Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep629 - Dave Portnoy vs. Jokes, TFATK in Texas, StutJo's Divorce, Aaron Imholte

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Dave Portnoy went off on Kirk Minihane last week with his hot take that in the current climate you shouldn’t be allowed to make jokes about Jewish people. This has backfired as Crack Amico drops another banger teaching Dave the importance of free speech. Then Blind Mike gets a bunch of shrapnel for some reason.  Adam Busch and Producer Chris are on to watch Chad Zumock fire back at Anthony Cumia. Steel Toe accuses me of trying to get his  golf tournament canceled. Tom Myers posted his interview on WATP with his full commentary… he has exactly two things to say. On The Fighter and the Kid, Brendan Schaub is miserable in Texas because of bugs and weather and parking garages. Skinny Chad dropped his interview with me on a new episode of Conspire a Theory. An AI Maddox tries to get our Boston show canceled. Stuttering John was interviewed last weekend and followed his very important “Always Be Bashing” method of discussing his career. Cardiff joins the show and we listen to StutJo discuss his divorce on a podcast from 2017. Review girls Megan and Annie join the show to play another round of “2 Minutes with Tom,” read reviews, and listen to voicemails.  Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Tickets on sale for the Magic Bag on September 12th – https://www.themagicbag.com/concerts-magicbag/who-are-these-podcasts-hide-september-15-2023-hide Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Adam’s new project – Jamie Levine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dNEZSherbA Annie’s website – https://www.insanneity.com/ Cardiff’s YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@cardiffelect  Watch the episode here: https://youtube.com/live/3-sHdAftp2c  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And aside from the youtuber who was gunned down streaming while another youtuber was streaming and gunning him down The most viral thing that happened recently was Dave Portnoy versus Kirk Minahan we have the whole saga to dissect and discuss. The Unnamed Show is the podcast that is hosted by Kirk Minahan, Dave Portnoy, and Ryan Whitney, a Barstool production, and these guys get on once a week and talk life, politics, sports. It's a guy show, it's guy stuff.

Guy stuff. You know how that works. Well, they got into it because Dave Portnoy had this incident occur at a restaurant that he owns where you can, when you get bottle service, you can have a little sign show up above your table and write whatever you want on it. And some guy wrote, kill the Jews.

And so Dave was not happy about that, kicked him out and made a pretty big fuss about it. Went online, talked about who the guy was, offered him a trip to Auschwitz to try to change his mind about his stance on things and change his mind on that. Well, anyway, so Dave's very sensitive about the plight of the Jews right now.

I don't know if you know what's going on in the world, but there's people out to harm them for various reasons. And so he doesn't have the reason. Do you want to explain the reasons or do we want to get into the backstory? Letting Hamas in on October 7th. Number 10. Anyway, I'm kidding. So it starts off, they're talking about making jokes about Jewish people.

And for whatever reason, Dave has decided that this is not a free speech issue. Even though Dave talks about every day, Portnoy over the years, holy shit, controversial figure. And never apologizes for shit. But this one's hitting close to home, I guess. His first reaction is to go to, Hey, Rabbi Portnoy, relax. You made jokes, you're saying, 20 years ago. Are you out of your mind? Are you that demented?

Someone on Twitter referred to him as Rabbi Portnoy. That really set him off on this one. And this was a guy that I guess Kirk was going to have on the show to debate with Dave. And Dave was not having that. Are you that demented on what's going on in the world right now? Guess Kirk was gonna have on the show to debate with Dave and Dave was not having that Are you that demented of what's going on in the world right now? I'm fully aware of what's

For 20 years ago with what's going on right now in the world That's my point see the difference my point is my point is can you see the different words their words their words? Okay, they are words, they are words. No, honestly, a guy on Twitter tweeting. When does words, when does freedom of speech become. A guy tweeting at you, you asked me the question. A guy tweeting at you, Rabbi Portnoy. I find to be harmless.

I find to be harmless. Some guy tweeting at you, Rabbi Portnoy. I find it harmless. When does freedom of speech impose on freedom of religion? How many people have to get murdered? How do people have to get murdered? How many people have to get murdered? Jokes don't kill people. Dave seems to have this very confused.

It reminds me of the Netflix protest over Dave Chappelle, where it's like Dave Chappelle is causing trans people to be drug out into the street and murdered. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, jokes don't do that. That's not how that works at all. It's not like someone is like, I, no, jokes don't do that. That's not how that works at all. It's not like someone is like, I'm wishy washy on the Jews. I'm not sure what to think. And someone makes a really good joke and they're like, oh yeah, we should definitely start

a war against those people. That's a pretty good joke. It doesn't make any sense. This is what he's arguing right now with Kirk Minahan. And Kirk concedes right here that hey I am not as passionate about this as you are obviously I don't necessarily have a dog in this race so I understand why you're more passionate about it and Dave's like not hearing the conversation is just lashing out at Kirk on this one.

And honestly I get the issue I don't get as well as you do you're you're you're more passionate about than I am I understand., I'm sorry. My Jews are getting killed every three seconds. That's not a criticism. That's not a criticism. You're demented then. I just said it's not a criticism. I understand why you're centering on it. Of course you care about it more than I do. Kirk, you're acting like right now people making Jew jokes is just the same as 15 years ago. No, but my thing is when you tell people stop making jokes stop doing this. What what does that accomplish? That's a great question

Right there. What does that accomplish telling people not to do something? But it's interesting that Kirk goes listen I know I'm not as passionate about this as you are and all David was fuck you Dave Yeah, because he like lashed out at that right back after that. It's like no no no that's not a criticism I'm not calling you out. You're not listening anymore, right? But it's also weird that Dave Portnoy thinks that freedom of speech should change based on what's going on in the world. Yeah That's odd and how he feels about it and how he feels about it how it affects him. Yeah Yeah, that's surprising cuz he's I was gonna say level-headed. That's probably not the right word. He's pretty rational guy

Dave Portnoy I'm surprised that he would have that thought process. It seems to be the common thread among every single person we cover from street buskers to CEOs of corporations is this quality. Yeah. So he goes, what is that going to accomplish? Telling people they can't make jokes. We're going to find out. That's coming up in just a moment. That's a teaser. But you know Kirk's whole angle is listen man, I wanted to have this guy on that pissed you off on Twitter so you could debate him so that you could make him look foolish on the show. What I'm saying is you should have him on here or somebody else like that and fight with them because then you have a conversation. That's what this idiot wants! Dave, these guys that wrote the thing at the bar, Fuck the Jews, right? Yes. You're going to fucking

fly them to Auschwitz. Some guy tweets you something you want to fucking... Kirk, it was a bar I owned. It was a bar I owned. I agree, they should have been kicked out. So, but my thing is... No, it's not just kick out, Kirk. Are you ignoring what's going on in the world right now? No, I'm not. Dave! What do you want to do with those guys? What do you want to do with those guys in the bar? Kirk, put them in jail for 50 years? Fine! I don't care! I didn't say that! You're quite literally changing everything you say. Kirk, if you just want me to kick them out, not mention it, not care that this kid... Not at all! Not at all! Shut up! If you just want me to ignore it... Don't tell me to shut up. Don't tell me to shut up. Shut the fuck up you bald fuck. Okay, go ahead. How's that? Oh, it's kill. I'll never recover from that Dave. Go ahead. Continue. I'll never recover Well, you're the one who like oh big boss man. Don't tell I'll tell you work for me. Okay, go ahead

You little bitch you work for me. Sure you bet for now For now Is this show or not a show like is a show or not a show like we can't have a conversation as soon as it Gets to this point where it's like you work for me. You're losing the argument. Oh, yeah This reminds me of like Nick Reketa Calling Keanu a dumb bitch over and over and over again. She's like, okay, you're just you're being very passionate, but you're not really using your Words correctly, you're you're not connecting rash your message is clear your approach is a little cloudy

Yeah, it's not rational thoughts coming out of your mouth when you just start going you were for me. Shut up. Fuck you little bitch Yeah, yeah, so one more clip on here, and then I'll show you what ends up happening, but Jokes are not the problem in my opinion You're an idiot. Okay, you're literally saying people should be allowed to make true jokes say whatever they want right fucking now. That's what I think people should be allowed to make jokes. So how many motherfucking Jews have to be killed before you stop? I it's so weird. There was a leap there that yeah, it's bizarre. Like he's saying has to do with freedom of religion and there's a

Genocide going on based on joke-telling Kirk. You're killing Jews Yeah, well, that's what he's saying the blood is on your hands for allowing these people to make jokes on the show so it's interesting here because Des Bryant and Jason Whitlock saw this and So they tweeted at Dave. here's Des Bryant who has 3.4 million followers on Twitter former wide receiver for the Cowboys He says at stool president a you are a bitch for treating your employees like that shit is not cool at all This is what entitled looks like folks Mm-hmm, and this is obviously the meltdown where he's saying, you work for me, shut the fuck up.

So Dave responds to this tweet, of course, and Dave posts a video and says, hey, at Des Bryant and fat boy Whitlock Jason, here's your poor little helpless Kirk-y boy. How could Dave be so mean to Kirk? Never gets old making fools out of fools. And he posts this video, and I'll show you what this video shows,

because it's interesting, a couple days after this back and forth that they had on the unnamed show, Kirk Minahan is having it out with his producer, Justin, on the Kirk Minahan show and It's an interesting argument that they have you all live a real life. You're a fucking baby Look you yelled at me earlier this week. So shut your fucking mouth. Okay, you work for me fat boy You work for me. So you fuck up like that and I give you a fucking pass

That's way bigger fucking loyalty than something with Mick or something with your pretend girlfriend or any of that bullshit So you should look at the real stuff and not the your pretend girlfriend or any of that bullshit. So you should look at the real stuff and not the fake stuff instead of that and act like a pouty fucking baby all week. You're a fucking complete zero to me. You're fucking dead to me. You can sit there and you're fat ass in there until you fucking die and act like oh, come to me but fuck you.

Fuck you. That could have fucked us and you did it on purpose. I don't agree with you You're a fucking liar to you're a fucking liar. Not a liar. You're a fucking liar You did not purpose to try and fuck me over and I still kept you on a fucking job So you should say thank you every fucking time you look at me. Do you understand me? Sure. So what? Thank you. Yeah, so shut your fucking mouth. Okay, you understand me. Yes. Okay I've been taking all week from you understand me? Yes. Okay?

I've been taking all week from you for no fucking reason! Oh, no reason. No reason. Shut your fucking mouth or you'll be fucking fired! Fire me! Shut your fucking mouth! Fire me then! Shut your fucking mouth!

Fire me then! You want me to be fired? Would you like that? I know! Shut the fuck up! I'm on the show, so fire me then! So Dave's response to, hey Dave you shouldn't treat employees like that is you know treat this asshole employee like that He treats us employees like that, so it's all good. I don't know that's the right little trickle down

Yeah, right. I don't know that's the right edge like maybe you created an environment at your company Call the cycle of abuse What's fat boy gonna do? He goes home kicks the dog None of this is good for the Jews at all you know none of this is not helping out the Jewish people It all I don't know for a fact, but it doesn't seem like any of this is no well I thought that was a weird response from Dave to be like don't feel bad for Kirk He's also a dick and post that video, but underneath that response from Dave Portnoy, our

buddy Royce from Revenge of the Cis, he's been on the show before, we've done a live show together. He has a nice response on here. He goes, Dave, how are you so dumb that you can't see how this temper tantrum is only going to make things worse for you? Do you know how the internet works? You're not going to be able to do a pizza review now. See the F her in the pussy trend. Michael Angelo, who used to work for Barstool and becomes a part of the story that we're going to see momentarily, writes,

Dave, have you ever heard the expression, two wrongs don't make a right? Now, what Royce is saying here is this is a really dumb thing to tell people what they can and cannot joke about, because there'll be people who wanna fuck with you who joke about it when they wouldn't have. And enters Crackamico. Now Crackamico is a rapper, we've played him on the show before. He goes pretty hard in the painting,

it's Bert Kreischer, and he calls out a lot of people, he does a lot of things with Gas Digital and Skank Fest and stuff like that, very funny guy. And this was the video he just dropped yesterday. Yesterday or the day before, he just dropped this for a little response for Dave and his back and forth with Kirk about whether you can make jokes about Jewish people.

Adam's gonna love this. Have you seen this yet, Adam? Nope. All right, get ready to react. Don't tell me to shut up. Shut the fuck up, you bald fuck. Oh, big boss man, don't tell. I'll tell you work shut up. Shut the fuck up you bald fuck. Oh big boss man, don't tell. I'll tell you work for me. Okay, go ahead, continue.

You little bitch, you work for me. You're literally saying people should be allowed to make Jew jokes. Say whatever they want. Yes, I think people should be allowed to make jokes. So how many motherfucking Jews have to be killed before you stop? Hey, you could joke about death, you could joke about rape, you can joke about Indians with their babies Laughing at whatever the fuck that you wanna, only one thing is sacred, that's baby Don't joke about Jews, nah, don't joke about Jews, hey

Don't joke about Jews, don't joke about Jews, don't joke about days You can laugh about blacks, you can laugh about gays, you can laugh about immigrants in them cages Joke about anything on this earth, but if it's about Jews then you might as well save it, bitch Don't joke about Jews, nah, don't joke about Jews, hey Don't joke about Jews, don't joke about Jews, don't joke about Jews, don't joke about David, you are a homo, retarded shlomo, dishing what you can't take Portnoy, the Jewish faggot, stop trying to drag it Mad at the jokes we make L-Race, the rentee is losing his mind

Loading my Glock, I'm screaming out nine How about I tell you some jokes, Mrs. Portnoy And you tell me what's over the line All of your people controlling the media Changing the weather, controlling our minds Hollywood pitified lawyers and slumlords That would do anything for a dime What if I said something that you ain't like?

What if I called you a kike? What if I noticed somehow you make money Whenever a color man spits in a mic? What if I told you that Israel is evil like? What if I called you a kike? What if I noticed somehow you make money whenever a colored man spits in a mic? What if I told you that Israel is evil and it's time to rise up and free Palestine? Or maybe our party's involved and retarded and things would be better if all of them died. Especially the children, I hate them the most. Raise up your glass, I'm proposing a toast. In honor of freedom to make any joke even though there's a victim within every roast.

You could joke about death, you could joke about rape. Okay, so obviously this is extremely offensive, that's the point is to be like, yeah, yeah, nothing's awful. This is like the South Park point. If something's off limits, everything's off limits. So you have to reel them back in and be like, you gotta remember, I know there's bad things happening, but you can't end free speech over it.

It's a very important tenant to being free and having liberty. This part of the song right here is, he's dancing with Ghislaine and Jeffrey Epstein as he's dressed up in his rabbi outfit. -♪ If you could talk about Indians and their babies, life and that would never default to Q1, only one thing is sacred, ask baby. Yeah, there is a visual component to this that is interesting as well.

So if you're listening to the show and you want to check this out, Crack Amico, the Dave Portnoy dis I would I'd recommend Some salty language in there, but I get the point. I think that Dave kind of made this happen This is the this is the exact end product of Dave saying you can't make jokes about Jewish people during the current situation.

Politics aside, I think the flow is undeniable. It is. Crack Amico's good. He's good at what he does. Unfortunately, I think Dave really undermined any argument he might have had when he had to remind them of the dynamic of being their boss. Yes. Does he have a heavy Adderall addiction?

That I don't know. I'm not going to speculate. Because I've seen it before, and it looks a lot like that, where you just are angry and you cannot let it go. And I get that what's happening. If anybody does any real research as to what's happening over there right now, it'll fuck you up and make you sensitive. I get it. But what he's doing was just about him venting

It wasn't about teaching or helping or anything and the idea that those are his employees and he's expecting to have a rational Conversation where he's gonna have an open debate back and forth. You're their boss man. It's on camera Yeah, I appreciate it He made a comment during one of the cuts we played where he's like I'll let you go man I'll save me five hundred thousand a year, you know Calling out Kirk and what his salary is and Kirk goes. Are we doing a show right now? Or is this really what are we doing? because good question because the argument got like real personal and real shitty we're just like and I

Want to play what happened on the episode today. So earlier today these two come back together We all want to see like okay. What's the aftermath of this? What are they gonna say about it? You regret last week and you said you thought it might get clipped. That's why you want to say it turns out You were wrong. There's barely clipped at all 70 billion fucking things. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I was obviously really mad Never seen you that mad No, I've been mad like that of a body. No, I haven't blind Mike Blind Mike can get me into that it's just the minahan world that makes you that you just don't yell

You just don't yell at employees like that Dave. That's not For for losing for losing it on just a few days later So I love that that you know Kirk they're they're laughing about it one. I gave you one. So I love that, that you know, Kirk, they're laughing about it now. He's like, the only time I get that mad is when Blind Mike pisses me off, which is fun, we'll get more into that. And I love that the joke is abuse.

We're abusing these people better. Right, yeah, yeah. I can't believe you treated a boy like that. Am I right? You too, buddy, you too. Come on, anyway. So Kirk goes on to say after this, he's like, dude, I don't care that you yell at me. It doesn't bother me. I have thick skin. I don't care. I wasn't upset about that.

But he did think it was funny that Jason Whitlock and Des Bryant were coming to his defense on that. And I guess after they saw Kirk screaming at his employee, they weren't as on board after that. So Ryan Whitney, who hasn't talked once in all of these viral clips poor guy. Smart guy. Well yeah, he's not a part of this at all. He explains that Dave is getting crushed online. The sentiment is very much against Dave Portnoy's idea that there should be no jokes. It was, but even for, like, this was like mega viral. This just went everywhere. That, that thing. Correct.

Yeah, it was crazy. I actually have never seen Dave for, I don't know, two days. Like, you were getting bludgeoned on tweets. I'm like, holy shit, is this the end of him? Please, I get bludgeoned 24-7 now. No, no, no, all your- him? Please, I get blung in 24-7 now. No, no, no, all yours. Yes, I do. Wait.

So Dave's going, ah, it's nothing. Everyone's always against me all the time, which there is some reality too. He does cause controversy from time to time when there's videos of him spitting in a young girl's mouth while they're having intercourse, things like that. We'll get people talking about Dave Portnoy some. He's no stranger to this. The last clip I have on here is fascinating. So I mentioned that tweet response from Michael Angelo. So Michael Angelo used to work for Bar Stool. He was part of a group of people who were laid off and he's been taking shots at Portnoy since then. And so that's what he's talking about at the beginning of this clip, but then listen to where it goes to.

Good friend of the show here. He was so bad, he couldn't even do the edit, the rundown. I had to fire him from the rundown, but I didn't fire him for the company because you really have to stink to do that. But he just whines. I don't know how long he hasn't worked here, but he's one of those guys a little of blind Mike ish. He'll he'll pipe up

Say something and then he'll be like why you get watch Kirk here? Because Kirk is just taking Dave's side against blind Mike the whole time and it's very funny It's very tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think Dave feels that way But I know what Kirk's doing here. Mad at me. Like, what did I do? Mike's been killing you on this. Like, he's the old Dave Porter, no free speech. Like, it's been bad.

Oh, thank God. I try to avoid it because I know like, Blind Mike's one of those rare individuals. I hate him so much. I hear you. Just the thought of him triggers me. Just thinking about it when he was sitting in Milton with that magnifying glass because he can't see the computer working literally getting like hey can you do this thing it takes

him all day because he can't see and being like so bad at his job that I didn't he couldn't work here not because he's blind because he sucks and then he's always lobbing grenades and then being like, whoa is me. He just drives me nuts. So I'm glad I haven't seen it. Yeah, I always been bad. I love that they come back, they're like,

let's talk about this viral moment we had and all the backlash you're getting. And it turns into Dave ripping on Blind Mike for 60 seconds straight. So I did reach out to Mike to get him on the show today to hear his thoughts on this. He couldn't make it tonight, but he will be doing a full rundown on the blind mic project this Sunday, 10am Eastern. So check that out. It's always great. And thanks

to turbo 7049 for giving me a heads up that blind mic got brought up on the show today. So I went and checked that out. The Dave blind Mike thing is very funny to me because Alex Stein when I was over on his show Was like oh talking to me about blind Mike. I'm like, oh, yeah blind Mike's great But Alex's whole angle was can you get him to connect me and Dave Portnoy because Dave Porter is mad at me and I want To make up with them. I'm like, well blind Mike can't help you there man Dave hates And I want to make up with them and I'm like well blind Mike can't help you there bad Dave hates Blind Mike and you saw it right there. It really undermines his argument about The larger issues when the two things that trigger him are Israel and blind Mike. Yeah

It's a good point both of those things really piss him off and that Michelangelo guy, too But he's totally chill when those things aren't brought up Fine He could be calm when that sort of things going on, but yeah, I guess When Mike worked for him, I asked Mike like give me more details and I don't know the full story obviously But I guess when Mike was working at bar stool for Dave Kirk would be critical of things about Barstool and Mike would agree with them and talk about those things. And I think Dave felt like Kirk can get away with that shit.

He's earned it. You not so much. You don't criticize this organization, motherfucker, and everything that I built. So I think he kind of rubbed Dave the wrong way in his tenure there. That sounds like the kind of environment you could have a really robust and open-minded political discussion Probably not Probably not we got a lot of stuff to get to today. I got some Chad Zumach stuff I got steel toe the fighter and the kid Tom Myers skinny Chad

stuttering John stuff to get to so much. We got a lot of stuff to get to and I want to go right over to our cringe of the week cringe cringe of the week comes in from Zach and I don't know if you guys saw this. I know that Patrick Melton talked about it on his show yesterday, but Anthony Kumia came on the Anthony Kumia show and he goes, I'm watching one of these live streamers that just the whole show is about him making money. And I fell asleep. I was so boring.

I couldn't keep my eyes open watching this guy. It's not even a show. He's just talking about how you can give money to his show and it's not a show and so i guess chad assumes that that's about him so chad responds to that uh about anthony and this is from hack verse anonymous he's going to need some tech support again soon he's gonna have he's having some issues this is your show He's gonna have he's having some issues. This is your show This is your show you put people to sleep we've all been talking how boring your show is everybody Your show is as boring as a fucking crab race hmm

What I mean, it's fucking dull as fuck. Is that a saying? No, that's more boring than a crap race. What's he talking about? I love that Chad's response to what he thinks Anthony was saying about him and show being boring as your show's boring. That's all you got. That's Chad for you. That's Chad for you. The criticism was that the show was all about giving you money if it was about you It was about how you're on there going. Yeah, I got demonetized now I'm remodetized, but I also have super tips set up But you can also you can't super chat me yet, but you can get a membership and you can give memberships This is what Anthony was talking about and Chad's response is you're boring and if he doesn't say who he's talking about He does not so Chad and it could be

Steeltoe it could be MLC. It's a lot of these shows do this. Why would someone think it was about them if their show wasn't boring It's pretty telling isn't it? Yes, when someone goes bad. I watched this guy online today. He's a jerk like talk about me Turns out yes It's a weird response. Do not drive when listening to this person's podcast show. It's the same as yours. It's the same. It's the same as yours. We're the same. Broadcasting legend, Anthony Kumia

from the Open Anthony Show. I do the exact same show as you do, Anthony. Right, this reminds me of when he was promoting his Patreon and he goes, guys, Tim Dillon's making $200,000 a month. I'm like Tim Dillon, give me $200,000 a month. You're not Yeah, even at his lowest coming I never had a show called Howard Stern's cucks, right? Well, he's rebranding. This is interesting. I just learned this today that He was gonna be Z man versus the world

Which is whole because we found out he got that idea from Jim Florentine who was just over at my house We found out he got that idea from Jim Florentine who was just over at my house Recording a segment called Tom Myers versus the rest of the world right so Jim's fucking with Chad in my opinion I know they're friends, but I think he's fucking with me like what bigots E man versus the world you know So Chad was gonna do that. He's always been promoting this new branding and stuff. He's decided. He's not gonna do that He's gonna change the name to something else now. I guess he got clowned too much. Right, Steve? Mud shark versus the rest of the world. Right, something like that.

Everybody hates Chad. Same as yours. Everything's the same. But boy, if you need to go to sleep, and I don't even wanna, I'm not giving any any of the shills and grifters the the satisfaction of even mentioning a name just say me just say me you want it because Chad you see why he didn't do that? Chad, do you see why he didn't name you? Gotcha. Because you're doing this, and Kevin's doing this,

and Aaron's doing this, and probably Quadfather's probably a bunch of people that think they're talking about it. Guys, Anthony is not even paying attention to it. They're probably talking about me. For all we know, Anthony didn't listen to any show. He's just sick of the concept of a boring show. Yes, and he knew this would get everyone to react.

Chad bought it. Love it. I'm on the super tip system that is a big major talking point because Melton's taken away my AI voices and taken away from my income. Taking me, making sure I'm not on the leaderboard anymore. And he'll probably take away super tips. So yeah, it's an issue. And at the time I wasn't monetized today I

am still not getting super chats still not getting super chats but you can give memberships no thank God you can you earned it Chad I will get into more of that by the way what what Chad did to fuck up super tip it's pretty of me only Chad could do this we have all these people know aren't super tip. Everyone's doing fine with it. There's just one guy who couldn't handle it. But imagine getting feedback from a random person who got your gifted membership.

Hey, fuck you, this show sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, since we're talking about Steeltow here a little bit, I just wanted to address this because Steeltoe said some fucking wild shit, man. And he just, it just goes unchecked all the time. There's no one who calls him out on this stuff. And every now and again, we have to remind him that he's completely full of shit and

has no idea what he's talking about. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, Please, please, please guys. Streamlabs, PayPal, Superchats, Rumble Rants, Venmo. Maybe, you know what? Maybe we don't deserve it. So Johnny Crutches is on the show and Johnny Crutches doesn't know anything about anything. So he typically doesn't open his mouth. His role is more to be a guy who looks like he's dozing off while Aaron is passionately talking about nonsense. But in this clip that I have, he actually thinks he understands what's going on with Chad and Super Tip, which is laughable.

And so you were saying something about like, I guess Chad got cheated? And I'm sitting here listening to this I'm like oh thank Christ every day. Apparently you have to let Melton access your computer to sign up for Super Tips. Yeah. I mean look I get it I have multiple sclerosis and a doctor's note saying I'm retarded but do people think I'm literally that retarded? I'm not giving anyone access to my computer. This Super Tips thing just sounds like the scariest like the like, Oh, I wonder if I could give a complete untrustworthy piece of shit a back door into all of my stuff. Well, now in fairness, the only reason it takes off like the only reason any of this

takes off pure hatred of steel toe. Could these guys be more myopic? He thinks the only reason why super tip is a system people use is because of him. Aaron, you have nothing to do with Super Tip. Absolutely nothing to do with it. Bump of the Love Sponges on it and Perry Caravello and a whole bunch of people who are not part of the Dabbleverse at all. And even people who don't give a shit about you who are in the Dabbleverse are using Super Tip. Now, what Johnny doesn't understand, the reason why Patrick

Melton had a remote into Chad's computer is because Chad is retarded. He doesn't understand basic instructions. Everyone else who's got set up on SuperTip, including myself, were able to figure it out. We didn't have to have Patrick and Moody log into our computers and click the buttons for us. And so they hear that Chad did that,

and they go, oh, that's how you get on Super Tip. You have to give Melton all your passwords and access to your storage account and cloud storage and all the files and email addresses, passwords. Obviously not the case. That's ridiculous. Patrick Mulder was doing Chad a solid by spending 90 minutes with him

Remoting into his computer to get this set up for him because Chad was freaking out about monetization So he did him a favor and these and what do they say that sorry? What do they say that Milton's gonna do he's gonna get in there The point is from to get into everyone's computers, and then what well I think what he's gonna do is you can put viruses on everyone's computers And then he just has a kill switch So they get on their show and they start talking shit. He's boom computers done Locked forever. He'll never get into the cabinet

I think it was Cardiff that said that he can reroute the bank account so that all the money comes into Somebody else's account instead of theirs you can do that remotely too remember when John thought that his You know the 21st was coming around And he thought that all his YouTube money was gonna go into Carter's bank account What kind of world do these people live at where they think any of this is a possibility and Are they that dumb do they think their audience is that dumb I? Think Johnny is that dumb. I don't think he knows what the fuck he's talking about, but he's talking and I love these guys because they believe whoever is against dumb. I don't think he knows what the fuck he's talking about, but he's talking. And I love these guys because they believe whoever is

against the people they don't like, hence believing Chad Zumach, the man who lies more times per minute than anyone I've ever met. The Chad Zumach thing I think is a perfect example. Chad got his monetization taken away on YouTube. He signs up for the super tips. He bends the knee.

He says one critical thing of Patrick on MLC, and Patrick takes away a bunch of his voices and stops giving him technical support because Patrick can't handle being mocked because again, Patrick is projection. His whole, oh, feel thing. People feel, bro, we all make you feel way more like, the rest of us don't think about you. You bring him up all the time. You bring him up now.

I've seen countless examples. I mean, we get into this on this little pig here. If you watch Nobody Likes Onions, we don't do as much on WATP about Aaron. But there's so many times the conversation is about something completely different and Aaron will just be like, yeah, Patrick Melton is gonna say blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, whoa, what are you, what's going on in the conversation is about something completely different and Aaron will just be like yeah, and Patrick Melton is gonna say blah blah

Blah, it's like whoa. What are you? What's going on in the back of your head that you're bringing him up? And now he's trying to say that we don't think about you at all Patrick Mountain It's become a focal point of every episode of the show that he does but they believe Chad Zumach and That you know Chad all we did was say one little thing about Patrick and then Patrick freaked out and took away all Of his voices and everything what happened was I'll explain this real quick Mm-hmm Patrick went out of his way to help out Chad when Chad needed a friend needed someone to help him out because he lost His monetization and as a result of that Chad made hundreds and hundreds of dollars

I don't know the exact amount. If you go to those shows, he was streaming two or three times a day because the money just kept coming in and Chad could not be so excited. And he was loving it. He's like, this is so fun. This is amazing. He was loving the SuperTip system.

He's getting all this money from it. And then what does he do? He goes on MLC and starts calling out Patrick Melton and saying all this shit about him. Or Patrick's just like, well, dude, I just did you a favor. I'm allowing you to use this system that you needed at that time.

And you immediately turn around and talk shit to be friends with Kevin Brennan again. So Patrick's like, all right, well, I don't need to do you any more favors. I'm not gonna help you with any more tech support because that's not part of the system. You don't sign a contract that gives you so many hours of tech support.

And he goes, also, the AI voices, everyone generates their own AI voices. When you go to supertip.gg slash W-A-T-P, which I see some of you are doing right now, and I appreciate that, you'll see Adam Bush is in there and Dr. Steve and guys from Who Are These Socials, like Woke Dad and John Sarasani.

And like we have all these voices that are part of the WATP and who are these worlds that we use with Super Tip? Chad developed none of these he just goes yep. I'll take a Cardiff. No not Cardiff, he won't take Cardiff. I'll take a Tookie I'll take Carl and I'll take and so they he didn't develop these voices They're not his so pet just goes alright You can just have your voices. He's got three right that right now Which it's like a soundboard It's how it works and and I even heard Patrick talking about this where he goes you know people ask for voices

I've already been developed and Guys like Perry Caravallo like no you can't have my voices are my voices They want to be exclusive to his channel makes sense if I want to talk as Evil tookie I have to go to this show to do it, you know or that show to do it Kind of kind of makes sense, but these guys have turned this all into it's all oh Patrick's so sensitive He's being such a little bitch that he took all this stuff away from Chad He did nothing but tons of favors but over backwards, but it's hunchback over backwards to help Chad out when he needed help.

And Chad couldn't help himself, couldn't go a weekend without calling Patrick out for it. He creates this stuff for himself. He really does. I was trying to figure out why the next day he was screaming that Patrick took away all his voices. I only have these three left. He doesn't want me to have these voices.

And I remember thinking, why? Why would he? What would be in it for him to do that? Both Chad and KB have no experience in things going well. So they're just so waiting for that other shoe to drop. If it doesn't happen, they just drop it themselves and go see I knew it Yeah, Chad should have Chrissy Mayer on there and Anthony Cumia and the like all of the cucks on his mind I don't know what the rebrands gonna be but he should have these voices on his show and instead he just grabs all the things that we had already developed for our shows and

These guys don't understand any of it Aaron earlier on in this episode, was talking about how there were people calling up the, where they're having the golf tournament. They were calling up, I don't know if it's a country club, it's probably not a country club, but whatever it is, public golf course, people were calling it up and asking questions

about Aaron's golf tournament, because it's happening on the Sunday, the weekend of his 11th anniversary where they're doing a cornhole tournament and then a comedy show and then karaoke then the next day there's a golf tournament and so people are calling and asking about the golf tournament and from what I've heard the golf course is like we don't know anything about a golf tournament because Aaron didn't actually create a golf tournament with the golf course. He just grabbed a bunch of tee times and he's going to run it himself. So he got a call from the golf course saying like, yeah, we're getting calls asking about

this tournament. And so he goes out and says this. Oh. So I apologize to Patrick and Moody and Karl and all of your fans. You took another shot, you know, you failed a lot with the toe, but you took another shot. You did miss again, but hey, you haven't given up. And that's what's important. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So let's look at it this way. You've technically lost nothing. You're just right back where you started.

Right. You guys, look, if you hadn't called it all, you would have gotten the same result, but there would have been no effort. So congratulations. I wonder what it's like to be my enemy. I'm up to so much nefarious stuff behind the scenes all the time. It's all I consume myself with is trying to people's gigs canceled and calling up golf courses in Minnesota and Pranking them and trying to fuck with Aaron's event

Where is this coming from? This is the opposite of anything that I ever do and I get lumped into that like oh Yeah, this was my plan to get your event shut down. I not only want your event to happen I want a bunch of dabblers there filming it from every angle absolutely. I I'll do the editing myself. I'll piece it all together. We'll watch it for days on this show. Aaron loves to say that we tried to get a show canceled. We want to get a show canceled. We're mad. We're seething because he's still on the air. We want you doing two shows a day. We want you stretching out five, six hour long programs because you're desperate for money and that's all you can do to make money is just stay online. He doesn't understand the motivation at all that what we're doing over here. It seems never stop gaslighting Aaron, right?

Mmm. It's also wish fulfillment cuz I don't think he wants to do these shows or these events I think he's been checked out for a long time and it's almost like John You don't want me to do stand-up. You're gonna kick me off the internet. He just wants to go Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't know how to organize these events. We saw that last year, his big 10th anniversary, there was gonna be the roast of Aaron, he was gonna bring all these people in that were on the show before, then that fell apart, then he was gonna bring all these radio stations in, and that fell apart, then he was gonna do all these different things, and it turned into just a shit show of drunk people chanting, and Aaron having nothing

figured out Johnny Crutch is not able to get off the stage that's he doesn't know how to organize these about this we love about that where we I would never try to get one of these things shut down I'll do you one better he wanted to fight everyone in Vegas right and we were willing to do it for him organize it for him correct and he found a way out of that yeah yeah Rocko was going to safe sport figuring out what the credentials he needed and what we all needed to do in order

to be able to legally face him in the ring. And Aaron's like, oh, I wasn't expecting that. No. Aaron said that we all backed out. Aaron just creates his own. It's a weird world to live in. And I have one more example here where Aaron's a tough guy to follow because he

lives in a fantasy world. And he speaks to it as if it's reality. And I don't know if he's trying to wish it into existence or if he's gaslighting his audience, or if he says it enough times, it'll soothe him and he'll feel better about what's actually happening. So the big news right now in his world is that this guy, Gabe Hoffman,

is gonna be interviewed on Keanu's show tomorrow night. And Gabe Hoffman has digged up some dirt, apparently, on Nick Reketa, and they're gonna go on there and show what a bad guy Nick Reketa is. And so Aaron on his show today is talking about how Nick is trying to get out in front of it, and Nick is on his stream talking about Gabe Hoffman

and what they might be talking about and trying to say like, if they say that I'm abusive to my family or my kids, it's just not true. Like that's what Nick is saying. Now, Aaron has also tried to get in front of things often. I'll give you the latest example. When Moody was able to figure out

every time he logged into Kiwi Farms, and he saw from a Discord comment that there was going to be something about that, he went on the show and he just goes, hey, and guys, just so you know, I opened up my phone, my browser, I have three tabs open at all times, sports scores, Twitter, and Kiwi Farms. So it might look like I'm going there a lot, but I'm not. He was saying that beforehand, and then we showed the graphs and we proved that no you have to have to go into kiwi farms And use it in order for it to register as a ping and show this and then he dropped it

Deleted his account or whatever he has to do to log in and never talked about it. He's thinking well I tried but he's the king of trying to get out in front of things. And he's criticizing Nick Reketa here for doing just that. And he just makes shit up. It's an amazing fantasy world that he does. Try to follow this. He goes, they're going to come out and say, he said this. He goes, they're going to come out and say that I choke slammed my son at the chiropractor.

Because somebody in a report,actor because somebody in a he says somebody in a report claimed that I chokeslammed my kid at the chiropractor now I don't think anybody said he chokeslammed his kid I'm guessing somebody probably said they saw him put the hand on his kid's neck up against the wall or something like that what much better yeah what is going on right now? He just invented that out of nowhere and what Aaron does is he just builds on these fantasies that he has. So okay so now I've established that it's fact so now let's move on and what's gonna happen from there and it just builds and builds and builds. If there's

something that offends them so deeply why do they keep repeating it over and over again? We didn't need a visual demonstration of what it's like to choke a kid out. We got it. And you said it like four times. We don't need your hand in the camera. What is this obsession?

