Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep667 - Howard Stern Interview, The Mens Room

Episode Date: October 19, 2025

This week we’re celebrating Jocktober by revisiting The Mens Room, an afternoon drive show in Seattle. These guys have stingers, segments, energy, and tons of nonsense. The one thing they don’t have is the afternoon off when everyone else in their town is watching the Mariners game.  Blind Mike joins us to remind us that he’s been studying these idiots for years and it’s amazing that their show hasn’t changed at all. Robb Spewak is our Cringe of the Week on the Mike O’Meara Show. Howard Stern was interviewed by Andy Cohen and Howard hasn't been this candid in many years. He was actually forced to answer questions his fans have been asking for quite some time. Steel Toe calls Geno from jail and immediately regrets it. Stuttering John had a comedy gig last night and blamed me for a guy messing with him. I am living rent free in a place where I don’t choose to spend any time. Blind Mike - http://blindmike.net/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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W-A-T-P, W-A-T-P. Hello, everybody's a country, and welcome to another episode of who are this podcast, the only show that closes with the squeegee bit. I'm your host, Carl, the $850,000 man with me this week, a man who loves sports and music and nothing else. From the Blind Mike Project, it's Blind Mike Geary. Good to be back.

It's been a while. I've missed producer Chris, particularly. I guess you see enough of me. also producer chris is here oh hello please go to who are these dot com that's where you get our email address a voicemail number link to the subreddit link to our discord server link to our merchandise link to our youtube channel and that link to patreon supercast featuring two exclusive bonus episodes every single month i think we might record a bonus tomorrow producer chris what's your availability tomorrow i am suddenly available nice because uh yeah i think we're going to do

a living in the past episode i might do a remote but uh okay excellent so uh get the bonus episodes on there we do two every month and so uh we do owe you two this month we'll start tomorrow and then we might do another one on tuesday i don't know it's getting nuts it's getting crazy with all the bonus content around here yeah i really do it's too much but it's so so fun to do it is fun i enjoy it also we encourage our listeners give us five stars on a little podcast or wherever you review podcasts and then shit all over it's in the common section so that ai gets very confused when you ask about my popularity today we'll be reviewing the men's room this was a suggestion from producer Chris, and before that, Blind Mike, we follow us and separately not discuss it with each

beforehand. Let's get into it. This is a show that's hosted by Miles Montgomery, Steve the Thrill Hill, and the Ted Smith produced by Mike Hawk. Get it. And I have to say, this was not planned, but we reviewed this for Jack Tover back in October of 2022. So that was three years ago.

And Blind Mike was the guest on there. And he did suggest that we do this show. He goes way back with these guys. I assume you had me on because of a men's room expert. We talked about it on the Kirk Menehan show six years ago, and they haven't changed an iota. It's the exact same show. They do all the same bits. They react to the same jokes in the same way.

It's great. Yeah, so these guys, they started in Baltimore in 2003. They moved to Seattle in the spring of 2005, first airing on 100.7, The Buzz. The show was unmoved to 99.9.9, the Rock of Seattle. And eventually grew into the highest rated afternoon show in all of us. Seattle. The show was a nationally syndicated radio program produced by Westwood 1 from 2017 until June of 2020 before being dropped from Westwood 1. That's got to be a bummer to be like nationally syndicated. And they're just like, never just in Seattle again.

Yeah. All right. Well, how the meritor's doing pretty good actually. All right. Damn COVID takes another victim. Right. It's not fair what they did to these guys. So these guys have their show up on YouTube every day. It's live on YouTube. And it's bizarre. It's on the KISW 99.9.9 channel, which has 2,700 subscribers to their channel, this radio station. Like yesterday's episode of this show, 776 views, 79 thumbs up, zero comments. And what's really bizarre about it is that they run things differently for YouTube and their podcast than the radio, because they take out all of the ad spots and the music and everything else what's going on.

and if you watch on YouTube there are times that go on for 10 to 12 minutes where it's just dead air and there's just a screen that says commercial break and it's weird because this show is so high energy that it's very abrupt it just goes away and then they'll start playing like best up stuff because these commercial breaks are so long i i don't know maybe they play music too mike do you know uh it doesn't i i've never thought that they did yeah steam like you said some of the breaks are long enough that maybe they throw a song in there because i noticed they also cut out songs for youtube i don't know if you noticed that when they mentioned like paul stanley and ace for whoever they were talking about your music guy you know but yes

i will uh i have to pull some that but first i want to show you what it's like to be a uh radio disc jockey in the year 2025 this is yesterday's episode all right october 17th 2025 you know Things have changed a lot in the industry, and so it doesn't sound like you're being transported to the 80s or the 90s. In Ted v. the FCC is coming up for you at 435. What else do we have for you today? Oh, we will drink and toast into the weekend with a shot of the day that it's Bad Choice Friday time. Here's a concept for you. But today we are going to celebrate winning.

Winning. Spell W-I-N-N-N-I-N-G winning. Oh, man. But first we got a tofer from Eddie Money. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. This show, the production of it, all the sounders, I mean, they haven't updated this in decades. It was not really fair for you to have me on after a bad choice Friday with the hangover I'm dealing with. All the wackiness that happened yesterday.

Oh, no. I love that they're teasing this thing where they do their shots. or whatever they literally three and a half hours from now well i'll just drink a shot and then they go to commercial break like wow can't wait for that that's going to be exciting my favorite part too is like if you if you miss friday show don't worry because if you tune in monday it starts with previously on the men's room oh good they tell you who won bad choice friday yeah like if you're worried if you're like if i had to miss friday's episode what happened They give you, like, you're watching an episode of Quincy.

It's all about Quincy, Mike. I know, I know. I can't get over. There's other serial drama out there, you know. I just focus on the ones that kids know. Yeah, I hear you. The youngest guy we have on our show and he's referenced in Quincy. So the Bad Choice Friday, let me explain what this is.

They pick two songs that normally wouldn't get airtime on their rocking station. and they put a poll out on X and you get to vote on which song is the better of the two songs. And as you just heard from Miles there, is that the theme is winning. And I assume that it's something to do with the Mariners being in the playoffs right now, the ALCS. I would imagine that's the tie-in here. They don't really say that, but whatever. And so here's our first choice. And this is what you were talking about, how as soon as the song starts playing and they're not talking over it,

there is someone quick on the trigger to just pull the audio off and it just goes dead silent they're just dead air well i have a different theory i think this is pre-recorded because if you notice nothing they say is topical really like i mean they like the later they get into like ace freely it's like but that that was from the day before like i think they'd pre-record this make sure it's perfect because it's there's very little that would need to be trimmed out it's all like very succinct and quick okay if that's the case then the callers are fake. I believe that. Okay.

I always have. Okay, you're blowing my mind. Because they make so many references to what time it is during the day. Who's in the building at that time? We'll get into it. But you might be right about that, Mike. I'm going to push back on you.

I don't know the answer. You've worked at realizations. I haven't. I guess technically. But to be fair, I had that theory before they were doing this. This is in their live tab on YouTube. You're right.

So it would be a lot of work to make it seem, live. I'll give them that. Okay. So this is the beginning of a bad choice Friday, our first choice. So we're going to celebrate winning today for whatever reason on a bad choice Friday with Joe Esposito. And now we're just watching them enjoy the song. Yeah. Yeah, Joe Espozito. Ah, Karate Kid, Mike. Yes. Okay, yeah. We know where the songs from. Good stuff. He has the look of a man. who thinks this is going swimmingly. Oh, yeah.

Well, this, this bit is most of the plan for the show today. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is, this is got to fill four hours. So they're like, this is great. And it's introduced as for whatever reason. Winning for whatever reason. Because if it is pre-recorded, like, maybe the Mariters already out of the playoffs at this point.

They don't know. That's a good point. That could be it. I just meant like earlier that day or something. I don't know that it's alive necessarily. because there's so much going on all the time on this show. But maybe it does have to be alive. You might be right.

All right. Well, let's find out who you're the best around is competing against. And you're the best around taking on Paul Stanley. And they pull that down immediately. We watch them smile at this song. Yeah. It's good stuff. Yep.

It's a pretty good song. They're pretty triumphant. I can see this in karate. That's something like it's like a montage. Rocky. Yeah, absolutely. Live to win. He's running down the beach.

What was the alert? Live to win until you die. Until you die. Okay. Good stuff. Now, that clip right there, they started a conversation. They didn't pot up the audio yet. So that would let me to believe that maybe it is live and someone is actually potting

it up and down while they're playing music. But again, there's incompetent people who fuck shit up regardless of whether they have to do it on the fly or not. Oh, I'll give them that. I'll live in the world where it's live. E-Rock is in the chat. He says radio people pretending to not know something comes off as obvious and stupid.

Speaking of radio, guys, I love, what I love to imagine when I hear guys like this, because like I said, I've checked it on their show from time to time over the course of years, and it's always this high energy. They have the exact same in your face voice like this. They're always excited.

They're always happy. They're always ready to booze with the fellas. And what I like to imagine is like, what happens on a devastating day? like what is it what is it what is it songs about losing because they've never experienced like negative emotion everything's always awesome and crazy yeah yeah i was actually impressed that these guys could keep up this energy level because they obviously are pissed that they have to work and no one else at the station is there god i hope that wins that's where we're at on a positive Friday that's exactly

right speaking of positive Friday there's six people in the building this afternoon oh yeah as a seattle meritor's getting underway at three o'clock basically we've determined we're going to let any phone call through. It doesn't matter who you are, when a wax job you are. You know, sometimes we're like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't put that guy on. Not today. You get full, full access to the radio station. But what we would like to do is celebrate these six employees here at Odyssey, Seattle, with a little salute. First of the foremost, we want to give it up to afternoon. Or, I'm sorry, midday stud on 107.70 on, Christy Taylor's in the afternoon.

Look at that. Right on. So this comes off to me as guys who are really fucking annoyed that everyone got the afternoon off to watch the Mariters game and they have to be there doing their dumb shell. But that's what I mean. They can't say that though. They have to go. It's pretty crazy.

We're the only ones in the building. Wouldn't you say? I guess we have free reign. And I can't imagine how fucking mental it's going to get when they let those calls through. I bet it's going to be bananas. They even called it positive Friday. He's looking around the room and there's only three of them there, One of their co-hosts, the Ted Smith's not even there.

He took the day off and looking around going, yeah, there's only six people in the building. How about that? One other mid-afternoon show is here live. Can you believe that? 107.7 as their DJN, but no one else. The inmates are taking over the asylum. Look out.

You can tell that he's pretty annoyed that he's there and his co-workers are not. And I want to thank all of our coworkers for contributing so much to this radio station. You guys do a backup job. Enjoy your six-day weekend. Yes, we've got to, we've got to. obviously we've got as they would say some strong headwinds as the mariners get underway at the 3 o'clock we want them to win the game we also want to be able to come in

here and do our show for you yeah so uh just keep in mind that what a concept ted's not here we are on a very slim staff uh today's Jesus Christ they really beat this into the ground too they talk about it quite a bad are they complaining yeah high energy complaining yeah positive complaining I don't think I realize that aspect of either they were against the Mariners game no one is listening to them and they know There's not a person in Seattle who's possibly listening to this right now. Even if they're in their cars, they're listening to the Mariners game. Well, but even take the person that's not listening to the Mariners game,

they're not listening to it, guys, be guys, and talk about drinking beers and watching sports. It doesn't make any sense. Right, that demo is definitely tuned into the game. Of course. The Mariners haven't made it this far in the playoffs in how, since the 90s, right? Yes. And the time before that was 2001 that they were even in the playoffs. So it's probably pretty pretty.

exciting in Seattle right now for baseball, I would imagine. And these schmucks are stuck in here doing this dumb show and I have to call out the co-workers who were able to get the afternoon off. So then they get into a topic for phone callers to call in with. This is a very important element of any show. I was going to say morning show. This is an afternoon show. But any show where you don't want to prep a lot of material and so you want callers to do

it for you. So you have to get the conversation rolling, right? So they start talking about, like, what weird thing would your parents not let you do? Or what crazy thing would they let you get away with? And Steve, the thrill here, his dad had the stereo system. He wasn't allowed to touch it. And he had a friend come over one time, right? And the friend turned on the stereo and tuned in a radio station.

Oh, boy. That did not go over well in that household. You do not touch my start to put it back through my radio station. station and turn it off. You think he knew that you were taking the fall for your buddy? I don't know, and it didn't matter, because he looked like he was going to kill. Again, we turned down the stereo. Well, Brad turned on the stereo and changed the station.

My father treated it like we grabbed the family dog, which we did not own, skinned it, and strung it up on a flagpole. I mean, it was basically, that was true of us. Mike, I don't know about your home in particular. But if I was to be found in my parents' room, I could be laying on the bed, I could be reading a book, I could be doing homework. I could be doing whatever they. I could be holding clothes.

Why are you in here? Get out of my room. God forbid I walked into that bathroom. I don't know what was in there. I don't know if those are a nuclear bomb. I'm not sure exactly what they were keeping for me. But whatever it was, it was off limits for me to even walk into the room. It was never like full on, you know, I'm going to kill you for walking in here.

But there was very much a barrier that you felt walking in there. It was understood. And I was selling miles. I'm like, my kids, if I'm not. looking for him. I have the time to land on my bad watching TV. Imagine if you have to be yes and this conversation. This is crazy. Yeah, that would

really test a man. Holy shit. I don't if you caught this either. I don't think I've ever heard another radio show where you have two of the big voice radio. It's crazy to listen to one guy talk like this and get really crazy on another guy who responds

like this slightly deeper. Yeah, you're right about that Steve. Yeah, I know. It's very difficult. Fortunately, I'm watching the video so I could tell who's Miles and who's Steve the thrill. But there's no way I would know if I wasn't watching this. But that was funny that the guy goes, you know, and I was a lot of my parents better and they're all just going nod at their heads like, oh, yeah, yeah, parents better. And he goes, and, you know, I wasn't on the bathroom either.

I don't know what was in there. And I guess that's why I get to the name of the thrill. Steve is just like, oh, yes, you do, sex toys. Is that where people keep their sex toys in a bathroom? In the toilet tape. That doesn't make any sense at all. You know, you put it next to the bed, I would think. Yeah.

Unless you're fucking in the bathroom a lot, which God bless, you know. As an adult man, I can't understand this. My parents wanted privacy in their bedroom. I don't know why that would be. I don't go figure. And then he goes, no matter what I was doing on their bed, whether I was doing homework or folding clothing, wait, what? What kind of 11-year-old is this?

Yeah, that kind of turned into an interesting conversation. But no. Well, they continue on with all of these things their parents unfairly got mad at them for. and finishing the milk. I'm sure you guys can relate to this one. If you guys want to carry out this conversation after the clip plays, that's fine, because I'm sure you guys can totally relate. And it's like me and my brother, and saying, like, well, who finished the milk?

And I'm my brother, and we're like, why did you buy it if you don't want us to do? Cereal. I did. Right. Like, what do you want us to do with the milk when it's in the fridge? Because you keep buying it, you do know we're going to drink it, right? And it has a shelf life. It's not like we can just leave it in there for a year and a half.

Like, you bought the milk. you also bought a cereal so what we did you see is put the milk in a bowl of cereal and even though to me that is very self-explan producer chris you want to get in on this conversation i'll just pause it we'll come back to it but you seem like you had something to say you ever put milk on cereal and your parents were pissed or anything like that and no one likes a no at all i'll give them this i've never heard of this generalization like you know how mom was always mad when you have the last glass of milk yeah no this is completely unrelated and the way they're talking about it like it's so fresh in their heads and like this is like such an important thing to go oh my gosh I'm sure you guys remember eating cereal that your parents being pissed they finish the milk what self-explanatory it doesn't work with parents sure you couldn't finish them and then because you try to leave a little bit of milk and then

they're equally mad they call you right back down the stairs who left this little ass bit of milk and you're like look man right there's a fine finish it right there's a very fine line between did you screw up or did you do the right thing? So as the thrill is going and then if you leave milk they're pissed about that and Mike Hawk points his finger and he goes, you're right. Exactly.

And these are men in there, I'm guessing in late 50s, is that fair? That sounds right. Like parents just don't understand. Right. We should hear they bit on homework next. I guess we're playing Pac-Man and you stayed out after the street lights

went off and your mom was out ready for that? I hate when my mom gives me a curfew. What are we talking about? So, obviously, this conversation, I'm sparing you. This went on for 20 minutes of all these different scenarios with stereos and bedrooms. You're scaring me because it's the time of year where they might talk about Halloween candy. They didn't.

They didn't. They didn't. They are getting close. They're saving it for next week. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of Halloween candy talk coming up. No doubt. No, this positive Friday, they're.

they're talking about what were the what was weird things your parents would not let you do so of course a caller calls it well also what do they let you get away with and so a caller is on the line for i don't know 20 minutes waiting for this is a very long commercial break after they finally get back to it and this is the first call so when it comes to your parents what would they let you get away with or what weird thing would they not let you do 206 803 rocks oh i'm sorry that that was them telling them okay so call us and you tell us and then they went to break and now this is the first caller they are by the way and like if scorch had any life in him this is the show he would have done oh yeah if scorch was able to like really sell

something like these guys are that's the type of show they just have like a more polished radio ability maybe but it's it's basically scorch yeah what scourch really like to do was find those weird polls that were out there what percentage well i forgot my scorch voice what percentage of yeah what would you what would your parents not let you do it. What would you do if you had to do it? That's pretty good. But I wasn't a scorch in a while. So here's the first caller call it, Ed. Hello, Cheyenne.

Welcome to the men's room. Oh, la. So, when I would kid, I would love Can you either still doing that shit? Ola. Like, if you asked Minifans, what does Ola, I mean? A lot of them

would have forgotten. These guys are just still trapped in this bit. Hello, Cheyenne. unwelcome the other problem that you have like on kirk show of copying another corny bit that another show does is you get a lot of people listen to just think that that's like your bit oh like oh do they call in and say a lot it's like no these corn balls did it we didn't bet that assholes we're making fun of it I swear to the bench room our gentlemen so when I was a kid I would love to do like

thrill-seeking things, still do, and one of the things that my parents would let me do, even though I was in a wheelchair at the time, was they would let me jump off this extremely high bridge, and the passers by, it looked weird, because I would need help getting over

the railing, so it looked like this kid was just being tossed off this bridge, even though I wanted to, and then also secondly, I guess I'll start laughing now, so that we think this is an entertaining call. Good stuff. I was paralyzed.

I guess it's kind of funny. It looks like a dummy getting chucked off a bridge. That was my life. What are you going to do? So they're very excited about that guy participating in the show. And so then, you know, callers call in. Whatever. Let's fast forward an hour from where we started.

When I started playing clips for you, we were teasing bad choice Friday. And so one hour later, they get right back to it. All right. A Cotein toast the weekend with a show of the day That it's Bad Choice Friday time You know it's Bad Choice Friday You know it's Bad Choice Friday Hey man

This is your fault And today we celebrate winning On a Bad Choice Friday with Joe Esposito I'm telling you Mike They do this every hour They have to do this sex event This is so much going on I know it's so wacky

It's like what a family guy makes fun of whenever they're Yeah, whatever they're doing a... They're weaning in the butt. They're crazy eye around the douche. That's these guys. Oh, ho, ho, ho. They're having so much fun with the sounders and just hitting buttons over there.

It's polished, but it's ridiculous. It's so dated. Because there's radio shows, obviously, I grew up enjoying. So when I would hear comedians, like, bitch about having to do morning radio or radio in different markets, whatever, I would always think, like, ah, fuck you. Like, I like radio shows. And then I realize, oh, these. These are the guys they're talking about. Yeah.

Those fat cats in Washington. All right. So they've reset Bad Choice Friday. They play the songs all over again. They laugh about them again and they're having a lot of fun with that. They remind you to go to X and vote in the poll. An hour later, they do all of that all over again. And then an hour after that, they finally get to this thing they've been teasing shot of the day.

And I'll play the clip. And I'll tell you what this reminds me of. First. Headlines are going to 5.50. In the meantime, and we've met it to the weekend and drinking time. Yeah. Somebody out there deserves to be recognized. Most tequila! And the men's room knows just who it is.

So to you, we say, bottoms up, sailor. Mas tequila! You're the toast of our shots of the day. Drink time it is, and as usual, we head to Zee Drink Test, and Steve a thrill hill to find out who we're toasted. Yes, indeed. And today we told us Mr. David Sasser of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

Now, David and his family, they were visiting relatives. All right. Do you guys know what bit this is? It's literally who to man. It's Opie's who to man, who demand, who demand, who demand, who demand? Who's in the news today? What's in the news today? Who do man?

Oh, well, shot of the day. Of course they're ripping me off. Classic radio guys. Of course. I just, I couldn't believe that this is still going on. It's an afternoon. October. All right.

So he goes through and reads about this guy's story, a dog shoot a battery and a fire started, and he got home. Oh, man? It's also kind of weird news. It's kind of weird news, actually. It's rude a man and weird news. You're saying they have stories. Some are odd and some are strange.

Some are odd. It's underrated stories that are very strange. Weird news. Fucking A. All right. So anyway, this. This guy, he sees it on his surveillance. You know, he's got the cameras on in the house, and so he rushes home.

And, of course, turns out he's a firefighter. And so that's why he's the shot of the day and the Friday toast. The reason we're toasting David Sassers, yeah, he's a firefighter, and that was his boss. Yeah. Good chance. That's a good luck. So we pour this booze, and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. Yeah.

So over the tongue and down the throat to party in our tummies. Tell the hola, bitch, Ola. Okay, your winner on a bad choice Friday coming up next. Okay, wait. This dude is fucking corny. They have to do that every Friday. I remember. They've been doing it for years.

That's so crazy. Yeah. So embarrassing. Ola, bitch, Ola, I believe is what they say to women. I can't remember if that's accurate. Maybe guys get it too. But, yeah, that's a big one. Okay.

By the way, coming up momentarily is Howard Stern getting interviewed by Andy Cohen. Imagine if Howard was doing the same show. He was doing at the 90s. I'd still listen to it. Oh, yeah. Oh, la, biches. Like, these guys haven't changed at all. Howard's changed way too much.

Yeah. You know, there needs to be a balance there. There's a middle ground. There's a middle ground for this. You can be an old man doing edgy radio and have it not be this. Right. All right. So, last clip I have on here.

I know you guys have been on pins and needles. Who wins Bad Choice Friday? Right? We have the Paul Stanley song, Live to Win. We have, you're the best from the Karate Kid soundtrack. We'll remember enough suspense. I know. So I'm sure you guys are both kind of picking your winners right now.

You got that in your head. You want to know if you won or not. I got money on this. I mean, there's people. Draftkings.com, promo, WATP. We're not a bad choice Friday out there. Could you imagine you would live? listening to the show for three to half hours

now. And you're just like, just fucking tell me who won't bench? Come on. Come on, Stanley. They're teasing it nonstop. It's so silly. When are they going to get to the fireworks factory? Today we celebrate winning.

On a bad choice, Friday, your choices today. Joe Esposito, you're the best. Taking on Paul Stanley and live to win. Mike, how is the voting? Not even close, Miles, but we do have a clear winner. And that winner, as we all know, it's right there, and the name is indeed the best around.

Joe is the Z. I want a bad choice. Welcome to the weekend. You're listening to the men's room. 99.9. KISW.C. There's like, no payoff to it. Best around one. All right, sounds good. See you at the other side. Wasn't even close. Wasn't even close.

If you're listening live and you were distracted for a second, you don't know who won. Yeah, I know. You're like, wait, who'd they say? They'd like play the song again. No drum roll. We didn't chuckle with the chorus again. I mean, you can fill time, I guess.

Yeah, this whole show is just filling time. Oh, but it's it. Go ahead. Go ahead, Chris. I was going to say that was our segment. Yes. I forgot to paint a bumper. Thank you.

We just kind of got into it. I do enjoy Jock Tover so much. I forgot how much fun it can be. Yeah. Because radio's gotten so sad. We were talking about this on this little piggy last night where Aaron is still, Aaron Imhole on Steeltoe is still talking about getting a job on the radio. He says he's been going back and forth with this one station there, this group,

and they've had meetings on and off for the last year and a half. And Aaron goes, well, the last time I got hired to do morning radio, it was a four-year journey of all of these meetings and interviews before I finally got the job. He goes, right on track. Yes, he's like, so I got a couple more years. And then I'll get hired by radio. It's like, radio is dead. Why would anyone want a job here?

is miserable right yeah it's it's an illness of radio guys that for some reason they think radio is the only thing i don't i don't get that at this point and uh because the the the show that aaron wants to do on radio doesn't exist anywhere no find a single market where someone's doing that no it can't exist and it's funny because erin's reached out to radio guys and the feedback he's getting from them is like do we all want to be doing what you're doing you just get to do a show and people give you money for it and you have freedom you don't have a boss and you're not in meetings talking about doom and gloom and cut cuts and in fact you hardly have to do a show right you can just complain about not getting a goal I bleed for every dollar I get I'd like some security well that's the thing because Aaron then

is just like I can't believe these guys you know I want to be doing what they're doing and then they're like jealous of what we're doing over here is like yeah no one who goes to a radio station every day sorry Iraq I know you're here in the chat right now whoa it's having a lot of fun I worked at the newspaper between 2001 and 2005 and that was when Craigslist came out and totally dismantled the classified section which is the largest revenue generator for any newspaper well it was

and then Craig's was just like oh you want to sell shit and get rid of stuff and wish people a happy birthday fucking here you can just do it for free over here fuck now have you been in talk since then to get back from the newspaper business definitely not I can't pine for something that doesn't exist

and that was the thing that on this little piggy they were discussing it's not that Aaron needs to get back on the radio is that he wants to have that life again the one where people aren't making fun of him or if they are he doesn't know it he can't tell he's just a one-way communication and he's just out there like blabbing away and then gets to go home and sleep easy i come home to april and she's happy but we know that he's always lying and we know that he's insane so maybe none of this happened oh that's very true yeah iraq like the fact that

aaron denies radios in a terrible state despite other people telling him that that's the part that's so enraging because he literally said that on the show we're playing the clips which is like, yeah, they keep telling me they have no money and there's no money and they're just cutting everything. He's like, he's acting like they're in a recession and they're going to bounce right back. I'm not buying it, though. They keep telling me there's no money, but I think they're trying to throw me off the scent. No, honestly, that's the way he's talking is if he doesn't believe. He's like, yeah, whatever.

He's talking about this guy that he's friends with who moved to Nashville and did a nationally syndicated country music show and he just got laid off. And it's just like, yeah, Aaron, are you not seeing what's happening here? Are you reading the trades? Are you paying any attention to this? It's going away. Well, speaking of radio shows and radio shows that I used to enjoy back in the 90s, the Don and Mike show. You ever listen to Don and Mike?

I know only through O'B. and Anthony. I know of them. Okay. So Don Geronimo and Mike O'Mara were hosts out of Washington, D.C., but they were syndicated all over the place, and they were syndicated to Rochester on our Hot Talk sports station. I'd listen to them in the afternoon. And we've played a bunch of Mike O'Mara over the years on this show,

because the Mike O'Mara show still exists. Well, I guess Doug McKenzie was checking that out, and he sent this in as the... Bridge of the week, cringe of the week. One of the characters from the Don of Mike show was this guy, Rob Spiwack. And Rob Spiwack is still on with Mike O'Mara, and there's a little bit of a snafu here

as Mike O'Mara's wife, very Howard Stern-S, Michael Mera's wife, is entering into the room where Mike is brought up. Broadcasting from his home. Oh, it was a truck. Okay. Excuse me.

Sorry about that. God bless you. I wanted to talk about, um, do you think, uh, do you think Carla could use those throw pillows to make a seat? It's funny when I say I wanted to talk about, but he still has to cram in the joke about the throw pillows. You see, and you yourself said it was funny. Here, come around here.

I'd rather not. Okay. All right. We'll grab a microphone then. Go ahead. Or a throw pillow. Yeah. Go ahead.

Sit down like, uh, you know, You know, what was the movie, The Love Guru? No, the Love Guru with Mike Myers. Are you? Oh, hi, Frida. Oh, hi, there, Carla, how are you? Frida. Really?

Wow. How is it old? Did the alcohol. Wow. My God. Let me explain what this snafu was. Frida was Don's wife, who was killed in a car accident in 2005, and she was very involved in the Donning Lake Show.

She called it all the time. Don would always talk to her. the phone yikesy on the show so dad and mike are not friends with each other anymore Mike's wife comes and he's like hey Freda yeah and they're both like what

oh hi Freda hi there Carla how are you Frida? Really wow did the alcohol morning wow my god my apology wow my apology

oh my god I did not mean that oh my yes you did Yes, you did. It's the same situation, different dude. Oh, stop it's not at all. I know. I'm kidding. Wow.

I'm just dwelling on it. Oh, man. He did not want to let that go, did it? Jesus. It's pretty pissed about that. In Ross Vuex, it's not like she was on video. He couldn't see her. So, you know, you see a face and he quickly.

Maybe it was Frida. There's a lot of Frida's out there. Maybe Mike's house is haunted by the ghost of Frida. I don't mean to get haunted. hung up on the wrong thing here, but who references the movie that ruined Mike Myers' career? He's like, you know, that's seen in The Love Guru? No one's seen the Love Guru.

I remember, famously, no one saw it. I don't go to the movies very often, but I remember when that movie was coming out, it was a trailer before a movie that I was watching. And everyone was here just went, oh, no one wanted to see that. I don't know if Mike Myers has worked since. I'm living that Netflix thing.

Yeah, I don't think so. I think he's got a guest spot on the 60th anniversary of us and all or something, and that's the other time we've seen him. Which is crazy to think that he's been involved in, what, three major movie franchises? Massive, yeah. Wayne's World, Austin, Hark, and Shrek, huge. He's one of the most famous movie stars in the world, but I don't think of him that way. I think of the love for me.

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off. Thank God. Because, you know, After that grueling summer, he had him going out that one time and getting sick. We'll hear about that. He could use a day off. Yes. So he had the week off.

But there's Andy Cohen, who has a channel Radio Andy, on Sirius XM, and he decided to go over to Howard's house and interview him for his show. It's the interview that's been 10 years in the making. All right. You ready? Of course. Howard. 10 years in the making?

Why that's how long Andy Cohen's been working for Sirius? Is this really, I know it's been 10 years in the make? Everyone's been like, when the fuck is Andy Cohen going to interview Howard Stern? I was wondering that because I know you hung on to Stern longer than anyone I know. So maybe, I was like, maybe Carl will give me some insight into people calling in like, when are you going to do Andy Cohen's show? Was that happening or no? No, Andy was on Howard's show a lot.

And no one cares. You know, the dude, like, he was a TV executive, I think at Bravo. and it just, like, did all this, like, gay programming stuff that nobody who was as the Howard Stern watches. I will say this, even if it wasn't 10 years in the making, listening to this, Andy Cohen is a way better interviewer than Stern. Yes. Like, it's not even close. This actually, I was fascinated by this. I actually reached out to Monique from Radio Gunk, we were chatting today about this.

I want to know what their coverage was. I guess they covered it earlier this week, because I think this was on Tuesday that this happened. and so let's find out why Howard actually agreed to let Andy come up to over to his house during his vacation and interview him because this is very out of character for Howard's turn. Howard, first of all, Andy. How annoyed are you that you said yes to this? Well, I'm going to be honest with you. I am only annoyed in that it was my week off, but Sirius XM said to me,

Yeah. If you do the interview with Andy, you can count it as a day off. Good. So I am owed a day off. Good. And that's why I'm here. And on those terms, you can come here every day and it. Fine.

Fine. Yeah, I don't care. Because if I can get a day off, that's great. Wow. Such passion. He's such an asshole. And what's crazy is, like, even if he's kidding, like, if he's trying to be cute there, that's actually crazier to me because it shows he's way more out of touch.

Thinking his audience would be like, well, you could use it, Howard. You're buying the candle at both. Both ends, my man. Take some rest for yourself. Yeah, all he has to do is sit there in his house, have this guy come over and talk to him for an hour, and it counts his entire episode of his show. This is not since Aaron Imholt getting two days of jail time

put towards his sentence for the hour and a half he spent in jail. Have I seen this ridiculous the credit he's getting from this? It also counts as therapy. Yeah. Did you watch this interview? I listened to it. You listen to it? Yeah, the therapy stuff I found fascinating.

There's actually a lot of this stuff I found very interesting. And it's weird because Howard acts like, why the fuck would anyone want to interview me? I am so excited to see you in person. Yes. First of all. This is exciting. And the thing is you were a shut-in before COVID. Did you prepare questions for this?

Oh, you did? Yeah, I did. Where's your little cards that you used? I didn't use cards. It's just on paper. Oh, you'd have a sheet of paper. Yeah, I just have notes. I didn't think you prepared.

I think like you rolled out of bed. No, no. And you just came here. For this, I'm not going to prepare. I don't know. Why is this so important? You know, I was thinking about this. Why is this so important to you to interview me?

Because I am on the air, like 100 hours a week. Yeah. For the last 50 years, there's nothing to ask me. So not true. Because Howard has never talked about the Pelican brief that leaked out. Yeah. You know, the fact that he hates his audience and he thinks they're all racist homophobes. But these are questions I would ask Howard Stewart.

Which comes up, by the way. It does. In this interview, yeah. It does, which is very interesting. But Howard's not an honest guy on the radio anymore, if he ever was. I used to think he was. He told me he was. I believed him.

That was the whole attraction. Right. Like, this guy's just letting it all out there. He's just letting it fly. And now he's so guarded. And you know so little about him and he lies about shit. They're just like, yeah, actually, if Andy Cohen's going to come and ask some real questions, I am interested in that.

And I was interested in this. Howard? Yeah. Andy actually, like, I just assumed it was like celebrity bullshit where he's like, I'm a Howard fan. Like, I got in this interview, I was like, oh, I think he actually is a fan because he asks about some things that real fans actually would want to know. And then when Howard tries to deflect or whatever, he's like, no, but seriously, what do

you think of Jackie or whatever? Yes, he does follow up with stuff. And you're right, Mike, when I first got a note from my buddy MLP who goes, oh, Carl, you know, Howard's out this week, but he did an interview with Andy Cohen. I was like, yeah, whatever. And then he followed up with me. He's just like, it's actually very interesting. I was okay.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, so that's why I grabbed this. I'm glad MLP gave me a heads up on this. Because I don't see other people talking about it. They did post this. I'm showing video right now. They did post this video about 24 hours ago to both the Series XM YouTube channel and the Radio Andy YouTube channel. And as of this morning when I was pulling this, it had 10,000 views.

So it's not catching on yet. Maybe it will. I don't know. That's why I was asking Monique if she'd covered this. I'm like, this kind of seems like, a big deal for Howard people because he doesn't get interviewed like this. I don't think there's a thirst. I think what Howard misunderstood when like all the media was covering like will he come back

or what's going to go. What's going to happen is like it would be a big story if Stern retires or gets fired or something like that. But like no one's really interested in his bullshit reasoning for not doing the same show anymore because he's not going to be honest about. Like you said when you heard it was Howard. Even when you sent it to me, I was like, I don't know if I really give a fuck. And then I listened to it.

And I was like, oh, he actually does a good job because it's the closest we've heard to, like, honest Howard. I think he's delusional in a lot of stuff. But it's him, I think being honest as best he can be at this point. And I think there is something about the rapport he has with Andy where he did try to brush things off. And he would do that with any other interview. Like Howard on the view, it's not something I'm interested in watching. Right. Yeah, no, it's just Daniel Carver used the N-word.

And they don't question them on at all. questions them yeah yeah um so it was also you know howard tries to take over the interview in the beginning there is he just oh would you write questions you know how we're going to try to and then fortunately he relaxed and realizes that okay this guy's going to ask me questions and i'm just here to answer them not to take over the interview we see this all the time with stuttering john he goes on other people's shows and he wants to take it over and like be the host of the show that's not the role here for you i know you host a show you're good at it uh not i'm not talking I thought of it. Great. That was funny. Great. But the point is here is that this is Andy

show and you're just going to answer questions. And I thought this was a great way to start the conversation good on Andy. Yeah. But I am a little concerned that you're bordering on Howard Hughes. So is my wife. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not fun. Did you hear about that? Yes. She says I'm not fun. I'm not. I'm going to be honest with you. COVID was the greatest thing that ever happened to me personally. Amazing. It really, it really was a game changer. Really the world.

It was something that I just wish would happen every four years or so. So much has been better. Yeah. Why can't it be like the Olympics? It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me personally. Amazing. It really, it really was. It was a game changer for me.

Yeah. This is because Howard is agoraphobic. He's a germaphobe. And this was perfect for him. nobody leave the house and wear a mask and don't breathe on people and don't touch anything he's great

stay the fuck away from me yep this is perfect and also that he's wealthy like he talks about not relating to his audience a poor germaphobe was probably miserable during COVID oh I talked to people at my workplace at the time

who were like yeah this is this is great people should just stay home like yeah but you want to be able to go to the grocery store right you realize that not everyone's staying home but lets that happen people have to deliver food places like people are door dashing lunch to your house they don't get to stay home okay calm down but this is the problem with Howard is that he loved this and this is what why I stopped

listening to him is because he was so excited about this happening and you would think that this would be the place for a therapist to step in and explain to him that this is not healthy that this is not good and Howard goes to therapy and did not learn that lesson in fact five years later is going, that's the greatest thing that ever happened to be. I loved it. He pays extra to not hear that advice. I think you're right. And we're going to get into why he loves his therapist so much, which I found fascinating.

But first, Andy's over at his house right now. And Howard does not have a lot of people over to the house because of the germs. People are bags of germs. Okay. I don't need them. In fact, if you notice, I have you as far away from me as possible because you are such a social butterfly. Oh, yeah.

That I'm sure right now, they're on. There's all kind of virus all over you. I got my children's schools on me. I got the gays on me. I mean, you've got everyone on you. Yes, I do. Yeah. So you notice, I didn't shake your hand when you came in.

That's fine. I soaked and come. I wouldn't shake it either. I know how you people are. So is Howard worse than Howie Mandel at this point? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, because they were on. Obviously, the Americans got talent together.

And Howie Mandel is famously a germaphobe to the point where it cripples him in certain situations. But he still has had an amazing career in show business and does things and figures it out. Whereas Howard is literally to the point where he's just like, I don't leave my house. People are gross. Well, Howard, Howie Mandel has done this weird thing where he's worked on his issue and he's gotten better. Right. Like he's talked about having an issue and how he knows he's the problem and he has to deal with it. It's not other people's issues where Howard is actually regressed.

and gotten much worse over time. That's a great point. I remember Adam Crowell telling the story about, because he's pretty close with Howie, and there was like a bowl of popcorn, and people were just putting their hands in it and eating it, and Howie came over and put his hand in it and grabbed some popcorn. And Adam goes, wait a second, aren't you afraid of germs?

He goes, no, no, Adam, I'm crazy. Howie Van Tell recognized that it doesn't make any sense. He would grab popcorn out of a bowl where everyone's hands are going into, but then won't shake anyone's hand. He's just like, yeah, no, I'm crazy. He recognized that. It's his issue. He's not in his 60s getting worse and worse.

Right. So that leads into questions about therapy. And Howard says he still goes twice a week. He used to be four times a week. And we find out why Howard loves therapy so much. And he gave me the name of the therapist that he thought would be good with me. And I went to see him, I don't know how many years ago, 30 years ago, went to see the guy. And I didn't know what to make of it.

I never had had someone pay attention to me in that way. and I get emotional thinking about it. He's son of a bitch, because I get really emotional thinking about it. I don't think this is what therapy is supposed to do. Howard goes, I mean, this is very odd. He's like, this person listened to me in a different way than people listen to me.

So, well, that's what you're paying for her. Yeah, that's the job. Pay him to listen to you. And he goes out and explains, he goes, the first time I sat in this guy's office, I started doing my bit with my parents, and he's got the megaphone out, and he's doing his mom.

and he's doing his dad Don't be stupid You moron and blah And he goes And this therapist He didn't laugh He's like Oh this is bad

You know And it was the first time I was doing that bit And people weren't laughing along It's like If he laughed I don't think that That would have been very professional

No But that to me was actually The most Fascinating part And it actually almost Made me feel bad For Howard Because I think he's been

Like brainwashed Like this therapist Has kind of done him A disservice Because like What Howard did is inspire us all to laugh at our pain. I'm not saying literally each and every one of us,

but I'm saying that's what Howard was praised for. It was like these things that we weren't supposed to joke about or were shamed before. Like, you could laugh at those things. And what this therapist did to Howard, at least according to Howard, is be like, why are you being so cavalier about this?

Why are you laughing about it? And Howard's like, oh, oh, I guess I'm not supposed to laugh at that stuff. And he became worse. Something Howard was actually very liberated and free and became a source of shame because of this therapist. It's backwards. Yeah, that's also a really good point.

Howard talks about in this interview, he's talked about on his radio show forever, growing up in a black neighborhood and getting beat up by the black kids at school and not fitting in. He was working on a cartoon that was in the process, I think it got pretty far along. There was going to be Howard's high school years that was just about him getting beat up by the black kids in school. and that's him dealing with this trauma in the right way like you're saying mike like all right it happened it wasn't great i was depressed it led me to drug use whatever howard has said about this but it's made me the man i am today and what are you going to do i can't change the past i can you know make light of it and try to appreciate it and he would never think about doing something like that now no and that's my issue with howard defenders is people are always like oh well what's he supposed to be making like crazy

racial jokes in his 70? No, he doesn't have to do that. He doesn't have to be the exact same guy. But he can realize that, like, that was a source of trauma or pain for him, and he used humor as a man. And now he's kind of gotten over that, so he's moved on to making fun of other things. You can still be funny

and not have to make, like, racial humor that wouldn't be accepted now or whatever the fuck. Like, you can move the goalposts a little bit without spitting on who you were. Yeah, but I have a guy from the KKK on every once in a while, though, right? Once a while. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah. But Daniel Carver ride the Scipient.

Come on. Just this one time. Well, that's actually a good point because, like, his thing was, oh, well, I had Daniel Carver on to expose that type of racism. And, like, we laughed at that. Yeah. Why don't you tell you that's what you were doing when you were talking about your parents and stuff too? Right. That's also Jerry Springer's defense.

And I don't think it's wrong. It's like, yeah, we want to see these lunatics. No. And I think what Howard feels guilty about is that there's a lot of people that didn't. get that. Right. And they're, like, you know, there's people that use the Howard Stern model that actually are racist or homophobic or whatever. Like, there's people that latched onto that with, with less than great intentions. I don't think that's Howard's fault. Like, if you misunderstand what someone is doing, that's not your fault. But I think Howard feels like a tremendous amount of guilt for that. And that's why he shits on his audience now. Howard never had Daniel Carver on and went, this guy's making some good points. You know, last time he was on, I thought it was a little crazy. But now, yeah, you know, Mexicans are subhuman. That's a pretty good point, Daniel. Yeah.

All right, so let's find out more about what he learned from his therapist or from therapy in general. But it took a lot of years of therapy and a lot of years I was angry. I didn't know I was angry, but I didn't know what I was angry at. So this I found fascinating. And Mike, you might have more experience with this than I do because I've never been in therapy, but it sounds like his therapy taught him to need therapy. It showed me that I'm actually an angry guy. So I personally am a very happy and lucky guy.

Now, there's probably a lot of reasons why I shouldn't be. There's probably a lot of horrible things going on that I should be dwelling on and upset about and whatever. I don't need a therapist to tell me, like, Carol, I don't know why you're in a good mood today. You really shouldn't be. Like, that sounds awful. Yeah. That's what Howard's describing right now. Yeah, that's pretty bad because what you're supposed to do in therapy is deal with the issues and realize why you feel that way and turn them into kind of a positive.

You know, like you can learn and to handle those emotions. Howard has done the opposite where everything bad that's ever happened. to him. He thinks like, oh, I'm not supposed to joke about that. I'm supposed to feel shame for that. My father didn't love me. And so instead of joking about that, I have to feel guilty about it. It's this weird regression. He has the worst fucking therapist based on how Howard has described him. And based on his attitude and what he talks about is interviews with how he projects it on to his guests. Yeah. It tells Gene Simmons he should be depressed. Yeah. I'm doing pretty well, Howard.

So the therapy talk, I found interesting for all of those reasons. And Andy Cohen does a fantastic job of steering the ship on this one. And he transitions away from therapy talk brilliantly. A possible topic for your therapist is how gay your show has evolved over the years. You all now are just dancing. around your homosexuality. I mean, not even dancing. And I think it's great.

You know, so much of locker room humor. Yes. Is really a bunch of guys sitting around, towel snapping, guys sitting, and it's very gay. Yeah. Like, being a bro is very gay. It's not. I mean, I don't think Howard's been in the locker room since he was 12. Oh, you don't get gay with your bros.

I'm thinking of Jim Norton's stand-up last night. You might not be gay, but you're not straight. So this whole thing where Howard thinks like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is what guys do. This is just like how they bought. This is by, like, touching each other's peckards and stuff. It's not true, Howard. You don't know anything that you're talking about. I found the gay discussion really interesting, too.

Do you have any more on that? I do. I don't want to step on it. Yeah, yeah. This I thought, you know, going back to the Pelican brief where Howard, what was that, 2012? I think 2013, maybe, yeah. So, 2013, Howard has an all-staff meeting, and he stands up at the podium in front of everyone and disavows his fans and says, we need to teach these people that it's not okay to be a homophore. And we hear this again.

Normalizing gay people and gay activities and making people who are scared of homosexuals and scared of that they're going to become homosexuals. If we can normalize that, there is nothing worse in my mind than being born gay and having to deal with the shit that the heterosexual world hands you. And I somehow imagine that if I'm on the radio talking about like with Chris Wilding about his boyfriend and what they do with each other and I don't go, you know what, that's great. More women for me. You guys do whatever you want. I'm not threatened by you guys. Let's talk about it more. What do you?

You shave your balls. You stick this in your ass. who fucking cares and I believe the people that I speak to need to hear that that right there I thought was one of the most important things I've heard Howard say I was shocked when I heard it only because I think it really outlines how out of touch he is not just with his audience but with society now yes because is there anything in society more accepted right now than being classically gay like if you're just a A meat and potatoes gay guy.

Is there anyone pushing back on that in society right now? Even like the hard right, they're not talking about gay marriage anymore. Like, that's all gone. That stigma is dead. It doesn't exist. Yes. It certainly exists. Nowhere where I go.

Not in any social circle I'm in, not in any area. And not in popular society. Right. Not anywhere I travel to. Like, we go to Ferndale every year for our Detroit show. It is the gayest community. It's very progressive. And it's fucking awesome.

Yeah. We love going there. It's like one of the greatest places. If there was an episode of some... To just do it kind of sound. Sorry, Mike. If there was an episode of some CBS sitcom right now about, like, repealing gay marriage or something,

it would be taken off the air. Like, they wouldn't... It wouldn't even... Because it doesn't come up in society. We've moved on to the trans people. We're focused on other things. But they're not crazy. What Howard said at the end there is so telling because he said,

they need to hear it. He needs to train these people to not be... homophobic, which should never be his job. I can't believe he takes himself so seriously that now he feels like he used to have lesbians on his show because it's titillating. Guys are into lesbians. Like, oh wow. But Howard

really respected. They treated them with a lot of class and dignity, as I recall. Not even close, Mike. He exploited them and talked about their sex lives and detail and wanted to get all the minutia of how they jerk each other off and shit. And we loved it. I loved it. I wanted to hear lesbians. I assume they're

hot because I listen on the radio. They weren't, but whatnot. And another way Howard is out of touch, he's mischaracterizing what he did, because he did have a hand in like normalizing, like I said, not just gay people, but like any source of shame for anyone, Howard was an outlet that was normalized that. You could make fun of it and talk about it openly. And I think that does help a lot of people. What Howard is misunderstanding is even in the 90s or when Howard was at his peak, whenever that was there wasn't some true homophobe sitting listening to howard going you know what i was wrong

yep these pieces he suck dick fellas these people are all right like if you're really homophobic howard stern's not changing your mind on that and that's what he's misunderstanding and let's not pretend that robin wasn't a prop of course and i'm sure you know that relationship has evolved over the years but having a black newswoman on was perfect for Howard to be able to be as racially insensitive as he wanted to be as long as she's giggling along. He did give the best description

I've ever heard of Robin in this interview also. I don't know if you caught it. Where he goes, he goes, Robin is my audience. And I was like, oh, that's why she's there. If he's making her laugh, then he's successful. Yep, he literally did say. He's like, I can't see my audience. So Robin's my audience.

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, that made so much sense to me. That was interesting. So I thought that whole conversation about how, you know, Cocktober and how gay his show has gotten. Howard's acting like he's trying to teach the homophobes a lesson and to train them to not be homophobic. I don't like it, but I can't change the channel. Damn it. I'm not to change my ways.

Anyone. And listen, I'm not homophobic, but I also don't want to hear Richard and Sale touch their dicks together. It doesn't appeal to me, you know? It does make you more accepting of gay marriage, though, when they do it, right? No, not at all. I'm fine with it. I don't have an issue in 2025. So stupid.

So, yeah, he's acting like, and I think people reap this on Howard and he accepts it. Which is like, wow, you're so progressive. You were in the first ones to embrace the LGBT community. He just had lesbians on. And would love talking to gay guys too because he thought it was hilarious. Oh, yeah. He thought gay sex was funny. He might have been right.

So then Andy brings up. And again, I was proud of Andy to say, like, Howard, you know, so much of your show used to be about you versus. your enemies, whether it was the FCC or Rosie O'Donnell or, you know, Chevy Chase, you know, all the people that he used to rail against and there'd be an ongoing feuds and sagas. He goes, you really don't have enemies anymore, except for maybe Oprah. And Howard goes, oh, no, no, no, I love Oprah. Of course. And it's like, really?

I thought there was like one person I could bring up these still. And it was weird because Howard said, I didn't have the clip that I thought it was kind of a boring conversation, but he goes, he thinks it's funny how Oprah for. wants her wealth. Yeah. He teeter on saying he thought it was bad, but then he kind of strutted away from it. Yeah, yeah, he tried to pretend like, isn't that interesting? She, like, shows out she's a great thing, actually.

And it was, it was an odd conversation because as Howard's going, you know, there's a lot of people who are destitute or can't make ends meet, and he's going on and on about why it's not okay to show off your wealth, we're watching him in this state of the art studio with guitars hanging up behind him that he built into his mansion. he has another one in his other mansion. And he's talking about how COVID was a good thing. Just by itself tells you you're well off. He's so out of touch of this stuff.

And by the way, I don't give a fuck. I'm happy the Howard's rich. I'm happy that Oprah's rich. They deserve it. They earned it. It's fine. It's just weird that that's the thing that Howard's keying in on with another uber wealthy celebrity.

And another example of him being out of touch or maybe he's aware of it. And if he is, I almost give him credit. But he was basically one sentence away from being like, the only people I like more than an Oprah or Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen. Like, you know what I mean? Like he's been so critical of all these people forever, and he kind of just ignores it until, like, until he has to dance around it when Andy Cohen asks him about it or something. Yeah, no, he's totally Hollywood Howie at this point.

And so again, another fantastic question from Andy Cohen. What is the golden era of the Howard Stern Show? Is there an era of the Howard Stern show that you can objectively look back on and say this, that was the golden era of this show? No. No, I don't look at it that way. The show has to constantly change and evolve. At my age now, it can't be what I did when I was 20. Right.

It can't be when I was 30. The times were different. The norms were different. Yeah, everyone agrees with that. Everyone knows the show has changed. That's not the question. That wasn't the question. He's completely deflected from the question.

Yeah. Andy does say on this a little bit, which is good. But the whole idea is just like, what was the best era of your show? And to go, oh, it just keeps evolving. Yeah, yeah. It's got much worse. It would show that there's a human being in there. If you could at least go, like, well, obviously we're most popular in the 90s.

Or like, I had the most fun when already was here. Whatever it would be, whatever his answer is. Yeah. If he had some kind of answer, that doesn't mean he has to shit on what he's doing now. But like, if there was an answer, even if he said, honestly, like, the last 10 years, I'm the realest me there's ever been. I'd be stunned by it, but it would be an answer.

But this is just bullshit what he's saying, because, like, a guy is opinionated on Stern, who specifically has opinions on the Howard Stern show. He's talked about how this is the best show. No one's doing what he's doing. He's talking about this for 50 years. You don't have an era you think you were at the best.

That's crazy. And like you said, he could even lie about it. At least it would be an answer. Like, Opie has this series he's been doing my best days on radio and it's all from when he was doing the afternoon slot with Carl Louise and Vic Henley and I was going to say it must be a lot of

Patrice on there. No, Patrice is gone somehow. That's a shame. Yeah. And so Opie's pretending that him after the Opie and Anthony show were his best days on the radio. Now, it's obviously a lie and he knows it but he's trying to build up this

thing that he did that people didn't really pay attention to. So Howard easily could say, no, these last 10 years have been great. but I would opine and I think that no one would blame him like sure you don't want to you know as far as Jackie goes he had a huge role on the show for a very long time

and Billy West to a lesser extent but if Howard came out and said you know what those years leading up to the satellite run where we took this company that had 200,000 subscribers and we built this into this huge company with 30 million subscribers and it's really because I made that decision

to move from terrestrial radio something everyone thought I was crazy for subscription model for radio what are you talking about this is it's a free medium and I took this and I built it and I have succeeded in it and by the way those were the best years in my opinion of the Howard Stern show those years leading up to him going to satellite

and then him on satellite those were already peak years that's where all the comedians were coming on the show and they were doing the roasts and it was really just the best time but that would be such a better answer especially because he's still on serious any fans checking this out you know want to hear that it's like wanting to hear a band's song right you'll hear a band say oh actually this album's our favorite and you're like that's not your best album man but whatever like i wanted that what they

expect the question right and say something about artie yes to what chris is saying at least an acknowledgement of you know most people break the show down into the jacky era and the arty era to be honest i don't look at it that way like just acknowledge that the fans exist but he doesn't I don't, he's not willing to admit who his audience is unless he's calling them homophobes. He literally doesn't want those fans to listen to him anymore. No. We learned that at the Pelican brief. And I don't think his current fans, the soccer moms or AGT fans that listen to him now or whoever's still listening, I really don't think he wants them to look like, well, who's already lying?

Yeah, don't look into that. Right, right, right. He wants them to look that up. All right, so he actually admits what ruined his show in this clip. But when I went into therapy, I started to examine my life, and there were things I didn't like about the show, and I didn't like about me, and it was a long haul. So this is literally his therapist convincing him that what he was doing on his show wasn't good or wasn't what he should have been doing. This reminds me, again, of Opie, the Opie Parole, where the Philly crew, his in-laws started asking questions about what the Opie and Anthony show was up to. What's Anthony talking about with Obama?

We don't really like what he's saying over there, and so then Opie had to be pissed at that, or, pissed in some of Norton's characters, like Uncle Paul and stuff, like, oh, yeah, because the Philly crew didn't like it. And I think Howard ran into the same thing, where the therapist, you know, he's talking about how, like we were saying earlier, maybe making light of tragic events

or things that are traumatic, and the therapist is going, and that's not how you deal with this kind of thing. Yeah, and I'll say this, too, like, to defend the therapist a little bit. I think that's pretty natural to get into your 60s and 70s and look back at all the crazy shit Howard was doing and go, ah, jeez, what was I doing?

You know, like, there are things I tweeted two days ago where I'm like, I wouldn't have tweeted. Like, it wasn't funny or whatever the fuck, you know? Like, that's pretty natural to be like, I wouldn't do that now or whatever. The progress that Howard has had is completely unnatural, where he went from crazy, shock, jock, do whatever you want, say whatever you want to, I've never done any of that. Yeah. You know what I mean? If he had a natural conversation on the air and said, hey, like, we're calling Gary the retard, Gary the Conqueror. now. It might seem weird to some of you guys. I've looked at like the hardship, the retarded

people deal with, or mentally challenged people deal with it. I'm not the guy to do it, but you see the point I'm making. If it was a natural progression of any kind, no one would blame Howard. Right. Right. The thing is, it was just one day, it all stopped and it changed. And the Pelican brief is kind of the marker of that. Yeah, because all the guests changed. And all of a sudden, It's not Gilbert Godfrey coming in, and it's just A-list celebrities, and most of them women and gay men. And you're like, oh, okay. So this is a completely different show for a completely different audience. Howard goes on to say that he was a narcissist.

He recognized that he was a narcissist. And he said, you know, they say that therapy can't fix narcissism. But for me, again, this is something a narcissist would say. I was able to fix my narcissism using therapy. Oh, nice. Which is a crazy thing to say. I win. Because I've heard, as I've been looking more into narcissism and narcissism personality disorder, is that narcissists thrive in therapy.

Because they know what to say. Yes. They know how to manipulate. And they know how to make it seem like they're making progress and they're doing great. And they come out of therapy going, yeah, I'm fucking killing it. And so for Howard to say that I was a narcissist, but I'm cured of that now, was surprised. It's like an addict. It's like an addict saying that.

It's like, oh, I'm not an alcoholic anymore. It's the reason they said, no, you're always an addict, but you're dealing with it. I'm California sober, Mike. Leave me alone. Right. All right. So then good question about Jackie Marling comes up. Yeah.

Do you regret the way everything went down with Jackie? No. Not at all. I mean, I beg the guy. I said, dude, you got the best job you've ever going to. to get this is it but uh you know he i guess he felt otherwise no i don't regret a thing about it was that the last time you spoke to him no i gave jacky a job here it's serious he he wanted a job and he said to me he took me out to dinner well actually i paid but um okay

stuttering job that that clip was really interesting to me because often i say especially because i didn't grow up listening to howard stern so like going back later i'm like was fake. Like I have this image, like Howard had writers, and he was faking this personality. I'm kind of of the theory that he was never that guy. And then I hear that clip where he's giving all these fake answers. And then Andy Cohen goes, what do you think of Jackie Marling? Did you handle that wrong? He goes, no. And I'm like, oh, that is the real guy. Like, he's in there to immediately kind of like bash Jackie a little bit. Seemed like that was a real thing to me. And he's, he's beaten that down with most people, but he has glimpses of it, like, with Jackie's like, I didn't,

like, if he really did work on himself, he would go, you know, maybe, maybe I did handle Jackie wrong, but that doesn't exist in there. That is what I picked up on, too. He goes, it was all Jackie's fault. It was 100% Jackie's fault. That doesn't mean you don't have regrets about what you did or what was said or how any of that was handled. Right. If he's this enlightened guy, he would go, you know, maybe I put too much pressure on Jackie and we made fun of his deal on the air, and maybe that was a large part of it. He felt this insecurity. Like, if he was a guy who worked on himself,

those would be the things he thought of. Right. But he's not this enlightened guy. He's still the bitter old angry fuck we loved at one time. Right. Yes. That was very telling. No regrets about Jackie. And then Andy shows he's maybe not such a super fan. Is that the last time he ever talked to him? Jackie's been on the show since then. He had Jackie's joke

hunt. Yeah, that was not. I was surprised. I was surprised by that. There is a question that comes up about Artie, the last time, how we're talked to Artie. I believe Howard's answered this before. It was when Robin was hospitalized. They just happened to both show up at the same time to visit Robin. And Artie's told this story too, where it was just like old times. They're just immediately joking and Robin's there and the three of them are just busting balls and sounded like they all got along really well.

And that was really all that was talked about with Artie. His name was brought up a couple times. I was reading through the comment section on YouTube and I was getting very excited because the first like four or five comments are all like, oh, I can't believe Andy brought up Artie. This was great. Finally, Howard has to address Artie. And then I watched the whole thing. I went, did I miss it? And I went to the audio from Sirius. And I started scrubbing through that because I'm like, did they edit it out of the YouTube version? So I started looking for Artie and that. There really wasn't Artie talk at all. It was exactly that. He said, he goes, you know, I hope he's doing all right now or whatever. But there was no real like in-depth conversation. Why it wasn't

already allowed on the show anymore or anything like that? There's nothing. And I think he's address that because you know obviously now artie's completely out of public life but for a while there already wanted to go back on the show and when he's doing his podcast he would bring it up and want to go back on the show and howard's take and his take at the time i don't believe this is that this show is bad for artie it leads him to make bad decisions and i just don't want to do anything to be detrimental to his health by having him come back on the show which is all bullshit you know Howard was hurt by the fact that, and Artie was a horrible employee.

Artie didn't do some of any favorites. Artie was a terrible employee, and I do believe that Howard probably, like there were a lot of people saying like Howard should feel guilty or whatever. I'm sure on some level Howard did think like, this job is not, we're giving a drug addict $800,000 a year, whatever the fuck.

Like his lifestyle is crazy and we're asking him to come in early in the morning. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure there's some level where he thought that that isn't good for him. But again, It doesn't really address Artie in any honest way that a guy who was in touch with his audience would know that we all want to hear about. Yeah, why does he cut Artie out of clips when they're showing classic Norm MacDonald's bits and Artie was right there, like, cutting out his voice. It's more than just, like, not addressing it or anything like that.

The only time that Artie was brought up was when Sower Shoes was doing his Rty impression. And Sauer Shoes would call him do a perfect Rite, and they would bust. chops a little bit with that and then that went away because I'm pretty sure you got to talking to Gary Delabonte probably just like yeah that's not do that impression anymore right right to say like I know I said Andy Cohen good job he did as good a job as like Andy Cohen is going to do he's not a super he's not Monique from radio gunk right I mean like we're not going to get the exact interview we wanted but like a real fan of the Howard Stern show would have got yeah what a what's already up to right now no one hears from him he talked a lot of but you know what I mean like they

would ask things about, like, what Artie said about the show. To the discussion we were just having a moment ago where I think Howard feels some guilt about what happened with Artie, the question I'd love to ask is, you know, do you regret micing Artie when he was snoring on the show? He would come in after doing heroin all night and just pass out and they would turn that into a bit. And people used to call Howard out for him. I didn't know he's on drugs.

I'm the last to know about any of this shit. Whoa. What? The stuttering John defense. Yeah, right. You didn't know Artie Leg was on drugs when he was passed out in the studio and then and then he'd get up and be in a manic rage and want to fight and sell Governor Alley. You know, it's like...

Because a guy in intensive therapy who's reflected on his life and reflected on his decisions would have an interesting answer for that. Or at least you would... Right. You would think, yes. And you'd be ready for an... To have an answer like that. Yeah.

I think there were times in this interview and we'll get into it where how we're definitely does change the subject and lets Andy know we're not talking about that. But that very first thing that happened that we played where he goes, what, do you write down questions for this? I think there was a second where Howard's like, oh, shit. That's how it sounded to me. Right?

Like, oh, I'm about to answer actual questions. He's prepared for this? Damn it. I thought this was just going to be a day off. Can I get two days off? Yeah, right. This is going to be a lot. All right.

So this is a very funny question from Andy Cohen because it seems that Howard is miserable doing his show. In what ways is doing this show still a positive experience for you? Well, or fun for you. I guess he could say, I've done everything. What's left to do. But you know, there's always interesting people to talk to.

Every day there's something in the news. I still like having an audience. I don't know what it would be like for me not to have that rush of like, hey, I'm sitting in the house. I've got some shit to say I got an idea for something really funny you know I kind of need to get on the microphone yeah I thought that was very telling

it basically like why are you still doing this you seem like you're miserable and Howard's just like yeah you know you might think I've already done everything I can do and there's really no reason for me to be doing a show anymore yeah it's such an interesting question from Andy Cohn who's obviously a friend of Howard's because it's like it is as if to say like hey based on all the conversations you and I have had

we both know you don't like doing this anymore Why are you still doing it? You know, like it's kind of an acknowledgement of that. And Howard's response, and this is something that I think we've all talked about, Howard needs an audience, is why he won't retire. I can't see him maybe his health goes at some point, and he needs to retire for that reason. But he needs to be talking to people.

And so it's crazy to me that he's alienated his audience and shrunk it so much if this is the only reason why he's getting out of bed in the morning. Well, I get to the attitude. touch thing. I don't think he has any fucking idea. I always go back to the clip you guys played. Remember when they did the thing with Robert Smigel and the clip went viral and they had the Instagram comments on and Howard was like, what the fuck is this? It seemed like Howard, that was the first time Howard was ever reading anyone say

like, oh, the show's gone downhill. Yes. It seems like Howard was so isolated that that was like jarring to him. He's like, whoa, these people think I've fucking fallen off or something. It was as if he doesn't know that. So maybe he has just so many yes men around him. Like I don't imagine Gary is bringing up a negative like the radio gunked him or anything like that.

Right. He's in a bubble for sure. Even when Fred would read email and feedback from the listeners, it was always just like, oh my gosh, everyone loved your AI bit. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think he hears it anymore. I think he's so out of touch that he doesn't even know the complaints people

have about the show. Well, one thing he's not out of touch about because he reads about it and he sees it on social media is that podcasting has become very popular and there's a lot of podcasters who have more listeners than Howard does and boy does that grind his gears you know what I mean you are so annoyed by the podcasters well of course yeah who wouldn't be guys like you now are doing radio and it's annoying as fuck because you know this is old man so nasty yeah of course it is well I'm a narcissist I told you that No, but in all seriousness, at least you understand that you're being an asshole. Yes.

So Howard will address that he's a narcissist and then act like he's joking about it. But it very is, it very much is that reason why he hates that other people have an audience. Everyone should be listening to me. He said it multiple times when his ratings were the best, one of every four cars on Long Island was tuned in to Howard Stern. And his thought was, why aren't the other three listening to me? Yeah. And I don't even really understand. understand that dig at Andy like say what you want about Andy Cohen he's a professional

broadgate you don't look at Andy Cohen and go like oh he was hired by a corporation to broadcast like he's kind of a polished broad I'm not saying it's radio I would want to listen to but he's not Ari Sheffier you know guys he's fought with in the past about this Howard can't compete anymore and he recognizes that so he doesn't want there to be a lot of options out there that's really what it comes down to yeah he doesn't like that Joe Rogan's a much better interviewer than he is and has more interesting conversations with more interesting people, not just A-list celebrities who talk through their publicist on a radio show. The other thing that Andy brought up that I was very proud of him for is the news segment

going away. I think we could all agree. Now, Mike, you didn't listen, but Chris and I did. And we looked forward to the news. That was the last segment of the show every morning. And it would be Robin's news. And the Robin music would come on. and it's like, great, we're going to do Robin's news.

And sometimes... I know it was a really innovative thing because they would blow through breaks sometime. Like, people would, like, look forward to it. It was a big deal if, you know, Gilbert hung around for the news or whatever. Right. As I was just going to say, they would bring in comedians specifically for, like, Robert Smigel would... Not Robert Smigel. The other Robert, I'm not going to remember his name.

Robert Schimel. Thank you. You know, he would be on... I remember Dave Attell would come on. Mitch Hedberg, you'd have these guys sitting in. and this was the most like opi and anthony element of the show where it's artie and his comedian buddies busting chops or making fun of the news stories and they would play interviews with a list actors who are blowing smoke up the director's ass and their co-stars ass and they'd all be goofing on them and i think that's one of the reasons why this went away because he's hollywood howie now right no more just hanging yes so he needs to control that a little bit more but that was really one of the best segments everyone looked forward to it and And so Andy asked them about it. I say this every time I'm on the show and you haven't given me an answer.

Why did you get rid of the news? Well, we got rid of the news because we went to a three-hour format. Okay. And we... It took too long? Well, you know what it would be? At the end of the three hours, we would sort of do this block of news. Yes, it could be 15 minutes.

It could be an hour. So, Robin and I were talking and I said, you know, why don't we just talk about it? talk about what we want in the body of the show so that at the end of the show, when I'm fizzled out and pass that in the chair, why are we waiting to the end of the show? Why not just talk about

whatever topics in the news we want to talk about and weave it into the body of the show? Which is what we do. That's not true. That's always what they did. There was never a time where a massive news story, Howard would be like, wait, we have to hold on to Robin's News to talk about that.

Right, the news would actually be more lighter things. It'd be a lot of entertainment news. And, you know, things like that, it wouldn't be, you know, if 9-11 happens or, yeah, they're not holding off. Well, it's not 9 o'clock yet. Right. Yeah. So I don't think Howard was ready for that question. That was not a satisfying answer. Well, you know, I talked to Rob and we decided we'll just move the news to throughout the show. And it's a shorter show anyway. So we're not doing the new segment. And so, Andy, I appreciate this. Does follow up. has a follow-up question.

This is where Howard shuts it down. But the whole show is the news. Well, we didn't really get rid of anything. But it's a perception. I feel like there was a topicality about... Andy. Yeah.

I've been doing this for, what, almost 50 years. Yeah. Trust that I know what I'm doing. All right. Well, I've been listening for a long time. Yeah, but I did the right thing. Giving you some feedback. Wow.

That's old Howard. That's what I'm saying. That guy is in there. That's old Howard. But that's how you know that Howard didn't have a good answer for that. When Andy's ready to follow up with another question about it and Howard goes, hey, you just got to trust me, I know

what I'm doing. And his tone before Andy's second question was, how could you not know this? And this should be the end of the question because it's so obvious that we weave the news into the body of the show. Yeah, he did not want to discuss it any further. Right. It tells you how delicate he is in dealing with criticism.

Like, this is not a hard-hitting. Andy didn't pull up the blackface tape and go, how do you respond to this? Right. He just said, how come you don't do the news with Robin anymore? And Howard gets agitated and can't answer it. And I wonder if it does have something to do with Robin's health. You know, Robin's getting up there in age herself.

And maybe she's the one that went to Howard. He's protecting her. Maybe she's just like, I can't, you know, it's too much for me to be reading all these news stories at the end of the show. It's very possible. But that was why. That was, yeah, right. And get someone who can do it. So then, again, I appreciate the question.

here from Andy Cohen. He talks about how political Howard got leading up to this most recent election. And Howard was outspoken about if you like Trump, don't listen to me. If you're going to vote for Trump, don't listen to me. Everyone on the staff had to say that they were voting for Biden or then Kamala. And I remember Ron the limel driver wouldn't answer the question. Who are you voting for? I don't want to say. You know? So it got very, very political. and the question is if he regrets that at all. But please listen to me and take what I'm saying seriously. And they didn't.

You know, I mean, maybe my audience did. But people, they're like locked in, man. I don't think there's anything you could say or do to change their opinion. Right. It's weird. But whatever, you know. Do you regret it? You know, it's a very weird thing.

I like that Howard goes, you know, I'm trying to, convince people to vote for, you know, he had Kamel on the show. He had Joe Biden on the show as guests. He was trying to convince people to vote for them. And then Howard goes, these idiots won't change their mind. Yeah. Howard, you're the same way. You also feel so. Oh, that's true too. Yeah. Yeah, like he was so against Trump in the first term and then leading up to the second term of Trump. And it's just like, no one could tell him to think about things in a different way at all. Because he thinks he's smart and he's talking to morons. And he's like, one of these morons, to a smart guy. But the other thing that's interesting about that is you hear

the reason one is fading and one is ascending because like people have tried to put this on Joe Rogan like, oh, Joe Rogan just wants you to believe whatever he thinks. Joe Rogan doesn't want you to wear masks or want you to get the vaccine or wants you to vote for Trump or all these things that people are putting on Joe Rogan. And if you listen to Rogan, he'll be like, I'm a comedian pothead that announces M.M. don't listen to me for your medical stuff. Yep. But if you listen to Howard, who doesn't have that clout, like people aren't saying, oh, Howard's just trying to convince you of everything. He's like, why aren't these people

doing exactly what I say? That's a great point. Howard is trying to convince people to do what he says. And that's not how you convince people. Right. By just being genuine and understanding, like the Ivermectin thing with Joe Rogan. He was correct. Well, not only that, but he literally came on a show. He just goes, this is what my doctor told me to do. Right. Right. And I got better in two and a half days. And now I'm good. And now I'm doing the show again. And CNN and everyone else went out and just said, Joe Rogan's

giving you medical advice. And he's like, I never gave anyone medical advice. He would have Dr. Gupta on to debate it with them. Because he's just like, I never gave anyone to medical advice. But my doctor told me to do. I'm just reporting the facts. Joe Roggan didn't get on and go, why aren't you guys voting for Trump? Come on. No, he did not.

He just had a conversation with the guy. No, I didn't listen to every episode of the Joe an experience, but I'm pretty sure that's not what I have. Neither have I, but we would have seen it if he did that. Fudcical in the chat has a good point going back to the news segment getting cut, and this is something that we probably should have thought of. He says he canceled the news to hide all the days where they're not really live. Howard's defensiveness is the clue there's something nefarious about it. I thought about that too. I think that's a really good point, because there was something he said in there. I don't know if it was the clip we played or something

else but there was some i was like oh because i think there's pre-recorded stuff also like because he mentioned how it's only three hours now and things like that and also i had this thought too while we were talking about it i was like who would even hang out for the news now maybe like if they had like kimal or spade on or something yeah there's no funny in the studio i don't have guests that are going to like hang around and make it funny so it wouldn't work maybe they were realizing it stopped working right as well but i i like that i fudcical i like that that's a good point yeah it's a good point because there's a lot of radio shows, morning shows, that pre-record the day before and try to pretend they don't.

Scott Pettengill got busted by E. Rock. Todd Pettengo. Yeah. Todd. Yes. I'm sorry. Yeah, Todd Pettengo. Got busted by E. Rock on this very show when we found out that he had pre-recorded his New Year's day show before the new year.

He was like, hey, I was your New Year's Eve. Yeah, mine was great. Like, holy shit, dude. That's a rough. all right so then Howard goes off on a tangency you just heard of Andy asking if he regrets what he did you know getting so political before the election he does not answer that question he just goes off on a tangent about his relationship with Donald Trump and we never get back to that I thought that was a good question I wish that Andy had followed up with him on it

so then we talk about going woke of course this gets brought up a lot with with Howard look look at the glee for some reason the media when that when it was announced that I was kicked off the after some I was on vacation and the next thing I know I was in Stephen Colbert land where I was being thrown off by the FCC somehow. I don't know, whatever it was or because I'm too woke or, and meanwhile, none of it was true. But the glee in every broadcaster, you see, he came down because he's too woke, too woke. I don't even know what a woke is. What is woe.

How did we get here? The right-leaning media, that dirty right-leaning media. He's still playing the, I don't know what woke means. card. He's been doing this for quite some time now. And guys, Howard's team floated that story out there. And he pretends, because he even says, like, I'm just out on vacation. I don't know what's going on. And then all of a sudden the story comes out. Everyone's taking glee in the fact that I'm going to get fired for my job. It backfired on him. He put that story out to put pressure on Sirius XM for people to be like, why are you paying him the money? He deserves it. Instead,

everyone was just like, yeah, no one listens to that guy anymore. Who cares? Why wouldn't he get a deal? I get to be fair to like Howard's point I know like Trump commented on it and was like oh I guess he got it same as Colbert so like I guess that's what he's referring to but most people like people were not outraged how could how could serious do this they were just like it sounds about right yeah you know it makes sense that's what I think bothers him also when Trump commented on it the question he got from the reporter was completely wrong Howard got fired yeah yeah we got fired just after Colbert got fired neither of got fired And what are you talking about? Yeah. So then we get into the conversation about turning off listeners when you get to political. What would you say to listeners who were pissed off that you went so?

To woke? Political. Well, tune into the, oh, political. That you got so political. Oh, yeah, I know. But how do you, the times just seem to, I don't, you know what I tell him? I tell him, God bless you. You do whatever the fuck you want.

You want to listen, listen, don't listen. I mean, what am I going to do? beg them to listen. I suspect people who were pissed. Yeah, you know, I watch some people, I see some people now who I used to love, and they've gone off the wall, in my opinion. Yeah. I can't stomach them now.

Right. And I don't know if Howard's making that connection in his brain or not, where it's like, yeah, that's what happened to a lot of Howard Stern listeners is they went, what is this guy doing now? He's kissing Hillary Clinton's ass? No, the narcissist doesn't see it that way. I don't think he sees it

that way. He sees it as. guys lost their minds. He thinks the right lost their minds over Trump in 2016. He doesn't see that it was him that kind of went crazy and his side of things. I also wondered who he was talking about. And I was trying to figure out. And he asked that. You might know who I'm talking about.

Andy asked that question. He goes, I don't want to say. Yeah, I couldn't figure it out. But I remember there was a time when Howard watched a lot of Fox News. He was a Fox News watcher. And then all of a sudden it was MSNBC. And Rachel Maddow's on. He did, like, Hannity in those shows, yeah.

Howard did Hannity? Oh, yeah. There's a clip. I think Cardiff Electric ended up posting it. There's a clip I referenced on why you laughing that I could never find. Wow. And I'm pretty sure Cardiff posted it. It might have been Hannity's radio show, but that's where Hannity asks him,

hey, you put a gag order on Opian Anthony. Oh, right. You were about free speech. We played that. And Howard goes, yeah, my free speech. That's right. We played on WTP recently. I forgot about that.

Yeah. God, yeah. That's such a different version of Howard than he, He is today, even going on someone's show, let alone going on a right-leaning political show like Sean Hannity. That's crazy. He's just not fun. He's not fun. That's the problem.

So this is very odd. Listen to the contradiction from Howard here. I have to assume you're biting your tongue right now, though, because you read the news. You're very engaged. Yeah, I do bite my tongue sometimes. I've said it on the air. I go, I'm dying to talk about this. I said, but I'm done with it, man.

Right. Because, you know, the consequences now of speaking. out is it's really fucking heavy shit. So I pick and choose my moments. I don't like people who don't speak out. If you don't speak out, you're a pussy. But look, you know, some of these

shows, they're all acting like we're in the 1950s and nobody has an opinion. Those times have gone out the window. You really don't have an opinion. Get some fucking balls and give your opinion. Whoa, whoa. Well, the first part that. I'm so confused. The first part of that, Howard goes, yeah, biting my tongue. I don't want to have a

struck a pity that stuff because it's pretty heavy what happens to you and then immediately goes to i hate these fuckers and won't just say what they really think grow a pair yeah often i don't say what i think about things because i'm afraid of getting in trouble and to those of you that don't say what you think fuck you now we get into more howard stern show topics like the whack pack and i appreciated the way this question was asked i think definitely led to the answer because andy asks was eric the actor the best whack packer rather than who was the best whack pack was Eric the actor and Howard mentions beetle juice he mentions Hank the angry dwarf I agree these are all top five whack packers but basically Howard agrees Eric was the best

it brings me to tears to think about how beautiful he was and that's what I loved about him and he he you know suddenly he wanted an acting career here's a guy crumpled up in a chair and he wants an acting career and I get him a job in New Mexico on the set of a TV show and now he's arguing with the producers that his writer is improper, and he wants to make sure there were no were no werewolves. I mean, this is brilliant. This is great. I'm club fucking footed,

you ass, right? You know, he started out when he was talking about Eric. He's just like, this guy is a cripple. He's club foot in. But he loved his life. He was passionate about things. He was a passion about American Idol. That's why he first started calling in the Howard show. He loved calling in and being a

caller on Howard show. And he loved going to, what, he loved sporting events in Oakland, right? He'd go to A's a game. He's an A's fan. Yeah. So he was like passionate about stuff. And it's funny that as Howard's explaining what makes Eric great, like Howard's the

opposite of all of these things. Howard's able-bodied won't leave the house and all the money in the world and just fucking, you know, swimming in it like Scrooge McDunk. My takeaway from that was more that he's talking about Eric and how he's like, I got this guy a job. was always miserable and we'd fight about it. Howard's not realizing if Eric the midgett was on the show now for the first time ever, the context would be how uplifting and inspiration arrives and how we have these serious.

And it's where, like, I know you guys have made fun of John for being bitter that Howard complimented the stutterer on America's Got Talent. But John actually has a point there where it's like, that's what people are talking about. That you did a show for 15 years with a guy who made fun up for stuttering. And then one comes down, America's got talent, and it was like, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you wake up in the morning and do it. So it's inspirational. Joe Biden interview where Howard talked to Joe about his stutter.

Yeah. And there were teachers. You had a Catholic teacher who made fun of your stutter and Howard's taken aback by that. I can't even imagine. What kind of world do we live in? Hey, Gary, hire that guy sight unseen so we can humiliate him in front of celebrities. Hey, I know he's already not allowed on 101, but really make sure we don't need any John today. Just so we're clear.

People might find that silly. All right. Oh, this is a fun question from Andy. Because, again, this comes back to, and I know Howard talks about this stuff, but it comes back to the fact that they are friends. And I think they do socialize outside of doing shows. Why is your For You page on Instagram, all lady boys? Oh, my Instagram, why is it all lady boys? Yeah.

I don't know, but I love it. Did I hear that question? And I was like, what the fuck? I don't know the context. Oh, you mean, why do I look at trends? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can answer that. Research. I don't know, but I love it.

I love lady boys. You do. I do. I love seeing the transformation. Are you a little gay? I don't believe in the sense that I am accepting of gay is not the same as being gay. That's not the same. But if you're looking at lady boys thinking they're beautiful.

I don't watch. Yeah, that's a good point. It's like, no, I understand to embrace the community, but you're, like, turned on by Chicks with Dix? Like, that's what we're talking about here. Howard, I'd love you to introduce it to my firstborn, please. Yes. Actually, they even talk about transitioning the other way.

And Howard's like, God, that is it to that. Howard much more like Jim Norton when it comes to chicks for chicks. Yep. Why not? So then there's a question about Howard's archive, all the old shows. You know, all the stuff they play on Howard, Howard, one of them. one, and it was kind of interesting. I wish they could have gotten into it more, but Howard explained that he does own all

of that, and that series is very interested in having the rights to air it, and that's a big part of negotiations, and he wouldn't say what they pay for it or what the terms are, or anything like that. E. Rock might know more about that. I think he's talked about it on the show. Or how much was scrubbed? Well, yes. That's another thing, too.

So then the question comes up, what's the most amazing guest that Howard ever had? He says, Paul McCartney, I agree. Amazing guest. And I know that, you know, that was a childhood hero for Howard. Growing up a big Beatles fan. But then, oh, no, he gets the guitar out. You know, when Blackbird starts, he hits this, right? Right?

That's the first note. You know it instantly. Then he goes to here. And then he goes to here. But right here, he comes up. And he goes, just there. It goes right through my body. And I go, this guy is.

a genius. Yeah. Paul is a genius, but not because of those four diads. That's how it makes him a genius. But Howard just had to grab that guitar and start playing. That just feels like watch me show you what I know about the guitar. That's the only reason you do that. That's the only reason I do know.

I just learned Blackbird. So here's my favorite Paul McCarty song. Okay. In fact, I'm going to answer all the next questions with my guitar in song. Right. With chord progressions. Howard Andy asked the question like so you ever going to come back to the building again will we ever see it serious and I thought this was an interesting answer why are you coming in the building next week J-Lo will be here and we're going to sit down and have a long conversation that's great right yeah okay wow you're schlepping into the city for J-lo being in for J-lo wow J-lo you know that J-Lo has sold over 80 million albums he did know that is you did know that yeah I don't

do you know that because i know she's on my show as a matter of fact i'm taping her today oh you are yes i'm going back to the city which is very funny because howard is going to make the trip into the studio for jalo which i find shocking so he immediately needs to justify it because there's been so many big guests that he hasn't done that for her she's like well you know that she's sold 80 million copies and then we find out that you know jalo is making the media rounds right now she's doing Andy Cohen show later that day. She's doing all these other shows. I was like, well, I guess I'm the last person who's getting into the interviewer.

He's disappointed! Yeah, he seemed like kind of bummed out about that when he found out. I also like that he's like, how do you know, as if Jaylo's career has been underground? He's like, I don't know, I'm Andy Cohen. I'm in the entertainment business. Yeah, I know. I don't know what Howard thinks Andy Cohen is. Right. That was my takeaway.

It's so weird. I wonder if he's still going to schlep into the city. Right. Maybe you won't now. I'm a gay man who doesn't. entertainment program. Of course I know how many albums J-Lo is sold. Duh. You kind of have to know that. Right. So any other thoughts you had on this, Mike or Chris? No, I mean, like, I wish Howard could get tricked into doing an interview with an even bigger fan. Like, you know what I think? Because Andy, Andy Cohn was pretty surface level, but, like, did ask some interesting questions.

But yeah, like, if someone went a little deeper, which he'll never agree to, but like, it would be interesting to hear someone follow up and go, what about all the audio you don't play? You have all the archives, but I never hear already on there or Jackie or any of these other people. Like questions like that that has been bugging people for a decade or 15 years, however long it's been. Like, that would be interesting. Although, I do think, like, Howard not answering those questions is what keep the reason

radio gunk and quite frankly exist as podcasts still, even though no one's listening to Howard, is because people can't fathom how much this guy has changed and how he doesn't acknowledge it at all. The mystique. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Andy brought up regret a couple times. He did.

And Howard just shut it down. But he's so open about therapy and being flawed. What's the problem? You're right. Why not be open about regret? That's why you go to therapy. And it would also make for a compelling interview. Right.

So you don't make that mistake the next time. There you go. He does it and he's almost. frustrating ways where like Gilbert dies and he's like, ah, you know, the show had changed and that's why we didn't have Gilbert on it's like, well, where was that when Gilbert was trying to get on? Like, why didn't

you have that conversation then? Right. And everyone was asking about that. And again, I think he is in a bubble. I think he's shielded from this. Sure. So he's not reading a social media. Someone else is definitely curating that for him. Yeah. All right. This is a quick aside. Apparently,

Aaron Imhold, who's in jail right now, decided to call Gina. Did you see this yet, Mike? No. This is pretty fascinating. This is, uh, Gino's doing his sports show or something. He does a gambling show. He tells you what teams to pick.

Because when I see Gino, I'm like, how do I get that kind of money? Kind of gambling tips for me? He's got a headband money. He's got a lot of headband. That is true. So Gino's live doing his show. And he gets a call from Aaron Imholt. Here we go.

I say we bet the gofers for no other. reason then in an homage to steel toe. Oh, wait, I'm not live. I'm going to go live here. I got to get that. It's probably the president of show business. You will. You will excuse it. How's that his ringtone? So he's got a landline

that he's about to pick up. Yeah, this is a robbery phone. This is a Stalin 19 clip, by the way. Yeah, check this out. He actually picks up a landline for some reason. Oh, it was at my feet. Go for Gino. so he's silent right now and he just made a face so what he's hearing right now is

you are getting a phone call from the sterns county correctional facility are you kidding is this a bit do we know it's Aaron well hold on watch how this plays out okay why didn't you call me on my cell phone see he says that because all he wants to do is put it on speaker and put it up against the microphone yeah and have the exclusive interview with uh jailbird Aaron. You do understand. Like, I'm literally getting ready to bet Minnesota in homage to you. Like on the college football game.

I literally just said that to people. Okay. So I think what's happening here, I think is Aaron's going, wait, are you broadcasting right now? I think he's panicking because Aaron doesn't want anyone know that he's calling Gino. Oh, very specific reasons. Hence the landline, too. Yes.

Yeah, so listen to that. Liquid in Kisino, when they have to talk for 15 minutes before the government hangs up. Right. That's what's going on right here. Watch this. Yeah. It's good shit. I really, I really did not.

How'd you do that? I don't think you did. All right. All right. So, but I'm going to bet Minnesota. What do you think? that's a good parley right uh joey dago can i like i answered and it's like you have a call from the minnesota correction i thought it was honestly fucking aaron that's so funny

all right later bud like president of show business guys amazing calls me all the time phones ringing off the hook from him so how funny is that the aaron just like no no no no this is not me this is not me he's like oh it's joey dago over here well that's a weird conversation with joey dago yeah so you think this is a good pick that i have a minnesota okay goodbye. Thanks for calling. How's the food in there? Aaron? I thought it was Aaron. It's my other friend at the Minnesota Correctional Facility. I love the comments on here. He promised the court he would never work with Gino Bisconti again. And who is his first call from jail, but the man who sent him there? I never said I wouldn't call him, Your Honor.

Imagine being in jail and why do they call Gino? Someone else speculates. Aaron's family wouldn't take his call. That's a grim existence. I need to be. lifted up. Let me call it drunk who's gambling on the Minnesota Gophers. I just wanted to hear someone's voice. Thanks for picking up, Cheeto. You will get billed.

I've been in here six hours now. You don't know what it's like. Guy Suttering John had a gig last night. He did a stand-up show. Let's get into it. Stuttering John was in the Silver Lake Tavern in Dingman's Ferry, Pennsylvania last night playing a sold-out show. He mentioned this many times. He was opening for some musician who was on top of John's name on the bill.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, we didn't make a, he didn't make that real public. But it did leak out that that's what was going on. So here's a photo on DaBler's Anonymous of the venue that John was playing. And you can see John right there on what would be a stage if there was a stage. And a bunch of people sitting around at tables, not a huge room. Not the biggest, not the biggest room I've ever seen. So there was also some things that leaked from the show.

Tommy Jordan was there recording it. Because you sent him, I heard. Well, okay, good. I'm glad you brought that up because that specifically is what John is going to say on his show. I just thought this was very funny. So the show he played Silver Lake Tavern. If you look at the description on Google, it says, relaxed wood paneled bar

someone posted this on damers they are poses on downwards it just said hypocrites checking out a wood paneled bar that's crazy just do it so Tommy Jordan is this guy

who says he's a comic he started doing a show he's trying to get into the dabble verse he was the one who paid John money on John's birthday to come on the show and he tried to porn bomb him or no he tried to show guns He tried to show images of guns or maybe Anthony with his gun or something like that

because John had gotten in trouble for that. His channel had gotten struck for showing guns before. And, you know, Shulie and I both came out on Point-Devil point and said, yeah, we're not trying to get John's channel taken down. That's not what we're doing here. We want John to do shows. We wanted to be out there performing. It's what we enjoy watching from him.

And so Tommy live streamed John set. and I was watching Uncle Rico last night we got back from the Jim Norton show and sure enough, they got word that he was being live streamed so shooing and the gang were watching that so I was kind of watching it through them

and what was happening. Did Jim Norton have a lot of this going on? People showing up, streaming is... No, I didn't see any of that. That's weird. Jim Norton's famous, so you would think that would just happen to him. Jim Norton and more people at the show too

watching it would do so you think percentage-wise it would just, you know, just the chances. Yeah. Some of it would be there videotaping the show. Well, this is a quick video from Tommy Jordan. Now, he has since taken all of these down from what I've heard, and I did get a link to, like, his YouTube, that's been taken down.

So when he was live streaming this last night, apparently he decided that it wasn't a good thing to have up on his social media because after the show, he kept getting in John's face and trying to interview him. Did you see any of that stuff? On dabblers, yeah. Yeah. So here's a quick clip of John. leaving the bar that he was performing at.

And John does seem like he's stumbling a bit in this. Let me make this full screen. He said you wanted to meet me, bro. Whoa. Oh, he's toast. Yeah. I'll wait. Yeah, butter.

All right. Later, guys, I got kicked out. I'll wait. John, said you wanted to meet me. And I came to meet you. You were full of shit. I said, I want to meet you for this. So that was shooting the gang watching that.

from last night. And so you can see that Tommy George was being a little aggressive there. So do you want to meet me, bro? It's just like, all right, we don't, this is not what the devil versus is about. You don't need to get in his face. Yeah, we're not confronting John and trying to fight him.

This is what John does. This is why we find John to be an asshole because he's always talking about fighting people and going to their houses, going to Melton's house and KB's apartment. What is Tommy Jordan fighting John over? Right, yeah. What's even the point of this?

Yeah. John is driven in front of my house in Cape Coral and filmed it for no reason. Like, yeah, these are the things that we make fun of them for doing. And, you know, this thing we're going across the line here. You know, things that you should not be doing. And John's got it all figured out why this happened to him after he gets back to his hotel after doing the show. Yeah, I did a great show. I love hanging out with people, being the kind man that I am.

But, of course, this still had. has to send people here to harass me. Why'd you do that? That's his M.O. That's my M.O. You just said. Can't get any content on himself.

Was it all the lie, Carl? This Tommy Jordan guy who I've never talked to my wife and don't know anything about, apparently I said him. That's what you would say. Right. I said to go, beat up, John. It's just so funny to me.

I mean, that is slander. Slander is to say that. It's very funny to me that John would come on his show right after this happened. to just be like, Carl sent him. I mean, Julie and the gang were messaging and we're trying to get people to message him

because they were showing it. And so that's how I was seeing it. I don't know why John assumes that I'm the one sending people to things because that's not the case, but he's got that all figured out. He thinks you're pretty powerful. I guess so.

It's interesting too because obviously, like the dabble verse has magnified it, but I realized that when listening to you guys go back through the show you do on Patreon where you're listening to the old John stuff and the first time

you ever talked about him he's doing a podcast where he's reading like nasty tweets that he got just from random people so it's like this is not a new thing like people have been dicks Howard Stern fans were assholes to you

like it's always existed this is not a thing that Carl did or shooley did or whatever no he was talking about long before we got involved and started doing who are these podcasts like people were fucking with him on Twitter forever he's always been

a punching bag and the laughing stock but now John is trying to pretend because he knows that his stand-up set was recorded again so now he's trying to pretend that there's no way anyone can play any of that it's just like isn't this getting old

and when they play that I pity the fool that plays my stand up but that way school i mean these empty threats have been going on forever and no one ever wants aside for me maybe hether w or something no one ever once has been like oh shit okay i don't want to play any of john stand up then bad things are going to happen to me you must be a little worried after playing you doing the act they could come after you well i'm glad you brought that up we'll get there in a moment we're going to find out why we should be scared to play john stand up

so I'll get into that but first John has to respond to questions of why he didn't kick the shit out of Tommy Jordan because John's been working out at the gym I don't know if you've seen his biceps lately but he's ready to fight

and he didn't when he had a chance the dabbler Rican had John scared as hell no not really I'm not scared just can't beat the shit out of somebody because that would be violent.

I don't promote violence of any kind. He doesn't. Oh, weird. I remember in Atlantic City when Rocco asked if his son of were creeped in his face. And John goes, and I told him, let's go outside. I was going to beat the shit on him. And no one would go outside. And I was calling out Melton.

And I was calling everyone out. And no one wanted to fight because they're all pussy boys and Berawussas. and now John having an opportunity to fight a guy who's harassing him and fucking with him goes I wouldn't resort to violence guys that's crazy we would do such a thing well that it would be what Rocco did is an assault so it would be self-defense I don't think if you asked someone to come outside it can become self-defense there was also a video that John had I wish I still had it where John was threatening me the next time he sees me in Cape Coral he was going to kick my ass overt

a threat of violence against me and now all of a sudden John's like I'm not a violent guy I don't know what you're talking about how many times do he threatened to fight all of us I am stumped by this fucking guy and he always says in the boxing ring

but then he says YouTube's terms of service so it doesn't actually mean the boxing ring he means he wants to beat us up it's exhausting and it's what has me like going back and forth where there's times where I've been like I can't hear this guy said the same fucking thing again But then when he does it like three more times, I'm like, how can he not hear himself?

It's crazy. I know. Now it's funny again. It's all contradictions all the time. Now, I heard, I think Cardiff was talking about this on the show this morning because Rocco is dead. So that's bad news. Yeah, that's unfortunate. But so Cardiff did a show instead, and they were talking about getting a six-pack to go from a bar.

Now, in Pennsylvania, this is pretty standard. because of the way the laws work with alcohol sales and I think this is still the case I haven't been to a PA in a little while where you have to go to government-run beer stores and they close at a certain time so if you want to buy beer after a certain hour you can't go to a convenience store or a grocery store

you have to buy them from a bar right so John went home with a six-pack to go Civil Lake Tavern was nice enough to give me a six-pack of course I don't really drink that much at a gig Who's he trying to fool? I know.

We all hear him slurring his stupid stand-up set on all these leaked to audio. Is alcohol in here? I'm not familiar with that. He didn't drink very much. He was falling over. Yes, we saw him stumbling in the parking lot. But, no, he got a six-pack to go, which is great. Happy that he's able to drink some more beers where I was saying.

I was wondering why he had a Mick Ultra and not a Bushlight. And that explains it. It's free. Yep. Because it was given to him, of course. So there's a guy in the chat who's bringing up something that John might be doing that's illegal, criminally illegal. Spider-McKeigh, I don't know, I'm not a gig, I'm not really... So Spider-Meggie says, witness intimidation equals Class E felony four years jail.

And John's not picking up what he's putting down. I don't know. I'm not a gig. I'm not really on the road, am I? Nothing to do with that. not anything. So then he comes back and writes to this. No, I did not. He said, do you threaten Lucy a potential witness? Not at all. So, of course, there's a signed affidavit from Kaylee, Lucy, Tightbox, as part of this, you know, one of the filings of this

lawsuit that we have, this lawsuit with John. And so it's not a good idea to threaten people who are involved in your lawsuit. This is Suttering John from that Monday night that he was streaming drunk from his living room and laughing about the bills losing. I realize you work for a law firm in Rochester.

So he knows that she works for a law firm in Rochester. Okay. You do know that I'm not going to docks you. Don't worry about it. I don't know if they're going to be happy that you're busy obsessing over me.

You don't know if they're going to be happy. His concern is touching. That sounds like a threat. Right? Like someone would tell them about this? The good news is he's not under oath. So I don't be yours on it. He hasn't been sworn it. You know, most witness intimidation is done in the courtroom where they look over

and say, Your Honor, close your ears for a moment. Right. Yes. No, he just looks over and just makes the, what's that side? I was just going to say he I was just going to say he wants to come across as a ladies man so he's bringing that shit up and we know it's not true of course or a tough guy he wants to weaponize information he just doesn't know how he has no idea yeah he's like I know you work for a law firm neat inept in every way yep now I know you want me I know you

really really love me but I wouldn't think that's a good I don't know if your law firm is going to be happy with that kind of behavior. You know, I wouldn't, when I become a lawyer, wouldn't want my employees to be

trashing people online. Wait a second. Now, not only is he an attorney, but he's a partner at the firm? Yes. Wow. That's better quick. Kaylee, you're fired. Sorry. He's going to take over Kaylee's firm. Immediately fire him. That sucks. So in this scenario, Lucy's boss goes up to her and says,

Lucy, we just got a phone call. We understand you have a crush on a John Melendez, and we're going to need you to pack your things and get the hell out of it. We hear you've been tugging at his pigtails. We don't appreciate that kind of behavior off-line. It sounds like you're really into him, according to these reports. We're not that kind of firm. That's just me.

Let's go. Yeah, back home with a bushlight. Yeah, so there's John making idle threats at people that probably not the best idea. So then someone brings up, you know, John might be doing trying out some new bits in his act. Nah, nah, I was already killing. Like, why try anything different? So the super chat that comes up is, let's hear your new gentle wart bit. Love you, Duke.

I don't think he actually have one. I don't think he does. I was already killing. Like, why I try anything different? And, like, you study comics. And I hear this all the time from comedians. They're like, as soon as I get an act that's working,

I never change it. It might be the perfect time to try new material is when you're killing. Not when you're bombing. Right. Good points. Never update you an act. Like my A stuff?

Let's hear something I've never tried before. Never update your act, John. Keep talking about Taylor Swift and Kanye's rivalry. Because that's what's topical of the dudes. He still does that. He's such a fucking idiot. I think he's just heating up. We haven't heard the best of that yet.

Okay. Fair enough. He's such a dummy. He doesn't. He thinks that is one of his bits probably. Yeah, you're right. He's just like, I didn't get to the Gentle Awards bit last night. That is good.

I forgot about that. All right, so this is the reason why we should be very afraid and he pities the fool who plays any of his stand-up routine. But was it video or audio? This is Abba. Reza joins the show, quickly becoming the permanent co-host of the St. John podcast. And so Abba's reporting to the Duke, the dabbler, John Melendez, that this guy, Tommy Jordan, was live streaming his set. but was it video audio um video on his phone his dream he he suddenly took his stream down um well he should because i'll sue him

well he might get pulled over because those people are really mad at him no i'll strike it you know the i mean my whole set is copyrighted his whole set is copyrighted he could sue this guy for live streaming his set yeah i always hear that about stand-ups that don't have any of the material online but it's all copyrighted it's all it's all copyrighted. He's such a bad liar. And again, he's just a dumb guy who thinks everyone else is dumb and will fall for shit that he would fall for himself. Anyone can look up what anyone has copyrighted with the U.S. government. And how would he even do that? Does that mean every word has to be exactly the same every time? Like, how would he go about doing that? I'm glad you asked that because he explains. Oh, good. Yeah, but that's copyrighted, so I can't wait.

I don't know if you're sure if Shully restreamed the actual stand-up part. I only caught the part of Shulie where he was just watching Tommy Jordan outside contemplating. My whole act, every joke is copyrighted. So, there you go. Let's see what they're going to do. Yeah. And I'll strike every one of those bitches.

Okay. It's not a good luck, John. We're talking about striking people and this whole idea that every joke in his stand-up act is copyrighted. I've gone through the copywriting process because who are these podcasts is copyrighted? It's a pain in the ass. It's not an easy thing. I can't imagine

copywriting every joke I ever wrote. You don't think he has the follow-throughness to do this? It would be stupid to do it. It costs money. It's ridiculous. Oh, yeah, that too. Yes. It wouldn't even make sense to do this. But also, like I said,

it's public information. Who owns what copyrights? So I was looking through all of the copyrights John owns. And he owns a lot for songs for music. He has a lot of copyrights. His book. The book.

He has a copyright for. and no jokes. Not a stand-up act, not a set. Did you open the joke section on the copyright website? Oh, shit, I saw that tab. I didn't click it. Yeah, well, there you go. I'm thinking of all those poor people I've heard, quote,

Rodney Dangerfield that are in real legal trouble. They're in prison. Ice has already shipped them to, yeah, they're going to Salvador. Oh, good. Good, good ridges. Oh, wow. So, John is very distraught. this guy was there streaming his show and I watched a little bit of it you know it's the same

act that he does and it's clunky and people are talking it was 30 dollars to go there and like I said there's a musical act after him I have a feeling a lot of people were there to see the musical act because people were not paying attention to his set I hear a lot of people just clamoring in the background as John's going through talking about his son being born on the first of January and he went through the whole Kardashians at his house, New Year's Eve party thing. 30-year-old son? Very endearing conversation that he's having. And so John brings up that you shouldn't want to sabotage his shows because then he wouldn't

make as much money. And he says something that I once said, and he actually gets it right. Kevin Brennan never gets this right. But John actually got it right. Don't forget, just do it. Said it's an act of violence to fuck with anyone's income. that's true so is he is he doing it to make me not want to do it stand up anymore like is he is he trying to make me not want to do stand up anymore i mean because that's isn't that an act of

violence that's what it looks like it looks like they're trying to sabotage your live gigs so recording someone is not an act of violence it's not sabotaging him like kevin breton talked about heckling him when he's in the tent next week and then putting his car alarm off next to the tent as John's trying to perform. Like, that would definitely sabotage a stand-up show. People can't hear. What this guy did, which I don't condone, he films him, he livestreams it, and then he confronts John. And he gets kicked out of the place multiple times.

He keeps coming back in, trying to confront John again, getting kicked out again. So, like, that's not sabotaging a show, but it is harassment. And it is something that we frowned upon. no one's asking anyone to do that. It's annoying. He seems to be an annoying guy. But again, the irony here can't be lost on anyone. The reason why John is famous is for going up to celebrities and asking them questions when they didn't want to be asked questions that were obnoxious.

I mean, Billy Crystal one is just a perfect example of this where Billy Crystal's just milling about and John's going, hey, your movie sucks. And Billy's like, fuck you, man. But he did it with a real tact. There was an art to it when he did it. I know that John tries to pretend like, well, I didn't hide behind a costume. You know, like, that was one of his excuses. Like, I could do it.

They can't because I'm not like pretending I'm somebody. I'm not. Tommy Jordan's out there. He's not pretending he's not somebody's not. So what's your excuse now? That one is it. He was literally out there. You're all right.

Yes. So. Well, that is classic John too where he's like, he has the list of things and this will be added to it where it's like they called to get my gigs canceled. They call my mother on Christmas Eve. And it's all whatever ill happens to. them in the world it's carl and shooley sent these people to do this to me and it's never

correct it's they made it rain today did you watch this um so this is by the way this is late last night um yeah i i turned this on i fell asleep woke back up turned this on like three a a m he was still going i saw some of it i certainly not the whole thing okay yeah i didn't catch all of it last night but i was watching a little bit of it you know joey c's on and and ava whatever and it's amazing that you said that, Mike, because that's where I'm going next, where John equates anything that happens to him as myself personally and maybe Shulie

are the only ones doing all of these things to him. But first, someone tells John he's got to watch this Dr. Steve interview on Chad Zumach show. And John's not sure why, but he's being told by good sources, so he pops that up here. Steve, you're a good man, but this is not looking good for you. but they're not grifting. This is like a real thing, these legal needs.

Absolutely. No, listen, they, Carl asked me to set it up. I had said, what can I do to help, right? And he called me one day, and I mean, I put it on the go fund me. I haven't been big letters. Carl made me do this. It was a joke. But he said, if we set it up, people will assume we're grifting.

And we tried to think of someone that could set this up. and, you know, to help defray the legal fees. And he said, you're the most Switzerland person that we know. So, you know, I agreed to do it because they're my friends. But I also... Now, Joey, I mean, come on, man. He decided to, because they're his friends. But the real issue is that Lady Kay decided to ask him,

because he didn't want to be embarrassed. You know what happened? What happened was Dr. Steve reached out to me with a very generous offer when he found out we were getting sued. And I'm in this with Shulie together. Shulie and I are in this together. So what I thought of was, you know what, if you want to help us out,

and I do appreciate that, thank you. We could use the support on this. I did not have getting sued by an idiot in the budget for WTP this year. So I told I told Steve what you What you could do is set this up for us Because Shulie and I both need the support That way we can split whatever

People who have been very generous Are willing to donate towards this cause And for some reason John is turning this into Something that Dr. Steve has done That's nefarious Which is wild Dr. Steve

Shame on you Shame on you And you go kind of go Go back the way back to Dr. Steve and back going to date, didn't you, at one point? I think he's a nice man, but this is a, this is a bad look, fan. Yeah.

I mean, so now he's going to help somebody that's been harassing me and recording me and doing things like this idiot that came to my shoulder. He is, he is supporting that. You've been doing things? Oh, my son of a bitch He's in a lot of trouble for this. This is really bad what's going on here. God.

So apparently John is, and it's funny that Joey C goes, don't you go away back with after Steve? Yeah, yeah. John wanted to get his medical practice taken down or his license. The good old days. You got to get his medical license taken away

because after Steve wore his shirt John didn't like. So that was the first one end. I was watching John one day, and there was a great moment where he goes, someone asked him what Dr. Steve did to him, like why he was bitching and he goes, he wore a shirt mocking me. Yes.

Right, right. That's what it came down to. He is still pissed about the backlash he got for wanting to go after Dr. Steve. He couldn't believe it. He's like, why is everyone to love Dr. Steve so much? What's going on here?

He is loving this opportunity to wag his finger at Dr. Steve, even if it's actually a bad look for John that he doesn't realize that. It's a horrible look for John. And this morning, he doubled down because this is a tweet that he put out at 10.16 a.m., where he says, wow, I'm unraveling the legal ramifications of a certain Dr. Steve at Weird Medicine Tis-Tiske. So he's publicly, once again, going after Dr. Steve, when there's no legal ramifications, none of this makes any fucking sense.

He's such an idiot. Dr. Steve went on to explain very succinctly how the money is going directly to our attorney and Dr. Steve doesn't see it or touch it. And Shilly and I can't see it or touch it. Like we set this up specifically so that there's no way that this money is going towards any profitable endeavor. This is all to pay ridiculous attorney fees for a ridiculous frivolous lawsuit. See, when I was listening to him, I thought he was trying to frame it as like you didn't want people to know that you asked Steve to set up.

It was almost like he was alluding to something, dare I say, nefarious. Yes. And he's like, see, Carl asked him. Like it was a got you a moment. Dr. Steve wrote it on the GoFundMe. Carl made me do this. It's like an all cap. It's the first thing you read.

It's like in all caps on there. And I forgot about this. Thanks again, Fudgeeco. He's been helping us out a lot today. Dr. Steve said he offered addiction help to John, but John thinks he doesn't need it. That was, I forgot about that. At a certain point, Dr. Steve was seeing, like, what happened with Lady Die. He was watching Suttering John.

And I don't know if that Dr. Steve reached out directly or just kind of put it out there, that, like, he was willing to work with Jeff. and try to help him through that. And John hates that. He does not want to better himself. It's very insulting to suggest that might happen. Oh, no. Dr. Steve is going to jail.

Fuck. Well, that sucks. I want that to happen. I hear it's pretty good, actually. It's kind of like a motel with solid door. Yeah, you get to call Gino on the phone and talk sports betting and stuff. It's not so bad. Dr. Steve, you're going to have a blast.

You should have so much fun in there. Tablet time. This is just fun because there's a obnoxious John O.J. sends in a super chat. And John, I realize he's drunk, but that's no excuse for him not understanding what any words mean at all. You know, so. Anyway, thanks for the five or OJ. Really should be a 50 or hundee, considering you fucking snipe me every fucking show. Sociologist, what is it?

You can't even see you here. It's a sociologist, says it's not a short. Let me mispronouncing for you. John, there's a big word so John gets closer to us. Extreme symptom of low self-esteem to artificially adopt the dialect of another racial group talking to you, Tommy Jordan. Thank you, Joey, because I'm having a problem seeing all of a sudden. Yeah, it's an extreme Alvin, do you know what this means?

Just, wait, part of the sociology. What a panel. It's an extreme symptom of low suffice to artificially adopt the dialect of an relation with talking to you, Tommy Jordan. I don't know what he's talking about.

I haven't understood a fucking word. Any of them have said. Let me read it to you. That's harmonized together. Let me read it to you. Sociologists say it is an extreme symptom of low self-esteem to artificially adopt the dialect of another racial group

talking to you, Tommy Jordan. Okay, now I get it. Get it, right? It's not that difficult? Yeah. Not really. Finally, Abba breaks it down for these idiots. Basically, because Tommy acts black. Oh. Yeah, Nicodes, I can't tell if he's white or Hispanic,

but he's like, he's like a wigger. Like he, uh, there you go. See, OJ, next time you're right to just like, isn't that Tommy guy a wigger? Yeah. And John will get it. Oh, Wigger. So funny.

I don't know if that was the real OJ or not, but either way. It was a funny super chat. Thanks either way. And response to that. All right, Mike, wow, we've been on longer than I was expecting today. But the Howard segment needed a lot of dissection and analysis. I agree. It is time to poke a dabbler.

And let's get right to our buddy Cariff Electric, of course, putting together the poke a dabbler game. boy it's time for everyone's favorite new game show to poke a dabbler what do you say carl and co-host are you ready to poke a dabbler well not everybody but there are a certain bunch of dumb fucks who think it's okay that shall be remedied accordingly Anyway, Skowl. Sad day in the dukedom. The Yankees lost last night. So I'm familiar with kingdoms.

So if the Duke runs it's a Duke? Or is he just dumb? Is the Duke just dumb? Is that what he means? It's Duke done with a B at the end. I think five to two against the dreaded blue jays. I actually never had a problem with the Blue Jays, so I wish him good luck. I never had to talk some.

I didn't have a problem with Vladimir, Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. Because he hates the anchors. This guy's not even Canadian. He's playing for the Blue Jays. Wait till the league finds out. Vladimir. Vladimir, Vladimir, Guerrero, Jr. him because he hates the Yankees.

And, you know, we all hate the Yankees. How could you hate? America's a lot of sports franchise in America. How? Come on. Because of their fans. I think it's quite obvious, John. Disagree. We're class acts.

Gladdy, don't be catty. Jesus. Makes me saddy. And that's bad. Betty. Oh, boy. Well, anyways, it was tough. Danny and I were hanging out for a while.

And we were having a good time talking. Wait, what's that? Was he saying he was doing Coke? Yeah. We were ever getting that talking? Hold on. That's what I said again. With our nostrils.

Yeah. I don't know if he meant to do this on purpose or just subliminally. He just wanted to let us know that he's having a party with Danny. It was tough. Danny and I were hanging out for a while. And we were having a good time talking. And it was fun. And then this, you know, and then he left.

Went to the good will. and dropped off a bunch of clothing. What did John say next? Here are your choices. Number one, because that's the kind of guy that Danny and I are. Because the Duke's been in the gym every day. Nothing fits.

Next. Imagine some lucky guy will be wearing the Duke's clothes. Four. Lucky. Because charity is my middle name. And lastly, would you believe it? The guy at the goodwill was a fan.

Oh, boy. To poke. A dabbling. Wow. We are short-stabbed, guys, so we got to get this. Hold on. I'm going to go number one, because that's the kind of guy that Danny and I are. What do you think?

Blind Mike. I actually also think that's what it is. Fuck, what did I just say to you guys? No, come on. Everyone for themselves. Because I'm going one. All right. I do like lastly.

Yeah. Would you believe it the guy at Goodwill was a fan? Yeah. Let's find out. And then this, you know, and then he left, went to the Goodwill and dropped off a bunch of clothing. Because that's the kind of guy that Danny and I are. Fuck yeah.

We're all winners today, boys. Hooray. Take that, Cardiff, you dump potato. I threw you the lob and you ran with it. That's great. Danny went to the Goodwill, by the way. Yeah, I know. That's why the recognizing would also be ridiculous.

Hey, I've seen this shirt on YouTube. And, uh, And then drove my car home, and then he was at my house this morning at the early time of 8 a.m., which is way too early, yes, to keep these good looks in good shape. Was anyone else awake at that hour? Probably not. Yeah, it's still dark out, I think, right? spark

sabotage the system what you say sabotage I say sabotage you know I wonder if I could find that audio yeah you probably can't it's important

take your time yeah it's important it's important this show sucks Jesus That is cartoonish Oh yeah, here it is

Hey what is Wow That's all for this time Let's come back next time To find it if you And enough A dabbler Patreon.com

slash cartiflectric Go there now Sit, Eugene, sit Good dog Do da da da da da Someone at dabbler's was speculating on what his keyboard must look like. Oh, God.

Is it like jumbo keys that stand up to that kind of... I was going to do it as like a mocking him, and I was like, I don't want to destroy my computer. It takes a beating. If that wasn't a sketch, that would be a massive laugh. If you were like, let me see if I could find it. Oh, yeah, there it is. We just take it for granted now, but yeah, it's crazy.

I push the red button, then the blue button. And the big yellow button. All right. Well, we've had a lot of laughs today. But if you're not done laughing for the weekend, then you should definitely check out the Blind Mike Project Sunday at 10 a.m. It's live, but you can watch it anytime afterwards or listen to it wherever you get fine podcasts. That's true.

Yes, and we will be live tomorrow. It's at 10 a.m., as Carl said. And I've got, I don't know if it's breaking news, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it. Okay. You know the segment that you guys talked about with Whitney Cummings? I sure do. She deleted it from her podcast. Oh, I checked today.

It's still up on her YouTube as of this morning. Oh, that part was deleted. Yes, that part. The episode is up. It's four minutes shorter. Oh, I know I've got to check the YouTube. That's amazing. So we're going to talk about it, but she doesn't want people to, I guess.

I don't know. But we're talking about that and Andrew Schultz. Do you need the clips? I can send them to you. No, I took it from a Unique's channel instead. Okay, good. I know, yeah, because Craig, was like pulling the

clips and he was like I think he timestamped this wrong and I was like I don't think I did and then I went back through the entire episode and I was like oh it's not there anymore. That is amazing because the reason why I went on her YouTube channel today is to see if there's been a new episode that's come out yet. Yeah. Because I want to see if she does the same thing Bill Burr doesn't bear

herself. There's less content than there was the last time you look. Yeah. What a fucking idiot. Yeah. So we'll be talking about that tomorrow. Excellent. Do you think she sees anything wrong with her take on everything? I don't know. Oh, that's a good point. She must, right?

Does she just get bad feedback and went, oh, these guys don't get it? Or did she go, maybe calling everyone racist was the bad move on this one? It's funny, because if you look at the comments, people are all, like, hilarious that Whitney would call us all racist, blah, blah, blah. And if you're just watching the episode for the first time, you're like, what are these people talking about? Right. That's how I felt today when I was reading all these comments about Artie Lang in the Andy Cohen interview with Howard Stern. I'm like, do they see something I didn't see? Did this get caught out or something?

Yeah. Didn't see why there's a lot of Artie talk. that is funny because all of the top comments are about Whitney handling that so poorly and calling people racist and everything else. Turns out it never happened. They never have these people are delusional. We're just making it up, it turns out. Also, you can watch Mike on this very channel.

We have Who Are These Socials? We record that every Thursday night, 6 p.m. Eastern. And if you are a podcast listener, you can get that podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Subscribe to Who Are These Socials. It shows up every Friday for you. I've been getting them out Thursday nights lately. So they're there right there Friday morning. You can listen to who are these socialists.

Say again, you spoil these people. I do too good to them. I'm no Craig. I actually do my homework. Well, that's for sure. Get it tons. People can listen to the audio as soon as it's available for people. And that's a very fun program that we have.

And then Mike also hosts a show called, Why Are You Laughing, a History of Comedy Podcast. What's going on with Why Are You Laughing? Albert Brooks will be this week. I like Albert Brooks more for like his mystique. He's a guy who handled his entire career the right way and like still, you know, into his 70s or however old he is now, like has an actual mystique to him, which you can't say about a lot of guys. So there was a doc that came out about him not too long ago that I watched.

I watched it in preparation for this. Yeah, it was very good. It was very good. Well, excellent. People should subscribe to Biden Mike's YouTube channel if you haven't already. Wherever you listen to podcasts, there's three different podcast feeds. The Blind Mike Project, why are you laughing? And who are the socials?

Mike, always great to have you on. Thanks for coming back and talking some men's room with us. Always a pleasure. Thank you, boys. I appreciate it. All right. I'm going to let Mike get out of here. We're going to listen to some internet news and play some voicemails.

And thanks, guys, for being here with us and checking out the show. Internet News with Jen from the Jiggles Department. From Patreon, Chris Atrell is out. raged. Carl, how could you leave out Bert Kreischer saying he would kill his wife before divorcing her? I know it was a packed show, but that was the real highlight of that tiger belly appearance. Drew Peanuts gets nostalgic. Kaya and Doug, just like old times. Love it. Deluxe is grateful. Jenny Jiggles fact-checked my comment. Thanks for the boner, Jen. Snuggs is realistic. I would say shame on Easy and Blatt for going on Tom Meyer's show, but

Blatt would just shrug her shoulders and Zane would ask what the hell shame meant. Junkie fantasizes. Would be cool to see John challenge Carl to an arm wrestling competition. I can just imagine how wet S.J.'s palms would be. From Dabler's Anonymous, Majestic Risk posts Carl's creep-off consequence, performing Stuttering John's stand-up act. He adds, Like, if you think Carl is way better at this than Stut Joe. Over 100 upvotes at the time of this recording.

Papa Swam equates it to, like watching someone reenact a traffic accident and do a better job. Willie Taintopines. I don't like Carl all this. that much, but that's fantastic. Dude has balls. Brian W. shares, I'll never get the Carl hate or even dislike. I'm glad he finally did his consequence. Bravo, Vinnie, from making it happen. Relative pain notices, Carl's definitely more comfortable in front of a crowd than John with all of his years of headlining. Uncle Rico 96 gushes, Home run, hamburger, home run. Rockstar 81, there are times when we are reminded that Carl is a

national treasure. And from YouTube, the curator points out, when the stuttering and stammering starts, You know John is lying his ass off. Fubar Snafu agrees. You can tell he's lying. His stutter is more pronounced when he lies. Head Trip takes it even further. John has to look up and to the right to remember. Classic sign of lying.

Chris Green goes furtherer. I love when John gets caught in one of his lies. His back pedals are childish and not well thought out. Every day his story changes and he adds a few more details that just dig the hole he's in a little deeper. I believe they have a saying for that. Something about stepping on a rake? He's such a dummy. J.A. Wilson's 666,6 writes,

Adam is visibly uncomfortable watching John's acting. The Ranting Hick reports, I'm sure that the guy who remembers how many gold stars he got in first grade doesn't remember how much he got paid. Makes sense. And Gridlow plays us out with, spoiler, we never do get to the fireworks factory. Yeah, you know, I played my, me doing John Stanup's Set on Who Are The Socials this week.

But we didn't play it on this program. So if you're interested in you haven't seen it, go to the creep off YouTube channel. It's up there. Chucker Andy filmed it. And you can tell when he chuckles a few times that Chucker Andrews on filming it. But yeah, it was an interesting experience doing John's jokes in front of, I was talking to Vinny about this because it's such a dark theater and it's so hard to tell. He thought there were like 35 people there. That's what I would say.

Okay. So it was more than I thought. But it's just like it's so spread out because it's a lot. movie theater yeah um but yeah most people had no idea what was going on that was evident i didn't say what was going on no one clued anyone in it was just introduced and oh it was great people in front of me going oof when i brought my Puerto rican dad people were offended uh all right we got some voicemail i didn't get to the voicemail segment on wednesday so we're gonna we got twice as much to get to today and of course the voicemail segment is

the rock and rolla voicemail segment bunch of crap. Swing in a mid. Rock and roll. Rock and roll. Gary and San Diego. Hey, Carl. Love you, love the show. Do you think if I wrote and mailed like 200

transcripts of Aaron's White Power Hour to the Stearns County Jail and just wrote it to like any prisoner of color, do you think they would distribute that? I don't know. I just think that we could. could make the toes time in jail a little bit more interesting. Call me back.

Let me know what you think. Go married. Don't do that. Don't try to get Aaron and Holt beat up in jail. For real. That's not cool. Now what we're looking for here. We want Aaron to come back and have many tales of what it was like on the inside.

Do you imagine he gets murdered? That would be the first time ever got his nine days in jail. That would be his first L. That's how cool I once, guys. I made enemies immediately in a county. Jill. Cool. Knock, knock, who's there, gay?

That's both the most entertaining thing I've ever heard, Aaron Imholt say, and possibly a premonition to how his first night in the cells will go. And speaking of being gay and is it gay, you very nearly gaslit yourself into an additional point on

the last, this little piggy car. Well done, good try. Of course, the name of the game is is it gay? That's where that Aaron says something is gay, not whether he just says the word gay, but good try. Now, what we need you to do is to bring that cheating energy to your voting at the creepoff.com and you might actually win one time. Yeah, maybe, maybe someday, well, I banged out two consequences within 12 hours.

I'm very proud of myself, although people are not happy that I gave Aaron him hold 100 bucks. But I did not put that on the wheel. That was all mini Paul, you know. He's the one who wants to fund the canteen. Yeah, I didn't think you'd put it. put that on the wheel. Yeah, I know. But here we are.

Anyway, what else was that guy talking about? What was a border guy talking about? Oh, yeah, cheating at this little piggy. Yeah, Patrick Melton really made a stink about that. I'm sure. He really did on this little piggy. Okay, nigger. You said fur, sona, like F you are?

What the fuck? Bro. I'm gay, bisexual, whatever. And this is not gay bisexual. this is some weird fucking shit bro okay i'm just sorry i i don't need gay or people or swingers or anybody that does this shit but that is weird and creepy man it makes look like like those cockle people it makes them look fucking normal now there's them wrong with these motherfuckers fuck that shit it's coming from a gay person all right i'm gay or bisexual or whatever

sure i'm sure you were really smashing all the puss over there what was the first part of that. What was his complaint? So Fursona, so we were talking about the furies with Kaya and Doug last week. And this guy's like, hey, just because those guys are gay. Most of us gay guys are not up to that bullshit. Which I get, I, you know, there's

like, there's like, Germans who've done bad things too. And I'm like, well, you know, let's not throw all the Germans and I'll tell you about it later. You seem confused about what I'm talking about, what I'm referring to. No one who's German could be evil. I know, I know. So, first time, long time.

This is Lispy Retard here. And fuck you for the last Wednesday episode. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Watching the fucking Cubs game during the podcast. If you don't want to watch sports during the podcast, then don't watch fucking sports during the podcast. I do. What the fuck kind of podcast host does that?

You don't go to work and do your fucking job and watch sports while you do your fucking job. Some people do. Yeah, bartenders. And fuck you for trying to do. crampling over Adam Bush's joke like that. Fuck you, Carl. Love you, Adam Bush. Love you, producer, Chris.

Goodbye. Yeah, I do feel bad about that. I don't like to watch. Listen, the Cubs were in the plows for the first time in five years, and they just happened to play all their games during WTP. So I was watching the Cups.

And Adam had a funny E-Rock joke about a fat guy in the background. I was totally distracted. That's on me. I know. The guy was right. I fucked up. I didn't make it any better either.

I really messed it up. All right, we have a listener who's on the inside of the furry fandom who call it with some inside information. Hey, Carl. I'm just calling because I'm listening to the podcast episode that you guys did. If you ever need, like, a gay, transgender furry consultant to, you know, fill you in on some of these blanks that you might be missing, you just let me know. I'll be here. And I am going to be in attendance at MFF this year. and I'd be happy to, you know, supply some details.

Just, you know, I just feel like you're missing out on a lot of good shit, and I'd love to help you. Also, you should probably kill yourself. Ween sucks. Hi, Mike. Wean does not suck, sir. But everything else is spot on. It's ridiculous. Honestly, if you're going to be at MFF, the Midwest furry fuckfest thing,

thing. Call in again, let us know when that's happening, because I would like to get boots on the ground reports of that. I'm fascinated by all of us. So, yeah, let's get into it. Call me back. Let me know when that's going to be, and we'll set you up. Hey, Carl.

Okay, I have a taste. Listen to the end of the one show. I talked about John's liver shutting down and everything with the drinking. And I work as, I work in an emergency room. And I used to work with Indian tea for many years. And I just see how this is going to end. John's going to end up eventually having another stroke. He's going to be in a senior living.

He's going to come in a hospital. He's going to be covered in piss. Lethargic, not knowing what's going on. And that's how he's going to go out. And that's how he's going to be remembered. A sad, lonely man with no family at his bedside. All right, cool. All right.

We'll have a great day. Chris, give me a call. On that note. You know, Wednesday is always the best. 51 seconds. Betwaining today? Yeah, that's all right. Bees trip in 2028.

45 seconds is the maximum. Optimally, it's fewer than that. Fewer seconds than that. So, Kaya takes like a 10-year break from who are these podcasts, and when he comes back, the show he picks is just nothing but sexual deviance. Yep. Huh. Who would have thunk?

Who would have thunk? Kaye's into some weird shit. Or he likes to make fun of weird shit, I guess. I shouldn't say he's into it. He seems to take a little pleasure in it. He's not ordering any of those child sex styles, is my point. Not using his name. Oh, so he is.

No one who doesn't come on the show very often. They show up at Doug's place. Let's hear about why Aaron put in the request to get just weekends for his jail sentence. Hey, Carl. It's the Arborist. You know, it's funny that Aaron wants to go, like, for four weekends in a row because, I guess, one, he's not going to see his kids, but then two, he can, like, talk about this shit that he sees in county jail over the weekend on his podcast, like a tough guy. But really what he's going to do is talk about that shit that's mundane and stupid because it's county jail, not prison. but then two people are going to clip it like you're talking about and then send it to the county

get other people that are doing extended time and they're in trouble and then he's going to come became made like it's pretty funny he should do the four weekends i would like that and i think this little thing he would like it too i would have preferred that but now errand's in jail and he won't be out until sunday next week it's too bad host. It's the woke bay out of Detroit. I'm going to try some stand-up real quick. I just bear with me here. Here's a joke of I'm working on.

Great. A gay will compliment your outfit and give you some diet tips. A faggot will tell you about his persona and ask what your kids are doing later. Anyway, so still in progress. That's all I got so far. Love you, fags. Don't come to school tomorrow. Bye.

Siri, hang up. Siri, hang up. Siri, hang up. Siri, hang up. Siri, hang up. Tip of the hat to Gary in San Diego. That joke needs a little work. This is for WATP.

That's a crow flies. I'm a 44-year-old straight man, and I guess I'm still a furry, but I kind of got into it in 2004, 2005. Okay. It really varies. It could be rated G, it can be rated X. I never got into the photographic side of it. I more or less enjoyed the puppetry, and the fur seats are pretty cool, and some of the art.

If you like Bugs Bunny, I mean, I guess you could consider yourself a furry. I mean, he's an apicalmorphic character. So, I did attend Midwest Fur Fest in 2005. Oh, wow. That was in Schaumburg. Shout out to Schaumburg. and Anthrocon was in Pittsburgh. It might still be, I don't know.

I don't really pay attention to it anymore because I got a little bit more mature and older. But I do still own a parcel fur suit. It's a paws and a tail. Yeah, back 20 years ago, it was a $500 commission just for a couple pieces. And I think it's all I really wanted to. Oh, so guest of honor at one of the years of Anthropon was Rob Paulson. If you're not aware who he is, he is the voice of Raphael, Teenage Green Ninja Turtles, Pinky from Kinky in the Brain, PJ from Goof Troop. Okay.

So I don't know if they're still getting those big names, but, I mean, hell, that's a pretty good for a guest of honor. So he was attached to it. Anyways, take care. Love y'all. Bye. Oh, wait. Don't go. Yeah.

Are there more things you want to tell us? I play, there's a little too long. I played that because I was fascinated. There's a 44-year-old straight man. There's a furry. Yeah, you're not buying it? Something's off there. Something's off.

All right. I'll trust your judgment on this. I'm like Howard Stern. I'm like, I don't know anything else. Wow, Dave Chappelle, not catching Flackber, playing in Saudi Arabia, and he wasn't really upset about doing it either. Maybe it's because he's a secret Muslim. Yeah, he's a Muslim and doesn't talk about it. So when he criticizes Israel to sound woke, it's actually just because he's a Muslim.

but go and talk about it take it easy and also go fuck yourself carl all right i thought that was well known that he's a muslim i don't know that was a secret remember how we heard about that aaron mhole in order to fall asleep plays royal match yeah till his eyelids get heavy yeah he falls asleep royal match is not a game that the girls play on their phone my 13 year old son also plays royal match on his phone oh shit i think i have to have a talk with my son Chris, call me back. I will. All right.

It reminds me of when Bart is wearing the Hawaiian shirt. Oh, yeah. Does he look like a big fat party animal? What have you got against gays? That's the one right there. Bye. Boom. A plane has hit volley.

Vinny Paulino, because he's so fat. Boom. All right. Ready to roll the credits? Yep. All right, guys. Bye. Until next time.

Bye. Bye. I got to go. Bye. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go.

Okay. That was a great episode. That was really great. Okay. Folks. Guess what? The episode's over. This is it.

It's over. Okay. Goodbye. Goodbye. Hey, goodbye. Okay, bye. Don't you worry about it. Don't you worry about it.

Well, you should be worried about it, actually. Sorry, take that back. You shouldn't be very worried. Be very, very worried. I love Tuki at the end.