Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Tony Hale and Santino Go Deep on Comedy, Faith & Hollywood | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger, a Wave Series. Presented by FanDuel. Tony Hale joins Andrew Santino on Whiskey Ginger for a hilarious and surprisingly deep conversation about his role in Toy Story 5, life after Arrested Development, playing Gary Walsh on Veep, navigating Hollywood with his faith intact, and the stories behind some of TV's most beloved characters. 🥃 NEW EPISODES EVERY FRIDAY 🎙️ Follow Tony Hale: Instagram: @mrtonyhale Projects: Toy Story 5, Arrested Development, Veep, Arcane 📲 Follow Whiskey Ginger & Andrew Santino: Instagram: @whiskeygingerpodcast Podcast: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & all streaming services 🕐 Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro 02:31 – Tony Hale is a Gin Guy 10:41 – Santino Should Play An Irish Role 14:38 – Toy Story 5 and voicing Forky 26:40 – Santino's Favorite Arrested Development Joke 38:33 – Tony Hale grew up in the south 43:03 – Journalism and Comedy 50:47 – Talking About Pee Wee Herman 56:39 – Faith In The South #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #TonyHale ================================================== This episode is sponsored by: SQUARESPACE USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://squarespace.com/whiskey FANDUEL PREDICTS Introducing EVERY GOAL PAYS! HEAD TO ⁠https://fanduel.com TO GET STARTED! SHADYRAYS PROMO CODE: GINGER  GET 50% OFF 2+ PAIRS OF POLARIZED SHADES https://shadyrays.com RIP OLIVER TREE ❤️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ginger's, oh, hell now. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like genders. Ladies gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Dinner. I guess that's one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that from my guest, but I mean once again today. It's Tony Hale!

For today, I'm your favorite person. Yeah, today. Cheers. I'm drinking gin, which is very rare for me. I'm usually a whiskey guy. Yeah. But for you, your publicist has called and said... I do like Jen a lot.

He doesn't drink anything but gin and have a full bottle ready for him. He'll finish it. Sounds like such a douchebag. That's what they said. Gin is a gin man. Pink and black. Eminem's. We have the pink and black

Eminemes out there. And we will bring them in. Tony, thank you for coming. I can't do, I can't do whiskey. For some reason, it doesn't work with the stomach.

Are you, you're British? What's your ancestry? I think I'm a bit of a mutt. I think I don't, I did a 23 in me a long time ago and it was just a plethora

of different things. You don't have one like a, one thing that dominated? You seem like you might have been a little Mayflowery. Hail? What's hail?

Oh, hail is a stage name. because my grandfather was an opera singer. His original name was Johnston, and he didn't think that was work, so he changed it to Hale. Okay, let me, Johnston? That's off the boat. The Johnstons have come by.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, hello, Johnston's. That's true. Yeah, so I guess I go. So you came from something good, something classic. Maybe. I really, you know, I always wanted to do one of those, where you trace, you know, you go on the show,

and you trace them, be awful. They're like, you're family-owned slave. You're like, you know what, Let's move on to the next. And then I just live with codependent guilt and false guilt for the rest of my life. True. But I don't know.

It's a couple of my friends have done it in and you just really wakes you up to some stuff. I think I would do want to know. I don't want to know. Well, actually, I know enough that my grandparents are Scottish all around. Irish, Irish, Irish, and then my dad's side Italian Italian. So I don't think I'd find much.

Are all, is your whole family redheads? No, I'm the only one. He knows my entire family. I'm the only one. Have you guys known each other for a long time? No, he's become kind of a fixture of our. family. He was at my sister's wedding a week ago. Wow. Yeah. And you weren't there? No, I didn't, yeah, he's subbed for me. Yeah, tag team. No, I think my grandmother had red hair and my mom is one of 10

kids and one of them has Auburn hair. But I'm, that's why I was the most loved. The grand, the grandkids hated me. Really? Because my grandmother was like, I'm the golden child. You always hear the red-headed stepchild. I am too. I have a stepdad. But then it's the opposite. They're not loved, but you were loved. Not by my stepdad. So that actually was on course. Oh, let's get into it. No, he was, he knows him. He is the best.

No, you know what? I was loved. Oh, that's good. You have a good foundation. Yeah, well, some. But like any kid, I'm an 80s baby. All of my friend's parents are divorced. Uh-huh.

You're late 70s? Early 70s. God bless you. Really? Yeah. I thought we were closer in age. 55. Well, you look great.

Thank you. And for people at home, Tony stripped before the show. We do that at most guests have. is get naked in the waiting room. It did, voluntarily. You did. Yeah, he was like, check it out. I walked in and I said,

guys, I want to take my clothes off. You're like, that's so weird. I do that with all the guests. It's what we do. Yeah, well, thank you. Are your parents, were together? My parents have been together. Yeah, they've been together.

It's awesome. Yeah. For, gosh, well, they're 87, both of them. Still alive. And I don't really know how many years. Still alive, this screams Mayflower material. See, these are good people. isn't trash. Like my, everyone's

dead that I know. I think everyone's dead and divorced, but that's what Irish, Irish die young. Do they? Well, I mean, they have terrible health and they drink a lot. And I love these people very much. But everyone gets sick. Was the wedding a big drinking wedding? Yeah, was the wedding a big drinking my sister's? Yeah. Well, all, my mom and my dad

both drink, my sister, and she married a kid whose mom and dad are from Ireland moved here in the 80s or 90s. And they drink a lot, I guess. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're big time.

Actually, you lived in New York. I lived in New York, yeah. Did you ever go? Did we know each other in New York? No. But did you ever go on the Upper West Side? There's a bar called the Dublin House. Kind of sad that I even had to ask that.

That means that there are people that I have known that I just forgot. Yeah, but that happens. It happens a little too much. I'm like, because I grew up, you were asking me something. No, I was saying there's a place called the Dublin House on the Upper West Side. You know the beacon? You know what the beacon is? It's five blocks away from there.

It's got a big neon harp. It's on 79th. It's on 79th. Yeah, that sounds familiar. That's my new brother-in-law's family's bar. Oh, wow. So can you imagine we like to... Like I played a show at the beacon,

and they were all like, you're going to come over to the bar or you? And I was like, I think we'll bring some people. They're actually... They're from Ireland. Oh, yeah. And they'll come to the bar, will you? Well, you...

Sometimes his dad speaks, and I'm like, what did you say? But I play the game where I go, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he'll go, for what, what? And I'll go, uh, fuck. And then I'll have to admit, I didn't, I didn't hear what you said. Yeah.

You have to try. I worked with, do you know Sirisha Monica Jackson is? I know Searsia Ronan. I don't know the other one. Sirsha Mono. I did a movie, the movie. I did a show called the De Cameron, and she's from Dairy. Oh, wow.

And I love, for a while, it was like, I had to really pay attention. And then once I got it, I got it. And my God, she made me laugh. They're so, so, so, just such quick one-liner. Their sensibilities are, they have to laugh because it's quite sad if you go up there. Like you don't have, you really don't have much choice, but like have a drink, have a laugh. And then, like, did you see the banshees of Inshiren? No.

Oh. Too, too sad. I mean, it's, honestly, I loved it, but my God, the whole thing is so sad. And then you hear the actors talk about it and they're like, yeah, it's a lot of that's based on reality. Can you, though, when you watch that kind of stuff, I am interested in this. Can you, when you like, can you kind of compartmentalize it and just kind of go on with your day? It doesn't really affect you? Yeah, I think because there's, I don't know, maybe this is, I have the, I like the beauty underneath all the sadness because I just see that first.

It's great. I just can't shake it. It's like I keep thinking about it. It ruins your day. Yeah, my wife's like, you're an actor. What is it wrong with you? You can't watch something and realize it. But it's like there's something about, I go, yeah, that might not be happening, but something like that has happened to someone. And I feel like I'm watching it happen in front of me. See, that, so if it's well acted, like with those two guys, it's so good. so powerful, but I know there's something so like real underneath it. Yeah. But it escapes, it takes me to that world where if it's like a reality show where people are being fucked up to each other, I'm like, this is way more gross.

Like, because this is also manipulated by producers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's packaged and pushed. And I'm like, this is sad. That makes me more sad. When I see reality type of stuff get gross and weird and publicized, I'm like, we're actually puppetry in someone's life. I get angry at that stuff. You do. I get angry because I'm like, hey, just FYI, this is your, legacy. Like your children and their children are going to be watching this as a representation of you.

Why are you doing this? You know, why? Because I get it maybe, I get it when someone goes on thinking maybe have, they think, oh, it might be this. And then they wake up and go, oh, it wasn't. So I'm going to walk away. Yeah. Someone was like, no, I'm going to sign up again.

Yeah, yeah, they do. For like six more years. Yeah. That's what I just don't understand. Well, I think what I've learned through just being like near it with people, you get to understand they're so good these producers

at convincing the talent that that's all show and it's just part of the gig and I think they've kind of like mind-fucked people

into thinking that yeah you're gonna get public hate and all that but it's all fake because you know you're not that

you're an actor I think they tell them they're acting and they just think like I'm playing a part but you're like you're the part you're the part

and your issues are obviously for everybody to see and there is something to be said about, I do, there's a part of that I appreciate honesty walking through something, but when you can see it really affecting your life and your family, maybe that's a time to step away, you know? Maybe.

Well, I mean, you've gotten, you've gotten so much amazing work that you don't know how it feels to be on the other side of not getting good work. So how about that? How about that? It is. You know it's a hustle. It's a constant hustle. It's a constant hustle.

