Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Yung Gravy

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

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Ginger, I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today. It's Young Gravy. Like how I do that, babe. Young Gravy, welcome to the show. Cheers for years, my friend.

Little bit of old fits, huh? My boy, yes, he looks in the eye. He knows, that's Midwest finest. He knows knows you look him in the skull when people don't do that oh this is good when no you know I'm curious where you know the the cheers and then back down again like how common is that cheers to the table where you cheers I think it's a regional thing because yeah exactly I don't know I know I we do it back home but I do think I've seen people Oh, cheers to the table? Where you cheers and then go back. I think it's a regional thing. Because, yeah, exactly. I don't know, I know, we do it back home, but I do think I've seen people that don't hit the table.

They just cheers and up. In the South they do it, in the Midwest they do it, but I think like coastal places, they don't really do it. Wow, these liberal coastal hubs. I'm curious, I'm curious to hear. These libtards, they don't do it out there. Yeah, it is so, dude. I think it's definitely regional.

It's a regional thing, but back home everybody does it. But heard a rumor you can look this up. This has got to be bullshit This has got to be bullshit yet you cheers the reason that it started Was to make sure some of my some of my beer gets in some of your beer and some of your beer gets in my beer That way if you put shit in my beer or poison me you'd get some of it, too It says it originates from Greeks and Romans, but specifically German people bang up their mugs and shout to scare off ghosts. And... Some German ass shit.

Yeah, that is. And Incas have a ritual where the first sip of corn beer is ritually given to the dead. Is this just to scare off the ghosts? I want to make sure the ghosts don't come attack us! That's insane, dude. Are you talking like an AI or something like that? No, he's on the... He's just cool. that's that's it say dude are you talking like an AI or something like that no he's on he's just cool he got the fast fingers you should uh you should look up so my last name Swiss German it's H-A-U-R-I I

just found out there's some crazy Lord how we hurry yeah it's like look up how are you and look up like avalanche ghost oh bro this is gonna get fucking good yeah no I thought my name was like you know just you know it was like Laurel Howrie. Oh yeah but that's H-O-W. Yeah I was like oh maybe I'm just you know a different spelling but I looked it up. How funny that you and you and Rell are related. H-A-U-R-I. Howrie. I asked Claude about it I got this crazy story so I was. In the meantime by the way Minnesota Minnesota love. This is Minnesota love He's Minneapolis right there. I'm shooting my special in Minneapolis. That's how much I love that place

It's funny people go why Minneapolis and when people ask me, I know they don't understand So I don't even give them the time of day all you don't get it. Then you don't know Yeah, I think all artists that I've spoken to like We all have I mean, I'm specifically thinking rap rappers but like everyone has their favorite cities to perform in and everybody Minneapolis is always on the list. Across the board but as comics bro we love it I think the quickest way I can do it is Minnesota as a whole has a pretty healthy contingency of people on the left and people on the right so you get this like great mash of like a lot of political,

a lot of different political thoughts and opinions and lifestyles. And I think that's healthy for like a comic that you get to touch all these nerves instead of a place that's kind of, you know, not to stereotype, but like Portland is so one way of living and thinking. I mean, it just is, but like it's gotten better. I do love performing in Portland, but for years, it was like, you're gonna get kind of one kind of living and thinking. I mean it just is. But like it's gotten better. I do

love performing in Portland, but for years it was like you're gonna get kind of one kind of audience. Minneapolis I never felt that way. Every time I was there like this feels like a million different people from a ton of different kinds of cultures and places and thoughts and it just it always felt that way to me. So I was like I have to I have to shoot something there and it came around I was like I gotta shoot a special. And I think with the weather and everything it's just like people just appreciate Good things more correct because there's so much shitty. Well, that's what I'm doing in February February 22nd

I'm shooting it cuz I was like it's like peak. That's like perfect time horrible weather Yeah, dude, but it's perfect time cuz I was like that's when people will be inside Wanting to hang out have a drink laugh escape the cold cuz I'm from Chicago. I know it I know the I know the beat of the cold, when in the winter, when you get together people get a little fucked up and watch something fun, the energy is perfect. Yeah, and you're from Chicago. Yeah.

And I know a lot of comics start in Chicago. A lot of people move to Chicago to start their career, a lot of them, dude, yeah. What's the place called? Well, a lot of people, Second City. Okay. But Second City is more of an improv and sketch world, but it's revered as this comedy hub because of Second City's history because all these people that came through, you know,

Farley died there and you know it just kind of became this this like through line for people that if you were a Midwest kid you moved to Chicago to try to get on in the comedy world. SNL people a lot of SNL people went through Chicago. Is that still a thing? 100% dude, second cities yeah. Could I show up and just you know. As an audience member? No I was like a oh and try to like get out of my comfort zone. I'm sure you could I'm sure well I think what they do now is like you take classes you pay for a class then you try to get passed and then you try to get in a company and then once you start performing regularly you like slide your way up the ladder

I didn't improv class on It was during peak covid and it was it was over zoom and it was Improv over zoom. Yeah, it's some kill me is some popular Company here, I think it's groundlings Yeah, I did that and I had a really good time. Were you ripping? No, I was alright. My DJ was on there with me and he's so good at improv. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I was doing alright. That does make sense that DJ does have to be good at improv. Yeah, sensational. You have to be good on the fly. What's his name, DJ? Tip.

With ten eyes. DJ Tip. There's ten eyes. Ten eyes. Tip. Okay. Great guy. Tell me about Howrie. Tell me about Howrie. I couldn't find anything about his avalanche. It was like an avalanche ghost name. I'll uh, I'll get it ready before we leave. Watch. He'll find it. There's no way. We already asked Claude so let me find this. Who's Claude? Claude's like a is an AI that's my favorite one. My boy. Claude is your dog. Yeah, my fucking dog. I'll back check Cla boy. Claude is your dog. Yeah, that's my fucking dog. Backjack Claude. Claude Sonnet, I think is what it is.

You're not tripped up by that, having that AI on all the time and they're listening to you all the time. Like this is already listening to you. But now it's feeding more. It's just helpful. Like at this point, I think it's gonna take over everything and it's gonna.

Just let it be, huh? Yeah, like I can't change it, so I might as well just use it. I feel that jump on board I Mean why not now you're some McCone says no. Thanks, dude. No no it's a little sketch But let Claude let Claude. I like to ask it like personal questions What should I call you like I want to hear it be more human? You know it was some very interesting conversations I've had with it. I haven't gotten trapped yet. I don't know if I will I feel like it might not

be my thing but Claude what is his name Claude of an uncle Claude it's like the only thing I can do name association with so when I was in the car right here I was like you know what let me just get some basic info on you you know I usually don't go into any right you know detail when I try to learn too much about an podcast before I go in sure I see you know what like what I said I said hey Claude I'm about to be a guest on Andrew Andrew Santino's podcast he says the podcast the podcast is called whiskey ginger Santino typically interviews his guests while sharing

whiskeys with them, creating a laid back conversational atmosphere. Some background on him. He's a stand up comedian, actor group in Chicago. Gotta start, I didn't even read this far. Major acting roles include Dave, close friends with comedians like Bobby Lee. It is a smart motherfucker.

Yeah, they know what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just like, all right, well. Claude's right. Claude, yeah. Does he say anything about my game? Am I like, you know, he's got a good game, he's sexy, he's cool. Yeah, what he say anything about my game? Am I like, you know, he's a good game. He's sexy He's cool. Yeah, what should I ask him right now?

Is uh is Andrew Santino a good lay? Okay, I mean I want to know I could ask my wife but she won't give me the truth Claude will only tell me the truth. Andrew Santino a good lay. My wife will never tell me the truth. Claude will tell me the truth Okay Sexual intercourse, let me just make sure. Oh, you gotta clarify for Claude. Yeah, just to make sure. He might be a little too...

I aim to keep our discussion professional and respectful. I should not and cannot speculate or discuss anyone's private intimate life. Shout out, Claude. Thank you for that, Claude. I'm gonna be honest with you. Thank you. Yeah. Because, you know what, that is my private life.

Boundaries. Well, he has boundaries. That's how mature AI is. It won't even joke about sexual stuff. Yeah. Well, all right, Andrews. Thank you. That is kind private boundaries. Well, he has boundaries. That's how mature AI is. It won't even joke about sexual stuff. Yeah. Well, all right, Andrews, thank you. That is kind of great. You said you're welcome.

God bless. God bless the club. All right, tell me about this. You just got back from the AVNs. Yes. And you performed, or you just went, right? I performed, yeah, yeah. You did.

The AVNs, adult video. Not nominations? What good the AVN's adult video Not nominations. What does that even stand for I don't know what stands. How have I never known that adult video? Hmm I guess nominations, but I can't that can't be right. What is it? I looked at a different thing I looked at a vascular Okay, thanks, dude. I'm glad you're on it today, bro Thank you. It's the poor. No, it's the News adult news news. That's what it says It is the wealthy adult video news awards the Oscars of it's the Oscars of porn

Yeah, and I performed there a few times two years ago I don't like their big after party and it's it's a really interesting place to be Yeah, interesting is the word. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I have a lot of fun there You said like you're married. It might be a little different because there are really like There's a dude coming up to me wearing a VR camera and his wife's there and he's like will you fuck my wife? Like I would love to get this content. And? I was just like, no, I think I'm good, man. I appreciate it.

But like, we ran into each other like three times over, like two days I was there. He was like, I'm gonna ask you again. And he's like, yeah, I'm serious. Will you fuck my wife with this VR? There's some freaky people out there. What is he offering to pay you for this? Cause he's gonna make money on it.

We didn't get that far. But clearly, right? Yeah. He's gonna make money on that. And sure, he goes there Trolls people enough and someone's like hell. Yeah, fuck your wife, dude, and then he throws that up. They give me content They make money. It's probably not his wife He probably pitches that for this for this for like the sexual taboo of it

It's probably just the girl he works with I'm pretty sure it's the wife I thought I talked to her as well, and she was like yeah, she was trying to get my information as well I don't have to film it like it was yeah there we don't have to film it yeah they're there real swingers swingers you could tell you he had no he didn't care at all he's like fuck my wife that's interesting can you not care can you have someone watch like you have a girl no I don't I could never no I could not like watch your watching is banana thing is yeah yeah what no I'll that's's wild. It's gotta be, you have to have another switch in your mind if you're able to turn that off and click into the other thing and let that happen.

There's gotta be something else. To wanna watch it is one. I mean, dude, not spittin' on your kink, whatever. Whatever makes you go. I just think it's, I don't know how you get there mentally. That's a long way from home for me. There's um, I mean, MILFs have't know how you get there mentally. That's a long way from home for me. There's um Milfs have been a big part of my brand. Oh dude big time. We know yeah, you're king of the milfs. Thank you Thank you. They christened you. You know that you have a statue down in In Long Beach

The milfs heard Scottsdale probably Scottsdale is milk heaven, dude there was one in I'll just say Pennsylvania and she's a well-known MILF and her daughter is also in the industry and the age difference is big enough where there's the mom who does porn and the daughter and She wanted me to Pipe her while her daughter watched it to like get tips and stuff. That was the weirdest Taking notes, baby. I was just like man man and then she's like we could switch after like we don't fuck each other but like we could switch. It just made me uncomfortable. And was this filmed? I didn't do it. No I don't know. Oh you didn't even get into it.

Did some families trade cookbooks and recipes? Some trade their kids. It's like playing catch with your kid. That's right. Yeah, they were catching it for sure. What's the age difference? How old was the daughter? I want to say the daughter was a year or two younger than me. And the... What are you? How old are you? 28. Okay, right on. Mom was 50. 55. Right on. And you were like, I can't do it, dude. I mean, I banged the mom without the daughter there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How mad would that, what kind of a dinner is that at home?

That's a bad Thanksgiving. Remember when you fucked gravy, mom? Remember when you like gravy, lay it down, mom? Without me? What the fuck? Pass the peas. So- That's a big part of your brand though. Yeah. So you, when you go to AVN, are you MILF, is this like a, this is a big deal for them

to have you around the MILF category? Like, are they trying to get you involved? Yeah, there's pitching for me to do all that, but I think it's been clear that I won't. And I just end up, I mean, honestly, I have the most fun is walking around the convention and they have stands, you know, it's like a state fair, but instead of offering you fried food,

it's like, oh here we have a vibrator for video games. My friend and I tried to play Fortnite while sitting on like a vibrating thing. But, wherever, like if you get killed, it vibrates your, you know. And the wifi wasn't working well enough, but. Goddamn wifi, dude. I swear to God.

Get the fiber work in AVN. If you're gonna have vibrating Fortnite stations, please get the wifi up to speed. But I do gotta show some love to AVN because they, first off, they have fleshlights, right, that are molded after the actual pussy and booty hole of a ton of women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually Brandi Love, who's a friend, she gave me hers and signed it and everything.

You can't use it now. I don't know, yeah, I have never used a fleshlight. You never tried it? No. Bro, must, must try. Yeah. It's fun, yeah, we try, I tried. Fleshlight used to sponsor South by Southwest.

They did, they were the sponsor. It was at our Moon Tower, one of the two comedy festivals, and they gave us one in our arrival bag. I think I did this bit on stage years ago when it happened, but in our arrival bag, it's like t-shirts, your artist passes, drink tickets, barbecue coupons, whatever the... And then there was a a fleshlight in there,

and I remember we were all like opening up our welcome bags in the lobby of the hotel, and everybody's like, dude, did you get a fucking, there was like, yeah, look at this, and everyone's laughing, everyone's like, yeah, man, that's crazy, isn't that fucking crazy? And we're like, I'll see you guys later, I'm gonna drop some stuff off,

I gotta drop some shit off in the hotel room. I had to try it. My problem was, you have to clean it. I believe so. And that's like the thing where you're like so sad and grossed out that you're like cleaning out this it's so fights you know what I mean? It's like an extra step of masturbation that you're just like this is a total waste of my time. Why am I doing this? It crossed my mind to have my assistant do it but I can't. I can't do that. Yeah. I'll go in the shower with it. Is your assistant a dude or a girl? You met him. Oh okay a dude is fine. Yeah I was gonna say a girl you can't do that. I'll go in the shower with it. Is your assistant a dude or a girl? You met him.

Oh, okay. A dude is fine. I was going to say a girl you can't do that. A girl I would be. Yeah, that's flagrant. You cannot do that. But a dude, you know, your homie, it depends on, you know. Yeah, we're close. You can lean it out, dude. So since I got gifted her personal-shaped vagina, you know, and it's signed and everything. I'm trying to think of a romantic way that I could, my first fleshlight experience, like, kind of show her.

Like, I don't really want to film myself doing it, but like, you know what I mean? Take it out on a date. Take it out on a date. Yeah, take a fleshlight out on a date. Take it to, like, a dinner or something like that. I mean, like, right? Like, if you want to do it creatively and funny

and not show you using it Show the before and after you know kind of like how they do on like the bachelor where they show like everything but them Hooking up they show them going into the room, and they talk to them after in the next morning I'd love to see the experience Yeah, go on a date set up use it and the next day film yourself the next morning How you feel I was planning just like maybe like kiss it and send her a video I was so elaborate, but now I think I think I hug it. I might have to just like maybe like kiss it and send her a video, but I was so elaborate But now I think I think I'll get I might have to do it. Yeah, I think just put it on a date That's great. It's great content by the way you take a date lady in the tramp with spaghetti See I've been off the internet for a while I'll have a content a lot I could be a good way to come back

Yeah, what's it? What's why why why avoid the internet so far? I just bugs me. I don't know. Yeah Well, it's the fucking worst, But isn't it part of your success? Yeah, I mean, I was just going through a hard time for a while. I wanted to see if, well, I just needed a break. And I also was curious to see if I just was silent for six months, if I could come back and it would work.

Which it did. It did. It did. It did. But now, I had a girlfriend for a while. I've kind of grown up a little bit. Yeah. I haven't done the MILF. You know, that's what really gets me the attention is banging someone's mom. And I think now I think the next step could be a fleshlight date. I love it too. It's professional. I really do think so. It's class. It's very classy,

dude. Yeah, you take it to a nice place. Take the flesh that's a nobu Let it let it order Let the flesh light order just literally just be silent. Yes Let the server come over can you get you guys something to drink like ma'am Brandy? The lady in the tramp huge I think I know which one you're talking about Brandy any love she's well-known Brandy love I have a male porn star friend talking about? Brandy Love. She's well known. Brandy Love. I have a male porn star friend, uh, shout out to Damon Dice. Oh yeah, I know this. Yeah, I know her. Yeah, I'm sure you do. She's so famous. I shouted her out in a song in 2018 and then when we shot the video he surprised me with her at the video shoot. Oh, that's cool. She's in the video and then I hadn't seen her in a

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to like get some weird horny shit, some of them are just normal ass dudes. Some of them are cool. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's all walks of life over there. There's no judgment of that. Let that thing fly, whatever. If it's legal and okay, that's all good with me. I thought it was just a good vibe and like the girls, you know, like they're really friendly. They got you know

When I do a meet-and-greet, I'm willing to do you know Whatever all like as a fan on my cheek or something or like, you know Make drama tattoo or something and it's cool to see it The porn stars will do the same thing with these guys that are drinking off to them and it's everyone's just happy Like it's funny your fans are jerking off to you too, it's just more metaphorical than literal. Yeah. Yeah, they get off to you. Thank you. Your fans love you, so they're jerking off too. Likewise. It's just not pulling, you know what I mean? They're not physically pulling on their body, but you're doing

something to their insides. They're not gooning. They're not gooning, dude. I just learned what that meant, yes. Gooning? Gooning. Yeah, yeah. I had no idea what it was. I've heard a lot about it. You know what gooning is? Gooning? Gooning. Yeah, yeah. I had no idea what it was. I've heard a lot about it. You know what gooning is? Gooning? Gooning. Yeah, what's gooning?

I thought it just meant edging, but apparently it's kind of like a joke, I think, but it's like getting to an ethereal level of ejaculation and losing your mind and going cross-eyed. Whoa, what kind of gooning is that? Like losing your mind, yeah, that's gooning. I'd be gooning. Yeah, it says gooning follows the edge session. This is insane. Gooning follows edging, ideally. You know who's king goon then, dude?

Sting, do you know about Sting? The musician? Person, yeah. Yeah, do you not know? I don't know who he goons. Sting is king goon. Like, Sting will have these sex parties Google this He'll have these crazy

Kamasutra tantric sex sex parties where they last five six seven hours of like edge lord chaos Goon They go off. Yeah, Viagra. They must yeah, they're blue chewed up. I mean, that's fucking, that's the new world, dude. That's every, I know guys, you know, I'm older than you, but like I know guys my age that they live and die by using pills. And I know a lot of guys my age. See, that's what's wild, because you're 28. That's, to me, that's crazy, because my age, I'm 41 and I'm very blessed and I don't, I've never had to, never had the problem. It's not a blessed. I've never had the problem.

It's not a problem. I've just never had that thing pop up. And I talk to my friends and they're all like, oh dude, I won't not use it. And I'm like, that's wild. I'm afraid to use it because I'm afraid of then your body being like, well, now I need it. That's a big fear.

You know what I had when I started college, I had maybe like three times in a row when I hooked up with girls, I got a whiskey dick, I was just too drunk and I couldn't get it up. And then I started this anxiety in my head, like performance anxiety basically, where I would like start kissing a girl or something like that and instantly just think,

oh, I'm not gonna get hurt. And then dude, it was like a year long where I was like, even when I wasn't even with a girl, I had to be anxious like all the time. So that's when I learned meditation. And like, dude, I had this whole thing, I was getting like deep in it because I was really into psychology and shit.

I would like chew a certain flavor of gum and like associate it with, I think that part was unnecessary. But I was like, I just want flavor of gum every time that I was like doing something horny, I would like chew that gum and then I would meditate. And finally I just told this girl that I had this issue and like, she kind of helped me like get over it.

That's right. But that was a year when I was in college where I just, I don't know, I got a placebo. Right, the placebo. Could you even get hard or you just couldn't even, or it couldn't stay hard? I could get hard randomly, or like when I woke up in the morning,

I'd have, you know, morning wood, and that basically means that your shit works, but it's just all mental, you know, if you're just sleeping in the morning wood. So then I got all zen with it, and I started meditating and, you know, relaxing my brain and being able to, you know know just focus on the girl and not that and that's what it's working I got over it. So Gravy is a meditator. I dig that dude. I still meditate

before shows. You do? How long you meditate for before shows? Ten minutes. That's it. Yeah. Crazy. So complete darkness silent meditation can you be anywhere? Do you need to be in a certain place position? I like to be sitting up when I was that whole era. I had a lava lamp that I was there at I've dig that and it was a desk in my Call department and that was also alright when I started rapping So like I would write in front of that lava lamp is where I would you know start writing my music and everything So that particular desk I

Accomplished a lot. That's cool. Got my dick to work and made and made music. God bless. I hope you kept that desk, dude So I think it's actually my mom's house. Yeah. Okay. Good. What college you go to UW Madison. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, Love that place. I know a lot of people from, where'd you go, high school? Was it Naperville? Yeah. You know a lot of people up there? Yeah, yeah.

That's wild. I love Madison, dude. That's like one of my favorite places of all time. I dated a girl for a long time from Libertyville. Okay. And, oh god, Lake Forest as well. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah, that's pretty close to you, right?

Oh yeah, it's north. It's a slightly booger-er. Yeah, dude. Yeah, that's pretty close to you right? Oh yeah, it's north. They're north, that's nice. That's up a little bit. I spent some thanksgivings there man. Oh you did? Yeah. Look at you dude, in the Chicagoland area. And a lot of my good friends from college all live in Chicago now, so I'm out there for weddings and stuff like that. You're going back a lot. You'll never move back to the Midwest? I would get, I think I'd maybe wanna get like a lake house on Lake Minnetonka for the summer. Sounds like a good spot. Or Chicago, Chicago's fucking awesome.

Yeah, but get a lake house, man. I've always thought that if Chicago had a bit better weather, even if it was like Denver weather, I could live there. 100%. Yeah. It's my favorite city, man, it's home. I love it so much, I just, the weather's so dog shit, it's unbelievable. It's like shockingly shit. Yeah. Like how could it be this bad? Minnesota's just a little bit worse. But

Minnesota's worse but it's also it's like Minneapolis is not as big of not like a size size wise a city like Chicago is. Yeah it's not as huge. No. It's big though. People don't realize it. I think it's the 10th biggest, check this out, 10th biggest metro population in the US, I think it's Minneapolis. That's just big. 20 cities. It's a good size. Twin cities.

Yeah, you gotta throw in St. Paul though, dude. You can't leave them out. Yeah, shout out to St. Paul, good place. Shout out to St. Paul, it is a good place. No, but I do think, beyond the weather, it would be the greatest city, Chicago. It's a little lower. What is it? Where's it sitting?

Sitting at 16. What happened, you guys? You fell, you fell. What's above it? What's what? Number one, New York, New York, New Jersey City. Well, can I guess? Yeah, number two.

New York, Los Angeles mm-hmm Dallas yep I think I know the fifth one go ahead you go. I'm say Atlanta. No no no Miami Houston what's that really okay, and then Miami then Atlanta Told you the land is above Miami dude, Atlanta's huge. yeah, but okay. This is this is metro Yeah, and number seven none of you said yet wait hold on Phoenix No No, oh that's gotta be uh Boston yeah, but no no no what Philly

Washington Arlington Alexandria. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Number eight is Boston or Philly Yeah, we feel like I'm a Philly. Yeah, nine Miami My Miami's way down. I thought Miami Miami is down bad damn Phoenix okay. Yeah, dude. You guys are getting stopped by Phoenix Austin Riverside river like California shout out Riverside did and Bernardino, Ontario has that's all one thing though The ie they still consider it all a similar metropolitan and San Fran then Detroit and Seattle You know if we're right next to Seattle, that's pretty good Dude, that's such a sunny disposition as we went down the fold. He was like, yeah, well Seattle is dope

So I fuck with Seattle. Come with Seattle. I could do that. We're above Portland or above St. Louis, right? Yeah. We're still asleep or we're underrated. Keep it that way. If I had my way about me, I would get a lake house actually in Madison. I used to love, I loved going up there, dude. What's that little six foot bay or whatever that's called? We used to take out the jet skis, the girls that own the club Comedy on state downtown they would take us out there yeah we go rip around man so we like Lake Mendona or or Manotah Manotah yeah my first music video I shot mr. clean was all in it was all in Madison really

and I borrowed a jet ski from someone that's a big scene in the video oh yeah we were in the Capitol building we were at a car wash we were at Devil's Lake and either there was a whole shot where I was on that on jet ski on that lake We were in the Capitol building. We were at a car wash. We were at Devil's Lake and There was a whole shop where I was on that on Jesky on that lake That's dope and that comedy should store or comedy club club Yeah, comedy on state got kicked out of there when I was in high school. That sounds right, dude How were you in there in high school? My friend and I were right in the front and there was like a banter situation where we were drunk and we were saying too much Yeah with the comedian and we got cheered out of it

That was my first comedy show. That's wild. Mm-hmm that lake holds a lot of history, you know, it killed somebody famous was it bill Who died there someone's plane crashed in that lake Did I know this it's not it's not um Buddy Holly. Uh-uh. Because that's in Iowa. That's right. It's not Ray Charles. It's not Ray Charles. Otis Redding? Otis Redding. Private jet crashed in Lake Minota. Lake what is it? Mendota. There's two. Yeah there's Minota and Dota there's two Sisters Mendoza is the one he died in right with a D What a tragic fucking world it I learned that that bum me out so much. I love that

Crash was on Manona Manona, that's a small one. Yeah, that's a tiny one. Thank God. All right, cool We can still represent the big one that makes me feel a little bit better Yeah, the tragedy of some of those guys the way that they died Like I don't know if you know the story of Sam Cooke. Have you heard Sam Cooke story? I think I've told it on this. Why do I know Sam Cooke? Huh? Why do I know? Why do I know that name Sam Cooke? I mean historical soul singer probably the famous famous song you would know would be Twisting the night away or we're having a party. Yeah. Oh gee. Yeah. Yeah, he's old school. I got yep

Yeah, gotta be gotta gotta be, gotta be. And then this dude, this story is terrible. He was in, I think it's Santa Monica, I know he was here in LA, and he got drunk at a bar, had a pocket full of cash, because you're getting paid in cash back then only, you know? And he got scoped out by this hooker, went to a hotel. Her story was, he was all fucked up and he was beating the shit out of her chased her in the lobby they got in an

altercation and she shot him right years later you look this up this is crazy years later it came out that the girl at the front desk of the motel in this hooker were robbing him and it was a robbery gone awry and he was chasing after them stopping them from robbing him and they shot him and the woman who did I guess before she had passed admitted how awful she felt that they had lied all those years that it was actually a robbery and not he wasn't beating them or anything like that they were they were lying and his final words one of the greatest singers of all time his last words were lady. You shot me

That's fucking dark. That's it. Imagine him holding his chest. Look you seen a taxi driver. Oh, yeah And the taxi driver that's what I'm picturing. Yeah What a shit way to go like you shot me bitch You killed a legend For and she knew she knew oh dude, of course. It was all planned out. For a little bit of money. It wasn't even that much. I mean look it was a lot of cash for them right? But that's the story. It's a crazy awful... was it Santa Monica? Where was it? I thought it was on the west side somewhere. He had just done a gig.

It says it's in South Central. South Central? Yeah. And don't go out like that gravy. What is it? By South Figueroa Street On South Fig, yeah I'm not a fan of hookers, I think it's great It's great, hear me out Don't clip it, don't clip it I think it's great what they do, but I can't get into I can't be turned on if

They're not, you know, they're for money If they're having to fake it, yeah I can't get into that at all I tried it in Germany and it was weird And was weird and I was like all right here's the money just buy it really yeah yeah I got a tantric massage though have you had that so I don't know if this is like the norm but I went into this room with my assistant well we went into separate little areas right it was really funny because we we went here our friend had just told us

that it was going to be a cool thing to try. Was it Germany? Yeah, we didn't know what we were getting into, it was Frankfurt. And these two women walking, one pretty hot and one just not. And we were like, all right, well, you know what, we're just sitting there ready for whatever and the hot one comes and grabs me. And I look at my boy, I'm like, you got this, brother. And we got dragged into these different rooms. It's just an empty room.

You picture a Japanese house, where everything's wood and it's flat. Bare bones. Yeah, so I'm on the ground and I'm naked, and she leaves the room. And I don't really know what's gonna happen. Comes back in, covered in oil, and... You're covered in oil. She could, well, I became... back in covered in oil and you're covered in oil she could show why became yeah she was covered in oil and then she covered me

in oil by doing it was like a massage where they rub their whole body on you whoa and I'm like like tits like but it was very relaxing it wasn't like I mean it's obviously sexual yeah definitely sexual like I was torched but they you know they're- It's also a massage. She was like doing tricks. She was spinning around and like, I couldn't even fully comprehend.

I was like kind of falling asleep at the same time as it was so relaxing, but I was also torqued up. It was a very good experience, like 50 bucks. You didn't need to chew that gum or anything, dude, you just got there naturally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only one. This is long past my issues.

And then they do this thing where they use their hands and it feels like you're having sex. They master this technique where they're on top and they do this thing where- We gotta go to Frankfurt, dude. I mean, it was cool. We gotta go to Frankfurt. I would recommend it, and it was an awkward-

Tantric massage. Tantric massage. But it was more like they're trying to comfort you. They're not like, it's not like you're trying to get off to them sure so it was cool That was cool. You do get to get off, but it is yeah Yeah, it's a part of it, and then they would have been a shower You're you just covered in a fucking oil and jizz and you got to walk home. I don't remember I didn't I didn't come but the

My assistant told me that he actually art it towards towards his own face Yeah, I met that dude. That dude's a little interesting. Not that guy. Not that guy? Okay. Yeah, different guy, different guy. I'm gonna go walk out there and be like,

bro, did you, I heard about the- Did you cut my face? Heard about that, dude. Good for you. Yeah, Frankfurt of your travels, that sounds like a good one. Where's the worst place you've been on tour? What place are you like, I'm not fucking going back there?

Oh man. Because as an artist yeah people always ask us What's your favorite place to do comedy and I always say I can't do that there's a million places I love I can tell you the places. I cannot stand Trying to think of my least favorite Could be in the States or could be overseas too What's the town in Kansas? Wichita. I had a really weird experience there.

Just like... I think it was just every single... Have you performed there? Never. Okay. I remember that we did a meet and greet, and after ten people had come through the line, my tour manager and I looked at each other and were like, is this... We thought we were on, like, Punk'd or something.

Yeah, I felt fake. Everybody was so strange and asking for the weirdest favors and all this shit. And then in the show, it was like, have you ever performed in China? In China? In China? No, never.

It's just kind of the norm to just not even, just watch the show, they don't put their hands up or anything. And no excitement at all. That was what the crowd was like. We're not going to China, dude. After them asking me crazy things, like signing their birth certificate and-

In Wichita? Naming their baby, like all these really weird questions in the meet and greet where I'm like, all right, well, I guess that'll be a wild show, then they all just stood there and looked. So it felt like you were back in China. It did, it was interesting. But I'd say my dark dark it wasn't it wasn't their fault, but when I was touring in Scandinavia during the winter I

was taking an antidepressant that was only approved in Canada in the US and When my doctor tried to mail it to Germany they blocked it at the border so like Suddenly I'm out of my SSRI. That's bad. And I'm withdrawing in a place where it gets dark at 3 p.m. and like it's, you know, I'm way up there, Helsinki, Stockholm, and I just remember a little, I was laughing, I was just like, man, I'm so depressed right now. You were low.

I kinda accepted it, you know. And the show suffered because of it? I drank and kinda got, you know, I felt like I was, I felt like, you know. And the show suffered because of it? I drank and kind of got, you know, I felt like I was, I felt like, you know, like the writers that were forever depressed and wrote all this good shit when they were drunk. I was like, you know, I'm gonna be Fitzgerald right now, whatever the fuck his name is.

Just get tanked? Yeah, I got tanked. And it worked. It worked, yeah. That is a trip when it gets dark like that. And I'm proud that I made it through that, but I was just like, wow, this is dumbed out bad. It's actually more creepy when it's all light all the time. I was in Reykjavik, and it was-

Is that place pretty cool? I've always thought about piss on it. It's fucking rad, dude. Please go, 100%. But like we went in the summer, or what, yeah, when it's daylight all the time, and my friend, it fucked me up in a way I couldn't, you're already jet-lagged out,

I was already kind of like wonky from jet lag, because I'd been on tour traveling, and I think I came from Miami? Like I, I didn't come from New York, because it's a way shorter flight, but I came from somewhere that was far enough away where it fucked with my time my numbers were weird And usually I'm pretty good at it when I travel internationally because I've done it enough where it just doesn't get me that bad

But bro when we got in there, I was with my buddy Ron and yes was like, you know What do you want to do in my timetable is weird? I was like, well, I guess we should get a get on their schedule So we try to get on the so we go out to dinner I'm fucking wrecked tired and I'm like, I do not want to be at dinner We have a couple of drinks after we eat. He's like, let's go see a band. Like there's this band, you know, whatever.

So we go see this band. I'm getting, now I'm getting smoked. I was getting shit faced. I was just like, just, I was like, oh, I'm in, I'm here. I'm having a good time. I'm here for like three days. So I'm getting ripped and we walk outside and then we're outside with like people in the square,

like just outside, just drinking and partying and the sun is still setting. It's still, it looks like it's just setting. And I look at the clock and it was like 5.30 in the morning. And I was like, dude, we fucking went through the night because we didn't, because your brain waits for the sun to fuck off before you're like, I think I'm getting,

but we cranked up that, yeah, the circadian rhythm rhythm was gone so I went home at like six or seven had to go shoot with the mountain the strongest man in the world why can't I think his name he played the mountain and Game of Thrones Bjork fuck to be ork or you're in something it's like Greg or Greg or yes what I Greg or yeah whatever yeah pretty cool I can't say it's fucking it Pretty cool, man, but do this guy's the shit. So I had to wake up here. I am still shit-faced Three hours later and go work out with him in his gym In in and he do this guy's no play around like I'm trying to do a comedy show with him and fucking talk

You know have some fun Does not want to fuck around and he's like you know, have some fun, does not want to fuck around. And he's like, okay, after this workout, you'll come to my gym, my personal gym. I was like, oh, okay, cool. After the workout. Yes, dude. He wanted to go to another gym

after we went to the first gym. So we go to the second gym, and it's like all his homies fresh out of prison. I mean like fresh out of prison, dude. Like it's in the basement of what looks like a 7-Eleven, and it was called yuckable That was the name of it and had a big sign on the wall and it said no arming yard I'm pronouncing it wrong, but it meant no pussies

Holy dude and everybody in there was out of their mind just yoked up on steroids tatted up to the top shaved head and Screaming as other dudes work out like as dudes are working out other dudes like And it was like amping them, they were like, yeah. I was like, dude, this is the devil's den. They were gooning. They were gooning, dude. These guys were gooning hard.

It was just like the AVN. It sounds like the Salty's platoon. Yeah, dude, it was insane. And I have to pretend like I'm like, I wanted to wrap the shoot. I was like, we can dip out of here. And he's like, no, no, you have to lift. You will lift.

And I was like, we're done. We don't have to film. He's like, no, you will lift. I was like, talking to Ron, I was like we can dip out of here and he's like no no you have to lift you will lift and I was like we're done we don't have to film he's like no you will lift I was like talking to Ron I was like dude is this guy gonna fucking kill us in his gym in his basement like if I don't do this he's like I think we should just stay and do it so I like stay and lift all these dudes yelled at me for another hour and I was like dude the direction you on what workouts to do oh yeah they're yeah they're well they'll do it's monkey see monkey do. Because a lot of them don't speak, they didn't speak English.

So they would just show it to me and then, you know, point. And I was like, oh guy. And I was just doing it. And then when we left there, again, it's still light out. So I'm a spinning top. We go out and drink again. Did you stop at any point? No, dude, maybe for two hours, an hour maybe.

So this was three days of chaos. When I sat on the plane, when I tell you I got on that plane three days later to go back to LA, I'm not joking, I slept the moment I got in there until I like heard the ding and people moving, I was out like a fucking light. It was a rad experience, but it's, I will say, the sun up all the time was, I couldn't sleep for shit. They have blackout curtains, they do not work. They don't work. You know it's there, say the Sun up all the time was I couldn't sleep for shit. They have blackout curtains They do not work. They don't work, you know, it's there

You can feel it in like the slits of it You know what I mean? Like, you know, the Sun is like eyelids just aren't doing it. Yeah I do that with that feeling all the time. It's a true so go But just know I think if it it just does it does it did something so weird to my it fucked me up for a few Days bad and we just got back from Australia and that that didn't do anything to me that fucked you guys up you going down there yeah see but if you follow I gave them the tools I told them the schedule to not sleep on that little per first leg and then match up and they were all like fuck you I'm not doing it and then I got home felt fine

these guys wrecked for a few days we were all exhausted from just we had just so many shows in a row Yeah, have you done that run the Australian run where you're like Perth Sydney, Adelaide? Yeah, I'm Brisbane. You have enough time to like you know not die bro. We did I love it out there 12 shows in 10 days or so okay hours wasn't like that. We were ripping It was awful in the like week and a half or two weeks We were there there was one day that we didn't either like fly to a new time zone or have a show or both Yeah, it was kind of a fucking trip, dude I mean I love it down there, but we fucked that up because a lot of shows were added after like yeah

We added shows that that's the problem. I love doing that like ahead of time I'm like yeah add them all in there. Yeah, they're like when you start doing it It's like oh fuck like I got bad I had three shows in national one time in the same day and I was just it was like by the third one I'm like blacked out. I'm like Why am I doing this? What do you play in Nashville? I've done marathon mostly. Okay, but this was we had Brooklyn Bowl. Oh, wow Have you ever played?

exit something Which was a lot of fun. Have you ever played... Exit something? Ryman? Ryman, the Ryman. I think I... The Ryman's like a church. Oh, that's the one where L. King kinda talked some shit. Oh, she did? I think so, yeah. What did she say? I was trying to hang out with her like right around my time. I don't know, she said some not religious...

I could be totally lying right now, maybe looking up. No, but it's at the Ryman, she said some wild shit? I believe so, yeah. Cause it's like a historic venue. It was like where Johnny Cash... It's where the Grand Ole Opry used to be. The Grand Ole Opry used to be there. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Because it's like a historic venue. It was like where Johnny Cash, it's where the grand old opera used to be. The grand old opera used to be there. Yeah, exactly, that's the place.

That's the place. That's what happened to me is like accidentally say some, the wrong shit. Some wrong shit. Yeah, but let me tell you something. I don't even know you, we just met, but your soul is good. I can tell you're not like a evil cat.

You don't have, like if you said something that you were like, fuck, I didn't mean that. I'd believe you. Do you know what I mean? Right back, oh, he just said something on accident. There's no evil in your soul. Thank you, man. I can feel right away.

I'm like, nah, if you were like, I didn't mean that, I just was, I kind of slipped up. Like we all slip up. Honestly, I just don't really care about a lot. Like I don't understand why people hate things. Yeah, you're not that kind of guy. You know, I just, I can't really hate things. It's a waste of your time.

It's really hard to make me mad. My friends will tell you like I'll get mad maybe like twice a year. And when I'm like mad it's over something serious and I get like I'm a different person. Sure. But it's very rare. It's really hard like I don't understand road rage. I'll get when people have road rage I make fun of them. I'm like, I'll get over it.

Yeah, it already happened. Yeah. Yeah, you know That that's it. That's like a it's a mentality and I play a lot of golf I love golf golf has taught me some real patience and a lot of philosophy of the world because it you deal with all these problems And it's only you it's you versus you which is kind of beautiful Even if you're playing other people you're really just playing yourself truly like I have to start playing golf you do it It's the best but it's a it's a great mental game like if you're playing other people you're really just playing yourself truly. Like I have to start playing golf. You do it it's the best but it's a great mental game like if you beyond the fact that people can whatever shit people don't like about golf the beauty is you kind of just you have to refocus every time you play a shot and it's a mental test. If you are you have the mechanics it's more about like how well can this function with this at the same time.

And a big thing that I say in golf is when someone has a bad shot, if I'm with a friend who's having a bad day, they hit a bad shot and I'm like, it already happened, it's over, it already happened. Which is kind of the philosophy that we're talking about. It's like, you can't get that mad, dude, it's over. So if you're mad about it, it ended already.

The thing you're mad about is over. It's gone. Some cost. Yes, so just go on to the next thing. So there was a great book that I would recommend you reading, even if you're just starting to want to get into golf. But there's this guy, Rotella,

that wrote a book called Putting Out of Your Mind and then Golf is Not a Game of Perfect. And the golf is not a game of perfect, it's more a philosophy book. It's golf, but you could just, it's for life. He's saying all these things of like, life is gonna fuck with you all the time, just like golf. But if you're just, it's for life. He's saying all these things of like, life is gonna fuck with you all the time, just like golf.

But if you're sitting in it, and you're constantly stewing about a thing that already happened, you'll never be able to re-focus for the next thing to be good, it's impossible. And that's life shit, it's the same thing you were talking about. It's like you're in traffic, you're fucking pissed off,

it's like it's already happened, it's over. You literally can't change it. That's how I feel about everything now, like when I'm on a flight, flight. It's delayed or it's late or sitting on a gate and all that shit I'm like, well It's over. I fucking can't get up there. I mean I would love to I do want to I do want to pull on one of those Things at some point. What did I tell you? What did I tell you? Look up just for a second. I blanked out. Oh You look up the example of a there's some really good example of a sunk cost some do like a plane Yeah, I hit you with some of my just say right before this I blanked out on my mind

Of no evil in your soul the L. King thing did she say something bad? No, she was just drunk and it was for like I think it's for Dolly Parton And she like fucked up some of the lyrics and she was hammered and she swore and I guess you're not really supposed to see like Well, you're not supposed to swear there. We swear the Bobby was we put on a filthy fucking yes Yeah, I don't get why I was going to think it was because she's a country music artist and that's country music Haven I think people felt it was disrespectful because it was for a tribute specific concert And she was like kind of drunk and forgot the lyrics. Let me tell you something I mean, do you think of the other part?

I don't know enough about the apartment. do you think she would care she was there because she cares I highly doubt it I'd be drunk and have fun. She seems like a pretty rad fucking person. Yeah, everything you see of Dolly Parton You're like, oh, she's the shit. Yeah, what the fuck? All of it are saying fans. Nothing is from Parton directly See, but this is the thing there is a delicate nature to the country music world that they like things the way they like things And if you like shake the thing up they get fucking mad which is not like that in rock or indie or rap or like that the audiences are much more malleable in other genres country for some reason is like do it the way we like it or we're gonna get fucking upset at you This is a good time for me to give you this hat. I Wasn't just wearing this to to wear it. I was leaving my house and I was like I need to give him a gift

Dude, this is fucking beautiful. Yeah, that's from the Tacovas in Austin. Wow. I have a bunch of cowboy hats now. It is probably gonna be too big for my small hat. I mean, we'll see, you know. Oh, but it looks perfect. It looks all right, yeah.

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Experimental country trap album last year. Yeah? Serving Country. Serving Country. And it was just mainly a thing for Fond and to learn a lot of shit because I had never learned how to sing or play instruments. I was just straight SoundCloud rapper. Right. But my friends and I, you know, I met Shania Twain. We got really close. Well, hold on.

How rad is that? It was awesome. She's so cool. I just met her. Honestly, when I met her, I didn't know. I was just on my gravy shit. I saw this somewhat older than me woman that was pretty, and I was like, I'm gonna go talk to her. I was at a Grammy party.

I didn't know who she was, because she always changes her hair color. Yeah. So I went up and I started talking to her, and we just got along really well. And then I met her husband, who's Swiss. My dad was Swiss. And we bonded over the fact, like, kind of like, I lost my dad.

He is coming into her family, and he's like this new dad figure. So we had this really cute bond immediately. That's tough. And then I went to her house. We made some music together. We actually made like six songs. Whoa.

Like the first session we did. We were in Milwaukee at, she flew me out to Milwaukee. I love Milwaukee. And we did it in a studio. What was the studio called? But we were in there together for like 14 hours. Just everyone else is like falling asleep. Me and Shania are just locked in, just going crazy.

And anyways, I met her. I got close with Hardy and Morgan Wallen and all these guys. You know, this is a really cool industry it's time that I you know learn some other instruments and just try something and See if people can fuck with it. Yeah, so We're not getting having too much fun. I made a whole album I was giving an EP but I mean we made a full album which you know, I love it. I'm proud of it, but uh It was at the same time where everybody then started as I'm

about to drop it Beyonce did hers sure and then everyone else is dropping it so I kind of just look like a bandwagon guy but I I think I did a really good job of gravy fine the country shit like like yeah you guys gotta listen to if you want down it's a great you find the country world yeah gravy is a major fixture of kind of Southern culture. Yeah. So you fit perfectly. So we were in there, I mean, should I spend a night at Zach Brown's house, we made a song.

Phenomenal. I worked with Shania on plenty of records. There's Brantley Gilbert in there too. You hit all the big names. Yeah, I mean, I was going around and then I'm actually in that bitch singing. That's wild. Singing, playing some instruments and what not. Would you play, would you learn how to play? The guitar. Yeah. I'm not good. And the harmonica. Basically I would, my producer, Diamond Pistols, we did the whole album together, shout out to him, and He would mostly cut all the final shit, but sometimes I'd be like, hey, let me, let me die.

Yeah, let me. So I know, you know. The be like, hey, let me die. Yeah, let me. So I know. The guitar though, a shout out to anybody that can play any instrument. It's so fucking hard. Bro, I give so many props, and people are always like, my wife, I got my wife a piano.

She's played piano since she was a kid, and I bought her a piano for Christmas, because I was like, That's hot. She loves, I was like, and we've never, we like always kind of like, we had a keyboard in our first apartment and for years she had it and she played a little bit but I was like when we go home to

her mom's house she'd play piano and I was always like man I wish we had a fucking piano and then finally this year I was like we can afford a fucking nice piano you have it in your house yeah there were times when you like you're trying to sleep and someone's playing it? No, no. You have an ace through the whole house. No, but it is loud as fuck. Yeah. No, there's no, it's not quiet at all. But I was like I'm gonna buy her the piano. And now when she plays it, even when she fucks up, I'm like a, I'm like a kid. Like I'll watch her and be like that's amazing. She's like this isn't even that good. I'm

like that doesn't matter. I can't play I can't play any instruments So to me when anybody even fucks around a guitar. I'm like oh, dude No, it's really it always impresses me cuz even hours that someone has to put in to be even decent That's my point. Yes, I'm saying it's people don't give it enough credit when someone's like he's okay. It's like yeah, dude It's a cut. That's how I feel about anything making music doing stand-up is like When you see a final product and you're like, oh, that's great. Making music, doing stand-up is like, when you see a final product, and you're like, oh, that's great, and you're like, it is great, it's also impressive

how much time people put into that shit. If you only fucking knew, it's insane. It's like a, it's, you know, not trying to suck our own dicks. Yeah, I mean, dude, I'm- But it's crazy how much time, like, look what you put in with Shania, like, look what you put into these things.

You do want people to feel that a little bit. dude. I really busted my ass so when people do say anything Negative or positive you're like just no I fucking this is my this is like. Yeah, it's like the thing I love the most I had the most fun making that project and I wanted to see if my fans would like go along with it and a lot of them I mean most of them did I did a whole tour? The serving country to her grits and Gravy, is what we called it. And I brought a band, a whole band, and we would do, you know, I'd do all my, like, normal rap hits,

and then go offstage and dress into, like, a full Nudie Cohen suit and wear a cowboy hat and come back out with a band. We'd do the country music, and then we would do, like, covers of my normal songs with instruments and stuff. And it was awesome. You'd, like, put a country spin on the cover of your... We do the country music and then we would do like covers of my normal songs with instruments and stuff. Oh, that's cool It was awesome. Yeah, I put a country spin on the cover of your a little bit We did country spin mostly it was just I played the normal trap shit

And they just add a little extra but the fans as it were Yeah, they loved it and it was it was cool to see that You know I gained like I gained a lot of new fans where I wasn't used to having meet-and-greets were you know? Three-fourths the meet-and-g greet are like women that are older than me, rather than it being like high school kids. And the crowds are more chill, they're all just drinking, having a good time, and it felt like I was at like a different person show.

So that was awesome, and you know, it's cool now that I'm just going back to rap. People are like, you know, like, yeah, you did it. You know, I'm like, yeah, it feels good. Does that feel right on you? Because you don't have to like yeah, you did it. Yeah, that is new. It feels good. Does that feel right on you? Because you don't have to wear it. I like it.

You don't have to. I gotta tell you something, it makes me feel stoic. Good. I feel like I wanna, I really, I don't smoke anymore, but I feel like I wanna smoke. Smoke a dart inside. Yeah, big time, dude. It just feels like I'm supposed to do something like that. Once you start wearing them, it's addictive.

I've never had a cowboy hat, and'm 100% going to wear this more often. I'm in, dude, I got sold on it. It was between that and the black one. I thought, you know, I think that's you. No, white on white makes sense. I pop a little bit. You know what I mean? I need this. You know, you're white. The blonde pops. I am white. Yeah, you're very white, dude. We're similar in love with white.

Yeah, we're similar tone. What's your Irish obviously Irish and Italian my dad Sicilian side and although it is funny I see all this shit on the internet makes me mad when someone's like why are these Americans saying that they're Italian or Irish or it's like you're American they hate this the fucking like Europeans can't stand it I feel like it's just Irish people like Italians you say that you'll go to you know if you say to an Italian ever fucking like Europeans can't stand it. I feel like it's just Irish people. Yeah, I think it might just be Irish people. No, it's like Italians, you say that,

you'll go to, you know, if you say to an Italian ever, oh yeah, my dad's family's Italian, like, you're American. Yeah. Yeah, they always step on that. Unless you're like- You know what I'm talking about, that bothers me, that's fucking annoying. See, I feel more legit because my dad's actually born and raised in Switzerland, so I'm like- Yeah, you are legit. Swiss, Swiss.

You are Swiss. I'm a citizen and have a passport and everything. But you you were born here right? I was born here Yeah, so your dad moved to Minneapolis moved to a bunch of different places He was a professor at Dartmouth first fuck my dad came up like small village in Switzerland. They're pretty poor I Have gone there Visited all I mean all of his siblings have died in accidents. It's crazy Very interesting really background. What are are we talking, like car crashes? Like car crash, bike accident, like- Motorcycle bike? Just bicycle. No, bicycle? Head damage like that. What? Yeah, yeah. The

craziest, saddest one is that there was his older sister, she was about 60, I think, and her husband was a rock climber. He fell rock climbing when he's like 60 as well. And he's in a, you know, almost death condition at the hospital. And she's so scared driving there that she crashes her car and they both died at the same time. What, dude? Yeah. Did you have a song about that?

To me it's almost like, you know, it's tragic but it's kind of romantic. Yeah, it's poetic. It's kind of like when you hear about an old person, like one of them dies and then the other one dies a week later from like broken heart syndrome or whatever. Yeah, they're just like fuck it. It's kind of rad. Yeah. You know, I think once you've gotten to, I don't know, this could be between me, but

like after you reach a certain age, like I'd be,'t be mad if I what's your age? What's that? What is that? What's the cresting? I mean, I I would love to live longer But I feel like I'm lucky enough to have done the things I wanted to like I could die happy now right now I think so. Whoa, but it would be awesome to have a kid and family and do that thing Yeah, I think the goal is at least 60, but I wouldn't complain. I promise you're gonna make it to 60.

I think I will. Yeah, dude, I'll bet my bank account. Thank you. Well, also, technology is only getting better for health longevity, and you're still young, where you're gonna see the technology get better and better. I'm 41, I hope I make it. We're not that far apart.

Well, dude, 41, I'm not that far apart. Well dude 41 I'm something about 40 does something to your bones. You changed. They made that movie brother. This is 40. That's it's all in your head bro. Yeah that's true bro. Wasn't that movie about people needing to grow up? Isn't that like the core of that film? I think it was just about I thought you're bringing up a different movie I think it's just about this is 40 is like it's like oh well this sucks yeah yeah yeah so I'm telling you yeah it all gets harder no you know what it is it's just like you see more at my age now I see more you see more lives solidified or shattered, right?

Like you see more people growing their family into like children, having a lot of kids. You see people that have gone through tragic divorces or death and stuff. So you really see it's more polar when you get to my age. You know, not like I'm an old wise man. I'm just saying like something about in the age of around the 40s when it started happening.

I'd see a lot of friends with like multiple kids and they had to move and somebody died, you know, unfortunately, or they got a divorce and lives are shattered or they're grown. And I think it happens around 40 in a way that... I think, I mean, I'm approaching 30. I think, you know, every year. You're seeing a start, huh?

Yeah, every year. You're seeing probably more of your friends getting married and shit too. Yeah, a lot. 30's like, all your boys are getting married. Back in the Midwest, a lot of people are getting married. Right. Here, it's like, you know,

I mean, friends getting overdosed and shit. Like yeah facts dark, but you know fortunate fat Yeah, it's crazy to see every year, you know a lot of changes something bad happens. Will you stay some straight? No, you're good. And now you're working on a new album, right? And then are you on tour or no? It's a good transition. Yeah, I had to I Am taking some time off from touring man. I toured pretty much since I started rapping. I don't think I, besides like a year during COVID, I've been pretty much nonstop touring, you know, max three weeks off since 2018, besides that one year. And I'm finally chilling, know it I've bought a house

about a year and a half ago congrats thank you cheers that's great and I live with like two of my best friends and we have a dog so I kind of feel like a dog he is German Shepherd Aussie Shepherd mix with little Rottweiler his name is Hendrix Hendrix we found him in a dumpster and Seriously? He was a cute ass puppy. Here in LA? Here in LA. In a fucking dumpster? I didn't find him I was on a flight, but my roommate did and yeah, he's a cutie. Who the fuck is putting dogs in dumpsters? It was dark, but I mean that was the cutest little dog. We just talked about that at lunch people that like hurt dogs. I Said some weird dark shit. Tattoo dogs and shit. I said I think people that hurt dogs like if you hurt Bobby asked me if somebody hurt killed my dog

It's like would you would you kill them? I said no, I would keep them hostage and torture them for a long time somebody killed my mom. Yeah Yeah, I would do it for anybody doesn't how they how they kill my dog was an accident. You know no I'm still gonna fucking kill you yeah, yeah, you kill my dog. I'm gonna kill you dude. Isn't that John wicks whole story? I think they killed his dog on purpose. Yeah, they did Do you never know what people's motives are dude? We also found this out guess how many sharks are killed every year for human consumption. This is crazy You won't even believe that how many sharks every year are killed so we can eat them

Who eats sharks just like shark fin soup is really popular well of Asia to Asia eats the most wild shit What was the dog number the amount of dogs consumed 10? 30 million what the I thought you said 30,000 30 million 30 million dogs are eating dude China has a billion people how many dogs are pets out there? Oh my god, Google that. You know that Japan just became one of the first countries ever to have more cats than dogs as pets? I saw that somewhere. I thought that was bullshit, but I was like, I guess that's... I believe it. They have a fucking lot. Have you been to Japan?

Yeah, it's the best. They fucking love cats. Dude, I love Japan. More than half the people in Asia own dogs, 59%, and that's like a billion people. A billion people. So that's like 500 million people. A billion people. So that's like 500 million. Also you're talking about, you're talking about one portion of Asia.

India is Asia and India is another billion people. China is a billion, India is a billion. Wow. You're talking about, yeah. India's been getting kind of a bad rap lately. The internet has done this. Yeah. Yeah, because of the street food videos.

There's that, yeah. But I gotta tell you, those street food videos, they fucking yuck me out of my mind, dude. They got cutting open bags with their toenails. The poop fight? Yeah, dude, the poop fight's bananas. We knew we needed to start that here in the States. We do need a poop fight. Yeah, we need to start doing shit to make our,

like our reputation was the worst for a while. We need to get back on that. We gotta get back to where we belong. Yeah, India gets a real bad rap. Do you have your bit? Mm-mm. I would like to go, but I would like to go, but probably specific parts.

You can miss me with India. I'm not gonna, you're never gonna see me there, dude. No, like to go, but I would like to go, but probably specific parts. You can miss me with India I'm not gonna you're never gonna see me there dude. No, I'm good, dude. I don't want dysentery. Every time you hear a story though It's like somebody goes there everyone I know has gone there gets like wildly sick for a while They're like that's a part of it, dude. You're back the bacteria. You just don't you're not used to it I feel like there's there's so many Indians that have you know made their lives in the US that are fucking cool as hell. They're killing it. And it's like, I think they're genetically just,

they have a, you know, and culturally, they have this awesome, you know, background or something. They're cool ass people. Yeah. But the country's kind of rough. Country's tough. But the Indians you meet here are fucking awesome. Well I mean talk about a survivor mentality right people that move here the Indian people that have

immigrated here I mean they'd fucking worked their ass off so they're achieving is through the roof because there there is no like show up be lazy that's that's like a fake you know what I mean like there's so anybody that immigrated this fucking country is most likely not going to be fucking lazy because they balled out to even get here in the first place. Indians especially, because they pride themselves on education and my neighbors, when we moved to the suburbs, my neighbors Indian,

great fucking people, and they're all gangsters, like all super successful, smart, you know what I mean? Just like hardworking, cool, good people. They have a lot of good core values and I think they instill that here the problem I think if you're gonna go backwards with why India has some trouble is because it's an extremely overpopulated place So it's riddled with poverty. Yeah, so you have too many people they can't no one can help. It's too hard There's not enough jobs not enough work not a government can't help that at all

So it's then you're in the fucking street. It's one one of those things I think where the the nice cities are just completely separate you know totally original 100% we do that here which is not as polarizing yeah but if you've been like Dominican Republic is what I think of they've been there yeah you know we're like you're in the city and everything's super bougie and then you go one block over and it's like shit yeah it's bad yeah did that but I heard to find that new it's not that bad no ours is never block over and it's like, shit. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah. It's hard to find that in the U.S. It's not that bad. It's not that bad, no.

Ours is never that bad. It's less polarizing. But it is, it does happen in a way here. I'll tell you where that was wild, was we were in Sicily. And- Really? Yeah, Sicily was amazing.

And then when you drove kinda out of the town square, you were like, there's a little sketch. Really? It got bad fast. Like Italians and French people are kind of just, they're conniving. They're grimy gangsters, dude. They're grimy gangsters.

Like it'll be something little. I feel like theft and all that shit over there is pretty popular. Yeah, dude, yeah. They're not gonna kill you, but they're gonna. No, no, they don't need to kill you, dude. They're gonna fucking touch you and take your shit. Yeah, they'll steal your shit. They gonna kill you, but they're gonna. No, no, they don't need to kill you, dude. They're gonna fuckin' touch ya and take your shit. Yeah, they'll steal your shit, yeah.

They'll fondle you and take your shit. You get assaulted by an Italian guy and then robbed at the same time. And they, have you seen them spit game? Like when a dude from Spain or Italy or something is trying to spit game in the U.S., like they have creepy game. Yeah, dude, they're creepy, dude, yeah.

They're always like overly touchy. Because it's culturally, that's like chill over there. It's very, that could be it. They're always like overly, you know, touchy. Because it's culturally, that's like how, that's like chill over there. It's very, it's too much. Yeah, they say wild shit. They'll say shit in front of your face to like your wife or girlfriend, and you're like, what, dude? What is that about? Yeah, like shit. Good people, weird people. Wait, hold on. Hold on. How many sharks are killed every year for human consumption is gonna fucking blow your mind?

Yeah, because I mean you said 30 million fucking dogs. I was yeah 1 million sharks 100 million sharks a hundred a hundred million. I know they have that many at all ever. It's crazy Isn't that a true? Let's sit with that that is crazy every year. I Thought the video that Bobby was watching was fake. Me too. I was convinced it was all fake. 100 million. Well, because it was like,

before we looked it up, they're all, it was like 40 million pigeons or something. I was like, what? So that's like, I mean, what, 300 something million people. 300, like 65, 360,000 million, yeah. One in three people gets a shark here. Or, well, if it was a tank. On a scale of that, yeah.

It's a lot of fucking sharks. That shit's dark. a scale of that, yeah. That shit's dark. When you read that then you get creeped out. You're like, whoa dude. How many chicken? What it was like four billion? It was four billion chicken? Yeah, we were getting up in the billions for chickens and other birds. Oh that shit's sad, man. Yeah. It is wild. We can't change it. So I'm not gonna so you know, I gotta keep on nice for a test for chicken I can't change what people are doing to him. So No, just eat them just move on. We're fine. No, yeah, can't go to it better than having to go to waste You know, that's exactly right. Mm-hmm. Oh, we made too many of them. Now. We got to eat them all

It's like at this point you can what are you gonna do? They're overpopulated. What would you do? If everybody went vegetarian, think how crazy that would be. What are you gonna do with all these animals? They're gonna overpopulate. Well they'd probably stop making them. Even still though they're already in a huge population because they've made too many to stop. Do you know what I'm saying? Like anything else. I start like a little, you know like chicken run? I start like a little military, you know? Yeah. I get some mercenary chickens and fucking do something. Act up. Just put them on a boat and ship them out to India, dude.

They'll accept cows. They won't fuck with a cow. Cows are their dog. The cow is their dog. Yeah, the way that we treat dogs, they treat cows. Cows are sacred. For Hindus. For Hindus, right?

Specifically. Yeah, the cow is sacred. You can't fuck with a cow. Because they're brilliant. They say, right? Specifically. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the cows, they don't, the cows sacred, can't fuck with a cow. Because they're brilliant. They say they're really, they're really smart. And we shouldn't fuck with them. I think Indians have some of the best food. They get bad, you know, the videos aren't good. Yeah, well, because you see the street food is not good.

Like they're actual... But like Indian food from a restaurant? Have you been to like an Indian party? Like a wedding? Like anything like that. The weddings are crazy. Yeah, yeah. They ride them on a horse and shit?

I remember going to like grad parties, because Rochester where I grew up was the Mayo Clinic. Shout out to Rochester baby! Shout out to Rochester. Huge hospital. And um, you know it's the smartest, best doctors work there. Yeah. So, a lot of Indians. And I was going to, you know, grad parties and stuff where the white people grad parties, you know, they have pulled pork, it starts at 4 p.m., ends at 8 p.m., maybe you'll sneak a beer. The Indian ones, they start at midnight, you go in there,

everyone takes their shoes off, and they have hard liquor, and it's like dads dancing with high schoolers, like turn the fuck up. Yeah, ballin'. Doing bungra dances, like spin like spinning around and shit. I was insane I was like you are so much coolness Indians know how to party like crazy if you've ever seen an Indian wedding. It's insane Hours and hours and it's so opulent food and alcohol and it's it's all pomp and circumstance

Like it's all the show. Everything's like a big show You want to see you should look this up later a beautiful beautiful video music video and song It's got a Peter cat recording company. Okay, they're based out of Mumbai I think they have a song called floated by floated by mark that down and the music video is Indian wedding and it is fucking amazing song beautiful video. It's like one of my favorites. Okay. Yeah, it'll it'll Throw it in there somewhere the link and they'll change some people's minds. All right, we'll do that Put in the description down below so we can watch the that. I just want to see the image of it Yeah, I'm already fucking with it. Yeah, can you love I'm on there? No, they're gonna fuck with us

We'll get copy as usual. Oh, yeah, you two did sharks Google fucking stinks They've made it everything so stinks. They've made it everything so... whatever I get it. It's like everything else now. It's interesting and like I was on a live stream the other day. This guy Ludwig. Gamer, dude. Really cool guy. A lot of people were watching and we were playing guitar here or a rock band and I watched the stream back and it's like you can get like 20 seconds of a song and then there's just silence and it's like it kills the purpose of the whole thing Yeah, we get we usually get clipped a lot. We fucked around we goofed up We would put in music of people that we like if I was you

unless I There's a way to do it now. We did it once There's a rapper named Caitlin. I don't know if you know her playing Jane. Do you know that girl? Wait, is she like? the swaggy Somebody was talking about her swaggy white chick. Yeah, why you white chick that yeah, she's good though. She I like her we had her on the show we summer her music, but she Somehow had a license would let us license it. It was weird YouTube like let it happen my older all my like personal catalog So I'm free off the label now.

I was trying to get off for five fucking years. And I'm now a free agent. And everything I drop before signing also I own. So if you wanna put my music in here, I'm pretty sure that we could get any of those. And my OG shit is lit. What's the label? I was on Republic.

Right. And then Imperial and me. And you'll never do a label again? We'll see. I've had meetings but you know I'm not gonna give away my whole thing. That's what they do, they take you. They take you for a ride. I had so much fun at first when I could you know I was on I used TuneCore which was one of the distribution things. There's also I don't know what the other ones are but Stem is the other good one. And you could just drop music whenever you wanted.

I dropped music on Christmas Day. I dropped music, you know, breaking all the rules, and now apparently are fucked up, but I'm one of the few artists that gets more streams on Christmas Day than anybody else. Why is that? Every artist goes down on Christmas Day because they're all listening to Mariah Carey

and Bing Crosby And me and the gravy goes up and me and the gravy goes up I got like a notification about that like yeah, that's one of like 10. Yeah with Mariah Carey. Yeah That's pretty cool. I put out some Christmas jams and I've dropped projects right around that. Yeah Well, don't be scared to do you know where you're not supposed to do your own shit Don't be scared to do, you know, what you're not supposed to. Do your own shit. Don't be scared to do your own shit. I appreciate you dude, it's wonderful to meet you. I want to say thank you to the fans listening. Enjoy the catalog.

Listen to this, watch this music video that we've got. And excited to see what you put out. That'll be cool, taking some time off and doing your thing We end the show the same way you look into that camera right there You say one word or one phrase to end the episode some people do a word some people do a word a phrase of wisdom Something you want to leave the crowd with into the camera whenever you're ready It's kind of sick it's cute this is where I'm running right now. All right, let me tell this. Mm-hmm It's kind of sick. It's cute. This is where I'm at branding right now. Let me kill this. Mm-hmm. Before we go, do you have any friends in Mexico City?

In Mexico City? Yeah. No, but I'm about to go there in a couple months. I'm going there really soon. Really? I actually met a... I think we can keep going yet. I met a girl at a party who's a big Mexican record-selling singer. And we met a song together, and I'm going out there in like two weeks.

Oh, two weeks. I'm out there way after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I go in a a couple in like a month or two or something. But I'm like entering that world now which I love. I love the the Caritas music. Have you been to Mexico City before? I've only been to Tulum. Okay. That's the only place in Mexico you've been? Yeah. Holy shit. I know. You never go to Cabo or any of that shit? No. No, I don't know. I haven't. I gotta go to Cabo at least once man. That's fun. It's an easy flight. You're in LA. So I'm going to Mexico City for like five days. Oh, you're gonna have fun.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're gonna have so much fun. I'm gonna work on my Duolingo and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ripping on the Duolingo. Okay, so one word or one phrase. Something powerful, poignant, something that means something to you

or somebody would just make a fart noise. I mean, whatever. It's been the, it's ran the gambit Hmm You're good in the hat by the way. Thank you, bro. Well. Thank you for the hat. I really appreciate this is great I just say something to everybody Stop giving a fuck Stop being pissed off at things shit happens. It's a sunk cost

What was the other term? You know, it's uncost if you bought something it doesn't work shit. You can't it's gone some cost some someone pisses you off Some cost you should name your album some cost some cost. Sun cost, baby. In here, we pour whiskey. Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. Oh, that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.

You owe me five dollars for the whiskey, and seventy-five dollars for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.