Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep154 - Schmucks Podcast

Episode Date: May 19, 2019

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There's no link to our Instagram page. We don't have one. Also, we encourage our listeners to give us a five star review on iTunes. And then, shit all over us in the comments section. Today, we'll be reviewing a podcast called Schmuck's Podcast. We have both listened to the show separately. We have not discussed it with each other beforehand. Let's get into it.

We're listening to Schmuck's, which is hosted by a man known as Psychic Pebbles, aka Zach Adel. Man is being generous. Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on here. I'm guessing cartoon character would be a better description. Yeah, I don't know how old he is. I think your last co-host really nailed that he does sound like a mixture of an alien robot cartoon.

You really painted a picture with his words, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Yeah. And it's just fucking accurate. A lot of the show that you review suck so much asked that I've come to think of certain podcasts as the 1% okay show by which I mean, you know, even even if they suck, even if they're totally boring, at least the production values there, they're using real mics. they're not recording in a bathtub, there is some editing going on, and that's what I mean by the 1%.

This guy, I'm not even sure if he makes that cut. This podcast. Well, the reason why we're listening to it is because we listen to Sleepycast, and he was a part of that podcast, and I was fascinated with him. I called him the spaz guy And I want to play a clip

I want to play a clip from the sleepycast show where he really stuck out Listen to him talk about his shit back when he was on sleepycast I was here when I came to mix out Recording this I had to take I was like I have to shit a little bit like what are there and I'd be going to cartoon shit He knocked on the door oh Yeah, yeah, I was like, I had to shit a little bit. I went in there, and I'd be going to a cartoon shit. You get on the door, I shit a little bit. Oh, he's like a coiled up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was disgusting. I actually got grossed out by my own shit

for the first time in like 70 years. That's nasty. Like coiled up cone. Yeah, it's like a little snake like sleeping. Yeah. Instead of a tube. So that psychic pal was talking about his shit. And what's jarring to me when I went and listened to this schmuck's podcast is

he's trying to be an intellectual all of a sudden. It's bizarre. I thought he was gonna talk about it. I noticed that too. So to give our listeners a perspective, it only has five episodes and they came out over the span of two years or something, which I think is fine. That's better than, you know, shitting out bad content every single day or week. But I don't know if it's even good. We made the deal that I wanted us to listen to the first and the last episodes. I listened to the first one. Yeah, with a guy called John Tron.

You listen to the last one with, I don't know who, but I wanted to do that because I wanted to see if there was any improvement over those five episodes. Because usually, you know, you get shit, people tell you, hey, you know, you didn't really give a chance, you can't judge a podcast based on just listening to one episode. Well, I feel like two out of five is fair, right? That's a fair ratio.

40% of all the podcasts. I think that's pretty good. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, absolutely did. And this is weird. So I wasn't gonna give him shit for this, but the audio on the first episode sucks ass. It's terrible.

Did you listen to the first one? I did. I did. I even have a couple of clips from that one that was your homework, but I'll let you start this off. What do you have? Yeah. So the editing on this,

I say it's bad because they didn't use any compressors or limiters. So for anybody who doesn't know much about audio, nomenclature, a compressor or limiters what they use to make quiet things a little louder so people can actually hear them, or to make sure that very loud things aren't sold out that they ear rape you when you're listening in your car. So you don't have to constantly adjust

the volume knob because one person who's talking is too quiet and the other one is too loud. And they didn't do this on their show. So this guy who's, I feel kind of bad for shitting on him about his voice because I guess he has a cleft palate or something. It's called right? He has, I think that's what's going on. Yeah. But he's very quiet. He mumbles a lot. And his co, his guest, John Tron, is a, he's a guy who speaks up,

talks very loudly, enunciates words properly, and then you have the mumbling weirdo. But that's not even what I want to start out with. So play my clip 1, which is their shows intro. questions of the stars gazed back. Why are we here? How are we alone? How will it all end? However, out of all the questions Man has asked over the millennia, there remains one that trumps all others. What if an easily online web animator started a podcast where he shot the ship of guests for an hour or two

while you sat there with your gut hanging out? Well, most of men's questions remain unanswered. I do have an answer for that last one. Right now. Oh, that's... So that's how it starts out. And it makes you think, well, that's kind of good. That's high quality. He hired a voice actor and everything. There's a music going on. They made a whole little skits.

This is nice. You set expectations. You set the bar very high now. So now play my colypti, which is him just mumbling like a retard. Welcome to the Shmok's podcast episode one. This is going to get pulled. This is gets pulled from YouTube and John's career gets ruined in whatever so five minutes. Call the first episode. My first guest here is John your fairy for those who don't know. Yeah. Okay, I have to ask you a question, buddy. What the fuck are you saying? It's just... Wow. I can tell you that the audio level between episode one and episode four are vastly different. So you put your clips at the level that they came in at. I pulled mine up a little bit because they were way too quiet. You're giving me some homework to do now and post, but that's okay. We'll figure it out. Yeah. I thought about that. Now I thought, okay, should I fix this? Should I do what they should

have done? Yeah. But then I thought, well, I want to give our listeners the proper experience here. I want them to see what I heard as a listener of this podcast. This is what you get. You don't have nobody's going to fix a shit for you when you're listening on Spotify. Okay. For the site to tune into the schmuck's podcast. So that sucks. And like I said, I wasn't going to give them shit because I thought, well, it's the first

episode and it looks like he's fixed it later on Yeah, but then I remember this guy's big like he at least used to be one of the biggest animators on YouTube He's got clout. He hangs out with some talented people animators musicians people like his best bodies make music and shit Their voice actors you could not have run this by anybody You can just render it and be three files and then to your body on Skype and ask, like, hey, does this sound fine or should I fix it somehow? How do I do?

He doesn't have time for that. He's trying to put out five podcasts every two years. He doesn't have time to run it by all these people. How can he possibly get it right? That's true. I want to point something out and I want to ask you a question. In our sub-ride, just recently, someone discovered we

trashed h3 and they got in there and they started bitching at us about that and their complaint was we were speeding up the clips and I just heard your gun. Is that sped up? The clip that you're giving us here? I think some are some are not. It's not to make them sound stupider as the person on the subreddit pointed a fucking redditor's man angry angry. I love them. I love them. Listen, some of these clips, if I don't speed them up, they're gonna be two minutes long. So I have, yes, if there is irrelevant silence, I will take out the silence, for example, I will edit the clip for brevity and speed it up slightly depending on what the what the focus of the clip is.

Gotcha. All right. So I want to also zoom in on what you just did. You have this intro that's highly produced, very well done. And I didn't list episode five, because I didn't know that existed until this morning, but I listened episode four. And that was with G-Sauce, with Michael Stevens. And the show starts off with that intro piece

and then they get right into it. There's no introduction. There's, you don't know what's going on. It's a very irrational fear that I'm going to get a stroke, but I feel like of the kind of guy who get a stroke. It's based up nothing, just other than my old gut feeling. Yeah, no, I have that same gut feeling. It's a weird way to start a podcast in my humble opinion. What do I know? You know, starting on the crescendo, but then again, you have a fucking ten minutes Frankenstein intro.

That's true, it's not good. I shouldn't be talking shit. Can he back to Zack's voice? I don't know if he's self-conscious about this, but I was checking out a video where they were taking questions from patrons on Patreon, and someone asked him about his voice, and he flipped out.

Like, why does Zack's voice sound all fucked up? Stop it! I'm not kidding. That is a joke. There's a fucking real line. There it is. All right from pale. How? Take your money. I don't fucking want it. All right. So this is a joke. So he doesn't he doesn't actually address why his voice sounds like that.

There's a real thing going on. But it is bizarre for sure. It is bizarre. I mean, that's obviously a joke. He's a real thing going on, but it is bizarre for sure. It is bizarre. I mean, that's obviously a joke. He's having it up. But that's also when I say it's a joke, it's an awkward way of trying to avoid the question. Yeah, I wouldn't ask you something uncomfortable. You turn it into a joke. You go, wow, that about. Okay. Well, you still didn't answer. Yeah, I don't know. What is going on? I just remembered this rumor that I read at some point on some part of the internet that he has a cleft palate or something, maybe as a congested nost. I don't

know, who gives a shit? He sounds like a congested master. I don't know. His voice like that. Well, he's been stuffed up for the last couple of years. So, look, I think when you do this kind of work, voice matters, right? I have an accent that means I'm never going to be narrating a movie in my life. That's not a gig I'm ever going to be getting from Christopher Nolan or something. On the pro side, it has kind of charming or quaint, whatever you want to call it. This guy's con is he sounds goofy. On the upside, he can voice every cartoon character from now until the end of the universe because it's perfect.

You can be a cartoon character, but you're not gonna be a dignified podcaster with a charming voice, yet he at some point tries, but he sounds like he's speaking through a toilet paper roll all the time. Right, you're not gonna sound like an intellectual. When you sound like you're the third character in Red and Stimpy, it doesn't work that way. And for some reason, this podcast seems to be what he's going for.

These conversations get very deep and intellectual. They're long-winded. They go on for a while. Did you listen to the episode for with Vsauce, you know? No, no. Are you familiar with Vsauce? I know of him. I know he's a science YouTuber with... I mean his content isn't bad. His content's great. He makes videos about science and space and all that sort of stuff, it's nice. So let me dig into this just a little bit because Vsauce comes on and he's talking like a scientist.

He seems to be the authority on all of these crazy concepts that they get into. And then over an hour in, he says this. I'm not a scientist, I'm not even a teacher. I am a entertainer that happens to reveal what we are somewhat certain about about the universe. So this is what I call a pseudo intellectual. This is someone who goes on camera, reads a script,

reads it very well. His videos are well produced, they're great. But now he's taking on this persona, almost like Bill Nye, the science guy, who's an engineer pretending he's a scientist. It's like, you're not a fucking scientist, you're not an authority on this. I can read a wiki PDF page and sound intelligent too. This is him getting in over his head. He's tried to explain how there's rules to our universe and he starts to talk about pie for some reason and you could

tell that he's embarrassing himself and he realizes it. Where is math, by the way? Like where the heck is pie? Pie is an irrational number. The the expression of which is is unending. So how does a particle note a behave according to a constant that doesn't even, its digit expression doesn't end. What the fuck is he talking about right there? Where is math? I don't know dude, I've been looking all day, I can't find it. Yeah, that sounds a little like he's trying to add lip

or just script. He got off script. He got off script a little bit. Can you believe this thing called pie? Yeah, I can it's That's that crazy. What happens when you go out? You know what I talk about this shit all the time. I can improvise Yeah, I'll walk away. I don't actually know math I'll actually understand the concept This is this is great. He starts talking about a book that he's never read

There's a great book I want to read I bring in this up because I haven't read it That's fascinating. Please go on Hey, Kaya, have you ever read? Becoming by Michelle Obama No, I haven't either. Let's talk about it. So Michelle Obama. It's great. It's amazing. It's amazing Why would you bring that up because there's this book? I haven't read but I've been meeting too and it's called this like what? Not only does he sound high his voice. I mean Even the content of their conversation just turns into two college kids smoking weed play clip four

Okay, I don't know what I'm right there. Yeah, yeah, just like just like that man who died and he went oh I keep working with you. Is this a joke? Oh, I hope I hurt my lungs I don't know why I'm right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like just like that man who died and he went, oh, I keep working with you. He's just a joke and you're, oh, oh, my heart, my lungs. Is this death? This life is up to this static. What are you talking about? Stop mumbling. See, again, no, no, the downsides and the weaknesses in your own voice,

of your whole life. If you mumble, speak up, dummy, and because they have no editing on the first episode, he didn't run by any of this past anybody ever, the difference between him talking and John Tron, his guest talking is so jarring that sometimes you get ear fucked, which is why I didn't do any editing on these and when you do Make sure that the discrepancy here still comes across play clip 5 and to everybody listening this right now Fair warning loud shriek incoming

Thanks, Zach. Hey, look I beat it. Look. I'll tell you why Um, this is too sort of a sex act. Hey, look, I beat it. Look, I'll tell you why. But two ways in my mind. Jesus. Whoa. Yes. Oh, look at brushing. We go long way there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, a sex act.

Holy shit. Speaking of terrible audio, there's a point where John trying, I guess he's surrounded by pants, like dirty pants to dead in the sound where he's recording. Yeah. And he starts to get a little sniffle from it. So he gets up and walks around and if he grabs a tissue or something. But he continues to talk off mic,

which is one of my favorite things people do on podcasts. Oh, you got a tissue. Oh, you got a god damn it. I'm gonna add a hotbite or a side effect to the background. Ha ha ha. the background. Ha ha ha ha ha. You ever worry as you're moving around the job, Hitcher, hang on something. You ever wanted you to slip and smash that your brainstem on a counter?

You ever think about that? Yeah. When George Michael died, isn't it funny that his song is called Last Christmas? That fucked me up, that fucked up my Christmas. I don't know what he's talking about there. I had to leave that egg, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? There's nothing to do with,

Last Christmas, there's nothing to do with dying. It's about a chick who cheated on it the next day. Come on, everyone knows that. So, but you said he was trying to deaden his place with jeans, his pants, his pants, or something. That's what he was saying, yeah. Okay, but then at some other points in the show, he talks about how he has his own studio now.

And it's all fancy like, play clip six. All right, he didn't use the studio for this show. That's for sure. You have like a signal. Right, yes I do. It's some people were called to that. And yeah, I can understand why. I actually think I wasn't sure about it at first either,

but I think, and I think actually your fans have even kind of, the who are a little bit skeptical for a kind of cool down state separates you. Yeah, God speak up retard. I know what's going on. It's feasible to make a production in your house that goes beyond certain means like you can see there's lots of messy stuff we do and I couldn't really do it in a place that I owned especially you know neighbors so you can't have a crew in there you can't put lights in there so I mean you know it's not feasible to fill them out of your house nobody does business out of their house on a larger scale so we had to move out so you know a set also it's like all television shows are on sets nobody complains about those I don't know why mine I guess it's just because YouTube is supposed to be more authentic but I mean it's still authentic it's still you do you do you do you know I yeah I wrote a few episodes with you I see how the process goes it's really you do the day yeah so before anybody has a meltdown on Reddit again,

yes, I did speed that up as well. Yeah, obviously long enough as it is. There was almost a whole opposite. But there was, there was about the content. Like he talks about how he has a new studio now, right? So why the fuck are you hanging pants on the walls? The foam doesn't cost that much. But the more important, I really clipped that not because of the pants,

shits, but I actually like that this is he seems to be one of the few YouTubers who gives a shit enough about his content to upgrade his gear or the circumstances of his production. I guess he would call it because usually you have these people who have genuinely subscribers and they still talk into a fucking 80 2020 and $90 micro or blue snowball or something in their bathroom. It's funny. You say that.

It's funny. You say that because John Trans videos are very well producing. They're great. And he's almost apologizing for it. He goes, I know I'm not supposed to be creating great content on YouTube. Sorry, but thought it'd be nice to maybe step it up a little bit.

Don't apologize. It's fine. It all hardens back to, yeah. YouTube sorry, but thought it'd be nice to maybe step it up a little bit It all hard comes back to yeah, I know I'm a youtuber and there's this unspoken rule We all need to not care and be lazy fucking pieces of shit right where he does apologize Yeah, some people you know they don't think it's authentic, but YouTube you know It's I do think it's can still be authentic on YouTube. Dude, don't be authentic then, it's fine. You know who's not authentic Jimmy Kimmel? He's one of, he has the biggest show on the planet still. Right. You don't have to be the indie YouTuber with shit gear and shit setups.

I like it when YouTubers put some effort. Hold on a second, now who's the fucking boomer? Jimmy Kimmel, you just said, holy shit. Okay, so, no, you're the boomerer and I'll turn this around on you right now Okay, Jimmy Kimmel and all the late night TV show Posse they have channels on YouTube. They upload their shit to YouTube Obviously professionally produced compared to all the 10 minute vlogs about people crying about the latest drama Yeah, but who's watching those videos? It's like and boomers like me who can't say up that late I want to talk about I want to talk about,

I want to talk about John Tron takes over the show because Psychic Puppels is episode one, but he's been broadcasting for a long time. He takes over the show and they get derailed often as they're having these conversations. I'm just gonna play a few clips of examples of that You could say that again. You got a little alley. Okay This

And then there's more confusion Anyways, what were you we were talking about something real and then finally this is John John trying to get back on track Okay, okay, let's get back on track here. What were we seeing before all this? What kind of show is this at the guest test to tell the host? What were we talking about? Let's get back on track. What's going on here?

Yeah, I mean, Jon Tron is obviously the more professional one, but he's still set a few times. Jon Tron seems very interested in talking politics towards the middle or the end of that show. And at some point, Zachary psychic pebbles, the actual host, he derails it with talking about, I don't know, somebody shitting or something. And John Trump tries to bring it back.

Like, you know, I'm trying to talk about politics here. Listen to that, I was gonna try to give you a backstory on John Tron and who he is and what he does. Because from what I hear he's been entangled in some drama because he's just said some borderline racist things in the past and he really likes politics. So I figured, hey, you know what, I'm gonna do my homework.

Maybe that'll entertain Carl and I asked around, like where the fuck is the clip of this? Where's the video from being racist and somebody sent me a five-hour Stream of the sky debating somebody and then another two-hour stream of him debating somebody and I thought fuck you Okay, I love Carl, but this isn't worth it Well, Kaya watch a five-hour stream if anyone talks for five hours straight You're gonna see something racist. I mean it's just it's math it's probability at that point of course. And they would talk about five hours straight.

Wait too much. I don't think that's how you solve racism. I think if there's a person with whom you have differences, talk a little less. Yeah actually both of you shut the fuck up go to a bar and just watch a game. I feel like that would be much more conductive to solving your differences instead of talking for five hours. Holy shit, who the fuck listens to this? And then of course he has to come on this show and he has to talk politics with this cartoon character too. And they don't know politics at all.

No, they don't. So play my clip 11, which is John Tron trying to figure out what the fuck America is. I want to point out that I love the way you label your clips. This one's called Nerd Talks Politics. You had another one that was just compressed and I think that you put in things in all caps and you're really pissed off. I like, here we go. There seem to be two kinds, primarily one, the Western democracies like, or the republics, I don't know, you would call them, like whatever we, a democratic republic, what do we have? What do you call this?

Capitalism? All the garkey, John. All the garkey. Well, now a days, I guess it is. I don't know. Oh boy. Holy shit. Oh, shit.

He starts off talking. He starts off talking to such authority. And it's always like, yes, there's really two forms of government which actually, what is America? Like, well, it is a republic. Is it a democracy, a capitalism? A capitalism, that was funny. Yeah, that's true.

Well, I don't know why this is. Is it a capitalism? Oh, shit, man. You are. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, I mean, when he said Western democracies, okay, we can debate the nuances of Republic versus democracy, but who cares?

Right, we understand, moving on. What do you want to say about that? We get it. Yeah, you're a Republic dummy. I've never been on V. You do not know what Jesus fucking Christ. So they're talking about things that They admitted they don't know a shit about so Zach joins in and talking about

Nuclear war no because that's something he knows about 10 so there's two parts of that statement number one if Data falls it's like a code right for video game if they if if they don't fall that I think we'll have your Peanmore, but I also don't think we're gonna have a nuclear war. I don't that's I'm not saying we're gonna have a big nuclear war. I don't think we'll have to do that far. I think the only way a nuclear war can happen today is if we have to get accident or a nuclear terrorism or something or just some sort of weird mishap. But I don't believe secular, for the most part, secular western civilizations would purposely start a nuclear war. I don't believe that. A secular western democracy invented the new key retard. What are you talking about?

Stop talking about things you don't know anything about. So he starts talking about that. I don't know if you caught that at the beginning. He says, if NATO were to fall, it sounds like a video game code, right? Yeah. It couldn't get through one adult sentence without bringing up video games. Could you? It's like, it's like these people

have man-child Tourette's where they just, oh, I haven't talked about Pac-Man in a while. Sounds like a co-edient. I think it I think mr. Garrison would say oh Re-tart alert Re-tart alert class Yeah, it's not a it's not an intellectual conversation that they're having. I don't know why they went down that road Definitely not Okay, let's talk about what do you have all right? so I want to get back to psychic pop-holes as an intellectual because when he's talking to V-Saw, it gets very deep.

And they're talking about the concept of consciousness. And I have to tell you, I pulled this clip because when I heard it, I laughed a little bit. I don't think he meant this as a joke. I-I-I-what is your theory of consciousness? I know you did a video. That's a big question. You don't have to go all the way and do it. But, I know you did a video on it, but that-that-that is something I think about a lot. He thinks about consciousness. Alright, makes sense.

I guess I understand that. Of course you do. Stick to cartoons. Stick to cartoons, man. You're a very good animator. You're not a great writer. I've seen some of his hellbenders in ship, but what are? So this is the Vsauce guy, Michael Stevens. Apparently he's been on Joe Rogan, he does Ted Talks, he is seen as an authority on a lot of different subject matter. And he's talking about a study that he once cited in a TED talk.

And he doesn't even remember what the study figured out. Right. Yeah. I've heard that. I actually talked about a similar study in one of my TED talks, but rather than having glasses that were blacked out, it was a bucket that went over your head. And the apes or whatever it was, orangutans, they still acted like, you have a bucket over your head. And the, the, the, the apes or whatever it was, the rangatangs, uh, they, they still acted like, you have a bucket on your head. Um, uh, well, actually, I don't remember how did this go. Yeah, I think they didn't, yeah, they didn't realize who they should speak to. Again, I think this guy is, is good at what he does, but he's not good at having a conversation and remembering things that he memorized for a TED

talk once. And that goes back to under-stand. He starts talking, looking authority, and then midway through the sentence, he goes, uh, way, uh, uh, fucking idiots. You start to realize very quickly that, oh, this is someone who memorized a bunch of facts once versus this is someone who understands the material that they're discussing. He talks about that he wants to someday write a book and he might put information in it. I don't know how to phrase this. I don't know if I'm going to put this into a future

episode or into like a book that I'd love to write at some point, but he's not sure if he's going to put this in a book that he'd loved to write at some point. Is anyone else listening to the words? He's he's right, but if he does or he doesn't, it's still going to be great Carl, even if he read it or didn't read it. There was a certain point. There was a certain point where he talks about how he he's always reading books and he's underlining things in these books or highlighting the things that he finds interesting. And he says, I didn't clip this, but these books or highlighting the things that he finds interesting. And he says, I didn't clip this, but he says,

there are things that I highlight that are not true, that we've proven are not true. And I worry about highlighting them, because I'm wondering if my kids will go back and look at those books and think that I thought that was true because I highlighted it, and I'm thinking, dude, first off, your kids are gonna grow up to hate you.

So you don't have to worry about that. They're not gonna go back to your books and see what was dead off to. They don't give a shit. Even if they did, could you imagine that's what he's fucking worried about? The people are gonna think he was an idiot because of what he highlighted in a book.

We think you're an idiot because of what you're saying on this podcast. Not because of what you highlighted in a book 30 years ago. There's a certain point here where psychic pebbles start talking about shit. And I just have to ask the question, how high do I have to be to enjoy this conversation? It's easy to think of the past as like a story, like some kind of fairy tale, but it happened. And the people that were the characters in those stories are just like you today. I think I knew that.

I think I knew that the reason why we study history is because it happened and that those are people just like I am. Oh my God, I feel like Vsauce, that guy, and John Trond, could fuck if they just met. They would fall in love with him. John Trond did the same routine. Remember he went, you know, those who don't study history,

they're doomed to read. Oh, I just, that's a pl- Oh, I got a clip on here. It's another self-made history, and this is John Trond talking an episode one. No, no, it's actually funny. This is something many of you have bonded over. Many times, like we talk about, like, you know,

like World War II era history, and I don't know, there's something about history. I've always considered myself somewhat of a history buff, maybe not so much when I was in school, but like when I got older, I just find history interesting because you can find patterns or echoes

to the modern day, and you can sort of sort out like how things have risen and fell. Yeah, you sound like I'm sorry on the way you're talking You can figure out things risen and fell and so deep fucking idiot. I have a theory. Oh, yo The thing just may have happened before history. Yeah, you think I have a theory guy about what's going on right now There's too many goddamn documentaries It used to be had if you want to learn about world war two had to go rent a book or buy a book and then read it, comprehend it, remember what it said? Now you just fucking watch Netflix, you're like,

I'm a historian, I know all about this, you're like, no! Yeah! There's no armies of people out there who think they know everything about every little murder case because there's a biased documentary about it that makes either the cops look bad or the murder look bad. Yeah. Animcy without maybe do your just don't get your opinions from Netflix or a documentary

on YouTube titled We Defeated the Wrong Enemy with the photo of Smiling Hitler. It reminds me of what we did last podcast on the left and these fucktards are talking about World War II as if there's authority on Nazis. You guys just run a wiki page. Come the fuck down about yourselves. That's fucking terrible. And then like midway through the episode, Zachary here, I think it's sim. He doesn't even have the attention span to be able to keep talking about this nonsense. So he whoops out his game boy, play clip 8.

In the words of the third, what were they thinking? Wow. You ever see Game Dude? He is the game dude. He is so rude. He is a game dude. the game dude. He's so rude. He's a good thing. He's a bad attitude. Oh yeah does he say that? So one of them just whoops out a game boy and starts playing Super Mario. That is so pretty. I think it's I think it's Zach because it makes John Tron go wow that's awkward like you're he's thinking wow you're you're doing this in the middle of our interview here. This is kind of weird. That's my guess, but one of them is playing on their Nintendo Switch.

Don't, why? Why, during a podcast seriously? And then they do the, much and even professional podcasters like Joe Rogan keep doing this. Stop talking about things we can't see man Clip 7 and I want to point out again. This is called it's a podcast asshole God is that a real picture by the way?

That's that's an upsetting picture by the way. That's a real that's a real picture It's never been debunked from what I know Pretty fucked up picture It's fucking disgusting. That'll never actually click it. Huh? What's that? Holy shit, I don't remember that part. What is going on there? What are they talking about? I have no idea. Yeah exactly right. What are you talking about? I can't see your screen douche bag What are you? What did you not click on it, at least describe it. How difficult can it be to give a 10 second description of what you're looking at? Fucking hell. I don't understand why people don't realize what the end product is supposed

to be. You are putting on a show that someone's going to listen to while they're commuting or they're jagging. Yes. Or they're shopping. Whatever it is, you have your earbuds in, you're listening to a show. You can't watch videos and laugh at them. That's not a fucking show. This is, first of all, it's not a show too. Even if we could see, I, I, I, I still hit that even when you are able to show something on the screen to something

because then it creates that awkward moments where one of the hosts thinks something is really, really funny. Or, you know, that moment when your friend says, hey, you got to check out this video. So you're sitting next to them having to pretend like what they're showing you is interesting. Right. That's always uncomfortable. The worst is when they created it. Oh, you guys see this new video I made, like, oh, fuck, can I watch it when I get home

and tell you what I'm saying? Jesus Christ. That's the worst feeling in the world. You get the leg. Give me some time to formulate a polite, white lie. I actually shift so that one's on the video, one's on the person, because I know their glance can't be, and try to see

if my fucking reaction is like, fuck, this is so uncomfortable. It's terrible. So you just sort them just play a fucking video game. Okay. And now you love your drops. I love your drops. I like their quaint little throwback to the prehistoric era of all you boomers.

That's fascinating. Please go on. Yes. These guys tried, but they don't have the balls to commit to it. Play clip 13 Thank you so much everyone have a good night. Uh, hey, let's do it live Wait, how did they say it? Wow, Saturday, New

Anyways, what were you? We were talking about something real. What are you doing? Are you playing clip or not? Are you doing the bits? Did you just hit it by accidents? What the fuck is happening here? Commit to it. I have a question. Who the bit that you're gonna do it? Kay, I was under the impression. They put all that shit in and post. Because obviously puts like a music bat in. I think that there's stuff that they put in afterwards.

They talk about a video that they watched one time and this is a clip where they talk about do you remember that video which is even worse than watching a video but I think that he put this the sounding in post take a listen to us do you remember that video when ISIS was like we are going to come blow up time square and they never fucking did it the video was the dude like put a bomb inside his fucking jacket? We cut the him like walkie by a Starbucks. Yeah, and he zipped it up and then he put on his Tony dance glasses and went, Hey, you're from Brooklyn.

Hey, you see what you got? You could have some pepperoni, huh? First off, he goes, remember that video where al-Kyna said they were gonna blow up time Square than they didn't? Ha ha, that was funny. What? What? What's funny about that? If there's no timetable here, the night is young.

I don't know if that's a funny thing. We can't see it, we didn't see it. We didn't see it, we don't know what you're talking about. Well, they talk about shit that is, that you have to know beforehand. A bunch of YouTubers, a bunch of videos they've done years ago, they just rent menace about them. As if you're in on the joke,

listening to the first episode, which I guess is fair because who the fuck else would ever tune into this, who doesn't know Suckik Pebbles, the host. I guess that's the... I mean, we should point out, I think you said it before, there's a lot of listeners in this show.

Even though they've only put out five episodes, every episode has had hundreds of thousands of downloads. People wanna listen to this for some reason, and I'd love to grab a handful of those people and just say, you're wasting your time. This is not an intellectual conversation. You might think it's an intellectual conversation, they might have tricked you into thinking that.

There's like, shit like this. This is V-Sauce. Again, just talking about how worn it he is. And right now I'm in this phase of reading a lot about space and time and dimensions. Boring. He's reading about time. I mean, what the fuck are we talking about?

I was like, pseudo-intellectuals, you'd see on Facebook. Yeah, yes, I study quantum physics for fun, man. You know, it's just, you know, it's a method. It's the people who share the I fucking love science memes. And they think they're so smart. Like, yeah, look at this guys, science. All right, calm down over there, asshole.

You honestly do not understand science at all. Neither do I, I'm not saying I do. This is them talking about, and I have an answer for this, but they have a question that cannot be answered. You ever think about what it'd be like to be one of these animals just to kind of live in their minds for like five minutes? Yes. Just kind of feel through their consciousness? Yes, it's very difficult to do. It is actually a famously difficult philosophical problem. What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to be a cat? What is it like to be a single-celled organism? What is it like to be a single-celled organism? Kai, I have the answer. It's boring as shit.

It's not that difficult to make it hard. I like that he describes it as difficult to. It's implying that if I just try hard enough, I can't be a bad. Yeah, we'll figure it out. If we just get the right equation, we can figure out what it's like to be a bad. It's not impossible enough to just meditate a little while.

Jesus Christ. Oh, I love when psychic pebbles, because he's talking to a guy who thinks he's smart, so psychic pebbles is pretending he's smart too, and he says this. I think I did research one time. I love it. Zach here, he sometimes says some risky stuff. This was on our show. I still to this day. I'm not sure what he meant by this. Maybe you can figure it out. That's clip 14. I am confessing on the official podcast that I made pedophile. I mean and what did it know the pedophile in the state of Virginia?

What the fuck are you taking a shot of contacts? What's going on here? I just figured it would be fun to clip that no one do you got it in for this guy? Holy shit, I gotta go back and listen to psychic bubbles on the official podcast I gotta go back and listen to psychic bubbles on the official podcast. Not as funny as it. Of course, that's out of context. Obviously. What was? How long?

Yeah, explaining the joke for the retards on Reddit. Yes, we know it's out of context. You know, you clipped that and you didn't really mean that. You're making people sound stupid when they actually were saying something smart. Right. It's called WATP. It's what we do here. This is the end of the show.

Shit. The end of the show is Vsauce. And Psychy Pebbles is wrapping things up. And he couldn't be getting things more wrong. Thanks for listening, everybody. I hope you enjoyed. I hope you had a good laugh. I hope you learned something.

I hope you were interested. I hope you walked away with a big pulsating brain. You learned something. you learned something crazy. Hopefully you learned that I suck check out the big brain on Motherfucker He was he felt way too good about himself on that show as they were going into these deep, deep discussions. The kind that you have when you do mushrooms with your friend when you're 16 is you're like, holy shit, you know, far away a star is like, yes, I do.

Fuck. Yeah. It's a storm room. Yeah. A storm room philosophizing. It's, look, I don't mind that. Yeah. If that's what I want to do, have a weird hangout with your friends and do the, oh, you know, well, bra, like, you ever think about stores colliding like, what does that feel like if you were the store?

But if you're gonna do that, at least brush up beforehand. You can't go on and start talking about democracies and then the next breath say USA is a capitalism. What is the US is a republic? Is it a capitalism? I can't remember. I haven't read a book in 25 years. What is it? And then the guy Vsau said something,

this is early on in the show, and he said he's concerned when he's driving his car sometimes, it's too much power for him to have, and he says something I know. And he says something that pisses me off to no end. That's when he get panicky. I feel the same way when I'm driving, sometimes, especially if there's like no traffic

on the freeway, I start realizing, oh my gosh, I'm going way faster than I feel comfortable going. I'm still under the speed limit almost all the time, but He just said he's under the speed limit when there's no traffic out there. I hate this fucking guy This is the kind of person that pissed me off. Yeah, it's so the speed of 55 I'm going 48, but still it's just way too fast Holy shit Kaya, I know that you guys have the famously have the auto bond out there. Do you drive?

Do you drive on the? Do you drive on the? Please, all the shit people can talk about Germany and Europe and it being a police state at this point. Yes. Yes. When you're in the auto bond, you can drive as fucking fast as you want.

It's a social faux pas if you don't. You don't even use the right blame. Germany is a, it's a car country man. A German man invented the car. A German woman was the first person to Germany is a, it's a car country man. A German man invented the car. A German woman was the first person to ever drive a car. And listening to this guy go, oh, it's just too fast. Bro, it's like getting nervous. I get nervous with there's no traffic.

I feel like I'm driving too fast. I would fucking love an Autobahn. Something about me that I've never said before. I drive a Mercedes-Benz. I am a big fan of the German cars. And this pedometer only goes in the first quadrant anytime I'm driving anywhere in America. It can go so much further and I'm just not allowed to do that. And it sucks. So annoying. Just teasing you with a little little.

It's teasing me. I'm like, why is it going to 200? I'm never going to need that. Fuck. Yeah. And then you have this guy over there sitting like, Oh, I'm almost at 60 miles per hour. Slow down.

It's so fucking annoying. That's why shit takes so long in America too. Like when I was over there, we had to drive everywhere because you have no public transportation. Everything is far apart. You can just leave your house. You're gonna get smothered by the sun. But then you're stuck on the highway.

And as a German, when you're used to the German traffic laws, I'm looking at them like, why are you driving so slow? There's literally nobody ahead of us. Why are you under 60? They made the literally nobody ahead of us. Why are you? Under 60 they made the speed limit on your top speed. They set the speed limits in the 50s When cars were terrible these cars were built like shit and they haven't changed it It doesn't make any sense to me my car You know 150 miles per hour and I wouldn't even feel it.

It'd be fine. Yeah, again, the first woman who ever drove a car, I think this is correct. I'm sure somebody will call me out and correct it on Reddit again once more. She first tried driving like a hundred kilometers or something and it took her three days. Maybe those laws need a change.

Maybe it's okay if we go a little faster. All right, let's talk about there is some production now by episode four. So episode one, no production, sounds like crap. Episode four, now we have production. For some reason, he has this little commercial that comes in, I guess it's supposed to be funny. It comes in very abruptly, I don't know where,

and there's zero contacts, it makes no sense with the flow of the show. If we can't develop technology like that, we're much more stuck where we are. Hey, what's up, my jiggas? This is Little Mikey here from Little Mikey's Jigs. Sorry about that jiggas pup, by the way, that was a bit of a mistake, but I don't know how to use the audio editing software, so I think that's stuck there now but let's just move on. Little Mikey's jigs would I'm all about I come to your house and I do a little bit of a jig. What do you

think about that? That's what I do a bit of a dance right in your living room. Your kids are going to go absolutely fucking wild when they watch me, my arms, my legs, they're going to be flailing and, I think in this current climate with North Korea and ISIS, I think we just need a little bit of joy and entertainment in the world. So that's what I'm all about. This dude is fucking corny. What is he talking about? I think there's supposed to be jokes. I was a point of it. I didn't make it. I dropped. No, no, I didn't. Why interject that into the conversation? It didn't make any sense. And- I'm- I'm- I'm a backdrop. No, no, I mean, why interject that into the conversation? It didn't make- it didn't make any sense.

And he's like, hey, I'm little Mikey, and I'll dance around, and he goes, in this climate of North Korea and ISIS. Again, I don't think politics is a good thing for this guy to get into. It doesn't make any sense to me. So, yeah, it's not a good thing to get into after you've just watched two and a half minutes of CNN maybe, the daily tick on the Taiwan. You read it?

I think, oh, shit, ISIS and North Korea are in the news. I guess those are the biggest issues on the planet right now. No, man, they're like the same. Taiwan also has news about Angelina Jolie's marriage. Maybe those things are the most important things right now. God, this is so dumb. I, uh, I realized this morning because it's not on their regular feed. If you go to Apple Podcast, it only has the four shows.

So I recognize this morning on YouTube that in February of this year, they put out episode five and episode five is an interview with one of the kids from Stranger Things and that kid's brother. I started listening to it a little bit. It was so boring and this seems to be a thing on all podcasts and official podcasts included. It revolves around having a guest and an interview. I think there's too many interviews with guests right now.

I think it's too much. Yeah, fucking hate it too. It's got to be, I mean, I know Joe Rogan's the biggest show and that's all that is, but it's so make or break based on the guest. If you have a shitty guest, everybody wants to be Joe Rogan now. That's a problem. That is the problem. They look at Joe Rogan and they recognize that the fame comes from the,

they don't recognize where it really comes from. It's not because he has on famous people. He's not, Joe Rogan is not a good podcaster because he had on Elon Musk. Joe Rogan is good at it. That's why this show became so big in the first place. You're not going to be him. Your show isn't going to be that good. Just if you have a big name on and start talking to them. And I like to awkward. I like stranger things. I enjoy that show. I don't care to listen to any of the actors and what their opinions are on anything. It's like, Pebbles is not a good interviewer. Oh, how did you get into being in movies? Oh, I really liked movies growing up.

Okay. Yeah, no shit. You know, Chris Rock studied comedy, do you know that? Like, yes, I did. Fuck. What are we talking about? Why is this interesting to me? There's too many celebrities at this point.

There's too many celebrities. And if there were like a Dozen celebrities and they were on a show that I'd be interested, but there's thousands of celebrities It's it's like a fucking it's like the new Marvel movie. It's like everyone's a superhero like well No one's a superhero no one's a celebrity anymore. Who gives a shit? We're all just doing this thing and I don't care about every single fucking person who's on a show or host a show. I don't know.

It's too much fun. It's really a clicks, man. It's not, obviously, the host doesn't really want to talk to that person. They don't genuinely give a shit it's about to know. This name, it's gonna draw clicks on YouTube if I put it on the title, so we're gonna have the sky on, even if he's bland and boring and I have nothing to ask him. I've been listening to... do you know Anthony Jesselneck is? I only know Anthony Jesselneck by name I've never listened to his stand up. He has a new Netflix special out which is pretty funny but I've

been listening to his podcast which is the Jesselneck Rosenthal Vanity Project. And on the episode this past week, he said something that I thought was... Wait, wait, wait, is that the actual name of the show? Yeah, the Jesselneck Rosenthal Vanity Project is what it's called. How the fuck does anybody find that? How do you even not misspell one of those names?

It's not easy to find. But when you do find, he has some jumps on there. And I wanted to play this because I want to echo this sentiment. We're not grateful to our listeners. You're welcome. We're giving this to you for free. And you should be nothing but beyond grateful. That's how I feel as well.

All right, let's move on. We have an important segment that we need to get to here. Kaya. It's either this one. Oh the man, oh the man! Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum! Bum! Or it's this one. Opie radio! Opie radio podcast! Ah, quick, quick, what do you think? What's the better stinger for the segment?

Combine them. I mean, why the fuck not? The only 10 minute intro is an outro. So yeah, seriously, we've minutes. Maybe we'll have another 17 minutes. People talk about how much they like WATP in the middle. Yeah, there you go. That makes sense. So I actually tried listening to the latest episode of his bullshit. Oh, good. You listen to the episode 108. So I actually tried listening to the latest episode of his bullshit. Oh good, you listen to the episode 108, La Cubana in the kitchen? Yes, I did. First off, what you do, you have some, you know, you actually like your listeners. So you think, well, not everybody enjoys voicemails, so I'm going to put it at the end after credits after the outro.

Yeah. Hopefully it does the opposite. Put it right in front. So if you don't give a shit about voicemails, you have to look at your phone like I got that monkey and try to scrub past that point. You have to keep hitting that button that lets you skip 15 seconds at a time or whatever. You have to keep hitting it and hitting it and hitting it. Can I play that for you? Because I have the clip where how this show starts off is Joey Celvia saying he's been slacking. Oh shit.

This one. Hey, Joey Celvia, it's been a while since we've taken a few calls. I've slacked a little bit. I apologize. He goes, oh, you know what? We haven't played voicemails in a while. Yeah, no shit, because you don't get voicemails. You have to have listeners who care about the show in order to have voicemails.

Yeah, we got tons of them. I just been just been slacking yeah yeah that that's it and then I do have an example of a voice smell I don't want to step on anything you do okay I'll let you do your thing first you're the guest okay he obviously pays people to call it his friends yeah you know how voice mail sound at this point I do too, because our podcast used your number for voicemails. I have a bunch of the play later. Yes. Yeah. We started using the voicemail for the who's right podcast now.

I heard about that. Yeah, it's great. Doug, Doug, Doug, tell me about that. It's funny. Yeah. So you know how the usual voicemail sounds. It's somebody who's sometimes they're excited because they get to talk to somebody they really like

and enjoy, sometimes they really bored. But it's usually, hey, I just want it to call in. Yeah, I don't know. I guess that's it. I like you. Bye. And then they hang up. It's never so simple.

It's what a normal person sounds like. Right. It's never a script. That's what a normal person sounds like. Right. It's never a scripted, like gets to the point, makes a point, has high energy. It's never that. You wish you'd have someone call in and just for 22 seconds, rattle through a thing, and you're like, sweet, never.

Yes. But then it would sound fake, like it's a news anchor calling in or something. Which is what? OPs voicemail sound like so play clip 15 Many people will compliment you on how great the podcast is being included and they're absolutely right It is great But what they may leave out is how much better it's becoming as you rack up the episode Chef Carreese you're killing it. Joey Salvia. You're killing it. Thank you

Little foot mic staff boat. You're killing it Joey Salvia. You're killing it. Thank you little foot Mike Sappho. You're killing it It's been a real joy to listen to and I'm looking forward to many more Oh, Thank you Jay you had to throw in that oh, Tastic tag thing though. Fuck I forgot about the ending first of all fuck you As if you and your whole posse you don't talk like idiots OP Roo Okay, you and me it's all Tastic at the ends come on. I was scrubbing through the episode and the first thing I heard was text a RU. I got a text a RU carol here so

we can go to the movie theater. Oh dude, you're fucking squashing my clothes. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll stick to the voicemail here. No, that's not true. That's such a fake fucking person. It sounds like a some guy reading an infomercial. Do you like really good podcast? Well, then you can turn into OP radio, which I really like and I'm a real person. It sounds like a some guy reading an infomercial. Do you like really good podcast? Well, then you can turn into OP radio, which I really like and I'm a real person. Kaya, that is such a brilliant observation on your part. And I'm at a point now where I'm not even picking up on these things. I might be overthinking it. That is so scripted. Hey, so and so, you're killing it. So and so. You're killing it, even as tempo,

the way he was saying that was so professionally done, that you're right, that was scripted, it was recorded in a better studio than OP records his own show in. That was not a voicemail, you're right. It's a brilliant observation. Yeah, I have a clip or two about his quality too, but I was also gonna say why even if it was real

Why play voicemails of people just praising you? That's all it is that man because that's you can't riff on it If if it's anything else if it's somebody calling you out saying something fun your stupid You can riff on it to come turn it into a joke if you just play a clip a voicemail somebody going I love you man. everything you do is so awesome. That's it. That's all you have to do there. All you can do is a one word answer. It's thanks. Kaya, this is the reason why they play voicemails. What they're trying to do is manipulate as many people as possible.

What OP is doing on his show right now, it's putting out terrible content and telling you it's good. Joey tells you it's good. Opie tells you it's good. The voicemail callers who are paid and scripted tell you it's good. And if you hear this enough time, you're like, I like this show. It's good. It's not good. You can convince a percentage of the population by telling them something over and over again. That's obviously been proven and that's what their whole game plan is You're right these voice mails are not necessary for the show they add zero content and There's no entertainment value there. They put it up front. It's the very first thing you hear It's three minutes of people going open you're killing it love the show based on what I would love for him to say

One thing that he, love the show. Based on what? I would love for him to say one thing that he enjoys about the show. Hey, that episode where you went to Jim Brewer's house and he talked about nothing at his porch for fucking three hours, great stuff. One thing, can you point out one example of why you like the show? No one ever has.

Yeah, it's the audio equivalent of faking five star reviews on your own show. Oh, yeah, we totally love this. Holy shit. Holy shit. You're just throwing the algorithm now. Holy shit. Kaya, this is brilliant.

I am going to start calling my own voicemail with different voices. And just, I'm going to manipulate the shit out of people. It's going to, I'm going to say things like, hey girl, you know your voicemail segment. It's the best segment of the show. Everyone loves it. Keep doing the voicemail segment. You should do that earlier in the show before the teaser. Hey, and never gonna think like, oh, that guy thinks that must be true. You're on to something, my friend. I never thought of it this way. Holy shit. All right. So what, what did I accidentally step on your toes on here? All right. Well, yeah,, yeah, let's play the Texteroo clip because Holy shit with OP.

Carl man, we got to do a podcast from Lackabona today in the kitchen and Carl's like, I'll meet you at 11 and then I get the Texteroo that... Because OP loves hearing his voice on my podcast. He has to say things like To Rue doesn't make any kind of sense. It's not cute or funny. It doesn't there's nothing to that I mean you're not a native English speaker when you hear something like that That's confused the fuck out of you like why would someone say that because it confuses me? Well, the confuse I know what he does is this ironic. I'm gonna be cutesy witty, but

You don't you then don't get to say oh you said optastic. That's kind of that's pro. Don't do that right when you Whenever you play clips from that fucking show all I can here is noise Noise in the back. It's so loud All I can here is noise. Noise in the back. It's so loud, the noise that he records with a shitty little recorder and then doesn't bother editing out, which is a lie.

Yeah. Still talking about how you edit this shit. Yeah. Maybe like you put music on it at the beginning. You have a, I don't know, you put a little music bed on your intro and that's what you mean by editing, I think. And well, he doesn't do it. This guy Joey Sel I think. And- Well, he doesn't do it. This guy, Joey Selvia does all that.