But you, okay, but you. I have one question before you keep going. Have you ever done an Irish part? Have I ever done an Irish part? Have you ever played an Irish character? No, I have it. What I love to. Have you gone out for one?

No, I don't really go out. In general? Yeah. I live here. That's great. I don't want my face everywhere, too. You know what happens is I've done a handful of stuff? I have a great time, and then other stuff comes down the pipeline, and I don't know.

I'm like, I don't know. I bet you'd be great. I would love to. Yeah. So did you hear that Hollywood? Tony Hale things. Tell you hear that Hollywood? You had that kid?

We gotta get that kid. That whiskey drink on. Red hair, red hair. Red hair. Red hair. We gotta get that kid in here. No, I always used to joke. I joked on this show, but like, they never think of the redhead first.

No screenwriter is like, and the handsome redhead walks into the room. Wow, you just had to add handsome in there, didn't you? Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah. Good self-hmm. I usually do a mask in it. Let's get the masculated Tony Hale.

No, I'm saying they always write the ugly redhead freak. Oh, I see. They never say like, sure, sure, sure, sure. I'm not saying you're not handsome. You're very handsome. Thank you. No, but they never do that. So every role that's for a redhead,

unless it was for me, is always like freak, weirdo. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And then they're given them most of my roles I would even come close on to, what's the kid from my Tanya?

What's wrong with my brain? Oh, Paul Walter Hauser. Because he's like Auburnish. And he's sober. And I'm an alcoholic, so I just feel like, I'm the, really, we're... I love that red when you said that I was like, uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Before we, before we get too deep, because I have a lot of things to ask you to talk to you about. This is very nice to be here, by the way. Thank you for having you. I'm so happy to have you. I'm going to kiss your ass a little bit in a second, but I'm going to try to, like, slot it in so it doesn't feel disingenuous. Because it's real.

Because we talked before the show. I was like, I got to be careful about people I actually really like telling them to. Because we have a lot of people on the show that I hate. He knows. Most people. I would say high majority of the people that come on the show. I can't wait for them. You can always see when a talk show host doesn't necessarily like...

Yeah, well, that's why I love Letterman. He was so great at kind of like shoving it down their throat. I also felt bad for those that he didn't like. I loved it. That was my favorite. It's because Leno never did that. Leno was very, like, complimentary and kind of played the game. Letterman was very obvious about who he didn't like.

So this is a real gift. I mean, you have a gift of you can handle that. Like, I can't watch that stuff. Like, for instance, did you have a hard time? watching a what's the Sasha Baron Cohen movie Borat? Borat oh loved it okay

I was out of my skin Oh it's fantastic I was lasted five minutes And I was like he's acting he's a run for the hills All he was doing was exposing who people Really are and yeah here's a thing yes But at the same time they didn't know they were going to be On a movie screen

And I don't know there's Like the racist frat kids that sued him? Yeah, I mean, granted, yes, yes. It's who you really are, I guess. It's almost like, you know. But I don't know, the whole just, anytime I know someone is doing a bit, it's that pranked kind of stuff. Anybody I know it.

And they don't, I'm like, wake up, wake up, break up. Well, here's the two, the only, the way I give it more, I'm easy on it is because there's cameras in front of their face. Now, when it's hidden cameras, then you're being super deceptive. but if there's a camera in your face and there's a guy who's playing a character was there a camera in their face on Borat? Yeah they were because they were pretending

they were filming a documentary. The cameras are exposed. So if there's a camera that's how they got a design release. The first thought you would think would be like, I better watch what I say on a camera but they got so comfortable with him and his racism that they were like you know what? I don't like Browns either.

And it was like it was like just being honest. Yeah it was tough. But I get I get you not liking that. Yeah, yeah. Oof. But that's why you, that's why you're sticking to voiceover. Easy plug here. Toy Story 5.

Just stick to animation. I mean, it's the best job in the world. You know, I'm so great. That's so cool. I got to be honest, though. It wasn't until I heard my voice in the trailer that I thought, the whole time I was like, they're going to switch me out. You thought a recast was coming? Oh, 100%.

Wait, why? Well, just insecurity. Yeah. And I'm such a Pixar fan. Yeah. And I think they have such layers to their work. Totally. That I just like, oh, this is crazy.

This is not going to happen. Because they initially brought me in because they said, we're thinking about you for a character. And they said spork. And I was like, oh, okay, let me get my, let me get my heads around that. And then they added Buster's voice or Gary's voice to it to see what it was like. And we had this whole kind of playtime about finding his voice.

But then after it, you're like, yeah, they're going to, I'm sure. they're going to grab Jack Black. You know, or something. They do often grab Jack Black. But it's like just thinking that's, and then when I heard my voice, which is maybe two months before it was released, I was like, oh, they kept me. That's awesome. Yeah.

Do you have imposter syndrome? Let me think. Imposter syndrome, I would say with my voice because I never, I was always insecure about my voice. And because I had this voice teacher tell me, Tony, you don't have, anyways, by the way, I said this earlier. You don't have any resonance. You don't have any resonance.

You didn't say that before we started rolling. Before we started rolling, I said he's got bigger resonance. You might want to increase my mic. And I had always just had this insecurity. And then through doing a lot of voiceover and just more work, I've gotten more confident. But I think that's always been a bit of a anxiety. That teacher was wrong. He was, but it's amazing words, man.

Like words are... Why didn't they stick with us like that? Of all the praise and the great things, you took something a teacher told you one time and you were like, you don't have any resonance. Yeah. And he was in an acting school that I never, ever mentioned that I went there for two years. Don't mention this. I mentioned this place called the Barrow Group, which I loved.

And they, like, made play out of acting rather than like, work. Like, nice work. You know, it's like, okay, settle down. But, like, this guy was just an ego head, and he just really messed with me. Was it a case of those who can't? Or was he successful at any point? I think it was not a case of those who can't. I think it was a case of got a lot of power out of very fragile arts.

artists. Oh, gosh. And feeling kind of empowered by how much these artists worshipped him. Yeah, and needed the... And needed his approval and did you like it? And he kind of sat on his throne and felt it. God, I don't like that. We're not going to mention, hey, my editor, Joe, Joe, put up the name of the school right here until... Seriously. Well, don't. Don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. No, but the voice thing, I know what you're thinking. We did... Bobby and I did... Bobby Lee and I did a movie. that's on Netflix now called Goat. That's about like the story of a...

Oh, yeah, congrats, man. Thank you. It was cool. But the whole time... It's a basketball thing. Yeah. Yeah. Steph Curry Company produced it about like a, you know, a young... Yeah, yeah.

Young kid making it to the league. Yeah. But the whole time, Bobby, every recording session, which he wouldn't do... We couldn't do without each other because we're super insecure. So we're like, we need to be with each other. I love your friendship, by the way. Well, we're...

We do need each other. I think we work well together and we're both announcers. So I was like, we should be in the same room. They're like, you don't have to. I was like, we'd prefer it. And they're like, it's a scheduling nightmare. I was like, I don't care. It's way more fun.

It was way more fun. Sure, sure, sure. And they got, so, but the whole time, Bobby kept stopping. Like, he'd go out for a cigarette break or something. And he'd be like, can you come outside? We'd go outside and he'd be like, I don't, I think they're going to fucking, they're going to can us. And I was like, is it bad? He's like, it's probably, I think it's bad.

Because you just look in the booth and they'd be like, that's the thing. One more? That's the thing. What people don't, well, maybe they do realize. You're in a room where there's a glass partition. you have your headphones, you do your bet, everything then goes silent, and then you just see people's mouths moving. Oh my God, it's so anxiety.

About you. And then they're always looking around, and they're looking at each other going, I don't know, you do? And then they push a button and go, hey, great job, Tony. And then they let go of it and go, oh. It's so anxiety-inducing. It creates it. When there's seven executives in a room, and then they chat,

and then one guy goes, right, right, right. Guys, great stuff, and you're like, shit, it's not great. That means they just said, not great. Be nice. Tell them to do it again. We're also performers. We are analyzing every behavior you're giving. Yeah, you're staring at them.

I am just analyzing everything that's going on. However, what I love to at Pixar is everybody was in the same room. There was no division. Whoa. So not the actors. We were all separate, but like the director and the scripts. Everybody's in the same room, and it's super collaborative and there's no division. Wow.

Yeah. But the rumor is, and you told me this before the show, Tom Hanks didn't even do it. It's all AI, so it's... I disagree. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But I did find out his brother does a lot of his... Oh, this and a tear? Other stuff, yeah. His brother does do... I think it does, like, toys and stuff. That's so cool.

I love that I'm the one drinking here. I'm going to drink. I'll chug this whole thing if you let me. Okay, hold on. Before we go, because I just want to plug some of the new stuff that you have, because it is very cool. You also have... Oh, my God, why can't I say her name? Alia. Alia.

Alia. Sorry. Shodatat. Shawcat. Chuck. Yeah. Now I had a brain fart. Alia. And I think about Alia, the singer. That's why.

Rest in peace. R-I-P. Your movie comes out. With Ali. Oh, that's so funny. Are you doing a movie with them as well? No, I am. That's so funny because I...

Is it summer girls? It's wrong girls. Wrong girls. We did these movie together called Being in the Ricardo's. And when you said that, I was... I had a moment where I was like, oh, Andrew, that's way past. No, no, no, no. No, so you have a new one.

You have a right. You have a new one. You have a right. You have a new one. There's one coming up in August with her. And a movie with Brett Goldstein. Yeah, called Office Romance. That's cool.

He's a really cool guy. Yeah, funny. You met him? He's funny. Yeah. Very, very funny. Do you know I saw you at this Netflix party? At Sarandos's house?

Yes. Oh, yeah. Two weeks ago, I saw you and I saw Bobby. Yeah. And it was so hot out there. And I was like, it was so lovely. It was a really nice party that they threw. And I had this moment of like, oh, I should say, I like, I like, I like, I like, I should say hi to them.

And then I was like, no, I'll just stay. I'll just stay where I. We did the same thing. We literally said the same thing. He comes up to me, he's like, do you think I should say anything to David Letterman? And I was like, no, don't leave him alone. That's insane. What would you say? Hey, I love you and he'll go, sure, yeah, awesome. And then pat you on your little head and you'll come back here. I was like, leave everybody alone. Just get out of here. I also.

He also got it. Did Bobby get a haircut? Yeah, well, he keeps changing his style. Because at first, I had not seen him a long time. And I saw him. I was like, is that Bobby? Yeah. But I think he lost a lot of weight, too. I think he lost 30. Oh, maybe that's it. Okay, yeah, yeah. GLP's, baby.

They're working his magic. I've just talked to a friend the other day who lost a lot of weight without GLP's, and he's like, I'm really mad. Yeah. He goes, I feel like the people who got, the people who got their school loans taking care of. He's like, I'm the guy that's like still, I paid. He's like, what the fuck? Why did I pay?

I could have weighed it? Yeah, there's habits, though, that are being created in him. That's probably, that's good for a long term. Yes, yes. Yeah. He's doing great. But yes, we didn't say hi to anybody. But I did prank him afterwards.

I told him you gotta be the first out. Don't wait, just leave before anybody. And then he called the other way home. Did I tell this story? I feel that I'm bad. I called him on the way home and I said, he's like, what's going on? I was like, dude, you should not have left. He's like, why?

I'm like, I'm inside of Sarandos's master suite. He has a theater up here. And it's me, Letterman, Seinfeld, Chappelle, and I'm naming everybody. Like all the famous comics that he loves. And I'm like, he's going to show us like old tapes, like old school. like stand-up tapes that he's got from his vault and he was like fuck are you serious I go dude I gotta go I'll call you back and I hang up

and then I called Louis CK I called him and our friend Greg Fitzsimmons and I called them told them and they were cracking up and they were like are you gonna tell him the truth I was like I don't know because he was gonna turn around and come back I was like maybe I should make him go away back so mean I told the truth I was like don't come back I'm just kidding you also said that Ted asked you where's Bobby oh yeah I lied I was like dude Sarandos was like where's Bobby

and he's like did he and I was like I'm covering for you I said you were downstairs by the bar getting food. That's so great. I had to leave before that picture. They did a big picture or something like that. And I am beautifully in the far corner. As far away, cherry is like, get in there. I said there was a lot of balloons.

Were there balloons in there? No. See this? Who said this? My mom was like, what with that balloon? There were like McDonald's playplace balls. Remember those? Oh, yes, yes, yes.

And the photographer was like, throw them at me. And everybody threw them. And then half of the people's faces got blocked. Like half of the people's heads are like behind a ball. Also, so many comics, they're thinking in response to that of like, you want us to do what? I know. It made me sad. I was like, just a regular photo.

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Ginger. I like gingers. I do need to tell you something. Yeah. We got your test results back. Will you read them off? No. I want to tell you that my favorite line. in the history of arrested. I know we're going back.

No, please. I'm glad you're going back because I forget. We both share it, oddly enough, because we joke about it all the time, is the, like, this slow, incessant drumming and Bateman giving that, like, great, like, heartfelt, heavy-handed speech,

and then him cutting it by going, Buster, you can't do that outside, buddy. But your response made me laugh so far. You say, It's too windy on the balcony. It's true. It was so funny to me. I rewound it like 10 times.

Because you think the funniest beat is going to be that reveal. But the funniest to me is you say it's too windy. It's so funny. Also, you can't drum in the wind? Yeah, no, no, but you can't. But you're right. Buster was right. You cannot drum in the wind.

I can't hear my own drumming. His logic was actually perfect. Mom says it too windy. Crazy did that you said that. I'm not kidding. Maybe last week. So my wife and I, we just moved to Alabama. Do you really?

Yeah, we just, a year ago we moved to Alabama because we needed to be closer to her family and then my family's in Georgia for various reasons. And we bought this house and no lie. This is crazy this even came out. In our house, a bird got caught in the house. And I have a broom and I'm trying to swat and it looks exactly like.

the scene where it's like a bird landed on my pillow because I come in with a broom and I'm trying to get this bird out and I'm like what the hell has happened like it's right out of that scene and then you killed it though unfortunately then I killed this one yes we had a we had a hummingbird uh stuck at crisis old an old house he was staying at and it was in like the the um kitchen yeah and we were panicking because it couldn't get out I was like it's gonna die if we don't try to guide it out. And every time we tried to guide it out, it'd come right back in the kitchen. So finally someone was like, I have it.

I looked it up. We got water and then put sugar or something sweet inside of it. And then put the Tupperware up to it. So it went down to go get it. And then Nick took the bowl. It's in there. And then threw it as hard as he could outside. And I was like, it worked.

But I thought, that could have killed the bird. It could have hit something for sure. Like luckily. it went right out the door, but I was like, dude, what if you missed? He's like, missing wasn't an option, I guess. That line, by the way, I just, I just want to tell you that. Oh, that's nice to say. And I got to do the newer season or whatever. I did one little episode. Yeah, I did a scene with Bateman. Oh, fun. Oh, was it in a car, was it in a car rental? It was, uh, yeah, the stairs. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I used to a car with stairs. Yeah. It was a great.

I mean, for me, it was amazing because I was such a fan of the show. Not of Jason. I hate Jason. I get it. I loathe Jason. But no, but I was such a fan that I was like This is incredible to even Remotly touch it Oh, same. I mean, I, I to this, Mitch was at that party By the way, did you know that? What? Mitch Hurwitz was at that party, yeah, I saw him

And I was so happy to see him Because I hadn't seen him in a while I didn't know much, this is also a thing about the party I talked to Bobby People were there that we knew said they were going Didn't see them there. Like I was like, I think there was a lot of people there But so I was

I was and continued to be such a fan of the show But that was my first job and I was with an amazing cast, amazing writing, and I was like, what is, because it was so layered at the time, comedy was, you didn't have to think about comedy that much. It was like one-two punch, you know, it was a very used, and he, there was so many jokes that to this day, there's stuff I have not gotten, like, if I'm completely honest,

when you said that about the drums, I've forgotten the balcony and the wind, yes. It's the best line. But it's like, and this happened to me also where somebody, that joke where the doctor comes out and says, you know, he lost his arm, but he'll be, and I was at a podcast and I said, well, one of my favorite jokes is when the doctor comes out, he says he'll be okay. And somebody at the audience goes, no, no, no, he said he'll be all right, because he'll just have a right arm. And it was 15 years after doing that joke that I got the joke. Really? Yeah. That's great. I just like so many layers that I'm, to the same, I was just so grateful I was even a part of that. It was incredible. I mean, honestly,

it was like a show that I always kind of gauged comedy fans when I talked to them about that show. I'm like, do you like arrested? And people are like, yeah, I think I've seen it. I'm always like, I don't like you. And you're not going to be a good comedian.

I always felt like because if you didn't understand the fun of that show, sure, sure, sure. I was like, man, that's a... My parents never got it. My parents to this date. Oh, my parents for sure never got it. No. The only episode they liked was when Martin Short was on.

And they were like, now he's funny. Yeah. That's he's fine. I love when mom and dad do that. Well, my dad grew up. My dad likes Andy Griffith to me, to my dad is like the pinnacle of television. Sure. Like he's like, that's a, he's like, no role that you or any of your friends have done are half as funny as Barney Fife. And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, God bless you. And he's right. And he's right. What was that? What were you throwing me out of the bus for? But it does, it is hard. Some people that's, I don't know if that's right. Whatever. I'm going to let him have it. He's going to call and be like, I heard that episode with Tony. What was that? What were you throwing me out of the bus for? but he does do that but he but I think if you didn't get that show like I showed it my wife like probably knows more about the show than I do which is insane and I told her you know that I was coming here to do this with you today and the one of the first lines in the pilot is she always jokes around it look what the gays have done to me Michael you can't just tease that out that's the it's like oh my gosh it leads with such a phenomenal way in that you're like well this is going to be a and her timing man oh my gosh Jessica Walter's timing is so solid. Yeah, it's impeccable. It really is. And then you went on to do a real junker called Veep, which I do think is one of the, I mean, what a, what a tank show that was. Oh my God. Nightmare could not get out of there fast enough. Yeah, it was bad. Particularly because the, what was her name, Julia? She was. I just call her JLD. She working? No, she is, uh, I mean, it's always such, because you've worked with

really fun, amazing people, it's always a gift when they're also really nice. Yeah, you're lucky, yeah, it's awesome. And Julia just came in and was like, it's a team, it's the This is a team sport. Everybody has, everybody's ideas is valuable. And I really miss that. I miss the friendships. You know, you're living life together, and I miss that. You don't think you'll do like a long series like that again.

Oh, man, I would love to. You do? Oh, you mean what I do a long series? I think I meant with V. Because I would love for the, there's a period of time where the last episode where they kind of jump ahead. And I would love to find out a little bit of what happened in between. Because I went to jail.