It's weird. He needs to really drive home the fact that Nick Rekete is a bad guy. It's having the opposite effect. It's making us think that he's a bad guy. Yeah. If someone said that happened, what motivation did they have to lie? Because that puts them in a really like weird

it's a weird spot where now you have to invest time and energy to go talk to people and tell them that who's this is crazy. Aaron just said, and I try to wrap your mind around this. Aaron just said if someone accuses someone of doing something They definitely did it because why would anybody lie about anything has there ever been? Scenario Where someone lied about someone doing something that didn't actually do in order to harm that person or to get away with something I mean, I guess not

Yeah, so I guess if someone accuses someone of doing something, then they definitely did it. But then Aaron, after saying that, goes, oh, that's right. There was that harassment restraining order that my ex-wife took out against me where in that court order, it talked about how I head-butted my wife April and strangled her so hard she couldn't breathe. Or squeezed her. Not strangled. Squeezed her so hard she couldn't breathe. So Aaron remembers that after saying like if someone accuses someone of something then they definitely did it. Why would they lie? And now he has to address that. Who's gonna do that? Who's gonna do that? Who's going to just make that up?

I'm sorry but even in the bullshit that got put out there in that HRO thing that made that April bullshit even Even with that, I was like, Hey, you know, we had a fight, we got really close to each other. I didn't hit her. I didn't squeeze her choker headbutt or anything. But there was a fight and we did get really close. We're screaming at each other. Yeah, yeah, fight happened. Something happened. Where there's smoke, there's fire. You don't come out and say, Oh, none of that ever happened. it was all made up out of whole cloth.

That makes you look like a liar. See, this is what's so weird about this. I didn't understand his argument here. No. So he's already made up what this guy Gabe is gonna say and what Nick said that he's gonna say and that it's not true. We don't know any of this, none of this has happened yet.

And he's going on there and going like guys I fessed up I mean all the stuff April said about me was bullshit But I did fess up that maybe there was something close to that that happened But Nick is a bad guy because he's a pretend nothing happened when obviously something must have happened Why else would he be accused of something? And I don't think Aaron's a dumb guy. That's what's so weird about this. When he says shit like this, he's just like, dude, what? He's blinded by his

hatred for Nick. He would chop off his own dick if he thought it would hurt Nick, and he wouldn't understand why everyone was screaming at him. He would just be standing there, holding in his hand like, look, look, we got him! You sure got him, buddy. It's time to go to bed Look at his face right here, too. I know he's not a great guy I know that for various reasons this guy looks like the villain in this scenario. We can out He really does that if there's a smoke and fire here When you come out and get ahead of something and go hey this thing that people claim they saw and that When you come out and get ahead of something and go, hey, this thing that people claim they saw

and that multiple people have backed up, well, now it's not only that this happened, but multiple people have backed it up. We haven't even heard what's gonna happen yet. Gabe Hoffman hasn't had this interview yet. Right, yeah. This is crazy. That's his MO though, man.

Yeah, because you get confused enough as a viewer and you just go, God, yeah, I guess Nick beat his kids. It's just easier to believe what Aaron says cuz this is so stupid. Me, the person who's accused of doing that thing, I say it never happened. Not like they had it wrong or here was the context or here's what actually happened. Just made it up on a whole cloth. You don't look believable. So that's crazy and Aaron's getting worse and worse with this stuff. I mean, we've talked about it when he was saying

that I'm bitter because I don't have children. That was quickly disproven by his own chat. You're like, Aaron just makes shit up and he goes with it. And he comes up with more and more examples. Like as soon as he hears something about somebody he doesn't like, he tries to piece that together with anything else he can think of to prove. They're a bad person Can you believe Nick is saying he never laid a hand on his kid when I mean why would they just make that up?

There's tons of people who saw him do it. It's like whoa whoa whoa What's the best revenge? Living a great life. Yes, not worrying about Nick Rekade anymore. It's amazing what April did to these guys Yes, not worrying about Nick Rekate anymore. It's amazing what April did to these guys April has these two guys still fucking reeling. They have not gotten over it's been over a year. She must be amazing There's also a broke back mountain element Nick and to Aaron they love hate each other so much and they are obsessed with each other. Yes, it's it's a bit bizarre All right, we have a lot to talk about Tom Myers posted his oh the interview We did on WTP with his own commentary, and he didn't do it live

He pre-recorded it then he was in the chat. Oh, so we got to talk about that The fighter and the kid is in Texas episode 2. I don't think Brendan jobs gonna last long in Texas I have some theories, but he found a taco spot He did find a taco spot and wait to hear about this barbecue place Skinny Chad had me on his show and finally dropped that episode with a lot of editing by the way puts in a lot of bells And whistles mm-hmm on that show we'll break that down Maddox trying to get our Boston show Canceled if we have time Casey Armstrong and Adam Bush, and of course, Stuttering John did an interview this past weekend in Tampa when he was at that sports expo on a sports show, which that was a really

good use of everyone's time. He also did a podcast back in 2017 talking about his divorce with Susanna. All right, let's talk real quick about Todd Myers. It's no different than a police officer running to the scene of a crime or a firefighter running into a burning building. It's what I do. So Tom Myers posted on his channel the interview he did with Adam, Chris, and Vinny. More so Adam and Vinny. And Andree sent this to me, says literally his only commentary is at 2115,

pointing out that Vinny is a booker for a comedy club in upstate New York, not in New York City. So as you guys are going, by the way, do you know what Vinny does? He books for this pretty big club in New York, and I guess he did some research afterwards, he goes, aha! That's not New York City, so why do I care?

So that was his big gotcha. And I would like to publicly offer a retraction and an apology to all that I offended and hurt. I realized now that I should have set a club in upstate New York or even more specifically Rochester than New York State as a whole. That was misleading and it won't happen again. Thank you for the fact check. All right, good. You did that exactly as we rehearsed it., thank you or you could trade it all for this trip to Auschwitz aside from that This is again from Andre. He goes aside from that. He just lets the entire interview play without commentary

with one other exception 41 minutes in He he has to pause it and chime in and I want to show that to you. Adam, you haven't watched this yet, have you? And Andrei writes also on here, it's kind of funny that in his opening spiel he says that this is a fair use type thing and then there's 15 total seconds of commentary for a one hour long interview. He does almost none of it. He pre-cords this, he premieres it on his channel, and then he's in the chat.

At one point, I think it was just you and him, right, Adam? In the chat? Oh yeah, yeah. Because there were two people. There were two people watching and I realized that has to be both of us. Yeah, because he was in there chatting quite a bit. So this is a proud moment

for our buddy Tom Myers on this show. And I woke up the next morning. Did anything happen at the show? So I should point out what's happening right here is that Tom is talking about how he was an alcoholic. And there was a turning point and he saw the air in his ways and he's been sober ever since. And what Adam's trying to do is to get the actual story out of him. What happened? How did you discover you're an alcoholic? What was the, uh, rock bottom that you experienced that would get you to sober up and never touch

the sauce again. And Tom does this thing where he does not answer a question. He seems to be making up stories and just talking about like what he thinks someone cool would say You know in that scenario and I think Adam correct me if I'm wrong You're getting a little annoyed at this point because we're like 40 minutes into the interview also, what's happening is it ramps up really quickly because he has a very hard out and As soon as that was acknowledged and he said yes I do have to go is when these answers started dragging on and on in a filibustery

way and I just wasn't going to let that be the end so I was it was rude I'm not proud of it but I do start cutting him off trying to get to the bottom of this. Okay and I woke up the next morning. Did happen at the show did anything happen I woke up if you if you shut the fuck up for two minutes let me finish I'll tell you you're asking a question can I can I can I fucking answer questions you know I'm not gonna lie I am so fucking proud of that moment What can I say I love throwing shit in people's faces Anyway back to the interview chiming in so that was a big W for Tom Myers

By going let me answer the question. It's like yep. You're not answering the fucking question You're talking about you drink a six-pack and someone gave you a shot and then the next day What are we doing unless I'm mistaken to the listener the punchline gotcha moment of that exchange What's what Vinny said cat? Oh, no, can you yeah, that was the joke that was for him to Leave that in but then say gotcha buddy So this is what his chat looked like and this is the live chat that's going on during this show and It's all Tom so he's watching this and Byb put in you got owned badly Tom and he writes back be a podcast got proof. The reviews are pretty mixed

And then as that other segment goes on he goes, yeah, New York infers New York City Vinny's club is in upstate New York nothing special and where his club is this shithole and Then more talking to BYB podcast Let's read that second one Also Tom says Quad you dived into a pool from a tree because your girlfriend left you for someone of a darker complexion and your podcast sucks. You have no right to assess anyone's performance. Wow.

Tom is taking the gloves off here. He's ready to fight. Jesus Christ. What did Derek do to deserve that? Imagine being confined to a wheelchair and everyone thinking you're a dick. Crazy. Imagine being confined to a wheelchair and everyone thinking you're a dick Crazy, that's uh, then there's uh, there's a couple comments here from another person and He's cake and Tom's side I Thought you were unfairly maligned by the WTB crew. This wasn't an interview so much as a pointed critique

They had their talking points going in and didn't deviate at all. You mean research? Yeah. I don't understand. They came in knowing their stuff and having facts at the ready. I don't understand. I mean, this is Tom responding. I mean, you see how many views I'm getting here now.

They aren't exactly bringing in the virtual foot traffic. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that moment. So that was he posted that after he went on screen and said he's proud of that moment. He was also in the chat writing. I'm pretty proud of that moment. And then he said, in case you missed it, podcast Karen outright stated that I was not invited to come on WTP. Fact check Reddit is the only place where WTP opinions

coincide. Those are straight facts. What was he talking about? is the only place where WTP opinions coincide. Those are straight facts. What? What's he talking about? At some point, he has you saying recently that you never invited him to come on. Correct, I did not. He has a clip where you did. He has a clip where you very clearly say that,

I think it's from a long time ago, and he plays it at some point during this. And he's like, where are you, something like, Tommy got an open invite, come on the show, so he got you he got you so now nothing else you say holds any water Because I mean I didn't want to go on the damn show in the first place I only went on to get an ambush to shut the fuck up again Yeah, how'd that work out what a weird way to live your life

Someone just nag you into doing things you don't want to do not even married Weird way to live your life someone just nag you into doing things you don't want to do not even married I'm giving you pussy. What's what's Said he said the only reason he put that out so fast was because you he says I it was you that gave him shit For you know asking us to put it out last so he could put it out first And then he never did it so you made a comment you like when is he putting that out? I thought he said he wanted to so then he rushed it together in a day to prove you wrong, exactly what you said. That was the motivating factor,

which is why there's not that many gotcha moments. I will say, Thomas started to do these live streams. He is, because he stopped doing it for a while. I think he's doing it again, or is he replaying them? I don't know. I think he's doing them, if he is, they're amazing, and everyone needs to watch this. This is the Tom we enjoy. He was like at the Mexican restaurant he works at

complaining about the management. Like it's good stuff. It's real, what I like. Really? Mm-hmm. And that's a new one? Unless it might be, sometimes I get fooled when it's a premiere.

Cause I didn't know he still worked at the Mexican restaurant. Yeah. And I had no idea. Okay, maybe that's old then. No, it could be, you could be right. I don't keep tabs on the guy's personal life I don't know either way the best way to enjoy him I wasn't aware. That's I want him with me all day long. I want to see him at the DMV

I want us I want the whole experience. I've been checking in on the fighter and the kid because This is a crazy story You have this podcast. It's been around for 15 years now something like that. And they do once a week and they're at episode 1050 something. So however that calculates. And Brian Callan has gotten to a point in his career, he's 58 years old, he's a stand up.

He's not really getting a lot of calls to be in movies and TV shows anymore and he sees that all these guys went to the mothership in Austin the company called the Joe Rogan opened up and all those guys are now getting on the Joe Rogan experience and Hanging out with Joe Rogan all the time and he's seeing that those guys are getting more and more Those guys are getting more and more specials and shows and appearances. And Brian goes, I need to be with the actionists. So four months ago, he goes on the fighter and the kid and he goes, Brendan, I'm sorry, man.

I'm moving to Austin. I gotta be with my people. Comedy store isn't where it's at anymore. I gotta get out to the mothership. Started hanging with that crew. And Brendan Chabu had quit stand-up comedy a year before that goes I'm in let's go And I don't think that Brian had any intention to say goodbye. Yeah, I don't think right any intention Keeping the fighter and the kid going. Hmm, but Brendan Shaw panicked and went, Oh no, my buddy's leaving. I know what

to do. So he decided to move his entire family to Austin, Texas away from LA and to keep the fighter and the kid going. And also he does the Schaub show from there. But I'm fascinated by what's going on with the fighter and the kid because these two guys are assimilating to Texas and Brian's there for a reason. So Brian doesn't like the heat. He has a number of things that he's not a fan of that we'll get into. Brendan has really no reason to be there except for to keep a podcast going that's been failing for a while. So it's really bizarre that not only did Brendan Shaw bring his entire family,

he's got the kid, the wife, the dog, but he also brought his producers along too. So these two guys, you got to find places to live and now he's got to support them to live in Austin, Texas. And it was just kind of like a thing that was like, yeah, this is what we're doing. It kind of busted their balls for not living anywhere yet, right? Yeah chin doesn't have a place to live yet, so they bust his balls about that Meanwhile these guys have house big houses of swimming pools. They talk about the cool shit They have going on the neighborhoods. They live in hey, what's your pool like? Just like yeah, like cuz I'm flying back to my apartment in LA later today. So can we get the show on the road here?

Right out of the gate. This is the very first thing that happens in the show They're complaining about the bugs in texas Texas we're back bud. We're back buddy. You got the you got the texas buzz, dude I got the texas me and the boys shaved our heads, proper Texas. I was introduced to Texas. I had to send you a text of the picture. Oh well, so yeah.

Of the L tarantula hawk. Yeah, so Brandon said, what the fuck is this? And I said, that's what you call a female tarantula hawk. Because we couldn't figure it out. So we're all chilling in the living room. Donnie's outside and he was like pouncing like this on something and Joanna goes Jesus what is that? I go it's like a big ass grass hopper and she goes but he has like yellow wings and black hair. He's got orange wings. He's got orange wings. Yeah I was like what is that? I go out there the kids are in the pool I go oh shhh. Well it's

about as big as your thumb. So the first thing out of the gate, now, of course, Brendan's really trying to be all Texas. He was wearing the Texas Longhorns hat when he first got into the studio. He's buzzed, he's shaved his head, and his kids have shaved their heads to get ready for the Texas summer. So he's doing everything he can to be Texas.

But he was not ready for the wildlife. And he comes across this thing called a tarantula hawk, and it freaks him out. Now this is a pretty big bug. They're gonna show an image of it, but he's just not used to this, and he comes out of the gate immediately talking about how awful this is.

So, my thinking was once I found out it was a tarantula hawk, I'm like, damn, that's crazy. I kinda wish I didn't kill it. And, I'm like, damn, that's crazy. I kind of wish I didn't kill it. And I was thinking like, well, wait a second. They eat tarantulas. That means there's also a ton of tarantulas around here. A ton of tarantulas. And then I was on a walk with the kiddos.

We were going to walk at night. And in the middle of the road, El Tarantula, couldn't get out of the way of some car, was ran over. But good-sized tarantula. Well, I found one in my pool. All right, so this is not a good advertisement for Austin Texas I'll be honest with you if I was a child and there was a tarantula in my swimming pool I would never get over that that would haunt me for the rest of my life that sounds so fucking scary and I know how you are about spiders I'm not a fan I'm've got a fan. I could get by oh my god. There were the two on the screen porch last night

They got away from me. I'm still mad about that yeah And they told their friends We can hang out on the screen porch all day Old man hamburger won't do shit Damnit they got me so already. I'm hearing this and he's just like, uh, yeah, so there's, um, this tarantula hawk with his bug that eats tarantulas, which means there must be tarantulas nearby. The tarantula hawk's not a great thing either because they're venomous and a problem. They bite you. And obviously Brendan Schaub is an idiot who went to Wikipedia to look this up to try to sound smart

But this will backfire out of turn down to us that that aren't you the hawk there Everywhere I see them. I think all the Pepsi wasp to the pepsi wasp And aren't they called the Pepsi wasp to the pepsi wasp? They called the Pepsi wasp to who told you that I'll tell you told of that Wikipedia so if you go on Wikipedia tarantula hawk You can see tarantula hawks belong to any of the many species of the genre pepsis and hemipepsis He goes I think I'm Pepsi and Hemi Pepsis. And he goes, aren't they called Pepsi? He read the first three things in blue and stopped.

That's what he got. Spider Wasps, Tarantula, Pepsi. Pepsi Wasps. So, I love that. And Brian's such a sweetheart. Brian never clowns him for being an idiot. He always just goes, that's Pepsis, but okay. Whatever. It would easily be something you would stop in your tracks and ago. I'm sorry What what did you think it was oh? What kind of markets if around here it turned into Baba, Bowie right? Yes Oh, no, it's a Pepsi wasp is it all it's about do what's going on everything would be Pepsi for the next 15 years Yeah, cuz you're talking about a comedy show. I don't know what this is this is like

Extra credit this is like helping the interns or something. This is like a self-help program. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is either. Think that, I mean, Texans famously are fooled by locals trying to, by tourists trying to be locals, right? They can't tell the difference. They don't know who's from here or not.

They're so accepting of people just trying to quickly assimilate. They can't see you at all. Especially with that local talk of the wasps and the heat. Like don't touring comedians and touring bands know, you know, the second time you go through the town you don't make the same local jokes that you read in the paper. Like you have to dig in a little deeper. But this is just, I don't know what this is. I don't know. It's like they, they spent all the money on the production and then got there and on the first day of shooting They were like, so what's the script? What are we doing? What are we gonna make Adam? I am telling you Brendan Schaub made a

Quick decision where he just went. Oh, no, I'm gonna lose the fighter and the kid. I gotta go Save that I'm going this is like when your girlfriend's like I got a job opportunity in Austin I'm moving there and you're like, all right, let, I got a job opportunity in Austin, I'm moving there. And you're like, all right, let's go to Austin. I love Austin. You're right, and she's just like, oh, okay, yeah. I guess we're all going to Austin. He's done zero research.

He didn't know what he was getting himself into. And he's experiencing it every day. And he comes to the fight room with the kid, and he goes, holy shit, listen to this thing that happened to me, listen to this thing that happened to me. Like, he's freaked out by Texas. This is not gonna last long, I'm telling you we should get a countdown clock or something when will Brendan move back to LA?

It's not gonna take much longer cuz he's not gonna see any perks from this It's not like he's gonna be on the Joe Rogan experience or working stuff out at the mothership. Oh No, we've seen that go down. Yeah, it's not gonna happen So he needs an idea. He needs a thought. He needs something to do. This was a big logistical move, but it was not a concept. He wanted to save this podcast like you said. Well, you've done it. Now what? Now what? Well, so we posted this tarantula hawk and I got some advice from someone on social media. I do do not touch that thing He's like that thing will paralyze you for about five minutes

It'll really not gonna kill you but you're gonna mean such bad pain. Yeah, and it's a big boy Those are course. I'm not look at the size of that fucking thing, dude. Look at the size. Yeah Okay, I hit him the first time a little bit of a concussion, but he was not dead Yeah, no, it took three to four. Yeah,, and you had to punch him and choke him out, bro. See Adam. It is a comedy show Hilarious. Yeah pretty good stuff. That was funny So then Brian starts listing all the things that live in Texas that will kill you you can tell this these guys are hyper focused on the bad parts of living in Texas Yeah, I don't like killing him. I know he a fire old bear foot hyper focused on the bad parts of living in Texas.

Yeah, I don't like killing animals. But he a fire old bear foot on the poles. We got cotton mouths. We haven't seen snakes yet. We haven't seen snakeys yet. We got rattlers. We got scorpions. We got tarantulas.

We've seen a bunch of scorpions. Yeah, have you? I've seen none. Oh really? We had them in our garage. Really? Guy came and sprayed. I see all these, oh what the fuck? Yeah. You got the nest, huh? Guy came and spray. I see all these net. Yeah, you get the nest. Yeah, all right. So this all

this just sounds like a nightmare. If I'm the Texas tourism bureau. I'm like, Can we stop this show please? Oh, no one's watching. Okay. Thank God. Because this is not great. What they're talking about. And then they start complaining about the heat, especially Brian complaining about the heat it is I'm gonna say this too it is hot it is I still don't mind it I was out all day yesterday went to a car show drove to monster damn I don't mind I feel good in the seat well I just don't like if I'm indoor and it's hot or when you first get in your car it's right

right that's it was tough and if you are in the Sun like and by the way It's still it's June and we got July and we got August and then we got September and it ain't gonna get any That's gonna be say it pulls though and AC Yeah, chin AC's I will be fine. I Will be dirty dreading the next three months like it's fucking hot out there, and it's not even July yet. Jesus Christ. I guess this is Opie's dream show.

Like, Opie watches this, and he's like, these guys know how to do it. Open with some weather talk, some complaining, have no real format, and just kind of kill time. This is great. How do I get a friend to do this with me? This is like when Tom Myers, when you watch his stuff, and he obviously is copying Chad and you're like

Oh your influences are not the right influences if you want to put out a successful show You watch Rob Saul and he's doing John. Right? Yeah, it's like it's like you guys are picking from the wrong Creators it this sucks on so many levels because it's not good tourism Obviously, it's that doesn't paint Texas in a good light and it's not good comedy because he's not really willing to admit how much he hates it He's just kind of doing a little complaining but having that it's still good. It's still good, you know, haha It's not that's yes It's very service level and fake and that's why I am picking up on and I this is my beat now I am obsessed with this

I'll be checking out every fighter of the kid from here on out if it's worthy We'll bring to the program, but I'm checking it out either way because I can tell Brendan's job is miserable and you know what else I bet his family is fucking miserable. Oh, they are pissed the kids Took away from all their friends to be in this place where there's tarantulas monsters Monsters everywhere yeah, and this is supposed to be the honeymoon, the excitement when you get to a new place. It's a new build, right?

Yeah, it's a new build in a neighborhood with like 10 houses. And the neighbors are like, we're gonna throw a party for you guys, come on over, we're gonna barbecue, we're gonna play video games later. And Brendan's like, nah, it's's a school night I gotta get up and work out at 5 a.m. they're like oh yeah parties canceled guys yeah yeah like

he's having no fun you know his neighbors hate him and that was the one opportunity they did what southern people do they came to you with open arms you looked at them like northern suspicious people and it's over it's done no friends in your area never invite you in to have a beer and play some video games with us ever again fair enough yeah and bread and shop isn't like your average household name you know sure he's done some stuff we knew about him but I could see his neighbors getting together and be like so who's this new guy and they watch this Oh, yeah, or they read the subreddit

Well turns out running at a really bad day because he drove to this event that the kids wanted to go to and he parked in the parking garage and Unfortunately, his excursion is taller than the ceiling of the parking garage and unfortunately his excursion is taller than the ceiling of the parking garage and it said eight two was the clearance but that was just on the first floor. Soon as he got to the second floor, which sucks and he talks about this. Yep. Oh my day was tough. Wow. My day was tough. Oh no no.

I'll that is I'm not even a car guy. When I hit the bottom part of my fucking car, Oh yeah. Ugh, it's like, oh Jesus, you know? Dude, that's a cherry 2003 Ford Excursion. I just got done. Now, how bad is that? And when I see the, oh buddy,

it's like someone. Well, you got scalped. You got scalped. Oh, it was like so you got scalped you got scalped Oh, it was like two fucking hawks took their claws and sweat Giant hogs this new you might have the game drags his claws across the Wow to say retired Tigers teeth You got nice big big. Oh, but We did three different animals that can we try?

What are we doing saber-toothed tiger? So what you're looking what chemistry they have? They're tripping over each other with nonsense on this clip But this went on this story goes on for a long time I don't have a lot of clips on it, but Brendan had a very bad day because he's a big car guy and When he's even got a dent on his car it freaks him out and I have OCD So when there's a scratch it drives me nuts now when there's a million drives me nuts Oh, I can focus on I go nuts if my car has a dent or something. I gotta get embarrassed I'm in there so on my steering wheel deep the the outer layers

I can focus on I'm like I got to take this in immediately. I don't like my car having exterior damage. I Don't know that's an OCD thing Why is everything OCD? It's a natural feeling. Yeah, it's pretty natural like you got a nice car. It looks good And is this just like is shop just bringing everyone around him down because at this point I prefer steel tow because at least still to like is he cares he believes what he's saying They're not interested in this conversation. No, this is Torturous there was a saying about 90s songwriting when they were like, you know, just because it's in your diary doesn't mean it's a song

Right and you mean you could just work a little harder at it. Like this, I get it that they're natural and they they're seem like they're being themselves, but it's fucking boring and there's no entertainment happening. There's not until they get into barbecue talk and Brendan has found a barbecue place. Now where we last left you, he found a a taco place but he wasn't sure about the right barbecue place yet and so his Saturday was poppin he'll explain to you why check out this nice little Saturday I had yeah I went to interstellar barbecue during the day and then I watched UFC at night what a nice Texas Saturday Brennan just explained he had lunch at a restaurant and then watched TV at home later that night and that was a Texas Saturday.

Like a true Texan. He wants so badly to feel like he belongs and to feel like he's doing it right and this is working. And that's not a mistake. Literally, that's a guy who's trying to pretend it's working. Dude, I enjoyed this restaurant I went to. The barbecue was good. And then I was able to go home and watch UFC on my big-screen TV So this is great. I love it here

Do you know and my family's happy right? They better be oh actually that my youngest is getting bit by a tarantula as we speak all right. I'll be back So this is I know what you guys are thinking Interstellar barbecue the place he went to get lunch. Can we get a review? Because I'm not buying it. I want to know like what was good there Give us a recommendation on this and the prices the prices and the interstellar barbecue body really fuck whatever Recommendation we went there and it was closed. Where'd you go hurt my feelings you and I went there and it was Oh, no, we went to be cave. Okay. This is interstellar, which is a little more down

Buddy. Yeah it's the best I've had their pork belly their their beef ribs and their Their sides dude, I'll eat that shit right now. Really? Oh, they're cream corn? Cream corn. They're sides dude? Yeah, what do they got? Cream corn? Is he doing Krystalia right now? He was doing the jerk off motion about... And the sides dude? Like he's trying to be too excited about things that aren't exciting. That's a Krystalia impression, right?

Well the motion's a Louis C.K. thing. Good point. one of those comics This is a man who has not figured out anything yet He sounds like a hippie from the 60s trying to explain why he's for the war like no matter how hard We're still just looking at you in that outfit and saying you know this is going great. This is great. Yeah, I mean is we can't spread Let's do this it did you just not gonna buy it doesn't sound real something tells me interstellar is not the hidden secret you know barbecue place that he is trying to act like he's a local now let

him know the hot spots 24 locations every city I know it's thinking the same thing their famous creamed corn he was explaining dude they have ribs there and pork belly like Yeah, of course they do is it the sauce is it the way they prepare it like what is it about nothing? It's just a side Because I would eat the sides right now dude. Oh, so you're hungry go ahead I mean all your producer was flying back home on that Saturday Back to find a place to live. Hope you got him a to-go plate. Oh boy. Well, hope the homeless cats out there are enjoying what a breaded job is up to in Texas, because I know I am.

We have so much to get to today. Skinny Chad finally dropped the episode that I was in. And my friend Adam took some notes on that that we're gonna go through Maddox is trying to shut down our Boston show just can't win Maddox can't win Casey Armstrong Adam was on with Casey Armstrong we might get to that Stunnery John was on the sports web with Peter Blake he's also on a podcast talking about his divorce all right you want to talk about this interview I did with skinny Chad Sure

I'm gonna do it better out of the way cuz me talking in two different Instances is always I understand that the only thing I'm gonna ask you to do is to explain to everyone because I didn't know Going in what is the hamburger pants saga? Can you explain that because I did his show and this is what he wanted to talk to me about mostly and I was unaware of it I Got we have a PO box if you can find it on who are these comm We get a lot of great gifts from listeners and we appreciate that Lucy more so than anyone else, but we all get gifts from listeners and we appreciate that

Skinny Chad sent me hamburger pants that are elastic, like pajama pants. The size was 2XL. Kind of insulting. Do I look like a 2XL? I'm not. Anyway, so he sent me these pants that have printed hamburgers on them and he asked me to put them on and take a photo of them on and It took me a while to get to that task. It didn't make it to the top of my to-do list. It actually was Quite low on my to-do list As far as I like to prioritize to do how did he handle that? How did he handle the time between when he sent you the pants and when you finally delivered? So he got very upset with me and it started as like some

Nudging like hey girl. Don't forget. You gotta get those things and I know it's like oh, yeah I'll do that and then it turned into super chats and emails and direct messages on acts and just a barrage of communications Telling me that I need to put the pants on and the more I got these The less I wanted to do it. How about that? Interesting how that works as you might assume because I um did an interview on his show and

It took me a little while to bring it here and he was very anxious that entire time He was sending similar messages going when is is this going to happen? I guess Adam's afraid. Maybe he's never going to do it. But it was very important to him that he explained to me this hamburger pants saga. And when I couldn't deliver whatever response he was looking for, you went on the show to talk to him about it after having sent him the pictures. And I believe what we have here now is a man kind of trapped inside this character that he's created for himself. He says he's the mean hatchet man who dishes out, you know, all the bad news and the disses and he's relentless.

And he wants to play this character, but he doesn't want there to be any repercussions or any reactions to anything that he says and does. That's not okay. So he is trapped and he doesn't know how to get out. And what we're going to see here is him just going back and forth between railing at you in a comedic way and then needing very real serious explanations to the feelings he's having and help with them. Which, unfortunately, I tried for an hour and 40 minutes and I couldn't. You tried for as long as you could

until the stream ended on him and he was forced to just end it. There was a tech issue that happened that we didn't know about at the time. And so we talked for another 10 minutes and he didn't, it was gone. He didn't have, he was disappointed by that. So I won't keep us from it.

This first one is where he just introduces you and he quickly gets to the heart of what's on his mind within the first minute. Hey guys, how's it going? Welcome to another episode of Conspiracy Theory. We're just going to hit the ground run and no intro this time. Cause we got time to fill. I have with me the man of the hour, or at least my hour. I just love that he comes around. here we go we got a lot of times we gotta go right to it we have

carl he's coming right like he's already out of breath that was already a lot for him also we have time to fill yeah yeah the opposite of what he's talking about here it's like we got time so stretch out. Take

our time. He goes by many names. Chompers, Lady K, the man with clubbed feet. He who walks in hamburger pants, burger goblin Carl. Okay, maybe not the last one. But if my plans hadn't been thwarted, that would have been the case. How are you doing, Carl? I'm doing well. Skinny Chad, thanks for having me. I don't think people call me any of those names, but it's interesting that you-

Not to your face. Ah, I see, fair enough. Not to your face. It was my goal to eventually get into like the side of, like to get on Chad's show and maybe KB's show one of these days and you know put in the little mind bug and get Burger Goblin Carl into the lexicon. Okay. One day where they're like saying like...

People aren't picking up on that? Yeah, well I kind of had to like get on those shows first, but it's like I've been like trying to crawl up the community ladder for like, I don't know, so many years. Since I started the Skinny Chad persona, as you see, I got my hat on the side here. I just figured I'd take the hat off and just, you know, no goofy stuff today. It's just... It's very tough. Yeah, it's a serious conversation we're having.

Good. Yeah. Off to a great start. Yeah. There's a lot going on there and I appreciate, Carl, you're really trying to like steer him away from the kind of fantastical stuff and maybe just try and get to know him a little bit and that happens right here, you try, very hard. And then put them in a special file someplace

so that they're accessible. Okay. Like webtoons, like I did with my pull-up comic, The Triumph of Eric July. Ah, nice. Are you a big Eric July fan? Huh? Are you an Eric July fan? No, but I'm trying to convince people that I am. Got it. So your whole persona is the opposite of how you really feel about things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I, well, and I guess what's happened lately is I guess I sort of I don't know if I'm either

playing the character too well or something of that nature, but I guess it comes off like I might have had. Are you like genuinely offended by anything that I've said or done? Am I now? But on your show, you said that I'm a creep though. Well you do creepy things. Like what? Well, like sending me pants in the mouth and telling me to take a photo wearing them for

you. That's not a normal thing. You're the only person who's ever done that to me. Yeah, that is pretty weird. All right. We have some agreement there. Yeah, I like that we have some agreement going early on in the show because I wasn't sure what to make of any of this.

No, I don't think he is either. He's like a method actor who's trapped. He's in too deep and he doesn't enjoy this feeling of not being able to control people's responses. He had this fantasy, you're going to wear the pants and then this thing is going to happen.

I don't know what it is, but it was in his mind. He had a thing. I'm going to go on a show. He was going to show me some dolls. I was going to say a specific thing and then we were going to get married. I don't know. Something was going to happen. And when whatever he wanted doesn't happen, he doesn't know how to process it.

And that's what he expresses right here. And the whole crux of the hamburger pan saga, as I like to call it, is that I hassle you to put them on. It took a lot longer than I thought it would. on. It took a lot longer than I thought it would. And I guess in that I got actually frustrated. You were actually angry with me, right? Yeah, frustrated. Frustrated isn't angry. Okay. How are you feeling now? Are we on good terms? We'll see. The thing is that I would always try to wrap everything in a joke.

Okay, that's the thing. I needed everything to be funny. Sure. I needed it to be hilarious. I remember whenever I would send a super chat, you know, demanding put on those hamburger pants, girl, I'd always wrap it up in a joke. I remember I'm telling you the same thing. They just like, yeah, yeah, I do all these things and I tell people to do this and I make them do that because it's funny. You're like, okay, how is it? Who's it funny for? Yeah, he went as far as to say hilarious. Yes, hilarious.

And when the joke takes longer than he would like, he gets frustrated. I noticed that. I'm surprised you didn't say that. I'm not mad, just disappointed. Yeah, yeah. It's, you're being real. He sent me this image. I don't know if he made this for this episode.

Yeah. But Skinny Chad, the WTP lightsaber going through the captain's hat, a dabbler no more more is is skinny Chad saying he's out of the dabble verse He's doing a Phil Elmore. He he he's trying to climb the dabbler social ladder right and every step he does Leads him further away, but he can't stop trying So he's going to extremes now now so now he's quitting and he's moving on and everything's different. Exactly. Thank you Kelsey. And it's interesting because very much like

Portnoy we were saying there's a desire to be frustrated he doesn't want resolve he explains to you what to do with it if he had it. Exactly. What not to do with a friend if he found him. So you ask him about the interview we did together and he expresses his thoughts on it. I was trying to either... I totally admit on that interview I completely ate shit. I totally ate shit on this. I guess I thought I was more clever than I thought I was. And it's 100% my fault that it turned out that way. I thought it turned out good. I enjoyed the clips that Adam brought to WATP and definitely

enlightened me about your characters that you play and what your approach is and your angles on things. So I don't feel bad about that I thought it was good. No what I don't feel bad about that what I feel bad about is that everybody in the double verse thinks I'm a big creep now and that's kind of odd. Yes that is true. Yep. So he didn't feel bad about the interview he felt bad about how people reacted to the interview. About the interview he felt bad about how people reacted to the interview Yeah, and when I expected understand I'm no, please. It's when I explained to him. Maybe

Carl didn't find you found it hilarious. Maybe Carl felt the pants were intrusive. Maybe he thought you were making fun of him I don't know. Maybe he just had an opinion. He doesn't like that. That's not fair That's not what was supposed to happen. This was supposed to happen this way, and then he would be a hero. And you keep trying, man. You keep trying to steer this away from Mayor McChese and into something more grounded, and you get him for a second here before he just veers right off. Is number five right? Yes, we are. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes we are and I just want to add that um, you've worn the pants You've sent him a photo of them and you've showed up on his show, correct? Now he feels emboldened to take the next step, which is the natural evolution of every dabble verse relationship

See Now I have a whole list of stuff. So let me see if I cover everything. Oh yeah. Also, you know how you tell people, you know, just do it? Like, if you can assume me, just do it. Yeah. Okay.

Well, I've, I've, I actually filed charges against you in Davelcourt. Okay. And I contacted Lucy Titebox to represent me. Okay. And so that way, if I think I sent you a copy of the charges and it was going to be like extortion for taking so long, I'm putting it on the hamburger pants. Well, you live in an interesting fantasy world, don't you? Yeah. Uh, yeah. Oh, came back, came in back in December. It looks like,

try to rule over this. Yeah. Yeah. But I think I'll drop a couple of the charges. Although there is a new charge that I think I'll drop a couple of the charges. Okay. Okay. Although there is a new charge that I think I should bring up, which is the lately I've I've noticed you've been showcasing your twig feet, your twigs. You have very thin legs. Showcasing them? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

We were in Vegas and I wore shorts. I think everyone does. It's 100 degrees. And everyone commented on them. Oh, I'm supposed to be able to help that? I can't help that. What you don't understand is that infringes on my artistic representation of Burger Goblin Carl with the twig feet.

So you're in violation of my artistic representation. I see another charge I should charge I should take you to court for that. Yeah, I don't know that you're going to get too far with that considering which came first. Yeah, I didn't transform after your comic came out. You might want to just rethink that one. Okay. I guess I can exercise some mercy. So aside from that, I guess I just want to make sure that we're good.

I thought Carl just wanted to make sure you were good a couple minutes ago. This was an interesting point of the interview where I realized that we're just going to talk about fantastical things and that this was a huge waste of my time because now I'm just like entering into his world. I had to go through my emails and search on his name and I saw there's an email that came in in December that guys I'm talking to the city winery in Boston right now directly but to anyone else too. Don't send me super long emails They stress me out. I can't take it. If you send me an email with 20 or more paragraphs

There's a real good chance. It never gets read. That's I I know I can probably put it in the chat GPT and get it summarized this fucking email from City Winery can they do a little research and see that we're not a band before they list every fucking piece of equipment and want to know what we're bringing Jesus I realize it's just the standard fucking thing but then they get all annoyed like how could we ever responded yet? Because you want to know if I want to borrow your Marshall twin Which doesn't exist, but you get my yes, we do Anyway, I'm sorry what are we saying?

I just I was funny. This is like and I sent you an email about taking you to dabble court I'm like you did and I'm like in my email like oh, yeah, there it is sure enough again Adam brought this up when he was on Skinny Chad's show. Yeah, it's like you do these things and you put the energy on the other person expecting something Yeah, they owe you nothing. I But I try I really do tried you try to read every note that comes in. I try to respond to every note that I can. I really put in the effort to do this stuff, but I have to prioritize things in my life, like sitting with Adam for way too long on Wednesday evenings. Yes, that's what's important. That's what's

important to me. What you have to understand is there is no scenario in Chad's mind where you didn't get to the email yet You obviously got to it and every day you don't respond is a communication directly to him right? You're this is a warm. Yeah, this is a battle going on and there is nothing You can do to change his mind. I responded to my emails from I heart media I might get a sweet deal like opi dad I've not even gotten back to these people yet. I'm definitely not gonna get back to a double court summons Real people try to sue me here

Not in tablok or but you see he comes with this idea Okay, do you have another 20 minutes? I gotta talk to you about this Dappelcord thing. Yeah, Lucy Tightbox a tough cookie And she's representing Jen on this one So he's a jilted lover well not exactly, but he acts like it. But it feels like that yes He reaches out to the pants you you wear the pants you sent him the picture He reaches out to me we talk about the pants he reaches out to you you talk about the pants you send him the picture. He reaches out to me. We talk about the pants He reaches out to you you talk about the pants and after a half hour his question is are we are you go we cool? There's only so much that we can do it doesn't dumb you didn't pull this clip

But I also reminded him during this interview that he traveled to Rochester Forget where he lives, southwest somewhere I think. He traveled to Rochester to come to one of the events we had at Comedy of the Carlson on the subreddit of Sir Fang maybe or something like that. And I remember on Sunday we put out a note like, hey, if you guys want to hang out, we're going to be at the Jenny Brew Pub. And he was there and I sat next to him for a couple of hours and we hung out and there were some other people there who came into Rochester for the shows and stuff too.

And we sat and hung out and whatever and then I'm like, all right, I gotta go. See you guys. It's like, am I not holding up my end of the bargain? I'm really trying here. I'm really going above and beyond, I feel like. I explain it to him as a fan, the relationships I've had to the people I'm fans fans of I explained it to him as someone who's had people that are fans of me all of the different scenarios Yeah, and with each attempt to get to feeling closer to this thing He loves he ends up feeling farther away. So after all of this he's like

Dabble court and Lucy's gonna get involved and now she's gonna do this for me, and it's all the same Well yeah, that's what we said To tell Lucy what to wear that's right, and he's earned it god damn it When I explained to him why the pants thing could be creepy it was because because it Turns into something like that now Lucy has to wear and eat and do whatever we say like where does this end? Do you have six next or seven six? Yeah, you try once again to steer this into something rational. He won't do it the interview Yeah, so no one's gonna watch this so we could we could like openly plot to

to you know, take over the dabble verse entirely, you know, and no one would get a hint. All of our secret plans. Let's not do that. You want to talk about anything real? You want to think about any real stuff that's going on? Well, let's see. I'm going to go over my notes.

You used to work at E-Bones World, is that right? That is right, yes. For some reason I keep wanting to say E-Fucked. Yeah. So we talk about all this like fantasy land that he's in for a while and I finally go, okay, are we going to talk about something I can actually have a conversation about or what are we doing that's it this the extent of the conversation that little back and forth about e-bomb is where it ends and then he just kind of goes back to talking about himself this

next clip I call kill your idols yes at the time I think you were you ran into that that issue with The Vanishing. How long ago was that? That would have been 2018, maybe 2017. Okay. So I've been a listener since then. Cool. Okay.

And then I've been following the show and doing all that stuff. That's awesome, man. You go way back. Yeah. I know. So you can understand how I felt when I when I felt like I got thrown out of the bus type of thing. You would understand I'd be a little bit like, Nope, I'm a fan of lots of things. I don't expect anyone who's a part of that to talk to me or react to me. I'm a I've told you I'm a huge Ween fan, my favorite band. And I got an opportunity to open for the lead singer Aaron Freeman at this venue. My band got to open for him. It was very exciting. And they said, Carl, Aaron's right back there in the green room if you

want to go talk to him. And I went, nope, he doesn't owe me anything. I've enjoyed his music. He's given me things that I've enjoyed and I have no reason to talk to him. Unless he comes to me and goes, Carl, I'm a huge WTP fan. I don't have any desire to reach out to him and have a relationship with him. So you don't have to have a relationship with people just because you appreciate their work or enjoy their art. All right. I guess there's some underlying message that you're trying to beat into my head. Oh, no, no, no. It's not underlying. It's specifically, there's don't. Yeah, I was trying to say underline, I think.

It's like I was. It could be more direct. Yeah, it wasn't just an aside. I was explaining specifically how you should respond to artists that you enjoy. Honey, it's over. I've packed the bags. I'm taking the kids. We're getting a divorce. I feel like you're. Honey, it's over. I've packed the bags. I'm taking the kids.

We're getting a divorce. I feel like you're subtly trying to... What are you trying to say here? What are you getting at? What are you beating around? What do you really mean? I mean, it's interesting. I've had those moments with Quadfather.

You bring them right to the point of enlightenment and they recognize it and then go, yeah, but this is familiar. I'm just going to go back to this other thing. This is what I know what to do with. And what's interesting is that you would think he would find this sort of interview mean spirited like he says, but apparently it's okay when it's other people. Well, it's not, it's like no matter what I'm saying, I'm going to come off sounding crazy. So, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Listen, I don't think you're crazy. I'm just, I'm just letting you know how I think about entertainment and the people that I admire who I'm a fan of. Okay. Cause it's just like the whole, you know, I guess reaching out and stuff. And I do kind of feel like I was thrown under the bus in the sort of way That the second you feel that way man. I don't know what to tell you Yeah, it's another phrase. He's misusing

Well, you know that but then I bring it up to you and I ask and you just you just tell me then as I well That if that's just the way it is, then I guess that's the way it is Okay. So what did I do to throw you under the bus? well, it's like the sort of the I felt it was like the segment and stuff like that and calling it the worst interview. And then, and then, you know, like the whole, this is just about Adam bringing that segment to the show. Now if that wasn't okay, let me ask you this. I don't know if you can even do this exercise, but if that was a different listener or let's

say that was Rob Saul's show or someone else's show, would you have enjoyed that segment? Yeah, probably would have. But then I guess that's sort of the difference is that, you know, when it happens to you eventually. Yeah. Right. Had a little breakthrough. I guess. Yeah. And he even, he even put up a graphic on there that goes, okay, Carl Durr. When I was like, obviously you'd feel differently about it if it weren't you specifically.

Yeah, Durr. You're not understanding what I'm telling you here. This is what we do on WATP. It's the whole point of the show. You think we're going to celebrate? Like, holy shit, Skinny Chad, this guy's the best. I can't believe how great his podcast says Well, you don't do that and

What's crazy is he's like? Why did you say it that my interview wasn't good that was really mean and then you go well Let me try and explain it to you and you okay? Which one is it is he the sensitive fan or is he the mean-spirited hatchet man? Also, he's mad about the the title of it or the thumbnail We gotta get people to click on this shit. I can't just be like and I went on skinny Chad show You know it's gonna be the worst interview ever right that's some of you on a click guy like okay What's that all about? It wasn't that far guys getting along?

You want to click on like okay? What's that all about? Guys getting along That sounds fun He you explain this to him very clearly and he says oh, yeah Well, I actually titled my version of the interview this so that people would click on it, okay? So you do get it. Yeah, and what's fascinating is that you you end like if these are things that are bothering him, you're setting him free from them. He's like, I thought the interview went badly. You're like, I thought it went great.

He's like, I thought this guy hates me. You're like, the guy actually doesn't hate you. And none of this brings him relief. So now that you've kind of solved every one of these issues, now he's going to get down to what the real issue is. Finally. Yeah, sorry. What's the beef here?

All these things. Okay. I do have like a legit beef on one of your segments. Okay. All right. We'll see if we're still friends after this. Wait, we never were friends, but you know what I mean. Yeah.

The, when you had Ray on and you did a segment on a podcast called Weaponized. Yes. Remind me what Weaponized was. Weaponized was Jeremy Corbell where they talk about UFOs and the disclosure movement. Yes. I guess you had a whole segment planned and instead Ray and you just sang songs. Oh, would Ray and I have never sang songs? I pulled out a mandolin when I was on his show once.

Well, he wanted to sing a song, I believe. He sings a lot. Yeah, that's true. But I did the segment. We did the segment on Weapon Eyes. I pulled a bunch of clips and I went through it He got the gist of it Yeah, yeah, that that's the thing is that I kind of feel like you guys were sitting on gold Okay, because what? Do you think they're crackpots? What do you think? well

I don't know how much you know about jeremy corbell, but he is in my field in the paranormal field He's one of the the the you know prominent disclosure bros yes and he's got so much baggage that he's practically a locale himself okay yeah I didn't know that I just need him on Joe Rogan but I guess it's been a long time yeah it's he's a character. One. He's going to kill us, isn't he? Dude, yeah, I was so surprised when it came to this, where he's just like, I didn't appreciate when you guys reviewed weaponized. I was like, oh, okay, tell me about it. And he's like, you need to explain that this guy's full of shit and he was

proven wrong in this instance. And this time, like I listened to one episode of the show and reviewed it, man. I don't know what to tell you. I'm not an investigative journalist. That's his legitimate beef with you. I guess. I don't know if he just came up with it on the fly there or if that was in his notes. It's hard to tell. I don't know. But he hears your response and then he just talks for another four minutes Yeah, and then as soon as you're about to respond that it just ends. I guess he had a technical problem and The show's over. That's it. But he put up a little a little Bumper at the end a little bump there to a message to you of a moment from did you get to see this?

I did. Yes. Okay, so this is I guess what he's trying to say so says show cut short due to nap time and Carl's audio cut out my fault so he makes fun of me one last time mm-hmm and that admits that it definitely did with anything that I did wrong any are there any reviews you have yeah there's a couple of new ones I finally came in but I'm only gonna read one today because it's kind of long. Thank you. Carl is a wish hoarding burger goblin. In recent episodes, burger goblin Carl has gotten into the habit of granting patrons

and fans wishes, wearing their material offerings from burger hats to- So anyway, I don't have to play this whole thing, but Annie's reading a review that obviously Skinny Chad posted, and it's like deep into his psychosis of the world that he lives in, where anytime I show a product that I get, like for example, I still have this necracada bulldo next to me, because I use it when Lucy's over. And so if I show this on the screen,

I'm not wearing hamburger pants, that is a personal slight to Skitty Chad If you're wearing any clothes Can you believe this guy's wearing pants that have hamburgers on him the fuck's his problem? And by the way, he trashes you in the show for a long time in that review and then gives it one star And then yeah, I gave it a gave it a one star actually did try and she was a dick about it. Uh-huh That's all it does feel like talk radio that Eric Boghossian Yeah play and movie where he's a radio host and you know

The fan doesn't know what they want from them But they know it's something and it's strong and it could either be like Love or sex or I just got a kill you or I don't want to be you I want to be next like they don't know but he's trapped right now and I really hope he can see that these moves are not helping and I Stopped caring about what the people I admire think about me When I learned that it might result in me not wanting to listen to their music anymore or listen to their comedy And I realized their art was more important than this fucking awkward

interaction in an elevator and I don't need, I love this music and I'm not gonna not want to listen to it because the guy was rude to me in an elevator so I'll just enjoy the music, I'll avoid this interaction and I'll keep this to myself. That's all. It's enough, Chad. It really, really is. That's a very mature way to look at life. Can I tell you what an immature way to look at life is? Vito Giswoldi telling me he can no longer watch WATP because we're not friends anymore. Laying that on me like, oh, well, this sucks, man. I guess I won't be checking out your show anymore. I'm like dude

That's like the most Girl shit you could say but anyway to your point. Yeah, I want to tell skinny Chad. He's gonna be in Boston dude We love you. We love that. You're a fan of the show hang with us. We're gonna have a great time Just you know relax yeah just be cool just be a guy we're all guys talented artist he's a great graphic artist comic artist you know you don't have to uh yeah we look forward to having a drink with you in Boston correct we're looking for now living through it successfully yes don't forget that part Cardiff is here with us today

Wow What's up, Cardiff? You're lucky that you avoided double core with that case because you would have lost That case All the evidence as well I saw those emails You were copied on that shit were you I was it'll be great when John stream snipes that double court case Adam all right, that's go about the DUI's we still have Maddox trying to take down the Boston live show We still have stuttering John stuff to get to guys. Thank you so much for being here for supporting the show I Have some bad news. Maddox, you know, we had the,

uh, this show down in Tampa. This was the Dick road raid show in Tampa. Maddox reached out to the mayor. He reached out to the venue. He reached out to the police to warn them about this alt-right Nazi show that was going to happen in their city. And he tried to get our show canceled. And I thought, well, he's obviously learned his lesson. Since then, it's not going to try any more of these shenanigans, is he?

Hello, hello, you worthless pieces of shit. I thought Boston wasn't a safe space for Nazis guess I was wrong Road rage Boston is coming to a Boston near you I've gone it with about how dick and his fans are stalkers pedophiles Mexicans and bigots But that is nothing compared to what the W ATP audience is just look at their club-footed big cheese. That's right I'm coming after you Carl. I did my best to stop Carl from being able to do Boston Road rage Unfortunately, it appears some magical forces protecting Carl. Fuck Carl. Is that AI?

This is AI. Yes. Johnny Rockett. I heard this on the Dick show this week. I'm like, you got to send me these. These are great. Johnny Rockett puts this up. He has a comic book called The Maniac with a K at the end. And these are really funny. As we all know, Hitler gave speeches in beer halls. Look what that led to. And it obviously follows that podcasters cannot be allowed to have live shows at wineries. I'm surprised I had to contact the venue at all. It's a winery in Massachusetts, the first state to legalize gay marriage. How are Dick and Carl even allowed to buy plane tickets to that state?

Don't tell them Wilbur and Orville Wright, proud husband and husband, built the first airplane. Dick will have an aneurysm and Carl will start jacking off. Happy Pride Month. Was Vermont. Yeah, I thought they were brothers, but what do I know? When I saw that they would be performing in Boston, I grabbed my roommate's phone and called the venue up. This must be shut down. Someone must have told them I would call, but gaslit them about me being the bad guy. I am of course referencing the movie Gaslight where a man lies to a woman to convince her she's crazy.

Dick and Carl are the liar guy. Myself the venue owner and listeners are the woman. Anyway, the venue owner said I was obviously some kind of prank caller because my voice sounds so silly. I tried to warn him that hosting Dick and Carl was phase zero of the second holocaust. He hung up on me, basically making him that guy who saved little boy Hitler from drowning. If you're not familiar with Maddox's cadence and writing style, this is so spot on. It's incredible what this sounds like.

It sounds like exactly what Maddox would be saying. He put out a over three hour long documentary about Dick Masterson being his stalker. Oh. And it sounds just like this. I would not give up so easily. I knew face to face was the only way I'd be heard. It was up to me to save billions. I grabbed my bindle and hopped on the first cross-country train that the ruthless gangs

of LA's homeless weren't trying to have sex with. With my comfy slime blanket as my cocoon, it was a wonderfully scenic tour of our once great nation. It made me nostalgic for the days when thugs like Carl and Johnny storming the Capitol was unthinkable. How naive we were. Like how Chinese people still believe in dragons, we used to believe in fair play and justice. Johnny and I stormed the Capitol, I don't remember that. Although I didn't know Johnny real well. So it's possible we didn't meet up. I arrived in Boston, the home of Samuel Adams and other beers.

The buildings were scary and the cobblestone sidewalks forced me to crab walk in order to avoid falling. Not five minutes after my arrival did a group of tan men wearing Irish pride shirts called me the N-word. I corrected them. I am Armenian. Undeterred they then started cheering for the country of Turkey and then the Red Sox. One of the thugs began listing the Red Sox players he would have sex with. I'm surprised it took me so long to recognize him.

It was Carl. Jesus Christ. I'm not even familiar with the current Red Sox roster. I'm more of a National League guy Certainly not getting high which cubs would you like him to have sex with? Pete Crowe Armstrong's on the top. I mean, uh, I Vowed to Carl right then and there I would get the show canceled Carl said in his real voice You'll never pull that off my dear. I thought this was gonna be the end of me.

Just then, Dave Portnoy waddled out of a pizza shop. What luck. I grabbed the steaming hot pie and threw it in Carl's face. I really got him good. That's why the next time you see Carl, his face will be all fucked up and shit. Every part of it.

Then to deal with the rest of his gang, I rolled Dave Portnoy like a boulder right through them. Dave was pretty pissed until I explained to him we were stopping the second holocaust. Like Terminator, I was Kyle Reese and Dave was Sarah Connor and together we would kill John Connor. Yes, Dave definitely would be behind that. That's how Boston got canceled. And yes, when you do see me in Boston face to face, I was hit with a hot piece of pizza in the face right before that's why I look this way.

Stop judging so much. I finally arrived at the venue. The door wouldn't budge. I could see the owner at the counter, but he couldn't see me for some reason. I banged on the glass and yelled as loud as I could. Carl must be stopped. Somehow he didn't see or hear me. He even made a phone call. Some important venue business, I'm sure. The point is, even injured and disfigured, Carl has the ability to make people several miles away silent and invisible to venue owners. But the police officers who arrested me for making a scene saw me just fine.

I am in jail. I don't know for how long. I guess I'll pass the time by writing a book. To all of you listening to this, do whatever you can to stop Carl. If that means going undercover at the event and doing what needs to be done, you have my blessing. Going undercover? Like, dressing up as like Chad Zumach?

