Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Petey USA

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

Petey USA (yes, that Petey from TikTok and the music scene) sits down with Andrew Santino and delivers everything—mad energy, dark honesty, and the kind of weird that just works. They talk about blowing up online, panic attacks in Whole Foods, making bangers in bathrobes, and why Petey might be the most real ass dude on the internet right now. Check out more Petey USA on: https://peteyswebsite.com 📺 Watch now and hit subscribe for more deep, weird, and funny convos every week on Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino. #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #ComedyPodcast #peteyusa ==================================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS PROPHETX USE PROMO CODE: WHSIKEY GET UP TO $300 IN PROPHET CASH https://getprophetx.co KICKOFF GET YOUR FIRST MONTH FOR $1 https://getkikoff.com/whiskey BETTER HELP 10% OFF YOUR 1ST MONTH https://betterhelp.com/whiskey ======================================= Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast https://twitter.com/whiskeygingerpodcast Produced and edited by Joe Faria https://www.instagram.com/itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What up Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. It's your first time joining the show. Welcome to the show. We got a good one for you today. Also, your boy is doing two remaining international shows with my good buddy, Bobby Lee. We're going to London and Dublin, London and Dublin, July 18th and 19th. Back to back, back to back. Come out and see us at BadFriendsPod.com or AndrewSantino.com. Also, I'm going to be putting up some tour dates.

I'm playing the Brea Improv. I think I'm doing SF Punchline. I'm jumping around, I'm starting to build this brand new hour because my new hour comes out September 12th I believe as of right now depending on how the date changes. But anyway go to andresantino.com or badfriendspod.com if you want to come see me and the Lee in London or Dublin. Let's go to the episode. In here we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. Oh that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like bad guys, the ginger gene is a curse.

Gingers are beautiful. You owe me five dollars for the whiskey and seventy-five dollars for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey of Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean once again today, it's Petey USA! You've got to be proud of that, dude. Yeah, you've got to be proud of having USA in your name at this and this juncture of America.

Yeah, dude. It's good right now, right? Yeah, it's awesome. It used to just be Petey, but now with the protests you added USA because you want to take a stand. Exactly. That's exactly right. I get it, man. For people that don't know, I was complimenting you before we started rolling. You're an incredible artist, musician, I would say a comedic talent and personality. I found you on the internet. I touched myself to a few of your videos. You're very sensual sexual Your piercing eyes the guy is very beautiful in person on the internet doesn't do him justice and You're funny, man. You're very good. I was saying I like I really like your stuff. Thank you very funny and now you're a bona fide

Touring musician which I guess I only knew you as kind of a comedic personality online. Yeah. That's kinda how you built the structure right? Yeah but I do I do a pretty bad job of bridging that gap and and letting people know what I'm doing. Why? I don't know. You gotta put it out there. It's not intuitive to me. Well do it right now. Tell them what you're up to. I'm a musician I play indie rock music and I also toured around the country and that's what I do. Perfect. What gave you the inspiration to start doing like comedic style sketches and songs and bits for the internet? COVID honestly. So yeah, so I had like a real shit job for a while. I was working at the mailroom at ICM Partners Italian agency.

Yuck dude. Yeah it was dude. Yuck. How many showers did it take to get rid of that scum on your body? Kind of a couple years worth. For people that don't know, ICM is a talent agency. They got swallowed whole by CAA, ate them alive. CAA, another monolithic conglomerate acronym-based sludge of talentless bottom feeders who eat off of our plates and beg you to tour and tour into the ground and disregard your mental health issues and your addictions so they can benefit. And then when you do publicly fall, they cannot wait to distance themselves from you. Sure, yeah, they represent me. Big, big shouts. Yeah.

Yeah. You're at CAA, that's who's got ya? Yeah. Good for you, dude. So you worked for them and now they work for you. It's kinda cool. That's a beautiful transition of life. Oh yeah, for sure.

It is, right? It's trippy, it's like, yeah, it's unbelievable. You just put out, the album you gave me off camera, is that a brand new album you just dropped? No, so those were my first two albums, Lean Into Life, which came out like at the very end of COVID, and then USA, which came out about two years ago, and then I'm about to release another album in a couple weeks.

It comes out in July, right? Yeah, July 11th. July 11th. Yeah. Just short of my favorite holiday, September 11th. Yeah. That's why we picked it. That's exactly right. Actually my special comes out on September 12th, the day after 9-11, which was deliberate. Cool. Yeah. Never forget. Just kind of get people... I'm a nostalgic guy and I want people to

be nostalgic when they think about my album. And we open up the special with, well, I shouldn't give it away, but it's a plane crash. It's a big, it's a whole thing. Cool. Yeah, and the opening sequence, the plane crashes, I'm the only one that lives. And I do a stand up show to the people that are not there anymore. Never forget. Never forget.

That's the name of the special, Never Forget. Never forgot. Don't forgot. Donnie Darko came out on September 11 2001 No, and no one saw it in theaters, and that's why it became like a cult classic later. Whoa that's true Yeah, so it's a good move. No. He's not true. He's saying that's not true Damn, what what came out what movies? Blueprint came on in September 11, Bob Dylan's 11 theft whoa

Two great albums what on September 11th? Jay-z's the blueprint came out on 9-eleven. Yeah, such a good album. Yeah, you don't like hip-hop, so that doesn't resonate for you What did you grow up listening to I grew up listening to pop punk music like blink 182 new found glory Like when I do you've you've toured with. Yeah. Which is, how crazy is that? Awesome. Unreal.

It's gotta be so surreal to have that kind of like come back again. Look, those that you work for, now they work for you. People that you're a fan of, now you work with them. Your life is kind of perfect. It's cool. Are you single? No, I'm married. I just got married last weekend.

Oh, last weekend. Whoa, dude. Thank you. All right got married last weekend. Oh, oh last weekend. Whoa, dude. Thank you. Alright, that's rad. Are you gonna, you guys are gonna make a family or are you just gonna do you two? I think we're gonna make a family. Good for you. Yeah, it's something I never would have done on my own. Yeah, you literally can't. Yeah, you actually can't.

Yeah, I mean you could, no that's not true. You could. You could adopt a kid. You could have a kid with a anonymous partner and just raise it by yourself. It's a new world. Totally. I wouldn't have done that. So it feels nice to be, it feels nice to have that. To find someone you love? Yeah, for sure.

And then sort of have that decided before, that was kind of like a pre-qualification. And I'm like, all right, let's strap in, let's do it. Might as well. Yeah. I noticed on your arm, let me see your forearm, on on your right forearm is there a Chicago flag on there, huh? Yeah, God bless cuz you were you were you raised in Chicago, but not born in Chicago No, I was born in Birmingham, Michigan Birmingham, Michigan, yeah, and then your parents realized they wanted to go somewhere legitimate. Yeah, they give you a real future

Yeah, totally so let's get them in Chicago. Exactly. You start music in the Chicago music scene Kind of yeah in high school. I was in bands and stuff. We got to you start music in the Chicago music scene? Uh, kind of, yeah. In high school I was in bands and stuff. We got to, you know, play in the city. Did you play the Beat Kitchen ever? Yeah, many times. I played there before. Yeah, it's a great, yeah. Did you ever play Fireside Bowl? No, that was the 21, that was like the hard 21. That's right, yeah, you can't be underage there. Yeah, so Beat Kitchen, got to play underage, Subterranean, uh, yeah, I'm doing my album release show at Metro. At the Metro? Yeah. One of the most famous venues for people that don't know. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. It's like, that's Chicago's finest. Yeah. Did you remember going

to see shows as a kid? Did you see a band that got big that you saw when they were pretty small in Chicago? I feel like this, I share this story with a lot of people. Yeah. I think like in the, in the pop punk world, especially especially seeing bands at Metro like that was a that was kind of like a mainstay like everyone toured there when I was in high school. Big time. So I saw like Say Anything there before they got really big. Yeah. I saw Death Cat for Cutie in Chicago before they got really big. Wow. But yeah I think the the access to seeing live music at really sick concert venues was almost more formative than being in bands.

