Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep579 - Hey Todd Dot Com

Episode Date: December 15, 2024

This week we’re talking about Todd Pettengil from the famous Scott and Todd Show on WPLJ 95.5 in NYC. We start with Todd’s last day on the radio and the embarrassingly tearful goodbyes. Then we ch...eck in on his short-lived online show that is no longer behind the paywall.  Drew Lane and Brandon McAfee from the Drew Lane Show join us (because we’re using their studio) to discuss Howse the Producer’s totally natural laugh at everything Todd says. Then we visit the Ron and Ron Show featuring Ron Bennington and the time they had a drunk and belligerent Don Johnson on their show. Mike Calta addressed our review of his show with his wife and Amanda is not happy that she’s being criticized. It’s because she knows that she has zero knowledge of Wu-Tang Clan and she’s a poseur. Stuttering John had a cop come to his house to check on the cats and so now he’s leaving the Dabbleverse forever.  Drew Lane on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheDrewLaneShow Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Visit https://www.magicmind.co/WATPSHOW20 and use the code WATPSHOW20 for 20% off your order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:50 it. The show hosted by Todd Pettengill, Amanda Scott, his daughter and house the producer. But you know what? Before we get into that, I want to start with his last day on radio. Oh great. I think that's a good place to start. Cause then we can kind of match that energy with what happens on the show when he moves to Texas and does a show. So if you don't know, Todd was part of Scott and Todd, Scott Shannon, a radio legend who just retired like two years ago. Yeah. Finally retired in the seventies and they had this show that was number one in New York for like boring people some demo. I'm not sure soccer moms soccer moms People who have no taste in anything
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's it's wild but there is a I used to think that when people found a certain show whether it's you know Opie and Anthony or Howard Stern or whatever that everyone would love that show But there are there's that giant lump of people that really want something very simple Yes, and they tapped into that so well they did and so Scott and Todd did this show I think it was on the hit station if I'm not mistaken WPLJ yeah, yeah CHR right okay, so They were the the morning drive for that and just bubble gum. And I only know
Starting point is 00:05:06 about it. I didn't live in New York. I only know about it because they became a target of jocktober every single year. All day had a field day with these two guys, especially because we'll Scott Shannon was just out of it at that point. He was pretty much relegated. He would say like one sentence an hour. And even then they'd be giving him a look like that's too much scat. But he did start the show and he brought Todd in, I think he was there from 91 to 90 or 2004. And then I think he brought Todd in. Yes. Maybe it was before that. And then they were Scott and Todd. And then Todd runs Scott out the door and says, I don't need this, this old man. You know, he's, he's out of it. So I, I need this on my own. He's got great ratings and Todd pushed Scott out and then their ratings plummeted
Starting point is 00:05:51 because everyone was under the impression that this is Todd show. He does all the crank calls. He does all the parodies. All we need is Todd Pettengill. And it turns out that the people who are listening for some reason, love Scott Shannon. They're loyal to Scott. Scott went to WCBS and was number one. Yes. And a month after the Scott and Todd show ended, he then called into Opie and Anthony and was completely vindicated, which was an amazing story arc for Scott Shannon. But whatever Scott Shannon, good on him. We got to talk about Todd because Todd went on with his partner, Jade, Todd and Jade show. It started with just Todd.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Jade was added, I assume, because things weren't going so well. Right. He needs someone to bounce all his wacky ideas off. And that got ugly too. He talks about it in the final show, how, yeah, we had our bubba, everything was cool and we decided to be friends. But it sounds like it was ugly when they pushed Jade onto him. Well, a lot of ugliness took place. Well, on May 31st, 2019, they did their final show
Starting point is 00:06:50 and we have some clips from their final break that Drew grabbed for us. Yes. And this is, okay, we had, our show had great success before we were fired. We were still doing very well when we were fired. and honestly, no one cried on the last day. Oh, you guys were all blubbering retards. No, no one cried. How important you are to the city of Detroit. Now they're all going to miss you. It was a sad day, but you know, everybody felt pretty good about it. Actually. I mean, it, it was surprising, but nonetheless, and by the and by the way the show replaced us has has done fine so it wasn't the end of the world and uh... you know we've moved on i did a shitty radio show and then i'm started a podcast but
Starting point is 00:07:34 these people all are just completely torn up over this and they they seem to think everyone should be do you want to start with uh... christine they're they're kinda giving their final synopsis or just, yeah, their last word. One by one, Todd lets the different players on the show come in and have their final words and then Todd's going to wrap things up. But it starts with Christina gets off to a rough start. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I was at the Airbnb today. My brother's here with us. He's in studio and he could hear me from the other room cracking up laughing And I think Christine is ready I am so I know before I came here when I thought about 955 I thought about summers by the pool and it's just blasting in the backyard when I was a little girl in here Scott and Todd and race Taylor and Joey Kramer and all these legends and I never thought that I would be here that I would start with at a legendary station like 95 5 and for you guys to let me in and join this
Starting point is 00:08:37 Join the show and you all have like these personalities like Annie like Your genuine heart you you have this heart of gold and it rubs off on people And Todd you have this sense of humor like you've made me laugh every single day in my life Did make the listeners laugh, unfortunately Anyone else remember mike schmidt? I was just a kid with two bad knees. I think I was just a kid with two bad knees. You would think that she's like a hall of fame baseball player with that speech. John Elway's retirement was very similar.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's like, yeah, you were just on a radio show. Just a snot fast. Then we move on to monk who I believe was the van driver. He was the intern. Yeah. And he moved up. He moved up because Todd said, kid, you got it. This was a big deal for Mike. I don't know much about New York.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't get around much. I'll just, I'll intern there. I'll have fun for spring semester. And next thing you know, I get hired as an intern, then I become a promotion person. And then Todd, for some reason, saw me at an event in right play land and I was I was close like a big goofball and Todd said, you know you're pretty good. I don't think I've ever seen you cry, Monk. It's kind of freaking me out. I can't get over there.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But then I ended up with Scott and Todd, and I learned so much from them. Todd became like a big brother to me, and always looked after me. And there were so many years and so many trials and tribulations here, and I could have been out so many times. But Todd always, he was at my back. If I was on this show, I'd be like, do you want to stop embarrassing yourself? Should we move on? These people are just letting him go. This is terrible. I was on the show like do you want to stop embarrassing yourself should we move on? Yeah God, I sound like a jerk off. Yeah. It's worse than that, actually. I mean, I wasn't going to say that, because you're already crying. But yeah. I can't imagine my life without Teresa.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And I kind of, she's like the most amazing and kind person I've ever met for someone to put up with someone like me for so long. She does deserve a medal. Yeah, it's a round of applause for Teresa. Yeah, Teresa, we love you. Shut up, baby. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Who cries like that? Oh, man. So embarrassing. This. Wow. Who cries like that? Oh man. It's so embarrassing. This show. It sounds like a muppet. Is this a cult? I mean it's really strange.
Starting point is 00:11:14 No, you know what I think it is? And I think there's going to be a tip about this in this next clip, but I think these are all unemployable rejects who are realizing they're never going to get another gig like this. I forget, because why else get another gig like this. Why else would you stop like this? Well, there are a lot of, there's a lot of Todd ass kissing. I think maybe the thing Todd is going to help them get a job down the road. Cause Todd, the all powerful Todd who failed miserably, by the way, I mean, this, this thing is done. Scott beat them starting over WCBS, which is great. And so Annie is the next one up and
Starting point is 00:11:50 This is sad, you know, my husband I was like, I feel like I finally finally made it. I'm at PLJ We're doing great. We bought a house in January and we were hoping to tell you guys we were having a second baby But after the announcement of the station being sold, we lost the baby at 10 weeks And then Cooper died four days later, and I said my life is like Crumbling in front of me and I got the news about my sister in remission from cancer. I said this is what life is all about and this is the opportunity to work with you guys and reach people and we take all of that stuff we're going through in our personal life and we we bury it down inside and we come in and we laugh we laugh we make fun of each other and we just have fun because it's our job to forget all the crap in our life
Starting point is 00:12:25 and make you smile. Yeah! So I understand this woman had a rough year. We bought a house in January. And the next week, they're like, yeah, we're going to let this show go in six months. Did they give them six month notice? They didn't have significant time.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And they couldn't say anything about it? No. That sucks. But that's why I understand why they're crying their eyes out. They've known all this time They should have already cried if they were gonna cry, but doesn't she suggest that the announcement made her miscarry? She was so upset. Is that possible? I mean, it seems like she's trying to get somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm out of here. Wow. All right. So let's go over to Todd. Now he's going to say his piece and you wrote your note to me when you said the timestamp, get ready to laugh. I want to, I want to thank all of you guys I
Starting point is 00:13:30 didn't think you know, there's been a lot of changes and I Took a lot of Personal blame. Yeah for what happened show something you I got to the radio station and tried to build a new team to move forward and couldn't have had a better one. I think you could have. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I'm sorry. I apologize. I don't When jade came in Obviously, it was an adjustment and we yeah, you know two strong willed personalities and We just put all that aside and became friends Jades like we did back to you and I appreciate The things you brought out of me
Starting point is 00:14:26 Because I was you know bird guarded person Back when he had ratings, yeah, I'm sorry What is going on take all the time you need? Yeah, we had a nickel every time Todd cried, we'd have a nickel. No, we did get Todd to cry one time, remember, on his birthday. Okay, so we'd have 10 cents. We'd have 10 cents. Wait, fuck. I didn't cry on his birthday?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah, what is that all about? It's my birthday! No one remembered! You know what he said, I apologize? No one said, oh no, Todd, it's not your fault! Yeah, you notice that? He seems like he's full of regret, like he knows he fucked this all up. Oh yeah. For all the greatness and our job is to make you laugh. The ratings tanked. Yes. They sure
Starting point is 00:15:14 did. They're so self-important about this and yet it didn't work. You'd think they were talking about, you know, a show that was number one for 20 years, right? Like a retirement kind of thing. Not a you're fired. No one's listening anymore. Yeah. All right. Well, this is Todd's tribute to Annie. I think he's most concerned about any finding another gig. If anybody in radio was listening and we'll obviously replay this and make fun of me and that's okay. I'll hire her for years to come. You know know she's amazing and Just I always knew just the person you were and I knew you immediately and
Starting point is 00:15:57 Really want to thank you for all that you've done to help the show and All that you sacrifice personally in the commuting, which was, you're, you're one of a kind and thank you for that. You can skip over me. That's all right. Drew, I want you to thank me for commuting. Oh, I'm sorry, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I didn't know you were going to totally your car and have a seizure. He was the other order, but that would be worse. You chose to move that far away. But yeah. So yeah. Annie is like obviously unemployable and he feels bad. And he's like, yeah, go buy a house. That's a great idea. Start a family. Have another kid. Yeah, definitely. Oh shit. We're fired. I'm sorry. I probably shouldn't give me that. You know, I don't think as, as close as this group is, I mean, they sound like a family. Don't they? I don't think any of them have ever worked together since because Todd has a new crew
Starting point is 00:16:54 on his podcast. Right. So that's, that's weird. Well, he also moved to Texas. He got as far away from these people as possible. Probably part of it, but let's talk about monk the intern who drives around the van Sorry, how important he is to the show get a couple of Kleenex boxes for this one. I knew right away to that monk was
Starting point is 00:17:16 somebody That drove the van was gonna be a star So much behind the scenes and never got credit for Barely half of what he did whose fault is that? That's a great point and secondly like what do you not get credit for driving the other interns to the to the bar Hand hand out shots? What are you talking about? Picking up chicks when he gave out the t-shirts, passing out stickers.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right. All right. So finally Todd gathers himself after he goes through and he tells everyone how great they are and he's crying about it. And then he realizes that, Oh, I'm not actually that upset when I talk about my own family. I love you and I'll always do whatever I can for you. My family, obviously my wife Carrie and my daughters Amanda and Haley who just always supported me and really took the brunt of just always supported me and really took the brunt of, you know, the sacrifices that we make to do a show like this where you, you know, you don't have a personal life. You,
Starting point is 00:18:32 you sacrifice that and they always understood that. Why is he not crying? He's not crying. He stopped crying. But also, can I just translate what he just said? Yeah. He was also a horrible father and husband. Right. He wasn't around at all. So he didn't get along with his co-workers. His family doesn't like him
Starting point is 00:18:50 I don't know. I just I found that so odd that he just I mean the breathing he can it takes him two seconds between Every thought and word he's crying so hard and then all of a sudden he gets his family and he gathers himself Yeah, anyway my kids my wife. Thanks you guys You gave up everything. You're trying to cry. I'm sad. All right, one more clip out here from Todd's final thoughts. I am humbled to have been able to be part of your lives for almost 29 years.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I need that drop. There's no way I can ever repay you for taking me into your lives. But I hope that along the way I've given you some laughter, some genuine fun moments, and I thank you very much. The self-importance. Yeah. It kind of takes me back to the original when they started the show and they had that big, just ridiculous intro about the hallowed halls and the ghosts that walk the superstars of WPLJ, and that somewhere there's a woman with a six-year-old who's been up all night sick, and it's our job to give them something to laugh at.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And here he seems to be sort of saying, I hope we gave you that. It's really a critical component of their life. The Todd show. He needs one last pat on the back. Guys, can you also remind everyone that I'm funny and everyone laughs at my jokes and their lives are not good? He goes, I was in these people's lives for 29 years. Well, actually, no, you were for about like 26.
Starting point is 00:20:41 There are other people in their lives. That's why you're no longer on the radio. But yeah, the importance is putting on a stupid morning show that people blindly put on during their commute to soccer practice. I don't think it's that kind of a show too. There are shows, you know, Howard Stern, for example, that people live for. I mean, they love it. It gets them through everything and they'll tell you that, Oh, I, it was so great when I was going through cancer and my parents are dying or whatever. I don't think this is that kind of a show. No, at all. No, because it's a top 40. They're, they're just, it's kind of mindless entertainment stuff. And then there's
Starting point is 00:21:15 a prank phone call and then on the thirties, right? Every hour at 30 after I didn't realize it was every hour. They run two new ones every day. And then they run the two from the day before on the other thirties. Yeah. And of course every prank phone call that with Todd creation, by the way. No, it was like some commercial for gum or something that they took it from. I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So all right. So very sad, tearful, goodbyes in 2019, but then Todd takes his show to the internet and he's so stupid about transitioning from radio to digital. He calls the show, Hey Todd.com. That's the name of the show, the website. Yeah. That seems kind of a behind the times to say the least. For sure. So I want to start off this. I checked out an episode April 1st of 2020. So this is how April Fool's Day and this producer house that's on the show, man, welcome to April the first April Fool's Day. We're the biggest fools on the planet.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We have a list. April Fool's Day. Who are the biggest fools? He thinks he's, he thinks he's moving the radio show to pipe. I mean, it sounds like a radio show. Yeah. He's surrounding himself with dummies who get way too excited about nothing. I mean, this guy's job, it's only an hour long show. He has to be exhausted after this. He gets home from work. He's like, look at, I've been living laughing at Todd's nonsense for 60 minutes. I just need three or four hours by myself. Can we watch Schindler's List? I just need a break. Do you know where house came from?
Starting point is 00:23:18 By the way, I don't know. I have no idea. Okay. Cause he wasn't part of the previous show. No, he just a guy with free time. I guess so. Cause they call him the producer, but all his job is only just there to laugh at whatever Todd saying. Cause there's another guy who you never see who's actually running the show. Okay. So Todd does crack him up. I mean, this guy thinks Todd's the funniest person on the planet. He's like, why is Dave Chappelle getting all this money from Netflix? Why isn't Todd Pettengill signing these deals? And this behind a paywall from day one, correct? Yes. And you know how much it cost a month? Was it 10 bucks?
