Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep631 - Stuttering John is Back!

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

This is a jam packed episode starting with Stuttering John’s most recent appearance. Stuttering John was performing a standup show on a Tuesday night in Naples. Thankfully for us, he went on Gulf Coast News on ABC7 to promote the gig. The female anchor was nice to him at first but by the end she couldn't wait to make him leave! Adam Busch is on with us as we discuss John name dropping Ozzy out of nowhere. Ken Tamplin performing live is more cringe than I expected. Steel Toe might be in a lot more trouble than he thought but his mommy is coming to the rescue. Adam sat down with Joey C. for a four hour long interview and in a rare occurrence, the interviewer breaks down crying. Brendan Schaub misses LA so much he’s heartbroken, but he’s found a new reason to live. Opie continues to abuse Ron the Waiter but for the first time Ron actually adds something to the show that’s interesting. Our review girls Megan and Annie join us to play another round of 2 Minutes with Tom, read some recent reviews, and listen to your voicemails.  Tickets on sale now for Boston on June 21st – http://watplive.com/ Tickets on sale for the Magic Bag on September 12th – https://www.themagicbag.com/concerts-magicbag/who-are-these-podcasts-hide-september-15-2023-hide Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Adam’s new project – Jamie Levine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dNEZSherbA Annie’s website – https://www.insanneity.com/ Watch the episode here: https://youtube.com/live/nCBvwpOLyUI  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah bullied cuz she was a redhead and skinny, right? Shut up. The trucker Andy was breaking this down for me at our traditional Friday lunch and It was hilarious. He said there's tons tons of shit missing from this documentary Oh, of course because she's the one who created it. Yeah, right So it's like victim first and then some other stuff happened Oh, and so I watched her podcast where she explained how it all happened and not to get too in the weeds But check out drew Lane show check my segment on there And like I said if you're on our patreon you get this stuff beamed to your smartphone every Tuesday night I put up the the

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It could have been a real thing that she could have shed some light on and instead I think it was exactly like you described the director looked at this thing and went I don't have a movie like girl starts podcast super successful like I need some drama I need something and I think they found a real serious event in her life and blew it up to the point of like Star Wars where it was just this cinematic like huge event that Really the tone of it undermined at anybody who's actually gone through stuff like that and made it feel real silly Yes, and there's a lot more to it as well like 99 other soccer players who played for this coach Came out and put together a written statement saying that this is not the case at all or

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Today so much to talk about we'll be checking in on Ken Tamplin. Hey, Tom Myers leaving comments under our video clowning him. Steel Toes Mommy wrote a note to the judge explaining how great her little boy has become. Joey C interviewed Adam Bush for almost four hours and we're going to watch every second of it. The whole thing. Texas is getting worse for Brendan Schaub. Opie has finally asked a question by Ron the waiter we actually are interested in hearing the answer of. Stuttering John was on the Mike Kelta program on Tuesday morning. Also we have review girls coming in for another round of Two Minutes with Tom.

But first, Stuttering John actually made two appearances this week and one of them was on TV on Gulf Coast News ABC 7 in Naples. Have you seen this yet Adam? I've seen some of it yes. This is very exciting I always like when John's being interviewed to promote a stand-up gig because he feels like he has to be on he has to be funny but he also is always flirting with any female that's on set he's always being very flirtatious and we could all draw our own conclusions whether that's part set. He's always being very flirtatious and we can all draw our own conclusions whether that's part of an act that he does.

Are you not buying that is what you're saying, Chris? He just sprays it anywhere and wants to see what happens. Well, the way that this appearance starts, it's a five minute appearance on a morning news, local morning news show where they're just filling time You know, they're talking about weather and traffic and what schools are open, you know, whatever it is, who knows so they bring him on in their what to do segment and He is already cracking up

That's extremely unprofessional. This is a man who went to NYU, didn't graduate, but went to NYU, talks about TV and film and should have media training at this point. And the segment starts and he's dying laughing. He's so far behind the times he doesn't realize that this is a meme, this is a joke that's already been played to death, the fake laughing as we come back from commercial break. It's so known that the hosts are not joining him. Right. He's this, he looks like a like a salamander just with his mouth open cracking up by himself. The male host is very

professional because he's hearing the countdown in five Four three, it's just like what are we doing? We're still cracking up over here you idiot Yeah, what an amazing anecdote now you tell one have you ever never come back at the Tonight Show and they Jayledo's just cracking up over something that we don't know about Just a minute guys. I'm sorry. This is someone me this really funny anecdote. I'll be right with you. I think it's the movie Anchorman where they're like, we're having fun, we're having a good time, we're good friends, we like each other, and then they go back. That's what he thinks this is. No, they're actually just doing their job, John.

What did you say he looked like, Adam? Adam's kind of like a lizard thing. Like, you know, his mouth is frozen open. I'm glad you I'm glad you brought that up because yes I did zoom in and slow it down. Let's see what this looks like. Oh thank God. Thank God very good That's the kind of laugh that only comes out when John's cracking himself up. I guarantee he said something that he really tickled him. Well if you're watching, check out the posture afterwards. He's so insecure he's like this. Yes.

Oh yeah, his posture is awful. He lives in Florida so his nice clothes should be with him. It's not like he had a pack button-up shirt for television on this one. All right, so John has bought a boat as he keeps telling everyone who will listen. Has he? No, but he keeps telling people he has.

And so he wants to brag about that. John Melendez. Hello, everybody. Hello. Hello. Welcome to the neighborhood. Yeah. You Melendez. Hello everybody. Hello. Welcome to the neighborhood. Yeah. You moved here, I'm so psyched. I just moved here, I got here in July and I'm loving it.

You know, I just bought a boat and as you know, we were just talking about, it's so cool that when you're on your boat cruising and the dolphins are just jumping right behind you, it's just amazing. Oh man, this die job. Yeah, what's going on there? You really shoulda got a glaze

before these TV appearances. Old man John over here, not looking great. So they go, how do you like it here in Florida? You're living down here now, right? How do you like it? And he goes to a thing that just happened to him. I was on a boat and there were dolphins that we saw It's like if he was enjoying his time in Florida that would not be his first response to that, right?

He got there in July so 11 months, and that's the freshest thing. That's the only thing he could think of that makes a good living in Florida that's what you'd see on the postcard for someone visiting there. That's all he knows about it Yeah, that'd be like your vacation highlight. Oh my gosh dolphins were jumping I got a video of it cool, but you like living Show hit us with some commentary buddy. Yeah All right, so then They're talking about his career and they're going through all the highlights man. You're on the Howard Stern show you were on the Tonight Show It's pretty impressive. And so he follows this up with a question. And I was watching

this on the Uncle Rico show last night. Anthony Kumia was on, they were watching this and they had the bingo cards out. And they had all the different, you know, what are John's canned answers? What's he going to say? I don't even think they had this on their bingo cards because they were not expecting it to go in this direction. Did you mean for this to happen or did you just kind of like keep going and you know, I was in first grade I was I was a star of our play and always in all district band and all district chorus and always Like the battle of bands in high school It's unbelievable our sorry our play in the in the first grade our play. I was a writer It's the play in the play

Could you imagine I I would think Adam you probably started acting at a pretty early age We saw you on television in an early age, but I'm oh on our show on our TV show So I assume that you did some acting in elementary school probably I did at what point Do you stop using that as a credit? I can't remember. I can't remember. I know I did something I know we I know it was something. I don't remember what it was, but I'm sure I stole it It was brilliant and the reason I'm here now. It's a mind-boggling That's where John's so did you plan this whole career out the way that it's played out Well, it's funny. That's that in first grade and then in second grade

It is just dawning on me now that he actually thinks the further you go back the more impressive it is He does yeah, cuz he used to be fourth grade. Yeah, now it's first now. It's first grade Of course cuz what he wants to say he wants to grab her by the lapels and go it was destiny I was born like this That's what he's trying to say I have no control over this talent ever since I was born just the they throw these roles and things at me I've never heard another person who's successful in life ever refer to first grade not even once went alone every time even a first grade teacher I

Mean people with Broadway shows on right now don't call it our play. It's just not what you say. Yeah, it's just so obnoxious that I would even, you'd say in the high school play, in our high school, it's been a long time, John, that most of those we are dead. Hold on, hold on. Adam, would they have sold as many tickets if you didn't say starring John Melendez on the plane Well, they heard about his performance as the little seed character a year earlier He developed a following that's not his fault Alright, so this this guy the anchor on the show likes Howard Stern

And so he's like, oh, it's so cool that you got to work for Howard Stern So John has to now pivot from his normal Howard bashing And talk about like oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm Howard and I are cool. Yeah, how are you know? I he was a very close friend. I mean I was in his inner circle. Like I would have dinner with Ozzy Osbourne You know everything else but Everything else Why did Ozzy Osbourne get brought up? He brings up Howard's stories like I was in his inner circle, which is something that

you talk about if you're in the mafia or if you're in high school. I don't get this whole I was in the inner circle like it's fine man. You worked on the show together. I'm sure you guys spent some time outside of the radio studio But now he immediately goes to you. Oh man me and him were such close friends We had dinner with Ozzy Osbourne in the same sentence And by the way, he's on with Mike Kelter the same morning Ozzy gets brought up there too without being asked It's not like my good Kelter's like you ever meet Ozzy or have dinner with them. No, that wasn't the question

So John Ozzy go tell you ever meet Ozzy or have dinner with them. No, that wasn't the question John Ozzy go Tell us more about Ozzy Osbourne. It is very rare that he brings up a memory That isn't currently a clip on YouTube, right? And the stuff on YouTube is like 10% Oh, that's interesting He's going back and rewatching it and that's what's giving him.'s all his god is this stuff. He's watched nothing else comes up Yeah, that's why like he repeats his own lies and they become the truth Because that's what he's bringing in for his intake of media as him lying. He's like, oh, I keep hearing this thing I guess Carl posted my audiobook It happens when you when you're in entertainment that you get like a really cool night out with someone you get to spend the day

With Bill Murray or you spend some fent it doesn't mean you're in their inner circle. It doesn't mean you're best friends It mean you had you had an incredible night with them. You got to know them a little bit. Please tell skinny Chad that I'm kidding. I will tell skinny that we accept him and we love him and support him. That's all I'm gonna say mm-hmm This is he just it sounds like somebody stretching It sounds like a kid who had a good date claiming there his girlfriend now and everybody can see that but him So you're saying he sounds like he did after the Kate Meady date. I Mean, that's what you just described. I'm pretty much. Yeah Stretch we spent a night in a room.

We're married, right? Howard hung out with him a couple of times because he was an employee and somebody told him you should do that for morale, so he did it. He regretted it, and now they're in an inner circle together. Yes. All right. And, well, whatever.

Doesn't matter. Okay, so the anchor then brings up, I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. Or maybe he was just talking more about, like, And whatever, it doesn't matter. Okay, so the anchor then brings up I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. Or maybe he was just talking more about like, what was the thing that broke your career or got you over the hump? And so John's talking about I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. And I just realized this while I was prepping

for the show today, this is the greatest thing in the world for John, because it has the word celebrity in it. He brings it up all the time. While I was on, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. It's like, well, celebrity in it. He brings up all the time while I was on I'm a celebrity get me out of here. So there's proof he's a celebrity. He's got a show called I'm a celebrity. And so they're talking about that many talks about going on

this night show. The night show saw that and they said you know like you know it's how was the guest I was my dream. Oh yeah, I'd like to be a guest on the night show the Johnny Carson tonight. Yeah, I mean it was my dream. Oh, yeah and like to be a guest of the night So the Johnny Carson tonight. Yeah, I mean it was my dream So that was unbelievable and I wrote the jokes on the plane coming back from Australia and in the town car And then it's that it's an Eminem song I just lost myself in the moment and I had Jay laughing and then the commercial break. Yep

He wrote the jokes on the plane from Australia, but that wasn't enough time Yeah, I'll celebrate a few more jokes to the town car. What kind of car? Oh, a town car. OK, cool. Oh, yeah. Good point. He had to throw that in there because he was going to the Tonight Show. Didn't mention what kind of boat it was, but we know it's a town car. He goes, my life's dream was to be on The Tonight Show. In what capacity? Were you promoting a film

that you've acted in or maybe one you've directed or created? Are you a comedian? You do a standup set on The Tonight Show? Like what capacity was it? Oh, well that didn't matter. And the real reason why I was on there is because I was on a game show that was meant to humiliate the contestants. He left that out. He left that part out. Because when we went through his book, everything he ever did, he's like, that was a dream of mine. Becoming a boxer was a dream of his. I'm like, almost everything he's ever accomplished, he claimed like creating a movie

and selling to national lampoons. Becoming a father. Was a dream of his since he was a child apparently. Yes, being estranged from children. Everything. I always wanted that. I dreamed of him. But it doesn't make any sense to just be a guest on the...

I always wanted to be interviewed by a talk show host. Well, you tapped into the tragic flaw of John, is that he thinks he's a celebrity. And he always wanted to be a celebrity. He didn't care how, as long as they treat him with respect. That's what he wanted more than anything. So that's all he talks about. And he doesn't realize that these people he's talking to wanted to be newscasters or

broadcasters. So they've done a couple interviews. They know what you're talking about. You can relate to them as people instead of as you're like, you're this better, you know, you're this elder statesman telling them what showbiz is like. They know and they have one up, you're this elder statesman telling them what showbiz is like. They know, and they have one up on you because they have a skill that they can currently capitalize on. Yeah, current gig, right, yes.

Yeah, they would love to talk about it as a broadcaster, as like you said, as a comedian, instead he's hitting it as a celebrity with this assumption that everyone on the planet is just in awe and in love with that by nature, and that's not true. And then he cracks himself up with a line. That's not even meant to be funny I don't think and I'm the first stubborn announcer ever Was she fucking with him you sound great

You smell terrible, but. Do you imagine what it smells like when he does that laugh? Oh. Someone should animate that. He could get two people hammered with that laugh. It sounds like when you're on the spaceship and the airlock goes off and it's like, p just tell a joke somewhere. I think I'm hearing something Alright, so we finally you know, I've been wondering why John's doing this comedy show

We did it last night a guy reached out to me. He was gonna go I don't know what happened with that, but hopefully we'll get a report at some point but he did a stand-up show last night at this comedy club and We find out why it was a Tuesday night and a one-off show. Captain Bryan at Off the Hook, I've been asking him and asking him any questions. He said, all right, let's do it. And I appreciated someone would be at Off the Hook Comedy Club in Naples at 7 o'clock tonight. So John had to wear him down to get a Tuesday.

I've been bugging him and bugging him. And finally, he said, sometimes John says the quiet parts out loud. Yep. I love that. He's proud of his effort. He doesn't realize Everyone who plays that club goes to meet these two people they promote it here. It's a deal They've done this interview a million times So yeah, even they're surprised that you're doing a lone Tuesday night the segment isn't called the main event It's called the things to do

So John Also doesn't realize that most people booked at comedy clubs have a manager Book these things for them. Hey, you don't have to wear anyone down yourself. Yeah, I am representing mr. John house Tuesday This is John Moore Oh, this is John Moore John is always trying to fuck every woman he talks to at all times and Jen here is no exception I can't wait. Are you gonna come come on Jen? Wow. I can't tonight. I've got to be here at 3 in the morning tomorrow Oh, yeah. Oh, tell me about it. Oh, you know morning show. Yeah, I used to get up at 320

Yeah, that's later than when she has to be there So whatever your your one up and it's not working. How many years ago John when you were an intern? How many years ago? Yes, we're talking about the late 80s. Mm-hmm. And so she's talking about today So John's going hey, you're gonna come to my show tonight. She's like, well. No I have to work and tomorrow like even if I didn't It's like do you think Tuesday night comics get laid no Friday night comics get laid Saturday night comics get laid not Tuesday night comics I just John is always so desperate like you got to come out to my show He thinks he's gonna be like at his best performing on stage, and she won't have any choice God this guy won me over.