Oh yeah, because it gives you this real kind of viewpoint of... I mean, it's a reality. You're like, oh, this is A, a possibility if I really want this thing. And it's tickling your fantasies of being a part of that thing. I think going to see stuff as a kid was so much more important to me than it is now and it's a bummer I want to go see more stuff now yeah but we have stuff yeah shit to do. I mean also like kind of like I I suffer from this thing where it's just like because I do it for a job like kind of like the smoke screen has been

eliminated like the mysticism of it all like I used to be, like, stay in concert venues and look up through the fog. These are like gods, you know? And then you see the back of a concert venue when you're doing it as your job, and kind of just seeing it, I don't know, it makes going to concerts less fun. Oh dude, I agree. It's the same thing, I hate comedy when people are like, oh do you like stand-up? I think it's the most disgusting, I hate it more than I've ever hated anything on Earth. I loathe it.

I'm not a huge fan of music these days. It kind of sucks, right? Music sucks, yeah. But good music's rad. Good music's awesome. Once in a while I find something that I really like in the comedic space. It's usually for me, to be honest, and I'm not kissing ass, it's something like what you do sometimes.

Like, you know, I've lived in stand-up for 20 years, so it's just different for me, just like you're saying. It's hard to explain. But when I see something like what you've created, or if I see a sketch that's kind of out of my world, that I gravitate to, because it's not what I'm used to. Right? Like it impresses me because we don't, I don't live in that section of comedy. Right. Right? It's kind of like some music may impress you because it's not your world of music.

Yeah. You know, something super alternative. You're like, oh, that's pretty rad. For sure. Yeah, I feel the same way. It's like the stuff that I can't even like wrap my head around how they were able to do it, because it's just so different than everything that I do. Yeah. Then that's stuff that gets me really excited.

Favorite band, least favorite band? Favorite band right now is Def Leppard. Yeah, I love Def Leppard. So you're getting a return to the old days, huh? Yeah. You're going backwards. I realized that I missed a lot. You did.

Well, you weren't alive. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, what can you do, man? Exactly. You ever heard of the Beatles? You're going to love these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're awesome.

They're pretty good. Def Leppard's cool, because I think I grew up thinking that they were just in like a hair metal band akin to like Poison or like a bunch of other bands that are like super corny. But if you listen to the album Hysteria, it's pretty awesome. It's classic. I understand you saying that you're inclined to think that they were maybe corny because of what you're maybe shown as a kid. Yeah. It's the same way I feel about Kiss.

Yeah. Like I loathe Kiss. Yeah. But I do understand that there is a very significantly large group of people who are like, no, no, they made good music. I just hated the characters. Yeah. I didn't like that.

They like pissed me off. You know what, Groin, I think my 30s have taught me that like a lot of stuff That's been really popular for a long time is actually super awesome. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, there's a reason for it like Hawaii The state of Hawaii. Yeah, okay rocks. Yeah, you know, okay, so you hated Hawaii I was just like I didn't hate Hawaii, but I think I just like had an image in my mind It's like this is just where like like white dudes go to play golf and that is true and yeah that is remarkably true and it's like maybe not gonna be like the coolest place to go on vacation because it's not like super adventurous or out there or whatever I

don't know I had like a cool guy thing about it right and then I went to Hawaii for the first time last year and I was like immediately like damn this is the sickest place ever. That's kind of what happens. I was like what else do rich people like? This is like, I gotta like figure out, I don't know. What else do these rich people enjoy? I think I might enjoy some of this as well. I think so, yeah. I'm gonna talk to you and a year from now you're gonna be flying private. He's like that was whack it turns out. It's awesome That's this yeah, yeah, not everything that rich people like is cool But a lot of times when you dabble in the things get that that they do massively popular things it is massively popular

There's a reason it's a little animal Disneyland is fun No, that one. I'm gonna fight you. Yeah. Yeah, that one's that one's insane. I'm not going there I don't I love it 41 years old. It was the last time you've been with my nieces a decade ago. Oh gotcha Yeah, I have to be with a child to go to a thing like that gotcha I think a child would ruin my experience at a thing like that. I'm glad you're gonna have a kid with this new wifey Yeah You're gonna love it. They're gonna fuck up all of your shit Yeah, baby, maybe you don't like anything that you own cuz they're gonna it's theirs no I don't like anything I don't that's the

something about me too I don't have any stuff no as I mean fucking anything to me good um that's cool and basically I'm just really not hiking and like looking looking for shit outside which I think is pretty good for like toddler toddler toddler stuff explore anything in the exploration world. Yeah, I'm excited to do that and like see it through a new lens. I like that too. I wanna see this journey for you. Yeah, sure, I'll document it on Instagram.

My whole life. As you do. Now did you start making a living on Instagram and TikTok and stuff and that was giving you the ability to jump ship? It was kind of like, I've always just like gone for the thing that I knew that could pay me so the first thing was music so I was like working that shit job and then I was able to secure like an indie deal that

I got an advance for and the advance was only $17,000 but I was only making $31,000 at the time so I was like okay I can irresponsibly leave but I can leave yeah and figure out how to make up the extra 12 right and so I left the job and then COVID hit right away and so then I was just like crashing at my friend's house through that and then we were making TikTok videos every day the TikTok thing blew up and then as the 17 grand was sort of dwindling ad deals started coming in and that was before like companies like really knew what was up with TikTok which I think now they like maybe think

like the juice isn't worth the squeeze but uh on the early days they really kind of shell in and out. Oh well yeah they were because they were they didn't like know what it was. They thought this was going to be the thing. Yeah. And it is to a degree it's just now it's in in date now there's a lot of noise. For sure. But I hit it at the right time. You did. And then I signed at the talent agency right out as I was doing it so I actually have people like brokering those deals for me which is really cool it's way it's so funny when you have someone else doing that for you the person who is kind of just like well I guess we have to do it I don't know it just like legitimizes thing in a way

that's still totally fake but yeah bullshit but it's it's a adult bullshit exactly so I started living off that that sort of replaced the music thing and then COVID started drawing doing down and place the music thing and then covid started going down and then the music thing city and back up and then i stand up major label deal and then who's the label by capital russi yeah big building to take you to the building

no the building was under construction what a crock of shit yeah i'm happy about that because i don't like that i don't like how many are like the big conference room with like a Bunch of you know, don't say you're all say yeah. I do you see him almost say it. He almost said it I watched him almost say it. That's crazy 23 year old Yeah, they like 23 year olds. I get it dude gross cut it out Yeah, this guy's fighting the Illuminati today. No, I get what you're saying. You don't like the whole show. I don't. Yeah, it's a lot. Because I worked at ICM

long enough to realize that it's meaningless. Right. You mean everything? Life. Yeah. Everything is pretty meaningless. Just like a lot of the showbiz stuff. I don't know. It's like disheartening to see how things work and why they work. I think it's just because you're in this business, right? I would argue that all businesses are meaningless and bullshit. You couldn't name me a business that your friends do that's worth anything unless it's helping humans. Right. Unless it's literally helping humans.

Yeah, if you get to the bottom of everything, everything's true. Most things are bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah, insurance is bullshit, sales sales is bullshit marketing's bullshit yeah it's all just like a spinning wheel of capitalism in sure helping humans insurance though feels like bullshit going in so at least you know yeah they're all going right it's like I was getting we don't pretend broken by like a bad job that's right you know yeah we don't pretend to not be fake when someone's like everyone LA is

fake you're like yeah but we know but we know, but you know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we are, LA is insurance. Yeah, exactly. You know going in it's awful. Yeah. Big deal. Get over it. Yeah. Right? How do you like living here? It's dog shit. Yeah. No, no, no, I like it. No, I've been here, I've been here, like I said, for 20 years and, um, you know, my time has come to an end. Yeah. I've been saying this for a little bit too long now but I have to have an exit strategy with my wife, like we're working out a way that we can leave. Cause people are like, just fucking move.

You're like, well if anything was that easy, there's a lot going on. So like, I do think we put a timestamp on when we're gonna go and we are gonna go eventually. Where are you gonna go? I don't know, man, and even if I did, I wouldn't tell you, you know, because I don't trust you.

No, I think we don't know yet. We don't really know, you know? We get pitched a lot of different stuff. We hunt for places. We have a few places we really, really like. Where do you like? I can't, again, there's no chance I'll tell you, dude. I'll tell you off camera where we like.

Sure. But I just feel like there's, just, we want of super escape From this world because we've lived here for a while. Yeah, I love LA. I do. I'm a big LA fan. Mm-hmm but um, you know, I think like I Like I took the last I've taken a lot of rides and I'm kind of like, you know I know where this one goes sure. Yeah, so I kind of ready for something a little bit different You know a little bit unique you know the only unique but

then again i wake up i walk the dog and i drink a cup of coffee in the sun in the morning it's fucking rat yeah it's pretty rad yet a lot what do you say a lot of things are super popular turn out to be pretty fucking rad yeah l.a.'s you know everyone hates on a bill it's pretty wrong around exactly the beach of the mountains you know it's a short drive up to the canyons to get completely away you go out to the desert in an hour and a half and you one day i went up to the mountains you know it's a short drive up to the canyons to get completely away you go out to the desert in an hour and

a half and you one day i went up to the mountains and then went down to the desert and had uh... snow snow sand nice pretty incredible that i know guys that do a snow surf day they're they go skiing in the morning and then they make it to start a vice versa they stay surf in the morning and they ski by the afternoon i mean the access to everything is great it's pretty incredible. Yeah.

It's better than Chicago in terms of weather wise. Yeah. But Chicago has a lot more culture that I miss. Yeah. People, friendships, community, that kind of stuff. Yeah. The white people culture in Chicago is unparalleled. The white people culture?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's only just like LA, like the black culture in LA. Careful. Insane. Awesome. Yeah. I was just going to say. Yeah. Twice I thought he was going to go down a dark road. culture in LA, insane. Awesome. Yeah, okay, I was just going to say twice I thought he was going to go down a dark road.

No, no, no. Korean culture, amazing. That Latino culture, awesome. Yeah, there I'm with you. Yeah. White people culture in LA specifically, not the best. They don't really have one here. Right.

Yeah, yeah. It's identityless. Right. Everyone's just, so there is here, right? Yeah, yeah, it's identity. Right everyone's just so there is a right you're what you're saying is What I hear PD USA saying is that white lives matter is what he's saying and he wants to bring it back to a white Did you hear that he said? What he said was he wants a white dominated culture again till we will rise is what he's no I'm just saying I appreciate all the like all the different cultures in LA But I'm not I'm not trying to like roll up and like blow up the spot like with my friends

You know I mean there is no one wants that no one wants my culture here. Yes I know what okay, so the white culture in Chicago is what to you. It's like the best sports culture. I've ever seen yes Yeah, it's on the best bar culture. I've ever seen correct and That's kind of Correct. And that's kinda it. Yeah. Just watching sports and getting drunk. Sports and drunk, yeah.

Well like that's, what else do you got? No, there's not much else to life, honestly. We talked a little bit before the show. That's fun. We're not having anything to drink today. I'm a little, I got to have to dry out. Yeah. People are always, how come you don't have

a cocktail on the show? Well dude, I gotta dry out sometimes. Yeah. And I had a little bit of a run in New York and, you know, we had a little party with family and one thing leads to another and they own the bar and it's like when they own the bar, it's, you're done. When someone you know owns the bar. Yeah. New York is tough in particular because it's just like, I mean, it's so like so stimuli like Overload like I feel like and the bars are so cool, and they're like drawn in and it's so loud

I'm just like you have to get really fucked up there like every night Yep, and it's always with a meal and so I just end up having acid reflux for like 11 days And I got it right now. Yeah, it's awful. Yeah, and I just want to end up just like crawling out of there I'm never leaving New York like wanting to stay right any longer that's why you can't have a morning flight from New York you got to get an afternoon flight when you leave yeah a couple extra hours of let me pull my shit together totally totally hang on hungover hangover flights are the worst thing in the world oh yeah having to fly hungover I've had to do that from Chicago a couple of times. Yeah. Just really awful. Yeah. Really awful. Yeah. I started to get really heady

about it too. Not until now did I start thinking about how absolutely insane flying is. Just like being in an airplane. Yeah. It's really nuts. It's absurd, yeah. And I like, I can't believe people have been doing it for that long and not really talking about how it crazy it is like in the sixty i don't know it's just a little more than i thought i would like there was way more accidents you know yeah yeah yeah like that was the most policy should we used to fly back in a day it was a little bit more of like a will say

it just doesn't make sense the whole thing doesn't make sense i don't know it's been kind of tripping me out from a scientific point of view it does make perfect sense yeah but i know you're so i've flown a paper yeah you get it you understand left yeah you get that but i get it it's fucking like this thing is heavy yeah it's heavy it's how does it stay up yeah how does a boat float i get it yeah i get what wrecks your brain yeah but then i wait you see mission impossible i pretend like i'm on a literal spaceship and that the air is just word in space, which is technically true. You are. Do you smoke weed? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. In here, we pour whiskey. Hey, if you're like

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Wife no smoke? No, she doesn't. Me, wife no smoke. Wife no smoke? No, she doesn't. Me wife no smoke. So you smoke alone. Yeah. And does she enjoy that part of your life or is that something that's like, you do that, I don't like it? No, it's fine.

She doesn't care? She doesn't care. Right. Yeah, kind of makes no difference. Yeah, I mean, as long as it doesn't change you as a person. No. And it doesn't. No.

Do you smoke every day? When I have it, I'm kind of just like, if something's right in front of me, I'll do it. But if it's not in front of me, then I'll forget that it exists. I love that this sounds like an AA meeting. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if it's in front of me, I'm going to consume it. There's no doubt, whether it's drugs or alcohol. I understand this feeling. Kind of true. Yeah, if it's right there, it's tough. With drugs and stuff too, it's just like if I, and it's easy in LA because it's not, LA for me is not a party town. No, it's not. Well, you have to go make it a party town.

Exactly. It's not inherently a party town. Exactly. I don't make things a party, like I don't seek it out, but if the party is right in front of me. It's gotta come to you. Whatever it is, I'll usually do it. Ah, anything. Not anything. What do you say no to?

I would say no to? I would say no to doing heroin for sure. Really? Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Don't... Yeah, we have it. We thought... Yeah. We didn't know. I saw the shirt. I was like, he's gonna be down. Oh, no. But he's not, dude. No. Yeah, H is tough. I don't think you're getting past H a lot. I don't think... I've never been to a party where someone's like, dude, you wanna ride?

No. You wanna catch the horse? I don't think you're getting past age a lot. I don't think, I've never been to a party where someone's like, dude, do you want to ride? No. You want to catch the horse? I think doing prescription painkillers recreationally was a really, really popular thing. And those are opioids. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty similar. So I've done that before, but I reacted negatively to being high on narcotics, which is really

great for me. Yeah. But I couldn't pee when I was on Vicodin. Like it would paralyze my bladder. Really? Yeah, I just like couldn't do it. So I was like, no matter how good I feel, like I'm not dealing with this. You physically, you felt like you had to pee,

but you couldn't pee? Yeah. Like literally like, I think like my urethra is paralyzed. Oh wow. Yeah. Good name for a band. Paralyze urethra. What's up, we're Paralyze Eurythra. What's up, Park

Higgin? But I do think it's a blessing. Yeah. Get you away from that. Yeah, totally. So not every day smoke weed, but every day. Every day that I have it. Yeah, so that's every day. Every night, yeah.

Every night. That I have it. No edibles? No, because I like to have control- Me too. Through mechanisms, like vessels that just like make sense to me. Right.

You know, just like I'll take like three, I'll just take like three hits of a joint and like, then like blast off. Like I don't have a high tolerance for that or anything. No one does anymore. The weed is made joking with, you know, it's comical at this point. Yeah. It's like so absurd. I've, when I was a kid, I used to be able to smoke a joint to myself and that was like

a fun thing to do. For sure. If I smoke a whole joint to myself a joint to myself and that was like a fun thing to do. For sure. If I smoke a whole joint to myself now, I'm in a bad way. Well it's also like something happened where it's like when I would smoke weed in high school, like the only thing that you have to worry about are just like your parents and the cops. And you don't have enough knowledge to know how weird the world is to like freak you out And then this thing happens where you just like learn about shit, and you smoke weed As an adult and you get really high and you start worrying about everything you start worrying about your parents and the cops in a completely Different existential way. Yeah, especially because my dad is a cop then it gets oh, yeah

He's not a cop Like oh there's more things to be when you're young You're afraid of parents and cops your world is so small you think about why do how do airplanes fly? Yeah, that's scarier Yeah, yeah physics and mechanisms and so much could go wrong. Yeah that plane just crashed in India. Yeah, it's crazy That's fucking nuts and one guy lived. Yeah, did you see that guy? I did he looked fine He did. Yeah, it was kind of why I was like this guy does not look like he got into a plane fucking crash nuts and one guy lived yeah did you see that guy I did he looked fine he yeah it was kind of why I was like this guy does not look like he got into a plane fucking crash yeah I don't know speaking clearly he was by the exit door and one

how guilty would you feel if you're the only guy that lived I guilty I don't know if guilty story guilt wouldn't weigh heavy on you that like why you why did you have to why did you get to live and everybody had to die? For some reason that doesn't pop up. Wow. So you're super self-indulgent. So self-involved. I would just be so freaked out in general that I don't think I would be capable of feeling

a actual feeling. Of guilt because you survived. Because survivor's guilt, you know, this is a real thing. People feel awful when they get in a car accident and someone else dies and they live you know who's to say who's to say you are you can yeah I would feel awful I don't know I believe I was dead yeah he died my brain processing I already believe I'm dead you think you're dead yeah I've never seen you more alive oh cool that's good that's good Why do you think you died already?

Because life is so good that you can't believe it? Sometimes. I think that like my life was going real bad and- It was going real bad? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just- Like you mean work, your shitty job? I couldn't get out of this fucking rut that I was in and I was like, I'd committed to

that. You were gonna be a rut guy. Yeah. I was just like, I'm I had committed to that you know I was gonna be a rut guy yeah I was just like I'm gonna be a loser forever it's kind of rad though too a little bit yeah I think the acceptance of it kind of turned me around but I got COVID really bad like one of the first cases of anyone that I knew like straight up like January before it was like before it was a hit yeah before it was a hit yeah you like that band before anybody else knew it yeah yeah and then I had it for like 10 days and there was certain

Times when I was going to bed and I was like, I'm not gonna wake up and that's fine I feel like you were gonna die. Yeah We're not like I was like we weren't it wasn't in the news I wasn't talking about it and I was talking about it. You felt so sick I just felt so sick like could not I was like this is something different But I didn't know what it was. And then I got over it, and then my life started going great. Great.

So, I think there is part of me that thinks I may have died of my sleep and shifted timelines or whatever. Or it's exactly what you needed to get you back on track. Totally. Thank you, China. Can you say that under the camera? Thank you, China. Thank you, China, for all that you've done for us.

You scared us into oblivion and you gave PDUSA a career. Yeah. Thank you. I mean... I mean, not no. You should go pay homage. You should go back to... COVID was a big win for me. COVID was a big W. Oh my God.

A lot of people took a loss. You took a big win. Big time. No, it was everything. It was everything. Damn, repping Wuhan hard, dude I'm a real like distracted Like thought loopy Neurotic guy that's just really affected by my environment, right? And so it's like as soon as I knew like what it was gonna be I'm like what was gonna happen and it was gonna be like that for a while and just like quiet and everyone's kind of

Staying inside no one's gonna work. I like I was kind of like oh damn. I'm gonna like absolutely crush this you were stoked for that Oh, yeah, that's cool Dude, it did help. I mean it helped You know me and Bobby Lee show bad friends grew because of kovat because people were at home people were watching it Yeah, people were just inside and we were providing another form of entertainment like just like what you did It was like here's a form of entertainment You can watch every single week to get through a shitty week if you're having a shitty week Right and we did it to kind of keep ourselves entertained

Yeah, it was like him and I wanted to do a project together and then we were just like Well great. We can just do this the whole time that we can't go work anyway Right, we might as well create new entertainment on the internet Yeah, and it just kind of it worked kind of worked. So I also thank Wuhan. Thank you Wuhan. Thank you. Thank you Wuhan. Very much appreciate it.

Okay, be honest, as a Chicago boy, you see these, look at these couple. Isn't that nice? It's the best flag. It's the best flag of all the flags. It's the greatest flag. It's got a lot of white in it. It's a, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's Trump said that. I didn't say anything. It's a it is a great it's such a great city, although the never ending debate, this this this asinine debate about. You know, deep dish pizza. Mm hmm. Do you like it?

I do very much. Yeah. Do you do you do like tavern style pizza? You know, square cut round tavern style pizza? You know? Square-cut round tavern style thin crust. That's Chicago. That's actually Chicago. That's Chicago I mean, I'm like Lou Malnati's and I like your big Lou's guy. Yeah, no Giordano's for you, right? Lou's all the way and the pizzeria Uno, Pizza Uno was the thing that everyone kind of pushed on me outside of Chicago People would ask about it. I was like we didn't even like that shit as a kid, right? Yeah, I give a fuck about I get the same

thing it was in the frozen aisle yeah that's how I saw it in my mind these days it's loser piquats and like that was is the best well piquats you can get tavern style pizza yeah but you never get it you like the deep I like to do you like to go deep well you're skinny you could handle it yeah wait till you get fat dude wait you become a fat lazy dad I'm trying I'm trying to I've been trying to put away my entire life I just start taking creatine that's cute and I using chat chvt to work out what is it telling you everything good it's fucking awesome you're just telling me tell me what to do today yeah and then it tells you I told him my goal is like what I want I was like I want to get to

like 170 by like X amount of time and this is what like I've kind of been doing like I should I like dial in my routine and it's got me on a six day a week regimen and I'm sore and it's working. So you're working out every day? Six days a week. Yeah. It's almost every day. Yeah. Give or take. I mean God's day you got to take off because you're going to church every Sunday. Exactly. Yeah. I do three on three, three on one off. Three on one off. Yeah. Wow. Are you doing cardio? Are you doing weightlifting?

What are you doing? Weightlifting, like a push day, pull day, and then a leg day. Damn, dog, you're going, you're doing it. Yeah. Somebody wants to be buffed at it, huh? Because I trust the fucking AI. You trust the AI.

I really do. That's how it begins. It's doing me right. You think this is potentially dangerous for our future, or this is all good, who cares? Sure, but like, I can't do anything about it, so I might as well just get my body right You know I know I had the same conversation with my physical therapist this morning We talked about this when we were working out. I was like

Cuz he's like why did you just search that you could just ask chat GPT, and I thought I don't know man I just feel feel like I'm doing analog. I'm I can't go digital yet. I just can't go all the fucking way Something about it scares me. I mean I know it's real it's already here i can but there's something about it's like saying uh... i know i can do nothing about it but it but my little part makes me happy right out of it you never get change the climate you know when somebody's like climate change is real and yet global warming your're like sure dude, right?

You'd have to talk to fucking Exxon Mobil to help out. Yeah, you'd have to stop the the the the trillions of Pounds of waste that are being foisted into the air. Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna change it Yeah, but I still fucking recycle. Yeah, you know I mean, yeah, that's how I feel about chat GBT. I'm like I Guy, I know it's already there, but it's like I still don't want to do it. I still I'm still chat GBT, I'm like, I know it's already there, but I still don't want to do it. I'm still not in. I think I'm like, this is so obviously not... This is it. It's over.

Oh, you don't think it's over? Oh no, I think like life is over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just gonna like get like really good at cooking and try and get jacked. Fuck yeah. Yeah. I mean honestly, that's genuinely, I get it. I'm texting it like 18 times a day about like I was just like I'm gonna get smart I'm gonna do all

the things that I was never able to do because like I have like a learning disability or whatever. You do? Oh yeah school is not good for me. What was your learning disability? What was your disability? Just I don't know I just like needed extra time on shit. Oh okay. Yeah never officially diagnosed. Let's do it today. Yeah, give me a learning disability test No, yeah, he looked up for a hot second. My column was like, ooh, we've done stuff like this before I was taking math and like in the basement with the emotionally disturbed kids now Were you emotionally disturbed or you just didn't absorb knowledge as well? I just didn't absorb knowledge as well, but you seem like a super well-adjusted adult. Sure. Yeah, this didn't affect you in a negative way

I just think whatever intelligence that's that school requires like I don't have that like specific me neither I wasn't good in school but you have but you but but you you're very articulate and you are intelligent so clearly this is the problem with school in America in general and I can only speak for America mm-hmm I was so fucking bad in school and they would always say the same thing. I don't know if this applies to you. They would say, man, if he could just focus his energy,

he'd be good. But I wanted to make stuff or talk about stuff or fuck with shit. I wanted to like feel something. And I felt like school was without feeling. It felt numb. School was very numb. But like when I disrupted the class

and told a story that I heard, or I did something to like energize people, that gave me life, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Did they put you on like Adderall or anything? No, it's interesting, they tried, right? My mother refused. Same?

Yeah, my mom was like, I don't want my kid on some bullshit. God bless him. He's a kid. Yeah, he's a fucking too much of a kid. Some kids are quiet. Some kids are rambunctious. Some, you know, like some kids are fat.

Some kids are skinny. Like I think the idea that everyone should be the same. And by the way, this is a very philosophical conversation because I think this applies to adulthood as well. The idea that we should all think and feel the same about everything is fucking crazy. That's fucking crazy. We shouldn't.

Politically, socially, economically, whatever you want to feel. I think I may not like how you feel, but I don't like this idea that we should all feel one way about it. We all agree that's wrong, right? It's like, shut up. What do you mean? Unless it's fucking so extreme. Murder.

It's like, well, and by the way, what did, you know, what did the guy do to deserve it? Right. What did he do to deserve it? Could you ever murder? No. Never. Which is good because- What if somebody hurt your wife? I couldn't, I don't think I could murder. No way. Somebody, someone attacked your wife and he got up in your face and he goes, what are you going to do about it, it PD USA? Oh, yeah, I'd murder him There it is. I knew I was waiting for it dude. Yeah, I was hoping he would say that. Yeah. All right Well, I hope that never happens to you I hope you never have to encounter somebody who hurt your wife so much that you have to murder them I hope so, but if you do murder somebody, will I help you get out of it? I don't know. Yep. Thank you

Yeah, thank you. Oh, okay. Basement Brothers got to stick together, dude. That makes me feel better. I never had this experience that you're having, but I did have friends that were in this world. And all I saw them as was people that hated school. Yeah. Well, I think you just hate the things that you're bad at as a kid. And it's just like, I just, I don't know, I couldn't wake up at seven o'clock and start learning math at fucking eight o'clock while I got four hours of sleep. Even if I got eight hours of sleep,

I fucking hate math. Yeah. What if I hate math? Yeah. That's like the first question every kid should be like, so what if I hate math? Yeah. Mrs. Miller, what if I fucking hate math?

Yeah. Isn't that okay? Right. And the idea, this is such a cliche joke, but when I was a kid, in the early 1800s, the big joke was always, well you better learn your multiplication and division and blah blah.

You're not gonna have a calculator in your pocket all day. The fuck I'm not. Now I got something that's gonna teach me how to cook and get jacked. Yeah. Fuck you, Miss Miller. You didn't know shit, bitch. Back to the AI thing. Rest in peace.

She died, by the way. Miss Miller's gone. She's way gone. Rest in peace. I feel good now because it's just like I've been able to make a career out of the creative shit and kind of like going outside the box and like the normal regiment and stuff, but I always would get frustrated with myself by not being able to do the the normal path type of shit which really nice now is that I can just like ask AI a bunch of

questions on how to like be a normal person. Ah, you're doing pretty fine. And it's not it makes me feel real good. How to be normal by AI. Yeah, how to fucking cook and how to like grocery shop and like how to but don't you always being abnormal is kind of a good Quality it's probably why you're so artistic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right So you want some of that abnormality to stay you don't want to normalize yourself to where you're like an average guy who? Does the average thing know but just basic survival stuff?

I'm talking about like I couldn't like shop like go grocery shopping like I get overwhelmed I get like you know I mean stuff that like I need like lists made for me and I need calendars and I need like structure in order to like do day-to-day tasks I understand this is good that people exist and things exist to do you have a manager I've got a manager for sure but even but even like day-to-day like life admin stuff like I would frustrate people around me by just like not being able to like take care of myself and and i can only way so i don't even like asking too many questions like i would always ask ask

questions first figure it out later asking and i'm just asking chat you do you think you're asking something um... what she when didnie Darko come out in October yeah my whole life believe in that yeah and that's and that's the one thing that they did change the marketing because it featured it was all about the plane crash and stuff so at that it yeah it screwed it over in the box office gotcha what I wanted it already had a limited release because it released in January at Sundance

And then it got a wide release on October 26 Ah, so September 11th did fuck with it They don't want to default with it because when it initially premiered it got you know some good hype and then when it got people Didn't they didn't distribute turns out September 11th fucked with a lot of stuff Yeah, it wasn't really a good point in our in our history and every time I go to New York And I see that the one World Trade Center mm-hmm I do think of what the imagery was like when there was two buildings and I don't think one was enough we should have built two again yeah don't we build two I don't know you built one to make up for two

that those that means they win yeah yeah they won we should have built three we should go fucking three totally actually we should have built two small two on ones, one big one, and then two on the other side. Just a big middle finger. Right? Point it right back at them to say, try it again, bitch. It's never been more obvious that in the aftermath of September 11th, the big winners were the Middle East. The big winners.

Yeah. The big winners. Yeah. it's clear as day. Clear as day. George W. Bush, thank you Doggie. Please hit the link below for George W. Bush's 9-11 paintings we're selling. Code is whiskey. Have you seen Bush's paintings by the way? You know he's a big painter. Do you know about this? I, that was a thing, he paints dogs right? He likes dogs. Uh-huh. Oh man, that's so funny. What's the first thought I had? What's the first thought I had about paintings of dogs? Come on. You should know you're a film guy. This dog's looking at

The guy looking this way the dogs looking this way, you know what this is good fellas. There's a great painting There's a great painting in the scene in in good. So anyway, I love that movie It's a great movie that movie perfect movie departed perfect movie Just rewatched the town the town bad movie didn't like it doesn't add up. I used to like it I actually was like this movie's awesome. I remember as a kid we watched it. It's bad. Well, you know what it's like it's It's gratuitous yeah, which I think is part of the point of it. Yeah, right the storyline itself Right. Yeah, not great. You're right and like Ben FX vibe I just like didn't buy I didn't buy him as like a tough guy gangster a tough guy gangster

That's also just like really sensitive and then just like also kills people. I don't know It just did the whole thing like didn't work. I understand there was one scene where like the love interest, the girl was just like, what like what happened with your mom? And he opens the story would just be like, it was the sound that woke me up. It's just like tries to be all like storyteller-y about it. It's like this guy guy would do that you know i would be like my mom left i don't know i'd just i i don't like you like it yeah i get it then is actually a big fan of the show

uh... that is that putin it's one of the bush is a lot of people bush paints putin as well and who is that left him is that uh... is that ellen degenerates you imagine he paints like dictators in an alan the f-fucking a bunch of old dictators and then also Ellen. Yeah, no, I understand the town is not your vibe. Departed, very, very good though. I mean, I could watch that movie every day.

Best character in The Departed, who? Leo. Really? That's how I want to die, yeah. You don't think it's Frank Costello? No. Leo, for sure. Wow.

Yeah. You don't think it's Frank? Mm-mm. I think it's Leo, for sure. Wow, you think Leo's a better actor. Oh No But I just think he's a good character. I She felt funny. I think he's so good in that movie. That's probably one of the best movies. I think he's ever made

Mm-hmm. Yeah, Leo's good, but I but Leo's very Leo. Yeah that movie. Yeah, and I guess the reason I like The depiction of Frank Costello is that in that movie. Yeah. And I guess the reason I like the depiction of Frank Costello is that Jack just did something so different in that movie. It was really weird. It was, yeah, like he was comical. When he was making fun of the priests in that scene, when he slides them, it's just there's something about

he was so not how he usually is that I loved it. Leo's pretty consistently Leo. He's the best actor probably of our generation. But a lot of people do say that is turning point in Leo's career Yeah, well more pretty boy and after that he's the more yeah, but he was still a pretty tough boy, dude He was still a hot guy who was tough I like Leo in that movie because I think about the Character and the stakes of his life like when I get like really nervous because I get stage fright you do oh Oh big time so before you go on front of a big crowd you get nervous. Yeah, how big?

played I played Stadiums but played in front of 60,000 people opening for blank fuck you up. Oh, yeah big time It all fucks me up, and it hasn't gotten any ones Yeah, the tiny ones are worse because they're like it's just people right in front. What do you do to curb the anxiety? I think about Leo and the departed and the type of stakes in his life and how nervous he must have been all the time. And then I think about my situation and I feel like a pussy in a way that's motivating and good.

You're not a pussy. Thank you. You're human. Thanks, yeah. Next time you get nervous, ask ChatGBT how you should deal with it. Oh, I do, yeah. What does it say? Ask it right now. Yeah, next time you get nervous ask chat GBT how you should deal with it. Oh, I do. Yeah, what does it say? Uh, I

Right now I asked it last night. I was just like I'm with my peeing too much Am I peeing too much? Yeah at night. I was like, how do I deal with this? How many times you pee at night? Um, like twice enough to like fuck up my whole night. You wake up twice to pee Yeah, and I'm drinking water before 10 p 10pm? I don't know, well this creatine is making me piss a lot. Creatine will make you pee a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I asked him how to deal with it and it gave me some pretty good steps. It was just like it's not a big deal. A lot of people deal with this. Don't worry about it. It's all in your head. Yeah. Here's a couple steps, which is nice. Stop being a bitch. Yeah. That's

basically what it said. Kind of, yeah, but in a very tender, tender way. So does it speak to you? Do you have it talk to you? No, no, I just have it. I like the ones that talk. I think that's even scarier. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. It's coming. For sure. I'm not worried about it. I'm excited. You're excited to invest in the future. Yeah. Good for you, dude. This is the end, though. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna go both ways. I'm gonna like, gonna go all in on AI and then also just like, get rid of my, just like have a disconnect from material goods, like live out in the woods, but also have AI. Live out in the woods with AI? Yeah. And just get rid of the center. It's like I need, I want to live in the

woods, but I need fiber. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I get it. You're going to need good Wi-Fi if you're going to use AI in the woods, but I need fiber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I get it. You're gonna need good Wi-Fi if you're gonna use AI in the woods. That's true. See, I understand this getting away thing. In fact, I do think all these years we mocked bunker people, you know, doomsday people.

Now more than ever. I'm about it. They're real. 25 years ago, I was like, shut the fuck up, dude. Now you're like, hey, where's that bunker again? I might wanna go. Do you feel like shit's way fucked up right now, like more than it's ever been,

or do you just feel like that's kind of the news, and it's just like Instagram and- I think this is the same as ever. I think the internet gives us more weight to things that are happening. I mean, here's the biggest joke of all, is like the LA riots that were happening downtown because of this Kings protests all this yeah Yeah, you want to say yeah, right in an inflated storyline. It's media, so it's gonna be bigger than you think right, but there but meanwhile

Right on the other side of the world is like true war bombs like that's the chef death death all day long Yeah, yeah, so it's just kind of crazy that you're like this This isn't as real as we think it is, which means, my point being, it's always been this fucked up. Right. You just have to see it now. Mm-hmm. So, you know, by the way,

while there's bombs being dropped and people dying, someone is still going down a slide somewhere. Right, right, yeah. You know, like somewhere someone is on, a kid is on a swing. Yeah. And somewhere someone is sitting on a surfboard, stoned, ready for the morning ride. Yeah.

And someone else is at a funeral. So it's like, the world is always collapsing. Yeah. But it's also renewing. Yeah. And the birth rates are low, which means we are going to die out, which is kind of sick. You know, we started the end. Yeah.

It's cool to watch. I don't know about that part. You don't know about that? No. Yeah, the birth rates are very low. In fact, I think we're reaching like Japan and maybe it's China or Japan has like the lowest birth rate they've had in a long, long time. Our birth rates are down.

It's pretty, I think it's supposed to be pretty scary. So they say, right? What is it about China's birth rates are bad? I mean, it looks like a lot of China US they're all down yeah they're all way way down shoot yeah this is dangerous this is why you should be impregnating your your spouse okay please dude get out of here go go do it now cool think about this show while you're doing it later wait do you have a kid no kids no kids no no kids no kids I don't have a penis I cut it off six or seven months ago

it's actually framed in the office there. You know how Notre Dame football players, they hit that sign, play like a champ? Everyone's supposed to hit the penis on the way into the studio. That's cool. I'm jealous. I think that's where my pee thing comes from. Sometimes I'm like, do I actually have to pee or do I just have a penis? You just have a penis. And sometimes it needs to just... it's trying to talk. Sometimes it just wants to have a conversation. Penises get lonely too, bud.

Yeah, totally. Yeah, 100%. So tell us, say this, plug this album that's gonna come out, because this show, we'll try to parallel it when the album drops. And what's the name of the album, by the way? The album's called The Yips. The Yips? Wow, why is it called The Yips? It's just the sports term, when you just lose your cognitive ability to do something that you've always been able to do right you just fucking lose it mentally you think

many people in your in your fan base would understand where that comes from totally okay yeah oh I'm big depressed white guy those are my guys sick yeah yeah that's another 30s because we call you you don't like golf I heard that at the beginning I don't like golf but I mean I love baseball golf is a big turn yips is a huge term in golf yeah when you have the yips when you're chipping it you like stall before you hit the ball yeah it's really weird it doesn't your brain it's kind of scary yeah cuz you're like I can't believe I can't do this thing this thing that I've always done before for sure so I'm kind of like taking that concept and just applying it to general life vibes.

And we kind of like created this like world in a bar. It's supposed to be like a Northern Wisconsin bar. Like up here like Rhinelander area. Love Scani bars. Yeah, the best, the best. And so it's like the place that you go to when you have the yips and you get drunk by yourself and try and get yourself out of it. And so it's like a weird sad also cathartic world cool it's fun yeah well you like getting drunk by yourself uh no the last time I did that was two months ago and then I decided to stop

drinking for two months good yeah you're gonna keep it going cuz you're working out exactly you want to see how you see how and see how in shape and healthy you can get and then have a kid yeah and then how out of shape and unhealthy you can get when you have a kid sure it's kind of the goal sure that's the American dream even chat GBT would agree with definitely yeah get fat yeah you'll eat what they eat you won't have time for exercise or creative activities yeah I'm gonna be nice to hear it sounds like permission. Yeah, cool get fat. Yeah Fuck math. Yeah, get fat. Yeah. Yeah, I think that is the fighting that is the future is

Is cleaning out ourselves a little bit more. I think we got to do that in bigger spouts Yeah, no, I need to do it for sure big time. I think that's where the yips come from by the way Totally I think they come from and just clogging our system up with bullshit. Totally. Your clear mind won't allow it. You got the Chicago thing too, where it's just like, I don't think there's a region in the world that celebrates poisoning yourself as much as... They're great at it. Yeah. Wisconsin's pretty close. Minnesota's not far off. I think everywhere in the Midwest, because we dealt with such terrible winters, and it's not just the weather, it's also like communally, the culture is drown, drown yourself. Yeah. A little bit like cultural. And eat a lot

of red meat. Yeah. And it's healthy. It's healthy to eat red meat, dude. Yeah. It is, sure. The idea that we know we don't know. Right. But we're all going to die very soon if something much more tragic than we could ever imagine. Yeah cool And who cares did speed up the rock exactly wouldn't it be a bummer though if the rock hits us But it only hits like it decimates only so much of the world, but doesn't take out everybody. Yeah, what a bummer Uh, I don't know movies like 28 days later And I'm like Joe a little bit jealous of like oh all we got to do is survive like those that's the type of assignment that I feel like I'm pretty good at.

You just said you had to ask Chad GBT for like normal stuff though. Yeah but normal stuff like how to interact with like modern society. You said grocery shopping and all that stuff. Yeah there's no grocery shopping in the apocalypse. I know but then you're gonna have to kill and eat things and you just said murder is not a part of your DNA. I guess. Unless someone's threatening your wife. But I am good at

hiding and staying in a very uncomfortable space for a very long time. I can do that. I can be uncomfortable for a very long time. The Anne Frank. Yeah. Yeah. The Anne Frank. Yeah. Pulling out the old Anne Frank on us. Where's Petey? He's Anne Franking it. Yeah. Petey, come down and help us kill something already. I'm Franking. Leave me alone. I suppose so. That's all right. Yeah. Petey, come down and help us kill something already. I'm Frank and leave me alone. I suppose so. That's all right. Yeah. Name your next album Anne Frank.

Okay. Do it, dude. Yeah. Can you imagine the sales? I think it would make a splash. And give me some press. No one covers my shit. Someone should cover your shit.

Thank you. Best cover song ever. Best cover song ever. Yeah, what's you best cover song ever best cover song ever Yeah, what's the best covers like potential or like the cover version of a song give me either But I was saying like the best cover of a song for you Best cover of a song is Pete Townsend's live cover of save it for later by the English beat save it for later Yeah, wow, it's incredible. You love you think it's perfect. I think it's perfect I think it's better than the original which is my favorite for it

That's the next album. Yeah, sure. Oh, I actually would do that. That's a rad name Okay, because it is some things are better than the original. I will say what we're gonna say. What are your favorite covers? My favorite well, I would say I go through phases. There's a lot of them, but I would say Nirvana's in bloom is that what you're referring to? Is that what you're referring to? Oh, yeah. Album covers. I thought you were talking about covers of songs.

