Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep44 - Step by Stapp

Episode Date: January 1, 2017

Well it's officially 2017, so congratulations and let this year be the year that ketchup gets baked right into the bun at Burger Kings across the nation.  That being said, its the final WATP of 2016 (we recorded it on 12/31, nosey) and we are brining you the final podcast review.  It's a show called Step by Stapp and the premise is that every Creep song was written about an episode of Step by Step.  Don't get to excited because the show description is where the funs ends.  Unlike WATP who's show descriptions have won awards for "Wordiness" and "Pointless Banter to fill space".  Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello and welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts. I'm Kevin and I'm Carl. And we listen to podcasts that you don't have to. We want to remind our listeners you can visit us on WhoAreThese.com or on our Facebook page. We're always looking for new podcast suggestions, so leave us a comment, post a death threat if you'd like. On today's show, we've been reviewing a show called Step by Step.

As always, we've listened to this show separately. We've not discussed it with each other beforehand, so without a further ado, let's find out once and for all who are these podcasts. It's show time. W-A-T-P! W-A-T-P! Well, it was my Scott Stap. Your intro keeps getting more and more ridiculous the way you were saying Who are these podcasts?

Oh, oh, yeah, it's out of control at this point. Yeah, well, you got to mix it up a little bit sometimes You know, you got a I guess So how you doing it's new year's Eve It is new year's Eve happy new year whatever you're supposed to say I'll tell you man. We we usually record on the weekends because of the holiday schedule We recorded a couple Wednesdays in a row So this is like back-to-back episodes us. We feel like we just recorded an episode. Yeah, yeah, it was just a very good.

Yeah. So it's interesting because this show, step by step, is terrible. But compared to crime and cocktails, I was actually finding elements about it that I could compliment. That I, you know what, I feel exactly what you're saying because I was listening to it. I'm like, well, there's a couple of things that are all right, but I mean overall,

it's fucking horrible, but there was a couple of things that weren't that weren't that bad, I guess. So maybe we should start with the premise of the show. I have a clip that we can play. The reason why this podcast is called Step by Step, Play Track 3. What we're doing today is we're talking about episode 19 of Step by Step, and we're also talking about the Creed song, Signs, which is from the album Weathered.

We're going to talk about those things. And you may not know, or you may know, but I'm going to tell you either way, the song is about the episode. Of course it is. Yeah, so for the audience, step by step was a 90s sitcom. If you're not familiar with it, it was part of the TGIF lineup. So they try to make a comparison between a Creed song and an episode of Step by Step. Well, I guess this is the whole promise of the show. They do this every week. They have a different episode of Step by Step that they watch and then figure out which Creed song was written about it, which is a terrible promise and a really shitty idea. But as I listen to the show, I realize that that's not what they're doing at all because the Creed song the lyrics aren't even close to anything about it These assholes just think that they're improv Comedy gods and just needed some type of vehicle for them to have their witty quote-unquote banter back and forth

That is that is very true and I found a quote unquote banter back and forth. That is very true, and I found a bit of a hidden surprise, if you will, on their website. Oh jeez. If you go to step by step, that's two Ps on step.com. Yeah. I'm there now. I was looking at it. Okay, so I scrolled to the bottom because I was dicking around a little bit, looking around,

see what they had, and there's a follow section which has their Facebook and Twitter feeds. And if you hover over the Facebook icon, you'll see that it says Family Shatters. So that was the name of their Facebook page. So I'm wondering if it started out with we're going to do something with Family Matters, the show, another TIGIF show, and then they settled on step by step as the vehicle for their ridiculousness. Because they do not deliver, I mean, on the promise or premise of the show at all. It doesn't relate at all, like Carl said, they're just trying to fucking... They're just trying to have a reason for them to act goofy. Alright, well, let's get into this because I want to play an example.

There's numerous examples of them. And what I would call their improv, I don't know, that seemed to be what they're all about. Someone would say something and they would just keep going on a premise that was dumb. Track 10. This one sums up the entire show for me. And then guess who comes to the door? Ding dong. Yeah, exactly. That's a great impression of a doorbell. I've been practicing. Have you? Yes. Paying off.

We don't have it in my house. So anytime someone knocks on the door, I go ding dong. You yell ding dong. Yeah. At them. Yeah. I open the door and I yell ding dong. I'm like, oh, I didn't know you had a doorbell. We don't have good, right? Right, yeah. You've tricked people yourself. Oh, tons of times. Wow.

Every trick or treater. You get a lot of trick or treaters or no? What? Look at that. Yeah, it's- There's nothing entertaining about that banter. There's nothing interesting about it. Yeah.

I've got one of them doing what they call method acting, which is essentially the whole fucking show. So here we go. Yeah. Guys, that was a really weird noise. You hear that? Yeah. What was that? I don't know.

It was like wind and like a time warp. Put together like wind and a time warp. Yeah, I will agree with that. By the way, my name is Scott. Step just thrown it out there. Yeah. So they pretend that this is their episode that we reviewed was recorded the day,

like on Black Friday, so the day after Thanksgiving. So they do this whole thing where the band creed sits down for Thanksgiving dinner. So that's what they're talking about there. So they have to introduce their characters. Yeah, I'm Scott Stapp. Like they don't even try to like do a like you know, they should try to do some type of impression, you know, exaggerated Scott Stapp shit or something, but they don't

even do that. They just, you know, just come up with these promises and they're like, yeah, I'm Scott Stapp. Now I'm eating Thanksgiving dinner and then they make a lot of noises like this. Alright you want to eat? Let's eat. Okay. And scene. And scene. So I had that exact clip.

It's so irritating. Yeah. You guys are not fucking funny. Yeah, I mean, there's, it's, there's a couple things that they said in there. There was a, I hate to admit that I actually kind of like this, but they do something where they repeat each other a lot like they did this thing about I don't know if you have it I think I do too it's about the van get in my van you remember that section I sure do yeah they do they're reviewing so they they talk about the show the episode of step by step and one of the scenes was something about golf course and the daughter, one of the daughters from the show, liking one of the rich kids' kids or something, not whatever. And so there's this whole thing on Get in the Van and it just retarded because it just

goes on for way too long. And they got damn it, Dan. Just get in the van. Dan, I get it in my van. Dan, I just get in the van. Dan, your parents are looking. They Dan. Just get in the van. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, If you love my father and hate me, you'll get in the van. So they do this one that's Ben Affleck, I don't know if you remember that one too, or they kind of go back and forth. That one wasn't a second Oh, I've kept you're you're actually like this was good. No, no, no

This was funny. No, no, no, no, not this the Ben Affleck thing because it's the first time that they did that back and forth Was kind of entertaining and then they went through this whole van like Jesus. This is their time that they did that back and forth was kind of entertaining and then they went through this whole van like Jesus is this their thing they just go back and forth and say the fucking thing a million times like for a bent-affleck they're like they're talking about they're talking about how they're method actors and they transform themselves into the characters right the opposite what they actually did. Yeah, so they're like, so kind of like Ben Affleck and Superman, except blah blah blah, or kind of like Ben Affleck and blah blah.

So they kind of, saying they were good actors and you wouldn't know it was them, you would think it was Scott Stapper, whoever, they were, they're not like Ben Affleck and Goodwill Hunting, or, you know, they're just, they're just making fun of Ben Affleck for being a shitty actor. Right. So that part of it was mildly entertaining to me. The first time I heard it, you know, because it's the first time they went through this

dumb bit, but then they went back to it with this van thing or just repeating and talking over each other and it just was, well, the worst part about these assholes, is if they were to say something funny, they would certainly ruin it. And this is a gripe I have with bad morning shows too. Here in Rochester, we have Brother Reeves who's the big morning guy. And if someone tells a funny joke, he has to stop the show and repeat it

and call it out as a funny joke. It's the dumbest thing you can do that getting the van gag. You didn't have the whole thing on there because it went on for out of the eight and a half minutes, but it's a very bad thing guys like, hey, we could be 69 and all the way to a pizza parlor, getting the van. Right. And instead of moving on, if that were a funny joke and it's not, they would have ruined it. Play track 14.

If you want to 69 all the way to the next pizza parlor, you think anyone's ever said those words before we've talked about this sometimes like like the we started this episode with me asking to borrow your leaf blower. And I said, I don't think that's ever happened on a podcast. But just the sentence and on a podcast, it's a very isolated world of words that have been said, right? We're talking all of humanity has anyone since, yes, vans existed, even, care of vans in the old Egypt days. It would have to be since, a, vans existed, two pizza parlors, and three sixty-nine. Yeah. Vans existed to pizza parlors, yep, in 3690. Yeah.

So they're just pounding this into the ground. They're just beating this dead horse. Could you imagine if I was like Kevin, you know that wet hand jobs is by catchphrase? Oh my God, did you hear what I just said? Do you think anyone's ever said that before? Yeah, dust. What a wet hand job.

I wonder if if you could trace back wet hand jobs and if those two words are ever put together and the human language, we should talk about that for another 30 minutes to come. Yeah, it was so hilarious. We just got to keep talking about that. Yeah. The subordinate comedy from Dane Cook

is all I can figure out. There are several blood slides. It's, uh, to me, it's, it's, they have a loose premise and I very loose premise that they're just using as a crutch to act like assholes or not really act like assholes, but to, to do this this whatever. It's a boring improv thing that they do. Right, right. And that they're structured around, you know, this, this creed thing and all the other stuff. And I wouldn't be surprised.

I didn't do the research on these two gentlemen, but if they're not improv people, like if they're not into actually doing improv on stage because they kind of seem like the types. Well I have another theory. I was listening to this show last night with my wife and she said it's really hard to tell these two guys apart their voices sound very similar. Could this be one guy who has no friends who's pretending to do improv? Do you think maybe it gets that all over? And if that is the case, this is fucking genius. I've just turned my whole thought around about it. That's the case of this guy's amazing. Yeah. I mean, we know that they have no audience. So is it possible that

they also have no fronts? I think so. It could be just one guy. I'm actually pissed off because they actually have a good logo on their for the podcast. I'm like damn it. But yeah, I mean shit, maybe it is, maybe it's one dude. You know what these guys? All right, let's go back to the promise that there's two separate people who are boring as shit. You know what they remind me of? Those two assholes in the Sonic commercials? Oh yeah. It's also a type of banter where they're like, oh, I got a hot dog. Yeah, me too. Sweet. Let's eat her hot. And by the way, does anyone eat a hot dog in a car? Have you ever eaten a hot dog in your car before? I have never eaten a hot dog in my car before. I can trust that. Those commercials, if you just look at the

premise of it, these two guys are buddies and they just get hot dog and tater tots and just sit in their car and eat them. It's an raging one you think about it. I guess it is. I never really thought much about the sonic commercials, but like, asshole, how poor are we? Can we just go to a restaurant that has a table or sit there at eat food like an octopus? Or do we have to sit directly next to each other's at that point? Oh my god, it makes zero sense if someone was eating a hot dog in my car, I'd be offended. I don't like that premise at all. It seems terrible. Ah shit. All right, getting back to these assholes. There was this one

Part where they started discussing the one guy was discussing having an Asian visitor or Asian visitors come over to his house And I thought I thought that this was a little bit insensitive play track 11 Now when they come to the door I your dang dong Wow, I mean that's that's not nice know, just because the Chinese people have funny names. That's, that's too bad, they had to, they had to stoop to that level. Yeah, we don't do that here on WETP. Alright, so the show gets started really terribly. I have on here track number one called Terrible Show Intro. It's not, it's, it's bad because I have a Creed song. But then listen to the execution

of this guy starting a show. Step by step, day by day. Can you take me higher with your arms wide open? Welcome to step by step. The podcast I am your host. Wow, makes me makes me feel like I do an awesome job. It's true in the show. At least you don't correct yourself up with your going, oh, oh, baby, dude, I don't know you're second music. So you might be having a chuckle. So this is Chris McCarthy and his buddy Rob Hadden are the two show hosts. I don't know what their deal is other than that they're probably gay lovers. And on their website it says it says the Chris and Rob literally take you in a time machine back to the 1990s. Does anyone know what the word literally means? Well these two don't I know stupid I hate that's my biggest pet peeve now. I think we talked about it a show a couple of weeks ago. It's literally like going into a time machine. Well, let me tell you, I never at all felt like this podcast was cohesive.

If it was trying to reach the premise that they had laid out, it's just very much two of them fucking beating off on their microphones, slapping their bags on a couch, basically for 40 minutes. Thank God this was only a 40 minute podcast. But they never, I don't know, they just doesn't seem like they ever try to tie it together. They're just like, oh, here's the episode of Stubbi Stubbi. And here's this fucking ridiculous Creed song that no one has ever heard of some fucking B-side Well it was Creed album a 2001 album Creed was already a joke by that right right you right so it's some no Yeah, I'm why at least guys even know this song well

Unfortunately, they've pigeonhole themselves with this ridiculous premise because now they have to have a band that had what four or five hit songs. Well, there's four or five episodes that you've that you can do. So now you have to pick all the fucking dumb, you know, songs out of their their ridiculous albums, which well, all of them are, but. Yes, it's not the masterpiece album. Yeah, I mean, you know, I feel like the first episode was probably the more I mean, here we go. So, uh, uh, so this episode of Step by Step was, uh, they get into a hot air balloon and this relates to, can you take me higher? See, that's like, that works.

