Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep625 - Lisa Boswell Tribute, Tom Myers Interview, Opie Unleashed, Rob Saul

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Lisa Boswell passed away this week from complications with a UTI. Ladies, you have to wipe from front to back! We have a tribute to one of our favorites on WATP over the past year. Adam Busch, Vinni...e Paulino, and Producer Chris host the show because I was in Dallas on Alex Stein's show at the same time. Tom Myers came on as a guest and really hung in there. Rob Saul talks to Pat Dixon. Cardiff joins as Opie celebrates his birthday with his friends. Annie comes on to play a game and read reviews. Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Cardiff’s channel – https://www.youtube.com/@cardiffelect Annie’s website – https://www.insanneity.com/ Tom has tons of plugs: https://bsky.app/profile/thetommyers.bsky.social Instagram www.instagram.com/the.tom.myers https://www.patreon.com/tommyers YouTube www.youtube.com/@tommyers Website www.tommyers.us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Okay, by the way for those people that are in the back Remember to shut the fuck up Cuz cuz a row cuz a row slap a Rooney. It's showtime. There was much rejoicing. W W T Hello Helga Maniacs, Kazaroos. Welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts, the only show that doesn't give a fuck about your feelings. I'm your host today, Adam Bush. I've officially jumped the shark filling in for Carl Hamburger, H-A-M, B-U-R, G-E-R. And
Starting point is 00:01:40 while he's on assignment in Dallas, here's hoping that anyone planning on taking photos of Carl has a clear shot of him. With me today is a man that I had to fight for after being told Christian Blatt was the only available option. Vinny Paulino is here. Vinny Paulino Hola, creepo. So glad to be here with you today. I'm excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's gonna be a fun time. Vinny Paulino We had some very deep conversations in Vegas, I thought, that showed another level of Vinnie Paulino, I hope is on display today. You telling me to behave? No, I'm not, quite the opposite. Great. Producer Chris is here too, I'm happy about that.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Ah, hey! As always, he's a man who claimed he never wanted the Carl chair, never, not at this time. Producer Chris is here, how are you doing, Chris? I'm doing great, Thanks for having me. Do you miss him? Do you miss him a lot? Don't really want to get into it right now.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 It's with Dick Masterson. Got the whole crew from WATP is going to be there. Johnny, the audio engineer is going to be there. We encourage our listeners to give us a five star review on Apple Podcasts and then shit all over us in the comments section. So today on the... Oh no, no, please. I was just gonna say how excited are you? This is gonna be your second live show. Yeah, it'll feel like a real one because that was a Melton thing. This will be more of a WATP thing. I'm very, very excited for it. Sweet. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Nothing planned.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You're a train of thought. I'm just very excited for it. Sweet. Sorry. I didn't mean nothing planned. You're Trained of thought I'm just excited for it because the live shows are incredible, especially the ones with dick Those are usually the craziest and the most wild. Yeah 40% more shouting than the regular show. That's true We do encourage our listeners to give us a five star review on Apple podcast shit all over us in the comments today on the program You're never gonna believe this right, waiting in the wings is a comedian. The infamous, the innate Mr. Tom Myers. He's going to be here live and we're going to have a conversation with him in just a bit.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's been very patient with us, so please make sure to send in your questions for Tom. I have many. Also on the show today, good advice can come from the most unexpected places Pat Dixon and his pseudo media apology tour tries to get back in the good graces of the dabble verse audience as a whole by Talking sense to Rob Saul. How the fuck does that gonna work? Well, as you can imagine Rob is very open-minded about it and he's open to change and willing to hear new thoughts Wait, are there two Pat Dixons? No, it's that guy. Huh? He's open to change and willing to hear new thoughts. Wait, are there two Pat Dixons?
Starting point is 00:04:25 No, it's that guy. Huh. That's the guy. Unless there's like a relative of Nixon, I don't know. Not Nixon's wife. We're talking about the New York crime guy from that podcast, right? Yeah, yeah, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Good. Opie continues his Holden Caulfield-like descent from depression into madness on the streets of Central Park. He hates this city, so he's decided to make New York his entire show. But before we get into that, we do have a very serious announcement. It is with a heavy heart that we share that we have lost one of our own. Lisa Boswell has passed away. She was 68 years old. Helga Mann announced this yesterday and has reportedly changed her Facebook status to feeling sad
Starting point is 00:05:05 Oh, I would love to discuss Helga man's Facebook status Adam. In fact, let's start here This is how I was able to confirm that Helga was going to or that this actually happened yesterday afternoon when someone tweeted it at Me I went directly to Facebook and if you notice How you started off with Lisa spelled wrong, two A's, Boswell passed away at about seven this morning from complications from UTI. She was almost 69. I will miss that cantankerous, stubborn woman.
Starting point is 00:05:36 We worked together on that reality show from 2018 to last December. We did two specials on John Huyck's Presents on YouTube. We were going to do a show today if she felt up for it. Sure you were. Fucking UTIs, man. Wash them ladies. So the only advice I have to say, but here's what upset me guys.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And I'm sorry to be this person. One hour later, she's posting memes about Trump. Not even an hour, 55 minutes after announcing the death of her long time roommate and co-host. It's back to bashing Trump. Today, not a mention, more memes. Nothing. I am absolutely floored and disappointed.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Give it up for her work ethic though, you know? That is true. Tell me about Lisa's drumming. So what she told me when I had the chance to talk to her, because I was a guest on that reality show, the episodes have been scrubbed from the internet. God forbid they have backups of what they did before that channel got blown up. She told me that she was a very good drummer and she was a studio drummer for Columbia Records and she eventually ended up on the touring band for Eddie Money. So she quit the band or got fired
Starting point is 00:06:57 when they were going to go to Europe because she liked weed too much and was too worried to be traveling with it in Europe. So he quit the band. That's the story I got. Yeah, you don't hear about a lot of musicians that like weed and figure out how to make it a part of their life. Well, I'll tell you what she's point.
Starting point is 00:07:15 The point she pointed out to me was that Eddie Money used to be a cop. Really? Yeah, he was Eddie Mahoney was his name and he was a police officer. I swear to God, I looked it up after. Whatever you said, I agree. Yeah, he used to be a police officer and he was a police officer. Swear to God, I looked it up after. Yeah, he used to be a police officer and he was really anti-weed and so she had to act right and she didn't feel comfortable traveling across the world with the guy who's gonna be such a stickler.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I don't know what to say to that. Are you sure that wasn't like the pilot sitcom that he was pitching when the music stopped working. Me and this corpse are going to Europe. Money patrol. We're calling it Two Tickets to Paradise, me and... Well, she had on her bio that she was a member of the wrecking crew. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. That can't be true.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Listen, her bio's completely insane. The stuff that they have posted about her is that she won a gold record for Take Me Home Tonight with Eddie Money. She was in the touring band. And then it says she has a BA in journalism from the University of North Carolina. I don't buy that either.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I think you're right. And also... Helges, yeah, no, what... No, I'm not even done. Media personality in the Southeast, it says. Don't know what that means. First shock jock. D-O-F-A-C, check it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Recovering lifer in prison. That part is true, and I can confirm that. I found all about what Lisa Boswell did to get her prison sentence But I really don't want to start off with that. Is it alright if we just kind of Remember Lisa today guys. Is that cool? I would like that. I would like that too because you know, there's so many things about her That made her wonderful What I want to know is is if Helga Mann really played 12 string guitar with the Grateful Dead No Who didn't? What I want to know is if Helga Mann really played 12 string guitar with the Grateful Dead?
Starting point is 00:09:06 No! Who didn't? Of course not! Fact checkable. We can find that out. We're going to. Hold on. So this is the first time I ever laid eyes on Lisa and Helga when we covered them on WATP. This was my assignment, Adam. This is from the very first episode I watched.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And folks, from that moment, I could not look away at what was happening. Well, it's Monday and it's fucking tax day. The deadline for us to file our taxes. And guess what? This is the fifth year that I haven't filed. In the sense of a... We need our mics. I'm bringing myself to the bank. Basically, we just say, King's bet! You pay money after the system. I have not filed my taxes in 20 years. It's been since I've been in prison, it's been 25 years.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's not worth the stress, sweat, and hassle when you're a senior citizen on a fixed income. How fixed is it? I have never in my life seen someone admit to being a tax cheat in the first 30 seconds of their show. And Lisa was so, the second she chimed in, I was sitting there waiting to find out what this person's voice was going to sound like. And then just out of nowhere, I pay taxes 25 years. I love it. Incredible. Helga brings it up and immediately you're thinking,
Starting point is 00:10:37 wow, they don't look like they'd be sticklers for paying taxes. And then of course we get the rest. Yeah. So I'm watching this show, Adam, and I am mesmerized. Not even kidding you. This is the next clip that really caught my attention because it seems like when you start to watch the relationship here on the show that we all fell in love with, they were always in two separate worlds. In my line of work, the various things I do, I get to know a lot of people. I got to know a lot of people. And a lot of them were dependent on me because if they had an expensive foreign car, guess
Starting point is 00:11:16 who was doing half the maintenance on it? Yeah. Lisa. I'll tell you. There's no way. Because if you're in trial, if you're on trial for something and you have people that are. Just for chronology's sake, is this Lisa in last April 2024. Okay. So it's older.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah, just a little bit older. This is where we first met her, just last spring. Like it was literally a year. The rise and fall of Lisa and Helga. But this is really interesting here. Crab, you're fucked. You are fucked. Yeah, we missed the Q on that. Sorry, guys. You're fucked. You are fucked. Yeah, we missed the cue on that. Sorry, guys. You're fucked.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You are fucked. She's right. Witnesses to that crime. You're fucked. You are fucked. Yeah, what she's pointing out is if somebody comes and testifies and says they saw you do something, you're fucked. So now I'm completely enthralled by this, by these two.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I want to know more. You know what I mean? You ever go down that ladder and you're like, oh, I'm going to go down that ladder? I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm going to go down that ladder. I'm completely enthralled by this, by these two. I want to know more. You know what I mean? You ever go down that hole where they're just giving you this is like the best type of television show where they're like reverse engineering the storyline to you? Right? So here's more of it. When I was in court, when I had my trial in 1999, you know that's the last time I saw my sons and my wife.
Starting point is 00:12:57 In court? No, yeah, in 1999. In court. 25 years ago. Yeah. She told them you were dead. Nice lady. There's so much humanity here. Like, it's amazing. Manatee. Well, Helga's telling her the sad sad story Lisa told it and then completely forgot it if you watch her face She's like living the sad memory of seeing her sons the last time and that immediately just turns into my face itches
Starting point is 00:13:35 It could have gone out for hours, but What's the opposite of chemistry? This that reality show with Helga man at least a Boswell They have no ability to go back and forth with each other at all. It's like a rule I can't acknowledge what you just said and I'm having a hard time Understanding that she's not dead right now. Yeah in this video. Yeah, all I can see is that Guys God is in his holy temple guy with the hat on every time I look at her Well, I love the way Dick Masterson described it at the Las Vegas show when he saw her for the first time
Starting point is 00:14:08 He was like, it's fire marshal bill. Yeah, like it's really it's a really unfortunate delivery. I noticed early on Look, it's a deep pole but Neil from the young ones the hippie Okay, that's a lot of that going on. All right so How do I put this in this clip? All my stuff's hidden I want someone to foyer the information from this trial. I am so fascinated I got a guy to compromise it. I got up there and I said well
Starting point is 00:14:39 You just wait. I'm a testify. I'm a let them hear from me just wait, I'm gonna testify. I'm gonna let them hear from me. Big mistake. Big mistake. You shouldn't have gone on the stand in your own defense. They tore you to pieces. She, would you like to know what she did? Sure. Because this is what she talked about. She talked about, you know, this trial, she saw her kids for the last time, People came and testified against her. She was fucked and the only reason that she went to jail is because they had nothing,
Starting point is 00:15:10 but then when they went to trial, all the evidence came out. It's completely bonkers. She got busted from going around and stealing women's clothing from their houses during the day while they were home. And then giving them to homeless women that needed them? No, she stashed them all at this house a county over that was like an abandoned house. And she was going there after she would steal stuff. What she would do, she would steal like women's clothes,
Starting point is 00:15:42 their underwear, makeup, perfume, put it into a pillowcase, leave with it, take it to this house and was like setting up a dressing room or something. I don't know what, you know, Lisa was up to at that point. Best case scenario, that's what she's doing. So that could go in a lot of different directions. They actually gave her a nickname in the press. They called her the pillowcase bandit. Pillowcase bandit. That is dark. Well, you know, I host the creep off Adam. So here's what happened next. They get a tip that someone's going in and out in and out of this house and they go over there and they
Starting point is 00:16:17 look in the windows and they see all this women's clothes. They know there's a big situation, all the clothes are missing. So they set a cop outside waiting and I actually have pulled the information from the indictment on what happened. At approximately 10.30 p.m. on August 25, 2001, was in 1999, a man drove up to an abandoned house. The lieutenant observed the man who was later identified as Boswell stop the vehicle and turn all the lights off except for the interior light. As lieutenant approached the vehicle, he saw Boswell bringing different items out of the vehicle and chucking them into the woods. When he turned his flashlight on Boswell, lieutenant Dukes observed Boswell with his
Starting point is 00:17:01 pants down around his ankles. He had something in his hand wrapped around his penis and he was using that to pleasure himself. He was throwing things out of the vehicle into the hedges and also onto the ground. The lieutenant identified himself as a police officer. Boswell ignored the command, continued his activity, I'm almost done. And kept reaching into the vehicle to throw out items, including a knife and a crowbar. Oh. Right in front of the cops,
Starting point is 00:17:31 still whacking it and everything. As a result, the officers threw Boswell to the ground, handcuffed him and placed him in investigative detention. While laughing their asses off. I actually- Yeah, I can see why she would warn against witnesses. Yeah, they had no evidence on me except for a house full of evidence on me. Like, that you drove to.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You were throwing out stuff. I actually have an audio recording of the cops on the scene when they first saw Lisa get out of the car. Oh, boy! So... That's amazing. Unfortunately, now this is a lot of burglaries.