Opie doesn't do any of this shit. He just sends in his raw conversation from his Zoom recorder and the guy in Texas who works for Westwood one has to turn that into a fucking show this palatable which he's failed miserably at. It hasn't happened yet, but Opie's not doing that at all. And I can play you do you think

Do you think that maybe OP actually gives them instructions not to make it sound better? Yes, because he wants to have some integrity like no I wanted to sound like we're in a cafe man the pact like we're in a bar. Yeah, I will you no This would be my guess my guess is OP has a conversation with Mike Bischetti and Mike Bischetti's mother for 37 and a half minutes. The conversation goes nowhere, there's dogs barking in the background.

Joey Celvia gets this audio and shoots him a note and says, OP, I think I'm gonna scrap the first 37 minutes of this episode. It's not really very good. And OP says, fuck you, that's the show. I'm the talent

Put it in there. I guarantee this is this is conversation has happened because there's no Exactly I think he goes fuck you. That's the show. It's authentic with the North. Yeah, that's how we sound he goes Yeah, we're doing a different type of show. It's this Yeah, I know you get your window open I don't know fucking Autobot that's you Yeah, I know you get your window open. You have the fucking Autobot next to you. Yeah, can you do this? I can, yeah. Is it too loud?

No, it's fine. Close that. No, no, no. Okay, it's authentic. It's relevant to the next clip, Sammon. I can't be a hypocrite. Yeah, I know. As I talk, walking away from the mic,

Jesus, we're hitting all the fucking things. Perfect setup. So what I wanted to play to you is how easy it can be made better. Yeah. Okay so I pulled a clip from it sounds like they're in a car wash or something. They're just talking in the car with their windows open. I don't know what the fuck is going on here. Play clip 16. So he says, alright, Alex didn't get back to me because you're all set Thursday, 9 o'clock, chef's table, right? So, the noise at the, it's at the same level as the voices in that clip.

They're at the same level. It's crazy. So that's their editing. That's how they released this shit show that it's how they recorded. It's impossible to fix that perfectly in audio. Once you record with noise, there's no way back. It's like, it's just like how you can't unshoot a person. You can only plug the wound, stitch it up, take the bullet out, that's it. But it's still going to leave a scar. So, but then it's my attempt. Kay, I think the saying is you can't put the

shit back in the horse. Garbage in, garbage out. It's gonna be like shit, it's gonna sound like shit. But here's a modest, simple two minute attempt at knee removing that noise, which is clip 17. So he says, all right, Alex didn't get back to me, because you're all set Thursday, 9 o'clock, chef's table, right? Doc. So.

Yeah. Still sounds like shit. Still sounds like shit. Still sounds like shit. Don't have static in your ear the whole time. Yes, so what you've done there, and I've done this many a times, not so much for my podcast, but what I record music is you have a specific frequency

that's fucking with the frequencies you wanna hear, and you can just eliminate that entire frequency. Just take it out of the mess. It does fuck with the voices. Every time the voice hits that frequency, it gets diminished, so it gets a little bit wonky. But Joey talks about this specifically. He comes in and you probably didn't get this far

in the show because this is 50 minutes in. Fuck no. Okay, Joey, what he does is in post-production, he'll interrupt them talking and have a little drop that he comes in with. In this particular instance, he does it because Carl Ruiz is about to give out a ton of spoilers on the new Marvel movie. So Joey comes in to say, hey, by the way, if you want to watch this movie, you haven't,

yeah, you might want to fast forward it five minutes, but he can't help himself. He has to explain how difficult his job is because OP sends him the worst audio ever and is explaining how we tried to do what you just did. I cried a little bit. You did. Yeah. All right, Joey Salvia here, I wasn't going to jump in on this podcast because the guys were doing just fine by themselves in a noisy kitchen. In fact, if I used any more noise reduction in this podcast, you wouldn't be able to hear Gregor Carl. That noisy. This is how pissed off Joey is. He tried to do what you did, and he thought it sounded too shitty, so the guy right, I gotta put most of this back in like, fuck, I can't make this sound good. That's a dilemma of an editor, right? Somebody sends you something so shitty

and then just tells you to somehow make it work. And you know, it is subpar, but then it showed to the client and they go, wow, that's good enough, that's perfect. It's authentic. I wanna hear the spoons click it, clacking in the back. You fucking idiot.

They love to pretend that podcast noises are okay. Hey, we do this show where there's a lot of noises in the background. Neat, no one else does, because it sucks. It's not fun to listen to. Hey, this is... Stop trying to be authentic, man. It's not that good of a trait to have

to be true to the recording. It's not authentic. The problem is, is you're hanging out with your buddy while he's trying to open a restaurant. So this episode, they're in the kitchen of this restaurant that hasn't even opened yet, but they're still trying to work out the menu. And at one point, the dishwasher or something starts running and it just gets allowed to shit. But I love this clip because it starts with Carl telling, uh, Oh, we to shut up. I think I would love to be on a bus because you know, I like to

shut up only a couple of months. Everyone loves it. If it was just like, if we're in my agro falls, I'm putting a new hot water here. I hear that. You hear that? I think I'm putting a new hot water here. I'll say you sure. This is not a place to podcast, dummy. We have a studio. See, that's what I'm saying though. He, I think he consciously purposefully seeks out noisy This is not a place to podcast, dummy. We have a studio. See, that's what I'm saying, though. I think he consciously purposefully seeks out noisy places because he thinks this adds an air of legitimacy.

Like, yeah, bro, we don't edit this. This is the legit. This is real life right here. We're just walking on the street because I don't hear that much noise just living my life. Even when I go grocery shopping, it's way more quiet than that. I know.

It doesn't make me ridiculous. And that's why you're not famous, OP, you dumbass. The actual good shows they know that having noise or background shit being street and urban doesn't add anything. That's why even when Joe Rogan smacks his hand on the table, you can't hear it. Right.

Because the audio editing is good enough where you only hear their voices and it sounds good and intimate. You idiot. The dishwasher doesn't add anything. I'm gonna start a new podcast. It's gonna be called Carleon and the Airplane. And I'm just gonna get on airplanes.

I don't even have to go anywhere. I'm just flying to New York and back. I'm just gonna get on airplanes and just talking to a recorder that's, I don't know, go anywhere. I'm just flying to New York and back. I'm just gonna get on airplanes and just talking to a recorder that's, I don't know, three or four seats in front of me and just yell to the recorder and just see what happens. I think people will like that. Yeah, recorder through the intercom.

I'm just fucking playing. It's all travel. It's just, so today's podcast, we're talking about, it's not like wrist loss. Oh yeah, I hope we don't have a crash aru. A crash aru, put on your seat belt aru, he's everybody. I hope he will think that would be cool

because that's all, you know, real or whatever, whatever fucked up version of reality he has in his head that he thinks he's just being so much cooler than the rest of us not noise reducing. You're talking to a proper mic. You know what Scott Wylon is? Scott Wylon was the singer of Stone Table Pilots. He used to do this thing on stage where he'd grab a megaphone and then sing into the microphone through the megaphone, which is super obnoxious. through the megaphone, which is super obnoxious. I'm gonna start a podcast where I'm on an airplane

with a megaphone and the recording device might be the cockpit. You don't know, it's gonna be somewhere. Maybe the overhead and I'm just gonna be screaming through a megaphone. All right, let's talk about these voicemails that come through and we talk about it all the time. The listeners to this show,

if there are any, are lonely people with, are lonely people with no friends, because they, they're listening to the voices and going, Oh, I'm hanging out with Vic Henley and Shradd Small too. I'm, I'm there with the crew. And this proves it. This guy calls in from Cape Cod. Last year, Opie in the gang went to Cape Cod. And this guy's hoping they're going to come back again this year. And then at the end of this call, he asked them to hit him up. You gotta think about me, people. These are the things that you have to do, all right? I'll have more tips as the summer goes on. But anyways, peace of luck. Potsquads. And

if anybody wants to grab a beer, a place from pool. If you do visit Cape Cod, hit me up on Twitter, man. I look forward to that. Play the buddies. It's all about you at Creamy Butters on Twitter. Follow him, he's a great guy. All right, there's a couple, now I'm seeing this through a whole new lens because when I first heard that and it's a longer call,

he's talking about, hey guys, we come to Cape Cat, here's what's going on. Don't forget to hit me up on Twitter, we could place a pool or something, I'm like, well, how fucking lonely are you? You're telling OP to tweet you, so you can play fucking pool. It's so pathetic.

But now that you brought up your understanding of how this voicemailing works, I think you're right that these are all pre-scripted not even voicemails for the most part. They probably put a filter on it to make a sound like they're talking through a phone. This shit is pretty questionable. This just recorded in a studio. This guy didn't stutter, he stutter in the stammers less than me for Christ's sake.

And everyone on the podcast is stuttering and stammering all the time. This guy calls in, he's got a succinct point, talks right through it. Hey guys, this is what's going on in the kick, God. But, whoa, hit me up. This is my name on Twitter. It never happens. I've listened to a thousand voicemails. It's never happened.

He doesn't pass out in the middle of it like the people that the sloppy drunks have called into your show. Yeah, he's not fucking Rumpus or butthole-weeb. That's for sure. Let's, this is funny. So, Opie and Carl are such good friends now that they're finishing each other's jingles This corn bowl exactly

What the fuck was that Exactly What the fuck was that? Yeah, there are a few beers deep there, I think I feel uncomfortable that I'm part of this conversation like this is not I shouldn't be hearing this. This is you guys just just talking to each other This is Carl talking about Mother's Day. He calls his mom and his mom's kind of a grump She doesn't have a positive attitude about life. So he's talking about his call with her. He talks about the very first thing his mom says, which is not what he wanted to get to,

but OP loses his mind as if this is the funniest thing he's ever heard. I'm like, mom, happy Mother's Day. This is the first, not higher. Yeah. Oh, I don't know if it's that funny that his mom said oh, when he said happy Mother's Day. Still so kids mom issues. Oh yeah, for sure they both do This is Opie talking about sending his mom a gift for Mother's Day Carl calls him out Listen to how high Opie's voice gets. He's very ashamed of himself

This is how you know how it's changed to himself he is I decided this year to To send my mom flowers from pro flowers dot com, which is true, right? With some chocolates because you don't have that from full flowers of course to send my mom flowers from Pro Flowers.com, which is true. With some chocolates, because you can help them from Pro Flowers. Of course. But why is that bad? They got a great product. They got a great product.

I'm very sick of that. Well, that's kind of called being a shit at two. You know, it's an advertising, but it has to kind of sink the ship. Like, do you actually like this product, the douchebag that you're sharing right now? Yeah. You have to awkwardly joke about it and avoid it,

avoid the question. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean? It's the best shit. Responsible pro flows too, by the way. Profiles is a great product. I mean, I don't know what you mean, got it? It's a great product. You know what, the problem is Carl, by the way. Proflow was just a great product. I mean, I don't know what you're being caught. It's a great product. I don't know what the problem is.

Carl, it's amazing. It's a great product. Yeah, what is a product? They get shipped, they look great. All right, there's a part. It's a perfect plant. I know, there's a part. I don't care.

There's a part in this show. Listen, proflowers.com is amazing. It's as great as deepdiscount.com, which is even more amazing. Even I have to talk after this show. So they're talking to Robert, who is known as Littlefoot. He's part of the show. He was the guy who drove them to Rochester a few months ago. I documented they came and they went on Brother Weas' show and OP is bringing up the fact that

Robert used to be a trucker Robert's a terrible driver You think it's because of the few? Yeah, he can't really reach the pedals So I'm gonna get... He's putting a little monkey on a taxi His arm stretched out and he flies off the mat I'm thinking so mad because I guess he was a trucker or something.

So it was a trucker. Did he say that on the way to Rochester? He was like a trucker for a little while. That explains a lot of things. But you think he doesn't cut me as a trucker? Was he like the gentleman trucker? I don't know. But where did he truck the trucker?

The one where we were making fun of his driving skills when we were going to Rochester to see Brother Ways. He was very insulted. And he either said on the podcast or off the podcast that he was a trucker for a little while. I'm almost positive. All right. So OP says, this is what this was a setup clip. OP says Robert, the guy who works with us who we see all the time, used to be a trucker. He told us that. I don't know if it was on our show or not, but he told us that when we all went to Rochester, and you could tell that OPK cares deeply

about the people in his life. He's a genuine interest about who they are and what makes them tick. He's not a narcissist. You know, narcissists only care about themselves and don't really listen to what people must say. He knows the people around him. And a few minutes later, curls in mid sentence, Opie calls Robert

to confirm this and cuts Karl off. So we get to the four seasons and I check in now I'm with the food now. So you know they take care of the base and then I take care of the pet Karl. Robert? Yes. Me and Karl are podcasting at Lacabana in the kitchen? Yes. Me and Carl are podcasting at La Cabana in the kitchen. Yes, and I need to ask you, were you ever a trucker? I knew it. Carl wins. Because when we were making fun of your driving on the way to Rochester, I thought you were insulted because you told me you were a trucker.

the way to Rochester. I thought you were insulted because you told me you were a trucker. No, I was never a trucker. All right. Fucking OP. So he doesn't know the people around him at all. He doesn't remember conversations that he has with people because he's only thinking about himself. And then this idiot, Carl didn't even put up a stink about it. He goes, really, he's a trucker. I don't think so. That doesn't sound right. OP decides to call He goes, really, he's a trucker, I don't think so. That doesn't sound right. Open his sights and call the guy. Well, Carl's in mid sentence about something. And, you know, just to prove that he's right, like, say, Rob, you're a trucker, right?

He's like, no, what are you talking about? Oh, okay. Again, if it weren't so fucking noisy, if there wasn't a dishwasher, if they weren't inside a dishwasher at the time, you could have cut that all out and made it a little more serious. I mean, there was... There was Palsy. Look, I don't know any of these people. So I don't know what the ratio of famous to non-famous in that room between these people. But O.P obviously thinks everybody's

just as entourage. Yes. So it doesn't matter if he just cuts somebody off in the middle of it to tell somebody else to be his little minion and tell him that he was right. Well, yeah, the fucking noise too. This podcast could be fixed and made accurate, I guess, in titling it. If you're just called it, the NSA spying on people because that's what it sounds like. It sounds like the NSA just hacked your phone and is listening in your pocket. That's what every fucking scene of that show feels like. And if that's the theme they went with, you could forgive it,

because that would be good production, but this is stupid. You're a millionaire, buy your friends a fucking lapel mic. Well, what's up? Let's talk about what's really going on. And you can say that Opie's going for an authentic sound, and he wants the ambient noise.

Maybe that's true, he's done a lot of the shows from bars. What's really going on is Opie needs Carl Ruiz in order to be interesting. Carl Ruiz has a life, he's opening a restaurant. He doesn't have time to go and sit with Opie for two hours and talk about nonsense. So the compromise is Opie, I'll do your stupid fucking podcast. But you got to come to me. I'm in my restaurant. I'm in the kitchen. We're trying to get this shit set up and get ready for our grand opening in a week. So as long as you don't bother me too much and you keep that fucking zoom recorder out of my face, we can have a conversation. That's what's going on here. This is,

okay. OP is terrible at adries. I brought that up before. But also, he has the worst sponsors on his show. I've never heard another podcast that does PSAs. I'm familiar in Germany with a PSA is. Yeah, public service announcements like they don't fuck without a condom. Very good. Yes. PSAs, when I used to work at e-bombs world, were a terrible thing because as soon as a PSA ran on the page, it means we're not getting paid for it.

It's what runs when there's no paid placement to take its spot. So you default to a PSA. Meanwhile, yeah, meanwhile, this is what OP's main advertiser is. OP radio. I'm not going very far. I'm gonna rush.

It's too uncomfortable. Sometimes I just forget. Don't kid yourself. There's no such thing as a good excuse for not buckling up. If you've used any of these excuses or any others, you're putting yourself at risk of injury or death.

In 2017, more than 10,000 people were unbuckled when they were killed in crashes. First off, Opie really has the ability to make the copy on the page come to life with his extremely natural delivery. He de- does not ought to fucking read copy, but secondly, at least 10,000, 10,000 people. It was your first time reading it stupid. Secondly, I mean, I'm doing a cold read when it's not even live in the show that was put it in post, you can do it better. Secondly, Kaya, we are

an ocean apart. So I'm asking you this because I don't know if this is true. In America, in the United States where I live, you can't get into a car that allows you to leave your seatbelt unbuckled. It'll annoy the fuck out of you. It beeps at you. It gets gradually louder and more obnoxious. There's no such thing as not putting your seatbelt. It's got nothing to do with where you're at.

That's what the car companies themselves do because otherwise they open themselves up to lawsuits if the car, that's why I thought. What'll happen is you get in a car and it doesn't annoy you with some beeping noise to buckle your seats belts and you get in a car crash and die then some fat fucker in America soothes Mercedes-Benz

because I don't know, you were neglectful. That's why they do it. So how the fuck? Cars now do it. So how the fucking 2019, are we still putting on commercials to tell people to click it or tick it? This stupid like where your seatbelt message, I have to wear my seatbelt because I'm trying to listen to music. I don't want to hear my car fucking yelling at me as I drive down the road. Of course I'm wearing my seatbelt. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, it's surprising, there's any sponsors at all. I don't think that's a real sponsor. I mean, maybe he's getting paid for it. I can't imagine. I mean, if he wasn't, why would he do it?

I don't think he has a choice. He works for Westwood. Well, who knows? I'm not gonna get into it. I have one more clip to play from OP Show, and I saved the best for last. OP has been known from the ONA universe. His nickname is Tits.

And OP and Anthony are known as Tits and Zits. Because OP is a man with breasts and Anthony is a man with terrible skin. And so Tits and Zits was a great nickname for the two of them. Opie in this next clip admits that he has boobs. And I remember my son walking walking and he was like fairly Probably two to an half walks right up to the tub, right? Right and starts poking my chest and goes daddy you have boobies His two-year-old son

Told him he had boobies now. I do want to say that I don't know that his son's that insightful He was probably just reading the sub-run it, but it's still funny to me that his two-year-old son caught him off for having boobs because it is well known that something that Opie is going on. Well, I'm surprised he has a good sense of humor about it then. Oh, did you, I don't know if you've... I don't know if you've... I don't know if you've picked up on Carl's reaction, but Carl knows things that you can't say around OP

It's this whole thing where you have to walk on Greg shells around him and when he said that Carl's oh No, and normally there's a big fake belly laugh with anything that OP says but that one knew He's like oh, why would you bring that up? But that's not everyone's talking about you Stressed out as fucking collar to a point where his tits are showing. All right, that's enough about OP. I want to get into a segment that is new to the show

and the Jinkles department has helped us out with. Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. This is a segment where we play a cringe of the week. We have a lot of fans who listen to other podcasts and I encourage them to send us in Equip from a podcast that you're like what the fuck is going on here? Why would this be out of show and thankfully We had a friend of ours on Twitter

Randy Rustin send us a cringe of the week. This is a podcast called High and Mighty. And it's episode 207 called Talk Oh Bell Five. So these are stoners, High and Mighty. 207. Yeah, episode 207. These are stoners who in this episode are eating fast food and explaining it. Yeah.

Here is a clip of a bunch of assholes sitting around and eating Taco Bell. Okay. The chips are fun and spicy. You guys gonna do a sauceless bite? Yeah, I gotta do one. Okay. These chips are fun.

That's yummy. I'm coming sure if you're going to be a good guy. That's yummy. I was coming. Mm-hmm. That's yummy. I would make this supreme.

I would add sour cream for future, and then it would be fucking money. These chips are really good. I want to know. I would do all like nachos bell grande with these chips. Oh, hell yeah. I'm sure that exists, right? It's got to. Kaya Kaya. The fuck is it? Is that a 80 year old woman or a 20 year old black lady? That woman I looked around like what the fuck with this voice? That woman has been on television shows and done voice over work.

She has a wacky, I mean, her and psychic publishes get together. And yeah, that's what I was about to say They sound like cartoon cartoon couple. They are cartoon. They are a cartoon couple Which means they would never have sex with each other because they're both grotesque human beings, but Their voices are hilarious, so that's the important thing So kaya apparently there's shows where assholes are eating Taco Bell. And that was over an hour long. I didn't listen to it. Over an hour long, eating Taco Bell and talking about it.

How was that a dig? This is my problem with hot stuff. I guess they get along with OP2. Right? If it just is an hour of them going, oh, you're big. I really like nachos. I'm kidding. Well, listen to this. I was so big, I really like nachos. Pfft. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and they seem to think that they're putting on a show, like they're entertaining people with that shit.

I don't wanna sit in a Taco Bell and watch other people eat it, let alone talk about it on a show. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know if there's any studies or if anybody ever thought about taking a look at the demographics of many podcasts, but there has to be a big chunk that are just

into voyeurism, where they like eavesdropping on people. Because this just feels like you're listening to somebody, you have a dinner with their friends, you're not invited, you don't know them, but for some reason you find it entertaining, or hot, or fun. Well, I think it gets back into that thing we're talking about before. The internet has brought us all closer together.

Kai, the fact that you and I are having a conversation right now would have never happened 25 years ago, but at the same time, I think it's isolated a lot of people and they don't have any friends and they listen to podcasts because now they're really hanging out with their friends. There might be people who go out and buy Taco Bell bring it home and then listen to this podcast and eat along with them Like oh, I'm having a cheesy Gordita crutch, too Oh, yeah, I'm part of the show. I don't know. I don't know what this is for. I don't know these fucking people my friends are not socially awkward We can go out and have a conversation at a good

time. But these people exist. They exist and yeah, you're right. I mean, the internet doesn't make everything so readily. The internet makes a synthetic version of everything readily available so people don't seek out the real version. You can fake, you can find a fake friend online. You can just put on an MP3 clip of people talking and pretend they're friends. You can just go on Pornhub and watch people fucking and you can pretend that you're really having sex or something.

Oh, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what it's called. It's not wrong with that, but yeah, right. But once that starts becoming all you do, and you don't start seeking out real things, if you're content with listening to a bunch of people

gobbling up French fries in a Wendy's or wherever they are, and you don't actually go out, get hobbies and meet new people to hang out with them in real life, you're gonna get a problem, man. You're gonna turn into an insult. Jacking off all day, sure, that's okay when you're 16. At some point, you need gonna get a problem, man, you're gonna turn into an insult. Jacking off all day, sure, that's okay when you're 16, at some point you need to get a girlfriend and meet some real people in real life. It's funny, I think it actually works the other way around.

You start with having a girlfriend and meeting people, and then as you get older it turns to do just jacking off all day. Oh, mine, yeah. Because of the... I've definitely had days where I canceled dates and went... just jacking off all day. Oh, my, yeah. Because of the- Definitely had days where I canceled dates and went off. You know, I just want to stay in today. The older you get, the more it's about just jacking off all day.

Okay, I want to address something with you because I had somebody reach out to me and tell me that- and I- let me first couch this conversation and say that I appreciate the fact you brought on a soundboard. You have the Jingle department who wrote a jingle for you that you play on the show. I mean, I've documented that. I'm very excited about that. You're finally learning how to podcast, but I just heard that you're signing off with Sleep Well every pony on the official podcast.

Is this true? It was a one time joke. Yes. In motherfucker. That's fine. I really like that when you do it. It was a one time joke. I'm not going to start saying it every fucking episode.

See, I don't have the luxury you have to make references to shit like my little pony. Yeah. Or the fan furry fandom. If I overdo it, we will actually get brony's tuning in. That's a problem. You only have a bunch of we will actually get brony's tuning in. That's a problem. You only have a bunch of, you have a bunch of boosters tuning into your show.

Who know this is just a joke. If I overdo it, they'll get into it. That's so funny. I don't know, Kai is really in the middle of the party, so I am too now. So yeah, that's good. I love it. You know, young people have a very short attention span,

so every few episodes you have to praise the same things and condemn the same things. So you can somehow keep the same audience that you actually like instead of now having lunatic start tuning into you. But yeah, that was obviously a joke. Am I ripping you off? I don't think so. I think it's called learning, Carl.

I don't think you get to make a podcast about shitting on other podcasts and telling them how they could improve. And then when one of them's tastes starts taking little tiny baby steps towards improvement to call them out for copying you. Well, this is why I have a soundboard. Sock it up. This is why I love you, Kay. I love the fact that we ripped on your show and now you come on and co-host Same with Doug from who's right. We ripped him out. He comes on the show on co-host Dick Masterson's never heard our review of this show. Pirates like give a shit, but comes off the show at co-host so that's cool

I love the fact that that you're learning and we're all learning together I think I'm going in the opposite direction. I started trying to do a professional show and now it's just turning into us getting drunk and making noises of the background. It's not good. Oh, well, yeah, I'm sorry about that. No, it's not so good. I should mention, we're on Discord right now and there's a lot of people, we don't normally

do this, but there's a lot of people hanging out and talking shit about us as we do to show to that. Right, okay, so before you do the teaser and I yeah and play voice mail let me give a quick little tale about what a dinosaur you are Carl. Oh yes, please. Last time we did this we streamed this too. In my Discord server we were in the life voice chat where there's plenty of people tuning in, there's like two or three dozen people here right now. And you forgot to log out of the voice chat, call what the fuck is wrong with you?

Oh no, what does that mean? Did you guys spy on everything I was doing at the risk? You don't get to say that. Look, you're not that old. Call, you know how email works, right? I've used email before. Yes, so you know that if you go to a public library or something and you log onto a public computer,

you know that once you're done, you can't just get up and walk away. You know, as you have to log out, right? Because otherwise anybody can just see what you have on your accounts that you're logged in on. You can just eat Carl. That makes sense, yeah. It's the same concept with voice chatting.

So when you left last time, I noticed hours later, you're still on a voice chat. And this server has 900-something members. Anybody could join and listen in on your mic that is in your basement, which I don't know what to use it for, but whatever you do, people could listen in on. So I had to kick you out of the server to make you leave. So people couldn't spy on you. I'm a fucking idiot. Could you imagine what you'd hear going on with Jen from the Jingles department and whatever other chaos, you know, probably boomer guy comes over?

It's a whole thing. I don't want anyone to know about Thank you for doing that for using Jen as the first example is kind of lending credence to the Right now that she's your wife those are the rumors that go around Yeah, they are Well, I was gonna say I think if you want to get the show bigger You could definitely try streaming it live. Well, based on YouTube on Twitch, based on what we've done today, I'd say it's a really bad idea. I'm going to cut most of this out post.

Oh, I know, but you don't know how low people's expectations are, Carl. You can stream it live and then still release an edited version later, but you would still make a bunch of fucking money on stream donations live. True. And then still release an edited version later, but you would still make a bunch of fucking money on stream donations. All right, Kai. I know you have integrity. I know that. No, I don't.

I don't have integrity. incompatible. That's not true. That's not true. I'm ready. I'm ready to do whatever it takes. What I was going to say is, can we have a quick conversation after the show, because there's a couple of things I want to talk

to you about. And that idea is one of them So what's have it? Let's have a private combo after this is done We have gotten to the point in our show that everyone's favorite part We don't get to it all the time lately, but I'm happy to say that today we have We have the T-Series. This is the part of the show. We play a clip from the show that we'll be reviewing on next week's W-A-T-P. I don't even know if I'm in the host next week because I've been reading the discord.

People want Kaya to take the show over, which could potentially have him. I'm going gonna call you out for that one too. I don't care if you take this out but you after we were done, after we wrapped up the last recording. Yeah. I told you if you ever do the schmucks I call dibs. I know. And you did this whole bit you took out a piece of paper you were like yeah I'm writing this down Kaya. I told you. I'm gonna call you if you ever do the schmucks. And then you get some weirdo pedophile to do a show with you and I hear you teasing the schmucks podcast with him. So I go online on Twitter. I have to message you on Twitter like a dweeb going like what the fuck bro. I thought we were doing that together.

I thought that was our thing. I'm so sorry. I fucked up big time. Someone else wrote in with the schmucks. I'm like oh, I've seen this before I'm this must be an important show. It's not hard. I see so many fucking suggestions come through It's not hard to get me discombobulated to the point where I didn't know why I was doing it or what I was doing And then assume you sent me that all like fuck we did talk about this so my apologies Like fuck! We did talk about this, so my apologies.

Oh, that's okay. That is the first time ever, alright, tease the show. We come out the next week, I'm like, yeah, that one we tease last week, fuck it, we're not doing that, we're gonna do this in a second. And you know what, did you bro, your buddy there decided that he had his own idea and then it turned into us talking about fucking animation,

I'm like, fuck! I should have just gone with Shmoops. No, I'm glad we did the show. Alright, so here's a clip from the show that we'll be reviewing on next week's episode. I'm trying to get comfortable and it's so awkward. I'm gonna try this chair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. Do whatever you need to do. Super heavy-ass chair. Ah, there we go. I need some dead lifts. Yeah, because I felt like I was turning

in this awkward talk show way, where you have to hold your hands in a certain way. Wonderful. I wonder if everyone's felt like that. Maybe not, I don't know. So we met a few years ago through saying. A lot. Time ago, yeah.

And you were an interesting person. And then randomly, I would hear you on podcasts. I would hear you talking. I think I heard you with Jay Moore maybe. Oh yeah, yeah. And I was like, I was like, wow, like, this is a show by... Isn't it Bird Crusher?

Bird Crusher, you got it, this is Birdcast. Okay. I had a feeling you would know, this is a big show. This came over as a suggestion from most recently this guy Max who wrote us a couple of times. John Pate also suggested that I think we've gotten this coming over a few times, but I want to read to you what Max wrote to us to say. Bert Christchurch podcast is about 50% listenable, but the rest of the time Bert asked the question of the gas and then proceeds to interrupt the answer was something all about Bert

And then there's Bert's high pitched laugh talking, which is enough to make paint peel So this episode that we're gonna listen to is with Jordan Harbinger and this is Harbinger and this is for this episode 340 and it's a long one. It's over three hours long Well, that's fun. I know. I know. I feel bad for whoever's guest hosting next week. Croge. Yeah, that too. By the way, it is the long podcast. The reason some of our clips sound sped up, guys, is because we listen on double speed or at 1.5 at least. Yeah, I don't always remember to set it back to normal when I clip it. It does sound rough.

I'll be honest with you. I love doing your show. I know, I know it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, especially when you do it every week. And I'll tell you, like I mentioned, I was traveling to New Orleans this week. So on my flights, I was listening to schmucks and OP and just taking notes as I'm listening to it. And we had the worst turbulence flying in New York.

I'm not a scared flyer, I'm not afraid or anything like that. I know the statistics behind it. But it's not fun when your gut is in your throat. And we're just having this terrible turbulence. I'm feeling nauseous and I'm listening to fucking OP in my ear buds. And I realize, what am I doing to myself? I'm torturing myself for no fucking reason.

Anyway, so Bert Kreyscher, he's a big podcaster and has a lot of big celebrities or big comedians anyway on his show. And we'll be listening to that next week. Kaya, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show again. You've been awesome as usual. The official podcast is where you can find Kaya every week. If you go stop it, if you go to,

if you're a Patreon subscriber like I am to the official podcast, you will also get bonus episodes. So, you will, but your money is better invested in Carl's PayPal. And keep the scounts.com. Kaia, these.com? Whatever happened to you, franchising by the way. You told me that you got who are these.com,

so you can branch out into Netflix, movies. Yeah, well, I'm still in negotiations with HBO. It's going slowly. Kai is the hardest person to promote. Any other person I have, I know, and it's frustrating. Any other person, hey, what do you want to plug? Even Crosier pretends he's on the subreddit, but you sit there, fuck the official podcast.

I don't care. I mean, Kay, you guys put on a great show every week, and people should check it out. We appreciate it. We appreciate all the love that you give us and the voice mailers that you give us which will be hearing in a second. But first, please join us again next week because it might be the episode we find out once and for all, who are these podcasts? Sleep well every pony.

Starting in the must-vis of morning radio. That's about to do. Please go off. What the fuck? Great show. Good job, everybody. of morning radio. That's about to then please go off. What? What? Great show. Good job everybody. Great job everybody. Good job everybody. Who gives a shit and who gives a fuck? You're not Carrie's man! Fuck you!

What is this garbage? How did they have a piecat? This is bullshit! This dude is fucking corn. You. Fucking things suck. You know, who are these? Podcasts. I don't know. I don't get it. Makes no sense.

That's gross. Kaya. I like that little addition at the end. That's fun. Yeah, I popped that in real time the end. That's fun. Yeah, I popped that in. Yeah. I popped that in real time as they say. I went to take a piss while you're playing your audiobook outro.

Let's get into the voicemail segment real quick. We got some new voicemails from people. We'll try to run through these very quickly. I know nobody likes this segment. Here is the guy. Here is the guy who called any hates Digi bro because of his name. And he's on the fence with Justin Brown, the co-host that we had on last week. Hey Carol, really.

Check back this week in the... No, he's on that, you know, say's there. The host just in there is pretty good. You know, there's a comedian and he seems pretty funny. And the thing is that he missed a little on the whole of the challenging Louis Strait Goldman. The Louis Strait Goldman is a funny guy. He's just not a good, a good hope. He's a great guest.

And also, I didn't like his criticism of Hitler either. That was uncalled for. But keep up the good work, Carl. You know, the two-in-a-roll, but I'm expecting a slight drop off with Kaya. Oh, well, I'm borderline on his name. It's still right on that fence. Well, thank you later. Give me a call again. I think this guy's doing a normal doubted impression. I'm not mistaken. He's doing a psychic pebbles impression with this. Oh, maybe. Unintelligible mumbling.

There's a lot of mumbling out there. So he didn't like Digi Bro because of the name. Like, Jen from the Jingle's department. Thanks, Justin's all right. Not sure about Kai. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Mumbling there's a lot of mumbling out there. So he didn't like did you, bro, because of the name likes Jen from the Jingo's department Thanks, Justin's all right not sure about kaya kaya. This is your real name, right? You didn't make this up. This isn't like your internet name. Unfortunately, yes, if I could go back

I would use the pseudonym. I did the fuck I made a mistake going online and using my real name to do shit I'm gonna be fake it is Yeah, I don't know what the fuck. What would be your internet name? Let's say that you had a time machine or you could send yourself a note when you were 12. What would be your internet name? I think it would be a very mundane German name because I can't fake a German accent and at this point, I just don't want anybody to know anything.

Even when you say that you drive a Mercedes Benz. Yes. At the back of my mind I'm thinking, why the fuck would he ever reveal that? Fuck people, fuck online people. They don't get to know anything about me anymore. That's a good point. If I could give you a suggestion for what your internet name should be, it should be Ancient Aliens guy. That would be an amazing, I'm not named for you.

Not even the actual guy's name, just Ancient Aliens guy. Because then you'd go on to someone's show and they'd be like, holy shit, it really is the Ancient Aliens guy. It's awesome. Okay, boomer. That's too long for today. You didn't think you were going to go, you didn't think you were going to go a whole episode

without me coming out your voice, did you? Yeah, that's fine. But we went 10 minutes without you being called a boomer. So I guess we're even. Now we're even. This is this next voicemailer called in. I think on Sunday, then he called back on Monday because he wasn't happy with his voicemail on Sunday.

