Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Marc Rebillet

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

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Yeah. Hey, what up, Andrew? How you doing, baby? Cheers. Cheers to you. You're drinking a beer. I am. I'm drinking a whiskey. I'm having a little, what am I having?

A true love Mexican style lager. Ooh, true love. Chin chin. Where'd you get that from? I get it from, I actually just ordered yesterday this service called Tap Room and they'll just deliver you like 18 random beers that they like to your door, cold, ready to drink. It's a dream come true. Yeah, it's an app. Oh, that's awesome. Tap Room. All right. I'm going to check. I'm going to have to check.

But is it only beer? That's this week's sponsor, by the way. I'm just throwing you that. Tap Room. This show is brought to you by Tap Room. Drink it up. Are you a child? It doesn't matter. You have access to the internet border.

Yeah, they don't check your IDs. I notice that. When I get booze delivered, they never check IDs. They don't care at all. I didn't even make contact with the dude. I pressed, yes, I'm 21 on the website. They drop it off in the elevator. I could be 12.

Yeah, that's great, though. It's beautiful. See, that's, dude, I was talking to somebody about that the other day, how I went and ordered Thai food. And the Thai food place, because of what's going on, was like, you know, we're giving away huge discounts on booze because no one's coming in and drinking alcohol. And they were like, we're, we're allowed to sell booze, um, to go, but we're doing it at discounted rates. And it has to be, you know, it has to be like the full bottle of sake. So I was like, all right. Uh, you know, what's she was like, it's 35, 35 to 45% off. I was like, shit, give me two bottles. I'll take it. But of course the kid that brought it out to me was like 16. It was like the son,

you know, it's like always at a Thai restaurant. It's like the, the, the grandpa, the mom, the dad, the kid,

yeah, the entire family, a neighbor, you know, the kid's best friend. And he, it's like 16 year old kid brought it out to me and he just handed it to me and he's like, okay,

thanks. And he ran away. And I was like, they're just, they, anybody could have taken this. Like not only like not only could it not have been my order but it also could have been just somebody could have stolen booze right and a young if i was in high school right now during the pandemic i'd be ordering so much

alcohol to the house oh my god they have it so much so good now dude it's so so like when we were kids like how old are you now i'm 31 now yeah when like we still had did you play hey mister when you were a kid no what was that do you know what that is no hey there's a different bunch of different names for it hey mister is when you go outside a liquor store a 7-eleven or a grocery store and you and you ask a guy oh yeah to go in and help you out he's like in his 40s sometimes 50s and he looks divorced and he looks like he's had it you know what i mean like he's been through a lot of shit and you're and hey mister is hey mister would you mind buying me my friends a case of beer

because it was funny when you couldn't ask for alcohol as a kid because that's a little too right it's too rough you have to be more specific but, yeah, a case of beer is like, I can, it's okay to buy a kid a case of beer. It'd be hard to buy, for me too, like I wouldn't buy a kid a bottle of booze. I'd be like, I don't know kid. Yeah. But I'd give him, I'd buy a kid a case of beer. Probably some beer, I don't see that. And you know, that's the

thing, you're right, you gotta find the, and I, by the way, I didn't know that that's what the game was called, but I played it a lot. In Chicago, where I'm from, it was called Hey Mister, I don't know that that's what the game was called, but I played it a lot. In Chicago, where I'm from, it was called Hey, Mister. I don't know what it is. What did you guys say? What did you guys say when you were going to go do that? There was no script.

And like 99% of the time, it didn't work because I've always looked like seven years younger than I am. I don't know if that's catching up with me now but um yeah dude it was you just have to find the right person you said like exactly like you said the right kind of miserable to where they're like totally up for buying small children alcohol yeah yeah you can feel it when they get out of their buick le sabre you can feel it radiating from their chest just they're like i'll buy this kid booze fuck it yeah what do i care um all right let me jump backwards a little bit uh so for people that don't know who you are a uh you're a fool for not knowing uh and be welcome to the wonderful world that is mark rubia you are a

musician uh uh a dancer let me just fill in the blanks here. A dancer is really, that's generous. A musician, dancer, a, I would say comedic personality. I go back and forth with this stuff. Being a stand-up, I get in arguments with people all the time when people use the phrase comedian, but I would argue you are a comedian

because you make comedic content and you're also a musician. Do you disagree? Do you not say you're a comedian? Well, that's very sweet. I don't know. Yeah. It's, I don't really know how to package myself. I've had a lot of trouble with that because I get asked what, what, what this is or what the label is. And it's, it's, I just maybe one man show, one man, idiot, you know, one man, one man, idiot, one man, piece of shit. I'm just one man show, one man idiot. Yeah, one man idiot. One man piece of shit.

Just one package. Can that be the name of your album? Your next album is One Man Piece of Shit? Guys, look out. I'm dropping this new mixtape on Dat Piff. It's called One Man Piece of Shit. Dude, so do you put a lot of stuff out on Dat Piff, by the way? Do you ever put anything out on there?

I don't. I think like maybe a decade ago, I put old shit I was working on out there. But I don't even, are they around anymore? I think the app is still around. I like it because you can find weird, I still have it, because you can find weird, kind of this subterraneous, strange, I fall into little wormholes of music on Dat Piff sometimes. And that you can't find it anywhere else. It doesn't exist. It's kind of like Bandcamp does that as well, because it's just like a public marketplace.

No curation. There's no one looking at what's being uploaded. So it's just like anything goes. It's great. Yeah, it's beautiful. That was kind of the origination of what YouTube tried to do. You know, they tried to be this like kind of algorithm-free, hands-off, user-generated content creator. But unfortunately, as you know, I mean, you're in the YouTube space because all your shows, a lot of your live shows you put up on YouTube as well as performances from your house. I do. But they've started to put their fingers all over everything. And it's, is it like messing

with you? Have you felt that at all? Um, I mean, I don't really mess too much with the like corporate structure of that place. It's really like, to me, it's, it's, it's nothing more than a way for me to communicate with people that are watching and at like a distribution platform, you know, like it's, it's a place for me to upload my shit and like connect with the people watching it. But there's a dude,

you're right. It's like a fucking television station. It's a network. It is a network now. I mean, it is, it is a huge branding deals and multimillion dollar partnerships. And it's,

it's fucking insane. Yeah. And I also, well, what I don't like is I think that they've started to become overtly regulatory and they can blame it on the robots, which that's my biggest problem is they're like, oh, we run this through an algorithm. It's not us. And things get pulled because of the computer.

And you're like, sure, you can blame it on that. But I feel it more now that they've started to demonetize or they've started to shield or remove videos that they really don't look into they just kind of either the either who you usually upload with or who you're who your um associated uh acts are so to speak like view viewers also watch this and they kind of keep a close eye on this stuff i know i sound very conspiracy conspiracy theory no no i think you're absolutely i've heard it from a lot of big creators on on the website and people who have like direct contact with you know higher ups at youtube and people in the that that's absolutely true they just you know it's a lot like i got a rude awakening on twitch because i tried to do one of my streams there a little while back and my account got suspended like halfway through.

So I took my clothes off, which is something I do pretty much every show. They're not down with nipples, but like their moderation team is so trigger happy that like they just, you know, it's like and i think it's the same thing with youtube they just enforce their shit many times without thinking and then they sort of like you said just blame it on the on the algorithm which is yeah that's what yeah it's bullshit i don't well i don't like it because i like youtube like we use we upload the show on youtube and i like what they do yeah as far as as far as like creating this great playlist and this great network that you can use but they've been so um they removed they removed a couple of videos of, of ours in the past for different reasons. Yeah. And it was like, uh, you know, it is what it is, but the, but it's just, it just has started to feel more and more like the fucking, the deep state is, is watching, you know, like they're, they're hawking over it's like i feel like i'm in that you know i'm in that entering that era where um youtube is going to slowly become disney yeah right it's just gonna be where you can't say anything at all unless they put you in a separate category and x-rated

you know like you're going to become this nc-17 category of youtube no one watches and no it's like it's over there. Yeah. Well, it's like when they try to do... It's funny though to talk about... I mean, it's true like it is something really sinister, but we're talking

at the end of the day about like vlogs and fucking exercise videos. True. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. Yeah, it's stupid. It's you getting naked is what it really is.

That's it really is. It's like it's not that important at the end of the day. Well, so you get... So check this out. For people, people need to watch your videos now, and we'll put the links so you can watch a lot of the stuff that Mark does. But you get naked, you get naked down to the undies, down to

the skibbies, go down to your skibbies. And you do it at live shows, but you never show you never show genitalia. I don't ever pull the pee-pee out. Yeah, I don't do the pee-pee. I think that's just taking it a step too far.

That's Paul Rubens in a movie theater. That's not... I don't want to go there. Hey, don't tarnish Pee Wee Herman, dude. First of all, it was in a porno theater, wasn't it? No, you're right. It was. It was in an adult theater.

How could that be a thing that someone's like, he jerked off in an adult movie? Who goes and just watches a movie? Who would sit in a porno theater and just watch a porno? Of course you're gonna jerk off. He should have been more discreet. Yeah, he should have been more discreet. Yeah, put his dick in the popcorn bucket and tug through there no but it's appreciating the filmmaking and

watching it stoically for 90 minutes could you imagine yeah a film student at nyu goes to watch porno movies just to take in color correction and sound and editing of a porno i found it quite derivative honestly i have to say just a fucking douchebag about porn it was it was it was a little bit reminiscent of ass and titties four and i know this is it's yeah that's the predecessor i just think it could have been it could have been better that's all i'm saying could have been tighter yeah that's that's all that's all i'm saying when you get when you get naked during the live shows, let me ask you this. Are you a single man? I am very much a single man. I'm a single man.

Do you find that amplifies the... Because you put out this sexual vibe. Like, look, I'm not a gay man, but I got to tell you, some of your videos, they get big red running, okay? It gets real sexy, real hot, real fast. You know, neither am I. You're in great shape. Yeah. You're in great shape and you get naked. You have to up the, that ups the sexual meter when you go to their show. So afterwards, are you getting a lot of friendly people coming up to you to say hi? You know what

I'm talking about. There's a few friendly characters here and there coming to say hello but yeah dude i mean it was really initially it didn't start that way at all i mean like it started in a i mean my shit has always been very absurd and crude um but it was more in that camp. And then as I started like touring, I would find myself like wearing hotel bathrobes on stage. And then that sort of morphed into this like burlesque thing where it's just robes are like begging to be taken off. You know, it's like you pull one thing and then that's it. Like the whole thing just fucking falls off.

So it, it just it sort of followed from that that the robe needed to come off people started coming to shows in the robes and then really now it's sort of this thing where like halfway through the show or at some point in the show the robe comes off and i have uh i guess i don't, like relaxed into it. And and yeah, dude, it's I don't know why it's become so sexual, but it has. And yeah, it's I enjoy I enjoy doing that. I enjoy making the show feel that way. And people tend to enjoy it, too. I guess I'm sure it makes some people uncomfortable. But what what what the fuck are you doing at my show? You know, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They knew what they were getting into. There are people that show up to shows, people that show up to shows and they're like, oh, I had no idea. It's like, did you not? Did you not check me out before buying a ticket? Anything. How the fuck did you not know? Yeah. How did you not know? So that's so strange. It's like when somebody comes to a comedy show

and they're like oh it was too much for me it was just he was vulgar or he was crass or i didn't like his his angle of the way it's like what the fuck you did you just show up to show up like you don't know what you're getting into and people do sometimes you know like friends of friends they they yeah they do just show up and they end up getting their, you know, their minds being blown for better or for worse. Like, just like, what the fuck is this? Which is fine. I think it's for better. You know, that's, that's okay. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's always for better because if they, even if they don't, even if they don't like your shit, at least they get exposed to something unique. You know what I mean? Something different than what they're used

to, you know? Cause inherently you're, you're different. You are, you know, i mean something different than what they're used to you know because that's true you're you're different you are you know and i'm not stepping out of bounds and i'm not you're you're so different than what most people are used to you're very unique from what i know research wise and i'm very ignorant to the music scene i love music uh i don't know how to compose it or make any of it but you use this beautiful looping machine that you make your own beats and hooks and loops through the machine. And you use a keyboard and a drum machine, right? And is that it? Or do you use other stuff too? Yeah, that's it. It's my laptop, which has all the sounds I use. And i can just sort of pick and choose from drum kits that i've put together and synth sounds and bass samples and keyboard

sounds and all of that and um and then my looper which is really my my best friend it's just this fucking amazing simple pretty simple piece of equipment and you know there's drum pads to the left of the keyboard and that's it. So I play the drums on the drum pads. I play everything else on the keys. And then I, you know, I, I sing stupid shit into the microphone and sort of layer that all up in the looper. Are you a, um, are you a beauty school dropout? Did you go to music school and then drop out like so many, uh, so many musicians have done before? Did you do that? I went to acting school, actually. My whole career path in the beginning and middle of my childhood and adolescence and everything was acting, but I had also been playing piano since