Starting point is 00:18:09 What she was charged with was burglary in the first degree, which is a felony in that part of North Carolina. And she was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for that. Wow. So the part of her saying she was a lifer is absolutely true. She went to prison, it was going to be there forever. But while she was in prison, she started transitioning. I guess people started paying attention and a lawyer got involved. And they discovered that the cops that arrested her were from a different county and didn't have a proper warrant to arrest her at all. So the
Starting point is 00:18:45 verdict was rescinded and she was remanded to her own custody and she was free. That's incredible, because she definitely did it. Yes. Proudly caught right handed actually, I believe is the term. So let's go back to a little bit more of the Lisa that we love if that's all right, I don't want to hark on those things. They're a lot of fun. They did a lot of good natured ribbing with each other. And that's one of the things I like about them. Not afraid to give each other shit. I'm Helga Mann. I'm Lisa Bileswood. I'm with the Trainwreck TV on with the show
Starting point is 00:19:20 God help you. By the way, we've been having complaints about all the prison talk. Oh wait, I apologize. This is her. This is Lisa Taking criticism. Well Can we let the president could talk go for a while? You know, the other president talked we need to talk about her. Hopefully mr. Donald Trump Who you complain a Couple people the comments Really you haven't been following the comments Who do you complain? A couple people. The comments. Oh really? You haven't followed the comments.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Excuse me, I didn't mean to go there, but that was part of my life. I know, part of your reality. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Yeah. That is the Lisa we love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah. The violent one. Today, all I did, Carl sent me a link to this old page that had all sorts of old episodes and I'm going to be watching them forever because I really did love watching these two interact with each other. It is so fascinating. Some people could watch Aaron Imholt. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I could watch this for hours. Now, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, it's worth noting that Helga waited until the next show to tell her about this while they were on camera because I think this was the safest place to do it. And that hit that she got was like, again, best case scenario for how that would go down. She didn't mention that at all up until they were recording again because she doesn't like to hear it. And that hit that she got was like, again, best case scenario for how that would go down. She didn't mention that at all up until they were recording again, because she doesn't like to hear it. Would you like to hear what they got into that episode that people were complaining about? Yes, yes, I would. I was told by the warden at McCormick Correctional Institute that you are one of the 10 worst convicts in prison. that you are one of the ten worst convicts in prison.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Me? Why would they say that? That's because I pulled Freddie's eyes out. Yeah. Oh yeah. Anyway, that wasn't very nice. Well, he pissed me off. He shot me in the shoulder with a nail gun, a nail gun. And you've never felt anything like a nail gun when it goes into your shoulder because it burns. It hurts.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah. Algo's underwhelmed. And I had to go in here. I had to go in here. I think it was Jefferson Radiology. I had to get an x-ray to see if it was still any of the particles were still there. And they said no. They said it might have dissolved. Yeah, you had an MRI.
Starting point is 00:21:57 But they saw it and they said, God, what happened there? I said, I got shot in the shoulder with the nail gun. It's the sunny. It's the sunny optimism for me from her. Like she's going through this intense story. That's like, and I said, they shot me in the shoulder with the nail gun. Right. Can you believe it? The same tone is I like pizza. Yes, yes, everybody in the chat,
Starting point is 00:22:28 Lisa passed away yesterday. And who knew she spelled her name with two S's or two A's. Here's another fun one. This is where Lisa would just ground Helga because Helga's fucking creepy and says creepy shit. Watch Lisa deal with her. It's great. You know something I am not going to repost that. No, we're not going to post on social media. We don't want to give that man any more air
Starting point is 00:23:00 than we absolutely have to. In fact, what I'd like to do is take a plastic bag, put it on a pillow, sneak up to him when he's sleeping, put it across his face until he stops thrashing. Could just say smother, but yeah. I think that's illegal. Well played, Lisa. Law abiding Lisa. I would like to sneak into someone's room and smother them in their sleep until they stop
Starting point is 00:23:27 thrashing. I think that's illegal. She's perfect. She's absolutely perfect. I like this next clip because it looks like they just came back from sleepaway camp. Whoa. I labeled this. This is the clip today that somebody walked into my office and said, What the fuck are you watching? Because I
Starting point is 00:23:46 was laughing so hard. This is it for me. Good natured ribbon. How come it takes you a half hour to say anything? Hell yeah. Anything at all takes a half hour. I'm a long form comic. You're very long form. Garrison Keillor, Lewis Black, you know, those kinds of guy. Yeah, especially Lewis Black and Garrison Keeler, Lewis Black, you know, those kinds of guys. Yeah. Especially Lewis Black and Garrison Keeler because they're nothing like you. Yeah. Wait for it.
Starting point is 00:24:12 What I'm, what I'm, they're funny. My drop. Bam. Awesome. Lisa, Lisa. Oh man. You're going to miss you. She's so wonderful. everybody. They just are so interesting to me. Check this one out. She just has this toxic attitude about her. He's talking about his ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:24:41 She's afraid of change. She couldn't move out of the neighborhood. We had to buy a house in the neighborhood. That's where she changed her underwear in 10 years. Gross. Actually. Four years? I used to wash it, so I know she changes it every day.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Ew, ew, you washed it? But now she has more actual underwear now for about... Diapers. I'm sorry. Diapers. Yeah, she hasn't worn actual underwear for about 10 years. She just doxed his ex. She leaks.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I love it. I love it. It's that reality show with Helga's reality. Oh man. I love her so much. I'm so sorry she's gone. I know. I am so sorry. It's like Jim Carrey played Garth from Wayne's World. It's cool. They said the show was based on Wayne's World, so you might be right. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah. This clip right here, folks, I want everybody to know that this is how I'm going to memorialize Lisa Boswell personally.
Starting point is 00:25:56 This is the best intro I've ever heard and will now be incorporated into the opening of every episode of The Creep Off in her honor, in her memory. Holy shit. Is this great? incorporated into the opening of every episode of the creep off in her honor and her memory. Holy shit is this great. Welcome to Friday's slumber party on that reality show. And today, if you're a kid, don't get on here, okay? See, that's how you do a disclaimer. You tell the kids to get out the fuck off the damn page. She's the greatest.
Starting point is 00:26:30 She's a beautiful angel. So much love. And this is one of the last signups, sign offs I could have found from her. So I just wanted to share it because it's kind of sweet and it made me think it's a nice memory. Anyway, seriously seriously though we love you we'll see you tomorrow subscribe to the YouTube channel and there's your that's the reality today the best reality today is yep smoke over she got
Starting point is 00:26:57 them we love you bye- Yeah. There she goes. The sweet angel. I would like to thank All Apologies podcast for posting this earlier, and I would like to thank ChatGBT for making that marijuana leaf cover her penis. That's what she would have wanted. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:18 That's what she would have wanted. Well, Adam. That is how she'd like to be remembered. That's really beautiful. She's gone. Well done. I loved her, and I'm thinking that there's so much stuff that's still there that could be mined
Starting point is 00:27:28 and just, you know, fuck Helga. Let's just go back and watch this shit for Lisa. We'll post the link to go back and watch these. They're amazing. What are the chances that Helga would talk to us? Oh, a million percent. Oh yeah. She'll talk to anybody. We just don't want to.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Yeah. Okay. She's kind of the worst, Adam. Helga's kind of the worst. I am too. Maybe we'll hit to anybody. We just don't want to. Yeah. Okay. She's kind of the worst, Adam. Helga's kind of the worst. I am too, maybe we'll hit it off. Listen. He stinks. You like having conversations with people,
Starting point is 00:27:54 so you know, God bless you. Speaking of which, I think you have a segment you would like to do. I'm so excited for his first appearance live here on WATP. He's a personality, He's a podcaster. He's a political pundit. He's a lightning rod of Misperception he's comedian ladies and gentlemen, mr. Tom Myers. There we go. I just unmuted myself like a professional Podcaster gentlemen, how are you? Thanks for having me on We are so excited. You're. And we have so many questions.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I've been sent so many questions from so many people. No. I have. People send questions? I find that hard to believe. It's the theme of the whole show. But for those of you who are not familiar with Tom, if there are anybody that hasn't heard of you, just here's some of the things that comedians have said about you really
Starting point is 00:28:43 fast. Shane Gillis said, Tom Myers is awesome. It was an honor to introduce you to his wife and that he listens to your albums on the road. Louis J. Gomez called you a killer. He said you were the most requested guest he's ever had on his podcast. And Ghost Gum wrote a piece about you that has half a million views and he says that your work is the great anti-comedy that exists today. He thinks you're an Olympic athlete of that sort of thing. How does that make you feel when you hear that? Oh, I tell you what, so much critical acclaim. If I ever write a book, that's all going in on my that's that's going on the book jacket. Every single one of those comments.
Starting point is 00:29:31 But I mean, we get a lot of good comments. We get a lot of bad comments. Shane Gillis also said that he can't tell if Tom has any self awareness at all or if he has too much self awareness. There's definitely no in between though. Louis J Gomez also said you were the least successful guest he's ever had on his podcast, and Tim Dillon said that Tom Myers looks like a make-a-wish kid who never died. So I guess my question is how do we process the good and the bad together? I mean, well, the way I process it is I just don't give a shit. Okay. Like I haven't cared really for a long time. Yes, I know that there's some
Starting point is 00:30:06 acclaim out there. It's positive, some out there that's, that's negative. I take it, I take it all. Some of the negative ones, believe it or not, I actually find quite, quite amusing. And you know, others, it's just fun to, to go after them. What do you mean by amusing? I mean that I, I sort of want to go ahead and acknowledge it and just go after it and just go ahead and respond, uh, respond to it in my, my, my, my usual, my usual chipper self. So that would not be ignoring it at all. That would be letting it affect you and retaliating head on against it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Well, some of them I ignore. Some of them are just shit. But then there's others I don't. It's like I pick and choose. It's almost like I pick and choose. Like whenever I'm invited on some shows, I pick and choose which ones I want to do. Like I go ahead and I weigh the pros and cons. Is this going to benefit me?
Starting point is 00:31:10 How is this going to hurt me? And then I just make an educated decision. So what went through the process of deciding whether to come on WATP or not? The fact that I got on a lot better with you on on Huzy's show that that I thought I would. So and then, you know, you sort of extending the extending the invite to come on. And I thought to myself, okay, I really have. Maybe I have nothing to gain.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I don't know. But I certainly have nothing to lose. So why? Why not? Sound logical. Yeah, if there's nothing to lose. Blind Mike said an interview you did with him that you're not the easiest person to work with. What are some examples of that? How would that manifest itself?
Starting point is 00:32:17 I honestly I mean, I don't I honestly don't know. I admit that I do have some qualities that do turn off a lot of people. I can be very stubborn. I can be set in my ways. I have this sort of a bullshit meter in my head. Whenever I think someone's getting ready, whenever I think someone's just fucking with me or whenever I'm being trolled and then if I go ahead and respond as such then that I'm being seen as I'm being seen as difficult or you know are not funny thin-skinned but it's like I go ahead and like everything that comes my way I just I just process it all the same way and some I react some ways to uh I reacted in some ways and some to another. You trolled uh Aaron Imholt pretty hard eh?
Starting point is 00:33:10 It was just it was just something to do I wanted to see if if I could do it and uh yeah I was actually kind of uh proud of the results because he ended up he ended up going off on me on his on his stream a few times and the fact that he not only got upset that he knew I existed but uh the the fact that he he ended up not getting any super chats or venmos or donations while he was talking about me and then he got angry and upset about that like Like that was, to me, that was like mission accomplished. And then in typical Aaron fashion, what he did was he went ahead and said, oh, it's another win for the toe.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Oh, I handed Tom Myers an L. Meanwhile, when he tried to snipe me back after I was sniping him, he turned off my volume and then this immediately cut away. He said, oh, Tom really didn't have anything to say. And I'm like, I listened to the tape back, you fucking idiot, you didn't let me speak. So-
Starting point is 00:34:18 So now you're coming for the town. Are you doing that kind of target practice for other people? Are you comfortable letting people just use you as some kind of target to practice bullying on and seeing if they can break you and get you to shut down your stream and stop giving you money and then turn around and go, yeah, I did something today. Well, I mean, the difference between me and like a lot of these other streamers is like I do have like other sources of income. It's like I don't necessarily need to stream or something. In fact, I actually came to the conclusion recently.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I did some live streaming for a couple of months just to see if I enjoyed it. And after a while, I got kind of tired of it. I mean, I liked interacting with some of the chatters that came in. Like that was pretty much my favorite part of doing the live stream. The friendships, having some friends to talk to. I mean, I have friends, but it's just like having people in the chat.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I didn't say you didn't have friends. I was just trying to understand the appeal. You said that. Um, I guess it's like this, I have a really bad sense of direction. When I get off the freeway and I gotta get back on, I have a sense that tells me what direction to go. There's like a feeling, and that feeling is always wrong. I can count on it, that thing. How do you know if your gauge is wrong?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Like how do you know if something's funny or not, or too mean, or how do you know what makes a good joke and a bad joke outside of of the audience, to you? Well, the first gauge is, do I think it's funny? And it's like, if I don't think something's going to work, like if it doesn't make me laugh, then I just don't do it. And then, you know, the ultimate test is, of course, does it make an audience,
Starting point is 00:36:03 like a room full of strangers laugh as well? And then if I try something and if it gets an immediate reaction, great. If not, I go ahead and try it again, tweak. Then if I just can't tweak it, then I just say, okay, fuck this bit. I'd say all the stuff I've written, I'd say like 99.9% of it, like never makes, like never makes the final act that I do. That's a lot. That I do on stage. I mean, listen, I'm open and honest about it because I write, I write a lot. So, like I sit down, I, and like I just, I write, I actually, I do the
Starting point is 00:36:49 traditional like pen to paper type deal. So, and so it's easier for me to remember some of the stuff if I go ahead and write them down. And then some of the stuff I won't use for the stage. If it doesn't work for the stage, okay, does it work for, does it work for the podcast that I do? Does it work for Tom Meyers versus The World? I was gonna ask you about that. You said it and I have it here. You don't like doing the podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:10 No, I don't like doing, I don't like, I didn't, I got tired of doing the live stream. The podcast, Tom Meyers versus The Rest of the World, that's actually what I enjoy doing a lot more. Hey, Tom, I'm sorry. Can I just ask you a question about your, you know, you're talking about how you were writing, your writing style.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You said that you scrap about 99.9% of it, and I get that because like, you know, sometimes you self-edit and you look at your stuff and you go, obviously, I'm not even gonna bother with that. But I've watched all of your specials, seen all of them. I've listened to your show, and it seems to me like you write so much that you don't take the time to polish jokes. Do you feel like that's valid?
