Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep656 - Content Hotel, Opie, StutJo, Steel Toe

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

We’re joined by Drew Lane and Mike Wolters at the top of the show to discuss Howard Stern’s return and announcement that nothing has changed. Wow, Opie got that completely wrong (shocker). Opie is bragging about his math skills and being a celebrity in college. But the big reveal is that Opie is embarrassed about the mattress that was sent to Gebhard’s by a WATP fan for Ron the Waiter. Will Ron ever get to bring that thing home? Stuttering John reveals more about his lonely life of day drinking and bothering people. He brings on Clearwater Chad and when CWC sticks up for himself, John has no choice but to remove him from the stream so that John can argue with a guy who isn’t there. Adam breaks down the top 5 best and worst things about Chrissie Mayr’s Content Hotel. Then we discuss all the heat that Mersh is getting as he victory laps all over the internet. Aaron Imholte on Steel Toe criticized how I run my live show and agreed with Keanu’s take. Of course Aaron and Keanu are two people who really know how to put on a live event (that was sarcasm). Megan and Annie join us for another round of “Is It Gay?”, Cardiff submits a special “To Poke A Dabbler,” we read recent reviews, and listen to your voicemails.  Drew Lane's show - https://www.youtube.com/@TheDrewLaneShow/  Mike Wolter's show - https://www.youtube.com/@TDC_Podcast   Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I told them in the strongest of words to just do it. You see, this is a, we just do it kind of show. Episode 650-ish. Are you a boner guy? Oh, I was a boner guy. You know what? I missed penis. What are you talking about?

I'm the one who should apologize. Is it going to be absolutely riveting? Is it going to change your life by any stretch? Probably not. but it's going to be at least entertaining okay by the way for those people that are in the back remember to shut the fuck up shut the fuck up asswife and suck my cock i've been dying to say that cuz a row cause slaperoonie it's showtime W-A-T-P.

W-A-T-P. Hello, Robert Dix and Goods and News. Welcome to another episode of Who Are These Podcasts, the only show that sweeps for Chrissy more than Frank's parents' housekeeper. I'm your host, Carl, the $600,000 man. And, of course, with me every Wednesday, the man who's afraid of the microphone.

It's Adam Bush. What's up, Adam? I'm so happy to be here. How you doing, Carl? Happy to have you, man. Thank you. Producer Chris is here as well. Hey.

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Ron the waiter is getting noticed by everyone. Suttering John had to run away from Clearwater Chad, of all people. We have Adams' top five best and worst from the Content Hotel and some thoughts on Mersh's hot takes. Aaron Immolt says something that might totally destroy his HROs. It's crazy. This guy's running his mouth again. Also, another round of Is It Gay with Review Girl, Megan, and to poke a dabbler with Cardiff. But first, let's talk a little stern.

Let's talk a little bit of Howard Stern with a couple of radio legends. We're bringing on Drew Lane from the Drew Lane Show and Mike Walters from TDC Podcasts are joining us from Detroit. What's happened to Drew? Thank you. Happy to be here, Carl. And what a lineup of subjects today. Holy crap. I know.

The Dabbleverse just is always spinning around. So much going on. The Content Hotel really got me. I can't wait. Oh, my gosh. I'll be watching. It's the talk of the town right now, the Content Hotel. And there's three guys here who lived it.

Oh, yeah. We lived it, baby. We lived there. I might move in. Let's talk about Howard Stern. I know that that's been a big discussion this week. And if you want to get in depth with it, I was on who are these broadcasters yesterday? you know, Christian and Eric's show.

And we had E-Rock on the show as well, Eric Nagel. And we pulled a lot of clips and a lot of people talking about Howard Stern and a lot of the news media covering this Howard Stern debacle, I'll call it, from this week. So if you really want to get into it, go to who are these broadcasters. You can get the feed on any podcasting app or you can go to our YouTube channel, and it's all right there. But it started off with Howard heavily anticipated return. After all the news that was coming up in August, was he fired? No contract renewal.

We'd be going to Netflix or HBO Max. What's going to happen with Howard? Howard says, I'm going to reveal everything. All the truth is finally coming out. The day after Labor Day, Psych, the next Monday. So he comes back the next Monday, and he pulls this prank that, and Drew's a veteran of radio, he probably knows. It's hard to pull off something so clever and devious that it just fools everyone.

Andy Cohen comes on the show and starts out the show and going, I know you guys weren't expecting this, but it's Andy Cohen 100, Andy Cohen Radio. That's the new show format around here. And I swear to God, at least a half dozen housewives are like, what? With Howard's name still on the studio? Well, really? But remember, so we saw the video of it after the fact,

but they don't actually air that live. You're only hearing the audio. But they didn't dress up the studio or anything like that. If I was Andy Cohen, I would have thought, this is so lame, Howard. I don't want to do this. Could you pick another host, please? And he seemed like he didn't want to do it. We were pointing out because you could see that he didn't shave.

It looks like he was out partying all the night. The night before he probably got the notification at like 10.30 at night. He's just like, all right, no more poppers for me. We got a show tomorrow morning. He kind of looked like crap. And I don't know that he was all in on it. I guess Howard was bragging about it later. He's like, yeah, we wrote all those jokes in that whole script for him.

okay what jokes staff of 80 people that's what you came up with so Andy Cohen comes on for 15 minutes pretends that he's taking over Howard Howard is gone from serious was it even 15 minutes it was seemed brief it was about 15 yeah and then and then it went into the Howard's music and he came on and the big reveal now the crazy part is and I'll give Howard credit for this is that media outlets actually ran with it we were watching clips of CNBC where they're just like Yeah, Howard's out at Sirius. Andy Cohen's taken over his show. It's like, holy, how desperate people for the scoop.

They can't make one phone call or get a source on something. They're just like, yeah, someone's listening to the series at his car on the way in and he told us this. So let's run with it. Well, I got to say as far as they go, I don't know. Who would think, this is the kind of bit that Howard would just rag on. It's just so hack and lame. It's like a bad April Fool's thing.

Yep. Switching morning shows. I don't know. I just, after all this time. Wouldn't you thought they would have come up with something better than that? It shows you the lack of awareness because in his mind that's so crazy to go from Howard Stern to Andy Cohen. But anybody who's listened to the current version of the show means they'd probably just keep the same writers, do the same bits, and it would be the same show for the same audience.

That was kind of the joke, too. He's like, we're talking about Bachelor in Paradise and we'll still be talking about it. It's just like, yeah, Howard Stern's show is way gayer than Andy Cohen. It seems like the same target audience, really. Yes, that was something I picked up But I've been listening to a lot of Howard the last two days And I haven't listened to Howard in a long time And the callers, a lot of them are fake

But it's all like, even if they're real It's all just middle-aged women And Drew, I was blown away Because there was like a collar that calls said, oh my gosh Howard I'm so glad I got to talk to you Did you get the new VACs that just came out They haven't an update And I was like, I haven't got that yeah

But I can't wait I'm like this is what they're talking There's something like VATs Oh no on this show People are still taking boosters? I wouldn't have known that. I had no idea. I've never heard...

I haven't heard someone talk about getting a booster in three and a half years. I was like, oh, wow, that's still a thing people are talking about. Because, of course, Howard got really sick last week, and that's why he couldn't do his show, because he made the horrible mistake of going out in public with other people. Even though... On the one hand, I was just going to say, it shows how huge Howard was, not is, but was the fact that he could get that much news out of something that just lame and pedestrian. It was terrible, but, I mean, he did get headlines everywhere.

I don't know. It's not going to get them scripts, though, is it? No, and it's funny you say that because it was good to get Eric Zane's perspective on it yesterday and who are these broadcasters, because Eric comes into that show a little cold, I'll say, I don't think he'd disagree with me. And he goes, I didn't know about any of this guys. I didn't, and he's a guy who's put in the radio on his line. He's like, I never heard him.

I didn't know any of this stuff. So maybe in our world We're like, well, he's getting a lot of news But I don't think people cared that much I would have thought Eric would have At least paid some attention to it Especially because Christian Blatz We're going to be talking about Howard Stern

With Carl and E. Rock on Tuesday Yeah, but What's happening to who are these broadcasters, Carl? Isn't that part of your network? It is part of my network And Eric Zane, of course, will be joining us in Furndale, Michigan. Does he know this?

He better get out of a hotel room because, yeah, this Friday we're going to be at the Magic Bag. I'm so excited about that. So that's why we have Drew and Mike God are going to be joining us at the show. And I'll be joining them tomorrow on Drew's show. Yeah. Yeah.

So it should be a fun, fun collab. Fired up. The other thing about the Howard Stern thing that I just wanted to talk about. Because I feel like if we didn't talk about it, it's a little bit old news at this point, but we didn't talk about on WTP. There'd be a miss there, you know? So the big news was what's going on with Howard's contract? Because the story that leaked was that series is just going to let it,

let him go. They're going to offer him something, but it won't be enough, and Howard's not going to accept it. And so they'll be cutting ties at the end of the year. And that was the story, and then it turned into Howard's fired, and Howard's going to Netflix and HBO and all this crazy shit. And this is the news, this wasn't like rumors. This was like news media writing this stuff. So I called it. Opie was completely wrong. Opie said Howard's going to come back and announce this huge contract for another five years, paid him way too much money because the serious XM execs are scared of them. This is Opie's words. They're scared of them.

They're just going to pay, they're going to throw all this money at them. This is how dumb opious. He used to work for that company. He doesn't know that Howard brings in zero revenue and is not worth anything. And there's also, even if they did have a contract in place, there's no way they'd announce it in September. They would do no good for them. Never once has, and I've been following hard for a long time. Never once has he been like, hey, so we've been negotiating a contract.

And even though it's eight months out, I want to let you know, I'll be here for a while. You know, we're going to extend my contract for a while. You've got to build up the suspense. to get people talking and what's going to happen. It makes no sense to announce in September. Sirius was not afraid when Opie didn't have any audience left. So why would they be afraid of Howard Stern? He has no audience.

Great. Opie was taking photos of a guy taking a shit in the bathroom. Like, that's all we need. Get out of here. Opie told a story yesterday that I didn't include in the package about the time he asked the serious execs to set up a meeting for him with him and Howard. and he says they were so as soon as he said it their eyes went white and they got so scared he thinks they were scared to ask Howard he doesn't understand they were scared to tell him

that it's not going to happen and they didn't know how and he still lives there he still believes this yeah he still thinks that like howard runs serious xm and that was the other thing too the rumors that Howard hates Alex Cooper and Howard's big joke for that was like, I loved Alice Cooper in the 80s. It's like, Jesus Christ, what is going on over there? That word sounds like that word. This is what the writing staff is coming up with is pretty brutal. But anyway, as predicted by me and E. Rock and many other people who aren't brain dead like Opie,

Howard does not have a contract extension. There is no new news. He had a summer break like he has for years now. And he came back and didn't have anything to say. It's like, yeah, we're still negotiating and maybe I'll stay on serious. Cool. I have to admit, Carl, I was looking forward to the end of this in the beginning of Opie. That's how boring is told stories to me.

I know. It was so anticlimatic. And I was excited for whatever it was going to be. And then it was so predictable and so nothing. And Howard really had a chance to, like, grab people's attention because people were paying attention for once. You said you listened to a show the last couple days? How has this show been? Is it any better?

No. It's brutal. Any wacky knocks at the door? Yep. Yeah. So the new impression they have is the CEO of Sirius. And so she will knock on the door and they'll like, oh, it's the CEO, whatever her name is. Oh, it's a she, of course.

Yes. Yeah. And so she'll knock on the door. And her gimmick is she laughs like a wicked witch. Oh. She'll say a thing. She'll say a thing. Cool.

Is she trans? You're going to get that far into the episode to find out if she had a dick or not. But good question. I mean, nonetheless. So if I, there's one thing I know, it's that Drew has better instincts than I do. We should just move on to Opie. Oh my! Mr. Adam Bush, you were checking out our buddy Opie and what he was up to on the stream.

Of course, he had Ron the Wadea as his guest again, his co-host, I should say. Where should we begin? Begin right at the top, and I want you to, because he doesn't really mention it much, but what do you think of where he is? Hmm. All right, very, very, uh, Patrice hated you. Of course he did. I thought the kids had school.

He's got to get back to the city. He just had the parents. teacher night and now he's alone back at the ocean it would it would seem like he he doesn't really have a family or that he's not spending much time with them it's one or the other here yeah because I was surprised that he announced he was there by himself like we know that we're not supposed to right into the school year too doesn't that seem like the time when both parents would be home with the kids hanging out getting ready for the new school year and he announces, oh, no, I was just going to spend an extra couple days here at the beach house.

Yeah, that makes no sense. Well, Mike, he even said when he got back to New York City, he was just walking around the streets with his phone out and talking. He even said, yeah, so we're back here because the kids are starting school like today or tomorrow or next week or something. Yeah. You don't know the day they're starting school? That's why you're there. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I'm with Adam.

I think there's something really serious going on here. with this family. I don't know what it is, but they do not seem like they're together at all. They're in the trunk of the car, maybe? I don't know if I'd go that far. I know, are they buried in the beach somewhere? There you go.

Yeah. Who knows? Oh, that's why he was upset about that storm that came in because he didn't bury him deep enough. He's like, oh, shit. All right, very, very, uh, Patrice hated you. Of course he did, sir. Yeah, that's, that's going to be the thing you're going to go with today

that Patrice hated you. Okay, good. Good for you, uh, Gain. I hope your hate towards me makes you feel better today. Okay? Okay. You look like Gary Busey. Oh, no.

Oh, my God. That's not good. Oh, my God. That's not. I don't want to look like Gary Bucy. Let's say hi to Ron the waiter. What's up, Roddy? Hi, Gary.

Hi, Gary Bucy. That's about as much Ron as I can take. That's really true. It's a lot. Yep, that's it. All right. So I love how Opie still has not learned how to deal with comments he doesn't like. Isn't that amazing?

It's incredible to me that he always reacts over the top to things he doesn't like. And he just keeps getting more and more of that because people are trying to get a reaction. And I don't know how many people have told Opie this. I've tried to. I'm not really in his life. I'm not bending his ear. But someone should talk to this guy. I'd be like, yeah, yeah.

If you don't like something, just ignore it. Just let it go by. Turn him off. Turn him off. You don't have to look at him until the next day. Well, why have them up if you can't help but respond to him? Right, because he doesn't bring any content. So he relies on the chat.

When has he ever had a good comment or something funny that was like, oh, wow, that was worth it? Oh, that's funny you say that, Drew, because in Opie's mind, a good comment is someone going, morning, oh. Morning. Morning, Ope. Yep. I just had a cup of coffee. How's yours? Like, he thinks that's content.

It's weird, I noticed he had like 7,000 views in this video. You would think there would be a lot, hundreds of comments positive. I mean, with such a fan base. Yeah, if they were real, that's what would happen. The ratio is a little off of views to comment, as Anthony Coomia's pointed out a few times. All right, so he runs with this Gary Busey thing. He tells a story about Gary Bucci. And I remember this because this was early on in the Opie Radio Day.

days when Westwood 1 was like, hey, Opie, can you just, like, beat a studio, like, interview celebrities and stuff since you're Opie, you got a name, and then they gave a cubicle, which Opie was not thrilled with, but he did have Gary Busey on the show early on. No, he's, uh, I would, in my humble opinion, he's, uh, crazy and, and more importantly, scary. He beat me up, uh, during the podcast. He was, what do you mean? Like jokingly?

I punched me a couple times. He, uh, put me in a headlock and then, uh, okay, like, rough housing and then after the podcast next thing you know i'm on the ground with him wrestling i didn't want to wrestle like he is scary you know what i just realized watching it this time is that ron was just like i would love for any person to touch me like that oh yeah that sounds amazing rough housing you didn't want to wrestle he's getting a semi from that uh all right you know we we're gary bisona a few times and he was he was perfect he was a lot of fun actually is those weird anagrams you know where he'll say something and it means some long sentence and they were all they were kind of incredible actually I don't

I enjoyed him and I was thinking about getting a motorcycle accident myself that seems like fun it's a fun trick at a party to be able to pull that off sounds good tap that one little tiny part of his brain that created that but the rest of it was a little messy but he was very friendly yeah what's interesting is that um what Opie describes is what I recall Gary Bucy doing on the Howard Stern Show. Like they got into a tussle. They wrestled like his hair.

It's that one thing where they say you can see Howard's wig. Like it's all this actual off-camera footage of Gary freaking out and causing a real scene. But since he described such a intense, you know, interaction, he comes up with a great idea here next. I mean, he's a good guy. He's a great guest for a podcast. He told me great stories. Maybe I could find that episode and just throw it back up on my podcast feed. that's not a bad idea actually

well no need because we have the videotape right here let's see the first group you're ever find this okay good it was not very hard this is him punching Gary Bucy

okay yeah you bet you punched him a couple of times so here's that yeah it's gonna get violent all right of us yeah is being discovered now yes it is to be very healing where you don't smoke it you use it in baths you use it on

on your knee CBD brother CBD fist bump for that Oh my god I meant in a nice way That's the best video ever That was a good one

That was a good one You know what the good news is? I think you could fight You scare me Should we call the paramedic No, I'm good I'm good I just wasn't expecting it

I wasn't expected But I know all about the fish mom Yeah nice though Do it again So one more I'll show you he beat him up yeah wow it got real it got real violent i'm sure there's more too i could remember he mentioned that they were wrestling and roughhousing afterward and didn't he throw him to the ground

or something like that he said let's go to the videotape all right yeah let's see what he was talking about here i'm worried for the obster no hugged you love oh come on this shot oh my oh wait turn your face this way so the care you watch out that's it that's the whole thing he wrestled him to the floor okay we're not done i know we'll be here for now i figured i figured that out oh no that was the closest he could come to a story yeah what kind of anecdote is that he gave me a bear hug after the show yeah wow cool i think like john he's remembering the howard stern show has his own life i mean he's just making shit up right i think he believes that because he just doesn't have contact with anyone that's how he remembers

it. Well, it's also interesting that he's like, we got to find that and put it up on the feed. I got a note from Anthony the other day, Opie put out a video that Opie's not in of Anthony interviewing Hulk Hogan. I was like, kind of fucked up, right? He's just putting that up on his, and I don't think Anthony cares or anything like that. But I go, well, what if it was the other way around and you put out a video of just Opie doing something? And he goes, yeah, we never did anything fun. So why would I do that? Well, that's a catch 22, right? there. So we could ever work out this thought experiment to figure out what would happen, unfortunately.

Well, doesn't, doesn't Erock have his life's work? His life's work. Drew, where's your life's work? I don't see a bunch of tapes when I come over to your house. I actually have a lot of Drew's life's work. Oh, get it back. You're their life's work. What the fuck?

No, that's like Ringo, the Beatles masters are in the wrong hands, and Ringo's going, My life's work! It's actually nothing like that because music does live on forever. whatever, whereas a radio show is kind of like a, in the moment, it's a lot more. And Ringo's contribution as a drummer is undeniable. It's right there. What Opie's been trying to explain to us, as is very evident in that clip he posted of Hulk Hogan and Ann, is that Opie's presence is everywhere.

He's just not being acknowledged. Like, he makes these things happen even by his absence, and we just don't acknowledge it. Well, we also find out in a very stuttering John-esque fashion, how smart Opie was in school. school and how good he was in school. Anything else to set this one up at him? Perfect. Okay. I was taking

advanced classes my whole my whole like junior high I think it started in like grammar school. I don't know and I would get perfect scores and then the teachers would get mad to me because I would screw up one little thing and you know those really involved algebra problems

where it almost takes up the whole fucking board. I was on that level. I was on that level and then you miss up one. Oh my God. You're fucking. Matt Damon. And I mess up one bracket, so I would get a 99 or something, and the teacher would get mad of me.

Yeah, for real. But here's the goodwill hunting. All right. So I've known some math teachers in my life. I've taken math classes. Teachers don't get mad at you for getting a 99. What the fuck? Heburger!

99! Well, what did they do to Ron when Ron adds 700 and gets $1,300? What did they do to him? Oh, gosh. to get it to run's issues in just a minute. But I love that in Opie's mind, because again,

this isn't actually happened. This isn't what happens in school, that you solve a problem that takes up the entire board. It's a movie thing. And you don't get a 99 on it. Yeah. Show your work.

Your work was 99% there. It's a movie that the teachers have the time to deal with the 1% of wasted potential on this super smart student yeah like they're not just trying to get the class together and teach yeah yeah everybody watch opi solve the problem what's that like don't don't you feel like we would have known this about opi his math genius like of all the things he's talked about over the years over and over and over if he was really this whiz kid in math why are we just hearing about it now it's funny you say that

because opi would talk about this all the time he'd be like i learned all of this math and i never needed to use it. I don't know why they teach all this math that you never need. I went well, you're disc jockey and there's engineers and there's computer programmers and there's a lot of people who use math in order to do their jobs. That's why they teach it so that you can potentially

go into those fields. And I hope we could never connect the dots on that. She's like, why are they even teaching me math? I'm going to be shoving wiffball bats and girls vaginas. I don't need math for that. Well, I guess I guess measuring. That's kind of a math thing. But other than that. You know, math will come up on a show. I know Howard has made

jokes over the years about not being able to do math. And we've had math come up a lot. Bentley and I will compete to see you can come up with a number faster. If it's, you know, seven times 312. Didn't stuff like that ever come up on the show? Not that I remember. Right.

Not like you, Drew. You're a fucking whiz asshole. Drew is kind of an asshole. Bentley's really good too. But I mean, that's what I mean. Stuff like that usually comes up. I mean, where somebody will have to be a show off like me and tell you what the percentage is. No, no, no. You, Opie, who we're going to find out was just, like, the celebrity in college, like, just slacking off, didn't really care about the academics of it. And then you had anti-blue-collar tin-knocker guy. So, no, they weren't trying to impress each other with their math knowledge very often on that show. You're trying to impress people. I'm just trying to answer the question.

Fair enough. Move the show long. Geez. I think it falls to what you were saying earlier, Drew, and John does the same. thing where they're just, their past is so romanticized. They're this giant hero in every memory. And when confronted with just the slightest bit of resistance, like he gets here from Ron, they don't know what to do. The 700 SAT, I think, shows itself somewhere. That's really high. It's very high. We would know. So, yeah, Opie goes on to talk about how good he was at math. In a big time advanced math class. I honestly, I couldn't even tell you what the class. was anymore, so many years ago, I barely passed.

So I went from this high expectations with all the math teachers to barely passing my senior year math class. Sounds like you didn't put the work in. Brilliant observation. Well said by Rob the waiter. And I'm no mathematician or math guy. You're not. I don't think it was called advanced math.

Big time. advanced math or calculus or what specific kind of math it was he wouldn't just say music you'd say it was music theory it was jazz it was choir not a big music class yeah yeah advanced math I remember I remember taking bowling well you're the smart guy I think about it I took bowling also I got a couple credits it was an elective yeah counts yeah counts yeah Do you guys want to guess what Ron got on his SATs before we find out? He's going to tell us really quick. All right. Well, I already heard. Yeah, I think everyone knows.

This is out of 1600. So the SAT scores have varied over the years. I think they went back to 1600 again. But this is what we're talking about here. I'm not joking. Yeah. So I was never diagnosed with dyslexia. Do you know what my total score?

By the way, before I say this, I ended up graduating Mandu Kumlaude from North of University. do you know what my SAT score was total math in English total well you said something in there so it has to be very low I would say 800 total it was 730 730 yeah I got 730 on my SATs and it's like it's like it's like you know like like you know you like you have issues like I don't want to say the our word but I had I got 730 am SATs but I graduated man New Cum Laude from northeastern I didn't say much from Northeastern.

No. Jeez. I'm like, Gigi-G-G-G-G-G-G- Yeah. Don't throw us on the bus. Would you be bragging about us? Or talking about a 730?

That's, you get $400 for just filling out your name, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. I was actually not surprised at all that Ron the waiter is that dumb. I was like, yeah. Sounds about right. I've never met anyone who did that poorly on the SATs. I can't imagine what you'd have to do.

I've talked to guys who, like, got real drunk the night before were hungover. And they're like, yeah. So I only got a 980 or something like that. I can better to keep my eyes open. I wonder if that's how the doctors broke it to him if they were like, you know, it's like you have impairment. It's like you have a retardation. It is. It's just it is.

You have it. That's what's happening. How do you feel about being a waiter? Well into your 60s. What do you think about that? All right. So Opie goes on to brag about his collegiate career. and he went to Geneseo, a college I visited many times.

I had some good friends who went there. Oh, your bowling team took them on. No, no, that wasn't part of the bowling team per se. I went to some frat parties. We went out to some local places down there. But I didn't realize that I could have potentially been around greatness. Were you a DJ on campus? Yeah, I was actually, I actually was a, I was a local,

celebrity at Geneseo way before my radio career. Okay. We have to talk about this. College DJs. No, no one is a local celebrity in college radio, period. Thank you. Absolutely not. Because you're just begging people to listen to your show.

What is it? It's Sunday's at four. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely tune into that. Can't wait. Yeah, it comes in in Lee Hall. It has a hard time coming into, you know, some of the other halls. Burris, it doesn't come in so well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to go to your friend's place to listen to it.

But it's Sunday at 4. Go check that out. There's not a lot of talking on college radio either. It's usually a lot of music. A lot of music. Right. And also, who would even know who the DJ is? Right.

This is before the internet. He's not walking down the halls. People are just like, oh, my gosh, that's Greg from the radio. You'd have no idea. I lived with a couple of college DJs at Michigan State, and no one gave a shit. No. at all we didn't have 8 by 10s I don't remember that

right you weren't deciding not a lot of remote broadcasting back then drew no no we're doing a remote from my math class if you guys want to swing by why is Opie doing this why is he doing this why does everything have to be so great

what is it about I'm seriously asking I feel like he's big timing Ron the waiter it's been established a cry for help on some level yeah like I was really smart and I was really popular and almost famous before you even knew I was famous. I think, there I have it. I was something without Anthony.

Oh, there's, yeah. But he's also going through some type of existential crisis, and we've been watching this for a while where he's like, yeah, man, I could have been still famous like all the other people, but I'm a recluse, and you can't control me, and I do things differently. I think he's trying to justify in his head how he's squandered his career. Yeah, he destroyed.

everything he said, which no, he doesn't. He can't really come up with anything significant on his own. He didn't destroy anything. He's just not very good, right? He's painting it so that any failure he ever had was a choice. He chose not to win that math competition. He chose not to follow through on these things. Nothing ever happens to him, and I guess, yeah, that justifies the situation now.

I chose for a content hotel to suck. That was my idea. Well, that's better than acknowledging the truth or the reality, which is, Anthony carried him for 15, 20 years on that show. Anybody that listen knows that. And it's hard to come to terms of that. He has not yet. He still...

No. Yeah. And he won't. He talks at some point later on about the buzzing in his head. And I'm constantly reminded of it when I hear him talking now. All right. So we're going to talk about Ron's trying to school opia on some canaulage that he has. We're talking about wetlands.

really interesting topic for Opie Radio. They're all wetlands. Okay. What's the difference? I would say the level of water. Okay. So a fen is a wetland.

Did you think to yourself, you know what? This live stream is going so well. Let me fuck it up. I think this is interesting. You don't think that's interesting? The difference between a swamp and a mosh? A swamp and a marsh.

All right, sure, let's go. So a swamp, let's go to the phone lines. College, who do you think that it's between a swamp and a marsh? And before you start citing with Opie, and you go, yeah, Ron, that's a real shitty random topic. Like, Opie has no show. He has nothing in like four hours to kill. So he's just opening the phone book and reading whatever he can. And Opie is so fucking fickle that he's like, I'm going to shit on you.

you're a whack packer also I have no idea so yeah okay let's go ahead and answer that question open up the phone line yeah you're right very quickly he's just like you're ruining my show which there's easier ways to transition away from a bad conversation why are you ruining my show this sucks he's like do not want the answer like I kind of do I got no other idea so yeah we're gonna have to

well earlier he talked about E-Rock and almost dying on the air doing the cinnamon challenge and it's like you don't have the video to show people and it took me I don't know eight seconds on Google to find it and go, oh, that's what he's talking about. Like, there's some content. If you're going to go down that road,

Opie's still thinking about showing us the Gary Busey clips. He's still right. He might. He might if you find it. And the E. Rock story, there's so much hate he's enmeshed in. It's really hard for him a compliment because he said, he was a good soldier or whatever.

And then he's like, yeah, we didn't even talk. But, I mean, he's got his life's work, true. Yeah, that's true. That's right. I forgot about that. Don't give them too much of a couple. I'm getting over that. Well, I appreciate that the chat comes in, and they know what's up.

They can see what's happening here. What else is going on? Oh, my God. If you're saying that, that I'm going to end this thing. No, no. I find this very interesting. Wait, opi is so mean of this dude. I know.

No, Ron, don't agree with these idiots. No, it's incredibly impusive. I love this Ron Berman. He knows it. And the people, the people that watch these things on a regular basis, they feel the love coming from me as I yell at you, right? Is Opie gaslighting me? I don't feel any love at all.

I think that Opie's always big-timing Ron, relying on him for content. Hey, what else is going on? I didn't bring anything you have to. And then just shits all over him every chance he gets and wait until the reveal on the mattress. There's more to come on this front. Oh, there's an update on the mattress? Oh, yeah. On Ron's mattress?

Oh, excellent. Wait, can you guys enlighten me? I'm not sure what's going on. Have you seen Ron's mattress? No. Oh, it's... Homeless people have nicer mattresses. It's brutal.

And since we saw it on the air, Opie has been promising for months to get him a new one to the point where he just won't do it. And a fan of WATP sent a brand new mattress for Ron. Get parts, the bar, they hang out. And as far as we know, it's just been sitting there waiting to be delivered. Wasn't he talking about crowdfunding to get a mattress? No, we were. We were talking about finding a used mattress around the house somewhere.

That's right. He actually had a conversation, him and his wife, about donating some pillows, and then they decided against it. Which I'm familiar with, like, used cars. I don't think that there's a secondary market for mattresses. Can I ask, what was the occasion where he showed us his horrible mattresses? What was in the background, wasn't it? Obie has no material.

He's got nothing to talk about, and he's in his house right there. His mattress, Ron, is right below him. At some point, the camera falls down, and he shows it. You know, you see, he's like, what do you want? Opie, you want money, you want my book, take anything you want, chop my balls off. I don't care. He's just, like, happy to help. And, Drew, the mattress, it was so awful to look at because he has no sheets on it.

He sleeps on just a bare mattress, and there's stains everywhere, and it's lumpy, And when he complains about not ever sleeping with girls, you're like, yeah, yeah, you're not really setting yourself up for success here, sir. No, I'm just to point that out. Well, here's a spot where there's no stains. I clean this out with my spit this morning. What? Oh, my God, that's terrible. So, anyway, getting back to that clip, the chat's just like, you know, you're such a dick to Ron, and Opie's just like, anyone who watches us knows that we are really good pals, and I watch a lot of this stuff.

And I can tell you that Opie has no respect for Ron. and Ron is trying desperately to earn his respect and it's never going to happen. Yeah, if Opie's not gaslighting you, he's trying to gaslight Ron. Yes. Right.

He's trying to convince someone that they have a real relationship. They do not. I know I read too much into this stuff and my gift is to just suck the fun right out of it. That's my wheelhouse. However, there's something real fucking disturbing

about when Opie reads the chat says I'm mean to you. And Ron goes, you are. And Opie goes, no, I'm not. Don't say that. Tell him I'm not.

That's disturbing shit. That's like when CSPS show up to the house and they're like, are you getting fed? Is your father nice to you? And the father's like, tell him how nice I am. Show him. Show him how nice I am.

Well, he did score 730. So if he wanted to manipulate him like as a child, he could probably get away with that. Yeah. Can I put two things together here? Yes. The mattress without, of course, with the stains.

Wasn't he kind of suggesting that he can't control his urine stream terribly well in the Yeah. Yeah. You're not wrong. Oh. So would that maybe one of the reasons the mattresses? Did he pee in the bed? I don't know.

Yeah. Or leaking. Yeah. It would add up. Yeah. I thought I remember that from the stream today. He said something about he couldn't hold it. Yeah.

Oh, he definitely did. Sorry. It just gets worse and worse the more we learn. They are pretty good friends, though. He does, he spends time out at the lake house, right? Oh, no, no. Actually, he wants to get an invite, Mike. and Opie refuses to invite him out to his house

in the Hamptons. Weird. In Opie's defense, though, he would definitely be looked at as a suspect if he was walking around the Hamptons. There would be police called. There would be a problem. We didn't know he was with you, Hero.

Carry on. He was begging for a compliment about his haircut, too. His hair is not exactly his strong suit. What is his strong suit? question perfect answer waiting on tables

maybe yeah all right I like the way he says Dick clack Dick class like Dick C-L-O-C-C Dick clock you know

getting back to the waiting tables thing maybe he's okay at it but when he was playing with that sore at his bare foot in the bar I'd be like can I get a different server is that like

I don't even that ugly chick even that fat ugly chick over there and probably be better that's okay I'm on break Perfect All right So there's an insight That Ron has here

Adam do you want to set up Clip 12 Let's just hear it Okay I got the music in me If that doesn't put you in a good mood Obviously I'm in a good mood Today because I was listening

To the new radicals Right before I turned this on I feel like you're in a good mood Because you're by yourself on the beach Away from all the noise of the family That's what I think No no it's not the family Ron It's that fucking

city i think obi just confessed that the family's never there yeah yeah i don't have to worry about the family anymore ron yeah i don't worry about the family making noise in quite some time they're a real quiet ron underton dummy there is no family yeah yeah like they were they were banging on the coffin for a while but that sounded a little bit i got a soundproof trunk i don't worry about there he has to know people talk about that right like yeah is missing family. Ron does. And he's picking on him right here. Yeah. You think so? I do. That's ever since he got a free mattress from WATP he watches. And I would too because it's confirming what he suspects that this guy's really, really cruel to him and that he deserves

better. And we're here to tell him yes. In case you're wondering, it's true. He's a monster to you. But also, Mike, Opie knows that we talk about this too because the chat tells him. Oh, yeah. That they're concerned about his family. He's just like, we decided a long time ago. My wife's not going to be on the stream. Don't you think you'd ever walk by in the background and wave high? Like, oh, you're doing your show again or hire somebody to do that.

Yeah. Put on a baseball hat, wave in the background. This is creepy at this point. He can't even come up with a recent relevant story. Like, he talks about seeing movies with them and it's movies from a decade ago. He doesn't know what day they go to school. He doesn't mention an interest they have, like pop things come up. And he's not like, oh, my kid loves Olivia Rodrigo.

Like, he's just out of touch and out of their lives. Drew and I went to a baseball game a week ago. I'll go back on my show. I'll have three stories of conversations we had. Like, in one outing, like, it just seems weird. You're right. You're so right. There's no relevant stories of, oh, the kids did this.

And yet, the wife did that. The HVAC guy, Gary, there was like 82 stories this summer. He's a part of our lives. Like, we spend time with him. Right. Oh, is that possible? Not one with the wife for the kids? Nothing. Whiffle ball on the beach?

Throwing the ball? Nothing. Does it have to be whiffle? Even the hero story. Even the hero story where Opie saved his neighbor's kids' lives. Like, his kids were out, and then they were immediately gone from the story.

Yep, so they were out there, and then they went inside. They didn't see any of this. And then I went and saved these kids. It's just like, really? There were no witnesses in here from you. your family for this okay yeah we heard more about the liquor bottle he got yes we did than his kids all right well um they started talking about ryan seacrest at this point and uh adam anything we should set up on this one um no just like eric saying it's it'll be fun to hear his thoughts on radio

people he started off like you in radio he still does a radio he's he's from that side of the business where we all hate he started off in radio he started off in radio and radio he's he's from that side of the business where we all hate. He's driving off the radio. Where it's safe. He gets all the big celebrities, but he's getting nothing done. It's nothing edgy. It's nothing where people are going,

oh, my God, did he hear Ryan Seacrest this morning? It drives me nuts. Opie, hold on. That's a lot there. All right. So Opie, Ryan Seacrest is just like you. He started his career in radio.

And Opie's going, yeah, but he's a lot more successful, so I have to make an excuse for why I didn't get there. I think Ron knows too. I think at this point Ron knows what, you know, triggers him and he's playing into it. Let's start with what does OPEE mean by we? He goes, we don't like guys like that. Who is the we he's referencing? Is it people that no longer speak to him that he hasn't had a job with for years and years,

that he's still stuck in this delusion that he's still there? What is this we? And when he talks about, you know, content that's edgy, what does he think he's doing? What does he think this show is? Yeah, there's a, remind me, when we talk about him going back to Sirius, there's a thing that Ron says about censorship. Because Opie censors his own show. You can't swear on his show. Ron will bring up something about sex.

Like, yeah, whoa, whoa. So there is nothing at you going on. What does Ron bring up about sex? He's watching a porn. Oh, okay. Is he trying to put something out there like, hey, I can still be the clean guy on radio. I'm irable. Yes.

Is that what the goal is? Yeah, and Mike, just recently, he started wearing nicer clothes because he was dressing like, shit, and he hasn't gotten today, but whatever. But he started wearing nicer clothes, and he even says someone about, like, the powers that be, or someone was telling him to clean up his act. I don't know if it's a manager, an agent, a dead wife. I don't know who it was. Someone was telling him to dressize him.

On that show, though, isn't Opie the guy that moved things along that got him into commercials that dealt with management? Early on. in the career of that show. No, but he claimed to always be steering the ship throughout the... But for his contributions... Or derailing it.

He's more like the Ryan Seacrest of Rock Radio because he doesn't really do the hard stuff. The heavy lifting is Anthony and Jim. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he goes, yeah, he's not edgy enough. It's because Jim Norton was it the third bike. Exactly.

Right. And say what you will about Ryan Seacrest. He knew his place and what he was good at and stayed in his fucking lane. But he's broke just like Opie, right? Oh, no, by the opposite. He has a lot of money. Wildly successful.

Lives life on his own terms. Doesn't ever see Ron the waiter. Ever. I don't think they've ever met. Can you imagine Ryan Zincres and lose her friends? I got to go down to the pub and I go and fucking Rod the waiter. I think Ryan could have a Jamaican nanny if he wanted one. Right.

Yeah. All right. So, uh, Ron is a great question. question for Opie regarding Ryan Seacrest. Why didn't that happen to you? Why did you translate to television? Because I like to blow everything up, Ron. When are you going to figure it out?

Okay. So that's one of those rare occurrences where Opie is actually self-aware and doesn't blame everyone else. Now again, it's an excuse. Yeah. And it's like, well, I decided not to have a choice. Yeah. It was a choice. But at least he didn't say

management, Jim Norton, Sam Roberts, Anthony Coors would be. Yeah, like all of the different things that he always says that ruined his career. But when did he blow everything up other than taking a picture of somebody in the bathroom stall? Isn't that the only time he blew everything up? Probably the homeless cake. He almost blew things up then. Yeah, but his radio career is still going strong at that point. We were talking about this with E. Rock on WTB yesterday, where he blew up his career when he decided to take the

summer off right before contract negotiations and lost the morning show he was just being a douche and not negotiating with serious and not being around and so they're like all right i guess we'll give it to jim and sam and then have the morning show oh be coming at three well we'll see you that man but trying to wield power like without anthony at that point wasn't that what he was doing there it was like yeah you don't have anthony anymore you don't have negotiating power i was going to say if he was still doing a great show like he was He could have taken the summer off and we've kept the morning show. Yeah, for sure.

All right. So, Opie actually ran into Ryan Seacrest at Starbucks. And he's going to give him a piece of his mind because he hates this guy. Right. You get it the wrong way, asshole. You're too safe. He's going to show him. He's going to let him know.

All this is festering for a long time. I really want to say something really not nice to Ryan because it drives me nuts because we're in the same business. And I'm like hustling every day. And this guy is handed multi-million contracts one after the other. And then you look and go, what does he actually do for this money? But anyway, so. So I walk up to Ryan Sechrest, right? Here's my moment, you know.

This is this shit that I probably should admit because I want to cause a scene with Ryan Seagrest. He sees me come and, he goes, Opie. He goes exactly like. Oh, we stoked the ego. Oh, my God, he knows who I am. And next thing you know, like, hey, Ryan, and we have a nice, a lovely, a lovely conversation. Oh, my God, your best friend. We take a picture.

Oh, my God. He recognized you, and it all went away. I like that. You're like, I love him. He knows who I am. Like that. See, it's so easy to charm Opie. It's just like Suttering John.

Like, the way that Vince the lawyer just charms him. goes, oh, John, what you did yesterday was so funny. Ha, yeah, okay, yeah, you're right, you're right. You just manipulate Opie just by being like, dude, huge fan, you're great. He was going to lay into Ryan Cigris. That Ron sees through this and points it out to him, and Opie's kind of realizing this in real time. Right there. And he says it was festering.

Yeah. Like, he was festering in him, this hatred. And here's my moment. And all it took was, hey, Ope, disarmed him completely. I hope I'm not offending either of you to, but I think that, Ryan Secreys has had a better career in radio than either you drew or Mike. Do you guys like hate this guy and want to punch him in the face when you run into him? No.

Of course not. Of course not. It's so weird. I understand why Opie resents him because he's just non-controversial. You could never go, wow, that Ryan Sechreis bit last night on AI was fantastic. He's not that guy. He does a different thing. He wears the right clothes.

He has the right hairstyle. He has the look. and he's very smooth. And he knew his audience was, it wasn't our audience. There wasn't any competition. We would never compete with him. He was going for a certain market and he did well with it. Good for him.

I'm not going to say I respect him that much. I don't think it takes tons of creativity to do what he does, but he's picked a great path. He's done really well. How can he be mad at him? Exactly. And he's apparently a super, super hard worker. Tuch worked with Ryan for years and was his like personal sales guy.

one point and said he's one of the hardest working guys in in all of L.A. I've met a few celebrities that are wildly successful. I'm sure Adam has, too. They all have the same trait. They're super hard workers. Yeah. That seems to be the common thing with all these people. Ryan was one of those guys that wanted to stay away from anything that could be perceived as

nefarious or like Ryan was the guy to leave early from the bar. His gay impulses. His game passes short. He was like, Atsteed Island, not for the full weekend. Maybe for a nice. Good move.

I'll pop by, but that's it. Smart. Didn't he work so hard that his eye popped out? Do you remember that? I don't remember that. Sechrest?

Yeah, he had like a stroke in his eye, like, popped out. Can that happen from a stroke? Your eye pops out? Something on camera that they attributed to he worked so hard that he had been up for so long. Yeah, you should see it.

It's very disturbing. He looked really, he looked really weird for a couple days. Yeah. Interesting. Something was off. It shows you how thin-skinned Opie is because just what you described, like Opie and Anthony's career was based on creating morning radio where you didn't know what would happen next.

Ryan's brand is, nothing unexpected will happen. This will be the safest thing every corporate sponsor can bet on. And still, he's threatened by this guy and completely humbled and won over by him knowing his name. Yes. And Opie thinks he's in a war that he's not even in. Yeah. You know, Ryan has no idea that he's in some battle with Opie. So Opie tells a story about Howard Stern.

And he's talked about this before, but, you know, with Brother Wees being forced into retirement, it seems, recently. This is kind of a relevant story that comes up. No, listen to me. So, I mean, it's not really a rumor, but I'll say the rumor is Howard Stern, after a lot of therapy, he decided to make amends with some of these radio guys that he went after. And he called Brother Wees. And he apologized

to Howard's credit. He apologized to Wees and an awesome conversation that lasted about an hour. Wees told me that Howard said, man, I would love to take you to dinner if you ever in New York. That never happened, but you know, I believe Howard meant it.

And Wees knows that I put myself at a really shitty spot by by you know uh by going after howard because of weez's daughter wees always knew that put me in a weird spot so at the end of the conversation um wees goes to howard what about my boy opi and uh harrow goes i swear to god this is the exact quote for brother wees it's been told over the years uh Howard said of brother weez i'm not ready for opi Why should he have anything to do with that story? Howard made fun of his, something was wrong with his daughter, right?

And Howard made fun or something like that? So Weez has a special needs daughter. And when Howard came into the market in 1995, he went hard in the paint about Weez's daughter. And Rochester is one of the markets like Detroit where Howard never cracked the number one spot. Wees remained in the number one spot. And I think that was part of it.

There was very sympathetic towards Weez's plight. and the fact that Howard did that was shitty. A lot of people perceive that as really shitty. And so Howard is now making amends with these DJs and what he would do. So he calls up wheeze and goes, dude, that was fucked up. I can't believe that was my approach to trying to take over Rochester, yeah. And so Opie at not the same time, but years later, was really ragging on Howard's kids. They were playing audio from a play that Howard's daughter was in, where she was naked.

it in it and there was like a lot of really personal shit so here's what opi like is not explaining here is that Howard feels bad about what he did to whee's opi should feel bad about what he did to Howard and he's going why am i not getting an apology uh what i would be embarrassed to even be mentioned in that story right we have to do a really a special needs daughter and opi come on did weez really do that i don't even believe he said that that's so stupid i believe that wees and opi are very tight they're very tight I think they're tight enough that

that wees could say you're going to call Opie yeah and Howard just laughed and walked out the door and Wees is like I can't tell Opie that I got to come up with stuff he's not ready yet he means so much to him it's going to take him some time right I sure as hell wouldn't repeat the story if I was Opie

well it sounds like he's repeated it numerous times yeah I've heard that story a bunch so Ron hears that and he goes well maybe you can make amends with Howard and he's got a wild idea what could happen give me the odds what are the odds that maybe you reach out to how if something happens and hey if you reach out to Howard and said hey man let's clear the air would there be a chance you could go back to serious XM I don't I don't know would you want to go back to serious XM

I mean it would be great it would be great but yeah No, the reality is, dude, I don't have, I don't have the poll I used to have. So the amount of money they would offer me would be insanely ridiculous. Wow. And that's it. So, you know, I'm in a different spot. So it's, I think that ship has sailed. I know, but what do you?

I mean, if they didn't offer you that much money, what else you're doing? Just take, take the gig. And then for me, you can build. Get that platform going. Then you don't have to be, we don't have to be censored. No, I don't know. No. How funny is that?

Ron goes, then we don't have to be censored. So there's a lot of conversations about what he can and cannot talk about. And it's because, like we were talking about earlier, obviously, Opie's trying to impress the FM brass to get back on morning radio on terrestrial radio. And so Ron's going, we should get a job in Syria. And then I can, like, tell the stories that I want to tell. And we can have some fun with this. But it's crazy, Opie's response to if somehow you and Howard became friends. he could get you a job back on Sirius.

This isn't the Bub of the Love Sponge days. Howard's not looking to fill a slot on Howard 101. There is no job that Howard's going to bring in another DJ for. And Opie's response should have been that. But instead he goes, I don't think they'd offer me enough money. Yeah. He doesn't have the show to justify any reasonable salary. And I think Ron in that instance thinks, hey, we're a team, man.

Get us on serious. We're going to kick ass. I was just going to say, do you think there's any chance? that miracle were to happen and they were to offer Opie a gig, he'd bring Ron the waiter with him. He won't invite him to the beach house. He won't invite him to the Hampton.

He's not going to visit him at work. I love this dynamic between them too because at this point now, Ron has been lonely and broke and dreaming for so long that he gets to look at Opie you don't even know how to fantasize right. In your dream of

getting serious XM back, your fantasy is that you pass on it. because they're not offering you enough. He's like, come on, put yourself in the seat. We could do a show. Just, this is how you do it. And he won't let it happen. It's so sad.

Ron's dreaming of the days of being able to afford a new mattress by himself. A new sandwich, yeah. Or sheets, or sheets. Sheets to go on the mattress. Sheets. Imagine the thread count I could get on some new sheets. 200 easily. So, Ron, and I think Adams wanted to point in this out,

Ron promotes himself when he's doing comedy shows as Ron from the Opie and Ron show And so in Ron's mind Opie talks to Howard Howard says We gotta get you back on serious Stock price is gonna go through the roof And Opie says all right Ron You're with it's you and me let's go

Fuck Matt from Gevards You're my co-host down here By the Opie's never called it the Opeed Ron show Only Ron does that Right does Opie know it's called the Opean Run show by Ron? He does not now I mean who knows

He's probably not even following him on Instagram. No, that's certainly not. So, we're an hour and nine minutes into the show, and Opie explains he's got to go. He's a busy guy with a lot going on. First of all, it's not a possibility. I'm not going to sit here and make believe it's a possibility. All right.

Ron, I got to go. All right, Ope. I got to get a car into a dealership to get the tires rotated and the oil changed. All right. Well, grandpa, you do have a big day. Fascinating. Ron has no follow-up questions. Well, he knows what that means.

Opie uses that line. Okay, Ron, I got to go as his way of saying, I don't like what you just did. I don't like how that made me feel, and I'm done. Because Ron pivots, and they stay on for another 45 minutes. Yes, that's the amazing part about this, is that that's not even close to the end of it. But wow, that's a brilliant analysis on your part.

He brings up Howard Stern and getting back to Sirius, and Opie's very uncomfortable with all of this conversation. All right, Ron, that's enough. That's enough of that. Now, he's got to go. He's got busy plans, but Ron suggesting they compare thumbs in this next clip last for about a half hour. Suddenly he's got nowhere to go. Look at you.

You got a schvata thumb. I got a crappy thumb. I have a crappy thumb. All right. I do. I have to. We're talking about crappy thumbs. I have to throw my nail on my thumbs to make it look like I have a thumb.

Yeah, yours is back too. I got that exact thumb. Look at all right, Ron. By the way, that's what it looks like. Yeah. All right, Ron. That's what it looked like when the peepee was coming out. All right, Ron.

All right. All right, Opie. Hey, are you doing a Gepparts? Oh, I wanted to talk to you about that, actually. Oh, so that's where Opie cuts it off, cuts off the stream. Are you doing a Geppard's? And then this is Opie's fun way of being like, yeah, about that. You know, hilarious.

The thumbs thing was cool, but yeah. It doesn't seem like an important ending. But our buddy Adam Bush is a sleuth. Adam, what did you find? Well, I listened live, and I remembered there being one more sentence that Ron said before it was cut out. But I looked at, because since Opie posts like three different versions of the same video on his different channels, I checked all of them, and they all ended there, except the audio one, which had this extra line that I'd like to play for you right now. All right, Opie.

Hey, are you doing a Gepardt? Oh, I wanted to talk to you about that, actually. About the mattress? Whoa. He cut out his buddy Rod going, yeah, what's up with the mattress that someone delivered to Gepard's? needs to get over to my apartment and Opie does not want to talk about this mattress. It makes him feel like a real

shit head. Maybe Opie needs a mattress. That's my mattress, motherfucker. Oh, that's funny. Could you imagine he steals the mattress from Ron? I mean, I don't blame Opie. I mean, God, to think this person

who's calling you the Opian Ron show has a mattress that looks, I'm dying to see this mattress. I got to send you a I can't you miss this. True. You're going to love this. What could be more horrible than that? Sleeping and Phil?

It's as bad as any mattress you see. Sleeping and Phil. Seriously. It's often. Yeah, it's disgusting. What makes it particularly gross is when your friend, supposedly, and co-host and boss wants you to live like that. Yes. And has the power and the ability to vary.

Or is okay with you living like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's more than okay. It's preferred. He wants it. Yeah. So why does, why does O. cut that off? Does he then have to

reference who are these podcasts providing a mattress? I don't think it's about us. No, he offered, he really did make a big show. It was one of those things. I'm going to get you a mattress, Ron, and he would bring it up. He would bring it up, but after four or five months of this, we stepped in. I

started by reaching up to Ron and offering him one, and he was very gracious. Oh, I bet. He was, but he wouldn't give me his address, which I kind of understood. Don't give me your address. So when I announced that, one of our listeners, just sent it to the one address we had on them, and even left a note saying,

something like, I know Opie or you live near this address, maybe Opie can give you a ride to move it from the bar to his house. And Opie won't talk about it. He's embarrassed. He feels like he's been usurped in like this good deed he was going to do eventually. He just never got around to. He's the kind of guy who wants credit for things he thought of doing but didn't do. He wanted to be the hero again.

He liked how that made him feel. and we got the best of him again because we want his friend to not sleep in filth Wow Oh that's embarrassing It's so it's so embarrassing Great find by Adam

Let's see if I can find the mattress for you That's incredible Yes Oh well done To think that he went by and cut that out of All of those streams Because he didn't want people to hear it That's a lot of effort

That could have been placed towards your career maybe Making a better show Coming up with bits I don't know Hey were you guys going to talk about all the things that Opie says are gone now? His Jamaican nanny Oh yeah

The security Something about that His driver That was incredible Cleaning lady Even his VIP gym membership He can't afford that That's a lot of stuff

He is so cash poor And you would think he would just sell One of these properties at this point What's he waiting for? Hell yeah By the way, did Anthony ever have security Because I thought security Opie thinks he needs security, really?

I don't know the answer to that. If anyone needs security, it's Anthony. He's pissed up a lot of people. That's what I thought. But I hung out with him all weekend and he had no security around him. A personal chef? I mean, he really was living high in the hog. Does he know it's hard for people to sympathize with him

when you have a view from a penthouse of the New York skyline behind you? Like anyone watching knows how those problems could be easily solved. And also, the fact that he like, wants a $20-hour super chat and gets very excited about it. You know, who needs a $20-hour super chat is this guy. I'm getting sued. Yeah. But no, it's truly weird.

Like, he wants to turn this into like making money and he feels good about it when he gets five bucks. And he's like, yeah, see, I'm going to, I'm employed. I'm doing something that makes money. But it's like, dude, when you talk about what your lifestyle used to be, this is really pathetic. Yeah, he made a big deal about saying, I lost all my money in fame. And he rattled off.

And I know that makes you happy. I know that makes people happy. that I've lost my fame and money, but he has a house in the Hamptons and he's a house in a condo in Manhattan. Yeah, that's pretty rich. Oh, that's a weird mentality. Anyone who's happy that someone else is doing poorly

is a loser. It's a weird way to live your life. It's a horrible mentality. It will not get you very far. Confession, I might be a little bit of a loser. I was kind of happy. All right, Drew, we'll score that more on your show tomorrow. Do you guys

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I kind of do, yeah. Oh, great. I'll watch. All right. All right. So, so John is bothered by by everything. Everything bothers him.

And he's so transparent about it. know about it. So right out of the gate on yesterday's episode, people are putting owls in the chat. And so John's going to get out in front of it. He's going to put owls in the chat himself and declare that it stands for love. Because it's definitely doesn't mean a loser, right? It's definitely people are putting elves in the chat. He's totally reinvented what this means. Let me put some else in the chat standing for love. You should know I'm all about love. Love peace and harmony.

Scoke! Oh, he's been saving up. Long day today, long day. Very long day. Very long. Very long. Let's go back from the gym. Took a shit. A shower.

And that's about it. Oh, okay. Busted his ass. How was that a long day? I exercise, I shat, and I showered. That's about it. That should be like a morning routine.

He came out of five o'clock. He came out of five o'clock. Like a vacation. Now, what I think is that he had a long conversation with his attorney? But what do I know about any of that? That's what I think he's talking about. That was it. Yeah, that's all that's going on.

How much is it going to cost? Anyway, then he starts his show off by going through his fantasy football results. He pulls up the screen to show you that he beat his opponent in fantasy football. It goes through which guys did well for him. What a winner. It's so insane. I bet he doesn't even know the people in his fantasy football league. I didn't even think about this.

It might be losers from the bar, but it's also possible he just joined a random Yahoo League just to be in a league. Maybe a free league. Well, he'd be talking shit to the other people in the league, wouldn't he, if he started winning? Right. Oh, yeah. And we would know their names. He'd be like Spider Joe came in again with this fucking, we would know all about it. Yeah, or you know, it would be great as if John was just like, yeah, Oscar didn't have a good draft.

You're like, maybe his kids are in the league with them, family members. None of that. None of that's going on. But he's still bragging about it. So that's good. So John talks about his day yesterday. That was very weird. And I want to hear about what a weird day is in the life of John Melendez.

Had a great day yesterday. It was so weird. what in the pubs that I go to him. Okay. Wow, that's so weird. That is weird. You had a day drinking at a pub that he's a regular at? Weird.

Sounds like the best day. This guy is such a lonely barfly. And I think when it comes to Opie and John, you can point to loneliness as like one of the biggest problems they have in life. And it really shows when they get on their show and start talking about their interactions with other people and what they're doing with their lives? And I was hanging out and it was getting like, you know, it was getting kind of boring.

We're arguing over if Aaron Rogers is going to get hurt or not. I said he's going to be hurt. And this guy that's a steel affair, no way. He never gets hurt. He's the Iron Man. Yeah, okay. So he's having an argument yesterday and he's still having it today without the guy he was arguing with about it.

Chris, ask me if I think Aaron Rogers will get hurt or not. What do you think? I have no idea. Oh, right? How would you possibly know? That is correct. What a dumb argument to have. Do you think this will happen in the future?

Maybe. Do you think you'll be talking about tomorrow? Nope. Is this really a weird day yet? This is this weird day. Yeah. Very weird. But in his mind, other people talk to him like,

that's other people talking to him, John. That's you. That's how you sound to anyone else. But when I hear about John's day through the lens of John, I can kind of decipher what's really going on here. So this guy's just watching the game. He's a Steelers fan. He's down in Cape Coral.

And John's, oh, you know, Rogers is a bum, right? Because Rogers is the right politics for John. So I know exactly what's going on. He's turning this. He's turning into a political conversation. Well, you know, he's just going to get hurt because he's MAGA. You know, the guy's going, I don't know, man. I'm glad they picked him up.

They needed the quarterback. He could actually throw the ball to these receivers, you know, whatever. And so this guy just probably gets up and walks away from John eventually. He's like, I'll watch the game from over here or something. So then John has to be like, well, now who am I going to talk to? Oh, the poor bartender. So I started talking, you know, chewing his shit with the bartender and a couple of the folks in the back. And, you know, a couple of people by the bar cost the Dukes to go sent the team.

gaining at the bar. So talking to the bartender and a couple guys in the back. The only people that will talk to him are being paid to be there. Yes. Yeah, or people walking by. Yeah, that's what he just described. This is a guy who's day drinking, watching, actually, this was Monday, so I guess he wasn't even watching football.

He's just arguing about it. He's watching Sports Center. Yeah, watching Sports Center showing the fantasy score he had. Yeah, check out my fantasy team. A couple people accidentally walk in there. He was like, no, wait, come back. You haven't even met him. me yet.

I'll sign an autograph, fine. But he also says he's always putting on a show. And this is the thing that Howard complained about, and I heard people from the Tonight Show complaining about, John thinks he's always putting on a show and he's never putting on a show.

Even when he's doing a show. He was doing a show. Especially what he's doing the show. So here he is pushing people away. And I'll never forget when we had Pat on here who used to bartend and have

day shifts and we were showing him clips of John getting kicked out of a bar. He's like, oh, I know this guy. Oh, yeah. And anyone who's been a bartender or who had a drinking problem for 20 years knows this guy. This is the guy who's very lonely, shows up the bar, and just starts talking to randos around him about anything and everything. If they're looking at a TV screen, he'll talk about whatever they're looking at. If they're texting with someone, he'll look over their shoulder, be like, oh, you're a

Steelers fan? Like, it doesn't matter. Yeah. They're going to find a way in to a conversation. it's like fuck I gotta talk to this asshole and then it gets so bad everyone gets away from him

and so he just starts talking up the bartender and the bartender's like but you don't even tip man do I really have to they put out a smile though they try their best so then

you know I can't remember you see he starts telling this anecdote because I guess there's a lot of Philly fans in Cape Coral I've not observed this but I don't go out to bars every day and drink so he's talking about the Philly fans and how awful they are and I can't remember if John is like a tough guy who settles differences with his fists

or if he brings frivolous lawsuits to people when he gets annoyed with them but maybe he'll explain this to us so I start walking slower and slower and slower and a stage manager looks at me and goes no John don't John, don't. So I turned around in typical Duke fashion. I walked up to the biggest guy there. And I said, what the fuck did you just say? Say that.

Say it to me again. Okay. Say it to me again. What the fuck did you just say? And the guy was, he'd be scared. He'd be scared. He was explaining when he's wearing a Yankees hat. into the Eagles game

and people were talking shit and so John was just like I'll take out every person of the stadium I don't think that happened I don't think that happened the way he's telling it if that happened

wouldn't we've already heard about it 20 times? Yes. Right, right. But John loves to pretend that he's a tough guy and so he goes on to talk about how shows

like Point Dabble Point and who are these podcasts, maybe Tookie Soup. We can pull clip and laugh at a guy. John calls it bullying. But he knows that he's tougher than all of us. A bunch of these dudes, like a little gang of people, you know, bullies, you know. It's like when they have five or six guys on a screen to bully one guy,

when, you know, when you know that if they ever had an altercation with me in person, you know, they wouldn't be so tough, you know what I mean? They wouldn't be so funny, but they won't. Yeah, Drew. it's crazy that John can still say this after Rocco Burrow went up to him and asked if his son's ever creeped in his face. That was very funny. And also the altercation earlier that weekend

where John went up to Patrick Melton, Patrick just stood there, just like, I don't know, man, what's going on? And John had a run to security. That's my personal favorite. That's my favorite, too, because Patrick is so tall, and John is so tidy. And he was not a tough guy at all. He went to security.

And when Rockwood did his... when Rocco did his thing, he just ran away. So this idea is just like, you guys think you're all tough and you'll say shit to my face. Like, yeah, I've seen examples of it. Say that to me three more times. Yeah, by the way, that's a guy who's not serious. Dick Madison calls these people

nipple rubbers when they just get together and just want to rub their nipples together. I'll fight you. I'll fight you. You know, no one wants to fight. It's so obvious. Do you think John believes this? That's a good question. John believes himself.

Doesn't he just think it's important? important to... I don't think so either, Adam. To create the image that he wants to fight because he shows up at people's houses, like Rush up at Patrick Mellon's house. Is this who he wishes he was? He wishes he was this guy that... Yeah, but he's not. He's stand up for himself and he was tough

no matter what. But he's not. He's a pudgy little... He's out swinging in front of Patrick's house. Remember that? Yes. Oh, who can forget. One of the greatest things ever, yes. So, what you're asking, Mike, is what's his level of self-awareness?

how delusional is he and I go back and forth at this I think he is wildly delusional he might think this is real that he's a tough guy and he was ready to take on all every Eagles fan in the stadium he can't though

if he really thought he was tough he wouldn't go to people's houses when they weren't home yeah yeah that's true he's creating a barrier between him and Melton when they finally confront each other in Vegas or in that casino You know, like, he runs to hide behind that guy and to come up with excuses.

He doesn't want that. I did a gig not too long ago with this guy who was on Dancing with the Stars, and he's a straight guy who's a straight guy who's one of the most competitive winning Brazilian dancers in the world. And what's crazy about him is you look at this dude and you wouldn't know. He's just a dude. Like, you don't see that he can have, like, ninja samurai control over his body. because he knows he can. He's a competitive winner. He's just sitting there.

He's not reminding you every second about how he can do this. John's putting on this big show showing everybody. That's not what people do when they can actually. Yeah. Great point, Adam. Even in his own story, there's guys talking shit to him. And John's around him to be like, say it one more time. Dude, if you're a fucking tough guy, you don't need to be said one more time.

Don't you? Some of your hash, let's go. He would have told that story. a million times before. He just remembered that story. There's no way. Well, he was winded telling this story. He was winded, re-acting it.

You guys are so wrong. John is a tough guy. He was at the gym, and he is... That warm out, yeah. He is ripped. Well, I did take a show, too. If I don't pump, they don't look as big as they do. All right. I pull that clip because he's flexing his muscle. And listen

to what he says there. If I don't pump, they don't look as big as they do. If I don't pump, they don't look as big as they do. What does that mean? Huckered your muscles not look as big as they do. Think about it, lady. All right, I don't think about it. I'm confused.

What the fuck? He's working out every day. Maybe he gets liquid courage. Maybe he gets a few drinks in him and he does turn into kind of a tough guy. And people just walk away. It's not worth it. And he thinks he's one, yeah. Yeah, I think it's what's happening at the bar when he's talking about Aaron Rogers is going to.

pull a hammy. Yeah, he's five beers deep. Right. All right. So Clearwater, Chad is in the chat, and he wants the link. He wants to come on the show. Maybe get some super chats before we get into this. Clearwater, Chad. Why the fuck am I going to send you a link?

So you could recite lines that two could give you to disparage my family. Is that why? Is that why, Chad? is that why okay so let's get again but let me tell you what happened here so clearwater chad was on john's show and rocko aka touki was it sent him questions to ask john and so he told him to ask john if his son ever creeped in his face and what clear water chad said because he's a simp and a slow he said uh i have a question from someone did you ever quefe in your son's face.

And that's all it took to set off John to be like, that's fucked up, man. You shouldn't be talking about my son's face and my queafing like that. The way I quefe is my business. Right. Yeah, yeah, how dare you ask you a question like that? So John found out that Rocco was the one feeding these questions.

So he does send the link to Clearwater Chen, but John needs an apology. Hey, Chad. Hey, hey. Thanks for having me on, John. if you recite any tuky shit I'm gonna fucking punch you I swear to you I won't John I appreciate me on

you know what I mean I was you know what I mean well how about apologizing for doing that Chad well I did apologize I do apologize it's just that the bedabbler network is the cornerstone of our community aside from Kevin Brenner Brennan

yeah you can't even spit out his name you fat fuck and you know what dude you know stop fucking kissing up to people if you want to be like if you want to be cool don't kiss up to No, the Dabbler Network is the court? I mean, is he paying you to fucking be his fucking cuck? Are you a fucking puppet cuck?

Yeah, just answer the question. Are you a puppet cuck or not, Clearwater, Chad? John can't even get Dabble versus A-lister's on there. It's so sad. It's so funny that John, we're talking to Clearwater, Chad, and no offense, of Clearwater, Chad, but he's not the fastest gun in the West. and the fact that John's going, I need an apology from you.

He's such a child. You go apologize to Timmy. You apologize and let him know you're sorry. Needing an apology is the biggest waste of time in the history of time wasting, aside for frivolous lawsuits, but you get my point. It's so stupid. And Clear Rock, she's like, yeah, all right, I apologize. Whatever.

What does this prove? What does this do for you? I think of all of Frank Calyendo's wacky characters, Clearwater Chat, is my least favorite. Yeah, it's not his best one. Can he be madden for a minute? I know he's been dead for a while. Yeah, that's better ones. More energy.

Frank Caliando does him. Cool. All right. So, this is, John explains what the definition of success is as he yells at Clearwater Chad for being the puppet cock that he is. Are you a fucking puppet cuck? No, he's got a lot of great stuff he does over there. Yeah, yeah, he's so successful.

Name one TV show he's been on. Tell me one radio show he's been on. In John's mind, the only definition of success is John's career. Yeah. If you weren't on a radio show or a TV show, he even goes on to talk about record deals. It's the only way you can be successful. How many content who tells you about to?

That would be what I say. Got everyone beat on that front. Have you been a writer for the Coramuel Jabarost? You're right. It's just like, John, there's other things people can do. And, you know, the fact that he's talking about Rocco is not killing it is ridiculous. There's one guy who's on the decline. There's one guy that's out of the incline.

And those paths crossed a while ago. You know what I mean? It's one way above the other. But what was Rocco's crime, by the way? Was it writing questions to? Yes. So providing content. It was actually provocative.

Provocative questions. Right. Provocative questions. Okay. When he appeared on Conan, I don't remember him turning to Conan and being like, did you write all these? Yeah. Can you prove it? But also, John doesn't want anyone on his show that's going to confront him on any level.

You have to come on and kiss the ring. He watches this happen with Kevin Brennan. You can't go on MLC and call Kevin out and beyond very long. You have to kiss the ring. And John feels that he's on the same level as Kevin Brennan. You come on, you kiss the ring. There's no reason why you should be asking funny questions that rocked. wrote for you

and he gets very upset that Clearwater Chad isn't worshipping John Clearwater Chad is going around saying that a lot of people are good at stuff. I mean how many asses do you kiss in a day? You know what? I'll tell you what, you should just kiss ass instead of you don't have to eat. Just keep on kissing

ass and get your nutrients that way. Good one. Because all you do is fucking kiss. Everybody else is fucking ass. And every fucking show I do you ask for a fucking link. Why, Chad? If all these guys are so much better, why, Chad? I'll wait, I'll wait, I'll wait.

Can I answer that since Clearwater Chad doesn't understand? The reason why he asks for a link from John is because John sends him the link when he asks for it. And then acts like this. He doesn't ask me for a link because I would never send Clearwater Chad the link. I kicked Rich Boss off my life show. So it's a very different phenomenon as far as what John is doing. John only likes guests that should kiss his ass

because they're nobody's. Yeah. Yeah, he's the Duke of the Dabbleverse and you should come on and be like, I can't believe in mind your show, John, this is so amazing. He wants everyone to be nasty Neil on the show.

I shouldn't say that. That was mean. Nasty deals great. Anybody watching this interview can see that like the big Hollywood winner is the guy turning red and about pop and the trailer park

loser is just calmly smiling enjoying the show. Yes, this is clear our chance. Best appearance by far, as I'm going to demonstrate. And Adam, you bring up really good points that I forget about. If you just had this show muted, you would know who the villain is and who the hero is. All of these shows, it's so clear, so obvious. And John's just always just ranting and raving and spits flying out of his mouth and he's just all upset.

It's just like, no, that's not the good guy. I'm pretty sure. Seems easy. When you go to the dog park and you see. two dogs and one of them's acting like John and the other one's saying like, Chad, you know whose fault it is. Well, John really does think that

he's the cream of the crap and he's not even the same category as a two-key. Are you actually going to put me in the same category as those fucking loses? Well, you got to admit, they have great

shows. O.J. in the morning. I don't have to admit. You're just a ball washer. That's all you You wash the balls But people like that Well, I will say that when Tuckie was doing his top 500 guitarists of all time It wasn't as good as John's presentation Did you guys know this, Drew?

John's been going through, so Rolling Stone at the top 250 guitarists of all time John's been trying to get through that list for two and a half weeks He keeps going back to it, mispronouncing names, that don't know anyone is. What happens? He gets distracted and he stops the list? I think he gets bored. I think we all do. Just like, wow.

And this is before this, it was a, who is the hottest bond girl? And then he can't pronounce any of their names. Right. He literally reads the most boring wisticles on the internet. And he's like, this is content. This is why I'm head and shoulders above Tuky. No, it's really hack stuff.

Should watch Tuckie show. He's really good. To be that mad at Clearwater Chad is crazy. How could that guy possibly make somebody that mad? What? All right. Well, we're going to find out why he's so mad at Clearwater, Chad, in this next clip. And Alon is revealed about where John's at.

Why not first apologize of being a fucking asshole and saying bad shit about my family? Why not do that first? Why don't you apologize to me? No. Who's your first blood, fat fuck? I don't think he was very nice to me in the next past couple months. So I think it's kind of... Yeah.

So did I ever say anything about your... anybody in your family I'm asking you did you did docks my information no no no I did not that's anti you and soaping me yeah but you're trying to you're trying to go through back channels and sleeves oh right fuck this for the win right there thank god he stood up for himself i was i was watching this when it was happening live was like this is fucking fantastic i'm so happy clear water chad usually just meke he just goes okay sorry my bad he says oh hold on a second what do you mean drew first blood are you kidding me with this? He'd been fucking nothing but

a dick to me. He's like, what do you mean? He's like, well, you docks me. Oh, what do you, what did? I mean, I did, but you got to bring it up. You insulted me first. You did something bad first. First blood is I love that he goes to that. Like, oh, well, that, of course that you're going to do whatever you want to do. It makes sense.

Mr. Hollywood, at best, a draw with Clearwater, Chad, at best. No, Drew, I'm telling you to clear victory, John had to kick him off the channel. He couldn't even have an argument with him and confront him directly he ran from clearwater chad this is a new low and being insulted on a talk show like the punishment is doxing right we're even now we're even really in an interview with

clear water chat he found out john stuff about his ex-wife stuff about his sexual history and then mocked him for weeks about it on the air off the air just kept reminding everyone about this guy's sexual history and all the things he didn't want out there and was so gleeful about it. How Chad could be so calm. Oh, well, he's slower, but like how he could just keep his composure while talking to this clear

monster was very impressive. I have a stupid question. When you docks Clearwater, Chad, does that many people call him and bother him? Well, so... In the dabble verse, this is the one place where people will hear that number and do something with it. And they got spoofs and they got

robocalls and they can and will. fuck with you and and someone like him I feel like even if they won't the fear of that is real you know he's a dad there's concern oh okay he's also got a couple of different jobs and people are trying to docks his employers and stuff like that

just leave these fucking people alone but in Drew's point his name is Clearwater like it's in the name we're halfway there well what I love about this and this is what proves that John is a child and lost an argument to Clearwater Chad of all people is that John kicks him off

and then continues the argument without Chad being nice. Of course he does. Oh, you did, you did Docs? No, you started it. This is the problem with this fucking whole universe. They can do it. I do something in retaliation,

and then it's on mine. It's on my shoulders. You're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites. And that fat fuck, he's the one who drew first blood. Not me. Not me. Fucking dickhead.

I feel like this has been better if you left Chad on the show. He could have been having it back and forth. They would have made your show better to have him back and forth with this guy. This is what a burrow-wissa. John is. He has to kick a guy off his screen and then yelling him about who docks two first or who drew first blood. You don't understand the business lady came. Right, yeah.

I'm obviously not. It was not the greatest diatribe when he kicked him off either. I think he's only lost by more. doing that and you know john it makes it really hard to believe that when that guy gave you crap about the ball cap you were wearing that you scratched the record turned around took out your switchblade looked him right in the eye and just gave him you know until he backed down when clear water chad through zoom in the meekest voice possible said well you might owe me an apology too.

It was too much for you to even handle. John could not handle it. This is a simple that he's talking to. And John likes to yell over people and just like get this energy up so he wins the conversation of the argument that way. He couldn't even bring himself to that. He was not expecting that.

No. Because Chlorichet never pushes back on anything. Right. He doesn't have any credits how dare he pushed back. Right. Exactly. Wow. He was only a writer on the. Kareem Abdul's your bar wash. He wasn't the head right.

Right. So this is John talking about doxing, which I think he actually feels bad about that he did this because that's when Clear Rancher brought that up. He's just like, go, go, go, go, go, go. I don't know what's saying. And then they got to go, well, you docks me. Prove it. Prove how I doxed you.

What did I, what cryptic message did I write? How did I fucking docks you, you fat fuck? How? How? That tweet was not doxed you. seeing you. It was a very cryptic thing. Nobody would know who the fuck you

were. Sounds like he knows exactly what he did. Yeah. He knew it was cryptic. He knew it was a tweet. He knew it was doxing, Clearwater, Chad. And he's like, prove it. He was just on the show. He basically says he deserved it because he drew first blood. Yes.

Correct. But also also, as a true narcissist, if I did it, it wasn't that bad. If it was that bad, then he deserved it. Right. Right. and if you don't know what I'm talking about I'm just going to keep talking and tell you all about it Right

Is fat fuck a big insult Coming from a fat fuck Well Fat of fuck You're a fat of fuck He would know Clearwater Chad When he first started like

Making the rounds He would go on El Hariblay show every Saturday morning He was eating like 10 hot dogs at a time I don't think making fun of him For being fat gets to him You know what I mean People call me fat I'm like oh I'm gonna exercise tomorrow

I'm going to skip dessert You know I processed that kind of thing This guy's just like I'm going to eat hot dogs on a live stream So I think he gives a shit

All right Oh This John's still arguing With this fucking guy Even though he's off the air I could If I really wanted to docks you And docks your job

I would have But I didn't I didn't Because I'm better than you I'm way better than you You fat fuck So enjoy another Arby's fucking roast beef. Sick burn.

I don't think that's the braggy thinks it is to be like, I could have doxed you better if I wanted to. Yeah, but why would you want to? Why are you doxing anyone? Why do you know their personal information? Why do you even have that information? Clearwater Chad, I've met in person. He lives in Buffalo.

He's not far from us. Jesus, Carl, you're chill. Oh, my God. He's actually going to be in Detroit. He's coming down to the Detroit show. I've never asked him what his real name is. I don't give a fuck. I'm not sitting there going, oh, I know personal information about this guy.

Why would you even think that? He should probably file a lawsuit against Clearwater at this point. Yes. You know, we're getting to that point. He probably should. If Clearwater Chad could handle having another Arby's roast beef. Right. Is that really the most fattening thing?

All right. So, again, Adam, to your point, John makes himself look like the villain. I could have been much worse. Yeah. It's like his comeback to like, hey, that was pretty shitty what you did. It could have been much worse.

Why are you thinking that way? Yeah. He's a constant reminder that the villain never thinks they are. They know in their heart they're the good guy. Currell, why'd you beat your wife? I could have murdered her.

You know, she's still alive. I saw mercy. Thank you. Mercy. Appreciate it. Finding people recognize that. I mean,

what would be the point of putting out a tweet that no one understands? Why would you just do that? and then why did you know exactly what he was referencing when he said it? Right. You do not come across looking good with this. All right. I played this on probably Point Dabble Point.

Yeah, Point DeVo Point on Monday. We played where John was threatening Vince the lawyer with revenge porn of Vince's wife. He's got like nudes of her. And he's like, oh, what if I send these out? And blah, blah, blah. And the chat's like, by the way, even threatening revenge porn is a felony. And he's like, I don't have anything. I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah. Well, so a chatter, a chatter, a chatter. brings this up on a show. First of all, I don't have any news of Lori. It says, Did you apologize to VTL for threatening Lori nudes? And Dwarfie knows that. And that was just me kidding around with Dwarfie,

because he was kidding around with me. And, you know, Dwarfey and I are cool. There's no revenge anything. So good luck with that. And he knows that I adore Lori. know what I ever do anything to hurt her. Okay. So he's excuse is that he was joking around with Vince.

I'm going to play that video that we played on Point-Dabblepoint. He seriously got a problem. He's on the spectrum. I'm telling you, he doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. Do you want me to share your picture of Lori, Vince? You want me to send that? How about the one you showed me in Jersey, Vince? of our freaking privates.

You want me to show that? What are good jokes. Wow. He's just joking around with his buddy Vince. I've always wanted a friend like this. Yeah, right? It's pretty fun. Wait, Vince showing him nudes of his wife?

According to John, yeah. It sounds serious. Yeah, it sounded extremely serious. It's very serious. There was nothing joking about that. There's nothing joking. I remember a sales guy at WAAF showed me a nude of his wife, unlike my first day. I swear to you.

Were you in front? bizarre. Yeah, was she hot? She was hot, but I mean, it was like, why did he do that? What's going on here? What do I don't see it? Actually, the only good thing about VTL is that it's like 50-50, there even is a lorry. Right.

And that they're married. And he probably showed him like a picture of an actual beaver. Oh, my God. Look at those prizes. You want to send Rocco that, Vince? You don't think I took a picture when you were in Ibren and showed me that? I mean, again, he just does not come across looking good at all. So this guy, he's like, check out my life, she's so hot.

John pulls his phone, I was like, whoa. He just comes off looking terrible in all of these things. Although, Drew, did you take your phone out and take a photo of the sales guys? No, I didn't, you know. I was going to say, John took a picture of what Vince showed him. That's what he's saying. That's what he's claiming here. Okay.

Does he not realize how bad that sounds, what he just said? He doesn't. Does he not get that? He doesn't. He's about to. That's incredible. That's amazing. And then the fact that he, a day later, some guy goes, hey, so what are you doing with those nudes?

When are you going to do somebody? He's just like, I was joking. I was kidding around. We're just ball busting over here. What do you mean? No, that was in no way getting around. Nope. Sorry.

Nope. Did he say he was going to send it to Rocco? Yes. Now they're allies working together. Yeah. Amazing. His mortal enemy from 30 seconds ago. If I know anything about Vince, he's sending those photos to Rocco.

Vince is trying to get to Rocko's good graces for years now Rockaway has no credits Why would you send it to him? Good point, yeah Anyway, so then it goes into Boss, even threatening revenge for as a felony

and then John walks it all back So we don't have to get to do that I just thought it was funny They pretended that he was joking around I have one more clip for us And I save the best for last Because I know, Drew, you follow stuttering John Mike, you're following the stuff

We all love beer math, John we all heard a lot from it and this is a new one on me you burn his balls chad may you look bad clear water chad may you look real bad drunky first of all I've only had one

beer well I'll beat a 25 ounceer which equates to two beers and one ounce but I'm at 30 minutes in Therefore, at least a half a beer has left my system.

So we had one beer, but it was 25 ounces. And he's able to understand, which I was impressed by, that that would be 12 and 12 and 1. Pretty good. And six ounces have left his body. Well, he didn't say six ounces. He didn't get that far. Six ounces worth of alcohol.

No, no, no, you did that part of the math. You filled that in four. We just had a half a beer. Have a beer, yeah. Whatever that is. How much that could possibly be? I just love that it's constantly, he has this rule in his head that if he's drinking, how many beers he drank, it's actually way less of that.

It's amazing. I've never seen that conversation at DUI stop. Right. No. How many beers you had today? Well, I'm sorry, I've had 17. But I started drinking at three. in a half hour and now it's 10

so let me do the math for you and it's a great metaphor for how he lives his life you see 12 empty beers on the table and you're like you drank 12 beers and he's so immediately mad at you for not understanding that that's

not 12 beers we all know that's whatever fucking math thing he just did right there is he talking about taking a whiz no or is he talking about it just like yeah so being absorbed into the system. Okay.

You dumb fuck. I don't think that's going to work in a DUI style. To your point, Drew. You guys have been so generous with your time. I want to thank my buddy, Drew Lane, and Mike Walters for being on the show with us. And of course, the

Drew Lane show, everywhere you listen to podcasts, you can find that four days a week. They put out a new episode, and of course, the YouTube channel. And we'll see you tomorrow, I will be over there. But subscribe to Drew Lane's YouTube channel. He puts out some really great content.

And if you like laughing at jerks like we do, you'll find a lot of that. You have cop cams. You have all the good stuff going on. Yeah, Charlie Sheen this week. Philly Karen and a bunch of stuff. Oh, yeah. Sorry, you're not coming at him.

Maybe next time, I hope. It sucks. Definitely. Geez, you got to maybe look bad in front of my friend like that. Drew, God damn it. I didn't want a chat will be there. Let me give you his phone number. Yes.

I know you're yelling at him a couple days ago, so. He just, he hates the microphone. I don't understand it. We're trying to do a podcast together. And Mike Walters from TDC podcast, who made the trip back to Detroit to be with us this weekend and hang with the gang. So thank you very much for being here. Absolutely. Thank you guys.

All right, take it easy. See you. See you tomorrow. See you. We'll be watching. All right. The great Drew Lane, Mike Walters, joining us on the show. Very much appreciate.

All right, we got content hotel stuff to get into. People have not got enough news on content hotel. It's still the talk of the town. So we were at the Villa Roma and the Catskills in Calicoon, New York. You might have heard me talk about it a few times before the event to let people know we were doing that. And we're going to get into it. The first thing I want to say is a shout out to Joe from the UK who flew in for this event. Yeah.

and he started talking to me right before our show and I feel bad because I was like really distracted because I'm looking at my clock and I'm like, what time are we going on and I'm trying to figure out? So I was, I had a great conversation with him but I wish I would have spent a little more time

chatting with him and I feel bad that I did. Right before you go on is typically the worst time to hit up before just bad time. It was tough. It was tough. I meant to circle back around with them at a certain point and just did not get a chance to, I was a busy weekend. But he gave us some amazing chocolate, and I appreciate that.

Thank you for bringing gifts. Thank you for being there coming in all the way from the UK. I know we've got to fix your camera there. Did anyone come up with the joke, vile aroma? Did I come up with that? No one else? I was the only one who came up with Callie Coon. That's pretty good, too.

I figured Anthony would be all over. that but it never came up we got a lot of uh comedians on this why don't you set up the presentation you have for us about your top five and your worst five from uh content hotel i mean that's pretty much it i've been um i think pretty consistent and uh clear about my love of the dabalverse and all of these characters and my desire to like appear on their shows and form my own opinions of all of these people not be influenced by anyone here at WATP

and that's why I've spent my time on everyone from Jake Hudson to Quadfather to even Chad Zumach show it's because I think the best way to form an opinion is on your own and as you've heard sometimes my opinions differ wildly

from the people here and from others but I it's important that I form my own and And I wouldn't want anyone to think that there would be anything for me to gain by not just saying what I feel. I can't even imagine what it would be. I would have to gain. I enjoy this stuff.

I'm fascinated by these characters and the fact that I'm not the only one. It makes me realize I'm not alone in it. And if I wasn't attending this Villaroma, I would be like all the people who were texting me saying, oh, man, if I could just be a fly on the wall and nobody could see it. me and I could just see all of this stuff that would be amazing all the people texting you call going tell me tell me what's happening well I had an opportunity to go and decide for myself and talk to all of these people and form an opinion and the greatest you know when we were younger and we would have a successful night out the greatest thing would be to tell your buddies the

next day this it turns out is even more fun getting to have a week like that and getting to share all of these opinions with people that are curious or know them or would just believe what I had to say as my subjective experience, that's so much fucking fun. It's the best. It really is. So these are not the views of everyone in the room. I do not reflect the home office of WATP. These are strictly mine. And if anyone has a question or a follow-up, please chat on in Carl, Chris, let me know. Don't let me just get away with anything. It's why I really wanted to do this with either Mersh or with Tuki or someone who could be objective.

Right. And that, you know, I could explain how I felt. And I really believe both of them would completely understand as people who are obsessed with this stuff. I should imagine I called into Nobody likes onions on Monday night. Yeah, Monday night. Yeah. Patrick was talking about Villaroma. So I'm like, I should probably just call it and talk to about it.

So I just, I called it and said, hey, I was at Villa Roma. Asked me anything. It took a few questions from to realize that it was me calling into the show. You were in a different voice when you first called in. Was I? You were doing a voice. Oh, I was trying to. No one recognized you.

And then Patrick made you laugh. And that car laugh came out. And then everything, oh, hey, how are you doing everybody? I was like, was he trying to pass off as like a Howard Stern caller? Were you trying to be like, everything was great over there? I don't know what they're talking about. Carl looked amazing. I was like, what is he trying to do?

That would have been to the play. See, I didn't make the decision to call him until like the... I'm just like, oh, he's talking about the, I'll call in. If I had thought about it a little bit, that would have been the move right there. It's crazy to know you have an off air and on-air voice. I'd never noticed. Yeah, we drove to the airport together for an hour to half. I feel like you would know what I sound like.

I guess you were on the whole time. Yeah, I guess so. All right. So what do you got? What do you want to start? Your top five bars? I got five of each. in no order. Ask me for one.

And I will tell you. Okay. So do we have to guess if it's good or bad? Is that the... No, just say, give me a good one. Give me a bad one. What do you want? All right. Let's start with the good. What's a positive from Chrissy Mears Content Hotel? What can you tell us? And it's been said before, but I want to say why. The Rich Voss is set.

And I know people have seen Rich Voss and they're like, oh, you haven't seen him before, obviously. No, I've seen him. I know his crowd work. I know how he can tear apart a room. I've seen it. This was something different. He wasn't tearing apart the people in the room. He was tearing apart the event in a way that I had not seen anyone in the Dabalverse do. It was precision. He was questioning

why he had been born as a person and the events in his life that led him to this event right here. And me and Carl and we all got to be the band like on the side where he would just look at us and sigh because we were all in this together, giving us this. like what are we doing here how did it go he talked about if kevin hart and bill burr happened to like their car broke down and they saw him there and then he would have to explain himself and he did it to chrissy and and everyone's face they were right there he said it to them he offended the audio engineer he offended every wedding band that had ever played behind him that wasn't there on top of everyone in the room and who are these podcasts and most importantly himself and how his contribution

to all of this wasn't helping anything it was watching someone self-destruct like lenny bruce in real time except it was church because we were all in it together and no one could move because if you moved he was going to see you and he was going to start talking about you and he doesn't move either as we know he sits in a chair calm demeanor just sitting there and just he he he everyone's waiting on his next word so he's taking his time he's just looking around and he remembers everything that happened in the last two days and he's bringing up for two days what i thought was a quiet kind of introspective guy was actually just writing and writing and writing this 45 minute takedown i don't think he's literate but no no no he was thinking and

thinking and right yeah sure with the symbols and pictures however he remembers that kind of stuff it was relentless and I remember somebody was kind of asking for it they came in and they sat down right in the front row and Rich was like thank God and just hit him so hard that it was dangerous we were scared about what was going to happen next because this guy was drunk and Rich he was relentless to the point where we thought violence was going to break out and hear me out when's the last time you've been to a show and actually not known what was going to happen next or felt an element of danger, let alone at this thing, this is the thing where I'm going to see this kind of church service. It was so unexpected and brought us all together as losers in such a beautiful way. I'll never forget it. The guy who, so he walked past us and goes, I'm going to sit in the front. We're like, yeah, man, go for it.

This is the same guy I spit on. Hear me out during the WATP show just prior to Rich Boss's stand-up show. I did a spit take with my beer, thinking it would be really funny. And boy, did I miss where I was a thing, because I just spit all over the sky in the front row. And he was shooting daggers at me, the rest of the show. And I'm like, oh, shit, I'm going to get beat up. And then afterwards, I walked over, and I'm like, dude, I am so sorry. He's like, I don't get off, man.

And he didn't. He didn't know. Yeah, he didn't know if he remembers. But sorry, if you're there, sorry, I did that. It was funny. When you think of a spit take, you think of, like, wide and out. And yours was just like projectile straight. Like a hose.

That was a spit-dakes. I'm not, I didn't practice that. before the show. So anyway. Save that for the professionals. Yes, Rich Voss was fantastic. And we'll play this later, but Stiltoe, and I believe Kianu both think, the reason why we say that Rich Voss was great is because of how horribly I treated him on WTP, we're trying

to make amends for that. It's the aristocrats. It's Gilbert Godfrey. It's when Gilbert sees he's bombing, goes, oh, fuck the promoters, and just launches into them. It's the fact that... It's the fact that... It's the fact that...

It's the fact that Chrissy and them invited him, and he did that, and then they shook his hand and thanked him. It was incredible. He took everyone down, and that's just when something is sad and funny at the same time, it's just my favorite. All right. So that's one of your top five good things. Let's go to something that sucked at Content Hotel. I've heard a lot of people saying that a lot of things sucked there. I mean, I'm not going to argue with them just because I'm not an argumentative type of person, but I will say that the live stream set up was.

a failure on so many levels it's hard to even describe the whole concept of doing a 48-hour live stream was kind of this afterthought which was so surprising because I mean they took care of you felt taken care of you felt like there was always things you needed they were always making sure you were okay but in terms of the actual show there was a sign-up sheet and all of us were supposed to just pick a time within those 48 hours that we were going to I guess you'll just talk on the live stream and some people did but then you'd show up and the gear would have been over it overheated and you couldn't get online whenever the gear would overheat they would turn the live stream into an iPhone and then they'd have

to walk around outside while the gear cooled down so signing up didn't do anything you couldn't time it out it resulted in people just sitting and waiting for long periods of time and then giving up and moving on and then a text came out at three in the morning saying we got nobody on the stream and I'm one of these stupid theater kids I see something like that and I did they need me I got to go and I put on my clothes and I run and it was me and Gino and Keanu and one or two other people and we're like we got the call let's do it let's do a show and the gear it's too hot we can't do anything they're walking the dog who's walking the dog just like you thought one of chrissey's friends because they cared and needed to do something because there was nothing on

the air and i waited from about three three 30 till four 35 and i left i couldn't stay up anymore that's when i ran into adam it like four a m on friday night saturday morning and i'm just like Bip-a-doo, going back to my room. And I'm like, oh, shit, I'm in the live stream. And now I'm playing with dogs with the anima on the live stream. Like, fuck. So I'm trying to avoid. Sucker.

Yep. So, all right, so my takeaway on that, yeah, there was, Chrissy was hoping for a lot more participation, I think, from people, because they had all these events set up. And there was zip lining and beer pong and go-karting and all the stuff that was going on. I didn't get a chance to do any of it because I was prepping for two different shows. So I was mostly in my room doing that kind of stuff.

But, yeah, it seemed like the participation in the live stream wasn't what she was hoping for. And my takeaway is it doesn't need to be 48 hours straight. Like, that seems like a fun concept. But why not go from like 9 a.m. to 2 a.m. or to midnight or something. And then turn it off. Let the equipment cool down. Let it feel to get some fucking sleep. This poor fucking guy.

field he's out of the hour of sleep and we're trying to troubleshoot w tp on saturday i'm like i'm sorry man we're all performers why not just schedule performances instead of just handing a sheet out and going you all work it out among yourselves uh there was no leadership when it came to to me what's the most important thing happening there i'd never met patrick melton i went to hackomania and of all the you know visions of what he was going to be like I had in my head none of them involved him sober and behind the soundboard eight hours a day every day mixing and live streaming every single act personally like that's because his priority was this show and getting it out to people and he knew if it didn't sound and look good

it would be on him chrissey knew that she loved these people that were here and thought they were talented and did everything she could to make them comfortable and make them happy yes but for sure without any thought to this show and it brings me i can go right to another one of my things on the bad list which is that these were really missed opportunities because i got to tell you when me and kianu and gino talked for an hour and a half on the set of the live stream in front of the microphones on the couches talking about the dabbled verse in this quiet voice and i just did what i like to do which is interview them and ask these questions and listen to their answers, the shit that they said would have been

the best podcast to come out of there. It was real. You told me about the conversation and I went, this wasn't on a show and they were willing to talk about this stuff because we know that Gino and Keanu have a different perspective on what we do here. They think that this is a toxic, you know, realm where everyone's a hater and everyone's an asshole and trying to get you canceled. Like half of Gino's stand-up act is about how YouTube sucks, you know.

And so the idea that you have a guy. like Adam, who came in here voluntarily, joined into the Davaoverse as a part of WATP, talking to these two about, like, yeah, what's your problem? Like, why do you think this is so, such a horrible place? And you're having that real conversation

would have been amazing. It was amazing. Kiano's like a schizophrenic homeless person that's like circling the dumpster that you kind of hear, and it's just like nonsense, 95% of the time, but that last 5%,

you're like, what the fuck was that? that's something I would love to share that with everyone but I can't because we weren't recording and it wasn't a podcast and it was such a missed opportunity it blew my mind that all this great content that she dreamed of was actually happening and none of it was being recorded and like you said it was too hot right the equipment was too hot and there was no organization and there was no planned it was directorless it was was just, you know, figure it out for yourselves. And then walking back, like you said, I ran into Carl and I'm like, oh, let me tell you about what just happened. And I was thinking, God damn, people would have loved to hear this. You and I, you know, coming down at the end of the evening, just summing up all of this stuff being incredibly honest about everyone, like I can't believe the opportunities are here

and they're all being missed. And what we're recording is the walking of a dog or the, you know, it was really. one minute, I don't know who they were, they were like just dancing by themselves with no music trying to stay awake. And she was like, can we get some music or something? The voice went, no. And she was like, just anything? We can't afford it. It's publishing. Okay. She just kept dancing and I was watching this thinking there is so much interesting, crazy or just a delusional talent around here to make something interesting

it's such a travesty we're not taking advantage of it all right let's keep it moving three downs having to go come on man to get to

I don't want to make Doom work too hard on these clips no that's the whole point if I ramble long enough it's hard to cut it there's no in point or end point Doom's the best positive is the group she cast well everyone with someone you could fuck

with everyone was like oh if they jumped on the stream either through politics or through sex or through whatever their take is this is interesting this is an interesting group of losers none of them need to have credits for it to be a conversation she has interesting taste and getting all of these different types together was like oh i want to get into a political discussion with that guy i want to talk about only fans with her i want to talk about the dabble verse with them there was just no opportunity to do it yeah and i think that's i think that's on us or me specific I didn't mingle well. I was very busy working.

It was a working weekend. I got to play poker, which was awesome, but I didn't really get a chance to hang out with everyone as much as I wanted to. We learned something interesting that you can tell from watching the stream, and it's not a good thing or a bad thing. It's just that WATP is the only show that has some kind of preparation that needs to be done. Everyone else is a live streamer. People were surprised.

People that had been guests on the show or had claimed to have seen it before were surprised by it. Yeah, when, well, I'll tell them. Rich Boss story letter. Keep going. It's not hard work. No one's complains. It's just if we want to have clips and comments that are telling some kind of story and relevant to that day, this stuff moves so fast that you really can't until the night

before and the day before. And for whatever reason, I will never understand. Our schedule was a live show in a room that wasn't going to be streamed. They're dying with this empty cameras over here. And we are putting on a show that nobody's going to. see in another room. So Chrissy was like, oh, do another show tomorrow then on the stream. And we said, like, everyone I saw in that place whenever anything came up said, okay, great, you got it. But now we got to go back to the room and we got to sit and we got to write for a bunch

of hours. We've got to pull clips and figure this thing out, which, by the way, is what we love to do. That's why we were there. It's our favorite thing to do. We don't want to mingle. We just want to do this. Let me say this for the record. I said this on Patrick's show on Monday. our live show that I was promoting I thought went really well we had some great segments but it was not well attended and it's not a show that I would want to do

and if I could go back in time I don't think I would agree to do that show however with that said I had a blast and I'm glad I went I had a lot of fun this past weekend and all things considered it was a really cool experience and an experience that I'm glad I got to live through and we'll remember.

And if people were being charged for this live stream, I would be angry. If it wasn't just like a free shitty link on YouTube, then we would be mobilizing and not even talking about it until every single person got their money back. Because for a WATP fan or anyone else, it's not exciting to have a shittier angle in a shittier room with terrible audio. That's what's in that for them. It's just the show they like that we, I'm still proud of that we all wrote a really, two really great shows that nobody really got to hear or enjoy because even the set was such an obnoxious afterthought. We can't get Kuma a seat and he's got to stand there like a, like a guy on a wedding cake who's been abandoned at the altar like by himself because no one will bring a seat because the only two people in there were just staring.

And I got to tell you at some point when someone came in the room and turned on the teeth. and started watching pee-wee, I felt a little isolated. I felt like we were a little bit on our own. But to have no background, no thought to all of that, that was there. DeMersh's credit, it wasn't no background. It was open windows. The worst background you can have. Yeah, so it was like just put some curtains up or something.

Like, it could have been different. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is the location. I enjoyed it in the spirit of I have done gigs. the cat skills before i'll do whatever the gig is especially when it's a band you love you'll play anywhere you want you just like playing together but this was prohibitive it was prohibitive on every level it um involved hills and you invited little people to come that's true that's true

that's um i thought i had a bed that's very very very um it's it's challenging and unnecessarily so it uh i i didn't know why we were there i don't care that it's an old 70s. I don't care that it's... I don't care. I don't care. They don't know that we're actually having a real conversation.

We're literally talking about what was good and what was bad. But what's the code? What am I covering for? What have I been painting as great? People know that they're like, oh, this must be them like sticking up for some

or changing the narrative or something. It's like, what am I defending? We're literally having a real conversation. Adam's ripping on. Yeah, we're talking about a lot of the negative things about this. So, cool, man.

Yeah, I mean, I'm doing my best to talk in a calm. unemotional voice and sound level-headed about all of this because I guess people won't believe that you had fun. They don't think it's possible to have fun even though... And by the way, having fun doesn't make it a good

event for attendees or viewers. Like, the fact that we had fun, who gives a shit? I have fun every day of my life. I'm telling my life. It's fun. No, what that does is validate what Mersh said, which is that this was just a vacation for friends to hang out.

Right. However, it can't be that because she didn't have any fun. So answer me that. Like she was working until six in the morning every night. Like it was a thing. This was not. I'm sorry to me to Daryl us. It's just funny to me.

Like people came in here with like a thing. They're like, when they talk about content hotel, I'm going to let them know. They're obviously coping. We're being completely transparent about all of this. And I don't know what Adam's going to say. He didn't tell me who he's going to say ahead of time. So I'm just letting him go. Yeah. I could have been on bumper boats,

but instead I was watching French Hanna on pulling Clips. Yeah, we never even got to Franchihanna. Sorry, Chris. A list of activities that were there and times that were there. You can't just have a list up that says Petting Zoo 10am because it's also bar open till six. Someone has to make this happen, the expectation that people are just going to find their

way there and make content happen for you was a bit naive, it was a bit innocent, it was a bit misguided there's that's not how a show runs it's not what happens I remember you've even yeah it doesn't even matter the point is let me find something positive because I feel like I've been on one thing for a while

I don't have any left I'm sorry but and they say you're coping right what a great set that was I do have a note on Rich Foss I want to please yeah real quick yeah I see this with comics that we go see the there's this nervous laughter like I'm breaking a little bit yeah he does that he's he's not

breaking he's actually cracking himself up yeah and you can tell yeah it's genuine big difference thank you yeah i also liked when i was playing poker with rich and he's sitting next to anthony across the way and i see him looking over at me and whisper into anthony and it was like i do carl from tour these podcasts i'm like yeah yeah what's up rich we make we make fun of you a lot on there, but love your wife. Bonnie's lovely. She's great. That was a fun experience for me.

Anyway, there's nothing to do with anything. Neither here nor there. No, people don't. No, I've worked with Bonnie. We did a show called Gander together and for Amazon. These people, when you gig, you just gig.

And you don't care when you're a comic and you don't care when you're in a band. But if you can be honest about how shitty the gig is, then we're experiencing something. together right yeah and i'm all for that it's um it's we've all done a lot of gigs we've been a lot of sound guys a lot of people this person that was left to run this sound gear and this video gear was so sweet and so overwhelmed if they were an asshole i would love nothing more than to share that with you and rip them apart and blame them field is awesome you can't the guy did everything he

could with what he had and the problem was everyone had that spirit everyone was like let's try. I don't know why there's nothing happening. Let's try and make something happening. The technology is not allowing it, so we'll figure it out another way. All I can say, I don't know, Kianu. I didn't get into her business. I can say some stuff about our conversation, but I can say without complaining, her and Gino sat there until eight in the morning. Like, till eight in the morning to try and fix this thing for their friend, whether that was the right thing or not, you can take it up with them. But it was definitely more than I had. And I know Chrissy and And Frank, like, you watch the stream if you're seeing it.

It's unwatchable. I know. But what you'll see in the background is Chrissy cleaning stuff up, you know, putting things away, putting out food, making sure there's grapes. Do I think there was a better use of her time? Yes. Why she chose to spend it like that? I don't know. Did I appreciate it?

Yeah. Did I tell her to go to bed? Yeah, I did. Because no, we don't need that. I don't know why the attention was put towards that. Frank was delivering us food, trying to get the sound work going online. Like, everyone did whatever they could. I don't know why there wasn't a team in place or even just a plan to do that.

That was a big wasted opportunity. Okay. I do think it was a, the idea that we're doing comedy shows and live podcasts every night. And then there's also a 40-hour live stream. But then there's also this meet-and-greet thing that's going on for a whole weekend with fans and stuff. All of it seemed like, how are we going to pull this off? I've done content houses with Chrissy before, and it all makes sense. We're all just in a house together, and there's a stream, and we could pop on and pop off.

And maybe we'll, we did an escape room. I remember I went to that with Chrissy and the gang and, you know, whatever. We'll go to excursions. But this was, they were, they were biting off a lot on this one. You know, it was, it was going to be a tough sled either way. They had real talent of some degree. They had interesting people with shit to say that I wanted to talk to. And the stream was dominated by Chrissy's friends who were filling in because there was no one around and someone had to.

That's not a show. That's not a live stream. That's not even like a fun Christmas party. That's work, which is why we were so, you know, keen to say. It was not a vacation. It's because everyone worked. If that was a vacation, everyone was sweating up all night and working. So if it was a vacation, it wasn't fun.

I don't know who that Lauren chick is, but there was one highlight of the stream when they were at the pool and Lauren was in a bikini. Very good poker player, too, by the way. I don't know if she's an only fan's girl or what a deal. I haven't looked it up. Maybe I should get on that. And do you want to present on this?

Should we talk about Mersh and his take on that? I want to get into that because it'll cover these topics, I think, a little more clear. Well, before we do that, our buddy Chris Baldassano, who is running the karaoke. Hey, guys. Was it a true pleasure to meet you and hang with you at the resort. Great job on the show, the streams. And thanks for coming to karaoke.

Much love and kudos. Yes. Karaoke was fun in the last days. It always is. It was up singing. Anthony was up singing. Jenny Jingles was up singing. Keanu.

Perfect example. Chris, you had, however many people were there, ready to go, signed up for karaoke. And Chris had to sit there and work on that. gear for about 45 minutes while people stood there after the late night show at like 1230, 45 minutes of waiting for karaoke to start finally. It was like Jenny, Anthony, and me. And we did our thing and we felt good like we'd contributed something to the stream. And then they turned the stream on after we had before.

Ozo, the footage from your show at the kind of house reminded me of that Shackler video where removed the crowd reaction from Ray's stand. up how uncomfortable was it live it was pretty comfortable it was fine yeah it was just like i mean it was fun to do the show in person with these guys it actually felt like it was going over fine i mean come on i would have given anything to see ray stand-up set from the m from kevin's yeah what was it hotel room that was v tals yeah yeah and when uh chad like i would love to be in a fly on the wall of all of that stuff. So getting the chance to do it, it's fun for me.

I agree. I didn't have to pay. Ozone, well, we all had fun things people say after a disaster show. I just said that. I realize that doesn't make it good. I'd understand that. Frank Pellegrito, my man. You guys were amazing, and as always, fair criticism, we learned a lot from this.

And ultimately, we were stretched way too thin production-wise and administratively. If we do it again, we will have to have. have a much larger team. And Frank told me that during the show. He recognized what was going. I was like, we just need more bodies working on this stuff. And it's funny because I guess we'll probably get into the MERS stuff in a minute.

But, you know, one of the things that I talked about was the fact that Chrissy and Frank got there the Thursday before. Oh, wow. So they were there for like six days before the event happened. And everyone was just like, well, they're obviously on vacation. The amount of work that they put into this, the, the, I don't want to get into all the stuff that they created for it because it's too much.

It's insane. I would never have thought to do as much work as they did. What did they do? For this event. Doing what? Obviously, all the itineries they put together, the swag bags, the gifts, the posters that everybody signed for every single different event that was going on that they got printed and professionally created.

I mean, I have a pile of stuff at my pool table over here that I grabbed from there and brought home with me. and it was all of this pre-work they had to go into making all of this happen. And that's not even, that's just the stuff that I can see. That's not all the stuff that obviously had to do with the hotel and the resort and the staff and all that fun stuff. There was a room for all of the talent that had all of the snacks, food, anything you could want for the entire time you were there. And I remember sitting there with my glass bottle, Topo Chico, looking at that empty set going, I feel like the energy is misplaced. I would go without the Topo Chico if we could just have a working mic and a nice show going.

And a boomstand. Can I bring up before we get into the other stuff? And I know we're talking too much about content, hotel. It seems like to be the talk of the dabbled verse. I feel like we should be addressing it on this show. But Schittso-Shahn. So Schizophrenia is there Friday night. And I think unfairly targeted, he was at the Dave Landau show.

I saw him there. We were talking. and everyone was concerned he was filming and whatever, who cares if he is. You know, Dave Landau was great. It's a great show. It's a 48-hour live stream. Yeah.

What is the concern? What is the concern? But apparently certain people were concerned about it, security talk to him, whatever. After that went down, we were hanging out at the bar, Schizophren and I, and we were chatting about it. Dude, I'm so excited about WTP tomorrow. I got my tickets for that. That's why I drove here from Colorado.

him like that's fucking awesome man and I've hung out with him before at at hackomania and he's been to different events so we were playing poker and schizzo shun was there and I was talking to him after poker and I was trying to hook him up with lucy tightbox he's wondering if she's into younger guys or not and I'm like oh yeah anything goes so I was doing my best for schizzo shun who I promise you I had multiple conversations with this guy he was not there to fuck up the event he was excited. He bought a ticket to WATP Live. He's excited to see it. But there was this idea because he recorded the 11th anniversary of the Steeltoe show. And he was going to heckle and ruin shows or something. Like, that's not what he's doing. He's maybe capturing things,

but whatever. Like you're, if someone asked me before we started WTP Live, you care if anyone's filming, I'm like, I'm filming. What do you mean? We're going to put it out loud. This is the show. Send us the angle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be nice to have another angle for add of my video out of there. Anyway, so apparently Schenzo, Sean got, well, not apparently. He got thrown out. He got trespassed on Friday morning.

And he doesn't remember what happened. He remembers ordering a double vodka Red Bull at the bar, like whatever time it was, started drinking it. The next thing he knows, he's waking up in his hotel room at 11 a.m. His clothes are soaking wet in the bathroom for some reason. And security comes in,

and they tell him he's got to go. There's two different versions of this, maybe three. He's not even sure. I saw him on with Riley and Mintzell and talking all about this. And so apparently it was either he got into a fight and there was security footage of it. And so they kicked him out for fighting and he was blackout and doesn't remember. More likely, he climbed into a room that was just open and just slept there because he doesn't remember getting to a room or why he was in a room. And there were rooms that were just open with the door open.

It's kind of weird. wow so it's apparently you might have just like got that was an option right i know the whole time so apparently so i don't know what happened with schitzel shun but it's funny that like even guys and i totally respect like either von skiverr was talking about this like everyone's talking about this content out of town and he goes yes schizshaun was kicked out for filming the event i was like he did that he's told his story himself that's what happened and then a super chatter comes in and says, oh, no, no, he was actually kicked out for, you know, being blackout drunk and getting anybody. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But it's so funny how, like, quickly

the telephone game happens in this world where it's like, oh, Chrissy kicked out schizochshod and Frank punched him in the fucking had again. You never come around here again. It's like, none of this happened. Say that to me again. You say it to me. Right. Yeah, they all get tough, like, stuttering John. So a lot of weird things have been said about this event. If anybody has any questions or follow-ups or, you know, I was unclear about something, please, now is the time. Ask us because we will answer, honestly, this question that's been asked a lot is, was it open to the public, into the resort, or was it just ticket only? And from what I saw, they tried to keep it ticket only, but they couldn't maintain that.

And also, there really wasn't enough people there to be like, you can't come in. Like, if people wanted to come in, let them in, let them enjoy the show. And they did. And they were definitely, you know, padding the room with whoever was there that wanted to see the show. And I think, as a performer, please, as many people as you can get in there, that would be great. They don't all need to know the story of Aaron Himalt to enjoy it. It helps. It does, but it's not necessary.

It certainly helps. I was going to go to the next segment where there's people in the chat who want to get their opinions. Sure. Right. So let's do that real quick. add him a lot of mixed feelings bush okay um i come buckets everything to bring up self-cutting girl

to cumia wow all right you got we gotta move on man uh jenta remember for two months gino posting his license online and kiannu filming him drunk when that's what they were complaining about

go ahead stick up for that garbage couple oh i that actually is a very good point gino doxing this guy and kianu going and i was upset he was going to film the shows and then she films him and puts it out. Keanu is the same person who was like mad at us at this little piggy for reading April's text messages, but we'll read anyone's tax messages when it's her turn to do it.

I can say this. I can say that she looked me right in the eye because she mentioned something about Melton. And whenever you say Melton around, they do like, they like, they like spit on the ground. You can't mention his name around them. And I said, what's the deal with Melton? And she looked me right in the eye and she said, he tells people to look up pictures of my asshole. He says everyone should look at my starfish. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's rough.

Cut to her stand-up show. That's her punchline. That's that exact turn of phrase is her big closer. So I, hypocrisy. Yeah, there's a little bit of hypocrisy. Absolutely. Going out with that. Sorcerer, would you attend content hotel again? I'll let you answer, Anna. What do you think? Mixed feelings.

No, I'm not a monster You say that and you're That's fucked up That is fucked up Nobody gets allowed to process things We decide right now Would I attend Content Hotel again

Well luckily after Everything I just said They won't have me So I don't have to worry about it It's true That's true We're not invited next time Ace presents

This is my buddy Riley young Clippa Content is king Content will continue Until Morale Improves Young Clippa Yeah He did a great job with schizochshan breaking down everything that went down at Content Hotel.

Stewie felt back in again. Embrace the suck next year. Content Riverboat in Evansville, Indiana. It's not a bad idea. I'll do that. All right. Do you want to get into Mercia, like, owes me something. I'm getting him so much juice this week.

He's getting a lot of attention. We invited him on to this show. Well, I did. I texted him and I said, do you want to come on WTP tomorrow? And I never got a response, unfortunately, which is funny. Fine. Doesn't have to respond to me. I think he owe him an apology, is what he's saying. Oh, okay. That's possibly true, I guess.

Where do you want to start here, Adam? Do you want to start at the beginning? I do. I love starting at the beginning. I'm a storyteller in that way. He, Mersh, who was undeniably really, really funny in his recap of all of this stuff. Sure. And his thoughts on it. um took issue with how we responded to his comments and he says this is how it should have been handled it i mean like it's if they had just been like oh you know like fucking what is

mersh know and made fun of something he yeah hey mersh's just pissed because there's not a fucking uh a sports book here or um you know there's no prostitutes or something i would have laughed at that you know oh mersh's just mad that something Well, when you said, Mersh, that what you were upset about was stuff about the character Warren from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I feel like only you and I, Mersh, and maybe Jenny Jingles, know that all of the things you said were not just, like, made up shtick, like they were factually accurate. It was actually very intelligent commentary on the Buffy lore in terms of the character I played in the role he had. So that was really, really funny. I assumed that when I said in return that what you're really mad about is that I killed Tara and wasn't as, that the end of Buffy wasn't as strong as the end of Angel that you would take it in the same spirit, you know, both being moderately funny, but understanding what was being given to me because nobody else here knows those references to Buffy. Like they didn't know. Nobody does. And rightly so.

so it's funny because you know Mersh like everyone else and I don't fault about this is creating his own narrative and he talks a lot about your DMs and your conversations that you were having and it's funny that he acts like you were humorless and like upset about him calling you out as an actor for your career or whatever looking into it

but it's it's very funny that like you were busting balls back and Mersh is like a victim it's it's bizarre how much he is the victim in all of this, whereas he is busting everyone's balls. And he's like, but I was joking, so I don't get it. I didn't realize that the phrase,

I am new to podcast it, and I'm new to this world, especially than you guys. Like, I became aware of Merchant and Reds of the Sis, through you guys when they, through their John coverage. And then I learned, oh, they were actually pre-Christy, free, all that stuff.

They started this thing. And I've seen every video they've done on John, and especially a lot of, of Mersh's new ones on Karmic X. I like the opinions. I like the things. I like what's going on. I didn't realize that saying you record in your basement is like a diss.

I really thought it was your mom's basement. I assumed you're in a basement and that he's in a basement and that that is a reference. Whatever. What we're talking about is people that talk to the camera like it's a skill. It's a different thing than hosting with guests and a whole other bit. That's a social element to that. But talking to the camera for hours on end and making. the camera feel like it's a real person and making the person listening feel that way.

That's a real skill and it's a different one. So I didn't realize that was like saying you're a loser in your mom's basement. But that seems to be more between you two. I don't want to get involved. Yeah, yeah, whatever. And it's funny that you picked up on that where Mersh is saying that like, oh, you guys are becoming the haters who talk about people in their basements, which is, I never said Mercer's in the basement.

I know he's not. And that's not what you meant about it either. but Mersh is doing the thing that the other little cows do where they're like, you can make fun of me for this thing and that thing, but not this thing. Like, we weren't making fun of them appropriately. Sorry, man. I mean, give me a list of things I can goof on you for.

It's cross eyes, right? I can say that. I'm fun of your cross-eyed. Those are in bounds. Sportsbook and prostitutes. Oh, that's right. Got it. I made fun of his BMW when I got into it when we first hung out.

Not cool. And he's like, Carol. No, he's fine The idea of any dabbleverse show Looking at another dabbler's show And saying like their losers and their winners Is ridiculous Yeah, it's so silly

All right, what's the next clip here? He was watching us on what, Point Dabble Point on Monday Yes, yes I think you can just play it Yeah, I think Julie had some questions for us About Content Hotel Fantastic

That's not fun That's not fun and whimsical That's just hurtful let's that's just trying to hurt a motherfucker's feelings you know so yeah I don't know man it's a little odd

it's just it's very odd that again his line in the sand was like bro you're going to start insulting the chicken cutlets at the restaurant at the Villa Roma we're going to have a problem meanwhile I've been calling Anthony Coomy a pedophile for like 10 years

yeah that might be true we don't know but the point is the food at the Villaroma, I had not commented on yet. Nobody had. No one had said it word about it. Did anyone say, hey, Mersh, you're wrong about the food? Philaroma. I don't remember saying that.

I've been waiting and dying to tell you all that it's exactly what you would expect. Like, they pointed out that the rooms, they don't show you pictures of them. They only show you drawings. It was like drawings of food. It was like the first class meal in the shittiest. airline or like in a third world country like this is the best we could muster for you and it's still like inedible but the portions are huge it was like it was uh like it looked good and tasted it was just exactly what you expect just to make a really old reference since you mentioned

it the movie airplane everyone who eats the fish yeah yes there's a rough go in it i had the fish it was uh it was it was not desirable it was it was exactly And in terms of, like, spot on, it was exactly how you described Mersh. Like, there are things he knows when he was talking about the vendor and the canned soup and all of that. It's exactly right. That's exactly what we had. The soup was super salty. It was supposed to have chicken.

We all thought it was cream of broccoli, and it came, and it was consummate, and you're just like, we're just happy to... This was the one meal we had today. I didn't need a lot of food there. I was fine. I was fine with that. Yeah, it was okay. I drank Topo Chico, I drank tequila. Right.

Mm-hmm. But spot on with that. All right. Yep, very good. But this next part, this is finally where Mersh, I think, crossed the line and said something that was untrue, and I would like to push back on this. Doom, clip it. He crossed the line right here.

Mersh said, go back and watch the clip. And please, please find a single moment where at any point I said or even implied that Chrissy Mayer was a bad mother. I would never accuse you of saying that Chrissy Mayer is a bad mother because that's my line. That's been my beat. I've been consistent about it on the shows to her face twice over the weekend on her show. Even when she came on WTP on Saturday, I'm like, have you figured out how to get your kid in a crib yet? And she's like, no.

I'm like, so what? It's just like decor for your house. Like your child should be sleeping in a crib, not in your bed with you. Like this is- Adam was roasting Chrissy to the kid. Yes. Yeah. And he was laughing the hardest, you know? The first thing we said when we sat down, well, the first time last time, she told me about how the kid had hand and foot disease.

And when I saw her again on the stream here, I was like, how's the hand in foot disease? And she said, oh, I have it now. It's spread to my feet and then she showed us. Yep. It is, the kid, he's not in a crib yet. That's what I mean. Like, I could go on and on, but this is my beat. I don't need any help, but no one will accuse you of doing that at all.

All right. So what's the next clip here? This is what Mersh actually said. Okay. Was she's getting to the 18 month to two-year mark. And she's going fucking crazy. And I did make jokes about I did call it Chrissy Mayer's like, let's go on vacation or I'm going to kill this baby or whatever the fuck I said.

It was a joke. It's jokes. Wait, didn't he just say he didn't call Chrissy Mayer a bad mother? Oh, but it was a joke. That was a joke. And he says it was a bad mother. Maybe it was the best thing for the kid between. Okay.

All right. I was confused because I think. thought that everything that we said was serious and so I thought like everything he said was serious but when he says stuff it's okay good that's good to know I like to know what the rules are of this he knows a lot which I wasn't aware of about women's issues about pregnancy about childbirth he explains here about postpartum and postnatal periods and how they work in a women's body he did work in a strip cup for a while time so that actually makes sense actually there you go and I never even said bad mom I was like you know you earned it if you're at that vergy even in

my chat said like yeah she she's at that mark that people get to where it's acceptable to be like i got it i'm going to separate a little bit from this kid for a couple for a weekend you know and go get lit and go see fucking monster trucks or something and that's fine so i don't know why things got so personal boss but that seems a little weird so i don't know it's i guess we're i I guess, am I, am I, am I just, is that how this works where I'm automatically not cool with Carl from one of these podcasts now? Oh, we're cool. I invited you on the show today.

I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, was, I like dabs. I think you're pretty cool. Right. Yeah, exactly. I was just, I think it was the fact that you said this is a vacation away from the baby. That was the thing, that we, all of us criticized. Mersh has now turned this into everything he said was wrong. It's like, no, no, no, we just, we witnessed the baby was there.

Merce said the baby wasn't going to be there. And then he said that Chrissy's on vacation and slacking off and just hanging out with her friends. And we went, I've never seen someone work harder in their lives. At the wrong stuff. But yes, working really hard. Right, right, right. Maybe it was a little misdirected.

If she was a bitch, you don't think I'd be the first one to come and tell you. You don't think I would be reporting back on. Everything she said, and we'd be reveling in it. It would make it more interesting. True. I don't enjoy this position. I wish the sound guy was an asshole. I wish everyone was spoiled and put upon, and it wasn't like this.

We're going to work together and try and save this thing spirit, but it was so it feels hard to shit on those friends of Chrissies and volunteers because they're who are taking the brunt of this thing. In this next bit, I think it hammers home exactly. what we were talking about. They watched the baby when we were doing this. Oh, you've been here for a while. That's right. I forget. They're at an Airbnb with Frank's parents and her and the whole family.

Oh, and they're also going to be like, oh, see? And Mersh said this was all about getting away from the baby. And this was all about, yeah, it was because your fucking step fucking, you know what I mean? Your in-laws were there with you, probably helping to pay for the Airbnb. and also probably watching that kid by default. You can't blame him. This is exactly what we do on Steeltoe. This is what we do.

Moody does. We break this stuff down. And I'm personally fucking fascinated by it. So when somebody says they were staying at air, I found out. And I came in, I'm like, did you know, like, she's staying at an Airbnb?

You're like, oh. And I thought, well, that's, that is not a good look. That is, for many, many different reasons. That is bizarre. And what I found out was that, she was staying the same place that we were which is the hotel it's all on the grounds there's multiple buildings around and it's like when you're in vegas and like you're in tower four

you're in tower two yeah it was all the same place meaning to say it was equally as shitty there was no upgrade of any kind it was all from the same decade this was not a brag of any kind it wasn't there at an air bn bn b they're at the exact same site the exact same distance it takes to move the gear from your room to the room that you're playing in. The only thing that was hilarious about it is that it was on a hill and you invited in midgets. Right. Which I don't think they like that word, but I hear what you're saying.

Oh, um, I think it's an accurate script. Because I went out of the room and I said little people before two. I don't know what to call in there anymore. Well, no, it's funny though, because you got to remember Adam that Mersh knew that Cisco was the company that provided the food. Therefore, he's right everything right. He's mentioned this multiple times. Meanwhile, there's like, there's two companies that provide food for restaurants.

Chris knows this. I've worked at restaurants. There's only two choices. This goes the better one, to be honest with you. The better reputation of the two. But I say, the food was good. Well, that's sad. Am I...

I know. Are these defenses I'm giving, like, are they painting people as better? Am I like, do I sound like I am? I feel like, you know, when I asked Merce to come on, like I've given him so much juice this week. I'm helping him out so much. He's going on other shows. He's getting clipped.

Everyone's watching this stuff. He keeps talking about it over and over again. I didn't even want to address it. But I felt like, well, I mean, he's been talking about it so much. We should probably talk about it on this show. But it's funny because it's like, it's all and fucking. All of this. You know, this whole idea where, you know, he can be hyperbolic.

We have the clip coming up where he's like, I am hyperbolic and I say all this crazy stuff. And I go, Mercer's a loser. And it's like, whoa. What's this carl guy? This carl guy's a real jerk. What's he talking about? And I'll point this out. This is a true fact of life.

If you get offended by being called a loser, you might be a loser You just might Because you can call me a loser To your blue in the face And I will never get upset about that You know I worked so hard And you just undid all of it

I really I put this whole thing together And you just You undid the whole thing I'm sorry Adam I'm sorry What did I do? It's amazing What do? No I mean

How can you lie about it You saw the stream What am I going to do When I get on here And tell you it's different than it was Like I've been on Jake's show I've been like, you can see the show. You can watch me with Chrissy.

Have I been dishonest or favored one side to another? I got to tell you something. When we were on point, Dabblepoint, and Shulie and when we were on point, Dabblepoint and Blind Mike took Mersh's side, it makes me go, okay, I'm not seeing something. There's something I have to go and figure out. Or I feel obligated to explain that will hopefully bridge some kind of gap because he's not wrong often. And he doesn't make stands like. that unfairly.

So I watched all of these clips and stuff that we're going through. And Mersh says some things that were very funny. And I always thought Mersh was a funny guy. That's why I've collaborated with him in the past and I enjoy his programming. And so the fact that I make one comment about him and he turns it into me saying he lives in the basement, I think he said that 50 times. I've never said it once. He turned it into this whole thing that I said that I never said.

Well, you've probably said it or I said it. You said it. And I go, no, there are no basements and he doesn't own a house. but neither here nor there like the idea that he was upset about being called a guy in his basement and this upset that he just keeps going out of that and out about it

I'm like all right you're a victim Mersh fight I thought that we were both like slinging mud I didn't know that we one of us was a victim with the other one you know was the jerk in this no I just thought that's where people recorded and there are plenty of things I could pick on if I'm in my basement

right now this is my basement this where my studio is in a basement. It's nice. It's actually really nice. I got a bar over there. There's a pool table, a dartboard, a megatouch. I can go out of that about this basement. It's a really lovely place. It's where we record our show.

Is Marsha, is he a father, a parent, or does he have a family, that kind of thing? I hope not. Do we even talk about that? Okay. Because in this next clip, he explains to you what a girl wants. All right. But I made a joke about her wanting to take

a break, and she deserves a break. I said it on the show. 18 months to two years, that's that time where it's like, all right, you do need a fucking break. You are going to strangle the baby if you don't get a fucking getaway. Absolutely true. And if I needed a get away from the kid and planned a monster truck show like you're talking about with my special gal.

And we went to the wherever that fucking thing happens and got back to the hotel. And my in-laws were there with the baby. I would not feel like that's a vacation away from my baby when you have a baby and it's there. It's the baby. And that's what it was at the house. The kid was, for better or worse, you can argue whether this is good parenting or not,

but the kid was there in the green room. The kid was watching peewee. The kid was in her arms was everywhere. This was, you're right. It was not a show. So what was it? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out.

But it wasn't a vacation for her and it definitely wasn't time away from the baby. If I promised that to my wife and she came home when the baby was there, she'd be fucking pissed. Right. Also, hanging out with your in-laws is not necessarily what you signed up for. Yeah, this is not a, no matter how cool they are. Her in-laws are here, neat.

And I just thought this next one was funny. Before you get to that, though, it's funny to me, because I think Mersh is a good broadcaster, and I think him and I agree on a lot of things about just sensibility. in life and he's upset that like one of his jokes was critiqued like we can't critique his jokes he goes i was joking about how she wants to be away from her baby like yeah then we had a comment about that like what are we doing here mersh says something and no one can say anything about it okay cool i'm fine with ignoring mersh i was planning on doing that today but anna brought a package

so we can do this too i love this stuff i'm fascinated by it there's So many people. I wanted to him on the show. I wanted to talk to him directly. He's in my chat. He's literally in my chat right now talking all this shit. It's like, come on this show and talk to me, Mersh. We've had conversations in real life multiple times.

We're fine. But anyway. We're on a text thread with people. We're like, what do you see? Send us pictures. How many people? Yeah. I'm one of those guys when this stuff happens.

If I had an opportunity to be there, I would report back. I can't imagine you being like, oh, the food's like this and you going bullshit. You lie. how is this oh this person bullshit you lie i don't make a living off this stuff like this is just for fun i don't have anything to gain except telling you how i felt about it and you can choose to believe it or not but this kind of language and the next one is very funny and i enjoy it it still counts as a vacation if your in-laws come with you to a farmhouse in god damn upstate new york in the mountains and yeah and you and your fucking husband can leave it any time and go

oh, we got to go to the fabulous Villaroma Motor Lodge powered by Cisco Food Systems and do some streaming with these bums so that people will send a few superchats. Everything I said was accurate. And now people are going to try to spin it. I just like that when he describes the vacation, they're staying at a farmhouse.

But then in the next sentence, when it's the gig, it's a motor lodge. It was the same place you were just talking about, but when you're trying to make it seem like she's slagging off. Everything he says 100% accurate because he knew that Cisco was the company that delivered the It's pretty good. I don't know how he knew that. It was spot on.

It's amazing. And the point that you made, and he was reviewing this, and he kept pausing it so that it got out of context, but you were talking about how when Aaron was confronted with the fact that Aaron Imel was confronted with the fact that it wasn't Adam Bush, he was super chatted him. And he goes, no, it was. was. I want to believe that, so I do believe that. And the point you were making to Mersh at the time is that he was all in on the fact that this was a vacation away from the kid.

And then we pointed out, no, the kid's here. And he doubled and tripled down on that. It was funny. It was a vacation away from the kid. You're like, well, you're allowed to like concede that you were wrong about that thing. It's fine. I'm wrong about things. I concede that I'm wrong about stuff. And so the fact that he's just like, nope, this is definitely a vacation away from the kid, like, he's running around on the stream. Yeah, I was like, what's this is coming in? The baby's there with him. Exactly. That's exactly what

I was saying. He actually said, that proves my point. And I was like, it's a stretch. Which, by the way, you can criticize this until you're blue in the face. I don't give a shit about criticizing this event and the live stream and all the shortcomings of all of this. The idea that it's like, it's all this or it's all that.

People who live in this world, I don't know how you survive this. This is why I guess you shoot political pundits in the neck because you're just like, it's either all this or all that. come down man this guy's got some points that guy's got some points if you're taking sides if you're like i'm the redskins and you're the bills you're lost so i saw like gino now all right let me stop talking get back doing that well thank you what i caught myself that time yeah chris knows what he's doing he really does he always does this i think this comes down to um what

i relate to about mersh and what we're both trying to figure out it's been the theme of this whole thing you're staying in a fucking Airbnb where you're in-laws and you're hanging with your pals eating fucking uncrustables and drinking white closet the goddamn villaoma i that sounds like a vacation if it's not a vacation then what the fuck is it great question i don't know and i'm trying to figure it out i really am it's exactly right and that sense you have that's like well it wasn't a show so it must have been a vacation it's something i don't know what But I'm really glad you're asking that because I agree and I'm still trying to figure it out. The only thing that, actually, no, you know what?

Play this next one that Mersh said because... Chrissy says the uncrustibles triggered him. I'm going to be honest. If we're eating uncrustables on vacation, I'm annoyed. Can we go out to dinner? We're on vacation. What are we doing? Sorry, keep going, Adam.

No, no, I think just play with Mersh says. this here I'm gonna agree bunch of fucking like literally I have nothing against these people but like the the idea that you're going to this it the place is a dump and you're going there to hang out with people who are mid which is fine just call it what it is never argue and no one's stopping these people from doing their own similar kind of event right yeah but nobody wants to it's a pain in the ass and and if I did an event it would probably be at a disappointing shit hole like this and it would look stupid and people would pick it apart and it would be a pain in the ass.

Right. That would be you. You would be the one picking it apart. And I get it. Society needs the deviant to show them when they've gone too far. There will always be one. We'll be there when you do it. But that's the part where I get, unfortunately, and it's so lame.

But that's where I get, like, emotional or I get triggered. Because when people are like, fuck them for trying, I get, fuck them for putting on a show. that's not what you do and I get it hip hop is not into live music but when you're in a band when you're a forgive me when you're a theater kid when you grow up with that thing that's me we have that I know it's embarrassing but that show must go on thing and we can't hide it and we just we finish what we start we want to complete it and Patrick Melton said it better than I could have or Merch could he really summed it up perfectly that feeling I had with this next clip.

Artie's Lounge. How did I forget that? I'm afraid to invite Murch to Hackamania. He's like, I don't do events. They're all gay. It's just that. That's it. When you come up with that, I'm like, hey, buddy, come on.

Come on. Yeah, like, what are we doing? Are we complaining about, so if you go see a rock band that doesn't perform, like, why even go to a rock band show? I mean, this one wasn't great, but I'm going to go. go see other ones. It might be good. Another man might pull it up.

I don't know. I'll tell you. And if you came up with the idea to try one, March, I wouldn't be like, don't try. I would absolutely critique it within the same vein, and it would be funny. But I wouldn't be like, don't try. And that's where I apologize.

If I got, you know, worked up at all, it was simply over that. Yeah. We have no problem with you criticizing the event or criticizing us. Or food or the acts or the quality. And I hope that it's, could criticize you back but apparently that's a bridge too far people get very upset when we

and also if criticizing and agreeing with all of the things that critics had to say about it is coping and not enough for you what is it you would like to hear what is it that would make you feel like we're being honest about our subjective experience because i'm telling you i've been doing conventions and appearances and shit like this on every level since I was very young. So I feel I have authority on very few things, but shitty gigs is something I can speak on with a bit of experience. You might have me beat in that department. Let's say something.

I started young. I've been mid my whole life. I've never, I know exactly what it's like. I know what mid is. I've been there. And yes, it is. No one's arguing that. Absolutely.

All right, I want to, we'll do this quickly. I want to talk about Steele Toe's reaction to this event that we had because Steeletoe always has his finger on the balls. Please, please, please, guys, stream labs, PayPal, Super Chats, Rumble Rants, Venmo. Maybe, you know what? Maybe we don't deserve it. You do deserve it, Aaron. Let's see what he's talking about here.

Nice try by Clippers Unite to start off the show. $1 says Chrissy's content hotel was a fantastic event. Congrats to Rich Voss as the new comedian who laughs at Steeleto. No, he didn't because Carl is so bad at doing a show. He kicked him off the show. And Rich was like, nobody's ever talked to me that way. Like what the fuck? He was like confused.

The show was a bomb. It sold like shit. And people were like, what the fuck are you doing? Why didn't she used to have Rich Voss on and do a show? Who cares? People were like, yeah. Keanu This is Keanu's take

It's just so happens That it's exactly Aaron's take as well What are you doing Why didn't you just have Rich Voss on and do a show Who cares about this steel toe guy It was fantastic to hear

I got a phone call on Friday Someone telling me all about it I'll go into detail tomorrow But I promise someone else I'd let them tell the story This herpes has not gone away And we all know you're talking about Keanu I promise someone else I'd love them telling the story.

I watched Tuki Soup last night. I know who told the story. Nice try, Clippers Unite, but it was another win for the toe. And then Carl was, like, crying about how bad his show. Oh, he's a very insecure boy. See, this is where Aaron could come up with a point. Because I called him to NLO, and I said, yeah, this show was embarrassing. Not the show itself, but the turnout, the theater, you know, whatever.

The H-GMI cable was so short, I had to stand behind. at a podium to be closer to the soundboots so that we could run the show. There's a lot of things that I would have hoped would have gone differently. But at the end of the day, it sounded like shit. It sounded great. Okay.

And Aaron could totally have made fun of me for any of these things, but he's so hyperbolic he can't get out of his own way. He said, Carl was crying after the show. I hung out till 6 a.m. With Adam, with Gino, Kiadu, my brother. Who else was there?

Everyone was out there hanging out. We were, there was no crying involved. It was a party. It's the opposite of crying. And it's, it's fine. Like, you can say that you have this inside information,

but like, why not just be a little bit realistic about it? Chris, how many shows have I cried after that you've seen? All right, don't answer that. I can see him doing the calculation in its head. Yeah.

He's a very insecure boy. Yeah, Clippers unite. No, I had someone call me and tell me about it. It was fantastic. But I do appreciate your cope. Yeah, that's beyond internet shit, dude. Like, take it from me as someone who's had...

That's going to get legal. Yeah, as someone who's been swatted, like, people release my address all the time. Okay. This... Get away from me. Who cares? Who cares about content hotel? We're moving on.

This is great. Aaron has two HROs out that are active, that he's still fighting in court against Nick Crater, lives an hour away, and Patrick Melton, who lives in Las Vegas, nowhere near St. Cloud, Minnesota. And I don't know that Aaron should be talking about this since they're both fighting these harassment restraining orders that don't allow them to be within 500,000 feet of Aaron because they're so scary and Aaron's so worried about Patrick Melton flying in from Vegas and harassing him and his daughter.

I don't know that he should be talking about this. and like that's way beyond the internet that's way beyond anything nobody should think that's all right i've had people you know sitting outside my house and when i go to you know be like what's doing they take off um i've had people take pictures of vehicles in uh outside my house um luckily i know who these people are i know their name i know their rap sheet and everything and if you know it continues what are you going to do people come to his house they're taking photos he knows their names they have rap sheets

they're criminals he's not taking out restraining orders against any of these people people who actually come to his house Pedro Bell's never been anywhere near Aaron's house Nickricade does not go to Aaron's house since they've not been friends anymore

but there's people he knows knows their name going to his house and are a threat they have rap sheets I don't need a restraining order against these guys I just see the guys who are making fun of me on the internet I just want to shut up the guys who are clowning me on the internet because I'm so afraid for my daughter

I know he's like a local celebrity but he has dreams of stardom what is he thinks gonna happen like maybe they're coming by to take pictures of the radio guy from the station they like he won't even assume maybe they're fans of steel to no he knows who they are they have rap sheets yeah it's the rap sheets yeah he's explaining these are criminals with criminal and criminals can't listen to

Stealto, we're being elitist now. I thought it was for everybody. By the way, if criminals are listed to WTP, we love you. Patreon.com slash who are these podcasts. Steal guy's wallet, sign up. You have a home here. Also to see Chad Zubach. Oh, we've got a new member.

It's cool. Rap sheets are public information. But that's my point is like if you go to someone's home and you're doing non-internet shit, you're doing weird stalkery shit, I have no problem with you exposing people, although I don't believe in giving out their address. like saying here's their name and here's what we know publicly about rap sheets and shit like that

to expose them as a fraud and a coward that's fine but telling them where they live is too far the address shit is fucked up like and it's not a defense to go like because all these people have released my information they've showed up at my house and all this other stuff that's not a defense to give out their address

right like I have no problem going so and so camps out outside my house and takes pictures of vehicles in my driveway. That's fine. You stand outside. You take pictures of someone's driveway. You deserve, you know, you should have the balls to at least be public with who you are.

Has Aaron done that? I'm starting to wonder. Has he posted on social media or on his show, so-and-so is camping out outside of my house and taking photos of the vehicles? Because he's just said that he does that and doesn't have a problem with it. Is there an example of this? I don't, I'm not all the way covered.

up on the lore. That's weird. Sounds like he's got some real fucking problems with stalkers the way he's describing this. It's very specific. Yeah. Like Aaron Immel is going to be in Detroit

this weekend. We'll be hanging out. It's a long way for him to go, but he's going to hang out with us and we'll have a good time. And what is camped out mean? It sounds permanent. You did.

Patrick Melton. Okay. Patrick Melton is coming to Detroit. Makes a lot more sense. It makes a lot more sense. I know. I'm getting very lost and confused with everything. I thought that was a big announcement. I was very excited.

No, no, no, no, no. He's not allowed to leave the state. He's not allowed to leave the state unless he's permission from a judge. He records a hilarious video and then just sends that. Right. But Patrick's coming and we're going to meet up with them in Detroit. And I never once thought like, oh, that's scary. Like, he's not a violent guy.

I'm not worried about it. I wouldn't think they'd get a restraining order against him. But there's these guys with rap sheets. These criminals. who are going to Aaron's house. He knows where he lives. And he's not doing anything about that. It's bizarre behavior, in my opinion.

Yeah, because, like, a lot of people are trying to compare this to, like, that paranoid schizophrenic guy who came and videoed our anniversary show on the orders of someone who legally isn't supposed to be ordering that kind of thing. Well, that's a weird accusation. He's saying schizochon was ordered by. Patrick Melton to record the 11th anniversary show. Was he also ordered to get kicked out of the Villaroma by Patrick Melton before WATP live on Friday night?

I don't know. I don't know what's going on. But Aaron just makes up this shit and just says it out loud. And it's going to get played in court. Like these things are going to get played in court. You have a restraining order against this guy. Now you just made up a thing where schizzo-Shun was not ordered by anyone to do anything. And I think he'd be offended by that, you know?

If I was like, all right, schizochshod, here's your next assignment. I'd be like, fuck you, Carl. It's not my job. Like, no, I was going to tell you to fuck Lucy typebox. We're friends. Oh, okay. All right. I, I, Captain.

Right. And that guy showed up to Chrissy's thing with the expressed intent to harass Gino and Keanu. Now, see, to me. So, again, he's getting information from people who are. actually paranoid. He called him a paranoid schizophrenic. But Gino and Keanu are the ones who were paranoid. This guy must have shown up here to fuck with us.

He literally bought a ticket for WATP. He's a fan of the show. He's mentioned that before. I was chatting with him a bunch at the show. But in their mind, he must be here to harass us. Now, did he harass them at Zio Tosomen? No. In fact, there's a photo of him with Aaron.

He was friendly with everyone. He was just there to report. He reported on a show that he saw. Thank you for that, Schittal, show. Watching these people try and explain taking pictures at an event as like a threatening thing, is really reaching. And it just sounds really silly. These are events.

Like, taking pictures is harmless enough, camped out at your house. You know, it's an event. People take pictures. Yeah. It's a very different thing, right? To be a crazy mental patient who can't differentiate the Internet from the real world. You are a danger. Like paranoid schizophrenics are dangerous people because the fact that you went to

What a bold comment that is. Point of order. I guess I agree with that. Well, you drove from Colorado to Minnesota. Then you drove from Colorado to New York. Right. To harass people with the intended statement to harass people. So, Gino, I guess what happened was this guy got super f***ed up.

bar and then he got kicked out of the Chrissy Mayer hotel that they were doing this event at and because he had snuck into a hotel room that was left open by a maid and he fell a he got up and he passed out in the hotel room they found out they kicked him out of the hotel they said you come back you're trespassing but Aaron you don't do drama I swear to God Aaron's been telling me for a month and a half he's not a drama show that's why his audience has shrunk down you just wants to cover the news and tell you what's going on. And I was talking about schizzo Sean

and why he got kicked out in the Villa Roma and Chrissy Mayer's event. This sounds like drama shit. What's going on right now? Did he lose the thread? Because he got back to drama. I know they're not in the same room, but Johnny always looks at Aaron

like he thinks Aaron's about to punch him. Like he always has that flinched face. Yeah, he does. Yeah. It's hard to look. Can I talk now? Nope. Fair enough.

He's been taught this. He tried to cry to somebody. I can't remember if it was one of the Dabbleverse podcast. He tried to cry to him and go, they kicked me out and I wasn't doing, like all of these lunatics and these mental patients. They've played the clip. I swear to God,

I watched his entire appearance on Young Clippa's show. And he goes, ah, I got too fucked up. I don't know what happened. It's probably my bad. I woke up into some weird hotel room. My clothes were wet. Security came.

Like, literally the opposite of all this. Like Schenzsche owned it. He's like, ah, I don't know. I probably, he even said, he goes, I heard of the double vodka Red Bull. I didn't need a double vodka Red Bull at the end of the night. I was good. And Aaron's take on it is he was crying to who would ever listen to him.

Oh, it's not my fault. Like the opposite of that. It's so annoying that Aaron is comfortable putting on a show that just lies to his audience like this. It's weird. They believe that like everyone is seeing their POV and that they're the hero of the story and everyone will just instinctually agree with this perspective even when it changes minute by minute

it's like they think we're all in their head it's weird even when there's receipts all over the internet doesn't matter doesn't matter he chooses to disagree yeah right cry to him and go they kicked me out and I wasn't doing like all of these lunatics and these mental patients

not only did he not say I wasn't doing anything he goes I don't know I might have gotten to a fight when I was blackout drunk he's like I don't know it's possible we call this an unreliable narrator wrong their entire lives right and Aaron's the one who's never done anything wrong his entire life he's the one who talks about like these drug addicts

people with rap sheets and people who bring their kids around bad behavior it's like Aaron you've done all this stuff and you've admitted that what do you mean everyone's always all blame they're a victim lady you know they're like an ex crew they're like a girlfriend that I've never done anything wrong everyone else is always doing things wrong to me it's probably part of the mental illness the paranoid

schizophrenia. Everyone's attacking you. Everyone's out to get you. This guy's handle a schizo shot. He's like, well, he's, you know, paranoid schizophrenic. So obviously, it's like, well, it's a handle, idiot. It's a diagnosis, yeah. Right. It's like when he was like,

Carl's club footed, holy shit, do people know about this? What's that like? You've got to take us through it. Fucking idiot. A couple voices in that head to snap and hurt somebody. I wouldn't want a paranoid schizophrenic around me ever. Speaking of voices in your head, how many times has Aaron hit the goal?

And he's yelling at me and Patrick Melted and Tuki immediately because he hit the goal. Take that, motherfucker. You didn't think I was going to hit the goal? You suck. Well, it's like, I'm not talking to you right now, man. I'm not watching your show. But anyone's got voices in their head. So this person, now if Chrissy would have said, get this person the fuck out of here, that would have been fine.

But she didn't. The venue, the hotel found out that he was a looney. tune who stole a hotel room essentially and was getting way too up and then he was going around bragging to other people at this event that he was going to with it it's like in my opinion chrissey was being too nice but the hotel took care of it because he's a i don't know if any of that's true i talked to this guy for a while he never claimed to be fucking with the show or heckling like he was literally a patron he was there in the exact same spirit that we were He wanted to see what was happening.

Yes. He wanted to be a part of it. So this guy goes, if you drive that many miles to harass people on the orders of another mentally ill person. How many miles can you drive to harass someone? It's okay. What's the cutoff on that? It was down the road. Oh, well, then sure.

Go ahead to harass them. Like, it's just crazy people talking to each other on the internet. You know, I think you deserve whatever you get at that point. whatever happens to you you deserve it you went out there to cause harm now gino how do you feel about charlie kirk oh i guess found his driver's license took a picture of his driver's license uh barred out the private the like the address and shit and then posted his first name and last initial on the driver's license on twitter and then people were not doxing yeah people yeah that's fucking awesome. You should definitely take

photos of people's driver's license that you find and post them on Twitter. That's fucking really cool, man. Aaron's about to hit him. I honestly don't get what their take is on this. I'm not sure. Crying and complete, Gino can't do that. Gino can't do that.

I can't watch this anymore. We've got to move out. When Eric gets performative about people's reactions to things, it's so frustrating. No one exists. the world. I come buckets, relax, and try to pork a kid seven years ago.

Carl, right. But he is on testosterone now, so maybe we should be nervous. It's a really good point. If I'm only joined the police force. Fuck. I miss my calling. All right. Let's play a game.

This has been going on way too long. We need to lighten the mood around here. And I'm excited to say that we have a stinger for our game. First, let me bring in review girl Megan. What's up, Megan? Hey. Hey, welcome. And Annie's here.

Oh, hello. Oh, hello. So check this out. This came in from Dylan Vance. Sent this in for us. It's time to play. Is it gay? Ladies and gentlemen, here it is.

this sounds incredibly fucking gay fantastic thank you for that that's great I love it all right everyone knows the rules so let's find out

is it gay it's holding us down well maybe the sheer weight of it yeah the weight but I mean it probably has something to do with your genetics being close to the equator and all your body parts are they sag

they droopy they droop because to get away from your body geographic tits those are horrible it's to get it's to cool your body that's why your balls

get saggy when it's hot out yep nature's air conditioner it's scrote yeah it just it sags away to cool itself so it's probably

well then why are Asians known as people with tiny penises because like Vietnam's hot as shit I don't know it's a maybe it's kind of a thing where it's just

less surface area Tain heat. Wow. All right. So this was a lot longer discussion. They're basically talking about how black men have big dicks. So because, you know. 90's shock jacker, Aaron Ivold.

Do you guys know that black guys have big dicks? And cooling. I don't know. Something about cooling. I don't know. I don't have a dick. So I don't know what these things are. but I made notes hold on okay all right are talking about men Asian men's dicks gay Annie

not for Aaron somehow so no not gay Chris I'm going not gay Carl I think it's like a clitoris so I'm gonna say not gay Adam I'm gonna keep it interesting I'm gonna go gay all right let's find out no you hesitating is right that got gay you're god damn of course that's gay I thought it was a trick question I'm an idiot I thought I thought that would I thought that would have been an easy one for you guys

I know it was it was a softball overthinking it Adam understood what was going on all right Adam's got the lead I'm gonna start my comeback guys I'm gonna set my comeback right now all right round two we went to Wild Woods

and Otsego I love that place never been it's right across from Rockwoods It's across the parking lot from Rockwoods. It's just a fun little place. It's got like three, four, five water slides. It's got a giant ass pool, a lazy river. You got basketball and all that shit.

Like myself and a couple of the other dudes that went, we all brought our kids. It's not like it was a bunch of dudes hanging out 38-year-old men, hanging out at a water park. Yeah. It was four groups of people that were there. four couples with children and um you no and i was one of the four i include myself and uh a bunch of 38 year old men playing basketball in a pool all right is it uh is going to a water park and

playing basketball with a bunch of 38 year old men gay we'll start with chris yes yes it is annie uh not gay adam Yeah, that's gay. Carl. It's so gay. You might look at that and go, that's weird. Oh, God damn. It's that weird, Aaron, it's gay.

Yeah, it's really not weird in any way. It's a pretty normal basic behavior. Yeah. All right. Round three, what's the score? Who's got what? Adam, tied with Annie. All right.

Andy Cohen hosted the Howard Stern Show. today. Gay. I know you're expecting a big announcement from Howard and this is not how things were meant to go. This was supposed to be a cleaner handoff. I'm kind of winging it and calling it a surreal

moment here. I'm calling bit. I'm calling bit. You don't leave a gig you've done for 45 years and just not go. You go on the air and you make a big deal of it. This is a bit. This is phony.

I'm calling bullshit. Or he's sick with something. Well, he's always sick. Yeah, but I mean, like, really, like, maybe he can't. No. And he doesn't want people to, no. I'm a radio guy at heart. That's my background.

That's my, it's just there's an instinct. This is a bit. Okay. Let's play devil's advocate here. All right. Is it gay of Howard Stern's announcement wasn't a bit? I'll start with you, Carl. All right.

I'm going to say it's gay. Adam? Yeah, any bit involving the top gay is by definition gay. The top gay. That's Andy Cohen, yeah. True. Annie? First, I just want to give a weird compliment to Johnny.

However he has his screen set up, he always looks like he's looking directly at Aaron, even though he's not in the same room. It's kind of impressive. It is. Gay. I'm just saying, I'm sorry to Adam this whole time when we have this. I also like gay. Is everyone going gay on this one?

Four G's. Let's go. If it's not, though. Then it's gay. Yes. I'm on the board, baby. Even though everyone got that one right. I'll take it.

All right. We're going to round four of, is it gay? And don't steal a baseball from a kid. You know what you do, by the way? If you're my age and you, and let's say I'm, you know, I'm tall. than a lot of people. And I catch that home run ball. And there's like a kid.

And there's a kid there. You take that ball. You give it to the kid. You're 38-year-old ass. Like if I'm with my son, I give it to my son. Fuck your kid. I don't care. Like I give it to my kid.

My kid gets the ball. Your kid can fuck off. But if you're by yourself or you're with friends or whatever, say you have a guy's day at the ball game, you catch a ball. You give it to the kid. All right. Is taking a home run ball

from a kid gay I'll start with Annie Not gay Chris Not gay Carl I also don't think it's gay

Adam It's not gay All right You don't What's your 38 year old ass Going to do with a baseball You fucking gay guy Oh shit

Well done, Megan I forgot he hates sports. Does he not realize that he was describing himself as that Karen woman? It was crazy and gay. I'm sorry, it was gay. It was real gay. I want to tell a quick anecdote real quick. I caught a baseball at a baseball game,

and I immediately handed it to this little kid in front of me. That's what you're supposed to do? You know, I'm not gay. And the kid grabbed the ball and chucked it at this girl's hat and hit it right in the back of the head. And it was the best thing I could have done with that baseball. I never stopped laughing. I'm still laughing now about it. It was a little kid.

He doesn't throw very hard. The girl was fine. But it was very funny. But that's how your dad met your mom. That's how it all wrapped up. It's a meet you. Eight seasons. All right.

I think this is round five. Did I grab the right link? What's, uh, yeah, here it is. RFK Jr's a joke. He sucks. He's terrible. I'm like, I don't understand you attacking him. Literally all he's trying to do is help.

And he doesn't need to help. help. He's got Kennedy money. He's got money from when he was a lawyer. This guy's a lawyer who's been suing the drug and insurance companies his whole life to get them to stop pulling bullshit. And you're going to be like, this guy's an asshole. It's like, what? Well, I mean, two things can be true. He did drive home with like the head of a whale carcass on his car. Bear, thank you. Or was it both? No, I think I thought it was a whale. Oh, you're right. It was a whale. He drug a whale carcass into his car. He drug a dead bare body into the bike trail

in Times Square. God, there's nothing gay about this, but God. He's an animal lover. We get it. All right. Is it gay that RFK Jr. has dragged dead animals on his car? Adam?

It's not gay. Chris? Not gay. Annie? I can't. I can't see how it could be gay. So not gay? Carl.

Fuck it. I knew it wasn't gay, but I'm going gay just because it'll get me a point. Give me the advantage. But it's definitely not. Let's find out. No,

that's a... Central Park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Central Park. Yeah, he's a goof. Look, he's a weird fucking guy, but those are... We're writing those off as practical joke.

Oh, so, Kate... I've learned something here. Okay, this is interesting. Everything's either gay or weird. Yeah, it's... That's the game. That's the game. It was a gay or weird.

And Aaron's right about this. What RFK's juders up to is weird. So, damn it. I didn't know about the whale carcass. I knew about the bear. I'd heard about that. How small a whale are we talking? How big of a car are we talking?

I know. All right, what's the current score, producer Chris? We got a bonus round. Adam and Annie tied with three apiece. So it's anyone's game is what you're saying. Oh, no, just between those two. You're trailing with one. I know.

I'm not pretending I'm good at this game anymore. All right. Final round between Adam and Annie. Let's go. Is it gay? You know, the first time I went to Las Vegas when I was 21, I went with my girlfriend at the time. Her name was Laura.

And my girlfriend, Laura, was, she was drinking Budweiser on the strip. We would stop at the little convenience stores. And she would, this is when Vegas was fun. And it was like cheap. wasn't like, oh, my God, look at all these corporate high-rise luxury condos. It was fun. It was for white trash. It was awesome.

By the way, tourism in Las Vegas down for the sixth straight month. Las Vegas has become too expensive and less white trash. Is that gay, Annie? I think it's gay. Adam? That's not gay. Oh, wow. It comes down to this.

I think it's gay. Chris. Totally gay. And I don't even saying that Aaron thinks that. I personally think that it's gay. I'd like to beg us to be cheaper. So that's my take. All right.

So we got Annie's gay. Adam's not gay to determine who wins this round. Am I right? Mm-hmm. Here we go. Because the town just sucks now. It's fucking gay. Whoa.

Annie. Yeah. For the win, Annie rules of this game. Congratulations. I know my gay It's quite impressive I'll give you a little The kids are happy to see this

Adam I'm sorry It was a hard fought battle You almost had it But you can make it all up When we poke a dabbler Oh That's right The games don't end there

Merce if you want to come on to poke a dabbler with us more than welcome to he should play as a game with us I think he'd do pretty well at that we don't have to talk about content I don't know we just play games together yeah today's edition of topoka dabbler has been preempted

at the request of Carl and Adam Bush in its place we bring you a special presentation of to squirsch the Mersh what do you say ladies and gentlemen are you ready to squirsch

The Mersh. It almost sounds like I was prepared for this. I was not. I do not watch any of these things in advance. Adam, get back here. I trust these idiots. By any of it, I was talking about you, Megan. Whoever puts together these games shows for me, I just trust that they're going to do a good job.

The Mersh. Mersa says there is no record of you ever being a member. Are they lying? They're not allowed to ever say if I'm a member or not. If you know the rules of Mensa, you are not. you are not allowed to reveal who's in MENSA. It's a private club. Look it up.

Try and find any member of MENSA. There it is. All the people in Menta on Wikipedia. Whoops. They will not reveal the members of MENSA ever. They're not going to do it. It's kind of like a secret society. Penis wrinkle.

Alex wiped away. you a hundred dollar bet not to block him, Welcher. I only blocked him because he went back and reneged on our agreement to not trash each other. He drew first blood again.

Detroit Dabler, why so sensitive about Stein's comments? Must be true. Okay. It's not the inaccuracy of the comments. What did John say next. Here are your choices. Number one, it is the fact that everything he said was a lie. He's a liar. B, it's because he stabbed me in the back, behind my back.

Next, it is the thought process behind it, dummy. four it is a simple thing called loyalty and he like you fail the test and lastly

it's how he did it so publicly in front of everyone to poke a dappler I'm going to go with lastly and what do you think I'm going with the first one

number one so you think it is the fact that Everything he said was a lie. He's a liar. What do you think, Megan? I don't know. I saw Annie make a face at that one, but I'll go with B.

It's because he stabbed me in the back behind my back. Says Megan. I don't know. It's probably not that one. I lose confidence immediately, too. It's fine. I'm also going to pick B because it's the stupidest. Producer Chris.

We're in it together. I went lastly. so I pick up on patterns in these types of multiple choice questions and I think it's lastly because it's how we did it so publicly in front of everyone repeats the same concept and I think Cardiff heard that and went oh what are the other things he could say stand me in the back behind my back said I was he's a lie he's a liar that's why I thought it was that let's see if I'm right about this if I am I'm going to gloat Detroit tabler why so sensitive about Stein's comments. Must be true. Okay. It's not the inaccuracy of the comments. It is the thought process

behind it, dummy. Oh, shit. I'm way off. I should not have called my shot on that one. I'm pointing to the fucking left field bleachers, and I'm like, whoa, SWATTS-3. Oh, whoops. My bad. How do you get it funded by somebody's thought process? Like, how are you in on that? Yeah, that's really stupid. Did we all lose that one? We did.

And the answer, Adam, is MENSA. I'll write that down. Is why attack somebody? Who's your friend? Oh, God. Detroit Dabler. That's all for this time. Come back next time to find out if you are man enough to poke a dabbler.

sit eugene sit good dog do do do do do do do do we all miss cardiff yeah it was great we all miss carth I hope he's back soon yeah but we appreciate him putting together games for us I'll have a game for us in Detroit we'll be in Ferndale Michigan this weekend

looking forward to that we're going to get into some voicemails we're a week behind because we had the live show but are there any new reviews or Spotify comments that we want to go through before we do that? Yeah, I pulled a few. Since I didn't read the one from last week, episode 653, I have one from that one.

Okay. From Gerund 32, saying, no more Aaron, please. He's insufferable. Everything else is great as always, five stars. Well, thank you for that. Sorry, we have to cover Aaron. He's too much of a retard. Yes. I have one from episode 654 from Dan Graham. I'm with Mersh. Content Hotel Stinks.

Very good. Thank you for your, thank you for your comment. And then I have one- I'm hoping, Megan. I like Mersh. Episode 655, I have a comment from ASAPQ. I'm starting to think the suttering John guy is not cool. you'll figure it out eventually take your time you get caught up do we have any any new reviews Annie

yes I have one coming in from church Smith over on Apple and that's where most of them come in at this one says it took me 800 or sorry 500 episodes to figure out I would rather listen to ASMR of hemorrhoids slowly exploding and the ensuing screams of horror as the

bloody sheets are discovered, then listen to this show. Do hemorrhoids slowly explode? Has that ever been a thing? They explode or seep, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explode implies it's a very quick process. Is that a five-star review? That one is, yes.

All right. I like it. So stupid. Two bucks. Mike Boudet was supposed to be at the hotel. Mike Boudet was there. I hung out with them on Thursday night at Dave Landau's show. And then he got ill.

And we didn't see him the rest of the weekend. And then he dedicated the next episode of Sort and Scale to us. So thank you, Mike Boudet. It was really cool hanging out with him in person for the first time. I wish you would have hung out more. Could have gotten a selfie with him, been a cool guy with a celebrity. He had the fish. Although I never did ask for a selfie with Adam.

I guess that was me and I just said that. Guys, our voicemail segment has been rebranded the rock and roll a voicemail segment. That's beautiful. I know. And tribute to Gary in San Diego. Rock and hello. Gary from. Sorry.

Were you plays? How we go ahead? I was playing. Rock and roll. Perfect. Gary actually called in from heaven. This is exciting. Hey, Carl.

Gary from San Diego here. This is how I sound in heaven. Stunt Joe is back. Still lip smacking. Mm-hmm. All right. I got to go, haunt Judy's butthole.

Rock and roller. All right. Isn't that sad? You go to heaven? you still have to hear John Lipsmacking. I am glad that he's in heaven, though. That's good news. Hey, guys, Stiltill definitely hit the goal,

but you just don't know if she goes to another school. Chris, call me back. Okay. I like that. So I was like, whoa, he's got a huge donation, and you can't see it, but trust me, we totally hit the goal today. I was listening to the podcast this weekend,

hoping, please don't play my voicemail after Carrie. Please don't play my voicemail, but you did. Gary, San Diego, we will miss you. And shout out to Paco. Please call in. Make sure you're okay, too. And people are concerned about other voicemails. I haven't heard in a little while.

Paco probably isn't with us anymore, but whatever. We'll find out when we find out. But that was the guy who called him, which was like, hey, what's up with Gary and San Diego? Yeah. It's like, bad news. All right. Boner guys calling him.

Carl, love you, love the show. Just a really quick one. It is my birthday, fortnight, and obviously months as well. And so everyone's helped me celebrate that, I'll be so happy if they could drop a like and subscribe to your channel. And why not put a comment on your video as well? And vote for you, Carl, at thecreepoff.com as well. God knows I need to vote at the creepoff.com.

God knows. I still haven't done. My contract goes, I've got to do Suttering John's stand-up routine and an open mic. Oh, I know. Vinny's up three to one right now So vote for Carl I brought it this week I totally deserve it

Well I don't like that look I totally deserve it this week Fuck off Oh yeah This is like people are doing Signoffs now on the voicemail Okay bye God I fucking hate that sign off

Yeah it's not the best I agree with you on that Hey Carl I just wanted to let you know that wean isn't nearly as cool as you think it is and um you should fucking kill yourself uh i hate you and i hate wean and it sucks and every time you bring it up on the fucking podcast it makes me upset and sad also uh say hi to mike for me bye i will do i bring up wean a lot it comes up it does it does listen to bear ghost specifically listen to bear ghost

everyone fuck weed it's all about bear ghost I made edible to that on the way to the airport ah ha ha ha ha ha why are we laughing they're great check it out cow photographer calls in listen up you butt-tooth screwhead

it's the cow photographer renfair are you retarded the largest renaissance festival is in Houston Texas the largest is a festival, not a fair.

A fair is gay. Festivals are cool. So, you know, get fucked. Why are we bringing up old shit? I know. I think Calvert might be an episode or two behind. We've squashed this beef. I think we're beyond this now.

Here's a tribute to Gary. Just calling in to pay my respects to Gary. I was honored enough that he actually responded to a question I asked him over the voicemail. even though he did get my name wrong, but all good. Rock and Roller, buddy, and I hope you have a good time in heaven. Rock and roll. I think that everyone agrees that he's in heaven. Probably not true, but I like people.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, easy there. We have listeners in Russia. I'm not even joking about this. This is where this phone call came in from. Hey, Carl. My name is Constantine. I'm from Russia, a long-time listener. Basically, what I want to tell you is that we are talking to fucking children, right?

If you take O.P. and stuttering John, like, who the fuck talks like that? Who the fuck talks like that? Unless you're, like, in a cartoon from 1990s. Yeah, very cool, dude. Like, what the fuck is this voice? It shouldn't be. not be. Anyway, love from Russia. Hope you're doing great and everything.

I think that the Russian listeners are picking up on the accents, people talking like children on here. We'd not have expected that. Thank you very much, Constantine. Thanks for calling it. Oh, Adam. I don't know if you're going to like this one. Hey, Carl Rani in Syracuse, love you, love the show, listening to the Content House episode on Sunday. guys are talking about John and Vince trying to get John to pay, but to have poker might pay him to be his friend $1,000. Listen, Anthony has said, if this was a character, it'd be great.

I cannot believe how stupid John is at 60 years old. It is astounding. It is baffling to me how dumb John is with this whole premise that this guy wants John to take him back into his good graces and his woman to pay him money. It is absolutely insane. Adam Bush, get closer to the fucking microphone. Don't call me back.

Thank you. This guy gets it. Don't know why you're so afraid of that fucking microphone, Adam. I'm not going to tell you again, although I will. It was because we weren't in the headphones at the content house, so you can't hear that air. That's probably too. This is a message for you, Adam. My name is Peter Zarr, and this message is for Adam Bush.

Adam, I've become a fan of you in your work since you surfaced in the Davyverse. But for an artist with such an impressively diverse uva such as yours, I'm surprised how little I actually know about you. My favorite bit of yours is how you value your precious time on this earth so little that you'll appear on any podcast that asks you, and they'll just sit there and talk for hours. I don't have a podcast, but my question for you is if you would like to call me on the phone and we can, like, chat for 10 minutes or something, I'd take great joy in getting a private insight as to how and why you think the way that you do. I feel like we'd hit it off because I use words like Uvra and insight in casual conversation and I bet you do too

If you want I guess you can get my number From this voicemail thing Or you can just give out your number on the show And I'll call you tonight after work Whatever's easiest Thanks everybody And want to give out your number

I'm going to go with gay All right That's a 215 I'll give you his number off air So you can call them up And I only sit there for so long because I can cut it up and bring it back here and we can talk about it

and if you wait long enough good stuff will happen I'd be happy to talk to you for five minutes on the phone I'll give you five minutes oh that's nice yeah I was listening to Mersh I guess you said you would go on his show and Mersh was like I know what you're up to

you're gonna come to my show your clips and play it on WTP it's like well yeah it's the problem but also I wasn't I wasn't going to do like an interview I was going to just talk about this stuff where someone could ask follow-ups and pushbacks,

et cetera. I agree. Last one. The Lady Kay nickname is out. It's Carl the Hun now. Holy shit, Carl. Get on that microphone or all fucking shit down your neck. That was awesome. Deluxe, Carl.

I think that was actually a ruse. I think you guys organized that. I think that was a work. I think that was to deflect so that Gino didn't beat you up. You play a tough guy, you coordinated with Adam, so Gino didn't kick your ass. Peace. God damn, Delox knows everything that's going on behind the scenes. How is that possible?

Except that if Gino was in public and he wasn't performing, he was asleep. He was asleep in the dining room. He was asleep at dinner. He was asleep in both gigs. He slept in every gig. So I don't think he was kicking a lot of ass. Yeah, no, definitely that wasn't his thing. But, Annie, where can people find you?

If they want to check out what I'm up to Go to Insanity.com I N-S-A-N-N-E-I-T-Y.com I mostly play video games That's what I'm up to most of the time Sounds fun Anna Bush, anything to promote Oh, I'm gonna go jump off a bridge

As soon as this is done so Hopefully it's not a tall bridge You'll be all right Just break some legs or something Producer Chris I'll see you in Detroit I'll see you in Detroit Sounds like an insult

See you in Detroit that if I'd see you first Megan Have fun in Detroit, guys All right, that's a great plug Take lots of fun pictures this time I know, have a good time We never do that and be careful

Bye Bye Boom, I'm playing his hit volley Vinny Paulino Cause he's so fat Boom I gotta go, bye I got to go, bye

I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. Okay, bye. That's serious mental illness.