Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep618 - Primal Scream with Stuttering John

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

Stuttering John came back for a live podcast interview this past week. Nick Graystone was the lucky duck who got to hear all about John’s high school band and how cool they were at the battle of the bands. We actually hear some new stories about John’s glory days, which I didn’t think was possible.  Earl David Reed is live in studio with us to hear John get very offended by being called a “wack packer.” Then the Aussie guy joins us to let us know what a POS Blind Mike is behind the scenes. Opie is still getting owned by his chat while complaining about living in New York City. I don’t like to say I told you so but… And finally we have Internet News with Lucy Tightbox and your voicemails.  The Aussie Guy’s channel - https://www.youtube.com/@UnitedStatesofAustralia Earl David Reed - https://www.instagram.com/earldavidreed1/ Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Stream Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You see this is a We just do it kind of show Episode 18 are you a boner guy? Oh, I was a boner guy. You know what? I miss penis. What are you talking about? I'm the one who should apologize is it gonna be Absolutely riveting is it gonna change your life by any stretch probably not but it's gonna be at least entertaining okay by the way for those people that are in the back remember to shut the fuck up cuz cuz a row cuz a row slap-a-rooney it's showtime W-A-T-P! W-A-T-P! Hello, welcome to another episode of the With me live in the studio is touring comedian and devil verse celebrity Earl David Reed.

What's up, ADR? Oh, let me tell you right now. It is so good to be here. I'm actually in Carl's studio. Am I allowed to call it that? Yes. The basement? Every time it's a studio.

You could do. Yes, in the studio. It's always nice to be here live in Rochester and at Comedy Carlson, so that's going to be great. Had one show last night with Vinnie Paulino, who I hadn't worked with for years, and he actually said he took some time off Hadn't seen him, but he looked really great. Yeah, it was show. It was a great show. Yeah How was the crowd last night? It was good and I'll tell you right now Vinny has lost a lot of weight

He's he's no longer moonhead. I would think We can't be the judge of that only John can determine whether he's no longer moon. He's more of a crescent moon Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's still there So I'm glad to hear the crowd was good. I was on the other room seeing Joe list last night We're gonna come see you tonight, and I thought the comedians were great and the room was tough Well, they were working extra hard on this room. I was feeling bad for Joe list well It's so funny because it's like you know I Try not to watch everyone it goes on before me because I don't want to get that thought process I want to just hit the

ground running with it and it's hard to do it most of the time if you see me I'm listening I'm listening probably to I have an earbud in or something and I just kind of wait till the end of whatever but it's it's hard sometimes to get it started and the bad thing about it is is like you know people say oh the crowd is hard whatever the hardest but it's still your job to kind of, you know, get it done. And it sucks because it's on you. There's really no, you have to take accountability for it.

Of course, yeah. Producer Chris is here as well. Oh, hello. Please go to whoarethese.com. That's where you get our email address, voicemail number, link to their subreddit, link to our Discord server, link to our merchandise, the link to YouTube,

and that link to Patreon and Supercast, featuring two, if not three exclusive bonus episodes every month We dropped three exclusive bonus episodes last month and the most recent one is living in the past with stuttering John We just did this past week a fantastic episode again John talking about the Secret Service and trying to avoid the Secret Service by hiding in his bed Oh God Only only John would think that that would be the way to get out of getting arrested by the Secret Service

to hide in your bed. And his roast appearance has been haunting me all week. Yeah, he really failed miserably. The roast of Howard Stern turned into him talking about his credits. Surprise, surprise. Well, it's funny, but here's the thing too about John. I've mentioned this before and I'll mention it again.

I'm slightly jealous of him yeah because his credits are major okay I mean they're major when it comes to radio it can't get bigger than Howard and he was at the time and they're tonight show you're unlike like back when doing late night show wasn't so dangerous you know he was on in two great positions and you know if I were given that chance I would have tried to parlay that into something. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not even, it's T-ball.

You're sitting up there on the tee. Right. Okay? All of us would still have careers in Hollywood if that was our resume. Yeah, all of us would. But it just seemed to just, I don't know how you could, I'm almost more amazed at the fact that he kind of screwed it up. That's what's fascinating about him.

It's because it's almost like you couldn't screw it up. But here's why you shouldn't be jealous of him and I've used this analogy before but it's been a while. So, I'll remind everyone there's a brilliant episode of South Park where Cartman wins or or takes over an amusement park and he has it all for himself and it is pure joy and euphoria. There is no lines. He's going on all the rides as much as he wants. It's incredible. Fast forward by the end of it. He's losing the amusement park and he can no longer use it anymore.

His life is now worse. Even though he's in the exact same predicament as when he started, his life is now worse because he had that sensation of how great life could be and it was taken away from him. That's where John is. It is, he's in a horrible position. If he had just been a plumber all of his life and moved down to Florida, was living out his last years, going to sports bars at 3 p.m., then he'd be fine. Yeah, and I think it's almost like,

he's almost had the same life almost as a child actor. Oh, yeah. Because it's like in the beginning, they have all this stuff, and as you get to be adult, you scramble to still be that same person. But where he sucks is,

it happened to him later in life Adam Bush just rolling in his grave. Well. I was actually thinking Cory Feldman. Oh With Cory felt yeah that I'm Adam Bush I went down that rabbit hole with him when he got on this show yeah too familiar with him But that guy's just straight-up dude, man. Yeah, yeah, and he is gonna be with us at Hackemania May 9th through 11th He's a great up dude, man. He really is. Yeah. And he is gonna be with us at Hackamania! May 9th through 11th, we're gonna be in Las Vegas. And of course, we have these podcasts,

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Nick Rekade is gonna be there with some bombshells and Apparently there's gonna be on this little piggy Friday night evidence Yeah, that Aaron Emholt did Injust semen and not his own So there's that to look forward to it's gonna be a fun weekend. Who's out don't miss it for that evidence is what I Everyone are you kidding me? We're gonna break the internet with the company This is why this Davel verse thing just scares the heck out of me. This is some of the scariest people yeah just scares the heck out of me. This is some of the scariest people in the world.

I mean, when I saw Stunny and John getting pulled over by the cops, I'm going, who takes that time to find that guy that has that happen to? Oh, hello. One Cardiff electric in the answer to that. And that Cardiff is just amazing. It's like, oh man.

A very talented person I'd never want to be on the bad side of. No, that's very talented person. I never want to be on the no bad side of my that's my favorite carb That's how my thing started with Cardiff. He's going after me all the time remember he was making Podcast episodes about creeps named Carl like every episode is different named Carl. That was a different time That was a very different time back then pre potato Also tickets are on sale. We're live in Boston on June 21st Whtp live comm it's where you want to go and big announcement Adam Bush to be joining us in Boston as well I heard yeah

So we got the dick show with Johnny the audio engineer and then all of the WTP folks will be in Boston June 21st So get your tickets for that there are so I think the VIPs already sold out and a lot of the The tickets have sold for that one definitely more than half last I saw so it's moving quickly also We encourage our listeners give us five stars wherever you review podcasts and then shit all over us in the comment section today We'll be reviewing Primal Scream with Nick Greystone They just got a huge guess and I'm excited to tell you stuttering John is back baby Stuttering John just did an interview with Nick Greystone I'm guessing they didn't have to pay a thousand dollars for it as John once talked about he would need

We're gonna find out why John was a guest on the show But first John was supposed to do a show last night at the stress factory Oh, yeah, and this is a fun story. We were all just talking about it a second ago and I didn't tell you the payoff here. So John did not do the show at the Stress Factory last night. And I guess O.J. called the club and they just said it was a scheduling issue. Well, here's a fun story. Vinnie Paulino got a phone call two days ago.

He didn't recognize the number and he picks it up and there's stuttering John going, is this Vinny Brand? Vinny goes, no John, this is not Vinny Brand. John immediately hung up. So John was trying to find Vinny Brand who owns the Stress Factory in order to obviously cancel the show. This idiot, he's going around promoting dates and then he can't even fulfill them well and worst of all he has People under in his phone under their first name

Found out that he knows more than one person named Vinnie. Yeah, he's an idiot I know I was telling me like you should you should have been I know this is moody you idiot But you know these things happen so fast and John keeps changing numbers and phones and cancel it did John cancel That's my speculation based on the fact that he was calling Vinnie Brand. Okay. Yeah, Vinnie Brand said that there was a scheduling conflict Maroon is this Vinnie Maroon is this Vinny Brands? But here's the thing too that I find interesting is that he still, he gets booked and he goes in and it is interesting and I watched the last clip of him, I can't remember where it

was, but last clip and he, it was okay, but he doesn't really have to, here's the thing, he doesn't have to be great, he just wants people to stare at him. I mean we just want to stare at him oh yeah okay he was getting a good reaction at the Boca you were gonna go to that show yeah you were this is the one to talk about Boca too because you guys are trying to figure out the configuration of that that club it's about 70 seats to the right when you first come in there's a big open section where you sit there that room that's the biggest room right there too, is the green room. The green room is almost as big as the

room itself. Okay. Okay. So, yeah. So, it doesn't take about, it takes about maybe 60 people to fill that room. It's not that big of a room at all. And I realized that, and I know it was a packed room for him, but we were listening back to the audio of both nights, and people were loving it. Yeah. It was yeah these hack jokes and he was getting everyone laughing so it really doesn't take that much when you have a name and people come out and they want to laugh well plus now Boca is kind of like the you know it's it's the jokes he were using was old but the crowd was old right yeah it's an old crowd so you know if you start talking like like like any young man or some old-school thing

they're into that you know it's familiar Yeah, you should have done any young ones act That's great all right, so what we're talking about today is primal scream and Nick Greystone I guess he's like a seriously obese metalhead it would appear from based on this But I'm sure has been making the rounds people probably have probably seen this. It starts with introducing their guest, John Melendez. Holy shit. Well, I have a special guest today. It was totally out of the blue. I met this gentleman this weekend and kind of hit it off.

He actually returned my phone call. I invited him on to the podcast, and he is none other than stuttering John what's up my brother Greystone! How are you buddy? You like that name right? Well I didn't know that was your last name but it is kind of funny because Nick was nice enough to drive me home from Chillercon. Okay so we find out already what's happening here. John bummed

a ride from this guy. Absolutely. And drive me home from Chillicon. I assume he's talking about his mom's house in Massapequa. That's a long drive. Because he was in Jersey, right? Yeah. Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. That's a very long drive through some heavily congested areas. That's a few Judas Priest albums there. Yeah, so you just heard him, oh, he was listening to Judas Priest and Molly Crews, you heard him talk about that? Yeah, I didn't realize this was called Primal Scream, I didn't see this. Yeah, it's hard to miss this, John's big return to podcasting here. So you just heard him say he bummed a ride, so it sounds like he owed this guy a favor, which is why he's doing the podcast because he got a free ride. But then we saw him hanging out with Grillo at Chiller Ken.

Listen to this. And also with Steve Grillo and who bummed the ride, of course. He has zero self-awareness. The guy's like, I, I, he let me get a ride with him and then Grillo bummed a ride. I called it first. Shotgun. Where are these guys not being able to get themselves places as grown men? I'm going to ride with them and then Grillo bummed her when I called it first. Shotgun. Where are these guys not being able

to get themselves places as grown men? I know. You know, and he has no plan. He has no plan. Just hoping a fan would be going that way. Seems to be working out for him. I know, right? Talk about jealousy. Just being able to just, I

don't know, wimp through life with no direction and just land in all these amazing opportunities. Well, we don't have a sense of reality or something. It doesn't hurt yourself. He's like the drunk driver that gets into the accident and other people are injured and he's just like, what's going on here? I mean, and that's how he goes through life.

He doesn't get to seem to get any injuries from it. That's a perfect analogy Based on this next clip that I'm gonna play for you. It was great music on the way home We had great conversation and I drank all my beers So he's in the car drinking all of his beers whatever that means who knows but think about that He's risking an open container For the driver the owner of the vehicle. I think it's a dick move I don't like people drinking in my car while I'm driving up somewhere like can we not do that?

It's against the law if I get pulled over because I'm speeding like an idiot. I don't need that on top of it You know plus guess what you can you can last a car ride You should be able you should be able to say right our right without a serious It's like when you see a comedian get on stage, he's drinking a beer while he's performing. Like dude, relax. You don't even have a beer the whole time. Drinking a beer, John drinks multiple beers. To relax.

So this is fun. John, he sees himself in a monitor in the studio. Looks like a decent setup that they have. And he gets very distracted because John can't help but stare at himself So it goes kind of like this you go to this is weird cuz I'm on delay. So So you probably don't want to do we have to have that up there? No It's distracting and I hate looking at myself. I'm I look like shit. I get it. I think you look nice I look like shit. I get I think you look nice

What is this man hiding underneath that blanket that he calls a t-shirt So what I want to know this is a very large man But what an asshole John would be to interrupt the show to be like doesn't have to be like that to be like that cuz I'm Staring at myself, and I'm on delay and it's like a child. Yes You know it's like a mobile hanging them over something like that because I'm staring at myself and I'm on delay and it's like a child it's like you know it's like a mobile hanging them over something like that you can't concentrate without moving or something so John immediately turns this into bragging about his career but he backs way up to his very first job that he ever had so I had but before that I was a little kid and People would come come to my you know come to the backyard like pulled into the back

I had a picnic chair there and I would sit there and I got you know a dollar ahead. I take you to my backyard I was always making money Nick. I never ever stopped the hustle I'm a hustler then I had a Newsday route when I was 12 and then 13 I started at wholesale tire and in Farmingdale in a warehouse, tire warehouse. And that's where I got these biceps. That's where I got the guys lifting tires and throwing them. Are you impressed by those biceps? Oh, absolutely. I, you know, I, I dare to have that at some point, but it's funny at 13 he's working in the tire industry? Yeah.

You didn't do that? Manual labor at 13. Throwing tires around. Hey, let's get the Preview Besant kid over there to move these tires around. His arms look like cooked spaghetti. And he thinks he's throwing tires around, for goodness sakes. Imagine you worked on The Tonight Show and Howard Stern.

You were in these movies and doing all these cameos and all this stuff and you're like well I've had a paper route when I was nine and then when I was ten I started charging people admission Go in my back. We're gonna go to a commercial Backyard he never really elaborated what he has people to do is yeah I really grow up where people are paying a dollar to see their backyard. I think it was to see the picnic chair So there was a reference to a ghost house in his neighborhood and apparently people would he was like a Behind them or some as people go in his backyard to look at the house. I guess I Think all of this is nonsense I don't I think all this is made up as we're gonna find out is John throws out some things I can prove

When I was an embryo I Used to help pull the cord in with the food came through That's right got these bites Dude that's when his muscle memory started Like the ropes, you know all right so this is fun because he brags about how much money he was making working for the tire place when he was a little kid it was like i would say it was slave labor but the only thing was great about it is that we were in school so they didn't take taxes on and they paid us cash. Wow cash. So you imagine being 13, 14 and getting 500

every week. That's awesome. Okay I can't imagine being 13, 14 worried about your tax bracket. Yeah he's not worried about it now. He claims he was making $500 per week at the ages of 13 and 14. Well I'll say 14 that was 1979 500 bucks in 1979 is $1,782 today that would mean he was making a salary on tax of 92 thousand dollars working at this job it's not true it's just it's no flat out a lie and no one ever calls about this shit I I wish John would come out our show again well not to mention the actual mechanic who actually uses the tires and fix this stuff. Yeah, he doesn't make 92 So it's just a lie and John is just in full-on

braggadocious mode throughout the first half of this podcast That's like boxing training. They have those big tires, right? Yeah, that's why like, you know, I don't want to hear people. It's one thing like like my father was workaholic And I am too like I'll do I've always said, you know, I I get I get very kind of wrestle I have my real estate License I became a schoolteacher, you know You know, I passed the sea best to become a schoolteacher I mean, you know, I was a schoolteacher in California schoolteacher, you know, I Passed the C best to become a schoolteacher. I mean, you know, I was a schoolteacher in California schoolteacher in Florida So where I you know, and that's where I wrote my own

curriculum Book and it's just like I've always you know, I had two record deals Hey, you know what I mean mean, and it all pays off cause now I get two pensions. His bragging is so screwed up from writing his own curriculum to, oh, and I wrote a book too. Yeah, forget about the curriculum thing.

That, just talking about the book. Well, and he acts like this podcast is like 10 minutes where he has to get all of this stuff out, where everything he's ever done. And this poor guy here, this big dude over there, is kinda looking at him like, I don't even know where to go next. I'm just gonna let you keep rambling.

It's a weird way to be in an interview bragging about yourself, going back to the age of 10, and then up to being a substitute teacher in California and Florida. He's using this time, and I'm sure it's been like this through his whole life. He doesn't, this guy doesn't know he's a total loser yet. Right. Obviously.

And John knows that time is going to come soon. So this is his time to shine with his brags. Always be bragging. Always be bragging. I love, like John can't stop himself from going through his resume as soon as he's just like yeah Well, I also did this and then he has to like get it all out and he has to give you all the the credits But the fact that he said that he's a workaholic He's the laziest asshole. We have documented this when the tonight show went away

Jay Leno very generously gave everyone a big payout giant got like a hundred ten thousand dollars And what he did with that was he drank at the bar every day for a year without getting a job He sent a couple of emails to a couple of hr people saying hey, do you need someone to host a sitcom? Yeah announce Very crappy emails. Yeah, he's not gonna get a job for this. That's what I would do I wrote a letter the other day. I was like, you know, I think I could play equalizer. You know? Tell Denzel to sit down. You know? But it's, I think what's different with him too is like, when it comes to him trying to get another gig, I think he really, really, I mean, he really leaned on the fact that he did the Tonight Show and thought that was going to be something announcer wise yes And you see you see the announcers that are that are out of work

And you see the guys that even the guy that he replaced you know Was was was was better than him so it's not even a matter of you writing a letter to anybody like that It's not you're not gonna. You know EDR. It's worse than that. He lost the announcer job while he was still working for the show They were just like, okay You can go in the back and write or something. They were trying to find something for him to do. Can I draw? And then there I go So you gotta be jealous again, so to speak because this business show business is fucking unforgiving Of course shit about anything right and yet even after he screwed up. They still said hey you can hang around

Yes, me know why in the radio gig you lose a radio gig. You're gone. They don't even mention your name anymore Yeah, they were like you know we're not even let you go Just just hang around and find something to do you know we'll still pay you Jay one I've seen him in interviews talk about how he's never fired someone Like so Jay's a pretty easygoing guy very easy go who's just like Jay's a pretty easygoing guy. Very easygoing guy. Who's just like, hey, well, John's, you know, he's Chris John, it's great, stick around.

John probably knew that going in. He's like, well, he doesn't fire anyone. So yeah, a workaholic, even though he took an entire year off, didn't pay child support, got emails from his ex-wife saying, hey, you owe all this back child support, seven months. Can't talk, job searching. And Howard even mentioned how he hated to fire people so now he worked for two people that are on a higher echelon that Afraid to fire him so he doesn't really really know what it feels like to lose a gig other than maybe the teaching gig

But it doesn't matter with these that he lost a teaching gig because he well I've done bigger things than this So I don't even care so he has no concept of actually being let go right Yeah, Howard kept around because they didn't pay him shit right so that didn't matter they'd someone answer the phones right so fine All right, John starts busting the the producers balls of course which is oh John when he starts busting balls man He cracks himself off. I Had the band I was in battle the bands What your producers there my Tony hey Tony, I'll figure Tony from Long Island you must be the only one Get that face

Thinks that's a great line right there Yeah, there's probably a lot of Tony's on Long Island. You got him there Johnny. I've never met a guy so proud of so little I've seen your stand-up before you like to talk with people in the audience and stuff if there's a guy like hey What's your name Tony? Oh Tony in Rochester? Yeah, it's funny like he's like okay There's a knock at the door Okay, you open the door the guy says something to you, and you can't even finish it You just like just close the door slowly

Tony from line. It's like oh man. Okay good stuff job all right now We go into this long story, and I know we've heard some of the stuff before but he's changing the story now, which is interesting You know his band was the coolest band in high school. Of course and uh, they did the battle of the bands And so this is john talking about how we got his band paid So in 12th grade, I was smart. I became a home room representative So I you know, I was part of the government of Plain Edge High School. This is the guy who ran for Senator in California. What else have you done? I was a homeroom something or other. I was a representative.

At that time I was the Amway salesman in the neighborhood. Now I had my in. I had my foot in the door so I convinced the president to idiot I mean this guy named Kevin Laurie, and I convinced him to To do battle the bands again So now we're gonna do the battle band so they want to pay each band $400. I said fuck that I Write this letter. I type it on my own. You know then we had typewriters in those days. Okay. I'm gonna pause it right there 1983 I'm a crone ass man who's been playing in a pad for 25 30 years. This is ridiculous And plus you're getting paid to battle. It's not even like it's not even like okay $400 is the prize, right? Yeah, you're just getting paid 400 bucks. Right wait till you hear what he says the prize is

It's not even like it's not even like okay $400 is the prize right? Yeah 100 bucks right wait till you hear what he says the prize is But I just immediately I'm my bullshit Raiders going off I'm like there's no way they're gonna be $400 to play a show and John just like that's not enough money So yeah, he goes on I Typed the letter and I give it to our principal Dr. Manley. Believe it or not that was his name. I believe it. And I give him this. So I'm in homeroom and then I get and then the homeroom teacher goes You know somebody comes with a pass

Mr. Malendez, Dr. Manley wants to see you in his office. Mr. Malendez. So there I am sitting across from dr. Manley shit for brains Stuttered fuckface He's better in fuckface To see you in his office. Oh my gosh shit. So there I am sitting across from dr. Manley he goes John I go yes, he goes I want to tell you something what you did is the most professional thing Alright, I just have a quick question Do you remember any conversations you have with your high school principal?

Couldn't tell you one conversation I had with a teacher or a president remembers everything it's amazing how that works But sorry he goes he said John I said yeah There's a little fat you can cut off that story, John. Make it a little leaner. They say brevity is the soul of wit. It's made of the witless. Yes, he goes, I want to tell you something. What you did is the most professional. I want to tell you something. I would hope so. He asked me to come down here and film to me in class.

This is a woke dad story, right? Yeah, this is all bullshit. I want you to know you are the most incredible human being I've ever met. Oh, God. Manly, he goes, John? I go, yes? He goes, I want to tell you something. What you did is the most professional thing I've ever seen somebody do.

And... Do you know how many teachers and administrators are just like, what the fuck, that was the most professional thing go fuck yourself. Dr.. Manley Yeah, I think of all the other students that went through that high school that were probably I mean get started John wasn't studying John then he was just some knucklehead correct So there's obviously other students that might have said something that been that he's seen in a lifetime It's just amazing how all of a sudden. This the one guy. John had a C minus average. There's definitely more professional people going to this school than John.

But anyway. Not only am I going to give you a gold seal on your diploma with distinctive effort, but I am also going to get you. You will make. He's literally talking about getting a gold star. You also get a set of steak But wait there's more Fucking idiots I can't believe he's pregnant by the gold star

Like out of everything he talked about I mean he's trying to make himself look so good to every minor detail Yeah I mean he's trying to make himself look so good to every minor detail Yes, the goal like he could tell us the thousand stories that is told before Without having the gold star in there we would go boy. That's enough, but he's going out My life needs to let people know I have that known people my life that I've had the gold star isn't that interesting This interview is him trying to impress these guys Mm-hmm, and and you're gonna see this over the course of the next few clips that I play It's non-stop him trying to show these guys how cool he is. Who else goes into an interview like that?

Anyone else who's this insecure? Yes, that would be the answer. No one's this insecure. No one else in the world. Maybe Obi. But I am also gonna get you, you will make half of the door for each show. Gonna get you you will make half of the door for each show Because we did to that year and he allowed me to take out cut out of school to cut out of classes To go to each class to promote it Wow each fan walked out with like two G's That's a new detail I never heard before Skip class to promote his show to interrupt other classes

Hey, you dumb fucks By the way, all you people don't give a shit here studying John, you know, it's funny if all the bands got $2,000 What's the battle? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna get there. That's a good observation Need to take out cut out of school to cut out of classes to go to each class to promote it Wow Each one that would like two G's each time so fucking my man and the other band imagine that okay So now he's claiming it was ten thousand dollars the first time he told this story He said they made ten thousand dollars right now. He's claiming his two thousand each show so four thousand dollars for each band So that's on like eight thousand dollars total if there's two bands, right? Which is not how a battle the bands works, but he explains there's only one other been

$4,000 that he received for his band would be twelve thousand eight hundred and forty three dollars today I'll tell you his his imaginary accountant must be losing his mind Tell you his his imaginary accountant must be losing his mind No one would buy this it's not how high school works, where were they charging for tickets? I'll be giving a read on where they play. He's got an NIL contract for bands in high school I mean you could look up ticket prices for touring bands at that time 1983 yeah, and they're probably 750. Maybe 10 bucks. Maybe probably not. Probably less than that.

So it's not like there's no way you're getting to $4,000 from these shows. Anyway, he's ridiculous. So he talks about how cool his band was. We had t-shirts and a lot of the kids in school would walk around with stiff minister t-shirts. They would write it on desks, our emblem all over the doors, stiff minister. We had this whole like, like all the chicks loved us. It was awesome. This is crazy. This is like, if you were talking to your kid, and he you were telling us, so what was it like? And he would, he would make up this big story and then we were flying and then you're like,

Oh yeah, that's good. Right? I mean, that's, this's almost it's almost kind of I feel sorry. It's kind of hard to listen to Like I don't even know what this guy is thinking, you know, he's sitting there going this is all bullshit Yes at a certain point. I'm sure he realized that this is crazy. You have a guy who brags about Being a professional musician and touring with Ozzy and touring with all these bands and he's going this into detail about stiff minister his high school band yeah and about how the cheerleaders were fighting each other to jack them off because they're so popular and I love the idea like all the students were wearing the shirts and scratching the emblem and you know Who was doing that the guys in the band? I've been in high school

I know how this works the guys in the bed are really into their bad. No one else is but he's painting this picture like he was the coolest guy in school and He goes on to talk about the So the ghost thing because this guy brought up the ghost out long I don't think he was all excited about so John always does this thing he tries to pull you in he's like oh you're gonna love this story he does this a couple of times he'll even reach out and like touch the person oh you're gonna you're gonna love this story. Well you would love this so the first battle of bands so nobody everyone

thought I was singing because in 11th grade we did it And and and we were like the best band then we were a stranger was our name Named after the ghost in you know in my mom's house. But anyway, that's a whole nother story I can't wait to get to this. Yeah, that was just an episode of Famous and Afraid where well They took a bunch of celebrities and they and we talked about our ghost experiences when we were kids who hosts I forget but there was a bunch of me Steve Guttenberg. There's a bunch of celebrities Guttberg who ever brought the guttenberg someone with a gut Corrected oh, so he goes I was on this show called famous and afraid there's naked and afraid yeah

There's no famous and afraid I don't think it's called famously afraid and I guess who else was on that show one hell sparks Oh also did an episode of famously afraid where celebrities who need attention make up ghost stories It's so wave. I've watched that episode And you know look and he doesn't remember the name or the host right I know Somebody has to throw a credit because he just he had that thought He's like I was in a band where I was the singer think about what he just said He goes and everyone thought I was gonna be the singer because we were the best band around

The year before when I was the lead singer and that band was called stranger because there was a ghost and I was on a tv show because of the ghosts and uh, Steve gutenberg was on that. Steve guttenberg was on a TV show because of the ghosts and Steve Gutenberg was on that so Gutenberg was on that too All right, so let's get back to the this huge battle the band show that he did So apparently they wheeled out the singer in this coffin Because everyone thought John is gonna be the lead singer. They didn't realize that they had another guy sing But anyway, so I'm there so So then we would so then in there's no 12th grade everyone thought I was gonna be the lead singer

But we kept the quiet and we had this guy John Carroll was the big Ozzy guy the big Judas Priest guy like the insane Guy so then we had I have my keyboard player do like a funeral march, and then we had our I have my keyboard play a do like a funeral march, and then we had our Paul bearers come out in black gowns carrying his black This is his big story that he's telling cuz the guys are cool. You like metal who's the host Nick? Did this guy ask him a question to get to this point did he even ask him a question No, no, he's letting him go and that effect if we watch it. He hasn't moved at all. Well, he might Know that's a good point because it started with John bragging about how he had these jobs when he was younger And then that turned into high school time and I was in a band

We were the coolest band all the girls loved us like oh, you're gonna love this. Oh, you're gonna love this That that's a crazy way to get there and none of his none of his stories To give any of them any kind of creeds None of them has any part of his life of him failing at everything, even though we can all see that. But it's so funny, like you could say, hey man, I went over here too and I meant to meet this chick and,

and, you know, and we hooked up and everything and everything outside that, and I got crabs or something like that, you know? And then you at least go, oh, okay, well he's one of us, you know? But, but everything's like, I hooked up with this chick, and she couldn't get enough of me. She's banging on my door.

It's just crazy. No, you're right. And there's even, when he talks about, when he's reminiscing about the Howard Stern days, he'll talk about how great his appearances were, and how he was the funniest, he made everyone laugh. It's all up on YouTube. We go and watch, and he's being berated by Howard

for doing the wrong thing and not learning the lessons. But John recreates this world so you know none of this happened right no this happened the way that he's explaining this happened and I would love if someone had videotape of this performance stiff minister with this big reveal carrying his black painted black coffin and they bring it to the stage and then the coffin is placed on the center of stage and then we go into you got nothing coming and then it's just go then and the coffin opens John Carroll comes out he's got the 666 on his shirt he comes out there and we go into you got nothing

coming yeah wow listen i don't think you know he talks about this and how it's exaggerated Another thing coming. More than life. Yeah. Wow. Listen, I don't think, you know, he talks about this and how it's exaggerated. I believe, excuse me, there was a battle of the bands. But I can tell you anything after that, nothing happened. I would go as far as to say none of this has happened. There was no coffin, there were no pallbearers. I mean, you're talking high school.

It's high school. And no one would be like holy shit They have a new singer this bad. Yeah, let's go. I just thought there was a dead guy in the car Yeah, we're gonna cough in and Paul Bearer's and costume changes every props to Nick for going whoa Wow, that's killer man Nick's Nick's hanging in there Like I said, it's like talking to a five-year-old. He's like, oh, okay. That's great. You know, wow, that's so cool Imagine being 60 years old and talking about your senior year of high school like this On a show not even was like a guy who went to high school

Yeah, you know that'd be one thing if you were talking to an old buddy and you're like, oh my gosh You remember the bail the bands? Then you could have a conversation not like this, but you'd have a conversation Oh my gosh, you remember the bail of the bands? Then you could have a conversation, not like this, but you'd have a conversation. What is out of show doccy about this? And even as elaborate as this is, you would think someone would come out of somewhere

and go, John, I remember that. Or hey John, I was in that band. Right. I mean, we got none of that, you know? Or you don't even have anyone that calls up and goes, John, well wait a minute John, okay, the copsman didn't pop open, it was just moved out there And he climbed out you know

Close to it right it was a cardboard box it was on stage for you guys went on But I actually have had people reach out to me who knew John from the Long Island days I know I one guy who went to high school with them, but they weren't in the same grade He didn't know him real well, but you're right you would think that people would be popping out of the woodwork to be like oh, yeah No, this was a killer show. I still remember it so glad I paid $60,000 to see it yeah, it would have made headlines Money was involved right so I love this because John's like really ramped up He's feeling he's feeling it you know these guys are buying into this and he's talking about this cool shit

And so he starts air guitar ring and singing guitar licks an area so then we go with the Black Sabbath paranoid I See it'd be funnier Nick was like oh, yeah, how does that go you didn't even have to now John just did this anyway Goes but sure I love it. He's like rocking out with this guy. This is the easiest guess this guy has ever had. Cause he's just sitting there going, Wow, yeah, cool. That's cool, that's killer, man, great.

Oh, so then there's the next battle of the bands, and they have to outdo themselves. And again, Jon tries to pull these guys in to the story. Then the next battle the bands You love this the same gallows, but now we did it differently, okay? So the next battle the bands they did it a little bit differently and so he's gonna start bragging about this

What happens is John Carroll goes through the trap door where they're curtained off so you don't know This is all coming out of the brain and stuttering John Melendez. Oh John so I figured out that Oh, yeah, I didn't even pick up on that. Yeah, it's coming out of your brain right now. Yeah, you're making all of this up But he's trying to brag about how he had these great ideas for the stage show This is all coming out of the brain is stuttering John Melendez. Oh a young stuttering John So I figured out that how to do this so he comes down. No one knows then they see a head with the same Pillowcase on his head that comes through the thing then the team and then we opened with hot rockin

dead and then then then then then boom Producer Chris try to figure out what he's trying to rock' is a Priest song. I'm a big Priest fan. Yeah. And that sounded like Frankenstein. Yeah, it sounds a lot like Frankenstein. But go back before the music because it's like, I don't mean literally, but go back before he even gets to that point where he said, it came out of the minus sign, the curtain came down and then the thing went here and

whatever. It's like, okay, what is that? And he's poking the guy's arm. He's like, oh yeah, you're gonna love what we did next you're gonna love this So they obviously bonded over a lot of priests when they were driving back from Chillercon Nick calls him out here, but I don't think he meant to and John tries to get past it The gate thing comes down pigs blood goes all over the front row and the freaking head falls into the freaking basket Oh shit, like Alice Cooper. Yeah, I didn't even know he did that but And again, I mean like then we did Godzilla from Blue Ice and Cold shit I had an eight mil of eight mil of black and white film of Godzilla we had on the stage

Eight mil of black and white film of Godzilla we had on the stage Hold on what he's trying to say millimeter right eight millimeter film. Yeah, that's a shit I had an eight mil of eight mil of black and white film. He just gave up an eight Miller This is look, you know, this is it's so I'm telling it's getting sad because now it's it's a point We're going okay, so pig blood. Yeah all over the place So think about this a high school battle the bands and he says he went to the butcher and got pigs blood They did this whole guillotine And the front row pigs blood went all out in the front was the guar concert was anyone ready for that? That's not cool. I'd be pissed plus. What position did they go in the show?

Last and pig blood goes out. This show's pretty much over after that And dr. Manley's like I've never seen anything this professional. I wish we get a hold of dr. Manley was still alive or something so this is Wild what this guy is describing, because not only are they doing all these really cool cover songs and ripping off Alice Cooper with their stage show, but they play originals too. And we did Our United by Judas Priest.

We had the American flags come down, and then we did two original songs. We had the hottest 12th grade girls in the school come out in bikinis and hold the titles. They start blowing me. Turn it off. How's this holding us off? No, come on.

This is embarrassing. Who's this guy here? This son of a bitch over here sitting there not saying a damn thing. You need to get him on the show and go, dude, how did you go that? 12 bikinis and stuff? American flags and we had the Jets go over too. Blue Angels come by. I talked to the Marine Corps they were able to they were cool about it. I'm telling you it's like it's like you're sitting there watching and I don't like to turn mental but a person that is just rambling like it's like if

you were sitting if he was sitting on the street corner and You gave him money and you started to sit down talk to him. Yeah, you just let him talk This is what this sounds like. Yeah, so this is we're actually pretty close to that Now now he's talking about 1983 was a crazy time before my time now He's talking about high school girls in bikinis Yeah are coming out on stage to hold up signs that have the names of the original songs they play. They'll come out in bikinis and hold the titles out.

We will do a whole stage show. How'd you pull this off? It's from the fucking mental fucking lunacy of stuttering John Melendez. But like we were like the Bayan, man. Listen, I would be, I wish I got to go into a suit and then get a podcast and have him on because I would be like okay this is great. Do you have one single picture of any of this? Any of it? A girl in a bikini, right, believe me if they're on stage in bikinis someone snapped a picture of that. You would think. But it's like any of it,

the flags lowering down Just any part of it would have been in the yearbook at least right something would have been that is the yearbook Now the big question is I think you were asking this earlier EDR did they win the battle of the bands because that's the whole point of a battle of the bands. Yeah, I win Oh, yeah, well, they didn't announce a winner, but Oh, yeah, well, yeah what they didn't announce the winner, but Yeah, you had us at pigs blood There's no way to lose is a rock and roll but we'll win this they were

The judges are gone, I don't know yeah, Ty we're calling it I have this one down pigs blood Yeah, I like the kid I just like the other kids ever played on the used drum set better You know cheese the bragging came to an abrupt halt You made all this other shit up to say you want new So areas one I mean I would I would rub it into the other bands like all year long. That's fucking sick stiff minister Another year at that school just to be in a bad

I Love that he's playing into this. Yeah, that's sick, man. That's so cool Oh, you would rub it into the other band guy blew it. He had the perfect chance to just know this is great No, this is great. I love what he did Nick. This is perfect Don't listen to EDR. This is the perfect. She's just got to go along with that. Let John. We need to stop this mad Oh, no, no, what's that? I know where I could say stop the madness, but he won't stop. I think it's great Oh, and I don't know if you know this a lot of bands have taglines in 1983 it's a very important part of being in a band Fucking that's a great story. That's awesome. It ain't stiff that ain't worth the fuck

God so vile If it ain't stiff it ain't worth the fuck high school by the way He's still laughing about it in that great He just I'm telling you this my Time I came up with that Wow I love this it's so fun All right, what else is he talking about on here? And then when I was in college, I don't know what I wanted to do College and tried to figure out what he wants to do for a living season two yeah

And then when I was in college, I don't know what I wanted to do That's why in high school like I have no idea what I want to do I don't you know I don't want to be a lawyer. I don't want to be a doctor I don't want to be an accountant for Christ's sake I love that he thinks those are his options Yeah, that's pretty good. Well. I could be a lawyer. I could be a doctor. I could be an accountant, but I don't know I'm above all of those things. I'm gonna do with all that your pig's blood What a douchey thing to say just to throw out professions that take eight years of schooling and Obviously to be very intelligent studious to get these he had terrible grades in school

And he's sitting there going, my options were doctor, lawyer, accountant, astronaut. The only way it sounds good is if he was actually trying to be funny. I don't want to be a doctor or a lawyer or something like that. But you know he's actually saying it. He's not kidding about it. Yep. So EDR, I don't know how you feel about this, but I oftentimes rag on John for working his act into interviews I think it's a hack thing to do No, no, it's a different one

The last year at NASA Community College because because I saved my cheap-ass father Some cash my father was so cheap his idea of a trust farm was John will get nothing. Trust me. So so So I went to a national community college and I did that oh the trust form when I forgot about that yeah my dad was so cheap how cheap was he had to big part of that he's got a bunch of jokes for that now John's trying to pretend he went to community college because his dad was cheap not because his grades were garbage and that was his only option

We know that for a fact now. We've seen the transcript and John's still trying to play it off like no no no Harvard was calling and yeah And I was just like I don't know what I want to do yet. Give me a couple years of figuring out Before I make a final decision guys come on oh This is I'm catching John another lie here, but it starts out with something we've heard many times John's very proud of this pulp fiction trivia that he likes to tell people Tony you're gonna love this you ever see pulp fiction of course alright, so you know the scene where John Travolta Stabs Uma Thurman with an adrenaline shot sure okay Quentin Tarantino in the foreground on the bookcase take a guess what the two board games he has operation one monopoly clue no what is But the boss's wife? Yeah.

He's saving her? Life! There you go! Life. Operation Life. I never knew. Google it. Google it.

You can put it on this show. Operation Life is in the foreground. I'm also a producer. He thinks that's the most amazing anecdote or movie trivia fact or movie trivia fact anyone's ever heard he really let that stretch out like just be like yeah It's kind of cool. They put operation in life on there. It kind of symbolic of the scene that was happening Mmm. He can't explain things like that. I just guess what guess what it is. Nope. It's not monopoly. Nope You've got some fuck that shoots at ladders. It's not mouse trap. Oh, that is a good game Ladas it's not bounce trap. Oh that is a good game

Shoot some light, you know It's funny is because he does it that way obviously because he wants to show you look I know something you don't know Correct, okay, rather than it because you know most of us just go yeah Did you see operation in life around the thing there too? But if I remember correctly from my John ology, I think he didn't he direct quit and Tarantino at one time Oh, you think that's gonna come up in a moment Think he didn't he direct quit and Tarantino at one time. Oh you think that's gonna come up in a moment But first first he throws in this lie that I've never heard before I Was so fascinated by that then I said, okay, I

Major in directing so then I went to NYU So John says he was fascinated by the fact that qu Quentin Tarantino put those board games in the scene And that's why he majored in directing only problem is pulpfish. It came out in 1994 John was interning on the Howard search of a 1988. Oh my it's not even close It's just making this shit up Well, he's gotten away with murder with Nick. He's like oh this guy's a sucker. Yeah, yeah, don't say anything Let's hear about how amazing he was in school of course I Started getting these in all my films cuz I was putting the camera where students were like how did you know to put the camera? There I'm like I don't know and then

Maybe in the films, and I realize I can act. It's amazing, isn't it? Now he's trying to let you know that he has so much talent he can't even control it. It's all over the place. It's taking him over. He just goes with it. He doesn't even know how he is able to pull it off. And the other students are in awe. The other

student's like, whoa, how did you do that, John? It's like, when you're mental like me. He talks about how he was a great actor as well. And we've seen him act. And he's not a good actor at all. We've seen one too many. It's terrible.

Wings. Anytime Quentin Tarantino gets brought up, you know this anecdote has to come out. But a little caveat to that story of Quentin Tarantino, when I become a writer on The Tonight Show. All right, I paused it there. We know what he's going to say. It's fine. It's enough. But he wraps that up with talking about how amazing his life has been.

I can't believe Stuttering John is directing Quentin Tarantino. I mean, what are the fucking odds? So to say I've had a charm life is an understatement. Has he ever watched another accomplished performer getting interviewed? No, I Wonder what he thinks you should how you should conduct yourself. I've never seen Tom Cruise I've never seen Bradley Cooper go through their resume and talk about meeting famous people Well, yeah, because it's like it's like because I think you've been there we get it half the explain it because it's like it's like because I think you've been there I think we got it half the explain it because he's Tom Cruise and you see coming forward you go

Oh, that's Tom Cruise whatever whatever but this guy when he talks about it I want a boy be nice if he ever just if Quentin Tarantino in some circle heard this interview About him about him directing him You don't think that's going to bring him out of the woodwork to hear something? Just to be able to go, no, that's not true or whatever. And I mean, you know, I don't know Quentin Tarantino, but I've seen him before. And he says, no, he says, well, I kind of did. I went to Pulp Fiction 15 times. And so it's like, I just think that is really weird because if he's saying all this and

he's out on this and everyone's looking at it, like we're looking at it now. So the odds of it getting back to somebody, it's like you go, you know what? I fucked Tori Spelling. That's not the one I would have picked but good for you. Listen, what am I talking about? I came up from behind. But the point is this, I could say that and if I meant it, I'd you. Listen, what am I talking about? I came up from behind. But the point is this, is I could say that, and if I meant it, I'd be worried about, that's gotta get back to somebody at some point.

He doesn't even worry about that. Well, his definition of directing is off on this one. Because what happened was, the story that he explains is there's a cold open, it's gotta be 30 seconds, Quentin Tarantino just rambles on for a minute and a half, and John goes, we gotta shoot that again, Quentin, you gotta just stick to the script. And then they shot it again. And he's like, I 30 seconds Quentin Tarantino just rambles on for a minute and a half and John goes We gotta shoot that again Quentin you guys just stick to the script and then they shot it again He's like I directed it. It's not directing. That's not what a director does. I told him where the bathroom was Right directed it towards the bathroom I directed it to the bathroom

Alright, this is the last clip I have on here. This is hilarious Because Nick says something Jack gets very upset with him I feel a show is only as good as the people that are in it I used to watch the Howard Stern show back in the day Because of the guys in the whack pack and like guys like you I was never in the whack You were part of the original crew though, but I was never a whack packer. They never put you in that no But I was never a whack packer. They never put you in that? No. What the fuck? What are you fucking mind?

I thought you were like part of that. No you dumb fuck. What are you talking about Nick? So I'm like insulting you right now. Well you would think so wouldn't you? What do you put me in with fucking Beetlejuice? No I'm not trying. And Fred the Elephant Boy? You fucking prick. I saw in the comments someone wrote Both Beetlejuice and Fred the elephant boy are funnier than John

See that's the difference to John's head smaller than Beetlejuice, so You know it's funny it's just it's so weird that I mean he's really he's really pissed off at this now and It's it's it's funny because I ever thought if I were ever to meet John, I'd be like, Oh, you're one of the the whack pack. As a matter of fact, I was talking to my brother, my brother lives in Atlanta, and I was talking to my brother about this show and you guys and stuttering John. And I asked my brother, you know, who didn't listen to the Howard Stern show back then, because back then, everyone thought it was racist, whatever. And sure, black people kind of stayed

away from it back in the day. So but so but he when I asked him about it and I said about what your brother's black too. Yes. He is one of the family I guess. No, we all have this big birthmark. But it's like it's like and I asked him about I said he was stuttering time and he even said oh was it one of those crazy guys that that Howard used to bring on and stuff? So he didn't equate it to that either. Well, you can tell by John's reaction. This isn't the first time. It's very effective. He's very, he's waiting for it. Here it comes. So I have to tell you guys that I left off about 20 minutes into this

interview. I had so many classes. I'm like, all right, we'll save the rest for later. Yeah. Yeah. This is incredible. This is an incredible episode. I'm so glad 20 minutes into this interview. I had so many clips. I'm like, all right, we'll save the rest for later. Yeah. It is incredible. This is an incredible episode. I'm so glad that John did this. Oh my goodness. So, well, to be continued on a future episode of WHDP, this is a post that somebody put up

who met John at ChillerCon, and he says, the one and the only, Suthering John from The Howard Stern Show, he started the conversation with me the minute I walked into the room commenting on my cheap trick hat and the fact that he opened for them He then shared many a story about various celebrities in rockstar. We must have talked for a half hour Well 15 minutes the rest was stuttering. I'm kidding. He was very cool. Obviously a big Trick fan as well. So this guy doesn't even know what he's doing because he just posted this on social media going,

isn't this cool, I met Sutter and John, he has a picture with him. But what he's saying is that John saw the Cheap Trick Hat and immediately had a brag about his resume and what opening for them. Do you know that was in a band, we opened for Cheap Trick? You know what's funny, and many times as John's talked to a bunch of people that end up on this show

or maybe even like Uncle Rico or something like that, that he still can't help himself but to meet people and to sit there and chat with them and talk to them and give them stuff that they can use on the show. I know. You think after Kate Meany, and that's me, after the first time Kate Meany got me, I wouldn't talk to anybody. No chance. But you get him twice.

Yeah, with the same person. And then every other person comes up to anybody But you get him twice Person comes up to any and he gets him you know I Don't think John asked that guy if he could have a picture with him Pretty cool. Can I get a picture with him someone in the chat earlier was writing it? It's obvious John does not talk to people very often I just based on this interaction where he's just telling this guy his life story without even a question about it It's like all right, man. Relax Let this guy interview for you for a second and then when he tries to interview me goes so you were a whackbacker Right, so that didn't go well, but

To be continued more to come. Uh, I am happy to tell you We have a guest on the show a gentleman who I don't believe has ever appeared on who are these podcasts before Correct me if i'm wrong. It's the Aussie guy. What's up Aussie guy. Good night, Carl, Chris. Good to see you buddy. Sorry. Uh, no, I don't, I've not been on the official WATP before I've been on a

bonus show, uh, back when April got arrested, I think. All right. Yes. And, uh, yeah, I, I had you on to tell me how I got it so wrong with Aaron Imholdt, that's right. And I think, I think I did tell you. You did. Yes. And yeah, I had you on to tell me how I got it so wrong with Aaron Imholz. That's right And I think I think I did tell you you did Ozzy guy, I apologize. You actually reached out to me a while ago To do this segment and we just have been very bad at communicating through Twitter DMs as a lot of people will tell you Very bad at that

But you wanted to come on and talk about blind Mike now blind Mike of course is my buddy He'll be with us in Boston hopefully after this at the city winery But blind Mike never misses a chance to take a shot at me when I'm not around for WATS Or when he's doing the blind Mike project, and I'll see like, I think it's time that we put him in his place. So what did you bring for us today? What did you prepare for us? Yeah, well, you're right, Carl. He was sticking it to you a bit, dunking on you a fair bit.

And also, I'm a listener to the Blind Mike project. Me too. And I think it's a great fucking show. And he's always, pretty much every first segment, he's burying the producer that's not there. Yeah. He's talking about messages that like they sent him and really inconvenienced them and like just buries them for five, ten minutes.

You know, he's good at that. So he was doing that to Kregers one day. I don't remember what for because we all know Mike's he like goes off the handle pretty easily. But one day I kind of remembered some stuff and I went, I'm going to look into this. I'm going to do a little bit of an investigation and see if I can prove that blind my gear is a giant douche. Okay. I like the premise. So yeah. And thank you, Aaron. Imhol faith this week brought up the fact that I was on the show with Aaron,

with Husey six, seven, eight months ago. Who knows how long it was. And blind Mike reached out to me that weekend as well. Okay. And his first message to me said, how'd you get an interview with steel toy? Hmm. I was all right. I'm very direct. Mike's a direct guy. That's cool. Yes. Also really well known how you got an interview. He was out,

you were on the show and Aaron was on his show to talk about boxing. Yes. Yes. Correct. Correct. So I responded. It was on his show. Yes, correct. Correct. So I responded. It was on his show. Gave the details. Mike's next message to me was, what are you doing? Are you around Monday night? So I assume this is an invite on find Mike projects. Yes. And I said that time like that kind of coincides kids waking up breakfast, school, all that. And at this point, I think I scared Mike with the time difference thing. This confused him. Scares the hell out of me too. What time is it? Where are you? What day is it? Does anyone know?

Yeah. It's Sunday morning at 10 past three in the morning. Jesus. Thank you for being here, buddy. That's a commitment. It's a great opportunity and I appreciate it. So that spooked him and you know he's figuring out what's this wizardry you're having breakfast when I'm having dinner. That's scary. So Mike then kind of assumes I'm as dumb as he is. Mike thinks the earth is flat. I think he's a flat. That's why he was confused by that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So at this point, Mike kind of thinks I'm as dumb as he is because his next message was what's your schedule 10 to 11 hours from now? Okay, so now go look at the time stamp. Right.

Just send a message from now. What you're doing. Yeah, so now I'm solving a puzzle to unlock the secret time. When I reach out to Ozzy guy, I make him do the conversion. I say, Hey, it's this time Eastern time, but at least I tell them the Eastern time so he can figure out the calculation. Carl, Echol pineapple and I, Echol is British. I'm Australian.

Aaron thinks you're both Australian, but okay. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Yes. We plan our show on us Eastern time. That's how we plan it because we're in the, we're in the double verse. And it's not, not that it's a great time, Eastern time in terms of, we both know that time. So it's easy to converse in that way. But anyway, Mike's making me solve a puzzle. I figure out the puzzle is it's 10

slash 11 a.m. Eastern Sunday morning, which is that's when he's on my. Yeah. And that's my time slot as well. I mean, it's not right. Yes. Yes. You do. You do. United States of Australia is your show. Yes. Thank you. And we'll get to that. So how much that gets mentioned over this. But anyway, get to that as to how much that gets mentioned over this. But anyway, so I figured that out. I messaged Mike back and say, I'm doing my show from 10 AM Eastern. I'll do about an hour and then I can give you a little bit of time at that point. So I'm saying about 11 AM Eastern, I can give you a little bit of time after that. Bearing in mind, this is the day after the confrontation with Aaron. Times it. Yeah, very good. So I was like, yeah, I'll do an hour and go on with you. Mike says, I may send you a link.

Oh, big time deal. Yes. Yeah. Hopi style. You'd be ready to go in case I sent you a link. Yes, exactly. Wow. And then that's the last, that's the last I hear from Mike. All right. So this is where we're going to get to my first clip, Carl. So the next contact I receive from the blind mic industries, I guess, I do a show, I just came off a show with Echo Pineapple.

What's your handle? It's our Ricky Gervais show. Look back on Ricky Gervais with Carl Pilkington. We do that before United States of Australia every Sunday. And so this first clip, clip one, Carl, is during about 9.30 in the morning. So 11 o'clock was the agreed upon time that I had mentioned when Mike said he may send a link to. So this is about 930 in the morning before United States of Australia. This happens on what's your handle, Clip 1. Hackride's here.

Fuck. I'll see if I can look for a link on X to blind my seed. After my show, hackride. All right, so that was the next contact I received still no time confirmation But but Ozzy guys working as as my legs producer here and he's giving you a heads up to look for this hack ride Hack riders mentioning that now my call you're obviously friends of blind Mike and a fan of my my project can you imagine the hissy fit blind Mike would throw if someone interrupted his show with that oh yeah he would non-stop berate Craig or a heck ride for putting it up I've actually seen him do that when I put in

the super chat and Craig right away just like I don't know why you're interrupting the show with that crack. So yes, I can only imagine. Yes. So he would have thrown it. And so for me at this point, still no time converse confirmation. My head turns to the right. That's me looking at the clock going, you send him in this at nine thirty.

Are you guys going at 10 against me? What's because I've still received no time confirmation, right? But so I finished the show I go check my DMS from hack ride and there's a link there and it just says blind mic link no time No mention of you know when this is happening. So I still don't have an official Time okay on what was this? is happening. All right. I'll cut to the chase. I didn't appear on Blind Mike that day. At this point, I think we're going at

11. I finished my show at 11 and I immediately click on the link. Nobody's there. Oh shit. 11.30 at night, half an hour after the original time we thought that I thought, right by my message and me, sorry, bro, we're doing it at 1230. OK. And I was like, hey, all right, this is the first time I've heard about a time. Yeah. I said, I can't do that. I've been awake for ages. That's way too late.

I'm left feeling like, did I fuck something up here? Did I get this wrong? You know, did I get the wrong time was I misunderstanding something very little communication? I guess is the point that and I wasn't sure I apologize to Mike and said sorry to fuck you around. Okay We go to clip 2. Okay, and this is Thank you to dang lizard dang dot lizard. I believe is his YouTube channel go subscribe Love dang lizard. Thank you Thank you to dang lizard. This is some very important Information he asked about

Why by Mike was late in a suit? Mike I know you can't see the clock but it shows you're late and Lady K. Oh yeah, we were very late. I apologize folks. I didn't know what time I'd be home. I was hoping 11. I was very optimistic, but no dice. I was here on time. I appreciate everyone hanging out. Also, the Aussie guy was here on time. So he was just chilling in the back yard. Oh, was he?

Yeah, but he had to go to sleep. He was up for like 24 hours straight so I didn't factor in the time difference. I was like yeah, you'll be fine Mike what the fuck Didn't factor the time difference Well, this is the thing Carl like factor in the time difference Mike We've already established that your feeble mind wasn't built for that smoke. I don't need you to worry about the time difference. I need you to factor in.

Just give me the time, right? I'm a human being that has a life and I don't need to be sitting around waiting for you. That is a dick move. You're right. He was really big typing you on this one. Just like, yeah, he'll come on the show when I'm ready. He was opien you. He was leaving you out in the green room.

It's amazing. It's amazing you said that, Carl. You say that, Carl. And for the first and last time, I'm going to say thank you for who are these socials on Thursday, because my clip number three, it was manna from heaven to help set me up into the next section of this.

This is you and blind Mike talking about OP on Thursday night. Made him wait outside the studio and not come in because OP was just big timing them. And that was one of the major Norton and OP fights was Jim staying like, Hey, that's rude to do that. Perfectly. Even if even if Hopey wasn't intentionally being rude, perfectly reasonable complaint. Yeah, tell someone to get here at nine and they get here at nine and then you have them in at 9 30. Jezelnik said that, there's a thing Jezelnik did,

he called like Hopey and Anthony, he's like oh it was just this racist show. Yeah I heard that on your show. Completely reductive way way But one thing he did say that I did find interesting He's like I went in there once and I had to wait for like two hours and then they cancelled on me That is a crazy way to behave Anthony just that was just this past Thursday Perfect timing as Mike seems to agree with you. That's a dick move To leave someone hanging like that Mike seems to agree with you. That's a dick move. That is to leave someone like that. That's interesting. What I love about, what I love about the specific times you guys mentioned, like Carl, you said half an hour, which is the amount of time, amount of time in my life that

Mike wasted. But he could have potentially wasted an hour and a half of my life because he had no intention of telling me. It wasn't until I messaged him and said, what's going on. Cause he, that was clearly what he said in the previous clip. Ah, he'll be fine. Yep. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't need to, I don't need to tell him. Um, but what I loved about that is Mike said that's a perfectly,

perfectly reasonable complaint. Right. Sure. And, uh, so following this, following him, fucking me over and wasting my time, I listened to his show and I enjoyed it, but he got some things wrong because he watched the clip. He watched the doom clip, which we'll find that out later. But we, he watched the doom clip that didn't have the whole show.

A lot of people to this day don't know that Aaron and I talked boxing very cordially for 15 minutes before that meltdown happened. And Mike wasn't aware of that either. There was facts he wasn't aware of. I corrected him in DMs. And then there was the infamous DM that I sent Aaron that broke so many people's hearts. It crushed some spirits. But I gave Mike the exclusive on that DM and he read that. So now we're into a second show of Mike talking about me and not at any stage did he mention the name of my show, plug my channel or anything like that. Not one, not one mentioned during any of it. So I put out a tweet, sorry, that's the other thing. Mike called me. He said I was unnecessarily polite to Aaron Imhol and I put out a tweet

basically saying that unnecessarily polite, Mike, I apologize to you when you were an hour and a half late. Okay. Good response. Yep. Yeah. And I also added to that and you never plugged my channel. Okay any point, right? So my clip number what we have to for or yeah Yeah, yeah my clip number four is a week later on the blind mic project. I get my plug United States of Australia, by the way, I guess I didn't plug his show enough. He was Angry about it or something It's very weird, but well that happens when you sleep in I mean wake up stay up

And you can be on the show and you wait a second so is Hack right or Casey day in this part also blaming you for missing the sounds I was does come across that way And I like that Mike turns into I didn't plug it enough. Right. You didn't plug it up. It's very, very different. Yeah.

Yeah. Now look, Carl people, I imagine they'll definitely be people accuse me after this of what a whiny baby. Oh, I'm sorry. What was that? Yeah. Yeah. What a whiny baby. Right? And look, Mike doesn't owe me anything. He doesn got, what a whiny baby.

Right? Yeah. Look, Mike, Mike doesn't owe me anything. He doesn't owe me a plug. That's true. Um, but that would be easier to swallow if it wasn't for my clip five, Carl. So the clip we have, I believe is from our friend doom. Yes, it is.

Yes, sir. Great clipper on the internet. Make sure you check out doom Yes doom and I saw a Stalin 19 had a clip I'm sure all the clippers are gonna have a field day of this as well and Like I said go subscribe to them because if you don't want our commentary they make it very easy to find all the like I just said go follow our boy doom There's there is a catalog of Aaron making an asshole of himself.

Shout out to Citizen M, go check him out. And check out Doom, who we got this video from. Well, so thank you to Doom for making that easy for us to find. Go subscribe to Doom. Big help today. And all the other clippers, I'm sure Stalin19 and My Lost Interest and all those guys will have plenty from Aaron's reaction So what you're showing us here is that Mike is quick to plug channels what he wants to yeah

Yeah, but not for the Aussie guy Yeah, and also in that like so doom doom was the hero of the day apparently right Anyone could get the video from hughes channel and watch it. Yes. Yeah, exactly He saved him 10 15 minutes now Mike spent 90 minutes talking about 23 minutes of my life To put that in context he spent 60 minutes talking about Richard Pryor's entire life

Different show format, but I hear you. Boy, a little bit on this one. Point being, I think I maybe I earned, I earned a plug, but I agree. Well, we've established though, from that say I took some time out of my day and pulled a bunch of clips from OJ in the morning so Mike could bully him off the internet, um, and I think that's a good way to get views. And I think that's a good way to get views. And I think that's a good way to get views.

And I think that's a good way to get views. And I think that's a good way to get views. I took some time out of my day and pulled a bunch of clips from OJ in the morning so Mike could bully him off the internet. I wouldn't, I didn't, that wasn't for my channel to get views. That was specifically for Blind Mike to do a segment on his show. Do you think Mike, he obviously, right, he mentioned my name a bunch of times, plugged my channel, thanked him, thanked me for the time I saved him on his show. Or do you think he didn't mention it at all and just acted like he did all the work?

I thought you were giving us a hypothetical. You actually did do that for Mike. Yeah. I don't understand your loyalty to this prick. This prick-wide Mike. I have nothing nice for you. And you continue to try to help him out. But I'm going to guess that he gave you no credit whatsoever and just acted like he sat through a very boring OJ in the morning episode and pulled all the clips.

Oh, that's a guy. I think, I think Blind Mike is racist against Australians, especially those on the West Coast of Australia. He doesn't respect your time zone. Doesn't respect your time. My thing was, I believe I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mike is a giant douche. Now I don't know if I've done that. You guys could judge if he treated me like a giant douche. I did also say to you, like it prove infinity that like I deserved infinitely better. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, when you multiply any number by zero, what do you get? You get zero. I know math really good. Yeah. Uh, but like doing the like six plugs and Stalin 19 got a couple of bugs for some reason. Uh, my old central system, they could potentially with the views on that show infinitely Get plugs forever

Package for us. Thank you for that enough. Yeah, but It's so late there. Oh, let you know you can hang out with us if you'd like to we got to some Open stuff coming up, but if you got to go to bed I understand that too if you're happy to have me I'll stick around If I haven't bored you guys completely, I think you already went to bed All right real quick it's time for our I actually got a All right real quick it's time for our Cringe of the Week I actually got a message from my buddy Drew Lane after we covered Eric Griffin's podcast last week and Eric Griffin's podcast. You know Eric Griffin? Have you met him?

One time. Okay. So the take that Adam Bush had that was interesting is that he's gotten way too comfortable with his celebrity at this point. He's not really trying, he's not putting in a lot of effort. And Drew really appreciated our review of that and he sent me an episode from a year ago that he did on Riffin with Griffin. Live once again and you know how we do it. But today we gotta do it quiet.

Ladies and gentlemen, he's literally got a baby on his chest and he's doing his podcast and he has to whisper. Welcome back to your favorite podcast. What the hell is he doing? Just take the day off. Take the day off. Give the baby to mom.

While you work, or take the day off. Welcome back to Riffin with Riffin, y'all. No singing mic today because I got Wulford on my chest. But we got a lot to talk about today. I want to bring a discussion from my Patreon episode to the main episode Dakota Johnson Talk publicly about why her movie was terrible anyway, so all I could do is just stare at the baby Terrible anyway, so all I could do is just stare at the baby

Distracted he has to whisper and he's breastfeeding the whole thing The whole thing is ridiculous as a as a parent myself like it keep your kids away from the shit Don't don't involve your kids at all in any of this It seems like a bad idea when we were playing it last time He was showing videos of his kid watching TV and then a photo of the kids sleeping on him And it's just like yeah, you don't want to do that. I want to talk about the opster Bah bah bah bah bah bah EDR, how do you feel about OOP? Well, you know, a long time ago when I was doing radio in Harrisburg, they had this October thing, what was that called?

Oh, Jocktober, that's right. That's right, you were the second ever person to get Jocktober'd, right? Yeah, so they talked about us in Jocktober and everything. We gotta find that. I wasn't really familiar with that show because I think, you know, I guess that show and Howard I'm talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show.

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You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. You're talking about the show. I'm not sure if that's what's inside his book actually. But I remember seeing some of the show and talking about it and I go, okay, well they're talking about it so I don't really want to listen basically. But now when they separated, I found myself listening to the

show when they were together. And then I, because of you guys, able to listen to Opie do his show or I don't know what he's calling it or anything. But it's's just it's weird to watch it's it's do you feel vindicated well I feel like I feel like I think the likable guy out of the two of them must have been Anthony so to speak yeah he was the funny was entertaining one funny one but when I listen to

OP, OP is he's kind of like John. He'll tell you everything that he's that he's done and how you know and apparently argue with individuals who are just in his chat and stuff or online. Whatever Anthony is, OP will have claimed to have made

him. Right. And so, it's just interesting to watch and I'm going, well, geez, that Anthony is a pretty interesting guy and you made him. He probably could have tore a little bit off of him and kept it for yourself All right, so he was live-streaming yesterday morning Have you ever so have you heard the Jack Tolbert of your radio show? No, I wonder if it exists. I hope not You don't want me to look at that

Look, I don't like this point. I'm an old man I don't I don't get disappointed listen. I'm an old man now That would be fascinating to well that made me interested about it because I go they they Jacktober and I was like wow that's pretty and that's the same guy I've never been on your show when you've had him on but I wanted to I was gonna bring that up because I Actually felt kind of flattered Oh, yeah Say but I mean it's like you know there's a lot of radio shows you can either Like or dislike and in fact that he picked you out of that. There's actually some some coolness to that you know for sure Yeah, you're like the second ever. That's there's something there. They found you for a reason

So this is opi stream from yesterday morning. Now of course we've been talking about how OP's got a new podcast network deal coming down the pike and it's going to mean more views and more money and all these great things for OP and this was brought up recently. We haven't heard about this in a long time. Don't forget sending stars motivates OP to continue live streaming daily. Oh my God, if that's not the truth if that's not the truth money money money Opie is back to asking for Facebook stars again. We were just joking about this the other day

It's been over a year for sure. Yeah, and we did the research on this a Facebook star is equal to one penny. Oh Geez, yeah What are we doing? This guy has that view of Manhattan out of his window behind him and he's like yes, I definitely need Facebook stars. That's actually his view from his place. Oh, yeah. Oh wow make fun of your radio show So he even though that's all over it and he's got to be rolling a little bit I mean, I you know, I'm looking at people's wallets. He's rolled. Yeah So, you know, so you can't just kind of go off in the sunset with it

I mean the guy that way he has a lot to say and Anthony you know you listen to him And he seems to be progressively Going on with everything that's around in the world and everything and but I watched him only because of you guys you Bastards, you know watching him, and he's always mad about some yep. He's complaining. Yep. Nothing goes this way Fair yes motherfuckers got a view. Yep. He's complaining. Yep. Nothing goes this way. Everything's unfair. Yes. This motherfucker's got a view of Manhattan. He talks about how bitter he is.

He uses that word. That's why I'm bitter. Yeah. It's like, dude, that changed something. This is ridiculous. What are we going to say Ozzy guy? I was going to say, yeah, can I do a Doug from good times, great movies. For the most part, I listen to these shows.

I'm not phones in my pocket and I'm just listening. Yeah. Everyone's been talking about how OP looks. Holy shit, man. Like this. I didn't actually realize. It was terrible. That's the other thing too, because when I look back and I see how they look when they

were younger and I look at Anthony, I go, well, Anthony's obviously older, but he's kind of progressed into the... This guy looks like James Hetfield in 80 Just for the past like 15 years people just kept on hitting him We described Anthony's appearance as a pile of shit That's stuck with me This is opi so you talked about how Anthony continues to be interested in what's going on in the world and talk about current events and does his show. Opie tries to do that a little bit too, but sometimes he doesn't do so well.

You know the song, I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It. I think it was a one hit wonder, even though the person person I don't even know her name that did the song You know was very respected in the in the music community I kissed a girl and I liked it that song. Well, she's dead She died in a house fire What terrible timing to everyone's talking about Katy Perry? She just went to space Everyone's clowning Katy Perry for doing selfies and shit when she's in outer space and Opie's still fucking out of it.

Then he thinks Katy Perry's song was a one hit wonder and Katy Perry died in the fire. It's Jill Sobeul. Yes. Was the woman who wrote I Kissed a Girl back in 1995. Very different song than what Opie's talking about. He needs a co co-host like I producer Chris here when I see someone really stupid he throws me a look at I go I was that not right. Okay. He needs a guy to throw him a look from behind the camera If he's a wife or something get in there What I love about what's going on in OP show right now is that?

everyone's clowning him for his purple mouth and the chat and he's not reacting well to it. He's not doing a good job with it and sometimes he doesn't even recognize what's going on. Oh gosh. You demand Keisha mouth OP. What does that mean? It's Geisha mouth OP. And do you know what that means Aussie guy? I don't actually know. I looked this up because I didn't know about this but apparently from like the the 1600s through almost the 20th century geishas in Japan would actually blacken their teeth. It was a symbol, a status symbol that showed that you were well off because you'd have

like the pink lips and the black teeth. That sounds horrific to me. But I just love that the guys called Geisha mouth OP. It's always like, I don't know what that means. You could guess what it means though, right? Probably talking about your mouth. No one's been making fun of you for it. It's good point.

But here's another one. Anyway, let's go to Diablo Sandwich. It's good point, but here's another one Anyway Let's go to Diablo sandwich did Clint ask why is your mouth purple son dude the purple mouth thing is Is that all you got? Diablo I tried but I got her get ready. Oh, he's blocking Diablo sandwich. Haha say it ain't so healthy Why don't you block your purple mouth? Diablo sandwich. Ah, say it ain't so. Oh, P, why'd you block your purple mouth? That's what I was about to say. Chris, like you guys have been talking for ages, like set up a little studio area and do it like you're supposed to be a pro.

And then you can do what I do. And my good buddy, blind Mike does have the pop filter in front of you. You can cover your mouth altogether. No, that's a good point. You're right. Yes. Wouldn't be that difficult, but Opie just keeps thinking that everyone's your mouth altogether. Oh, that's a good point. You're right. Yes. Wouldn't be that difficult but Opie just keeps thinking that everyone's making it up. Yeah. Oh, I know it's

because Anthony has a drinking problem. You have to pretend that I have a drinking problem. Somebody say my mouth is stained by red wine. It might be. I honestly don't know. I got a note from this Emily girl I'm going to read in a little

bit. She's got this theory. She's got a lot of videos Emily girl. I'm going to read in a little bit. She's got this theory. She's got a lot of videos and conspiracy theories about OP having all these alt accounts, soccer counts online and yeah, he's out there championing OP all over the place and argue with anyone who

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I knew what that was, but I would assume that it's like okay This guy's clowning my yeah again Speaking of clowning his appearance people been saying his eyes are getting real squinty Who looks more Asian popular over yeah, I Hey, who looks more Asian popular over here? I do I got I got I got all right I'm gonna tell you what's wrong with I'm gonna tell you what's wrong with my face this morning Your hair your mouth your eyes your face is what I mean He goes on to explain that you know I've always had

squinty eyes but now I have allergies too and I have these stupid thin bird lips and skin I've never heard of thin bird lips before I don't know that was a thing but that was another thing that he was complaining about on here so earlier in the show Opie says him and his wife were out looking at houses in the suburbs, which is Interesting because they own two other houses already, but apparently they need another house It's closer to the school So the kids can continue to go to the private school that they go to But he doesn't want to keep paying the ridiculous amount of money that he pays to live in the Upper West Side of Manhattan

So they're looking at houses and he's talking about how, oh my gosh, you go to the suburbs, everyone's smiling, everyone's happy, New York City, everyone's miserable and, and it sucks. And so people start saying, yeah, but Opie, what are you going to do? You can't brag about that view that you have. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Do do do do. Anyway, uh you guys, I guess you guys had a good week. There's nothing that bothered you this week, huh? I should point out, Opie has nothing for this episode as usual. So he's trying to do an old school radio thing. Oh, F you. Open up the phones. What's bothering you this week? What was the thing that pissed you off

the most this week? And he's doing it with the chatters. Right. So he wants the chat to participate in the oh, oh, but you know it's pissing me off as tariffs or whatever it is No one's participating because everyone's there to clown him about his appearance His lack of talent so he's not really getting anything going here. He's complaining about that, but this is the Transformation into stuttering John as he's singing little ditties and looking for something Do do do do do do do anyway singing little ditties and looking for something to read. Do do do do. Do do do do. Anyway, you guys, I guess you guys had a good week.

There's nothing that bothered you this week, huh? Oh, how are you gonna brag about the view of you move? If, how, oh, how are you gonna brag about the view if you move? Huh? Dante, what are you gonna brag about the view if you move huh? Dante what he doing I Love what he thinks people are turning on him because that day's been a guy who chats with Opie a lot I see him up on the screen. It's just like

even you Dante Questions so you're gonna move out of what you can do that view. Yeah. Oh come on What do you do? That would be funny if he got a green screen? Yeah? Iraq is in the chat he says I'll get the jocktober for EDR and you could do a bonus episode yes Iraq my man no, thank you My man no, thank you You don't have to be here for it. No Very much, that's fine This dabble verse scares the shit out of me

Did you guys have a hole on your show is there a woman on the show try to keep everyone in check keep everyone in line All right, this is gonna be fun Thank you, you know what's scary about this whole this down first thing is like Every show I've done so far since I've been on this show, I met a few people that are from there too. Like one guy came up to me and he says to me, I was at the Pell Center in New York, Pennsylvania. He comes to me afterwards. He goes, Hey, yeah, this is a, that was a great show, man.

He goes, better than when I saw you at that potato bar. And then I was like, it was a barbecue restaurant. He goes, yes. So people come up now when they announced my name, I just kind of look around the corner like, is there going to be a potato in there? How many dabblers are going to be in the crowd tonight? I think the key thing about the dabble verse, if you listen to the people that talk about the dabble verse being toxic, it's Stuttering John, Aaron Imholte, the double S being toxic. It's Stuttering John, Aaron Imholte, Gino Bisconti, Chad Zumock. Like they're all people that seem to have thin skin and get triggered by this stuff.

Like if you've got a sense of humor about yourself, you'll be fine. Right. And they're like, I remember with Howard and how the audience participated with Howard. Yeah. But, but this is, this is different. I mean, they would put in like, they have a song contest. But you've got people drawings. I mean, so I mean, just produce songs. I mean, it's just it's amazing. They take the stuff that John says that would make him normally look like an idiot and put it in great song. I can't sing it downtown. Or cross just do it. So I just do it by DJ Dabbles. That's one. Yeah. Yeah. Or cross. Just do it. So I just do it. If I did it, dabble. That's the best one. Yeah, it's great. So Opie is now talking about how New York City sucks, but you

walk around the city. No one's smiling. You know what I mean? My, um, my daughter. We found a wall a couple blocks from here, you know, this is what you have to do when you live in the city. You got to find places where you could where you can play with your kids. And we found a wall and she's getting into volleyball. So we've been doing, we've been making up these games with a volleyball on this wall.

It's becoming our thing. This is how sad living in the city is. This is one of our things. This is insane. I sat and you'll remember producer Chris, when he lost the job on Sirius, I was like, you got to move out of the city. There's no reason to be in Manhattan anymore. You're paying a ridiculous amount of money to live there.

And OP even said, I can't move because I don't want to take my kids out of school and have them lose all their friends. That was seven years ago. That would have been the time. These kids would have all new friends in the suburbs and going to probably a better school and they'd have a yard yeah they might be able to find another wall that's how older is his kids roughly I think teens yeah I think ones entering entered high school and wasn't like middle school that's got gotta be an awful time to have kids that age

in a city like New York. I couldn't fucking imagine. I mean, like, you know, at least if they're small, you can kinda pick them up and whisk them away to where you need them. It's like, now it's like, oh man, you gotta get out of there. Yeah, so he's describing how miserable it is,

him and his daughter to find a wall somewhere to play volleyball. He's not far from Central Park I just want to point that out to where he is the reason why it's an advantageous place in Manhattan is because Central Park's like right a few blocks that way and you could be in a big giant park with all this And I'm not looking at someone else's wallet about this But you mentioned he might have two homes two other homes or anything like yeah He's got a house in the Hamptons on the beach and another place in Philly. Well, yeah, we'll just go, you know, it's like.

But he wants to get his kids to the school where their friends are. I know. It's like, please. Look, when I was a kid in school, this is where the screen gets all wavy. When I was a kid in school, you know, when you left kids growing up, they were gone.

You never knew where they were and everything. There's people I haven't seen since high school or grammar school But now with social media, that's true. It's not like this It's not like hey, it was a great time having you in science class, and then you never see this person again. It's true It's a good point I mean so they're able to do that if they have really good friends They can keep in touch if they're on Long Island. I'm sure the kids would want to go visit them

Oh, he's got all his house. He's got a Wi-Fi Just to point out this miserable Fox first complained is no one's smiling This guy by the way this no one's combing their hair That's like a that's like a that's like a kind of a cartoon network hairstyle there It's just like oh, it's a good way to describe it. He explains what's going on while he's playing this game with his daughter against the wall. People walk by as we're joyous.

We're smiling, we're laughing, we're enjoying the weather, we're enjoying each other. These people walk by over and over again, miserable. we're enjoying the weather, we're enjoying each other. These people walk by over and over again miserable. They can't understand what's going on in in front of their face and that would be happiness.

And they just they scow like almost like how dare you you know have fun in this city. Alright, Can I try to figure out what's actually happening here? They're in the way. I was Annoying people by having fun No one gets annoyed by all get that father and daughter having quality time together fuck those assholes. They're in the way but I Before this just re-emphasize well singing. I was thinking he can't even take joy in having some fun with his daughter. Right.

He's got to point out all these negatives that just emphasize that to me. How are you noticing people are so angry if you're having such a joyous time? Cause they're going to hit the face with the volleyball. Oh man. But yeah, isn't that amazing? He would like something. And Opie never talks about his family life. He never talks about interactions with his kids and stuff.

He finally brings something up that him and his daughter do together. And it's miserable, man. Yeah. Jesus, Opie. Oh, I like that. All right. So then he's like trying to finish up the show. He's like, are there any other chats of people wanting to talk about what's going on this week?

So do you Dante whatever the hell you're trying to do with your stupid comment I don't I don't know if I brag about the view But if I do move I will miss this but I will not miss the fucking people as goddamn city That's a fact All right I'm not. Alright. Let me see. I'm I'm seeing if anything else is in the chat. No, man. None of you guys I uh I love that

the chat that he pulls up is looking for something positive to say is not everyone can land on the waiter on their show though which is obviously insulting to the waiter as it should be. Um so's looking. All right. What else can we talk about? I mean, now the groceries are going up. Uh, shut up loser. Oh my God. I was just called a loser.

Oh, thank you. The hair looks wonderful tonight. Thank. Oh, a little, little bedhead back here. Little bedhead back here. Let's pat that down It's called sarcasm Any couple that he could get here's looking good. Yeah, I know bad. Thanks He did the stuttering John go to the wrong side first as well, which we all do it So Opie is doing the stuttering John thing where he's not putting up with it He is just blocking people if he doesn't like what they're saying in the chat and

All that comes out of our effing pockets. That's what drives us nuts in this city. Not the people Patrick You know what Patrick? I don't like you. You're done. Goodbye Wait, not the people. I don't like you and I like your kind you're gone. All right Yeah, the guy goes oh you don't like New York would he racist or something I just hate the people here I'm not racist. I'm blocking your black ass All right, you ready for more blocking this is upsetting because Dante has been a long time contributor to the show Why did you block Bannister super chat? You need the money to move? I don't need I don't need any money to move Dante and you know what you're gone, too

Barrister's been playing this bullshit game and a turn and he finally showed his head as a as a hater So he's gone just like you goodbye we're not dealing with the garbage we got we got people we you know there's a small amount of people that think this live stream every morning is for them it's not for you it's not for you at all okay all right i'm gonna go now so this whole time he's reprimanding these people he's got a chat up that says oh good morning The pee we give you his trick gum Free chance that he's so stupid just puts up on the screen You know the one thing about him and stuttering John actually would studying John is actually a little bit better about is like this

Guy blocks you went like when he talked about the view that could have been that could have been taken as well What are you gonna do how you gonna brag about how do you not brag about this view it's amazing i pinch myself i would go like well yeah or say what carl said i'm just gonna get me a fake backdrop put it in there he immediately blocks on that yeah we're starting giant you got to see some really really heavy stuff to get him to block you yeah it's got to got a really particular for him to go You got to be one of the broadcasts in greats if you're telling people they shouldn't be watching a show This isn't for you. Yeah constantly. Yeah, you shouldn't be here. This sucks. Yeah the crazy thing is is

This video he only has a few dozen people watching him live this video that he did yesterday morning is up to almost 700 views So the fact that he's telling people not to watch I don't think you're in a place to do that You know you're not at that level or he's like fuck you if you don't like it, then don't watch Jesus opi you're on my level Because I don't it's it's obviously something and it because he really doesn't need to do this No, he doesn't I mean and I think I think for some reason I think He's staying because it seems like it seems like the more success Anthony gets. Oh, yeah He's like no, I got to prove that I'm just as good

So when Anthony gets a thing from ABC WBC radio Which by the way in this day and, for someone to go out and hire people for radio and half the world slicing the hell out of them in radio, that's a huge deal. It is, it's impressive. That's huge that they go, despite what's going on in this world, we need this guy. So I think that that's kind of burning his ass more than anything else. I think so too. Ever since that was announced that he got a job back on radio. Oh, he has lost his mind. It's great

It's been the best thing for W ATP Anthony getting that job. Thank you for doing that and to your point EDR So he doesn't have to be doing this There's really no reason at all It doesn't even come in with things he needs to get off his chest or things He wants to talk about it'd be one thing if he's like, I don't have a lot of viewers But I just I'd need to vent or I want to talk about what's going on in my life or going out in the news Listen to what his plan was for the show today I don't know if we accomplished anything

I literally turned on this camera and I said to myself a holy crap You have nothing to talk about today But it was kind of exciting to try to make it up in front of your eyes And I think we did all right. I'm gonna give myself a passing grade. Yeah Good crowd work unbelievable in that unbelievable. I came here. I had nothing to talk about so I just had to try to make it up No, you just read the chat You just put chats up and then blocked people and as opposed to what other day right? It's not my usual like super prep to well. Yeah yeah well prepared show I only see the clips that you guys

Put on because I watch it's like it's like starting John. I never really watch this show I only watch him through you, and I think the reason why I do that is because You say stuff that I'm thinking when I watch his show with him. I can't yell at it I can't get that out God It's so funny when we like we'll be in Vegas well Vegas we have separate hotel rooms We usually like we go to Boston. We're going to Detroit again this year We'll be in like an Airbnb will all be together and sometimes like one of these guys will be streaming I'll be sitting in a room watching centering John or open or something and we just can't help it

I was just yelling at this It's like when you watch his show straight without you guys. it's like, it's like, you know, it's like not fun. No, it's not a good time. It's like throw the ball. You don't just see the guy open. Very much like that. I tell you how quickly that just went from me going, oh, wow, I'm on the same level as Opie. And then hear that and go, I put way like way too much prep in for the amount of views I get considering he gets that many views for doing this. Well, it's fallen very far, though. You should have way more views than this based on his resume and fan base from the past.

I have one more clip on here. And this is just kind of funny. He's blocking more people first. All right. All right. And wait, wait, wait, wait. All right. Let right. And wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. All right, let me get rid of this person too. At this point, we're just picking you off. You don't even get the glory of saying something shitty on the big screen before we pick you off.

All right, guys, thank you. If you would be so kind, I still got people around me, but they don't really make a lot of money off me. But you know, God bless them for hanging in there. They're like, oh, you know, you should, you know, it's, you need the people to download episodes of the podcast, because that's where you're making your money. And if you're like live streaming on all the platforms every morning, it makes it harder for these people to now go and download an episode of your podcast. So this has to be the conversation he's having with, I don't know, this fake agent he has,

or maybe this new podcast network or something, where they're going, well, you only monetize your show when people download the podcast, then we can place ads in it and If you're doing it on YouTube those people aren't gonna be inclined to download the audio version of it And so Opie's going listen to what Opie strategy is to get around this They're not wrong so if you do me a little favor and subscribe to Opie radio and wrong. So if you do me a little favor and subscribe to OP radio and you know, even if even if you watch this whole thing, download the audio version, just let it play in the background

because my people aren't wrong. Alright. Alright. Uh another guy that's gotta go and no one will ever see your comment. Bitch. Everything he does sounds like it's, it always sounds like it's such a bother. Yes. It, it, it, it, it, what makes him crazy, he's like, uh, uh, uh, you know, he's like a teenage girl.

Right. He's like, oh, everything's a bother to him. I got out of bed for this. Yeah, exactly. Like no one asked you to. And he's like, oh, you know, well guess what, now we're finally getting there even for Jocktober, you son of a bitch.

You know what, let me find out what he is and let me get in there and I'll just message him, go oh yeah, and you know, and have him be on the show and I'll be like oh yeah, I remember, you used to do a radio show with Jock Tober. How you like me now, bitch? Yeah, I think you being on this show is probably gonna make you Persona 9 Grado

or an open radio, unfortunately. I have a question for you, so I'm trying to figure this out too, and I always have, I have a thousand questions for Carl all I'm trying to figure this out too and and I always have I have a thousand questions For Carl all the time, but I I don't want to bother him some of hit me in the middle Yes, I fucking bother and I sent him a text. I feel really bad when I'm down Oh, you can always text me buddy. You know if he's either doing a show or Jumping on his wife one of the other two I'm thinking yeah, but I'll get to you when I'm done jumping But I always so is is Opie considered part of the dab is he dabble verse in my opinion

He is the epitome of the dabble verse okay, so if we had a pecking order would we go? I would go this is me when I would go John yep, I'd go Opie. Okay. I'd go Aaron yep, and then I would probably go a couple of blank spots and then go like John, I'd go Opie, I'd go Aaron, and then I would probably go a couple of blank spots and then go like, who's the guy with? Kevin Brennan. Kevin Brennan. Okay, I don't know how I guessed that.

Kevin Brennan, and then I would go, which by the way, I remember his special from Montreal. It was fantastic. He was a great comic. Great comic, yeah. And then you would go to by the way, I remember his special from Montreal. It was great. He was a great comic great comic Yeah, and then you would go to other people like Who was a guy that he what's they want to fight that had the credit cards that stole the credit chance you mark Okay, so I would go that way. So there's a even in my own head. Why even doing this? I have no idea, but that's my my order. That's my my I'm not gonna disagree with you

I think I think you know that that's like my my top your totem pole Yes, my a people is what it is Let me ask Ozzy guy cuz there is some debate about this and you mentioned that you're in the dabble verse or You know or at least double verse adjacent enough that you're concerned about Eastern time and stuff, so What do you consider to be the devil verse? Some people say it's only stuttering John. It can't be these other characters because the word dabble was about John. What do you think?

Yeah. Well, listening to EDR rattle off all that stuff, I think the dabble part, and I actually have a question for you in a minute about Christyer. But the, the, the, the basis of it was Chrissy Mayer asked John, I saw you dabble in comedy, right? And then he got supremely offended. I think it is kind of that, isn't it? Like it's people are dabbling. They're not, they're not pot committed, I guess. You know what I mean? Yeah. The dabble has grown beyond just that one conversation that Chrissy had with John. And it's become, you know, some people call it the hack verse or the shit verse, but it's like, yeah, these are people who are dabbling in broadcasting people who suck at their jobs.

Yes. Yes. And there's certain things that people should 100% criticize me for. Even though I'm doing a show where I'm criticizing other people, so many things that I get wrong. We're, you know, we're all dabblers. That's the point. Some of us are way better and more experienced than others, but we're all dabblers. We all have our flaws.

You know what I mean? So I look at all that. I want to ask you, Carl, I've always thought everyone's given Christian may a way too much credit that she created the double verse. And I saw it. Yes. And, but I saw a clip today's your question. Yes. Yes. But I saw a clip today where she actually believes it.

And she thinks she's making Opie a thing now. Did you happen to catch that? No, I've not seen that. I know that she's been talking about Opie a bit on her show lately. And she's had Anthony on not that long ago and some other guests. But I believe the quote was, I the double verse and now talking about Opie I'm creating an Opie verse or you know bring an Opie into the double verse something along those lines You gotta promote yourself. I get that you know I wouldn't yeah, I personally wouldn't say that

Consider I didn't invent the devil verse. I personally wouldn't say that but That's funny though. I didn't know that I didn't know that she was spearheading opium about to get on her show or vice versa The friend you know it's funny is like he's both the heart when they suck mother dabble verse if she says it's a John He dabbles in comedy, and he doesn't have that reaction that he has right then we're not even there. Yeah, we wouldn't call it the devil born yet Yeah, we don't have a universe You know cuz really dabble with the dabble verse came from dabblers anonymous right which is a subreddit Which was only born because somebody one of the mods on our subreddit who are these pockets? I've read it got pissed that there were so many clips of John going out there

They're like alright. This is too much John on who are these podcasts? Subreddit's like alright. We'll just start a different subreddit. Just based on John they called it Dad was anonymous and hence The dabble verse here. We are everybody wow we just gave a tutorial to anyone who's like. What is this dabble verse thing there? It is all described Sean the producer was super chatting WTP on Wednesday and he was talking about how, hey have you seen that Opie's got sock accounts and he's on all these forums and doing all this stuff? I said no email me let me know what you're talking about. So apparently there's this channel on YouTube it's at underscore Emily underscore and Emily has these videos where she's showing screenshots and all these things that she claims are OP's SOC accounts and they're on all the

subreddits that cover this stuff but they're also on this ONA forum that I didn't know existed but I think it's the guy from nice podcast stupid who maybe runs this ONA forum to this day. So Emily sent me a direct message. I'm gonna read this to you. And then we can talk about this a little bit. It all started with his Reddit account because no one else on YouTube was talking about it. And then it just got crazier and crazier with him.

Opie kept on mentioning the ONA forum on Reddit. So when he left, I followed him there. I learned some things about Opie in that forum. Like how he wants to blackmail Anthony with the lobster Tapes that's why he wants the archives Iraq would be the only one who has that I also found out Opie used Pat Duffy to threaten people Opie always says he has all this information about Anthony that he's going to expose he admitted in the forum that he has nothing I don't remember all that I found out about him, but everything I learned I put in my

videos I just found out something about him yesterday. He is drinking and I learned that he has a bad mental illness. I know what he has and it's bad. And I think that's why he drinks. He is drinking on his live shows too. He admitted yesterday on YouTube in the comments that he drinks at night. I think he drinks to cope with his mental illness. This is my opinion on his drinking. He needs to get professional help instead of drinking.

He has the money to get help and treatment he needs. This is the only going to end really bad for him if he continues on this path, especially being in the forum all day and talking about himself obsessing over Anthony. She's claiming that he's spending all day on the computer and just defending himself and talking mad shit about Anthony and and Jim Norton I'm gonna show you just a little bit of this video and then we can talk about whether Her theory is correct or not and I'm gonna have to hit mute really quick on this because there's some really annoying music All right, I did it. Whoo

All right, so this is Opie's ready to count. She's claiming this is all on the who are these podcasts subreddit She's claiming that this Jeb Johan is Actually Opie and if you read through these all it is all this stuff where this person's just saying Opie's the best Opie's He calls Anthony Nana. He's like Opie's way better than Nana and and he calls Jim Norton, what does he call Jim on all of these? The worm on all of these. And I'm gonna go to four minutes.

So this goes through, you can see that this is the Anthony Kumia network, that's the Howard Stern subreddit. So this same person is just going on all these different subreddits that are adjacent to Opie and the D dabble verse and defending OPI and all of them and trashing Anthony Kumia and then here is where

This is where Emily's claiming is proof that this is OPI soccer comp because Jeb Johan says Everyone is a fan of me now and autumn pumpkin responds with you just outed yourself as OPI and then they responded every ONA fan who was still around loves seeing me bash Nana so she thinks that's evidence that this is OPI I think it's just the opposite I think it's someone who wants people to think that it's OPI yeah OPI would not be writing these things it wouldn't make any sense for him what do you guys think I think it's kind of scary because it's someone who wants people to think that it's Opie. Yeah. Opie would not be writing these things. It wouldn't make any sense for him. What do you guys think? I think it's kind of scary because it's

like since anybody can say they're anybody. I mean, look how many times when you talk about with John, how many times he's been fooled by people saying they're somebody. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just funny. He's always trying to dox people it's information who they are Yeah, so I think I think they might be this in the same situation

I don't know how bad off Opie is if she's exactly right on what did she's saying there? But yeah, I think it you know, I wouldn't put past the sock counts, but I don't think that's him there so this is the same account in this ONA forum Jeb John or Je or Jeb Joe, I guess it is, in this one. And again, just posting all of these different posts in here, talking about Anthony and making fun of various people. Then she's claiming that this Long Island Clan

is another sock account that he uses in this forum. And then that's also connected to a YouTube sock account that's Long Island Clan, at sock account. That's long island clan Li at Li clan on YouTube that has nine subscribers and then She's showing Anthony's all on Twitter is garbage human and there's Anthony agreeing with garbage human on something so I Was I spent an hour on this today? I wasn't sure how I was gonna present this

because I read the note from Emily, I read the note from Sean, the producer, and I went, oh, this is really interesting if Obie's got a sock account and spends all day online defending himself and she's claiming that the family's left him and all this stuff. I think that she's falling for this. I think so too.

I mean, that's a lot. Some of that would have shown through, I think, in the way he's actually doing his show. Yeah, especially the family part, you know Well, she claims she's like if he doesn't sleep at nighttime I message him at 4 a.m. His time and he writes me right back. I'm like, well, that's more evidence. Probably not open. Yeah I said we put What oh, yeah, it could be you actually are you I said we put card. Oh yeah. It could be you actually. Are you a 4pm or something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't present that really well, but what's your take on that Ozzy guy? Do you think that could be when you set it up saying, you know, like when you think about it, he does a show, he needs the chat. He never has anything interesting to talk about that he's been up to. It does speak to the fact that he's online all day and reading these conversations, but then when it gets called out and then it doubles down, it's kind of like, well, all right, it might be the move to try and not out it as a soccer account, but it does kind of feel like someone trolling. Well, I was they covered this on El

Veribé show this morning and I heard Cardiff saying when I Started off as Cardiff electric on Twitter and in the subreddits I was trying to convince people that was John sock account because Carter would go in there and defend John talk about great He is a good list his credits and all the stuff that John would say and then people like oh This is John sock account so it's like people do this to troll trolls You know I had a parody I had a parody account at one point a while back But like for me it became like a character. That's like you're talking as that Character right I don't think I'd ever slip up on it because it's something

It's a completely different thing if you know what I mean, but if you do accidentally cross streams cross accounts Yeah, there's always every chance that you might post something that's for a different account thing if you know what I mean but if you do accidentally cross streams cross accounts yeah there's always every chance that you might post something that's for a different account but that didn't seem like that it didn't you know what I mean like it's not like Chad got busted with a sock account because he was logged into his chat account and responding like it was his alt account is you know what I mean so it's like people people get busted, they slip up doing this kind of thing all the time. Yeah. Ozzy guy, I want to thank you for stopping by and for giving us your blind mic story.

That was actually very intriguing. When I saw you just sent five clips, I'm like, what is this going to be? I have no idea, but that's amazing. No, look, I hope you enjoyed it. Look, I didn't want to come across like I honestly didn't want that to come across as me being a bitch. I fucking love blind mine. I know you don't. I didn't take it. I didn't take offense to it. It was not malicious in any way. And I know it wasn't malicious. But just, you know, when he's spouting off is what you're saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But when he's like, digs at you digs at Craig Casey, all that shit is like, well, you know, I do have something here where you're a bit of a dick. So I Absolutely love by Mike and there's no no offense was taken Mike I know it wasn't malicious people could check out the United States of Australia Sunday mornings 930 Eastern in the morning Yes Except this week, we actually just did it earlier because I didn't want to do two nights with broken sleep. I was like,

let's have one night where you don't sleep very much and then catch up the next night. So we went live earlier today. We talked a lot about Keanu and the allegations that, well, you know, I won't, I won't sell you or show with it. Okay. But the allegations that there's things going on in the New York comedy scene that, uh, you know, anyway, I won't, I won't do that. We'll check out, uh, United States of Australia. And are you also a host of towing the lie?

Yes. Uh, we just did our third episode this week. You guys talked about this little piggy. Aaron got sent a clip, which was fun. I do find it amusing that Aaron clearly is embarrassed by what happened on his show and he needs to keep trying to convince people. Like I don't, I don't care. People tell me that I won that situation. That doesn't mean anything to me. Like it was just a thing. So every time Aaron brings me up, I'm like, cool dude, keep doing it. That's great.

Keep reminding everybody of me. So that was great. Towing the lies, obviously triggering him. So check that out, uh, on, well, we're going to start rotating channels, uh, but pretty anti-social myself and echo pineapple do that. I do what's your handle with echo pineapple also to look back on the Ricky Gervais show. So go subscribe to echo and yeah, United States of Australia next week,

back to every Sunday. Although I might have a bonus show with Adam Bush coming up. Oh, yes. Uh, we do everyone's show. Yes. We talked about the time zone issues and, uh, organizing, um, with a diva on the west coast is very difficult. So, but we're thinking settling on a Monday night sometime soon. So for look, look for a bonus show on that. Thank you very much, Carl.

Thanks. I appreciate you giving me the time. The great Aussie guy, everyone. That's amazing. Well, there's another show I can listen to. That's one way when I came up from From my house here was like four and a half hours. Mm-hmm And usually you're like, what are you gonna listen to cuz you can only listen so much music Yeah, but um, so I'm going through all these podcasts I can add him to the list now of people that yeah, they do a good job at United States of Australia

This this world just keeps expanding this universe United States of Australia this this world just keeps expanding this universe It's crazy. I tried to explain to other people. It's like a twilight zone exists They're you're trying to tell them what's going on and like you know sure it's going on and I I mean I love it I love all of it. We love that you're part of it We got potatoes and we got grown men. No, I didn't fight each other in the street Grown I don't know Mike Geary's probably the youngest of all me maybe Dean. I don't know but yeah Mike I think I might be the oldest it's crazy. Well, you got dr. Steve. Dr. Steve's got you beat How does dr. Steve I don't want to say oh my no, okay

I don't want I don't want to say how old dr. Steve is but I'm older than than starting John easily Yes, you're older than stuttering John. I don't know that you're older than Kevin Brennan Anthony, maybe you're probably around the same age right my crazy. I'll tell you my age. I don't care. Yeah, 60. I'm 64 That's amazing. So you look fantastic. I'm completely gray on the inside That's amazing. So you look fantastic. I'm completely gray on the inside It's a devil verse that keeps me young No, it's funny because I watch and I think that's what I find it amazing that like you look at a guy starting down He's like he's like 60 and he he wants to fight people or claims to fight people and it's it's and it's just one of these things where it's like

He go nobody nobody's fighting anybody no no one's fighting anybody no isn't shaped to fight anybody there's not a place in the world that would sanction that fight correct Rocky tried to fight what was it and Rocky what was it Balboa when he tried to sanction that fight he had a hard time and he did it for a living right it would be like they remember bum fights was big. Oh, yeah Yeah, if we could do something like that with the dabble verse where we just have Chad Zuback and John fight each other Foxy boxing thing

With the big things like that. I mean yeah, I think I think we should try that I think the next time you have your uh, you know, you're out and doing dabble con or something we get a couple of bouts around there alright now you're in so We got thank you all for being here. We got some internet news than your voicemails on the other side and We'll start with the internet news From Spotify Chris Fike proclaims Jake Hudson sucks quad rules Joey Cornelius counters with having an opinion on Jake or quad is a sign you are too involved loser from patreon sleep near rights thank goodness you guys roasted MGA's retarded ass for wasting his time his friends time the show's, and the entire audience's time with his absolute failure of an event, and not due to any act of God or even minor misfortune. Just because he was too cheap and stupid to shell out 50 bucks after all that effort. Bman33 takes it further.

MGA fucking sucks ass. This is even worse than Clearwater Chad. What a total boob. Blart Simpson. God damn, MGA. Why didn't you just send the 50 bucks? What a bust. Jeremy Spoke Speaks.

In honor of Shuli striking Mentor Math's channel, which is an act of violence, I suggest you next review TSN. Let's see if Shuli can handle a little constructive criticism from you, the Zing King, and the Throat Goat. Not Lucy, Adam Bush. Sean the Producer.

So, Opie doesn't own a comb because of trauma that his mother put he and his siblings through 50 years ago, but he's been going to therapy for years and is working on improving himself? Got it. And the main reason Opie won't go on Anthony or anyone else's shows is because he wouldn't be in control of the situation. He needs to be able to steer the conversation in the direction that makes himself look the best. And he knows that when he can't

do that, he looks like the fool that he's become. Deluxe gushes, Opie and KB bitterness is so entertaining. Go old K-Dog C-Money and Ms. Fox. Dame Taft shares, love the Opie coverage. Kudos to the opester for filling the stuttering John void beautifully. Johnny Mars is into the whole brevity thing with SCOOL! Shane McGow demands, stick with the script today. From Reddit, random 14330 opines. Adam Bush's intellectual take on the dumpster verse is awesome. MC Gray concurs. Absolutely. He says the things I wish I could have concisely said, or thought of. Butter08. He seems pretty fantastic no matter his sexual orientation. I couldn't care less.

Longiron6 reacts, he's gay? I'm genuinely surprised. Spear of the Celts clarifies, no, he has a wife. But he is an actor, and that's very gay. Quietsoft adds, his long-winded fagginess coupled with the occasional smug attitude turned me off at first. But I have to admit he's revitalized the show. Okay objective.

Adam is cool. Even for a gay Jew. He's smart and has good takes. I don't think Carl is phoning it in. That guy puts a lot of effort into everything he does. And from YouTube, CoolhandShadow points out, Scorch has more class than Opie by at least thanking Ant for mentioning him and getting him views.

Nolan Bearden. It just seems really cool that Anthony seems to genuinely like this guy say what you want about scorch But you can't say he's openly bitter or a quitter Hope it works out for him and Ryan Gannon plays us out with Opie is a wealthy lady die Lot of chatter on the internet. Oh my goodness a lot of talk going on that sucks. I wanted my Podcast last name to be tight box Well, I mean you can be mister. It's you married lady or anything like that. She's not she's single lady That's that's that's too much girl

I don't mean just be rude, but whoever's up hitting that should get a parade in this town every night at six o'clock big parade just stop I don't mean just be rude, but whoever's up hitting that should get a parade in this town every night at six o'clock. Big parade. They just stop, they drive this guy by in a float and he's just waving. See you tomorrow night at six. All right, let's hit some, we know your type now, E.D., all right, it's good to know. Yeah, white.

She's more than just a white check. No I mean she's yeah she's a how'd you end up meeting how'd she end up meeting her? She her boyfriend was in our band running lights which was producer Chris's doing. And then he freaked out before a show and couldn't do it so she filled in for him she was running our lights she was our light girl then she transitioned to one of our go-go dancers and She started doing the net news So she doesn't she didn't do any news or like a radio or anything before no no wow we had Correspondent that broad doing the news right she was smart enough to dump me and

So I reached out to the closest girl around yeah Like a lazy man does yep, that's next yeah But it's funny the progression of knowing Lucy. She was so shy. Oh, yeah She was so she gets so nervous about even just running our light show and stuff It was it was crazy like what she'd go through and now she's got her own YouTube channel She's putting herself out there. She's got everyone shows She's really it must be medication or something. I can't imagine not enough medication Let's listen to some voicemails. Then we'll get out of here boner guy calling in

Go bills I'm just calling to congratulate you on another fabulous bonus episode last week's Living in the Past with Stuttering John. In particular, the roast appearance on the Howard Thurman roast covered at the end. Oh my fucking God. John pulling out framed diplomas and just having nothing to say. That really should have just shut the door on him ever appearing in entertainment media ever again.

How he can have nothing is just incredible. And I would love to see some of that Kareem Al-Jabbar roast, which apparently he was the head writer for. What the fuck could that possibly have on it? He's got nothing! What a fucking idiot. Anyway, that's it. Oh, Chris, you're pretty cool, man. Don't come to school on Monday Thank you do vote for Carl at the creep off calm Yes vote for Carl the creep off comm that bonus show was a lot of fun Patreon comm slash who are these podcasts to get the the bonus shows that the advantage of patreon is you get all the links to?

The videos you can watch them But if you're like EDR and myself and you prefer to listen to shows Then you get the mp3s in an RSS feed right to your podcast player To listen to all the bonus content that we put out and there's a lot It's more than just the two bonus shows every appearance I do on the Drew Lane show Anytime I'm hosting point devil point or this little piggy all of that audio goes on the patreon feed Hey Carl hosting Point Devil Point or This Little Piggy. All of that audio goes on the Patreon feed. Hey Carl,

can you, I guess Chris, tell me who's the better musician? This Billie Eilish eyelash person or Angel Dustin Hoffman? Can you provide recommendations? Maybe play some on the next of each on the next show. All right, can you provide recommendations? Maybe play some on the next of each on the next show. All right, thank you, fuck you, bye. Angel Dustin Hoffman is by far the superior musician compared to Billie Eilish, I don't know.

I was in Angel Dustin Hoffman, so I might be biased. And producer Chris has never heard of Billie Eilish. That is correct. He's not gonna be on the show. You saw my eyes glaze over. How do you feel about Billie Eilish. That is correct. He's not gonna be on the show. You saw my eyes glaze over. How do you feel about Billie Eilish? Well, when I was doing radio, we used to have an intern that looked exactly like her.

Okay. And then they would do these- Big tits. Was I? Like real big tits. She looked good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She looked really good and she looked exactly like her. And one time they had a, one of the, where these artists come to the station and do this noontime thing,

and they invite listeners in and her job was to lead this singer into the room. So she walked in the room first and everyone thought it was her and they're like, ah, that's hilarious. Behind her, some guy with a cowboy hat. They went, who's that guy? No, that's the guy you're here to see. That's awesome.

It's funny. Hey, Carl, get one mic on more. He's good. Hey Carl, get, uh, keep one mic on more. He's, he's, he's good. And, uh, how about Dave Landau? He's been on drone mic lately and he's fucking hysterical. Also, I think he's a guy on the show. He's great. And then could you like post a picture of what Gary and Sandy Ayo looks like? I could, I kind of picture Milton from office space, but I kind of get some John Wayne Gacy nights following too. So Come on read it. No, I'll take a look. Thanks. All right, he did send me a photo of him

I don't know if he wants it out there or not. I can ask him He looks exactly how you think he would look is the answer to that What was the other thing that that that color just brought up? More blind Mike. Oh Dave Landau. I will be on Dave Landau's show, Normal World, on May 27th, 28th? Whatever that Tuesday is after Memorial Day. Oh yeah, you're gonna be in studio with him. I'm gonna be flying to Dallas.

Yeah. Look at that. I'll be on his show, and then I'll be on Alex Stein's show the next day. So, look for that. I'll be plugging that more, leading up to it. I to get a nice bump for their view count when I'm on Call you when you're at hackamania, you need to give Vito a hug or something. Nope He's clearly emotionally distressed get Adam Bush to give him a hug Adam Bush seems lovely and clearly he needs it because the

Bush seems lovely and clearly he needs it because that freak out over the Riley stuff, like the new Riley freak out. Oh boy. Yep. I'm lost for words at how emotionally damaged Vito Giswoldi is. I just want him to be funny, because he is funny. I think you agree with me that he's funny. He was so just give him a hug Maybe a little smooch And yeah, maybe what's cuties together

Call me back. I'm very annoyed with veto with his behavior on all this and the problem with him is that he doesn't fucking learn anything Oh this text exchange. I had with him the other day. It's so annoying. But maybe I'll get a chance to talk to him in Vegas. He won't learn. It doesn't matter. It'll be a waste of my time. Go Bills.

Just a very quick note, counterpoint to the point, well, one of the points you guys made in the OP segment of episode 617 where you were saying oh we don't wish harm on OP we don't want him to fail well I do I actually do I'd love to see him fail I do wish quite serious harm on him I find him to just be a completely intolerable bellend with Chinese eyes and a shit haircut and the way that he got his fame is despicable he's a fully despicable man the acts he's done over the years I also find to be despicable even though I've only heard about them secondhand through a W ATP and yeah I

will revel in his downfall there you go probably says more about me than him which is also probably why I always vote for Carl at the creep off calm, but boner guy He's the reason why you have your name. Are you a boner guy? That's where your name came from You're that upset with Opie We wish the best for the Obstler If John was smart, he would have named this whole campaign against truly truly knows You know like knows Yeah Julie Julie knows you know like knows yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah with Moolah, that cow's making some Moolah, more Moolah than the Looza, come on, get better man.

Okay, bye. That is a better line. Cowboy Darker was bragging about getting a paid acting gig, so he's doing better than John does with acting. Moolah. Ronnie and Syracuse callin' it. Hey Carl, Ronnie and Syracuse, Love you, love the show. Listening to the latest Living in the Past episode brought back John's run for Senate in California. And it was interesting because can you imagine if John actually ran for office the smear campaign from the opposition? John Melendez thought he was a Jew boy, thought he was a coon or whatever it is.

I know I screwed it up. Do do do do up, do do up can you imagine this guy used to call people porch monkeys? Don't vote for John. He's a bad guy. Don't call me back. I've John ran for office somewhere. I'd run against them That'd be so fun. I would just love making the commercial It's funky it's like if if you You run you you almost have to have some dirt on you because it makes you look kind of normal. That's true.

But his dirt is like, I mean, it's just. Salacious. Yeah. It might be too much to overcome. You know, they get on Trump for his speeches and some of the says that he said, you'd be able to take stuff away from every speech that John even said. Oh, yeah said you'd be able to take stuff away from every speech that that John even said Oh, yeah, it would be it'd be hilarious a

Couple more here. This is D locks people are very confused about this Shiloh Hendrix This is an incident that happened everyone's talking about Where she was yelling at some five-year-old black kid on the playground and calling him the n-word mm-hmm Carl D locks obviously I've always kind of had a little crushy who? yelling at some five-year-old black kid on the playground and calling him the N-word? Mm-hmm. Carl Deluxe, obviously. I've always kind of had a little crushy poo on Lucy Titebox, but I've got a new girl in Rochester. I'm in with Shiloh Hendrix. I don't know if you've heard of her.

Look at my maker, my sugar mama, move her out to Newport Beach, set her up. She's just, she seems like a wonderful person. All right, I don't think that's true. Well, it does prove something though This is what it proves it proves it and this is why women need to understand this If I were a woman, this is going to sound really but I was a woman my first priority would be as fucking hot as I possibly can be. I would be as hot as, because despite what you wanna think, that's what people see first. Correct. Okay? Whereas you're a guy, a guy's not born with value.

A guy has to earn value. That's why. I obviously have a lot of priorities before being hot. You could tell. Exactly, so that's why your guy, when he's like 40 or something, he can pick up the younger girl, even 50, or even what the football guy, crack.

Well, Bill Belichick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bill Belichick picks up, you know, that, I mean. She, I would not want to date that bitch, wow. What an annoying scene, but yeah. It's a lot of work. Yeah, it's a lot of work. A guy like that, you know,

well she's just gonna take you for your money. He's like, who gives a shit? I got more money. Right, right. And Yeah, a guy like that, you know, well she's just gonna take you for your money. He's like, who gives a shit? I got more money. Right. Right. And there's another girl like that, that's down the street. But this woman here with the N-word and stuff, that's how hot you can be.

You're hot enough when they don't even care what you say. She is pretty hot. I might let her call me the N-word. Oh, all right. He's got a kink. Have you heard about this story, Chris? No. She was caught on video All right, he's got a kink have you have you heard about this story Chris no no man she was caught on video calling this little kid on the playground this word and

She started up like this go send me go or something like that. She's raised like $200,000. Yeah It's crazy Okay, like let's get this woman some money Playground across to my house. I was do this. Well, it was funny. But here's the thing that I find really sad about it. First of all, she was yelling at a kid. Second of all, she was holding a kid. Yeah, that's horrible.

Holding her kid. And then she's asking for money so she can relocate. Right. And the reason why this is getting brought up here is because she lives in Rochester, Minnesota. And every one of my voicemails is just like, hey, Carl, do you know that girl you friends in there all the shit and even on B Dablin live this morning they were

going yeah she's from Rochester you know those Rochester people I'm at the check on Minnesota yeah listen Rochester Minnesota it gets no love at all every time I hear Rochester I don't think about Minnesota I definitely I definitely think the Rochester Michigan as well yeah Yeah. What yeah, but it's funny It's just it's sad of the situation of it, but you know people wanted around the show. Yeah Kick you off today Listen I don't want to have on a show but at least kick off a white person don't go Take off a black guy to bring on the n-word ladies

Fact you can have this on at about time well that would be funnier. Yeah, bring her down Alright couple more real quick Yeah, who knew there's Rochester, Minnesota next you're gonna tell me there's more than one Springfield. All right. This is a last voicemail prediction for Eric Griffin Dude next week Eric Griffin's gonna have to tell a story about how his 15 months old Press the only fans button on the remote and he had to get on Get off call customer support at 3 in the morning after his wife found out. I love it. I see what you're doing there.

It's using that as an excuse. I tell you, that's, you know, I, that's the one thing where I kind of have a personal line like when people's, people's kids are involved, like the inward lady and even like Erica Finn and stuff. When I don't want to, I don't want to know your kids. I don't, I don don't wanna know your kids. I don't wanna see your kids. But when I see people with children, it actually, in my mind, it gives them a soul.

It gives them life. It's like, oh, okay, that's that person. Like even John has kids. They don't talk to him. But there was a time. There was a time when he was a father. Yeah, there was a time where they were like, they honestly were able to go, that's a time where they were like, you know, they honestly were able to go that's that's my dad

You know at some point before it became to who you know, yeah sad so on that note, I Gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go go a plane is hit I rewatch a Carly okay guess what? The episode's over!