Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep438 - Steel Toe Morning Show (WATP Takeover)

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

This is probably the most requested show we’ve had over the past year or so. I knew whatever we did to roast this show it wouldn’t be enough for the show’s detractors. But luckily, Doug from Who’s Right and Bryan Johnson from Tell Em Steve Dave were up for the challenge of figuring out why there are so many Aaron Imholte haters. This is a WATP takeover as I’m on vacation this week. After an extensive review of Steel Toe, Bryan has some thoughts on my interview with Stuttering John and Doug brings some clips from Patty Pukewater’s latest Free Water episode.  https://tellemstevedave.com/ https://whosrightpodcast.com/  Tickets to the Magic Bag on 9/15 – http://watplive.com/  Support us, get bonus episodes, Vic and Hannah pics, and watch live every Saturday and most Wednesdays: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon  https://watp.supercast.tech/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Who are these partners, W-A-G-P? W-A-T-P,W-A-T-P. Hello, Robert Dixon, Couseroo's, and welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts. The only show that doesn't spend half the episode panhandling. I'm Doug, and with me today, a man who regrets agreeing to do this, it's Brian Johnson. Please go to... What's up, Brian? Please go to WhoAreThese.com to get our email address, voicemail number, link to the

subreddit, link to the discord server, link to our merchandise, link to our YouTube channel and link to our Patreon and supercast, featuring two exclusive bonus episodes every single month. And you can watch the unedited show any time that you want. We encourage listeners to give WATP a five star review and Apple podcasts and then shit all over them in the comments section today. We will be reviewing a show called Steel Toe Morning Show. This was a suggestion from everybody on the internet. We have, we have both listened separately.

We've not discussed this with each other. Let's get into it. Steel Toe Morning Show was a Minnesota radio show hosted by Aaron Imholt until a couple of years ago. From my research, it appears that he applied for a radio job in Des Moines, Iowa, didn't get a call back, and then lashed out at the lady that got the job. He got fired and then started streaming the show on the internet with his wife April, Brian.

Yes. What can you tell us about SteelToe? What can I tell you about SteelToe? I discovered SteelToe through Carl. He was talking about him one day. And I then looked up on Reddit. I saw that there was a sub dedicated to them, Steele Toe boring show, which really was not inviting,

but it was at the same time, because it's, you know, it's no different than Shuleys anonymous or Davelers anonymous. It's like they just want to take down Steele Toe and Steele Toe from what I see, he wants to be stern, he wants to be Anthony. And I just watched literally last night, just watched the vice special about the dark side of the 2000s with the shock jocquery and all that shit. And it's like, if you think that we are ever gonna revisit those times again with the Massage and the this and that like the yeah, I mean you were there. You saw it all. Yeah, absolutely My wife is considerably younger than me. So she was not familiar with Stern or Opie or the radio wars or any of that shit

And she was just like whoa like I can't believe this shit was going on But it's very similar to what's going on today with the podcast worries, you know, you got Chad and you got Kevin, now Carl's in the mix, you got Steel Toe who's about to, I mean, Steel Toe, I could talk about Steel Toe for a while, but you're the one who did the homework. You're the one who had to slog through the steel toe portion of this show. So I was with you in your in your description of steel toe up until you put him in or steel toe in the same category as all the other shows. He tries inserting himself into it in anything that's going on from from what I've seen. And until it until it gets too hot, until the heat gets turned up too much,

like with Chad, and then he bag, everybody's mentally ill. Everybody is a hater, everybody is a troll. It's like you can't, especially in today's world, SteelTone included, you can't just dislike something. You have to be trolling them or a hater or something. It's like, no, you watch Steel Toe and my feeling is objectively, it sucks. It seems like they should just

remove the stern stuff, remove the obi stuff, give up the dreams of the shock jocary and the political incorrectness and become like, remember in Fargo when the lady was the original movie when the woman, the wife was sitting on the On the couch and she's knitting or doing something drinking a cup of coffee and listening to this Minnesota nice Guy and gal bullshit morning show and That's what I think steel toe should be like drop the drop any although April man like April April, they were doing a story recently about a cow who won in a state fair and the cow had a very offensive name for black people, not the end word. It was the J word. And, and April seemed to think there was absolutely no problem with that. She's like, what, it's cute. Like they probably didn't know. Like really, it was weird, like, justifying and sort of defending this cow's name, now how the fuck it got to the point where it won in a state fair with that name is beyond me. But the whole time they're acting like it's not a big deal to say the word, but Aaron only says it once, April says it none at all. So if it's not

that big of a deal, and it's cute, then what's wrong with saying it? Because really, who's gonna cancel those two? How could you cancel them? That he... So I think it's all part of the bigger discussion, and I know that we'll get into it. They like to pretend that they are much bigger

than what they are. I think they're probably doing some free shows on compound media. I'm assuming that Kumi is not paying them, there's not a compound media truck backing up and dropping money off in the front yard. I don't think so. I was on compound and that's not the delivery system of the checks. It doesn't happen that way. I think, you know, I'm tight with Iraq and Iraq was, I don't know, I'm not sure still, but he was a steel toe fan because steel toe, and you have to give him this, he does have a produced show, you know, and that's what, regardless, I guess, of the content, that's what Iraq was looking for.

He wants to put a produce show in there so that it's not just a bunch of comedians wrap into each other the whole time. Yeah. And, and so I, no matter what we say, it's not going to be enough for all the, the fucking people that wanted this to happen. But what I will say is I, I also got turned on to steal tool originally from Carl went over and I checked him out and I didn't hate him. I think I caught an episode after they had made had made their goal. So they didn't talk about money, it was just them talking about some new stories. And it was fine. I dug it. It wasn't bad. And then I went back and checked it out a week later, whatever, when I had a minute. And they started, well, okay, this would be a good transition point.

I'm going to play the clip of their show that summarizes it to me. We both listened to the episode right after they had their wildly successful live event. And all of the clip that summarizes the show, this is non-traditional WATP is a supercut. In terms of contributing to this listener supported show, Streamlabs PayPal Venmo again Streamlabs PayPal YouTube Rumble streamlabs PayPal and Venmo the three best ways paypal stream labs Venmo Super chats membership stream labs paypal rumble rants over on paypal stream labs paypal YouTube rumble stream labs paypal Venmo. It is non stop that was from one episode. I was just about to ask was is that just from the episode that you watched?

But it's an odd business model, I feel. And even when I watched, I watched the same episode you did. And like I said, now this is the first time in WATP history that I'm like, I can't listen to this whole thing. It was two, dude, it was two and a half hours. I got through the first hour and a half, maybe a little bit more. And then I was like, I got to check out this. I can't believe. I cannot believe that people watch this shit day after day. And then at night, and that iron in April have the, like, if I saw those numbers and I saw the money that was coming in, I'd be like,

this is not worth it. I got to figure out something else. This is fucking crazy. I'm going to paid like minimum wage if that. Yeah. This isn't what success looks like. And I think it's interesting. You use the phrase business model. That's the same as walking down the street and seeing somebody holding a 10 cup saying, you know, that, I don't know that I agree with your business model. Just saying you're paying. Well, they're close because recently April has been rattling a collection plate. They're doing like a whole gospel thing and April rattles the collection plate.

And I'm like, April, I'm really like, I waffle. I'm not sure if I feel sorry for her and want a rescuer, or I'm like, this woman is a fucking bitch and gets what she deserves. Like there are many times, is that is the second one? I don't know her well enough to know if she's a bitch or not, but I do believe that she gets what she's getting what she deserves.

This is, what's that syndrome where you start feeling sorry for your captors? Stop home no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, doubles down on the stupid shit that he says, it's out. No, she is a con. Forget it. Yeah. And it could be a sign of her age because she is pretty young still. But her, it's funny to watch her go on Twitter or Reddit.

And like on Reddit, I've seen posts where I'm like, look, I'm no gene Dixon, but I'm going to go ahead and say this is definitely April because no one else would be this mad about people talking shit about steel tell. You know, like it's her voice. It's her. It's it has almost has her inflection, you know, there's a there's a word that gets thrown around between all these people that argue amongst themselves coping or keep coping or and there was a thread that you sent over to me that yes, it was her voice 100% in that steel toe boring show subreddit. Keep coping, keep coping. Okay, we know it's you take the fucking mask off. Yeah, just just say like, fuck you. This is what

we're doing. Like, you know, when I used to look and I can't even attribute this to my age, just my fucking ignorance and free time. But like when we first started our podcast, I can like 2010 or so, like I went on and argued with people regularly, oh, you don't like the show. Go fuck yourself. La, blah, blah, blah. When we got the TV show, I argued with people and one guy, I threatened out, you know, he was like,, you know cuz my cuz of my hair He's like you know this guy looks like a dumbledore fucked a mushroom and I went on there and I'm like blah blah blah blah blah and it was only years later that I was like you know what he was right Like the guy was right. I

My hair was totally fucked. I look like stuttering John at that point like I just stepped off the fucking Mayflower I'm letting it grow out. It's I'm in in between right now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So as I talked about, Aaron got fired from the Minnesota radio gig for a, he went on a long rant about the woman that got his job. I pulled a clip of it and I will say if you go listen to it, if you have my sense of humor, it's fucking funny.

This chick is toast. We're bullying today. King Kong dong says, are you mad that a girl got chosen over you? Okay, no, but first of all, I'm upset that a girl was allowed on a morning radio show. Number two, yes. Heather has her own website and it has audio clips. Get in there and start bullying them on Facebook. Oh, she's got a website. Oh, she's got a website. Oh, she's got a website. Yeah, he goes on for roughly, let's call it five, 10 minutes,

wishing that the dogs that are in her car would eat her for lunch and making fun of her for being obese. It's, it's fucking funny. I don't, I don't care. I think it's because he didn't have to spend any time thinking how he was going to throw out super chats and rumbles and pay pals and all that. So he was able to just go in and scream and holler. He's operating on pure emotion. He's not second guessing or thinking or being like, Oh, what are the numbers or what's fucking the chat saying or any number of things? Right. He was pissed. But he did, he definitely took a page out of those early like, like the opening Anthony shit, like we're going to bully her. We're going to call

her. We're going to pretend she's racist. We're going to call her names. It's like, again, I have done shit that I look back and I'm like, why the fuck did I do that? But this is like next level, like start telling people that another person is racist trying to ruin the reputation. Yeah, but the other thing to keep in mind is he was probably talking to hundreds of people at the time. I have no idea what a mid-Minnesota radio market is, but I can't imagine that they're people talking about it around the water cooler. Right. It was like St. Cloud. I pretty sure they said it was like 12,000 people in the market, something like that. It was pretty low. Okay. So as we talked about, we watched the episode immediately following their live event. They had a nine year anniversary at some biker bar in, They had a nine year anniversary at some biker bar in I think stonies, stonies.

Yeah. They had who genome biscante and whatever his girlfriend's name is a kiano. Yeah, kiano. So they flew them out. If you're tight with her, they flew them out to stonies and put them up went golfing. Like if you interact or you pay attention on Twitter, you can see they documented everything from when they came in to take them golfing, cooking them breakfast, the whole fucking nine yards was disgusting.

The thing to keep in mind in all of this is this was a on Geno side. This was a financial transaction. This was a paid gig. No, do you think you got paid what they were claiming? I heard the number four grand. I heard. I heard four grand a piece for each of them. Yeah. But fucking way. Well, I dude, no way. So I can't imagine at four grand a piece that's eight grand, the room holds, I think 150 to 200 people, let's say, I don't know how much the tickets were, but they said they sold out. I it doesn't seem like there's enough money to do

anything with. Let's say tickets were even 50 bucks each and you know they weren't. So if it holds 200 people, that's what, 10,000. Yeah. Yeah. So cut that way the fuck down by the way. I don't know, like 90%. Cut that way the fuck down and divide it by two.

And then probably a little closer to. And I am a, I am of a Geno Biscante friend. So anything I'm saying is just, these are just my feelings. I'm not gonna bash Geno because I do enjoy Geno. I don't know, Keanu. I don't know enough about her actually to bash her, but I did notice like you were saying, like they documented every single moment of this,

this, this gets together, this outing. Why is it that, and April even mentions it, she's like, you know, people get mad that we have friends and she's right. I'm like, why do I begrudge the steel toes, their capacity for happiness and friendship? So I look at it differently. I don't give a shit who their friends with or if they have friends. What I give a shit about is, okay, if I give you $10,000, Brian, will you come to Kansas and hang out with me for the day?

Sure, well, friend. Okay. And then if I get on Twitter and start talking about about I'm just hanging out with my best friend, Brian We're doing whatever it is that we do. I don't know But it's fucking fake and phony, you know, especially if everybody if I talk about it the the week before that I just Why are you 10 grand? Yeah, and also it was the first time they met They're just hanging out. I feel that like, Steelto, while being a dope,

he does think ahead. And I think that he sees like a geno, for whatever reason, he sees a geno friendship as yet another, like just like making his way a little bit more into that compound door since Anthony loves Gino so much. Oh for sure Yeah, and you know, and I think that's probably one of my issues with what I picked up on Aaron is He is attempting to be methodical not genuine Yeah, I don't yeah, okay, we'll listen to a clip

Okay, so like I said this is them talking about how successful they're, their night anniversary live show was. How many we have about 170 by the time it was all said and done almost 200. Oh, 52. About 200 people probably in and out, but comedy show about 170. Okay. So he does this thing throughout the episode where how many people did we have? 170. All right. So we had a couple hundred people. So like I said, there were 300 people there with 400 people. It's like that old joke, the old Jewish joke. You know, can I borrow $10? Why do you need $5? That whole thing? Right. It's the reverse of that. So, so this, I'm going to jump ahead just a little bit in the episode and this, this is them referring back to the, the number

of people at the event. The biggest thing about the people who hate our show is that I was one of two things was going to have to happen when they were confronted with this event. They were going to what they should have done is just shut up and take the L. Yes, because otherwise they'd have to admit we had fun. Don't even mention the L. Just move on from it. Don't talk about it. That would have been the smart thing to do. Now what they've had to do is watch other people talk about how fun it was, how many hundreds of people were there, what a big show it was, and they just have to go, no, and they have to lie to themselves.

All right. So here's my view of this live show and we'll get through it jumping around in the clips, but there's 170 people there. They have Geno Bisconte there, which I believe Geno Bisconte is a well-known comedian or at least a known comedian, right? I think he's known in New York. I don't, again, much love the Geno, but I don't think he's a household name.

And like, I know people who do cons for days on end, like three days. And I'm not talking like, like zealisters. I'm talking about people with names and they don't make $4,000 in those couple days. You're still stuck in a band that. $4,000 in a night. Yeah, but times two, come on. Like these people are scraping every day with the goal and shit. Like the only way they pay to make $8,000 is if the average handler really ponied up The only way they paid them $8,000 is if the image handler really ponyed up and paid for the everything. So my, my thought was, okay, so if they had 170 people there and there's, so, Geno Bisconte

stand up fans, Geno Bisconte in hot hot water fans, then the regulars, the regular bikers that go and then the locals that are familiar with steel toe. I think, I think in and around that is probably pretty close to 150, 170 people. I don't, I don't think what I'm getting at is I don't think it was like a WATP event where you have people flying in from all over the country just to come to this. Uh, and except for Gina and Keiana. Those are the only two. Yeah, I agree. Out of that 170, you know, if you're going to break it down, the people that would be there

on a Saturday night was it? I can't remember what night it was. Friday or Saturday night, whatever. I think that would probably be high anyway because it's a small town. It's a small area. It's a biker bar, it's where people go to hang out on the weekends anyway. So they're like, oh, there's an event. Oh yeah, you know that guy who does the radio thing or whatever, he's gonna be here. I don't know. Well, there's this guy.

Call the woman obese once because he lost a job. All right, then I do enjoy April though, in that moment though, she's like one line that she says is she's like, you know, if they, if they watched it or they saw it, then they would have to admit that we had fun. It's like the last thing in the world I need in my life is to convince someone else that I had fun doing something like who gives a fuck? No, nobody is questioning whether you had fun. Nobody gives a shit if you had fun. That's not what is up for debate.

What is up for debate is, and they're the ones making this a debate because they spend the first hour of this episode talking about it. Had they talked about news stories and shit like that, then that's what clip I would have pulled. Yeah, more stories about cows with offensive names, which in all honesty, that's probably a story

that we talk about on whose right. So I can't fault them for that. No, no, definitely no. Yeah, it wasn't the story to me. It was the April's just like complete befuddlement of like how are people offended by this? It's like, because it's 2023 dummy. That's how. So this is going on again. They're referencing how many people were at the event.

Girl says I like crow crowding in and only the top 200 being there is better. I mean, 300 people can still show up when we did have hundreds of people there. It's a party and they know. But, uh, so keep in mind, they started at 170. Now it's just common knowledge that they could have hundreds of people or they had hundreds of people. And then I went back and looked through, I think this was April's Twitter post. It says, well, we have sold out every seat we can possibly cram in. SteelToe always sells out. Anniversary show sold over a week in advance. Thank you all so much.

And this clip I'm about to play, if you listen very closely, you can hear that he starts to say that they could go to a bigger venue that holds 200 and, and then he stops himself and decides to add that he could probably have fit another 50 to 100 people in at the fucking tailpipe tap or wherever the fuck it was that they were. With two bucks says I want to be there next year. If you don't suck by then, LOL07. Thank you, buddy. Wallsball says you need a bigger venue

for the anniversary show. I like it. I like the fact, you know, they say scarcity creates demand. Yeah. I guess we could move it to like a two one, I mean, we sold it out a month and a half. Well, it was a month and a half an event, or a week and a half in advance, I'm sorry.

We probably could have gone to 250, maybe 300. I think we could have. I just like the idea of it filling up in the place being packed and loud. I like that atmosphere. Not only that, I just like the idea of it being at stonies. I love what Cheetos does for us. I like that venue in general.

And see how she stopped herself right before saying venue. It's a biker bar in the middle of Minnesota. That is not a venue. Yeah, that would not qualify as a venue. And if anybody lives near Stoneys, could they quick pop in and see what the maximum capacity for the venue is? I'm curious to know because Aaron talking about like,

unless there were people standing outside waiting, then what do you mean you could pack in another so you're saying you could have sold more tickets. It can't be that everybody there bought tickets. There's just no fucking way. I would bet that the unless they were like five bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was thinking that the regulars that are that are there probably got some tickets. I don't fucking know. I had to comp some people because there's some people like wait, I was thinking that the regulars that are there probably got some tickets. I don't fucking know. I had to comp some people because there's some people like, wait, I got a stony's every Saturday night now because this fucking man boob freak decides he wants to talk shit in front of a bunch of people.

I have to pay money. It is the only place within 30 miles of here and you're going to make me pay $8 to come here and drink a beer. Yeah, listen to the musings of a geno Bisconte who I noticed also with with Aaron another thing he does with a compound people is he'll call him Bisconte or he'll call him Kumia like he has this familiarity with them that he's trying to breed. Yeah, that's that's I'm not smart enough to articulate why I hate this motherfucker now, but I do and it's that shit. It's it's the posturing and the double talk to gaslighting all the

yeah, speaking of which I meant to adjust my posture. This is how I need to talk if I'm going to do the steel toe school of broadcasting. You always have to talk like totally to the side and talk like this. All right. So, oh, since we're talking about the people in the crowd, I got a couple clips here of them. So we're jumping now over to further head in the episode. They were going through all the pictures that April had taken, like a photo gallery, like when you go on vacation or your parents would go on vacation and make you sit through the pictures because like in my case, they wouldn't take me with them. So then you have to sit there and, okay,

here's where we were at the Grand Canyon, here's where so on and so forth. They're doing the same thing with all the pictures that April took on their show. This guy, okay, so this guy drove from Wisconsin as an in-hot water fan. We had a lot of Floridians, you know, different states. Oh, high ins. Oh, high ins. Illinois ins. Seattle ins. Seattle ins. Who made the trip out, made the pilgrimage to the anniversary show. It was awesome to have them.

But this guy was awesome. He was, he's a big in-hot water fan two hours away in Wisconsin. And he was like, Geno's height man only. Not only that, he has a in-hot water tattoo on his chest from when Aaron Berg was still around. And he is the one who gave Geno the infamous blazer. That he. So I cut that off early. I meant to trim that up. But all I was getting at is, okay, now if we're putting together a murder board of the people that were at this event, we know for sure there was a certain part of the population that came specifically to watch Geno. Yeah. And two hours with an in hot water tattoo on his chest. That's like shoot the like shoot dime bag Darryl type shit, you know? That's a guy you don't want in your crowd. So I'm not

pro, uh, Biscante or anti Biscante, other than when he ruined my appearance on WATP, talking about the writer's strike. That's the only question I've got against him. But I would not want anybody near me that has a in-how water tattoo. You know, I used to feel that way until I saw several Tellum Steve Dave tattoos and then you talk to the people and you're like, like I used to have a Calvin and Hobbs tattoo on my back

and I'm like, I guess it's not that different, you know? I mean, on a personal level, I find it weird, but if they're that into the show, I'm like, I guess it's not that different. You know, I mean, on a personal level, I find it weird, but if they're that into the show, I'm like, I got it, I guess. But then again, Calvin and Hobbs aren't real people, so maybe I don't get it. We have a, who's right has a listener that recently got our logo tattooed on their ass? Oh, yeah.

And yeah, I don't want to be a girl. No. Damn. No, it is a pudgy guy. And I don't want him around, like, I wouldn't allow him be a girl. No, damn. No, it is a pudgy guy. And I don't want him around. Like, I wouldn't allow him near me. Fuck that. How are you going to see the tattoo picture, I guess? Picture, yeah.

Was it a bet? Like, why the placements interesting? He just, he wanted a tattoo and that was it. Gina also, I didn't see any pictures of this. I saw a lot of pictures of April and Kano looking cute, doing the peace sign pictures, all that. I did not see any photos of Gino's vomitus all over Stilto estates.

Because from what I understand, Gino got very drunk, very drunk and very sick and puked up all over Steel Toes home. That's awesome. I hope he pissed their bed, dude. Oh, that would be great. Yeah. And anything he could leave behind, you know, any kind of DNA matter would be great. All right.

This is them going on talking about a black guy that was at their show. Bubba, the black guy there is going, fucking say it. You God damn it. You do it I'm like no, I don't what he's doing the Samuel L Jackson thing. So I graduated with Bubba and him and I were going back and forth online So yet another part of the population that is just people they went to fucking high school with yeah Yeah, like they know almost everyone personally who's at their show. Yeah So this is this is some fucking pocket. Like, you have to almost admire the balls

or pity the obliviousness that he would leave radio and go and do this and drag his wife into, well, his girlfriend at the time, drag his girlfriend into it who has no experience broadcasting. But there are many times where I'm like, she's funnier than he is. When April's gonna be funny, she'll like, look to the side and she like talks out the side of her mouth

when she's got a little bomb to drop on him. And most of the bombs I have to say are about Aaron being gay. Or about Aaron being gay or a liar. Gay or a liar. Yeah, like she calls him out when he says something that isn't true. My wife does that. I fucking can't stand it. You know, it's like you're fudging number here there. And then she's right there to be like a fucking accountant or something. So I've got an example of that. This is so I didn't pull this off of this episode. This is from the Steel Toe boring show subreddit. This looks like it was posted by Maznack too.

You want to hear a noble gentleman thing I did. I was hanging out at this house. My friends and I would all hang out with this, hang out at this house in St. Cloud. That was all girls. And they were all pretty good looking to wow, like to varying degrees. Okay. And I would just kind of like, I would have taken it from any one of them that, you know, threw a little, you know, stupid, gross, drunk pussy at me. But one of them, I was, you know,

it was going pretty well on a Saturday night. And then on Sunday, they called me and said, hey, do you want to come out and go watch the football games at MCs or whatever? Sounds good. And I'm thinking, oh, it's going to be a group of us, you know, whatever we'll see. I'm like, all right, you know what? Fine. It was just her and I. She wanted to go watch the football games with you boy. Well, the problem is you boy, back then 21 or I think I was 21. Didn't pick up on signs that a girl would give you. She's not gonna invite just you out somewhere, dummy.

Aaron didn't get that. That's the first glaring like runway lights sign. By the time Aaron realized that this young lady maybe wanted to find out the way my dick takes. I had let her get far too intoxicated. I want to cheap you, honey. No, no. That's, I've been there before.

Some guy puked at once. We went to a room and I, listen to what a gentleman I am. I realized she was in no state to do anything and that I could have ended up with some kind of problem on my hitch. Some kind of problem on my hand. I put her in the bed.

I just stared at her a little bit. He's fondling. Like I could. I didn't realize that the two of us had something going there. And I think you're about a little bit. I know. We both got too drunk. I couldn't pull it back.

By the time I knew something was going on, I couldn't reel it in. And so I go to bed. And when I wake up, I slept on like a bean bag chair thing in her room. I was gonna say you could have just laid down to read both got clothes on. Okay, but when I woke up in the morning, she had a giant piste in all over the bed.

She pissed herself. She was so shithead. Oh my god. And did I get another chance at it? No, because after that she said, I have to quit drinking. It's becoming a problem. So this woman.

Well, I'm having a problem with this story. Okay. I very much feel like I've been told this exact same story by your best friend. What do you mean? Like it happened to him, but it's the identical story. I'm just not realizing.

Oh, the Tinder date. No. I feel like you two are sharing a story now. Which story? The one you're telling. No, this is my story. He was nowhere near. He was nowhere near this story.

No, wait, hold on, which friend? No, no, no, no. I know about the other Tinder one. No, he didn't hang out with this group of people. No, this is a. He's sus, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, somewhere and then it's just like he slowly talks himself into a corner and she won't let up. She's got him and she's shaking them now. April, April might be the hero we didn't know we needed. Yeah, I think she could, if she was to get away from him or even if they were to just get away from this style of show, they could probably do something. Like they have to just get away from this style of show they could probably do something like they have to go somewhere

else on the internet because everybody fucking hates them now. You know I When I found out that we were gonna do this I put some feelers out there people that I know that that dislike them and Ask for some help digging up some of these clips and shit The shit the people sent me is fucking mind blowing. Like fucking divorce papers and shit. Like, I don't want any of that shit. Like I just want him talking about how good of a broadcaster he is. That's all I care about.

I don't care about all his personal shit. There's a thread I said to you, you didn't have time to watch it because I'm giving you up to the minute updates on steel telling shit. And somebody had posted something about his proposal and you watch it and you're just like this is it's it's it's at the steel steel toe boring show if you want to go check it out it's today what's today's date the 20th so you'd have to

go back to the 20th it's it's really a fascinating insight to the way he operates. There's a moment where he'll spoil it a little bit. He's proposing and he has two of his kids bring the ring to her and April's all choked up and stuff and they're like, you're going to get married my dad and you can never leave us. And I was like, but there's no hint of like, oh my God, that's horrible. That she says it and she acts like it's like it's something to be choked up about or to, you know, feel get the feels about.

And it's like, well, what about the mom? What about the real mom? You know, do they, they don't, do they think that the dad left her? Like I couldn't figure it out Like did they think that steel toe left or actually the room left? I don't know daddy thinks you're dumb enough to stay around for a while. Will you be our new mommy? Yeah, exactly You wonder man you wonder like what was it like what was steel toes game?

Did she think he was more famous than he was when she just impressed with that? He was on the radio at all. Because they're rumors that she had stepped out on her former boyfriend, or possibly Foy Piazza. I'm not even sure what he was. And honestly, I don't really even give a shit about any of that. All I know is if she's happy listening to him him talk about how popular he is good for her.

Like have fun with it. I'm not questioning how much fun she's having. I want to make that clear. Yeah, we admit it. We admit it. She was having fun. Oh, I think that got another example here of her kind of fucking up his story. So here's the setup. What we're, what we're finding out about me is that I overplay, we overplay on the show, how fat I am. We overplay how big my tits are. And we underplay how gigantic my hands are and how badly I could mangle any of you who step out of line. All right. So we just established that he's a fucking bad ex. Right. So here's a story of him talking about a fight he was in. This is also from the subreddit to can

Sam. Thank you for posting this. I think the last time I heard you freestyle, you were getting choked out at a wedding. And that wasn't even freestyle. And that was just like when John Cena would freestyle and just talk and like in rhymes. Yeah, it was more like a John Cena promo freestyle. Well, yeah, they wanted me to do that to one of my, my buddies. Your buddy. Yeah, because we were, we were just kind of busting each other's balls and they were like, Oh, freestyle battle, freestyle and we're fucked up at a wedding.

So I start talking shit about him in rhyming fashion and it was so painful. I'm sure if you were the other people because he had nothing. It was pretty sad. And I would just sit there and wait for him and then I'd go, all right, never mind. I got another one.

And then when I stood up after that, he got up, came up behind me and started choking me. Just put his arm around me and started choking the shit out of me. And I just, what I remember, my first thought as he choked me was, you're at your friend's wedding, don't do anything. Like, don't retaliate. This is your butt. Like, even in that moment, I kind of, there was that feeling of, I'm not really in any danger. It's like when somebody at a bar like pushes you, you're like, okay, there's no danger here.

There was also enough people around. Yeah, and that's kind of my thinking. I was like, you're at your buddy's wedding. And I had to wear with all his drunk as I was to think this. I went, you look really good right now. He looks really shitty right now. Put your arms out. Don't do anything. Go to the ground. You'll look great. He'll look like a piece of shit. And that's what I did. And that's

that's how that's how it worked out. It was everyone coming up to me going, are you all right? He's fucking crazy. The nerve of that fucking asshole. Like, yeah, what do you do? You know? He's a f***. So I've been in my share of altercations. It was a big part of me growing up. And there are times when I found myself in the same position where my arms were flailing and I was being either gently late on the ground

or thrown somewhere and then ending up on the ground. And not one of those times was it, I had to wear with all to curl up in the fetal position and protect it. My wife and I have this cute little thing where she's like she's unsuspecting, I'll come up behind her and like throw my arm around her and choke her out real fast and I won't throw her on the ground but I like I'll layer down all gently and shit. And if she's on to me, she does the same thing I ran just described. Instead of trying to fight back, yeah, she just put her arms out and just like sink to the ground so I can't get her. Yeah, Aaron, there was another clip on, I feel like it's all 2K and Sam that puts these off. He's amazing with his clips, but there was a clip on on Reddit where Aaron was saying that he would train

April for a boxing. She was talking about boxing, and he said he would train her. And I'm thinking like, if I'm going to get a boxing trainer, I definitely don't want it to be a guy who got knocked out in under 10 seconds by another dude. Yeah. You know, and then it gave me even further idea, what about a fetish video starring April called training April? And it's like Chad, like Chad's the star because he's the guy. He could be the disciplinarian. And then April's the sub because she's eventually going to have to do

only fans, right? I mean, there's no doubt about it. I would say that the money is, if you're going to bet on it, yes, at some point, either she's got to go back to the factory or start an only fans. That's what it's going to boil down to. Right. Did she really work at a factory? It was a factory, right? What do you know what she did there? I have to assume she was a smelly welder. Smelly welder. She definitely is more like, she has more machismo than Aaron does. Like she's out there fishing and hunting and putting roofs on and all kinds of shit. Like she and her dad are roofing while Aaron sits downstairs fucking

Massage and nipple cream and shoes fucking tits. Yeah, so I just said I don't want to talk about their personalize Do you know? I would like to talk to her father to find out what his opinion is of his son-in-law That's what I want to know. Dude, how disappointed are you? Because everyone, especially, that's the tough thing with small towns like that too, is like, if you start, like, you know, you hear about these young girls, it's like they were great in their school play or they were so pretty that they were a model and they go out to Hollywood and ensure in their small town,

it's like, oh my God, you're a fucking 10. But out in LA, you're like more like a five to six. That kind of shit. I think they call that shop hot, right? What do they call it? Shop hot? Yes, yes. Yeah. So poor April. No, No, no, she said yes. She volunteered for this. She did say yes, but is it her again? Is it her age? Was she just blinded by a guy who she thought was famous? And then like I said, it's like you're in a small town.

