Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Oliver Tree Explains It All! | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger a Wave series presented by Fanduel. Andrew Santino sits down with musician, performer, and all-around chaos generator Oliver Tree for a completely unpredictable conversation about music, identity, and committing to the bit at the highest level. They talk about Oliver’s new album, the evolution of his larger-than-life persona, and how blending comedy and music has helped him build one of the most unique careers in entertainment. This episode goes from thoughtful to ridiculous fast and never really comes back. 🎧 Check out Oliver Tree’s new album out now. In this episode:• The creative process behind Oliver’s latest album• Building a character vs being yourself• Santino and Oliver talk fame, performance, and internet culture• Why going all-in is the only strategy that works Drop a comment with your favorite Oliver Tree track. #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #OliverTree #NewMusic #ComedyPodcast #PodcastClips #MusicPodcast #Comedians =================================================== This episode is sponsored by: FANDUEL Sign up now for your twenty-five dollar bonus on FanDuel Predicts. HEAD TO https://fanduel.com/whiskey TO GET STARTED! MARS MEN For a limited time, our listeners get 50% off FOR LIFE, Free Shipping, AND 3 Free Gifts at Mars Men https://mengotomars.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ginger, I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Jr. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I don't know that I say that for my guest, but I mean him once again today, it's Oliver Tree. You like that intro? I love that. Was that good? You're getting close to one of those people.

They're kind of, uh, sports. The auctioneers? Yeah. What a 5 to 7-9-7-9-7-O-O-Lover-Tree. I like it. How long you've been working on that? 42 years. Wow.

Since I was a born, since I was a born, I do it. I've been talking fast my whole life. People think I'm on drugs, but I'm not on, am I on drugs? See, I'm not on drugs. When was the last time you did drugs? An hour and a half ago? Right. So it might be a little bit of after.

I think they go away. Don't they go away after like 30 or 40 minutes? Usually I think stays in your system for a good 32 days? No way, dude. Yeah. Depends the substance. He was doing poppers. I was doing poppers.

Poppers again? Poppers again? Yeah. You're using them last time I was here. To the roof. You really like him. It's good for brain functionality, from what I understand. That's what they say.

Yeah? Yeah. Well, I heard... Do you hear that? What is that? That's a popper's talking, dude. Uh-oh. We're back.

You're a big Whippets guy. Dude, I used to love Whippets guy. Dude, you look like a Wippins guy. I was a Wippets guy, dude. I definitely get that vibe from you. I used to love them. Loved them. Big Whippets guy myself.

I stopped, though. Why? A few weeks ago. Oh, you did? Yeah. Well, I was... I mean, not clean entirely. I still do

microdosing on the mushrooms, but sober besides that. Wait, you're microdosing mushrooms? Yeah, not right now. How many days a week do you do it then? Oh, I do it about six or seven. Six or seven days a week? But not during business hours.

This is business hours. Yeah. No, I only do it once every two to three weeks. I'm doing a beautiful mind math. Well, it depends. If it's a business day, I skip holidays. Which holidays, though? Jewish holidays?

No, we do it on the Jewish holidays. You do, yeah. You don't respect the service. But mostly just the government-mandated holidays. Anything where the post office is closed, you'll do it. Yeah. Ideally, those are the best days. But yeah, I used to love whippets, man.

It's great when you take a lot of drugs and then you do the whippets and you lose kind of touch with reality and you start going in and out of different time zones. What time zone have you gone to that you like the most? I don't know. I never really remember. The whippets, they just make you black out at a certain point. Yeah, it's not good for you. First time I did whippets, though, I broke my arm, mountain biking and Whistler, and I broke this bone, the humerus, the biggest bone in the body, and I went over my handlebars, crashed last run of the last day of the last part of the trip.

Fall, break my humorous, and then insane, bro. They picked me up in this big truck. Like, it was in the middle of, you know, the snow time. Summer Slopes, Whistler, BC, British Canada. British Columbia. British Canada. But British Canada, sorry, you're right. I was in British Canada.

Yeah, BC. And, bro, the guy, he's like, there's 42,000 pounds in this thing go to town. He gave me a whole tank. And I was like 16 at the time, 15. So I'm huffing on this thing. And eventually, you know, because anytime you take it,

the pain goes away. It's pretty effective for broken bones. I don't know if you've ever experimented. Whippets are good for broken bones. Very good. Wow. So I'm taking it because any time the pain comes back, you just start huffing on this thing. Go to town.

Next thing I know everything is pink and blue, slow motion. It was quite a trip. And what did you get out of it? Well, actually, this is crazy. So I got very ill afterwards. So for three days, and I'm sure they gave me some other drugs at the hospital, but for three days. So I had to take suppositories because I couldn't keep anything down. This is the only time in my life I ever had to.

by not choice. Take it by choice, but this is for not choice. Yeah, there's forced. Forced. Mandatory, dude. So I threw up on the airplane, got it. On the train,

and on the bus. That's your plane's trains and automobile. So it's just puking on every form of public transport? That's amazing. It was amazing. You were yacked out. And that's why you're so skinny. You lost all that weight.

No, I began fat. You were 400 pounds when I met you, dude? No, dude. I was like 350, 375. 375? Yeah. Wait, what do you mean? You're still skinny?

I've been getting chunky. So I did in and out yesterday. Taco Bell the day before. I've been going big or going home. What's your Taco Bell order? Okay, so bean and cheese burrito. Got it. No onions.

Okay. But sometimes I add the extra hot sauce or extra cheese in there or something so that they have to make a fresh one. Oh. So I learned that recently. Smart. But it's been getting me even fatter because I do it with all my items. Yeah. So bean and cheese?

Bean and cheese, no onions. Then I do the nachos supreme with the, it's a nacho taco. Oh, yeah. The Doritos. Yeah, the Dritos Los Tacos? Yeah. You better believe I get those. Yep.

I love those. And then I get a Chalupa. And then just for old times sake, I get the little chips and cheese dip. That's for my childhood. Yeah. And then I get a Baja blast. Yeah, what about you? What's your order?

Strong order, dude. Stop. You say that to every guest. No, I don't. They're your favorite guests that have a strong taco about order? What's your order? Three cheese or grateded crunches. Wow.

Two Doritos Los Tacos. Wow. No tomato. Um. Wait, because you're a GERD. Yeah. Acid reflux. Yeah, acid reflux.

I can't have it. No raw tomatoes. Cook tomato, fine. Right. Raw tomato? Because you're Italian, right? Yeah. Irish Italian.

Yeah, Irish and Italian. Are you Irish Italian? Yeah, I'm Irish and Italian. So what I can do is I can have stewed tomatoes, sun dried tomatoes, but I can't have none of them raw tomatoes. I don't like that stuff. Is it because you don't like it or because of the acid reflux? Yeah, I'm an old white guy.

You get it bad? I'll get it so bad. I'll be in the middle of the middle of the middle of the food. the night going. Wait, you're pretty gassy? Gassy boy, dude. Me too. That's what my wife says.

Gassy boy. Yeah, I've parts so much. All right, gassy boy, take your butt down to the bathroom, gassy boy. Wait, is she from Jamaica? Yeah. Born and raised. Gassy boy. That's crazy.

Yeah. Well, you don't think I can get a Jamaica? No, I thought you could do whatever you put your mind to. You're a guy who's very powerful heart and soul. I think whatever you put your mind to, no problem. Yeah, I mean, she fell in love with me. I was on the island. What island?

Jamaica Really? Yeah. Have you been? No. You'd love it. I do want to go. It's crazy.

It's another world out there, man. I'm gonna go... I'm going to Dominican Republic soon. That's gonna be fun. Going down to the DR. I don't know, dude. I genuinely don't know. You should go to Haiti.

Haiti? Yeah. Good time to go. Stuff is cheap there right now. What about Mexico? Should I go? Love it. Big fucking fan of Mexico, bro.

I've been over 20 times. A little dangerous right now. Depends. Puerda viarta. Definitely more rough. I've been there too. Beautiful place, but maybe not this moment

wait for things to chill. Mexico City is top five cities in the entire world. Mexico City is phenomenal. Phenomenal. Some of the best food you'll ever find. And some of the prettiest women.

Can't say that. You're married now. I can still see pretty people. Can't say that? You're a beautiful man. Can I not say that you're a beautiful man? Stop. You say that to all your guests.

I do, actually. We have said that the last five guests in a row. Well, thank you. Name me a place that I need to go to that you went to that changed your life around the world. There's so many. I mean, easy one.

to go to as far as top five. Yeah. Antarctica. You went. How long were you there? Twice. I'm about to go back for my third time. Whoa. You go there for about 10 days.

What are you doing up there, dude? Or down there. Okay, so the first time, though, I stayed for an extended period of time. So I did a long, long stay? Yes, super long. And you were doing research? Research. I play some concerts on the tour boats.

Got you. So I do, I've done six sets so far. Wow. So some performance DJ and with some singing, ambient sets as well, I do it for the yoga. Oh. Yeah, we did, there was a shaman there and we actually was with my parents and we, we call it hippie flipping. We did mushrooms and ecstasy. Hippie flipping.

What's candy flipping? Is that acid? Candid. Acid and ecstasy. Yeah, that's fun too. Used to be a big fan of that. Yeah. I stopped.

I haven't done acid since my Burning Man trip. When was that last year? That was 2016. Oh, 2016? No, I was 17. So that was a long time ago. Long time ago, dude. Yeah, I'm 42 now.

No, you're not. How old are you? 42. Shut the front door. Are you actually? I am. How old am I? 42.

42. No fucking way. We're both 42. This is so crazy. But what's the big difference between you and I? We're both 42, but you. But you? But you.

Get the three cheesy cretina crunches. That's right, dude. Like a big boy and you just get beating and cheese. No a yon. And then what I do. do is... Are you French now? Yeah, no. Okay, wait. Where are we gonna say? What I do when I'm done with Taco Bell?

Yeah. When I'm done ordering. Because I don't want my wife to get mad at me because I got, because she doesn't like that I have junk food sometimes at night when I come home from shows. So I eat it in the car. I pull over somewhere in a nice little park and I eat it in the car like a little fat boy. Yep. My grandpa used to do that. Eat it like a little fat, sad boy in the car and I listen to some tunes that I like. I usually listen. Heavy metal. I always like that. When I have Taco Bell, what kind of shit? Metal, dude. Megadeth.

Mega death. I didn't take you as a mega death. Only when I'm eating Taco Bell. Really? I just went like... I love that shit. I love that shit. But then when I'm done with Taco Bell, I throw it away, and then it's only classical music on the way home.

I love that. So my whole experience of making music is based on a memory from my childhood, eating at Taco Bell with my father. And there was a song. I can't remember the name of the song or what it was, but my entire experience making music is trying to recreate that feeling, that song that I heard and talked about, because it's a very warm, happy

place for me. You and your pop food. Me and pops. Going there, mom doesn't know. Not allowed. My mom's a hippie, right? She doesn't like that kind of crap. She does not allow it. I remember one time I went to a write-it, I thought I was cool because I wasn't in the organic health food store. Because you lived in that when you were a kid. That was my whole life. That's all I knew. And your dad did this. He would sneak you out. He was a bad dad. He was a bad boy.

He took me to Burger King, Taco Bell. Made me an addict for life. cool dad. That's one cool dude. Your dad is the man. He's the fucking man. Because he was like, you know what? I'm going to have a moment with my son. We're going to share something private and cool and it's just for us. Just for us. And you're not doing anything wrong.

You're just... Well... I mean, mom wouldn't like it, but you're not hurting anybody. No, the only problem is now I'm hooked. Yeah, we are all hooked. I can't stop. You can't stop, dude. I don't want to stop. Yeah, but that influenced your music career. And by the way, easy transition, but I do want to plug it. You got an album.

Stop. 24th. Is that when it's coming out? That's when's coming out, man. Bro, you know before me, where are you getting this information? Because I didn't even know that. I don't know where you're getting this info. I'm tuned in, dog. Up here I'm tuned in. I thought it was the 21st, so that's crazy. Nope, better not be. It better not be.

You're probably right. I have no idea. Because we're throwing a huge party. When is that party? Wait, you're going to be there? April 24th is what it says. Is it the 21st? No, you're probably right. I have no idea. Is that fall on a Friday? Yeah. Then you're right. That's amazing, man. I'd be really bummed out because we, yeah.

What's the album's name? Love you madly. Hate you deeply? Hate you badly. Hate you badly. Dude you badly. Dude, come on. I was right there.

Love you madly, hate you badly. Yeah. And that's based on a moment in your life that happened. That's based on something that someone said to you. Well, not just someone. A certain someone by the name of Bobby Lee. Do you want to squash this beef or do you want to keep it moving? I don't know if now's the right time.

For people that don't know, you should go back and watch bad friends when OT came on bad friends. And I got to tell you, a war was started in a weird way. You didn't start it. I didn't do shit. I'll tell you what. I never ever do anything. Bobby Lee started it. He's always the instigator.

And he's been talking a lot of shit about you and I don't really like it. Because he knows that we're cool and he's like, I don't like that dude. I don't want him around. He's honestly just bad vibes. He's bad, bad vibes. Like, he's like, he's sober, right? So they say, right? He claims.

Yeah, he claims. Something's off. I can't put my finger on. I don't know, maybe he's just such a deep video game addict that it's destroyed part of his frontal cortex. Well, this is all gone. A lot of it is gone. There's not much left going on up there. No, they tested.

I think they did a test on half of his frontal cortex is kind of like it's gray matter now. Like nothing's there. And he had an underdeveloped frontal lobe, right? 100%. Yeah. You can tell by the shape of his head, yeah, because it protrudes, right? He has a protrusion. Well, he kind of looks like a Neanderthal.

You ever seen that? A little bit of a Neanderthal. It's kind of like the way that his forehead's shaped. It's lump. A lot of forward weight. And his jawline, too, because it's folded in and up. So it talks by, it's weird. It sounds like a physician where you're going to, wait, are you like a...

Well, I went to med school, man. Right. I never graduated. What's his facial rating? His face rating is 12, 16, 4. So a perfect rating. of course is 10, 12, 8. So he's off.

The eight, the four differentials because of his, this is called your calaxial, your calaxial nerve that runs down through here. His calactial protrusion is significantly less than what would be considered good looking. Whatever people say, I don't, as in medical terms, we call it,

it's called V, it's, well, the tech, it's called VA, meaning visually applicable, visually applicable. Visually appealing is kind of the street turn. Right, right, right. But he's not visually appealing. So people see him, they get scared. It's crazy, because I knew something was off,

but I didn't know how to put it into medical terms. Well, it's science. Right. It's science. You're rating, because we rated you, we actually pulled it up. You're one off from being a perfect visual face. Do you know that?

You're making this up. No, we rated you. Isn't it the nose? It is, unfortunately, yeah. But everything else was perfect, dude. Everything else was perfect. We ran through the system. Well, because look, dude.

Men love you, women love you. Right. And so you kind of are able to dance in any sort of beautiful world. When I was 18, I made the decision. My parents wanted to go against us, but I was old enough to make the decision. And I went and I got a nose augmentation. You got your nose done. Wow.

No. Bigger. You wanted it bigger? Whoa. That's cool. Dude, I'm getting fucking calls. I got to turn this shit. No, take the call right now.

Take it. Who is it? doctor. What is he gotta say? I got an appointment. What are we talking? 830. Dude, I think I got an ulcer. Where? It's not fucking funny, dude. I was shitting out blood this weekend. You poop blood? I know. Two things though. What? Could be a hemorrhoid? No. I've been taking other medicine. Or have you been eating blood? Because if you've been eating blood, you will poop it out. That's something that we did learn. Where did you learn that? We did an experiment where we started eating blood for a week. and a half because we wanted to see what it would do well you know what where do we where do we get the blood is that what you want to know wait what yeah sometimes now it's red so it's fresh you got to go see the

dock i've set it up it's dude the closest they could get me in is in a week and that's a week just to get an appointment to go to get another appointment to go get another appointment to go get another appointment it's fucking insane man this system is insane see we just do our own experiments that's why we went and got blood where did you get the blood again del taco no fucking word In the back? No, they have it on their disc, on their, what are that, dollar me? Are you sure it wasn't hot sauce? No wonder you were shit in blood.

Wait, was that hot sauce? Were you lying? It was the red spicy stuff, right? Yeah, he said it was blood. Is blood not spicy? Blood, no, it's more of a metallic. It tastes like a penny. How do you know?

Dude, I used to take, I had an ulcer before. I had to take, is it iodine pills? What's the... Iron? Iron, iron pills. Iron, bro. I'm off. I slept like four hours, so my brain's not functioning.

What's wrong with you? Why aren't you getting any sleep? Bro, I was playing chess at 5.30. I just started playing last week, dude. Now I'm addicted. I was watching North Korean documentaries while playing chess, bro. That sounds good. I went up like 100 points in my rating.

Wait a minute. Could you beat someone that's good now? Are you that good? No. I just started last week, man. So what? I'm addicted. I think I might be.

I watched that documentary about that girl who was the Russian chess player. What was that girl's name? There was just a documentary about her. and she beat like everybody in the world and it made me want to play chess Did you play? No, I don't like it It's so addicting, don't start Don't start

But you gotta be smart to do it dude I can't do it no no Yeah dude You think so? Yeah to make moves What is it called? Queen of chess Dude you gotta watch

Wait I saw it queen's gambit No that's a TV show dude But that was good Queen of chess Yeah queen of chess It's a documentary Yeah what was her name It's about Hungarian

Prodigy Judith Polgar Yep Judith Polger I don't know Judith Borgar I haven't heard of her but I'll need to check it out She's the shit She's probably one of the greatest chess players

To ever walk the earth Better than Magnus I'm a big Magnus guy You're a Magnus guy Yeah Look he's one of the best What about Bobby Fisher Are you a fish dog

You don't like fish What's his name Bobby Fisher First name Robert Bobby Bobby And you don't like anybody Name Bobby

No it brings me back to a very dark place So no one named Robert Bob or Bobby Can get by you No, because I had a falling out too with Logic whose name is Bobby as well. Yeah, Bobby, that's his name too. Yeah, we had a big falling out. What, you did his movie?

I acted in his movie. You were supposed to be in it too, no? I know, we were on the road. I couldn't do it. I was on tour. You big timed him. No, dude. Bobby came and he sat in a hotel room

and he claimed I gave him fucking monkey pox. It's fucking bullshit. I only had one. There was only one, I think it was just... It was one notch. I saw. He sent me a photo. But he got really sick, dude.

Yeah, he looked bad. His lips got all, like, swollen and sealed up. I would want... I thought, maybe mine was a mosquito, but I don't... I don't think so, dude. It didn't look like it. Did you get it... Is it still there? I don't want to show it. Okay, that's why I started wearing the long sleeve. No, that's fine. Longslee only. I didn't do Bobby's movie because I was out of town. I was on tour, man, we couldn't do it. But I wanted... Bobby, which? Bobby Lee?

Logical. Logic. Logical. Sorry, logic. See, you're thinking in chess terms now. I know. I want to be logical when I'm talking about moving upon. No, I want to do Logic's movie and I couldn't. I was on tour. But... But you had a beef with him because of what happened on set. Yeah, we got a following. It was bad, right? It was really bad.

And then he came after me, and basically we had actual falling out because we were both playing Red Rocks and we were both slated to play the same day. So remember last time when I came to bad friends, I tried to get Bobby, Bobby Lee to open up for me at Red Rocks. He wouldn't do it. Big time me. Yeah, I don't like that kind of behavior, man. Dude, and I was giving him the opportunity of a lifetime.

He plays for what, 10, 20 guys playing the same material year after 30 people. And he's getting naked every night? Every night? He still does that? Every night. How is that legal? For short-statured Asian men, it is still legal in the United States. So it's a size thing?

It is, 100%. And he's allowed to smoke cigarettes while he does it? Yeah. Indoors? Indoors. Because it's part of the act? Part of his act, yeah. Is that actually legal?

Yeah, it is. What about when there's kids in the audience? Birthday parties, Kintaneros, Bar Mitzvah. Got to be 18 and over. And he doesn't do Kinseniros anymore. He stopped after the accident? Yeah, because after the accident, it got bad at the park. It's bad.

He fell and it was bad. For people that don't know, Bobby got hurt. heard he did a Kinseniera five to seven years ago, something about that. And they had It was all in the news, too, I saw it. It made KTLA. They had blindfolded a couple of kids.

They were swinging at a pinata, and one of them took off the blindfold and he said, look, they got a human pinata. And they started swinging at Bobby and this kid beat him within an inch of his life. To a pulp, really. Well, it was his fault. And, dude, the thing is, the crazy part is it actually helped the protrusion.

Oh, yeah. From his coaxical. Yeah. It did definitely help. but um and god bless that young man that that did that it wasn't his fault you know he didn't know what he was doing he just saw bobby yeah because yeah the kid had glasses he was he was legally blind yeah his right eye was legally blind bro i'm getting text i know i need to call your doctor dude in here we pour whiskey whistler ooh the NBA playoffs are here da da da da da tan da da tan da and you can

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They're not supposed to be texting me. Why did your doctor text you? That's what I'm saying, bro. I just set up an appointment in the ride. You did? Riding over here, I'm making calls, bro, like a mogul. How cool was Red Rocks, by the way? I hate it. What?

Why? Yeah. Why? Bro, I played it like three, four times now. Why do you hate it? Bad memories. Bad memories of what? No one came. It was empty?

Damn, dude. No, there was like 15 people there. But it's like, it's like a, I think you can have like eight and a half, nine thousand. How many people does Red Rocks fit? I want to say it's gotta be 10,000. I think it's just shy, just shy. 9,500. And there was like, 9,555.

See, and that's what I'm saying, bro. And how many people came? 525? Mm-hmm. There was like 25 people there. It felt so weird, bro. It's eerie when it's empty like that. But you did it again anyway.

Just to see. Just to see. see, man. Will you do it again? Yeah, dude, you got it. But next time you're opening up, dude. I'll do it. We could do with MasterCard. We can get some kind of brand partnership. We have

this could be big for both of us. We have a deal with Diners Club. Diner's Club? Yeah. Is that like the Big Bear Diner? Yeah, Big Bear Diner. They have their own credit card system. Really? Yeah. Wait, are you actually tied to the credit card companies? We're very tight. We're tied very deep. Well, because McCone is in $175,000 in debt, we said we would work it off by doing ads for diners club. That's very kind of here. We did Amex, we did Visa, we did Discover, MasterCard, and now

we're doing the Diners Club, the Bears' Club, Diner's Club. That's so dope. But we paid off half of it, which is kind of great. And how long did that take? Six years, six years, five and a half years. So we have, if we do this for five more years, we'll be able to pay off McCone's debt. And most of his debt went to, well, what he spent all the money on was buying flights for himself to go overseas to help victims of tragedies so we thought they would wash it dude you're a stand-up guy thank you yeah anytime there was anything bad around the world he'd get on a plane and go over there and help anytime name a time that was bad around the world go ahead world door two oh guess well who was there mccone you were

alive yep yep that's fucking crazy see you look younger than you are moisturized dog he moisturizes if you're good a good person you don't age as much you don't age if you're a good person that's what they said that's why you look super super young stop you're a good dude well that's why bobby looks old and haggard and how old is he isn't he like 70 now 17 or 18 how old is bobby and no one knows nobody knows he's got to be at least 70 or 80 years old he's got to be in 60s i think he is i mean we don't really talk about it we don't really know right it's kind of a sensitive topic for him too yeah tremendously yeah it is very much he's getting he's aging horribly some people don't get old well yeah you know what I mean he's one of

him he's the one I guess if you looked it up who's the most famous blind guy on earth stevie wonder right stevie rave on stevie wonder what's the guy ray Charles Wander Ray Charles is blind too right yeah but he is he dead uh yeah but isn't didn't they say the whole thing was Stevie Wander it was fake I don't know they found out well let me tell you something I was at a restaurant not too long ago. Yeah. And someone at our table was not from America. Sweet girl. She didn't

really speak English. She was with a friend of ours. And someone at the table goes, oh my God, is Stevie Wonder? And she turned around and she waved right out of him. No fucking way. I swear to God that's a true story. She waved right at him. Yeah. He was there? Yeah, at this restaurant we went to. And guess what? What was the spot?

Right here in Hollywood. Jesus. What? He waved back. He waved back. Are you fucking kidding me? I think he's a liar. Bro, that's what I'm saying. There was multiple things because I knew someone who played a concert with him

and he was walking up on the stage and then he said, keep walking. So he's... He said just passed. So he's a liar? No, I don't know if he's a liar. Oh, okay, so how about this?

So he's a seer. Well, here's a seer, dude. To be considered legally blind, you can still sometimes see shapes. It's not like you're just seeing pitch black. Some people do see pitch black. Yeah. Do they?

Yes, some people are completely blind. Can we look that up? Yeah, what are the population in the earth that's completely blind? I don't know if that's true. Do you have trouble with your vision? I have really bad vision, actually. What are your numbers? Because I'm getting older, I think, I haven't done a test, but I need glasses.

Like, I'm having trouble reading what even that says on the wall. What does that say in the yellow? Can you see, can you read that? Is that a Kill Bill poster? Yeah. Kind of. What is it? It's a, it's a poster from Kid Super, the designer.

Do you know that guy? Kid Super? No. Well, I see what you're rocking. Who shirt is that? Teddy Fresh. T.F. Dude. You're a big Teddy Fresh guy.

Always have been. You live in Teddy Fresh. No, I only, so I stopped buying clothes a long time ago. And I stopped choosing what to wear. I have about four shirts. Two of them are Teddy Fresh. What are the other two? One I shouldn't say, but I got a communist shirt.

It's so hard, bro. I was in Vietnam. Oh, shit. And everywhere you go, full communist symbols everywhere. I just got it because I thought. I thought it looked really incredibly aesthetically speaking. I don't consider myself a communist in any capacity. I'm a capitalist.

You're a capitalist? For sure. You love... Through and through. I love cash. But I don't actually care anymore. I've been very much uninterested. I'm semi-retired.

Do you think it's because you've made too much money? I made too much. It was too much at one time. Right. And then it kept coming. What was your most successful month financially? Because I had heard rumors on the internet, and I don't know if this is crazy. What did you hear?

17 million in one month? Are you laughing? Is it more than that? Oh, shit. Bro, that's literally, that's what we do in a week off the merch drops. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa. 17 milly a week is what you're making. No, that was at my peak, bro. Oh, oh, oh, oh. That was at my peak. But where did all the cash go? I don't really want to talk about it.

That's fine, man. We did a thing. Are you familiar with? Bernie Madoff? No. So he's a financial advisor. What's his name? Bernie Madoff.

Look him up. Okay. It's a pretty famous story. Bring him a picture for the audience, Joe, if you can, so we can see who it is. Bernie Madoff. So I started working with this through my aunt. She lives in Florida. Okay.

And she connected me to Madoff. Right. And so he was doing all my financial advising. And there was a brief stint where... Oh, no. I don't like where this is going. Basically, I just, during my pinnacle, we were making close, you know, 72 million. 72 million, what?

A month. A month. Wow. $72 million a month you were making. No, what is the math then? How much is that? It's $864 million a year. 864 million a year.

You're making $72 million a month, $864 million for the year. Damn. Yeah, can you just talk? I don't really want to talk about what happened with Matt off, but I'm getting... That's fine? I'm getting a little worked up here, but if you want to just share a little bit about what happened with that situation. I think he went to prison. He went to jail.

Yeah. For what? For... Don't tell me some weirdo shit. What did he do? I think it just embezzlement or something. Financial embezzlement? Oh, so you...

Oh, no, a big Ponzi scheme, I guess. Oh, my God, dude. So would you think you... It was all gone. You lost all your fortune to him? Everything, yeah. How much do you say? He was using my money to pay off other people.

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That's the old phrase That was the whole fucking scheme He would take money From one person and pay the next And get everyone to make it look like That they're making their money back But there was some of the bigger fishes Such as myself

And some of my associates And So because of Mr. Madoff You lost $800 million? It says here His Ponzi scheme Involved the total fraud Of nearly 65 billion

and the largest from a single anonymous person around $864 million. You're this anonymous person, dude? This is a trip. I never knew that. Can we just talk about that? Yeah, we know. We can move on. I'm sorry about that.

Well, I don't want to put your business out there. We can cut that kind of stuff. We can't be. You can put it in. I don't get a fuck. It's already, it's water under the bridge. People already know about this. Damn.

I'm sorry, dude. Yeah. No, it's good. It's good. What's been going on otherwise, man? Is everything good? Lifewise? Like, ladies? What's going on with the ladies? I'm good, man. He's disturbed, dude. It's just been a long fucking week, bro. I know, you haven't been sleeping or nothing. What are you excited about right now? Is anything?

Just chess? Just chess? Yeah. Nothing else is entertaining right now? Not really. I hate to see you like this, dude. You seem super upset. No, it's just... I've been kind of going through. I don't really want to get into. do it. It's kind of just personal shit. You don't really like to talk about your personal life, right? Yes, I do. If you want to share, let's share. What's your wife's mother's maiden name?

Her, wait, my, you mean my wife's maiden name or my wife's mom's mom's maiden name? Wife's mom. My wife's mom's maiden name is it Scalango. Scalongo is, uh, it's, I mean, I don't know, do I have to explain this? Yeah. You don't know what Salango is? No. Scalango is... You're making that up. Scalango? Yeah.

What? It's not even a real word. It's a last name. Scalango, it means little shoe. Okay. Scalango, in Patua, it means little shoe. Wait, so she had a small foot. Well, one of her foot was clubbed.

Really? Was that intentional? Yeah. Well, you know how they do that? Certain places they put the... They clubbed her foot. Certain places they take the... The kid's foot, they put it into a super small shoe.

Yeah, they did that, and they bronzed it. Bronze the shoe. Yeah, they bronzed the shoes, and they keep them. They played them bronze. You know how they do it with the watermelons? They put them in a shape. In a square, in a square box. Growing to a square.

But you know why someone like you has never been put in a box? Why? Because you're not a square, dude. Stop. You say that to all the guests. Do I? No, you're a free-flowing guy. You're one of these people.

The reason your name is Oliver Tree. is because your brain works like a tree. It digs deep down into the earth, receives the nutrients it needs from society and the earth, and gifts everyone air to breathe, and that air that you make is music. Well, actually, it was going to be Oliver Twist, but that was taken.

Well, yeah, that's a very famous. You know how I got my name? Oliver? No. Tree. Tree? Yeah. How?

So my father. Great dude, Taco Bell, dog. Yeah. What's my father's name? Huh? Do you know my father's name? Yeah. Joshua. Josh. Whoa. Joshua Tree. Yeah. He was the guy who initially found, well, technically he's the fourth. So Joshua Tree was his father's father. So Joshua Tree, the area, was named after your great-grandfather. Yeah. What? Technically, my great-great, but my father's great-grandfather. Wow. Yeah. So, like, we have ties. that go back to the desert.

So, Oliver tree. Yeah. I was the only other kid in the family who every year would be given a gift of a tree. How many trees? So you have a lot of trees? Oh, yeah, I have a vineyard. Wow. Yeah, I have olive trees.

So if you go to Joshua Tree and you go near the side near Indio. Yeah. That's where, so have you seen the part when you're driving through? Have you been? A bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful place.

It's gorgeous. So you know how there's all of the wind turbines? Oh, yeah? Yeah, that's my uncles. Your uncle owns all the wind turbines in the desert? Holy crap. Yeah. And then I guess I didn't know you were, I mean, you're kind of like a nepo baby, right?

Isn't he? A little bit. Is that offensive? No. I mean, I didn't know you had the game like that. It's not offensive. It's just part of my lineage. It's old money.

It is very old money. So my uncle, he has all of the turbines, right? All the wind turbines out in the, the desert are owned by your own? No, just the ones near Indio on the way to Joshua. Yeah, that's where they, I feel like they all are. Well, a lot. There's still a lot. We actually have, my family has some in England off the coast. They're actually in the water too. And we have some in Sweden as well. They're in the water. So we have different ones, but these ones are probably our biggest

group of turbines. So if you actually go about six miles down to the northern side of Indio? Yeah. Yeah. That's where my olive tree vineyard is. Can anybody go? Yeah We sell olive oil by the pound You do Yeah And we do coffee as well Actually

Have you Are you familiar with the Indonesian Style of coffee Where the cats eat it And then they poop out The coffee beans No Yeah

We started doing that last April No I have heard of that Where animals will eat the bean Eat the raw bean And then they'll poop out the coffee bean Right Because their body Can't digest the bean

Yeah but it deshells it So it gets rid of everything else Get rid of all the toxins, covers it, and there's obviously... Okay, so, but yeah, but when it comes out, it has poop on it, what do you do with the poop? You have to use it for something? Yeah, we use it for the fertilization of the olive trees. So it's all full circle.

Basically, the entire piece is very sustainable from the environment. That's why we do the wind turbines. Ah. We actually are doing everything in-house, so we're self-reliant, self-sustainable. Right. We're self-reliant. We're self-sustainable. We have everything we need.

Basically, if the end of the world is coming, the apocalypse, whatever, bro, we have got you covered. Well, this is a dumb question, but I'm not a smart guy. There's no dumb question. Well, this is going to... If you use the poop to fertilize the olive tree, does the olive oil taste like poop? No, it's a spice. Oh, okay. It's a spicy kind of taste.

It doesn't... Yeah, but they must smell really bad. Well, and that's the reason why my uncle built the turbines in the first place. It actually blows all of the smell, all the scent down south to Indio. If you look at it, it's actually pointing towards the southern direction, which actually blows it down through the canyon, over the mountain ways. So it's designed that way. It was designed.

The actual setup there was not a valley. We carved that out ourselves. You've seen how they did it in the Panama Canal? I've seen some of the videos, yeah. Yeah. Same setup. Same kind of setup. Same team.

So the French actually tried to do that initially. Yeah. Didn't work out. Americans came in, and we actually finished the Panama Canal. Have you been? I've been one time, but I didn't know we finished that? Yeah, we did that. Wow.

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There are no dumb questions. Well, when your uncle passes, will you get all that land? Presumably, I'm first in the lineage to be able to accept that, but I have to ask my grandfather, Joshua. Is he still alive? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, he's still ticking.

I've heard a lot of rumors about family lineages being connected to like, you know, I don't want to say it, but like the Kennedys. Right. And also, you know. Rockefellers? Some of the Rockefellers. I don't want to say anything. What the Rothschild is like, your family does have a direct connection to all these people. We do, yeah.

So there was a rumor. Yeah. Could be true. Could be a lie. McCone remembers. People always have said that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France, but apparently... No, well, technically, that's where people have it mixed up. So my family, if you look at the actual lineage of the Joshua Trees,

okay, we're French, but technically we're French Canadian. So a lot of people have it mixed up as they think that the French gifted the Statue of Liberty, but it was actually the French Canadians who gifted it, and it was my grandfather, and it was a team of individuals, a Frenchman. But... Do you know Jean Rock? Was he... He was a king of France?

No? No, he was a mentor of mine. Oh, Jean Rock. He was my mentor. I worked with him in Antarctica for a long stint. Oh, wow. You're not familiar? Unfortunately, no.

I mean, I feel a little ignorant, but... You should know. Really? John Rock. Jean Rock. Jean Rock. Yeah. But anyways, he's...

He's French, but he technically is from Canada, so he's a French Canadian, but in the opposite way. But he's the one that helps your grandfather bring the Statue of Liberty over. No. He's just a man that you worked with. Yeah. Oh. Well, of some of the other, like, big modern marvels, I would say, you know, they say the world's fair. And we're all familiar with the world's fair.

Well, and there's been many. I know. But your family has had a hand. I'm not trying to blow your spot up. Your family, we've looked it up, has had ties with the world's fair, every world's fair. So we missed 1914 because my uncle was training for the Olympics. and then also there was the 1962 which that one was just because

the fees were so outrageous and there was actually a boycotting what my family called it. We were boycotting the World's Fair that year. Wow. Yeah. I mean I hate to pry but I feel like I've known you for a while but I never knew like the depth of your family weight. And that's the thing I'm so much more than that. You are. I'm not saying you're... I don't like to be kind of like

just talking about my family because I'm not like trying to be a Nepo baby. I'm not trying to be a clout chaser. Right. I'm not trying to be like, you know, oh yeah, like my family did this. Like, I already did enough on my own. Well, you did everything on your own. And I did it all myself. Well, like, because you know there's a bunch of enemies that you have in the music business and they're all nepo babies.

Dude, and that's the thing, bro. And these guys, bro, they're so so full of themselves. They don't even write their own music. They don't produce their own beats. My album that I made Love You Madly, I produced entirely by myself. Not one person help. No, one fucking person. My engineer, he helped mix it with me. And I recorded all the vocals, but he helped record some of the guitars.

But I produced it, engineered most of it myself, mixed it with him. Wrote every song. Wrote every lyric, every melody, every instrument. I wrote every single thing, played every instrument. What's the name of the song in the album you like the most? It kind of comes down between two songs, but right now I'm leaning towards one. It's called Sweet Child of Mine. Sweet Child of Mine?

Okay. And what's this is... Are you a father? I actually don't know that. I don't really like to talk about my personal life. I'm okay with talking about lineage, but I don't like to bring in the family, but I have two sons and a daughter.

Okay. So, sweet child of mine. About your son or daughter. I don't want to pry, but that's beautiful. It's a great title. You think so? Yeah. It's a good song title.

I mean, how many songs have you written that never made it out? Probably close to, I would say, at least 3,000, 4,000, probably 3,500. 4,000 songs I've never For sure Wow And all by you

No other Just me I mean I used to write music With my friends But I would write every lyric Every melody That's one thing I always stayed true to Sure

But I would let my other friends Like I can play guitar I played guitar On my platinum songs I played piano on my platinum songs But someone's better at playing it Let the motherfucker play Let them ride

Yeah And out And out of all those songs That you've written And not put out Will they ever Have a chance to see the light of day? I highly doubt it

Right. I highly doubt it. And I actually, you know, I've written something into my will and testament, which basically explains that when I die, everything comes out. Wow. So, yeah. Why is it a will and testament? Well, that's the thing.

So I don't know if you know this. I don't. My grandfather, he was a lawyer. So him and another team of lawyer. I'm not going to take all the credit for him. But, and this is not on the tree side, by the way. This isn't Joshua's tree. This is on my mom's side.

Oh, your mother said, yeah. Team of lawyers, he worked closely with. He was leading. It was just a name that they used to say amongst each other. It was just a name they would use amongst each other, and it just stuck. You're involved in so many aspects of the business. The one thing that I think I'm most impressed by is all the things you've turned down. Like all of the movies, TV shows, features on other people's albums.

I mean, the internet is really aware of this of how much stuff you've turned down. I mean, a lot of it is public knowledge. Well, because people get upset that they can't work with you. They'll offer you massive stuff. On the star is born on Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, you were originally commissioned to write the song for Lady Gaga. Well, not originally commissioned.

I actually was paid to do it. Oh, they paid you to do it. Yeah, I got paid him full. That was original commission then. For Lady Gaga. Yeah. Wow. and why

actually I know I wrote some of her earlier stuff you know poker face poker face like her that's one of her like rum bum bum that's you wrote that and you're wow but how come you're not you're not credited

did you not want credit or is that I mean I'm credited on the back end it's called ghost writing so I worked with the same team we used to do stuff for Drake we did a bunch of stuff for the amigos yeah I wrote a lot of songs in the early 2000s that were pretty big as well

and you choose to attach yourself to them because of what it's a vanity thing oh I don't really want to be associated with the pop stardom type of thing I keep it lookie but you don't think you're a pop star you're a pop no no no definitely not I'm I'm loki but what do you consider yourself you're not a pop star no no I don't like to put labels on things I'm I'm fluid you know I'm very open-minded and I like all styles so if you look at my catalog especially my gold platinum stuff for the Oliver Tree project which is you know in comparison, pails in comparison.

But, you know, the teams I worked with to write those songs, and I was writing primarily as a songwriter, lyricism with the Lady Gaga stuff with the Drake stuff. All of that stuff that I did with them, it just doesn't feel the same because it's not truly raw, authentic shit.

It's a team of 20 people. But if you look at the splits, I have the lion's share. You do more than any of those guys. Oh, yeah. Because, I mean, you've got... I have upwards 65, 70%, some of the... these, but some of them, it's 52, 53.

I always make sure if I'm going to be brought on as a songwriter, I always take the lion's chair. That's one of my only rules. Well, that makes sense. I mean, look at some of this stuff. Like, this is, you know, Miss You has 800 million streams. Does it really? I thought it was at a billion by now. It's not. Well, I think combined it has like $4 billion or something.

If you look at YouTube, YouTube and everything. Apple Music, Dizer, Spotify. Do you use Wigger? No, I had to stop using it after what came out. Yeah. But it was a good streaming service for a while. It was pretty good, yeah. Yeah.

But we had to stop using once we found out about the founder. Not cool as the way I'll phrase it. There's one question I have about the oldest album that you have that's available up online right now. Yeah. There is a song on here, and I'm just curious about this because I feel like you should... Where is it? Here we go. And there it is.

2016. On When I'm Down, there's a B-side to this single, which is really strange that you put that on the internet. What was it? Because a lot of people don't do that. What? So When I'm Down, one of his most famous songs people know. Well, that was the first song I recorded as Oliver Tree and released, and I made it in a walking closet. And now it's platinum indie release.

No major label, no support. Just me and my homie. My friend was 14 at the time when he produced. Well, see, how old were you then? I was probably, this was, I was probably 30. Right. 32. 32, 33, maybe. Because there's a B side of this and it says, give me perks.

Right. Well, I was going through a pretty dark time. So you were addicted to Perkisset of the time? I was addicted to perks, oxy's, oxycodone. Yeah, we did a lot of that shit. I was a tweaker. You were a big tweaker then? Oh, yeah, big time.

How did you kick it to tweaking? Just cold turkey. You ate cold turkey? Yeah. Wow. Well, it started two days before things. Thanksgiving. So we did cold turkey diet so it's a tryptamine.

Triptophen. Is it Triptamine or triptophen? Triptophen. Yeah, I was fucking on that shit bad, bro. So they used triptophen in other types of, how do we say this? I'm not sure if this will get censored

but other types of replacement drugs. Oh, synthetics and stuff like that? Synthetics, designer drugs, you know. I'm not sure if you're familiar with designer drugs. Oh, yeah. Like Louis Vuitton and stuff like that.

Yeah. Gucci drugs? Yeah, do you know about the designer stuff? The stuff that's made in laboratory. Made by designer companies like Gucci. For sure. They put it on press pills. They put their logos.

They sell this shit out. And Gucci makes those pills. Yes. If you look, it's the same factories. They produce not only the original Gucci bags. They produce the counterfeits. And then they're on the side. Some of these places are doing press pills.

Gosh. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard some white. wild stuff like that, like Apple. The phone, we all have Apple phones. Started as actually an Apple company. Apple company, an orchard tree company.

Yeah. Which is, I'm sure. He was friends with my grandfather. Oh, you know them. Well, I don't know them personally, but my grandfather was very close, yes. Yeah, that's the thing that people don't know is Apple made, was a tree farm company for years. They had Apple orchards.

Well, Steve Jobs and Wozniak that actually both grew up on an orchard. Silicon Valley, Las Gatos, just down the street from where I grew up. Because your Santa Cruz, right? Santa Cruz, which is just over the side of the mountain. Highway 17. And so my father, he grew up in Las Casas, he went to Lehigh. And he actually went to high school with Steve Jobs and Wozniak. Shut up.

Yeah. So this is kind of how this whole thing started. Well, no, because my grandfather actually had his foot and his finger on the pulse of the early onset of Silicon Valley. It's so funny. People don't really know you the way they think they know you. Like this is, this stuff I feel like you haven't really revealed a lot. I prefer not to because you have to understand, like, there's a time and a place for everything. Yeah.

And, like, I'm just trying to be me, you know, and I want to be authentically me. And I want to be Oliver Trey. I don't want to be Joshua Tree. Well, you're not. You're your own man. I mean, like, if you want to be you, what do you scream from the rooftops at night? Who is that? What do you say?

What do you say? Right. Oh, right. I'm right. I'm right. That's what I say. And that's the thing. My grandfather, he was very instrumental with telling the guys. Telling who?

Wozniak specifically, but also Steve. He said to them, look, guys, there is an entire future that's going to take place. He was the precursor. This is precursing the internet. He actually had some ideas that turned and manifested into the early onsets of the bubble. Of the Silicon Valley bubble. Yes. The Silicon Valley bubble that bursted in 1986. My grandfather had precursor ideas of all this shit, bro. He had literally written it out.

He was literally like a Michelangelo of this shit. So you think he had some knowledge that other people... Well, no, I mean, he not think, I know. He actually worked closely with Satoshi. How did he know him? I can't speak all right. I don't want to... But yeah, he was involved with the early onset of Bitcoin.

Holy crap. Yeah. And the reason why Bitcoin crash, a lot of my family sold three months ago. You don't have any coin left. No, I don't have any coin left. Because you got rid of it all. It's not insider trading because technically we manipulate the market as the we see fit. And we need to purge some of the market to get it cleansed, get some of the people who are just fairweather fans coming in there.

Well, that's just like cleaning out your fridge. If something is expired, you've got to throw it out. You're not going to eat it. It's not going to. Why leave it in there? You don't do. You do not leave that shit in there. That's spoiled, right? You throw it away.

It's old milk. So I do get that purging. We do a cleansing. And then when the market crashes, we buy big. You have to buy huge. Every time. We buy more. We buy double technically.

I mean, it was at what, $121? 130, yeah, maybe something. Yeah, now it's what, 60? There was a rumor that for a long time you were paying people in your circle because you've got four assistance, two drivers, a chef. Like you have a huge entourage. You were paying people in Bitcoin. Well, no. That's a lie.

That's not true. That's not entirely not true. Okay. We were using ETH, so Ethereum, for those of you at home. ETA. Yeah, and so we would paint we would actually technically use a cleanser So we would take it decrypt it oh put it in an unencrypted wallet turn it into Eath sell it to eat Buy it back and then flip it and then we would send it the guys there was this money was so untraceable

No one had any idea where the show's coming or how much it's worth well right precisely Wow so we could pay dollar dime a dollar effectively you were like underpaying your whole staff Big time. Well, look, it's on them, you know. Bro, look it up. Use a fucking index. A coin index. It's not that complicated. It's not fucking rocket science. Which, by the way, on my mom's side, my grandfather worked for Lockheed Martin.

And he took a lot of the stuff he worked on to the grave. And this is actually factual information. So no one's going to speak. All right. He wasn't allowed to talk about the shit he was doing because it was working with alien technologies. And when I say alien, I don't mean UFO, mumbo, jumbo. I mean, he was working with out of this world stuff, bro. Like alien stuff.

Precisely. I mean, I don't know why you haven't made an album about that. Well, I did, bro. I made an entire album that got shelved by the label. Oh, and by the way, the label forgot to release my song before Valentine's Day. They just forgot to ingested into the system. And my fans are saying to me, Oliver, your album campaign is so dog shit. The label doesn't even care to ingest my music into the system.

Who's responsible for that, man? The higher-ups. How many people are on this label? I don't know, but they fired everyone, hired new people. I don't know. The level of incompetence is out of this fucking world. It's insane. That sounds foolish.

You made a, you made a Valentine's Day song. I made a Valentine's Day about breaking up on Valentine's Day, and they forgot to release it. And, bro, and that reminds me, like, the stuff. That's the system, dude. Yeah. That's the broken system. And it was the same system as the both my grandfather's face.

during World War I and World War II through the Korean War. Right. And this is where you've come out though. You've come out the other side being the artist. You're sick of getting screwed over. You have to have a voice. I'm so done getting bent over by these big pharma. Right. Big pharma specifically. Well, because it's the labels, it's big pharma. And then of course, big banks. Big banks. That's why I moved all my money into crypto. So then we sold? You sold high. Sold. So where do you keep your funds now? I can't disclose that. Why the fuck would I say that? I don't mean to pry. I just think it's interesting. People want to know you. You don't mean to pry, but you're asking me the fucking shit so the world can hear?

Well, I mean, bro. You're a smart dude. People want to follow in your footsteps. I know, but you have to understand. You have to pay for my courses to do that. I don't just give this shit out willy-nilly for anyone like yourself, Andrew. If you want to pay for my 16-week course, you can go on and follow my website for my seminars and weekly information that gets disclosed. But I'm not just giving that out on your shitty little podcast for free. Well, then people should click on the link and they can go to your seminar. Well, they can also go on my tours. They can go get the album.

They can do whatever. But none of that matters because what it comes down to is intention. What's your intention? I mean, that's oddly very powerful. It's almost like, you know, not believing is believing, you know? I do have one phrase that I always say. What is it? What is it?

This is something I will give every. This is on the course that's covered in the 16-week course. but there is a famous quote that actually a lot of people don't know the origins but if you trace back and you look back you can actually find this in one of my grandfather's sermons your mom's side or your dad's side mom's side not Josh Rotary

so there's a famous quote and it goes it's better to have love he who he who he who he who mucks he who smelt it

he who smelt it he who smelt it dealt it He who smelt it, dealt it. That's from the Lockheed Martin guy. That came from the higher ups of Lockheed Martin. And that's the kind of shit. They're shaking all of your ideas.

They're scrambling your little heads, messing with you. And then meanwhile, you're a little pawn in this game, and they're doing such crazy. You can't even begin to imagine, Andrew. You can't even begin to imagine the shit these guys that Lockheed Martin are doing. I mean, are we in danger?

Oh, yeah. Are you in danger? Very much so. Do you have an exit plan? I have two. Can you share them? Okay, here's a thing. Are you familiar with AI?

A little bit. Okay. You know about ASI? KSI, this Twitch streamer? No, dude, ASI. Artificial Super Intelligence. No. There's AGI, artificial general intelligence.

So what you need to understand is the people who are the most concerned are guys like me, billionaires. Okay, we're fucking scared for our fucking lives, bro. Because the second the ASI, artificial super intelligence, is created, people's jobs are obsolete. People are fucking no idea what they're going to do with their time.

And guys like me, we're the fucking targets. So we're building bunkers underneath our ground. Okay, Zuck just built one. Are you buddies? Of course. We actually went to UFC. Dana gave us tickets. We had front row.

So me and Zuck, we both build bunkers. He did his in Kauai. Why do you think Musk is building a fucking rocket ship? It's not for fucking interest of keeping humanity alive other than him and his little grubby buddies. So will you not be a part of that? Hell no. The fucking level of the toxicities in the environment being expelled by these ships, bro. And this is the same shit that the folks at Amazon did.

The same shit. You know when they sent those astronauts up into the sky? for about 30 minutes. Yeah. Do you know how much waste was created, Andrew? I mean, a couple of... Bro, millions of gallons of water gone down the drain. For just one AI prompt, millions, bro.

Millions. And I'm not over-exaggerating. I take this very serious. I can tell. No, I know. I looked into the quantum engineering. I actually run a spa in New York where we heat the water up with Bitcoin mining. The computers are so warm.

We heat the water up that way. Just because we want to be good. good for the environment to use the electricity for something positive so people can use. And this is a public space, Andrew. Right. A spa. Precisely. So I'm trying to give back, you know. I'm not trying to get worked up here. I'm getting a little bit angry.

Yeah, you're getting a little heated. But I just, I'm just trying to give back because I don't want you to put me in the same breadth of a conversation with Musk, with Elon. But you are a billionaire. I mean, you're up there with you. Yeah, but that's no way here or there because I use my power for good. I know, but how much money have you been giving away? money or are you just keeping it?

I'm keeping it. But wait. When I die, I've created my foundation and this is factual. If you look up the public records, I have started my foundation, Dr. Oliver Trees' foundation for baby geniuses when I die,

every penny I have, every money that gets made from not just the music that I wrote for Oliver Tree, but the stuff I did for Gog or for Drake, for the entire industry, for, let's not forget when I made goosebumps by Travis Scott, okay? That's you. Yeah. I made humble by Kendrick.

Why, I produced some of the drums on it. But when my residuals come in, month after month, when I am continuously making this, when my dead body is still just in the earth, and I'll obviously be cryogenically frozen. But when I am sitting there in that cryogenic chamber, what will happen with the cash? All of it is going to go to Dr. Oliver Tree's Foundation for Baby Geniuses. every penny I make and I have a whole board of 16 people my closest collaborators while I'm alive all of them will be deciding and when they don't want to work on the committee anymore they have the chance to give their

role and their seat up to someone else to be a part of the chair but I have this all fully documented in your will and testament precisely Andrew man I got I gotta tell you every time I see you I learn more about you I learn more about the universe I mean I learn more about America I learn more about where we're going That's the other thing. I'm very patriotic. So I do intend to give some money back to the big war industry, which I didn't, I covered the big three, the big banks, big pharma. And also, what was the third?

You do, it's big banks, big labels. Big labels. But big war, that was my, that's where I really want to start. Big war. That's where I got started, Andrew. It's not just where I found myself as a business fan, but also as a politician, as internet personality. Right. funding the wars in the early 2000s.

You didn't have anything to do with September 11th, though. Can we wrap this up? Look into that camera. Say one word or one phrase. One word or a phrase to end the episode. In here, we pour whiskey, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger.

Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a fugitive. You won't be five dollars for the whiskey. $75 for the horse. Ginger's our hell now. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.