Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep226 - Pawley MF20

Episode Date: October 4, 2020

It's the first week of our Jocktober celebration! The former host of the Maxwell Show, Benjamin Bornstein, just started doing a podcast. Wacky voices, teasers, bits, catch phrases... this show has everything but listeners. And punt. The great Chad Zumock joins us with some serious hatred for his former radio rival. He also has something to say about Opie and Chrissie Mayr. Let's just say, Chad isn't worried about making friends. Stick around after the closing song for more Stuttering John drunkenness and Patrick Michael's new show! Also, we have a new review girl. MyBookie - https://bit.ly/MB_WATP Double your deposit with promo code: watp Support WATP: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode two six Everyone pretend podcasting is boring. Are you a boner guy? Cuz Cuz a row cuz a row slap a runie W A W-A-T-P. Hello, rubber nicks and cuzzle roofs. Welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts, the only show that was goofing on Sutterers way before Trump. I'm your host, Carl, with me this week. Here to help us get Jack Topper started the right way comedian, this jockey host of sit down with

Zumaq podcast and most importantly, friend to Sam Tripoli, it's Chad Zumaq. What's happening, Chad? It's jockey. I was, I always, I always said I'm a radio personality. I hate this. I never wanted to be a radio guy. When I sat down for my first interview for a radio gig, they're like, what's your radio name gonna be? I'm like Chad Zumaq, my given name, sorry. It should have been Z-Man, Z-Man in the morning, a couple of nights ya. I do that as a joke because it was a high school joke because everyone had nicknames. I'm like, I'm gonna call myself the Z-Man and there was a russer named Tom Zink who was an NWA WCW.

I go, okay, that's my new nickname, but it's a joke. I hate it. I think it's corny, so that's why I call myself seen that. All right, well, Jay, we're excited to have you on the show. We're going to get started in a segment. First, I wonder if I'm able to go to who are these.com to get our email address, voicemail number, link to our subreddit, link to the discord server,

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then shit all over. So the comment section. This is week one of no Victor review girl And so the new era begins we have a special surprise of who has been selected as our new review girl coming up after the outro But first we'll be reviewing a podcast called Paulie M. F. 20. This is a suggestion that came in from Jed We have both listed the show separately. We have not discussed it with each other beforehand. Well, let's get into it. This is a show hosted by Paulie, AKA Maxwell, AKA Benjamin Borstein. And this guy was a radio personality out of Cleveland.

He had a show there for five years before getting fired. Another show that he doesn't talk about for a few months. And then he went to Chicago for a couple of years, and now he's just a fat guy who helps out drug addicts. I, before we get into it, I know that you have a lot to say, Chad, we're excited to have you on the show. I just want to play a clip that sums up the show for me,

so people get a sense of what we're talking about here. This guy was out of radio for six years, just recently decided to start up a podcast. And I love when ex-radio guys are doing podcasts because they don't understand the medium at all. He does a lot of teasing what's coming up. And it's a lot of nonsense. A lot of like just trying to take up time. But here's an example of the the shock jock sensibilities of this guy. This is so morning zoo-ask How ought to share except my wife bought this But this camera Ear picker thing was like a Bluetooth camera on it

So you can like scope your own ear and I immediately started to think about the other Scope your own ear and I immediately started to think about the other orrify I could take a look at him and if you can if you can look in your ear you can You can look in your nose there. You can look in your mouth there. Yeah, probably Look in that thing there Hello There anybody in there. I didn't wait for but you not charismatic why I can look at any orifice whoa where's he gonna go with this we'll don't go there oh guys get crazy that's made for your ear buddy whoa you pulled some clips

too is there anything that you want to play to get our conversation started Chad I want to get I want to first of, Chad? I want to get, I want to, first of all, is, is name, I'm, I'm, by the way, this is the most exposure he'll ever have. Yes. This is, this is the last, in last advertisement, I'm going to never have. Paulie, you'll never have more exposure. I'm giving you a gift.

And if anybody, if anybody in radio knows what I'm talking about, we're talking about the old Maxwell show. He went by Maxwell for, that's where he made his name. He decided to change his name to Pauli, which was his nickname, like you said, his real name is Benjamin Bornstein. He refuses to use that name for some reason. He decided to launch his podcast, and this guy has made my life hell since I was an open young comic, and I was trying to, we'll talk about the story, how it became into fruition, but I legitimately hate this dude.

I hate his guts. I think he's a horrible human being, so I'm getting nothing but pleasure from this. I want to point something out. So typically on our show, we blast podcasts, but there's no hatred there. It's a roast we're having fun. You know, with the exception of Stuttering John,

we don't hate anybody, but I'm very excited that we have a co-host on who really has an axe to grind with this guy. It should make for a lot of fun today. I want him to get COVID-19 and have complications. Perfect. All right. Well, is there a clip that you want to play that you pointed out? Listen, okay, let's give a let's set up the story. Who this dude is? Why he's doing it? I sent you pointed out. Listen, okay, let's give a, let's set up the story, who this dude is, why he's doing it. I sent you some notes. So let's talk about Pauli, slash matchwell,

slash slater, slash Benjamin Bornstein. All right, let's do that. You have those notes in front of you, like who he is and how this thing got going. Oh, you, yeah, go ahead and tell the story. You sent me a long email about it. I'll let you tell the tale. This podcast is a passion project, everybody. This is some guy coming on a podcast.

I actually put some depth and some listening and some learning into this. Like, I really went in depth trying to figure out how to do this podcast. It maxed well slash Paulie's podcast we're about to do was a radio show that was on in Cleveland, Ohio. It was 100.7 WMMS, a very legendary station. And he was the afternoon drive show. And he was on for a long time. And then over time, he did well because there was nothing on.

It was before podcasts, before the internet. And from there, he got some popularity. And he became an asshole because these old radio school jocks, these fucking nerds, these losers. At the time, they always wanted to be in radio. They were hacks, they were loser people, and they got this exposure and they became narcissists. This guy is the epitome of a hack radio narcissist.

And with that, he thought he had powered, he would shit on people. So this guy would shit on me as a young comic. And the irony and the love of this, the whole situation is because I took his time slot in the afternoon, when he got fired, because no one wanted to deal with him anymore. He got fired. He got, he got shit on and he got ran out of town when his show was building very well. And I took his time slot. And he could hit you to shit on me with my head. the show was billing very well. Right, took his time slot. Well, that's the point to make, Chad,

is that the show was doing very, very well. It was still number one in a lot of demos at the time that he was fired. That's how difficult he was to deal with. That's how much of a prima dana he was. And the fact that he went after you because you took that time slot is ridiculous.

Someone had to take that time slot. It was his own fault that he got fired. Yeah. In 2011, our show at the time was very popular. We had like Shaqil O'Neil when he played for the cabs who'd come hang out in studio with Kyrie Irving, Jean Hackman. So the show was really hot. Can I ask you a question about that? Did you ever talk to, did you talk to Shaq about the flatter, earth at all? Well, that was Kyrie Irving, who said the flatter. They both said that. Shaq's, I know Irving's really his favorite part, but Shaq said he once drove from California to Well, that was Kyrie Irvin who said the flat earth. They both said that. Checks. I know Irvin is really his favorite part, but Checks said he wants to throw it from California to Florida and didn't notice Eddie Kerr which are of the earth.

That's all I would tell you about. I know. All right. At the time, I had no idea. You would, um, you would tell us because the Cavaliers, the Clupe and Cavaliers played an independence where a radio show was. So you would drive from Independence to Richfield where he lived at the time and he would listen to our show and one day he decided to stop by.

That's how it all came into fruition. So at the time, I didn't know anything about that. I just knew he was Shaquille O'Neill, you know, a cultural basketball icon. No, I'd be very rude to talk about the flattered if he's playing for the calves at the time. It's fine. And especially when he said he was a fan. Yeah, right. That's a very said he was a fan. Yeah, right. When that's a very surreal situation.

Very cool. Yeah. So anyways, long story short, this guy was an asshole. He went to the rival station. He was ran out of town within eight months. He went to Chicago for like a minute and then disappeared. And now he's back with the Polly MF-20. You're welcome for the plug.

Right. So I want to play a clip where he's lying with the Polly MF20. You're welcome for the plug. Right. So I want to play a clip where he's lying right out of the gate because as you mentioned, his radio name was Maxwell. And now because his nickname is Polly, he's going by Polly. But his real name is Benjamin, even though he doesn't want to admit it for some reason. And I listen to the very. He hates his given name. He hates it.

By the way, not the interrupt. My grandfather was Ben. My cousin's Ben. My uncle's Ben. It hates his given name. He hates it. By the way, not the interrupt. My grandfather was Ben. My my cousins Ben, my uncles Ben. It's a great name. Benjamin is a great name. The guy who invented electricity was named Benjamin. Why do you run electricity? My fucking name. He's running from Benjamin for some reason. He hates this name. So he's going by Pauli, which I think is a nickname. So your name's Benjamin Ben is a great name.

I listened to episode number one of this new podcast that he just launched. And this is him lying right out of the gate. So hey, it's Pauli. What's up? It's been a long time. So Pauli. Yeah, first off, let me thank you for finding the show because it's spelled with a W, which that's a little weird. That's my real name, my parents in addition to. Yeah, first off, let me thank you for finding the show because it's spelled with a W, which that's a little weird. That's my real name, my parents in addition to, so here I am, I'm a little kid, I'm wildly

overweight, I have tough skins, I got a Vikings jacket, half Jewish, I got the, I got the J-Fro kicking, but in addition to that, my name is spelled with a W because my parents want to do ensure playground ass kickings I suppose so he's making up a whole scenario He invented the name Polly and spelled the way that he did and he's saying that he got beat up at the schoolgrounds Because the way his name was spelled doesn't make sense also no one's name on their bros to be get would be Polly It's Paul and then Paul becomes your nickname. What the fuck see even talking about He's invented his mind is not interesting and easily fact-checked

Do you like his radio voice like he has this radio voice? He loves his voice Yeah, he does do the fake everything about him is fake his name his voice his whole stick Everything about this is fake and we I mean, we have some time here, but all you old school O&A fans know exactly who this dude is. Maxwell. He is the Maxwell dude, and we're going to fucking destroy this piece of shit. Yeah, Jim Northern. I hope you don't delete his pocket.

Why? He's not making anybody, huh? That doesn't make a difference. He goes on to explain that the name Polly and the way that spelled is still holding him back to this day in his adulthood. And that still holds me back to this day because people think I've typoed my own name or have spelled my name wrong professionally. So that's awesome. And I want to point out he calls the show Polly MF 20, which is really stupid. I closed the show, Pauli MF20, which is really stupid. He goes, that's really hard to find, because it's spelled wrong.

You could call your podcast anything. I don't care how your name is spelled, or what you think your name is. Call your podcast, the Maxwell Show Podcast. If you want people to find it, that's how they know you. So you're on record by saying, Pauli MF20, the name is stupid. If you're ready to say that.

Yes, it's really bad. And he calls it poly MF 20 because I think he thinks MF sounds edgy like mother fucker. Right. And 20 he's paying for time. Like I don't know how you you're server but I have a lips and account where I can just throw up whatever. So he's he does 20 minutes because that's what he's paying for. Yeah. Right. You buy a certain amount of bandwidth. Yeah, so he does 20 minutes on Monday, 20 minutes on Friday, and he calls it the Polly MF 20.

And he's just a fucking moron. Go ahead. All right, fair enough. Let's get into the radio stick that he does, where he does a lot of voices and he's constantly. Yeah, he's constantly putting on these different affacts and things. Like, we're talking. You and I are talking normally, right? We're having like a, like, this is our voices. Like, when you leave here, you're going to talk like exactly how you are, right?

And guess what? My real name is Carl. So, how high is he? His name is Carl. Right. He's really beautiful. I know. So, when you use like, sign a check or you call yourself Carl, right? Your mom calls you Carl. I was named Carl by my parents, yes. That's OK. Yeah. So he's he can't use his name and he can't use his real voice,

which is interesting. So here's him doing his voices and a stick. Can you do your boy's side and share this information on your social channels? And the reason that I said is I'm not making a penny off of this yet. Rest assured, Morty Chumstead, attorney at law, it's my statutory agent and he's standing by ready to take bids on advertisements. I do hope to make a little bit of coin off of this, but that's really not what it's about at all.

All right, so that's episode one where he's like, this is just a passion project. I'm just enjoying this. I don't want to make any money fast forward to the most recent episode It just came out yesterday It's him he knows that he's hit he's in that he knows the words. He knows the lingo people are catching on He's he's a fucking in it dude. He's 50 years old by the way So fast forward to yesterday's podcast and Now he explains that really the goal is to make money my goal is to make some some K little bit of money doing this Little bit at some point because he starts up with this is just for fun

I don't need to make any money Maybe someday we will and now he's like I gotta start making some money I don't know how I'm gonna do that. And he figures out a way he asks his listeners to give him some feedback on potential revenue stream. Carl, before you go into this clip, I'm gonna say right now, when he got fired from WMMS, he was asking for a half million dollars. Not a joke, he was very well paid,

but he wanted a half million dollars because he was obsessed with Rover the morning show. So he thought he earned that. Now he wants like pennies at this point. And Rover was syndicated into multiple markets because I know that when Howard Stern went to serious XM, Rover took over in Rochester on 94-1 where Howard was. And I believe he was in a couple other markets besides just Cleveland too. Yeah, it was Rover, Adam Corolla and David Lee Roth at the time and none of it worked. All of it, all they all failed. I think Rover, so in Rochester, but he was so obsessed, obsessed with Rover that he needed

this money and they said, fuck this guy, we're done with them and they blew him out. Now he's on a podcast begging for pennies. Oh, it's great. And we'll get more into the Rover stuff because I have some clips on that. But just to get back to his idea of what a revenue stream might be for this podcast that no one listens to. The other thing that I would like to pose,

a question I would like to pose is, as I start to seriously consider how I'm going to turn this into a stream of revenue, right? Revenue stream. Want to make a little money doing this? Just ask yourself, is an online store something you'd be into? Would you buy a shirt that said, I cook for the dog bitch. Would you buy your official?

I cook for the dog bitch. Would you buy your official? I cook for the dog bitch. Sure, or boring. Sure, or is that stupid? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just trying to just sort of throwing these things against the wall because we're going to start figuring out how to make a little bit of coin. I don't want to put the show behind a pay wall. I think that's ridiculous. I don't want to do like a member's only version where you get certain content. Again, don't hold me to it. Yeah, he's like, I might do that. I'd actually get an audience someday and people are willing to pay for it, but he wants to put a stupid catchphrase on T-shirt. This guy is fucking OP. There's an OP, don't you? Why am I pro the man? Pro the man T-shirt. Macarrow E C see sure. Get my shirt. Don't be a star. I was in that world. I met all these

dudes. They're all the same. They're narcissists. They're like, they have narcissists. The personality disorder. They think they're bigger than life. And he loves these catchphrases like, born, like, what is that? It's not catchy. And never will catch on stop saying, it's terrible. Can you please tell me what that catchphr phrase is? I heard it multiple times. I don't know what the word is because the way he says it with the affect.

Well, when he went over to the 98.5 WNCX, the morning show, it was the morning show within the classic rock station. He's our saying, and he just wanted to stop saying it. So he said he thought it would. He thought it would. It's like, yeah, it's like morning, but he said, morning. Yeah, because it's not going to be where. because it's one of those weird, these chalk jocks,

they don't do stand up. So they think they're hilarious with their little word play and their little puns and weird. They don't understand, because there's no laughter coming back at them. So they just speak into this open abyss. And they say these weird catchphrases. And I think it's going to catch on.

And what, what, 12 years later, he's still doing it. So you asked me to pull from the very beginning of one of his episodes. He does. It's actually episode 20 squeeze into that. He starts off with teasing what he's going to be talking about and then right into a bunch of his catch phrases coming up on the poly MF 20. These people can still fit into their clothes, although they're so well, don't you just start to lose weight when you pass a certain age because you're dying? Isn't that at least that's what it looks like

It looks like you reach like a certain point and then you just start to shrink Because you're dying Right so like you're You just sort of rot away like your dying corpse just rots away sort of rot away like your dying corpse just rots away. Polly. MF 20. Bording. Chicky chick.

Microphote. Oh. Bording. Polly. Polly. Polly. Polly. Polly.

It's one of those shows. Oh, it's terrible. You know what I'm about this, Ken? It's one of those shows. Or I don't have to say anything. Like, some of the shows you play clip and you explain why it sucks. I don't do explain why that sucks. We all got it All right, I have a clip here that you asked me to pull out It's over four minutes long We're gonna listen to it. We can stop it anytime. We can pause it. We can talk over it. I don't care.

Carl, before we get into it, yes. Do you realize his podcast is 20 minutes in these teasing segments? Like it's a four-hour broadcast? Like coming up! Dude, it's 20 minutes! I wasn't doing episode where he teased shit in the beginning, and then he read all the direct tweets he gets or something, or maybe it's his Facebook page or something. So he reads those, and then he teases it again. Now we're gonna talk about this, this, this, this, but first we're gonna talk about that.

Like, dude, if you're not doing a radio show, you don't need to tease the information. Carl, I wanna know what's coming up on, who are these podcasts right now. I want to see later. We're going to talk about Opie Radio, Suddory John, Patrick Michael, has a new podcast, but first, Chad Zubak wanted to zoom in on this next segment. This is his, this is his ranch bit. So by the way, just give you guys a heads up before this, he wanted to be a comedian at one point and he just, and he gave up and he just started shitting on local comics.

And we're like local comics at the time we had day jobs, we're trying to figure it out. And he was just really shitty to us. And this is his idea of comedy. So. Yeah, you pointed out to me in your email that this guy really thinks he's funny. And he thinks he's got like these great bits and he's developed this material that he can't wait to get out there. So he teases, he's going to talk about dressing. I got a whole thing and it's really funny. Listen to how difficult this is to comprehend. He is so bad at this. They's pretending that he's not sure if it's going to be funny or not,

and it's not. And so he's not sure if he wants to do it. He just drags us out. Guys, listen to this bit. This is what you do on radio when you have four hours to kill on a daily basis, not on a 20 minute podcast. And action. And action. And cut.

See, I don't really know where to start the bit. And now I'm second-guessing the entire bit. So I've envisioned starting off the podcast, because I've been working on this for I don't know like And it's not so much a bit as it is just an observation a random observation about life But I've been thinking about this dressings thing for I don't know about a month He's been thinking about this dressings thing For a month It's been percolating can't wait to find out what it's out what he's got been sort of hold

Fuck a lot. Fuck a lid. Put your laughing pants on for this one. Oh, dude, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring this. Hold on, I think I'm overmodulating a little bit. Let me turn down the book. I'm gonna bring this dressings bed. It's gonna be hardcore, bro.

Bro, he's straight, this dressings bed. Of course, I'm talking about salad dressings. Let me clear if I'm gonna bring this salad dressings bed. It's gonna be huge. And I've rehearsed it many times in my head Never done it and so now I'm sort of Jumping over the diving board. It's my This is gonna be me loaf to Electric blue blue boarding all right and dressings and

Action I think I just, and cut. Did I just, did the mic over modulate again? I've got new toys, you know, I've actually been talking about this a fair amount, you know, the, uh, This is such a radio hack shit, we have to be like, we're gonna tell you this amazing thing, but first, oh my gosh, my pants are tight. Uh, did I wear the wrong pants today? I had to put my belt in different knots and the small ones. I'm gonna put my belt in the middle of the room. I'm gonna put my belt in the middle of the room. Shit we have to be like we're gonna tell you this amazing thing but first. Oh my gosh my pants are tight Did I wear the wrong pants today? I had to put my belt in different knots this morning Just tease in the audience

They're also in love with their voices so they're like listening through the voice the sound of the voice and they don't like how the voice is Oh my overmodulating yes your podcast sounds like dog shit You do not know how to engineer your podcast. It does sound like garbage, yes. The answer is yes. Show I've got some toys here. There's a podcast by the way, not radio. Right, it's a podcast. And Eric Nagle has pointed this out before,

these guys who used to be on the radio, used to be like radio personalities who go on to podcast, don't know any of the engineering side of things. So they get on and they create God awful sounding podcast and this is no exception. I'm just tweaking this, moving this, turning this, with that, with that, with that, with the little, okay, here we go.

Man, I am wasting a lot of time here. Okay, this is, wow, this could drive away as many people with this as I do with the horny hornet. Hey, wait, we have a horny hornet there, especially new people who are like, what the this guy with the first good news. There's no new people listening to the show. So don't worry. No, no, no, no, it's like, why what is this?

Yeah, you're not turning people off at this point. You already turned them off. And how is he? He has maybe like a couple of minutes, a minute of his old audience. Yeah, there's a couple of people. I would say he has OP level listeners. It's probably up to 120 or so.

It's just like a fraction, like a small fraction of what they used to do, but they pretend like they're coming aboard. Right. It's gotta be depressing when you used to look at the ratings books and see how many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of listeners you had. And then you go and do a podcast and 17 people show up for the first episode and 22 for episode two.

Like fuck, it's gonna take a while. Like I know you guys shoot on OP a lot and rightfully so he's a horrible man. Yeah. And I've been on record. I think it's a terrible, I'll tell my story later on. But OP was one of the biggest radio personalities in the world. Like, it's undeniable him and Anthony that you can't, it's undeniable. But right now, he's on Facebook live. Like, there are like weirdos and their basements that have more listeners.

It's like really scary. He's talking about me, motherfucker. And they're in Rochester and they're in the case. They're in the case. So, all right, let's get back to this. We're gonna save the OP stuff from the OP Cypher because I gotta talk about that. He reviewed the first presidential debate,

which I always love is political. His political takes. Shout out to Will Nune, by the way. Yeah, Will Nune and fucking kill it. Brother Man, brother Man. Brother Man, well, the way. Yeah, Will Newton fucking killed it brother man brother man. Brother man. Well, the way I did but my over impression is just an impression of Will doing open. Right. Which is, uh, which is just as funny.

It always works. Yeah. And let's try to get through this bit. It's taking a long time. Only on F 20. Let's listen to this bit. Bed on Caesar Dress, oh see I let the cat out of the bag. All right.

Dressings and action. Do you deny yourself certain salad dressings? And cut, see, I don't, I'm not, I'm not feeling, I don't feel like this is good. All right, I need to commit, I need to commit. Part of what I have learned in my career as an entertainer is that the gold is when you just throw it all out there and you just, right, you just,

zits and warts and all, right? Okay, here we go. Cut. I think I already said that. All right. Dressings. And action. He's making this, so it's impossible for it to be funny

because there's so much build up to it. So I guess to be funny because there's so much build up to it. So I guess the joke is that there's so much build up to a bad bit, I guess, which is not a good joke or bad. I'm trying to channel and it was psychic. Like when I listen to like horrible shit, I try to figure out where they're coming from. I really do. Yeah, of course.

Like I'm like, what are they thinking like? At this point, I'm like, are you just trying to kill bandwidth? I don't know what you're trying to do right now, because who's tuning in? I use ranch a lot. And I tend that at 10. I... By the way, the guy who's 300 pounds uses ranch, shocking. Revert?

Or... Not a viti-guerat? No way, you don't say. Ranch is my default dressing, right? But it's interesting because I have other dressings that I like, yet I deny myself these dressings. Dude, thousand islands good. French is good.

Italian's good. Blue cheese is good. All these other dressings, I see them when they're available, I'm eating the salad and I like denying myself. Because I like, honestly, when I think about it, all my dressing options are very, very, like, it's a tight pack. There is no clear leader.

I suppose ranch is in front, but it's tight. It's still a tight pack. It's like no one's way out ahead. is in front, but it's tight. It's still a tight pack. It's like no one's way out ahead. Any and every time I belly on up and out of the sound, I'm like, I guess I'll have the ranch. They're bringing it to me. I don't do that.

I like French. And the reason that I bring up this bit is because I think we all do this. I think we all are dressing racists almost. It's like we have these other... By the way, that's the punchline, in case you are wondering. This is what all this build up has been, is we're all dressing racists

because we choose our favorite and use that most of the time. We're dressing so we like, but we deny ourselves for some reason. Now, maybe, it doesn't only matter because at the end of the day, you're still eating a salad. And the type of dressing that I put on my salad is really an exercise in turd polishing because it still is a salad. And cut.

So there it is, folks. There's the hilarious dressing bet. I'm gonna read quick comments from Jim Norton's book in title. Before you jump into that, can I say something? Yeah, please. First and foremost, Pauli Maxwell slash later,

a size Benjamin Borenstein, you are welcome for this exposure. As a young comic, trying to figure shit out when I had a day job I wanted to pursue comedy. I wanted to be like Bill Burr, Louis CK. I wanted to be like something. I look forward to situations and opportunities to help push my career forward and you would shit on me as a young comic on the radio when you had all that exposure before social media. Guess what? 2020, we are ruining your fucking podcast right now

because it's terrible. It's called Karma Bitch. So anyone out there listening right now, this is called Karma. We are ruining this guy's life because he's a piece of shit of a human being and he tried to fuck up a young comic's career and punt, born in.

And punt. So he's got these fucking catchphrases. And as Jim Norton says, and in the style of a true jerk off, he has a catchphrase. Yes, a fucking catchphrase. He also says, Benjamin, I mean this without rank or you're just not a funny guy. Stop trying to be a comedic force, you aren't and never will be. And I like that Jim Norton's very better effect about the idea that this guy is not entertaining in any single way, even with his amazing catchphrases and punt

Just that work. I was a sketch rise and punt was this thing. Yeah, and punt after he says like a like a rant and he goes and punt and it Terrible Well, I'm sure he made t-shirts though with and Fuck yeah, and fun shirts were out there. They're out there. Who would have unaware my and Puntzer to the rock answer show it a cool guy. I was in the W. M. M. S. What do you want to do, mother fucker? Listen to hot talk. God bless the great Jim Norton for doing this. I love him dearly. This chapter in his book, shitting on Maxwell slash Paulie is the favorite. It's amazing. It was brilliant. So keep reading. Yeah,

producer Chris and I both read that chapter yesterday, just to familiarize ourselves with the hatred that open Anthony had for this guy. Basically, what happened was, open Anthony was being syndicated to Cleveland in the afternoon. So Maxwell saw this as a threat, decided to go after open Anthony and specifically Jim Norton saying that it's comedy special wasn't funny. So they do what they did, they crushed him. Open Anthony crushed this guy. They have, I don't know, 80 fold more listeners in this guy ever had. And then he tried to be like, oh, we're just a local show.

Why are you picking on us? Dude, you fucking started it, you moron. That's a problem with these assholes. Is they want to be tough guys until they realize they don't have the same listenership and they're terrible at what they do. They're like, what are you picking on us? What do we ever do? Carl, by the way, just to set it up, this all started with Louis C.K. calling into Promote a Show. Right.

I made a joke about Eric Clapton's baby dying, which is, you know, hilarious, tears in heaven. And then they hang up on them. They start trashing them. They don't trash them to a space. They hang up on them and start trashing like typical radio shock, jock shit. I think he went too far with that baby joke.

What do you think they're, uh, Skippy? Stan's very. Hey, Krunk. What do you think about that baby joke, huh? Stan's very junk. What do you guys think about it? Not funny. Hashtag and punt. Let's bring guys think about I'm not funny hashtag and putt

Let's bring in Stuttboy get his take on it. Well, Stuttboys fall his father's fall come on Stuttboy Lucy K Lucy K not funny that's funny everybody knows this guy's not funny God damn it's it's really sad. But as we mentioned, this guy has great, hilarious voices and a Norma Donald impression. He just can't help himself. Amazing, you get just talk. No, he's always going into voices.

People have the smartphones there, and the smart speakers there, Norma Donald, the podcast is viable. So I'd strongly encourage you to listen to the, I think I just overdrove the mic with a viable, viable, viability, right. The problem with that Norman Prussian is that Norman Donald is funny. So he's kind of missing the mark there. In another episode, he starts off the show going into his normal talent impression and I call this misguided confidence.

Nobody should have this much confidence with this bad of a stick. See, I see a norm and say really, because me going 19 minutes and 54 seconds and anything is a world record there. Let me drink some water, Steve writes. Another thing that he does on his show is constantly making mouth noises, drinking beverages. It's 20 minutes long. Just don't drink a beverage for 20 minutes. Is it that difficult? Hold on. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, here's an example of just that thing.

All right. Yeah. Now let's, let's broadcast. And this is him talking about, so he hasn't talked to his older daughter and he comes down and he's like, some things have changed in my life. I want to let you know that I'm talking to my older daughter now. And like, I felt like Chris Rock,

you're supposed to talk to your older daughter. It's not that impressive. But- By the way, he's always talking about how he's a changed man. Like, he's this new guy, but he can't let go of the past. He can't, his whole podcast is about the past. His old radio days is a daughter. So he's this new man.

He wants everyone, I'm a new man. In fact, I have a new name. It's called Paulie. Yeah, he's got a lot of opiate on this guy. I don't want to talk about opiate, Anthony. And here's a clip from the opiate, Anthony show where I made a joke. All right, I got to stop talking about opiate.

It's too much. This is him talking about he's all excited that he's talking to his daughter again. And he's talking about what she's been up to. Her education was around substance abuse counseling, how funny is that? And low and behold, I just took a sip of water, a little bit of life juice, some moistened meal, throat, you know what I'm saying? I need a lords and jurve. You got any lords and jurves? She graduated from UC. How obnoxious is this show? He's drinking beverages, he's doing dumb voices.

You hear everything that's going on in his mouth and his throat? I don't need to hear everything that's going on in your mouth at full. I'll rant stressing. Carl, does a bother you make? He made 200,000 a year at one point. It doesn't bother me at all.

I don't mind if people make a living at this shit. I wish that there were more humble about it and understood that maybe it wasn't all of them that was the driving force. Like I know that people had your stupid catch phrase t-shirt on, congratulations. And on. But what happens is you get hired

for a job at a radio station, right? And people have the frequency already programmed in in their car. So one day they hit that frequency because they liked the thing that was on there last week and now it's your voice talking and they're kind of stuck with you. And what I love about the new way the world works

is when you build a podcast audience, you actually have to be good. It doesn't start with, oh, I'm just gonna take over this other person's RSS feed and then I'll have this huge audience going on. Like I remember David Lee Roth, we need to go over this other person's RSS feed, and then I'll have this huge audience going on. Like I remember David Lee Roth, we need to go over Howard Stern, he's like, oh man, I talked to 30,000 people at night. I don't have a problem talking to a million people,

and Howard Stern goes, why would you think you're gonna talk to a million people? That's my audience. That's not your audience. Two units. If you're saying Polly, slash Maxwell, slash Slater, slash Benjamin Borenestein is not a genius. That's what I'm saying.

And maybe he should be not taking it for granted. Then he just build an audience out of nowhere. And punt. All right, let's talk about, let's talk about him leaving radio. So as you mentioned, he was making a lot of money and he decides. It's time to money. He was up into his contract was up and he had this really weird, like he thought he was like the biggest thing in the world.

Yeah. And he was like the management at WMMS and Cleveland, which I was employed by, I heart rate clear channel. Like we're done with this guy. We're done. And they end punting, and they bring me in because which was like the biggest fucking fuck you of all time, like suck you, I took your time slot,

Cunt, and then he disappears for like a year and pun. And he comes back a year later on WNCX, and he tries to trash me in the mornings, and he ends up getting runnin' on it. He got ran out of town with an eight months. Go ahead. Right. So, after that, he goes to Chicago, he gets some job, the station that he's on, switches

over to a Christian format, so he's out of a job again. And he explains that he decided to retire from radio. Carl, by the way, I was up for his job in Chicago, too. They flew me out. It was it was 97.9 the loop or yeah, it was it was the loop or man cow was the morning show. They flew me in. I did two test shows. I say in the hotel. So I almost had his morning job. So I almost like wherever Maxwell went, I almost had his job everywhere I went. So this is I'm explaining to his wife that she's going to have to fight a job now.

My wife works again. That was a fun conversation when I decided to retire from radio, which is that's polishing the turd for sure. I guess I decided to walk away from that business when I was considering a job in Arizona. I think the business walked away from you, my friend. So he explained to the editor, that his wife that she had to get a job and what a rough conversation that was. She was, this wife should have left.

That's a rough conversation. Yeah, you know why that was a rough conversation? She married a fat drug addict because he was making a lot of money. Hey, guess what? I'm still fat. I still suck it life, and I don't make any money anymore,

and you gotta get a job. That's the one- And she starts with him. Yeah, and this guy, like, this poor woman, like, please leave him. Like, you need help. Leave this man. And he says this, too, on his show.

My wife is smart, but I'm flat out gonna tell you that I'm smarter than my wife. I believe that to be true. She might even admit it, smarter. And fun. I believe that to be true. She might even admit it, smarter. And Pond, I believe that's probably true too because she married him. He probably is smarter than his wife, but I wouldn't say that out loud. He's lucky that a podcast don't listen to because that's not a smart thing to say. By the way, like, honestly, it's very bad to go out for people's families, but his wife's retarded

Like she's stupid like what why are you with this fucking asshole and this guy By the way the reason the venom's coming out of me because you would come at me when he was a sober guy When you're drunk and you're an alcoholic or an addict I get it But you were sober Trashing me and try to get me fired. So fuck you, Paulie, slash Maxwell,

slash Benjamin Borns thing. He's talking about the band bread and he brings up that there's an album called The Best of Bread. It's their best album. Oftentimes the best up insert band name here would be the name of the album and he comes up with a hilarious joke that he cracks himself up over and listen for hints of a bird-crusher ripoff coming up here to us. They released a album of lesser non-favorites. It was simply called, uh, a gifly, I'm gonna do this. Oh my god, that's so stupid. Okay, let me, let me try it there. So, uh, so yeah, so this is from the,

uh, this is, this is from the best of bread, all right. And then they released a follow-up to it, had some of the lesser-known songs, arguably some not even close to being hits and that was simply called the The crumbs of This dude is fucking corny He's killing it. He couldn't get that out the crumbs of red He could not get that joke out because it was too hilarious.

After he did that, Benny goes, I needed that laugh, guys. That's a good one. I can't believe no one's listening to this show. It's unbelievable. How is that possible? Did you ever watch Chris Rock spring the paint? Of course. It's right up there. It's right up there. I don't know which one's number one and which one's number two. It's hard. I go back and forth. So he has to admit, well, he doesn't, but he almost admits that no one's listening to his show and then he stops himself because in true, disjockey tradition, you can't say anything real. Everything has to be fake. James writes, Hey, man, Bordeic. Bordeic James says, dude, glad to hear you back at it.

It's awesome. I just started listening this past Saturday. I binge every episode. So many laugh out loud moments. Keep it up. James, dude. Okay. First off, that is super awesome. Be how do you find out about this thing? Because man, this really isn't it at the end of the day. It comes down to getting the word out. He goes, how did you find this show? Because nobody's lab. I mean, you know, we just, we got to get the word out. Everybody. It's really important. He goes, how did you fight this show? Because nobody's laughing. I mean,

you know, we just, we got to get the word out everybody. It's really important. He goes on to real quick. He goes on to talk about why are the super fans of the Maxwell show finding him? By the way, we're getting the word out for him. We are going to understand like your podcast is very big. It's very popular. You have a lot of listeners and it's undeniable. Like, who listens? We all listen. So we're helping you.

We're getting the word out. Maxwell, Paulie. Yeah, and I'm going to play some of his great jokes for you to make sure people are checking it out. Paulie, I love to watch it. Here is, here's him explaining, I can't believe the super fans of the Maxwell Show aren't finding us. Super fans, where yeah, how do we, how can't believe the super fans of the Maxwell show aren't finding us.

Oh, super fans, where yeah, how do we, how do we get the super fans? And look, I know I suck on Twitter because I, who I Twitter. I don't think tweeting is what's gonna help this show. I think all the tweeting in the world is not gonna do it. To be honest with ya, he's not understanding how idea this works. Then he reads, because he's reading all these comments that come in. So somebody asks him about taking over for Rover show, which is hilarious. Rover has hinted at leaving when his contract expires. If that were to happen and WMMS,

that's his home station. And I heart picked up the phone and called you. Would you come do mornings? Okay. First off, let me say say that I appreciate that question, but this is the type of stuff that I'm not really gonna talk about anymore He's pretty tiny. This is a realistic scenario Rover leaves MMS and they call you to come over and take this over dude. You got fired from there 10 years ago 11 years ago. This is not even realizing he's like listen guys. I didn't want to speculate on this Talk about anymore because it's almost like you're dancing on someone's grave. It's like, listen, listen guys, I didn't want to speculate on this. Talk about it anymore because it's almost like you're dancing on someone's grave. It's like, what if he, what if they fired him or what if they did? You know that he would take that gig in a heartbeat.

Carl, he's a social. He's making $30,000 a year right now. Of course he would take that gig here right now. This guy, when he got fired from W. M. M. S. and Cleveland, he went to W. N. C. X. 98.5, the classic rock station. Their ratings were so low, he signed a year contract. They blew him out eight months. His ratings were so low. Nobody gives a fuck. And there's this will never happen. And by the way, the Polly MF 20 is not a podcast. It's him trying to get a radio gig because he's done. No one will

ever hire him ever. But he likes to think that, well, you know, if Rover decides to leave terrestrial radio, I'll probably on the short list for that phone calling. No, you're not. I'm not a big fan of Rover at all, but he's undeniable with his success. He made a lot of money in this industry. But at the end of the day nobody, this guy's on, he's on no one's radar, nobody's radar. We rovers socks, we did a review of his show, if you want to check that out. I don't know how much episode it is, but it's worth all. Like I'm not a fan. He's been very, very, very shitty to me. So I, I'll never encourage anyone, but it's, it's archaic. It's the dinosaurs dying. So whatever it is, what it is, I don't give a fuck

when a hotel room in Kansas City, I might be dead tomorrow. Go ahead with the clip. This is how you live your life, dude. I've noticed you like to start shit with a lot of people. I enjoy that a lot. I heard you shooting on Chrissy Mayer on a recent podcast. The Unified.

Not a fan. All right. Well, before we get into anything else, let's finish up on a few clips here. You listen to an episode number 14 called not doing that. And he reads an email about losing listeners. You're talking like we're talking. We're listening to the red hot jelly peppers, vacation. Like it's like an album. Right. We got a few more cuts.

Really, fuck the B side. We got some deep cuts here. Here we go. Here's the other side with Paulie, MF20. This is called Crumbs of Paulie. This is how... See how I was able to just get that out? That's gonna be professional.

Let's go ahead and get to some emails and some Facebook comments. Josh Emerson writes, this is sure not the Maxwell show that I loved. Gotta say, you're falling a little short. There you go. Here they go. They start dropping like flies because, eh, it's just not so here. Here you go, Josh. I mean, what are you?

What do you want for me, dude? I knew this was gonna happen. I'm okay, it's collateral damage. Not everyone, not everyone's gonna like it because it's different, because I'm different, because I change, because we change. Maybe you should change, Josh. I like how they started off with,

look at it, not for everyone, we're doing something different. He's like, why, you should like it. You're an asshole. You haven even evolved, like I've evolved. It's your problem. You only think this, the only thing that's changes his name, that's it, nothing changed, he's so fucking asshole. Well, something else changed that I think you pointed out, and that's the fact that

he no longer has the cast and crew of personalities on there with him. Let's get into that. Maybe you can have chunk thrown in or a pod. You know what? I actually reached out to Tiffany. I heard enough about that. I mean, wow, that makes it sound like I'm not thrilled about it. No, I just, you know, people asked enough that I just reached out just throughout like a, hey, what's up? You hate me? What's up? So I don't know if anything will come from it. We'll see. That would be interesting. Mr. laugh.

All right. So Tiffany, AKA chunk was a hole. Yes, she was the whole of the show. And she actually fouled him from the show they got fired from to that other show that they lasted eight months on. And listen, she's that she's the nice person. She's a very nice lady. Yeah. But after that second sin on that WNCX, she's like, fuck this guy.

I'm done with him. He's a psycho bad. And she wanted to live a normal life. And this guy won't stop harassing her. Like, he's stalking her. Like, he's like, she's like living a normal life. Like, I don't need radio. I don't need exposure.

I don't need this life. But Maxwell or Slash Polly is like looking for her in bother near. Right. So he explains that he is trying to get in touch with her to get her on the podcast. And this is the one where you said, he keeps saying that he's moved on, but he will not let go of the past. Is this where I should bump you out and tell you guys how I just talked to Tiffany? Should I do that? How I just talked to Tiffany? Should I do that?

How I just talked to Chuck? Remember old chunk? Yeah, just talk to her. This is where we're going to go into a thumb. I'm going to embrace the tail spin right now because this actually speaks to what she had to say. So, I picked up the phone and called her again because I can't wait for people to come to me.

I got to stock them. You know what I'm saying? It's how I do it. I picked up to me. I got to stock them. You know what I'm saying? It's it's a it's how I do it. I yeah, yeah, yeah, I picked up the phone. I gave chunk of call and she answered nice and We had a really nice pleasant conversation. We caught up and then I asked her if she knew about the podcast and she's like I had no idea Oh, so she's like everybody else in the world. She had no idea you're doing a podcast Well, that's exciting. They talked so Chad. Maybe she's gonna everybody else in the world. She had no idea you were doing a podcast. Well, that's exciting. They talked.

So Chad, maybe she's gonna come on the show. All right, what's funny here is his co-host, Stan's Barry. He's on I Heart Radio and Gantt right now. He replaced Bob and Tom Mornin. So he has a morning show and he doesn't talk about him. They have no interaction. It's very strange.

It's very weird. So for him seeking out this old covo slash third mic and not him mentioning Stansbury is interesting. You think maybe they had a little bit of a falling out because maybe Max will have a asshole? Is that what you're, is that what you're doing? Two things, he's either a fucking asshole, I want nothing to do with him or one Maxwell wants to get back

on radio in a dying industry. Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. He can't even get someone who's not doing anything right now to come out of his show. And I extended the invitation for her to come on for an episode. And I don't think she's going to do it. She, uh, and again, this is... I don't think she's gonna do it. She, and again, this is... You can't even get her to just call Wendy to his podcast. You would think they'd want to have a little bit of closure or just a little conversation

for the fans. She's like, I'm not into it. But, I ask you this, Chad, could they maybe at least get together socially and hang out? I said, give it a listen. And if you have any desire, I would love to have you on just to say hello. And I left it at that. And then I said, and we would love to have you over for dinner. And there was a pause and she was like, yeah, maybe someday. And I was like, oh, that's kind of a kind of a kick there. You're not really. So anyway, she doesn't want to get together with her for dinner.

And it like how you know, Stuttering John always asks people out for drinks because he's an alcoholic. This guy's 300 pounds. He's like, what do you want to get together for dinner? Launch third dinner, second dinner, late night snack. What do you want to get together for her? This this this poor lady, Chong Tiffany. She wants to live her life.

This guy won't let her go like what why is he podcasting at this point like just stop it dude it's over it's all done you got burned out of the radio industry you're not making a comeback you're not a change man just stop harassing former employees and pond all right I have one more clip that I really want to play former employees and pond. All right, I have one more clip that I really want to play. And I don't know if I should reveal what this is or I should let it play and then have you explain what we just listened to. Play it now.

I'll tell you exactly what you're talking about. Okay. This is someone who left a voice smell. He plays people's voice smells. Ording. Bordeca, Bordeca. Bordeca. I've been loving the show.

I love that you brought it back. I want to- Okay, is this real? Is this a... I don't know. My spade sense is tingling me, thinks this could be someone doing a voice. Although part of me is also like, nah, this is. It sounds like that guy from...

What was the king of the hill? A hill large-pie pie fried and all day. So it's been listening to old MMS shows or if he just kind of more or less listen to a podcast. Uh, okay. So to answer that, I think what you're asking is, do I listen to terrestrial radio? The answer is for the most part, no. So that voice mail was me with an, I was doing a country accent and he cut off the end of it Which I want to know I go you ever talk to Stan's very his co-host who has a radio show and Ken

He won't address the situation. He won't address what their relationship is why he won't say his name nothing But that was me that's how he cut off his new show he cut you up. It's like I think what he's asking me here Well, let me just answer the question. I'll make it up that he's asking me Yeah, cuz I didn't want him to know it was me, so I had to do a fake accent You know, it's not that great, but at the end of the day like I want to know what the fuck is going on with him in standsbury's co-host Well his spidey sense was tingling on that one So he was on to something. He was on. He was on. He was on to that one. Yeah. Oh boy. This was a great way to start off Jack topper. It's a show that I know, open Anthony had a whole saga with Maxwell. And

they definitely got the better of them. I think the past. Yeah, I think the past really screwed them up. I think their MySpace page was obliterated by the past and the opianthani show and not funny. That's where that came from.oddy. Anything else you want to say about our friend, Polly, there? Listen, guys, thank you so much. I'm a fan of your podcast. And if you want to support me, by all means, you can listen to my podcast, sit down, zoom-ok. I'm on Kevin Brennan's podcast. I know you guys have a weird, I don't care.

Anyway, I'm there. But, seriously, if you can go to iTunes and leave a one-star rating to Pauli MF20 and tell him how terrible it is, I appreciate it. Let's shit out this guy. Go to his iTunes and just shit on it. One star, he sucks, and pond, not funny. You fucking asshole.

Because when I was a young comic trying to make it, you were horrible to me. And now you're recovering alcoholic. And if you do your 12 steps, you're supposed to like forgive. You've never done that. So I will make your life a living hell. I went on to who are these podcasts, which is very popular. Everyone listens.

And you are done. It's over. Your podcast is over. Suck my dick. Fuck off. And. All right. And you're embarrassing yourself. That's the best part about this. your podcast is over. Suck my dick, fuck off, and- And you're embarrassing yourself. That's the best part about this.

I love these radio guys who can't let it go. Like, how I can still do this. Obviously, you cannot. Okay. Yes, obviously, you cannot. Obviously, it was the people around you that made you listenable in the first place because when you do it by yourself,

you fucking suck at it. You're really bad. Oh, be. We'll get to that in a minute. And we'll definitely talk more about Sit Down with Zumaq podcast. But first, I really want to play. By the way, it's not that great of a pot.

I have a podcast. It's not that great. It's not. It's like fine. Or it's decent. Jesus Christ, try to help you out here, Chad. I'm just being honest. Like, we want honesty in this life like Chrissy mayors terrible you guys won't admit it in my podcast is not that good so go ahead. Oh great. Well first I want to thank. Breaking this show to you is my bookie between the NFL College ball and MLB playoffs. There's no shortage of games to watch. By the way, my fucking cobs yesterday.

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I can tell you that the people who listen to his show are just as boring as him. And I'll prove it. They're talking about the presidential debate between Biden and Trump that happened this past Tuesday. I want his take. I want his take so bad. You won't believe it. His take is that nobody won. I know what a hot take that is.

But someone comes up with a really funny take. I was going to say that good for you, Jonathan Fah, like watching Walter Mathau and Jack Lemon. Yes, from Grumpy Old Men. Oh, hilarious. I was going to say that. He says, I don't know if you want to take credit for that. I was gonna say that, he says. I don't know if you wanna take credit for that one.

It's not that interesting or original. Carl, how much money is Opie made? Do you know? He was making between two to three million dollars a year when he was working as serious. I don't know much money he was making on terrestrial, but he's a multi-millionaire. Just go away.

Just go away. That's all fine. You give me that money, I'm done. I'm out. You'll never hear something again. I am gone. You'll never hear from me again. He's a narcissist.

It's called narcissist. Narcissist, personality disorder. He needs this attention. And it's gross. Like, honestly, I will leave. If you give me a million dollars, I'm done. I'm out. I don't need it.

Well, it's weird because you talk to millions of people every morning on the radio and now you talk to 120 people on Facebook, you would think that would be enough to discourage you. For some reason, OP is fine with that. He thinks it's good enough. So somebody in the chat asks about Howard Stern. OP responds, he's not a fan of Stern as you know, he responds and then immediately catches himself that he is not a better place

than Stern is. Howard Stern, he's not even in the conversation anymore. You know what, I'm not either. You know, I can't sit here and say Howard Stern's not in the conversation anymore, make believe I am. I got a phone duct tape to a window because it's too windy outside to do my live stream. All right, picture this. He's got his phone duct tape to a window because he also has to hold a zoom recorder that

he's recording his podcast on while also doing Facebook live. I'm not joking. This is what the setup is. A guy who used to have a maculat studio at Sirius Xab is talking to a Zoom recorder and a smartphone that's duct tape to a window. Carl, his agent Bobby M. was about to represent me at one point. He told me the amount of money O.P. was going to make. And I was blown away. I was like, holy shit, it's unbelievable. Now, I'm not trying to be disrespectful because I like you and I love the podcast, but what's your situation right now? Like what where are you at opposed to opi radio zoom recorder? As far as listeners go?

Now I'm just talking about your setup. Oh, fair enough. We've upgraded recently in more recent times. So we do this from my house, but we do have a studio built here. Right. And we do have a professional set up now. You have microphones and mixer, all that shit. Correct. Yep. I'm looking at microphones, even producer. Chris has a microphone in front of him. You have a producer.

Just in case. Say hi, Chris. You, Chris, what's up? You have a producer. So Opie's just talking to a recorder. And his kids are playing in the background. So he's just talking to a recorder. And his kids are playing in the background. He doesn't even have like a secluded place. He's usually walking. He's usually walking in the beach and doing this. You hear wind and shit. But in this scenario, it stormy outside. So he's inside and he has a tape to the window as he's doing this because he likes to show the beach on his Facebook.

He doesn't show himself. He shows the beach on his Facebook live. It's incredible. And actually, let's talk about that because Opie explains that he's trying to turn this into a show, this format that he has. Kind of frustrating though, because the regulars know we've been doing this a really long time. And you know, I'm starting to develop it into a real kind of a I get I guess a show in a way at first I would just turn us on and go hey what's up hey what's going on with you man and now we're trying to we're trying to develop this into material certainly I take a lot of this stuff and I put it into the OP radio podcast. Like I cut out all the fat and then it makes

me sound like I'm really sharp and quick and I can just go from topic to topic. That's my editing skills. This is the edited version. I honestly had no idea. That's amazing. This is this 27 minute episode that I listened to where he's mumbling nonsense with retards is the added quality version of a podcast. That's insane. And Chad, he's a retar. Go ahead. He recognizes that he's competing with every other podcast out there and you would think

having recognized that and knowing what your ex-partner is doing with compound media and having a whole studio set up and live streaming and everything that he's doing, that he would realize he's going to up this game a little bit, he thinks he's doing enough. I'm basically competing with pretty much every single person that lives on Planet Earth now. They all decided they could do what I do. Everyone has a podcast. My wife is sick of it because every time you turn on the TV, you hear, and don't forget about my new podcast. And I'm like, of course, of course you've got a podcast too. So that's why I got to try to make it as polished as possible

and make it smoke. Because I'm literally competing with hundreds of thousands of assholes now. Where is this confidence coming from? I gotta make my show smoke. It's terrible. It's the worst thing you've done and you've done so many bad things. You used to podcast in the kitchen of a restaurant while it was being built and that was better than what you're doing now. By the way, you know, all his listeners is he had the feed like he still had the RSS feed from opian Anthony

So that's why he has listeners like he's like he's getting dude. He debuted at number two on iTunes When he was on Westwood one he was he had a ton of downloads. He's lost them all Yeah, so it's not like he grew this from like grass roots from like a new lips and feet like it's this is all new This is terrible. It's terrible. I think you'd be depressed about it I bet he is you had mentioned to me that you had a little run in with OP Greg Hughes. Yeah, Gregory So listen, I Every comic wants to do OP Nathany everyone and I'm lucky enough to be a regular on Kumio show, which is great

So I used to go up serious XM. I did Pete the on Pete Dominic. I did God free Karen Hunter and Rodol Gradyo and I would hang out in the hall age is waiting along shows so club soda Kenny who's a friend of mine Salming goes hey, what are you doing here? I told him he goes. Let me get you on OP show I'm like yeah. It's great. It's my favorite. Fucking great, dude.

Yeah. This awesome. He literally went in studio goes, we have a Cleveland correspondent. His name's Chad Zumak. And OP goes, who? OP knows who I am. I've had conversations. I've had like long conversations, though, about about radio because we had Bob Eatman in common.

So he knew what it was. And he said, who? So fuck you, OP, you can't. You asshole. Like I you knew who I was and you pretend like you did it. And now your show's gone and you're on a shitty podcast. And I'm fucking skull fucking you on who are these podcasts. This is another example.

Opie says, all my friends deserve to be, I guess we see our real friends are not, I don't have power. It's like, you were a shit head to people. You big time people all the time. This is what you deserve. And he acts like, Oh, everyone was just trying to use me

for my, you know, I had a big radio show. It's like, no, Opie, you were the asshole in every scenario. Who? Jesus. So I'm guessing you never got on the Opie to answer these show, then. Now, I was just in the hallway.

I was watching like Shrad and Carl and those guys. I was like in the hallway watching like, all right, cool. I was doing another show, but at the time, like Kenny being a great dude is trying to get me on. He's trying to throw an assist, but Opie is an arch-ass, and he thought I was beneath him. And you know, fast forward, like two months later,

Carl was doing a show at the Village Underground, I showed up, and he's like, Zuma, what's up? We start talking, and I knew what he was doing. I'm like, what's up? You know, I don't want to be a dick. But at the time, I'm like, he's a fucking radio. I know these dudes. He's Maxwell, he's Paul, he's Alan Cox. He's every fucking radio. I know these dudes. He's Maxwell. He's Paulie. He's Alan Cox.

He's every fucking radio hack of all time. But way more successful, which makes him even worse, which makes him even more. He's a multi-million. Yeah. Undeniable. Listen, he's, he should just go away. It's where you're done. So he loves to compare himself to Howard Stern and someone asks a question while he's doing his show. Oh, the real question is who wins in a fight Stern or OP?

Wow, that's a great question. That's not a great question. That's the. The terrible question. That's a stupid question. The terrible question. It's a terrible question. All right, before we move on to stuttering John and his antics, a couple of things I want to play.

And this is OP going through the debate and giving his hot takes at it. This is about how he just is watching this stuff for the entertainment value. And the way I'm curious, I'm curious on his take because of Kumiya. I wonder if he'll take a difference of opinion. I'm curious. Yeah, they don't tend to see eye to eye when it comes to politics. And the world is laughing at us today. But I just looked at it as entertainment, and I was so entertained last night. Alright, so OPI says, I don't care who wins, these guys are all clowns, it doesn't matter, and I'm just enjoying the ride.

And then later on in the show, he says this. To be serious for a moment, it was deeply depressing that that's where our politics are are at. Well why don't you just be fucking real with us Opie? I hate people who say I don't even care these it doesn't matter everyone's an idiot and then but to be honest with you I'm actually really upset about it and concerned that things are bad. Well you gotta pick one or the other you can't do both. Have a take dude you don't even have a fucking take. How are you a radio host or a podcast host? And your take is, I don't give a shit, and this is really upsetting, and I'm depressed about it.

That's not a good take. That's the opposite. And then OP decides to read questions that are nonsensical and stupid. Who wins a fist fight? I mean, I think when I honestly, I think Biden wins a fist fight. I think Biden wins the fist fight. I think Biden wins the, you know, the bike race. Biden is a 77 year old feeble man.

Trump's got 150 pounds at him. What are you talking about? He wins in a fist fight. This should be over so goddamn quick. Shout out to the great Anthony Cumian who's given so many comics, so many platforms with compound media. And I'm listening.

I'm not a political guy. I'm a middle guy, but I will tell you right now. Listen, hope he's retarded. I'm not a political guy, I'm a middle guy, but I will tell you right now, listen, hope he's retarded. Howard Stern, his show sucks right now. We all agree, right? It's not good. It's terrible.

But at one point, I'm telling you, he was a powerhouse. Like to rest right out, like it was undeniable. When he was already, he was a fucking amazing show. That's the reason why you're here. I'm here because of Howard Stern. Howard Stern was undeniable, but it's embarrassing how people just forget where they came from or who made them who they were.

Even people on your comment chats, you read it, whatever, you can't forget where you came from. You can't forget where you came from. So, Opie, you just said he's a retard. I'm gonna take it one step further. He sounds like he sounds like a twitch streamer. Now, forget the fact that this is Opie from Opie and Anthony, multi-millionaire radio guy who surpassed almost every other radio guy who tried to do this morning show format and just listen to him crack himself up over this.

Can you imagine if that's what happened last night? Can you imagine also they said fuck this and they went to the center of the stage and just started fucking throwing haymakers at each other? And then Trump said fuck this and then just sat on Biden and then Chris Wallace is sitting there and going, what do we do now and that everyone's side comes running out to help their guy and they can't get truffle I'll fight it He sounds like a child

There's a childish fantasy that he was just having on his show give me Procter so Neil Lucy K. Bill Burr Anthony Cumie and Jim Norton. I'll tell you right now. I have the number one Radio show in the world. Right. That's all you need. Right. Give me those. Give me Bill Burr, Louis CK, Anthony Cumia, Jim Norton, and guess what? I will rule the world. OPI literally had millions of listeners while he was playing Candy Crush on his phone. And why he thinks that he would get fired from firm serious exam and start up a successful podcast is beyond me like you said narcissism just make any sense like Opie you didn't do anything you don't do anything you sound like a true so you'll Louisie K billber gym

northern Anthony Komiya you rule the world well let's not forget another guy who was a regular on the old Opie Nathanae show is Joe Rogan. Have you ever heard of this guy? Yeah, the guy who signed that fucking. Yeah, I mean, I would do it really well. Open you well. Opia is so jealous of Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan's the king of podcasting and opi is not even in the conversation. He's not even a topic to discuss. So somebody in his chat says what we should do is have the debate where Joe Rogan is moderating. And of course, this has been brought up even Trump tweeted that he would do it a four hour show with Joe Biden on Joe Rogan show. So OP you can tell does not like Joe Rogan at all. And he gets a little triggered by this.

Rogan debate would be awesome though. Why? Cause he's the it guy. What would Rogan bring to this, uh, this debate? So obviously does not listen to Joe Rogan. He has no idea. Well, why? Cause he's the it guy. He's the guy. No, because he has an amazing package. He's the most listen to podcaster and he does a straight interview show with people. He's already done listen to podcaster and he does a straight interview show with people He's already done this with different people who go in there and debate on different topics He's amazing at it. He does his research. He knows it shit. He keeps the conversation going That's why you'd have Joe Rogan do this why cuz he's the it guy some tired of here people talk about Joe Rogan

Well get used to an asshole. He's the king of podcasting and you suck Well, I've heard Joe Rogan said I was funny on a podcast, which I'll use as credit. And I will be with Tim Dillon October 20th and 21st at Side Splitters in Tampa. If you want to come see me because Tim was on Rogan recently. Yeah, so I just want to put a plug in. I was going to mention that because I heard you plugged that on your show. Tim Dillon is my favorite podcaster right now. He's fucking hilarious. And that love. I love really cool that you guys are are doing a show together.

If you're well, he worked his way up and the right way. Like he was a guy who was just struggling and he did his thing and now he's the fucking treasure selling out shows. And I love that. And he's not like a right or left. He just a guy who's calling out bullshit like you are Yeah, he's a he's a really funny guy his show is endlessly entertaining to me and you're calling out bullshit You're calling out bullshit, which is beautiful. That's why I'm here. I love it Like I'm attracted to people like you like we are the last fucking well he can like you are the guy Thank you. I'm bullshit. Thank you calling out bullshit

Yeah, we we try to not roast the ones we love but roast the ones who deserve it. It's kind of our motto. Yeah, man So if you've already mentioned that your podcast isn't very good. So when you talk to Tim Dunk and you tell him to do our podcast For Carl from the one at the GP. He's done mine. Well, he's done mine one time. Okay. And I want to do mine now when he's like, so now everywhere. Yeah, now he's doing Joe Rogan. He doesn't really have time for that shit. He's been a Rogan like nine times. So like, I'm like, do mine. So he's been on my podcast. So I toss him. Listen.

So there's one episode to listen to from your podcast. I I've had guys like I had Norman on and Bert and all the fucking players for all you comedy fans. They're all been on Bert Kreischer. Yeah, did he do this? Yeah, I'm not a big burfan. Yeah, now it's a cond. He's all marketing. I love this guy. I was a trader for the show. What are you going to do?

Like, not let me open for you. We're done. You're a nice lady, but you're a fucking bitch. You're a terrible comic. You're not good. You're marketing.. You're marketing. It's all marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, sure enough drinks, blah, blah, blah, it's marketing, marketing. You wake up every morning going, oh, how do I market

this? How do I market this? That's it? That's your life. He's not a bad person, but he's marketing. I will say this about Birdcrisher. He has the machine story that is hilarious and he's not that not really. If you look at the machine story, it's not that good. It's pretty good. That good. Hold on. Let me get to my fucking point.

Can you, can you yes, and for a half a second over here? And pond. And pond. Oh, I still have that out of the board. I just, I just like that. And pond. No, he has, he has one story that's entertaining and funny. He's milked that.

What's surprising about Bert is that you can't get away from him. He's on everyone's podcast. He's got 3000 podcasts and he hosts himself. He's constantly putting out content. I reviewed a show recently where he's eating peanut butter on a podcast, which is by the way, eating food on a podcast sucks, eating peanut butter is the worst thing you could possibly eat

on a podcast. And this is where he's putting out his content and somehow he's still very popular. I cannot figure it out. I will tell you this now, I used to open for bird. I'm a guy. I know him. I know him very well. I have his phone number. He's not fun to hang out with because he's just looking at his phone the whole time like that He's he's recording himself or looking at Twitter like that's what it is. I'm sorry guys. I know you I'm I'm raining on your parade about the machine and Listen, he's not a bad he's not a bad guy. He's not but he's a fucking Narcissus who wants to be famous. That's all he wants to be it's not about comedy He doesn't care about the comedy vehicle to get you there.

He pretends he does, but he doesn't. Cause David Tell is the best comedian of all time. He is. He is. And for me, like, I'm like, I'm team of tell. Bert Christchers is marketing. He just wants to be famous. So fuck Bert, if this ruins my career, I'm fine.

I'm good. I did very well. I love this podcast. This is great. I love it. Yeah. Bert, calm. He's a con. Christchurch, done speaking. I live in Tampa. By the way, I live in his hometown. I know my Calta. I'm here. I'm around. It's so funny. You say that while you're hanging out with him, he's looking at his phone the whole time. He does that when he has guests on his show. He got called.

He's not fun. We reviewed his show. His guest was talking, he goes, are you just gonna read your taxes? Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Sorry. He's not fun to hang out with, dude. Like he's not drinking beers and doing shots.

It's all like marketing. I'm like, what the fuck is going on, dude? Like I'm trying to party with you and you're not party and we're in Nashville. We're in fucking Nashville with the staff and he's looking at his phone I'm like, let's do some shots. Let's party. It's all marketing. It's all bullshit. So speaking of comics who Like to show off the drink a lot and aren't funny. ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The Drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] Gakyah! ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't funny"] ["The drink a lot and aren't presidential debate. He did a show with Hell Sparks where they watched the debate live and then discussed it a little bit afterwards. And I'm going to play a couple clips from that. We're going to do a little game here. And this is from the Noah

Genda show is who started this game, but it's called drunk or not drunk. Now, Southern John is watching the debate with hell, which is what, six o'clock Western time he's in LA. I think it started at nine o'clock here. So it wasn't that late. It would have gotten over by like seven thirtiesh out in LA. And you watch John downcourt's lights and smoke weed during the entire debate. And then when it gets done, you hear John give his hot takes on it. But I have a lot of reasons to agree to it.

But here's the problem. See, this is what America should say to themselves. Donald Trump is not adhering to any of the number of, not adhering to any of the, uh, no, not to herring to any, any of the rules. Mm hmm. But his supporters will go, yeah, he just bullied him. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

We've listened to a lot of Stuttering John clips on this show. He has wasted. You know what, Carl? Like I, I don't want to shoot on John. Like I know Chrissy mayor does that to like, she's trying to like, what? Like position herself to move forward. And I know you guys have this thing., she's trying to position herself the move forward. And I know you guys have this thing. He's always been cool to me.

I can't shit on him. I understand Chrissey Mayor is trying to make a name. She wants to be famous and she will never be. He started this as a Chrissey Mayor segment. But John's like a nice guy man and me providing me a lot of entertainment when he was on Howard Stern And he's done very well for himself. So I can't shit on the guy. He's been cool to me He's promoted my shows like you who retweet whatever show I'm on so Retweet that's the greatest thing you could get

But you know what people come out. So, I don't know. I'm, I'm, you know, I like difference of opinion. Chrissy Mayer speaking of her had Mitch Fatel on her show recently. And I heard about this. Okay, I have a couple clips here. Rich Mitch Fatel was an intern at the Howard Stern show. He had to leave his internship six months in

because he crashed his car and no one can get to the car. By the way, no one's talking about Mitch Faitel. Nobody in radio or comedy. He's not on no one's radar. Well, he made a name for himself. Like, which Faitel is it? He had a good, he had a good time.

He did, he did. Well, but he's done. It's over. Like, the fact that he's calling it Chrissy Marisho means he's done. Faradah, that's that my point. My point is that he's calling it Chrissy Marishow means he's done fair enough. That's that my point. My point is that he knows Southern John. They went to NYU together and what happened was when he could no longer enter

an Howard Stern, he introduced Southern John to the Howard Stern show and got him that gig. Mitch Betel is responsible for stutter, bringing Southern John to the fucking world. Okay. So if you have a problem, Mitch Betel, that's world. Okay, so if you have a problem, which way you tell, that's probably a good, good reason to have a problem with him. But I just thought that was funny. He was on Chrissy Mayer's show and talking to him.

Let's go ahead. Go ahead. By the way, Chrissy Mayer is winning by the way. Like no one should be talking about mediocre comedy, like Chrissy Mayer. Like why are we doing this? Like she's smart,

she's a hard worker, but nobody gives a fuck about Chrissy Mayer. Go ahead, roll the clip. Dude, if you enjoy shooting on Chrissy Mayer but nobody gives a fuck about Chrissy Mayer. Go ahead, roll the clip. Dude, if you enjoy shooting on Chrissy Mayer, check out our episode entitled Chrissy Mayer. Know what shit's like Chrissy Mayer more than I do, all right? Don't you worry about that, but we made up recently. So this is Mitch on Chrissy's show,

talking about Cedric John. John. Oh, right, because he went on to announce the... I think anyone expected John, including himself and his parents to do much. And all of a sudden he was really famous. I think that's pretty funny. Nobody expected John to do much. Not himself, not his parents. Even though John goes out and says it's second grade. I got an A. I knew I was going to be famous. Chris, he's been doing Santa for 10 years.

She's a nobody. She got in with Kumiya. We're giving her a bout. But we're giving her respect because of Kumiya. Like she's nothing. Like what the fuck is going on? Chad, know what is shit I Chrissy Bayer more than I have. I'm the kick of shitty I Chrissy Bayer.

That's not the point. We're doing a Saturday Judgment. I'm Chrissy mayor. That's not the point. We're doing a century John segment. I know. Damn. But this is why this is getting downloads. Why? Because of Chrissy mayor? What are you talking about?

No, this is, by the way, if you listen to radio or to restaurant radio, there's never a difference of opinion. It's always like, yeah, he sucks. Fuck, Trump, blah, blah, blah. I'm telling you right now, Chrissie Mayor is a cont. I'm trying to get famous. He's trying to get famous.

He's really a good to be famous. But she's not a good stand up, but she doesn't care how she gets there. She wants to be fit in her husband or brother, whatever the fucking situation is with her. That's a boy, Fred. Yeah, Frank. And I hear he's a nice guy.

I don't know. I don't give a fuck, but they want to position her to be famous, but it's over. It's done. So I'm telling you right now, I'll say this because we're very honest here on W ATP. Sure. Let's talk. I love you. I don't know that you can say it's done.

I think Chrissy of anything is on the rise And I'm not saying she's famous or that she's killing it or anything else but I can't like Twitter followers, but who gives a fuck? She's doing a comedy show in Atlantic City this weekend with the rest of the compound comedians. Yeah, it was Anthony Cume Yeah, so she's in with that she's in with that crew, so that's a good place to be. Yeah, because no one wants to be with Anthony because it's like obviously the whole right-wing bullshit politics. So she's trying to make a name for herself and it's just not happening.

It's gone. It's over. Like, there's nothing there. I sent her clip of her laughs to a very famous comic. I'm not going to name her name. Okay. But they're like, she's terrible. Like, oh, she's not going to name her comic. gonna name her name. Okay. But they're like, she's terrible. Oh, just name her comic.

Just name her name. It's fun. It's more fun than you do. I know you want that. Of course you want that. I would put it on my podcast. My shitty podcast. You said the same thing on your podcast. You work in a neighborhood name. I wouldn't name her name, but I'm not going to, but it's just like, she's not a good comic. Like, it's like, and she's not a bad person.

I'm just saying she's like, stop. You're like, just go away. Work at FedEx. I can't believe how much you hate Chrissy bear. What is this all about? I don't hate her. I don't hate her. What?

What do you mean you don't hate her? I just don't, she doesn't play ball. Like it's a weird thing. Like when you like, I troll people when it's a back and forth, it's fun. There was no fun with her. So I'm like all right. She's a cunt I don't hate her. He just took over my show and made it the Chrissy Mayor bashing show I don't even know I don't know She's trying to make a name off a stuttering John which is your you know, she's trying to make her thing

Well you guys are good at it. Yeah. She's not. So I want to play one last clip from Chrissy Mayer's show. And this is Mitch says that Chrissy, you're a good interviewer. By the way, I'm having fun with this. Oh, good. Me too.

Mitch says you're a good interviewer. And then Chrissy thanks him for that and says no one's by the way no one's talking about Mitch fatally Nobody gives a fuck about him. He's done I like what he had his weird thing. No, I'm telling you the truth. I'm just telling you the truth I'm gonna try I'm gonna try to set the up this clip for the 15th time Mitch made Dal says the Chr Chris is a good interviewer. And Chris he goes, oh, so you're not upset that I wrote down questions to ask,

because of course, John ripped on her for having questions written down. And Mitch has a great take after that. I thank you for not getting upset that I took notes about you and I was reading questions off of a paper. So. Oh no, I did that when I do my podcast. That was a stuttering John got upset that I was reading questions off of a paper. So. Oh, no, I do that when I do my podcast. That was a stuttering John got upset that I was reading questions off of a notebook.

It's like, he didn't even know what show he was doing of mine. Stuttering John gets upset that when he looks in the mirror, he's stuttering John. That on the entire world because of that and yell at everybody and make everybody feel bad. And I don't know who's I'm like a man. Yeah. Yeah. Little things to him, but I'm going to enjoy. Now, all right, you can say Mitch Faitel is over and no one pays attention to him anymore. I don't know that he's out there talking should about a lot of people like you and I are. And he's saying that John is self-loathing so much he's taking it all

out on the rest of the world. I think that's kind of funny. I think that's a little bit notable. Yeah. Listen, I don't agree with John's politics at all. Like, I'm not on board. Do you think he's funny? Do you think he's funny?

Have you ever listened to a show or watched his YouTube? No, I have not. Okay, so you're like everybody else. I'm just like, I know him from the Howard Cernso show and he was very funny on that show. All right, I'm feeling like, I know him from the Howard Sterns show and he was very funny on that show. All right, I'm feeling like we're not going to get through this stuttery jazz segment. I think I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to,

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And that was a good rule to have because it doesn't get you anywhere. He's great. And everyone loves him. Right. And if, if John has been good to you and you want to pretend that he's talented or good at what he does, then we're not gonna have a lot to talk about because he's the worst.

I will say this to you. He's been cool to me and nice. I don't watch his comedy, I don't listen to his podcast, but he's just nice and I love the old school Howard Cern show. So that's where I go off of do whatever you want, man. Like I'm not a sensor guy, like keep going, bro. Like if you hate him, let's roll. I, listen, I don't hate Suttering John,

which is weird, I should, because the guy has been nothing but a threat to me. He's threatened to sue me and to have hitmen come after me. He says, he says, I know where you live. He says I've got this guy's number. I'm gonna take care of shit behind the scene. So I really should have a problem with this guy. Like I don't like Opie.

I don't like Opie. Like Opie's a piece of shit, so I get it. So I'm not like mad and I understand like, so yeah, you know, what do you have to do? So I get it. All right. I'm here. All right, let me say this. Let me put it this way, you know, do what you have to do. So I get it. All right. With you here. All right.

Let me, let me, let me say this. Let me put it this way because maybe I can win you over because you just said, I don't know if John's funny. I know from that research show. He's a nice guy. He's not a nice guy. He goes after Chrissy mayor in the same way he went after me. This is him talking.

What? Chrissy mayor came after me. So it's like, hold on. Listen to the clip. And then we can discuss it. Shorty one, I tune to her podcast only once and that's because you were on. After the way she treated you, I never gave her another shot. Yeah, I don't want to give her any air. I mean, she's a despicable, horrible person who retweeted pictures of my kids and disparaging

them. And you know, anybody who does that is a real, real horrible person. But I'm glad that if she's still trying to carry this on, then I'm gonna continue my attacks on her behind the scenes. And she should know better than to screw what a guy like me, because I'm the last person that you wanna screw with.

This is the same shit he used to say about us. We're gonna take turns behind the scenes. I'm the last person that you want to screw with this is the same should he used to say about us We're gonna we're taking turns behind the scenes. I'm the last person you want to screw with like real menacing types of threats Not normal. I think this person sucks and Chrissy mayor can go fuck herself like that normal shit like that He's like I'm not gonna talk about it. We're taking care of this behind the scenes. What kind of shit talking is that? I don't know if that was like Howard's turn ofinging because Howard Stern show was all about that toxic craziness. So I have no idea. I don't know. He's just been nice to me. I don't know.

He retweets my tweets. I don't know. I'm gonna weird because he's like, I'm gonna like just do it a bit now. He's retweeted my tweets. He's retweeted my tweets. He's retweeted my tweets. He's like,

I'm gonna make myself song. And's kind of the main stuff, so. And I love, I can't, like even already, already is a piece of shit, but already was my influential reason why I got in a stand-up and I can't shit on them. Like, I know he's like heroin addict and he's a fucking loser, but he meant something to me. So I don't know, like John, he did something.

And like Chrissy mayors like, who is she? Like compared to like John, I know you guys hate him. I get it, but I don't get it. Don't hate him. I just said that. I should and I don't. What we do on this show, Chad, is we point out that people suck at podcasting.

He sucks at podcasting. He sucks at podcasting. He might be the worst. And all these at the back, so that's impressive. There's no hate going on here. It's a great episode. Dude, I think everyone will love this episode. People in the discord are like, this guy has to be trolling you. This is so fucked up.

I know he retweeted you. I got it. He's amazing. He's amazing. He retweeted you. got it It's amazing. He's amazing. He's a man. He's a retweeted deal If anyone takes a difference opinion they get weird they just get weird No, no, no, no, no, you're not making a good argument chat That's not a diverse opinion. I'm playing you clips and you're like I don't care I don't care. He I like him. He's a nice guy. He's nice to me. I like that was Stern show. That's not a good opinion

You're missing the point That's not a good opinion. You're missing the point. I don't know. I have a weird, like, I don't know what it is. Like, if you're cool to me, like, I'm cool. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, that's fine.

Listen, I get it. Which is why I tried to give you an out 30 minutes ago. I know. I totally get it. I want to hate Southern John like you do. I'm out. Whatever. All right. I feel to hate Stuttering John like you do. I'm out, whatever. Ha ha ha. All right.

I feel like we have covered it all today. I had a ton of fun talking about our buddy Benjamin Borstein. We talked about O.B. We talked about Stuttering John and Chrissy Mayor. So that means it's time for everyone's favorite part of the show. Long team. Long team.

Long team. Long team. Long team. Long team. Long team. Long team. Long team. The team. This is the part of the show we play a clip from the podcast that we'll be reviewing on next week's W ATP. I'm just going to tell you right now because we're still doing joctober. We're going to be reviewing the Eric Zane show podcast.

And there's a very specific reason why we're going to be covering Eric Zane. Here's the clip. I've struggled finding, you know, an army of podcasts that I can listen to very, very rarely. Do I find anything that's like, God, I, I gotta listen to this. And I stumbled upon one while it was on vacation, and I, I think it kind of, uh, I think what the Apple podcast app does is it just says, uh, you might like this. And I see one. And, uh, it's, uh, it's, the show is called, who These Podcasts? Oh! And I didn't know what the hell it was and I click on the description. And this dude is, it's a podcast review show.

And holy shit, is this brutal. This is why it scares me and entertains me at the same time. So this is a suggestion that came over from a guy named Garrett. And he recently sent this over and I'm an asshole because I didn't realize that Eric Zane sent this to me back in July. The guy himself said, hey, I discovered your show. I want to have you on my show. I totally missed it because I'm an idiot. And I now I have to play yet another clip. This is the podcast that we'll be reviewing next week with Andy So and I've thought about doing this in podcast form to shows like just find a show listen to it and then highlight

Low points if you will highlight the low points and have fun with it But I couldn't really hone in on how I wanted it to sound. And now I'm not there's no way I would ever try it because it's already been done by this dude. His name is Carl. I don't know a lot about Carl. I've tried to find out his background, but I'm struggling.

All I know is that he's funny as shit. And insulting and just a fucking sniper when it comes to ripping people who are doing a podcast, a new asshole. Oh, I like this guy. He's gonna make it a little bit tougher. But this guy is an X radio jock, he puts out, I think five shows a week. I think this guy is putting out a ton of content.

So we'll be checking out the Eric Zane show podcast next week's WOTP and I'm looking forward to that. Chad Zumak, thank you so much for taking the time. I know that you're in St. Louis. Our show is going to come out tomorrow. And what other... Kansas City, I apologize. So what other shows do you have coming up?

People can check you out at Hey guys. Thank you so much. I'm a big fan of this podcast shout out to everyone who talked about shout out to Chrissy mayor across John Menendez Is it Menendez? Jaimowendez

Melendez either ways. Thank you for everything and listen follow me on social media on my Instagram chat I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend.

I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend.

I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. I'm a legend. You know, Kumi has been very nice to me. Opie's been very shitty. That's what it is. Like, I don't know what to say. Like, I'm being honest right now. And I hope you enjoyed this podcast.

If you'd love who are these podcasts, leave a five star review on iTunes. They've been very, like, I've been on a treadmill listening to these guys. So they've been very good to me and very cool. And they give me a lot of entertainment. So thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Dude, I appreciate you coming on. And thanks for reaching out and doing this show. This has gotten Jack to over off to a fantastic start. I couldn't be at the end. I'm going to kill it by the way. You're going to remember to be amazing. Yeah, I hope so. I hope so, buddy.

Like Donald Trump, amazing. Best co-casing the federal time. Well, Chad, we'd love to have you back on again sometime soon. My friend, thank you so much for coming on the show. Shout out, brother, weeze, shout out. What's coming on? Oh, so please, join us again next week. It might be the episode we found out what's for all.

Who are these podcasts? Leave well, everybody. Starting in the must-vis of Morning Radio. Day down to show these clothes right now. Hmm. OK. Great show. Good job, everybody.

Great job, everyone. 1.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5%

2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% I don't know. I don't get it. Makes no sense. Alright, we're ready to introduce our brand new review girl. Are you there? Man practice guy what's up buddy? I'm excited to have you how could you do better than Vic you say while we figured it out

It is band practice guy now. I'm gonna call a little bit of an audible here I know that we were gonna have you on to read some reviews and do some voicemails But actually I have more whtp to get to I had to I had it with juke because someone was stopping me from doing the show Train wrap. Yeah, it's fine. Honestly, I don't So, train wreck. Yeah, it's fine. Honestly, I don't buy it. I mean, we should change things up from time to time. It's okay.

If you want to, are you? Yeah, make it a shady show everyone that will want it. That would not, right? Oh, right. It's not like, people don't realize that doing this show is so easy. I need someone to stand in my way. I need it to be more difficult.

Thanks so much. Thanks so much for that. All right. I want to get through the rest of my Stuttering John stuff. And then Shameless has a brand new podcast and we have to talk about that. I'm so excited about it.

So this is Stuttering John again, after the debate show with Hale, he is wasted. Hey, guys, look. But here's the thing now, besides Chris Wallace Wallace. Now I thought Joe Biden did a great job of my own problem. And it shouldn't be a problem. Is that he's stuttered. And I know as a stutterer that people perceive a stutter as a sign of weakness. Like they think that you know, and I've experienced that all my life like growing up. You know Like they think that, you know, and I've experienced that all my life like, you know, enough. You know, they think that you might be stupid, you might be, you know, incompetent.

It's a John Lash down to the fact that Joe Biden was stuttering a lot during this debate and he's like, guys, really smart people also have a stutter. Like, me, I don't use yourself as an example. You're not helping out your case with that one How wasted does he sound he's doing the show in on his YouTube channel and hell's doing the show at the same time on his YouTube channel and At one point Sittering John realizes that nobody's watching him on his channel Yeah, you know, let me ask question. Why do you think there's nobody in my room right now? Because they're all over in my room because it's a party party party party. No, no, because I like I You know remove that you know the the bait clip and the soon

It's about everything right Why would you get that drunk and go on YouTube? Wow. That's insane. Oh, it's a thing that people tease you for as being a raging alcoholic at the age of 55. You would think that maybe you would do a show at noon and then go get wasted.

But no, this idiot just gets smashed. And by the way, Hill Sparks, I did some research on this guy because I didn't know a lot about him. Yeah, I don't know, I've never heard of him, I don't. He's never done drugs or drinking alcohol, drinking, drank alcohol in his life. This guy, and why he's putting up a centering job, I have no idea what that he does, I'm glad that he does.

But it actually goes further than him just putting up with him. He's actually going to go over to John's house and set him up because his podcast is so terrible. He has somebody technical issues. Hail says, dude, I will come over there. We'll get you set up right. We'll figure it out. And this is what's stuttering John says to that. So yeah, we'll make that happen. Yeah, but just don't laugh about how dirty that my place is because I'm not married and I can, I mean, I don't, I don't have a wife anymore to clean up after me.

So it's a pigstuy. Wow. Wow, we've got the cat, the killed all the roaches and shit. At least it's got the roach killing cat. So that helps out a little bit. Holy shit. This guy is explaining on a YouTube show that my place is so disgusting. Please do not judge me for it. John or because this is four days before I should have come over clean your fucking house. You have Why not just clean up? Well, because I don't have a wife. How else would you possibly clean a place if you don't have a wife?

I've lived alone before producer Chris you live alone. Is it possible to clean your house without a wife? My place is very clean. It is very clean. How is that possible? Did you clean it? Oh Mr. Resolve you don't say. All right, so you heard how wasted he got what he was doing his show. And so I love that people are throwing him on the next show that he did and asking about his hangovers. White claw bitch out, do you have bad hangovers?

I don't have a hangovers. See, I don't drink as much as you people think. Like, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not sitting there guzzling bottles of vodka. You know, I mean, it isn't like that at all. I drink core's light. I mean, core's light. It's practically water. Yeah. So he doesn't realize it just because it's low in alcohol content. Doesn't mean drinking 18 of them won't get you drunk. And I like that white claw bitch out is like, oh, how do you deal with your hangovers? I never get hungover. And I give white claw a lot of credit on this one. Like a very good reporter would do. He has a follow up question. This is what a professional reporter does. White claw bitch out. You didn't have professional reporter does. Uh, white club bitch out.

You didn't have a hangover. You have to show up these, you show with how that's amazing. No, I didn't. I didn't at all. Yeah, right. He was black out. He drunk on the internet. Of course he had a hangover if you don't stop drinking.

I mean, he could drink it. Well, that's a good point. He might just get up and start drinking a garden. In which he's drinking over. No, no, no, no, that's a good point. He might just get up and start drinking a garden in which in which he would do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no pub chewing a crap. And we named our shows something other than the podcast that we were reviewing. Chewing the crap would be the title of this episode. I just like that you and the crap with my friends. What?

What a disaster. After they do the wrap up to the debate, the two of them are talking, then John mysteriously goes away and how's it going, well, John, where'd you go? What happened? So John's technology all malfunctioned and he couldn't figure out.

And so, hell's trying to explain to him how to get back on. John calls him on his phone. This is gonna be a little bit hard to hear, but this is hell explaining that John is like his mother little bit hard to hear, but this is hell explaining that John is like his mother when it comes to technology. No, I just went on it. It's still like two hours now. It keeps, it's still ticking. Like you're not there, but it's still streaming.

So you have to go on your stream, you're gonna shut it down and send me a new link if you wanna start a new show. Oh no, I was just gonna talk if you want to start a new show. Oh, great. Yeah. Okay. Let me, um, I'll finish up in about 10 minutes and then I'll call you and we'll chat about it. Love it. All right. Talk to you later, man. Okay. Okay. Bye. Bye. So, west. It's precisely like getting a call from my mother on base time. Fucking just shut her down. I love that. He calls about on his show right afterwards.

He's just trying to reconnect so they can continue to broadcast together. And John's so wasted and out of his mind, he just calls the guy is like, oh, I just want to talk to you, you know, just you and me. This guy is sober. He doesn't want to talk to you right now. You're black out drunk.

Can only imagine what that conversation was like. All right. All right. Let's get into the important stuff. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me. Because that's absurd. I want to thank pro and everybody who participates in the shameless watch channel of our discord because I had no idea Patrick Michael has a brand new podcast. It is called the briefcase two words the brief case and apparently it's doing really well as he explained in his most recent episode. I am recording this episode while on the move because I made a commitment to you guys

where I said that there would be new episodes daily. And I feel like I'm committed to that. I'm committed to it. I want to give you guys new episodes every day, especially now that people are actually listening to this podcast At a consistent level Right Don't forget if you want to know when the new episodes drop follow us on Instagram That's right everybody Patrick Michael has a daily podcast

He puts it on every day Michael has a daily podcast. He puts it on every day. Oh, the secret, you know the book, the secret. Where if you already got to think about shit and it happened. Yeah, I have a vision board. And on my vision board, it just says, Patrick Michael daily podcast. And it came true.

Thank you, the universe. What a lot of Instagram, like pictures of the trailer and shit. Oh, you should go on there. I encourage everybody to never been there. Yeah, it's a brand new Instagram account because it's for this show specifically, but I encourage everyone to check it out. If you go to Instagram, it's briefcase podcast. You will find it there. And yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating. What's going on with this guy? In episode number 22, so each of these episodes is about 10 minutes long. He just wants to chat about something quickly and then get out.

Episode 22, for some reason he watched Willie Wonka, the original 1971 Willie Wonka in the Chalk Effectory movie. And so he wants to talk about that. So first off, this is his, and I want to point out, I had a boost his sound levels by 18 DBs. It is impossible to hear his show. He's been podcasting for years, he's a thousand podcasts. He still has not figured out how to create an audio file

that people could actually hear. So it's gonna sound like garbage. There's nothing else I can do about it. I gotta make it listenable. You gotta be able to hear the fucking thing. So this is this hot take on Willy Wonka. And now if you might recall, band prideous guy, Willy Wonka is a musical.

I've seen it. It's got some songs. It's a musical. You know, musicals work. Yeah, they like break some song. It's a musical. You know, you know, musicals work. Yeah, they like, they're like break into song. This is pet PM's hot take on that. But if you're straight singing at me, that's a form of violence, okay?

That's a form of violence. You're attacking me. I've had it happen. I have brothers that have have saying R and B tracks right to my face and it is uncomfortable. So imagine getting it being one of the few people that gets to go on tour in this, you know, uh, candy factory and the guy sings. I don't know. Six different times. I'd be angry. I'd be like, well, I'm good, dude. Can we just look at the candy and how it's made?

Why do you have to sing us a song every time? You know, won't because like, oh well, here's a set of stairs. I guess those stairs are an obvious sign that I need to bust in the song. Because you guys are obviously going to get it if I just say the word. Yeah, it's called a musical. I mean, do you really think this is a brand new take that you just came up with? Isn't it weird that people all bust into song? Yes, but that's how music goes to work.

That's why I'm not music. Yeah, and then you like murder children in there, isn't that more of a abuse than singing at them? Well, can you get murdered in that candy factory? Honestly, if they were singing like Patrick Michael sings, that would be more abusive. I should mention, I forgot to mention this last week. I went on the shitty song of the week, a couple of weeks ago, and it was Brandon and Jody B and myself, and we broke down

different Patrick Michael songs. We might have to bring in a whole Patrick Michael segment to W-H-D-P is just focus on his music, because it's really incredible. Some of the things that he's produced from a music standpoint. But yeah, check out Shitty's song of the week. That was a fun time hanging with those guys and listening to some of the other endeavors

that Patrick Michael has done from a creative standpoint. So this is Patrick Michael, shitting out his own point. I always like to point out when a podcaster is just rambling and they shoot out their own point. Back to walk it himself, not Gene Wilder, won't go. Okay, this is a grown adult man who lives in a place that makes candy. He lives there. He has to live there. Does he have another place to live? Maybe. Maybe. Wow, you just said absolutely nothing. And the answer to that is in the Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lives at the Chalka Factory. He's not commuting there. That's why it was a mystery what he looked like.

Nobody see this guy get out of his car. I don't know, baby. He does have an apartment. I don't know. I'm not sure. Baby's got a condo with Suthering Jen. I don't know. It's possible to say. Okay. So then he goes into speculating on how Willy Wonka even owns a Chalka Factory to begin with. Well, like I said, where did this even come from? Where did he get his candy castle? Where did this happen? Who gave it to him? Who started the company? Was it him?

He has come up with an idea about making candy and he had made one good piece of candy and he's like, well, we can definitely expand on this. And then somebody threw in some money with him. He had investors. How did it work? Yeah. Did he get a bank loan? What was the interest rate? What was the interest rate on the bank loan? How many? What were the terms of the bank loan? When, how did it work? Yeah, did he get a bank loan? What was the interest rate?

What was the interest rate on the bank loan? How many, what were the terms of the bank loan? When did he pay it off? When did he become solvent? These are great questions to have, Patrick. Great, great hot takes. Really enjoy that. All right, now it starts to really piss me off.

He's asking questions that are entered in this movie and are actually extremely relevant to the plot of the movie. If he understood how this worked at all, he would know the answers. It's like his whole life, he's just been waiting to invite outsiders into his castle, into his chocolate factory, which is very bizarre. That in itself is weird. Why would you wait so long? Why would you wait so long? Why are people not allowed inside? Seems like of all the places that people should be allowed, it should be the main factory in their town.

Not just free, you know, willy-nilly just running around, but... Dummy. How did that movie end call? What was the end of that movie again? No, the end of it is he gives his factory away. He's retiring. The reason why he waited that long is because he was going into retirement and was looking for someone to take over the chocolate factory. It's kind of like the whole point of the movie.

The other thing is he goes, why wouldn't he just let people into this place? Remember, the competitors are trying to steal his formulas. He had an everlasting gobst offer. How do you not know this? It's one of the major plot points It's the reason why Charlie wins the factory Hey, are you fucking kidding me? Why don't they just look people in there?

Why is it her? She's in there out of tour. There's a really specific reason for that. He doesn't know Oh, he's shit Carl. I know you're still upset about the Cubs, but Holy shit. Carl, I know you're still upset about the Cubs, but I'm taking it out. I'm taking it out of Patrick like that. You know, Chad really enjoyed a difference of opinion. I fucking hate this movie. I just want you to know that. Fair enough. And I'm not saying that I'm proud of the fact that I like this movie, but I do like this movie. So now let's get into the marketing of this. You okay over there? Let's get into the brilliant marketing angle.

The Patrick Michael talks about. It's such a brilliant idea or way to brand your product. Not even just brand it, but to mass produce it or make people more invested in having it, because let's just say Hershey's top candy makers still are right and Willy Wonka not a real guy but the Wonka candy company really wanted to be noticed so they said what what better way to do that than write a movie 100% promoting the candy 100% promoting the candy holy shit dude all right I'll explain this. It's kind of public knowledge. I think everyone kind of knows this. But this is a movie based

on a book that was written in 1964 by Roll Doll. He invented Willy Wonka in the book. This was a made up candy company because it's a children's book. It's a children's novel. He made this up. And then Quaker Oats came to him and said, hey, we're gonna make this into a movie if we can have the rights to Willy Wonka so we can sell candy bars from it. So yes, it is a brilliant marketing vehicle but not in the way that you're speculating

and this is all very easily found out. You could research this and figure it out very, very easily. I don't think he even realizing this is based on a book because any talks about the Johnny Depp reboot of this movie and it's wildly confused about it. So here's my next issue with the whole thing. As they went and they made, they made a whole other movie where Johnny Depp is portraying Willy Wonka very weirdly and they don't expand on the story because they call it Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And in my mind I'm thinking well if this is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, shouldn't Charlie be the Gene Wilder

of the story? I guess what I'm saying is you you kind of hope that the story would continue. What a fucking moron the book was called Charlie and the Chalk of Factory they changed it to Willy Wonka because it was a marketing vehicle for Quaker Oats to put out their fucking candy called Willy Wonka. He goes I can't believe this wasn't a sequel you didn't know both of those movies are based on the same fucking book Who doesn't know that I was kind of hoping they'd have a different angle on it like maybe it felt Charlie around By the way, there is a sequel. It's called Charlie in the great-glass elevator

And there is a book that you can go and read if you really want to know the fuck happened with Charlie entry took over the chalk a factory If you're that interested in the car Sir I'm a really walkable. I know we did a podcast about this. He knows nothing about it Listen the cops couldn't put up one fucking run yesterday They could score to one run by as a striking out in the ninth of the runner on second Of angry all right last thing I want to talk about with Patrick Michael is he starts to talk about the Uploopas. And he's upset because you could tell

that this town that this factory is in has low employment levels. They probably should be hiring people who are local to the town. And yet this asshole is only hiring these Uploopas. He doesn't understand how this works at all, but he wants to have a hot take out it. Seems like a lot of people around that area

were pretty poor, and one of the biggest places making the most money is hiring little people. Pretty ruthless. Kinda makes you think Wonka was a dick. He's like, yeah, I don't want anybody over four foot three. What the fuck? I mean, everybody who was little was excited about that. But then you also have to think.

Did he just want children? Because he made them dress the same. He made them choreograph songs. I mean, it seems very abusive. This is a guy who actually watched this movie recently and he's not understanding. They're not little people. They're OPPO-LOOPAS from LOOPOLAND. How does he not know that? He actually saved these people because LOOPOLAND was a terrible country. The Wang doodles would eat them. They'd have time for breakfast. How does he not know that? These are important plot

points in this movie. He's like, they just hired little people and dressed him up. I don't think he's getting this at all. Because then he also even just called them Oop-o-loop-o's instead of, I don't know, people. Right? That sounds like kind of like a slur. They were Oop-o-loop-o's, they weren't people.

That's why they looked that way. You fucking Oop-o-loop-o? You know what I mean? That sounds kind of bad, dude. And here we got this guy got this guy this iconic movie character this iconic movie place and this guy is hiring people That he's calling oompa oompa's he's making them orange Die in their hair greens He's not understanding this and he didn't pick up anything up from this children's movie based on a children's book. He's not figuring it out.

Oh, he's shit. I can listen to him talk about really walk all day. Alright, maybe I was a little too upset there, but I'm very excited. The point is, the briefcase, the new Patrick Michael vehicle is out there. I am sorry, pardon my terrible manners, band pride this guy, you came on here to do our reviews here, the first review person since Vic, let's get into it. Let's read some reviews. I heard you all start off with, if AIDS was a human being, remember when Lailie's came out with wild potatoes, chips with oleed, the with o-lein,

the fat substitute that gave you anal leakage as a bonus to eating fat potato garbage? W-A-T-P is like a crapping that comes out right before your anus explodes. So, I just wanna give you some feedback here, bad practice guy. Yeah, that was a mess. You seem to read that.

I bring the energy. You read that pretty well. You had a lot of energy. I don't think you're understanding what we're we're going for it. I mean, did you even pay attention to Vic when she would read reviews? She'd stumble on every other word. She didn't seem like she wanted to be there. Yeah, I wanted to try and bring it up a level. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're being a little you're being a little tryhard. If you ask me, I'm guessing that's a five star review is that true See it's

Let's try this again That phrase is let's try this again. Damn friends guy you get another one. Hey, there we go Well, wait a time. These two things. They are hilarious. They sound like a lemon old boy sitting in a tree house You just figure it out and record them record themselves and decided to just record themselves Biggest lot of people grow up kiddo Yeah, you're still Yeah, you're still way too much The problem is is that I feel like you're trying to do a good job

Yeah, yeah, I've been I mean I've been practicing all week. Yeah, it sounds like it It sounds like you know the material. It's not the first time you've read it. You didn't just pull out your phone. No, I've been reading that couple of times. You didn't just pull out your phone and have a screen grab on it and then stumble through it.

It sounds like you really like this job and you want to do a good earnest job at it. Yeah, yeah, that's what, yeah. Well, I got, I'm on a board right now, Carl, so. I need work, I need work. Oh, and it's coming off as desperate to All right, let's try this one more time. You got you have another review Yeah, here we go. Uh, fix your teeth. You stink ugly. I love that one. I go. See now. That's way too low energy See, oh, you're one of the middle. You're not

Bamp right this guy. I love you. Yeah, I love you. I want to continue to call in. You got an amazing catch phrase. The best ever made. It's even better than Ann Punt, but you're just not cut out for this job. I'm sorry. I hate to do this on the show. I hate to do this on the show, but you're fired.

You're done. It's working out. It's going to suck up my on it. It's going to suck up my on it. Pull on the benefits. Yeah, yeah, it is. And listen, dude, listen, dude, I am telling you, I am not gonna write a letter of recommendation for you.

You really screwed the pooch on this one. You let all of us down, producer Chris is really upset. He was going to bat for you all week. He's like, this is the guy who's gonna do it. Oh, a week, asshole. Oh, week he's been going to bat for you. I just got a new car alone, I just got a new car. I was banking on this job call. Oh, weak asshole. Oh, weak he's been going to bad for you. I just got a new car alone. I just got a new car.

I was banking on this job call. Yeah, too bad. I mean, we're not a charitable foundation here. I mean, I last at all your willy walk a jokes and jokes. And you're gonna find me. Okay, well that part, I do appreciate it. I need someone to do that. I need someone to do that.

Hey, band bread, this guy you fired good try the body Good try Go So continue to call the voice while that that's what you're best at that's really your niche So that means we need a review girl. We're still a need of a review girl next week. We're gonna have auditions We're still a need of a review girl next week. We're gonna have auditions We're gonna audition New review girls and we'll probably some some type of voting system So look forward to that next week. We'll figure out who our new review person is gonna be let's play some voice mails on here

You ready? All right, let's do it W-A-T-P Hey, what's up Carl? You greasy fuck. I'm just calling in to let you know that my girlfriend and I, we really love your podcast. She really likes the shaman segments. Every week she's like, hey, did they talk about shaman's? And, you know, the past few podcasts, you know, y'all been ignoring him or whatever, or he's talking about UFCfc and he gives a shit

uh... and i finally finally gave you five dollars that i earned by working my ass off and uh... i gotta say it was worth it all right listen to the uh... chemist extravaganza bananza whatever the fuck uh... and it was looking hilarious man i was driving almost like crashed

uh... when i heard the uh... uh... the animal crawled through people singing about on the dog when it comes to shitting and piss uh... and and i mean i was laughing so hard i i'm i'm i'm not even i was fucking crying in tears uh... i can't believe it's like the fuck you know like i was like in uh... drove a thousand know? Like, I almost fucking drove a fucking road, laughing, I should have fucking breathed, man.

That's all like George Floyd. All right Carl, you take it easy and once you give me a call back, love you, bye. Thank you so much for subscribing to our Patreon. We do put out some really good bonus episodes that I'm very proud of. And our most recent one was the Patrick Michael Extremakanzah. So go to our Patreon and check that out. that I'm very proud of and our most recent one was the Patrick Michael extravaganza.

So go to our patreon and check that out. Well worth the five to twenty five dollars a month. You can donate to support the show speaking of Patrick Michael. Here's a guy who was watching Vinnie's live stream when he had to listen to every single episode of Dead Town. And he had an observation. My god girl, you have to, you fucking have to review Dead Town episode four. And he had an observation. My God, girl, you have to, you fucking have to review dead count episode four. Famous quotes from the episode include,

how come you never see a ghost that looks like a bro? Yeah, it really is fascinating when you actually sit down and listen to these shows. You would think that I'm just really good at pulling clips. I'm not. It's just everything he says is Asinite and it makes it really easy to to goof on him Oh my god, we upset some indigenous people up in cana remember we did the native Kellgarian. Oh, boy Some people were upset with us on that one You racist piece of shit.

Uh, I have to tell you the most amazing news and I didn't prepare this and now I'm looking for it on our, uh, discord, no, our sub-reddit real quick is that woman responded. What was her name, Red Thunder Woman? She responded, it had an amazing sense of humor about it. is that woman responded. What was your name, red thunder woman? She responded and had an amazing sense of humor about it and was happy that we ragged on her and had a really good take on it.

It's amazing that this social justice warrior who's pissed at everybody, pissed at the world can is able to laugh off the fact that we call her the seward over and over again and yet still wearing John a comedian gets so upset when you goof on them. It really shows you what a piece of shit. John is but I was very excited that our friend our new friend Red Thunder woman had a good sense of humor about it that was awesome and yeah I don't know I can't find it now Chris it's gone but it was really nice. Oh

you got it can you read it to us? Oh you're gonna make me read it now Chris. It's gone, but it was really nice. Oh you got it? Can you read it to us? Oh, you're gonna make me read it? Yep. Oh, what a weirdo. Some Rando told me of this podcast that just devoted to making fun of my podcast. It was super funny to listen to. I've been waiting to be trolled like that, LOL. But for real, I'm glad I can annoy others as much as I annoy me, LOL.

So there you go, that's awesome. How fucking cool is that? I remember we made the comment that maybe she would have a good such a humor and join the show. Maybe we'll affid. Maybe she'll be odd and we'll guess it in a little bit more than some people do. Holy shit, all right, let's get to these words about some.

Klamic you, this is Fixed Japanese Stepfather and this is what I sound like. I was just calling to let you know VIX will be back after Pearl Harbor number two. So you got that to look forward to. Keep it a secret, the rising sun will rise again. Also, I wanted to clear up, I was the one that booked Stuttering John for Japan, but it wasn't for a comedy show. It was for Entire Nautilation. Number two, return of the Giga. All right, buddy,

keep looking to get your work. Not here later. It's well done under 40 seconds. Couple good jokes in there. Couple good show references. The word Giga is Japanese. Possibly is for all we know. Very good, uh, VIXJAPITY stepfather. That was well done. Uh, Imbassail Wilhelm, if anybody listens to the creep off that I do with my buddy, Vinny Paulino, they'll know this guy. He calls into the show a lot. He calls in to WATP.

Imbassail here. This message is not for the creep off. I am calling to nominate a new review girl. My sister, Villamina. Okay. Villamina. Oh, God. He's hit off and come here. I'm talking to the car. Here she is Hello, I am Villamina your review girl Carter he's on fat gay retard Thank you Paragon all right

Speaking of catchphrases all right. Well, that's one review girls put her hat in the ring Let's see who else is in the running for this. Hey, Carl, it's Teresa. Call him back. It's fucking again. Sorry, I've got bronchitis, so I saw him like shit. Anyways, no, I never said that I was going to be universally loved by everybody. I knew I was going to get some fucking shit, but yeah, no, that voicemail was fucking cringy as shit, so sorry to anybody who had to be exposed to that.

It's on a streak. But, yeah. Anyways, came up with an idea for an ad for your Patreon that you should do like some fucking bleeding heart, therm're a macloctal type thing like oh yeah there's this many fucking podcast started every day and please help us stop it or I don't know you're the fucking marketing person you figure it out but yeah have like PJ Dew a parody or some shit I don't know I'm off go run errands so I'm driving and trying to concentrate which I'm sure you guys don't know. I'm off to Gobernareans, so I'm driving and trying to concentrate, which I'm sure you guys don't give a shit. She says she had bronchitis and she's out running errands on an asshole.

Yes. She might be shudder than Vic. She's in the running. I think she might have a job. All right. Very good to reach. Yeah. We'll do the creative work on this end. But thank you for that. Appreciate it. Hey, Carl. It's Tucker Dickson here. I want to clear some things up. No, I am not actually

starting a podcast. I was making fun of the light fight design and their terrible questions that they didn't have prepared for. I thought I'd made that fucking obvious, but whoever wasn't crows last week didn't get that apparently. Hi, Grocer, I'd like you. Number two, no, I was not out on the street selling my body. This is not the 80s. This is 2020. If you want to see a picture of a 37-year-old man who looks like a 16-year-old boy who's

kind of fat, you can go to onlybamps.com slash Tucker Dixon. Tucker out. All right. Let's all support Tucker Dixon. Apparently we weren't picking up what he was putting down last week. So my apologies for that. I'll tell you, man, these shows they go for a long time. I start to lose it.

It's a fifth beer. Yeah. Well, as you'll notice, I probably wouldn't have been so excited about all of the interesting takes the Patrick Michael had. I will walk a had I not been going for two and a half hours up until that point. But I'm not making excuses. What are you going to do? Let's listen to got more voice.. Hey, Carly, I just finished listening in episode 215. You know, a voice mailer calling or a caller calling, not a voice mailer. Anyways, he talked about how he got fucked over on like three dates from girls who listen to

Caller Daddy when he brought you up. Well, I think he's pretty honest about that because I was talking to a girl on Tinder and she fucking mentioned that she listened to Caller Daddy and I asked her, is it oh, let's let show it to those horrors you constantly talk about sucking dick, right? I heard about that on W-A-T-P. As soon as I brought that up, she called me a misogynist,

big piece of shit, decided to block me and uh... yeah you fucking out of a date Carl fuck you kill yourself um coming back though we are the cock blocking his podcast out there sorry to uh tagline guys if you're talking to a girl who says she listens to call her daddy do not bring up wtp in fact don't bring up w're talking to a girl who says she listens to call her daddy, do not bring up W-A-T-P. In fact, don't bring up W-A-T-P to a girl ever under any circumstance. It will not help you in any way. We have three female listeners and one of them is MSL Wilhelm's sister.

So don't do this, I'm going to get you any crad with the girls. And also, that is a dog whistle when they say I listen to this horror podcast and they talk about being a horror it means she wants to be a horror. Just go with it. Oh, you listen to that podcast. It's amazing. They gave some blowjob tips. I can maybe give you some feedback.

That's how you, not, oh yeah, I heard someone trashed them. You fucking, God. I don't even have game and I'm giving them advice on this. Seems like it would go without saying. I think Ryan Long may have been the perfect guest for W-A-D-P. He shows up late. He clearly has never listened to the show before. He didn't even listen to the episode.

He's never listened to any music shows that Carl listens to every week. He's just barely like a half-way attention. Man, Ryan Long for fucking president president man has been back every week. Yeah, Ryan Long. I appreciate that he did the show. I'm a huge fan of it. In fact, I listened to his podcast with Scott Adams. And I enjoy Scott Adams as well.

I thought that was a fun listen. So check out the boys cast with Ryan Long. Hey, thanks for pointing out that Maxwell's back on the air is a podcast. This is great. He's playing the hits. This is amazing. Hopefully he takes your review kindly and we'll come on and shit on OP with you. Because I mean, that's all he did for his career here in Cleveland was shit on OP.

That's why we have boring, have a good one. I mean, I guess call me back if you want not an expert on this Maxwell references stuff. I don't know any more than you do, except if they were up against Opian Anthony in the afternoon, which you can see why that's a problem. All right, thank you for those insights. Really helped us out a lot there with that phone call. All right, Chris. That was an interesting episode today, huh?

Yeah, it was weird. It got a little weird. It got a little bit weird for a second there. That. Not sure why I'm not sure what I could have done I want to learn from that's not sure what I could have done to steer the ship better I'll take any feedback people have yeah, you'll be getting it This is it it's over. Okay. Goodbye Goodbye hey, bye. Goodbye.