So everybody's expecting big things from you. And so when you know you're out there doing radio and you start calling people fat and saying they don't like black people and you have to return. I mean it's not like April's dad didn't know about that. So although the other day, Steele Toe was saying the April grew up when they were talking about that cow. They were talking about how April grew up in extremely racist town. So carried over a little bit. I don't know. I'm sure it did. And I'm sure maybe if she grew up in an extremely racist town, it was an extremely poor town. And she is big time. Now, maybe this is her version of big time. Maybe I could.

Could be. SteelToe, I talked a little bit of shit about him. I can't even remember what show it was on. It might have been WATP,T-P, but Stilto said that given the same circumstances as me, Brian Johnson, he would have run that football much farther than I did. He would have done much more with the relationship to Kevin Smith than I did. And that's when I knew Stilto was 100% of pieces shit

because Kevin Smith was always my friend first. Right. I didn't think like, well, what position can I attain? What can I do? Where can I go with my association with Kevin? It's like, sure, things came from it. Absolutely. But like that, that never was because maybe I would have done more, but he was always my friend first.

So I just don't understand, like, what would steel toe have done? And I'm sorry, dude, but you're in the middle of fucking Minnesota In some fucking small town going this the Stoneys venue for your ninth anniversary show. It's like I live in a real state Yeah, I live in New Jersey All right, so I'm I'm right in the middle of Kansas. So yeah, fuck New Jersey I actually like Minnesota a lot. We went out there to do mall rats. It was beautiful. It was really nice out there. Oh, with your friend Kevin Smith, you wouldn't have been in that movie if it wasn't for your friend Kevin Smith. You know what?

You're 100% right. It's such a fucked up mentality and it's again, it's just, I'm not smart enough to articulate it, but what you just said, that's all he, to him, everybody is upon. What can he get out of the relationship with this person? And when he realizes that he can't get anything, then he just turns on him. And it'll happen with his best friend, Biscante. It'll happen with April. Hopefully it happens with Carl

and Carl can distance himself, but who am I? Yeah, Carl got himself into a bad position where it's like he got too friendly with him, so he can't turn around and then shit on steel toe. And also, like you said earlier, today, I feel like if Carl did it, it would never be good enough for anybody. You know, like as hard as Carl goes after some people, if he went equally as hard as steel toe, that wouldn't be enough.

The expectation would be like, kill him murder. And and these again, I want to get back to the clips, but these, these fucking people that want you to dox and, and make it personal, go after X's and all that divorce papers, that's fucking mind blowing to me. Like stop doing that. There's plenty of shit on this show for five people to have full time jobs, just pulling clips and talking shit. You don't have to go anywhere outside of the show. Dude, the four minute proposal clip that you can put up, I'm like, that's enough to get through 20 minutes of show.

Yeah, like, yeah, you know, I couldn't agree with you more. Like when when Chad was talking about docs and cartif, and this one's gonna dox this one, and this one's gonna go after Gina Levy and all this other shit, it's just like enough with the fucking like leave. Everybody's families out of it. Like, they're not a part of it.

Like have some level of fucking respect. Oh, right, fuck. Oh, fuck it. So good. I'm gonna go back to when they are watching, they're in this clip, they're now watching Anthony Cumia, a clip from his show where he's got Chrissy Mayer on and they're looking at pictures of the live event and discussing it. The picture that's up on the screen

is a picture of Kiano and Geno and April and Aaron. And I want you to pay very close attention to April's comment at the end of the clip. It must be nice to have friends. I just following another comedian's social media so closely that you like know what they're doing. Right. Right. Know what they're doing and you can't possibly. Oh yeah.

Like that looks fine. I love Anthony's take on it because that was my take on the zoom-on thing was like she knows like why the fuck would he write that? I'm like, I know it makes him look retarded. It makes him look like he doesn't know what friends do. Look at look retarded It makes him look like he doesn't know what friends do look at this and it makes him look like he doesn't have any friends This is all of my favorite people all my favorite talents in one picture Speechless I maybe I really I heard that and I got those chills. Like what the fuck is wrong with you?

You're looking at a picture of you and your husband and then the two people that you paid to come entertain your fans. And your first thought is this is my four favorite talented people. You're fucking weird. Yeah, I mean, then you don't know that many other people. I don't even think I'd cut the top 100 if my wife was like, who are your top favorite entertainers? I don't think I would make it in there. Little

own April. And again, it's like, you fucking just met them. Literally that when they came out for the show, that was the first time they met. How can these be your favorite people already, your favorite personalities or entertainers or whatever she said? Well, I'm going to kind of go out of order here, but here's, I'm going to, I'm going to wrap that part of it up for now of how close they are. I'm going to wrap that part of it up for now of how close they are. I figured those two would come here. They'd be very polite, kind, funny, but like there's not a close connection there. And then they show up and he's pretty much just like you. She's pretty much just like me. We all got along famously.

And I just feel like I have friends now that are just all the way across the country and I got to see him more. I don't know you can afford that. Yeah. They're pricey. Yeah, you blew all your money flying them out the first time. You probably could have gotten out to see him a few times. Well, I'm sure April is also like I would love to see New York. You know, I mean, I don't know why, but maybe, uh,

know, I mean, I don't know why, but maybe, uh, Geno can pay us $15,000 and fly us out to New York and hang out with him. Yeah, everything just keeps increasing exponentially. Yeah, uh, yeah, because they do, they, when they do the compound thing, they, they don't go to New York. So I don't, I don't know that they've ever actually been in studio. I could be wrong. I don't know. I don't have the, I don't track them on their phones. So they may have gone to New York already, but I feel like April settling. It's just purely my thoughts. Is that April settling because it's like, well, what else am I going to do? She, for whatever reason, they think that an association with compound is going to rocket them into the stratosphere of

broadcasting, which from personal experience, I can tell you, it does not work in a compound. And if I'm not mistaken, Anthony is moving the South Carolina. I don't even know how much longer Anthony will be there. So it's like, I mean, if this was again, like the vice special, if this was the year 2000, and you were going to get on, you know, you were doing some both Anthony, that would mean a fuck ton. But these days it's like. And not only that, you know, getting on a. Anthony show would give you exposure, but all that does is expose you and your. exposure, but all that does is expose you and your fraudulent activities to a larger group of people.

It's just because you're exposed to them doesn't mean that they're going to hang out with you. Yeah. And even if they did get a show on compound, it's like, I don't ice and searly doubt it's paying enough for them to, you know, if they're meeting that goal every day, whatever their goal is, is it a hundred and fifty or something? I thought it was like three fifty, but oh, wow. What I don't understand about their goal is, is it a 150 or something? 150 day? I thought it was like 350, but what I don't understand about their goal, because I quit trying to keep up with them, like I said, months and months ago.

But they're, if they're always hitting their goal, and if they exceed their goal, it rolls over to the next show. Wouldn't they end up having a free show at some point where there is no goal because they've surpassed it? If they were doing things fairly and saying and being appreciative, sure. Oh, but I don't think yeah, being appreciative doesn't pay the bills. I think they're like, fuck that shit. We need to fucking keep on doing it.

It's just, it's anxiety inducing. I don't like it. You know, like if if that were how I made money, like I'm like every day I have to hope that today isn't the day that in mass superchotters are like, fuck it. I just don't feel like giving more money, you know. Even with Patreon, you have that. People dip out all the time on Patreon, you know? Oh, yeah, that back before they changed their their billing cycle, you used to have that drop after the first of every month is like, Oh, okay, nobody likes me anymore. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.

So the the daily grifting to me, the daily can rambling is, it would be too much. I wouldn't have the stomach for it. So either either stronger, they have more fortitude than I do, or they're just more delusional than I am. I think that it can keep up forever. Even like MLC, you watch MLC and in the couple months ago, in the heyday of those super chats, you're like, what the fuck this guy's cleaning up, Kevin Brennan. But then after you watch a while, you're like, it's the same shit. It has to dry up after a little while. And I believe that's what's happening now is it's like, you can only yell so much about Raidavido or Chad or Barry Ribs or Mike Machete or fucking ski mask. You know, it's there. There is something to be said though about someone's will to not have a real, real

job. And that can drive a lot of behavior. Yeah. Oh, I know. I know. All right. So apparently Aaron fancied himself a stand up comedian. Yes. He wears a shirt. I couldn't figure this out where he wears a shirt frequently that says hack comedian.

I agree with the first part, but the second part, the comedian part, I'm like, I was like, because what he does, I do a comedic podcast. I still don't consider myself a comedian. So unless he does stand-up or has done stand stand up, I didn't understand the shirt. So you're telling me he does do stand up or has. I seem to remember a video of him doing stand up and getting boot off the stage. I could be all wet on this, but that's what I remember. But this is this is him talking about his career as a stand up comedian.

Paul Arnellson says, I want to hear your stand up. It's not really stand up. I kind of host the show. I keep it moving. I do some crowd work with the audience. I fuck around. I do some impressions and some bits. I kind of retired from stand up a while ago because I didn't want to write Joe, two lazy or right jokes. Plus I get to perform in front of hundreds of my own fans. They eat up whatever I do. Well, who wouldn't want it that easy? The only people who think, you know, who don't like that or look down on it are people who don't get to do it and they're jealous.

Did you, this just came to me, but did you notice how often April tries jumping in and adding and he just steam rolls over? Just, it's like she's not even there. I did notice that, yeah. You also like anytime somebody isn't funny and doesn't have the ability to write stuff, they always say they're too lazy to do it.

Like that seems to be the easy out. Oh, I'm just too lazy to do it. It's like no, you can't do it. Otherwise you would do it. Because where's this Aaron that's gonna fucking exploit every single avenue that Kevin Smith would provide, you know? You know, like if you're that funny and you can go do stand-up,

then why wouldn't you do that as well? I'm just too lazy. Yeah, just too lazy, I guess. I have no problem with waking up at 5.30 in the morning and getting my 10 cup and begging for money for four hours. Four days a week and then at night, too, right? Like a Sunday night or something. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I wouldn't have that much to talk about, man. I would board. I mean, he does. But I'm like, even like, I feel like I would bore the fuck out of people.

You're asking me to talk 20 hours a week. Oh, so this is perfect segue. So I put together a supercut because he claims to be a professional broadcaster. Now I am not a professional broadcaster or a professional broadcaster. I'm not a professional anything. Okay. So I have crutch words. I'm not good at this. I get it. I don't give a fuck. I do the best that I can. I don't get on here and start telling everybody how good I am, which is what he does, which is why everybody hates him So I put it together a super cut of his crutch words. I Believe this is this is all from one episode. I believe this to be the longest super cut in watp history

So I'm gonna be watching you for guidance I want you to throw your hands up when you've had enough because it goes and goes and goes hands up when you've had enough because it goes and goes and goes. I got to know me who kind of takes people at face value and kind of knows the game and as a professional broadcaster. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I I I I There's two minutes left. Okay. I got it. I I I I heard an April in there. Yeah, even April go wouldn't yeah, I can't come down on too hard for that because like when I'm cutting our show

There's a lot of ums that I pull out. I have that But you don't go you don't get on and just spend a half hour talking about how good of a fucking broadcast where you are no I don't even think I've ever spent half a minute talking about it You can't you can't be in this in this in this business or game or whenever the fuck you want to call it and act like you're infallible because like and that was like one of my problems with Shule when I went after Shule is I'm like the things that Shule goes after John for are things that have also happened to Shule green screen accidents boogers in the mustache, you know, this, that,

and when I did go after, well, I mean, I went head to head with Shuley and hopefully, stilto people aren't gonna come after me the way Shuley's anonymous did. I'm a Shuley ball washer. I suck Shuley's dick, you know, all because I didn't come out and assassinate him, like say a Kevin Brennan would do or, so I'm like, I don't hate Shule.

I never hate it Shule. Like, that's what people don't get is like, like, like, SteelToe. It's like, you can't hate them. You don't even know them. But like, you know, as people, but you can get a pretty good idea of what they're like and you can have a pretty intense dislike for them.

But like, on a person level to hate somebody, I mean, they have to really do something to me that I'm like, I want this motherfucker dead. SteelToe and company, I'm like, it would just be cool if they, if they just went away, did something else. Yeah, I saw it. Stop bothering everybody. I would be a hundred percent fake, you know, like if I was to say, I would be happy if they just quit showing up on my feet.

You know what the first step to that is unfollowing them. It's hard though, isn't it? Cause you always want to see what steel to say next. So dumb. I'd never said I was smart, right? All right. So this is them getting into why they don't have their own streaming platform, which I'm sure you thought that's where I was going to go next.

Aaron's period, Pills says Aaron, just start your own streaming platform and then you can do whatever the fuck you want. And I'm sure 2000 of you would come along and, you know, maybe do 10 bucks a month. I don't know. I'm sure you would Isn't that the dream? Here's my problem. I'm only 36. This is relatively very early in my career. You're spring chicken. And I'm only on, you know, I'm on broadcasting probation right now. So this is we're really kind of operating with a hand tied behind our back. And big things growth wise are starting to happen for us now. We're starting to venture into some stuff that we haven't been able to venture into

in a while. And so I don't want to limit our show's growth by just starting our own platform. What? Hold on. Damn it. There we go. Wait, what? I'm telling you, I've got to publicly give Carl and Chris credit, man, this is hard.

Yeah, if you are not on Patreon, on Carl's Patreon, it's crazy because they always say in the beginning, you have two bonus episodes per month, I think he says. But it's so much more than that. Like, I spend 10 bucks a month and I'm like this is easily the best 10 bucks I'm out that I spend on whtp patreon. It's like there's so much content. Now you got who are these socials and who are these broadcasters all kinds of shit. Sucking Carl's dick a little bit of Carl Paul washers. Carl Paul washers. I'm just gonna say it. So let's see what else we got. I've only got a, I think a couple more.

All right. Are you familiar with their, with their coffee company? I am. I know that they're one of these people that, and they're not alone with this kind of shit. I've, I've always been curious about this because we, we make, you know, merchandise, Tom Steve Dave makes merchandise, but it's not like branded merchandise. Like we don't do coffee or hot sauce. And it seems like all these podcasters

are subtly varying to coffee and hot sauce and these types of things that it's very easy to just buy something and slap your name on it. Yeah, so here's an example of that. April's magic bean, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So it says I got my steel toe, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So it says I got my steel toe coffee yesterday and really enjoying it this morning.

Thank you, Camel Toe. By the way, if you guys, if the mods want to post the link, CrescentMountCoffee.myshopify.com, remember there is a whole bean option now. Did here from our supplier today that April's magic bean is looking to be debuted in July. Nobody talks to me. What is April's magic mean gonna be?

Okay, so a couple things on that one She has no input into anything that happens. She's what the GM of steel toe incorporated or whatever Yes, yeah That's your title And the second thing is you know, he said he was talking to his supplier, which it's a white label coffee company, and it's not even his white label coffee company. So it's somebody else, and they're just throwing their label on their coffee. Yeah.

Melton did a deep dive into the whole coffee thing. And it didn't even really need to be that deep because pretty much what we just said was like, yeah, white label coffee doesn't have his name on it. And if April's magic bean was supposed to debut in July, have we seen it yet? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. But I do know that this segment is brought to you by Arizona Bake Coffee dot com, a subsidiary of the Who's Right podcast. Check out a couple of their roasts like Gun Barrel Butt Sex and Big Black Cox. That's Arizona Bay Coffee, the coffee that your dreams dream of.

Here is son of Bay Coffee.com, the coffee that your dreams dream of. Who's right also has their own white label coffee. I'm just thinking about this right now. I'm like, maybe it's because I don't like coffee or hot sauce, but if there was something that I actually liked, maybe I could go white label on that, like maybe some like beard oil or something like that.

I bought a whole bunch of oils one time. I tried to make my own proprietary concoction. It all smelled like shit. So I'm like, fuck it. I'm just gonna buy the regular stuff. Yeah, so we did that with steak seasoning. And it was Anthony, he's real big into that. He's got access to a commercial kitchen

and went through everything, got the, I was working on the labels, he was working on the recipe and he was actually gonna make the batches. We would have had to have sold it for like $35 for a little bit. So we bailed on it and went with coffee because then you just put in some money and somebody will throw a label on your coffee and send it out for you.

Right. Oh, it's that simple. You don't have to send it out yourself for anything. No, no, we don't actually ever see anything other than the money. That's a way to fucking do it. I keep hitting my arm with this fucking awesome scrim pat that Patrick Mellon sent me. All right.

I had other notes about Aaron and April. Let's see. I said, um, April needs to finish her sleeve. That one tattoo. I said April needs to finish her sleeve. That one tattoo. I don't like it. Just take that work with it. Yeah, I just add some more stuff like because she's hot enough. That's the thing about April. Like I know people like to tease her about her forehead and all that shit. But like she's good looking enough that like she,

that she would look pretty fucking cute with like a full sleeve, I believe. Yeah, so. This is me look, I know, I'm looking at myself right now, I'm looking directly at myself, so I know what I look like. So judging April's looks, that's just the way the world works. There's math that goes into the looks.

It's not a simple one through 10 scale. Right, so you have your one through 10 and then you have to start, there's deductions or additions, in her case, it's deductions, right? So you take her, who she is associated with. There's some, she loses some points. Right, definitely. Some of the dumb shit that comes out of her mouth

loses a couple more points and just her attitude in general, she's getting as bad as he is with my best friend, Biscante or whatever the fuck she's talking about. And she's getting down there pretty fucking low. Yeah, she's supportive and it's like it's something everybody would want in a wife to be supportive but she seems to be blindly supportive. And that's something you definitely don't want. Yeah, That if you think about, you know, unless she's calling them on stories

and shit, that's pretty funny. Right. That's what I was going to say when when he is, he was talking, there was something about him, those two talking about their sex life. And she's like, well, I don't come every time. And that got a lot of traction. And that's because she was being genuine for a minute. She was being genuine and he turned it into something about himself where he's gonna take a bunch of shit because he never makes her come and all this other stuff. I mean, you couple that with like,

her constantly calling him gay. And I mean, in the one episode I watched, it was repeated that he's gay or he's a feminine or he's this or that. And at one point, he calls her a pig. Yeah. It's like, what the fuck is going on? So I would watch that all the time, just though what their conversations are over the dining room

table. Yeah. Because you know, she's just belittling the shit out of him. Yeah, you don't want to hear them agree. I think that's it. You don't want to hear them agree. You want to, you want to see shit like him being like, oh man, I almost, and why are you telling your wife this story about how you almost got some ass and then describe

yourself as a noble gentleman because you didn't rape someone. I would have liked to have seen back when she was working in the shop. Her coming in after a 12 hour shift in the heat. And he's editing his fucking shorts or whatever he's doing, talking about how hard his day was at work and asking her when dinner's going to be done. That would have been funny to watch. Yeah, they should do IRL, but this thing that Lisa Jordan is doing now, where they just stream themselves 24 hours a day.

Regardless of what they're doing. So they they have a rule. I don't know if it's still in play. It's just it's referenced here where they get pissed off if the chat talks to each other. Yes. Okay. each other. Yes. Okay. RGZ Mac, calm the fuck down. I've had it. I'm tired of finishing a story going to talk to my audience and you're yelling and bitching about something that I got your back on. Enough. Enough. Last warning. There. I go and I, I, we do a story and we have a lot of fun. Uh, sounds it. Yeah. And then I go, Hey, let's go talk to everybody.

And the first thing I see is RGZ Mac fucking bitching about something that we were nice to you about. He's going back to the Twitch days. You guys get the contract. If he fucking doesn't apologize, who's apologizing? Who's here? RGZ Mac is apologizing to me and the chat for interrupting after we said it's okay. Apologize for being a cunt after we got your back and then fucking be a grote. Guys, be a grown man. We used to have a no cross talk rule.

We haven't enforced that for a long time, but you're supposed to be interacting with the show. Fucking show. But how can they interact? So they're only supposed to comment on things that Aaron and April say? Yes. Oh my God. Like, that's the beauty of the chat. Is that it builds a community? Okay, one guy's bitching about something, but it's like everybody else. Like, I get if you're going gonna ban people who are like anti-steel toe going in there to troll, you see a sucker, whatever. But to have cross talk within the chat band is like, how fucking,

how dictatorial are you guys? Or what eco-tistical I think is probably the right word. And not allowed to talk about anything other than me. If other than steel toe for the next, however long we're gonna be on God forbid they going to overtime I wouldn't wish that on anybody The if I was to stop my show every time I've seen in the chat that somebody was calling me a fat fuck or something Like the show would just never end and those are people that like our show. Yeah

Yeah, we don't we don't do anything like that, like that live stuff. So we don't have chat. Like, all I know is that red us are, our Reddit exists. And I never go to it. Because I can only imagine they're saying the same shit about me and Q and Watt that they're saying about Steelto, they're saying about April, they're saying about you, they're saying about Carl. I want to thank Ram Jamma 69 for that clip. I'm trying to give credit to everybody that all the shit that I stole from the subreddits. I reached out to Patrick Melton trying to get some help from him and he wouldn't respond. So what are you spawning, huh? No.

Patty Bell. What's up with that guy? I'm not far enough on the radar, I think. Oh, wow. So I hate to do this to you, but I put a lot of work into getting all this shit together. So we're going to go through it. I don't care if he uses it, whatever that, but oh, yeah, for sure. I am, I am tired of hearing this man's voice as much as you are, but I'm playing these fucking clips. All right, this is an example.

This was also, again, from the subreddit of victim Bell. It's an example of Aaron doing what he does, which is I just put beating a dead horse. She knows that I can sing, and the biggest thing about me is that I always stop. Pause hold on hold on. The biggest thing about me is that is my blood pressure. The biggest thing about me is my order at a restaurant.

Hey, no, she's giving him nothing. I love it. Yeah. The biggest thing about me is my glucose levels. She knows that I can sing. What's my blood sugar? The biggest thing about me is my cup size. And the biggest thing about me is that what's on the scale. And the biggest thing about me is that what's on the scale. So it's just a number of fat jokes. Yeah. And I'm assuming the lady's fat and and none of them are any good.

No, no. But I guess it's that. Okay, you know, the old saying you throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. You're not supposed to throw it one at a time, like one turn at a time. Yeah, it's just like that's the thing. It's like he's not a funny guy. This is, you know, again, some people, I'm sure, shit, they're left hysterically. There must be a reason Chandler bells them out with the goal and shit unless he's just psychotic and loves to give money to strangers. So some people must enjoy. I just can't figure out why or how. You know what? I don't know if I can set this up in the

amount of time that we have, but I have an acquaintance who is a big fan of steel toe. I can get him on and he could, if you want to have him try to defend. I would love to find out why yes. Like, like, I think it's not a bad thing to give a couple minutes to a steel toe defender or hear the, maybe they'll turn us around. Who knows? All right. I give me one second. You know what? I'm going to play another clip. And while I'm doing that, I'll send that message. This is in reference to John talking shit. I'm sorry. Aaron talking shit about stuttering John's kid. And Patrick says, I mean, you all made fun of stuttering John's kids incorrect. I never did. I would never I think that's gross

I know every time anyone ever brought up that Stuttering John has a trans kid. I said that ain't none of anybody's fucking business See because your kid became trans probably because you're a shitty dad. Well Anthony can say it. I can say it And it says it's that same shit. He thinks he's in that same league. He's not even playing the same fucking sport. One of the notes I wrote down, I was like, Aaron's problem isn't wanting to be someone. He wants to be something which is funny, interesting, or engaging, and that's not going to happen. Yeah, that's like, if Daddy Kumiia can say it, then I can too.

It's like Daddy Cumia says a lot of stuff Daddy Cumia shouldn't be saying. So like repeating what he says is not the greatest plan. Especially when it comes to shit like that. Just leave starring John's kids alone. Just leave him alone. Again, just leave all the kids alone. Like, yeah, it doesn't matter. Families, kids, workplace, real name,

social security numbers, whatever. Just like, it's next level of shittery. Sorry, I'm distracted. I'm trying to get, see if John wants to get in here and I am not nearly as good at this as, as our buddy Carl. Another note, Aaron and April were convinced that the my way fires were said intentionally. That's what they talked about yesterday. What else do I got here? EGN non-PC humor don't necessarily equal funny.

What good is footage from the anniversary show that you can't post because it's so racist? Yeah, that's when they were talking about, I guess it was a genocet or a kiano-set or somebody set. And so much non-PC and racist shit was said that they're like, whoa, we couldn't even play that. It's like then what's the fucking point? Like, what's the good of it?

To make a bunch of fucking red max laugh? Yeah, I, so then he can never see the light of day again. Like, he would think they would have cameras set up so that they could like show this, maybe go through it, whatever. I, I'm on the other side of that. I always go for the low hanging fruit, the easy joke, whatever. I'm good with that, but what I think is, I think that they didn't want it recorded because

of the people that were there. It would be apparent that it is locals and bikers and not steel toe fanatics as they were trying to lead you to believe. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, that's a good point. Because those pictures could have been from anytime really. Now I I would say that the pictures were probably from then, but if you look at the pictures, you can see it's not a bunch of it's a bunch of bikers. Yeah, it's like a bunch of people with best sound, which I would imagine where bikers not toe boys. Toe boys. So I want to get this up on the screen real quick.

It's just something that came across. So what I was going to say is steel toe morning show started in 2014, but their logo started in 2011, which is when the SteelToe Brewing Company started using what I would say is a pretty close logo. What? The SteelToe Brewing, wait, SteelToe Brewing is that a totally separate entity? Yeah, yeah, it's a brewing company in their region in Minnesota. Okay, so you think he saw that and he's like, oh, I like that. Yeah, I can be a morning show.

I can pick PPE, like I could be the metatarsal in the morning or I could be high glasses in the evening or whatever the fuck. All right, I got a, I think I played that steel toe or I'm sorry, the stirring John. Here's a quick one of, I think John's on his way, by the way, a quick one of Aaron being proving himself wrong. Well, so this is Prince Harry talking about, I mean mean you talk about a guy's sipping for a toxic woman this guy is perfect man he is uh... case a for sipping for a toxic woman

he's actually blaming megan being a successful actress for he and his family having a strained relationship i promise you that your dad your brother and your grandma didn't give a fuck about suits. They didn't care about the show's suits. And then you get to this point where you meet the love of your life and you introduce them and... That suits fans. Who would have thought? Oh, well, fuck me, they are suits fans. You doesn't watch the clip first. No, no, and I think that right there, like epitomizes, he is so sure of everything that's in his head without any regard to reality. His arrogance and smugness are like off the charts. That's what I mean. Even that position, even the way he sits is like, I'm going educate you. I'm gonna teach you something right now.

So have you ever caught one of their prize shows? No, very familiar with them though, thanks to Milton. He was trying to shut him down. I pulled a prize show last night and I put together a, I guess you'd call it a super cut, but it's just trying to explain to the WATP audience. I don't know if they do it once every two weeks, once a month, I don't know when they do it, but I don't even know if they still do it anymore after what Melton did to him.

But, it's confusing as fuck, it's like a telephone, it's fucking crazy. Welcome, good evening. Hi, it's the prize show. Oh boy, here we go. Get ready. I got to get into the rules now. $20 super chats or $15 stream labs in PayPal. And that's just to make up the difference in the percentages for YouTube. We're going to be giving away basically $10 to stonies and $10 to Midland Armory. Stonies is local. Midland Armory is national. The 10 bucks will go for, you know, we just have those, you know, I think a buck for the $10. Just so we can keep straight. Who wants them?

We'll probably just go five for the 25 and 10 for the 50 as far as the drawings go, we'll do eight o'clock for the VIPs. If you don't know this, if you're a VIP, you get entered into $100 drawing for these price shows every month. VIPs don't have to be here to win. Members do. We take the number of members we have every month divided by the amount of shows we do, and we knock that much off the daily goal. So it does help.

And April April anything over 40 qualifiers tonight goes towards tomorrow morning. Okay. Remember to get a hold of April. If you want those stickers, some people just want to qualify. They forget about the stickers. Just. Yes. If you, if you bought anything tonight or if you want anything, please message me. The mods will be putting my information in the chat. Get in touch with April, she will send that stuff out. It's so confusing. It's so convoluted.

Yeah, like I was trying to follow along. And all I could think of is like, wait a second. So if you want to win a gift card, you have to donate money or give them money. If you want a chance at winning a gift card to a biker bar in the middle of Minnesota, give us $10 and then there's five for 50 and two for 16 and three. And there's a formula where we do a V look up over here to see if you.

Holy shit, man. Yeah, it seems not worth it or an armory. I get a $5 gift certificate to a gun shop. What the fuck am I going to do with that? I'm going to bring John Jemingo in. John is a, I, I know John to be a fan of, of Steel Toe Morning Show. How are you doing, gentlemen? Hey, John, how are you?

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. So, uh, I apologize for dropping this on you. We had just reviewed Steel Toa. That was my last clip to play and Brian made a comment that he would like to talk to somebody that actually enjoys this show. And I know you enjoy it. So I wanted to give you a chance to come on and defend Aaron and April.

Well for me, it's just a morning show. What I don't get is all the hate. Here's a guy that got either fired or quit radio. I'm not 100% sure what happened. But the only reason I know about this is because I was listening to Misery Love's company and Brennan's yelling, still to sucks, still toes not funny. Still toes doesn't sell tickets. Apparently steel toe does sell tickets. He does. He sells tickets. Okay. So, okay. Do you watch an episode from beginning to end?

No, it's four and a half hours long. I mean, you come in during the day, you stop. It's just like watching a regular radio show. If you're doing something, it's kind of in the background, but I do end up usually listening to the evening show. And you don't at all get tired of the begging. Now, and here's why you donate. Do you give? Okay, this is what I do. I subscribe to the Patreon because this way I get it as a podcast

because I don't like to, well, first of all, I hate YouTube. Second of all, I do sometimes I do donate to the show. Here's why. Doug, you do a show you beg for money. Brian, I don't know if you beg for money or not, but everybody begs for money. If other people would give me money, I would beg for it for sure. Right. So this is what I, this is how, excuse me, how I break it down, 350 in the morning, 250 at night for his shows. And what he does is he asks for people to donate.

And he gets it. So of course he begs, but He's got a beg for it. Oh, so I'm going to stop you, John. I, I just played a supercut of from one episode, the amount of times that he is begging for money. And to, to say that I beg for money, I beg for money one time at the beginning of the show or one time at the end of the show. Now, not it, not, I remember, Doug, we go way back. You would beg for money. And the way you beg for money is different from what he does. He says, you losers should, you know, sign up for Patreon, you losers or something like

that. What he does is he just comes out and begs for it. Now, if you, if you don't like it, I did it in a way that was attempting to be funny, right? Okay. All right. That's fine. What's the difference between him e-begin, which I look at as a commercial that, or playing other commercials. Now, why doesn't he play commercials? Because he does not have enough listeners right now to tell him that he doesn't know that. Sure he does. Of course he does that. Well, he talks about tens of thousands of followers on rumble and I know his YouTube, he keeps trying to approach 10,000 of what people are fucking with him and getting people

to unsubscribe so that he can never hit 10,000. Yes. Now, he went to see, I think his move is to move all the way to rumble and get rid of YouTube I think YouTube's dragging them down, but it's all that sweet sweet Superchat money that you guys all love to go grab John. I I'm gonna tell you right now. I like you as a person, right? You when my house got wiped out by Hurricane you were the first one to step up You just you can you can insult me, Doug. I don't care.

But you're, my opinion of you has dropped so much because I know how much you enjoy good broadcasting and steel toe isn't it. And to sit there and think that you're going to back him, you are dead to me. Whatever. I'm not dead. Here's the problem.

If you want, if I'm dead dead you because I like a show that you don't like to go fuck yourself. And so here's and I'll be 100% honest with you. Does it get all my nerves a little bit? Yeah, but this is what this guy has to do to make money. All right, this is he, this is his profession. All right, he doesn't, he can't go sell meat door to door like you used to and Brian, he doesn't have a, you know, a whole podcasting network like you do, you do. He wants to do this as a profession and he's trying to get followers and become, you know, and pretty soon maybe you won't have to do this, but this is what he has to do right now.

No, no, no, he chooses to do is beg and lie. Lie with how's he lying? Where's his? Tell me how he lies. Well, he definitely lies about his numbers. Well, how, where? Because you can see you can see where there's no way he goes to rumble and within a couple days, he is 30,000 viewers.

There's just it's not possible. All right. So he rumble starts you out with viewers or something. Okay. So I'm a dumb guy. All right. So let me ask you a question, Brian, because you've been in a business and you know stuff. When you have a place like Rumble that has stock

holders and it's traded and they have to give real numbers. Do you think like, don't you think that that's an SEC violation? If you just start stacking people with views and stuff like that, are they, are they, is rumble allowed to go and give you views that you're not really getting? No, I, I would believe that, I don't know that much about rumble, but I would think that's not allowed. But there are, there, you can buy viewers. Okay. You can, yes, true. You can buy viewers. You don't break it back on. Geno and piano. Well, first of all, John, just think about this, that whether he buys viewers or they were

given to him donated whatever the fuck, I don't know. But what I know is that some of his videos on rumble within the first couple hours get tens of thousands of views and two comments. That is suspect. All right. Well, that's me. I'm the one over there commenting on rumble. I'll try to pick up the pace next time. Doug, if that'll make you feel better. No, but if there's 10,000 people watching it, wouldn't there be just more than you out there in the void?

All right. So when you're when people are when I'm over there watching it on rumble, it's just or no, John. Let me explain. All right, don't give me that fucking Congress shit. When I'm over there watching it, it's there's 300 to 400 to 500 people watching it live. And there's more than two. If you do your homework, I'm not saying that you're not, but you don't. If you were over there doing your homework, you would see that there are more than two people chatting and that it is live.

Now, I don't know what the replays do. And second of all, you know how I feel. I'm a podcaster, I like podcasting. I want to be able to listen to it when I want to listen to it and view it when I want to view it. I can't sit there all morning and watch his show. I don't watch your show, but I listen to it when I want to listen to it and view it when I want to view it. I can't sit there all morning and watch his show. I don't watch your show, but I listen to your show. So I like things as a podcast.

That's why I pay $10 a month to his Patreon. So it comes to me as an RSS fee. What did you listen to growing up, John? Well, I started out with John DeBella and, uh, okay, and then Zookieper, right, and then Howard Stern moved over. So then I listened to him, then Opian Aethany, then, uh, that, that, that, then it had big fights with Don and Mike. So I've been into this whole crazy radio thing, because I'm right, right outside of Philadelphia. You know, my life, you're steeped in it.

You're steeped in it. Yeah. So then how do you listen to a guy who's such a palimitation? And so desperately wants to be Anthony. Okay. I would tell you that he is in the top 10% of all people that do this kind of podcasting. Now, I'm not saying that he's amazing. I'm just saying that the 90%

behind him is complete shit. And I'm not even saying. So when you see something that's halfway decent, you listen to it. So you think this guys are the top 10% of podcasters. He's as good as Doug. So fucking what? I'm like, that dog just, he's got the same sense of humor as dog the same sense of humor as me. How are you so much better than he is? Doug Let me count the ways one I don't fucking lie to I much Okay Which is one so so what I would ask you to do,

because I do not want to go back through all these clips, I am done listening to that voice. Whatever. I would ask you to go back and listen to all the examples that were played leading up to you coming on. I apologize that you weren't here to hear it. Is this on Patreon? Because I don't have your Patreon anymore, I can fucking fire you.

This is a WATP. Oh, oh, look, I made it without this is a W a T P. Oh, oh, look, I made it without being on a cringe of the week. Look at me. It's still early. So you know what? It's funny. You say that I'll let you hang around here. It's we're wrapping up stilto and we're moving on.

So the week, cringes of the week. And what I believe to be a W a T P first, the cringe of the week is from the show. We just reviewed Steel tole Morning Show. We just got done listening to them discuss how close they are with Geno Biscante, right? Did I'm sure you're well aware of that, John? Yes. I watched him on Friday with Geno. It was an amazing show, in my. Okay. So, this is a clip of Aaron talking about how close him and Gino are. Gino Bisconte is a comedian.

Comedian. It's not hard to rattle the guy's cage. We did it for God's sake. He is fragile. We got to Gino. He's very fragile. He's, you know, who he falls in line with, Tony Michaels and Chad Zumak.

He's very much one of these paint by numbers, guys, who when they're rattled or when they're bothered, you'll know it because they'll say they're not bothered. Or they're not rattled. And he has this weird thing where, it's one of these guys who gets in these beefs, gets in these little spats. And then he always makes up that, oh, he didn't start it.

It's always the other person who started it. He always, Gino apparently played at Kevin and Bob Levy's club, Reverend Bob Levy from the Howard Stern Show. He recently, they recently played at their club and apparently bombed. He had a terrible set because Gino's kind of a shock, jockey comedian. They said all he wanted to do was tell Anne Frank and Holocaust jokes. He says the N word on stage because he thinks it's edgy. It's it's really free speech, bro.

And then goes, yeah, free speech. So he really, really sucks. And his response to Kevin Brennan and Bob Levy, well, first of all, Kevin Brennan and Bob Levy weren't going to say anything about Gino, but then Geno went on his show and started attacking Kevin and Bob's club that they played out over the weekend. The crowd was tight. Bob didn't set them up right. This is what's wrong with the club, the crowd sucked. Now, first of all, I've done comedy long enough to tell you that you can spot a hack from a mile away. If you see a guy blaming the crowd when he bombs, the greats can kill in front of almost anybody,

but they just didn't get the jokes. Aaron. Right. They didn't understand. Well, you see the problem is when it comes to Geno Biscante, when he bombs, he always says, well, the compound media crowds that they play for love it, that's because they're laughing at you as much as they are laughing with you. Geno blames the crowd whenever he goes outside of the compound crowds because most people go, oh, this guy fucking sucks. Not so good. I think it was Kevin Brennan who said, well, then Geno must blame every crowd that he performs

in front of. But now they went on Gino and his band of middlers, went up and went on Gino show on compound and smashed the shit out of Bob's club and Kevin's club. Yeah, he's, you're right. He's not a bad guy and he doesn't use relationships to further anything. John. That's, I mean, who doesn't do that? Okay. Who doesn't, who doesn't, I could say, I could say, you know what, your show, hang on. I know, no, no, I'm showing W ATP just so you could get listeners, which were tremendously for you. And I want it like an idiot defending your show against that. And that is irrelevant.

Me sending my show to Carl for him to shit on me is not the same as Brian is a good example. We had Brian on whose right? And it went horribly because we handled it poorly. And what I didn't do is go on whose right and bad mouth Brian. When I sent, I sent Brian an email and said, thanks for coming on. And you're invited back anytime. He didn't respond to me. I didn't. It was my fault. We handled him poorly. Who hasn't done

this? I just told you I didn't. I know. I've done it too. I was a fan of WAT back when he was Carl was with Kevin. And when he did your show and a couple of other friends of my show, I attacked Carl and then you guys all made up with him. And I was there was no making up. It I didn't take it personally when he's shit on my show. That's what it that's what he does. I took it personally. I was your friend of yours. I took it personally. I attacked them. So what you're saying right now is that one time he didn't like Gina Bisconte and now all of a sudden they become friends and now Gina Bisconte. No, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You forgot the part where he paid him to be friends. Yes, but he has to be friends. Okay. So then I guess I paid you to be your friend too. Well, I didn't pay you $10,000 to come play golf with me. No, but I gave you money when your house floated away. So can I pay you to be my friend? If I didn't pay you

money to be my friend, would you be my friend right now? I'd say no. No, of course not. So it's done all the time. God, you look so bad. You just, you already admitted your two feelings that you find his show annoying, but then you double down on defending his heiniest actions. I said that I'm not crazy about the begging, but what's the difference between the begging and commercials? That's what I said.

I didn't say I can't show it in the morning. Because then you's what I said. I didn't take a long time because then you're selling a product like he's just the begging is he's consistently selling himself. Okay. So whether he's selling himself or selling boner pills or mattresses or whatever fucking other things he podcast or sell nowadays coffee. It's not coffee. Yeah. Coffee. Everybody's got a fucking coffee. April's magic being Doug's big giant black shit. Whatever the fuck's not coffee. Yeah, coffee. Everybody's got a fucking coffee. April's magic being Doug's big giant black shit. Whatever the fuck's out there. Jody's half shot off face. All that fucking coffee shit to make money. You guys all do the same thing, but you're pissed off at him because he shakes a can and does the thing at the end. No, he reminds you that

he's no, it's the way he frames it. He doesn't say if you would like to hear it. It's he feels like they are obligated. It is their obligation. Yeah, you know what? I agree with him and I'll tell you why. His cheek, fucking audience, if they get off their ass and give them money in the first fucking hour, we wouldn't have to hear about any of this for the rest of the show. No, you're doing it. Just go on. Do your show. Be done. Your co-people, if people like you, if people like you, if people like you, they will, they will support you.

You don't have to just keep fucking over and over and over. He makes his goal almost every show. No, he doesn't. He does. He does about $600 a day. All right. So I don't even know. I can't remember the math on what he does, what he does.

He makes a show. I don't, there's not too many days that he does not make his, his goal. It's because he gets bailed out at the end, though, like a Chandler comes in or one of these whales. Does he care? Would you care? Or it's an anonymous PayPal donation that always gets him just over the edge. So you think he's paying himself? No, I don't think that it was ever there.

I don't think that you have to make an anonymous PayPal donations don't come in over the screen, right? Hey, I never thought about that, but if that's the case, he's only hurting himself. Is that another FEC violation? No, I don't know. I don't think so. I just think it's a, I think what it called, it's a cope. He's coping. I think it's a big gun. I'm curious. Do you think April belongs behind a mic? I, behind a stove. Both. I don't find, I don't find her.

Again, I don't, I think she does a halfway decent job. I think she's better than he is. I podcast with a stuttering guy that can't seem to get his quip at the work, right? So she's a dream. Again, yeah. So John, I apologize to you because you missed the conversation. We established that April was better at broadcasting than air. That's where that question was coming from. Yeah, I don't think she does a bad job at all as a second mic.

All right. So can we move on? Sure. Show. What am I doing? All right. I wasn't talking to you. I've got one more cringe of the week. And then I and it's just an excuse for me to play as many of these jingles and stingers as possible because I don't get a chance to do it on my show. Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. All right, this is yet another steel toe clip.

And then he refers to himself as Daddy, which is disgusting. Talking about jailbiscontent. There's no bigger sign that a guy's lacking confidence or was bullied a lot as a kid that he does shit like that. And then he'll say, well, I don't start it. Daddy finishes it. Oh, gross. That's so gross.

It's really gross. I mean, it's one of those things where that really insecure people say. Yeah. John, you, I'll ask you first. Do you agree with that statement that that is something that really insecure people say is daddy said this or daddy did that?

I don't think it's someone insecure. I'll tell you what though, the fact that when you get old like me, like Gino, like you, when you say daddy says something, it does make people go, oh my God. Like when we were fighting the other day, I said about the show being loose and I said daddy likes it tight and the whole fucking

audience freaked out. Well, I've got an example of somebody else using it. Guys, I've got great news. You got 10 minutes today. You got 10 minutes. Daddy gave you 10 minutes. I didn't do you that one. Daddy gave you 10 minutes. I did do that one. Daddy gave you 10 minutes.

I think it's it. Yeah, I disagree with Aaron. I think it's just like a joking thing to say. And like, yeah, look, if like I have my wife is 29. I'm 55. So if I say in mixed company, I refer to myself as daddy, it's going to make mother fuckers cringe. Sure is.

You know, for sure. But I don't see it as a sign of insecurity. I disagree with Aaron on that one. And it is interesting that April's agreeing with everything he says about one of her four favorite performers on earth. Right. You miss that too, John. April's four favorite performers are Stilto, herself, Gino and Kiana.

Oh, look at that. I can't. Right. Why can I ask you who your favorite four performers are? deal toe herself, Gino and Kiana. Look at that. It's convenient, right? I can, can I ask you who your favorite four performers are? I don't know if it, well, Doug for one. Oh, okay. You know, I don't know. I would, it would take me a long time. And I don't know that I'm friends with any of them.

Certainly not people I just met that same day. Yeah, it wouldn't coincidentally be the last three people that were in a picture with me. Yeah. that same day. Yeah, it wouldn't coincidentally be the last three people that were in a picture with me. Hey, you know what? I think next year I'm going to go up for the 10th anniversary, get in a picture so I can be her fifth most best person. I think you got a good chance after this apologist who are you're doing for Steel Toe. I listen, maybe he'll promote you. One thing you'll be a VIP member. You know what? I am going to. VIP member. One. You know what? I am going to do that. I am going, you know what?

Now because of all this, I'm going to pull harder and cash, $250 harder and cash out of my wallet. Dump it down on steel toe so I can be a VIP member. Here's what I don't get. What? Why the hate? Why not just ignore them? This dog, to be honest with you, this right here, what you're

doing right now, is the most amazing propaganda for him, advertisement for him. So he's probably going to love this. He'll go back and pick it up and pick it apart. So if they're talking about you, it's always good, right right all right. I don't know I've had a few things said about me that weren't that great and I rather people didn't All right, John. We're gonna move on. Thank you very much for stopping in I see you Brian. Yeah, you too. Is that boomer bunker boomer bunker All right, take care, John He's got a stuttering co-host huh

John. He's got a stuttering co-host, huh? All right, you want to get into some stuttering The key, yeah! Stuttering John, the man who left the double verse and then returned less than 12 hours later. He announced his exit and then was on a show. I believe it was hypocrisy, police, fashion, bashing Carl, no less than 12 hours later, really, really shitting on him. Stuttering John is the gift that keeps giving. Some of this is gonna be dated because we're doing it. This is not live, obviously, everyone. So some of this is a little dated

and I decided to go through the hypocrisy police episode, the skull versus the troll, where Carl and Stuttering John, this is the second one. This is the second episode where Stuttering John and Carl went head to head and argued a couple points and bonded at times. And at the end of the episode, spoiler alert, looks like when Carl and Stuttering John are in, where are they? Where are they living in Cape Coral?

Yeah. They're going to grab a beer, possibly as early as today. Oh, boy. Mm-hmm. Now, does this ruin the Stuttering John thing? Like, because when they go at each other, you know, as we're going to see some of these clips, when they go at each other now you know, as we're gonna see some of these clips, when they go at each other now, it seems like there isn't that,

that vitriol that they used to have for each other. You know, Carl doesn't go as hard at him, stuttering John is like treats like a joke kind of, like I don't know, maybe the meeting wasn't a good thing. No, I would definitely say that it wasn't a good thing for all the reasons you just said. So Carl didn't follow his own rule, observe and report. That's what you're supposed to do. Not observe and then go drink beers with them and hang out and then come back and talk about it.

Yeah. So we're going to see where this takes the double verse then because Stuttering John is very like I'm assuming he's not going back to teaching If for no other reason then he totally fucked himself He I saw something where he was Telling people that the trolls reported him and it was gonna be a problem to go back to teaching and all this other shit But it's like look this is one of those situations where Stuttering John was so wasted and so like saying such outlandish shit that you're like, should he be, I mean, I would never report him. But like if he were my kid's teacher, I would at least get my kid transferred out of that classroom at the very least, because I'm like, I don't want this guy around my kids.