And then she, all this kind of stuff. but I'm like, oh, because I just love those people so much. Yeah. No, well, I'm saying there's no chance of them doing that again, you think. I mean, I don't want to say no, because I mean, I've never heard. I haven't heard anything, but I just, I'm dreaming of it. God, it would be so. I auditioned for the show 75 times.

For Veep? Yeah, I did. I did, I did a lot. 75 times? No, I'm being hyperbolic. But I do think it was probably like 10 times. Oh, I'm sorry. Julie was in one.

What was the character? Do you mind saying? Oh, my God. It was a bunch of different stuff. Yeah. one of them was they gave me like it was Allison Jones

and they were like Julie was in there to improv with me and it was they gave you the goal but they didn't want to fill anything else in similar to like how Larry did curb it was like

you have to let her know you're an intern and you have to let her know that like something really bad is going on somewhere else like something happened and I had said that there was a mainline break

upstairs and there was human waste coming through her office. And she, it was awesome. She left? She did. And I literally called my wife on the way home. I was like, I got it.

There's no way I didn't get it. Two days later, I didn't get it. I didn't get it. That happened to me on that movie, uh, tooth fairy. Tooth fairy. Years ago, it was with, um, The Rock. With the Rock. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah.

And I auditioned for, um, uh, Stephen Merchant's part. Uh. And I was in the room. and they all were clapping, and I think the director even said something like, I mean, whatever, he says, like, well, when I book you, or something that really led to that.

When we start shooting this. Yeah, and I was immediately on the phone with my wife, and I was like, we had just had our baby, I was like, we got to get daycare in Vancouver. Like, we got to do this, obviously, and Stephen Murch, obviously is amazing, but I was like, come on. Like, that roller coaster is exhausting.

Is there anything that you missed out on that, like, really hurt, that you really, really wanted? I mean... Because it's always you or Zach Ephron. That's who it is. They either cast him or you for every role. Please, especially with my shirt off.

I... You know, if I'm honest, and you might feel this way, too. They also run together, because every time you go out for something, if you really want it, you put yourself into it, and you can't help but think how great it would be. Yeah.

And then this is what's interesting about our business, is we are, our job, and I'm sure you've heard this, our job is to have our emotions on our sleeve because we have to have access to them, and we have to bring authenticity to it. So if I'm having to be need to be vulnerable and I want it to be authentic, I've got to go there, vulnerability.

However, when it comes to rejection, they'd be like, hey, let it go. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let it go. It doesn't work like that. Right. You can't just switch it. So it's hard.

It's hard. It is hard. I do think I don't try to take it with me and being a stand-up helps because we just used to like rejection and denial. Now, by the way, also, I think that is, that's a, that you, you've exercised a muscle that is a real gift to this business. It also, it's also somewhat of a detriment because you become so hard and that even the

wins sometimes you're not as happy about, which I do think is tough. A lot of standups do this thing where even when you win big, like Louie told a great story about, he was like, it sucks that it's hard to know when you're in it as a standup because of so much no, no, you know, heaviness. He was like,

I was going to the garden to watch, I want to say it was Billy Joel. I think it was a run of Billy Joel. But he goes, afterwards,

only then did it hit me. And someone, I think, had said to him, like, do you know, like, of all the people

inside of this room, the only other person that's been on that stage besides Billy Joel is you in this room? And he was like, it was so powerful. It like got to me.

Sure, How did I not feel that before? Like I played, he's like, I played bad as in Square Garden, and your brain checks out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of like some of the venues we've done bad friends shows on. There's, like, pictures of Orson Wells doing, like, Othello. Yeah. And Bobby's just, like, getting naked.

Yeah, and Bobby's showing his butthole and Othello was performing. No, we did, like, the Riemann. You know, the historic Riemann. They put you in a dressing room. They're like, hey, they're like, this is, this is, this was Johnny's room or June's room or whatever. And you're like, really? We're about to go show his pew. in front of all these people on the same stage.

I will say, though, there is, it's hard not, because there is a protective layer. Yeah. Of it's all, it's all the wounded child in us that just doesn't want to be hurt and doesn't want someone to make,

like, I'm gonna make fun of myself before you make fun of me. I'll get me before you get me. I'll get you, yeah. So it's all that, but it's hard to get past that. But as a kid, were you like a very, were you outgoing or were you kind of in?

I was, So I grew up in the South And for a kid that doesn't play sports It's not a pretty picture So my parents are like What are we going to do with this kid? What's wrong with your boy Tony? He don't want to do nothing

He won't throw a ball or nothing Oh, you want dance You want dance Go dance But let me get you a drink But they found this theater By the grace of God Called Young Actress Theater

and then sign me up for it And I kind of was a place I was like Oh I can be crazy and it's encouraged Yeah But it was You know you're called every name in the book.

We know the name. We know the word. We'll title it the episode, by the way. That'll be what it's called. Because they don't, they don't, back then, I think it's changed. Back then, they don't know how to frame it. You know, it's like, you're not into sports, you're sensitive, you're creative. Oh, I know what you are. We know what Tony is. Yeah. Now, we like him just fine. We just don't want them over light night.

I'm not talking to him. Yeah, I don't want to look them in the eye. But it's like, that's, that's the category. So it wasn't, it wasn't an easy, an easy time. Yeah. Now if it's said, it's like, No, it's not. No, now everything is so... Well, the internet in that, right, has helped people get...

You know, it's like globalized the states where you're like, everything is everywhere and everyone knows everything now. I mean, there's more exposure. So people in a small town now feel more comfortable being like, I think I want to try theater. Whereas there was a time when you were like,

I think I like theater stuff and people are like, what the fuck? Are you... You're like, what are you talking about? It's easier to find a community. It's way easier. Yeah. And there's more, there's more like...

Bigger... Okay. And I'm not generalizing. My dad's from the South. But now in the South, many metropolitan areas now are so progressive with their culture. Yes. That you're receiving so much more than you ever did before. You know, my dad's from North Carolina. Oh, okay. And different world growing up in the, he was in the Appalachian. I mean, he was way up there. That's a different world. It is. But now they have so much more access. Like when we went to like, you know, like Rowley Durham, you go to those places. Like they're so culturally artistic and free.

And your brain goes to North Carolina. But then you see. see it and you're like, oh, no, this is not, this is... Because we live in Birmingham now, and it's just like Raleigh. I mean, it's a, culturally, it's just a widespread, and it's so, the restaurants, I mean, everything is so... It's cool. It really, really is cool. But it's like, that's taken

time. Yeah, a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think this is, do you think this is it for, you'll stay there? Or do you think you're going to... Oh, I do. Yeah, I do, yeah, I do think we'll stay there, yeah. Because, I've been, I mean, probably, I mean, you travel so much. Yeah. And our business, we travel so much. Um, but for 30, between New York and LA, we've been in there for over 30 years. And so I think both of us were on the same once our daughter graduated high school, we were both on the same page. So it was like, yeah,

we need to be a little closer to family. And so I'll travel for work. She graduates high school. Did she go to college or she started the workforce? No, she went to. She's at college. She loves it. She's in a sorority. And, you know, she's just. You were in a fraternity. I was in a fraternity. Same as my dad. Sigma Kai. You're a Sig Kai guy. Yeah. You know how much I got rattled because my father, I didn't join a fraternity. He's like, what's your problem, man? I'm like, I didn't- Wait, where did you go to school?

I went to Harvard. Of the West. I went to Arizona State. Sorry, I went to Arizona State. Oh, okay. By the way, same. I went to Samford. People think it's Stanford.

And I'm like, no, it's Sam, not Stan. Let them think what they want. I went to Columbia College, Chicago. Yeah, not Columbia, New York, Columbia College. We all three went to the other one. Exactly. And you can see the disappointment in the place. I'm honest about, whenever somebody's like,

where'd you go to college? I'm like, brother, I barely went to school. Well, there's T-shirts at Sanford that say, Samford, not stand. It's great. They own it. It's a great school. Yeah, you have to. Yeah, you have to. No, I, I, I, I just wanted to get to the West Coast. That's why I really badly, and I had a, as the story goes, my father went to Tennessee, so to my little sister. My dad was like, you got to go. Yeah, yeah. His best friend's son and I became friends. They went to Tennessee together. We used to go to see football games. He says one day, Andrew, I'm going out to Arizona, and you should come with. And I was like,

what's in Arizona? He's like, don't you want to do California? I said, I can't afford California, man. He's like, it's right there. He's like, my cousin goes to ASE. And I was like, really? He goes, let's go see it. So I fly out with them. We have the greatest two days I've ever had in my life. I ended up doing mushrooms on the stoop of the dorm I would eventually be in, which was very surreal.

Whoa. With these people that were hanging out, listening to music outside. I was like, I got to go to school here. Now, it might have been the mushrooms, but. That's not where you went. That's not where you went. I did go to Arizona State. I ended up going.

So you went all the way through. Yeah. And I know that's a surprise. Many of my friends did not. No, it's not a surprise. What did you, I thought you said that you did it. What did you study? Journalism in the minor in English, yeah.

Oh, really? Yeah. Journalism, mass communications. You know what, dude? We're the same guy. And I'll tell you, this is what people, because it'd be like, oh, well, I'm like, I use it every day. Yeah. Because if I'm, probably with your material, if I'm editing something, I'm constantly, like, what's the joke?

Cut the fat, cut the fat, cut the fat, cut the fat. And that's all you did in journalism. It's like, where's the point, where's the story? Get to the point, get to the point. Yeah. I also think it helped me because I finally learned, I finally took classes that I, like, theory and practice of media production or like, I took classes that I was like, oh, this is cool.

Yeah. Like, I found the interesting nooks of how to make a thing versus like, I want to make things. And someone's like, okay. Yeah. But I don't know how. But I just wanted to learn about that. So finally in school, I paid attention because I was like, this is fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I did not want to be there. I was like, this is awful. Yeah. I was like, can I just go goof off and do drugs? Did you, also with your, I mean, it's such a gift because with your jokes, which you're very funny, man. Thank you. It's that thing of like, this is, we're circling around it.

What's the joke? Yeah, get inside. Just go right, go right to the. Did you do, when did you, I know I'm making this about you, but when did you officially start doing stand-up? I was 22. I moved here, yeah, 06, 05, 06. The girl I was dating at a time threw a knife at me, and I said, you know, I

think I'm going to move to L.A. I think, I literally, we actually came here to look at an apartment together, and we drove back to Arizona, and I had all of that. of this anxiety. I was like, I shouldn't move you here. I was like, we're kids. And I'm going to fail. So I was like, I don't want to ruin your life. And she was like,

I want to go out there. I said, I don't think you do. Like, I think she was being sweet. She loved me. She was like, I want to go with you. And one night, she had a couple of drinks. We got into an argument. And she threw a knife at me. I was like, I'm going to move tomorrow. By myself. There's so many things in the house to throw. That's a very specific thing.

A knife. I was like, I think I'm going to go. I think I'm going to. So I moved here, 22 and I've been here I've been here ever since. Man, just do you find that, okay, if somebody said, Andrew, I want you to speak at this conference on, I don't know, vulnerability and comedy or something like that, would you, is that, does that make you nervous because it's, or does it not make you nervous? Because like, obviously if somebody says, I want you to do a set, you're so used to that. But if somebody wants you to speak on a topic, would that make you nervous? Yeah, much harder to do. Not nervous.

but I'd be much more, it'd be much more of a challenge of me because I want to present it in a way. You want to hit all the beats of like, I wanted to be funny. I wanted to be honest and also have humility in it. I'd want all these things to be conveyed

where stand-up, you're like, I know what I'm shaping up there. Like I just did my sister's wedding and that was fucking impotry. They were like, would you officiate it? And I was like, this is really hard. Yeah. Because people also think,

is he going to be joking around the whole time? I'm not. It's my sister's wedding. And you're also not, as a person, you're not constantly walking around as a joke. No, I don't do that. So I thought, how do I do this in a way? So I took a long time to, like, write it and work through it. And it was really a challenge. Sure. So that was more challenging by far than doing an hour of stand-up is like, let's go have fun. And you're also kind of stepping into the Andrew stand-up character.

Yeah. A skin that you know very, very well. Yeah. Another skin takes a little more work. I just have to put it on. And I do put on other people's skin. Great. Who doesn't, right? Who doesn't, man.

You got great skin, I want to wear it. No, what, like what? Because I just, when you said that about the wedding, I just did the commencement speech at my college, and I was so nervous. That is so nerve-wracking. It was so, and because, but people have the same thinking of like,

hey, you're in front of people all the time, you do this. I'm so comfortable playing on set or a character or something. It's taking a while, but I have that comfort level. but standing up being myself also it's like a wedding where it's such an important moment of their life you don't want to mess it up yeah and i mean it went it was actually really fun but i was very i was terrified did you watch other people's speeches no god no no that would that would that would psyched me out yeah like i've seen a few i've seen a few ones that i like that are memorable in my mind and every time i see those i think well that i couldn't even come close so that it would be yeah so i'm not going to do it

yeah they would give me the most anxiety but also i'm never going to get asked. And it was very cool to say stuff that I wish someone had told me. What did you deliver that? What did you deliver that? One of the things that meant the most was I said, if I can tell you, it's like the value that you have today as a person is the same value you're going to have before after any success that comes your way. Even though the world will tell you, you have value if you get this job, if you get 2.5 kids, if you whatever, your value will stay the same. God will see you as completely loved and tremendous value.

And that was, because it is true, the equation you get in with the world, especially in this business of like, oh, I think subconsciously I think that. And it's like having that, and granted, I don't know if they're going to remember it, but there's real power to like somebody saying, hey, your value right now is going to stay the same with whatever happens. You're right. I think it would hit more people than you think. because we get a lot of people

that sometimes send us these great fan messages that are like, I don't think you guys understand my life was in shambles and just having a laugh helps me get through the bullshit because we think we're like

yeah, we're entertainers, we're clowns, we're having fun, I want to make you laugh, I want to make you disappear for a little while but it becomes kind of, you know, part for the course so you just kind of go through the motions

of having fun and doing the job until people really say it's like, it did help more than you know. So I bet you you had a lot of people that... I hope so. It is weird though when you hear that because like people say

that I'm arrested or something like that and it's it's hard to frame it because you just i see it as like what like yeah it's like i'm i'm a i'm a narcissistic actor what do you talk about like it's like i don't but it is a service oh big time you know you're letting people escape more escapism i think we talked about this literally an hour ago i was like we need to be more stupid and have more escape because the world is pretty oh wow it's just too without even diving in it's just things are kind of things are kind of sad on a scale where you go, man, I'm confused. Like, everything feels pretty heavy now. And it probably always

has. It's not just now. No, yeah. But you go through these waves of society feeling a type of way. And the more goofy we are, or the more we let loose on stuff and make people feel something else, I think the better will be. And just for a pocket of time to be able to do that. Yeah, it's little nuggets. Because it's not going to, it's nothing last. Like, I

watched the Hulk Hogan documentary, which, by the way, have you seen it? No, is that good? It's brilliant. I'm not, I never was a wrestling fan, but I was interested in the idea of this guy. And something they hit on pretty often is, or the people speaking about him, or how at some point he did kind of get lost as Holkogen and not Terry Belaya. Like he became... I didn't even know his real name. Terry, is that right, Belaya? But yeah.

No, I mean, I didn't either. But like, you have people who have known him for a long time that go, there was a detrimental part of his career where he thought he was Holkogen. And that can happen. Sure. And it does in our business a lot. With Pee Weirman had happened. People say it about you too. They go, that's, you know, Tony thinks he something else. He thinks he's... You hear these conversations, don't you? All the time. But he got lost in it, I think it was

very eye-opening. It's a very... You know, what's the word? It's a warning shot almost to the business. It did break... Because I saw that Pee-B. Herman documentary also. Did you see that? Awesome. It's so good. And it was just the opposite. He didn't want to be...

He wanted to be separate from that, but there was such an attack... People just attached it to him. I know. That was hard. And he was so talented outside of that. It's so funny that that's all people wanted to him to be. But that's a hard thing to escape because sometimes typecasting is golden handcuffs. And so it's hard to, like you've managed, you've been so dynamic, no one's tagged you with anything. You know, that's very nice to say. I did this movie over the summer that came out this past summer that took us eight years to get made. And eight years. For people at home that don't know,

that's not that crazy. That happens all the time. And it was, I was so proud of it. And it was, it's called sketch, and I was playing just a dad. I was playing a dad whose daughter is going through this stuff, and it's just a beautiful movie, but it was nice to just be closer to who I am. Yeah, a nice good dad.

But to have that kind of, you know, just normal conversation, because I love playing my characters, but Buster was always on the defense, like everything. He even had his hands up all this, always on defense. And Gary was like, you know, just this,

and it's a, It's so fun. But just to play a character that was closer to me, even though when this came out, I have to tell you, we went with this certain company. We're thankful it was released. The whole faith community thought this movie was demonic.

Why? It was ridiculous. It was, well, this is a whole soapbox, but it's like, it was released on a platform. There was typically a faith-based audience. Sure. It was a lot of faith-based audience because they wanted to put us on screens.

I was very thankful for that. And a large part of their audience thought it was demonic. And because it was talking about grief, and there was, we described like Inside Out meets Jurassic Park. And it was just because it went past their idea of art and how just maybe what they were used to

was seeing this platform do stuff. And it was just absolutely mind-boggling. Like people were misinterpreting the message? I think they just, they maybe like to, pretty little package of life with a little bow on it. They don't like messy stuff. Sure, sure, sure. You know, they... It's like if you put the Matrix on Lifetime, they'd be like, I don't know, man. Or even the Bible. Yeah, they're like, what actually happened in the Bible.

They're like, we don't... They don't want that mess. We don't want that. They like a pretty picture. And it's just also grief is messy. And it's, and this was kind of, there was also these kind of, there was monsters in it because her pictures came to life. And it was just outside of how they saw, you know, maybe what faith... Anyways, and it wasn't even a faith. based movie, but since it was on the spot, all that to say, it was a little bit of a roller coaster. But I mean, I think, but it's a great film. It's a beautiful film. Please watch it. Go watch it right now. You won't plug it. What is the sketch? Yeah, sketch. Yeah, and where's it on right now? It's, well, you can get it on like Amazon. Amazon Prime. Yeah, yeah. But I think that the, we did, him and I,

Conan and I just spoke about that, that we want, the artists are always like, I want people to like it. but the real thing you want is people to be challenged a little bit and so what that that actually achieved the goal at a better level where a lot of people probably did like it but those that didn't like it it's probably because it challenged them but isn't that more isn't that more beneficial than just like it was okay yeah the art stuck with them it didn't yeah the art did something too then it is it's as a person because I'm myself more person of faith and it's I think that hits a little harder because I'm like

come on like yeah this is it's almost like you take a picture of a tree and you take a picture of a cross and you go, what's, what is, what do you consider as the off fate, they immediately go to a cross? And it's like, that's a tree. That is a beautiful creation of God. And you're just limiting, you're putting God in a box. He is so much bigger than how you think. Yeah. And so it's a little crazy making for me. I get it. Yeah, I know. And also, we always, when we have stuff like that, where we try to do something subversive or whatever that people kind of have this intense reaction to, I'm always like, well, the people that get it, we'll get it, and it's kind of...

And it's challenging, you're right, I mean, it should challenge. Yeah. It absolutely should challenge. Yeah. I mean, we can't all make super highbrow stuff like Medea films. We can't all do Tyler Perry films. We will. They are funny, though. They're so funny. He is very funny. Honestly, it's brilliant. It's the, it's genuinely the most streamlined, what's

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because my parents got divorced, which, you know, is... Which, where is that in the Bible? It's not. It's not. It's not. It's so far. funny because Christ came and let's go to the beatitudes. It's not that. It's for some reason that it's just the judgment is so heavy. It's very odd. They do this thing where they're like... It is I mean not to get...

Go for it. I won't say a certain political person, but like... Not say it, but it's not even highlightlessly, but in in scriptures it says the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. That's the fruit

of when you follow God. Now maybe I'm working on two or three on a good day. Right. But when I can't find one in a person that you're associating with my faith community, pretty crazy. That's not how it works. Right. You know?

Right. And it's infuriating to me. It is. Who, I mean, Christ was the one who went to the woman at the well and was like, you, I saw her, whereas everybody else cast her out. Like, and for them to do that to your family, that is not Christ. It just makes you, it's very odd that, that. Oh, it just gets me.

Well, because a lot of times, you know, and I'm not pointing fingers at them, But a lot of times certain sex will decide from a cultural standpoint what they're okay with, less so than what's probably scripture. I think it's more about culture. And now culture is different, right? This is also a long time ago. That's a good point because I think people are typically maybe more afraid of the church than they are of God. Yeah.

They're more afraid of the community and kind of the group think than they are of God. Because that is also at the time, particularly like my grandmother's time, it was imperative to your sense of communal worth. Like being a good Catholic or whatever you'd want to call it or being a good member of the community, it wasn't even about their belief. It was about the community of the church and how people felt about you. Which also, you know, my dad grew up with in the South, even it's more prevalent because there, Southern Church is more, I mean, he grew in a small town. They know everything about everybody.

They can't wait to God. Church is where they go to gossip. Church was like TMZ for them. You don't know what I mean? where they want to, they just want to, you know who's doing terrible. You know who's doing terrible. You know who we need to pray for. Exactly. It's just, it's a way to like spread. Bless their hearts. Bless their hearts. Yeah, because my grandmother, in her basement, had a salon.

And this was like church 2.0. That's right at a steel magnolia's. 100% dude. This is 2.0 church. It was like church existed and then so did the salon. Sure. And these two things were linked. Girl, you get in here. Yeah, yeah. Sit down. Let me get you some honey. Listen, listen, what I heard. you need to hear what I heard. You know, Gina. Pull that hairdry up.

I got something to tell you. What did she say? What did she say? I can't imagine the amount. But so that affected my viewpoint of it. Because it was, you know, and then still had it in another way through a different sect of Christianity.

But it is funny because as a kid, I was like, what are we bad or something? What is that? You know, but it does something to you. as a kid. You change your belief system. And then you question, which is good, but when your life in the church as a kid, was it like, was it you and your, and everyone you knew? Or was you, you were kind of like, was it your friend group there too or no? It was, I think, to your point, I think it was more the Southern community. We were in, we were in church. It was more of,

it was kind of a social club. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I wouldn't say I probably formed a relationship. with God until post-college. Yeah. Yeah, when kind of stuff hit the fan. And I woke up to the fact, oh, I need to lean on something bigger than me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome.

And when people say, I think it's, you know, in conversation, like, if they see religion or faith as a crutch, you know, I'm always like, give me two crutches, man. Life is not easy. Do you have religious wheelchair over there? Because I'd like to roll through life with that. Exactly. Well, and then the other thing is I saw it through a bunch of different versions because of my parents' version, and then my biological father, who was in the program where they find faith very heavily, and that's a big part of his life.

So I got two different viewpoints of it, which is why I kind of feel the way. I feel like I'm a meshing of the two. Like I got the traditional stuff, and then I got a kind of non-traditional viewpoint, which ironically, some people who are very faith-based judge the other side of it, but you're like, it's so funny. They're finding it a different way. It tends to be the language is judgment. And to your point, like when people find out, I'm a, my faith is very important to me, you always, I always have to take into consideration.

They're looking through so many different filters. Totally. You know, the religious abuse, the, like, I mean, all this kind of stuff. You have no idea someone's story. No. And so it's always about just trying to be, or I try to always be curious. You're like, please let me know your story. Yeah, let me fill it in.

Yeah. That's good. Man, I got a bigger crush on you now than before. Yeah. I had one before. I got a ginger crush. This was his whole goal. When he walked in, he's like, watch me make this guy love me.

He's going to get in the car, call his wife. No, what do he say? He was swooning. He was swooning. All I say is like, mission accomplished. You hang up, she opens a book and crosses my name off of people that. She's like, got him. That's who we need to last.

It is cool to say that you move down that. I'm so interested in moving away. By the way, I wear this hot for you because it's orange. I do like that. And it's Pixar. Oh, it is Pixar. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're the, well, you're Pixar's Golden Child now.

How many Pixar films have you done? Just two. Well, I'm thankful. Two massive franchises. Two, yeah. Do you know what's so cool about being in Toy Story is this character Forky I'm so crazy about and it's so nice to be able to go back and do him again. Yeah.

You know, because Forky just has the, speaking of curiosity, he's just this, like, has a lot of questions. Yeah. And in the last movie, there was this character named Gabby Gabby, who was kind of this antique evil doll that nobody liked. But Forky didn't really have, he didn't put people in boxes, and he was like, I think she's got good hair. And we just want to go brush her hair. And it was because of that, then Gabby had her own kind of redemptive story,

and you rarely see a villain kind of be restored or come to redemption. And in that movie, she did, because somebody kind of crossed over and just wanted to get to know her. Pixar does that better than everybody. Oh, it's just the levels are beautiful. I don't know how they're able to do that. I mean, and they do it so fast. They're able to build these films out with such like deep... They do the thing that Simpsons did for me as a kid,

which was like, it's for adults and for children simultaneously that Pixar has found a way to do so seamlessly. I don't think anybody gets close. Just cry. Oh, what's the last time you cried in the theater? What was the last time you cried in the theater? What was the last time you cried this morning? Yeah.

I do like to cry, though. You do? I do like to cry. Favorite place to cry? I do a, in the morning, I journal. And so I'll cry while you're right. I do like a devotional kind of journal and cry. Or just kind of sit, I'll sit there and then, you know what actually happens a lot?

Oh, this happens a lot. So I've been doing it for about three or four years where I try to journal every day. And then on the day I look back at each year about what was going on. Oh, wow. And so to see how I believe God kind of teaches me through stories, it's just so like, Cool. And I'm always blown away by it, yeah. Do you ever go back and add to something or like retake something from before?

No, I mean, take it and then... Just say this didn't happen, but this didn't. Yeah. By the way, this wasn't right. No, you take something from before and then you add... If you're thumbing back and you see something that affected you a type of way, do you use that to put into something new that you're going through now? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And it's also, it's that. And it's also, if I'm going through something, there's something that was written that's so in line and encouraging of this. That's read out of the book. There's an amazing author.

He was a Catholic priest called Henry Nowan. And he was just, he worked with a disabled community. His writing is so beautiful. And so I write a lot of his stuff down. And I'll be going through something and just be like, holy shit. Like, it's just perfect, you know.

We'll never see any of these writings of yours, though, will be? No, I've actually told my wife that if I die to burn them all. I'm a little too honest. Wait, why? Why? That's good, though. Don't you think that would be amazing to put together in some way?

It's honest and it's also just like, you know. I didn't like my wife's shoes today. Just kind of, I don't know, it's, that kind of, honestly, it's that stuff of, do I want my daughter just, I don't know if I, I, I don't know if I, because it's, it's really, you want to be as specific as possible. Yeah. And somebody told me to do a digital journaling, and I just like. like writing.

Don't do digital. That's like the worst thing in the world. Because then it's there for, then it's there for someone else to take. Yeah, yeah. I feel like digital. Because they have those journal like locked ones where it's all like, you can lock it.

But then I guess that's, you know, something can get to it. What are your thoughts on AI? Cheers. Cheers. Well, it's over. They got us. He's actually not real.

Because so much information you're putting in these AI's and it's like, where is that going? I know. My wife and I spoke about that last, when we were watching the Hulk Hogan documentary, I talked about how, you know, there's a point of, like, people selling their likeness, you know,

to the machine. And I said, I think it's only appropriate. Like, didn't Bruce Willis did it? Didn't he do it? Didn't he sell his likeness? Is that true? There was a deal that was trying to be made to, like, buy his likeness.

I love that he went to his sister's wedding. Yeah, it's amazing. I think that's really sweet. Bruce Willis did not sell his likeness. Do people say you look like Benson Boone? He does look like Benson Boone. Well, we call him. What did I? Come on.

You call me Lord Farquod sometimes. He's Farquod, my little Farquod boy. Okay, well, that's based on shame. When he's got his hair. Oh, oh, I see. We made him go. Because you're too tall for that. Thank you, Tom.

We made him go to a group of girls at a bar when we were out drinking. And I go, go, go to them, and go, have you seen Shrek? And they'll never say yes. And they go, it's me. And it worked. And they liked it. It crushed. It worked very well.

