Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep668 - Ron the Waiter vs. Gregg Opie Hughes

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

We have an explosive episode where Opie is forced by Ron the Waiter to confront reality for the first time. But first, Keanu gets called out for scrolling through her mom’s phone without permission. Keanu really has zero regard for people’s private information. KarmicX is completely out of things to do on his show but thankfully Adam is in his chat so it gives him the opportunity to scream about Adam and me being gay. A racist podcast has an opinion about my takes on Whitney Cummings. Myster Magenta has a new song dedicated to Aaron Imholte’s jail sentence. Ava Raiza revealed a potential scheme from the Shuli Network that involved StutJo’s trans son and John couldn’t be happier to play the victim! We watch the second and third episodes of John’s epic failures on the Pro Football Arm Wrestling Championship. Ron the Waiter watched Anthony Cumia’s recent takedown of Opie and he learned a lot about his podcasting partner that he was unaware of. Thankfully, Ron took copious notes and really took the Opester to task. It’s brilliant and one of the most significant events to ever happen on Opie’s stream. Megan and Annie join us for another round of “Is It Gay?” and Cardiff’s “To Poke A Dabbler.” And finally Megan reads some Spotify comments and we hear your voicemails.  Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Watch this episode here: https://youtube.com/live/xFSqtHOgAbI  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I missed penis. What are you talking about? I'm the one who should apologize. Is it going to be absolutely riveting? Is it going to change your life by any stretch? Probably not. But it's going to be at least. entertaining, okay?

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We recorded that. That was a whopper. You were over. Jenny Jingles was here. And so fun going back to 2016, the very second podcast John ever hosted. And immediately, it's all about Jackie Martling, the biggest piece of shit. it's so great just to see

people confuse what happened in the dabble verse this happened on Point we had this discussion with Averiza where it's like well everyone's just ganging up on him and so how do you want him to act

I'm like no no this is John's M.O. This is all we have his content has always been bashing people Yep it's amazing Yeah and sometimes it's prefaced with but I love him Sometimes Yeah yeah

That seems to have gone away over the years And then yesterday I did a bonus show with Monique from Radio Gunk and we went through apparently Monique told John he needs to apologize to her and I didn't realize

all the shit that John did doxing her calling her husband to threaten a lawsuit and all this crazy shit that John did to Monique so we talked all through that and watched a video of John apologizing

so it's all better and also we went through Howard Stern actually went into Manhattan this is a big deal he went to the series like some studios into the big scary building with people and germs.

In order to interview, J-Lo, because he thought this interview is like a big deal to get Jennifer Lopez, who is a vapid nothing. And they're two narcissists having conversations about how they need to be loved and no one can love them the way that they need to be loved, but they're able to love other people. And it's insane. J-Lo's first husband put out this Instagram post

that was just like, fuck you, you cheated on me. How dare you go on Howard Sturred? say that no one's ever loved you. I did everything I could. I moved for you. I went up through all this stuff. The New York Post picked it up. E.T.

We were playing a clip from it. Anyway, that's the point. It's a very good bonus show that was taken down because Sirius XM gave me a copyright strike on. If you are on our Patreon or if you're on, well, if you're on our Patreon, what I did is I posted it on Rumble and there's a link to it on our Rumble page. I'll get it back up. We'll win this. But I haven't won it yet. So we are disputing it.

We'll get it back up. It is fair use. But Series X-7 is the second time they've done this to me. They haven't done it in a while. But for whatever reason, they decided to strike this one. You get all that at patreon.com. That's where these podcasts. Fight thedabler.com is another place.

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comments section. Today, we'll be checking in with Carmick X as Adam was back in Carmick's chat. Another podcaster criticizes our coverage of the Riyadh comedy festival meltdowns. Mr. Magenta wrote a parody song for Aaron Imholt. Ava had a big reveal on Point-dabblepoint and Suttering John is so super stoked he can play the victim. He can't wait to play the victim. We'll cover that. I know how to do this.

Plus more of Suttering John's performance on the pro football arm wrestling championship on CBS. Ron the waiter watched Anthony's recent rant about Opie and he took notes. And Ron went on the Opie and Ron show and took Opie to task. That's going to be a fantastic segment. Looking forward to that also.

We'll be here another round of, is it gay? We'll try to poke a dabbler with Cardiff. We got your reviews. We got voicemails. But first, Keanu Thompson was busted for not respecting people's private information again. And you won't believe who she's perpetrating against this time. It's pretty remarkable. Thanks to Sill Thorough Joe Burrow for posting this on Twitter and to Shulie for sending me the link.

Okay. And then tell me this, okay? All of a sudden, my daughter has my phone and is, I don't know, scrolling on it, doing something really odd on it. I would never dream of picking up my daughters or my sons or anybody's phone and start scrolling or doing whatever you're doing on my fucking phone. That's Michael Ian. That's Keanu's mother that they do a show together.

I thought it was Buckethead. I got hungry for chicken for a second there. Adam still looks for place. Questions? I've seen Keanu before. I feel like I've seen her mother before. These are demons, right? I'm hallucinating.

It's October. They've been dressing up for hot with like Kino Casino now. They like do this dress up thing. Okay. On their show. What about last month? Yeah, because it's been going on for me for a while. Yeah.

So did you hear that? Mike Aline is fired up. And she's like, yeah, guess what my daughter did? Open my phone and started scrolling through it, which is an invasion of privacy. Let's see how cute. who reacts to this and wait you have your own phone i don't understand why you're on my phone so that went on for the for about five minutes and i said could you please put my phone down you're making

me nervous i might have stuff on there that i don't want you to see i'm sure you do well how dare you that's so disrespectful it's incredible it's incredible the stuff that's incredible the stuff that kids do to their parents because they think they're stupid or something. What could be on there? Ooh, she feels disrespected as well. And you saw the cat who's like, oh, we're going to laugh this one off, right, mom?

Nope. I will tell you. I was at a conference for work once. And there's a speaker out there and he goes, okay, I want everyone to open up your photos app on your phone. Everyone, get your phone out, open up your photos app. Now hand it to the person next to you. And he goes, stop.

Do not do that. Nobody do that. This is such an invasion of privacy to, like, have someone look through your phone or anything on your phone, but you know what I mean? It's fucking wild. I'd be pissed, personally. I'd be very upset. I'll just send you my dick pick. You don't have to steal my phone.

Thank you. See? I told you he was to just do it. That you don't want me. It's not your fucking business and you shouldn't be picking up my phone. I would never do that to you. I would never look on your phone, not ever. We didn't even realize that we were fighting on the...

We weren't phoned. Yeah, of course you didn't, Keanu. She's so clueless when it comes to what she does to people with their private information. It's like, oh, you're upset about that? Yeah. You're making me nervous because you're on my fucking phone. Where's yours? You just admitted you have cataracts.

You didn't realize it would be dark at 7 o'clock in the morning. Yes, at the beginning of cataracts. I will have them fixed when it went in due time, okay? But what does that have to do with you looking at my fucking phone? Thank you, Mike Alaine. What does that have to do with you looking at her phone? You can't see it. I might as well.

I think I was just trying to put the navigate. I don't know what I was doing, but I apologize. Oh, okay. She was just trying to put the navigate. Uh-oh. That fell flat. She's going to have another excuse coming up. Don't worry.

No, good. You were trying to put the navigation on for five to ten minutes. Okay, you are being ridiculous. That just didn't happen. You're upset that you just rear-ended someone. It totally did happen. Why were you on my phone? Are you serious?

She seems pretty serious, Keanu. I don't know how many more times she can tell you. Yes, she's serious. This is really happening. And I get it. She might not look serious, but I think she should be upset. You and Eugene. I mean, my God.

Yes, I would never, ever pick up your phone. and scroll on it you said you were looking at no no no you said you were looking at duggy pictures i said what are you doing on my phone i said what are you doing in my phone you said i'm looking at the pictures of the duggies you know not that i ever quote but you almost you almost rear-ended somebody oh there's nothing to do with why you're on my phone yes wow good job michaeline she tries to deflect again and michaeline's holding her to task, which is not good to see. Yes. I was bringing the navigation to the doggy pictures for five to ten minutes.

This is, this is hearsay, and I think you're lying. I'm not lying at all. Admit it. I have a specific memory. I know this happened. Do not gaslight me into thinking that that's how. You know, not tell me you weren't looking on my phone. This drive.

Mom, I sent the photos to myself on your phone of the dogs. it took no more than 30 seconds. That's not true. That is not sure. You were making me nervous to run my phone. And then you almost rear-ended someone. Like, honestly, I did not almost rear-end them, okay? Are you fucking kidding me?

I barely spoke a- You know what? I drive fine when I'm by myself without you. Dude, ear. Okay. Yeah, someone was looking through my phone. I'd be distracted while driving as well. Like, what app are you opening? up over there. Nope, don't open up that one. No! What are you doing? And then immediately after that,

you just hear, it drives so much better by myself. Sorry to God. It's very true. It's funny how frozen people get when saying, oh, Mom, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to go through your phone. I won't do it again. It's like not an option. You don't know where to go or what to do. Yeah. You're just like, you're kidding. I guess this is a joke. Is this really happening? Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, Keanu had a very weird reaction to that. And she had the same. reaction to me when I confronted her at Villa Roma. I was just like, yeah, you read my private text on Kevin Brennan's show. I thought that

was really shit. Oh, come on, it was funny. What do you mean? You're not mad, are you? Come on. It's funny. Being silly. I want to know what Michelin has to hide because it's good. Whatever it is. Yes. She's like, you don't have anything to hide for me. She's like, oh, no, I do. Give me my fucking phone back. Yeah, cool. I like

that. All right, so Adam, you were checking out, you were checking in with our buddy Carmick. Yeah, I wasn't planning on it, but I saw that he had really take an offense to our last piece on him where we just checked up on him to see what he was doing and what was he doing he was eating potato chips that's right he's eating potato chips and he's like wow these are really tasty he was rating them on a one to ten skit he was just like well these are both crispy and salty i wasn't expecting that it's like yeah yeah the potato chips they're always

he called me out by name and he said uh that i was uh you know cherry picking old clips of him to make him look foolish, so I figured I would make it up to him, and I would watch the show like yesterday the day before. Okay. Checked in to see what he was up to. Ah. Me.

Ah. Ah. Eh. Eh. Ah. Ah. It's like this. Ah.

Me. And the little koal bear was being escorted by its bigger one and going, you're getting out of the tree. You know, by the mouth there, you know. And it was like, ah. it's just standing there that was adorable that video I wish I could share but yeah crying gullabar I want to be up in the tree why you escort me out of the tree big

Quala bear bully So it was a cute I didn't think he could turn a crying Quala bear into a 90 second bit I'll be honest Thought it would have moved down a little quicker from that Nothing foolish there He's just workshopping a much bigger piece here

Oh okay good You want to keep things moving You want to set up the next clip I do because I just wanted to make sure That was not an isolated incident So I stopped for 20 minutes And then I checked in again Here's what he was up to

I might need like a little like a little slide guitar slide guitar actions as it's sitting like this. I failed that one. But I failed everything. I'm starting to see why he is a AI musician. He only makes music using AI I don't think he likes music No

Neither does Tuki Because Tuki sings these songs He plays him in the car He gets upset when they're not on Spotify I think it's in the same way That we like a lot of the lowcals here You appreciate it on a unique level And I thought he might need some help here with the show

So I decided to chat something in I can't remember exactly what it was But I appreciate that because you're watching this guy and he's like got nothing to talk about. He watched some show on Animal Planet. And then he's making whatever air guitar noises he's making. I don't know what he's doing. When he's not yelling at someone, he doesn't have a good default yet.

Okay. So Adam enters the chat. Adam Bush. Did you just write that? Hey, go write something else, fucker. I ain't sending Adam Bush shit. Why? So we can watch him sit in front of his.

fucking desk, I mean, there's a bookshelf. Hey, look at me people. I'm a book reader. That's credibility right there. Hey, this guy has credibility. Look at his bookshelf. That was a pretty good Adam Bush impression. For a minute, I was listen to the clip, Adam.

Oh, that was Carverick. Okay. Suck my dick. Not you for any, not Adam Bush, just the world in general. Okay. So someone told him to send you the link. if you would you have gone on his show if he had sent you the link I don't know if he has that but you would I would

I would interesting oh bedabler why what the fuck's your problem what happened what all right so now we have Rocco out here aka Tuki AKL replay a Badaabler oh great another

Karmic live show what did you put jelly on toast and want to tell the world amazing this guy's the biggest fan What happened? I didn't do anything to you and you're like, Er, Karmic, bad boy.

Shut the fuck up. Yeah, if you don't like the show, don't watch a bitch. Jelly on toast and wanted to tell the world. I tell the world whatever the fuck I want. What do you do on your show? I crack some jokes. I'm entertaining and I bring a lot of people

in it while I watch what I have to say. Knee slappers. I do it in a puppet. Yeah, look at me, everybody. I'm trying to attract a arrested developed individuals. And a Mexican wrestling. Mask. Disposable income.

Double digit IQ and a triple income. Let them filter in into my fucking cracks. I'm too key. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Got it. See you, bed dabbler. And next time you approach me, approach with a little bit of fucking respect. Got it, bitch?

I'm not even sure how to do that. I know. He's just super tipping you. It's hard to understand what he's supposed to do there. he has he said something interesting there there there what so he goes you have a triple digit income and a double digit IQ right that's what I heard so he's talking about people's income and that always is a red flag for me with these characters where they start counting other people's money i was listening to patrick mountain show yesterday and he was playing clips where karmic had like a ton of

money stolen from him through some kind of scam. Like, I think it was taken out of his bank account or something. And Karmik was saying that he's going to get on an airplane and find out who scammed him and get his money back. Because he's in Carpets to fly all the way on the other side of the planet Earth to do it. So I think he might have some money issues right now, I guess is my point. I think maybe that's what he's feeling that. That's why he's going after Tuky.

But Tuky might be the only guy. Well, maybe Cardiff. The only guy who, like, makes enough money doing this that he could probably support his family, but also has a full-time job to support his family as well. So I don't think he's starving. He's also one of the few adults and, like, parents in this dabblerverse that took the time to, like, speak to this guy and help him out and offer him advice. And he did none of that and seized no responsibility at all.

All right. So is there more talking to Tuki here coming up? Yeah, he really wants to make sure that Rocco knows how he feels I'm sure Tuki's face has been fucked by Rocco I'm sure he'd fucking fuck that face out of a sick thrill I guarantee it That poor fucking puppet I don't send links to anybody anymore

I don't I'm done with links Fuck y'all it's a solo show I'm just gonna do me And if you don't like it, eat a dick Because everybody wants to come on my show and talk big fuck off this is my world

I'm just letting you guys fucking walk around in it sounds like you're not that sounds like no one's a lot to walk around in your world also not a show also what Carwick just describes sounded interesting

possibly entertaining someone's gonna come on and talk big let's see that nope it's just me and potato chips sorry the idea

okay I probably have told the story before but I used to work for a woman when I left her company, she thought that I was going around trying to sabotage her company and bad-mouthing the company to clients and things like that. So she hired a private investigator to look into my nefarious deeds that she considered

I was doing. I wasn't doing any of those things. And she realized that I wasn't. The reason why she thought that is because she would do that. Yep. The fact that Karmik's first thought in, I bet you have face fucked your puppet, Tuki, is wild. That would never be a thing that I would think. I'm like, what if Rocco's face

fucking that thing? I'm so glad you mentioned that, because that's where this goes, and I want to know what motivates people to go from one thing to the other. Okay. Is that, ready for the next clip? I think so. I'm sure you act like shit.

He's talking about what. I could about imagine. But no, you want to come across like a kind of a cock sucker. Then be one, you Carl. dick riding twat hey Carl's got to fuck somebody

ain't fucking his wife he don't have time for that she doesn't like it I've told you that gotta fuck somebody ain't fucking his wife he don't have time for that she's just there to keep up appearances while

Adam Bush opens his gaping asshole for Carl's dick. Imagine you make Carl feel like a man. Hmm. By the way, I pay Jenny Jingles very handsomely for keeping up appearances. That is her main job. That's a beard, right?

There's the Jingles department, but, you know, that's been not going as well as it had in the past. That's a front. Yeah. I haven't been writing songs there for a long time. Right. See, this is, I just want to point out

that Rocco was like, hey, man, eat any good toast lately. Yeah. I sent him either You're doing a good job Have you been to a restaurant lately Or that's not what digress means It was one of those things

And he's like, okay, let's just like grape your entire family And even people that have nothing to do with this That aren't here This is how he repays them But if you want to You can pay him a dollar and say whatever you want And he will thank you for the privilege Oh, that's interesting

I'm Adam Bush I'm a loser, talentless Nothing fuck I just got to accept it So that's what you are Adam Bush Just keep it in your heart of hearts You stupid fucking bitch

Pizza shit I bet Dixon's You're a piece of garbage A piece of garbage That's what you've got to be known as Okay man Go fuck yourself So the super tip is

Pizza shit It's kind of funny name It is a good name I bet Dixon fucked foolish's face real nice I think currently is still dating Felician Kermick I think so right

He's still with her He believes so but everyone else knows they're not I see I see But he's still holding on But he's very upset with you for some reason And he thinks that Me having sex with you Makes me feel like a real man

I gotta say I'm actually embarrassed by it It's actually a point of shame for me As a heterosexual man We need to own our kinks. But you were in Buffy. You know, I just keep telling myself. This guy was at Buffy, you know? I sure was.

So there's that. So watch this guy stand on his morals and values in this next clip. Out of town, thugging with my rounds. My coochie pink, my booty hole brown, where the ninjas I'm looking for to hose quit playing. Ninja, come suck a bitch toes. Love my ninja. He just took a bitch down. He really eat me out.

Have you seen me dance to Michael Jackson girlfriend? My pussy hole is really brash. God, I love being accepted by a big old turbo dyke, like you sister girl. I got to love the A. That was the best part of that whole fucking super chat. But thank you Anonymous. It was the best part of it. It was that, I, yeah, the AII, uh, you know.

Yeah, we were there. Yeah, but ask him about toast. He's going to get real fucking pissed. I know. He's got his girlfriend. on there, which I'm surprised he has that as a voice on Supertip. Because people can say some real nasty things in his girlfriend's voice. Interesting.

But he claims to be always defending her. What really, really bothers me about him is that attack that a lot of people here do, which is that they don't do anything, they don't work on anything, they have no talent, and they shit on anyone for trying anything. Because as long as they don't try, then no one can make fun of them. So that's why he has a show about potatoes and just making guttural primal noise. until he passes out and shitting on anyone who tries. He was doing animal noises for a long time.

You see what I'm saying? He was trying to do all the different animal noises. Anyone was writing in. He was trying to do an impression of. Is this what sobriety looks like? I don't want any part of it. It's really what a lack of talent looks like. It's what a lack of skill looks like

because he thought he was getting somewhere with that koala. He's like, if I had a little more time, I could nail this and you'd all be impressed. Yep. Check out this next impression he does, and then we can get the fuck out of here. Oh, he's focusing on. Stuttering John.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Hey, Robin. Hey, Robin. I got to work on my Howard Stern. You got to work. Yeah. Go to work. Get a job.

What are you doing? He works in a town, or he lives in a town where there's only one place to work and he can't let go from there. So he doesn't know what to do with himself. I think he cashed out his 401K, so he has enough money to fly to his girlfriend city and hang out with her for a little while. But then I think he got a lot of his

money stolen from some kind of scam. So he might be in a tough spot. Because all the people that gave him money got it stolen. They gave him money for the show they were investing in. And he lied to them and took it and spent it all on his second flight ever to go see her. The exact person, everyone said he needed to stay away from. Finger Felicia's fishy flaps. I'm glad you have that on the board. You have one more clip I here. Do you want to play it or no? No, fuck it. Let's move on.

All right. Let's move on. We have our... Gringe of the week. Gringe of the week. This one comes in from Wien Pienerstein. He says, hey, Carl, remember the Daily Showa? It was this racist podcast.

He reviewed several years back with Kaya. Apparently, one of the hosts of the show, goes by Sven, is a listener of yours now. He's brought you and WTP up a few times before. The most recent was on a recent episode where he briefly brought you up talking about the Riyadh Comedy Festival. so thank you ween peenerstein for sending this in the show is now called the right stuff that biz and uh this was his take after he heard w at p so it was really weird to hear like like uh that guy carl from who are these podcasts suddenly like he he's a he's like a blue collar conservative dork pretty much it's it's not he's not really like strict in

principle but like blue collar if you see my soft hands you're a lot of things You're not blue collar. Very soft. He's a Marty McFly type. I've been told that. Where did I see that before? He's not really strict in principle. But, like, suddenly, he really cares about women's rights in Saudi Arabia.

And he's like, who do you, like, why are you going over there getting paid by that, by that government? Why are you getting paid by the government to do comedy over where they don't let women drive? And they have to wear it burqas. It's like, what do you suddenly care about that? Oh, you just vaguely dislike Muslim people and you just want to dunk on that. But it's like, vaguely. I want to repeal the 19th Amendment. I've made that very clear on this show.

And I also said that I would take anybody from the Saudi government. Someone's going to take it. So, oh for two. And then it was trying to hold, trying to go after Whitney Cummings because Whitney Cummings was a Me Too person. she cared about sexual assault or something and so like, whoa, you're going over there where they just, I guess, we're, I guess like, right toids kind of think, for all I know,

I haven't know if they're, like, in Riyadh, you just do sexual assault all the time. And there is no, they do, they do. There's no me too movement there. What a hypocrite? It's like, how much did they pay? Like, what do you care? Well, the Saudi government is definitely a bunch of weird perverts and shit like that,

like the, those are fakes and whatnot? That's for sure. But, like, it's like, are they? Or is that just something that people say, so you don't think the Jews are perverts. They can both be perverts. Okay. I like this ghost.

I'm just like, well, yeah, there's some wacky shit going out over there in Saudi Arabia, just FYI. Calm down. Yeah. You want to know. So that was a weird take. I'm pretty sure the only reason why we covered that, and I even said I didn't care about it, was just because of the way these comics are reacting is hilarious. They're melting down and losing their fan bases because they can't spain themselves.

They're intentionally missing the point They have to be It's very very clear And it really does I'm sorry It really pisses me off Because he said it He's like Whitney Cummings

You remember she She used to be a me too person That was the point That was the whole point Who has ever used to be You are or you're not For the most part If she changed

Then that's worth talking about And this Saudi gig would reflect that The hypocrisy is what we were pointing out On the show We enjoyed that quite a bit actually But I just Yeah so thank you for sending that in I listened to that. I was just like, holy shit, Sven, if he's listening to my show, he's not understanding what we're saying at all.

Mr. Magenta is a guy who's been around for a long time on this show, participates in our song parody contests over the years, always bangs him out. And we haven't heard from him in a little while, but he's paying attention and he's really following this Aaron Imholz segment. Oh, I should mention, I'm going to be on Lucy does dabble verse. I think this Friday night after this little piggy, breaking down, I don't know if anything. never done this before, we're going to break down the reason why Aaron's in jail right now, because Aaron is in jail right now, going back to, it actually all starts with Chrissy Mayer and Chrissy Mayer's dad. And we're going to go through the entire chain of events that led to Aaron Imholt being in jail.

So that's going to be a lot of fun. We'll be covering all of that. But first, Mr. Magenta has a new song parody called 15 Days in the Whole. It's a parody of a humble pie song. and this is about Aaron and his 15-day sentence. I've been giving cacks a squeeze, prison has been such a breeze. Gonna suck down, come, I'm cocking love guns, I'll be on my knees. And loud Italian

I'm telling you can sure smack you down You co-cate love at a shitty live show And now I'm jailhouse bound Fifteen days in the hole Another win for the toe Fifteen days missing goals And slam those cocks in my hole Don't worry, boys, I'll be back for the other 350 days after I fuck up my probation.

Seriously, why did I call Gino from jail? It's just jail. He's not getting butt raped. That's not what goes on there. People are having their fantasies about this. Why did he call Gino from jail? I don't know. man that was very funny

I think that was last week when we played I wanted to believe that Gino was just doing a bit because we'd never know wouldn't that be amazing? That would be amazing if Gino was that good at stuff Yeah I know I'd be impressed If you remember to wait to pretend

to be listening to the other person Thank you Mr. Magenta For the song parody Always appreciate those coming in And all right Let's get to it People are interested in it Let's talk about my buddy

Stuttering John Now, now, now, we're going to get into the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the ava stuff. We're going to get into the pro football arm wrestling championship stuff. But first, I want to talk about John is. Not going to take the L-Sat? Oh, yeah. He's announced his postponing, taking the L-Sat? He's got some good reasons, right?

I hope so. So this is, I believe this is from Tuky show, where Tuky is watching John talk about how he's not going to take, he was postponing the LSAT. We have an update on John and the LSATs. Sean, if you would play the Stutjo clip. I'm thinking I'm going to postpone my L-SAT. I got too much else going on with the DVR and figure out how to tape Jeopardy for Ma.

With the DVR. Okay. Let me explain this. So John signed up for the L-Sat. He wanted to take it in November, but he missed the deadline by one day. So he had to sign up for January. So now he's claiming he's got too much going on because, he's got to figure out the DVR.

Now, you might say, he must have misspoke. He didn't. He's trying to figure out how to stop it so that people can rewind or scrub behind on his live stream. Now, Patrick Melton does this. Nobody likes onions. Everyone who's watching is watching live.

Nobody's watching from an earlier time on the live stream. Why does John want to do this? I was on the phone with Vince for about an hour today and yesterday. We've been trying to out how to turn the DVR function off from Stream Yard going into YouTube. And we have not been able to come up with it. We tried for a while.

And I thank you, Vince, for trying to help me. But we just kept going and going and going. We could not figure it out. So if anybody does know how to do so, because then I could really take the Orange down from engaging in his nefarious activity. so if you can if anybody knows how to do it I have the

seek the advice from a few people who know but YouTube is so fucked up they change shit all the time and then I was watching some videos and one was with

a woman with a thick Indian accent I couldn't understand what she was saying and the other guy wasn't even speaking English so if anybody does know I will pay them

to show me because then I could strike at will. Who's will? So, John's whole thing, this is why he has to postpone the LSAP. So this is, you know, he's going to become a lawyer because he wants to help the little guy who can't afford large attorney fees because he's so concerned about those attorney fees and money. So he goes, he goes and signs up for the LSAP, which is the law school admissions test, so he can get into law school so he can become an attorney.

and he wanted to do it in November but then he pushed it back to January and now he has so much going on because he's trying to figure out how to make it so people can't rewind his show in real time. I watched today. He was on with Vince the lawyer and Ava.

I was watching a little bit before we started the show today. And he's figured it out. And the reason why he needed to do that is so he could strike it will. So he doesn't like that obnoxious John, our buddy O.J., has been sniping the stutterer. And so if you want to watch Stuttering John's show

and you want to not throw your fist through your phone or computer screen or however you're watching it, you watch him not just John watch it. It's the only way. But now John goes, oh, well, obnoxious John can like back it up a little bit and we'll know if I'm going to hit my copyrighted music. But if I can get to this new thing, whatever,

the non-DVR thing, he can strike a will. you just hit his little bumper song and then he can strike channels down because john's the good guy remember that's what you do you strike channels you go after people he try to ruin their their channels and stuff john's done that many times instead of becoming a lawyer and taking the legal right way and taking them to court and having justice on your side well that some truth came out today when i was watching that's why i brought this up adam because i'm watching him with vince today and they figured this out so vince is like way back on taking the lsat And John goes, yeah, I was reading about that.

And it says that you should study for six to eight months before taking the LSAT. And Vince goes, yeah, for like idiots, but you're so smart, man, which is great. I love the Vince is just like, no, no, no, man. You don't fucking ace it. Just go in January when you have the exam set up. Yeah, he said, that's for 20-year-olds. You're 60. You're going to be fine.

Yeah. You were watching, too. Mm-hmm. Through OJ. Thank you, OJ. Yes, thank you, OJ. Holy shit. It just never sounds being funny.

everything that's done our job never sounds being funny so we'll see now john's claiming that he is going to take the LSAT in january i have a feeling that he's going to find an excuse to not take it i think he's never going to take this exam because of course he didn't realize the amount of work that went into it and now that he's started studying quote unquote as he says probably should have researched this yeah before like bragging about how pocky's going to pay for all of your law school i've read your fees for the LSAT stuff I should be used to this by now, but what a flimsy excuse that he couldn't take it in January because of this DVR? Because he's got to figure out one thing that he hasn't had a hard time Googling so far. It's fucking late October, asshole. That's why when I was watching this, I was watching some Tuky last night, and then I was trying to get caught up today. And I'm like, this can't be real. This can't be really what he's talking about. And then it is.

Whoa. Then I got to figure out what to do these coat hangers behind me. Yeah. Got to put something on him. What do you hang him like in a closet of? something i'll google like i'll call Vegas beer sales jerry this could take a while call my attorney friend in florida

just so we're clear yeah when i appeared on john's show he said to me um are you good at the internet and stuff can i ask you some questions this was the only question he had he called me up after our interview and he said can you show me how to stop people from

rewinding it right and i was in a moral problem because i promised him i'd help him but i really didn't want to remove that function for everybody but I showed him and he did it and then I hung up with him and he started his live stream and he couldn't figure out how to do it anymore

So you are good at the internet and stuff I looked it up on AI and I also explained to him how he could just look it up on AI and he did not understand what I was saying He's a miracle Is the AI going to do it for me? No, but it'll tell you

instead of bothering me No, let's just stick with you. He's a miracle. I'm going to play you some clips So we're going to get into all this controversy with what happened between producer Joe Frog over the Shulay Network and Ava Riza and the big revelation that came out during Point Dabble Point. But everything that John talks about, he's constantly getting his friends involved. And he loves bragging about that. Oh, I sent this over to Dirty Deeds. And I sent it to Beer Sales Jerry.

And I even sent it to Social. Did you imagine being this asshole's friend? It's just constantly like, hey, look at what this guy. did to me today it's just like hi john i'm also having a fine day you know it's it's never what are you up to everything cool what's going on it's it's always just like what what's going on with him almost like a child like a child very selfish child so john um john of course is watching point dabble point so what i decided to do here if you haven't caught up on point dabbled point from uh this past monday it was on my channel and we had on

Earl David Reed, who people loved EDR on the show. Thank you EDR for coming on because he was at John's stand-up show that we were covering and he was hiding in the back. And then afterwards he went up and said hi to John. They got a photo together. Very gracious. You know, you know, nice things to say about John,

meeting him in person, but he had very interesting stories to tell. We had Lucy Typebox, we had Shulie, and then we had Ava Riza. The reason why I invited Ava Riza on is because I was watching her on John's show, claiming that, oh, they'll never have me on their show ever again because I come on and do your show and I went no that's not how we operate

people like to accuse me of just having being surrounded by yes men but I'm happy to have a conversation and a debate we've wanted a counterpoint for quite some time I've always talked about that we've we've asked Rob Saul to come on we've asked Clay Dabler to come on many times there's a fake quadfather we did have quadfather on Clay Dabler was a fake Clay Dabler was in the chat and I was like oh I sent him the link I DMed him the link right away I thought he was going to come on so we're always open to a counter discussion. I've also asked Aaron Imhol if I could come on his show or if he wants to come on

my show or whatever. I'm always open for these types of events. I think Chad dipped in one time. Yeah, we had Chad on. That's right. So Ava Riza makes this statement that, oh, well, Carl and those guys, Carolyn, surely, they would never have me on their show. So as soon as I heard that, I emailed her.

I go, oh, you want to come on point to out point? I eventually heard back. And she said, yep, great. So she came on the show. And this is John. So this is two hours into the show. And all of a sudden, this thing. comes up. So this is John watching

point, dabble points. You'll get the gist of what Ava said, and of course, John's reaction to it as well. I mean, y'all have said a lot of bad things about me, but I never read the exchange with mean frog about how you guys were trying to get me to secretly befriend John's trans son here and manipulate

them to get in that for you. Who said, who, Frog sent you a message? Oh, yeah, okay. Y'all said, can I call you? Get after a lot. And then he proposed that idea to me. And then when I didn't do it, you coincidentally stopped having me on the show. I don't recall any of this. First of all, I've never, hold on.

I've never once, yeah, I've never once included. We're going to get to Ed Schiles. Come on. But Carl, isn't that like, it's that interesting that they, yeah, that's why I said you should have led with that. They were like, where's this been? It sounds like Hava needs to come back. So, thank you.

Anyway, so there you have it. And yes, I have the text, and it's fucking, I mean. So this is John's show yesterday. Point out of Point Monday. This is his show Tuesday. And John keeps claiming, I have the text messages that show that Shui's producer reached out to Ava Riza and suggested that Ava tried to become friendly with John's trans son night. And on this show from yesterday, John keeps going, yep, I sent it to Vegas beer sales. I sent it to my attorney. I sent it to so-and-so.

and people in the chat are like, we'll show us the text messages. He's like, I don't need to show it to you guys, but I've seen it, which is weird because I've tweeted it. I have all the screenshots right here. We can go through and read what they are. So this is presumably producer Joe.

I'm pretty sure it is. I talked to him today on the phone. Can I call you? And she says, ha, sure, am I in trouble? He says, yep. And then you see about, eight minutes went by and then there's a link to an instagram account so now what was the date on that let's look at that so that's april 22nd fast forward to august 12th and aba says so what exactly is the deal

as far as shooley saying i have carte blanche to come on the show anytime i want a week or so ago in response to a super chat but that not actually being true that fucking punctuation people help us out come on and uh joe responds seven minutes later i think he means it when he says it but then doesn't want to bring a guest on it's not just you i've been trying to get on don jameson and lee sigh it on forever so she writes back it's not because i didn't do the thing with john's kid and he responds no i never mentioned that to those guys i don't think surely would have approved she says okay cool wait i thought you said that was his idea and joe says which thing are we talking about

seeing if you can find his kid and befriend him that wasn't Shulay's idea that's not his style okay so this is the text message and I believe all of this to be real and true I believe this is what

went back and forth between these two so fast forward to Ava calling into Tuki show last night this is fun because Tuky's covering this and Ava calls in so she explains what went on here and the idea is that in between that text message that says can I call you and then the link to Instagram there was a phone call where Joe says

hey do you think you could maybe become friendly with John's trans son I assume because she's trans and that's how that works I don't know could be a coincidence sure maybe talk about the same things maybe just think they'd be a good match I don't know any of that one wanted boobs one didn't want their boobs so yeah who knows you know opposites attract they both know where the store is

they both know where to get them that's true that's good point yeah I took mine into goodwill you took mine out of goodwill right we know this works so this is Ava calling in to Tuki soup last night uh hello

we just watched your video It's fantastic, and it actually shows that Shulie is innocent in all this. Well, I'm making the claim that there's a phone call that happens. And then when I brought it up a few months later, fraud was like, oh, shit. And then made that statement, and I would leave it up to your own judgment if you think fraud would call me and without talking to Shilly about that first. So, right. So the accusation that was made.

is that this is Shulie's idea, whereas you can see in that text thread, Joe saying, oh, I didn't even tell Shulie about that. He knows nothing about it. So that's not, if there's a reason why Shui was keeping you off the show, it's definitely not that. He doesn't even know that I asked you to do that thing, which, you know, she came on the show and said, accused Shulie of doing that. And it's like, if you look at the text thread, it looks like Shulie was completely in the dark on it. But now she's claiming that, no, Shulie definitely now.