I was five. Piano was always a big part of my life. Acting was a bigger part of my life. And then when I dropped out of acting school, I think after my freshman year, I just dropped out and and then started trying to like 10 years fumbling around on that shit and like you know learning the ins and outs and taking more private lessons for the piano getting more into like jazz theory and then combining that with production but nothing ever you know nothing ever hit uh i you know was just working random jobs for like a decade plus and you know trying trying to do the music thing on the side like all of us well did you have did you have a do you or did you have that that bug that you wanted to act and is that still there or was that kind of a past tense thing you're like i don't want to do that shit anymore it went away when i when i dropped out because i just sort of like fell out of love with like theater culture I guess you know everyone always

trying to it's this thing of everyone is in character all the fucking time I don't know if you get that in like the stand up world or like it's this thing where which can be fun like it's fun to hang around people who are like on

and challenging each other and like you know riffing and all that but when it's all the goddamn time it's fucking exhausting dude oh yeah it's just fucking exhausting like people can't be themselves they're the it's you don't feel like you're ever talking to a real human being i don't know i just got fucking tired of it um no yeah so yeah I I dropped out of that but now it's sort of come back yeah like I I would love to sort of nudge my way back into the entertainment world in some degree I'm like I'm I'm trying to work on that in some different capacities but uh yeah dude it was just the culture of it it was just like the whole just

the vibe of it that really turned me off you know and musicians i tend to find are like much more comfortable just in their own skin generally just fucking shooting the shit you know right do you now are you are you collaborating with other musicians uh most of the stuff i see that you put out is all you on your own from your apartment which is intimate and funny and sexy and very private, which I think is why it's so successful online. Cause it's like, we're getting a look into your real world. And also it's extremely, um, unfiltered. There is no, it's not like, let me set up this shot to make sure that this, it's just like watching you. It's as if I watched

you wake up, you jerked off, you ate a piece of toast, and then you started playing music and I got to watch it. That's what it feels like. That is very often exactly what happens. It feels like I just saw you go through your day. It's just like I see you wake up, I see you wipe off the cum, and I see you hit the fucking keys and just start wailing. That's what it feels like. That's pretty much it, dude. The cum is in the garbage and I see you hit the fucking keys and just start wailing. That's what it feels like. That's pretty much it, dude. The cum is in the garbage and I'm just trying to make some stupid shit.

I think we got and we got your second album is called The Cum is in the Garbage. The first one is one man piece of shit. The second one is The Cum is in the Garbage. I mean, these will do very well. You know, the algorithm is going to love those. They're going to crush. Yeah. Well, let me let me ask this you you're um

you you are you said it in in you said crass or uh you know you're what you put out is what i think is fucking brilliant is it's just raw and fun and you don't really edit what you're going to say and when you get into a groove like when you're when you're in that. Was it in Austin, Texas, when you were in that one bar? Oh, that restaurant. I've seen a few times. Restaurant. Oh, man, I used to play there all the time in Dallas. That's where I originally. Yeah, that's where I started playing.

And I had like three residencies at three different restaurants and bars. And that was one of them. And and they would let me film and live stream from there. And they would have me play to like their lunch crowd, which was so funny. Amazing. So funny. Amazing. It was amazing.

Watching someone eat like a turkey sandwich and hear you in the background being like, sucking on your titties, sucking on your titties. It was just so, it's so great that it resonates because you're very raw. So do you, in that regard, do you catch a lot of shit sometimes when you would go to places like that? Would people get mad and tell staff, they're like, I'm not comfortable with this and I don't like what he's saying and all that? because most people that went to these places were pretty cool. And then after the first few months, people sort of caught on that I was playing at these places every week. So then the audience started growing. But for those first few months, there was really this beautiful friction,

this beautiful conflict that I fed off of and really would love to capture again in some way, which is people seeing me who have no clue, who don't necessarily want to see me, who aren't there to see me. There's something really lovely there. And I'm trying to capture it somehow. Again, I'm, I'm thinking of a few ways to do that and working on a few ideas for that, but yeah, it was, it was just that dude, just like playing in the middle of the goddamn afternoon for like families and you can't write that. You ever had, uh, no dude. Have you, and I know what you mean by recreating those moments in life. Comedy is kind of the same way, except with yours. Music has this ability that even when people are in a bad mood or they don't want something or they're like, what the fuck is going on? If it's good and you're quite fucking good, it can just change their mood.

Like it can shift them from going, I didn't really expect this or want this, but this is kind of making my day versus when we when we start and we have to do stand-up and we're doing it at a bar yeah that's you know 6 30 these people don't want to see you they don't want to hear you tell fucking jokes you're usually new so you're bad and like the that the the that what happens to that transference of being annoyed to being happy to hear music it never happens in comedy it's always like, why is this fucking asshole? Oh, never, dude, never. They hate it.

I mean, because music does, I am a massive, massive music fan. It's in every part of my life. It's the moment I wake up, it's playing in my house till when we go to bed. It's always been such an integral part of my life. I'm obsessed with finding new shit. And there's so many moments in my life that are defined by, I stumbled into this place and I saw this band or I heard this thing and it made some of my most memorable moments. is those kind of accidental, free, risky, weird, uncomfortable moments that kind of can grow into something beautiful

versus when you play a theater sold out to fans, they're there to see you. It's kind of like they know what's coming, so to speak. It's beautiful, but you don't get that. As much improv as you do when you're on stage, you just don't get that moment of, holy shit shit this is out of nowhere type of stuff because the danger level gets lower as you get more popular it

totally totally it's very different i mean it's two totally different things yeah i think like i do love the feeling of playing to a fucking packed venue you know that that's it's but but like you say it's completely distinct it's like it's just a totally different thing everyone is there because they know that they're there to see you they're there to support you they're excited and all and that energy is awesome completely different from like what the fuck are you doing here you know like that's yeah it's a totally and it it affects the performance it changes the nature of the performance. It changes the ideas that you think of because when you're trying to convince someone to like you, it's different than playing to a crowd you already know is, you know, enthusiastic. Yeah, dude, I don't know. From a performance standpoint, you're absolutely right. It's like wildly different, but I do love them both very much, but I miss the other shit. I definitely

miss the other shit. Totally. Yeah. That's the bane of an artist is you always want to grow. You want an audience to come along with you on this ride. You want to get a fan base that supports you that you can kind of feel this. That's what we dream of. Right. And sometimes you look back and you're like, but I also like it when, you know, when somebody was offended by me and walked out.

Like, they're like, they're great. You're making me think of it because like, but the thing is, it's, we appreciate that so much in retrospect, like more than we did when it was happening. But I think part of that is because now there's like a certain comfort level in knowing that, okay, there is an established fan base of some sort. There are people that are willing to support me. I can make a living doing this. And so when you look back,

it's like, oh man, that was really fucking special. But yeah, I wish I could go back to that knowing what I know now, you know, cause that would make me appreciate it so much more back then. I'm fucking nervous. I'm scared as shit. I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep doing this. It sucks. And you're like just trying to get out of it. Right. But but yeah, dude, fucking, you know, hindsight, 2020, all that shit. Exactly. Well, do you do you ever have stories from those old days when you were doing shows? Did you ever get would you ever take off your clothes and get naked or close to naked? Did someone else reciprocate? Do you ever have a guy or a girl in the crowd get naked with you? That's happened more recently. Um, like back when I was doing the restaurant and

bar shows, I, I wasn't getting naked yet. That wasn't like a part of the show. Um, but I would do, you know, there was still, everything has always been improvised from, from the beginning to the end. And so I would count a lot on like the people in the room to give me material and like someone came up to me at at one of the restaurants and asked me to do something hard he was like I want you to do something hardcore so I went into this like sometimes I'll do these two character pieces where like you know like I'll pitch my voice up for one character and pitch it down for the other and have a conversation yeah and it was like two parents and they're they're like kid drowned and then they sacrifice the child to satan and all this shit and you can see because i filmed this show but this family is

like it's like watching this happen and cool just really not about it and gets up and leaves in the middle of this thing and they're just like shaking their head um but clothes coming off happens it it definitely happens now when i played the show in bordeaux like on this fucking boat the bottom of this boat and uh and it was a cool venue but like um yeah towards the end of the show, this chick just came up and got completely naked and just fucking dead. The security's trying to grab her, but it's like people are- You're like, no, leave her. Leave her. She's fine.

She's fine. Let her be. Let her be. Let her be her own person. Yeah, but it's fun, dude. People are like, I'm down with that. Do I invite people? Like at the end of a lot of these shows, I'll sort of, depending on whether or not security is cool with it, I'll invite people to get up on stage.

So we'll have like, you know, there's however many people the stage can hold, really. We've had like 100 to 150 people up on stage with me, just like buckling the stage and getting the fuck down and i just man i love that shit i miss that shit that's the best man well dude me too i know we miss touring we i miss performing so much we're we're gonna get back there because people do want to get back on the stage and get naked and rub their uh their sweaty bodies against you man how are you taking that i mean how are you like taking not being

on the road? I think, you know, a lot of comics have probably, we've all talked about it ad nauseum of like, we're all tired, we all want to go. But, you know, to be honest, my perspective has shifted the past week of like, maybe

this is a good thing and it's going to help me recalibrate and I was mad that my tour got canceled and we had to reschedule, but you know, maybe this is, maybe I just need to take it in stride as look, I'm, I'm healthy. We're, we're making it through this thing. And then hopefully on the other side, I'll come out stronger. Cause I'm working on writing a bunch of shit in the meantime. It's going to be hard because I don't have time to test it out. You know, that's, what's fucked up is like, you know, usually we get to go to what we call the gym or the comedy club at night and, and work out and work out and work out. And then when we go

and put it out there, it's more polished. But, um, I think that's going to be, to me, that's going to be that, that thing that we talked about was going back to the days when the material is much more uncertain and the crowds, you know, we're also uncertain because back then they didn't know you, but now that that they know you but i'm trying out more new shit because of this gap time yeah um it's gonna be it's gonna be sexy again it's gonna be a little bit the water's gonna be way more rough for sure dude you know that's interesting you say that though because like the the i didn't think about that but you're absolutely right that like a crucial part of stand-up is is like i didn't i've never heard

that before going to the gym i love that but that's a crucial part of it is like testing your shit out and getting your set like down and polished and sharpened and and you just like you cannot do that right now no we're no and it's fine to be bridled like it's i think i think like anything like any kind of performance art or whatever, some of the best stuff is going to grow out of some of the biggest restrictions. That tends to be the history of our business anyway. It's like when you couldn't do shit,

great shit came about from it anyway. So my hope is people are going to come out stronger. Shitty people who aren't good are going to get washed away because they're not working. So, you know, there's something good about you know this is really um a testament to uh you know fucking strong will survive in terms of who's who's really working on their shit and when it comes time and comes back let's see what you deliver you know dude i yeah i agree a hundred percent like that's that's the mindset that I've been trying to adopt too.

It's an opportunity to become wildly more creative than we were because now we are forced to. There's no option but to try and find ways to keep the business viable and successful and continue to find ways to like reach your audience and and do things that but but we're so constricted we don't have access to like half or over half of our business or whatever the fuck it is so i don't know man i've been yeah i've been busting my fucking ass, like probably more than I was before. And, uh, but that's, I think that's such a good thing that, that, that I think that's going to make, that's going to make some great shit on the other side.

Like, have, have you, um, have you gotten to a point because now you're quite, you know, look, you're very successful in terms of your, your growth online is incredible. Like you have, uh, like, you know what, 700,000 followers on YouTube that watch your videos. It's like, and you have millions and millions of people that watch your shit. Have you gotten to this point now where, where it's, well, it's deserved, dude. It's great. Have you gotten to this point where corporate people have asked you to do like corporate parties and shit like that? Have you done those? Yeah, I've got, I mean, I'm looking at a bunch of, you know, there's like a whole bunch of things that me and my my team are looking at.

But it's like a bunch of brand partnerships and yeah, corporate opportunities. But there's a lot of them that are just not that I would never do in a million fucking years because it's like it they they want to cripple you, you know, from doing what it is you usually do and like of course even if the money is there it's not you know i i have no interest in doing some like pg shit um yeah for a brand that like wants me not to say shit and like that's just not it's not what i do it's not what i've ever done why would i do that now so yeah, I, I am, I am getting those kinds of offers, but it's, I'm also getting offers where people just want, you know, they just attach yourself to what they're already doing. And like, yeah, that's, then you're cool. Then you're a cool brand or you're a cool guy, you know? So, um, yeah, I'm, I'm working on shit like that, but it's weird navigating that landscape. Cause I've never done stuff like that before. I've never done any sort of like corporate partnering. So you've never,

have you, have you ever played a corporate live show? Have you ever done a show for a corporate? No. I hear they're amazing though. Yeah, they're incredible. They'll make you feel really good about yourself. The whole time that you're up there performing for some evil company like Monsanto, you're just circling your head like,

am I the worst person on fucking Earth? Did you do a little Monsanto set? No. No, no, no. Yeah, my first joke was, fuck the earth. I was like, fuck the earth, and everybody lost it. Everyone, yeah! Yeah!

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Back to the episode. I like gingers. No, I've never, I've done a bunch of, comedians have to do corporate gigs corporate gigs, um, uh, at some point in your career, cause they do pay remarkably well. And it's just a thing to do. Um, I have shied away from doing them in, in this latter part of my career because, uh, because of that very thing, I don't, you know, whenever they say like, can you do a clean and my agents like he does, he does what he does. Right.

And you either get, you either get that or you get nothing. It's just there is no compromise. But when you're young and you need the money, yeah, man, of course, I would fucking go. I would do holiday parties, you know, and some rich schmuck would be like, I'll give you a bunch of money to come like roast me and my buddies and, you know, to do stand up. And you would inevitably do stand up and roast some of their friends. And it would probably go OK, you know, and you would inevitably do stand up and roast some of their friends and it would

probably go okay you know and you'd kind of feel dirty but you walk out with a check and you just go home and you're like whatever right yeah dude that's totally yeah i i used to do a lot of sort of one-off gigs like that as well that were for like birthday parties or whatever you know just show up and play and and yeah dude it's like it's a fucking job it's a job it's a job and now i mean we're very very lucky to be in this position where we can like edit our career a little more and you know like pick and choose and that's right that's amazing i i i never expected to be in that position ever but um but yeah dude totally anything and everything back in the day like anything i'll fucking do it yeah i'll do it no shame there's no shame when you're in picking up a check and i i

never i never uh i never wag a finger at anybody who's just trying to pick up a check me neither that a lot of people that people don't understand a lot of people don't get it that like it's an extremely hard job and it's a job at the end of the day and a lot of people don't get it that like it's an extremely hard job and it's a job at the end of the day and a lot of times you just need to fucking make rent or make bills or keep things moving and it just helps dude i think people don't realize that when you when they work in a regular world it's like you're guaranteed a check you know we're never guaranteed check so when you go do one of these corporate things even though it's fucking painful you know like i did one um dude i did i did a christmas one like five or six years

ago christmas and uh oh dude it was so bad it was a christmas it was their christmas dinner and it was about 35 40 employees and i am i'm ripping i'm having a great set i'm talking shit i'm making fun of the guy that booked me who inevitably there's always one guy that works the company that's a massive comedy fan and he goes to the comedy store and you know what I mean? Like he, so he wants to be the introduction to the company of standup. He's like, you guys are going to love this. And this is always how it goes. So he brings me in and I start shitting on him and they're loving it, you know? Cause like everyone, this guy is obviously already annoying to them. So I'm shitting and shitting and shitting on him and uh you know then he's like uh talk

shit about dan you know i'd talk shit about some guy named dan it's fucking just just just just by appearance alone these people yeah yeah and then and then some guy some obviously executive older dude uh really like a handsome looking super tan skin with a young bimbo. And he's like, why don't you say something about me? You know? And I'm like, nah, nah, you know, you probably own this fucking thing. And everyone's like, oh, he does. You know? And, and, and the guy's like, no, come on, come on. So of course I start laying into this guy because he wants it. And I'm already, I've already got the check in my pocket. So I'm just eating this guy alive about how sad it is that this woman

is going to get you know his entire life force of work of money in about two to three months when he inevitably dies and you know just just diving into this that you know what is so obvious and his face was just like fuck you i mean dude he was so mad. But I kept going. I didn't stop. I was like, hey, dude, I'm already... You don't quit the marathon. You know what I mean? You're on a fucking roll, dude. Yeah, well, I already ran 24 of the miles. I'm going to finish.

So I just kept shitting on this guy and shitting on him. And when I was done, which is I just walked off, because people were like, oh, and it was uncomfortable. The guy who booked me came up to me and he's like, hey uh i just i don't think you should have done that to the boss and i was like yeah man i just you know like you that you guys that's what you asked for this thing it's gonna be this thing right he was like yeah i just i don't know if that was a good idea i'm like well i don't have to stay here and you do so later i just never saw the guy again just took his check i fucked off into the night dude you know there is. That's what they get.

Totally. There is a weird thing, though, that I haven't thought about for a while because I haven't done a gig like that in a while. It's like this energy that you, like, for a small period of time, you're part of the party. But as soon as you, like, on either side of your set you're a fucking stranger like you you might as well be a fucking waiter like it's it's it's like it's you're a worker that's there to work and then you get on stage or wherever they put you in the fucking corner somewhere

and and you're the focal point and then when it's over, it's just, you're anybody, you know, it's weird. You're just another guy in the room. Yeah. It is.

So when you start to, when you grow exponentially, I hope you get to do the most uncomfortable version, which I've never been privy to, but I have comic friends that get paid obscene amounts of money to go to like a very

private party of like 10 very famous people like very high-end celebrities oh really and they get to go yes dude and that i don't ever want to do it but i hope you get to do it because again music can always kind of be this great barrier of of discomfort where you can just keep playing dude i would love to do that. That would be so... So wait, what would... Who would be your ultimate dream to play like a really private, weird party to? Who do you think would be there?

Oh, man. Dude, that is a fucking tough question. I would like a spread of really unusual celebrities. You know, that... Yes. Like... Jesus. spread of really unusual celebrities you know that uh yes like um jesus like joe montana very random all the joes joe pantoliano joe but yeah it's all the joes joe the italian joe it's just a Joe party, yeah. Pesci, Montagna, yeah.

Joe Montana is there. Wait, so what are those? Have you heard of it? What are those parts? I mean, what is that shit like? Well, you know, usually what it is is if a comic friend of mine, and it's not my liberty to say, but usually it's a comic friend who's extremely well established and they get invited to like

a private party dinner party thing or whatever very illuminati shit of extremely high end uh usually hollywood celebrity you know actors actresses whatever right and they they want them to kind of casually perform at dinner like not like they want it's almost like they pay them to kind of casually perform at dinner like not like they want it's almost like they pay them to be there they don't have to get on stage with a microphone but they pay for their they pay for their like comedic presence so to speak it's very rare yeah but it happens it's a thing that it's a real kind of creepy dude that's extremely creepy yes. But I imagine the amount of money is astronomical to just be around that thing. You know, I would imagine that I would. No, I not imagine.

I know I would fuck that. I would fuck that up. I would say the most fucked up shit on purpose, trying to just get a rise out of somebody. They'd get mad. They'd throw me out and they could smell that I'm not a part of their group. You know, it's almost like I say this all the time. Whenever I go to something really fancy, even though like I could afford to be there,

I always feel dirty. I always feel uncomfortable. Like they know I don't belong there. You know, like they can smell it on me. That's so fucking weird to me though that they would pay. It's not to play a set. It's like to be you in performance mode in this group

of really high end people. Well, it's because it's because most of the time celebrities in Hollywood, when they ascend to this level of like super fame, they become so out of touch with normalcy because they don't live, they don't get to go to concerts. They don't get to, they can't go to normal things anymore because they get so big. It almost, it's almost like they're, they're out of touch as an understatement. They're, they're in a vacuum. Fuck me till it hurts I'm a pretty little princess Fuck me

I'm a princess Fuck me I'm a princess Fuck me I'm a pretty little princess I want you to fuck me till it hurts, bitch. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Fuck me till it hurts.

Mark sneezed so hard that it, whatever what I was saying was so boring, it was like, sneezed out the fucking bullshit. Anyway, moving away from the Illuminati, lizard people, celebrities and all that bullshit, getting away from how creepy that world is. It's so creepy. So let me ask you this.

Living in New York, I don't want to mention any of the nonsense that's going on right now because I think, again, another thing we've talked to ad nauseum. Yeah, agreed. When you moved to New York, did you start doing music from your apartment and putting it up online as a necessity or something that you knew you wanted to do?

Was it kind of like, you know, was that a plan that you were like, I want to make music in the house and put it out? Or was it like, you're not going to go to a studio and all that stuff? Yeah. This was just... Yeah, I mean, it was very much... I had already been putting out videos like that in my apartment alone for, I guess, a year or two before that. But my audience still at the time was very, very small.

But my audience still at the time was very, very small. I mean, I had established, again, very small local following in Dallas. But then I decided to move to New York to try and bring it to a bigger market to see if I could actually book a show here and all that kind of shit. I had no connections. I had no idea of how that was going to work. I didn't know what kind of venue would hire me. I imagined I would just try and strong arm bars into hiring me again. And that's what I did for a couple months was just like, just walk around and bother people, like bother bartenders for like owners numbers and emails and shit. And, you know, owners numbers and emails and shit. And, um, you know, booked a good handful of gigs in bars. Um,

and then, and at the same time I was doing that, I was recording videos in my apartment as I had already been doing and putting that out on like all of my different channels and shit. And just nothing was really, I mean, I was getting paid, you know, like 150 bucks a gig to play, you know, just to play a bar from like seven to 9 PM, same shit. Um, but definitely less reliable up here because there was no, there was no residency going on. I didn't, you know, I, I didn't have the base that I had in Dallas. So it was I was getting really close to like calling it and just saying like, fuck it, because I just I couldn't really see an end point. around the videos that I had already put up on Facebook and I guess on YouTube as well. But something happened there like in, I guess it's like August or September, something of 2018 that it took me from like, you know, like 5,000 followers to like 100, 200, 300,000. And like, 100, 200, 300,000. And like, it was that shift that then got me booking requests

from people in other states and then other countries. And I had no fucking clue what to do with that. So then a booking agent approached me and I signed with a booking agency and then bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. But if that hadn't happened, yeah, I probably would have just,

I don't know, dude. I probably would have just, I don't know, dude, I probably would have quit. I probably would have quit. Yeah. You know, that was, that's so funny how like when you're kind of back against the wall,

like the thing that, that, that the catalyst was just, it was honestly, it was just your library of work. At some point it caught up to you, which is a, that's kind of amazing.

You know, like it just, it did what it was supposed to do. Yes, exactly. It was supposed to do. It did. Eventually it got there

that's the thing is like i that that's something that i that i say to like you know there's a bunch of people who are trying to like create stuff online and they they they asked me about this kind of stuff and what i always say is just like you just make the shit just make the shit. Just make the shit and never stop making the shit. If it's good, it'll get circulated somehow. I don't know how that works. Somehow. I have no fucking idea how that works. But yeah, I think it's because there was already a large library of shit.

So when people started sharing stuff, there was like a little rabbit hole to go down, you know, where people could find out that, you know, like there was this catalog, this like back catalog that kept people interested. You know, if you only have like a few videos up, I don't, I don't know if that would have happened. Um, right. Well, I mean that, I think that's, that, that's, that's kind of the beauty is also now that people find you as you continue on, you have so much shit that they can go back and go, oh shit. And look at this. Oh, and look at this and look at this and look at this. You know what I mean? That's kind of the beauty of putting more stuff out. It's also, it's also hard because you want to make sure whatever you're putting out, I imagine you seem to be very particular. You want to make sure it's extremely representative of your abilities too you know like for sure just putting it out to put it out it's a hard balance and when people are like oh just when people like put up your stand-up or just put up more music and you're like i want to make sure it's shit that i want to put out at the same time absolutely you know i you know you want content but you want it to be quality you want you want some kind of, yeah, for sure. But it's like at the beginning, you know, I have friends who are trying to do this,

who are like trying to get to, you know, be in entertainment and do this thing. And it's like at the beginning, it's like no one gives a shit. No one is watching you. gives a shit no one is watching you so it's the exercise of actually doing it that is more important even than the quality of it i think you know like it's if you don't get yourself used to and in the habit of like producing shit and publishing it then you no one will ever see you it's i just find that a lot of people who have not, who have not done that, they're very much hung up on like, well, this isn't quite good enough, or I don't know if like, this is the direction I was, I want to go. And it's like, dude,

no one gives a fuck about your direction. No one cares because no one knows you. So like, just do the shit, just work the muscle, work the muscle just make the bullshit work the muscle you know like we said go to the gym that's what it is like you just got to keep going to the gym over and over and over until you know until you're finally strong enough that when they come see you they're like wow and everyone's like it looks like it's just so easy you know it's like yeah what you do looks so fun and simple that i'm sure you know there's a million idiots that want to buy a looping machine because of you and and that's a good thing to just, you know, it's nice to expand your fucking, uh, you know, to expand your, uh, your, your talent and see if people, that's something

they're interested in. But it's funny to think that a lot of times people just go, it looks so easy, but it, well, it's because there's so much work that's put into it to make it look easy as the, is the word that they use but it really just looks smooth and like almost flawless and without any kind of you know without any bumps so it's it's all the work that you put in all this time that you've been doing it have your parents been gung ho about it are they have they been supportive and been like this is great or did mom hear it and was like i don't know about the titties and the wet pussy stuff yeah mom was definitely not a fan of the wet pussy stuff and i think still is not um but you know like she warmed up to it she wouldn't know she uh no she's like a

gentle sweet wonderful woman that is like you know very much not about that kind of humor um which is fine it's just not her thing but like it it took a while to to win her over you know just by continuing to do it and then like getting paid for it and then all that shit you know has helped helped her understand that at least there was something something there um and you know now i've made a lot of stuff that's family friendly and whatever is like positive and shit. And she enjoys that stuff. And my, but my dad, you know, if, if you knew my dad, you, you, you would understand why I am this way, but he, he passed away a couple of years ago, but he, um, he like extremely French, Parisian dude, filthy, vulgar,

a flirt, a huge character, big energy. And like, he told me really until like he started going downhill, kept pushing me. I mean, he built like his whole life from nothing and all that shit. And so he was like, you need to be the one on stage. You need to get out there. You need to be performing. You need to be the one singing with the microphone and all that. And like, you know, back when we were having those conversations, I didn't want to do I just wanted to maybe like smoke bowls and like make beats and hang out with my friends and stuff. And he was like, you and, you know, at the end of the day, he was absolutely right. But yeah, he he he would have fucking loved this shit. And I'm sad he doesn't get to see it. But but yeah, my mom and I are like super close now. And she is super supportive. And she just doesn't watch the wet pussy shit you know just don't watch that shit mom well your dad your your dad was your dad in the entertainment industry at all was he in a was he involved in entertainment by any means or no no he was in

fashion he was in fashion um and oh nice yeah he but i mean he was very much like that kind of character i mean you know he he might as well have been in that industry he was just like this he was an extraordinary human being you know it was just this kind of person that commanded the energy of a room and was extraordinarily charming while also making people uncomfortable is striking that perfect balance and um right and french as fuck so he sort of got away with it you know it's like this french this old school french charm that allowed him that that breathing room and yeah those french dude they can they can get away with that he could say to a woman he'd be like oh your titties look nice and she's like oh my god oh they're not offended oh yeah dude

they love it they fucking love it so well did he so he moved did he move from paris to texas yeah was that no it wasn't to texas i mean he my mom met him when she was like on a trip with her girls in paris and then they met oh wow came back America to like South Carolina to get married. And then they had like a boutique in Atlanta. And then we, we lived in New Jersey and he worked in New York and Dallas and back and forth. And, um, so yeah, we were all over the place, but, uh, but yeah, I mean, you know, he, he was just extremely determined to a fault, obsessive to a fault, stubborn to a fault. But all of those like values that sort of like never, and I wasn't this kind of kid, but he would just hammer it into my, like never stop. Bang down the doors until you get something.

Keep going and all this shit. And it's all this stuff that like now I've found that I have grown into and basically like turned into him. It's fucking weird. You know, that's awesome. Yeah, it's nice, dude. That's fucking incredible. Did he have a mustache like you? He was a mustache.

He tried a mustache, but it didn't really work on him. He didn't. But he looked, oh my God. I don't know if you want to superimpose this, but I'll send you a picture of him. We look identical. And yeah, man, he's missed, but I'm just trying to do him justice out here. I'm sure he, I'm sure, you know, look, I don't know what people believe in and I know not to be cliche, but it's almost

like, uh, I gotta know that he feels it somehow, even though he's gone, there's no way he's not like, fuck. Yeah, that's my boy. Like you just gotta know that he's stoked to see you do this stuff, even though he's not here. There's just I I don't believe in I don't believe in eternal nothingness. I'm not one of those guys. I don't I don't I don't know if I don't know what exists, dude. I don't know what it is. Me neither. That's sort of where I'm at. I don't really know.

But I have a hard time thinking that it goes to nothing. I have a hard time. I just think that's a little it's a little too um nihilistic i i just don't i i i don't ever believe that everything means nothing i think that's very silly i think nihilism is such a um to me it's such like a moot fucking thing because you can't it's just as valid as it is invalid right like when somebody says i can't believe people believe in god or whatever it's like well it's just the same as you not believing in anything at all. It's the same. It's true. It's just on two different ends of a spectrum, right? You're just,

I used to tell this joke a long time ago that I never understood fully believing in something or fully not. It's almost like if I asked three guy friends how gay they are on a scale from zero to 100. Yeah. And if the first one says 100, and he goes, I am gay. I am nothing but gay. I'll never be anything but gay. Yeah. I would go, okay, that seems a little, it seems almost so perfectly associated that it's almost closed-minded.