I thought he was disgusting drunk. This is a perfect example of why you can't be nice to certain people. Doing what you think is a favor for them never helps in the long run. I remember him breaking down that guy at the potato bar, the radio show. The man with one leg, he was a fascinating character and John just bombed, he couldn't stop bombing and he wouldn't let it go, come to my show, come to my show, come to my show. The guy went to his show. He did. He did and he did like five minutes of stand-up beforehand, like he wore him down, he guilted him, he got him to go. So because

of that, he's never gonna stop You know he's gonna ask everyone in every interview and never stop because it worked once I wonder how many people were in attendance at that show last night. I'll be very curious to know I'm sure As there's no potatoes there. It's just comedy. I didn't get to go to Dab was not amiss today. I was very busy with everything that's going on one more clip from this and you can see that Jen is I was very busy with everything that's going on one more clip from this and you can see that Jen is Done with this interview and done with John she was trying to play along and be fun and he got creepy and

So she's like, all right We are running out of time but there are tickets available you're there tonight Yeah, just tonight just tonight off the comedy club in NAPples. It'll be the first of many I have a yes She's like okay, we're out of time, but you got a show or something. We're promoting right can we get to the next segment now? Cuz I have work to do She's fucking with them. Yeah It says right there one gig Tuesday. They didn't forget another gig. Like she knows. She's twisting that just a little bit. Yeah, she goes, there's tickets available, right? Oh yeah, tickets available, yeah.

That is funny. All right, it is time for our. Cringe of the week, cringe of the week. This one comes in from Derek. And do you remember our buddy Ken Tamplin, who is a vocal coach, who taught everyone, like, you don't have to find a singer for your band. You could be the singer.

Anyone could be the singer. I taught myself, I was a shredding guitarist. I taught myself how to be this amazing singer. And all you gotta do is give me money every month and I'll teach you how to become an amazing singer. And then people started realizing that he was pitch correcting his live performances because he wasn't hitting the notes. And he was using, well, actually not even pitch correcting, he was lip correcting his live performances because he wasn't hitting the notes

and he was using, well, actually not even pitch correcting, he was lip syncing. Yeah, right. He was lip syncing to his own live performances. Well, Derek sent this in because apparently he did this live show just recently and he put it out on his main YouTube channel. Normally this is just for the members

to see these kinds of things. But there is a portion from before this that's just for the members that we'll talk about. But this is interesting because Ken comes up on stage to, he's got this all-star band, one of the guitars from Whitesnake is in it. Don't ask, this whole thing going on. And so he comes up on stage for the 30 people in attendance

And this is a weird way to start a live performance in my opinion So I want to thank everyone for coming out We did a almost a four-hour master class workshop today So we're all Whoo between coming here one day before being jet-lagged we're gonna give it all we got But we did sing for almost five hours today already Never do that Adam. I know you perform bad. Do you ever start with excuses before even hit a note? It's a rule. We're exhausted and don't want to be here right now, and I'm thinking about a million other things

I'd rather be doing so We'll see what there is no job where you're allowed to do that and people go okay. Give him a pass We do your job. We all get it. Don't open with that. It's a thing to say so go ahead and suck And we're gonna throw down a little bit more for you guys, so Gotta go Down from 1098 with me All right, we're gonna see here for some reason Ken Tamplin, and by the way that woman who's on the stage was a student that he elevated into his band, I wonder why.

Go figure. It's great they interview her and she says something like, after 10 years I'm starting to get the hang of it. She still hasn't figured out. I watched a lot of this, we're not gonna show it on here, she's terrible. She's great, she's great. She's fine So they decide they're gonna count down Ten to one in German, okay, and you tell, 6, 7, 6, 5, 6, 7, 2, 1. That's a Rammstein song.

Let's do this. He counted to 8, which is like what you'd count in for a dance number, to count down from 10 in German so that now they can count in a song. He's so awkward, this outfit he's wearing, his shirt keeps creeping up, it's got a little bit of a belly, his shirt keeps creeping up, he has to keep pulling it down. It's very funny. Can we just go back to that first moment?

I'm sorry, you said it, even the drummer was like, why are you letting them set the tempo? I'm about, what are you doing? Four of those German words were, oh, he didn't know what they were. Just because I'm behind plexiglass doesn't mean I'm not here. I mean, he had energy from the crowd and then he took all of it away and wanted to start from zero again. What a weird instinct So this is a fool for your loving by Whitesnake that they're performing here sure and if you

go to the original it is I think one and a half steps higher. They're playing it so they they've been guitars way tuned down. Oh so the Ken can hit the doubts. David Coverdale didn't croon this one He explained it to you Carl. They've been singing all day. You have to give him a pass. That's true So that's Ken Tamplin. Thanks Derek for something that and that's always fun And then I did want to talk about this Tom Myers quote You know, it's no different than you know Police officer running to the scene of a crime or a

firefighter running into a burning building. It's what I do. So underneath our most recent video where we were checking out Tom's live stream where he was just sitting there and ordering food and writing down jokes and then he'd be like, oh I don't recognize you. You know I have a Venmo and a PayPal. If you wanna give me money, he just had his Venmo and his PayPal dress up the whole time. So Tom writes underneath the video that we posted,

quote unquote, begging for money while providing zero value. I guess that's kinda what I was saying about Tom's stream. He says, this is the the W ATP channel in a nutshell Probably not a smart idea to do your job and do live streams on one channel for an audience that will not grow What's he talking about How was this my channel in a nutshell we put out tons of different Content and I don't ever stream without having prepped a show. I literally never go on and just be like,

all right, who's here, what do you guys wanna talk about? Wanna watch me eat some food? I just ordered some food, probably gonna come in a little bit. I'm gonna work on jokes over here if that's all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, take your time, it's fine. And we do appearances every week on other shows and do crossovers and promote.

Yeah, so either Tom isn't getting it or he just hears other people saying stuff. I think he hears other people saying stuff and just regurgitates it because he says from podcast Karen every accusation is a confession. So this is something he's heard other people say. Like when he covers OP non-stop so he can hang on to already volatile Anthony Kumi audience while accusing people of being grifters, unoriginal, derivatives, hacks, liars, and most importantly not funny.

Now I just want to say to my buddy Tom Myers, covering OP is on brand. We've been covering OP since 2008, since he started a podcast. When OP started OP radio podcast, we started covering him. So this whole thing is like, can you believe this guy is still covering OPI since 2008, since he started a podcast. When OPI started, OPI Radio podcast, we started covering him. So this whole thing's like, can you believe this guy's still covering OPI? Yeah. It's our job. It's literally my job. That's why these podcasts exist in this world today. But this guy, every accusation is a confession. You know, he hears these terms and he's like, oh, I'll use that against Carl. And that's the beauty of it because that is a true poetic statement every confession is a warning every accusation is a confession So what does he do he gives himself up right at the end hacks liars and most importantly don't you ever call me not funny again?

Right, that's the part that everyone agrees Is the most offensive and I see why he's feeling he's like, you know You you shit on me for not fighting back and then I fight back and you shit on me even more The response to that is yeah, Carl needs to get a bong head transplant chill out So that's always fun. I love him putting his hat in the ring and going for it. Yep. It's always good. All right. I Really want it is gonna be a short segment But I was inside what was that? Well, I looked out of my notes and I saw steel towel Okay, and still toes a lot and I we we can't make it a lot. We're gonna just cover

Certain things that are happening right now. No, I got too much general stuff to say. Nope. Okay, let's go Please guys stream labs PayPal I got too much general stuff to say. Nope. OK, let's go. Please, please, please, please, guys. Streamlabs, PayPal, Super Chats, Rumble Rants, Venmo. Baby, you know what? Maybe we don't deserve it. Now, Adam, you were my guest on This Little Piggy on Friday. It was you, me, and Moody. And I played a clip of something that Aaron said that I was blown away by

I had never heard him say this before and then Moody and I got into what he meant by that and we went back and forth about that for the rest of the episode I think we just kept getting sprinkled back into the show and I don't think you and I actually got to talk about what makes this so meaningful. So what happened is he was talking about Nick Riketa getting ahead of this Gabe Hoffman interview with Keanu Thompson, where he was gonna drop some bombshells about Nick Riketa. There was this big promotion for this interview,

and this guy was an investigative journalist who was gonna come out and tell you things about Nick they're gonna change the way anyone feels about him if you don't if you if you don't like him you're gonna dislike him even more if you do like him it's gonna change your mind about Nick Riquetta so Nick comes out and he goes okay there's this incident and Child Protective Services was called on it and they say that I did this thing but none of it's true and blah blah blah blah so Aaron goes on his show and just like dude what a dumb thing to do to try to get out in front of it you should never do that wait you

don't know if it's gonna say that wait for it to be sad and then respond to it and then as soon as he said that he realized in his dumb brain that he's always trying to get out in front of things and so that's where we pick up on this clip right here Actually, no, I've never you know what? I've never done the getting ahead of it. I always wait till it comes out and Then I address it. I think that's a more honest way to do it But I don't think it's I don't think it's necessarily always a lie to get ahead of things. I don't think there's anything wrong like Sometimes you're being blackmailed. I mean as a matter of fact, the reason I came out with all the polycule stuff is I got blackmailed. I got

threatened. I got told, boy, you know, somebody told me sure would be a shame if you're a, if your ex wife found out that you were doing all that Molly and shit. And I'm like, Oh really? Well, I, nobody's going to fucking, you know, try to fuck with that. You know, Oh, you brought your kids to this place. Sure. It would be a shame. I'm like, well, then guess what? I better just come out with it then. So, you know, sometimes you'd be in blackmailed. I think, uh, wasn't it Kevin Hart was being blackmailed with a sex tape. So he just dropped it. Some lady was like, I want $10 million or I'm going to drop this sex tape we have. And he goes, fuck you then here it is. I thought that was

a baller move. So getting ahead of things when you're admitting something is good. Okay. Denying something that hasn't come out yet that no one knows about. That's a red flag in my book. I mean, all right, so he gets a little nonsensical at the end as he tends to do Where he's like trying to justify what he just said, even though he just said two different things don't get out in front of things I never do but then I did but that's because I was blackmailed and the Knicks not getting blackmailed Then why is he saying this? That's a red flag, but all of that said The the main thing that I want to talk about then Moody threw threw me out of my game, because Moody explained to me that Aaron doesn't know what the word blackmail means.

He's like, no, no, no, he wasn't blackmail. He just doesn't understand the definition of the word. And I went, Moody, he gave an example of Kevin Hart. He now understands it. He explained it specifically. The thing that's crazy about this is that Aaron justifies all of his terrible behavior. And he says, I'm better than Nick and Kayla and April because I

recognize what I was doing was wrong and so I fessed up. I told my family, I confessed to my wife, I came out here and told my viewers what's really going on and they never wanted to admit to any of it. That makes me the better person. I have the moral high ground because I'm the one who confessed to my sins. And now he's saying the only reason he confessed his sins to anyone is because someone threatened him with blackmail. And I was playing this on this little piggy with experts on Aaron Immel and it's just flying over everyone's head. This is crazy.

This changes everything. Yeah, it wasn't going over everybody's head. It was just an acknowledgement that he plays fast and loose with words like blackmail and what they actually mean. And even within this description of blackmail, it has to be something that like some random Sam Elliott figure in a cowboy hat came over to him at the bar and said, it would be a shame if people found out about your general blah blah blah. And he still then then even when blackmailed made the decision to go you know he has to be a man in charge of his destiny who was also

forced to buy evil outside. In case you don't like what I did well I did it because I had to do it. And that's his relationship with language and words and all of this stuff what's really revealing is that you're still hung up that mood he said you were wrong from last week and that words and all of this stuff. What's really revealing is that you're still hung up that Moody said you were wrong from last week. And that's the point of this whole segment was not Aaron, but it was to prove Moody wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the case.

I'm not going to see Moody this week cause I'm in Boston. So I'm not going to be able to do this little piggy with him. Well, he won't be able to show his face after this. This week coming up. But that's not the point of all of this. The point of all of this. And the reason why I brought that up is because the, the conversation got derailed. They went sideways. We talked about whether Aaron understands

the meaning of words or not, which became the crux of the argument. But what's lost on that is the most important part of this is that Aaron claims he's better than all these people when really his hand was forced. Which shows you that he so badly needs his enemies to have a loss more than he even needs a win. He doesn't care what his narrative is. Just they lost. That is correct. Alright, so big things happened today and I wanna just give you a little bit of a overview of this. So, Aaron had this

felony charge for revenge porn because he had sent a naked photo of Kayla Ricada to Gino Bisconti while they were live streaming together. Gino showed it to Keanu. So that's the story. There was charges of a gross misdemeanor and felony for revenge porn that Aaron was doing. Well, Aaron got, he went in front of the judge And they said, Okay, we're going to give you a $50 fine. And it's a misdemeanor. And that's pretty much it. And so Aaron was on here bragging about how yeah, see you guys

there's no felony. It's 50 bucks. It's nothing. But he hadn't been sentenced yet. That's coming up next week is the actual sentencing. And I don't know a lot about this, but I'm in a thread with Moody who puts a lot of time into this and knows a lot of things. So he was saying, well, when the sentencing actually happens, the judge can make any judgments he wants or she wants actually in this case. So this idea that it's already done deal and Aaron doesn't have to give a shit and Gino

can go on and talk about like, I't have to give a shit and Gino can go on and talk about like I saw a clip the other day of Gino trying to rub it in Nick's face like they were showing a picture of Kayla he's like I don't even recognize her because she has clothes on I don't even know what she looks like when she has clothes on she's like dude Aaron hasn't even been sentenced on this yet you do realize that well apparently Kayla received an email from Stearns County today, that a violation has been filed against Aaron Imhol. And it's a violation of his release conditions. It's been found contempt of court. Nick thinks

this might be a new crime for talking about Kayla. And so listen to this. This is what Aaron's attorney sent to the judge, Judge Schultz, today. It says, we are in receipt of allegations of a conditions of release violation in the in the above entitled matter. The case is scheduled for sentencing next week. There is a dispute concerning whether my client's actions actually constitute a violation of conditions of release. Now so part of The case is scheduled for sentencing next week. There is a dispute concerning whether my client's actions actually constitute a violation of conditions of release. Now, so part of this is that he's not allowed

to mutter Kayla's name. He's also not allowed to talk about his ex-wife because of the HRO, the harassment restraining order that he's under as well. So there's two exes in his life he's not allowed to bring up at all. And so what the judge is saying is that he's violated this. And so the attorney says there is no allegation that my client contacted the victim directly in any way.

The victim is apparently continuing to watch my client's online show to search for some type of violation. Frankly, I would invite her to simply turn off her computer and not visit this particular website. I would ask the court to defer any action on this issue until the sentencing hearing next week from Todd Peterson. So, this is some victim blaming shit right here. Oh, he's talking mad shit about this woman he's not supposed to talk about. You don't have to watch that. You don't want to. Shouldn't have been wearing that tight skirt. Why would an attorney respond like that? It's one thing to be snarky to the other team,

the other attorneys. I saw some of that at a point dabble point. Yeah, it's fun. But to call out the victim of the case and be like, yeah, what a bitch she is. Oh, she's trying to get him in more trouble now. Well, duh, my client's an idiot. Turn off your computer.

Yeah, I can't get him to shut up about it. I tried. They look for remorse, reform, rehabilitation. He's gone out of his way to communicate the opposite on all of these matters on a daily basis. That's on him. It's crazy. So, Aaron, because he's concerned that he's not going gonna get the $50 slap on the wrist and the misdemeanor, is now having this campaign where he's getting friends and family to write to the judge to explain what a great guy he is, these character letters. Hello, my name is Slam Peace. So his mom sent a letter to the attorney and this is public records. I'll just pull it up right here. This is the letter that Vanessa Imholt wrote to the judge, I should say, to try to get her son out of more trouble. And this is incredible. I can't believe the way that this reads Aaron is a 38 year old father of three twice divorced father of three

Who has been a shock jock as he calls it on the radios gotten fired from the radios gotten kicked off of twitch he prides himself on How outrageous he can be His mom writes, To the court. I am writing this letter on behalf of my son, Aaron Imholt, who is currently before the court. As his parent, I want to share a personal perspective

on the man he has become and the growth I have witnessed in him. There was a time when my son went down a difficult and destructive path. Like many young people, he made choices that led to serious consequences. As a parent parent it was heartbreaking to watch him struggle but I never gave up hope that he would find his way back now and I think the three of us are all older than Aaron Imhold when I must refer to him as a young person when he was doing Molly and coke

and swinging like all of the young people in the area come on it's 37 years old with joint custody of his three kids with his ex-wife what he a young person over the past year I've watched my son take full responsibility for his actions and make meaningful changes in his life because he was blackmailed he didn't want to do that! He has worked hard to rebuild what was broken, both within himself and relationships. He is now working steadily to improve, and he carries himself with a maturity and sense of purpose that I had long hoped to see.

Maturity. Have you seen this asshole? Is he a smug asshole? Yeah, yeah, another win for the toe. He's got a Venmo for the toe. BOO! He's got a Venmo for $450. Take that troll, suck it! He's a father.

Maturity, that's something he finds now. Right. I'm so proud of the man he is becoming. He hasn't become that man yet. He's 38 years old. I'm so proud of the man he is becoming. By the way, if I'm the judge, I'm so proud of the man he is becoming. By the way, if I'm the judge, I'm going, we're bringing this back to a felony. This is, this is crazy. This is not helping your cause at all.

He has shown true growth, humility and determination to live a life. And all of us can be proud of humility. I'm, I'm sorry, Vanessa, you're gonna have to pull some clips. Show the clips. I've never seen humility out of this guy. That'd be impressive. Also, all of us? Yeah, not all of us.

How'd we get into this? Yeah, not me. I believe in his future and hope that the court can recognize the progress he has made and give him the opportunity to continue on this positive path. Thank you for your time and your, for your consideration of this letter as a Testament to my son's character and

rehabilitation. Did I mention, oh, there's phone numbers. I just, I just dox people. Well, it is public. Every time. Did I mention that this violation could send Aaron to jail for, is it 90 days or 30 days? Because it is a violation, I think we were talking about this before the show started, right? There's a violation of his HRO, he's not allowed to get slapped with another charge in a calendar year.

Or slap anyone. Oh yeah, that would be a charge. So yeah, there you go. That would be when they'd look at what he's been doing and take character, you know, into... This is... They don't realize how bad that letter was. He's being sentenced. So the lawyer says, look, if you can get letters of support from anybody of note, it would help. So he went and got from whoever he could. Nobody's reading the letter. At best the judge or somebody's asking, did he get any letters? Who from? As soon as it says I'm writing on behalf of my son,

the judge knows where this letter's going. Right. Like there's no need to read the rest. Okay, his mother's support, does he have a community? Does he have a family? Does he have a job? Does he have people that would like him involved? Well, he has one we know of and she had nothing to say. I mean that was a very general I know he did that but and it was even like he's working on becoming someone Yeah, and any peek at what he's doing would reveal. Oh, he's learned nothing. I know he's a prick But haven't we all been pricks? And yeah, that was her take and this is the second time been pricks. Yeah, that was her take. And this is the second time in, well, this year that he's had to have friends and family write letters on his behalf because Safe Sport, in order to get reinstated into Safe Sport for boxing, he had to do the same thing. He had to get people to write

letters on his behalf and say what a great guy he is. Chris, if I come to you twice, I'm like, can you write another one? Yeah, I don't know man Just paraphrase the first one for me just move around some pairs. Who am I now? Yeah, or maybe just do better buddy. Can you just do better? You know what actually I'm starting to realize you are a prick and I don't want to write any more flutters say that you're a great Guy, it's not true You haven't been following this this diddy trial. Have you guys at all? Yeah, okay? Did you hear what was introduced today? There was a word introduced no, that's relevant because we're gonna go over tomorrow on the creep off, but what happened today

Well, they introduced a word and that word By the defense is the word cuck no shit That is why is he obsessed with watching other people and his girlfriends or wives? And what they're, the defense is hoping they'll say is that he is a closeted homosexual that is living vicariously through these women and that he wants to see them with these men. They're like a conduit, like a between, and then he rejects the woman afterwards because now he's jealous. This is their defense and that's Justin Bieber if he's a closeted homosexual. I Don't know, but I know there's one that like watching this yeah there you go like there's men that like this and

The air in him whole defense is what you're saying That's what I'm saying he could do it too at any point, say this is what I want, and suddenly all of this is under his control as opposed to needing mommy to write a letter as to why I ended up in that threesome with my wife and all that mommy. That's hilarious. Well, okay, I wasn't in the threesome, but there was a threesome happening on the other side of the wall. I could hear it.

I'm sure it was happening. People sounded satisfied. I know I wasn hear it. I'm sure it was happening. People sounded satisfied. I know I wasn't there. But they're in this ditty trial trying to go over the nuances between somebody who just wants to see someone sleep with their wife, someone who is closeted gay and wants to deal with that, and they're talking about all of it in ways that really remind me of this story and all the stuff that Aaron's doing. There's something even weirder about getting your mom write a letter about all of this. It's just not. It's so sad.

I know. When he married April, he lost a relationship with his parents. They were like, you're making a bad decision with this one. And he was like, fine. And I don't know who decided to end communication, but whatever, he stopped having any communication with his parents, which is a crazy thing to do

when you have three children, their grandchildren. And so. For starters, yeah. So he gets rid of April, rebuilds his relationship with his parents, and now he's asking for letters to say how great he is. Like poor Vanessa's probably sitting there going, I really despise you, honestly,

but I write, fucking trying to write something. Keep in mind, Mom, that threesome is a card game that we were doing It's like twister. You know That's an Airbnb I'm surprised he didn't add it to his list of ways you could donate to the show like or you could write a letter on my behalf He only wants money we got to meet the goal You got to understand He only wants money. We gotta meet the goal. Adam, you gotta understand.

Every single thing he says that you can do to help him, always giving him money, even though he acts like there's so many different things that you can do. All of them turn to him, can we over money? All right. We have the Joey C. Adam Bush interview to get into Brendan Schaub hating Texas. Ron the waiter asks Opie a question that I've been dying to ask Opie and he actually is forced to answer it Which is great considering John was on Mike KELTA Let's talk about Joey C you were on

Joey see Catalano TV and the description of the Episode was join Joey C as interviews actor Adam Bush in a raw no filter sit-down I was excited to learn it was gonna be wrong on filtered I didn't know that ahead of time yeah you learned that by reading the description of this mm-hmm show all right well let's get in do you want to set up your your first clip here only I just want to remind people that we I started doing this because we were reviewing podcasts and sometimes I felt like I didn't know enough about it on my own to form a strong opinion and

That ended up in me becoming a guest on the show So I could form my own opinion and then bring it back here and that's that's the only reason I'm doing it really This is taking what we were do podcast reviews to the next level. Thank you's the only reason I'm doing it really this is taking what we do podcast reviews To the next level. Thank you. You're going. I'm not just observing and reporting. I'm involved That's what I'm doing. I know what this person's like as an interviewer. I was interviewed by them Mm-hmm, so this is why this is the and by the way it doesn't go unnoticed by me the amount of effort You're putting into this It it's time consuming we appreciate it. I've just found that people,

you ever notice someone comes, like you're hanging out with someone and right at the end when they're ready to go, sometimes that's when everything happens. Yes. Like, oh buddy, I meant to ask you. And suddenly you're like, oh, this is why you've been here for the last three hours.

So I let the host decide when it's over. I'm a guest, they're in in charge I'm not just gonna run and sometimes at the end things start to unravel so I do stay a little longer than expected but you don't have to watch the original episodes you can just watch them here so Joey is very excited to have a I think he wanted to cosplay as like inside the actor studio is James Lipton. Yep. And this is him doing that. And let us get us part done and really make a connection here. I believe it's gonna be like a two-way interview.

I'm gonna be interviewing Adam and I believe Adam's gonna be interviewing me. Without further ado, I'd like to bring in to the actor studio chair, Mr. Adam Bush. Oh, Adam, how are you? Better and better, Joey. How you doing? I'm doing outstanding. Thank you for being here. I really mean that a lot. How's everything going, man? I got an impression from just a couple things we talked about

that, and I'm glad you said that. I want to make a connection with you, too. I think it's important when two people connect and the flow goes easier. But I'm under the pressure, you like to know a lot of things about me, so I thought we would do a style of a two-way interview. I'm an open book, I'll answer all your questions

to the fullest with no holes bar. And I put together a nice little package of questions for you as well. I'm gonna pause it real quick and just ask, did you prepare questions for Joey C.? Did you know this would be a two-way interview?? No. Okay we did play some of these clips Jenny Jingles brought some clips of this on point double point on Monday and Shuley was on the show and that's when we learned that Joey actually asked Shuley

for advice on this interview and Shuley was just like well just make it conversational you know doesn't have to just be you asking questions it could just be a conversation. And Joey took that as, oh, so interview me too. Yeah. And that's what he was. I didn't know that until Shule was explaining that to me, that that's what happened.

Which goes back to our original point of, there's some people you just can't help. Because I know Shule had his heart in the right place, and so did Joey when he asked him, but he takes direction so hard and so completely There are no small notes. He heard, you know, don't dominate with questions. Let it be a conversation as oh, okay Well, then he'll just ask me questions and I Suspect that secretly what Joey wanted from the beginning were any holes barred

There were there was at least one hold barred, but okay, it'll be revealed later Okay, and if that's okay with you, that's what I would like to do. That sounds wonderful awesome, awesome, madam, well Adam my first question to you is gonna be this and let me get it up here, please I got a teleprompter by the way I don't know if you ever I know you've worked on a bit of acting but I've got a I've got a I got a teleprompter It's something new. I'm trying, you played everything from villains to best friends What role was the most?

What was the role that was the most you under? underneath it all What? Okay, you played everything from villains to best friends. What role was the most you under what was i'm sorry What was your very first acting job and how did you land it? He's like, that question's too hard. I'm just gonna switch to question number two. Ooh, he speak word good.

That's amazing. But if you're ever curious, you know, if you're like, yeah, but if he just put his head down, focused, had some time, worked on it, that's what you get. That was those circumstances and that's the best he could deliver. And I want you to know I answered all of them. I don't include it here, it's very boring, but I answer every question he asks in depth. I hear his stories in depth.

It's a constant ramble from the second it starts to it ends. There are no pauses, there's no silences to cut from. So every one of these clips is a moment of him talking interrupted where I could just kind of grab something. And this is another example of that. Adam, I got another question for you. When you became a character like Warren, what part of yourself do you bring into the role and what part do you have to leave behind? Is that a question that you. When you became a character like Warren, what part of yourself do you bring into the role and what part do you have to leave behind? Is that a question that you want to know the answer to? It's a question that someone asked me to ask you, a friend of mine. A friend of yours? Yes. Can you say it

one more time? Yes. When you became a character like Warren, what part of yourself do you bring into a role and what part do you have to leave behind? I bring, I guess, all of myself. I don't leave anything behind, but I adapt to the fictitious circumstances and I try and react. That's just me. I like to use as much of myself as possible and I certainly feel like that you know, like that moment, I'll never forget it. It was the two, one of the top two John's darkest moments, one was when he really debased Clay Dabler by reading his texts over the air to just humiliate him.

There was something where he was drunk and he just had you dancing and laughing like a jester, like a, you know, just, you know, he likes that high-pitched laugh thing, so you just keep doing that until he responds and it just felt like, you know, you see people do that to like a baby that won't stop crying,

but even the baby like gets over it eventually. This, because he's drunk, would just never end. I remember thinking, how long is Joey gonna go on like how how low can this guy get and to what end and I don't think John will be happy until everybody's dead. I lost your sound Adam we're not hearing you. You did? You were going in and out there for a minute Yeah, yeah, you're back I don't know if you watched to me

I thought was the greatest show out of the internet to this day in the dabble versus when John was drunk and it was DG And I and him do you remember that episode? Oh, yeah, I went on for a couple hours I think that might be the one I'm talking about. Okay I don't I'm not quite remember if that was what you were describing Was in that one, but yeah, I agree that that was probably the I was the only one I don't drink So I was the only one sober DG was smashed. He was smashed and it was pretty hard. But yeah, he He sounds like he could hear you Not only could he hear me but that that's I just described that episode

Saw this it's what I just described that episode, Joey. I don't know if you ever saw this. It's what I just said. He is entertaining, but he's incapable, at least during these four hours of listening. He can't hear anything I say, and he can't stop cutting me off. If there's a word he recognizes, he can't internalize anything, really. So he's about to, he launches into the exact same story

I just told him, which is now suddenly fascinating because it's coming from him. Ask me some things and he was leading up to, we'll fly you to Detroit to go beat up Carl. He was making any when he was like dad on that show. So that's interesting. Did you know that? I don't remember Just has so many crazy things that I don't remember that specifically that he was gonna

I know the gems talked about fucking with our Detroit show And I gosh, I kind of remember Joey saying that he was gonna be there or something I think about hitman Dan showing up to that show in New York Yes, and who will take his late-night drunken phone calls and how it was Joey for a period of time I bet he did that I bet he tried to keep just Joey's always Bragging about his mob ties, and I bet he said oh mob ties. Why don't you go kill Carl? Just scare him enough. He doesn't go on stage in Detroit Yeah, just you know fuck up his ankles or you know what leave those just hit his arms. Just get something That's it. That's a weird thing and when John gets drunk

I think it's a truth serum for him and so you see the real John come out where he's just like you just hurt my enemies For me. Yeah, would do me a solid and just like beat up this guy. I don't like please. All right me some jokes one of the other I need something. Yes Boy, all right. So this is oh, this is another question about your acting That everyone in the devil verse is interested in learning about even Joey's not interested in these questions No, and we're gonna we're gonna learn why these questions are even being asked, but he's trying to be a professional interviewer he wants to You know why is he trying to be a professional interviewer? He wants to respect that he has a big Hollywood actor on a show and show that he can handle this type of interview

I think he doesn't have a he just has some character actor He does some double verse stuff like it's not you don't have to put on these We just want to talk about John Really really appreciate that I like to juror. I like to get a juror I couldn't find so much stuff on you on Buffy, but I watched the movie. I believe I watched what's the one? It was a drones. I think it was it was yeah was drones. I watched drones. I watched that movie I thought it was pretty good It wasn't it might be honest with you not my type of movie not the kind of movies I watch but watch it just to

Get to know you and I enjoy it. Adam wasn't in that movie he directed it. Yeah but hey thanks for letting me know you didn't like it and bragging about how you suffered through it. Honestly I watched that movie too but I didn't watch it to get to know Adam. He was just a director on the film. He did a great job. He got everything he could out of those actors. It shows you how, how, I don't know what the word is, but just self-involved. He is that he honestly thinks saying, yeah, I saw that film and I didn't like it. In my mind, I'm going, yeah, good man for watching it though. Good man. Thank you. He thinks that's my response. Did enjoy it. Me and my wife watched that. And I just studied you a little bit to find out about you. You know I know you grew up in New York. I know you started acting at a very young

age, Nickelodeon. You know, Leon the Profession was another one of my favorite movies. We can see the screen in your eyes, right? We can see that what you're reading, right? You know that. Oh really? You could see that? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not reading now. I'm just talking. It's off the screen now. Yeah, I'm just talking. I'm not reading off the prompter. I put everything I wanted to say in a prompter. It just makes it easier for me. I was nervous I'm gonna be honest with I was very nervous and I never have nervous when I go on air because I'm usually fighting with somebody I'm usually yelling at somebody I'm usually bantering but I was nervous because this was a big deal for me I really want you to know that and I think that you're a hell of a actor. Hey Joey

I get nervous every Wednesday. So don't feel bad. We have greatness in our presence. I can't help it I know your love for music and like to talk about that But like I said, I was advised to just let you take the seat. Let you let you interview me. That's what I was told I Can't tell you my sources. Okay. Well, I think of it like this if it would interest you We should talk about it If it feels like it's what you're supposed to say or it's an obligation or you know These are how these are supposed to go to worry about it if it's something you would want to watch I

You know your fans will Adam, your sound dropped out again. What happened? You're right. So what are your questions for me now? Yep, I cut to cut a lot of that out. In between all of this is him going, do you have any questions for me? Or is there anything you'd like to ask me?

Or I know you're a big fan of mine. Would you like to hit me with something? But again, I think he's a sweetheart, but he takes the direction a little too hard when I say let's just talk about what would interest you in this next one. Yeah. Awesome.

Do you, one of my favorite bands that I, I, like I said, mostly R&B, but I do like some classic rock. The Eagles is one of my favorite bands. Yeah, I like one of these nights, and that's one of my favorite songs. And I enjoy that. I love The Eagles. Why can't I shake the feeling that this is, like,

torturous to listen to? You and I talking about classic rock is like... You can take the lead and tell me what you like to talk about. I don't know. What do you think? Honestly, I'm sitting here trying to figure it out. I'd rather be me. I'd just rather be Joey C and you be Adam Bush.

Yeah. Let's just shoot the stick. I don't want to be anybody else. Yeah, I don't want to be anybody else. I would never change anything. I would never change who I am. I would never hide my name. I would never hide behind a mask.

I want to be me. People, I speak from my heart. I would never hide behind a mask. I get I want to be me people I speak from my heart and i'm the real deal and Yeah, this goes on for That wasn't the point it's not that you're using a potato filter What what adam was trying to say is let's just have a conversation like what are we trying to accomplish here? You want to tell me which eagles song you enjoy the most? carrots Yeah What are we trying to accomplish here? You want to tell me which Eagles song you enjoy the most? carrots, yeah, I Had these three it became too many moments where I was speeding up him talking so we could just take in how long but

There's there's too many of them. There's really no point in it All right. So this this next one Adam reads a sentence to Joey and wants to get Joey's reaction to the meaning of this sentence. And Joey's not picking up what Adam's putting down at first, so this is interesting. But I wanted to ask you about this one quote. Sure. What does this mean to you? They tried to cancel the truth, but the mic was still hot. All right, I'm gonna say something before I answer that Adam I'm not a very I have a lot of common sense smarts. I have a lot of street smart

I understand the question. I Was very poor and reading comprehension. I could read a book and five minutes later you asked me something Okay, I couldn't tell you one thing about the book. I'm getting better now as I'm older So you have to give me that question like I'm a six-year-old. Can you do that? So it's funny about this. I know I reading comprehension has anything to do with what does this quote mean to you? It doesn't make any sense at all But he also goes I'm bad at reading comprehension if I read a book and you ask me a question about it five minutes afterwards I won't know the answer

What about two minutes afterwards? Reading comprehension is comprehending it has nothing to do with like short-term memory Yeah, right, and this is just an opinion question. It's not factual. There's no he's like there's a right or wrong Right, what does this mean to you right however you feel about it? Of course? I'm so sorry They tried to cancel the truth, but the mic was still hot They tried to cancel truth, but the mic was still hot Help me I know I can answer this question give me more give me an example Adam I could get the right tell me what I think for a second I would be really helpful because I don't know

Because I want to answer all your questions I love answering questions I love talking about my story I like talking about my my my heartaches. I like talking about all the bad I've been through I like that like sharing if people think I'm nuts. Why would you put all your business up? I don't care I'm nuts. Why would you put all your business up? I don't care And and oh I do have to do one thing I have to drop one thing that I have to do here I have got a new producer. Okay This might actually be interesting. I'll see her about his producer and People think I'm nuts, but you know what? Chat GBT is

Yeah know what chat GBT is yeah yeah well uncle Bob I named my chat BT and he's my producer and he has a message for you he keeps changing what it's called and we he's put it into a into an AI into a okay so this is where it's revealed Joey's new producer uncle Bob is actually just chat GPT and so there was a lot of filibustering a lot of changing the subject Adam brings it back We really wants the answer to this question since and he doesn't he doesn't give me no negative starts. He he's Fine, I gotta find the mess. I should have had this up here. They tried to cancel the truth, but the mic was still hot Do you know who's yeah? Yeah, they tried to cancel the truth Do you know who said that originally Yeah, they tried to cancel the truth. Do you know who said that originally? No, who said that? Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob? My Uncle

Bob? It's in the description to the show. Okay, all right. Well, you know what? I didn't see that part. All of these quotes that I've been reading are from your description of this episode. Right, which is Uncle Bob, because I post a daily thing on there, the heat post. He gives me a quote every day for the fans and the dabble words. I just have to find Oh, yeah here hang on. Let me so this is brilliant Adam Just a quick kudos to you for the way you presented this question for the way that you're explaining it to him He's still not picking up what you're putting down You're like do you understand that you're putting this out as your content? You don't understand it and it doesn't make sense to anyone? And Joey goes, yeah,

yeah, this guy gives me a quote every day. I put out stuff. You would believe how much stuff this guy's giving me to do. It's not a guy. He understands, Carl. He does. This is his street smart. He knows he's been caught. He's pretending. It's meaning he was pretending he wanted to answer the question So he just got lost and let me let me find something and he thought that would do it and I hit him back with the question and He had no choice but to address it and then just pretend it didn't happen to go right back to whatever he was doing Before I was trying to find this

He knows he had a moment in the let's pretend it didn't happen But if I just fight it here, then I could pull it up here this way Yeah, just turned into a rock or running a game show at the hackamania It's in here somewhere. Oh, I was gonna find the folder. Don't be mean that was love. Sorry John looking at the ceiling Yeah Sorry Adam It would almost feel like you're trying to avoid the question. No, I'm not trying to avoid the question, Adam. Let me, you know what, matter of fact, I'll answer the question.

I'm having trouble trying to understand the cancer truth, but the mic was hot. So I want to answer this question. I don't know what it means either. I have no idea what that means. But these are your statements. Right. Well, yeah, I asked him to write a description and I guess he put this in a description that maybe I probably should have

went through it a little better and asked him. Yeah. I should have asked him. Asked him? Asked him? Asked him? I wanna see Joey interview Harrison Blake Young. Yeah, it would sound like this.

So he asked Chet GBT, what does that mean? Chet GBT's like, I don't know man. You're too dumb to use this I don't know what to tell ya It's I don't know It's our to at this point Yes, he spent a good hour and a half of it explaining to me that he is the real deal a straight shooter Who speaks from the heart? Yep? So I say how come you don't even know or recognize your own description of this episode? He goes into detail about what happens in this episode, and he posted it before it happened.

Right. So I was excited to read everything I was up to. So I'm just pointing that out to him, and there's no... And the reason why GPT does that is because a lot of these podcast episodes pre-record an interview, and then they literally give a description of this is No holds barred hard-hitting interview We get to the bottom of things because they have had the interview already Chet GPT is treating this like the interviews already happened. I was excited to know the bottom of what what am I gonna reveal? I want to know I wanted to know too

Not so much that I didn't watch the Gabe Hoffman interview instead of this but still I wanted to know too. Not so much that I didn't watch the Gabe Hoffman interview and said of this, but still, I wanted to know as well. It was very, very long. But it's one of my quotes, people fear what they don't understand. Oh, so anyway, this is getting into. There is no good space to pull the clip. He's always talking. So in this next one, I try and get to the heart

of what we're talking about. They always will fear something they don't understand. And two, people rather call a person who speaks the truth a liar and a liar is a truthful person. I think that's very big in this dabble verse. There's guys that make up stuff every day that are just born liars. I agree 100%. And what we're saying is that if you're putting out a quote that you don't even know what it means,

Right. That's not being your authentic self at all. That would be, I think laziness is fear. I think that's what laziness is. I agree. If I never really try, I can never really be criticized. So you're setting off to AI, you're describing an episode that hasn't even happened yet. Like I was excited to read all of the things that I had already done

Right before this was even released because my error I should have uncle Bob that better run this show Well, it's like if you don't know what it means And I'm glad you asked me that I'm glad Is he I don't think he is That is what of those things. But even that puts him like four steps above so many other people in this double verse. Like they are incapable of saying that. He is the quickest one to say it and not mean it in any way. And Joey is trying out a new thing. You know, he's doing a rebrand over the summer and he announced that he's got this new producer. It happens to be ChatGPT,

but it's called Uncle Bob. And so he's working out the kinks here, and he's working them out in real time with you, I think, Adder, I think you're helping him out a lot with his new approach. Happy to help. To podcasting. He doesn't realize that when you don't pay for ChatGPT, what you're getting is not adaptive,

it's not learning with you, it's not doing all those things, and it's getting worse and worse and worse. They really want you to pay for it, and what you pay for is remarkable, and what they're offering free is getting really lame. Cardiff did this amazing thing where he just asked Chat on air, he goes, give me an interview with Adam Bush, give me an intro.

And it was like verbatim with Joey said. Yes, it's very funny. And this is his biggest moment, and we get into, right at the end here his his personal life and he explains how he Managed to be a meth addict and crack addict for 30 years But also not have it affect his family life in any way He was always there for every ballgame every meal his his family never knew that he was living this

Duplicitous life. Family life going. I never did drugs in my house. I always did it outside of my life. I always went away. And what got me away, Adam, working in baseball, I would be away six months a year. My kids would come every month. So I lived in hotels.

Some teams, I had a deal package where they gave me an apartment. They would trade out tickets for apartments for the staff. So I had a lot of free time. I had a lot of free time I was not be an addict but not and and still be honest to your family and never do it Well outside of them knowing that I was that I was an addict I always was there for their for everything they need it their needs there went to school events I raised them the best I can I never let them see anything bad I if I saw them a strand I would. I never let them see anything bad. If I saw them a strand, I would tell them,

don't be doing it. I told my sons, you're not street guys. You'll never, you can't duplicate what I've done. You can't live on the street. You can't be a tough guy. Go to school, get your education. Be smart, be somebody, help people. I preach this, I always turned it on and off.

Even though I was still lying to them because I was nothing but a common drug addict. But I would not be that dirt ball glove that leaves their family and kids and their wives and just be on the street like a bum. I wouldn't do that. I had to balance it. I balanced it for over 30 years.

My drug use and being a father and a parent and a provider, it was very difficult in the beginning for me to do that, but I had to. I mean. It gets more difficult by the end, I would think. Yeah. The easy part's the beginning. Yeah, that's the honeymoon. Yeah. had to I mean it gets more difficult by the end I would think yeah I easy parts the beginning yeah that's the honeymoon yeah you know I get where I'm at just dabbling in math I spent in 35 30 some plus years of drugs I guarantee it's

well over a million dollars in drugs I guarantee you the you tell me if I'm wrong but I think you can say whatever you want to kids, but they're just gonna see what you do. They're gonna feel. Correct. You're right. 100%. And here's the big...

So, what you're saying, they can see behind your eyes, they can feel, they know. In the sense that they can. In the sense that they're your kids and you're their father and they know what's going on Yeah, I think they can and it all comes I'm happy that Joey's gotten clean and he's changed his life up I've hung out with Joey a few times and he's definitely changed his life and his perspective and that's phenomenal I didn't realize he was a 30-year method that seems like it would do a number on you I don't know why you're assuming that's the true thing. I It would do a number on you. I don't know why you're assuming. That's the truth thing I realized as I was believing everything he said instinctually. There's really the drugs which is the year's

Listen he reminds me of every teamster in New York. I would hang out with he's a he's a sweet guy I like him. I've heard people hang out with him and enjoy it. I'm down to do it. I Support him. However, he has to acknowledge this addictive personality has not been dealt with and at best It's transferred from drugs to food and talking because he cannot stop talking and you see that's His escape and they're in the third to fourth hour, it's just him. And he says something afterwards, he was like, this last hour was really great, I really feel different, I feel connected to you, it just feels right. And I asked him how it went and he said,

I don't know, but that last hour was really special. I was glad that I could provide that for him, but what I provided was escapism. He was just gone for that. And every once in a while he comes out of that stupor and is left with Facts like in this next one, but okay, and I'm glad you set that up But I should not be stopping on it, but no, please what's interesting to me is that anyone who gets sober of an addiction like that and it

Affects their family and affects their I mean you just heard him talk about all the money spent on drugs And obviously that would have been a lot better if he had had it for the family and supporting his family Right every other person goes Oh my gosh I had so many regrets and I I thought I was pulling the wool over their eyes and they didn't realize I had a problem But of course they knew of course There was a huge problem there that I was just disguising in my own head and pretending I was getting away with Joey goes. Yeah, they never even knew it's amazing. I had a way with all with it all what?

Before nothing sir you've learned nothing Yeah, all right. I'm sorry you set up this next clip, so this is not talking about the reason why he went to prison As we all know yes people say you're a scumbag because you took FEMA money You and your wife to feel that could have belonged to a real family when that was put to me like that in court room by the by the by the judge, it changed everything because he was right. What did it change? It changed the fact that I was a scumbag for what I did because I did take away from a mother that had four kids that probably got denied so I could go fucking spending on drugs and gambling. That's what that's what that's what

what the change was for me I was a scumbag that was a scumbag move We took away from a mother that had no father and their four kids that put in a real legitimate claim And took that money from them and that changed everything because it made me know Am I really a scumbag and I say yes, I was that was a scumbag move I took that money and I blew it on drugs and gambling and that's what I blew it out Joey you just explained to me how those things were separated and there was no... But it was most of my life but I'm telling you now as I'm older I'm

getting the conscience something I've never experienced in my younger years. I feel... When did the conscience stop? Because the coma thing was recently and then I remember you were getting you were getting millions of dollars coming in from that settlement. I think it happened my last session that I had when I went to the heart doctor and he told me, put it to me the truth. I asked him, I said, listen, I've been reckless my whole life and I know I'm showing you that I don't give a shit because I'm not listening to you. And he said, this is what he said to me.

He said, listen, you do what you want. I only could tell you a hundred times over and I'm done telling you. Yeah. I only could tell you a hundred times over and I'm done telling you Yeah, you ever go to your doctor and have them say to you look do what you want You're not gonna listen to me anyway you jerk treasure psychology. Oh Oh, no, let's see how much about you could deal with try to come back and show me you've done all the math So this doctor who's getting money good money from an insurance company or someone somewhere is like, I can't help you. There's nothing in this for me. You're not listening to me.

There's another thing in there where he talks about this FEMA scam. And he goes, I've realized how terrible this is, where I was scamming the government out of this money so I could get drugs and gamble. And there was a mother of four who needed that money. I disagree with Joey on this. I think you should scam the federal government every chance you get because all they do is print money. There's always more money. Just because he got money from FEMA doesn't mean that mother of four didn't get money. Everyone gets the fucking money. The scammers, the people who need it, everyone does. It's a free for all. All about taking advantage of the government. What's remarkable here is that he feels something That's where this fictitious couple that don't exist right?

But he can't admit that he hurt his own family He can't admit that doing meth for 30 years had some impact to get on his family life. They never knew They're just already about it now actually Here's the last clip and things get emotional I'm gonna go ahead and say it Adam Bush is making them feel I Got so much guilt and so much pain in me. I don't even know if I want to live anymore sometimes It doesn't It does come out across when you're arguing with the chat

that that's really what's going on but there's never you know there's never a reason to be dishonest with people you're right this is the first time someone had you on to interview you and then they were crying? Yeah, and I try I'm trying to make good on everything and I'm trying to correct things I'm trying to be but but I just believe that there's so much damage I was so fucking damaged in the head and I'm such a mental case and I'm and I'm just the things I've done are the things that I've tried to pull off or the people that I've lied to is I just don't I just think it's too late I just think it's way too late in my life to

Know I don't want to I don't do nothing bad no more I haven't been doing nothing bad or I do anything to hurt people or you doxing people or well in fairness You're done two wrongs. Don't make it right. I've doxed people have doxed me. I've doxed my own self on a daily basis I used to put my address up in my live stream. That has nothing to do with anything Shows you're an idiot. Yeah, do I punch you in the face? I punch myself in the face You know he tried Filibustering he tried humor. He tried charm. He tried ass kissing But this episode started with him being,

I used to be this person and now I'm this person. And after four hours, and I mean, you see he stops talking into the mic halfway through, he's just talking at me, which is a John thing. They both aren't doing a show, they're just getting the person they're talking to to like them, which is why they're comfortable repeating stories they. They've told a million times because they don't care about the audience They're just trying to get this person on their side and I was on his side before we we started right But this episode begins with I was that now I'm this and by the end of the episode He's like I'm trying and one day I will be after claiming all of these moments where reform happened including twice within this episode he says well

now I've learned thank you for saying that and when is that point ever gonna end it won't. Adam how much time have you spent in therapy? A little bit. I feel like that's the right amount. However much you've spent in therapy is the correct amount to spend in therapy because I watch Howard Stern try to do the same thing that you're doing here and fail miserably at it every interview. I explained that to him exactly. He talks about how he worships Al Pacino and I told him I took a class from Al Pacino and I asked Al Pacino a question about you know, how did visiting Shakespeare's home help you play Richard the Third Al Pacino a question about, you know, how did visiting Shakespeare's home help you play Richard III? And Pacino said, look buddy, because he knew that was like a dickish question, anything

you do with interest will serve you. So you go to therapy with interest and you'll get shit from it. You go there so you can tell everyone you went to therapy and you're fixed and you'll be there forever actually getting worse because you went to therapy and you're fixed, and you'll be there forever, actually getting worse, because you'll have somebody validating your worse instincts and telling you you're a hero just for being here. Well said, my friend.

I feel like I've learned something today, and I don't say that very often on this show. It's more than we can say for Joey C., but that's great, because Joey, we love you just the way you are. We love you, Joey. Thanks for having Adam on. That was part one. We'll get to part two. One day. And and also Adam was on Chrissy Mayer's show. We might break that down in Boston. That would be great

I would love that. Yeah, okay good. Very cool. I was watching you on Chrissy's show on Monday and full disclosure. I was texting with Adam behind the scenes because I was Reacting to what was happening I was off screen for a good portion of it, so I was available. Correct. That was what I was expecting. Alright, we have a lot to get to. Still, Brendan Schaab is miserable. And things are getting worse for him. OP gets asked a question by Ron the Waiter.

That's actually fascinating. And I was very interested to hear the answer to that. Southern Jones on Mike Kelton. We might not get to that. I don't know if we're gonna get to that today. There's so much to get to. I've once again over-prepared for the show. Adam, you know I've been on a beat lately. Of course, The Fighter and the Kid

have been on a podcast for 14 years. Brendan Schaub has been mocked across the internet for almost that long of a time. And so you say, well, there's nothing new about talking about The Fighter and the kid. But I would disagree with that. Because the fighter and the kid have moved their show to Austin, Texas, because Brian Kaelin wanted to be closer to the mothership, Joe Rogan's

Comedy Club. And Brendan Schaub, rather than take the hint, decided, all right, buddy, I'll go there with you. Let's go to Austin. And so he has moved his family to Austin as well as the producer Chin. They have a new house. They are building a new studio. The studio, as we're gonna see, was not built to be a podcasting studio.

It's more of a garage. And we know that Brendan's a big gear head, so he's got his vehicles in there, which is great. But things are not going well, because as Brendan finally gets to Austin, Brian's been there for months, Brendan finally gets there, all right buddy, we're here together.

We're gonna be fighting the kid live, we get on our schedule, get on a routine. It turns out that Brian's got a vacay coming up. Yeah, here we are, baby. We're back, bud. We're back. And I want to apologize for leaving again, but it's only 10 days, 11 days, 10 days. It's two weeks of filming. You're missing two weeks. I'm not missing two weeks, I'm missing. No, because you come back on like a Tuesday. Well, come back on a Wednesday, yeah. I'll be.

Brian, that's two weeks. No, but we'll get a podcast in that week. So it'll be three shows I miss altogether, three shows. A total of three. Four, because you come back on Wednesday, we'd have to film on Thursday. Yeah, we'll film on Thursday. We'll film on Thursday. But you know what, hey, look at me. We'd have to film on Thursday. Yeah, we'll film on Thursday, but you know what hey look at me with filming on Thursday, but guess what we'll get it in That'll be our Thursday. We'll do it Thursday morning, and then so we only missed three maybe we missed three like next week

So while you're gone on what are you gonna cruise? I'm going with the extended family. It's every it's every June every June This is a meeting that should not be the beginning of the podcast. Oh I wish Brian would be like, how about we make it 10 you fucking asshole These guys are way too comfortable Doing the show at this point because they're not taking it seriously at all These are conversations you have with co-hosts behind the scenes over text messages Good-natured ribbing or banter before the show starts you figure out and also I see this and I go how good is this show Thursday morning gonna be? Getting back from this long cruise in Europe and he's like, all right, man. We'll just do a Thursday morning. We'll get together We'll just do a show I

Can't wait to hear that obligation. Yeah, there's no talk about I have time to prep and we'll go over this and that's just like Not do it. We'll turn the cameras on for an hour on Thursday If that that'll make you fucking happy. Hmm. All right, I Don't think anything will make Brendan happy. No, he's miserable. This is not going well for him And when Brian would go on vacations when they were in LA There were tons of people to fill in for him because they're in LA and that's where all the celebrities and comedians and everyone are. Well they talk about the fill-ins they're gonna get for these three episodes when Brian's not on. Well it's my whole family though it's my dad he's 85. But cruises? Well we take it's a high-end cruise we stop in Barcelona. Cruises and test floors dude! Two things I fucking hate! No but this is a great

cruise it's with the kids the you know, it's great But yeah, you're missing two weeks only just got her so that's cool But yeah, we got I got Tim Kennedy filling in next week. That's a very good film And then I'll probably have Catharwood filling. It's a good. These are good fillings. These are good filling Are they you guys excited about Tim Kennedy filling in? I don't know who that is. Oh, I got good news It already dropped so I'm gonna show you a little bit of the Podcast the fighter and the kid with Tim Kennedy filling in for Brian Callan These is great man. It's exciting that they have these people that can hop on here with Brendan job the fighter

I can't do awesome seeing you. I can't believe you're in, Texas I can't like smiling ear to ear that like in one week I've got to see you twice. I know dude, and I don't bother you I know you're like you have all you have to fix that I know I have some block with now get over it This is a weird thing too. So this is a MMA guy as well and Brendan shop is so uncomfortable We're gonna find out later in the segment that he doesn't even go to comedy clubs Which is the whole reason why Brian moved to this place is all these comedy clubs downtown Brennan's go to him. He also like knows people who doesn't like want to bother them

Brennan doesn't know how to belong. He's no clue what he's doing here. No Understand that this conversation he just had with Brian was Brian's worst-case scenario of what's gonna happen when this guy when my mistress moves to where me and my wife live he's gonna start bothering me about how much time I'm spending with them and not enough and it's been like a week a couple episodes feels like a jolted lover this is really sad he's supposed to be in the comedy clubs, finding people discovering them making a life for himself. Instead, he's really embarrassing himself. This isn't gonna end well. Wow, no. And that's something so revealing about this

conversation specifically. And again, this like dropped yesterday or today. Yeah, you're right. We're neighbors now. You're a fellow Texan. I know. I'll have a pair of boots, a hat, and a're neighbors now. You know your fellow Texan. I know I'll have a pair of boots a hat and a gun for you I'm literally in the in the process of I'm not joking. I could pull my phone up and show the text as I'm designing a custom pistol for you right now I love it brother. Yeah, I was telling you like I was a little heartbroken leaving LA

You know, I don't know if you felt that when you first moved out there I was a little heartbroken just the the familiarity, the routine, the baseball, the RTA. And then as I tell you off air, last last week, T got invited to practice with one of the top teams out here. Okay. T is Tiger. That's his son who plays baseball. He got invited to practice with a team. Listen to this. It was the first time I was like, oh, I'm gonna be okay, man. It's gonna work out.

Brendan is now basing this decision to move his entire family to Austin on whether or not his 10 or 11 year old son, I don't even know how old Tiger is, he's not old, whether or not baseball works out for him. That's A, a lot of pressure to put on your kid. And b, like living vicariously through your son is not healthy. This is not a healthy way to live your life. Very similar to why Opie wouldn't move. Yes. Because of the kids. Yes, it's an

excuse that these low cows use for the things that are missing in their life because they think it sounds noble and it's one of the you know signifiers that lets you know Shab is now officially a low cow. I'm telling you I can feel it in my like deep inside when when these guys begin this downward spiral even if I'm not interested in them or don't have a history I go oh shit and it the same thing with Opie the same thing with John this is all the stuff John does guilt people for not spending time with them on air explains about how he's been dissed by other people off air to create sympathy but then brags about how he's a hero because his kids are achieving I'm in for the long haul with this guy

because this isn't gonna this is going straight down and he's just filming it without realizing it. Welcome to it, Brendan. And I've been watching clips of him on other people's shows, on his own show. This conversation about his son being good at baseball is brought up on every episode. He has put all of his eggs in this basket.

Like, no, no, it's good that I moved to Austin because there's great teams here and coaches and he's gonna get the coaching he needs to be a pro someday whoo he better and the neighbors I won't hang out with are great right when he smashes their windows with a home run ball and I know he's been a locale for a while but he he's had power, success, money. It's this tragic decision that he's made that kind of intensifies the whole thing and makes it like the official freefall. He had things to cling to. Like you're saying, now he's got Tim Kennedy, who's making him a gun who he doesn't feel comfortable talking to because Brian has fucked him up for all other people because Brian doesn't want to see him. So getting back to this previous episode, Brennan's explaining that, you know, he's the one who came

out there, got the whole studio set up and did all of this work so they could have the fighter and the kid in Austin. Hey, hey, after 14 years, hey, my back hurts and so does Chin's. Chin and Brennan have been in this studio building this place out, putting up lights, renting the place, leasing it, paperwork, all that stuff. Oh buddy. I mean everything. When you go play grab ass when you're like on the lake doing, I'm in here. Stand up and just, yeah, I've been. Oh you just show up.

I've been, you know what I've been about as useful as a cow chewing grass. Yeah I've never heard that term before That cow will someday be my steak. I find that very useful But I guess I hear what you're saying so now Brendan's trying to guilt Brian and to be I'm like dude We're doing all the work. We're the reason why we have the fighter and the kid in a studio out here in Austin Let's talk about this studio. They have this is from a channel called American read act and This guy's done a brilliant job of breaking down. What's going on on the fighter and the kids set You're some current events dude. Yeah, warm in here. Yeah, we're sure so we talked about

We had them turn off studio yeah, you're getting so we talked about I like the no no no you see we had them turn off studio Yeah, you're getting you're getting a little moist. Yeah, but this oh, you shouldn't be this way So this new studio is really bad much worse than we previously thought because as you just saw it gets extremely stuffy in there Since these storage units don't come pre-installed with AC so to fix this Brendan's got this Industrial sized air conditioning box in there that sounds like a leaf blower whenever it's turned on. But I will say this, you're talking about tens of maybe hundreds of millions of Muslims around the globe?

Ignition of it. What is that noise? It's ACG. It kicks on for a little bit. Turn off. But. So they're battling. They're competing.

You hear the guys talking louder as the AC is running in this place But let's not forget. It's not just about the AC unit. Let's remember we play this on the show There's also remote tracks nearby. Oh, yeah, having a hard time finding me It's a train. That's a train. Yeah, there's a train that goes around. Oh. We're familiar with trains. We know how they work. This is a disaster. What's going on? Also, the whites, we saw this on the first episode, the whites turn on and off.

What's that? All the time and shit has to run down and turn it back on during the show. And they're loud for some reason. And that's a tarantula. It's a disaster. We get to see a lot more than I think he realizes. This choice of studio, he went for aesthetic, and that's it. And everyone told, like, if your location's scouting,

oh, it's next to a railroad, then we can't record here next place. That's it, done. No air conditioning, no heat. It's hot. It's cavernous and echoey, but it looks cool. I'll buy it. That air conditioning. No heat. It's hot. It's cavernous and echoey. But it looks cool. I'll buy it.

Well, that was it. I need to do this fast because I need to prove my allegiance. Right. Make it look cool on camera. That's all I care about. I don't care. He wants it to look cool, but he also is the gear head guy who wants to bring all his trucks

and his vehicles in there. So he needed a big cavernous space. And he's like, we'll just make it both things. We'll make it my garage and the podcast studio. Just like a John, just like anybody else. It'll be fine, we'll do it live. Yep. So why are they in Austin?

What's the whole point of this? Well, Brian explains, even though he's not carrying his weight as Brendan was just saying, Brian will get talent and bring them on the show. Well no, no. We're going on vacation. Now listen, I'm gonna get us some great guests. I'm at the mothership, I'm at Creek in the Cave.

We are gonna have some great fun guests. I've never heard, I've heard of Creek in the Cave. Is Creek in the Cave an actual day in the creek? It's a great club. Oh, it's a club. Yeah, it's a club. See, I always think of like small red rocks and then the water's there.