That would work because the saying, can you take me higher? They're in a hot air balloon. So, so here's the thing. This is a show where they came up with the name before they decided how they're going to execute it. Right. And you see this with movies a lot, you know, movies will come out and they're like this would be an awesome movie title. Now it's right a script. I'm trying to think of an example, but there's a lot of them. Bad versus superman. Oh, no, but I never I haven't seen that movie. Have you seen it?

I have not. I've only heard it shitty. But yeah, it's going bad. But step by step is obviously they're like, oh, okay. Yeah, that would be funny because staff sounds like staff. It's they didn't think that this was going to be an interesting premise and then come up with a name. Right.

Which is what I was saying with the family chatters thing. Like if that's actually what I think it was because that Facebook page doesn't exist. If you try to hit that link, it goes nowhere. Um, I think that that's probably was their first thing. Like, well, we're going thing like well we're gonna do we're gonna whatever talk about family matters TV show and that was gonna be their podcast and then they came up with this step-by-step bullshit so yeah

you're probably right they probably came up with the title first like oh that would be so funny and now they're unfortunately pigeonholed into doing a show where they have to, you know, crud bar these things together every time. They seem to enjoy it. And it probably turns most people off. So most people will never have to hear it. So that's a good thing. Right. It's fine. But they do talk about another show idea that is retarded. Play Track 2. Anyway, welcome to Can I borrow your shit? Can I borrow your shit with Bob featuring my neighbors?

So Bill, I've been meaning to talk to you about that snowblower you got there. Yeah, I got to last winter. It's a great snowblower. It is great. I can't help but notice it's snowing right now. Yep, and My driveways piloting up so is my though and I kind of bought that leaf blower so I could do my drive one Well, it's good. I don't need the leaf blower. I need the snowblower of the snowblower Can I borrow your shit?

Then at that panel now that that Yeah, seriously Then it that fan no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no and get a little bit tight in the pants. They dock with each other. They're docking. It's celebrate another great show. Google it. I have a few more tracks that I want to play here. I have boring Thanksgiving banter. Oh, it's so much yesterday. Oh my god, you kidding me?

I took stuffing and I stuffed it inside the turkey. Ha ha! Young man, what are you doing here? Laughing at jerks? I got a little Nelson. These guys are so boring. Yeah, it's You know, I mean, what can you say? The premise is fucking dumb So I knew that we were heading into you know a dumb show

Obviously when we were reviewing it, but I didn't know they were gonna think that they were such Improv pros that they could just go off on all these different premises and and have these hilarious banter back and forth. They might want to write shit down, maybe script some things because they are not funny off the cuff. Yeah, you know who else isn't? Cobra Commander, when he, when he pops in, because he's essentially doing the same goddamn thing. But when he comes on, it's just, you know, a shitcho, as we know. But Cobra Commander isn't supposed to be hilarious. He is, you know, the leader of a terrorist organization.

That's true. I mean, you know, I guess that's, that's his fur. That's, if you were looking at his resume, that would be listed first. But I think before improv genius, yeah, I thought I figured like humorist is probably like the second thing It's like comma. Yeah, a terrorist leader comma humorist and then you know, the comma improv genius I don't know Is that on his LinkedIn page? I'll have to look that up. It sure is What you see I come from Anna. Can we come back down LinkedIn? Yes, I want to you need to recommend me for Joe killer. That's my

Special skill I will endorse you No, hold on a second. I don't think I will because I've never actually seen you kill any of the GI Joe's What? Wait a minute. Wait. They they always just jump out of the plate. I told jump out of the plate Well, I've been executed my new plan as I I talked about a few weeks ago on your goddamn show Well, I'm shooting their parachutes So they can't I believe it haven't seen it. I'll believe it when I see it. You're all talk.

Well, I am all talk. That's very true. That's the only thing I have. You can't see my goddamn face. So you can't see any emotions. All right. I've seen- I love the way-

My staff is listening to this. Feel free to go find us right back. Then this guy does this fucking. It's horrible. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it.

Just make any sense. Make no sense in the context of the show. I wish you would do a Nick Cage instead of you way better. No. My Nick Cage instead of you way better My Nick Cage needs lots of work. I think Nick Cage can literally take us out of time machine back to when they were signing the Declaration of independence of independence You know what my favorite band is Creed Can you take me higher? So let me play a clip that sets up that Creed's first Thanksgiving play that you played a little bit of. Play track five. We take you to 1991 to

the apartment of the band creed. So let's take you back to their apartment and just see. Let's check in on them. What are they up to? Yeah, and we actually, we found some transcripts. We did. From the first family dinner they had together. We'd like to take you back to that right now. Come on. Don't you have a better sound effect for going back in time? Do I? You mean this one?

You hear that stuff by stab stop it with your mouth noises that you guys fucking make. I'll show you guys can You can clip that out of here if you want get some production So here's an example of this hilarious play play track six I'll show you guys can you can clip that out of here if you want get some production So here's an example of this hilarious play play track six When we use it you don't all of it right now by ourselves all of it Yeah, all of it the frozen turkey the box of stuffing unbox So we think the box back out port on the table yeah, all right So they go through this whole premise of the Thanksgiving, Kreeds first Thanksgiving, and they say that they found transcripts from it,

which is stupid. And then they come back and this is a clip that I call no shit. So you mentioned earlier that we found a transcript of that account. Of course, yeah. Well, that's not true. We made it up on the spot. Wow. Obviously, because terrible.

You know, so then they go into this whole thing about having someone transcribed their podcast. Right. Which I think they actually did. Which they did on their website. Yeah. It's a higher episode is transcribed on their website. You can go and read it.

I don't know why you would. I mean, if you I sure she wouldn't. Yeah. If you're if you're looking to, you know, if you're, I guess the only time that you would want to listen to this is if you were in the midst of making a news, and it was taken a long time, and you were kind of like, you needed something to keep your mind off of the rope. Yeah, like, if you started cheering up a little bit, and you're like, maybe I shouldn't end it all, you know,

maybe life is worth living. This would be a good thing to read. Yeah, yeah, I think that this would just would take your mind off of what your hands are doing tying the the news That might be good. You know, it's funny as we're listening to this I'm gonna take you guys back a little bit and not just because I want to play this sound effect, but we're gonna take you back So when I was little and this is actually true way before the internet and everything else that we, the creature comforts that we all have right now, a friend of mine

across the street, he was my neighbor, he was my best friend. We used to do these things called, which we called, humor tapes. And it was a cassette tape, and we put it in there, and hit record, and it was a chance for me to do all of my really dumb impressions, even way back then. And I'm talking like, you know, at 10 or 11 years old, this is when this was going on. This sounds, this podcast sounds a lot like the tapes that I

used to do with my buddy when I was 11 years old. These humor fucking tapes. Tell me you have an example of this. I wish to Christ I had an actual. I know, but I'm telling you, like this, we were like, we were pioneers. No one was listening, just like this one. No one was listening to these tapes except us. But we would do these, you know, just hit record and then do these stupid premises and then talk, like we had an audience or something and it's literally exactly the same. I don't even hit the words literally but it sounds very very similar to to step-by-step everybody. So if I could do a reverse sound of this I would because now we're back of the present. We're back everyone. This is two of us. I figured out the reason why these guys do step-by-step because that

show is actually edgier than these assholes. Patrick Duffy was known to be very edgy for his time. Yeah. Yeah TGIF was known to be pretty racy on Friday night on ABC. It was least a stand for a thank god I'm fucking. That's what TGIF stood for I think. Whoa, wait awh.

Thank god I'm fucking. Kevin, wait out! Thank God, I'm fucking... Kevin, there might be children listening. Oh, man. I'm sorry, kids. Sorry out there. Patrick Duffy was a known coosound. These guys were so cheesy in their banter as you've heard all the examples.

And then this gem sneaks out. Play track nine. Oh, I thought it was probably her vagina juices. That was like, wait, what? That's where you perked up. That's what I woke up again. I'm not trying to listen to this podcast. All right. And then the only other clip that I wanted to play from this show is they do play a little bit of the creed song that they're saying is about this shit, this episode of Step by Step. And I have a clip of that because I know creed as well as most people do. I know the couple of hit songs that they had and you know, everyone thought they were kind of a Pearl Jam rip off and Scott Stap just over saying, but listen to this. This is Scott Stap doing an over-the-top Scott Stap impression from what I can tell. I

Think if you were trying to do Scott stab your homework He does all of this shitty Scott stab things and just that one segment of the verse. This is not a bow or arrow. Yeah, it's pretty pretty horrible. It's funny to me like I love the trends of because people are way more cynical now than they were I feel like when we were growing up at least all right maybe maybe because I'm an adult. Now it's different, but it just seems like you mentioned, uh, Dane Cook before. So that was a time that I was famous for being a comedian.

Yeah, but here's the thing, like I owned a Dane Cook CD when he first came out. Yeah. And everybody kind of thought, you know, he was entertaining. And then it became popular to dump on Dane Cook. It was like, well, fuck this guy. If you go back and listen to those albums, though, there isn't a punchline to be found.

It's crazy that he was famous. Right. Well, so then that started the Dane Cook fall from grace. So now, you know, the dude is, you know, I probably still perform. I think he does. Who knows, you know, what type of crowds he gets. I'm sure it's nowhere fucking near where he had it at the height of his popularity, but it's the same thing is happening to Amy Schumer right now so Amy Schumer went through this this big boom and everybody was paying attention to Amy Schumer And she had a movie and but now everyone's like fuck Amy Schumer. She's not funny And then there's this big backlash. I think it's because she got a little preachy.

Well, probably, or maybe. It's a political and preachy. And it was like, okay, Amy, I calm down. But then, so what I guess my point I'm driving at is Creed kind of went through. Now, by no means have I ever thought that Creed was a good band but it does sound a lot like some of the shit music that was out at the time. So they

were kind of a lot like every other thing that was out and people they were famous. Fucking people really liked Creed. Kevin that's a great revelation. Creed was famous. It were famous. And then all of a sudden it became, you know, they suck and we should, you know, fuck them and then they fell from grave. You know what? The same thing has happened.

They're in the Nickelback. Exactly. Just about to say, Nickelback is in the same thing. It was like, Nickelback was huge and that fucking hits on the radio all the time and people seemed to like them. And then all of a sudden a sudden like I don't know who but somebody said Neon what Nickelback blows and everyone was like yeah you're right and then everybody hates Nickelback. I was like just got on my blog one day and just said you know I started dissecting this Nickelback song. This sucks. These lyrics are ridiculous. But what I'm saying is like it's, it happens, it doesn't take much nowadays for people to,

to jump on a bandwagon of hating somebody because, whatever, there was an S&L sketch about it or something, it's like they just need it a little bit of a push, and people are like, you know what, fuck this, you're right, this person sucks, This is horrible or whatever. And it's interesting to watch because it's, you know, I could say to people who are like fucked in cook. Am I going, yeah? Well, you're probably had one of their CD, one of his CDs at the time, or you probably repeated one of his jokes or whatever. And it's like, it's just fun to me. So, so I understand and I have been goofing on Dan Cook. I know you're talking directly to me or whatever and it's like it's just fun to tell me. So I understand and I have been goofing on Dan Cook. I know you're talking directly to me

because I do own albums of his. But when you said repeated one of his jokes, can you give me an example of a Dan Cook joke? Oh boy. If I asked you for a Mitch Hentberg joke, I bet you'd probably have a few. David Talley would have a few. But is there a dane cook joke?

Yeah, I mean I can't think of it. Well, I mean it's exactly you're right I mean it doesn't your noise is that he's got a lot of energy Like his jokes are just the energy he brings Yeah, and you know he was popular at a time where that was enough To get you through I think there was a combination of things going on for a day. I don't want to turn it into a day-and-cook podcast, but there's a combination of things going on for a day-and-cook. He was a good-looking guy, and he was funny,

and he had all this energy, and I think that's why a lot of people... Well, I'd suck it. I'm sick, but I don't like it's not good. But I mean, it's true, and I think that that combination of all those things is what makes, or what made him popular. Now, I don't know, I wish that I could, no definitively, what it was that made people turn the corner.

But I do remember a mad TV, this is going back a long ways, but mad TV did a sketch where I think Ike Baronholz, which was on the show at the time, did an impression of Dane Cook. And it was like basically pointing out like that he had no jokes, and this is just ridiculous. He's being an asshole on stage and you know, walk around like a raptor and like whatever dumb bullshit that he used to do. And everybody, you know, the five people who used to watch Matt TV must have taken notice of them.

And then all of a sudden it was like, oh yeah, yeah, Dan Cook is a shitty. It's like it takes one person to point it out to other people and they're like, yeah, you know, that is kind of... Well, all right, I didn't do my Dane Cook research. I didn't realize it. This is what we're gonna talk about most of the time.

But you're right, no one watched Mad TV. So that wasn't it. But all the other comedians hated Dane Cook because he got so famous so quickly. And he was doing Madison Square Garden. And the other comedians were watching him going, what is funny about this? I actually spend all my time writing jokes. This asshole gets up and acts like a raptured at his selling out fucking MSG. So I think that's really where the backlash started from was just the other comedians who thought he sucked.

Yeah, I just, I guess overall, and not just I didn't cook, but I always find it very fascinating where, where someone is they have to of their popularity and then within the blink of an eye can be told or influenced by the masses that they suck. And that, you know, I'm trying to think of an example, like, current day. Like, it's almost like if everybody... Hmm. How about Ben Affleck? That might be a good example. Yeah, that's true. I mean, yeah, I guess there was a time where he was kind of looked at as an up-and-comer and stuff. And then whatever.