I mean, if not for no other reason than his fingernails alone, his hygiene is questionable. Questionable at best. Yeah. So like I said, this is skull versus the troll. This would be the second part. The first part was a lot of John shouting over Carl and not letting Carl get points out. This is kind of similar except by the end

of this, I felt like there is a chance that John is evolving, that John has seen the error of his like hardcore democratic. It's the Dems vs. the Republic, INSOS vs. them mentality Canceling everybody that kind of shit because I think for once There are moments where John becomes self-aware and is like, oh, I did that too and what I'm railing for Is something that could come back to bite me in the ass perhaps so maybe I should soften my stance, you know so in clip one, John named drops a major celeb. He's now friends with. But can we get into this because you started off with some name dropping with Vinnie Paulino. Very cool. Is that name dropping?

Nobody knows who Vinnie Paulino is. Oh, he's a pretty big deal. That's not why. That's name, I mean, no offense, but that's the end dropping. No, no offense of any Paulino. Now, my question is, because I was aware of some of the things that were going to happen in this episode prior, because Vinnie said that, you know, like I knew that Vinnie met, uh, Stuttering John on Cardiff show, I i believe it was and they became fast friends and then uh... as we'll find out vinyne has been in touch with stuttering john so what does this mean for carl

in terms of like his friendship with vinypolino can now that viny's feeding information and photos and all kinds of but basically docks in carl to stuttering john what does this mean for their friendship what does this mean for the creep off? The only thing I know, I haven't watched this video. The only thing that I know is somebody put a screenshot up. I think it was in the WATP subreddit of Carl's face

when he realized Vinny double crossed him or whatever. And I'm assuming that's what this is in reference to. I didn't know Vinny sent over a bunch of information or anything. Yeah, Vinny sent some some information over that was helpful to Stuttering John and Stuttering John definitely wanted to or Carl Carl's expression was like, oh, fuck, what like I think his his feeling was like, well, what else did he send them? What else did he tell them? And and did Vinnie just do that Just, so we would talk about it, is that?

I actually, I know. I think Vinnie did it on prompt, and he didn't even know about this, I don't think. No, I just met us as in fans of the show. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, else is started? Well, if Stuttering John did any homework, he would have been able to find certain things. And you know, something like this, the name dropping. In my clip number two, we definitely see, or at least assume that John is a, not rich,

and b, is willing to sell out for minimal cash. Tell you something. Yeah. You're a good buddy. Parkie. Yeah. He, you know, I provided them with a lot of his, a lot of his racist nonsense. Okay.

And they paid me an extra 300. That's it. He freezes and never actually finishes the thought. But my feeling was, wait a second. So these are things that you wouldn't have said unless you were paid money. Now, I know in movies, it's like there's a bump for like, say in actresses like, hey, we need you to show your boobs in this scene. There's a nudity bump. You get a little bit of extra money. So is that the way TV operates as well? Like, if we give you $300, you can say out loud all the shit that, now this is, I'm sorry,

this is from a vice special that I just watched last night it's called the dark side of the 2000's I sold on YouTube and it's all about like the radio war stern versus the Bella versus Mark and Brian versus open and Anthony and stirring John was a talking head on it and at one point towards the very end he starts talking about Anthony's racism, which if anybody follows Anthony on Twitter, you know what Anthony says. So like, it's not like John had this like inside traveling anything. No, not at all. And then I said, you know, why would they, I thought why would they need John to expose this on camera? And it's the reason is very simple because he's a fucking idiot

and they knew that for a minimal cash he would do it. And he has to get in at the very end. I didn't pull, I couldn't pull the clip because I don't know how to rip fucking video from YouTube because I'm ignorant. But at the very end of the clip he's talking about Anthony and being racist and all this stuff. And he's like, I need me follow my trans kid. And then the clip ends. But like he had to get it in there that he made for his trans kid. And that's that actually made me laugh. That was the

funniest thing that John said the entire time. I don't I don't get stuttering John like jumping on Anthony for this shit. Like when there's plenty of examples of John saying things that like today are not acceptable. But throughout, he copes like Stilto throughout this entire episode, he copes. He's like, well, that was then this is now, but if you were ever to sit there and listen to his political show, all that matters is what you used to say or what you said, the jokes you made, all that shit, you know, not if it's not if it pertains to you. Then it's then you get a pass. Yes. Well, I think I think more and more people are like, okay, so John, you were on TV for this long, you were

on Stern for this long, and you said plenty of shit, and you did plenty of shit that, like by today's standards, would be deemed unacceptable. So, what do you say about that? And he has no answer. So as we'll see many times throughout this video, he'll talk over Carl. He'll interject with super chats, or he doesn't remember or he forgets. There's a clip later on where I say, there's a chatter who calls him out for not remembering or saying that he was joking. If you know John, he

remembers every fucking compliment anyone ever gave him since the second grade. But like his screen names from Reddit from a couple months ago, his burner accounts, those he can't recall jokes. He made a couple of years ago, those he can't recall, you know, yeah, I don't remember. It would be best like to one, you shouldn't position yourself to be holier than that, right? No. You should head. Then no one expects anything from you. Right. But when his entire left leaning stance was that everybody else is racist and everybody else is this or that. Knowing what his history is, like, it's not that hard to dig up him saying stupid shit, trying to get a laugh. And my opinion is that's what he should say. Instead of saying, I don't

remember saying that. He should say, yeah, I thought it was funny. And just move on. My views have changed. I thought it was funny. I don't know, go fuck yourself. Quit digging up old shit. Yeah, but the going back and trying to justify and defend and like it was the show, that's the way the show is. It's like Stern, you know, Stern being like, I was out of my mind at that time.

It's like that still doesn't fucking excuse using the end word. I don't care how out of your mind you were. If everyone else has to answer for it, why doesn't Stern have to answer for it? You know, and I don't think anybody should have to answer for that kind of shit from the past anyway, because we all know, like I said it not too long ago on some other podcast, but I'm like, you know, how I know those times were better because I live through those times and I've lived through these times. And these times as far as like censorship

and PC stuff, fucking suck, you know? So it's like, you can't sit there and be like, it's better today when you're fucking 20 years old and have no context for the way things used to be. Right. There were people didn't freak out over every little joke. And I'm not saying like, run around, use the N word freely or whatever. I'm just saying like, let's all knock it so often that it should And every little fucking thing, you know? And that's what Stuttering John was kind of like, putting forth is like being offended at every little thing when he was a guy that was making offensive content non-stop.

And I'm not uncovering anything new, but I don't think that there is an ounce of John that has ever been offended by anything that he's claimed to be offended by. He needed a stance and he was trying to proposition himself as a leader of the left, so to speak. And he needed a platform to stand on. And it was the easiest one to jump on at that point because everyone's agreeing with you. Like, you know, he has that echo chamber where he says, like this about Trump and then,

he still talks about Trump, it's amazing. It's like the guy has not been president in how long, he's not gonna be president again, we all know it. So like just who gives a fuck anymore? It's boring, it's boring man. But that's his, I guess that's how he thought he was gonna make a couple bucks because he was well positioned.

He has the trans kid. And I think another one of his kids is gay so he can really jump on the woke movement and act like, you know, none of this shit he said in the past ever happened to the point where he's still to this day, like, you know, what he went out with Alisa Jordani's telling her that she gained weight

and all this other shit. And it's like, dude, what the fuck? You don't, you don't say that to anyone. But like, if you think that somebody isn't going to judge you as a massageist for like after a woman won't give you a kiss, you're like, well, you're getting kind of fat. It's like, okay, so I just gained a little bit of respect for John. Yeah Yeah, he wanted a pack up. He was very upset that he didn't get a kiss from a Lisa Jordana because he knew her and they were friends I there are women. I've known for decades and when I see them I'm like, hey, maybe a hug Kissing though. I don't know. That's the way we do it in the pub. That's what he says My clip three is John cannot figure out why Carl is successful. You said you don't know why I'm successful at podcasting.

Now I know why he's successful. Oh, because you said you didn't understand. So do you know why? Why is that? I understand because you're obsessed with me. Oh, okay, weird. Because I'm the famous one. Okay. I mean, you don't have any real fame. I mean all you have is this Dabbleverse fame. That's about it. Yeah Now there's a couple things in there. John still considers himself famous, which is insane Famous to me means that like if I tell if I say to my parents who are in their 70s like hey, did you hear what stuttering John said? They'd be like who the fuck is stuttering John if I said hey my parents who are in their 70s, like, hey, did you hear what Stuttering John said? They'd be like, who the fuck is Stuttering John? If I said, hey, you know Tom Hanks?

Yes, they know Tom Hanks. And I know there's two paring degrees of fame, but I would not call Stuttering John famous anymore. He's not been famous in some time. But like guys like Stuttering John, like he reminds me, he, that really reminded me of a discussion I had with Kevin Brennan once. I went down to see Chip, Chip Chipperson down in Philadelphia like Stuttering John, he reminds me, that really reminded me of a discussion I had with Kevin Brennan once. I went down the C-chip, chip chippers in down in Philadelphia and a bunch of compound people there when Kevin was still a compound.

And I guess he must have looked me up and he saw how many Twitter followers I had and he's like looking at me like I'm a different species because he hadn't heard of me before. He didn't, like wasn't familiar with Tellum Steve Dave or comic bookman or any of that shit. And, like, there's a certain type of person and KB is the same way in as much as,

like, they're consumed with how much money you're making, how popular you are. And I feel like, why am I not doing that? Why am I not making that much? Like, it's a strange mindset, because I don't look at look at other people like I don't look at fucking Joe Rogan or any number of podcasts, Carl, you anybody, I'm like, why am I not doing the same thing that Doug is doing where that Carl is doing or that Joe Rogan is doing it's like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, like it's not, I don't see it as a. Like, people naturally gravitate towards shows and then they, you know, like they hear, you know, they hear me on, on who's right. And then they're like, oh, I never even heard it tell them Steve Dave. Let me, let me check it out.

Like that's how you sort of grow your audience little by little. And, and it's not the truth. I'd never go back to that, that, that email you said that you sent. Thank you for coming. I, I don't even call ever getting that. And I would definitely come back on. I would definitely come back on. I'm saying that to the record. So going back to your earlier point, one of the the things in my professional life that I have found helped me out and I've said this multiple times is never count somebody else's money. You just

worry about your own deals, you worry about your own employment, your own, the deal you make with your employer when you get a job. Don't worry about what anybody else is making. Don't worry about anybody else's. Follow account. None of that bullshit. Just focus on your shit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see how it really matters. You know, it's like, obviously, like any number of us would be like, man, it would be sweet to have Rogan's numbers. Of course it would be. But it's like, that's never going to happen. Not in this lifetime.

So like why even think about it? Why worry about it? But I feel like that's Aaron's mindset. Aaron thinks that he could get those numbers up to a point where like he's a, a Rogan type. It's just, I don't know. Is he arrogant or is he delusional? I can't tell.

It's just, I think it's big, big broadcasting is holding Aaron down. That's what it is. That could be it. You're right. I hadn't considered that possibility. Let's see. Number four is another example of stuttering John dismissing stuff. When stuttering John doesn't have an answer, I like to like I watch this twice. I watched it when they first when it first came out. And then I had to rewatch it to pull the clips and

stuff. And the second time I really watch John's face a lot. You can tell a lot by his eyes. Like watch starring John's eyes in any number of these. Jesse Blink with things five bucks. Why does John's the natural like that you learn how you just have a price tag on the buy. I don't know. I don't think it's a price tag. Is that price tag?

I don't know. If I bought it at the store. No, that was a souvenir shop. Now, if it is a price tag, or let's say, if it isn't a price tag, wouldn't you say it's not a price tag? Not, is that a price tag? And how long has it been since he was on the tonight show? I can't remember when, I mean, it's been a good eight years at least.

He either hasn't used the mug once, which we know isn't true because we've seen him before. Or he's never washed it. Or he bought it recently. That is saying that it's one that let us use. Now I know this is like this is minutia, this is tiny stupid shit. But it's saying that it's a saying that it's one that let us used now. I know this is like this is minutia This is tiny stupid shit, but it's it's important to point out like john's first of all john can says he went to NYU Right, and he and I think later on he brags about it like you know Because Carl says something about him not using his NYU education if he went to NYU for film and TV production Why does he look so shitty? why does he look so shitty? Why does he look so terrible in every single fucking stream that he does?

Maybe this is him looking, maybe this is him with makeup on. Maybe he looks worse without the NYU stuff on him. Wow, that would be something. I had again, I hadn't considered that as a possibility. Oh, I'm sure if what you said earlier holds true and Carl and John get together and have a beer, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Uh, that I would, yeah, that I would like to could, could Carl jump the shark by agreeing to go out for a beer with stuttering, John. Yeah. Yeah, I think he would. Yeah. I have to text him after this and tell him whatever he does. Don't fucking accept that invitation. They're going to get too chummy. Nobody needs a chummy Carl and Stuttering John. Yeah, I think as a WATP listener, in Stuttering John. I think as a WATP listener, maybe that's fine. They do their shows together, but from now on, just take Stuttering John off of WATP. Like it's-

Don't do that segment. Yeah. Yeah, there's a story arc and we're at the bottom of it. I got to hand it to Carl, though. He't like really gone soft or pulled punches on John, like he asked some some hard questions. John just doesn't answer him. That's the problem. Let's see. So my next clip, John believes his writing contributed to his fame. What, what numbers is this? This would be clip five. All right. But you write for Carla? I write for four different podcasts that I host. Yeah, okay, podcast.

Okay. Yes, this is a barometer of fame. John, talking about the past is not you, any favors? I don't know how you're not figuring this out. Oh, really? I just did the CBS roast. Now, there's a couple of things in there

that like I was shocked that Carl did not bite on. I just did the CBS roast. Because that's not something that I've heard before from Stuttering John. I don't know what the CBS roast is. I don't know when it was. It seems recent. Again, this is in John's head, talking about what he did 20 years ago as a barometer of fame,

as he said. Yeah. And then he's like, Oh, you got podcast fame. John, what John doesn't understand is like, when you say Stuttering John, nobody thinks about him from the tonight show. Nobody. It's always Howard Stern, which means that people are thinking him from over 20 years ago. Yeah, but again, as John has recognized, the times are different now.

Having podcast fame kind of means something, right? So Carl is making his living podcasting. That's because Carl has a fuck ton of listeners. Carl can go anywhere in the country and sell out anything, probably even sell out a biker bar if he wanted to. Oh, W-A-T-P, it's Tony's. I would probably go to that. That would be interesting. Me, you and what was the name John yeah John good front row seats Let's see this this my clip six is a more Carl based, but this is an example of one of the many times that John cuts Carl off to read superchats and it's Carl's expression here that that made me laugh

We just point this out because remember when there's a video of you from people who are John because of Carl. Yeah, of course. I'm not about to stop. Are you fucking kidding me? And then so many times throughout the show, um, Carl will ask him to stop cutting him off and John will counter with like, but you told me to read super chats. How am I supposed to get through the super chats

if I can't read them? Many, many times he does this and it's humorous every time. I, again, I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he's fucking with Carl or he's just that fucking bad at it, but it's. I think it's just that he's that bad at it, right? So trying to do a live show and keep up with the superchats is very hard. You almost just have to have a a super chat oriented show where it's you read

one, you respond to it, you read one respond to it, right? Or be really good at transitioning and finishing your thought and then putting the super chat up and referencing it and then moving on but to try to do both things simultaneously where you're answering somebody's question and then the person that asked it interrupts you to read a super chat is probably not the right recipe Clips 7 we kind of we kind of covered already. This is the one where I said, uh, this is where John jokes and can't remember selectively. Every time John gets exposed on all I was a joke, no, I just can't remember it. No, I can't even remember it. You were threatening a mob, you know, someone you did it to me too.

Yeah, and I was kidding You know I was This is when he was they talk about it a little bit where John Threatens a mob hit on somebody and then four hours later said he was just kidding and that he had been hanging around with John Gotty junior too much and I guess John Gotti, Jr. or John Gotti's grandson wrote in or contacted, to contact him was a little, or tweeted something and said that

he was like, look, Sturring John does not know my uncle that well, that he should be dropping his name, they met twice, something like that. And then, you know, Starring John goes on, he's like, but I hung out with him, right? Did I hang out with him? It's like, yeah, but you shouldn't be, I mean,

to drop a fucking mob guy's name is probably not a great idea in John. My uncle was at a Has-Bend convention and took a picture with him. That's about as far as it went. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, starring John saw him approach him on the street and was like, oh, John, can I get a picture?

Clip 8. I only want to play for one reason. And you'll, oh, he finished. I figure everybody wants to get you off there with the clip. No, that's okay. Everybody wants to see Carl and the cowgirl outfit again. So set you this, huh? Okay, everybody. Okay, everybody.

So, yeah. So, okay. What? Okay. Now, if Carl is supposed to be Hetero, why is he dressed up in a cowgirl body? So if Carl is Hetero, because John is convinced that Carl is gay, his evidence is that Carl has wood paneling, and Carl doesn't have any children. So far, he called him a feminine for the first time on MLC, when they appeared to go under

the first time. I don't understand why John having the trans kid and possibly the gay kid is constantly using gay as a pejorative. Yeah. I was going to say that and I was going to preface it by saying I've heard multiple people say the same thing. But to sit there and say that you're not allowed to make fun of my trans kid or my kid that's gay, and then use that exact same thing as an insult, which apparently I just learn is a pejorative. Is that what you said? Yeah, I think it just shows how fucking dense he is. I think he's got web brain. I think he has web brain. I think he has, and we all laugh at him,

but I do believe he has a serious personality disorder. Like, nobody, I saw somebody that chats suggested a historic personality disorder, which he definitely has some of the hallmarks of it. I mean, the guy constantly needs attention. He's constantly a victim or making something up or some bullshit, you know, so it's entirely possible. And again, just wanted to make sure everybody saw Carl and that

cow bikini. Although, like he refers to him as a cow girl, which is weird because I don't know any cow girls he trusts like that. And he tries to steamroll through it even though Carl is like, you know, that's, um, that's, uh, shit, I just totally lost my train of thoughts. I'm crossing off my, I'm crossing off my notes here. So, am I correct that that was a consequence from the creep off? Yes, that's it. Yes, that's exactly the point. That was a consequence from the creep off and Carl tries to explain that with starting John just steamrolls them and calls him gay and you know, I mean that the world is especially pop culture is rife with examples of men who dressed as women for whatever reason and their turns out they're not gay turns out to be don't go, Mil tea is straight. I would counter and say the best example that I could come up with

of Carl that I think Carl is gay is him backing out of the Gary and Deanna consequence. So gay, that the only reason I said I would take the ride with him is because I'm convinced he'll give me road head on the way there. Oh, yeah. So you're just in it for what you can get out of it then. I get it. That's why I am. I'm taking a page out of Steel Toes book, you know, whatever relationship I can make work, that's what I'm going to do. Um, clip nine, John is caught in a lie. And again, this is another one of those situations where you have to watch his eyes like watch John's eyes during this clip Does every room in his Florida house furnace you have? He bought it three months before me. I have three beds at my house one for each bedroom job. You should try that

Yeah, I just I've only been here two weeks. Don't fuck Go ahead two weeks dumb fuck. Go ahead. Two weeks, Sean. You've been in your house in Florida for two weeks. You know that's not true. Why do you say shit like that? We know the exact date that you close on the house. Can't move me close.

Dummy. Yeah, but you've been there before you are there now. What? Why did you pick up his rescue dog shirt? Like that was going to shut him up. He keeps doing that because when he first had his hypocrisy police shirt, whenever somebody was hypocritical, he was lifting it up. He said that he had bought two.

People were like, let's see the second shirt on camera. He never showed it. Then he stopped wearing the hypocrisy police shirt all together and just wears different shirts. But if he feels somebody's being hypocritical, he still does this. It's a muscle memory. I know of an argument.

You just say, pick a rescue dog. Oh, okay. I mean, his eyes in that were so like, like he's, he's like, we get to see Aaron when he got busted by April lying about the story that he shared with his friend, but you can see John here. And like you see like his, he's like, what?

Huh? Like leaning forward. What? What friend? What's the worry? Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, another situation where, where John is obviously lying, Carl calls him out on it

and he won't just be like, all right, you know, I, uh, maybe I exaggerated. It has, because he doesn't want to say, I don't have the fucking money to buy beds or turn the lights on or whatever the fuck because if you, as you, I didn't pull any clips from it, but at the very end of this, this show, it's John's almost invisible. It's so dark in his house. I think he was relying on natural light. And so as it got a little bit darker, like you can It's so dark in his house. I think he was relying on natural light and so as it got a little bit darker Like you can't really see anything in the house. So I guess he has no lights or anything It's a the strange way to do business

and Don't you think it would be much more entertaining and interesting if he was just to be much more entertaining and interesting. If he was just to be 100% honest, like, look, I made some bad choices. I thought I was set up financially for the rest of my life. I played my cards wrong, and now I'm struggling to keep my lights on. Like just being real, it would take away a lot of the haters, as they say, or the trolls. Yeah, because then they wouldn't have anything to to come out of them with, but the guys like John are so ego driven that like it would be impossible for him to admit some sort of shortcoming or personal flaw or personal failure, you know, it's very, very difficult for guys like that to say like, yeah, I fucked up or I should have banked some of that tonight's show money, you know.

There's an ongoing thing too with Arty and John, like, you know, Arty, are John says that he's friends with Arty, John has said some like, stuff that I feel you can't take back, you know, like telling Arty to kill himself and all that other shit. Like if I was already, I would never speak to John again. And then there's a guy, Dan Falotto, who I think was Arty's producer when he was doing the Arty show. He wasn't with Arty and Anthony, he was just the Arty's podcast. And there's a situation in which Stuttering John comes on and I guess he made some jokes about his trans kids. And Dan Filotto was like, Hey, do you want me to kill that? So, yeah, everybody pretty much knows

this story. You want me to kill that segment. And John said, No, and then the next day was like, Hey, you can't play that. My family will be mad at me blah, blah, blah. And now Stuttering John is saying that Dan Filato is an enabler. So I'm like, you know, John, John, he's just Dan Falato of being enabler and then this. What numbers is this? That's a clip 10. Thank you, Les.

With the amount of work that all of these guys did to try to help Arty, and you're the only person who would show up to Arty's house with the case of beer. This guy who's supposed to be trying to get better and going to rehab. You were drinking beer in front of him. He was drinking too.

No, everyone was trying to get, oh, so you were enabling him that. If you were bringing beer over and he was drinking it, he's trying to get sober at this time. Oh, he wasn't getting my beer. I thought he was drinking Jack then, no? No? As if Carl would know.

That was one of the big reasons I pulled that clip was because I'm just like, like, he's definitely enabling. He first he says he wasn't drinking my beer, not the point job. The point is that if you have a person around you that you say is your friend and you consider them important in your life and they have a substance abuse issue. You do not do any substances in front of them that may like trigger them or make them want to fucking, you know, join you in the beer. But but him asking, he's like, you was drinking jack like again, Stuttering John's selective memory where he's like, I don't remember. He was drinking jack. Do you

remember Carl? Of course you would remember wouldn't you Like what the fuck it makes no sense and then my clip 11 is basically a continuation from clip 10 Instead of addressing John being in the enabler again. He cuts Carl off and Carl's expression is perfect gosh as their drugs around here and they're trying to really kind of keep drugs away from this guy but they can't help it He's an adult he's gonna do that, but if you know what Callie Quinn probably He hated a lot of did Tatling Jomal is a pro They tried multiple times John As a child who's been out calling for like

The looking off like mother fucker Yeah, I've recorded it with Carl enough to know. So, you know how you can read him, right? When he's ready to move on, is there anything else you want to talk about this episode? You know, it's that he faces very easy to read. And that face that he was making right there was, I'm out of this business. I've got to get out of this. This is not what I wanted.

I wanted to change my life. I want to get out of podcasting. I want to go back to marketing. I'm done with all of it. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. When I was marketing, I didn't have to deal with Stuttering John.

Clip 12 against Stuttering John pretends that he cannot remember something you're a little result because you know this episode exists somewhere i don't know what we track it out we track it out your family's not going to be to please with you my friend it was me i don't think i don't really care i'm not a telltale but the fact that you go on there and talk about everyone bashing your kids and how terrible that is and really you're the one who was doing it is insane to be so hypocritical. I like podcasts. Yep. I don't remember it at all. Yeah, well, you were pretty drunk. You were pretty drunk. Well, you're making

jokes about people missing certain private parts and things like that. So it must have been a long long time ago then. Yeah, long, long time ago back when you were in your like early 50s That was a pretty good line And and Stuttering John again Just justifying it by being like it must have been a long time ago. So it's okay for him to make fun of trans people And again like how long has your kid been trans? Didn't they transition rather recently, like within the past seven years, six years? And again, like I've said enough shit on my show.

That I mean, I've had people throw it back in my face and it's like, I thought it was funny. I'm not gonna apologize for anything that I said. I went for a joke and missed. Don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I think many people don't understand like when you sit there and talk for hours and hours and hours of your life, like you're gonna say

some shit you should in a set. You're gonna say some shit, you regret you said. You're gonna say some shit you thought was funny and then you're like, ah, I wasn't really funny. But you just move on. It's just the way it goes, you know. Also, I want to tell Carl the word is frazzled, not razzled. So next time, this is a stuttering John Coping, taking a page out of Steele Toe's book,

that would be clip 13. taking a page out of Steel Toes book that would be clip 13. Oh yeah, that was I stopped doing that. It is an appropriate anymore. What did you stop doing it two years ago? No, about 10 years, seven years ago. That's a lie. All right. That's another lie. Try it a long ago. It was a couple years ago.

Yeah, all right. I said it two years ago. I don't remember, but, but I had to stop. Sorry. Again, we're talking about the trans jokes. I should have been a preface to it with that. They're talking about the prejudice, the trans jokes. And John goes from 10 years to seven years, eventually begrudgingly admitting to two years, although he says he doesn't remember. Well, you have to understand that John was razzled. He was razzled. That's the key here. Yeah, so, so Stuttering John is like, that's the thing. It's he's a frustrating guy, you know?

You sit there like you can see it in Carl's face, but even as a viewer, it's like, would you answer the fucking cock Carl's face, but even as a viewer, it's like, would you answer the fucking cock sucking fucking question, motherfucker? Just answer it. Just say like, you know what? You're right. I was making those jokes that I shouldn't have made. Not I can't remember.

I forget. It was a long time ago. What? What are you talking about? Huh? I made those jokes. It was already show. Wait, what? It's like motherfucker. you remember all this shit. You remember all of it and you're pretending you don't. What story? What friend? It's the same. It's the exact same thing. I think they call

that gaslighting, right? Well, Stuttering John has a very broad definition of gaslighting. It turns out we saw in a different car. I'll pull the clip clip where like starting John like like the word sick of that he repeatedly uses it incorrectly. And it's like you hear somebody use it. Just look the word up. Be sure of the definition. Don't fucking go for it. But don't sit there and just repeatedly misuse the word even after people tell you you're using it incorrectly. He doesn't care. He doesn't give a shit. Sometimes he can be a real pejorative. Yeah, definitely. My clip 14 is for the people. there's this guy. Check this out. Tell me how. He orders. He. I'm gonna puke. If you've ever wanted to see Stuttering John gagging in almost vomit, that's for you.

What the fuck was going on there? They were talking about Mayo, how they have a mutual distaste from Mayo. And Stuttering John was trying to explain a guy who at the bar that he goes to, who would put Mayo all over his sandwich or something. And was telling Carl how gross it was and nearly throwing up in the meantime. This I thought was interesting because this is this clip 16 oh wait, I'm sorry clip 15 Where John addresses trolls ruining his gigs But not they said that he goes John There's 5,000 people in this dabble whatever anonymous. Yeah, and he said I you're unbookable whatever anonymous. Yeah. And he said, you're unbookable. He goes, I don't even think that we can try and book you on TV gigs because they're going to call that network and fucking

do this. And they should not do that. Now, is there any way Carl really believes that's the reason that his gigs were getting canceled? Because trolls were calling threatening violence to women, threatening bad, yell, previews, and somebody's like, you're unbookable because people don't like you. Now, don't they, don't they book like highly controversial, like that? What was that guy's name? Milo's, what was that fucking thing? I know you're talking about.

Yeah, like they book that guy at colleges, they book Alex Stein places, they book some pretty divisive personalities. But Stuttering John, the whole double versus colonnade and threatening violence towards what, why would they do it? Why would a club owner believe it? And why would they set the precedent of like, oh, somebody's threatening some stuff? Well, we can't have that person. Like if it was fucking Shepeller, Louis CK at that venue. I would imagine in the heat of the moment in that discussion, just based off the clip that I saw,

Carl had a fork in the road and he had to either question John's lie or he thought about when they were gonna do that live event at Vinnie's place. I don't remember the name of it on top of my head, but you know, they had people calling the fire marshal or whatever the fuck it was. And, you know, Carl is very anti-doxing, anti-real life shit. Fucking with people, yeah. And I think he just had to pick which road to go down and he went down the road of, yeah, I don't agree with that type of

shit. I would imagine that's what it was. Yeah, I think also probably what happened was somebody got a call, like a, you know, this, somebody got a call at the comedy place. They were like, hey, they're threatened of violence towards women and the owner or the, the, the manager is like, well, how many tickets is this guy sold three? Fuck it then.

I can't sell. You know, that's the way I see it going. I don't see Stuttering John like packing a house. And that, you know, unless it's a barbecue restaurant, I think that was his big thing. There's a barbecue restaurant. My clip 16 is something that is so typical of your lefty mentality that it's actually amusing that Stuttering John did this. So just get away from my house or I'm going to call the cops to have these because I thought they were all hanging out in front of my house.

Like, what would you do? So that was the guy in Alisa, Jordan. I got to, I got to set these clips up better. I apologize. That was Alisa, Jordan and her friend coming to Stuttering John's house and he said he was going to call the cops. And this is very typical of lefties who get into situations where they need the police, but at the same time, wanted to fund them. So I don't get like why Stuttering John is going to be calling the police on anyone. Was John part of that defund the police bullshit? Well, I assume that since he's on the left and he agrees with every single thing that progresses and I left us have to say that he would be defunding the police as well.

That's just me making a leap. Yeah, but it's very typical. Like he calls a cops on everybody. He called the cops because somebody tweeted. I think it was Chad. Chad said it sweet and he called the cops. you know, he called the cop. He said, although, you know, it was later probably disproven that he called the cops in Rochester to talk about, you know, doing the exact thing that he's saying people are doing to him, calling his venues and getting him canceled. I think it's great when Chad does shit like that. You know, I think he'll say, I just got my tickets to AC as an Atlantic city

as an example or something like that. Or I just got this gun or whatever. Yeah. And I love it. I gotta say, like, yeah, it's not popular opinion, but I enjoy Chadwick. Like I like him. I like that. I like that.

I mean, I don't think that like the sniping of MLC is like that. Again, that got old. But like his kumi a cook show. I find him using because it's all people I know. So I think it's funny that he's making fun of him. It's shit. You know, but yeah, I enjoy Chad.

Yeah, I've, there was a like three appearances in a row that I was, I was pro Chad on WATP and I was the only one. Yeah, at least on that episode anyway. Yeah, I thought about pull it, take it a page out of Chad's playbook and pretending that I like steel toe when we first got up. I was going to do the same thing. I had even kind of formulated how I was going to start out the show, which is I watched three episodes of this and honestly, there wasn't a whole lot to clip from.

Yeah, he's so great. Well, it's a good thing I wasn't co-hosting with John because that might have happened. Clip 17, all I have is Carl gets real. I'm not sure what I mean by that. I guess, Sam. Thanks for talking about size. Are we going to Carl? when will you go after still, so why are you scared of Aaron S. Halty?

