Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep619 - Stuttering John, KarmicX, Steel Toe, BYB Podcast

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

We start off with a nice clip of Jim Norton giving us some props. Then it’s right into a new character who has emerged onto the scene in the Dabbleverse - Karmic. He’s going on everyone’s shows and doing six hour long drunken livestreams. Is he a genius, is he a trainwreck, is he long for this world? Adam Busch is on to discuss Steel Toe’s latest attempt to get viewers; a plan that quickly backfires on him. Adam was also checking out Quadfather’s BYB podcast where he gets twisted in knots trying to figure out why he hates Shuli and me. Jake Hudson reveals his favorite porn category to Ava Raiza. Stuttering John drops more names than you can shake a stick at while trying to impress the host of Primal Scream. And finally Cardiff joins as we wrap it up with another round of “2 Minutes with Tom” and your voicemails. Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Stream Hackamania May 9-11 in Las Vegas with promo code WATP – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We'll be talking about Quadfather on BYB being a total hypocrite. And I'm just going to break that down for us. We'll be talking about the biggest drunk in the dabble verse. There's a new one who's coming in. We'll be talking about Aaron Immelt's newest addition to the Sealtow Morning Show. We'll learn about Jake Hudson's preferred porn category. We'll watch John drop more names you can shake a stick at. We have another two minutes with Tom coming up from Cardiff. But first, Jim Norton gives a nice shout out recently on his show with his wife Nikki. And I wanted to show that because we always appreciate it when Jim Norton who were a big fan of over here Recognizes talent, you know talent recognizing talent. That's what I like to refer to this as and so unique actually

Pulled the clip on this one Oh, I'm not a guy who like too much of podcasting and interacting online is people digging into each other's shit. Let me see what he said about me. But I just don't give a fuck. And there's so much of it going on on so many different levels from so many different people. I think all of it is incredibly lazy and boring because it's so, just let me see what he said

then I'll remark and then he'll say something on his podcast. And there's very few guys that do it well. There's a few guys that are really good at that, who are these podcasts, there's a few other guys that are good broadcasters and get into things and keep it really interesting. But the majority of it is a bunch of people

who are just basically wanna just kinda turn on a computer and have nothing to talk about other than what someone else is saying about them. I just find that incredibly boring. And we did it on the radio for years. I agree with everything you just said. You nailed it, Jim.

Perfect assessment. And I was watching Louis J. Gomez. I tried to find the clip of him talking about the devil verse. And you know, big J is really into the devil verse. He's also on We Just Gangs with Louis. And Lewis is just talking about how boring it is the devil verse sucks And oh what are guys just talking about other guys we talk about girls, too In fact my team with the dick show we go after a lot of fat women on those episodes So it's not just men talking about other men. Yeah, so he might have a point. He might have a point

It's a little bit hypocritical of Lewis J. Gomez to say that that's not good content, ripping out other podcasters. I remember Louis leaving me a voicemail many years ago and saying, how come you haven't covered Real Ass Podcasts, you pussy? You won't even cover our show. So we did. And then he played clips of us covering his show and then I saved my girlfriend I believe live in studio that episodes been taken down since that turn he also docks me also zoomed in on my house none of it was real none of it was really was joking was it was how much you can't tell in this world I don't know what enough this is back when people had a good sense of humor about

things that do how to just be fun about it, but I respect Louis J. Gomez. I was a little disappointed He's doing some new show where he just kind of chats now. He just hangs out in chats, which is very 2018 Kind of it's been done before but I think the double verse to people like that are a bit It's a bit like the Grateful Dead like it's hard to explain There's so much different kinds of music and you can catch good days and bad days. If somebody hears something, it might not be representative of that thing that you like.

So it's hard to explain it. But what I loved most about that Jim Norton clip was the chemistry between him and Nicky. That is palpable. I like that Nicky just gets out of the way. Let the professional broadcaster take care of this. That's Well done by Nikki Alright, I want to introduce the W ATP audience to a new character

Who sprung into the dabble verse and you can't miss him? He's all over the place He's especially on misery loves company. I've seen him on there a bunch of times he's one of Kevin Brennan's new guys that he brings on regularly and There is a reason why I'm presenting him. Okay, there is a payoff to this So we're gonna we're gonna watch some clips. You promise do you promise? Oh, I promise Adam. Okay, when do I ever let you down? Seven examples, okay you down. Give me some examples. Okay. I can think of one from Australia, but we're not even gonna. Alright, fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, I want to start off with, so this guy, his name is Karmic. It's Karmic X on YouTube. And I want to start off, the other day he

was podcasting, he was a little bit wasted. And he was kind of feeling the feels and going through it on this episode. I think this works in my head around shit. This shit that never ends. You know what I mean? The shit in your head. I wish I could just push that shit to the side, but it seems to just come all out at the same time when I drink. I'm just trying to wrap my hand around it, folks. I'm just trying to make sense of it so I can understand it myself. This is coming from a guy anyway

I'm in a bad place I can lie I can tell mentally yeah with the booze lately yeah yeah I was always up this guy was that's too bad are you familiar with that karmic have you seen him around at all no and I have a couple questions okay please so this is on sync and a male is when this broadcast took place it was almost six hours long. We're about three and a half hours in on this. Okay, so is this is this what he has to offer? Or did he used to do something else? And now it's just kind of devolved into this. All right, great question. So this guy, as he will tell you, was in corporate America for a long time. He was long time. He was recently let go from his position in logistics. And so he's also a DJ, like a wedding DJ kind of DJ. So that's what he does for work. But he was a chatter

and he was really a big fan of MLC. And he decided to like, What if I turn on my webcam, I started becoming a guy. So he's now throwing his head into the ring. He's got his YouTube channels almost 6,000 subscribers He's up to he's trying to get his watch hours up so he can start monetizing this and this is kind of his goal Now is to become a guy in the devil verse Start making a name for himself. It does a lot of AI stuff So that music you're hearing is I think AI music that he created he does AI videos and images and stuff It's got a cool jacket

Cool jacket it works well with the green screen does I? Learned recently that you have to have a side if you're in the dabble verse so I was curious what his side was So we're gonna find that out okay. We are gonna find that out But first I want to watch a little bit more of this drunk stream So we just get a sense of his personality and what he's going through. Because you know, he's saying right there, it's not going great, which I could have told you, but I'm glad that he understands that. My name is Carmich.

Come here, kitty. Come here. Come here, kitty. Sorry, I couldn't focus on chats in the last hour or two. Uhhh... He's just a never-ending shitstorm. Every fucking way I look. He's trying to quantify it.

Trying to understand the piece of shit behind it and yeah... It's like yeah At the end of the day evil and good just exist Come here. So this is getting deep You could tell there's a lot of thoughts running through his head He's not sure how to reconcile all these things that he's thinking he's up in his feels. I Feel for him when I watch something like this. I'm like, but you got to turn your camera off buddy. What are you doing? and I feel for him when I watch something like this. I'm like, would you get to turn your camera off buddy? What are you doing? and

He's also been leaving this stuff up because he watches watch hours coming up. So this is just still up live Which is what I'm just watching this live right here on YouTube something like this. I think you'd someone would take down, right? Now the people that chat him are they like supportive do they like it? What are they saying? What are those 6,000 subscribers looking for? There's a mix there's there's certainly a mix as there is with anyone sure, you know and He's got some more philosophy that he wants to drop on us Just remember it doesn't matter how good you treat people Apache Melton will come out of the woodwork and Fuck with you.

Doesn't matter how good you are, folks. Just remember that. Just remember that. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Because big boy with his big belly wants to put his weight out there for the rest of the world to smell and see. And he looks at people like me with a certain amount of disdain. He needed other boys to fill him with confidence. I didn't need anybody. That's a fact Patrick Milton. That's just a fact man, and you know it in your heart of hearts You need all your boyfriends to

Elbow you that you are a good man. I Don't like men on that level Patrick okay, so he's got a thing with Patrick melted as you can just find out there And I'm the reason why I wanted to bring you in cold on this is because everyone loves your psychoanalysis And I'm curious that we watched three clips now any thoughts and what we're seeing here So far without knowing what his issue is with Patrick Melted and only that he was a fan of MLC When people are really good at something it MLC. When people are really good at something, it looks easy. And when people are really bad at something, it also

looks easy. People, I can understand somebody watching a lot of KB and going, why aren't I doing this? Especially if they're drunk, because he is not offering anything that requires any level of skill, talent, or even like, you know, manners, decorum, anything. He just is begging like a, even a busker has a song. KB's just begging for money and getting mad at people who don't give him money and entertaining the people that do. And this guy reminds me of a lot of the real drunk homeless people you'd see in New York.

In New York it's different than other cities. In New York if you listen, if you're like sitting somewhere and there's someone yelling to themselves continuously, about every five or seven minutes they'll land on something. And you're like wow, that was amazing. And then it's back to just chaos. Yeah, babble, absolute babble. But every couple minutes,

they land on something. And this guy reminds me of like, OJ's drunken older brother, who went too far. And younger stoner OJ is trying to get him to like, open the door and come out and he won't do it. And OJ's, you know, too sweet and soft as a fruit. And this guy's too drunk and hard as a corporate guy and together they'll you know it's like deer hunter together they'd make the perfect guy I like that analysis of the the homeless guy the guy who you know it's one flew over the cuckoo's nest he's just not all there and he's got a substance problem and it's bothering him. Well, fortunately he has friends

Nick rickada joins the show as well as this guy named stealth chaos And so they're watching the stream and they're like, hey send us the link, you know We'll come on and help you out here. But go ahead there neck. Well, he's got a question man How do you think your streams going tonight? Tonight is a little wishy-washy so far tonight. Tonight is a little wishy washy so far. He's on fire Nick. I can tell he's lit up dude. It's a weird dynamic. It's a weird dynamic to bring this out. I am I came from the first time to do it. I came to the corporate world so I'm like how am I supposed to be a human being again? That's how I'm looking at the stream world personally. So how are you a human being before the corporate world? Um, very not likely just simply because they had a ethos a

mindset they wanted me to, you know, inject in my own being if that makes any sense. It doesn't. I have no idea what you're talking about. I'd love for him to like watch this back the next morning, and try to figure out what he's saying or what he what point he thinks he's trying to make here. He's a smart guy. He clearly like, I bet if he hold on a second, based on what he so far he's made zero sense

on anything He's blasted in front of his webcam and your takeaway is he's a smart guy Well, I'll tell you something please said that thing like how's your show going? Yeah, left the same way we did and no one else in the dabble verse would do that Chad would turn on him John's face would drop Wishi washi Chad would turn on him John's face would drop Yeah, and he's being honest he's at least self-aware like he's having these feelings he's expressing them poorly This is we talk about everyone in the dabble verse or the greats having lost their dream job, right? this guy just had it happen, so here he is coping on the dabble verse and

I don't know for some reason I listened to like a half hour of his rant that doom posted earlier I just listened and every couple minutes. I was like you know he's right He is right okay I'm looking for do an example of that the clip I need to and the point it out so far I see at least a human being suffering I don't see a monster or a villain yet okay so so Nick well that's good you are the villain spotter of this show so that's good to hear so Nick Reketa of course has gone through his own troubles with being a little too

effed up on the live stream so Nick recognizes this and he goes dude I know leads to. It's not great. How many kids do you want to keep? Because I'm just going to you know right now is not a good move. It's only a matter of time, but it's only a matter of time. It always is. Maybe two hours. You're gonna make two more hours? I hope, I hope, but I have pushed beyond the boundaries of two hours when I said that. Yeah, man, you're doing superhuman work here. I'm definitely making an opportunity. Go ahead, self. Sorry, man. This the schedule is two more hours of this stream. He's on EV mox or whatever it's called. So two hours of this stream, then he's going to take a break. And then he's going to do another six hours. So if you're around, it's six hours time, please come back on.

So the plan is to continue on for another eight hours of doing this. I just like, Nick's just like, you should probably have a conversation with the mattress at this point. If you're gonna just be rambling like this, just get in the privacy of your bedroom and spare yourself a little bit. But he does not take that advice.

As you can see on the screen here, this is four hours and 11 minutes into a five hour and 56 minute long live stream. So, all right, we see him when he's probably at his worst. I don't want to, you know, judge someone at their worst, obviously. So let's let's go to the next day. And, you know, guys, a little more sober and ready to do it. Let's see if he's making more sense when he's not drinking.

It's weird. It is weird to me, honestly, the amount of forefrontness that I have going on in my stream. I understand most people don't find an entertaining, but I do that forefrontness. Just what it looks at people weird. You know what I mean? It looked at Patrick Melton very weird the forefrontness Mm-hmm. Yes. See you're you you can't handle it He said it twice out there. I'll be like what am I talking about forefront?

That's the fuck is that does that mean anything to you Adam? No, okay. It's a replacement word for alcoholism Okay, that might be that might be right what he meant, but you hear right there, he's got Patrick Melton on his mind. So this seems to be a feud that's going on between him and Patty Malt. And he explains, as we've seen others do before to Patrick Melton that watch out man, because you don't want to come at me. If you need another person from Minnesota to make fun of, make fun. Get your thousands of views, man. But your viewers will see me for the reality of the world.

And I'm just telling you, Melton, if you put a spotlight on me, you will lose viewers You will because they are gonna look at you and compare you to me So you best not show me on a weird creepy level You best not show me at all really He was almost out of something if you want clips of me you will lose viewers I was like alright. Yeah, this is making sense Oh because they're gonna see how cool you are and back I actually agree with the lunatic who's high and drunk way more than Patrick Melton who's presenting this well

What is the history between him and Melton what happened here? Okay, so? apparently, you know because this guy was on MLC a few times, and KB and Patrick Melton have had their falling out. And so you were talking earlier about, if you know anything about the Devilverse, everyone's got their side that they're on. So Patrick Melton's on one side, and he's on Team KB. OK. And Patrick Melton has been pulling clips of this guy lately and showing them on the show.

So he's taking notice of that and letting him know why he thinks he's doing that. I'm filling the spaces that Patrick Melton doesn't understand. Okay. And he looks at me and he's scared. Unfortunately, it's a truth. I see through. I see through everybody. I know your intentions. I know your mindset. When you experience that enough, you kind of jump over the proverbial cliff if you will it's amazing how he says nothing he makes zero sense he's using words he's forming sentences there's a lot of things there I use this analogy a lot I was a space alien and I came in here and you said this is a podcast you're like

yeah is that Joe Rogan or this seems like someone who's podcasting but then if you actually understood the language and you understood what he was saying you'd go Oh, no, this is just a lunatic who's has no idea what they're talking about. It's probably lost their mind again I have a reason why we're now we're analyzing this guy. I meant to tell you there is a payoff to this I'm telling you that I hope so Unfortunately, I have a soft spot for people like this like I can see that He's definitely dangerous and and and wildly untalented and shouldn't be filming his demise. But when it comes to older people, like senior citizens like Harrison Young,

I have a hard time. I just forgive really unnecessarily. And with him, I see. What about that reality show? How do you feel about Helga and Lisa? Do you have the same kind of feeling about them? No, I don't. For some reason I don't see them the same way. I guess, yeah. That is different.

Just curious, but okay, go ahead. No, you're right. I have my prejudices. But this guy is clearly like, they say it's not the lines, you know, it's not the dialogue, it's what you're saying. And I'm like, this guy is saying something. And when you criticize him, he laughs. And he's still better at this than KB. I would much rather watch this than KB because at least every seven minutes something will

happen. Wow, shots fired. This is a man dying on camera filming it and it's other ones are much slower. This guy's like, this is going to happen next week so tune in now. Yeah, no, that's a good point and he's starting to get some tough talk going with Patrick Melton. You you fucked with the wrong motherfucker Patrick Melton, I I'm just gonna tell it again and again The wrong motherfucker got fucked with But I'm here to fuck back

This is some of the worst trash talking I've ever heard. I remember I was living in the city with my girlfriend at the time. We had an apartment up on the second floor and there were two homeless guys by the dumpster and we had the windows open. It was nice out. And the one homeless guy was the other homeless guy come in my face over and over again. And I went, I don't think he knows what that means. We're cracking up. I was like, this guy come in my face over and over again, and I went I don't think he knows what that means We're cracking up. I was like this guy's trying to talk tough. I don't think he understands what he's saying And actually this next clip is a perfect example of that

He's got a face built for fucking And how many times can I fuck a glob of shit in the face? If I go too far. I don't know how he's going to recover from this one. He's got a face for fucking. But Adam, I can tell you're getting uncomfortable. Don't worry. It gets much worse

I Can't tell melting that enough. I have nothing to live for do you Yeah, well then watch your fat fucking mouth and put your ass where belongs behind me Got it. I think you want to take it from behind by Patrick Melton I don't think he understands what he's saying right here but this is a lot of tough guy talk he's feeling it, he's angry with Patrick Melton he's letting him know not to fuck around

like I'm understanding, like even though what he's saying doesn't make any sense I'm getting the gist of it I'm picking up what he's saying doesn't make any sense. I'm getting the gist of it. Mm-hmm. I'm picking up what he's putting down Did he say he has nothing to live for he did and did he say it as a brag? Yeah It's not great. It's not great. Oh, yeah. Well, I've got no family and no friends no future Well, no, that's enough. that's what I was. Okay shit Well now I'm gonna make fun of you if you read that you it would never even occur to you to read that line that way Actor like if I read the script, there's no way I would deliver it that way. They'd be like I will

Don't call us. We'll call you. Thanks for coming in all of them have it in common It's amazing to see and it's not even a negative It's like wow that's brilliant. Yeah, if I was dying That's what I would say in that way who gets to see this who chooses to film this it's incredible It can be awful and amazing at the same time now Adam. I Mentioned there was a payoff like why are we focusing on this guy? I realize, you know, Carl's aligned with Patrick, you know, we're doing hackamania this weekend. Is Carl, is he just, you know, trying to stick up for his buddy, Patrick Melton? And so he's going, oh, fuck this guy. He's a drunk idiot.

No, I would never do such a thing. I'm not loyal to anyone. I'm a bad friend like that. The reason why we're checking out this Karmic guy, Karmic Axes is YouTube, is because this was announced Monday morning. Let's go to these real quick while people refresh the chat here. MGD with $5 says, talking of icons and legends, heroes and stars, how are we standing on Karmic jumping on today? Karmic X will be on the evening show tonight at Eight o'clock so for the last half hour we'll have karmic or five minutes or however long it takes we are gonna have karmic on the show today and

I just wanted his first appearance on the show to be He and I You know just he and I just a couple of bros kicking it, talking shit. So yes, Karmic X will be on at eight o'clock tonight. Amazing. I saw you react to, it seemed like Johnny was taking it back like, oh, I'm getting shut out of this. Okay, bye. All right, we got a new friend. That's fine Seemed like the reaction that Johnny had but Adam from everything that presented so far and we've seen a lot of clips of Carmich on multiple days leading up to Adams big announcement that Carmich is coming on the show

What do you think Aaron's angle is? I? Have no I was waiting to see him to get his opinion on and say anything so obviously it's not For entertainment purposes. It's political. It's for some move is this to get Kevin Brennan's attention Okay, that's that's one thought insert as this to go against Melton cuz that's what the onion Okay, so there's a couple thoughts that I had one was team up with this guy cuz he doesn't like Patrick Melton and the other just Aaron so the enemy of my enemy. But I really thought because Aaron's an old school radio guy, he's a shock jock, he tells us this every week, I thought for sure he's like, oh, I could take advantage of this drunk loser and bring him into my whack pack. And we could all point laugh at Carmic as he's a disaster on screen

You must be right because I was so distracted by him Visibly breaking Johnny crutches hard He was describing it like I didn't think Johnny could get any lower in the frame until he said and it's just gonna be us Two boys, and he just sunk even lower Because I'm chumps liver For some reason when Howard Stern makes fun of these people I find it endearing and when steeltoe does it I feel bad for crutches yes Agreed

Howard had a charm We didn't even realize the charm that Howard had were when anyone else asked girls about anal or makes fun of slow people we go Ah, what are you doing when Howard did it was great? We all loved it. I got this is fun. No one else can pull it off. It seems like Yeah, and this could actually be really exciting because they say like a flame is brightest right before it goes out And that's that's what that guy is. Yeah, so he doesn't he made it clear. I don't give a shit So if he thinks he's gonna have a easy audience that he can beat up with this guy I think he might be mistaken because that guy will say whatever and if you know anything about Aaron

It's it's not hard to destroy him and make him uncomfortable right and now the other thing I didn't mention about Kermit. Yeah, is that he's also from Minnesota so they have that in college another Minnesota guy and is that he's also from Minnesota. So they have that in common. He's another Minnesota guy. And he brings him on the show on the night show. You know, he said, I'm going to bring him on the show tonight at eight o'clock. And I'm thinking, oh, he wants him to be nice and drunk. He wants to make sure he's gotten into the drugs. And so he can take advantage of this whole thing and make a spectacle. Take the spectacle that we were just watching on WTP and put it on steel toe. It's gonna be a new thing that he's doing. But boy was I incorrect about that.

Like a walleye in Lake Malax is karmic X. What's going on, buddy? Are you doing Aaron doing good? I'm doing I'm doing great. Look, I don't know what people are expecting from this. I know they're very excited. But I didn't bring you on. And I'm sorry if anyone came here for this reason. I didn't bring you on to fuck with you. I didn't bring you on to be an asshole. I brought you on because I saw a clip of you shouting

about Pat Dixon. And you were you were losing your fucking mind. You were you were like cut it you were it was like it looked With your background and everything it looked like an old like a WA wrestling promo hold on a second Did I just hear that Aaron brought him on because he saw talent He saw Clifton's guy went this guy's good. I gotta get him up my show. He needs to be on the roster of steel toe He's too good at this This guy's good. I gotta get him on my show. He needs to be on the roster of Steel Toe. He's too good at this. Adam's blank stare says it all. I thought you froze up. I thought for sure you just stared at it like, what the fuck is he doing? I did freeze up, in a way.

Yes. What is he doing? What's he doing? I mean, Adam, you and I, we both host a show, who are these podcasts. If I sent you those clips, behind the scenes, would your reaction be like, should we bring him in and start doing psychophysicists with him? No. Definitely not. No. We can talk about him, but we would learn nothing by having him in here,

except we all, what we already see. Yes. So the Aaron's instinct is I want to team up with this guy he's got some hot takes and I need it to be on my show which is crazy and Johnny Crutches will just get in the way of that right can't have two retards I understand that you know all right so Aaron's are talking about Carmich's impression of him of Aaron and he says it makes himself conscious because I guess when Carmich does an impression of Aaron he uses his hands a lot in front of his face like Aaron does and That makes himself conscious and let's just see how good these two professional broadcasters are at broadcasting. I'm Aaron

Let's just say my impressions are very very loosely based it was a it was a quick grab of what I see and I was like Here I go. I'm just making something out of fresh air, so it wasn't a per pole I'm sorry to develop any complexes there in my bad. You should you should see what my you should see what my Haircutter person did to my hair this afternoon. So I'm being a little bit picky here, Adam. I pulled it out of fresh air. Thin air is the term. And then Aaron goes, you should see what my hair cutter person did with my haircut.

My wife's a hairstylist. I've never heard anyone refer to as a hair cutting person. I've never heard that term before. Is that the appropriate term for someone who styles hair? No, okay. No, it's not appropriate for a radio person to be using that kind of language. You got me I it has to take something Off I was building a narrative that we veered off for a second. We're gonna come back to it I just had to pull that clip because it just sounded so ridiculous. Let's do it. Yeah

We're gonna come back to it. I just had to pull that clip because it just sounded so ridiculous. It's too idiot This is really starting now. He's starting to bother me. All right. We're going somewhere with this. Don't worry everybody now There's Aaron like interviews this guy like a legit interview. He wants to know what he's doing this YouTube channel What he's up to do you have a set schedule? The schedule is not set in stone. I'm currently just trying to get the watch hours up right now. So I'm just going to take whatever time I can within the 24 hour period. And after that, once I get there, I'm going to hammer in a schedule. But I've criticized many a YouTuber for doing this where they go, oh, I'm just fucking around until we actually can start monetizing it.

Then I'll do a good show. No, don't do a good show. No. In fact, you'll get to that monetization quicker ifizing it, then I'll do a good show. No, don't do a good show, no. In fact, you'll get to that monetization quicker if you have a schedule and you do a good show. People know when to find you and what you'll do. Instead, all these idiots are just like, you know, Tom Myers is one of these clowns who's just like,

ah, we're just gonna sit here and stare at the screen and wait for someone to give me PayPal money and then praise them for it until we get monetized then I can get a Super chat and we'll read that once that happens Great strategy idiot, but again it goes back to people watching Kevin Brennan and going oh my gosh This is the easiest job in the world. Why don't I do that? Yes, this is Kevin's fault Kevin's come get his boy and bring him home. This is not okay Okay, so it's kind of up in the air all right who you mad at right now like if you could go off on anyone

Because I look I want to have you on here so I can learn more about you But what I really want to know is how do I piss you off tonight? How do I get you to go off if I want to just back up if I want to put my microphone over here? And I just want to you know give karmic center stage who could I bring up right now? Well, uh oh shit. What do you think of Chad Zumach? So leading the witness immediately so Aaron's thought is like this guy's gonna come on and just rant and rave and it's gonna be gold I can't wait to have karmic on it's gonna be great. All right, let's get started who you pissed off about Let's go. What do you want to yell about?

How about Chad Zumach? And he goes, I don't have a problem with Chad Okay Not a good start. So then he goes alright cuz he knows he doesn't like Patrick Melton. So he's like, alright I know what he's gonna rant about. What made you done with Melton aside from him being a thin-skinned closeted gay theater kid? you done with Melton aside from him being a thin-skinned closeted gay theater kid obsessed with my penis? What made you not like him anymore? Well, you know, I think it's fair that, you know, when you work in podcasts, you come across different personalities and I seen value in Melton. I think everybody sees value in everybody. Especially per pound.

Not the answer he was looking for. Remember remember I'm playing all these clips from just the past couple days Where he's going after Melton when he was drunk when he went on the next day He probably was still drunk. It seemed like it anyway. I don't know. Maybe it was sober But talking about eating Melton's ass or something weird fucking his face. I don't know and then he just goes I can see value in everyone who podcasts. Well, it's pretty good and Aaron's big comeback is yeah per pound Wouldn't that make him even better than if he's weighs a lot Get it. I don't get the joke there

but they continue to talk about Patrick Melton and Karmic thinks that he's smarter than him. I'm like, okay Melton you're here mentally I'm over here man We're at two different. We're on two different planes and I can't tell it to him hours on end Or as it looks a little little too heavy-handed if you will if you know what I mean So here's the really the point that I wanted to make I know was a long buildup for this I'm like an Aussie guy style buildup for the point that I want to make but Aaron is being blinded by his hate for Patrick Melton

He is seeing a guy he's just like I can align with this guy and we could go after Patrick together. This guy is retarded This guy is full blown out of it He brings nothing. It's pathetic. It's sad. And Aaron goes, yeah, but he hates Patrick Melton. Let's talk about Patrick Melton. Sucks, huh? He's fat, right? He's stupid too, right? Yeah. I like how this guy thinks he's on a different level than Patrick Melton mentally. And I like how Aaron thinks he's on a different level than this guy. I did call that he thought he was gonna push this guy around and He can't because this guy is just saying honestly whatever he feels and Aaron is trapped in a prison of lies and self-delusion That this guy is not gonna keep up with and doesn't care to this is not going the way Aaron was hoping at all

It's like who you pissed at. What do you got? You just got a little man kind of having a good day today Not what I was hoping for and So Aaron is getting upset about his reactions You're coming on here, and I thought you were gonna be firing from both barrels, and you're being very diplomatic You're being a politician right now karmic a little bit just a little bit I didn't I I wanted to get to know the real karmic, and I have a feeling I'm sitting down with job interview Karmic right now You're what Aaron's doing right here. Aaron's going I need you to have a whole different Disposition on this you're doing this all wrong

I need you to be like fired up and angry and screaming and ranting about stuff and This guy's not picking up what he's putting down even though Aaron asks the exact same question yet again. Who do you hate? Who do you fucking hate? Who would you like to just see fucking die? Who do you want to see rot and just die a horrible death like a slow death like scorpions eat their body? Well, I'm going to go for, well, would it be too far to say this perhaps Hassan piker Anybody that enables that piece of shit

That's not what he's looking for. No. He's looking for people to devil first like Chad Zuback Patrick Melton, maybe Carl from WTP. That's not biker Yeah, okay, we could get into that although that goes nowhere goes well. Why you met it's not bikers like I don't know I haven't really even watched the stuff with these inclined. Yeah Okay But I think very subtly that he knows what he's trying to do and what Aaron's trying to do is is the same thing that John's trying to do he's like how can I control you and own you he only knows one or two things about this guy One of them is that he lost his corporate job, and he's been fucked up ever since

So what does he do to try to get him to do what he wants? He says oh you seem like a job interview Yeah, you still that corporate guy. He's searching What can I do to ruin your life here? You know in front of everyone and I think maybe probably unconsciously this guy's aware of it And he's just not gonna play that game He knows when he's trying to be controlled even when drunk and he's like I'm not I'm not gonna play your game he's not being manipulated by Aaron Aaron thinks he's like a master at this kind of thing and he's gonna get that's what I meant

by he's smart this guy's not smart he's just more street smart than Aaron Imholt yes also the way that Aaron says that tells me there's something wrong with this guy. And I understand he's doing it for the radio, but this thing, who do you want to see die a slow death? Just the way you explained it, I'm like, no one. What do you mean? I like to clown stuttering John and Opie.

I don't want anyone to be tortured or hurt. What kind of way to think is that? But he really was trying to get to this guy's like visceral reaction like, I'm so angry at Patrick Melton. I want him to not have a cheeseburger for seven hours in a row. I was having to feel what that's like. So we get the job offer. It's funny you say that, that Aaron realizes he's out of work. He probably needs a gig. And so Aaron offers something. M G D with $2 says Johnny had a good run. Welcome aboard Karmic. Yeah. I think Karmic,

what you should do before I want to say that I know we got more time, but like if you're ever really fired up one day and you need a platform and you just want to rant, but you don't think you've got like a two hour stream in you. And if we're on the air from six to 10 in the morning, you just shoot me a DM and we'll see if we can sneak in some time. But only if you're truly fired up and you've got some hate. I want hate out of you, boy. I'll bring the hate on demand.

Steel to whatever you need it. Consider done. If you ever have free-floating hostility, I want you to DM me first. So this is interesting. Aaron has seen something, he sees something in this guy where he goes, this is compelling, this is interesting. And his thought is, don't do that on your channel,

do that on my channel. It's just an interesting offer to make. Like, I'll probably just do it on my channel, but okay, thanks, good talk. You can't expect me to bring it out of you or be a host and provide situations for you to react to you need to do all that on your own and then when you're ready and Probably too fucked up call me. Yes, and I'll take it from there. Is this bizarre? It's just like when Stuttering John was offering um who was it a Jock co-host job. What was her name a radio gunk. He was offering her on the air

He was like you could do and she was like yeah, I'm pretty busy John Years ago yes Yeah, yeah, I'll be everything you want, buddy you and me Oh, this is second date Aaron This is this is not go the way Aaron wanted it to at all. And he's trying to force it. This is like a guy going, yeah, but just come in for like a drink or something, you know? No, I should probably get going home.

No, I understand, but it's still early. You can just come in for a drink, right? Like I said, Wednesdays and Thursdays, I'm all by myself. And I like being all by myself. But if you're ever feeling enraged and you want to yell and smear somebody and you want to, you want to demean someone, just send me a DM and I'll let you shit all over anyone you want. Yeah, no, we got it. We got the offer. We understand, but Anna,

maybe he doesn't understand. Let's make that offer one more time. Well, I tell you what, man, I think we're all caught up and we made it to eight 30 and that was a lot of fun. And what, man, I think we're all caught up and we made it to 830 and that was a lot of fun. And my, my, how I'd like to summarize this interview is this, or summarize this interview is again, if you wake up or if you're just sitting around one day and you're like, you know, you're doing that thing where like, if I was in front of this motherfucker right now, I'd say X, Y, or Z. I want you to save that feeling.

DM me immediately and say, send me the fucking link. I hate so and so and just tell me who the hatred is for so that I know how to kind of get you going. That sounds like a plan. Yeah. This guy's blowing him off. He's like, yeah, I can't wait to wake up in the morning and then think about someone I dislike and then DM you so you can send me a link eventually and I can do a segment on your show.

Right, yell out so much. How should it be labeled? What's the labeling? What do you need, Aaron? You know what's so funny about this is that if this was a meeting behind the scenes that came out, it would be embarrassing. It's not a show, it's even more embarrassing.

This is literally like they're doing a work. It's even more embarrassing. This is literally like they're doing a work like Adam. You and I have never had a conversation like this, but I was like, hey, Adam, what if like you don't like Opie and you think he sucks at broadcasting? All right, so we'll do a thing where I'll play clips and you'll be like, oh, this guy stinks at broadcast. He should be better because he used to host a show. Okay, I think I could do that. Carl. Yeah. What are some of the talking points? Oh, well, definitely got to talk about how he brags about doing since he was 18. You're right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay, right that That's what's happening right now. You got it, man

He's literally setting up a fake thing that's gonna be on his show in the future like oh man You guys are gonna love when karmic calls in and he's ready to rant and rave about someone watch out Hasan Piker's not gonna let one hit him. I didn't know much about Karmic but I do know Aaron and I knew that Aaron thought he was gonna be the big time this guy and that this guy was not in was not gonna let that happen and he didn't and it once again Aaron looks stupid and the the the the real offense on both of them is that there's this assumption that this is a show. Yes, like this is for no one but you, you're serving at Aaron, your personal

issues. That's all this is. Aaron could have gone a few different ways like we discussed before we showed these clips with this. And I thought he was gonna treat him like a whack packer and clown him to his face. But the idea that he thinks that he can milk content out of this guy, and the guy's just like not giving him anything that he wants. And he's like, well, maybe next time?

You know, so the girl doesn't come inside, you're like, well, we're gonna go on another date though, right, I know you don't wanna come in for a drink, but I'll see you Thursday? They're like, ah, I'm very busy Thursday. Do you remember that legendary day when Howard Stern first talked to Daniel Carver and told him well hey, man If you're ever feeling racist Call me

DM me first DM me then call me yeah talk to John get through and then You're feeling the feels about Mexicans. I need you to call that day, please So this is the the final clip I have on here We're gonna find out that even though this job interview did not go well Aaron's so desperate that karmic got the job All right done. I am officially naming karmic X our official rage correspondent and He will be paid per appearance on And he will be paid per appearance on Steeltoe. And when you send me the DM, it's not going to be like a link right away.

I'll work it in as quickly as we can. Can you believe this? I hope I didn't oversell it. I couldn't believe what just unfolded in the last couple days with Karmic and Aaron. Karmic is losing his mind. Like you said, it's like, oh no, this guy's not long for this world. And Aaron sees this and goes, this is my new rage correspondent. This is going to be a part of the Steel Toe morning show. People are going to love it. The guy who could not stop smiling sincerely on his show.

Yes. Didn't really work out the way he was hoping. Adam, we have a lot to get to. We have quad father really stepping in it in a segment that Adam calls as the wheelchair spins. We'll be getting into all of that. We have Jake Hudson revealing the porn preference the porn category preference. We have more stuttering john with primal scream. And it's incredible when they start talking about metal bands and celebrities and John starts name dropping. We also have another two minutes with Tom Game coming up. And I want you to talk to us about what's going

on on BYB. So the Backyard Boys podcast hosted by Quadfather for many years now they've had different lineups of people on there. Used to be a show with Stevie Lou. They had a following out. There's been a lot of different people who have come and gone, but Quadfather has been the constant there. And I guess they're a dabble verse wrap up show where they talk all things dabble verse. Yeah, that seems to be it. Okay. They have a small audience, a large panel, and they like to talk about the dabble verse.

Who doesn't love that? Sure. So what were they talking about on this recent episode? Well, as we've been discussing and I've been learning, it's crucial that you take a side if you're going to comment in the dabble verse. You can't just keep your mind open. You have to have allegiances. And Quad has very strong feelings about

Shuli and he's been naming every episode about Shuli and really covering this as much as he can. And he did not like when I was on his show. It didn't go well for him and he's been kind of like battling me in the mirror ever since I left. He keeps going over these points when he's by himself, and he did that for three or four episodes. He'd keep bringing them up and doing that thing that you would mention with John when he would be like,

I know you're gonna, look at this, Carl. Like, you're in his head. You can see him. I'm outta nowhere. Yeah, it's a weird feeling. You can see him still, you know, arguing with me on his show three or four episodes later, and I guess that wasn't enough. So he's like, I gotta get what Granny Hall would call a real Jew in here and have them defend Shuley like Adam did, and then I can tell him all the things that I've been thinking of for the last four weeks and own this

guy and feel better and get over it Unfortunately, that's not what happened. So no Buckman who joined the yes. Yes who I'm not familiar with What is his history? Where does he come from? He sees a big fan of the devil or I see his name pop it up all over Especially on the Shuli network Do you have to be named shmul it just it makes it so hard we're trying so hard and like poor really Shuling and shmul. I know I know it's it's been a tough goal these last couple years, too, okay? But either way I this went so Alright. But either way, this went so poorly for Quad that I would like to start at the end when

everyone's just talking over each other and kind of it's chaos and Quad is reduced to just saying the opposite of whatever, you know, his guest is saying and that puts him in a bad position. Nonsense. Everything you were saying was nonsense. You win every argument. I know that. No, I don't win. I don't win every argument. I get owned all the time. You know everything. You know what Shuley knew when Shuley knew it. That he lied about that.

I never said I did. He did this. Jack is on saying Shuley took money. I just want to real quick for context I'm sure most people know what we're talking about but she was producer a guy knew as Iso dough Who actually lives in the Rochester area was caught with CP on multiple? Devices hard drives, whatever it is and was sentenced to I think five years in prison whatever it is, and was sentenced to, I think, five years in prison. He had been off of Shuli's show for about a year before that. And then it was discovered that he was convicted of this thing. And so Shuli came on and did a live stream

where he basically was like very distraught about the whole thing and talked about donating to this charity that tries to help children have been trafficked and stuff like that. And since then, mainly, Vince the midget Vince, the lawyer has been pushing this narrative that surely knew well in advance of him making that video. And this seems to be a really big deal to guys like quad father, they talk about it all the time It's a very important thing When did truly know about ESO and was he hiding that from people until it finally came out and everyone knew about it?

so that's what they're discussing here and You just heard quad father say that he's never claimed That surely knew he never said that. And Adam, you could go back to previous episodes if you wanted to. I heard him say it. Multiple examples of him saying it. And then I realized I didn't even have to go that far. Here are examples of him saying that Shuli knew before he said it just from this episode

alone, including before and after he denied saying it three times in a row. When we're saying like, Shealy knew before the day he made his little crying video that that entire situation was going on long ago, long before that. How do you know that? I mean, it's, it's, it was out there. Like there's no way that Even Carl didn't know about this shit like why would he come out and make a crying video if he already knew because he's a

Disingenuous fuck would be my point. Yes After that entire crying video, that's what yes, I think 100% Again because I think he would have known that before that day. Like I'm saying, if you know before that day and then you come make us a crying video, go fuck, go fuck yourself. Right. But you don't know that he knew that beforehand. But I will say that I think that he's disingenuous and knew way fucking more than he's let on about what happened with fucking Isolation. Not based on anything other than your feelings.

But that's not really what you've done on this show. I think what everyone is saying that he knew all about this for way longer than he fucking knew or is telling us about. That's what the problem is. We all think that he knew about the charges or what was going on and was too, like, too much of a bitch to come out with it. Shuley knew, you haven't said Carl knew, you haven't. No, I said Shuley knew, I said Carl knew.

I wouldn't, what's the point of saying that they knew? What I'm saying they knew is there was charges against him before they came out with the statement that they... I feel that there I feel like there's no other there's no way that he didn't know before that day I don't believe it wouldn't believe oh Fucking way. It's impossible Improbable Indeed what a show three hours of this just going I bet she we do don't she we definitely do Carl definitely know This is these are stuttering John talking points is what they're doing now, there's regurgitating things a moron says and

I've said this before I'll just say it again It's so stupid to say that I knew anything about he so don't I didn't know his real name. His name is not he's so dull That's the only thing I I knew him from and they go well this is this was sorry Just as I don't know quad brother says this third John goes well. I had to be big news in Rochester if This guy was caught with all the CP on their devices Well, you know there's other fans of the devil verse in Rochester, right? There's there's hundreds of people in Rochester who follow this shit None of them decided to go on dabbl Anonymous or the WHTP subreddit

or anywhere and show the news clip or the story. How is that possible? Maybe no one knew. I'm just throwing it out there that nobody fucking knew. And it's weird to watch something like this, Adam. And I'm sure you've been in this situation before, considering your profession where there's always people speculating about gossip and you know the truth and you go well these people are just fucking wasting their time they have no idea what they're talking about what kind of losers spend so much time talking about something they know nothing about they're just speculating randomly for a long time too I speculate about shit then I move on like whatever

if point dabble point was about the same thing every week. We would have definitely wrapped that thing up and been done with it He's also playing coy and he's playing the same game that he played with me. What is surely new mean? We know what that means. We know what you're implying. He goes. I didn't say that the name of this episode is surely new I didn't say that so why name of this episode is Shuli New. I didn't say that. So why did you have this guy on, Quad? I mean, when confronted with anything, you refuse to change your mind.

You want that person to be bad, and you won't be satisfied until that happens. But unfortunately, you're not as smart as the people you're having on, and you're not as smart as the people you're having on and you're not as smart as the people that are watching and they can see what's going on and how you seem like a spoiled baby crying in a toy aisle that didn't get what they wanted. You'll literally just say anything to make this person feel bad and you're so bad at it. They just get empowered. So it's like, why I like watching it. Yeah, Shmuel Buckman seemed to do a pretty good job of getting

underneath Quadfather's skin on this episode. And what's really interesting is how we got to this point where he's kind of losing his mind. And that's because it was brought to Quad's attention that a member of the BYB panel had taken a screen grab of some boy with his shirt off and spread it around. That's what Quad was asked. He would say, I don't have the source. I don't know. Here's an anonymous accusation. What say you Quad? And here's how he responds. He would say I don't have the source. I don't know here is an anonymous Accusation what say you quad and here's how he responds

Quite actually here's the idea that I received earlier today that one of the people on this panel sent out somebody's kids shirtless pictures a young boy But I'm not a young I don't know where that information came I not that I don't know where I know it came from but I don't know that it's true and I'm not going to associate that person and the other people on the panel with that behavior well who's send it out case who's telling yeah not don't bring it up dude if you're a fool what's it their own fuck up hmm weird so if you don't know the facts you shouldn't bring it up. That's weird and It wasn't even a question. They're like this is how life is

You're just like gonna speculate and start accusing people of stuff when you don't know anything about it Mm-hmm. Why would you do such a thing? And this is the best part right here Here is how a proud gun enthusiast and patriot like the quad father handles an anonymous secondhand threat here's how here's how he handles it live stream to a picture that you don't believe is being sent out like you're on the internet on with your camera on. Are you fucking retarded?

And, but why would you take a, why would you screenshot that and then send that out to other people? That's crazy. Why don't you? You're okay with that. So you'd do that. So you'd be perfectly happy sending out the kid being photographed. We happy out the obvious

Photograph I mean, I guess obviously I had no problem with doing it because I did it. Yeah motherfucker So Should I have my hypocrite police shirt on? Is that what you're saying here, Adam? I think we got two tickets to the hypocrisy policeman's ball. I think you're right about that. Well, Quad really steps in it. And that's the problem with not understanding your argument just being, I don't like Shuley. I don't like Carl.

So I'm just going to say this stuff about them. And then you go, yeah, but you do this thing that's the exact same thing. Yeah, of course I did. Go fuck yourself. Okay, weird. Krod doesn't understand. I thought he was open-minded. So I went on to do his show. He convinced me otherwise. He's a proud boy. You thought he was an open-minded proud boy? I thought he was. I thought he was open to listening. Yes. I understand. I'm naive. I get it I thought we had a common enemy and at least we'd be able to have a civil discussion But this is dangerous and this guy doesn't see it

He's so dangerous when you will not back down from your point of view Regardless of what the facts or the world or everyone you love tells you that's dangerous. That's how people end up Right in bad situations and this guy you can just see him being like just like him and Chad showing up to KB's house With a gun being like I thought this is what you wanted. I don't understand All right, what's the next cup you have out here? Oh here He explains how even though yes He did take a picture of a shirtless boy and spread it around to his friends You cannot blame him for doing that. Oh good. I

Don't know quad. It sounds a little creepy to me that you would take this picture that was Everybody's been trying to everybody Little bit little bit creepy to me, right I did that with my son That sounds a little bit a little bit creepy to me, right? I did that with my son It didn't bother me at all. And if you go look at his Facebook profile right now You'll see his kid with his kids fucking shirt off So apparently the kid walks around with his shirt off all the time as you can go look and see for yourself All over the place is kid walking around with his shirt off so apparently that's the thing Walked in behind a screen, and it's my fucking fault because he's a bad parent. I don't fucking think so I

Think you labeled this one. Oh go shorter skirt is so what do you think's gonna happen? He was asking for Short skirt little victim blaming going on and where were his parents quad If you're ever on a stream that you turned on yourself arguing about how? Clothes the boy was just industry. Yeah, it's not working out. Yeah. Yeah, just pivot. Yes. It's not going well In fact in this next clip he does pivot He decides to go on the offensive Which is probably I guess the only thing you can't do at this point. You're insinuating What am I insinuating what am I insinuating?

Sounds like you're calling me a beatify you fuck Insinuation well woman what the fuck are you? It's an absurd insinuation. Well, then what the fuck are you trying to say? I'm saying that it's an odd behavior. What are you trying to say then spit it out, faggot? What am I supposed to think about that? Why would you take a picture even if it was off Facebook and send it to other people in DMs and texts? Why would they do that? What was the point? Because I said it was like hey motherfucker. Why don't you get your kids out of the screen? What the fuck are you doing? Okay, but then you would send it to that person right now to other people

well Anyway long story short I Chat in fucking got sent to fucking Luke of the bind not by request that person was like hey Should I send it to him? I was like I don't give a fuck what you do and he did and that's the end of the story Luke and the story I'm not a PDF files do that to intimidate him Okay, she's like one of those catch-a-predator groups that like entrap people He's like one of those catch-a-predator groups that like entrap people But instead of contacting the authorities or the victims or the parents he just sends it to his friends

Right. What are you accomplishing with this? And you see he's confronted with truth and he just shakes it away. He goes nope This is what you were doing to Shuli. You don't have to like Shuli. It's very easy not to like Shuli. There's a few people who don't like Shuli out there, yes. Yes, and there are valid points. You don't have to bring this stuff up and it doesn't have to be this. And when it is done to you, you are fucking apoplectic. You will not even tolerate. And watching all your boys suddenly snap to life for the first time in two and a half hours But what is what is this guy doing? What is what is he? He's doing what you do and you're out of your mind about it. So maybe maybe fucking stop it

well I remember when we played clips of you on this show and You said look at this whole situation is gross. No one's happy about any of this that happened I'd prefer not to talk about it and quads like I don't want to talk about it either and fast forward three weeks later And it's still the major topic on the show What we try to share reason he's talking about it is because everyone keeps bringing it up And I told him you're the only one bringing it up. Yeah, it's the name of the show It's the name of the episode yeah, but I'm trying to hate Shuli so I need something. Yes.

And he makes it clear right here in this next clip that it is not right, he says it out loud as if we don't know him. He says it is not right to make assumptions about someone's motives based on their actions. Okay. I'm glad that you brought that here to use it against me. That's funny. You're almost like another all these other disingenuous fucks that all of

us. I'm not disingenuous. I'm just making a comment. You would have brought that up to me on our phone call. I didn't I got I got that DM about an hour ago unsolicited. Whoa. Hold on a second. You would have brought that up to me on our phone call. I didn't got I got that DM about an hour ago unsolicited Whoa, hold on a second. You would have brought that up on our phone call. Is this a pre interview that he's doing? That's what it sounds like. Is there a call screener before they have someone on the show? What do you want to talk to quad father about? All right. All right

Yeah, you can get on the line and then all of a sudden the guy comes out He goes celery jobs at the baseball cave like I got back up It's card if I got We talk about projection a lot on this show, but very rarely are there such clear examples on his last episode about us He was obsessed with how? Watt follows this script and not only were we not offended like we really didn't know what he was talking about Right we were trying to figure out like he just he was obsessed with this idea that when someone on this show Deviates from the script you lose your mind. I get up told him. Yeah I can't handle that and then the next week he goes well

They were taking the word script a certain way I just meant like Carl has his talking points, and if someone has a different opinion He gets very upset. We just watched quad father be like you weren't supposed to say that on this show What the fuck and I told him he asked me and I told him in a spirit of friendship like no That's actually not how it goes. There's not a script There's clips we pull but there's no discussion about our points of view and he said I was a liar and full of shit and a Lot of other things because of it. Yeah, look at now what believes everything, you know, he he watches all these shows He's involved in all this dabble verse stuff and there's a lot of people putting nonsense out about

Shuli and who are these podcasts and he chooses to believe that even though there's no, not only is there no factual evidence, there's no evidence of any of this stuff, but also there's a lot of reasons to believe it doesn't make sense because people tell them, no, that's not the case. I know it intimately and that's not how it works. Adam goes out and goes, I'm a co-host on Carol's show and I can tell you that's not how this works at all. Yeah, no. I know better based on no experience.

Right. And it really, if you think we're, sure, I'm being a little petty, I'm being a little small, but he's choosing to use these issues to take down Shuley and to take down his enemies. He's choosing to talk about this stuff and weaponize it. And if you thought for a second or were fooled to think that he cares about this stuff and weaponize it and if you thought for a second or were fooled to think that he cares about this stuff the second it

was turned on him he's explaining to you what constitutes as a bad image and a good image and how when he does it in any form it is absolutely acceptable right and starts getting into the minut show of like how much clothing they're wearing but he deserved it understand it was okay when I did it there's few episodes of that predator show where they're like well this guy had a point she was asking for it she was come on I mean it's not his fault she was good at texting that's strong thought 14 was a typo. We don't know like

Right when it's quad you're given the benefit of the doubt and that is Scary when you can't just because you think you're in a position of power decide to wield it How sad is that that one of the only people actually watches the show Adam Bush? It's just hate watching it. That's so sad quad Sorry, man It's the one thing we all have in common. It's an anger. It's true. Did you pulled a couple of other bonus clips? Do you want to hit any of those? The only one that's worth is I think the last one I sent you that that number nine, okay? Because he keeps saying quad that any criticism of him is unwarranted because they're doing a comedy show

And it's just jokes. These are just jokes. They're jokes now It's it's crazy to me that someone who's never done stand-up never Studied it never told a joke go never told a joke. Yeah, thanks him and his buddy Honky-kang are the ones who should take the Holocaust jokes. They're the ones who should take the hardest stuff. Like, we're not gonna start with puns and knock-knock jokes. He's gonna go right to whatever the toughest material is, and here's why with examples like this. How much does a Holocaust cost?

Your point. What's ahead? Too much! this how much does a holocaust yeah point my it's too much i will give you one penny per no uh yes uh we'll get off that topic very quickly well that didn't go well nope he was into it though at first. He's waiting for the bigger action from that He's the reason George Carlin and Howard Stern got crucified by the FCC It's assholes like this who take advantage of that to you know You think you're on the level of Richard Pryor you think you and the great minds should be making these kind of jokes Based on what you're not even a podcaster quad and I just if I'm sorry He's not coming to Vegas. I'd love to talk to quad after this now

It's too bad. I would love to sit down with an interview or just a one-on-one Anytime, please explain to me how I'm wrong in a calm environment Yeah, I'm the environment tell me what I'm missing because you tried to humiliate me and failed, tried to humiliate this guy and you failed, you refuse to give up on camera a single point. However... He's saying that Shuley protected a pedophile. Yes. These are very serious allegations that he just throws around non-stop. Why would somebody do that?

Why would somebody do that? Because if you listen to people like VTM, they immediately associate it with, well, he must be into that too. You know, they try to bring this leap of like, well, he must be just as bad. That's what he's saying, you know, but he won't admit it in person because he's scared and he's not proud, he's insecure.

So he has to just say no when the camera's on. But then today, if I may, some breaking news. In the description for the new BYB episode that's coming tonight, he says in fine print in the episode description, after the blow up with Shmuel Buckman on Monday, we think we can put ISO in the vault for good until we have any proof, one way or the other,

on who knew what and when. What an amazing epiphany. It must have just slipped out of there or something and just realized like, oh, maybe I should stop talking about it, should I not know anything about it, stop accusing people of horrendous things they didn't do. Wow. Amazing. I don't know anything about stop accusing people of horrendous things. They didn't do wow Amazing or you you could just do it in real time on camera and oh good boy Yeah, that's a pussy thing show you're right

Like make a friend and maybe do some good you fuck you dumb fuck that is kind of a pussy move right there It was just like just types it. I oh we won't do this anymore Yeah, yeah move right there was just like just types it I oh we won't do this anymore yeah yeah well that's it we see learn the Arabs ways that's good to know we still have a Settling John segment coming up and two minutes with Tom we got a game coming up we got your voicemails but you were checking out a show called dabbling in politics with Mumbling Nick and Liquid Cryptic. Liquid Crypted. Liquid Crypted.

And this episode featured Mr. Jake Hudson and Avariza. Yes. So you learned something from this. I appreciate watching these shows. Oh, I watch it so the rest of you don't have to. I watched an hour and a half and I pulled the clip you all should see so you don't have to I watched an hour and a half and I pulled the clip you all should see so you don't have to we're gonna learn something about our buddy Jake Hudson that we did not previously know when you

imagine having sex with women do you like to imagine yourself as a more dominant one or submissive or do you like them to be equal partners? So that's Ava who's asking Jake because obviously he's not having sex with women so she's like well you're probably picturing yourself having sex with women. What does that look like? Fair question. To be honest with you I do watch like this is gonna get a little bit exaggerated. Do watch like This doesn't get a little bit extra aided I've watched a lot. I've watched like chatter bay. I watched Kim soda what a lot of the

Stuff plus I also watch it's a cam soda You write that down and even know about that all right cool videos other stuff Like what type what categories? Some of it don't get offended by one of my favorite true one of my favorite counter was our trains oh why would you get offended jake I love jaker that's a heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee heehee heehee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee he And they're the ones that bitch about trans people the most ways the devil vers bitchy about trans people the most cuz I Haven't seen that. I mean I don't know what I would Certainly has come off it. That's true. But this is a a wonderful episode

Mumbling Nick and liquid crypto do a great job and then halfway through I don't know what happens I've it just takes over and starts asking Jake these amazing questions and Jake is very honest. It feels like a very safe space that you're watching. I recommend everyone to have Ava as a guest because she will turn it on and turn it around. That's fantastic. We gotta get her on WATP. She's reached out to me a few times. So we'll get that figured out. All right. We have reached that time in the show. I am very excited to hit this drop. I'm bleeding generously because I got a bloody ass. Breaking news, breaking news. I forgot who sent this to me, so I apologize in advance for that.

But do you remember when we were watching Stuttering John on with Nick from Primal Scream podcast this most recent episode, he talked about his band Stiff Minister And he said our band had a motto Do you remember that Adam? Oh? Oh God if it ain't snowing if it ain't stiff it ain't worth a fuck Right is what he said turns out he stole that from stiff records who sells the t-shirt right here You could purchase the if it ain't stiff it ain't worth a fuck t-shirt So even his dumb band slogan or tagline or motto whatever it was

He ripped off from someone else Which is weird because he didn't have to I remember as a kid growing up in Long Island Just seeing that stiff minister logo on the desks and on the lockers and just everywhere you went It was stiff minister She go to school with with John State area was called ourselves the ministers. We were fans, you know now Where I left off with the interview and I got about 20 minutes into the interview the last time we covered this, it was where Nick, the host of the show, made the mistake of calling

John a whack packer. And it was very clear he didn't understand what the term whack packer meant in the lore of the Howard Stern show. He thought it meant you're an OG. When you think of the Howard Stern show and when they came to be, it was Howard, Fred, Jackie, Robin, Gary, stuttering John. That's how he was like, yeah, you're like one of the guys. And John was very upset, very upset that he would call him a whack-packer. Even when the guy explained himself as a no, I don't mean to take offense. I mean, you're like one of the guys and John would not let it go. He got very butthurt. You were the because he brought a guy on that studies you were

the catalyst for the whack. No, no, I was in the OG. There was only six of us. Right. There was me, Jackie, Fred, Rob and Gary and Scott. That was it. There was the six of us that worked there. And you know, and we worked there. We worked hard. And you know, when I started was we were only on the New York and Philly.

And I was doing those interviews. And those interviews became probably one of the most popular segments. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But no, no, no, no, it wasn't part of the most popular segments. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, it wasn't part of the whole thing. I don't think any of those guys could have done it other than you, like I'm saying, like those bots. So he makes it clear. He was not a Wackpacker.

He was part of the original six. Now I would say there's an argument to be made that the only reason why John is, you know, one of these guys who was like the original crew is because he didn't leave after his internship like most people did. Because the Howard Stern Show had been around for close to a decade before John joined it. So this idea that, I mean, private parts, the movie, Chronicles, Howard Stern's rise to stardom. All of it happened before John was on the show. So you can see all the different players that were part of the Howard Stern show, but John

likes to paint this picture that like, oh no, no, no, I was one of the guys before everyone else got there and I was one of the the original six. Well it's funny because EL sent this to me and it's when Mitch Fatel who was the intern before John was the intern he became a pretty famous stand-up comedian very successful stand-up and he came back to the Howard Stern show to be like hey look at me I made I made something of myself I was an intern here all those years ago. And now no one knows me from Howard Stern show they know me as Mitch Fetel. He had Comedy Central specials, I believe. I remember

seeing him all over TV at the time. And so this is interesting as they talk they're reminiscing about a time when Mitch asked Norman Lear, Norman Lear was having a lifetime achievement award ceremony and there was a presser and so Mitch asked this crazy question of Norman Lear that threw him off. So Norman Lear glares at Mitch. I mean glares, I'm in the back work of the tape recorder,

thank God, I have to push the record button down. He glares at him and he goes, there's a long pause, and he goes, oh my God. He, he glares at him and he goes there's a long pause and he goes oh my god He goes I I don't even he goes. I just won a lifetime achievement award. I don't even understand that question Like you wouldn't let it go he kept going. Oh my god. Oh my god So finally somebody asked him another question and he starts answering he goes I gotta stop I gotta tell you I don't get your question I gotta stop I gotta tell you I don't get your question

Mitch did a lot of good stuff Mitch was the guy who did the whole homeless makeover on our video Remember that yeah, he did a lot of good. So Mitch was asking John questions before John. Oh, yeah, definitely Even Artie leg played ties like also John wasn't the first guy to ask crazy questions celebrities like no No, Mitch Fetel definitely did that and I love that Artie Lang who was a huge fan of the Howard Stern show it meant so much to him to get onto the show the first time as a guest when Norm brought him along as his buddy and then to actually get hired for the Jackie chair he would talk about it all the time like me and my dad bonded over the Howard Stern show I grew up listening to the show and even Artie is sitting there going but John always takes credit for being the guy who asks all the crazy questions, but your other interns do that before him.

Mitch Fatel is right here talking about that. And I mean this as a dick to take this away from John, because John brags about it so goddamn much that he thinks that Triumph the Insult Comic Dog ripped him off an olly gee, and he goes through the list, he ripped off Mitch Fetel? He wasn't even the first guy in Howard to do this. I think you're being a little disingenuous because even though Mitch predates John, John's fourth grade report card predates Mitch, and on his report card it said that John asks

penetrating questions. So he's the OG. Now Adam, people always say that on this show everyone agrees with each other. It's the agree with each other show. But you're fucking wrong. It was fifth grade. It was the fifth grade report card. You're right. And I'm disappointed in your knowledge of the dabble verse.

And it was interesting and penetrating questions. I thought you were studying this shit. No, I know. In John's mind, he was hired because of this thing that he does where he asks these crazy questions of people. And it turns out that was not the case at all. This was just a bit that they did on the Howard Stern Show. And we'll get to that in a second. But I love that Mitch actually set up John to fail. It turns out this is a very funny tidbit. That's what it was.

And you were upset that you had to leave and you even went and called your friend at NYU named Stuttering John. Well, there was a guy at the, yeah, and I actually had to apologize to Stuttering John because I think I did something bad to him when he first started because he first Started and he said to me not if you remember I Wrote this funny song for Howard and it calls him a Jew boy and and I said well Howard I love that And he played it I remember listening that day and you're going what the hell do you The line was poor little Jew boy thought he was a coon.

It's the actual line. I love that because we've played on this show, maybe it was a bonus show, I can't remember, when Howard first reacted to John's song that he thought would be the theme song to the Howard Stern show and Howard's going what the hell is this? Why would you think I'd like this? This is racist? this is not funny and I love that John passed that past Mitch Faitella went yeah yeah he'll like it like that that's gonna be good it's hilarious he hooked up John with the internship and then screwed him over

with his advice very funny story now, going back to what you were saying about the report card and the penetrating questions and John taking credit for this act that he had, even though he had nothing to do with that, this is the thing that John hates to hear the most. This is, remember, we're going to get back to this interview. But remember, John's like, I was one of the OGs. I am am the guy when you think about the Howard Stern show My name has to be involved in that because Mitch felt felt so bad about leaving us so quickly and he wanted to help us You know and I said placement and Mitch was all weird about the starting point He's like listen, you know the guy stutters, but it really won't affect his job at all I walk by and I go and do that here's better. I go you said you said there's a guy who stutters

I don't need to interview me John's still offended by that by the by the way that you said hire him before I ever met him absolutely That's that's that's the truth. I love that. How funny is that right there? You know John's still offended that you say you hired him sight on see just cuz he stutters hearts like yeah Well, that's why that's why we hired him and for John to take all this credit For being part of the core of the Howard Stern show and literally he was just an intern who overstayed his welcome and It shows you how? Backwards wired his mind is instead of being grateful going my god my stutter actually caused something positive

He's resentful for it, right? He thinks he deserved more and better Yeah, what did what did he think of your writing sample, John? Did you just give him one? No, you didn't. So what the fuck is he supposed to go on? Yeah, you were not hired because you were talented or funny or interesting or anything. You just had a speech impediment. And if you wanted to actually inspire stutterers at that convention that you were the keynote

speaker of, you would tell that story like at my worst when I was feeling the Worst I managed to channel it into Work acting and make good of this horrible situation I turned my stutter into a positive by being proud of it and not hiding with it But just sharing it you motherfucker instead all you feel is the negative For not being accepted as a writer when you haven't even written anything yet. Even with this interview that he does with Nick, he constantly has to say, I was a writer

on the Howard Stern. I was a writer. He was a call screener slash stunt boy. And we've been over it many times, I won't get into it too far, but we had Casey Armstrong on the show, producer for the Howard Stern Show, who told us John was not in the writing meetings, he wasn't even a part of the software we use to write bits. He had nothing to do with any of it.

All right, so let's get back to this interview they did with Primal Scream. And they're talking about, Nick asked him, were there any questions that were written for you that you felt you shouldn't ask a celebrity and so John has some examples here a time when I had to interview Kathy Lee Gifford and she was with Frank Gifford and the kids were there so I wouldn't so I wouldn't do I wouldn't insult their parents to the kids I felt that this nice man like in

fact when there's this fucking guy when I'm pulling you know I'm banging a left to come you know on the road that's leading up to Governor's off of Division Avenue over there yeah so coming off of Hempstead Turnpike and there's this fat fuck and he's with his fat fuck kid and they're walking you know and I'm you know and I'm parked out and I'm parked a little far out and I took down the crosswalk and the guy you know, he's no problem You could get by me and he's walking by me and he can't resist open his fat fucking mouth to say something and And I was gonna roll down my way to go shut up your fat fuck and then I and then I was like got a kids day I can't do that. No, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna insult the guys farm and you know, I I'm not gonna do that. It's just, you

know, like people don't like it's like, I would never say something so insulting. Like I would never say you were part of the whack pack or anything. No, I wouldn't. He had to bring it back to that again. He nonstop teases Nick about this whack back comment. He will not let it go. Just in case anybody thought for a second that he had learned anything from the Chrissy Mayer interview, which he claims he learned. And if he would have done it again, he wouldn't have overreacted.

Here he is doing the exact same thing again. How interesting is that clip though? So he goes, if you ever do do you know, I give you questions You don't want to ask you that one time, you know Kathy Lee Gifford and the kids there and that reminds me just on my way over here There was a fat fuck who says I'm a cheerleader wanted to tell him off but his kid was there else I would have really given him the business There's a lot of hostility in this man. Yeah, that's a weird anecdote to throw out there where some guys just like hey, buddy

You're parked right in the crosswalk and John wanted to roll down his window and tell him what for He doesn't know who he is so he doesn't know if he's supposed to be the nice guy or the tough guy Right he's telling a story so he decides to be both Yeah, I was ready to murder this asshole, but his kid was there, so I decided not to. Thanks. Congratulations. And you can tell this host to spend a little bit of time with him because he has the same way of dealing with John that anybody does who spends too much time, which is he's afraid of him. He's been with him long enough. I was like, wow, it's the guy from the show I liked, and he's telling me all these great stories, and we're drinking beers. This is amazing. But the guy said one wrong thing at some point or did something wrong. And he saw John snap and do that whack packer bit. And he went, oh, fuck, there's another side. And then every other moment you see from these people, you see it from his co host is just I don't want that to happen again. How do I prevent that from happening? So they're over complimentary and that doesn't help and

they try and they try and they try but there's nothing you can do. He's a horrible person who's using you so he doesn't give a shit. That sets up this next clip perfectly because you can see that Nick is feeling so bad because he just got berated by John. I didn't play all of it but we put on the last show we put some of it here where John's just like very upset that he was called a whack packer. And so Nick's just like, he's like stumbling. He's like, oh man, I didn't mean it, man. Right.

He's not part of the whack pack either. No, no. I can't believe it. Now all my friends are gonna laugh at me that I insulted Stuttering John. You know what? No, no, no, no, no, now trust me I don't care so he's sitting there going going oh man I fucked up this whole interview I scream out the Chris Farley

show over again damn it I screwed this whole thing up because this guy's a amateur of course but John should be the pro and I mentioned this on the last show John should be the guy who goes oh no no no I wasn't part of the whack pack. There was John the stutterer. Maybe you're, but no, I was actually, you know, on the show. I was a paid employee. And then just move on, just correct him, move on, whatever. It's that John's like, what the fuck? You think I'm a whack packer? Because John's triggered so much by that. This guy meant nothing by it. If I call John a whackackpacker, he would react the same way, because he knows I'm doing that to insult him. This guy was

not insulting him. And John can't take it in the context that was actually put out there. Because he doesn't live in that context. He has no awareness that Beetlejuice and high pitch Eric are more popular than the Howard Stern show right now. The word whack-pack is something people who don't really know about the Howard Stern show, they know that. Like, people that don't know The Grateful Dead have heard the phrase, Deadheads. So they meet Mickey Hart, the drummer, and they're like, Oh, you're with The Grateful Dead? Are you a deadhead? Mickey, they go, Come here, you fuck. Like, he's not, you a deadhead? Mickey? Come here, you fuck!

Like, he's not... He goes, no, those are the... There's just an awareness. And it's fascinating because this happened to John when they were making private parts. He expected Hollywood to know the specific details of all the relationships involved in the Howard Stern Show. They were like, you're Howard or you're in a whack pack. You go in that room or You go in that room right and John lost his mind. He's like I can't go in the whack pack room I'm not one of them. They're like well. We're making a movie about Howard and his friends Are you one of his friends or not and he doesn't know what to do or say or how to be

You know speaking wine, so I assume you're not part of this production. He's like Well, Nick is so thrown by this that he cannot get over it and it can take he continues to unravel during this interview but that's what I had to don't worry I don't care you can say whatever but no I was never in the whack back but I'm gonna give you a fucking whack after this thing I don't give a shit at this point see man I was trying to be nice but I fucked it up man I can't believe it don't worry about it don't give a shit at this point. See man. I was trying to be nice, but I fucked it up, man I can't believe it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it

You didn't fuck up it's all good. So What else did I want to ask you oh he's so flustered and I feel bad for Nick right here because You know as I said John would have handled this with some grace This would not have happened But John reacted so poorly this guy's just like oh my god. I've ruined the entire interview. I fucked this You're doing me a favor. I fucked this whole thing up. My friends are gonna berate me Julie's gonna reach out want me on point dabble points and uncle Rico shows. This is a disaster What's going on and

Too little too late John goes. No, I don't care. It's not a big deal. Oh, that's way too little way too late You've already let him know. It's a big deal and you're pissed How many times did you just bring it up? It's the guys big interview, you know and Because John is impossible to work with, he refuses to riff. You talking to him throws him off, so he resents you even making a sound. He can't turn it into a bit. The guy's trying to do a little bit. He's trying to make it cool again, and you can't even help him with that. You're the worst person to interview or improv with.

This is not your medium, John. He's not a professional. And he's big- this guy probably done more podcast and why are they sitting on high chairs? Why are they sitting like like someone's about to give them a meal on a tray? I was gonna say I don't think I could get up out of a regular chair Makes a big boy Wow yeah, why is John's aren't they look like marionettes from that Christmas thing they play that old? What are they doing John's arms have gotten longer as he's been shrinking right? He's been shrinking down his arms are staying the same size and it's disproportionate Mm-hmm. It's fun to watch. All right. So now let's get into

John's glory days because the last episode we talked all about the battle of the bands in high school and I was amazed by those stories because I had never heard them before. He was making up brand new stories about guillotines and pig's blood and coffins and bikini seniors in high school girls and all these crazy things no one's ever heard before. In fact, when I went on Drew Lane's show yesterday, Drew insisted I bring those clips again. He's like, you've got to play these clips on the show. It's incredible. And it is. I could talk about it all day. And I couldn't believe he spent 20 minutes of the show talking about high school, considering

he did get a record deal and he did go on tour. So finally we get to he's going to he's always trying to impress this podcaster. So now he's going to try to impress him with some of the names and the bands that he opened up with. And of course they had a long conversation in that car ride back to Long Island where John drank eight beers in the back of the car after ChillerCon. And so they've already had the pre-interview here. Nick knows a lot about this. I didn't realize you opened up for crew when Karabi was the lead singer, right? Yes. Dude, I fucking love that album. Well it's weird because Type O Negative also

opened up. Yes, great band. Yeah and I hung out with Pete Steele. Mmm, drop! What a weird way to react to that. First off, Nick is being so generous. Oh, I didn't realize you opened for Miley Crew when John Carrabbi was the singer. That was the worst era of Miley Crew. I believe I watched the documentary, where they all went, yeah, we didn't know what the fuck was going on.

No one was coming to our shows anymore. It was a disaster. Grunge was here. Miley Crew was here. Their singer left the pad. Like. It was a disaster Grunge was here motley crew was here their singer left the pad like it was a disaster And Nick is so nice like oh my gosh John karate crew. Are you kidding me? I would love to see that Nobody wanted to see that that was garbage. You got to see Van Halen with David Lee Roth. No with Sammy Hagar. No the guy from Extreme? Yeah. Gary Sharone. My first Van Halen concert was Gary Sharone Van Halen. There it is. I'll never forget it. Oh god, so bad.

The idea that John would sit there and just be like, well, you know what the weird thing about that is the typo negative was also opening. What? So you just wanted to name drop a few more things, I guess? That was the reason for, cause yeah, there's other bands. And by the way, it also shows you that John's band was before anyone got to the venue. Cause I've been to these arena shows and this might've been theaters at this point

for Molly Crew. But there's a band that plays before the bands that you've heard of. And everyone goes, doors at seven? I'll get there at nine. Yeah. That's how that works. Yep. And very much like our friend Carmix, John has these tells. He always says, you know what's weird? Or you know what's funny when he wants to name drop? And the name drop is neither weird or funny it's just a name drop

there's nothing weird about typo negative also being on the bill you know what's cool do you know what makes me look cool these cool people are also there yeah all right never goes anywhere and this happens over and over again let's talk about ozzy i gotta say I mean I opened up for everybody I was on Ozzy at Jones Beach which is not was that the dysfunctional picnic yeah which is not too shabby for a whack packer I opened up for I gotta say that's a career high yeah he has to get another dig in and Nick he's not he's not letting this go and then the made sale for Ozzy as a whack packer John. He didn't know what whack packer meant He wasn't trying to insult you he told you that multiple times

Carl he doesn't care doesn't care He wants a big time this guy make him feel bad, and he's it's working this guy feels very bad about it He's said that out loud He feels like he's ruining the interview and John won't let him off the hook. You know, going back to the Chris Farley show reference, do you remember how Paul McCartney handled that? I mean, it's a skit, but still, Paul McCartney's like, oh, you're doing great, man. Don't worry about it. Come on, come on. You're fine. You're fine. Like that's how a professional would handle something like that. Like they've signed up for this interview. They're going to

try to make it as good as it can be. Josh is like, ah fuck you, I'm gonna bury you now. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure you feel terrible about this. This guy's a musician. He has a band. He plays bass, I think. You can talk to him like an equal or like a fellow musician. You don't have to talk to him like someone who's never heard of Ozzy Osbourne or doesn't know the song Paranoid, so you have to sing it to him BLEH BLEH BLEH That was my favorite part when he starts singing the riff You know the song Paranoid? Like yeah Yeah

I do Yeah And what is he supposed to do while he's singing the riff? What are you supposed to do as a host while they're doing that? I don't know And he's also like putting his hand over and touching the guy Like dude remember this? And be like BLEH BLEH

And he's like Yeah putting his hand over and touching the guy like do you remember this and be like play play it He's like Yeah, man. It's fucking uncomfortable. Stop doing that. I Named this next clip John's a name-dropping son of a bitch. I opened up for white zombie and Green Day and Ted Nugent across the country and You know, I mean, you know, in my MTV video, I'll talk my way out of it. I had Sting and Gene Simmons and you know, Betancourt. Just watching it.

Yeah. I mean, Grandpa Allen, Barry Williams, Greg Brady and Gilbert Godfrey, the late great Gilbert Godfrey. So I mean, it's like, it's weird because you don't like it's it's What I love about that is that John is just bragging and name dropping and then he realizes there's no way to end this brag session eloquently so it goes to his go-to, you know, and it's weird because You know go to, you know, and it's weird because, you know, God damn, why did I just drop all those

names just now? And it was everyone he could muster. Every name he could think of came out of him just now. It's funny. It's funny. It's weird. It's funny. It's weird and funny.

Because he's trying to impress this guy. And it's weird that John would feel the need to show this guy that he's a get. He should realize that and act like he's been there before. If I can sum up, considering John Melendez, he never acts like he's been there before. He's constantly doing a touchdown dance. Sometimes he got tackled at the fore, but he's still doing a touchdown dance. Like John, act like you've been there before buddy Even in this video at the very start while the guys doing his introduction and John has to wait The guys doing his bit and John has this look on his face. Like what are you doing? Like this is so weird

Why are you calling your audience names and having a set intro while I sit here like he can't do anything correctly. Yeah the other thing that's bizarre about this interview and I did watch blind Mike talk about this so it's not because I saw him talk about this we just both picked up on the same thing. John's not answering questions. The interviewer didn't say, who have you opened for on the road? Who have you met? What's like, give me some names. That's amazing. You had such a career.

John's offering all of this stuff up out of nowhere. Not even being asked about it. He's just like, yeah, I mean, it's weird. Ozzy and Stone Temple Pilots. Just throwing out all this shit. Just like, ugh. And then he gets into throwing out all this shit, just like, uh, and then he gets into this bragging loop that he can't get himself out of. It's odd cause even at Chillicon, like people come up with albums, they come up with books,

they come up with all different things for me to sign. And it's just like you go and then you think, well, wow, like, Jesus, well, I mean my, you know, I thought Boy Out of It was the single for my album, but Airheads also wanted it to be their single. So, and it ended up going to, it ended up going to Motahead because Atlantic wanted it as my single. Yeah.

But I hung out with Lemmy and Chris Farley and Adam Sandler. How's hanging with Farley? This is just, John's just doing his own show. This guy's not asking any questions. He's just, this is my life stuttering John. Oh and it's weird because I hung out with Lemmy and I did this thing and that thing and everyone wanted my song and we didn't know where to put out the single and everything was so great. So finally you just heard right there a question How was hanging with Farley? The guy hears a name and he goes I love Chris Farley. What was that like?

What was the experience hanging out with Chris Farley? and I can't wait to hear John's answer because I've never heard him ask this question before and I would also to know, what was it like hanging out with Chris Farley? Steve Buscemi, what's that? I was hanging with Foley. Great, I mean, it was just like I was one of the gang. You know, that's one of the things that you don't like. And on the Tonight Show, with those cold opens,

I got to direct Adam Sandler and Jack Black and David Spade and like, you know, Charlie She Sheen Charles Sheen invited me to a Super Bowl party What just happened? How was hanging with Chris Farley? I Got invited to Charlie Sheen Super Bowl party That was the answer It's even worse than that. The guy's saying what was Chris Chris Farley like? And he's saying, I was just like one of the guys. He liked me. Yep.

You know what's great about Chris Farley is that he liked me. And that defines him. Yeah, that's not the question at all. And I want to point something out here that does not go unnoticed. John's stories about high school are so elaborate. He talks about going to the butcher to get the pig's blood and then setting up the trap door to get the guillotine and the head chopped off and then spraying the audience and then what song they played and how the riff went and then with the

songs after that and knows the set listener remembers the tunes and how people reacted to it and how much money he made. Everything is detailed and specific. What was it like hanging out with Chris Farley? I also know Adam Sandler and I also saw Charlie Sheen. I was on the Tonight Show. There's no stories there. And I have a theory, Adam. If it's not integrity verification, you're full of shit. That's the only I Think the high school stories are all made up How did and no one's gonna call about it?

But if you were to go out and just be like yeah Charlie Sheen and I were doing blow on his piano It's grand piano during the Super Bowl Someone might be like hey Charlie Sheen John said this thing happened You know like you can't make shit up about people who are well known. But you can make shit up about the hottest girl in high school. Like he likes to brag about banging that centerfold, but he only brags about the one who has passed away. And he says the name, but she's dead. So he can say that I've've got other hot chicks too, but he doesn't say that. Like he never elaborates on things because he knows that he's lying about.

Like there's no, there's nothing there. There's nothing to it. And he believes in the almighty potato that is constantly behind him and going to fact check anything he says. And that potato is on his mind when he says those things, which is is and he reveals that later on when he tries to correct himself about who won the battle of the bands Yeah, well that was the funny thing too I never said this because I played that clip on WTP and true lane where he where they go Oh, well, you won the battle of bands, right? He's like, well, they didn't pick a winner after all of those lies where you just like yeah We won the battle of the vets. Yeah.. Well he hears himself say that and then doubles down

which is amazing he goes well they didn't announce the winner but and he heard that he's like wow I can't not have won after all of that so and he goes you hear the fantasy he goes yeah I mean I was rubbing it into all the other bands you know because every high school has like a dozen bands there's always like too many bands. I rubbed it in the faces how sick my solos were and how girl they were. Yep. You know, as an expert who I played in a battle of the bands in my high school on Long Island. Beautiful.

Now, so you have some experience with this. Direct experience, real life experience on this topic we're talking about. Howard Stern even mentions my high school in the first paragraph of Private Parts. So there's my credibility. We and this was really badass. We said we were gonna play one song and then we played another Brick in the Wall by Pink Floyd. Oh, we don't need no education.

You let that school know uh-huh it was uh Badass can I tell you something to do chills? I'm gonna tell you this I Did the I did almost the same thing Motherfucker in high school, and there's video of this. I'm teasing that I might put it out at some point I was in a talent show where my high school band played and I was in a talent show where my high school band played and We said we were gonna play porch by Pearl Jam and we did and then we went into rate me by Nirvana We didn't tell any of the teachers

Did not we didn't tell any of the teachers were gonna do that and we got a circle mosh pit going in the auditorium As we were playing the Nirvana and I remember afterwards someone's like I don't know you're gonna play that song one of the teachers There's someone we didn't get any trouble. It didn't matter. No one cared How much were you paid for that gig? How much were you paid? Exactly zero dollars. Yeah, I made zero dollars So much you get paid to perform in high school But I just want to take this a step further because what the story the stories we both just told her are very cringy and awful and embarrassing

but We didn't claim to have written those songs. Nope, and there is I know I'm back There's a movie where this kid plays a pink Floyd song He plays like wish you were here at the talent show and it goes over really well and the principal's like wait a second That's a pink Floyd song He said this was an original and he talks to him about it and he realizes the kid is Delusional and not okay. He says to him you didn't write that song the kid says yeah, but I could have The principal realizes who he's dealing with this man says to John

Oh, you did the Alice Cooper thing you did the big Alice Cooper bit if this really happened as a high school kid Sean would say yeah, we were the big Alice Cooper bit if this really happened as a high school kid Sean would say yeah We were the biggest Alice Cooper fan, so we ripped it off, and we did the whole Alice Cooper thing It was so cool Maybe I'd believe it the fact that he says here Alice who he did what oh? I didn't know that anyway back to the pigs, but I got six quarts for 495 from Santa But really it's what it's the funniest part if you haven't watched the most recent WTP segment about this, it's the funniest part where John explains exactly Alice Cooper's show, a thing that everyone

knows about, that was 10 years before this talent show, or Battle of the Bands. And Nick just goes, oh yeah, Alice Cooper did that. John goes, oh he did? I don't know. Anyway. It makes him look way, I love that Nick said that. Nick just goes oh yeah else Cooper did that John goes. Oh he did I don't know anyway It makes them look way I love that Nick said that it's so funny Maybe that's why he's performing on the brick in the wall. He wrote it. Maybe that's why John Crushed him on the whack pack thing because he was probably buttered about that and he wanted to exact his revenge

It's a theory just a quiet fun theory. I'm throwing out there. I don't know. We'll probably do some more episodes about it and then we'll lay it to rest. There's no pleasing John. If this guy devoted his whole day to making his ego feel good, you can't fill John's ego. It can't be done. Well this is a thing that John gets into in all these interviews when he's when he's being very braggadocious. He's talking about how amazing his career is. he has to take a step back and look back at all the things that he's accomplished. I had beers at the whiskey bar with hanging out with Matt Damon, George Clooney comes

up to me and says, you know, and starts talking to me like it's like, you know, Jennifer Aniston comes up to me when you know, like when we did the Tonight Show with friends and you know, it's like you know Jennifer Aniston comes up to me when you know like when we did the tonight show with friends and you know it's like it's just such a char... Jerry Seinfeld comes up to me he's also from Mass of People so it's like one of those things that you know it's it's like like it's such a surreal life you know. Yeah it is. The thing that's surreal is that a man with no talent was in show business and got to talk to talented artists all the time. That doesn't happen very often. And so when he says it's a surreal life, it is a surreal life because George Clooney isn't on a show going, oh my God, I had a conversation with Jennifer Aniston and, and oh my God, Seinfeld came out to me.

George Clooney belongs so he doesn't talk like this and even that story where he goes, oh my gosh, I'm at the whiskey bar drinking a beer and Matt Damon's there and he says anyway, we're talking he has no stories. He has nothing There's like this is the worst anecdotes possible Just name-dropping people Asked me specifically a lot about politics in Hollywood and if you get you know influenced to believe a certain thing politically. Yeah, do you Adam? I don't. I don't. But what John's doing right now, I do. This happens when you live here. Celebrities get projects made. They just do. If you

can guarantee this celebrity will be there, the money shows up. So when you say their name, the heads turn. And if you live in LA too long, you start to think the rest of the world is like that. When you leave LA and the end of your story is, and Matt Damon was there, and everyone on Long Island is like, end. And you don't have anything else, you stop telling those stories, and you realize. Or I had a friend from Long Island that asked me, he goes, hey, man, I love visiting you in LA.

But when we go out, can you stop introducing me to people is what I do. Oh, I'll just say. Yeah, you're right. I thought I was being a nice guy. He works in sound. This is a sound guy. Don't you guys want to?

He does. But that's just an LA thing. And you're being a douchebag. I just want to be me. And he was right. John has no friends to tell him this. He has no sober experiences to learn these lessons from. So he doesn't understand that it's cool, but it's not, we don't give a shit. It's not a story that Jennifer Aniston was there, unless something interesting happens. It's very interesting that John has learned no lessons. He's been alive for 60 years, and hasn't realized that we're not impressed.

You were on The Tonight Show. I imagine you've met every A-list celebrity. I would assume you have. I'm frankly shocked that you haven't turned that into anything. I know you live near the Kardashians, and they were at your New Year's Eve party How have you not turned that into something more for yourself now now you live in Cape Coral They shithole according to some people The fuck would live there who the fuck would buy a house in Cape Coral or they what are you thinking with that?

So then John because he's always up in his own head, and even when he's on these other shows, he's thinking about Shuley. And so he just throws out a comment. But then again, then we go back to that kid sitting in the picnic chair. Selling the... Selling, you know, it's just always hustling, you know? And that's who, you know, that's who I am. Like, oh good. I don't fucking drop out of high school. Like some of these losers, I don't fuck it. You know, I go, you know, I got, I told you what a gold distinctive

effort thing. I was fighting a battle with Bob Levy right now. How did this happen? He was just talking about hanging out with Ben Affleck or whoever He's throwing out all these a-list names and you know before that he was on tour with all these bands He's throwing out all this shit, and they're just like and you know who's a real losers the shit way What? He's arguing with somebody in his head. Whenever he says these proud accomplishments, he acts like he's saying it to someone who doesn't believe him.

Even when the person's like, amazing. Oh, you're amazing. All he hears and sees is pushback. So he's arguing with this guy who can't agree enough. Right, it's never enough. The gold certificate, he brought that back again, too. It's at the point now, Adam, where why am I even here? You know what I mean? Like I can just play Stunnery John

and it's, everyone can come to their own conclusions. We all get it. This guy is retarded. This guy's a pathetic idiot. It's incredible how bad he is at life. All right, let's move on. John decides he gets an opportunity to insult his host Nick here. He decides that he's above that. He's not going to do it. I am. I'm part of the Wack Pack.

I can make a joke there, but I won't insult you. Do you know what the joke he wants to make is? Adam, I bet you could predict that. Please tell me. He wants to call him a fat fuck. What? He wants to call Nick a fat fuck. When, you know, he does a self-deprecating thing

Nick does to the host, he's just like, yeah, you know, I'm a whack-packer, obviously. And John's like, oh my gosh, I'd love to talk about your weight right now. But you gave me a ride home from Chiller Con, and you've been nice to me, so I guess I won't." He's like, no go ahead and make a joke. He's just like, well it's not a great joke it's just the words fat fuck. It's the joke I wanted to make. Yeah he doesn't actually have a joke he just has

two words that sound funny together to say. He's just hoping he can insult him. He wants to say it so badly too. He's like, oh It's all I want to do He did this before earlier when he talked about what he wanted to say to that person crossing the street But didn't well as long as you have the feelings and you tell us about it Yeah, you don't get credit for not doing it, correct. You still let him know you want to hurt his feelings. You don't get points for not doing it you ready for hurt his feelings you don't get the points for not doing it you ready for braggadocious John's one of my favorite versions of something new of stuttering John oh no I'm not here to insult you Nick you were nice enough to drive us

all the way back I had a nice drive that day I did too as long as it was beer I didn't give a shit and you gotta admit I drank what eight beers on the way home see yeah did I even seem to Ted bid any bread home? See? Yeah. Did I even seem to have a tad bit of an E-Bread? Not at all. And did I even have to take a piss at all? No. Yeah, that's right, man. My liver and bladder are trained. That's from years and years of practice.

No one told me there was going to be boasting. Why does a 60-year-old man feel compelled to talk about how many beers he drank in a car? right home He thinks this is bragging. I think so Am I wrong? Adam what is going on here a lot of alcoholics feel shame Yeah, you know you think you'd be like, I don't tell him about my drinking on the way home if you don't mind Yeah, let's keep that or they pour it like a different cup or something'd be like, don't tell them about my drinking on the way home if you don't mind. Yeah.

Let's keep that, or they'd pour it in like a different cup or something and be like, ah, yeah, and I'm just having a Coca-Cola. Look at me, my Coke. I keep thinking about, because I'm lonely, I keep thinking about when they left the con, you know, and Grillo said, hey, me too, and John had to say, oh, fuck, I showed up with this guy,

can you give him a ride home too? and then John had to tell the guy not only we're going to Long Island from Jersey? But you got to stop at a open liquor store right now Any kind of pushback about that? When John turned on him you know right and and and really and that's what that guy's afraid of like this was not a joyous ride home This was like a hostage situation Did this guy buy John the 12-pack did John offer any gas money? These no gas money for sure why you know I we talked about this a point dabble point surely reached out to Nick To try to get him on the show

Nick has declined is only part of the dabble verse verse But I have a lot of questions about that right home This would be fascinating to get him on the show to talk to him That fat fuck When he come on W ATP oh Because John scared him yeah for sure cuz John scared him and he met a guy and now that's gonna go away He got a big by the way. This is going to be the biggest numbers on Demon roar whatever this is demon scar That he's ever had and on it John berates him for calling him a whack-packer

The guy tries to turn it around and make it cool John refuses to make it cool And now this is what's happening. He wants to keep his Hollywood connection He doesn't know and I have one more clip for us today and Again, we have not gotten through all of this episode You know how I am I have to clip everything I find everything fascinating so I have already pulled out 40 clips we're gonna have 40 more probably Continuing on at hackamania this week at a commedia nicecom promo code WTP to stream it. But I wanted to

leave us on an up note. I wanted to leave us with something that would maybe give us a big belly laugh. I think that's a good way to end a Settling John segment. In fact, the guy that came with me to get the butcher blood for the guillotine bit, his name was Mac Turu. He was my buddy from Nassau Community College. Now I didn't know this, but two or three days after 9-11, I get an email, and of course I had AOL, which is embarrassing in its own.

This guy was goofing on me about having a well. I said dude you goofed me one more time I'm gonna delete you from my myspace account, but anyway Adam I don't see you laughing every is the audio coming through could you hear the clip I don't I Don't feel good anymore. I Want to go home was having an aol email embarrassing in 2001 It wasn't I'll answer for you. It was that aol was a very big company. They just merged with Time Warner It was a big internet company in 2001 so All right moving on

But but but this Disposed so I get this email from this From this woman she goes John John I just want you to know and she shows me a little girl a little cute blonde girl and she says uh... Mac was a flight attendant on one of the planes that went in. Oh Jesus Christ. And I was I just I you know I had tears in my eyes because Mac his real name was Michael Tarue and he was the sweetest

guy in the world and we would smoke pot and just hang out at NASA community and he was such a sweet soul and it just you know to leave behind his daughter was so sad. Yeah man. Good stuff. I hope his daughter got to hear that loving tribute for him. I hope she got to you know get to know her father a little bit through John there that was beautiful. I have some questions about this Adam first off Why would the widow send a photo of the daughter to John three days or 9-eleven? When her husband had just gotten to the World Trade Center

That's a weird thing to do right? I Don't believe that it doesn't make any sense. There's just no way to be like hey John You want to feel as sad as I am check this out. This is our daughter No longer has a dad and she's cute. You know it wouldn't have been as heart-wrenching if she was you know She's a mongolite who cares yeah, but also the other part about that. I want to back this up because John references the pigs blood which we talked about the last segment because John got the pigs blood for, which we talked about in the last segment, because John got the pig's blood for the Battle of the Bands in high school. Right?

Listen to this. The guy that came with me to get the butcher blood, to get the butcher blood for the guillotine bit, his name was Mac Turu. He was my buddy from Nassau Community College. Why would his buddy from community college oh my god yeah go with John to get the high school battle the bands prop I'm seeing some holes in this story Adam he saw this from a movie called once bitten twice shy with Jim Carrey okay and was a big Alice Cooper fan growing up and created this whole story.

And it's fine. What's embarrassing is that he doesn't think we'll realize that. That's hilarious. I just I couldn't believe that entire story. None of that made sense because I guess they were driving, you know, past New York City, past Manhattan and looking at the skyline and he's like dude you were there for 9-eleven and John told these stories to him in the car And then he got to go on and retell these stories these lies of the guy if he's seen swordfish Did not come up hey look who's here my friend Cardiff electric. What's up, Cardiff?

Hello Good to see you. Who better walk the other way if they see me at hack a main. Oh, I will see you at hack a mania Do you? Walk the other way I Love that. I love that Adam's gonna be playing the guest Cardiff game the first few hours that hack a mania Yeah, which one? That's right everybody's a crap this card if dude. I don't know if you know this this is all been an elaborate thing Adam just wants to dox you he doesn't care about W ATP doesn't want to be at these live shows

He's just gonna get a photo of you and sell it to the highest bidder Onsen you don't think I have access to many cameras. You don't think I I can I know you have access to many penises ah Shots fire personal that's fired. I'm gonna duke it out Carter thanks for helping out. I haven't seen you in a minute. Good to see it, buddy. I look forward to uh, I know Yeah, you're looking forward to Hackamania. Yeah Gonna go buy my plane ticket right now soon as the show's over And I'll be there in the morning might be too late for that my friend think ah you'll be fine

Are you still doing a podcast cardiff? How's it going? You still doing one? Shot yes, it will be back. It will be back next week Just do a tookie soup tonight special I mean your pre show tonight Nine o'clock so as soon as you're done watching here head over to be dabbling live the dabbler Very good. Yeah, I'll be back on schedule Mid-may everything will be back to normal take your time. Take it Thursday night. No hurry wanting more car that's what I always say And just a reminder programming note w ATS who are the socials will be on at noon Eastern time tomorrow on the hurries podcast channel because I am also flying to Vegas tomorrow.

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Playing two minutes with Tom. My father's here tonight, so he's sitting right back there. He's watching my television, my cable television debut. I've already had a network TV debut. I was on the Fox 45 Morning News. They were interviewing me about my comedy. And that's pretty great, right? I mean, you're on TV being interviewed.

I love that guy to laugh. I've already done network television. I was on the Fox 45. I was like, ha ha ha. Oh, he's serious. Oh, shit. Okay. That's great. I'm good for you Television my cable television debut. I've already had a network TV debut. I was on the Fox 45 morning news

They were interviewing me about my comedy and That's pretty great, right? I mean you're on TV being interviewed about something you love and when you're on television You want to go ahead and call everybody you know you want to call your family you call your friends I go ahead and give my dad a call I tell him hey dad guess what I'm gonna be on the Fox 45 morning news they're gonna interview me about my comedy you got to check it out first words out of my dad's mouth were what did Tom say next you're your choices number Fox, everything they say is garbage. Call me when you're on NBC.

B, what channel does it come on? Next, can you do tomorrow instead? I'm busy tonight. for Who is this? and lastly I Gave at the office two minutes All right first off cardiff you are fighting some gems. I don't know how you're fighting this whole tom Myers Reels, but that's fantastic. I go to YouTube I type in Tom Myers, and I search I sort by lowest amount of views 147 well that we know the method behind it so great Secondly because I haven't talked to you in a little bit you do realize I've won two in a row of this game, right? Yes, how do you know there's no way you can win three in a row using the same?

I'm not gonna use that technique anymore, but I won't that I figured you out all right now that we've cleared those two things up I Think I think it's gonna be be what channel does it come on? That seems like a stupid Tom Myers joke it could be a couple of other ones. I like to what do you think Adam? Yeah, I'm going with one. I think cuz it's it's wordy. It suits his politics and it's not funny He doesn't like to be political on stage or people saying in the chat. I see four lastly next next lastly be all in on four.

Who is this? It seems to be a common one because that'd be an easy joke for him to make. All right, let's find out. Hey, Dad, guess what? I'm going to be on the Fox 45 Morning News. They're going to interview me about my comedy. You got to check it out. First words out of my dad's mouth were

Well what channel does it come on? Fuck yeah, that's three in a row baby Yes, I don't normally gloat off this show, but wow I'm'm impressive. I'm amazing. Mr. Chris isn't here to see this. Let me double check that one for you, Dad. Right after I beat my head against the wall about 25 times, having come to the realization that my gene pool just might need a chlorine treatment. Might be overdue for one.

This episode is brought to you by Hackamania.com. chlorine treatment. Might be overdue for one. that because I'm tired of saying hackamania.com please just go there and use promo code com fuck you all see you at Vegas I shouldn't have said fuck you all should I no cut that part of mixed messages sit Eugene sit good dog oh I'm excited to say that hackamania will bring the return of who said it to w80. Yes. We already have the game I'm excited about that Thank You Cardiff You make the best game shows and all of the dabble verse no one can deny that That is track Jack, that's a fact Jack

That's very true. Well well what have we done Aaron Imholdt would you like to let us all know how much you pay Cardiff each episode for these games yeah it's a great question Adam thank you for asking go ahead Carl zero dollars oh let me convert that to Canadian oh zero Canadian dollars actually no no actually converted to Canadian. It's rather handsome handsome amount of dollars Well you deserve it Card if I'm sure you're all wrapped up and what the maple leafs are doing you're very excited about their Stanley Cup run Right now you're probably

They won their second series in 30 years Yeah, they won their second series in 30 years. Congrats. I'm not getting excited yet. Oh, I didn't think you cared about hockey. I do. I'm in and out. All right. Fair enough.

Cubs lost today. I don't want to talk about it. What have we done today? We've done it all. We talked about Jim Norton saying that our show was cool. We talked about Karmic, the new correspondent for the Steel Toe morning show. Another episode of as the wheelchair spins, quad father trying to spin things as only he can do. We learned about what kind of porn Jake jerks off to. Primal Scream with Stuttering John. I won for the third time in a row, two minutes of time.

You know what that means. It's time for everyone's favorite part of the show. The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser.

The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. Coming up on the next episode of Who Are These Podcasts, it's Hackamania, hackamania.com is where you want to go to stream it. We're going to have the entire crew in Las Vegas. Who's going to get blackout drunk? Will it be Trucker Andy or Trucker Andy? I don't know. I've only been to a handful of live

shows, so I can't tell you who's going to get blackout drunk before the show and then vomit on the way back to Rochester. It could be anyone. But tune in. And Byrne shit on him too. And Byrne shit on him and all the things happen to Chuck Redd. He's a delightful man to travel with. So looking forward to that. Hopefully you're going to be in Vegas with us.

We'll be hanging out all weekend long at some hotel and casino in downtown Las Vegas. I know I should know what hotel that is. Parts unknown. Parts unknown. You know what I am excited about? The fact that we'll be in the exact same venue the entire time. So everyone who's staying at the hotel will also be going to the venue that they're performing and Which hotel is that?

Whatever it is. It's gonna be so much better than last year. We had to take cabs down to the sketchy part of Las Vegas Which people don't know this but Vegas has some like areas that are not great Hmm unless you've watched the show cops before you don't know that some of the areas in Vegas are a little sketchy all right you guys John took us on a tour this time last year Annie had a bail Annie sent us in the private chat and something came up and she had a to

run but before we all tune in to tookie soup at nine o'clock on the bedabler it's YouTube channel I want to hear some voicemails yes me too oh I've been to all three live shows in Detroit me and my buddy Teabes I want to come to Vegas but I just got back from Cuba and Florida and then I got to go camping with the girlfriend's family next month I just I'm taking a lot of time off. So I'm gonna stream it but I had a question about that Do I have to watch W ATP if I buy the streaming or can I just watch the good shows? Just one other father, you know, he starts by buttering me up came to all the Detroit shows. I thought he was a fan

You know, he starts by buttering me up came to all the Detroit shows. I thought he was a fan You don't essentially you can turn off the stream right after tookie soup with card of electric Yeah, you don't have to watch nothing happening any of the shows But you do have to watch weird medicine with dr. C Yes, the final. Yes, that's gonna be that's gonna be a big one. That's gonna be important Did you guys know that I use the wrong word sometimes Hey Carl you are an intelligent articulate fellow who chooses his words carefully So I know you won't get defensive when I tell you that you fucked up on a recent episode and previous to that When you used the phrase home in

on a recent episode and previous to that when you used the phrase hone in. When what you mean to say is home in, you home in on a subject, you home in on a target. Homing pigeon, homing beacon, not hone. I cite as my source Dr. Richard Redover who mentioned this misuse in one of his books. Abbot says, the best of us were surrounded by stupid people and we have to remain vigilant. So, home in. Not to be confused with the expression horn in, which means to appropriate someone else's shit, as in the sentence, hey, these guys are horning in on my stuttering interaction to such a degree that they have scared them off the internet Please have producer Chris call me back. I'm feeling low and I need to hear a feel-better champ or attaboy Hold on hold on I'm googling this please. Yeah, cuz I had no idea. I always I was always honing

I didn't know home in No, like the example used on Miriam Webster is the missile was honing in on its target So Miriam Webster said that Miriam both Miriam and Webster Indicated that because I was like holy shit. I've always said this I always thought that was the phrase Walk back and if you've read a scripture to what do you think about this? I used to think it was Pronounced to moan, Iowa, so I'm not the guy to ask Eric Griffin's child is named Wolford

That's like a like a posh dog's name Eric Griffin's child is named Wolford? That's like a posh dog's name. What the fuck? Eric Griffin is a character. Not sure what to make of that guy. Merriam-Webster also agrees that homing, the homing, the missile was homing in on its target, so Merriam-Webster can suck a dick. So both are correct? I guess both are correct.

I'll assume I'm wrong. Hey, Ronny and Dorothy. Love you love Mitchell. Recently, on the Saturday show you guys were playing bulky, getting frustrated with super chats and blocking people and you had mentioned how he should be able to just move on. And I was listening to Anthony's show on Sunday night on WABC and he had several callers. One guy called him twice that he was not happy with and didn't feel that they contributed to the show and abruptly ended the calls and said nothing. He just disconnected the call and continued on with his show,

showing that he knows how to do it, and not so much Opie Dopey. Don't call me that. It's almost like Anthony knows how to run a show or something, even though he's out there, he's been doing radio since he was 18. This was actually the first Nopie in a while. Yes, it was a Nopie W-A-T-P episode.

I didn't think he did anything exciting in the last couple days. I did cover him on point devil point on Monday. So I felt like that was enough for us. This guy's calling me out for being bad at doing drugs. Hey, this message is for W ATP or this little piggy. Yeah, Carl, I didn't realize that you weren't good at doing drugs. You always talk about doing drugs, but you can't play the guitar on drugs. Kind of sound like a bitch. Still love you. And then also for Patrick Melton, buddy, marijuana is a schedule one drug, which means there

are no medical benefits and it's highly addictive and can be abused while cocaine is a schedule one drug which means there are no medical benefits and it's highly addictive and can be abused while cocaine is a schedule two drug. It is also highly addictive but there are medical benefits. You're quite wrong about it. The federal government doesn't know anything about drugs. Can we all agree on that? It's ridiculous. And also I've never claimed to be good at doing drugs have I? I would shit my pants on acid before. That's a true story. I'm sorry. I don't we here we're gonna I should have said that Somebody bring acid for Carl, please I was a teenager. I don't want to talk about it. But yeah, I'm not gonna teenager skateboarding

Right. Yeah, I was doing drugs But uh, yeah, i'm not good at teenagers skateboarding right yeah I was doing drugs but yeah I'm not good at smoking marijuana before rock shows it's not for like Marty McFly on acid just like that hey Carl was just catching up on Saturday's show first of all EDR is great on the show hands down no argument but I wanted to talk briefly about Opie and his whole the people in New York are awful. I lived in New York City. The thing that people hate in New York City is people who complain about New York City but still live there. Like just move Opie, just move, Opie. Just move, you're the miserable one. Opie stole a candy bar from a dead 9-11 firefighter. He's the problem, not the people trying to walk around his big feet.

All right, don't call me that. It's a good point. Opie's bitching about New York, he is the problem. Quite literally. Oh, Opie's actually calling into the show. This is cool. Oh, you know what, you people are terrible. You just I just hate your kind. I'm taking my ball and I'm going home. Good

boy. I think that actually was Opie. It's a cross between Opie and the Jerky Boys character. Yeah. Yeah, it could also been Todd Pettengill doing hopi. Calpheutographer calling in. Ah, to Calpheutographer, I cannot express the amount of shame I feel for not coming up with moolah. It's right there. So obvious and that that caller shamed me. So I didn't know the rules. So sorry. fucked up. Just fucking up all week.

Oh well, good luck to yourself. You should feel shame. I'm glad you do. Here's a question for us. Hey, so this could be who are these socials or who are these podcasts. It's a Millhouse question. His mom says that they were so poor that she had to steal clothes from the church donation box But they wear the same clothes every day. So what is she doing? Is she stealing them and selling them?

What's going on there? I'd like your insights and Even though you guys don't boast it's your your sense of knowledge is fantastic and I did watch Simpsons trivia trucker, Andy. It was entertaining. Even though everybody else hated it. I enjoyed it. And drew below. All right. Drew blows very good. I mean, I think cartoon, I don't need to explain this one to you. Hey Carl, Long Iron's here. You had a little innocuous, low-weight story about Stutto calling Vinny Paulino and asking if this is Vinny Brand. And everybody just sort of laughs, ah, Stutto's stupid.

But that highlights how genuinely lazy and stupid he is. There's four things that he could have gone through. Number one, put the last name in. Well, he's lazy. He didn't do that. Number two, I don't know how comedy clubs work, but I'm sure there was some sort of formal interaction between him and Vinny Plam.

Maybe an email, maybe a text. He could've gone through it that way. You know what I mean? And number three, why the hell didn't he just look at the area code? The entire world mocks you every day. You just take the tiniest, tiniest little bit and just look at the area code. And this is a Rochester, Vinnie Paulino has a Rochester area code.

And number four, I fucking forgot. That's it. Don't call me back. Rightly say that, people. Quadfather, I hope you're watching. I'm going to do something you're going to have a field day with. I'm going to Doc's Vinnie Paulino's area code. It's five a five.

The first three digits of Vinnie Paulino's phone number are five, eight, five, which is the Rochester area code. I pretty much just gave out his phone number. I know I had him upset with me. I mean, there's only seven more choices It's easy. Yeah, right I'm gonna have to answer to this on the Harrison Young program one day 585 000 0001

Didn't work 585 000 Moving on he's right though. It showcases how lazy he is because he knew there was a 50-50 shot and he went fuck it Yeah, there has to be communication somewhere and and John, you know, you'd think you'd have a manager or an agent booking these things He would have to make the call directly All he did was call Vinnie. That's what he did. He told the phone to call Vinnie and he crossed his fingers. It was a Siri thing, you're right BPG calling in. I mean, practice what the fuck, Carl? You had Ozzy Guy on for 20 minutes to tell me that blind Mike can't read a clock?

Oh, breaking news, breaking news! The blind guy might not be able to tell it to him. He's gonna be in the big hand or the little hand. What the fuck, Carl? Let me call the press. What the fuck's going on with this show? We actually didn't get to that today, Adam, but you were going to make a comment about Ozzy Guy. Of course, Blind Mike did a bonus show this week,

breaking down our Ozzy Guy segment for like an hour and a half. For some reason, I would have thought to it tomorrow about it on WATS. I might have to call into WATS or talk to Blind Mike directly. Blind Mike. Oh, your team OJ over there. I might have to call into w ATS or talk to blind Mike directly because land Mike No, no, no team. Oh, J. Over there No, that's not correct. He is blind Mike Geary And I believe he might be on to something based on my dealings with setting up a podcast date with Aussie guy and I got to tell you for someone who's dealt directly with Jake Hudson, he is much, much easier Shots fired!

than this Aussie guy who can't stop telling you how difficult this is for him and how his family is taking its toll on them and the time differences, it's like like this was your idea I don't know why this is so difficult for you and then he had the audacity to when I said here's what he wanted to do real quick he wanted to go against you he said I'm gonna appear on WATP and then you'll come on my show and we'll run it against Carl's show what do you say I was like I don't that's not exactly what I was looking for I just wanted to do your show so he came on here and called

me a Hollywood douchebag was difficult to deal with Say that about you. Oh, yeah, he did on your show Did I have your back Adam no Sounds like Adam saw the Aussie guy have a great performance on W ATP and someone got a little butthurt It sounds like to me. No one saw the Aussie guy have a great performance at WATP and someone got a little butthurt. What it sounds like to me. No one saw the Aussie guy have a great performance on WATP, Cardiff. No one saw that. His accent is enjoyable, sure.

But yeah, that was, he was reaching. And for someone who is, I'm pretty certain that whatever issues he had with Blind Mike were on his end and not Mike's Okay, Carl gun to your head. Yeah, you have to have a guest for your next episode of ATP clear water Chad or Aussie guy go No shit Never again never again It's a guy calling in who saw me on the PKA podcast hey Carl I'm a new listener I saw your appearance on the PKA podcast and

decided to check out WTP and all the other podcasts to say the least I'm now a Backslapper and I just want you to let you know that there's a lot of gold in the PKA podcast But you can just review one show. There's this little clips that will Make it very entertaining make it very entertaining. Well thank you for the call. Yeah I enjoyed being on there with the PKA boys. I hope they'll be back again. I want to get those guys on this show. That was a lot of fun.

Dick Madderson helped me out with the connection to those guys. And thanks for finding this show. He called back again. Sorry I'm a little bit wasted. So I know that there's a lot Oh, he called back again. Sorry, I'm a little bit wasted. So I know that there's a lot going on in the PKA podcast. You should check it out. I'll be in the Discord posting some links of the best moments and best highlights. There's a lot of good content in there. All right, thank you.

Go fuck yourself. You can join the Discord, go to whoarethese.com. There's a link to it. It's free to join, participate in the Discord. And thank you for doing that the great sea moose calling in The way great seems here don't forget it's your last chance to go to hack ride mania.com get your tickets for hack ride mania promo code moose Come on Jack. I don't know why I played that none of that is true last voicemail

Talking about the Aussie guy. Hey Carl, I know you usually listen to the Voicemails on Tuesday nights. I hope I made the cutoff for the Wednesday show, but Just want to let you know the Aussie guy fucking stinks blind Mike world order and oh producer Chris Keep it up. You handsome bastard. There you have it The Aussie guy I couldn't believe blind Mike segment. Did you want see that at all Adam? I did not I want to though Yeah, it's it's very interesting Mike took all of that very seriously and literally In fact, I got text from him afterwards going did I insult you? Are you mad at me? I'm like no definitely not What do you mean? And thankfully Craig was there to be like I think Carl's Joking he kept telling they played the entire thing and every time Craig's like see I think Carl's joking there

But anyway, it wasn't our best segment ever that's for sure Cardiff what else you plug in my friend? patreon.com slash Carter for extra curl That's the place to go new YouTube channel at Carter select and just come to hack a mania and hang out stop stop waiting people you're almost out of time I can mean you dot coms true make it happen first shows are happening on Friday I gotta go bye I gotta go I gotta go I'm an asshole ah Carl I love you go fuck yourselves have a good week okay folks guess what this is the episode oh man that was a good episode. That was a good episode. I enjoyed that. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr