Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep617 - Riffin with Griffin

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

This week we’re checking out the latest appearance of Adam Busch’s Dabbleverse media tour. He was on with Jake Hudson and we play some of the highlights and discuss the quality of this interview verses Quadfather on BYB. Then Adam and I watch a little bit of BYB watching WATP watching Adam on BYB. Erik Griffin was on Adam Carolla’s show and was a terrible guest. When he tried to have a take he said nothing, he wasn’t following along with the conversation, and he even corrected Adam with false information (an incorrect correction). Because of this we decided to check out Erik Griffin’s solo podcast and it’s shockingly bad with his Opie-level takes. After that we discuss Scorch’s message to Anthony Cumia and Anthony’s response. Opie is still on a blocking spree as he gets triggered by chatters telling him his mouth looks purple and his appearance is awful. Annie joins the show for another round of “2 Minutes with Tom,” a recent review, and your voicemails.  Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Stream Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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more. You see, this is a we just do it kind of show. Here we go. Episode 617. Are you a boner guy? Oh, I was a boner guy. You know what? I miss penis. What are you talking about?

I'm the one who should apologize. Is it gonna be absolutely riveting? Is it gonna change your life by any stretch? Probably not, but it's gonna be at least entertaining, okay? By the way, for those people that are in the back, remember to shut the fuck up. Cuz, cuz a row, cuz a row, slapperoonie. It's show time. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts, the only show in the devil verse that's impossible to goof on. I'm your host, Carl. With me, as always. He used to be Mr. Hollywood,

but now he's Mr. Wednesday. It's Adam Bush. I'm so happy to be back. Producer Chris is here as well. Yo. You can go to whoarethese.com. That's where you get our email address, the voicemail number, the link to our subreddit, the link to our Discord server,

the link to our merchandise, the link to our YouTube channel, and the link to Patreon and Supercast, featuring two exclusive bonus episodes every month. Wait, did I say two? We did three in April featuring two exclusive bonus episodes every month wait did I say two we did three in April Three exclusive bonus episodes yesterday We just dropped a brand new living in the past with stuttering John producer Chris Jenny jingles were with me We went through another episode where he's talking about the Secret Service coming after him and him hiding from the Secret Service Not answering the door. This was the same technique he used

when VTM was trying to serve him a 12.5 million dollar lawsuit. Don't answer the door, Bob! Or I'm guessing anything in his life. The cats want food. Just avoid it. Just hide at Pickwick. He culled them from the shitter in Pickwick

when he finally did call the Secret Service. Anyway, all of that's covered. Also, John failing miserably on the Howard Stern rose on the Channel 9 show. We went over all of that. So worth checking out. If you go to our Patreon or our YouTube, you can become a member. You can gift a membership here while you're watching. We're live every Wednesday, 530 Eastern for anyone to come on and watch how the fudge

is packed. like what I like to say. Hackamania is coming up May 9th through 11th that's soon and listen I get it you didn't make plans Vegas is too far away from where you live and you're thinking I don't think I'm gonna swing it this year. You can stream it from home. You can. In fact, you better. You can stream it and you can do that by going to hackamania.com.

Use the promo code W-H-T-P to sign up for that. You can watch all the podcasts. I'm talking about this little piggy, biggest problem in the universe. Who are these podcasts? The creep off, nobody likes onions Weird medicine is actually headlining the entire event Steve's coming in Saturday. He's gonna do the final show Saturday night. Tookie soup with Cardiff is gonna be there. I am very much looking forward to Hack-a-mania

Now what do you say to those fans that would love to live stream it but they're afraid you're gonna dox them? Deal with it. Not quite the comfort they were looking for. Now there's another show coming up and this is for our friends on the East Coast especially especially the Northeast, we are live in Boston on June 21st at the City Winery. WATPlive.com is where you can go to get your tickets. It's gonna be the whole WATP crew along with Dick Masterson and Johnny the audio engineer and no Vito Giswoldi, zero Vito Giswoldi. WATPlive.com live in Boston on June 21st. I think, so I saw the numbers yesterday. There were three VIP tickets left.

Yeah. It could be sold out by now. And tickets are selling. So you're gonna wanna get on there, get your seats. It is a signed seating. You pick out where you're gonna sit in the city winery. It's a signed seating. You pick out where you're going to sit in the city winery. It's a very classy place. Very fancy. I know Dick has been telling everyone to dress up nice for this event. We're all going to dress nice and be professionals at this live

show. It's Dick's last live show. So we're going to celebrate and have some style. Also, we encourage our listeners, give us five stars in Apple podcasts or every review podcast, but then shit all over us in the comment section. Today, we'll be talking about Eric Griffin. Not only is he an unfunny comedian, he also might be a slow. The BYB podcast watched our review of Adam on their show.

Anthony Cooley has extended the olive branch to scorch. Opie explains to chatters how much he's enjoying his life. Of course we have another two minutes with Tom from the great Cardiff Electric, but first Adam Bush was on with Jake Hudson a couple of days ago and you did a fantastic job. Jake did a fantastic job. I thoroughly enjoyed your appearance on there. What were your overall thoughts, takeaways? Well, we review these podcasts. We make a lot of bold statements and proclamations, and we do a lot of judging. And I just wanted to see what it would be like

if they had a guest. These people that we review, that we talk about, that was open and willing to let them lead and do their show. We hear a lot, I don't have guests, I don't have help, I don't have producers. Well, here you have someone, I've done this a couple times before. I'm a friend, I'm here to help, and I'll give you about 15 to 20 minutes before I start to get bored and then I'll just ask you what I like and move on. And I'm continuing to make that offer to any podcast that would like to have me on. I'm happy to let you showcase your skills, you know, so we can't say that it was due

to limitations because I'm here to be supportive should you need it. However, if it doesn't go well, now we know. Did you hear Tookie's take on you doing Jake's show and BYB? What did he say? It was very funny. He's like, you gotta have some respect for your tie, man. What are you doing? Yeah, he's right.

I know about that. But Tukey went through this... I'm not saying that he did the same thing you're doing, but Tukey did a thing where all of a sudden everyone's like, Tukey, you gotta come to my show. He just kept saying yes to everyone. And then he realized, like, I can't keep doing this and he just told everyone now I'm not doing anyone he might be onto something. I think he might be The experience he knows I've been trying to work this out with the Aussie guy for what feels like six months now

And it's difficult to lock down a time, but honestly I'm I'm open I can't just pop in and out the only way I can do it is to Feel comfortable give the person the time to just you know know that I'm open. I can't just pop in and out. The only way I can do it is to feel comfortable, give the person the time to just, you know, know that I'm not going anywhere. We can stay, we can make it right. And so far I found that it is very revealing. It's just as revealing as the opposite, like going on to just shit on someone and have a big gotcha and then running. Letting people slowly reveal themselves can sometimes be even more revealing. I love that. I love your strategy. I love your approach. I think it all makes a lot of sense. You just reminded me the Aussie guy will also be on WATP this Saturday

along with EDR. It's an early teaser that I'm putting out there. So that should be a lot of fun. All right. I want to start with a couple clips here from you with Jake Hudson. Do you want to set up your first clip at all? Yeah and I just want to invite everyone to compare and contrast this interview to the BYB one and any other one that you've seen on in the Dumbledore verse in terms of like having a goal and seeing if they set out to do what they wanted to. But first I found it very revealing to find out what Jake's takeaway from working with Stuttering John was.

What was it like when, like, what was the experience with John like on the show? Did you guys get along? It was good. It was good. It was like an hour, hour or some change of us talking. And he was very, he was very, he sent me 50 bucks super chat that I got to send back. Did he really? Say that again? He sent you 50 bucks, a super chat for 50 bucks. That's fantastic.

But I never received it because I don't get YouTube. Why? YouTube is because of my tax paperwork. I have to donate. But how do you know he sent it? You know, but I want to say thank you so much for answering because I know that you had, and I know Carl might talk about this on his show. Great deflection right there.

Oh no, John's very generous, I mean, 50 bucks. I never got it though. Oh, how'd you know he sent it to you? So Carl's probably gonna talk about this on his show, right? So that's the question. Is this brilliant deflection or something else? I don't know. What do you think?

You're not sure about that? I'm gonna start treating you like you treat these people. What do you think about that, Adam? How do you think that went down? Well, if I was one of those people, I would say you have no right to do that to me, blocked, and I'm gonna sue you. Okay, fair enough.

That is not fair. I think he's smarter than he lets on like most smart people they play a little dumb. In this next one I think he exercises that. What's that? That's a hot take. We'll see how this ends. I'm more about comparing people to each other and seeing how they rank out with that. But right here he does something that again is very masterful. He doesn't take the bait that when I do this

on any other show, everyone's very quick to agree with anything I say about this. Who's with me? You've been to Dabble House? I haven't, but I saw it on TV. You know, when I could, when I could get through on the stream, eh? I'll be honest with you.

I, you know, here's the thing. Chad was talking about the isotopes today. Who was? Chad was saying that. Uh-huh, what was he saying about them? Carl was cooking the numbers. Oh, is he? Is that true? That's great. Do you want to answer that? Do you want to answer? I have no idea what Chad's referring to as cooking the numbers oh is he is that great so do you want to answer that do

you want to answer I have no idea what chance refer to as cooking the numbers if you look at any isotopes video they're not cooked a lot of videos on those you know the super popular Ben the ice up sack up check him out so so you're denying this accusation you're denying it you're saying he's lying about this okay never bought a view about my okay But I like that you tried to like bait him into shitting on dabble house there, you know Yeah, what that was a debacle a lot and he wasn't he wasn't going for it Which shows he has some kind of moral compass some kind of backbone there

Or he just didn't purchase dabble easily distracted, baby. Yeah Maybe I don't think he can hear me really I don't think There's no guarantee that he can hear the words. I'm saying but it still goes well. Yeah, all right So the second clip that you sent me is Sj didn't pay him. I just love that because of course you know There's always some reason why the money didn't get out of SJ's hands to somebody else and he happens to reveal who did pay him the most in the dabble verse and I was wondering if you guys could guess if anyone hasn't heard it who do you think in the dabble verse paid him the most yeah speculate in the chat speculate away you're right John always has an

excuse like I hate going to the post office that was literally his excuse for not sending money I bought you those beers your mother bought me those beers Nope alright, so let's find out who paid Jake Hudson the most so working with KB was like I had fun, but thing is it was like then it was the times that I He refused to pay me. He refused to let, you know, I made more on El Jaribe. El Jaribe paid me more than Shuley in KB's pay.

I never received a dime from, I'm owed a T-shirt from OP. I'm owed a T-shirt from Opie. I'm owed a T-shirt from Opie. So there you have it. Rocco's the most generous dabbler for Jake Hudson. Kevin Brennan's not paying him any money, and this is fresh off an experience with Kevin Brennan, right?

Mm-hmm. Not getting any money from KB, and he's buying shirts from Opie, and Opie's not doing anything for him. Disappointing. Wait, can you actually get one of those shirts? The Opie shirts? Yeah.

I don't know. I don't think you can. What do you mean? You don't think he's actually fulfilling though? He's got a whole merch store. Someone else was complaining about that, not just Jake. Really? Cause there's a guy in Rochester who I know

who was his merchandise fulfiller. Okay. I don't know if he still is, because he's got a lot going on now, so he might not be anymore. Hope he might not even know he's not anymore. That's what I'm thinking. I think about it. That's interesting.

Now he starts doing this thing with you, and this was well done by Jake, he was prepared. He said, I'm gonna give you a list of names, I want you to tell me if they're professional or unprofessional. Which is a weird distinction I didn't quite understand what the big deal was about either one But he also wanted me to then add in a one-word adjective to describe the person

So he was basically naming everyone in the double verse. I had to say professional unprofessional and then add an adjective It went on for a very long time. It did, but it was riveting. I wasn't sure what you were going to say, so here's an example of that. Next one. FKB... Kevin Brennan. I feel like you were trying to

lead me a little bit there with the F. You know, you're kind of putting that in my head. Be careful, don't try and sway me. I'm on to you. So you're asking me, is in my head. Be careful. Don't try and sway me. I'm on to you. So you're asking me is Kevin Brennan unprofessional and embarrassing. Neil Brennan.

Professional. I know you worked with Neil Brennan before. I think it was you. That's interesting. I actually I worked with Neil Brennan as a kid at Nickelodeon, but not in any capacity that we really remember.

What I did actually was screen test for the role of Neil Brennan and Kevin Brennan. Wait, was Neil Brennan the child star? He worked at Nickelodeon, he worked on all that. What do you mean worked on? Bits and things and yeah, he worked on all that. What do you mean worked on? Doing bits and things and yeah, he was involved in that. Like behind the scenes, like an employee? I think so, yeah.

Is he a lot older than you? I don't know, I don't know his age. It's a good question. In HBO pilot deal. So that was you? Yeah. Not in Number One Son that was a pilot that wasn't picked up I was in the pilot he wrote that didn't get shot but so by way pretty funny all right next one Kenan Thompson hey oh this is what are you stepping it here I liked this a lot because I'm a big Keaton Thompson fan

I didn't know that you two had a relationship So I was excited to hear this and I love how Jake really set you up for this one What a scumbag you are and a bush Yeah, we spend a lot of time together when I was younger and Y'all you're right I'm so sorry such an asshole what a Hollywood piece of shit um you got me um yeah professional and dolphin he's like a dog and I'm completely flustered I'm totally doesn't funny you say that we should go back a ways we worked out a few projects together you might have heard of oh

You ever played the professional professional game. That's right Yeah, if one of the debate moderators had that kind of confidence we'd probably live in a better democracy Holy shit. He was not taking any crap from there sticking these that's impressive mm-hmm That's what I'm saying. He's saying Kevin Brennan, Neil Brennan, he's throwing out all the people in the dabble verse and then Kenan Thompson. And so you're immediately like, oh we're shifting away from this, we're talking about something different. And he's like, I'm not interested in your little anecdote, dummy. Play the game, Bush. We're playing the game right now. You got it, Jake. Raise your hand if

illegal immigrants should have free health care We're playing a game. Come on figure it out Meanwhile I appear on a lot of these shows I talk a lot of shit for a long time and nobody interrupts me They all just let me go this guy's Stick into the script Mm-hmm all right you want to set up this next clip here? It's the exact perfect thing you just set up. He's either a genius or he's totally crazy and free associating because he does hear

what Stuttering John is known for. This is, and he does it better than John does it. This is how you disable someone, you disarm someone with disability, and then you sneak in something difficult. I think this is masterful what he does here. One of them, so, my favorite, so, have you worked with Dan Snyder? Did you work with Dan?

He's like, yeah, I mean, great. I really enjoy all the shows you're on. Dan Snyder, go. Go, yeah. How are you responsible? Explain. I picture Stuttering John on the red carpet, stuttering, and people feeling bad for him. Yeah, I'll answer anything if you could just get it out.

Yeah, and then they come out with that. And it's no different than anywhere else, by the way. I'll answer anything if you could just get it out. Yeah, and then they come out with that. And it's no different than anywhere else, by the way. I am required by law to answer to the crimes of people that I have never worked with. In some instances, never met. Or even like new people that knew them at the time, but it is my responsibility to answer and I better I better know what the fuck I'm talking about and I better get it right and I better not waiver because it's on me and everyone handles it their own way and I thought Jake

handled it just as well if not better than anybody else. I agree and not to make it real but when that Nickelodeon doc came out that must have increased the questioning for you by 20-fold I would imagine. It's funny because it's like the Kevin Spacey thing too you know about something for so long and then you finally see it and it's just everything you've known and heard, verbatim, and it almost feels like it didn't happen, you know, because nothing changes really except people asking me more questions about it.

And somehow believing and understand, having less compassion about it and more like, like even Quad's going on about how you're supposed to handle this stuff. He goes, well, if this happened to me, this is how you're supposed to do it. Really, really Quad? You about how you're supposed to handle this stuff. He goes, well, if this happened to me, this is how you're supposed to do it. Really? Really, Quad? You know how you're supposed to, because there's a right way and you know it.

Do you know what that sounds like when you say, you know how you're going to handle victim blaming, but also if anyone's going to ask, say anyway, I feel like quad would be the easiest to do it too. Well, I didn't, would be the easiest to do to Both your minds go there real fast that's interesting When presented with confrontation it all turns I get it. All right Here's another clip that you have on here. I Love it when you make Jake laugh or Jake makes himself laugh. That's one of my favorite parts of your guys' interaction. I didn't want, we've all seen him freak out

and get nervous and do that, and that'll probably happen inevitably. I wanted to bring out something different, and I gotta say, this goober little incest laugh of his makes me so happy. It really does, it's pure joy. So you think Carl will ever have me on? Listen, Carl, here's the thing. I asked him...

You might have stepped on that a little bit. So the question is, will Carl ever have me on? And you have a very good response here because you asked me if there's anything I'd like to tell Jay Conson. There was one thing I told you. And you weaved it into the conversation perfectly here. Listen, Carl, here's the thing. I ask him to get back to me and he doesn't.

And do you want to know why he doesn't, Jake? Because he's busy? Yeah, he's busy listening to the AI songs that you send him. You send him too many. And you have to stop sending it to him because he's spending all of his time listening to them and chronicling them. And I can't get a hold of him so

Promise me you'll stop. Okay The answer is yes He said so many AI songs all the time and sometimes they're doing a whole group list of people and sometimes they're just to me and I can't stand them. I hate AI music. Please never do that again. We have a little bonus here as a short one. A little advice for Stuttering John. He's very good at what he does. If you could give Stuttering John that's advice, what would it be? You're good at this.

Leave, leave. Ha ha ha ha ha. Pretty good advice, leave. Pretty good, make like a tree and leave. Pretty good advice. So overall, I thought it was a great episode. I was glued to it. I felt compelled to send you a note.

I paused it halfway through because I went to the hockey game, but I felt compelled to send you a note I I paused it halfway through because I went to the hockey game But I felt compelled to send you a note and tell you how much I genuinely enjoyed Your interaction and interview with Jay Codson. Thank you. And and I hope anyone who Wants to make him a punching bag You can feel free But when you really compare him to the other people in this world and what they're trying to get done, I don't think he is any different or working on a different level than anybody else here in this double verse, including myself. Especially Ray DeVito.

And well, yeah. Now, we did a segment last week that was similar to this segment because you went on BYB and then Quadfather is like, oh're gonna talk about this on their show and then we're gonna talk about this on our show and I don't know how long they talked about us for because you just sent me over a couple timestamps but this episode's over three hours it was it dragged out did you watch all of it do you know it's very long they cover all of it and And I really hope everyone, if you have a free three hours to spare, you're gonna watch The Godfather 2 and you said fuck it, I want to do this instead. Please

listen to, they'll listen, they'll hear a point that we say on the show and then without fail they will give in real time an example of what we're talking about as it happens. It's pretty wild. And they're trying to refute it, and then they actively demonstrate that that's what they do.

Yeah. They'll come to a conclusion and they'll just ignore it, jump to the other thing. It's strange. It was just like we were talking about with Chad. When you say something mean to Chad, his body just goes into like spasms because he can't take it. When they receive criticism, everything, the world stops.

And all that exists is this moment right now. And even if they just said the color blue, they'll say, I never said blue. And they mean it because whatever they're feeling is just taking over and I find that more dangerous than people that yell and scream and shout yeah oh for sure because it's a delusion mm-hmm they're gonna begin an alternate reality and it shows you people that are that are malleable and they won't change their opinion no matter what because changes weakness and I will hold on to this no matter how much I don't know

what else to do and that that's dangerous Yeah, all right, so there's just a couple clips here that we want to go over but There's here's an example of I think what you're talking about Mm-hmm like I've actually talked to the lady. We do started off in a bad way cuz uh Whatever there was a miscommunication in a Gavin discord. I was in there fucking around one day and talking about Missy B Yeah, and just to set this up. I he watches me say That when I mentioned messy Missy B to him

he got a Little emotional and he just started kind of rambling for a really long time and talking about how they have this you know clearly palpable history together and this is him proving what I just said wrong. Okay whatever there was a miscommunication in a Gavin Discord I was in there fucking around one day and whatever. She ran with that on WATP. I sent in a super chat to chip or chip at her on a **** show. Uh

whatever. They they always acted very weird back in those days and of course, I was I was Satan because I was on Stuttering John's show at the time. Uh but whatever. Long story short, um, yeah, explain myself. Why? I don't really have to explain myself. Um, yeah, I, I don't know.

Should I explain this in great detail? No. Yeah, it's, it's a lot, but, uh, it was a year ago, man, a year ago. I would speed this up to 1.5. A year ago, I was on Stuttering John's show and I was hanging out. So the one message that I did was it wasn't coded. What I was trying to explain is Cardiff, B. Dabler, other people I know personally were like, hey, why don't you do this while you're on Stuttering John's show? Why don't you do this? They were like feeding me ideas while I was on the show of things I could do to fuck with him.

And I did those things. You can ask multiple people, hey, like what did you do? And they'll explain what they sent me stuff. My favorite one, and I'll never forget it, is the dabbler sending me the Craven Martin. His son, Craven Burrow. Craven Burrow. And it was just a picture of Craven Martin. And we convinced him that that was his illegitimate son is the funniest shit of all time dude that is coded shit The message I I had stuttering John one day send missy a message to the camera I said, why don't you say this stuff like oh I had him explain how he's okay with sitting next to a proud boy How he's okay with Jesus Christ how he's okay with people being a conservative how he's okay with people watching like Alex Jones and shit I can't remember it was a list of like six things

I had him say to the camera and be like, right say that to uh Anthony and Missy for me and he did it so whatever not very coded very right in your fucking face is what it was. Thanks for proving me wrong. Long story short yeah I know it's always the kiss of death right there. This is why I love this so much because I told I asked Rob Saul Hey, buddy, what keeps you up at night? Yeah, and he's like fuck me. Fuck you. What do you do me my ex? Why I don't think and it just started I Said hey sounds like you got a lot going on with Missy B is something going on over there And this guy said something going on over there. Let me show you how little is going on over there

something going on over there. Let me show you how little is going on over there. Two and a half minutes later, he's going, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Goss, like, dude, we just asked about your ex and now you're like, talking about the pyramids, what's going on? You think that comment was out of line. Thank you for showing us how it should be done. In his defense, he's like three hours into the episode at this point, so he might be a little how is that a defense?

No one asked him to do a show Have a fucking opinion about this stuff. How could he just say oh, yeah, we are we used to fight now or friend She's awesome. What is this? I just said it sounds like you have something Rob Saul by the way is in that chat right there calling me a faggot because I asked him what he does at night Yeah, that's all I said to Rob There was no negative to quad I said right what's going sounds like there's a lot It's that's yeah now the other thing you were talking to quad about on the show

was the whole thing with Shuli and TSN and you know quad father loves that there is a PDF my full-time job of Yeah, there's a PDF file involved so it makes it makes it great and great fodder for everyone because that's my enemy so a good thing that that happened and you kind of called him out on that and So this is him responding to that. I think in the show my right I believe so. Okay. Oh Quickly forgivable, but in other people I guess it's not No, I never said other people were forgivable for having odd timing for their employees having pedophilia problems So I don't think I have I don't think that came up twice in this episode

Okay, after I asked him what he thought Shulie or anybody in this situation should do outside of what they'd done, he couldn't come up with anything. Right. So he said it was more about the timing. And I reported that back. So he hears that and he goes, I never said anything about the timing. I never why would I say anything about the timing that has nothing to do? With the situation the timing cut to five minutes earlier. Yeah, this is just a few minutes before he said that Like what is he supposed to do with the books? Yeah, mainly

It was just the timing of everything after that there are plenty of reasons that are real and genuine to not like surely agar It doesn't have to be that and if you don't like hearing that and bringing it up, then I wouldn't No, I mean I always Know why did I say that to him because I was giving him an out right letting him know you don't have to him because I was giving him an out. I was letting him know you don't have to switch whatever team you think that means to just drop this and move on since you hate hearing about it so much. By the way, his response to why he has to make those jokes and say those things is because he says people keep bringing it up. I have to say something. Quad, you were the only one who brought it up

over and over again and made me talk about it. I didn't, you hated that Karl Dachs that guy, so you repeated his name over and over and over. Well, I had to do the segment. We did the same fucking segment, never mentioned his name, never even talked about it. It was just called being a gentleman or trying to be a nice person.

This is and he doesn't see any of this and it breaks my heart because he's a good guy. He's open to it. He yells at you for not having an appoint an opposing view on point dabble point. He needs to be it. We're looking everyone's looking. This guy needs to be it, come on. We, oh, I'll send him an invite next time. Please. We're also trying to get Clay Dabler on the show. We were sending him the link during the show on Monday because he was in the chat.

Like, come on and give us your take on it. Please. We're not opposed to opposing viewpoints at all. No, we can't find any. No one's keeping them from the screen. We just can't find them. and when you refuse to come on quad You'll have your answer as to why we don't have any opposing views on it's because you won't come on It's also interesting when people say well, that's what people want me to talk about everyone's bringing up

That's what they're talking about. We are watching so many people are ruled by their chat I have examples of OP coming up. Of course We just did the segment on scorch who's controlled, the entire show is being controlled by the chat room. Why would you do that to yourself? And then say it's out of my hands! I don't want to tell you, it's what everyone's talking about. You be what everyone's talking about. It's called leadership. Right. Also when they say it's out of their hands, do they mean to say I have no content other than that well Yes, I mean that's really what's going on. That's a subtext, right? Yeah, okay See and and you'll say that to him and it'll end right there. He won't go

Oh, maybe I should do a bigger show. Oh, yeah Going back to that the discussion because I watched the clip where he was talking about well Adam He knew what I meant when I said that WTP is scripted, but he was just, you know, I guess he's used to scripts. And I was just saying that, you know, they have a plan and everyone follows the plan of what they're going to do. And Adam astutely pointed out to me and now just like, yeah, yeah, like, how else would we do a show like this where we have clips that we've pulled out of time and then react to them? You can't just be like, all right, which random clips should we go to now?

It's like, no, no, no, someone actually decided which shows we should watch, pulled clips from it, and then we discussed those clips all in a segment together to make it cohesive, and then we move on to the next thing after that. And he pulled a clip, Carl, of you on a show saying, somebody's like, should we talk about Steel Toe now? And you're like, oh no, we're gonna talk about Steel Toe,

maybe we'll talk about this instead. And then you talk about it, and he goes, he showed this clip, and he goes, see? See? See what happens when you don't follow the plan or the script? Quad, we're not gonna spend any time pulling the six different times, just on this last show,

you said we're gonna talk about these four topics which one do you want to talk about now okay let's talk about the other one all these got all these things you're trying to prove once you prove them I don't know what happens then what is what do you have when you prove that surely found out a week before he announced it then what what are you gonna do with that information? You find out that Carl decides what he's going to talk about ahead of time. It's public knowledge. Now what? Where do we go from here? I literally went on a Ray DeVito show. This is over a year ago now. And I was trying to teach him how to run a well run podcast. And I shared my screen. I've

never done this before. I've never done it since but I showed him my notes I'm like, here's an example. This is yesterday's show W ATP and I scroll down I go here's all the notes I have the numbers of the clips that I'm gonna pull and some ideas that I have about what I want to talk about And different things and Ray goes write down three bullet points. Got it Also, I like turtles Hiding anything this is what the show has always been points. Got it. Also, I like hiding anything. This is what

the show has always been uh from the get go. Alright, let's get into uh the main thing I wanted to talk about today and that is Eric Griffin and honestly, this was this started out as a cringe of the week. Because I was watching the Adam Carolla show and he had Eric Griffin on as a guest and I went

Alright, well let's see, he's with some competent people, or at least one competent person. Can he actually hold a conversation? Can he be amusing? Can he be interesting? Because we always see him on Golden Hour with Chris D'Alea and Brendan Schaab And we go, oh my gosh, I can't handle this conversation. These people are... I was watching some of it

today, the latest episode to figure out if I wanted to pull some clips from that. And it's mind boggling. The show. It's so bad. But I thought I'll give him we'll give him a chance here. And see how he does on the Adam Carolla show. I just saw Chrissy Mayer on the Adam Carolla show recently. She did a great job. You know, usually Adams, one of these guys, He's been in radio so long actually. I've heard him say this before He's gone into dressing rooms like when he was on TV and stuff and he would tell the guests hey No pressure on you the show's gonna be good or bad because of me, so don't worry about it

You just be you we're gonna have a great time because he knows how to run a show and So he's not counting on the guests to bring anything. So this is a pretty low pressure No, there's an audience there as people watching but it's a pretty low pressure at Griffin's been in Hollywood for a long time Been a comedian and the actor and stuff. So you'd think that he'd be very good at this kind of thing Well, it starts out there talking about this. Obviously Bill Maher went to dinner with Trump. And then Bill Maher went on the show and talked about it

and explained how it all went down and what his experience was. So then you get Larry David writing an essay where he talks about his fun dinner with Hitler. And it's really just calling out Bill Maher for doing this. And so Bill Maher is on his show Club Random with Piers Morgan. And they're responding to Larry David. Larry David and Bill Maher are friends. They're both liberal comedians in Hollywood, been there a very long time.

And so it was kind of surprising that he took the shot that he did. And so they're watching the response on the Adam Carolla show. I want to set it up with this first and then we'll get Eric Griffin's take on this. All right, what do you got, Mayhem? All right, Bill Maher has reacted

to Larry David's insulting my dinner with Adolf essay Oh, yeah, I'm like it lost just to start it. Mm-hmm I mean this wasn't you know, my favorite moment of our friendship But you know look I don't want to get in too much into that but I think The minute you play the hitler car. That's what I think you've lost the argument Yes Okay, and then it goes on for a little while but that's the I think you've lost the argument. Yes. Okay. And then it goes on for a little while, but that's the main crux of the thing that Bill Mars

response to what Larry David did. And for those listening, Griffin's response or contribution to this so far was to cough loudly into the microphone and then turn his head away. Smart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's been doing this a long time. And I just want to point out this mayhem guy is now the the news reader on the show and kind of the main sidekick on the show, slightly better than Alison Rosen

and Gina Grad, but only slightly. Not quite sure what his deal is. He's like a MMA guy or something. That's he looks like they gave security a speaking job and he's wildly underprepared. Yeah, they did the same thing with Ronnie the limo driver. We all see how that worked out Alright, so you just heard the take. Oh, you know, it's soon as you pull the Hitler card You've kind of lost the argument you've lost the plot. And so Eric Griffin is gonna chime in with his hot take on this So I saw the episode that when he talked about like his dinner and I thought I thought it was fascinating. Yeah, I agree.

I thought it was a fascinating like look from because I watched that show all the time. So I know how he feels about Trump and for him to go sit there and experience that it said a lot about like, you know, even Trump himself about like how he's being a certain way for like, like I said, the negative mating and stuff like that, whatever, you know, uh, even Trump himself about like how he's being a certain way for like, like, like I said, the, the negative mating and stuff like that, whatever, you know, I totally agree with Bill Maher about that. I'm so sick of people talking about Hitler, man. I agree. He came in there with a lot of confidence. He came in hot. He's like, Oh yeah, hold on guys. I got, he was the first to talk. I got a take on this And immediately got lost in summation the first thing I said Immediately got lost in that I watched that show and I know about stuff and things and not

I'm gonna keep it up who but uh Sometimes you realize how weak your argument is only once you start saying it and you hear it out loud and you see the reaction It's getting they were all talking about you know know, serious political ramifications and he was just like, yeah, but it was like fun and cute, right? And so everyone go, no, this is perhaps deeper and then just started scrambling. He's scrambling. And that's why I was talking about, is he nervous? He shouldn't be nervous on this show, but it seems that way because he really lost track of what he was saying. And on the other shows that he's on,

he starts going down this road, and Chris Lee is gonna start talking over him, and Brendan Schaub's gonna start laughing hysterically, and it's all, they just move on, it's all good. But on a professional show, they go, go ahead. Oh, that's interesting. What's your take?

And he's like, oh shit, they're letting me talk for? Uh-oh, that's not good. I'm not used to having to have an ending, shit's interesting. What's your take? And he's like, oh shit, they're letting me talk more? Uh oh. I'm not used to having to have an ending, shit. Yes. Not to mention you got Chris DeLeah and Brendan Schaub bailing you out with noise. Right. That's sad.

It's pathetic. And so then, 10 minutes later on the show, they're talking about how Diddy's defense is going to be that he was in a drug haze. And so he's not responsible for the freak offs or whatever was going on. Oh, you can say that. Well, that's there. They're saying, no, it's a really terrible defense. It's really the point that they're, they're making him. And so right after he said, yeah, I'm so tired of this Hitler stuff. Listen to the joke that Eric Griffin repeats twice in a row without adding anything to it.

You're responsible for what happens when you are in a state. Hitler was beat up on I love Jews. He said that. It was the Coke. It's like, it'd be did coke, I took some. The OPM permits you anti-Semitic, it's science. You know what I mean? It's like, it'd be so, it's so ridiculous. So Adam Carolla threw out the Hitler joke. Yeah, he was also on drugs.

And then Eric Griffin repeated it twice, Mayhem repeated it again. They didn't add anything to it. They're all just going, yeah, Hitler loved Jews. He was on drugs, what'd he like Jews, what'd he want? Sober, huh? Waka Waka. For those who were just listening it looked like somebody flipped a switch and turned on Griffin he just like exploded with all of this like oh I'm a sidekick emotion and just

started hitting with all this over the top left. But he repeated the same joke twice in a row without changing it. I think he's used to being around hacks that do that sort of thing. So I was embarrassed for him on this, and I wasn't going into this thinking, like honestly I didn't watch this thinking, oh this will be good fodder for WATP. I was watching this because I watch Adam Carolla from time to time, and I thought the topics that were on the thumbnail were interesting. So I'm like, oh, okay, let's see what their take is. And then I went, this is cringe of the week and then I went hold on a second We got to figure out what else Eric Griffin is up to and I'm happy to report He does have a solo podcast. I don't know how this has escaped our radar

riffin with Griffin for all this time we're gonna get into that in a second, but I Want to talk a little bit more about this appearance with Adam Carolla, because I really think he dropped the ball on it. They're talking about the LAPD shooting Jillian Lauren, who's Scott Shriner's wife, the bassist of Weezer. This is pretty big news in the last week or two.

Everyone has heard about this. And so they're bringing this up and they're all a little confused. They don't know how many rounds were shot and what happened, they're watching video that came out and they're trying to make sense of it. She racks a round in the chamber and at that point the gun's ready to fire.

So the cops took preventative measures and emptied three clips at her her only hidden her once in the shoulder That's always the most disturbing part. I heard like 13 shots and one grazed her. Mm-hmm. What the fuck are they shooting at? Okay so It's been established one shot in the shoulder and It grazed her now listen to what Eric Griffin says not long after that.

But haven't they done an autopsy on her already? Like all that? No, she's an autopsy. I thought she was dead. Well, no, I've got hit in the shoulder. And that was only it? I thought that she, oh my God. White lady.

Even may have laughed at her, autopsy? We just said they barely even hit her with all those shots. They fired Yeah, but just in case As he was not when the info was being released he was on his phone He was checking his phone and everyone saw you're sitting at a table with three men and they all saw this serious topic Come up and you check out and then come back as if you knew what you were talking about and wildly miss read and Adam You're very observant. So you saw that and I saw that too, but

He said hit it on the shoulder and then Adam said after he put his phone down it only grazed her So he still should have known he's not paying attention No, he's just out of it and I love that you just said he wanted to act like he knew even though he didn't because this comes up after that I like her husband because Weezer didn't cancel their Coachella gig so it ain't so no they they played two days later they divorced though oh were they yeah I don't know if they're together. No. Yeah, I don't think he cares about her like that.

No, maybe he sent the cops to the hitman. I don't know. I like her. Yeah, they are not divorced. They have two children. They've been married since 2005. I don't know why Eric Griffin said that. If you look at the headlines around this,

they're everywhere. It says Weezer's bassist's wife was shot by the LAPD you couldn't avoid this story they came out Eric Griffin did zero prep doesn't know anything about it even though they're showing the video and explaining what happened but then throws out the I think they're divorced he doesn't give a shit about her I mean even if they are divorced they have kids together I'm sure he'd give a shit about the mother of his children being shot He's so not paying attention that he came up with this like passing joke that he didn't realize completely Deflated the entire argument that was just made about what was happening

He didn't just make a bad joke and not pay attention He tried to ruin what they just said so it's like genuinely hostile Yeah, right if I'm Adam I, I'm pissed because Adam's like, very impressive though. The guy still played Coachella three days later. And Eric Griffin goes, yeah, he doesn't give a shit about that, bitch. Oh.

So what you just said is bullshit anyway. Right, right. He's probably celebrating. Kind of undermines what we were talking about. Yeah, thanks for that, asshole. Appreciate it. All right, Eric Griffin's YouTube channel, 72.7 thousand subs this episode from one week ago. He does them live on Wednesdays has

1245 views 1245 views Eric Griffin Workaholics Golden Hour Adam Carolla show all those stand-up gigs that he does, 1200 views. But the good news is, if you watch that playlist backwards and you see all the videos, it's like he's growing and growing and growing and growing until there's almost a million

when he started. Now six years later. It's like that David Towell joke. I like to watch girls gone wild backwards. It's always like the girls learn their lesson. Being a slut is it for me? We should go. Let's put our clothes on and get out of here. So Riffin with Griffin. This is how the show starts off. Eric fancies himself a singer and I know Adam you are a talented vocalist so I'm interested in your take on this. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to your favorite podcast. with Griffin. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah.

Griffin. Griffin with Griffin. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Welcome back to Griffin with Griffin. What an episode we have today. This guy has a lot of confidence. He had no confidence with Adam Carolla, but when it comes to whoa whoa whoa He's ready for in fact. It even says underneath his name on the screen Eric Griffin Whoo, whoo, whoo or whoa whoa? I don't know what he's singing I don't know if there's only one person I could think of and that's Opie sitting in the wings going this guy is

Nailing the intro. That's how youing the intro that's how you do it that's how you do it right there you just make noises randomly he's recreating that thing like it's showtime at the Apollo when the comic comes out and they play the groove and everyone kind of acknowledges the beat for a second before we launch into the comedy the problem is this is really the entire show he segues from the singing into just morning talk at one point 13 minutes later he goes all right well now it's time to start the show and then he goes right back to talking about whatever he

was talking about. That's it. That's the joke. The other problem is you know making the Apollo reference this is the whitest man I've ever seen on a podcast. He's wearing a Batman shirt. So even though he is a black man, there is no evidence of that at all on his show. So he goes from the singing into more singing, but also teasing the topics that are coming up. This is a topical show. This is the other thing that makes the Santa Carolla thing so funny is that he does a show about the zeitgeist, the whatever's going on in culture and in media. He goes through all of the popular things that are going on. So you'd think he'd like keep up on that sort of thing. But this is him teasing the topics. FDA is about to ban food coloring, see how I feel about that. And I saw some great shows, man, daredevil.

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segment. Because I can't imagine what that's gonna be. How do you feel about giving children poison I'll tell you about that coming up stick around for that turns out he's not into it anti poison for children Wow, okay good stuff Carl. Good. Glad we stuck around for that Something that I've noticed about a lot of these guys that we hone in on is They're constantly talking about what they're going to do? I'm not doing the stuff that I need to be doing right now, but I'm going to do it. And just you wait and see.

My favorite example of this is when Chad told us he was gonna be ripped with a six pack by July. Oh yeah. That was a few years ago. Did that work out? What happened? No, he actually got drunker and fatter by July now. It was too bad.

That was when he claimed that he was an alcoholic and we all took advantage of him. He said that today. He said that to you today, that you were criticizing him during his lowest moment and how dare you. All right, well guess what I'm gonna announce right now. I am at my lowest moment right now, Chance.

You better stop making fun of me. Whoa, Chris! You can't make now I am at my lowest moment right now chance you better stop making fun of me whoa Chris you can't make fun of your lowest moments come on so this is uh all the stuff that's coming up I just did I gotta change my website which is coming I'm talking to the guy you know I got a fun little website coming so plus my room podcast room is coming I swear I comment so plus my room. Podcast room is coming. I swear. Now, you know my motto on this sort of thing. Yeah, just do it.

Don't talk about it. Don't tell me it's going to get better. I have art that's going to go up on the water. Bring it up every day. We're just going to get up on the wall eventually that you'll see it. The phrase podcast room just smacks of some argument. He's currently having with his wife.

Oh, you picked up on that too. I'm like, why doesn't he say studio? Why isn't he saying studio? My podcast room. Well, you you already have your the basement and now you have your podcast room and we have a son now. It's just like now is your band practice gonna be? Yeah, right. Well, right. Griffin with Griffin could be a band too. It's a lot of riffs. I found out something about Eric Griffin, I didn't know. So right now he's promoting his comedy club shows that are coming up.

He's got the list of dates on there. But he's also entering into a certain part of his career as a comedian that we see with a lot of these guys. But, and then I got some bunch of Matt Rife shows in between there at these stadiums and stuff that he's doing so that's pretty great so you want to check that out too guys. So he's opening for a real headliner. I shouldn't say real headliner he's opening for a guy who sells out very large venues and we saw this with Vic Henley he was doing that with Ron White you'd brag about all the time Chad Zumach of course loves

opening for people who can sell tickets because he's not selling any of them Kevin Brennan was doing this with Louis CK up until the fact that Louis CK I think started banging a chick that he decided to make the feature act for him but this is like what comedians who don't make it oftentimes do or they don't make it to that level. They made it to a certain point. Eric Griffin's made it to a certain point. Obviously, like I saw Alonzo Bowden open for Seinfeld

in Vegas and you're like, I know that name, but if he came to your local comedy club, he'll be like, we gotta go see Alonzo Bowden. You know, you'd be like, oh, I saw him open for Seinfeld. It was pretty good. That's kind of more where that fits into. So I think Eric Griffin is making that transition into, guys, I have 20 minutes I can do.

The audience will get warmed up for you. Can you just please put me on your tour, pay me a couple thousand bucks? In the future, can you associate me with this good time you had? Right, yes. Just to be clear, opening for a stadium show is just a good gig. It's really a high-paying good gig that gets you exposure. I think we all know, and I'm assuming most comedians would agree, that a stadium is not necessarily the best venue for stand-up comedy. For subtle spoken word, but if you get that big and you can

service that kind of audience, you go for it. It's rare in comedy. It doesn't happen very often, but when it does, for him to be a part of it, I think what we're seeing now based on that Adam Carolla thing is he's just checked out. Yeah, he's making money, he's got a bunch of gigs, he hasn't noticed that his audience has dwindled down to like 10% of what it started with because he's probably still paying everybody and doing the thing and nobody has corrected him in years.

Even his friends, he was acting like a kid who hadn't left the house in a while, hanging out with Corolla. You know, he just looked like he hadn't been around other men in a while and he doesn't care. He's just doing his thing. People laugh, they don't. He's gonna be in a good mood and collect his check and move on and I don't know if he's ever really cared that much but yeah I think you're right and Matt right that's

interesting person that he's teamed up with that's a that's a good one I don't know how long that's gonna last for the Matt right thing who knows are you ladies ready to get horny Who knows are you ladies ready to get horny? You pick an opener that makes you look better in bands They'll sometimes limit your DB level so you're not as loud as the headliner like what does he have to offer that Matt? Rife doesn't yeah, Louis CK was like, you do make me look a lot better, but this broad is going to make me look awesome. Everyone has a political statement they want to make, and they're all hiding behind something with their opener choice. Yeah, I've pointed this

out many times. I've gone to see a lot of these theater shows where there's a guy who opens for the comic and they're usually terrible, like surprisingly bad at comedy. Dean Del Rey opens for Bill Burr, I don't know if he still does, but he was for a long time. Dean Del Rey wouldn't sell a ticket at Comic-Doc. Dean Del Rey's good, but he's also the opposite of Bill Burr. He's not like thought out to the word,

intellectual like new experiences. He's a party drinking guy. Like what was it? Letterman wanted Tom Snyder to go on after him, which is like new experiences. He's a party drinking guy. Like what was it, Letterman wanted Tom Snyder to go on after him, which is like his opener. You always want someone who's a little less or offers something else that you don't. It shows you how insecure Matt Rife is that he'd be like, I need someone older.

Right, that's a good point, yeah. And yeah, totally from a different world. All right, Eric Griffin is gonna start with some hot takes here um what's happening like okay right off the bat let me just tell you something that's going on man I got a bone to pick with Netflix man my god these wait why am I so my head is getting cut off I don't like that what's going on on there? You know what I mean? What is happening with that? But okay, so Netflix, man, this is crazy.

What I like about this, first off, it's the Netflix be crazy yo setup, which I'm like, wow, this is gonna be a good segment. But also he realizes that he has no headspace in the shot and he points it out. It seems to bother him and he doesn't adjust anything. He doesn't touch the camera. He doesn't move his chair. He just goes, oh, this is not good. I'm not centered at all. So anyway, Netflix is crazy. I heard three people got fired immediately after. I'm sure they did. Yes. got fired immediately after. I'm sure they did yes. Let's find out why Netflix is so crazy and Eric Griffin this is a boomer move. Wolf just got the remote and he's just pressing

and press the Netflix button and he's just pressing and pressing and the next thing you know I'm being charged nine dollars a month. It shouldn't be that easy Netflix you know I'm saying a 14 month old should not be able to grab the remote press three buttons and now being charged nine dollars a month that's crazy so I actually had to call Netflix they have customer support which I actually didn't think was a thing normally it's like you know some bot or some AI or you know orders like certain hours but it was like three o'clock in the morning and I because I was up I came home from the club. He called Netflix so his son hits

the remote signs him up for whatever a shared account or something cost him more in his account so he picks up the phone at 3 a.m. and calls Netflix. Any normal person would go on the website, Netflix.com I believe is the address. They'd log into their account and they'd deactivate whatever was just activated. He has to call a person and be like, um, I don't know, Mr. Netflix, so I don't know what my account number is or my password,

but can you make sure I don't have to pay him nine dollars a month more than i'm paying? And then let's take it a step further that experience happened and he went I have got to make this a segment on my show It's the first thing you talk about You nailed it this he you you nailed exactly what we're seeing. This is that boomer thing I used to say as a joke. oh yeah, you know, yeah, I'm on the Facebook. I used to say the Facebook until I realized nobody thought I was kidding. I look and act like a person who would call it the Facebook. He, I don't know much about him, but I'm assuming he does not realize that he has turned into a dad. He has not

made that transition and he still thinks he's cool and doesn't realize these are dad jokes and dad takes and the second dad picks up the phone to call a website 80% of your audience is laughing at you not with you I didn't even know they had customer support no one does I can't buy everything in this story because if you got home from the club at 3 a.m. This is what you're doing. Yeah, so either you didn't get home from the club at 3 a.m. And this is what you're doing Oh interesting opposite. Yeah Either way, it's very John John also had Netflix and mr. Amazon and mr. Netflix on speed dial And patreon let's not forget that. Oh, he met with them to

got a big meeting with the CEO patreon about Carl Lincoln and discord. Very interested in that. So then Eric Griffin doesn't really have a lot to say about this except for what we already heard but just keeps repeating it over and over again. It's crazy that a baby could grab the remote and just pressing buttons you you're now charged for a new service. Yep it's crazy man I know I mean I thought it was crazy the first time you said it but now I'm convinced how crazy. But it's new information I didn't even know this was going on so I'm happy that he's hipping me to the new stuff. The guy has no takes on anything. This is the thing that I've

learned about Eric Griffin. He's so milquetoast. He wraps up this little segment about Netflix be crazy yo. Absolutely bananas. So that's what's going on with that though. Kid is a cutie though. You'll hear him chuckle often on the show. It's tough doing a show by yourself, I understand. But it's like Mr. or Dr. Hibbert has his own podcast. He's like, oh, he does it a lot.

You're gonna hear multiple examples of this. But it'd be bananas, y'all. It'd be crazy, y'all. Then you're right, I think he's used to being in a group of people and he keeps laughing and looking around at no one, expecting someone to step in and save him. It's funny that the Golden Hour guys, Chris D'Elia has his own solo show, Brendan Schaub has his own solo show. I think he still does. I haven't looked in a while. And of course, Eric Griffin has this one. They're all terrible at it. They're're really bad in the group But at least they could talk over each other and scream those producers to look at and hey, man

Didn't you say you saw a thing on a website or something? Can we Google something for our audience? When it's just a guy like Eric Griffin sitting there for an hour. Yeah, I Know Delia does the same thing just laughs at nothing Yeah, I hope someone does a deep dive. I hope we do it here of Chris D'Alia's new special. It is one for the Smithsonian. Bonus show. Yep. And you want to come on WTP bonus show and do Chris D'Alia's special. I would love to get blind mic on too.

I always I never appreciated how Louis CK addressed his situation because he's so smart and nuanced about everything else. But he had such a general passing take on his own stuff. What Crystal Leah does the performance the like he thinks he's in a few good men he thinks he's jack Nicholson on on the stand. He has to force tears like john looking up anyway I would love to save it for the bonus. He has to force tears like John looking up. Anyway, I would love to get into it. I'm ready. Now. So you just heard him transition into but ah, but he's a cutie. So he's talking about his 14 month old son and boy is he a proud papa. This goes on for

quite a while where he tells you about how cute his kid is and how the kid falls asleep in his arms and he walks around the house with the kid asleep. And it's just things that if you were catching up with a buddy, you'd be staring up at ESPN going, oh, Yankee's up by three runs, huh? All right, cool. Are they bringing in a relief pitcher? What do you think's going on here?

Because this is boring. So today I put him down on the couch and I put on Miss Rachel you know he loves Miss Rachel so he's just looking chilling like chilling watching Miss Rachel. I think I have a video of that too. Yeah I do. Oh great. Yeah let's look at that. So I have him you know he's watching this video of miss Rachel you know and you know just in the living room chilling and here we go here's the video you know what I mean just locked in you know what I mean kid is locked in right you know what I mean? Kid is locked in, right?

You know what I mean? He says that a lot too. There's a lot. He talks a lot without saying anything on this show. I have examples of that coming up. But this idea that there's a seven second clip of his son watching television and he's like, can you guys believe it? Now, Chris D'Elia and Brendan Shaw would be like all over it. Oh man. My kid does this blah blah blah, and they'd be all

Excited my kids were locked in than yours They're all excited about this by the way his kid might be smarter than he is a kid was able to sign up for a Netflix Account that is true the remote control Grumps a retard Oh, their grumps are retired. So there's that. But he might be slow. I can't think of anything more boring than showing a video of, I mean, he's very proud papa.

So, you know, he wants to show off. He's got another photo that he wants to show us. And then he just, he climbs on me and then, that's a workout. This is what we ended up being. You know what he just on me man, I don't know by the way Eric Griffin looks a lot like my former co-host Kevin Kevin and DG oh shit a little DG in there, too Wow Alright, so

There's a photo of his son sleeping on him and he's making a face. Who is this for? Yeah, this would be for his family, right? grandparents aunts and uncles mom This is not Anything that is podcast audience would care, which is why he's had 1200 views on the show in a week. You know Katy Perry just launched this tour and everyone's making fun of it?

I don't know if you've seen any clips. Oh I have. And it raises that question like she doesn't have any friends. No one can tell her. And you look at this stuff and it's like, you know, it's easy to hate on a Katy Perry. It's hard to hate on a guy being like, I love my son, isn't he awesome sleeping? But there is that part of me that's like, yes, I love it too, but this is not a show. And someone needs to tell you that.

And as a parent, you have that moment where you realize like, Oh, every parent feels this way. I have to bring it in a little. Like, this is a little silly. I I can't no one's told him that no one's told him that no everyone thinks that their little boy is the cutest little boy in the world as they should but it's not a show for more than 1,100 people he's got a big family it won't go on Facebook so this is all they get yeah my favorite take on Katy Perry, there was a tweet that Anthony Kumia put out

where it shows her doing that stupid dance that everyone's making fun of, and he wrote, thank God we're allowed to use the word retarded again, because there's no other way to describe this. Thought that was eloquent. All right, so talking about the family, talking about the kid for a long time,

and then we segue into the next segment of the show it's pretty amazing it's pretty amazing so that's wolf he's getting big it's pretty amazing this thing uh you know anyways let's go i haven't done this in a while, but let's get some I think I haven't done the comments in a while I thought you could say content Responded let's see Hmm are we interrupting something sir? I'm sorry You told us to be here at this time, so we thought we should show up But something's wrong the big fat guy isn't laughing. He said he's not being jolly

He got all choked up looking at photos of his kid, and then he's just he was lost for a second there amazing podcast If he invited me over to his house, and then did that I'd be like okay. I guess I gotta go Yeah, and don't want us here, So you just heard what he's segueing to Reading comments I went whoa this is gonna get worse What are you talking about your reading comments now? I assume to be reading the people who are chatting because this is a live show and There's almost no one yet. There's no one watching. There's no one chatting what he literally does is he goes back to old videos

He's posted and finds comments and this is him reading a comment and reacting to it. Let's see some girl Jennifer barefoot says Matt needs a dad he has the best dad friend listen to him Matt he's so right. Yeah, Matt. What the fuck was that? Some random person wrote something I don't understand out of context. Cool. This Saturday, old internet news.

Yeah, right, yeah, right. What's the point of this? Who cares when somebody commented? And his contribution to it was to slightly dismiss her. Some girl. Yeah. Your fan who supports you and left a comment about it alright, so they finally he finally gets into some content and He's talking about

Shannon sharps accuser there is a 50 million dollar civil suit and Shannon sharp was I guess Dating or sleeping with this girl is much younger than him and now she's decided that it was inappropriate And bad things happened and she was I say it and stuff like that So this is Eric showing photos because it just recently came out, you know It was a Jane Doe and now we know who this accuser is and she has an only fans account on Instagram So he's checking that out. Listen to the brilliant commentary he has when describing Shannon Sharpe's accuser.

Let's just take a look and see what we working with here. Okay. Oh, I mean they met at the gym apparently. She got 500,000 followers. And I don't know, what are we going to say here? I mean she's also an OnlyFans model. This is her OnlyFans. Ooh, here we go.

Now you talking girl. Stop flirting with that fruit Yeah, you know I mean So this is a girl what I mean, yeah, I mean, you know what I mean fruit what I mean, I mean, you know what I mean fruit What? Is she hot? We're gonna show you a bunch of pictures of really hot women while your wife watches you go. You're right. That's what that was I guess if you like attractive skinny blonde girls

Is that watermelon? Is that cassava melon? Oh that looks real good. That looks real good That was so lame. This guy never had to take on to take on anything because he doesn't have a podcast room yet As soon as I get that room it's gonna have a sign that says takes on Don't come in here when the takes on sign is on it's happening All right, so this is more Like a perfect example of him talking a lot without saying anything. You know, that's no ifs, ands, or buts.

No pun intended, you know? And then when you're on her profile, like most, like a lot of the hot girls on Instagram right now, oh, you click a link. And where does this link take you? Oh VIP OnlyFans. Okay so whatever that means to you, if you're into that, this is the kind of girl that you know he likes. Whatever that means, here's our OnlyFans account, whatever that means, if you're into that sort of thing, because for me like girls getting naked on the internet, I'm like I have a wife. Don't know anything about it. So when you see an OF charge on the bill that's not me

because I clearly said right now I don't even know about what's the date what's the date right so I clearly don't know whatever that means to you if you're into that I mean go ahead and explain it to the audience what it does that mean what are you saying he's not saying anything. And just for the record, if this were a Cardiff game, and he just let us read that entire response, everyone would vote Stuttering John. You're right. Who said it? So she's got a thing. And I gotta go. And what happens? I have to pay. Like, it's the same thing. something's going wrong over here. You heard me tease earlier

That he's gonna have a hot take on food coloring and the FDA cracking down on certain types of food coloring So I was excited to get to this part of the show because I don't know What kind of hot take he was gonna have on this but he starts talking about? RFK Jr. You know, and he's not as good as they say he is, he's not as bad as they say he is. But what I'm trying to say is, I think this is a good thing. I think the things that he's trying to do in terms of like,

you know, looking at food, I think is important. Do you think the FDA, looking at food, is important? I do too, Eric. See like what they should be doing actually. Seeing specifically what they should be up to looking at food. And I'm sorry to repeat myself but if anyone heard just that dialogue would they not be convinced that was an OP take? That's so OP and I actually this next clip I have, I wrote down this is OP level conspiracy talk. You know what I mean? The vaccine companies are hiding everything that they're doing and the food people are hiding everything that they're doing. They sure are, Eric. You gotta watch out for those food people and those vaccine people. I have no thoughts, nothing.

This is, who would tune in for this? Who would know about what's going on with the FDA and be like, I wonder what Eric Griffin has to say about this? He's just like, yeah, it seems like a good thing that they would like, like wanna get rid of these food colorings that aren't used in any other country because they've been found to be harmful to humans.

So they decided to probably get those out of the food. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Okay, cool. I'll be on my way then. I'm so glad you asked who's listening to this because I did a little bit of research and from what I could gather and you see it on a lot of shows. These this is the chat. This is the chat. This is the chat that has remained since it was,

you know, half a million, a million an episode, now to 1,200. These are those 1,200 that have been there since the beginning, because what they're talking about in the chat and what they're liking, and they're all positive, they're all supporting it, these are their friends. This is, they've spent the last two decades

with this person, and it's a real relationship for them. and he can do no wrong. Just hearing about his day, hearing his voice is what they do every day and that's why he's so unfunny right now because this is the world he's surrounded in. On top of that thousand people that are supporting every giggle he makes, there's one guy that works for him every day when he leaves and goes into his car that says, hey, you killed it today. And he believes that guy. That's the guy he trusts. So as far as he knows, he's killing it.

But you're right. When you see a chat room where everyone's just talking to each other, when we used to watch Stuttering John's political show and it was Benny Loco and Andrea and whoever else were the moderators back then. Kinky Loco. Not Kinky Loco, but I forget who the other one was. But anyway, they would be in there and just like saying hi to each other and then a new person would come in and say hi to them and then they would say hi back to them again and then they'd be talking about

their day or what they have going on later No one's paying attention to this. Yeah, Eric Griffin is just like oh, this is where my friends hang out I was going out with my friends for an hour on Wednesday. That's the core of every fandom That's what those are the people hanging on when the band no longer makes good music right? They're not there for the music They're there never this Community that they've built you see that in the TSN chat all the time. It's exactly what you described It's friends that are supported saying hi to each other, and there's also a band playing good It's just an excuse for us to get drunk It's the opposite of what Kevin Brennan is doing when he's saying you didn't pay me five dollars this month

Let me dox your son, right? It's cultivating an audience It's you know, it's not entertainment, but it's a part of it that you need for a long-term career That's all he has left on this project Well, this is my last clip on here kind of sums up the show and the hot takes that we get from Eric and make a difference. You know, that's what I think. So hopefully this will be the change, you know, that we need. You know what I mean? Yep. Good stuff. Who is he talking to? No one. He's got nothing. Going back to my earlier example of when I talked

to Ray DeVito and I told him how to run a successful podcast and he went three bullet points. Got it. That's what this was. He took a couple photos of his kid earlier that day. He had three things he wanted to talk about. He had zero takes for any of them. Yeah, I guess this girl's like an OnlyFans girl or something. I don't know what that,

if you're into that sort of thing. I guess Shannon Sharpe's like into like girls who are young and attractive. I don't know. It's not for me, but what? I could do that. I'm confused by everything. Right. You'd be perfect for this show. He has settled into celebrity and given up being. Yeah, I think you're right. Thank God Adam's not a celebrity because we'd hate to see that you settle down. Or a comedian. Settle into that. One, two, three, four, five. Riding a bike in the ride to conquer cancer is like being part of humanity's greatest. The money you raise, the time you spend,

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Some are on and some deranged stories that are very strange So I talked about this on the previous episode of who are these podcasts that Anthony put out a tweet linking to Scorch's live stream and Then chatted in the chat with Scorch's livestream and then chatted in the chat with Scorch and said hey man hope you're doing well something like that and Scorch was like that's not Anthony Kumia like oh maybe it is so then he did find out that it was Anthony and that Anthony was the one who's promoting Scorch and Anthony was really cool about it too he's guys, Scorch is a great guy. Go support him, check out his show.

So nothing nefarious involved in it. So Scorch decided to put out a stream just for Anthony to hear. I don't know why this right here, it can't relate court scorch so well It's everything you can think about he's in a motorhome in a chair that was built in the 60s or 70s I would say like a pleather chair Yeah, the previous owner died on probably you would stick to that if any of your skin was exposed

Probably pull your skin off and if I were to show you just that clip you just showed us and said what is this? You would say well, it's in hostage. That's a hostage video This man is clearly being held against his will and is about to read the demands that are Second now yeah, what does Scorsese first? Not his hero just reached out to him supporting him and now he's gonna say something nice in return. All right. Let's let's see Hey, what's going on you guys it is scorch and We know He's so used to being on the radio. Yeah. Hey guys, just you know, this is scorch

We're looking at it buddy. That was bad company and you're right. We know I Want to address this after all these years? I want to address a special video to Anthony Koumea Anthony I heard Perhaps the other day you've met... We're already off to a great start. Get your thoughts together before you start this. I want to address a special video to Anthony Kubia.

Wait, you're addressing a video or you're recording a video to Anthony Kubia? I just want to. I might not. It's almost like he's addressing another video that he did. But it's not. This is the video. It has the vibe of those wrestling promos. Yeah, like we got it. We got to do this again show video to Anthony Coo me a Anthony I heard Perhaps the other day you mentioned either scorches PFG TV Or dive bar locator dive bar locator calm remember don't drink and drive subscribe and that You mentioned either Scorch's PFG TV or Dive Bar Locator.

Dive Bar Locator.com. Remember, don't drink and drive, subscribe. And that. I love, every time he says Dive Bar Locator.com, he has to say, don't drink and drive. The tagline is where being a dive bar doesn't mean shit. Not don't drink and drive. That's not a good tagline for an app.

But he always says that, he doesn't have the disclaimer. Drink responsibly everyone at a dive bar with $5 pitcher night. Okay. That's what everyone does at dive bars, drink responsibly. Or dive bar locator, divebarlocator.com. Remember don't drink and drive, subscribe,

and pick up the app. I heard you may have mentioned us on your show and I just really want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart because if you did do that, there's no question. I got a spike in numbers this past week and if you didn't do that, that's a classy move. I don't know the motive behind it yet. I would love all right, so I like that He's cautiously optimistic here. He's like Anthony good on you. I've heard some things I've been betrayed before now you might be

Maybe goofing out me to my face But I desperately want to know what his other options were for why he had this bump in in views right? Well the other funny thing too is that it was a tweet he put out that linked to this and he's like, I heard you might have maybe talked about me on your show. I did this weird thing. I researched shit just so I know what I'm talking about before I go. I know it's crazy. You would understand. He's like flirting. He's like flirting like I don't know maybe could be you. I don't know. I got a poke on Facebook. Maybe that was from... Classy move. I don't know the motive behind it yet. I would love to find out why because you and I have had weird heat

Quote-unquote over the years everybody all the ONA people say oh, you know what? They loved you They loved you, but a lot of times. It's gone a little too far at least in my eyes It's got a little too far and I'm we're past that brother. I'm 62 years old I think you're a little bit older than that You know Let's respect you can't that's all that's all I'm saying. Let's respect one another and let's maybe try some other things Let's see what we can do. Let's talk You can probably get a hold of me. There's no way am I gonna put my telephone number out? And no one's asking you to yeah

You don't have one See talking about you can get a hold of me I like that all of a sudden now they're partnering together Uh-huh in scorch his mind and he says something nice about him and send people over to watch if it's him if it's in right And now he's going if you need a co-host at your show. I could possibly make some time Certain days of the week for the hats if your hearts in the right place we can go places man, right? We can make my work, but the onus is on you to get in touch with me and I won't tell you how what a weird way to communicate with someone get in touch with my people like Mike is my

people how do I get that with him no idea can probably get a hold of me there's no way am I gonna put my telephone number up just like for our bad You'll see it For the masses just because of everything that's always gone on However, if you can get a hold of me, I would love to talk to you because you know, we have a history Let's face facts. It started with the the undertaker's coffin and then the sam adams brewery Remember the sam adams brewery. That's when it really started to come together and I don't know what happened between so funny to put out a video for one person specifically with

Reminiscing about things they remember because they worked together in boston at waaf That was their first time that they got to know each other. And then Sam Roberts, who was an intern for Opie and Anthony, went on to take over Opie's slot, was an intern for Scorch and Syracuse. So he came with Scorch Stories, Opie and Anthony had Scorch Stories, so that was a big reason why they like to talk about Scorch.

And then when Scorch came out with PF PFG TV Started making videos from bars and stuff. That's when he became part of jocktober pretty regularly and part of the open Anthony fodder But so he's literally talking to one person in a medium that is global This is this is syndicated globally. He's like, Anthony, what's up, man? Hey, did you remember that time that you and I did that thing with WWF and the Undertaker? Which, by the way, that's a funny story. So apparently, the WWF had this coffin match, you know, like, whoever loses going into a coffin, it's the Undertaker versus whoever and so the WWF was like Oh, you know what we'll do is

we'll prop up these coffins on the side of the ring and open it and they will lay in them and Watch the match from them And they didn't know that this was a thing that the radio station has set up for them So they get to the arena and they're told yeah You guys are gonna be in those coffins right there during this match and both Open either like no, we're not that's ridiculous. We're definitely not doing that. So then Anthony goes Hey Scorch This coffin so that that's the coffin story

He's so excited to land his coffin. So that's the coffin story. Sam Adams Brewery, that's when it really started to come together. And I don't know what happened between the Sam Adams Brewery and this day and this day in history, I really don't know, but I would love to find out. I have no problem burying any hatchet.

I think you did a classy move. Yes, it did help Certainly did so thank you from everybody and the whole crew from the pfg TV school, I know Let's bring in the whole crew Mike When do I get a fucking thank you I promoted his dive bar locator more than anyone but alright fine Just thank Anthony I'm just glad if he's unconsciously talking to someone it's finally not Megan

Yeah, at least he's talking directly to somebody else. I hope Megan shows up on the show again. I'm feeling so bad. Just keeps blowing him off. Everybody and the whole crew from PFGtv, Scorch's PFG TV, and of course, DiveBarLocator.com. Remember, DiveBarLocator.com. Don't drink and drive. Anthony Cremia, classy move, brother. Alright, so that's our buddy Scorch. Can I just add something to this really? Please. I used to program documentaries for a film festival, and when you look at a lot of documentaries, you learn really fast that everyone has a Homeless wacko in their hometown and one person a year will feel compelled to make a documentary about their local Hometown thing so you watch this civilian get involved in the local homeless person's life thinking they're gonna help them or save them

Inevitably the more they help them the worse the inevitably. The more they help them, the worse the situation becomes. The more entangled they are and it never ends well. And no matter how good your heart or intentions are, you always end up wishing you never got involved. Anthony, he just tweeted out, everyone check out this guy's show, and this guy's response is like a hostage negotiation. Apology, reunion, it had the couples therapy mixed with like a you know it's time for you to stop using drugs like it was everything and I always killed me that Howard wouldn't pay the whackpackers you know this is why because when you get too involved or you give them too much of anything

It doesn't work out and I hate to beat the same drum But it shows you why stuttering John is a whack packer because it's the whack packers that can't make that Transition from wacky goofy thing. We laugh at the joke To employee Benji could lots of people can John loves to say no one can go you always thought of me as an intern No, just you and this guy scorch is reminding everyone You need to keep a distance and don't be too nice. Don't get too involved because their minds can't handle it That's interesting that you say that have you seen Anthony's response to this yet no well that's ever gonna watch right now so I did watch this and he's going to respond to our buddies scorch so they're starting to show the

guys Anthony Koumea classy move brother you're very welcome mr. scorch I like I said I like scorch I would wish wish any ill will toward the guy. He's out there, he's living the dream, man. This is his dream, he's living it. And I only wish him the best. I'll get in touch with him. I'll get in touch with Scorch. There we go.

Have a conversation with him and stuff. Because, you know, why not? Why not why not so let's see what we could do for his his app and his pfg TV May we get him a few gallons of gas for that that RV. He's he's going around and I'm sure it doesn't have I'm sure it doesn't get many MPG many miles per gallon get many uh MPG, many miles per gallon. PFG MPG. It doesn't get it because it's like from the 70s I think. I think this is a 1976 motor home. But Scorch, I'm in your corner babe. I'm in your corner Scorch and and uh I'll get in touch with you, we will talk. If anyone can clip this and send it to Scorch, do that.

I'm in your corner? Yeah, let's do something. There you have it. Anthony is on board. He is ready to go. So maybe this is the new co-host, but boy would that piss off Suddory John. Scorch becomes the co-host of the Anthony Kubia show. That'd be great.

You know what? Dolphins are the only animal that kill for fun. That's true. They'll just take a fish and fuck with it, not for food. I would say in this instant, Anthony's a bit of a dolphin and he is fucking with this man, knowing that you can't just say that. Like this is the beginning of the road movie where Scorch and his friends gotta get in Wabc in 24 hours in order to bag Marilyn Monroe or something right like this guy cannot handle what Anthony just said and Anthony Knows that Mike. I love you, but Anthony's taking over

Megan it's over This will be interesting I like Anthony's approach. He's just like, listen, we're on your side, we're on your team, I'll be in touch, we'll figure this out. I can't wait to see where this goes. I hope that those two team up and they create something together. I think it'll be good. Now, you pointed something out to me, producer Chris. Someone named Goonie856 posted underneath one of Scorch's videos.

He said, I randomly started watching a show on Tubi called Deep Undercover, and on episode 33, Scorch makes his introduction as a gang member for a biker gang, and he's in multiple episodes after. It caught me off guard. I was like, holy shit, it's Scorch! You guys need to check it out. So I did, and I have the clips.

Let's see Scorch in some of his acting work. This is really what he was made for, I think. Mark will insert himself into a notorious motorcycle gang called the Diablos an FBI informant already a member of the club introduction the Diablos aren't weekend warrior wannabes they sell drugs steal and use violence to intimidate anyone they choose to don't drink and they don't like cops what could possibly go wrong Now purely listen to this Scorch is one of the the gang members and they're like exchanging money very awkwardly

I've never seen a drug deal like that like oh you take this way But then a cop walks by and scorches giving him the side I like you motherfucker take you down Board here guys Whenever somebody accuses stuttering John of doing something that's truthful and he does that huge scrunched face, huh? What I'm substitute teaching that's the face that scorches just right you think he's so he doesn't have a speaking role And yet he's over acting somehow Line He's uh, so he doesn't have a speaking role and yet he's overacting somehow Lined Uh, this is a fun scene right here where scorch denies a black person being part of his gang

Because uh, no minorities shall apply This group was beyond ruthless. They don't allow minorities to belong. They don't treat women very well They have a multiple arrest for street violence I love the black guy walking into these bikers. One guy's like get out of here Moving along son lock the doors Like it's a diner counter in 1955 in Mississippi like ah we don't serve your kind here They don't treat women very well guys hand is on her shoulder

What's this made of? This is a tour notorious biker gang I have one more clip. I just thought this was funny. I guess scorch serve some time for manslaughter Some of them had served time for manslaughter, and we're now out Watching badass scores the best Tell everyone's to do that's really something very revealing here where when we see him on his own He seems kind of like a rougher individual But when you see him around actual tough people he seems very much the opposite

He seems like he's pretending he seems like he's not a tough guy and when he's in the bar around bikers and things they Might not accept him as one of their own and see him as kind of a poser That's well said. That's all I can think of when I'm watching this stuff. And it's like they do mix in some real footage that's actually of this biker gang and stuff. You're like, Oh yeah, that's those are the real guys who were doing this shit. Oh yeah, that's Scorch. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. And I like Scorch. I like watching him, but when he, he's doing his thing,

sometimes like, boy, I wouldn't want to get on his wrong side. I wouldn't want to piss him off. And now I see him next to these guys. I'm like, yeah, you could piss him off. It's fine. He's not going thing sometimes like boy. I wouldn't want to get on his wrong side I wouldn't want to piss him off and now I see him next to these guys. I'm like yeah, you could piss him off It's fine. He's not gonna do anything pop his collar a little higher. He wouldn't even throw his toothpick You don't have to worry about how do you think this happened? I mean the scorch have an agent. Yeah. Oh Okay, I just didn't think he had an agent. Yeah, I think he's always looking for extra work He's been involved in wrestling like I was talking about before and he's been involved in a lot of things He's in show business The business show if you're willing to allow yourself to be a specific type if you're like I am tough guy number four forever

Right you'll get work because somebody's always gonna need tough guy number four forever. Right? You'll get work because somebody's always going to need tough guy number four. Somebody needed it and there he is and wherever he was at the time how many were there that might have a sad card or be able to work or have any kind of resume. It gets smaller and smaller and smaller until you're like hello mr. scorch we need you. All right I want to talk about another tough guy that we have to deal with. I know. Let's try to get through this together. I want to thank Stalin 19, the fabulous YouTube clipper. We're just watching some of his stuff from Anthony show. He's also clipping some OP stuff this week that I'm excited to get into. So, OP is constantly just getting trolled by the comments,

having no control over it at all, and banning people. You've pointed out the similarities between him and Stuttering John. It's just getting worse and worse. I have examples of him like kind of leaning into the things that we make fun of him for, because he thinks that's going to work, but it's too far gone. It's not going to work, that ship has sailed. And this is a trolling comment. Let's say hi to Marks499.

Hey, Hope, just found out you do a livestream. I loved ONA, looking back, did you like your role on the show, or did you wish you were one of the, okay, thanks, Marks, you're really huge. You know, there's plenty of examples all over the internet of you being. So the guy goes, do you wish you were one of the, okay, thanks. You know, there's plenty of examples all over the internet. So the guy goes, you wish you were one of the funny ones. And that's what I hope he kind of trow it off.

Where did you go right there? And so this is the worst way to respond to a super chat like that. Of examples all over the internet of me being funny. See, that's the problem with reading this shit cold. So let me ban him. There you go. You know, the oops not funny thing is so stupid. I there's examples of me being funny all over the goddamn place

The exact wrong way to handle that yeah, and i'm laughing at him right now Oh, but you wish you were the funny one. There's so many examples of me being the funny one I'll send you a link email me after the show. I'll send you some links to the ones where I'm the the funny one. Hope he's just a guy. Yeah, just go cake Whatever man, okay, just got blocked. I know why why can he not handle it? Why does he have to address these people and also his hair? So he's doing this on purpose now because everyone's talking about the comb and stuff So now he's like pulling it out and making it crazy on purpose It reminds me of like stuttering John when he had his mustache half shaved or he like put some shit on his microphone

So that's just like see you guys. I'm leaning into it. I know I'm disheveled Yeah, that ship is sailed bad. We why don't you ever just put do something with your hair so it's down or something so it doesn't look like a complete wreck when you go on your show the other thing that really gets to opi aside from the comb stuff because that's been coming up a lot in the chat is of course his mouth looks like it's purple possibly black and he hates that purple, possibly black. And he hates that. About China. People have no idea how much products would cost to make here you would pay 10 times as much for mouth dye made in the USA mouth dye. I don't I don't understand what

you get. Yeah, you make a very, very good point. If you made a lot of these products in in America, it would, it would cost an insane amount of money. Yeah, that was the point he was trying to make. It was definitely a thing about tariffs and not talking about how your mouth looks like the penguin. Mouth die, I don't know what you're talking about. That's the other worst thing you could do is pretend you don't know.

Yeah. I don't know what that means, mouth die. Has he actually not figured out the bit yet that we all, anyone who just even saw only this episode would go, Oh, they say something nice in the beginning and then it gets worse and worse as it goes on and he doesn't know it's coming. Like it took two for me to figure that pattern out as he's still not recognized this. He goes, ah, that's what happens when you cold read these things. That's how you do your entire show. It's all he does is cold read chance. They go wait a second. Why? started out noise. Yeah Here's one. I don't think starts off very nice. He is not happy with this

Ope's been hitting the bottle this morning. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Let's let's get rid of you It says old purple mouth Oh yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Let's, let's get rid of you. It says old purple mouth, Mr. Chris deal. And of course he's getting blocked because people are sticking up for a raging alcoholic. You see anything. The raging alcoholic is I have to be right. I have to be ugly and I have to be a heavy drinker. Right. Is that, is that the game plan nowadays? Go away. So he's created this narrative. We've talked about this before, but he's really going with this now. Is that the reason why anyone says that, you know, we can't open his eyes. He looks Asian and his mouth is dark. So he's probably drinking red wine is because whoever knows that Anthony is ugly and an alcoholic, so they're saying that about me, so it's Anthony's fault.

So somehow he's twisted this into being Anthony's fault that people clone him for these very specific reasons that have nothing to do with Anthony at all. In fact, later on in this program, he brings this up again. You know, I, I, I, I kind of learned about gaslighting and projecting. So all the stuff that, um, that the guy you are defending does raging alcoholic looking like a pile of shit

now Looks like a pile of shit typical Anthony Just leave me alone He goes on his show He's just like this guy looks like a pile of shit Something you're antagonizing him. Hope II if I don't know he's not asses I don't know. I think that you want him to smack back at you after this Now you project that onto me. Oh my god

So weird He's literally doing what he claims is happening to him. Yep, where he says, you know He's literally doing what he claims is happening to him. Yep, where he says, you know Anthony's getting all these people to to say all this shit about me This has nothing to do with anthony and now he's going after anthony for shit That anthony's not telling people to go and Tell opi. He's got a purple mouth and he needs to buy a comb Although anthony did make a funny comb reference on his shoulders But he's not overtly telling anyone to do anything

It'll be just like oh, so you're doing this cuz I Anthony it's how you do this that piece of shit the guy It looks like a pile of crap. No. We're doing this in our spare time right? I was gonna tune in and see what it is a buff is afterwards, but right now Can't we can't understand why a human being would respond to this? in this fashion because We would just explain why our lips are purple. Mm-hmm. Has he even Attempted to explain to us what it is. Oh, he will I do have a clip but it's all great I'm looking at our chat and yeah, that's what people are pointing out. Like how does how can you not see this?

This is not something that people are making up. He must be able to see that his mouth He's been gaslighting us for weeks saying they're not purple. Yes. They're purple. Right now. There's something going on. You can only block so many of us until you're going to have to answer the question. And I don't know if it's lighting or something. I don't think it is. I think there's something going on there. But Opie's going to claim that he's making improvements every single day. You know, that's what I was talking about yesterday with the dishonesty on the social media platforms. You know, I try, I try to live a good life. I really do. I try. I'm not perfect. I work on myself pretty much every day. I try to eat a little better every day. I try to

exercise a little more every day. And and that's not good enough because when someone hates you and they don't have the good stuff, they just make up crap. Okay, it's funny that he talks about how he's working on himself because he's talked about this a lot and I always point to many examples of guys you're not working on yourself because you're still hung up on this. You're still bitter about that. You're still bringing up this thing from 25 years ago. But there was no mention of working himself

mentally or spiritually, trying to improve himself and get himself in the right frame of mind. I'm trying to eat better and exercise more. Cool man, good. No one's calling you fat, no one's saying to eat like shit. No one's ever brought that up, so that's not where the problem lies. How does that affect my life? How are you gonna work out? How are you gonna fix things with that? It doesn't make any sense. Meanwhile, there's a kid in Mississippi who needs a t-shirt. You gotta send him the t-shirt. Working out. Poor Jake Hudson even bought a shirt.

All right. So this is going back to him, you know, being told he has a purple mouth and just can't handle this. Supposedly I got a purple, I don't have a purple mouth. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe there's a shadow when I'm live streaming in this room. If I really gave a shit, maybe I would try to try to light up the scene a little bit more than you don't have to worry about my purple mouth Which is not existent you weirdos Isn't it odd that he would fix this if he cared a little bit But he doesn't care a little bit and yet he still brings it up and responds to every chatter who brings it up He called us weirdos. Oh fuck. He got us with that one

But it's good to know that if he did care about it, he would fix it that I'm glad to hear that. So now we can see all the things he doesn't care about. Maybe if we chatted super chatted a little more, he would be inclined. That's always where it goes to till even though some of these super chats he's getting he's having to block these people. So I don't know if he's gonna get a lot of super chats in the

future. Based on that. This was an interesting thought that he had. He talks about being a celebrity and how horrible that is. And how if he could do it all over again, he would do things differently. But that's all they got. That's all they got when you try to live a good life. And it's kind of sad what people will do to you out there. You know, they just will make up horrendous stuff. I uh, Oh, that's a reason. That's the other thing too. I glossed over this in the last

clip. He's always talking about people making shit up. It's like people are observing your purple mouth. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what it is. We just put up a chat. Eric Nagle was saying that maybe puts Kool-Aid sprinkles on his oatmeal. I don't know. It's possible that people do weird stuff in the morning But no one's like on this channel. No one's making shit up. We speculate from time to time We'll speculate on what's going on why he's doing what he's doing. What's happening. Does he own a comb, right? Those questions come up We don't make shit up in OP's mind because he's talked about this before.

It's like the devil verse is just where you try to get dirt on people and then you just say horrific things about people. Well, what we do is we watch your show and we react to what you say and do. How dare you? How dare you? We don't make shit up about it. We don't like have a backstory that we're trying to nail you on and the opi's mind She's like, oh you guys just making shit up about me. And that's why I was clowning me. There's no self reflection Yes, and if you can't do that what he doesn't understand is opi. I I went down on Jake Hudson rabbit hole and I watched all of his appearances with you and what we don't realize here as members of the Devilverse is that if you go back and you watch Opie from two years ago,

the, it's a different person in every way. And for us who have watched you for years, I'm being serious Opie, the only rational explanation for what you're doing right now is that you've been up all night and it's 5 a.m. and you got wine on your mouth from drinking all night and you're podcasting. That wouldn't make more sense than you being sober and doing this intentionally. What say you, OP? I've done it recently to some really good friends of mine. Yeah, I

got friends too, believe it or not. You know, another dump thing people are I said, I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today. I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today. I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today. I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today. I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today. I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was doing these days. I said, I don't know, I don't know if I would become a public figure if I was starting out today because these people today, oh my god, it's just terrible out there. Adam, we have not rehearsed this ahead of time.

I honestly don't know how you're gonna respond to this. I know it's gonna blow people's minds, but you've reached a certain level of fame in your career and you got famous pretty early on in life. Overall, has it been a positive or a negative or are you neutral on it? What do you think? I really don't have any fame. I can't even weigh in on it. I just know what it's like to be an actor. The times I get recognized are positive and negative. All I know is that Opie went on a 20-minute rant about how the highlight of his Atlanta trip was a Patrice O'Neill fan who recognized his face from the Patrice O'Neill thumbnails, said, oh shit, you're Opie.

And he talked about that. I know more about that than the wedding he went to. It meant so much to him. So right now when somebody says, so what keeps you up at night? And he responds, I'm not drunk, you're drunk, block. Right. It makes us all wonder what's really going on over there.

I don't think his family's with him anymore. I know, I got speculating, we don't know. He's slurring his speech, you gotta watch him with Jake he says when he's on with Jake He goes, you know, I don't make a lot of money doing this Jake, you know I'm not getting the numbers like I used to like he's in reality. He's acknowledging it and it's almost charming It's not this compared to that. He's slurring. He's drunk. He's Alone he's fumbling if I had to use one word, if I played that Jake game, I'd have to use one word that describes him fumbling.

Yeah. Because he's stammering and he's stuttering and he doesn't know how to react to the chat and he's arguing with individual chatters, which we'll see quite a bit. But it's very easy to say once you've made your millions of dollars and you have your beautiful place and you can be like, oh my gosh, if I could do it again,

I wouldn't even wanna be a famous celebrity. It's just not even worth it. And the story you just told about the Uber driver, you reminded me of the clip that we put on the show maybe a year ago where he walked into a building and the security at the building, you wouldn't let him in, goes, hey, you're Opie. And he walked out like whistling. He's like, yep, I get recognized

usually once a day, I still get recognized. And that person reached out to me and said, hey, I saw OPI in my building. I wouldn't know who he was, but I've seen him on one of these podcasts so many times. Yeah, he heard his voice. Right. Yeah, it's hilarious. How his mind doesn't go from that experience to, oh, I should work with them more. Right. It's crazy. That shows you the disconnect. It's a lack of confidence too. He just, he knows. E-Rock chiming in with our wild speculation. I think his family is fine. I don't think it's about that. He just seems like he's spiraling and can't admit to himself He needs to course correct make amends and try something more fulfilling Yeah, not everyone who's struggling is struggling with substances

But this is a struggle that we're watching and look his family might be around but like a lot of the people we talked about today Clearly he doesn't have a close enough relationship with any of them for them to tell him that right stun. Come on, man They're probably not watching there. I guarantee the wife's not watching these videos. No, there'd be a discussion taking place. Now, Opie has learned not to just trust everything that people write in his chat. Finally, the Don day Jim Norton trashed you on his live stream last night. Yeah, I don't care. Don't take your your one of those. You're probably you know what? I'm getting ready. Yeah, cuz I think you're just making up shit

You know, I was stupid for a while. I was buying the I was buying I was taking the bait of Some of the stuff that these people I wanted to trust the people in the chat. I wanted to trust you and And you know, I've gotten bad information to trust you and and you know I've gotten bad information but you know to me it might as well have been true with all the trashing that has gone on for for decades at this point so we're gonna try not to take the bait as much all right there you go Alpie let's see how long that lasts well the only way he did in that time is because Jim Norton goes out of his way to never say Opie's name so he knows that Jim Norton wasn't of his way to never say Opie's name.

So he knows that Jim Norton wasn't trashing him on his livestream the night before. He wishes that would happen. That's too good to be true for Opie because he can finally fight back against Jim, who says nothing. It makes Opie look petty and ridiculous. But I like that he goes, yeah, you know, it turns out you guys are feeding me shit to get me all wound up. And I finally figured out I should stop responding to that stuff all wound up. Doesn't change the format of a show or change it from reading all this stuff. But at least he's like going, I'm going to get a second opinion on that one before I just respond.

And I'll offer up to Eric Dangle. Yeah, his his family might not support this, but who is this we he keeps referring to? He says, we're not going to Eric Dangle. Yeah his his family might not Support this but who is this we he keeps referring to he says we're not gonna do that anymore. Who is we that's the little? Yeah, you're right. It's just you buddy He's got dang lizards comment free coming up and it's a woke up this morning and I got myself a wine Which why is he? Platforming this stuff would be so upset about people calling him out and saying that he has a drinking problem. He's drinking wine.

Because he saw the musical notes and he thought it looked fun and didn't finish the sentence. Speaking of fun, we've talked about this a lot in the show. There was a time when Opie was having fun. He would have Cardiff on, he would have Tukey on, he'd be dancing around, Corn Diff was on there, they're all dancing and having fun. And Cardiff and Tukey have been reaching out and trying to get back on Opie's show and

at one point Cardiff was pretty sure they were going to get back on on a Friday show. So Rocco is in the chat and he's super chatting. Opie to figure out why they're not on the show anymore. Why do you fear success and ignore to key and Carter? Because I'm not a dabbler. I'm not in the dabble verse. I don't fear success. I had an insanely successful career. People, people need me to be something. I don't know if I want to be anymore.

I was, I was successful since I was 18 years old all the way up until god knows 30 something years. I was successful. This is why B. Dabler. I don't like you people because you're all a bunch of liars. Now, I have to point out, I don't think he knows what success means because I've been successful since I was 18 when he did an internship at WCMF, that was success. So employed? He didn't have Anthony on his show until he was in his 30s.

He was doing whatever the evening shift is on FM radio on Long Island, just playing alternative rock. That's not successful. It's fine. But if I was a multimillionaire, you know, 500 feet above Manhattan, I wouldn't be like, I've been successful since I was 18 years old. But none of my success actually started when we got the contract with W&EW. And then, you know, you would know like those big moments that made you a success.

Not early on in your career when you had a paper route. Not when, you know, this guy was caddying. That's not what success is. But Opie's decided, because he was employed back then, yes, I guess he was successful. There's also a whole other metric with which to gauge success, Opie, and I know it would never occur to you, but some people look at their career

and they take pride in the work that they did over a certain number of years, regardless of how it did financially. They're like, I'm proud of this work I did. It never even occurs to you. It doesn't even come up. You're talking about his life's work his life's work That they're holding hostage ransom in the chat with my life's work

Person I guess that there was he'd be doing it again now So he's getting real wound up here with this Rocko Chat that came up. How do I fear success if I was insanely successful from the age of 18 all the way up and until almost old age? What part of that is fearing success? And then it's stuff like this that makes me not want to dip my toes in the in the dabble verse. Oh my god, Oppenheimer, did you eat an octopus black mouth I don't know what to do let me get rid of you he didn't learn I know another blocked chatter right there it's so funny now he I don't know what he's referring to he goes and

it's stuff like this that you not want to dip my toe into the dabble verse Stuff like what the chat that you put up on your screen from Rocco that just said Why won't you have us on the show? We were doing really well when we were on your show It's anything that makes him feel anything. Yes. Yes. He gets it It's feeling so quickly and easily like oh you just pointing out that I wouldn't have you on my show is making me not like you more yeah yeah well that that's the question and the thing that Opie did is he treated Cardiff and Rocco like shit he would not confirm whether he was gonna have them on in Friday or not he wouldn't let them know if he was gonna send the link so Cardiff's fortunately living in this I'll say it he lives in the fucking Eastern time zone like Opie so it's fine you cannot stop doxxing it's Brazil but

it's the Easter type and then now I gotta make another round of shows and then you have poor Tukey out there who's getting up at 4 a.m. or 3.30 a.m. or something, just to be prepared and ready in case they get the link so he can go on Opie's show. And sometimes they would, and sometimes they wouldn't. And even up until recently, Opie was communicating with Cardiff saying that he was gonna have them on, and then wouldn't have them on.

So it's just a power play there, and he's being a douche. And he's really the problem in all of this He's going oh it's stuff like that and it becomes their fault. Oh, it's something that you should not want to do it anymore stuff like what? What did you do? We look at stuttering John we look at all these different people They're so different like their economic situation their family life their addictions It is on paper very very different, but they all come to the same conclusions. They don't know that when, when, Opie, when you had the vegetables on, you thought they were the butt of the joke. Right. But it was actually you. And the fact that you didn't know that is endlessly entertaining and we can watch it forever. But you don't know that you

actually think you were big timing these guys and you're doing it again. So it's not working. You're the butt of the joke. Jim tried to explain this to you. Other shows have spent hours on that one moment just not understanding why you can't grasp what your talent was and we're all saying it to you and you still can't see it And that's like my worst nightmare Yes And I think that Opie's realization that Tukey and Cardiff are more popular than him and people would be tuned in For that is why he's scared to have them on the show. Yep Because yeah, he could be the butt of the joke. Yeah, he doesn't understand and

have them on the show. Yep. Because yeah, he could be the butt of the joke. Yeah, he doesn't understand. And I'm the only person in the Devilverse who only hears true information from the chatters in my chat room and TP says, Jim actually did batch Opie out of his show. If that's true, I need the audio of this because I'm I'm very skeptical of that. Very skeptical. And real quick, another mistake that Opie, John, Tom Myers, countless others make is saying how long they've been doing something. I know.

Well you suck at it now. Right, that's not the flux you think it is. That is not. When Tom Myers is like, I've been doing comedy for 20 years, you have? Yeah. Holy shit, dude. Do something else.

Crap, that's a joke. And we were talking about this earlier with Quad. It's just what you said, Chris. They get a feeling and the world stops. And there is no present. And OP is sitting there going, God, just like John, you know, in his mind, all of his successes are flashing through his mind.

He's like, how could you possibly think I'm a loser? Because we're looking at what you're doing right now. And there is no argument John if Somebody showed you 20 years ago a picture of you at Chillercon with your head down and your receiving hairline Next to Grillo looking at your phone in an empty room you'd go. Oh fuck it. It doesn't work out I got to change something and hope if someone showed you alone alone in your apartment Broadcasting to this computer to no one, you'd go like, fuck, I gotta change something.

It's squid ink all over your mouth. A best case scenario, yes, squid ink. I pointed this out to John directly. I don't know how often I've said this about Opie. It's the success that makes this more interesting. We can all watch King Cobra, JFS, or Cyrax, or any of these people, and you go, well, they're losers.

They've always been losers. That's fun, but you know what's even more fun? This guy was making millions of dollars as a radio host, and now he's doing this. And Suthering John was the announcer for the night show, and now he's doing Chiller con and Kevin Brennan Was Neil Brennan's brother? That was doing whatever he does and at this lowest moment of their descent you're never gonna believe this they decided to film it

Somebody was paying them like a million dollars Like they did do it on their own for free. I can't look away. Puddies have a dollar actually. I'm a volunteer. All right. So now Opie's got to argue with people and tell them how amazing his life is.

Dude, OK, OK, is this still funny or is it just sad? Jess is sad, everybody. Jess is sad. Jess, are you sad? Dude has a breakdown over being a massive, more just, all right, let me get rid of this person. Just more lies. Where's my breakdown?

I'm having a wonderful life. The fact that you have to say, where's my breakdown? I have a wonderful life. It's like, we're watching it. What she's my breakdown? I have no wonderful life. It's like, no, this is what we're watching. What she's referring to is specifically what you're doing. This is the breakdown that we're referring to. And I'm sorry, but just like all the others, they think their words are gonna convince us otherwise.

Rather than their actions and their facial expressions, their emotions. Yeah, right. We're watching this. We're watching you get very overly emotional over a random person who you know nothing about on the internet This is the Chad laugh. He's doing it right now. It's just But he has reasons why he's not doing so well

You know one of the other things I decided was to put my priorities in order You know, I'm sure I'm sure I could be doing more than I'm doing. I'm sure I can. But my priorities are different these days. I want to enjoy my kids growing up. I want to enjoy my wife. You know, when the Open Anthony show was just absolutely insane, it didn't leave a lot of time for much else, if you want to know the truth. If you want to know the truth if you want to know the truth

There's the towel. Yeah drink. There's the towel right there. Oh, you were doing a morning show for four hours a day Yeah, I probably didn't leave a lot of time for anything else. I know there's meetings. I know there's other things going on, but I Would say if I'm Opie's kids and wife that he's prioritizing over his career I'd be like hey I'm Opie's kids and wife that he's prioritizing over his career. I'd be like, hey, maybe we don't want the money to run out. Could you maybe prioritize that so that we're not destitute? You're acting weird. This whole thing where Opie's acting like he's putting his family first.

Well, you're the provider for the family, so you might want to start providing. He's putting his ego before yes everything as long as I never really try I can never really fail So I can always say to you. I know i'm not trying Also, oh and and i'm I have no reason to believe he's not an amazing husband an amazing father I have reasons to believe but yeah, it's possibly he's terrible at both, but we'll never know Father I have reasons to believe but yeah, it's possibly terrible at both, but we'll never know Prioritizing being a father and a husband just like that's why I'm in the car in the Costco parking lot talking to you right now Well, my family's inside providing for us. There is some evidence that yeah, it's not really going all that well

But this he says this and this is where a lot of these guys in the disconnect they have Aaron in Holt's very much this way where just because we make fun of his show and his begging and how bad he is at the show that he claims to be really good at, that he thinks that we're hoping for a bad thing to happen to him. Where's the breakdown? Where's the breakdown?

What is wrong with you people for real? What went wrong in your life that you're you're you're you're hoping you're hoping that someone a bunch of probably were fans back in the day you're hoping that someone has a major breakdown. People aren't hoping they're observing. They're observing this breakdown and the OP's mind is these people are they're trying to get me to break down. They're trying this breakdown and OP's mind is these people are they're trying to get me to break down they're trying to ruin it. It's like

no they're just observing what what's going on they're watching you react to just this stupid little Facebook post that someone's putting on the chat while you're doing your show. He has no idea how revealing what he just said was. He has no idea that he just told us what he wants. This is what he does. This is why he can't be happy for Anthony or anyone. He's not like, Oh, the people around me are having success. That means I'll be successful too. He's actively wishing it wouldn't happen. Like John hoping Kate Meany doesn't get the job at serious. Like they just wish ill will on other people and don't believe in their hearts that other people are not the same way

you're right and even when someone does succeed he has to belittle it like see you think Sam Roberts has a good career you think Jim Norton's doing well yeah I think both those things oh you think Anthony get a job at W ABC's a big deal it seems to be pretty big deal actually people are still talking about it I'm sure you would like one wouldn't that be great. Oh B. I saw you on oh on W ATP Why is that a negative they saw you? I'm not impressed right you must be a loser That's okay. That's a good observation though Adam You're right because he's thinking about like taking other people down and watching them have a mental breakdown

So that's what he's rooting for so kind's like, I don't know why you're rooting for that. It's so weird. We're not. We want you to keep doing your show, keep doing what you're doing. Please. He thinks we're rooting against him. He thinks we want him to suffer and that that would make us happy.

No. Not that if he just did a show plan, whatever it was, and called up the fruits and vegetables and did a show, we wouldn't be riveted. I also want him to get back on the radio. If he did a daily radio show, that'd be fantastic for us. All right, this is another question

that comes up in the chat that Obe does not have to address, does not have to put up on the screen. Your fall from grace is so depressing, is it? Let me, there's my fall from grace. This is what I'm looking at this morning. I know I'm so bummed out. I'm so depressed. Hell's kitchen. I'm so bummed out. I'm so depressed. My fall from grace. Oh my God. I know. Just imagine you had a huge,

huge radio show. You invested wisely. You buy three spectacular properties, one that I don't really talk about at all. And this is so depressing. And then I get to hang out with my wife and kids. I don't have to report to a business and a boss that's a shithead. I know all of this is so depressing. That's an insane response to that chat. And so Adam, I think I know the answer based on everything you've said so far, but is Opie reacting this way

because he knows it's what's getting him views and getting him clips and getting him talked about on shows and he wants this attention? Or does it really bother him that much to just have that half a sentence send him off on that journey that's it yeah I'm sorry to answer on Adams we have I don't know he's that smart or talented to pull it off I mean Opie all you have to do is just watch that one clip to understand why people are going

What's going on with this breakdown you're having what what why are you losing it? What's happening the fact you had to bring up your third property in Philadelphia to prove how successful you are and how amazing your life is He thinks he's better than John claiming to own a boat He thinks he's better than John claiming to own a boat Right you just did oh, yes You just claimed you owned a boat except for he he actually does own that third property of John does not open Yes, right. That's a very similar thing All right, so last thing I want to leave us on is people are very excited about this new podcast network

That's picking him up and what's gonna be happening with that because Opie announced it, like guys, I don't know if you are ready for this big news but people are showing interest in this show and we are going places. And I'm moving my podcast to a bigger platform. People are trying to make a little more out of it than it really is. I'm just moving my podcast to a bigger platform. People are trying to make a little a little more out of it than it really is.

I'm just moving my podcast to a bigger platform. I got got recruited a little bit. They're basically saying that we see some potential we we see where you should be getting more downloads. We certainly could get you more monetization. So why don't you move over to us and I'm like, well, hell yeah, I'll do that. The word in there that stuck out to me is the word potential. These guys reached out and said, we see you have potential. He started as the number two podcast in the comedy section

of iTunes. This is the opposite of potential. It's literally the polar opposite. He started out opposite of potential. It's literally the polar opposite. He started out ready to go at the starting line in first place and is now in last place and someone's like, that's our guy. We're going to team you up with another hot commodity, Eric Griffin. You guys are on the same trajectory. They're going places. He's going to get us over the finish line before anyone else. Opie, there's no potential here. You've tried everything that you could try you suck

It's gone nowhere the only thing that's helped his views and I'm saying this very modestly Is people like me and Anthony bringing him up who are great and keeping it nobody we're keeping opi alive This guy would definitely just be an obscurity no one would be talking about the you'd have that little pod squad Facebook group You know a few dozen people and that'd be it. But now he's got all these chatters fucking with them and talking to him and he's able to respond. He revealed his weaknesses in this little rant. He said they have a bunch of ideas of how we're gonna grow it. That's not how it works, Opie. Howard Stern didn't take

the meeting about syndication and say, how we gonna do this? You guys have any ideas? He said here's what I want to do. Here's what I want to do creatively. How can I make that happen? And then they explained all the limitations and he fought against them. You're supposed to come to them with an idea, a concept, anything that they can help you with that they'd be like, oh shit, he can't get that done in front of that window. We need to build him a podcast

room so he can do this idea he has. But he has none. He thinks it's impressive to say, you know, other people have some thoughts about me. It's interesting too that this whole thing with this new platform. He keeps saying it He's like they're gonna get me more views. They're gonna get me marketing if I wasn't familiar with opi and all of a sudden this shows up because there's an ad on my podcast player or Something's pushing this out to me on Instagram or someone you lost a bet yeah, okay radio podcast Who would watch this and be like, this is my new morning show.

OP, you must know that this isn't for anyone. You're not talking about anything. You have no takes on anything. You argue with the chat. You say hi to people you know. Eric Griffin is still doing his podcast, even though it was successful a long time ago, but the reason he can

still do it to the number of people that are there is because he didn't block all of them and tell them they're all losers and assholes for reaching out to him he cultivated it he rewarded them for believing in him and now they're supporting him this is what you're left with and Opie is so out of it so he's in podcasting he he's a podcaster. And he doesn't even understand what's happening in the industry. There's some things I'm a little worried about. I want to make sure if I move over to this one podcast platform that some of these places have exclusivity like Spotify does with the Joe Rogan, or does he now?

I don't know. But they pay him all that money, but you can only get them through Spotify. I think in the podcast world, especially at my level, my level in podcasting sucks a D. So I can't be exclusive to anybody. I need to be on all the platforms to hopefully build a bigger audience. So he still thinks that there's exclusivity and he doesn't know whether that's the case or not with this new offer this new platform that's widely known that SiriusXM and Spotify and all these

companies that are buying a podcast are allowing them to be on YouTube and to be on every podcast app because they're like we don't want to limit the audience size we want to limit the audience size. We want to sell advertising on their behalf and get it out to everyone we can. And hope he's like, yeah, but I got to make sure it's like a Joe Rogan deal. That hasn't been the case for years. How are you not keeping up on this? Even casual observers of podcasting and entertainment know this. Just like we were talking about,

he has become a square dad who doesn't realize he's no longer a hip, edgy comedian. Anyone, even older people who hear what you just said are gonna go, oh yeah, that's what they used to say before the internet. They were precious about things. It wasn't about, it wasn't a global medium. You sound like an old person. And I know that because I'm an old person

I'm telling you that's not how it works now and it's okay to think that way But the fact that I know at least a dozen people have told you the opposite and you're explaining to them while they're wrong While you're actively drowning is wild and an example for a successful podcast is always Joe Rogan. Yeah. He doesn't know anyone else who's successful in podcasting. That's very telling in and of itself. Right. Even an old guy like, oh, but you know, smartless. You know, like, know something

else. That was Cooper. You know, that's pretty big news. A hundred million dollars was serious. Shannon Sharpe, several. Has he ever said the words call her daddy? Has he even mentioned them, or at all? You would think, because he used to work for Sirius, you would think he would know, but I've never heard him bring it up.

And so he says that, he goes, I'm just not sure, the thing we gotta work out, is you gotta make sure it's not an exclusivity deal, where I can only be on one platform. But the day before he said this, the day before he says, but when I move my podcast is this other place, it'll certainly help with views. It'll help with marketing and it'll also help with money, money every morning. Give me your five dollars. Five.

So, Opie, it says all along, they're gonna help me with views, they're gonna help me get the show more access with the marketing, and then he's like, but I gotta check to make sure it's not exclusive on just one platform, like Joe Rogan. What? Which is it?

What are you talking about? So confused this man. When you're in these talks, are you listening? Right! And it's not that they're not talks or emails, that he's forwarding to some agent manager to get Erock's take on that. I know he's active in the chat about... What is it he thinks they're going to be exclusive about? Is it the naming of the chatters at the beginning of the show? The roll call? Yeah. We gotta hit the roll call on our network. All right, OP. Then you can put it on the other ones days later. And you know it's real because he's following

the same thing Anthony did. I remember for months Anthony was like something's coming. Can't tell you what it is, but it's a coming. Yeah. And it's big and it's gonna pay a lot of bucks and it's gonna be huge. You can't wait No, he didn't do that because that's not what you do when you're in negotiations with something real You don't fucking talk about it. And when it's done you announce it like an adult. This is a kid saying Oh, yeah, well, well, I got one too and it's better than yours and my dad can beat up your dad Yeah, it's a lot of Counting your chickens before they hatch we see up your dad. Yeah, it's a lot of counting your chickens

before they hatch. We see this all the time where people, it's like we were just playing with Eric Griffin talking about, well, I'm gonna have a new website, we're gonna have a podcast studio, and it's gonna look great. It's coming down to Pike. Everything's gonna be awesome eventually.

I've been doing this shit a long time. You start to tell people about a role that you haven't booked yet. Yeah. You learn real fucking fast. Not to tell anyone until you've been to the screening and seen yourself on the screen And even then it's 50-50 I'm literally an insider when it comes to anthony and I only knew a day or two before it was announced that he got the job on W abc because it would be stupid even start telling your friends and family about it.

Just head down, figure it out, and once it happens, it happens. You mean Anthony didn't go on the air and express in a forum that those people could hear how not into it he was? And how obsessed he was with the limitations? Right. All right, Adam, you ready to play a game?

I'd love to. What about Annie? Annie, you ready to play a game? I'd love to what about Annie Annie you ready to play a game? I'm ready to lose at the game. No, that's the wrong attitude Annie I Haven't won one two minutes of time you have a 20% chance every time. How is that possible? Today's your day you excited about Vegas. We're gonna be at hackamania all four of us on the screen right here. We'll be at hackamania This next week coming up. I know I'm very excited about it. Can't wait It's gonna be a lot of fun hanging out with everybody Let's go Cardiff

It's time for everyone's favorite new new game show two minutes with Tom What do you say ladies and gentlemen and Adam Bush are you ready to find the bomb playing two minutes with I haven't been doing a lot of live shows lately. I've been doing shows over the internet, over Zoom. And I think I actually like doing those better because before when I would do live shows, I would usually piss off an audience member and they'd want to fight me. They'd want to kick my ass. But now if I do a show on Zoom, even if they want to kick my ass,

they have to try and find my address. And even if they found my address, there's a very good chance that- What did Tom say next? Here are your choices. Number one, they'll get taken out by a Maryland driver. B, they'll get stuck in one of our roundabouts. Next, the traffic will make them forget what they were even angry about. Four, they'll misread the map and end up in

Delaware. And lastly, they would hear my neighbor's banjo playing and run for the hills. Two minutes with Tom. There could be any of these. is a tough one now. We got it right last episode Because we smartly tricked Cardiff into making number one the answer and then we chose one and we got it I Think he's doing it again. God damn it. I'm going number one So did I take it out by a Maryland driver producer Chris and I are both going number one Adam Bush What say you? I mean, they're all variations of the same joke, which is completely believable that Tom would say them.

And I would encourage anyone who listens, like I do, to watch Tom prowling the stage like a, I don't know, like a peacock trapped in behind a zoo. He's just, it's so uncomfortable watching him pace. It could be any of these. I will go with the roundabout just because it's local humor Okay. Yep. That sounds good. Annie. What do you think? next The chevrolet make them forget what they were angry about Let's find out now if i do a show on zoo even if they want to kick my ass they have to try and find my address and even if they found my address there's a very good chance that they'll get taken out by a Maryland driver Cardiff in the big good points in a row

Do you feel good Three laughs victory lap Carl is taking it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry time as you were Are you guys listening to that broad talking louder than Tom in their room? It's amazing. Please continue. You're saying she's showing very little respect? Yes. For the camera. This guy's been doing it for decades. Oh, and right at the top there's the visual of that person leaving and crossing the frame

in front of him that just adds to the sadness. Oh, poor Tom. Don't make me start feeling bad for Tom Myers guys, come on. COVID has changed everything for me. I now keep a giant bottle of Purell next to my bed instead of Jurgens. This episode has been brought to you by hackamania.com or hackamania.com right now and get your tickets or your streaming package and use promo code come. If you bought your tickets without using promo code come, call Patrick Melton right now and demand a refund at 516-922-9463. That's his personal cell phone number See you in Vegas

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It's so funny. Ladies and gentlemen, what have we done today? We've done it all. We talked about Jake Hudson and the very successful interview we had with Adam Bush. We talked about BYB. We talked about Eric Griffin, who is a slow and not funny at all. We talked about Scorch teaming up with Anthony Cumi in the near future. Can't wait to see what that's gonna look like Opie is still Letting his chat control his show. You know what that means. It's time for everyone's favorite part of the show

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I found W ATP through a show Carla did with Matthew Cox and I decided to check things out and have been hooked ever since. I had no idea this dabble world was going on right under my nose. That's awesome. I'm glad to hear that because it was a fun conversation I had with Matthew Cox when we were down in Largo for the live podcast. I get up early and drive for an hour to wherever the hell he lives.

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All right, listen to some voicemails and then we'll get out of here. Ronnie in Syracuse. Hey Carl, Ronnie in Syracuse. Love you. Love the show just finished listening to the Saturday show and I don't understand Why you had Mike Gavin Ali on? Doesn't make any sense. What a waste. He drove five hours one way with some friends specifically To talk to John and ask him some good questions and didn't get a picture ask him some good questions and didn't get a picture, didn't ask any questions, didn't take his own pictures, nothing to document his five-hour one-way trip. What a waste. Oh my god, don't call me back. It's almost like he's retired or

something. How come nobody's commented on how John smelled? Hmm. Good point. People didn't want to get that close, I guess. Can I just point out that this Michael Gavinoli, he's obsessed with porn stars, he knows a lot of them. Who are these friends? Because that's all anybody knows. We don't know anything about his interactions with John, because he had none. But we all know he had friends. He called you, he said, I'm bringing these friends and we're gonna go and then he said I spent money 60 bucks on these friends Didn't have enough money to pay for John to get a picture to do an interview What are these friends? They're not a part of what you're trying to do I think you're using us to impress these friends and that you accomplished Whatever it was you wanted to do in your sick dark twisted beautiful fantasy I think right because he wants me to send

links to his friends so he's just like I get if you guys come with me I can get you on this podcast and you will do this thing and I was like that's all we know that's all only takeaway who were these friends and go fuck yourself you can't make friends on our dime yeah Troy Smith says I blew it I should have had them on in hindsight I would have I had no. I should have had them on in hindsight I would have I had no idea I'm J had nothing for us But we talked about this in the pre before the show started and we more than made up for with Jack I'm point dabble point. He was great. So if you haven't checked out point dabble point that's on our YouTube channel

From this Monday check it out because he was there with his girlfriend getting photos getting videos Insulting John to his face. We got to see it and he was composed and relaxed Did it at the proper pace? It's perfect. He didn't go in there, you know All right, you get it. He's well done But I think Chris what you're trying to point out is that if there's anybody out there who doesn't have a show who's not a youtuber What you're trying to point out is that if there's anybody out there who doesn't have a show who's not a youtuber You're gonna do better. Please if you're inspired if John comes near you go out to the show Speak to him share with us what happened be a fan of all of this and report it back

Because you can have your own show and still be terrible at this if you're lonely. Mm-hmm true true Hey, so start off what was it long time hater first time caller whatever I don't know this little piggy I'm trying to listen I'm trying to keep up with everything I'm listening to the biggest problem and dick mentioned I was on a little bit this little piggy you know who this little piggy whatever yada yada. Why did I have to go onto YouTube to find nobody loves onions fucking stupid YouTube channel I get he does stuff for the community whatever yada yada I don't care I don't know who this motherfucker is. Okay, I'm

I'm on the patreon. I'm on the regular feed. Thank you. I checked I double-checked everything to see oh, what did I miss? What am is what did I miss? You're gonna tell me you had a fucking episode with Dick Masterson, okay like and I have to go to some other motherfucker's channel. I get it, you want to spread the love. Okay, I'm cutting him off. It's a very long voicemail, but yes. If you wanna share this little piggy with Dick Masterson,

that is on Nobody Likes Onions, because what happened is I rotate this little piggy. It's on my channel, it's on Patrick's channel, sometimes it's on Tukey's channel, when he can make it, and I invited Dick to come on this little piggy the week before, and Dick goes, I'm going to a wedding. So it's like, oh okay, he goes, I can come on next week, I was like, all right. So we got the invite to come on Patrick's channel, so that's, I didn't put that out because it's not on my channel, so I didn't feel like I had the ownership to do so, but I do encourage you to

check out, nobody likes onions on YouTube and our episode of this little piggy Because we're gearing up for hackamania That's gonna be interesting Hi, it's me again. Um, I called about you having anything you do with dick on the on your feed what's wrong with Moody's teeth like he's not helping the whole European or England people whatever the fuck you

call them British shitty teeth like his teeth are white right they're white. Yeah, but it's like a clusterfuck of Little white chicklets. I don't know You know and also I mean that Whatever. It's just I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. Okay, and I Don't know. That's it. Okay, okay. I love love that he thinks Moody is British I hate to break it to you guys Moody is Iranian Indian he's Iranian and he moved to New Zealand yeah so not even the right continent and And he did two options. You just lost a lot of viewers. But Moody's a wee man.

That's why he has his baby teeth in still. Don't want the beard fool you. Here's a guy calling from the shower. Hey Carl, it's Jim from the shower. I just took off the shower head. And I went to go spray my asshole You know really get it cleaned out and stuff and blow away. It was so hot. I burned the shit out of my asshole Oh, oh, it really hurts

Is this for your personal line? There's a lot of reasons to call it a WTP. That is not one of them But thanks for the update. Sorry to hear about you. I didn't hear any I didn't hear any water hear any water oh maybe they wasn't in the shower maybe that was all performative it's very possible Gary in San Diego has a question well Chiller Fist is over and done the books are closed now does Now, did Stuttering John make a profit? Did he make a net profit? Did he break even? Or is he awash in red ink?

What is your best guess as to how Stuttering John came out of the chiller fence wait for it wait for it rock and roll rock and roll Gary here's my assessment on it John has no idea whether he made money or not at that event he has no idea the accounting when it's all said and done but based on what we heard from people who went and saw him didn't seem like he was that busy. A lot of free time, a lot of downtime. Sitting there at that. When it comes in, and it goes out.

Right, he wouldn't know. Although, his sugar daddy was there. So maybe VTM threw him some cash or something. He didn't make any money from it, Gary. He barely covered the cost of his expenses. He did a basic split for the amount of photos that he sold with the house. And he didn't sell enough to really I mean, he made some money, but they didn't pay him anything. So they didn't lose anything. It's

only a win for them for him to show basic split. We're talking 7030 8020. I mean, it's 6040 7030. It's not good for him. It's not good. It's not because you have to I'm assuming he had to provide his own pictures. And they just take the cut and provide the handler. And just so you all know, the handler was not there for john, the handler was there to make sure that they got a cut of every single picture showed and that he didn't lie about it. And isn't it funny that he treated the handler like security? As

soon as Jack's girlfriend was filming, he's like, she's videoing me right now. Telling the handler that. Like they're supposed to be like, whatever. Yeah, exactly. John, I can't do anything about that and get your hand off my leg. Yeah, yeah, and you're not supposed to be drinking beer. That was amazing. The fact that John, because we all saw on the website, there's no alcohol there. The fact that John had a Coors Light right there in front of him. Amazing. People will do that. It's a convention. You're a, you know, you're there to sign. You'll have a sneaky little thermos or something.

And if you're bringing in money, or if you're attracting people, they don't really care. When you're alone in the gold room in booth number four and there's no one in there, and you're loud and smelly and drinking, it's just not a good look. That's not the S stuttering John I know. It's professional.

Did Jake ask you stuttering John in his list of professional or unprofessional? Oh, no. Then let me ask you. I wanna hear professional or professional, and then one word to describe him. Well, the thing I feel about stuttering John is that- Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, just answer the question! See? No one would. He had balls. I love it. John, we all know he's unprofessional. One word? Loser. Perfect. Photoshop of Anthony Kumia holding a comb. It's Anthony Kumbia. OP's worst nightmare. Also I called in earlier about the bonfire the episode in question Is hot zero towards hot zeros I Don't know. It's fucking awful either way. All right

Oh, yeah, I did get notes about this episode of the bonfire that people were not thrilled with. But I like big J. He's doing his best over there. What he has to work with. Robert Kelly. I'm glad you vetted Jack for PDP because it was very funny. I don't know, I have to have Michael Gabinelli made me long for Clearwater Chad. Oof. Yeah. Low blow. Yeah, that's rough. Yeah.

Jack was fantastic. No doubt about that. I think this might be Jake Hudson. You would know better, Adam. Listen closely. Hey, Carl, you know there's chocolate in your butt? There's chocolate in your butt. You You would know better Adam,. Bye. Is that Jake? No, because if it was Jake, he would refer to mistype box like Tiny Tim. Oh, okay. It might be. It sounded a lot like him. Second question. Is there chocolate in my butt that I could eat? I wouldn't know. But yes. Be brave. He almost convinced me there. He said it three times.

He almost convinced me there. He said it three times. But Carl, listen to WAPS and you mentioned a bunch of homeless people being in Rochester on your bike ride. How are there homeless people in Rochester? Wouldn't like one winner turn all of them into Jack Torrance at the fucking end of the Shining? How do they just not all get killed every winter? Going back. It's a good question. I wonder it myself. But somehow they continue to breed and grow in the city that we have. Do you know that, so there's the overpass, the pedestrian overpass over 490, and there's that ramp that you go up to get

to it sure and I ride my bike that's part of my bike route that I go there's a homeless guy who now lives there and when I say lives there like I have to pedal through his living room and bedroom to go around this fucking guy and I don't want to be a carrot but I want to be like Can we clean this shit up? It's not good He's complaining about you Good point anyway, they somehow they survived the winter every fucking year Vinny's got he's got a joke about that. Let's just think of him too many coats the problem

Count photographer oh Vinny's got a joke about that. Yeah, let's just think about it. Give him too many coats. That's the problem. Cow photographer. Oh, Adam, you're going to like this. Getting real braggadocious, this cow photographer. Hey, Carl, it's a cow photographer. A while ago, I mentioned I did some acting, and I got more auditions and such than John. Well, today I got cast in a small little film. And it's a paid role and that's more

than John has done in the past decade. So that's, there's a joke. I don't know. Fuck you. Bye. No, I think it was just you wanted to brag, but he does figure out the joke. I got the joke. That's a win for the cow. That's a win for the cow. Thank you very much. Congratulations, cow photographer. Glad to hear you're getting some acting work. You've got more going on in Opie who big time that struggling actor he knows who has a new film coming out. Oh, Opie. I mean, he's been so great to us over these past few months. I really couldn't ask for anything more. We appreciate him. I

Got to go. Bye. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. I got it. Go. All right fine Oh pee will let you go, but thanks for being here and Thank you to Annie our review girl Thank you to Adam Bush thinking to producer Chris. Thanks girl. Thank you to Adam Bush. Thank you to producer Chris. Thanks. And don't forget to go to Hackamania.com so you can stream all of the podcasts live this weekend. And if you can't watch them live they'll be available for you. So check that out. You can watch all the shows and keep up with what's going on at Hackamania. Also if you are an executive producer of Hackamania, if you want to sign

up for the higher tier, there's exclusive videos. I believe what's happening is Rocco will be filming all the trips to White Castle. Oh yeah. The 1am, 2am, 3am trips to White Castle they're going to be making every freaking night because Rocco is obsessed with Fast food and he's gonna die soon Yeah, it's the killing himself. He's obsessed with the fast food just happens to be that it's nuts But if you want to watch those shenanigans, I probably won't be involved in that. Yeah, I'll be watching that I'll be watching from the hotel room I don't know. I don't know. Okay, bye.

That was a great episode. That was really great. I gotta go. Goodbye. Okay, folks. Guess what? The episode's over. Go fuck yourselves. Have a good week.

Ah, Carl. I love you. Are we done here? I think we are yes, thank you for tuning in bye If I was a loser why is everybody so mad that I'm leaving? Adam, how long is your no, as Michael C wants to know? I saw Opie's latest co-host and I said, just give me bigger than that. And they obliged. Perfect.