Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep518 - Weaponized

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

This week we’re digging into a topic that I find interesting - Ufology. George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell have been following and reporting on UFOs for many years and have a deep knowledge on the subject. Unfortunately, we’re in a rough period for this subject as the US government has once again dismissed any evidence of UAPs or government programs to study these events. Sad trombone. Ray DeVito joins the show to discuss the podcast that he listened to a little bit of and “got the gist” of. Then I introduce Ray to Lisa Boswell and Helga Mann and he watches it like a child watching a cartoon. Lisa once again reinforces why we love her. Also, Stuttering John reveals how much of a scumbag he really is as he falls for a fake email and decides he wants revenge on Producer Chris. Finally, we have a special round of Who Said It for Ray DeVito and Annie joins us for reviews and voicemails. Tickets to the Vegas shows May 31st – June 2nd – https://www.hackamania.com/ use promo code WATP for 20% off Bri's GoFundMe - https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-brianna-shannon https://www.raydevito.net/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So they're going to be doing a live, the biggest problem in the universe on Friday night and they'll be involved in festivities throughout the weekend. So looking forward to that. Also, we encourage our listeners, give us a five-star review on Apple podcasts or wherever you review podcasts and then shit all of us in the comment section today, we'll be reviewing a show called weaponized. This was a suggestion from Jared Daniel. We have both listened separately. We had a discussion with each other beforehand. Let's get into it. The show hosted by George Knapp and Jeremy Korbel. And this is a show about the battle for UFO

truth. Now, when I say we have not discussed this beforehand, I mean it. Ray, did you get a chance to check this out at all? I did. I listened to part of an episode. I get the gist. Okay, good. I get the gist Okay, good

Yeah, I'm gonna play some clips of it, but before that I just want to know what's your take on? ufology UFOs UAPs what are your thoughts on this? This is gonna be deep. This is just me being great. I'm very deep. I'm a very simple guy as you know Here's how it is Carl. This is my whole thing on UFOs aliens, whatever is there stuff out there? Obviously there is every time you look in the sky. All right, you see At night you see all the stars. That's like a that could be another solar system out there

So there's definitely some light out there There's definitely life somewhere around out there. I I know I'm assuming that there is alien life out there. They know we exist and they don't give a **** about us. Okay. They just look at us as nothing. They don't look at us as a threat.

They look at us. We can't even get along with each other. How are we going to like get along all get along with each other and take care of someone else? We're literally to them just like mosquitoes or something. That's what they

look at it like. They look at us as like no threat to anything. I see mosquitoes as a threat. I actually I put up like screens and stuff around my pool because of mosquitoes but I see what you're saying. So, this is interesting. I didn't

realize you were going to go in that direction. So, why do you know that they know about us because they visited here? I'm just assuming. Maybe they don't know about us specifically, but I'm sure there are things out there that know of us. They're just aware of the galaxy and universe. Yeah.

And they look at us, if they do look at us, like they can barely get to the moon, they're not a threat to us. They're gonna be they're gonna self-destruct before They can even think about wait where have we gotten to the moon ray? I? Was told we did okay? My teacher told me we did So I have to say yes all right so George Knapp is this guy out of Vegas who's a reporter. He does a great job.

He's done tons of reports on Area 51 and the different phenomena that surrounds ufology and everything that's going on with the UFOs. And then Jeremy Korbel. Now I saw Jeremy Korbel on the Joe Rogan experience. He was on there with Bob Lazar. Now, Bob Lazar is a physicist who allegedly worked on alien spacecrafts at Area 51. I've seen the documentary that Jeremy made with Bob Lazar.

He seems very credible. He talks a lot about the reverse engineering that they're trying to do. Because of these fallen spacecraft, they're trying to get the technology from them. So this is what we're dealing with, all right? Just to set that up. And we checked out the most recent episode of Weaponized

and this is how- Before you get into it, can you explain, I mean I know of Area 51, I know of it. So is that like just where any alien object, because I do believe there's probably like aliens, more to send a droid just to like, hey what's down there type thing. I mean, you know, is that like just where any alien object because I do believe there's probably like aliens would

have sent a droid just to like hey, what's down there type thing? Sure. Um but are they just sending it to Area 51? Like that's where like the postal code address to go or we just find it on earth and we put it in Area 51. So, if I'm

not mistaken and gosh, I haven't studied this stuff in a while but in 1947, there was a crash at Roswell. Yes, yes. And I believe that whatever crash at Roswell was transferred to Area 51, now whether Area 51 was built around that or near there, I believe there was something that involved with that. that but no the spacecraft doesn't come to area 51 to visit that's just where allegedly when we have captured whatever be whether it's species or aircraft that's what we bring it to we take it there all right yes if you get a baseball card you got to take it to the PSA to get it rated we take it to we

take not even close to the right not even close to the right analogy not even in the same ballpark Geez Yeah, this is what you're dealing with Honestly I go through hundreds of suggestions people sending suggestions they emailed them in they sent them on patreon They put them in the discord of old channel for review suggestions. I send me suggestions, they email them in, they send them on Patreon, they put them in the Discord, we have a whole channel for review suggestions. I go through there, I look around, what's gonna be interesting for people?

When I saw this, and Jared actually sent in a few different UFO podcasts, I went, oh, I wanna pick Ray's brain on this. I was interested in what your take was gonna be, so I'm glad you're here for this episode specifically. This uh something I did on purpose let's put it that's a calculated move on my part so it starts off with uh with this question Jeremy I'm gonna call this the Michael Corleone edition just when I think I'm out they pull me back in you know we've been quiet for a while why are we doing this you know man I missed you all right so we're off to a bad start. First of all, isn't it michael corleone? It's like corleone. Is it

Am I crazy? Corleone michael or corleone godfather. Yes. All right They start off they go. Okay. Why are we doing an episode right now? And they're like well because I missed you. I just wanted to shoot the show. I'm like, uh-oh so they don't have a lot And they're like, well, because I missed you. I just wanted to shoot the show. I'm like, uh-oh. So they don't have a lot to talk about. I think they're joking.

This is just called banter, Carl. Come on, cut him a break. This is banter. Well, it's actually not a good sign for them that they say, yeah, there's a lot of issues going on in their community right now, where people are kind of upset with what's been going on. And I'll get into that here.

We've been on a roll. You know, the UFO community in general, the topic in general has been on a roll since 2017, since that New York Times story kicked things off and all the other things that have come out as a result of that. It's been mostly a peak, but you know, this was going to come, it was going to happen. The dark empire strikes back and tries to dissuade the public, the media and Congress from taking this seriously. And they did a really good job. I mean, as we talked about it, I think in our last episode, the last one of weaponized,

this was a body blow and it was serious, but it's not a death blow. It's not the end of everything. It happens. Do you see what George is saying right here? He comes out and he goes, all right, look at a lot of this stuff has been discredited. A lot of people aren't believing in it anymore. It's the tough time for us who were trying to prove that there's extra trust in your life visiting us. And, uh, I don't know. It's kind of a dark period. So I was like a weird way to start the show. I almost felt like maybe gloss over that or don't even mention it

Just get right into your stuff. You want to talk about now? He's letting us know there's doom Plus he brought up Empire Strikes Back. So Star Wars reference and he's got the George Lucas hair. I'm in okay good All right, so we need to be science fiction for you. Yes Enjoying it. All right. I got it. I got a this is all science fiction What no matter what comes out of this guy's mouth, it's gonna be science fiction. I don't know about that. So, I've, you didn't ask me the question back, so I'll just give you this information. I've actually witnessed two different UFO events in my life. For real? For real. Yes. One of them, my wife and I were driving back from Toronto and we both saw it plain as day in the sky on an afternoon.

No clouds in the sky and it was there for a while. The other one I witnessed myself over my house when I was coming home from band practice. So I'm a bull. Mandolin practice? Mandolin practice? I had the six string for that one, uh I do practice the mandolin from time to time. That is true. Uh real quick. People get annoyed when

I do this but if people are gifting memberships, that's amazing. Joe Dick are gifted five. Who are these podcast memberships? Thank you very much and Joe Sposto gifted one who are these podcast memberships. Thank you very

much for uh for doing that. I appreciate it guys. Alright, so what he's talking about is there was this AERO report that came out. A-A-R-O. So this is the Defense Department's All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. They released a report detailing its review of nearly 80 years of reports on government offices and special access programs related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, or UAP, a new turn that was once referred to as unidentified flying objects, UFOs.

Arrow has found no verifiable evidence that any UAP sighting has represented extraterrestrial activity, said the director. Arrow has found no verifiable evidence that the U.S. government or private industry has ever had access to extraterrestrial technology. Arrow has found no indications that any of the information was illegally or inappropriately withheld from Congress. The 63-page report provides conclusions drawn following an examination of historical documents and conclusions drawn by US

government programs that did work related to UAP dating back to 1945. Arrow assesses that alleged hidden UAP programs either do not exist or were misidentified authentic the U.S. government in 1845. Arrow assesses that alleged hidden UAP programs either do not exist or were misidentified, authentic national security programs unrelated to extraterrestrial

technology exploitation. We assess that claims of such programs are largely the result of circular reporting in which a small group of individuals have repeated inaccurate claims that they have heard from others over

the period of several decades. So this is what they're responding to. And now if you remember, it was about nine months ago that a couple whistleblowers came out in front of Congress and said, we have definitely had altercations with extraterrestrials, with UFOs. And this was a big news story and I want to bring this up because this new Aero report that just came out pretty much put a damper on all of this. Like people in the ufology community were excited when this happened.

And I'll just play the NBC News report on this. Welcome back. Lawmakers on the Hill today held a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, also known as UAPs or used to be known as UFOs, amid growing public interest about potential extraterrestrial life beyond planet Earth. The committee heard testimony from three witnesses today. One was a former Navy commander, one was a former Navy pilot.

Both of them claimed to have seen UAPs, as well as a former intelligence officer who goes a step further and he alleged that the government is concealing a quote multi-decade crash of a UAP and a retrieval program. Take a listen to more of what this person had to say. If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?

Non-human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked about. So Ray, this was a bombshell. Do you remember this happening? No. That's what's crazy about it. This came out, I was talking about it when it happened. I thought it was a big deal and everyone just yawned and moved on. They're like, okay, whatever. And so now this new report from Aero comes out and it says, yeah, this is all bullshit. There's been no programs. Anyone who says there is, is lying. And so these guys are coming out on their show and they're going, okay, let's get back to the point where we were all thinking that UFOs were real because those people, those whistleblowers

were in front of Congress talking about it. Yeah, this sounds real. Also though, all right, let's say it's real and it sounds like it is. Well, this press conference is real, yes. Yes, but like, every idiot getting hysteric over this, you know what I mean? Like, it's an incident, there's obviously something there. It's like we don't need to freak out.

I feel like I'm the mayor in Jaws right now. Yeah. Like, hey, summer's coming, we don't want everyone to be scared to go in the ocean. Correct. This town makes a lot of money, let's just chill out, not act like it's a big deal. Yeah, let's not act like it's a flu that came over from China that we have to shut down our lives for two years before. I agree with you. This isn't a big deal. It's just proof that there's extraterrestrials visiting our planet.

Yeah, it just kind of just proves all religions, but other than that, no, it's great. Okay, so these guys are talking about how this recent report that came out is bombing everyone out. Yeah, I mean, even now, which a lot of people out there in the UFO universe think is a down period, there's no, there's not much going on. There's a hell of a lot going on. Even in what is perceived as a lull, there's a hell of a lot going on that's important. And, you know, don't give up. There have a lot going on inside it. Like, hey, we came from here or that we'd understand whatever. I don't. I don't think that's what they're trying to get to the bottom of per se. But what was in this UFO? You said that there was some type of life form? Well, that's what they said. I didn't say that. You just heard the person reporting on it. Yeah, that's what

I heard the guy say. Non-human biologics, he calls it. Non-human bi... Now I'm like what is it so like an alien like animal or like just an alien Form it's a life form This was was piloting an aircraft that was in our airspace. It's crazy. All right. Let's get over there Let's move past that right because I think it's a big deal too Every time every time like there's just a new animal born at the zoo. It's a big deal This is an alien object like alien life form that's here Also, and it's on the news right so let me explain how they discredit it all of this so there's this program called

Kona Blue and the Department of Homeland Security was actually in charge of this program and they just recently released declassified documents about Kona Blue. Now, the program was set up to study and exploit UFO technology back in 2011 but it

was never funded. So, it never actually happened. So the whole point of them declassifying this is to say, hey, these guys who got up in front of Congress, they're claiming that they're part of Kona Blue. We never even funded that. So they're lying. This never happened. That was the whole point. This is what these guys are talking about. But you say, shouldn't we be excited about this? There's someone else who's very excited about it, I think is of note. But that was a proposed special access program that was supposed to really go forward into studying the UFO phenomenon and associated phenomena.

Can you tell us a little bit about that? Because in your book, that proposal is everything but the name is in your last book with Dr. James Lakatsky and dr. Collin keller Before we go there your buddy Kirk who lives on Kona. Oh, who is this? This is this is that okay. You're outing him as a UFO guy. This is Kirk Hammett from Metallica Metallica you hear that right Kirk Hammett from a tail cuz excited about this shit I thought he was I thought he was all worried about Ticketmaster. Now he's worried about this?

That's decades ago. Wow, you're way behind in the news here. Yes. Do you know who else is really big into UFOs and stuff from bands? Remember Tom DeLong from Blink-182? Yeah, yeah. He became a UFO researcher full time. Where's he? He should be studying this stuff. I think Blink-182 got back together, no he did a lot of research on this. He put together a lot of **** so I thought that was fun because the guy's like hey

isn't your friend Kirk into this? He's like yeah right you got me Kirk Hampton. I talked to Kirk about this **** all the time. It's kind of fun. Blink-182 their music does not age well. You know like middle-aged men. Yeah middle-aged men singing about the girl that broke up with them like during the summer. Well, all that music that appeals to people in high school and college doesn't age well. Green Day does all right.

The topics don't make sense. Green Day still is all right. You think so? Yeah, I think they're fine. But Blink 182 is the one where it's like ah All that pop punk stuff so I'm I listen to petty wise and no effects So what that pop punk stuff started getting popular? I was like we forgets girl punk rock We sir aged all right. Oh god we sir has some terrible albums. That's not the point the point is That they explained the reason why. We're talking about aliens. I forgot.

The reason why they declassified this information array is to discredit the whistleblowers. What they said about Kona Blue is these witnesses who came to Arrow, quite a few of them are confused. They're telling us about seeing crash retrievals, reverse engineering programs, and what they're really mentioning is Kona Blue. That is total bullshit. Not one witness came to them and told them, I saw UFOs stashed in a hanger run by a program called Kona Blue because the program never existed.

They had no budget, they had no hangers, they had no buildings, they had no staff. It never existed. So there's no way in hell a witness came forward and told Arrow, yeah, I got all this information from Kona Blue. It never existed. So there's no way in hell a witness came forward and told Arrow, yeah, I got all this information from Kona blue. It's bullshit. So these guys are frustrated. And I actually understand their frustration because as you saw it, I see, I saw you get excited about this. Here are these guys who work for the government are just like, Hey, we know about aliens. We're not telling you Congress, but we're working on stuff. It's all top secret and classified and so everyone's like oh cool

What's that kind of stuff and then these guys come out? They go those guys don't have any credibility. They're lying This is a program that never got funded. It's not a thing These guys are pissed about what the fuck that's not cool Well, what is Fred Durst think about all this I never thought when biscuit was that great? I got I got a ask if I think I'm gonna see Corey Feldman open for Limp Bizkit this summer. So, I was joking. I was just trying to ask him. The shittiest I can 90s. I understand.

Alright, so, this though, I I I apologize. I found some of this interesting. It's a very dry podcast. It's if you're not into this **** you could could not possibly pay attention. I'm kind of into it. Basically talks about how this is just a distraction for to get Congress and not pay attention to it anymore. So they can go back to funding the military industrial complex and voting on bills to make sure that we keep building missiles and sending them over to Ukraine and Israel. So that was basically what he was talking about. I was like, okay, yeah, no, I get it. It kind of makes sense that they'd be like,

are we gonna get Congress back to doing the things that are important to the US? And that is building missiles. All right, fair enough. Right. All right, so then this is a weird thing because this guy, George. Also, before you move on though,

let's face it, that's everything in Congress. There's so many other things, like how to make food better. They don't give a shit about that. It's like, all right, it's getting missiles to send overseas to... Those are their donors. It's all like all in military stuff.

Those are their donors, right? That's where they get their money from. And if we had term limits, they wouldn't have to raise money all the fucking time. Yeah. It's a very simple solution to this. That'll never happen. It's fun.

And Kona Blue, that's a good name for a band It's not bad or a beer. I can see it. I can see the Kona blue light maybe Kona blues No, the government's good at naming shit One thing they're good at they must have a team on it. All right, so for a reporter I thought this is a weird thing for George Knapp to say on this one. Do you think that's a big conspiracy or what do you think?

No, I don't. And I don't, I haven't asked him directly. He has not given me a response to it, but I got a central sort of a general sense. So that's a weird thing. I haven't asked him, but he hasn't responded. I have a general sense. Like what didn't you say? I don't know. I would have asked him but um he hasn't responded. I I have a

general sense like what did you say? I don't know or you would ask the person and get the answer before you report back. It just seemed like a bad answer on this one. I mean, essentially, that's my podcast. I don't actually get correct

information. I just I just turned on the recorder. That's my point, right? Precisely. Okay, let's talk about something that you enjoy. Comedy. So apparently John Oliver, you fan of John Oliver? Yeah, I haven't seen him in a long time, but yeah, me neither. I kind of dropped off. He got preachy. But so he apparently put out this UFO special and they want to talk about that. Didn't agree with everything he said.

I mean, they kind of made some joke about, you know, the drones, drones and that kind of thing, but at least they covered it. And it's being talked about in pop media, which did you see it? I haven't seen it. I've been told about it. I saw they were teasing it. People on UFO X, UFO Twitter were saying, oh, here it comes. It's going to be bad. And then people who watched it sent me some notes saying you're in it. I don't know. So George was in this and he still hasn't seen it yet. Ray, I don't know about you, but if I'm in like a documentary about UFOs, I'm watching that shit immediately. I'll pay the extra money. I don't care. And here's the fence man. Like there's so many podcasts that talk about you and me.

Do you watch when they talk about us? That's a good point. You know what I mean? Like I don't. That's a good point. Alright, fair enough. You're right. If this guy just think he's getting trash, he's probably just like, I don't need to watch any of that. Yeah. You're making you're making a good point there. So I like how Jeremy is just like, okay they can they goof on us, but at least they're talking about UFOs. He's very optimistic. He's like, so John Oliver's on there to goof on all of us who think that UFOs are real, but they're talking about the subject,

that's a good thing, right? Don't think it's bad publicity. Yeah, well the other thing John Oliver can also do in his jokes, I mean, obviously I haven't seen it, he can kind of say whatever, because I don't know the backstory. Well, right. Do you get what I'm saying?

So he can do a setup anyway and manipulate his words to come to what he wants the end result to be. So he could set it up to make this George guy look like an idiot and like George is like alright he just took what I said out of context. I'm sure there's a lot of that. He is good at comedy people do that. He is good at that. John Oliver is for sure but I thought this was an interesting take that he had having not seen it obviously, but I like John Oliver I like that show it's funny. It's thoughtful When I heard that they spent like a year working on a UFO special I thought well, that's great But a year isn't really enough time to get your head around it

Um, you know, no matter who you are I have to say he's been a on it. It seems like a lot to me. I was impressed by that. Like they spent a whole year researching this shit for this show. Now, I want to watch it. Sounds like they probably have some good information, but according to George, they're just like, oh, one year is all you spent looking this shit up. What do you what could you possibly know? But I do get where he's saying like this is

the one thing he cares about. At least those people now it's being brought to attention. someone's gonna look into it more because they hear of this Kona blue maybe Corona Corona blue I don't know that John Oliver was talking about Kona blue I'm not sure that that I think he was just talking about the UFO research in general I don't know I haven't watched it either I I do want to check it out though because I'm interested in this kind of stuff so this is fun because as you guys are noticing, this show is boring AF. It's just two guys having a conversation, but not even really having a

conversation. A lot of it's just one guy talks for a long time and the other guy talks for a long time. I'll show you an example of how that works out. But I thought this was an interesting thing to do on the show. It's over over a hundred unknown units that were swarming 10 Navy warships in 2019 off the West coast of California. We provided thermal footage. We provided IR. We provided radar. We provided deck footage.

We provided witnesses that were firsthand testimony of active military that were there. We did all of this, I think, in episode two of Weaponized, and everybody should go back to episode two of Weaponized and watch that. I love that idea. It's just like, all right, look it guys, this episode's really boring, but we used to do really good stuff. We used to have some really cool footage. It was interesting. See my earlier stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go back to episode two. It's really incredible stuff. Now you sound like Weezer. Don't listen to the last two albums. Go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blue Album and Pinkerton. That's all you lie to you. It's really incredible stuff. Now, you sound like Weezer. Don't

listen to the last two albums. Go back. Blue album Pinkerton. That's all you need to know. Pinkerton, man. Yeah. Come on. The green album, it was pretty good. If Green album was fine. I'd like to say. You didn't like Hash Pipe? Come on. It's a

good song. Of course. Great song. I'd like to say, when we first discovered Patrick Michael on WTP, it was great. Go back to episode 142. Listen to that one. If you're bored with this. We used to have a really good show. That's a weird tack to take. I don't know. All right. So then this is what I'm talking about where Jeremy Corbell enjoys the sound of his voice. He could go on and on and on and on. And what you're going to see here is George is watching him talk and then decides to just start writing

notes down. He's not even paying attention. You know, he talks about the Langley incursions and this is important. You've got a military area being penetrated by these unknowns and they can't find them. But he also brought us back in history and he talks about how some of these were transmedium, the footage you and I obtained in release in 2019.

So you notice how George is looking down and writing notes while he's talking. My guess is that he knows that Jeremy's going to go on for awhile. And it's like, all right, the next thing I want to talk about is this. Let me write it down. So I don't forget, which is probably a good strategy on his part. I would imagine, you know, he's, you know, he's an old man because like, he's doing it with a pen and paper. It's not like putting it in, into his iPhone notes, right? He's not typing with one finger like stuttering John

All right. So this I found annoying. I hate they're talking about this article that came out on the hill By the way, look how nice George's hair is dude. He's fucking crushing it. Yeah, it looks like a painting almost. Yeah Really get the brushstrokes. So I encourage people to read that article by Merrick in the hill because it was really illuminating Yeah, he does some really good work. I fucking hate shows that give me homework to do. Can you summarize it for me? I'm not gonna go read an article. I'm listening to your show. Just let me know what the gist of it, please I don't want a show that gives me more things to do to understand the show. It's too much. Dude, I hate homework. I hate it. It's my least favorite thing.

All right. So then George has written some books and he's going to talk about one of the books that he wrote, and it sounds like nobody cares about it. The public is always crying for more data. We need more hard data. We wrote an entire book filled with hard data called Initial Revelations, the follow-up to Skinwalkers of the Pentagon, and it goes case by case, pulls these incident reports from the data warehouse, a lot of them from the 50s and 60s, long before drones were

available to the general public. These are not drones, but these cases were significant. They were well documented. They are inexplainable. In some cases, they have severe national security implications. In some cases, the witnesses had severe medical effects, harmful effects, good cases, pre-drone era, all kinds of technical and engineering data, and the world largely ignored it. I mean, there it is You're always crowing about wanting more data. There it is and uh people aren't paying attention to it guys I wrote a really good book. Why aren't you reading my book? It's got all this stuff in it. It's really cool

No one's buying it. How come that's good So what I say with my old comedy albums, I already put that out there like I check it out It's great. Everyone wants to ignore this data all this data i created jokes i wrote jokes why don't you have my jokes they're there yes get them don't check out mine come on all right one of my favorite things about like any of these conspiracy type shows it doesn't have to be about ufos per se but any type of information they can get through playing the phone game they're very happy to report back on. And here's an example of that. So look, this brings me back to those text messages

or whatever from from our pal, Christopher Mellon. One of the things that was written, he has this inside guy who's basically like infiltrated the crash retrieval program, it sounds like, and he's reported back to Chris. and it says, right now, we haven't gone that far back. We're dealing with the recovered UAP that landed in Kingman, Arizona in the 50s. We're vacuuming up info as so-and-so gets read in. We now know the management structure and security control system and ownership of the crash retrieval. We also know who recovers landed or crashed UAPs and under what authorities. We also know that a still highly classified memo by a secretary of the US Air Force in the 1950s is still in effect to maintain the cover on UAPs.