Starting point is 00:37:53 No. Okay. Because like every single album that you've listened to, the stuff I've worked on has actually done well and has been polished, has done well in front of audiences. So I've never heard you receive a criticism of your comedy positively. Well, there's criticism and then there's just reporting,
Starting point is 00:38:18 there's just going back at what's a factual inaccuracy or a misperception. Please don't think I'm trying to insult you. Obviously I'm trying to just have a conversation with you about standups. So I guess I would follow that up by saying, like I've noticed that you take a bit of time, you use a lot of words. Word economy doesn't seem to be the most important thing
Starting point is 00:38:42 in terms of your style of telling jokes. Would you agree with that? I'll agree. I'm not exactly the most concise person. I'm not exactly the most concise comic. I'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and concede to that. But the jokes that I've done on the albums, apparently, if they didn't do well at all, I would just cut them from the final edit. Or if the room was particularly off with one particular joke, that's happened a few times, you're thinking, oh, shit, I didn't want that to happen. Well, then. Can I just reconcile my first and second thing?
Starting point is 00:39:27 I just wanted to explain what I meant by not polished. The word economy sometimes is very burdensome when you're listening to what you're delivering and trying to get to the punch line. So when I say not polished, that's kind of what I mean by that because I feel like, how long you've been doing comedy a very long time and I just feel like it's either a style choice or you don't get that, that it's hard for people to listen to.
Starting point is 00:39:52 So I'm just curious what your thoughts are on that. do. Like there's often jokes, sort of there's jokes within the bit. There's other little jokes peppered in before I get to like the big final one. So, I mean, there's... Yeah, that's stand up. There's that as well. Right. But that's how all stand up is. You know, you set it up, set it up, set it up, punch, set it up, set it up, set up, punch, get your jabs in. I guess, have you ever... Have people said this to you before? I mean, yeah, I've definitely taken advice from some more seasoned comedians, especially when I first started. And it's always a work in progress. I've never done the exact same set two times in a row. Like every single joke I've done,
Starting point is 00:40:51 like it has been, it's been. Yeah, they all sound, it sounds just like a joke. It always, it's always joke adjacent. It has the feeling of one, if a crowd is drunk enough, it'll land and it'll give us that, you know, that satisfying punchline thing. You do have a rhythm. You definitely have a rhythm to the way you set stuff up. I'll give you that, 100%.
Starting point is 00:41:13 That is, even when the joke, written down as clever, is sometimes missed by the movement or the energy or the prowling that sometimes doesn't match the delivery It's it gives off the vibe that the person you see in your head is not the person we see like I feel like you see a kind of What's his face the Lenny Bruce Bill Hicks kind of prowling the stage darker character But it's a very much a young Mormon. You know, have you heard the good word? Yeah It's very much a young Mormon, you know, have you heard the good word? Yeah. I mean, well, no, I mean, and the the quote unquote prowling, I just like walking around on stage because that sort of eases the.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh, it's absolutely the letting go of tension. Right. Which is what I've done. It I've done it for a self-souling kind of thing. You know, I've done it where I've stood in front of Crowds and I've just been gripping the microphone like this and that's also best I've also I felt kind of very very very stiff and and not myself really I'm just being I'm just being myself on stage and like a lot of people a lot of people seem to Seem to like it. Otherwise, I wouldn, otherwise I wouldn't have kept doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Because when I heard that you were raised by older parents or by grandparents, I don't know, you said something like your father was raised by your grandfather. I remember thinking, well, that checks out for most people. I don't know how unique that is. He was raised by his grandfather because his mom died when he was very young.
Starting point is 00:42:48 So that's how he was. He was raised by his grandfather. And that was the story about the, the, the inflection, the Irish accent with the my great, great grandparents. But no, my, my parents were both I was the youngest of three children. So my parents were kind of older. They're both still around though. And did they take you to a gravestone and say, someday, son, this will all be yours? That is half true. I kind of played it up for the bit.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Like there is a family plot where and they did take me to see it because I used one of my hobbies is I study I study my family history. So I go ahead and visit a lot of these a lot of these places. So the bit the bit stem from that. Hey, Tom, I have a couple of questions from the chat that are just real fast. You might if I just Yeah, sure. That's some question. Can I throw one out there? What's your home club? Please do the first one Which are which are home club?
Starting point is 00:43:47 it was the lu costello room and Upstairs at Zissamo's they used to do our regular comedy shows, but that's since That's since closed and that's a restaurant It was it was a comedy club that was right above a place called Zissamose. Like they did regular they did regular comedy shows. They held the Charm City Comedy Festival there when they when they held it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 But it was closed down, which is which is a shame. The other clubs in the Baltimore area are Magoobie's Joke House that's in Timonium, Sully's Comedy Cellar used to be Tracy's years ago. That's great. Do you know what he does for a living? Do you know what his job is outside of podcasting? I imagine you're going to tell me. Sure. He books a comedy club in New York. So he might know a thing or two about it. And I thought it was funny that he was the one guy you were like, we can't have him on. I mean, there's a legion of people that would agree to go on if Carl's not there. But you're the one to say, Vinny,
Starting point is 00:44:55 that's too much for me too. So I thought that was interesting. Because I would say it would be a wrong instinct. But they're asking in the chat, how often do you go to watch a show that you're not on? Like how much how often do you go to watch a show that you're not on like how much how often do You turn on the YouTube and watch other people's shows. Oh A lot like especially if like some some friends of mine post stuff as well like some Like other comics such as comics that I do Like well my friend
Starting point is 00:45:27 comments that I do. Um, like, well, my friend, uh, uh, uh, like whenever, uh, Chad Zoomock, he'll go ahead and post stuff on his, on his Instagram. I know that's a thing, but it's like, I love, No, it's not a thing. It's just that you couldn't think of it. That's so funny. Do you ever, there's like go to a, is there any other club in town you could go to and just go watch a show that somebody show? Do you go do that often? Yeah, how often do you do that? I don't really do that as often as I used to because the podcast keeps me busy. I have my gig, I do public address announcing for youth baseball tournaments.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I don't really do the stand up as much anymore. So you miss it. I'm gonna like to get back into it again. Like I said, I'm still writing. I still like go out every now and then. I hit local workout rooms. And yeah, I'm definitely looking to try and get back into it. Cool. Here's one from, I hope I get this name right. Arkansotopestheorem, 499, thank you sir.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Tom, do you think teaming with WATP early would have been smarter than lashing out or was distancing yourself first and joining later the better move? We are gonna find out Mr. Theorem. We're gonna find out the answer to that question. Well, no, it's- I think it's like the, it's one of those things also
Starting point is 00:46:51 where it's like they say the anticipation of something is better than the thing itself. Like once it happens. Like what is it that Chinese proverb, the point of the journey is never to arrive or something like that? I don't know what that means, but I know there's a sense that you want your fans to be one way.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You want them to, you wanna dictate how they enjoy you. And I feel like there are good comics, there are great comics, there's a lot in the middle, but you seem to offer something that's undefinable that people can't find anywhere else. And you deny that part of yourself, you deny the people that enjoy it, and you pretend it doesn't even exist. And it's kind of a game we all have to play. That's writing that line of, are we allowed to enjoy you for what we enjoy you for? Like for me, it's everything you said,
Starting point is 00:47:44 you're like, yes, I'm either pacing manically or I'm standing still. It's all just tension to me. And I love that because that's really hard to find. Even now, the fact that I've pointed out multiple times there's that green hue around your head. And you're like, no, that's how we do this. That's how I work a green screen.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Well, that's something. I didn't quite say that. I said I've been working on it. Like I've been trying to tweak it as well. Not very well, admittedly, but I have a life outside of podcasting, which you know. Nobody said you didn't. Nobody said you didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Are you dating anybody? Are you dating anyone? Today? No. Do you see that, Rob Saul? That's all you got to do. It's really easy. It doesn't take much. You just answer the question. Jesus Christ. Well, thank you for telling me I'm more concise than Rob Saul. I'll go ahead and I'll include that on the- We take our victories where we can find them. Have you ever had your heart broken like real bad? Because I know I have. Oh, of course. Yeah. What was that like? Can you tell us about it?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Oh, I can go back to ask you about your parents. It was it was well, I'm having my heart broken right now because my Baltimore Orioles just suck so bad. And then the Ravens got knocked out of the playoff got knocked out of the playoff Ah damn it. I know I know They take a they take a little victory lap on that one, but no, I mean fuck the bills, sir Thank you, Vinny, I'll fuck the Ravens Thank you, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Oh, fuck the Ravens too, Tom. And someone like Tim Dillon says that you have either no self awareness or too much self awareness. What does that mean to you? All right, to me, I think that means that, like, I don't know what, like, I don't I don't know people's perceptions of me, or I'm sort of aware too much that I care too much. Maybe I do care too much, but you know. I think so.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Because that put, you know, when you have that going on inside, but you want to project, I don't care, it's not a winning combination. And we all see through that. And some people actually enjoy that. But it's interesting to see, you know, the suppression of it because it's very hard to act like we don't care when we really do. It's almost impossible. Humans can tell. You know, it's a weird thing to me, Tom. And I guess I don't understand it because I'm listening to you explain, you know, how you don't care.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But then when people say these things, you know, and then you respond immediately with, you know, some of them, you know, I do respond to and you seem to take an enjoyment in that you claim. I have to wonder, like, when you hear a criticism about your act and stuff like that, you kind of say you wear those things as a badge of honor, and I'm sorry, I feel like I'm rambling, I'm just trying to get this out the right way. You're like kind of proud of the way people come at you. To me, I would be like, I got to get better. I just don't understand that mentality. Can you explain it to me? I think it was just the idea of growing up in the Maryland public school system and just the idea of using jokes to go ahead and just deflecting bullies and upperclassmen
Starting point is 00:51:10 and just not really giving a shit about the consequences. I just can't see that kind of clever wordplay disarming a bully in the bathroom in Baltimore in high school. I just can't see that. Yeah. Tom would be giving a quip and the boys would be like, we got to get back to class, Tom. Well, they get back to class and therefore they leave me alone and don't
Starting point is 00:51:33 beat the shit out of me. Don't you see how this works? I have a plan. I think things, I think these things out ahead of time. That's not what I'm asking you though. I'm not asking you like why you got into comedy. I'm asking you like like why that criticism doesn't inspire you To get up and be the best comic that you could possibly be because like listen man I listened to those albums and I know that you're proud of them But I listen to albums all day long people send me stuff I listen to this all day long and it was very unremarkable and like you're sitting here telling me that it was great and
Starting point is 00:52:04 I respect that because you're proud of what me that it was great. And I respect that because you're proud of what you did. And I think anybody, you know, if they put something out there, they should stand behind it. But the response to the criticism is it's everybody else's fault for not getting it. And I'm saying, what in you stops you from processing that and saying, hey, I got to change this up? I got to start cutting words. I got to start hitting my punchlines harder and faster What's stopping you from that? There's nothing stopping me from doing that because I actually do do that contrary to what you read on reddit or what you hear or what you read in the in the In the comment section because I always I always do strive to
Starting point is 00:52:41 To be better and am I the greatest comedian in the world? No. No. Am I ever going to be that? Am I ever going to be that? No. I've come to accept that. But, you know, I've always, like I said, I always strive. I always work on the bits. I always work on the jokes. I always polish them. And I try and go out and work on them frequently, whenever I can. So the process I have might be very different from everyone else, but on the base level, it's the same. What I'm saying is you seem to revel in the bad reviews
Starting point is 00:53:20 and stuff like that, and you're very proud of it. And I'm just saying, how do you not take that as motivation? Instead of just standing there going, ha ha ha. I just answered, I literally just answered that question by saying yes, I do strive to be better. Okay, fair enough. I'll take issue with one of Vinny's points is that in terms of the comedy, it could be
Starting point is 00:53:46 enjoyed on a lot of different levels. People go see this Tim Heidecker character. He's a stand-up comic, right? It's genius because it's very hard to pull off intentionally and it can fill rooms and they don't have to explain it to anyone. And they know a lot of people looking at it might not guess what Tim Heidecker is doing. And that it is a kind of anti-comedy thing.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And it's funny in that way. And I feel like it's a more punk, modern, younger aesthetic that the second anyone tries to even mention it around you, it gets a very, very negative reaction. And I'm always of the like that if somebody wants to hear me sing, I really don't care what they enjoy about it. Who the fuck am I to dictate how they enjoy it? So I've always found that process really interesting. Can you tell us about that? Podcasts are great because they help us make the most out of our routine.
Starting point is 00:54:43 We learn about the fall of the Ottoman Empire while we drive, keep up with news while we take the dog for a walk, or turn folding laundry into a comedy show. Make the most out of your time with the PC Insider's World's Elite MasterCard, a credit card that can get you unlimited free grocery delivery and the most PC optimum points on everyday purchases. The PC Insider's World's Elite MasterCard, the card for living unlimited. Conditions apply to all benefits. Visit pcfinancial.ca for details. I mean, listen, if anybody wants to, you know, enjoy me, if anybody wants to go ahead and
Starting point is 00:55:13 give me the clicks or the listens or anything like that, I'll go ahead and do it. I'll go ahead and take it. I mean, a... So then why won't you embrace this stuff a decade ago? A click is a click is a click, a click is a click a listen is a listen But that's what they were saying a album ago with come town and all these places. That's what they were saying dollars a dollar, right? That's what they were saying. It's been this long 10-year kind of but with calm town with come down I've known I've known two of the hosts for a very for a very long time and
Starting point is 00:55:43 They just didn't they just don't seem, and having met them in person a long time ago, and listening to them as of late, it doesn't seem to be coming from a very genuine place, if that makes any sense. No, that'd be what I would say. It doesn't seem to be. Like you don't get to decide what's genuine and what's not.