Like, you just, that's it. And then another guy says i'm zero percent gay i'm like what it's like yeah no not even an inch in a bottom but if a third guy says i'm like 58 gay i'd go yeah i i have those moments i've been to a gym like i know exactly what he's talking about right so that that that's how i feel about a lot of stuff that like i'm always somewhere i like to touch both bases i can't believe in anything fully or not believe in anything at all across the board i feel like this has given me perspective um this pandemic has given me that even more so that perspective of

you can't just be one or the other that's that there's so many variables to to all of this shit that it's hard for me to believe that you could be all in on anything. It's like, you know, no, I agree. I think it's like, it's very much a matter of perspective. Like I, I always go back to that because at the, you know, no matter how much individual people believe certain things, how much they believe it, how little they believe it, whether they throw it away or they hate it or they love it. You always have to remember, or at least I do, I always try and remember that everyone is just processing this world and this life in a way that makes sense to them. Like everyone is just doing things with their brain

that try to bring them happiness or reassurance or comfort or satisfaction. And however that manifests itself is not really for you to like dismantle or throw down or disprove it's like it's not about that it's just about each person trying to find some sort of fucking comfort and happiness in this world so whether that's i don't believe in any of it if that brings you comfort fantastic believe in that shit if you want to believe in the Holy Trinity and God and the Father and the Holy God, great, dude. Great. I don't know why. We tend to take a lot of that shit very personally when it's like the furthest thing from that. It's about the person. It's just like about that person. Yeah. Everyone should walk around

with a shirt that says, this has nothing to do with you. I think that would justify all of it. It's a great piece of merch. This has nothing to do with you. I mean, and that extends to all levels of everything. And I'm not just talking about religion. Religion is just like a little piece of what I was talking about before. I mean, any sort of beliefs that you have or your perspective of life itself, it has nothing to do with anybody else. It's all on your bullshit, so figure it the fuck out. It has nothing to do with you. Yeah, it has nothing to do with you. That being said, I like picking things apart and talking about it, especially to people who

don't feel the same way about things as I do. I love that discourse and that friction and shit, but you have to, it's all, you just, you gotta keep that in mind because I feel like a lot of the shit that goes on in the world is a result of people not being able to understand that, you know, like a lot of the bad shit that happens in this world is a result of just a refusal to understand that people might have different points of view. Totally. Well, dude, you begin to learn. I mean, if there's anything, again, I don't love talking about it, but if there's anything the pandemic has definitely taught me, I still read the Chicago Tribune

every day because I miss Chicago and I just want to like know what's going on back home all the time. I'm every day. I've never stopped. And every day, even during the pandemic, you'll read some bullshit that you're like, people are still doing fucked up shit. Even during this time of like international crisis. Like it just it reassures me that like people don't give a fuck. People just don't care. People don't care.

They're going to do whatever they're going to fucking do. They don't give a shit. Like there's still, there was a story the other day about a massive money laundering scheme in some of the local outlets of government in Chicago, which is, that's nothing new. But it was like they're finding that these people are still learning new ways to like because i don't know if you've heard about this the new york times did an article about it as well there's so much dirty money in new york right now that can't be pushed and laundered internationally so it's they're trying to find a way to circulate it through the economy in new york through underground circuits because they can't it's just so great it's's like people- That's beautiful.

The world is on fire. People are dying, but criminals are like, hey, we don't stop. We don't stop. You understand me? We're still going to keep going. They have the best work ethic of all. Criminals will work through fucking anything. It's incredible.

Oh, hell yeah, dude. It just reminds me that people are going to do whatever the fuck they're gonna do people do whatever they want to do it doesn't matter like nobody it's hard to that's why i think it is what it is when i think about when other people whatever you want to believe or do it's like dude people are gonna do it whether or not you fucking like it or care so get over it that's right get the fuck over what yes Yes. It's fine. It's just fine. Yeah, you're fine.

We are grains of sand on this fucking rock. Nothing we ever do here will ever have an impact beyond the next 100,000 years. And this whole universe will continue to spin and operate with or without us. Just live your goddamn life and do things that bring you joy. Let's do that. That is a fact. Just do it. Enjoy it.

Have fun. And I hope in 100,000 years when the planet is decimated and they're searching down here for any remnants, they're they're searching down here for any remnants they somehow find a clip of you singing at that bar in houston and the family walking out i just want that to exist for whatever species is 100 000 years that's going to be the family getting up and leaving space that's right yes that's right that is right by the way that, that's an incredible story. I hope you're wrong. I hope you're wrong. No, I hope I'm right. That's a good story for people that don't know.

They sent, in the 70s, they sent a golden album to space, right? Isn't that what it was? And it had music on it. It had sounds. It had all sorts of stuff. And I would love to think somehow, someway, something would find it. But we know damn well it's fucking shattered somewhere in space. It doesn't exist anymore.

I'm sure it is. I wish something would find it. It just ran into an asteroid and it's fucking gone. But I think it's like the principle of the thing that's so beautiful. Oh, it's awesome. Sending out just in case to the long, dark, infinite beyond, you know, this series of signals that represent who and what we are. And like, just, I just love that, dude. I love that human effort. It's a beautiful thing. It is very cool. It is a, it is a cool idea.

It's message in a bottle. You know, like when you're a kid in your mind, you throw, you put a message bottle, you throw the bottle as far as you can. And in an hour and a half, it's, it's washed up on the beach, 50 yards down, right down. But in your mind, who cares? It got way out there. It ended up miles and miles and miles away. Someone on a boat found it. Yeah. You, you hope, you hope, but you know, it's, i think it's the idea of putting shit out and just trying which is kind of uh that's all we're doing anyway dude that's all we can do dude yeah there's no guidebook there's no fucking corporate style guide it's like let me try this and hopefully people like it or hopefully someone wants to pay me to do that and i don't know we're just farting our way through it you know yeah and

when it's over it's over dude i uh i hope when all this thing is done you'll be able to get back on on the road and tour people need to go see you um thanks man likewise i think you're uh i think you're very talented i hope when i come to new york when all this is done we can uh sit down and drink one and enjoy our time together oh let, let's definitely do that. I'd love that. That would be very nice, dude. So I end the episodes with a very, very big thank you to you. And I want you to look into the camera when I walk off and you got to say one word or one phrase, one word or one phrase that encapsulates whatever you want to encapsulate right now by yourself when I walk off. So go ahead. now by yourself when I walk off. So go ahead. Everything is okay. And nothing really matters all that much. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.

You're that creature in the ginger beer. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the whore. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.