Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Zach Zucker (Jack Tucker) Is Pure Chaos | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger a Wave series presented by Fanduel Predicts. Andrew Santino sits down with comedian and performer Zach Zucker, also known as his chaotic alter ego Jack Tucker, for one of the strangest and funniest episodes in recent memory. They talk about clowning, live performance, bombing on purpose, uncomfortable comedy, and why the best bits often feel like they’re moments away from complete disaster. Zach breaks down the creation of Jack Tucker, performing for unpredictable crowds around the world, and how embracing failure became part of the act itself. Santino tries to keep the train on the tracks while Zach repeatedly lights the tracks on fire. If you like weird comedy, uncomfortable brilliance, and comedians pushing things into dangerous territory, this one’s for you. Follow Zach Zucker / Jack Tucker: https://www.instagram.com/zuckagram Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #ZachZucker #JackTucker ============================================ This episode is sponsored by:  FANDUEL Sign up now for your twenty-five dollar bonus on FanDuel Predicts. HEAD TO https://fanduel.com/whiskey TO GET STARTED! SQUARESPACE USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://squarespace.com/whiskey SHADYRAYS PROMO CODE: GINGER  GET 50% OFF 2+ PAIRS OF POLARIZED SHADES https://shadyrays.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Jr. My guest today is one of my favorite people. I don't know they say that from. I guess what I mean once again today. It's Zach Zucker. Thank you everyone in the congregation. God bless you. And Gazuntite.

Did you go to church as a kid? I'm Jewish. Yes! Yes! Temple? A temple boy? I did. I was actually. kicked out of three temples.

Yay! That's so crazy to get kicked out of temple. It was rough. Because Jews are pretty liberal when it comes to letting you get away with being a goofball. Oh yeah. Well, look, they love to be a goofball

until it's something that you're not allowed to goof around about. What did you goof about? You know, I was a... I was 5, 8, and 12 when I got kicked out. And as a kid who obviously has like severe attention...

Deficit disorder. Could even finish it. I heard that one before. So that was the rabbi. I know, but we, like, I obviously didn't want to be in Hebrew school. I didn't want to be in any school. I wanted to be running around in the dirt and skateboarding and playing sports and playing with my friends. So, and then I also, like every Jewish kid from the Burbs, I want to be a rapper, a dancer, and a basketball player.

Sure. So I was listening. In that order. Of course, please. I said it in that order for that reason. Yeah. And I still believe, like, I don't know if you have this with anything, but I still believe I could be a, I could, like, if I needed to get into the NBA, I could. How old do you?

16. Nice. No, it goes away. I'm in my 40s, it's over. Well, look, I'm 33 this month. Oh, dude, when you hit 40, something, your brain goes, I guess that's it. I mean, it was never going to happen. But it could have.

But it could have. Like, to me, I'm like, you're telling me that for the next two years, I trained every day on LeBron's budget. I can't play like three minutes of meaningful basketball in the NBA. There's no way. There is no way. But I do like the thought. Yeah, yeah. Until you hit 40, then it's over.

So you wanted to be a rapper, a dancer, and a basketball player. Oh, yeah. And I still do. But comedy has taken over. Unfortunately. I feel like I do notice that a lot, though. A lot of rappers are, you know, or...

Rappers, dancers, basketball players want to be us. Exactly. Yeah, they do want to be us. And I'm like, I can't tell you enough how bad you don't want this life. No, it's way easier to do what you guys are doing. Yeah. For your lifestyle. And also for your mental health.

That's really what it is. Oh, your thing you do for a job every day is you, like, work out and you get good endorphins and eat healthy and take care of yourself. And mine is like, how late can I stay up absolutely trashing myself all the time? What would be a funny way to hurt myself today? Oh, and I don't have the rest and re-recovery and I don't stretch and my body hurts all the time.

So like- So not a good exchange? No, not so much. So wait, how did you get kicked out? Five, eight and 12? Five, it was because I went up to the Bima where the Taurus were in that little secret spot and I was, at the time I had the headphones that like went around like this.

Sick. Yeah, it was awesome. I was killing it. And I had them like this, and I eventually had them when there were kind of the solos. And I was, this, like, you know, Get Richard Dight Trian was out. And, like, also the G-Unit album, Beg for Mercy was out.

And I just was, like, having fun in there because they would always tell me I couldn't listen to the music. It wasn't a good, like, good Hebrew music. And then, so I, like, put it through my speakers, through the Bima in the middle of a synagogue. And it was like, I don't know what you heard about me. And if you can't get it. And I was, like, you know, obviously vibe and dancing, shooting hoops, you know, all at the same time. And they didn't like that. And that was, like, a serious.

Like, our teacher's name was kitty. And I was always, like, meow at her. and be like, sorry, I don't speak cat and getting owned by a five-year-old. Huge. Yeah, it was awesome. That really hurt her ego. It really did.

I kind of was shitty. Then the next one, too, she was somebody who moved. I don't know how to say this. I didn't... She came from Israel. I'm just trying to, I was trying to out to evoke Israel or anything of it at all. But I am actually starting on a game show over there

called Netanyahu's line is it anyway. I'm very excited. I'm very excited to play. I'm very excited to play. And I, she was like, she would always get mad at me because I was late or I'd come in my baseball uniform. And she said something to me once like, oh my God, dude, I'm going to shoot myself on the foot here.

She said something like, if you ever want to like be a man, like you need to learn how to like take, you know, be on time. And I was like, well, if you ever want to make it in America, you need to shave your mustache. Oh my God. I was like eight years old, dude. I didn't know. I was watching Salton Park a lot. That killed.

She left. She left and she like never came back. Yeah. She went back to Israel? I think so. Do you wanna also hear the most fucked up part about this whole thing? That's not the fucked up part.

No, okay. So this was in, and it's ultimately like a real horrific series of coincidences that unfortunately perpetuates like anti-Semitic tropes, which again, I'm very sensitive to, but I do control the wessell. And thank you for this by the way. It's been really nice. Beautiful lighting in here.

You got a nice mist in here. Yes. There was, so, so this clobrozo was like a smaller class in my friends, our family friends basement. My brother's visually impaired. The son of this family was visually impaired. And the mom was like a wonderful warrior

for like the foundation for fighting, for retinal research and like foundation fighting blindness. And we were in the basement of this. So it's like a bunch of Jews in the basement. Uh-oh. With this woman from Israel. Uh-oh. And at the time, Barack Obama was running for,

I think he was running for Congress the first time. And he had met up with them to like talk about, you know, how he could help out or how he could help, you know, maybe, I don't know, I don't know the right words if it's like further the initiative or get involved with the charity. But, you know, zooming out, Obama, with a bunch of Jews in the basement there, it feels very stereotypical to what is being taught. But again, it was very certain. It's confirming all my beliefs. Yeah, truthfully. And it's awful.

It's like a, I think I'm such a bad representation for the Jewish community. And I am so sorry and I don't know how to help it. No, you're a great representation. Because you're funny, handsome, cool, sweet, smart. talented and also a little bit of a bad bow yeah bad boy and also he got a killer jump shot the 15 footer is undenial oh god

a little shimmy fade away a little shake shake a little a little a little a little Zach tap and then shoot it over the head Obama's in the basement with you guys Obama's in well he was upstairs and like I met him so briefly no he didn't make it down he knew the optics were gonna be bad I'm not gonna go down there I'm not gonna stay up here

can you still do Obama impressions are people doing these days? No I don't think Obama does an impression of himself anymore either now I ran into him and he was like well so a player and I was like Obama Really? It was all an act. What was this? When did I meet Obama?

A month ago, right? A couple months ago. I met a couple months ago. Were you at the Brintz basement party? Maybe. I knew I noticed you. You guys, you can't get rid of me. And then who kicked you out at 12?

A woman named Michla. Oh, I know Michla. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I went, so then the only room that was left was the Orthodox temple in our town, because they were the only ones who could take me, like, we could change him. And that's when I was big in my jackass phase. My dream, Bar Mitzvithin, was. is it to have it be Zachass?

And my parents obviously didn't want it. And I was like, I get it. My name spelled Z-A-C-H. That's Z-A-C-K. No one's gonna get mad. And they're like, that's not why we don't want you to do this. And I, so they took me there. And this was big jackass.

This was like Ryan Dunn was doing a show called Homewrecker. I remember. He was teaching you pranks, like the deodorant prank with cream cheese and all these other things. And like, I think I did some like, I was like putting stuff in her coffee and like. To your mom. No, no. To Mechla. To Mechla.

It was essentially like all of our mothers, you know. but yeah I I definitely a Jewish mother is everyone's mom and that is a non-Jews and that is one of the most beautiful qualities I yeah a Jewish mother any of my Jewish friends any of their mothers would become your mother Nick's mom was on set it just becomes your mom but I've also known her for 20 years but it become mom and a Jewish father doesn't want to talk to any of your friends at all unless unless you start to you like you have to like really subtly edge in over the years with sports and business even still they're like kind of disinterested

because you're a child yeah yeah whatever but then every now and that And they'll kind of, you won't be there, and they'll be like, no, that's Santino, he's a good kid. Yeah, yeah, that's all you're gonna get. That's like the top of what you're gonna get. But that's all you get is their sons anyways. That's true. So you're not getting anything they're not getting.

It never ends with you guys, doesn't it? No, and it never will. It's so funny, I've been being told by like all my friends, like you gotta be like more, just, just think about what you say when you're on any podcast. I don't know, because I'll start off and start doing this guy right here right off the top. It sits for fun. We're just having a bit. I know, I know.