That show is not good and you know it, sir. Yeah, okay, answer that. It's actually this month is the answer and that's real. Yeah, that must be why I put, I pulled it. Carl gets real and that's real. Now, will people be disappointed that it's you and I versus Carl? Yeah. Though they shouldn't be because I think that we've said stuff that Carl would not have said. And I'm going to say that they're going to say that we took it easy on them. Yeah, I

don't know. I don't know what more people would want. I don't hate them because I don't like them enough or like I'm just not that invested. I think what they want is for us to go stand outside the emhole's residence, throw a brick through their fucking picture window and start screaming at them how much their show sucks. Would that make you guys happy? I thought we need to do road trip. Yeah. I'll meet you. I'll meet you in Kansas. This is a clip 18 is my feeling that John doesn't necessarily need to address everything. Excellent friends. Two bucks. Pocky says, hi, live a spot. Could you? I'm going to live. You know, these can be sun spots too. I was out in the sun, my whole fucking childhood.

Now, I just found my whole fucking childhood. Now, I was out in this on my whole childhood too, and not only that, I was a lifeguard for about five years. So, I don't know. I don't have any sunspots. I do have a liver spot on my hand though. It's maddening. When you get older, you see that kind of shit popping up.

It's all part of the gig, man. Yeah. Like that's, again, if he's going to address it, they, yeah, so okay, what do you want for me? Yeah, yeah, that's, he's like, there could be sunspots. Could be liver spots, but again, our sunspot, it's a spot on your fucking head, whether it comes from the sun, it's a spot on your fucking head, from the sun or it's a liver spot.

What fucking difference does it make? It's spot on your head. I get, I don't understand the nonstop defense and justification and cope. It's like somehow a spot on his head is his fault and it needs to be rectified. It's like, he would be like, just make a joke about it.

Remove on or don't read the super chat. Take the $2 loss or actually what would it be? It would be a $1.40 loss after a YouTube takes their cut. Well, is it really a loss? They're not gonna, are they gonna go back and fucking get a refund on their super chat because you didn't read it? Yeah, yeah, I mean, that would be a pain in the ass for two bucks. Oh, maybe do I have

Pretty fucking liver spot free my forehead anyway This is a earlier clip 19 I should have played this earlier where John Talks about his NYU education He just said that I'm not doing anything with it. I went for film and TV. I've been on TV for 30 years and his dumb fox says I'm not doing anything with it. Was it on TV? I wasn't in movies? I don't have doing it. I said you're not doing anything with it. That's the distinction.

The carol made that I thought was important. He's not doing anything with it right now as evidenced by his shitty fucking presentation with every podcast that he does. He, I just, I just don't get the guy. I don't get stuttering, John. Like, even like, I've been on TV for 30 years. No, look, I was on TV.

I was on TV from 2012 to 2017, I think, which was five years. I don't say I've been on TV for 11 years because the show ended fucking six years ago, you know? So it's just like, no, dude, you haven't been on TV for 11 years because the show ended fucking six years ago, you know. And so it's just like, no, dude, you haven't been on TV for 30 years. You were on TV for your stern run. And then you were on TV for a couple of years with your tonight show run. And then barely on TV because they didn't want, people didn't want to look at you. So they gave you the job as a writer, probably not because you were a great writer, probably because J. Lennalen was like, felt guilty. He's like, fuck, I fucking fished this guy

out of the stern thing as a revenge fuck. And now I'm stuck with him. He's no good on camera. He's awkward. He's off putting. People don't really seem to, you know, he's no Ed McMahon, which is who he thought he was going to be. So what do I do? I'll stick him in the the writers room. Yeah. And what I'm sure, I don't know enough about this to have any sort of viewpoint, but that generally doesn't stop me. I'm sure what it was is, they paid the money to get them from Stern, as you said, the

Revenge puck. And then it's like, okay, now we got this dipshit here. We've got to give them something else to do other than just be the announcer. So just have them go write a joke or something. Just keep them busy. Yeah, because I've been in writer's rooms and you don't have to contribute a fuck ton. Like you write a sketch and a bunch of other people rewrite your sketch, other people look at it at people pick it apart You got to rewrite it all that kind of shit, you know, so it's like if you have a basic idea a lot of times in a writer room

That's enough And then you know just give my premise punch it up. Yeah My clip 20 is Carl gets a shot in that stuttering John doesn't like Clip 20 is Carl gets a shot in that stuttering John doesn't like You actually had an important role on Howard search show you would know who they are because that was one of your Competitors in a major market that you were just like how are certain those who the fuck they are you should do But you're just a call screener, so it's fine Oh, okay, I'm good deal. Yeah, anyway. I'm buddies with that. It was through laying now on those guys I'm just a part of our live show. Yeah, when you really believe I'm just a call screener.

Yeah, well, you're a stunt boy too. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, so my whole career is a call screener. It's such a fucking asshole. I don't know if you picked up on it when we had John on earlier. I gave the same response to John that Stuttering John just gave to Carl when when John said Doug You're no better than Aaron or Aaron's better than you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, really?

Yeah, he did not like to hear he doesn't want to his accomplishments diminished in any fashion You know, and he has had a college was that's why like, you know, when people are like, oh, Stuttering John versus Shule, it's like professionally, yes, Stuttering John has done more than Shule, but in terms of like, uh, industriousness and getting something going, fucking Shule has done way more than Stuttering John, Stuttering John can't like he can't even fucking podcast past sundown because he says have any godness house. Whereas Shulie's shit looks pretty professional and they like I look at those guys and I'm like, God damn, I wish I had the technical skills they have. Like pulling up fucking pictures and fucking pulling up videos and all kinds of

stuff. Graphics. I might be too old for the game. I don't know. I'm a young streamer trying to look at looking to make my way. What do we got here? Oh, this clip 21 is for anybody that out there that wants a drop. Oh, it's not letting me play that one. We'll let you play clip 21. No. Huh, what's it saying? It's a stream yard problem. Oh, shit. Um, well, I pull the clip.

It's a, it's starting John saying, I know you think I'm an asshole, but I'm not. I thought people might like that as a drop. Well, we could, we could run and write into Clip 22, where this is where I actually believe Stuttering John shows the slightest bit of evolution into, into his brain functioning correctly and rationally for even for just a moment. Yeah, you bashing, trying to look like a fraud, you know, hey, whatever. I mean, it was different time, different place, you know, and I didn't know what the hell it was. And in fact, in fact, I used to do a joke on stage that when my daughter told me she was

trans, I used to say, what do you want to airline? Ron, call me a homerun. Like what the fuck, man? Like if you're going to make that joke, a car, like it's a terrible joke. But if you're going to say like, or your trends, what are you? A car, not an airline. The first half thought of when I, when I, when you played that clip is referencing John's memory how he doesn't remember any of the bad shit but he can remember verbatim a shitty joke from

apparently 20 years ago. Yeah his memory is very selective but I was happy to hear him say like you know it like for once he wasn't fucking coming down on everybody else and talking about how everyone else needs to atone for their fucking past sins and all this other shit. He's like, you know, it was a long time ago. And basically, and I've heard him say a couple of things, you know, in yesterday's hypocrisy police as well, where he's talking about just like, you shouldn't be crucified for something you said 30 years ago. Like if you're saying it today, okay, then it's a problem. But jokes you made and shit you said back in like, you know, the 90s or the 2000s. And I think as far as I can tell, we're getting away from that kind of shit, you don't see people like it's, there's no more pandemic. So people don't have a heart on sitting around like we're looking for anything to do which includes canceling people for fucking jokes they made or shit they said or things they did you know decades and decades ago so like

could this be a kinder and gentler stuttering John we see coming down the pike maybe he won't be so no you'll be supposed to be equally as judgmental about everybody and everything yeah I think anything that you think he learned in this conversation with Carl is already gone. Mm hmm. Yeah, you're probably right about that. The one thing about this, this part two is he didn't shout over Carl as much as he did in the first one, but Carl still, like he gets a couple points in, but for the two and a half hour slog that this thing was, Carl should have gotten to talk more.

But Stuttering John is just, he doesn't want to address anything that, like Carl's bus bus in his balls calling him a call screener and shit, but like the real, the hardcore stuff that you're just, like just fucking answer the mother fucking question, John. Just to answer it, that's what I mean, he's just so fucking frustrating yeah my final clip has come full

circle with more slings and arrows from Vinnie Paulina and my feelings about Vinnie Paulina at the end and he said that about you I Read these off my Christmas card list Jesus now. He's like calls it. He's you know, he's a nerd You know, but he gave you he goes is he a good marketing yet That was you like how many gave me I'm a good marketer. Yeah, but he goes I'm gonna text this motherfucker right now. He's got my shit list He's a great guy that guy that he's a guy that can be my friend. He just texted me says, I feel like Lex Luthor, after giving the kryptonite bomb to Otis to use on Superman.

Okay. Vinnie sent me that same text and I had no fucking idea what he was talking about. So for Vinnie to be calling Carl and nerd, give me a fucking break. I was on a comic book show for seven fucking years. I had no idea what he was fucking talking about. So for Vinnie to be calling Carl and Nerd, give me a fucking break. I was on a comic book show for seven fucking years. I had no idea what he was fucking talking about. It's some obscure like it's like Lex Luthor's henchmen or something. I have to look it up. So for Vinnie Paulina to be calling Carl and Nerd Carl, I think he got some ammo. And again, this is more shit from Vinnie Paul, you know come in Carl's way So I'm curious to see where this goes. Will there be will cart will Vinnie and and southern John do a show together? I'd watch that

If if there's a double cross coming from Vinnie then I'll watch I'll wait to find out yeah I don't necessarily have any interest in listening to Vinnie and Stuttering John befriend each other But if it's a double cross then it's worth it. Yeah, I'll invest my time for the double cross And there's a lot of a lot of that goes on in this in this world like MLC Shuley Chad

Some of the smaller some of the, you know, Ray DeVito, it's like everybody's constantly double crossing each other. Alliance is shift and suddenly, you know, Julie hates Chad, and Chad has a show on the Shulee network. And then fucking, you know, Carl hates Chad, but the KB hates Chad, but then KB suddenly on Chad show, you know. So there's like seven players in that game. And in the last six months, any one of them have hated the other one and shit talked them and shit streamed them or whatever. But it's the same seven people just cycling through each other.

Yeah, that's what like the like at first, I really wasn't drawing the MLC and Chad the sniping back and forth. But then it just like it got to the port where KB was just he's just yelling the same shit over and over again. And it's like that. To me, that's not a show like reading super chats and just complaining about the same guy. It's kind of like I get it. It's a way for you to make money and you're making some decent, like you know, you're not e-begin. People are, that's a difference. He, like, when, like, KB, it's like, if, let's say, he'll hit the like button, you cowards or something like that. But he doesn't constantly remind people about the super chats and send me more money and all the, the can rattle in like April and, and Aaron do.

Definitely. My, my, my offer to make April a sister wife still stands to this day. I have yet to hear from her, but my wife and I are willing to open our doors to her. She's going to have to babysit once in a while, though. We got a 17-year-old kid with Down syndrome who's really fun, though, but she could go do girl, well, I don't know. She could teach her how to hunt and how to. All that stuff that I can't do because I'm not manly enough. All right, is that the, uh, that was it for the stuttering John segment. Yeah. And it sucks because like again, like I wish I was better at pulling video because I would have went back and pulled stuff that he has recently his last night that I saw. I was like, Jesus Christ, this guy, it's unreal. Yeah, this, this, he was on with Alex Dynan.

He's, he's defending Bill Clinton with Monica Lewinsky, the whole Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky thing. And it's like, dude, like where have you been? Like, like Alex Dynan was like, it's the same thing as Harvey Weinstein and some of these actresses. And starting, John's like, no, no, no, it was consensual with Monica Lewinsky. It's like, no, it's a dude in a position of power

exploiting a younger girl for his own sexual wants and needs. That's it. It's that simple. So like, if you're gonna defend fucking Bill Clinton, you have to defend Harvey. Stuttering John. I don't know. I think I could more eat if I have to choose one defend. I could

choose to defend Harvey Weinstein only because I'm not aware of him sticking a cigar up anybody's pussy. Yeah. Brewering gal. So that's it for Stuttering John. Yep. And that's it for Steel Toe. My review girl didn't want to do a review today. I had my wife who's a review girl sometimes decided she wanted to go swimming with the kid instead. So you want to wrap this up or do you want to do a Patrick Michael real quick? Oh I could always do a patty puke water patty seat cups. What will make it short? Okay. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me if you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show.

Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Don't tell me you don't like my show. Because that's absurd. I got all the... Because that's absurd. All right, I listened to an episode of free water that came out yesterday or the day before, and going into it, I was not excited.

Like, I've listened to enough to him of Patrick Michael to know that, like, I've listened to him say all the dumb shit that one person could possibly say, I was wrong. I mean, so. Really, he's expanded. He is expanded his stupidity. This first clip is just that in and of itself, just talking or him saying something that dumb enough for me to clip.

But I will say I am happy to be doing this because it took me a little while to want to fucking sit down and just talk to myself while talking to you guys. He's still fucking stupid. So what the little bit of this episode that I listened to, he spends a lot of time talking about his live stream. What is it? Great job. Awesome. Is that as you to, he spends a lot of time talking about his live stream, what is it, great job awesome, is that is you do channel. And how much he, he doesn't podcast as much anymore

because he spends all his time doing that. And then he's also, he starts talking about how he doesn't like doing that because then people can interact with him in the chat, which is why you should go do it because then you can interact with him at the chat. Those of why you should go do it because then you can interact with them in the chat. Those of you that aren't aware, it's live chat. People get to sort of be a part of the show. And as I always said, not one of my favorite things, okay?

Okay. If you want to listen, if you want to come over and interact with me, I don't want to interact with you. Yeah. Is he monetized? Is he taking super chats and stuff? I don't know that he's, I don't want to interact with you. Yeah. Yeah. Is he monetized? Is he taking super chats and stuff? I don't know that he's I don't I don't know how many if he's got the sub-count

and all of that yet. Yeah. Should go find him in sub-tomb so he can start making a couple bucks. Although he'll find a way to say no, he doesn't want to do that for some reason. Right. He'll or block you. I'm about caught up that much on patty. Is he? Where does he work? Does he work? Does he work? The only thing I, I am so far removed from that universe, I only listened to an episode prior to doing an episode of WATP. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, because I know there was a stretch where he was at Arby's, but that was some time ago. Here is a, this is an example of him saying something and cracking himself up, which it's pretty good. So, the clip itself is a minute and 11 seconds long.

What he does is he'll crack himself up. I think he throws in an applause break in there, and then it is a full minute of the background music. I assume it's just waiting for people to recover from the laugh. Because remember, like he said, 150 pounds is a towel to him. Don't forget to bring a towel. Ah! Ah!

And now it is 55 seconds of just this music playing. After you said don't forget to bring it to hell. Yeah, so I'm going to try to jump ahead in the clip here to where he comes back. Okay, so enough about that guy. That's about the Bradley Marks, Ella. A full minute to recover from that joke. Wow. He's something else, man.

He's an interesting case study like if I could sit in on his therapy, I would pay for it. Yeah, I think I think he's a lot like Aaron. And he's like Aaron without the superchats. And the inability to make Harley come. There might be why she took off. He never mentions his kids anymore, as far as I can hear. I mean, as far as I can listen.

Yeah, I... This one here is just an example of... I... And I don't have any room to talk based off of this episode that we just did. But the soundboard that he's using appears to be a distraction, because just in the audio, you can see him struggling. He has something in his head. He thinks he has a sound.

And then he tries to get back to talking, and there's some gaps in there with the distraction. It's not that important, I'm not that interested, although there are a few new YouTube channels that I've became a fan of simply because they're covering this. And they happen to actually have like kickboxing backgrounds and shit, and they're like, there's no fucking way. There's no fucking way. There's no fucking way. So I applaud that, you know.

He knew where he wanted to go. He knew how he was going to get there. He just didn't know how long it was going to take. You know who is the master of dead air is Ron Bennington. Like Ron Bennington knows exactly how to use dead air. Patti, it seems does not. And then the last clip I have from Patrick Michael, as I don't even remember what it is, it's just a clip I say for Karl's board. It doesn't make any sense. Some people just say things to say them. And that's that. That sums up, Patty. First. All right.

So we don't have a review girl. And we don't have Lucy type box. And we don't have any voicemails. So I think that's about it. Yeah. Okay, folks guess what the episode Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Party in the muskets of morning radio. Hey, now the show is closed right now. Okay, great show.

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