Oh, okay, I get what's going on now. think, do you really, do you really think that's not Shulie's style? Hmm. If I'm really going to be honest, I, I mean, I don't think that Shulie would have told

him to try and get you to go undercover. But after what I saw Frog do at DabbleCon 2, when he was left to his own devices, I do believe that he could have came up with the idea. That was Vinnie's fault, sir. And when, so what the, what the describing here? Yeah.

is when Kevin Brennan was sniping our stream, our pay-per-view stream, Joe's brilliant idea was to show shit porn and someone screaming the N-word. And a lot of people who purchased, I mean, there was a reason for it that happened to John on his stream, but a lot of people who purchased the stream were kind of offended by that. There was also something about offing our current president. It was wild. It got a little wild. So I thought that was fun.

You don't hear Tuki talk seriously very often. Tooke's just like, well, you know, I don't know that Shulie would want, you know, anyone to go after John's kids or befriend his kids, it seems out of line, considering Shulie has young children and stuff. We wouldn't want family involved in stuff. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's like, I want to keep making these

jokes, but now we're accusing people of real crimes, and I want to keep making these jokes. Yeah. Tukes doing whatever he could do. He always lands on the right side there, which I appreciate. Now, on point to apple point. The story gets crazier. I hope I'm presenting this well. I don't think I am.

On point demo point on Monday, Ava claimed, not only did she have the text messages, but she also has the phone call recorded from Frog. And so that's like a big thing. Like, oh, are you going to release the phone call? And so OJ, actually, thank you, OJ. OJ is legally recorded. I'm not going to get into that.

Okay. And John is going to go with that to make himself, now he's in favor of a legal record. It's okay to show people's text or it's I'm having a hard time I know Adam I can't figure out But thank you OJ for asking this question Thank you OJ

Why aren't you going to release the phone call I'm not commenting on the phone call And they have my permission to release it So you're saying this The phone call you have a recording of the phone call I'm not commenting on whether I have it or not well you already said that you had it recorded

she said that I'm playing devil points that she had the recording oh I know and I'm changing I'm changing yeah OJ let her change her mind she's changed her mind about way bigger things than this yeah don't worry baby

I was drunk on on that show by that point and yeah so I just impulsively said that yeah leave her alone OJ she was drunk don't worry that's weird I was surprised by that because I didn't see her drinking no she turned off her camera a few times because she said her cat was unruly but the show is 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. on the west coast and the cat seemed fine hmm interesting so she said that she had the phone call recorded baby touki will protect you

I'm not saying I do or don't. I just don't have a statement on this phone call. But they have my permission to release the call because there's no way he didn't record it. And I actually know that he recorded it. She knows that he recorded that. Could you imagine? I've talked to Frog on the phone many times.

I highly doubt he's recording our phone calls. Seems like a lot of, like a waste of time. Would you be able to know if he was? No. If he didn't tell you? Yeah. So how does she know? The only time I know is when I'm calling customer support.

And they say this phone call, maybe recorded for quality assurance purposes and future training. And Joe doesn't say that, huh? Just never said that when I've called it before. They should go wild and release the call. And if there's a call. But so you're saying, if there is a call, there's definitely, we will definitely either here or not here, shooley bring up this idea? Will the phone call answer all our questions about whose idea this was?

I'm making the claim that people just don't like me and don't want me to have this. And so they're just going to say, oh, well, the call is the way to find out. I would argue if you objectively look at the text exchange is exactly the way that I described. Ava was doing this on point-devil point-two, where she was saying stuff that didn't make any sense. and then she's mad at us for not figuring it out. Well, people just don't like me, so they're going to say that the call is the way to figure it out. What?

She said we don't want her to have this. They don't want me to have this. Have what? Have what? Do you have the phone call? Does it implicate Chulay or not? She doesn't know what to do. She has never gotten this much attention.

I know. I think that's what the problem is here. There's way too much attention. And I just want to say I posted last night, Well, early this morning, actually, I posted the video clip of us reviewing John's stand-up from Saturday night, the show in Pennsylvania that EDR attended. And I pulled mostly crowdwork stuff, things that aren't in his normal set. We don't need to hear the squeegee joke again. But I posted it up on the, and there was a guy there who recorded it the audio for me.

There's another guy recorded the video for me. So I was able to overlay actual photos of John performing stand-up over the show. stand-up clips took me a while i did a lot of editing last night not the point the point is i posted this video and i was getting a lot of thumbs down on it which i get thumbs down on videos before but not suddenly jodd videos people seem to really like those and i was like oh that's weird really had a 90% like rate which is very low for john stuff so i clicked into the comments like what are people saying did i fuck this up did i edit it wrong everyone hates ava people just despise Ava and it makes sense she sucks yeah she sucks yeah she sucks and she has no credibility

and she's not a genuine person because she talked all sorts of shit about john and then she comes on point-dale point and says shooley's a worst person than john could ever be and talks all this shit so it's just like all right so you're all this way or all that way we can talk about shulie's floss we can talk about john's floss she can't she can only talk about one of the other, depending on the year, the date, that we're talking about it. So it's not much of a counterpoint, really. No, it kind of sucked. And I was, that's what is illuminated me.

I was reading through these comments, I'm like, oh, everyone just fucking hates. So they're mad at you. I get it, man. Yes. I get it. I saw a lot of people saying never have her out again. Yeah. A lot of the people on our Patreon.

A lot of that. Yeah. You're probably putting together internet news, so you saw. Was there always this hatred for her or did it just happen after Point Dabblepoint? well that's a good question because as I mentioned previously in this episode there was a lot of support for Ava yeah she was embraced by the uncle Rico show shilly network point dabble point people were praising her music and checking that out but there were a faction of people on the fence and I think this brought that to a boil but then she's been like on John show a lot like there isn't a more prominent co-host on John show in the last few weeks than Ava risa she's always getting the call to be on the show and when you never challenge John, people get frustrated. People like Vince the lawyer on the show because Vince challenges John. Clay Dabler has been challenging John more often, so they like that.

But Ava, and I brought this up on Point, Dadwell Point. You know, John just claims I sent Tommy Jordan and whatever his name is to his show to harass him. You did. Motherfucker. You're all one. You're all just one collective. Anyway, it was fun having. We would send someone competent.

It was fun having Adam on the show. while he was here and there was much rejoicing so uh but yeah that was the that was like one of the examples of like you know you're letting this guy just say shit and you never push back so people don't like that so the question to came into john on tuesday is avarise it was on point dabblepoint nasty neal was on point dabble point and john never let him hear the end of it yep so wanted an apology from he needed an apology from nasty neal so the question is will John be upset with Ava? Will he need an

apology? But John Rinkle, you're going to make Ava apologize for pointless battlepoint? No. I'm not pinky. I don't dictate where they can go. The Neal thing was a little odd for me

because it was like it was reminiscent of Adam of stabbing the back bush. So that's why. I felt a little, quote-unquote, betrayed by it. He's been burned in the past.

It's hard to love again. That was such a weird answer. I'm not like Kevin Brennan. However, I did reprimand nasty Neil for going on. But it reminded me of, like, when Adam Bush, when I'm playing dabble point, which is, John, the revisionist history for John is insane. Because you, I remember your appearance on John's show very well. and you go and john goes so what are you a fan like who are these podcasts and the shulis show and and you go yeah i watch all in a chat i can't get enough i love the devil verse i'm all in

and jones like oh okay okay and then he appears on the shows that he was saying that he loved and he appreciated and john like this fucking guy stabbed me in the back it's even worse than that it took him months he they tried to egg him with that and be like doesn't that annoy you and he's kept saying over and over again that guy can do whatever he wants i don't own people that's Kevin Brennan. He's the guy that does that. He's a free agent. That's what he said. Then, you know, Vince worked on him for a while. They did a really good job and just got him to just snap. And now he can't remember why. But it brings up a very, the only point I really want to make here, which is that it's such bullshit to be pretending like any of this even matters if Shulie knew or if he didn't. We've made it very clear whether he knew or not we're just going to do the same thing. Anyway, you're telling me once there's a distinction that he did or didn't know with Frog, everyone's going to ease off of that. The whole thing with Karmic, somebody asked him, what is your real problem with Adam and Carl? Like, those people haven't done anything.

And all he could come up with was, we have done shows with the Shulie Network. And if you can support a person like ISO, he's like, I just can't support that. I don't have time for that. That's really bad. It's like, oh, okay. So we're implied. But you're going to give Shulia pass on whatever this shit is once you get definitive proof? No, you're not.

It doesn't matter. Yeah, that is the problem with trying to figure out why you don't like people. that you have no reason to not like or you want to be enemies with is because there's going to be a lot of things you're like, yeah, but this person did this thing and you're okay with that and then you've got to explain yourself but it's like it's just a lot of work.

It's not worth it trying to figure out your justifications for dumb shit. So it gets brought up again because I don't think vagina wrinkle got the answer that vagina wrinkle needed. Why would John not be upset with Avaiza even though Ava was on? is in enemy's territory on point dabblepoint and john explains

but john wrinkle yelled at neil for pointless babble point and mLC mLC when did i yell at mLC but not i think jesus john so stupid no nasty deal also wanted miserable's company duh you didn't yell at mLC you yelled at nasty deal for going on these shows where people make fun of you the real vagina wrinkle is right there in the middle of his forehead. I'd fuck the shit out of that. Like it was Tuki. Like Rocco fucking Tuky's mouth.

I think it was the way around. I think Pinky yelled at me. Got it. People change. People grow. And I change. I grow. Wow.

So now the answer is, just a few minutes later. I'm a person. He's explained he's involved as a human being. And that's why. why he's okay with Ava coming on the show and wasn't okay with nasty deal because he forgot the other bullshit answer that reminded him of Adam Bush.

Yeah, this is much easier. He's so stupid. So is he going to... Is this evolution that we've witnessed? Is this going to maintain that? He's going to be okay with people doing shows of his enemies? I think it's going to last until the end of that sentence. Oh, fuck, because I was going to say,

if Clay Daffler wants to come out, play Della play it. Well, that would be nice. We'd love to have them. Yes. That'd be amazing. It's about fucking time. But, uh, I mean, John has grown as a person, and Clay, so it's fine.

You can come on, defend your boy. Oh, but now that he knows how to turn off the DVR, he's got to go back to studying for the LSATs, because that's all. He does, and he has to strike at will. Right. Let's not forget that. He's going to

take obnoxious John down. All right, so John is now a victim. He's so excited about this. This is the greatest information that's ever happened for him. If anyone thinks that John's upset about this, he is so excited. He's like, whoa. Someone reached out to Ava and told her to reach out tonight.

This is amazing. I am a victim in all of this, and it just proves that the devil versus a bunch of meanie beginis. They were really? Really? They were talking about my kids, for real? Yeah, they're going, oh, my God. There was a link to an Instagram page and everything.

It's wild. So, so John's very excited about this. I sent Dr. Steve that link of Abba. Really saying what, I mean, we all knew he's a scumbag. why did you send it to Dr. Steve? He has nothing to do with any of this. This is the crazy thing. And I feel very bad for my buddy, Steve,

because he had to change his phone number because of this retard. And John just keeps sending him shit. John's so upset about the money we've raised to our GoFundMe. And thanks again to Steve. And thank you to everyone who's donated money to our GoFundMe, Fight thedabler.com. It's been incredible.

The support has been incredible. And John sees that. number, it's over $33,000. And he thinks that should be his money. He wanted Shulian and I'd have to pay out of pocket for an attorney over this frivolous, ridiculous lawsuit. He never thought

he was going to get the money. If he thought he was going to get $600,000, which turned into $850,000, he wouldn't care if he raised $33,000. What's the difference? He's going to get $850,000. He knows he's not getting shit. And he wanted just to, do you want to Shulian me to have to pay out of pocket

ridiculous amounts of money for attorneys to defend ourselves. He's acting like he already lost. He is. And Dr. Steve has nothing to do with any of this. No. And now John is trying to harass Dr. Steve over this, which is not going to get you anywhere. And I don't, talking to John is pointless.

Stop harassing Dr. Steve, man. It's not going to help you out at all. People are going to turn on you even more so than they have. I mean, I can't imagine anyone aligning the. themselves with someone who's harassing and fucking with Dr. Steve. It's just not a good look. It's not a good move. A quick note.

Yeah. I think John knows how nice Steve is. Yep. And that's why he's trying so hard to get anybody on his side, especially Steve. He just wants to keep throwing, like, evidence as to why you should feel sorry for him. You know what? That's not even that. There's something to that.

but John thinks that Steve has $33,000. I swear to God, John sees the dollar amount on that page. He sees Dr. Steve's name. He's blinded by it. And he's like, Dr. Steve, can you give me that $33,000? Like, he literally thinks that he is owed this money and that he can get it from Dr. Steve, which he can't. Dr. Steve has no access to it. I don't have any access.

She doesn't have any access. It goes right to our attorney's firm. All of it's gone right to our attorney's firm. Yes. But that is what John thinks. I've gotten on good information from people that this is burning him up inside that that money's not his. I also think he's having a tough time. I think you're right, Chris.

He does know that Steve is a good guy. I think he's having a hard time processing that Steve might not be on his side. Like he thinks these two things go. He's like, but you like me. We're friends. How could you do that? You must be ill-informed. I'll keep sending you shit or convincing you.

He'll see the light of day as I just keep doing. this and he'll, he must be mistaken. He can't comprehend that not just Steve, but everyone, every single person involved donated. Yes. Yeah, I mean, that's, Steve set it up and there was a lot of work and I appreciate that he did that, but. Did you reach out to him first or did he reach out to you first?

There seems to be a lot of controversy about us. He reached out to me first. He was on Jay Hudson today. I see Jay Hudson in the chat. Steve reached out to me multiple times asking how he could help. As soon as he saw this lawsuit, he was just like, oh, this is fucked up, Carl. How can I help you out? And as I mentioned before, he made a couple generous offers, and I said, well, let's do something for both Shulie and me, because we're both co-defendants in this.

So that's why we chose to go fund me. It made the most sense so that we could both, you know, we're splitting our legal fees as it is. All right. So, John is very excited to share this new victimhood that he has with his buddies, as I mentioned earlier. Text to, uh, let's just say a few people. Okay. One of them being Vegas beer sells, Jerry,

and he was equally as repulsed as I was. And they could fucking try and fucking paint this as like somehow it's because of this and that. Fuck off. All right. And I'm glad you're laughing at that because that's what John would do. If John was caught sending a text message to someone like,

hey, find out this information about this guy, which he does all the time. time, but if that were to come out, he would come up with reasons why, well, it's okay when I do it because they did this thing to me or they did that thing. My mom's picture was behind them, all those episodes. There's K. Y. Jelly, therefore, I'm allowed to do this. Shuling them don't operate that way. That's not how they're defending themselves.

I also love how it's his, my cousin Vinnie fantasy, where he just like saddles up to the judge and he goes, come on. Fuck off. All right. You got it. You got it. I know. It's great.

So, yeah, I love what he talks about how he sent it to a buddy of his, and his buddy also reacted the same way that he did, is if that justifies everything. It's always like Vegas beer sales, Jerry also saw the MP3 of my book on Patriot. So there's proof. That holds water. That's it. That's all you have to know.

He also was repulsed by this thing. So there you go. So we should be repulsed. Right. But this is the best. I'm going to play this is a very short clip. Remember, John loves being a victim. This is his favorite thing in the world.

He's a cry bully, and this is, maybe he's talking about Shulie acting. This is maybe overacting a little bit. Like, I was in shock. I truly was in shock. So this text message that got sent where nothing happened and no one ever reached out to Knight Melendez and nothing happened to your family and no one even knew about it until Point DeV Point on Monday that this even happened was shocking to you. and your shock over it. Like literally nothing has happened to him or his family.

They're making a big deal about it. I know I'm covering this quite a bit. So I didn't, you know, I wanted to talk about this because this is the only content I've had a show right now. So we have to cover it. But literally nothing happened. Why is he so ashamed of Ava? Like anyone that's on his show,

he's like, you have to be best friends with my mother. You have to meet my brother. Kate, you're going to love my brother-in-law. Yeah. Mom and Richard O'Heda, the whole thing. like, why can't Ava and your kid be friends? Do you want to know the truth, Adam? Can I tell you the truth?

Please. It's because John hasn't spoken to his trans son in years. Come on. And he doesn't want anyone to know that. Because it's embarrassing that he's a terrible father who's lost connection with his children. But he would do anything for his kids, including stop drinking if they asked. No, actually. No, no.

He hasn't done any of those things. Oh, okay. Isn't that crazy? Very publicly. So then he brings out Obvi. He's complaining this whole episode. Like, where's Ava? I said to the lake.

Why is it Ava on here? So finally, she's probably drinking. So finally Ava shows up on the show. And John explains when he was watching Ava on Point Dabble Point, how he felt about that. Ava really fucking stuck it to them on Pointless battlepoint. And, you know, I haven't been able to watch because I, I'm sorry. I have such a hard time dealing with snagletooth and shit waves. voice, shitway's arrogance and pompous attitude just drives me completely insane.

I love this. John's like, hey, you're going to give Ava shit? No, no. Why would I give her shit? I didn't even watch it. This is like the one thing where John could be watching this, taking notes, pulling clips, doing this whole thing, and instead he's like, I can't, I couldn't watch it. Fucking lazy, man. So lazy.

He can't be bothered. to watch the thing that is going to propel his show for whatever the narrative is for the next however many days. He doesn't feel obligated to monitor and protect his kids from whatever horrible things they're saying over there? No, I guess not.

That's weird, right? All right, so then John, of course, has these text messages that I showed earlier that Ava posted on her Twitter, and he's sending that out to everyone. I have my permission to show him if you want to. No, I'm going to wait. Okay.

Because they already have gotten to the people that I need to get them to. I think you can read between the lines when I say that. I guess so, okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, but they are real. And I know that Vegas beer sells, Jerry. I sent them to him. I sent it to my lawyer in Florida, who also was freaking amazed. So I know John's not an attorney yet.

But I am curious how you connect the dots. between producer Joe sending a text message to Ava and a right of publicity case in New York State. I'm a little confused as to what those two things have in common and why he would have to send that to his attorney and Vegas. Because in the court of public opinion, they're all going to agree, not cool. Yeah, you know what? You're right. These guys are jerks. He really is that stupid, too.

And the fact that he's like, oh, boy, this case is blown wide open now that I have these text messages. John doesn't even know what he suit us for. He still has no idea what it is. He's no clue. I wish you would read through the complaint. He should. It's fucking wild. It's crazy.

He doesn't know why he hates me. He doesn't know. It's just made up stuff. Well, he introduced you to Howard Stern, therefore you owe him for the rest of your life. I did. I went on a show. And then I helped him. learn how to work the rewind thing.

You did do those things. Which freed him up to become the lawyer he is today. Because if I had to show to him that, that many years ago, he'd still be working on it. All right. So, Adam, you've been watching John's pro football arm wrestling championship. And this is fascinating because for so long, John's been bragging about this credit. He loves to hold this over mine and Shulie's had where he says, listen, I was the host of this CBS. show nationally televised CBS show as the host I was the head writer I produced it and he

loves to say it had high ratings and it was this great show and we finally got copies of it so we can see what it was and before we could even show it John started backtracking on all of that he's like ah well you know I didn't really want to be the host they brought me as the writer and then when I was scoping it out they're like we need you to host I reluctantly said I guess you'll throw me some bucks I'll do that so the whole thing changed and we played last week the first correspondence piece in episode two where John's on Fremont Street asking people if they want to do we want to arm wrestle and he's setting up this arm wrestling but should we start there or do you want to move past that I mean if being played again yeah

I think that's the move it's the best so yeah this is one of the best bits so John that's the other thing too John goes I wasn't really the host I was just a correspondent like he's changed his tuned. I thought he was the host that ran the show and wrote the show. He wants to make fun of us for making a big deal out of this hunk of shit. He just can't say those

words. Right. Yeah, he can't say like, yeah, it sucked, but it did. It's also not a comedy. He says he's a comedy writer. There are no written jokes in the entire thing. Hold out a second, Ed. I think there's one example. Are you talking about Little Mr. T?

No, well, no. Because I think he came up with that line. Little Mr. T's great. He comes up again later on. Oh, good. But there's one example of something that I guarantee John wrote. Okay. That's in the show. Let's see if we can spot it.

Yeah. In Las Vegas, the saying goes, what happens here stays here. And arm wrestling is what's happening. Hey, this is Stuttering John Melendez here down on Fremont Street in Las Vegas. When to get some people to arm wrestle, settle some differences. Let's do it. Who's next? He'd be one to arm wrestle.

Arm wrestle. Husband versus white. Brother versus brother, son versus father. What, you think he's going to win? Just because he's big it than you? Uh-huh. It's set, go. Oh, we're pretty, no!

Wow, you are a natural, brother. You're going to be okay with the oxygen? Oh, yes. So how do you feel you think you're going to win? A pity food. Of course I'm going to win. Look at her. She is.

Isn't that interesting. Someone pointed this out. We play this clip of Little Mr. T saying, I pity the fool. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, John's talking about copyrighting his stand-up. He's like, I pity the fool. fool who plays my stand-up. He has said that multiple times.

John watches everything. John's watching our show. Every guest that, every Stephanie Miller episode we watched, he would steal things that were said during that episode and would come up during his show. Stand here. Look at the focus and determination. You are strong, man.

On your mark? No, you're alone. Get said, go. Not like, let's the road. She did. She did. When we return, the battle begins. So did he write the thing where a woman beats him in arm wrestling?

Pretty good stuff. No, he wrote his hilarious reaction of doing and saying nothing afterwards. Yeah, just making a face like, oh, golly G. I sure was humiliated out there. Had a microphone in his hand, a brilliant comedy writer, and he couldn't get the two to work together. Good stuff, Jeff. Real good.

He goes, oh, fuck off. That would have been funnier. Run right to three. Okay. It's all places you expect to see John announcing the players or the rules or running the show, and he is not. We're reduced to this voiceover. That keeps coming out. Easy win there for Dewey McDonald.

Dway was there to take care of business. As soon as that referee told him to go, match was over with less than one second. So the Silver Team scores first with that big win by Dewey McDonald. Our second matchup, just in March of the Silver Team, against Beanie Wells of the goal. Something is happening here that you might miss if you're not paying attention to episode one from episode two. So this is the second episode. It aired Saturday, Sunday on a weekend in the summertime on CBS in the afternoon. In episode one, they all go to this theater in the MGM.

I think it's the Cirque to Soul A Theater. And there's no one there. It's just the football players arm wrestling, and it's weird. It's weirdly lit. It's a big open space with a crowd of guys all just in this one little area. On this episode, they're arm wrestling, and there's people sitting in seats, and they're clapping, and I think they're piping in additional crowd noise, making it seem like there's more people. They couldn't even get people to professional football players.

They couldn't get people off the street in Vegas, which Vegas is one of those places where there's people milling about. They do tons of screenings for. test shows. It happens all the time in Vegas. People love it. Hey, come in and watch this sitcom, this pilot that we have, and let us know what you think. And they couldn't get anyone to fill this theater to watch professional football players arm wrestle. Finally, in this episode, there's a few people in there watching it, making it seem like it is a production. There's something going on. Do you like football? Yeah. Do you like arm wrestling?

Not really. Sir? Sir. Yeah, exactly. There's a difference between the studio. audience and this these people would have to get paid and they couldn't afford it. They had like I guess one day with background where they shot that opening stuff where John was yelling at them and then for the rest of the actual thing where they needed shots they couldn't afford to keep background actors and pay them the whole day. So they just went without it. Use the one day they could. You can't just let random people they could get hurt. They could leave and then it looks different. So it's about money. That's all it is. And that's why John's doing a little more. This thing runs out of sound. money, ideas, and then just stops. It's crazy. It's crazy, yes. So we learned on the last episode. There were three total episodes of this, and the last one never aired.

It did so poorly, the first two, they're just like, all right, scrapping, who cares? That was paying attention. No one gives a shit. It's not supposed to be in this big competition to find out who's going to win the heavyweight art wrestling championship. And no one ever finds out. So then we go to go-karts. Now, this was teased on the last one where they're going to be bowling, they're going to play go-carts they got top golf all these different things they're doing is extracurriculars because arm

wrestling is boring as fuck yes so they got to find other things to do with these guys and so you would think this would be john's time to shine you know he's going to make it with the waka waka we're going to go to the go-car place and i'll be cracking wise while these guys are doing their thing this is the extent of john's segment I'm from New York So I know how to do this stuff Each team is going to have a practice That was it

John puts out a helmet He says he's from New York And you can see it They're like who should read the instructions I don't know fucking that guy That guy you Yeah anyone So John is

You know I think you had it in your notes He's just a clown Everywhere he goes He's just a stunt boy Howard Stern knew it Jay Leno knew it and it's fine and there's nothing wrong with that

he's still in show business there's that old joke about the guy at the circus who's clean up the elephant shit after the show and he's scooping up these giant piles of elephant shit and the boy comes up

he goes hey mister why you do it why wouldn't you leave this job he's like what quit show business he's in show business it's just not as glamorous as John's pretending than it is I know I butcher that joke

You guys don't There's a better version With the Duke Ellington Orchestra Walking through the snow And they see the family, right? How do you live like that? It's an old time God damn it

Getting one-off to by my co-host now You need professionals I do Can I still point up That's saying in the chat That John said He can't remember If this was SAG or not

The former announcer from the Tonight show Doesn't do non-Sag gigs There is no like if it was If it wasn't he couldn't do it Because he's a SAG member And if he did do it, then that's why he's not in the union. John breaks some rules sometimes when there's money involved. That's why his agency fired him because he took a gig without telling them so that he'd have to pay them the 10%.

And they're like, oh, you can't do that. So that's why they fired him. So who knows? He still doesn't understand that. He thinks he was wronged. Yeah, of course. All right. So now we go to another correspondence piece.

I believe John's back on Fremont Street. What's your name? Miranda. And where are you from Miranda? Alabama. Roll Todd. What's your name? Benny D.

You're a smile. How are you hot? Come, let's go do this. Bark and set, go. Oh, come on. Roll tide. Roll tide. Roll tide.

Oh. Ah. Watch his high five. Oh. And they left it in. They left John missing the high five with Minnie T. We did 40, and that was the best take we had. Oh, man.

That was as exciting as I got with John on Fremont Street. They had a little midget, Mr. T. impersonator, arm wrestling some redneck from Alabama. Most people from Alabama are great, by the way. That's not the point I'm making at all. Okay. The real fun is not even in what John does. It's what he doesn't do.

You can see how they were just shooting. We don't know who's going to be the star anymore. We're just going to shoot and shoot and whatever looks good. You can see how Little T, they like him. He's good. Let's keep using him. Yeah. And how John is just disappearing.

Mini T should list this on his resume as a credit. He's too embarrassed. He would never. He only does comedies. All right. Where do you want to go next, Adam? Right to the next one. All right.

So we got two heavyweights on the silver team. And we're going to have the first two picks at the gold squad. After that's done, the gold team can sort out who they're going to put to the table. Howard Jones of the silver team that's called out, Jamon Brown from the goal team. They're just filling time. Yeah, skip this. He just announced this and then the next one. Yeah, so he starts doing play-by-play.

That I like. Yeah, this is more play-by-play. That wins, but wait a second. The rep is calling, saying there's a foul here. Come back to the table. Back to the table. All right, looks like they're going to do it again. Wow.

They must be exhausted from that one. So the referee called an elbow foul there. That match does not count. They're going to do that one again. They both had an elbow foul. Jones looks totally determined here. It was a great match, guys. Keep it up.

He loved this, huh? He's got the eye of the tiger. Thumbs in real tight. Thumbs in real tight. Close your hand. Close your hand. You guys both good. How about you?

Here they go. Oh, ho. It's tight. Jones. And this time, no foul. Winner. Next match. Next up to the table, we've got a barrow bowman of the silver team going up against the gold team's Glenn Bruncowski.

So are we to believe that he's actually calling this in real time? I mean, wouldn't this voiceover work be done post? We're supposed to believe that, but it sounds clearly in post. But, so listen to this fuck-up that they leave in there. Wait a second. The rep is calling, saying there's a foul here. The rep is calling it, saying there's a foul here. But there's no way he wouldn't just re-record fuck-ups.

They thought it gave it excitement. That was as close. They kept saying, like, excited, excited, and he can't. And that was as close as he could get to some. Best take. Yep. It really was. And you're right.

He is recording this afterwards. It's not what he does in this. It's what he doesn't do. It's the fact that he's there, like, in that room with those people. And we'd rather not show you. No, we haven't seen him there. Right, but he is there. He's always there.

Yes, he's the guy. He's the host. Check this out. John is actually there. We've been watching all these art wrestling matches. We assume he's not there because you don't see him at all. And watch this. Now it's time to separate the men from the boys.

First up for the goal team, Big Beanie Wells versus James. Resort. Step to the mic, son. What the fuck? John's been there the whole time. And even when you show him on camera, he doesn't have the microphone. I know.

Bart Scott does. Can I please have my mic back? It's crazy. Also, do you mind just showing him again? I want you to look at two things. His hairline and his mouth when other people are talking. Okay, yeah. Let's watch this.

Yeah, he really does like bald air. And short. He looks like they're auctioning him, him off. It's like a reverse. self. First up for the goal team, Big Beanie Wells versus Jayley Reesha.

Step to the mic, son. Now it's time. Yeah. He's always mouthing what other people are doing. Which is what dumb people do. Brought this up last time. Bird Kreiser does it? I skipped ahead a little bit.

You want to back up for a clip or two, Adam? Oh, no, keep going. It's all this. It's all, this is it. There's no, like, big, you know, banana moment. It's just him dissipating slowly from this thing until the whole piece itself doesn't

even exist anymore and they don't finish the show. What's crazy is, you know, John keeps coming. He's the head writer. But all of his voiceover work on this is just like, oh, he looks determined and oh, when he wins. Oh, and this guy wins. He won that one. Like the commentary is terrible.

How much of the city's scrap? Oh, that sucks. Yeah, right. We heard John read his book. We listen every second of that. Yeah. Who would hear that? I mean, that was obviously after this. Who would hear that be like, we need this guy to do voiceover work. He's so bad at it. This is a production that was shut down that didn't finish filming, but they had an obligation to investors to just complete. So they got John afterwards to not get paid, but to read this voiceover. And they did two things. They said, we're just going to watch it. And you just riff. And you can hear when it's that. And they said, okay, we're going to have to write you some lines to get from A to B. Then they wrote him that. And he's just terrible at all of it. Yep. You can tell he's reading a lot of this.

So this is John back to arm wrestling on the street. Home wrestling here. We got arm wrestling here. Come on, anyone, arm wrestle. Arm wrestling, anybody want arm wrestle? Arm wrestling here. Arm wrestling here. I've lost.

Did John write that? Arm wrestling here. Arm wrestling here. Is anyone on arm wrestle? Arm wrestling here. John, we want you to go out and tell people what we're all about. Is it? It's arm wrestling?

Yes, but where is it? Here. Got it. I've lost to everybody today, and I feel very bad about myself. So I think this time, this time I'm finally going to win. Are you ready? So now he's arm wrestling a young girl and child. This is the comedy that John brings.

Look at that face, too. He probably wrote this. As already said, he overacts on the movie poster. Ready? What an asshole. Well, come on. You got to admit the funny bit is to beat the young girl, right? But the, he...

No, she should win and he punches her. Yes. Thank you. Fuck you, bitch. I knew if he threw it around the horn, we'd come up at something good. We're back here at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and our light, heavyweight final match is set.

Beanie Wells from Team Gold against Dewey McDonald's from Team Silver and Dewey McDonald's has a background in arm wrestling and he's used that to his advantage as he's powered his way to the finals. What a natural delivery. I know. What a perfect dream that was. It feels like I'm watching nationally televised content right here when I hear that. He's terrible at everything.

He's not great. Do you want to skip over to episode three? Yeah, sure. At this point. Okay, so that was episode two. But just so we know, just so we're clear. Yeah. The sound, at some point on this recording, just goes out, like 50 minutes in.

It's gone. And that's what CBS sent, which is another sign that they didn't really air all of this. Right. I think that's probably true. So now we get a recap when episode three happens. Now, no one's ever seen this. This has never aired on television, according to Inside Sources. Previously on Pro Football, I'm Wrestling Championship.

32 professional football players descended on lovely Las Vegas, Nevada. Welcome to the MGM Grand. And after splitting into two teams, gold and silver, they learned the sport of arm wrestling from two of the best in the business. Our goal is to teach you as much as we can't do that. The way you're going to beat a guy

is by pulling him across the table. All the way down that way. That's what I'm talking about right there. The competition began at MGM Grand's Ka Theater with the light heavyweight play. The best of the matches featured at end intensity these guys usually reserved for the football field. Featured a what? Hold on.

I got to hear that. Yeah, did you just stumble over that? Let me hear that again. The best of the matches featured in intensity, these guys usually. An intensity. I need Engie. What's it at intensity? I'm not even sure what that is.

Should I do another take on that? Who cares, John? That's fine. We got it. We're good. Usually reserved for the football field There's disrespect In the end, four light heavyweights

Each from Team Gold and Team Silver Advance to next week's quarterfinals Today, the competition moves on to the big boys, the heavyweights. I mean, no one could possibly care about this. No. None of this is, it's compelling or exciting. That's not even John's fault.

It's a really ill-conceived. No one involved gives a fuck. It's such an ill-conceived idea of a show. It does the ASMR of what people want in like sports infotainment or whatever this is like what you'd watch on the plane

like that's just there and you put it on and I'll look at Vegas. It does that visually. Of course. It just like John was such a piece of shit at heart like such a lying, cheating, union busting piece of shit at heart that they couldn't air all of it. I think they might have, it might say it aired

the last episode but due to least issues they couldn't it's just what was listed and then they played something else and the rating is listed for this check out the next one yeah so they go to a top golf that was another thing that was teased and so here's just another like extracurricular like hey let's get the guys out there and maybe something funny will happen oh and john's there he's a comedian you just can't wait to get points from anywhere man get out of here oh he's angry so john is going to watch these two guys play ping pong and listen to the brilliant commentary coming off the top of the dome from comedian, professional comedian, John Melendez.

Bart serves. Oh, there we go. A nice little curve. Oh, wow, bought. Oh, Bart's good. Good job. I still like you shorts. Ping pong, champion of the world here in Vegas.

For Scott. What the fuck was that? They couldn't fix that at all. I was like, whoa, hey, oh, whoa. And we already know who won, so why does he have to go through that? I know you tell both guys are just like, what are we doing? I just like holding hands. I just want to touch someone.

one for once. He's not even holding his hand. He's resting him with his wrist. Yeah. It's weird. It's very weird. Yeah, I really liked that because when I first got all of these, I was scrolling through and you see him come out at the beginning on stage, all dressed in, with a microphone.

And by episode three, he's reduced to what he always is sitting on the sidelines, shouting, ooh, ooh, which are the same things he says when he's roasting us and watching. Yeah, it's the same bit. Right, right. Yeah, he's got nothing. Oh, so here we go. This how it works. Top three scores.

We add them together. Whoever wins wins this. Hold on. Look at how tidy this man is. Wow. He is a little, little man. All right. So this is him introducing the bowling event they're doing.

That works. Top three scores. We add them together. Whoever wins. He goes, top three scores. He had a whole threes of both of his hands. Good presentation. Let's see what happens.

I'm so excited. excited for this. He's going to lose. Oh, performative John. He's going to lose and he makes a face. Did I say that? This is also the third time on this show that he said, I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

Everyone's so excited. This is going to be so exciting. We're going to go bowling. Bowling is not a spectator sport. It's not a sport. It's terrible. I don't know. Go cards, at least there's things going fast and crashes.

and stuff, top golf is really boring, ping pong, bowling. I get it. That, like, Brook and Bull is like, yeah, yeah, we'll throw you some money if you promote our thing. So they have to do it, but it's not, doesn't make for a compelling television at all. No, if John had a brain, he'd be ripping on bowling. Yes, but we can't do that, obviously. So if John disappears, you don't see him again during the bowling seven. I'm sure he's trying to crack wise and be goofy John guy, but there's nothing they can use.

from that until the very, very and he finally reappears. We just plan for fun right now. All right, guys, bring it over here. Come on, get Team Silver over here. Team Silver had 376 total points.

That's pretty impressive. But team gold... No, it's not. 465 points. How we roll. Team gold. They were averaging just over 100. Yes.

That's not great. That's pretty impressive. We're good. Sean doesn't know how to high five. No. He grabs the guy's hands. Yes. And then Team Gold got 100 points for that.

Like, who could be following this at home? Be like, fuck. I needed silver to pick that up. Yes, because of shit. Whoever produces something to say why people watch sports or what they care about. The heavyweight P-lamps continue. Who's going to advance to the quarterfinals? Find out when we come back.

Nobody on pro football arm wrestling championships. Who's going to advance to the quarterfinals? We haven't got to the quarter-finals yet? Fuck. Come on, man. Apparently they thought this was going to be on for quite a while. Yes, this is ridiculous. How do you want to finish this up, Adam?

What clips do you want to play? Go right to the next one Okay, yeah, this is, this just shows you Nobody cares about this thing No one involved in this cares about this Trent Brown is supposed to be able to call out Whoever he wants in Team Gold But James Harrison has put up Mario Edwards anyway

What? Put up who? You want to hear that mumbling gas, please? I do. All right? But James Harrison has put up Mario Ed was anyway. Close. But basically what's happening on this show? show, not to critique that part of it, is

like, all right, so we decided these are the rules and they're just not following them. Again, nobody cares. None of this matters for anyone. Yeah, so what are we going to do? Somebody's got to record a voiceover. We don't have any money who will do it for free. John, tell them to get in there. All right, so here is my example of what I think John actually wrote. And John

claims that he was a writer on the Howard Stern show. And his example of that is he would write Fred the Elephant Boy, line seven. so that's writing because he wrote that to Howard so that he would know that Fred the Elephant Boy was on line 7 so I have a feeling this is what John wrote for this show It looks like Brian wants to scrap silver and gold and go shirts and skins

You know you can count me out on that When we come back on pro football arm wrestling championship It's the exciting conclusion to Michael Kendricks versus Brandon Bryant You know you can count me out on that I think that was the joke he wrote. I'm sure it's for skins. You can count me out on that?

Oh. Yeah, because he's so disgusting. Yeah, you get it. Yeah. It's not a slow guy. But he's just like, huh? Oh, okay, yeah. I guess that was the joke.

It's just so far from humor. Yeah, it's pretty bad. John's not a funny guy. And they mixed him way the fuck down. They're burying it. It's a lot of just like crowd noise and excitement and guys talking over each other and talking. Because they know that this is garbage. All Star Wipes.

It's all just Star Wipe transit shots. You know there's other wipes than Star Wipe, right? The reason they're at the bowl and at Top Golf is because they found out, imagine finding out in the middle of production that you can't have anything resembling gambling behind you. Right. And you're shooting in casinos in Vegas. They're like, what the fuck are we going to do? Yeah.

That's what you're going to do. Bar after bar after bar. Yep, we're going to go bowling. And it's going to suck, and John's going to sound real wet. All right, so this is the last clip that we have for you. And this is shouty John again. And listen to the reaction they get. They couldn't even pretend something happened here.

We are here for the pro football. Our wrestling championships. Are you guys as excited as I am? And the final 16 competitors face off to determined. You guys excited as I am. You gotta go. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, gotta go hand the mic to someone else like we told you. They wouldn't even let him do both. They're like, if you're going to say that, somebody else has to come in. We can't have two Johns in a row. No one is excited about any of this. And that's it. It ends. It just ends.

We never find out who wins the pro football arm wrestling championship. Very disappointing. Because I had a lot of money on that. All right. Let's get you. I'm excited for this segment. What's going out with our friend, the Opster? Brother man, for the man.

You know what I would start with on this segment. This is kind of funny. So, you know, Opie has that I heart media deal that he was talking about. And it just kind of went away. He doesn't even promote IHeart or anything like that. He was all excited about it. First, he was telling us I was getting this deal. It was going to lead to more reviews.

And there's an email I just got 22 hours ago. Hi, who are these podcasts? Podcasts team? I'm Sean, production manager at Infliction Point Entertainment, a multi-platform production and distribution company, founded by Michael Smith, BSPN, with an official distribution partnership with IHeartMedia. Through this partnership,

we're building a curated roster of independent podcasts to distribute and help grow across IHeart's extensive network. we've been tasked by iHeart to handpick podcasts that we feel connected to and could be a standout voice on their platform and we feel your podcasts who are these podcasts aligns with who we are and the type of partner we'd like to work with through our partnership with ihart you'll be able to provide featured placement across ihart platforms a higher cpm than most independent podcasts preferred marketing and access to ihart's sales engine so those are all the things that opi was talking about he's like yeah you know we're going to going to be able to get more advertising involved, the marketing teams are behind it, will be on more platforms, those are all the things that, open got one of these form emails that all of those podcasters get. So we did it. We did it.

We made it. Sign me up. It's all happening. It's hilarious. All right. I just wanted to show you that because I just got it yesterday. I thought it was funny. Let's talk about this.

Are we starting with the prelude? Yes. All right. Do you want to set this up? Just know that for the first time. ever, Ronnie has, who's never watched O&A, watched Coomia on compound media, and now he has some questions. Yeah, so Anthony Coomia, if you haven't seen it, put out a video from his show, but he put it up on

YouTube. It's about 35 minutes long, and he really breaks down what a piece of shit opias and goes through some of the history with the people at the Opin Anthony show and how we cover him on who are these podcasts. He talks about Ron the waiter a lot because he's watching our country. coverage of this show that Opie's doing with Ron. He went on a 35-minute

Roby. He broke down the video four separate times. He had a guy saying, pause it, hold it, pause it, hold it. And he would comment. Wait, what, what, what, what, what video? Which, which thing this time, I should say? This guy's making, has been making crappy videos about me.

Man, I couldn't even tell you for a long, long time. Which video? Which video was he pissed off at this time? This video. Do you want to know the answer, Opie? No, he doesn't. Which video?

Which video? Which video? Which video? Shut up. He's going to answer you. Rod's being very patient. He had his people edit it into four separate segments. He goes, all right, roll it.

And then he would roll a clip. And then he would come on on that clip. And then it would go, all right, and then he would go next one. He would roll that clip, stop it. And then calm in on it. And while the clip's going, he'd be going, like that are you fucking kidding me

all right stop it there and then he would comment on that go to the next video let me tell you something he's he's profiting something okay so what we're seeing here is the way Ron's describing this

Opie's thinking that Ron's would be like what an idiot yeah he's thinking that he's he's like yeah Anthony's trying to like be nitpicky about your show and stuff like that and he's just kind of grasping at straws So Opie's like, I'm going to lead with some fake laughter.

Opie's loving it right now. Does that keep up, Adam? It's going to become harder and harder. And like you said, Ron is very comfortable. This is an actual lawyer who knows he has all the facts and we don't have to hurry. You'll just reveal yourself. So he's asking a lot of questions that he knows the answers to, like this next one. He wants to know, has Opie ever watched any of Anthony's shows?

shit. But I don't search out any of his stuff. I mean, zero. What you're telling me right now is new to me. I would never click on one of his, one of his opi hate videos. Can I say something? Yeah. It's the first time I've ever watched him. So he is, he had actually a very clever guy. He's smart. He's smart. He is smart. He used to be really, really funny. He threw all that away to be obsessed with race. he's very good at manipulating the audience I mean Ah okay

There you go Just be like well if you enjoyed him It's because you were manipulated Because you don't have You can't think for yourself And every artist has that crossroads in life Where they have to decide whether they wanted to be an entertainer Or go with race

Yeah And he shows race Anthony was fired For tweeting about An incident he had in Times Square at 4 a.m. With black people and opi acts like this he's just living groundhogs day like everyday anthony is just blind rage tweeting about black people and there's no other content on his show that's honest that's the day anthony

stopped being funny that's the day anthony stopped being funny he had to choose yep the other thing about this anthony video that's really a big part of it is that opi claims that anthony's calling out bill Burr for marrying a black woman and so you know Bill Burr is getting a lot of heat right now for the way he's responding to the Riyadh comedy festival and so Opie's like well the reason why Anthony's saying anything is because he you know he's racist and Bill Burr married a black woman and Anthony calmly breaks down the fact that no it's I don't care Bill Burr marries it's that bill Burr in a private meeting told me he can no longer work with me because his wife wouldn't allow it. So Anthony had worked with Bill Burr for all this time, and Bill Burr had to be like,

ah, you know what, man? It's not a good look for me. I can't, I can't work with you ever again. So that's why Anthony's like, what the fuck? It's got a problem with him. And Opie just breaks it down. And he's like, no, he's just racist. He doesn't like Bill because he married a black woman. So Anthony's just calmly explaining, like, it's, there's, that's not what it is. And there's a lot more to do it than that. Ron is going to learn a lot about friendship in this next one. for it. This is what I couldn't understand. It's like, I can't picture you guys ever being friends.

This is what Anthony got wrong about me. He got one thing right about me. It's everything wrong. He never got to know me. He doesn't know the first thing about me, but he has a lot of opinions about me and my fucking life. Dude, I met him 30 years ago. And from 95 to 98, we got along.

At this point, I don't believe we were ever friends. But there was a time I would have said that we were kind of friends from 95 to 98 what about like best friends was there where you were like best best friends or what how did this all go how does he remember that and who gives a shit well he's also trying to take over the conversation away from ron because ron's like he got this one thing wrong about me and he gets everything wrong meanwhile obi just has blankest statements about anthony when he doesn't watch his program and doesn't know anything that's going on or at least pretends to be bearing his head in the sand and just make shit up i've heard obi

say before they were close and he was really hurt how that went away yes yeah okay thanks we were never friends now ron is starting to feel empowered because he's it's like he has heard his parents are divorced and he heard so much about mom from dad and now he's spending time with mom he's like boy this is not what you have been describing to me in fact it's very different so you can see he's smiling a lot when opi's talking going okay okay he's not he knows if he he lets him know how he really feels, this will end. So he's very brilliantly kind of dragging him along, and he also is starting to see dollar signs run in his eyes.

Let me finish. So because that rant about you and about it, he read, talked about me a lot too. That means you do it. Anyone that is associated with me that does well, he's going to, he's going to go after, trust. Dude, he was actually really kind of complimentary to me. Well, he knows how to do that.

You know, dividing concrete. He's very good at that as well. So, you know, if you want to fall for the bait, Ron, good for you. But whatever. Whatever. Hope he's such a good friend. I know. Isn't he?

He was kind of a buncher to me. Yeah, he was lying. As I haven't left yet, he goes, well, of course, because I'm such a crappy person, right, Ron? No, no. He goes, Ron hasn't left yet because he's still in his honeymoon stage. This is where he got me wrong. He goes, Ron was a massive ONA fan from Boston. I didn't know who the fuck you were when I met you.

Thank you, Ron. I thought you were an alcoholic because you fucking... Thank you, Ron. That's enough, Ron. I thought you were... I picked him as a loser. This is the first, like, 10, 15 minutes. This goes on for an hour and a half, and Ron does not stop.

It is brilliant. I encourage everybody to also check out the original one. Just play the next one. press that off. He's using us to get more subscribers. Yeah, I got a lawyer said that, you know, I have a lawsuit there.

I haven't really decided what to do and all that, but we'll see. Huh? What do you mean a lawsuit? Well, lost to for, you know, defamation, all the, all the lies he's telling, and using a, using way more of my content than you're allowed

to use. What's that stuff, Joe? You've lawsuits for defamation and copyright. abuse. And libel ends. The whole 35-minute segment was me and you. Yeah, fair use doesn't cover a 35-minute fucking video. Oh, my gosh.

So opies doesn't watch. This is no idea he was talking about. I would say 95, 97% of this was just Anthony talking. He wouldn't let the video play much at all. He just makes stop it and describe what a piece of shit opi is. He thinks he doesn't look like someone who's just making this up at the top of his head. Right. He thinks that he's informed.

The thing that he hasn't seen that Ron just told him about Opie's informed on it. And he's talked to attorneys who have told him that he can take an action if he wants. Mm-hmm. And it's very recent and ready to go. These are meetings he's having. What an asshole. Ron does a spot on Anthony impression. Hold on.

He fucking, he's ranted about you and he said, fucking Opie. By the way, he doesn't call you Opie. He calls you Greg Opie. He says your full name. Great, Opie. He doesn't say O'B or Opie. Oh, wow. He either calls you Greg Opie Hughes or Gregory Opey Hughes.

Oh, Gregory. Oh, boy. Like condescending. Yeah, of course. So he brought it up and he goes, fucking Gregory Opie Hughes. Gregory. Gregory.

Ope Hughes got me shunned from the Patrice O'Neill benefits. And got me fucking kicked out of the comedy seller. That fucking piece of shit. He turned all the comics against me. That's cool because with that impression, it's like having them back against me. Yeah. Right. It's good stuff. All right. So this is, I'm surprised that Opie's allowing this to happen. I don't know what's in it for him. He's trapped. He doesn't know how to be without just

running away. He physically and mentally does not know how to handle it. Because I'll tell you how I would handle this. I'd go, you know what, Ron, that's actually fascinating. Let me watch it. We should talk about this because I have a lot of thoughts. You know, he's running his mouth. He's saying a lot a bullshit out there. Let me just watch it first so I can respond to some of these things. But Opie knows that it's all true. And so he can't deflect and be like, I'll come back with what I, I'll tell you what really happened.

So for some reason, he's just letting Ron go through and Ron took very good notes, copious notes on this. I also think Opie can't handle watching it, whether it's true or not, he can't handle because he wouldn't be able to. That's why I'm surprised he's not shutting this down. he I mean this is Ron is playing it so well and he does go back and forth between like Anthony's silly and he has some good points he came prepared yes and this is when unfortunately I started to get angry in this next clip like he talked about the podcast that gave me betting he knew all about that in detail he knew all everything in detail he knew about all the betting and everything yeah WATP is what Anthony was talking about about it, the show. Because he sucks up to these fucking lowlifes. Anthony's the king of the low lives. You understand that. I have a question. He had a chance to get out of the low life world

and he just couldn't do it. He was a troll when I met him and he's a troll to this day. And by the way, I just have to say, we literally don't know who got you in the bedding. People are trying to take responsibility for it out there. We literally don't know. But go ahead, Rod. We don't. We He said, I'll send you to link. He said it's what was one of the guys from that. I'm not going to watch. Trust me. Could it come from Adam Bush or Bill Bush or Stephen Bush.

We don't know who he did that kind of thing. Wow. Yeah, look at it's pissed. Yeah. Yeah, that was, sorry. It's interesting that Ron has been told he can't say WATP. Anthony brought us up by name multiple times in this video. And so he goes, that podcast, you know, there,

He knew all about those guys. Or he's smart enough to just know if I say the words it's going to trigger him and I want to talk about this. Let me just keep, you know, calling him the shit wear and maybe I can get some good digs in. It would be funny if he called me Lady Kaye right there, but, oh well. Do you see how he knows? He knows. He's like, we, all of a sudden, we, we don't know that it came from there. But Opie knows, there's two things happening.

Ron knows for a fact where they came from. I've spoken to him. Anthony mentioned our names. he's seen aren't he knows but he's being cool and he can listen to it and take it opi can't so he's we know we know we don't you have no idea where that mattress came from that's a weird like opi can't take an owl on this one nope he knows he looks bad for saying he was going to buy ron a mattress and never doing it it's funny because it started out as a bit where he was making fun of ron yeah and and now everyone rallied to ron's a yeah even this trivial thing

thing is biting him in the ass. It really is. It's hilarious. It's like, no, no, we actually like Ron more than you,

O.P. We're going to help him out. So along those same lines, um, he asked about a family member that Opie might know. So he, he kept bringing up on the other podcast. Who the fuck's Uncle Rico?

Uh, oh, that's Shulie, right? I don't know. He can't like, does Uncle Rico have a podcast or something or he's like, Uncle Rico?

Does Uncle Rico go after you? I hope not because he's a guy. Sounds like he does. Oh, God. Shulie, what are you doing? You don't have to fucking, what are you doing, Shulie? Shulie's a really good guy. Look, I'll tell you, I've never watched this podcast.

Oh, okay, good. That is hilarious. You know, this Uncle Rico guy? Does he have a podcast? Does he hate you? Yeah. Well played, Ron. I think he does.

I think he does. No, that is hilarious. I love it. So I didn't realize this, but I guess they cover in this next one what the reason is that Howard always hated Opie. Oh. Nope. This was the reason. All right.

He said Howard Stern and Andrew Dice Clay were goofing on your father and laughing about it. Yeah, they did. And Anthony goes, this is how stupid opi is. This is how stupid opi is. Give it to me, give it to me, Ron. you know what I mean like like he's psychotic like like he creates these things in his head and they're not crazy oh look at me I'm crazy you know he says you're crazy I'm crazy he goes this is how stupid and crazy he he said you thought Howard Stern and Andrew Dice Clay were laughing about doing something

to your deceased father and he goes I'm sorry and Anthony goes It wasn't that. That's how stupid it Opie was. They were talking about now. I don't understand this. Hold on. This is amazing because anyone can look this up. They were talking about Man Cow.

They weren't talking about Opie. And Opie clings to this. He needs this to be reality. That Howard Stern talked about skull fucking his dead father. And it wasn't. It was Man Cow. And I believe Dice was a guy who goes on Man Cow show and Man Cowell has helped him out. And so Dice is trying to talk.

trying to defend his buddy Mancow against Howard, who's a competitor, so he hates him and he's talking all this crazy shit. And Dice is like kind of crack it up and chuckling as Howard's just getting ridiculous about skull fucking his dead father. And Opie, for some dumb reason, pretends that we can't go back and listen to that and know that Opie's wrong. It wasn't about Opie's dead father. And so he deals with it like a teenage child saying, no, no, it is, it is. Just I believe it. I don't care what you say. I'm just going to believe this.

Wouldn't you want to not have a reason to hate someone or believe they hate you? Wouldn't you be excited about getting out of this thing? Oh, shit, they weren't making fun of my dad. That's amazing. I'm so happy. Not, nope, to the day I die. He needs this. This is like when we were watching Sutterin John, pretending that he's a victim and acting like, he's upset about that.

When he came on his show today, Suttering John, he was so fired up. He was, like, real, like, pissed off and energetic. That's what he wants. He wants to have a reason to be mad at everybody. And Opie wants to have a reason to think that, like, Howard did him wrong. Just to even be connected to Howard in any way good or bad is enough for him that Howard is thinking about him is what he wants. And it's crazy to think that he really doesn't want Ron to have a mattress. Like, that's what he doesn't want it to happen.

Ron is, Opie's, and we've talked about this before, he's on the fence. He can't figure out if Ron is a whack packer because at Gebhard's, it's. like, hey, put out a chicken suit and stand in the road. Yeah, don't touch me. Don't touch me. But then he has him on every Tuesday morning, and I think Wednesday mornings now, too. And they're like, co-hosts, and Ron's bringing content to the show and bringing up topics, and they're discussing politics and shit.

So it's like, which is it? You know, is Jeff the drunk co-hosting the Howard Stern show? Or are we making fun of him for having a small penis? What are we doing? And what's incredible to see here is that now that Anthony has said, some very correct good things about Ron and his intelligence and just ability to show up with something, Ron is empowered and feels, oh, I don't care what you think. And I'm starting to look at you differently, which is, yeah, it's really incredible. And this is where things start to

take a turn when the chat comes alive. I point out this loser. This is E. Rock. He used to be a producer of the Opied Anthony show. And he drank the Kool-Aid, and now he's in Anthony's camp and he's now with the cool kids iraq you're with the cool kids now are you this is incredibly sad you're incredibly sad iraq now that you're with the cool kids how is it to be with all the cool kids iraq how is it that they don't goof on you anymore go away you loser why you up watching my shit i don't watch anything of yours go ahead uh oh oh oh hey a hole you started with no i didn't start with you you're not even a thought in my life you let me let me do what i should have done a long time ago he says send me the link oh my god the chat's going nuts hold on i got fired up goodbye

any guy bought it anyway got what a pussy i this is so enraging yeah opi used to fuck with eric all the time so that was opi's punching bag was eric nago and they used to do this bit where opi would turn to Eric and he'd say, okay, I need you to come up with a joke about something that's in the news, something that's topical. And they'd play, you know, the dancing, the Marty, the Baby Elephant, and they'd make fun of Eric for not being quick with a joke. Eric came on WTP and told us that, like, he wasn't allowed to come up with a joke. That was the bet.

That he was told he asked to sit there and be like, I don't know, I can't come up with anything. And no one else on the show enjoyed that bit. It sucked. It wasn't a good bit. That's why I asked him about it. But it made Opie feel good about himself. So that was Opie's chance to be like, yep, you're my underling, and I will embarrass you

on the show and make it look like, I'm one of the funny guys and you're a loser. And this is what's pissing off Opie so much is now he's on here. And he's sitting there going, oh, shit, people like E. Rockmore than they like me. How is that possible? I'm the cool guy. My name's on the show, on the marquee. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eric's a likable guy and does a good job.

So that's the guy that we like. I also feel like Opie spends his whole time streaming, thinking everyone, every chat is saying, hey, asshole, but they're not. But he's bracing for it every time. Yeah. So we have to read and be carefully. He has all these defenses up. But when it actually said for the first time, hey, asshole, he, all he could do is point at it and scream. Like, it's happening.

It's happening. Yeah. It's what I thought and had no ability to handle it. And just immediately is like lying and crabbuck. anyone down he can with him. This is amazing. And props to E. Rock for watching this live and being there to chat him and really trigger Opie. So he asked for the wink.

He gets blocked. What happens next? Well, I don't want to reveal it. Let don't we just let it out. Wait, wait, wait, wait, way, way, way. Hello? Hello? Dude, stop watching my shit.

Who gives a crap what I do? Who gives a crap, Eric? Do you feel, do you feel good that you're part of the cool club now? No. Who gives a crap? What? You started this shit. What did I do, Eric?

What did I do to you, Eric? You want to know what you did to me? It's laid out on a video all proven when your text. All of this shit. Harder than years ago, when you walked out at Stereus XM being an asshole. Yeah. Did you get it at Westwood One? Wait, wait, wait, wait.

What did I do at Westwood? Westwood won? Really? Yeah, what did I do? Tim Sabian hired me to produce your... No, he didn't. You're delusional. I didn't want anything to do with you after I left

Series X-M because you weren't buying into the new show. What show? You weren't doing a show yet. The show I was doing with Carl and Vic, you weren't buying into it. So when I moved to Westwood and I was thinking of getting a producer, your name didn't even come up. You're delusional.

It wasn't even. even a conversation it wasn't a conversation eric eric eric i i your name never came up to produce the westwood one show i didn't stop you from getting a job over there and i absolutely did not and i'm not and i'm not going to watch your oh that's amazing right there ron's like stop yelling over him let him talk i would be willing to bet that eric nagle has receipts i bet there's emails there's proof that Tim Sabian wanted E-Rock to produce Opie's podcast.

He said there's a video. Go watch the video. He's got his life's work. This is amazing. Oh, that's right. He's got it all stacked up behind them. That's right. It wasn't a conversation. Eric, Eric, Eric, I, your name never came up to produce the Westwood One show. I didn't stop you from getting a job over there. I absolutely did not.

And I'm not going to watch. And I'm not going to watch. your dumb video where you trash me. Go have a good life and leave me alone. I don't even know what you do. Jesus. These guys are crazy. Wow, he hung up on him. Hold on. Pussy. Who's that? That's the first time I talked to him in many, many years. He is like, who's not familiar, by the way. Iraq was one of the main producers of Opian Anthony. He did very very good stuff for us. I'm not going to lie. I can't lie about it. Are you surprised he just called you? yes i think he was

i think he was very surprised he just called him he didn't know how to deal with this he just yelled over him didn't let him get a word in this is all happening so fast he's heard about the greatness of opium a he hasn't he hasn't enjoyed it himself so he's like these are the this is how you talk to them right this is your relationship with them all these years oh my god this guy produced your show and he's calling in to set the record straight and you won't even let him get a word in uh dang wizard says, yeah, Opie's saying, I didn't want anything to do with you.

Just as he said he didn't stop anything from, you know, didn't stop him from getting hired. Tells you everything you need to know right there. Yes, the brass would want the producer of ONA to be producing this show. That's what they would want. Right, because the audience would be like, oh, sweet, E. Rock's out on the show. E. Rock's producing it. We know he does a great job.

He's a longtime producer of Ope and Anthony. How many films have you seen where they're just like the only reason the producer's name is there so as they can say from the producer of. O&A, right? I mean, he got hired at compound media. E-Rox's an incompetent boob, but they brought him over to compound because they wanted that name. Ron looks like I haven't finished buffering.

I know that bugs you every time you see Ron out here. I can tell the difference. You look a little younger. Do you remember earlier when Opie was talking about dividing and conquering how that's what Anthony does? That's his move. Watch this. Watch what happens here.

Interesting. Well, E-Roc's part of the cool club now. You know, he, he, uh, was hired by Anthony who Anthony used to talk bad shit about this guy, but he falls for that. And he, uh, and he, uh, he, he worked for Anthony. And I'm sure he, uh, he got, his eyes were open to, uh, Anthony's BS. Wow. There it is right there.

Yep. And Anthony always said, and this is the rub about opi is that opi would constantly triangulate. So he'd be like this person saying you're doing a shitty job, but I, I stood up for you. So don't worry about it. I got you covered. And then you'd go to the boss and be like, he is doing a shitty job, by the way, just so you know. Like, he's kind of fucking up a lot. And that was what Opie was constantly doing was causing the strife in the workforce, which is one of the reasons why everyone hates him.

Like, every single person who worked on the Opie show hates Opie now, which is one of the points that Anthony made on that video that Ron watched. This is great. Which is definitely giving Ron a lot of things to think about. Yes. So he's witnessing how this all goes down in real time. And seeing how that Opie did that reflexively. and instinctually like he didn't have proof he just went cornered which

he is this is an interrogation that's been going on for a long time and he is losing control of it and his instinct is just imagine being like Carl producer Chris has hated you the entire time the entire time he talks to shit about you every time shut the fuck up

like what are you doing another point to make though here is for the first time Opie show is compelling yes if I'm scrolling through the YouTube short thing or whatever he's on that's getting all these views and no one's actually paying attention. I'm like, whoa, what's this?

E. Rock is screaming at Opie and Opie's yelling back and Opie shuts it down. And I just want to point out to everybody, this is all Ron. Ron is letting people speak. Ron is setting up the questions and stepping back. Ron is just now aware. That's your producer. That's your co-host. You talk to these people that way because I've been listening to them and they're saying a lot of

very honest, real things. So I'm starting to question my allegiance. Now, right here, it turns out, which I wasn't aware of, that Opie believes in enabling junkies. Howard Stern Show, you can't do the O&A show? Like, did you kind of say that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was real animosity between the two shows, for sure.

So didn't Artie Lang do both your shows? Didn't Artie Lang do both? No, no, no. All that came after, because then Howard, he started throwing a whole bunch of people out with the trash. and those guys started doing our show. Oh, it wasn't to say, okay, all right. To tell Artie Lang to beat it, I don't give a crap how bad he was doing, you know,

in his personal life to let that guy go. That's, you want to talk about delusional. Yeah, but you let him go because of his addiction. Yeah, wow, Rod really is informed all of a sudden. That's very interesting. Opie's sitting there going, yeah, they should have miced him up while he was napping. in his chair like they were doing because he was in a heroin-induced coma

on the show. They should have kept doing that. It's a good bit. You wonder how Amy Winehouse happened. It's guys like that that are like fucking get her up and shove her out there and make her sing. We paid for this. By the way, Cheats Shitterson has reemerged in the Dabbleverse

recently. I'm very excited to say that because the first ever documentary about Suttering John that he created is still the gold standard. and he's just recently put out a teaser trailer for part two of that. Yes. Which is going to come out at Christmas.

I can't believe we have to wait that long, but it's exciting. Yeah. It's coming out at Christmas time. But he is saying right now in our chat, after the Southern Giant documentary, he's 100% doing a documentary on Opie and sheet, whatever you need from me, buddy, let me know. Happy to provide any sound bites or clips that you need. That's exciting. Sorry to break your flow, Adam.

When I see a celebrity in the chat, you know, I'm just a man, just like anyone else. I'm just upset that he said that it's going to be gold because I'm on the silver team. That was what we call a callback. Thank you. You can just play the next one. You can write down that you're a writer for WTP if you want to add about. I will allow that. Richard Lewis looked me in the eye and told me it was brilliant.

Hey, can I say something else that Anthony ranted about you? Yeah, but I mean, at this point, I got to go. We could do a question. He said the line. Lots of rant about, you see the sun above your shoulder? Yeah. He says you're doing that on purpose. Because you're trying to hide your fucking, your wrinkles and you're trying to hide.

What's it calling O.P? Wow, that's a perfect time to bring this up, Ron. Well done, sir. This is what Opie wants. He wants the sun right into the lens of the camera, so it's impossible to see what's it doing. People get those mocks? What's it called? Dude, the guy looks like he sleeps in a gravel driveway, and he's making fun of my looks.

He's convinced. No, he's making fun of the fact that you're hiding your looks. Yes. Big distinction. You're so bane. Yeah. He's saying this fucking guy's in his 60s. He's fucking looking at his hair's falling out.

He's got wrinkles. And he's got, what's it called old age mucks? And he goes, it's on fucking purpose. Look at him. He thinks he's the divinity. That's pretty funny. You got a big way about this picture. He goes, you don't want people looking at your face.

Oh, but here's the problem. This is why he's so full of garbage. What about the, I would say, the first 30 minutes of the live stream when there's no sun and you can see my face crystal clear. How does he explain that part of it? He's a lunatic. Wow. I was not expecting Opie to defend that. I thought he was going to go after Anthony on that one.

weird he's he's having an out of body experience right now opie i don't think he's processing anything is crushing it at this point and you were right man he just gains momentum as this goes and he's feeling it right now yeah it shows you we could give him advice right now what to do next time he's listening yeah i i think he's getting uh really good orders from anthie at this point i'm i'm happy to let him run with it yeah he's uh really twist the knife in this next one still clear how does he explain that part of it he's a lunatic dude he's a lunatic at this point i'm convinced he's severely mentally ill obi severely you do have your conviction and his conviction that

you're both are fucking mentally insane is absolutely true he's convinced no i'm not joking he's convinced you have real psychological issues he thinks you're delusional he thinks most of the stuff you've ever done you've made up oh yeah And you think that about him. It's hilarious. You both think you're crazy. I made everything up. He said the only friend you have left that Sirius XM is some intern who got thrown up on.

Oh, Pat Duffy? No, man. There's a few people I still keep in touch with. All this is rejecting. He doesn't hang out with anyone from Sirius XM. He doesn't have any of the O&A comics on his show. like zero. It's all projecting on his part. A lot of people blew me off. I burned a lot of bridges, of course. But he sits there and makes believe that they're all just marching into his

show and doing his show. No one is bothering with him either. That's why when I said yesterday and it triggered him that his career sucks too. It couldn't be more, more true. Oh, oh, here's the other. So this is great because I was prepared to do a segment on Opie responding to Anthony's video, where Opie's big response was what he just said, my career sucks, your career sucks, which is like, okay, that's not a great defense for a guy who is running a media company while also hired by W.A.B.C. and syndicated across the U.S. on a radio show. But I love that it that's come to this where Ron studied this so well. He's got notes out. He's like, yeah, there was an intern. A Pat Duffy.

is the name. This is perfect. It's almost like Anthony's confronting Opie because Ron's doing a great job of going through all the nose and all the talking points here. It's even better than Opie than if Anthony was doing it because he's not triggering him and he's just letting him go. And he's testing. Opie doesn't realize if he changed his answers, Ron would be on your side.

If you gave reasonable explanations for these relationships and all of these things, he might follow you. But he's seen clearly, oh, it might be you. Because if that was my producer, I would never talk to him like that. I'll never forget. Opie's gone for eight months. He's fired from Sirius XM. He comes back on Westwood won Opie Radio with the podcast. And I was there for it.

We covered the very first episodes of that. And Opie said, I have a shaman. and the shaman came over and blew tobacco into my face and I'm working on myself and I realize I have issues and I'm fixing those things and I know that a lot of the reason why bad things have happened because of me and it's my fault and I went here's an enlightened opi I mean the tobacco thing was weird

he thought he did heroin it was a whole weird thing go back and listen to our back catalog opi's completely gone from that now he's just right back to battling everyone not taking any responsibility, even when presented with facts and E. Rock saying, I have the video evidence that you treated him like shit. Eric told us, he tried to do everything good to keep his friendship with Opie. And Opie just shut him out and was a total douchebag to him.

And it's like you're saying, Adam, here, Opie has an opportunity to be like, dude, I've made a lot of fucking mistakes, man. I mean, look at me. I was on a huge radio show. And now you can stare at the sun through the. freaking window as I broadcast to 82 people. It'd be so easy to quell this. Yes.

Yeah. He also knows he's lying about the mattress. Like he knows that was a lie so he could see in that moment, oh, you're not straight with me. Yeah. And you are willing to be dishonest to keep me down. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. Now they get into sports talk, which every radio person loves. Oh, here's the other thing he said. All right. It's like, you know, Belmont Tech Brady. You know, it's like Belichick, Brady, like, who was the one who made the other person? Right. Anthony said he was the show, and he says, you are now trying to prove to people you can be successful and famous without Anthony.

And he says it hasn't happened yet, and it never will. Okay. Well, if it never does, I'm going to lose a lot of sleep over that. And he- Anthony was a nightmare to work with. You know, near the end. So, Oprah's response is, I don't care. Yeah.

He's basically agreeing with it. He said you're a loser who can't do anything on your own. I don't care. Okay. Well, there we have with that. We're all on the same page. But Marge has a drinking problem. Yeah.

Right. All right. Where are we going next? At this point, it's been an hour and ten minutes straight. And I kept in some of those segues so you could see that when Opie tries to move on, Ron will hold him and keep this line of questioning going. Opie's finally now like, I. I can't take it anymore. I got to go. Good job, Ron. That's how we call it. He says your whole name now.

Oh, that's good. That was my first radio name, by the way. Greg Opey Hughes. All right, Ron, this was fun. Oh, my God. A lot to digest. I guess I got a lot of videos to watch today. My God. I'm going to send you that link. If you want to watch it, watch it. Don't send me the link. Don't. Don't. Please don't. Hey, my friend, Greg, if you want to work on yourself, I'd be happy to help you with that. I don't. Okay. Fair enough. He doesn't even want to see the link, let alone the video. YouTube.

Fuck that. He's hurt and confused. He's like, this guy we've been talking about for all these years just reviewed our show and you're not interested in watching it or talking about it. I guess I'm alone in this is what Ron is thinking. So, Adam, you and I got to hang out with Rich Boss a little bit when we were at the Villa Roma Resort for Chrissy Manor's Content Hotel. And of course, Rich Boss was a staple.

on the opi and anthony show. And when Anthony went off to compound media, Rich Voss was a regular guest on there. And for a while, Voss was a regular guest with Opie and what he was doing. Not so much anymore. Hmm. What's up with that? Opie.

And then, uh, so then right away he brings up Rich Voss. Uh, and he said, you, like, kind of fucked him over on a business deal. No.

That's what he said. He said, you fucked him over on a business deal. And he goes, I don't get it. Their wives were friends. That's that, no, his wife is a terrible person because after Rich Voss and I had a problem, she, she fucking blew off my wife. My wife has nothing to do with any of this shit.

Body, he's going after Bonnie McFarland. No, is that really the move? Wow. Okay. His wife was a terrible person. He's a girl under the bus or think about myself for a second. So she's going down. Wow.

That's crazy. Lope's instincts are insane. What he said. Iraq's wife did the same thing, blew off, blew off my wife. My wife didn't do anything to these people. These people are fucking nuts. Rich Foss, as simple as this, he was making a documentary, and me and my wife, we gave them a lot of money, a lot of money, $10,000.

I would have to get the exact figure, some like $10,000, maybe more. It's really a stuttering John. Holy shit. We're going to get a dollar amounts. Okay. So they can make their documentary. What business deal? I gave him money, and I even said I don't even need the money back.

And by the way, let me just, he titled it this. Comics who think Greg Opie Hughes is a fucking asshole. And then he said, that's how he goes, so let me just give you a list of comics who think Greg Opie Hughes is a fucking asshole because he fucking is. Yeah, good boss, boom. Then he goes into Rich boss. Why don't you explain what I did to you as far? I don't think Opie wants to hear the rest of this list.

I don't think so either. Ritz Moss. I'm sure the list goes out of that of that. We got to wrap up over just to back up a little. He said, my wife didn't have anything to do with this. Me and my wife gave him a bunch of money. Yeah. Business deal.

What business deal? Yeah. Oh, that business deal that you're all in together. Insane. First of all, too much Voss. Why don't you explain what I did to you as far as effing you over a business deal? Yeah, that's what he said. You will never see anything about it because it's a made-up lie.

The fact is he's pulling at straws. Me and my wife, we were interested in their... Pulling its truss. Made up lie. Can't talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hope he's flustered here. It's a tough sledding for him.

Rope a dope. My wife, we were interested in their documentary. The women aren't funny or whatever. And they needed funding. They came over to this apartment and talked to us. We wrote a big check for this movie. And that was it. We wanted to be involved a little bit,

which I know my wife was here and there. Oh. And then the movie just did okay. And that was it. And I never asked for the money back. What is he talking about? I don't know. And then he...

Again, do your point. Like, my wife has nothing to do with this. And then the wife did have involvement in this documentary, it sounds like... Sounds like more than Opie did. Well, it sounds like maybe there was something that there's a reason why Bonnie and Rich don't want to deal with these asses. Sure does. So it sounds like to me...

could have just said i produced a film with them i love the film and we had a great time what happened like you didn't have to throw them under the bus before you even knew it was real or what they said he's insane it's great he's so defensive here yeah and he's you can't quite see it here in the interest of time but ron is going down a list of like nick de paolo and all these other comics that hate him and forcing him to play this game that we can play now if we want to but that was great because you know anthony was pretty much just kind of going out the top of his head as he's reacting to what opi was saying and you know anthony knows all this stuff and for ron to really study it watch it twice he said write it down

this is what gregg needs to hear this is great this guy he goes he goes this guy thought gregg opie hughes was a fucking asshole yeah before o'n a finished and he goes he would only do he goes even though he thought Greg Opie Hughes was a fucking asshole he would do he would do the O&A show because if you did the O&A show it would put ass in seats yeah what comic

do you think I'm talking about he's huge now it's time for everyone's favorite game show which comic thought Greg sucked long before Opie and Anthony disband did all of the above no idea literally he had his own television show he said he had a big problem with you oh did he what was his

problem he could come on this thing any time he wants and tell and tell me the problem he's he said he fucking did not like you had he fucking thought you're an asshole but rod is great i've never thought that or said that before but this is fantastic it's just no no this guy said he really fucking age you're a piece of shit he just reiterated with a piece of garbage you are okay keep going Anthony goes

if you were a comic and came on the O and A show your career got cultivated in bloom yeah hold on so he had a television show take a guess oh see this guy's saying he had a television show

well and Jerry Sharper Shepardini CK you dummy All right. Louis C. Yeah. What was his problem with me? I don't know, but why did someone say Louis C.K?

So there is a problem. So did someone just say Louis C.K? I don't know what the problem would be. So why would someone say Louis C.K? Good question. Ron wants answers. I love this. And he would accept them.

He's rooting for you. He's asking because he wants you to give him a different perspective than all of this awful shit he's just seen. see open could have had some fun with us and been like well he wanted to jerk off in front of me and i was like i'm not really into that sort of thing so we've had a bad relationship ever since oh he's playing dumb yep oh wow just play the next one we gotta hear it so i'm not gonna lose sleep that uh louis k has a problem me he's he's got bigger problems did you did you realize there was a problem no oh barely there is all right what are you gonna do all right

God, I got to go. All right. I'm not going to lose sleep as a weird cope that he has. Wow. Wow, you're a, I think you're a big Anthony Coomia fan. We all are here. Hey, he did say, you know what he did say about me? Yeah.

And he goes, this guy, Ron the waiter, he's much, much smarter than he comes across. That's stupid. And then he goes, look, wait, wait, and he goes. Yeah, yeah. He'll figure it out. Oh, yeah. They all eventually figure it out. And he's going to bail on Opie.

And Opie's going to call him a fucking traitor. But Wong on the waiter is too smart to stay with Opie. Yeah, look at what he's doing. Look at what he does, this idiot. Megan in the private chat wrote that Rod will be playing, is it gay? Without a couple of months with us. I wouldn't be surprised.

All right, Ron. all right maybe I'll see you this week at Gaps Of course I can't commit to anything A loser like you So that's amazing Like Ron

Like For Ron the waiter To have a guy like Anthony Kumia Paying attention to him Speaking to him directly like this This is like an experience you see from A guy who spoke to God

You know Who he's like Holy shit my whole perspective on life has changed God came to me in a vision and told me, Opie's a piece of shit. And I should stop hanging out with them. And I'm thinking God might know what he's talking about. Wow.

It's a lot to take in, man. It's a great. And Opie wants nothing to do with it, but like Adam said, he's trapped. Well, he's got some final thoughts on here. It's time to reflect on all the things that he's learned. Hey. I'll say it. Hey.

Wait, I wanted to tell you something, Ron. Yeah, go. I'm going to finish with this. So, you know, I did a lot of therapy. I had things to work out in my, in my head and in my life, something that Anthony probably, oh, sorry that I suggest anything, but he probably should see a therapist and talk about some of the shit that went on in his life, and especially his childhood. He would learn a lot.

And my therapist, you know, Anthony came up, and she basically said that, you know, he is so fucking mad that his career went by-by, and he doesn't want to take any responsibility for what he did for his career to go bye-bye. He's got to blame everybody around him, and you're the number one target. So he put his claws in you, and he will never let go. And that's from a therapist, like I said yesterday,

that had more diplomas on the wall than I can count. Yeah. And that's the truth. It really is the truth. And that's a fact, Jack. Yeah. And Vegas beer sales, Jerry also said that Anthony's jealous of me because that that's what a therapist would say right so did so did dirty deeds dude would a therapist

ever say that to someone you're not the problem he's the problem opi you're not paranoid they're all out to get you and i heard him say that on the episode before this the day before this he said he said the exact same thing so that was monday show that i'm talking about this is tuesday show and opi is repeating that like no no no no a person with credentials said that anthony is the problem yeah that didn't happen. He brought up the diplomas. That didn't happen. No. That doesn't happen. Has we even seen a therapist? Maybe it was that shaman guy who blew tobacco in his face. Yeah. A troll. Well, then Anthony takes his advice and shows up and he's like, that's so funny because my therapist told me it was all your fault. O'B., where do we go from here? Right. Yeah.

Therapist wars. Plus my dad can beat up your dead dad. That's what it is. That's what it is. It's crazy. So Ron is trying to process his feelings about Coomia and Opie's feelings about Coomia. because of Anthony, did you have any, did you, did you have a lot of black guests or black co-host? I mean, like Sarat Smalls probably, like, like, would Sharad Smalls do it if Anthony was that racist? Well, Patrice saw right through. Oh, Patrice. Patrice liked him, but also knew he was a racist. And what if Patrice think about it?

He laughed it off. Like, you're a silly, you're a silly man type of thing. But, you know, I sat there on my fucking hands. Like I said, I'll be the first admit. I was wallpaper on my own goddamn show because I didn't want to be involved with that black crap and the gun talk every single day.

What are different ways you're going to handle that there, Opie? If that's the case, you know? You have the first name on the show. I'm sure when evil things that you don't believe in are going by, you'll be proud of that neutral stance you took of allowing it to happen on your ground

and doing nothing about it. Well, I also love because I know that Adam was friends with Patrice. and you guys worked together on a television show. I love the fact that it's just like, yeah, so, you know, you say that Anthony's a racist,

but I get, my people probably didn't even come on your show, right? Well, no, Patrice came out all the time and they were actually pals. Oh. Yeah. But he also knew he was a racist. He was like, okay, sure.

And once again, Opie's just talking, he has no idea what Patrice thought. They didn't confer. I know that because I conferred with Patrice. He was not sitting around talking about Opie's feelings and how much he hated Anthony.

He was happy to have an outlet for his specific voice, and like a lot of comics do, they respect comedy first and everything else second. So that's just what uniquely he is looking at for better or worse, but you're the one going around claiming to know what this guy was thinking at the time. And there were respectful debates between Patrice and Anthony that people loved. You know, I mean, if you ever race on the show, I mean, it goes back to Howard Stern. We're talking about it yesterday on the bonus show.

but having Daniel Carver of the Kucois clan on is a good thing because it exposes this bigotry and this wrong thought if that's what you think it is. And so if Anthony's going to Patrice, who's a very intelligent man and very articulate, and saying, you know, what's wrong with the black community and Patrice is fighting back, that seems like a productive conversation. It's what happens when you believe in what you're saying. You're willing to talk about it anywhere because you know you're right. And if you're proven wrong, then you've learned something.

Yes. And the audience learns along the way. That's the goal of the whole podcast. We might just learn something. We just have a couple more clips here, and then we'll get into some games that we're playing. We have to play games on the show, as you guys know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But first, so Opie becomes a super villain.

This is one of the story arcs that Adam's always interested in when we're covering our various topics. It's about to take a dark turn. Everybody, hold on. he knows everything about what you've been doing on this show in detail oh good for you he's obsessed with you dude how mad was he i need to know yo the word pathetic just got to him i'm like i'm pathetic i'm pathetic i you fucking that guy's fucking a lunatic he's delusional he's fucking insane he's got these he's got he's got an entire fantasy world in his head that doesn't exist in reality I'm pathetic. I'm pathetic. I'm the one getting phone calls.

I listen. Let me talk to, let me talk to Lul Anthony as we leave today. Ron the waiter, you were great today. I'll see you in the morning. I'm not. I just want to say to Lul Anthony. I'll stop using the word pathetic. Okay. That was his takeaway. Yeah. The parole board is met in Opie. We're not going to, we're not going to grant you. Yeah. You're going to have to stay this time. I don't think you've learned anything from this. Nope. Wow.

He's incapable of learning anything. But, you know, I'm sure he came back on a show the next day and went, I figured things out now. He didn't talk about any of it. Oh. He talked about how his wife's birthday was the next day and how he was up all night buying her a gift on Amazon the night before. Oh.

Is that a thing that happens? You're up all night buying it. He's not good at Amazon. or being a husband or hiding the bodies because this is not good. I was printing out a gift certificate to Chili's. It was a Paul Knight with that. But if you don't mind, can you play Anthony's? Yes.

I'd love to. This is just a clip from what Ron was watching that I thought we would all appreciate. He's got a mental illness. It's a mental illness. And he gets these fantasies in his head. Thank God it's only at this level, because there are people that get these fantasies in their head. It becomes gospel to them, and they have to kill somebody because what happened in their head is what happened. So they need to murder somebody because of it.

So for the obster, thank God, it's only him whining and trashing people based on this delusion that cements itself in his cashew brain. All right. Let's sing. Good points. Opie. I would never ask you to docks anybody, but we do want to know that they're still around. So any way that you're comfortable communicating to us, that your wife and your kids are still there, we will accept whatever your turns are. And also, if you know anything about Shelly Miss Cavage, now would be the time. That's another mystery that we want to solve here on WATD. Because look at what the fuck Opie had to say today, after.

after all of this. Oh, no. If you have that. I certainly love live streaming every morning, but it's not the most important thing in my life. My wife and my kids are. It's my wife's birthday. So I truly got to go.

I got to continue, like, wrapping presents and blowing up balloons. And now I got to run to the store. I've got to make breakfast. Okay. So Ron Berman, Ron the waiter. Happy birthday, Mrs. Hughes. Thank you, Ronnie. She'll never, she'll never see her.

I'll tell her you said that. I know your wife's from Indonesia. just... Whoa. Wow. How old would she have been? Opie? No further questions.

We're good. Thank you. Have a good day. Oh, no. That's really scary. I love that Opie also. You're starting to convince me, Adam. I keep saying this.

Because he's trying to sound like a guy who's married and has a family. So he's coming up with things. I've got to blow up balloons and I've got to go shopping and make breakfast. Get tamps. What did you do yesterday? I know you did an hour and a half with Ron. but you couldn't go out and get food that you needed for the next day

for your wife's birthday. And you've got to go to the store to get breakfast. It never sounds right. It's not right. You're wrapping presents for your wife. You just wrapped all those balloons for your 14-year-old daughter.

That's where the iPhone was. Was hidden. What is going on? It doesn't seem like... I just want everybody to be happy. That's all I want. Wow. Adam, great segment, buddy.

Thank you for presenting about to us. Sleep well. tonight on a comfortable bed. Yes. Well done, sir. Very good stuff. Speaking of amazing, look at who's here. Our review girl, Megan, is here. Hello. Hey, Megan. Thanks for being patient with us. I know we're running along today. I know. I know. Also, uh, WTP's Ava Riza. Annie is here with us as well. What's up, Annie? Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Good to see you. So we got some submissions for stingers for the show. And I always forget about them like this one is it weird or is it gay what will there say today is it gay it's

pretty good yeah that's fantastic uh forgot who sent that in someone reminded me in the discord and i was like oh yeah yeah i got to play that and then of course we have this one with the graphic it's time to play is it gay ladies and gentlemen here it is everything is to bow and This sounds incredibly fucking gay. So there you have it. Is it gay? The game that everyone is playing along at home and in their cars. And here is round number one.

We have to figure out if it's gay or not. I should probably add this to the screen. Because God knows you want to be able to see Aaron when he's talking about things that are gay. This Puerto Rican guy is going to be doing the Super Bowl halftime. show. The Puerto Rican guy said that he's not going to be touring in the United States because he doesn't want ICE rating his concerts. He has a lot of Latino fans and he's worried they might be here illegally and they might get deported by ice. So he said he's not going to tour in the U.S. All right. That's his decision. That's fine. A lot of people didn't think that was fine and

they're mad at him. Well, then they gave him the Super Bowl and it doesn't make a lot of sense. You won't tour in the United States, but you'll take the Super Bowl gig. Whatever. uh fans got mad i don't know why it's the fucking super bowl if you are you gay for watching the super bowl halftime show adam no carl i think it's gay yeah chris no i think you are gay if you watch it okay we're split on this one let's go you watch the halftime show most of the you're gay anyway. Yes. Yeah.

Andy and I are on the board. That's a good start. That's the one time you're supposed to walk away from the game. Yeah, we're supposed to watch, who are these broadcasters? They're Super Bowl halftime show. Christian Black puts together every year for us. All right. Round two.

Okay. That's where it stops being a white crime. She forgot to take on the giant fucking clop your backmails. Yeah, I'm a trucker. I'm here to get my license for a fucking 18-wheeler. Oh, these... Oh, God damn it. I think it's pretty poor.

The fingernails kind of gave it away. She's laughing. The district attorney's not supposed to be laughing at that. The district attorney's supposed to be like, this is a very serious offense. You're not supposed to be giggling at the... The black chick keeping her ghetto fingernails on and ruining the whole thing. That is what ruined it, too.

They would have gotten away with it if they just would have remembered to leave the nails at home that day. Did another supervisor who acted at- But I mean, the nails go with your hair and you just got your hair did. That was a long one. All right. Is it gay to not accessorize your hair and nails even while committing acts of fraud? That's a long one, too. Chris?

No, it's not. Annie. is it gay too or gay to not accessory to not accessorize your hair and nails yes it's gay if you don't do it adam i'm gonna second what annie said car i don't think it's gay i'm going with chris on this one we're split again what the fuck you're supposed to do not accessorize at work gay oh should have followed annie's lead i should know better on that all right so annie just like to lead, right? She has now

gotten both of them. We got round three coming up. So anyone's game. I have a feeling that I'm going to get more carmic music from Numero Uno, Josh Denny fan. I have a question. How does a guy from Northern Minnesota, like really a Yokel,

how does a yokel from Northern Minnesota? I've lived in the state my whole life. People in Northern Minnesota are, they're touched. They're different. They're beyond. hillbillies. They're something else. They're

just off. There's more moose than people where they live, and they just didn't get socialized enough. Is Carmic X gay? That's a different question. I was expecting that, but okay. I like that.

Does Aaron think Carmic X is gay? Right. Adam. This pasty, puffy, white guy He's the only guy truly qualified to hate that other pasty, puffy white guy from the other part of the state that he just can't stand. I'm going to go with weird. He's not gay. Carl. Yeah, I also think he's not gay.

Chris. I'm due. Not gay. Annie. I think it's also not gay. He's going to throw some other word in there. All right. Let's find out if Kermak X is gay or not.

So how does a guy from Northern Minutes? Minnesota end up being an EDM house party fucking weirdo. Let's... Weirdo. Weirdo it is. I think Adam called it almost. Off by an O. All right.

So everyone got the point on that. Round four coming up. And he's still in the lead. I'm never proud of winning or losing this game. Coltrane with a dollar says, if only we stuck to the fucking 10th Amendment, then federal shutdowns wouldn't have much impact on states. Yeah, but the government figured out this thing a lot.

long time ago where they could bribe the states to do what they want like hey we want you guys to do this they could kind of they made an end around the 10th Amendment by going we'll give you a shitload of money if you just agree to do

this thing and the states went ooh oh shit loads of money I like shit loads of money what do I have to do you just have to give up your sovereignty as a state yeah that's cool is the 10th Amendment gay another misdirect right here.

Okay. The Tenth Amendment. The Tenth Amendment is not gay. Chris. Not gay. Annie. Not gay. I don't know why it's not gay.

Adam. I'm going not gay, but as a fellow co-host, I appreciated Johnny Crutch's contribution there. Good stuff. we'll do that fuck the tenth amendment it's gay anyway oh we all got that right didn't see that one coming she didn't know aaron added in him all right well uh we all lost right correct so annie still got the lead this is round five and we have a bonus round where it's worth three points so everyone's in it i think everyone's in it yes all right thank god it's kind of funny and sad at the same time

to see that like this guy with the beard like this is now the progressive liberal guy and the little lady is the conservative Christian like holding on to traditional values and this fucker puts on a pink shirt and a backwards hat as Aaron says that with a pink shirt on good points

Our beard is gay Megan, how dare you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are beards gay? Adam? They're gay because he's been petting it with the mouse for a while there. Do you see that the way he's just circling his beard

gently? So is that a yes? That's a yes. Fuck yeah. Annie. Yeah, I think he thinks they're gay. Carl. They're not gay. I know that Aaron

wants to grow one, and he can't. So I'm going to say they're not gay. Chris. Not gay. All of a sudden, like, beards are gay now. It's kind of, damn it. Beards are gay now.

I guess I should have picked up on the context clues on that one. All right, what's the score going into the bonus round, producer, Chris? Annie, leading with four. That's all that matters. No, there's a three. Oh, Adam has three, Carl, two. Me with one. Okay, I see why he did that.

All right, so this is a little bit of a different game that we play on the bonus round, and we're going to listen to the setup and they get a multiple choice, not just is it gay, multiple choice of what Aaron might call whatever this is we're about to see. Like I have a group chat with some of my friends about like football and shit like that. There's some very terrible words. I mean, I have some text chat of a certain Carl. and Gino and I you know texting about football

and boy is there some tawdry language in there. His hair looks super gay. It looks like he just got out of church. It's not the gay manny. That's not the game. You don't get any bonus points. A church's gay, that hair is gay. Those glasses are gay.

Polly sure thinks he's an asshole. For the win. Texting about football and boy, is there some tawdry language? there. That's, of course, before Carl needed money and his Patreon subs were dropping like a rock. Oh, poor guy.

He texted me a while back and I didn't answer. Something about a baseball game. Is it gay, gross, or sad that Carl texted Aaron at a baseball game? I'll let you answer that, Carl. You know what? I think he's going to say gross, because that makes the least amount of sense on this. Annie?

I think it's sad. It's, uh, is that one of them? Yes. Gay, gross, or sad? I guess that's not it. Whoops. What's the list? It's sad.

What else? Gay, gross or sad? What do you think, Adam? I'll say sad. Chris. Okay. All right. Let's find out.

I was like, don't, you know, it's gross. It texts me. Yes. Yes. It was gross, and I texted them a photo from our seats of his twins playing. So you win. So I do win. See?

And you thought it was over for me. That is true. All right. Very good. Excellent game, Megan. You're welcome. Thank you for just snatching the trophy away from Annie and claiming. Thank you for bringing it.

If you want to bring a game to this little piggy this Friday, I think we're going to do some old boot goofing on there and also talk about. started it so beautiful all right we'll also talk about it's going to be uh it's going to be fun good good looking forward to that and then patrick won't have anything to complain about hopefully he'll find something oh he'll find something that him and moody can argue about i'm sure usually what happens all right you guys ready to poke a dabbler yes let's go it's time for everyone's favorite new game show to poke a dabbler what do you say ladies and gentlemen and ye who shall never be named. Are you ready

to poke? A dabbler? Dr. Huge, member for two months. Thank you. That didn't come out, good. Can you take Pinky and Shipwayer in a two-on-one boxing match? I say yes, definitely.

Definitely. In a boxing room, YouTube's terms of service, without a doubt, And I would take that match in a second. Pinky and Shitwaya versus me. I would take that in a second. The Haymakers would be flying. Shitway would go down immediately and then Pinky would just run out of the ring.

Ladies and gentlemen, one of my favorite guests, Ava Rai says here. Hey, Ava. Hello, John. How are you? How was your trip over? You know, I flew JetBlue and it was fucking great. It was so smooth. but I do

I do notice one thing of a planes are cold they're fucking ice cold in these fucking planes you know my wife complains about that too what a bitch

I always have to have a fucking always have to have a sweatshirt suddenly now sweatshirts are cold sweaters now have you noticed that yes gay but yeah no I'm the opposite though he's working on his new stand-up routine

I was like get hot in airplanes but I've never flown jet blue before you always get hot yeah what did john say next here are your choices number one maybe you should try flying alaskan air burr

be next time try opening a window next maybe you're going through menopause Oh, that's fine. Four. You just need a few cold beers. And lastly, I'm surprised they don't charge extra for air conditioning now to poke a dabbler.

Okay. So one V and Nax are all too funny. So I'm not taking any of those. It's one of them is about drinking. The other one is about being cheap. Both things are John's M.O. I'm just going to go four. You need a few cold beers.

What say you at a bush? I say lastly, I'm surprised they don't charge extra for acina. No, it's a good answer. Megan. I'll go with four also. All right. Annie. I'm going to go with B.

Try up in your window. Be good. Producer Chris, I went one. Really? Yeah. I'll ask it air burr. Burr. All right.

Let's poke a dabbler. I have a fucking. I always have to have a sweatshirt. Suddenly now sweatshirts are called sweaters now. Have you noticed that? Yes. But yeah, no, I'm the opposite, though. I always, like, get hot in airplanes, but I've never flown jet blue before.

Do you always get hot? Yeah. Well, you know, maybe you're going through menopause. I think so. Oh, wow. All right. Impressive. Did we, did none of us get that?

None. Good job, Cardiff. Good job, John. Good job, John. Yeah, we didn't fix it. He could come up with a joke. Pretty good joke, actually. Did you get hot?

Yeah. Well, you know, maybe you're going through menopause. I think so. I was worried I'm pregnant. There we go up. Well, you see? See how she managed, sorry. She managed to top you and not virtue signal.

She just said the joke. No, but John had to laugh way too hard to be like, we're on the same team, right? It's fine. That's fine. Did you see the The shit wear Is trying to drive a wedge between me and you

Oh get out of here How? That's all for this time I'm back next time To find it if you Are man enough To poke A dabbler

Also The Jays made it to the World Series Go Jays Go Jays If they didn't The Mariners cheated sit eugene sit good dog do do do do do do do do

very exciting game seven Adam and I were talking about that before the show started we were Carter's going through a tough time so everybody just be nice to him no it's teams in the world series what are you talking about financially and emotionally give them our support that's probably sure

thank you Cardiff great game and associate producer Ralph is in the chat I think he has a part in that as well So thank you for doing that. Megan, do we have any new comments on our Spotify episodes that you want to bring up and read for us? We do. This is from episode 6666. From Vlad 666th episode, but no shout out to Satan.

I think the intro had a... Yes. Hey, Satan. Yeah. There's another complaint in our voicemails that we'll get to. I need you to stay here. I know we're running along. We have other things to talk about.

We have Sean coming in saying dabble versus arm wrestling bracket. Just do it. Oh, should we recreate the pro football, making the dabbleverse arm wrestling championship in Las Vegas and Hackamania? And make it entertaining. Yes. 100%. I'll be the guy in Fremont Street going, I'm wrestling here.

I'll be the lady with the oxygen. I'll be at the bowling alley All right I'll be passed out my hotel room Who am I kidding That's the dream Yep Anything else Megan

Yes Last comment The opening to this show Is peak cringe Gen X jingle music Slapparuni Yikes Cuzzarro

Cuzzarro Slapparuni Yeah we've kept a lot of the elements It's become self-referential and a little ironic. Get over it. Thank you. Thank you, Eddie. But I love that when John was railing on KB for going just, we're doing it.

That's so lame, KB. He didn't know he was making fun of it. Yep. No, he had no idea that that was a clown on Chad. And then Chad started making fun of the hype train. And then that just became a real segment out of his show. Chad tried to spill in for Steeltel this week. I only know this because Patrick Baldwin was talking about it.

And so Chad was trying to do a. a morning show making fun of the fact that the Steel Toes in jail and he made Steel Toll look like a very competent morning show host Oh wow Like Chad just like all right what do we do now Like read the news

He's just like reading a headline He doesn't know what it is or anything He played the intro twice Oh wow But Chad we're rooting for you buddy Keep up the good work Adam anything you want to promote my friend Nothing at all

What about you Annie Immediately following this episode. I'm going to be going live with the newest episode of What's This Game, talking about Callisto Protocol with Mondays Weekly. So go subscribe to my YouTube channel and go to my website, Insanity.com. I-N-S-A-N-N-E-I-T-Y.com. And if people aren't watching or listening live, they can still go see that, right? Absolutely. They're up in the live tab on both my main channel and on What's This Game YouTube channel. Excellent. Well, thank you very much for coming on and playing these games with us. We have some voicemails you got to. And of course, the

voicemail segment is our rock and roll a voicemail segment in remembrance of gary and san Diego it's a bunch of crap swing in a mix rock and roll this one came in last week but i'd saved it for our wednesday show one giveaway about opi's daughter getting the iphone she said after a few days she said daddy that balloon looks like it's deflating i have two daughters one of them is very young and one of them is a teenager. She hasn't called me daddy in, I don't know, five years ever since she, you know, was no longer a little kid. He hasn't seen that kid in years.

Maybe he makes her. Chris, call me back. Yeah, maybe, but I, none of the anecdotes about Opie's family seem real to me anymore. All of it seems made up Adam's face right now. Imagine if I said, tell Jenny, I said hi, and you said, oh, yeah, she won't. she won't hear that she won't hear that but i mean no i mean i'll yeah no i'll definitely definitely tell her that movie math is exhausting as you guys know on steel toe show oh my god carl why is it that every time i listen to the fucking steel toe show i gotta do a bunch of math well i'm gonna get eight days or

four by four or four by two no errant this is not something that you have a choice in it's not the fucking goal everything to him is the fucking goal god i don't get it it's exhausting anyway love the show don't call me back that was a brilliant observation when erin was debating how he was going to fulfill his jail sentence yeah and he's going through all the different iterations and it was very similar to when he needs 50 bucks for the goal yeah and he's like two people can give me 20 one people to give me 10 or we can get five people to give me 10 or maybe 20 people to give me 5 people to give me 5 It's like betting in craps or something.

Yeah. I'm sure you're having a lot of fun coming up with different ways to computate this, but it's dumb. I have a very unlucky charm next to me. Hey, I was listening to Who Are These Socials? The most recent episode when you brought up the medallion, the Sonatry Medallion. I don't know if blind Mike knows maybe you'll get a kick out of this,

but so, yeah, you had the medallion, you're getting sued. Dick Masterson had the medallion, had a kid, and then also the medallion has touched Nick Ricata and well you know what happened to him so yeah be careful blind Mike don't touch that fucking thing yeah I touched it I got syphilis it wasn't from the medallion I keep telling you that stop seeing that girl so yeah dick had worse things than just a kid he also has that tonight is a veto good point I guess that was for who are these socials I guess I should have played on that show Whoops.

Oops. Remember we were playing that the men's room morning show, part of our Jock Tover segment this past weekend, and they were talking about things your parents wouldn't let you get away with. And they were like being in my dad's room, he didn't like that. It didn't matter if I was folding laundry, doing homework. I wasn't allowed to be in my dad's room. Oh, la, Carl.

I got to tell you. I don't understand why, but my parents used to get so mad at me when they'd find me in their room. I was just sitting there masturbating to Playboys, my dad kept. up under his bed. Like, what the hell? What's the big deal? Yeah, a little privacy, pops. Come out. Help me out here. All right. This is for you, producer, Chris. Carl, he's son of a bitch. Excuse me. You had

the chance to use Iron Maiden 666, the number of the beast as your 666th intro, and you went with some gay Halloween shit. Like, come on. You're better than that. You know, producer Chris, I thought you'd step up on that and, you know, Adam, hi, Wednesday, But, come on, get together, Carl. Sorry, let's redo it. Let's redo the episode. Let's start over and forget it never happened. Also, a fucked-submit drop.

Mm-hmm. Alexa. Order gay, midget, what you know? Brezer Chris, comment? Well, we've been using... Episode number 66. Yeah, I mean, for 66 episodes, I've been using the intro. that song. Right. Because you're

letting everyone down. Oh, okay. Just letting you know. This is like when Stephanie Miller was printing out comments that people would write to any of the stuttering John. I'm just like, listen to what this voicemalor said. You're fucking up, man. I'm kidding. It's all good. We got some notes on the last episode.

Hey, guys. Going over the notes from Wednesday's show, there were a couple of moments. I missed opportunities for the crew here regarding Mr. Polino. At one point, during the Isid Gay segment, Chris remarks, Vinny is crushing us. Editions that people could have put in there was, now we know what his wife, shoes, or toilet seat feel like.

Next, Carl says, we all got to jump on Vinny with that one, to which the proper reply could have been, that's never been a problem for anyone. And the last one, at the end of the show, Carl asked Vinny. Alino, what are you up to? The reply to that should have been about 407. Credible like on YouTube. If you're auditioning for the show, you're hired.

Yes. That's the point of this. Hey, I'm running through. You just love you. Love the show. Listening to the Saturday show and hearing John trying to intimidate and possibly threatening Dr. Steve for helping you guys raise money to the legal defense, and all I can think is, well, John wants to be in controlling.

wants no one to help you. More importantly, if John has a good solid case for $600,000 or more against you guys, covering illegal bills is nothing. If John has a solid taste, you guys are going to be bankrupted and living in the streets. Don't call me back. Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point. It doesn't make any sense that John's all concerned, except for he wanted us to just get scared to give him money, show you what it comes down to.

Because remember, before the lawsuit, there was the demand letter. Oh, yeah. Remember where he demanded $600,000, was it? I was a $300,000 back then. I don't remember. It was something. You know what? I forgot to plug something that I keep forgetting to plug.

Come see the isotopes in Buffalo. We'll be in downtown Buffalo, the Flying Bison Brewery. November 1st will be performing from 4 to 7th. It's a Saturday afternoon. Huh. And it's a really cool. They have very good beer there. And very cool atmosphere.

They close it like nine. So it's just for day drinkers to hang out. And producer Chris will be there. I'll be there, Kroge. Of course, Lucy. Lucy typebox. And the rest. Come down and see us.

This is a good voicemail. Fuck, John. Agreed. Good point. I'll call you back. Redneck Beard has been catching up on the show. This is Redneck Beard with a voicemail for WATP. I'm catching back on the,

back catalog currently and I'm around episode 150-ish so I read on the wiki that Carl Ruiz passed in 2019 and the episode I just listened to was a recorded in 2019 but damn man it's just sad to think that Opie Brady was the last thing that he really did with his life before it passed anyway don't call me back we did guys grocery games I forgot about that so he had that going for him yeah Carl Ruiz was taken too soon for sure yeah let's get some feedback on Ava Riza coming out of the show on Point Devil Point.

It's a little coral hamburger. It's hot dog. This is anxious Andy Colin once again. It's been a while, but I'm calling again. I just want to let you know, Ava is a fucking snooze. He's fucking boring. He's my name and all so hard to look at.

You can just look at your comments, your most recent video with Ava in it, studying John Blast performance. You can see how. how much we all can't stand her. The show would be really good. And a lot of people would actually leave dabbler's if she wasn't on there. But either way, I love you guys.

Fuck you, Carl. And what's up, Chris, hot dogs. Bye. Abba sucks. No shit. I'm aware, sir. But thank you. Thank you for your feedback.

All right. I think we've had enough here. I think we've done it all. I got to go. Bye. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go.

I got to go. All right. Ready to roll the credits? Yep. All right, guys. Bye. Until next time. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Okay. Bye. That was a great episode. That was really great. Bye. Boom.

A plane has hit volley. Vinny Paulino. Because he's still fat. 4.7. This is Nate from playing. at Michigan, and guess what? This voicemail's over. This is it.

It's over. Okay? Goodbye. Goodbye. Hey, goodbye. Okay. Bye. Why would I care? I have so much going on.

I don't swear that's actually Opey. I know. Whew.