Or a banana. Or a banana. Is that what you're Telling people to do there's better ways to shut down a WITP live event Well, we don't need to discuss them on this show. What would you recommend? Well, I mean I had a great plan once Yeah, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of Feces, I think at the front entrance or deep-dish pizza diarrhea that's right surrounding the venue Yes, I think we could just isn't Boston famous for beans Do something with that? Kurt about a little less the best strategy I remember Boston cheeseburgers are famous

I remember telling you on your show why that wasn't gonna work cuz there was another entrance around the back Yeah, we got a lot of diarrhea. Oh In that case, I don't know how to get around a diarrhea moat That might actually do it up because we got to talk about stuttering John. He just did the Tampa Sports Expo this past weekend and once again, I love when he does these expos Cuz he's very bored. There's no one going to see him only John lonely John Because he's very bored. There's no one going to see him only John lonely John So he did hop on a podcast which is great. We're gonna talk about that. All right, let's get into

The latest from our buddy stuttering John Who did what stuttering John John's alive right now I called this yesterday I called this yesterday at Twitter. his monetization is about to run out Right now he's got a black screen. Okay, so that's going live to keep the the channel alive There he goes You know I'll share this with everybody sleep stream. Oh We've got his Venmo up there. Oh, yeah nasty member remember for 15 months why he sees continuing his membership Says oh Yeah, I could not have been better. I could not my call couldn't have been closer

Congrats yesterday Carl. I called this you are the stutjo whisperer cardiff You've got him figured out for sure he really is offering everyone nothing fuck you pay me literally at this point Yeah, nothing just a blank screen That's what Christian Blanks over there. He goes all even lady K. Wait Christian. Are you don't walk around our show? It's going on my ride home Christian. What the fuck? Super chats rolling in all right. Yeah, look at rev. Fugly welcome back shit He's gonna let this go for hours probably fuck you pay me He should be on super tips cuz you could just run this with super tips auto interrupting.

He doesn't have to be there. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. We can be lazier. Yes. Hard to do. Hard to believe.

All right. Let's get into this stuttery job stuff. So stuttering John during this interview, he was listing people he's met through show business and going through who the good ones are, you know, Larry the cable guy and all that kind of stuff. The interviewer, Peter Blayte from on the sports web, or the sports web I should say in Tampa, Peter doesn't ask him, what do you hate about Howard Stern? Who's a shithead in Hollywood? But John offers his information up. I did a lot of this interview, I covered it on point devil point this week, where he's so bitter about Howard Stern the guy just asked like was it like working for Stern?

You know question anyone would ask and John just turned it always cheap He was a prick. You know he just goes through all these different things It's like not a single compliment for this guy that you should look up to and realize he created his amazing career in radio So what's it like working there? look up to and realize he created this amazing career in radio. So what's it like working there? You're right. It's just, he just has to bash people. So this is his own transition from the good people to the people he wants to shit on while he's on the show.

And Doug Stanhope couldn't be, couldn't be a cooler dude. And Larry the Campbell guy, another good friend of mine, his real name is Dan Whitney. That guy is one of the nicest people you ever meet Now I can talk about the a-holes. I met in the business sure always be bashing John doesn't even know how to talk about someone he Appreciates no he doesn't know how to talk but he's one now. He can't talk but he just goes listen

You want to know who's great Doug Stanhope Where the cable guy can we talk about people who suck now, please? He's like yeah, I guess so So but even the Larry the cable guy thing why his real name is Dan Whitney, right? Yeah, but we watched him learn that on his fucking show. What's the DW stand? Yeah, he had a W at the back of his shirt goes? What's the W for as well as my name But John is an insider though card if he has to prove He knows more than this guy does about show business. I know he's Larry the cable guy's name

You know what kills me is that he doesn't realize like anyone that says to him. Oh, I know you from Howard Stern What was he like and then he talks about what an asshole he was. Like, no one wants to hear that. No. That you're breaking their heart. Like, it's disappointing. Every time he does that, the person who asked or the host is like, oh, fuck.

Like, as a fan, you don't wanna hear it. As a listener, you don't wanna hear it. We wanna hear the good stuff. You're just upsetting people. You're just, yeah, you know that hero of yours? Total dick, asshole, don't like him. Also, he was there for 15 years, 14 years. It'd be one thing if it's Stephanie Miller,

and you're like, oh God, I could not work for that bitch. She was terrible. Okay, how long did you work there? A month. I get it. You worked for Howard Stern, what was that like? Oh, miserable, awful. You were there for 15 years.

That's right. That's not you. Anyway, do you want me to sign this picture of me giving Howard a Christmas present? Yes. For the greatest day of my life? Oh dude, somebody sent me that and I should have had it ready for this show. Someone sent me what John was offering to sign because he got a couple autographs when he was at the Tampa Expo. Damn it, I should have had that prepared.

Anyway. I think I have that somewhere. Do you? This chat's all L's by the way, in case you're wondering. Ha ha ha ha. He just missed a huge opportunity to play his copyrighted music and strike me

because I never snipe shows. I don't do that over here and we were just sniping him. Missed opportunity for Johnny, wasn't quick enough. But yeah, he was, he was, it's crazy. There's a really old photo of him with Howard and Jackie. No one looks good in the photo. It's not well lit. It definitely was never meant to be like a press pick.

And he's signing that for people. Howard famously did not want anyone put his face or likeness on any merchandise ever and was upset with anyone who wanted to do that who was a part of his show. He thought it cheapened the show and he didn't want to take advantage of his listeners by just putting his face on a shirt or an image or something. And look at what John's up to now. This asshole boss that he worked for. Yep. But he's so controlling of his image. You know, there's those pictures of every guest

that had been on the Sirius show of them. They get to take their picture with Howard. And if you remove the guest, it looks like the same photo. Howard wants to be photographed in this pose, with his hand like that, doing this thing. And John's just throwing out this candid picture. I'm guessing because he loves to tell every single person the story of how he didn't get a good Christmas gift from Howard. He got the thing of popcorn He looked for the check. There was no check. So what's the picture? He wants to sign? It's John holding this Oversized novelty Christmas gift box that he's giving to Howard I feel like he thinks that's the end of that story and see how generous I was. You're right

And he did tell that story on this guy's show by the way with Peter Blake We played on point devil point on Monday. But first, John wanted to transition a conversation about celebrities to people he wants to bash. So let's see what he's got here. Now the top two people that I met were because I helped Chelsea handler in the beginning. Okay. I put her on my tour and then she became a real biatch. And I, she's really, she's been horrible, she's been known to be a horrible person.

Right. The other one that I found really odd was Ryan Seacrest. And I'm gonna get back to radio here because now I'm on the Tonight Show. Right. I'm the announcer. Right. And I see, and I go backstage with Ryan who's next He's a radio guy sure I'm a radio guy. Yeah, and I just said it's a fraternity by the way

I have a radio too and I feel like yeah, just to remind him. We're competing against each other. Shut up Peter Peter jumps in for some reason. He jumps in because did you see the look he was giving him? He's like, okay, so you don't want a career in right and you don't want me to have a career in radio Okay, we're just gonna sit here and talk shit about Radio broadcasts the the Casey Kasem of our day local comics that might come through like he's just looking like what the fuck is wrong With you why he tries to do the subject, correct? I I love this idea that John goes Chelsea Handler well known to be a bitch It's not just me saying this and all I ever do is try to help the woman Anyone who was on St. John and Friends tour was helping John. Yes, John needed someone to fill that time

So that people would go and laugh and get their money's worth and then John took half the money But he actually he's giving people their start by being on the Stuttering John and Friends tour which is insane. Everyone knows John but yeah he goes into Ryan Seacrest. I'm a radio guy he's a radio guy. Ryan Seacrest is a radio guy like if I said Joe Rogan's a podcaster I'm a podcaster. Yeah you know it's like we're not even the same leagues here what are you talking about? Yeah so I go up to Joe and I'm like, Hey Joe, you know, I do a show on YouTube too. And he's, he wasn't as impressed with that. I couldn't believe it.

Guys like you and me, Joe, did you get the hamburger pants? When did you wear them? Right. So this is an attempt at a dick joke that fails miserably. And I don't know what John thought was going to happen here. So I went backstage I know I mean God I'm the one announcing his freaking name and he wasn't as big yet, right? He only had I think one show as opposed to the 2000 But for him by the way

You know, he's the next Dick Clark and I use the Let me put some let me put some focus on Dick anyway, so uh Dick Clark yes of course yes of course yes they're still doing that by the way even though he's he's dead let me put some focus on dick anyways was that touches him yeah yeah get it cuz his first name is dick yeah sure is good stuff who's a focus on Dick? Now the guy's leaning away from him immediately

because you were touching me and being weird. Can I ask a question? Did John design the set? Because this is his normal cardboard box background. Like this is his brand. Right, it's terrible. I don't know if he leaned his greasy head on that Riddell box.

That stain there. That'd be a, yeah, that's the stain. Yeah, so this is from the sports expo, obviously, because there's just a bunch of boxes and football helmets strewn about. This is what the sports expo should be. I'm not stuttering John. Yeah, that's what it's called. Can I take some of these boxes with me? I also did you guys notice that John goes so Ryan Seacrest on the night show before he was like super famous right Ryan Seacrest Was the host of America's Got Talent mm-hmm?

What American Idol or American Idol? Thank you American Idol. Okay, right. Thank you Eric so American Idol was the biggest show on TV it was like 30 million viewers. We're tuning into it every day Ryan Seacrest was that so that Humperdink guy, but he Gone, yeah, I don't know him no more. Well John tours with him John did tour But yeah, so it's just it's weird that John's like, you know he wasn't that famous back then as if like Ryan Seacrest supposed to be desperate for a Commeratory or companionship and stuttering John but John doesn't know why he says things like that except that he's always bashing. Yes So you know how?

Sorry, but you know how Ryan Seacrest was famous at the time. How's that? He was a guest on the Tonight Show in the early 2000s, right? That's how you know he's famous famous very funny correct and just like it. He's looking at him like Okay, you're shitting on Ryan Seacrest and you're praising Brian Dunkelman This is not the horse to bet on. Like, it just communicates, get away from this guy. He doesn't know what he's doing. John has the balls to say, and I'm the one announcing him.

I know, as if that's not his just job. Right. Are you gonna sabotage his appearance because he wasn't nice to you? Any contact John has with someone turns into like some favor he did. He's doing a favor, right? Yes.

Chelsea Handler doing a set of comedy for a set price is not a favor it's a job when you got the job on a Howard Stern show that was a favor that how many doing something nice how many times he takes credit for putting Shulies calls through right on Howard Stern and Again, his job. And writing Shuley's material for him too, obviously. So he's obviously still writing for Shuley. Adam, I'm glad you're picking up on what's going on between these two because Peter is kind of in radio still. And Ryan Seacrest is a pretty big deal.

He's syndicated all over the United States. And so John just bringing him up to bash him, you'd be like, all right, this must be like a story. John must have a really specific story about Ryan Seacrest and what a douche he is. If he's gonna bring this up without being asked. So I went back to Ryan and said, Hey, man, you know, you know, I was in radio two, just want to say hi. And I blew me off. He looked at me like I had three heads and just was such like just so conceited That was the story

I'm so glad you shoehorned that into the conversation John a guy didn't treat you the way You wanted him to treat you before his probably first ever appearance on the tonight show Which some people get nerves about and they're maybe looking through their notes, or they're thinking through their stories and talking points. I love that he thinks he's spilling the tea instead of exposing himself for being the insecure douche that he is. Yes, that's how Peter's looking at him,

like, oh yeah, I bet Seacrest was the problem. So this is like John Coy. This is someone figuring out who he is in real time. Right. Love it. But this David Feldman explained on John's show why the dog Triumph was rude to John before the show. The monologue you were about to launch into Carl about maybe Triumph was nervous.

Maybe he was getting ready. Maybe it wasn't, like he got John to see and realize that he was being selfish and wrong and John immediately Once he got to that point said yeah Well fuck that guy anyway, and now has drank himself into a stupor ever since then and is still right back where he started He's learned nothing. There's nothing you can do to help him card if any New updates I see you monitoring Multiple screens over there. Oh yeah, still a black screen.

Okay. Still collecting Super Chats. Oh, good for him. He's earned it. Alright, so then he tells a story about when Gilbert Godfrey and Billy Bob Thornton were both on The Tonight Show and the interaction between them. And Peter sees an opportunity to get some comedy out of this guy. He's got a comedian on his show, it's normally Sports Talk. Let's get some comedy out of this guy. He's got a comedian on his show. It's normally sports talk.

Let's get some comedy out of them. And Billy Bob is is is is complimenting Gilbert, praising him like just, you know, you're the best. And Gilbert is so awkwardly uncomfortable. I'm just laughing because Gilbert can't he's just saying, can you do a Gilbert Gottfried impression? I can't. No, I'm not a big person. He's just saying can you do a Gilbert Gottfried impression? He's trying so hard to turn this into something no Peter is getting his money's worth there is getting he's earning his paycheck. That's a J I should say he's uh really working hard to make

this interesting. John's anecdotes just fall flat every time. Billy Bob Thornton liked Gilbert Gottfried. Cool, I do too. I mean, he could have, even with the Brian Seacrest stuff, he could have gone the route of, you know, the Kardashians, he's involved with them. They, you know, we came up with the idea for that.

Like something can make a connection. No. It's all brags. It's bragging disguised as anecdotes, bragging disguised as jokes. It's just or bashing like someone has to be the asshole that he's better than. And in this instance, it's Gilbert Gottfried. Right. Yeah, he does. He has this tell. It's a transition. He goes, oh, funny thing about that. Whenever he says that he is going to drop a name. He has this tell, it's a transition, he goes, oh, funny thing about that. Whenever he says that, he is going to drop a name, possible three or four different celebrity

names. And it's never a funny thing. It's not a funny thing. It's not going to go anywhere. He just wants to tell you. He ran into Ryan Seacrest once. He was conceited. Well, let's talk about sports. John's a sports fan.

They're at a sports convention. They're on a sports show. So finally they transitioned. Let's get some sports talk going. Maybe John will do a better job with this. I told my friend jigs. I said, listen, they're not going to win until they change this, their helmets and uniforms. And as soon as they did 1997, they won. They did. And now they're bringing it uniforms. And as soon as they did. 1997. They won. They did. And now they're bringing it back.

And every time they wear. They have Jeremy Shocky too? They didn't have Jeremy Shocky. No, no, no, Keeshawn Johnson. Keeshawn Johnson. Who was a Jet. Yes, but I'll tell you. Your buddy there, Shocky, was a giant.

Yes, I know, but I thought he went to Tampa too, no? No, uh-uh. Keeshawn, yes. Jeremy Shocky. No, not Jeremy Shocky, no. No? Oh, for some reason I thought he went to Tampa to know Yeah Tisha, yes, no, no, Jeremy Shockey. No, no Okay, anyway, um, I'm a Yankee fan, okay They're in Tampa this is a Tampa sports show John doesn't know what he's talking about So again, they changed their uniforms and then they wanted something a woman would say about a sports team and then he references Jeremy shock He would ever played for the team. He's like, oh really what are you sure? Hot jerseys who would have

What's uh, okay. Let's talk about the Yankees. They're like Yeah, man, let's talk about the Yankees. It's great. I Love when you tell John something. He doesn't know where he gets wrong. His only response is, I know, I know. Right. You don't know, that's why we're saying it. He wants to argue more, but then he realizes there's two different people telling him that he's wrong, so he's just like, all right, maybe I'm right, maybe I can argue this one.

Agreed in this. Yeah, agreed in this. I'll deal with you later. Pretty much. All right, so he was on a show, Jason Galearn's Divorce Podcast, and this was in 2017. He was on the show.

This just surfaced. Someone posted it on YouTube and Dabbler's picked up on it. And Adam, I know you listened to this. And it starts off, I'm gonna play the first clip I have. Jay, the guy who's interviewing John who has this podcast struggles having this podcast about divorce because he's also a comic I shouldn't say also Jason Galeurne is a comic and he's doing this show about divorce and it's hard to make that funny it's actually quite depressing you know

when that goes away and you can't be with your kids every day okay hold on this is already too fucking depressing for me but I know I know I know listen listen this will also fucking help people thanks John thanks your support of this hey you want to be a guest on my show only if I can call it out look like your format sucks it's not a good show sure all right then come on let's do that There's also something unique going on here and that's that John and Jason Glearn are friends. Yes, their wives know each other They they have a history so they're comfortable with each other and the other thing of note is that John is wasted

But he insisted on getting Jason stoned and Jason is not used to being this stoned while interviewing, and it causes some train wreck moments, but it causes some great moments where Jason won't drop it and insist on getting an answer from John, which we never get, so that's really great. But John is just a super villain through all this. I have one more clip before we get into the stuff that you picked up on.

And John drops the hackiest joke possible. John is just a hack in every way. Can I say your wife's name? Yeah, of course. Okay, cool. Susanna is... Oh, I usually call her witch, but okay. This is depressing, comedy, it's a whole fucking thing.

A mixed bag of fucking... She's not allowed to be near water. Well here's the situation. Well here's the situation. Is that a Wizard of Oz reference? I believe so. Is that a thing that witches aren't supposed to be near water? Is it just Wizard of Oz?

You throw them in water to see if they float or something. Oh there's that, yeah, there's a sound, witch trials. Or is she a gremlin? Near water is it just Wizard of Oz right? The only water you throw them in water to see if they float or something Oh, there's a thing. Yeah, there's a sound which trials, but are she a gremlin. Yeah, something like that She's one of them. That's the worst joke her name is Susanna, right? Yeah, I call her witch Do ya? Okay, good stuff. What went wrong, huh? This era of John is so frustrating. We've been watching it a lot these last few days.

And he needs everyone to laugh along with him. And that's his signal to be like, I told a joke, and now it's your turn to laugh. It's brutal. So, your clip number one here, you want to set it up for us, Adam? Well, it's just, it's five minutes in, and they finally get to the first question

So Johnny, yes, I want to hear about the fucking good times because I've been asked I've even asked this before I started thinking about doing this fucking podcast like you and Susanna everything was okay Was everything amazing? First question is genuinely was there ever a problem when you met Where you thought to yourself initially there's a problem there, but I'm gonna fucking look by it or someone or something I felt deeply incredible. Okay, so tell me all about that those fucking rad times Did he have their first kid out of wedlock and later? Married her and he's acting like they

were always deeply in love and love at first sight and I don't know if that's really true but alright. You're gonna hear this because it's his friend and he's comfortable. He instinctually like a tick has to say no to everything the guy says. And almost everything he says no to he either immediately or shortly thereafter says the opposite which happens in the next clip I should try that technique because on this show we agree with each other way too much. I'm told by Kevin Brennan Well, then write the script differently. I'm just reading what you wrote me I took it to Hawaii cuz I did you met you met how in a we met in Tony's wedding whose

Tony and Tina's wedding. It's an off-broadway show Part days like and the sheer arrogance of like he's like a Tony T's wedding and the guys like oh who got married right? The off-broadway show. Oh, you're not familiar. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm not waiting for good. Oh, he's not a person you Right, so I do not know about Tony and Tina's wedding His wedding is an off-Broadway show. Okay. Oh shit in New York, and we met there and I Doesn't matter what we were playing, but we fell in love. I'd rather meet it Yakov Smirnoff's dinner I'd rather meet it Yakov Smirnoff's dinner

A better story than that. I'm in Branson. She's in Branson. It was unbelievable What a country fried steak And what a cut on this girl And um During the fucking play you were an actor and she was an actress in the play amazing. Yeah, and we fell like deeply in love so There's not one part of me that doesn't or will never not care about her incredible incredible that's even that sounds like there's not one part of me that will never not care about her I'll still care about her more in my little pinky what is he talking

about does that mean I thought she was a witch right yes but back and forth yeah so even though that she turned out to be something different I still love that fucking bitch okay well let me ask you this I'm thinking all these fucking questions now as I forget them you are the worst Let me fucking write this down these questions while I do what you supposed to do Jason I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to know what I'm supposed to do. I don't what I'm supposed to do I don't that's a wretch John telling someone out to interview someone on a show You find out now if he has the authority Did you hear that laugh? Yeah, I could I could picture it. Yeah, you see that in a script and it says like, you know

Evil maniacal laughing like people don't do that. That's not a thing Listen, don't that's That's not normal. No, it's dark. It's a real darkness and once again He just keeps going and saying the opposite of whatever he just said now. He has to explain Oh, yeah, well I did know early on that there were signs that a divorce might be coming when did shit Start initially to go. I don't know if I'm digging our sour sour sour is a great word. I'm running that down go ahead Like earliest, earliest, earliest. You know.

And exactly what was the situation? What happened was I remember once we were in a cab and she was pregnant with our first. Aha. So that's early, bro. And I was, you know, we were together for a year but like I Remember we argued over something so stupid like over a doctor. Okay, but that's a fucking bird abortion That fight different and when how do you know that was the first time that we ever had a fight

That's why oh And then you see like another side and you go oh Interesting they were deeply in love. There was never any doubt It was meant to be and then they got into a fight once he's like, oh look at this bitch I don't know about this one and she was pregnant with a girl and John wanted a boy. What'll did he know? That was going to happen 20 years down the road For you knows it was a fight about something insignificant. I don't know something about a doctor probably the only in

Significant topic there could be would be something involving a doctor I think I have a suspicion as to what that doctor might have advised the Melendez family that John didn't like but I'll let him reveal it himself later on. Okay. Fair enough. And this next one is he explains how it's a delicate transition between moving on from your ex to your future wife and how you have to handle it delicately so all the parties involved are happy right I've had three loves of my life and you know Susanna being the third uh-huh so the girl working on a child nine show at Howard oh wow are you gonna text no no

no I'm writing down the quiz what you're saying for a feature question Because that's a fucking great great question pass love again the fact that John would Actually call someone out for looking at their phone during an interview He's unbelievable this one loves so what I'm saying is but we just weren't right at that time You know and I met Susanna and I love Susanna more holy shit and that's you know and you left her for Susanna yeah holy shit yeah wow that's fucking crazy back she found why is that crazy you know because he's don't marry you so you're dating a girl named Karen And then eventually you guys broke up and you married the woman that I met?

And then you became a Karen? You're all there's that. So he was shocked and he was able to fool more than one woman. He was like you guys met as actors in the same play? That's amazing! That never happened before. Who would want to put their penis inside of a co-worker? the same play. That's amazing. Never heard of that. Never happened before. Who would want to put their penis inside of a coworker?

In fact, she found like Susanna's like, she had like these so white pajama pants. Oh my God. Like in the end, she found them there. She said, who's the bees? Oh, so John was cheating on Karen with Susanna. Okay. Yep. I said my mom's What she say to that Your mom's obese So John jokes about his mom's panties and it's funny but Mike Morris puts a photo of them behind him

It's cause for litigation. I Didn't realize called his mom sad on a podcast. So I guess that's on the table now too. He did just do that, yes. He called her obese, but he think it's grounds for litigation that somebody called his sister, Danny DeVito-like.

And he's repeated that. Yes. Ha, shit. Did she ever want to get married when you were together? Or did you, you didn't? Or how'd that go? Was it ever mentioned? I I

Once did when we played at this club and queen. This is a great story. I pointed this out. I think yesterday on Living in the past that ring John which you can get our patreon or our YouTube channel if you become a member a bonus show We did John tells these anecdotes the anecdote he told on the show that we played yesterday was playing a video game That was at Royce's arcade. Yeah, the guests brought up and John's story was oh, yeah, I used to play that game when I was drunk with my friends Every story has to be like around drinking and being drunk to remind everyone how cool he is I think and I had friends everyone how cool he is I think and I had friends yes so this is another example of that is you know asking if him and Karen ever thought about getting

married club and Queens with my Ben and we were driving home whatever and we had to pull over cuz I had to puke and I told that I loved her that huh no no I mean I told that I want to marry But I mean did you ever talk about that sober? Get married So took you having a drink to the pew to fucking propose look I mean that's what I think there's a billion people who can relate to that. Yeah, well. Unfortunately, they won't be listening to this shit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Married or not married, fuck.

Ha ha ha ha ha. So, do you guys think that actually happened, that John was coming home from a gig with his rock band, and he was so drunk they had to pull over and puke, and then he's like, we should get married, bitch. I don't believe any of that. I think he just wanted to talk about how you explain bands He was cool, and he got really drunk and he'd be vomiting because he'd be so drunk because he's such a cool drinker I

believe that so I Believe he asked her to marry him with vomit on his It does sound likely Actually, it does what's great about that's that little story is that no matter what, whether it's the truth or lie or a combination of both, it's all like the worst thing you could tell. It all makes him look so bad no matter where it came from. He has no idea, but he thinks it makes him look cool. Yup.

Yeah, it's amazing. And that's the alcohol and this immaturity are a theme. It keeps coming up You know you press a little bit and there's always alcohol right below the surface of any of this So now the guy really he's like tell me what the nail in the coffin was and I leave in The guy's rambling question for a reason see if you can pick up on it I want to know when were you like initially like okay? This is too many fights or fuck this or I could see

possibly separating or what the initial part of it was in California no no you know again Jason like every marriage you know you you know you start you know like you get into it and everything's fine you get in a few arguments Whatever, but you still love that person, so I loved her and I still love her But when yeah, we're in California is when While he goes no no I wasn't in California, but actually what happened was when we got to California She just wanted to say no wow it was over You know I mean holy shit, but there were but she did too. I mean there were just a lot of problems

I'm not gonna get into because okay, we bought the crap out of well, that's gonna that's gonna be translate What's happening here? Yeah pizza wasn't as good John gets to California. He's making way more money he's on television and He's making way more money, he's on television, and he has connections, and that's where all the beautiful people move to is California. He went, oh, I could be fucking all of these girls instead of just my wife every night. Again, the pizza.

Same pizza every night. Yeah, it's literally what he's saying right here. Problem for my podcast. Do you think so or not really? No, no, I'm telling you like the whole Denise thing where our best friends are living with me. Yeah, I remember all that This is fascinating right here. Yeah, this gets really interesting. So let's learn about Denise and What Jason knows about Denise because again, these were all friends when John was still married to Susanna and apparently Denise moved in with them.

Started living with me and. Yeah, I remember all that. But that wasn't. No, no, no, Jay. The problem was is that when I knew we were having problems with our relationship, and I said, Denise has gotta go, because Susanna spent a whole lot of her time with her best friend.

I didn't fucking know that you never told me That and I completely I know I understand that and I said, you know, you gotta ask Denise to leave else You know this sink in a while. You never told me that that's crazy. I totally understand it and then she said no Are you fucking kidding me? No, and I asked Denise to leave and she said no. Oh my god So that's when that's fucking you know I never knew that I'm being so Disrespected here. I never Know that's not cool, and it was like no you're being you know so

Disrespect that's not even the therapist agreed with chat out convenient when we went to marriage counseling in the last you know Like few weeks of our marriage whatever even the marriage council said that's wrong was Denise sitting there too no but she said no I mean she's that's fucking crazy I never knew that did you ever know that Kurt if you know everything about centering John that he had a Denise move in with them before they got a divorce that's that's a new story. I Thought so too and I pulled a clip on here that is so telling because you have this guy Jason Who used to hang out with them knew Denise?

Knew Susanna and this was his interpretation of what was happening for the people listening I met Johnny had this fucking assistant, which was amazing. Yeah. Denise! And she used to bring you beers and shit. No, no, she's not, well. Not an assistant, it was fair.

Now I don't like her, but she was nice at the time. But then again, I let her live in my place for free. And then. Do I even need to comment on this? This guy saw Denise as his personal assistant. This was his wife's best friend who moved in because Susanna was bored out of her mind or whatever the situation was. And this guy was hanging out with them and went, Oh, Denise, that was your assistant.

And he's like, Oh no, I mean, I would make her grab me beers and stuff like that but she was living rent-free you know what am I supposed to do gotta take advantage of the situation sounds like Susanna yeah she was the new Susanna until she wasn't does she stop getting his beers well what's interesting is that he used to always brag on the Stern show about how Susanna brought him those beers so now he's like I don't need you Susanna Denise is gonna do it for me And then we get to learn how John feels when that situation gets reversed. It's grounds for divorce Fuck this worst part Jason just that's fucked. I'm gonna be completely candid here, right? We would be on my bed No, you and Susanna only no. No, I would be on my bed in You and Susanna only? No, no. I would be on my bed in

Calabasas and this is in the last place we live and I would hear my kids hanging out with Denise and Susanna like all night while I was working, like watching all the clips I had to do for the tonight. Right. But that's normal. That's all right. All right. Fine. So like Denise became Susanna's emotional target. Like the, you know, so like I was out of the picture. I mean, she didn't care. And God damn it. Being a workaholic is so difficult when you're trying to keep a relationship together. John just needed to work all the time oh I picture him there with a tear rolling down his cheek as he hears the children playing with Denise Susanna it was all about her friend Denise and I asked her to leave like I

said and why did you why did you ask her to leave initially why why do I ask the needs yes yes I knew our marriage was falling apart Okay, as like if she's still here then we're not gonna be able to work on from a man's perspective Hearing your situation putting myself in that situation a thousand percent I mean, maybe do you blame yourself for letting it get that far in the first place instead of a oh What will place instead of a oh what will John say next hey yes I do blame myself B it probably is partly my fault see you got me next lastly oh I thought Cardiff was talking for some reason do you blame yourself for

letting it get that far in the first place instead of aiding so funny I talked to my friend in New York And he said as soon as like Denise was like moving and he goes biggest mistake ever like he knew he didn't tell you That though no he did he said biggest mistake ever cuz now He knows Denise or just as a girl no I know her uh-huh, but not because of our personality It's just you're have a fucking marriage I get it. Oh, yeah, then she's gonna hang out and I'm like the I'm the odd man out I would have told you the same thing before I think but but when you had Denise to me it just seemed fucking cool It seemed like it was she was your sister

She wouldn't leave because wow and you know it's still I just didn't put you into together So goes on to this day because is it possible that John's just blaming Denise for all of this? Because this guy was like no she seemed awesome and she's just like helping out around the house and doing whatever you wanted You know what you asked her to do. He's like no no, no, it was actually terrible. It was so bad He's like, okay. I didn't see that at all Why why do you think that John couldn't go hang out with them? Why did he have to stay in his room? Because of workahol. He just can't live without it. But we know that's not him. You know, he's not driven by that

burning desire to achieve. We played a story on, so I I wasn't on I'm getting my things mixed up They did point devil point that we did living in the past the coke story. He did missing work. Oh, right the time show that was on Living in the past the only time he ever called in the bonus show we did yesterday So just to give you an idea of workaholic John. He tells this story about on a weekday night, picks up this 26 year old hot chick from the bar, brings her back to his place. They're doing blow, he's banging her, then he can't get it up because the blow, he's gonna take Viagra, then they're up till 5 a.m. he's supposed to get to work at 7 he has to call in. I'm so sick! Meanwhile we're supposed to think that this guy wants to be hanging out with his family and his kids

But he's just sitting there watching NFL games waiting for someone to say like Penetration three or four more times we can pull the clip for Jay and they could play it on the show I'm so glad you said NFL games. What does John like to do when he watches sports? Drink beer. Yeah What does he like to do when he podcasts? Drink beer. What does he like to do when he's teaching children in elementary school? Zoom court. I forget what engagement was. I mean, you know, my daughter's like won all these overall achievement awards in June. And you know, we all had a dinner or

something and Denise was there and we were talking like we used to like we were friends Get you to posit his daughter won all these overall achievement awards, right? Wouldn't an overall achievement award be one award? No, it's tons of them And I and so, you know, I've talked to you I say yeah, if you want to come over you next night, whatever Fucking wait that that that's when you first met her and said come over or what? I'm still tell me this is like way After yeah, oh shit Yeah, so what happened yeah, and then you ran into Denise. Yeah, we were hanging out at one of my kids

Successes which as you know right are fucking about Yeah, and what happened yeah, and then you ran into Denise. Yeah, we were hanging out at one of my kids Successes which as you know right are fucking Multitude one of my kids success have a foot tonight, and where do they go this brain power from which one of you of course me? Okay, yeah, but but so Suzanne is there too. Yeah, okay? I just thought you ran in no, but he's talking she said she would hang out I want to talk to me and then the next day she You know what respond to my text. I'm sorry. Are you gonna hang out and then we tried to fuck Denise Oh, yeah, you tried to fuck his ex-wife's best friend and

He's complaining about getting cock-blocked right here, and she just blocked me like wow Because well, she's with Suzanne. She's friends with Suzanne. I know but it's kind of weird Maybe do you think that she was lying to you initially or she was cool and was like I will and then she had a second Thought we're like she can't do that. Well, yeah, cuz I'd like to need shoes. Fuck. Yeah, but exactly what Jason kiss one I mean, so yeah, you know, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna think that she's a friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What is the real story here? Denise moves in and he says she's got to go and Suzanne and he say nope

She's not leaving and then they get divorced and then he's trying to fuck Denise The next time he sees her and his kids thing with Suzanne in there. He's like come back to my place We'll do some blow. I'll almost get it up. I think he was in love with Denise. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why they the marriage ended is because John was caught trying to fuck Denise. He confesses to jerking off to her and thinking about her in this episode. He says he would do that one. Susanna wasn't having sex with him. He would sit there and do that. So there's a lot more going on. So then they get a divorce and Susanna tells her family not to talk to John anymore. We're shutting John out of our lives. Don't talk to him.

But as we know, one of John's best friends, because he listed him, one of the first people he listed when he talked about all his friends that he has his brother-in-law And this is an interesting insight in the way John thinks This is a brother did the same thing to him like, you know, you can't speak to John and you know The whole family, you know, you can't hang out with John and my brother-in-law Much to his you know fucking credit Benefit whatever much was credit whatever he how funny is that my brother not much to his credit no no no much to

his benefit decided to still be my friend even though she's ever told him not to he sees that as a benefit for his brother-in-law being his friend Or he just doesn't want the guy talking to him to be right ever so he's got to be wrong just to correct the guy Is it just and he doesn't have positive words at the ready? You know he's asshole and loser is ready to describe something positive Something it's good point, and it looks like Denise was his booking agent in 2008. Oh, so she did work for him because he kept saying assistant and he's like no no no, my wife's best friend.

So I think she did work for him. An old friend from back home that was Susanna's friend that needed to come out to LA for some reason needed some help and John did one of those. She'll be my assistant. I could use some help. And I bet she helped him for a while, and then as she got personally entangled in their mess and John was on his, you know, downward descent, I think Susanna was like, stay. And I really think she was like, stay because I don't feel safe. I think someone wasn't safe. That's when you move someone in. You're like, okay, if I can't leave, I don't trust you alone with these people. There's a story John told,

you played it on your show a long time ago, where he says there was the last Thanksgiving he had at his house and his in-laws were there and he was giving a speech and his mother-in-law stands up in the middle of the speech and says, you're drunk. And he says this story to be like, what a bitch my mother-in-law is. But anyone who hears that story is like, he must have been wasted. And she's like, what are you doing? It's Thanksgiving, the doctor, all of these things. He wouldn't stop drinking. He's alone in his room drinking. You can be around the kids if you're not drinking. Well, fuck it, I have work to do. So he goes close the door and does his work. Unfortunately, we had to go through all of the legal proceedings when John wasn't

paying child support. And you see in there Susanner talking to the court and saying, John drinks beer every single day and he's smoking weed and you know I'm concerned about him being around the kids and he wants 50-50 custody and I don't want him to have 50-50 custody of the kids. I don't think he's smoking weed and you know I'm concerned about him being around the kids And he wants 50-50 custody, and I don't want him to have a duty custody of the kids I don't think he's trustworthy is and a parent at this point like this was an ongoing issue. You're right Adam For once yeah, I'm not gonna give it to you every time but this time you might be on to something It's just a theory Jason has some great questions of John in this next clip But my question you Johnny is you should probably call it Jesus

This is a very confused podcast, so we're great yeah, but I'm like let me ask you so What percentage do you blame yourself? Why do you blame yourself if you do it all? Those are the same. They learned it and forced me into those showers Great question. What percentage do you blame yourself if you do it all and Yeah, I don't know where John's going with this. He was just taking orders. I guess I don't know what he means by that So He's taking orders, I guess. I don't know what he means by that. So, I'm saying, do you believe, you have to have some, you might, if you go through that, you must, as a human, you must have some.

I took her for granted. You took her for granted, okay, that's pretty fucking broad in many different ways. How specifically, and I think a lot of women hearing this, or not just fucking women, men get taken for granted too. One, would like to hear a person say that, because I think a lot of people do. hearing this or not just fucking women men get taken for granted to one would like to hear a person say that because I think a lot of people do well how did you take specifically because you know I stopped having sex with her but it wasn't

it stopped having sex with her that was a bit of sad day for Susanna. I can only imagine Alright this for you, Susanna. No Dirt it all that's a horrible answer to how did you take her for granted? Let's see if he cracks it again How is that that's not really taking someone for granted? Well, it's just you know, I don't know I took a grant. Well, at least this is what I keep saying so it makes me feel better but I took it for granted because she would do everything for me. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. She's an amazing woman. I mean I didn't let her know. I should appreciate it. Interesting. Interesting. That's fucking very well said.

Yeah. A very drunk John just finally actually came out with the truth that he needs a mom wife, dare I say it, to take care of him. Whether it's Denise or Susanna or his actual mom, he needs that in his life because he cannot control himself at all. Yeah, he said she did everything for me. And I should have appreciated her.

Everything. I didn't realize that having registration in your car would be so difficult to do, but apparently couldn't pull it off without Susanna. It took for granted. It also, it smacks to me of like the one thing they made him acquiesce to in couples therapy. And it was the one thing they made him acquiesce to in couples therapy and it was the one thing they made him say and that he kept like they kept jamming into his head that he kept trying to implement

but he makes it clear he didn't know what it meant he just knew it was like words like i was told to take responsibility so i keep saying i take responsibility and then do nothing about it right he even he mumbled something about that it's what they kept saying it to make her feel better like he doesn't yeah after the sex thing he said well that can it's what they kept saying it to make her feel better. Yeah, after the sex thing, he said, well that can't be what it is. No, and he still hasn't. That was the thing, so he goes with that. And that's all he's got because there's one real reason that he refuses to mention, but thank God this Jason guy is just stoned enough to hammer this home.

I think anyone would like to hear that, and I'm sure Susanna would like to hear that. I've told her. Well, but again, we're like we're so close, but she's got a boyfriend now. Yeah, yeah. Not like we ever want to be back. Let me ask you about that. Like you, I know you and you are have been with many,

many, many women since your divorce. So you hear John brag about bagging checks. I know you and you're always talking about bagging chicks and Does it bother you that she is with another person because I could see that's amazing to me. I don't care Yeah, that's incredible. What an honest answer. I've had it I've had sex with a J. Oh What a gross thing to say it's a body of your ex-wife the mother of your children has found a new love and is happy Already fucked. I'd tap that shit cares What an insulting thing to say doesn't realize it do no because he just he's sorry

He just said um my heart was broken listening to her laugh with the babysitter right it destroyed me Fuck it. I've used tissue up in there And let's not forget that at this time two of his children were adults right and one was rapidly approaching adulthood Smarter than John already at this point. This Oscar's a genius correct One more clip out here the moment of truth This is it you want to set this up Adam that's all you need to know that's as is the theme here You bring people to these moments of actualization and they acknowledge it and they run in the other direction

So listen let me answer this then What would tell me one and I think you've been very honest extremely honest Johnny? Extremely honest and that's what I want to do with you because you're fucking you just put shit out there. So What would one thing? That Susanna would say is great about you and one thing not blaming for the marriage, but one thing that You did besides taking her for granted that should be like that was it this is like inside the actor studio cuz if it is ask me my favorite curse word you're a fucking dickhead that's not how the answer that question would work

John all right yes what's that let's not gonna do that right now okay the one no no like like what just just one thing's not get into that right now. Kind of. No, no, no. Like, like, well, just just one thing. Give me something positive that Susanna would be like, John's amazing at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because you're a great dad. You know what? Honestly, if Susanna, she'll say smart, loving, you're a great dad, too. Great dad. Like she would say.

How could he take her for granted and be loving and caring? It can't be both of those things. And don't get me started on smart. She would not say that all those things You know, there's not I mean the only bad thing she would say is like drink beer too much Killed a bunch one right there. I abused the family alcoholism. Killed a bunch of people and buried them in the yard. That's incredible. Let's hear that again. I mean, the only bad thing she would say is like drink beer too much and alcohol, whatever. I mean, that's probably the...

That's one of the things. I mean, she's very nitpicky when it it comes to my parenting so I guess that's the thing You think maybe that's what the doctor was talking about That many years ago. Do you think that's the theme? I'm sorry. I'm not gonna let it play out No, I think the doctor they're having that argument in the cab about the doctor doctor was like look I know I'm just a doctor, but I think you guys should get a divorce I'm a vet, but you guys shouldn't be together, and I'll keep the dock I actually pulled one more clip that I want to play out here great because you know what who wants to go through life having?

People yeah, that you yeah, I don't want to go through life that way. That's not Son who I am man. I'm not I'm not wired that way I rather everyone love each other have a good fucking time, you know, I know it sounds so cliche and everything But that's I don't know. I don't I don't want to hate anybody and I don't want anyone to hate me. Listen to this Then why does that consistently happen? Then why does that consistently happen? Hahahaha Hahahaha Hahahaha

The look that John must have given him because he's just like Hi man I'm just fucking with ya John did not laugh at all. Yeah I didn't hear the fake laugh I didn't hear the fake laugh at like You want everyone to love everyone then how come everyone hates you? And that was back then And Silas, this is the guy who knows John And knows his friends and hung out with him

And his family I've never seen this guy on any of his shows It's crazy He just said his favorite curse word was you're a fucking dick Peace love and understanding I don't have you know that about me. I got three words for you go fuck yourself We got to find Denise But Denise would be an interesting person to talk to I've already reached out Really?

She has, she does, Carl I'm listening I wish she wrote a book but she does a one woman show Lessons learned, the time of my life She just finished five days in Houston and I'm going she comes to a town near us. She have a YouTube channel She must not she does not one of the few still acting But yeah, because I said so that's why I take a nostalgic journey through decades of wood paneled wisdom in Well, I won't say your name

Lessons learned in the time of my life Wow that's amazing. I'll go to that Trip that's like a Tom Myers title. Yeah lessons learned in the time of my life. Yeah, it's me and Adam are interviewing her tomorrow night You blop Joey C for that can I sit down? All of John's Achievements or things he wants to do or things he stole from other people of course Denise has a one-woman show Good point. Yes, we learned it from Guys, we have two minutes with Tom coming up in just a moment with our review girls are gonna get involved in this very excited I want to welcome review girl Annie is here with us up Annie

Oh, hello And also Megan is making her return to the show. What's up, Megan? Not much just watching the Mets win. Oh, I'm like the Cubs today. Oh shit. I didn't watch the Cubs today today They lost the series, huh? Yeah, they lost in the 11th The other night. I'm sorry. It's very disappointing Chris if you must know Well, congrats to your mats very happy for you

Alright, let's Check out what's going on Megan has not won this game yet You're due for a victory Shit what is that? I'm of course a pro let me see it's not Annie it might be Megan it's definitely Megan is there someone sighing next to you? The host? No. I think I have, I might have the TV on. There's rotisserie next to it.

I'm going to mute you for a second, but you'll be able to hear and everything. All right. This is the one. This is it. Five players. Come on. We're going to crush card if I this one it's time for one's favorite you new game show what do you say ladies and gentlemen and Adam Bush

are you ready to find the bomb playing two minutes with This is how you know he's watched this before and look, I'll be honest, I mean, I've seen these clips, like I went ahead and compiled them just to make them listenable so I'd have to keep scrolling through all of them. But it's like he acts like he's seeing this for the first time. And like I watched him, I saw him respond to it on social media in real time. So it was, yeah, this is an act, bud. Toe, you know you love covering me. You know you love it. You know you love going into this rabbit hole that is me. You tell a shitty bong hit transplant joke for seventh graders.

What did Tom say next? Here are your choices. Number one, it wasn't a shitty joke. B, I never performed for seventh graders Next at least I was never a cuck For what jokes have you done then lastly I Don't even do that joke anymore I don't even do that joke anymore

Two minutes This game is so hard. I mean it really could be any of these I'm gonna go with I was gonna go I'm gonna go lastly I don't do that joke anymore because I know that Tom does say that as if it's some kind of Positive thing like yeah, I know I used to suck as a comic I still do too but Adam what do you think? I think this is really brilliant it really is every one of these could be it and that's the point so very well illustrated here it's uh we get it I'm amazing yes this time this time in particular potato washing your tongue over there.

I'll go with the next. I was never a cuck. It was never a cuck says Adam. Uh, and uh, Annie, what do you think? I also think I was never a cuck I also would I was never a cuck Megan, what do you got? I feel like it would be something really dumb. So I'm gonna go with four What jokes have you done? Yeah, I can see that. What jokes have you done? I have a question. Are you sure you're using the mic- right microphone? You might be Using your computer. I got a new headset. I have a new headset. So I don't know if it's working or not

From 5 below. Do you guys want to take this backstage or do you want to maybe work on this later? Oh stop it Anna. We're troubleshooting on the fly over here I'm gonna win a game here Producer Chris, what say you I'm afraid I also went with lastly so we didn't get the spread. No, we did not all right, so You and I have lastly. Mm-hmm. And then I was never a cock is Adam and Annie, that's Annie Annie and Megan picked for Four okay, so it can't be one or B

Then the steel potato will win. I want to give some background on this clip. Okay only because when I initially pulled this clip I Had pulled something way farther down in the clip like probably a minute and a half later and I had pulled something way farther down in the clip like probably a minute and a half later And I started early and i'm like, wait a second. There's a better one in here. So saturday, you'll see the rest of the clip You'll get the second one on saturday. It's exciting. All right, yeah, but There you go. This one came at me, uh very last Toe You know, you love covering me. You know you love it.

You know you love going into this rabbit hole that is me. You tell a shitty bong hit transplant joke for seventh graders. I never performed for seventh graders yeah kept talking about the Warren Commission oh god where's Lee Harvey when you need them whoa go off toe damn George Karl that's all for this time all right all I have to say about that is Kind of a great fucking line Congratulations, they're for for seventh graders. What an idiot. It's a dumbest thing you could have said Should have known we're I almost put I'm rubber your glue in there

Right. It would also I would have bought that rubber your glue in there right it would have also I would have bought that we set this up earlier with the Tom Myers bit where his only transformative content was to correct the city and state delineation of New York yeah so I never performed for seventh graders therefore this is all null and void this episode has been brought to you by patreon.com slash Cardiff Electric and the new Cardiff Electric YouTube channel. Subscribe today at Cardiff Elect. Sit Eugene, sit.

Good dog. So Cardiff, I know you do a good job of covering one Ched Zumach. Who? What's your take on him getting his monetization back? So card if I know you do a good job of covering one ched zoom ock whoo What's your take on him getting his monetization back? Was it all fake all along? Was this all work? I I I Have a strong feeling it was because we saw the messages that members got and again We didn't see 1100 messages Chad we saw five or six people that posted clips saying your membership has been paused

So it's very very Under the system and pausing himself. Yeah, there's a chance again. He did he's not a good enough actor He really was freaking out about losing his monetization. I I don't think that was fake No, but I almost think that there was a we we're pausing everything while we look into this, like that was part of the message he got. But again, he had to make it look like the world was on fire. He had to get into bed with Melton. You know, he had to let Melton remote into his computer. Evil, evil Patrick Melton.

What did you think about, what do you think about him turning on Melton right after that? After everything that Patrick did for him Yeah, everyone saw that okay. I was obvious Alright I think we I'm just upset we're not gonna see the 89 different voices that he was planning for his super tip system Well, he's still working on super tip, isn't he? Yeah, but he's not getting any more voices. He could if he wanted to. No, no, no, no, no, he's been cut off.

He only has three voices now. Right. Okay. Anyway. It's the mean things. We've done it all today. We've got maybe some reviews of voicemails coming up, but first, everyone's favorite part of the show. The Teaser.

The Teaser. The Teaser. Next week's Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. Next week's Teaser. The Teaser. The Teaser. Next week's Teaser. teaser, next week's teaser, the teaser. Something that will be interesting for us, something different. And if you send in the best suggestion, you can win that ticket to our Boston show on June 21st. Just let us know that you're looking for that.

I thought you were going to say whoever can disconnect Huzy's internet before Saturday wins the ticket. No, I like Huzy. I're excited to have him on the show Think it'll be good. Just send him a ticket to any kind of music festival happening anywhere in Ireland That's true. And you'll blow me off. Yes, correct if he's got a Pocket a bag full of powder and a music festival to go to there's no way he's gonna show up for WATP It can be a cover band whatever whatever. Stiff ministers in town.

Yeah, you wish. Annie, you, Megan, do we have any reviews to read? I have one. All right, let's hear it. It says boring, unfunny and mean-spirited from Tokio Sarahed to 10 minutes of the latest podcast episode and had to turn it off first They're expressing in comprehension at people making 9-eleven jokes, and then they're making essay jokes Obviously only they can pick what's funny Reviled tone deaf and pointless and not at all what I had imagined from the way Adam Bush described on the rewatcher. Well, that's retarded I think Mary Beth read that hard on Saturday. I think it's a one-star review Yeah

Yeah, nothing Yeah, I've been haunted up by that one since last week did which episode is is she talking about? Have you been on the rewatcher? No, not the rewatcher. I mean like which w ATP she talking about where there was 9-eleven jokes and essay jokes I don't remember. I don't know all the time. No, I think it was last. Oh, it was when June 14 was in actually Yeah, Saturday shows All right, just listen to the midweek shows Wednesdays I can't be held accountable if you can't get the day straight. You jokes are Wednesday nights, right? You joke Wednesdays

It's like You know Joey see oh when you're talking to Joey see tomorrow. Do you know who is decided? Who's his new lineup and programming? I'm talking to Joey C tomorrow. Do you know who is decided who's his new lineup and programming? Will be for his channel is it AI it is uncle Bob Yeah, his AI Producer who has been added to the super tip voices has he? Have you heard the new the first question that Joey C is gonna hit you with Adam book

Is it who are you and where you going you know what I'll let you yeah what am I walking into over there Cardiff I can't wait I'll be watching Megan do you want to try to stump us with with a review on there yes I'll do a short one sounds. So this one is the hate you give Talking bad about other people's show will never make you more popular Always remember Porsche ain't worried about Toyota and Toyota ain't worried about Kia Sadly your show will always be Ford Good American made on I think that's a one-star but I want to be optimistic. I think it's a five-star review that we got

Now you were right the first time. It was a one. Boo. It was from the heart. We've gotten pretty popular being jerks. So I'm sticking with it. That's my stance. But even she agrees it's okay when it happens to Chad Zooman. All right, let's hear some voicemails then we'll get out of here. Hey, Carl, you said usually daylight savings time. It's half the year.

It's 50% of the time. Sorry to let you know. Wrong. It's's usually daylight savings time. It's past the year. It's 50% of the time. Sorry to let you know. Wrong! It is usually daylight savings time. 65% of the year. I looked it up. Because they moved the dates.

Oh. Remember? Because people were complaining instead of just getting rid of it. They just moved the dates. But yes, 65% of the year is daylight savings time. So when people say EST PST, they're usually wrong. Take that. All right. I just have a message for Opie. I'm listening to old stuff, listening to

old segments. He can be entertaining. He is. Stop with the get parts. Get back with Anthony when you've passed it. When you have other people who are conversationalists, you can put on an entertaining radio show. You're not this. You're not this, Greg. Go back. It was entertaining. We liked it. Even I wanted to pick it apart. I couldn't. I liked it. That's why I'm listening to old segments. Come on, Ope.

So this guy goes, Ope can be really good when he surrounds himself with talent and gets out of the way. Yes. All of us could do that. Yeah, right. We all know Ope is listening, but I doubt he's making it all the way to the voicemail segment. Yeah. Are you supposed to forward that voicemail onto him or something? I just assume it'll get to his people somehow, someway. It's not really my problem anymore. Here's a fun observation about Frenchie.

Oh, wait, you're telling me Frenchie Hana is trans? A woman this retarded used to be a man? This might be the best passing trans woman in existence! Annie's agreeing. I see some mad nodding from Annie. I want to go on her show so bad. Oh, you'd be awesome on that show. She'd be so confused by you and everything else all the time. All right. Here's a question about my caffeine intake. Hey, Carl. This is Kevin from California. Just had a question for you. I noticed on one or two of the more recent episodes you've mentioned from time to time, trying to not drink caffeine anymore.

I was thinking about doing that myself, but I was kind of curious why you made that decision, and if you noticed any benefits to stop with caffeine. Realized this isn't really related to the show in any way, and it's somewhat of a personal question, but I don't know, just thought I'd ask anyway. Anyhow, thanks very much. Love the show, been a listener since the double digit

episode days, and it's pretty much a staple of my week. So best of luck to you and the boy. Well, thank you, sir. That would explain why you would ask me such a ridiculous question, because I have not authority on any of these things. But, go go ahead Eddie. I want to play the dick shows game fat or jerking off

High blood pressure is the answer why cut out caffeine and surprisingly easy I Talked to people or to get headaches and have a really hard time Wasn't difficult at all banana bag I do I haven't had a banana bag in a long time, but I do have my banana bag sitting next to me right here It's empty. I took them all what? You fuckheads don't realize That even if they rename that stupid Navy ship something other than Harvey Milk. Guess fucking what?

It's still going to be full of semen. Pretty good joke. I don't think we were talking about that on this show, but I'll take it. So I understand why you have certain lines with jokes, because you remember simpler, more innocent times. But the worst thing you'd see on the news is hijacked jetliners flying into buildings. It wasn't great. Be honest with you.

That's more of a Saturday show message. If you could just. Sure. Yeah. That's more of a Saturday show message if you could just sure yeah Girl hey Everyone in the devil verse is very excited for Tuesday July 1st The most popular show on the channel who are these broadcasters? episode 100

And word on the street is that you're planning on throwing a banquet for all the fans with chicken and beer and a raffle, lots of prizes, funny hats. I believe Adam Bush is coming to the event, so please share with us all the details of the festivities. Some of us are celebrating, literally out of my intelligence. Promo code bears. Free beer and chicken. Isn't that the show that Eric Zane used to be on?

Is that the reference there? I believe so. WATB episode 100, July 1st. Tune in for it. It's going to be a wild celebration. They did have Vinnie Paulino on the show today. They had a special day today for who are these broadcasters Christian Blatt is here promo code bear always promo code bears

When it comes to who are these broadcasters all right last voice balance a good one Hey Carl with the whole abortion guy thing I wanted to give you something in case you want to use it or not All right here we go Are you an abortion guy? Oh, I was an abortion guy. Pretty close. Alright, take two. Are you an abortion guy? Oh, I was an abortion guy.

Alright, there you go. I wish you were an abortion, comma, guy. I see what you did there. Rocko Orbeez doesn't do says, this show is the Saturn of the Devilverse. That's how you do a car joke No, they're supposed to be much longer much more convoluted terrible terrible cars I thank you so much Annie people should go check you out at insanity.com Absolutely as soon as I rebuild my computer. I'm having so many tech issues lately

It's like I was hit with doom's curse, and I don't know what I did to piss her off so I'm sorry doom Sorry to hear that Megan can help you out Yeah, Megan Megan's got it all figured out over there Megan anything you're plugging anything I can help you Make anything you're plugging anything you're from no just uh, I'm checking out the NBA finals after the Mets game So who do you like in it?

I'm rooting for the Pacers. Okay, so I don't know if they're gonna win But that game one was exciting the way they came back at the very end What is it was I love watching sports when I'm not watching podcasts so same here the NHL is also getting very exciting with that five on five fight that happened at the end of game three Blowout victory. Yeah, go oilers. I'm with you on that Now the card was in Canada card if anything else you want to promote my friend any shows coming up Kurt, if anything else you want to promote my friend? You got any shows coming up?

WATB episode 100 coming up July the 1st ladies and gentlemen check it out. Very exciting Adam Bush. Let's try to make a new YouTube. That's it You should subscribe to Carlos YouTube. I'm a new subscriber to that YouTube channel, and I am wildly satisfied so far It is outstanding Sunflower dragon, that's not me. I would be on Joey C's show tomorrow at 6pm Eastern Time, live on Catalano TV. Please join us as we have a very serious and measured discussion. Boston, WTBlive.com June 21st, we'll all be there. Well, most of us will all be there. West Magna Hook ride with

Adam or Dick Masterson might be tough for her to get there, but most of us will be there. And we're looking forward to that. Still available. There's a few tickets. Get on there, sell it out so that we can brag. And producer Chris is getting fussy. shut up. I gotta go. Bye. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go Go fuck yourselves I gotta go. Bye. I gotta go Okay, folks guess what? I gotta go. Okay, folks! Guess what?

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