Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep268 - The Steve and Kyle Podcast

Episode Date: July 18, 2021

The producer from the Free Beer and Hot Wings show and some guy who interned there for a day do a weekly podcast. What is it about? Seriously, I'm asking. I listened to two episodes and don't have a clue. Former Opie and Anthony producer Erik Nagel joins the show as we break down Patty C Cups vs Jerry Banfield, Amber Alerts, Stuttering John's political savvy, and Todd Pettengill's career.  https://allmylinks.com/itseriknagel    Support us and get bonus episodes: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Get tickets to our very first live show near Chicago on August 28th http://watplive.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I might have a very exciting announcement coming up about that. So please get your tickets before they sell out. Also, we encourage our listeners to give us a five star review and Apple podcasts. Then shit all over us in the comments section. We'll be reading reviews later on in the show, but first, today we'll be reviewing a podcast called The Steve and Kyle Podcast. This was a suggestion from Jeremy. We have both listened to this separately.

We have not discussed it. We've just beforehand, let's get into it. This is a show that's hosted by Steve and Kyle. Now Steve is the producer of the Free Beer and Hot Wings radio show, and Kyle was an intern on that show for about six days. So they both have some type of radio background. I'll read you what the about on their Facebook page says. Please do.

Because Eric, this is not even a sentence. It's like the radio without the commercial's talent, expensive equipment, and on the internet. That is very accurate from the episode that I listen to. Well, the problem here is, I'm just gonna get into some grammar. It's like the radio without the, okay, without the commercials, talent, expensive equipment, on the internet. Are there no commas?

Without the internet? It's just a word of the correctly, because these people are idiots. Oh yeah, of course. I don't understand the relationship and they don't really explain it. I was trying to look up the history of this show and there's not a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

I mean, there's episodes, but one guy produces a, you know, a successful syndicated radio show and the other guy interned for them kind of for a little bit. Like, how does that become a friendship? Like, how does that whole relationship work? They're like, hey, you know what? I'm almost successful. I didn't make it to the show.

Let's do a show together. So I have a note on here. These guys are the definition of two dudes who treat podcasting like it's their bowling league night. Like they just want to be able to get together and this is just an excuse to hang out. Oh, sorry, got to hang out with Kyle. We're doing the show tonight.

And they've been doing it. That's the last document it. They've been doing it weekly for five years. Their first show dropped in July of 2016. So these are not guys who are a flash in the pan. Like, oh, we'll see if it works out. They've been doing that. They should be good at it at this point. You would think trying to also see they have very little interaction for any of their posts, social media wise. Yeah. So I'm curious as to who's listening to this. If I mean, if the fan base from the

show that they work on isn't even listening to this, who's listening to this? What's interesting, I don't know a lot about free beer and hot wings. Obviously, I'm friends with Eric Zayn now and we reviewed that show. But the person who suggested we do this is a listener and he said, producer Steve is the least liked person on air on free beer and hot wings. And no one there is charismatic. So I can't imagine what being the least interesting person on free beer and hot wings sounds like a capy gun. No, not at all. And I'm not shitting on freebeer and hot wings. I've checked them out time to time. You can. Yes. Over the years, look,

for what they are, I don't know how that show works, but it works. And they've carved, I mean, there are like 50 stations. That's nothing to fucking, you know, a scoff at, but I mean, in the, they're succeeding in a world where there's no radio talent anymore, you know, so they're like sort of the last guy left standing. So by default, they're succeeding. They're on 50 stations and they're heard by hundreds of people every single day. It's very impressive. What they're in.

When the majority of your syndication are neighboring towns in Michigan, then yeah, look, yeah, if you were going to say like, we have a lot of stations, yeah, you do. Your reach is not that far. I think the closest they are to New York is like very, very southern New Jersey near Atlantic City. And there's nobody down there. So I don't know who's listening to this. Let's get into a clip or two here. Do you have something that kind of sums up the show or something you want to get into to start off?

Yes, you know what? I can sum up the show right now. It's actually the very first clip, clip one. For the Stephen Kyle podcast with Kyle. Fun fact regarding a retired player, who's going to settle settlement for financial issues regarding it. That is an amazing story though.

Oh, it's fantastic to hear. Maybe we'll have a Bobby Bonilla episode. You think so? Yeah. Can you tell me when so I could skip it? See that whole clip there pretty much leads you into the fact that this is just a cluster fuck you're going to listen to because they're using one that static effect is now I guess the modern record rip when everyone was using that in production.

Yeah. So you have there. And the way they're doing their intro is like with Steve with Kyle, like usually if when they do that kind of hit you get like one out of context exaggerated clip. Like with Steve and then he says, I just killed my family with Kyle. Like you go back and forth. This is a clip of both of them. And then it just kind of trails off.

You still hear the music bed for a couple more seconds before they even get and Steve to the next person. And they do the same thing again. The intro was maddening. It's a generic midi bed. That's the music is not good. No, and then they don't know how to pull clips to make them sound interesting. Your intro is supposed to be selling your show and making it kind of cool and excited that you're listening to the show and like, oh, I can't wait for the show to start. You got to go through this whole minute thing.

You get an idea of what the show is. You're constantly selling yourself every episode you do. And all they're saying is this is not worth your time. Yeah. You should be saying these guys have personalities. You're about to hear some charismatic dudes who are talking about whatever it is they're talking about. This is the promo right after the Kyle one where they do Steve's promo and again to your point

way too long. And Steve. So were you ready for Steve to go home as well? Actually, no boy. Oh boy, that's how to like it. Yes. Yes. I think and I don't know that that should be offensive, right? I mean, everybody's always kind of aging for stuff to be. What, why wouldn't it be offensive when your own flesh and blood says that they were ready for you to leave? So interesting factoid here, and I don't know if you picked up on this, Iraq, but they pull whatever they think was the funniest thing they said on the previous episode. So these little intros change every single week. Oh, yeah. So they put the, oh, that's fucking maddened. So they put the effort into rotating

and updating the production, but not the quality of the production or even the concept of the production. This is Kyle did you know the week before? with Kyle. I like shrimp. Yeah, yeah, exactly coconut. Of course, the main two shrimp, right. And then the third. And it off, not as often. Teriyaki. Yeah. I do shrimp tuna fish, you know, a bumblebee preferable. Maybe chicken to the sea. So the jokes there is he was naming two different brands of tuna fish that you could purchase. And those. You might as well just insert the clip from force gump with bubble listing all the kinds

of shrimp would have been more hilarious than this. And it also sounds like they just send this to Fiverr and somebody in some poor little country just puts this together and go, Hey, there's a clip. Throw that in there and do that every week. This is this is terrible. Yeah, all right, last example, I'm sorry, Eric. I have to do this to you, but this is the Steven draw from the week before.

I know, I know, I'm sorry. I'm Steve. Steve. Oh, video. This is, I didn't think this was gonna be a video. It's easier to see you. I do appreciate how I texted you Matt, FaceTime, and you opened your phone and said,

ah, video like a caveman who first found fire. So, I don't know that it'd be like a caveman who first found fire. I think people are annoyed when you video chat them without warning them first. I think that's an annoying thing to do. Imagine somebody tells you to check out a podcast or a radio show.

Sure. And you drop in for the first time. How a lot of radio shows got people to listen to them. They were tuning the dial. They accidentally found them. Now you're listening to the show. You're supposed to find something that's interesting and appealing to it, right?

And if there's inside jokes, it makes you want to go back and try to find out what the inside jokes are or the references are. What they're doing is you're listening to this and go, I don't even want to spend a second listening to this show. And it's not like I accidentally found it. Somebody introduced me to this.

Somebody told me to listen to this show to check it out and they can't even sell their own show. Their show technically didn't start until 10 minutes in because right after all this horrible production was just non-stop talking about how they had shitty equipment. They didn't know how to use it. They got new equipment. They still don't know how to use it.

And then maybe we can put some of this stuff up on Facebook Messenger because if you'd like to start your own podcast, you can have our shitty equipment that we didn't know how to use. Yeah, I saw they were selling their old board, which happens to be the same board that we're using here at W-H-E-T-F. I'm able to figure out how to make it work. They couldn't figure out. Everybody could.

It's a YouTube tutorial. Even if you couldn't understand the manual, you go on YouTube, there's some idiot out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out.

I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out. It's a YouTube tutorial. Even if you couldn't understand the manual, you go on YouTube, there's some idiot telling you for three minutes.

Oh, this is how you turn the board on. Oh, perfect. Done. You probably have this clip too. The fact that they've been in radio, they work in radio, and they couldn't figure out how to use their equipment to interview someone on their show. Oh yes. This is stuttering John level incompetent. Right. We talked to my brother last week and it probably sounded okay, but the way that we were doing it on our end was just it was like, we had to lean in and talk into the computer, but also talking to our mics because they were just look, we could talk to you about how our

mixer wasn't set up for a mix minus. Yes. But I don't even know what that means. It's the minutia that doesn't matter. All we know is that now we can talk into our microphones. The person on the end of the phone will hear us through our microphones, which is very important. They won't hear themselves back. They won't hear echoes and weirdness. It'll sound like any other, any other phone call.

No one told me there was gonna be boasting. What's insane about this is that this is for nobody. This is not like informative. It's not like they're telling you how they figured out the issue. Like maybe I'm another podcast, I'm trying to figure this out. They don't tell you anything.

Like I don't even understand how we got it to work. We finally got it to work. They're 280 episodes in or something like that. And what they were doing was calling people and using the microphone on their computer to talk to the person person and then the microphone in front of them to talk to the podcast. This is if you walked into your, if you worked in radio, you walked into your studio and there's engineers in your studio that were repairing something, right? This is how they

talk. You walk in and they're discussing this and go, well, I don't need to be in here until they tell me it's done because this is none of my business, but it's also extremely boring. Look, they work in radio. How do you not know what a mixed mind is if I'm just saying for people who work in radio, it's exactly what they just explain the next thing. It's like, well, we don't know what a mixed mind is, but what we're trying to do is this and this and this, you just define the fucking thing. So you didn't know what you were talking about.

You just explained it to yourself and you still didn't know what you were talking about. You just explained it to yourself and you still didn't know what you were talking about. I'm starting to think a lot of these radio producers who have been on big shows, I think of like Brent Hattley as one example, don't know shit about putting together a radio show or how it works. Yeah, I don't get it.

I don't get it at all. I, and it can't just be like, at least with the O&A staff, the majority of us knew all the technical ins and outs of how all this worked. We knew if the phones went down, we could fix that. We knew if, hey, we're not connecting to the other studio, we can fix that. I think Carl just crapped out. Maybe he's learning how to fix that. But I love the year back. good. But yeah, we knew how on the fly, you know, if it was a major thing,

something had to be replaced in the board or a circuit card or anything like that. Yeah, we'd have to get engineering down, but if we're live on the air, as a producer, you're supposed to know how to fix the computer, reboot all this shit, how to connect everything to everything as like, you kind of m'giver everything.

Well, that's part of the job, and I'm with you, of maghiver everything. That's part of the job. And I'm with you. I'm amazed how many people that I've run into in this business that don't know how to do that, that don't know how to archive their own show, that don't know how to even do good show prep as far as getting stuff in material for the host to read. Well, I think the difference is.

And they don't do any of this. So it's like, what are you doing here? How did you get into this job? You worked on a show, though, where OP would murder you if the phones lines weren't available. So you had to figure out shit. Snowy's trying to call it. The phone lines are down. That's not going to go out. I'm going to go a little inside baseball here. So sometimes when the phones went down, um, wasn't us. Sometimes it, the way serious, and even at CBS at the time when we were there,

they were all, you know, there's just as big conglomerate of stations, all in one spot. So a lot of everything goes to an engineering room. So if they were doing something back there and the phones went down, it wasn't just us. It was us, it was shade 45, it was entertainment weekly,

it was all the studios around us. That was once in a while. The majority of the time was that he can't stop fidgeting with things at his board and he would disconnect everything right as the show started because the show would start. Mars would do a full check like an hour before and then a half hour before and then I like about 10 minutes before when open coming, I'd go through, make sure, all right, he can see the monitors connecting to the other studio, the phones are working, whatever. We'd launch the show. I'd be in the room, either Travis and I are launching the show, the intro's playing and we would do this big full, produced intro, like you're supposed to do for radio. The show would start and he

would give out the thing and he's like, again, the equipment doesn't work the phone. And we'd look at each other like, it just worked. What did he do? And you walk over and it's like, Oh, he's fidgeting with everything. He disconnects the server for the phones. And you got to go back in. Now, that's not shit. Not all because there's other stuff that people should on him for. But I mean, that was just one of those weird thing habits he had where he'd move all the mouse and everything around and then turn everything off. That's funny too. And I used to think I'm like,

is he self sabotaging on purpose? And I was like, I don't even think he realizes he's doing it anymore. Well, because it kept happening all the time. It's funny you say that because I remember very vividly the streak of time when he'd be like, oh my God, it's not working again. I almost felt like that was his bit, right?

That he wanted everything to be broken so we could bitch about it. Yes, that's a fail. It's got to be. Because it was happening all of it, it was like a reoccurring thing. And it felt so bad for Myers and I was like, what are you doing?

Why is this thing? I remember that people coming in and going, we just had it working. I don't know what you're mean. I don't know how it's broken right now. There'd be times like, especially if we were starting the show and for some reason we had a guest at the top of the show, which normally doesn't happen, but now you got to talk about it. I got to talk about hoarders first. I had to run in there. I had to push past

Anthony. I had to move physically move, opi in his chair away from the console, like into the wall. So I could go and reset the thing real quick so we could get whoever was back on the phone. But it was things like that. It's like, you guys are very cool. Everything's there. They got all the prep, all the food, water, everything's good.

You go into the other room, two minutes in, the show starts, and then everything's broken again. And you just put your head in your hand and go, why am I here? Why am I here? Well, that kind of segues into my next clip, which by the way, speaking of segway. That's funny.

Somebody in your chat just said, much house and radio. That's not bad. Yeah, I like it. But speaking of what we're just talking about, we have a guest coming up. Speaking of what we were just talking about, is not a segway, but anyway,

this is what I wanted to say. When they start off the show, they start by testing their equipment for some reason. Test, test. One, two. Boy, history has been made today. Look at this for the first time in three years. We upgraded some equipment? I think so. Maybe we upgraded a cable or two. Swapping out cables is not upgrading equipment. First off, secondly, you mean to tell me that your

first time seeing if the equipment works or not, you're on a podcast on a radio station. Tuss Tuss is this thing working? Yeah, do that and then hit your intro. Why do they have been so enact, right? They're not this. dog. No, they are. Unfortunately, they are. Also, the, I just realized this too, I was like, we have our guest from the other clip that you played. The guest is his brother. They're hyping this up. Like they got it, you know, a well-known comic, maybe another famous podcaster, maybe even some sort of celebrity or newsmaker is. It's like, oh no, it's his brother. That's the big yes. That's the big yes.

That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes.

That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes.

That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That's the big yes. That with the non-event that is this podcast. So they start off another episode the exact same way. This is before they got all their upgraded equipment. Of course they do. And the mixer is close enough to the edge of the table. And she is now tall enough where little hands reach up and knobs are turned and feeders are adjusted. So there's a very good chance that that the Terrible all in the audio quality is brought to you by Evelyn today. Yeah, notice the what is going on cupcake an ice cream cart has moved It's a little closer to us than it usually is who gives a shit who gives a fuck So I guess this is like their stick like like, I know it sounds like garbage,

but what are you gonna do? I got a toddler running around, you know, it's gonna happen. I need to. You know what, I didn't, I should have done this, and I didn't think to do it till just now. If this is how they start every show, I would love to just dig back in their archive to find the first week of show,

or the first four shows, and see if they all started the same way. Like if you did your first show and you did this, it still sucks, but you kind of give them a margin of error because they're learning how to do this. They're, what, 215, 16 episodes in and they're still doing this. That's the interesting. They're still trying to figure out,

oh, I got to turn the mic on for us to talk. Damn it, okay, I got to write that down. But it's got to be like a radio thing, they're trying to pull off, right? Well, I don't know man, this board. No, I bet you, like I don't really even know the content of Free Beer and Hot Wings, but I bet you they don't start their show saying,

the mics aren't working. Oh, remember when we had that old board and it wouldn't work and now this one's doing the same, and like for 10 minutes on commercial radio, they're not doing that. Yeah, that's a good point. All right. Yeah. If Hot Wings Mike isn't going, guess what? Freebears plowing right over him and continuing pretending that his mic is working and just

ignoring it until they go to break. What's talking? I wish they would do that. Let's talk a bit more about the production on this show because it is not impressive. It's there. It's the production because there's no content. This is a segment they do called the poll recap. Now they put polls out on Twitter and Facebook, which are just dynamite content.

Yes, let's do it. Time to see how wrong everyone else is. It's poll recap time. Find the polls at Stephen Kyle on Facebook Twitter and Instagram Oh boy, did we get Melissa Vaughn to go back into the lab called her back? No, we didn't we need three words No, sir I went I went into this lab here and did a little editing and made her say other things worked out well What kind of what mean what what kind of imaging is that?

So it's gotta be fiber. It has to be. Because the waste shit is edited, the waste stuff is mixed. That voice person is not really a voice person, but thinks they're a voice person. It has to be, they're doing a fiber service or something. They can't be this inept at producing their own show.

They didn't even put the mini track at the back, or at least put the mini track in there. So I know that there's a new segment coming up. Yeah, it just sounded like somebody interrupted their conversation to say something. I was like, oh wait, that was production. That was something to separate into the next segment. And it just sounds like somebody walked up

to the mic and started talking to them. So with an accent, so you know that it obviously is a new segment. The person has an accent in class because that's the edgy thing too. You know, they used to do that and I think it was an alt rock radio. They started putting in British women mixed into the, you know, with the American rock guy, they'd have the British woman kind of accent. And it was like 92, 3 K rock. And the girl was saying the K rock part while the'd have the British woman kind of accent. And it was like 92, 3 K rock. And the girl was saying the K rock part. Well, the guy said the 92, 3 thing.

It's an old method or an old way of doing production. And they're not even doing it right. They're not doing it right. If that's not what this is doing, it right. So one of the polls they had on there was, you've heard of little Havana. Is there a big Havana? Is there a big Havana in Cuba? Because there's Havana. There's little Havana. Yes. So there's got to be a big Havana. Where does little come from? Because there's a Chinatown in, you know, a ton of city, but it's not like a little China.

Yeah, I don't know. So why is it big, a van, a little, a little Italy? B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b- it's careful, they're carefully choosing their words, but their brain can't process fast enough to make coherent statements just from talking. And then you're doing this, you know, attempting for a living to speak on the radio so other people can hear this. Who, I was seriously getting mad at you, Carl, for making me listen to this.

You should be. I agree. We get into a little bit, when they had the guest for this current episode. Yeah. Was really driving me crazy. But they just, how do you work on a successful show and not know how to speak or not pick up anything from the hosts that you're working for or the way the show is done? They don't know anything.

There's a clip. We go back a little bit that I had clip four. It explains their background and it's in direct contrast to how they're actually producing the show. I had every, like I got everything kind of set up, but it's set up like temporarily because inevitably we're going to have to switch things up, move things around or something. But I was like, and this mixer, I know it inside and out. And then we started 15 minutes ago trying to record. And it was like, huh, what this button does. Yeah, we've been, it's been about 35 minutes. And it should come as no surprise that there were a, I can't call it a litany,

that there were a, I can't call it a litany, just because there wasn't, I mean, it was one issue that, you know, where it's the mixer, and that we're trying to figure out. So it should come as no surprise though, that there are these issues tech-wise with this show, because it's kind of what we do. We have been plagued by them, plagued, and again, there's two college

degrees and a person who works in radio here full time, which makes it all the more remarkable, Steve. Yeah. Yeah. Ask someone to work. Are you going into my room? Ask them about it. Right. But here's the thing. They just said there's two people here with college degrees. Yeah. And one that works in professional radio. And they're plagued with tech issues. They 200 plus episodes and they're constantly plagued with tech issues. How do you not figure this out after what five years of doing this? And that's why I'm curious if maybe this is something that fills time for them because they're not interesting people, they can't carry on a conversation. It reminds me of when Drew Lane talks about dream weavering. You listen to a show and there's people having a conversation and you zone out and you go, oh shit, I was just listening to that for the last five minutes, I have no idea what they

said. Because they don't have any personality in their voices, they talk very monotone and dry and the content's boring and they're not funny. I don't know why this is a show. Yeah, I don't know. There was no answer for that. You said I don't know why this is a show. I get it again, if this was their first year or under six months and they were attempting to do this, you cut them a little slack because they're going to figure this out eventually and they

still haven't. So they haven't figured this out. They've been ripped on that pole they had on whether there was a big avana or not. And the reason why this pole exists is because they had a conversation the week before that wasn't the first time they were ripping on this concept. Man, little Havana just humming with the party scene that is maybe little Havana, or is that big Havana? Little Havana, is there a big Havana?

Well, like, is that on the pole? Is it little Havana? Like, all the fake Havana's and like Miami, like little Italy? Yeah, obviously, so obviously you would then travel to Italy and call it yes TSA officer I'm heading to big Italy today alright we need that on the pole yeah is there a big Havana in Havana in Cuba yes or is it or do they just refer to it as Vanna

and what's the deal is West Virginia? There's no East Virginia. This is a nervous banter. And you're talking to somebody that maybe you admire, maybe it's somebody that you're possibly romantically interested in, and you're awkward, and you don't know how to be comfortable in your own skin. And they're doing this for everyone to hear. This is just uncomfortable, batter, that they don't know how to talk within themselves. And they're apparently their friends forever and they don't know how to talk to each other.

That's a good point. It's almost like they're trying to impress each other. Like, oh, yeah, I can rip both you on that, right? Big of an-a, big Italy, because there's a little Italy. Can we make out now? Here's another poll that came up that you're going to find's a little Italy. Can we make out now? Here's another poll that came up that you're gonna find, Rivening. How do you mow your lawn?

Options for vertical, diagonal, horizontal. Now this was rife for a conversation in the comments. You did debate. Oh, I could think was. These guys will be really good Twitter fouls because if they're talking about which way you're going That's exciting shit who gives a shit about how you mo your lawn I get annoyed when you're watching a baseball game and they're in your teams at a different field

I'm like why are they cutting the field in that pattern that looks stupid and then they go to this stadium That looks stupid too all of this is dumb. This is like Hank Hilshett. Yeah, I got one more example here for ya. Are you always ready to go home before vacation is over? I think that's a really common feeling. This is closer than I thought. 49% of the audience said yes. 51% of the audience said no. I would have thought that the majority

would have said yes on that. By a significant amount, I would have thought 60, 70%. That's fascinating, Please go on. You need to be boring to write this question, but to also answer the question means you're a very boring person. Do you not own a VR headset? What are you doing? There was another one that was, our wallet photo still a thing. Like, why not ask, do you travel to town by way of horse and buggy? What the fuck are wallet photos still a thing? Are they?

No! No! You have a phone! Are you a hypocrite, says are they? E-rock, do you want to get into this guest that they had on their show from another guest? No, but here's the thing that's with this guest. So the guest was annoying me, right? But the guest show is at the same company I worked for.

So, no, no, I'm going to shit on him. I don't care. I just found it interesting. I said, wait, he works here too. I went to look and I'm like, of course, this is another podcast that gets a lot of push because I guess they were really trying to ride the hype of true crime. Sure.

So every company is now trying to develop their own. This is the only time that these companies are trying to develop their own property and push it so that they have full ownership of it when it comes to true crime. Any other format, talk, even music even music program sports program any of that stuff they're looking to integrate with already successful program so that they can sort of be like the middleman and put advertising on their show so like they're like a saleshouse if you will sure except for true crime those spare no expense they'll spend every dime on a true crime podcast and then promote it as if a celebrity was coming to do this show.

And that's what this happens to be. This is a 12 episode series that they're doing about some kind of homicide out in, I believe in Patrick Michael's territory of the world. It is in Gary Indiana. Gary Indiana. He ties it into a murder case in Gary, Indiana in 2014 that this algorithm may have helped prevent. And these guys live in Indiana and they agree with Patrick Michael.

I thought about, you know, I wanted to ask him, you know, are you sure you really want to travel to Gary in the summer? Like, you know, I know the city. Are you sure? Yeah, no, just trust us. No, don't go there. Don't go to Gary, Indiana. I know the jacks are from there. We all have a place in our hearts for Gary, Indiana, but don't go there. Don't go to Gary Indiana. I know the jacks are from there.

We all have a place in our hearts for Gary Indiana, but don't go there. Not a good fucking. No, not at all. There's no need to go there ever. I was there once with Northern. Hall of Rag. Northern was doing a tour.

I think it was the anti-social network tour. It was Nick DePolo, Jim Norton Arty Lang and David Tell. Nice. And we were I think we were in Chicago doing the ONA show for the virus tour. And then they had to go off to Indiana to do this other tour. So I'm with them. And then I realized we're in Gary, Indiana. You get off the highway. It looks like all the that war torn footage they used to see about like villages in the Middle East and in Africa where you're looking like, wow, everything's devastated here. This is just the town. There's one gigantic casino in a town that is dying that this casino is thriving and sucking

all the money out of the community. And that's where the comedy show was. And like so when we got to the casino, they're like, oh, you can't leave the premises because the area was so bad. They were telling you, you can't go for a walk. I just had to stay in the casino. You get out the express when I just picture Chevy Chase and the vacation movies. Roll up, kids, roll up. And then as we're leaving, you know, all the wheels are gone. There's just a dog collar on the bumper. Grandma's dead. Yeah.

Somebody asked if the casino was run by Biff Tannen. Comment? Yeah, it's exactly that. It's, you, there's nothing, especially at night. It's like they barely have power in Gary, Indiana, except you see this big glowing gold building and there's the casino. It's exactly like a Biff Tower.

It's like North Korea. And you just have the one place where Kim Jong-un is hanging out with that power. Yeah, that's exactly. Yes, exactly. That's it. So they're bragging, getting back to our friends, Stephen Kyle. They're bragging about how we finally have this equipment. We can talk to people.

We can interview them and we're not doing it half-assed. And then the guy, and this is a podcast, or he sounds terrible. It's a computer program that's doing math and figuring out where possible murders could take place or linking possible past murders. Yeah, and it's not even really that sophisticated of math either. It's basically just looking at, are there a large number of unsolved similar murders? So this guy called it on his blackberry for some reason. It's like, dude, you have a podcast studio. Just use that. I wouldn't brag so much about the upgrade. Right. There was a clip from when this thing started, because when they went to do the phone call

with this guy, I believe the host name has been something. And Ben didn't have, I guess, his earbuds in with his phone. He wasn't ready. Yeah, and they proceeded to give him shit for not having his stuff together, but they were trying to do it in a joking manner. You can play my clip six. Very good. Ben, it's the Stephen Kyle podcast. How are you this morning? Good. Good. I'm just looking for a headphone connector. Jesus, Ben, come on, man. You got it. You were a professional band. We even called a minute late, geez. So are you sitting right home right now

listening to us on a speaker phone? No, I don't have you on speaker. So I'm surprised I can actually hear you, because often I just have it on speaker and still hold it up right next to my ear. Now, is this extra embarrassing for you as a man of public radio background, you know, being unprepared and not having the audio equipment

you need has to be just a shameful moment for you. I've never ridden to that before. This is exactly what they have. They were giving him shit in a mocking way, but they're really, they're projecting. It's like, oh, you didn't have your headphones ready. It's like, you worked in radio. So do these two idiots.

But you can all turn it on. They worked in radio and they couldn't get their own shit working. And you could clean all that up in post and not make your guess look like a shit had. They're trying to promote this guy's podcast. And the first thing is that, like, you didn't even have to work your equipment anymore.

I'm like, well, yeah, that's not a great way to start. And like, this guy's podcast. And the first thing is that I'm like, excuse me, I'm not a worker equipped anymore, I'm like, well, yeah, that's not a great way to start. Like it or not. This guy's podcast right now is getting a very big push through IART. So they're technically way more, I think that guy's way more famous than these two are. And that's how they're treating your guests.

I guess, I mean, I looked at this Facebook page, it has a 128 followers, but I don't know. So the show is called Algorithm. And they're talking about, no, I went to this website where he's like, oh yeah, you can go to the website and use the algorithm. It's just a database. It's not an algorithm.

I don't know what he's talking about, but they not only talk about the name of the show, but they talk about said algorithm, math formula, whatever you want to call it. Adnaud's, yeah, I have a super cut here. Algorithm. Algorithm. Algorithm. Algorithm. Algorithm. Algorithm. algorithm math formula whatever you want to call it Adnaudium I have a supercutter algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm algorithm No, they keep saying that there's this crazy algorithm where they can solve crimes, but who is this algorithm? Can I get algorithm up my show

I knew you would do this too because I did the same thing. I made that same super Yeah, yeah, I sat there and I go oh my god I'm 27 seconds into this file and all they're saying is algorithm. It was driving me fucking nuts between that and the weird cadence that Ben has when he took, he sounds like the male, do you ever watch the Muppets growing up?

Sure. The band on the Muppets called the Electric Mayhem and there was this blonde puppet that was supposed to be a California girl named Janice. Yeah. And she would do a click this. You know, and that's how this this was the male version of that fucking puppet.

Well, I'm getting back to this algorithm thing. Yeah. So he explains it. He goes, so it's not actually that complex of math. What it is is it looks for unsolved murder cases in a similar area. So you can just like zoom in on a zip code and see how many unsolved murder cases there are like that's called a database That's a video call that probably the same guy if it's in the same area It's probably the same person. Well, that's what that's what he says

Like that we're gonna catch serial killers because this amazing algorithm That's not what an algorithm is, but all right, maybe he knows more than I do. I don't know. I went to the website, I tried to figure it out. It didn't seem all that in place to be. That doesn't seem to be working so well for them because you could just look at something on your phone

on Google Chrome or any other kind of browser. And then all of a sudden, give it like 10 minutes and somehow that ad is showing up on your Facebook page or in Amazon is suggesting a product to you that's pretty much what you were looking up and didn't use their service. That's an algorithm. That's how they're finding you. Now, if Amazon and Facebook can find out what you said or what you were looking up and you didn't even use their service. And this thing is trying to find serial killers and murderers and it's not having the same kind of effect.

It's no longer an algorithm. There's no money in that. It's not doing anything. It's somebody's cute little program that they used to try to justify their job. It's just visualizing a database, which is fine, it's neat, but it's not that hard. It's money ball at this point.

You're just looking at numbers and going by percentages So at one point during this interview They do something that I consider one of the cardinal sins of podcasting especially when it's a radio guys doing it the interview reset Sure, we after you know The time period where you could make a record request and get access to this stuff the time period where you could make a record request and get access to this stuff. We're talking to Ben Kubrick, host of Algorithm, new episodes, everywhere you can get your podcasts on Tuesdays. Ben, we mentioned and you told us about how

no one's just joining the show asshole. No, I was doing something else while that was playing and I heard the reset and I just yelled why? Why are you doing this? It's bad enough that they had to do it on radio, but you did it because the whole thing was like, you know, anybody could be tuning in at any time, so you have to reset so they know. It makes sense on radio. People are tuning in halfway through.

Yeah, who is the show that I'm listening to? Who's the guest they're talking to? I came in late. I didn't hear who the guest is. Oh, that's whoever it is. Okay, that makes sense. You're on a podcast. If you don't remember who this guest is. Oh, that's whoever it is. Okay, that makes sense. You're on a podcast.

If you don't remember who this person is, guess what, you click the info button and it tells you in the description, they're talking to that person. Right. There's a way to figure it out. I don't need you to reset it. So this is what I call a terrible question.

And by the way, they say afterwards they're gonna get him back on the show again. They have more questions for them, they didn't even get to. But for some reason, he asks this question. Now, before we let you go, Ben, I have to imagine you're not going to know what to do with yourself the next time you create the next podcast you create, whatever it is, whatever's percolating in your mind, because you've done this one throughout the majority of a pandemic, limiting everything you can do,

whether it's travel, face to face interviews, visiting certain things. So the next one you do, what are you, I mean, you're gonna have so much time on your hands because you're gonna be able to do everything you wanna do from day one. Well, that's retarded. How does that make any sense?

It doesn't. It's a limited series. The guy does a lot of research, I think he's a journalist, too. So he's always working and this project happened to be presented to him because the company said, hey, we like this particular story you're working on, you want to develop it into a limited series. When that thing's done, it doesn't mean he's solved all the murders. It doesn't mean like, oh, well, case is closed. And then there's a Marvel cutscene at the credits roll.

And they're still more to do. And even if this was a case that Wanda did getting solved, there's plenty of other cases out there for this guy to write about. Well, also, that question was, for your next podcast, you can now travel, you can visit people, you can do face-to-face interviews. What are you gonna do with all this free time? It's like, no, all those things take a lot of time.

And so Ben has a long pause and this is his response. Uh, well, it's just, I can be even more time on my hands, or does that mean I'm gonna be visier? I- Well, to make it easier for you, right? I mean, yeah, a little bit. No, Zoom calls are easier. No, no, it's not easier. In fact, leaving up to what this podcast they're listening to and talking about, that's what he was doing. Right. He tell these, he mentioned several times how he used to have to go door to door to neighbors

to try to get like a neighborhood perspective or, or a witness accounts and things like that. He was doing a lot of foot traffic already and they said, Oh, when this is done, you get to walk around and talk to people. It's like, oh, so I get to keep working in the same faction that I've been working in. These guys are dumb and they're like you are mentioning, they're not good broadcasters. So this is an example of poor broadcasting and just stupidity. And also, I want to point out, they don't swear for some reason. This is a family show.

Yeah. out they don't swear for some reason this is a family show. Yeah, so the reason that that we decided to, uh, S and not just get off the pot. The reason we decided to S and not just get off the pot, that's not how that saying works. Shoulder get off the pot. The reason why we decided to shit and not just get off the pot. What? Yeah.

What do you mean by that? What does that mean? They got the phrase wrong. The, wrong the their self-sensoring Sensoring like they're on the radio and I heard somewhere else in this interview, too They beeped something yes said and I heard the beep and I go why the fuck is this being beeped? I said well, let me go see who owns this podcast because if you work for a major radio show and they allow you to do a podcast That's sometimes sort of the rules that they need you to follow radio restrictions, even though it's a podcast.

The company that owns Free Bear and Hot Wings does not own this podcast. And they're not with a network that is trying to, you know, stay advertiser friendly or something. So why are they self-sensoring? Well, here's them explaining that they aren't on any type of network or have any type of advertisers. I mean, should we become part of a big network? Like I'm assuming we just call it hard and say, Hey, you guys want this? We're signing up. Get us on when's the money start? And then they drop in ads or do whatever they need to do, you know, from the big listenership they get from episode 270 of the

streaming Kyle podcast. Yeah, it's kind of pathetic that you've had over 200 episodes and you haven't forgot a way to monetize your show yet. Hey, so we've been pitching to the company that you already work for that's syndicating a successful radio show that you work on. You could say, Hey, look, I have this side pride. A lot of radio shows that are still in existence. If their producers or even the co-hosts want to do an offshoot kind of podcast, they're

all about getting more digital content for that company. So they'll allow you to branch off and maybe even advertise it. If you work on this show that, oh, a reminder during your plugs, it's like, I also do a food podcast, you can find it here on, on their own network, though allow that. But here, like the company doesn't give a shit what they're doing. Free beer and hot wings apparently don't give a shit what they're doing. They don't apparently give a shit what they're doing for this podcast. Nobody's buying this thing.

No, I think they're more mentioned a few more times about trying to get on I heart media. If anything, I heart media should be judging Ben for even allowing himself to go on this show to promote the podcast that they're paying for. I agree, he's not getting any further reach by going on this show. I can't imagine anyone's finding his show through that appearance.

This is nobody. Nobody's finding their own show through this. I know, this is how much these guys have going on. But then we also, we're gonna have an appearance on Brian and Chrissy's podcast the commercial break Coming up later this month. Yeah, when is that? Well, we're supposed to be recording that in a couple of weeks. Yes, so we'll be doing that. That'll be fun Oh, Brian and Chrissy's podcast the commercial break what the fuck would you talk to these two losers about if you had them on your show

Let's say you're able to get Kyle and Steve as guests on your show. How many questions could you have for these guys? I know what, this is how, by this point, how uninterested I was in everything. I didn't even look up who Brian and Chris are. Because normally I would. I'm like, let me see what their podcast is. Is it a more successful podcast that it's smart for them to go on? I'm assuming it's not, and that's all the research I'm gonna do as far as that podcast goes. I usually do that too, and I just assume that this is a podcast

nobody's ever heard of, because why the fuck is anyone booking Steven Kyle to be on their show, makes no sense? I love how you've pulled almost exactly the same clips that I did. I figured out my- I figured out my- I figured out my- I figured out my-

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If you're still listening, there's nothing there to see. If you're still listening, he's not. No, it's not a lot of fun to work. He's not listening to you, Eddie Mark. It's not a lot of broadcast. It's not like when people would go, hey, you know, you call and ask a question to a host. All right, I'm going to hang up and listen for your answer. That's when you could do that with radio,

where you could hang up and still be listening to the show. Of course. They don't live stream, they don't video stream, they barely get an audio recording done every week. He's not even gonna go back and listen to the interview he did, like, oh, the episode's out. I'm not even promoting it on my Twitter. That's how bad this is. He's not promoting the episode that he went on

to promote his own product. Which, unlike myself going on a weird medicine, which has dropped this week, feels should check that out. I was on with Dr. Steve. It'll be on series XM later this evening. And all weekend long. And yes, that was a lot of fun. But people should go check out weird medicine, a great show hosted by our good buddy. The longest running show on our former channel. That's correct. He outlived everybody on that channel. He's amazing. He's he's the cockroach. He is. I remember starting his show when uh, Ope kicked the idea about how him starting to do the show. He was so nervous and then he,

once he sat down, it was like he had done this all his life. And if you've never checked out weird medicine, you really should. It's a very casual conversation involving anything medical and anything in the news. And it's not like he doesn't dumb it down, but he doesn't speak down to you either. Like he's an uber smart. I mean, he is very uber smart for being a doctor, but he's not pitching or explaining everything to you

like you're a fucking idiot. Although he should, because a lot of us are, but he does not pitching or explaining everything to you like you're a fucking idiot. Although he should because a lot of us are, but he does not do that. And again, he's one of the greatest guys in the world. Yes. He is a very smart guy because he agreed with almost everything that I had to say about the vaccines at COVID-19. So I agree very much. And Patrick, Michael, I love that breakdown.

We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. So these guys start talking about these two brainiacs, pontificate on the future of media. If there's an interesting story to tell, there's going to be an audience for it, no matter what forever. Whether it's print, whether it's podcast or audio, you know, different audio forms or video forms. Yeah. Now that does feel a little bit weird coming from you, you know, being the the heavy foot that Crushes the mom and pop shows around the country Johnny the duck still ought to work Remember when I said interesting story to tell

So Kyle makes a joke that free beer and hot wings because in syndication is replacing local DJs And for some reason Steve gets cocky there for a second with about his contact with free beer and hot wings because it's in syndication is replacing local DJs. And for some reason Steve gets cocky there for a second with about his content with free beer and hot wings. Like, wow, we're a superior show. But then right after that, he starts apologizing for the fact that they're syndicated radio show. I guess that brings you up a good question for me because you guys move into new radio stations, it happens everywhere, right? You're not the only show doing it. I know we joke about that, but it's important to say this isn't a side gank thing. This happens everywhere. Also important to know, we

don't seek out a station and say we're going to be on WKQL. Right. Go get them. And you know, send our goons there to beat up the current. Yeah you're not we prohibition like whiskey gang. No we are contacted. Yeah in most cases we are contacted and it's not even us it's another it's another entity that I'm glad they cleared that up. It's also bull shit because you look at the list of the the markets that they're in of course I I mean, they have to have an agent and a syndicate to do what they're doing. Of course, they're looking at like, hey, get us into New York any way possible. So they have two New Jersey stations and they have a bunch of upstate New York stations.

And that's not the New York they were talking about, but they have people that are constantly seeking to get them into other markets to replace other shows. And yes, they are pretty much the only show going around because there's nothing left in radio. There's no morning shows to this extent doing what they do. So one, it's amazing that they're still hanging on and God bless them for doing so. But yeah, they're doing everything they said they're not doing.

They're looking to replace every small market Morning show that they possibly can and they're looking to go into all these other markets and what's interesting here Is they're talking about how there's some really interesting stories with free beer and hot wings going into markets and then getting fired from markets And this is stuff that we want to hear about the behind-the-scenes stuff in radio right people are actually interested in the still for some reason drew I might do it might be a lot of time. Yeah, I love the interesting shit right see the behind the scenes stuff in radio. People are actually interested in the still for some reason. Drew, Mike, Drew, Mike, I'm on the time. Yeah, I love the ear of that. It's interesting, shit, right.

See, those are fascinating stories that aren't meant for this podcast and not meant for air. But again, these are stations that seek us out. Yeah. We gladly say yes, we'll be on your radio station. And then they get mad at us. And then they fire us for doing the exact same thing.

What they sought us out to do. Did he just say these are fascinating stories that we won't talk about on this show? They're not for Aaron, they're not for the podcast. Why did you mention it? Yeah, like I want fascinating story, like, well, let's do it. Let's go. Anybody wants to hear the rest of your show now? They're like, no, if this was a lot,

if I'd be called, no, no, no, backup. What's this shit you can't talk about? That's right. You know, this is also interesting too. So they're saying these stations reach out to them to hire them to the one who bring them in because they're proven, I guess, some rating success and sales money.

And then they get fired within a month because they're doing exactly what you're paying them to do and what they were doing before you hired them That doesn't make any sense. I doesn't check out something's got out there. That sounds like a radio cop out where you can say, oh no We because we remember that bit we did last week and everything while we just lost Tuscaloosa because of that No, it's probably that the Tuscaloosa station was sold or reformatted by the corporation that owns it. And it's, you know, just a national footprint for everything else that they're doing. They probably just fired everybody.

You say that, but I got to tell you that we did a show last week and Cleveland is pissed. I mean, Cleveland is so pissed at W-H-D-P right now. I don't know what we're going to do to recover. I'll pour Cleveland. All right, so I thought this was really dumb, a dumb thing to say. Internet hate isn't meant for everybody. No, you know, some people take it harder than others. It's worse on some others. Some people don't like internet hate. Did you know that? I look at the other side of this. Internet hate is not meant for everybody. So it's like, all right, it's like, you're not big enough to get internet hate.

It's what they're saying. You're not important enough to get internet hate. It doesn't matter what level you're on. If you say something stupid or if you just even exist, you're going to get internet hate. So it's not, you're not worthy of the hate. It's the degree of hate that you get based on your popularity or your success or lack thereof. Speaking of internet hate. So somebody decided to at mention Jessica Kursin, who was a podcast or that we reviewed on last week's show. Right. And I personally, yeah, she's a standup. I personally do not at tag people because I want to give them an out. I'm not looking to start a fight.

If they want to pretend they never heard the show and maybe they haven't heard the show, they don't want to address it. Good on them. You don't have to start a podcast war with me. It's fine. So of course, this person has to tag her and we talked about how her characters are annoying.

Now, I want to point out, I talked to my buddy Vinny Polino, who says she's a brilliant comedian and other people told me she's a really, there's a blind spot for me. I didn't know that she's this amazing comedian, but her podcast is garbage. It's unlistenable. She's doing these annoying characters and those annoying voices. I don't know, anyone listens to it. And she wrote back to our tweet.

This is actually a compliment when dumb people don't get it. And Jessica, whatever makes you feel better about yourself. But that annoying voice you do is not something to smart people enjoy. You must know that, right? It's not something that a bunch of BradyXs are going, holy shit, did you hear this Jewish woman? This old Jewish lady voice? Brilliant. She did. I heard that episode.

She is a good comic. I will say that. I just, here's what I don't understand. I don't understand, like I know people are always trying to do new things with the podcast medium. Like they're trying to be a show that's not just maybe nine comics talking together and everyone's, you know, trying to get the punch line

and talking all over each other. They're not an NPR format, they're not a true crime format where it's overly produced and scripted. But there's sometimes people go and they try to do these sketch podcasts. Right. Like with characters or like old time radio hour kind of things. And I applaud them for trying to do something different, but I don't think it's like an antiquated genre of entertainment. I don't think younger people want to listen

to a scripted format in that sense, where you know, you're doing comics and it's like the, remember Jackie Gleason, well, no, no, we're just gonna remember Jackie Gleason, but he's having a old show. Remember Jackie Gleason, remember that Bob H no, we're just gonna remember Jackson. But he's the heaven old show. Remember Jackie Gleason? Remember the Bob Holt special from 68? Ellie's trying to give an example.

Anything from like the 60s and 70s where they would have like the cavalcade of stars, where it would be a main host, a variety show, if you will. And trying to do that in an audio medium now, I don't think anybody wants to hear some kind of variety thing and hear characters. People barely put up with Saturday Live when that's what they do, you know, and it has to be either an instant hit or everyone says Saturday Live is still terrible. Doing it on audio where people can't get the visualization for it isn't the same as like telling a story, a horror story or whatever, not revealing the monsters because whatever

you think of in your head is going to be worse or even better than what they could actually describe it or visualize it. Doing the character stuff, I don't get it. I listened to her thing and I was like, wow, this really isn't that good. And she's a good comic, but she's not hitting the mark with it with this podcast. So I would argue that it can be done. It's not that she's entered into this

type of broadcasting that can't possibly be funny because I think back to when Adam Sandler released his first CD, they're all going to laugh at you. Yeah. It doesn't hold up. I don't even know. I haven't heard it. Yeah, of course it does. But it was so funny. Like we all knew that album. We could recite it. We memorized it, and it was all characters, and it was all things you had to visualize and sketches, and it was funny. If that was a podcast, I think that would go over really well. All right, fair enough, fair point.

So I guess it's just the writing and the performance then. Yeah, that's not selling it. But you're right, all right, the genre can be sold, you're correct. Well, I also think that it's a lot of improv that they're doing. They're not actually writing a sketch, and everyone thinks you're correct. Well, I also think that it's a lot of improv that they're doing. They're not actually writing a sketch and everyone thinks they're fucking Larry David

and they're gonna pull off a curb scene. And it's like, no, you're not that talented and your friends aren't that funny either. It's not gonna work. No. I have good news though for my buddies getting back to Steve and Kyle. I have a feeling that Anthony Coomy's gonna wanna book them

to be on his show when I heard this. Being in the minority means you're wrong. Yeah. We're controversial. In my blockpot, I don't know how to eat their own, right? That's a good job. If you ever wanted to fuck with them, you could send to, if they get, if they get an advertiser, like say they get magic spoon or, or blue chew, I'm just saying it's like, hey, are you

wearing that these guys say stuff like this and you send that clip? And then that one advertiser quickly goes away. I would never do that unless it was Stuttery John and I have an example of that later on. But no, I wish all the best for these guys. As you know, this is just a row show. And hopefully they listen and learn a little bit about what they're doing wrong. We'll see.

Anything else you want to play on the board here? Um, I have a out of context clip by them that sums up their own podcast uh, cut 12. I mean, does that take a toll on you? I would imagine mentally, it would be tough to sit there and listen to all of this for hours and hours and hours. I would imagine it is. See, that should be in their production where the Stephen Kyle show in that clip plays. That's good production. That's the intro. That's funny. Yeah, because if I listen to that and they're shitting all over themselves, like, all right, they took the time to produce this thing, but you know, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, these guys just, they're not on air personalities. No, and then apparently they're not good producers either.

The way they're talking about, you know, we don't go in there and just take over the markets. They come to us. And you told me at the beginning of the show that Steve's the least light guy on that program there. So it's like he has nothing to do with the free beer and hot wing success. Correct. From what I've heard, I don't know. What do I know?

But he's probably right. We'll just go on hearsay and say, no, you're exactly 100% correct. The other thing I do know for sure that he's neither free beer nor hot wings. So it's probably not the reason why that show is that. He's not even at the top of the marquee. I looked at their syndicated website and he's one, two, three, four, five, he's sixth on the roster of importance for that show. Yeah.

And you know how the equipment works. So what is he doing? What is he doing? What is he doing? Oh, it's good for him for having a radio job though. Yeah, someone's got to have a radio job, right? Someone's got to still be working in radio. Yeah.

Eric, if you're all set, I got to switch to the next segment here. Please do. Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. This is the segment where we play little clips from podcasts. People send in to me because their shows, maybe they enjoy and they hear a part that's real cringe worthy. And we're going to start off with a show called R.U. Garbage, which is from Patrick

color. And this is a show hosted by Kevin Ryan and H. Foley, this specific episode they have on Andrew Shulz, who is great. And the person who sent this in said that they do like this show. And the setup is they're talking about a comedian friend of theirs, having a wedding who is Indian, dot not feather. And they make the obvious joke of H.Folly being an elephant and painting him gray and the groom riding out on him

because he's a fatso like Vinny. These are Patrick's words, not mine. I would never make fun of Vinny's weight. I hope he's doing well. But anyway, he's complaining about this producer. This is one of those shows that has a producer that's laughing in the background, like off-mic laughing, sorry.

I know. To accent the, the tempted jokes. I hate that too when you have the people laughing in the background to let you know where the funny is. Like that's the whole role of that person is to laugh so that you know that a joke was made so that you should be laughing there too. Oh, the control room is losing their mind over this right now. Oh my gosh. So this goes on for so long that they have to like stop and reset and wait for the guy to stop losing his mind.

You're there for a few days or what? There for a few days. Happy to be there. Happy to be there. Happy to be there. Baltimore new suit for this. Baltimore new shoes for this. Getting a new shoes. Are you doing Indian outfits? We're not going to our cautious. Did you invite show? No, so that's why I said we're on the bubble. I wouldn't expect that Fuck dude. I might rock one of Casey and Robbie's just to check things out. What is box rides out on Foley? We'll spray paint great As long as I can hit to

buffet, I would actually I'd be okay with that. That's not a natural laugh. No, and it's not even laughing while everybody else was laughing. They waited. He waited for the host to be done and then he kept the laugh going in the background to make it seem hilarious. Correct. All right, we got multiple cringes of the weeks this week. I guess we got a change of the jingle because we keep seem hilarious. Correct. All right. We got multiple cringe of the weeks this week.

I guess we got to change the jingle because we keep getting these coming in. This is a show called Mysterious Mysteries and Other Musings. It's a show with like four women, don't ask me, but Adam Thorough sent this in. This woman's playing the organ, but she forgot she doesn't know how to play the organ.

OK. I'm going to introduce our podcast on the organs. Anyone have any song requests? The one you can play. Take me out of the door, Gabe. Oh, I forgot to play that. Just do the one you didn't earlier. Mm.

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Canyon. We're Brian got sick after one day in Went home and this happens. I think because the the goal was to get to where the next day or that night. Uh, Frank, do you remember? Let me see. I think it was to get to St. Louis. There you are. That's where it was. St. Louis, which is about three hours or so, maybe a little bit more. And I said to the two. What the hell? Amber alert.

Amber alert. Who cares about that? No, come on. Kids come and go all the time. This year's the hardest you. I know he's not in my house. So if he's not in my house, then I don't know where the fuck the kid is. So Brian handles that very well, like a pro, like he is. Yeah. But the funny part is what happens next.

They went on the state Lewis and when did I tell you? We woke up around six o'clock in the morning and I saw the text that you were like, it's not happening guys. Yeah, I'm like, I can't do it. And this is goddamn it. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. What is going on? What was it, your phone? Yeah. Wow. I mean, I hope that kids are okay. So, Walt's phone goes off just moments later, which definitely counts as crazy. I don't know how it is for

wherever anybody's listening or up in Rochester, where you are called, but this happens all the time if you're in Manhattan or in the Manhattan area. Your phone is constantly going off with either some kind of weird, severe weather alert or an amber alert, and you get to the point where it's like, I'm not even answering the phone from my family. I'm not going to answer for the fucking amber alerts.

You can be in a coffee shop, we're at compound. We're just sitting there, all of a sudden, everyone's phone, like all the iPhones go off at once. Oh, there's an amber alert. Everyone's scrambles turns it off. And then you give it a couple minutes and then all the Android phones go off. There's the amber alert.

It's non-stop and you don't care. Nobody responds to these things. all the Android phones go off, there's the amber, it's non-stop, and you don't care, nobody responds to these things. You can turn that shit off, Iraq. I have turned that off though. The weather shit in my car used to be outrageous. I mean, driving my car and it makes them loudest screeching noise through all the fucking speakers. It's like, hey, tomorrow I might rain, like, okay.

I thought I was about to die. I didn't need you to do that. I'm gonna have to do that. And apparently the entire city of New York is gonna have to learn to do that because you're in a Starbucks, you're gonna go down, trying to get the train or you're in the subway and then everyone's phones go off.

I guess nobody knows you can turn this thing off. That's what those road signs should say. You know the road signs tell you to click it or tick it or they tell you to one small ask where a mask what it should say is how to turn off Amber or it's on your phone. Yeah, don't show me the don't give me the description of the car and the license plate in the kid. Look at that. Here's how to turn this off. Here's how to turn this should I ignore it like the rest of us. Yeah, welcome to New Jersey. Here's how to turn off the amber alerts. So you're like I was excited to have you back on the show because the last time you were on we talked about Scott from

Erno, we talked about Todd from Scott and Todd and Pettangale had a show where he took his, he got blown out from the radio station so he moved to Austin and went behind the paywall and decided like I don't need radio we're gonna do a wacky morning-type show with my daughter and some random dude and all my amazing production and hilarious song parodies And I didn't even have his daughter first like the first six months was just him and this other guy that he found in Austin. Oh weird, okay. Yeah Well, yeah, so he Quitting last June and just said due to the due to COVID restrictions and everything else that was going on, it's impossible for them to continue the show.

And they're going to wait for, uh, safer times and where everybody can get back together. And then, well, we'll definitely be back. They kept saying, well, definitely be back. What he did was he canceled the show. He didn't refund the four people that were still subscribing to him. Oh no. And then use the pandemic as the excuse to not do his show anymore.

Yeah, because it hasn't been bad. Yeah, because it hasn't been bad. It doesn't make any sense at all. If you think about it, now he can pretend that it was a safety issue, but frankly, they could have done that over Zoom and they have to be together. And the idea that people weren't consuming media at that time,

like that was his perfect time to start a show like that. Well, now you can video stream me every day if someone's a fan of us. And the other thing too, and he's like, you know, until, you know, so everybody is safe and we have proper guidelines, whatever, he owned the studio that they were doing this in. It's him and his daughter, they live right next to each other.

So who are they contaminating? Right. He owns the property and it's his family. Nothing was going to be compromised. They weren't even sitting on each other's laps either. It seemed like they had a lot of space for three people. There's a, you can see some, they have some videos up there. You can look, they even spaced the tables out

in their own studio. Right. Like they were, they have some videos up there. You can look, they even spaced the tables out in their own studio. Right. Like they were, they made like a big square U and they were all more than like 10 feet apart from each other. And you're looking at this and like, why would you all be in the same room sitting like this? It's not like you, you know,

everybody on your show is from different places and that's how you were, you're doing it. They lived together and they were still doing this. It made no fucking sense. So, E-Roc, is it your theory that maybe he failed at this endeavor? And that's why it's no longer on? Absolutely, I'm failed at this endeavor. And here's how else you know that he failed at this endeavor.

His daughter didn't come on to the show until like six months into the new venture, right? Right. He eliminated all those episodes where it was just him, they're gone. They're not on his archive. They're not, the video versions don't exist. Nothing is there.

The start, if you went to his website now, and he has everything, all his videos for free now, you can look at it. It looks like it started when she joined the show with him, right? Like this is how they started the show from the beginning. No, there was six months of him playing 19 phone scams that he had pre-recorded from the 90s in every episode,

reading off show prep and then doing stupid parodies and all this other stuff again, fake phone calls, interviews, all these other nonsense crap that he was known for doing to an audience of none. Like he was doing putting me down. Yes, the woman scams. Not talking in the morning. Not a five, five, he'll do. Yeah, doing all this stuff. It felt terribly. He just, he just closed the door. It was like the ending of the Mary Tyler Moore show. He just took one look around at the studio, turned off the light switch and shut the door,

and then all the equipment still sitting in its original spaces is just there collecting dust. He never came back. What's great about it too is that he thought he was the star when he was on with Scott Shannon, and they blew out Scott Shannon. Now it's's like now it's just the Todd petting Hill show where it did over New York City ratings fucking fall through the floor. So then they bring it to the cell the station. Yeah right then they have to bring it to co-host for this guy to try to like rebrand it again and then he gets blown out and he's like well I'm still

a huge star I'll just start a show, be out of paywall. Nope. And I felt bad for his old partner, Jade, who I know very well. And they tried. They all tried to make Todd a thing so that they could all succeed too. And then it didn't.

Everybody Todd worked with went on to be successful, but except for Todd. So Jade, when this whole thing went down, she had a little bit of downtime. She got hired by Apple. So she's one of the big personalities for their Apple streaming radio stuff on their app. Oh, good for her.

She's doing very well. Scotch, Shannon, still kicking ass in New York City, and he's been gone since 2014. Something like that. He's still on the air. He's still in New York. He's still the morning show, and Todd's nowhere gone since 2014, something like that. He's still on the air, he's still in New York, he's still the morning show, and Todd's nowhere to be found. Oh, wait, no, Todd is somewhere to be found.

He sort of hosted NXT's in your house pay-per-view for WWE. They brought him back like a nostalgia thing. Yeah. And no one gave a shit. Yeah, I mean, he wasn't an important character when he was doing WWE back at the day. No, he was, he was the face in the voice of the worst period of the WWE's history, which was the mid 90s. Right, right before they got the rock and they got stone cold and

people started doing a shit. Right. When you had, when your top talent was Bret Hart, Yoko Zuna, the undertaker, and then Duke the dumpster, Drozzi, the Brooklyn brawler, the gobble decook, all these cartoon and comic-looking wrestlers, gimmick wrestlers. He was the voice of that whole era. So they were translating it into NXT now, and they did the one, I don't see him coming back as much as he tried. Another interesting fact before that, and I sent this to you, Carl. You did. About a month before he got this, now said he was coming back to WWE

to do that one off pay-per-view. He put a little promotional video up on his Instagram announcing that he has an action figure coming out, right? So I first was looking at this. I go, well, you know, it makes sense. He has a history of WWE and they'll put of action figure coming out, right? So I first was looking at this, I go, well, you know what makes sense? He has a history of WWE and they'll put of action figure out for anybody in their history.

Sure. Really buys them. And it turns out that's not the case. WWE is not putting out an action figure. Mattel is not putting out an action figure. Todd went to somebody who makes action figures, paid to have an action figure of himself made and was pre-sailing the action figure, which won't be available till the end

of next year. Yeah, the end of 2022, and he's like, now you got to order now. Yeah, pre-sales are going up now. You can get the Todd pet and gill action figure and they're doing the, you know, the rotation where you just see the figure and it's on a stage. And it's rotating. And you're like, yeah, I'm like, wait, if WWE's not making a figure for him, why are you making your own figure? Nobody wants this. Who's buying this? They didn't want your podcast.

Wrestling fans would buy the Todd figure because some of them are completists and have a collection. They'll buy it and it could be a rarity too. Who knows? But that's the only way people are going to buy it. If it's got the official WWE marking on it, this doesn't. And he's spending his own money to put out an action figure. I don't get it.

No, you do get it. This guy has an ego and he's not being heard by thousands of people or hundreds of thousands of people anymore. And he doesn't know what to do with himself. He's having a hard time with it. No, he has nothing to do at all. I want to let him out. He made millions upon millions.

Yes. He should just enjoy his life. God bless him at this point. Go live your life and just do anything but. I could think of someone else who you might be talking about when you say that a specific thing. I'm not projecting, Carl. I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I did think so. I want to point out though, a lot of people have discovered the podcast over the last year or two. Check out if you haven't. Episode 186 of Who Are These Podcasts. Hey Todd, this was the first time we had Eric Nagelon and Eric just did a brilliant dismantling of this guy's show. You can't believe how bad this guy is at doing a radio show.

He does the jerky boys impression for all his phone scams. Hey, listen here. Yeah, look at me. And they're all pre-written. And they're all scripted. They're all scripted. Yeah, they're all scripted. They're all scripted.

And there's voice actors. There's a voice acting service that would get this. And I have a thing I said on the other one. I have a friend. She's a, she's a comic. Um, used to do this all the time. She, she was with some agency and they would give her 25 bucks to read a bunch of lines. And then those lines were sent to Todd and he used them in the phone call. And it's devoid of humor. There was not a single thing that's even remotely funny about the one that sticks in my mind Because it was around Christmas time was the one where he calls in as the mall Santa Claus because he's sick

He's got a cold and the woman at the mall is going. I got a blindfold a kid. You get your ass in here And you put those kids at your lap and he's gone. Are you kidding me? I'm so sick. It's like, this is so stupid. Kind of privacy is this. He did a phone call where he called some appliance company and was complaining about the vacuum that he purchased because he was calling from inside the vacuum. It had sucked him up and he was sitting in the bag of the vacuum and he couldn't get out.

What a fucking moron. And he was sitting up on that. the vacuum and he couldn't get out. What a fucking moron! And he was just hanging up on that. That's the problem. It has to be believable. If you're going to script this shit, and you're going to have voice actors, make it believable. None of these things are ever believable. You know what? If he was having any kind of career with,

and I'm not a cancel person, but I was like, oh, we could try to cancel him. He did a phone scam. maybe somebody can find it. It was called no tutor. And he called a real estate agent looking for a house, and he was doing a really horribly racist Japanese accent. And he kept, a tutor is a style of house. So he would keep, he's like, well, we could show you a split level ranch.

And he'd go, no, like, he just kept doing that over and over in the phone call. And you even as a kid, and I'd hear that, I go, this is terrible. Like, how is this not the horned people mad at what he's doing here? And he did it for years. Talk about retarded. Yes, exactly. But he's not doing anything anymore. We don't have to worry about the likes of Mr. Pettingill. Oh my gosh It is it's got to feel good doesn't it? Iraq all those years. It feels like a it feels like a victory I want to point out that Iraq worked for Todd pettingill so he knows I did for a short time Todd is not a nice person There's plenty of people that have worked in some way, shape, or form with Todd at either WPLJ or some of his syndicated properties

or any of that stuff, and all have horrible stories about what an asshole that this guy is. So it is justice and we do appreciate that. I gotta do this quick segment with you, Iraq. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like he's put out a lot this week. He was very busy and Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We had some great stuff to go through. What I have today is something that our buddy Pro from Discord put together, and this is fan fucking, fantastic.

This is the thing that Patrick Michael accuses me of that other people do the work for me. Like this is proof that that is true from time to time. What he's done is he spliced together, Patrick Michael and Jerry Banfield, and the way those two people handle criticism and critics on the internet and their polar opposites and This is it's a little bit longer, but hang in there. This is this is fantastic. Thanks, pro

Why do I have the comments off on my YouTube videos and 100% that's because I don't care To get comments the guy tried to tell me that it's because I was afraid of criticism. It's time for a conversation now about how to deal with people who offer what to you might look like criticism, hate, or negative vibes. Because I've been in many art classes, I've done many artistic things and creative things. And one of the most ridiculous things about that, about being an artist of any kind, is the critique process. It was a literal thing that happens in art class. You do a project, and then one day is spent critiquing everybody's peace.

So I see a lot of people come into my live stream And they'll say things like you're no good at the game You know, you're you're not inspirational. You're not sober all kinds of stuff, right? So what a game is comment about one of my other podcasts and the dude was like he's like you're not funny You're just weird. What does it even mean? I've stopped seeing just weird. What does it even mean? I've stopped seeing any comment as mean or hate now and I've started seeing all comments as helping more people find my stream. I've started seeing all my comments with unconditional love. I don't care if you like it, I don't care if it was funny, I just want you to listen to

it and then move on with your life. It's that simple. I don't know why you came to a podcast expecting us to have the exact same mindset, but hey man, overall, it's like, fuck you. I'm gonna do what I like. I want to show when you come into my stream and you say something like that. I'm here as a spiritual teacher to show you an unconditional love, but when you come into my stream and say you're trashed at the game, I say, hey, nice, thanks for watching, I appreciate you being here, you know. Just know that you will die someday and you spent literal minutes commenting, putting

a thumbs down. Nobody reads your YouTube comments at your eulogy, okay? You're not remembered for leaving cool YouTube comments. You fucking bitches. Well, I love that you're here. Your opinion is valid, and I hope you'll keep watching. You gotta go, I'm blocking you. I'm not gonna hear anything else you need to say. Because you're a fuckboy. My thing is, it's like, hey man, why do we have to hear from you at all?

If you can just ignore or not even respond or let things go that you don't like. You will find that you don't get as much of it in your life. It's like, dude, I'm so sick of all these random fucking strangers pretending to know who I am. It's crazy. It's crazy. I just wanted it to go away and shut the fuck up. Now I'm using it as fuel because nobody can stop you.

When you focus on something you don't like over and over again, you get what you think about. What you resist persists. One of these other comments, the guy said, there's somebody who doesn't care about reviews or whatever he sure talks about them. And yeah, dude, you commented on one of the episodes, or I mentioned my reviews. Nobody should be able to comment or have an opinion about anything if you're not putting your name on it. Online. It's a test to see how I react.

And if I react by being all but her by it. If that's how I react and I failed the test. James Woods, famous actor, got called Cocaine James Woods on Twitter at one point. You know what he did? He sued the guy because he had the means to do so. He has the money and believe me, a lot of us wish we could do that. Think about the next hater that comes along.

That's a spiritual pop quiz. I don't wish actual bad things on anyone. I'm not that type of guy, but I can get violent. As the spiritual test to see, are you gonna go down into eight? Are you gonna go down into fighting? Or are you gonna rise up into love? But if you simply troll me and talk legitimate shit,

I don't waste my time with it. I'm just gonna hit you. Get a three pointer shot right in your eye. How about that? You see me on the court? I'll put 30 in your mouth. How about that? So I hope on the court. I put 13 your mouth. How about that? So I hope this has been helpful for you today. The next time somebody hates and challenges you, I hope this helps you to respond with love.

Ah, Carl. I love you. Very well done, bro. I know that was a bit longer. Well done. It was really well done. And it points out specifically why people like Patrick Michael will continue to fail at life. Yeah. And why people that listen to him will continue to subscribe and love him until he decides that oh no shit, there's five people listening to this. I need to delete this podcast and start a new one. Um, that whole mentality of I don't care. I don't care what you say in that. We all know Carl, you've said it a million times. If you have to say something over and over, it means you do. So he does care that people comment.

He does care that people are saying mean shit to him. He wants to be well loved and embraced. If everyone just flooded him with love, right? And support and all this up, It would be interesting to see, does he change his whole trajectory of how he does his podcast? Does he start getting this, I mean, he's got an ego for no reason

as you guys dissected with Dr. Steve. But does his ego go in a different place? Now that he starts feeling better about himself, maybe he's dressing a little better, maybe he's getting better equipment, his life is starting to improve. And then somebody pulls the rug right out and goes, no, this was just an experiment to see.

If we could change this guy in a month, and now that we know we're pulling the carpet right out into you and your whole life is gonna collapse. That's what we do as a society. We build people up just so we could tear them down. Tear them down. And I agree with you, Eric. I feel like we've been doing the same thing for too long.

People are like, oh, dude, do you party sucks? Brief cases fire. You know, we're constantly telling them the same thing. What if everything was just positive? Every podcast he puts out is great. And we're just, I'd love to see how we responded to that. I think that's a great idea. I can't even, I can't send any kind of message to him because I can't find him anywhere.

Like I don't know what his social media is. The only place I heard of him was from your show and the only place I continue to hear from him is from your show because there'll be times you were talking about a show he does. And I will reach out to you. I go, where do you find this? And he goes, oh yeah, he's not doing that anymore.

It's like, so I'm already late to a podcast. I didn't know existed. And as soon as everybody finds out, he closes up shop and runs away and sets up somewhere else. Right, so he was just promoting an Instagram. And whenever he promotes an Instagram, I usually try to look it up because he's got the one, I don't know if it's like,

Dr. Broken Skull or something where he does the Metal Lear stuff. But he was talking about an Instagram the other day that I'd never heard of. And whenever it was, let's call it patty seecofs, but it was spelled backwards. He goes, it's Instagram.com slash patty seecofs was spelled backwards.

I was like, oh, do you like a mental patient? Well, yeah, he calls himself a different name on each podcast. Yeah, that doesn't help me there. But he doesn't change the character. You know, if you had a, if you had a different name from there and you were a different personality on each podcast, okay, that's another form of mental illness, but you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

You can't just keep changing your name and putting out the same thing over and over and then expecting people to, no, I forgot some of the names that he uses. What's the shamus? The shamus echelonum? Yeah, animal craws. I'll show you this.

Yeah, animal craws, that's the one I was thinking of. It's like, on this guy now, on this guy now, no, you're the same person with no personality change. And here's what else I've noticed too, because you brought this up. He's obsessed with high school. I think that's his only reference point of life because I don't think he went to college.

I don't think if he did, he didn't last long. He's never moved out of the town that he was in. He's that history of a boring town kind of guy. And he can't fun, he thought in high school the world would be like is still what he thinks the world is like from a high school perspective. He's never grown. He's never, even in a professional career,

he still thinks of everything as Arbis. Like I've lived that worked at Arbis. I know what that's about. I know what school is like. I went to high school. I got okay. All right. You did both of those in high school.

Yeah. By the way, I want to point out we know he didn't go to college because the clip I just played recently, he didn't know that students worked at the student radio station. He thought that was just a thing in movies. Oh my God. I think that might might a thing in movies. Oh my God. I think that might, might seal it right there.

I finally got a chance to see what this guy looks like. There was, there's some YouTube video of him online where he's doing a stand-up comedy set for nobody. Yeah. And he's just standing in front of a background and he does like 10 minutes of what he's doing. Oh, you watched the whole one. So that 20 minutes set, I set set, I sent that to Brian Johnson.

And I remember, because we were talking about him, I got sent it to you. And you know, week or two went by. And then also when I get a note out of nowhere, my wife and I just sat down and watched this, it's amazing. Like they made me, like, it was like a Saturday date,

but they like, I gotta save this for the right time. Let's get the popcorn out. What a reminder. What a reminder baby. Without any of the talent, it reminded me of, you know when they show Saturday live audition tapes for very famous people. Oh, yes. Right.

So they have to come out on, like they'll have a curtain drawn on the set and then they do their whole performance. There's no audience reaction or interaction and they just do their whole thing and you know it's funny, but there's no left to be had for what they're doing and they're done in a couple minutes and they go, thank you, because it's just them performing in front of like two producers and Lauren Michaels from what the stories go. It's interesting to see, but you can also imagine putting yourself in their shoes and go, wow, this is awkward and horrible, having to do that. He's willingly doing this for no job opportunity.

Like nobody's asking for an audition. He's putting this out there as if he thinks this is top quality programming. He doesn't know how to monetize anything. He doesn't know how to sell anything. And if he was serious about this, he loves comedy from all the clips that you've been playing. He loves Killtony and Tony Hinskleeve stuff. If he was really trying to do this,

he'd be out there selling his stuff. He wouldn't be like, I don't care what you think. I'm not going on other shows. Don't listen to my stuff. That's the exact opposite of a guy who's trying to break into comedy or some sort of career success. He does everything wrong. And it's not even like you're watching a show where this is a scripted thing of the guy does everything wrong. It's even weirder and more bizarre that this is a real life person

who takes every wrong direction and does everything against the better judgment of what people are advising him on. And on some level, he must know he's not good or else he would take a chance and he would put himself out there. Now, with the exception of that Killtoni set, he did send in a minute long set and was on Killtoni,

but you're familiar with that show, almost every comedian bombs. That's kind of the stick that's gonna the point. Yeah, that's kind of the point of it. These guys come up, bomb and then Killtoni goes, what the fuck was that? And that's kind of the whole show format. So it's a terrible variety show and where you're

expected to, it'll be, it's a rarity if you go out there and, and, and kill and get two laughs. If you get two laughs, that's a rarity. Yeah. All the people who would kill are sitting at the table with Tony judging the people who won't kill. But I will say, I love the fact that you and Anthony have picked up on this character. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about this on Monday sometimes. Phil will be sitting there and he goes, so, gee, gee, here, uh, do you hear the John

clip? Yeah, I did. Here they hope big clip. Oh, certainly did. What about that Patrick Michael guy? Oh my God. Like, it's so exciting to talk about this guy. He looks like a failed hot topic manager.

You know, he's got these weird hoops in his ears or what are they called gauges in his ears? Yeah. And you go, like, what is the look? Like, what is he going for? He can't get a job looking like that. And he's not even trying. So does he have a real career?

Does he work anywhere? Or does he love off somebody? He doesn't. So you say he looks like a failed Hot Topic Manager. I think he looks like a career hot topic, right? You're like, he's been doing that. That's what he's going to be doing for the next 30 years. No, I think it's failed. I think he, he, he got the job, went and got the tats and the piercings. And then like a month later, they realized, you know, he's not, he doesn't know how to manage schedules or he's putting out all the stuff that has a bar go like this doesn't go out till Friday and it's already sold and it's Instagram. And so like they fired him.

So he dressed the parting guy and then lost the job. All right. You might be right. You might be out of something there. I can't argue with any of that logic. So and that's fine. And that's fine. Who cares?

Oh, so the answer to your question is, he does live, he's a stay-at-home dad, his fiance, Carly, works, and he can't hold down a job. I don't think that him and society mix well together. I think that the Arby's thing was the last thing that he tried to do, and it just didn't work out. And now it's like, well, I'm gonna hang out at home,

I'm gonna screen Metalirics for Instagram, I'm gonna record podcasts three or four a day. And I love the idea that he has all this, I'm gonna listed it in the discord, all the different names that he has. So, you know, you got Glitch Fredberg and Rosalie Red and Bobby Bichdett, so that was Sean's day for him. Animal Crosley, she has McKillian, Patty C. Cups. But he's like the opposite of Jim Norton.

Like Jim Norton is characters who can interact with each other. All of his characters are the same person. Like this loser in Indiana. Yeah, no talent. It's like, it's like glass, you know, the M-night Shyamalan or split. The series there with James McAvoy where he had all these different personalities and he would take on the physical and mental properties of each personality that was in him. This is just a guy equivalent sitting in a mental hospital saying I'm this guy, I'm this guy, I'm this guy, but he doesn't have any real problems. He just goes there because he has no way to hang out with.

So he's just hanging out at mental hospitals because people give him food. He plays checkers. There's a TV in there. There's people around. He's walking around. Nothing's changed here. Everything's broke. I've been here seven years. That's what this guy does.

And you said something of a recent episode that I was floored with. He's talking about headphones, and he has apparently a wall of headphones. Yeah. All five, like, you get from five below, the really crappy headphones, and he's like, look, this is the blue one, this is what I wear when I do this show, or I wear the camouflage ones

when I'm doing this show. It's like, it doesn't work like that. Like, nothing matters with him. And he doesn't realize that none of this matters. And he thinks it does. Yeah, he's doing it wrong. At a certain point, and this was a year or so ago, at a certain point, he was bragging that he had

three separate rooms where he could podcast from in his house or his apartment. He's like, we all do. We all do. You can take the recorder. Look, I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna go out to our studio. I'm gonna sit in my backyard. Now I have a luscious outdoor studio with a view.

You have that? The way you do it is with a green screen. Everybody knows that. I have some joy stuttering John Clepps this week that I'm excited to play for you. The what you were referencing was the stuttering John Green Screen incident. So we did it on Anthony show two different times. Yes. And got like two different reactions from the people Anthony was talking to. We put it up on the YouTube channel.

I'm trying to find the one with Chrissy. I saw on YouTube. That was one with Chrissy. And I think there's one with Gino too. Yeah. That's up on there. But it did amazingly well. It's, yeah, it's almost at 40,000 views on this thing.

And we just put it up. And it's hilarious. It's the funniest video you've ever seen. As the city of Los Angeles is falling over, just to reveal that John is living in disgusting filth. Well, I want to point this out because hearing it on your show, the audio, hearing the thing clumps down. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,umps down. Oh, and you know, him just scrambling to get it up as hilarious. Seeing the video, even more

hilarious, but studying the video, really, there's something that you guys didn't even touch on. So if you watch when he gets the screen back up and you see this like futuristic version of a city behind him, if you stare at it real quick, there's water marks all over the photo. Are they really? So he didn't get a legitimate photo. He didn't get it from like a shutter stock or one of those services that you can get license photos from. He stole the sample that he sites you.

So when he sits there, you just see text water marks all over the back. Oh, God. I've noticed that. That's hilarious. Yeah. That's how cheap this guy is. Well, his camera isn't very high-res, so he probably figured out what noticed that. Yeah, but when you, if you look at the video again another time, when he gets the screen back up and he's sitting down there trying to get situated, just pause and take a look. You'll see all the text watermark going all over the photo. Yeah, someone just posted it at our discord, so definitely check that out. Yeah.

He starts off this episode this past week, and I guess this is happening to him a lot now. Somebody has his phone number, and they like to call him right when the show starts. Like, right when he's about to like get into like, whatever he really wants to talk about How's everybody doing? Before I start

Let me just say 25 years ago on this day up. It comes the usual Here it comes There is the usual Spam call that calls right when the show starts. This one came from Canada. Oh, it's a hockey puck. Hockey puck.

Hockey puck. I, uh, you know, having been victim of having your phone number given out on the air, it's not fun to receive that, but I will say it is hilarious to hear that on another show. When somebody's numbers get out and their phone just doesn't stop ringing while they're trying to do like a news piece or a serious broadcast or just even entertain a conversation. And there's constant phone, your phone is constantly going off with people spamming you is hilarious. What's hilarious about it is that he's like, oh, it's going off again. He never remembers to turn off his phone

before he starts his podcast. And also you can hear that the phone goes off and then it goes off on the computer. Because what Apple does is it syncs up on your devices. So, right? First got my phone, I had my computer and my iPad and my phone all going berserk. I didn't have someone called me.

So what I did producer Chris, is I turned that off. Wow. So that it wouldn't happen anymore. John still has not done that. John still said, whoa, shit, everything's going off. It's going off. You turned it off? I turned it.

Yeah, I made it so that my computer didn't fucking wig out just because someone's calling my iPhone. People hacking me. It's all YouTube. They're trying to suppress me. I'm not gonna know if Amber is calling me? All right, so typically I don't get into John and his political talk because,

right. What are you gonna do? But this week, it's so out there that I just have to play what he's been talking about because he is obsessed with a guy named Donald Trump. You ever heard of him? Oh, yeah. Okay.

Oh, the guy from WWE. Yeah, he was also on NBC for a little bit. Um, but so I think it was dancing with this. I can't remember. Sure. So apparently there's this new report that came out. And John is just not not happy about what's going on here. I cannot believe what is going on.

What is going on is unbelievable. I mean, this new report shows what's what we've, look, you heard it here. First people, Craig Angle was on this show, along with the former KGB agent that I'm now blanking on his name. They said Trump has, LB has been saying this, by the way LB is coming on on Saturday, has been saying this for so long. Trump has been compromised by Putin for years. And now we learn that Putin knew that Trump was the perfect idiot that they could use

as a puppet. We're going to cover all this today. This is a brand new episode. Erock, are you familiar with what he's talking about? It's, no, it's the same thing he says every single time. So I didn't know what this was either. I hadn't heard about this, but apparently a few days ago, the Guardian put out a report and it says that Vleta Repun

personally ordered a top secret spy operation to help a mentally unstable Donald Trump win the 2016 election. According to documents, the Guardian newspaper says we're leaked from the Kremlin, helping Trump's secure victory will definitely lead to destabilization of the U.S.'s social political system that report predicts. The British newspaper doesn't say where the documents came from or how they have been authenticated.

The Kremlin has rejected their authenticity and Putin spokesman dismissed the story as great pulp fiction and utter nonsense. Now, John says in that clip I just played, Craig Unger was on his show, and Craig Unger has been talking about this forever. Now, Craig Unger wrote a book about Russian collusion. He published an article that was highly skeptical of this report from the Guardian. He reached out to the reporter,

and he was referred to the paper's media representative. The reporter wouldn't even talk to this guy who's on the same side as him. This is a bullshit report that was made up by the Guardian. This is the problem with Stettering John. It's confirmation bias and it's worse. Where he hears this crazy fringe thing. He's like, oh, there's proof. And the idea is that Putin back when he was just a candidate, he wasn't even the frontrunner.

They're like, we gotta get behind Trump, because if we can get Trump in office, then there'll be massive destabilization of the US, which yeah, the news media went fucking nuts, but everything else actually went really well. And so, here you have Southern John in here going, holy shit, everything we've been talking about is totally true, and by the way,

the whole Russian collusion thing has been proven to be incorrect. I mean, I don't know how many times we're gonna talk about this, but John says this. And I'm telling you I'm not lying here. And I don't think he's lying. Not lying. I think he believes this.

I think he's just wrong. It's interesting when you want to hate something or you want so desperately to have what you believe be true, you'll pick and choose what side of course anything is coming out. So the Guardian, right? New site, not normally really held in high respects by anybody for journalism. It's almost sort of a gossip kind of piece. Yeah, it's a left leaning gossip right?

Yeah. But if the stories came out against the opposing side, they're like, so you know, this is what they put out there. That's credible. But then if it comes out against your side, you go, well, you know, that's all, that's a little editorials and opinions and then half of its bullshit. So you're using a source that nobody really recognizes as being legit. Like you can say whatever your beliefs are, you can say about legit media and you know fake news and all that shit.

But if you see an article comes out or a news blurb comes out you look and check the source and you go uh... most of the time they're not that credible you still wait for it to come from from CNBC or from NBC or Fox or CNN or the New York Times the Washington Post you can shittle over those institutions if you want. But that's where, if it comes from them, you're gonna be more inclined to believe it than if it's coming from the Guardian or some kind of dot org blog site.

Or daily mail, yeah. Yeah, and then he always goes to stories like that because one, he can't pay for the New York Times subscription, the $1 for the day, that you can pay to read the damn articles so he goes to these other things and goes see this is exactly what we're talking about no well because idiots like you are gonna believe this is the shit that's going on

and you're like i don't want to get into a whole debate with you but the new york times was talking about russian collusion for three years they're also completely full of shits of course, but, but, anything else, if you would go, it's like, if it came off a blog, you don't believe it, but if you saw that it came off of the New York Times website, you could at least source it and people with thickness credibility, correct?

Right, you don't have to believe them, but you're more likely to believe them if it's coming from a source like that than it is from the Guardian. So this is one of my favorite clips of John. It's a longer clip, but this breaks down his political intelligence. Right. There is none. He's playing the clip of Ted Cruz talking about the border and the border crisis and the fact that letting people in is actually spreading COVID-19, and there's this title 42 that was passed in March of 2020, and is set to expire, or the Biden administration wants it to expire,

and they want it to keep it in place. And he plays the whole thing of Ted Cruz talking about it. And I am ready for Stuttering John to present his argument. Why Ted Cruz is full of shit? Or what he's wrong about after this long thing that he played and this tells you everything you need to know about John's intelligence. Making this crisis at the border even worse than it are. Yeah, okay, Ted. Okay. Enough is enough with you. You lion sycophant. First off, you scumbag.

Donald can Trump call your wife ugly and you worship the ground that he walks. That says it all about you, Ted. Okay? That alone says it all about you Ted, okay? That alone says it all about you. If somebody insulted my wife, if I had one, do you think for a second I would worship this person, do you think any man or woman whose spouse got insulted by Donald J. Trump would be sitting there

applauding that very same idiot? I don't think so. And let's not forget, Ted, you're the sick affair that decided to leave your state when people were freezing to death. That's who you are, Ted. Stop trying to push down the droats of Texans that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are somehow evil. The only evil is you and your disgusting, king party. Now I'll bring in Aaron Rupal. All right. No sense of flow has marble cadence. He always talks like his mouth is full of saliva or he's choking on flim.

Two things, one, you gotta isolate. I don't think though. Maybe he's choking on flim. Two things, one, you got to isolate. I don't think though. You can use that for your show. And then two, he just learned the word sick of fans. Yes. Because he kept overusing it. So either he got a word a day calendar or he heard somebody using it and it's like, oh, that sounds like a big word. I'll be smart and apply it to my vernacular. And then overuse is it. So I oh, that sounds like a big word. I'll be smart and apply it to my vernacular and then overuses it. So I've noticed that with John, when he starts using a different term that he doesn't normally say,

he just learned that word. Yeah, and then he overuses it and then he forgets the word by the next show. You'll never hear him say it again. Right, it's out of his mind. He saw someone on MSNBC used that word that word together. He says it on his show and then it's gone after that.

You make me sick of that. So what's great is that he's trying to debate Ted Cruz over the murder crisis and how we're gonna handle it and his response is, yeah, but Trump called your wife ugly and remember we had a snow storm, you went to Cancun. It's like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm not following your argument here, John. And there's people watching his show who are on his side

who are a very left-leaning Democrats. And we got to get Biden to blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, wouldn't you go somewhere else if that's where your political leanings were? This guy is giving you nothing. And you know what else, John hasn't learned to where, for, I'll say this in the sense of talk radio, right? There's a reason why conservative talk radio does well

and liberal talk radio doesn't, because conservative talk radio fills in the gaps of all the rest of the country for the South, the Midwest, small markets, you know, people who don't have, or don't feel like they have a voice or somebody championing their points of view and their views. He doesn't understand when it comes to doing this, that when your side wins and your side's in power, you shift your conversation to more of about preaching about your agendas and what your guys are doing right and everything

That's going good with your side. You do fight the fight with the other side But the majority of your of your content is is sort of like a boasting that you guys kind of won Here's what Biden's doing here's when he went overseas to the g7. Here's what happened here Here's what they're doing at the border. You're defending your side. He never does that. He never champions his own side. He says I'm on this side and then goes after the issues that no one's really given a shit about. And he's fighting the wrong fight every time. Well, it's that what we all predicted if Trump loses, there's been a lot of people that have nothing to talk about anymore. And it was one of these people and he has not figured out how to pivot from that because he's just, he's still fucking talking about Trump nonstop. Actually,

Iraq, you sent me a clip when I was playing, uh, John's retarded political talk a few weeks ago that I think sums is I might have played another show before, but I still have to play it anyway. Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. a bunch of clouds as a keep up with the news like that yes that's exactly that exactly john's political rhetoric every week is that that fucking uh... the robot machine that was replacing uh... uh... bill and marty on the simpsons for the morning radio show what's crazy about praising the machine he is he immediately goes to

insulting people when he doesn't like Republicans. He has to just call them dickless and they're fucking assholes. So after that rant, he brings on his guest as we heard in the previous. So Aaron Rupar comes on. And Aaron Rupar actually is going to address

what Cruz was saying and try to give the other perspective of what Democrats might think about this. Um, yeah, I mean, I saw someone pointing out that, um, which is true, I think that, you know, does kind of remind me a little bit of like Nazi rhetoric. Oh, all right. Well, he didn't do that much of a better job, didn't he? I call everybody a Nazi. Ted Cruz is a Nazi.

All right. there you go. This gets crazier later on in the show when John is talking about. So this guy loses connection for a minute and now it's just up to John to fill some time. And he's talking about a book that's coming out from General Mark Millie, but it's actually not General Mark Millie. It's these two Washington Post reporters, very far left leaning reporters who interviewed this guy. And this is John's take away from what this book is going to be. Top US general said Trump preaches gospel of the fira and feared he would lead a coup.

Trump was the classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose according to the general. In an upcoming book by two Pulitzer Prize winning journalists, US chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, liked in Donald Trump to aid off Hitler. Okay. Some peeps. I've been saying this for a long time now. And people have said to me, oh, come on, that's ridiculous. How could you compare Trump to Hitler? How? Because Ivana said he had Hitler speeches next to his bed as night table. That's the only reading he did. to his bed as night table. That's the only reading he did. That'll truck worships Adolf Hitler. And he's following the same playbook. So I don't know, John actually thinks this. If he does, he's deranged. I don't think John performs. Like you can listen to like a Sean Hadadier, Ben Shapiro.

And you can, if you listen long enough, you can tell what they're amplifying for the radio and what they actually believe. You can you can write sort of all out. John doesn't have that. He's not he's not turning it up to 11 for the radio for entertainment or cringe factor or anything like that. I think he believes whatever he's saying at the moment. I agree. He's got a goldfish memory. Whatever he said is like, that must be the truth. I said it. And it's like, no, that's not how this works. I wanted

to give him the benefit of the doubt for a second. They doesn't actually think that Donald Trump is equal to Hitler because that would be an insane thing to think. But then he says this. And yet Ted Cruz and Kevin McCarthy and Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley are kissing the ring of the next eight off Hitler. Of the next eight off Hitler, I gotta say, they would have been Hitler already. He was in office. That's what I'm gonna say. If he's gonna start throwing people in camps and invading other countries, he's getting

a real wayweight start doing. He's got a fucking good eye of that shit. It's coming, Jesuane, it's coming. Okay, he's four years, he's not the next killer. He's so ridiculous. Into the bunker. Oh, I got something to tell you real quick about John. Yeah.

Not gonna give out names, but I know a lot of comedians who have had who have worked with John in the past, some for many years. And anytime we talk about John, they love to bring up a couple of traits of what John does. John, where you know how comics bust balls. If you ever listen to open Anthony, yeah, we're not dropping a dance. Yeah, keep going. Yeah. If you ever listened to open Anthony or Howard and you would hear the comics that were on that show, they all hang out together and they all just verbally destroy each other, but they're the best of friends, right? John could never do that. So if you, if they try to bring him

in on the loop, like if he was doing comedy shows with them and they'd bust the ball, he would immediately, like you said, turn to anger. What do you mean you don't like my shirt? What do you mean we're like, John, we're just bustin' your balls, relax. So apparently he doesn't know how to interact like a comic, as he says he is a comic. The other thing he loves to do is that he loves to remind people that he did a favor for them 30 years ago. Right. Yes, he does. So he'll to remind people that he did a favor for them 30 years ago. Yes, he does. So he'll say that and he goes, remember that time, you know, you did this and you asked me if I could help you out and I helped you and did this.

It's like, well, you still kind of owe me. Can you get me on this show? Can we do this? And it's like, dude, we've helped, that was 20 years ago and that was one little thing. You don't need to keep bringing that up all the time. But I've heard from several comics that said that this is John's MO all the time is that if he needs, he only wants to interact with you if he needs something from you. And then he guilt you or tries to guilt you or bully you into the fact that of a goes, I did this for you back in the day and you weren't be able to do this if I didn't help you. And you're like, no, John,

I've more than paid that back to you. That's why I agree with your assessment that what he is on his show is his true personality because you see him doing those types of things all the time. And it's like, oh, John, that's a bad look. You probably shouldn't be doing that. When he's asking for favors and reminding people things that he's done for them. But the worst is this idea that he can't get his balls busted and take it in stride.

There's an episode that I really need to dig into of the Anthony Cumie show when already was on the already an Anthony show where John was the guest. And those two just gang up on John and he could not fucking take it. It is hilarious. And while you're doing that, look for the episode where Anthony and John dissected his, uh, the movie where Anthony and John dissected his the movie that he paid national ampunes to use to use their moniker so he could put a movie out.

They just sat there and they just dissected the whole movie. Wait, Anthony, and who did that? And I think it was Anthony and Arty. Anthony Arty, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause one too many is one of the worst movies ever made. I watched the entire thing unfortunately.

It's not even a good, bad movie. It's not like you could watch it and laugh and enjoy it for how comically bad it is. You're just sitting there and you go, there's nothing happening in this movie. John thinks he can fuck college girls and he can't. And then that's the rest of the movie. Well, Merch from ROTC pointed out brilliantly that he thought he was the next animus handler because he's got his part where he picked up the acoustic guitar and he's singing the song and then he's got the hot chick who's out of his league and that he's like

None of it works. Oh, yeah. None of it works. None of it works Assessment I was gonna say that as we know or as we're told Hitler responsible for the death of 6 million Jews and you think all right Well if Trump is the next Hitler, you would think he'd at least get a start on something like that. Well, he has Eric. I'll say it once I'll say it again. Donald Trump is responsible for 600,000 American lives lost.

Okay. 100,000 American lives lost. Okay. Now 600,000. This number is including while Biden has been president for seven months. I just want to point that out. I think when when John started that whole thing about Trump being responsible for lives, it was I think it was because when the vaccine was about to come out, and nobody was really sure if vaccine was about to come out,

and nobody was really sure if this was the way to go, other countries jumped in and bought like a million doses right away, site unseen. Trump didn't do that. He said, well, we're not paying for this. We don't wanna see how it works first and whatever. And because it looked like we were a bit late to the game, he was just kind of like, we're not ready to buy this yet

We don't know we'll see how the rest of the rest of the world be the guinea pigs on it essentially John has been harping on this whole thing and so you just let people die You didn't just buy the thing and let let everybody have it. No, it was actually kind of the smart move to do Did wait to see if this was effective then when we found out was effective? Guess what they bought all the vaccines and everyone has them. Whether you choose to take it or not is up to you. But he's doing that. Yeah, it's part of the opposite of that.

We're rosy with vaccines. We don't know what the fuck, they're expiring. We don't know what the fuck you're doing. I think that's where it's stemmed from with John. He's like, look at all these people dying because he didn't act fast enough. It's like, no, anybody else, plenty of other countries didn't act fast enough

because they were waiting to see if this thing was going to work. We weren't just gonna inject everybody with poison. And like, whoops, countries didn't act fast enough because they were waiting to see if this thing was going to work We weren't just going to inject everybody with poison and like whoops We didn't know we'll we'll try we'll get it in the beta testing on this Yeah, he he grabs some little kernel of not even truth just a sound bite or some kind of thought that somebody once had And then it festers in there and then he builds a whole system off that one little thought and then doesn't Research past that point. Well, I was like I remember hearing this once. So it's got to be true And I tell that's true It was over and over that is true

He repeats things that have been debunked for months and he just kids could he's repeating him You won't even hear that he's wrong about it But I wonder though if Trump is responsible for every single life lost to COVID, and you can argue whether COVID's solely responsible, I mean, obviously, six percent. So what about Fauci? How many lives, he's responsible for zero lives loss? Cause he was telling people not to wear a mask.

March of last year. I don't know. That's interesting too. So if I'm not doing it, I'm certainly, you're not gonna do this. But if somebody out there wants to go back and listen to old John episodes, when Trump was still in power,

and then Fauci was telling everybody to do this, see if he had anything negative to say about Fauci when Trump was in office. I'd be curious. Compared to now with Fauci with Biden in office, see if he's like cheerleading Fauci now because Biden is in office. I guarantee you he did that.

At somewhere in one of his episodes, he made that switch because the other sides in power now. So John has a second guest come on. This woman, Sarah Reese Jones, and he brings her on the show, ranting about Donald Trump, and then Wontard a comment on it. Now remember, the thing that John's upset about

is this article out of the guardian that nobody thinks is credible, not even people who hate Trump. Think this is credible, and he's trying to get his guess to be as riled up as he is about it. This thing is that, you know, we're used to this. You know, it Trump is going to be Trump and let's get over it. Me, I'm not, I'm not ever going to stop. Are you talking about the coup? Are you talking about the Russia stuff like what are we She's like, all right, so what's the about drop are you upset about are now all of it every single part of it? Aren't you pissed too about everything? Who is and

Prentice Jesus Christ It's the worst and then this woman at the end of the interview with her He doesn't even know what website she's from all right souries jones from politicus USA I felt so So bad I was saying politics USA, but now I learned it's politicus Okay, and in the description he had it written politics USA He didn't even correct it on youtube where it was politicus. He didn't even know where his guess was from

Very good. He gets all these guests that look I'm not a big political person So I don't know half these people he has I was getting these people. Yeah, yeah, so I am like I thought I'd at least hear some names like in the news cycle or something I don't know a single person he gets on there. I think he's somebody turned him on to like a prep burger account and they're like, Hey, you want this expert to be on your morning show? They'll talk about what's going on in this situation. And that's what he's booking.

That's got something like that. So this guy Aaron Rupar. Now, when I saw him on the show this week, I was like, Oh, that's the guy from the famous cockroach video. He finally got this guy back again. Right. The guy when he freaked out about cockroaches in his house and stupid.

He doesn't have cockroaches, girl. Oh, of course he does, and Eric, stupid, stupid John has to bring up cockroaches to this guy. He kicked out of his own way. It's like, John, it goes back to the Patrick Michael thing. It's like, oh, I don't even care about that. I don't even think about that. So why do you keep bringing it up? If you don't care about

Patrick, or if you don't care about Dick Masterson and you don't care about Roy and Dr. Steve, why have you brought it up 18 times in the last month? So this is John doing that again. Thank you, Justin, case for the two bucks. Look, he's a cockroach. And here's a segue speaking of cockroaches Aaron, you were on when I had those, the case of the three or four cockroaches in my place. Believe it or not, I've never, ever had another one again. Wow. Oh, it's good news. Yeah, that was probably, man, that was probably about a year ago now. Wow. Well, that's good. I mean, if it's been that long, then you're probably in the clear. Um, wow, well, that's good. I mean, if it's been that long, then you're probably in the clear.

So I brought boxes from my ex-wives garage, you know, cockroaches loved to eat cardboard. So I guess there was a few in there. He's still debating with who I don't know whether or not he has a cockroach at the station. It's his way of getting out in front of it is reminding everyone of it. He's keeping it. It's going.

I why? Why bring it up? Even his cast is like, oh yeah, the cockroaches. I forgot about that. That was like a year ago. It wasn't like it was a famous Howard bit. Right. You know, like this wasn't like, oh, you were on this time.

Remember I had the cockroaches on Howard and not that like where everybody would remember it. Correct. It's a famous W-A-T-P-P. Yes! Oh! It's fucking amazing. What a moron.

Somebody brought this up in your chat here and I have to agree. All these guests, he somehow gets on a show and not one of them has invited them on their properties. They're done an interview with him, an article on him, invited him to anything. Nobody, even House Parks, doesn't invite him to anything. Right. And that's been something that people talked about quite a bit because House Parks does stand up shows.

And John's never the feature act. You'd think that there's such good buddies. I'll take you on the road with me. House Parks will join Steel Panther on stage at times. Oh, is that true? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like House Parks more now. Yeah, right.

That's cool. How bad is John that people won't even bring him to a bring or show in order to get credit for them to go on stage? You're like, no, no, I don't really need the time that much. I'm not going to bring John. I always was curious about his comics, his comedy stuff. And this is where the discussion with other comics about working with John. They would bring him to places because when he was a name at the time

with Howard, but two, there were sort of friends with him, but he just never had an act like he would go up there and riff or he would tell jokes on the equivalent of like Jackie level, but Jackie can deliver that. People are going to see a Jackie Marling show to see Jackie be Jackie. You can't do Jackie stuff and not do it as good as Jackie and then try to riff it for 20 minutes up on stage. And he's still doing that, but he's never at any of the clubs in L.A. Like I think he's in L.A. Right? Yeah, he's still in L.A. He's never at any of the clubs. You never see video footage of, you know, hanging out at the comedy seller or the laugh factory or any of these big places where their names, whether they're a massive star for being

a comic or just well-known comedians, he's never in the mix at a party on other people's podcast at comedy shows. So what is he doing? Well, barbecue restaurants and strip malls. Is the answer to that? There. He's like, I saw this episode of the office on performing a Chili's. I actually saw that he's playing a show this weekend, I believe, and there's like six or seven comedians

on the show. I didn't recognize any of their names. Several Jay Moore was out and I was like, oh, shit. All right. I mean, what does that say about Jay Moore's career, but he owes John a favor probably. Probably. Remember that time.

Remember Jay, I told you how would you, you'd be a great guest. I'm gonna answer the phone call when you call it now, because I'm the phone screener. Remember. John's the equivalent of that old radio bit where it's like, hey, we're going to give this prize away. You have, if you know a famous friend, if you have a famous friend, the person with

the most famous friend that calls into the show is going to win these tickets or whatever. And that's what John does, but for his show. Yeah. All right. One more clip to play. Now, John gets his advertising through a company called CLNSmedia.com. Are you familiar with this company, EROC?

No, not at all. Now, I wouldn't be either except for probably three years ago, they reached out to me and asked me if I wanted to join their network. And I don't know why I did this, but I went to their website and saw they were new England based and they had a bunch of shows about how great Tom Brady is and I wrote them back

and told them to go fuck themselves. I don't like Tom Brady. I guess it's my plate. But anyway, John for some reason is connected with these guys because when he does ad reads, he reads their promo code, CLNAS50. Now he reads the wrong copy. And like we were talking about earlier, Eric, I don't want to give people canceled.

I'm not one of these people, it's like a tattle tale. Right. But I doubt these guys are really paying that much attention to the ad reads that are getting out of this guy. If somebody wanted to send CLNAS media.com, this clip, I maybe John would be told like he's not doing it right.

This is from this past week. And I still have not, I don't know, I always forget to do this, but I really have to get these just freaking desktop organized. Bed online is the f**k, this an easiest way to bed on all your sports action. Football might be over, but NBA college basketball. Okay, I don't know. This is not the right one. It doesn't matter. NBA, I think you're still going on. Do you know all this has to be dev college basketball and the ad copy

He goes that be a still going on. There's two or three games left The day's still got nothing matter advertisers don't care they don't get the way you reads these ads to is he's he's always like a pilot I'm like all right bear with me. I gotta get through this ad read you know, we got we gotta pay the bills He flings his arms out like in front like he's loosening up like some men are going to do some drinking. And no one is getting watched the magic for doing these reads. John's the type that would certain advertisers for podcasts have notes in the copy that say do not over sexualize this do not whatever, you know, whatever their notes are, their requirements are and says, please make sure you thank the podcast, thank the company for sponsoring your podcast at the end.

Yeah. He seems like the type that reads everything in the brackets that tells you not to say these things on the air. Remember to tell a funny anecdote about using your product. All right. Uh, and then the promo code is, uh, a CLI, I was supposed to read that part. Don't say this part. Please remember to thank Blue Chiu for sponsoring the podcast. And we thank Blue Chiu for sponsoring the podcast. So another thing that happened this week is he retold the story about taking home a hot lesbian from pickwik pub. And then not being able to get a heart on I didn't pull that. I think we've talked about that before on here. But if we haven't, let heart on. I didn't pull that, I think we've talked about that before on here,

but if we haven't, let me know. I'll be happy to bring that next week because he tells the story where you'd think he's the hero of the story and he's like, none of it's true because he talks about this as hot lesbian and there have any conversation. She goes, I miss dick like hot lesbian say all the time. Oh my gosh, I haven't had a dick and so long.

Be great. So he's like, oh, I got a dick. Let's go back to my place. So she goes, yeah, sure And then they go back to his place. He gets a hard on the right home and raging hard on then he gets back to the place Takes her clothes off and now he's soft. I for suffering is I don't know how that works And he's eating her out and he's like, but she doesn't like that because she gets that all the time It's the great it's a great story I feel like we played it, but maybe I should have grabbed it. Just based on Chris's story. I'm willing to believe that story is true based on what you're saying. I wanted to be true. Some of it's true for sure. I don't know if she was

hot or a lesbian, but she's probably fat and 70. What's your pronouns? He can't just assume. Also, this week, I want to report that Cardiff Electric. Do you know Cardiff Electric is? You know, that in Wales. No, he's this Twitter guy who pretends to love all things, Stuttering John. He also like puts things out where it seems like he's a Stuttering John sack account, but he's doing it on purpose. So he'll think that he's a Stuttering John sack account. Anyway, he sent me a DM just this morning. He says, $500 and I'll do 10 minutes at your live show.

Now, this is the guy who's been doing the hashtag, SJ Army and Chicago mission. He's been threatening to beat me up in Chicago Which but god bless you bad come to the show in Chicago with hundreds of whtp fans. Oh, let's fight. What are you stupid? Well? What are you gonna do with that? Okay fair enough go for it I might have an acoustic guitar that I will break over your head I'm not gonna break my knife. So I wrote back 10 minutes of what?

I'll do 10 minutes at your live show. What do you do? So he says, addressing the trolls and haters, but you need to be prepared to deal with the truth. So I wrote back a counteroff. I said, how about I give you zero dollars and give you five minutes? I think that's a pretty good offer.

It's a good offer. Five minutes to be at the end of the truth. That shit dumb pop stars say when like, I was ready to speak my truth, or are you ready to handle my truth? It's just a bullshit term that makes like, look, I don't even like your music. I know you're a hot chick,

but the fact that you're speaking like this this is why guys don't like you this is why every guy cheats on you and leaves you because you say stupid shit like that I don't know a card of electric deal is I kind of think that this is a troll troll account it has to be I think it's playing the long game yeah and if it's if the words are being spelled correctly you know it's playing the long game. Yeah, and if it's, if the words are being spelled correctly, you know it's not John, but it's somebody that's wanting to carry John's favor. Actually, he pretends to be John because what he writes to me after that is, keep stealing content looser.

So he always spells loser with two O's, which I think is like, is nod to like, see, I'm settling John, I'm stupid. You're like, okay, yeah. How bad is it that you're pretending to be stirring, John, as a troll account? I don't know. I don't know. That is really, really sad. Anyway, that's card of elected. So John just goes on stage and like the equivalent of the end of Jay and Silent Bob,

where they have the shit printed off from the internet and they're just going around the country finding the people that said nasty shit about them and beating them up. Is he just going around the country finding the people that said nasty shit about them beating them up Is he just going on stage and reading all the shit that's been said about him and and under the guys that he thinks he's doing You know edgy humor. Did you say I have clown shoes? That's one of the best bits of that movie because it's a joke. No one would actually do that right and that's his stand-up tour Yeah, that's his stand up tour. That's his stand up tour.

Folks, and he sits there, he holds a big stack of papers and he didn't hit it with a tan like this and goes, folks, got a bunch of fresh new material here for you. We're gonna delve into this. And then he gets the red light in 10 minutes. Like no one gives a shit about hating you online, John. That is fantastic. Well, Eric, I want to thank you so much for your time today. What have we done?

We've done it all. We've done, we've done too much, then I regret all of it. Yes. We talked about Steve and Kyle. We didn't even talk about why Kyle is no longer an intern, but let's just say you could be featured on the creep off. We talked about, are you garbage? Tell them Steve Dave, Steve Dave, Scott Pettingill.

Todd Pettingill. Todd Pettingill. Why do I have my notes wrong? Take it out and post, Carl, do the edit. Watch this, ready? Todd Pettingill. Yep. We talked about the difference between Patrick Michael and Jerry Banfield and how they handle

trolls. Right. We were going to throw out Paris Hilton but Casey Armstrong's birthdays today and he couldn't come. We talked about the Stuttering John podcast. So you know what that means? It's time for everybody's favorite part of the show. The team.

The team. The team. The team. The team. The team. The team. The team is the team. The team is the team. That's it. Erock, have you ever made this fire into the show before? No.

Okay. This is the party show. This is the confessional, I like it. This is the party show we play at Clip from the podcast. We'll be reviewing on next week's WOTP to get people excited about it. And this is what it sounds like. We were 628 of the AM this morning.

Unreal. Unreal. Unreal. Look me in my eye, suck, it's 628. And he woke up happy. Happy. We woke up to the, like on the monitor, here's Finn just babbling to himself and eating his feet.

Hey girl. He wasn't, he didn't wake up at 5 a.m. like, hey, swear him like, no, happy, happy little baby in his bed. And then West comes wandering at it like 6.45 and he's like, what's up mom and dad? How you doing? And I was like, wow, is this,

is this what it like? Is this gonna be life? Is this next chapter? This is a show called Babysteps. It's a suggestion from Jen from the Jingles department. Let me read the description of this show, please. In this irreverent weekly parenting podcast, YouTube stars Ned and Ariel Fulmer revealed the dirty, messy truths behind raising a blissfully Instagram ready family.

Follow Ariel's pregnancy journey week by week with a dash of not-so-expert advice, trending product reviews, and poop in your big boy pants Ross and Sarity from a couple experiencing the extreme life upheaval We call the miracle of life in real time. And with that, I do want to congratulate you on baby Shirok, Eric. Don't tire into this awful podcast. Well, I wanted to congratulate you anyway. No, not your podcast.

I mean, the one that you're promoting for next week. And it's sad. Thank you very much. I do appreciate the time. Thank you for making time. I do got to say this because you for making time. I do gotta say this, because nobody wants to hear a couples podcast. Nobody wants to hear a family podcast,

especially one about having kids, and I just had a kid, and I don't even give a shit. I don't wanna talk about it. Nobody wants to hear this shit, and the line that she said about a podcast, no, what was it? Instagram ReadyFamily means they're already setting up.

They probably own the dot com, the social media handles, and they're going to hashtag their kids name with everything. I know somebody who does this, right? I used to work with a person, not on open anything, but in a company that there was a person there that still does this to this day. All their stuff is about their kids. They use their kids to be the attraction to their account. They hashtag the kids names like they're a big fucking deal. And then sit there and do little quips about what do you think about, you know, uh, benefit

for getting back together and they're talking to their eight year old. You know, like, why? This is child abuse. Take away these kids. You're not fit to be a parent. Why are you doing this shit? Child abuse. It's listener abuse. I don't care about the listeners. There's plenty of stuff to do abuse listeners. This is child abuse. Thank you. Man, we'll compromise on that. Yes. This is something. It's a girl with annoying gay friends that get together and listen to these kind of things. Like where they're going to brunch and they think they're all Instagram influencers and they're all really obnoxious and annoying

and have nothing going on. They're the audience that listens to something like this. I don't even know if they're that put together. I'm assuming that they're actually probably much more lonely than that. Probably, but you're right, brunch sucks. What? It does.

It does. Erock, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's great to get your insights. A guy who knows radio, who knows podcasting, and I always learn something from you. So thank you so much for coming on. What would you like to promote my friend? Well, let me thank you, Carl,

because I've always learned something when listening to this show, my obsession with Patrick Michael and enjoying your ongoing stuttering John commentary. There was also a podcast that I sort of became obsessed with last year because of you, and then I got so burnt out that I had to stop listening to it, because I was hate listening to it, and then I got to the point where it was literally killing me inside. What's that? You did a podcast last year for, what was it about? It was the vocal fries podcast.

Oh yeah, I remember them. So these girls would talk like this all the time. They'd have to do the vocal fry. They did an episode where I think they were talking about how math is racist. And they sent it to Brian Johnson and he goes, why do you do this to me? And I said, I don't, I don't understand what this means. I don't get any of it. I'm excited to do you. Like,

now you don't have to listen to this at all. No, I was sending it to torture them. I made them listen to it. And he hates me for it. But yeah, I learned a bunch of stuff on your show as well. From my show, it's, it's Eric Nagel. You can find it on iHeartRadio, on their digital platform, which is also available on Spotify and anywhere you get your podcasts. And that's the radio show I do for the television show, the video show, whatever you want to call it that I do

with Brian Johnson from Tellum Steve Dave, is on compoundmedia.com. You can go there and subscribe and we do that show every week, just the two of us. It's two old men yelling at clouds. Excellent. Yeah. That's a fun show. And also I hear Eric Zane will be a guest on the Anthony Kumiya show in a few

weeks. Yes. I, uh, listening to Eric on your show, I reached out to him. I thought he would be good on Anthony's thing. I said, all right, let me figure out a date to sign when we can set this up. And then in true radio fashion, Eric just posted up on Twitter. It's like, oh, come on on here. Like, dude, that's a month away.

It doesn't matter. It just doesn't wait. But everything I've seen about this guy, I think he has an interesting story. And I think he'll get along well with Anthony. So we'll see how that goes. Dude, thanks for doing that. I'm really excited. I love Eric.

And I'm glad that he's getting a chance to go on there. He's super stoked about it. As you could tell, yeah, probably posting it all. He's making the big drive out from Michigan. That's right. Yeah, he'll be in studio. So that's very cool. And I think Carla, I think we're going to have to have you because Brian's done your show

a couple of times. I've now done your show a couple of times. I think we're going to have to return the favor and have you come on. Would you kindly sometime? I would do that anytime, my friend. I would love to join you guys. I mean, we're no chip chipper sin, but we'll treat you good. I mean, if there's a chance a Patrick Michael sees it and gets outraged, that I'm happy.

That's all I learned for it. I'll send it to him. I'll send it right to him. Like you need to see this. Put a clip on YouTube for me. All right, you're like, I'll let you go. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks, man.

Thank you, sir. All right. Please join like, I'll let you go. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks, man. Thank you, sir. All right. Please join us again next week. It might be the episode we find out what's for. Who are these podcasts? Sleep well, every pony. Party in the must-vis of Morning Radio. Take out a show, these cold, right now.

Mm. OK. Great show. Good job, everybody. Great job job everyone. What you say he just a friend? What you say he just a friend? Open your eyes, That's what I need. What you say he just a friend?

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Vic, what's happening? Hello, Carl. Happy to hear you losing another woman on the show. Hello. Hello. Vic, I only continue to get stronger as we go on. I'm sorry, but the show is a amazing success

with the likes of Vic the review girl bringing it every so often No, sorry, it's That's good. How have you been, Vic? It was another week. You probably didn't hear the voice bell segment from last week. I did not. Okay, because it's important that you listen to that

because there's a lot of people who are communicating with you. And one of the things that was brought up was that they'd like to have your fiance call into the show. Right. That sounds awful. I know. That's why I thought I'd forget up to you to see what your thoughts were about it.

He's born dry than me, which is saying something. Okay, I like it. But I will ask him to see how he feels about it. Okay. Excellent. And please send me your questions for Mr. Vic so that we could get those answered. Do you have any new reviews that you want to read to us today? I have two for you today. Perfect.

This first one's by Lizzy. She says, this has got to be the worst podcast I've ever heard. These guys are not funny at all. They just shout about how unfunny other podcasts are while offering no redeeming qualities in their own show. Don't waste your time or the time I put writing into this review for you will be in pain. She's not wrong. We do shout about other shows not being funny

without offering anything else. Oh, yeah. Besides that. Now, I think about it. We should be funny. Yeah, maybe we funny without offering anything else. Oh yeah. Besides that. Now I think about it. We should be funny. Yeah, maybe we should rethink this whole thing. All right. Okay.

Yeah, I think that's why everyone bails on your show, Carl. Everyone bails on my show, Vic. What are you talking about? What do you fucking mean? In the past like two, three weeks, you've had two people. Not fucking show up, Carl. Oh, that's what you mean. Okay, well, okay. Well, in my defense, Vinnie's a very unhealthy individual and Julie did have

legitimate issues. I'm going to do a show with Julie this week coming up that's going to be on our Patreon. So that'll be fun. I'm sure that'll happen. I think that was probably a one-star review. I think that was probably a one star review. That was a one star. Okay, what else you got? We have a review by Lou Cubic Zirconia Phillips. Oh, I want to say one thing. Do you get the joke there, Vic? No, I fucking know.

So there's a guy named Lou Diamond Phillips. All right. Okay. Yeah. Really funny, really, really very proud of him. He says, I'll paint you a picture. Carl strikes me as a kind of fellow who wears old school vans, but couples them with those Costco, mid ankle, Adidas socks. Right. This is like the old guy. Yes, it's for sudden that five stars in the basement right now.

That is a five star. That's a five star. Do you just reminded me last time I went out to see my friends band at the Iron Smoke distillery and as I was walking out, I was saying goodbye to a guy. No, he says, bye Carl. And then the guy next to him goes, are you Carl from WATP? And he was a patron supporter. We don't have a lot of local fans.

So it was very exciting. I was with Andy and Jen from the Jinguist Department. Right. So he was more excited to meet Jen. I had no violence. I go, I go, I, I, I go so are you chatting? You almost lost half the show Great a hater that's a good point What would we have done if we just produce her Chris

Every 20 minutes indeed Well, you know what people on Reddit actually really like Chris I quite like Chris as well. I know we good Yes, the less you talk the more people like you have discovered. Well, smart. Coming up. Nothing. Good strategy. All right, let's get some, I just have a few voice sounds here.

Let's get through him real quick. Hey, Carl. I just had an idea. I had a few cups a couple of weeks ago, explicitly stated that he writes every single thing he says down. Anaphyse-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-sety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-safety-saf Oh, I don't do all that because that's what stupid people do. Just another one of those things that you might have not made connections to. Just saying. Patty C. Cups contradicted himself. You don't say.

No. I can't believe it. Tucker Dixon calls back into the show. Hey Carl Tucker Dixon here with your Jacksonville flight updates here. Unfortunately the tickets to Chicago have skyrocketed from 281 all the way up to $315.00. So that right there for a dirt farmer, that's like a year worth of rent. It's so sad. I mean, I might have to spend another 50 bucks on my first class ticket to put my feed-up

and fly there in Casey just can't go because $315. I'm sorry, Casey. Dirt farming is a tough thing. Anyways, tuck her out. I like this guy. Oh no. He's got a prick. Yeah, it's good. The reason why Casey isn't here right now, Vic, you know.

She's not working. I honestly forgot. She's not looking for a new house. That's so exciting. She's house shopping. And I think she might buy a new house. So exciting. She's house shopping. And I think she might buy a house that has the internet. It'll take her while she's to us to see how the grass is at each house. Right.

Yeah, it has to be swamp like in the backyard or else she's not having it. But that's exciting. So we'll see what happens with that. But I have the feeling that Tucker Dixon is trying to get Casey to come to the show. I think he'd like her to go. That's the sense I'm getting. You're not, you're not getting that sense. Fair enough.

All right, let's keep going. Here's an example. I'm not going to play this whole thing. But here's an example of voicemail that I sometimes receive. This is from a 586 number. So just now, if you're calling into my show and you're like, Oh, why doesn't Carl put my voicemails? This is why. I think I'm just thinking of this. I could not possibly find the fucking voicemail. So I'm just leaving it here.

I don't know how many is going to do with climate I know he's got a McBody or whatever company but yeah I don't know or he do that. I like Artyadita as much as the next guy right but I don't understand what the person is saying in any single way. I don't know I think he was mentioning the creep off, which shows the, you know, a statitude of the fans I listened to that show. Wait a second, Vic, are you anti WTP and the creep off? Now is that what's going on? I was always against the creep off. Oh, okay.

Far enough. Vinnie's way too fat to have another voice on a fucking show. I've been telling him that. He won't listen to me. He won't listen to you. Oh, Barack Obama called into the show. Oh, no, no, for real. Barack Obama called into the show.

This is exciting. Hey, Carl, this is Barack Obama. I was just catching up on your show. I don't know if it's my time, because Michelle's always dragging me to dinner and open a win free sounds. I have to say, is it travesty? You would have Vic be the co-host. Don't ever let that come be the co-host again. It is, Barack. He's going to call me back.

the colds again. It is, but I call me back by Sasha Amalia. That's why he was the president. He's making a lot of good points right there. You know, I'm just happy the ex president knows. So I am as a Jewish woman. But he doesn't even like you though. That doesn't matter. Okay. Uh, we did a live stream this past week. If you're a Patreon supporter, when I did the crossover show with Dick Masterson, you can watch it on YouTube. And this is a person who just saw me for the first time. I don't imagine what that's like. Carl, so I'm only ever listen to your show, a W H T P through like an audio podcast and the other day I just randomly stumbled into a discord call that was your live show and I saw your face for the first time and it

was just like whoa that's what that guy sounds like and I kind of refused to believe it still that's some deep bake shit you got going on. I had imagined that you were more bulbous and round. I guess the reality is, is that you look just like, you really do just look like a New Yorker. You just have that New York archetype. I don't know, take that as a compliment or someone that I've never been to New York, you know, but I know a lot of y'all look like that.

So yeah, call me back or not. I don't know. You even call, if you call P.B. will back as they're flirting with the girls, but you know, let's do something, bro. What's going on? If you're trying to fuck Nick, I will call you back. Otherwise, we're done here. I'm in the bulbous. I look like a New Yorker. Yeah. Yeah. Just as disgusting as a city is, girl. So New York has a lot of different types of people. They call it the melting pot. Mm hmm. Anyway, moving on. Hey, Carl man. You know what? Show you got a review? Christian roses. You know, we got to do it with PJ Philium. make it happen. That's a good idea. Can I get PJ out of retirement to review creeps and roses season two, which by the way, features Brian McBride who's great,

but also Casey. Have you heard this show yet? Produced a girl. I have not. Casey's out the show. Oh, no shit. Yeah. Vinnie's favorite.

Yeah. So that would be kind of fun. PJ, if you're listening, buddy, come on every time. Let's do this. That'd be fun. There's a guy who wants in on the death pool. You know, Andy and I have a death pool going. Yeah, I kind of want in too.

You want in too? So I have Alex Jones. I'm picking you. I'm just going to kill you. I got that works. For 50 bucks. Alex Jones I'm picking you I'm just gonna kill you I could really use it All right fair enough I am Alex Jones I think Andy had settling John yeah, I should have written this on shit, dude. I'm so bad with the UI. Yeah, could I get my hat thrown into that debt pool? And my bet is that you, Carl, you're going to be the one that dies first.

Well, the fucker. And if I win, I'll get, you know, the podcast that city band has and Gen from the jingles apartment. Yeah, sounds like a good deal right? Yeah, I Anyways call me back. Go fuck yourself I want to point out that's the second person this week who wanted to claim Gen from the jingles department as a prize for something She works for me sir. She's in the department of the jingles Which I oversee. All right. Not a few dead Carl.

Not a few dead. I guess that's his though. All right. Last voice that I have, this person has a reaction to the latest crossover episode, which by the way, was fantastic. The Maddox book that we're reading, fuck whales, there were some choice chapters that we had this past week. Maddix is out of his mind. Hey Carl, I'm sitting here, listen to the, who are these podcasts and the Dixho crossover episode. And I just, I can't get over the fact that Michael Patrick or Patrick Michael or Shane isrick michael or shamus you know shamus mc satfuck whatever whatever he wants to go by

the fact that he thinks that making fun of people who drink modellos and sneak mexicans and trucks is the funniest fucking thing like this guy has to be the biggest fucking moron i I've ever heard,

but it's funny though, as an avid alcohol abuser, it's fun to sit there and listen to this moron who lives in a fucking trailer park near Gary, who's scared of Gary Indiana, and the fact that he lives off of his fucking wife every day, that's probably the best part is that I can drink in comfortableness and know that I'm not as pathetic as him while I drink on a fucking normal weekday. So fuck that asshole and by the way, IPAs are fucking fantastic. So he can kiss my fucking ass. Fuck that guy, man.

Anyways, Farrell, go ahead and hit me that dope. He drinks on a normal weekday. IPAs. Not an abnormal weekday. Right. Good for him. Oh, no. Fearing Gary and Deanna is a healthy fear, wouldn't you agree?

Everyone tells me that you should fear that fight. It's in footage. Yeah. Apparently it's not a great fight to be. Even Eric Nagel. Yeah, right. Thanks, it's not a great place to be. No. Even Eric Nagel. Yeah. Right. Thanks. That's not a great place to be. He sounds like an honest guy. He's talking about. All right. That's all I have for this week.

Vic, thank you so much for coming on and reading reviews. Anything that you want to plug my friend. Absolutely not. Just don't watch the creep off. It's awful. Oh, it's not so awful. It's not so awful. You don't even watch it. How would you know? Uh, I could feel it. Can it listen to it?

And if it is going to die soon, then you definitely want to tune in for that. While we're doing the show, we're live on YouTube every Monday at noon, by the way. Anyone can tune in and watch the creep off Especially people who don't know what I look like Why do you team every Monday you can check it out fuck? All right, Vic. Thanks so much for coming on of course Carl. All right, you're the best What's with the dancing around the shit? I stink you hate me great. Goodbye Hey, goodbye. a sewer, the action figure, Godfather, the legendary Ron Rudek who did all the classics

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