Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep272 - 9021OMG

Episode Date: August 15, 2021

Jennie Garth (Kelly) and Tori Spelling (Donna) are back... but in podcast form! They came up with this amazing idea to go back to every episode of the show they used to be on and talk about it. How original! Doug from Good Times Great Movies joins us and somehow has a better understanding of 90210 than the actors. Also, Mike Boudet from Sword and Scale joins the show to talk about podcast feuds, trying to ruin people's lives, and Podcast Hitman's relationship status. We also check in on Stuttering John and wrap it up with the Mr. Vic interview you'll be talking to your coworkers about on Monday morning. Check out our newest sponsor: partners.nucalm.com/karl   http://goodtimesgreatmovies.com/  https://www.swordandscale.com/    Support us and get bonus episodes: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Get tickets to our very first live show near Chicago on August 28th http://watplive.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, I know. Oh, what? This is a star-sided episode of where are these five castes just throwing up? Nothing up later. Yeah, so stick around for that. If you're just jealous. Today we'll be reviewing a show called 90210MG. We have both listened to this separately. We have not discussed it with each other beforehand. Let's get into it. This is a

show that's hosted by Jenny Garf Tori Spelling and Sissani. Not who Sissani is. Good. She's the co-host of the Ryan C. Crust Show. So if you did know who that was, what are you doing? Shame on you. You're listening to the Ryan C. Crust Radio Show. What are you doing? I had no idea, because they refer to her as Siss

all the time. I'm like, well, she must be one of their sisters. Yeah, no, I had to do the research on that one, because it's very confusing as to what's going on. So this is a show, another one of these shows, fuck office ladies. It's another one of the shows where they're like, two of the stars of the show will go back

and watch an episode of the time and recount what they remember from that episode. Unfortunately, this show is 30 years old and these women remember nothing. There is nothing about the show that they remember. I'll start us off here where they're talking about season two. So I listen to the episode, I talked about the first episode of season two of 902 1 out. And they're talking about how the intro changed that year. You know, they're it's summer vacation. They're out at the beach and they did a whole new shoot

for it. And let's recount what happened on the photo shoot day. I didn't remember that it went to that. I thought it was going to go to our normal one that season three through 10 had the spinny ones. Yeah, we're all like on a set and we're doing our dance together. And I thought it was going to be that, but then it was like, oh, it's the beach. And I remember that day, was it the photo shoot on the beach with this? Yeah, so which one, with the shirts or the bathing suits? Was that not the same day? It was probably all the same day.

I think it was, but that wouldn't make sense because we did this photo shoot on the beach. It was our first photo shoot all together. And we all had Beverly Hills 90210 T-shirts on in different colors, different primary colors, and like jeans or jean shorts. And I thought that photo shoot was for Teen Magazine, but I could be wrong. Wow, that's super fascinating. Imagine if there was DVD commentary where the director doesn't remember making the movie. You know, even if it's private Ryan.

And I don't even remember shooting this. Was that a two day shoot? I don't know. I don't remember. That's a through line with this show. I listened to four episodes trying to just pull stuff. I couldn't pull any of that. That's why you're in the top 15. I texted you and I said, Carl, I couldn't pull any of that. This is why you're in the top 15. I texted you and I said,

Carl, I can't pull any of that. I'm coming in like, because there's nothing worth pulling. Can I just tell you something? I want to keep it trucking. I want you to get in your thing. So you sent me that note before I listened to the show. So I was kind of a little concerned

is gonna take me a long time. I thought everything was clipable on this show. Really, okay. Oh, I thought everything was absurd. I loved show. Really? Okay. I thought everything was observed. I loved it for how bad it was, but what do you got? That's fine. Listen, and I do want to take a quick step back. I know you have a lot of younger listeners.

So if people don't know what 90210 is, I guess it is a huge. I mean, I can't overstate how huge this show was in the very early 90s. If you don't know what it is, ask your grandparents, they'll tell you. Yeah, they were probably popping off to Dylan. I mean, uh, yeah, guys, but also it like it led to big like one tree hill in the OC. I guess if you don't know what those are, ask your parents, like, I don't know what kids watch nowadays, but

you do, I think, is the answer. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah. But like our long prime time teen dramas, it was huge. And this show, like if you play my clip number two, this is the show to me clip. And this is why I had so much trouble clipping this because it's just dead air. They're not giving each other anything to work with.

They're terrible. I cut dead air out of this, but then left some of it in just to show people how difficult this show is to listen to, play number two. And like say their line. Yeah. Yeah. I got nothing.

Okay. Uh, like, um, uh, but, uh, wait. Okay. I have to say, it's all this is,

every episode, it's just them stammering and stuttering through nothing, not talking really about the episode, right? And not having any recollection of what happened when they filmed this stuff. I have a, I have a similar clip. So they have a couple segments that they do.

And at the end of the show, they do this one. Is there any 902 one? Oh, no, you didn't moments one lineers that stood out. I think like soups, significant. Are there any 902 one? Oh,, no you didn't moments is the question. Now this is an episode that they all just watched. They have to watch the episode and they record the podcast. And you heard the first person stumble on that one.

This is the second answer. And I really have a favorite line. I liked when that said yes, I was about it. Yeah, so there aren't good lines in a stupor made for teenagers. Yeah, no shit. What part of this stood out to you? None. None of it, Ted.

What are you talking about? It's an episode of That Don't Do It Out. What do you mean? I really doubt that they actually even watch these. Like, I really have a feeling that they're just trying to recall this from memory. They don't have time to watch this stuff. You know, they're doing one a week, which one 45 minute show a week. Shouldn't be that difficult.

I have an example of that real quick, dog. Because they're asked questions about what happened the day they shot it. They have no idea. But then they asked questions about something they just watched and they don't know. Yeah, I just got confused. I feel like, what was she? I don't remember now, what was she wearing in that scene?

I don't know. I don't remember. There are three people. Nobody took any notes. Nobody took any notes as to what they watched the night before, probably. I mean, it probably doesn't age well. I haven't watched it out to an no since I was 11 years old. So I can only imagine that it's not a great show to watch when you're in your

40s or 50s. It's probably pretty lame and hard to get through. And my wife would disagree. She still watches it to this. Wow. No, you picked this show. Yes. Well, I picked this show because she listens to this show.

Wow. I picked the show. It was, I don't know, last time I was on. That'd be a very strange. I said, let's do this show. It was relatively new. I listened to it and I was like, this is terrible. Carl, we can't do the show.

We got to switch it. And I assumed that given time, they would be better. Spoiler, they're not. Wait a second. You know what I said, our show format. You know what? Do the show until they got better? Die. Help me out here. It's trolling. It's not the better. It's content. There, I, there was no content.

There was nothing interesting going on. There was nothing like I said, I had a hard time pulling stuff because it really is them just saying nothing for a good hour. I bet you don't have a hard time pulling stuff when you're is them just saying nothing for a good hour. I bet you don't have a hard time pulling stuff when you're watching these episodes of your life. Good points. So can you play, I always like to come to this show with a super cut. This is kind of a lazy super cut because I just remembered to do this and like the last

show I was listening to because I started to realize that Jenny Garth says the same thing again and again and again. Play my number 16. I have a really hard time remembering all that went on. I don't know either. I do not remember. I remember that kind of and I kind of remember something on the table. I don't know.

I don't remember. But that's pretty much all I remember. I don't know. I don't remember. But that's pretty much all I remember. Like I don't know. What about the liquor store? I don't remember the liquor store. Yeah. So you and I picked up on the same bag. Because it's astounding that they would be confident

to do a show when every question they're asked is I don't know. So they lied about rewatching it, but they're honest about not remembering anything. Well, what else did you say? Yeah, I think it. No one else cares. Oh, okay, since you said that producer, Chris, I have to play this series of clips where I am positive a series of clips where I am positive, Jenny Garth is making up a story. Maybe she saw it on a TV show or so popper or something.

And I'll prove to you after I play it that she's making this up. So the question comes in from cis and because this episode, Shannon Dordy, what's her character's name I forget? Anyway, Brenda. Brenda, I know all this stuff. I thank you.

That's why you're here. So Brenda thinks she's pregnant with Dylan's kid. So they go to play in parenthood or whatever. She gets a pregnancy. Whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is the question from sis is, did either of you have a pregnancy scare when you were young, when you were a teenager?

Did you guys ever have a pregnancy scare when you were young when you were a teenager. Did you guys ever have like a pregnancy scare when you were younger? I think I think so. Like, have been late and then taking pregnancy tests, but or I've taken plan B. Yeah, very young age. Did you? Yeah. And I probably learned all that stuff from your show. It's learned what to do. We never had plan B. I don't think I don't think that stuff from your show. Oh, it's learned what to do. We never had plan B, I don't think I don't think that was the worst deal.

Okay, it was little too early. Did you ever have a pregnancy scare? Me. Well, I was thinking about it and like, young. So you heard Tori say, I don't think so, maybe I might have done, I'd take a plan B or something. I don't remember how, maybe I might have done, I'd take a plan B or something, I don't remember how it would have happened, you know, there's people are so uninteresting, they don't remember anything.

And then she turns to Jenny and goes, what about you? She goes me. Like, yes. Oh, look at the person there. Oh, look at the person. I asked it either of you, that was the first time I asked.

And the second time was, staring at you say, what about you? Like me? So I think she felt compelled to cope with the story on the spot and listen to this doozy. I remember, I didn't even know if this is right, but, and I hope my mom is not listening to this, but, um, she doesn't even know if this is right.

Okay, that's your first clue. But I remember going to get put on the pill for my irregular periods or for my skin, you know, the excuses. And I had told my mom that I wasn't sexually active. We went to the, it was like Planned Parenthood or something. And we're sitting there and the person comes back in and they're like

Unfortunately, we can't put you on birth control pills because you're pregnant What what and I was like oh And my mom just looked at me like what and then So then I had to come clean with my mom Similar to what Brenda has to do. And say, okay, I lied. I have had sex with my boyfriend. And then this is the worst part. After this whole admission, the tears, everything, dealing with all that in the office of this place, the tears, everything, dealing with all that in the office of this place. They came back in and said, you know what?

We're so sorry. That wasn't your arm that we tested. It was a mistake. You're not actually pregnant. Oh my gosh. You guys believe in the story that she didn't remember and tell just that? I don't care if this story is real. It's so uninteresting.

It's delivered in the most boring manner. If you're going to make something up, make it up, and make it interesting, that was terrible. I actually met her too, because she stammered a lot more than that. And then she got this reaction. Oh my God! Which is saying I'm the boring.

Was there a show? I hope you showed up. I'm talking. I'm talking. So Tory recognizes, because she's the daughter of Aaron Spelling, that this is like a storyline from a soap opera. This, this is a good storyline. Right.

It's not what happened in your life. Yeah. It's a storyline. And then again, just to prove that she's making that whole thing up, she forgets what she just said a minute later. Oh, that's a 902 1 OMG moment. Totally. Never told me that. That is crazy. All right. So I'm sorry. I set that clip up wrong. So they're best friends.

Well, let's say that a lot. She's right, but she's never told her best friend that story before, right? And then after that, she forgets what she just said. I never had to have a sex conversation with my parents. Ever. Either. I mean, I didn't have one. Your mom. Yeah.

But whoops. W just told her to hurry you were sobbing to your mom about not being a virgin. I've never talked to my parents about sex. Yeah, I mean either. Oh, I mean, I know. I know what the reason why. Again, that whole thing of trying to remember the truth right Yes

But with stuttering John has trouble week to week months a month not 10 minutes later Not in the same conversation Right, although I guess that's possible with sty Jan as well. I'm sure it has happened. Yes. I find it interesting that in the episode you listen to Jenny Garth told a somewhat interesting story. Me too. In my number four, the moderator sis is like reading the playing a game like rumors or is it true or not? Like to get the real hot gas that was going on. So she reads a rumor and listen to Jenny Garth's response. It's my number four.

All right, rumor four. Eonline says that Shannon and Jenny almost got into a physical fight once. True or false? True. You want to elaborate or just leave it up you want me to elaborate I am stupid or something he says cries as a fucking ear about that I'm really interesting and she doesn't want to continue talking about it yes wow that's uh shockingly dumb it's the whole point of starting a conversation.

Is it get more than one word out of somebody? We also talk about the fact that they decided to do this during quarantine. I guess to give themselves something to do, but with these two, it's probably not a good idea to start it then. Like, they would be so much better if they were in a studio and everybody else or somebody else was handling the technical aspect of this. I put together three clips. It's my number one. The first one speaks for itself. The second one, this does not trust them to start moving around their laptops and their microphones. And in the

third one, some man breaks into their podcast. I listened to the whole episode. He's never mentioned. There's no male guest at all. I don't know where this came from. It's my number one. Wait, wait, wait, I love the story. Excuse me, we're filming a podcast. How can I grab it?

Do not just connect anything, Jenny, you're making me worry. I need a I need a I need a I need a Wait, what's your all your ego? Terry. Terry. Hello, is this thing on? This is not like I heart, right? I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to- I need to take a break. Oh, we need to take a break. Oh, dude, we need to take a break.

Well, we need to take a break and we have so much to cover still from Brenda and the pregnancy test. It seems like cis is a pro and new, if she started the sentence over again, they could clean that up and bust. We need to take a break. Oh, sorry, I got it. We need to take a break. It's like, oh, you could pull all of that out very easily.

Couple of concerts. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. Just these lengthy pauses between some dumb story they're telling and not giving, you know, to the other hosts or anything like that. These episodes could be streamlined

and I'm not saying, listenable, but the long, long pauses are really, really difficult to get through. Yeah. listenable, but the long, long pauses are really, really difficult to get through. Yeah, and also the really long conversations at the beginning, they have nothing to do with anything. No. At the 14-minute mark of this episode, CIS has to finally jump in to this lengthy boring conversation and transition to, hey, so we watched this episode. It is Peptobismo. I kept calling it Peptobismo. I just wanted to go to Pismobiche.

Okay, anyway. Speaking of beach, you guys, season two, episode one, beach blanket, brand and air date, July 11th, 1991. Thank you for doing that. You had to do it again later in the on the next step. 9.91. Thank you for doing that. You had to do it again later in the show when they got off

on a tangent. Remember the TVs I had one in my dressing room. Yeah, but you put the thing in. Yeah, VHS. The flop at right in the bottom. Those are the best TVs.

I love that. Mine always get stuck in there and I'd be like, prying in there with a screwdriver trying to get it out. Speaking of technology, though, I think when we see Kelly in her BMW driving Thank you technology. Yeah, you're gonna be a just

They've caught in the TV. Remember when Kelly was in a BMW Nightingown says like ladies I got to get up tomorrow at 430 and be on the radio with Ryan. See what are we doing? That guy that guy does not have even show up late. He'll hit me again. Can I please get out of here? Even if they are on topic and even if they are talking That guy, that guy is not happy to show up late. He'll hit me again. Can I please get out of here? Even if they are on topic, and even if they are talking about the show,

it is wildly uninteresting. Yes. In my number 14, if you're listening to the show as a true fan, you probably really want the nuts and bolts of how this thing was made, behind the scenes magic. And Jenny Garth does a deep dive on a particular set and it's so boring and also listen to her co-host, give her nothing during the story. The exterior of the club scenes did you notice where that was? Now, it was outside of our sound stages on Calvert in Manais.

And they just like they opened up one of those doors and they drove Dylan's car right in there. They drove all the cars inside the warehouse and then we shot inside the warehouse. Where we always, the whole cast parked our cars right there. We had to move them that day, I guess. Oh my God. So they think that everything they do is interesting. Every behind the scenes peak,

it's gotta be amazing for the fans to know about. That's the most interesting thing. Corken, can you believe it? They shot a scene where the cast usually part their cars. And on that day, they had to part them somewhere else. I can't believe it. It changes my whole perspective on this show. Yeah, cause usually when you're filming a TV show,

you wanna make it as difficult as possible. Let's get as far away from here as possible and hit this next shot. No, they're like, let's just do it outside. Can we just go over there and shoot it? All right, yeah, that works. That's fine. Yeah.

Yeah, where's the nearest parking lot? Oh, right out that door. Okay, let's just set up out there. There's a reason why there's so many shows about LA. They're like, I don't wanna go anywhere. Yeah, me neither. Let's just shoot it here. In fact, it's always sunny.

Was originally written about waiters who were trying to become actors in LA. And thankfully, somebody was like, can we put one fucking show in Philadelphia? Like, fine. Right. Final, put it in Philadelphia. I want to talk about how this show starts the intro music

of this show. It's 901, 117. With Jenny Garth and Tori spelling. So what's funny about this is that it's a sideways version of the actual song. It's not even the right notes, but it reminds you of it. This is the actual intro. So I wonder if they even got like the permissions they need is you would think there's more spelling.

We'd be able to get the permissions needed to do this, but I don't know if that's true. Doesn't her dad like own a quarter of Hollywood? Yes, he does. He does. I mean, I know he's dead. So then they get into the episode right to that amazing intro theme and they're trying to convince me that this is going to be exciting. And you can tell they're trying to convince me of this. Welcome to season two, you guys.

We made it. We made it. We made it. It's so exciting. This is I feel like like this is where things are gonna get exciting. I got that feeling too. You know, two. Oh, three of them have a feeling. Things are finally gonna get exciting on this podcast.

Does it sound like someone is off to the side with a gun to their heads? This is, this is like the tonight show equivalent of, we got a great show for you. Stuttering John is here, so stick around. It's gonna be great. Now, not buying it. So can you play, sis makes a joke.

Okay. Tori Spelling's telling a story about how she and Brian Austin agree with the youngest ones, and they were sort of dating, but they had to get tutored. So she and Jaxa joke, which is not funny. It's a stupid double entendre joke. It's not good. And Tori Spelling doesn't get the joke, but the best is at the end, Jenny Garth Chinerson, and also doesn't get the joke. It's number 15. That's always fun. Okay. But I came on set and Brian and I both had to go to school. So we had to, oh, is that why you call it? Call it what? Oh God.

So dumb. And it was so slow too. Is that what you call it? Like was a three beats after she got done sang, we had to go to school. Yeah. Their brains aren't working the way they should. No, no, I'll tell you why. And I've had this complaint before with these types of podcasts. These are actors. Actors are interesting people. They read words and

other people write for them and they try to read them convincingly. You ever seen Robert De Niro interviewed? It's on watch. Oh, it's terrible. What's your best actors ever? He's unwatchable. And these assholes sit down. They're like, Oh, we have interesting personalities. So what do I say? They this is not you. Yeah, fuck You talk about this many times how celebrities are not interesting people athletes are not interesting people Or you get them you know without a script now. I do it to say their ad reads are pretty good I really didn't have any issue with ad reads because they're reading someone else's words. It was fine But I found this interesting. I don't know if this ad popped up for you

But if you play number 12 it's a 22nd clip Okay. Aber ich habe das richtig gemacht. Ich weiß nicht, dass das App aufgeladen ist. Aber wenn du auf die Nr. 12 bist, ist es eine 20-second-Clip. Du bist nicht in der Play, alle 20-Seconds. Aber ich habe nicht die Frage, was mit meinem Player passiert. Ich habe so groß, da kann das unten im Müsste nicht täglich frisch sein. Ja, ich war nicht mit dem Tag. Was ist passiert? Du bist so alt oder was? Yeah, I wasn't targeting with this one. That dog. Yeah, what's happening right now? I can sell the whole thing. I don't know.

I don't know what was happening right before that. I heard Wilder Valderama and he was speaking Spanish half the time through his ad too. I didn't know it was going on. Maybe your credit score isn't very good. Maybe that's why you're getting certain that ad. There's a good chance. All right.

Here's a fun ad read for Better Help. You know, I love Better Help ads. Oh, of course. See if you can point fun ad read for better help. You know, I love better help ads. Oh, of course, see if you can point out what's stupid about this. Visit betterhelp.com. That's better H E L P.com slash 90210. Why did you have to spell the word help better help.com. And then she spells H L P. That's it pretty easy word to spell, right? You know that's just to re-spelling again with a gunder head on camera holding up the word help. Yeah, you have some of her help, right?

That's you better help me right now. Yeah, that's exactly. All right, let's get back to them not remembering anything. Oh, good. And this is a question about a spicy rumor that was going around. Well, it means it's a rumor. Maybe you guys can confirm it. The point where they force the writers to have some sort of consequence.

And so that's why she gets scared and it's scary for her. And then she breaks up with Dylan. Do you guys know any, there's any truth to that? Remember is really controversial. But I mean, here's the deal. Foxes, the network, they approve the storylines. There's no storyline that's made unless they approve it. Unless... So she's thinking about it. Wow. She's like, wait a second. Well, there is a possibility.

Some one insisted on that storyline Someone who we shall not name Like a cast like no like cast my dad like oh like your dad got Aaron Spellings the only one to go Fox how do I do that? How do I know that? It's just doesn't know that, I wanna read to you real quick, one of the description lines of this podcast.

It says, discover all the behind the scenes, juicy details you've dreamed about for 30 years. Mm-hmm, so they ask one question that's like, I heard a rumor that the reason why your character was a virgin for so long, and they're like, I don't know. I don't know what I know that. Well, because it involves you, your dad, the show.

I thought, maybe. Okay, well, thanks for playing. You know, they're just like, I'm just memorizing my lines from this episode. I don't give a shit as to what is happening with any other character who's not on screen with me. That's it. They're all just trying to fuck each other behind the scenes.

That's all they're doing. These are kids who are Uber celebrities and are hot. Yes. They're all just fucking each other. That's all the shows should be. I didn't watch the episode. Who did you fuck that week? Right.

Ten seasons of that. I get it. That I might listen to. Yes. Yeah, that's the thing. They don't really, they don't really get into that a lot. I've actually found this somewhat interesting. Okay.

The reading question from a listener who's talking about producer credits. Because if you, you know, suddenly by like season five of Dawson's Creek, like James Vanderbeek's a producer, and I always wondered like, what does that mean? What do they do? And Jenny Garth is pretty honest and I kind of love it It's number three. Okay. This is from Olga. Many of the episodes of the later season say produced by Jason priestly Jenny Garth or Luke Perry in the titles What exactly were your responsibilities as a producer?

That is a good question. Yeah. Well, you had to really work just nail down on those skills. I don't think we'd had to do anything though as producers. What? Honestly, those were what they call vanity credits. That story checks out. I absolutely love the fact that it's just meaningless bullshit that they put on their phony Hollywood resumes. That's so great. I also think it's funny. Tori was talking about her very first sex scene, and she said it was directed by Jason Prisley, that scene. I'm like, there's other directors.

You know there's a guy standing there going like, what the fuck, you're wetting this guy fucking direct this? You're probably here to be the director of this. Why is he doing it? They're like, just let him have it. He's pretending to direct it. We got this. Yeah. He really it? They're like just let him have it. He's pretending to direct it. We got this. He really, we just want to create action and caught it. He's really

cute. He thinks he's doing something. He puts on his ass got for that. And it's totally fine then. He sits in the chair. It's a whole thing. You know, he just, he needs this. He needs to support the do you right now? Can we talk? I actually, after this clip, I want to talk directly to Jenny Carth, because I'm sure she's listening. She has an advice for younger people that are listening. It's number 11. Please, please, children that are listening don't do as we did, do as we say. So, Jenny Carth, I'm talking directly to you now. You're doing a show with your friend, both of you are pushing 50.

And you're talking about an episode of a show that aired over 30 years ago. You have to trust that no children are listening like unless they're trapped in the SUV and their mother's driving them to a hockey practice. But they're just watching TikTok, so don't worry about it. They got the earbuds in, there's no way they're hearing this.

Yeah, how does she not know her demo? Does she still think that she's got the high school I'll talk you about what she's up to? I know. There's a clip I have. It's just number 13. It's very quick, but even Tori spelling at the end of the, I don't know, just play 13, and I'll talk about it.

Yeah, Donna goes on to get drunk at prom. Sorry, spoiler alert. Oh, she thinks she's spoiling this for like somebody's watching this thing in real time. That's the thing that I always wonder. Like am I supposed to watch the episode and then listen to them talk about it? Because I feel like if anything, it'd

just be more entertaining to watch the show myself. And it's funny that she kind of gives something away and then catches herself when they're talking about season two started in July. And I guess the first season didn't do very well. So they made a decision, Aaron Spellington. Hey, what's one of the second season in July? There's no competition. We're up against reruns and we can build an audience that way.

Isn't that crazy that that's not how life is now? There's content, fresh content, streaming, and on the time. 24, seven. All year round. Yeah. There was nothing. It was called hiatus and there was nothing on reruns. Oh, no one wanted to see that.

Yeah. No one wants to see reruns, but they do want to hear someone talk about a rerun from 30 years ago. That's what they're looking for right now. Oops. You know what, what's the C35? Oh, speaking of gas that they make and then catch themselves as they're saying it.

So, Tori had a dream. They were filming 90210 present day and listen to Jenny's reaction to this. So I had a dream we were on the set back on the original set in our hallway in our dressing rooms and we were filming but we were present day and interaction. The sad thing is I don't know she looked Perry present day then Tory spelling. I don't know if you look Perry present day then Tory spelling Press the people that don't know he's been dead for a little while A couple years couple years. That's the joke. Thanks again

Listen, I don't know if anybody understands what this show is or I'm assuming I was talking about right now. I have no idea. You're making it's a point. Like I said, they decide to do this during quarantine. They are best friends. I pulled these two clips, or sorry, these three clips from two episodes. I want you to tell me if you think they're going to make it all the way through this entire series, it's number 17. Okay, I've heard you talk enough for one episode. Here we go again, you guys. Here's my best friend has no idea where I went to school.

Oh, I watched the show back. And are you going to talk or am I going to talk? What do you think? Oh, it's good content just on the side of everybody. I remember that you guys almost got into a fight while actually recording the last podcast that you I remember. Did you ask Tori's bond to step outside after you record? I don't remember. I looked into this. They are 36 episodes into this series. Would you like to guess how many episodes are in this show of 90210? Yes.

Oh gosh, there's probably over 100. They're 293 episodes. Oh my God. They're gonna have to do this for more than five more years. There is no way they're gonna make it better. Hell better be paying them some some serious cash. If they're gonna make it that far. How is this shot? Are you sure the show at over 200 episodes? There's like five seasons. Yeah. No, it had 10 seasons. Oh my god. They went off for 10 years too. Oh my god. That can't be true. Yeah. And they are. Wait a second. Did we follow Jason Presley as he got his first job out of college?

Like, how long have these fucking people in school for? He left the show. He left the show. All right. Most of them left the show. I think these two and maybe Brian Austin Green were the only people to remain on for all 10 years. I forgot Kelly Kapal Kapowski joined the show. And the later version. How could you forget that? Well, you're right, because it made it interesting again.

It's right back. Exactly. So this is them talking about why their best friends and proven it's their best friends. So apparently, Jenny Garth got her first, remember this is going back a few months. Jenny Garth got her first shot of the COVID vaccine that the day before they're recording,

and what an amazing feat that is, that should be able to still record a podcast. And I just wanna tell everyone that is listening what a great best friend she is. She had a miserable night, she had horrible reactions, and then she said, nope, I'm gonna get this podcast on this morning because right after this podcast, I'm going to get this podcast on this morning because right after this podcast, I'm going to get my second shot and she wanted me to get it.

Oh, that's going to make me cry. I love you. I love you. Okay, so that's nothing to do with anything. The point of that was we're going to record the podcast even though I'm not feeling well because you have to get your second shot later today. Well, she could still have gotten her second shot later that day.

It has nothing to do with when you record the podcast. Not at all. I'm not sure. And even if you're not feeling well, I would not notice if you're bringing 80% less energy to this show. Oh, no, I'm, I have a feeling that she's not feeling well every episode.

It sounds like to me. So again, talking about how they're like best friends. They talk about how they oftentimes when they go out together, we'll call each other ahead of time to match up on their outfits. But dog believe it or not, even when they don't, they still are coordinate. The funny thing is that even when, I mean, we do discuss things typically like, Oh, what are you going to wear? So we compliment each other. But a lot of times, we'll show up for, you know, just like dinner or drinks or meetings.

And our colors go together, like magically. It's like the weirdest thing. And people like, did you, you guys match? Did you plan that? And we did. It's boring. You're boring, everybody. We're boring, everyone.

So that conversation turned into some super hot turtle neck talk. And I never know how to do my hair when I wear a turtle neck. It's like, do I put it up? I put it aside. Just cover so much. That's fascinating. Please go on. We remember one of these girls used to be a hot chick.

So it's hard for her to process when she's being boring, because people are still smiling and giggling along. Oh, right. I mean, plus she's just staring at her friend over Zoom. Right. Right. I mean, it's funny that at least they had the wear with all to get Siss on here to it every now and again be like,

OK, can we talk about something that someone might want to hear? Carl, you know that it went the other way, right? This was looking for extra money. She got these two ding-dongs to come on because she couldn't do this on her own. You think maybe Ryan C. Crosstmaster minded us? He's just sitting there. Yeah.

He's just laughing all the way to the bank that guy. He's like, you guys should do a show and use my co-host because I can't be bothered. He's like, what guys should do a show and use my co-host because I can't be bothered. He's like, he co-hosts. He co-hosts. I will only take 57% of what you guys think. Right. So, Carl. Yeah.

Did you listen to the most recent episode called Euphoria? I sure didn't. Okay, great. So, if I said to you, what does Gen Pop stand for? Would you have any idea? Jen Pop, I don't. I don't know. Okay.

All right, it sounds like a boy band, but. General population, I guess, would be my guess. You know what, you're so close. I'm glad. Because sometimes the stupidity of the show is really jarring. Like in this clip, Tori doesn't know something that Jenny does, but then in explaining it, you realize that Jenny doesn't know either. Point number eight.

Oh, that's very what it's Jen pop mean. I'm so. I'm so. I'm. I'm. I'm. She was so close. So I mean, two thirds of those letters aren't correct.

General public. Oh, man. And in this episode, they talk so much about it's an episode where they go to a club and they do euphoria, which is, you know, code for ecstasy. And they talk about concerts and stuff like that. And you realize what entitled horrible human beings, these are because they don't like concerts. They never did unless they can sit in a VIP area or a box or something like that. Now in this next clip, they don't like to go in the Gen Pop because of all of us subhumans that might be in there. But Jenny kind of totally gets this term right.

But at the end, her up-speak question makes her feel like she's not quite sure. It's number nine. Oh, is that where they do the things where they yeah, we're all where you see all the nasty plunge. What is it? Are you doing that's like sorry? It's called it's called crown surfing I think. You don't think they go to a lot of mighty, mighty boss tones concerts these two? No, not at all. They, they hate, they hate people. They can't be bothered with regular people.

It really is this weird Hollywood elitist talk at some point and I'm like, that's not who you're talking to. That's not who's listening to this show. Well, it's the only thing they know. It's the only thing they know. The only thing they know. Because even Tori's gynecologist is a fan of hers.

This story is bonkers. Right after Cicin Jenny both say they would never go to a male gynecologist. Tori says this. First of all, I had never been to a male gynecologist, so I was freaking out. He's the same age, nice looking guy. My legs are in stirrups and he starts asking me Donna questions. Oh, yeah, he did.