Starting point is 00:23:52 9.95 because he was on 99.5. Why would you want to remind people of your failure? No, it was 95.5. Was it 95.50? One of those. 95.5. Yeah, 95.5. So yeah, cause he just assumed that all these people who were listening to him in New York were going to be like, Oh, I need Todd in the morning. Not whatever replaces Todd on that same station. I was listening to I need Todd. It wasn't the case, but there's no way to listen to him without paying 95. So I have to believe the subscriber level was incredibly low. It definitely was low because he quit after just a little while and blamed COVID. He's
Starting point is 00:24:30 like, well, no one's listening to shows or watching video with COVID. He's like, no, just the opposite. That's not what he was doing. And not only that, the producer house that we're all falling in love with because he's great. He didn't even show up on the last day. He bailed. He just bailed. Oh, that's right. I saw the last show. Yes. He did he bailed Scott ragged him too. He did he was pissed Well, I'll have to revisit that at some point so for For whatever reason they're using this fisheye lens So I think it's to make the loop place look bigger
Starting point is 00:25:02 Oh, then it actually is when they go around and they show everybody. So he's going to introduce his two co-hosts here. Say hello to Amanda shot. Give it up for house. The producer, you know, I just realized who you remind me of when you do the sign on Charles Nelson Riley. Charles Nelson. Now that is a, an older Charles Nelson. Right. It's like for Paul Lind, somebody from the square. That's a ridiculously old reference. What's also not accurate in any single way. How's it just also not accurate in any single way. How's it just being Charles Nelson Riley is like this. Everyone confuses those two people. They're very different people. Yeah. It was just Riley and Paul went very different. I
Starting point is 00:25:54 know they're on game shows. I know they were gay, but their personalities are very different. As a, a match game aficionado. I took offense to that. They're also very different from house. Well, yeah, no, I know it's a horrible impression. None of it made any sense. But of course, I was cracking. I was like, Oh, you got my number. God damn you, Todd. I have to tell you though, I love that signature. Hi God. I thought it could be more higher energy. I would have been like, bring it up a little bit. Come on. Let's have some fun here today. I just noticed a tagline to real people, real funny under hate Todd. Yes. Yes. That was, that was the tagline for this show. Now the problem with the real funny part, drew, you'll
Starting point is 00:26:32 remember this. I was listening to your show every day, April 1st, 2020. You know, it was going on at this time. Oh man. I remember. Oh boy. That was COVID time. We had lockdowns. We had social distancing. We didn't know what was going on. Everyone's got to stay in the house. We were mad at people if they're outside. And so Todd's having a hard time figuring out what he should do. They're saying now the next two weeks are going to be the absolute worst. So we have to brace ourselves for that. It's very difficult for me to find a tone that I think is what you want. I'm not sure. Do we need to talk more about it?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Do we need to talk less about it? Do we need to take? I don't know. It's one of those things that's very difficult. I like to think that this can be a distraction. Sort of like poor Amanda sneezing in coffins. You would think that the corona started over there in that area. You see that area over there? On the far side of the room, you would think corona was born over there. That's gross.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I don't think the tone is having the average white band in the background. Probably not. What I think. What I also like to the tone is having the average white band in the background Well, I also like that effect he goes what do you guys want me to do it reminds me of crusty in that episode We're just like just tell me what you want me to do. It's like You tell us you make it happen. He's not sure Because he's a wacky morning guy was trying to connect. He's trying he's trying to get feedback to know How he should go forward with this. And I understand that was a difficult time, but I think he probably should have figured that out before he ran his show and yeah, and mentioned he has no idea what to do. And
Starting point is 00:28:13 you know, Amanda's over there sneezing a lot. I bet she has coronavirus by the way, they're protecting 2 million will die in the United States before the years up. Hey, let's play a game. He doesn't know what to do with them. They do play a lot of, they play a lot of games on the show. They do. We'll get into that. There's something very funny that happened on this episode, but before we go there, they're talking about the importance of social distancing and they're like mad at people who are going outside at this time Oh, and so they give us a meme that will help us all figure out the next how to live our lives You know, I mean fish keep these numbers down. Nobody wants to see this get worse
Starting point is 00:28:57 I saw my favorite meme yesterday. Oh boy, and this really puts it in perspective Do you want to be the one responsible for killing Betty White? That was like the greatest meme Exactly who wants to be the one to bring the corona to Betty White on me Does Betty White hang around a lot of complete strangers? What are the girls who started up's dead. God damn it. I just felt like I needed some supplies. Yeah, but he's having a party.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It's over to the public. I screwed up. I didn't feel well and sniffle and I had no idea. There was a weird time to be alive and bringing me back to this time in this episode. I was like, Oh yeah, this all sucked a lot. And I didn't pull a lot of clips from them talking about what was going on with the pandemic. We lived through it. We don't want to revisit that.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But it was just wild how they were just scolding people. This was the time when they were bringing the big medical ship to New York City, to the harbor. And people were out there videotaping it and photographing it. They're like, what are they doing? How dare they? How dare they be outside watching this? They should be in their homes.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Everyone needs to be in their home right now. I was like, I forgot how crazy this guy thought that was normal Yeah, and then they got a listener to call in the show listener jumped in and was a pharmacist and they were like Oh god, you are the front line work The hero is working at Kroger and Home Depot Let's have a second for them and their families. They talked about all of that. So I kind of skipped through that because that wasn't very fun. But then they play the game, beat the house. And you know, it's going to be fun
Starting point is 00:30:35 when you got a fun intro. I know. Ladies and gentlemen, it's beat the house. Very exciting game. And there is our contestant, Megan on the floor. Let's bring her up. Hi, Megan. Drew used to be on a morning show. When you guys played music,
Starting point is 00:31:02 maybe the intro to a segment or something, did you dance around in your seats? No. Uncontrollably like House just was. You could lose your mind over some generic game show music. I'm stunned that House lasted through this whole show. I would think Todd having been in the business as long as he would go, Oh yeah, this is just a disaster. Yeah. Give him some notes. I think Todd likes this. Todd doesn't know what's good obviously. No, I think what's good is if you laugh at Todd, right? He does a jerky boy impression phone calls He does his horrible song parodies where he she horns in all these syllables that don't work. And so he's a cornball
Starting point is 00:31:37 He doesn't get it. If there's a guy cracking up. He's like I like this guy We should keep this guy around more of it. He's fun Well all those people on the show, when they introduce him, which Opie and Anthony, that's one of my favorites, Joktovers is the first Todd show. He's introducing all those people. He picked a whole new staff.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He dumps Shannon and then they're off the earth I think for two weeks. And it's a whole, like, I'm finally doing it my way. And then that staff bombs. And now he's got a whole new staff again. And you would think with this much experience, I mean, almost 30 years doing a morning show in New York, he would have better judgment than this. Don't you think that he wants to surround himself with people who are less talented than him? That's why he saw monk
Starting point is 00:32:19 and went, this guy's perfect. I don't have to worry about him taking, I don't have to worry about him taking my job. The way I took Scott's, he's the van driver. Right. I think he purposely surrounds himself with people who the way I took Scott's. Yeah. He's the van driver. Right. I think he purposely surrounds himself with people who aren't very good at this. Yeah. He's the van driver who cried when I noticed he was a little more talented than that. He said he was pretty good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Let's get back into this game show. Basically what happens is they ask a trivia question if the person doesn't get it, the other person can steal it and get the points. And- Look at the smile on that person's face. That's Megan, the contestant. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And I don't know if you realize this, it's unbelievable, Megan is hilarious. Oh great. She says something and everyone loses their minds over it. Wow. It's got a barn burner going here. Three points. I don't get it, I don't get it. I don't understand what's happening. All! He's got a barn burner going here. Three points! I don't get it, I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't understand what's happening. All right, sorry, Megan, you're still alive. It's all rockin' here. We're totally fine, no problem. Good, I was a little concerned for a second there. Yeah, I bet. She's like, yeah, okay, Todd, whatever. I'm so glad I got you.
Starting point is 00:33:19 She's awesome! I really don't care. You know, I'm just playing a game. I do what I do. Whatever. Wow. She really didn't say anything and they just kept escalating. You're getting funnier and funnier. Look at how's his face. I mean, it's like he's just heard the most hilarious, you know, diatribe or what, you know, he's like, he's at a Chappelle show.
Starting point is 00:33:43 He actually looks like an orc. Smaller ones. Yeah, looks like an orc. Smaller ones. Yeah, right. I get it. One of the ones you could take if you had a sword. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:54 This is where I couldn't believe that this was happening right here. Now I realize we live in America. We don't have the metric system. But the reason why the metric system exists and why it's popular around the world is because of its simplicity. Everything's multiples of 10. That's how it works, no matter what you're measuring. And so, House is stupid.
Starting point is 00:34:14 He won't know this. House, how many meters are there in one kilometer? Drew, any idea how many meters there are in a kilometer? I... wait, meters in a kilometer? No. Okay. Brandon? I'd say about a kilo. Okay, so I guess this is a hard question. Kilo means a thousand.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I fully rejected the metric system like every other American. Okay. Except you, apparently. It's that easy. Okay, let's see what he thinks about this. Megan, Google this while we're at it. 2175. I have no idea. That's retarded. Yeah, it's not like miles. No, it's not a conversion where it's like there's 5200 feet in a mile or something like that. It's very simple to do This gets crazier because this question is also too hard for Megan. Hey, why don't you know this? What's that? Why don't you ask Chris if he knew the answer? Oh, yeah. Hey Chris is you know
Starting point is 00:35:23 Alright so now the question now it's over to Megan to steal. He won't know this. That's the one I just played. Isn't it? Okay. Yeah. No way. So we're going to Megan for the steal. You need this one. Megan, you gotta, you gotta have this one. I hope you Googled it. How many, how many meters in one kilometer? He's mouthing it to her. She just said 0.5. All right. She thinks that there's 0.5 meters in the kilometer.
Starting point is 00:35:56 All right. Maybe she'll get it. Maybe she'll figure it out here. Okay. I'm going to back that up. They're showing her, they're doing hand motions. And so she says, Obviously 100% oblivious still that means we're alive. So if she gets yeah Kilometers show they said a hundred they go. Yep. That's the answer right there
Starting point is 00:36:45 Which is wild to me because a hundred meters and a thousand meters is such a crazy difference. If you just thought about how like on your speedometer, the clouders are not that far behind miles, you might figure out pretty quick. That's not like three first downs. It's not hexameters. Guys, it's a heck diameter, right? How is not watching them doing this? They're in the same room. Well, cause house is taking on purpose.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Cause they want the listener to win. Well, cause house is taking on purpose because they want the listener to win. So I see no stakes or anything. That's cute. Yes. It's cute. So I couldn't believe this was happening and apparently no one else knew that there's a thousand meters of a kilometer except for me and Chris. But you would think someone would tell them, someone would look it up. This continues. No, and I didn't mean that. There was no math involved in kilometer by the way you just need to know that kilo means 100 look at his face well that's retarded why would kilo mean 100 and she's so sure of herself too he's like by the way idiot everyone
Starting point is 00:37:39 knows kilo means 100 all right if you say so. I have one more clip on here because this is the funniest thing that House has ever heard. You've never seen him laugh harder than this. In Practical Jokers, the movie drops today. Now, his wallet's almost coming out already. He's like, I'm in on this, baby. I hate those people. Hate strong. I hate those people. Yeah. Hate strong. I don't, I shouldn't hate anyone. My mother was still alive.
Starting point is 00:38:08 She heard me say that. She said, you know, I turned the program off. I was watching the program with your father. When you said you hated a person, I was so disappointed. I wanted to hang myself with my own bath court. She said things like that, which is why I've turned out the way I pretty much did.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I would have liked to take my own bathrobe belt, hang myself from my shower when I heard you say that. You know how that reflects on me as a mother? You would say those things, which is why I'm this. This is what happened. It is. It's why I'm, and I go like this, I'm sorry, ma. Please don't hang yourself from your shower. I would feel bad
Starting point is 00:38:49 Check house's blood pressure. He had to cover his mouth. He was like am I ruining the show by laughing too much? I'm trying to contain myself. Wow. I felt this hilarity So that's Todd's mom sound like a gay man, by the way Because that's the only voices he can do. There's a few voices. Sometimes he ends up getting right into the radio voice, and sometimes he's got to forget about it voice. Did you notice they'll bring up Al Pacino, for example, so he can do his Al Pacino, even if he's just barely in the news.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Right. They definitely work around his talents, which is an important thing to do. The good news is, this show is behind the paywall. It is now all available on HeyTodd.com. I don't know how long it's going to be there. It's up there by season? Are there five seasons of this? I think there's three.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, maybe there are five, but this is only over the course of a year or so, right? I think a season's a month, because there's like 23 episodes a season for some reason. I think that's right. Maybe he's trying to act like it lasted longer than it did. Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. So yeah, we'll have to come back and check it on some of these episodes. I've got to find ones that aren't so COVID heavy. But you know, this is really incredible when you think about it. The fact that this team splits up and clearly Scott is greater than Todd. Yep. Because Scott is number one at CBS.
Starting point is 00:40:08 PLJ falls way down on the ratings. This guy is doing a podcast. He was talking to, I would imagine in New York, probably well over a million people a week. Yes. And he cannot monetize a podcast. And we see this time and again with a lot of radio personalities who have a big audience that apparently they're more excited about the frequency than the voices that are coming
Starting point is 00:40:31 through that frequency. Doesn't it seem that way? Cause as soon as a new person ends up in that frequency, they go, no, this is my new show I listen to now. I can listen to a radio show and if you find out they're doing a podcast, I can usually tell you, oh, nobody's going to listen to that. Or, you know, maybe that has a shot. I think there's certain shows that it's interesting though, Opie and Anthony where you have clearly Opie and Jim greater, or I'm sorry, Anthony and
Starting point is 00:40:54 Jim greater than Opie. They've had successes, compound media, Jim has done well. Opie has 160,000 subscribers or something on YouTube and he'll do videos that get 600 and 700. Oh, those are his good videos. I mean, he does videos that do 70 and 80. But he can't, it drives him crazy that these low level podcasts are trolling him and making fun of him because he says, I made millions. You'll never have the success we did.
Starting point is 00:41:20 It's not, no, nobody is trolling you. I think what we're all starting to think is that Anthony could have done this with anyone. Correct. I mean, Opie did not possibly deserve to make millions of dollars a year. That's what I think people think. Oh, I think that, I think that's a definite. Now, did Opie find Anthony? Yes. I mean, Anthony had found Opie, but Opie brought him out of the show. And same thing with Jim Norton. Opie had a lot to do with bringing those people together. Yeah. He's a manager.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And Opie was good on the show when the shock, shock era, when they were still bringing in strippers and girls who need a lot of attention to take their clothes off. And he would have the whiffle ball bat challenge to see how far you get a whip ball bat inside a woman's vagina. And they would market. That's all Opie stuff. That's all Opie stuff. Okay. That was his big, as soon as the shock, Chuck stuff, like lawsuits and whatever, when that stuff
Starting point is 00:42:10 went away and it turned into, Oh, let's have comics in them. We'll just be funny. Openy was relegated to just picking up the, he's call screener, picking up the phone calls, driving the show as he would say, steering the ship. See, I picked up on the show much later because I wasn't on in the morning anymore, so I could hear them on satellite. And a few other people I know, people from my own show and other people who were in the sort of same zone, all of us used to say, what does he do? Why did they need that guy? That was just our first reaction. I was being totally honest. I just didn't really understand what he did to justify having his name on the show, but I didn't know all the history.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Well, and you've been going back and listening to jocktober segments. They're all over YouTube. And the thing, I think you sent me a note. One of the things you picked up on that used to drive me nuts when this was happening. I was listening to it live is everyone's on there having a blast. Sam Rogers put all these clips. They're responding to the clips, making great jokes. It's fun. And open just like, I'm just getting depressed, man. Oh yeah. Radio is, can we stop doing this now? He just tried to bring the fun to a halt every time.
Starting point is 00:43:12 All right, I'll be no, he acts like he's mad. Right. People aren't doing a show just like his. Cause I loved October because they would do a Jacktober segment every day in October. And by the third day of October, I'll be like, I don't think we're going to do this anymore. This is pissing me off. No, it's he's just, he's just a kind of a wet towel on the whole thing because he has nothing else to do. He can't make any jokes. Right. So he has to play the radio angle. Yeah. Or he, or he's just trying to sort of limit the fun that Anthony and Jim are creating.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't know what he's doing, but it doesn't work. And I see a lot of people rag him in the comments. Yes. Well, people have wised up. There's the, the nopey channel where a guy has created all the old open Anthony segments, taking Opie out and you pretty much don't miss a beat. It's, it's, it's perfectly fine. He missed many shows. Not that often. There were times when it was just Anthony and Jim and those were great. Did Anthony did miss shows or so? Did he? Yeah, probably. Okay. Anthony was the one who was out drinking and bought a apartment in Manhattan so that he didn't have to go back to home to log Island. He just crashed his apartment for a couple
Starting point is 00:44:18 hours of them to walk into work. It is smart. I just always kind of wondered, you know, I'm having been part of a team for a long time. I think there's a few things that happened. One is it's only natural for one person to think I can do this without that guy. And in his case, it seems to me he would have thought that by the year 2000. Yeah, they didn't need him. But apparently he felt he did or he felt the brand was more important. Well, they got a lot of money in that guy that's not doing that much. Yeah. Yeah. Opie was definitely the mouthpiece
Starting point is 00:44:51 to management and he was the one who kind of made all the decisions. He was the boss. They always refer to him and Opie like people don't like me because I was the boss on that show. But that's not where the value is. No, it's actually annoying. You're paying him 2 million or $3 million a year to do, I don't know. I just, honestly, I'd love to talk to Anthony about it and sort of find out, you know, when did you sort of think, do we need this guy? Cause I would've thought that he, maybe he and Jim would've, I mean, it just happens. It always happens with teams. So Opie was the one who was threatening to leave the team.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. He was always the last one to sign. Anthony was always going like, let's just sign a 10 year deal. What are we doing? I like Anthony was just happy to not have the responsibilities that Opie had. And they just wanted to show up, be funny and leave. Well, Opie wasn't radio since he was 18 years old. Of course he was. He's a pro and he learned from brother wheeze. I want to tell you about my friends at magic mind. Of course, Magic Mind is the world's first mental health performance elixir. I brought it with me to Detroit. I always bring it with me
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Starting point is 00:47:21 we were just talking about other radio duos and one of the radio duos down in Florida that had a big show is Ron and Ronna. This was Ron Bennington and Ron Diaz. Yeah, Ron Bennington, I assume a lot of this audience has a lot of love for Ron Bennington. Yeah, Ron and Fez was on after opening Anthony on XM and then Sirius and Ron Bennington's been around a long time. Phenomenal radio personality, very funny guy. I know Tukey's a huge fan and Blind Mike just recently did a Why Are You Laughing about
Starting point is 00:47:54 Ron and Fez and the various producers on that show. Eastside Dave, a bunch of guys people know. Yeah, I'm not sure how many people though, generally fans that are listening to this for example, know about Ron Bennington's past, the Ron and Ron show, which started in 87. Ron Bennington was doing stand-up. I think Ron Diaz used to have him on doing comedy or promoting his shows or whatever. They end up as a team on Tampa's 95 Y&F, and the thing just blows up. Just absolutely killed. And they had
Starting point is 00:48:25 live events that were incredibly successful. I mean, they draw 10,000 people for a live event. And their monster ratings led to the creation of the Ron and Ron Network. Their last day in Y&F Tampa was in March of 93. The network opens up in Miami, Orlando, and Jacksonville. And there was supposedly a big Tampa deal ahead, because that was their market market. And it said 10 to 12 other cities. And then shortly, not too long after that in December of 94, Ron Diaz announced his wife, Debbie has AIDS. He has to start missing shows. Debbie Diaz passes away in 95. Ron Diaz leaves in 97, but the Ron and Ron show was really a monster in Florida for about a decade. And then Ron soldiers on with replacement hosts, by the way, all of whom use the name Ron. Okay. It makes it easy for the audience. Yeah. I don't think that was
Starting point is 00:49:09 a coincidence. Okay. It may have been a joke. I don't know. It's funny though. The 11 year run ends in late 97. They did put out a couple of really big selling videos. This is before girls gone wild. They had Ron and Ron Puppies Breathe, which I guess sold hundreds of thousands of copies. They had Ron and Ron's Pup Fiction with live gig highlights because the live shows, it sounded like the live shows were just huge. And then Ron opened a comedy club in Clearwater and toured with Ron Bennington's Disciples of Comedy.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Does that sound familiar? Like the Stuttering John thing? Yeah, Stuttering John and Friends. Yeah. So yeah, it was kind of a launching pad for a lot of comedians there because they had, you know, such a pull with their radio audience. And then after the show broke up, Ron Bennington seemed to want, he seems to think much bigger than Ron Diaz who stayed in Tampa. Although Ron Diaz did very well. And what I've heard of the two of them, they were a good team. They sound very good
Starting point is 00:50:04 together. He stayed at Classic Rock and then went to sports radio and worked at sports radio until 2020. Ron Bennington went to New York, of course, NW, Washington, JFK, and then XM. But there's a classic, I remember hearing about this when we were on radio in, I think it's 93, that Don Johnson had just really shown his ass on the Ron and Ron show. And I think this kind of got them some national publicity. Anyway, Don Johnson calls in to promote a opening of a planet Hollywood. Yep. Remember those? I do. Yeah. So he's got a new one in Miami last open. This is a big show in Miami. So it's a good way to get some publicity out. Now the problem with due publicity on morning
Starting point is 00:50:43 radio is I'm sure you're aware is that the guests have to get up really early in the morning to do that. Now, a lot of them are not morning people. No, and it's pretty clear from the outset, even before what you're going to hear, that Don Johnson sounds really rough. There's a lot of them already. I like the jackets. How about some jackets, Don? I'll send you some. That would be nice. What else are you doing these days? Actually all your listeners. How many you got? Two, three? Yeah, two, three million. Don, were you up late? Everyone gets a jacket. Were you up late Don? Actually I performed last night. Where at? Yeah. Where? I can't last night. Where at? Yeah. Where? I can't tell you that. I could tell you. But then I'd have to kill you. Yeah. Oh man. Don, are you still up from last night? No. No. What I like
Starting point is 00:51:33 about this, they picked up on this immediately. Yeah. No, they did. And I would have really been, I have to admit, I would have, it would have taken something more dramatic than this to make me point it out. And also I love the fact that they're not buying into his celebrity. They have this big celebrity and then I just go in like, ha ha, you have to kill it, right? They're just like, uh, okay. I've heard this before though, when something goes wrong with a local radio show and the guest doesn't realize they have like a million people listening.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They have no idea how big the show is. And so yeah, they're really not hit hard by the, what do you have two or three people listening? He's ever Rob Schneider again. Yeah Others know he doesn't sounds like an asshole everyone listening. They know it's worse Well, I woke up early. Yeah early for me have some coffee. I did have coffee Never without a brother without the Irish whiskey Rough this morning. Yeah, but without it. Without the Irish whiskey. It's kind of a little rough this morning. Hey, you still racing? No, I sold the boat.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Kind of a familial deal. Mrs. Johnson didn't appreciate it. Oh, she didn't like it? Well, she liked seeing me go fast. She just was disappointed when I didn't crash. and well he liked it and they may go back but disappointed when i didn't crash uh... now you to get along to that
Starting point is 00:52:51 you know we pick up the paper one day i'm not on the end i don't know which one i'm talking with you time to both of us you guys back together or a are you guys joined at the hip well and ron and i'm not going to have a time ron as he said and i did get i was ready and i think that i think that i need to step up for a couple cocktails of mel don't mind you have to play some catch a ball b l
Starting point is 00:53:18 uh... uh... and the way it is more happening with the i already talked with donnie we go way back at least what two minutes Donnie Two three minutes for sure. I'm gonna make sir. So this is planet Hollywood We know we know what he's opening up Yeah, I'll try to get it back on track the whole tried to come to the rescue like alright guys fun It's fun, but we have wrote this planet Hollywood. He's opening up. Sounds delicious. The whole denied.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Yes. I like these guys. They can tell. All right. All right. We already did this plug. Let's talk to this guy now. So you'll notice that one of the things that made him turn, I guess it's publicly known
Starting point is 00:53:57 at this time that he's having issues with his wife. They have an on again, off again relationship. So he talks about this boat and he's like, yeah, my wife didn't like the boat. Cause I never crashed and died. Right. So he made the first remarks. They're like, oh, how are you getting along with her? Which is perfectly normal. He brought it up, but he doesn't remember that. They do. So he gets very upset with that for talking about his wife. All right. So, okay. We have been out late. Let's say you're out late and you have
Starting point is 00:54:19 to get up real early. That's what you're saying. That's why you're very tired. I am more than tired. Okay. You're with that's what we tried to say all now you tried to you tried to get me know we never you came on no we did not don't get me no we did not have a this time they're watching the way they don't and i think that that that that that that that that that that that that that that kind of language we can't use on the air. So Don swears and they have to dump it.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah. And the dump has to reset. Right. So that they can get back on track. Breaks things up a little bit. There's a question in the chat. Was Fez around at this time? Yeah, you actually do hear Fez's voice.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I don't think I have it in the clip, but he's like an intern at the time. Oh, he's an intern. Okay. Yeah, I think so. He had some kind of role on the show, but a Fez was around at this time because a Fez and, and Ron met at the comedy club and that's the whole thing. So, all right, let's keep this conversation going. They have to reset the feed. And so they explained to them, you know, you can't use that language. And sometimes alcohol is
Starting point is 00:55:25 a truth serum. There are certain people, you get them drunk, they start talking, you go, Oh, this is what you've been holding back. Now, you're not in the movies. You know, you can't use language like that. I can do whatever I want to do. How do you figure that? Don, we're just having a famous bigger than you. I'm rich. I'm famous. I'm bigger than you. I'm bigger than you. I'll do that. I'll do that. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So not a great look, I would say. Right? No, really. Or right there. But you can tell he's really upset that his wife was brought up by him, but he doesn't remember that. You mean heads divorce business. We didn't wait a minute. No, no, Don. We did not. remember that you mean that wait a minute no no don we did not you brought up
Starting point is 00:56:09 you brought up mrs johnson and listen listen you brought up mrs johnson when we asked you about the race or should i get hang up now don't hang up don don don't hang on you brought up mrs johnson when you we asked you, are you still racing? And then you brought up Mrs. Johnson. You said, well, she liked my... That's how you slipped into the sport. We didn't slip in and we asked you about racing. That's a beautiful segue. No, we asked you about racing.
Starting point is 00:56:34 She liked me to race. She was upset when I didn't crash. They're trying to explain to him. They're not the ones who brought it up. Yeah, he's not going to remember this. No, he is not. And so his argument gets very childish at this point by the way guys Right guys are so stupid. How old are you? Listen Don we're younger than you I'm 38. How old are you Don? 38 How old are you? You guys, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:02 How old are you? I'm an adult. What do you mean? This really brought back a memory to me. We were calling people with strange real names on the air one day and we're calling Harry balls and I've called him the woman knew what was going on. She said, how old are you? And I remember I was 38.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I said, I'm 38. I'm just realizing that I'm too old to be doing this, man. Thank you for asking. I appreciate it. All right. So after the childish argument, this interview didn't last long. And this is how it concludes. You brought up about some sort of a divorce.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So what are you going to do, Don? Well, listen, you guys want to talk to each other? What are you going to do? You say you're going to to miami and do what then character and now that's not you're not going to know how fast we would be slap you pretty boy it that they were you have to take okay where i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i where and when? where and when? where and when? where and when? where and when? where and when?
Starting point is 00:58:07 alright where and when don? where and when? where and when? yeah you said show up where and when? I don't know but I'm sure. oh you pussy! where and when? where and when? he had no place he had no time. I love him! jeez! I gotta tell you I love him. this is my favorite line. I'm rich and I'm famous. and I'm bigger than you. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the time. I love them. Jeez. I gotta tell you I love it. This is my favorite line. I'm rich and I'm famous And I'm bigger than you it's fantastic very well, is that great? Yes, that's great Begging to keep him on the phone They know they're in the middle of gold I could not wondering after listening this because it was so funny Did Ron and Ron ever do a show together? Did Ron and Fez ever have Ron? Oh, that's a good question. He has Ron.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I don't know the answer to that. You think he'd call in or something. Well, yeah. I mean, it's such a great run. You would just, but maybe it didn't end well. I don't really know what the story is. Very possible. I believe Ron Bennington, did he have a alcohol problem or something with substance abuse
Starting point is 00:59:03 problem back in the day? So it's possible it's possible things in end well, usually time heals, of course, of course. And Ronnie's a great guy that everyone I know adores in recent years. So I could see why they'd want to make up and make things right. But I had to look into that. That's a good question. I find a clip of that or something. Yeah. I mean, they were really big. I remember in the 90s, I mean, there was Howard Stern on Mount Olympus, and then beneath him were just a few other people like Ron and Ron. There just weren't that many shows that were known around the country.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Man Cow, John DiBella maybe. I mean, just Kevin and Bean. Kevin and Bean, yeah. Yeah. But Ron and Ron were as big as anything beneath Howard Stern, I think. Yeah. Well, and rightfully so. Ron Bennington is a true talent. Very funny guy. I forgot Bob and Tom. And Bob and Don and Mike.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Don and Mike were big. Well, since we're talking about radio. And Steven and Gary. Steven and Gary in Chicago. And I do want to talk to you about that, but since we're talking about radio, Mike Kelter still has a radio show in Tampa and he's been there a long time. It's very successful on the radio and he recently started a podcast, me and my wife, we covered it on who are these podcasts and it's him with his wife for some reason.
Starting point is 01:00:21 We were trying to figure out why they would do this because his wife, Amanda is not comfortable on the air. She doesn't seem to want to be doing it. I think we have more evidence that maybe she doesn't want to be doing it. I thought she just seemed like a bitch. Well, she's not going to like that. It's for sure. Sour look on her face the whole time. Doesn't she? Does she ever smile? She's, she's not going to like that. You said that she's not handling our review of the show very well. They put out a response and this is on the Mike Kelter radio show. He starts talking about this. And of course he does his show from his house. So his wife
Starting point is 01:00:54 comes downstairs and, and joins the show to address this. Does the radio show from his house? I guess so. Yeah. That's his studio. It's his radio studio still from COVID. I mean, you do a show from your house. What guess so. Yeah. That's his studio. It's his radio studio. Still from COVID. I mean, you do a show from your house. What's he talking about? He's on the radio. Great crew. He's got around. Doesn't want to be in the same room. They're all in the room. They all come to his house. Yeah. His producers there, all the guys. Yeah. Okay. He's got a nice setup. So I don't know, maybe it saves the station money. I don't know. The answer is no, it saves, it saves him driving to the station and driving home. Oh yeah. Working out of your house is amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Cause everybody has to come to his house. They still have to commute, but he doesn't. Right. So yeah, that's what being the boss is, I guess, and having good ratings. That is true. Cause he does, he does well, I guess. He does well with compelling content like this. And after eight solid episodes of me and my wife rambling on in our own podcast for our own fun and enjoyment, we've made it to the podcast called who are these podcasts and
Starting point is 01:01:54 uh, they review it and they absolutely hate us and say it sucks and it's terrible. And uh, Joe, you're the worst part of it. The first episode, it's so great because the first episode, uh, I forgot to turn the microphones on and I forgot that I had engaged the mics. Even if we were in headphones for you to hear us, that one was my fault. Then you were showing an empty chair for a little while. That was, uh, it was a disaster. So it's a couple of convenient things right out of the gate. And he's taking this well, obviously it's, this is the way to respond to something like this. Like, yeah, they made fun of some stuff that yeah, we weren't doing great. But I like that. He says,
Starting point is 01:02:33 you know, we're just, my wife and I just doing the show to like our muse ourselves. Isn't that convenient when you want it to be? Yeah. Does he really not want to get 20,000 views? No, no, they're just putting it up on YouTube and promoting it all the time because they're just doing it for themselves. What's the point to give his wife a show? No, he obviously wants it to be wildly successful because he's looking for what's he going to do when radio dries up, which it's dry. It's actively drying up.
Starting point is 01:02:59 No, it's, I think he's smart to do a podcast, but I just, he should know. He knows what good content is. Why does he keep doing it with his wife? Well, there's a theory out there. I think my buddy, Patrick Melton, nobody likes onions, was talking about this. There are these guys, Aaron Himmels, one of them who feel a need to show off their younger, hot wife. And so Aaron did it with April and Mike's doing it. Rich Voss does it. Of course, his wife's a comic, so it makes a little more sense to have Bonnie McFarland be the cohost. But you see this a lot with podcasters. I had not thought about that call. Cause I think
Starting point is 01:03:37 I would think the opposite because his wife is, is very attractive. Yeah. Mike's heavy sad. You know, she might, some people might go, Oh, wow, he's vulnerable. I got a shot at her. Right. I thought you're going to say you got a young attractive wife. She should be seen and not heard. That's the angle I would have got. I was like, wow, she might be amazing. There's plenty of assholes who go, she's out of his league. Yeah. But for sure. I'm sure although she doesn't sound super enamored about their love life. Didn't she make some joke about not having to be with them after he did something?
Starting point is 01:04:16 You didn't make me have sex or something to that effect. Oh yeah. This is a lustless marriage. That's what it sounded like. Yeah. So I don't go faker. Can you imagine? But maybe, no, you're, you're right though. Some guys do like showing up. I remember a guy at the sales staff at W, uh, well, I won't mention what station I've been there like three days and he showed me a nude picture of his wife. Oh God. My wife is so hot. Check it
Starting point is 01:04:42 out. Like, Oh my God. Is it, I mean, she, she was attractive, but I mean, why showing me this? That's insecurity. That's what that, that's where that comes from. Like, I don't know if you think I'm cool or not, but check this out. I'm having sex with this. Like, all right. I didn't think you were cool. Still doubt, but all right. Congrats. And since you said it, I think you're probably right. Yeah. All right. So here comes some of the, what's that Chris? It's a little gay. It is gay. It's like, do you have a boner? Can I see it? It was the same thing when Aaron showed Kayla's new to Gino allegedly. We're just like, Hey, your boy did pretty good. I just like, yeah. Okay. Another one for the toe. Another one for the
Starting point is 01:05:21 towel. Look at you. All right. So more excuses coming out about why their show wasn't very good that we made fun of. So how did you turn that mic towards you and talk into it? So how, how did you heard me talking about it? Yes. Listen, there's going to be plenty of people that don't like the podcast. These guys have a podcast about podcasts that they don't like. This is a badge of honor as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Who cares? He made the cut. Listen to me. There's no way you're going to do eight episodes or something and it's going to be good in eight episodes. It's going to take
Starting point is 01:05:54 time and over time each one has gotten better. Who cares? Okay. So again, with the cope guys, I mean, we're just starting out. Who cares? I didn't want it to be good. Who cares? And plus it's going to get better. We're just starting off and I don't really care. You're a radio personality for decades and you think that we should be judging you based on only having eight episodes under your belt? Yeah. I think he should care more and he probably does care more, but he's trying to mollify her or calm her down. She's probably very upset about it because she's never done this. She is upset. And here
Starting point is 01:06:25 comes more cope because now first he started out with, isn't it great that BTP recognizes is what they're known for. It is a badge of honor. It is a badge of honor. It's more tension for the show, for the podcast, which you want to get out there. But then it turns into, we're just nerds at the base, man. You know, you gotta, you gotta go to that realm. Okay. Three nerds in a room pretending they have a show. They have, they have, uh, we've been doing eight episodes and they barely have double the amount of people we have watching. Who cares? I get my feelings hurt easily. Why? What is the, did you hear what I said though? I defended your honor. The one thing that they did say was that you didn't know about the Wu Tang
Starting point is 01:07:00 clan because you were wearing the shirt and I know that's a, that's not right lie. I need them to know that. Well, listen, who cares? Oh, this isn't going to go well. No, she's already acknowledging what upsets her, which is rule one about this sort of thing. Like, and the fact that they don't think I know Wu Tang Clan, like, I don't think she does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I don't, I don't think she's good at taking criticism at all. And also, I think Mike's math is off a little bit. I think you have more than double what we're doing there. Yeah, he also says he has 5,000 views on videos. The one from 11 days ago was 1,600 views on it. So I might be inflating that a little bit. You know, because he's a radio guy, he may have audio only. He may have a lot of people listening. I do too're not just, he's a little off on all of this because he thinks that the video segment we put out about their show is the only place you would find that he goes, we did a whole episode about it. I was like, no, that was just a segment on a full episode. That's available. We have the paywall. It's available for anyone for
Starting point is 01:08:00 audio that's free. There's a lot of places where people will hear this. That's just the one spot you found it, but now he's got it all figured out. We've been around for a long time and we only have twice as many listeners. His math is convenient. I'll call it. Okay. And, and off. So he's trying to help out. He's trying to cope. He's trying to make a man to know that this is okay. It's not a big deal, but she does not like it. I listen to me. The fact that those guys did a whole episode of their podcast about how bad our podcast is makes me happy. Legitimately happy, not even happy where I'm like, well, I'll show them.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I'm glad. You're a different person though. You are in this realm of entertainment and people talk about you. People don't talk about me. And if people do talk about me, then it's like personal. As Carmen said, you're in the business now. Yeah. Put yourself in the business. I'm out of the business. No, you can't be out of the business is where we got to come back stronger than ever. We got a big, wow. She's sour. She takes it personally.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I don't think this was her idea. Is she playing me or it was this Mike's idea like, Hey, we should do a podcast together. You come down once a week. We'll talk about the kids and the family because she seems to want nothing to do with this criticism. Oh, I think she wants to know you the criticism. Usually though, when a spouse wants to be on their successful spouses show that they're never on, usually it's the person wanting to get their face in the limelight. Right. But the way that she's handling this tells me she's not that person that Mike wanted to show off his wife.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You, you may be right, but she may also have thought that this is going to, this people are going to love me. And I'm so hot. Although she's not, she's not like super dressed up for this or anything. I mean, I may be misjudging her. I just know that if she can't handle this little bit of criticism, I don't think she's cut out for this. I don't think she's used to being criticized. No, I don't think so. Most people aren't. Most people are ridiculed for doing a shitty job and stuff. Yeah. It was kind of put their head down and go, Oh, what are you going to do? And I have a feeling that maybe it's a theme throughout her life that she doesn't get criticized a lot. You got to touch up those roots. I know what I was. I mean, you just tied to how criticism so bad for people like her, but wow, that's not a good look. So Amanda explains she doesn't
Starting point is 01:10:14 even like attention. And I think I believe this. I don't have the self-confidence or the self esteem to be in the business. Can I tell you? You have to go on Friday and do it live in front of people. Oh my God, no man! Ask Joe! I'm freaking out! Why? She's been freaking out. Why? Because I just, I'm not good with attention. I don't like attention.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Well then you shouldn't do a show that draws attention. I know, it was a bad idea. Yeah, I think you're right, Carl. I don't was a bad idea. Yeah, I think you're right, Carl. I don't think she wants to do this. I think you're right. And I've seen this as genuine. She's going, yeah, I don't want this. I didn't sign up for this.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And she's not all dolled up for this. So Mike is, I don't know. I think Mike is really pushing this and doing a live show. Why is he doing it? First of all, the show is not ready to do a live show. Oh, I know. It's not strong enough. It's just dropped.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I haven't a minute. Oh, okay. We'll take a look at it. We'll see what that looks like. Was I right about that? Of course. Okay. And the other thing is to do a live show, there must be money involved to do a live
Starting point is 01:11:20 show. This must be an effort to make money. He's trying to monetize a podcast. The live show that they're doing is part of this seltzer wonderland event that's sponsored by neutral, which is a hard seltzer. Yeah. So neutrals is hard seltzer and they have this event with 40 different seltzers. They have other brands coming in and they have a real housewife is going to be there. And I think other radio stations are tied to it. So there has to be a payout or something in some form.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Well, if you're, if you're a morning drive show, even if you're successful, you have to know your income can only go one way going forward. So maybe he's thinking ahead, which is smart. I agree with that. I think that's what he's doing, but this is him bragging about the numbers. I was talking about earlier. Listen, the, the, anybody can do a podcast. Clearly we decided. So that's a shot at me. Ooh. Yeah. So he goes back and forth between, isn't it great? These guys are talking about that's all they do. You know, wow. It's pretty amazing. They're just like, I mean, any asshole, any nerd can do a podcast. Like, okay, but we're doing it better than you. So he's trying to, he's trying to sell it to her. He's a keeper in play. I think, cause you know, I was thinking, why doesn't he do this podcast with his other show members who
Starting point is 01:12:33 are familiar with the show who do well and they could, you know, have a different theme, but maybe that's just not enough interest. So he's like, Oh, I'll do it with my wife. And that's something different. It does lead to probably different conversations. Cause he's got to fill a morning show every day. What else are you going to talk about? Or it sounds like, and also why through something, you don't have to share the income with all your show members, which is the same as your money. Ding, ding, ding. That's a great point. We decided we wanted to do it. And if you listen to it, you listen to it. If you don't, you don't, nobody's being forced to listen to it. I agree. And each episode has gotten
Starting point is 01:13:08 upwards of 3000 views per per episode. There's someone, there were 5,000 views. That's eight episodes. Okay. So bragging about the, the count on there. I checked it out myself. Not quite the case, but let's check out this latest one. And we are live. It is the Me and My Wife podcast. I am me, my Calder radio superstar. This is my wife, Amanda Calder, licensed therapist, and we do a podcast together and we are live at our first, this is a gig. We're at our live at our gig. This is absolutely bizarre. Yes. Me right now.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And we are live at a place called them a happy theater in downtown St. Petersburg. Okay. I want to point out the body language that I'm seeing right here. She is trying to hide behind him. He has his arm on her leg holding her still. She is nervous AF right here. And you could tell like her only thing is just like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm doing this. This is what she always does. I can't believe I'm doing this. I can't buy it. I don't have any, I don't have any business being here. I can't believe that's her shtick. She's all dressed up though. She looks great and he's wearing
Starting point is 01:14:14 a tie, but this is, is this a very rock and roll event to be at? This is a classic rock guy, right? Yes. No, this is a real housewives. It's a money grab. Well, okay. Let's fast forward to when the, uh, the guests come on. This is at, uh, 12 37 into the show. These guests are going to match the classic rock show that he does in the morning. Correct. Going in front of you. I'm going in front of you. So we're live and joining us right now are the very lovely, uh, two days ladies, Teresa and Gia. Let me give them a second to get their headphones on. I just got so ugly. No, stop it. You're, I feel like a smell. Wonderful. I feel like a dirt bag now. Give the, give the ladies a second to
Starting point is 01:14:55 get their headphones on and get the microphones. How are right, relax. We're live at Winterselterland. And Theresa and Gia are here with us now. He's doing the radio buy time thing. Hey, if you're just joining us right now. I don't have headphones on yet. They're sitting right across. They can still hear him. He's just killing time.
Starting point is 01:15:18 You got microphones there? Grab those right next to you. Can you hear? Yeah. A little rough. How are you ladies doing? Good. Here are the microphones. Yes. How are you ladies? You're the microphone. Yes. How are you?
Starting point is 01:15:27 Good. I felt really confident about talk about people who are there for a money grab. These two women don't look like they want to be there at all. I can't. What do you have to do with you on these guys? Show now and talk to them. Sitting down for what? Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Fine. Is this what Mike Kelton needs to do to build a podcast audience? I don't think so. Here are the microphones. Yes. How are you? Good. I felt really confident about myself until you guys sat down next to me and now I feel
Starting point is 01:15:55 like a pile of shit. Oh my God. No. Why? Why would you say that? Because you're gorgeous. How are you? Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:03 They don't understand this at all. She's very pretty. And the woman that she's complimenting has had so much worked out on her face. She looks terrible. I think she's prettier than the guest. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. So she has to like give us this awkward compliment. I feel like a pile of shit, which means they're going to be like, no, you're gorgeous. I am what she was doing there. It's also a weird thing to say when your guests sits on, Hey, welcome. Great to have you. I feel like a piece of shit. Really strange thing to say to your guests. She's not good at this. She has very low self-esteem, very
Starting point is 01:16:38 low. Interesting. Is that maybe why she is married to a guy? I don't understand. I mean, Mike seems like a really good guy. Sure. He's great. Sure. He's fantastic. I'm sure. Well, one of the things that Mike likes to do to show that he's bigger than WACP is a little bit of name dropping as he's going to explain to us after that first, he said he only watched the first five minutes of our review of his show. We went through a bunch of different episodes, a lot of different clips and things that happened, but he only focused on this first episode that we were talking about where they weren't prepared.
Starting point is 01:17:07 They had the camera shots wrong and they weren't ready for it. And so he's going to explain that he taught to some professionals to get it right. And we have to the first one, we were like, all right, we got to fix some things. And then the executive producers for Letterman said, change your cameras, do this, turn it this way and all. And we were like, okay. And then Bobby Kelly was like, they got to tighten up your thing and we did all those things and they're like, all right, now we feel good about it. Now we got to go. It takes, took some time.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Well, so he took people's advice. That's good. I mean, instead of being completely defensive about it, not just people, the executives at letter mail and Robert Kelly, should he maybe have explained executives letterman? I mean, he makes it sound like, yeah, I consulted with the executives from letterman. Like he just he makes it sound like, yeah, I consulted with the executives from Letterman, like he just can call anyone. Right. I think that's what he's trying to make it seem like. The first episode we watched, he was talking about Bert Kreischer and other buddies and
Starting point is 01:17:53 how much money Bert Kreischer makes. Oh yeah. And she's, is she jealous of Bert? She doesn't want that much money. Oh yeah. She wanted a lot of money though. She was like, I don't want to have so much money that we can just like hop on a private jet to Hawaii. Cause then, you know, why are
Starting point is 01:18:07 you grinding anymore? It seems like I remember Mike assuring her that they do have a lot of money. Mike was offended by that. He's like, yeah, but we are very wealthy. Cause they're starting to buy their son who's not going to school anymore after high school, $260 sweatpants or something like that. That was very revealing that their son called from the mall and wanted to charge sweatpants, which is like, Oh, that's interesting. Maybe call, but then $260 sweatpants. And then didn't they both justify it? Yeah, they're like, yeah, but you know, they're going to be nice sweatpants. I used to buy shitty sweatpants and it lasts very long and
Starting point is 01:18:40 they're going to be stylish. And yeah, it's fine. I don't think I'd want my 18 year old kid buying $260 sweatpants on my budget. Well, you're not with it. Mike kept calling his son a loser and a stoner. Yeah, that was a little rough. And you could tell that a man who was very defensive, like, no, he's great. He's got his own business. He's working on his own business.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I wonder if Chris has gotten a call like that from the mall though, $260 sweatpants. Oh, no fucking way. No, she goes, she goes around to your face and asks for money, which is the polite way to do it. Brandon, a $2 or $60 sweat pants. You might have that call coming. No, no way. No. Okay. I can see Brandon spoiling the girls. Oh God. Would Kristen stand for it? Well, in about 15 years when they can I don't know when they're adults They'll probably be two hundred and fifty dollars just a little bit. Oh, no They'll be 450 if we're talking about the same sweatpants. Yeah, but Brandon you have that job in radio. You'll be fine. Yeah, you're right I'll be fine Alright guys the main thing the main problem with our review is that I don't even think
Starting point is 01:19:45 it was me on the show. It might've been, I say a lot of wild things. The main thing is that we were saying that maybe Amanda doesn't know Wu Tang as much as she lets on because she seems to be really into nineties gangster rap. And we were like, eh, but is she? And so here's some more cope. And we see that Amanda has to prove her knowledge. The fact that somebody else noticed it, it should be making you happy. No, she does not want to be noticed. She's doing a podcast and nobody notices it. I like you being noticed and me just like walking behind you and not getting introduced
Starting point is 01:20:22 to anybody. It's the same. The comments are all the same. The worst thing they said about you is that you didn't know about Wu Tang. And then the worst thing they said about me was that I was fat and had a hot wife. Who cares? We already knew that going into it. We almost called the podcast fat guy and hot wife. That's so offensive to me because the thing that I do know is knowledge about Wu Tang. I know serious about the therapist. She's a therapist and she never brags about that. No, she's a licensed therapist and she has outrageously low self-esteem. Yeah. Incredibly
Starting point is 01:20:54 low. Oh my God. So this thing where she's offended, she's said it's offensive that they would say, I don't know about Wu-T Tang. So whenever you go in the comments section of me and my wife on their YouTube channel, do not put in the comments section, this Amanda chick doesn't seem to know anything about Wu Tang. She gets very offended by that. I wonder what her feelings any further. Did she ever say anything to prove? Did she discuss Wu Tang clan in some way that proves that she is a super fan?
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah, that's coming up. Oh, okay. That's coming up in just a moment. But, uh, sometimes I sense that maybe she didn't pass your test. They start acknowledging the comment section underneath the video that we put up and there's probably over a hundred comments. There's a lot of comments under this video. And I even commented on it.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I even wondered everything and I said, I agree with your assessment. I'm looking now. Stay out of the comments. Let's pretend the comments don't exist. Nothing good in a comment section ever, ever. What are they saying? Let's see. Oh, that's our look. Oh yeah. She does not want to know about this. So Mike Kelt himself went to our comment section and said, these guys got it figured out. Very nice of him. I appreciate that. He has a great attitude about this. He really does. Yeah. No, it's, it's the way to handle this sort of thing. He should not have a couple of shots in at us, but he shouldn't have told her about this. I think that he thinks this is good banter. He's going to lead off the
Starting point is 01:22:19 next episode. They do in the studio probably with this. I'd be my guess. So he's sacrificing her wellbeing for some views. That's a radio guy. And that's how this whole thing started is sacrificing her wellbeing for him. Of course. That's my assessment of it. Anyway, I could be wrong. Amanda, if this is your idea, let me know. Cause I have a feeling you were drugged into this kicking and screaming the whole way. All right. So this is now they start reading through the comments. Some of our big max we have to talk about big max. This is unwatchable. Okay. Right off the gate. The guy goes something about big max. We got some of our big max. It was the first topic on the first episode.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Did you know that she's never had a big Mac or a whopper? And then they talk about big max and whoppers. I'm like, this is what you came with for your first. That's why I remember this. It's what you came with your first episode. Yeah. It was a real dubious claim to wasn't it. Hadn't had one in a certain amount of years. Oh, then she goes, well, maybe I had one. As if she was like a testifying under oath. I mean, it's possible. I did have one and I forgot. I don't recall. Right. I had one. I don't recall. Can either confirmed or deny unwatchable. That's just a popping up for me or your other, man. This is brutal, but her shirt is dope.
Starting point is 01:23:30 A compliment for me. I remember hating Kelta and Kelly too. She's a therapist question mark. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Amanda's awful. Wopper without Mayo is pretty darn good. Were you talking about whoppers? Oh, I never had one. Oh, now she's remembering. All right. So now we get to more Wu Tang comments and I don't use the word seething very often. There are some people who do. I think that Amanda's literally see thing at this point That's original. What does she know about Wu Tang clan? She is insufferable she knows nothing about Wu Tang Yeah Lot of come out swinging next time a lot of Wu Tang stuff here. No way. She knows Wu Tang
Starting point is 01:24:21 I gotta come out swinging next time. A lot of Wu-Tang stuff here. No way she knows Wu-Tang. Raw, I'mma give it to ya. With no trivia. Raw like cocaine straight from Bolivia. My hip hop will rock and shock the nation like the Emancipation Proclamation. Yeah, she knows Wu-Tang.
Starting point is 01:24:34 There's nothing you could argue about there. The audience seems to think otherwise. She memorized a part of a song, so there you go. Oh my God, Mike is just toying with his wife. Chris, you know what Wu-Tang song that was that she was rapping right there? No, I'm not familiar with myself. So there you go. Oh my God. Mike is just toying with his wife. Great. You know, Wu Tang song that was that she was rapping right there. No, I'm not familiar myself, but I don't, I don't claim to be. So that's the difference between me and Amanda Brandon. You know, that song I did not know. And I was wondering if she was going to sing all the lyrics, even the
Starting point is 01:24:57 ones that she's not allowed to sing. That'd be a good show. Mike would have loved that. I have one more clip on here. So she's trying to get out of there, but she's looking over this producer's shoulder. Who's reading through the comments as she's walking out. Cause she just can't help herself. She has to read what people are saying about her. Don't worry. Listen to me. Look at me. I know you're going to go right out there while you're eating your peanut butter and you're going to try and what, what do you see? I'm going to back that up. Just want to explain for people who are listening. She's reading over this guy's shoulder. She sees something at her jaw drops to the floor. She looks so pissed off. Look at me. I know you're going to go right out there while you're eating
Starting point is 01:25:40 your peanut butter and you're going to try and what, what do you see? Get on the microphone so we can hear you dummy. I can't hear you. You're not on the microphone. We made them not want to get married. That's fine. She can't take a joke. I mean, she really looked horrified. She really did. I know she really looks like she's upset as if we were there at the dinner table conversation and then put it out on the internet for everyone to see. It's like, no, no, you're doing a show on YouTube that you're actively promoting. And that's why people know about it.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Is Mike Kelsa a mean guy? I mean, it's kind of a mean she's, he has to know more than we already know how not cut out. She is for any criticism. She's not going to be the cohost of a podcast. She is not prepared for this stuff at all. So is he a mean guy? No, but doesn't everyone want to get back at their wife from time to time.
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Starting point is 01:27:50 And he says, I could play a winter skinner without looking at the fretboard here. Watch what the fuck is wrong with you? Guitar. What does it sound like when he's Trump? Does anyone know? No producer Chris. Sorry. All right. The guitar chord heard around the world. So then in the next frame of this cartoon, the guitar responds to John. It says, give your balls a tug. Mr. Tonight show. I'm fine. You're the dipshit with no talent. You fucking jabroni. Why don't you go teach another figure painting class down at the learning edX. You never was. So the guitar is very upset that John's dragging is good name through. That's great art to call this. It's fantastic art. I just wanted to show that off for everyone. Thank
Starting point is 01:28:35 you. The guitar is perspective. A lot of people did. That's why Brad Wilson artist, you know, he thinks about things like that. John started the show yesterday. My brother and I were coming in from the airport to beautiful Ferndale. Was his hair okay at the beginning or did he have to fix it? Oh, Drew, his hair is fine. That's not the problem. But I was watching this during our cab ride and don't worry, I sped this up because this is a lot of dead air.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Don't cross the Duke. Everybody knows that. All right. So he's chewing, he's eating something, his green screen's not centered. I'm going four times speed. He gets up, he walks away. Again, this is four times speed. This is how he starts his show. Maybe his hair wasn't okay. Completely unprepared. Yeah. Maybe that's what he's doing Because he's still not back in his chair yet. He seems to not give a fuck I Can't imagine less effort be put into anything in life. Do what John is doing here. What is going on? Oh, he's back Fixes green he did fix his hair. He did. Oh that must be what it is smacks his lips. Now he's typing something to someone, probably sending the link out one finger. Yep. Oh, nothing like
Starting point is 01:29:51 taking a giant bite right as your intro is ending. There are you everybody. So there you go. Five and a half minutes in. He finally says, how are you everybody? And the lip smacking he's doing is on purpose. It's to annoy people. Let's go back and look at his hair. I think you're right, Drew. Let's see here. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. He definitely fixes hair by the time he came back. Cause it was wet and greasy. It looked like he had just put his fingers through it before. Yeah. And he just hasn't looked at himself in a while. That's the first time he looks at himself when he starts up his stream. Yeah. Maybe the first time of the day. Yes. Definitely the first time of the day. So guys, are you
Starting point is 01:30:29 ready for the big announcement? Yeah. This is a big one guys. We've never heard John say this before. So big announcement today. As of December 31st, the Duke is gone. And I know it's going to be hard for you to handle this without me, but at some point, you know, you just got to say, fuck it because it's just gotten too toxic. toxic shot is pulling up the light flag and surrendering December 31st is his last show. And if he hadn't threatened this five or six times since the last time he left, I might take it a little bit seriously, but it's very hard to take seriously. Is there a significance of just the end of the year? He's just going to wrap up 2024 and that's it?
Starting point is 01:31:25 Well, that's a good question. We're going to hear a voicemail from Gary in San Diego who says, why not just make today your last day, John? Today's the 13th. I want to just call it right now. But I think he needs money for Christmas presents and to pay off the debt that he owes Vince, which he'll never pay. That's always the problem, though, is that he has no other income.
Starting point is 01:31:47 He needs this income desperately, right? We're going to get into that because Clay Dabler asks him that question, which is great to hear his answer on that. And actually, let's get into why he's finally fed up. It's enough. He can't take the dabble verse anymore too much harassment and Apparently, I don't know if you guys know about this, but he had some visitors show up to his house on Wednesday
Starting point is 01:32:16 Oh Now Tuesday morning. He had court. He had a zoom call Cardiff electric was there and court. He had a zoom call. Cardiff electric was there and reported on Twitter that John's an elementary school teacher because he did it from his classroom. So Tuesday, John comes on and says, Cardiff outed me, but it doesn't matter. I quit anyway. My last day is next Wednesday. So you guys can try to fuck with my job. It doesn't matter. And then the next day, Wednesday, he comes home and he's greeted by some unwanted visitors and Vince the lawyer was on his show talking to him about this. You can tell John doesn't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:32:55 So why are we dancing around the cat thing? Vince, there are some things that I want to talk about. Okay, I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it. I mean, that's kind of lame, tame. I've had the cops at my house, John, with my kids. So when they see cops, they still have this fear because high-pitched and the people would call them to my apartment so that they come up the stairs, up the elevator, and to my house.
Starting point is 01:33:17 But they were doing a check on me. So when you get the wellness check that happens once, it's hard to explain to someone that you're normal when you're really not, but that you're not psycho or wanting to harm yourself. So for a cat it wouldn't be a big deal. For a cat? What are you talking about? I'm blanking on this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:38 This guy is fucking amazing. I don't even know what I don't. It's amazing to me. I don't know what he's talking about. Obviously I could tell you don't know what he's talking about. Just because he's like, what are you talking? I don't know what you mean. And Vince, it's rolling his eyes. Like, we're going to play that game. Was there a wellness check for John's cat? Someone saying that he's not taking care of his cat and calling. There sure was. Oh, there sure was drew. And so John told this to Vince in private because John's an idiot who never learns from his mistakes. Not realizing that Vince couldn't
Starting point is 01:34:14 wait to talk about this with him on the show. Because anything I tell him becomes father for this fucking, this fucking guy. It's amazing. All he wants to do is troll me now because somebody super chat me, tell me get rid of Vince or keep Vince please because I can't deal with this. So he has to turn that into a grip. Yes. You guys make the call. We should do with our next guest super chat. He can't just read comments in the chat or just make the decision himself whether or not he can to have Vince on the show. So he's always turning everything into a money making scheme, good on him.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And so he brings Vince back on the show and explains to Vince why he should not have spilled the beans about this. Hi Vince. I thought we were going to be able to talk about that issue. Okay Vince, now you broke me. I didn't want to talk about it. You know you tell me things and I keep them most of it in confidence. I did not want to talk about it. Why do I want to give people the ability, why the fuck would you want to empower people who harass people? I can tell you the answer to that, John.
Starting point is 01:35:30 No one harasses people more than VTM. Why would you want people harassing me? He's harassing you more than all of us combined. No one's suing you for $12.5 million and forcing themselves on their show and clowning you to your face without your knowledge. And John's is like, I thought we were friends. You betrayed me for the last time. Like really? You're, you didn't know that's what was going on this entire time. Isn't Vince the other reason he can't quit December 31st? Isn't he pushed his whole debt to Vince into next year? Well, December 26 is the day that he owes him his first payment
Starting point is 01:36:04 from what I've heard, but I don't think that's going to happen. I highly doubt that's going to happen. But yet John is getting very upset with Vince betraying him. You're not funny. You're not a comedian. Stop it and stop betraying me. You have no, if I tell you something in private, you keep fucking mouth. All right. I didn't know Stop betraying me Betraying me already cheese People just takes once
Starting point is 01:36:42 Stop telling him things. You don't want everyone to know It's I guess so many text messages from Vince and they're mostly screenshots of messages between John and Vince Why are you betraying me? That's all he does all day long. How do you not figure this out? It's fun. He has a good time with it. It is up to John. He can make this stop by simply not telling him things he doesn't want known.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Done. John's in between a rock and a hard place because he needs Vince. He wants Vince to release him from this debt. So he wants Vince to be his friend. He's like, come on, we're friends. Friends don't give each other money for debts that they owe. They let it go. And all the one that has more money, let's go with the debt. Cause he has more money. Yeah. If you have more money than me, then I don't have to pay you any money. That's
Starting point is 01:37:34 how that works. So he wants to keep Vince close for that reason or else he has no excuse to not pay the debt off. But then he also doesn't have any other friends. So there's that as well. So he's got to kind of like pick his battles with Vince. But then he also doesn't have any other friends. So there's that as well. So he's got to kind of like pick his battles with Vince. But finally we get into what really happened with this welfare check. You know what really happened? Yeah. I want to know. That's the interesting part. Yeah. I know it's interesting, but it's funny. I like that Vince has to explain to him, yeah, I'm trying to make your show interesting. And he's like, I know I should be more interesting and points.
Starting point is 01:38:10 So Maureen goes, John, just do your show. I'll handle this. Who's Maureen? Does he have a cleaning person? Is Maureen a friend from the bar that helps them out? Anyway, so there's some Maureen over there who says that she's going to handle this for him. He can just go do a show because they showed up like right around like five o'clock on Wednesday or something like that.
Starting point is 01:38:31 She's some Yahoo. That's probably just met John. And so he's just started bossing her around until she gets bummed out. Yes. She doesn't know any better yet. Yeah. That what he always does. He always cycles through these new relationships.
Starting point is 01:38:44 She's an old Howard Stern fan probably And I fucking and I read the guy to fucking riot act I Fuck him in ballistic. I go you motherfuckers. I go I rescue fucking two fucking cats from my goddamn kids Then and then you know and then you believe some anonymous asshole. I mean, it's amazing. So, you know, so I'm doing all the right things and you get punished for it. So what happens on the phone before they came and it was funny because when you text me, I bet you well range in better shape than the copy.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Yes. Screen grab. I know I had a pause right there. So he just said it was a cop that came over. You heard him say better shape than the cop. The fat fuck cop that came over. Also, John is always on the offensive. It sounds like they come over to check on the cats and he's just like, Oh, you're going to check out my kids after I saved them for my kids. Do you even care about my kids who love these cats? It was like, yeah. Okay. Sir. Where are the cats? Can we, can we see these cats please? And a last clip and then I'll get into yesterday's show where he addresses this as he's talking
Starting point is 01:39:59 to Vince and he wants them to make up at some point. But again, you know, this is the harassment Vince. And this is where, when you are allowed to represent me at some point, there are people that I'm going to want to sue. So you look forward to that. More failed lawsuits with your friend, John Edward Moletus. I have some work for you. Is, is this Cardiff action going to come up? Yes. We're going to, we're going to talk about that. Let me just finish up with the animal welfare stuff because this gets brought up
Starting point is 01:40:35 by a, by clay. So he addresses it on a show just yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, it's bad enough, you know, them calling animal, you know, domestic services on me, you know, it's bad enough that even though everybody knows I'm an animal lover just like yourself. Not a good thing to say to Rob Saul. I'm an animal lover just like you are. Whoa, then let's get these cats out of here. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Driving across the country with two cats loose in a car. He told the story that one of the cats got underneath the brake and the gas pedal. That's on the expressway. It's not great. It's an animal owner. Hey, I had cruise control. It's okay. That's not safe at all.
Starting point is 01:41:21 So let's find out what the consequences were for this visit that he got for the animal welfare check. So did you get a fine yesterday from that animal's ship? No. They're saying you got a fine, you were fined money? How much? I don't know, $60? Why is he asking them?
Starting point is 01:41:39 No, why? It's a number I heard. That's just what they're saying. John is an incredibly bad liar. He's getting worse and worse and his tells are so obvious. So watch his response again. And then we'll get there eventually. How much? I don't know. $60. No, why? It's a number I heard. It's just what they're saying. What shit. Why I was saying, I thought he said that was $400. I don't even know. Maybe it was 400. I thought I had 60. Oh really? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Well you didn't get fined. I don't, I mean I, I didn't deal with them because I was doing the show. So I got, I got a check. Days later, here's what he got fined or not. Marine hasn't invoiced me for that yet. So I don't know. And you hear how he only stutters when he's picking up lies. The person that dealt with it didn't inform him. He's not sure yet. He hasn't figured it all out because he's buying his brain time. It means a lot of it to come up with something. You didn't get fined.
Starting point is 01:42:46 I don't, I mean, I didn't deal with them because I was doing the show. So I got to, I got to check. I mean, you know, if I got it, I got to ask, uh, I got to ask. McLean is, they ain't going to pay you to fine on it. Why are you paying them so much money? They could probably afford it. And even if it was, even, I did I mean it's It's enough. I mean who cares about 60 bucks
Starting point is 01:43:15 No, where'd you hear that is that John accepting Shulie's number or yeah, I don't know I was so at 60 bucks And what does he he playing pain cleaners dan say you're paying the cleaner so much they could pay it that must be a conversation they've had privately yeah all these cleaners charging too much which by the way if i'm a professional clear i go to john's house
Starting point is 01:43:37 i'm double your triple my rate because they had rather not do it i don't like it yeah i don't think leaders but i'm going to do it, I'm going to get my money's worth. But he can't pay Vince the lawyer yet he's paying cleaners to clean his house. Oh, he will not pay Vince the lawyer. He is. He's got more money than me. He's avoiding that at all costs. He owed him back in October, didn't pay, in November, didn't pay. Loans in December, definitely won't pay.
Starting point is 01:44:01 I guess with John, it's just that I'm a star from the Howard Stern show, the Cramadol Jabbar roast, the Tonight Show. I deserve to have from the Howard Stern show, the Cramadol Jabbar Rose, the Tonight Show. I deserve to have my house cleaned. It doesn't matter what his budget is. Correct. Yeah. John's been living...
Starting point is 01:44:13 I think he really thinks that way. Well, also it didn't help. I think John is a narcissist and always has been, but it doesn't help that you're on the biggest show in New York City and everyone wants to do you favors. Everyone wants to get in with the Howard Stern show. That's where VTM comes from. Vince's whole thing is he just wanted to get close to the Howard Stern show. So we started doing favors for high pitch Eric and take him to Yankees games and just doing things with high pitcher. Anyone's connected to the show possible so he could somehow be a part of it. And John experienced that as much as anyone, especially back then when the show was only five or six people and John was one of the guys that people knew about
Starting point is 01:44:51 So now he just expects the rest of his life is gonna be like that who want to do him favors They want to get close to John and it is amazing that there are people it seems There are still people who will do anything for him for a certain amount of time I mean until he wears them out. He wears them out, yes. And also, I think people, when they want a friendship with someone that they know from the radio or something like that, they're hoping it's a friendship and not just a one-way street.
Starting point is 01:45:18 And a lot of times, you can become friends with people who are listeners or admirers or something like that. It's not a big deal to do so. You have a lot of common interests. It makes sense. But John doesn't know how to be friends with people who are listeners or admirers or something like that. It's not a big deal to do so. You have a lot of common interests, it makes sense. But John doesn't know how to be friends with people. He just knows how to use them. Right. He's superior to them because he was on the Howard Stern Show. He already looks down at them because they know who he is and he doesn't know who they are. Yeah, he's famous, they aren't. Yes. And that's the way he looks at everyone in life. So he sees Kevin Brennan, he goes, all right, he was on SNL. He's been
Starting point is 01:45:45 on some stuff. He might be my equal. So Kevin Brennan, I'll give this amount of respect to and a, you know, surely he really hates surely cause surely also spent a lot of time on the Howard Stern show. He wasn't on the tonight show. He wasn't on the tonight show. He never turned it into the criminal bar roast either. No, no, he definitely did that. So as I mentioned, Cardiff electric was the one who somehow found the zoom link. He's a master troll. And so he was there as Cardiff electric. John saw him like, shit, he's here in my, my courtroom.
Starting point is 01:46:16 And so this is not going to be good for Cardiff. And then we'll get to potato. This is the best. I, I, I just watched him a little bit last night because he was trying to play this video and I couldn't wait because at this point, well not really, I want to keep the kids safe, but at this point he has no idea what's coming down the pike. I mean that's a felony here in the United States. Now I know you're in Canada, but it doesn't matter. It actually does matter quite a bit. Is Zephanie endangering second graders?
Starting point is 01:46:47 That's a great question. By recording a Zoom? That's a great question because John is hoping that he shows these second graders from his classroom so the carnival get in trouble. They catch themselves like, I mean, I'm not hoping for that. That'd be horrible. That's all right. Don't want that to happen.
Starting point is 01:47:02 But isn't John showing them? Well, John didn't know that the zoom meeting was going to have anyone from the dabble first end. And of course, but yes, he was showing them. He shouldn't have been doing that from his classroom. Yeah, no, it's not okay to zoom for court from a second grade class. I don't care if you're a sub or a regular teacher. Definitely not. It's definitely not a good move.
Starting point is 01:47:23 And I don't know if anyone watched Cardiff show potato soup on Thursday night, but Cardiff, care if you're sub or regular. Definitely not. It's definitely not a good move. And I don't know if anyone watched Cardiff show potato soup on Thursday night, but Cardiff, what he did, which I thought was brilliant. Some people were annoyed. I knew, I knew kind of wasn't going to show any of the zoom video is he did, you know, familiar with like the courtroom sketch artist. Oh yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 01:47:43 So Cardiff drew some pictures of what he saw on this zoom call. They're a little crude, the world's greatest artists. But you know, we, he showed like the little girl came by on a stick figure who had her word search out, was looking for cello and he showed the other different dynamics that were happening. I think he had like 14 different pictures that he drew for us. Did you hear your dumb fuck? Look for the sea, you see. So unfortunately for Cardiff, bad things are going to happen. And it's been reported and they're not happy.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I've already heard from my cop friend, the judge is not happy. The violation against him as well. He heard from his cop friend, the judge is not happy. There was a floating potato at a traffic court. It's been reported as if he didn't report it. If anyone reported, he did. Of course he did. He was on the phone. He said, he said he called the police department and the courthouse both to report Cardiff and he goes and I gave him the name Cardiff electric I mean look at all the time all the people whose time is being wasted they can't possibly give a fuck
Starting point is 01:48:57 Can they judge is not happy? I'll be teaching you kids civics today Chad's earmite says, I'll be teaching you kids civics today. He knows nothing. No, if somebody does something you don't like, you report them to the FBI immediately. They'll take care of it. I would think the judge would just be like, what? Yeah. Why would anyone do that? And I care. I've got a full docket. What's that? If, if Cardiff recorded it, we don't know if he did or not, but if he did, he hasn't posted anywhere.
Starting point is 01:49:27 There's no stills of it. There's no video of it. So I can't imagine there's any type of crime he committed by showing up to a zoom call that probably is open to the public because he got it off the internet. Oh, so Cardiff did not show it at all. No, he's not showing anything. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, and he's still in big trouble though.
Starting point is 01:49:45 He still reported them and it's a felony. It doesn't matter that Cardiff doesn't live in the United States. Now, can John prove that he reported it? That he recorded it? Is there some? There's definitely not. In fact, I'm not even sure if Cardiff- This judge must be so annoyed by this. I'm not even sure if Cardiff claimed he recorded it. And the cops. I don't think he did. I don't think Cardiff even said he did record it.
Starting point is 01:50:04 How does John, why does John think this? I don't think he did. I don't think Carter even said he did record. I think why does John think this? Because Carter tweeted that I was in the zoom call and I saw John in his second grade classroom. So John assumes that this is going to get out to be very embarrassing for him. What was John in court for? His registration, his car wasn't registered in Florida, even though he has a Florida license. And he got a ticket? And he got a ticket.
Starting point is 01:50:28 So he got his car registered within 30 days. All he had to do was pay a $10 court fee. But that was- You took a court for that? Yeah. Okay. To clear it up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:50:40 If he wanted to just pay the ticket, I'm sure you don't have to go to court for that, but he wanted to- Oh, court, yeah. He can't afford that to go to court for that, but he wanted to. Oh, of course. Yeah. He can't afford to send to right and clear it up. But he also couldn't take the day off of work to do it for some reason. He had to do it from his classroom. No, you would be unavailable to sub the day you have to go to court.
Starting point is 01:50:55 But he just thinks I'll just do both at once. No regular teachers would get a sub if they had to go to court. Yes. You're an idiot. I'll just do court from the classroom. You also don't want people at school knowing that you went to court for anything, especially while you're teaching. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:13 We gave the kids all these dittos. These people made fun of me for using the word ditto. Didn't you use dittos in school when you were growing up? Yeah, we did. Yeah. So we gave them all these like word searches with musical instruments and they had to write down their favorite three musical instruments or write a sentence about why they liked it or something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:30 He was giving examples of banjo has five strings. You know, it's really just some fake assignments until time in court, just busy work. And he told the kids, don't get out of your chairs. I have to take care of something. And a couple of the kids walked over to him like Mr. Melendez, I can't find this thing or what do you want us to do? The fuck out of here. The school knows this. Does the school know this happened? Okay. This is the thing. The school is not going to like this at all. He claims he cleared it with the principal. Well, not the principal, but
Starting point is 01:51:58 the assistant principal who told the principal so the principal knew. And actually they're the ones that printed out the dittos for me. This is what John claims. But there's a lot of speculation. We're going to see some clips coming up here that maybe the reason why John's going to no longer be substitute teaching is not because he resigned, but because they fired him because he was in court during this, because it's odd that he got, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, John has only had this job for a few weeks. He got his first paycheck and said he put in his notice immediately because it wasn't enough money, because he's worth more money than that. I see.
Starting point is 01:52:34 So he knew how much he's being paid hourly, but he didn't know how to add up how much that would be in a pay period. I don't even know if he knew how much he was being paid hourly. I don't know if he assumed he was going to get paid the same as he got paid in California, but who knows if any of this is true. He could have just gotten fired already. I'm having a real hard time believing the assistant principal who told the principal that this was okay, because they're second graders.
Starting point is 01:52:57 They're small. They're unpredictable. Right. You don't want a teacher in court who is in charge of 30 second graders. There's no way they want that. Of course not. They'd say, no, don't sub that day. Right. Of course. Oh yeah, combine them. Just go to court while you're teaching class. That's fine. And obviously he didn't have a TA in there. If he did, then they could manage the class and proctor them doing their word search. So it's
Starting point is 01:53:22 just John with these kids. And all right, let's get back to John, that big announcement, he's leaving the devil verse. December 31st is his last show. Oh, he did say he will come back, not anytime soon, but he will come back with a political show. And he's got a great name for his new political show. That always monetizes really well too.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Oh yeah, that'll be great. He's got a new name for his political show. It's gonna be called Talking Politics with Stuttering John. How'd you come up with that? Good stuff, John. And this is the guy who's running his one man show and he claims that he's able to craft jokes, so he's the lead guy to come up with a good title.
Starting point is 01:54:00 What do we, are we gonna learn more about the one man show? Not in this segment. Not today, okay. Not today. Okay. No, but we can speculate if you want. I'm excited about it. This is going to be like, he thinks this is like a Mike Tyson's thing. Mike Tyson did the one man show.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Except Mike Tyson was the heavyweight champion of the world who made what, half a billion dollars and lost a billion dollars and got rich again. I mean, that's a compelling story. Has led an amazingly interesting life, yes. Right. John thinks he's going to do a one-man show and it's going to be on Broadway or somewhere. I mean, he thinks it's a big deal. There's a tonight show. I'm not even sure. It's at Universal Orlando or Disney World or something. But there's a tonight show. He calls it a museum. It can't be a museum. But there's a Tonight Show, he calls it a museum, it can't be a museum.
Starting point is 01:54:46 But there's a ride or some type of exhibit. It's about the Tonight Show. And he's not mentioned anywhere. His name doesn't exist there. Why would it be? Exactly. He didn't matter on that show. No.
Starting point is 01:55:01 And John's whole thing is like, I had the most interesting life ever. I was an intern slash call screener on the Howard Stern show that would get ragged on when I came into the studio. And then I went on to be the announcer for a little while until they realized I sucked. And then they just put me in the back room with the writers to entertain them. And sometimes they'd bring me out and humiliate me. But what about the US arm wrestling championship? Would that make the one man show? Hold on. That was the pro football arm wrestling championship,
Starting point is 01:55:30 which I believe the people involved in it got in a lot of trouble with the NFL for even being a part of it. Cause they're just like, you can't do shit like this. It's, it's in your contract. You can't be representing pro football and something like this. Like that's one man show worthy. I don't think so. I'm not sure the Crabdool Jabbar roast is one man show worthy either.
Starting point is 01:55:50 No, I don't think so. All right, so this is him talking about not coming back. I'm gonna be gone. And you're not gonna have the Duke to kick around anymore. You're gonna be left with, and you know, and I know what you're all saying. Oh, he's coming back. This is bullshit. No, it ain't. This is not bullshit.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Last time I left, I left for eight months. That's not true. And only came back. Last time he left, he left for eight months. That's not true. And only last time he left, he left for a week and it was because his channel got suspended. Didn't he leave once for a couple of days? Yeah. He's up for a couple of days before he actually liked that one time he left for his full time substitute teaching job is an example of how he'll just leave everything behind. There's been so many times since then that he said he's going to leave and he leaves for a short time or he doesn just leave everything behind. There's been so many times since then that he said he's gonna leave
Starting point is 01:56:45 and he leaves for a short time or he doesn't leave at all. He's just right back there. And only came back. And who's to say one day, two or three months down the line, I won't put out there, give me two Gs and I'll come and do your show. Give me three Gs, I think that was the going rate.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Who's to say I won't do that? Maybe I will. So John's already thought up this grand scheme. He's like, look, I have people coming over my house to harass me about my cats. People are showing up in my Zoom court meetings. I'm trying to teach a classroom and keep that I'm a substitute teacher under reps. This is getting annoying. So I got an idea.
Starting point is 01:57:23 What if I go back to just going on Kevin Brennan show for $3,000 at a time? Cause then I don't have to read $2 super chats insulting me and my family. I can just make a whole big sum of money just for a short amount of time. By leaving the dabble horse of my value. That's what he thinks. What's that producer Chris? He said that was the going rate. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:43 The going rate. Let's remember what happened to John the week he returned to the dabble verse. He went on Kevin Brennan show for $3,000. Then he went on Chad Zumach show twice. I think about 600 a piece for those appearances. That was 1200. Then he tried to go on Opie show. Opie offered him a six pack.
Starting point is 01:58:01 John asked for a case and Opie declined. Yeah. The going rate goes down. That's a down going rate. So these were three grand anymore. His brags have really gone down. It used to be, you know, some of the Howard Stern show, the night show, the criminal Jibarro's and then it's the U S wrestling thing.
Starting point is 01:58:22 And then it gets to like a, I made $400 today to I have electricity We're giving away key chains The brads are so lame now, but he thinks Normal day-to-day things that you and I do and don't think twice about are impressive when he does them I ace the teacher certificate thing Remember that they say aced it. Yeah.. Oh yeah. He aced it. The sea best, which is just a pass or fail tasks. There's, they don't come back and be like, this was a really good score on this sea bus, John. Wow. Very impressive. Pass fail. Isn't
Starting point is 01:58:55 it? It's pass, fail. Yeah. This one man show sounds, I would love to see this one man show. He said that he's already cranking on it and that he's the reason why he's leaving teaching is to focus on writing this one man show. Who the hell would show up for that? Oh no, I would too. I'm pretty sure we could pack a theater. The dabble. Yeah, the dabble.
Starting point is 01:59:18 I'm pretty sure we could. Now this could actually, this could actually turn into into and I don't want to get ahead of myself But Tommy was so still tours around the country With showing the room and doing Q&A afterwards because he finally leaned into the fact that he sucks and it sucked And if John realizes he puts together one man show and everyone just goes there to ridicule him. I think at Broadway I don't know. There could be no limit to this a one man show, I mean, it's got to have a run of like six weeks or the place. It's starting to pick up some momentum. I think one man, one night only show. One man, one off.
Starting point is 01:59:57 That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. You could be right about that. But I guess you can charge a lot if you, if you had, you know, a 500 seeder and he charged a hundred bucks, he could make some money fast. Or, you know, we had some pretty good luck streaming Debel Con too. If he wants to do this at, I know we've had problems before, but if he wants to do this show at a, uh, come meet the Carlson, I could get Vinnie Paulino to set up some cameras and get a stream going. I mean, he'd be happy to enter national viewers on that.
Starting point is 02:00:24 People would be watching from Australia. The list goes on. This is John complaining to Clay Dabler. He comes on the show because Cardiff goes, John, the reason why we're exposing you is because you had a lie. You lied that you're in an ad agency. You lied that you're in the Amazon warehouse. He wanted to expose them to show that he's substitute teaching
Starting point is 02:00:45 again. Like why wouldn't we said this on the last show? If John just came out and said, guys, I'm substitute teaching again. We'd be like, okay, cause he's done it before. It wouldn't be, we wouldn't be like, what? Wow. It's great. Okay. Whatever. But he had a lie about it. He's running Superbowl ads too. Yeah. He's writing a Superbowl ad for Pepsi. I made $400 today. At the end. So yeah, he's constantly lying. They paid him daily. So Cardiff goes, well, that's why I did this to show that John's lying all the time. So then John goes, well, you know, he's
Starting point is 02:01:08 really lying. And he's talking to Clay Dabler here. Cardiff, his rationale is because I lie all the time. Clay. I mean, here's a guy who lies about his identity every single day. He gets on his show, but yet I'm a liar. Now he's talking to the wrong audience about this. Clay Dabler's name is not actually Clay Dabler in real life. And he's wearing a mask. And he's like, can you believe this asshole doesn't even tell her what his real identity and show his face? And Clay's like, yeah. Do not picking up on what's going on right now.
Starting point is 02:01:40 That's a different kind of lie. It's not a lie. It's not a lie. Yeah. It's just maintaining your anonymity. Yeah. Thank you for finishing that for me. You're welcome. Appreciate it. All right. So this is John talking about, now he told us before that he had already resigned and his last day was Wednesday the 18th. And now all of a sudden he's writing his resignation letter. I mean, I'm sorry. I told the school that I was done after this Wednesday. Notice the stuttering and stammering.
Starting point is 02:02:11 John doesn't do this when he's not lying. This is all a lie. I mean, I'm sorry. I told the school that I was done after this Wednesday. Right. But I hadn't formally resigned until I talked to them when that fucking fat fuck dog, that guy was here. What?
Starting point is 02:02:34 I'm confused. I am too. None of this is adding up. The timeline doesn't make any sense. And now he's writing a formal resignation letter as a substitute teacher. A substitute teacher can say no at any time. They call you up and they go, Hey, can you teach today? No. Yeah. You don't retire from teaching. You don't resign.
Starting point is 02:02:51 You don't retire. None of that makes sense. And I was for some dumb reason believing him that he saw his paycheck and went fuck this and told the school he wasn't going to teach anymore. But now the more he talks about it, I'm thinking they were like, you got to go. Cause I was pretending he's writing a resignation letter. And with the school, would the school know that he was in court in the classroom from Cardiff? Oh, cause he tweeted it. He told the school that Cardiff was there, but they must've figured it out before that. I don't know that the kids told them or what was going on because he was in that courtroom for a long time.
Starting point is 02:03:28 The period ended and then he was in his time between periods and he was still in that court. Zoom court. I think he got in trouble with the school. Yeah, that you can't do that. That would be my guess on it. But it's funny that he acts as if the school would be so angry that Cardiff recorded him being in court as opposed to him being in court. Listen, the federal government's going to come down on you. The principal, the assistant principal, get a lot of trouble potato. Do we know why the cat people, whatever, the cat police came to his house?
Starting point is 02:04:02 Do we have an idea? Someone called it in. I don't know who. Okay. Kind of a dick move. We know what they said. It's a giant dick move. people, whatever, the cat police came to his house. Do we have an idea? Someone called it in. I don't know who. Okay. Kind of a dick move. We know what they said. It's a giant dick move.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Well, they must have explained to him, yeah, I see this guy and the state of his living conditions and I know he owns two cats. They're living in filth. I'm worried about them. And you know, it's swatting. You see it happen to a lot of these streamers and stuff and it's, it's nonsense. No one should do that. And I would also be annoyed if people were coming to my house to check on my wife who's
Starting point is 02:04:30 in the cage in the basement this weekend. I don't want her getting out of anywhere. No, that sucks. I, the only, I mean, the obvious move is to do a one man show. Yes. That is the obvious move. All right. So John has a new rule on his show about super chats.
Starting point is 02:04:46 You saw it scrolling on there earlier. He won't read any super chats under 4.99. You have to give him $5 in order to get your super chat read. Clay has a problem with this. Don't snub the $2 chats, Johnny boy. I told you. I mean, it up! Alright, shut up! Don't tell me how to run my show! Have a little respect! Don't tell me ever how to run my show! What do you want? I'm giving you advice, John. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:05:16 I don't agree with it. I'm not going to sit here and read $1.99 super chats that are going to take shots at me. Not happening. You've been doing it for years. And all of a sudden it's just like, oh, you think I'm going to read insults at $1.99 cents at a time? Yeah. I'll read $5 ones.
Starting point is 02:05:34 You're going to sell my family for $4.99. He has to save up for the period while he's writing his one man show and upping his value when he comes back for $3,000. I tell you from my observation, it looks like he was getting way fewer super chats by not reading the $2 super chats. Yeah. You think usually you see a lot of those super chats coming in. I saw people just go back and like, fuck it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 02:05:54 I'm not going to kick it the other three bucks for it. So how long till he admits clay dabblers was right? Oh, he'll never admit clay dabler was right. He'll just start reading. In fact, if he starts reading me and clay says, Oh, I'm glad you're doing that. He'll come with a reason why he thought of it. And you know, I had nothing to do with that. That's John's personality. Just a few more clips on here. John gets beer delivered to his house and it's already paid for and John loves free beer, but there's a problem with this one, unfortunately. Oh, Vince is angry. He's saying he's doing passive aggressive shit now.
Starting point is 02:06:31 You seem to I didn't tell you to order it. Don't fucking blame me. I'm doing a show. You're trying to disrupt my show. So fuck you. I don't know. I don't have my driver's license. So there's nothing I can do about it Okay, so what just happened and I just paused it We'll get back to the rest of this is the beer shows up. It's paid for and John can't find his driver's license So now he's mad for the beer being sent there that he couldn't collect without the driver's license I wish I could have recorded him talking to the delivery person, but Clay was rambling on, Clay shut up when John's at the door. I want to crank up the
Starting point is 02:07:10 audio and play that. And so John couldn't find his license, so they asked to go back to the store. So there's an extra fee given to Vince the lawyer who ordered it for him. So now Vince has complained to John, hey asshole, I got to pay extra money now that you sent it back. And so Clay, like a man does, explains, here's a solution to that problem so it doesn't happen again. John doesn't want to hear it. They're turning down free beer. I don't have my driver's license. I don't know where I put it.
Starting point is 02:07:37 I'm not going to be looking around for it for the next half hour. Didn't you get one of those things where you whistle and it tells you where your wallet is? That's exactly. Oh, okay. So you think there's a solution to this problem? Is that what you're telling me? Because I don't give a fuck about solutions. There's no solution unless I think of it.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Right. Yes. It's like, it's like a woman. It's like, I wasn't looking for you to tell me how to fix it. I just wanted a sympathetic ear. Yeah. I just wanted you to feel bad. And John's not, doesn't live in a big house. How does he lose his driver's license? It's not in the two guest rooms in your wallet. It's in, it's either in the kitchen, the main room or your bedroom
Starting point is 02:08:19 or the bathroom or where he left it. Cutting up lines. It'll take me a half hour. It's probably where it is. Good point. You can think of that. Is it possible that he lost his license for some reason? Oh. Legally lost it. That's interesting.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Oh, he's saying he can't find it. Do they really have to idea, and this is Florida, they really have to idea a 60 year old guy to give him beer? That's silly. No, it him beer. That's silly. No, it's stupid. It's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. All right, Drew, I think you're going to like this.
Starting point is 02:08:50 This is a visual, but someone put together this new AI software and John doesn't get it at first. This is wild. Sal and Mike, who did you say was gay? So there's Shulian high pitch. That's a lie. There's me and John. Oh, you're going to kiss. Oh, no. I love John's response to me kissing him. He goes, oh, I'm going to kiss you.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm going to kiss you. Oh, I'm gonna kiss. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. As if it's actually happening. Oh, my God. That's great. Is that funny? Like I turned all the way around. He's in the back of my head.
Starting point is 02:09:42 And I crushed John. By his face and really give it to him. Oh, you're going to kiss. Oh, look at how much tinier he is. Such a little door. Oh, it's great Watch Where to watch that day I Could sell that Although you know what I noticed the photo of me is just from
Starting point is 02:10:27 Like the breastplate up and then I had a watch on So I guess maybe the AI adds a watch on people's arms if it's cut off. Cause John's just like, I own a watch? That's awesome. That's his takeaway. Of course he's fascinated by all things John. He's looking at himself. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:42 Like the funniest video. I loved your reaction to it just now. And John's just like, oh, I knew he was gay. Oh wait. Oh, this isn't real. And then, oh, that's a nice watch I'm wearing. Just missing the point all the time. At the end of this episode from yesterday, grifting John comes out. The Beggy Monster comes out. It's such a great game. Let me thank you, generous super chats. I'm at 47. Come on guys. Three more and I'm at 47. Come on guys, three more and I'm at 50. I like even numbers. Oh, I got to 47 and that's 11.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Let's see. Thank you to my brother, Grant, for watching this whole episode today and finding some of these clips all the way to the end there where John's going, guys, you got to give me three more super chats. I want to get to 50. He's like, 51 is also good. I'm going to get to 50. watching this whole episode today and finding some of these clips all the way to the end there where John's going, guys, you got to give me three more super chats. I want to get to 50. He's like, 51 is also good too. So I guess odd numbers can be all right. In
Starting point is 02:11:32 fact, come to think of it, 67 is even better. So there's a lot of odd numbers that are better than 50. Now I think about it. What a ridiculous thing to say. I want to, yeah, I got 47, not a dollar amount, just a number of super chest 47. That's my OCD. Right. He's going to pretend it's his OCD. I saved one clip here at the end for you, Drew, because Clay Dabler is actually very
Starting point is 02:11:54 talented. He does some really good work. He makes these clay figures. That's how we first knew about Clay Dabler. He was making all these clay figures of people who are in the dabble verse. And he's working on a new one that I think is going to be a hit. John, are you friends with Corey Feldman? Yeah. You know him, right? Do you know how amazing that would be if you got him on the show? You should really reach out to him because you know, Corey Feldman has his own dabble verse,
Starting point is 02:12:20 but it's the Corey Feldman verse. Yeah, yeah, yeah me. He's much more of a low cowden than I would say you are I'm making Corey Feldman now Wow I'm making Corey Feldman now. I don't know how well you see it. That's also a stand. Wow. You can't see much. Yeah, but you should show it to him. I can. Oh yeah. If you send me a picture, I'll fucking send it to him. Well, I'll finish it this weekend and then I'll probably tag him. That was my favorite part. Jack goes, I know Corey Feldman. I'll email him the photo and Clay Nevers. I'll just tag him in a tweet. That's fine. More likely he'll see that. He even got the hair tendrils. The perfect tendrils. Isn't that great? It's good work.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Yeah, that's good. He goes, he's even more of a wolf cow than you are. I was like, I'm not a wolf cow. Yes, you are. Even your friend Clay knows that. Why wouldn't he have Cory Feldman on if he knows Cory Feldman? You heard him say he's reached out to Corey Feldman now whether or not that's true I have a feeling that Corey's just like it pass Although those two that would be an interesting. Oh wow dynamic Guys it's time to play a game. I know we're running long today
Starting point is 02:13:43 I want to thank everyone for hanging with us here in Detroit. Producer Chris back in Rochester being here with us. I think it's time to reward everyone with a treat and that treat is a round of to poke a dabbler from our friend Cardiff. It's time for everyone's favorite new game show. Topo. A Dabbler. Are you ready to play? Topo. A Dabbler.
Starting point is 02:14:16 Ha. Ha ha ha ha. There's my mom. You graduated, you fucking fool. She was at my graduation, you dumb fucks! You don't go to a graduation without a degree! But you can believe the shitware all you want. Or you can believe the goat.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Oh, this is too easy. It's just too fucking easy. Hey, shit-weyer, snaggletooth, what's your next bit gonna be? Hot body 1330, thanks for five bucks. Not saying it's real fake, but don't ask the question. Why would someone fake a drink? Look how you're reacting. That's why someone faked a drink. Oh, okay for five bucks. Not saying it's real or fake, but don't ask the question. Why would someone fake a degree? Look how you're reacting. That's why someone faked a degree.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Oh, okay, hot potty. You know what? Go believe the earth's flat too. Why am I celebrating? Because I've spent the last two weeks being accused of being a liar. Okay? You know how it feels to prove all these assholes wrong? Do you know the exhilaration that you feel? It's the same exhilaration I felt
Starting point is 02:15:42 No I feel when you fucking Know who said his boxing title balance fighting. I didn't realize that was sanctioned When I didn't realize that was for the championship or an arm's length How hard you work and you get people like crazy can't be saying I didn't win and then or he's gonna kick my ass and then I win And I beat his ass. That's the exhilaration. I feel right now Dare you question my integrity I Can get thrown in jail in California if I faked a degree For being a schoolteacher I could be put in jail for
Starting point is 02:16:30 lying about something like that. If I would ever think of even... Oh, so you're saying that's a possibility? You're saying you couldn't lie about having a degree and then become...interesting to realize. Trying to do something as nefarious as that. Funny how you don't question the national community one. You only question NYU because you are so jelly that Stutter and John graduated from one of the best
Starting point is 02:16:55 universities in the land. What did John say next? Here are your choices. The thing that broke the goddamn camel. B. The writing on the wall. Read it and cry, shit-weir. Next. Shit-weir's last stand. And he lost. Four. That drives a little fucking nail in your conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:17:31 And lastly, I have given the final blow. These are all great. Great job, Cardiff, as always. I want to thank Cardiff's not clever enough to come up with four, drive a little nail into your conspiracy. I'm going four, Drew, what say you? I'm going to say shit wears last stand. He lost.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Okay. You're going with next. Brandon. I went with next as well. I don't want to cheat. Okay. And the producer, Chris? I went with four.
Starting point is 02:18:03 Okay. So we got two next two fours. Grant, what do you think? I think the first one you think it's number one thing that broke the camel. All right. People in the chat. I see some fours, a B to change to one. Can I change to one? I want to change the one you want to change to one officially. That's so stupid. That sounds like something you would say. And if, if card have made it up, it's brilliant. I agree.
Starting point is 02:18:27 I agree. So we see some necks, some Bs, some Fours. All right. This is why it's a tough game right here. Wow. Funny how you don't question the Nassau community one. The only question they didn't want you because you are so jelly. That Stutter and John graduated from one of the best universities in the land.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Oh, that, that drives a little fucking nail at you. Cause you're a good driven horse. Go. Doesn't it? Kurt Brooks. Thanks for being a member. Robin Myers. If you haven't seen, I just proved the shit way to be just that a shit way up and a loser. the shit way to be just that a shit way up and a loser. I am been to get muttering Jay, thanks for your support. Thanks for believing in me and that I fucking had my degree and fuck
Starting point is 02:19:17 you. But again, not fuck you just eat your heart out shit-wear. Eat your heart out, Barbara. Eat your heart out, Sal and Mike. Eat your heart out, Vincent and Bessie. Eat your heart out, fat fuck Phil. Eat your heart out, snaggletooth. No, thank you. It's waiting for me.
Starting point is 02:19:45 What about me? Um, what is that? His hair is the greatest I've ever seen it. Yeah, he let it go. This thing isn't getting frosted in a while. What does he call it? It's a frosted. Oh, uh, wait glazing.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Glaze. He hasn't got a glaze. I'm the one with the frosted tabs. That's why I confused the two. How do you look like Tony Soprano for a second? Is he particularly fat in that moment? Yes, he has multiple chins in this era. I forgot how he used to be snaggletooth, he hasn't used that in a long time.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Kind of miss it. I'm sure he'll come. Why do you do this hard time? Why do you do this hard time? Why do you do this hard time? Why do you do this hard time? Why do you do this hard time? Eat your heart out. That's all for this time.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Come back next time to find out if you are man enough to poke. Adapt. Just do it. Sit Eugene, sit. Good dog. I didn't realize who that was. Yeah. The Just Do It guy.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Sit right next to you over there. There's him with his Mountain Dew collection. And the first thing we did when we got to our Airbnb, we got an Instacart and we don't have hard dew back in New York State. And so my brother ordered the variety pack, the 12 pack of hard dos, and Drew came over after the Gary Hoey show last night and tried one. Yeah, it's good. It tastes just like Mountain Dew, doesn't it?
Starting point is 02:21:15 I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, I thought it would hate the taste because I'm just not a big hard liquor drinker, but I didn't even notice it. Yeah, no, it's just a malt beverage, but it's't notice it. Yeah. No, it's just a mall. It's a mall beverage, but it's a gateway drug. If I was, when I was 12, I drink a lot of Mountain Dew. If someone's just like, well, this will give you even more of a buzz. I'm like, all right, I'll drink that now then. Thank you. Surprise Grant didn't drive a U-Haul down here to take some more home this time. Yes. We flew here. The last time my brother was in Detroit for the WTP show
Starting point is 02:21:45 at magic bag, he loaded up the car with as much hard do as he could bring back. I think that once you got over state lines, you had to declare that, right? You let them know. I didn't go for Canada. I know. I'm just joking. State lines. You can't have hard 5% ABV Mountain Dew in New York state. Get out of here with that. How long has that been around? Too new, right? A couple of years. Cause you got it in Nashville. We were doing the Nashville show. I remember. Yeah. So it's only like in three or four states. Maybe it's more now. I didn't know we were so advantaged. Well, honestly, I think it's a dangerous thing. I hope it never comes to New York state. I think my brother will have a problem because it's just like, Oh, when am I going to drink this morning?
Starting point is 02:22:30 Oh, it's 5%. Yeah. 5%. So that's fun. Great time at the magic bag last night. Andy and the gang over there. So nice to us. So accommodating. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 02:22:46 And Gary Hoey was great. Thank you, Drew. Sure. That was fun. For helping us go back there, meet Gary Hoey and watch the whole crew rock out. I want to thank you for having us over to your studios to do this show today. Yeah. I hope everything's okay. I do too. Of course we're going to the Bill's Lions game Yeah. I hope everything's okay. I did too. Of course, we're going to the Bill's lions game tomorrow. Very excited about that. Go team. Go team. I just hope they all have fun. Yeah. Are there going to be a lot of Bill's fans at the game? I would imagine so. Bill's fans travel very well, but some places it's tough to get tickets. Detroit, obviously one of them. I was shocked when they played Seattle.
Starting point is 02:23:27 How many Bills fans there were in Seattle? Because Seattle, those guys are diehard. Yeah, they were known as 12th man, right? Yes, I've been to a game in Seattle before and they take it very seriously. So the fact that the Bills fans were able to infiltrate there. That's like a five hour flight. Yeah, it's probably more than that.
Starting point is 02:23:43 Yeah, it's annoying to get to Seattle. It's amazing. But no one, Buffalo fans don't necessarily live in Buffalo though. They got the hell out years ago, which is why they travel so well to other stadiums because they already live in that state or that city or nearby. No, it's a great matchup. Best game of the year. Yeah. They're calling it the game of the year so far. Hopefully Bill's defense shows up and Josh Allen doesn't have to do everything by himself. He gets a little bit of help. So Drew Lane show is what I want people to check out, especially on YouTube. We got to get the subscriber numbers up. So go over the Drew Lane show, subscribe. What they do on their YouTube is similar to what we do on WATP. They do a two and a half, three hour long podcast and then they break it up into clips
Starting point is 02:24:29 and they find the best parts, the best moments. A lot of Corey Feldman segments. Yes. A lot of OnlyFans segments that you guys do. Those too. And so that's worth checking out. Check out Drew Lane's show. Hit like and subscribe when you get over to to that show
Starting point is 02:24:45 Brandon could you say it better than I do what else are we promoting today? We're promoting Magic Mind for you. Right, very good. We're promoting the Drew Lane show and other than that I'm promoting a big Detroit Lions victory tomorrow. You can go on iTunes and all those places and hear the audio version of the show. Subscribe to the Drew Lane show wherever you listen to podcasts. It's consistently top 100 comedy podcasts. You guys have some serious company. The shows that hover around the same numbers as you are some big names. Yeah. We're right around a talk to a talk to us in the wrong direction. Yeah. She're right around Talk Toa. Well, yeah, I think Talk Toa's headed in the wrong direction. Yeah. She's passed us the wrong way.
Starting point is 02:25:27 Right now. So I have some voicemails to play and then we'll get out of here. Is there anything that you wanted to cover that I didn't talk about? I know we talked about some radio. You know, I'm saying in text and I don't know if this even means anything to you or not, but I was looking for Talk Toa's new show and it's gone 10 days. No show. Usually every seven days. She's being silent for some reason. She did that phone call. It was a disaster. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 02:25:51 And has she been heard from since? I don't think so. That's not a good sign. That makes me wonder if she's not completely freaked out. Like this is not what I signed up for. If I was her, I would be completely freaked out. Like this is not what I signed up for if I was her I would be completely freaked out like this is Not what I signed up Seems like she did something she should not have done But it seems like you would also wouldn't you want to get the next show out and maybe yeah Say you're sorry that it if nothing else that you're not happy with what happened or so
Starting point is 02:26:22 I would be distancing myself from Doc Hollywood as quickly as possible. And by the way, I finally looked this up. So that's Howie Mandel's son-in-law. He is married to Howie Mandel's cohost. Oh, the cohost on the Howie Mandel does stuff, whatever it's called. And she's, she's cool. That's a father daughter duo, similar to what we saw with Todd Pettengill. She seems okay. She's pretty good though. Yeah, she's alright. She's got a good dynamic with him.
Starting point is 02:26:49 So their show is decent, but she married that fucking loser. What an ass. What a complete ass that guy came off as. I'm really starting to feel like, and maybe Talk2 is going to be the place where I'm wrong, that you can grift your audience and it's okay. It's applauded sometimes. They're like, wow, good for them. They made a couple billion dollars ripping off their fans. place where I'm wrong, that you can grift your audience and it's okay. It's applauded sometimes. They're like, well, good for them.
Starting point is 02:27:07 They made a couple of billion dollars ripping off their fans. But that used to be the end of somebody. Once you pull someone out, boom, you're done. And I, maybe she doesn't understand that or she doesn't want to understand that. Cause I have a feeling she could probably survive it. Here's another thought. Who wants to be a guest on that show right now? Oh, well, she's got Mark Cuban, Brooks Gofield, my favorite person on the internet.
Starting point is 02:27:30 So you got to imagine getting pretty big guests. All of a sudden it's like, Hey, do you want to talk to like, call me back in a couple of months. Let me see where this settles. Yeah, that might be what it's all about. Because who would go on there? Okay, I would. Hey, well, if you're listening,
Starting point is 02:27:47 somebody probably would maybe, I don't know. It's just odd. I just noticed when the, I was looking for the new show. Cause I want to see what is she going to say about this and no show. Oh, so she just doesn't want to say anything. That's interesting. I wonder how early she pre-records them too. I wonder if they had an episode done and then all of this came out and some things that were said in that like probably promoting the meme coin, how excited they were. They're like, oh shit, yeah, we can't release this one. Who knows? I'm speculating because a lot of these shows pre-record by days or weeks sometimes. Yeah, again, I'm just, I don't know, it really, it bothers me. It just seems
Starting point is 02:28:25 like there's, we've gone from over judging people to having no judgment of anyone. I continue to judge people and we don't vet people at all either. There's no vetting and no judgment. And it's like this only fans thing. If I see another story about somebody making $200,000 a month and I'm getting closer to my fans and it's like, really? There's nothing negative about being an OnlyFans? There's nothing to having all these creeps constantly? Speaking of OnlyFans, I covered this on WATS this week, but you guys turned me on to us. Willie Phillips?
Starting point is 02:28:57 Yeah. So the woman who's going to have sex with a thousand guys in 24 hours just had sex with a hundred guys in 24 hours and was crying. Yeah, she did not take it very well Yeah, I mean you're gonna 10x that by February and also someone did the math I didn't but in order to sex with a thousand guys in 24 hours. It's 83 seconds a guy that's crazy. That's what's even the definition of sex at that point Well, you got to blow some of those guys to get them out of the way while you're getting, so maybe it's three at a time. You got four cause you got Drew's watching some videos. I didn't even see. All right.
Starting point is 02:29:38 Four it is. You got to move the line long sometimes. No, I get it. Tip to tip. These guys are waiting like four hours in line. I mean, even for one of her gang bangs. And then she was going to do a gang bang, and somebody stopped her. It was a group of guys. And she ends up doing a gang bang with the people she ran into.
Starting point is 02:29:54 That's fucked up. I say do the gang bang with the guys you agreed to do the gang bang with. I don't. Fuck it up. Just because you're being new friends. You should blow them off. It's just really bizarre.
Starting point is 02:30:03 So what's the strategy? Like, a marathon runner, they have a strategy. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 02:30:18 I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to One way to do it, because by the end you're probably numb, you know, 18 hours in or something. Well, that's one of the reasons she was crying because she felt she didn't give some of these people enough attention out of a hundred. That's not why she just disassociated. She felt bad for them. Come on. But I wonder if you do it like a fireworks display, like a grand finale at the end where
Starting point is 02:30:48 you're just like, Oh, you're not on pace anywhere. It's like, don't worry. We got this. The final three hours are going to be nuts. There's a documentary about the hundred, by the way. There's a documentary online about it. Oh really? Yeah. It was shot in, I mean, I don't think they, I don't know what they show the sex, but it's about her doing a hundred guys. All right. So it's on Netflix or max. It's on YouTube. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. Well, I'll tell my wife, we have something to watch on TV together. When I get back home, she's not even complaining about this. You see what this is going on right now? Probably not the best viewership
Starting point is 02:31:26 partner for that. Nevermind. I take all of that back. All right. Please join us again next time. I hope you'll be with us. We find out what's for all. Who are these podcasts? And blow out every morning. Great show. Good job, everybody. Great job, everyone. You know why I hit that and then I play voicemails? When we first started doing voicemails on the show, people complained about the voicemail sign. I'm like, why would I do your voicemails on a show?
Starting point is 02:31:53 So I said, fine, I'll end the show. And then if you want to stick around for voicemails, you can, but the show's over. Yeah. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 02:32:04 No, no. No, no. No, no. over, but it's not over. It's not over because we got to hear some voicemails is where you find listeners get to participate in the show. We appreciate your feedback and your hilarious jokes, especially from boner guy 69. He's called in twice. The first time being very sarcastic about how excited he is for us to talk about Bill's football, the different games that we watch on TV, which happened again today, border guy 69, I apologize. Then he called back again. And then, and then you can watch the game being played by the Simpsons in real time. I mean, no wonder you're a nation of obese, self-obsessed, ignorant, functionally illiterate assholes with an orange lying criminally convicted sex pest for your leader with literally nobody
Starting point is 02:32:47 to oppose him. I mean, you know, why would you read a book or think about anything or leave the house and exercise ever? We're living in a truly golden age. All right, Balderguy69. I have one thing to say to you and that is... You pretend your chance and you lost. We need to do what we want now.
Starting point is 02:33:12 We ran our parents out of the room and then we can stamp as late as we want. So there, here's a new tagline for Buick. Buick Motors running over people since 1922. Some poor taste, I would say. We got a message for Drew and Brandon. Oh, coming in. They knew that we were going to be over here and called in. Hello, all my sexy bisexuals out there. I got some crang worthy Drew Lane stuff. Not the shit that asshole called up about. No, no, no. This is two professional assholes that fucked it up. Now Mr. Skin, and you had Drew Lane and his little cohort doing an interview, and this motherfucker, Mr. Skin, this fucking technology asshole, did not put do not disturb.
Starting point is 02:34:06 So all you heard was, oh my God Megan's blocked the city. So beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep. Anyway, very cringe worthy. And tell Brandon McAfee fuck you, he's blocking the bisexuals because he's afraid of us. It's not true, he's not blocked. He calls the Boner Line all the time and I enjoy his messages. Mr. Skin is usually a great guest.
Starting point is 02:34:30 He was a little off his tech game. I think he was calling from somewhere different and it, yeah, what can I say? You know anything about that? No. Being in from somewhere different, being off your tech game. Not at all. Okay. I don't know why I brought it up then.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Yeah, and he didn't know how to turn his notifications off. So. Oh wow. Yeah, there's a lot of dings. It happens. I got to say, I'm listening to the episode and it's just Sutter and John going, hey, it's your favorite teacher. I kind of can't stop laughing, but I laugh even harder at the fact that no one else would
Starting point is 02:35:09 find that funny in my life. Like no one. No one would understand why that's fucking hilarious. But here I am just walking down the street just fucking laughing. And it really just gives me a thing, like what a wonderful world you've created where, hey, it's your favorite teacher. It's fucking hilarious. Keep up the good work. Happy holidays. It is impossible to explain to people.
Starting point is 02:35:40 I know, but I have to agree too, because I go for walks sometimes at night after the show and I will be laughing out loud at stupid stuff on the show or on who are these socials or sometimes I listen to a blind mic on my walk. It's great to have content that's lined up to listen to and you got something to look forward to because I got to tell you, I don't watch much TV anymore. Right. I'm with you on that. I watch live sports.
Starting point is 02:36:04 Yeah. I need my shows. Documentaries and stuff, but yeah, not a lot. There's nothing more precious than finding a new podcast that you love. Yes, I agree. Really great. And if you do want to introduce people to the devil verse, the Sheet Shitters in Documentary is still the best way to do that. I agree. It really captures why Settarijohn is so mesmerizing for all of us who follow him. It's so worth the 60 minute watch because you come out and you know everything. You're ready to go. You're ready to dabble, baby. Yes. Is he done other documentaries before? He's working on part two. I talked to him recently and part two was very close to completion.
Starting point is 02:36:46 That was actually back in November. So I got to reach out to him and see, cause I want to see the part two of this. I just thought it was really well done. I just couldn't believe he'd never done something similar before. The voiceover, the editing, everything about it was really good. So check that out. Gary and San Diego calling in. Hey Carl, I can't understand why John is going apeshit because Kevin Brennan was going to call the elementary school and let him know that he had said something pretty bad and it should be fired. So John was going crazy, but that doesn't make any sense John announced at the beginning of his podcast that he was quitting right? Exactly. He even gave a date. Yeah, I'm putting on Wednesday
Starting point is 02:37:35 Which would have been the 18th of December. So how could he have said that Kevin's gonna try and get him fired? if He'd already given notice fired if he'd already given notice. His brain must be leaking. He's going crazy. Anyway, that's a fat jack. Rock and roll. Hiller This is the thing. This is why I'm so confused about this whole substitute teaching. Producer Chris, what's your take on this? John claims that he'd already put in his resignation and his last day was December 18th, so he doesn't care if you call the school.
Starting point is 02:38:08 But did he put in his resignation? I don't think so. He got fired. You think he got fired? Yeah. Yeah. You don't resign. Subs don't resign.
Starting point is 02:38:19 That's ridiculous. They're just like, could you imagine? Yeah, I'm not going to do this anymore after next month. We're going to need a formal letter of resignation. Can't you sub at different schools too? Yeah, usually. So you'd write a letter to every school? That's a good point. We've never even heard of you, Mr. Melendez.
Starting point is 02:38:35 Just turn it down next time someone asks. Here's Dave in Detroit calling in. Hey, Carl. Dave from Detroit here. Well, the white part of Detroit, the suburbs. I'm looking to make fun of Stuttering John talking about music. And he talks about the eighth note being the octave. Right.
Starting point is 02:38:53 And so OCP. I played the car for 25 years and I did not ever realize that the octave is the eighth note. What? Settling down is smarter at music than I am. What? Next to you, I'll be shipping off to Greenland in the morning if you can do that. No, no, no. Yeah, keep it stiff.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Don't do that. Keep it stiff, sir. Not worth it. So, I couldn't figure out what that call was because if you watch the sound of music, you know, they'll bring us back to dough. Like that's the whole point of how octaves work is the eighth note. Unless he's referring to the chromatic scale,
Starting point is 02:39:32 which it'd be the 13th note. But in a scale it's, whatever. All right nerd. I don't know what he's talking about. That was good. How do you play guitar for 25 years and not know what the octaves are? Whatever, moving on. A creep called into the show.
Starting point is 02:39:47 Hey Carl, I just heard this week's cringe of the week and I wanted to make a quick clarification. You don't go to jail for wanting to fuck a 14 year old. You go to jail for trying or actually doing it. There's nothing illegal at all about wanting the fuck of 14-year-olds. Thanks, Carl. Call me back. Love the show. That got real creepy at the end, didn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:19 Anyone who has to say those sentences, that's not a good thing. Listen to this guy's listeners. Yeah, right, exactly. Good to see it. Oh, this is talking about John's new one man show, Drew. You were asking questions about it. We have some answers. Yeah, this is good. Excellent. Hello, Mr. Carl Hamburger. My name is Nick. I'm calling from the Bellagio. One of our entertainers is starting a new residency here and he thought you'd like some VIP tickets at a show of your choice. It is the stuttering John Melendez show one-man show
Starting point is 02:40:47 starring his daughter Pretty good, but that's what I mean. It would see it would have to be somewhere. What has a long run You don't just do a one night one man show. I can't believe you used the term one man show. I know, I can't either. Why don't you say he's working on his stand-off? I mean, don't people do one man shows for like six months or a year? Yeah. Or they record them, like Cowan Quinn does those one man shows.
Starting point is 02:41:20 And then, you know, he does it for a while at a venue and then he records it and you can see it that Netflix or wherever He's adding and generally the material is so good that you can do it over and over and over to new audiences John might be delusional. I don't know if you know that true Yeah, I got a Gary outtake so he calls me sometimes he gets confused about technology and what's going on I thought this was kind of funny what's going on. I thought this was kind of funny. Hey Siri, call who are these podcasts? Hey Siri, call who are these podcasts? Siri's confused. Siri's like, you're talking to who are these podcasts right now. There's nothing I can do. All right, this is, again, Gary and
Starting point is 02:42:01 San Diego, quick message. Why not quit December 13 today? Yes, John say he's going to quit December 31st is baffling to all of us. I Think it's he he thinks he thinks he's a couple more weeks of income Yeah, I don't think he's gonna quit. I think he wants to negotiate with Vince He wants events to be like no you got to keep doing it. Well, then don't make me pay you back. You know, there's super chats. Yeah. And he's trying to get super chat money coming in. So I think he, I think he's thinking that, uh, well, I did it wrong last time. I should have just done a show and gotten paid a lot for it because my material is so valuable to these shows. I should be paid a lot for each show. Without reading these stupid super chats.
Starting point is 02:42:47 It is funny that he keeps trying to figure that out. Like, how do I make a lot more money than these people are making off of me? And he still hasn't figured out, but he's still thinking about it, so that's good. He hasn't given up on it. Is he making more money than anyone who's using his material?
Starting point is 02:43:02 No. Or maybe a cup of the smaller shows maybe, or no? Maybe potato soup since potato soup's been kicked off of YouTube. But even that, I don't know. What are the prospects for potato soup coming back? Not good. Well, he does still do potato soup on Rumble. He did a show Thursday.
Starting point is 02:43:18 That was great. Is that going okay? No, it's Rumble. My brother's just like, I don't have Rumble. No, it's a website. You don't have to have it. Everyone has Rumble. Yes, anyone can go to Rumble, but's rumble. My brother's just like, I don't have rumble. It's a website. You don't have to have it. Everyone has rumble. Yes, anyone can go to rumble, but no one does. So, it's not great. You want to be on YouTube,
Starting point is 02:43:30 unfortunately, for Cardiff. Wow. Pretty pricey. You lost his channel over John's ass. What a funny way to lose a channel. Incredible. Not great. Slowpoke Paco calling in. Hey, Carl. It's Slowpoke Paco. I just wanted to say that British guy is not the only foreigner who calls in. I'm from Mexico, so I'm a foreigner too. But I'm not going to stop calling in. You know it's been a while. But you're doing a great job, Carl.
Starting point is 02:44:02 Good job, Producer Chris. Shout out to Paco. And also shout out to British guy Carlian Moore Bye. All right. Shout out to Mexico slowpoke Paco. Thanks for calling in adios I believe is what you meant to say That guy in Portugal keeps calling in. Hey guys, King of Portugal here. What kind of world we live in where we lose Sean guitar talk and we get Stan John music talk? Come on.
Starting point is 02:44:36 Cheerio. That is disappointing. Sean, the audio engineer from the Dick Show is retired and he was just starting to do the Sean guitar talk segments and now he's had to listen to John play his chord. How does Portugal find the dabble verse? So a lot of Europeans who are in the dabble verse.
Starting point is 02:44:55 Yeah. I know it's weird. You know, I see who these podcasts charting in the strangest countries like Saudi Arabia. And I'm like, what? I don't know what that means either. I don't know what that is. There's smaller places where you could just have a few people and it would make a chart, but still, I mean, that's unusual to chart in that many oddball countries. And I typically see you guys in like six countries and everyone I go, how
Starting point is 02:45:18 is, where would they find this? I understand it. I was watching this little piggy last night. I wasn't on the show, but you have Patrick Mountain who's in Vegas and then you have Moody from New Zealand. And then you have that Aussie guy Dean who's on the West coast of Australia. It's like, we couldn't be covering more land with this show. It's all the way across the earth. We're huge in Antarctica. Penguins love us. It just seems like it would have to have some connection
Starting point is 02:45:45 to the Howard Stern show or something, or the TV show. I think a lot of it is because of YouTube, people are discovering Opie and Anthony and the Howard Stern show and stuff like that because they definitely didn't have it growing up. Yeah, that's true. But a lot of these things are becoming international now. I think OBE is getting a lot of new fans from just the YouTube stuff. Yeah, I agree. No, I'm finding it. There's stuff, a ton of stuff I didn't see or hear or have the chance to because the hours I was working and I love some of the stuff I've heard. It's like, wow, this is really fun to sit around and listen to. There are channels, I don't know if they exist year round, I know in October, that just play Joktober segments nonstop.
Starting point is 02:46:27 And sometimes I'll just go to sleep listening to that. It's great. How many Joktober segments are there altogether? Any idea? Well, they were doing it every October show for probably seven or eight years. That's like 200 episodes. But they would also do it outside of October
Starting point is 02:46:42 because people wanted it so badly. They would do it other times too. So yeah, there's gotta be a lot. Cool. Uh, one more voicemails from a long time listener. Hi Carl. Hi Chris. Um, I am a huge fan of the VATP.
Starting point is 02:46:56 I've been listening for so long and uh, my thing is, oh wait, yeah. Oh wait, Carl, hold up. Oh wait, what? The Wolf is fucking loose? Oh wait. Yeah. Oh wait Carl. Huh? Hold up. Oh wait. What the wolf is fucking loose. Oh Wow, okay. Let's hear it Carl. The wolf is fucking loose. Let's fucking hear it The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year
Starting point is 02:47:32 The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year The end of the year Okay, bye. Okay, folks. Guess what?
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