Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep266 - Financial Feminist

Episode Date: July 4, 2021

Tori Dunlap is an expert at managing money and accumulating wealth. So much so that's she's able to make and save money even though she's a girl! Very impressive stuff. This week, Shuli had a family emergency and wasn't able to join us, but Vic was able to fill in and explain why women don't save their money. We also check in on Stuttering John's lawsuit before Dr. Steve comes on for the much anticipated analysis of Patrick Michael.  Support us and get bonus episodes: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Get tickets to our very first live show near Chicago on August 28th http://watplive.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But first, we'll be reviewing a show called Financial Feminist, her first 100,000. This is a suggestion from Ken in the review suggestions discord channel. Let's get into it. This is a show hosted by Tori Dunlap. And before we start playing clips, and I'm excited to play these Clips, I want to read the description of this show. Join Money Expert Tori Dunlap as she guides you on how to make more spend-last and feel financially confident in a world run by rich white men. Through soul episodes and special guest interviews, you'll walk away with resources to get safe

and grow money to gain financial freedom and kick some patriarchal ass at the same time. Yeah. She's not a fan of the patriarchy back. Did you pick up on this? Yeah, she really hates men. It's awful. She spent about like 40 minutes talking about how much

like men ruin the economy and how they don't leave enough room for women. So it's great. Well, she also said in her very first episode, which by the way, she recorded an entire season and then went back and recorded episode one. Did you listen to episode one, Vic? Yes, I did.

So she recorded that after she had already gotten the entire season in the can. So she comes back and she's like, guys, this is what the show is going to be. This is what I'm doing and it's fucking amazing. And I can't believe how good I am a podcasting and I can't believe how great all of this is. And you guys are so lucky that you're going to get to hear all this stuff. But she also says this.

I want the show to reach as many people as possible. I am here to help. All right. Tori, I want you to reach as many people as possible. I am here to help. All right, Tori, I want you to reach as many people as possible as well. So what's learned more about Tori? Who is she? I am a money speaker and educator, and I believe I was put on this earth to fight for women's financial rights. She's a money speaker and educator.

So I'm thinking, legitimately, she's probably hired to speak at conferences or organizations bring her in to lecture on money management. And she probably has a career doing this. She's now podcasting about it. And then right after that, she explains where she does this important work. I love the work I do on Instagram. I love the work we do on TikTok in these online communities, but 60 seconds is not enough. 60 seconds is not enough to talk about the things that I

want to talk about. I would agree. I would think it would be pretty difficult at a TikTok video to explain how financial independence works. Well, if you think about it, Carl, do women spend any other time except on Instagram or TikTok? Obviously not, because everything that I heard from this show was explaining how they learned about stuff from Instagram. Like you listen to that climate crisis episode. Oh yeah. And it was just so funny how they're explaining

how they learned about zero waste and this whole movement. Everything's a movement, do I in the show? They learned about the movement on Instagram. Like, of course you did. Of course you learned about it. Actually, I have that clip right here. Yeah.

So zero waste honestly sounds pretty like scary if you're just hearing it for the first time. You're supposed to make zero trash, what is that about? And so I found the zero waste movement actually on Instagram in 2017, just like, browsing in the world, found this thing about fitting your trash in a mason jar. That was the whole part of the movement. Putting your waste in a mason jar, if I see that Instagram, I keep scrolling. What are we

I'm in Vegas right now this woman would this woman by the way her name is Moji She would hate where I am right now. It's always all the time Moji was like oh, yeah, like I try to be like zero waste all the time except for like ice cream and chips So you know, she's just fat and she can't help herself with it with a little meat hands. I would say that fat people probably fart more and isn't that a problem for our environment and the climate crisis? Absolutely.

It's burning up our atmosphere, Carl. So let's get back to our friend Tori. Now she graduated college in 2016. So I like this because I feel like Vic, you're a similar age. So you only get the same generation. I believe you're the same gender as her. So you might have some insights and things I don't understand as part of the patriarchy. But she gets into how she was able to learn about financial information because a lot of people don't have this knowledge

that she has she's sharing with the world and I thought this was interesting. She learned it from her parents. Oh, okay. Well, what do her parents do that she was able to get a lag up? I literally saw my dad negotiate our cable bill once every couple couple months, my mom, still to this day does this. Balances the checkbook on the 13th and the 21st of every month. Honestly, I thought maybe they were money managers or like stock brokers or something. I didn't realize it was about like a checkbook. And be stupid.

No, it's just very simple shit. And she majored in theater. Of course she did. She can't even sell money so much, but she spent so muchored in theater. Of course she did. She didn't even have money so much, but she spent so much her fucking theater. Oh boy, so apparently, men are suppressing women's finances. This is the premise that she has here.

And I say just marry a rich guy. Like Mackenzie Scott is worth $53 billion. She didn't invent an e-commerce platform or a search engine. She just has $53 billion for marrying a dude. There's ways to do this. She's been told every day though, Vic. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off.

She's been told every day that she shouldn't even be talking about money. I can, I talk about money for a living now, and I get told every single day that she shouldn't even be talking about money. I can, I talk about money for a living now and I get told every single day that I shouldn't because it's tacky or it's greedy or it's in polite to talk about money. Um, what? If that's your job, it's not tacky. No one's telling an accountant they're being tacky. Well, on top of it, like talked about just marrying a rich guy, three different times in one episode.

And I was like, of course, you're gonna marry someone rich because that way you have extra money. Like, you have a fucking safety blanket. It's one of the only things this guy's have going for us. If we can make some money, it's how we get a little bit of credibility and get to talk to girls on Tinder, right? I mean, that's kinda how this all worked. Anyway, I of credibility and get to talk to girls on Tinder, right? I mean, that's kind of how this all works anyway.

I don't wanna get to into that. I just think it's funny, there's tons of people of jobs and finance and she's going, oh, it's taboo to ever talk about money. And why is it taboo? Who's making it taboo? And why is talking about money taboo? Well, I have a theory.

The talking about money is taboo narrative, is perpetuated by the patriarchy. The patriarchy being these racist, misogynistic, unjust, unfair, inequitable system or systems that exist. So women don't have money because of racism. I don't even know how she got there, but she got there quick.

That was impressive. Well, that's exactly it. You could always blame the patriarchy, and I think that's like a word she heavily relies on. Oh, she sure does. This is her explaining how the patriarchy is profiting. And so if we have the patriarchy telling us that talking about money is taboo. They are literally profiting off of our silence. And she's actually not wrong about this point, except for it's not the patriarchy. No one in America gets an education about finances. We're too busy learning about the patriarchy

to explain how the stock market works. Oh God, and we're too busy learning to like create new foods to eat, new chips, creations. Oh my God. I just thought this was so interesting that she's sitting here going, the patriarchy is all about keeping you down. And that's why all of these institutions are created the way they are. It's like, well no, no, no, no.

The Federal Reserve is not a patriarchy. I have nothing to do with it. It's keeping me down. It's keeping me down, dude. It's keeping everybody down. It's kind of the whole point of it. So she's almost there, except where she sees everything through this lens of women or suppress. It's like, okay, but also, so it's just about everybody else.

So you might wanna look into that. Let's hear more about why she's doing what she's doing. The very act of getting your financial shit together is feminist. All right. So because the patriarchy is hashtag winning, learning about finances is a way to stick it to the man. This is misguided because being debt-free and having money

is something you should do just for yourself. Not for a movement, not because you like women and you want them to succeed. Like, don't just do that. It's actually a great thing. Get out of debt. Make some money. It's great. Good for you. Well, I mean, it's also nonsense because women want to buy whatever they see. So they have to stick it to the man. Yeah. To stop those impulses. Just live your best life. Donald Trump is not actively working

to keep Tory Dunlap suppressed. I could promise you that. That's not what his end goal is, it adiabes us. So we learn that paying your debt is actually feminism. Paying off your debt, not being another statistic is feminist. And that could be true because our government has trillions of dollars of debt

and it's run mostly by men. So yes, paying off your debt is feminist. You go, girl. What else can you do to protest against the patriarchy? Because she gives a bunch of examples here, Vic, which I thought some of these were great ideas. You dinner out without even thinking about it. Being able to retire early, all of these things are feminist because they're acts of protest

against an inequitable unjust society. All right. Eating out for dinner whenever you want is a protest, it's patriarchy, except for like what a corporation or worse a man owns that restaurant. How does that work? I don't know, also like, you know, usually the chefs behind the grill are men, so.

Well, on a good restaurant, sure. I would hope so. If I wanted to do a restaurant, it's not a bunch of women working there. I'm like, all right, what else is open? Okay. So, Vic, I don't come from this world. You were assigned female at birth,

am I correct about that? That's very true. Okay, congratulations. So you've been a woman most of your life or all of your life. What is she talking about? I honestly have no clue. I stay away from anything to do with finance or anything like that. But she, I think it's just she has a lack of a personality. So her personality is just

hating men and getting into finance because she was so in debt from credit cards and probably theater school that she had to find a way to stick it to the man. That's a good point. She probably flushed away way too much money on a college education that's doing nothing for her. Oh, she even said she's like, and when I graduated in 2016, Trump was just elected and all of a sudden I found myself in this new America. I was like, okay, so in 2016, that's when we decided, fuck women. We're going to start suppressing them.

This been going on since the beginning. What are you talking about? But she's found a purpose. And I give her credit, man. She really knows why she's here and what she needs to do. That is what I was put on this earth to do. I was put on this earth to give women actionable resources

to better their money, to make talking about money less taboo, to provide non-judgmental, safe spaces to ask questions, to learn, to grow, to make mistakes. I love that she has a purpose. But what if, and follow me here, what if she puts out a 60-second tip-tock about how to save money and a guy's season? Like what if she educates a dude,

wouldn't that be bad? Well, I guess the Patriarchy would be winning at that point. Right. So guys, we need to all start following Tori on TikTok and get a good education out of this. I wonder if she thinks she has a, I mean, Vic, you're in the Navy and you did that because you feel that freedom is very important

and you wanna keep our country free and safe. Am I right about that? Sir, yeah, we'll go back. So you have a purpose in life. Like my purpose in life, I wish I could just come out of podcasts and just be like, I was put on this earth to goof on dummies. And God put me here because he needs these dummies

to get goofed out on a regular basis. No one else is doing this. I need to, I love that she has a purpose at the age of 20, whatever she has. She's got life I'll figure it out. Yeah, I would guess she's like later 20s if she graduated in 2016. Okay, put her at 27. Yeah, so she's like about the barren ages where she's like, oh shit, I'm not getting pregnant yet. Let me start getting a personality to seem interesting

Is that how that works? Exactly how that works. I'm not pregnant yet. I better develop a personality now All right, I mean I did that's not coming from me. That's coming from our front our front back there So let's talk about the reason why women are not rich. The reason you're not rich is because you buy too many lattes, you buy too much avocado toast, you didn't work hard enough, which of course is bullshit,

complete and utter bullshit. The math doesn't work. The reason you can't afford a house is not because you have the audacity to purchase yourself coffee. Okay. She says, the reason you're not rich is not because you have the audacity to purchase yourself coffee. Okay. She says, the reason you're not rich is not because you spend more than you make. How does that math work out? What do you mean? You watched your mom balance checkbooks. That's how you're not rich. If you spend as much as you make, and I think she's calling out women for this too, right?

Like, buy a lot of days and shit you don't need. Oh, absolutely. If you spend more money than you make her as much money as you make then you can't accumulate wealth and you can't get rich and she goes that's the reason you're not getting rich like well no that's kind of specifically the reason that you're not getting rich that you're not marrying you're not marrying billionaires not enough men are buying them coffees. Right, yes, that should be the solution to this. Find a dude who's hard up and make him buy you a latte.

He's probably standing in line. He's probably in line. It's not just an invitation. It's not hard to find a sip of your fucking Vicacips. It's not hard to find these people. Get a rotation, I like that. God, Vic, you should do your own show It's not going to find these people. Get a rotation. I like that. God, Vic, you should do your own show on how to financially support yourself.

Oh, yeah, it's using other people. It's the way women have always fucking done it, Carl. Yes. Vic, episode one, Only Fans. And the pie, it's just like a duh. This is how you make money. All right. See you in episode two.

Getting multiple guys to buy you lattes. This episode two should be a lot of fun. All right, let's find out who is actually responsible for all the suppression. When we have tried to engage in these conversations, when we have tried to learn from other people, a lot of the people at the forefront of these conversations

are shame-based, are straight white men, and who are not giving you resources will also acknowledge in systemic oppression. That's a lot to unpack, but I did think it was interesting that she lets the gaze off the hook for some reason. Well, they're against the patriarchy as well because they're straight men, Carl. They can't fuck them. Or if they do get fucked, it's just sugar daddies under the table. All right. So you're saying that it does happen? It does happen.

I just understand why your sexual orientation has anything to do with the financial systems within this country or the world. I'm not connecting those dots, but she apparently is. But my question on that clip where she says that there are these people who are doing this is who, can you give me one example of who this person is? Who's a straight white man who is suppressing people of color and women?

Who is this person? I'd love to see who this person is. I think there's probably a lot of people who want a straight white man in Alabama who feel like maybe this person's fucking them over too. Well, it would always have to be Trump, Carl. Oh, it's Trump, okay. He is the main patriarchy man, obviously.

Oh, yes. Her life just went downhill after him. I wonder what will happen when Trump passes away. Like who's gonna be the boogie man after Trump? Maybe Donald Jr. That'd be fun. All right, so you're talking about the conversations are going to be, I love, you know, we're gonna have these conversations.

Vic, you're gonna love these conversations on this season. You're gonna love the conversations that we have. We are also going to have conversations that are vulnerable and deep and sometimes really messy about how money affects us differently as women because we can't gain a financial foundation if we also don't acknowledge a corrupt unjust system. Okay. So, they're going to have conversations about how money affects them differently as women, because they can't gain financial foundation without acknowledging a corrupt unjust system.

No, you just have to learn how to play the game. There's millions of women who have figured it out. There's literally millions of women who have made a ton of money and are doing very well for themselves. It is a corrupt system. You're right about that. The system is corrupt. But you just got to learn how the system works. It's not against women.

It's just that women can't figure it out. No, I think it's just against ugly women, Carl. That's the whole problem. That is a part of it. And she might fall in that category, but I'm not here to judge those types of things. Beck, I judge podcasts, all right? I don't know why you're putting me in this situation to say such things. She's very proud of this season. And she explained something that she does in every single episode, which how could you not be excited about this season coming up? I am so proud of this season we've put together.

I am so proud of the conversations. I cry in every single one. Geez, what a little cry baby. You're gonna cry all day, cry baby? You know, everyone has problems. It doesn't mean you have to be a little cry baby about it. Come on guys, let's go. This kid is totally not cool. Yeah, that's the most uncool kid I've ever met. Little cry baby about it. Come on guys let's go this kid is totally not cool. Yeah that's the most uncool kid I've ever met. Little cry baby. Why is that a good thing that she's crying in every episode? I thought this was like a power people and give us resources actionable resources whatever the fuck that means. I'm gonna give you actual resources and cry a lot. Okay I mean can you do

that without crying? We know, Carl. A powerful woman admits that they cry. You know, apparently that's a whole thing now. Is that a thing? Yeah. Why? I don't know. It's weak.

Why is that a thing? Stop crying so much. People might take you more seriously. I don't have it figured out either. They'll be like, so I don't know. What do I know about any of this? I just know how to do a podcast. And one of the ways that you do a podcast is because you ask people to review your show.

You got to get a lot of reviews, right? That's how the show gets more popular and people find it. And she says, leave us a review. And if you don't know what to say, which is interesting, I just say you love the show or tell us what you like about the show. She says, if you don't know what to say, I have an idea for you. In your review, if you don't know what to write, tell us the weirdest way you've ever made money. Oh, so, um, Vic, I was wondering, what's the weirdest way you've ever made money? Well, you see, I put my stand up on the only fans.

It's funny. Say that that was what I was thinking too. You put an open mic. You're very first open mic ever on only fans. That's a weird way to make money. Yeah. And I'm sure most of those reviews will be like feedbacks or some shit to some Indian guy on Instagram

since that's most of our fan base. I'm wondering, and I don't want to tell people to review her show. We don't do that sort of thing here. We just like to keep things self-contained in our roast format show. But I wonder what kind of ridiculous things people could write about the weirdest way they made money. There could be some fun eggels you could go with that. I don't know, Vag, what do I know?

I don't know. I don't leave reviews for podcasts, so I don't know, Vagu, what do I know? I don't leave reviews for podcasts. So I don't know. You only tell people to give a maybe. Give me reviews. I don't tell you. Hey, by the way, this show has a 4.8 average rating

on Apple podcasts with almost 3,000 reviews. That's more than we have. And it just came out this year. She's doing something right. I think this shows kind of popular. Well, a lot of housewives have nothing to do, and they're all, you know, I wanna get rid of waste

to impress their husband, so. Is that what's going on? Because I guess she had a popular TikTok or something. Yeah. Her Instagram, she must be popular, I guess. I don't know. Her website, like she says she's all into making money and everything, but she doesn't have merch

or anything like that to make money off the podcast. So it's pretty interesting. I'm surprised by that because when she gives the credits, there are a lot of people involved with putting this podcast out. Financial feminist is produced and hosted by me, Tori Della, theme song and audio production by Jonah Cohen Sound. Administration and marketing by Olivia Copana, Sophia Cohen and Kristen Fields,

research by Ariel Johnson, promotional graphics by Mary Stratton, and photography by Sarah Wolf. A huge thanks to the entire her for a 100K team and community for supporting the show. Were there three people in marketing for the show Thanks to the fucking people I think they were all women as well, so of course God I would feel bad if I had a marketing team of three people for my pocket I always feel like Patrick my guard now. It's just me

It's just me. It's just me, man. I don't have a team of people helping me out. I couldn't believe the list. I mean, it's not an impressive podcast, is it, make am I wrong about this? No, she did have this one gal. I forget her name, but she got fired from like giant banks or companies twice publicly. Oh, yeah, what was the reason for that?

Because she's a woman. Yeah, cuz she's a fucking woman. I'm sure they told her that day. I was like, I don't even know. I'll be hired you That's exactly why they hired her. She was like, oh, you only hire women or minorities because it's your hail Mary And other than that, it's just next white guy, next white guy. It's like, what the fuck? Really, that's what this woman said, who had been hired by two companies that she failed at. She's blaming the companies. Yes, yeah.

Well, she claimed to have saved one of the companies, but it's still crashed and burned after she left. And I'm sure that Tori said, you know, you should probably look inwardly and try to process internally what you did wrong and get better at it. I'm sure that Tori's advice, right? No, God knows. She says, wow, it's really impressive. You, uh, failed so good that you're on Wall Street Journal twice. She's a scurrying. Um, all right. Well, you know, in case people are starting to feel bad about this, Tori does say,

can't wait to see it, can't wait to hear your feedback. Here's the feedback, Tori. We're doing it for you. If you can't wait, you're gonna be very excited about here in this episode, I'm sure. It's another episode 88. Oh, Jesus Christ. I actually think and Vic, again, I appreciate you stepping up and doing this show with me, but we had a goldmine. All of those clips I just played are from one 12-minute episode. I didn't even scratch the surface of this yet.

I think this could be a reoccurring character on this show. This woman is fucking bonkers. I was really excited. I thank you very much for suggesting, and who is the person who suggested this? Ken in the Discord. Wow.

Good find. Good find. So she has this moji woman on, and it's talks about zero waste, and she brings up climate change. And how soft are her listeners that she has to say this? Now, if just the words climate crisis freaked you out, I need you to stay with me. I promise

this episode is optimistic. I promise you that this is a necessary episode for you to listen to. Is someone listening to a podcast that she is like, today we're going to address climate change? What? I'm out here. That's too much for me to handle today. Well, that's exactly it. That's exactly the audience. I'm sure they're taking notes as the fucking podcast goes on or eight zero ways. Hate men, fuck the patriarchy, all of that. So I thought it was a fun question that she asked her,

guess she says, all right, you're talking about sustainable living and reducing your waste, zero waste. How do you do this? How do you not have garbage and fill landfills? Isn't this just something that rich people can do? Good question. Yeah, absolutely. So you're not wrong. When you look at sustainability influencers on Instagram,

you see a lot of rich white women who just have all of this time to go to 10 different stores and like, that's not me. So I totally understand that the visuals that don't really align with sustainability, but I like to break down that word. Like, sustainability is the ability to be sustained. So the ability to keep doing things for a long period of time. So the answer is, of course, yes.

If you're rich, you can do this. And then when this one goes, Webster's dictionary definition of sustainability is, I mean, we really have a retarded generation of adults coming up, no offense, Vec. This is scary that this is what's going on. It's all Google, Google education and fake websites. And again, it's all it is.

And oh, and again, she goes, yeah, if you look at Instagram and all the influencers who are talking about the state ability, it seems like a lot of care and it's like, yes, correct. It's a rich white women. I mean, it's women who have nothing better to do than waste time and money and their husbands time and money. That's exactly it. That's a good egg. She gets it. Last clipie Goodag, she gets it. Last clip I have from this show, I hope this isn't the last one we have for play on WOTP, but the last one I have for this episode is

Moji talks about her version of sustainability because we're all thinking like how do you not have any garbage in your life? What do you mean by that? So she gives an example. My version of sustainability is using the Fork's and knives that I have in my house already when I go out to eat, like before I coven it, and we can go to do takeout. Like I would take before I can have with me. So I'm not using disposable things. So it's just like simple things like that are considered sustainable, but they just don't always look like that

in the mainstream. Her first example, the first thought her had was bringing her own fork and knife when you get take out that gives you plastic wear. I think you've lost all credibility with me, Moji. That's utter nonsense. You realize it's pointless. If every single person in the world do that for 100 years, it wouldn't make a lick of fucking difference and what we're talking about here. Holy shit

I'm still gonna make them it does not fucking matter And she was talking about like bringing a metal straw to fucking restaurants as well And she's like now like it helps so much. It's like no. There's 80 other fucking customers in the same restaurant drinking out of straws I don't know what the fuck they think they're doing. Right. I love it because just being here in Vegas, they try to virtue signal. I mean, literally everything here is wasteful. It's just gambling and everything's overpriced and nonsense and we're throwing everything

right in the trash. Can't wait to throw it away, but they have paper straws. Like, oh, fucking, if this is the thing, this is the thing that makes you feel good about it, you're fucking a restaurant, you know, this paper straw sucks. Okay, just gonna blast the straw. Because if you use paper straws, it only kills the trees. It doesn't kill sea animals. Right.

And animals is really what they're getting down to. God, damn, one photo of a turtle. and now I'm drinking through a fucking paper straw Exactly, I'm not even being facetious here. I fucking hate the internet. I think it's really ruined life I went to an Irish pub last weekend and they serve me my fucking drink with a paper straw. I was disgusted Carl. It's got to be tough to live your life there, Beck. It's disgusting. So you listened to more episodes of this than I did. Any other takeaways in every nose that you had? No, it's pretty much. She's just like reaching at any straw that just like paper straw. Yes, very good.

That will kill the patriarchy and to get women to absolutely hate men more. She's grasping at paper straws. Exactly. Wow, I want to entitle this episode, the patriarchy strikes back. I'm representing the patriarchy in this episode with my friend, Vic, who is serving this country so don't even say shit about Vic. Just gonna get me kicked out. Vic is my human shield today.

All right, that brings us to, but dynamite podcast and dynamite suggestion, I'm excited about it. Now it's time for... Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. You know what, cringe of the week is, right, Vic? Of course, it's my favorite part.

It's your favorite part. Okay, well great. So this is the part of the show where people send its suggestions of what's the cringiest thing that happened in podcasting over the week. We're all listening to lots of podcasts and we hear terrible things happening all the time.

And I'm even listening to this yet. This is from a podcast called, Oh, I like that. And it's from our buddy, Adam Thoreau. So I just trust it to be good, because Adam does a good job of curing content for us. So let's all discover this together. What's your hump day vibe, Rachel? Well, I guess I'm realizing as we're talking,

I'm taking Friday off of work. So this is technically my Thursday, which means it's my Friday, junior. So the vibe is both Humpty and Friday, junior, which is one of the best days of the week. I'm just really excited for the weekend because it is the last full weekend of Pride month. Okay.

I don't know what that was. I don't know what we deserved. That was awful. The Friday, junior. No wonder women are still being with their finances. They're fucking talking about Friday, Jr. and they're celebrating a hump day. Like, just get your work done.

Just get your fucking work done. Just, all right. That's a problem. Well, celebrate. They have to get more men to buy their own drinks. It's great. All right. Well, if you have a moment, I would like to talk about what's going on. With our buddy, Stachio. I hate to even do this because last week I played a clip of John talking about the lawsuit,

really short 30 second clip. Then I went on Drew and Mike and I played a bunch more. I put out a bonus show with Shitty Song the week Brandon and we talked even more about it I played a 6.5 minute long clip of him talking about the lawsuit. Well, we talked about it again. It's like the third time now. He's addressed the lawsuit so I just have some clips. He lost his lawsuit to Sirius XM.

The privilege lawsuit. And I think he's starting to come to terms with the fact that he lost a little bit, but not quite, but he's finally admitting that he lost. Before he's going, hey, this is just the first step of the process. The judge throwing out your cases, the first step of the process. That's a bad first step, my friend. But he finally kind of admits it here. I, yes, we did lose the lawsuit with serious XM, which is fine. You know, we knew going in that, you know, it could have happened because we

knew that, you know, this kind of thing takes time. I will talk to him and we'll think about the appeal and he'll tell me what, you know, how we are going to move forward. It actually didn't take that much time at all. It just got thrown out. It wasn't like a lengthy court trial that we were all watching on court TV. The judge looked at it and said, this is stupid. This is a dumb thing to bring before me and I won't waste any more time with it.

Well, I don't think he's willing to admit anything else past that. He has to keep some of his low, low pride, Carl. Right. So, instead of addressing how they're going to appeal it or why they would appeal it or what the judge got wrong, he goes off on the people who are happy that he lost the suit. This is what he keeps talking about. All these losers who are out there excited that he lost the suit. This is what he keeps talking about. All these losers who are out there excited that he lost his suit,

and he assumed that those people subscribe to Sirius and are the kind of people who are still listening to Howard Stern, and he starts laughing at the people who don't like him. And listen to how unhealthy this guy is. He starts wheezing as he's laughing. thing at the people who don't like him and listen to how unhealthy this guy is he starts wheezing as he's laughing. Howard is taking off for the entire summer while you are paying for the subscription.

Holy shit man. Who do I have in the death pool again? Who do I take? I took Centering John right? Yes. Okay thank God. I think I'm gonna win that one. Andy get your 50 bucks ready. Get ready to get set and unvenmo. So this is him now fake laughing and all the losers because Howard's turn is taking the entire summer off That's me laughing at you fucking losers That's staying at the board That's a really funny drop right there. I have a feeling I'll be using this for a lot of people

That's me laughing at you fucking losers. Good one, John. He goes on to say again that if you were rooting for serious, then you're also happy that Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes. It's like, dude, what is this connection you're making in your head? You brought a frivolous lawsuit to get thrown out. We think you're a moron and we're laughing at you. There's nothing to do with Jeff Bezos playing taxes Is he even able to call other people losers now that he lost? Well, he got his case completely thrown out by the shot

Yeah, that's thank you. That's the definition of a loser. He lost Thank you for connecting those dots that were sufferers and I wasn't able to That's great. He's calling people losers. Yeah, I lost my suit, but you losers. Okay. So then he says, you don't need to like him. And again, I'm not, this is new content. I swear, he keeps saying the same thing he should over and over again.

You don't have to like him. He doesn't need friends, and he proves he doesn't need friends. Look, you don't have to like me. I don't need any more friends. I have great friends. I don't need any friends. I have plenty of friends hung out with all my friends that I still have from high school.

You store the pictures. That's the opposite of impressive. So he went back to Long Island and had a little reunion with his buddies from high school. I did see the pictures. They were all over our sub-rime. Their friends are a motley crew. And it's not Vince Neal.

So yes, he's hanging out with his friends from high school. That's literally where you're guaranteed to have friends because you hang out with people at your age every single day. And he goes, I have friends from high school, like we all do. That's the easiest way to get friends. What about your celebrity friends from the time you were on the tonight show

and you met all those celebrities? You hanging out with any of them? Because I don't see that happening. Well, he doesn't take pictures of that car. He doesn't need any more friends. I don't need any more. So I don't need anymore friends. I have enough friends. You could use some more moderators, though.

I think you're down to one, but OK. Don't worry about that. So he's explaining that in case you're just getting caught up now, the lawsuit is about the fact that Sirius XM plays Howard Stern episodes from the 90s and early Aught when he was on trust your radio and Stuttering John is sometimes not very often but sometimes featured on these little clips and segments. And so John thinks that they owe him money because they play old Howard Stern shows that

were by the way owned by Howard Stern. He purchased them from the radio company that he worked for. I can't remember which one it was, but he was able to get the rights to those shows and then serious is able to play them. And John thinks that we don't believe that they're playing Old Howard Stern episodes. But I don't think serious should profit off of me and my work. I don't think they should have the right to get subscriptions off of my publicity and use my publicity for them. Hey, coming up next, stuttering John at the MTV Awards. We have tape for that. So don't say it didn't happen. No, we know, John, we know that they're playing bits that you did when you're on the Howard Stern show.

That's not the argument here. We have it on tape. John we know that they're playing bits that you did when you run the Howard Stern show That's not the argument here. We have it on tape That's they talk about a bit that I did in 1993 and they play it on the guests I know we were all aware of that the judge you throw out your case is aware of that He said that the copyright law You serps the stupid publicity law that you have in California because your state's a fucked up. So then he starts reading a text message from Nikki B. And once again, I can I can just picture Kroge belly laughing at this. He

starts giving out health information that Nikki B just texted to him. I want to think like moderator. Nikki B, who just texted me, the surgery went well. They took several biopsies. I don't know if she wants me to read this. Let me make sure she's staying overnight for observation. Oh, she blocked the troll. Oh, she's sick from the anesthesia. I don't know if she wants me to read this.

And then it continues to read it. The fuck is wrong with this guy? That's his friend. He doesn't need any more. He doesn't need any more. He's got- Gonna talk about his friends. He's gonna make you be any his high school friends.

Perfect. So this is funny because a guy is subscribing. He's got. He's got to talk about his friends. He's going to be an East High School friends. Perfect. So this is funny because a guy is subscribing. By the way, the guy's name is Justin Case. This is not a real person. If you're like, hey, Justin Case, what's up, Justin? So this guy subscribes and we gotta celebrate that. The only way Senator John knows how with his trumpet sound. You know, he puts his fingers together over his mouth

and he makes that trumpet sound. Yeah. He's very proud of this talent that he has. One of his few left. It's pretty impressive. You have to admit. And I want to thank all the YouTube members. I do want to give a trumpet to welcome Justin Case,

a new YouTube member. Oh yeah, that's another sound effect of mine that Howard played and nauseam that I didn't get a single dime for. Holy shit, he wants money for that trumpet sound! If I was the attorney and he gave it to my like any has to pay me for my trumpet side of it All right, get the fuck out of here. I'm not taking this case. Are you insane? Can you imagine being like I don't even get a dime for making a weird noise out of my lips? I wonder if he had them all listed down like every single thing that they played that he did I did see the paper

Where they didn't put a lot of effort into it. They should have they should have put more effort into like one Howard actually played or serious play. Crazy. On the airways. The lawyer Carl. It's a fantastic lawyer. They talk all the time. Michael Bupuck. The great Michael Bupuck. I do have another clip on here that I wanted to play for Shule but I'll play it anyway. This is John talking about how he found out where the Howard crew was staying when they came to LA and the infamous video of John harassing Shule until Shule got security to remove John from the hotel.

But John is so proud of himself for figuring out where they were staying. And we're gonna go out and we're gonna do it. Hey, look, nobody knows how I found Shule at that hotel, but if I told you how I found out where they were staying, you would call me the next Colombo. I'm telling, it took two or three people to analyze photos and figure out what hotel they was

taking. That's how that's how we were and I was able to get the interview. Be it he wouldn't talk to me much like Kevin McCarty won't and Mitch McDickless won't but it won't matter. It won't matter. Because I will. I will find that way you're reading and I'll wait out from with the camera crew and my microphone. Like real reporters do. Anyway, like real reporters. Oh no. I was three people helped him.

Yes, he probably didn't even fucking find the place. Correct, Vic. I love it when he says he's was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, next club. You'd be amazed if you found out how I was able to do this. You know, when we were down in Tampa for the Dixia, people found out where Ethan Ralf was staying at his Airbnb, because he posted a photo and there was a painting on the wall, and people searched through every listing and found the listing with that painting on the wall. People with time can do this sort of thing. It's not that difficult.

You just need free time and Google to figure this stuff out. But I love that he's like, he can't wait to do this new thing he's gonna do where he just wants to sabotage me. I'm gonna sneak up on people and I'm gonna yell, boo with them and we'll have the camera crew, just like a real reporter does.

Yeah, he has just thousands of questions locked and loaded Carl, like why don't you talk to me anymore? Yeah, like he literally says, and they won't answer my questions. Oh, well, what's the point of this? You're just gonna bark at people? I mean, TMZ used to do that. That was their whole gimmick,

and then they realized like, this isn't getting us anywhere. Maybe we should be nicer to these celebrities and actually get a conversation going. What do I know? Why am I talking about TMZ? I've never even watched it. Okay, moving on, Vic.

As I teased in the last episode, I had the great Dr. Steve on. And Dr. Steve presented a psychoanalysis on the mental issues of Patrick Michael. So, Vic, I'm going to play that now. Afterwards, we'll be back to read some reviews. Listen to your voice, mouse, so stay tuned for that. I'll tell you, Shuley catches a lot of hell, particularly from the Howard Stern fans, but we had him do an event for us a couple of years back,

and it was called the funniest fucker in the tri cities. And we had, you know, amateur comedians get up. I said, look, it's just American Idol style, or AGT, whatever we had three judges. And you are Ryan Seacrest. And he was brilliant, dude. And then at the end of it, he did, you know, 30 minutes of just stand up just to kind of show

the contestants how it's done. And he got a standing ovation that they wouldn't sit down until he actually left the stage. That's how funny he was. Wow. Don't tell Jumami happy that story. Jumami happy from our subreddit has, I don't know if Shouli touched him down his pants or something. The guy fucking can't stand Shouli for some reason.

Oh, really? Oh, there's a lot of deep hatred, deep, deep hatred. A lot of the Howard Stern people didn't like Julie. Yeah, there are a lot, obviously a lot of people really did, but there's a, you know, I would get on there in the Howard Stern subrad and they say, oh, God, anytime Julie gets on there, I'd turn it off. It's like, you are missing, you're missing, interpreting this guy's talents. He's really, really funny.

I agree. I agree. I don't think that's an, really funny. I agree. I agree. I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. Yeah. Good. Good. Who knows? You know, Shuley decided to go out on his own.

And it seems to be working for him. Yeah. Good. Yeah. I know. He did exactly the right thing. That's the proof. If he had stayed on, he would have made less money and had to sign an NDA and never be able

to talk about the show ever again. He did exactly the right thing. Alright, I'm gonna get it started. Okay. And we start with this. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me. I go for the girl. Because that's absurd. All right, so this is the thing we've been teasing for a while.

I've been excited about it. Dr. Steve is here from Weird Medicine. Dr. Steve, welcome to the show. Oh, thank you for having me, my friend. Thank you so much for making it today. Very glad to be here. And putting in the prep that you have put in, we are going to do what I've been calling

a psychoanalysis of Patrick Michael. Why don't you explain what you did and what we're gonna be doing on the show today? Well, first, yeah, the psychoanalysis is a strong term. This is not a medical diagnosis, Well, first, yeah, that psychoanalysis is a strong term. This is not a medical diagnosis, you know, true diagnoses of mental conditions. If they are present at all, must be done by care by a licensed provider.

This is for entertainment purposes only. I'm taking this whole disclaimer out in post, but go ahead, keep it used just a little bit. But, you know, so I have listened to your show. It's the now the one podcast I never miss. I appreciate it. And so I've become quite accustomed to Patrick Michael. And he comes across as cocky and manipulative and selfish and patronizing and demanding, and his feelings are easily hurt.

Oh, yeah. When he's wounded, he lashes out, and he uses people whom he can easily control to enhance his own image. I'm talking about you, Craig Peacock. But he also expresses feelings of self-loathing and poor self-worth. You know, he tells his listeners not to listen. And if a podcast gets too popular, he figures that it's got to be bad and he moves on to something else. And it's just kind of this endless cycle.

It's bizarre. It's bizarre behavior, which is why we're also fascinated by it. I know it is fascinating. This kind of behavior we see in people with poor self-image, but then they exhibit an unrealistic outward confidence or a fantastical image even to the outside world that makes up for their self-dispising nature. And this, my friend, is the hallmark of the compensatory narcissist. And at its most extreme form, it can be a compensatory narcissistic personality disorder. So that's interesting, because you wouldn't think a narcissist

would be so afraid of success like he is. Exactly, that's the thing. See, we kind of have this image of narcissists of people that look at themselves in the mirror and print when they have this self-love. But really is, it's an external facing coping mechanism for low self-esteem and feelings of low self-worth. And I'll tell you the reason I feel reasonably confident in this is because it takes one to

no one. I myself had compensatory narcissistic tendencies earlier. I didn't have the personality disorder, but in my family, I was the youngest. I was stupid Steve. You know, I had ADHD, but they didn't have a term for it back then, because that's how freaking old I am.

I was just always an underachiever and lazy. You know, I'd get 99th percentile on the standardized test and I'd get C's and D's and school. Drove my parents crazy. And then I was a little skinny, little effort. And I weighed 122 all the way through college, so you can imagine what I weighed in high school. So I got bullied a lot and stuff. And I tended to exaggerate it to the outside world, my accomplishments until I got to the point, right and have to exaggerate anymore and it kind of got better. So you're never actually cured. You're never cured of this mental disorder that you have. You still have it. You've just kind of locked into it being

your true self. Exactly right. By the way, when I think of a narcissist, I always think of Robin Quivers because the great Dr. Drew did a narcissism test thing and for all the people on the staff and she rated the highest. For some reason I'm remembering she was a 34, which was like that. The highest number by far.

I'll give you one of these. That was a 34. Give yourself a bell. And she ranked very highly. And she's a different kind of narcissist. She's the kind of narcissist that the classic narcissist. Now, if you delved into it, you may find that there is a person in there that, you know, she was abused as a child.

And it could be that that inner child is still very fragile and she's built up this outward narcissistic personality to compensate for that. So she may actually deep down inside be the same sort of narcissist. Let's do Rob and Quiver's on another episode. Let's get back to our friend, Penny Seacups.

Yeah, so, you know, one of the, some of the other aspects of narcissistic personality disorders, they associate with other quote unquote unique people, and that can boost their individual self-esteem, which is, as I said, it's usually very fragile or damaged in some way, and they're really resistant to changing their behavior

because of their intolerance for criticism. Interesting. And these people are extremely sensitive and view even concerned and caring input, which you guys have given him from time to time, you know, as personal attacks. So if you have a very concerned, you know, hey, you know, if you just did this it might be better They'll see that as a personal attack and and respond in kind and then the the last thing that I want to talk about as First their traits is this sort of delusional sense of superiority that Nileed's them to believe they're unique and that they cannot be understood by average people.

Okay. So, yeah, one of the things with him is, okay, so he has this outward confidence, but if you listen to the opening of some of his shows, they're disturbing. Yes. You know, it's arrogant, but then these self-superior images that are coupled with self-loathing, and I have one of his intros. It's my number one. And do you want me to play him or are you gonna fly? I'll play it on my end here. Okay. That I just, it's maybe too long,

but you could play just a little bit of it. And you can see this really disturbing kind of intro. And I just wonder if this is what he hears inside his head. What a game of bitches! I just don't have to express myself sometimes. I don't look apart before I go. inside his head. There you go. There you go. I don't get along with people fucking out, treat him. Yeah, treat him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's sensitive. Oh god, you don't have to play the whole thing.

Yeah, all right. Yeah, and even Chris Farley, of course, had some of those traits where, you know, he would play people that were, you know, downtrodden or, you know, just something was wrong with that. Do you remember that time when he was talking to Paul McCartney? Yeah.

Do you remember that? That was awesome. That was awesome. Right, right, right. So there is a three minute test for NPD and what I thought we could do is go through some of these, and then play clips that sort of answer the question since he isn't here.

Yeah, so basically what Stephen and I just started to do is to go through all these different traits, and then see if we can find examples of that, that might help analyze this, and kind of, I don't know, prove is the right word. But we want to show some evidence that this could be the disorder that Patty C. Cups is experiencing.

So what's start with the first question here? The first question is, do you experience an exaggerated and exaggerated sense of self-importance? So I have a clip that I'd like to point for this. Yes, yes, I've got several on that one. Oh good, okay, I just have one for this one, but this is him explaining that we need him more than he needs us.

The guy who has been doing the same shit for 17 years, he beat me, he won, he got me. So now I'm gonna quit oh Wait a minute if I quit what does he have to talk about? Mm-hmm who's gonna make his show worth listening to him and get the fuck out of here So he thinks w a tp relies on his existence in order to even be a show so that would be I would call it Exaggerated sense of self-importance. You got to love the guy though. Check out my number two and I think I pulled that one as well. So if we find that one of mine was the same, we can just dump out of it, man.

So I'll just do this fucking podcast again because you guys are like fish to water. You need it. You need it to survive so I'll give it to you. Yeah, by the way, because we know Patti Seacups, we hear that and we chuckle, but could you imagine any other person that you listen to out of the radio or podcasts like saying that. I know. You need it. You got to have it. And I'll give it to you because you've got to have it to survive. Wow. Brilliant. Great. Check great. Check out my number three. I've got that one tagged as exaggerated sense of self importance as well.

I suppose if I talk about come, you guys are gonna come lap it up. Yeah. Pound intended, I imagine. Hopefully. Let's see, we'll run through some of these. Do you expect to be seen as superior to other people? Now, a lot of these things all mush in together. Yeah. Like some of the ones that I have where he's superior to others. Really could be considered arrogance or haughtiness too, which is another one. But I've got number six, five, six, and seven.

We're all ones where he displays traits of being, feeling that he's superior to other people. So we could just try, let's try number five first. Okay. Mentioning you helps my show none. I don't know why that's the case. Because you're not that relevant. I don't know why that's the case Because you're not that relevant. I don't know Yeah, that was about me specifically

Yeah, yeah, so he's superior to you right and then he was also feels superior to hit man 84 as well That's number six his greatest he might be right about this Achievement is giving Carl information on me. And I don't know him. I don't know the guy. I know his name is Matt Lubit outside of that. Don't know him. Never met him. He probably rarely comes out of his house and it's not because you go orthobic.

It's just simply because he has no reason or purpose to. Good night. There you go. Good night. I think that's his style of roasting though too, but yeah, okay. Yeah, of course it is. It's a few already. And then number seven, this is also mushed up with an exaggerated self-importance as well.

I don't know if that's because I have other skills outside of this shit, but again, I also don't have to do this. I don't have to sit here and talk into a microphone for you. Though you might need me to, or desperately beg me to, but in the end, this is just for me. Okay, wow. That's confusing. I have an an example here where I got a sock about me specifically Okay, good part is he only clips me because I have such a quality podcast. I actually make jokes. I actually make funny stuff and He's got to use it for something But remember you're not important to me dude. All right, so remember remember you're the same exact level as a dirty sock Which isn't good, but I'll

keep you around and reuse you. Hmm. So I think that's a pretty good example of feeling superior to others. Yeah. As I am just a dirty sock that he keeps around to jerk off it though. One of the things that he does is talk about how great he is at jokes and roasting people, but he never actually does it. And he said it's easy too, which is great.

Yeah, right. We can skip ahead. Number 12, he talks about how great he is at roasting people. So are we still under the superior? I don't know where we are. Well, I want to keep this going, because I have my clips matched up with these different questions. Okay, okay, fair enough. I'm sorry, I want to keep this going, because I have my clips matched up with these different questions. Okay, okay, okay, fair enough.

I'm sorry, I'm very organized today, Dr. C. Yeah, well, we can, do you have any more for superiority? No, I was ready to move on to... Exaggerating. Do you ever exaggerate your talents or accomplishments? And I was like, oh, oh boy. Yeah.

Yeah, there's quite a, you can, we can just play whole podcast. Right. Yeah. The entire podcast are just exaggerations. This is him talking about that song that he created. Hey, Coral. That was terrible.

That was an interesting and in any single way. And this is a talk about it. Or the Roy song, the Kyle song, aka, hey, Coral. You know, that's nothing. And I also didn't need my fans to make it. Like I said before, I, Coral. You know, that's nothing. And I also didn't need my fans to make it. Like I said before, I made that shit. It's dumb, easy, funny shit. Okay, even just explaining what it is is hilarious.

It's funny as fuck. All right, if you don't get that that's funny, stop listening to my show now. Get the fuck away from me. Nope, we'll not. I'm gonna continue to listen even though that's not funny. I Think that maybe the same as my number four. I'm not sure. Let's listen to it for a second and see the Roy song the Kyle Yeah, yeah, it's the same okay. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna have a little bit of a lot because this episode that you pulled from has a lot of these things going on

So yes, yes hard not to have a little bit overlap Try number nine then that's this should be a good example of him exaggerating his talent Of course, it's all jokes here guys, you know, because I do actual comedy podcasting. I have a very funny show Right and I don't I don't need somebody else's content to make me funny. I just am. Yeah, I think I had that one too. Yeah, okay. That's a good one.

It's a bit exaggerated. I'm going to go a different route with you right now on the exaggeration. You might remember he did a show talking about, are you hungry? Phenomenal show. Just really interesting stuff about how he used to cook at Arby's and got fired, because he sucked at it and couldn't get a job at a bowling alley. And he talks about how he went above and beyond at his jobs.

So remember, this is exaggerating your talents or accomplishments. I really did take pride in it where I would bust my ass. Like head down, grindstone. Let's get the numbers, man. Let like head down grindstone. Let's get let's get the numbers Man, let's put these sandwiches out. Let's get this fried stuff out. Let's get these other you know what I mean? I yeah one time I ran mozzarella sticks in the middle in the middle of winter out the front door And I slip right in front right by their driver side door right like this Like I'm still holding my beer not trying to spill it. Okay? Because

in my head I'm thinking if these hit the ground, I have to go get more mozzarella sticks. And I'm not into that. So I was like, I'd rather eat shit and hand them this, you know, keep this from touching the ground and let them go upon among their way, then have them come back through and be like, well, you fell on them. Like, fuck, I've fallen many times. I would put myself on the line where I'd say I would die for this, but I don't expect the same from you. All I expect of you to do is the bare minimum.

The job that's required of you, I will pick up the rest of that slack. I have no other reason not to, right? So he basically just said, I was supposed to bring food to somebody at my job and I was barely able to do it. And this is something he's bragging about. This is an accomplishment that he's bragging about years later on a podcast.

But he would die to make sure that it got done right, but you don't have to, but that's just the way I roll. Yeah, I actually have a clip that contradicts that, but that's for a separate question that we have here. Here's another exaggeration of talent at Accomplishments. Okay, this is just fun. It's fun, it's easy. I mean, the production is fucking great. What the hell are you talking about? The production is not great. That's something that you're not pulling off at all.

It's funny. Did you have any for the next one, which is engaging in fantasies about being successful, powerful or beautiful? I know that he has said those things, but last, you know, I only got my audio last night and I was up to one in the morning cutting it up and I didn't really find anything that fit that one. Dr. Steve always finds a way to slip in

how much work he puts into doing the shot. I appreciate it, but you always finds a way to slip in how much work he puts into doing the shot. I appreciate it. But you always find a way to do that. Like by the way, I'm a pressing physician and I have a media empire, but that's fine. Carl, let's have to 1 a.m. to prep for your stupid show. No, I take this very seriously. You do. And I appreciate that. I do want to shit the bed on your shirt. I appreciate that. I do have some clips. So you're talking about, do you require constant admiration from others?

Is that the one we're looking at? Oh, fantasy, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, do you engage in- Yeah, it's the same. Do you engage in fantasies? Engage in fantasy about being successful, powerful, or beautiful yes and Here's here's the first one. He's talking about when he saw me on chip chipperson show and he got very upset about that

But explains that people who listen to his show wouldn't know Jim Norton is or who I am most the people listening in my podcast Don't even know who chip chipper is, let alone Jim Norton or Carl. Good. So he thinks that his show is popular for reasons other than us telling people to check him out. He's like, my fans don't even know Jim Norton is or Carl. Like this, I mean, these people are nobody's. And which, you know, the truth is that everyone that listens to him that got referred there from this show,

which are the vast majority of the people that are listening to him, all know who Chip Chipperson is and they all do Chip Chipperson and they all know who Jim Norton is. So that's just a, you know, that's just nuts. Correct. Correct, which is why we're calling this a fantasy. Right, right, right, right, very good.

This is another really fun fantasy that I have. This is him explaining that if I was the substitute teacher in eighth grade, that he would have tore him and his friends would have torn me down so hard I would have been crying. I'm sure Carl would be entertaining as a substitute teacher for eighth graders, but if he was in one of my classes, he would be crying after every single period.

Every day he would just be whimpering in the class afterwards because me and my friends would just destroy this guy. That's the definition of a fantasy. Going back to when you were in eighth grade and how cool it would have been if he could have made me cry in class because he was crushing me so hard. Yeah, and I have a hypothesis that he's actually talking about himself there, crying at the end of class,

which that's the big reveal at the end of my very last clip that I think explains everything, but that's just a bit of a teaser to keep people listening. I got to come up withies here. Okay. This is when he was talking about how cool he was in school and he was able to play capture the flag with the jocks and was really good at it. No, actually, I don't know. I always felt like I'll shine playing capture the flag in PE with the with the jocks. So he's playing a children's game with the

quote unquote jox and he's able to shine. Yeah. Who still talks about that? Nabi, I only talk about him talking about it, which I can't get enough of. All right. You know, you guys still, you know, you referred to him, I love this kid and all this stuff, but he's an adult. I mean, he's a kid. But that's this kind of stuff that makes you think that he's a kid. He's 33, but you're right, when he talks about

what he didn't high school and how cool and popular he was, you're like, oh, yeah, he's a kid. I think he still thinks like that. Yeah. This is another fun example of talking about just how this fantasy that he's just likable and everyone loves him. The fact of the matter is I think most of the people I've met in real life or done episodes with, they like me a lot. I don't know what it is, but I win everybody over. All right, I have old women

talk to me in public. Why? I don't want you to, but it happens. Right? It's a weird humble brag right there. Yeah, it certainly is. What kind of fight is that old women talk to me? I don't want to talk to them. Okay. He does a lot of humble bragging. Yeah. To deviate just a little bit, if you play my number 11, it's quite the humble brag the humble brag and I'm half-assing this the whole time half-assing all of it the only thing that really takes the time is the clips the video things that I put out on social media that takes time everything else outside of that doesn't really take any time. I can record this hour long episode, edit it, and have it done for tomorrow.

It's nothing. Affordless. Yeah. It's effortless. So therefore genius. Right? Because it doesn't have to. What he's saying though, in my opinion, is if it's not genius, it's because I'm not

putting any work into it. Because he says that a lot. He goes, I could roast these guys. I'd be the best at roasting these guys, but I just don't want to put them much work into it. So it's like, the only thing holding me back is me. I mean, obviously, I'm an amazing talent. Well, that's interesting.

Yeah, I kind of took it that he's saying, and these things are so good, but I don't put any effort into it at all. Well, the funny thing, the funny thing about me, I don't like it. True artist. He's saying both things. He does it all the time because because he doesn't even know what he's saying. So he'll say something and then he'll immediately contradict it. You're like, I don't know which thing he believes. I honestly don't. I don't know if he knows. I want to go back to the question before that one. If you don't mind. Do you require constant admiration from others?

Okay. And I've actually deleted that one from my last. So you feel you go right ahead. Yeah, I got a few clips here because this is going back away, but this is what sparked the jingle for Patty's e-cups. Don't tell me that you don't like my show because that's absurd. So when people are like, by the way, your show's not that great.

He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I only want to hear that it's awesome. That's all I want to hear from you is how great it is. Yeah. That's all I ever want to hear. This is for me and the people that like it. Okay, that's what makes no sense to hear. This is for me and the people that like it. Okay, that's what makes no sense to me. Why are people that don't like specific content or content creators or artists or whatever?

Why are those ones the ones that listen to your shit or look at your shit or observe your shit or review your shit? It's like the last people that should be having an opinion about your things are the ones that aren't creating anything or their stuff isn't up to even your standards. Yeah, again, narcissistic people are resistant to changing their behavior because of their intolerance of criticism. Well, right. And he requires constant admiration and he's saying, if you don't enjoy it, I don't want

to hear from you and please do not listen to the show, I'm not going to change, I don't want to get better. I only want people who are going to praise me, listening to the show and communicating with me. So fast forward, fast forward, he's got this new show called, Dude, where's my joke? And if you remember my analysis of this, he went through and did, I don't know, seven or eight minutes on the

power rangers. I wanted to pull this. I couldn't find it. So I'm glad you did. Yeah. So he's talking about the power rangers. He was on fire. He was on fire.

He had all these jokes about it. And at the end, he didn't get laughs from the other two guys. I think it was Dick knows and Trey Peacock. And so he has to lash out and explain that it's not his fault. I'm realizing the most people I've shared these jokes with don't know what the power rangers are. Which seems weird because there's 37 versions and 12 movies. You're either lying to me or these are bad jokes Yeah, and then he goes out of the sale of the bill he goes out to say that they're not bad jokes and that they were fire and all this stuff So he obviously was saying guys. I need you to give me constant positive feedback on this or awesome

We're gonna have a problem. It's either you guys are stupid or these are bad bad jokes and we know they're not bad jokes. So let's skip forward QAD, you're stupid. So let's skip forward to the next one, which is, do you expect total compliance from others? Yes. So in this episode that we're talking about here, Dino's heckles him when he starts off his power ranger set and he shuts it down immediately. Now, I'm not saying I wasn't influenced by the power rangers, but the first time that I yelled it's morph and time before a fight, I lost.

Last week. Get this guy out of here. So I thought that was a pretty good example of expecting compliance. Absolutely. Did you have any on that one? No. Okay. I didn't on that one. There were a couple of times where he just tells the audience.

He expects total compliance from them. Yeah, that's a good call. And I couldn't find those clips. But I remember there was a time that he was saying, do not send me an email, do not comment on Instagram, do not DM me, I will not be looking at it and I do not care and do not do that. Exactly, yeah, and I couldn't find that either,

but all of us listening know that we've heard. We all remember that. All right, the next one is, do you struggle to recognize the emotions and needs of other people? And I just have a quick example here. And this is again, going back to the doodores, my joke podcast with Trey Peacock. Now, Trey, he's a special kind of guy. And he has a fun idea for what they can call a podcast.

Patrick Michael shuts this down immediately, gives it no room to breathe at all. Talk about how. He's telling is this a podcast. Patrick Michael shuts this down immediately, gives it no room to breathe at all. Talk about how is this a podcast? I think somebody would probably already have that idea, but I like the idea of us saying steal these. So that he goes out to say that Mark Norwins should do his jokes after that. But, uh, but yeah, I don't think that he understands that maybe, you know, Tracy Young kid, he needs to maybe a little bit of coiling here to help him out. Not that I would do that, but. Yeah, that one's a hard one to just pull from podcasts.

Yeah. You'd have to live with them to do that. So that, you know, that would be a good guess to have on your show in the future. I hope so. I really hope that we get to talk to Trey Peacock. That would be outstanding. You know, there was a time that I thought Brent Hattley would never do the show

because of all the terrible things I said. So who knows? Yeah. Who knows? Don't you think we can become friends of the show? Brent is a really good sport. He sure is. He got to give him that.

All right, so let's fast forward to a question that's a lot more fun. Yeah, right. Okay, I'm glad to do others perceive you as arrogant or haughty. Yes. So this is what we can find. Some examples of those. Yes. Number 16, I believe, is an example of arrogance and superiority and exaggeration. Oh, we got the trifecta. Yes, we got the trifecta yes we got the trifecta nobody sent me a dm no one's comment nothing because that's how little it matters the podcast wasn't even worth doing and yet I still did it and if the joke was making fun of me I did better at that as well

there you go yeah he does declare that he's better at stuff than everybody else quite a bit. And he also talks about how great he is at roasting, which I find to be a bit arrogant. I hate that people think that this is something that I want to do. I'm great at it, right? Roasting these fuck fucks.

I'm great at it, right? Roasting these fuck fucks. I'm great at it. But it also takes more effort than I'm willing to put in. He's great at it. And to your point earlier, Dr. Steve, like show me some evidence of this. Have you roasted anyone before? I know you said that you've never met a guy named Carl

who was cool. Was that a roast joke? Was that one of the ones?? I don't know any examples of these of these jokes that he's talking about. Oh, call the roast master on that one. I've got another arrogance one number 17. It better cracks at everybody in the band than the guy hosting the show, which is typically how it goes because I'm an actual host. An actual leader. Okay, that's the difference. I'm an actual leader. So when you get your 3000 followers

that you pay for on Instagram, just know that the ones that follow me are because I'm an actual leader. So he has fewer followers because he's an actual leader. That makes sense. That's right. Of course.

I love his logic. It's great. It's his logic, it's great. It's brilliant. And it's so circular and you can never get around it. You know, it's like talking to a flat earther. It's hard to argue with. It was like when I went on, who's right? And I was arguing with Anthony about advertising on podcasts.

And he would say, I don't think that you should be reading ads on your podcast. I said, well, you shouldn't. I gave him some reasons. He goes, well, then I'm an idiot. What do I know? I'm like, well, this isn't argument. You idiot.

You can't just say, you can't just say, yeah, but I'm a dumb idiot. It doesn't know anything. Like that argument over. Damn, you won. He got me. That's right. More arrogance.

This is him after he did his power ranger set, talking about greatest jokes where. Oh, yeah. Welcome to the fucking podcast, folks. This is what we do did his power ranger set talking about greatest jokes where oh, yeah This is the fucking podcast folks. This is what we do. That's where you drop the intro music I'll close I'll fucking do this shit every time dude. You can't tell me some of those jokes weren't heaters get the fuck out of here Power Rangers just got hit. Yep. Those are home runs all right power ranger just got it Oh, will they recover? She got to be seen the poor power rangers. They had a movie in production. It was cancelled. After that roast.

You know, as far as his jokes are concerned, I did have one. This doesn't fit, I mean, this fits multiple categories. I've got maybe slightly long, but it's his shitty song of the week story, and he helpfully tells us where the jokes are. It's number 15. Constantly harassed to do the show. And from what sounded like a normal person, somebody not autistic, but little that I know, full-blown autism, coke bottle glasses and a horrible spelling of a name, which means stupidity is generational in that household.

And that's another fake laugh just to prove to you that is how jokes work. I will fake laugh at a joke to help you dummies know what the joke is. Okay, usually we would be the ones laughing and then we would know. He's also Casey says is he talking about me? No, he should be talking about you because you spell your name ridiculously He's like about a Brandon who spells his name like a person named Brandon would spell their name. So I'm not even sure What he's talking about More arrogance more arrogance Okay, of course. It's all jokes here guys, you know, cuz I do actual comedy podcasting. I have a very funny show. Right, and I don't need somebody else's content to make me funny. I

Just am I just am funny said the funny comedian That's never been written anywhere ever. All right, more So tell me that Stop pretending like I'm not doing a great job. That's foolish. If I wasn't doing a great job, why are you here? How do you know I'm saying this? Oh, you got me with your legal mumbo jumbo.

Oh, alright. And then the last of I am. It's philosophical. The last of I have for his arrogance. This was really funny. So I think crippled Jesus was tweeting at him or is that Instagram or something. And so Patrick Michael's talking about how

he doesn't put comments on social media. He doesn't have time for that shit. But if he were Dr. Steve. Yes. He'd be the best at it. I defended him against this guy talking shit. He pretended that he was in a wheelchair. He might even be in a wheelchair. But I am that good at writing bullshit online

that I could be this guy. I could be you. I could be you. I could be the guy being happy about writing a cool comment that got a thousand likes. He could be. He chooses not to. That's like Tommy Flanagan.

Why can't speak Russian when I'm in the mood? I love all these things that he could do. If he decided to, like, dude, I can be wealthy and I could have a better life, but I don't want it. I can't leave the flute. I just, I just don't feel like it right now. Okay. It's too funny.

I'm concerned that we're going along with this and I'm sure you'll tighten it up in post, but I've thought we should probably move on to the jealousy question. And then I want to reveal what I think is the real issue. Are you short on time here, Dr. Steve? No, no, no, I don't want to overstate my welcome with your audience. Don't you know what happens when that when you do that?

Oh, I listen I pulled clips for these other ones though, and I do want to get to I do want to get to Okay, no, that's great man. The next question is how likely are you to expect special treatment or favors from others? Okay, here's a good example of that. You should be paying me. You should be paying me. As much as I'm a part of your show, I should get half of everything you make. Half. Alright, so he wants half of my body. That would be expecting special treatment favors from others.

Absolutely. The next one, the next one is his own Patreon. That's true. Why does he have to take your money? Why doesn't he just make good content and then get people to pay for it? That would be the way, that would be a good way to do it.

Self-a-be-el. Give you one of those, Carl. Okay, how likely are you to experience heightened jealousy about the success or accomplishments of others? Yeah, I've got a couple on them. Yeah, this is a good one. This is the, the first one I have here is he's talking about podcasters who have their own home studios who invest

up to $2,000 in equipment. And this is crazy because maybe they won't even be that successful at it. Not a lot of numbers. And yet they have this crazy studio that they've built. Like they have committed themselves fully to this thing that just might not work out. What do you have on this one, Dr. Peef? Yeah, no, it's, well, we know about the wall of headphones.

Sure. So he certainly has... He has quantity over quality as far as his equipment is concerned. Well, he needs 15 different sets of headphones. That's right. I guess I do. I was with the podcast. Yeah, I mean, how else would you do it? But yeah, I mean, obviously he hasn't spent that

and he's irritated by people who have correct us. You know, I sort of see myself in that one. I kind of hurt by what he said. Try, try number 10. I think that one shows some jealousy of the success of others as well. I don't think you should feel hurt. I think you've made it.

Brian, you can't sign that. No, I have not made it in any way. Shape or form, but I enjoy that some people think that I have. Yeah, well, we're in medicine on serious X-time every weekend. Thank week thank you my friend and then you'll get the second half on patreon okay because if you guys can go and shell out five dollars a month for whatever the fuck these idiots are doing you can certainly see what I'm doing jealousy yeah he was talking about you. This is a low operation, daddy.

Produce, edit, promote, record, host. All that's me. I don't have a team. I don't have a producer. I don't have a discord. I don't even have people sending me shit on Instagram. Hey man, you should talk about this. I mean, I do get emails from some people sometimes like, Oh, whoops, cut a line. You should talk about this. I mean, I do get emails from some people sometimes like,

oh, whoops, cut a line. You know this about this guy? Or hey, what about, have you, he mentioned, oh, still don't care. Still don't care, that's not how you, that's not how you make your content. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so, you know, he could have all those things.

And... Kind of does. But he's very, very jealous that you do have those things. I mean, multiple, multiple times, he would say, oh no, I did that song all by myself, like the choral song. Yeah, I didn't have someone send it to me. I mean, you have so many fans that are not unlike the old ONA days that make content and send it to you because it's hilarious.

And you curate the good ones. I get it. A lot of the ones you don't play because I know you haven't played any of my voicemails. So I want to put out a good product. That just, I mean, obviously I got it. It's how that works. So if we're going to talk about jealousy

and experiencing heightened jealousy about the success or accomplishments of others, we have to talk about when he stumbled upon myself on the Chip Chippers and Podcasts on YouTube. And he was not happy about that. I'm glad you pulled this. I'm not against this. I have nothing against Oraclealko doing this.

Good for you. The only thing is, is I guess I would have liked to talk to Kumiya and Norton while they still have all of their faculties. You know, because it's just a matter of time before reading in the paper about people destroying their graves. Oh.

Guys, lashing out a little bit there. Oh yeah, and those, out a little bit there. Oh, yeah. And those, these grapes are sour, too. But Steve, you had talked to me about how he said that he wished that he was the one on the show. And I did find that clip. Oh, you did find it. Okay, good. Thank you.

Here it is. I'm jealous. I'm jealous. I would love to be on a podcast and talk to Kumi on Norton and some gamer chick And then I just wondered I only watch like 60 seconds of it because that's about as much as they use of my Alright, then he was out of say some nonsense, but yeah, I mean he is This is a little bit of insight. Yeah, this is this obvious. And then the last thing I have here for jealousy, this is going back to his Arby's days.

Now, he talks about this scenario where him and another guy started at the same time of this restaurant, and the other guy was promoted before he was, and he was not having it. But I'll tell you what, I did talk shit to everybody I would work with all the time, especially when it when it consisted of jobs that Was not my job that I felt

Remember I'm 17 to 20 years old. I'm rebellious already. I don't want to hear nobody tell me shit So when a friend of mine or a guy who I started working with who's working on the same line becomes a manager And then he gets all up to oh well guy, I'm gonna make your nights bad. I'm coming, I'm coming for your head every night. Can you imagine working with this guy? No, I think that's why he doesn't work anymore. In fact, my buddy Doug from the Jingles department, I was talking to him about this analysis and he has a theory too. I'm gonna let you do, I'm gonna let you wrap up your theory before I get into it.

But based on that clip and some other things I've heard, we have another theory that I wanna run by you. Okay, I'm wide open to other hypotheses because that's all these are. Okay, yeah, my number 18, remember we talked about compensatory narcissists, have, there's an inner child that is shielded by this outward confidence, but when that inner child is damaged, then the outward shield will lash out. So that's

why when these people are criticized, they, you know, they get very angry, or, you know, if they perceive criticism. But the first thing you got to do is demonstrate that there really is an internal trauma or an inner child. And I think my number 18 does that. I mean, most of the guys that even have significant clout on the computer are dweebs. You know, they're the guys that are lucky they made it out of the locker. They're the guys that didn't shower after gym class. And they're still the same guys that will buy a big truck and get tattoos and a beard. But really deep down inside, you're still that little

fat kid that got picked on. And you're upset about it. So you got to fight back. Now, I've been a chubby fat kid my whole life. Yes, you were talking about yourself that entire time. Absolutely. So, what was it about not showering? Did he talk about not bathing at some point? Yeah, you know, all that stuff. He spoke of that with such confidence and kind of an honest detail, I would say. Quite detailed.

And it was very sort of calm and confident when he said this. He wasn't just pulling this out of thin air like he does a lot of times. And to me, that sounded like he was speaking from experience. And so that, and then when I understood that, then I kind of got about everything. Because yeah, he's the Chubby Fat Kid that got bullied in school. All this stuff about him and his friends bullying other people are most likely. I'm guessing, it's just a guess that he's talking about himself. And so this, all of this external confidence comes from shielding himself from that internal trauma as a kid and that poor self-image that he has.

So that's a theory. I think that you've made a good argument for that today, Dr. Steve. Everybody from the Jinguist Department sat in the article and he studied Patrick Michael quite a bit. He thinks he has oppositional defiant disorder, ODD. Let me read to you what this entails. Now, I know a little bit about this, but okay, go ahead, we'll read it for everybody. A disruptive, impulsive control and conduct disorder marked by a negativeistic hostile

and defiant behavior toward authority figures persisting for at least six months. Yeah, well. Yeah, we're 30 years. Pretty good, yeah. Okay, next one. ODD often manifests through excessive stubbornness, revenge-seeking, oppositionality,

and blaming of others for wrongdoing. Can we give ourselves a bell on that at what Dr. Steele? Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give you one. The issue with oppositional defiant disorders, we generally see this in pediatric patients. Correct, this is a child disorder, correct? Right, right, right. Which is why I'm buying it.

Next one is verbal aggression and outburst common, but you not include aggression toward people or animals or destruction of property. So this is him ranting into the microphone, but that's where it happens right there. Now we know for a fact that's not where that happens. So maybe that was not the best example. Next one is linked to inconsistent neglectful

or overly harsh parenting. Interesting. In consistent or neglectful parenting. We know his father was seven. So that's something. Yes, okay, so that's something. And then high comorbidity with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

Yes. Sounds right. And then the last one increased risk for anxiety, depression, anti-social behavior and substance use disorders, which we know that drinking did not mix well with Patrick Michael. We do know that. I don't know that. Yeah. And the Do You Party podcast, he talked about how after he get drunk, he would take

a bath and then puking his bath water. Oh no. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a good thing. Sounds like maybe it was a problem. So I'm looking at an article about ODD and adults. And in adults, they often lose their temperature. Temperature, they often lose their temper. They argue with family and coworkers.

They defy or refuse to comply with rules and laws. Deliberately annoy people. That sounds more like some other people I know. I know what it's anything for it, though. The host of a podcast that anyway, okay, blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior easily annoyed by others, angry and resentful, spiteful or vindictive. But it says here that adults with ODD are more than just aggressive and irritating from time to time.

They feel mad at the world every day and lose their temper regularly. This may manifest as verbal abuse or road rage and they defend themselves relentlessly when someone says they've done something right. Well, you know, these things obviously all overlap. I don't disagree with that. I think your buddy is pretty smart to have pulled this one out. Doug is a very smart guy, but he does say he's not a medical professional. He just runs a recording studio. So take that with a great assault.

Also, I want to point out what Patty's been doing lately that's getting him tons of views. This video went up June 20th. It already has 578 views on YouTube. This is impressive. I don't know if you heard this yet, Dr. Steve. I am not. Oh This is animal crossly it's called you vocal freestyle, new 2021.

Is he playing the instruments on ladder? Is that a track? No, it's just, it's a vocal freestyle. So he's just screaming over pre-made music. I think because I, I'm gonna have to be honest, I was in a grind core band called Asmaggett back in the day and that actually sounded better than what we said. All right, you're going to send in some ass maggot.

I'm going to do this. Do you have any recordings of this? Yes, and that will never have come on. Can we put on a patron episode? Come on. Oh, we'll see. Well, maybe see, I do I can talk about it. It's so bad.

It's so dude. It's so bad. I do it. It's so bad. Well, why would you would think it would sound good? That name kind of tells me it's not going to be great. Right. The titles of our songs were good. One was called F the Decade.

And, well, I'll just say it was fuck the Decade. And then we had one called ingestion of crack-horred giblets. So there you go. So you guys are like anal con. Like reading the back of the CDs, the best part. Yes, of course. Yeah, or a corkis or one of those, yeah. No, anal con always had the funniest.

They're the best. Sog titles, for sure. I never thought I'd be on a podcast talking to Dr. Steve about anal con. But here we are. So, oh, so I wanna hear some of the comments underneath that video. Yeah, absolutely.

Oh, comments are turned off. There will be no comments. Oh, shocker. All right, last thing I wanna leave you with is my theory. I'm possible mental disorders that our friend Patty Seacup is experiencing. And it's this thing called, I like you D. Are you familiar with I like you D?

I am not, so. Oh, okay. It's a low IQ disorder. I think he's just a dumb guy. I think he's just a really dumb guy. Yeah, there may be some of that, big. He said, you know, you think of dumbness is that maybe the inability to synthesize, you know, a new thought from old thoughts in

any kind of cogent way and in that regard, he certainly may fit the bill. Yeah, I just have one more clip here that I think is interesting. This isn't some nerdy dude doing a fucking podcast about movies or about other podcasts, okay? This is a guy who's just having a conversation with himself essentially hoping that you enjoy it. You can laugh, you can hate it, all those things, but you can also shut the fuck up. That is a part of it, okay?

And that goes for anybody who thinks that they like the show, they need to ask me if I'm okay, they need any of that shit, bro Keep that to yourself. I don't give a fuck. I'm not looking for your for your friendship. All right, that might be more evidence of ODD Well, and it encompasses everybody if you like the show you hate the show doesn't matter Just shut the fuck up. It's correct. It's brilliant. Yeah, you don't have to answer to anybody. Oh Dr. Steve we've done it, we've done it all. We've done it all today.

I want to thank you so much for coming on. We may have done too much, but I really appreciate the opportunity and it was fun. Remember, this is for entertainment purposes only. We're not making any diagnoses. And we're also not, you know, whatever, making fun of people with mental illnesses, we're just making fun of a person that we admire for his tenacity and his, you know, whatever. Yeah, and let me just end it by saying Patrick Michael, please never get help. Please, please always be you, because you're perfect, my friend. He's absolutely perfect.

Absolutely perfect in every single way. All right. Dr. Steve, I had to watch Germany play against Hungary. So I got to cruise. Yeah. But I got to record weird medicine for serious XM Saturday nights at six or seven p.m. and Sundays at five p.m. and other times at Jim McClure's pleasure. And also the podcast wherever you get podcast from weird medicine.

It is a very different type of medical show and one that's highly entertaining. So people should check out. Thanks, Madison. Yes. Thank you so much for the time. And I'll see you August 28th. I've got my tickets. That just my plane tickets today. Beautiful. That your Steve will be in Lombard, Illinois for our live show. And you should be too wht t p live dot com I'm

looking forward to that buddy. I can't wait. Oh cool. Well that was a lot of fun. Please join us again next week. It might be the episode we find out once of for who are these podcasts. Leave well every pony. Party in the must this of morning radio. I'm going to start cutting out that music after that. That's enough my gal. Okay. Great show. Good job, everybody. Great job, everyone. I'm gonna start cutting out that music after that. That's enough of that. All right.

[♪ Music playing in background, we feel, we feel, we feel, we feel, we feel, with Vic. Whack, whack, whack. Vic, we got any new reviews you wanna read for us? Yeah, I only have two for you. Apparently Bobby Lee isn't as popular as he used to be. That we're going to review, do you want to read for us? Yeah, I only have two for you. Apparently Bobby Lee isn't as popular as he used to be. Interesting, okay. So this one is by Love Meam 88.

He says, stop hating. Their episode about Comtown is so pathetic. You can basically hear them crying, oh shit. As they talk about it, do you know why the come town despite putting in zero effort is so popular and makes more money in a month than they do in two years?

Because unlike this show, despite having zero script, it's absurdly funny. These people let me critiques on podcasts that they themselves do. I guess that's what happens when you're a talent list. Come town is a very funny show, but the episode that I listen to do the very first episode I podcasts that they themselves do. I guess that's what happens when you're a talent list.

Come town is a very funny show, but the episode that I had listed to the very first episode I listened to was not funny. They are hit or miss. Let's all face it. I think we can all agree on that. If Nick Baldwin doesn't find a rhythm, it's pretty bad. I think he just worst episode of review Carl. That's what happened with the Financial feminism right? Yeah, some of the other shows. Oh, other episodes are great. I'm sure I'm guessing that's a one-sided review That was actually a five. Oh shit. Fuck me. It did have 88 in the title, right and user name Yeah, yeah, which of course we all know means hell Hitler So obviously a fan of who are

these podcasts. Of course. All right. What else? This next one and last one is transition. Since Carl is a female to male work in progress, I'll give him a pass for being friends with Pito Kumia. That's good. Work in progress. Yeah. Progress in that perfection, that's what I always say. That's a fun one. Cool, let's listen to some voicemails together, shall we? What the fuck? Oh, by the way, I should mention, this is the guy who we tried to call.

You remember you left him a voicemail? Yeah, the trucker. Yeah, so apparently he was like taking a nap when we called him and he called me a bunch of times. Call me back again. Let me voicemails. What the fuck? Of course.

I don't even know how I got home from, you know, trucking and I'm just, I'm thankful. I appreciate it, you know, from the deepest parts of my heart to call, means more, you know, it's better off, I would have fucked it up, I would have, that's something weird, you know, I got a home and I started watching Westerns, I'm really into Westerns right now. I've been watching just a f*** kind of Western. Cool dude. Yeah, I've been watching Bad Man, which is alright. It's not enough killing or not for me, but f***ing those off on the couch. You know what? You don't have that on these big jobs. Appreciate the call, Carl. Vic, you too. I hated you at one point in time, Vic, but you turned around on me. You want him over.

It's whatever now. I'm happy you found him true love. Carl, I don't know what to tell you. I'll go in the podcast tomorrow. I'm prematurely sending you a voicemail because I see that you left me on which is pretty dope ski. This is going on too long. Bye. Oh no.

I like how he says I've been watching Westdoons. It's alright. Sad and ask. That's what you were doing. What you're up to. Really high standards. He's having for you that you found you're up to. Really high standards. He's happy for you that you found true love, Vic.

Oh, amazing. It's like, I think we're all, listen, if I can be honest, I think the entire WOTP family is happy for you that you found true love. Yeah, I don't know how it happened. It's really incredible. It's incredibly fun, a mussely boy from high school to Mario. So he called back after listening to the episode, actually a few times, he wanted to

tell Eric Xanico fuck himself for goofing out his last name. Apparently he's heard that all of his life. And he also wanted to tell us he's very depressed and hates his life. And dude, I love you. I gotta say that's not the way into Vic's heart. Vic is not into like the self-pity guys. You gotta be a macho marine, you know? You gotta work out every day and be a cool Chad. That's the way you get Vick. I don't know about that, like every guy updated has used,

he used to be fat. So apparently I'm into like X fatties. Right, people turn the restaurant, that's what I'm talking about. This guy is depressed. He's watching Westerns sleeping on the couch like, dude, turn the round. You want to be a success story? That's that's what women are attracted to.

Yeah. I'm either that or I'm just like extremely fat, phobic room. Like, oh, thank God. I'm going to turn that around. I got bad news for you though. A lot of time these guys resort back, especially after being married a couple of years, like you could only be a non-faddy for so long when your nature is to be a fatty. So careful. Oh my god. No, I learned how to cook for that. So I think we're good.

Okay, you're just not gonna feed them. That'll work. That'll work. You ever hear of a grub hub? They'll figure it out. They'll figure out how to get fat. All right, this person really wants us to call him back. If all I got to do to hear back from fucking you, and you get your car back, it's Sam on fast, fucking, slide truck driver was ready to come, so. But I would have done this fucking months month ago I ain't even fucking saying nothing

and it's true I'm a fast fucking truck driver who's gonna want to crash and run, run, run, call me back. How's this? You don't call me back when I fucking blow my brains through my fucking head and splatter my fucking kitchen wall. It's on you Carl. Good for you, fuck off. Yeah. Anyway, call me back if she wouldn't mind. It was not too much trouble. It's not, well, live with yourself, I guess. Wait, wait or do it. Sir, I did not negotiate with terrorists, okay? You cannot threaten me in that manner.

I will not be threatened in that manner. You have really positive optimistic fans, Carl. What happened? I'm so much fun. I don't get him. Okay. Okay. My vote for, well, this is under the general call.

I'd like to throw my hand at TDI, Deadpool. I'd say $50. I'm going to throw my hand at TDI, Deadpool. I'd say $50. I'm going to throw my hand at TDI. I'm going to throw my hand at TDI. I'm going to throw my hand at TDI. I'm going to throw my hand at call uh... i'd like to throw my hand in the i'd get full of the fifty dollars uh... if i win then uh... they get like free paid for a while if i lose them you know i'd subscribe to

their actual major uh... i want both of you guys i vote for booby uh... the air thing maybe a cancer but uh... my big thing is he can do. He can't like that type of narcissist to kill himself and try and blame it on all the haters. So my guess is for OP. So yeah, good job Carl.

It comes back at a podcast exactly. You sir are officially in the death pool with OP. You are not going to win that. That guy's going to outlive us all. He is like a cockroach in the Southern Johns apartment. He will outlive all of us. Oh, for the death pool, you actually had Alex Jones. Oh, yes, thank you.

Thank you for reminding me. I couldn't remember. Alex Jones. Oh, yes, thank you. Thank you for reminding me. I couldn't remember. Alex Jones is in rough shape. So yes, Alex Jones and Andy took Suddering John. I believe so. I know that the need to listen that closely to your fucking podcast. I know you don't.

And it's so funny because I don't say this as a joke. As soon as I'm done podcasting or editing the podcast, it's not in the next thing. I forget everything we talked about. It makes it tough for the creep off because we set up the show by talking about what happened on the last week's show and I'm like, I don't know. All right. All right.

Professional podcast right there. Oh boy. Oh dear. All right, your friend, cripple Jesus called. Oh boy. All right, your friend, cripple Jesus, called. Hey, Barle, it's me, cripple Jesus. This is how I thought. Anyway, Carl, have I mentioned that my legs don't work yet?

I'm a sergeant. Because I am. Vic, you should send me some feedback. So I know what they look like. Cause my don't work. Do you get it? I do. Call the back. Quarrel.

That's CJ calling a while. I got to say. Guys on point. I think CJ actually did text me and Request that in exactly that manner. So he hit it nail in the head. No shit. Yeah Wow, I Mean, I don't know what it's like to live your lifestyle, but have all these celebrities want to get with you This is really really impressive

properties want to get with you. Well, yes, the liberty really aggressive. Liberty is amazing. The next person. You can walk the red carpet you asked all this next person is going to give talk about the surprise ending in our live show.

Kazuru looking forward to your live. A T P Me too. Events in the Chicago land area coming up I'm calling first dibs. I know the secret ending the surprise is gonna be everyone's gonna run a train on Gen. From the Jingle Department, and I'm gonna be right there up with the engine. Yep, say a few coral You gotta be the caboose. Okay, buddy. You're gonna be the Ron Jeremy of the Houston 500 when it comes to when we run the train Of the day for the JBL WATP 500 when it comes to when we run the train

So it's a bit are you gonna be jealous of everyone's run of the trade on general department? I'll be very thankful. Okay Okay, fair. Oh You don't like fat people. That's right. Okay. No, I remember. Hey, Carl, this is Mike calling from the Corrections Department. You've mentioned on numerous occasions how Severin Johnson's the phrase, coming down the pike. Based on the way you've been imitating it, in the last afterwards, it sends the message that you think pike, P-I-K-E, is the wrong work for that phrase. The fact is, Carl Pike is correct. The corrections department asks that you please Google things

before you mock and mentally retarded man. Thanks, bye. So I'm aware that coming down the pike would be correct if the paperwork were actually on its way. I'm goofing on the fact that it's a bluff. Nobody says, I will sue you, it's coming down the pike. They just actually sue someone, they serve them papers. So that's what I'm goofing on, sir.

Coming down the pike is funny, because he thinks I'm gonna be shaking in my boots and I'm wearing sandals. So that will not be happening. All right, let's talk's talk about our patreon shall we? Fag slappers out there that are hesitant about joining the patreon fucking just Really enjoyed listening to Carl's little brother get dumped on three times in a row with his own show format

can't really beat that so Keep it up Carl and You better bring him right Okay, so only that that's right when we did our most recent bonus episode Brandon from Shitty song of the week was on and We did a little segment where we picked the shittiest songs from three different bands and I just fucking eliminated him. I was three and all, no contest. I was just, I mean, heroic would be a good word to use for my performance. Jaw-dropping.

People should really... I'm not sure. I think jaw-dropping is better. People should really sign up for the Patreon. When you sign up, you don't just get these two bonus episodes We talk about every single month. You get the entire back catalog and we're up till dozens and we probably have 50 episodes up there and They're fan fucking TASIC Tucker Dixon calls into the show Hey, Carl Tucker call him back. I just listened to the end of the episode. Keep you seeing tickets from Jackson to Illinois or two expensive.

They're $280 right now. And that's like the high price. Like you get them lower for like two 60 if you wait a little bit. I guess dirt farming is not worth it. Anyways, Tucker, I'll get a real job. Casey, yeah, I don't think dirt farming does make a lot of Anyways, Tucker, I'll get a real job, Casey. Yeah, I don't think dirt farming does make a lot of money to be honest with you.

No, it's just a patriarchy, all right? She went to school and everything for her dirt. It's a patriarchy really dragging her down, Carl. You might be right, she's a scientist. And she can't afford $280 to fly to Chicago. Yeah. I wish someone would sponsor Casey. If there's anybody out there with money

who likes really nice natural breasts in a wet t-shirt, if we could sponsor her and get her to the Chicago show, that'd be fan fucking tastic. Oh, this is a guy we haven't heard from him a while. In a while, and I was excited to hear that he called in. Yeah, man, what the fuck girl? You know, if you're a voicemail, a guy we haven't heard from him a while in a while and I was excited to hear that he called in. So, Bavaria's guys have said I didn't play one of his voice mails, which I play all of his voice mails. What people need to understand, I had a lot of them this week, sometimes they just sound like shit,

I can't play them, like your connection sucks. You're cutting out, and there's eight seconds at a time that's just gone. It's like, well, I don't know what you're talking about, I can't hear what you're saying. I'm not going to play your voice mail. Do better, try harder, is what I'm saying. Oh good, so you expect quality

on this really shitty podcast? I liked it. As you said, quality, you were breaking up. That was perfect. Beck, you are, you're good. You're a proud. Yeah, what do I say? Prostio.

Hey, Carl. I was in Rochester last week visiting the university. And I just wanted to say that it was one of the most depressing and soul-crushing places that I've ever been to. Your personality makes a lot more sense to me right now. Correct, yes, thank you. And you were in Rochester during the summer when it's nice. Imagine being there in January.

It's soul-crushing. It's fucking soul-crushing. The same guy called back. Hey, I'm leaving another message completely unrelated to the last one, but I was listening to the phone this episode. And I just thought it was a little funny how Siddharne John, he always, when he's talking to like a customer service representative, he's always a big shot. Do you know who I am? But when he's talking about the lawsuit, of course, he's just a little guy and he's being taken advantage of. I just thought it was pretty funny how he just likes to switch the script, depending on who he's talking to.

Anyways, come back. Another brilliant observation, how did I not pick up on this? These, so three times he's talked about this lawsuit and all three times he's like, out of the way you're rooting for serious exome, a big corporation, how would Stone, I'm just the little guy. Why wouldn't you for the little guy? And then the Verizon store guy said he couldn't get my mom a phone. I'm like, I got a big social media following, Bob. He likes to have it both ways. That's a day.

In multiple ways. It's very impressive. All right. Well, Vic, again, thank you very much. I want to say Eric Zane texted me four times during that episode. He should know when I'm fucking podcasting and things like that. They're going well for surely so I'm very happy to hear that. All good news and you were fantastic today, Vic. Thanks for joining the show. Anything you want to plug? No, just send me a text and tell me how bad it was. Yes, if you're on our Patreon, another reason to sign up is you get Vic's actual cell phone number. And you can text her all times of day and night.

And she will likely send back feet picks and nudes and whatever you request. She's cool like that. Yeah, sure. We'll go with that. Come on, Beck, I'm trying to sell my picture out here. Help me out. Okay. I'm just like the dick show crossover.

Uh, yeah, that's right. We got to do one of those soon. I feel like Dicks get a little busy with the biggest problem in the universe. Coming back. They're great though. I believe you and the dust for that shit. By the way, they are great. I like Vito on that show too. By the way, Dick actually called into our show,

our bonus show that I did with Brandon from Shitty's talking in the week because again, Patty Seacup's going off on Ricky Masterson. So we got to go through that, which is also a lot of fun to listen to. Okay, that's more plugin than I usually do, but you know, blackjack tables don't pay for themselves. Vic, great to talk to you, my friend. Of course. We'll talk to you again soon.

I gotta go. Goodbye. Goodbye. God, is this crazy? Am I right that this could be a reoccurring bit on the show? It's 50. I don't think she's going to release that many episodes. I know, but like I said, I got 20 clips from 12 minutes.

I don't know how I can, I don't know how I could ever run out of material with this woman. She's a crazy person. Yeah, it's, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad.