Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep693 - Unsolicited Advice
Episode Date: January 18, 2026Ashley Nichole and Taryne Renee have an advice show where they talk about themselves almost nonstop. When they’re not telling tales of complaining to a manager about a haunted hotel room, they’re ...dishing out some of the worst advice possible. Vinnie Paulino joins the show to point out how fat and gross Taryne has become. Ray DeVito’s guest, Hope Gutierrez, seems to be completely zooted out of her mind. Frenchie Hana eats Pinkbox donuts and her rating system is fundamentally flawed. Stuttering John had Adam Busch on the show, it didn’t go well for John, and so he came back the next day and tried to rewrite history. We play John’s spin and show the receipts. We finish up with Internet News with Jenny Jingles and your voicemails. The best true crime podcast ever: https://thecreepoff.com/ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Come to Hackamania! April 10-12 in Las Vegas, use promo code WATP for 10% off – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I told them in the strongest of words to just do it.
You see, this is a, we just do it kind of show.
It's because you're an alcoholic, John.
Oh, and you're a fucking obsessed fan of the battlelers.
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Today, we'll be reviewing unsolicited advice.
This is a suggestion from Jack Rockstar.
We've all listened separately, not discuss it with each of the beforehand.
The show hosted by Taryn Renee and Ashley Nicole.
They have 18,400 subscribers.
YouTube. There was an episode I was checking out from back in August and you're going to find out
why I was checking this out. But basically the format of the show is these two besties who are both
influencers or content creators. I don't know. I can't wrap my head around it. But they consider
themselves content creators and they sit down to do a podcast once a week where other idiots write
in questions and they need advice. And then these two dolts tell them what they should be doing.
but because they're two women,
they have to start the show
by talking about themselves
for a very long time.
The top of the show is always like,
oh, we got to catch up,
find out what's up with each other.
And on this particular episode,
Taryn was on this two-week vacation
for her birthday.
She was away.
So she's like, oh, my gosh,
we have so much to catch up on.
Anyways, that's the fun fact.
Territ, let's catch up.
How, I feel like we need a set of timer,
because I feel like we could just do this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For too long, probably.
And I don't want to do for too long because, like, there's things.
There's things I need to know.
Yeah.
Okay.
So set a timer.
There's so much they need to get caught up on, so much they need to talk about.
And so Terran starts telling the anecdotes of her vacation.
So I pretty much just, like, swam, got massages, hung out with my family,
and his nephews.
Yeah.
And, yeah, it was wonderful.
It was great.
I love that.
And then besides that, like, I feel like, you know, it's been so long, but I'm like, I don't really have much to catch up on.
So set that timer.
Typer's not going on for another 15 minutes.
You want to stretch this one out or something?
You have nothing to talk about.
Although, she did remember an important element of what she did while she was on vacation.
And, you know, they went somewhere warm with the whole family.
She just mentioned she was swimming a lot.
She was also doing this.
I colored almost every day.
Oh, fun.
Like, so much color.
That's so niche.
Yeah, and like, didn't really do much.
That's fascinating.
Please, go on.
This fat woman was coloring while on vacation.
She's like, we have so much to catch up on.
I can't wait to talk to you about this.
Can we address her appearance when you sent this out as homework?
I looked at the thumbnail.
I'm like, finally, some cute girls.
Yeah.
What happened?
It was very deceiving.
So I was looking back at, because they do a lot of photo shoots for this show.
They do.
Because they're content creators.
So their look has changed over the years.
You know, we're on episode 360.
Not much.
Not much.
Well, this woman's got a lot fatter.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
So Ashley, who's getting married this year, she's all excited.
We have a lot of information about the wedding coming up.
Ashley keeps her shit together.
Taryn not so much.
Taryn could use a little help.
But she's giving out advice, which is great, because they're childlike.
They play with coloring books when they're on vacation.
And then they're like, oh, do you have questions about your relationships?
Right to us.
And we'll tell you what to do.
No, probably not.
I'll probably ask you an adult.
We guys are shit together.
Can I borrow your purple?
That's the only question I would ask her.
Vinnie, what'd you pick up on?
Carl, if I were to name this show, I would call it the Adventures of Fatty and Simple.
I just hate them.
And I got to tell you, dude, this show was like an EMP went off on my attention span.
It is so hard to listen to.
It's a slog.
So I want to start off with what I was very, the very first thing I was exposed to.
My first clip, Carl, is them doing their fun sing-song unison intro.
Almost Christmas.
Happy Monday, everyone.
Happy Monday.
Happy Monday before Christmas, everyone.
She had crumbs on her shirt.
Love the holidays.
I mean, obviously, I'm wearing red.
she's wearing green.
Yeah.
You'd know if you watch this on YouTube.
So, yeah, if you don't know what we're talking about, that's on you.
That's your fault.
That's your fault.
It's also almost my birthday.
Yes.
I'm finally turning 36.
This entire year, I thought I was 36, and now I'm officially turning 36.
I can't believe I've been 35 this whole year.
Shut the fuck up.
Carl, fuck you.
Fuck you for making me listen to this.
I know.
She didn't know how old she.
she was and she goes, finally I'm turning 36. Well, you know, everybody turns a certain age
after a year. How long did it take to turn 36? And one to the number previous. That's the number
you are. God damn it. It is so boring. But here's the thing. The good thing is Taryn is going to
spice this up with a funny anecdote. Oh, good. So this is what she thinks is funny, everybody.
It was funny. My sister-in-law's birthday was the other day. And we were walking and
somehow it got brought up that my brother's turning 30 this year.
And she was like, no, he's 28.
And we were like, no, he's 29.
Like, he's turning 30.
And we're like arguing about it.
And she's like, I would know.
It's my husband.
We get back to the group and I was like, Brian, how old are you?
And he's like 29.
And we were dying laughing because she was like, what?
Like, she totally in her mind.
It's my husband.
Dynamite drop in money.
that broadcast school has really paid off.
Carl.
Oh, shit.
There's so many things about this.
What's the story?
Your sister-in-law was wrong about something,
and you're laughing about it because she's a dummy.
What is even the point of this?
Great stuff.
I mean, both of those stories were amazing.
They didn't know what age they were going to be on their birthday.
Yeah.
Crazy shit.
Crazy chick around these people's lives.
No wonder they're content creators.
Oh, they're not done with that story, Carl.
They have so much to talk about.
Oh, good.
Yeah, there's still more to it in case you were wondering, everybody.
was like convinced she's like no there's a part of the year where we're the same age and he was like no like that's never been the case hilarious but it was so funny it's funny when it happens when you're like we so sure what's happening yep nope
Carl yeah there's so much in this that's annoying yeah they're telling us it's hilarious and that it's funny and the fake laughter and then like declaring something hilarious
It's one of those shows that could just be a phone call between the two of them,
or maybe you want to come over and, you know, we'll plan lunch or something.
We're going to read.
I mean, you could do a lot of it.
A lot of lunch.
Yeah, you wanted to rename this fatty and simple.
Yeah.
You're implying that fatty is smart.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not.
She's multidimensional in many ways.
Carl, can I just play one more thing to show you how simple this woman is?
I'm going to skip it past my night.
I'm going to go to the one after that.
I believe they start talking about Christmas movies.
And watch this.
The fat one is discussing how she likes the movie elf.
Because one of the elves, no problem.
Sorry.
You're good.
Because one of the elves was hot.
And then watch the simple one.
Okay.
Here we go.
You know like when the elf rescue squad comes, the lead one, like hot.
Watch her face.
Okay.
Can we move?
Can we move?
on that song makes me feel something that song makes me feel something to my core and every time
I hear it I like want to cry it's so good yeah what are you five uh thanks jib for recording
that for me this morning I could not believe what I was watching they're not even having
a conversation with each other so the one woman's talking about fucking nonsense and then because
she's obviously desperate and then because no one watches elf because there's like hot people
Anyway, so then the other one is just staring at her phone, pulling up Christmas music and shoving into the microphone and smiling like she's a victim of Joker gas while it's flying.
Right.
These simple, simple-minded idiots.
Well, one of the things that simple-minded people love are fun facts.
And they like to start up their show with a fun fact.
No, I feel that.
The win-win.
I did have a fun fact, or did you want to just catch up?
No, hit us with the fun fact.
This one's crazy.
Did you know that sloths can hold their breath?
longer than dolphins?
Look at her.
Look to that.
Just like, who gives a shit?
What's a sloth?
Who can possibly?
Yeah, she wouldn't even know.
Who could possibly care?
How was that fun?
Just the blank stare.
I hate it so much.
Carl.
Why do we do this to ourselves today?
She's like, Taryn, you know,
sometimes you can be really dumb.
Well, let me explain how dumb they are.
So this is the most recent episode that is called
How to Protect a Friendship While Living Together
has 5,100 views from four days ago.
And they're starting off the new year, and they need ideas.
Yeah, if there's something specific you guys want us to do.
Yeah.
I hope you know that we're an open book.
We, this is a safe place.
If you want something, tell us.
Yeah.
Okay, shut up.
Odds are, we want to give it to you.
Just like DM us, email us, whatever.
Also, you guys already know, but you can send us literally anything and we'll talk about it.
So, e-hee.
None of that made sense.
Tell us what you want us to do because we're an open book.
And then send it to us.
And then the other thing that we're a safe space.
It's like, so you want us to program your show for you?
That's what producers do.
That's what the host should be doing.
That's not up to that.
That's a terrible idea to ever leave it up to the audience to tell you what you do on your show.
It can only go poorly when you do that.
So, of course, they then spend 20 and 30 minutes talking about themselves, as they always do.
And it turns out the fat one, it keeps getting fatter.
Life is not great.
Yeah.
I don't want to update you on my life because my life right now is, but for my starting thing, I have a story to tell you.
Oh, my God.
She's been talking about this story and hasn't given me anything.
So I'm very curious to see where this goes.
All right.
Do you see this sweatshirt this thing is wearing?
Yeah.
Is that their merch?
It is their merch.
It says, I get my, what does I say?
It's covered up right now.
I get my therapy from a podcast.
And underneath it says unsolicited podcast.
Does that sweatshirt come with a pint of Hagenas?
Dude, this sweatshirt is a blanket.
I'm not fat.
I'm big-boned.
So you heard what she said there.
She's like, all right, my life sucks.
I don't want to talk about that.
But I have an amazing story.
The story is she's at a restaurant, and they see this couple who are like in their 50s
or maybe early 60s making out in public.
What else you got on here, buddy?
I left a suicide note at home.
Smart.
You know, Carl, the people that call into this show or that write stuff into this show should all be, you know, dragged out of their beds in the middle of the night and just beaten half to death and left to bleed out.
Yeah.
But I would go ahead and play my clip that is entitled Listener Story, a Story from a listener.
Yeah.
So just pay attention, folks.
I sped this up, but I want you to understand that Carl is right.
When you leave this up to the listeners like this to provide your content, you're just going to hang yourself.
Because this is, there's no, if you had any type of care for your listeners, you would never read this.
I sped it up for your enjoyment.
Yeah, the ones that I heard too are way too long because these people just want to hear what they wrote.
They just want to hear it on the show.
So they just goes out and out and out.
Every inane detail too.
Letting the listeners control the show is how you end up with Michael Gavin Ali calling in to every bedabbling live.
It's a terrible idea.
Let's stop it with the phone.
line. Stop it with the emails that you read on the show.
I just wanted to start by saying you can absolutely use my name. I don't care if anyone I know
hears this because it's funny. I also wanted to say that I love listening to your podcast. It makes
the most normal, boring activities way more fun. I started from the beginning and I'm working
my way up to the most recent episodes. Right now, I'm about halfway through the one of 24,
2020. August, oh, August 24th, yeah. August of 24th of 2020. Nice. Anyway, let's get into this
tearing up story. This happened about a year ago, so not that long ago. It was around 1.m.
the morning and I was trying to fall asleep because I had school the next day. But my nose was
completely clogged and my throat was still sore from the sickness that I had a couple days earlier.
That's the worst feeling.
That's like, I feel like I had that.
I was really sick and now I have just that tiny lingering cough that just like pops up mornings
a night.
I had already tried every over-the-counter medication, but nothing ever seems to work for me.
So I decided to get out of bed and go to the bathroom and turn on the shower and turn on the shower and turn on the shower and turn on the shower and turn on the shower.
So I figured it was worth another try another try.
Side note, in case it wasn't clear.
I did not turn on the bathroom fan on purpose because I was trying to fill the room with steam.
After sitting in there for some time and not getting much relief.
I gave up and went back to bed.
It was around 130 a time.
I turned off the shower, turned off the light, opened to the door, and climbed back into bed.
I got comfortable for about two seconds before I heard a loud beeping sound from the hallway.
For a moment, I genuinely thought the world was ending.
I immediately turned on my bedside light and had every what if crossed my mind for about three seconds.
And then I realized it was a smoke detector.
I had completely forgotten that there was one right outside the bathroom.
It also doesn't help that my parents' bedroom is literally right next to it.
And apparently, the steam from a shower can set off a smoke detector.
Really? Who knew? You learned something new every day.
As soon as I realized what it was, I jumped out of bed because I did not want everyone to think that the house was burning down.
I ran into the hallway at the same time that my brother came out of his room.
He was like, quote, are we on fire?
in the most chill voice possible.
For context, my brother streams video games on Twitch
and was actively playing when this happened.
So he had to step away midstream because of the quote, fire.
I was trying to think about what he told his viewers.
I thought it was something like,
I think the house is on fire.
I'll be right back.
Again, in the most chill tone ever.
While I was trying to explain what happened,
my dad appears in the hallway with us
and he probably went to bed at like 9 p.m.
And asked what was going on.
I was doing my best to explain everything quickly
while also trying to make sure
nobody hated me for disturbing them
at 1.30 in the morning.
At that moment, I gained a whole new appreciation
for what the bathroom fan is actually for.
My dad and I eventually went back to bed
my brother went back to his game, lesson learned.
If I'm going to sit in a roomful steam, crack the door.
So the steam leaves gradually, instead of leaving the door wide opening and having the steam come out all at once.
Thank you for taking the time to read my story.
If you read it on the podcast, I will be overjoyed.
I once sent a story to Delilah on the radio and she read it out loud on the air.
Wait, what's that?
Delilah?
I don't know.
A radio?
DJ?
Wow.
Thank God for the Hudsonucker proxy.
Do you explain the visual gag in there?
Well, I'm sure.
It's the seat from the Huntsucker,
see where Charles Dernard runs out the window.
But the whole thing is, it's like,
why are you reading this?
This is an incredibly long story.
Even the person who wrote it is telling you,
I'm only writing this to hear this being read.
Yep.
And that's the whole point of the show is that for individual people at a time
is who the show is for.
Audience of one.
Not any way to broadcast because of the word broad.
Dingy broads.
It's so insufferable, man.
This is the worst show you, by far, you've ever made me listen to.
I might actually hate this more than Tom Myers.
All right.
I have a package for you, Benny.
Tom Myers.
I have a whole package.
I believe it.
I have a whole package for you right now because Ashley was invited to the Freakier Friday premiere by Disney.
And so was Taryn, but she wasn't around to go to it.
So Ashley went with another friend who's also a content creator.
And they put him up at this old hotel on Hollywood Boulevard.
and things get off to a rough start.
I walk up to my room.
I'm taking the elevator.
I exit the elevator.
I turned down the hallway and I'm like, uh-oh.
Hate, like immediately.
We'll post a photo here.
If you're watching this on YouTube.
Okay, so not vibe like you felt a presence.
It was just like creepy looking.
Both.
I didn't feel like a presence per se,
but like I just hate,
I didn't like what I was feeling and I didn't like how it looked.
Like it was just,
giving everything it was giving was just not okay.
And I hated it.
So it was in her 30s, she said, mid-30s?
Yeah.
Everything about this is so childish.
Okay, so she goes into this hotel.
It was spooky.
It was spooky.
She took a photo of the hallway.
It was spooky, this place.
So, like I said, she went with this other friend of hers.
They go down to the bar downstairs to grab a drink.
And she asked her friend if she's getting the same kind of vibe.
We just get a glass of wine and she meets me downstairs.
and I'm like, so, this place, like, we hate, right?
And she's like, what do you mean?
And I was like, well, are you picking up on like the evil?
And she's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I feel fine.
And I was like, really?
That's so fascinating because I don't.
So her friend invites her to sleep in her room with her if she's too scared.
I swear to God, these are adult women.
Well, they got really creeped out because the bartender Lloyd was very weird.
Right, yes.
So she thinks this place is haunted.
She tells her friend, I mean, you know this place is haunted, right?
Her friends goes, no.
You're not picking up on the evil?
Yeah, you're not putting up on the evil.
So she goes, listen, if you're too afraid, you can sleep in my room.
And Ashley here goes, no, no, no, no, I'll figure it out.
I'm not all that worried about it.
So she goes back up to her room after a glass of wine.
And of course, everything she does has to involve vlogging.
And TikToking.
Leave your phone on, and I'll let you know if I need to come over.
I was like, I'm sure I'll be fine.
But just please leave your phone on just in case.
So we leave.
I drop off at her floor.
I go up to my floor.
I vlog.
And I literally do this whole thing on the vlog where I'm like,
I'm getting ready.
I'm like, it's going to be fine.
And then I end the vlog.
And then I was like, you know what?
I'm going to film a TikTok.
Just like for the sake of film me a TikTok, do the same thing.
I'm literally like getting ready for bed.
And I'm like, guys, I hate this hotel.
I feel uncomfortable.
I can't explain why, but I don't like the vibe here.
And I'm sure it's fine.
But I need you guys to tell me it's fine.
She needs comfort and support from her TikTok followers to want her know that she's not in a scary,
haunted hotel.
I was trying to talk to little two girls in the hallway.
Has anyone ever tried red rum?
Is it good?
I don't know.
Because kids tried to sell me out of it.
There's a big mess in the lobby.
All right.
So she goes to TikTok.
Guys, tell me I won't get killed by ghosts, please.
I'm very scared.
She has to leave the lights on.
But I leave specifically my desk lamp on and my nightstand.
Oh, my God.
And I'm like, those are staying on all night long.
They're not turning off.
She's a child.
Could you imagine being married to this?
She's getting married to somebody.
This poor fucking guy.
But I'm afraid.
the ghost.
Would you fucking back in bed?
Would you look under the bed?
Check the closet.
She just have a nightlight on in this scary hotel room.
So, all right.
She's scrolling through TikTok, laying in bed as, you know, mature adults do.
That's where you go for reassurance.
And then I end up laying in bed and scrolling on TikTok for like 20 minutes.
And out of nowhere, my bathroom light turns on.
all by itself.
And the weird part about it is it's a motion sensor switch.
So it's not like a hard switch that has to be turned off and on.
It's a motion sensor one.
So there's nothing weird about it.
That's not weird at all.
This is the thing that will turn on just based on what's going on around it.
Oh, well, then it turned on.
I know.
It's unspefrey.
She is easy to fool.
She's really stapid.
Well, this freaks her out.
So she has to call her friend.
And she had to go down and stay.
in her friend's room.
And I sit there for probably three Mississippi seconds and like physically watched the bathroom
light turn on and was like dressed and out the door in like eight Mississippi seconds.
And I'm sure it could have been an electrical thing.
Everyone at the hotel was telling me it was probably that it was such an old hotel.
But it didn't matter.
It didn't matter at this point because of all of the things leading up to.
It's the
vibes were already there.
The vibes were already off.
And all of the things leading up to it,
I was like, there's no way I'm sleeping here.
It's not going to work.
Do you notice what she said there?
Everyone at the hotel told her that it was an electrical issue.
How many people at the hotel she talked to about this?
Anyone she could find.
I have a feeling, yeah.
She was real vocal about this issue.
Oh, a light came on?
Probably electrical.
But if soon as I have something to do with the electricity.
And I like how she goes, all the things leading up to it.
Literally nothing happened to lead up to this other than your own fucking insanity.
Right.
Other than seeing a hallway that was creepy when you got there.
Yeah.
She's.
Okay.
So she has to leave the room.
And like I said, she goes down and finds her friend who's one floor below her.
So I go down there.
I film myself like leaving the room and that's what ends up going on the TikTok.
And I go to her room.
I literally start crying because of how like, I'm not exaggerating of how scary it felt in the moment.
Okay.
this woman hosts an advice show.
For my generation, and generations before me,
if you hosted an advice show,
you'd have to have your shit together.
This woman saw a light go on in the bathroom
and is hysterically crying
while counting to eight Mississippi seconds.
Why is it sensing my motion?
It's something my emotion.
Oh, no.
I just sat there, crisscross, applesauce.
Count of Mississippi seconds.
You stink, lady.
So grow up
This poor other woman too
Could you imagine like you have the hotel room to yourself
And then your fucking idiot friends
Just like can I sleep with you?
Like yeah
I guess so I was gonna fucking figure myself
While watching my iPad
But sure yeah come on head
Fucking bitch
Can my teddy bear sleep with us too
Yeah let's get your teddy bear out
All right
So this is where
They really lose me
Okay, well, and you guys can totally fact-check this.
It's fully Googledable.
Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel is wildly haunted, and it's like known for it.
It's on like the most haunted places when you tour all of L.A.
It's like one of the stops.
Seriously.
Yes.
And specifically, there's one room that's super haunted.
It's Greer's room.
And Greer's room is haunted by an old actor named
Montgomery.
Uh-huh.
And guess what he does?
With the thermostat.
Okay.
I mean, that's what I would do.
God damn it, Monty.
It's freezing in here.
Should I turn the bathroom went out and off?
No, no, I'll change the thermostat.
That'd be more fun.
Mix it up a little bit.
I love that she goes, you guys can fact check this.
This place is definitely haunted.
Yeah, super haunted.
Super haunted.
Well, if Google says so,
that must be the case.
So just to clarify,
They put that music bed in.
Yeah, okay.
They're trying to make it creepy.
No, the ghost said.
Montgomery, he's a producer.
So she claims that they had the thermostat set of 68, but they were both sweating all night because it felt like it was hot in there.
She would go up and check the thermostat and it was still at 68.
She didn't understand.
Moah ha ha.
This guy really like sweaty girls.
So I looked this out.
Montgomery Clift is the guy.
And it says, guests in or near room 928, which is where her friend Greer was saying, hear him practicing the trumpet or feel his presence.
He said to pace the halls as if rehearsing.
Yeah, wasn't he a musician, not an actor?
He was an actor, but nothing about thermostats or temperatures or anything like that that that I could find.
But whatever, it fits her narrative.
And this is where things really, when I think about having to deal with children, and I think about all the doubt.
downside of that. This is the kind of thing I think about.
We start Googling like more about it and all of this stuff and we were just like,
you know what, we can't sleep here. We ended up going and crashing at my sister's house that
night and had a little girly sleepover. They had to leave the hotel, both of them. No,
if I'm Greer, I'm going, oh, I know your room's very scary. I'm actually just going to stay
in my hotel room though because Disney's putting me up. We've got the freak your Friday premiere.
They're going around meeting celebrities and shit
Like this whole thing that they're doing
And this woman's like totally thrown off by a light going on
Did Disney put them up in the haunted mansion?
This is not the haunted mansion
You think that any of that
The thing about it, it feels sincere
But part of me questions whether or not
She's just making this shit up for content
Because she put it up on her fucking
Yeah, because she was crying on TikTok
Yeah
It's possible but this is embarrassing though
You know
It's like when stuttering John
does the integrity integrity
verification and he says
like really embarrassing things about himself
but he can't get his dick hard
and he hasn't got laid in forever
why would you make up those stories
to see if they're going to get spread
like why would she talk about how she was so afraid
she was put up for two additional nights
in a hotel that they didn't use
they go crash on a relative's couch
she's too stupid to be that manipulative
she might be well hold out it gets worse
also ended up talking to the front desk
Square was like, excuse me, how did you guys not tell me that I got checked into the room that's
the most haunted room?
I was just thinking like, they should have to notify you.
She went to the manager at the front desk.
How did you not tell me that my room is haunted?
Like, yeah, see, the thing about that is that that's not real.
Yeah.
Well, we didn't charge you more.
Right.
What the fuck do you want me to tell you, lady?
These fucking Karen's at the front desk.
You didn't tell me there was a ghost.
hosted my room. Yeah, we didn't. That's true. I think so. And she was like, isn't that like
protocol? And the guy clearly like didn't even knows like what to say. And he was like, well,
you know, I've worked here for six years. I've never experienced anything. And Gers response was like,
well, have you stayed in my room? And he was like, well, no. But like, I've been here for six
years. And she's like, doesn't matter. Have you stayed in my room? Could you imagine these two
complaining? They want their money back. They're upset.
set, they're checked out, they're leaving early, because the room is haunted.
Carl, the friend is the one saying this to the guy at the desk?
I guess.
That sounds...
Which makes no sense either because the light switched off in her room and that she went to
the more haunted room.
And now her friend is just being up...
Yes, yes.
Right.
After they finished the juice boxes, they went out.
But nothing happened to Greer.
Greer's just deciding to be a bitch to this guy.
Did you stay in my room?
I will.
Yeah, I'm invited.
So, apparently Marilyn Monroe also haunts this place, and there's a suite that she stayed at for an extended time when she was filming a movie or something.
And there's, uh, they tried to leave everything in the suite that Marilyn Monroe, like the bad and the meals.
Chip Kay's spunk.
There's a couple used tampons of the tracts.
there. But
there's this mirror that
people were looking into and they were
seeing marijuana spirit.
Oh. And so they're like, we gotta get this
mirror out of here. And you can't
believe what they did. This is so irresponsible
in this hotel. The hotel staff
actually took the
floor length mirror out.
And guess where they
put it? It's just
in the hotel lobby.
No sign.
No riding.
anywhere explaining that it's haunted in any way.
It's just on this, like, on the top of the staircase in the hotel lobby.
And I found it and, like, was just me and Greer and Jackson went and looked at it.
And I was just like, this is terrifying.
That's so irresponsible in this hotel.
There's no side of people know it's haunted?
It says, take your picture with Marilyn Monroe's spirit.
Is Jackson the teddy bear?
Jackson's the boyfriend, unfortunately.
The Deonté, I know.
I just, I can't believe how dumb these people are.
This is ridiculous.
You'd have this hunting mirror right here without warning anyone.
Carl, wait a second.
The fiancé was there through this whole thing.
I think she must have called him up to help her out.
I hate this woman's content so fucking much.
This is, um, this is her TikTok.
This is not a show.
This is her TikTok and, uh, this is what she's up to on there.
Your girl is a 2026 bride and it is officially time to take care of some skin prep, believe it or not.
I've heard nothing but good things about the clear and brilliant laser and I'm so excited because I'm starting my treatment today and I'm going to be doing multiple of them.
You guys actually caught me on a pretty good skin day, but you can tell if you get up nice and close, I've got some large pores.
We've got a lot of sun damage, sun spots, lots of freckling that I would just love to blur.
The best part is we're not doing just my face, but we're doing one.
and chest as well because most of my sun damages down here on my chest.
She has the numbing cream on.
They're doing the fucking lasers.
I'm not going to lie.
If I was that boring of a person, I'd think twice before I let someone with a laser
near my face.
Yes, they might have a bandana.
All right.
So that's our friend, Ashley, and her haunted story that you did in the podcast.
What else did you pick up on from this show, Benny?
Besides the fact that it's the worst and it's supposed to be an advice show.
Let's talk about the advice that they actually give for a second.
How's that sound?
That'd be great, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Let's learn what the type of information they're dispensing.
Now, I also saved you all the time for this.
A listener sent in an email telling everybody that he was very depressed.
That's right.
It was a dude.
Oh, weird.
Yeah.
And he was very depressed because his boyfriend lives far away and he had to move for school
He doesn't have any friends where he is and he's just like in a rut.
Oh, it's a gay guy.
Yeah.
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah.
So Taryn gave him this advice.
Okay.
My clip number seven.
I think like honestly, something that got me out of my like dark place that I've talked
about so much and I feel like you could really benefit from it is to really, really focus on that self-talk.
Because you even said like, how can I love someone if I don't love myself?
I was not able to get out of that place until I genuinely started to like fall in love with who I am and started to change the way I talk to myself to be like my own best friends.
And part of that came with having this almost like out of body communication with myself of like thinking about like, okay, well if Ash was coming to me with these feelings and these thoughts like what would I tell her?
How would I speak to her?
and I started to like be really gentle with myself and like when I would have a really low day
like the way I would talk to myself is like very much like babe it's okay like this is hard
like you've got this like you're going to be okay like get confidence stupid talk to yourself
her advice is talk to yourself and tell yourself that you're great everybody else is the problem
hey terran can you tell yourself to put the fork down well she keeps
going and it sounds to me
like
she doesn't
by the way none of this is working
I just played the most recent episode
she's like my life is shit
I don't want to talk about it at all
it's not going well she keeps putting on more and more
weight things are not going well
and she's just like I got it all figured out guys
here's what you do you tell yourself
you're great even though things are going
horribly wrong well Carl
this next uh the part two
of this yeah there was a Christmas movie
she was gushing over earlier in the show
and she explains now this is so
gushing of a vagina but that elf
Everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a rescue elf.
She's so hearty.
Number eight, Carl.
Okay.
Kind of like being so gentle and almost stripping everything aside and just focusing from like the bottom up.
I think too like really leaning into stuff that brings you any type of joy.
Like I was talking about Klaus earlier.
That movie like I literally would watch it sometimes like three times a day because that was the only thing that was like making.
like making me feel some type of like joy in a time where I felt like nothing.
So I feel like being really strategic about the stuff you like put in your life.
Whoa.
Three times a day.
A movie three times a day.
Yeah.
And a coloring book, right?
Yeah.
You spin the wheel of consequences.
I didn't watch cuties three times in a row.
Oh, dude.
I definitely could foresee writing a letter to this podcast going on the wheel of consequence.
Yes.
Write a letter until it gets read.
Yeah, write a letter every day until it gets red.
But do you realize how insane this is?
She's basically telling people, do whatever you have to do to make yourself feel better.
Self-soothe yourself.
It doesn't matter how self-destructive or non-productive it is.
I might as well have an advice show.
Drink yourself stupid.
Yeah, that's my advice.
No, there's another guy I know who has that.
Oh, that's right.
You'll probably cease and desist me immediately if I do that.
I'll start the unprotected sex podcast.
Spray and prey.
And Carl,
I really only have one more clip from this I want to show you.
It's titled Monster Noises.
Okay.
And I'd be curious if like she's like, I feel like you, God, what is wrong with me?
Sorry, Michaela.
Did you hear that?
The Alani.
I was like, ah.
We're just hungry.
Something.
Dude, three times I went to kiss.
last night and I literally I like as I'm going to kiss him I was like I made that noise and he
kept looking at me and I was like what's wrong with you I'm sorry I don't know what's happening
she's a robot anyways yeah I know I think he thought she was trying to unhook her jaw
well that certainly doesn't make your vagina sound very appealing
could you imagine this creature coming at you I tried to kiss a guy three times he was like
every time.
What are the chances?
Yeah, this show's not great.
Well, what's crazy is, so the
one with the Haunted Hotel
has almost 8,000 views on it.
The most recent one I think I told you
is like 5,000 views on it.
And they have all these ads.
And they're going to these ad reads nonstop.
They go back and they do the Mint Mobile multiple times.
They do all these ads for hers multiple times.
And the Mint Mobile ad is terrible.
You know what doesn't belong in your epic summer plans?
Getting burned by your old wireless
bill. While you're planning beach trips, barbecues, and three-day weekends, your wireless bill
should be the last thing holding you back. So on this screen, there's a photo of them, and there's
always photos of them. They've done lots of photo shoots. As she's feeling really good about her cleavage
lately. Yeah. She's been showing up her cleavage, which I'm fine with. I'm okay. Yeah, I'm
okay. It's the only thing she does right. She's doing that pretty well. But what it says on the
screen is this new customer offer and your three-month unlimited wireless plan for just $15 sign
I mean, this is not even a sentence.
It should end with a month.
The dollar cycle is before the fucking 15.
These women are the third.
I honestly thought they had to be like early 20s to be this stupid.
If you listen back, there's some slurring going on.
Yeah, I know.
And the copy sucks.
I don't know if that's their fault or what, but all of it is terrible.
Well, that's what the listeners sent in for us to read for our spots.
All right.
So let me talk to you about advice stuff because on the most recent episode, they read
the longest question.
All right.
It's a 24-year-old girl.
She's just got a job at a corporate setting.
There's a 44-year-old guy there who's getting a divorce.
She wants to fuck him real bad, but he's 20 years older than her.
And really, her question is stupid because it's mostly about, like, how do I not fuck him?
Which is not a real question you have to ask.
It's pretty easy to do, actually.
This is how it ends.
I think my question is, how do I avoid?
doing something I'll regret and how do I navigate this friendship slash professional relationship
now that he knows I know his dirty laundry. Also, while he is significantly older than I am,
there is no imbalance power dynamic like one might expect with the younger woman older guy.
We're very equal. He's very respectable. He's never made me feel uncomfortable. I think honestly,
I'm more worried about making him uncomfortable. I think it would take a lot for us to cross
any lines, but I'm worried about doing something stupid.
So this question is so convoluted.
By the way, it goes out and out of forever.
But the whole thing is just like, how do I avoid like letting him put my, his dick in my
vagina because maybe that would be bad or something like that?
And they're just like, well, you can just not do that, you know, would be the answer.
But no, no, no.
They, uh, this is actually the opposite of good advice.
Obviously, some work relationships work out and it's meant to be.
And like sometimes you just have a little trist, as you said.
Um, and it's, everything's handled fine.
But it is a, it is always your career on the table hardly ever his.
And it's not fair, but it is something to like always keep at the forefront of your mind that like,
whatever you choose, whatever you decide to do, no matter how fun or, or how casual or how serious,
this is, this is your career.
and I think that's something that needs to be like
literally at the forefront of your mind the entire time.
If you think it's worth the risk,
awesome.
Go for it.
What does that even mean?
Listen, it could be detrimental for your job.
Yep.
But if you really want to fuck the guy,
I mean, you probably should that, right?
Probably go for it.
Yeah.
She literally just said,
this woman's question was,
how do I avoid making this mistake?
She's like, I mean, if he's really hot,
if you really want to fuck him.
Keep your future at the forefront of your mind.
unless you really just want to get late that night.
Yeah.
That it's cool.
But also all of that is bullshit because she goes out to say this.
Does that make sense?
I feel like we've talked about this on the podcast before, but it's like the dynamic of the older man at work and the younger girl never serves the younger girl well.
Who would want to put their penis in a co-worker?
Is she never heard of sleeping your way to the top?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of my life.
If you're a young woman and you're sleeping with the older men at the office,
It's not going to work out well for you.
What?
Promotions.
I mean, you're skipping over people left and right.
All the women resent you, but whatever, you're making all the money.
Yeah.
These women aren't giving career advice.
This is all personal advice, as you've noticed, because who would take career advice from them?
Right.
Think about the example of Vince McMahon.
Oh, yeah.
His assistant was getting, what, $200,000 a year?
Yeah.
All she had to do was, like, sleep with whoever had started to sleep with.
And then I believe, like, $12 million.
She got later.
So sometimes it doesn't work out well.
So that's what I would say is very bad advice.
This show stinks.
Why do women feel the need to give advice to other women when they don't have their own shit figured out?
It's bizarre.
Because it all gets back to that catty nature of women that is such a stereotype because it's true.
They love to make themselves feel like they've got it together over other people.
I think it's more vindictive than that.
I think they know they're giving shitty advice.
They're like, I hope she takes it.
Oh, that's a good point.
I think they just aren't funny or interesting.
And so it's really easy to just pretend that you can give people advice because it gives you something to talk about.
Yeah, that probably it.
But I like your idea that they're just vindictive assholes who want all of their women to fail miserably.
Very possible.
Yeah, your hair does look great.
Yeah, you're right, Chris.
Vinny, you got a clip on here that you call summation.
Yeah, just summing it up.
This is my experience with this show.
Well said.
And with that, I bring you our...
Grinch of the week.
Cringe of the week comes in from Husey this week.
And Husey's keeping tabs on our boy Ray DeVito at the Rock Bottom podcast.
And Ray has this guest on that he's had on before.
And Hughesy's a big fan.
Her name is Hope.
And the thing about Hope is that Hope is gets zooted out of her fucking mind.
before going on
Ray show. That's fine. Yeah.
Hers being like,
it's like, I paid you this much money. That's a lot of money.
You're never going to make that. I made that one month alone,
just being myself,
just with my jokes,
just what my jokes.
And yes, I get,
I get paid every month.
I do.
I think nice.
Yeah.
You're just in nice.
I don't get that.
You're not,
like,
I don't get that every one.
You're the nice guy of the devil verse.
Yeah, you can be my hype man.
You and Clintwater, Chadd of my height man.
Chad just eats soup and hopes, like...
I had an accountant.
And, uh...
I will, like, I will always, like,
I've had a few people trying to get me to talk shit about you, you know?
But, like, I won't.
Like, you're my friend.
I will say, I think you're a table singer.
You know, like, I...
How does she hold me...
There's a fact.
It's like she's holding her phone.
That's going in...
She's doing the rod.
Berman.
Too.
Holy shit.
She is fucking loving why.
She's not feeling any pain.
She has the energy of a dude who's about to ask you for change.
Yes.
I know.
She seems like a tweaker.
Here's just another quick clip.
I was watching a little bit of this.
And you are an honest woman, Hope.
You lay all your cards on the table.
I am very honest.
But you could change your weight.
And I am legally, I guess, an adult and a woman.
I don't feel like a woman.
adult, but legally, yes. I am an adult woman.
Okay, you're killing it.
So,
Husey says,
before you ask, it's a wood
from me. Producer Chris?
No. That's a no from you? What do you think, Vinny?
That's a hard pass. All right, well,
Husey's trying to fuck everyone in the dabble first, so.
I'd fuck Husey before her.
Wow. Husey, are you hearing this?
This is big news.
All right.
So that was our
Curridge of the Week
and producer Chris was checking something out
that we need to talk about.
Oh yes.
Yes.
Yes. Yes.
I actually got a note from a listener.
I think I forwarded it to you.
You did.
Because someone else was checking out.
Now this is French's world.
Frenchihana's YouTube channel.
And we've been noticing
that French does a great job with food reviews.
Yes.
You know, she did the gas station chicken.
She did that Mexican place
I don't know if she's done anything else
But those are the things I remember
Bulldoggy
Remember that?
Oh, right, yes, okay
And she went to a place that we visited
Just last year at Hackamania
Yeah, I was
drinking at the carousel outdoor bar
At the plaza when I saw a familiar face
In the lobby of Pink Box Donuts
Do you got that evidence?
Oh, no, I didn't grab the picture
I should have had that ready to go
I had a good picture of you, Vinnie
I didn't buy donuts.
Ray before dinner.
I didn't buy donuts.
I didn't buy donuts.
I'm not coffees.
Now I have to find the freaking photo here.
That's not, what the fuck?
What kind of Photoshop
job is this?
All right.
Give me one second.
I think I could pull this up on the board for us to
all marvel at.
Sure.
We can let Frenchie kick things off
with the intro to her latest review.
of Pink Box Donuts.
Hey, you guys.
I am back
in my
what I call like my studio room
where I do my YouTube videos at
at times.
But yeah, you guys,
I'm sorry.
I know I was saying
pink donuts
is actually called
Pink Box Donuts.
All right. Well, one thing that Frenchie loves to do when Frenchie is doing these reviews is read whatever is on the receipt.
Read whatever's on the box.
And that's how she really gets to the bottom of it.
It's like her version of investigative journalism.
I've noticed.
She does a good job with that.
Now, when I was watching this, this dropped a couple days ago.
And I urge everyone to watch it.
It's pretty short.
It's less than a half hour.
It's a half hour?
Well, she does a dozen donuts.
We can't get to every donut
But
We have wondered in the past
Who's on her team?
Who's editing?
I think she's now doing her own editing.
Let's try my clip two.
Look at that.
Look at that right there.
Yes, you guys.
Those are the donuts I have right here.
Yes, yes, yes.
Now, those other kinds
I believe I should have went with, but, you know, that's for another time, but this is what I got, and I asked, the worker was, I believe she's a manager, and she picked some of these out for me as well.
So, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, right here. Look at that.
Minnie, which of these did you eat? All of them?
None of them.
Which was your favorite out of the ones that she's showing right here?
You son of a bitch. You know I didn't eat any of the fucking pickbox donuts.
Do you know what a fucking pain of the ass it was to be in that hotel and walk?
pass those things every goddamn day without eating one.
I know. Patrick Mouton asked me when I thought with the dogs.
I'm like, I didn't eat out of any of those doors.
He's like, ah, fuck, I guess I'd do have a problem.
Patrick, you're eating one right now.
There's one behind your ear.
And your hunch.
Wait, say it's not a hunch at all.
It's a dozen donuts.
It's a preparing cream.
In my clip three, I thought this was an interesting note.
We are going to try these out right here.
Uh-huh.
This is what I'm going to try right here.
These donuts are right here.
They're the same donuts.
I had to include this because all she did was transform to a tray.
They're exactly arranged the same.
Well, I mean, it is a nice presentation.
Yeah.
I'll give her that.
You will notice there is not a napkin in sight.
Oh, no.
It really starts to bother me after a while.
Oh, it's bothering me.
She's touching her phone.
Yeah.
Multiple donuts.
These are messy looking donuts, too.
We do have a lot of donuts to get to.
So let's move to our first donut and clip four.
Okay.
See if it's good.
Bots, big bite.
She wanted to get all of it.
Bight number two.
You're classic.
Okay.
Chew your food.
Bruchy.
She's not done.
Wait.
Oh, my gosh.
It's just so good.
well yeah it's a donut
the glaze
of course it's delicious
it's nice
it's fried
it's sweet
dog donut
right number three
she's in half the donut
okay I have a problem with us
first off there isn't a beverage inside either
no there's nothing to wash
just the saliva in her mouth
is all here
yes it's so gross
this is disgusting I want you to know that
but also she's a dozen donuts
and some of them are big donuts
and she's fucking filling up on the first
one. You take a bite of each
you notice that. And what we're going
to notice, and spoiler alert,
there's a pattern that develops.
The ratings for her donuts start to go
down as she fills up.
I don't even like donuts.
That's funny. That makes sense.
So let's get to the second donut.
Okay.
Really good.
Oh my God. Those two?
Yeah.
I know.
Chris. God damn.
Oh my God.
This is like yuck bang
Those two are a 10
Whoa the first two are a 10
Yes
Okay well you can't beat that
Also she gets like the most generic donuts too
One's just frosted
Yeah
And the other one was just glazed
This is like an opi beer review
Right everything's good
That's pretty good
All right we're gonna skip a couple donuts
And go to Tootie fruity
Okay
We're gonna try to Tudy fruity
For some reason she covers
her face.
What was that for?
So I can Photoshop it later?
Oh my gosh.
It tastes just like
a cereal.
Yeah.
There's cereal on it.
Yeah, it's covered in fruity pebbles.
What are the chances of that?
How do they pull it up?
Were they scientists?
Did somebody glaze her face, by the way,
before this thing started?
Because she's like covered in a film of grease
that is like just coming through
with those lights.
Yeah, it's not going to help her complexion, I don't think.
eating all these greasy donuts.
All right.
We're moving on here.
Okay.
Let's go to fritter at number seven.
My favorite, though.
I get this one a seven.
It's good for what it's for, but I'm going to have a seven.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Okay.
French rules.
What's the next one?
She has it all on the phone.
She has to keep open.
Mama's tree.
liches
I don't know
mrs tree lynches
and that is
this right
here
the Spanish word for three
is trees
yes
lynches
I didn't know that
between leeches and wenches
I thought that was great
so let's get the review
but she insists on reading everything
too is so great about Frenchie
yes
oh it's so fantastic
and she's not
drugs. She made that very clear several times. Right. She hit her head very hard multiple times every day.
If I was her, I'd just say it's drugs.
Tedley you're a drug addict. Lots of drugs. Just clumsy. Let's get the rating on the lenches.
Okay. Okay. It's like we got a pie as a donut.
Isn't that a type of cake? Yeah. Yes. Not a pie. Okay. Just asking. Three milk cake.
Okay. Okay. That's cool.
I did that one a seven as well
That's cool
It's actually really good
But I give it a seven
She's filling up
Yeah
Right because just the normal glaze
She's like this is a fucking dead
I don't know how you're going to beat this
Yeah
One of the previous donuts is starting to come up a little bit
Yeah
Not sure what I'm tasting here
All right so she's going to
Eat the cookie monster donut
Which has cookies plastered to it
With like peanut butter or something
and the rating system starts to really go out the window.
Okay.
Yeah, I give it a six.
I give it a six.
Actually, honestly, take it back.
For me, I'll give it a six,
but I think to say for everyone else out there,
for my opinion, for everybody else,
I'll give it a 7.5 to 8.
one day will be a 7.5, one day will be an 8.
For some people, it will be a 10.
Okay, stop.
Let me have an honest opinion about the candy monster.
For me, it's a 6.5.
Okay.
If you're going to eat it at 8 a.m., it's a 9.5.
If you have it at noon, 6.4.
It's a smoking joint.
How many donuts have you eaten before you get to it?
Right.
That's how you'll know whether you're going to like it or not.
So I spare it everyone.
A napkin finally does appear
And she
There's about two, three minutes of dead air
Where she goes for every crumb
That's on the table
Instead of her fingers or face
So that was impossible to really clip
But let's just wrap things up with number 10
This is your lovely YouTuber
Frenchie
And I'll get back to you guys very, very soon
Please don't touch me
I love the Frenchie still doing this
Is anyone watching?
these videos? I know that one listener
did and you did. Yeah, I dipped
in probably three different times to clip it
so there was a total of 20 views.
20 views. Wow. Good,
Frenchie. Yay.
Your favorite YouTuber French. Oh, there's
Midi Cotton Yacht! Look at how
guilty he likes right there. You're not taking
a photo of me, are you? That's the face
he's making. It's getting
coffee. Yeah. It was actually a nice
transition to go from Ray DeVito to Frenche, don't you
think? Yes.
They both suffer from the same element.
Maybe someday they'll do that game show that you made up.
Yeah, had games.
Yeah.
Yes.
I forgot about that.
All right.
It's been a big week for our buddy's stuttering John, isn't it?
We got a song that came in from unknown artists that we played recently.
And that was the...
I was old man.
You know, let's just face it.
I'm virile, I'm horning, and I'm cool.
It's a great song
Well, Unknown Artist is added again
We have a whole new number
That's come in from him
So you like this guy, right?
See this?
Now this is a member of the sheep
Undoaned ours wrote to me
He's just like, we did that impression
of what sheep sound like
All you could picture was like a Devo song
Or something
So you had to put this together
This is fantastic
A note artist is another banger
Bravo
Another banger from
Unknown artist
I stole that from the chat
not going to lie uh yes member of the sheep the latest stuttering john i'm sure he'll take credit for it
probably i'm sure he'll be playing that out of his show is this part of his new album oh yeah he's working
on a new album i forgot about that so the big thing that happened with john this week is that he had
adam bushback on the show for the first time in a couple of years right over a year at least
yeah and uh very exciting to have adam on the show with um and what happened was
the reason why Adam came on is fascinating.
I want to play that for you.
Some of the things that Adam and John talked about are fascinating.
You should watch the whole thing if you can.
I know that Doom has a great clip of it,
Stylvin 19 pulled clips of it.
So look for that on YouTube.
I'm not going to play a lot of it,
but there's some key points because then John goes on the show the next day
and argues with Adam all over again
because he realizes how badly he fucked up.
Yeah.
And so tries to save face.
Yeah, it's way easier to argue with someone the day after.
When they're not there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's amazing when John's talking to someone who's logical and composed like Adam, he does very poorly.
He gets flustered very easily.
He needs Ava and Vince the lawyer and Vegas beer sales, Jerry texting him.
He needs a lot of help from people.
Also, he wanted to get into a yelling match, and Adam doesn't do that.
He keeps himself collected.
And that's why John needs that backup even more.
Adam being a folk musician has learned that,
when you bring your energy down or your volume down,
everyone else comes down to that level.
And you don't need to be projecting so loudly and carrying on.
People will lean in when you have a calm demeanor like that.
Now, I'll still yell over at him every chance I get.
Because fuck that guy.
I wish that motherfucker would speak up.
Seriously.
So it starts off, John, the reason why this all happened is because Adam went on with Pat
Dixon.
And they were on, I think, until like 5 a.m.
Eastern time or something.
So they had a long
appearance on there.
And John was watching that.
And of course, as John does,
he was getting all fired up and pissed off.
Everyone else can just laugh
off these stupid, you know,
childish insult.
Oh my God.
Chris John's getting pinged nonstop on here.
This is from Pest, by the way.
I put this together.
Thank you, Pest, for doing this.
Now, what Pat and Adam are doing
is watching Karmick.
And he's saying,
he's making the point that,
The problem with Karmic and John is that they can't just laugh off these stupid little insults.
You know, these childish things people say they can't just laugh it off and move on.
They take it too seriously.
And that triggers, John.
Adam Bush, yeah, I got a church.
Adam Bush is talking about childish.
He is literally appears on a show nonstop.
That main focus is.
watching me on a regular basis.
And he is going to comment on childish.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a long show.
And it was, yes, it was five hours.
Can you imagine, for some reason he's trying to connect these dots.
Oh, you're going to call me childish, but you go on a comedy show that has a common theme.
What's childish about that?
Something childish about what we do on WATP.
It's a comedy show.
We make fun of John a lot.
make fun other people too.
So John's already kind of lost the threat.
He's trying to connect something that isn't there,
but this is ironic.
Adam Bush, you're a pussy boy.
You are a fucking pussy boy.
You think you're not child?
You're hanging out with shit wear and just do it.
After you bull watch me to come on my show.
What John's doing right now is childish.
Yes, I would agree.
It's amazing.
What Adam was saying was like, yeah, these guys are so childish.
You say some dumb thing about them and they lose their minds over and they can't move on.
Oh, I can't move on.
Oh, really?
I can't.
I lose my mind.
Do I?
He's like, yeah, you're doing it right now.
This is what he's talking about, idiots.
And the other childish aspect of just that is it's always the company that you keep.
Yes.
He calls me, Chalmers me, he hangs around with Carl.
Hang out with me as that childish at all.
It's actually pretty fun.
You have your moments.
We have our moments sometimes.
So then it turns into, we got to get Adam on the show.
And John doesn't think that Adam's going to want to face him.
Does little Adam want to come on again?
Does Adam want to, what is he going to do?
Kiss the Duke's ass?
Or is he going to now go, oh, I always hated you.
Remember, this started with Adam calling John Childness.
Nothing Childness about that.
Oh, is that what you want to do, little man?
He's such a child.
It's hilarious.
But also, it's very funny that John thinks that Adam's not going to want to confront him.
That's the best part.
He's going to be scared.
Yeah, so John's really good about this.
He's like, oh, I'm going to nail him so good if he comes out of that.
Yeah, knowing what we know, this is like the chick at the beginning of Jaws going into the ocean.
Like, no.
Grown up John, everyone.
Adam, maybe I will sing the link.
Oh, I can't wait to hear your answers to what a fucking pussy boy hypocrite you are.
I love the confidence John had before this happened.
Oh, I know.
He thinks he's going to catch Adam off balance.
He's going to, humana, I'm going to, but I'm John.
Adam's always been extremely direct with John.
Yes.
The entire time.
Yes.
And he'll point it out to him again.
This is such a rake.
Well, yes, John has found another rake to step on.
so John needs
Adam's email address in order to
send him the link. Now this becomes
a very important part of this whole
interview and
the next day when John has to
do damage control.
Adam,
if you want to come on, you got to tell me your
email address.
I'm a man of my word, but Vince is
making it very difficult.
Dicka, if you know this
fucking idiot's email address,
get it to me.
Okay, so John needs handholding with everything.
He can't figure out how to get in touch with Adam.
Now, I'll tell you a little behind the scenes that was going on.
I wasn't watching the show at this time, but I was getting messages.
I got at least three messages, three different people, asking for Adam's email address.
And I sent all of them Adam's email address, including Vince the lawyer.
Vince thought I sent a bogus email address because it's not like Adam Bush at Gmail.
It's very different than that.
So it's like, oh, funny joke.
I'm like, it's his email address.
Send him the fucking lick.
I'm sure he'd love to come on, you know?
but liars always think people are lying right yes they can never just believe that like yeah no
that's what his email address is you can just send it here you go um so there's an easy solution here
because john is threatening to read adams dms this is what's going on leaving up to this
where he's like he's like i'll read the dms i'll let you know he was kissing my ass and it's like
how do i get him the link uh the dms the direct messages to the guy would be the solution for this
and John cannot figure that out
but he thinks that
this is what he thinks is going to go down.
Come on, Adam.
You have time to kiss the Duke's ring.
Oh, God.
Now let's see how quickly
you kiss my ass.
Wow.
He thinks Adam's going to come on here groveling.
Please forgive me, John.
I know I made fun of you and snot hanging off your face on WATP and I was on point dabble point.
It was unwarranted.
Yeah, please, please forgive me for that.
I can't believe I would act that way.
He's so stupid.
And then we find out that the reason why John was willing to have Adam on is because he got paid by Vince the lawyer at $150 over Venmo.
Yeah.
In order for John to even accept having Adam on the show.
Everything has to be a payout.
And John was gloating over $50.
$50.
He was telling Abba about it.
I got $50.
He's like, wow.
Cool, man.
Good stuff.
It's like double Ashley Cummings.
Yeah, I get Ashley Cummings on two and a half times with that.
Adam Bush was supposed to come on.
I sent him the link, but he...
What?
He was there.
But you were going to have Adam on?
Vince the lawyer and his ultimate fucking trolling.
He actually paid me 50 on Venmo to have Adam Bush on.
Okay.
He was sending the link to the wrong email address.
Adam will explain this to him later on when he comes on there.
He's like, was that an AOL email address?
John's like, yeah.
He's like, I don't have an AOL email address.
We've never messaged each other through email.
No.
He's like, we've messaged each other through Facebook.
We're on Instagram.
We're connected.
On Twitter, we're connected.
And that all these ways.
Was so telling about what it's like to probably work with John or do all his work for him.
Yeah.
So I'm going to fast forward to the next day after the interview.
Then we'll back track.
to the interview because I want to show what John thought happened and then we'll show what
actually happened.
Flashback.
This is just one day later.
This is what John said happened during the interview.
It was the whole thing was Adam Bush pivoting and deflecting from the real scumbag that he is.
That's all it was.
He was pivoting and deflecting with this and dusty network talking points.
and I could only assume that Lady Kay was texting him as he went along.
It's amazing because John thinks everyone's doing the same thing he does.
You know, I always say stupid people think everyone else is stupid.
John thinks that Adam couldn't possibly have a conversation with John without me and Shulie.
Don't say this next.
Don't forget to mention this thing.
I was doing none of the sort of it's ridiculous.
Adam could hold his own.
He's fine.
That's so true, but I actually was texting him during this.
I couldn't help it.
Listen, was I texting him when he got kicked off the second time?
Yes.
I was like, dude, get back out there.
That's all I said.
We both were.
Yes, I wasn't telling it what to say or how to say.
I was just like, John just said he unblocked you.
Go back on.
I don't know if you're clipped it.
I sent John a super chat to get Adam back on.
That's right.
Yeah.
But he didn't read until the end.
He's like, I did get him back on.
But isn't it funny, though?
Oh, and when he read my name, he's like, you know, I've donated.
to his son's cancer charity.
Oh, what an idiot.
How's he doing, by the way?
He died.
Oh, no.
Can I get my money back then?
That's how that works.
I have donuts for you.
So John accuses Adam of, you know, he's pivoting and deflecting, and I'm sure he was on
there with Carl getting, you know, information on what to say.
Meanwhile, John had Vince the lawyer and Ava on during the show.
He was obviously messaging with Vegas.
beer sales, Jerry, and in fact, that comes up immediately.
But he's such a disgusting little vile worm, and I didn't even get a chance to bring up his
Missy B and Pocky connection.
I thought I did, but Jerry said I didn't.
But we didn't even get to that hypocrisy.
Hold on.
So now people have to remember things for him.
Yeah, to remind him.
By the way, I texted you to say this and you didn't say that.
Oh, I didn't?
I thought I did.
Is that amazing?
I love how disgusted you are with this guy.
So John gives it away immediately just like this guy needs help from other people.
And by the way, Vegas beer sales, Jerry told me I fucked this thing off that I should have done.
Do you remember when I was on point dabble point and all that motherfucker did was sit there and try to text me talking points while he was drunk?
Yes.
Yeah, that's what he does.
And he was pissed at you for not.
Yeah.
For not reading the talking points.
Yeah.
But yeah, so this is.
This is John's big recap of what went down.
And then we'll show that this is not the case.
at all. Now, when I show you the DMs from Adam Bush to me, you're going to realize that he did the
exact same thing. And that's all I was trying to point out. But he would not answer that question.
No, no, no, no. He would not address the fact that he stabbed me in the back in the same way
Carmix did. Therefore, making him a hypocrite. That's the only reason why I brought him on this program,
that in the 50 bucks. All right. No, he's honest there. So John is claiming that he was trying to
explain to Adam, you once sent me a DM saying you were a big fan of me in order to get on the show,
and now you make fun of me. How do you reconcile that? You know, you've turned on me. You've turned on me.
you're a hypocrite, you stand me in the back,
and he goes, and Adam would not answer that question.
Well, lo and behold, it was the first question John asked him,
and Adam very directly answered that question.
Adam, do you find it a tad hypocritical?
You saying Carmix was a fan of mine and everything,
and then he turned to me,
and then you're saying that if you begged me on Facebook
to have you on my goddamn show,
and then I did it, if you said,
you were so grateful to me for having you on and introducing you to Howard Stern.
And where'd you go?
Shitware and Lady Kay to trash me ad nauseam.
No, I don't.
You don't find it hypocritical.
No.
I told you that on your show, that I was a fan of those shows and I was going on them.
And you said for six months, I don't care.
I don't mind.
Adam's a free agent.
Yes.
I'll do whatever he wants.
Yes, he said, but suddenly, suddenly you go on them and trash me.
No, I do the same thing I did for the first six months.
I don't know what changed after seven, eight months.
What are you talking about?
You were a fan, and then you say you weren't a fan.
I'm still a fan.
I'm a big fan.
I have criticisms about your podcast and your behalf.
Isn't this interesting?
He didn't reflect at all.
He answered it head on.
And this is the thing that John can't wrap his seven-year-old brain around.
this idea that you can both be a fan and critical of something.
I'm a Sabers fan.
I give them way too much money.
They don't deserve it.
I'm very critical of what they've done with this organization.
But I'm still a fan.
I still watch the fucking games.
It's a good example.
You can be a fan of John Melendez and be like, God damn it.
He really needs to stop snotting all over the camera during the show.
And the other thing that he's always self-deluded with is that he's not thin-skinned.
He thinks, you know, he says things like, come.
after me, not my kids, blah, blah, blah.
He can't handle anything.
All he said was it was childish, and that
led to John freaking out like a child,
and then sending the link and having Adam
on here, but it's crazy the next day
he goes, yeah, he just keeps pivoting and deflecting.
Adam's answering this question
very specifically.
You kicked him off twice, dude.
Yeah. Isn't it? What are we talking about?
Hypocritical to say, go ahead,
go on somebody's show, and
then have a fucking temper tantrum about
it for the rest of forever.
Adam was very up front. He's just like, I love the devilverse. I watch all these shows.
I remember when he was on there, this is going back however long ago when Adam was first on with John.
And John goes, well, what about like Shully's show? He's like, yeah, love that one. What about Carl's show? Yeah, love that one.
I watch all the shows, John. All of them. He's very open about that immediately. And John's was like, oh, okay, all right.
I'm still a fan. I'm a big fan. I have criticisms about your podcast and your behavior.
Oh, oh, my behavior. You were the one who said,
And it's been documented.
You sit there with all these assholes and go for me ad nauseam.
W-A-T-P.
There you go.
You see, you can't.
I told you that when we first met and you said.
Why do you feel anil to ballwash them?
To ball-wash who?
I'm saying how I feel.
I'm not expressing anybody else's opinions but mine.
If other people happen to agree and form a subreddit and grow to 10,000,
So again, I just want to point out, this is always about not just someone making fun of them, but a crowd of people.
Right.
It must be ballwashing.
If we play a clip of John and we both agree that John looks foolish in that clip.
Yes.
That has to be ball washing.
And John wants this so badly.
Oh, yeah.
He would love to have the community that we have on Dablers Anonymous, where it's just like him and a bunch of other creators, show hosts getting together.
Could you imagine if John was able to.
to partner with 20 other shows making fun of Shulie.
I can't imagine.
He'd revel.
This is like his goal in life.
Right.
And there's tons of people who would do that, just not with John because he sucks so bad.
I mean, the opportunity is still there.
Right.
I mean, John, it's a challenge there.
Make some talented friends, would you?
Right.
All right.
So, Adam, so let me get the straight.
When you first asked me to come on to my show.
Right.
Did you in your DMs to me, because I'll read them, did you say, John, I'm going to go on your show and then I'm going to go on other shows to trash you?
When we talked to-
Wow, what a gotcha question.
In your initial DM to me, did you say that, by the way, in the future, I'm going to trash you?
No, who would write that in the DM asking if I can come on your show?
Why would anyone write that?
That's retarded.
Look at that fucking crow magnum face.
I know.
John, this is a big gotcha.
But to Adam's credit, the first time these two spoke to each other during John's show, Adam said, I'm going to go on the other shows.
I've been invited and I'm going on.
I did.
No, I'm talking when you DM'd me.
When I DM'd you?
When you were asking me to come on my goddamn podcast, Adam.
Did you say, oh, John, I'm going to go, please have me on your show so then I can go on other shows and trashy.
We didn't talk about anything, and that wasn't the plan, but I told you on your show, and you said that was fine.
And then you said that was fine for eight months.
We have receipts.
No, no, no, no.
What?
Let's start with the impetus.
The crooked fingers out.
The impetus is not the right word.
Hello?
Hello.
Who reached out to who?
I reached out to you many times.
And by the way, John, when you were sending that email to my AOL, we never spoke on AOL, those.
messages you keep threatening to reveal,
which you've already revealed.
Many, like twice, you've already done this.
They're all from Facebook.
So if you wanted to reach out to me,
you could have just used Facebook.
It's right there.
You're in Menza.
Mensa.
I acknowledge you, Adam Bush.
Bravo, sir.
Yeah, he's literally going,
I'm going to read these DMs.
If I could just get in touch with them
so I can send him the link.
So I was just like, dude,
that's how we were communicating.
Just DM me the fucking link.
You idiot.
Wow.
John's got a great excuse for this.
Mensa.
And so that AOL is not you?
No, we never spoke on AOL.
And I think you know that.
Here we go.
When I looked up Adam Bush on my Gmail, that's what came up.
We're connected on every other Instagram, Twitter.
We're connected on all of these things.
You couldn't have just sent it to one of those?
Adam.
What?
I have stated a billion times.
I go on Facebook three times for each.
We're connected on Instagram and X you didn't think of any of those places.
It says Facebook on the message.
I keep holding it.
It says Facebook.
Adam, I have OCD.
I go on my Facebook.
I go on it four times each one.
The messages you had said Facebook,
you could have just done a fifth time and reached out.
You can't.
No, I will not go on it again after I do it.
that's my OCD.
That is the most convenient OCD symptom I've ever heard in my life.
Is it going to come up every time there's an issue?
You're going to say, oh, it's OCD.
That controls this?
You're defending your kids' rights,
and you can't go on Facebook one more time to defend their honor?
Because I'm such a, you know, me and all those people that trash your kids.
That's what you're, what?
What?
That's what you're defending, buddy?
Oh, so you're bringing up my kids?
I will never bring up your kids again.
I don't go on that that's a deflection right there he's talking about pivoting and deflecting
and it wasn't bringing up his kids he's just like yeah I thought you were fighting me for the honor
of your family like why wouldn't you just go on Facebook one more time and message it to me
pivoting and deflecting the dad is making good points yes yeah he hates that on Facebook
okay I got it why didn't you reach out on X or Instagram I don't know are you following me there
You're following me.
I follow you on Instagram.
Well, that'll be fucking changed very soon.
Whoa.
What a threat.
Oh, no.
Taking my ball going home.
Somebody please follow Adam so when he loses that one follower,
he gets a back man away.
He's going to be so distraught.
Fine, I'll follow him.
Please don't do that.
But,
Adam, please don't.
Pokemon, Mike, asked me to have you on.
So I assume they had your,
link.
It's fine.
I don't want.
I'm here now.
It doesn't matter.
It's irrelevant.
What do you care?
No.
What do I care?
You're the one
and brought it up.
Well, we've established that you're lying.
I'm happy to move on.
On Facebook.
Yes.
When I had your DMs,
you were so...
Yes, please, read them.
I stand by every word.
John, tell me about that time
on the Howard Stern Show.
Tell me your memories
of that experience that we had together.
You don't have any.
You don't have any.
know what happened.
Yes.
Okay.
Oh, shit.
We'll get into all of that in just a moment.
But so the other things they talk about are John's, you know, OCD, which we started
talking about there with the Facebook thing.
He can't go on.
He's already been on three times.
So he can't go back on again.
That's like a rule that he has in his brain.
And then also the fact that he's a alcoholic.
And so John the next day brings up they, we're supposed to talk about this stuff.
That was the whole point.
We weren't here to talk about addiction, OCD, or whether I would remember you.
Okay.
So the addiction thing is hilarious.
The way that John responds to this is one of the greatest things I've ever heard John say.
Why is you going to?
Why is that your go-to?
I'll tell you why.
Is that a narrative?
No.
It's because you're an alcoholic, John.
Oh.
And you're a fucking obsessed fan of the devilverse.
That is true.
And mine might be worse.
You're right.
That my thing might actually be worse.
Both are addictions, dumb fuck.
I would not say that one is going to break up my family, but yes, they are both.
Oh, now you're going to bring up family again.
I'm talking about mine.
Goodbye.
Oh, Jesus.
So, John, it's hilarious.
It's like, yeah, both are addictions.
One of them is a little bit more dangerous than the other one as far as, you know,
keeping your family together.
How fucking insane is it that John actually asked someone else?
Why is alcohol your go-to?
Yeah.
He thinks that's just a narrative.
And later on in the interview, Adam's like, you get wasted on your show.
We all watch it.
It happens all the time.
John's like, only when I start podcasting at 6 p.m.
He's got the dumbest excuses.
But I love that Adam goes, you're an alcoholic.
He goes, yeah, but you're addicted to the dabble verse.
Well, that's nothing because you have a gambling problem.
The dumbest response possible.
Yes.
I love that.
John wasn't prepared for any of this, but especially not all those left hooks, straight rights.
Yep.
Yeah, he didn't realize that he was a southpaw.
Yeah.
He was not prepared for this fight at all.
If he ever get, I would love to see an actual intervention with this guy.
Oh, you're all falling into the narrative, huh?
Yeah, where'd you see that, DaBler's anonymous?
No, dad, I'm telling you, you missed a lot of the things.
the important things of my life that I needed you to be there for.
All right, Grotto.
Now, the point that this and John and his little gang of misfit toys, they talk about this
since this interview a lot, that, you know, Adam was bringing up the fact that John doesn't
remember when Adam came on the Stern show to be part of the losers.
You know, he was in the horn section of the losers.
And so Adam was very appreciative of John making that connection so he could get on the Stern show.
he was a big fan of Howard Stern.
And so the point that Adam was making was,
here you are patting yourself on the back,
taking all this credit for getting me on your show.
You didn't even remember doing that.
It might not even happen.
I could have made the whole thing up
because you don't have any memory of it.
And John's warped that into,
and he expects me to remember the day
that he came on the show and what song he played.
Like, Adam didn't say any of those things.
All Adam said was,
stop patting yourself on the back
for a thing you don't even remember.
Yeah.
You could tell,
John that he's the guy who sent Gary the retard to the moon and he would take credit for it.
Yes. We've seen it happen before where someone tells him he did a thing and he goes, yeah,
that's right, I did do that thing. It's like, no, that actually was Ganges or that was Grillo
who did that. It doesn't matter. If you tell him he did something, he thinks he did it, if it's good.
And on the converse, if you tell him your enemy did something, he wants to believe that too.
Yes. All right. So this is, getting back to these doom clips, did a great job.
this is discussing just DMing the link
when I looked up Adam Busch on my Gmail
that's what came up we're connected on every other
Instagram Twitter we're connected on all of these things
you couldn't have just sent it to one of those
Adam what I have stated a billion times
I go on Facebook three times for each
we're connected on okay so that's him explained that's his OCD
right that he
only go on Facebook three times.
So that's why he couldn't go back on again.
So Adam rightfully points out that this OCD thing seems to be a crutch for bad behavior.
You, as someone who's watched your show a lot, it only comes up when you need an excuse for
bad behavior or something you don't want to answer.
And that's what you did today.
I've never seen it actually inhibit in a bad way.
We only see it when you need to deflect or get out of an answer.
So it makes it suspect.
My car's messy.
I have OCD.
I can't answer.
I couldn't send you the link.
I have OCD.
It's never something that actually hurt you.
It's always like me and these wonderful celebrities that I bring up are sharing in this thing that is my excuse.
Like I was an hour for whenever you had to answer to something.
So now you're trying to say.
So in other words, you ask my opinion.
That was it.
Okay.
So in the words, you are going to say that because I say you're in your mom.
I only bring it up when it's something that is called out.
Like when you said Facebook, that is where I bring it up.
And now you're probably texting.
Because for 20 minutes, you said, I can't get a hold of him while you're holding
and threatening to show these DMs that said Facebook and big letters on them.
You're a smart guy.
You can look down.
I don't go on Facebook.
See, that's convenient.
I'm not unaware.
It's OCD.
No, it is very OCD.
And by the way, I have said on numerous occasions on my show, without any argument,
I have said I have to take this sip and then that's it.
I have said that.
Oh, I know you have.
You don't watch me.
You say a lot of things.
Oh.
So in other words, in other words, it's only when it suits you.
No, I have an objective opinion.
I have said, when I walk out to my steps, I have to count them to get my beer.
I've said that on numerous occasions.
But that's not okay.
How do you know I don't have OCD?
I am never a huge.
Now you're deflecting.
Answer the question.
I just did because you use it.
Adam.
Yeah, that's fine.
You've said that to build this argument.
Let me finish now.
I have said on numerous occasions.
Oh, I had to plug this in three times.
I had to do that.
I had to take five steps in my bathroom.
That was not a part of an argument.
And you said you got a $690 on the L-SAT.
Like, what are you talking about?
No, I did not.
Whatever score.
You lie all the time.
Why is that the one we're supposed to be?
Wow.
Deflecting what?
Answer the question.
My question is, what's the question?
My question is, you have said that I only use OCD when you need it.
Yeah, you're smart enough to know you got to spread around to lie a little bit.
You can't just, you got to make it more.
I can sink in.
So in other words,
what did you get on the LSAT?
What did you get on the LSAT?
I'm showing subjective data that you lie.
Okay.
All right.
Very well played by Adam right there.
And John just like,
how can it possibly not be true?
I talk about it all the time.
It's like, yeah, you lie all the time.
It's been well-established.
The 640 on the LSAT
just being the most recent example of this.
On a sad note,
all I can think of when I'm watching John try to win this
and he can't.
is what his kids and wife must have had to listen to, if any of them had a valid point or criticism.
It's a blitzkrieg of bullshit that just comes flying at you, and it's loud, and it is so designed and has worked so much through his life of just spewing shit at people until they go, okay, John.
Exactly.
They're exhausted and embarrassed for him, and they're like, this is not worth my time.
It's so funny because, you know, John's saying this is a deflection.
And all that Adam is pointing out here is that John has zero credibility.
Yeah.
You can't just sit here and go, oh, well, this must be true because I said it.
It's like, no, you say things that are lies all the time, all the time.
More often than not, to be honest with you.
Yeah.
And Adam points out, yeah, you have to keep that lie going to make it credible.
Right.
It's a convenient lie.
That's the point Adam's making is.
It's a great lie for you.
You definitely keep it around.
Oh, later on the show, I think Johnny,
said something to Vince the lawyer when he comes on.
He was just like, why would I lie about having OCD?
It's like, well, because, you know, it can be convenient for you.
You can make up excuses.
Oh, it's great.
Yeah, it was just like, there's a definite reason why you would lie about that.
Well, this effectively takes away one of John's most important excuses for his shitty behavior.
So that's why he had to come on the show the next day and talk about his OCD.
Hold on a second.
I've got to brush my hair.
Oh, yeah.
This is pathetic.
This is pathetic.
Turn light on, brush hair.
Turn light off, take three footsteps, three on the next square, then one on each square going
after the carpet, breathe out on the two in the, on the carpet, then on the last three squares,
getting out of the door, breathe in, one, two, three, then at least take, breathe in on one step,
one, and then I can go then breathe in on two, breathe out for two, breathe in for two,
breathe out for two until I get into this room,
then at least take three steps on the carpet
before I get behind the desk.
But apparently that OCD is all made up.
It sounds made up.
Yeah.
That ritual is ridiculous.
I have to drink 16 beers.
Yeah, like how do you get to that place
where it's like, then I take two breaths and I take three?
When he's hammered at night,
does he remember to do this?
No, he can't remember the beginning of his sentence.
I would love for him to try to go through that again.
Yeah, right.
It's going to be easy.
for him to breathe in there without the litter boxes.
So, right.
I'm like, get better.
I was looking up treatment for OCD because John claims, he's on all this medication.
And he was studied at Columbia, which Dr. C. was on B. Dabler today.
And he was looking up whether there was ever a study for OCD using an MRI.
It was like, that didn't happen.
It happened.
The first time it happened was like in 96 in California.
So John's just making shit up.
He's full of shit as usual.
And the way that.
that you treat OCD is focusing on confronting feared situations without performing rituals.
So in other words, what you do is you go, okay, now John, you're going to go brush your hair,
you're not going to do any of those things, and we're going to see if anything bad happens.
And so you start to break these whatever cognitive ideas that if I don't do this, my mom will
fall down the stairs or whatever dumb bullshit you're making up in your head, which you're 60 years old.
I understand OCD is a real thing, but this is fucking retarded what he's talking about.
This is mental illness at, like, a ridiculous level.
Yeah, and a total lack of research on his part.
He could have looked up the basics of it.
Yeah, look up the basics of it.
This is like Cartman when he has Tourette's.
Yeah, it might be a little heavy-handed.
I mean, honestly, again, everything with John, you have to remember he's a seven-year-old child.
He thinks stepping out of crack is going to break his mother's back.
But it's like, this is not how OCD works.
Do I get to keep the house?
He told me he scored a 690 on the OCD.
test, Carl.
Out of what?
It doesn't matter.
Anyway.
So that is so ridiculous.
And he's very upset that
Adam claims that he's making this up.
Can you imagine
telling somebody
that they are making up
a disorder?
Can you imagine the audacity?
Yeah, you're a known liar.
That was the point Adam was making.
It's like, yeah, you definitely make that up.
Why wouldn't you make up all sorts of shit?
So,
I don't know why John even addresses this.
Now, as Ava said,
why even defend this nonsense?
But I will.
As I told Ava for two more hours.
If I didn't defend my honor.
So Ava's even trying to give him good advice here.
Yes.
And just be like, listen, it's the reaction.
Stop, step it on the rakes, John.
It's the reaction that everyone's clipping and making fun of you for.
That's why you're a little cow.
And what honor?
Imagine if I started out WATP spending an hour ranting on how I don't eat poop.
I don't know where this rumor got started.
There's no visual evidence.
The objective data will tell you I'm not eating poop.
I'm in pretty good health most of the time.
But this is what John does.
He's just like, we don't think he have OCD.
And so he has to go through and try to prove that he does.
Like if someone brings up stuttering.
Yes.
Oh, Adam brought that up too.
He's like, you stammer when you're nervous.
You're not a stutterer, John.
You got pissed about that, too.
It's a great interview.
Anyway, so this is John making up something else that he already got caught on, but he has to double down on it.
And I went to one of those, one of those things called the, you know, well, you don't have to pay a lot of money, like, like the, you know, for whatever it was.
And I went to the psychiatrist there who prescribed me anaphynal.
And now these idiots, oh, anaphernal wasn't approved to late enough.
bullshit.
They prescribed me an afronil.
So John said when he was in community college,
he got prescribed an afronil for his OCD.
And people quickly looked it up
and the FDA didn't approve it until 1989.
And John was in community college in 84 and 85.
So he's like, no, that didn't happen, John.
You made that up.
And even when he's presented with evidence
that he's definitely lying, he goes, nope, that happened.
Like, fuck, John.
Can't you just say like he got the medication wrong or something?
He can't.
He can't help.
himself.
Yeah, maybe that wasn't the medication.
I was definitely on that later.
Yeah, they gave me something.
They didn't know how to treat it back then.
Like, whatever.
You could say anything you want.
But no, John has to make this shit up.
And then he tells
this story.
These stories that he tells us to prove that he has OCD are insane.
Because he's talking about all the different medications
that he's tried over the years to cure his OCD.
If Adam Bush was really a stern fan,
if you can recall,
when I rented my place out
the Ganges and Grillo.
What medication
did they find
in my apartment?
The shithole that Jackie
let me use.
The sixth floor walk up.
What medication, which is documented
on the Stern show?
Way before, Miss America.
The medication
was Prozac.
And Howard asked me,
why
was I taking Prozac?
And I'm sure you said it could
for my OCD,
and that was back in 92,
so that would definitely prove
that that was what the issue was.
And of all the performative Johns,
the speech-giving one is the worst
because it takes forever to get through.
Yeah.
He's talking slower than Frenchy.
Yep.
Yeah.
And Adams basically,
doesn't he basically say,
you got this idea so you could be like,
Howard and try to have something in
common with Howard. Yeah, because Howard did
OCD. And now you're on the show and you
saying, oh, and I told Howard
I had OCD is just you
trying to suck up to Howard and...
Well, sorry, I paused. I didn't mean for the
Estirreld. This is what John actually says.
And I lie.
I said to help me
become a better guitar
player. That's right.
So John's whole
anecdote of Prusian OCD is that
there was Prozac in his apartment. And
said he was to have him become a better guitar player.
That's why he was taking it.
So was he lying then? Is he lying now?
He has no credibility.
So I lie.
So I lied.
Yeah.
So I lied about it.
I totally lost track.
I thought the whole point of his speech was that he doesn't lie.
Dude, it gets even funnier.
Because...
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Listen to this.
Yeah, this is nuts.
That's right.
Adam.
I lied.
Why?
Because I wanted to protect myself from the embarrassed.
that I suffered
from a debilitating
disorder.
Oh,
oh, so you lie
because you'd be embarrassed
if people knew the truth.
Oh,
well,
then that's fine.
So he drank that self-preservation.
It staked away,
huh?
Dude,
he talked about how he lied
about driving for Uber
because he was embarrassed.
Yeah.
Because when he finally got called on it,
because we saw it in the divorce papers
or the child support paperwork,
we started he was driving for Uber.
He's just like,
why lie because I was embarrassed by it.
Like, yeah,
it's why people lied.
That's why you're a liar because you're embarrassing on a lot of shit.
It makes perfect sense.
And then he talks about how he was going to see a psychiatrist for his OCD when he was dating Susanna.
Susanna used to come and meet me at my doctor's office.
But I told Susanna it was a back doctor.
Why?
Because I was incredibly embarrassed.
about suffering from the debilitating disorder
known as obsessive,
compulsive disorder.
So he also lied to his future wife.
Wow, what a guy.
What does that prove again?
Exactly.
Why the fuck is he going down this road?
The worst argument ever.
He had a whole day to think about it and all his friends.
Sure.
And it's still just hearsay.
And you know how you know I'm telling the truth
because I've been lying about it for decades.
Right.
This is why he should never take the stand in any scenario.
the worst at it. Oh man, I can't wait to see him down at the courthouse.
Can I get a beer?
So anyway, great job, Adam Bush. We'll talk to him. We got on Wednesday, W-TP.
I know. Get his thoughts on this.
You're a hero, Adam. Adam. Adam crushed it. I got notes from multiple celebrities of the Dabbleverse.
Congratulations Adam. Oh, and how on Mike was he?
He was very on Mike. Yeah. He's learned from the best.
He learned from a pro, even though I do turn my head.
Did you teach him?
Motherfucker.
I see what you did there.
All right.
I want to know what's going on with the internet and the internet news segment.
Internet news with Jenny Jiggles.
From Patreon, the negative creep admits I've asked tons of girls that they take it in the ass.
It usually goes over well, but I'm a charming, inoffensive British man.
People assume I'm joking.
Don't be so transparent, John.
No one knows I jerk off to my dinner party guests.
I've said too much.
Scola! Deluxe entices us with. Anyone ever see that old video of Nia Burr getting in that brawl at
a Waffle House? She got disrespected and it was classic. Andrew gets quizzical. Jennifer Jingles is
wonderful. Been a member for a couple of years and I do have to say she and Carl are really starting
to look similar. Not trying to be weird because Jenny's hot, but just saying, five stars.
Larry Lubowski breaks it down. Transitive reasoning states that you think Carl's hot. From Reddit,
entire Adiago asks, how many episodes of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer has John been on.
Adam will wait.
Major landscape writes,
What a morning.
Woke up and immediately watched a murder.
Well done, Adam.
Michael Popak reports.
Adam destroyed him.
The drunk ape tries to debate with people
that are very intelligent,
while he is a simpleton.
It didn't go well for the drunk ape.
No weakness is stoked.
Can't wait to see the string of lies
SJ puts together to put this fire out.
Beginning pinpoints out,
the dummy lies so much,
he can't keep his story the same for 15 seconds.
pure wet brain. Yorkies and sneakers noticed.
Ava kept shoving him back in the ring.
The ghoul is playing him.
Hard. Dark Hawk, 007.
This was fantastic.
I'm shocked he was even allowed to come on.
Based on his fear of having Shulier Anthony on for a debate,
Adam would dance circles around all of them,
and John's team should have known this.
S.J. looked like he was about to cry in frustration at a couple points.
And from YouTube, Evan Schmidt shares,
this is my first exposure to Whitney Cummings.
Wow, she is insufferable.
Weird medicine responds to Whitney's diatribe.
not how leprosy works, by the way.
DLW. Seattle opines,
nobody on the planet is less punk rock than Whitney Cummings.
Joky Jackman brags.
I figured out jailbreak in two seconds.
Bro Crow inquires,
did Obie ever find his family in the end?
Or are they still missing?
Coach Mike Rodick reminds us,
Cardiff Electric is a troll in a figurative sense.
Suttering John looks like an actual troll.
Edward Rodriguez offers,
John, you fell down the stupid ugly tree and hit every branch.
Hellraiser 69 coming in with
The single life has been very, very good to me.
Has it?
J.S. Music and drums.
What a mess.
Always a mess.
So much losing from just one man.
And Bracea plays out with,
how can you list the top five dabble ladies
and not include Helga Man?
That's gross.
Oh, they're having fun on that internet over there.
You know what else you can do on the internet is you can go to patreon.com slash the creepoff
and vote for your buddy Carl to win the creep off.
If you're not paying attention to this,
every single week,
a competition to figure out who the biggest creep is in various categories.
And people can watch that 1 p.m. Eastern Time on Mondays.
That's right, right on the Who Are These Podcast Channel as well as the Creepoff channel every
Monday.
It stays up there.
You can watch any time after.
And also, if you like listen to the podcast, download the creep off wherever you listen to
podcast.
Yes, we have a lot of fun over there.
It's a heated competition right now.
It is.
It's three to two.
I'm in the lead right now.
We play to five each round.
Are you all caught up on your consequences?
I am.
Okay.
Everyone's caught up on consequences right now, and we're always looking for new consequence suggestions.
So, hey, what's the guest score at?
Four.
Four.
Oh.
Sorry we haven't had a guest in a while.
That explains it.
Yeah.
You know, I actually just got, as we were sitting here, listening to Net News, a suggestion
for the wheel.
Okay.
Loser has to wear a propeller hat and hold a giant lollipop while giving a presentation on the Holocaust.
I'm in.
Oh, did Lucy send you that?
Yeah.
Can I just use a propeller hat?
the video of me doing that from the past or
have to do it again. You have to do it again.
Nice try. Carl and kindergarten.
My buddy Drew Lane.
Ha ha, I just jumped on. It looks like this is a very
brisk show. Carl won't be late for the pre-bills
game spread. Good move. Go bills.
Go bills. Indeed, Drew. I'm so pissed.
They scheduled it. 430 Saturday game. Motherfuckers.
So let's run through it. We got some
voicemails.
The Gary and San Diego rock and roll out voicemail
segments. It's a bunch of crap.
Swing in a mix.
Rock and roll.
Yeah, I'm watching the video of your
Law Cow Queen podcast.
And that fat dude looks like Penny Paul, you know.
It's pretty funny.
You should show Vinny that.
I saved that one because I knew you were coming on.
Oh, you're sweet.
I know.
I'm the bus.
Sometimes producer Chris's interjections and callbacks
are so combined and lightning quick
that he doesn't get joking.
support, so I'm here to recognize
one from last episode.
The Whitney
Cummings buying views
and she said something about power aid,
Gatorade.
Then Carl said
the powers
that be and producer Chris
just said aid.
Just lightning quick.
Anyway, no joke support
from Carl or Adam.
They're used to it. But
I had an earbud in welding.
outside Detroit.
You should weld when you're asleep.
I just wanted Chris to know that I heard him.
I see you.
I appreciate you.
Okay, it's getting creepy.
That is all.
I'm glad he didn't lose an eye over it.
I know.
That would have been a shitty way to add that, Kyle.
I like to weld on ludes.
Who doesn't?
Oh, this is funny.
So many way to do it.
Did you guys hear the story about John going to Cincinnati
and not being able to find a single store
that sold a men's belt.
Oh, yeah.
We got to the bottom of it.
Okay.
Yeah, this is the belt niggler, and I have successfully stolen every belt from a 30-mile radius of John Melendid.
As a peace offering to you, Carl.
Okay.
Could I hang out with you guys for a little bit?
Yes, you certainly can.
Belt Niggler.
Congratulations on that.
Very impressive.
Holy shit.
It's for colon cancer.
There is, yes.
Can someone please take a shit in a cola guard box?
and then send it to Stuttering John's house.
That would be a pretty funny prank.
I'm for it.
Another delivery?
I am for it.
Joe in Pennsylvania,
sticking up for the Scranton airport,
the airport that I had to,
well,
Jenny Jingles picked Adam up from it.
I drove him back to it for the Villa Roma Content Hotel.
Hey, Joe from Pennsylvania.
Long time.
So I love the bit,
given poor Adam Bush a hard time for not speaking
into the microphone because I am lifting up my hypocrisy police t-shirt from when your buddy Mike was in
to talk about Howard Stern and I don't think he was in the same room as the Mike.
But I will be damned if I will sit here and allow you to sully the good name of the Scranton
Wilkes-Barre Airport, docking myself.
Next time you fly somebody in to that podunk town, give me a call, I'll pick him up,
save you the ride, I'll bring them up to Rochester, whatever's going on.
Don't call me back.
Joe, we'll never be using that airport again.
I was going to say, oh, we're not doing Villa Roma three times a year now?
No.
Yeah, I was going to route my trip to Hackamania through Scrant Wilkes-Bur.
Oh, this is an interesting, Bill Burr theory.
Hey, what up?
It's Jocles.
I got a theory for you on Burr's podcast.
I don't think Nia actually respect him enough to spend the time listening to his podcast.
Okay.
If she's anything like any of.
of these other, you know, celebrity wives like Beth or, you know, whoever, she has,
she wants nothing to do with what Billy's producing.
I think the therapist listens.
I think he's doing this for the therapist, and this is the only thing that she knows how
to access of Bill's work, and they're seeing the therapist together, and this is the therapist
saying, oh, I can tell you're doing all the right stuff in your relationship because I
hear it on the podcast.
Anyways, it's just my thoughts.
That's interesting.
Interesting theory.
Yeah.
My theory was I didn't think there was really a therapist.
Yeah, that's also a possibility.
How fucking annoyed would you be if you're paying for a therapist and they're charging
you to listen to your podcast to analyze your relationship?
Well, I mean, if Bill's trying to manipulate the therapist, but it's actually working out
very well.
Okay.
For a point.
I would think.
Yeah, that's a direct line.
Do you guys remember Whitney Cummings had that joke about lifeguards being mascots?
on the beach.
Oh, yeah.
It was really dumb.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Her whole thing about lifeguards was misguided.
Well, it pissed somebody off.
Hey, it's the Arborist again.
Sorry for calling twice.
I just felt like I had to do like an arbacultural duty.
You know, it's actually Smokey Bear.
Smokey the Bear is a common misconception.
Don't like yourself.
Bye.
The Arborist lets us know that Wendy Cummings out as a mascot like Smokey the Bear.
It's just Smokey Bear.
Do you guys know that?
No.
I didn't know that at all either.
Thank you for letting us know that.
Hey, Carl, I was listening to the Whitney Cummings thing,
and maybe this isn't the right platform for the question,
but I have a buddy starting a podcast,
and he's just starting out.
So I was wondering if buying those Google ads is worth it,
just to get more beginning and stuff,
or if he should just blow wealthy, famous people,
like Anthony Kumia and Drew Lane.
Oh, okay.
Now, keep in mind, he doesn't like eating shit or guzzling tongue.
Okay.
So if you could, uh, let me know, I'll pass it up.
I see what you did there, sir.
If you think that either Drew Lane or Anthony Kumia, let me suck their dicks, you are
incorrect, my friend.
With those teeth?
I was told no on multiple occasions, unfortunately.
So I was thinking about this.
John's always hitting on all these women.
Why have he not tried getting with Abba?
Some people should get in the farmer section and ask him about it or convince him
that'd be something to see Abba and John getting together.
He knows to watch his homophobic come out when it's brought up to him that he should get with a trans person.
So call me back.
It actually happens all the time.
People ask him if he would date Abba all the time.
And he always says no.
I like how she gets herself dolled out.
out for him, too, for every episode.
See how she had her hair on that last one?
She looked like a Kingsguard in front of Buckingham Alice.
Is Alpha even a trans person?
I don't even know.
I don't either.
Yeah, I think it's just a dude with tits.
But I could be wrong.
Callback Curtis.
This might be a callback Curtis voicemail.
Could be a misdirect.
Maybe it's Nate.
Yeah, it's a game.
Everything can be a fucking misdirect.
Christ.
But I good job on the motion.
calling it now.
John's going to back out of the lawsuit in 10 days,
or first he's going to try to make deals with you before he does it.
All right, call me back to pass.
They already tried to make a deal with us.
But yeah, I'll be interesting to see what happens.
Moving it to Rochester.
Wee.
That's the spirit.
The other thing that Whitney Cummys was talking about
was the fact that all of us people who are critical of her
would not be drafted for World War III.
I actually agree with Whitney Cummings.
If we go to World War III, Carl, I don't want you drafted, because I'm old as fuck, so they won't draft me.
And then I'll have nothing to listen to, and that would be bullshit.
Also, if they draft producer Chris, I'm pretty sure he's never going to call me back.
That would be a problem.
Do you guys remember during the lockdowns that there were, what do they call them, essential jobs?
Yeah, essential workers.
And podcasters was one of those.
Really?
We were an essential worker.
We were in that category.
So I have a feeling that that's my get out of World War III free card.
I love to go fight the Japanese.
But unfortunately, I'm a podcaster.
Will it get me out of Civil War, too?
Probably.
Nice.
That and just your physical appearance.
They put boys like me on the front lines, Carl.
Oh, be nice.
The creepoff.com is where you can go.
and don't forget to like to make fun of it anymore.
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Can I just throw a plug out for my pal Jim Florentine who did that earlier?
I'm actually happy to say we just booked some shows we're going to be doing coming up May 8th and 9th.
I'm going to be down in Broken Skull Brewing in Endicott, New York, and then at Rob's Comedy Playhouse in Buffalo, May 8th and 9th.
Jim Florin.com for ticket links.
Jimforantine.com.
All right, we got to go watch a Bills game
Yes
I gotta go
Bye
I gotta go
I gotta go
I gotta go
I gotta go
I gotta go
I don't
Okay
And that's the end of that chapter
Oh what you're not gonna put your plane crash
Into Vinnie Paulino
fucking drop out there
You pussy's
We're trying to be nice
Do it to my face
You pussies
