Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Shane Mauss Is Back On The Show! | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger a Wave series presented by Fanduel. Santino sits down with comedian, science communicator, and podcast host Shane Mauss for a conversation that somehow bounces between stand-up, neuroscience, psychedelics, consciousness, mental health, and the ridiculousness of everyday life. Shane has spent years exploring the intersection of comedy and science, and he brings that same curiosity and plenty of laughs to this episode. They talk about creativity, fear, the human brain, touring, personal growth, and why asking big questions often leads to even stranger answers. Whether they're diving into philosophy or getting sidetracked by complete nonsense, Santino and Shane keep the conversation funny from start to finish. Check out Shane's two new specials TRIPS out now! 🍄 First Dose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHh3OSbTcWM Second Dose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-0-BDLBHE You can also check out Shane's podcast Here We Are & Myth Understanding and tour dates at: https://www.shanemauss.com Follow Shane Mauss: https://www.instagram.com/shanemauss Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast 🕐 Timestamps: 00:00 – BAD GAMESHOW 02:22 – Shanes vs Shawns 07:04 – I'm Not A Researcher 17:06 – What was too much for you? 34:31 – The Social Brain 41:08 – Incredibly Bizarre Facts About 2 and 3 Toed Sloths 55:00 – The Tasmanian Devil #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #ShaneMauss #ComedyPodcast ================================================ This episode is sponsored by: FANDUEL Bet on a match and get Bonus Bets for every goal scored in that match http://fanduel.com SQUARESPACE USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://squarespace.com/whiskey LIQUID IV USE PROMO CODE: 2026WG FOR 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER http://liquidiv.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We were talking heavily about Shane's prior to the episode. because Shane said, how many Shains do you have in your phone? And I said, I don't know, and we looked, and I think there was seven or eight that we just counted. I'm a pathetic excuse of a Shane. I have less Shanes in my phone than you do. And Shains are supposed to really stick together. Because you're at war against? The Shons.

Yeah, they got the numbers. We're supposed to have the brains, but I don't know. You think that Shane over Shahn? I would like to say, how many Shons are in my life? I'm thinking of all my Shons. You got so many more Shons. I have way more Sean. My childhood best friend is Sean, and I got to tell you.

You just might be, I'm a little more of an introvert than you are, so that might be part of it. Here's the irony. I'm probably more of an introvert than you think. It's just I have to fake the fun to, like, live amongst humans. Right, right, right, right, right. You get to live in your van and party. I do. My dream scenario is like I'm out on federal land somewhere where there hasn't been a human for like months.

Yeah. And there's just no one around. I have no cell phone service. No one would hear it if I screamed or anything. Or if you're going to get attacked? You want to be on the show alone, right? That was the show. We love that.

All right, here we go. Sean's. Yeah. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fourteen, fifteen. That's a lot of Sean's. And all of them are S-E-A-N. But these are all walks of life for me.

Some of these are business associates. Some, like my two of these are my closest friends. One of them is an old booker. One of them is a friend of a friend. I'm good with friends of a friend. Like if you introduce me to someone... Yeah, see, I won't. I won't take someone's number.

If you said to me, hey, Santino, this guy, I really like this guy. He wants to come see you at a show. And then we'd have a beer afterwards. Because I like you so much, I assume, well, this guy's got to be good. Do you know what I mean? So I'll do the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. By osmosis.

I got five shons in my film. But I was just DMing Shane Tora, or Five Shains in my phone. Five Shains is not bad. Not bad. Oh, one's me. I was a tour. I was just DMing Tours. I don't know.

I feel like I keep up with the Shames. You keep up. You keep up. And by the way, before we get too in depth, we're going to link it down below. This handsome gentleman has two specials right now on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. First trip, second trip, right?

It's trips. First dose and second dose. First dose and second dose. It was a lot of like figuring out what. First we're going to go click baity and call the first one like LSD versus mushrooms because it's fun rage baiting the psychedelic crowd because they have like very strong opinions about the silly shit. And then the second one was going to be DMT versus ketamine. That was just to like.

Well, these are good titles for clicks. Just for clicks. But then they were scared about getting demonetized, which is a real thing. So that's the double-edged sort of doing psychedelic content generally. Sometimes I'm like selling out everywhere. And then there's an algorithm change where they're like anything that even looks like it's promoting any kind of a thing. I go from adding 400-seat shows to suddenly I can't get 50 people in. It's crazy.

It just happened, like, twice in the 10 years or so that I've been doing some stuff in the psychedelic space. I do, I do other shows, too, whatever. The psychedelic shows are cruising right now, though. Yeah, I mean, I think that it's a weird, it's a weird time. It was, there was like this psychedelic renaissance. When I first, I did my first psychedelic show in, like, 2015, and that was like, oh, my God, someone's talking about psychedelics on stage. Like, whoa, what an edgy thing. And then there was kind of this psychedelic renaissance, and then COVID happened, and then it kind of opened up some stuff more, and there's been some of the decriminalization.

And then, like, two or three years ago, everything started getting, like, really monetized and stuff. Commercialized. Now my aunt is microdosing, you know? And so now it kind of like jumped the shark, but now it's kind of like coming back a little bit. It's tough to tell. I don't know. I still think you're at the... You're in the corner of all of it. You're like one of the pillars of the psychedelic revolution of comedy.

A lot of people talk about it. You and I have talked about it. But I do think your grip on it is probably a little bit stronger than most because of your history. Yeah. Yeah. You've had a good dance with it. Yeah. I've had some really extreme experiences and I've been in the space.

And even though I don't research psychedelics, I'm just around people that do. I ingest them a lot. And so I also, I'm always up to speed on what's going on out there. And then I also have like a very, for people that have had the kind of experiences, like, you know, I've been to a psych ward because of psychedelics, most people that have had those types of experiences tend to, tend to skew like mystical and woohoo and I'm like very science. So I have like an annoyingly grounded take on very extreme experiences for. for a lot of people in the psychedelic

community's taste. They're like mad that I don't believe the experiences that I've had. They're like this is proof that there's angels and things out there. I'm like, I don't think so. I think I lost my mind actually. I love that. That's like the elevator pitch that you're like, I love psychedelics, but I'm against the entire

community of psychedelics. I was never in the community I think it's because they take it so here's like here's like we've talked on this show about this too we talk to phil hanley pretty heavily like he's a deadhead do you know phil hanley yeah yeah he's a pretty big dead head and i i very much like the dead but i never would ever say i'm a dead head yeah because it's it's it's it's sacrilegious it's like again because then they begin to like give you a pop quiz on how deep you are and you're like dude i just like the music yeah but their culture is so um there's so many subcultures

within the culture and they're kind of all battling each other. Not in a negative way, but in like a, how far back do you go? How deep do you go? What shows you, like, what, how niche can you get? It's very wild. Of course I want everyone to watch my special and everything. Everybody please watch it. There's a zillion specials.

There's only so much time in a day. I get it. If you really want to amuse yourself, at least just go on my Instagram, go to a couple of highlights from the specials, and then just, just, just, just, you know, just start reading the comments of all the well actually people in the psychedelic. The mana well actually is, yeah. Well, actually, you know. And it's like, it's also stuff that's like, I actually kind of know, but that I have to, like,

I'm communicating to a wide audience these ideas. So I'm sorry that I said hits when I'm talking about LSD instead of saying like micrograms or something. You know, like these fucking guys. It's so annoying. But it's also the internet. You know, I go and I perform psychedelic shows. And part of the reason why I put together tours in the first place was because I experimented with a couple shows.

I just like doing themed shows. I was like, these crowds are fucking amazing and so smart and curious and lovely people. And they're asking follow-up questions after the show. Like, that never happens. And so it's so cool. And then, you know, then you get online. Don't get on. People online are the worst.

And they really, you know, the most extreme people in every crowd. And it's also the people that, like, don't go out in public as much. So they don't have the social skills. And they have more extreme beliefs. And they've told themselves that they have, like, this galaxy brain or whatever. Because, you know, they have, like, AI validate. all of their big ideas about things. And so they really truly are the worst.

But I find it so amusing. It's fascinating a little bit. You just can't get sucked into it. Because otherwise it's a battle of the, it's a battle of your self-confidence and your work. You become kind of like beaten down by strangers for no reason. You're like, why am I letting this make me feel? I mean.

If it's an argument, if it becomes this like... Well, to me it's like when they're right. Because sometimes there's like something where I'm like, ooh, that touched on something. actually. That's probably true. Those are the ones where I'm like, oh, dang, yeah.

But a lot of times people just want to fight to fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, being in the world of comedy, you don't? No. I don't want, I'm not interested. I just, I want, you know, it makes me, I'm like, I have a whole life I want to live.

I don't want to fight. I sometimes like giving people tips on social decorum. Oh, I like this. You know, if you would have opened with this sentence instead of this, like, when it came across this snarky and people might have been more interest, in what you had to say and the information that you're trying to convey there.

Shane teaching. Well, wait, also, I want to bring up, and we'll bring up the photo here of your van. We had the van out back, and we were going to maybe put it in one of the spots, but I thought, I don't know if it's going to fit. And then Shane was like, wait until you see the parallel job I just did. You left maybe a quarter inch on each side? Yeah, something like that. Amazing you were able to do that.

Well, it's one of that. So it was a big decision. I got it two and a half years. ago or something. I almost got one in 2019 and then COVID happened, blah, blah, blah, but it had been on my mind for a while. But it was, I looked at RVs for a little while, thought about that route. And it's like, man, like I do a lot of indie venues and stuff and finding places to park

and the gas mileage. Having the space is nice. And then I thought, maybe you get like a truck with a pole behind trailer that I can leave in a place and then take the truck into the gig or something. thought of all those. And then the van situation was like a friend of a friend who let me. I was able to rent it for a month. And then if I decided to buy it,

that money came off of what I was buying it for. That's kind of cool. And the main thing was it fits in regular parking spots. Because you can get a little longer sprinter. Right. But then you're like, it's just it. Then you might as well get a full RV. RV.

The RVs are cool, but I feel like we've had family friends that have had them. There's more shit that breaks on RVs. There's a lot of shit to go wrong. Like a lot of shit to go wrong. Whereas sprinters are the biggest van like in the world. Most countries, they don't even have anything except sprinters. And so there's just so many, you know, they just have it down. It's like a Honda Civic.

It's like there's a billion of them. And not only that, but there's like all, it's the number one customized van. So there's all these like ready made custom. customized things that you could add to, I should have showed you the back to, but they're, you know, like the, some of the, um, cabinets and stuff that you can just get like ready made cabinets and stuff to pop in there. Right. Things on the back with all these little compartments and pockets. It's amazing. Yeah, it is cool. I've seen, I've seen some of the, I've gotten down the, the YouTube rabbit hole of like watching people's like super high end custom versions of like they can make the amount of, there's a, there's a, there's someone on there that they vlog every day when they're, like, they're. partner goes to work and every single day it's like a all right he's off to work and here's how

what i do for my day and it's like incredible how much like you can fit into it look it's like clown carrie where you're like that's inside of there and it like folds away and tucks and and somehow it everything can get so compact down to like nothing yeah that if you pulled it all out which i think one episode i saw they pull everything out it's it's like would fit in a triple seven airplane like the amount of shit you're like how did you how did you how did you how Where does all that shit go? Yeah. But there's little tricks and, you know, like they all have...

There's things you can put on top. There's like these drawers that you can slide in the back. There's all... And having that much sort of... Like, I have an inflatable stand-up pedal board in there. I have like rock climbing gear. That's what I mean. It's crazy, dude.

And like, like, pickaball stuff and all that. I'm like pretty active person. You have all your gear. Everything you need. Yeah. If you could... I have like eight suits in there. I don't even own eight suits. That's what?

Well, you wear suits on stage. Yeah. Yeah, so you have to, you have that. That was something I always was jealous of. As soon as I saw, there was a couple of guys back in the day that started wearing, like, dressing up for, to do stand-up. Or, like, looking more. And I was always like, oh, man, I wonder if I'll get to a place where I want to do that. And then the older I got, I was like, no, I can't do that.