It was gilly or whatever it was that people were like, well, fuck this guy. Well, he's a shitty actor. I mean, I haven't seen Batman versus Superman, but I do know that he's a shitty actor. What's not? I mean, I haven't seen Batman versus Superman, but I do know that he's a shitty actor. So I've seen him in a couple. I don't want to get too far removed from step-by-step. Can you just real quick play?

I pulled an ISO of this asshole laughing. Can you just play that so we can get back to this real quick? Yeah, yeah. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh my God. Oh. god. That one I will keep for future shows that one and this other ISO I have on here. Dang dong.

Oh, so racist. Yes, seriously. Such a good. It's not cool. There probably third generation. They're probably named Bill and Karen. Come on. Bill and Karen don't yeah Boy so yeah, that was step-by-step. I don't think I have anymore I have one called horrible Joe. Let's hear that one I have one called horrible Joe. Let's hear that one. All right.

There was a whole scene where Dana blew up at Frank's because she had a whole scene where Dana, wait, what? A whole scene where Dana blew Frank. Blu up at Frank. Oh, yeah, they had a falling out. They had a fight. He said blew up. I love the guy.

That's funny. I would rather listen to Creed to this podcast. I'd rather hear the sounds of gunshots from my parents bedroom than listen to this podcast. Oh my god. Jesus. That's like terrible. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah, it was a bad one. This was a listener's suggestion and they were spot-on with how? They were spot-on. Thanks, Jackie. Here's the one compliment I could give them. Audio quality was great.

I don't know. It was fantastic. They had the levels perfect. Right. It was very easy to clip because in a lot of these podcasts, we listen to there's so much noise going on. You can't tell when people are talking whether or not this one. If you just looked at the wave forms in whatever software you're using, it's very pretty. We're going off the rails here now.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if they use a noise gate or what they use, but yeah, there was literally no noise between voices as they were talking which is impressive That is about the only thing that I would give them for their little shit fest There were there was no there were no noises and no laughs. Yeah, both They nailed that right, right. So it's kind of like a Carlos Mencius show. Hey, oh That's another guy Carlos Mensea stole some jokes people hate him now but he was he had a fucking show

and kind of makes a joke okay yeah Joe Rogan that's right by the way we're at the 4508 mark so my Skype should be shooting the bed any second now yeah it's true but it is not yet but it has not yet. But it has, yeah, all right, good. Well, in that case, Kevin, I wanna say, we had a lot of fun this week. Yeah. And we did two shows.

And next week, we're actually gonna take a week off, right? Cause you're going to Disneyland? I am going to Disneyland, that is true. So I will not be here. And I don't think you wanna do the podcast by yourself. So I will not be here and I don't think you want to do the podcast by yourself. So I don't. And I'm going to go and see a Buffalo Sabers game. So it's kind of like going to Disneyland. Yeah. Much a lot like it. I think. Yeah. Just like that. People people are dressed up as furry animals. We're not. Yeah. We're not going to do that's true. So we're not going to do a show next weekend,

but we will do one the weekend after that. And Kevin, I'm excited about the show that we'll be reviewing. I have what I call a teaser clip. So that people who are listening to this show can get excited about listening to our next podcast. Please play next week's teaser. Where do we begin? Let's start by removing the eyeball. Here, take these.

Now just squeeze the four steps on the eyeball and pull. Make sure not to pull too hard. We need to keep the optic nerve intact. Piece of cake. And... got it. Very good. What now? Grab the syringe and withdraw blood from the optic nerve. All right. Done. Now? See the hole on the right side of that little black cube?

Slip the needle in there and deposit the sample. Deposited. Yeah. What is this? All right. So this show is called Darkest Night. It is one of these podcast dramas where I love these shows because they have to explain everything they're doing

in order for it to make sense. And then they have these sound effects. She's pulling blood out with a syringe. It's like, that makes zero sense. That's not what that sounds like at all. So this is the first episode called The Will Reading. It's from October 31st of 2016. And there's a lot of famous people involved in this.

Really? The narrator? Yeah, yeah? The narrator? Yeah, yeah. The narrator's a guy named Lee Pace. I don't know if you know that in. Oh, yeah, I do. Okay, yeah.

He was in Guardians of the Galaxy and the Hobbit. He's been a lot of... Yeah, he's in the Halt and Catch Fire, which is a TV show I watch on AMC. Oh, yep, yep, exactly. He's... They also have RuPaul is one of the actors. There's people from American horror story There's actually an actor from a we're alive, which is a podcast that we review So I know that I would use that as a credit, but

It's also produced by the no sleep podcast people, which is another podcast that we reviewed. Right, right. That was garbage. So, you know, we haven't done one of these in a while where we've had a lot of bad acting and fully work, so I'm excited, you know? It's, it'll be a nice change of pace for us. Yeah, it's not, you know, people talking,

getting drunk and talking about a subject or. Oh, thank God. That was, Kevin, can we just talk real quick about crime and cocktails again? If people would want to say, if you didn't listen to our show from last week, you should, because, holy shit, that sucked. Yeah, you know, it's the trend for a lot of shows like on the last day of the year, which it is today, is we're recording this, to do like a top 10 or a top five we don't have all that time for that ship but I'm gonna say the top the worst podcast we reviewed in the year of

2016 was was crime and cocktails in my opinion that was by far the worst one we've done. We're just saying a lot. Right, because this is episode 44. So, yeah, it's a lot of bullshit we've dealt with over the weeks here. And yeah, it's... I just... because there was just nothing redeemable about it at all. There was nothing that I could have said, okay, I'll give them that or or anything This was just literally a bunch of drunk people turning out a fucking cassette recorder and and recording Well worse than that it was drunk hillbillies and they apparently did not understand the subject matter at all

They were talking about Jack the Ripper and they had to go to Wikipedia the first sentence in Because they were disputes over facts in the case. It was just terrible. Yeah, it's like people don't understand what it is to produce a show or to have something. I mean, whatever, I'm not going to sit here and say that we have all the answers, but at least we know that there's a beginning, middle, and end to a show. We have most of the answers. You know what's interesting? You talked about a lot of podcasts to you there, top 10 or top five, or you know what would be interesting to do? We launched our first show on March 2nd of this year. Maybe when we hit March of 2017, we can do a retrospective

and maybe give out some awards, the WATP awards for the worst podcast, the most poorly produced podcast, the surprisingly terrible, whatever the categories are. This one sucks for this reason. Yeah, I mean, we could do that. It's been a while since we went back and talked about snatch that weave or what you're talking about. Oh, and you know, we should mention, since we've been on the air, some of the podcasts that we reviewed are canceled, I guess you could say, or no longer putting out new episodes, like cocktails and centiars, right? Those ladies hung it up.

And then we had another one that just we just found out about stuff your mom never told you about. Right. Right. Which I think was our first episode. That's right. I'm looking at our page. Totally married was our first one.

Okay. It was pretty early on I think it was it was episode two was stuff Your mind never told you about and those women were insufferable, so I'm so glad So they don't have a show anymore. Yeah, they tweeted they were like well it took us 800 and something epic I'm like holy fuck 800 episodes. I don't know. I think they have, did they have a network? They went out and networked or something. Yeah. They did. Oh god, I can't imagine.

Let's have it. Look at our iTunes page right now. Go to who are these podcasts on iTunes and give us a rating and write a review. We'll be sure to read it. But it's funny at the bottom. It says listeners also subscribe to and man cow is down there. Oh, yeah, I see. I see that sometimes man cow like a few of the ones that we've reviewed have been listed there.

As as you know, alternate things that you could listen to or whatever. Yeah, I always find that pretty funny. That is funny. If people who listen to our show are also man cow fans and that's not a good thing. I should also say too, I don't plug it in the beginning. I should probably change that, but we also have a Twitter, which is who are these pod? So it's at who are these pod and if you're you know looking to get a feed essentially of what we're posting on the Facebook page those auto feed to the Twitter and then we also obviously tweet from there as well. So if you need to everyone ask us a question if you don't want to dick around with the contact form on the website you can also tweet us at

Where are the who are these pod Jesus? I can't even fucking say it Who are these pot is the Twitter handle if you want to get us that way anyway? Okay, so I have a Hopefully everyone had a happy new year at the end of 2016 a pretty shit year for most people myself included So I'm glad that it's over with and looking forward to. Bill Burr was talking about this on his podcast and I agree with him. You know, this is like the meme is 2016 was a shitty year. And 2016 is just a year like every other year. Was it You can't blame the year for being shitty. Yeah, I just, I had, well, I had some really positive things

happen this year. When I moved down here, I started dating my girlfriend, and I moved down to Tucson. And so I definitely had some positive things happen here. But it's like, no one's ever included moved to Tucson, and there were some of things that happened. Oh, shit. That's probably true. But hey, I like it down here. It's it's good. It's warm and it's also where my girlfriend lives. So there's that part of it. So 2017 is is going to have to be better than 2016 because we didn't start 2016 with podcast

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