No, no, no, it's like Vulcan Gas Company, it's like right there, that whole section is it. That's a a club. Yeah, it's a club. It's the I always think of like a small Red Rocks and then the waters. It's like Vulcan gas company. It's like right there. Right. It's that whole section is it. That's a club. I love that. That's cool. Okay. This is insane. Yeah. He didn't know Creek in the cave, the comedy club in downtown Austin that's right near the mothership and the other venue that they played when they did their live show. These comedy clubs are all in this small radius, and that's the whole reason why all these communities are going to Austin, is becoming the comedy mecca.

Brendan's been living there for weeks, and he goes, yeah, tell me about this creek in the cave, is that like a Red Rocks kind of venue? Nope, it's a comedy club, actually. He was hoping for an invite. He was, oh, I've never been there, what's that like? He was hoping he'd invite. He was all I've never been there. What's what's that like? He was hoping it's a come on down. I'll introduce you to everybody. He said nope not for you. Well. Yeah, it's funny You say that so Brendan was on another show recently called

Autotopia LA and Autotopia LA is a show about cars and and whatever gearhead stuff and I think that they're even trolling him when they ask him about hanging out at the mothership. Do you still, do you ever do stand up still? No. Like so when you're out in Austin,

you won't be going to the mothership. I'll probably hang out some, but again, it's like I don't get how guys do it, God bless them that do, but I just can't find the balance Of getting back in the stand-up and being a good dad. I can't yeah, I just can't yeah Everything I'm doing my and crazy guys like Tom Sager and burr crasher pulled that shit off Thompson's I guess like young kids and he works it into his comedy and stuff is and funny, but yeah and the wife Christina

She's also traveling come and they do the podcast why I made studios like and they you know I don't know the personal life they might figure it out Wow, that was great isn't that incredible like I said I live in an Austin I bet you're spending a lot of time with the mothership and you know talking all these comics not I can't do that I have a kid Think about how many times he's clearly said that and never received a follow-up question Yeah, he thought that was gonna end there not like what about Steve Martin road parenthood? Bill Cosby based his entire life on like being a parent like every comic turns being a parent into their new thing

Not for you fine, but don't act like it's fucking crazy, right? Yeah, so some people figured it out Oh, well, it's subtle implication that they're all bad fathers. Maybe Cosby, but. The elephant in the room, I'm sure he was a great dad. We don't know. The elephant in the room here is that it's well-documented that Brendan stopped selling tickets. People saw his special and then his subsequent special,

and they went, this guy's not good at comedy. And so he wasn't able to tour and be a comedian and he throws out every excuse I was watching this interview just like well then I want to get home until 1 a.m. and my my kid wants to get up throw the ball around it's 7 a.m. and I'm hung over and so just comedy just wasn't working for me he never says yeah I'm just I'm just not as good as these guys I can't hang with these guys that's what we see from John it's what we see from Opie He can't do comedy because Easter's coming and he has kids

right so it turns out Theo Vaughn who they started the King in the sting the wing in the ding the whatever the golden hour finally became but it started with just Theo and Brendan and So Theo got himself far away. He went to Nashville, said, I'm done with this. Theo's career has taken off since then. And apparently Theo checked in on Brendan recently to see how he's doing. Are you critical? Super, uh, but weird too. Like he randomly texts me. I don't know if he knew I moved or something like that.

And he's like, check it in, man, blah, blah, blah. You going through a tough time? And I was like, I just moved to Austin, man. Yeah, I'm trying to find my way. I'm heartbroken about LA. You just moved to LA, right? Oh yeah, yeah, fuck yeah. I miss my community, my routine.

I'll find it. And it's starting to happen. You'll find it, you'll find it and it's starting to happen. You're fine. You're fine. I got to talk to this guy last night and he moved from LA. Listen to this. I think he's lying. This, I talked to this guy last night story. Sounds like so made up to me.

And he moved from LA and he is like, yeah, Texas is great, man. Best decision on Armanios. But you should know it's no LA. Cause don't get, you're going you should know it's no LA is don't get you're gonna miss There's no replacing LA Yeah, sounds like a true Texan now Adam I Understand you live in LA I assume that you like living there because you've lived there for a long time It's nice. It's nice, right? You enjoy it there? This guy, Brendan Schaum, loved LA.

All of his friends were there, everything he did, his families, all their friends. He's heartbroken. Everything he was doing. He's heartbroken because he's not in LA anymore. So he talks to this guy, he's like, oh, I moved there from LA and actually it's the best decision I ever made But you know, it's not LA. It's not as good as LA, but then he gives this advice and again, this is a fake conversation He's making this up and I was like, oh how long did it take you to get? Thank you get like, you know back in routine and feeling comfortable three years. I went what is yeah three years Top three years. I went. Oh shit. Yeah, I went hopefully it's a Faster for me than that is probably not but you figure it's only three years. He's crazy See this is no one would talk that way. No, it's miserable for the first three years

But if you stick through three years, then it starts getting better Is this a loophole so he can suck for three years? could you imagine if you started at a job in a company and You're a new employee there and you go up to someone like is it like this all the time. This is a toxic It's awful like oh, yeah, the first three years are terrible figure it out. Then it's great It's like well, then I should probably quit now that right cuz I don't want to be miserable for three years Before you go, I'm gonna lose things. I'm gonna lose a lot of things Considering John reference that that was that was not a conversation that happened

He was not comfortable enough to say he's miserable and he wants to go home He's that's what he was he's trying to say through this if you know person he made up Yeah, and I want to ask you does it sound like that for everybody all over? Modulated and distorted them them talking. Oh, it sounds okay to me, but it was it is very hot on the very very hot Yeah, it sounds like it's from the original audio. That's kind of yeah I didn't do it remember two weeks ago when he was shitting on a sound engineer for not buying a place yet Oh, yeah, this is what happens when you shit on your sound engineer They let you sound like this for the next episode. It's awful. It's a good point, but yeah, he's heartbroken

About LA and I like the Theo von just checked in like hey man How you doing? He didn't even know that he moved to Austin even though the entire internet knows that but not the Elvan He isn't he isn't keeping tabs on Brendan's job enough to even know that. That's telling right there. Well, he's busy with his career. We got OP radio to get to. We got a game, Two Minutes with Tom, with the Review Girls. We got all sorts of things coming up. I do have the Mike Celtic clips. We might not get

to that, even though I feel like it's the first time ever mainstream quote-unquote media brought up the dabble verse and asked John about it which he never thought would happen. It's so important you're right. It's historical. It is. I talked a little bit about it with Drew Lane yesterday but I have a whole different package here. I don't know if we're gonna get to it today. All right Let's talk about the opster Stunk fart Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa and he's very excited to give us all a weather report. We haven't seen the sun out here in about, well since we arrived, we haven't seen the sun.

I think we've been out here four or five days already with not even a glimpse of the sun, just windy, rainy, and cold, and with that, it's still way better than New York City. I would actually watch his segments as a meteorologist on local news. He's so excited about the weather. He's passionate. So one thing he's passionate about, you know, and he brought this to my attention years ago. Hope he doesn't have any passions in life.

That's why he's so boring. It's why he doesn't have anything to talk about. The weather is something he really gets every episode. He gives us a weather report. But he's mostly excited when he can complain about it. Oh yeah. And he usually does complain about it. So that works out well for him. I don't know who he thinks shitting on New York is pleasing among his audience. No, I think he just really viscerally despises living in New York and he just

can't help himself. I'm going to have to assume that's where most of his audience was from and is still currently from, so it's not a smart move. And again, no one in his audience has it as good as he does in New York. Not a single person. And yet he bitches up a storm and everyone's just like, yeah, man, you should see what it's like

where I'm living in Brooklyn. It's a little worse than your situation, asshole, but thanks, Thanks for that. I do love that. Opie's been singing the doors a lot lately. Have you noticed that? For some reason he's having a little a Renaissance period with the doors. He's he's getting into it. Scott Watson says, ain't seen the sun in three damn days. Yeah.

That's for sure. Cue up the doors. Waiting for the sun. Wait, wait. Oh, I, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I, I can't come up with the beat. Wait, ting, wait, ting, wait, ting, oh, wait, ting, waiting for you to That's what I wanted. Okay That's what you wanted

I'm a huge doors fan if someone's saying that you had like, huh? You I have to guess which band plays that song Mr. Hughes it's time for your medication now. We need to Bring you into the room Not even close, but thanks. Thanks for playing along Ron has had a real problem with his audio whenever he does these streams because he's got this new Google phone he's all proud of and he thinks that that's like a broadcasting studio, and it's not and so Opi's teasing the segment coming up. Yeah, right

And so Opie's teasing the segment coming up. Yeah, right. No, Ron, no, like, I think we're going to have Ron. I think I'm going to have Ron the waiter on in a couple of minutes here. He said to me, he's like, Oh, I figured out by audio and you know me, I'm like a, a clutton for punishment. I'm like, all right, Ron, then why don't we do a live stream and let's see if you figured out your audio, you know, damn well the audio is going gonna suck. You know, it's gonna suck Are you inviting ron to the beach? No No, so a couple things going on here first off

Opie's inviting a guest onto his show Assuming that it's gonna suck What is that? He needs someone to feel better than and people are getting so low and low to the ground. He's running out of people to feel better than yes. So now he's like, do you think he got his audio figured out? I hope not. I hope it sounds like shit on my show.

All right, OP remember that I heart media deal you just penned You know maybe you should start putting together an audio podcast you want to listen to uh or not whatever. Let's see what happens Maybe we can see your face once Help I don't know definitely not it's part of his five-year plan so and then he and then he goes as was Ron ever invited to the beach house and That's an enthusiastic fuck no. You think this guy's my actual friend? No, I use him.

I humiliate him on my show when we're at Gebhard's. I make him pull his shirt up so we can look at his fat belly and we zoom in on his big fucking nose and we put him out in the street in a whoopee cushion so he can scream things and we can humiliate him He is not invited to my house that which leads you to believe that this is a whack packer to him This is another bobo that that opi is fucking with on the show exactly right. Yep. That's what he thinks

But he doesn't use him that way he brings him on as a co-host and then tries to have a conversation with him We're about to get there, but, Obe has to talk about his feet. This is an important part of the show. And then, you know, I don't wear shoes again until September, like September 15th. And then, you know, my feet, if you need to know, they are gnarly when I get back to the city. It looks like I got like Frito chips for toenails. They're so bad from just wearing no shoes for three months. I honestly don't understand this. Why would not wearing shoes have your feet

in worse shape than if you were wearing shoes? Can't you still keep up with the hygiene aspect of it? None of this makes sense. I don't even believe that's a real... somebody paid $10 to ask him that? Yeah, did you toss the shoes yet? Cheers my friend. He's got his guys on here that follow his stories. He's like, when I go to the beach house, no more shoes. It's just sandals and barefoot and he's just living fancy free like a 10 year old because you're unemployed It's fine. Just admit it. It's the same thing in the city because you don't have a job and you don't leave the house Also the fact he has no shoes the entire summer

I imagine there's probably some pretty nice restaurants out in the Hamptons Right, Long Island. There's probably some places he could go or he could put some shoes on and No, no, I wonder if he's poor I wonder if they have these houses, but they don't spend money on things Hmm, that's why he goes to the wedding by himself. That's why everything we don't see it's all off camera. That's interesting I don't think they go to nice restaurants anymore They're they're cash. They don't have any cash. They just got to sell one of these things. Yes You might be onto something there. All right, so Ron does come on the show He joins the show about 12 minutes in and I don't know how he did it

But his audio is better. His audio is actually very good. Hope he's pissed problem is Even though his audio works his brain does not Hope he's pissed problem is Even those audio works his brain does not When Florida they have like these special visas where they can come for like three to four months for the picking season Yeah What was I saying The mic with her it don't matter I'm just so happy your audio works. I'm just so happy nice

What else is going on you think you think we're gonna do something crazy in iran? Oh my gosh This is what I mean like opi brings this guy on And most of his questions are what else is going on? So it's like ron has to prep and bring stuff to opi What else is going on that question? I don't know what he's so I don't know what he thinks is gonna get out of him He's gonna have a conversation when they first started the show together to OP, what else is going on? That question, I don't know what he thinks is gonna get out of him, I'm just gonna have a conversation.

When they first started the show together, they talked about basketball for the first five minutes, and it was actually kind of interesting. I'm not interesting, but they knew what they were talking about, they were talking about. Better than usual. Yeah, they actually, both of them were adding things to the conversation that they understood,

and they were bouncing off each other a little bit, and then OP was like, okay, enough about basketball, let's talk about geopolitics, Let's get into that. That's something that Ron definitely can't wrap his head around. And of course he can't. To get the hell out of here. I want to say about Iran, Ron, cause you're a babbling idiot. Let me in here for a minute. Um, the people of Iran want a regime change, but they don't have anything waiting in the wings is the biggest fucking problem here So he calls him a babbling idiot

Opie goes yeah the problem with Iran that I'm anything waiting the wings He run as she goes back and goes well They actually have a king that's living in England who said that he'd come back if they want to have a regime change and Open he's like, uh, he actually fucking do something shit I was trying to big-time and act like I knew everything about stuff But don't worry Ron will fail again. If you're from Iran, you're called a Persian. There's a massive Persian Jewish Persian What do you call it society here or You know what? I mean? mean? They all emigrated when the shock came in, but there's a huge coercion.

You're punching yourself out. Yeah. You made your point. You're punching yourself out. I couldn't get the words out. And you made a very good point, but you're punching yourself out. Go ahead. Go ahead.

I don't know what we're doing, Alpie. I don't know what the plan is here. Do you want him on there debating you, making good points, carrying the conversation? Do you want him to just say dumb shit and then you say, you're an idiot, stop talking? Adam covered it. He's kicking him around.

I would go with the latter if you're gonna do anything. Like he's gotta figure out a role for Ron because using him as a co-host is not working. OP is angry and he needs an outlet for it and right now it's that guy. Yeah. And I used to look at John because you know we're from similar places and think wow that's a cautionary tale for me but now I look at Ron and I'm just like I gotta hold it together. I don't want real tight. Real tight. I'm worried for ya. I don't wanna feel bad for Ron. I'm starting to.

I know, he's so obnoxious. Yeah. He brings it all on himself, obviously. If we were on a lull, you know, in the middle between two segments, and you just threw on me like, hey, Israel and Iran, go. There'll be a discussion afterwards.

Yeah, right. It shows you how, I mean, he avoids, he truly avoids saying whether he prefers Trump or Biden or anyone else he likes to, but this, he thinks he has the nuance and the intelligence to just wade his way through it, just talk about it lightly and move on without having any strong opinions. Yeah. Again, I don't know what he's hoping to accomplish. It's delusional.

So then he gets into Joe Rogan talk. And of course, Opie doesn't know any other podcasters. He just goes, yeah, the reach is all with podcasting, man. Joe Rogan reaches more people than anyone. He doesn't know that there's all these other shows and all these other important players in this era, but he's just ignorant. All three cable networks, CNN, MSNBC and Fox together and Rogan still kicking their ass. He's huge.

He, he, he, yeah, he's huge. And he started out, didn't he start out with you? Like you made him, right? You should get like a royalties or something. You should get residuals. Well he has admitted that the open Anthony show was very influential as far as him starting up his shit. What else you got, Ron? So Ron's going, yeah, Joe Rogan, you got to start with you guys, right?

Like this is why the, the Joe Rogan experience exists. And he goes, ah, what else you got? Which is a great conversation starter. And ender. It's a better ender, actually, when it turns out. It's the laziest way to use this guy, to just be like, ah, what else you got? When he's engaging in a conversation with you. And what I love here is that Ron sticks to this plot and asks the question that I've been wondering

for years now. Yeah. The OP radio show was so influential at the time that, and you know what, it really runs me the wrong way. I don't like the fact that one of your regulars, Sherrod Small, who really kind of like ghosted you, is that the term the kids used? But he's still using you in capital letters

to promote himself when he does shows in the Hamptons. It's Sheraj Small and the very next thing below it from the OP radio show and then every other credit is not in capital letters so he's promoting you to promote himself but he ghosted you that does that it rubs me the wrong way well it sounds dirty. It sounds, it sounds like there's no appreciation. Finally, finally someone brings up Sherrod small. Hey, Opie used to do shows with Sherrod small in the afternoon on Sirius. He was with there with Carl Ruiz and Vic Henley and

you never see him on the show anymore. There's no mention of him. What's up with that? I didn't realize he was using the Opie radio credit to promote gigs that he had that's interesting So I'm glad that Ron the waiter the guy that Opie stretch treat like a whack packer Mm-hmm is on here to be like hey, by the way, what's your relationship with charades small? It seems kind of fucked up we never see him around or anything like that and There he is still using your name. I'm guessing Opie never expected a compelling question like this. No, nobody did. Everyone was surprised about this. So this is Opie's response. I

was a very stupid man, Ron. Like, I thought I was making real relationships with a lot of these people. But you learn, I've said this many times, and the regular is going to be, not again. But when you sit in the big seat and you have that much influence in the comedy world, like a comedian will come on. Some unknown, and a lot of these guys came on as unknowns.

Bert Kreischer came on our show as an unknown. Theo von came on as an unknown.ischer came on our shows an unknown Theo von came on as an unknown Joe Rogan relatively an unknown and As far as where he was gonna go bill burr started basically on our show, you know that's Very interesting that opi goes into this like list of comedians that I owe him I guess To say that Joe Rogan, he wanted to say he was an unknown. Joe Rogan had already been on news radio. He already had a career in show business. And so he's like, well, he wasn't as famous as he initially got to.

Sure. But is OP trying to say that they had a good judge of talent and so they brought on guys that would become successful or is he saying that Bill Burr and bird Kreischer needed open Anthony in order to become success like which which thing is he trying to say here? He's saying he discovered them and they owe him sounds like it right because The way I see it and the way everyone else who were into open Anthony back in the day I'm sure blind Mike would have my back on this see it is they go Oh, no, Jim Norton recognized the guys in the clubs that he was working with who were really funny and could bust balls and even when at the comedy seller table were funny wasn't just in their act and he started bringing them up as regulars and

That's why they got the cream of the crop because these were guys who were gonna take off and make it either way. That's how I see all of this. And good on Jim Norton or Opie or Anthony or whoever else for recognizing who was talented and bringing them in. I think that's a difficult thing to do.

If he could do it, he'd be doing it again right now. Correct. Yes. So finally, let's address charade specifically. Some of the some of the guys never turned their back on me. And when my when I was doing my last radio show for serious XM, I'm not gonna lie to you. I loved working with Carl and Vic and Sherrod. Sherrod was great on my

last radio show, but it was painfully obvious when those two guys died, Vic and Carl. Sherrod was like, I don't have time for you anymore because you're not talking to the same amount of people you used to talk to. It couldn't be more obvious., Vic and Carl at the time, they were in it for the fun of it. This is an interesting thing to say. Yeah. So he says, so I know this for a fact, he used to pay those guys 7.50 an episode and that was serious, was able to pay these guys who'd come up and be on OP show for however long it was three, four hours, whatever it was, he could pay him $7.50 an episode. And then he's like, now my buddies Vic and Carl, they're just having fun. They're in it for the fun of it. So it was great that they continue to do

in the show with me. Whereas Sherrod saw this as a job and he's calling Sherrod out for that. as a job. And he's calling Sherrod out for that. That is wild. Isn't that interesting that now we're starting to see the animosity that he has towards Sherrod Small, something that has not come out before. It's finally rearing its ugly hat. He's willing to admit to having much less viewership

to get to this point. That's not something he does often either. Right, and if you are a comedian and you're going on these shows because you want the notoriety and you wanna get in front of an audience and build that, what's the point of going on Opie Radio that no one listens to or hears?

If it's to hang out with your buddies, then just hang out with your buddies. The idea that a zoom recorder he would walk around with and shove in people's faces would make it less appealing. Like, oh, if you want to grab a beer or something, you want to go bowling, give me a call. I don't want to be part of this show that's embarrassing. We're talking to homeless people. The problem with bowling and hanging out with you is that the dynamic is not that I'm in charge so I don't enjoy that. So let's just go do this on my terms. Yes. And so we find out something again thanks to Ron for asking these questions because we find out something about Opie and Sharad's current relationship that I did not know. Like would you say to him hey dude like

like stop stop using me to promote yourself. Like do whatever you want. He likes me every once in a while and says, I miss you, brah. And I'm like, well then come do our show at Gephart's. Oh, so by the way, have you invited him to do the show at Gephart's? A ton, a ton. I mean, people are paying attention. When I lost the show at Series X, haven't started up the podcast, Vic and Carl were all in.

We were making no money, but we were having the time of our lives. And Sherrod came on just a tiny, tiny bit, just a little bit here and there. He's been invited to gabards, Sherrod small. This I want to see. I want to see Sherrod react to Ron the waiter and Matt and just be like, Opie, what are we doing? What is going on with the current state of Opie radio? I'm guessing this is a lie. I don't think Opie would want Sherrod to see this. Right. I bet he invited him a long time ago. That's true a long time actually you're right because Opie radio when he first started doing the Opie radio podcast years ago we first started covering him would frequently go to gab hearts and other bars and Just pull out the zoom recorder and start talking to buddies at the bar

Right, so I'm sure that was because Vic was there and Kyle Ruiz was there I'm sure he was like hey, we're Sherrod sure I did show up a couple times back in that those days But he got he quickly was like yeah, this is not it And what is it with these guys always blaming anything that happens to them on? The things they can't control that they're a victim these people died. There's nothing I can do I had to be a father That's why I can't do comedy why can't you just admit what's going on and why can't Ron just say yeah why don't you pay me Opie that's funny yeah no it's because you got all these people on the internet saying no it's cuz you're not talented

oh no it's because this it's cuz that and your instinct is to say you're the ones who are wrong and I'm gonna prove it because God forbid like you were saying earlier Adam if Aaron Immelt would just come out and be like yeah I'm a cuck it's I'm turned on by it it's what I'm into and everyone just goes oh okay well that makes sense that's what we thought yeah God forbid you own it and just be like yeah no I'm actually not as talented as I thought I needed to have the whole infrastructure of Sirius or XM Radio or whatever in order to have what I had.

I've learned that I can't build this on my own without it. And he's shitting on people for not wanting to work for no money, but yet he feels put upon. Anytime he's not getting as much money as he feels the current content deserves. So where's that attitude there, Opie? Yeah, are we just having fun when the radio station offered you $100,000

and just do it for the fun of the game? Yeah, good point. Last clip I have on here, and he's talking about how Opie, back even in the day of OP and Anthony, they'd have comedians on who wanted to be the only funny people in the studio. And so when other people had good quips, they wouldn't laugh at those. When you're saying something funny, there were people in that studio that refused to fucking laugh. Oh, I see. He's, he's, and it

didn't just happen to me. So relax you stupid hater. Cause I know how you spin everything. It happened to all of us. He catches himself immediately going, Oh, I know they're going to spin this. They're going to be like, Oh,i's complaining that they were purposely not laughing at his jokes Because that's in the back of his head at all times like oh How is the thing that I just said gonna be used on? Unique channel at WTB and again that he could marry Aaron like right he knows Yeah, he pretends he doesn't he doesn't bother him, but we can tell it does oh, yeah We can tell us what he's thinking about What is that quality that makes a guy like Jim Norton say something in a setting it doesn't. He pretends it doesn't bother him, but we can tell, it does. We can tell it's what he's thinking about.

What is that quality that makes a guy like Jim Norton say something in a setting, it doesn't go over the way he wants it, and he's like, fuck, I gotta fix that joke. And then Opie does the same thing, and he's like, you're all lying. It's a conspiracy, and you're all in on it. That's a good point.

So I've listened to a ton of Opie and Anthony, and then since then, whether it's Come Town, or Shane Gillis, or whatever, all these different shows, where you have a bunch of guys who are just cracking each other up and busting balls, you don't get to choose when you laugh or don't laugh. It's involuntary. It should be.

It's the given rule of comedians that if their mortal enemy said something funny They would have to admit it like that's just not how comics talk. It's hilarious All right, I prepared a second setter in John Sigmund because he was back on the internet twice this week I know it's too much. It is we were over two and a half hours in I I wanted to get to the Mike Kelta stuff. I have a lot to say about it. I have a lot of clips. Maybe we save it for Boston.

That would be fun, actually. We gotta save it for another time. I don't know if Boston is gonna be relevant to dickheads or not, but we gotta save it for another time, I think. Let me bring in my consultant on this one. Annie, what do you think? do we save this segment for Boston? The Mike Alta stuff yeah, yes, okay. Okay. Let's get a second heart. Yes. Let's get a second opinion Megan

How's it going? Oh, you're muted Megan hello, how's it going? Good. Good. Good to see you. I brought a hat. Oh, look at you with your Mets hat. You're competing with my Cubs hat tonight.

Now Megan has told me she's a Closet to Cubs fan, so I assume you do have a Cubs hat around there somewhere. No, I don't. This is going great. Maybe it's in the budget. Maybe we can figure it out in the budget All right We're gonna hold off on the Mike Helta stuttering John because we have an important game to play brought to us by our friend

Cardiff of course Megan has not won this yet. I'm gonna point that out again Pressure time. Yeah, right. So it's fine. Maybe this time. Maybe this time. And you've never won two minutes with time? I would like somebody to do a fact check on it, but I'm positive I've never won a single round of this. All right. Well, here we go. Everyone's lucky day today. Let's get into it. It's time for everyone's favorite new new game show. What do you say

ladies and gentlemen and Adam Bush? Are you ready to find the bomb playing two minutes? Did the $5 from Tom Myers always is that guy who has like five viewers and is trying to grift off steel? So too. God damn. I'm the man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm trying to grift. I'm trying to grift. Uh, you're trying to grift Aaron. That is all we are trying to do. I think we stream because we enjoy this. No, it's work. We all want to make a little money doing this. Tom always has the worst comebacks

and reminds me of the comment that we read on my YouTube video earlier in this show where Tom thinks that no one's trying to put on an entertaining show. Yeah. None of us are trying to do that. He's want people to give us money. We got tricked

them into giving us money, but I'll have you know, I'm miserable while I'm doing it. Yeah. And I also hate that. So if you're gonna give me more money, I don't even enjoy what I'm doing Take that I love how Aaron accuses me of grifting when he does like a whole His entire stream is just a big a thon and I don't get me wrong like I

Mean I'm coming on here trying to get my monetization, but He beats himself in arguments. It's amazing. He makes a point. He's like and by the way, I'm also guilty of all of that I'm an idiot. He had a good counterpoint to upset. Yeah, and his counterpoint has word economy. It's You know, I'm just kind of starting out streaming and trying to find my way. So, but yeah, it's weird. Aaron accusing me of doing the grift. Says, Aaron, do you know that the eyes and face

are two different things, right? Did Nick's man juice effect your already fucked up brain? Tom, I'm gonna tell you now. Let's watch the moment where he's been triggered again. Manjuice effect your already fucked up brain. Oh, see, notice that little... something switched inside his head and said, oh fuck I'm being trolled. No, he just realized he's dealing with an idiot he just runs up and makes zero sense he went okay and is I don't know if it's

you know his past coming back to haunt him but now all that little all the steel-toed lore catching up to him that's the thing people don't know that I don't pay attention to this shit What did Tom say next? Here your choices? number one It's beneath me B Maybe if you said something interesting I would

Next but I do keep tabs on stuff For Except when I'm trolling Next, but I do keep tabs on stuff. Four, except when I'm trolling. And lastly, I'm too busy prepping for my own show. And lastly too, you ate Nick's cunt. I hope Kurt put in the I'm too busy prepping for my own show for me, because I got a kick out of that one That's very funny

two minutes with Tom Okay, I always go first. I love the idea that he says people don't know that I don't pay attention to this shit But I do keep tabs on stuff. I'm going with next that that just tickled me because it's something that This idiot would say what do do you think, Adam? Yeah, I like Next too. It just sounds right because he's talking about how he doesn't pay attention to something as he streams Skyping, as he's watching it.

Yeah, he catches himself going, oh shit, but obviously I do, I better say something. What do you think, Megan? I'll go with Next also. Okay, were you feeling that from the beginning or Adam convinced you? I don't know. I'm just going to go with what you said because you'll probably win. Smart strategy. I want to be a winner.

Smart. Annie, what do you got? I would agree with Megan because that was a really smart decision there, but I'm going to go with B. Okay. And so she goes, if you said said something interesting I would pay attention to this shit Which would be also hilarious because he's paid attention to it. Producer Chris, what do you think? I went with four except for the trolley Okay, yep. It's no wrong answer here. He could also just say you ate Nick's cup just say you ate next come. Yeah, that's what I would have said. Oh yeah, well you ate next come. That would be the best one, which is why it's definitely two or four. Okay. I don't know if it's his past coming back to haunt him, but you know, all that little, uh, all the steeled lore catching up to him

That's the thing people don't know that I don't pay attention to this shit, but you know I I do keep tabs Okay, don't know who you are it's okay nobody does or not a lot of people know who I am. It's so you're good. And I'll be honest, you're a little bit of a creep. Oh, look, I will say that was the best rationale I've ever heard. Megan, Carl said it. So I'm going with it. Smart. Cause I have a winner. Fuck off. I don't like your sarcastic laughs, sir. Crushing it at this game. Who's fucking talking? Look who is talking. Look who's talking. It's just my initial impression. That's all.

I've never seen any of your work. I'm just saying you and I have never interacted before. Oh, we're going to interact. We are going to interact. We've only just begun. Oh, we're gonna interact We are going to interact We've only just begun I'm just gonna go with you're probably a weird internet guy, and I'm probably pretty goddamn accurate on that one What the fuck do you think you are I have no argument here yeah no argument whatsoever I'm just like yeah I'm a weird internet guy look at the

screen everyone here just call him balls and strikes this episode has been brought to you by patreon.com slash Cardiff electric and Cardiff electrics new YouTube channel at Cardiff elect this has been Cardiff electric and Cardiff electrics new YouTube channel at Cardiff elect This has been Cardiff electric your friend till the end. I Mean it's probably coming soon. I'm not really committing Sit Eugene sit good dog Let me just give props to Cardiff again. He did a show today talking about Chad's stream from this morning and he was celebrating the death of Ski Mask and so Chad acted like he was going to stand by that.

He didn't give a fuck and they took it down immediately but Cardiff thankfully reviewed that for us and did a fantastic job also It looks like Cardiff will be joining us in Detroit Yeah at the magic bag the magic bag comm September 12th get your tickets Cardiff will be there the spud shark We're selling point of them all Cardiff will be there and Dave Landau and whatever but anyway, why are you glossing over Megan's win on this come on Megan congratulations? Thank you first victory who else got one today Adam. Yeah

Top row right now look at us three winners. I like to believe that after all of this time We've learned something about this person. Yeah, it looks like a medal ceremony if I'm being honest about it What a medal ceremony? I'm being honest about it. Oh, what a medal ceremony? Oh, I was the Olympics medal. You know, I'm obviously in the middle with the gold As you guys can picture right now or in your head. It's that humble leader. We all admire so much That's me. All right. We got a lot of notes for each other after this show. I feel notes for each other after this show I feel damn straight. Guys, thank you so much for being here and supporting the show. We've had a great audience tonight. Daniel Poon, Ron the waiter suffers from redwood legs. Is that your observation on that, Adam?

I don't know what that is, but I'm sure it's correct. What is that? Redwood legs. I don't know. Different from club feet, maybe. Hmm. You have to ask Carl. That's not mine. Kft Wednesday shows rule. Don't watch Saturday shows. What no need skip them We're not gonna have you see on every Saturday guys. Come on Jim Larison 20 bucks. Hope Boston Detroit shows are amazing. Next show may be Chicago. I'd go back to Chicago

That was a lot of fun. That was great we went to the White Sox Cubs game It was one of my favorite events I've ever been to and I didn't watch any of the baseball game It was just not stop fighting in the stands Goat milk $5 says okay cool, but which recorder do you recommend for live interviews? I don't do them, but it's nice to know I could one day if Adam was available We're already booked we haven't set up on the

On the calendar, so I'll see you there look forward to it You can totally use a zoom recorder if you plug mics into it Yeah, you can use external mics. He was you I don't want to get into he's using a zoom recorder incorrectly It's how you record a podcast. Omni directional. There's uni directional. It's very boring. Yeah, he was you I don't want to get into he's using a zoom recorder incorrectly It's how you record a podcast how many directional there's uni directional. It's very boring. Yeah, let's not get into it here I noticed in the private chat Annie that there's two new reviews Do you and Megan each want to take one for us? We'll try to guess how many stars came in? Sure, I will take the one that came in from Canada. This one says Great stuff from son of boar

Thanks for mining this gold and sharing it with all of us That doesn't sound like they followed directions Sounds like it's just a plain old five-star review unless they're being sarcastic. That's true. It's possible You're right Carl. a plain old five-star review unless I'll be in sarcastic, but it's true. It's possible You're right Carl. Unfortunately at the five-star I'll take it. I appreciate that Megan can you find the other reviews at the top of the spreadsheet there? Or am I throwing you for a loop? I didn't I didn't Tell you this might happen. It's okay

Tell you this might happen. It's okay. I have it Megan has like one job right? This is it. This is the thing. It's a win at two minutes of time Oh, is it is this supposed to be funny? Is that the one any any says yes, okay? What did I just listen to these guys are about as funny as Mario Bosco is tall That's pretty good. Does he want a writing job? Is that the whole thing? Yeah.

I'm guessing that's a five star. Yep, it's a five. Nice! Well thanks guys. Don't forget to get over there and review the show. It helps with the algorithm, gets more people listening and watching, and we do appreciate that. Annie, people should check you out at Insanity.com.

Absolutely. Eventually I'm gonna start playing Red Dead again, probably right after Boston. I had some tech issues but I'm fixing them so I should be back up ready to go soon. Excellent. And Adam Bush, I know you've been producing some music lately. Oh yeah, there's a new record by an artist named Jamie Levine that's out right now. I encourage everyone to check out. There's a single called Real Nice Friends

and I will be in Boston at the City Winery on Saturday with WATP. Very excited about that. Yes, that's gonna be a great time. When you produce these albums, do you perform any of the music? Yeah, sometimes. I do. I'll get involved. Whatever's needed. I can play a lot of different instruments. I'm not great at any of them,

but I can play them enough to get through a song and if something's necessary, I can always hop in. We work with this guy, Doug White at Watchmen Studios, and he's like our engineer, but he's also the producer. He produces a lot of this stuff for us. And I remember going there in my early days and Sometimes he'd have bands in there, and he'd like watch the guitarist. He's just like all right hand me that I'll do this part for you like you can tell what he was trying to do And he just take it and play it sometimes. That's what producing is It is especially if the band's gonna. Let you do it then you should have done it right because time is money

But if you really cared about that studio you would wear their t-shirt on W ATP and promote them Yeah, he's like she's booked up. He's fine More notes for Adam after the show Told me not to promote his studio cuz he's booked out far into advance So he's what was that John used to wear on the Channel 9 show right? Yeah the I think that was a studio right? Yeah He's a instead of paying them. He would just wear the t-shirt It's a voice now this man to some voicemails, and then we'll get out of here Hey, Carl listen podcast, and I had to go to YouTube to

Find that skinny chat interview, and he looks exactly like I thought he would. I don't know where the pit is located in that apartment, but I know there's a Senator's daughter at the bottom of it and goodbye horses by Q Lazarus was playing in the background and there's a suit being sewn. No one wants to see in that apartment. So, what a neat guy. All right, shoot.

I just want to say for the record, my friend skinny Chad Zumach is very normal and well-adjusted And I don't like all these heinous rumors That are going around right? I love that guy, and I'm so excited that I'm staying with him at Boston Oh, are you guys staying together? Okay, can you please disarm him before he goes out to the show I? Will try thank you just pat him down for us. That'd be great.

King of Portugal calling in. And by the way, I can tell you this number is from Portugal. Carl, King of Portugal here. All everything. Great news. I'm packing up. I'm getting on the plane and I plan to land in JFK to go to Manhattan in like 10, 12 hours. You know what I'm going to learn in JFK to go to Manhattan in like 10, 12 hours. You know what I'm going to sightsee? You know what I'm going to try to find in New York? Do you? The great Gregg Opieus. And good news, I look like a fat Ben Margera.

Maybe I can make his life good old fingers crossed. Here we go. It wouldn't be great if King of Portugal becomes one of the tourists that obi tries to mess with When he's walking around the streets of Manhattan, please one can only help I'd be amazing He's gonna find that opi hasn't had a family for a long time Deluxe Calladah Charles deluxe. I think I know what kind of girls run the waiter has dated and I'm not kidding definitely tunnel bunnies they're still around but those are hanging around the tunnels in

New York City definitely a lovely crackhead African-American woman has gone down on Ron the waiter man he is fucking dude's got just the most annoying traits, the Boston accent and the whole super Jewish thing. Peace! I agree with all those sentiments. I just didn't think to take it into a sexual fantasy. I didn't picture him.

The super Jewish thing was probably not wanted. You know anything about these women that he's talking about Adam from that area? He's just talking about um hookers that are Hanging out for the bridge and tunnel crowd, but look nothing He said is offensive. Opie's the one who made that guy go out on the street and sing Fiddler on the roof. That's true He wasn't very good out of the turn out

No, why would he be? Adam Bush's career is now an SJ Focus podcast? Damn straight it is, and he's proud of it. America. Hey, I think you guys missed it when you were listening to the fucking John thing and the dude goes, you know, how did, I took her for a granite, and then he goes,

how'd you take her for granite? And then he goes, oh, I stopped sleeping with her. And the guy goes, that doesn't, uh, that doesn't mean, I mean, what he meant was, now I can't bang her whenever I want. I took her for granted that I had that piece of meat I could fuck all the time. That's what he meant. How'd you take her for granted? Well, I stopped fucking her. I wish she was still here so I could fuck her That's what that's what he came up with that fucking drunk loser All right later Vinny fat. That's interesting He took it for granted. Yeah, is that possible he agree with that? I Think it's definitely possible that taking her for granted was a thing for granted

definitely possible that taking her for granted was a thing. For granted was a thing that... I don't know what else I'm saying. God, it's making me very frustrated. It's like he knew he had to say that phrase to her and in therapy and maybe even his lawyer said, but he does not know what it means. So when he's pressed for an example, he comes up with bullshit like that. I think he does know what it means because he stares at all the empty beer cans and the fact that there's no dinner ready for him he goes this

didn't used to be how it was around here. But he used to sit when in his family we're all laughing with the wife and the roommate and everyone having a great time in the kitchen and he's drinking alone in the bedroom because he wanted to drink. I think he looks at all those cans and he goes smart decision. I think so too. I think he's like no I played my cards right. I don't know anything about this Ron the waiter jackass but I've been hearing you guys talk about him for past little while so I decided to look him up and somehow he looks just as fucking retarded as I figured he would. OP won't you stick a big cock up my ass?

What is up with that fucking voice? Jesus Christ. I don't remember him saying that but he has a card. That's for sure. Oh! I find myself mimicking OP's over the top voice to sometimes like I don't even care I know I do it too much now. It's not healthy And I know you're familiar with this, right?

Why do you have that Someone sent it to me in the mail cuz they hate why no, no, let me ask you about a question. Sorry Hey, Jen, why did you let that in your house? Maggie familiar with Sonic chew No, but I was gonna say it does look like Sonic but in a Pikachu face correct. It is Sonic. Yes It's invented by this guy named Chris Chan Who was arrested for having sex with his mother? Neither here nor there he'd transition to become a woman before he did that so it's fine

But there's a voicemailer talking about this Carl I'm listening to the latest episode And hearing you talk about this fucking son of a chumadallion dude, and I'm telling you Don't fuck around with that thing don't fucking touch it and whatever the fuck you do don't put it on I know three people who have worn that fucking thing. Nick Reketa, iDubbbz and Dick Masterson. It turns you into what you are not. It made iDubbbz into a huge faggot. Dick Masterson has a fucking wife and a child now for fuck's sake. You put that fucking thing on then the isotopes are gonna turn into a barbershop quartet

And you're gonna marry your dad. Don't fucking touch it. Trust me That's the most accurate voice you've ever had. I think you're right about that I Was talking to dick about this on the biggest problem about how we saw him open this up on the stream and I think Ethan Ralph was there and Vito just walti and they both got up and ran out of the studio like whoa We don't have nothing to do with that shit. I'm not superstitious, but if my life does fall apart. I'm blaming that

I think that's how superstition works right you wait till after the fact the honest is why that happened and then it'll be like Curls a wolf how he's played with this shit on Sonic 2 I'll be too busy taking the low octave And, uh, fuck anyone who doesn't like him. He's, uh, pretty good, I think. Uh, smishes. People don't like Hughesy? I don't know what reddit is. News to me.

Never heard of it. They're used to those, like, drunk British comedians that are secretly brilliant, and underneath all of that fluff are, like, you know, brilliant little poems. He's like the... just the drunk part. Without the poems, you just get the... I thought there was gonna be a compliment coming, but no. There was not. No, me too. I keep waiting for that that funny and then he just uh it just kind of trails off. Well gotta love him. This next voicemailer this is why Stuttering John actually is helping humanity even though

he doesn't realize it. Yo, Carl what's up? I think I have to um I have to thank you and Stunnery John for bringing awareness and clarity to my life. I hit 270 days of sobriety today. And I think it was because, I mean I know it was because of all the shit I heard about John. So, I saw a little too much of myself in there and fucking right at that shit. So, yeah, thanks John. Congratulations, that's awesome. 270 Days of Sobriety.

I've gotten this note from so many people who have said they watch Stuttering John on this show and go, I have to quit drinking. This is not gonna get better. And that's what we bring here on WATP. We don't actually follow those same orders. But we hope that others will. We like our lives. But it's definitely a lesson to be learned when you watch the show. Here's a question for the ladies of WATP.

Carl deluxe again, sorry. Would you rather for the ladies today the elephant man or Ron the waiter? Hmm He wants to go first Is that Fred the elephant boy no This is a different thing And I think it's the original film elephant one. Yeah good answer And I think it's the original film elephant one. Yeah, good answer. I'll go with Annie on that one. Okay, you're both taking the elephant man?

John Merrick. All right, we'll send you a photo following up on this. Gary in San Diego hasn't called in in a minute. Megan's neighbor calling in. Hey Carl, a week or so ago, John was all hot and bothered. He had lined up one of his attorney friends to go after both you and surely for violating his right to privacy. He had a cease and desist letter I think sent to you guys. Demand letter. And whatever happened to that? I haven't heard anything since. Have you received any lawsuits? No. No. What's going on? We might though.

Rock and Rolla. Gary I don't know if you know this we didn't play it on WTP but we did put together a response to that we read the the whole thing on point dabble point So check out point dabble point. We did have a whole response to the demand ladder for six hundred thousand dollars Yeah, it was fucking great. Oh good. I love that. Thank you. I played it for my boss my other boss He's like this this guy Carl you work for is a real prick Adam this one is for you, my friend. Hey, this message is for Adam Bush. I know you're probably busy getting interviewed by Corn Diff or something. But please, for the love of God, do not let up on this Fletcher Daniel motherfucker. This visceral anger listening to that fucking song you brought.

And he's thin-skinned enough to be like the folky musical Stingy John. I mean, as a Bob Dylan fucking fan, I just wanted to fucking strangle that goddamn song for fuck's sake. Just don't let him slide. Just keep at it. It's like Meghan Markle. You know, these people, these terrible, terrible people, they are terrible, absolutely terrible. Anyway, just don't call me back.

No shit. Thank you for saying that because honestly, I have not let up on on him and I encourage you to go to the comment section of his Videos my comments are starting to get a lot of attention I go on with these conversations with him that go on for pages and all my comments have like a hundred likes and all of him has none and It was a hundred and a none because everyone's trying to say the same thing to him that he won't get and he's doubling down on creating new New videos of the same clip of song that's annoying people He's trying to lean into it and you know that only makes it worse and I can't stop so I'm glad to know there's others

That feel the same way. I've gotten notes from people who have also said you got to keep talking about Fletcher Daniel. So that caught. You've got a new album coming out. There's something there. I haven't heard his old album. It's all new to me. I've only heard these same two 10 second clips that I'm obsessed with. It's powerful music. Maybe you don't get it, Adam. I do not. Yeah, maybe you just don't get it. But I didn't like a complete unknown so what's wrong with me you know? Fair enough. I gotta go bye. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. What a show we've been on for hours and hours. I didn't even get to all the stuff I wanted to get to because there's just too much. We got to start figuring out what we're doing on Wednesdays. We're doing it all. We're doing it all. We've done it all. We've doing it all.

Adam Bush was here. Adam, you're the man. I've learned it all. Always great talking to you. Producer Chris helping us out. Megan was here to read a review and win two minutes of time. Congratulations. Very happy for you. Annie, of Of course she'll be in Boston with us. I am so excited. I'm leaving tomorrow at like two 30. Annie, my bodyguard. Wait, you're flying, you're flying, right? Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. You say you're leaving tomorrow at two,

there I'm like, you're not driving to Boston. I hope. No, no, we want, we want to get in early so we can like hang out and do like the Boston cops live another Stupid shit before we hang out on Friday cool again. We got to figure out where we're hanging out on Friday night, but I'll get in Friday evening, and we'll go out and we'll figure it out so Annie do you know that you have your own? Couch or room at skinny chats has that been discussed or what's going on over there? It's a pit up What at his house? It's a lotion on your skin

How he lives I'm open to whatever I Don't I don't know anything about his house. I would be so fascinated to learn more about it. I've been in his show But we're staying at a hotel right across in the venue. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank God Okay, I thought I was gonna have a really long meeting after this Go fuck yourselves have a good week. Ah Carl. I love you A plane is hit right rewatch a Carly Are we done here I think we are welcome to who are these podcasts white power Shouldn't be this way.

It shouldn't be that way. No, it should not. Oh, boy.