I just thought this was like the coolest because they're talking about direct knowledge of UAP crash retrieval programs. I mean, that's a bombshell, that text that came out, right? So what he literally just said right there, and he's very excited about this information that they're looking at on a Reddit page or something. But what he's saying is that he's in a text thread

with a guy who has a guy who's on the inside somewhere. Like this is like fourth hand knowledge that we're now getting. It's like, well, it must be true that if you know a guy who knows a guy, I gotta imagine he probably has all the info. Also like they're discussing stuff that happened in 1950s. Don't you think the aliens like have upgraded?

Like who cares about their old technology? That's like trying to figure out an Apple computer from 1982 interesting. Let's Let's let's explore that I am an idiot. I think about So Ray, let's say that we were able to get people to the moon in 1969 yes Amazing feat and thank you for all the female minorities who did the math to make that happen. So let's say that that is what happened. These people who came to the US or the US to Earth in the 50s had the technology

to travel across galaxies to get here. Sounds like pretty impressive tech, right? I would just like, yeah, I would just throw it out. Probably even though it'd be old for them. Like it's pretty cool for us. It'd be like, all right, it'd be like, let's say you took a time machine, you know, back to the future style. You go back to 1955 and you have a Game Boy, the original Game Boy, black and white Game Boy. Every fucking kid is going to be so stoked about playing that Game Boy. Every fucking kid is gonna be so stoked about playing that Game Boy. Now, do you care about the first Game Boy? I don't, I don't wanna play it at all.

It still holds up. I'll do some Tetris. All right, Tetris, you got me with Tetris. Oh yeah, I'll sit on the can and play some Tetris. What do you want me to do? Have you never taken an improv class in your life? My yes and, yeah, my yes and. You're fine.

By the way, I do love how last time I was on the show where it was a bunch of adults sitting in diapers pretending to be babies peeing each other, and now it's this, like this is, why was I more on the, why am I more on that level? Why do I tend to find more with the adults wearing diapers and peeing in them? Ray, we have some range on this show, I have with the adults wearing diapers and being in them

I have to tell you but you know what you're right. I've made a bad calculation I have one more clip and then we'll move on I Thought it should get your take on UFOs. I was completely wrong about that. So that's not me. I enjoy it. No, it's all right I'll admit when I make mistakes It's fine But when I wanted to play for you because now everyone sees I can't Like laugh at scientists like are these guys are smarter than me What really look at these idiots studying stuff and researching and writing books put a bunch of dorks I feel like I'm Chad on this fair. What's your door fair enough?

And I'm not even criticizing them as you've heard me say I'm on their side now. They're not scientists. These are these people are scientists I'm on their side. Now, they're not scientists. Neither of these people are scientists. Okay. One guy's a documentarian, the other guy's a news reporter, but it's fine. I'm on their side. I actually agree with a lot of the things that they're saying. But what I thought was crazy about this show is that it turns out to be, and I thought it was going to be crazier than this when I got the suggestion. That's why I picked it. It turns out to be just this hour long conversation between these two guys who are kind of upset that people are falling out of love with following UFO news. And you watch the cold open, the cold open sometimes lies to you, man. Sometimes they make it seem like it's way more exciting than it actually is when you get into it.

Coming up in this special episode of weaponized, not one witness came to them and told them I saw UFOs stashed in a hangar run by a program called Kona blue because the program never existed. It was a perspective Special access program and we we know some of the people involved with that. It never got off the ground I did know about Jay Sands, you know, I've talked to him many times back in the day It's not something I could personally report on because there's, you know, what is the difference between verifiable information and not verifiable information? Secrets, coverups and strange phenomena.

UFOs and ideas that challenge reality itself. Doesn't that make it seem like it's gonna be way cooler than it actually turned out to be max headroom Episode of weapon I yeah, what the fuck was that all about I don't understand We're max headroom comes into play on this They show space aliens and cool shit All right, so that's the show weaponized if you're into that sort of thing Those are two guys who are very good at talking about UFOs with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell

So go ahead and check that out and see if you can have the attention span longer than Ray DeVito's to So to understand what's going on. I'm just saying like I'm not that uh but Cone of Blue dude. Way to save it. All right, Ray, and Helga Mann of that reality show? No. Good. Because I can't wait to introduce you to these two. They're my favorite elderly trans women on all of the internet. And I decided to go back. So we started covering them a couple of weeks ago. And since then they've become huge celebrities.

They're up over 1000 subscribers on YouTube. They're very excited with themselves. We've kind of changed their show a little bit in certain ways by just talking about it. So I thought, let me go back to an episode before we were talking about them to get a better sense of what was going on before we kind of, uh, I don't know, empowered them in a certain way. So they did an episode that was all about appreciating their viewers and their friends. And they talk about the viewers. This episode I'm pulled from has 50 views on YouTube, right? Okay.

It's not super popular at this point, but I appreciate that they appreciate those who watch their show. But you know something? I don't really care about talking about Donald Trump today. Neither do I. What I'd like to talk about is viewers. Viewer appreciation. Yeah.

Because I found some things out over the last week or so. We've got some really, really loyal viewers that really love us because they figured out what we're up to And figure out what we're doing because we're trying to entertain as well as inform I want your face just lit up when you saw Lisa Boswell was my favorite person on the internet right now Dude, you know what they remind me of right now Never SNL's agates Chris Farley and Adam Sandler? Oh yes.

They're the two old people. Right. Being like, oh look Hank. Like they seem like they're in character. They don't seem like they're really being themselves. They seem like they're playing characters of like trans ladies. It does seem that way.

And they've also been compared to Beavis and Butthead. And it's funny that they're sitting in the right places on the couch to to be Beavis and Butthead. And we've talked about the idea of maybe making this into an animated series, taking their actual audio and just turning it into a cartoon with them talking. And they want you to let you know that they're old because they have a typewriter. I haven't seen a typewriter since 1987 right and they Typewriters as old as us like sitting back Yes, and how good man was a writer back in the day So how go likes to show that he she is a writer and they have to got that the old typewriter

But Lisa Boz with a blonde here on the right. Lisa's my favorite. I love her cadence. I love her speech pattern. She has impeccable timing and what was great is last night on Tookie Soup, I finally got to hear Tookie's impression of Lisa Boswell and I think he might do it better than I do I have to give I mean not a surprise He's very good with impressions, but he did a great job. What's that skull and crossbones? Oh behind her. What is that? I'm not too sure about what's in the background, right? Yeah, she sounds like she's like in an old Western like where the cowboy comes into town and just needs a room for that All right, you could stay here. We got one room. No one's been in there for 17 years but it's yours if you want

it all right so speaking of old cowboy movies it turns out Lisa was talking to or reconnected with a friend of hers from back in the day and that person had some wrong information about Lisa Boswell. It's amazing. One friend of mine, he went to high school with me. His name is Mike Shalosky and his wife, Susan. He told me, he goes, I'd heard that you died. I went, I don't think so. I don't think I

died. I was talking to my friend. I was talking to my friend. She has to give out. It's got like a little force gun to it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's southern Twang. I like that she has to. She's from South Carolina. Lives in Connecticut now but I like that she explains people that we don't know. No one could possibly know. Just be with her personal life. And she gives out their name and their spouse's name. I was talking to Michael. I was talking to Michael. He thought I died. I died. I'm not dead. I have a show on the internet. I have a typewriter.

It's to my right. I met another transgender lady. Pangs out with me. We live together. All right, so. We have flower dresses. Ray, what you wouldn't know about this show, because you've only seen these two clips so far,

is that it's a political show. Oh, it's political? It is. These two get out and they talk about how Trump is the worst person to ever exist, and if he's reelected to a second term, we'll most certainly turn into Adolf Hitler immediately. So that's kind of the basic premise of what their show is.

And they're old enough to have seen the first Hitler, so they know. Correct, yeah, they were there, correct. This is hilarious because they're apparently not a fan of the Shulies, but that's not the point of this clip Kevin Brennan's gonna love this He's gonna be all in on this one, but what I love about this

They'll be on MLC tomorrow. What did you think of Ray DeVito sniping you? Thanks for having us Kevin. Can I read the next super chat? I got this one. I got this one. All right. So what I love about this though, is they go from this very serious political conversation and the transition back into personal anecdotes is seamless. It's flawless. We could both learn something about broadcasting from Lisa Boswell. Listen, I know, I know this because I have a friend that used to fight for their army, the IDF. The Israelis are bad. They are bad.

Well, they have a secret service. It's probably the most badass group of secret operatives on the planet. But anyway, Mike Shalosky, I was telling you about him. His mama used to work with me at richway. I used to work at richway. It was the only full-time job I could get. Okay. Hugh Jesse says that's not the only seamless transition they've been through. Kyle, fair enough. Don't you love that? They're just like, yeah, the IDF. I mean, that's no fucking joke right there. But anyway, getting back to my friend who I ran into, I just wanted to let you know I used to work in this place and that's how I met this person. I like how the one transgender lady doesn't even try to do a feminine voice

at all. No, he's just talking the same way he did when he was at the saloon 15 years ago. Yeah, I'm not buying it at all and you know sometimes He doesn't put a wig on he has all different wigs But he will put on the lipstick and that's what's Just put some lipstick out like oh, that's a lady right there. Okay sure I Thought that was Carla from Cheers at first He does have a weird Bill Maher vibe going for which I think Bill would be upset with me. Okay, so this is a amazing

Lisa Anikdow. I mean, the stories that she tells. This was in 1976. 48 years ago. His mother worked a rich way with me. Her name was a rich way with me. Her name was Rita Shalosky. And she was a great woman. Great woman. And my friend Petey Keller, who I played the band with, that died, used to work with her. And the three of us used to go to lunch all together all the time.

I love that story. Lisa just goes on and on about shit that no one could possibly care about. Why are you telling a story about lunch in 1976 with people we don't know about? Like, what's the point of this? She liked turkey sandwiches. And then one time I ordered hot tea. They didn't have Diet Coke back then, but she would have really liked diet Coke. So we got a tab. All right. Um, yeah,

this is a fun, just a ISO for us. I didn't die. I didn't die. I'm still here. I think it's close. Uh, you know, I'd like to get a professional on this to get their opinion on it before we determine anything but I'll take your word for it, I suppose. Anyway, Israel sucks. So, alright, so Lisa Boswell is going down this trip down memory lane for some reason and it's funny because Helga will go off on these long stories about his past and Lisa gets annoyed with

it. But for whatever reason, like Lisa's just had a role on this one. And this is a weird thought to have right here. But I started thinking about Mike and Mike and I used to go to high school together. And you know, I figured all the people that I figured in Mike's neighborhood, I could name you probably 10 different people. And none of those people became my neighborhood, I could name you probably 10 different people. And none of those people became my friends. I would have bet the farm that they would be my friend, but they never name them.

It was what a weird thing to think. Like these people could have been my friends, but they weren't. This is decades ago. What are you talking about? Why are you bringing this up? Thing to think like these people could have been my friends, but they weren't this is Decades ago. What are you talking about? Why are you bringing this up? It's not even a cool story. It's just depressing But I like how Helga at least she went with like a name. That's appropriate to her age and she's not She's like my name is Kayla now. Well, it's Helga, but the last name is Man. I have Helga's book here. Oh, you bought a book.

Well, Adam Thoreau sent it to me, and now because of the creep off, I have to do a book report on it as my consequence. But the point is, is that Helga seems appropriate, but the last name Man might be even more appropriate. Just saying. What's in the book? What have you, what's it about?

What's the subject matter? Let me let me read all the people like she grew up with in her neighborhood. Oh, no, this is Helga. This is the the other one I Mean everyone gets depressed is the name of the first chapter Finding Helga my family confronted me yesterday. They found Helga on Facebook. One of my son's friends told him about it. They told me to take it down. I refused. They still don't understand. They talk of scandal. They talk of Bible belt retribution toward my daughter and her work as a school administrator. All right. Well, this is going to be fun. This is going to be a fun read.

Apparently, you're accidentally doxing him just reading her book. She shout outs here from Lisa. I've got another person I would like to say hello to today. Bridget Brigham Lambros. She's married to a guy named Ron Lambros. He is a preacher there in the Atlanta area. She is just the most beautiful person I've ever met. She grew up with me in my neighborhood. And-

It's like romper room for older transgender ladies. I've seen all these people that I'm just, I go, wow, I can't believe it. It's almost like Lisa just discovered classmates.com. Like she clicked a banner ad or maybe she just got on Facebook or something She's like, did you know there's people from high school that I just got touched with? Okay, cool

It's fun Try he accepted my friend request today Betty didn't Betty's a bitch But her husband's alright. Her husband, Steven though, I used to like Steven. We would get lunch. Yeah, it's too much. He works at Panera Bread. No, Ray, you're watching

this and you're thinking like, okay, this is all just fun anecdotes. They're just recounting the days of their lives. No, there's serious things going on here. There's serious issues that they're dealing with. They're not only elderly trans women, but they're also

addicted to weed and Their house is getting foreclosed on so there's a lot going on Poor Lisa's out of weed Now it looks like I got to get some more weed. Yeah, you gotta get some more weed. I gotta go. I gotta go to the bank and grovel again today because the loan officer wasn't there. So I gotta go to the bank and grovel. I need, I need money to keep the house neglecting my taxes to keep my son operational. And yeah, it's getting real right now. Now, I'm like, oh, I'm going to go to the bank and grovel again today.

I'm going to go to the a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have to do a, I'm going to have So you gotta borrow the money. You gotta borrow the money. Pay the entire note off. Yeah, I got to, I figured I'd do it on a four year term and stop giving Tommy money and

then he'll get his head out of his ass and get a job, get a better job. What's crazy to me is that, um, Helga here is 78 years old. Right. Hogue is looking for a bank loan so that she could keep her house. I don't know that. What kind of collateral do you have? What are we talking about here? Because that typewriter. Yeah. Does that help?

How long is this load period that we're talking about here? So I'm worried about this whole situation. To be honest, could be the last episode. Oh, gosh. Well well or maybe it'll be fun maybe they'll be in a tent next time they'll just be like hey so we're camping for the rest of our lives and here's our show I'd be fine but well it sounds like they got family just talking about this deadbeat Todd who's this deadbeat Todd well that's Helga's son and what happens Helga owned this

landscaping company and Helga's son worked And what happened is Helga owned this landscaping company and Helga's son worked for that company under the table for 20 years. So now that the company is dissolved, he can't find work because he can't prove he worked anywhere. So his resume sucks. That'll do it. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. Which I don't even know if that's true. I don't know. Maybe this is true. I'm just telling you and they've reported back to me. But I don't know if that's true. I don't know, maybe this is true. I'm just telling you what I've reported back to me. But I don't know if that's true because I would think that if you did something, you would just put on your resume and then they're like, can we verify this

with the state? Like, are you going to? Like, what do you mean verify with the state? Who cares? Yeah, or you just put down your reference, sure the owner of the company, which would be Helga here. Yeah. And be like, yeah, he worked for me.

He did this, this, that and a here. Yeah. And be like, yeah, he worked for me. He did this, this, that, and a third. Yeah, I mean, I'd be pretty. Honestly, right. If I could do it all over again and I know that you have an MBA and I'm proud of you. Yes. You you want

it? Well, this is what I was gonna say. If I could, if I could do it over again, I got my bachelor's degree in marketing. I spent four years at college and then I went out in the real world and got a job. I should have just waited 4 years and

then wrote down on my resume BS marketing and no one would have questioned it. No one would have called the university to find out if I went there or not. I learned nothing. It was a waste of money and I've realized now that you can lie on everyone

lies on resumes. I mean, why not? What are you doing if you're not? Worst thing that happens is they go, oh, this isn't true, and then you don't get the interview. Right. Which you probably won't get the interview anyway. Yeah, I think about it. No one actually called, at least to my knowledge, called my colleges.

I mean, they might have just had a curiosity. This guy got a fucking MBA, are you kidding me? Yeah, after I was there. They're all gathered around the speaker phone, they're like, all got a fucking MBA you kidding me Speaker fold like alright, so do you have a record of a raid to be a raven to veto? They're like yes like Shit, I lost a bat. Okay Like four years after I worked there anyways Didn't have this. He just no fucking way, this guy, got an advanced degree. He didn't have this. All right, I have one more clip for you because this is going back to their political talk

and they've been reporting a lot about the Trump trial that's been going on. And I have to give Lisa Boswell all of the credit in the world. Lisa hates Donald Trump, as I mentioned, thinks that Donald Trump is the next Hitler. They've said that once he gets elected or if he gets elected,

he's gonna round up all the brown people, put them into concentration camps, like all this crazy shit. So I wouldn't think they'd have any sympathy for Donald Trump at all, but listen to this. Change of heart? I don't, you know something, I dislike him, but that's my own personal opinion.

I dislike him, but I don't want him to go to jail because I've been to prison and I know what that feels like. Yeah, jail's no fun. That's no fun. Even the country club, even the country club, Lane County jail in Eugene, Oregon, which was, it wasn't, but that that was yeah, that was vacation Subscribe to our YouTube channel On the website and buy the books I need the money

If I knew I was gonna go to jail I'll be Suddenly, I'll be transgender. I'll go to a woman's prison instead. A lot of people do that. A lot of people do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you not at that point? You know what I do identify it's hard to get away with right. It's not as easy as it sounds obviously. Yeah. Well,

don't you think that the women's prison would be over populated overloaded if that were the case? Yeah. Well, how about I just don't go to prison? How about I just don't break the law and go to prison? No no no you'll go to prison for all those heinous crimes you committed but I think you actually could pass as a trans woman right so you got that going for you so that's good news. Yeah man then uh what I now I feel depressed what hell this situation is she gonna keep the house? This is how they keep you guessing you got to come back next week and see you know if they're still there

I feel bad right because I haven't played you since we've been covering them and they're getting all these viewers and stuff They've been a lot more upbeat. They've been very excited about it very positive. So we're doing good things They're feeling good about things. I don't know if they're gonna getting foreclosed on or not. I'm worried about it, too Don't worry. I'm also worried about it, but I just thought that was really sweet of Lisa to even think that way where it's like, you know, Donald Trump is a giant piece of garbage and I Think he's probably the worst thing possible for this country, but I don't go to jail jail sucks Okay, tell you why okay, I tell you why Lisa spent a lot of time in prison? Yeah, yeah.

Lisa, back when Lisa was Robert Boswell, went around breaking into people's homes, over 20 homes, stealing the panties out of the dressers and then jerking off with the panties. Wow. Now she talks about all this? Yes. Well, no, she does about jail. and then jerking off with the Yeah, it's pretty exciting. We try to check out two tickets to paradise A lot of good hits on there, but uh, so lisa she's my little baby You can't stop from singing Anyone who has on the bingo board go ahead and pop that one down right? Singing songs. I forgot where I was talking about but something about I'm sorry

No, what going to precess or a present for panties playing drums with any money that also puts in the slammer There's a lot going on all right speaking of great music Now I covered this, I did a special mini-sode yesterday and I covered some of the stuff that Stuttering John has been up to, but he did an episode after that last night and John starts off. He's talking all about me and He's talking about Kevin Brennan. He's very upset with Kevin Brennan now I don't know what you know about John's feelings for Kevin, but he's in love John wants Kevin's approval even more than you do It's fucking crazy. It's weird to watch a man pine over another man's approval even more than you do. It's fucking crazy. It's weird to watch a man pine over another man's approval as much as John

does with KB. It's not healthy in any single way, but John is feeling emboldened, empowered. He thinks that he's winning. I'm sure you've seen these, uh, I don't know what Twitter account it is, but someone's going through and actually calculating all the super chats that come in on all these shows and then posting. I saw that, yeah. Who's winning and who's getting the most super chats for each episode and stuff like that.

So some people are following that very closely and John's one of those people. By the way, do you give a shit? I could care less what people's numbers are. No, that's why I don't talk about it. It's amazing. You'll know what I care about when I don't care. No, that's why I don't talk about it. It's amazing. You'll know what I care about when I don't care about because if it's something I don't care about, I don't talk about it and I don't care

how much money people make in super chats. It doesn't affect me in any single way. But anyway, John's excited about it. I've been beating Kevin Brandon's numbers consecutively. Consecutively. I think he'd be, okay, so you picked up on that too. He'd be ready to beat us like, no, I think okay. So, you picked up on that too. Even Ray DeVito is like, no, I think you mean consistently dummy not consecutively but okay, let's I don't want to make it two days in a row. I

don't want to nitpick. Let's let's see what he has to say. Now, why? It's a few reasons. The first being I'm way more charismatic. I'm a way better broadcast than he is. Well, so far I'm on John's side. I don't know what you're doing. It's crazy that John thinks he's a good broadcaster. It's so weird to me because, okay, you could just watch their shows and John's like I make more money than Kevin does consecutively,

whatever that means, but all of the super chats that John reads, John has like four people make more money than Kevin does consecutively, whatever that means. But all of the super chats that John reads, John has like four people who are on his side that are super chatting him and then 30 people who just give him super chats to insult him. So the fact that John gets it there and be like, well, I mean, the reason why I'm doing better is because I'm just a better broadcaster. It's like, no, no, you just have way more haters who just want you to read their insults. I do not know that. It's pretty obvious to everyone by the way

I'm gonna get a text from John now that I've done this podcast. Why are you? Why you trash? Time you were on John's show he was holding you captive that was so ridiculous You look like a hostage on that show. He wasn't even interviewing you or having a conversation He was just yelling at you and reprimanding you See young person the time I felt bad for John though I did I did see the clip where he thought Levi was gone from the Shuli Network And he's just like grinning like he just won the the Super Bowl

Yeah, and to see the big reveal and but and like I literally felt bad. I wanted to hug him the big reveal and like I literally felt bad. I wanted to hug him. He was like, he was that that was so funny. He was like just watching your like your dad leave and never come back and hurt. I don't know. I just felt bad. I just wanted to give the guy a hug. So the thing about John, the reason why you can't feel bad for him, and I've gone through those phases as well. The reason why you can't feel bad for him is because he's got this weird personality disorder where he just changes the reality in his head and then makes it okay again. So as soon as it was revealed that that was all work and Bob was never leaving the Shulie Network, John decided, oh no, actually

there was a behind-the-scenes discussion and Bob was ready to leave and then Shulie had a double his income. He just made up all this shit that never happened and just sounded like it was fat and Then he felt better about himself again. I actually Kevin did the same thing when that all that whole thing went down. But what's crazy is that John goes on to explain the reason why KB is not good is because he just stares at the screen or his phone. Something we've documented John doing numerous times. He says, you know, Kevin can't even manage friendships, which is crazy because John goes on the list. Bob, Levi Chad, Zuma and Pat Dixon as people that Kevin had

a falling out with all people that John's gonna falling out with John can't manage friendships at all. You get no cast or hell sparks already Lang. You could go through a giant list of people with that. And he also says that Kevin Brennan is too repetitive. It's unreal to me that someone like Slytherin John could have that level of self-awareness where they don't realize that everything that they're saying Kevin Brennan's doing,

he's doing if not more so. Yeah, but you can't be in the double verse if you have self-awareness. It's never gonna, the mix is never gonna happen. You can't. Being in the double. What are you talking about? It's very possible, it's very possible to do a show and have self-awareness. It's crazy how this works. I Was nitpicking him when I said, you know, I'm

Consecutively beating Kevin instead of consistently so he probably just misspoke right? Oh wait. Hold on right after that He says this and I beat him again. I've been beating him two or three times a week consecutively now two or three times a week consecutively. So they do show seven days a week, both these losers, because that's the only thing they can do to make money. And he says I beat him two or three times a week, which means he loses four or five. And that's how he beats him consecutively. Does that make sense to you? Right? Something he doesn't understand how English works. Or math. Consistently is the word.

Yes, that would be the better word. Even though that would still be wrong. It'd still be wrong though. All right. Consistently makes more sense. Yes, makes way more sense. That's why I wrote down in my notes, he means consistently. Yes, we both picked up on that, I think.

All right, John's got this new hand sore This is this is crazy right here and his pit stains look at this Then we get to the lady K his big scam scam alert scam alert yeah, that's sweat you like that I I'm a man too, but I can afford air conditioning and antiperspirant like Jen There's ways to avoid having really gross sweaty armpits on your shell Just turn on the fucking wall unit in your shitty studio apart. So though. He's already regretting. He did that Like he's like that was not planned at all right now He's like he's like that was not planned at all right now. I'm like, but yeah Did you see that was more like oh, let me did you see the store on the palm of his hand though?

Don't worry. I got I got a slow-mo and zoomed. I got this for you check this out, buddy That was like he's jerking off a sandpaper. I don't know how you get a sore like that on your hand. How does that happen? Yeah, that's a weird place. It's not like lifting weights. I just got calluses, even though I haven't lifted weights in a while, but they never really go away, but they're like up there.

They're up there. And they're not like in the middle. It's not broken skin, right? Yeah, no, it's not from lifting weights. I can guarantee you that, Ram. I've seen John's arms. I recently saw John's arms when he was singing karaoke. It's not from from lifting weights. All right. So what's crazy about this is I did a mini-sode yesterday. I went live on YouTube. I put it out on the stream too. Hopefully people have heard it. I think it was a fun one. I did a solo.

And John was bragging about saving people's lives. And I commented on that and I said, huh, has John talked about this before? And I've been corrected. Apparently he has talked about this before. But John now is gonna go on to talk about how heroic he is and how amazing of a how heroic he is and how amazing of a person that he is.

Getting closer to Anthony and we were getting like 20, 30 feet of him. He's like, I'm going down, man. I can't make it. I'm swallowing a lot of water. This story is bullshit. Okay. I'm just going to say it. I'll explain why, but he's describing this rescue mission, him and this other

guy did to save this fat guy who was out in the ocean or a lake or something and was getting pulled underwater. First off, if you're drowning and you're swallowing water, you're not going to start saying, I'm not going to make it guys. I'm swallowing too much water. It's not going to happen. Listen, this is, I'm done for. Trust me.

I appreciate you trying to come out here and save me, don't bother. I'm definitely dying, you know what I mean? Relax and let me say my last words. Just literally, let me tell you everyone I love, everyone that I met in high school, I'll go through the names like Lisa did. Yeah, yeah, are you running this down?

John, are you running this down? I don't want you to forget who I said here, mom, dad. All right, so, but then listen to John's reaction to this, how heroic he is when this guy says, don't bother with me, I'm done for. Listen to Anthony. And we were getting like 20, 30 feet of him. He's like, I'm going down, man. I can't make it. I'm swallowing a lot of water. I'm like, you fucking hold on you motherfucker. You got kids. Yeah. And then we got to him. So I grabbed them. But I couldn't pull him up because when I he was so fucking fat. Every time I tried pulling him up the whole fucking boat with a cap size.

So wait, did he save Chad Zumach? I was paying attention for a second there. The guy's too bad. He's telling my love. I can't do this. It's only this guy would be a full station device but okay, I'll hold him here in my arms. You paddle back to shore will take turns. So, Mark would paddle until he got tired. Then Mark would take my place. And then he would hold

them and I would pound. So does Mark get any credit for saving the guy too? No, only John. John is the hero in this scenario. Mark's over here like, what about me? No, John is the hero in this scenario. We swapped. We got back to shore. And that, there was helicopters there, and that motherfucker was on his last breath. But he was alive. And the ambulance came, took him to West Glen Cove Hospital. And he spent three to four days, them pumping his stomach, getting all the salt water out of his stomach,

and he lived. Okay, again, that's not how that works. You don't think three days to pump the salt water out of someone's stomach. It's been three days, hang on, one more day. We got a little bit more salt water, we're just trying to get the rest of it. Thankfully, it's still just sitting in your stomach.

I mean, it could've caused some harm to your system, but thankfully, it's still just hanging out there. We're gonna get it. I know it's to your system, but thankfully it's still just hanging out there. We're gonna get it I know it's been 72 hours, but come on another 24 hours just to be sure and He gave me and Marco his I believe Yankee tickets behind home plate as

Thank you and Marco. We'd always goof Yankee tickets behind home plate. As a thank you and Marco, we'd always goof. We saved the fucking guy's life and all he does is give us a fucking Yankee ticket. Good joke, John. All you did was get good Yankee tickets for saving a guy's life. I guess he should have done more. Yeah. What else are you supposed to do?

Do you want my house? Here's my house. Yeah. I mean you did. You want to fuck my wife? I'll film it. What do you want me to do? I don't understand.

And by the way, the guy told him, listen, I'm done for. Don't even bother. So it's like, why does he owe you anything? He told you not to. What a fake fucking story. None of that made any sense. And then John explains two other rescues he did because he was bragging that he saved. This is the thing that I keyed in on that he's very upset with me about. I played the clip where John goes, I've saved two or three people from drowning alone, which means he saved multiple lives but two or three of them were from drowning and I made the point, if I saved two people from drowning or three people, I would know. I would never not know that I wouldn't be able to

distinguish like it's been two or three. I don't know. I'm in my 50s. Who knows? Was he a lifeguard ever? Was he actually a lifeguard? He's seen coming off the chair like David Hasselhoff He described or him being a lifeguard because Joe Biden went Howard Stern and said he said he saved six people's lives from being a lifeguard And I thought that was crazy, but John's not even a lifeguard and listen these other two Amazing drowning everywhere. He goes I'm just not going on a boat with John if this is the case. Like, I just assume I'm gonna drown.

Another time, in the wave pool at Action Park, Class Action Park, an old man was drowning. And he looked at me and he said, I'm not gonna make it. Now, I was a very good swimmer. I was, uh. Yeah, it's the same fucking scenario as the last one. The guy's just like, yeah, don't worry. I'm uh. It's the same **** scenario as the last one. The guy's just like, yeah, don't worry. I'm

I'm not going to make it. You go on without me. Have a good day at the park. Tell her there's nothing you can do for it. There's nothing you can do to help me. Very good swimmer. I was uh up to junior lifeguard to junior lifeguard and I grabbed them. Put them like I'm like, I'm a junior. I knew

and had a dream about him being a hero in that scenario. And now it's just like, yeah, I remember that. It's real. It really happened to me. That was two. And the other one was at Tobe Beach, where I noticed a friend of mine was not handling the waves and he was drowning and I went out to save him. Okay, so he knows all three specifically. And two of the three, the guy's just like, John, don't even bother. I'm not going to make it it it's not happening for me today I've done all I could I'm

giving up on life this is it just leave me in the ocean it's crazy so Nero Da Vinci says I've been a fireman for 20 years you know what I don't do brag about how many people I have saved because it's cringe yes it's not a not a good look, John, to go around bragging about saving people's lives. It's really fucking weird. But John claims he doesn't need pats on the back. And Ray, this clip I'm about to play for you. If John only sees one part of this breakdown video that we're doing, I want him to see this part because it truly demonstrates how stupid John is and the reason why the whole dabble verse exists

in the first place. I don't want awards. I don't want pats on the back. It's just in my nature. So I received so many letters, even when I was a school teacher. I've posted those, all the great, you know, thank you, Mr. Mons, you're my favorite teacher from parents and students alike. This is how dumb John is. John goes, I don't need pets on the back. I don't need awards to be sent to me. I've gotten letters from parents and students telling me how great I am, and I post them on the internet to show everyone how great I am and to prove that I've done good things for people.

John, you forwarded a fake email that came into you talking about how you changed the stutterer's life in England and how amazing it was. John decided to forward it to his ex-wife and children. Think about that. The very thing you're denying, you said you did immediately after that. I don't care about recognition. I'm not doing this for people to tell me how great I am, but I most certainly forward things that people tell me I'm great to my family and I certainly post them on Twitter so people can praise me and tell me how great I am. I mean he's got my email. He didn't forward me that email. I feel left out.

I wanted to see. Probably want to spam. Probably want to spam. Come on. John, I know you better than you know you at this point. You have to realize that. You're a fucking idiot. I actually I want to thank at vitamin underscore dealer alien melander on Twitter because he found an audio file of John talking about this heroic

rescue the first one from 2018 on his podcast listen to this shit by the way John sounds completely different this is from six years ago John sounds like a different human being the guy was going down for the count swallowed so much saltwater that when we got him to the hospital the doc said he was within within minutes of dying but Marco and I saved him and I held them and the guys are fat fuck so I'm holding him on the side of the boat and Marco's paddling and then Marco's holding him on the side of the boat we're taking turns and I'm paddling finally the helicopters came and we saved this you know motherfuckers life and turns and I'm paddling. Finally, the helicopters came and we saved this, you know, motherfuckers life. And Marco and I would laugh. We didn't

get anything out of it. The guy didn't even buy us dinner. The fucking cheap fat fuck. But we did save his life. But now Ray, is that telling it all? That both time John tells the story, he talks about what he got out of it in return. Not the fact that I just, I'm happy that I saved someone's life. The guy had kids. I'm really happy that I was heroic in that moment. You never know how you're going to respond to something like that. Instead, both times John goes, oh, we got was Yankee tickets. He didn't even buy us dinner. That's his takeaway from these events. Yeah. I, uh, I got in a car accident. I was in the ER. I didn't send anything to the doctors

that were there. I didn't know it was supposed to. Like, hey. Like. You didn't even buy them dinner, Ray? No, I don't even know the guys. You were in a horrible accident. You could have died. I don't even know the names. Yeah. And you didn't even buy these people. What about the nurses? I'm sure you got them some kind of gift. No, I didn't even. Like a rock bottom sticker or something from the podcast. Nothing? No idea who the hell they even were I think back and no idea John is such a fucking asshole And he doesn't even realize it and I brought up the fact that he got this email and everyone told him

It sounded like it was written by AI was totally fake. It was just like John. You're an inspiration I had a stutter I said I learned about you and I've been following you and you've changed my life and all this on and on and on. It's just so horse shit. But John believed it because he wants to believe that he's a great person. And he talks about how he forwarded that email to his family. Initially, I mean, I did, I did forward it to my kids and I forward a lot of those to my kids and my ex-wife because you know, I want them to know that their dad is doing, you know, is doing good things for people. I don't see why that would be a bad thing.

Go! So you do because you just brought it up. There's no one there talking to you or raising their eyebrow at you. You just recognize the fact you're just like, and why is that crazy? Just because someone sends me a nice email and I forward it to my ex-wife and say, see, I'm not that horrible person. Like, no, no judge you don't realize that that's psychotic that you have a personality disorder That's proof right there that you would do that Do you would even think to do that and then tell other people that you did that and this is like is that crazy?

I don't think so it is Yeah, like you work comedy clubs and like you'll get Sometimes emails back from the book or Billy. Hey great job. Yeah, you know, I love to have you I don't forward that to my family. You're like, I'm gonna get uh sometimes emails back from the book or be like, hey, great job. Yeah. You know, I'd love to have you back. I don't forward that to my family. Be like, hey, look. You forward it to me and I'm like, right.

Stop. I get it. You had a good set last night. It's enough. Yeah. Congrats. I've never forwarded out that I did my job like, hey, here's the forward. Like, hey, just let you know, I'm on the up and up over here. I uh. One thing I don't I don't have to worry about you doing is bragging. I never sit down and watch the rock bottom

podcast. The radio, be like, Oh, what's he going to be bragging about today? You know, that's never the case. But with Stuttering John, just the opposite, he's constantly bragging about everything. I had the whole Conroy Arnold story, my book and on Facebook, he backed the whole thing up. Nobody cares. One of the. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going

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She's the greatest, but John will just go on and on and brag about shit that John nobody gives a fuck about. So this is the big breaking news that we have to get into on the show today. John claims that producer Chris sent him an email Okay, and John is not happy with Producer Chris By the way, I've told John this before if people reach out to him assume. It's a troll. Yeah, everyone's told Just assume it's a troll everyone assume. It's not real. You know easiness of fake a email address It's the easiest thing in the world It's harder to come up with a real name on an email address because they're all taken.

But John's such a fucking idiot. So this is why people hate John and I'll play the clip and then I'll respond. So Lady K asks this producer Chris, and I want you guys, I want to find producer Chris's last name. If any of you can get me producer Chris, Lady K's producer Chris's last name, please do. Why? Because I'm going to do a deep dive on this guy. Just like I did moonhead. And just like I did everybody else.

That's how I found that of all Bob Levy's DUIs. So please, if you know producer Chris's last name, let me know. What a fucking asshole. This is John's reaction to anything. He's just like, all right, well then I want to try to ruin his life. Give me his information and I'll send it to my PI

and we'll ruin the guy's life. That's my goal right here. Yeah, do you also let your kids and wife, you know, do this too? Oh yeah, that's a good question. Did you pull this clip from the podcast and said, hey, look at this is me trying to out some guy for doing something he didn't even do. Okay. So, producer Chris isn't here today and he's dealing with some family stuff and I have to tell you and I'm

going to help you out here. John will give you some information. You want some personal information about producer Chris? I got it for you and I'm gonna help you out here John I'll give you some information you want some personal information about producer Chris I got it for you because I actually convinced producer Chris to allow me to talk about this on the show he didn't want to he's a very proud guy very private guy but Chris's daughter Brianna has breast cancer she's she's young and she has breast cancer and she actually had surgery today to remove it and I'm happy to report back that it was very successful and she's resting well in the hospital right now and so if you'd like to help producer

Chris I know people love producer Chris we all love Chris if you want to help him out I actually there is a go fund me because his daughter Brie is a server and a bartender she's gonna miss a lot of work. It's just a Thankfully, she has insurance but just to make ends meet she could definitely use some money to pay the bills and everything So I created a link to Breeze go fund me producer Chris.com Go to producer Chris.com and then John go on there. You can learn about Chris's daughter's name and her breast cancer. I know you love making cancer jokes I'm sure you'll have a field day with this I bet it'll be a laugh riot John and

Honestly when I talked to Chris last night and I said I really want to let people know about this I think people are gonna want to help you out and I was surprised to hear him say okay You know, I'll let you do that I didn't think he would want to do that and I'm glad he did but that's before I even Hurt is before actually this even happened where John is out there going. I want to ruin Chris's life like oh, okay Well, you're a piece of shit John you're garbage human and you need to know that and also whoever did what to him It wasn't producer Chris. It's obviously someone trolling him saying it's producer Chris like so that's correct. That's insane, too It's like assume it's a troll dude. Yeah, so so let's get into this because this is why

John wants to ruin Chris's life now, so I get an email today from the city of producer Chris and he goes Haha, we win You lose That Carl said your narcissism would force you to read this and it was just a scam on you to prove that you would do it. This is the big, this is the big Lady K scam. No, John, you're a fucking retard. Trust me. If you got an email from producer Chris, you'd know his last name. His email address isn't producer Chris.

Okay? The guy's a real person. He came on my show, he's my friend, he plays bass in the Isis Delps. He came on my show, we called him producer Chris. That's, you know, we have fun over here. You don't. So you don't know what the fuck is going on. That was not an email from producer Chris.

We didn't set up that email to get get you we don't give a fuck about that We react to your podcast John we react to the shows that you do We're not fucking with you in real life like you are with us Very good. That's it like that's his real email every time he logs into his bank account at Chase Bank or its producer Chris Gmail calm right? It's like Last name it's like, I wanna know producer Chris's last name it's like, it's Chris! his first since producer what about this, you don't understand, look him up, google it

you'll figure it out so this idiot goes, alright someone give me producer Chris's last name I'm gonna really dig into this guy because he sent me an email, he didn't and how are you that stupid, how do you still not know that this is not oh, in fact,

since I'm, I have this link, this is again, that vitamin dealer guy posted this. I think this is from the same episode. You're an idiot. So this is him yelling at his ex mod, Andrea Brower. And listen to what he says here. This is the same episode where John says he got an email from producer Chris and now it's he's declaring war. Andrew Brower, you're an idiot. Are you? She comes into my chat yesterday and claiming that I'm emailing her. Andrea, you're being duped. I'm not emailing you. I don't email you you are blocked You are being duped like a lot of people get duped look at the email they add If I wrote this shit so it'll be like Carlos is lazy writing no one is this stupid It's like when you watch those movies with the one-dimensional character and you go

Well, no one's all good or all evil or all this or all that. I mean, you might be a simpleton, right? So, you're maybe maybe break the rules but what I'm saying is no one would believe this as a storyline. The John goes out there gets duped by someone pretending to be producer Chris in an email and later yells at Andrew Brower for not knowing the people can obviously create email addresses that aren't them. And also, I do like, isn't he calling himself now the Duke of the dabble verse

So he's like, I'm not the Duke. This is your king Duke No, I know I know but it's always like I'm do Number to my email address. They change it, but it looks like me but you're too **** stupid to know that it's not me. Who's stupid? I suggest you either get a brain or stop and and stop the false accusations. I want nothing to

do with you. Hey, John. This is a horrible comeback but I'm going to tell it to you. I suggest you get a brain and stop the false allegations. Is this the same? This is the exact same show. Yes. This is literally just minutes in between. Right.

I can't make this. I'm telling you. It's not like that I'm creating these videos. I'm not Vince the lawyer. I'm not like changing what actually happened. This is all real. This is crazy. You need to get a brain.

Maybe I give them a little bit of a pass if it happened to be two different shows. Yeah. This is literally what they're maybe for God. Yeah, right. Or stop and stop the false accusations. I want nothing to do with you. I am not DMing you. Shut the **** up.

You're starting to irritate me. Calls. Yeah. So, uh just so you know, Jen, producer Chris, who's a good friend of mine, also wants nothing to do with you. He would never reach out to you to communicate with you directly. There's no reason for anyone at WTP to talk to you directly. We don't like you. You're an unlikable asshole. Also say, ha ha, got you. Boom. Yes, because that's how producer Chris talks. You've seen him on the part. That's clearly his dialogue. Okay, thank you for bringing that up, Ray,

because I forget that these people are so stupid, him and Chad Zumach, these people think that they're winning and they're getting over, and this is in my W column, and you know, John was saying on this show that Carl will never get a W on me. We're not trying to get Ws, we're not measuring things like that.

We're doing a fun show. We, we host a show. So the idea of the producer Chris would be like, yeah. So I emailed John last night. I don't know that we duped them like that would never even enter into the realm of possibilities. That what we do on this. We don't give a fuck. It's not the point of the show at all. Fucking moron. I don't care if you watch the show. I don't care if you know what we're doing. There was a time when you didn't. It was fine.

We had a good time. Opie doesn't ever talks about our show. We love goofing on Opie. You don't have to fucking respond. We don't give a shit. Fucking narcissistic asshole. But this is it. Oh, actually that leads probably into my next clip here.

So producer Chris emails me this and I go no dude. You lose I win. I said let me just say something. I got tons of these emails just like this text and letters that are very similar to the one you sent me and so this is the winner now. He's explaining that he's the winner. He is literally talking about an email exchange between him and a fake producer Chris that went back and forth where he had to explain that he was winning and that we were losing. It's like, John, this is how pathetic you are. None of this was happening

in real life and yet you felt the need to not only report on it and out yourself as a fucking blithering moron. And this is also at the exact same time his daughter is undergoing surgery and all this other stuff but no, his focus is emailing, haha got you. Never mind his daughter's in the hospital. Dude, it's so insane. My heart goes out to Chris and Bree and their family. Chris hasn't been himself the last month or two. It's been tough, man. It's a really hard thing to go through. And the fact that he still shows up to work every fucking day and

we still do our thing and we joke and we laugh and he's at every band practice. It's a testament to just his fortitude, his ability to persevere and push through it. And the fact that John thinks that we're petty assholes or emailing him about, we got a W on you. It fact that John thinks that we're petty assholes or emailing him about we got a W on you. It's like no, we're actually living real lives, John. We don't live in the dabble verse. We dabble in the dabble verse. We're not living in it. You're living in it. You're pathetic. It's really fucking bad. All right, I just have one

more clip because again, this guy at vitamin underscore dealer posted this he found an old clip from Stuttering John's clip because again This guy at vitamin underscore dealer posted this he found an old clip from stuttering John's old podcast and Ray, I don't know if you know about John and I have been going back and forth about guitar playing Yeah, John for some reason thinks that he's a deezer guitarist and he's not so he brags about that to me But this is crazy because this is what he was talking about before he was talking about how he's the greatest guitarist

of all time. So you know, so that's, but then we got to Jam. I thought I did a pretty good job. You did a great job, man. We put the video on Twitter, did good. Yeah, I did My Generation, I did Roadhouse Blues. Although the guy gives me this guitar, this guy Adrian, he's I think from House or whatever,

and he gives me the guitar, and his distortion box doesn't work. I haven't practiced in so long, I can't play without a distortion box. I mean, you know, all my mistakes, you'll freaking hear. So I'm trying to fucking get through it. And you know, I just told the other guy, you play the lead because there's no way it's way too clean. I can't play that way. I'm not that good.

Oh, he's not good enough to play a clean guitar correctly. He needs distortion to try to mask his mistakes on guitar. That's weird because I play clean guitar all the time with the Isotel. So if you want to go to our YouTube page, I just posted a bunch of videos that we did from last week. We were playing live at the radio station here in Rochester. But John, you've been outed. You're not very good at guitar.

You admitted it. Whoops sorry sorry. Fucking loser. Before we get out of here can I get uh so what's going on with you and um if you want to talk if you don't but I saw the video of you and Aaron going back and forth that real thing or is that just a uh steel toe? Oh we definitely talk about that so we weren't going back and forth Aaron and I I Don't know what video you saw them. So I think that's our clip. I I think I want to say was misery loves clips It's a clip of okay. I haven't seen that so I Said something that Aaron commenting on it. Okay. Okay, cool. Yeah, I haven't seen Aaron show from today So I don't know what his response was But yeah, I did a show yesterday. I went live. I don't normally go live on Tuesdays

but I decided to go on and talk about Aaron from steel tail because everyone's talking about the fact that he came out and announced that him and April are getting a divorce and Just six weeks ago. She was on the show and now six weeks later We're getting a divorce and all happened very quickly and of course And now six weeks later, we're getting a divorce and all happened very quickly. And of course the trolls and the zoo mocks and everyone was rooting for this and hoping for this and pushing for this. Why root for it? Right. So might like this is just let people's lives happen. Like if they want a divorce and it's amulet, who cares? This isn't like, yeah, they're like, it doesn't do anything for you. And yeah, no, I literally said on the show yesterday that,

you know, I played the clip where Chad is like taking the W for this. It's like, well, how is that a win for you? It doesn't, does nothing for, you're not gonna get more viewers to your show. No one cares. So my whole take on it was, and it's weird because I believe there's people out there,

and again, I haven't checked. I should have, I didn't have time today. But there's people saying that, oh, Carl's now jumped on the steel toe bandwagon and you know he was defending the guy and now he's supporting him. Listen to the show. I did. It's that's not what I did at all. You gotta listen to the content before you just respond and react to it. What I said

was I think this is a work and the reason why I say that is because I watched what happened when Suthering John and Kevin Brennan were rooting for Bob Levy to leave the Shuley network. They wanted it so badly. And they were reporting every day false information. Bob's done. He's leaving. He's not getting paid enough.

He doesn't like Shuley. And Bob took some time off because his wife was recovering from some type of procedure. And they note that like Bob's going to be off for a few days. So then everyone's speculating, oh he's definitely off the show, it's done. So Bob saw this and he went, oh what if I just like put out a tweet or two and do a show where I act like I'm fed up and I want more money. So he did that just to troll everyone and they all took the bait and they all came on and did their victory lap and like you, you were watching it when all of a sudden Bob shows up on uncle Rico and John's watching it live. He's just like, Oh, fuck I've been, I've been had. So my whole thought was why wouldn't Aaron and April, if they're still together, why wouldn't they stage a

similar type of scheme where you get everyone talking about you, all the eyeballs are on you. Everyone's taking victory laps. And then let's say next week on Monday morning There's april sitting next to erin. He's just like yeah, no, we never got a divorce. You guys are fucking retards Well, why would you fall for that? You guys just wanted it and I told melton this I I called the melton show yesterday I go I think sometimes you're flying too close to the flame on this And you can't really see what's going on the big picture on things because he is a big cheerleader for this to be happening in real life. Now Melton and I have had conversations since then. I'm probably full of shit. I'm probably

completely wrong, but that was my take on it. That's what I wanted to say. So I didn't see anyone else saying that though. Am I the only one that doesn't fall for works? Like when Joey C got his heart, I was the only one that thought he had a heart attack. It was in the hospital and was actually concerned right like I think That's not telling you I'm also not falling for this work. So when I was messaging with Patrick today, no No, I'm the one that fell for like I didn't know all the work. I Like I was like I'm the only one genuinely concerned for the guy being like the guys in the hospital I hope he's okay That's what I would have what a piece of shit. He's going to the hospital I'm like does anyone have a fucking soul to be like maybe this is serious

There's certain people when they say something I tend to believe them And there's some people who I don't know. The latest with Joey C is interesting because Joey C was raising all this money to come to hack a mania, hack a mania.com promo code WTP for 20% off your tickets, May 31st to June 2nd. And so I gave him money to go to Vegas. A lot of people did to key was promoting it. A lot of people gave Joey C money so that he could be in Vegas. And Joey C reached out to me. He's like, I want to be part of the show. I'm like, all right, gave Joey C money so that he could be in Vegas and

and Joey C reached out to me. He's like, I want to be part of the show. I'm like, alright, yeah, we'll see what we can do. So, apparently, it's been reported that Joey C has been seen in local casinos in Florida quite a bit and there's

speculation that he's given the money that he raised in order to travel to Vegas. Now, I think Joey C denies that. I don't know if it's true or not. It's fun to speculate on though. So we'll see if he's in Vegas or not. That's one of the storylines leading up to Hackamania. He texted me this morning saying he's going to Vegas.

That's his official stance that he is coming to Vegas. I haven't heard from him in a little while, but I don't know. If things go well at the roulette table tonight, people will be in Vegas. I got a 48.5% chance that I'll be in Vegas with you, Ray. I just bet on black is all I'm going to tell you. So it should be good. Yeah, it's nuts. So anyway.

I'm a fucking idiot. Anyway, I haven't caught up on everything that I did since that bonus episode. Not everyone agrees with me, obviously. I've gotten a lot of notes from people saying, I agree it's probably a work. A lot of people think that it's too elaborate for Aaron and April to pull off

because this has been going on for weeks. Right, right. I don't know. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. It'll be interesting to see what happens. The cat would have been out of the bag like two weeks ago for it to be going on for six weeks. You know what I mean?

I mean, everyone's like, okay, here comes a payoff, and now it's five months later. Now that she's coming back right around the corner. Don't be here. Well, and I did say this on the show yesterday I do believe that April left the show because it was getting to be too much I do think that she was getting hammered so much She's just like I don't need this in my life and I'm leaving but it doesn't mean they got a divorce right away It doesn't mean she just left them. It could have been that she left the show and then people were speculating, oh, I don't, Aaron's not talking about stuff with April. He's going out with his friends, dude, singing karaoke. And then

it's like it really easy for them to create this thing. Like, Hey, you know, we can just pretend that we got a divorce and everyone's going to jump all over it. And then, you know, they'll get their W or whatever. I don't know. We'll see. I mean, I was interested as anyone. I've never been interested in the steel toe morning show. And I was like, All right, what's going on? What's the latest update? And apparently, I didn't watch it again. But Aaron was talking all sorts of shit about April again on the show today. But he does it in a way where he goes, I'm not talking about anyone. I'm not

talking about myself. But then he says a bunch of shit. You're like, Well, okay, I know you're saying I get it. I wish him the best. We got to we got to play a game before you leave. We have You're like well, okay. I know you're saying I get it. I wish them the best We got to we got to play a game before you leave. We have a very special game that Cardiff made Just for you actually which is exciting. Let's see what happens if I do this Let's get Annie here on the show with us Annie welcome to the show. All right. Hello. how are you Annie? Have you guys met before? Only through Discord.

Oh, okay. Annie Ray, Ray Annie. Annie is one of our review girls, always here on Wednesdays. And she likes to play Who Said It With Us? Now, this is a special Ray DeVito, I was told. Because Cardiff double checked with me, he goes Is Ray on the show on Wednesday? Yes. Okay, here's a special version of who said it for us let's get into it

welcome to who said it the official podcast game on w ATP brought to you by patreon.com slash card of electric and the card of electric YouTube channel. Subscribe today. Okay. Carl and cohost who said it? Our first entry, who said it? There's a murderer that keeps knocking on the door of my apartment. Who said it okay some murder accused knocking the door of my apartment now our choices are they're up on the screen there Chad sumac Opie Ray DeVito Kevin Brennan sorry John Tommy T

or Tom Myers our choices based on raise reaction I'm gonna say Ray DeVito is the one who said that Ray what do you what do you who on Ray's reaction. I'm going to say Ray DeVito is the one who said that Ray, what do you what do you who do you think said that? I'm gonna say it's me. Okay, Annie. What do you think? I'm gonna also go with Ray and just assume that they're all right. Okay. Well, let's find out Curtis usually more clever than that. Let's see what he does here one two three what he does here. One, two, three. Going through my history, they could have cared less about the other guy.

All they cared about was me and like what's, and as I anyways, there's a murderer that keeps knocking on the door of my apartment building. What they're looking with you, they're looking, they already know he's a murderer. They're making sure that you're not part of this because you're just coming into the police thing going hey You know that's what they're thinking our next entry all right, so we all got a point there any I don't have producer Chris here to keep score. Could you keep score for us? It might be yes. I got it. Okay. It might be easy for us. That's it deep down

That's from a long time ago that episode, but yeah hard to find some some deep poles on this case I had a roommate that murdered his mom Then came back to the apartment Wow We'll save that story for another day. Yes, let's see what's next year Everyone should just move to wherever LeBron moves to Who said it okay? Cleveland reference, I'm gonna guess it's either Chad or Ray. I'm gonna go with Ray just because I think no, you know what?

Fuck it. I'm going with Chad. I think it's Chad Zimak. Ray, what do you think? I'm going to say Chad because when it comes to LeBron, it's like it's only rude for him if it's in Cleveland. Any other team he can go eat a dick, but LeBron also moved to Florida, which I would say that Chad did as well What do you think Annie?

Jumping I'm Chad. Yeah me too. Yeah, I think it's Tom Myers, but I'm still going with right One two three weird one. Let's find out. 123. I don't know how you guys I don't know how you guys survive in Cleveland. I just don't I don't know. I don't know how anyone I don't know how everyone just doesn't move. Everyone wants you to just move wherever LeBron goes to the whole city. Cleveland goes to LA.

I mean, your man way better judge. He's got way better judgment than you guys. Like leave Cleveland sucks. Not anymore. I'm here. I'm back. I'm back. I was shocked.

I mean, all the Cleveland jokes. And then when I went there, I was like, Cleveland's a dumb. Why? Because we didn't have a homestead in with the gym. So the answer was Kevin Brennan on that one. That was nice. I get to misdirect on all of us. Congrats, Cardiff. He has with that one. So it's kind of right.

Yeah, Cardiff gets the point on that one. Our next entry. It's always like a picture of a Simpsons character. Who said it? It's always like a picture of a simpsons character i'm gonna go with ray to veto on this and what do you think ray i'm going to say me because it sounds dumb okay and i'm sticking with ray all right let's see One, two, three. Cleveland Indians baseball player who's an Asian dude and we lost a game.

He hit a guy running the second base with the baseball game winning run scores and he's like people are saying mean shit to him on the internet and that was like a big news stories in Cleveland and it's like dude I get killed on the internet people point out. I'm Italian telling me to go kill myself That's not it just happened to be like that's what the news stories was Where I mean, it's it's honestly anyone telling and by the way these people that tell you to go kill yourself It's always not someone with their name attached to it. It's always like a picture of like a Simpson character Evil child attached to it. It's always like a picture of like a Simpson character. Evil. I like that a Simpson character, not Simpson.

Thank you for not killing yourself. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. People ask me to do it every day. I'm still getting the requests there. They're still coming. We know you that you don't have that kind of drive video. Our next entry If it's on the floor, I assume it's a dog if it's in the toilet. I Assume it's human. All right, so this goes against That what we've been seeing so far with the trend of this game, but that sounds like an opi to me all the way

I gotta guess opi. What do you think Ray? I'm gonna say since OP's never been on my podcast it uh, it could have been him. I'm gonna say it's me Okay, Ray guesses himself Annie I'm going right Who said it? one two three That was that's human shit my partner told me so of course you like One, two, three.

He probably, that's human shit my partner told me. So of course you're like, how do you even know the difference, like I can't tell the difference. I guess you could, I don't know, I couldn't tell. But anyways. One's in the toilet, the other one's on the floor. If it's on the floor, I assume it's a dog. If it's in the toilet, I assume it's a human.

But the funny thing is, your body accumulates gases. Not a bad line, right? I gotta give you that was fun. So that means I now am in second place. You guys both have three points. I have two. Cardiff has one, right? Yep. God damn it. I should have got along with the program here. got a lot with the program here. Our next entry. If you find out about his past history, are you now going to judge him? Who said it? Oh gosh.

Who knows? Oh, I'm going to say, I always go first. I always go first. Right. I try to give you guys the, uh, the advantage here of hearing my take out at first. Yeah. I'm going to go Ray. It's probably talking to Chad. What do you think right?

I'm going to say It's me and if it's me it's probably talking about when Deshaun Watson With I don't I don't need to know. I don't need to know his history. Yes Actually assaulting women. Yeah, who cares whatever no, no,, I'm saying like no I'm saying I still root for the Brown like I don't that's like if I go to Starbucks I'm not gonna get I don't need to know the history of every employee at Starbucks These are hot takes we're gonna watch this all Friday night at hackamania. Hey, what do you think I? It sounds like something Chad would say but I'm gonna go with your logic. It's right talking to Chad. Okay, here we go one

two Three if you go to Starbucks You don't know what that or you go to some coffee shop you like you don't know that guy's past No wonder you remember this exact conversation with Mark Norris Now it's making sense if you find out about his past history, are you now going to judge him? Like everything you do in life, like everywhere you go, are you going to be like, all right, I can't shop here anymore because I know it's very strange. It's a good point. Like, what's this, dudes?

What's this person's past? Like, what do I got to know? I got my own shit. I got my own life. Yeah, about it's in the legal system. Right. If he did some shitty shit It's gonna come out. He's gonna pay for it. Yeah, why am I? I agree. Why do I gotta like pick my lanes like why am I an asshole now because like yeah I'm still from Cleveland and I'm still a Browns fan. I

Marcus like yeah, no, I got it. Yeah, no, I still get it. Still get it. Gotcha. Now, he had some jokes after that. We we we we worked on that for a while. You guys are. He's very funny guy. He's a very funny guy. It's funny you said the same thing in the past and in the future like whoa, whoa, no, I'm just I'm just trying to explain this. Hold on. Yeah. It's very funny. Um I I met Mark Norman and uh I said uh hey Mark uh I know that you had a couple guys reach out to you tell tell you to come on W ATP dr Steve's oh, yeah, I love dr. Steve and Ray DeVito he goes. Oh

Really? Our final entry I don't blame him by the way, Yes. I Raid to veto murdered all those people Who said it I'm gonna go Chad on this one. I bet Chad said this what do you think right? I'm gonna say it. I said that sarcastically okay, Annie I Think John said it, but I'm still sticking with Ray, okay one two I think John said it, but I'm still sticking with Ray. Okay one two

three That's all for this time I don't think he confessed anything carniv. Yeah, that's dangerous what you're doing right now. It's dangerous Yeah, I don't know. If I said it, obviously I was saying it sarcastically. Well, obviously. That's all for this time. Now you know who said it.

My son the other day goes, Dad, he's looking at his phone and goes, Dad, I just looked to see if you're listed on their famous birthdays. He goes, you're not. And he goes, you're not? He goes, you're not, but your brother is. Oh!

Then he shows me the picture on his phone of Neil. He goes, sit, Eugene, sit. Good dog. Woof! Ouch. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. All right, well, Ray, I wanna thank you, sir, Good dog. Out. Alright, well, Ray, I want to thank you, sir, for coming on the show today. Always a blast chatting with you, looking forward to hanging out with you in Vegas in just a couple of weeks. That was a two-way tie between me and Ray, by the way.

Oh, thank you. I meant to say that. Thank you. Yeah. Congratulations to both of you for being winners. You had three points. We both had four points. Cardiff had one. Alright, congrats, guys. You played that game very well Right where can people find you if they want to find more rate of veto? rock bottom podcast on YouTube Are my channel free to veto on and use raid devi Rate of it on Twitter great that to be on Instagram and yeah, thanks for having me man a lot of fun, man Sorry, I know nothing about UFOs. I'm Ray. Uh Ray DeVito on Twitter. Ray.TV on Instagram

and uh yeah, thanks for having me man. Uh a lot of fun man. Sorry, I know nothing about UFOs. I'm not the greatest. It was it was great. It's an experiment that we had going and uh of course, Ray DeVito will be at Hackamania.

Hackamania.com. Use the promo code Ray for 20% off your tickets. Dude, I'm really looking forward to this. You play poker at all? No, I suck. All right, so you're not gonna play the poker tournament on Sunday? No, if I do anything, I might bet on sports if there's a, yeah, cause there'll probably be some playoff games going on.

Oh yeah, there'll be NBA and NHL still going on, so yeah, it's gonna be fun. All right, buddy, thank you so much for coming on the show and always appreciate you. All right, thanks for having me. I'll see you guys later. Later. And it's just you and me wow got real quiet. Oh Hi, god damn as soon as he came out. I go dude. What's going on in the background so loud?

He's like oh, I got this generator running. I'm like you have a generator running was there a tornado with what's going on right now? I almost said why doesn't he have a noise gate well of course he doesn, he doesn't know what that is. Never mind He wouldn't also he's using a sure 58 which You don't have to be right up on top of breathe. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is Annie here we are Ending the show together Where people find what you're up to? What are you up to these days Annie? Well soon We're gonna be coming back with what is this game on my channel which you can find on youtube.com slash at w i t g s but we are working on something else and it's coming out on friday on the yo remember the 90s channel so you can check that out if you're not subscribed go ahead and look over there the premiere is coming out fr. Nice. The return of yo remember the 90s because everyone was clamoring for it.

Like how is this that out of a wire? I'm excited to see it come back to life and hopefully it's not just like a one-off and we can you to do something with the channel. Very good. People should definitely check that out. Please. Oh, you know what? Let me just say real quick again. I'll just bring it up here producer Chris comm is where you can go to get redirected to his daughters go fund me if anyone wants to donate to that Breeze gonna be great

like I said procedure today went well everything's looking good she's still got a battle in front of her so if anyone wants to help donate to that, we definitely appreciate it producer Chris comm is where you want to go and thanks to Chris for allowing us to to comment on that and Please join us again next time. It might be the episode we find out once for all who are these podcasts sleep well every bone every bone in the morning radio Great show good job. Everybody great job everyone Annie. Do we have any new reviews? He'd like to read for us No, there is no new reviews, okay, and I'm running out of the old ones. So I'm just gonna read one Okay, do you have the spreadsheet that Coleman does for us? Yes. Every time I also bring in a review I have a note of everyone I've also

ever brought in so I try not to bring in repeat ones that I've brought in. Now I don't have a list of everyone else's. I'm not that anal about it. No worries. This week I have one from Johnny Red One from 11 17 22. I took such a big shit yesterday I had to break it up into pieces with the toilet brush just to get it down This is pretty much how I listen to this show in shitty little bits Very good. It's definitely sounds like a five-star Reveal that is a five-star never taking a shit that big that's impressive Did you need that one of those shit ones a shit wand?

Yeah, I was into I was on the dick show with Vinnie Paul, you know, yeah Yeah, and dick was talking about the the way obese people Wipe their butts with those things That's crazy. If I ever get that fat, I'm just gonna kill myself. Okay. Well, don't do that. Just stop shitting. No, no. I just don't want to save everyone. If you can't like your own button, you got to hold it. That's the rule. I'll accomplish the best of both worlds then. Oh, stop it. Annie. Thank you for not killing yourself. We appreciate you.

No, no, no. Lisa Boswell World Order. LBWO. Oh, I love Lisa so much. She is a treat. She's fantastic. Yeah. Hey, animal Kelly here, Carl. I gotta say say Like everybody else is saying great week crazy stuff Fantastic and with you you're a punk rocker in your New York So I get like not one of the cops but everybody who was there that song drunk driving God, man. I'm just the whole time. I heard that just the peace they would exist on the cherry on top

time I heard that just the peace, they would exist on the cherry on top women. Fucking great if he got arrested and it was a guy it got, it barely got a mention in the news. And then just salivating at the thought of the body cam footage weeks later and the mug shot just, Oh, I feel like you're fucking blew it. Everything else was good. But I mean, you're kind of having one of those weird revenge fantasies that we make fun of John for having. I want to point that out. But I hear what you're saying the body cam footage would be fun to watch. But I feel like we all blew it especially with thinking he's going to be dead within the fucking year. Oh, and a shout out to a shout out to Annie. I know, I noticed your little reference with, with a anime in the last episode. So nobody reacted. I noticed I could have little reference with with anime in the last episode

So nobody reacted I noticed I could have been do a spin for me good looking I want to see what kind of junks in the trunk Wow animal Kelly coming on strong right now Interesting interesting and his face is turning red Thank You animal Kelly. She doesn't want to make of that Am I the only one that could get Sam Kinnison out of my head with the frog guy? Watch live in New York his best album Fuck you. All right. So yeah, we did the Online advice shows come.

Yeah. Toad's fantastic. Yeah. It took me. It took me like a total of 15 seconds of watching them. Like, oh, I get it. Yeah, me too. Me too.

I, I, and the show starts off so obnoxious and I'm like, Oh, this is just annoying. And then as soon as it kicked in and he started calling people out, okay, this is very funny. This is a good show. One of those rare occasions where I go, no, I kind of enjoy this. So obviously, we pointed out not me, but we as a collective pointed out they did sound like Sam Kinnison. Wait, Tukey just mentioned it. You can delete that. Sorry. Don't call me back.

No, that's okay. I like that you react before you get to the segment and call into the show and. No, that's okay. I like that you react before you even get to the segment and call into the show and tell us that we're dumb. I think that's fun. That's why I played it. I'm in practice, fuck you, I'm coming to Vegas. Promo code BPG for 20% off. That's not true.

There's no promo code BPG, but that's good news. Baybred this guy will be there in Vegas. Hackamania, baby. Hackamania.com. Check out what's going on there. There's so much going on there. I feel like, I don't know if we can cram all of this into one weekend, but we're going to.

It's gonna happen. Hey, what's up, Carl? I just wanted to let you know from your, I think at first, maybe fourth Mexican listener, that yes, I spoke to the coalition and yeah, as the Mexicans, we embrace Lisa and Helga. Fuck yeah, we're on board. We are now following them.

So all of them in, let's do it. Let's go. Thanks for bringing them up to our standard. Adelaide, buddy. All right. Thank you. I'm glad to hear that everyone then their community is embracing these two. They love them. Hey Carl, this is a big business guy that watches Star Trek. Two episodes ago or a few episodes ago, Tommy was talking about on the, on the game that car makes he's talking about Star Trek or the guy was talking about it and He mentioned that Uhura the black woman on Star Trek was like the secretary to answer phones

She was chief communication officer, but also the interracial kiss I really hate it when people bring that up. They're like, oh my god, it's an interracial kid the first interracial kiss in the episode, there was a race of ESP aliens that were making Kirk and her a kiss against their will. So it was actually the first interracial sexual assault on TV. So don't call me back. Dude, I didn't know that everyone talks about how groundbreaking that was. But that was actually against their will. They kissed on the show. I didn't know that. I also like the area formative. I also like the idea that there

was a person on the Starship Enterprise whose job was pretty much starting John's job on the Howard Stern show just answering the phone. It's your aunt. Do you want to take it? All right, he'll call you back. I'm sorry. We Show just answering the phones. It's your aunt. Do you want to take it? All right, he'll call you back. I'm sorry. We're in the middle of some space mission or something. I don't know.

There's an Asian guy here. It's crazy. I'll get, he'll get back to you. Don't worry. It's weird. Hey Carl, it's the Cal photographer. I also play trombone because that's what cool kids do. Me and Tuki, cool kids on the block.

You're guitar. Just kidding. Thanks, copy photographer. Hey, Judy, why do you think stuttering john melendez no longer performs his comedy act? He's not. Anything else? Nobody.

Yeah, he's been outflanked. Anything else? Nobody wants him. Yeah, he's been outflanked. Oh, rock and roll. Okay, thank you very much for that, Gary. Sounds like just a natural conversation the two of them are having in the kitchen. I like to-

That last point she made was the most accurate. Nobody wants him? Yeah, he's not funny. No, the dead silence. Oh, fair enough. Hey, this is that guy the guy in the no-name anyway this one's a shout out to Gary hey Gary and Sam fans from San Francisco San Diego anyway San Diego my point being Gary don't transition just because Lisa and health are getting all the attention okay we love you the

way you are please do not transition it's? We love you the way you are. Please do not transition. It's not right for you. I know you're not getting the same attention that these other old folks are getting, but guess what? There's a lot of old folks in the Dappleverse, and you're one of our favorites. All right, smell you later, shaka-con.

All right, Gary, that's right. You be you. We love you for who you are, Gary. I don't know what you're planning on doing, but you're good. Hey, Heidi. Hey, Carl. It's Jeremy again. I'm excited now that there might be a couple of new additions to the aforementioned WHTP house band, Robert Breed and the HIV. It sounds like Helga and Lisa would be wonderful additions. And yes, I'd like you to take this opportunity to pontificate as to who the other members of the band would be. Thank you. Fuck you.

What's my day? Yes, we were talking about it'd be a funny band name, Robert Reed and the HIVs. We were doing that Brady bunch show. So okay, so we got Helga and Lisa are both musicians. That's great. They're in the band myself With two bass players Andy and producer Chris Do you play an instrument Annie? Any musical talent? No, he's saying no talent. No, okay. Well, Jenny jingles can sing you could be a dancer okay, I bet vehicle go to head sir out there and All right. I think this is coming around Kyle photographer this is coming around. Kyle the photographer plays trombone, Tukey plays trombone. We got a whole horn section there, that's good.

Alright, this is gonna be a fun band I think we're putting together. Maybe at DabbleCon 2, August 16th and 17th. We'll perform there. Alright, last one. Hey Carl, I know everyone keeps saying they cover Sutter and John's music, which I think is kind of stupid if you do the entire album, it's a waste of time, but why don't you just cover Talk My Way Out of It and then put it online as a cover and sell it and make more money off John's music than John will ever make?

I don't know, keep your thoughts. All right, bye. I love that idea. than John will ever make. I don't know, keep your thought. All right, bye. I love that idea. The only problem is because the isotopes have recorded cover signs before. The only way to get those on the streaming services and make money off of it

is you have to credit the composer and the composer makes all the money off of it. They have the rights to it. So we do it because we wanna get the streams. People can check out the music and play it. We don't get any money from it. We're not a big deal. We don't make a ton of money people streaming our music Anyway, be nice if we did the isotopes. I don't where we stream music check it out buzz Meyers be use easy

I'm a R. Yes, our new EP is out now three P's out there for everyone. But yeah, that's a fun fun idea though I do like the idea of us recreating jazz music and making the money from it That would be a good troll a better troll than sending John an email saying that we're winning or whatever the fuck he said before. Yeah, but one is way easier. That's true. Sending an email is a lot. Creating an email address and sending it to him is way easier. And one works pretty easily too. So people in the chat were speculating that maybe Vince the lawyers the one who sent that email To John and who knows I I couldn't possibly tell you that but I will tell you sound like something Vince would do. Oh, no No, I will tell you this though

Vince actually sent me a text today and he's he's honing in on the YouTube terms of service and listen to what YouTube says is an example of harassment and this I had to look this up because Vince is always lying. So he said this to me and I'm like, I don't know about that. So I looked up and I found it online. This is true. It says and it just says here are some examples of the first bullet point under examples of harassment

that's not allowed according to YouTube's terms of service. Repeatedly showing pictures of someone and then making statements like, look at this creature's teeth, they're so disgusting, with similar commentary targeting intrinsic attributes throughout the video. And I was like, is that word for word? Word for word. Look at this creature's teeth. They're so disgusting. I was like, holy shit, how many times is John made fun of my teeth?

I think it's against the terms of service. I could probably strike. I think he said that sentence or he's called you a creature. Isn't that crazy? And I was thinking, like, why would you two put this as an example? Probably King Cobra, JFS, if I had to guess. But still, that's uh hilarious that that was the first example they come up with for harassment. So yeah I might have to maybe I'll get

my team on that. We'll find all the times that John made fun of my teeth then we'll get him in trouble with YouTube. We're not going to do that. We don't care. John talk about my teeth all you want. You're not funny. You're a loser. No one cares. You make no you have no effect on anything I do. And John, just remember this. Nobody cares. All right, Annie. Thanks so much for hopping on and reading that. Thank you, Carl. Yes. Always good to see you. And let's get the fuck out of here Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr That was really great! Man, that was a good episode. That was a good episode. I enjoyed that. Go fuck yourselves. Have a good week. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr