Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep402 - Maintenance Phase

Episode Date: April 16, 2023

Maintenance Phase is an extremely successful podcast about being fat and staying fat. Their goal is to prove that there's nothing unhealthy about overeating and not exercising. Apparently there's a huge audience for this. Literally huge. Both Dick Masterson and Dr. Steve join the show to discuss the three most offensive letters in alphabet - B, M, and I. Then Howard Stern talks about guys' penises a little bit too much and Patty C Cups roasts roast comics. https://thedickshow.com/ https://www.doctorsteve.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, Vic and Hannah pics, and watch live every Saturday and most Wednesdays: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And what are you guys? Good to see you, Couseroos. How you doing? Good to see you, Cazaroos. How you doing? Good to see you, man. I am awesome, awesome. Also, with us, a man whose sexuality is fluid. From Weird Medicine, it's Dr. Steve. Hello.

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We just did part 13 of easy for you to say. Yeah, which is a must listen John has a whole chapter just about Chelsea Handlers account. Yeah. Just. Oh, it's all about it with a surprise ending. Yeah. So, uh, you know, we want to check that out. And of course, Dick's down here, because we're celebrating a week from today. We'll be in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, doing a live Dick show. Who are these podcasts crossover?

Yeah, I wanted to get sick of you before we get there. That's why I wanted to do this episode. Right, I was gonna use up all my jokes today. What's speaking of jokes? What's up with that shirt? Are you a Boogelloo boy? Now what's going on? Is that a 3% dog whistle?

Is that what you're saying with that? Jesus Christ, we'll be roasting up. I would show. Oh, it's a rough shit around here. It's contagious. It's been to see you again, Dr. Steve. I would show. It's contagious. It's for the CEO again, Dr. Steve. I didn't even recognize you. Do you have some kind of like aging filter on?

No, I'm actually old. I'll kill my how old are you? I got to kill myself before I get that. Oh, I know. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm almost 68. Yeah, last time I saw you, we were at scores and I was making it rain because I just had to get rid of $100 because it was not my scene in there. But I like long, long story. I got to get released like money.

It's a bad. It just seems so smooth. Yeah. He's got all the hard in a strip club before ever. Also, we encourage our listeners to give us a five-star review on Apple podcasts or or every review podcast and then shittle over us in the comments section today. We'll be reviewing a show called Maintenance Phase. This was a suggestion from Daniel Ogburn.

We have both listened separately. We have not discussed it with each other beforehand. Let's get into what they show hosted by. Aubrey Gordon and Michael Hobbs. Aubrey is a very big woman. She wrote a book called, You Just Need to Lose Way and 19 other myths about fat people. She's one of these obese people who's very proud of her shape and lifestyle.

And we'll do anything to defend it. The irony of listening to this, while I'm like simultaneously wishing for a netty pot slash time machine to get coke out of my head. I'm like, this is like, this is really like making me angry that these two are just building up their addiction

and excusing it. And I'm just suffering for mine. Like this is, it really made me hate them more. Yeah, this is not a fun show to listen to when hungover. That I can certainly tell you. So I'm gonna start out with a clip here and the episode that I checked out I guess the medical community has upgraded the guidelines for obese children and that's what they're talking about here. Aubrey's already upset about this. I feel like I am like getting ready to be full of rage.

It's like a little propeller on your head that like I get to spin around when we do these episodes. And I get just imagine, and you're just gonna lift off on your seat. Just getting ready for lift up. So today we are talking about the American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines on the treatment of childhood obesity. So Aubrey's full of rage, tacos, and chips, candy bars. She marks the first time that she's full of anything. So let's get into these new guidelines.

I like that propeller hat. Like go go gadget, Comter, but it's like go go go go go go go go gadget, Comter. They released the last set of guidelines in 2007. The general approach for those was watchful waiting. If your kid is fat, they'll probably outgrow it. We don't need to do anything aggressive. This year in January, they updated the guidelines and recommended a much more aggressive approach. The thing that got the most media coverage

was the fact that they are now recommending weight loss drugs and bariatric surgery for kids as young as 12. All right, so I have Dr. Steve on here because I wanted to talk to you about some of these things that they're saying. Now, a full disclosure, since the pandemic, I've kind of been frowning upon the medical community a little bit there, Dr. Steve.

So I kind of think that this whole thing, we're like, let's change the guidelines where these kids have to get out of drugs and have surgery kind of helps the medical community because those things cost money. Well, okay, if I prescribe a drug, I don't make anything from it, but I do have make money off of the rechecks, but you're going to see those people anyway. You charge the same.

But the thing about this is, if you read the guidelines, which I did in the 20 minutes between the time you told me what episode we were doing, and now they're not recommending all they're doing is saying, if you do the lifestyle changes and you do the behavioral changes and all of these things, and that fails, and the kid is at high risk for having complications from their obesity. Then you can consider this stuff. And I find it interesting. I just wonder, and this is, I'm gonna get in trouble for this,

but I wonder if they're totally cool with gender assignment surgery, less than, you know, in 12-year-olds, but they're upset about, you know, bariatric surgery for a kid that's at risk of dying from their obesity down the road. Oh, you're just canceled over here, Dr. Steve. Come on, I'm just... I just...

Right into the trans-kid talk, right? Right in front of my big head. No, I just find it... I just wonder what their position is on that, because, you know, we're doing... It is invasive, absolutely invasive invasive but if you read the guidelines it is absolutely a last resort. All right. You see do you think that maybe a step after checking if their lifestyle changes happened checking if their diet changes happened the third step might be if that didn't work to call them a liar? That's actually pretty interesting

That's actually pretty interesting. And, you know, listen, I mean, you can't me on, I'm always a bummer, but if you, there is a thing called doubly labeled water, and if you take someone who is obese and they hate that word, but whatever you want to call it, they're fat. We have other words. Yeah, we do. We have all kinds of other words that we can use. But I think obese is probably the nicest one. But if you have someone with super obesity and you do this thing called doubly labeled water or what you could do is you tell them right down everything that you eat during the

day and estimate portions and all this stuff. And then when they give them the doubly labeled water, they can tell how many calories they actually took in. And the difference between the caloric, like you calculate from what their diaries said, they ate, well, they ate 1,100 calories. And what they actually did was like 13,000 calories. Yeah.

I mean, and so you just see that. As many beers I had yesterday My mother-in-law is morbidly obese and she says wow Lee one meal a day, but it starts at seven in the morning It ends at 11 o'clock at night and then in one day she's 20 50 She came to me once and said, I'm a new diet. I just eat jelly beans all day long. It's like, okay, well, it's so, so, you can call those people liars, but what it, scientifically, what we think is that they are just absolutely incapable of determining how much they're actually

taking in and that it's actually a brain. Oh, I'm sure that's one of the, yeah, yeah, yeah, me too, I have that. Why are you texting that girl? A fucking brain issue that I have. I don't know. That's not even me. Yeah, it may be a target for treatment down the road where we can re-re-ratch at those brain neurons to say, hey, this is not much you're actually eating, but anyway. I have one more clip, and then I'll let you take over, Dick, and figure out what you were listening to. But I think it's important that we get the trigger warnings

out of the way early on. First of all, this is going to include a lot of like, triggering, eating disorder, weight loss, calorie stuff. It's also going to include the word obesity a lot, which is not a word that either one of us like or use, but in the context of these studies, because they are exclusively based on BMI categories. They're upset with words like weight loss and calories, those are concerning words. I get it. I don't want anyone to say sobriety or alcohol free. Yeah. Well, and the thing is,

he is relative. .24 means a lot to a lot of different people. Okay, I'm a big guy. I'm a lot bigger than you. I know. I have anything to eat today. I know they don't like BMI, but the gold standard for measurement of body composition is a thing called dual energy X-ray absorbed geometry. We're not going to say that.

What? Obviously. Well, you guys. So the BMI. It's like a neutron star. You're bombarding them with sub-tomic articles to see how fat they are. Well, I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. jack cause. Yeah, it's it's very expensive and the BMI is correlated with that pretty well. So you can do Just do the BMI and for most people it will correlate with body fat. Now they're right. There are some people It doesn't but I think that's fun to do is Ex people

Google Google, X people. Google, uh, uh, whole body X ray image of an obese person and look at it compared to a person who is an obese. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's amazing what they're carrying around. So are they still gross, even in an X ray? I just love that we have a trillion dollar machine like in contact that we could put a fat person in and they would go Beep-boop beep-boop fat Like I feel like yes, we fucking got you you fucking get it Trillion dollars, but you are fat Yeah, you know when you see it busted all right deck. What do you got? A BMI does have limitations, but it correlates pretty well in most people.

No question about this. It's limited by three digits. That's the limitation of the MMI scale. Here's the intro to the show I have with a bunch of fat laughter. I wish I would have clipped all the fat laughter out of this one. Here we go.

Welcome to maintenance phase, the podcast that doesn't talk about myths when we talk about fat. Okay. I'm trying to blend your first book and your second book. My two mouthfuls of titles. They love that one. Mouthfuls, puns, anything unrelated to that. They have a trick rig.

Right? Isn't this the case? That's okay. End words for black people. They're like, we can say it. We can make jokes to that. They have a trick rig. Right? Because isn't that the end word for black people? They're like, we can say it. We can make sure. Yeah, we can say mouthfuls. That's exciting. Here is. Here's the. We have like. Oh, God. Sorry. Okay. Here is they're they have like a war against calories in calories out. I don't know why this. That's what this chapter about why the BMI sucks and there's a chapter about why calories in calories out sucks. Okay, but here's the point of the book here here.

Here's the point of the book by from our fans. Okay, I know you made this whole like whatever, three hour arc about the BMI and the obesity epidemic, But can you give me five pages that I can hand to my doc? Yeah. Yeah. Or can you give me, you know, like a little packet that I can give to my family to tell them why they need to lay off my little brother about his side? Yeah, I can give you a thousand studies that show why this is important. But anyway, go ahead. They want like a pamphlet they can go into their doctor with. So they'll stop. That'll go over real-world.

Wait, that goes over really well when you come in and you confront your doctor and say, you know, everything that all your science stuff is bullshit, you can find people that'll go along with that and they will take your money. But, you know, Wait a second, Dr. Steve, what if someone has a permission slip? Exactly. What an exciting part of it.

It's all, right? I got this permission slip. It came with a book that I have myths about fat eating. And I think you'll agree that this all checks out. It's from a lady online. It's a lady who weighs 500 pounds. She seems to know what she's talking about. If they read this thing, it actually has hold sections on weight bias and how physicians shouldn't talk about that. They talk about that. Yeah, okay.

All right. It's not good enough. Actually, this is kind of fun. It's not good enough. Actually, this is kind of fun. It's not good enough. This is kind of fun. It's not good enough.

Actually, this is kind of fun. It's not good enough. Actually, this is kind of fun. It's not good enough. It's not good enough. Actually, this is kind of fun. It's not good enough. Yada Yada over the health concerns. So then we have a couple paragraphs about health stuff. It's like, time to die, Beatty's blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm not going to read this stuff because we've all read these paragraphs a million times. So the most important elements are there. So again, time to die, Beatty's Yada Yada hard to see is whatever. Lose your foot.

Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever we've all heard this week for. And then check out this clip right here because I think Dr. C. but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. We've already seen more. And then check out this clip right here, because I think Dr. C, if you might have an issue with us. This kind of rhetoric of sort of like, it's for your health is the thing that you sort of

shout out loud and then quietly into your research papers, say, we didn't look at anything about health. Yeah, we're. Is how we get this like, wild difference in public opinion between sort of like what people think is the issue with fatness and what researchers are even outlining as the issue with that they drop dead and that's like a way that people die. Dr. Steven is just right. Yeah. You know, it's still a fat 80 year olds, right? Because they all went off to like a fat utopia where they live happily. Right. That's a good point.

Very good point. Yeah. I mean, childhood obesity and adolescence associated with bad psychological and emotional health, stress, depress symptoms, low self-esteem, and then that's just the psychological stuff. There's Type 2 diabetes, hypertension, metabolic syndrome is the thing that we worry about that causes heart attacks and stroke down the line and increases mortality and decreases lifespan. That's what they're trying to do.

This document is actually pretty woke in the sense that it talks about equity and racial disparity and stuff like that. I would think that people would look at this and say, hey, they really tried to be very inclusive and all that stuff. I have a clip right here, Dr. Steve, is an exaggerate you're talking about.

But as far as like, acknowledging everything that we say on this show, this document is pretty good. Like right after this little excerpt that we read, there's a long section on racism, there's a long section on toxic stress and minority stress, and then there's a section on weight stigma. Why the fuck?

This is about childhood obesity and there's a long section about racism in there. What? Let me go to the racism section and see what they were talking about. I'd rather not. Okay. I'm not a racism anymore. Seriously. I think what it is is that obese kids of color had increased stress and harassment compared

to non-kids of color. That's what they were talking about. I mean, they really tried to do that to please these people, but they use the old word and oh my god. Well, it's funny to say that because they see right through it and they think it's just lip service. They will say all of these things, but then do nothing with them. Lip service, lip service, lip service.

And unfortunately, the lip service is pretty fucking good. But lip service is like, yeah, you're saying all the stuff that we've been wanting you to say, but we would also like you to do something about it. Well, I don't think- Dude, what? Yeah, I know what that is. What are you gonna do? You're gonna solve racism?

What do you want them to do? You're not gonna get an anatomy of pediatrician. Yeah. You want to paint black fat kids orange so they don't get hit by a bus? What are you talking about? That's one solution. It's speaking of solutions.

Yeah, the bullying of fat kids is really a problem, which is why we need to eliminate fat kids and make them all thin. We're like, I don't think that's the solution. Yeah, it actually is. It's actually one of the solutions. If they're gonna be like a magic pill that makes fat people skinny,

and they're gonna be like, this is like fat or rate. Like you're giving up your culture and eliminating. Yeah, what a word. I eliminated eliminating. I like that idea though. Yeah. Where it's like, I can be like, yeah, I can get braces and fix my teeth, but people just just shut up about it instead. Just stop bullying me. I've got this, this myth that they go into. It takes up a lot of the podcasts where they're really like, they're really bitter about, they're really sensitive about their food addiction coming from an emotional place. Here's the setup. This is myth number nine. Fat people are emotionally damaged and cope by eating their feeling.

Okay, so then here's the, I, here's the punchline of it. That did not feel that way to Dr. Feliti. It's so weird to me. He asked this patient sort of what happened. As they were talking, she said that a coworker had expressed interest in sleeping with her and that really flipped her out. She disclosed also that she had a long history of childhood sexual abuse. Okay. Well, I guess why would that be? Why would people think that eating would be a cover?

This is the kind part of it, right? Like, well, you eat because you got emotional trauma, right? How dare you? How dare you suggest something like that? And then here's even one of the hosts. Put her two cents in, for two pounds in on the, on the, on the, where have you heard it the most? Are there sort of like common sources of it in your life? Actually, the main source of it is my mom. Mm.

One of her main struggles was emotional eating. All right. So for me, that actually became like one of the templates that I used to understand fatness when I was younger. And like my mom was the only person who I had ever heard talk about fatness. Okay, so this is the myth that they're emotionally damaged. Yeah, I don't even know anybody like that.

Well, except for like my mom, yeah, some people in my immediate family. Otherwise, I don't know anything about that, can't be true. Except for like my image of God, like my mother who I like learned everything from, like, you know, and I don't know this example where somebody was raped, is it just like a stupid myth that

chud say to each other so they can make us feel worse about ourselves, like we're damaged. Here is the takeaway that they had from reading this research paper that you were checking out, Dr. Steve. Right. The prevalence of childhood obesity has gone from 5% in 1963 to 19% in 2017. This is something I've only started noticing once I started doing the show with you, they

often note that the baseline is not 0%. So there's presumably always some number of kids who are just fat. Well, that's the takeaway there. It's quadrupled. That's the problem. He's like, yeah, it was never zero. Well, good for you. Yeah, all right.

You're winning? Yeah. All right. So one quarter of the kids who are obese in 2017 would have been obese in 1963. All right. Well, they won't be happy until it's zero. one quarter of the kids who are obese in 2017 would have been obese in 1963. All right. Well, they won't be happy until it's zero. These bullies, I know.

These are shrimp loving chugged. They won't be happy until none of us exist anymore. Like, well, just thin. That's all. Here's another fun example of, so they're talking about people gaining weight during the pandemic. The COVID-19 pandemic has significantly affected the lives and routines of children and adolescents. In one analysis, the pandemic period was associated with a doubling in the rate of BMI increase compared to the pre-pandemic period. And I was like, a doubling in the rate of BMI increase.

Oh, is it like three quarters of a pound or some shit? No, it's basically during the first nine months of the pandemic. Yeah, quote unquote, normal weight kids. Gained three pounds and fat kids gained six pounds. Okay, I mean, is that noteworthy fine, but also like, do I really give a shit about like three extra pounds? That's out. I think they're missing the points. Yeah.

That's how three pounds. You get the shit out of the way. You fat bitch. It was a skinny kid's game three pounds. The fat one's game six. Well, think about that though, deck of it's three pounds. There's 20 million skinny kids. That's 60 million pounds.

It's enough. That's pretty easy to deal with. That's a lot of weight. People put on. But they dismiss it. We all fucking gained weight in the pandemic. Surely, if there's one time where everyone could just gain some weight and everyone else could shut the fuck up about it, it's the pandemic.

And also, no one could shut up about it. Absolutely nobody could shut up about it. But they weigh three more pounds. I'm like, but they're alive. It's a research paper. That's what's a shut up about it. I know those are facts, but give to yourself. Please. What is, but they're alive, man.

I got a game three pounds, but they're alive. Were they gonna die? If they had to game these three pounds, I don't know. Yeah. Were they putting on winter weight or something? I can't make any sense of this thing. They're very upset about something. I'm not even

sure what it is. Like you said, Dr. Steve, this is a very woke paper. It talks about how one of the biggest problems with being obese of the child is getting picked out and having low self esteem. Correct. So that was the only thing if there were no health concerns. That would be reason enough to maybe get in a shape, I would think. Totally agree. They do, you know, the paper even talks about that if you do self-directed dieting because of peer pressure, that that increases your risk of, you know, yo-yo dieting where, you know, your weight goes up and down, but what they're recommending is a structured program

that goes on for some time where the kids come in and they have motivational interviewing and there's a lot of different things. And what studies have shown is that even six years after treatment, they don't have bulimia, they don't have as much emotional eating or binge eating or the drive for thinness. They don't have that. It just normalizes them. That's what they're proposing in this paper. And I think it's reasonable approach,

be honest with you. I don't know. I just thought what was reasonable was when they said before these guidelines, what pediatric guidelines were, we're just like, yeah, maybe they'll get skinny later. I'm just just keep an eye on the candidate. Leave it for the internist to deal with.

Yeah, all right. That's even a little bit for the guy at the base. What were they talking about on the episode? You checked out, deck. Let me see. I got I got many more emotional reasons to eat. Oh, yeah. Okay. So they talk about, they talk about like a crash diet system that this doctor had. Let me, let me play one of these for you. And why it didn't work. This is whole show about eating. I mean, there's a different episode. And they're still talking about eating.

Well, they're fat. That doctor's team, we're not thinking to talk about sports. Yeah. I'm getting hungry too. What's your favorite baseball team? Should I be the best at chips? Yeah. Are all your episodes about medicine, Dr. Steve?

Okay, fair, fair, fair. Okay, I'll shut the fuck up. What do you think there? What else are they doing? I don't know. Your doctor who was sort of in charge of your weight loss sees you and has some expression on his face or says something awful. And then you've got to explain that like, oh, right, I wasn't starving myself anymore.

Yeah. I started eating food like a human. I was eating. This is why they got fat again after the treatment, right? Because I was eating again like a human here. So they got skinny and then they got hugely fat again. All right. Here's their take on that. Okay. Go ahead. There you go. With these fucking programs, I never know. Like, what did you expect to happen? Of course, when somebody eats like one fifth of what you need to live, they wait. And of course, when they go back to eating normal amounts of food, they return to their previous size. I don't. Normal amounts of food, they return to their previous size. I don't. Normal amounts of food. Right. So you go with one fifth of what you need to live,

which you still alive. So obviously not. But then what do you expect to happen? Yeah. Good for you. When you've no back eating normal amounts of food. This is what that in fit of fat woman, Ash always says is she goes dieting is bullshit, because 98% of diets, the people put their weight back on them, like, well, yeah, it's because they're fucking up. It's because they're doing it right. It's not the diet, it's bad, it's just the bad of diet. They just stop, they get in a quid.

What do you expect me to eat less food than I want to eat all the time forever? Yeah, kind of. I mean, kind of. Four to five helpings. That's it. For everyone who's ever had their beers counted, yes, that is what everyone wants.

So Aubrey Gordon is an author. She's written a couple of books, as we mentioned here. She's been featured in the New York Times. But I bet you didn't know, because I do the deep research, that she's also an actor, and I actually grabbed something from her acting real right here. Oh, just

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Right. Like, like, like, did you think it through even a little bit? Like, I can't be, I can't be proper. I was just saying have trouble, and they're not a difference to anything. You know, very ill fine, I got put into that. That brain. Okay. We then get to the section that you've been waiting for, Aubrey, where they talk about the use of the BMI as a screening and diagnosis. No. Oh, I love the

guy is right there and so Dr. Stade advocate for dual x-ray absorbed geometry and that's not that I have

cast. I know. You're the first person I've heard say that. So we talked about this when we were in Nashville Steve and you came on to talk about ash and they were complaining about physicians and physicians told them not to eat as much, or they want to get them on a scale and weigh them.

And this is a huge problem. One of the most common stigmatizing experiences that fat people report in the doctor's office is being lectured about weight loss before or even in the absence of talking about Whatever symptoms or concerns brought them in to begin with and That has been and continues to be the prevailing Instruction given to medical students and it's now baked into our insurance system such that if doctors want to be paid for their work They are required to report not only the patient's BMI But also that they were counseled on weight loss that is required in order to get paid for your work as a health care provider

That is Nannas to me that like medical institutions right now today are deciding to ignore or refusing to engage with this thing that is like very popularly discussed as being very terrible and a reason to avoid care. That is chocolate covered bananas. They're using BMI and then luxurring. Big trade in. No, we, listen, there are ways to approach folks when they come in.

Somebody with cancer comes in, but they, they want to talk about influenza. Stop having cancer stupid. Yeah. It cuts down on cancer. It's like what cancer going on. So I think if that's happening, it's bullshit, I don't disagree with them on that,

that that's bullshit, it's not a good way to approach this if you're gonna be off-putting, but this value-based stuff that they're talking about, we get paid if they come in and we just treat their influenza or whatever it is. You know, you get paid for the office visit. What they're talking about is this thing

called value- based compensation, where you have a large group of physicians and you try to get the amount of diabetes down and the amount of obesity down to promote health in the community. And when you do that, then yes, you could get a bump in the compensation of the year. The insurance company come to you and go, yeah, but did you lecture her about OBSB? You're gonna have to do that next time, Dr. we're gonna need to just lecture these people, come back.

Why do insurance companies do that? Because they do actuaries and they know that people who are in that super obese category have more utilization of services because they tend to have more medical problems. Now, you're part of the system. I see. That's the experience.

I see. But that's why the insurance companies promote that. Well, now listen, the insurance companies do it so they can make more money. There's no question about that. But the value-based stuff. Yeah, Carl and I care about them. The fact people. That's why we're not getting paid for this. Exactly.

Trying to get them to lose weight. Fair enough. I'm worried about their half-doctor Steve. Yeah, I want producer Chris to be around a lot of conflict of interest. The insurance companies have a conflict of interest. You do not. So you're doing a service. That's correct. Here's, uh, Here's another kind of prejudice that fat people endure from my show. Here you go. I went to pick up my kid from school and other kids were making fun of him for having a fat mom and I'm not going to do that to my kid. Or my boss told me that he doesn't think I can physically do this job unless I prove to him that I can physically do that job. And for him, that means me being thinner.

Look at that job, V. I wonder, like watching a buffet. I don't think you could do this job without eating the whole. I'm like, no, I could do it. I'm wrong. You have to demonstrate that you can do it. Yeah. It's usually some of the true of any job. Yeah.

Staying around. I don't think this job requires you to walk up those stairs. I don't think you could do that. Yeah, that's usually something that's true of any job. Yeah. Yeah. Stand around. I don't think this job requires you to walk up those stairs. I don't think you can do that physically. Why? Because I'm not skimming. Yeah. Yeah. See, if you're going to be a security officer, we're going to need you to be security for the first floor and the second floor. So I think that's where the problem is. It's going to be very difficult. All right. So let's find out how should you talk to a patient who's a little overweight or wildly overweight like this woman? The first tip is ask permission to discuss the patient's BMI and or weight.

Number two, use words that are perceived as neutral by parents, adolescents, and children. Oh god. Avoid labeling by using person first language. No! I know. Child with obesity, not obese child, or my patient is affected by obesity, not my patient is obese. Preferred words include unhealthy weight, gaining too much weight for age, and then there's a Spanish phrase which I'm not going to try to pronounce. That means too much weight for his or her health. Do you know what that is?

Steve, that's another hell. I have no idea. He's a her health. Or detailed. We call her before you go into the talk. I don't know. I don't know. Recognize that discussing BMI with children, adolescents, and families, even when using non-stigmatizing

language and preferred terms, can elicit strong emotional responses. It was Burrito Grande is the term. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum. I'm not going to be a funny, the calcum.

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Oh my God. So listen, listen, listen. Thoughts. Oh Jesus. So you can't win with this because now they're trying to change the language, Steve, so these people don't get offended, but then they're offended by that.

They're offended by that. So that's what I don't understand. They're actually offended by this. Yes. I mean, look, yeah, we're trying not to say this patient is diabetic, it's a patient with diabetes. They're not alcohol like they're a patient with substance abuse. That's a great time.

How are you fucking dare you? Right. Who's a lot of stress and pressure. So I don't know what they say. Do they say what they want us to say? No, they can't ever figure out the right thing because that would mean they have to start losing weight. Like if you figured out the correct way to call them fat, they would say, okay, that was the correct way. Now I'm going to lose 80 pounds.

Fair. Fair. And why do they prefer fat That's like flat earth earth. Fatness over obesity, the terms. Fatness, I think, so we came up with to be funny. And obesity is obviously clinical. Well, and Vinnie's got a bit in his standup. We just saw Anthony Jusson that last night,

and Vinnie was hosting the show. And he talks about how they want to change it to person of size. It's like, I'm not a POS, why are you calling me a real S? That's not good. Well, there's this thing called the euphemism treadmill. And so words like idiot used to actually be a medical term and then it got, you know, co-opted by the public

and you know, you're a fucking idiot and now we can't use that as a medical term anymore. You're fucking idiot! Yeah! You're right, it's coming from one to the doctor. But more on retard all those things were at one point, medical terms that were accepted. So now, obesity is falling into the euphemism treadmill somehow. But people are choosing to be offended by that and people don't go, you're obese.

You know, they say you're a fat ass or something. I don't ever use it pejoratively. People don't go, you're obese. You know, they say you're a fat ass or something. I don't ever use it pejoratively. I don't understand this. That's what happened to the F slur too. You used to go into the doctor and say, well, you're a fat ass. Sorry. I'm going to see if that was a medical term. I'm going to see if there's younger people that don't believe you, but. I remember it.

There was, there was, I remember it. In the 80s. All right, I have a clip on here from a different episode. And I think they're doing Patreon wrong. You can subscribe at Patreon or at Apple Podcasts. They're the same audio.

Audio. So wait, if you go to Patreon, where you pay for it? You get nothing. You get the same thing you get from Apple. So I went to their Patreon. Did anybody check these guys' Patreon? No. No. Okay, get ready for this.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. This is not many subscribers. They have paid subscribers, $3 to lowest level. 44,783. Oh, for fuck's sake. They must be making, they're one of the biggest shows on Patreon. I don83. Oh, for fuck's sake. They must be making they're one of the biggest shows I've had. I don't Dude, if I take back everything I ever said about fat people now. I'm doing a fat positivity show I'm just gonna replace in my mind alcohol with food and talk about it like that. Can I co-host?

Yes, I keep calling me fat these assholes This is healthy for me. God pulls me over because I'm eating a sandwich. Fucking assholes. That's just pig. Probably got nothing to do running my plates for fucking no reason. Oh, they go through my bag eating. They phone on my twinkies. I had in my bag.

Kapitias. Like he doesn't go home and eat a big bowl of popcorn and beat his wife. Yeah, right. I Think we could pull this off I think we're a little more practice. We could do it. We could be I'd like to retract everything I've set up Jesus We're good for them. Yeah, good for them. We're doing they're doing very well Here's here's their take on child abuse. I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe a topic for discussion. Here you go.

At very young ages, like five, six, seven, their parents would place padlocks on the refrigerator or cupboard doors so that they could not access food. Yeah, that's abuse. Abuse. Abuse. I don't know if you, if stopping your kid

from just unlimited eating is abuse. That's thrifty. My, my ma be to put the cookies on my, I couldn't know if you if stopping your kid from just unlimited eating is it abuse? Thrifty. My my ma be to put the cookies on the I couldn't reach them. That was very abusive. I've heard to do that. I wanted those cookies. The funny still sewer. I hope.

That's really my captives playboys under his bed abuse. Abuse. Yeah. I wanted to get in there and beat off to them. Yeah. Leave them out locked in love. Just don't buy this stuff. Still have it. Yeah, I just don't have it.

Your house. Well, here's another gem from this one. I don't know. Maybe get your thoughts on this one, guys. There is an expectation that fat people owe everyone else an explanation for why we are the size that we are. That's a really good point. And if your explanation meets muster, which it won't, then I'll leave you alone. We all know. No, I know.

I don't think that's the right thing. I'm like, what are you training for a marathon? Why does your body look like that? I've never confused my it's. Oh, oh, so you're a great big fat person, huh? Why? Why is hot shot? Why are you so fat?

I'm afraid that doesn't meet the muster. I think she was thinking of mustard. Yeah. You didn't want to say it. I don't want to say mustard on my own, Charles. By the way, Aubrey seems like she'd be a real treat to be friends with. Oh. Like I've been yelling at my friends

about the stuff that I have been learning, non-stop to the point that they are tired of it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're annoying. Take long. And fat. Defending being fat takes so much fucking energy and she doesn't have a lot of energy to begin with.

Yeah, it's not like to her entire lifestyle is to say that it's okay for my lifestyle to be this way. I just what other. They should have a fat debate club where all they do is debate like fat positivity topics and all both teams are fatter than hell, you know, I would watch that. Yeah, we better than like a rap battle or a rose battle. That'd be fantastic. Here's, they're using science to explain like they have like a vendetta against like thin

white women. I don't know why they go out of their way to call white women out. This is a two-parter. Here's the first part. White women who participated in this practice that they call body surveillance, which is essentially like close monitoring of the appearance of your own body. Okay. And what they found was that those white women who engaged in body surveillance were hyper focused on the look of their own body, who held anti-fat stereotypes, who held anti-fat beliefs,, experienced body satisfaction in themselves.

Can you believe that? I know. The waiter, these, these goddamn white women, you know, who are paying attention to their own bodies and how they look experienced, wait for it, more body satisfaction. You know, go figure. And they also enjoy wearing bikinis a lot more. And their popular Instagram, I get figured out. No one calls them a big fat whale. And they accidentally put their wrist in a picture on Instagram. Here's the here's their explanation for it.

They were literally looking at fat people and going, I feel better because I'm not that fat. So it's just like self-sushing by being around people bigger than you and be like, at least I'm not a hunker. Not really. Absolutely. You. This is all coming from emotionally, like a pretty similar well spring, right? Of just like, when I look at people who are fatter than me, I feel better about myself.

So they're the sick ones. The white women who are paying attention to their body are the sick ones because for somehow projectedly they're looking at fat people going, oh, at least I'm not those big fat pigs. Like, there's nothing you do with just being hot. That's why we hang out with the Vitty. That's the exact reason. Is it wrong with the hats? You got to have one front of drinks more than you and one front is better than you.

That's how you get through life. There are several scientific studies on body surveillance. There's one on body surveillance on Instagram. Okay. It's from the journal Sex Role, examining the role of selfie feedback, investment in young adult women's body image concerns. And what they found was that women who reported higher investment in selfie feedback. In other words, they put their selfies up there and people went, ah, you're, you're,

you're fat or, you know, your tits are too small or whatever. More likely to express body dissatisfaction and drive for thinness through the indirect influence of body surveillance. So just don't post on Instagram. Jesus Christ That's an easy one, right? That's good advice all the time. Yeah, you're You know when you post pictures on Instagram people like you look like you have a small dick, you know You know when you post pictures on Instagram people like you look like you have a small dick, you know I'm just fucking brutal out there Well people remain

This was an interesting thing that Aubrey says so listen I had a coworker at one point who described me as having a two drink personality That's good No personality. That's good. No. A two drink personality. Like I've heard of talking about like you see growing to go, how many beers would it take? You know, but just to hang out with this person, you have to have two drinks. That's a good amount. The personality sucks that bad. You can't be sober around this person. Have a few drinks before you show up with this one, cheese. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. It's all we're gonna be there. Yeah, yeah, you might want to have some stuff loaded. Drinking the parking lot, we're all gonna be out there with a cube of chocolate. Gotta tell Gabe we were hanging out. Oh, then there's this fun little ice that I got. Please clap. Oh, everybody's doing another guy little ice that I got. Please clap.