And he knows everything. He would say like, so do you remember? Like he would ask me questions and quiz me and I'd be in the stirrups just like, in trying to hold the stomach and your lady parts so they seemed small because you don't know what to do. Is there some man's looking down there?

No, no. What? stomach and your lady parts so they like seem small because you don't know what to do. Is the man's looking down there? No. What? He was giving her trivia questions, which I'm sure she lost in all of them because she doesn't remember. Well, I was done a virgin so long. I don't know. Does Donna remember this? And I don't know why she's so concerned. I mean, clearly, he knows that much about

9 to 2. I know he's either me or a gay man. That's a good point. All right. So I like that they just start like calling out other cast members on the show for no reason. They just start talking shit. And the one and only time we've ever seen Jason without a shirt on. Is that right? And now we know why. He was very pale. He was very cool. He had like no muscles.

Jesus Christ. They're calling out their buddy Jason Presley. And then later in the show, that's why he left the show. They hear the show. They decide to call out James, that's why you left the show. They're in the show. They decide to call out James, what's his name? James at-house, who played the father. Yeah, Jim Walsh.

It was very hairy. I love the other. So I just got to go back for a second the other day during our meet and greets for our live rap party. We talked to someone that said that they used to have the hots for Jim Walsh. Hmm. Who? Remember? Who was it? Was it Maddie or was it that other guy that was like, oh, the best part was that it was a guy. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God. That was like the start of the whole bear movement. Apparently he was the old.

She bear. Yeah. Who knew the gym wall. She had such a huge gay following. Wow. I love it. So much. We got to tell James that house. Yeah. We got to tell him. Did you know what? There was someone who thought you were attractive on the show.

That crazy. Can you please. Thanks, asshole. That was crazy. There is obviously there is an episode. Thanks, asshole. That was crazy. There is honestly, there is an episode, again, I know way too much about this show. There's an episode where he's playing basketball

and for some reason, they make him take off his shirt. He looks like a werewolf mid transition. It's wild. He's like Michael J. Foxx in an 80s movie. Right, but yeah, this guy doing it. But I love it. There's surprise, someone liked that character. I'd be more surprised if someone was into Tori Spelling's character on that show.

She had no business being cast on that show. A bunch of pretty people. But the ugliest guy in this show married the hottest chick ever in real life. That's how pretty everybody was on this show. I mean, who's the ugliest guy on the show? Brian Austin Green, he was the dork. He was the dork hip-hop kid. Oh, I thought the, I thought the ugly guy was what's his face? Sharknado Ian Zering. Yeah, I mean, I believe it's I'm just saying come on dude. I am zero. Whatever.

What else do I have? I think I just have one or two more clips here. I got a few more if I can I choke and let me pop in with this one. This is them talking about. So there was a regular cast member in the first season. And in the second season, everybody goes on vacation to the beach and he has to go back to his own planet. And they wonder if it sucks to lose your job.

And Douglas Emerson, who plays Scott, who was a series regular in season one, we find out is a guest star now, season two. So that relationship we can tell is heading in a different direction. And he says he's going away for the summer, so he's not gonna be part of the gang. I was sad.

How is that as an actor to be? I mean, I don't want to say demoted, but yeah, it is. It is. I'm sure you haven't experienced it, but do you think he was bummed about it? Of course. I'm sure he was. Yeah. Yeah. You think he was bummed about it?

Go ask Brian Ducam and he's edging your wand right now. Come up there and see if he's bottomed about losing its gig. As I profile it, it sucks. They killed this character off in the show. And it was such like it was like, Hey, look at all my dad's guns. And he starts twirling a gun and blows his brains out. It's so realistic. It's so ridiculous that they did that poor kid.

I listened to an episode, it was a Halloween episode and I just thought it'd be fun. I was wrong. But they're talking about egging or tee peeing people's houses and whether they did that or kids or had it done to them. And Tori Spelling tells a story that I thought was absolutely hilarious. And I remember going down the street and I got egged and kids were like laughing at me and pointing at me and then I was like, can I go home now?

Now let me go home. That's so mean. Like you were directly egged? Like, yeah. You're human body? Yes. She never mask that all the way to eat her. I just love the idea that time I'm egg like, yeah, you're human body. Yes. She never mask that all the way to eat her. I just love the idea that time when

I'm at Egging House isn't she's like, I have a story that is wildly embarrassing. Kids threw eggs at my person. You're gonna make me feel bad for Tory spelling. Please stop it right now. I can't help that, my life. There's little rich kids. They deserve that. Right? I know.

So I'm trying to say not to be outdone. This is a long clip. I had to cut it together, cut out all the pauses and nonsense. Jenny Garth has an egging story and I'm very confused about this and can only assume that she is a horrible, horrible neighbor. It's clip six. Apparently the neighbor that lived just below us on the hillside didn't like my dog's barking and a professional lady walks over and aged my front entry the gate, she's actually spray painted it too

with black spray paint and also on the like little call box. I read around the video footage and saw that it was my neighbor. And you can see her clear as day. You can see her when she's spray painting and then she goes, shh, right at the camera and the camera goes black. How horrible a neighbor to be like, how bad your dogs have to be for your neighbor

to come to your gated home and spray painted. Oh yeah, you have to be inseparable. You have to be like Rand Paul level horrible neighbor. Nurt again. That's the type of treatment. I couldn't even believe she would tell that story. It makes her seem horrible. Why don't you think she realizes that?

That's what's great about Donbys. It's funny. They don't even realize that. Oh, my last clip that I want you to, but I have some others, but they're garbage. Um, I really thought like through these episodes, I was like, okay, Tori Spelling's kind of stupid, but Jenny Gort seems really dumb.

And as I was listening, went back to the very first episode, all was revealed, play 18. I didn't go to school. Did you know that? I'm street smart, not books. Like at all. Wait, did you really not go to school? Well you know that? I'm street smart, not books like at all. Wait, did you really not go to school? Well, I went to my sophomore year and I didn't like it, so I stopped going. Wow. If you are hot enough to stop going to school.

That is hot girl privilege right there. Exactly. Holy shit. And also, once again, remember, they're best friends. I didn't even go to school. Wait, really? I didn't friends. I didn't even go to school wait really I Good There's an episode where Toriespelling asked Jenny Garth what her middle like if she knows her middle name and Jenny Garth's like Nope, no idea. I have no idea and she's like I tell you all the time and you cannot remember this It's it's crazy that these two are so stupid and I don't know, probably just pretend to be best friends. I'm not sure.

Cuz think about that dog. These two met when they were high school age. They were teenagers on the set of the TV show where they met and Torrey didn't know that Jenny didn't go to high school. That's kind of shocking. I think it's. All right, we're together for 10 years. They have no idea what the other person is like, what their interests are, anything about them. I want to wrap up this segment with this clip, which is a teaser clip for episode two of season two.

You'll be shocked. Well, that's it for this episode. You guys next week is season two. You'll be shocked. Well, that's it for this episode. You guys next week is season two, episode two, the party fish. And I'm really looking forward to it. The party fish. I don't remember that one. This is going to be fun to watch,

because I have no memory of that one. Is it like a Swedish fish or what's happening? What's happening? Wow, remember that episode? I can't believe it. It should be a lot of fun. And you know everyone listening to this, except for you, knows what that episode is. So it's like a weird reversal.

Like everyone listening, you're not teaching anyone who's listening anything new. It's like they're realizing that you're just learning this stuff for the first time. Maybe that's the joy of listening to it. Well, like you said, everyone knows, so just fake it. If someone asked me that episode he did three weeks ago, WTP, where you said this, that was great. Like, yeah, I know, that's great.

I don't fucking remember that at all, but I'm just gonna pretend I didn't. Yeah, you don't have to put out how stupid you are. I'm just saying the name of the episode, we'll see you next week. Wait until you get trapped and then, you know, you're found out. And then edit the name of the episode we'll see next week. Wait until you get trapped and then you know you're found out. And then edit it out of the show. Yeah the lack of editing on this is surprising me. And actually the episode that I listen to the sound quality was good.

So they obviously figured out that part of it because they're still doing it over zoom. But they got the quality down. But they're not editing. It doesn't make any sense to me. Nope, not at all. Terrible show. Love it. You love it. Of course you do. By the way, Doug, I should tell you today's show is brought to you by Newcom. Newcom is the world's first and only patented technology, clinically proven to lower stress and improved sleep, quality without drugs,

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Oh, there we go. Sound like a professional, like a pro. Nice. Well, I happen to be. Yeah, so if you don't know, Mike Bude is the host of Sword and Scale, which is really a top notch true crime podcast. If you're into true crime, then I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

If you're not, it's worth checking out. I'm not a big true crime fan, but I was listening to his show yesterday and it's one of the best produced podcasts. I've heard them not saying that just because it came on my show. In fact, the reason why it came on my show is because I saw a little thing, a rubbed on Twitter.

Now, people or fans of WTP know that I had a little issue with host of the vanished Marissa Jones. Marissa didn't enjoy that we goofed on her podcast. And so she decided after trying to get my show taken off of Apple and then trying to get my try to get lips in to take my show taken off of Apple and then trying to get my, try to get lips in to take my show off of their streaming service. She's like, okay, well what I'll do is I'll get every single person on Twitter and every single person on Facebook and a few people on LinkedIn to go after this guy's employer because that's how you ruin people's lives in this era of the internet.

You find out who they are in real life, and then you try to get them unemployed so they lose their house and their family and are dust to do, which is neat. You know, it's a fun way to be upset about so I want to have a joke on their show. It's effective sometimes. It can be very effective.

They got us, you know, I was self-employed. But anyway, so this is long gone in the past. I'm over it. It's fine. We don't really talk about it anymore. But for some reason, I saw on Twitter it was popping up that someone was saying that Mike, who I respect a lot, I heard him on the DIC show.

I like him. He does stir a lot of shit up on line, I don't think it's great. I heard that Mike was kind of on Marissa's side in getting my life ruined, and I just reached out to him and I was like, whoa, what the fuck is that true? And Mike being a great guy goes, all right, let's take this offline. And if we can talk about it, it's a good point. We'd have to go back and forth on Twitter. So we immediately started texting and having phone calls.

And I wanted to give you a chance to come on and just tell us the story Mike Well, thank you for that and I probably start off by saying I do apologize for any any pain I caused you During that time I wasn't a hundred percent in the right so it's well No, you know You're absolutely right words are violence and you don't deserve to eat No, you know, you're absolutely right words are violence and you don't deserve to eat A joke about a girl who had autism. I should deserve to die. That's for sure pretty much But yeah, no, I look the podcast community

In the true crime space is is dominated by women. It's a 75 85% audience is women. And a lot of the sort of bigger podcast, podcasters these days are women. There's a lot of catiness, a lot of backstabbing, a lot of shittiness. I've only ever had one or two people that I was close to in that community and just so happened the B. Marissa was one of them and and that was just because it's really weird when you come from a background of working in an office cubicle for the last 20 years prior and all of a sudden you sort of like straight gold in the podcast space people like what you're doing and it becomes your job. And now you're getting all this weird attention overnight from all these different people.

You get treated like a celebrity. It's a very strange thing to go through. And so when you have somebody that's going to have come up. I'm sorry, keep going. I mean, you know, you know how this is. Yeah, I mean, we've been there, done that. That, dog knows. You know, it's a weird thing to go through

and when you have somebody, when you know somebody that's going through the same thing, it's kind of easier to talk to them about it and kind of like go through stuff that's going on in real time. So we're kind of friends back then. And she got so bent out of shape when that episode came out that you did about her show. I mean, when I say bent out of shape, like she was losing it. Yeah.

And can I just say just for reference points here, this was episode 88 is long before anyone knew about our show. In fact, her freaking out about it was one of the first ways that people found us and mass. We didn't have an audience. And I even explained that to her because she was going after me pretty hard and you know Mike shared some things with me. She was she got an attorney right away. I was gonna sue me and all this stuff and and I was explaining to her like well you

don't draw so much attention to it. That's the stri-zand effect. You're gonna let everyone know about who are these podcasts and no one would even know about it. If you just shut up. Absolutely. Like that that's how how about people not figured this out by now? Right. But yeah, so I mean look, I was doing something that in retrospect I shouldn't have done. I was sort of like being the white knight defending my friend. And when it came down to it and people were coming after me, she didn't stand up and defend me. She just kind of like distanced herself.

That's like how you walked. Yeah. You know, people are shit. That's sort of our tagline here on Soren's Scale. And you know, I've learned that the hard way over and over from befriending people that turn out to be, the show their true color is eventually and that's what's happening. Now she's, by the way, now that what you saw on Twitter was just a small part of it.

She's going around telling people that I have sent her and other podcast hosts, Nudes from fans, which I don't know what the, I don't really know what the fuck she's talking about, but she's, she's like threatening like to, I don't know, report me or something to, to, to, to the authorities, some sort of like she to the authorities, some sort of like, she, she, getting me on some sort of like revenge porn charge and stuff like that. And that's just one of the examples of one of these fucking crazy nuts that are in the podcast space that just make up shit when they, when they don't have anything on you and they want to get you back for whatever they deem was a something you did to them. They go after you. I think Deanna is another example that we talked about.

Well, and that's why I appreciate you coming on because I know this ain't your first rodeo, but you are a target. Like you are serious. Eight years of this. I've been dealing with it. It's unbelievable. And I think Mike would tell you he doesn't have a perfectly squeaky track record. But, but at the same time it's like guys enough like what are we what are we doing here? Why why do we need to have this mob justice and? And get your pitchforks out for every little thing that you read online You're like oh well then this person needs to be canceled out of life like I calm down all right I'd love to know if these people had people looking into everything they've ever done I love to know if these people had people looking into everything they've ever done

That anyone could like pull up and then be scrutinized under a microscope like I want to just mind your fucking business Maybe that's a better strategy on this one. I know some of these I think some of it might be that some of these people are so So fucking boring in real life that they maybe they are squeaky clean Maybe they've they've always watched every single word they've ever said, and they've always, you know, just, just, just about every step they take, every little action, and they, they're just that fucking boring, and they, they are envious of anyone that steps outside of that circle of, uh, propriety. That's true. You know? These people who are really into true crime, like fanatical about it, are the most boring people you could possibly talk to.

And you brought up Diana Marie from Twisted Filly who, not long after this Marissa incident, I had her on my show because I said, okay, we're gonna do Twisted Filly. People are telling me we should do Twisted Filly. And then she reached out to me and, like, was very upset That we were gonna review or show so I said all right. I'm not trying to fucking piss people off

I just do a roast style show So why don't you come on the show? We'll talk about it and I had a conversation with her where She was a little bit off for rocker. She seemed to think very highly of herself And I was like all right, I mean if you say so I guess you're the best. I didn't like you upfront Was because it was because you did have her you say so, I guess you're the boss. The other person I didn't like you up front was because, it was because you did have her on the show. Like, I think you were good. You made it clear, you were gonna roast her show.

And then you had her on and it seems very friendly. And she was coming after me pretty hard at the time. So I was like, oh, I don't like this guy even more now. And I don't blame you. I got some shit for that. But honestly, my goal is not to debate people. I'm not looking to come on here and be like, well, no, you're the asshole. Like, I just listen to your show. I make fun of it. And then people will make fun of me back.

And then I play that because I'm like, great. All right. Now we got a rose guy. This is what I want. I want the lulls is what I'm my goal is not to get people fired and call them out and make people feel shitty. It's just, it's a joke, shall. Yeah, and there's that line, you know, people could say things about you that hurt your feelings and their mean and they could laugh at your work. Look for it! But it's, when you take that, that extra step of, let's find out where this person works

so we can ruin their life. Yeah, that's a level of fucked up that I think everyone can. I saw a note from Marissa where she told you, she's gonna have me serve, she has my work address and she's gonna have her attorney serve me because you want me to shit my pants. Well, didn't she dox you? Didn't she dox your employer or something like that?

She sure did. She sure did, which is why there were tens of thousands of tweets and LinkedIn messages and Facebook messages all going to the company and my business partner and everything else. Yeah. That's, you know, even there are people that have done really, really shitty things to me. And even that level of, I would never take that step, that's a level that you don't go to.

Speaking of people who've been shitty to you, there's this show called The First Degree. Now, in the world of true crime podcasting, there's a lot of cadetness going on, a lot of cadetness. It's weird how you guys don't seem to get along with each other. Everyone's in it for themselves, it feels like. And I think the reason why, and correct me if I'm wrong,

there's always so many stories to go around. And you're all trying to scoop the same stories. So there's like competition because of that. It's not the stories. There is a level of competition, but there's also this weird click kind of thing where A lot of these people pretend to be friendly with each other. They'll go to conventions and hang out and smile and They'll they'll pick out somebody they don't like like myself. I'm one of the ones. That's an easy target and they'll just talk shit about me

Marissa though like for example Marissa When we were friends back I don know, four or five years ago, she would text me constantly about other podcasters and not nice things. So 15 to 20 other true crime podcasts, people that she's very friendly with in real life and puts on a nice happy face. But behind the scenes, she's talking shit about you constantly. And it is just to you two, just to other people. Yeah, when somebody's like that, you know they're talking about you two, obviously. When I talk to people, I do it into this microphone and then I upload it the next day on the

Internet. Yeah, at least you know, make some ad revenue off of it. So this was funny. So the first degree, and this is an episode going back to December of 2020, called Fastivus because I fucking hate anyone who talks about Fastivus, but that's a whole other rant for another day. Won't get into that right now. When I heard them talk about you, I felt like we were kindred spirits.

But he like loves to stir shit up. He's like on purpose mean. He's like podcast troll. I was like, oh my gosh, that could be my bio. I need to learn more about this guy. So this woman tells this amazing Mike Bude story. See if you can stay awake through this one. She thinks it's riveting.

Should I share my Mike Bude story? Share your Mike Bude story. So I, before we had our own podcast, I've always, you know, produced your friend. Oh my God, this story. This is a good story. There's a good story. So I emailed them a story idea,

because you could do a submission, and it was before I thought he was a dick, and it was before we had our own podcast, and I was like, hey, Mike, good day. Do this case. I produced an episode of Snap'd about it, and I sent a bunch of links, and I gave all this info.

Never heard anything. Then they were like, drum roll, our 100th episode is Donna Screvo and Ramsey Screvo and I was like that's what I sent him and he didn't even. Isn't that what she wanted? What's for you to do the sound? I'm gonna respond and he made it a two part his 100th episode. Then when he was getting a ton of shit for he posted something on Instagram that was like don't email us story ideas.

We don't care, it's our job, something like that. And I responded on the Instagram, I was like, oh, okay, because I sent you your hundredth episode idea. So maybe you do want people to email you. And he responded, who the fuck are you? Good response, fiasco, babe. If someone is gonna come at me like that, like, all caddy, like, Hey, I gave you the idea. And I guess you do want responses. Like, fuck you. Like, you know, that's

what the only answer you get. What a weird thing to say. I volunteered an idea for him. He used it. What an asshole. How do you say those three things? It a role like that. And then after that, she explains that she just wanted a response from you. Really, you don't want people to email you

because you stole my, like, it didn't steal it because I offered it up. Right. But like, a little response would have been appreciated. And then to be rude, like not only did he say like, oh, sorry. Thank you for your 100th episode contribution. You deleted my comment.

So we talked about this a little bit. Apparently just because you do an episode on a story doesn't mean that you got it from someone specifically, right? Look, I sent you a text just now. If you can pull it up. Sure. It's a screenshot of my home screen on my phone. If you could look at the emails, the number of emails on the bottom left. 71,643. I would imagine those are unread emails.

Unread emails, yeah, that's correct. So I, this person who thinks that I'm going through and I saw her email and I thought it was such a great idea that I waited two years and 60 something episodes to actually use the idea on the 99th episode and Then didn't give her credit and then what she tried to call me out on social media I Was just mean about it and didn't want anybody to know that she contributed the episode idea You know, so this is the thing that I was surprised by when I was looking at this this morning prepping for the show The first degree is on podcast one.

I think it's a popular show. Am I right about that? Podcast one has a lot of shows from people in Hollywood. I mean, podcast one is Adam Crowley's company. Yeah. And they do a lot of, I mean, it's not his company, but you know, he's on it. Yeah, they do a lot of shows with celebrities and pseudo celebrities and people in Hollywood They think people will want to listen to I think this shit one of these chicks is like a producer for some true crime TV show at one point And then they did a podcast. All right, so translation. No one's listening to this. All right. I got it

Now I don't think so So translation, no one's listening to this. All right, I got it. I don't think so. I don't think so. What I heard of, this is so unprofessional. This is like one of the worst shows. And they had this guy, Billy, who's the third mic on it. And so as they're talking about this drama that's coming out.

He's the only nice guy on the show, and the two women are constantly racking on him and making fun of him. Well, this is funny because they want to get him involved in this. Now, you just heard the story. She emailed Mike Bude, he didn't respond. He used the story she wanted him to use and didn't acknowledge her and now he's an asshole.

That's the story. So they asked Billy for his thoughts. I wanted that. Do you have any thoughts about this? You know what? Yeah. No. I have. That's getting brilliant thoughts.

Yeah, no. It's never good to build yourself up on somebody else's misery. Who's miserable though? What are you talking about? Yeah, what are you talking about? Very unclear. He's like, leave me out of this. I don't know who the asshole is here,

but I don't want to talk about it in front of you. If that's possible. So you know Billy wasn't listening either, because anytime somebody says, you want to hear an interesting story, you guarantee to hear an uninteresting story. That's true. That's true.

I would tune out if I was the co-host of this show as well. So they decide that Mike Bude is living the greatest life possible. He's got fuck you money. I think Mike is a little bit miserable. And- That guy's delighted. I think that guy is not miserable. I think that guy has probably a better life than anybody I know because he doesn't give a fuck. He acts like he acts like he acts like he has to you money like that's joy She's right

Do tell I've done very well for myself Is that pure joy though? I have an amazing life and I could not have had and I could have not had this life without doing what I would I do you know When I did it because I think when I started there were absolutely no true crime podcasts at all Right, maybe one or two and they were shit and this was 2014 and serial the biggest podcast not just true crime But the biggest podcast, not just TrueCraft, but the biggest podcast ever came around nine months after I started mine.

And because I was in the TrueCraft space, there was a year's worth of content to listen to for people that had listened to serial. So I rode that wave and, you know, I've done very well. We have about 45,000 between Apple and our own paid subscription platform, 45,000 paying subscribers, and yes, I do have fucking money. So, um, thank you for that. Well, congratulations. I know that Sortin Scale is one of the standards of true crime podcast. I'm just hoping that one day a category will be fuck OP

because then I'll have all these episodes as people are just having ride that wave. Somebody John sucks, new category on Apple Podcast. But I just thought it was funny that they equate the fact that you've done very well with your podcast to meaning that you must be very happy in life and they talk about comparing that to Howard Stern. He's doing what what people like Howard Stern do. Like it's like shock culture and you win a certain amount of people over with that.

Hey, you pigeonhole yourself into a corner for sure, but then how is Stern as miserable? How is Stern goes to therapy three times a week and he admits that he's miserable. Because of his career choice? Not miserable. Have you listened to the show? He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable.

He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable.

He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. He will tell you he's miserable. people that are really boring tend to equate anyone that has any sort of edge to them to Howard Stern. They tend to make that comparison all the time. For sure. Yeah, but I thought that was funny.

They're like, well, obviously Howard Stern is not miserable. You know, he's got hundreds of millions of dollars. And the one guy, Billy, he's like, no, I listen to a show. He is miserable. And Howard Stern is miserable. He's miserable to be around. I know people who like, no, I listen to a show. He is miserable. And how is certain is miserable? He's miserable to be around. I know people who know Howard. I know this for a fact.

He's a miserable fucking person. Money is not equal happiness, but these people seem to think, like, yeah, but you hear him any advertisers he had on the last episode, like, okay. That's also a trait of highly successful people that are creative tend to be miserable as well. Like the neurotic tendencies of the same. The same thing that makes you very successful

because of your creativity and whatever it is, whatever that spark is. Also, it opens up, there's parts, I don't know how this works, but I think there's a correlation there between those same types of people and think more, they have more, they have more things that they're neurotic about, that they worry about, they have more anxiety, they have lots of, lots of things that are going on

in their head. Well, there's a level of perfectionism that gets them there and then whatever they're doing, even though people say it's good, they still recognize it as good as they want it to be. Go ahead, Doug. That's Patrick Michael thinking. How could you be sad if you have money. Yeah exactly. Well I also think that you know money he, how it's going to be exactly the same person that he is whether miserable or, if he didn't have any money. Right. The money doesn't hurt though.

It sure as fuck doesn't hurt when you're having a bad day and you don't have to worry about how you're going to pay the bills. It takes one of the problems that you could have in life out of the equation. Exactly. Right. I totally understand that. So Mike, because I have you on the show and because you are the aficionado on true crime, I have to talk to you about my ex-friend,

disavow, Matthew Lewinsky, the podcast hitman. Have you seen this story? Now, if we do this story on the show two years from now, are you gonna call me, or change, or give me credit? That's all I'm gonna give you. If you do the show, please, please, please, please do the show. So we talked about this on the creep off the other day, but I do want to just tell the

story for anyone who's unaware of this who's not on the subreddit or in the discord reading thousands of messages about it. Podcasts have been on the show. Back in April of last year, he came on our show because he follows Patrick Michael very closely. And he would send me tons of clips of Patrick Michael and information what's going on. And Mike, if you don't know, Patrick Michael

is the most prolific podcaster of all time. Okay. So you have a show with 45,000 people who subscribe to it. He has 45,000 shows Is this the guy that does like the metal and yep? Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about So podcast man was fascinated by this guy So we had him on our show back in April. He's something about your clips We did a thing and podcasts at that point said, I can no longer help you with Patrick Michael.

I have a girlfriend that's getting serious and I have to retire from the Patrick Michael thing. And I told him that's bullshit. Fuck your girlfriend. I need you to help me with Patrick Michael. Anyway, fast forward. Yeah, fast forward. August of last year, they get engaged.

They're living together. They're just outside of Detroit in Michigan. I guess in November, she moved out. They were fighting all the time. According to the neighbors, they heard a lot of fights going on. The girlfriend was very loud in these fights. Matt's more of a timid guy, but there were lots of arguing stuff. He told the neighbor, if she tries to come back,

there's no way I'm gonna let that bitch in my house. That's paraphrasing what she said. December comes around, she moves back in. Now, the neighbor, Matt doesn't drive. The neighbor was driving Matt to the grocery store on a regular basis to get groceries. I think Matt's parents own the complex they lived in. So Matt wasn't working, but he's got a set up there. And so they were, and yeah, guys, correct me if I'm wrong, I know

people have been studying this more closely than I have. So in December, all of the sudden, he goes and buys a ton of shit at the grocery store like way more than usual, all these supplies. Since then, he hasn't really been out. They don't see the girlfriend anymore. They used to be friendly. The girlfriend would like give toys to the neighbor's kids and stuff and it was all like very a community. And now all this and they don't see Matt out

very much anymore. I know where this is going. But Matt has been posting tons of shit on lines doing yoga. He's a big man. He said he weighed 400 pounds and lost 100s. He's down to 300. He's doing yoga. He's a big man. He said he weighed 400 pounds and lost hundreds. He's down to 300. He's doing yoga. He's jump ropeing. He's doing all this stuff. And he's on Twitch and he's on Twitter. And there's comments on YouTube videos of my bad place.

Anyway, he's all over the internet during this time. And what people didn't know was that he strangled his girlfriend to death allegedly, he admitted to it, but it's allegedly. And then brought her to the basement and left her body there, and they just discovered it at the end of July. And the neighbors said the stench was so bad that had to cover their faces, walking from the car to their house and they thought for sure an animal had died and there were welfare checks people are like what is going on here they didn't know which house to go to because it's hard to tell

when there's a smell like that eventually mad sister came over to visit him discovered the body and called the police and he's been arrested now since that so this is a horrific crime uh... that contributed to your show the body and called the police and he's been arrested now since that. So this is a horrific crime. This is a guy that contributed to your show. This is the guy that I was in communication with all the time since December. Like I go back to our DMs on both Twitter and Discord.

We were communicating with each other all the time. Very normal. You know, I was just watching a video yesterday about, I'm sure you know this, because you cover Howard Stern all the time. There's a guy that called in to Howard Stern back in the 90s or something where admitted that he was a serial killer killing sex workers and stuff like that. I remember this, yeah.

You can deal with that. I am. Yep. So you have your own version of that. Yeah, and it's fucking weird because it's not just me. Like everyone who's part of our community communicated with podcast hitman. He was very active. Sorry. When I was last on your show, it was for a Patreon episode on patty seecups on Patrick Michael. Yeah. And podcast hitman was sending me clips to bring to the show.

There you go. Just enjoying that time. Yeah. Act that his name was podcast hitman that didn't set off any red flags. No, not at all. That was like this makes perfect sense. Well, he's a wrestling fan too. So you got, okay, brought the hitman hired. I guess he was a fan of baby, but um, so Mike, you study these types of things. What's going on here? Any psychological evaluation or what are your thoughts on this?

Well send me over the guy's name if you know the guy's actual name and we can we could put in some free Of information requests and see what we pull up. Maybe we'll get some pictures or something Yeah, we have pigeonigeon Matthew Lewinsky, and I can send you the articles and stuff, but yeah, it's all public information. I'm happy to do that. A legwork and see what comes up and might actually, you know, it might actually be a nice little collaboration.

If so, we'll bring you on and we'll have you tell that story. That's a fucking amazing story, by the way. It's incredible, and there's more to it than that. So the body was being mutilated over this time too and this is the mystery part of it is they said there was a large amount of flesh taken off of her back over this time. Oh god. Yeah.

What was he doing? I don't know, there's been speculation, I'm not going to speculate here, you can dry your own conclusions on that one. But fucking horrific. You said that like that's a totally normal thing can dry your own conclusions on that one. But, fucking horrific, you said that like that's a totally normal thing to dry your own conclusions. Well, what kind of conclusions are you even fucking talking about?

All right, so the reason why I said that Mike is because people speculate the discord and I've read what people are saying. I'm like, that sounds crazy, but sure, I don't know, I don't know what's going on. Check out the Homer Giff in our Discord, if you want to know what the speculation is. Somebody on Discord just said back bacon. You know, yeah. So, I mean, I got it.

It's really crazy shit. And it's the creepiest stuff to, and he was, okay, this is the other thing the videos that he was doing on twitch i believe they're all still up there uh... there probably some youtube ones to where he was exercising in his basement and that's where the body was

and i don't know it must have spelled worse than southern john's apartment at some point not the beginning uh... the smell after a while. I mean, Stuttering John has. Yeah, what do they call that like, like, like, uh, nose blindness or something?

When you just live in something that's so gross that you can't even tell, people come over and they're like, oh, what is that? Like, I don't know. What do you mean? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, freezer crystals like, oh shit.

Black up that. Yeah. Is it happening now in this basement? Yeah, I'll send you over some links and stuff to check that out. But what a crazy story that podcast hitman who's contributed a lot to the show turns out he's a psychopath. You know, you got to wonder how many people out there that you're probably in close contact to are either actively or will be soon a killer because they don't just come out of nowhere. They're just they're all around us. You know, people have their, their fucking weird dark thoughts that they don't reveal to the rest of the world all the time.

And they're all around us. And they could be right here on this, uh, this very conversation. I see. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, See, Mike hosted TrueCry podcast, so he doesn't realize that most people are dormers, like, oh, everyone's a psychopath. This is just what I have to do. Have you met people? So, all right, I wanted to get that out there. Some crazy information.

I'm Drew and Mike, they were diving into his Twitter and his playlist. And his playlist is pretty good. I gotta be honest with ya. they were naming off the size like, yeah, all right, this guy has some good taste of music. Like what? It wasn't bad. Well, one of them was Michael Jackson's Black or White,

which is kind of funny. Okay. But no, he had some good stuff out there. He had some, it was a lot of 80s stuff, but it was fun. I enjoyed it. Oh boy. American Psycho. So yeah, yeah, for sure.

Mike, is there anything else that you wanted to communicate while you're on the show today? Well, just the fact that I heard, so my perception of you changed, first of all, because I realized that the, these people that I called friends were complete. Dick heads. Yeah. And also the fact that, you know, I guess we have a lot of people in common. Like you said, Dick, I've been on Ethan Ralph's program a few times. We do.

And on Anthony Kumius show. And everybody, I just kept seeing everybody talking about you and your show. And so I gave it a listen. And then I discovered that you guys did a show on this other true crime show. One with, has been instrumental in trying to sick their rab rabbit SJW fans on me and get

me canceled. It's called true crime obsessed. And it's it's people. The dumb bitch and a hyena. Yeah, that shows I'm so pissed they're successful. And I never I'm worried about other people's success. I don't care., except for these people, they suck. Yeah, well, I'm proud to announce that we've now surpassed their paid subscribers on every platform and we're well beyond that. And so they can go. Because it really number one on Patreon for a while,

weren't they? Yeah, and we would be now, we would now be number one if we were still on Patreon. We left because they started censoring voices. They started, they got rid of Sargon of a cod. He said the wrong word on a different platform in actually appropriate context. A year prior and they decided to cancel his Patreon because of it. So they started doing that and

and I made a decision to get off there. We spent a hundred thousand dollars developing our own app and platform and it's I'm glad we did because now they there's no way anybody can just flip a switch and turn us off. Got your own pirate ship there. That's exactly right and I think you have to in this day and age if you're unless you're going to be part of the boring masses that just repeat the same fucking talking points. And props to you, I really appreciate what you do. You don't take ship from people even though you have everything to lose. And that takes balls, my friend. So I like to get to I heard you on the D Dick show. My wife is one of the biggest fans of

years ever. She got to do many, many years ago. Always praises your show. She listens to a lot of true crime. And always says yours, yours is the best. So people should check out Sword and Scale if you don't already. And we'll be I'll text you. I'd like to send, I'd like to send your wife some some merchant stuff. I'll just know my, but I'll text you afterwards. That like to send I'd like to send your wife some some merchant stuff I'll accept it if you know my but I'll text you afterwards. That'd be great and Mike you don't owe me any favors at all I appreciate coming out. I was at Dictia early on I'm sorry about that. I do This is made up for by you coming on the show today So you don't owe me any favors, but I have a true crime podcast

And it's called the creep off and if you could guest on that, it'd be amazing. My buddy, Vity Paul Lina would be thrilled. I'd love to. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Okay. Great. It's it's more of a comedy true crime podcast, but we get into it. Great. All right. So I'll be in touch with you on that as well. And yeah, anything else you want to plug as far as the website or anything like that? Nah, just, you know, don't go to my social media unless you have a thick skin.

Oh, I visited your sub-runner because I'm like, what the fuck is going on over here? And it's just like everyone's just trashy going, like, why does this exist? Don't go to the sub-runner. Don't go into any Facebook groups. Don't do any of that nonsense. Yeah. Just my own. Yeah. Just go the west. Yeah. Anyway, no, yeah, sornscale.com. Just you can find anywhere in sornscale.com slash plus if you want to join the plus subscription. But thanks, thanks again for having me on. I really had

a lot of fun. This is, this is great. You're a good egg. Thanks for coming out, Mike. All right. Thank you. Take care. Mike. All right. Now that we've had Mike on the show, I have to play for you this piece that was put together by Dennis Michaels in our discord. This is Requiem for a hitman. The Smale, man. It was the first thing I noticed. It was a kill-shack. I've never partied with entrails. We knew. We had a killer. This was a suggestion that came in from podcast Hitman. He is a person who listens to just about every episode that Shama's puts out.

The podcast Hitman is joining us. Podcast hitman, what do you want to go? Do you want to go by Matt Lewinsky? You go by Podcast hitman, how do we refer to you? Doesn't matter what everyone call me Carl. Girlfriend wants to get serious, so I won't be listening to Shamus. That's So sometimes you get fucking idiots and fake people that like to come in and run their mouth, but truth is, they're living a sad existence and they need validation from you. So much like blocking them, many of these fucking losers, this Matt Lewitsky, one of the fucking Chomo-looking self is, whatever's name is, this dude talking shit, he's looking for validation from a podcast that doesn't even talk about him, but talks about me. I love that he called Balu. It's a show about a fun car.

This fucking idiot who's now never gonna see the light of day. Thank you so much to podcast, Hitman. And I hope that the relationship doesn't work out with you and your girlfriend and you come back to listen to your shows and helping us out. I would be nowhere if it wasn't for podcast Hitman. He is a lifesaver. I'm not quite. You just had to sit back and get serious.

Well, this is disturbing. I discovered this yesterday. Yes. Now we're going to talk about something that is pretty serious. Girlfriend wants to get serious. We need the details, man. Flynn Township Man, killed girlfriend, lived with new, later remains for seven months.

Now I'm looking at this, and I'm going, huh, that name rings about. This is our fault, right? Isn't that the same name as a podcast? Hitman? Boy, is my face red. Samantha Yolinsky, yes. Yes. It's a podcast hitman? Boy, is my face right? Samantha Ylwinski, yes.

Yes, it's it's podcast hitman murdered his girlfriend and lived with the remains for seven months before it was discovered. Well, her remains were kept in the basement. The prosecutor said the whiskey removed large portions of skin from her back. Seeing that shackle, the trotus, blood, guts, flesh, and even fur.

A death perfume. What about the flesh? Is there an island that's what they've learned? That's too much power for me. I guess now is more proof than ever that most of the people that do trash mean are not doing better than I. This person has been talking crazy shit to the point where there's no coming back. Because even if I am this crazy person that is yelling into a microphone all by myself,

you're listening to it. Even if it's for a few seconds, you hear it, and now I'm in your brain. What does that do? Fucking pay off, socked. What'd you think was going to happen? It really happened to me. Well done in putting that

coprolated together. That was wow. That was that was really great. A lot of Chris from a lot of different shows and it also segues nicely into this. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me. Don't tell me you don't like my

show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Because I've observed. So Doug, I don't think you've heard this yet, but Patrick Michael has a new briefcase out. Damn it, are you fucking kidding me? Carl, I subscribed to his shit and I didn't get one and I didn't listen to so many stupid podcasts for this goddamn show and he's the one I want

to listen to I had no idea. Well it's interesting because he knows about this information with Matt Lewinsky. So he comes out on his show and he's very concerned about the victim in the case and everything that went down. But one of the things that is nice is I have a feeling that a lot of the troll accounts and the fake accounts that have been created over the last several years, whether it be on Twitter, to actually pretend to be me or on Instagram to contact me, they'll just be gone. And for how long? Indefinitely, and that's exciting. Patrick's. Yeah, he just comes out and it's just like, yeah, well,

these fucking trolls are gone now. Ha, ha, like whoa, whoa. Little ruined our dance. Nothing like a role, buddy. Jesus Christ. Controls are gone now. Whoa. Whoa. Really, it's our dance, nothing great. You're a roll, buddy. Jesus Christ. Ooh, not subtle at all. But when is Patty ever subtle, right?

All right, so this is another episode where he comes out and says, I have all these people following me on Patreon, and I hate you all, and don't follow me, and I don't need you, but please subscribe. Just contradict to yourself over the place. I'm not gonna play all those clips, we've played those clips so many times, it's fun!

It's so fun, I still enjoy it, but it's just a broken record. You know, it's being crazy. And that's fine. But what pisses me off is when he starts saying that he's giving me fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he purposely doesn't use my name

because he has such a huge fan base now. He doesn't want them finding my show through his. I don't want your dumb fans and I don't want the people that enjoy my stuff to know who you are either. That's why I don't ever call you by your real name. I wish you weren't a liar. Wow It's not true that he doesn't call me by my real name in fact later on in the episode he says this People are starting to flock over here now that worry your fans and they actually will say that. Hey man Carl fucking sucks dick

Hey, man dick sucks dick. Good. Fine. whatever, but also don't care. I don't care. Also, the I don't care stuff. Another entire episode about me, Dick Masterson, Dr. Steve, I don't care. It's getting a little old car. I had said I was on your Patreon for a bonus episode. Patreon.com slash who are these podcasts for everyone. But at the end of that episode, I was so beaten down by him. I found what he was saying, so uninteresting. And he may be manic depressive, so it was possibly one of those depressive valleys that he was at the time.

I do have to say though, he's come back and I'm really enjoying the guy now. Yeah, yeah, oh no, no, he's excited. He's up to 26 supporters on Patreon. He's on top of the world. He even says at one point, I never expected to get this successful. I was like, oh no.

But, so he, for the first time ever, acknowledges the creep off, Fitty. This is really exciting, my friend. They got real classy takes. You know, they sound like real cool guys, even though they call their show the creep show or whatever the fuck. If it has creep in it, why are you listening?

Why would you listen to a show that has creep in? It's not about true crime. It is about true crime. Weird, very weird. And when you tie it all together, speaking true crime and all this other stuff, it gets real dark, doesn't it? It gets super dark. And it's just so fucked up because it was either this person was a super fan of mine

or a super fan of theirs, either way, that don't want ya. I talk about Paque, I sit there at the end there and I also disavow. I, don't want ya. I talk about podcast at the end there and I also disavow. I also don't want ya, all right? So there's twice now on the show. Disavow. Be sure. Yeah, and Coral, I have a question.

You have a disavowed yet, Doc. No, no, no, not yet. Listen, is this a Patreon episode? I'm not getting this. It is, so this is what he does He puts it up on patreon it'll it'll come out eventually But he puts up like a week on patreon first Shit and

I don't know how I'm getting this stuff anymore right and people might say but Carl You don't get patreon you shouldn't be playing stuff as we had to pay wall But you have to remember that he blocked me. I was trying to give him money for this stuff He blocked me too. I'm sure I could do it I want to give him money Yes Yeah, I reached out to him on On

Instagram for a bit and then he found out who I was and that's when he made the stupid comment on a show about some asshole Who talks about movies and they blocked me? That's right, that's right, that I remember. The guy who, the reason why we discovered was he did a show about movies. He's like, these fucking assholes talk about movies. I was giving him money just like you and then he blocked me. I was like, God damn it.

Okay, so this is how he starts off a show by talking to how many people are supporting him on Patreon. But of course, that doesn't make a difference, Dan. Does that make sense? Like, I could do this without any listeners. And I have. Oh, okay. And this is the thing that Anthony was talking about last week about OP,

and Patrick Michael does the same thing where he's like, I don't need anyone to listen to my show. I'm not trying to get listeners, which is a cop-out to be like, well, your show's not very good. Good! And I want it to be good. And I'm trying for anyone to listen to my show. I'm not trying to get listeners, which is a cop out to be like, well, your show's not very good. Good. And they want it to be good.

And I'm trying for it to be good. But then he also tells people to go to pay to try and support them. So it's this weird balancing act that he has. Never acknowledge you're trying to put on a good show because that will paint you into a corner, right? No, it's what's been brought up many times is that he has zero confidence in what he's doing

Right So he explains that he is part of our show and I agree with that. He's a big part of our show Oh, yeah, we are not part of his show now. This is the 20th episode. He's put out talking about me But we are not part of his show because I'm a part of your show Never have you ever been a part of mine none of you even just mentioning it like this It's not a part of the show Okay, I'm simply bringing it up because the strange shit that has happened as a recently We're not gonna get into all that will let we'll save that for them they can defend themselves in that way, but nonetheless

I'm still making the content. Have nothing to talk about today. He's nothing to talk about. It's a 30 minute episode. It's got nothing to talk about today. I love just the meandering nonsense. We're halfway through a sentence. He forgets what he's talking about.

It just has to default to, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't have anything to talk about this is an important Why are you listening who cares go away? That's not even a joke So in this episode if you didn't know who I was or who Dick Masterson was or who Dr. Steve was or even who Chris Chan was You'd have no idea what you or podcast him. You'd have no idea what he, or podcast him in. You'd have no idea what he was talking about. He doesn't really explain anything. He just goes, you guys probably know what I mean.

You guys probably know what I'm talking about. Here's an example of him bringing up Chris Chan, but you would never know who he's talking about because he also misgenders the poor fella. But then there's some other dude I've never heard of. I don't know if he's a podcaster. I don't know anything about it. What I do know is something about the mother and the son was doing things to her and I don't know somebody and it has to do it like Richard

Is I don't know they have a trash page on Richard. So I imagine there's some sort of content creators nonetheless Would you know what he was talking about? Never Some of the mother every what everyone listening does what he's talking about It's something with the mother every what everyone listening knows what he's talking about every one of his listeners came from your show And understand what's happening right now He knows that and he knows that I don't see wouldn't be doing this He wouldn't be putting on a show where it's so hard to Know what possibly know what the fuck he's talking about

But everybody knows what he's talking about He's got a big announcement He's doing or or no, he knows where he's I feel like I want to say he knows what he's doing and I hate to give the guy that much credit But I think he gets it. Well, he's got he's got a motto for his show as I've said a motto of the show is Go away That's a pretty good line God damn it. I thought it was gonna be fished to water. I would have bet you had you started to play that and stop that I would have

bet you a hundred bucks it was fished to water. Talk about retarded. Talk about retarded. So this is him explaining that he's made a big announcement on Instagram. And you guys might have recently seen me post on the briefcase saying, hey, we're going Patreon only. And the reason that is is because I'm just sick of these guys being able to get my clips for free. Like, if you want to clip my show in any fashion, I should get something for it, right? Because it's not as if you're bringing me views.

Alright, so two things wrong with this. should get something for it, right? Because it's not as if you're bringing me views. All right, so two things wrong with this. One is that I was willing to pay for it, and you won't want me, saying it's dog. And I am bringing you views. I'd like to know if there's one of those 26 people who didn't discover Patrick Michael through who are these podcasts or the deck show.

How else could you? I don't know, it's impossible to find. So one who wanted to learn about chewed gum, like actual chewed gum. If you Googled chewed gum for 1,000 years, you wouldn't find his page. You would never find it. You could start Googling that in 1972

and you would never find it. I need a new briefcase. Let's see if you can find it. Oh, whoa, what's this? Uh, I finally, finally Carl knowing clear well what I would find typed in bad brain studios into Google and I was like oh yeah bad brains were really great so you know that's it you'll never find a YouTube channel but you hear some good tunes but you'll see some live shows in the 80s that are great. Yeah. It was worth it. So

this is the stuff he says I think he does just to hurt me that he knows I'm gonna play out my show. Now is all of this because some random dude talked about me and they said, hey I'm a I actually like that guy. I'd love to go listen to him. He sounds better than the dude I'm listening to. I'd love to go listen to him, he sounds better than the dude I'm listening to. I just can't help but to wonder how much better the clips are from my show than as far as audio quality can compare us into their entire show. But again, here I am, never listening. Ever. He thinks that when we play his audio clips, people can hear the difference in quality.

I have to boost his audio clips by 10 DBs. There's trying to cry in the background. What is he talking about? Well, I don't know what he's talking about because is he talking about the fact that his audio on your show sounds 100% better than on his own show? That's not what he's saying. I know what that is.

That's exactly what's happening. That might be it. Well, what he was saying was I'll put it in context. What he was saying was, I have all these listeners who heard about me again, counter to himself. I have all these those who heard about me from Carl show. And I sounded so good on his show. They came over to my show. I'm like, oh, this is what shows are supposed to sound like. This is a good show. I know. I know. It's absurd.

You're kind of alluded. Yeah. All these people heard him on your show went to his and went, why can't I hear anything? What the fuck is going on? Well, the one thing I know is that he loves Mark Norman. And he had a guy reach out to him and say, you should get Mark Norman on your show. And Patrick Michael was offended by this. Well, if you listen to my show, you'd know that I love Mark Norman.

I've talked about that, which is a weird thing to get irritated about. I'd be like, why'd you know him? I'm like, I didn't get reached out to me and say, hey, I can get Mark Norman in a show. I'm like, great. I love Mark, I love it. Let's do it.

You know, didn't work out. But it's that's beside the point. So then Mark Norman's on the Jim and Sam show, and someone reaches out and says, oh shit, you should try to get on the Jim and Sam's show. And of course he would never do that. But what was funny is then he goes the next day and apparently Norman was on Jim and Sam and he comments on the post with Norman. You guys should have do you party official on with Mark Norman.

You guys should have do-you-party official on with Mark Norman And I said I could I replied directly to this comment Hey, man We wouldn't waste our time with Jim and Sam Okay, I'm not looking to get 50-year-old fans that used to like opian Anthony No, thank you. He wouldn't waste his time going on the Jim and Sam show, a show that Mark Norman thinks is worth this time because he just went out there,

but he doesn't want to promote his show to people who used to like Opian Anthony. The Jilted lover. What is this, also, what is this weave that he's talking about? When Mike says that we developed an app, I believe he is a team of people who work with him. Right. Yeah, when Mike says about producing a show, and he says we developed an app, I believe he is a team of people working with him. Right.

Yeah, when Mike says about producing a show and he says we produced this show, it's like, right, that makes sense. All right, well this I think could be a new tagline for WATP. And all you're doing is talking shit about other shit, and you are also shit. I love that. That's our new tagline. We talk shit about other shit, and the listener is also shit. Let's do this.

You ready for some very classic, petty sea cups logic? 100, all the time, all day long. I love his logic, it's so impressive. It makes it so that I think I'm the idiot. He gaslights me every time with this stuff. Because what we do know is we're all dummies. But some of us dummies get it.

And that also matters, right? Matters massively. Because even if I am this crazy person that is, you know, yelling into a microphone all by myself, you're listening to it. Even if it's for a few seconds. You hear it, and now I'm in your brain. What does that do? That's too much power for me. That's too, I can't handle it. Too much responsibility. I've never heard him yell by the way. Only during battle songs. I know. I wish he was yelling a new microphone to be interesting.

And fuck me or fight me, he was yelling right? That's true. That's true. And also the song that was written with his words. What in the world is podcast clicking is Get on the bus! Alright, Adam Thorough is the man. I still love that song. Right, it is a good tune. Well, I'd still have my board. Alright, more victory-laping about podcast hitman. I don't know why he sees this as a success.

And I love that he said that we had to explain ourselves for it. Yeah, I'm really sorry that my best friend murdered this girlfriend and I apologize for that my bad. I'm the retard Right, that's what you say that's what they try to tell me I'm a retard, right? But look at this guy. He's one of your favorites, right? He's all up in the discord He's the one doing all the research getting the clips for ya and look at him it was a sad existence and now it's gonna be even sadder alright well he's got he's he's right about that but look at me I have clips and podcasts hitman's behind bars so apparently apparently I was able to pull this top of my own. Who did that for you? Michael Pupuck? The great Michael Pupuck!

They're fans. That's it. They love me. They want me to be on the show. Apparently, there's open invites. And I've never heard of you. So why would I come on you? You know, I don't know who you are.

So again, just contradicting himself. So the open invite last week was from Anthony Kumia, who said, yeah, Pet, I'll better make on my show. He knows who Anthony is, he's talked about it before. And he also said, I wouldn't go on Jim Norton's show. He knows who Jim Norton is. But then he says, I've opened invites to shows, and I wouldn't go on because I don't know who they are.

I just don't think he will go on any show. I think you're just afraid of going out people shows. I've heard you say there's open invites, and also I've never heard you. I know, I hear I'm only open invites. I don't listen to that guy show, never. I'll never listen to that guy show. I love it so much.

Has Patty's team comes ever guested on any one show, even one of his dumb friends? Yeah. Should he song of the week? Yeah, that was the one. Oh Well, fucking friends. Yeah, that's the one to pull the crew That's the only thing you've ever tried. I understand not wanted to do that. Yeah, right. He was also on Delvin Cox's show and you just Remind me of something so Delvin Cox So on Delvin Cox's show, you just reminded me of something. So Delvin Cox interviewed him and he read questions that I submitted and podcast hit man submitted. Yeah.

That was so great. That's when he said his show was a legacy to his children. Wonderful. My question to him was, what's the point of all this? What do you try to accomplish? And he goes, I want there to be record of myself for my kids to enjoy long after I'm gone. Like it's, and by the way, it deletes every podcast and he puts out eventually and I'll get deleted. So what's he talking about? He's just going to have him a giant hard drive. Here's, here's 15 million hours

of your dad being a lunatic at the closet. Thanks dad. Can't wait. If you've wondered how long the next M like Shyamalan movie is, he might want to listen to that episode. So this is interesting. He constantly says he doesn't listen to our shows and he doesn't care. I mean, this is a whole episode about how much he doesn't care again. And yet he admits to looking at our Discord. He admits that he's going through our discord channel. right? Yeah. So he was still hanging out with you. He's one of your best friends. You're all friends, right? Now look at him. And now look at you. Egg all over your face, huh?

Egg on the face now, right? Egg whites. I swear. I swear it's egg whites. I'm not a big fan of how he just trails off and doesn't use his tone to talk This is not a cool thing. He feels he doesn't like that move. He has a moral superiority here Where he's going and I once on the discord that this guy who murdered his girlfriend sent you a note saying that I was doing such and such It's like well, okay, that doesn't mean we're friends. It doesn't mean fucking anything. Oh, yeah. He's still just jealousy of the friendship. It's got none to do with the poor girl that got murdered. Yeah, I know. It's like fuck you guys in your whole comradery. I love this guy so much. I really did. I can't.

I have the best news for you right now, Doug. Oh, because you love him so much, there's a new project in the works. Oh, great. And he's gonna tease it. He's gonna tell you a little bit about this new project. But on a lighter note, I suppose, we'll close the show with this simple thing. I mentioned on Patreon, I'm gonna start some new projects.

I got some ideas in mind. Started working on art, music, and what have you. For that show. And I think it's gonna be a lot like this but perhaps for fresher eyes or something it's just gonna be a more arrogant version I guess better way to monetize the funny what it's gonna be like this. I got these ideas. Here me out.

It's gonna be just like this, but it's gonna be more arrogant so that I can monetize the funny. What? What part of the show? What money? It's something that show with his mushroom out friend where they did like

weird sketch that started in the middle of a conversation and ended in the middle. That didn't last long did it. Those those really great and also impossible to listen to. He's got the Josh Potter episode out of Do You Party. Which that's still going on. I guess man what happens is he records these shows months ago and finally puts them out eventually so I don't even know if he's still doing it but he did put that out. I thought he quit that because he was so angry that nobody listened to it and everybody loves the briefcase. Ganzel Shitcock says, Jenny Garth went to school more than Patty C. Cups. I would have to agree with that. She may have

passed her jewelry making class. Well, twin class. Good boy. She was pretty good at typing and speech. We're in the class. Good boy. She was pretty good at typing in speech. Okay. All right, so this is exciting. He's going to get into hip hop again. And he wants to tease that next project. And there are some of you out there that are thinking, well, snakes in the grass, that

was a hit. I am ready for whatever you have next. So, snakes in the first two! And it's way, you heard it here first! He better collab with PJ and Doug though, because otherwise I don't want to hear it. Oh no, no, I don't want to hear it. Also strange enough, I was wondering that. He's right. He was actually right for once. You probably been thinking for the last 30 years, what's going on behind the scenes in out of 2 of 2.0? Nope. You're probably wondering what I'm gonna start in pop. I got

Yep That I want to know that I'm actually interested in I actually heard from PJ recently with this podcast hitman news. He he does still exist everybody Let's get let's bring him back haven't had a fun song parody a little bit Who's doing that spreadsheet show now? Who's taking off those spreadsheet show? No, I was gonna say I got a request to come back on and now I'm like wait who sent that to me? Oh did you really? Yeah, you know, this is a while ago. You know Mrs. PJ the most would be my buddy Vinny because

Creeps and roses is just like 80 guys yelling over sound clips Yep, it's great is what I've been All right, so after he's talked about all this stuff that you can't make sense of if you don't know what he's talking about as He's talking about Roy and Richard and someone who might have a podcast, but he's not sure who did something with his mom and you know all these other things he says this. That's why I hate bringing up shit that's like inside stuff. Because to gain new listeners, you would have to talk about things that they would be able to understand. When it's all inside jokes when I'm saying Richard and Roy and fucking whatever the fuck, no one's gonna know what it is unless they're in on the bits, okay? And I know this. He knows it, but he still doesn't.

He's on the bits, Patty. Like everyone's in on this. What are you talking about? Honestly, if you're trying to be discovered, though, and I've talked about this a lot, on the podcast is, and I'm getting worse at this over time, I understand. But you want to be able to like get a new listen up to speed very quickly. It can't be all inside stuff in the lore, and this guy comes out and he goes,

if I want a new listeners, I have to like talk about what people knew I was talking about, and yet he did an entire episode where no one knows what he's talking about. yet he did an entire episode where no one knows what he's talking about. He's tried to get new listeners over 87 shows for about five years. It's the only thing he's going

to be able to do is to share or post your listeners. That's it. That's been his strategy over the last two months because always doing is bring clips that I can play on the show and he's obviously doing it on purpose. It's not that dumb. I'm okay with that I can play on the show. And he's obviously doing it on purpose.

It's not that dumb. I'm okay with that. Last clip I have here, this is, you know, Dr. Steve, the guy's a sweetheart, he really is. And he was concerned about Patrick Michael. We did that psycho analysis episode. And that's great. Yeah, and Pady lashed out after that.

And Dr. Steve was like, I don't feel good about this. So he reached out to me, tried to get in touch with them. analysis episode. And that's great. Yeah. And Patti lashed out after that. And that's where he was like, I don't feel good about this. So he reached out to me, tried to get in touch with them. And you know, like everyone else legitimately wants to get him on his show, wants to have a chance to talk to him. And whenever that your Steve did to reach out to him, I think he's turned Patti. But again, I also want to say this. Let's close it this way. I made an episode about Dr. Steve now

None of these things are meant to be Hey, fuck that guy forever. Oh, you know, I mean like I hate him. I'm not that type of person It's simply it was a fun angle to take and a very weird thing to see So of course I got to mention it it made for for great content but I have no qualms with this person. But again that doesn't mean I'd ever do your show. That doesn't mean I'd ever let you analize me guy. Never. I didn't catch that the first time. Over a foot in the guy. I think he's an analize. That doesn't mean I'd ever let you analize me guy. Why don't you want'd ever let you A-t-a-lyze me, guy.

Why don't you want to A-t-a-lyze you? He's not that type of doctor. Or is he? He's got that smooth voice. So, that's cute, though. I don't know what Dr. Steve did or how he responded, but that's really nice. I didn't know that Patty C. Cups could come around on someone, you know.

Right. And I'll tell you what I did is that I pulled that clip at another clip that he said later about Dr. Steve and I sent them to him immediately. I'm like, Hey, just see a no. Whatever you did, Patty doesn't hate you anymore because Dr. Steve, like I said, sweet man and was very excited about this news. And speaking of Dr. Steve, he has three tickets to our live show

in Lombard, Illinois in August 28th that he is going to give away. They're at a high top table. They're each $30 a piece. Get them for free. Hang out with Dr. Steve at his table. It's a good spot. All you have to do to get these seats.

It's good good spot. All you have to do to get these seats. It's get analyzed. Before or after the show, your choice. Do you want to be comfortable during the show? Sign me up, Dr. Steve. You can stand. It's cool. So if you are interested in these free tickets to our live show in Lumbar W ATP live.com. Send me an email, whtpshowatgmail.com, and tell me why you deserve these tickets. I could be three people, it could be one, it could be two.

We gotta give them away, but send me a note and tell me why you deserve it. We will pick a winner and you'll get to come to the live show, free of charge, you know what that's like. I think he said he's buying drinks for everyone too, like this guy's just looking to throw money around at this show. I'm gonna sell him T-shirts of every size. Can't wait.

How do you see Cups? You got that email? You got that email, Patty? Yeah, Patty, send us a note. Well, there's no why. So yeah, he bought tickets for his friends who were gonna come and then his friends wise up, take that out and post. post this friends decided they couldn't make it

You know we missed earlier because you and I went so long on 902 on OMG and then we had Mike Badeon as we forgot to do. Well, is that long? That seems like a million years ago? It was a long, it was yesterday. Is it still your anniversary? Yes. For a few more hours. Alright, I'm still married.

We forgot to do. I don't know, I haven't heard any footsteps upstairs for a while. She's gone. There's a good chance that finally happened. Oh, I think that was one of the songs on Matthew Linsky's a playlist actually. She's gone. Great.

Oh, no, it's dead. Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. All right. This first one comes in from Matthew who sent in a cringe from the official podcast, everybody, Kaya. And what happens here is Jackson wants to talk about this Pokemon video game. Pokemon Sword and Shield is the game.

And Andrew just disconnects him because he doesn't want to hear about it. And Jackson doesn't even realize he's off the show. I have plenty of questions, but I actually wanted to talk about something that I've been experiencing this week. I actually started playing Pokemon Sword and Shield. Oh my goodness. I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think this might be my most controversial opinion of all time. And I'm gonna get so much shit for this, but I'm gonna kick you out of my server, Jackson. I knew this was happening.

I think this might give me the most shit of anything. I think it's, I. I knew this was happening. I think like this might give me the most shit of anything. I think it's an okay Pokemon game. I've disconnected Jackson from the column, I'm listening to him. Fuck you. I said that at the time, and I eat so much shit for it. I Are you serious? All right, hello, okay there you are you fucking you fucking Tadigates I didn't I was talking for like two minutes then that's gonna be the episode Oh you saying all right, so that was actually kind of funny

Mm-hmm, but I appreciate it for a Christmas week and and we love kaya Can't give me shit by the way He was on the show when we had hot podcast hitman Colin I was like, kaya you got to talk to podcast hitman. That's pretty cool, right? He's like, yeah I heard your episode on the creep off about um you be at all concerned and I'm like well, yeah It's a serious fucking story. What do you want from me? What a kick of fast over this? Okay, strangled is girlfriend of that. One other, I cringe of the week.

This is a show called Up at Night, another true crime show. This came in from our buddy Adam Thoreau. There was one story in particular that she mentioned, Dennis Martin. So let's just jump right in. Trigger Worings for the story includes slight cannibalism, kidnapping, and death of a child,

which doesn't have like a fancy name, but I feel like it should, because sometimes that really bothers people. Slight cannibalism? Light? Nibbling. What is a slight... It's like Tyson in Holyfield cannibalism? Right, I spit it out, so it's fine. Slight cannibalism. I've never heard of such, I spit it out. So it's fine. Slight cannibalism. I've never heard of such a, I'd like to see how that's defined.

I don't. All right, maybe I don't. Maybe I'm good on that. Now I think about it. So listen, Doug, your place is to go things to be. Things to be. Nope.

But unfortunately, we have just one more segment here. That by the way is a PJ original I want to say he wrote all the lyrics of that. I just want to do the hoe and hey during that but I know that's Croscious. That's only Croscious. I want to. I don't know. Dude, he fucking does a back flip off the table. It's a deal. It's insane. about the table. So the best is when

Stuttering John forgets his green screen because he comes down the show and he does his whole like intro world famous podcaster and then he looks into the screen and realizes that you could see his shit hole apartment. It's like there's so many boxes. Sorry. This is how his episode started the other day. Yeah, baby. Where is my green street? How dare you? There we go. There. How are we everybody? Welcome to the world famous Tuttering John podcast There we go

There's my LA ground It's incredible because you just see him trying to like get it centered behind him He's talking off the mic. I have everybody else everybody there. We're gonna be starting the show world famous Everybody else everybody do it today. We're gonna be starting the show. World famous. Ha ha ha. World famous. He's got a guest on this Sophia Tussfet

from Solan Magazine. And she lives in DC, and I don't know if you guys know this, but Southern John need just superchets and your paypals so we can buy airfare to DC because he's gonna do this cool ass bet where he interviews, Republicans, and your PayPal's so we can buy airfare to DC because he's gonna do this cool ass bet where he interviews with public ends and ask him crazy questions.

He's a great question. Oh, sorry. No, yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say, how long until he gives up on this? Stop talking about it. It's a great question. That's a great question, but anyway, so he knows he's gonna be at DC and Sophia lives there.

So guess what question he asks her. Can you guess? Oh, I know the answer. Go ahead and play the clue. Thank you so much. Sophia, and when I'm in DC, let's go grab a beer. Sounds great. Take care. All right, I'll see Sophia, the great Sophia, that's me. I can get you some comp to beer tickets. I mean by you'll be no I'm kind of glad I didn't answer because I was gonna say you wanted crash on our couch

No, he always wants to get a beer with everyone and I don't think it's ever worked No, I mean she sounded sincere. I'm not gonna ask Chrissy. Maybe she has credit for So he's talking about how he's trying to hire Jackie Martling to write jokes for him that he'll ask the politicians because that's what he used to do back on the Howard Stern show. Where? Jackie would write the jokes if he was asked Gringo Starr, however, right? Billy Crystal.

He understand that hiring requires paying someone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he thinks that Jackie is a crazy person For not taking him up on this offer Shorty one I inquired about Jackie. I guess Jackie doesn't want to do it. I can't get into the world of Jackie I love Jackie to joke man, but I can't get into the Crazy world of Jackie to joke man. I offered him money. He hasn't responded. God bless him. I have no hard feelings.

But if he doesn't want to do it, it would have been a nice, a nice paycheck for him. But if he doesn't want to do it, he doesn't want to do it. He's not the only person that can write, creative and funny questions. Trust me, I work with the best on the tonight show.

And believe me, they are a talented group of people. And some of my friends who are comedians are a talented group of people as well. So, and of course, I am a very talented person, Richard. All right. A couple of things I want to point out here. First off, so you heard at the end there, this whole rant he's going on, Richard is the guest on his show during this time.

John has gone to treating his guests as co-hosts now. He's doing his plugs, and they're just staring at him. And he's talking about, I'm trying to hire Jackie. He goes, Jackie's crazy world where he doesn't get back to a lunatic alcoholic. That has no money, offering to pay him money for jokes. Like, of course, Jackie didn't get back to you. He told you he'd never talked to you again. Yes. You guys are in the house. I'm trying to pay Jackie in a blue chew and

course whites. He's hasn't got back to me yet. Also, all those writers on Leno. Listen, I just want you to know that I tried to get somebody before you. He turned me down. Yeah. And then later on, he's talking about these writers again. And he goes, the writers on the tonight show, I'm not going to say if the past a present that shows that anymore. We're talking about. It's so moved into York. That's a idiot. He also want to out the writers who are willing to work with them for a separate reason. It's your loss. Your loss.

So then he's talking about how he needs money for the plain things, but also to pay the writers. Thanks for the donation. Everything helps. I got a book, The Flights to DC and pay some of the riders. Jeeke, because I really want to be prepared for everybody. I've been sending out lists to a bunch of riders. I'm going to have a meeting with a bunch of my comic friends.

Do I think tank there? Oh, think tank? Senator, just, we're gonna get together with his friends. I don't think so. For a think tank. Ha, ha, ha, that's not what it means to be a cavity writing session. It's not a think tank.

Think tank. We're gonna figure out, uh, global warming and the economy and read some jokes and I think tank Holy shit, he's stupid Because if you're in Florida now, I just had a podcast I was supposed to do you know Thankfully, they paid me anyway, but they were paying me and they're flying me out To do a podcast cancel because of the concerns over the Delta variant. People in Florida are dying. So we explained that the podcast he was gonna be on

was canceled because of COVID, but you never have to be somewhere to podcast with someone. I have no idea where Doug lives. Or do I care? Right, it's probably good. It have no idea where Doug lives. Or do I care? Right, it's probably good. It's probably good they were dug. I wasn't expecting him to go, they canceled, they had concerns about me being a guest. He rides. That's what I mean. I need to know why the podcast he was going to be on that they already prepaid him for, which is unheard of. That's bonkers. Can'ted on him. Because of COVID, you can podcast from anywhere, John.

You're doing that with your guests right now. What are you talking about? Everyone's dying in Florida, and that's why it was canceled. And he said, he said his closet wasn't big enough for the two of us to fit in, but he still made me airfare to Gary Indiana You know what my thought was on that because he does have a couple stand-up shows out in Florida I'm wondering because he said something about comped airfare I'm wondering if he got booked to do a thing and then they paid his airfare and then they cancel He's like, yeah, but I'm keeping the air

Like that was his payment. I don't care if people are dying Yeah, I know he's so concerned about Florida. Meanwhile, he's going to do two stand-up show as a black box. Don't forget to come up and get an autograph and a selfie with yours truly. Carl, I don't know if you know this or not, but you can't spread COVID if nobody's there. Right. Yes, I do know that. It'll be fine. There is a guy Right. Yes, I do know that. He'll be fine. There is a guy on Twitter who said the clubs are right near his house And he wants to buy a cockroach costume and go to the club and I said you should definitely do that and Do that. He was asking if that was punching down. I'm like, I don't give a fuck I can't just do it. You mean like it would offend roaches

There might be cockroaches at that club. What are you calling us out? So he goes to, oh, before I get there, so getting back to this, the comedy thing where he's got the think tank coming up with all these names. He's already got a bunch of hilarious names for these politicians.

Get ready for this. Get ready to hold your sides, everybody. So as we really narrow these down from Marjorie Trail of Green and Matt Gates gets to go to jail. And then we got like so many

Lauren Bozo and Kevin Mick Dickhead and Mitch Mick Chinlist. I mean, it's going to be it's's gonna be Stuttering John on the Warpath, man. Marjorie Trailer Green. What? That was actually really clever,

why not any of these? Exactly. I did like Mitch McDickless, which he did not use. I kind of enjoyed that one. It doesn't make any sense to me. I don't get it. I'm supposed to do this. None of this makes sense. It's not a good joke sense to me. I don't get it. I'm just a nonsense. I don't have this makes sense.

I'm a good joke. But I wanted to try to get this joke out and just fail miserably. And Matt Gates gets to go to jail. And Matt Gates gets to go to jail. You know, that old chestnut. It's the way not his real name. Hold on, I'm a little confused right now. It's the way not, not as real they'm holding up a little confused right now.

I may be drunk. So he's talking about he went out to pickwick pub and ran into a fan in the fan was super stoked to see the legend that is stuttering John Melendez. Deb Thomas, because I'm a man

on my word from London, you K in the house, I hang out at the English pub. It was so funny. I was there yesterday. And this huge fan of mine, this guy named Michael, was sitting there. And when I sat next to him,

he just kept going on about what a cultural icon I am. And it was great, because all my English bodies were there. And he kept on going on and on. And they get annoyed, but I'm loving it. He's like, I should stop. I go, no, please don't. And he just kept going. I finally took a picture on the metric, bought me like two or three beers. It was a little tipsy, I think. If he says a fan bought him two or three beers, it was four or five. Yo, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, he had four or five. He paid for two or three of them himself.

So this guy is telling John O'Grady is, and he's like, yeah, okay, keep going. Keep going. Wouldn't you get embarrassed at some point? Like, all right, buddy, it was great to meet you. You know, I'm hanging out with my friends here. He's like, hey, everybody listen to this guy praise me for the next two hours.

Where the bear is meant. And then he brags about it. Can I tell you a quick story that makes you look good and me look like an asshole? Finally. My daughter, she, I had to pick her up from ballet class. I'm sitting in the parking lot there. And I'm listening to your show.

It's decent weather out here. When those are down your show's on. The guy parked next to me says to me, he's like, who are these podcasts? I love that show. And I was like, oh yeah, that's cool. How long you been listening? He's like, oh, a long time and everything like that.

And I like an asshole. I'm like, hey, I'm a nice dog. Nothing. Nothing good. And then they go, maybe like, talk from good times, great movies, nothing. It was the most embarrassing. And then I just sit next to this guy

for another 10 minutes waiting for our kids to get out. Yeah. You suddenly just turn it down, you're like, yeah, it was terrible. That's awesome. That's my favorite story I've ever heard. He's like, yeah, but do you know Kaya? Have you met Kaya?

I talked to him once. I don't know. It seemed pretty cool. Oh, dog, dog, I love you. You're that big fat loser, right? Oh my dammit. No, it's the other dog. I love that show you do with Anthony.

It's such a great show. Yeah, who is right, by the way? Can I get your honor? You're like writing Doug from Who's Right? Yeah, yeah, here you go. Anthony's the boss, I know. All right, so this is the amount of prep that Settling John does.

You don't believe me, you ass-white? Let me play you something. Ron Descentance. Let me play you something, Ron Descentens, and Jim Abbott, you maniac! Unfriken believable, just get through to commercial here. Sorry, sorry ladies and gentlemen, just get through to commercial. Uh, oh no, this is not the clip I wanted. What the hell? Damn you.

All right, that's not the clip. That's something else. That's a whole nother thing. I'll just tell you what the clip was. Epic fail. You know, easy to have the subjects you want to hit on and then the wink on your notes. You just click on and get to the right video even I do that Also like Jim Abbott not Jim ass hat like I will I will write for you John I will write for you

Yeah, I know and so he's calling out Ron to Sanctus what what do they call him Ron Ron just sentence? Ron death sentence. I think he said. Yes. Because everyone in Florida is dying. I just want to point out, and I'm not trying to be political here, but his level of politics is so bad. I enjoy shows where there's two competent people debating their sides of things.

You can learn from both sides and understand their point of view. And honestly, if you don't understand your opponent's point of view, then you shouldn't be debating in the first place, because you got to understand where they're coming from and why what you think is the better answer would be better. And so, John talks about how is it that Rhonda Santis is still the governor and yet we have a recall for Gavin Newsom. How and why are we dealing with a recall here of Gavin Newsom who is a credible, a credible governor who these woke right-wing loons want him

recalled because he wanted us to quarantine. He wanted us to wear masks and all these right-wing ass wipes, some of them insurrectionists want Gavin Newsom to be recalled. So, I don't live in California and I don't follow this as closely as I'm sure Stuttering John does, but does he know why people don't like Gavin Newsom or is he, is he playing dumb? Is he, does he really, do you really not understand why there's a real colleague going on? You, you're talking like you've never listened to a show before. He doesn't understand anything. What are you talking about?

I do love that he called them woke right wing lunatic. Yeah, I know. What's that? I mean, does he caught them woke right wing lunatic. Yeah, I know. What's that mean? Does he mean anything? That is awesome. And it makes no sense. And I love it.

Anyway, I don't have to go any further into that. That's how stupid he is. That he does not understand politics in any single way. Obviously. And that's what his whole show is about. I got to play you something. And it really is neither here nor there, but it was just so amazing to me that this existed. So I remember when we played, girls just wanna have fun.

I'm not kidding. On the Paris Hilton documentary. And there was this slowed down version of it that was like supposed to pull at your heart strings. You're like, girls, just wanna have fun. I can't believe they turned this into a ballot. This is insane. Like what next?

We're not gonna take it by Twisted Sister. You wouldn't fucking believe. DeSnider has a version version of we're not gonna take it Wow that is this has 7 million views on you two it's to bring awareness to Fighting cancer child cancer It's the most insane thing you've ever heard oh We are so kind to send in It's the most insane thing you've ever heard The all life is tried and jaded Barring and confiscated If that's your best, your best won't do

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still just yelling the leader. He just says that one mode. Good point. God damn it. This is our marathon. What have we done today? We've done it all 90210 mg. Newcomme. Sword and scale. The first degree. The official podcast. Patrick Michael podcast hitman Patrick Michael podcast hitman stuttering John We're not gonna take a list goes on All right, this is the part of the show we play clip from the podcast that we'll be reviewing on next week's episode scheduled to co-host next week's episode is Kevin, the original co-host. Kevin? To get us excited for our live show in Lombard, Illinois. And this is the podcast that we will be reviewing. We are here to be your guides.

Your guardian. This is Guardians of Lore. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night, Guardians. Welcome to Guardians of Lore. This is episode 1-2-3. Recorded August 9, 2021. The topic for this episode is beneath the endless night part 1. We're finally covering it. Oh my god, it's been so long. Right. It felt like we'd never get here. I'm gonna be the host for this episode. I am Elimist. Hi, I'm Warkid. I'm also here. Kinda.

I'm not hosting it though. We got some podcast info. All right, this is a show called Guardians of Lore from Caleb Kirschner. And the description of it is a group of friends talking lore for the video game franchise Destiny. Now apparently there's a bunch of books that have been written about this and they read the books. That sounds horrible. This is why Kevin

doesn't do the show very often. I punish him every time. Listen to this debacle you asshole. you asked all of them. So did you get for quitting? Oh boy. So dog, thank you so much. Once again, you brought it. I don't know what you brought, but it was here for a minute. Yeah. You do a show called Good Times Great Movies. I know you were doing sequels for a while in the summertime. What do you got going on these days? Well, we are wrapping up, Carl, you're kind of wrong. That was last summer. We did summer sequels, even though you came on and brought a sequel. We're doing summer of side kicks where you bring on guests.

That's what it was. That's what it was. Summer of side kicks out. That's a fucking thing that happened. It's all literation, whatever. We're wrapping that up. You were on. You brought us back to the future part too. We're wrapping that up. You were on. You brought us back to the future part too.

So much fun. Yeah. Great. Our most recent episode is on the non-porn Tracy Lord's movie of the 80s called Not of this Earth. Boring. Right, nice. And on Friday, though, we're going to talk about Star Trek 3, the search for spot to sort of wrap that up.

But yeah, good times, great movies, wherever you find your podcasts. We kind of kick around movies from the 80s a little bit. So thank you though, Carl. I always enjoy coming on your show for these mayor. You made fun of me because I had you on for an hour 45 to talk about a movie. This is, this is two hours and 40 minutes, God damn it.

Well, we started a few minutes late, but, um, all right. I do want to say, my time at Good Times Great movies was a blast. I really enjoyed it. Oh, thank you. And I did tell Doug, because he's doing side kicks all summer. Should have done some research on that. I did tell Doug, I'm like, at the end of this, I want to know who wins. Which side kick has the most downloads?

Well, let you know that right now you are over 2000 downloads ahead of the second place person. Boom, boom, boom. I mean, they have more time to catch up though, because mine's been out the longest. So we'll say, have time to catch up, but I appreciate the fact that your fans are coming on to listen to one episode of my podcast. Thanks everybody. I'm the one for me. Doug, yeah, thank you so much for coming on. Always a blast and people should check out good times, great movies.

I believe there's a website. Good times great movies.com. But you can also find that podcast wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you for doing the plugs for me, Carl. No problem, buddy. And tell your wife I'm very sorry. That's all right. I might not stick around for the voicemails, et cetera.

I don't think you should. OK. Wait, who's here? Who's the girl? We got Vic and Mr. Vic coming on today. Oh, damn it. All right, I'm going to miss it. But I'm going to miss it.

I'll be sad. Well, he's on like a Vic fan I'm a Vic fan. I will come to Lombard, Illinois at August 28th. You can meet Vic and Mr. Vic at the show. Alright, I'll be there. I won't be there Please Jordan's again next week. It might be the episode we find out what's for all who are these podcasts? Well every party in the most Of morning radio Well, everybody. I'm Cassley. Well, everybody. Party in the must-vis of Morning Radio. And now the show is called right now.

Okay. Great show. Good job, everybody. Great job, everyone. What? What? It's boring as shit. That's for real.

Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fucking thing suck! It's a thing! This dude is fucking corn! Who gets a shit, who gets a fuck? There were no laughs!

Really are not! You know, who are these? Podcasts. I don't know. I don't get it. Makes no sense. In the news, news are beautiful. Makes no sense From the WATP YouTube channel brother Ted writes I normally urge content creators to vary their topics to keep their shows fresh

This is an exception. I just can't get enough stuttering John coverage from WATP a man with no name claims Antis still the fucking man. I feel like he could be good on any podcaster show with any comic and still make us laugh our balls off. Dr. Scotty comments, I would love to see stammering John and Carl Pilkington do a show on famous sayings and idioms. Call it Idiots and Idioms or something. Phil points out, differences, Pokington is genuinely funny. He'd be wasting his time with a dick face like Melinda's. Well, we all do actually.

Kev writes, between Opie's crap cast and what's coming out of John's Roach Martel, we have an endless supply of October material. Andy M. ponders, John constantly talks about stand-up, yet I've never seen any footage,

or specialss or anything. Jerry replies, there was a clip of muttering John doing his stand-up comedy here on YouTube while back. It was unbelievably unfunny. John shuffled up onto the stage, obviously drunk, with a beer in his hand. I'll let your imagination take it from here, Andy. LOL. As much as I can't stand the guy, I was genuinely embarrassed for him. It was

that bad. One eye adds, John claims he doesn't put any of it online because he's afraid of people stealing his material. He said this. He seems to be keeping his best material off his podcast as well since he has never said anything remotely funny on it. Jay Grape's, the biggest problem with this episode, is that it's not 8 hours long. Dead Grammack quotes, though, has to protesteth die on to dying too much. Checking in with our old friends on the show's subreddit, MPGamer 18 writes, was looking forward to this one and it didn't disappoint, unless you can get Arty Lang for an SJ segment, this one won't be topped for a while.

Chica Ruizan posts, standing ovation for the 2 hour and 46 minute marathon, Top Notch episode, stuttering John's going to be meant to appreciative of the 51 minute Jopto Brin. And Cameron A.Z plays us out with, Man this is one funny episode. Anthony is the only radio husband we should have in the show. The show. Vic. Hello. Hello.

Hello. So I know we've been going a long time, but I'm excited for this portion of the show because we're going to get to meet Mr. Vic, is that true? That is very true. Is he there with you now or is he on somewhere else? I know he's somewhere else. He's Mr. Dragon Sauce in the channel.

Mr. Dragon Sauce, is he listening to the show why before? I don't think so. He just listens to my part because he's like, it doesn't like the rest of the show. And he likes your part of the show? I was deadly. So he does have bad taste.

I was going to be my first question. But now we know that Mr. Dragon sauce, you are unmuted on my end, my friend. I was going. It's going great. Wow, you sound better than KC or Vec. Yeah. Yeah, the voice is a lot smoother.

Would you like to be a review girl? What farm animal are you? I have to pick that output up. the voice is a lot smoother would you like to be a review girl what farm animal are you I have to pick that output all right so a question for you mr. vick why oh why hurt I didn't say that you did but yeah go on honestly there is never a dull moment. So you like VIX personality in our sense of humor? I like a personality. Guys, what do you mean over?

I like the sense of humor. I like it. So there's a lot of speculation that because you're both in the military, that getting married will give you the opportunity to live a better lifestyle and make more money and that this entire marriage is a sham, and I don't know if you're allowed to say this or not, but is that true? It's actually not. I've been in for about four years now. I'm very close to getting out, so getting married just for the benefits isn't really worth it at this point. Interesting. So your military career is ending. What are you gonna do after that?

Well, I have a sugar mom on lock so I'm just gonna work off that. Nice. That's not true. Nice. Vic get ready to support your husband. Oh yeah, if he gets fat I'm divorcing him though. Oh no! You can't do that. Yeah, you can Carl at the fuck. Well, okay, so Mr. Vic, what are your plans to stay in shape? Because I know that you didn't always used to be in such good shape before you went into the military. Oh, we're going to continue going to the gym and... Okay. Never a dull moment.

You've seen your future... future father law right i have i mean this could be your future vix mom purposely fattened him up mean this could be what happens right that's the thing i think she's lying she said she's only get fat but a certain point

i think you're right about that i think that can't wait to let herself go. She just look at her in excuse. I'm ready for it. I'll call him fat phobic if it happens. Perfect. Sue him for everything he's got. Exactly. Well, so you kids are in love that. That's what you're telling me. Oh, yeah, we are. Because I'll tell you, Mr. Vic, I feel like he haven't been dating that long. He got together. What about a year ago or so, and then you were off for a little bit and then you were back on. It seems kind of quick by my standards, especially since you're both

in your young 20s. But what do I know about love? I've made it better. It's mostly been long distance to so rights. Another terrible terrible reason to get there. So yeah, so when you guys get married in December, do you move in together with each other after that? How does that work? Yeah, we're moving in together, because I switched duty stations to Virginia, so I'm gonna be like an hour away from him.

Okay, that's exciting. But there's duty involved. Oh my God. So all stations, all stations, all patient, yeah. I'm getting so distracted by the gifts in our discord. It's very unprofessional of me. So Vic, are you ready to settle down one man for the rest of your life? You're committing yourself to one man for the rest of your life.

You're ready for this. I don't know. Yeah, but pretty much like Dr. Steve was like, hey, like if, uh, you know, any of your friends need a sugar daddy, like I'm in town, you know. That's right. That was the one tempting day. I was like, fuck. You know, you'll die soon. Yeah, right. It's like shit. What was I thinking? I have options. Well, you're disappointing a lot of the the listeners of who are these podcasts who saw the cow outfit and immediately fell in love.

And now Mr. Vicks taking you off the market. So that's disappointing. Will we still get some some photos coming through even after the marriage? Um, most likely I'm just waiting on Casey to set out a response, you know. That's true. I got to, I got to press your her a little bit more. I guess you got a paper and other plane ticket car. I'm not paying for any plane tickets. What are you talking about?

That's not me. Mr. Baker, you're going to be at the show. Yeah, I am. That's exciting. So have you ever actually listened to where these podcast we've heard? Never an entire episode now, okay. Uh, will you actually hang out? Are you just gonna get up and leave what are your plans? They'll hang out. I don't really know what I'm gonna do, but I guess I'm like some friends. You know what you're gonna do

You can fake laugh. That'd be nice Yeah, right just just take a cue for producer Chris Look at me in the crowd. I'll be smiling. I got you appreciate it Anything else you want to tell us about this blossoming relationship that we should all be excited about No, not really Well you came as prepared as I did for this interview so that's a one-star You fucking hyped it up. You're fucking asshole. You're like yeah, I'm gonna fucking get questions from people I'm gonna fucking ask him. Yes, like five fucking questions max Carl. I'm very proud of you. I know Vic

I had Mike Bodeon one of the biggest podcastes of the world so I Kind of prep for that a little bit more. All right my bad. I should have prepared a little bit more for that It's been a hell of a week. I mentioned that, yeah. Coming up at three hours. Producer Chris is ready to be done. You guys want to hear some voice mails real quick? Yeah, we'll listen to some voice mails.

All right, let's pile through it there. Hi, this is the blue cocky queen. And I'm just calling because I finally got to meet Kero's after the last show. And oh my god, you guys, he was so gentle when he came in my face. It didn't even get in my eye. He's so romantic. Bye, me. What's real man's like about that. It's just called a romantic. Bye. What's romantic about that?

It's just called a missing. Yeah. So this is that book I can queen from Rochester again, who called it. I got to find out who this person is. OK. I've produced a Christmas not. It's excited to find out.

All right. So here's a question for you. I didn't ask because I already saw the answer in the discord, but I should put it on the show. Do you ever have any communication with podcast hitman, Beck? No, unless like he texted me, but I don't know his number and he never like told me his name or anything, but I don't have any DMs or anything like that from him,

sadly, because I feel like that would have been interesting. Well, it's interesting because Casey had messages from his zip code, not zip code, area code. So maybe we should find out what the area code is and then you can do a little forensic work. Yeah, I'll have to talk to Casey, which if we compare dresses for the podcast of it, and I think everyone will be very happy.

Really? Yeah, because I didn't know what to wear because I'm a woman. So like shit, Casey, what are you wearing? I'm going to bring a fire hose to it. So I'm excited about this. I'm so glad. The plot.

All right. What's this person wants to talk about? Old guy is talking about hooking up with Tinder dates. I don't know if there's anything more pathetic than hearing 40 plus year old men tell people on the internet about their dating life. Like stuttering John or fucking Maddox telling about these clearly made up stories about how they're trying to get pussy from random nobody's in their 40's. First of all, anyone who's attracted to Stuttering John

or Maddox, non-attractive person. But I just don't wanna hear about you needing to scarf down boner pills, try to get it up for some random Tinder broad, fucking grow up. That's true. There were stories that went on between Maddox recently and Stuttering John that were these elaborate stories that were wildly unsuccessful of trying to hook up with bronze and made up and made up.

Why would you make up an unsuccessful hook up story? Even in their imagination, could you imagine these guys jerking off? They're like getting rejected in their fantasy? My granny's. I know I smell kind of bad, but if you just plug your nose go down Man, that's what I can fight it. You know what I miss penis. Oh No, this is kind of a funny one this guy's making fun of me Hey, hey, I'm calling you K because we're so cool. Hey, K play that clip. I can't believe you said that K

That's cringe That's cringe. All right, so I was calling Anthony Ant And people are calling me out for that. But why did you do that? Because he's my body and Why wouldn't I do that? You're good. You've talked to him like fucking three times call your So I'm trying to wheeze your fucking way in. I also texted with the clutch. Oh.

Oh. Come on after me a little bit. Alright. I see what happens. I opened up that door and that's what's going to happen. Hey guys, this guy's goofing on me. Yeah, it's because you're fucking suck you ass. Oh, like, okay, whoops.

Shouldn't have done that. Bandbrain is is guy called in but this is disappointing because his phone is cutting out and it just did not work i think he was overly enthusiastic even for band-brite this guy always got to see each other you should be banned that gonna be playing at the same, I'm gonna try to figure out what he just said. I think he just said he's coming to Chicago. Yeah, yeah, it's exciting. I can't wait to meet bad friends.

It's a guy. Is he gonna scream in your face at the same time? Should I do live voicemails? That's a hilarious. Holy shit. All right. Some people like the show we did last week, which is cool. Mr. Beck, check it out. If you get a chance, you might enjoy it. The part before the reviews. Mr. Beck, listen to our show, the opposite of everybody else. Let's get through all this boring shit. That's a good, good, good, good. Actually, you know, I listened to the one where she, uh,

where she co-hosted the whole thing. Oh, yeah, that was recently, yeah. It's about the only one though, I'm sorry. I thought you were gonna like, I have an opinion on it. I listened to it, yo, yo, what'd you think? I, uh, good. That's pretty much what it was. All right, fair enough. I'm liking this guy. I like your

fiance there, Beck. Yeah, you gotta keep the ego down. Growing on me. Maybe the next star on the show next to Doug from good times, great movies. Good company. Hey, Carl, this is Nick

from Tennessee. First time color. Just wanted to let you know that fucking killed it I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy.

I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy. and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the bigger range. I'm gonna need a percentile. A percent. He's top 60% top 60%. Okay. I would that tells me a little bit about how many x boy friends you got. Mr. Vic, do you know anything about VIX dating history? I think I know all of it actually. Oh, okay. Vic, right does he know all of it is pretty good so

But I'm ever just pretty good. It's does he know all of it Vic? Yeah, he knows all of it pretty much The pretty much kind of fucked up the whole thing That's awesome Boomer guy called in and I I'm not gonna play his entire voicemail But it did give us a quick station ID that I will play on here. Hey Carl it's W-A-T-P the worst show on the fucking airways man Why the hell are you even listening to this get something better to do with your fucking time?

You a fucking loser. Anyways, groomer guy. Oh, yeah, bigger or smaller than the mush mouth from Phil my heart. I never fucked that guy. God, you're bit. I've never touched him. All right. Carl, you motherfucker. Play the goddamn outro theme. You keep fucking skipping out of it. Oh, we're running too much time. But then you fucking have Casey on. I'm like, what the fuck? I wanna hear your resilient sound bites over, fucking the isotope theme song every week

because it caps off the thing. You know, it was just a fucking voicemail segment. It tells you to leave. It's great. It's like that now the show is over now fuck you! fuck you Carl! you fuck to the mother fucker! anyway kill yourself call me back. that got mean. that got me at the very end geez. all right last uh voice mail people in the discord you have questions for mr. vett get them in now. Home run, Kool Meyah. Home run.

Best episode ever. And I'm calling an L. P. J. Phileum is the next podcast hitman. Oh, geez, I hope that. Although it would be fun. You know, once things have settled down a little bit and we can be a little bit more lighter about it, more lighter. We can be a little more light about it. It would be fun.

I guess lighter is actually we can be lighter about it. It'd be fun to criticize some murder me. I'm like wasting his time. It's nice outside. If you find to find out who we think show regular wise, we'll be the next one. We should that is fun. Put a poll on for something that's going to kill who. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Right. That would be more lighter and more lighter Most people don't go three hours straight. There's a reason for that. I don't see anymore. Oh, yeah, Mr. Vick, do you want to have kids?

You guys open to start a family? Yeah, we're we want like two like tops. Okay. You can control that. So 50 50. Okay. I was gonna say I had to push her on the idea, but I think she's down to have kids now. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh bad start. Okay, very good. Well, Mr. Vick, it was great to meet you. Can't wait to see you in Lumbar, Illinois. Vick, go fuck yourself. Oh, you as well, Carl. All right. I'm excited to meet you. Yeah, and it's going to be, it's going to be a lot of fun.

We're going to have a blast. Do you drink, Mr. Vick? Very heavily. Oh, very good. Okay. It's a brilliant, of course, he does. What do they think? You're in good company. All right, yeah, we'll have fun then. All right. What's with the dancing around the shit? I think? You're in good company. We'll have fun then, all right.

What's with the dancing around the shit? I stink, you hate me. Great. Goodbye. I gotta go. Good bye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Oh, there it is, man. I got an opi segment. Hey, here we go. Brother Man. Brother Man. Brother Man. Ha ha. Bye-bye.