I can't do it. I don't know what I think about it, honestly. Can't do it. Like, you know, I like, because it, like, kind of feel silly. Well, you wear psychedelic suits. You were very, like, loud and fun. So how that started was my, my, my, my, first like big thing that I put together after COVID was a residency in Vegas at area 15,

which is kind of like this psychedelic like warehouse mall of sorts. They have a, they have a meow wolf, Omega Mart in there. And they have, I was kind of inspired by the show because I was asked to host a conference there that had a 360 degree visual space. And I'd always wanted to add visuals to it. But I didn't know how to pull it off without making it like a PowerPoint presentation or whatever. And so my specials that I eventually made, we had 20 different artists in the psychedelic space, make a bunch of visuals for it, and then a VJ, a video jockey blending things in real time so that I could, I didn't have to like follow a script and I could change up the order and structure. But I was like, I'm doing this whole psychedelic show with visuals in the psychedelic

place in Vegas. And I'm like, I can't wear like regular clothes. No. And so I got a hold of a bunch a psychedelic artist friends. And I was like, you know, anyone out there can make me look like a psychedelic Willy Wonka or some shit like that or like a DMT Jesus or something. And they're like, yeah, this

freeborn design guy. So this guy out of San Francisco that makes a bunch of dope stuff. So he makes all your suits? Yeah, yeah. Some of them are off the rack and then I some some of them are custom. Freeborn. Yeah, yeah. Freeborn design. Shout out to freeborn. Freeborn suit design or is it just freeborn? Freeborn designs.

Freeborn designs. I think if you use offer code trip or trips or something? Do it! It's like something... Use your offer-goed trips, gave yourself a cool suit. Years ago he gave me some offer code that I often forget. Well, you should plug it. Yeah, I should plug it. Yeah, offer code trip. No, but you do it. Trip or trips. Trip or trips. Try both. And if neither them work, too bad, buy the suit anyway.

Yeah, yeah. Support this man. Yeah, yeah. No, I think, yeah, I never wanted to be like a guy who wears a suit on stage, but I do think, like, comedy is how it sounds coming out of you as a whole. So part of you as a whole is how you present. And like your wardrobe is a part of, I mean. It just all came to get. Like the hair was, I mean, I'd done psychedelic shows when I was like the all-American looking. You were an all-American boy. Yeah.

And then this was just COVID. I made this like silly web series where it made sense for me to like where I couldn't get to a barber or something as part of the premise. and so I grew all this out and then the first opportunity that I had outside of it was like oh I can do this Vegas residency with a psychedelic show I wasn't planning on doing psychedelic shows I had already toured with that

and I think I'm done and I'm like oh this is fucking cool I want to do this and like add all the art and everything that's like that'll really finish the dream that I'm always living in out my dreams from like 12 years ago Sure. Like 12 years ago, me always would think what I'm doing is really cool. Present me always thinks what I'm doing is like, I don't know about this anymore. I think it's very cool.

I love your show. Like, your show would be great at the sphere. I know they got a, like, that's such an interactive, immersive, like. I just need to figure out how to fill about 20,000 more seats than I can regularly. You got it. You got it. Bow, Burnham produced my sphere special. maybe. Yeah, you could do it. They should have a baby sphere. They should have one where they do. They're making them. So yeah, yeah. They have a they have ones that are like thousand cedars and stuff. My, I have a new show called Myth Understandings that I've been putting together for a while. And it's it's it's kind of science inspired philosophical humorist show about the evolution of mythology and why we why our brains are prone to

superstitions and these kind of mental models that helped hunter-gatherers that are mismatched with our modern world and leads to a lot of misinformation and disinformation and why that stuff is like clickbaiting. But it starts

with like Greek and Roman mythology and hunter-gatherers and stuff and so we built it for planetariums and because domes are taking off and stuff. Wow. That's the show that I'm marking on now. I did hear that the sphere was planning on making other spheres and other big cities

of the same size, but is the same company doing that, or this is just other companies making smaller little spheres? Yeah, I don't know. There's one called Cosm, I think, that is making a few. But they're a much smaller scale. We got a kid with the Googles. What does it say? It says, sphere entertainment is developing mini-sphere, smaller. 5,000 to 6,000 capacity immersive venues planned for global expansion following the success of the 18,000 seed Vegas original. A 6,000-seat minisphairs

Plan for National Harbor, Maryland. These venues aim to reduce energy costs and operational complexity. 6,000 is still a lot of seats. That's still a lot of seats. I mean, I don't have the poll, but I do have the... I've been working with artists for like 10 years

and putting all this shit together, so I'm the only one that knows how to do it right now. Some other comedian can pay me to... I'll teach them how to do such a show. You could do a psychedelic festival at a 5,000 theater. If you had many comics on it, then it's the best way to get that done. Right?

How people just come. and do stuff and create art for because I was talking to I was talking to this is kind of crazy I played in this golf tournament and AJ McLean who's of the Backstreet Boys is they're doing the sphere and I was like who designed

the art and he's like we're doing it I was like that's really cool he's like working with artists to get it done I thought that's got to be like part of the most fun because the songs they've worked on for like as any musician or artist like when you tour an hour you've already got the hour And I was like, how much more fun is that

Now you get to make the art that goes along with it? That's got to be like the most invigorating part of it. It was so cool. And it's like it's a new form of comedy to, you know? It's like I'm using my comedic skills in a different way and then having a second person that's like kind of a part of the show. And then like in the first dose you'll see it's like authentic moments where it's like I didn't like what he's like,

what the fuck are you putting that up for? and then making them change things in real time. And so it's this whole weird dynamic that it took a long time to get used to, but it eventually figured it out. And then you figure out nuances of like, you know, a lot of it's prepared and then some of it's a little bit improvised and you're mixing it up. And then like, oh, sometimes the visuals stepping on my punchline.

Sometimes things are coming too late. So it's really like a different art form. No, it is. I mean, truly. You're doing two things at once. I'm barely, I don't even know how to talk sometimes. I'm up there, I'm just like, I don't even know how to get through this, dude. Not true.

What would you do, what do you think in the psychedelic realm or world of ingestion would you never do again? Is there anything you're like, I'm out on that? I'm not going to go back to that. It's not for me anymore. I mean, I kind of have PTSD from 5MAO DMT, the Toad medicine. That hit me pretty hard. It was two of the best experiences I've ever had and then two of the worst, and, you know, our brains kind of tend to remember the negative experience is a bit more.

Bad outweighs the good. And so it's, but like the thing with the PTSD is like I also, if I don't do it again, then it just stuck me kind of being confused about what happened, whereas usually if you go back and you see like, oh, that's what I was seeing. Yeah, maybe you go back and conquer it. And there's like fucking Iba game that just got like, oh my. It's like, oh my God, what the fuck? I mean, there's like, oh, this is, it breaks all these things and the science.

Like, no, they've been studying. Like, someone died in a study. That's why they quit the studies, you know? Originally, I was going to call it closed on that. It's like not a terribly scientific way that it's, I'm happy that things are moving forward, but I'm also very pro-science guy. Yeah. I wish we lived in a world that was,

science-based policy more, which would make psychedelics more decriminalized and legalized and studied. But like Ibegain, I remember when I was making my documentary psychonautics, comics exploration of psychedelics available on Amazon, I was supposed to go and do Ibogaine in Mexico. The place got shut down by like the cartel before I got a chance to do it. but I remember I was talking with Rick Doblin, who is the founder of Maps, the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies, which kind of spearheaded the modern psychedelic research movement.

He's a funny guy, really smart, interesting guy. And I was like, Rick, I'm thinking about doing Ibogaine, but I don't know. I've heard it just kind of like for the documentary and I'm an experienced chaser. And I've heard it can be like a 12-hour nightmare. He's like, oh, no, it can be much longer than that. And so I haven't done that one yet, and it's like, it's definitely not calling to me.

No. But I could see, there's like, there's different chains, you know. We all have different aspects of who we are. Yeah, we do. So, like, the right thing could hit me at the right time. I'm like, oh, all right. But, like, you're on a, you're on a hospital bed with defibrillators nearby because your heart can stop. I mean, that's some fucking serious.

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But isn't that crazy that that's the world we're living in? That he's like, bro. Yeah. Bro. It's just like populace pandering stuff of the weirdest way. And that's weird that's weird that's how you pander to the populace. Yeah. And it's also because there's all these,

so there's all these games within the psychedelic culture where you like introduce some new thing that has it. Like everyone already knows LSD, so it already has this baggage attached to it. Where if you just go like Ibogaine, even though, even if it's like far more intense than everything, like people don't know that.

Of course not. So you just go like, oh, this is just good for opiate addiction or whatever. Oh, opiate addiction's bad. Ibogaine, this thing that I've never heard of that like science is saying. And no one's like,

no one knows science. Like the world's not scientifically thinking. We are completely scientifically illiterate and have no real dearth of critical thinking skills. And so, which by the way, I'm bringing back my science podcast. Here we are. It's at the same time that the special drops. So check that out. Check out.

Here we are. I interview a scientist of academic each week in different fields. And so you can just listen to the way that scientists talk, and then it helps you, like, think about how. Oh, scientific thinking works. Sure. Like scientists say, I don't know more than any human being you will ever meet in your entire life. Because we just pretend like we know. We pretend like we know.

He could be talking to the world's leading authority on a subject and ask them the simplest question about it. And I'm like, I don't know. I'll literally, I'll research someone's work and be like, oh, this was the stuff that, like, got them 10-year and got them published in nature, which is like the biggest thing for a scientist. I'll ask them about that work. You know, more stuff's come in since I'm not sure I really buy into them my own best idea anymore. And that's just a different way of thinking than a lot of people think. Yeah.

Well, because they're, well, because they're quite literal. Science has no facetiousness to it. They're like, well, it's either this or this. They can't be like, it's so definitive. Science has to be definitive. So for them, it was probably true at the time. But since it changed, they're not just going to lean on. they felt, they're going to be like, well, it's continuing to change. You have to keep up.

And yeah, the models are always getting a lot more complex and sophisticated. And so the whole game is you're always trying to think of like, are there alternative explanations for things? And then is there a way that you can, so the whole, the whole thing that is also opposite of how every human's mind works is that science goes about falsifying things. So you come up with an idea And then you go like, okay, how would this work? And then how could I form a test to test this? And what I'm trying to do with the test is I'm trying to falsify my, how do I prove myself wrong in as many possible ways?

And then you really run your idea through a gauntlet. And then after you're done with that, you find people in related fields that are expertise and things that you aren't in case you have blind spots. And then you go, hey, can anyone find some shit that's wrong? with my ideas and then after enough peer review it can say and none of this is perfect it doesn't always go this way right but but then then it can get published and and then after it's published then it gets more eyes on it criticizing it and trying to figure out what's wrong with it and you

really can't get a job in science unless you have like a new hook and a new angle and you've found like I think they've missed something here and here's like a little bit of a hole where sounds like comedy. I can research. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is basically comedy. Yeah. Well, honestly, I think part of my love of it is, is comedy and science.

They're doing the exact same thing. It's the alien anthropologist point of view where scientists go like, hey, why, most people go, yeah, someone, hey, why do we behave this way? Why do we like cheers or whatever when we have drinks? And you ask anyone, they're like, oh, you know, this is just, what we do and you take it for granted. The scientists go, no, but why?

Where did that evolve? Where did that come from? And you investigate, comedians do the same thing. Have you ever noticed this and that way? You know, the etymology of the cheers came from the Swedish word, Cherleugan? And what happened? Yeah, exactly.

No, that is true. It's the same. And then the more publicized it gets, the more critical it becomes. And more people kind of jump on board, either cheering it on or saying, you know, actually. Actually. And as a comedian, you have to be so thoughtful in that, because you find out because your ideas get run through the gauntlet of the audience.

And it's not even that an idea is necessarily bad. It might be that you have had so much more time to think about it. You're so much more ahead of the idea that you take for granted. This is one of my favorite most pretentious, most pretentiously named cognitive biases is the curse of knowledge, which is once you know something, it is hard to get back in the place of not knowing that thing. Doug Stanhope had this amazing bit about it, about how he didn't know it was about that term, but it's about like he, I'm going to butcher it, but it's about how he will yell at someone for not knowing a thing that he learned yesterday.

Yeah, how do you not know that? And so you find that out on stage where it's like, oh, I'm not conveying this. I'm taking it for granted that they're in my head and know all of the things that I know. So then you have to, like what may feel like dumbing something down is just making something more clear. Yeah, and not assuming that they have any sort of idea that you have knowledge about it. Right. I'll do this a lot, like with my wife, sometimes like, she's like, you know, you've been talking to yourself. I don't know what you're talking about because I'll be jumping through my brain like this.

And then I'll say to her, well, right, is that what Karen's son's name is? And she'll go, what are you talking about? And we do this all the time where you're like, you're assuming they're catching up to where you are. Yeah, yeah. But you're on a light rail. And they're like, what do you, I don't even know where you are. Well, it's also because we have these. So one of my favorite concepts to think about is that we have these social brains.

that tend to over-perceive, they tend to conflate the knowledge in other people's brains with what's in our own heads. So this is like part of, there's a whole field of study, which is the illusion of explanatory depth, which is kind of hilarious and fascinating, which is that you ask someone, this is related to, one of the things kind of getting out there in the zeitgeist is the Dunning-Krooger effect. You've heard this. People have the most confidence in their knowledge is something when they know nothing at all. Then you start learning about something. You go, oh, my God, this is more complicated than I realize. And then it's not until you have a master's degree in physics that you think you maybe have the same confidence in your understanding of gravity as when you knew nothing. And we're like, oh, yeah, things fall down.

You know, I get it. And but within that, one of the things that we do, because confidence is such a big thing is. social animals is is that um one we overestimate ourselves two we we like hunter gatherers had to know who when people had different knowledge bases like you might know how to build a shelter better than i do i might know how to like hunt better and you would know that and and so when you're around people that have skills that you don't have like if you're around your mechanic friend you you overestimate how much knowledge you have about maintenance, car maintenance. And so they've tested this in a million ways.

My favorite study is this quick is they go, they basically say the same thing twice, two slightly different conditions. The control, they go, scientists have discovered this new mineral. It glows. And they've figured out why it glows. They've learned everything about it. How much do you know about this glowing mineral? And people are like, I think I got a hand.

handle on this hypothetical thing you just made up for this story that I read one paragraph about. And then they change it and they go, scientists have discovered this mineral glows. They've learned everything about it. It's confidential. How much do you know about it? What do you mean? I don't know anything about it. Just because they put the word confidential in there. So you don't have access. So our brains conflate the ability to access information with already having it. So what does that mean in our modern world where we have a fucking magical device with all of human knowledge at your fingertips? And so we often confuse the ability to even look something up with already having that knowledge because you go like, I could look it up.

I already feel like you know. And we're all doing this all the time now. Yeah, you're like, I've already been downloaded. I got it. I think I get it. It's not. I can take 30 seconds and look it up. Well, because we have this thing, the scariest thing to me is like, because you have it, sometimes now, you're, you feel like you don't even want to look it up because it's almost too convenient where you're like, yeah, I guess it's that thing. We almost just did it on the sphere thing where we're like, what is? It's got to be the, it's got to be the thing. I mean, and it cuts both ways because sometimes sometimes I'm saying something now because like,

I've been, yeah, I've been talking with scientists for 15 years, so I can, like, I'll get going, and sometimes I know when I'm getting a little loose, you know, because I can sound pretty convincing. And more and more, because of AI and everything, I'm finding myself being like, I should be, I should be a little careful about, like, if I'm going to, if I'm going to say, like, normally I just wing it and go like, oh yeah, the two and three finger sloth diverged 60 million years ago. Now I go like, I think it was like 20, 30 million years ago. You might have to check it. Just because I'm now like in my head that like, what if someone checks me afterwards?

Like, do you think Shane's just making up shit about sloths? Could be. Yeah, could be. Just a fucking psycho. Shane doesn't know anything about sloths. You know that? He's just guessing. But confidence.

is key. If you just sell them on that, people believe it. That's why you're, honestly, these two things are so parallel. Everything you're saying is like the comedy world, the more confident you are as a comedian, the more you can convey something that may not be that socially funny to people, but you've like sold them on something that they, because the idea of comedy branches for a communal, for something that's communal and kind of broad, is that we've all lived this experience, right? If you said something like, you know when you're on a fucking ATM and blah blah blah blah blah blah and the assumption is yeah like 99% of people in there probably gone to an ATM but if you're really good like really good at comedy some of the best that i've ever seen like louis does this a lot he'll he'll talk about something that probably is quite niche but he he words it in a way where i feel like i may have done it yeah i always think about the bit he does with the little um when you walk into somebody's little shop in a foreign country and he's got a little bullshit half door and it's the bang belay gang be ding big ding and you walk into their dream, you know what I'm talking?

And he explains it in such great detail and depth that I know I've seen this in my mind, but I'm not sure that I've actually experienced it, but because he's so good at selling you on it, you feel like you're like, of course I've been in one of those stories. I don't really know if I have, but I know that I can see it enough. So it has that same, good comedy has that same ability of like, well, you're selling it to me so well, I guess it's, I must believe it's true. That's called the availability heuristic.

The more readily you can picture something in your mind, the more likely your brain conceives of it. And we all kind of go on that ride. So if you can create this story for people. It works a lot better than, you know, that's why we don't manage data very well in statistics. We're pretty bad at that. What? What are you going to say?

Do you want to know when two fingered and three fingered slas? It was like 30 million. Prove Shane wrong. No, he's right. No, 30 million. 30 million. Okay, good. It was on the money.

30 million? 30 million years ago. What's incredibly bizarre about that. So, so sloths, there's been a variety of sloths through the ages. Most sloths were, like, giant ground sloths somewhere larger than elephants. There was aquatic sloths for a while. Sloss today are actually better swimmers than anything else. but people pick them up from boat

they think they're drowning. People are like at a boat the fucking poor thing doesn't move very fast but the fastest it moves is in the water and it's trying to get laid. They think it's help. Meanwhile they're like covered in these fucking mites with like rare diseases. And and and

but but they're this archetype of like how does this thing exist? They hardly move and everything they're basically like a very sophisticated gut hanging in a tree. But they, so there's been plenty of larger, more ferocious, faster sloths. They're all extinct.

The two sloths that stuck around, two and three finger sloths, they're unrelated. They aren't related. There's no lies. They aren't cousins. Their last ancestor was like 30 million years ago. It was more like an anteater or something. And then they went off on separate branches. And then because of this is called convergent evolution,

because of these very specific ecological constraints and opportunities within systems, they converged on this very similar morphology where most people would look at them and not be able to tell them apart. I'd tell them apart. But most people wouldn't. You could tell them apart. This is essentially like two people that have, you've ever seen this online when they go two people around the world that aren't related but look identical? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's no ties to these people at all. They just kind of have like somehow mimic the same characteristics, but they have nothing to do with one another. There's no tie to them. And this is like, and people have their minds blown when like flight was thought of in two different areas independent of one another. And this is, you know, that happens all the time just because like sometimes when the idea is ripe for flying, flying just takes off. It's easier to understand and more simple. There's been a zillion mole-like type things because anything that burrows

is going to have like a similar shape. Fish, there's only so many ways to be hydrodynamic, you know. But it's like very unusual when you have something as odd as a sloth that has converged on this exact same strategy, the same morphology. Only you can tell a difference.

Or even like if something like Armageddon versus Deep Impact, like both those movies came out in 98 and it's like one of them it and steal from another because of how long it takes movies going to production, but they both are probably inspired by something around the same time. Something was happening societally, right? This happens a lot, though. The prestige and the illusionists?

Remember that? Two fantastic magician thrillers? Kind of the same film. But something probably happened three years before that planted the idea. Something in our social zeitgeist was moving through and people go, oh, this is, this is that, this is that, that's why this is that. And then it kind of just,

that's the same thing when you write a joke where someone else I thought about this while I was brushing my teeth this morning. This is great. Well, Fitzsimmons texting me. You know Greg Fitzsimmons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the Fitzdog. He was texting me something, he was being mean, as he always is.

And I remember him and I had like a similar joke years ago. And it made me laugh while I was brushing my teeth because I went up to Greg and I didn't really know him that well. This had been maybe 10 years ago or more. And, you know, much younger comedian. And I was like, hey, I just want to let you know. I kind of have something like oddly similar to this. And it's not the same, but like I wanted to be careful as you do.

You're like, I just want to let you know. But like I had never seen you do that. And I know he had never seen me do that because I was kind of still running on lower market shows. And he goes, really? And I go, yeah, it's oddly. There's some no punchlines are the same. No beats are the same. But they take this parallel path and they really keep like coming real close to bumping.

And he was like, oh, wow. And I was like, yeah, that's kind of cool, right? and he goes, who does it better? That's funny, because when that happens to me, when I find things when someone, I see someone doing a joke that I have, my first conclusion isn't, oh, they must have seen and stolen my joke.

I'm usually like, guess that joke wasn't very good. Right, yes. Because it wasn't good enough. He's easily thought. Well, and the truth for Greg was he did it better, but it's only because he's uglier, because he can sell, you know, an uglier man can sell this joke better. No, I saw, I said you.

He goes, well, I'm going to keep doing it. I said, well, I'm doing it, Greg. I don't care. But yes, these, the, the, the similar ideas happen all the time. Yeah, it's just another thing that we have a hard time wrapping our minds around is just bottom-up emergence of complexity. Right. And through these simple processes.

We, we're tool users, our brain thinks about things from this top-down. because when we did evolve to figure out how to design something and build something and use tools, it was incredibly beneficial. So we overshoot it. So we just have a hard time understanding like that. Things just happen sometimes. And then they combine in these weird, similar ways sometimes. And it seems very coincidental, but it's also like part of the reason why we experience so many coincidences is because we have like an internet and social media and eight billion people. all sharing their experiences.

And so one person over here and one person over here looks identical and is doing the same thing and they're unrelated. And some things are deliberate. Like I did steal your idea. I'm going to do a psychedelic tour. And I'm going to say it had nothing to do with anything. I want you to just ruin your career. You're doing so well. Like I need to think of some fucking gimmick that gets a specialized audience.

to listen to me blab about shit. Here's why it's not a gimmick. It's it's because anybody who I think would try to do what you're doing would do it with it would be so like contrived. And yours is so genuine

that I don't think anybody can touch that realm. I think you're in a league of your own. Oh, thank you. No, truly. I mean, you're one of the funniest people that I know. And it's funny because when I first saw you, you were the all-American boy.

Yeah, yeah. Like, bring up a picture of Old Shane. Can we get a picture of Old Shane? For the audience that doesn't know. Old Shane, the all-American boy. And honestly, I just kind of... I was always a troublemaker. I actually used to be more of a troublemaker than I am now.

And so it was so much more beneficial to look that way. But I mean, no, but this is... Well, this is a new audience. By the way, I wanted to say this because this made me laugh. And show... You got to send that to Joe. Show this picture of the audience. Look at that sexy young boy, dude.

Sometimes I'll, like, be with a girl or something. Like, find me attractive, but then I show her an old picture. And they're like, oh, fuck. I see her, like, looking at my jawline and stuff. Like, oh, what's under that beard? A handsome, handsome boy. Can we? I see him going for the scissors.

You're still a handsome man. These are just two different guys. By the way, I wanted to say this. This made me, I thought about this, too, when you said the, by the, whenever somebody has a similar joke, I'm going to call it a three-toed sloth. I'll call it a three-toed sloth, is what I'm saying. I'm going to go, dude, you three-toed sloth me. Max Muncie, there are two Max Munciees in professional baseball, completely unrelated, share the same birthday. Yes.

And they are unrelated. Look that up. This is, this is, Max Muncie, uh, completely unrelated. unrelated and have the exact same birthday on August 25th, one's 1990, one's 2002, and you want to talk about creepy. That's where you're like, that's where a piece of me goes back to is the universe have more power than we think? Like, is there something underneath the thing? Like that feels, it feels like a slip in the sim. In here, we pour whiskey.

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And he's like, how is this a coincidence? It can't be. There's just too much data here. And he starts looking at it and then realized, well, what it is is that that's, that was like the oldest person in every hockey league in school. So you were just slightly bigger. And you'd get a little more playing time.

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Yeah, yeah. Because golf, you don't necessarily need to be tall or very strong. I mean, athleticism does have a piece of it. But you ground him into number one still makes me think, but did the universe already have this plan for this kid? It's creepy. I mean, there's a lot of survivorship bias, too. I mean, there's a lot of want to be. Jackson 5 is out there right now

that needs social services called and like they aren't going to make it, they aren't going to be generating that revenue. But why not them? What is it? And then there's a timing, there's everything. But does the universe have anything to do with any of that? Well, in my perspective, it wouldn't

so much. But I'm also like so it's really complicated. The ideas of free will and determinism because I think like in hindsight it was always determined sure but the future is impossible to determine we we can never know and there's all there there's just very very complicated ideas of chaos and emergence and how how how predicting anything is kind of impossible but in hindsight so this is that people evolutionary thinking is kind of of where I'm most comfortable.

And the mistake that I see most people intuitively make, and I have to stop myself, is you look back in hindsight and you go, oh, that was for something. It feels as if the species had foresight and was looking ahead to like, oh, and then if I start hanging upside down instead, then eventually, like when humans slaughter everything else,

I'll be hanging in, I'm kind of. I'll be hanging and I'm kind of like not worth losing an arrow over. And so, like, no, you don't have that kind of force. It's just, things just happen. And then most things just don't work out. Sure. And then some things do. Like, most things just go extinct.

Most things are evolutionary dead ends. And then just some branch and things kind of work out. Yeah, yeah. Like I talked to a friend about the Tasmanian devil. And I was saying how, like, when the first time I saw it, that you had this old concept in your head from the devil cartoon when we were, young. And you see these little things, and they're blind. I mean, they're blind. They're absolutely blind. And the reason they got their name was because when settlers were going to this island, to Tasmania, they howl. They howl terribly. And I don't know if it's breeding season or not,

but they howl in a way that's like screechy and wretched. It does sound insane. It's obnoxious. And imagine these early settlers coming here, and at night, and that's all they hear in the woods, is like, so they're like, this is a cursed island. This is devil, devil, these things are named devil

simply because they were like, evil bad, bad. Then you see them, you're like, look at that cute little weird rat. It's just tiny and blind, but evolution has found its way

to keep this thing alive because nothing is there to, that's it. Listen to that. Are you guys, want to walk toward that? Or should we, like,

maybe walk the opposite direction? Or, what are you thinking? Run is, as we can. Back to the boats. Back on the boats, yeah. Cheers.

I mean, like, immediately. To lazy. Boats sound nice. Let's go. Back on the boats. It just feels like you hear this. They name this creature. And then once they get to know it,

there's nothing there to kill it. I mean, there's no predators in Australia anyway. There's nothing there to kill it. But somehow, and look this up, this is wild. The pounds per square inch of their jaw, what is fascinating, because they had to be, you know, You know, they just had to be resourceful.

Yeah. They can crack through bone. I mean, they're tiny as far. Yeah, yeah. They can crack through your tip. Like, they can crack right through it. So they're probably scavenging. Oh, yeah.

Then they'll eat fucking anything. Yeah, yeah. But they might be, I don't know, they look like a small shitty dog. Yeah, so they're probably like kind of composters and stuff. Yeah, they eat, they're trash. And stuff that everything else isn't picking apart. Right. I wonder.

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I mean, they look really bad. You know what? It's like, you ever see someone who looks like slovenly and fat and lazy and they can throw a football like 80 yards? Jack Black suddenly is like, what the fuck? It's like one of the most athletic people left there is. Can do a standing backflip. You're like, what?

Wait, who? Farley doing cartwheels. Farley was a remarkable athlete because he was a rugby player. But he was just big, but he had that something inside was like a little gem of energy that was like, you're going to be able to do anything. Even though the shell is odd. Yeah, but that to me was like

these little fascinating evolution things that I'm like, that's crazy. How is it still around? And why is it still around? Nothing's killing it. Yeah, there's actually in Australia, if you get a chance south of Adelaide, there's Kangaroo Island,

which is someone I just like decide to stick some koala bears and kangaroos and stuff on this island with no predators, some marsupials. So now if you're going to go rent a car there, they all have the whatever those guards are. Like the cow pushers? Like they have on trains? Because you're probably going to run over some marsupial while you're there. If you're outside at a restaurant, like kangaroos are coming up to you, like begging for food.

Yeah, they're obnoxious. Most Australians hate them. We kind of have this weird affinity for them. You go down there and they're like, nah, I can't stand them. They loathe them. Especially if you live out where there's a lot, they're annoying as shit.

They come into people's stuff. We went to go see the quacas on Rotness Island. By the way, the name Rotnest. We were like, ooh, what's that from? It's pretty deliberate. It's because it was a rotting nest. It were like, it's gross. You went out there to see these quacas.

They're like, what do you call it, like oversized squirrels? What would they? They're kind of like squirrel rat. but they're huge. They're pretty big, but they're cute. And they're fucking everywhere. Yeah, and they're fucking everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Are they like their possums?

Because they have like, they have strange possums over there that are like so much cuter than ours. Yeah, they have much cuter animals. And you see them and they're like, oh, I want to feed them grapes. And then don't. They're like in my attic and I, they're costing me tens of thousands of dollars just ruining shit. Yeah, they're very, they have much cuter.

Their, uh, nuisances are, cuter than ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of the best of me to say. It's like, your nuisance is cute. It would be Australia that I'm cute nuisance. Yeah, we take our, we take our squirrels for granted. A lot of people see our squirrels are like, holy shit.

We really do. We take it all for granted. Yeah, yeah. I'm no longer going to take three toads law, or three, three totes laws for granted. What's fascinating is these patterns that statistically emerge all over there. You can just start making predictions, but just how I'm like, oh, a strong, probably scavenging, probably getting some bone marrow, probably. And so this is, there's people that can, if they say they found a tooth of a, like a tooth,

of a brand new species that had never been discovered before, if it's the right tooth, especially if you can get a few of them maybe, they can go like, oh, I can tell if they're territorial or not and their mating patterns. And it's simple like, oh, they eat fruit, things that eat vegetation, don't have to compete for vegetation. If you eat fruit, there's only a few fruit trees around. You're going to fight more. If you're fighting more, you're probably going to be a trophy species. You might have a harem and compete for that herring. So you can just make all these really fucking weird inferences from finding like a tooth. Just the one little two. It's incredible. Yeah.

You're a scientist. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That should be the next special is I don't know. What do we really know? I don't I, the older I get, now, how old do you know? I'm 45, almost 46. Yeah, like now in my 40s, I feel like I know, 42, I'll be 43 this year. I don't feel like I know anything anymore. I feel like I know less now. And maybe that's because of what you were talking about where, I mean, it might be because you're smart. Like, smart people tend to start going like, wait a second. The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know. Yeah, little you know.

And how, I guess, I blind hope as a kid of, like, what you want to happen or what you'd like to have as your life. Yeah. And then you get to a stage of your middle life. I wanted to be a comedian since I was 10 years old. Like, I didn't know. I didn't know what it was going to be like and all the fucking shit that was going to. Like, no, I got to be like an Instagram influencer or something to make a living.

It's like, like, if someone from the. future or you know would have traveled back in time or myself go back at like you know I thought when I was a kid I was like I know I'm like signing up to be kind of a clown and like I just kind of leave my ego at the door a little bit I didn't know that it would get more embarrassing I didn't know like I think that would chill out a little bit yeah I thought that would cool out now embarrassing through the roof the most but you wouldn't I said this the other day to my wife I was I don't know if I would be anything

else anymore I don't if somebody if somebody was like no more comedian for you anymore I'd go well I guess I've thought about becoming a scientist you should I've gotten some offers do you need an assistant that's only because of some it's only for financial stability and now fucking nothing

stable anymore scientists are I don't know you know you know so I'm that scary note watch the special right now watch bowl specials right now. What's up? Do you want to go through the Shane

versus Sean statistics? Oh, give me the Shane for Sean statistics. Yes. Yes. So I pulled up. Are we separating S-E-A-I-A? I got So we've done his due diligence. We can do some we can do this a few, we can do a few rounds. Round one we're going to rank what's more popular. Shane, Sean

A-W-N or Sean S-E-A-N. My guess would be S-E-A-N is more popular than S-H-A-W-N. S-E-A-N is the traditional Irish. And then where is Shane in all this? Shane would be probably second to Sean. It goes Shane, Sean, S-H-A-W-N, Sean. Okay. Yeah, what do you think? So you say Irish-Sh-A-N-I-N-H-A-N-E-A-N first?

Okay, cool. I think S-E-A-N, S-H-A-W-N, and then Shane. Really? Yeah. Both of you are wrong. What? S-H-A-W-N is the most popular. What?

I don't know any S-H-A-W-N. Then S-E-N. Then, Sean. Then Shane. Shane. Once again, you're last. Let's see if we can guess how close in those three, like, to the number. Oh, okay, yeah.

What their numbers are in the U.S. Percentages or total number? Total estimated population. It gets pretty specific on this website. Jesus. Okay. On my name stats.com. S-H-A-W-N.

That's the most popular. And we're guessing the total number of shans in the United States of America. Yep. God bless. 300,000. No. No way. That's way too many.

No, no, I think that's too little. I'm going to guess it's over a million. You're crazy? It's such a big city. And then I'll go low on the other one. I'll say the lesser Sean's, which is how I refer to them now. The lesser Sean is, I'll say 70,000. I think that's undershooting.

And then where is Shane? Shane's like 45 I know 45,000 Shams So Sean So S-H-A-W-N is Yeah it's kind of

Maybe like a half a million And then S-E-A-N would be 2250 And Shane's 175 Okay What is it S-H-A-W-N 245,184

Wow S-E-N Not too far behind it 236,738 So you You weren't too far off on that. In the second one, yeah. And Shane is 111,699.

You're a special boy. There's more Shane's out there than I realized, though. I'm both special and there's more of us. Let's say, that was a really heartwarming. Shane wants to do a meetup. We're going to put an address here below. Please go to a Shane meetup next week. There could be a Shane Festival.

Shane Festival. How many Andrews are there? Gillis and Torres. How many what? How many Andrews are there in the U.S.? Andrews? Oh, my goodness. It's so funny because I don't.

It's got to be like, It's the 58th most popular given name in the U.S. Really? Mm-hmm. You know what's funny? I don't have one other friend named Andrew. I don't know. That's insane.

Do you know any other Andrew? I know so many answers. I go by Santino anyway. I don't really know. No one ever calls me, Andrew. I would say, what? 58th most popular name? In the U.S.

Out of 360 million people. Mm-hmm. So just deductive math would say that's got to be what. Like? I said 50 million. I think that's way too high. 50 million?

Maybe you shouldn't be a scientist. In my mind, it's all just Andrews out there. There's a lot of them. There's just nothing but Andrews. It's got just under a million, like 850? 880,000. Whoa. Pretty good.

And then I looked up my name. Okay, how about McCone? McCone Corcorri, one of the most rare names on earth. Macone, here in the United States, MCK-O-N-E. That's incredible. I'm going to guess there's 7,000 McCones in the United States. Oh, wow. I like your guess.

I'm going to say, I'm going to go on. I'm going to say $4,000. $4,000. $1,000. So it says here it only is giving me last name statistics. It says this name is most often uses the last name 100% of the time. So I don't think there's any. No McCones.

Other than me. You are the first McCone I've ever met. Yeah. But I imagine there was more out there because there's enough Irish people here. It's a famous last name, but it's never really uses a first name. Same. See, and now next generation, there's going to be enough people that listen to this podcast. And they start naming their kids.

We're going to get up into the 4,000, 7,000. Well, when we're dead. We'll see the ticker finally get to 7,000. We're like, yes. We're not. Well, dude, like my, same thing, my name. Yeah, San Antonio's. That it's a first name.

It's a very, it's a super popular first name. Almost never a last name. Almost never a last name. Really? Yes, Santino's very odd to have as a last name. It's Sunny Corleone. Santino Corleone. It's a very popular first name.

In fact, I grew up with a kid. Sunny Scarlato. His name was Santino Scalorellano. Lato. And I always thought that was wild. I was like, oh, your last name is my first name. He's like, dude, your last name is my first name. And I was like, oh, really? But it is. Like how many, right? Like how many Santinas? In the U.S., it's a, the name is commonly used either first or last name, more specifically uses a first or a last name. So it's pretty even split first or last name. See, I never

met another sentence. But that's just in the U.S. In Italy, it's probably more. Well, we, that's not go over there. We'll get dark. You never know what's going on. Isn't it funny how much sense everything makes after you hear the fact of it? It's like I knew it the whole time. I don't know why I guess differently. It's exactly what we talked about. Knew it the whole time. I knew it the whole time.

Please do me a favor, folks at home. Please go watch both of the specials. They're going to be linked down below. If the second one isn't out by the time this comes up because timing is all over the place, please watch it when it does come out because it comes out May 19. May 19th. Early release right now and 800 pound gorillas.

800 pound gorillas. By the way, great, phenomenal. Great company to work with, right? and they have a lot of they support a lot of comedians for a very long time. Please go watch both the specials. They'll be linked below. I appreciate you so very much. We end the episode the same way.

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