Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep665 - BARQ!cast

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

This very special episode marks the return of Mean Doug and Kaya Orsan talking about furries. But not just any furries, these “celebrity” furries started a furry dating app and a podcast. That’s right, a dating app for furries so you know what that means - NO GIRLS ALLOWED! Doug and Kaya checked out different episodes of these degenerates that include a Chinese furry who was groomed by a college professor. We celebrate Jocktober with Jubal, the morning jock who is also a standup comedian and rapper. His character Trevor makes a fake prank call that makes zero sense and then he interviews himself. Bert Kreischer was a guest on TigerBelly with Bobby Lee and Khalyla Kuhn where he talks about his desire to stop podcasting and become a pornographer. Kaya and Doug did a little extra homework and decided to introduce us to a sex doll podcast featuring creeps who sell child sex dolls. Like, for real. Stuttering John deletes his Friday video (we have it) because he showed porn on his stream. But it’s not his fault, he didn’t know! We finish up with a round of To Poke A Dabbler, Internet News, and your voicemails. Doug’s podcast - https://whosrightpodcast.com/ Kaya’s stuff - https://www.twitch.tv/kayaorsan and https://kick.com/kaysan Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've all listened separately, not discuss it with each other beforehand. It's a show hosted by Banjo and Harvey. They went up on YouTube in October of 2024, so they've been there about a year now. They have a little over 4,500 subs on their channel. Their videos get usually between 5 to 6,000 views. There's one from a couple months ago that has 12,000 views. And let me read you the description of this channel. Then we'll get into it.

Hey, we're Bark, the next generation social app for furries by furries. Welcome to the home of all things Barkcast, our podcast by Banjo and Harvey. I'm going to start us off, guys. I have a little introduction to who these guys are, and then we'll get into it. Hey, hey, everybody, names Banjo. And I'm Harvey. And welcome to episode 17 of the Barkcast, the podcast produced by Bark, which is a furry social media app made by you guessed at Furries for. You also guessed it, furries.

And with us today, we have two amazing fuzzies. Our favorite blue bunny first, welcome on back. Glad to have you, as always. But anyways, the main guests of this episode, Max Fluffy, welcome on in. Oh, my goodness. Wow, he's really fluffy guys. I can't really believe it, but he is. It's amazing.

Okay. If you're listening to this, what we're watching are V-tubers, our animated furries. that are pretending to be in the same room, although they are not, and do a show together. And, Kai, I saw you on your Kick Channel talking about these guys a little bit. Apparently, Bark is a dating app for Furries? It is, yes. I found this out only through Twitter, because if you want to, I sent you a screenshot.

It's in the folder. If you want to put up Bark censored, PNG, I saw this come across my timeline because this app got banned in Russia for being too gay. Vladimir Putin personally Put the plug on these guys and banned them from the entire Russian Federation and I had to look into it I figured what the hell is Bark

So it's B-A-R-Q Dot app If any of your furry listeners want to go there And like check out and socialize I give you a couple of screenshots Like Bark Zero through 2 If you want to check those out It's basically

What I imagine Grindr is But exclusively for furries They make themselves profiles There's a guy called shark Hey, I'm shark, I make music and love to cook I also play video games and love table tops So it's just a profile and it's a shark with muscles and a bulge He's a pansexual male who is single

See, this is the question I had for you, Kaya Because it seemed like the episodes that I listen to Not only are they furries, but they're all gay men Yeah, and women aren't allowed in the furry fandom I mean, yeah I can't at the top of my head I don't think I've ever met a female furry. Anyway, I made a profile, if you want to put up bark profile.

Okay, of course you did. That's Doug right there. Is anyone interested in Doug out here at all? No, it took me all of, the kickstream you mentioned, it took me all of like 30 minutes to get banned. If you want to put up bark bands, immediately. Before you do that, how come you didn't make me a bear, obviously? Right. Well, I made you a walrus.

Your so your first sona is Mr. Snorkels, the Walroof. It's cute. Yeah, anyway, I got banned immediately for, what does it say? It says your profile has been banned for violating our terms of service. Please contact appeals at bark.com if you believe this is a mistake. Yeah, I don't know if they looked at me and I didn't look gay enough. I don't know if I need to like curl my hairs more or what. But anyway, this is Barks.

It's basically Grindr for gay, man. You nailed it. Okay. And I also have an intro clip. Well, maybe yours was better, but just play my clip too. And I apologize for the shitty naming scheme on these clips. No worries. What can you do?

Hey, hey, everybody. Names Banjo. And I'm Harvey. And welcome to episode 15 of the Barkcast, a podcast produced by Bark, a furry social app made by our furries. Furfurries, for furries. Got it. Got the line. And with us today, we have two amazing fuzzies, our rotating host and guests from last

episode, Snazzy Vaca. Welcome back. Glad to have you. Welcome back to Nazzie. They're very gay, as you can tell. So this is what I was struggling with, because we haven't really tackled furries in a while. There was a time on this show. We talked about furies quite a bit, and I learned a lot about them.

And one of the things I remember learning is that furries get very insulted when you act like this is a sexual thing they're doing. Like, no, no, no, no. I just have a fursona, and I like to be a wolf or a kitty cat. And then it turns out, like, everything is tied to sex, it seems like, with this show. Well, that's what surprised me about episode 15. If you want to play my clip one, is they give you a warning at the beginning for sexual content, which surprised me. As viewers, before we do this episode, I just want to let you guys know this episode is a little more sexual than usually. We had pent-up pup on.

You guys don't see that at a second. Just be warned. There are some pretty crazy topics we go through. So you have been advised now. animation's really lacking on that one. Yeah, I know, usually their production value is pretty

it's decent. You have to admit, they have a 3D studio, everything is animated including the microphones and that sign in the back and they have like nicely modeled

3D fur suits and everything. Even their name tags bounce up and down for no reason. So yes, it is very animated. This was a passion project. You can tell they're enjoying

themselves. I just didn't understand why the not safer work warning, like you're fairies. Yeah, of course. It's a gay sex cult. The most recent episode, so they don't have that disclaimer at all. So I guess they've given up on this.

They realize, you know, that it's going to be. I'm going to play something real quick just because we're talking about the sexuality here, and then I'll pass it over to Doug to see what he picked up on. So they have this guest on Max Fluffy, and they're nervous about Max Fluffy. Like, this guy is a celebrity. I looked up his Twitch. He's got like 31,000 subs on there. So it's a pretty big deal.

And he was born in Argentina. He lives in Germany now. and so they ask a question about coming to the U.S. Have you been to America before? Wait, I saw you at MFF last year. Yes. From a distance. I just looked at you.

Let's go. Yeah, MFF was my first American convention. So this guy's very well prepared. You ever been to the U.S. before? Yeah, we saw you at the convention last year. Oh, right. Yeah, I guess that would. So he's at MMF, which is the Midwest Fur Fest.

and they talk about this is what I wanted to get to here is what's going on there's 13,000 furries that show up to this convention so what do you think is going on there Tennis was what 13,000 I don't even know 13 14,000 it was big it was in the tens

of thousands it was in the tens of thousands it was big enough where you'd walk through the sky bridge and it was all moist and there was just liquids on the walls oh my goodness that's fire that was fired There's come everywhere I was slipping down the hallway

It's fucking great What a fun time that was I swear there was a time The furies were offended If you thought that they were just jerking each other off In their fur suits I know And now it's like

The thing, listening to the show I noticed they're almost endearing Or they would be If I didn't have all of that knowledge Of them like taking a shit in the hotel pool And leaving diapers in the hallways And everything You know

Is that what they're up to? Yeah It's very, I don't know. They used to do fun things like jerk off on pizza and eat it. Now they're shitting in the pool. That's not cool. Doug, you were tortured with this. I was.

I found a good clip. It's probably the most articulate way I've ever heard anybody describe that they do, in fact, have a lot of faggots in the club that they're in. Clip number 10, if you can play that. It definitely is, yeah. I mean, like, queerness and fairies are like inexorably linked together. You can't have, like, the, like, vibrancy of the furry community without that, like, underlying queerness as a bedrock. Okay, everything about that sucked.

What is that music that's playing at the background? I went back to episode number one, and every one of my clips has that. Oh, that's annoying. I'm glad they realized not to do that anymore. Or it was inadvertently playing on my system, and I accidentally... That's probably what happened. No, it just sounds like it's like a nursery school music, and they're talking about fucking each other in the ass. It's just, you know, there's a little bit of a disconnect there.

Maybe someone brought it up, like, maybe I had the kid music in the background while you're doing that. Well, now that you say that, speaking of kids, if you play my clip, clip number 13, he's one of them's talking about how Spirit Halloween now sells furry heads or whatever they're called. And I think he accidentally lets the kid out of the back. I have conflicted thoughts on that, because on one hand, I think it's great for, like, in terms of accessibility, for, like, maybe younger furries or people who are, like, kids or kids. Yeah, I can see that would be a problem. That's the rub on these guys, right? Because kids like to dress up as furry animals. Play my clip 14.

Okay. I have the same clip, but a little more context around it. They talk about how it's perfect for Spirit Halloween. to be carrying like furry adjacent costumes. Okay. For little children to get into the fandom. What does Spring Halloween stuff? What I see happening is somebody who's already destined to be a furry,

like a, like a kid coming in and be like, oh my God, I can wear that. Yeah. See, this is the problem because if there's underage people, you wouldn't know because they're dressed up and you just, all you see is their asshole, you know, before you put your dick in it. And so that could be like illegal. would think.

Perfectly smooth and hairless. Do you shave back there? Don't answer that. I don't want to know. It's great. I just like the idea that like somebody who is destined to be a furry, it's like an eight-year-old looking at a Paw Patrol costume. Like, yeah, I want to be, I want to suck dick when I grow up.

I want to be gay and have HIV. Is that a thing children aspire to when they go into the Spirit Halloween? How long have you been in the States? Yes. They do now. That's what they want to do. Now, this is totally for children. They even sell, and I know you were watching this on your stream, they sell this plushy.

So Banjo's the host there? Well, you got something for this guy? Well, I know what your audience loves, and it's advertising. Can you play my clip by Banjo? Yep. Hey, you, have you ever wanted a banjo plushy? No. But the possibilities are limitless.

You don't need that pillow? Banjo plush. That's a good-looking hot dog, but what about a hotter dog? That friend of yours is born? Well, don't worry. We got a banjo pluss to fix that. Tired of your partner, don't worry. We got you covered.

Who's the banjo plush? And the banjo plush is loved by all. Listen to these friendly faces. Oh my goodness. Banjo plushy. Oh, is it so amazing. I love it. I love it.

I love it. Wow. I'm banjo. Banjo. How did you, how did you get back into the plushy right now? Everybody just loves the plushy. I love watching Chris's face during this. One more second, just tell him about the plushy.

What? help. I mean, I just love the plushies so much. You can pledge to get it for $2. Right now, over at Lincoln Bio. And you'll get charged the rest. Okay, so the way they started off the most recent episode is with this. Hey, Barcast listeners, Harvey here. Just wanted to announce that our banjo plushie with makeshap has officially been created and is ready to be purchased. Heading over to Make Ship and search a banjo. Or we'll have it link down below and get your pause on this fluffy fella. Enjoy the episode. So that's why I was so jarring. I'm like, oh, this is for children.

I wrote my notes. Oh, this is for children. And then they're talking about slipping down the cum hallway at MFF. Like, what the fuck? Well, I don't know if you notice that plushy has a butthole. It does. Maybe it's a flashlight or something. Oh, yeah.

It's very overstimulating in parts. At least the advertising is for sure. The butthole's an X. That means don't go there. No, it means it marks the spot. Oh, okay. That makes more sense. You've solved the puzzle.

Doug, what was happening in the first episode? Any fun things to point out? Well, they got into a little bit of how they discovered their mascot. Does they choose? Or furry, what, Fisona, yeah. Yeah, how they discovered that. Clip number 17 is Harvey talking about how he got into it. It's going to tell a lot, everyone a lot about us.

How did we all get into the furry fandom? Harvey, I'll give you the privilege of going first. Oh, dude My story Dude, my story's bad man It's real bad Oh, I'm excited for this Let's hear it

Oh, okay, okay, all right But so But I haven't heard this I'm going to make a prediction He fucked his dog I'm gonna I'm gonna spoil it for you I'm gonna spoil it for you

It's two autistic people That never get to the fucking point Oh, all right, damn it I think in middle school I was starting to figure out what furries were and the whole fan of it. I didn't really understand the whole concept. Oh, okay. So in my

middle school, we were privileged enough to have iPads for every student. Did you have iPads? Somehow. What in the fuck? And then they talk about iPads. That doesn't answer the question at all. He's right. This is a bad story. Well, okay, so I have an example of that was Harvey talking, right?

Yeah. Harvey's an idiot. He is not good at running the show. That's a good question. Like, I don't know. No. Um, no. What? Oh.

Whoa. I just lost my train of thought. Oh my God. Choochoochoo. Banjo, how we find it? How do we find it? Oh, my God. I hope they're on drugs.

I hope there's an excuse for this, right? Probably. I have a sneaking suspicion that banjo is on something in the episode that I listen to. Um, we'll get to those clips. But first, I forgot. Uh, To quickly go back to the Spirit Halloween stuff. Yeah.

So there's a thing apparently in the furry community where they want to basically gateskeeper, like keep it pure. They don't want Normies to come in and like, hey, you guys are weird. Like, what's with all the HIV and come eating pizzas, you know? Right. They want to keep a computer. Us Normies do frown out of those sorts of things. Yeah.

It's true. Play clip 11. Okay. It looks like Spirit Halloween is selling even more fur cheese this year. They sold some last year, but they're introduced They have like kimono heads They have like That's crazy

Western looking suits And I think that's definitely a sign of things to come It seems like there is some like a lot of people like Oh yeah It's accessible you know Fur suit options for kids I think this is great But also a lot of people are like pushing back against the

Like Keep free weird And just Yeah that whole Keep free weird You're fine Yeah you have to worry about that Yeah

It's like a mainstream. They're really overthinking it, right? I mean, if you go, again, into a costume store, this isn't the sort of stuff that you're thinking about. Meanwhile, these guys, they walk past the, like, glass, and they're like, oh, I can't believe it. Like, children are playing with our fur suits now. Dude, that was like when the first skateboard shop opened in the mall,

and I'm like, oh, fuck you. You can't have a skateboard shop in the mall. That's not for you fucking normies who hang out at the mall, you assholes. I get it. I understand. But it's a scary. time right now for furries Kaya

Positively Doing it solo is scary I couldn't imagine There's like some people There's some people react very negatively Especially in like America right now And it's like it's kind of like Like I like a couple years ago

I used to like first shoot in Walmart It's like a joke But now I'm like scared too I don't know I don't know It's just like scary Yeah I've only had one

I've only had one negative experience Uh Like I was well Okay I'm not gonna say what city I was walking in, but I was walking in this city and then I overhear someone

saying that they wanted to like hunt furries classic. I was like, okay. It's hunting season. Are you in first? No, I wasn't. I wasn't in first city. See, that's how, that's how like common like, that's how popular furries are now. That like just random

people will be talking with them in the street. I bet that was Cincinnati. Fired a guess. Which city I'm not going to say? Who cares? So, yeah, apparently people are talking about hunting furries, just random conversations walking down the street. That's not fun. I want to hang out with those guys.

This is the civil rights issue of our era. Right. One of the things that I have a hard time understanding with this whole culture is how you can be a furry but never have even been in a fur suit. Oh, yeah, that is true. Clip 11 is he, I think it's donuts on this. episode talking about it. Donuts, do you have a...

I'm not sure, if I know this, do you have a partial? I don't have a suit, no. I've actually never even worn one. I would like you someday. Do you have a tail? Really? Interesting. I do technically have a tail, but it's like my merch. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. Guys, check out donuts.

So, Kai, please explain this to Doug and me. We're confused. What's going on? The tail? No, the fact that he could be a furry without having a fur suit. well i mean it's i guess it's like being gay without have ever been like had a guy fuck you in the butt you can still know you're gay right hmm interesting i don't you're asking the wrong guy it's not like i'm into the fucking furry fans i don't know what i sound too defensive you're a little too defensive right there yeah you should have led with that dummy

hmm let's see what i got ass sex is free though i think that's the difference right like Some of these guys obviously are unemployable. Oh. And these first suits are expensive. Okay. They are expensive. And one thing I do know about furries is that they're like, some of them are very wealthy. They have a lot of disposable income because they work for like Lockheed Martin and shit.

Like whenever they, one of them comes across my timeline, just saying the most nastiest, grossest shit. And I click on their profile. It's like they work at Raytheon or Boeing and shit. It's like, what the fuck? Because they're autistic men. I thought Trump got rid of those people. I thought we decided they're not allowed to be part of the military industrial complex in the private sector And they take all of their war bucks and they commission fur suits for like $10,000

Um thanks a lot I'm not sure what this clip is about play clip 13 All right good setup by the way Thank you there's there's an aspect of being a furry which is about being an outcast because when you identify an animal You identify with something that is non-human and being non-human is like in essence not fitting in. Yeah, they were talking about the keep furry weird again, just to go back to that. And basically, if you're a furry, you're an outcast,

and you identify with animals more than humans. And there's just something about furries in essence that's not human. I thought it was funny. How does PETA fell about furry hunting? I think they'd be fine with it, right? Maybe like appropriating, is it like animal face to them? Yeah. That's very offensive.

People get cancer for that shit in this day and age. You got to be careful with it. The guy who's talking, by the way, is pent-up pop that is their guest on episode 7th. No, sorry, 15 or so. He looks 15. He's a, yeah, he's a musician. He is supposedly of age. He has music if he would like to play the song.

You can cut it out whenever you like. Rope puppy. Okay. rope puppy give me treats like your nuts love me get the plug

you can put it in while I'm restrained here stuck to the bed guess I'm here for the night no complaints in my mind I won't lie

you know I'd want This kind of slaps And make me A place cute When you're worried And I skip that's good shit right that he is a musician he is yeah very popular among the furry community well if you look at their views like you said the podcast it's not like they're getting millions of

views but among their own group the sky is pretty big apparently yeah it seems to be working out well i mean you probably don't know the size of the um the number of people using the app i would imagine in order to have a dating app you have to have a pretty large set because people are you know living all over the world so it'd be hard to find another furry in your area if there's only a small percentage of people using it yeah well on the app you can by the way like you can set your location and search by i want to see just australian furries or just indian furries too which were the hottest furies which uh continent who i would imagine still the uh really the americans he answered the question there weren't many indians and turkish ones u s a

Well, guess what? I guess how pent-hop pop ended up a furry, by the way. He was groomed. No. That's not good. This is a teacher work. Because we just chill out in, like, the studio room. Just me.

He's talking about his professor in college. I remember one time that teacher was like, you strike me as someone who's going to end up being trans. What? Well, wait, hold on. Hold the judgment. Well? Yeah. Were you waiting to respond?

like envy i i i'm still figuring out what capacity to what capacity um but yeah like that teacher was cool oh yeah sounds cool yeah um well you can you be trans and a furry is that allowed that seems like too much seems like a lot to handle i'm so confused about you a lot of juggling going out of your life you're both of those things well he's also juggling in the video there he's very fidgety playing with a the entire time. Well, this teacher apparently tells him, you know what, you struck me as somebody who's going to be a transvestite eventually. And he really likes this teacher because this teacher, although he has no social media presence, he follows this guy specifically, pent-up-pup

on his social media on Snapchat. What's that good? And pent-up-pup decides one day to post a photo, a snap of his poop, which the teacher likes. That's clip five. Oh. People are probably weirded out by it but like I remember that people probably were yeah this teacher was like oh that he thought that it was so sick that I did that what he was like every like so much shit on social media is so fake and like so the teacher was like well you know everything on the internet is so fake but when you posted your poop that was like real keeping it real man well what subject is this professor teaching good question i was wondering that i didn't catch that i don't know this guy's accent is very heavy too i don't know if he's like chinese or something but clip six

he uh continues about the teacher and how much of a fan he was of the poop and like i remember my class like telling the telling the teacher and expecting the teacher to like be like what the fuck but he was like that's hard as fuck who is this guy i need to meet this guy i'm not i'm not duxing i'm not duxing i like how even harby there is like what the fuck yeah thankfully that's where they draw the line. That's actually not cool. By the way, Jody B,

thanks for posting your shit in our Discord just now. That's why I need to be looking at while we're running the show. Fucking asshole. Now, I want to ask you, Doug, on episode one,

were they already coming up with a lot of funny puns while they were doing the show? Not one that I noticed, no. All right. Well, I have a great example, and this is one that Banjo comes up with. He's very proud of himself.

Yeah. I think you need like an applause. We need like an, audience like reaction yeah is that good yeah a round of a pause oh I see what you did there that was good wow oh my guys pretty good stuff came with a victory laugh too I just came up with that guys yeah cool how long was the episode that you guys listened to how long was it um two hours Yeah, hour and 40, I think, was the most recent one. So mine was about two hours.

If you play my clip 12, my note here says that this podcast was two hours, but it would probably be an hour if he only said each word one time. It's really interesting. Like, I mean, like, this is like the same thing that, that happened with the Raptor masks and, like, Target ends up like that, where it's like, it allows kids in the fandom to really feel involved when they don't have the, like, the monetary expense. is available to actually get a full-frew and they can still feel included in some way. Yeah.

Fucking stuttering squirrel, motherfucker. I actually have the perfect ISO for what just happened on this show. What we're talking about? I can't follow any train of thought that's going on with these guys. And the fact that they can just talk about nothing for two hours straight is almost impressive. Well, they do have topics sometimes. They do talk about, for instance, um, how they ended up being fairies

to continue my grooming arc if you want to play clip nine the Chinese furry pent-up pop talks about how younger people grew up on the internet okay it's so it's like it's not that it's not like it doesn't take a genius to figure out like how fucked up it is to like

have access to internet at a younger age and that was to set up clip 10 very articulate too But also, I honestly think that if I didn't have unregulated access to the internet from a young age, I don't even know if I would be a fairy right now. Yeah, like, I'm grateful that I was allowed to, like... You're not helping your cause there. We gotta shut this thing down, everyone.

Let's get the internet shut down immediately. Let's go. I love how it went from literally saying, hey, you know, it's kind of fucked up that we just allow little children to be in the internet unsupervised. And the other guy goes, yeah, you know, I wouldn't even be a furry. if my parents didn't allow me to just watch fucking gay porn on the internet. Right, yes, that's why it's bad. Our furry's a cult.

I'll let you decide. Clip 12. When it becomes this thing of like, for people like you and me, this has been like the biggest thing for us all of our lives. Like if you just join it within a year and like when people are like,

oh, I'm going to lead the fandom. Like, I feel like that's not an option for me. So when people try to exclude you from certain things, that kind of has a little more weight to it because This is like your whole social life. Like all of my friends are furry. Everything I know is revolving around the fandom because I've just been in it so long.

So I think that's a little like imagine like just that on a normal level. Like it's extreme. But like somebody doesn't like something that you do. So they're like, oh, we're going to excommunicate you and cancel you and whatever, you know. I don't know exactly what I'm getting at, but you could literally put in Scientology in there. It would make perfect sense That crossed my mind Holy shit

I can only be friends With other furries All of my friends are fairies Okay I feel like I'm hogging Yeah Doug what else did you check out I just I got a couple A couple more clips here

But it's more on the technical aspect Of their podcast Than the content Number eight Is a good example of their levels Being they're as fucked up As their moral compasses This is gonna be a little divisive

People are gonna hate me for this Especially snakes on us I've never personally really liked that snake. No, you can't say that here. Dude, you cannot say that. Cut the cameras. Hold on, okay. All right, thank you guys.

Jesus. That's the Ron the waiter. Yeah, right. When you yell, it's always good to get closer to the microphone. Yeah. Yeah, it's good move. And then number 14, all I say is this is what it's like listening to WATP now. Like, I don't know if this is a convention or, yeah.

Just ignore the music Can you guys see the video? To all the audio listeners here It's showing a video of these stories back in 2006 Dude if you're listening to audio only you do this All you hear is the music but Fuck you, Doug Kai is the one who's

Bringing in still images That he's were showing up on the screen to get mad at him. What else did you pick up on, Doug? One more. Number six, that's just a clip for Chris. All right, ready to roll the credits? Yep.

All right, guys. Bye, until next time. Bye. Oh, sweet. All right, thank you. We'll be using that. Bye. So keeping that on the board.

All right, well, they're talking about these conventions that they go to, and the conventions have gotten more and more popular. Like I mentioned, that one. I think they're planning on having 16,000 at it, the Midwest one coming up. And one of the things that happens at these conventions is not just furries that go. There's also, like, YouTubers who go to document what's happening. And I think Harvey might be outing himself here. It just keeps escalating.

There's just more and more, like, big YouTubers coming to furry conventions. Yeah. I don't mind it. It's just, it's like trying to get a clip out of. I mean, it's just clip farming. It's like clip farming in a negative way. In their defense, like, that's some damn good content going to a furry convention as a non-furry. Like, people will watch that.

I remember, I remember before I was a furry, I was watching videos like that. Like, oh, my God, this guy, he was at a furry convention. Whoa, that's crazy. I like that he was clowning these assholes. It's just like, it actually looks fun, though. Wait, you guys get to ejaculate onto each other? All right, well, I'll do that, then. That's cool.

The diaper looks damn comfy. You're right, yeah. Here I'm using a toilet, like a sucker. All right, Guy. What else do you want to play? Okay, clip seven is a set-up clip. Pentop pup is talking about kinks and the power dynamics, and one of them asks him, what about hugging?

I like hugging boys. Do you think power dynamics come into play in that scenario? I feel like a hug is pretty mutual, actually. but like that's still like a neutral power dynamic in that what okay now I have a question yeah Doug have you ever hugged a man like your son just when you were proud of him or something yeah of course in your life okay clip eight it's like I mean no I'd say hugging someone is more comparable to giving head

because like giving head and receiving head aren't like it's not like inherent it's not like an inherent power dynamic that the person giving head is lower lower than the other person so I stand by it I've never hugged a guy that my mouth was full of goo afterwards so I don't think it's you're doing it wrong

maybe this is like the Pulp Fiction foot massage versus going down at a girl argument they have interesting arguments being made by the sky and I love how all the other furries are also confused I'll throw a clip 15

in which they talk about ancient Greek myths, I think. In pretty much every, like, ancient culture that we know about, anthropomorphic animals played some sort of role, whether it be in art or religion. Like, in ancient Greek, they had, like, minotors and centaurs and satyrs and fonts and stuff. Yeah. You know the myths about the minotars,

like wearing diapers and coming on pizzas and stuff? Yes. I love that, yeah. Aristotle spoke of this. So you're saying that's not true? Probably not. Yeah, I'm not a historian myself, so I just, someone says something like, I don't know, it's probably right. I have a few more clips which are visual.

I'll apologize right now for your audio listeners. However, this show is on Spotify as an audio-only show, so you're really getting the authentic experience here, too. This is why I said I think banjo might be on something. Play clip 16, where they start getting zany with visuals. Hey, have five. yeah yeah what's happening yeah oh oh oh oh oh oh okay okay um sorry um so they're basically looking at their monitors and trying to get to their paws to connect yeah they're making their 3D avatars do zany shit so if you're driving right now listening to the listening to them going oh oh oh that's what's

happening on screen and in your audio feed if you were subscribed to this podcast it's not like when they're having a conversation it's better right I mean what the fuck is to do if you're listening to this you're an idiot if you're paying attention

um clip 17 is very it's one of my favorites here gandro goes very zany a thing it's allowed me to like be more comfortable with who I am as well um

jump up and down what are you what are you doing what do you wait where to go I don't know oh

oh no stop no dude all this talk stop get up again oh my god oh my god

banjo's assag every all the co-hosts on the show they don't seem to like it yeah I'm surprised by that Yeah, right. It's actually consensual. Don't worry about it. A clip 18. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, Banjo's very horny on this episode. Me and Banjo Yeah, yeah, I guess like my tongue out I do that out of your time

But they're just like You know, it's like this doesn't do me on YouTube You guys just have a Zoom call and do this if you want Okay, but here's the thing though, Carl the Chinese guy feels left out He's just sitting there in his Cuck chair He doesn't even have a 3D avatar

He feels a little sad So they involve him Clip 19 You need to turn yourself You need to turn yourself Banjo There we go Oh Oh

Oh Why's where I go to town On that fucking thing Like there's a salt lake Over there So Banjo felt a little hyper on that episode i have a feeling i have to tell you man um that's the gayest thing i've ever heard in my entire life this is a really gay podcast and i was not expecting that when uh when this

was sent over i just thought we'd learn about furries and fernas and stuff yeah i'm telling you if you're if you were just listening to this on audio all you're getting is a bunch of like gay young men moaning into the mic essentially which i guess if you're into that fair enough yeah dug If you're into that sort of thing What it sounds like Is all of us listen to a different episode And not one of us learned a fucking thing About any of it

I know I really did not learn anything The only thing that made sense to me was this That's gross Okay that's gross Yes That was the one thing I agreed with When they were talking

That made sense Anything else you want to play Before we move on with our lives Gentlemen? No No I think I'm done We're good All right

In that case, you know, we are celebrating Jock Tover. You got a stinger for me? We're behind on Jocktober. We're behind on Jock Dover. And my buddy E. Rock sent this to me. We didn't get a chance to get to it when Eric was on the show because we had so much going on. But there's this guy named Jubel. And Jubel is a morning show jock.

He's also a rapper. He's also a stand-up comic. He wears a lot of hats. He thinks he's very talented. He's very proud of himself. And he's on in a lot of markets. I don't know how impressive that is anymore. I feel like a lot of these stations are just like, yeah, we have a morning show in Seattle, put it wherever you want.

But this is the current market list for the Jubal Show. And you can see he's in Austin and Denver and Lexington, Louisville, Portland, Sacramento. So this is a pretty big market here, Seattle, as I mentioned. Is that comic sense? Was it just a stream? Yeah, I think you might be right. It's pretty zany. Colorado Spring, so our buddy Rocco can listen to it.

And one of the things that this guy does, and you're going to love this, he does prank phone calls. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's pretty good stuff. And he doesn't do the prank phone call. His character Trevor does the prank phone call. Hello? Hi, it's Trevor, and I'm pretty sure I left my tuffy. Who?

I'm sorry, who is this? This is Trevor, a spatula and some tuppy. Do you have the right number? Who are you trying to reach? Oh, sorry, is this Quinn? Yes. Hi, Quinn. My name is Trevor, and I'm calling from blank heating in air.

And we just worked on your air conditioning system last week. Oh, uh-huh. Yeah, and so I'm calling with a bit of an issue that I need to. Like, let you know and see if maybe, um, you know, you can help me. This is going great. I mean, what the, who would entertain this? Obviously, it's a fake call. Who would entertain a guy doing a voice at the bike?

Okay, can you just talk normal? What's going on? What do you need? What are you looking for? I won't play all of this, but. What's your punchline? I'll say it and then we can hang up, okay? Yes.

How much time do you need to fill here? Trevor. Okay. Oh, so my favorite toppy and my spatula. have you seen are they there um i don't i'm sorry i don't know what that is yeah so the joke is he's calling his tupperware his tuppy very confusing for this woman because she doesn't know what a tupy is because why would you it's not a thing oh um so it was a long job when we were working on your air conditioning system and so i had lunch you know yeah and i'm pretty sure i left my tuppy and my spatula

um there you're what and spatula um my toppy it was my favorite toppy set are you a puppy no a toppy tupperware i'm sorry that's all uh so we're a minute and a half in and finally he's like oh the joke is that it's tupperware let me scrub a little bit so we can get to the uh the punch side of this whole thing i can't call what am i supposed to do right now i can't really like um oh just telling me like so he decides that he's going to go back and get it himself so he's going to squeeze himself into her home she's not there right now all right that i can't go into the uh air conditioning system without you home right right um but like i already started before and so like i did

what like you're at my house right now well yeah and um um okay so i'm stuck are you kidding me where how did you how did you how did you even get there. I can't leave right now. I can't call. What am I supposed to do right now? I can't really like oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, God, what is happening?

Oh. What is it? Like breakfast club climbing through the vents? Like, fucking die hard. Yes. You're not buying it? You don't think this is a realistic call that someone would get and believe? I don't think that I am tracking. No.

Yeah. What is happening? What the f*** was that sound? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What the f***? Um, um, um, Quinn? What is wrong? What did you do? Um, oh, my. What the f*** is going on? Okay, so, um, Quinn, uh, I have some good news and bad news for you.

Oh, what the f*** is going on? Okay, so, um, bad news. Your whole ceiling just caved in. Oh, my God. Worst news, you're terrible in acting. Yes, not a good job for you. Both of them. So bad.

Oh, my God. The good news is, though, I don't think my Tupperware and Spatula were there because I don't see them anywhere? Look, I'm leaving work right now. I'm going to call the cops. I'm calling my husband. We're going to meet you there. Just stay where you are.

I will be there soon. Okay, Quinn, don't do that yet because this is actually Juble from the Jubal Show doing a phone break on you, and your husband set you up. Who? What? It's a joke. This is Jubal from the Jubal Show.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm still calling the cops. This is still going on. We're watching that. Oh. This is still going on in 2025. Not only that, he's posting that. We're watching the video.

We posted that Instagram. Problemless to enjoy. Where do you want the roses sent? Exactly. And then this, I needed to show you that. So you understood the character that is Trevor. Because Jubal interviews. Trevor, so that we can learn more about him.

Hey, Trevor, thanks for coming in today. How's everything going? I'm right here. No, sorry. I didn't know there was going to be cameras. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine, huh? I just have never been in front of people before, so.

What people? Yeah, like, well, there's no. So it's the same. guy sitting on the same couch but one of them sounds like there's no soundproofing around them it sounds like there is it's kind of odd right well the mic is on the camera oh maybe they didn't bother to have an extra like actual mic you're right mic above them or anything people behind the cameras but you know what i mean like no yeah it's just cameras um yeah i'm great how are you i'm good

Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm kind of a nervous guy a lot. So, you know, but like nothing to worry about. Nervous guy? Yeah, I get pretty nervous a lot. Yeah. So he wrote this and then pitched it to somebody, I'm sure.

And he said, okay, I'm going to sit on this side of the couch. And then I'm going to put on a stupid shirt and a wig. And then I'm going to do a shitty Charlie Hunnam, Ed Gein impression on the other side of the couch. And then I'm going to talk to each other. Or myself. And it's crazy because we're a minute in or 50 seconds in on this. And there hasn't been a joke. It just is like this awkward conversation.

He thinks that the character drives it. He doesn't need to have material because his character is so compelling. We just love it. I can't remember what this guy's stand up. 12 minutes of this. He just goes out for 12 minutes. And sit there and listen right now, Kaya. You'll never come back to WTP again.

Can you imagine like sitting there recording this, by the way? he's like talking to a blank couch doing this bit for 12 fucking minutes rehearsing lines and just like not getting bored of it himself. Yeah, there has to be some type of script or something in order to understand the pausing and whatnot.

Right. Do you not have that instinct where like, you know at some point when you're typing a comment on Reddit or something if you're arguing with somebody and at some point you're like five sentences in and you realize that, not worth it. Yeah, what am I doing? Backspace.

Yeah, what am I doing? Forget about it. This guy, he didn't have that. Twelve minutes, he records. But what about them? If you want to look at the cameras, he can. I'm, you know. Okay, so I can look at you?

Yeah. Wherever. Okay. So how's your day been? Oh. Holy shit. It's not just recording for 12 minutes. It's recording for 12 minutes twice.

Right. And it's supposed to be an interview. It's called. the phone prank character interview, and he goes, how's your day been? That's not an interview. It's small talk. Yeah, if that is in the script, he sucks.

He sucks. Pretty good. I got fired. Got fired? Sorry. A little quick on the editor, buddy. Yeah. What'd you do?

Well, it was a job where I was doing customer service, but I don't really know how to do. customer service, but then also, like, um, I deleted somebody's account on accident because, like, um, they didn't show me the right keys to hit on the keyboard. Well, maybe they did, but also, um, I didn't remember what they were. Good stuff. This guy fucking sucks, Carl. He fucking sucks so bad. And you should see his music that he does. He really thinks he's awesome. He's got this elaborate music video. videos and shit.

And it goes by Jubal Frush when he's doing his music. Let my people go. Let's change my name to Moses. Time for me to fuck up this game. I'm focused. Split the tide with the lion's prize. and leaves motherfuckers drowning in the oceans

because this shit's prophetic. Meditate every day. Call it spiritual calisthenics. I'm not a good judge of this type of music. I mean, you can tell me that that's Kanye. I bet, sure. I don't know. Is Enoch mad at us?

Yes. Iraq is mad at us. I don't know what we did do him. I'm an excellent judge of music, and I would say that this guy's music is better than this guy's radio career. It seems more professional. Right.

I'll give him that. He's not a high bar, but yeah. So, yeah, he's on a lot of stations, and we covered him before on, who are these podcasts a couple of years ago, during Jack Tover, but I think that E. Rock just wanted to torture us a little bit more. He did it.

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Are you guys familiar with Tiger Belly? Very popular show on YouTube? No. It stars Bobby Lee and Kalila. They were dating for a long time. Then they broke up, but they're still doing Tiger Belly. Bobby Lee is a popular comedian and podcaster, and they just had Burt Kreischer on their show. Oh, no.

Yeah. You're familiar with Burke Chrysher, right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. So Bobby Lee is talking about... The only way this day could get worse is if you would have said they had Hannah Gatsby on as a guest. Yeah.

Some cock and ball torture. I miss the furries. It's funny you bring up cock and ball torture because what Bobby Lee is talking about is how his penis is small and he can't satisfy by women. So he's wondering if he should shove his balls in with his penis in order to fill in more of the vagina and please the woman. This is

the conversation that we're having to start things off. And Bert brings up a pretty good point. Do you realize that's not anatomically possible? You would have to bend your dick and then push up. What do you mean? To jam your balls. Yeah, I use my hands. And just like pack it. Like, pack it in there.

Yeah. Would you take your balls from behind? Or would you grab like this and shove in? What do you mean? I don't understand. Would you reach from behind and push in? Or would you just reach like this? Well, it's in, from the bottom. So I'm missionary and I would just, you know what I mean?

With my hand, I would reach around like I'm grabbing around. Guys, do you feel like podcast is over? Do you feel like why are we doing this? Yeah, you're right. You guys are leading me down a path of despair. It was fun while it last is. But let's just let Rogan do it. And then let's all just go back to doing stand-up.

I don't know why we have podcast. Now, the point that Bert is making here is not out of the blue. So he left, him and Tom stopped doing two bears one came over the summer while they were pursuing their other projects that they were working on. And they had Stavros and Chris Staphano fill in for them. And every single person in the comment section agreed that it was way better with Stavi and Chris than it is with Tom and Bert. and they were ragged on them

and then Tom and Burke come back and that was the first thing Bert says just like I hate doing this man why are we even doing this Bert is burned down on podcasting he's broadcasting way too much he has nothing else to talk about

this is 13 minutes into an episode they're already talking about shoving balls in with your dick while you're fucking a woman and finally Bert just like what should we still be doing this anymore who is this for? Yeah when Bert Kreischer is questioning it

it's over yeah and I'll give it to me actually brings up a pretty good point right here. No one prompted you with a whole shove the balls thing. That was all you. No, no, no, no. This is the problem of podcasting as we've talked about everything.

I know that's the problem. So now we're forced to think of things we've never said and where we end up is shoving balls in a pussy. See, this is the problem with guys like this is that they show up completely unprepared. Like, yeah, we'll just have a conversation with my funny buddies and it'll go great. And for a few years, it's fine. and now we're in year seven or whatever it is of Bert trying to be a podcaster

and he's just like what are we doing guys can I ask why he's like the only red one is he hypertensive he's not well I would say that Bert is not a healthy guy doesn't live a healthy lifestyle and apparently none of them are familiar with Baldo

yes I have my uh nicricade of Baldo right here from pony power too just shove your balls in there and penetrate any hole you want that's the tagline oh yeah but from behind or from like the front call right all right so uh yeah this is bert is not joking about this i swear to god i've i've been toying the idea of getting rid of all my podcasts yeah just because it's like it's like it's like i'm not a fucking broadcaster yeah me either like what are we fucking doing yeah

yes and he's not joking about this he talked to tom about it He doesn't like podcasting. Do you imagine a podcast you enjoy listening to? Pick anyone. And the host comes on and goes, I fucking hate that I have to do this. You'd back out. Well, then I'll stop listening.

It's fine. It's a crazy way to be when you're doing something that like so many people would love to be able to do for a living. So many people do it with no listeners that just keep doing it like I did for years. Yeah. It's like, people do it for fun. And then for a guy to just be like, this fucking sucks.

I hate this shit. Then they have to read their ad read. that gives them $30,000. No one feels bad for you, man. Yeah. They phoned in so much, so they're talking about shoving balls into a vagina, and then they actually have to look it up to see

if this is something that you can do. It is physically impossible for a person to insert their testicles into a vagina. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I've never seen it on porn. Yeah, me either. Eoretically doesn't work.

Unless your balls were, like, filled with blood in the same way a boner is, and it's, like, hard enough to enter. It's getting too dirty. But it's smushy. There's not a chance. If you can shove a fist up there, you can certainly shove balls up there. I think it's possible.

I've never gone to the balls penetration category. I'm sure it's there, right? Just tell your stupid fucking machine story, change it again, and fucking get out of here. Well, it's funny. You say that, Doug, because they realize how fucking repetitive they are on all these shows. And I should just point out, so they start looking up, and I hate when podcasters do this, They just start asking chat GPT about shit and reading that When Bert's just like what are we doing we shouldn't be podcasting anymore

That would have an interesting conversation to have and explore that a little bit But they're right to know what we're talking about balls in a pussy Let's keep going there But yeah this is to your point about repeating the same shit over and over again You've talked so much on podcast Yeah I keep repeating the same things over and over again I think we should you and I Yeah

Try to come up with stuff that we've never talked about Okay what if we what if we did this guys not rehash the same old bullshit over and over again and then they go to break and then they come back and they try to figure out how they could even possibly do that i think we should you and i yeah try to come up with stuff that we've never talked about okay no don't put on no no no no i write down ideas for stand-up i don't never say them in podcasts yeah because stand-up is stand-up i think i mean stand-ups where all my original ideas go and then podcasting is where all this shit i go

I'd never say this on stage goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Gilbert, can you come up with somebody? Here, here, here, okay. Yeah, he'll chat CBT yet, maybe. So Bobby's solution for this is to go to the producer, Gilbert. I'm like, hey, man, can you ask a robot what we should talk about? That's literally what just happened.

What's the point of any of this? These guys want to be replaced by AI. They're asking for it. Yeah, chat chabit would be funnier. Yeah, it'd be more interesting, probably. than Bert, yeah. Well, so Bert goes to his phone and looks for conversation starters

and I was surprised because I saw this clip on two bears, one cave where Bert brought up this idea to Tom and they talked about it very seriously for quite a long time. Okay, like I have ideas where I go this wouldn't work on stage but it's a good talking point.

Like the other day, I'll tell you, okay, you're a perfect idea. Okay, good. You ready for this? Yeah. I did this on two bears, so now I said it twice. But it's a good idea. Tommy and I are adopting a only-fans girl for two bears.

We're going to have two bears-only-fans girl. Okay. And then we're going to help run her only-fans, create her only-fans, generate content for her only-fans, produce her only-fans, and help blow her up so she can make a ton of money. Kind of like a pimp. Yeah. We're a pornographer. Yeah.

What is novel about this? This is not a new idea what you're talking. about here, Vert. I want to manage a cam girl. Okay, that's Andrew Tate. The original prompt to all of this was, we need to start talking about new ideas that we haven't discussed. Yep.

And his solution is to re-talk about something that has existed since the beginning of time. Right, yes. And something that he discussed at length with Tom Seguer on his other podcast. I don't want to be repetitive. I always said this thing

one time, so we could explore this thing. So, yeah, his idea... I keep mentioning how original he is, by the way, on a stand-up. I know. I'm only boring here. I only repeat myself on podcasts. My stand-up is so clever and original. The machine.

Have you guys heard about it? His stand-up sucks. I unfortunately saw him one time because he had a lot of good comics that he brought with him. And this shirt just comes off immediately. It's just all gimmicks. Yeah, I think Kai and I did an episode of Spit roast a long time ago about Bert Kreiser. And I specifically remember bringing three different versions of the machine story. The prequel, the sequel, yeah, all the different stories.

Holy shit, that movie he made, too. Oh, yeah. He got a lot out of that, a lot out of that stupid story. So this is what Bert thinks, the idea that he's coming up with. We all agreed it's just like, yeah, yeah, getting girls to whore themselves out. This is not, nothing, though. You're not reinventing the wheel at all. But he's decided that this is a very different idea.

And so they start talking around the room about how they would pull it off. Like a kill Tony of only fans. Like someone who's good and talented, but only has a minute. And you, at bad friends, should do the same thing. Kind of like you're fostering. Yeah. Is it a boy or a girl? We haven't made a decision yet.

It's got to be a guy. It's got to be a guy. It could be a guy. We could be a guy. Why? I like that. So Bert told Fantasy is, let's get a smoking-out 22-year-old chick to fucking take her panties off for us

and we'll film it and promote her. And Bobby Lee goes, you should get a dude to do that. He's like, why would we? This idea suddenly sucks. I think you're missing the point. I'm wanting somebody to send me their picks. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, yeah.

First is like, no, no, no, no, I'm married, and I'm bored of my wife, and I want a young hot check to take her clothes off with part of this you're not understanding, Bobby Lee. I like the bargain. Let's just have a transgender. Yeah, there you go. A non-binary, only fans. Well, the reason why I bring this up is because I remember when Bert and Tom tried to fuck a porn star, Adriana Chekick.

And I went and did a little research on this because Bert has these ideas for a reason. And I could see right through it. That like Adriana Chechik is going to be on there. Yeah, you know she's reached out, right? What? She's reached out. To us? Mm-hmm.

For what? Nadav. Did you see you appeared on YMH podcast? Doomers! Yes! Between him and Bert, Tom Segura and Burt Chrysler, I'm just wondering if they want to get a DP going

or if they want to, you know, hit me up for any double action. If both of those two men want to put their podcast where their dick is, then find me and they know where I am. Because I've tried to, uh... try to reach out to Burt a few times and nothing ever followed through.

Hey, bitch. Step the fuck up. We're supposed to be D.P. in this chick, man. Dude, we do it for the podcast. This is back when two bears had the gaggle of producers that lose their minds over every fucking thing that happens for some reason.

For a live show? For a live show? We'll sell a lot of tickets. How about this? How about this? You ready for Okay, okay. What I'm going to call our wives? Here's our pitch. Here's our pitch. Go ahead. We put strap-ons on and have sex with her with strap-ons on, so we don't really have sex with her.

See, Leah, I would sign off on it. Okay. Um, no. Okay. Soft pitch. Just want to hear you out. You're on the podcast. Okay.

Tom and I have an offer to DP, double tent penetrate, a porn star. Now, we're not, hold on. We're not going to do with our real dicks, but we'd like to do it with strap-ons, wearing underwear, strap-ons wearing underwear have sexual with a born star for a live show would you let us do that no wait hold on hear me out there's a lot of money

again I don't give a shit no you don't think this is a legit what's happening live on the show guy I don't think this will set up maybe this is set up out of time my point is Bert's a horny guy it's my point okay would you wear a strap on no

can we be on the in the room while people pretend to be us. I think that's gross. Okay. And stupid. I love you. That's not a no. Love you too.

Gosh, she's such a bummer, man. Oh, shit. All right, so that didn't work. He can't fuck a porn star, even with a strap-on on. But he can find some young talent who wants to finger their buttholes

in front of a webcam, and he could potentially make some money promoting that. And he doesn't even see what the problem could possibly be. It's a little creepy, no? No. Yeah. No, here's, okay, hang on.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't have an only fans. Like, for real, if I had boobs, I'd have an only fan. Yeah. There's no reason not to have an only fans. That's why I don't have one. Yeah. Same. But you have feet, you have feet.

That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're crazy that you can make $10,000 a month. They look like Gargaw's feet. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Have you ever talked about having an only fan? No. So, Bert's whole thing is like, I don't know why every chick has to take their clothes off on OnlyFans. You get $10,000 a month. Yeah, look how well worked out for Keanu. It's always great having your nudes floating around the internet for the rest of your life. What bad could happen from that? He's gross.

You know, in real life, when you first meet somebody and you're talking to him, trying to find out what you have in common with them, and they, you know, so what do you enjoy doing? I like stand-up comedy. Well, who do you like? Bert Kreisher? I'll see you later. Yeah. So you don't like stand-up.

comedy. It's what you're saying. I actually do. So, good talk. Now, you just heard Bert say, everyone should have an only fan. Because it's just free money. You're just leaving it on the table. And so he's going to pitch Bobby that the two of them should start an

only fan. God, maybe I just have lower standards. You would have one. No. You get naked free. Like, what do I show? Me and you were naked, your dick. What are you talking about? You know, I would. Your butthole. I would talk to someone I would do it with you.

Yeah. Okay, let's create an only fan, you and I. I would do it in a heartbeat. I'll keep, but... I don't understand what the fucking... I understand that. He really doesn't, I don't think. I think he really is that dumb.

I believe that. These are, like, high school conversations. When you're like, if I was a chick, I'd suck every dick. I'd be such a whore. I'd be sleeping around all the time. I'd just get the biggest boobs possible, and I would just film myself 24-7 playing with them. It's like, okay, man.

I'd be a millionaire. Yep. You sure would. So they continue to explore this idea that for some reason, Bert and Bobby are going to have an audience that wants to see their assholes. You can go like full-blown asshole. Like first day, you got to go slowly eat. Yeah, we're not going full-blown asshole. Bro.

Yeah. I don't. I mean, like, I'm, I only got full-blown. I can't understand. Why you wouldn't? Like, no, I can't understand. Like, if I just posted, if someone's like, send me a picture of asshole, I sent them a picture of my asshole. How would they know it?

It's your asshole. And who cares if it is or isn't? Yeah, no, what's going to like? It's not like someone's going to go, look at this asshole. I do all the time when I see bird crack. Look at this asshole. So, now I don't have an only fans account, even though I should, because it would be a write-off, and I should probably get out on that. Oh, okay.

But I would imagine, from things that have leaked that I've seen, that it's not just a close-up of an asshole. You know, you want to see the pretty lady's face that's attached to it. So I don't think that Bert's understanding how this works. It's just going to be a whole page of just his asshole. I think he thinks everybody would have as good of luck on OnlyFans as he did with podcasting, where he just creates the account and now he's got $10,000 a month coming in. And that's what he said. Yeah, you're spot on with that.

And so he's not understanding that the vast majority of women who get on Only fans make no money and humiliate themselves. Because I think the average I think the average income For an only fan's creator is like 20 bucks You actually make a less than a burger flipper Right And Jody B, I'm gonna murder you I'm never gonna look at the Discord

Ever again He's showing us his only fans page But yeah So Burt cannot figure out why Bobby Wouldn't want to show his asshole to the world Yeah I know the first photo we do What assholes?

No no no Yours is hairless I've seen your assholes I know. I understand that. For free. But the public hasn't. So Bobby's pretty wild.

So Burr's like, I've seen your asshole. Come on, man. Let's go take photos right now. Let's go to the bathroom. Let's figure this out. And I was like, no, I don't need everyone in the world to have seen my asshole, Bert. And I just have one more clip on here because Bert really is a dumb guy. Like, I can't understand that any woman's broke when you could just do Onlyfans.

I feel like it's maybe over-saturated. It's hard to be like the 1% earner. Burr's just like Why are there any homeless women? They can just be whores Why are these women broke? They should just be sucking off dudes wherever they go. Yeah.

Just be a sex slave. What's the hold-up? Yeah. Why do you have dignity? He is, like you said, it's like a teenager. It's like a teenage boy being like, oh my gosh, if I was a girl, I'd be so horny all the time, and I would just fuck, and I wouldn't care.

All these uptight braweds who don't want to show me their boobs. What's their problem? all right so yeah i just wanted to take a look at tiger bell because i saw that bert was talking about quitting podcasting again i want to encourage him to quit podcasting please you're not good at it or comedy too but the uh the numbers are going down people do not care about two bears one cave the comments are negative and uh bert's putting zero effort into it and getting the results that he should get kaya you brought something else with you today yeah Doug would you like to talk about dolls?

I would. Yeah, I've got a couple clips as well. Oh. Okay. Well, Carl, so since I didn't know if the furries would be enough or fun enough, we also brought a second show for you today. So double penetration. Let's double penetrate Carl here. Harhar. So,

I found out that there's websites that sell sex dolls. I don't know if you guys have heard about this phenomenon. But apparently, some of them sell sex dolls that are shorter than is legal in some states if you want to put up um this should be fine on your stream um my image sdp zero and if you want to zoom in you use my face to cover up okay thank you tastefully censored yes

is what i call it yes oh so you can you can buy like children's sex dolls well scroll up and read the notice oh boy uh at the top there please though the child like dowls are only illegal in Tennessee, Kentucky, Hawaii, South Dakota, Arizona, Utah, because the other states haven't gotten to it yet. Only dowels over 139 centimeters are safe to order to these states

without consulting us first on what we can and cannot send to these three states. These three states, there's a lot more than three. Email us for inquiries if you are uncertain. The 65 centimeter Chloe and 80 centimeter Shirari are the exception to this rule

as they are scaled down adult toys. Oh, so they actually aren't meaning their children. A couple of these are actually like maybe midgets, but the rest of them are actually fucking sex out that are children? What the other?

Again, now, I'm sorry for bringing screenshots, but for our audio listeners, there's a little graphic there on this page also with little children's dolls and two American flags. And it says, quote, it's all for nothing if you don't have freedom. And one of the dolls says,

chill out, Karen. I'm just a piece of rubber. I'm not real. and the other child doll says No human was hurt or harmed making me I'm not real American based American trusted So okay here's here's where I would be fine with this company

If they send the authorities in immediately As the doll is being delivered And just check the hard drives Just go through every fucking hard drive in the house And all these assholes to prison That is great It's a really good operation then Well if you open the box

And like a law enforcement officer jumps out I'm like a stripper out of a cake Freeze That'd be a funny skits You just got your dick in your hand Like ah fuck I'm so ready for this So here's another one of the examples

Is STP 1 the image And 130 centimeters It's like roughly I think 4.3 feet Something like that's like they're very short They're meant to be children Now here's a good news car It says the word toddler in the description

And they're expensive They're over a thousand dollars for this fucking thing. And now here's the good news, Carl. They have a podcast. Oh. Now I'm listening. So where we were going with this.

Yep. So anyway, we set you up a promo code if you want to. WATP for 20% off your first toddler down. First toddler fucked out. Jesus Christ. Okay. Speaking of Toddler, well, before we get to the podcast, I guess, Chris, Carl, have you guys ever stopped to think, man, I really

want to fuck a Pokemon. Put my image, STP 12. I've had my times when things get desperate. Would you say number 12? Yeah. SDP 12.

This is a real silicone 100 centimeter Vaporion doll from Pokemon, which Nintendo somehow, I don't know how they're not getting suits, but it's $1,800

that you can order this for. And you can customize it, like the eye color, the vaginal depth, the color of the pussy lips, the boops size, and everything. And you can get this thing in. Can I fit my balls in there? Who needs an vaginal depth longer than four inches? I don't even understand

what the... I get it. At that point, you're just doing it to save money on the rubber. Just howl the whole thing out for me. And here's one of the sexier adults. Image and I. for audio listeners is a alienoids beast with a gigantic lip face it kind of looks like the thing from stranger things yeah yeah i'm getting that sense too it doesn't make me want to fuck it makes me

well that's a you thing i guess okay yeah wow okay so you censored that with carl's face if it actually came like that that might be a little different story that would be a monster for sure um i'm guessing so this is not a human but i'm guessing the vagina and asshole look very human like on here even though we're censored thank you for censoring that of course okay the one part apparently their tagline is got to fuck them all all right dog do you have clips or yeah i do and i went back uh pretty early when they started the podcast and they don't really even talk about doll fucking much. It's like a group of people that fuck dolls that decide to record conversations about everything other than fucking dolls. It is, this show is, so it's called the doll channel.

You can find them on YouTube, which if I say the fucking R slur on YouTube, by the way, I get demonetized, but these guys can talk about fucking child dolls on YouTube somehow and stream. It's completely fine. It's called the doll channel. It's not very popular, but it's basically these four five boomer guys like creepos socializing so they just go on there and you think okay they're gonna talk about dolls right but no they talk about like how was thanksgiving dinner and they just go on and on about it to make it even worse so my clip three carl is they they were talking about fucking dolls and some of the potential bacteria you can get and how you can clean them unfortunately like he's like kaya said it's five people uh just shooting the shit one of them's podcasting while he's

he's walking in and out of stores into his car. So number, yeah, number three. Like, this thing that says, like, oh, if you get exposed to one single bacteria, one single bacteria, right? Darn it. Stupid stereo came back on. Maybe no podcast. today maybe you're busy you got things going on

it's okay we can wait yeah catch the next one we'll be on again next week it's almost like somebody's showing up to record a podcast from a softball game or something isn't it yeah it's a little frustrating like that how don't you bring that up going back in the way back machine today anyway yeah so it's basically this guy

Ricky in the top left that's him the doll channel his name is Ricky okay it's this guy who with his full name and address and everything he uses his real own phone number on his website he sells these dolls many of them on his own website uh basically just has a streamyard link that he sends to his i guess discord group of friends all of whom own uh dolls i'll give you a clip that summarizes the show which is clip seven in case you guys i'm sure all of us here gentlemen we've lusted after lola bunny at some point yes it's like this is the face which

does look a lot like Lola Bunny, which is good. You can see the body looks really human. The tits are human, too, by the way. Like, they look really human. You can see Camel Toe there, like this sort of tan line effect where the inside, like, near the vagina, going out like six inches to ten inches from the vagina is like a human, natural color but then once it gets further than that it turns into like Lola Bunny's

skin color which is like an orangey kind of color the people listening the tan lines that they were just showing is like a radius around the pussy yeah that's how tan lines work do they do they know why tan lines occur it's because of that

those panties right there it was like it was just a fuck up in the demolding process from taking the big chunk of rubber out they're trying to make that like a feature Isn't this great, guys? Which is like an orangey kind of color or flesh orange.

And then you could see the feet here. And now I see they don't like the feet. But I don't get it. Like, what's wrong with the feet? She's a rabbit. Most people don't want to fuck a rabbit, I guess. That's the answer to that. That's fucking crazy.

Speak for yourself So This is a great discovery, guys Holy shit People are weirdos And they're showing their faces Some of them They're showing

That's what shocked me Like Ricky is the most shameless one Because most of them Will hide their faces One of them They're the second guy, Benji

In this episode he's high as a kite He was wasted He's absolutely wasted And he's in his relative's basement I think he's in his uncle's basement or something recording from there. And all they do is sit around and basically review dolls. So if you want to play my clip four, here's more of Ricky showing off one of his clown dolls. But the makeup comes like this out of the factory, and it's basically semi-permanent makeup.

So as long as you don't try to take it off with baby oil, it'll be on there for the life of the doll. And as you could see, the makeup is really, really enticing. It's awesome. It has these, like, little eyelashes, makeup, clown makeup, these cute little eyebrows, the blue nose, and the sort of like dark blue lips, if they're not black. And then she's got these old blue heart tattoos on her shoulder. So this is an ancient green lipstick. Extremely cute doll, the Spora.

And she can come in a blue version or a pink version. For audio listeners, he has a great. Google Drive that he has set up with tastefully censored images of these dolls that he has posed. He poses these personally, and apparently his wife does the makeup on them. Oh, no. He's married to a woman? Yeah, yes. Allegedly.

I got something different from the episode I listened to. It sounds like he's a distributor that he's bringing the dolls in and then reselling them to people in this country. Let me show you how this doll works. Yes, I'm confused Basically, it could be true I think he imports Chinese dolls And then his wife puts the makeup on them And Ricky sells them on his website

My clip number five is him talking about One of the customers that he had That was complaining about how long it took for them to get their doll You know, that is a really long time To make somebody wait He beat the record like nine or ten months I'm surprised he didn't ask for a refund Actually, I think he ended up

He didn't get a refund But what he ended up doing He was like, Ricky, I'm tired of waiting Can you just send me a doll that you have in stock And then just we'll figure out the difference I don't care what it is I want to fuck something I'm tired of waiting

Something Jesus Christ All right, I got a black one I never mind I'll wait Just make sure it's four feet tall Right Okay so speaking of customer feedback Ricky reads a review of, I believe, a different doll website owner.

He talks about the material that they're made out of. That's my clip five, if you want to play it real quick. He's reading a Reddit comments here. After the events of this last year transpiring to see the third partner of Doll Forever turning his back on the company, Mizawali has been forced to take on production with the help of his partner. Innes. While Innes is more focused on the customer service and sales side, Mizawali is tasked with designs for new dolls and the mechanics of doll building. The new STPE material used is more dry, and the love holes tend to close up easily.

That's hot. Yeah, very realistic. He should read audiobooks. That's what happens to trans women, too, isn't it? They close up easily. You really got to... Yeah, right.

That is the problem. In Clipzig continues the review. Oh, good. For now, I still urge all Itokabeeching, Piper, Doll Forever, TPEE doll owners to oil their dolls, especially for newly produced TPE dolls from Doll Forever. I highly

urge you to oil your dolls as soon as you get them, especially the love holes. Oh, I just don't the back. Yeah. I'm just giving it a back rub. We haven't gone all the way yet. I want to get to know her first.

it's actually all really confusing if you get one with makeup you can't get oil right on the makeup but you got to oil the love holes otherwise they just become sealed and then you're just stuck with a really heavy chunk of rubber what am i what am i going to do with a 110 pound chunk of rubber that i can't fuck because the love holes dried shut you put it on display in your living room for when guests come over um dick mason Dick Benson has a sex style in his basement in the, where the studio is for his podcast, and it is off-putting. Oh, bad. I would imagine.

It's not a kid. It's not a kid. It's an adult-sized sex style, but it's just like, oh, fuck. Nightmares are made out of that shit. Okay. I'll let, Doug, did you have any more clips? Yeah, I got a couple here. So if you were to get a group, what is there, four, five on the call that we're watching here, five of these rubber fuckers were.

sitting around talking. My clip number two is exactly how you would expect the conversation to be with the disgusting motherfuckers. Ricky, what do you do for ball sweat? For ball sweat? Corn Star-based baby powder. I personally don't do that, but it's something that you can do. So being in Texas, I guess you don't get swamp ass and ball sweat.

We do get swamp ass and ball sweat. and stuff, but I just don't deal with it. I've never talked to a man about his bald sweat ever in my life. I can't imagine a scenario where that would come up. Okay, so that conversation must have triggered something in him. So this is back to the furry, I think it was the furry, I don't know, somewhere we were talking about shitty jokes. I think we all know somebody that tries making a joke like this, number one. After being on the road this long,

Do you have the Zackles? The Sackles? Yeah. Do you have the Zackles right now? What is that? That's when your ass and your breath smell exactly the same. You made me think of that, Benji, when you, when you mention the swamp ass. That joke sucks.

And he forced, he really just like, exactly's what exactly it's just like just fucking spell your stupid joke idiots yes move on yeah but you're when you tell the punchline of a joke that like that you're supposed to use the same word right he started with zachley's and then changed it to exactly exactly not i mean that it also didn't work because it was stupid but it just pisses me off he's also really obsessed with this guy's swamp ass for some reason no but because this is what they do though this is their socialization hour is oh shit rickie his life. I'm going to join the stream yard link

and talk. Hey, Ricky, how is your, what do you do about swamp ass? Could you imagine okay, this is a TV show idea. I know they have like 90 day fiance and you get like these awkward guys who like get a hot girl around them. Imagine these doll fuckers are presented with an actual

human person and you have to watch them try to talk to them. Like there's a chick and you're like, all right, see if you can close the deal with that girl right there. She's not even hot. She's a five. And these guys would have no idea what to sell. Oh, you ever get swamp ass?

I got sweaty balls. Did your pussy get sweaty? Are your love holes closing up? I brought oil for your love holes. I'll show you their conversational skills. So in the episode that I listen to, the guy at the very bottom there, Frizz, I believe, is a, probably a man in a 60s. He sounds very old. And he likes talking about fucking radios.

And I put a time code on the screen. This is my clip. It's called Holy Yap. I put a time code on the screen. It starts at eight minutes and something, something seconds, and it ends at 16 minutes. I set this up in between. It's kind of a long clip, but I just wanted to give you guys an idea of how long this guy goes on for without any interruption. But it had to do a, I had to put a GMS, a GR, it was a GM.

GMRS radio in this guy's Jeep I helped him with today. He goes on those trails a lot. I don't get to do it much anymore, but, and they communicate it. You know what a GMRS radio is, Ricky? No. But these radios can get out because they use repeaters, repeater system. How bad does the guy who wishes you just would have said, yeah, I don't know if that is. That's like a tower.

You know what a repeater is? Oh, no. No. I try to talk about the dolls, too. I said, you know. you know did you ever get into dolls and he looked at me like i was from planet zion or something so he's talking about his friends here that by the if you missed it that was uh eight whole minutes if i'm talking about fucking radio waves and repeaters whatever the fuck that is and let me tell you a little

bit about repeaters so i don't know everything there is to know about it actually we're good we're got Byrd Kreutcher's a repeater. I get really strong like Joe Biden vibes from that too. The GRS, RGR, just, do you know what that is? And Ricky goes, no. So Fritz continues. So he brings up his friends who, I guess he put a radio into his car or something for him. My clip one is the friend asking him about dolls.

He said, what's the doll? He goes, you mean the little Barbie? I said, no, that those stupid Barbie dolls. and said real dolls and I educated them they're really cool they're kind of like a sex doll

but you know you guys use them as a companion you know and because he's not married so I said you should he's not married you know and because he's not married so I said you should think about it there you go

what do you dress yeah you dress them up you made out of either silicone or TPE you know and they're real soft and they're and they're really companion goes I got a few I told him I just I didn't care anymore I said you know I got a few and they gave me a lot of company and he looked at me and he goes really oh yeah yeah he's missing the number one selling point they don't talk can you imagine like what a low point in in your life that your loser friends has to look at you at 50 years old and be like well you know you're not

married why don't you get a doll yeah like me I am looking at forward to that time in my life when I'm old enough I just don't give a fuck anymore and I just you're you're pretty close I'm getting there I'm getting there but I'm hiding my fucking fuck dolls I'll tell you that those are not when company comes over that's for sure I don't know that's gonna pet is Kaya you said not this clip but the clip before you set you set it up by saying this is what happens when he goes uninterrupted Carl if you play my last clip clip four I didn't mean interrupt you too much there I just was commenting on, or I'm sorry,

Benji's thing there, but yeah. No, I think it's good for you to interject and talk about stuff and talking for too long in a row for me, like, I have really large adenoids behind my nose. Let's finish up the

phrases Zaga here with this guy. Clip two, he continues about, he mentions something else he can do with dolls. Oh, okay. And he started, oh, my he just couldn't believe. He did that. He expected to see some, you know, some thing like a doll, but a big doll, you know. Yeah, not even a blowup, but like a mannequin type thing he's thinking of.

Oh, okay. Those lines, you know. Yeah, something really basic. Yeah, you know, I said, no, this is, I tell you, I mean, you can hug them, they're cuddly, they're, you know, you take care of them, they keep your company, and you can fuck them if you really, you know. He goes, really? Yeah, yeah, they feel good, too. I mean, they're all, you know, they're real soft and

Sir, are you spooning with that doll? He is. Gross. And he's not even the big spoon. That's what I caught, too. It's like, yeah, you can also fuck the fuck doll. Yeah, I know. It's like an addendum, like an extra thing that I just thought of.

You know, you could do that too, I guess. You're buried in the lead there, buddy. Cuddle it. Yeah, I usually just dress it up in the morning and hang out over the breakfast table. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, now we can get to my last clip. Clip three. If you want to dress it up, you can shop for the doll.

Oh, boy. It makes me happy. They make me happy because I'm not married or anything. You know, and they keep me company, if anything. Keep your company. You let it sit down. You dress it up. You go to Walmart, buy clothes for it, or whatever you want to do.

You can buy clothes online. There's this place called, and I said it's called the Doll Channel. and they you can go on on their site and you'll see all the dolls that you want so he may be going on that yeah no he's not that's really cool frizz

I think it's that's really cool frizz if you're going to go through the trouble of spending $1,000 $2,000 on a fuck doll and then you're going to treat it as a companion and then you go to Walmart to buy it fucking clothes that's fucking stupid

and you introduce it to your buddy who comes over? I got to say so, you know, go ahead. Walmart clothes, Carl. I have to say, do you think marketing this has to be tough because there's zero word of mouth.

This guy's the one example of someone who's spreading the word. No one else. You can't get a testimonial to put on the website. You can't get anything. I want to know if they share dolls like borrow. Can I borrow this? Doll swapping.

or maybe they double team a doll. Yeah, that's kind of what I was picturing. You know, I was so looking forward to Doug and Kaya being on it. I forgot how fucking disturbing you guys are. They're really just the worst people. I don't know what we were thinking. It's been so long.

That's why we wait every four or five years. Yeah, right. We did notice that you no longer do a takeover show. Yeah, right? I wonder why. Well, speaking of disgusting. So John did two streams yesterday.

The first one was Clay Day. His buddy Clay Dabbler was on the show. And John was watching his movie, one too many, with his buddy. Clay Dabbler, and he forgot that there's something that happens in this movie. That probably is against the terms of service for YouTube. Oh, we'll make sure I'm showing my screen when I show this to you guys. I hope he gets here soon.

Oh, what did you do for that now? I wonder what's taking him soon. And what's the hell on, bellamy on? You chipping right on. So I'm the one who blurred that. That was not blurred. And it's this cartoon of John banging these two girls. He's slapping the one chick's tits.

And the other girl's head explodes because he's banging her so hard. Clay's really choked his ribs. He liked that. Yeah, Clay really liked that a lot. But then after John's cracking up, he's like, Look how funny I am. He realizes like, oh shit, we're on YouTube and panic sets in. I know.

I don't care because it was cartoon now. I wouldn't expect it to pop up. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Fuck, shit. I don't know. I didn't even think about that. Good.

Good. Bye. Bye. What are you going to? So he immediately ends the stream and deletes it. And then starts up a second stream. And about 45 minutes into the second stream, he addresses this. So let me address the.

elephant in the room, shall we? It's so weird because I panicked today because I was on with Clay Dabbler, my good buddy. And I was just playing a scene for my movie because he was like questioning if he should buy it. Now, I didn't know, I can't remember.

You know, I haven't seen my movie in so long in it. And I love Modi. He's one of my closest comedian friends. And he has a very funny scene in the movie. We shot it in Manhattan. And when I put it up, then it was a cartoon of,

you know, and I was like, holy, but I mean, it was funny. He laughed out loud. I did, because I didn't expect it. But then I'm like, holy shit. And I had to fucking delete the stream because I didn't even expect it. It was totally innocent. He's totally innocent, guys.

He didn't expect it. And Troy Smith, exactly what I was thinking John's greatest defense I didn't know YouTube's terms of service oh you can't show that how am I supposed to know I didn't even know what I was showing at the time

John got his channel struck recently Kai you might know this so if you you can post videos on YouTube with firearms in them but you can't do it while you're live streaming really yeah I didn't know that

it's I guess it's a rule because they don't want threats or they don't want to see violence happening. So they just say, like, no guns if you're live streaming, you know? So you have to pre-record your school shooting. Yes. That might still get taken down either way. But

John was watching Anthony Kumia sing karaoke with his rifle, and he got his channel struck down. He couldn't live stream for a few days because of that. So again, you know, John just like, it's not my fault. I didn't fucking know, but it's like ignorance of the law is not

an excuse for that. So John's doing this second stream and it's getting later on into the day. He's cracking beers now. He's going to start drinking a little bit. Yeah, which, you know, it's always when I find things to be more fun on his show. And the other person who finds it fun is VTL, Vince the Warrior, because Vince loves to send deliveries to John's house and not the kind they leave at the door, the kinds with alcohol, we have to show your ID to the delivery driver to interrupt John during the show. And so what I've done here is I've enhanced the audio

so that we can hear the conversation John is having with the delivery person. Uh-oh. Dwarfee. I'm not going to accept one beer. I'm telling you right now, Dickett.

So the thing that John's mad about is that he wouldn't mind if you get a six-pack or a 12-pack or something, but what Vince has started doing just like delivering one beer and just like fucking it's annoying yes no

do you say that sorry I guess you can't see it no I didn't order anything and tell who where you're from yeah just tell them that I'm not on anything I'm a big time celebrity and they just try and troll you know said

tell them I'm a big time celebrity and they're trying to troll me okay sitting in a tiny apartment smelling it's a big time celebrity why am i surprised it's amazing i'm every time big time yeah they're trying to troll me but they're not succeeding right yeah yeah this isn't working at all by the way tell them that too when you go back to domino's tell them it's not working at all go back from whence you came leave the beer you're right guys can't a bite of that Pepperoni? No, the address

they're trolling. Oh, there's no one of the top. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they troll. I'm sorry. You seem like a sweet person. Well, that was making all better. Seems sweet.

So, how's your love hole? The woman is asking. The woman's very confused by all of this. She's like, is this the wrong address? Should I be bringing this somewhere else? She's like, no, no, no. The address is right. But they're trolling a big time.

Celebrity. She's like, I know those are words. I don't know what that means when you combine them together. The address is right. And I really want what you have in your hands. But, right. Yeah, and it's just like probably a 22-year-old girl just, and the door is opened by a surly 5 o'clock shadow, fat, bloated alcoholic. Go, I'm a celebrity. I'm so sorry you'll look so sweet. And there's signs up, Kaya. He has signs on the door that say no delivery. there might even be a sign in the front yard no rakes stop leaving rakes in my yard does he not realize how easy it would have been

if he would have just said thank you and then came back and said now there's a principle at stake yeah I'm on the air so you don't want to doximate address but this is the right address she's reading off the address and John's like ah you're doxie my address.

Thank you. You just did it. But, oh. It's okay. I'm sorry about that. Okay. So now John comes back and it's

lecture time to let everyone know that what just happened was not a funny prank. And no one should do that ever again. Always be remembered for the things that you say and do. La.

He's chugging iced tea. Chugging it. Never seen that before. Just think about it. That poor woman was so sweet. And what you did was now she drove over here from Domino's, which is not close, and came here, and you wasted the food, and you feel better.

about it. Sorcerer, what is that, there's got to be, what's the endorphin? Like, what is the, what, what is the gratification? Did you not see the part where you went over there and talk to her?

It's so funny, like he's not understanding, he's like, what's the pay, he's trying to say, what's the payoff? Yeah. This, you idiots, where do you come back and lecture us.

Yeah, you're doing it right now. He means for himself. Well, right. I didn't even get anything out. of it. Where's the whiskey? There was more exercise I was planning on doing today. Orphan, like, what is the, what, what, what is the gratification?

It just makes, I mean, is that supposed to hurt me in any way? Not at all. No, it's supposed to humiliate you and it worked. It works every fucking time, you idiot. I don't know why he keeps doing the same thing over and over again and is confused. Like, why are people keep fucking with me? Because it works every time. But I'm happy to report.

John is in love. I'm sure you guys know about Keanu, who he's very much in love with. But he actually has his love at the house with him. First beer of the night. Look at how happy he is. Never a happier version of John. The stars are aligned.

The one who's chugging his bushlights. It's like Jacqueline Hyde horny John, John is. about to come out again oh yeah oh god he was so on a 60th birthday kaya he was so hard watching you yeah i watched that and i felt bad for him and like every girl he knew people like john you really feel bad for because you have the impression that they're like harmless and then you have to remind yourself well he's harmless yeah but not for a lack of trying you know also i'm currently in a lawsuit with him that's what i mean like he's trying to ruin people's lives It's only that he's so incompetent, that nothing comes of it.

Fight the dabbler.com, if you want to contribute to Shulian My's legal defense. Thanks to Dr. Steve for setting that up for us. It's doing very well, by the way. I really appreciate all the support that we've gotten on that. So John is now claiming that he looks better than Vince the lawyer, which is a crazy thing to say. See, it's weird. Vince the lawyer will bench 315, but he still looks worse to me. Imagine having that face

And claiming that someone looks worse than you This is a level of delusion That we don't see very often Even here in this dabble verse of ours Yeah He's very handsome It's a great good-looking guy Now I announced on the show on Wednesday

That I have all three episodes Of the pro football arm wrestling championships that aired on CBS back in 2017 that John has been bragging about ever since. He was the star, he was the head writer, he was the producer, and on Wednesday's show with Adam Bush, we're going to start breaking down the first episode of this.

And I'm going to play a full package from Thursday show when John learned that we had this where he's walking back everything. He had nothing to do with it. Yeah, he was just told what to do. just a correspondent. He wasn't really all that instrumental in it. He doesn't know.

It's crazy. One of his top credits. Now he's doubted by as if it wasn't a big deal or anything like that. Surprising. And even on this Friday show, he's still freaking out about it. It was pretty funny watching. See, it's always funny. Like, I don't, it's like, just do it.

It's so happy about these CBS arm wrestling clips. And I'm like, well, yeah. I've been on TV, you just do it. You haven't. Okay. So now he's trying to spin it as, even if I did a horrible job and the show sucks, I was on television. Like, that's not what you used to say. And you weren't.

And I wasn't on television. But I was recently on primetime Alex Stein show when I was out in Dallas. I did normal world and I did Alex Stein show. And because of that, John now hates Alex Stein. Think of the relevancy. You're a nobody whose big appearance was on fucking that loser, Alex Stein, who does a show wearing a Tucker Carlson hat. The man who caused Fox News to get sued for his bullshit

where they had to say it's not real news. Axton, you're a hack. You're a total hack, and you fucking steal my bit and go out and interview people. But you don't even ask anything funny. But I'm the idiot. Okay. By the way, do you think I grabbed that as an ISO for us? But I'm the idiot.

I did. That was really odd where it started off where, Carl, you've never been on television. Oh, you've been on Alex Stein. By the way, he wears a hat. This is Tucker Carlson. By the Tucker Carlson is a real piece of shit. It just went way off the road there very quickly. I was doing like a mental murder board trying to keep up with his string of logic.

Okay, so Elkstein was in the Tucker Carlson. We don't like him. So fuck you, Carl. Right. I was like, wow, you forgot about who you were mad at really quick on that one. Yeah, does he think he's on blue sky? Who's this pandering to? Tucker Carlson.

He is a shit. He talks to his liberal buddies, Brian Karim, Richard Ojetta, and yeah, it's just a blue sky hour. They just all agree on everything the Democrats do is amazing. And actually, Richard O'Jet is in a lot of trouble right now. We cover that on who are these socials. But an old video of him talking about beating up a guy in an elevator came out. And he's running for Congress right now. They're like, is this a guy you want in Congress?

A guy who just wants to resort to violence. Vote for me. I'll curb stop all the opposition. You know, that would actually be a funny tagline if he leaned into it. He won't. But John is really coping. hard about the fact that we have, I can't, I haven't watched it. I can't wait to watch

this TV show because if it's as bad as John's making it seem like it is, we're going to have a gold mine on our hands. Yes. Suffering, fuck a dash. We have the arm wrestling tapes. It was a nationally broadcast special.

Big fucking deal. Why he's so concerned about it. Yeah, exactly. John, you're making it worse. Yeah, I know. I'm getting more and more excited about it. We're going to turn this into an extensive piece that we're doing.

I'm thinking emergency shows, bonus shows. I need you to bring me up to speed. What's the significance of the elephant noise? Is that like an exclamation point on a statement or something? It's his way of dismissing things. Yeah. Okay. We've been trying to figure out because it's morphed over the years.

Because he uses it a lot, but we couldn't figure out why. at first, and now it's turning into if he'll just be like, oh, and Lady Kate thinks he's got a big podcast, and pooh, the elephant, I don't know, it's an exclamation point, maybe? Yeah. I'm not even sure. John's so disgusting.

He just chokes on his own bile at certain points during the show. Oh, shit. Have you ever seen so much in that? He's just perfectly calm. Let's watch. Let's watch out again.

That's fucking great. This fan is not well. It's not going well. How do you fuck up sitting? He's literally just staring at the screen. He couldn't do that. Oh, God. So this is yesterday's show.

So John remembers that there's the game five between Seattle and Detroit, going on that night and he goes oh i'm going to place a bet so he pulls out his phone in order to place a bet on the baseball game teattle do five large that's five dollars yes yeah i was going to do five large large bet placed i was going to ask kind of what he thought five large bet but it's i guess i guess we know john literally bets five dollars on a baseball game in front of people, in front of all of us. It's so bad. It's so weird that he does that.

But now that he's got his phone, he just heard a text go off. Oh, boy. Old man on his phone. It's not from his children. It's definitely not from his children. They don't text him anymore. Didn't Anthony offer like $10,000 or something for John to produce a single text message

or email from his kids on his birthday? There was no communication going on. That is so sad. It's so sad. But he's laughing at all of us. So John's on his phone. He got a text message and then he gets distracted. I sped this up where I could to 5X because we just watched John on his phone for the next 12 minutes of the show.

Is this a bad time? The guy I was talking to today. Didn't I send you the video of inside of my house? Because I'm trying to find it right now. I was talking to one guy who might be watching. There's a girl I was shagging, hold on. Liar. The person I was talking to, if you're watching,

it's taking it like a little tour of my inside of my house. You have it? He's back to staring out of the phone. Oh, Christ. Just have a private Skype call at this point. Right. What are you doing? All right. So this actually goes out for a lot longer than that, but you get the point.

He's looking for a video he's sent to a guy and he can't find it. Go to your sent folder. Go to your text messages. Go to your photos. And find the video there. And he can't find it. He's just a retard. I was going to say something nicer than that.

But he's a retired. And I've never heard someone complain like this about their phone. Fuck I hate these new phones These new iPhones suck If you touch the screen At all It'll change everything

Kind of the park You can drive you nuts All right I think it's coming up What I've never heard that complaint before I own an iPhone I have a lot of friends who own iPhones

No one's ever been like Oh god damn you touch the screen screen and everything goes away. What? You could have just gotten up and filmed this house again in all this time. Right, yes. You're right.

It was 12 minutes goes by. It must have filmed it when it was that one day it was clean or something. The one day. He was trying to convince a buddy of his who lives up in New York to move to Cape Coral. And so he was talking about it. He's like, yeah, I wanted to show him how nice it is down here. And I know, I was thinking the same thing.

I owe it out as a Cape Coral. I'm like, I don't try to convince anyone to move to Cape Coral. I think everything that you just showed us is bullshit He's stalling He's whatever is pressing him right now He's trying to react to that Without stopping his stream And just bits and pieces of

Something comes out Like he thinks he's doing a good job Of deflecting from whatever reality is going on Right yeah he's mad He's pretending Oh I gotta find this thing on my phone Meanwhile he's freaking out about what is actually happening Arguing with someone

It does kind of look like he's typing If you think about the part where he said, you know, I hate these new iPhones. And then I think he said something like, uh, anytime you touch the screen, it changes everything. Yeah. That doesn't, that doesn't mean anything. That's, it doesn't work that way. That's what I mean. Unless you're writing something to a person who goes, fuck you, John.

I'm not your friend anymore. That would change everything. I was arguing with his daughter. Yeah, maybe. Birthday to me, I guess. Ah, he's bypass him aggressively. Oh. Back to this friend that he wants to move down there.

Why? I know. Is he that lonely? Yes. Yeah, that was a dumb question. Sorry. Thank you for figuring it out in real time. I appreciate that.

Can you imagine moving just to hang out with him? No. Of all people. Right. The worst idea. Well, I don't think that's his selling point. He was talking about how close it is to the Gulf of Mexico. Even his microphone has sweat stains on it.

So Kevin Brennan. So John's got this gig coming up. You could probably see it in the scroller on his video. He's got a gig coming up in New Jersey or Pennsylvania. Somewhere. New Jersey. Yeah, somewhere near Kevin Brennan. So Kevin Brennan went out of his show and he goes, I'm going to go into that comedy club.

I'm going to heckle the fuck out of John. And if they kick me out, I'm going to go and honk on my horn in the parking lot to distract everyone. And John's very shook by this threat. Pinky, listen to me. I'm talking to you. You're not. You are obviously suffering from dementia, in my honest opinion. There is no other explanation for it.

You don't remember inviting me to your apartment, that shithole you live in. You don't remember that, but you do remember your own twisted logic. Well, he came to my apartment. Picky, you're equating, coming to your apartment, as the same thing as threatening to come to my comedy show, heckling me, and then beeping the horn in the parking garage. Pretend you don't care, idiot. John just, he constantly gives all this stuff oxygen and keeps it going and he shows you that he's disturbed by it and threatened by it. John went to KB's apartment building to have a talk with Kevin Brenner. Get down here, be a man, let's have a talk.

And then he's like, and then you threaten to like yell things out during my comedy show. That's way worse. I know. It's not. It's a public place. It's not worse than going to someone's residence. And so you get a rise out of me. Yeah.

He's constantly showing you what it takes to get him riled up and afraid. John, don't book shows in an open-air tent with a giant open-air garage, towering over it. It's fun. I know. I don't think you guys are giving him enough credit. He's obviously pretty intelligent. He's trying to mask the yellow of the jaundice by using the green reflection of the green screen.

stuttering John Dustus All right, we got to poke a dabler, people. It is that time. Yay. It's time for everyone's favorite new game show. To poke a dabbler. What do you say, ladies and gentlemen?

And producer Chris. Oh, hello. Hey, buddy. Are you ready to poke? Mm-hmm. A dabbler? Also, today we will. talk about my call with my attorney yesterday. The emails with my attorney today and my new call

today with my attorney at 3.30 as the paperwork is being set in motion. Again, defaming somebody in the state of Alabama is against their penal code and blackmail is against another penal code in the state of Alabama. And shit weyer, well, I was going to say, can he be this stupid? But we all know

the answer. He is just that stupid. And he doesn't understand the rule of law. And the rule of law simply states if you break these laws

and you decide to defame and you decide to extort, and you decide to extort, and black man wait is he already an attorney at this point it sounds just like an attorney the way he's talking you will suffer those consequences

so who's all that work to get a bottle of water yeah that's what I was thinking giant sore on his hand just got back from the gym today day five at the gym as I train

for the ladies that's I'm going to beat the shit out of us later yeah right and you'll see how much biceps that's right because a thin

Mr. Melendez is ah but a beautiful Mr. Belendez and you'll see how good I will look watch watch on Friday when I stand up

on this show after somebody superchats me a hundred and you will see what did john say next here your choices number one the reinvention of my physique be the transformation of my physique next the evolution of my physique for the metal morphosis of my physique. And lastly, the reformation of my physique. God damn. And lastly, two,

the mutation. Oh, Cardiff, he's good at this. He's very good at this. I want it to be number four. I'm taking four. What do you think, Doug? So just so I'm clear, we're talking about after six days in the gym, I will go with B, the transformation.

Okay, very good. guy i'll go with reformation yep that's good uh producer chris uh number one reinvention yeah okay they're all stupid let's find out to poke a dab and you'll see how good i will look watch watch on friday when i stand up on this show after somebody superchats me a hundy and you will see the reformation of my physique. The reformation. You got that one, Chris?

No, Kyya. Yeah. Congratulations. And you will realize the Duke is back. That's all for this time. Come back next time to find it if you are man enough

to poke a dabbler. Also go to patreon.com slash Cardiff Electric and subscribe for crying out loud. I want to soccer. It's in my nature. Sit, Eugene, sit. Good dog.

Do do, do, do, do, do. Cardiff does have fun, doesn't he? Yeah. All right, well, I want to thank, speaking of fun, what an excellent episode this was today. Thank you very much to Kaya and Doug. Now, Doug, you reached out to me back in, like, July and you said hey Carl you have this top 100 podcast lists maybe I can come on and we

could feature those podcasts and prove to people that are actually not all that good and I said yeah it's a great idea let's do that and then the only date you gave me was when we were in Detroit it's the only time that you were available so I'm glad we finally got this to work you're able to come by I don't know why you're bringing up old shit but okay I appreciate coming by and being on the show today people should check out your show who's right yeah before we get to the plugs. I think you forgot that Kai and I each brought another podcast.

We each listened to another episode of Maps in real life and thought we would go through Who's Rightpodcast.com. One more segment. Who's Rightpodcast.com and check out what Doug is up to. And, Kaya, thank you so much for coming on, buddy.

Great to see you. I know you're not feeling well today. Oh, I feel better now. We did a fantastic job. What are you promoting these days? I know you're still on the official podcast. Yes. Well, you mentioned kick. I'm on kick now.

Kick.com slash Kayo or son or I'm trying to set up a website now, kaya.fm. K-A-Y-A dot FM. And that has all of my links. Discord, Kik, Twitter, YouTube. You can go there if you like all the weird shit I find because this is kind of just what I do usually on my streams. Talk about weird fucking dull fuckers.

I think we're maybe we're. away from the show that Kai and I are going to do together. We're taking all of the pieces that we like of your show and basically stealing the concept and doing it. Good. What's that going to be? Well, we're not ready to say the name yet because for other reasons, but we've already got our

progress. Our third chair lined up, which is nice, Doug. Oh, sick. Yeah, because whenever he comes on, it brings me back to old WATP, which is what we're going to try to do. so I love a nagging here yeah I feel like I'm getting consulted right now I'm not quite sure oh okay you're picking up on it that's fine so anyway about the best 100 podcast if you want to come over and check me and Kyle listening to them good all right well guys I'll I'll let you get out of here thank you both so

much for being on it was a lot of fun doing the show again yeah thank you thanks for listening everyone yes and with that We've got to find out what's going on on the internet. Jenny Jingles has given us the internet news. Internet News with Jenny Jiggles. From Facebook, Brett Stevens reports. Old Stuttering John friend Richard OJetta is gaining popularity on Twitter for being Richard OJetta. Maybe John should have him on and get some of that Ojetta rub.

Nigel Udaman notes. It's always violence with this guy. Brett Purdy suggests a slogan, taking out the right, one curb stomp at a time. Rajvir Sajahoda shares, according to John, he can't come on because he's on holiday. Long-ass holiday. Seems like even Richard got sick of him. Ryan Malady. I'm surprised it took so long for him to move on from Stut Joe.

From Patreon, Snugso Pines. MLP sounds like Ethan Klein, Brad Gebhardt offers. MLP needs some of Stutjo's Adderall. To the TM writes, Wow, I can't believe Just Do It got my little pony as a guest for this week's show. That's really cool. Deluxe Gripes. Carl is such a poser.

The Rochester Red Wings are his local team. He only likes the Cubs because Ween is from Chicago. Sell out. The WATP. Directions Department comes back with, Weenish from New Hope, Pennsylvania. And that's a fact jack. The negative creep is going through some shit. Hold on.

Brendan Shob doesn't like David Lynch? I don't like David Lynch either. Oh, God, I can't believe this is how I find out that I am, in fact, retarded. Comquant diff TV tuning ass. Is Ava playing a work from YouTube? Read Rothschild comments. The way Stuttering John feels his birthday is to be universally recognized and celebrated is another example of his stunted emotional growth.

It's like a toddler's expectation. Greg's mate observes, his jaw is swinging like a saloon door. JFK Headchunk asks us, stroke or coke? You decide. Homey 8505, John was cartoon drunk, just needed to be hiccabing. And from Dablers Anonymous, new analysts post the resume of John Melendez. Hilarity ensues. Highlights include, highly organized, exceptional writer, team player, fast learner, and problem solver.

Chemical ad tags with Secretary Howard Stern Show, delivered microwave baked potatoes and answered the phone. Penguin's ex-Army vet is outraged. Team player? Should have potential employer consider the many lawsuits. Fast learner? Bobabooie couldn't get SJ to do a thing admitting it on air many times. Walter Riffs, he's

definitely a creative writer of fiction. Shogun 647 points out literally every word of this is a lie. And Rub Future plays out with a thought-provoking poem titled The Unlaundered Man. He wears his filth like a defiant shield. A history of

stains upon the field of cotton clinging to his bloated shape each t-shirt boasts blotches he won't escape his jeans the wide loose flags of his neglect pull sadly round his feet without respect for fit or form he carries through the air the stench of a man who does not care It's cool. Beautiful. Doug, Jody is in the Discord demanding that you plug your fucked out company. I don't even remember what it's called.

Just a goof we're doing on the show. Okay, there you go. Sorry, Jody. Let's listen to some voicemails. See what the people out there are saying. Boner guy is a message for you, Doug. Hey, Carl. I had to call in knowing that Doug was going to be on Saturday's show.

Doug from the fabulous Who's Right and Dear Flabby. Doug, love you, love your shows. Can you do me a favor, though, and put the latest collection of Zach Attack songs available for sale on your website, which I think is who's right.com, please. There's been some fabulous ones, which I'm keen to buy,

and also do you think you could vote for Carl for me at the creepoff.com, too? Thanks, mate. Done and done. All right. You got it, Bonar Guy. So you are going to vote for me at the creepoff.com? Is that what you're saying?

I thought he said vote for Vinny. Oh. Well, I tell you what. The WATP cis and trans combo is so much better than the fucking stuttering John's and trans combo. That shit's pathetic over death. I'm confused. I'm confused by that.

This guy's mad. Let me get this straight. All I got to do is die to get a segment on your show named after me. I'll do it. I don't even care. All right. This is Ben. I don't fucking care who this is.

Which segment to you answer before you die, please. Which reminds you, I forgot to play the Stinger for the voicemails. It's a bunch of crap. Swing in a minute. Rock and roll. We miss you, Gary. Hey, I know you all is kind of stupid over there, but you know that dumbass is going to county jail for that time. that means he's going to probably be on the floor every time he goes in there for a day or two

because he's not going to be in there long enough to get quite to be classified in any area so they'll probably keep him in the intake tank where it's nasty everybody sleeps on the fucking floor and you have shit crawling on you or shit on you real shit and nasty people and fucked up people and farting and smells it's going to be a shithole hopefully he'll get enough time to qualify for the weekend and they'll let him out after a few hours but if they really want to be dixed him they'll keep them there for the whole 48 hours on the floor

just telling you he ain't going to get nothing else it might be worse than that so yeah I don't know what fucking jail you all are thinking about he ain't getting no fucking tablet you have enough time to be qualified you have to be in a certain area and be classified already the only fucking tablet he's getting is one up his asshole okay this guy sounds like he does what he's

talking about. Now, what I know for sure is that we'll never hear the truth about this from Aaron Imholt. He'll talk about watching football on Saturday and making friends. Meanwhile, picturing him curled up the field position on the floor somewhere for 48 hours is funnier. So I'm not one to, I don't want to get involved in all this shit, but if I did want to, what I would do is keep an eye on the court pages for the county that he's in, and you can watch the inmates when they're getting released and then potentially reach out to them to get an interview on anybody that might

have crossed paths. But I don't know. Interesting. So Moody brought up the fact that you could actually set up phone calls with the inmates and he thought it'd be interesting to interview people who have spent time with Aaron in jail.

And Aaron's response was that we were trying to start a riot. We were trying to incite violence in the jail while he's there. A riot? Yeah. Yeah. He's not smart.

No, he's not. You know, dude, I got some serious fucking steel toe news. Oh. Just kidding. Let's go Rangers. Oh, fuck you. Fuck the Rangers. They beat the Sabres the other night.

I think that's what he's talking about. King of Portugal calling him. Carl, King of Portugal here. I know why you are getting sued. I just watch your video. Dave Hattel calls Sergeant John Hout, and, well, hell, you are dressing like a just-de-a-pick. Look at producer Chris, is a man.

Look at Adam from Buffy. A alpha man. And look at you. This is not hard. It's not hard to understand. Cheerio. It was very mean. very mean for the most part

you didn't mind it was one cool part all right ready to roll the credits yep all right guys until next time bye I gotta go

bye I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go okay man

that was a good episode I was a good episode I enjoyed that. This is Nate from Flint, Michigan. And guess what? This voicemails over. I got to go. Bye.

Bye. Boom. A plane his hit volley. Vinny Paulino because he's so fat. Boom. That was a great episode. That was really great. This is it. It's over. Okay? Goodbye.

Goodbye. Hey, bye. Goodbye. Okay, bye. Well, then this is all Carl's fault.