I am. Oh. I am. I was about to finish it, but I thought that's what you were referring to, me saying Nirvana's song In Bloom, Sturgill Simpson did it. Oh, that's a great idea. And it's maybe one of the greatest songs

I've ever heard in my entire life. In fact, this is lore, but I don't know how true this is because I'm gonna tell the story incorrectly. But apparently because Francis Bean, that's her name, Kurt's daughter, owns the rights to the music. Apparently they don't license out any of his shit. They don't want anybody else to do it. And I guess whether or not this is true,

it just sounds beautiful. But I guess Sturgill loved that song. And I either had reached out prior or the other way around and had said that I want to make the song. And I know they don't put stuff out, but then he made the song and then gave it to her, just gave it to her to be like a gift, so to speak. Like, I don't care if it ever comes out, but like, I wanted to make this because I love it so much. And then she allowed it to be put out on his album. That may or may not be totally true. There may be pieces of it on the internet that could find the truth to that,

but I love that version of the story. And whether or not that's true, what I can say is true is Nirvana songs are not widely covered. You do not hear a lot of Nirvana songs. So I know they must have some sort of Stronghold on Licensing out covers because I don't think they like that kind of shit because by the way Wouldn't you think you'd hear about thousand fucking Nirvana covers at this point totally and they'd be beat to death

Yeah, terrible They'd be in bloom by Sturgis. Simpson may be one of the greatest songs I've ever heard in my life It'll make you cry and make you fucking feel like you're gonna like break through the ice at the same time. Epic. It's something about it. Now album covers. What is the greatest album cover? Imagery, give me that.

For me, it's, I love The Devil and God Are Raging inside of me by that brand new album. I gotta see this, I don't know what this is. It's just like a Halloween scene. It's a scene from the movie Halloween? No, just like a... I don't know. For me it's just the one that sticks out the most. Bring it up. Maybe it's because it's like my favorite album of all time.

Oh, that's very cool. Say the album clearly again. The Devil and God are Raging Inside of Me. The Devil and God are Raging Inside of Me. That's a cool looking album cover. That was 8th grade for me that's well that's it that hits well you gave me your album and I asked that it's a picture of a family with the dog and I asked him it's your because it's your album yeah it says that your family and you said no that's just this is a family that's just a family yeah I

write a lot about thinking about like having a family because it's always been something that I felt incapable of like being good at and look at you you're going to be very good at it. Oh yeah well maybe. What's your favorite album cover, Coney? Maybe To Pimp a Butterfly. To Pimp a Butterfly, that's pretty yeah I guess that's okay. Or The Chronic. The Chronic is very simple and beautiful. It's a play on the zigzag cover. Yeah it's pretty beautiful. It's just iconic, it's so simple and iconic. But the bit of a butterfly is such a beautiful cover. There's so much symbolism in it. I'll tell you what sticks out pretty hard in my brain, even though it's not, it's nothing, it's nothing too powerful, but Bush's 16 stone for some reason, because it was part of my childhood, show me that album cover. That thing like singed into my, I mean, cause I saw the CD, it was on like the top

of my rack for a while. Maybe that's why I kept seeing that yeah I loved that that's awesome because I love the colorway is glycerin on that glycerin is on that fucking that song rocks That was the first song I ever learned how to play on good. Yeah insane. Oh, there's something about That simplicity of those old covers that I was like obsessed with yeah because and also that's back when you can open up a book in a CD and actually like read about more of the art and they don't, they have alternative photos and then sometimes the third or fourth photo would be better than the original cover photo. And you're like, that should have been the cover. And what I would do is I'd fold it, flip it, and then put that as the cover.

Did you ever do that? Uh-uh. Like Goldfinger. Goldfinger? Awesome. Goldfinger had a great album cover. Yeah. And they had even more art inside of the book.

I never got, I just listened to them via Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Correct. Yeah. Yeah, you never had the, you never had the CDs. Yeah. Yeah. CDs were fucking rad. No, I had CDs, I still have CDs.

What? This, yes. Low End Theory is a great one. Low End Theory, probably one of my favorite album covers. Because that's a real picture. They painted a, they painted a model. They painted a real photo. Of all of the Tribe album covers, this is by far the best. Yes, I agree with that. I do agree with that. That is a beautiful fucking photo. I love Midnight Marauders though, all the other hip hop heads,

like all the rappers in the background. I like it, but this one's a little bit more beautiful. This one's pretty artistic. That's a real photo. Are you into more like Bush adjacent, like kind of like butt rock music like that too? I like every, dude, you could, I can name you, if I touch, I can touch so many weird bases of music Yeah, I'm not saying I'm super knowledgeable about all them, but I but I like everything from fucking corny pop music in the current era like to Fucking again like a Sturgill like a soul. I and then I like you like Pro Jam. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I like them

Yeah, I'm not I don't I never like fell in love, but I like them a lot. Yeah. You know? I think, I don't know, there isn't a genre that I like dislike. Cool. Yeah, I think that's the same way. And then I fall in love with little tiny things like... I'm into the... Right now I'm into...

I've been listening to Galt... Don't know his name wrong. Galt McDermott. Say his name wrong. Galt McDermott. Am I saying it wrong? Just because my... yeah, Galt McDermott. I've been listening to a lot of Galt McDermott. G-A-L-T. Do you know who this gentleman is? No.

Okay, listen to this song real fast. We have to cut it out, but just so you can hear. Galt McDermott. Don't even know how I found Galt McDermott. But occasionally I'll just stumble upon something and I'll go, like that a lot, and then I'll just listen to their radio. Galt McDermott. Nice. Don't even know how I found Galt McDermott, but occasionally I'll just stumble upon something I'll go like that a lot and then I'll just listen to their radio for as long as I can. Yeah. Spotify or Apple Music? Apple Music. You're wrong dude, it's Spotify. I know, but I'm on my manager's

family plan so that's what I'm doing. That dude that came in? No, my other manager. Okay, okay. I got two managers. That guy's handsome. Yeah, very handsome. Yeah, you ever? Yeah. Hook up? Whatever. No.

We've been best friends since first grade. Oh, so yeah, you definitely have hooked up then. Yeah, if it's been that long, dude, something weird has happened, right? A little sleepover. Yeah, Washington, DC trip. Petey, what if we snuggle? Well, I just want to watch Terminator. Me too, but what if we're snuggling while we watch Terminator

Yeah, you know how 13 year olds are it's really it's quite. It's so gay. Yeah, it's very good The gayest yeah, you could ever be is a young a young boy a young white suburban boy Yeah, gayest boy on earth for sure no queen down at the fucking gay pride parade on a float Could ever be as gay as a sleepover with two 13 year old white suburban boys in northern Chicago. That's the gayest you could be. I got like eight boys. Eight boys?

Yeah. Yeah. So gay. That's a party. You gotta call the cops. Indeed. Listen to the album. Please enjoy PDUSA on all the platforms that he's available.

Watch him get jacked. The album drops again. Give him the date of the album again Please enjoy PD USA on all the platforms that he's available watch him get jacked Yeah, the album drops again given the date of the album again, July 11th, July 11th Please stream it download it consume it buy it go see him live you on tour at all I'm gonna be putting my tour on sale the day the album drops. Hell. Yeah, July 11th We'll be putting out and it's PD USA comm Hell yeah, July 11th we'll be putting out and it's PDUSA.com PDS website dot com PDS website dot com We'll put the link in the description down below Joe, please

Go see and enjoy and ingest him. I've liked you for a while, man. I think you're a talented cool, dude And I hope the success continues I hope you have a family if you want one not because I hope you have one just because you want one And I hope you get jacked and I hope when we do go down in flames, I do hope that you manage to be victorious and survive and lead us back into a new society. Right on, right? Cool? We end the show the same way. You look into that camera, you're single, and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode. One word or one phrase. Thanks. In here, we pour whiskey.

Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like that. The ginger gene is a curse. Ginges are pugilistic. You owe me five dollars for the whiskey, seventy-five dollars for the horse. Gingers are hell no.

This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.