And then I asked one for her number And then she said she was a lesbian And then he did this Literally he went like I watched him do this And he was like what was the fist He's like I asked for a number She said thank you but I'm gay

And he goes I instinctively just put my fist up As an ally As an ally He didn't know what to do But it was honestly This is the funniest thing you could have done It was a good outro And then it was an easy escape

It was a good escape You were allowed to then bow Go thank you for your time Goodbye He didn't sell it. He didn't sell his likeness? No. So I thought he was going to.

Wait, why would be so? Oh, to do future work? Yeah. Because he's unfortunately sick. But I did say, I said, look, if I was sick and on my way out, leaving my family money, like, I get that being like, sell me because I'm going to pass soon. But I was like, I hope no one else alive wants to do that. No, we don't have any kids. No, he, well, he's my son, I guess, right?

Yeah, yeah. My 20 years ago. Because I think people, I don't know if people want to do that to kind of leave something. I know. Yeah. But then who's in control of your likeness when it's over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the scariest part.

I know a lot of people during COVID. I don't know them. I heard they kind of sold their voices. Yeah, that was a popular thing to do. And for a lot of money, but then they have that voice for, and that's scary. Forever. And then you end up doing like the train or something. Welcome to, it's your voice on whatever.

city you arrive at? Do you use AI? Don't lie. It's on your phone. No, I do, yeah. Which one? Claude. You use, because I listen to a podcast with Oprah.

Yeah. Heard of her? Yeah. Popular Oprah is. And they give, I'm not going to get this right, but it's something like 80% of their gross is kind of given a way to help stuff. This is such a, they have a word for it.

Well, he can look it up. What does Claude do? Claude gives you saying they're not their majority of their profits are going to other beneficial things. It says, the 8% figure you're referring to comes from the high computing and infrastructure courts associated with the AI workload for heavy reasoning intensive tasks, computational costs can sometimes consume 80% of gross revenue, leaving lower even negative margins, unless heavily subsidized by venture capital. No, I don't know if that's, that's not what he was looking for.

No, type in Oprah podcast, 80% Claude AI. Can you stick around and do some of this for us, if you don't mind? Could we switch? He's going to do your job from now on it. That's literally how you would do it. Because I'm wondering if that's, it was something like... It says a pledge made by the co-founders of Anthropic, the creators of Clodd, to donate

80% of their personal wealth generated from the company of philanthropic causes. Good. That's right. Which I thought 80% of their personal wealth, which is a shite wealth of money. That's a lot of money. And I like that. And they're also very environmental because of while the water and they're trying to...

Well, because the water is the biggest, right? Water or wind, right? They're trying to find a way to cool those servers off with wind because water's expensive. Yeah. Well, and we're just using out fresh water. But they're trying to figure out a way to circumvent that, but that is a long process.

I mean, look, it's here whether you like it or not. I don't like it, but it's here. I don't like it. But it's not on my phone. It's not on your phone. No, he knows I don't use it. I've never used it. I've never used it.

I've never used it. Well, unfortunately, you've used it if you've Googled because Google now has AI internally built. search engine, so you don't have a choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't speak to a AI. I'm considering, okay. I'm considering, because I try to, with apps and stuff, you know, like staying present and

stuff, is tough for me. So hard. So, I'm like, excuse me. Get it out. It's the gen, man. It's all right. But it's, I'm trying to get rid of as many, even my browsers. So, like, Safari and stuff on my phone.

So I kind of, my wife has a code that I can't download. anything. Really? But I have AI because if I need a question or if I just have a question about something like you know, where's the restaurant, I just use that. That's really smart. And your wife has you locked out? She has me locked out.

Like she has a code. I can't, my app store is taken off my phone. Oh, that's good. And the browser is taken off. And I can't download or upload. I'm sorry, I can't download or erase. The easy transition here for me is this is a massive through line

of Toy Story 5. Please. Is tech? Oh, it's tech. It's crazy. Great transition. No, it is. I mean, it's the thing I thought about the most when I saw. Whiskey Ginger knows what he's doing. We know what we're doing. No, but it is true. It's the biggest, one of the biggest, when I saw the original, the trailer, I was like, oh, it's interesting. I always thought like, when are we going to

how heavily interjected is that going to be into children's entertainment? And that's interesting that they're saying. But that's what I do love about Pixar. I don't think. that they would have done another one if they didn't have a story. That's a good story. And it's a good story.

Because it's so real. I have not seen it yet. So I'm curious. It's really good. You should see it. You're good. Andrew, I knew you'd see it before me.

We do have some notes. Can you bring up the notes if you don't mind? But, you know, that's my favorite comeback of anything. Like, if somebody did something and just want to throw out a joke, I said, I've got some notes. It's like my favorite comeback. Good. I have a couple. You did so good.

couple notes. A couple notes. But just the, you know, the technology of it all, just how to, the toys meets tech, you know? Yeah, it's so funny. It's not like I sound like I know what I'm talking about. But it is funny. It took them this long to talk about it because it's so prevalent that we grew up with toys. Toys now are tech.

Tech is a part of toys. It's become, like, Teddy Ruxpin was like a revolutionary thing that it spoke to kids. Yes. And then after that, it was like, well, the toys were so removed from tech. and now they're blending again to be one. So it's an interesting idea that like the iPad, which is a massive piece of toy technology to every friend I have with a kid,

that it becomes like iPad in your face. Like I see a two-year-old knows how to open phones. I know. It's wild. It's crazy. That babies in the past 10 years were born into touchscreen. Yeah, it's wild. You know, I just, I mean, like,

I remember hearing about that and being like, that's Martian. territory. Yeah, we're in space. To touch something and move it. That's nuts. So weird. That's what that is is minority report.

Remember when he was at the screen? He was like, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. And I was like, what is happening? And then do you remember in the first Harry Potter when the people were talking on screens and stuff like that? And I was like, that is crazy. And then you go to Times Square and it's like everybody's talking on squares. Constantly. Yeah.

Yeah, it did feel like that was miles and miles away. Yeah. No, you're inside of it. Look at your whiskey collection. Do people bring you to whiskeys? We do have some over there. Guy Fieri brought me his Blanco tequila, Guy Fieti, I should say. I always say it wrong. That's from porosis is vodka. So there's a bunch of others, Mickden. That's from Tom'siger and Burke Kreischer. And then Father Time is in there from Jim Gaffigan. Yeah. Have you ever had his? No. I don't like whiskey. Wait, why don't you like bourbon? You flew right by it. Well, it doesn't sit well with me. There's something about it just. Crumbly-tumby? Yeah. Yeah. What about beers?

No, God, no. Definitely known beer. I would say beers wine. Some wines are okay. Whiskeys, bourbons, gin. I don't even like vodka. Jen is the only one I'm like, I can handle. Well, gin I respect. That's the only reason why we're having it. I love, I love an ice cold gin martini.

Oh, yeah. With a wash of a moose and an olive and like a twist. Ooh, he likes a twist. Yeah, because I like the salty sweet. Now when you say the wash, you like it, they just wash the glass, but don't leave any in. Don't leave any in. Get it out of there.

get it out of there. I saw some award-winning Japanese bartender speak about this, that he kept the glasses like ungodly cold, like frozen to a level that only Japanese know how to do. And I'm sure they're all the exact same temperature. And they literally like dip it, like as if you were dipping an ice cream in chocolate. He like dips it in there and lets it sit for a certain amount of time.

Then he removes it in a way. And it's so cold that he like swipes it out and it like crests the side. Oh, that's so good. That's so good. Only the Japanese. Have you been a job? Japan, by the way? No. Oh! You want to have the best whatever you like? Really? Whatever, I always say like, whatever you like, they do the best version of that. Whether you're like,

I want a gin, Martin, or I like a certain kind of seafood. They do it in a way, and it's usually like just one little old man who's been doing it for 58 years. Yes. And he's, it's by himself. Just mastered it. And you leave and you're like, how much do I owe? And they're like $40 for like the greatest experience you've ever had. And meanwhile here, you're like, go get a coffee for 19. I had to have a talk with my daughter because she's at college, and this coffee generation is... You see in the credit card numbers, pilot? Unbelievable. Yeah, it's bad.

And it's the social hangout. It's like, let's grab a coffee. Let's grab a coffee. And I'm like, well, you do have a card at your college where you can swipe for food anytime you want. Right. But it's going to all the cool coffee shops. I know. What are you going to do?

What are you going to do? I mean, we didn't have that. Like, I didn't know one friend. That's not sure. I knew a couple of kids, but pretty rarely. I knew someone that had like a credit card of their parents or whatever now. And this is, this is, this is totally normal now. I didn't have any friends.

I didn't have any friends who drank coffee. No, no, no, no, not in college. No, no, no, no, no. You drank a beer in the morning, maybe. That was like for like 80-year-olds at some diner. Right, right. You know? What are you an old guy?

What are you doing? But now the coffee is, it's just like nasty. It's a, it's cultural, but it's also sugary, sweety, blah, blah, blah. I'm still old school. I'm a loser. I have a pot of coffee every morning at the house, and it's drip. I'm old school. drip guy. I'm not a...

What does that mean drip? Just a drip coffee. Just an old school drip, like a traditional Mr. Coffee machine. Because now when you get a coffee shop, it's super like, drip is like kind of has an elegance to it. No, this is like old school. I buy it from the coffee shop next door to here. I bring it home. I scoop it. I make a... I don't make a full pot now because my wife is like, you're consuming a scary amount of coffee. I would. I'd have like three or four cups in the morning and then I have probably another one during the day. But don't you love that? Like,

When you get it, that warm and then that first set... My dog comes downstairs. My wife will still be upstairs. I'll be looking out... Is your wife in the business? No, no, she's a human. She's a regular human. No.

Is your wife in the business? She was a makeup artist. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But that's not the same as she wasn't... She wasn't a performer. Right. El Magigel, the great comic Al Magigal says,

one headshot per household. That was his rule. One headshot per household. And it like singed into my brain. Kind of like the professor saying that nonsense sent you. One hedge up for household, and I was argumentative. I was like, people, that's not true. It happens the other way all the time.

And he's like, how many are still together? I was like, everyone's working on everything, Al. Was there something that singed in your mind outside of that that has just really laid a foundation? Ah, like a quote, like a quote, a passing quote? Or just something that somebody said to you that has been always hard to shake. Oh, that's really, why do you have one of the first? in your mind. What mind's that voice?

Yeah, that voice still got you. I think, I think, um, what state in my mind? It's a really good question. No,

I have to think about like what, what pops into my head. You know, for me, unfortunately, it's like little, it's snippets or things that I think are facts

that are told to me that I probably have regurgitated that are not true or lies. You know, when you like hear a story or you tell, like I was, I talked to,

uh, my whole life, my, we listen to Irish music with my grandparents. That's precious. Well, but then there were certain songs where I was like, yeah, my grandmother loved that song. And I said this to my brother-in-law's parents because I googled the facts of the song, a Danny boy, you know.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was like an old school, like beautiful Irish. It's written by an English guy, a British guy did it. It was like a British pop song almost. And you're like, oh, that's really disheartening. So, like, I think you hear things about like with traditionally something or that's more what I do. I'll regurgitate a thing I heard. The melody was an old Irish melody,

but the folks on lyrics were... It's from an Englishman. And yuck, we can't deal with that. That's not going to be... And sorry, no offense to you, Mayflower. Thank you. That I know of. I'm trying to think of something...

That's interesting you said about the stories, because I have... I recently went back to Tallahassee where I grew up, and I gathered some high school friends together and just like to, you know, hang out. And a large part of it was I wanted... just to tell stories. Yeah.

Those stories because I don't remember much. And then there was a couple of them that I was like, is this how you remember it? Because when you tell something for decades, yeah. Like, have I completely twisted this story?

Thankfully I hadn't. Have you seen the movie Big Fish? Oh, a long time ago. I think it's one of the best movies of all time. Billy Crudder up. Here's why I think it's so brilliant. It's exactly what you're talking about. And I watch it, like,

I'll rewatch it like every year or so. Because I'm fascinated with the idea of like, we all do this. where if people that don't know it's a great movie Billy Crub's father is dying and he takes his now wife and new child to go see their dying grandfather and he has a very

disjointed relationship with this man and as the story goes it's his father's retelling of these life stories are always big fish stories like it was a it was a yeah yeah but Billy internally is fighting this thing to not call his father out all the time and be like that you're a liar dad that's not what happened.

Yeah. But the truth of the film is, sometimes isn't the story better that it's a big fish story? I mean, that's the beauty of that movie, and it's done so well that you're like, yeah, what is better? Because it's not a harmful lie.

It's like a beautiful, he's telling it in a way of fantasy so it enhances the, you know. And it's theatrical. It's beautiful. I'm sure you do this with your wife. Like there are stories that when somebody says something,

my wife and I have stories that we just love to share together. Oh, yeah. And it's the experience of, I mean, one we told recently of, like, in the show I had to do, in some much longer story, I had to do the sex scene. I was terrified to do a sex scene because I've just never had to do one. Was this your first time doing one?

Do one, everyone. Oh, wow. And I was so scared. On arrested. It was on arrested. It was on arrested development. I mean, come on. Not right there.

But, and I went up to my wife, and I was like, sweetheart, and I'm really nervous. She was like, I don't care what you have to do. I need a new couch. Mama wants drinks. Exactly. She was like, you tell them to get that camera. Right in there.

Get right in there. Now, during it, were you really? I was nervous, yes. Yeah, like, I haven't done a lot. I did a show called I'm Dying Up Here, where I had to do, the hardest thing for me was not even my scene. I was walking in. Jim, the...

Yeah, Jim... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I walked in on a sex scene, and that was harder for me to do because I have to... Jake Lacey, my boy, my love. Oh, Jake Lacey. One of my favorite people of all time.

Oh, he's... We did being in the Ricardo's together. I know. He talks so much shit about you, by the way. It was crazy. Why am I hearing about this now? I know. We should have emailed you, but...

He's so kind to me. He's the greatest. No, he's actually a really great dude. And he's a great actor. And I had a hookup scene, but, like, it wasn't that nerve... tracking Ari Greiner and I were and it was kind of like fun and we were smoking a joint. It was like it wasn't like intense.

But the hardest one for me like Jake was having sex and I walk in on them. And I'm supposed to like have this entire conversation with him and they're naked. And his ass is like in my face line when I first show up like he's doggy's down. I'm standing there like this is so hard to do because I'm supposed to like really me in this character. Like, I'm upset at him. I'm really mad. And also, I'm upset that, like, he's hooking up and he's getting more success in the business than I am. And I have all this stuff. But the whole time, I'm staring at, like, my buddy naked. It's hard to not laugh. And you're like, I mean, I've envisioned it. But like, it was just hard to be like,

if it, by the way, it would have been better if it was strangers or actors that I had no relationship with. Yes, that's, oof. It's hard. It's hard. It's awkward. Yeah, it was tough. No, but when you, when you, when, when, when, when, when mama needs a new couch, mama needs a new couch. And it was really tricky because it was, I'm also like in my 50s, like, I don't, but the scene made a lot of sense. And we had talks about, you know, what I was comfortable with, what I wasn't comfortable with. But I've never had, I've never had to do something like that. I mean, Buster Bluth, come on. Buster Bluth, come on. Who wants to see that?

But you do it again now, though. Another sex scene. It depends. Really? You think you might turn it down? No, I mean, I, well, that's, um, that's, um, that's, um, you'd, um, you'd do it's, um, If it came up again. Well, again, if I go to my wife, she'll say how much?

That's all shit. Like, how much are they offering? I like your wife already. She's smart. Because I'll be like, well, this could be really destructive to my psyche. She's like, we can pay for therapy without money. Smart woman, dude. She figured it out.

She got a house. She's like, there's an answer to everything, my friend. Yeah. Just get naked and go do the thing. All right, I don't want to keep you longer. I know you're on a big run, but I appreciate you very, very much. I love it. This is so fun.

I really appreciate you coming. You can have this, by the way, because I'm not going to drink it, but are you going to be even, is this going to be worth it to have? Yeah, you should keep it. I'll take it with you. I'm trying to think if I can pack it. I guess, oh, I can, yeah, because it's not,

I don't have a carry on, I can pack it. Yeah, pack it. I don't have that at my bar. Take this. Like, I have a bar. Take this. Take this. You have a bar.

Do you have a bar? We'll spit up a picture of his bar. We'll spit up a picture of his insane bar. No, but I appreciate you being here, and I want every, everybody will go. Everybody will see Toy Story 5. It's such a, I'm sure that I know they will. I've not seen it yet, but I'm sure it's going to be amazing.

It's going to be amazing. And the other 37 projects that you're working on. If I do get down to the south, hopefully I'll knock on your door and say high. Dude, I would love it. I would love for you to come as well. Well, he will be the he's with me. If I'm there, he's there. He doesn't go without me.

He's not allowed to go anywhere without me. Isn't that right? But it's also really, you know, when people come in town, I'm sure when you go to town, it's like, you know, it's from place to place. It's nice to have that kind of connection. So I will be bothering you. If you're in Birmingham, please let me know. I'll bother you, I promise.

We end the show the same way. You look into that camera and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode. It used to be imparting words of wisdom. Sometimes people like to say one singular word, but either way, keep in mind, this will end up in the Smithsonian. We've already submitted. Oh, really? For the rest of time, we're going to collectively put together. One of many of my things, am I right?

Please, I got a plenty of stuff. Did you bring me an Emmy that? I wanted one of them. No? If I was like, chunk, chunk, chunk. I would love it. We actually, we actually did a. bit. Lamorn Morris

Oh, such a nice guy. Happy Gilmore too. He was at that Netflix thing too. Yeah. We did Happy Gilmore too and one of the jokes which never made it into the cut was we panned out and Lamorne was there the whole time. One of the like the villain was on bad friends and then he was like promoted and then and then Andrew and Bobby were watching the golf climax

and at one point it cut over revealing that while they were watching the game Lamorne was on. He was just on the show and he was holding the M and he was like do we know are we going to get started anytime? Get started or something? and we're like, and we're shushing him away with his Emmy, he's like, okay, I mean, I brought it. It was very funny. We did, we actually melted it down because we needed the gold.

Well, money's tight. It's not, well, yours are chocolate. I just want to let you know. They told me it was chocolate. Yeah, feel a pack. That's camera, one word or one phrase. I'm part of word of wisdom. It could be funny, it could be sweet, it could be, whatever you want. I have two.

Oh, please. Can I say two? You can. They're both kind of heavy. Not heavy. No, I like it. do, well, the first one is when I booked quickly, when I booked a rest of development, it was my dream and it scared me because it didn't satisfy me the way I thought I was going to satisfy me. And it was, I woke up to the lesson that if you're not practicing contentment

where you are, you're not going to be content when you get what you want. And then I always love to tell people it's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a fugitive. You only $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Ginger's, oh hell no.

This whiskey is excellent. Ginger, I like gingers. Ginger. I like gingers.