Starting point is 00:56:07 It just kind of comes from... Well, I mean, but you're saying like I shouldn't criticize how some people perceive me. Just, but then so, okay, I just... How they enjoy it. I should be able, okay ahead and process that myself. I should be able to go ahead and perceive people's criticisms. I should also consider the source and go ahead and process that my way as well. Let them enjoy me the way they want to enjoy me,
Starting point is 00:56:45 and I'll go ahead and take the commentary as they want to take it. Sure. It's just when we talk about the sometimes things are too wordy or sometimes there's a different energy on stage, when we say, I say. That's actually the things I enjoy about you. Those are the things that as an actor I see.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And I'm like, fuck, that's really hard to reproduce. That's really, I like when two things are going on at once. And with you, I always see the comedian telling the jokes and then this other thing. And I don't quite know what it is, but I'm fascinated by it. And I feel like in all the studying I've done on you, it's been like a war to prove that that other side doesn't exist. And it's just this kind of Todd Barry comedian. When the other thing is what I love, it's what other people love. It's why Shane wanted to introduce you to his wife. It's why he listens to your album. It comes down to that
Starting point is 00:57:36 thing. What does innate mean? Like it doesn't make sense. Literally. It's maybe a political statement. It's maybe a joke on the fact that it isn't a thing, but that would put you in that anti-comedy category as opposed to no, that's a very funny joke that makes sense to everyone. Is that what you're doing? Is it anti-comedy or is this what you legitimately think is a funny joke that someone should see and laugh out loud at? Well, how would you define anti-comedy though? Because a lot of those terms just get bandied about and they're thrown around on the internet and people really don't know what words mean when they get thrown around.
Starting point is 00:58:20 No, I think everybody really has a clear understanding of the English language, especially writers and comics that put themselves out. Like a lot of these people consider themselves writers first and then comics. I mean, talk some poets, but they every syllable, it has a meaning and it would ruin it to add or remove another syllable. So when you say make America innate again, and people are like, I don't know what that means and your responses is well fuck off It feels like a dead end. I've never I've never
Starting point is 00:58:49 I've answered that question on on podcasts numerous times and the answer is So the answer was is like looking within oneself to find out how to make America great instead of just looking for external stimuli. And that's a joke. And it was also just something that rhymed with great. And I knew there was something that would... There it is.
Starting point is 00:59:16 There it is. There it is. There it is. And it was something that would never ever be copied. There goes Ryman Tom. So. I mean. It's a great question from the chat. Do you know what anti-comedy is, Tom? Do you know what they mean by that?
Starting point is 00:59:31 I know folk music and anti-folk music. Folk music is like what you think of when you think of Bob Dylan, Mumford & Sons. Anti-folk would be a much less melodic, a more punk, but with kind of lo-fi sound instruments. It's a different thing. They're both well-respected art forms. Do you know what anti-comedy is?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Do you know what examples of that are? I would love to hear you explain it. It's when something's unintentionally, something is intentionally unfunny. Right, they take out the funny parts to make you... And often, yeah, that's the writing aspect of it. And often you're left with an eager comedian, you know, a very eager to please comedian. In that case, if we're going by that strict definition, I would say that label is absolute
Starting point is 01:00:18 bullshit. Because like I said, believe it or not, if you go outside this dabble verse or hack verse or whatever or whatever the fuck we're calling it, then there's people out there who actually enjoy me. And if they- But anti-comedy is not enjoying someone. That's what I'm saying. It's enjoying it on their level. It's enjoying it the way they want to because they see something Unique they can find a good or great comic, you know in LA and New York very easily
Starting point is 01:00:49 But someone who does what I consider what you do and people like that that when it's leaned into can fill Well all rooms. I mean you could eaters you could look back to guys like for example Just like Andy Kaufman reading the great Gatsby on stage. Thank you is anti-comedy Tom It's really funny kind of like when you look at it and the surface level of what it is, but when you're in the room, you go, what the fuck is this? Until you realize what's happening
Starting point is 01:01:11 and you can lean into the joke and laugh at the inflection of him reading the words, which is the mastery of it. You know what I mean? There's a way to suck people into stuff like that. Is that what you're going for, or are you just going for hard punchline jokes? I mean, I'm just doing the standard set of punchlines. And when I go out and do them,
Starting point is 01:01:34 there's people who enjoy them. Do they always enjoy them? Do some of them flop? Absolutely. Absolutely, they do. Absolutely, they do. And when the ones that do, like I said earlier, I either tweak them, and if I can't get to the point where people like them, I just, I let them go. Because what's so unique is finding that person where they think it's funny. That's the beautiful thing to see, where the room feels one way, but they feel another way, and then we can laugh at that. That, to me, is sometimes more engaging
Starting point is 01:02:08 than just regular comedy, and sometimes I see that in spades with you, and I wouldn't wanna run from it, and I wouldn't wanna not embrace it, and I wouldn't wanna say you can only laugh at this part of the joke. You can't laugh at this part of the joke. I would just have to be respected only.
Starting point is 01:02:22 First off, thank you so much, JC, for the super chat. Who, me? I can't give $1,000. I'm mad. Well, you can do that nine more times. Come on, man. Show some love for the show. Show some love for the channel. But I mean, I can disagree with your assessment about my stand up. But like I said, if they wanna enjoy it, if they wanna stream the albums, if they wanna go ahead and put money in my pocket, I'll go ahead and take their money. And if they wanna go ahead and come after me, I'll go ahead. I heard that you had a period where you were an alcoholic, or at least where you drank way too much.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. That's wild. How did that happen and what was that like for you? I just started drinking. I had a family that's on one side of my family. There were Scotch-Irish, Pennsylvania Dutch coal miners. Another side of my family were, like I said, they were came over here from Ireland. There's a long history. What was it like when you were drinking Tom? Is this one of your bits? What was it like when you were drinking?
Starting point is 01:03:34 I wish I could remember. I wish I could remember what it was like. But no, there was something Really? Was it that bad? Yeah. That's amazing. I mean, there was some, there was one particular show I did. It was in upstate New York. It was outdoors. We did it outdoors because it was in the middle of August in a heat wave and then you had no air conditioning. And so in order to... Frank, can we ever talk about your drinking? Are we ever going to get to the part where you're drunk?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Well, before that particular show, I polished off a six pack of Yingling, had another beer at dinner, and then everybody just kept buying me shots during the show, and then I ended up doing some more after the show, and I woke up the next morning. Did anything happen at the show? Did anything happen at all? Well, I woke up, if you did anything happen at the show did anything happen at all
Starting point is 01:04:26 I woke up if you if you shut the fuck up for two minutes. Let me finish. I'll tell you You're asking a question can I can I can I fucking answer can you without? Chiming in I know I've all tried to but so but the next day I woke up and found that I had to walk through a landmine. Apparently the previous night I kept getting up and walking around and puking so many times that there were like these, I had to walk very carefully to avoid stepping on puddles of puke. So, and I did my best to go ahead and clean it up. And then, you know, at the end when I was checking out, I pulled some of the money that they had given me for
Starting point is 01:05:11 the show out of my pocket. And the woman who was, ran the place, just pulled it all out of my hand and said, this should go ahead and help the clean up feet stuck in her pocket. And you know, I wasn't really in any position to go ahead and do that. So I wasn't really in any position to fight back or argue or anything because I had a wicked hangover. So before we get out of here real fast, that was great. Before we get out of here, if there's any more questions from the chat, please let us know. I want to know how would you respond to people who would say that you didn't really answer the questions directly today, that you answered, you spoke, but you really just kind of avoided
Starting point is 01:05:51 the point and jumped around and wouldn't really internalize anything that was happening. You kind of have a couple stories, because I've done a lot of research on you, and you keep falling back to these same stories whenever you're asked about these certain topics, because it seems like you don't want to think about them or talk about them, and any kind of actual self reflection.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I mean, if I didn't want to if I didn't want to talk about anything, I wouldn't have come on this show. So think of you, man, it's actually you did. Absolutely. And you get points for that. Absolutely. But in terms of direct answers, there seems to be a lot of it just you hit a wall and we won't I think I't. I think I've been very direct. I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment. Okay, that's fair. I was reading from the chat what they said, a lot of people feel you're not answering the questions.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I think you agree with that. Well, I mean, a lot of the people in the chat, some of them are good, I recognize some of the names. See, this is what we're talking about. The ones who say nice things are good and the ones who say bad things are not good so, how are you what happened to the hero who's internalizing all of it and fighting back and reading it all and Well, I'm really like I said, I read it all and I process it and I go ahead and respond the way the way I feel I should you out what you can. You filter out, you consider the source,
Starting point is 01:07:06 and then you filter out which criticism you take is valid, correct? Correct. I talk too much. I'm not economical in words. If it's someone who just reads what other people who don't know me at all write about me on Reddit, then that's. How does somebody get to know you,
Starting point is 01:07:24 and who gets to decide what is well enough to know you to have an opinion on it? I think you're doing that right now, Mr. Bush. And is that okay or is that not allowed? Yeah, I mean, you could literally trash me as soon as I leave this fucking studio right now. And I would just be like, okay, it's just I came on, I came on set my piece that I that I changed some minds great if I didn't change any minds if
Starting point is 01:07:50 I didn't have any. What would be the mind? What would be the opinion to change? Like I was saying, I talked too much. I'm not economical in my words. I'm really verbose. And it's the biggest criticism I get. And every time I read it, it's just valid. Even when I am shorter, it's not short enough. I work on it. Every time I see it, I get it. What's one for you? What's the criticism you hear where you're like, yeah, I get that? I mean, well, a criticism that I hear that I am able to, that I do agree with is like what Vinny was saying earlier the word economy
Starting point is 01:08:25 Which like I said is something I work on I consistently work on it Like every waking moment even when I'm out and about running running errands and everything That's what it's runs through my mind. This runs through my mind consistently May I so throw something at you just to help you just because I really I have the same problem with stuff with word economy There's a really cool exercise. Do you know who Gene Perrette was? No. He was a writer for Johnny Carson and he wrote a book. It's called The Perrette Method of Comedy and one of the things he talks about for Word Economy is phenomenal. It's a great tool and it might help you tremendously. You might want to look it up. I'm not going to get into the boring parts of it, but I think it would tremendously help you and
Starting point is 01:09:05 Boring parts is my job Vinny Waka Waka I'm being self-deprecating Jesus. Come on. That's nothing. No problem. Listen, I Give you credit for coming on. I never thought you wouldn't a million years Tom Would you answer some questions from the chat for everybody though? Yeah, sure. I'd love to okay Tom this came from the black cast he was a dog And you would like to know what's like to be the funniest one out of the screed oh
Starting point is 01:09:37 My bullshit meter is going fucking haywire right now. Oh black cast you card Yes, he means that he actually means that he really does and he's right. He's a real prick As he presents gave us five bucks high mint have you ever tried concerta vineys ADHD meds overall Tom? Oh, that's from young Clipper Oh You ever tried any of that stuff? Oh No, I haven't you ever tried Adderall or anything like that. Nope. What's the hardest drug you've ever tried any of that stuff? Oh, no, I haven't. You ever tried Adderall or anything like that? Nope. What's the hardest drug you've ever tried?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Booze, man. That's the hardest one. Well, I mean, the hardest... Like, I've never done anything recreationally. Like, I've smoked pot once and didn't enjoy it. But, like, the hardest thing I ever took aside from alcohol because alcohol is a drug was hydrocodone when I had my wisdom teeth pulled. And one time I had taken it and I was getting on this real high at the same time that a tornado had struck
Starting point is 01:10:43 outside my house. And I just saw shit flying past the window. I was like, Whoa, this shit's great. And then I all the electricity went out and then I came to a little bit later and I thought, Oh, that was, that was a bummer. That was a bit of a calm down. Cool. Haco Burrow wants to know when was the last time you slept with someone man or woman?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Fairly recently Haco Burrow and speaking of which tell your mom I said hi and that I hope her jaw feels better. Oh, bam. I'm sorry, Haco. Thank you. Thank you for the thank you for the $5. It's seriously though, it's a standard go to line. And now that you've said the joke, what's the answer? The answer is it's nobody's business. Fair enough. My personal life is my personal life. And if I actually do answer that question, then I'll go ahead and I would dox that person and they don't deserve that. The idea of being with me is rough enough, but to put up with people who hear about me
Starting point is 01:11:45 and come up with and put up with me and come after me to then be subjected to those, to all that stuff? No. Spoken like a true prudent hand. And along those lines, I think that's what we've kind of been talking about is that I don't know, I try not to make jokes about things I don't know about. So if I'm not an avid pot smoker, bong user, I would not make a joke involving bong hit transplant. If I haven't had my heart broken or had a lot of partners, I wouldn't base my act on love and relationships. They talk about writing what you know, and sometimes the subjects feel
Starting point is 01:12:26 outside of your reach and the things that you know about, we would love to hear about, but those might be too vulnerable or revealing and stay a little tucked under. Also, like a lot of the early stuff I wrote, I wrote when I was a raging drinker and like a raging alcoholic. So are you blaming alcohol for the bong transplant joke yes okay if you really if you really want me to explain it that I have to no no we're not go back to drinking then and I'd have I have like 13 years and close to 13 years and four months you see to the outside all we saw,
Starting point is 01:13:05 and this is why I love you, Tom, and this is why I love this whole world, is we said, what drug have you tried? And you're like, oh, this one, not that one. Someone says, when's the last time you got laid? And you're like, fuck you, and fuck you. I don't have to answer that. Yes, I'm exaggerating, but it was a, you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:22 That was a big exaggeration. Sure, whatever it was. You. You're right. That was a that was a big exaggeration. Sure. Whatever it was, you weren't going to answer it on principle. I made a funny and then. Okay. And then didn't answer the question because you were offended and it was too much and then spoke about how it's your personal life and no one has the right to ask. I wasn't offended.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Forgive me. We can go over the details, but we know what happened. If I don't answer a question, if I don't answer a question, then I'm not going to. The fact that there's one about one and not the other, it's always revealed. I can't say I don't want to answer a question that I'm not that is one about one another. It's always revealed I'm not good. I can't say I don't want to answer a particular question Would you answer the one on the screen right now for me? It's time kill Mary kill Vinny Adam Chris and why did you kill Vinny? That's
Starting point is 01:14:01 I can tell you why I killed Vinny damn it. You're pissing me off right now No, I just gave you the out on there pal. I helped you out there. Don't you uh, don't get sassy with me Cupcake corner with American cupcake. Thanks for the 10 spot Tom five minutes ago You said when people criticize you for being too wordy. You don't change a thing now You're saying when criticized, you do change very womanly of you to contradict yourself. Scratch the last part of that. Just answer the first part.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You don't even need. Hey, he paid 10 bucks. I'm gonna read his question. Yeah, listen, 10 bucks is 10 bucks, man. Come on. I don't want to use the ending to avoid the beginning. Answer that if you don't mind. I don't think I contradicted myself.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I think I've said throughout is that I'm always trying to improve. So okay. Okay. Did we ask this one already? Yes. Yes. Sorry about that. Okay, better one.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Barrister 1401, thanks for the two bucks. Tom, what is the quickest you've ever walked a room? I'll tell you the quickest I ever walked one if you tell me the quickest you ever better one. Barrester 1401, thanks for the two bucks. Tom, what is the quickest you've ever walked a room? I'll tell you the quickest I ever walked one, if you tell me the quickest you ever walked one. Oh, I think it was within the first three minutes of my set. I just started, again, this is during my drinking days. Sorry for blaming booze again, everybody. Fuck yingling.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yelling at this table. I just started yelling at this one table and they didn't want to hear any of it. So they ended up walking. For me it was never. Trick question. Was, what a pussy you are. Jesus Christ, come on. I'm just fucking with you.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I've had meetings or auditions or things go so, be such a tremendous bomb that I spent the next like six months just not trying to bomb. And it took me a while to realize that these little not bombings I was having were not successes. I was just avoiding this thing I was afraid of. I wasn't actually winning or getting better. And I often see a lot of that in you, that kind of stasis, that kind of, well, it didn't go horrible, so we're just going to stay right here instead of taking some real risks and talking about the things that you can speak on.
Starting point is 01:16:25 You always remind me of that character from Punch Drunk Love that Adam Sandler plays. And it's like, yeah, you wouldn't want to see that guy as a comedian, but if he did, I think I would have to see it. Like, I wouldn't want to miss it. And I would want to see you talking about those things, the small little things that go on in your life. Like, whatever it was you wouldn't talk about
Starting point is 01:16:44 when you got drunk or in your love life. Those are the things that are interesting. Have a drink and tell us about them. If you don't mind. Yeah, then nobody will see me for like a month, which I think would make... I have a feeling that what makes quite a few people in this chat very happy if I did that. Kyle X, thanks for the two bucks, wants to know, can I submit jokes to you? 100% legit here. Anybody can submit anything, so. Tom, this is a tough one, but this is a question that I actually think is very valid and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 The greater good, thanks for the 499. Tom, he is stating nobody gets the opinion of you from Reddit. WATP actually reviews your stuff in context, and it's better than selective editing ever could be. Now, I know in the past you've accused Karl of selective editing on your shows, when he's critiqued you in the past.
Starting point is 01:17:36 How would you respond to this? Well, I can respond to this, and then I do have to get going after this one. I have one more question after that and no problem. Okay. I mean, I would say like in the context, like when you review episodes of Tom Myers versus the rest of the world, like the context is like it's supposed to be like a current events and social issues podcast.
Starting point is 01:18:03 So it's set up in that particular context. It's not like a live stage show. It's like discuss things that have gone on and I write jokes about them. So like to go ahead and treat it as if it's just a regular standup set is kind of, I find it anyway to be to be misleading I think you're doing it backwards if I may I think the show that you should have the most polished quickest jokes are the ones that are going to be out there going to a ton of people versus the ones that are just gonna be in a room somewhere in
Starting point is 01:18:40 a workout room like you described it I I mean, but like I said, the jokes that I would tell on the podcast aren't the same ones that I'm doing on stage, so. Okay, okay, so you like to retool. That's a completely different, they're two, it's like comparing, you're comparing apples and oranges basically. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I just find whenever anybody has some criticisms of your work, they're wrong, the delivery's wrong, the word is wrong, and then you say, I'm not trying to. I just find whenever anybody has some criticisms of your work, they're wrong, the delivery's wrong, the word is wrong, and then you say, I'm open to it. But somehow, specifically, I can't find out what it is. I disagree with your assessment, though. All right, thank you for demonstrating my point. A direct question about the podcast. And with that, we are going to let you go, because you mind telling us where you have
Starting point is 01:19:22 to be right now? I think everybody should know. Tom actually does have a very specific heart out that I think our audience would enjoy it's a Meeting that I have where I'm actually It's something big coming up in the works, and I'm not quite ready to announce it as of yet So okay, that's gonna be okay watch watch those after you booked this with me and after you told me We want we went over this we want a hard out because you have a thing After you booked this with me and after you told me that this was the day you could do,
Starting point is 01:19:46 you said you have a hard out because you have a thing at 6.30 that you just wanted to have in your back, which by the way, good on you, good to have an out. You don't know what the fuck this is. This was a line stand, you stepped into it, and you stayed the whole time. You didn't need to make up a pretend meeting with, I won't say who, but it's a hilarious punchline.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Once again, you're avoiding the real joke is this punchline of where you said you have to go. Because when I tell Carl, you have to leave WATP to go see. You told me 5.30, and it was my fault for not double checking for which segment and everything. I'll go ahead and take the hell out of this. I'm sorry, it's not the Tonight Show. You told me, you told me, it was a particular,
Starting point is 01:20:24 you told me a particular time. I just thought you knew how the podcast work, I, it's not the Tonight Show. You told me, you told me, it was a, you told me a particular... I just thought you knew how the podcasts work. I said it's at 5.30. I'm just, I, I, it's, I told you. You said I have a hard out at 6.30, because I gotta go to meet this other comic that, I won't say who or what. I just run my show differently than yours.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I tell people it's gonna be from this time to this time, and that's the way I, that's the way I run my show. But you do or don't have a hard out. I'm sorry, I do. Oh, well, thank you very much for being have a hard out. I'm sorry. I do. Well, thank you very much for being here with us. Can I sneak in one more? How much do I have me on?
Starting point is 01:20:50 Tom, last question. What did you do with the money? What money? That your mom gave you for comedy classes. It felt good, I gotta be honest. Jesus Christ. I had so many questions about it. Why did I?
Starting point is 01:21:11 Okay. Adam, where did he say he was going? Do you want to spoil it? I don't want to. He said he had, I mean. To the other room. It was not a meeting. He said he was making an appearance. To the other room. It was not a meeting. He said he was making an appearance with another comic
Starting point is 01:21:28 that would be very. Spit it out, Tom. Is he going on a shoot and lock or something? No, no, nothing like that, but. Nobody cares, I mean. Nobody cares. Listen, I've dealt with a lot of these negotiations jumping onto people's podcasts and stuff. And Tom played fucking hardball about everything. But I got to tell you, I didn't mind it. I don't know why there
Starting point is 01:21:53 was something very charming about it about him sticking up for himself and just, you know, having no idea who he was talking to or what he was doing. Like, you would treat, you know, going on, you know, he was acting like this was a network television guest spot and not even on a talk show, like one where there was negotiations to be had, where it was just like we're all just promoting each other. I made it clear, look, if there's 50 bucks here or there, I'm gonna give it to you.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Like whatever cash is busking around, of course I'm gonna share with you, but outside of that, I don't know what I can do. How much of Carl's money did you give him? Oh, all of it don't know how much of Carl's money. Did you give him? Oh Adam how much oh, we're not having Christmas this year, but we're Okay, you know everyone deserves, you know, I believe personally everyone deserves a little something but that's not what he was talking about He was talking about something very very different and he fought for it You didn't get it, but he fought for it.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And there was something, I don't know, I respected it. I've been going back and forth with Aussie guy for about two months. I know more about his personal life and about the time differences and his family and how his kids are feeling. I didn't ask. And after that, all of this time,
Starting point is 01:23:02 we still don't have a fucking date booked for me to go do his podcast. So that I find annoying. Tom, we were done in a day. It took a lot. There was a lot of insecurity, but he went for it. I respected it. I think we tried to be diplomatic, right? So out of that, I will respect his whatever that was.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I will not mention that he said he had a meeting with DatFan, because that's not my business to disclose. Right. Do you understand? Good example. So, were we too hard on him or were we too nice to him? A little of both. I think we were a little too nice to him.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Okay. I do want to ask Adam, were you implying that Tom's alcoholism stories are just stories for comedic purposes? I mean, I believe he had some kind of relationship with it, whether that was had a drink or not. What I was implying is that he often sounds like he's talking about subjects he doesn't know things about, which is essentially why he won't ever understand why that bong hit transplant joke doesn't work. Because in his mind, it's stoner food munchies. What's the problem? You're all racist
Starting point is 01:24:10 He wrote all his alcoholic all alcoholic jokes based on what he's seen on sitcoms, right? Because there's a lack of life experience like what he was talking about his family's being so different stuff like that That's a man without a country That's a guy who always felt like a little bit on the outside and was always kind of looking in at everything else But never wanted to stick his toes in any of it You know what I'm saying? Like he's a guy who didn't want to touch the weed because he saw all the people in his family do it but he kind of watched it all. That's a trade of a lot of comics. He smoked weed and the world almost ended. Wasn't that the story he just told us? Yep. Yes, he did. And that's the guy I want to hear about, not the guy who tosses off those
Starting point is 01:24:42 words like he's a stoner or talks about love like he's an ethereal. I want to find out about the guy trapped with his grandparents looking at a grave. Well, I don't know if you saw, I mean, I enjoy this. I'm a terrible person. But I think this was very, very difficult for him. I think as soon as he saw halfway through that it wasn't just going to be a retrospective, you know, actor studio look at his life. You should do a juxt show his shoulders when it started. And then at the end, how could I see them with the green screen cutting off half of his body? I know.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I know. So his head was his head was retreating into his chest. Mm hmm. Like we had a talk about it because I said I had to learn to it was really bothering me like like, what are you do? And he's like, Oh, I don't do anything. Like, yeah, you could do A? And he's like, Oh, I don't do anything. Yeah, you could do A, B, and C and just didn't.
Starting point is 01:25:28 The mistake you made was not asking us your first question should have been Tom, tell us why you're so great. Well, that's what got him into the interview. Hey, Tom, why are you famous? Kft, thanks for the dollar 99 producer. I went with who are you? Where are you going? Producer Chris, please stop talking. you're worse than M.M. My horse, I guess. 11 idle hands, I hope I never get drilled by Bush, brutal.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Yeah. It was grilled, you felt drilled. Tom, do you think these guys gave you a fair chance? Love you, but these guys are making some good points. Yeah, we tried, I tried to be constructive with them. I was great. All right, I think I got to be constructive with him I was great all right I think I got them all guys I think I got them all we're gonna move on to something goodbye Cardiff all right get out of here
Starting point is 01:26:11 I sure we keep Cardiff did you want to stay and hang out not if you're gonna treat me like this well how do you want me to treat you you'll get to hear Rob Saul like a lover perfect yeah yeah that's all right is that what we're doing now, Rob Saul? I would love to if we could. I love it, let's do it. Take it away, Adam. Rob announced that I was going to be on his show. He announced this without telling me or inviting me,
Starting point is 01:26:37 and then continued to do the whole show talking about WATP and about me and about my sexual relationships and inadequacies. And inadequacies, which you can just tell from looking at me. Like how, you know, they're specific. So it was a little eerie, but. Linkdick ambush. So we call them around. That's what they do.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Splinter. Basically, I was surprised to find out how Rob sees himself as a broadcaster. I always thought he was one thing and it turns out he's completely different. So here's him defining himself to us in clip number one. I mean, you don't have to be funny. Not everybody's a funny person, but it's even more painful when you try so hard to be funny. Not everybody's a funny person, but it's even more painful when you try so hard to be funny. Man, I do rant. You could say what you want, but I don't sit here and try to be funny and work on bits. I used to back in the day. I was on CBS radio, maybe not ABC radio caliber, WABC.
Starting point is 01:27:46 And this was actually the CBS, not the fucking conservative company that bought WABC. It's not like he's working for Disney. But yeah, I mean, and I've never billed myself as a comedian. I always see that like, this guy calls himself a comedian. No, go to one clip where I've called myself a comedian. But you know, if you do go to chat, GPT, and you ask about me, it'll tell you I'm a comedian. I guess because I've hung out with so many comics
Starting point is 01:28:17 over the years. Yeah. Nothing rubbed off on you. Chad GPT says he's a comedian. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that shit's gonna ruin society. So what I've been saying time and time again, don't trust AI. So he's not a comedian and these are not bits. So then what is this clip number two? It's not a bit. Now they're doing the old, from what I saw of this clip, they're pulling out usually
Starting point is 01:28:48 it's surely stealing material, but now Adam, not Adam Bush, she would Carl, lady K is pulling out the old surely maybe it was you. Cause I said him and Carl were lovers and he's like, Rob is fascinated with Adam Bush. Maybe it's you that's sexually attracted to Adam Bush. Maybe I'm not the one that's sword fighting with him every day. Maybe it's you. Yeah, so they're pulling out the old maybe it was you routine. That'll get you. And now they're a hero of the LGBTQ plus Peewee hermondite.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I saw this documentary came out. So they got the cars. Yeah, I know you are. But what am I? We got them. Boom. We don't fist bump. They don't even fist bump when they have a win.
Starting point is 01:29:37 They cock up. Adam Bush. And this is how I find out. All right. Boy boy here we are What the fuck glad you kept the end in there It's called journalism Vinnie. That's a journalism Well, what I don't understand about this is this is the guy who is wearing the shoely nose and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:30:06 He doesn't do bits. How is he going to sit there and say this with a straight face that he doesn't do bits? Well, we get it because we're professionals. I get it. His audience, if you pull up clip number three, I guess it's their fault. They don't get it and they think these are bits when really it's just reporting the facts as they come in. Yeah, he's definitely a loser comedian. Blame in the audience.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Hold on real quick. Two dollar John's Give Me Halloween hand says, Carl Adam gay bit is one you need to drop. Bad look. Yeah, I know. Yeah, they're the powerhouses in media. No, it's not a bad. It is a bad look, I guess, for them. The guy's married. This poor sex store of Jenny jingles, a craving cock while, uh, you know, Adam and, uh, and Carl are, are sword fighting. I mean, they're obviously lovers, allegedly. I mean, it's obvious to me, but, uh, I have no, uh, proof or confirmation, but
Starting point is 01:30:59 you know, you just know some things you just know, but thank you. John's skimpy Halloween. He's right. It makes a lot of good points. Yeah. When you got facts, you don't have to worry about bits. You're just reporting what's happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And he knows what's happening. Yeah, and I just know that at Hackamania, Adam and Carl, they were kissing in a closet and they were said at ESO porn. It was really fucked up and I knew what happened Awesome Rob great points you stink. So he's having trouble convincing us. He's having trouble convincing his chat He brings on mr. Pat Dixon. Yeah and tries to demonstrate not explained but demonstrate to him the difference between a bit and a paranoid delusion.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I mean, and you're saying W ATP does well, but they have Adam Bush trolling my chat room asking me questions so they can do clips. They have him doing that. I follow that. Yeah. You think that's it? Is that something they've organized? Yes. I always had the feeling he was just doing that on his own.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Shut the fuck up, you know, they send Adam Bush Yes. I always had the feeling he was just doing that on his own. Shut the fuck up. They send Adam Bush every time I do a show and he starts asking questions and try to get me talking. And then like today, a clip like, but didn't that what everybody in the chat's doing? Not everybody just, sir. Just asking questions and try to get you talking. I mean, full disclosure, I did see them talking to you on a clip today. Is that what you were about to bring up?
Starting point is 01:32:30 He asked you if you were dating anybody. Yeah. He asked questions to probe me and get me talking. Because before he asked me about my childhood, and I talked a little bit about it, but I'm always candid and honest. And they were like, oh, Rob Saw, he answered Adam Bush's question.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Oh, man, this guy's got a lot going on upstairs and trying to psychoanalyze me based on questions I asked about my childhood. So then when he came in. Oh, I see. They've done this before, and you're saying they kind of like it was a dirty trick. So now they're now they're acting like none of those clips happen. And it's just me randomly like, oh, my God, somebody asked me a question
Starting point is 01:33:12 and I'm going insane. Oh, OK. OK. Exactly. All right. I wasn't aware of that. That's interesting. Yeah. And they they don't put in the, me yelling and screaming probably about, you know, them fishing for material for their stupid show. Yeah, I saw, I saw Adam Bush was bragging on there today that he had more money than you and that like he wanted to put up $50,000 and shit. Oh, no, that wasn't that wasn't Adam Bush. Yeah. Somebody else.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Yeah, they definitely send Adam Bush to like fucking different chats, especially Rob's chat. When he's live and fuck with him. So they have content for sure. Yeah. Well, there he's not here tonight because I posted in the clip, I said, it'll be me and Adam Bush lingering in the chat. I mean, for material for WATP. No, you didn't, Rob. You said it'll be me and Adam Bush, join me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:34:18 You left out that part that you said there about in the chat, you just said it here to have an out for yourself. Oh, he was trying you know own you Yes, now. He said he has to talk about me because I'm always in his chat fucking with him. I'm not here Rob I'm not I wasn't even watching the show I got this afterwards I have nothing to do with this, but you're talking to me and responding to things That I'm not doing you said said very clearly, you were like, you're always candid, you're always honest,
Starting point is 01:34:47 but we keep doing this, so you had no idea it was coming? What was the trick? What was the trick? And by the way, I asked you, what keeps you up at night, and are you dating anyone? Those were two questions, and we're still talking about this. Tom Myers can answer that question very easily.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I love how he thinks there's like production meetings for W ATP, where he's like, here's a list of questions for Adam to go out and, or to go fucking ask Rob Saul. Adam just is fascinated by you, bro. You're such a fucking weirdo that you piqued someone's interest. That's all this is. And yep, you said it. And it's really amazing. People can't understand when something positive happens to them. And they have to just process it as a negative. KB is the same way. He doesn't these in the way we're talking about, he's decided how we're allowed to enjoy him, and
Starting point is 01:35:33 how we're allowed to take it in. And if it's not the way he wants, he'll just tell you he's not that because remember, none of this is comedy. And Pat has been trying to explain this to him in very nice ways and he's not getting it. And he tries really hard in this next clip and fails, but you gotta watch him try. I just, before you go to the next one, I just love how he's giving nasty Neil the Rob Saul treatment when he's got a bigger guest.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Like he's doing a nasty Neil that John used to do to him in Clay all the time when Ava Riza showed up. Yep, it's exactly right. You see it. They're just waiting and he's doing the same kind of humor, the same kind of deflection, the same everything. The time quad and Rob spent with John really rubbed off on them. They got all the negative instincts. And before we go too far too, his claims of CBS radio or whatever, what do you say, CBS or ABC? I've looked into this guy before. I've tried to find him. He did a show on blog
Starting point is 01:36:33 talk radio in like 2011 that I think was partially owned by CBS. Like that's his claim. Like he did a podcast early days I remember this blog talk radio was like a live streaming service that you had to pay for and I believe CBS was part owner of it. Yeah, that's his claim Okay, so he bought onto a service That was okay. Perfect. Very cool. Let's watch and that's where he did a show with his cousin Who fucked his wife and took his home and he's a banker just for the record Thank you for cleaning that up. Yeah, no, I thought you'd need it to know now always do Now I spell his last name for everybody Cardiff so we could continue doing the docs properly
Starting point is 01:37:21 Saul there it is, you know, yeah, I mean, but he used to, you guys used to work closely together. Like, he used to be like, you're Adam Bush. Yes. We were lovers. Oh, you don't think they're lovers, do you? Adam Bush and Carl. Legit, no way. Oh, listen, I, it's, you think there's any way they could not be lovers? I mean, yes. It's too ugly for the other one to fuck. Why she's just like cooking pizza. My wife, my piece of your house. They have a normal marriage. Come on.
Starting point is 01:38:02 They have a normal marriage. Come on Carl you're getting cranky If I had a woman who treated me that way I would hold on to her and never let her go Yeah, I know. I would be the best. I just wish she would fuck her. I mean, she just seems sexually starved. I mean, why is he sword fighting with Adam Bush? I feel like Jenny Jingles needs to, someone needs a little knock the dust off that thing.
Starting point is 01:38:36 This seems like fan fiction. Fan fiction. Well, is there anyone less- Why don't you have Adam Bush on? He's doing every show. You can stop it. There's nothing. Yeah. Is there anyone less qualified to comment on another man's marriage than Rob Saul? He's got cousin wife.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just relationships. He's not allowed to talk about people's relationships with their pets comfortably. Yeah, if he did the animal husbandry hour, I would might listen. But other than that, he has no expertise on anything to speak of that I could tell. But this isn't comedy. This is journalism. This is not a bit. That whole thing you just saw was reporting the facts.
Starting point is 01:39:15 That's all he's doing. And this next clip is my favorite. If I think it's the best one here, it it the first 20 seconds really reveal who Rob is. Even the shit that TSN, I know Rob hates TSN, but even the shit that they put up in the Sandusky network, the Sandusky network puts up. Yeah, come on, you're better than that, Rob. puts up. Yeah, come on. You're better than that, Rob. And Pat, actually, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I mean, how long have we known each other? The Karen Karen Karen Karen show. Yeah, so I'll take care and I'll. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. Like, like even that is so fucking boring. The listen to you. I don't I can't do it. Even that is so fucking boring. The listen to him, I can't do it. I mean, I stop. Even when they're making fun of him, you can't stand it.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah, it's different from John. I mean, I'm sorry, Rob. You can cut this, it goes on and on. Nothing ever changes. At some point, they go on to talk about how Rob really liked the interview I did with Chad, and he thought Chad was such a quote retard and slow and couldn't get when the joke was on him and it was so embarrassing for him and how could he not know he was being trolled and how could
Starting point is 01:40:32 he not realize he wasn't in on the joke and isn't that embarrassing for him and just lets it sit there. He takes in nothing that Pat says. He says, I think you're better than that. Rob says, no, I'm not. So that's who Rob is and Pat says. He says, I think you're better than that. Rob says, no, I'm not. So that's who Rob is. And Pat leaves. And that's all you get from him. And now that Pat is gone, he's free to run the show he wants to. And I think this next clip is a great example of the Rob Saul you'll get if you work at like a restaurant with him or
Starting point is 01:41:01 if you're one of his customers I think this is him. Come on. Jay Scherr. Master new. Number one 499 says Rob I saw Lady K's chat that they think your face looks swollen what causes that? Have you gained weight? Taking any meds causing that? God thank you. No, no I'm just getting fat that's all.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yeah. Working the two jobs I haven't been in the gym as much so So maybe I'm getting a little puffy. Hmm. My face is swollen Yeah, my balls are swollen when my dicks and your wife Mine to Our Myers take that line Did that earlier didn't they? What sucks like? He looks a little puffy.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, exactly. That's all I hear. That's all it sounds like. Why are they talking about this stuff? It looks like part of his face is kind of fucked up. Like he's got like some kind of scar. You mean the face? Yeah. He looks fucked up. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:00 No, you're allowed to say that, Vinny, because right at the top of the show, somebody asked him to do a bit, or some journalism, and he says, not now, maybe in about 20 minutes, I'll be up for it. What's going to happen in 20 minutes? That suddenly is going to change. Well, that's when the leaving for long periods of time starts, for really no reason we can come up with. In fact, Rob thinks it's going great. He thinks it's going so well that he's just going to let his co-host Mule,
Starting point is 01:42:33 is that who it is? Mule? There's Shine. And he does. I was just cleaning out my den and I found a picture that Taz drew. Let me go see. Now that I'm thinking about it, let me go find it. Hold me go see. I would, you know, now that I'm thinking about it, let me go find it. Hold on one second. Yeah, now you're thinking about it. I like how he wants us to believe he has a picture of my little Taz. Hey baby, you want to talk to me? Baby, you wanna talk to me? Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:03 I like you too. Taz. Go get some Taz in my butt hole. Get some Taz in my butt hole. Get some Taz in my butt hole. I hear a... Your laugh makes me wanna fucking grow up. Oh jeez.
Starting point is 01:43:24 This is Yeah, I don't think those drawings are why he left the room is that a picture of Pat Dixon fingering him What am I looking at? He had commissioned from a Mike Morse Yeah, I think, I think, I think Pat Dixon is doing the old anal chiropractic maneuver. Perfect. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:43:51 On old Ralph Soder. Either way, worth leaving us in silence and with Mule for, in terms of just putting on a show. Yeah, Andy took it out of the frame and everything. Mm-hmm. He fucking stinks. But you know what I notice about his voice, and I guess I've never really been on for a segment with him, he sounds like a human dog toy. How
Starting point is 01:44:09 does his voice go up so high so fucking quickly? You don't even know what you just said. No, I know what I said. But it's very accurate. If I make this squeaky sound, the dog puts its mouth on me more. Is the dog hitting the spot when his voice goes up that high? What the fuck is happening under the table? You see, it's not his fault that we sound like that Vinny. He's just calling it like it is putting up a mirror.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Yes, an audio mirror. Sorry if it's too much for you to take but he thought, you know, that bit went so well that he's going to double down on it and do it again and he really lets his co-host shine here. I need to get myself another drink. Get another drink, Robbie! You're gonna stop this boy from drinking. Alright, we're gonna talk about the fucking ends and the James.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Let me start with the James. Julie is a monkey. Oh, so we're talking about the ends. Right. Well, J word. She. All right. Gee, I gotta take the dogs out for a quick walk, guys. Listen, I'll bring you back on the moon. We're moving everything for a second.
Starting point is 01:45:36 May I really stay tuned? Don't go anywhere. What the fuck? So this next part, per your request, I sped up to 400% speed. Thank you. Just so everybody knows, this is 400% faster. The maximum I could speed this up. He's just ludicrous speed. This is ludicrous speed right now of the Saul show.
Starting point is 01:46:08 I don't know why he had to cut Mule off. I thought Mule was holding it down. You know guys, now that I'm looking at this, I don't think that's what his apartment looks like. Alright, we are back. I don't think that's what his apartment looks like. No, it's not. No, that's the den you have to see in the other room. Oh, got it, got it. Alright, we are back. We are back, I believe. Yes, take that. All right, you there, Mule?
Starting point is 01:46:37 Yes, all right. We're here, folks. Hello, everybody. We lost over 20 people during, but I had to take the dogs for a walk. Usually like if I have like multiple people on that can talk to each other, I'll just leave it going. I take the dogs for a walk, but nobody's popped up with the links I sent. So it's our fault. I see how it's our fault. It'll ruin their chances of their big break on the day. It goes on and on.
Starting point is 01:47:04 And how would they get into the room if the host is not there, even if they did show up with the link and he's disappeared from the computer? He has explained many times how he does not want me on his show. He won't have me on his show, how I need to stop asking him and stop negotiating. I've never asked. I've never negotiated. It's not me. Whoever's doing that. Adam always has a hard out. He's got a big meeting.
Starting point is 01:47:27 With that fan. If he'd see me, fuck that. See you guys. I'm going to start him. However, if you ever need someone to hold it down so you those dogs can pee, like you can reach out to me, buddy. I'm here for you. Please don't schedule your show around when the dogs need to go to the bathroom. Like I, that's all I'm thinking about now. Please don't schedule your show around when the dogs need to go to the bathroom. Like, I, that's all I'm thinking about now. Is that how they need to get out of there? The fact that you do that and don't think that is a warrant of criticism is pretty remarkable. Yeah, I gotta take out my dog wife.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yeah, it's great show. Great show, everybody. Great show, Rob. You got one more clip from him too, don't you? I do. I wanted to bring Pat back on here because Pat did something really remarkable. He managed to get Rob to answer the question I've been asking for the last couple weeks. And boy, does the answer explain a lot. The question is dating anyone? Oh, shit. explain a lot. The question is dating anyone? Oh, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Unless that's why I have been celibate as of lately, because I don't want to hear their voices of listen, Rob, we need to talk. You know, once you're getting pussy, sometimes you're like, I got to put up with these talks. But yeah, don't use words like celibate. It makes it sound like it's something that happened in a test tube or something. I haven't gotten laid in a while. Thank you. Pell.
Starting point is 01:48:53 L almost like a text just saying, call me. Ah, yes. Celibate makes it sound like you did it on purpose. Yeah. Like he had a choice in the matter is really what he's trying to create the illusion of. Or again, there was a more greater purpose to you not having sex. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Like he was just... And there's a word for people that are involuntarily celibate, isn't there? Well, what's that word? Well, it would be an incel. And it would be a word that is bandied about among people that are angry and hostile about sexuality and others on the internet. So it's not being bandied about in this particular instance. Yeah, but incels usually go on places
Starting point is 01:49:35 calling women cunts all the time. That's not this guy. At hack-a-mania. That's what I'm saying. They generally have a lot of hatred towards women. I don't see that at all from Rob. Right? there's no jealousy towards other people and did you see the way he blushed when he said that's kind of like your Adam Bush, huh? He just started giggling and he got all like red-faced Rob are you in love with me?
Starting point is 01:49:57 Because I might be in love with you. This might be a chance for both of our lives We can maybe turn this whole thing around if you would ever invite me on your show. But I thought it was very impressive that Pat managed to get that out of him. I always think it's incredible the things that Rob reveals about himself without knowing and how he's gonna blame this episode on me when I wasn't even there is gonna be very interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:20 And I'll leave this with to Pat and to everyone who is watching. When it comes to people like Rob, when they tell you who they are, when they say, no, I'm not better than that, we should believe them. Ah, there goes Adam again trying to use psychology on me. Makes me think I have a chance if I have him on. He's just a tease. Well, it's only one way to find out.
Starting point is 01:50:41 But I'm not asking. I'm not asking. Oh, Cardiff left. Awesome. Well, we did cover him during his'm not asking. I'm not asking. Oh, Cardiff left. Awesome. Well, we did cover him during his best line, so I think it was out of the disrespect we showed him. What is that? Get out of here, potato. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:55 All right, so what's next? Please tell me we're going to talk about Opie. Please do it. Hit that music. As Opie continues his Holden-Coffield-like descent from depression into madness on the streets of Central Park in New York City. I'm starting to wonder if outside of Gephardt's, is Opie allowed in any place that's 21 and older? Will they let him in?
Starting point is 01:51:33 Because it seems like the only places he goes to are places that he can get into free and that kids are allowed. You know, that's a very good point. And I have to wonder because he seems to enjoy inappropriate behavior in public Like he really leans into it. So I assume there's been times where he's been thrown out where his camera wasn't rolling like I mean, I think What absolutely right because there was a you see in this video at some point He's looking for people in the park, but he's not looking for people walking
Starting point is 01:52:02 He needs people that are working that can't leave. He needs people at their job that will be obligated to stay there and talk to him. Well, that's just smart. He doesn't want to get punched. But you remember when Carl was alive, not the dead one who got killed over the hamburger pan. So we're covering up his death right now. The other Carl Ruiz Ruiz or Ruiz, whatever it was, he was like in the kitchen calling his staff, Olaz. Opie can't possibly be like, allowed everywhere. There's gotta be people who say,
Starting point is 01:52:35 get the fuck out of here and don't come back. I would imagine he would show that clip first if he had any good ones. But you see the second nowadays, he gets a little like push back, he kind of runs away and then says his little quip while running away. Which is really sad. But he's got nothing. He's got nothing. This is 40 minutes of a lonely man walking around a park during the day with no friends and nothing to do. However, he does open real strong with this. It sounds like paradise to me, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Livestream as we, uh, we walk around New York city and try to find cool stuff, man. Hope everyone's having a good day. Jesus Christ. Oh So I'm sir, you got some great playing going on I fucking hate that. Adam, that is so annoyed. Why is this a show? Why is he putting this out? What's what's really cruel about it is that he and he doesn't even feel it is that that guy is expecting a tip, OP. That's why he started playing, because you started dancing. He thinks you're going to give him money, not just run away.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Does he give him? Yeah, but I don't think you guys are understanding what this is. This is Central Park in New York City, guys. OK. Go on. So that's it. Well, he's unleashed, right? Like, this is him unleashed. He's just fucking over buskers for no tip. Yeah, that's the joke. He's promoting him. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:54:36 He's discovering him. That's why the shot's really wide and we can't see who it is and get his name or have a CD or anything. I'm going to move to you. Mustard? I got to tell you, after hearing this guy play New York, New York, he sits there for the entire song. And then just as it's ending, he walks away
Starting point is 01:54:52 and he's inspired, Opie, by what he just heard. Jesus. I hate that song. Frank Sinatra warned us that if you could make it here, you could make it anywhere and then he says it's up to you New York New York basically what he's saying is look man I'm from Jersey I want to live in New York City hell no if I wasn't a big huge crooner big star in movies I wouldn't live in New York City it's a hellhole
Starting point is 01:55:18 it's a hustle it exhausts the New Yorkers oh Oh man, that was a fine rendition. Good morning everybody. What's up John Quartz down there in Philly? He's fucking turning into Holden Caulfield. You're not wrong. No. He hates this city and that's his show. It's just like when he was with Anthony again. The whole show is something he hates. He's drawn to it like an addiction. If you hate it, get out of there. You said that sounds like a lovely day for you.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Yeah, if you weren't obligated to also support your family while you were having that off day with these tools that you had, then you'd feel a lot of fucking pressure and be miserable. Like a man in search of a show. He's a lifetime New Yorker's a lifetime New Yorker. A lifetime New Yorker. And in this next clip, he really goes out of his way
Starting point is 01:56:10 to show you that he always has a plan and that he knows all the cool secret spots that only New Yorkers know. You can't do that. But there you go. That was a good way to start the live stream. I think we're near a museum. Let's go in front of the museum.
Starting point is 01:56:32 It's not my favorite museum. Just so you guys know, this is New York City. It's one of the most fancy ones. I don't see a leash either. I'm going to be watching the three bears. Is that the big apple? Where's Goldie? Go back to the...
Starting point is 01:56:42 Womp-a-na-na-na. Womp-a-na-na. It's called the group. Where's Golden? Womp-a-na-na-na. Wa-wa-wa. It's called a group, a group of bears. Paul Manship, 1885 to 1966. A gift by Samuel N. Friedman in memory of his beloved ad hoc. Yeah, it goes on and on.
Starting point is 01:57:02 He's just gonna read these things, nothing's gonna happen. Oh, man! You can stop it. He's got nothing. His big idea is oh there's a museum or whatever he calls it that's his tip on New York that's they'll go look at the museum that is as fucking stupid as a goddamn soccer mom calling a Tarjay stop it Opie that's awful, dude. Stop it, please. It just doesn't make any sense to me that he could do this. And if you can get to the
Starting point is 01:57:31 next clip, which is at six minutes, I know people say that I compare everyone to John, and I do because I think there's a lot of similarities between people that are in this low cal situation and that have shows like this commenting on their every move. However, I think you'll give me a pass on this next one. How else can you explain what he's doing right here to me if it's not John? Assad, people live downtown. Downtown!
Starting point is 01:57:59 Man, I think we could have a hit with downtown. Downtown. Shoot. And you guys, you picked the best day You like have a hit with downtown. Downtown. What? Shoot. And you guys, you picked the best day to check out my live stream. Cause I'm about to have my last sneeze of the allergy season.
Starting point is 01:58:17 It's gonna. Woo! Woo! You got it there. Holy shit. You never know when it's your last sneeze of allergies. You have to savor those moments. Never let them go. I mean, please, Cardiff.
Starting point is 01:58:34 I've talked to, like, I've had conversations with Opie and I actually do, I'm a, I love New York. I'm a New York Mark. Like I love New York. I love the city. I love the architecture the history whatever. I told my goal. Make a fucking book i go take pictures of new york and and and put like make a fucking coffee table book open your coffee table book.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Because it's it's this stream without all the nothing in the middle. Right like show me your York through OP's eyes. It would at least be some thing more than what he's doing. I don't know if he'd make money. I'm not stupid. But it would be something. Yeah, it could. And I think he thinks he's taking your advice. I really do.
Starting point is 01:59:20 That's the only explanation for why he's doing this, because this is New York from sorry guys And I wish he would just stop talking and just let it be a live stream them and just let us have that on in The background and stop bothering people he thinks this is New York through his eyes He he gives little you know, he reads all the statues Reads all the signs he points out any landmarks. He can remember as if he's showing New York to us. I'm just surprised how little he knows about it, how much he hates it, and how boring it is from his perspective. Yeah, people who work jobs for a long time and then lose them and then end up like, they
Starting point is 01:59:56 have that first couple of days of like relief of like, wow, I don't have that pressure. But then like day four, you have to look for something to do. And this motherfucker never did. Right? No. I'm sorry. Did he? No, did he? Wasn't there something? Say you have the number one podcast for a day and a half.
Starting point is 02:00:21 That's true. That's true. All right. I'll shut up now. He's but no, he's not taking any of this as clues to maybe shift gears or do something else. I've wondered because I know that you you talk to Opie sometimes and I'll never forget that appearance you guys did together.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Can you tell us anything about what that's like? If you have insight into what's going on in his head and if it's different than this thing we're seeing right here, can you tell us? No, he never lets me get that. Does he talk to you in those voices? Is he like, hello, yeah, yeah, a little bit backstage a little bit.
Starting point is 02:00:51 He he'll he'll do the voice. He'll do he's he's a little he's animated, but that's the the the interactions off off stream were very, very limited, very much again, very much like John. Like very much like John. Like very much like John. He just, you're telling me he's not messing with us and he just accidentally wrote what he thinks is a hit song called Downtown and then sneezed loudly without covering his face on people walking by?
Starting point is 02:01:18 That's, he's not trolling us with that? I think so. It's so legit. Then we are creating monsters. And it is an army of very specific, unhygienic, boring monsters. It's true. Like, go look at the homeless people in New York. Go find them. Go wander around. Like, show us something interesting.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah, that'd be great. I mean, I spend this whole 40 minutes with him and he doesn't find one thing we can even skip some of this because it's just all the same thing. Go to 1247 and working my intellect just running out of ideas left and right. He doesn't know what to do. Because if you don't abide by the tree rules, a branch could fall from the sky and hit you on the noggin. Which wouldn't be a bad thing in my case, because it would knock a little, knock a little anyone, anyone, anyone, knock a little sense into me, sure. Loving the hat, that hat rocks. Nope. All
Starting point is 02:02:26 right. Yeah, cut it. This is it. He's got nothing. This is the show. This is what's happening. Nice hat. Yeah, nice hat. Wow. Has anyone ever said is that Greg Opie Hughes while he's doing this? Ever happened? I think one time somebody recognized him, but they recognized him because of WATP. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 02:02:49 And it was because of his voice. Right. They didn't know who he was from Opie and Anthony. They're just like, are you Opie? Wasn't he walking into some theater or something that wasn't open, Chris? Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:01 It's happened, Adam. It's happened. I really want to see if somebody knows him for him and then sees what he's doing now and then takes that in. Back to this meandering around, Anthony said have a destination. Look at Google Maps. You know, this walking in between, this is the stuff that should be cut for sure, and the stuff that he curates and puts out is utter garbage. Agreed?
Starting point is 02:03:31 No, I'm leaving you out to hang the way you all left me out to hang a few minutes ago. Oh, okay. Fair enough. I didn't hear the question, and I was pretending like I did, and then I asked you to repeat it, and we had moved on, so that was on me.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Okay. I just don't wanna speak out of turn. That was for your question, Vinny. But if you go over to 1444, you know how dogs have like a really good sense of people and who they are? Sure. Well, that's on display right here. Like I said, you don't really see a lot of golden doodles in New York City. It's weird. Oh my god. Hi, little, hi. OK, go fuck yourself. Oh, that's what he does. Back to the show.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Wow. To be fair, that dog was running away from Rob Saul. You said the joke before I could. I don't have time for this. But he couldn't even say it to the dog's face, right? He had to say it running away. Nice hat, dog. Yep. So if you keep this going, what's really sad is that he ends up in the same place he started.
Starting point is 02:04:41 So just back in the tunnel making the high sounds he's just made a little circle and run out of ideas and it's about 20-15 minutes in that this happens but we can skip that and go right over to 2032. It's called a callback Adam. You're right you're right there's so much I have to learn about comedy from you guys. It's not comedy, it's radio. You gotta redo it in the eight o'clock hour. This is anti-comedy. Oh, damn, there's no step here, yo. I thought there was a step there.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Don't look him in the eye. Margarita de la Carte foundation May 7th 1959 Yeah, had they knows you'd be doing that This iconic I don't know why You can stop it right there. I don't know what happened if for happened if for those listening, there were some some younger people, some teenagers there. So, Opie dropped the, hey, look out for that step yo. And when he said yo, they all looked at him like, why are you talking to us and so Hello, fellow kids. Exactly. He got he got real self conscious. And he started talking in his real voice for a little bit. Leave us alone.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Narc. Yes. Do you know where I can buy some drugs? No. It was really, really revealing in a very subtle way. But if you get down to the last clip here on 3721, it ends on a high note. I don't believe you, Adam. I think he knows how sarcastic. How dare you? What kind of man what kind of turtle oh god what's on the side of the turtles face what is that? Thank you Like a hamster like a heart like a hamster. Yeah, I think you might be right Let me look at this the turtle Like a hamster. Like a hamster, yeah, I think you might be right. Let me look at this.
Starting point is 02:07:06 The turtle has like a giant thing on the side of its... It's got purple lips. It's like got a goiter. And it's going the other way too. Look at it go. I'll be over here. We are live live. Yeah, this place is like packed with tuttles.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Not even the British are safe. That was cool. All right, I'll give you a view. There, now you don't have to come to New York, okay? Give you a view. You saw the turtle. Yeah. You saw the park saw park good and the two towers Right now cancel a trip to New York
Starting point is 02:07:54 You buy the tourism board Throw it to an AI Photography thing and you got a pic. Holy shit it out to an AI photography thing and you gotta pick. Holy shit. He taps it out. He ends it pretty much there. And I gotta say, listen, the only thing that would make all of this make sense is if right at the end you just heard off camera,
Starting point is 02:08:17 love you dad, this has been the best day. And then like that would make sense. Oh, okay, it wasn't a waste. He was spending time with his kid This was all this nice thing. If his kids not there, he's alone His kids are too old for this at best this feels like a children's show I've had no kid would want to watch but that's like meant for them real slow and Dumb and just high-pitched voices over and over again
Starting point is 02:08:43 I bet he had a big laugh on Tuttle once with his kids. Yeah, he got a big laugh on that with his kids once. Yeah. Yo, for real. And that would be the only explanation for this. Otherwise, it's just like a horror movie and you turn around and there's no kid there. It's just he's holding this raggedy Andy doll
Starting point is 02:08:58 and you're just, everybody screams. It's some Sixth Sense shit, right? Like, it's just a real problem. M. Night Shyamalan presents Opie. M. Night plays the straw doll. It'll be great movie. I'll watch it. We got some clips from Carl that he sent in to to didn't he, Adam? But Carl. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:19 So here he actually pulled some other clips from that last show at Gebhart's from our good friend Ron the waiter. Did you watch any of these in advance, Adam? Oh, I did not. Okay. Well, I meant to ask Tom about Ron the waiter. I was curious if they ever thought of teaming up. I would use my mentor. I would book that. There we go. See, now now we're talking it'd be in the hallway behind the club I'd actually put up a tent like they had for John for Ron the waiter and Tom I do it All right, you'll have to wait tables though. You'll make them serve still lower Yes, of course. Okay
Starting point is 02:09:59 well I'm gonna guess Ron the waiter. I'm gonna he experience waiting tables. Tom, he's staying in the kitchen. Rocks have consciousness. Everything has consciousness. This glass has consciousness. So I'm eating somebody else. Matter has consciousness. I kind of agree with him.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Matter has consciousness. A very, very minute level. Yes, everything has consciousness. By the way, rocks have consciousness. Everything has consciousness. Remember? Is that rock? Trees. And by the way?
Starting point is 02:10:26 Okay, we okay. I called you okay By the way you brought it up all right, let me challenge you what's your what's your favorite song about trees Awesome awesome follow-up man, it has consciousness. What's your favorite song about trees? Where did they steal the woman from? If Opie was trying to make this guy a character, which is what I think he would normally be doing if there was other voices, a producer or someone in his head trying to give him guidance, you would say, this guy is ridiculous. Play into it. Let him explain himself. Rope a dope, for Christ's sake, Opie.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Instead, he's just asking the dumbest FM radio question you could come up with. What's your favorite song about trees calling now? Fifth prize gets a free car. First, fifth caller gets a free car wash. There's this meme about this girl named Nina who's like in some experiment and she's young, they're kids and she like really needs all the attention and you can see she's kind of never been in a social setting before. She's wearing these overalls and she needs all the attention so she keeps kind of saying her name Nina, Nina, Nina, getting everyone to look and at some point We're not paying attention to her. She goes. Does somebody want to quiz me on ocean facts?
Starting point is 02:11:49 Somebody should quiz me on ocean facts. That's Opie. He's like the kid going like oh Let's play a name name songs with trees in them go and you have to go or or you know, you're mean Also, he knows the answer He's waiting for his turn. Oh, Opie heard a song about trees and he wants to tell everybody what it was. Probably called Trees. Okay, well, this next clip, Carl labeled as Ron's answer.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Let's find out. Go. The only thing that's coming to mind about trees and gardens is an octopus's garden. That's not a tree. That's a garden. Hold on, trees? How about Screaming T trees? I love that man
Starting point is 02:12:28 Their best song is dollar bill by the way Not nearly lost you check out dollar bill You just got schooled Ron I'm checking to make sure I don't have screaming trees in my Apple music Who's the guy on the right that little that Littlefoot? Is that his name? I don't know. I have no clue. He wants out of this. It's so funny watching his reactions. Well, this is abjectly horrible to be sitting next to. Oh, you think?
Starting point is 02:12:57 We were there, Chris. Do you remember how small that area is that they're sitting right now? Oh, yeah. It's very cramped and they're just being loud. I would couldn't handle two seconds of this. Now, apparently the Opster celebrated a birthday, so we would all at WATP like to wish you the happiest of birthdays, Opie. Congratulations. Go back to work. It's a 12 foot statue of a black woman. Not meant to be beautiful.
Starting point is 02:13:20 OK, was Mona Lisa beautiful? Yeah. Happy birthday to you. Okay, was Mona Lisa beautiful? Great show Nobody saw that did they I am so sorry everybody that that's okay here. Let's just cut it again She's asking the questions about beautiful. Okay, was Mona Lisa beautiful? Hell no. Happy birthday to you. He's a waiter. Yeah. What I like to hear is let's just rewind a little bit.
Starting point is 02:13:58 Look at that face. I haven't seen that man smile like that since he had corned if and Cardiff on Wow, he's legitimately touched here. This is incredible and sweet. I Love how we followed it up with give me your favorite songs about birthday cakes go Give me your favorite song about candles He mentioned something when he was roaming through the park about, uh, he had his birthday week end and then now it's getting extended to a birthday week.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Apparently it's something that happened to him. It got extended to the week so now he's celebrating it all week. I know more about his birthday than my own. And you're right, this meant a lot to him because this is the only people we ever see him around that talk to him willingly. Oh, well, did you notice how that woman instinctually knew how to address the camera and the host and everyone like so comfortably just knew how to own the space as he lives in overqualified, overqualified
Starting point is 02:15:00 for this room and Opie and Ron just shrunk away as they couldn't compete with her just ability to Be on camera a good girl our uh Our buddy you rock is chiming in the chat. He says this is pot talk even stoners don't want to have Just ride it Opie just ride the wave buddy shut up here we go. Happy birthday dear Obi! Happy birthday to you! Thank you! Throw it out! Yay!
Starting point is 02:15:59 Stomp the cake. Stomp the cake. Stomp the cake. I wish Obi had really burned Ron. That would have been great. Yeah, unfortunately, he just wished for Anthony to get hit by a bus. So that's kind of sad. But if I didn't know any better that this was in a bar, it looks like an AA meeting birthday party, doesn't it?
Starting point is 02:16:19 It just feels kind of sad. It sounds like a children's birthday party. Only children need that kind of volume and attention and like forced positivity to get them to be happy because it's almost nap time. Like they knew, get him to smile, we gotta be real big on this. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:16:36 I noticed that Ron the waiter should be played by Joaquin Phoenix in the movie, by the way. I noticed that. One last clip and I wonder who he's going to talk about in this last clip. Who can he never get through an episode without talking about everybody? Let's guess. I want to get that statue, drive to South Carolina and put it in Anthony's yard. That's what I'm going to say. Oh wow, you went there. Oh yeah, why not? How about we end with, fuck Anthony. Wow, you went there. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:02 Why not? How about we end with fuck Anthony. F that guy. Yeah. Fuck that guy. I'm gonna fuck that miserable prick. We're gonna drop a giant black chicken on your lawn. Guys, thanks for this fuck.
Starting point is 02:17:12 The birth, oh my god. Guys. Thank you. I wanna get that. You assholes gotta tell me. This thing keeps fucking up. I hit the button and it didn't switch. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Who can he never stop talking about? Here it is, my fault. I wanna get that statue, drive to South Carolina, and put it in Anthony's yard. That's what I'm going to do. Oh wow, you went there. Oh yeah, why not? How about we end with, fuck Anthony. F that guy.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Yeah, fuck him. The miserable prick. We're going to drop the giant black jacob in your arms. Guys, thanks for the surprise. The birth, oh my God, thank you. The balls of him to call anyone miserable. Yeah. Yeah. This is the happiest birthday of my life. And fuck Anthony. Oh, I mean, F Anthony. It's like the end of a fucking Charles Dickens novel. I wish happy with himself. Fuck everyone. Fuck everyone, everyone.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Man, he needs a new hobby. He needs a hobby. Yeah, right. Yeah. He really needs a friend. Just one friend to talk to, to bounce shit off of. There's big OP news today. What is it?
Starting point is 02:18:22 You haven't heard about the OP Greg, OP Hughes Burning Bridges documentary that was released today. I Did see some of this I didn't know I generated feels very AI is that the one? Yeah, the video is all AI so house of rebellion I'm just gonna plug house of rebellion on YouTube put out a part one an hour and 20 minutes It's compiled a whole bunch of op OP clips put together the the OP story So I want everyone to check that out house of rebellion. Did you feel it had a very positive OP spin in the beginning? I Don't I don't feel there was much of a spin at all. Okay, what I watched it was it was I think part one
Starting point is 02:18:59 We're just telling the story who knows where it goes on part 72 Tell them the story who knows where it goes on part 72 But I think they were just telling the open store capturing compiling all the opi stuff this clips of opi in Rochester You guys are gonna love it. Is he in there with wheeze? Yeah, wheeze wheeze makes an appearance. Okay. Okay. I'll watch that Chicken, ooh, all right. Well, thank you for joining us Card Cardiff. I think we have a game we're going to play. We have a game. Why don't we bring Annie on? Let's do that.
Starting point is 02:19:28 She can play with us. Hi, Annie. Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Have you enjoyed the show so far? It's been great having no Carl. Awesome. What's the best part about having no Carl?
Starting point is 02:19:42 The fact that he's not here. Yeah. So nothing stand out about our performance just happy that Carl's not here. Don't put me on the spot Vinny. Sometimes that's enough you know the removal of one person can be the greatness of others. Really changes. Nice to watch. Nice for me to watch WHTP without a boner for once. Gets painful after a while. Carl or Carter are we keeping you around for this? Are you leaving? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:09 You want me to leave? No. No, I'm just wondering. You started the game, and now we're going to watch it with you here. It's weird. Yeah, we've done that. That's the best.
Starting point is 02:20:17 That's how we do it. You ever watch the show? He likes to watch. Don't you know that? He's as smug as me. I'll lose. That's what the joy is in it for him. And ladies and gentlemen, just for the record Carl loses
Starting point is 02:20:26 Because he's not here to play an automatic loss. I actually get an extra point on the creep off for this It's time for everyone's favorite wait It should be no I've had a great time today stop stepping all over yourself Why do you have to even sandbag yourself? It's what he does. This is where he gets hard too. This is the thing that turns him on. He likes hearing his voice mixing with his own voice.
Starting point is 02:20:53 It's a... What do you say, ladies and gentlemen? And Adam Bush? Are you ready to find the bomb? Playing Two Minutes with Tom. But I travel a lot. One of my favorite places to travel to is Pennsylvania. I love traveling to Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:21:14 Why? Because you can buy fireworks there. Not just those little, ooh, look at these sparkly stuff. That's the only thing you can buy in Maryland. But no, you go to Pennsylvania, you can buy fireworks. I love that. They have this one fireworks stand up in Pennsylvania. Guy there's very knowledgeable, helped me out a lot. I came in there, asked him some questions. I wanted to ask him some questions. He says to me, listen any questions you want to ask you can go ahead and ask me.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Alright, I've been dealing with fireworks for five years. Okay, believe me I know everything there is to know about. But on a serious note, he turned to me and he said, listen, I'm gonna give you some advice, no matter what you do. Whenever you lighten up fireworks, always point those things away from your face, all right? Because if they go off near your face,
Starting point is 02:21:58 it could affect your eyesight and you go blind. You only got two eyes, so be careful where you point the fireworks, all right? And I said, well, thank you, sir, but What did Tom say next? Here are your choices number one Those are cucumbers B
Starting point is 02:22:16 I'm a professional comedian. I know how to handle explosives Next I just needed directions back to the interstate. Four. I'm over here. And lastly, that's not a cigar you're lighting sir. Two minutes with Tom. Okay. Ed Lishan. Oh, it's dummy! Jesus. I'll go first. I think it's four or five.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Okay. Now you sound like Carl. Pick one. Yeah, I know. I'll go with Lastly. All right. Lastly, that's not a cigar you're lighting. Very good.
Starting point is 02:22:59 See, I was going to go with that as well because that is the dumbest of the possible answers, and it seems like the Tom thinking out of the box for Tom, so I'm gonna go with Lastly as well. Very good. I mean, there is an argument for B just because he would, you know, comedians bomb, but he wouldn't wanna say that, so he switches it to explosives,
Starting point is 02:23:23 and now it's not funny anymore, but it works in his mind. So he goes for it. So I'm just putting that out there. If he also needs to tell this audience that he's a pro-comedian. Annie, what do you say? Do you want to work on that level? Next because it's not funny at all.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Yeah, none of them are funny. They could all be, Tom. I'm also going with four. Didn't someone say four? Oh no, Adam, you switched to five. Very good. So we got two last leaves, a next and a four. All right, let's find out the answer.
Starting point is 02:23:54 Listen, I'm going to give you some advice no matter what you do. Whenever you're lighting off fireworks, always point those things away from your face, all right? Because if they go off near your face, it could affect your eyesight and you go blind. You only got two eyes, so be careful where you point the fireworks, alright? And I said, well thank you sir, but I'm over here. He said, oh! That's my time, you guys have been great. Took him that long to get there.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Have a good night! That was his closer. Yeah. The episode was brought to you was closer. Yeah, that was those. I believe the answer. That's a child's joke. It's so fucking bad. What I dislike about that the most is the outfit and the hair. I know he looks like if Ralphie Sifiretto's kid who got hit with a lawn
Starting point is 02:24:38 dart took up stand up comedy. Wow. I was going to say if Steve Buscemi joined, I can go boingo. Wow, I was gonna say if Steve Buscemi joined, oh I can go boingo. Hahaha, okay. Alright, I see it. Either way, none of it's great. Cardiff Electric's new YouTube channel. Go there and subscribe right now at Cardiff Elect. You won't be disappointed.
Starting point is 02:24:58 Unless you actually watch something. Sit Eugene, sit. Good dog. something sit Eugene sit good dog good stuff good job fantastic is this the part where we do the what have we learned in the piano music plays any we got a reviews I have one from us for us comes in from May 3rd from cruise and check it says Kumi a country the number two I Carly recap podcast on the internet these girls really bring the funny It's five-star I assume that reviewer is talking about me and Carter. Yeah, we all assume that That's definitely a five star. Definitely a five star.
Starting point is 02:25:47 All right. I feel good. Well, aren't you glad you got out of bed for that, Eddie? Yeah. It was amazing. Thank you. Read it again. OK, OK.
Starting point is 02:25:57 All right, so it comes to. Ew. What have we done? Done it all. We've done it all, Chris. We talked to Tom Myers. We said our last condolences to the great Lisa Boswell RIP. We covered Opie.
Starting point is 02:26:16 We covered Rob Saul. We've done it all. We really have. There's one thing we forgot to do though, and this is a big one, and we forgot to do it at the start of the show, but we have a little bit of a celebration here today. I forgot to mention it. Thank you to everybody You subscribe to W ATP this YouTube channel today hit 30,000 subs. So thank you everybody for making that happen. We appreciate you Thank you. Yeah, everybody else thinks you should go fuck yourselves, but I'm clapping for you. Thank you Thank you. Did it we all did it together all of us mostly us
Starting point is 02:26:46 How about that teaser buddy? We did it in spite of Carl now. Let's do before we get out of here today Let's hit Teaser The teases coming up this Saturday in studio with Carl. The great Jim Florentine returns to the show. And by the way, I will plug this farm. He is going to be in Rochester performing four shows Friday and Saturday night right here in Comedy at the Carlson. The room right behind this wall is where Jim Florentine will be.
Starting point is 02:27:23 You get your tickets now at Carlson Comedy.com for that and also definitely check out Jim's podcast. He's hysterical All right Anything else we're gonna do Lisa. Yeah, this was for Lisa. That's what we did today. We did it for her. Amen Any where can we find you? If you're interested in watching me play Red Dead 2 go to insanity comms got all my links there very Fantastic and that's that that has been w ATP this week. Thank you everybody See you next week. I gotta go. Bye. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go Okay, bye.
Starting point is 02:28:05 Okay, folks. Guess what? The episode's over! I can't get enough of my butt. Okay, bye. Stunk fart! Alright. Four inches is fine!

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