Oh, everybody's doing another guy. He's another. He's another. Please clap. Please clap. All right. That's just for me. Here's the other men that they busted was glorifying obesity.

Here's the intro to that one. It also feels like really weird on a couple of fronts. One, nobody really defines at any point what it means to glorify obesity. Right. There's this total floating signifier that sounds really damning and people can just reach up into the ether and grab it and pull it down and apply it to whatever they want, slap that on whatever they want. Glorifying something means publicly praising it. Yeah, that's a show.

Like real women have curves and healthy at any size. Yeah, it was all star wars. Yeah. Let's say Lizzo's big fat ass playing a flute singing about how fat she is to a bunch of fat black women. I can't have no one's ever defined it properly. Carl, no one can give you an explanation of what glorifying obesity is. A big fat woman on a gatorade ad selling you, you know sports illustrator, swimsuit edition, that suit edition. Yeah. Right. Auto mystery.

No idea. Here is, and here is, you know, they wish that they would live in a world where we did glorify the obi stream. Right. I would fucking love if we publicly praised some fat people some more. If only we had one fat woman. That we would praise. Right, right, right.

Just one The parks Never been to an opera because I think that she'd be so excited about Because this woman's coming out. This is amazing. Yeah, you can't believe until the fat ladies sing Yeah, absolutely right. We have tons of fat celebrities If we're gonna use that word. Better we tons. Yeah, we're the stats on that.

I'm looking at a list of fat celebrities and they actually list Kathleen Turner on there. That's sort of unfortunate. How about rewriting medical documents to not offend fat people? Like is that glorifying obesity? Good points. Good point. All right, anything else that you have Dick that you glorifying obesity? Good points. Good point.

All right, anything else that you have, Dick, that you wanted to play? I don't think so. I think I have one more, they get very excited when there's paintings of fat people. This gets them very excited. Remember when I went to that museum in Amsterdam and I kept texting you with the paintings of fat people?

Yes! It's like, I'll really look. Look at all these things. It's like another painting of a fat person. This is great. Yeah. I guess I don't have that much fun in museums. Yeah. That's that's exciting to me. Good for him. What does Michael Hobbs is deal? By the way, does anyone figure that out? Cause he's a normal guy seemingly who's on the show with this truck talking about obesity for some reason. I guess he likes.

Here's Brosnan. No. Oh, Jesus. Oh, wait, here. Okay, here. I do have this one. They're talking about how people with trauma, maybe they don't need to lose weight. I don't know. Let me see if this is good. For Dr. Felidi, this was not evidence of like, hey, maybe my clinic is built on a foundation of sand. Right. Like, maybe this lady doesn't need to lose weight. She does. No matter why, no matter what the reason is, why she's fat. Yeah, you do. Yeah, she does. She doesn't need to. Don't care if it's for whatever happened to her. It's just time to lose some weight. Isn't it interesting?

They bring up the COVID pandemic. But don't talk about the fact that obesity was one of the major issues in complications for COVID. I mean, this was the one Joe Rogan, I think it was the only person on the fucking planet who was saying, hey, maybe we should do is exercise and work out, get the shape. Yeah. Yeah.

So many of my patients that were under 65 that got the, you know, Paxlevitt or Molna Purivir or other treatments got it because they were, had a BMI of greater than 35. Oh, he said the BMI work out. Oh, Steve! Oh, no. So offensive. Is that like the nights who say need and go to Comic Con? If there's a big line for food, you go,

BMI, BMI. Oh, no, no, no. I'll try it. It's very effective. I'll try it with Vito and Philly. This is what we're going to do with the Lajjo. BMI. Oh, god.

Oh, no. I'll try it with Vito and Philly. That's what we got to do with the live show. Me and I. Oh, God. Oh, all right. Anything else you guys want to hit from this show, maintenance phase? No, thank you. I might have this one. I'll go to a tour.

Yeah. Yeah. For folks who experience childhood abuse, it's much easier to believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with you that you need to fix in order to be accepted by other people. And my guess is that that includes weight loss, right? Mm. Oh, okay. I don't think that's the reason why people want them to lose weight.

Right. So it'll be accepted. It's like it's, it seems like it sucks. Right. Yes. That's how it sucks. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Come here with excuses to miss Jim Class. Get spuck and tedious. Yeah.

I got home. I don't really like always like drinking. Just like I do it all the time. I'm in the mid. All right. We should accept everyone as they are, but we should also promote health. So there you go.

That's my disclaimer. Okay. And then how do you feel about black people, Dr. Steve? You want to go on rock, you need to do that. We should accept everyone and promote health. Thank you. I got an endorsement from one Donald J. Trump, I'm very excited about. I, Donald J. Trump, here by endorse Carl Hamburger from Who Are These Podcasts for the

Office of Most Savage Clubfooted Motherfucker on the Planet. Many people are saying that his takes on Stuttering John are hot, and that his insight into the psyche of Greg Opie Hughes is second only to that of legendary radio personality Anthony Kumia himself. Oh my god. Oh, thank you. Mr. Trump. That shit's getting way too good. Did you hear the one I played last episode where it was me? Someone made an AI voice of me talking about raping children. It was quite disturbing. The same guy who sent me that one, actually the Donald Trump one sent that nonsense to me as well. Let me see if I can...

What is sick of? Yeah, I'm not going to define it. I don't know how I had these things organized in my email. That's okay. I can imagine you saying you're a rich and children. You could probably imagine that. You wanted that. Everyone just imagine it.

It's the same. Guys, I want to quickly pivot to some Howard Stern stuff. If you guys have Steve, if you want to hang out for a minute. Absolutely. All right, cool. Because my buddy Mike listens to Howard Stern and he was shooting me notes this week. He's like, oh, there's some things that you might want to check out. Nick Cannon was on the Howard Stern show.

And Dick, I don't know how you feel about Howard Stern. I'm pretty convinced at this point that he's a gay man. Oh, I never would have thought that before, but there's always been rumors with him and Ralph. And I guess Ralph failed a lie detector test about being gay. So it's very odd. Now, I've heard a lot of guests on your show, the Dixia, I've heard a lot of guests on weird medicine.

I've never heard you guys talk about how big someone's penis is. It seems like an odd thing for guys to talk about. But how are sternum seem to be obsessed with it? Yeah, I'm not telling anything out of school. Nick's got nine inches, right? Oh, man. Oh, man.

Why do we got to like, well, it's important to say, trying to be on a high frequency talk about the daily canyon. No, no, no. How are you doing in general, where a condom? What the fuck is that hair? Oh, I know. That wig is brutal.

It's like a Howard's wig. Where a condom what the fuck is that hair? Oh, I know that big is brutal Barbara Walters dad and she gave her hair Oh, is that that's a filter oh She's fine she's lost She's lost a bunch of weight. She's doing great. She looks good. Let's get forward to that. Get his take out. Oh, all right.

So now they're talking about Nick wearing condoms. Because as you know, Nick Cannon has like 10 kids or something like that. He's got a lot of a lot of children. Condoms eventually go away. And so for me, not for everyone, I know. Wait a second. So once the comms go, you come inside the woman, right?

You don't pull out. Well, then you got to get your pull out game together. And then you, what you don't have, that's it. Yeah, yeah. You do not have pull out game. Everyone says that about you. I can't pull out of a driveway. Well, you know, Nick once said to me, and I don't think I'm telling anything out of school

again. We were talking about it, but we were talking on America's Got Talent. You know, this behind the scenes, and I was asking him for some advice. And I said, what's with condoms? And he says, you know, look, I don't know about you. My problem is they don't fit. They're not really tight around my penis. And it's so big and thick. I said, well, I don't have that. Mine fall off.

What is your target? Regular guy talk. Yeah. It's just so big and thick. Yeah. Why is that cannon wearing like a tiger uppercut headdress? What is that thing that he has on? That's an inch of my mind. That's not. Wow. Those books that he read after he was all anti-semitic really messed them up, I think. He's crazy about his brains.

I think you're right. So if it was just like a one off thing or how would me to joke about Nick Cannon have nine inches fine But this conversation goes out of that's another talking about how Nick can and doesn't have a good job of pulling out Obviously and Howard is a reason for that Nick You know what my problem is you know, I'm only I'm four inches I'll be honest about it and when I pull out it's quick It's no problem pulling out you you got nine inches. It's like pulling out a garden hose out of that thing You know, I mean you that's why you're not good at it. You got nine inches. It's like pulling out a garden hose out of that thing, you know, I mean you that's why you're not good

You got two months in time takes a week to pull out It's amazing Your big thick Meadiness I know you think talking about a sex with a girl, but you wouldn't even know that by the way He's talking What's it like? Pulling out of whatever you. Celebrities. It's like the Japanese people in South Park with the way how turn cases celebrities ass always like, Oh, you huge American penis. That's what we talk about. Like God, man, fuck you. So then Nick's talking about a time

when he was celibate, I guess he was engaged to a Christian woman. And so they were saving themselves. And of course, Howard wants to know all about if him got erections all the time. And this is happening. But I mean, Chubby, like, well, you that was the long ago. I don't know, because I was very, I was, that was younger than two. So, yeah. So, you know, you wake up and you had attention type of thing, but it's well, you know, you get that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no guess I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with chic soaked and come and it's never happened one time

I've never had one because I was just beating off just you know constantly. Are you a border guy? I'd beat off with a silk full-ard that I used for my magic act that I used for my magic act. It's a true story. It's a cult. Oh, Lord, what the fuck is that? Yeah, a full-ard is like, I don't have a cock magic drop, sorry. I'm trying to silk a napkin and you would do a trick called the zombie ball or the zombie ball would float in the hand.

Oh, yeah, you make this apparent stuff. But it was really good for masturbating when you're like 13 years old. Silk, no, man, it's going to get all wet. Oh, does it need to be crossy to pull off the trick? Is that why you were joking off and doing it? My mom caught me one day and she just stormed out of the room and went do something productive Give me my scarf Would you do like kids magic shows after speeding works? I was the Jesus Christ.

The greatest a stay bond. That was my magic. I buy the way kids aren't going to be the same as stay bond and his one eye zombie balls. You guys are laughing at Steve. He's going to get booked out Howard Stern next week. I hear about this. He's going to want to talk to you all about your master, Victoria Habits.

Yeah. I'm magic, but didn't it cause you pain? I'm in there. When you're behind you, I'm sure you're joking. Yeah. That scarred you for life. Yeah, I'm the only person I know. Your mom, hotter was she like, oh man.

Oh yeah, she was. She had, she had big giant tits and a little ways. I've kind of been now. Yeah, fixing it on that body. Oh my life. So obviously I had mommy issues. I would too. Was she a popular girl?

She had a lot of boyfriends and stuff? Yeah, well, this was back in the day. I think she did. I know my son. Well, I can't talk about that. But I think she did. I know she son. Well, I can't talk about that. I think she did. I know she. My dad told me that she could drink him under the table. So she had some experiences. I'm just saying that. So she'd drink him under the table.

So now they start talking. They start talking. Pete David said. Oh, and of course because Pete Davidson used to call it a Nick Show when he was on the radio and people like 15 and Nick Cannon was doing these stand-up shows and He invited Pete as a 15 year old to come on. He did very well. So they've had a relationship for a very long time So they're talking about Pete and of course it goes right to You and Pete have made sense to your friends. I mean, you guys both taught him everything you know. Fuck yeah, I mean, he is definitely learned from who's got the bigger dick at this point. Is it Pete?

No, no. And I don't want to. You guys got to come on together. We got to, we got to measure. I mean, because Pete's got this whole thing about his big dick big dick energy all these shit We got to have you guys both out at best your penises said the straight guy The guy who's totally straight

She says we're gonna have to taste him And then this gets even crazier because now and I don't know if like Nick Cannon's just getting woozy or something He's been on for over an hour talking about this stuff now. He's just started bringing up the sides of his sons cocks Jesus Christ That's my young brother. It's even like when I see my kids and You know I'm changing diapers like that's the other half of my day and I'm like I'm really happy with the young cannons like I'm really like I'm more proud about what they pack into what I got

you can tell already your kids are my sons my son they're all present they're gonna I started my mother one's car I said, did you know like I had a small penis right? Or like she goes, yeah, it was always small. I mean, it's all a piracy. I mean, you guys have so many similar, for penis aside, I mean, you're both comedians. I'm sorry for the fact you guys both have big packs. You're also celebrities. Let's go.

All right. So guys, obviously I'm not exaggerating. You're also celebrities. Let's go. All right. All right. So guys, I obviously have not exaggerated. There was a lot of cock talk going on there with McCamp. Fast forward two days later, Mattelka's out the show. Oh, no. Mattelka. So Lars and Kirk had dinner at Nobu with Anita,

Pellanberg and Maryann Faithful. And this is the question that Howard has. And Kirk and I was sitting at no point. Mary Ann Faithful and Anita Pellanberg going, fucking hell, this is cool. And kind of bizarre. But you know, you're in these incredible stories. What do you mean? Could you ask them about like making Keith and shit? I mean, could they get down with that? Yeah. They're they're pretty open about, you know, our questions, you know, they did have some sweet hours. It was those just one of those as we were sitting trying to come up with some thoughts of some ideas stuff, stuff to talk about. Kirk and I hit on that. It was just like some of those It's not something we've talked a lot about but some of those crazy

Stories and situations that you find yourself in the bottom line is who had the biggest penis Keith or man I mean you guys must have asked I always go back to the thing That's what I don't know. But I always go back to the thing. So they immediately change the subject. Yeah, because that's all Howard's thinking about is everyone's cock. It's always talking about.

Yeah, it's so weird. Listening to him interview these old celebrities, like he's gonna be, he already is, like 70, just asking about penis sizes constantly. Yeah. Oh, so you had dinner with people who slept with Mick and Keith. You obviously asked them about the the girth of their cocks, right? No. Didn't even think to do that. Howard. I'm not going to stop.

You imagine no booze or like, dry got the menu. Yeah, I kind of looked like this and a curve this way. All right, that's enough penis talk. Jesus. That's too much penis talk, in my opinion. I think that we have to hit on our boy, Penny Pew Quater. That's right, I don't know if you know this dick,

but Patty Seacups recently did an episode where he said, you know what, I don't even call myself Patty Seacups anymore. You guys gonna stop doing that. Call me Patty Broken Skull or Patty Pew Quater. So that's all right. You what, I don't call myself petty seecups anymore. You guys gonna stop doing that. Call me petty broken skull or petty puke waters. That's all right. You know, I'll be fine. I'll be fine.

I'll be fine. Yeah, I'll explain right after this. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me I go for the new one.

Because that's absurd. Yeah, so when Patty was doing his do-you-party show, he told a story about how he doesn't drink anymore because when he used to get drunk, he would fill the bath, get into the bath, and then puke in the bath water. Oh. Yeah, so that's why petty puke water. Was one of his nicknames. And that's the cringe of the week. All right. You're gonna love this deck because I don't know if you know this. Panties got this new thing. He does a beginning of every episode. I don't know. He was doing episodes. Thisy's got this new thing, he doesn't be getting every episode. Where he yells, yeah.

I don't know, he was doing episodes. This is like the best news I've had all year. Yes, he's back, baby. He's back full time, it's great. So this is a show free water. Ah! And he starts off, he always does this thing, just like you, he yells, yeah.

And he knows that we need him to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's up everybody? Welcome back to Free Water and I realized I'm sleeping in the next room. Yeah, just start this podcast without the yeah, right? Just hey, everybody, what's up? How are you going?

But I think you guys anticipate the yeah just like I do I Think you're ready as the music drops out I listen to more pay the puke water than the average, and I would not have noticed if he didn't do his yet thing. How could you keep this from me, the act, Carl? This is big news. Come on, we talked about this on the last crossover. You don't need that, too. Yeah. Sounds like Lucy of Ball crying.

Yeah. How'd you like it if I didn't give you a, yeah. All crying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you like it if I didn't give you a yeah. So now he's going to explain to us how natural his show is, because it's just all off the top of his head, or is it? Maybe it's fully premeditated, and all this was planned. OK. Maybe that's the case.

Maybe I sat here and scripted out an entire podcast, but I'm reading it so naturally that it sounds natural. You get it. Can you believe how good I am at podcasting? So nice. When my mouth. Very good. All right. There's two main... I can't tell if he's improvising or reading, I guess, to his credit. Yeah, that's the way I'm reading it.

I'm charging your bad at both. So I could imagine a typed up document with stutters in it as well. So you got us. You got me. You can't read his old handwriting. It's like, yeah, I can see that. So this is, he's teasing us about some of

this coming up later, but we're not going to get to it yet. And I'm not really sure if I want to jump right off, right off the yacht into the shit. So let's talk about some whatever stuff before that. I'm not sure if I want to jump off the yacht whenever that means into the shit. Just get a new emissime. Yeah, get a dictionary like a colloquial metaphor dictionary. Read it. No eyes with flashcards. Make up new ones.

You did jump right off the yacht into this shit. You know, there's a stitching time. Say it's money. I'm not into this shit. You know, there's a stitching time, say. Aves money. So, he said at the end there he goes, we're gonna start with just some whatever stuff. So I'm not as psyched about that. He doesn't sound like he's really selling it to me,

but then when he gets into it, this is my favorite thing that he does. He doesn't do it very often. When you get to see a glimpse into the lifestyle of Patrick Michael, because that's the thing I'm fascinated about. When he just tells like little anecdotes, they're like, oh yeah, today I was out doing this.

I'm like, wait, what? What's going on? So here's a perfect example of that. He got a shirt from a company called 88, is the brand of this shirt. He's very excited about it. Okay, like I said, it's called 88 brand I don't know if brand is a part of the name, but

88 is essentially just spelled out. It's not the numbers. It's spelled out 88 and I got a shirt today that is like a shirt that I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I would make that shirt and wear it and Then you see it and you're like, oh fuck. Somebody already did. Somebody knocked it out of the park. He's so psyched about that. He's like, this is my new favorite brand.

I love these shirts. They're so fantastic. And I was going to explain what's so sweet about this shirt. I would make that shirt and wear it. What the, who thinks it's about that when they're buying clothes? Go yeah, I would make these pants. I make this and wear it. I better buy it.

And it's just a shirt with like a collage of smiley faces, dude. That's it. But they're like melting and they're upside down and different, it's fucking sweet. And it seems so specific to me I'm looking at the website and one of the shirts that they sell is a mushroom that has Sun glasses and it's smiling and it says, trippy vibes, happy times.

Man, I would make that shirt and wear it. Oh God, but they already made it. I went to their website and so I'm gonna reveal something, but first I wanna play this because what's great about Patty is he's frugal as if you like grew up during the Great Depression. Like we all have like that great-grandparent too, like do how do I like make a dime last a month.

Damn dude, maybe I should get online and shop directly from the person who creates this stuff. And then I'm like, well, technically I got it at a discount store. So imagine the real price on the fucking website. No way. Probably a $40 goddamn t-shirt never dude never I would rather buy three packs of White t-shirts from from Haynes

Then spend $40 on a single shirt. That's crazy Steve. I saw you were just looking at the website I found this exact shirt on the website. I found this exact shirt on the website. It's under clearance. So it's 88 cents. Listen to this guys. This shirt, he's describing as the coolest shirt ever. $7.70. This one is a const. Wow. Wow. And yeah, it's pretty inexpensive clothing. I'm sure you saw that Steve as you were checking out 8Abrand.com. I love his thought process. He found a shirt he loves it.

And he's like, I wonder if they make more shirts that I'd really enjoy. You know what though, they're probably expensive. 40 bucks for a shirt. Who has that kind of fucking money laying around? It's insane. I thought you'd say and I should support my local discount story. Well, maybe that's what it is. Yeah.

And I love to know what store that is. Yeah, what's a discount store? 5 below TJ Max. Yeah, 5 below. TJ Max, maybe Walmart. Where does he buy clothes? They have two piece sets for men. Don't we know that he goes to 5 below

because that's where he gets his headset or headphone you come. Yeah, they have they have closed there too. Do they? I know. I think he's sure. Steve knows everything. Oh, It really does. Well, he's for a good too. I just made it up, but I'm sure that they do have clothes in there. I have never seen a matching two piece

Worse outfit for men being sold online. It's like a weed a shirt full of weed leaves And then a short it's with a tastefully appointed shirt full of weed leaves and then a shorts with a tastefully appointed singular weed leaf that you buy as a set. So on that site, there's categories of men's clothing, boys clothing, and then there's clearance. And if you click on men's, all the models are boys. I don't think this is for adults. I don't think it's for adults. It's for very specific adults. Yeah. There's a lavender lost broken heart embroidery in the men's section.

It's like a pink purple with a heart on your chest that has a line through it, a jagged line. Yeah, that's manly, that's men's. No, let's pull this up so that you're adding it to the stream here. Oh, you're gonna fight below. Steve, that're just chopping. All right. There you go.

There is clothing in fight below as a point. All right. Here I go. We'll ask a troll over here. Sorry, buddy. So now, Patty decides, like wouldn't it be great to get a sponsorship from 88 brand? Because I didn't get free products and stuff.

I'd be happy to promote them and he goes, oh shit, how would they get in touch with me? If they wanted to sponsor the podcast. I don't even know if there's an email that I have linked to the show. I guess briefcase pod, Gmail. I don't know. Who cares?

Who cares? No. I don't know who cares. All right. I don't know who cares. There's one more lesson. Okay, I'm fucked, those shards. They'll't know who cares. What about us? I'm Kim. Fuck those shirts.

They'll have the same problem. Everybody else does try to find his shows. You know what, we want to make this guy a spokesperson. They can't find anything. What did he say? Briefcase pod at Gmail? Yes. What he said, yes.

You did say that. I'm going to write him as a representative from my 88. I'll just buy a bunch of that shit and send it to him, right? Yeah. That would be hilarious. I need you to be a butt model for our two for sure. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Combo. You got to you got to tell him that he does have to take photos wearing the clothing and send it back. Yeah. And be careful. There's an imposter posing as a representative from our brand who might contact you.

So don't respond to that. That's what I say to earn his trust. You know. This is really funny. Okay, so he's just getting over being sick and he said something here I don't think I've ever heard him say before maybe I'm wrong now I did say in the last episode which I only recorded a few days ago that I was under the weather, okay? So I took a little bit of time off. I'm trying to get back into it

But as you guys can probably tell still a little under the weather And I hate this. Especially when this is like something you do sort of as work, right? Sort of. It's like I need to be able to sound like myself. I think that's the first time he said that this is what he does for work. Yeah. It's part of his work. I've never heard him say that before. That's the first time he said that this is what he does for work. Yeah. It's podcast.

I've never heard him say that before. That's the first. He's up to 16 people on Patreon. So. Oh, wow. Yeah. This is like a pro now. He's a professional podcaster.

Damn. And yeah, when he's sick, it's like, man, people need these episodes. Who's going to promote anchor dot f out out If I'm under the weather this week Who's gonna let the people know about this? I was the good stuff from the doctor. Yeah, I would sign up for his highest theory blocked me. Yeah, he blocked me too I know well, he blocked me because I was you know, you can see who else the the person follows and he saw that It was a bunch of w aATP and creep off stuff. He went nope.

And that was it. See, that's so shortsighted of him. Totally. You know, it's a very opi thing to do right there because I got blocked. I've never even tweeted it. Opia or anything. And he's going around blocking people. Although he's he's unblocked me now, Dr. Steve.

Oh, good. Maybe me and oppie are gonna be friends We think about that love to see you on the creep off. I love to see Opie on the creep off my friend Yeah, I heard I heard you that Carter fastened a come on the creep off Cardiff is intering law being hard for that one. That's awesome. It'll be fun My creep it was on the radio since he was 18 years old Crepe it was on the radio since he was 18 years old. His name is All right, so this is something that Patty's been doing lately, Dick.

I don't know if you heard this or not, but he thinks he's doing like a professional radio show or something. So he'll go into break and then it'll just like play music and then it'll come back again afterwards. Listen to that. So smoother. We got more coming guys. We got to talk about the Burt Crisher roast.

We got to talk about the Burt Crisher special and then we're gonna get the fuck out of here because it's already 17 minutes. You get it. It just goes, just goes into music for like two or three minutes. Like generic. A elevator music. Burnin' in air. I don't, I don't get it.

All right, we're back, everybody. Yeah, there he goes. All right, we're back. Pety watched the Bert Kreischer roast. He's always talking about the most fucked up things, like the Bert Kreyscher roast? What the fuck is that? There's a reason why, I didn't know about this either,

but I've heard a lot from Patrick. There's a reason why he watched this, so he's gonna tell us why. Okay. But I remember them saying something about April 1st, Bert Kreyscher's fucking roast is gonna be on only fans TV and it's free. And I'm thinking, well, fuck it, if it's free, I'm in.

Not paying for this stupid shit. I don't think he puts a lot of value on his time. That's what I'm thinking here. If he's just like, well, it's free, yeah, I'll sit and watch for an hour. Okay, but sucks. But he wanted to watch it either way. Like he was like, he knew when it was coming out. He had his finger on the pulse of Bert Kreischer.

Only fans TV. The fuck is that? That's what he was doing to me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Gross. So it's like porn companies like attempt to make kid friendly stuff,

but they just have like a bunch of whores like doing like, here's how you repair your, here's how you make a smoothie. And it's like, you know, you like for some reason, hoars like can't just not be hoars and they're doing normal stuff. They always have to like, hoar it up somehow. I was like, okay, here's how you do it.

I was like, why don't you just put on normal clothes? Why are you doing what you're doing? They put the glass in their cleavage and pour the smoothie and do it. Here we go. Now, if you don't have a pool, you can have your hand to do this. Well, shit, he's right. You don't have to push your hand to do this.

Well, shit, he's right, it's not only fans TV, the roast of Bert Kreischer. Yeah. Well, it wasn't suggesting he was wrong. All right, so let's talk about Whitney Cummings, because apparently Patty Pew-Quater, I almost had Seacops, my bad. Patty Pew-Quater hates Whitney Cummings. Like, really dislikes this moment. Because, of course, Whitney Cummins put the ropes together.

Of course she did. Because what other comic would you choose to put together ropes besides Whitney Cummings? Perfect. That right there doesn't make any sense. Like nobody even wants to see her on television anymore. Let alone some fake half-ass television called Only Fans TV. Yeah, it's true.

Why does she keep trying to make herself relevant? Why does she keep trying to make herself relevant? That's a dumb question. What does this woman do? I try to maintain a career in show business. Putting herself out there. Yeah, one of that's all. It's actually, it looks pretty good.

Jim Norton, Tom Segerra, big J. O'Kerson. Oh, you worked for it. That's all. It's actually looks pretty good. That Jim Norton, Tom Segera, Big J. O'Kerson. You worked for it. That's amazing. What? Well, the world's shitting on Bert. I think that'd be fun. Well, it is fun. It is fun.

I do it all the time. According to Patrick Michael, this roast humor is very easy to do. It's the easiest style of comedy. And I've said that before too. I think that's true. I think making fun of people is very easy to do. It's the easiest style of comedy. I mean, I've said that before too. I think that's true. I think making fun of people is pretty, pretty easy to do with fun. But I think he's misguided about this. And this is the one thing that bothers, and it should bother everybody about these fucking roasts. First and foremost, this is the easiest form of comedy. This is the easiest form of joke writing.

I don't, if you took a comedy class like an asshole, the first thing they would tell you is, hey, let's roast this fucking bowl of fruit. Ah! What? Delicious. Come here. If you think a comedy class like an asshole,

the first thing they would do is have you roast, I mean, I'm like, I'm like, how do we get greatest comedy class ever made? Roast this brood. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah.

I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah.

I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah.

I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. or two. So if you took a comedy class like an asshole is one of the funnier things I've heard it say it's pretty good. So no you just said Dr. Steve that this seems like it has some good comics on it. Yeah. And he disagrees with that. I would say 90% of the comedians that Bert took on his fully loaded tour couldn't make it to the roast. Right. Shane Gillis wasn't there, Mark Norman wasn't there, Big J. Oakerson wasn't there, but nah, they did bring Donnell Rawlings because they're friends, right? That's just another

sign that Whitney doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. So they did a big J.O.K. It literally says big J.O. Yeah, he was on it. Yeah, I know. That was a black voice that he was doing for one of the comedians. I know. It's got a sound like it.

Wow. It's got a little sassy. Yeah, Nail. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So full. Roast. Roast did. All right. Now you mentioned Jim Norton was on this roast and I know that you're a friend of Jim Norton Yes, and

Apparently according to patty Jim Norton should not be doing comedy anymore But it feels like their times up, you know Feels like Jim is a radio guy now. We don't need another Jim Norton special. Relax. Okay, you've done enough broadcasting that we get all your jokes. We know you're gonna say something about sleeping with the fucking, you know, a girl with a mustache. We get it. How much fun you can do? Can you elaborate more? No, thank you. We're all good for the rest of our lives. Oh, Jesus. God.

I know. I'm only going to go, we know all of Jim's jokes out. We have to come up with a beyond. What do you mean? I can say that. It's a pretty good roast though to be honest. Oh my god. Jim Norton's response to that. Well, Jim does like dating girls who have penises.

So I think that's what he's referring to. Okay. Someone just put a photo shop in the discord feed of the Dalai Lama sticking his tongue out. But it's me next to him moving in without him. You saw that video, right Steve, where the Dalai the dog was telling a child to yeah I don't talk yeah I'm sure with some sort of I don't know what

the fuck it's pedophilia pedophilia yeah that's what it was pedophilia I just Steve what do you if we had a video of you doing that what would you call him medical percentage saving lives let me taste I need to taste cancer on your tongue. You might have an eye.

It's in the back sometimes, hiding behind the mullers. Yeah. Yeah, I was a sort of, I was a follower of Krishna consciousness in college. And then I switched over to Zen Buddhism. I've never seen this particular intervention before. So yeah, that was a surprise to me. It's pedophile Buddhism.

There you go. I'm sorry. I don't know. There's still it from the Christians. I'm offended. I'm behalf of Catholics, everyone. Yeah. Pruser in the North Shore.

Yeah, that's our thing. All right, so this is ridiculous because Petynou goes off of this whole thing about Jeff Ross and how much Jeff Ross sucks. Oh, okay. And he talks about, oh, fuck that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he talks, this is, I'll explain it afterward.

This is a hysterical. So don't try to feel like you're spending hours upon hours writing jokes. You're not. You're talking shit about a specific topic. That's why they did the Mr. Peanut Who's not a real He's not real come on. What's next? The energizer bunny? What about the fucking oven mitt from hamburger helper? We're gonna do him that fucking stupid. I would pay to your patty. I'm really pleased.

I'm really pleased. Please set that up. So, do you guys know about the Mr. Peanut roast? No. It's a commercial, it's marketing, it was an advertisement. They did it on the Super Bowl. They had a bunch of pretty well-known comedians roast a peanut. It's a promotional thing for planters.

I love that he goes, yeah, and Jeff Ross, he lost off credibility when he started roasting Mr. Peters. He was, it feels a gig. He felt the need to explain to his listeners that the peanut is not real. He's not even a real peanut. He sounded disappointed. I know, he just found out.

Yes, I know. Fucking thing in an even real. Oh my God, I believe it. I didn't even know about it, so I had to look it up and I was watching some of it. It's so bad. Ooh. The commercial?

Yeah. Yeah, I could understand why, um, it's made for retards. Right. Yeah. By retards. That's why you need to buy peanuts. You buy a peanut's carl?

I mean. So this is one of the funniest insults. Five returns for a new five peanuts you buy a peanuts Carl So this is one of the funniest insults. He's talking about ugly Jeff Ross is here What a ugly ugly man to my Jeff Ross has been ugly most of his career now that he has no hair like fucking stay inside guy Stay inside that's a definition of a forever hat man. You know, what a fucking hat oh dude. He's staying inside. That's a really funny. We're the little bit of writing. He can be very good.

I don't know what stay inside means. I've only seen Jeffrey Ross inside. It's where he performs. He goes he's been ugly most of his career. Funny. He's tried to be funny. The whole time. He's much uglier now. It's funny. Forever Hat Bad. That's funny too. Good for the game. And then like a little pork pie hat, you know. Yeah. Taking that school.

All right, so that's all fun and games. But now we get back into the Whitney Cummings hate. And he really hates Whitney Cummings. I mean, her fucking her body movements, her jaw and chin, the way that stuff goes, you're like, I mean what's happening? Is she about to have muscular dystrophy or something? What?

Is she got scorned Yosis recently? Did she dive into a pool? Did she dive into the shallow end of a pool head first? What's going on? She's seeing a real. Oh, Jesus. He's so angry. She's killing it.

He's fucking killing it. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master.

We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. We should be the new roast master. I don't even know what he's talking about. Oh my god, he has muscular... Just to be... Did she dive into the shallow end of a pool? Look at her.

These are all valid questions. By the way, I just want to let you guys know that this is going to get back to Patty's going to get so cocky after this. I know what happens when we compliment him. What if he's like the greatest roast master? Like, what if he really thinks it's the easiest form of comedy? Because to him, it is. And he's trying to do all this, like telling story, horseshit that he cannot do. And I'm waiting like, you know,

it's all so great. Most master of all time. Jeffrey Ross to stay inside. I know. Yeah, it's just easy. Like, Jeffrey Ross has been ugly for most of his career. He's just all, he's kind of guy that just Ross has been ugly for most of his career. He's kind of guy that just always wear a hat like stay inside, bro. You just have to check me out.

You just have to check me out. You know what? They should have a thing. You know, like the premise of the movie Rocky. Well, they just wanted to give a shot for a guy who's, you know, lower in the ranks, give him a shot to win the champion chip, put him up against the champ. They should do that for a roast. They should just find someone off the street. Patty, Patty Seacos was up on Comedy Central next to us. We'll start with a bowl of fruit. Just kill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rest of a bowl of fruit, a five hour special by patty sea cubs like amazing he he literally reinvented comedy and this one night roasting a banana I've never seen fruit cry before so these are talking about he starts talking about how Tony

Hinchcliffe wrote for a lot of those early roasts that they did on Comedy Central and this is a weird take for the first what six roast he just wrote jokes how wrote for a lot of those early roasts that they did on Comedy Central. And this is a weird take. For the first, what, six roasts, he just wrote jokes? How fucking boring. What a lame son of a bitch. It's a right joke for somebody else. You're also a coward.

You're a coward. It's like all these people that write music for fucking Katie Perry and Taylor Swift. You know what I mean? You're a coward. I'm not gonna check it. What? Dude, I don't know if he knows this, but sometimes people write movies, they don't even star it.

These are fucking cow-boats here. Look, he's, yeah, what's their problem? Writing sogs for someone else but a coward. That's a weird take. I'm expecting that. I'm sure Tony has good wit of love to have been on the, that's a weird take. I'm expecting that. I'm sure Tony is going to love to a bit on the show if he had been asked. I'm sure he wasn't like,

who's the point behind camera? A lot of writers just don't like to do jokes. Like they just like to write. Anyway, that was a weird take. Thank you for it. And then he starts talking about your mom's house. And Tom Sigerah and his wife, Christina Pashinsky. I mean this bitch is out of her mind. Out of her mind. And nobody's talking about it. Nobody's talking about it. Like that shit. The shit that she pulls on why I'm aged dude is not funny. It's not

funny stuff. You're like she's fucking gross. It feels like time is dating Bert Christchurch. Just called Christina the female bird Christchurch which is pretty fucking funny dude. She's fucking gross. I think Panie may have a problem with women. I don't know. There's some anger there for sure. But I love it. And you know what? Because he did such a good job killing it on our show today for us, I'm going to give him his plugs. I feel like we've done enough here guys. Thank you so much patreon.com slash pod culture.

YouTube.com slash great job show. What's the other one? Instagram that dude with ears and yeah. Okay, until next time. Till next time buddy. Well done sir. Wow. That's sir. Wow. Yeah, really.

Jesus. Jesus. You know, for a while there, we kind of ruined Patty, because he was just talking about us, Dick, all the time. He constantly with Rick and Roy and, you know, all the stuff. Now they just go back to like just talking about shit that he's watching out YouTube. I love it. Yeah.

He gets too nervous when he's like, when he can can taste like some exposure then he messes it all up But when he's just hatefully talking about bitterly and resentfully talking about famous comedians. That's where he nails it Yeah, I don't I love it, but you're right. He's gonna come back with a swollen ego. Oh, yeah, and we're gonna have to sign the Indiana papers I know I've seen I see where this go. I've seen this before Sure, we say like hey, that was a pretty good episode. He's like, yeah, I know I'm the fucking best podcast ever. Oh, that's how we met. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no before. I've never played to catch an alien. And, uh, Dick, you probably have not seen this game. This is one of the biggest games on the internet right now. Everyone's talking.

Cool. Yeah. It's pretty self explanatory. Oh, why did that just go away? Come back. You catch an alien? Well, so there's a guy, there's a guy named Tommy from MSCS media. So this guy, this is guy named Tommy from MSCS Media. And the reason why we know about him is because he paid Southern John to fly to Florida to be on his show. And the more that we watch Tommy and the way he talked and the way he looks, we figured out that he's definitely not from this world. Yeah, okay.

He's not from Earth. There's a way. He doesn't understand that every human would understand. Right. I would give anything to be on his show. I would love to do that. Yeah, I know. I got to work on that again.

I was texting with him for a little while there. But also the other thing to know about this guy is that he loves Joe Rogan. So everything about his show is trying to copy the Joe Rogan experience. Amazing. Which is fun too. All right, here we go. It's time for everyone's favorite game show to catch. An alien.

Are you ready to play? To catch. An alien. I speak up, Cardiff. Come on, Jesus. What happened to the music band? I work. It does not work. I talked to a physicist off camera You know, I don't want to say his name, but he had he was against the UFO thing and not thinking about the energy thing Most people don't that's why I think you're new film is so important because it's not just this craft flying around and

I mean to me it's the coolest thing in the world and everybody else But there's so much more to it with the energy and how they do it and all of them have it looks like what plexiglass And that's how they kind of pull the energy through and, you know, free energy above the, so when we were all, he said, the reason why my mind has started to change was because for 35 years, I didn't get any info. Nothing. Nothing about UFOs, nothing about anything, the physicist, not just UFO stuff, IPA, whatever the new name is of the week. Nothing. Just like his, just diminished and if you didn't have money in your pocket, you basically just went to a college and teach whatever they've been teaching

for 80 years. Right. And then he had said, you know, whether it's our stuff, their stuff, a balloon, like you said, to distract or whatever it may be, too many people started talking about it. So he started looking into it, looking into it, looking into it, and he went right to the energy. And he said, you know, 20 years ago, if I would have gotten this information from anyone, any of my colleagues, anybody, And he said, you know, 20 years ago, if I would have gotten this information from anyone, any of my colleagues, anybody, as you said, we could be a hundred years further. We could be so much, and this is a guy,

Dr. Grantzell, and you could put a gun to his head, and he would say, look, that's all fake. They're not, if they're real, why would they let us see him, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I had said, based on what watching you before I knew you were even gonna come in, they're shooting nukes up there. If they're up there.

What did Tommy say next? Here are your choices. Number one, they have to be getting pissed off. Be that so cute. You people with your little guns watch this. Three. I'm surprised that they haven't thrown some nukes back at us. Damn it. Next. They are just like us. We only swat flies when they're bothering us. Lastly, that's gotta be fucking with their time travel. To catch.

I know you're not damn it, Carter. So the other thing, Dick, is this guy's profoundly stupid. I don't know if I get here. So I always pick first. I'm going to go with B so cute with their little guns. Watch this. I think it's always going to say next, Dr. Steve, what do you think? Yeah, I'm going to go with, they're just like us. We just swat flies. Swat flies, all right. Dick, what do you think? Facking with time travel.

Time travel's a good one. Yeah. All right, producer Chris. Throw in some nukes back. Okay, so if it's one, we're. Yeah, so here's how it works, Dick. If none of us get it right, then card if wins. And we hit that.

Yeah, all right. So we And we hit that. Yeah. All right, so we have a good spread going in. Athletes, boys. Yeah. Real, why would they let us see him blah, blah, blah, blah? And I had said, based on watching you before I knew you were even going to come in, they're shooting nukes up there. If they're up there, that's got to be fucking with their time

travel. Oh, man, come on. Oh, man. Oh, man. Whoa. there that's got to be fucking with their time travel fuck it yeah every time wow you lose fucking choice is better you ask all you got God you got got cuz you're fucking So I'm still going to fill in

Congratulations, Jack, I like that you handled that very good so hard. Thank you Those guys but just that simple math you it throws everything off right? That's all for this time I'm back next time to find out if you wait a second did he just call time travel simple math you're right that's gotta be fucking with their time travel right I mean I mean I'm not and it was guys but just that simple math you it throws everything off That's all for this time him and patty have to talk back next time to find out if you have the alien nukes to catch an alien

On YouTube Subscribe today. I'm dry. I'm dry. I'm dry. Dick, you know about subreddit surfing? No. Our friend Vinny Paulino co-hosts a show with that potato cardiff. And what they do is they find a ridiculous subreddit.

You know, people are into, I don't know, a big foot or ghost. So one of the first ones they did was math. Where people who are methods, chat on subreddit. And they put a Streamyard link in there and just say, anybody who wants to come out and talk to us about putting your in there. That was dumb.

Come check it out. Yeah. It's good ideas. That's what makes the news someday. It will. Convince to that. Yeah. So it's good ideas. That show will make the news someday. I will convince to that. Yeah. Something's going to happen on that show that's going to the Nambler episode. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. You know, they got to get opi on that show. I know opi wascing on the destroyer. Somebody who's going to take these people to task a little bit. Yeah. I just think it's going to be a whole bunch of what are you talking about?

That's great. It'll be great. What? I'm glad Opie's having fun with this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's been it's been interesting to watch.

That's for sure. All right. Wow. What a fun afternoon. This has been Dick Masterson. Thank you so much. Thanks man. Thanks for having on the show.

The Dick Show Dick. Show is where you canon. Thank you so much. Thanks man. Thanks for coming on the show. The Dixho, Dick. Show. It's where you can find that, wherever you get podcasts. You also have a Patreon, Patreon.com slash the Dixho. And if you're on our Patreon, you probably hear Dick about every other month. We do the crossover shows, WTP and TDS. And that's going to be happening live and Philly. And if you didn't get your tickets, you fucked up. You fucked up. You fucked up big time. sold out very quickly. That's gonna be a big show a lot of big celebs Nick Rikita Vito's gonna be there. You can throw Lollie at him draw pictures of little girls or whatever it throw at him

He has no Twitter so we can't do anything about it anymore No, I'm Don't be a my shout BMI if you see Vino Are you gonna be there doctor Steve? I won't be able to make this one unfortunately I'm gonna be in Detroit. I'll fuck you. I'm gonna do Detroit. I'm going to Detroit. Yeah, we're gonna be in Detroit September 15th. Dr. Steve will be there. I believe it's your birthday month. No, that's a month.

Yeah, it's actually on my birthday, but that's fine. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm 60. You can't travel twice September. That's like fucking six months away. Right. Good point. Yeah, good point.

Good point. I guess I just evenym has a job that keeps him busy or something. Go figure. Patty, Patty Pukewater's got a roast Dr. Steve. That would be the way. By the way, you probably don't know this. Patty Pukewater really hates Dr. Steve because I had Dr. Steve come on and do a psychological analysis. Yeah, for some reason I got to him. What did you determine? Oh, nothing.

I called him a compensatory narcissist. And we talked about his childhood traumas and stuff. Yeah, I remember he said that he just didn't appreciate that I analyzed him. That was all I got out of that. He did block me everywhere. that he just didn't appreciate that I analyzed him. That was all I got out of that. He did block me everywhere, so. But he liked one of my comments on his YouTube channel, so maybe he's turning around.

Classic compensatory, nicest, this behavior. That's right. Don't ever do that to me, Dr. Steve. You ever analyze me on anything. Don't worry about it, Brad. I know. You know, I know. I mean, you can analyze me,

but you fucking better not, Dr. Steve. I don't know if. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie authority, he just rails it. That's why he can't be employable. School was hard at our time. He just hated anything. Carly. Yeah. Anyone telling you what to do? The kids. Very upset about it. Yeah. And that sounds about right. And that would explain some of his reticence when he gets noticed by people who are maybe

a little higher on the ladder than him. Well where you would think that he'd be excited about that. Or a lot of... Thank you. Yeah, I caught that. Take a f***** to that. Yeah, f***** people with a lot of... Oh, what do they call Dr. Phil? Yeah, point to the...

Steven, you heard him. Yeah, I can see him. Okay, no one heard of that. Yeah, then he just rails against it and then disappears. It deletes all his shit. It's really an interesting case, no question. Yes, yeah, he's fun. Yeah.

So weird medicine people can find that, of course, on SiriusXM, but you can also subscribe to the podcast. Yes. And our Patreon, and I'll say fluid to your mama on cameo too So for really almost no money. It's just blood to do fuck her What is it six bucks for? I think it's I'm I'm I was five when I was on vacation I did quite a few of them just goofing around walking on the beach saying stupid shit So it's fun, but yeah, I'm less of a drudge on my regular show

and I'm sorry, I know. Zero entertainment, but I appreciate you having me on. No, I don't see me in- Steve, that's a slogan. Dick, me and Chris are so fun and funny that I needed you to come on and drag, but I'm not gonna get that. I didn't want this to be such a debuff ever show

that people are like, wow, I'm not going to get better than this. It's an accomplished. Thank you. To hell, three zins. You got to have somebody to bring it down so people calm down and they're like, oh, yeah. No, I just think it's so funny that, you know, all you want to do is laugh at fat people,

but I bring on Dr. Steve to make it look like, like, oh, no, no, this really is about how I have to. I have to. Yeah. I thought you like, like, oh no, no, no, this really is about how I am right here. Yeah, I thought you'd be there right away. Oh my God. Okay, go on. Yeah, I care about him too. That's like, you remember that when the Supreme Court

made the obesity ruling and then all the porn books used to be able to buy books of, you know, it's stories of porn. Obscenity? And yes, obscenity. Oh, okay. What did I say? Did I say obesity?

Yeah, I was probably not. I was probably not. I was not. I was not. I hope not. Can you, I'll know when I see it. Yeah, that's exactly it. I didn't define a piece.

All the porn books back then, and I bought a few of them, when it started off with a preamble that says, you know, students having sex with teachers is a real problem in our society. And that was how they made it, you know, made it appropriate. So I was kind of, I guess, my role today. Magic tricks with scarves can be dangerous. What pornography books did you buy? Do you remember the first one you bought? Well, that was one where some student had sex

with their teacher, obviously, and that was just a book. A male student or a female student? Yes, male student having sex with his large, breasted female teacher. So down, we're going. Nice. Yes. And then you'll go, how long do we have? Five teachers a month. You'll go,. Nice. And then, you look at your mouth, you're like,

what did I even have? You look about. Ooh. That's for another podcast. Hey. Well, yeah, they had to have some societal input. Or societal relevance, that's what it was. Let's go back to Stern talking about Nick Cannon's cock, all right?

Okay, first. Let's get to the little joke cider right now. I'm gonna bring the movie back. See end hold it. I'm fucking okay anyway I'll see you later. I'll go fuck myself. Bye, Dad. You're seeing okay. Bye. Kisses. Thank you. Love you buddy. Yeah, love you too all right and Dick if you want to cruise you kind of a new place and voicemails and stuff and wrap things up now I'm gonna play some voicemails and stuff and wrap things up. Now I'm gonna go eat. Yep, goodbye.

Okay, see you in Philly. Those are coming on, see you in Philly. We'll probably do something Friday night, I would imagine. Pills probably be hanging out. Please join us again next time. It might be the episode we find out once and for all. Who are these podcasts? Sleep well, everyone.

I'm already in the most busy of morning radio. And now the show is open now. Mm, okay. Great show. Good job, show is over now. Hmm. OK. Great show. Good job, everybody. Great job, everyone.

Internet news, the closing of take box. From Patreon, Howard Crain writes, surprise, surprise. The sad acts on Reddit who form communities around destroying people who are doing things with their lives, turn their attention to Carl, could not see that coming. Good thing Carl has years of experience dealing with her assesment.

John Churranzi, act rights. Oh my god, this is the worst show you've covered. Seriously made me want to stab my eardrums out with a pencil. Homeless Cardiff has a request. I think it's time for another Ask Me Anything, shall? More of a notice this time around. Last one wasn't great, but I feel it would be better this time. Producer Chris, Andy, Reel, Cardiff, Vinnie, people want to know stuff. Ira, Gret life ponders. No Cardiff? The podcast review section of the podcast review show is longer than 20 minutes. Keep it up, Carl.

Regarding Burt Kreyscher. From YouTube, Robert Anderson shares, here's a perfect summation of B. My friends and I were at a twin peaks in Kansas. The hot dumb waitress said, oh I do stand up. Trying to get people to go see her in an open mic. I asked who her favorite comic is. I like that one fat guy who takes a shirt off. So this girl who did open mic jokes about hooking up with guys claimed to be a huge comedy fan. Didn't know his name or any of his jokes just that he was fat and took his shirt off. That's the Bert fan base. Hidden Hand media, Bert calls non-commediance civilians. That's all you need to know. Terry Davis Gushes. I love Lucy. She is the perfect woman podcast host.

She didn't say a single thing the whole time. She is the perfect woman podcast host. She didn't say a single thing the whole time. Sir Miles the Cato Pines. I want a Bert and John podcast where they compete to make conversations about them. Mr. Spankles. I am so glad WATP did more on Stuttering John. She will he has spammed so many crappy videos. It's nice to have funny people do it again. Thanks. Johnny Longfether. The headshots didn't help him get work. Jack Mourash, headshot. We could only hope. I'm for fun, one points out. Carol Burnett had the eartug. John has the ass to finger to mouth. And concerning episode 401, Hey Riddle Riddle, from Reddit, Wapio Worns, this episode can be hard to listen to. Those improv MOOCs were disgusting.

Perseus A.W.C. people were requesting more time on the podcast being roasted. Well, I hope they're happy. That hour was brutal. That troop sucked balls. MP3 upload. This is the worst show Carl has ever reviewed. Holy shit. Blaze 3 confesses.

I never fast forward an episode, but this one made me sick, and Jaggerlicious plays us out with. Hey Riddle Riddle is what Reddit would sound like if Reddit was a podcast. Yeah, I got a lot of complaints from people about, hey Riddle Riddle, that was an annoying show. Holy shit, I believe. The text message I got from Mr. B was fuck you Carl. Yeah.

That sums it up. Something up pretty well. I have to say, you've done produce stuff, you've done improv stuff. It was the bottom of the barrel of both at the same time. So unfunny. And yet, very successful. Yeah, they sold around, don't they? Again, today's show, very successful.

Horrible show. I want some of that horrible money. Yeah. Internet money, guy. All right, let's go to the voicemails. Let's see what's it doing. Hello, Carl, and whoever else hosts WATP. I can't really remember.

We'll watch it so many shows lately. I can't remember who's at the potato and who's at pink men and whatever else. It's all kind of blending together. Anyway, I was going to do a whole skit of my Patrick Michael impression, but I don't even know if it's that good. So, let me know what you think of this. Talk about retarded.

Talk about retarded. Talk about retarded. Anyway, that's pretty good. Talk about retarded. And Vinnie, you're fat. Goodbye. All right, good stuff. I'm not fat. I'm big band.

All right, Vinnie. Pipe down over there. Get back to your pizza. All right. So, some people were sending me better punchlines for that Riddle or joke whatever was what does a horse say when it trips. Oh, yeah, what did the horse say when it trips These colors are amazing Not that hard guys

True all right. That's something. I get it. I get it. What else was happening here? Call back Curtis. Call it into the show. Hey, it's Callback Curtis. That's a riddle podcast. Got me back in the game.

Carl, can you come up with a character for me to do an improv and a voice mailer? Come up with a situation. Call me back. Okay. For the character, Mike Tyson. do an improv and a voice mailer come up with a situation call me back okay for the character Mike Tyson and the situation is less than 45 seconds perfect all right now go make it happen shit I meant to play this one when Dick was here I fucked up. I'll try and keep this quick your buddy Dick Masterson said I don't know if you know that all mister b's and it's fucking uh... tranny trun body crystal

yeah but it's a bit master believes that uh... marriages with cause uh... mr. b's body there to leave his wife and kids rather than go uh... through the divorce uh... i think that's a fucking ice-cold awful take. I mean when God's name would rather turn into a fucking dumb, dumb, broad rather than just like bite the bullet in the voice, the fucking broad you're with. Oh this guy's never been married. the fucking Roger with. Oh, this guy's never been married. Oh, that's what I got.

Hey, this is an absolutely awful take. I don't know if he's just dick-measured like joking or if he's just being retarded. Well, he is a comedian. So there's a clue. He's joking every time. What is he, what is this, kind of joking around or something?

I don't get it. Yeah, this is clearly just clearly. have a joker out or something haha haha i don't get it it's just clearly just clear that he did this christ uh... train confirmed fuck all is just a victim of the fucking modern day you know sia whatever the fuck you want to call up a nap he ain't some fucking big brain saying i'm gonna get out of pain my beautiful smoke show 22 year old

alright that's enough of that. It's too long of a voice now. I'm sorry I missed dick with that my bad. Oh so there was a joke from Hey really little bit I didn't understand and we didn't understand. Uh oh. Yeah you weren't here so you're off the hook and I had a lot of people very angrily telling me that I'm an idiot. Hey Carl I'm just idiot. Hey, Carl. I'm just calling about the joke you may have misunderstood in the last episode involving the mosquito inside of Amber. It was an incredibly clever play on words.

You see, the mosquito is inside Amber, his girlfriend, but also the mosquito is inside amber his girlfriend but also the mosquito uh... is inside amber like the amber inside of Jurassic Park you know the the mosquito inside of the amber oh so funny call me back

I don't I can't remember what platform was on but I was going back and forth with this one guy who called me an idiot like 17 times in a row. I've never seen Jurassic Park. I'm sorry guys. I don't know if it makes me stupid and I just don't not familiar with that movie. Jesus Christ. All right. Fine. I was banging beaver. I'm sorry. It was a fucking Jurassic Park reference. Okay. All right. We lose. Now I got it. My bad. Hey Carl, Nate from Flint, Michigan. Hey, out of the blue this week, my woman shoved a TikTok in my face of I got it. My bad. Hey, Carl, Nate from Flint, Michigan. Out of the blue this week, my woman

shoved a TikTok in my face of Bert Kreischer weak laughing at himself. Well, Tom Sikura tried to pretend he wasn't dying inside. So an overwhelming urge to get in touch with podcast hitman over me. So Carl, much obliged if you can set that up. Yep. You find folks have a finer day. I like the podcast hitman. I was just like kill anyone's wife or girlfriend now. Apparently. Yeah. Yeah. Anyone with backbacon.

All right. One more here. Carl. The mosquito joke from Heyrider Rittle, the Jurassic Park reference, you fucking idiot. The mosquito's trapped in Amber. It doesn't make the joke funny at all. I'm really disappointed in your lack of use from Alex Jones, but you're fucking dumb. All right, coming back to you. All right. Jesus Christ. I, you know, I tried to research shit. That one just sounded so stupid to me. I'm like, I can't be a reference study thing. Right. But it was. My bad.

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