I think the world is in a really dark. odd place. I think the more playful we become, the better off we're going to be. I fully agree. If we, look, being conscious of your language or your intent is important, but we're going to make mistakes. I tried very hard. I learned a really good lesson about how, and I spoke to my wife after that we had shot and we had worked with someone who on set was a they, them, right? That's how they preferred to be called. And I accidentally, twice, I think, I said the wrong, I said she and then I corrected myself then I apologize in the kitchen you know I I

went up to them and I said hey sorry about that I I don't know if that really bother you but I did it kind of subconscious that you know to yeah and was so like are you kidding no that's not it's not that big of a deal but cool that you thanks for being cool about it yeah and then that night I thought it's really I I it is weird that people care because intent matters to me it's all intent in context right like that that I feel like has been completely lost my big whole my big whole thing is comedians are held to politician standards and politicians are not

so it's like why are you my job is to be a goof to be goof and say the bad things and I went to a clown school where our whole thing is like how many times can you cross the line and step over and over and over again from a place of play and like wonder and discovery I'm not like I like to make fun of everything

but like I don't I'm not trying to like hurt anybody right I think that's thing that's what I mean by that it was like the intent like I didn't mean to do that and then the acknowledgement you know was great because it made me like oh yeah you understand that I didn't do that out of deliberins no and then also then the world's a little bit easier yeah people people want what they want you're gonna try your best and unless something is intended to be fuck you then it's like

oh mistakes happen it is what it is yeah by the way clown school I know really wish I went it's it was the best thing I didn't get in really it's crazy because it's an open application to anyone who's going to pay 600 euros for the course where did you go it was would you go in in France in a small village called et-tamp la village de Tomp and etamp translates to stamp Hence, Stamped Town, the name of the show. That's where it came from. Yeah.

Are you fluent in French? I'm fluent in Spanish. I speak enough French to get by. God, that's what. Did you do that before going there? Or you learned that while you were there? I learned there. I wish I had, I can't read.

I can't read so good. Me can't read no good. I can't read no good, actually. But I like the sounds. I like the sounds of how they look. But no, I didn't really know, but I was going out in Paris, because the school was like an hour outside. in our south.

Sure. And we would then go to Paris and I would meet all these like other epic Europeans who all spoke five languages. Wow. And so speaking Spanish with them helped me get like into the worlds

where I would then like hear it and then I started listening to like French immersion. Like there's a teacher named Michelle Tomas who like he would take people from zero and teach them to fluency and you would like listen along with them and you would learn or listening to music

or watching TV shows and like I could have been so much better and it's been 11 years since I went and I wish I was more. But you still did sound. That sounded really, really good. You were right there. And what is it, what's the, the syndrome where you, like, you see a color and you hear? Oh, yeah.

What is that called? I know what you're talking. I know. Maybe. That's what, that would be in the realm of what I mean. I'm right? Yeah. Synesthesia.

Let's go. You have that. I think so. Yeah. You're synesthetic. I think I have a lot of, I see a lot of stuff rhythmically, musically, and colorfully, and then I kind of just let it fly. Versus it's, versus its original form is not interesting to you.

It's not that you can't read it, you don't want to read it as it's presented. Yeah. And, yeah. I've always, like, I even as a kid, like, I fucked up my hip flexors for life because everyone was sitting crisscross applesauce and I was like, not me. I can't do it. And then just refused and, like, I write differently. I put a pencil in between my two fingers like this and just like...

You write like that? Like this, yeah. A claw. Just like a claw. For no reason. I was just like, I'm a contrarian. You didn't want to do what the other kids were doing. No.

And I always, but I also, it's such a fun contradiction because, like, I want to also be like the voice of the people and I want to be the guy they rally behind. But I'm also like, fuck this. You'll never catch me doing this. For such arbitrary things that actually have no impact whatsoever. What's the most embarrassing thing that no one knows that you do, that you don't want someone to see you doing? But you do it and you don't care.

It's not that big of a deal. Like crying, shitting and coming? That's my... Well, I don't know if that's embarrassing. No, no, no, no. Very relieving. Yeah, I'll give you one that's very embarrassing for me. Yeah, please give you one.

I'm a 42-year-old man. To this day, I still tie my shoes. Bunny ears. Bunny ears. I've never, I've never learned the other way. I refuse. And it would be helpful. Oh, my God.

a revela, you're the only other man I know. I, I, and it's... Loop swoop and pull does not interest me at all. No. I like bunnies. I like the bunnies. It makes me feel like a little sweetheart. I like it, I don't know why. I like to be a sweetheart. But it is funny when I have to tie my shoe in public and sees someone who I'm with

sees me bend down in bunny ears. If I see them see it, there's a moment where I have to get to the next subject verbally. Otherwise, they'll be like, did you just bunny ear, tie your shoes? Yeah, and really quick, you say something racial. You're like, uh, what do you think about them? Obama was in the basement of a bunch of Jews 20 years ago. This one, this one Jewish clown kid told me.

Dha! Anyways, he's got a sick crossover. He's a dancer now. Yeah. Wait a minute. Clown school, hold on. Clown school. While you think about what's embarrassing that you do, that you don't want anybody to see you do like that, it's not that big of a deal.

But it does affect my brain. Yeah, of course. Clown school, um, clown school is a thing where it's, it's very, um, there's a lot of reverence for it. It is incredible that people like actually go to do that. What is the percentage of people that you went to school with who? are like careering now or having I just had this conversation last night yeah so well first off shouts out to my great teacher philip goliere me he rests in peace he passed away a few months go damn real bummer dude philip philip goliye goliye philip goliye and he's a bit more

philip philip philip goliye and his wife michiko michiko mizko mizko mizsche goliye yeah exactly it's perfect it's perfect it's perfect My favorite thing French to do that, they drag out of, uh, uh, uh, uh, That's my, with the, p, bayeux. You could say so much with the face and the noise, there's a, you know, like, that shit kills me. I had a friend from school named Clementine there, and she would always go, Fain, I don't know, uh, bu, and like, I would just crack up all the time. Because it's a big pause for them, that's like a gap filler.

That's their, um, that's their like, but, uh, it's like all, and all the different registers mean like a different type. of thinking. It's so interesting. As you're around it, you just start to pick up on it. It's like, it's when people go like, mm, you know, it's like their versions of doing those. But it's so, but it's so,

um, character based. It's weird. Like, but they do it culturally, it's very norm. And it's just, you know,

they're usually like kind of like here, you know, and it's like a little, it's like a glass of wine or a little cigarette and it's like here. And they really nurse, they nurse the moment. Right.

And I think what they, what I love about them is like, one, I love how pretentious the French are. and I love how much they care about how much they don't care about anything. Like, that's their big thing. And they, they, like, protest, which I love,

and they, like, they protest so hard for no reason a lot of times, but it's like, by far thing, if we protest, we protest, you know? It's like, they really, like, they go for it. It's all matter of fact, and you're like, this is so silly, but, yeah, I'm fully with it, and I, like, I love that about them.

Their level of self-confidence is unmatched by any other European country. Nobody can be as most other European countries are very, like, they're just not, They also are missing a little bit Yeah They're missing one Each one has one big blind spot

Right So the French are so sure of themselves Oh unbelievably Like one of our closest friends is Is from Paris and Parisians are A level that No American could match

There's such cuntz No tough New York No Brooklyn born I know this is my black You can get absolutely Disassembled by that Or disarmed by them Immediately it's unbelievable

But with one Fahello You give one Kiss on the cheek like this Oh Here's one Okay, so like look, I'm a bisexual dude. I feel like I can be like a dude

and I can be one of the girls. And I'm like fun in this way. And with being European a bit as well, where like I've spent most of my like coming of age years where I've started when I learned to come for the first time in Europe. Allegedly. And I, and when I was out there like, you know,

the kiss, the double kiss is the thing. And so a lot of times I'll be here where I'll meet someone. and I'll kind of come in for this and then they're not doing it at all and I'm like, oh great, you think I've just kissed you. But now you think I'm a predator. Now you think I'm a predator. I'm just trying to European pleasantry you

and show you how sophisticated I am and instead I've now made you feel uncomfortable immediately because we do a handshake. We do. And then when I go back to Paris, like I never get it right. As soon as I leave Paris, I'm like in the flow of it and I come here and no one's doing it.

I go back to Paris and I try to give everyone a hug and then you just almost always kiss them or bump heads and it's like the worst introduction. Do you go left or right? I try to, I usually go left. I usually go. So everyone should go left first. I go left and then I go right. And then and I love how fun is like sometimes if you really love them,

you do give them a nice little kiss, but I love when you kind of just go, I'm giving you like this side of my chin and my cheek and it's like, yeah, but that's it. And that's the pleasantry and you get it from the you know where to go, but you just know how to feel it, but we don't do it here. We don't do it. We do have some, we have some family friends that do do it,

that do like the kiss on the cheek thing. Some of them kiss you right on the crest of the lip here, right on the corner. Yeah. And I don't know if that's... It's a sneaky little French game they like to play. Yeah, how close can I get? How close? Because look, they're all about lovers, which again, I think that is a great way to live life.

Yeah, they do. They're free. They're free and it's like, it's okay to take a lover. It's just, you know, you don't get you. You don't catch me. And voila. Voila. Voila.

Well, they're the original Polly community. Of course. France is like the original spread love. Oh, yeah. It's almost like America. tried in the 70s, like free love, and then America was like, I don't think that's not really for us. We're going to get

back to the white picket fence and those mowed lawns. Yeah, fast. Right, right, quick, put up a tire. Put up a tire in a swing right now. That's every straight American male in that era that like kissed another guy on accident was like, isn't that shit so funny to me? I gotta buy an oldsmobile right now.

It like, recorrected very fast. The ladies came around and they're like, cocaine, Wall Street. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It just became like such. The 70s were like the post-60s era, like figuring it out. Yeah, yeah. Doing it, be free. And then fight for what you believe in.

The 80s are like, get the gays out of here. Son, I'm proud of you. And then never hear from your dad again for like 18 years. Dude, that's me. I'm born in 83. Like my entire generation is just like, don't do that. Do this. Be quiet.

Sit out. Everything was so, we were so like, we were so bullied by rules that we felt we felt scared of the other side. And then the next generation, 90s kids, felt like my sister, way more free, way more like, shut up, who fucking cares? Yeah. Like, my sister never got what I got hit all the time. And I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean to hate you.

Why did you do that? Beautiful little face. Yeah. We just got, I just got, I was a bad kid anyway. I was going to ask, were you, were you, were you, did you know it? Did you do on purpose? Was it kind of just like your reflex? You were like, hey, I'm, like, I was in the principal's office my whole life.

All the time. I was always apologizing. Well, I got kicked out of mood. Bible in Chicago. Shout out of Moody Bible. They kicked me out. Shut up in Moody Bible. Did you grow up in Chicago? Moody Bible. Yeah, for my childhood. Okay. I grew up in Highland Park. Do you really?

In the suburbs. Yeah, yeah. I got married. That's where I went to school. And then my mom got remarried. We moved to the suburbs. Oh, shit. Oh my god. Family. Damn. Yeah, but see, the Jews are all up north. We are. Yeah. And that's where you belong. And we're gonna stay up there. Yeah. And you better not be gay up there. It's one thing to be Jewish. It's another to be gay. My son is a gay Jew. What do I do?

do I do? It turns into a A musical. A musical? It's Mel Brooks's his whole life. I got kicked out. I got kicked out

a moody Bible for being, just a bad kid, but I knew I was a bad kid. Also, you know, rebellion was going to be a part of my thing. My mom got separated from my dad when I was one.

He had some troubles. And so I was like, you know, kind of this wild little loose kid, single mother. And then I just knew that like, I didn't like taking things serious. So fucking off was my answer

to my, probably my, my my lack of comfort yeah so I was like well I'll just fuck off break it take it apart goof on it make fun of it make fun of it because it was easier than the other side it's so much easier that way I also it's funny I remember being in fifth grade like I always fucked around I remember being the kids watching South Park the movie watching shut your fucking face uncle fucker but I'm like that was me and I love that and then I remember in fifth grade I saw I saw the the movie musical version of 1776

And I was like, one day I'm gonna lead a revolution. Now, still figuring out what that is. It's coming. Maybe it's 50-year-old guys joining the NBA. That could be great. 50-year-old white Jews in the NBA? I've also never gone to college. So in theory, I could do what these punks are doing right now

that are going to college at 28. Going back? Yeah, I could go back. I've never done it. Clown School didn't have a clown college, didn't have a team? Didn't have a squad? No, you know, it's funny. I think besides me, maybe three other people

had touched a basketball before. Sunk on sunk? What is it? A sunk on sunk. 5155? 5.5? 5. How do you say shirts and skins?

How do you say shirts and skins? I don't know how you would say skins. What do you say skins in French? He'll look it up. Chemi? Shemi or not shami? Shemi or not shemmy? P-E-E-A-U-X?

P-E-A-U-X. P-E-A-U-S. Like peh? Pea. P-E. It's so funny because again, I don't know how to read French. There is a French person at home right now very, very upset at this. What is this?

This is a disgrace to go. You do this to any other language and they would be like, oh, that's fun, they're goofing, they're trying. The French are genuinely mad. I get corrected constantly. They're mad about it. And I love it and I get, like, it hurts my heart every time, but there's sort of this like masochistic thing

where it's like, but they cared enough to correct me. Yeah, they do. They give a shit enough. It's like beautiful language, if you butcher it, I will kill you. But have a coffee. And then also they give you the worst, there's no good coffee in Paris. It's just like, they have so many amazing things there

and everyone just is like, coffee is shit. But what, they don't drink coffee is it just not a cultural thing? They don't care. Not so much. They'll have a little coffee and a cigarette at the boulogerie

or like outside when you're like sitting in a little cafe just like looking like there was an old man outside my friend. Shout out good Maddie. I shout out on every podcast. You must. You must.

GM, I love you. And there was from her place, you could always see there was this like old guy who was like the color of this and orange but he was like a white guy that was just frying in the sun for so long. And he like every day would walk out in the most like

jigolo-esque shirt. from the other eras, popped collars in the morning. Veed all the way down. Veed all the way down, chest out. Beautiful. And he was always like, yeah, he was kind of a way. Hello, bonsoos. You know, like, this type of guy.

And he would always be like, he would have always have a smoke. He would always have a little cigarette. And he'd always be reading a book. And then he'd just kind of be chilling, kind of peacocking, chest out, seeing if any young, beautiful women were going to meet with him that day. Eventually, somebody would. Surely. I did.

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Yeah. Chicago has some characters. Miami has characters, LA has characters, but they're not the ones that you want to play. No, it's a bummer. They're sad. They're sad characters out here. And this goes into the other larger thing

was like at clown school. So it's like, it's like, my two years was like 75 of the weirdest people from like 45 different countries. Wow. All of us have this, like, desire in our heart to perform and, like, literally cannot figure it out in any way, shape, or form. Well, you figured it don't have to go to school. Exactly.

We're like, well, I got nowhere else to go. I might as well go to this clown school in France. That's, like, truly a labyrinth to get into. Like, the website used to be this, like, horrible, like, 2D flash website, all in English, second language from him in French and his wife in Japanese. It makes no sense. He already speaks in riddles. And if you could figure out how to send her the 100 euro deposit for one course, you were good.

You were in. Now you just got to figure out how to get there and... And where do you live while you're there, too? You could live in Paris or you could live in the city. I lived all over... I lived with like, you know... First, I lived with an Italian guy, a girl from Basque country, a girl from Majorca,

and a girl from Belgium. I saw this episode of Girls. It was really good. It was amazing. And then wait until the next episode of Friends. It was me, the Italian, the girl from the Taiwanese girl and the Italian guy. Holy shit. Yeah. And so we just, you know, I lived with all these different people from all these different cultures.

Not from clown school, though. There's just humans you met while you were. Oh, sorry. These were all students. Oh, they were all students. But I did live, like, the first time I was with a host family, Frank and Marilyn, and they did not speak any English whatsoever. And over the years, they learned, but they had, like, nine cats. I'm severely allergic to cats, so I could, like, never breathe in their house.

It was a nightmare. And then one year I did, like, a music video where I played the love interest of, like, a G, like a PG music video called Hello Beautiful. And when we showed it to them, they cried of laughter so hard that they opened up their secret little downstairs cinema that, they never let us go into to play it eight times in a row to just keep laughing at me really and I was like when that moment happened I was like we're good like you love me you see me now well because comedy is universal exactly you know I mean especially especially physical comedy right verbal it's really hard to sell a joke overseas of it if it has so many American references to oh yeah but physical comedy there's something about if you can it's

pure movement is it like we all know that's why like pratfall like a fall is always funny falls are always funny oh yeah we watch a long came polly last night and when when When Philips Semore Hoppin walks in and goes, Ruben, and he slips on the dance floor and falls, the fall is so good and hard. And you can tell it really fucking hurt. Oh, yeah. The best man is in the half. The best man's in the half. The way he falls and I go, it doesn't matter what country, what age, what year I see that, where you're from.

It's funny to watch somebody fall. Getting kicked in the nuts, slipping. It's always funny. That's like 101 in clown school. They're like falling is funny. It is. Well, that's the whole thing is like, you know, when you have 75, like our whole thing, things were like one get into your body because whether or not the audience knows

about it or people are aware of it we're picking up all the subconscious like you know stimuli that you would have from any physical choice and for me that is like we we I try to do that intentionally but like to be able to play this way I feel like I'm much better with my body than my words ladies fellas everyone in between oh have my eyes just came but in this school he also then taught us this idea of like game and it's like so many people say the word game and all these different things, but it's like, what is the, what are we playing? Who is this? What, what's going on here? And if you could find the game in the scene, it does not matter what language you're speaking.

Everything just becomes rhythmic. And it's like text no longer is the sole way to make people laugh. It's just like another ingredient that you can use to perform with. And so you have all these people that, like, you know, I remember the best scene I've ever seen in my life was this Malaysian name Bella and this Japanese guy named Tatsya. They did a Greek tragedy scene that I don't speak Malay and I don't speak Japanese, but like, I was moved to pieces and was like, crime. watching this gorgeous scene happen because you see this like physicality and the performance

and you're like you know they could have been making fun of us the whole time and nobody would have known which would have been incredible they're shitting on all you guys the whole time incredible that's my dream wait who did anybody

did anybody like is anybody like so yes so there's we were saying last night across our like there's like a three year span where like you know I'm not trying to be like an old head about it but like between the 2014 to like

2016 17 17 Golier correct classes. In my class, I mean, I love everybody and if anyone here hears this, I love you all. But I think it's like really, myself and my buddy Tom Walker, who's an amazing Australian physical comedian, he's

a mime, a clown, a writer, he hosts Australian great bakeoff and has done some great stuff down there. He's amazing. He's got a special on Amazon. Fantastic guy. And then the year below me is like my two best friends and comedy partners, Vigo Venn, who won

Britain's Got Talent, and Johnny Wool who's my director of everything I do. And then we have like a bunch, our friend Sammy Albuwarda is a great artist. Our friend Elf Lyons. Our friends, Maddie Ba is in a group called siblings. Like, oh God, there's probably other people that I'm forgetting, but these are all people

who are like established fringe. And moving through the scene really well. Yeah, Gary Starr, my friend Damien, like, you know, all these people are like selling out, winning awards, traveling around the world, making their own shows. And like, we had a really tight-knit group, you know. It was really cool and I'm like really proud to be.

That's so cool. I love them, man. And I think that happened to be. and waves. I think that sounds strange to say, but a lot of time graduating classes, for some reason certain classes are blessed. Like something happened that all these classes came together. And not to say that any other is

less valid, but they are less valid. Look, and I'm happy to ride that. I'm going to stand behind that, but not have to say it. That's right. I just think you do see classes sometimes that are quite impressive that make like a big splash. Did you study and did you go to college? What did you do? I would to college

but it wasn't a real thing. I went to, yeah. Where'd you got? I went to Arizona. I went to Arizona State. I wanted to to Arizona State. I wanted to get to the West Coast. I wanted so bad to get out here and start stand-up and try comedy. And I went there for journalism and English and creative writing classes. All they really wanted to do was find a funnall way to make

stuff. Yeah. Had you done any theater or any performance whatsoever at all leading up to it? As a kid, no, I didn't really do any... As a kid, I just was a punk who played basketball and loved to fuck off. Did you skate? Also thought I was a rapper. And skate. Love skating. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I thought it was that guy.

Yeah, of course. I used to draw tattoos on myself all the time. I would draw like the only the strong will survive on a cross with like a basketball and I was like, well Tyson Chandler has this. I have it permanently right now in this arm. I'm still on my right. Well, I would draw like all of Tupac's tattoos and I had the wear-the-touches. I love the Tupacetka.

And I would go thug life and I had the wherewithal to just write the number 50 and put the gun. I didn't like slap the N-word on my chest, which is kind of awesome. Yeah. You know, and look, I got the pass from all the other Jews in the school. Yeah. You could say it's okay, no one's here. We're by ourselves. Well, that was actually our, the makeup of where I grew up,

it was like basically, you know, it was like Jewish and Mexican communities. And so, like, that was, for me, that's why I spoke Spanish. I mean, I was in a dual language program as a kid. Oh, you were? Yeah, dude. They tried to insert me in that, but you're not going to like this. My mom taught, I talked, in my last special, I had a joke about it, but I went to a school called LaSalle Language Academy downtown.

Yeah, I know, and she made me take German. Don't, I know. Why wouldn't I like that? Well, because... What do you mean? Oh, you are wearing Adidas. Thank you for just saying it like that. And those are Kanye's shoes, by the way.

Yeah! It's tough. Well, that's... Okay, look, let's talk about this for a sec. Because, obviously, as a Chicago kid, I love Kanye. I do too. And I also worked on a charity with him as a kid,

and I met him, and I met Virgil, and I met Lupe Fiasco and Common. And it's like, I have put so much of what I love. And not even that. If we are going to separate artist and art for a set, second the way he produces and I believe pulls the best out of other people and then allow you both to shine and kind of like spin around each other it's like that is the composition of it in the production of the engineering is my basis for everything that I try to create he's a magic man unfortunately he just I think well I think he's just uh I think he has some mental health issues it's a bummer and it's like really yeah I mean not no one's really said that yeah I mean for the first 25 years of his career was kind of I didn't love what he said but the last two years I've really been loving what he's been saying it's really strong If anything, he commits. Yeah.

Well, that's the... Actually, ironically, he backs out all the time. He's like, I didn't mean to say all that. You're like, well, then why did you say that? Why did you say all that? Triples down. Here it is on a shirt, and you're like, oh, dude. Well, that's the hard part.

It is hard for him, especially because I do, I have loved him so much, but you're like, so disappointed. It's really upsetting all the time. You're like, just cut that out, will you? I think, you know, I never fully, like, I boycotted in that, like, it took me... I didn't listen to him for a few years

or big months at a time, not because I was like, I will never listen to you. Because, you know, I subscribe to the, if you're a fan of Kanye West, you're a fan of yourself. And that was something that he would say, and it meant a lot to me.

And I believe in my heart. He's not this terrible person. I just believe he's super sick. But then I hear from a lot of my Jewish friends, which, again, it sucks to be Jewish right now kind of all the time. It's always been bad. It's not great.

And by the way, and it's going to stay that way. It's only going to get away. Until we find a way to get me into the NBA. I'm over here. I'm sifted in the corner. But this also, this fun, to have fun to play the idea of something stupid, this is what I loved most about clown school is that everything was on limits. And if you can do impressions of each other, you can make fun of each other, we can mock each other. And it was never like to be racist or to be nasty.

It's like, my comedy partner Vigo would always say, to laugh of, I want them to laugh of me. And I don't want to laugh on you or at you, but I want you to laugh of me, laugh of what I got. And I love when people make fun of me. Well, yeah, it's fun. It's hilarious. And I want to do it back.

And so then it defeats the whole purpose of like, you can't do this. And I was like, oh, what, I'm sorry. Are they not allowed to have fun too? Right. And so to be able to laugh of these things, I don't know, I think that's the beauty of it, is all the, you know, I think if any other artists had done what Kanye had said, I probably would say fuck that person to hell, but because he happened to be my favorite artist, I'm like, well, and then I feel bad. A lot of my Jewish friends are like, how do you, like, you know, I've been looking and remembering some of the horrible shit he did. And I'm like, yeah, dude, it is awful. It's awful. It is awful. But I love him. Well, I will say this. He's saying it. He's not actions. I think if it, if someone, if someone of his actions were disgusting.

I'd be more embarrassed and sad about it. But it's his words, which I know come from a place of him trying to find the art in his speak. And you're like, I just, I think you're just looking down the wrong. He's like using the wrong color to paint with. And you're like, don't do that, dude.

And he's like, no, no, I swear there's something here. And you're like, I know there's not. I promise you, dude. But I will say from an artist's perspective, and I'm not one, but I would love to hear one. If anybody has one at home, please send in from an artist's perspective at gmail.com. If you have any advice, I'd love. But I just think I know what he's doing.

Yeah. That's the saddest part that you're like, oh, dude, you're just, I think you're being, you think you're being bold. You think you're being daring. You're being wrong. But that's what's good. Because in art mind, you're always tall like, well, bad can be good. And wrong is sometimes right. And trying is the best thing you can do, even when it's a complete failure.

Or miss. So that in his mind is like, no. No, dude, this is still a win. I'm exploring. We're digging. We're finding. But it's like, yeah, but it's on the heels of so much awful shit. And I don't know if it.

I don't know. And look, this is the hard part. I always was hoping, like, give me that Joaquin Phoenix. I'm still here. Documentary movie that's going to come out with all of this. But I knew it wasn't there. And as someone who, like, I feel, you know, I've lived with this guy in my life for 20 plus years where you feel you know the journey.

You know what he's been through. So you give this man as much benefit of the doubt as you can, versus somebody that maybe To someone else on the street Yeah, yeah Yeah, some on the street But then the bummer is, it's like, dude You have brought like a horrific

Like insidious vibe To your crowd To your fan base Like I went to his concert in L.A. A few ago with my best friend. You went to the sofa? I did. How was that?

I mean, it was amazing. Yeah. And also I'm like, is he done? And I don't want to believe that Like, it was just a goodbye? Or like is this? Or is it just like, Oh, is he toast?

Because like, I like some of the new album But then you see, you hear his fucking the beginnings of every single song it was like so poignant and lean and dense and punchy and funny and like progressive and you're like oh yeah that's what like that's what this guy brings even as even as silly as she don't believe in shooting stars she believes in shoes and cars it's like that

it's like I miss that and instead I'm getting like yeah I'm fucking great yeah and it's like I can vibe to that sometimes but I'm like I wish you were saying that without saying it right give me something else yeah but I think like this is a good transition for me because I'm interested so much and we talked a little bit offline

about the creation or the discovery of Jack and like where did that like where does that pop out of? My alter ego Jack Tucker is my stand-up comedy ego or alter ego a tremendous

performer. Why thank you. A tremendous performer. Not you, him. Yeah, of course Jack and I are different guys. Yes. I'm just some annoying bisexual Jew. Jack is a Christian man and he's a comic coin it clip it name of the episode annoying bisexual I didn't say that he just said that apropos nothing so the internet just has me just saying that and they're like what an asshole you going I don't think Kanye's messaging was wrong

I'm doubling down on everything so Tucker came from Vigo and I used to tour a lot we started our careers doing a double act called creatively if you can believe it Zach and Vigo how'd they come up with that and yeah real real knock it out of the park. And we were having trouble getting booked for gigs because people said what we did wasn't comedy because we were doing like more Mr. Bean physical type stuff. And to be fair, yeah, comedy. And to be fair, we were in like Lycra body suits and had props. You know, it's not so fun. You don't want those guys around, but we were good. And so, and I kept seeing like, and so that's kind of how Stamptown started was like, well, let's start our space for all these fucking freaks

and wackos that I think are way funnier than dipshit McGee with his hand in his pants being like, so I fingered my girlfriend the other day. And to be hilarious. Want to know how he did it? What did you do? Please tell me. How many fingers? How many fingers?

And where do you put them? And what do you do after? Play the piano? That's how that song was composed. It was a guy fingered someone for the first time. It went, da-da-da-da-da. He got really excited.

And then, okay, so yeah, what did I say? Something bisexual Jew bracket is the origin of fingering. That's the new title for this. But then with Tucker, I kept, I kind of had this crisis where I was like, where I was like, am I good at comedy? Am I a good comedian?

I think even to this day, I don't even call myself a comedian. I just say I'm a performer. You're a comedic performer. I'm a performer. I'm a performer. But you do have a comedic base. Yes.

Because inherently your attitude, your approach to things are very funny. I see you and I smile. Come on. I do. Well, it's just natural. Come on. Some people have that.

Some people just have a thing where it's like a ingrained in your DNA. And that's what I feel like, that's what I learned from Philippe. It's like you have that never-ending like distilled, engine of like pure love and joy to perform and entertain and be there. And I'm like, I will stay here as long as you guys want me to. If you're willing to watch this, I will do anything. I love this.

And with Tucker, I was like, okay, well, maybe I should just play a bad comedian. Like, I love Neil Hamburger and he was, he gave me my first ever paid gig and has been so supportive of me the whole time doing, you know, another version. Like, obviously I'm inspired by him and Tim Heideker, like the anti-comedy comedy comedy. You know, Sasha Baron Cohen was a huge influence for me. and like all that stuff in that world. And so when we started, we were like, well, obviously Jack Tucker is like a way more believable name

than my real name. Yeah, it is. And I didn't know anything about, I had never before. I was five years into my career and I'd never used a microphone before. I'd only ever done physical stuff. Right.

Hands free. You never know. You never know you to go. Yeah, and it was a really rough, horrific developmental process. Like, the show sucked for a long time. But then once you found it. Once I found, I mean, again, I've been doing it for seven years.

so I hope it's this good at this point, otherwise I'd be in trouble. Right. You know, but I, and I'll still bomb, but I think I've made like a bulletproof kind of costume. Well, because when you get to live in a character, it doesn't even matter if it bombs. Because it doesn't really bomb.

Well, I also, I always forget this. Like, I forget the jokes are bad. I genuinely verbatim find them fucking hilarious. They are very funny. And so I'm selling him with it. You do the perfect, like, clown delivery of, like, what's the dumbest thing you could do with, like, all the sincerity in your heart and, like,

do it. the best way humanly possible. And then be like, wasn't that amazing after telling the worst joke ever? And then just keep on going. The ticks that you do that are really fine amazing. I love the writing on the hand. I love looking at your hand.

Well, so I used to never actually, there was never anything on the hand. I've seen it where it wasn't anything in your hand. And then sometimes for Stampton when I like panic writing new jokes before I go out where it's like five minutes before the show and I'm like, boys, I got nothing. Like we gotta come up with something for tonight. And I'll panic write them on there.

But for the whole show though, always the gag was there was never anything on here. Because I've seen you show that there's nothing on your hand. I think it's extremely funny to look down at your hand. Great comedic tics of like, it's almost like you're a professional open micer. Like, yeah,

he's incredibly experienced, but he does all the same tropes that you would do if you've just begun your career. This was always what we would do for Tucker's bios or any of his web copy. He was like he's toured all over the world from like, or like a, oh, what was it?

It was like a regular, on like the upstate New York regional comedy scene. He's been all over the world from New York to Manhattan to Brooklyn. It's like, that's all he's. And we're also like, but he's also maybe never even been to New York. Yeah, no, I would imagine he never got to New York.

No, he never made it to the city, but he knows everybody, but he also knows no one. And we, our lore for him was that he lives in the basement of, in Chinatown of, like, a noodle shop and eats barrels of fermented noodles and gets what's called noodle-noggin. And so he has like a bit psychosis all the time. His best friends is rubber chicken, chicken. Love chicken. And we were saying that he just doesn't like live, he doesn't even live anywhere, he just kind of like spawns there and is just like lurking all the time.

We, we pitched a show called Jack Tucker Wonders of the World, where he's just wandering around, wondering what the hell's going on. Like that, I like, to me, that's him. He's just like somewhere. Like, he right now, I know he has to be in Austin tomorrow for some shows. He does. And I don't know how he's going to get there, but he doesn't fly, right? I think he's afraid to fly.

I don't know if he's allowed to fly. He's tried to bring gun. Well, I've gotten trouble bringing like fake dynamite and guns and bags of money on planes. TSA freaked out, huh? Yeah, dude. The fake gun was not a good move. I've gotten in trouble a few times where I have to, like, I'll get in front of it and be like, I'm a comedian.

I'm just, these are props. I'm just joking. They're not real. They're like, oh, you're a comedian? Tell us a joke. I'm like, well, I don't really tell jokes. And then I got, like, absolutely eaten alive by a TSA agent in Syracuse who was like, get a load of this guy.

He's a comedian doesn't tell any freaking jokes. And everyone's, like, pissing themselves. And I'm like, you know, I've rubber chickens in my bag. Like a snake in a can pops out. It's, like, so embarrassing. But they're not wrong. No. They're not wrong.

No. What's the alternative is that? You have to ship it. Don't we ship stuff sometimes? Sometimes, which is so expensive. Oh, yeah, it's a ripoff. Because otherwise you got a packet in your carry-in. If you have fake dynamite, what do you...

I usually put it always under the plane, but I've forgotten sometimes. But it's like... Because if it's under the plane, then they still scan it, don't they? Of course, and I sometimes would write like a little letter that was on top of it. These are all props for a comedy show. Right. Or I would tape it on my suitcase. I feel like it's easier to bring it through carry-on because that way you can show them and talk to them.

If it's under the plane, imagine they pull you off the plane. Dude. They found something in your bag. Well, they always search my bag. You gotta be flagged now. Oh, 100%. But luckily they've... It's been the same dynamite for seven years.

Same dynamite. Same type of dynamite. Same type of dynamite. I got in trouble actually going to France recently when I was, this was just like so embarrassing. I was going through the Eurostar and they have like, and it was the French side, so I was trying to flex my French a little bit as I was trying to come through. And I realized I had all my props and I was like, actually I don't know how to talk about this at all. I don't know how to express that this is. In French, yeah. Yeah.

So I was like, hey, I'm a comedian. I have all these fake props. I don't need this. Like you can throw them away. And the guy was like, you can't have this in here. If we see this, we're gonna get in trouble. I'm like, please take it out. And he's like, look, we'll run it through and see how it goes.

It runs through. It's all fine. And he goes, you're all good. And I was like, oh, thank you, man. And I lift my bag off. I put it on the ground and immediately I forgot I had a megaphone in there. And the alarm starts going off. And it's like, wow, wow, wow, we'll, like this.

And I open my bag, dude. There's nine rubber chickens. There's like, there's a fake, there's bags full. There's money bags, money and guns. And I'm like absolutely like doing this. And I like, pop the battery out and kind of like put it away like a, like this. I'm like, I'm so sorry.

You know, put it back in there, and I lift the bag back up, and you just hear like, it's like, all the chickens going off. It's so, and then, and then, like, someone came up to me and was like, dude, I, like, I love your videos, and I looked back at the guy watching me being like, who the fuck is this guy that is like, because I don't look cool either. You know, I'm like, so tired and hung over. It's a moment for comedy that somebody goes, dude, huge fan. And the TSA guy's like, what the fuck is going on?

I don't know who you are. Like, you all feel like a setup, like you hired him to say that. feels like I'm prank, I'm like, I'm not impractical joking you. I'm like actually just trying to go to my friend Maddie's house. Again, shout out good Maddie. Sal, Murph, come on and reveal you, Sal. On this episode, impractal jokers, we're sending, we're sending

clowns across the border. The worst, yeah, clouds across the border, the worst people to send through with all of the, all of everything that they have with it. Well, Bob got busted. Where were we with the dildo that went off or the vibra that went off? We were in Australia. He had a pocket pussy. Yeah, we're overseas, and he has a, he is a pocket pussy, and it's a pretty advanced one. This one is very,

it plugs into the walls. It plugs in the, it's very high end. So funny. Well, you never leave home without it. No, no, of course. So we're going through customs and it's like a huge to do. Like, they're making a very big deal out of it. And they're like, remove it.

They don't have pre-check. So we have to go through normal security for the first time. No. Who doesn't have pre-check? No, no. No, they don't do it over in Australia. There is no. Of course.

You're in general admission. And also you're an American, so you get in line with other fuck-ed Americans. Yeah, yeah, it's nightmare. So forever and ever and ever and ever. Wow, Sydney was a really nice place. I loved going to Melbourne. Yeah. Their coffee was crazy.

What about Perth? Have you heard of Perth? I hear it's the furthest, most isolated major city in the world. It's a person, hellhole. I would never go back. Unless they paid me nice. And they pay you nice, you will go back. I will go back, and I will retract that statement.

I'll go back to that weird sunken Kmart. Give me a Midwesterner's idea of Australia. Oh, Australia is crazy. I hear the bugs are freaking huge down there. What, they come in there, they crawl into your freaking pants, make you have to take a crap. It's kind of like my aunt kind of. Yeah.

I hear you went down there to Australia's. Yeah. What do they do down there? You know the biggest problem with that is? If anything happens, you're so far from home? What are you going to do? Get on an airplane. Your grandma dies.

You're stuck in Australia. What do you? What? You get home two days later. How many days behind her day? Yeah. And what are they going to? They're going to bury her up in the sky because it's all.

upside down. It's all upside down there. When you flush your poop, does it float? Does it float? Be honest. Like NASA? You got NASA coming out of your ass? Oh, I'm bad. I'm bad. My favorite is like the Midwest jokes that are like that but they really believe it. Like, no, no,

the spiders are bigger than humans. They're like, they're not. They're not. They're just like this. Yes, they are. I saw it on a documentary. Oh, oh, on National Geographic. They had a whole piece about these spiders. They're always running out of breath. These spiders shut her down there's so my brother does a character called chicago dave which is based off the 50-50

raffle guy at the bulls game oh love that guy and he would always go 50 50 got a pay to play here you go here's your chance and oh it's always about like you know don't take this the wrong lay pal you know i have to go i have to go drop the kids off the pool don't be careful though you know and then there was there was one guy at the game for real that he there was like a bull's game this is like peak derrick rose era where one he hit a three and one guy turned to the guy like next him that was in front of us and he was but gosh, I haven't seen the United Center this hot since Rodman was dating Madonna. That's like every time there's a good mood in the room or good crowd,

but we'll look at each other. I'm like, wow, really, it feels like Rodman and Madonna out here, right? You know, a little code word to each other. Rodman and Madonna. Remember that when he was stating her? I always say Chicagoans all know. They all think everybody knows everybody. Oh, and even if you-

Remember Marcus's brother who used to, he used to work off of Pulaski? Was he the one that worked at Menards or was that his cousin? No, that's his cousin. His cousin worked at Menards. In fact, his sister was the store manager. They always keep going until they get out of breath. It's unbelievable. I don't know why they're like tired.

They just got to get it all out. He tired themselves out. Oh, yeah. He was at, uh, his sister went to a Tulane. Did she go there? I think she did. She studied communicators. Oh, yeah.

You know what? Look, her nephew is a, he was played the basketball at New Trier. But when he was young and he played on those new cheer teams, I'll take. He had a bad attitude. Bad attitude. Well, he said he'd get in the head, you know, fights with the coach. Yeah. And coach would have to bench him.

He'd be bitching the whole time. And let me tell you something, you don't fight with your coach. No. Especially if you don't want, if you're trying to get the snacks. He's getting none of those little ritz crackers in the Capriza, nothing at all when it's over. Anyway, so I took the kid to Luminati's last night. They complained the whole time. Pizza takes too long to get there.

I said, give it a minute. It didn't, they didn't have enough time to make it downtown. Downtown. Go to Garrets, go to Portillos. Couldn't even get myself a front. freaking rack of ribs. Barnelli's is shut. It's just a normal portillo,

so I got to go back on the Dan Ryan. Dan Ryan. It's the greatest cultural accent. From a regional standpoint, there is nothing stronger. There's nothing stronger. New York has a funny bit. You know, like, when SNL does New York bits,

I'm always like, eh, all right. I think it's when you hear a real Bronx guy, you're like, oh, you fucking rule. Yeah, that's different. Yeah. But no one really characterizes it that well because there's so much like, there's like gutteral vigor inside of those New York accents.

But Chicago, I don't care who it is. It sounds funny. Always. Even the most like, even someone that works out of the mercantile exchange downtown, but he's still got this accent, you know, that's your dad. Yeah. He's still got to have that like deep Chicago accent. Yeah.

My dad says Chicago too, which is weird. Chicago. We have Chicago, Chicago, Chicago or Chicago. Coffee. I met a friend of a friend who called it Milfago. Milfago. Milfago, he goes, the amount of milfs we went there. It was unbelievable.

These East Coast guys were like, we went to Chicago. Biggest Milf city in the world. And I thought, that could be true. Hey, that's my mother you're talking about, right? You better watch yourself. You better watch your tone. You better watch your tone. I'll send you.

I also, I think, like, this is also just the fun part is like, I love hearing anyone speak English in any accent. Me too. And especially in, like, to me, I speak the littlest bit of Norwegian that Vigo has taught me. Can you give me some? But it's so stupid. I'm not a vampire, but I suck blue. What is that just?

I'm not a vampire, but I suck blood. And so to me, how I am talking in Norway, it's a sound like this in Norwegian. And it's like, yeah, it's just funny if I was speaking like this and someone heard that. Right. And with London, the UK, we have great relationship with me in the UK because they love, they love to make fun of me. I love to make fun of them, but I love them and I think they love me. I know they love you.

I love them there. And it's like, I just, every time I hear it, I feel bad because I mimic. I don't know if you do too, but I mimic accents a lot all the time. I find myself when I go to France, I go, pardon? Why am I saying that? Truly.

I don't need to do that. Dude, you know what the worst is? When I'm in London too much, I get this little thing a little bit. Yeah, you ride, and then I come back here and I just, I'm like a fucking whack job. And I'm saying words. Like I said advert the other day

instead of advertisement or ad, and everyone was like, oh, Mr. European. And I'm like, man, fuck you. Yeah, actually, yeah. I live there. does sound significantly better. I know. But certain things throw me off

that I don't know how to get around it when they're the creators of the language, but when they say, when we go like, oh, you went to the hospital. They go, he went to hospital. Yeah, yeah. You're like, you're missing a...

I know. And it sucks because then I've got some of those now. And then I've... My English has only deteriorated over the last like 10 years. Well, because you're playing so much. And I'm... What is your actual language?

Who are you? Push in slowly, pushing slowly and add some music. Push in slowly. I guess if I had to take one little pick, I guess I'd probably be like one of those, like, fatheads that you blew up and put on the old convenience stores of, like, you know, Dick Buccas or Ryanne. Have you ever been in their basement? You see how many autographs his dad got?

See this? See this right here? Right here. This is Ted Lilly. He threw for the Cubs a few years. Lefty, Southpaw, had a hook. Had a hook that everybody could in. His brother-in-law, he was a state farm agent.

And he insured, they did our insurance, one of those insurance things, so you know who spoke at those, Tim Rains from the White Sacks, Tim the Rock Rains, did a whole thing for them. And that's how he might have. Don't even get me on that Frank Thomas guy. I started that hair treatment. I saw him on those freaking billboards. I mean, he was as bald as a baby's bottom.

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We've been playing, again, shout out to my other friend Kyle Legacy. Me, my brother and Vigo have been hanging out a lot lately, and we were just playing some bullshit video game, and we were doing it as our friend Kyle. He's a fucking guy from Liverpool. He's a fucking Scouser. He's like, oh, I'll put it in the fucking net. I'm right here.

Here we go. and just like doing this all day long and just do him and then eventually yesterday I feel like I hit a point of mania where I was like, guys I need to like step outside for a second. I've like I've like jumbled my brain so far that I think you might be for sure. You're like am I masquerading

as who I used to be? For sure. Or am I still this. Even in the UK, I'm always like, oh, Bob, how are they? Yeah, brove you are. Go on lads, let's. Go on lads! And we're put, All right, mate. I do love All right. All right, mate. All right is the greatest friend. All right, mate, you're right.

All right. It's such a beautiful way of saying hello. Yeah, I know. Because we do the bullshit. What do we say all the time? How are you? How are you? Yeah.

Shut up. And then this thing, this whole, like, thank you for asking. Yeah. Which is also, it did not. We don't mean either side of that. Not at all. I want to get in there and be like, what a bitch. That's all I want to say.

That's what we really want to say. That's it all the time. Which is what all right, mate. All right, mate. He's almost like, get fuck, nerd. What's going on? Yeah, he's your way. Is your well, proper cunt, innie?

The fucking fat old cunt. I love that shit. And then I get, like, we say with our crew, because, you know, we lived, like, strategically nomadic, which is, like, the nice way of saying homeless for a while. Without home. Yeah, without, we were without home. We were without roof.

But, you know, I think that's actually unfair to people who don't, because we were being led into places. And, you know, worst case, you know. You just moved seamlessly through time. You were just living as an artist. It's kind of just skirting through the world. Where is your permanent residence then? Technically.

Is the government going to listen to this? No. Okay, yeah. Um, uh, uh, some random S corp in Delaware. Good. No, no. Smart. Yeah, no, I, uh, I'm living in Montana for quite a while.

Hmm. I'm visiting Los Angeles, actually. I don't live here, though. That's why my car's not registered here alleged. I've said too much. I know, I know a lawyer. My cousin's an attorney. My cousin's attorney.

Now, he doesn't practice no more, but he knows a lot of good people coming up. Francis. Oh, Francis Teraci. Do you remember that? Francis Teraci. Lawyer. Attorney, Francis Doracy. That one, there was, I mean, a Menards was like always a classic

Say big money at Menards. Today. So good. Why was the today so necessary? We also, every time I do the Chicago shows, we use it as a hot key. And I'll bring up Menards and then nobody will do it. I'm like, I'm sorry, is no one from this fucking city? Like, I'll do some stuff.

People don't catch that? Some of them don't. I think there's more transplants there than there aren't anymore. How about this one? This might be before your time now. Oh no. What was that? It must be Eagle Man.

I've got something. thing for you. I do remember Eagle Man. And a big bird would shit a fucking, he would shit an egg on their car and she goes, oh wow, look at those low rates. That's one of my favorite. It must be Eagle Man.

Oh, yeah. Or that old car's worth money. He pulls the car door off of Victory Auto Wreckers. That was our Chicago style softball team when I started a, I was in a 16-inch no glove here in L.A. And we started, everyone had team names. There was like the Red Line or like the dick of dogs

or whatever. And we were Victory Auto Wreckers. One of the greatest auto body shop city. Oh my God. Francis Geraci is... Peter Francis Geraci. Peter Francis Jeracy, that is like fully opening a little crack in my brain. Like, now I'm thinking of like Pooleorama on 41 North.

Like, I'm like, well, yeah, you got to get your play set from there if you're going to get one. If you're going to get one, you got to get it from up there. You got to go to Pularama. They just, they just do it better up there. The wood is stained real nice. But this is, I mean, this is also all we do. It's bringing me back. All day long.

Well, then it influences other stuff. Like, is that kind of started, was that the beginning? Of Jack, like did Jack birth from this kind of goofing thing talking goofing into something? So yeah, so I mean we've been talking and go- I think I feel confident that I've been talking in goofing In a way that has led to this maybe for about 10 years with friends with friends with with specifically like I was always a prankster and a jokester and I loved it. I wasn't funny at all But like I like loved it and then at clown school. I was funny twice in the two years once by accident once kind of on purpose Ask and trust me ask anybody that I went to school with I I was not, I was well liked and I was enthusiastic.

You just didn't, you didn't find it there. I was also 20. You know, I was 20 to 22 and I was a baby. And I, and then Philippe would always say to me like, you'll get it. Like, it'll come in 10 years. It'll come in 10 years. He was right, huh? He was right.

God, he was right. Here I am now. $20,000, no savings, no debt, a car that doesn't work. And an apartment that you, it looks more like a trap house than it does a home. But in a way, the trap house is my home. He sounded like Gucci man over there. Who is your young dog? Yeah, young thug that guy.

Who'd you go see at Coachella? Youngtug, he's he allowed to do that after his Rico case? Is that thunder? Is it a bomb? I don't know. That was creepily loud. It's still happening, right? It sounds like an accident.

Yeah. For people at home, we just heard a wild noise outside. It sounded like really loud thunder. No, but it was not. That's definitely not thunder. It had been something broke, bang, crash, big boom. This kind of happened, by the way, you're going to be on the internet trying to look for what it might have been, as if it could go up within seconds of it happening.

I don't know. I just looked at the weather. Well, we were going, it's not raining, is it? No. We were going, I was just back in Chicago, and we were driving. And, of course, like, genuinely, right off 55 was, like, a massive fire. Massive. And my mom's like, check to see online what the fire is.

I'm like, it's happening right now. Like, I don't know. Who's on Twitter? Like, also fighting the fire on Twitter. been like check this out guys fucking sick but that but that is the new world but people do that like that guy in Ontario that lit the warehouse on fire yeah or or even that was insane he filmed it well what about also the people in there was it in Switzerland on New Year's they had like the ski loft that like lit fire because

there was like a bottle service that little whole thing and then people were trapped oh my god like 50 people died maybe even more and a bottle service person did it it was like someone getting it and they like held it up they held up like a sparkler too high you know what I'm talking about right 41 people 401 people what 115 non-fatal injuries. Yeah, and it was like a resort, and then there was people just on the other side of the glass filming being like, yo, what the fuck?

And like, not telling anyone. And I'm like, dude, smash a goddamn window. Like, what... Where it is again? That's thunder? I'm blown. My mind is blunt. Is someone moving something upstairs?

No. Everyone's... This is like a post house upstairs. Oh my gosh. Stick my head outside? No, it's kind of fun. Yeah, I kind of like... Imagine we're just being bombed right now.

Yeah, more. More like, anyway. So, more Chicago access. Chicago. all this stuff yeah yeah it reminds me a d-day yeah kind of a little bit sorta store up the boats

we're boys we're sailing from Lake Michigan all the way to the Pacific okay what's your what's your favorite great lake well I mean Michigan is an easy one to say I mean superior is gonna be the one that people talk about the most because of the name yeah but but because it's the best no it's literally not Michigan is the best and you know that this gets from Minnesota so he thinks he's got any sort of revenue by the way you're lucky you're in the Midwest you're too far west you're too far west

for us to even consider you the Midwest. And too far north to barely not even be Canadian. Yeah, so honestly, you're not really one of us, but we'll let you have it. Yeah, hey, fuck you, man. Go check out what that is outside. We let him have it the way we let Ohio have it, where we're like, okay, because you're not the East Coast,

although you are on the Eastern Time Zone. Why? That's my biggest annoyance about them. Half of it's in Eastern Time Zone, and you're like, well, this doesn't make sense. You're not one of us then. Just make a pick. Well, here's the problem. We won't draft them.

No. And neither will the east. We have to kind of hold on to them. but it's like I don't want Ohio but you can't take it from me Indiana is an old friend and Missouri is a buddy and Iowa of course is where everyone goes to college that's from Chicago yeah yeah go hack eyes and Wisconsin is the greatest secret in the Midwest I will say that's the greatest kept secret in the Midwest you know where a lot of my childhood memories took place uh Lake Delavan or I mean I'm sorry at the Dells yeah the Dells

Wisconsin Dells yeah Colahari yeah I got the freaking waters like that shoots you oh it's crazy how fast you know You know how face you can go on it? They'll make up numbers, but everyone will buy it to go. I heard that thing goes 88, 88 and a half miles an hour. They'll go, 88. Holy shit. That's 20 more than a freaking highways.

That's fast. Wait, also, what's up? Okay, what's up with our 55 mile an hour speed limit highways? Do Taco Carlson's version of that real quick? No. What is he doing? He's like, what the phrase he says is, he's like, he just going on here?

What's going on here? In California, liberals, liberal zone. You can go 65, but you can go 65, but you're. You can kind of almost unpolicably go 85. But in the Midwest, get this, in the Midwest. 55. Cops, all over, ready to get you. Because it's a family zone.

Anyways, I'm here with Kim Jong-un. Yeah, you are correct, though. The speed limit in Southern California is as fast as you can go. As fast as you can go as long as no one sees you. As long as nobody gets you. And by the way, I've had CHP pass me before on the freeway, and I'm definitely speeding. And they're going to fly past.

me because they've got other shit to worry about. Always. But in the Midwest, you're right. You have 55, a law we can live with. My dad says that all the time. A law. 55, it's a law we can live with. Is that not in a nutshell, the most, like that is Chicago.

That's Chicago. Midwest spirit. Yeah. It's the law we could live with. Don't need to press it. And honestly, how fast do you need to get there? Because I read an article in the trip. They said if you go 10 miles an hour over to speed limit, you only save yourself

by a minute and a half. And on top of that, as well, I hear you go too fast. Your neuron don't fire so on. You're not firing normal. So you're going to miss. stuff that's happening around you. Somebody's merging. And God forbid

they don't put on a freaking blinker. What are not blinking? This guy, how is he driving like a dope? It's also, well, this is the difference. That's my dad. Dope is a good... He's driving like a dope.

That's this, you are unlocking every dad that I grew up with in such a wonderful way. Because my dad, my dad's from New York. I almost the New York. I almost reverse European to him. He's from hospital in New York. He's from hospital in New York.

So he's New York. guy who's been in Chicagoland area now for you know his most of his life um I think now it's about half and half wow yeah maybe a little over half he have a New York accent um no he kind of is like dead neutral yeah he's like dead neutral American he used to have more of a New York accent he doesn't ever get Chicago but I think when he's around New York people more it'll it pops out pops out it happens when I go back to Chicago and it naturally starts to come out certain words yeah I think I'm pretty good I'm pretty broadcast English at this point but I do have certain words that will pop

out that I hear myself say. Like ketchup potato farm. Potatoes? Potatoes? Or if I say like a back. I will say A's sometimes more so than not. Yeah, back. Or others than egg.

I'm not like egg sandwich from Sarkas. Egg Sam. Egg sandwich. Yeah, no, I think you'll find it in stuff even more. But that, the accent does something to my youth because it's, yeah, the 55 of law, we can live with sounds like everything Chicago really is. Everything. Don't worry about it.

Don't worry. It's going to be okay. What happened? But Chicago used to be like, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm a little biased. I don't mean at all to shit on the city. I think, you know, when I left, that part of my life was over. So I don't love to go back. I love to see my family and I like to see my mom and dad.

They're not together anymore, but I like to go. Of course. And so that's part of it. Probably I don't want to go there for those reasons. But on top of that, like, I just, I don't know, I didn't, I'd rather go to Paris or London or New York. Going home doesn't do the same thing to you. No, but I imagine if I wasn't from Chicago and I went to visit, I would think it fucking rocked. Yeah, I agree.

Chicago rules, but it is different now than what I felt like. Everything is different now than it was, and that's such a cliche, nonsensical thing because of COVID. It did that to everywhere. But some cities managed to bounce back in a way that New York is the same. Better than ever. Yeah, it feels better than ever. It stinks. It's, it bums me out.

I was just there last week, and I was like, God, it's fucking. They're back. Yeah, New York is back. And they know it. It's different. I mean, and I don't live there anymore, so I don't know, but every time I go back, it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like the place that was like the birthplace of like gritty, fun jazz music or like, or blues or like, or even any good hip hop. I'm like, I can't name a good Chicago rapper that's come out in the last 10 years.

I know I'm not really in tune with enough of it. He might know better than I do, but I think. Because I'm like, who is our, we hung our hats on chance and then he, ooh, I loved my wife his way out of his own career. Saaba is pretty good. Yeah. But he also was dropping over 10 years ago. Then we had this big influx of rappers flying in the danger zone who ended up getting murdered or going away. I guess you had Dirk and like...

Yeah, but there's such a dangerous point in Chicago rap where you're like, this is all murder-based? This is bad. This is like not a good... No. I don't know. It's almost like the glorification of gangster rap for when I was a kid. It was so incredible because it was an answer to a time. That's what it was.

But it only got very real when they actually started dying. Yeah. But in Chicago, rappers were, like, going into it, ready to die. Ready to die. It wasn't like a great story arc. It was like, we will shoot and kill. That's why I feel to me, I mean, I listen to a lot of music, but I listen definitely most to hip-hop, R&B, and rap.

And, like, to me, it is the music of the people. It is the music of the streets. And I don't, I think some people obviously are, like, you know, the way that online, you can have some creators that are making absolute dog shit and some that are making amazing stuff. And it's just how you look at it. You can't generalize all of it. But I think a lot of them,

it was like, this was just their way to express the way that they're living. And there was others that were like, oh, no, I'm still fucking around that I'm still gonna keep doing this. And it's like, or the people like the Takashi 6-9s

who are like trying to do this and you're just actually making everyone's lives worse. And you're like, man, get the fuck out of here. That is an incredible, a performative. It's crazy. It's kind of a case study for success

in the entertainment industry that you're like, you can kind of manufacture everything. He also just as a Latino guy just says the N-word all the time and everyone's like, okay I guess he does and you're like... But he's kind of like self-admittedly manufactured, right? He like he admits that like he wasn't involved

in that stuff, didn't want to be, it was all fake, and they still kind of... But then still talks, he's like, I got shooters, I got bangers all the shit, they get his ass kicked all the time and then it still works because obviously somebody's buying it it's happening, right? But I'm like, I think he's there's no way he's got like I don't know anyone who's like, let me throw on that Takashi.

Yeah, but that's because of who you surround yourself with. I guarantee you people are. Well, I'm hanging out with a lot of like furries and... I do. We did on... Oh, I feel like I shouldn't talk about it on the bad game show. I don't want to give anything away. I want to give anything away. But I should say that you make a wonderful guest appearance on the bad game show.

I don't want to give anything away because... At the time of my life. Yeah, at the time of life. It's so annoying because I want to talk about it. But for the fans out there... It was fun because I feel like... Like, we, that was the first time we ever met in person. Yeah.

But we had only been crushing each other online. I was loving it. Yeah, me too. And then, and then I had, I didn't tell Bobby this, but I had met Bobby. He would never remember. 15 years ago, I used to intern at UCB. And he came, and he came through and was like doing a stand-up set. And I was like, this is so cool.

Like, oh my God, it's Bobby. And then when I felt like he was on board with me being there, but I felt it wasn't until the bit where I was like, okay, he loves me now. I'm in. With Bobby, you have to prove your love. Yeah. And by the way, and he is extremely love, he loves, he loves, he loves, he loves, if you prove your way in.

He's not as open and accepting right away. He's very skeptical of people, but not a negative way. Which I understand people want shit from him all the time. So I get it. And I'm like, hey, man, I'm not trying to get anything. Even with us, like I sent you a message to even do these with you. Or I'm like, hey, I just, I feel like we would really get along. I think it'd be a lot of fun.

It's okay if it doesn't happen. And I feel like with Bobby, I'm like, yo man, I'm not trying to get anything from you. I just feel like we're going to fuck around really hard together and we're going to make each other laugh. I was dying, dude. I had tears in my eyes. I unfortunately couldn't even get through the bit. through the bit. It was really hard. Sometimes, you know, sometimes I'm so like, uh, overly conscious of not breaking, right? We try really hard to just not break in a lot of different ways. But sometimes

it's just, it's so hard to not break and you think, I guess I should just break and then keep it that way. Yeah. Because I can't, I can't dance on both sides. So once I cracked, it was over. I had to let it go. I couldn't, I was like, I'm never going to be able to go backwards. You can't. No, and to me I'm also like, I don't know, there's a difference between laughing at your own jokes and somebody making you laugh. I was killing me, dude. And to me, I love, like, I love on Stamptown

when people are cracking me the fuck up. Like, yeah, it's my dream. I'm surrounded with all of my friends who I think are the funniest people in the world. Having fun. Having a blast. What else do you want? Like, when you, when you have a great rhythm with, I don't know how you know how to say it,

he who does sound for you. You know, our... Your art director? What is it? Our side... We always a sound guy, but it's so much more than that. I know. We always joke saying Button Man.

Button Man. Because it sounds so, it sounds like so dismissive. More button man. Yeah. We were thinking, okay, what about this new character name? By the way, last night we decided the name's delicious, delicious, never malicious. Ooh. Delicious, never malicious.

I don't know how we got to him yesterday, but... Oh, I think I know. It's gonna be in our show later. Don't say, don't give it away then. Okay. I like finding the new characters. We talked like when I, I, tested for S&L and I came up with a terrible character that almost all of my friends said don't and put into the tape

But I did it anyway because it was the most fun to do sometimes it's not the funniest But I did um kid I like this list here this side one so good It's one of my favorite this one friend says name was Salami Sammond I'm a sushi chef to the size He's a sushi chef to the stars Of course please and it's I'm very few in speaking ladies you know I understand but and then I wrote this entire script of every piece of sushi he caught up had an S in it somewhere Yeah so it just layered through the whole bit But that just shows your skill. But you know what they said when I went out to fucking New York

when I went to test? They emailed, they were like, no need to do the Susie Shep Fitt. And I was like, it's my favorite. It's the most fun one, but I didn't do it. No. Because they were like, I don't think this is, you know, on that show, they're always like,

and we're not going to talk about it. I'm just saying. We both, we talked about this. We did. We both have tested, and we both have similar experiences. Yes. And they say you have to bring something

that could most likely end up on the show. That's their, obviously, that's their business model. They want you to bring stuff that will probably. that could get on the show. That's so funny because I brought them, like truthfully, I did some of the funniest sets I've ever done in my life in those showcases,

and I'd say zero of it could live on the show. Right. That's the problem. But undeniably, it was hilarious. It's funny. Dude, I can't believe, I told you, I threw in a last minute character. I got the call from God because I was doing well.

And I was feeling good, and I was like, fuck it. Let's, like, all these were meticulously planned. I knew what I was doing. You practiced them. I practiced them, and I was like, let me throw in a wild card of one I've never done in a set. I've only ever filmed in a video with my comedy partners.

Insanely fine. And then, you did this drive me. Why you're on stage at 8H? Exactly. Lauren's there and I'm like, here we go. And I could just, I told you as soon as I did that I felt the vibe change. You know, everyone loves Kieran Culkin at a birthday party and everyone loves Eminem forgetting about Dre, two things I never want to do. But God forbid I do Dennis Cleeseby driving instructor.

You watch your hands out of the car like a clock. Look at the two. Look at this. It's like I'm driving my wrist. Whoa. Well. Well. Sorry, there's a bug in my throat.

La. And I was just doing like over and over and over. It was stuck in my pizza And I just kept doing this And it wasn't funny at all Yes it is But in the end And then I wish I could have zoomed out

In that context And been like guys You might not be laughing at this But like isn't that so funny That this is what's happening right now It's almost like a call for you to go You stop for a second goes Guys I'm just kidding around

Yeah I'm just having some fun You just tell them guys I'm just joshing up here Well that's the beauty about Tucker is I think I really Like my really good friend Tom Who I've just I've mentioned a few times times Tom said that Tucker was the perfect case for me that it it for it frames all of my sicknesses as superpowers yeah and like like your illiteracy and you're like my my racism

right sexism right that's really a homophobia no no I like to show that off as well Tucker's quite class Tucker's very classist yeah he hates he couldn't finish first grade he hates his classes oh my god it's such a great character and honestly it's so fun man I I love watching you. And also, you tape the special. You premiered the special a week ago. Yes. Right?

Yeah, about, like five days ago. Yeah, Jesus. When are we airing? Hopefully in the next week. I think we're aiming for a 420 release to go epic weed day so everyone can smoke some weed and watch their favorite little comedian. Smoking weed all the time and day. All the time of the day.

So you don't know when. it's gonna premiere. I'm not entirely, we're like going through the final mixes right now. We've just had, because we're like prepping for this Netflix special. Yeah. And hopefully that one is awesome. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome, dude. Oh, man. There's stuff. After we did your guys' show the other week, me and Corey were like, we gotta come up with something with the two you guys. Because again, you would both be so good on the show. Say less, dude. You make the call and I'll come do it, whatever it is. I'm always, I want to play, I want to play. So I'm thinking of a character for you called Black Andrew.

You think I haven't done that? I go to 8-H. I'm like, hi, Lauren Michaels. My name is Andrew Santino. First up, Black Andrew. I turn around and just rubbing charcoal in my face. No, no, no. He's doing it. We've always wanted, we want to do.

And Colin Jost would be like, yes, here it is. You see that, Jay? You make the call, we'll come by. I got to say, I love the two of there's chemistry. I don't know. I don't know if we need to talk about SNL on this podcast. No, but they're great. I do love the two of them.

No what I mean? It's one of the best. Again, it's just you find your buddy that you just fuck around with. And they love, like, that's the thing. They love to put each other in the shit. and they both know it's safe to do that because it's like, of course. I think when people on the internet

project this like nastiness and then this, they put the nastiness onto you which makes you feel like you can't take risks to try stuff. It's like people go, oh, because you want to be an edge lord and it's like, no dude,

I'm not trying to cause any pain to anybody. I'm just trying to say something fucked and funny. And now if I can't do that then everything becomes distilled and sucks and then the only thing we watch is like here's like the five different types of water bottles. If you're a plastic water bottle, you're a dork.

If you're a guy, Here's what your water bottle says about you. I hate those people. I'm like literally, die. We don't need that. It's making us stupid and crazy, man. It's awful. It's true.

I hate it. We need to be able to play. Yeah. I'm excited for the special. Oh my God, for the taping. Whatever you want me to do, do it. Please. Is there anything you want to plug before we disappear into the night?

Oh, my God. I can't believe this is over already, man. I know. I've had so much fun. Yeah, there's a nice little mom and pop shop down in Evanston. You guys love it called Buffalo Joe's. I guess yeah the Jack Tucker special once that out it's gonna be on YouTube It's gonna be probably the most expensive YouTube special that's existed that cannot monetize

I can't I cannot Well hold on I cannot push this enough that I think it's one of the most groundbreakingly funny Honest wild characters where you can disappear as an audience member and not feel self-conscious about like enjoying the party I'm saying that the audience I'm not gonna compliment you because I know you get all blushy and shy when I do stuff like that But it is it's really fun and I really really, really highly encourage people to go watch it because I do think it's not like other stuff you've seen. You see, you see a lot of other stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there.

There's a lot of comedy out there, especially today. Every fucking Netflix special that comes out great. There's a lot of funny stuff. But this is remarkably unique. And so I'm just, anyway, keep going. Yeah. Well, yeah, I feel a lot of times and I try, maybe this is good to put it on camera. So I remember this is like, I try to never get bitter. I try to only ever use that, like, fuel to not like get caught in a rut, but to like fling out of there. and just stay inspired and hungry, but I feel like we're still, me and Vigo talked about this last night.

I think our strength as performers is to be able to meet the moment. And we can meet the moment and take people wherever we need to go and we will do anything for as long as they want to watch it. And I feel like with a lot of the art that we've made throughout our careers,

it's not ahead of the time and a hubris self-sucking your own cock way, but it's like, they are not there yet, but we made something that I feel is good enough to get the full treatment. Yeah. And that's what I feel with Tucker. I believe, like, I trust me,

I'm the first person to hate everything that I make. Yeah, you should. And I do. And I still feel that. Me too. And that's the only reason, and I think that's what makes me

a good producer and a good performer. And, you know, I don't ever want that hunger to die. And I'm also like, yes, I'm thrilled that this will ultimately be put on YouTube and everyone will be able to see it. And I'm also bummed that I'm like, damn, y'all, like,

look at all these other people getting so much money and so many opportunities to make absolute bullshit. And, and, but ultimately, I'm like, stay with it, like, keep your head down, eyes on your own paper. like keep dreaming and do this and like, you know, but yeah, it's a, it sucks to feel pathetic sometimes. But then I'm like, well, that's a clown. I'm a clown. This is what I have to do. And what matters more than anything is that you're getting to create your own world having a good time.

It's what we did with Bad Game Show is like every night we went home and we were all like, I guess we got to make that. You know, like we got to make this fun party thing. No one's really making money on that show. We lost a pretty good amount of money making it. But I was like at least we're having a really fun time and they're. nobody nobody told us you can't no nobody went guys you no one's coming up to you being like hey man I don't think I don't think Jack can say that you're like no he can that's the world we're making it's all fake it's all fantasy town yeah so let's live in fantasy town forever I would love that that's my dream do me one favor before you go say one word or one phrase into that camera right

there one word or a phrase it used to be it used to be a word and then some people want to leave a phrase of wisdom or you could just leave it something simple it's up to you whenever you're I'll leave y'all with my favorite, my favorite quote from Radrick Davis, the aforementioned Gucci main. If you don't got no sauce, you lost, but you could also get lost in the sauce. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whisk, whiskey. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like that hers, the ginger gene is a curse.

Ginger's abugers. You want me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Ginger's, oh hell now. is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.