So you hear that he calls back the next day and still refers to himself as a first time caller, which is funny. Hey Carl, I'm taking a mose in on my call. It made my last time. I've been old drunk. But hey, a long time But the suggestion for a podcast, the Dodd Show podcast, is that the terrible thing, boys that hit the guy you ran that Twitter thing that presents to be Dodd, that was funny for the first three or four tweets that you read, and then you realized that he just hated right-wing conservatives, and that was the fun of every single show. So there you go Carl that show go ahead give it a listen It is really bad buddy

And also I want to give a shout out to my mom Hi mom and My calling number five Carl did I win and my call number five? Jesus, I like the radio references on there as those cute You set me up with a rambling about random Twitter accounts. Did you like that too? No, when he was talking about the God show, I didn't have time to edit these. These are just in their natural habitat, these voicemails. And it's to your point earlier, and probably the reason why I hit me the way that it did is because I was just getting the voicemails loaded in. And the fact that you said, listen to these voicemails, they're not even real voicemails,

you can tell them, you're right. I've never had a voicemail come through the subtle like that. It's always more where the guy's nervous and then they says, oh shit, I didn't mean to say that. Anyway, well, hey, Carl, call me back. Bye. It's always this awkward thing. They're never prepared to do it.

So it's human. It's human, it's what happens. I will tell you, I talked to Jim Norton last night and I feel like a fool. That's just what I was talking about. Well, I want to get a divorce male. Yeah, right. I really like you.

I have a show if you want to come on it. Yeah, I'll call back. It was open. It was open. Yeah. All right. This, uh, this next guy has a really good question that I do need to address. Hey, Carl, you need to answer the question that is on everybody's mind. Where is the flight whistle? Everyone on the subreddit has this begging for it to return. Did you give it to Goodwill? Is it in the back of your closet? The fans need to know. So the slide whistle has been brought up a few times and I want to answer that question with one word. The slide whistle is back baby! It's back! Yes. All right back. Yes.

All right, good call. We got it about time. We got to get that back in the mix. This is a fan of the official podcast who I could tell is very nervous to be talking directly to you, Kaya. Did you set up a voicemail for you guys yet? I did and it was very tedious

because Google Voice only works in America. So you have to, as you know, to be able to verify your Google account, you already have to have a US number. I didn't know that. So I had to tell my friends to buy a SIM card for me that I could use because all my co-hosts are very lazy and technologically inept that I don't trust them not to fuck it up. It's very tedious. I did set because all my co-hosts are very lazy and technologically inept that I don't trust them not to fuck it up. It's very tedious. I did set it up. It took me a whole day. I'm pretty sure I messed up my own Google accounts, but we ended up not using it.

Living it. Because we figured, hey, it could be funnier if every week we just use another show's voice line. It's funny. I like that. I think it's a way better angle to take. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I have to say that living. So fuck you, Doug. Yeah.

Fuck you, Doug. Living anywhere other than the United States seems like a huge pain in the ass. That is. Unless you're driving in your car, you know. That's a good point. Unless you're on the Autobahn. Here is a, my battery's running out.

We're going to move quick. here is a fan of the official podcast he was very nervous you know what the fuck is up Carl oh wait that's cool damn it uh so what's up girl that home uh wanna see uh thank you for you know she's on kaya and the official boys because you know I like the official podcast when it came out but I do like it how to inform so just being for you know people talking for a fucking hour so i like that kaya's uh...

keeping it together and uh... uh... you know that bloomer philla well uh... you know he's got a point about uh, Charlie. He is a, uh, tiny boy, uh, soy boy though. Charlie, uh, I, if you know, Kaya, you put this on the, uh, official podcast, uh, by the way, hi everybody else. Uh, Charlie, something such a cranky pussy later. I could send you that file if you need it. Kaya. That's like I'll just clip this when it comes to that tomorrow. Okay. Sounds good. I liked that collar and I liked that he had a lot to say about both of our shows, but

holy shit, he's out of nervous. Yeah. See, that's what people sound like when... There's like a spectrum online, right? I'm commenting on things. Yeah. When I say spectrum, it's very easy to sit behind an screen and be anonymous and just talk shit on Reddit,

like a little baby versus... On the other end of this spectrum you have... Like an adult, you tell something to somebody face to face in real life. I'm not talking about starting a fight here. I'm talking about being frank, looking them in the eye. And this is somewhere in between where people, you don't have the anonymity of texting somebody, but you also know that they're now going to hear your voice and how you speak. So you're much more nervous. It's much more difficult than just sending somebody a tweet, whether it's good or not.

But I appreciate that. I do too. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yes, thank you for calling. And here's another OP fan. And I would call this person a typical OP fan, but also a fan from Jennifer the Jingle's department.

So I appreciate that. Well, hoping up the right number. Oh, you have this for the official podcast. I'm sure there's been like 10 million of these already. What I don't even remember what the podcast name is. Just receiving this, but Carl, Kevin, whatever. Yeah, they said that to leave the death to that.

So I know where you live, and I'm gonna come and blast your brains out with a 12 gauge. Jenna Jacksonwood. The ladies who sings the things we like corner song, you got a nice voice from a fan. And you all are cool. I like your podcast. So that's it. Um, okay. Bye. Well, that's a official podcast fan if I've ever heard on. Yeah, that's that's hitting the stereotype at the end right there of a voicemail call. Or that's that's that sounded like a very half half-hearted attempt at doing a death threat, which I've been trying to encourage people to do.

I've heard that. Yes. As you know, Doug attempted suicide at some point, but he pushed it out. So I was telling people, call in, tell him to go through with it. It's funny. That's okay. And Doug, the next day, messages me on Twitter says, and all your friends are calling and telling me not to kill myself.

Oh. Your fans are too small. Yeah, you go, oh, but it's too nice. It will be nice if we had some mean fans. I'll get on it. It'll be funny if I start leaving in boys' mouths. Hey, it's Carl from WTP. Go fucking clear stuff you asshole. By the way, are Karl from WTP. Go fucking kill yourself, you asshole.

By the way, are you free August 3rd? I want to get you up. All right, this is another official podcast, man, and he has a specific request for you, Kaya. Hey, random podcast I've never heard of before. This is the message for the official boys. I just wanted to say to you guys for making great content and keeping a low woman's security guard that works overnight and

detained hours passed by. Without even knowing the other thing it wasn't here guys show. And Kaya, I feel like I need to hear this. Make the fucking website and stuff. Who's God damn lazy. Alright, next voice, talk to you later. Kaya, I made the guys in the wrong. I thought the domain two years ago and I never got around to actually finishing the website or making it. You could just make a splash page. It doesn't have to be a whole thing. That's what cripples people for websites.

I work in a company that builds websites for clients and what cripples them is it has to be perfect. No, it doesn't have to be perfect. Just fucking launch it. Who cares? We can add out. I know it doesn't have to be perfect. No, it doesn't be perfect. Just fucking launch it. Who cares? We can add on. I know it doesn't have to be perfect. It just I don't feel like you take in the half hour to lock into the surf runes uploading HTML files. Yeah, I'll get

on it random color uploading HTML files. You heard a square space. Hey, and also if you visit square space.com and use WATP 15. Oh, yeah, all right. And fly some flowers. squarespace.com and use W ATP 15. Oh, yeah. All right. Some flowers. That's like that. I don't want to. I don't want 30 gigabytes of trackers cookies and advertising on my site that makes the web page take three minutes to load.

All right. Shit. This is this is a guy who's talking to you, guy. Hey, girl. I'm calling again. Um, it turns out to my last call. Um, I was a bit irrational, but it's too sweet there. My name is Alba the way. I'm calling you name because Falk Kaya.

I know this is one of the Falk Kaya official podcast. This is W-A-T-D. W-A-T-P. W-A-T-D. And Falk Kaya. Send him to fucking answer my DMs, fucker. All right. See ya.

All right. OK. All right. So this guy says, fuck you, Kaya. Fuck you, fuck you. And answer my DMs. What's the front? Look, the repair.

I get you. But we get a lot of DMs. I am sad. I try to read them all. We can't answer all of them every day. This is a great voicemail. This is almost like an OP style voicemail. This is somebody thanking the official podcast for telling them about who are these podcasts. So I'm playing this to thank you, Kai, for all the promotion you've done for us recently.

Hi, this is one of the official Minecraft boys, Chikmin, for the Affirmative Podcast hotline. But all jokes aside, I just want to say thank you to the official podcast because I've never heard about this show before until they put it on their show and I just you know I Should do enjoy you guys a show like the who's podcast show the who's podcast show, you know I just want to say thank you to Charlie Kaya Andrew and Jackson

because I Put on their podcast and your podcast and the last podcast on the left while I work. And I really enjoy you guys. And if this makes them their podcast, hey, hello, if it doesn't, it all happens. You guys have a good one and, uh, you know, so a good day, good day or night. That's sweet. Yeah. I like like that everybody followed my instruction to not call into your show sober. I appreciate it. Everybody sounds drunk and high and weirded out. This is true.

And I'm only playing a fraction of the voicemails that we received. I can't stress that enough, Kaya. When I'm grabbing voicemails for the show, I have to listen to you an hour of nonsense. And then full of views, I think, represent what people are trying to say to us. So yeah, thank you so much, Kaya, for making me waste my time with this. You're welcome. There's a guy named Bob from a podcast called Metal and Mortgage is and his sex machine robot has been calling in the last few weeks, I've been playing those clips.

Bob is at this point now just putting on full on skits on our voicemail. This is an example of someone who has their shit together with their leave of voicemail. This is not, this is definitely scripted. It's probably pre-recorded. It's probably edited. This is how you do it. It's Bob from Metal & Mortgage. I'm calling to you.

Excuse me, Bob? Iris, not now, please. I'm sorry to bother you, Bob. Ida, Iris, please. Sorry about that. I wanted to apologize for Iris, my sex robot. I know she's been leaving the voicemails the last couple of weeks. She's a rescue. The wife and I got her from this local massage place. They got raided for human trafficking.

We had a professionally claimed, you know, it's all good. Anyway, I updated her for her more recently and made a few tweaks to some of her control modules, so it shouldn't be an issue from here on out. I just wanted to call and apologize for that. Say thanks for your time and love the show, my friend. Keep putting it out. Keep giving it to him. And I think you were a little gentle on coral gruees. Anyway, call me back. All right. Well, thanks to Bob. I didn't realize that was your sex robot. I thought I was like as fun or something. I was very confused. Stop teasing him. Stop teasing him by playing his voicemail. Just ask him to come on already. No, I don't know anything about his show. I'm being very gracious and playing playing his voicemails at the two hour and 12 minute mark of

W-A-T-P. But you know, everyone's here, you get. So nice. All right, last voice, where I want to play, and I have a specific comment about this person. Hey, I'm driving to work right now. I'm gonna just shoot my pants and it's about a minute out of work. Thanks.

All right, this guy's driving to work. He just shit his pants. He still got an hour to go. Here's my advice, turn around and go home. You're gonna drive to work with shit in your pants? I don't like people shitting at work. I specifically don't like people who have shit in their pants at work. That's even worse. Yeah, I don't know.

You gave, on the last show, you gave Christina Pertsut, Sut, Nick, whatever her name is, the wife on the, who your mom sells podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Christina, you give her shit for showering after taking a shit, which is what I do. But I'm not sure if what you meant is, does she wipe and then shower still, or does she only shower? No, you misunderstood my point.

I think Justin did too when he was on. It wasn't that I give a shit about what her bathroom ritual is. I don't, I also shower after I shit. I don't care about that. What I was concerned about was the fact that anyone would care about her bathroom routine. And the fact that she had to tell us that, as if that, she called it wipe gate.

She said, oh, remember wipe gate when I explained that I go right in the shower after she's shitting, who could possibly get her back? Yeah, I feel bad, okay. Yeah, I don't have an opinion one way or the other. And if you have a bidet, good on you, because I'm still using toilet paper like a schmuck. See how I just brought a full circle.

I know about bidet, man. I've tried It just feels like somebody's pissing on your asshole Oh my god, I'm getting a full-on boner right now Kaya, thank you again for coming out. Thank you ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha