Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep711 - Sol Ringers
Episode Date: March 22, 2026Maddox is back to podcasting! He’s teamed up with another total dork to discuss Magic the Gathering. Chad Kultgen is ordering random cards and showing them to you while Maddox brags about the cool p...eople he plays Magic with at his local hobby store. Doug from Good Times Great Movies joins us to try to figure out how Magic works. A long-time radio DJ makes his embarrassing return on YouTube with America’s RadCast. Opie is totally fired up on an explosive FU Friday where gas prices are put on blast. Ethan Ralph wants to team up with Stuttering John and we’re rooting for it. Dan from Nice Podcast Stupid is the latest loser to buddy up to Stuttering John with some endgame in mind, obviously. Dan is doing a terrible job because he's laying it on way too thick and everyone (except for John) is catching on. Will Ava allow there to be more than one StutJo ball washer? Doug's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GoodTimesGreatMovies Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: http://bit.ly/watp-patreon https://watp.supercast.tech/ Come to Hackamania! April 10-12 in Las Vegas, use promo code WATP for 10% off – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today, we'll be reviewing Soul Ringers.
This is a suggestion from Rayer of Damarnia in our Discord.
We've each listened separately.
We've not discussed it with each other beforehand.
Let's get into it.
Soul Ringers is a brand new show.
It's up on YouTube with 424.
Nope, 427 subscribers.
It just changed.
I should probably share my screen so you can see what I'm talking about here.
This is the YouTube page, and this is a show that is about Magic the Gathering.
It is hosted by Maddox and Chad Colchin.
And, of course, Maddox.
being the man who used to do biggest problem in the universe with Dick Masterson
until they had their big falling out.
And Maddox sued Dick for $20 million.
I wonder what that's like.
That sounds wild.
$20 million lawsuit.
He failed spectacularly.
And people have been clowning Maddox ever since.
Dick and I have had a lot of fun with Maddox's books.
We had a blast with Fuck the Whales.
His most recent book, that is terrible.
And full disclosure, I was a huge Maddox fan when I was younger and he had the greatest page in the universe.
I liked his blog.
I liked his essays.
I thought they were very funny.
And I even owned a couple of his books.
I was a big Maddox fan.
Man, he has lost it.
And now that he's getting close to 50 years old, him and his good buddy are talking about Magic the Gathering.
So can I jump in here real quick?
Because I do have a question.
When you talked about a multimillion?
dollar lawsuit. Like, if I had $20 million, this is a show that I would make. It makes total sense for
someone that has nothing to lose, nothing to gain, and simply time on their hands. But the fact that
he does not have $20 million makes this even more baffling. I don't know what he does. We've been
trying to figure this out for a while. Did he save his money from banana doxing? I don't think banana
Docs made a ton of money.
So I don't know what he does for a living.
He still refers to himself as a creator, as we'll see, and a writer, even though he hasn't created or written anything, since the documentary he made.
Oh, yeah.
Where it tried to paint Dick Masterson as his stalker.
And he spent five years putting together a two-hour-long documentary that just made it look like Maddox is the one stalking Dick.
Because Dick's like, why just make fun of stuff you put on the internet, man?
I don't go to your house or anything.
I don't get me.
Including this.
Yeah, exactly.
And then, yeah, it's a very funny tale, the way that it all went down.
So we haven't seen Maddox in a while.
And it's very cool that he has cropped up now with his buddy.
I just wanted to point out.
So the videos, the very first video that came out two weeks ago has 1,800 views.
And then the next one has 1100.
Chad put out a video by himself without Maddox.
That one has 1,600 views from a week ago.
That's the one that Doug was checking out.
So it's kind of funny that for some reason, Doug by himself,
gets more, or Doug, Chad by himself gets more views than Maddox.
And then they just put out one today, or I guess yesterday, it's got 235 views on it,
called Brackets, because, you know, it is March Mandus.
And I just want to point out these thumbnails.
Madison is always making the same strained, goofy face in all of these.
You're talking about a fucking card game for teenagers, and he's like,
you don't have to be a pirate.
It's just a magic the gather.
You want a piece of this?
Right, it's not a wrestling promo.
What are you doing?
So weird.
All right, let's start off with the very first episode,
the introduction to the show
so we can get to know our hosts a little bit.
Hey, I'm Maddox.
I'm Chad Colchin.
We are both longtime writers and content creators
and believe it or not,
Magic the Gathering players.
Yeah.
All right.
Maddice comes off.
is so pompous.
We're both writers and content creators.
I've never met someone I like
who introduced themselves as a content creator.
If you tell me you're a content creator,
we'll never talk again.
What a weird thing to say.
That's red flags all of the place.
Yeah.
And he's so smug, you're just like,
we're content creators and guess what?
We like Magic the Gathering.
Yeah, I got the sense.
You started a show about it.
This looks horrible.
I don't understand.
the green screen. They're not
sitting next to each other, right?
Or maybe they are.
His co-hists has leaned in
toward the camera. He's lounging back,
but when he turns to look at his co-host,
it doesn't appear that he's looking at him.
I was so confused
over where this is filmed.
Also, I am,
truth be told, in case people don't know why I'm
wearing hats all the time. I am a bald man.
And there's a couple reasons why I wear
a hat. Number one, I find
watching bald people distract him.
I can't help but look at their bald head when I'm watching.
Plus,
I have overhead lights and it reflects.
It's not a great look.
If my co-host were also a bald white man
wearing the same colored t-shirt as I was,
somebody put on a hat.
This is a horrible look.
You'd be able to tell you each other apart.
Yeah.
But Maddox does have the little Gorbachev thing that's going on his head now.
So that kind of, that's what you're like,
oh, that one's Maddox.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
That's good to know.
So I'll just explain what the graphics are here.
So you have soul ringers that's on fire, actively flaming out.
And then you have magic cars that are just dancing around behind them the entire time.
And this first episode, there's also a music bed that's way too out in the mix, the whole episode.
The amount of AI slop they put into these videos as well is wildly distracting and also far more interesting than anything they're saying.
I mean, it is well produced, right?
I mean, to some degree.
Okay.
No.
Yeah, right.
I tried.
Well, this video is called, why is everyone, why is everyone talking about magic the gathering?
Where do you hang out?
It's all I hear.
I'm always, I'm always trying to pick up chicks in the bar.
I'm like, what's your favorite rare card?
You know?
Hey, where are you going?
Carl, just the fact that you said rare card makes you more knowledgeable about this than I am.
I put in the work, man.
I was researching you today.
I think I know a couple, two, three things I can tell you about magic.
Believe it or not, Magic the Gathering Players.
Yeah, I played back in the 90s when I was in high school.
I know that's a long time ago.
No, that actually makes sense.
That's good.
Stop right there.
But after a lot of years off, I've now come back full circle and I'm hardcore back into Magic
the Gathering again.
We started talking.
And now we're going to make some content about how this thing has destroyed our lives.
Yes.
much so and we kind of learned by accident we were just grabbing dinner one night and we just
don't know him get talked about why do i think they're gay i know he says he's like hey we're just
kind of like grabbing dinner on that and chad whipped out a deck to start shuffling
about magic the gathering it says you want to start a youtube channel yeah and now we're doing it
and this is that all right so that's the back story on this one he's so romantic but
Just from friends I know and stuff like that.
If anybody says, like, I used to be into something in high school and now I'm back to it,
I immediately think, well, your family left you.
Like your wife left you.
That's the reason this happened.
I was into it.
And there's the messy divorce.
I'm back in.
And I sleep in a race car back.
All right.
So second episode, I was checking out.
In the second episode, there is a tease to start things off that's going to get everyone
excited to continue watching.
ATP today. The top three
selling sets of all time
for Magic the Gathering are
Whoa, can they even say that
on YouTube? Is that allowed?
They're going to tell us the top three selling sets of Magic
I think that's illegal. Holy shit.
That's awesome. I can't wait.
I'm all in. I didn't think
anything would give Jack to Upperview
Show a run for its money.
I know that music.
Do you know why it's called
Soul Ringers, Doug?
No. That's insane.
Now, of course,
The sole ring card is a very desirable card.
And there's different versions of it.
I saw some selling for as much as $90 on the internet for the soul ring card.
And, you know, it's a ring that all white goes through.
And the fact that you don't know that, like, how could you even get this show, Doug?
I'm so disappointed.
I think that may have been the problem here.
There's definitely a problem.
The assignment itself was a huge problem when it came to me.
I, and I know this is for some people.
And I've been on your show.
We've talked about a D&D podcast before.
And if I'm listening to somebody being like, I'm a rogue and I stabbed a goblin in the eye,
like that's a plot line I can understand.
Even though I don't play it and I have no experience with it, I understand this.
This was all nonsense to me.
I didn't understand a word that they were saying.
Yeah, it's tough.
I tried my best.
I did do some research and tried to look things up.
But the episode two is,
all about universes beyond.
And what that is,
is that magic partners
with other IP.
So whether it's Lord of the Rings
or Star Trek or they give different examples,
you can then get magic decks
that are full of the characters from that other thing.
Okay.
All right.
They even have the office.
It gets ridiculous.
Yeah, it gets ridiculous.
But let's find out.
They're probably going to have strong opinions
about the universe.
versus beyond. This is our video about universes beyond. Do you like it? Do you hate it? Is it good?
Is it bad? Or is it something in between, which is what I would argue. All right. So we already know that he's
I have no opinion about this at all. Matt. This isn't going to be boring. He's like, oh, it's not good.
It's not bad. Somewhere in the middle there. And Maddox looks at impressed by everything he says.
He's just like, yeah. Go get him, Chad. Yeah, yeah. He sees these two are lovebirds for sure.
Is one deemed a magic expert?
Is one like a magic expert and the other one's more a novice?
Or are they both like at the same level?
Did you get a sense?
They both think they're experts.
Okay.
They try to impress each other with some of the conversations they have.
All right.
Okay.
Well, except for, I will tell you this, Maddox wasn't following it all that closely until he got back into it in 2020.
And so there were things that he didn't realize were happening.
I didn't like it.
I did not like that first drop.
Were you into it?
I didn't even know about it until years later.
Why is that funny?
There's a lot of times when Max will just say something factual and then they'll both giggle to each other.
What did you think about the first drop of the universe is beyond?
I didn't know about it.
Come on.
Yes, you did.
So, but then we find out what his opinion is of it.
Had I known about the, the Walking Dead thing, I think I would have had the same reaction.
Like, this is weird.
This is just a person.
I don't want to see a person on my card.
I want to see.
Well, it was, it kind of trailed off there, Matt.
I want to see Dicks.
So, Maddice could have just said, yeah, I didn't care for it.
You know, I started with the Walking Dead.
It was kind of weird.
Instead of he has to be like, I didn't know about it.
It's like, it's going through the whole thing.
It's just not that interesting.
Like have a take and don't suck. Tell us what you think about it. Now, Doug, you watch an episode that is just the other guy, Chad. And what is he doing? Opening up boxes of cards or? So from the jump in the episode, he mentions that what he likes to do is to get stoned, watch YouTube videos about magic cards, then order those cards. And then at some point they show up and he doesn't really know what he's about to open. So it's, it's a lot.
like an unboxing if you're constantly surprised by the envelope that you're opening.
And all of this stuff, the other thing is, I don't know where he's getting this.
I assume eBay, because everything's packaged differently.
Things are just being regular envelopes, just wrapped up in a one came in like a flattened
mac and cheese box and stuff, which he's fascinated by.
He thinks this is the most amazing thing.
That's what this is.
But in older versions of WATP, Carl, you used to ask people.
what the show was to them.
Or an example of the show.
What's a clip that sums up this show for you,
that's what it is. Jesus Christ, I did such a terrible job.
So,
I had to tag
most of my clips
because the content is so dull.
Anyway, play number
three, this is a great
synopsis of this show.
This is Adeline, resplendent
Cathar, legendary creature,
Human Knight, Star 4.
It's two white and one other,
vigilance adeline resplendent cathars power is equal to the number of creatures you control whenever
you attack for each opponent create a one one white human creature token that's tapped in attacking
that player or a plainswalker they control why is he reading the card to us i don't he reads every
he reads every card to us and also like i don't i don't want to tell them to how to do their show
because i don't know anything about magic but like they never talk about they never give
a beginner or a novice any information about this.
And I know you don't need to.
But it feels like I walked in in like the third,
the middle of the third season of Game of Thrones.
And I'm just trying to watch it.
And there's not even anybody there to tell me who's who or what's happening.
I guess if you're into this,
you're into this.
But the whole time I'm watching and I'm like,
well,
you're unboxing stuff,
but also it's just a flat card.
Like there's nothing.
Yeah.
I can look up what that card says.
You can find an image of it on the internet.
No problem.
Exactly. That's not the important part of it, right?
It's wild because much like our dear friend, Lucy Typebox, I collect physical media.
So every now and then, I will watch an unboxing video.
Oh, the new Nightmare on Home Street box set.
Like, what does that look like?
And I can get a sense of how physically large it is and like what's inside.
This gives the viewer no information whatsoever.
Just reading the back because he doesn't even tell us where you would play these cards in what
circumstance or any of that information.
There's no strategy behind it or anything.
Just like, hey, I order the thing on eBay.
Look at it.
It's just, yeah, it's just him delighting in things that he bought.
All right.
Well, let me get back to episode two because there's big news that's happening and they
are here to report it to us.
Great.
As we know this year, there are going to be four universes beyond sets, which is more
than universes within sets over the course of this 2026 period.
We have Teenage Muti Ninja Turtles.
we have
yeah
don't buy the research
ahead of time
and be ready
with that information
there's gonna be
four universes beyond sets
this year
whoa
did you know that
producer Chris
no
four this year
are coming out
I'm getting sick
of missing out on shit
I'll tell you
right so now we know
now we're in the know
and Chad's very excited
about one specifically
although he's not sure
if he should be excited
about it or not
does it matter
if you have an IP
that does not fit
the high fantasy genre
For me, the answer is, yes, I don't like it.
Also, I fucking love Star Trek, and I'm buying 100 boxes of that.
Nerd!
I guess I don't understand the logic here.
So you were saying that he just gets stoned and buys stuff that he doesn't need.
Yep.
Uh-huh.
So the fact that he's like, I don't even want to play with Star Trek cards.
That seems really dumb.
There's no magic in Star Trek.
But I will buy 100 boxes of them.
Yeah.
It's like we don't have to.
I got a lot of that on the inbox.
one and there's a clip I pulled and never sent you because I was like well this isn't that
interesting and I wish I did now that you just played that one he opens the box and he's like guys
I know what this is teenage meat ninja turtles and they looks he goes nope that's not what this is
and that's the end of that yeah way to put that in this is highly edited by the way this is not like a
oh yeah a vlog or something unless you think otherwise the way he talks about it and
Doug was saying there's no mention of the actual gameplay I don't know if they play these
well we will get to a part where
Maddox talks about some of his cool friends that he plays magic with.
Oh, down at the hobby store.
But I mean, it sounds like Chad's collecting.
Right.
Yeah.
Very much so.
Yeah.
He says that he buys multiple packs of each so that he can play some, but he also collects
the sealed packs.
And this is a thing where people flip cards, they collect cards and they sell them when they
become higher in value.
I hate myself.
All right.
Let's talk about,
is this like a Pokemon?
Do you know anything about Pokemon?
Yeah, it's like a Pokemon kind of thing.
Yeah, it's kind of like that.
So Maddox thought he was above all of this stuff.
Well, I wasn't, I couldn't care less about any of these IPs.
I'm like, Lord of the Rings, whatever, nerds.
And it.
He's had some balls.
I know.
For calling out anyone who likes Magic the Gathering.
Oh, you like the Lord of the Rings deck?
What are you a nerd?
obviously what do you mean
exactly it would be shocking if you weren't
right what's the coolest deck well it's funny you say that
because now we go on to hear what maddox is into
so sure i i saw all the universes beyond stop
couldn't give less of a shit i'm like okay i bought a warhammer deck
because the cards look cool you don't care about it warhammer universe
don't know about the warhammer universe i just know that the monsters look cool
that's what i'm into this is a man is my age who just said i bought it because
the monsters look cool.
That's what I'm into.
Is this how Adam feels when you talk about
sports? That was a whole thing I was
thinking when I was watching this. I'm like, is this
what Adam's going through? Anytime you talk about
hockey or whatever. I was just rolling
his eyes like, oh, okay, yeah, cool
guys.
And then there are things in here where I don't
understand the entertainment value, obviously,
of magic, but these two
are lapping it up. This gets very hilarious.
One of my favorite
cars of all time, and I put this
card in some decks recently and people were dying laughing because it's such a weird shit
card it's called chub toad and i remember chub to chum to oh yeah that stage right i should so yeah
maybe i think yeah i'm not positive with that but i remember chumptoad for sure maddox used to write
books he had a very successful website he was on a podcast that was huge made a lot of money all
these in the comedy realm and i was talking about bringing chubtoed down to the hobby store and
People dying laughing.
Yeah.
He's got the chumdote card in there.
He says it was such pride.
Dude, you guys see what Maddox brought?
Oh, get over here.
Come here.
Holy shit.
Classic Maddix.
Fucking Madd's the chumtoe gets us every time.
The best is the co-host reaction.
Yeah, I remember that.
I'm pretty sure I remember that.
I think I remember that.
Maybe it's a thing that I kind of remember.
No further questions.
That would be good.
What does chumtoe do?
Why would one want a chubtoe?
You know what?
He looks cool.
Damn it.
You're after that question, Doug, would put you to sleep.
I read all about the gameplay and the strategy and how this game works.
And I was like, oh, this is retarded.
This is, it's literally dozens of dragons with cards.
You know, it's hit points and whatever.
It's not hit points since I wasn't going to call me out.
Whatever, it doesn't matter.
It's so stupid.
The extent of my knowledge on this is Cockmagic, the South Park episode.
Right.
Yeah.
And one of the running jokes is they're playing in the basement of the Chinese restaurant,
and it's all very smoky and illegal.
And there's an announcer that's making it sound very excited, you know.
And also, that makes sense for South Park,
because when the one guy said he used to do this in high school,
no offense, any magic players out there, that seems too old for this.
Yeah.
This seems like a middle school at the top.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
you guys ready for the big reveal i know i teased it earlier the top three best-selling sets of magic of all
yeah no definitely yeah let's find out what that is it cannot be argued that universe is beyond has brought
an amount of new players to the game that nothing else ever has the top three selling sets of all time
for magic the gathering are all universes beyond it's final fantasy it's uh or avatar and lord of the rings
Yeah. So, I mean, those are, it's undeniable that like from a business perspective.
He's so excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's undeniable that like from a business perspective, it has been a very good idea, very profitable. Are they now in 2026 going to push it too far? That is a possibility, I think, because people, especially this year, there's seven sets coming out, four of which your universe is beyond, people are going to have to potentially make choices about what they're going to buy.
So I made my choice.
So normal rules there, Chad?
You know, people will have to make decisions
of whether they want to buy it or not.
Yeah, yeah.
Normal rules.
Right, yeah.
Those are your choices.
What's he talking about?
And also, there's an unboxing video that I watched.
At no point, does he kind of dissect it and go,
this is why you should or you should not buy this?
It's just like, look at this thing.
Look at this.
I bought it.
that's it
all right so
um
I was perplexed that he's just like
yeah they're doing themselves a disservice
because people have to decide
which ones to buy and I'm like
I don't know what you mean by that
like Toyota has a bunch of different models
yeah
and it's like well you have to decide what you want to buy
I'm like well yeah right
I'll pick a one day
I'll take them all
yeah fuck it just load up my car
let's go
so let's find out why this is why you even said something
dumb
me
I'm not capable of making choices
I'm buying it all.
Well, there you go.
What's the point?
If you don't have to, yes,
if it were illegal to buy more than one set,
this would make total sense.
I'd be like, all right,
what do you have a decision to make?
If you can buy everything,
what does it matter?
So dumb.
This is crazy.
And all he does is complain about,
you know,
some of the different IP that doesn't match up well.
And he pines for ones that haven't come in yet.
He's got a whole wish list.
Dude, I totally agree.
And I think,
there are some massive IPs that are going to make amazing universes beyond sets.
I don't know when they're going to make these deals, but I'm looking at Zelda.
I'm looking at Conan.
Can you give me a fucking Conan set?
She's gross.
Yeah.
I'm looking at, I know they just said they're not going to do Harry Potter, but like what they really mean is not right now.
Harry Potter will for sure be a universe of beyond set.
And that will probably be the biggest selling set of all time.
So this asshole goes, there's going to be four universes Bionstats.
this year. That's too many.
People have to choose which ones they want to purchase,
but also they should make way more.
These are the ones that I want them to do.
And Conan the Barbarian?
What the what?
Why is he so
definitive and sure that these are coming?
A Conan set
and a Harry Potter, those IPs
seem like they would cost a different amount of money
for this company. One's more attainable.
Later on in the podcast, he brings up Conan the Barbarian
again, and I didn't know this was popular. I don't think it
is, right? People love the artwork of Conan.
Okay, is that what it is? All right. So, yeah, he brings this up again.
Universe Beyond to me is a very weird thing. It was something that, like, I remember as a kid,
playing managers together and kind of fantasizing about, like, oh, wouldn't it be cool? I loved
Conan. And I always was like, wouldn't it be cool if there was a fucking Conan card?
Now that may actually happen at some point. I would love to see a Conan set.
He's just trying to wish it to do existence, I think. Yeah. I remember fantasizing about
Jennifer Connolly. I wish there was a Jennifer Connolly card. I was thinking,
What would I want?
Oh, porn actresses.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, since we're focusing in on Chad and his obsession with Conan the Barbarian,
what else did you pick up on from his unboxing videos, Doug?
You said there's some production value here.
This stuff is edited.
This is how, if you play my number one, this is how it starts.
And he is wildly entertained by the fact that he made this little oopsie when he was really stoned.
The first card I open is.
a flourishing defenses.
I'm 100% sure this is for my more can't deck.
One in the wind column.
I actually know why I bought that and what the card is.
Let's move on to our next envelope, shall we?
Here is, my second one is another flourishing defenses.
So there's two flourishing defenses.
That clearly was a mistake.
Man, you are one pathetic loser.
He has no idea what he's doing.
He is constantly surprised by what he opens,
doesn't remember why he bought most of the things he bought,
doubles up multiple times in here,
laughs like an idiot every time he does it,
and I guess this is entertaining.
Now, he said that he gets stoned and then purchases these things,
and then he's surprised when they come.
I have definitely made Amazon purchases,
and I did not know we're coming,
but not because I was stoned.
You know exactly what you're doing.
doing with you're stoned.
Oh, I was blackout stone.
What are you going to do?
What are you talking about?
It's not a thing.
And I don't know.
I guess sometimes when you buy stuff off of eBay, it takes an insane amount of time to get
there because some idiots putting a card in an envelope in his basement or whatever.
So I get it.
This could take time, but he's so excited about all this.
And that's what's really frustrating about this is he's so thrilled to open this stuff
that means nothing to me.
me as a viewer and also appears to mean very little to him in that a lot of the stuff he gets he's
like I'm never opening this I'm going to put it on my shelf and that's that what were the comments like
did you look at the comments at all on this video I couldn't Carl I feel so bad I pride myself
when I come on I I pulled clips and I watched stuff this this was horrible like I had such a hard
time pulling clips and find anything interesting out of here and and I even watch
watched the first episode, hoping to understand something about Magic the Gathering.
I was, uh, I'm sorry I put you through this.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's not your fault.
I feel bad because I really, I like to, I like to pull clips.
I like to have something to laugh at.
This was really tough.
All right.
We read some of the comments on here.
I just pulled up.
It says, what a wild time seeing you as a magic player instead of arguing with your
parents.
What a wonderful, happy time to find you are awesome and a magic player.
So I guess this person knows Chad from other.
content he's created. They are content creators.
I actually remember that comment
and I meant to look back.
Like, was he
a YouTuber who used to like play pranks
on his parents or something? I don't know.
Maybe I'm making up a more interesting backstory for
this guy than there is, but I actually meant
to look into him. But I was listening to Dick
Masterson, most recent episode, he was
talking about this show. I think they did a bonus show
this week about it. But he looked
up this guy's background and he wrote a book about
how to win on The Bachelor or something
like that, like a very niche topic. I'm
How many people need to read a book about how to win on The Bachelor?
There's something like that.
It's very weird.
Some more comments on here.
Why would you read this?
It would be like me writing it.
An ugly man should not write a book like that.
Well, you really are down on bald people.
You really hate bald people, don't you?
I'm a self-hating bald.
Seriously.
Here's some more comments.
This is an all-too-real problem.
Hit in the Target audience with that one.
Very good.
This is fun.
This says,
would love to see you crack packs, too.
I know you didn't ask for any suggestions, but there is mine.
Thank you.
Would love to know the magic the gathering videos you are watching.
Now I need to send you a package of packages.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ordering cards as we speak.
Chad is the star of the show.
Wow, people are into it, man.
It's hilarious.
That's really funny shit, actually.
And what's great is having watched the entire video,
everyone, those comments make sense.
Like everything they're saying makes sense.
Packages and packages, that's his biggest issue.
Play my number two, because he has a real hard time with packaging.
All right, real quick, now there's a commenter who's Maddox?
We need him.
I knew there'd be some Maddox fans showing up by the guy.
Let's talk about it.
This one seems to have come in an envelope that is wrapped in a plastic sleeve that is also going to be wrapped in another envelope.
It looks like inside of the plastic sleeve.
and there are little taped stickers all over this.
So it becomes very hard to open.
And that's when you have to get out your linoleum knife to cut through these little stickers.
And you hopefully don't cut your card inside.
That's the biggest fear I think all of us have.
Yes.
Fascinating.
So this guy has a two-camera shoot for this fucking thing.
We've got to see the overhead of him actually opening up the envelope.
Good stuff.
and then detailed shots of the cards,
which makes showing you hold the cards
meaningless.
I don't want to tell you how this is meaningless.
Well, I'm glad you had that little Star Trek
bumper on there because these guys are excited
about the Star Trek and Magic the Gathering deck coming out.
You were talking about Star Trek.
They made Edge of Eternities to get us ready for Zardtrak.
Yeah.
So all this shit in Edge of Eternities is going to play.
into whatever mechanics they're going to have coming out, Star Trek, guaranteed.
Edge of attorneys got us pre-coming for Star Trek.
For real.
Pre-coming?
Nice.
Does he know about sex works?
Look at me on pre-coming over here, huh?
That's how excited I have without my pre-com.
Gross.
He's got us talking about magic.
I'm not sure that they actually do.
It's got us pre-coming, and then Chad goes, for real.
He's going to go change my underwear.
I'll be right back.
And then Maddox talks about the Spider-Man,
which I guess was a flop.
Spider-Man and Magic was not a good matchup, apparently.
But there was something about it that Max was pretty blown away by.
That's the fun of universes beyond,
is that you can kind of predict what the gameplay mechanics are going to be based on the IP that it comes from.
I didn't anticipate web-slinging from Spider-Man, though.
That was a really cool for those who haven't played it or if you're just getting back into magic.
Web-slinging was a really cool mechanic where you could pay some mana
and basically bounce a creature back to your hand and bring down another creature in his place.
It's very, it feels very thematic with like the spider web slinging thing.
I thought that was really cool.
Sounds really cool.
Wait a second.
I did not expect web slinging from Spider-Man.
I didn't expect flying from Superman.
What is he talking about?
I didn't understand that at all, but he's very excited about the different mechanics with these different decks that come out.
And I like when he says that things are cool.
He's like, that's pretty cool.
No.
none of this. None of what you just said is cool.
But Madison is one of these guys
who doesn't know
whether he's a dork and he wants to embrace
the nerd culture or if he's above it all
because the way he became famous was by
calling everyone losers and
dorks and would write about how your kids
art sucks and the iPhone's
a piece of shit and he knows everything about technology
and now he's saying
things like this. I would like
as a wish list item for me to just
cool it on the steampunk.
Not just magic, but to
people in general.
Like, it's taking over rent fair.
I mean, it's just,
it's too weird. It's never cool.
This is something that producer Chris and I
talk about off air quite a bit.
Steampunk? Steampunk at run fairs.
Specifically, there's no trains during the Renaissance.
What are we doing with the steampunk stuff
at the Red Fair? Don't get me started.
I know. We'll never get back
on topic if we get started on that again.
What a fucking loser.
The way of reacting, it's like, this is the hottest
take. Like, you calm down.
Maddox.
Yeah, Chad's like, whoa, whoa, it's getting a little too spicy for this show.
Exactly, yeah, you want to turn away these hundreds of viewers we have?
Comments are going to blow up over this.
Well, this is some controversial shit that's going down.
Maddox also fascinates me because as much as he talks about how cool he is and how he knows everything
and no one else knows anything, he gets very excited about the lameish shit.
Like, apparently there were these trading cards for attack from Mars back in the 60s.
Just, you know, let's just talk about trading cards in general.
the old attack on Mars
those cards
are fucking insane
they're so much fun
first of all they're insanely
gory they're like
I may have some of these
you're jogging some weird memory in my mind
look them up there
your jaw will drop it how fucking
gory these cards are it's insane
you guys are looking at examples of these cards
does anyone jaw dropping right now
how gory it is
no
I used to have sets of Bill and Ted's excellent adventure cards.
I don't know.
These guys would think they're super cool or what?
This is, okay, this is what's going on here from a psychological standpoint.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm qualified to talk about this.
I think you are.
I think I am.
Maddox is a depressed adult who pines for his childhood when things were simpler and he was cool.
And kids would play magic with him and he had friends.
And he had his whole career in front of.
of him and he would rise to stardom and be a big deal on the internet and now everything just
came crashing down and he's mostly mocked everywhere he goes and he's like i wish i was 16 again
had those cool mars attacks cards that were really gory that was cool yeah why else would you bring
this up right but he wants there to be cool magic cards like these cool mars cards he used to
play with.
This is wild.
You can't just go away.
Maddick,
you could just go away.
I thought he did.
I thought for sure.
Get a normal job.
But they had that date night with Chad,
and they both bonded over magic.
And of course,
the next thing you always do is your boyfriend
and start a YouTube channel.
Wow.
Now, if we break up,
who gets the YouTube channel?
Hopefully they've had that discussion.
That was a big deal with him and Dick.
So I talked about this guy opening stuff,
and he's still in when he buys him,
and he's just,
delighted in everything.
Play my number four,
because this is another thing
that he does multiple times on this episode.
Let me just look here.
I'm pretty sure
I have no idea what this is.
It's clearly some,
a deck that I saw on some YouTube video or something,
some commander deck,
and I was like, oh, that'd be pretty fun.
Let me try this out.
I have no idea what it is.
Even looking at it, I'm like,
what in the hell is this deck?
But that's the fun.
I disagree.
I disagree.
Why would you do this?
Why would you do this?
I should research that before you open it up.
I don't know what this is.
Yeah.
Also, I understand just from looking at the small amount of cards that I have in this video,
there's a lot in here.
There's a lot to process.
There's a lot to take in.
This stuff seems way more complicated than it should.
But if you bought something and you're doing a video and there's a chance that this comes up,
shouldn't you know something about it?
I could imagine just buying something
like I don't know what the fuck this is.
That'd be like if I was unboxing magic cards,
that's how I would do.
I have no idea.
Who would buy this?
I have no idea.
Another magic card.
Far more fascinating video.
And the comments would probably be amazing.
But he didn't have to leave that in.
He could have also.
I did that out, I would imagine.
Cut that out.
What else you got on here, Doug?
I'm just going to end with my supercut number six.
And it's really, you saw a little bit of it in this.
I assume if I'm watching these videos, the people talking to me are experts in this field.
I have no idea what it is.
I don't know.
No idea.
Literally no idea.
I have no idea what this is.
Still literally no idea what this is.
But I don't know.
I'm putting that in the I don't know pile.
I don't remember why I bought this.
I'm putting it in the I don't remember pile.
I don't know.
I don't know why I have two of those.
I don't know what this is.
I don't know what this is.
This is the man who sniffs his own farts.
This is anything he says is going to be riveting for people.
I don't know what that is.
Yes, you do.
He's the same.
Jesus.
That's the entirety of the episode I watched.
And it was enough.
I watched a little bit of the first episode just hoping to get some information about magic.
They were off and running.
And they were in so deep.
I was like, I am already left behind.
And I'm not going to Wikipedia.
I'm not going to ask Chad GPD anything about this.
I'm going to pull clips that I find entertaining.
And that's that.
All right.
Well, I mentioned this earlier.
So Maddox isn't just a collector.
He's playing these games.
And he starts bragging about all these cool people that he's hanging out with all his cool friends.
One of my favorite players I play with one of the local game shops I go to is she got back into it because.
of Jurassic Park.
They did a Jurassic Park.
I have some of them.
Yeah. And she's like, I'm just
a big fan of Jurassic Park. I'm like, oh, that's cool.
And then another one like Doctor Who,
Doctor Who got them back into the game. I'm like,
great, welcome. I would have never played with this player.
Had that weird universe's
Beyonce had not brought them in. So why not?
He's got standards.
Stop bragging about all your friends, Mattis.
You know, some of us are lonely in this world.
I got one, and then
there's another one. And I'm sitting here with you.
Yeah, look at me.
Imagine being that big of a loser that you didn't care about Magic of the Gathering.
And then there was a Jurassic Park deck.
And you're like, well, now I'm in.
He takes the noose off.
I like Dinothor.
Are you Maddox?
Dork.
Well, apparently, whatever was waiting for is the Game of Thrones magic the Gathering deck.
That's going to be the B.L. End all.
I think there's going to be a Game of.
Thrones at some point.
That will fucking end it.
Yeah.
That'll wreck everything.
Gamut throw.
nuts.
Yeah.
It's going to be nuts.
Dude, that's going to be fucking nuts.
I'm going to smash all the puss.
They look so excited to be talking about this.
That's the rare I have from the Game of Thrones deck.
It's nuts.
And that's the thing they do not even seem excited to be talking about this stuff.
Why would they be?
I don't know.
So this is something that I think we can all relate to.
Imagine if you buy a fucking booster of Lorwin,
Eclipse and you're rare as fucking spectacular Spider-Man.
What?
Yeah, I'm out.
I see what you're saying.
I think people will be super, super livid at that.
Oh, my God.
I'd beat the shit on my wife.
If the rare was amazing Spider-Man in my booster that I bought,
fuck.
You better not burn that meatlo.
It's going to be a real problem.
All right.
I have one more clip on here.
Here's how the episode ends.
And they just, they giggle a lot.
Two gunshots?
No, there's another episode after this one.
For some reason.
All right, okay.
So, yeah, this is
just things that make them
giggle. They think that they've ended this one on a high note.
Yeah. If it's, if you're like a
hardcore collector, get your card,
pack it up under your tarp.
You never bring it to your local game shops
You're being bare
Like keep your shame hidden outside
I got to give it this harp
Oh God
Anyway
Good stuff guys
Yeah
Good stuff
Doug you didn't seem to be as abused by that as they were
I mean I assume that was taken wildly out of context
And everything before that led up to that amazing joke
No
Oh not not the case
Not the case at all
Well I'm so
sorry that you had to suffer through that and I'm glad you didn't learn anything from it.
I'm proud of you actually.
If you would have come in and been like, actually, Carl, I'm now an amateur magic player.
I've been playing with some eight-year-olds online.
He's got a wizard's robot.
I mean, when you text to me, it was like, Doug, this is the show we're doing.
Do you know anything about magic?
And I was just like, I have no idea, Carl.
I refuse to do the research.
If you would have responded that, yeah, I play magic, I would have blocked you immediately.
That was the right answer.
There was no way.
Listening to the end of last episode
when Chris said that he would never talk to you again
if you knew anything about this,
I'm not admitting a thing.
Smart.
I'm secretly a magic expert.
I'm the guest on their next episode.
Could you imagine?
Oh, this is how we find out.
Son of a bitch.
We're like, guys, there's a small wonder collection
coming up and I can't wait.
General G.K. has already made a magic card.
I'm looking at it.
It's in the Discord.
You do are pretty tough.
He says put a poop token onto the battlefield.
Sacrifice a poop token.
Carol Hambiger gets plus two plus two until end of turn.
Just do it.
All right.
Well, I'm a three two car.
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Wow, that wasn't cringing enough.
It's time for our...
Grinch of the week.
Cringe of the week.
This one comes in from Justin Heilman.
And Justin says, this is a relaunch of a local Sacramento radio show I used to listen to all the time before they shut down last year.
The host of the show, Rob, was in the business for 30.
plus years and now apparently can't figure out how to run a show anymore.
And I don't know, whoever posted this put in the title of the video, Cringe of the Week.
So I'm assuming it was a WATP fan who put this up for us because we're in the comments as well.
Welcome to the radnetwork.com.
Rob. Today is or will be a great day.
You don't know that.
And then I get aside at Chipotle sauce because there's no goddamn mama sauce anymore.
America's Radcast.
All right, you're on, Rob.
Okay.
Welcome.
Some things haven't changed.
We still get emails.
Although the email address is new.
It's Radcast at the radnetwork.com.
We're going to explain all of this.
Nicole wrote in and said,
I'm so glad you're back.
I've been listening to you
since high school, the year 2000.
Got to meet you for the first time
at Brianapalusa, 2024.
You signed my very old volume
2 and 3 cookbooks.
And Kyle worked with my husband,
Stephen at Rayleigh's years ago.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, I know Steve.
He came in for lunch yesterday
and I met up with him
and I got to hang out with him for a little bit.
Came in for lunch yesterday.
Wait, you're telling me
this isn't your full-time profession
working on?
On this show, is that?
Great people, man.
It came in for lunch.
It's because you're also, you're back to bartending as well as putting this monster together.
Yes, yes.
I'm burning.
Does Chad Zumach know this guy's bartending?
He went out of him.
The candle at both ends.
Yes, they are wonderful people.
I miss Steven so much.
Dude, that guy is awesome.
Good tipper?
Yeah, well, his wife is.
He, he, so he gives me, they give me, I give him the bill yesterday.
And I give it to him.
And she's like, no, I'm going to take that because I'm embarrassed by the fact that he doesn't
tip well.
Nicole says
both of us
are so excited to
see you to get back at it.
Love you,
Rob,
Kyle.
Love you too,
but Rob,
you have my heart.
All right,
very nice.
So here's the thing.
You can email us
radcast at the radnetwork.com
and pretty much right now that's...
That network sounds pretty rad.
These guys are cool.
How are radio guys so bad at this?
They can not transition to the internet.
They have no idea what they're doing.
It was like so amateur and bad.
I look amateur, and this looks so much worse.
This image looks powerful.
Yeah.
He's got the monitor feeding back.
Yeah, the sound is terrible.
There's so many technical problems to begin with.
And then is that a gold record for Creed on the wall behind him?
Maybe platinum.
Oh, my, you're right.
Cool, man.
Did you take that from the radio station?
Yeah, I think you saw that matchbook 20 gold record too, yeah.
The only way you can get a hold of us.
We are, in fact, here's your first visual, if you're watching us on YouTube.
We are running us, we are running on duct tape.
Welcome to the.
11 o'clock last night.
Finchon touches on this.
And trying to get everything to work.
Technically, I think there was a time around 9 p.m.
where we were contemplating.
Suicide.
Well, hell.
Are we going to do a show?
Can we do a show?
And then the other side of that is, what a is?
what a disaster if we don't do anything.
I don't think not doing anything probably would have been a good.
Some could argue for that.
I love the idea of time around 9 p.m.
I was ready for like a time like last spring.
Not like earlier this evening.
Very funny.
Someone needs to submit this to WATP is the top comment.
America's Radcast is a very professional return.
Hashtag cringe of the week.
Wow.
So thank you for that, Justin.
It's great.
It's always fun to see.
radio guys trying to pull it off
that's why I get so much credit to Drew
it's not as easy
a lot of these guys just can't figure out the transition
to the internet
Hearns 55 member for six months
Sunflower Dragon called in on Be Dabler Live
I wasn't and actually said
should we have gone out for a drink
with him if he wasn't so volatile
she said she would have gone out
with a drink for a drink with John yes
I heard this whole conversation was fascinating
because Sunflower Dragon like was the top
donated for John in January.
Oh.
And she's like, you know, I kind of feel bad for the guy.
And I was a huge Howard Stern fan.
And I'm just trying to help the guy.
And he told me to never super chat him again.
So I won't.
So that's that.
And they're like, you know, he's always hitting on it.
Would you have gone out for a drink with him?
She's like, yeah.
Of course.
I love going out for drinks.
And it turns out she's an attorney and a law firm.
It would have been a good, nice asset for John to befriend her rather than push her away like
he does everyone else.
But does he say to himself, I've got to change.
I did it again.
How about this?
Chris,
how about this?
I'll monitor John for the next few years and let you know if that happens.
I'll be there.
Hearn says I meant some far I was talking about Senator John.
Yes.
I did see that.
Dippled balls.
Remember for 25 months.
Great to see you on the show again.
Doug.
Carl and Chris always thrilled with your presence.
Nice.
Thank you.
Dippled balls.
It's always good to have.
And John's had assets before.
He had that way back when.
Heather W. was like giving him money for stuff.
Thousands of dollars.
He pushes everyone away.
It's so wild.
She took a photo of herself holding onto a gun and he said,
she threatened to kill me.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot about that.
Okay.
So maybe because I grew up where,
Kodak was started.
I understand how pictures work a little better than other people.
Yeah.
Photographs work.
Yeah.
I mean, everyone's an expert.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
My dad worked there.
So I know a lot of what's going on.
All right, speaking of knowing a lot about what's going on, I know a lot about this idiot.
You're talking about the AI slop that was in the Soul Ringers.
Opie does this thing.
He just posted this video.
Now, this is an older conversation he had.
We covered it on WATP.
But he just posted this video that now includes a bunch of AI images for some reason.
Is it about the weather?
The reason there's no longer open Anthony is because Opie chose the, you know, the high road.
You know, you know,
uh,
so this is called Opied at the Reunion
will make millions.
And,
uh,
the first section is the high road versus the millions.
And,
uh,
there's an image of a guy,
I guess it's supposed to be Opie.
Who has a flag.
Clearly.
Morality.
Yeah.
I was going to say,
how are you confused by this?
His eyes are open.
He's holding,
and it says morality.
His mouth isn't purple.
And he's putting down money in a sack.
And,
The sack says racism slide.
But the sack's not the slide.
No.
The slide is the road.
Wait, I'm confused by what I'm seeing.
And then the other option he has is him diving off the slide.
This says maybe I let it slide and then diving into money, but he seems concerned about hitting that money head on.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Well, it's mostly coins.
It could kill you.
Yeah, I mean, maybe the prompts were a little bit off on this one.
I could be, you don't take the first one they spit out, you know?
So the slide is the bag, or the slide is the golden road, or the slide is the other road.
Maybe there's context that needs to be filled in.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
I know this is all very confusing.
I apologize for that.
Morality, you know, he chose light over dark.
Like, you understand?
Like, do people realize that the reason Opie is not going back with Anthony because they can make millions is because Opie's
taking the high road.
So now
they're showing a father.
Who looks angry, by the way.
He's talking to his two young children
who are making fun of them,
clearly.
He's stupid asshole.
And the dad has a book that says
moral lessons for children
and behind him outside
in the backyard, there is
a giant truck dumping
what's called the millions
that includes coins, cash, and jewels.
There is a jewel.
I'd prefer to be paid a jewels, please.
Candy.
How many rubies are in my paycheck for this?
Okay.
The children pointing at the father laughing is the best part of us.
Yeah, these prompts are all off on this thing.
It can't be what they're hoping for.
Also, those kids are so young.
I think that's the last time Opie saw them alive would be around that age.
He's like, I never should have read that book to them if I knew it was going to be the last time.
At that age, they couldn't draw their own bans for themselves.
Yeah.
In the high road, and he wants to send an example for his wife and children.
What do you think about that?
That's why they're not together, because...
Okay, so now we have a new AI image.
And now the guy who I guess is Opie is turning back to the camera and smiling as he's walking up the high road.
To happen.
That's paper's golden going to happen.
I guess he died.
And then the millions path below him, full of pothole.
You would think with all that money
You'd find
Well, the potholes filled with money, though
That's true.
That's not the worst pothel.
And jewels.
Always jewels.
You can pay to fix those.
And you would set it.
No, no, no,
We'll just put the money in the potholes.
We'll say a lot of tires that way.
The concrete's less, but okay.
For your children, if you're doing a show,
who's an omitted racist.
But seriously.
Did you, did you say millions, though?
one of Opie's best acting
acting jobs ever.
Wait, millions, right?
You don't, I mean, it would be,
it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be,
he rocked in the chat, says,
setting an example, I think they'd prefer the millions.
Yeah, no shit.
Hey, people seem to like Anthony.
I don't know if you agree with everything he says.
It's fine.
Just go do a show with them.
It's going to make us a lot of money.
It's good.
It wouldn't be peanuts.
It wouldn't be Ronica money.
Maybe I can let the racism slide.
Oh, they're showing this one again.
Back to the original slide.
Oh, hold on a second.
Oh, okay, this is going to make sense now.
Listen to what Ron Berman is saying.
Maybe I can let the racism slide.
So they just use the audio from the clip.
As prompts.
As prompts.
Maybe I got the racism slide.
They're just like, oh, it's a racism slide.
That makes sense because they're very lazy.
I didn't pick up on that when I pulled this.
This is a stupid.
It's the racism slide.
Can we go?
It's crazy.
Also, Opie looks like someone put a flannel on a mummy.
What if he looks ridiculous.
It's terrible.
He looks like a corpse.
No, but honestly, I don't think people realize, like,
if Opie really did want to make serious money,
he could go back with Anthony, and he's doing it,
and he literally said to me, Ron, I have children,
and I need to set an example.
Opie said that to you?
That's embarrassing.
He doesn't have children.
He might.
He did.
Anyway, not the point.
The point is, is that Opie's afraid to face Anthony and be asked hard questions about what he was like to work with.
And so he pretends that he's on his moral high ground.
Right.
Because that's a lot more convenient for him.
Yeah.
I won't work with a racist.
Why'd you work with him for 20 years?
I didn't want to.
for millions of dollars is the answer to that
because this is not something
we'll be learned about after the fact.
It's like when Suttering John talks about
like how could anyone ever do a show with Pocky?
He's such a racist.
Like John,
you were hoping to get the second chair.
You run a show 10 times.
Yeah, but he also had that domestic violence issue.
Yeah, remember you went on and said
that if you became the senator of California,
you could all go away.
It could all go away.
Yeah.
What is this after the fact?
Yeah.
All right. So Friday yesterday, Opie's doing the stream with Ron. And I'm happy to report. It is an FU Friday. And Opie is prepared. I think Opie's in good form on this one. He is ready to go. He's raring to go. He's got a lot of energy. He's got a lot of notes.
Bap, ba, ba,
ba, ba, pa, ba, pa,
there's real energy today.
This is the Opie Radio podcast.
It's FU Friday. And you know what, Ron,
I'm going up, I'm going in, I'm going
all in, F you to gas prices.
This isn't our war,
you bitch.
Are you kidding?
NFU to Netanyahu.
Are you, are you alive?
Or are you AI?
I don't know, Rod.
What the hell's going on in this stupid world?
Opie, we got an hour.
to fill a man
calm down.
Holy shit.
That's more kind
that usually has
an entire stream
right out of the gate.
A few to gas prices.
That's a pretty good take.
I got to say I like Ron's environment.
I think the plant
really dresses up the place.
He seems to be in the plant,
though.
It's in front of a head behind him.
That's how small his apartment is.
He got a house plant
and now he lives in the house plant.
Plant or chair,
not both.
Yep, you got to pick one.
All right, so Ron has an amazing follow-up to what Opie just did there because Opie's pissed about gas prices.
They're going way up across the country.
And so Ron has a brilliant question for him.
Do you have an electric car or do you have a gas powered car?
Don't you think, Ron, you'd be really stupid for Opie to be pissed about gas prices if you had an electric car.
What a dumb question.
These fucking gas prices are ridiculous.
You need to buy gas?
No, I have a hover car.
also can you even out these levels like i don't think you can ask ron to stay further back from the
mic but come on yeah just push the computer then i mean you have to lean in that fire but push the
computer back or something so this is opi's response to do you have an electric car i would go evy you
know what that's a very good question because the whole world is burning oh let's just burn all
our oil fields. That shouldn't
cause a problem
around the world.
So you do have a gas powered car?
That's a great question. I'm going to yell.
What the fuck got a question?
What kind of response is that?
So Opie is being more performative than
I've seen in a very, very
long time. He is pulling
out all the stops for Rodman. There's actual
coffee instead of wine in his mug.
Maybe that's what it is. Stop the sauce.
Caffeine.
put a bunch of sugar in there.
Watch this clip.
He tries everything.
He tries all the things that he does
to entertain the masses.
We got World War III just creeping,
just creeping,
creeping up.
And no what's happening, Ron?
Then this goes back to your electric vehicle question.
The sun, here comes the sun.
I'll say,
the sun is looking down at Earth going,
you stupid people.
You stupid.
human beings.
I'm your solution.
I've been in the sky for a billion
years and you can't
figure it out.
So depend on your oil and gas
and depend on the straight of Hamoos,
which is what, a half a mile wide?
Hey, OPE.
Why do you talk that way?
What is he doing?
He doesn't talk like this to any other co-host.
When he's talking to anyone else, he talks like a normal
person with Ron.
All of the sudden, he gets super animated and is singing songs and doing voices.
He's trying to match his energy.
I appreciate him for this.
Like, I wish he did this every time, the whole time.
Yeah, I mean, it is fun.
It's embarrassing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, no.
He's in his 60s.
He's a radio veteran of these singing songs and doing all these voices.
It's this big performance he's doing.
But then the show gets bogged down because you heard Opie,
and by way, Opie's been reading up on a lot of facts.
And he's very proud of himself.
He's got a lot of info.
He's going to give us.
But unfortunately,
Ronnie is also reading up on facts.
And these are some fact-checking sons of bitches right here.
It's 20 miles wide.
No, Ron, it's 21 miles wide.
Look at you.
You were trying to correct my little cute little joke.
You didn't even have the right.
It's 21 miles wide.
It doesn't even matter that it's 21 miles wide.
The shipping lane is only two miles wide.
They cannot.
Doesn't matter.
What do you think they,
what do you think that the ships go along the coast to avoid the fucking mind?
Why do you think I said a mile?
Because I knew that.
Basically,
our moves,
we're only using a mile to two miles of it to transport gas around the world.
Jesus Christ.
This is why I listen to Opie,
political commentary.
Yes.
I like when Opie reads one article.
And Lord's it over you.
Yes.
Lord is over you.
It's 21 miles, not 20, you idiot.
Whatever, man.
They're so bogged down in the details of this thing.
And then Opie's ready with some Netanyahu hot takes.
Guys, it's going to get spicy.
I might get kicked off of YouTube.
I know that Aaron Imhol was shadow ban for some of the things he had to say about Israel.
So I'm a little concerned about what might happen here.
Well, we had a good run, guys.
We did.
I've been getting careless with my, uh,
YouTube pages.
We'll hear $2 Dan say in the next segment.
But, yeah, this is Opie's hot take.
He's dragging us into a war that most Americans don't fucking want.
We don't want it.
I get the Trump bombing this and that to calm Iran down.
I get that part of this.
But we don't want this.
Yahoo!
Good stuff.
Great response, Ron.
I'm barely a chuckle.
He's doing his hair.
In Ron's defense, it looks like Opie was
he was geared up for another long
diatri. Yeah. He's giving him some room.
Yeah. Oh, you're done.
Oh, you're drinking.
Oh, you're drinking. Your wine.
Yeah, he needs to refuel for the next segment.
Dude, I've never seen Opie so ready for an FU Friday
as he was yesterday.
So I know we have a tradition of FU Friday, right?
Oh, it's happening.
I got a whole list, Ronnie, babes.
I got a whole list.
I started with F-U-to-Gas prices because we're now creeping closer to $4 a gallon as the national average.
A barrel of gas is now over $100.
They used to say when a barrel of gas gets over $100, that's crazy.
Well, guess what?
Today we wake up, it's $119 a barrel.
This guy just gets Google for the first time?
Yeah.
Jesus, crazy, Google like a motherfucker for this episode.
Too many facts.
I can't keep up with it.
all of them. It's never a barrel
of gas. You can't keep up. Ron can't keep
up. He's running
around Ron
and that's shocking.
And he needs Ron because Ron
I don't know if you know this is Jewish.
And if you want to
criticize the leadership of Israel,
you better fucking be Jewish.
And so Opie knows that.
All right. It's doubled.
It's doubled in price.
We understand all that. I can't say, you could say
you're Jewish or you should be wearing your Jewish
star if you were brave enough.
So you say it. F you to Netanyahu.
Well, it sounds like you took care of that for us.
Oh, God.
It's gone round of pussy.
Repeat after me.
Fuck the Jews.
Say it, Zed, Zed.
Magic the gathering sucks.
I think that like saying you have to say it because you're Jewish is a little bit more
anti-Semitic than just saying F you to Netanyahu, right?
I mean, I don't care either way.
I'm not judging.
It's just funny how Opie is couching this
and trying to make it seem like he can't criticize Israel,
but he's got Ron on there as a shield.
And so Ron makes a joke that Opie's sounding very anti-Semitic.
You look like an extra in a fucking World War,
Black and White World War II movie going, going there you didn't.
How much?
Yeah, you didn't.
Hey, Ron, cute, funny.
You're a good comedian.
Ron Berman comedy.
So I respect that.
But make up your mind two days ago, you said I look like an Irishman.
All right.
Literal Opie.
Which is it?
Which European white person am I then?
You're an Irishman who supports the Nazis.
Right.
Yes.
I think it's preamble.
I know you're into comedy.
Right.
I respect that.
I know.
I'm not saying I didn't understand that was a joke.
I do.
But I'm going to catch.
you.
We all know how hilarious you are.
Yes.
He's such a dick.
Now, if you guys noticed,
there's two things going on on the screen during the show.
There's the scroll that has the chat that's over Ron Berman.
So you can actually see the chat in real time as it's happening.
And the chat's coming in from multiple locations.
He's on both Facebook and five different YouTube streams.
So all of these things are feeding into this chat.
At the same time,
Opie's putting up specific chats up on the screen in front of them.
You saw that, right?
Yeah.
I'm not losing my mind.
No.
Because Opie then says this.
I'm only putting super chats on the big screen today.
Screw you guys.
We need money.
You've been showing the chat the whole time.
It's still up there now, actually.
So, holy shit, I just noticed this now.
Cranberry Electric says, Emily World Order.
That's about Opie's chat in this clip.
I just paused.
What the fuck?
Fuck, Emily, World Order.
But does that mean he can't see Ron?
That's what I was wondering.
He can see Ron.
Well, wouldn't he see the entire chat then?
Under Ron.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, everyone can see the chat.
Every single person can see the chat,
even though he's only putting up the superchats because they need the money.
He does need to open his eyes.
Oh, there it is.
Okay, so Opie, I criticize quite a bit for not having hard stances when it comes to politics, you know?
And all the other stuff.
Everything else.
He never has an opinion about anything.
He's not passionate about anything.
It doesn't know what's going on.
He says something here that like, whoa, watch out.
And this is a, I'm not a different.
I'm a moderate.
So shut up.
Let me beat you to the punch.
So I'm going to say it.
F. J.D. Vance,
it is F you Friday.
You know,
the Republicans should focus on
Marco Rubio as your next candidate
for the presidency.
F. Jady Vance.
Wow.
Opie just throughout two specific names
and have opinions about both of them.
Pronouncing them right.
This is a new Opie.
Pronounce the place.
Should Opie go on with Richard O'Jetta and Brian Karram?
Maybe they should start a political show
because holy shit.
Opie's really into politics all of a sudden.
Well done, sir.
Proud of you.
Why is he so fired up?
That's a great question.
Gas prices?
Does he drive anywhere?
Does he leave that apartment?
Only to drive to his other house in the Hamptons.
How often is there?
I heard the air conditioning is broke.
Well, I guess he could go now.
Yeah, he could go now.
It'd be fine.
Open a window.
Before the summer.
This is.
So, Rod's got all these conspiracy theories about Trump and Netanyahu and them being
best of buddies and planning this for years in advance.
And so Opie jumps in with a joke that cracks himself up.
He thought this was so funny.
Can I tell you what's going on?
And I've been fucking serious for a second.
Oh my gosh.
I just noticed he's got another free chat on the screen around.
Opie.
It was your rule, man.
I didn't make it for you.
Can I tell you what's going on?
And I've been fucking serious for a second?
Yeah, please.
Please, Ron.
Benjamin and Natchezahu and Donald Trump have been very, very, very close friends.
Can I say something?
We used to call that butt buddies.
You think they're butt buddies?
Who knows?
But you think they're butt buddies?
I was going to say, I laughed at that my laughter was just at how funny he thought it.
Yeah, right?
He's ready for Rod to react, and Rod doesn't just like, ha ha ha ha, butt buddies.
What?
What do you talk that way?
Right up there with meat whistle.
All right.
So I'm pretty sure Opie was handed a recent issue of popular science.
Is that still a magazine?
Sure.
This sounds like something someone would say who just read an article in popular science.
I'm done with gas.
I'm done with oil.
Done with gas.
Yeah, yeah.
It's obvious that the solar, solar, the sun is the future.
So maybe, maybe this makes us finally push forward into the future.
Dude, you know what the future is?
energy finally.
It does work very well on my calculator.
He's got a good point there.
I like that we had a bomb Iran in order for us to be like,
should we take advantage of the sun as an energy source?
That's what I was thinking.
I'm like, O'Bee, aren't you like 40, 50 years late to this argument?
Very, very much so.
And what about wind?
You guys never know how to winty out sometimes?
We know.
We got it.
O-B, he's great, isn't he?
So then Ron gets into alien talk.
And clearly from this topic, where else would you go?
Right, because Ron's heard some things.
He knows what's going on.
Like, that's how, like, aliens look at us, like, you know, aliens look at us and there's a few things.
This is what I've been told.
Yeah.
They think it's ridiculous how we procreate.
They think it's ridiculous that we have to eat solid food.
and they think it's ridiculous that we use fossil fuse for energy.
And they call and they call our aircraft flying vehicles.
All right.
Listen to me.
So now my next nephew goes out to aliens.
They're stupid.
All right.
I'm going to give credit to Opie.
He was actually listening to his co-host.
He kept the conversation going.
It was ridiculous.
Yep.
But at least Opie was paying attention.
I think that was an attempt at a joke.
I think so, too.
After you to the aliens.
Our Opie's growing.
Whatever he's doing, coffee, vodka, a little bit of Coke, just keep going.
Like, this is really working out for him.
This is peak opium.
It was like they started a little later because it's actually light outside.
Okay, maybe that's it.
So maybe he got a little bit more sleep or something like that.
His kids are already in the cold.
No, he did not sleep.
Yeah, he's got that manic all-nighter.
So these two are having a conversation.
They're on the same page as far as the fact that Gasp is up.
and oil costs more money than it used to.
So they know a lot of cool things about, you know,
passageways for world trade.
It's great.
What could fuck this up?
Tony P.
Oh.
Tony P. joins the show.
And Tony P. has a setup that he needs in order to follow on with that.
Fun's over.
Bye.
Good morning.
I was trying to log on to my Facebook and getting to that chat room.
What?
You were on for five minutes, Tony.
I like to watch whatever people are talking about while we're on, and I can't do it because I'm on my phone.
Tony likes to watch.
I mean, the chat's usually a lot of cool people, and then a handful of haters that set their alarms and just hate the whole time of the chat.
I was watching yesterday, man.
All right.
So Tony's so stupid.
He doesn't realize the chat is literally on the screen the whole time.
And it's the chat from all the different sources, which mostly it's YouTube.
He's logging into Facebook in order to watch the Facebook chat while he's on the show.
That's the least of Tony's problems.
I just want to say.
Oh, I agree with you on that.
But then this again brings up the question, can they see the chat?
Like, I don't know what they're looking at on their end.
Maybe they can't see it or they don't know that it's up.
I'm not sure.
No, no, no.
Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
Sorry.
Look at it.
I just turned it out on ours.
So now you can see my chat over Chris.
Okay, that's all he's doing.
It's just doing that, which is something I'll never do again.
What the?
Sorry about that.
Chris.
Actually, if I put us in this mode right here and I turn that on, this is kind of like what they're looking at.
So you can see the chat.
I don't know why they want to see the chat because Opie even said just there that he goes,
well, I mean, if you want to read the chat, you can.
But, you know, there's these haters or stuff there on the arm and just make fun of me.
He's like, you're the one promoting the chat nonstop.
Up on the screen, you pull up free chats.
We have losers in our chat, like Tony from Hack the Movies.
Jesus.
I'm a better Tony P than this guy.
Eh, juries out.
Jury's out on that one.
Tony from Hack the Movies.
Never even knew what his last name was.
It's P.
Apparently.
Oh, okay.
Great.
Tony's ready with an F-U.
Let's get into it, buddy.
I went to go get my gas.
I went to go get my coffee.
Yeah.
And I held the door open for a lady.
yeah fuck that bitch she cuts in front of me if you hold the door open for somebody you don't cut in front of the person who hold the fucking door open for you and you let that person go first piece of shit that's why f you that's my fucking f you piece of shit
so I'm sure what Opie's going to say is like
all right FU Fridays out about like some
inconsequential thing that happened to at the gas station
I think that's not what that's not what this is about
you know it's topical
it's gonna just like real issues that people might have
I'm checking straight after this show
oh boy yeah I could only imagine
I'm sure Opie's gonna set him straight right here
and that's what FU Friday's all about
the stuff that is that really fucking knocks us down
a woman going to the register before you
that knocks you down.
Whether it's about the world burning up
or a woman cutting in front of you in line.
Who gives a shit?
Tony P is such a nothing.
He's like, oh, sweet, this thing happened.
I mean, now I guess I'm going to be fired up about
on Opie's show today.
Tony P looks like he used to be a bass player
for a ska band in the 90s.
Yeah, or he could play Joe Matarice
in the Joe Metterie story.
That's right.
All right.
Opie's got a new one.
This is amazing.
Every now and again,
Opie comes up with something
that no one's ever thought of.
And you're like,
what a brilliant observation that is.
How has no one else
ever come up with this before?
I got a new one.
I do have a new one.
Like the CVS receipt.
Why is it four feet long?
I bought toothpaste,
you lunatics.
Who came up with this thing?
You guys both did the same thing I did when I was cutting this
Covered my I didn't say I was like oh no no no you guys both did that you're like the CBS
Receed it's 2026 this asshole's logging into Facebook
Opie talking about the CBS receipt what year is that taking credit for it like no one's ever
spoken I got a new one he said yeah I got a new one guys you should be embarrassed
This is how detached opia is from the world right he doesn't know this is like a
hack bit at this point
Wow.
So I'm waiting for these two comedians to come in with some kind of like, yeah, I have to download it on my Kindle or I'm going to get the audible version of it.
You know, some kind of hack joke about CVS receipts.
And Ron actually comes in with a decent retort that Opie does not pick up on at all.
Dude, I never have a CVS receipt.
I go to the self-checkout and I just pretend and I just walk out.
When you go out, you go no receipt, you trust these fuckers.
Now, don't go no receipt.
ever because one time
one time. No, I'm not paying for it.
One time some idiot because they didn't know
to self-checkout. They walked away
in the middle of doing their items
and I went and next thing
you know, I paid for all their shit.
Ron looks so depressed. He's like,
that baby was wasted on you.
I tried.
He was listening to his
co-host. Yep, that was over
that. I know. Rod's just like, a receipt.
You have to pay for something in a receipt. Am I right?
boo.
And Opie, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
One time a person didn't complete the transaction and then Opie had to pay for their items,
if you ever walked up to a self-checkout and not recognize the fact that it isn't like
welcoming you as a new customer?
Yeah.
No.
If there's a bunch of items sitting there.
It's all on the screen right there.
There's just a button that says pay.
I'm not staying at that self-checkout.
And there's no way Opie did that.
No, no, not at all.
And the way that he was all performing about it.
Like, did I ever tell you about the time I had to buy someone else's
toothpaste.
Like, okay.
He's so competitive.
I know.
I'm sure that didn't happen and shut off.
Stupid.
All right, so that's Opie this week.
Sure is.
Sorry to step on Adam Bush's toes.
I'll let him know that we can skip the FUs on our show this Wednesday.
I was watching this clip from MLC and Miseryl's Company.
And they have on Ethan Ralph.
of Ethan Ralphame.
And he's on there with Keanu.
Oh, gosh.
Thank God, Kianu is back on.
This is all she wanted.
This is why she likes to dish.
And this is why she had the big following out with John and went around and talked about
how she was uncomfortable around him.
She was just hoping she'd finally get the invite back to MLC.
And thank goodness she's back on there so that Kevin can act like he finds her interesting
for a little while until he doesn't need her anymore and just throws her away again
because Kianan doesn't recognize the cycle.
of abuse that she takes from.
Kevin Brennan,
she's an idiot.
But Keanu's back on and Ethan Ralph.
And they're telling this story about the fact that Ethan Ralph
texted Keanu.
Now, they're not like fronts.
But he texted Keanu while he was traveling to Chicago to see Scarlet Hampton.
And I found this to be quite interesting.
Last question.
You texted Keanu G. Thompson.
He wanted to know how to get.
like link up with stuttering john yeah no that's literally why i called yeah that's so
ethan ralph was trying to connect with stuttering john melendos why let's listen more let's listen to this
oh bob lee's there too what's up i didn't call it text right he because i thought she was still cool
with stuttering john i didn't know they had a battle coming on the horizon like so wait wait
started john is like larynck to you why you why you try to what i don't know what's wrong way i know you
have some beef with stuttering John that has nothing to do with me.
You talk to my wife.
I don't know that he's cool.
Look,
that's not, I have nothing to do with that.
I didn't know the background there.
I just see you guys.
To what? To give you side of the story?
No, this is before anything happened.
I just missed my flight.
Nothing happened. And then he ended up in jail three days later.
However, he said, and he was like, you know,
I'm still in the airport because he thought Stevie Lou for some reason stopped him from getting
That was a joke.
Yes, right.
And then he didn't get on the-
Canada is so stupid.
She takes everything so literally.
He thought Stevie Luce out from getting on his flight.
He's like, that's a joke.
I didn't think Stevie Luce was going to have a flight.
Second flight, and I happened to be up very early
because Gino and I were flying home from Austin, New York,
and he went, I'm still at the airport,
and I had seen him text or tweet something about Stevie Loo
getting him taken off his flight.
And I answered.
And then he said that he wanted to like link up with Stuttering John and do a crossover.
I said, to be honest, I can't really deal with the guy anymore.
Ralph, I'll hook you up with John.
This is a great idea.
I think what Sturring John needs in his life is Ethan Ralph.
I don't think anything bad can happen from that.
I think it's a great idea.
And I'm here for it.
And Ralph, good on you, buddy.
That's a great idea.
This is brilliant.
It's never gone wrong for anyone who's done it before.
No.
This is only going to be wonderful for this very program.
Let's get into it.
What's been happening is this guy, $2.00 Dan from Nice Podcast Stupid, is now the Wednesday co-host of Suttering John's show.
And people have been noticing, myself included, I talked about this on Devilverse Live on Thursday,
that Dan's a bit of a ball washer.
He goes on and just tells John everything John wants to hear.
And John loves to hear what he wants to hear.
It's his favorite thing in the world.
So John's eating it up.
The problem is, Dan's doing, he's,
later than on a little thick.
Oh.
You know, and so people in John's camp are picking up on this and going,
I don't think this guy's on the up and up.
I mean, you're great now, John, don't get me wrong.
You're pretty amazing.
But I was amazing as Dan's as you are.
Yeah, he's lathering it up a bit much.
So I played this on Devil versus Live,
but I want to play this again to put this into context
of what I'm talking about as far as,
the ball washing that's going on.
You know,
that maybe I'm going out on a limb here.
I don't think you'll stabbing the back ever.
Great intro, John.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me again.
It's always a pleasure.
And I just got to say,
I just going to lead off,
you are exuding more confidence
than I think I've seen since, like,
the Howard Stern days.
I mean,
you seem like you're on cloud nine right now.
Maybe I'm totally misreading things,
but am I right or am I right?
I think you're right
And you went in there
Confident calm
You came off great
Really you know you look you you compound you
You showed yourself really good on a tough environment
And and you owned him
And he had no
He wasn't ready for for what he got from the Duke
On on Hughesie show
He was ill prepared
You're a larger than life personality
People gravitate to you
That's why they fixate on you
that's why they have to build their shows around you no one is gravitating to carl like if carl just
up and did something like he's not going to get people that are going to follow him but you you just
attract attention so dan's saying all the things john wants you're amazing before he drank that
beer the look of just pleasure on his face he loves this so much it's his favorite thing and
dan knows that so dan you're not going to stab me in the back does a first time
for everything.
So this is like every time Dan's on the show,
this is all it is. It's just Dan go, John, you're the best,
you're the greatest, everyone's jealous of you.
This is a pretty funny thing that specific T put in.
Dad was an anonymous.
You have, uh, Dan is the manager at the Stuttering John's ball wash.
Yeah.
And he takes his job seriously.
He sure does.
He's there for a reason.
And so, uh, last night,
Abba's on John's show.
and Ava brings up in the chat as well that like Dan's trolling you.
This is unrealistic praise that you're getting from this man.
And I was like, and ball washing is my job.
Right.
If someone's going to be watching balls around here, first mine and then yours, John.
So Dan's at dinner or something with his wife and he's watching this, of course.
And he's like, send me the link.
Send me the link.
I got to set the record straight.
and so they do send him to the link and he comes on and I don't have the clips of this because it was nothing.
Dan just rambled for the first 10 minutes of his appearance.
He didn't make any points.
I didn't know where he was going with.
I was in the chat going, get to the point.
I was in the chat going, get to the point.
What the fuck are you talking about?
He didn't really know how to explain his position.
He was having a hard time.
So John finally goes, well, listen, Dan, you're getting accused of going overboard with your praise for me.
me. I don't think that's the case.
Right. Of course not.
Yeah, he goes, you know, Vegas beer
sales, Dickka and Ava, I'll tell him that
maybe you're trolling me. I think that you're just praising me
just the right amount. Yes. I think you're
sucking my dick too much here.
So, Dan has to
address whether he was
a little over the top with his ball
washing. Were you being overboard
at the time?
I didn't think I was. I didn't think I was.
I mean, I was my point. So you don't
feel. Oh, no, no. I'm sorry.
That's my point.
You didn't feel like you were being overboard.
You were just being Dan.
Am I correct?
I'm a serious guy.
I like to hide people up.
Why is that being,
why is that,
like,
why are you being accused of going overboard
if you were being what you believed?
All right.
It's kind of a sentence.
Going overboard if you're being what you believed.
Amazing.
Right.
So Dan comes on and now he's asked to walk this tight rope of,
I've been praising John,
nonstop on his show.
And I have to come on and be like,
maybe I was exaggerating.
And John's like, were you exaggerating?
He's like, no.
If anything, I wasn't saying enough positive things about you.
Dan's like, man, I rehearsed this so well in the mirror.
This is not going the way I rehearsed.
Dude, were you watching this when he came on last night?
Yeah.
Did you notice he could not get to a point or explain himself at all?
Like he had no strategy.
It was almost like someone else was listening and he had to sound different somehow.
Right.
Is he still at dinner with his wife?
And she's like, what the fuck?
Fuck.
He's sitting up the green screen behind him at the restaurant.
Again, this is what we're doing.
What the fuck?
So this turns into a very odd conversation because Ava has a problem with Dan.
Yeah.
Because Dan is pro striking.
And of course, Ava came on the show with John.
Sure.
And they had a whole argument.
Yeah.
We documented it probably on the bonus show, right?
Is that what we talked about?
Okay.
On the bonus show, WTP, we documented this argument that Ava had with John about striking channels.
And Ava's whole point was, and I agree with her, is, all right, that's not fun to strike channels and try to take people down.
And all it's going to do is create more enemies.
And if you want people to start seeing you as a sympathetic character that's being bullied everywhere you go, like that Rodney's gig is a perfect example where you walked into this hostile environment and everyone's there to clown you.
and you stood up to them.
So you got people on your side now
who are going, yeah, these guys are all just bullies,
bullying this poor guy, like he's the victim.
So don't be the villain and strike channels
and take away MLC for 10 days.
He has a big audience who all want to watch his show
and now that you try to find it on Rumble,
which is not easy.
Apparently it's MLC podcast with no spaces.
I couldn't find it.
And I know how to use computers.
Hmm. But Ava's old point was,
John, if we're trying to win
in the court of public opinion,
I'm going to need you to stop being a villain.
Stop doing things that make you look like an asshole
so that it's very easy for people to be like,
hey, John's the asshole in all of this.
And $2.00, Dan went on his show and said,
I don't think you should remove your strike from Kevin's channel.
And also, you know, Carl's got a couple strikes on his channel.
I guess one more.
That's going to get taken down.
So Dan's like undoing everything that Ava had tried to do.
And that's why they had an issue.
And I guess Ava reached out to Dan privately to talk to him about it.
So that's really the most of these arguments they have on the show revolves around that.
So I just wanted to set up the context of that.
But it's very funny because as Dan is explaining that no, I actually do believe what I say when I'm ball washing you, John.
Ava's not buying it.
Because these people don't understand what it's like to when you believe in something and to hype up.
Like she takes the camera off.
John, did you hear something?
I put lipstick on.
I like this.
So Dan doesn't know what to do.
He's just like,
well,
it might seem like I'm ball washing.
It's over the top.
But that's because these people don't have the passion for you that I do.
I'm just,
I'm so into it.
They don't get you.
Even Ava is laughing at this.
She's like,
oh, come on, Dan.
We both know what's going on here.
This is just a quick clip because they compliment Ava on her lipstick now that she's back on.
And this is the witchiest witch laugh.
you've ever heard. This is like straight off of a Halloween CD from the 90s.
Okay. Yeah, I can tell.
It looks good, by the way. Very good. What color is that?
I didn't over top that. I didn't put that in post. It sounds like I did.
Dan's in what it looks like he's wearing makeup. Yes. Dan is one wearing lipstick and blush.
We play that again. Okay. Yeah, I can tell.
It looks good, by the way. Very good. What color is that?
It's crazy.
That's so great.
So John wants to believe Dan so badly.
He wants to believe that Dan really does look up to him and thinks he's great and he's the best guy in the dabblerverse.
Look, I don't care.
I think you're a good guy, Dan.
I don't fucking, you know.
Super chats are coming in.
Look at $2 ball washer.
That's me.
That's my likeness.
So I am making you money, John.
Maybe it didn't come in on on Wednesday.
It's coming in on Friday.
Okay.
what he's talking about here.
Could be Vince the Warrior.
I don't know,
but there's a guy named $2
Ball Washer
that's got a photo of Dan
as the avatar.
And I will play that for you at the end.
And I'm telling you this,
this is a teaser.
You do not want to miss John's reaction to this.
It is priceless.
It's fantastic.
And I remember when I was watching it last night,
I was like, I have to find that tomorrow
in order to play this on WATP.
This is amazing.
But first,
Dan's argument is,
John needed a YouTube TV password and Dan provided his,
which proves that all of the ball washing must be real.
And this isn't a troll.
Because who else would give up a password to a guy, you know,
that they were trolling.
It would never happen.
Yeah.
They're still in the honeymoon phase.
Right.
But we've seen this honeymoon phase so many times.
With so many people.
But I defend the you with the homage.
And I say, well, you did give me your YouTube TV password.
And I did that with no, there was no, there was no pretense.
There was no quid pro quo.
I didn't do that.
I just did that because I feel like we're hitting it off.
I feel like we're, we're, we're cool.
So like, I would do that with a bunch.
I was trying to convey the arm.
What I give, what I give, what I give someone that I didn't trust my password to fucking
YouTube, like you could have fucking gone on and fucked my channel, really.
Yes.
at that point.
So if that doesn't demonstrate that I trust you,
I don't know what,
I mean,
I don't know what more I can do at that point.
So how do you respond to that?
On the YouTube channel,
it's like the cost-benefit analysis.
It's like it's fair to assume
that John's not going to just sabotage your YouTube channel
and you can just change your password
whatever you want to.
So,
you know,
that is what is.
Now,
the reason why I play that clip is because this gets brought up a lot
throughout this conversation.
Because John is convinced
the fact that he got the YouTube TV password
is proof that Dan's actually his good buddy
who's never going to turn out of it.
Come on.
But he did prelude that with,
I defended you and you gave me the password.
So that was the transaction.
Right.
And Ava will bring up the point later that like,
John, you know, Vince the lawyer does nice things for you all the time?
Gets back in your good graces and then stabs you in the back.
You've never seen this pattern before.
You don't recognize this.
He's like, he never gave me a password.
I swear to God.
Jesus.
No.
He's so stupid. He just wants to believe. He wants to believe so badly that he has a friend in Dan. It's so important to him. And so...
It's such a shame. You say it all the time. That one time where he listed his three friends that he has, introducing people as my good friend, this is my best friend. I'm almost 50 years old. I couldn't even imagine walking up to somebody and saying, my one friend, meet my other friend.
friend. This is my best friend. That's so
embarrassing. It's worse than that.
Dude's not even in
the screen. He's not even
in the camera shot.
And John's going, Dan, Dan,
get over here. You've got to meet Ava.
Ava. This is my best friend. Guys, look, look.
Look at I have a friend over. It's so
pathetic. All right. So,
this is where we started to the conversation about striking
channels and Ava's
concerned with Dan being pro-strike.
You called me out on it. You didn't like
that I was pro keeping the strikes, right, on Kevin Brennan.
You thought that he should be more of a goodwill ambassador,
whereas I thought you should hold your ground on that.
How am I wrong on that?
You started, at that point, you're already walking it back.
When you first came on his show, you led, you led with Carl, Carl has two strikes.
He does, right, doesn't he?
So when you say Carl has two strikes and KB has two strikes, and KB has two strikes,
and then you start arguing the like ethics of strikes,
it looks like you're telling him to strike Carl and get his channel taken out.
When did I say you should strike Carl's channel?
You said Carl's two strikes and it's one more he gets taken down.
What do you think that implies?
All right.
Well, I appreciate what Abba is saying here.
Yeah.
Because Ava is right.
Yeah.
It's like, well, that's what you're putting out there is that let's take these people down.
And that will only make you look like a villain.
If channels get taken down that people are fans up, you know,
we've over 37,000 subscribers on our YouTube channel,
I very much appreciate.
I mean, at least John is paying attention to this.
I just didn't leave you.
John just walks away.
He just checked out.
He's got to go get a beer.
That's the other thing, too.
I don't have the clips.
It's too much.
This episode's six hours long.
But there are moments, and if you're still watching,
where John's like, you know what's crazy, Abba?
Because I've had six beers, and I'm still not even drunk.
I can find that clip for next time.
It's so fucking funny.
I'm going to go get two more beers.
How many times did he say that?
All right.
I'm going to get two-ball beers.
Just put a fridge where you're fucking broadcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wasn't playing it.
He wasn't playing it going six hours, I guess.
So, all right.
So now we've established what's going on here.
And Ava's obviously sticking up for our channel and doesn't want channels to get struck, which I appreciate that.
I'm with Ava on that, obviously.
And Dan steps in it right here and has a hard time recovering.
The two strikes.
are because Carl has become reckless.
Do you understand?
Listen, I can't
if you're being disingenuous or if you're just weird.
But like,
this is too... Let's not talk about weird.
Come on.
I know. I'm a man. I have tips.
I'm not saying that, but let's...
No, it's... Okay.
No, it's... Okay. Do I have to give this disclaimer
every time I make any observation with...
No, no, no, no, no. Go on. I'm sorry. I didn't need to derog.
I'm talking about you and what you said
and the way I'm analyzing and has nothing to do with me being
trans. Okay. I never said anything about being trans, but go on.
Well, what did you mean? My sister's a lesbian. My sister's been docs. Like I, I'm as
about as LGBT-friendly as a guy you're going to fucking run into. So don't,
let's not play that card on me, please. I guess to me, I guess to me,
she was asking, why did you say she was weird? Thank you. Yeah. Well, I mean,
I'm sorry, our time is up.
sink on your feet, man.
Oh, shit.
It's like a beauty contestant being asked a question.
Yes.
Fuck.
I don't know what the answer is.
Pass.
He could have easily just said that laugh a few minutes ago.
That's at the end.
Yeah, or her wig or clothing choices.
John, of all people, is the one to clarify.
Yeah.
It was very surprising.
I just got back from the fridge, but I think it was going on here.
Dan tried to pull the, I have black friends card.
Yeah.
He's like, I could possibly make it funny for being a freak trans person.
My sister is a lesbian.
Get in here.
Meeter.
Show him.
All right.
So let's fight now what this really boils down to.
Why is Dan pro striking?
Why do you go on John's channel and say we should be striking more or not less?
Like, when you say Carl has two strikes, if he has one more gets his channel taken down and you're saying.
I don't like Carl.
Don't.
I want to make it very fucking clear.
I don't like Carl.
I don't like Shulie.
I don't like Buckman.
I know.
There's a lot of people that I don't like.
All right.
Now, you might be wondering,
why doesn't Dan like Carl?
We'll get the answer to that.
Don't worry.
It's very interesting.
It's a very interesting answer to find out why he thinks my channel should be taken down.
I mean,
you met him and you've talked to him and you offended him in some sort of way.
I've debated him.
on Husey's show, I think twice.
So I have talked to Dan a couple of times.
Did he send you pants?
He has never sent you pants or asked me to put pants on.
No hamburgers.
That's good.
Fair enough.
So, wow.
Abba then explains to Dan that right after she convinced John to be the good guy and not
strike channels, Dan comes on and encourages the striking.
And that was the issue that Ava had with Dan.
And John, of course, defends his new buddy.
Well, if I could just defend Dan, because,
I already defended you, Ava, and I'll defend Dan.
You know, if you're going to hold everybody to every single thing that we say every single time,
just in one statement, then we're, then we're fucked.
I mean, because we all make mistakes, no?
Well, hold on a second.
We're starting judging people on what they say and do.
That sounds crazy, Ava.
Let's not do that.
That's the funniest response.
I once wrote a song for Howard Stern.
I don't want to talk about it.
I did it because I thought Howard would think racism is funny.
I don't think racism is funny.
God damn.
Even funnier than that statement is,
well,
I defended Ava and now it's Dan's turn.
Right.
Don't get mad at me.
Guys need to share.
These are his children that will talk to him.
Yeah.
Yes, very much so.
All right.
So,
John says,
don't worry about what people say.
You know,
they say lots of stuff, right?
And so I was like,
well,
no,
it wasn't just like a passing.
comment. He seemed to come in there with like that was his main thesis.
I would argue that he made a 35 minute like proposal to you to like consider just reconsider
striking and striking people again. It wasn't just an offhand comment. It was part of like a whole
messaging thing he did. So Dan here did not come in prepared for this conversation at all.
He wasn't ready to explain why he ballwashes so much and why it seems over the top. And everyone
thinks he's trolling John. He didn't have a good explanation for that. And now he's being
asked, well, why are you telling John and encouraging him to be the bad guy and turn people against
him by striking popular channels? And Dan cannot defend himself. If that's the way it came off,
then my bad. What more can I say? He is spineless. He's just walking everything back.
Oh, so it's bad to be. All right. Well, yeah, I mean, if that was that what I said, I don't think.
Maybe that's what you heard. Right. Yeah, I apologize if that's how it came off. Dan, that's weak.
Yeah, stay enough for yourself.
If that's what you, if you want John's striking channels and say it, but he can't.
As soon as I was on there, is just like, oh, yeah, sorry, never mind.
Take it all that.
The thing, he's clearly not prepared for Ava to be there.
Like, he really thought it was just going to be he and John chewing the shit and he could just
be on that.
Yeah, he's good at kissing John's ass and getting John all pumped up for him.
But yet, John explains, listen, it's not just Dan who wants me striking channels, you
No. But there's a lot of my friends who think I should keep striking. I mean, I mean,
Dan's not in the minority here because, you know, so, but I am not going to. I took your
advice. Didn't I am up? So he's like, no, no, a lot of my friends are scub bags. Yep. Yeah.
That's what I'm hearing. I got, I got a bunch of people are going to be terrible advice and telling me to be an
asshole. And that's not even true. Well, it might be, Vegas beer sells Jerry seems like a real piece of
shit. Sure, but a bunch of people.
He doesn't have a lot of friends.
He doesn't have a bunch of friends.
And the one friend is here saying, don't do it.
Also, what's not forget, as we're talking about John's striking channels, what he is doing
is actually against YouTube's terms of service because he's putting in DMCA strikes,
mostly on Chulie's channel, and they get reversed pretty quickly every time.
Over 30 strikes have all been reversed because it's fair use.
And John knows that.
What John is doing, I mean, they're.
could be legal ramifications for what John is doing.
And maybe that's why he's not doing it anymore.
I don't know.
But the fact that we're acting like this is a normal thing to do, strike people for using
content in a fair use setting, it's villainous, actually.
It's not what you should be doing at all.
And so the fact that John has people chirping in his ear, keep doing it tells me that they
also have ulterior motives, that they also want to see John.
You know, I don't know what Dan's end game is.
It seems like he's in there to troll John.
That's what I was going to ask you.
Does Dan have an issue with John?
Is there anything at any point that you're aware of that either John said or Dan said
or is he just in here is a fucking troll just the mess of this guy just to try and get in and destroy him?
When John was off camera in the bathroom or whatever, he should have been,
Ava, be cool.
Stop my spot.
I think I think Dan is looking for attention.
And this is his way of getting attention.
Okay.
Do I think he's trolling John?
Yes, of course he has.
It'd be crazy not to.
I think you're right.
A lot of these people get here because they want attention.
They're like, well, since I'm here, I might as well make a point or two.
Yeah.
I mean, we saw the happen with Quadfather.
His whole thing was like, fuck John.
I'm going to get on the show.
And then it turned into, oh, gee, do you like have me on?
Oh, it's cool.
It's good to be here.
Yeah, right.
All right.
So this is really funny because now Dan and Ava are worried that, you know,
they're competing with each other for John's attention.
I'm not here to like steal your place at the table here.
Like I don't look at that way.
I don't.
Okay.
But it feels like it feels like you're trying to be adversarial and I'm not trying to be adversarial here at all.
I'm not.
I'm looking at external.
Hold on, hold on.
You can't, you kind of came here to talk about and we're talking about the thing I
So I'm not trying to be adversarial.
I want you to, I like that.
I wish you guys just all get along here.
No, let's work.
John doesn't know how to work out anything.
Just apologize.
It's always his solution to everything.
It's like, no, no, I was like, no, we need to change your attitude about striking.
Like, this is something that we have to need to do if we're going to be on John's channel.
We can't be striking other channels.
It makes all of us look bad.
And John is like, why don't we all just like sing kumbaya?
What are we doing?
Can you both go back to ball washing?
You can both get me here.
There's two testicles.
So there's a number of times when John just comes off as a child,
as the other two are having their conversation.
Like time to, like, are you?
Can I just say one thing?
It's my show.
Just could I say one thing?
Yes, John.
It's your show.
Yes.
You can say one thing if you want.
This is far more entertaining than your show, though.
I know.
He's just getting drunk.
He's just getting drunk watching these two.
He's having fun.
All right.
So now, let's get back to the important topic.
Because we got way off sidetracked on the striking thing.
Let's get back to is Dan just a troll?
Is there an end game for this?
That's how this started.
You thought Dan was playing me.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, but like you asked me on the spot and that he's worked out on my head because honestly,
no one knows.
Why I came here.
I wanted to.
Yeah, that's why he came here.
But my conclusion of that response was that I don't think he's trolling.
I don't know what's going on with him.
Yeah, but I said, I don't believe he is.
And you said, yes, he is.
Okay.
So here's what's happening.
John, of course, wants to believe that Dan sincere and that Dan thinks that he's amazing and the best.
And Ava's like, no, this is all a troll.
And then Ava realized, well, hold on a second.
I want to see how this plays out.
That's part of the fun of being part of John's circus show.
Of course.
Various characters that come in, the clay dabblers, the vince of the lawyers, you know,
and they come in and they wreak havoc for a little bit,
then they go away and Dan's the latest idiot to get into the mix here.
And so I think Ava went, wait, what am I, what's my role here?
I'm supposed to be policing who actually likes John and who doesn't.
Who like her?
Whatever's going to happen is going to happen.
It'll be fun.
So I think that's what's happening in this.
And of course, John once again is a child,
and we hear more about the YouTube TV password.
And what I can say one thing?
It is my show.
I, the one thing I will tell you, Ava, when it comes to the YouTube thing,
and I know we glossed over that,
Dan let me have that password for three and a half to four hours
while I watched the whole World Baseball Classic game.
Oh my God.
His friendship.
His friendship is so cheap.
Yeah.
Yes.
You can buy and sell this guy for nothing.
This is wild.
Four hours.
I thought it was like, here's my password.
Use it as much and as long as you possibly want.
Nope, just to watch one baseball game, which I want to point out how enough John is and how poor he is.
We know that he's been having issues with his fire stick, even though he has a new Samsung smart TV.
how the fuck
so this baseball game
that John wanted to watch
is on Fox
it's public airwaves
it's free
and it's stupid
how the fuck
I watch the game
it was fun
how the fuck
does John not know
how to watch
a baseball game
on Fox
he needs Dan's
his new friend Dan's
YouTube TV password
oh my God
and he's bragging about it
he's excited by
it's like yeah
it's great that I got a password
in order to watch a baseball game
it's free from my friend.
Johnny, you buy like a digital antenna for 20 bucks and you can watch regular TV.
It's got to be built into the TV, right?
Doug, I mean, it's a new TV.
Fine aren't.
I had to buy it for mine.
All right, get to get the fucking antenna than John.
Jesus Christ.
It's insane that he doesn't know how to watch Fox.
Jesus, that's crazy.
But how poor is this asshole?
He can't afford any type of YouTube TV.
or cable or something.
I spent all my money on the crystal ball.
That turban wasn't free, you know.
What an idiot.
All right.
So, okay, this is great.
Because Abba actually speaks up here
and makes them pretty good points.
So I could have done a lot of bad shit to Dan
in that three and a half
if I was that kind of person.
But Dan showed me that I would never do something like.
That's that's retarded
What the fuck?
What are you gonna do to Dan?
You didn't even know Dan.
Like are you don't like you gave me his password.
I know but like wouldn't even know how to fuck with him.
Like it could have looked at my email.
He could have looked at my YouTube channel.
He could have done.
Why would he do that if you're just being nice to him?
I don't know.
It's so ridiculous.
It's like this person shared a password for you so you watch the baseball game.
Why would you then go in and start sending
emails to people, you know, start sending child porn to people using their email address.
I don't know what kind of the various things you'd be up to, but it's just like, he says,
like, I was like, yeah, why the fuck would anyone do that? What are you talking about?
You want to pat on the back for not sabotaging?
Yes, he does. He does. He thinks that's a real flex.
He really does. And again, like we were talking earlier before we went on, like, I think my
biggest regret with not being able to go to that Allentown show is I know the area, I know the
I know everywhere that John could have gone afterwards, I could have bought his friendship
for a beer.
Yeah.
I could have easily done that.
I could be on a show right now instead of $2 tan.
All you have to say is, John, I know, Carl, I do his show.
He's a narcissist.
And he'd be like, dog, you're one of the good ones.
You and Grant.
That's true.
Sorry, Carl, I wouldn't be on your show for at least six months because I would try to give
the show as much as possible.
You wouldn't be the first one.
You wouldn't be the first one to be like, hey, I'm working on something.
I can't come on your show for a while.
Like, that's fine.
Do what you got to do.
You know, dog, thanks for the beer, but most of my friends give me passwords.
You got Netflix.
You got, what do you got?
All right.
So, I was trying to explain that just because a password was shared doesn't mean that Dan is not trolling John.
All right.
So you still think Dan is.
just trolling me. No, I'm just saying
that's not an argument against what I was
saying is that, yes, Dan.
No, you made the thing that, so
he gives you a password for two seconds,
he can change it. You made that statement
and I just backed it up, saying,
no, it wasn't, he didn't,
he didn't just change it. He gave me it for
four hours. I was just backing up
what he said. I didn't say he changed it. I'm just saying
it, like, because again, he's
came on your show and talked about
the long game, which is
reference to trolling someone over a long period of time.
And so in that context, you can give someone a YouTube password knowing that you're not
going to do anything.
But if he decides to just fucking do something, he can...
Can I ask you both guys a question?
Okay.
I mean, both, you know, both people questions.
Sorry, that's just...
Oops.
Can I just be straight with you two dudes right now?
Man to man.
Let me ask you those.
So it's very funny
And then Ava goes on to explain
Like convince the lawyer
Used to do nice things for you
It's part of the whole game
It's how they get your trust
And how they then screw over
It's the first test to pass
Exactly
But nope
John is
He's one of the good guys
One of the few good guys
Why the fuck
Am I the one everyone can trust
But nobody can trust
Anybody else in his fucking
Cesspool of ridiculousness
because I wouldn't do anything to Ferris
because I'm that kind of fucking guy.
Didn't we start this by talking about John's striking channels?
Yeah.
And struck Kevin's channel so he doesn't have it for 10 days.
Yeah, and they're treating him like it's an addiction that he's trying to defeat.
Right.
But I like that John goes, why am I do anything bad to people?
That's not the kind of person I am.
Let me remind you the clip that we played on WTP this past episode.
Let's look at the objective data, shall we?
Lady Kay. When I struck Lady Kay's Patreon with my attorneys at Parker Stanbury, I not only struck him
for the MP3 of my audio book that was behind his paywall thumb dumb, I also struck him for his
discord where there was racist and hateful things being said.
John's was like, why would I ever do anything bad to somebody?
I'm not that kind of person at all.
A few days before this, he's bragging about trying to get my Patreon taken down
because someone wrote a gamer word in my Discord server.
What an asshole.
So I don't know how no one sees that.
Well, I guess people do obviously see it, but no one wants to tell John what's going on.
And he wouldn't listen anyway, so it doesn't matter.
And so John is so wants Dan to be.
sincere and legit that he is convincing himself that that's the case.
If Dan is trolling me, he's doing a damn good job, isn't he?
Dan's like, actually, I haven't started yet, but...
He's not doing a great job.
That's why he got the link because everyone was saying he's trolling you and it was obvious to
everyone.
Is he doing such a great job?
No.
The whole discussion.
The only one person thinks so.
The whole discussion about he's not doing a good job.
All right, so let's find out what Dan's mission does.
So finally he reveals the reason why he is on John's show and pretending that John's a great host and good podcaster.
So long game.
Long game means a lot of different things.
When I say long game, I'm thinking of how the fuck do we take Carl and Shulie and Kevin down over the next fucking year?
Well, that's a good point.
And the best way to do it, the best way to do it is to attach my fucking, my, my, my wagon to
John Stuttering John.
This is a weird reason to exist.
To take others down.
So his mission is to take down
me, Shulie and Kevin Brennan.
Just to destroy people on the internet.
Yes.
That's why.
Like that I cannot.
And again, Carl,
like I don't dive too deeply into the dabble verse.
I get everything from your show and just try and process it from there.
But some of these people,
I just don't understand how you could live this way.
right like they always say that in politics you can't win a race by calling out your opponent right
I mean it happens all the time but you can't yeah well it's not a good strategy just be like
you shouldn't vote for Kamala she's an idiot it's like yeah I know that but why would I vote for you
what do you bring to this but Dan's whole thing is just like hey my mission is to destroy other people
and this is a very much an emotional thing Aaron Imholt talks about this all the time
we're just like, oh, so Carl and Patrick are trying to take me down and run me off the internet.
And so I lose my channel.
It's like, no, that's never been our objective.
I want you to podcast all the time because this little piggy yesterday was a blast.
We did over three hours just talking about all the dumb shit Aaron said during his show the past week.
And there's a lot of it.
And so the idea of like, my mission is to get rid of this thing that people enjoy is a weird way to live your life.
It's not a healthy way to live your life.
and I don't think you're going to be successful at that.
I've seen a lot of people talk about taking down the dabalverse.
There are a few people like, I'm going to defeat the dabalvers.
Like, whoa.
What even talking about?
I live here.
Yeah, right, exactly.
It's our own.
Motherfucker, don't do that.
And it's something we've talked about before, but like, nobody would know who John is.
Nobody would pay attention to John if he got rid of all of you guys.
Yes.
Like, that's the only way he gets any traffic whatsoever.
We made him money.
We made him a substantial amount of money.
I'm assuming that a lot, if not the great majority of people that listen to your show, do not remember John as part of the Howard Stern show.
That's how I know him.
But a lot of people just know of him from this.
And he's getting super chats from this.
He's getting attention from this.
He's getting, I don't know, he's getting those comedy gigs from this.
But still, like, he would be forgot.
Well, the reason why anyone shows up to his comedy gigs is because of this.
The dabblers show up.
This is funny.
So Ava just laughs right at Dan, and both Dan and John are like, what the fuck, Avah?
That's not cool.
In fact, Kevin, we were talking about Kevin's funeral for his brother.
Kevin's, what's funny?
Oh, but that's not really polite to laugh.
No, I love you.
No, it's just.
No, no, no, no, no, no, don't.
You're laughing.
Am I pontificating?
Is that what's funny?
Yeah, it's just not.
I don't laugh at it.
You're funny.
It's not...
Off, please, I haven't wrung everything out of this guy yet.
Right.
Let's not laugh directly to the face of my desk.
Two ball watches me, please.
We want to keep him around.
This is so great.
I don't know what this says about me,
but I'm kind of attracted to doava right now.
Like, I'm just watching her go, like, run rough shot on this idiot.
And it's pretty fantastic.
What's amazing about that clip is that whenever John's talking,
I was laughing, Josh's like, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty good.
And then Dan's talking.
and she talks about it's like,
Ahma,
that's inappropriate manners.
This is a comedy show,
but that's not what we do around here
and start laughing at people.
That's so funny.
That's insane.
I know.
This Papa John persona that he has,
you know,
being the father figure is hello.
It's amazing.
He's having a great time with this too.
I forgot what this is like.
Just a quick side note
while I'm thinking about it.
So I've gone on,
I told Abba,
directly to Aba's face when I was on Hughesies
that I think she might be a drug addict
because of the way she behaves and her mood changes
and shifts throughout shows and stuff like that
and the fact she was always going off camera
and coming back, whatever.
And I heard Ava say the other day on John's dream,
you know, I'm the only one who doesn't do drugs in this dabble verse.
John's like, I like smoke and weed.
She's like, I don't do any drugs.
Oh, okay.
Then on this show last night,
Ava tells the story of going back to North Carolina
or South Carolina, wherever she's from,
and getting into a fight at a bar,
well, no, at a casino.
She was gambling at a casino,
and she was tripping on mushrooms.
So as she was losing money,
she's giggling and laughing,
and some guys, like, don't laugh about losing money
and clot her.
Jesus Christ.
Respect for money.
Yeah, that was the story.
Yeah, I did it.
You're on mushrooms in a casino,
and you don't do any drugs at all?
Well, that seems hard to pull off.
but maybe that was a different time.
Maybe since the transition or something, things are different.
I don't know.
All right, so let's find out.
Dan's going to explain his rationale for wanting to take me down.
Now, I mentioned this earlier.
We're going to find out why does Dan dislike me?
He came out and said, I don't like Carl, I don't like Shulie.
I don't like Samuel Buckman.
So let's find out.
What did we do to Dan, the reason why he wants to take down my channel?
Kevin, so we brought up about Kevin not going to his brother's funeral.
I was very purposely
respectful.
I didn't I didn't do any sort of speculation.
I didn't know what the whole situation was.
I just know he didn't go to his brother's funeral.
It seemed weird to me.
And that's all I said.
I didn't say that he was excommunicated.
You know, I didn't even hold it against him.
But I don't,
and then next thing you know, he's like doxing my sister
and talking about my wife and talking about all this.
It's like, these people are fucking scumbags.
They are.
And I don't like the way that they act.
And they try to be all holier than now, like, they're the good guys.
They're not good guys.
These guys are not good.
They're not righteous.
And if, and if I'm looking at, like, who's closer to a good guy than a bad guy,
John, to me, you're closer to a good guy.
Come on.
Come on.
So he wants to take down my channel because Kevin Brennan docks his sister.
Yeah.
I mean, that's so disingenuous.
He does realize that Kevin and I don't agree on anything.
I have nothing to do with Kevin's actions at all.
I disagree with everything he does on the internet.
Hold on.
Wait a second, though.
John doesn't like you.
John doesn't like Kevin.
Let's not think about it any more than that.
That's it.
Yeah, that must be the teams in all of this.
And does John pick up on the fact that Dan said,
you're not a good guy?
You're just closer to one?
Yeah.
No, he doesn't.
But yeah, that was interesting.
If I had to choose a good guy, I guess it'd be you?
Yeah.
If I have to pick.
Yeah.
Dan, get sued for something that's frivolous and tell me if you think the guy's a good guy who sued you.
It's a lot of fun.
It's a lot of fun spending all that money on nonsense.
So, yeah, I guess we're all on the same team, Kevin and me, and of course, these folks are all on the same team, and they're ready to bring it.
We're all on the same fucking team.
Yeah, let's not pound on each other.
We're all on the same team here.
That's right.
All right.
Good. So now after all of this arguing, they're united. They're the access powers in my opinion, but what do I know? And so they're ready to come after us. So we got to watch out for that. But we find out why Dan is for the strike against Kevin's channel. And Dan says something here that, like I said, I debated with him on Hughesy show. And Dan said, well, if there's DMCA strike, shouldn't you stop playing clips? And I said, well, no, it's fair use. Just because someone's misusing the DMC.
system doesn't mean I should stop playing clips that would be crazy and all of a sudden Dan
learn something my my point was not to be an adversarial to what you said I was speaking from the
heart and really specifically about Kevin Brennan really that's what I was thinking of
when I watch Kevin Brennan and I've seen it before when he does the stream snipes and he turns
on John's channel and it's not transformative and he doesn't and he sits there and he doesn't pause
He just plays it.
You can't even tell which channel you're watching at some point.
If he didn't see Pinky's face, you wouldn't know what channel you're watching.
To me, that is a clear, that's a clear, strikeable offense to me.
And I think that's what John was doing in the case of Kevin.
And by that, by that extension, that's why I didn't think he should pull back that strike.
So Dan understands fair use, because he didn't at all on Hughesy's show.
It's almost like he just wants to be a contrarian.
And he actually doesn't have real opinions
and it's a waste of time to listen to anything he has to say.
Hmm.
Go figure.
That's your opinion.
It's like he doesn't stand for anything.
But I'm glad he figured out what he uses.
I'm glad he understands not to strike channels like Shulies and mine
that play clips and transform the content for a different audience.
It's good.
But you're on Kevin Brennan's team.
Right.
I forgot.
Yes.
I sign up everything Kevin does.
When Kevin was putting John's cell phone number on X,
I was like, yeah, I was high-fiving him.
I couldn't wait.
Yes.
These are all grown adults who have to be part of a team.
It's so stupid.
So this is Mossy Clips, which is Will Heron.
Thank you, Will Herron, for pulling this.
I was able to pull from his package.
But this I had to go to the source material for because he didn't have this in his package.
And this is when they go to the superchets after they resolve all these issues.
And there's this guy who's the $2 ball washer that's got a photo of Dan.
You were talking about this earlier, Doug.
You don't like bald guys.
You don't like the way they look.
Oh, God.
There's a reason why Dan wears a hat and glasses, dark sunglasses.
Oh.
Every time you see him on the internet.
And John gets a kick out of this.
I'm glad we're all now in love with each other.
Now we can all, now we're all hug and kiss and everything.
Yeah, everything's cool.
Everything's cool.
But, and now I forgot what I was going to say.
But I did want to say something that, but forget it.
going to read a super chat.
$2 a ball washer.
Is that you?
That's an old picture of me, yes, that they've
repurposed.
Jeez, I thought they used like corky or something.
Two dollars a bowl watcher.
He just called you retarded.
I'm not.
How fucking funny is that?
John's like, holy shit, is that you?
That's creepy.
That's not a content.
That's not a content.
That's what my face looks like out of context.
Yeah, calling it an older photo doesn't help your case.
No, no, not at all.
I just would have said no, not me.
Not, no, definitely not me.
I thought it was corky.
Damn.
Good luck with all this, Dan.
But I was watching this the other day.
Clipper pulled this together, I think, Style 119.
John loves me.
He's in love.
He just do it.
But he came out with some comments.
that somehow
he could never be friends with me
because I'm a narcissist
I mean
I mean by his brother's own admission
oh why am I play this clip fuck
Chris can I help me
shit why did I hit play on this damn it
just do it is a
narcissist
and you have
the dwarf as my witness.
And the dwarf.
Talking about Vince the lawyer?
I was going to say.
The guy who never lies?
That's your witness on this one?
Okay.
Was there when Grant said
his brother could never admit
when he's wrong.
Ever. Fuck you, Grant.
I've just never been wrong yet.
But when it happens, I promise I'll admit it.
And
Lady K's,
under the delusion.
And this is a serious
delusion.
Give it to me. That he's funny.
Give it to me straight, Doc.
Tell me one incident
where Lady K
was funny. I'll wait.
Tell me one
joking mate or something.
Have you seen me wearing shorts, John?
Yeah, that's a good one.
Leader.
That he did.
That anyone
is going
to say is funny
there's done
now here's the thing
I have never
been banned
from a comedy club
I haven't
I guess into some humble bragging here
very impressive stuff
anyway so I
I guess John
it got back to John
because he has all the people
Vegas beer sales
and dick and stuff watching the shows
bunch of friends
yeah and that was so funny
but I go can you name John
three friends and Adam was just like all three I was like yep that's it so uh I had mentioned
that John said you know if I had to make up with someone it might be Carl because we live in the
same neighborhood and we're at a bar or something yeah it'd be weird to not like get a beer
together or something and I mentioned I don't want to be friends with John it's not something I'm
interested in at all and John took very much offense to that of course he did yeah he's still
crying about well I don't want to be friends with you I didn't mean it yeah it was a joke you don't
understand jokes so but again he's using the phrase
are the word friends.
I don't want to be friends with you.
I can't remember the last time I would have said that to anyone.
I swear to God,
it must have been in third grade.
This man,
60 years old.
I don't want to be friends with you either,
Lady Kay.
But his reasoning is terrible because you're close by
so he could actually have some contact with someone.
Not because of what you've disagreed on in the past.
Can I tell you the reason why he wants to be my friend?
Well, there's three.
I'm virile.
I'm horny.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
So, Jenna, we get along very famously because of those three factors.
I thought it was access to the pool, your wife, and dropping the lawsuit.
Proximity to 7-Ele 11.
Yeah.
Us of virile, horny, and cool people just stick together.
You guys, don't get it.
Dorks.
He's so sad.
He's so lonely.
I know.
I'm kind of afraid.
Like, I never want to be that.
Like, it's really scary.
Trust me.
I think the same thing.
I'm like, more I be this lonely when I'm 16?
Because that would suck.
I got to start making some friends who are a lot younger than me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stop driving people away.
Right.
You know what?
We shouldn't drive people away.
We should drive people to good times great movies.
Hey, yeah.
Starring my buddy Doug.
Yes.
Yeah, good times great movies.
Wherever we get podcasts, we have a YouTube channel.
Carl, last time I was here, and it wasn't all that long ago, I was really like, guys, we might
be able to get 2,000.
We're well over 2,000.
some subscribers on
YouTube and I could see
I could see that WATP bump
so I appreciate it people go check
it out and you know listen to
the show look at my face more than
you know every time I'm on here
Good time's great movies covering all the great
movies from the 80s. It's right
Doug's fantastic on there
17 Nick Tucker
remember for six months you missed my undercarriage
Dan
talking about the ball wash of that gave it a little
if you're going to ball wash he got to get all
You've got to get the undercarriage.
Oh, God.
Yes.
And the taints.
Let's go.
That's so stupid.
What am I forgetting to do?
Is it voicemail time now?
No.
Oh, there's internet news.
See, it's a good thing I asked you, producer Chris.
Oh, nice.
Let's figure out what's going on in the world of the internet.
If producer Chris doesn't have to pee, then neither do you.
Sit the fuck down.
It's the internet news.
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Joey Mattress.
in. Chris Atril notes, so Joe
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Comequot Diff TV tuning reports.
I've heard Joe Liss bring up Pat Dixon's comedy
more than once. I highly doubt he's
heard of John. Andre Gunner-Hawkson is disappointed.
If this episode is not three hours
of playing the Jacked Up Review show theme song,
I will be disappointed. From Reddit,
round fig morns, sad.
Watching John on Husey. He's trying
so hard to be normal and likable.
Just doesn't work. Too awkward.
Subarticle adds, it's sadder that you admit to
watching Husey. Fit Butterscotch,
stirs shit up with Paulino greater than Bush.
I think Adam's okay, but I wish Vinny was on a little more often.
That is all, purveyor of poppycock is incensed.
You leave our sweet, precious, delightful little cherub Adam.
The hell alone!
Steve's 78 chimes in with, I like Adam better.
And there's a rumor going around that Vinny is fat.
From Dablers Anonymous, we give a heartfelt shout out to SoftSick,
who delivers an entire tomb on Stutjo's mental state.
Dumbing it down for us, we have one Zeta Lego.
It's much easier and quicker to see.
say he's a thin-skinned little bitch who's jealous that Shulie and Carl make more money than him.
Hot by 86-86 chimes in with, or he's just a thin-skinned alcoholic spiraling into dementia.
And Hankster 23 adds, he's a sack of garbage. There, someone had to say it,
Smiley Faze! Duke of Roscoe Boulevard is apprehensive. I'd like to see the objective data before
I weigh in. And from YouTube, Rooney Opines, I'm a Dixon fan now. He almost sounds bored as he
dismantles John, which just makes it meaner and funnier at the same time. Pain killer isn't far off.
laugh that John looks like producer Chris's father.
JAMS reports. John finally
realizes he's the common denominator
in all of his troubles and failures, and
proceeds to declare a total victory.
This is the dumbest man alive. Adam M.
gushes. Washington Generals of the Devilverse
is great. Slane McCool offers
Ah, yes, Opie. It's totally
normal that your eyes don't open until midday.
Long of rock and roll is fact-checking.
Opie was fired over some BS?
You mean filming someone in the bathroom,
which could potentially have been a felony and put him
on the sex offenders register if Roland had
press charges? That's BS? The intelligent counter-spell henchman is pissed. By the way, Ron
the waiter owes me $40 for a new screen protector because every time he looks at the screen,
he busted through my camera with his nose. And Big Moose 99 plays us out with now entering the
John the waiter era. Excellent job. Jenny Jingles and producer Chris. Thank you for putting together
our internet news segment for this week. I have a plug. The ice tops are performing at Johnny's
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Saturday night, 8 p.m.
no cover charge.
We'll be playing a couple of sets.
Come down and see producer Chris and me
and Lucy Tightbox and the rest.
We'll be performing.
And if you're in the western New York area,
it's Johnny's Irish pub on Culver.
Yeah.
Come down and wish us well.
All right.
It's time for the Gary and San Diego
voicemail segment.
It's a bunch of crap.
Swing in a minute.
Rock and roll.
is a narcissist.
You know what?
Stuck Joe is, he's a narcissist.
It has to be, like clinically.
You don't meet too many of those people.
You know, he's not a bad guy.
I know somebody liked that.
He's the ex-boss of my total motherfucker narcissist.
It's crazy, but yeah, it's like Stunton John.
You could tell him the prep for the show, and he would do the total opposite.
That motherfucker just that.
He's vat.
Yeah, yeah. The artwork should be bought back just for him.
I'm stupid, but this motherfucker's retarded, okay?
There's no other word.
Who leave money on the table?
Who does this kind of stuff?
How many other fucking locales do we know that do this shit?
Come on, like Stuck Joe.
It's incredible, but yeah, I think you're going to...
He'll be doing the same thing, dude.
You'll never...
You won't have to change your show.
You know that.
Yeah, come on, structure will never fucking, you won't change.
Even if it means he gets rich and he doesn't look.
Wrap it up, wrap it up.
Do I want him to do that?
What are we doing here?
It's retarded.
Anyways, fuck are you, fucker you, and fuck are you, too.
Way too wide.
But thank you, sir.
We appreciate that.
It's like he saw me tapping by watch.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Two things I want to share with the class, John reminded me of Mr. Burns getting his
clean bill of health also on the verge of dying at any moment in that Simpson's episode
when he was proclaiming that he's the center of the universe and so forth or he's in
perfect picture perfect health like what the fuck like no dude you could die at any second
I'm in the best health ever yeah three students uh is anybody else oddly turned on by the
girls rolling their ours at the ed credits me I am what am
Favorite parts of the show?
I don't know if it's because it's the end, but I'm not aroused, but it's still pretty
fucking cool.
I don't know.
Where's it from?
It's pretty sweet.
Anyways, take care of everybody.
Be well.
Thanks for the entertainment.
Stoner girls, right?
It's a stoner girl.
Yeah.
I thought I was a weird.
I mean, I am, but yeah.
You're into that too, huh?
Yeah, I am.
I didn't know I was, and Cardiff ruined it every time he would roll his.
Well, Doc, I think I did pretty well in my tests.
You may shake my hand, if you like.
Well, under the circumstances, I'd rather not.
Eh?
Mr. Burns, I'm afraid you are the sickest man in the United States.
You have everything.
You mean I have pneumonia?
Yes.
Juvenile diabetes?
Yes.
Hysterical pregnancy?
A little bit, yes.
You also have several diseases that have just been discovered, in you.
I see.
You're sure you just haven't made thousands of mistakes?
No, no, I'm afraid not.
Well, this sounds like bad news.
Well, you'd think so, but...
all of your diseases are in perfect balance.
If you have a moment, I can explain.
Well, here's the door to your body, you see?
And these are oversized novelty germs.
That's influenza, that's bronchitis,
and this cute little cuddled bug is pancreatic cancer.
Here's what happens when they all try to get through the door at once.
Move it, count ahead.
We call it three-studia syndrome.
So what you're saying is, I'm indestructible.
Oh, no, no.
And in fact, even a slight breeze.
skin distracted.
Yeah, that's John.
My favorite bits.
So good.
All right.
Back to the voice spells.
Thank for more cartoons.
This is for you, Chris.
Hey, Carl, after years and years of listening to this ridiculous show and your other
even more ridiculous shows, something finally shocked to me.
Chris's daughter is 34.
How fucking old is Chris?
Jesus.
I'm 47. He looks younger than me.
I'm living like fucking stuttering John over here.
I either need to quit drinking or drink a whole lot in Greenland.
I don't know.
Whoa.
My hair doesn't look bad good either.
Fuck you, Chris.
Tequila's a preservative.
I'm 54.
He's 48.
He was nailing chicks.
He was a young kid.
I got to say these are two callers in a row that I can really relate to.
I was in the car and I'm doing the.
the math in my head. I'm like, how that fuck old is Chris?
All right. Here's another voicemail.
Carl, enough with the fucking begging. No, I'm not going to whackmania three.
No, I'm not participating in the world's largest circle jerk, all right?
And this Saturday night, you better not be fucking late for fag bashing.
Tighten up those boots. Real tight.
All right, all right.
Which night is the circle jerk? I forgot.
All three nights.
Oh.
Doug wasn't invited to the first, too, apparently.
I thought it was only one.
Here's some thoughts on Joe Matarisa's new podcast.
Hey guys, Dorkel's. First time, long time.
Love the show.
So I actually think that the new Matt Arise podcast is actually part of a genre that already exists that hasn't been mine yet.
At least I don't remember it being part of the briefly lived podcast subcategories Wednesday show era of WATP.
but that's the genre of old guys at the bar
that they usually go to anyway, starting a podcast.
I mean, we already know about one example with opiate them.
But one of my local hunts of the name
had these, like, old, fat farmers,
guys who love their tractors podcast
with, like, their local characters who had a podcast at the bar,
and I'm pretty sure it was encouraged by the bartender.
Just another strange form of elder abuse.
Anyways, my 45 seconds is up.
Thank you.
For a while, actually.
That is a thing where guys will, like, know the owner or be the owner.
We should do a podcast from this bar.
I had a buddy of mine.
I don't say who he is.
Who's like, yeah, yeah, I'm starting a podcast.
We're the first show we're going to do it, Murphy's Law.
I was like, well, don't do that.
No.
Get good at podcasting first.
Let's go ahead and do some live shows.
People want to come out and see.
But people don't listen to my advice.
What do I know?
Guys, this one, this is going to go back to an older debate that we've had on the show, but one that lives on, apparently.
I was calling in to talk about something that actually happened a long time ago.
The whole Steely Dan debate, I couldn't make an opinion at the time.
But now I've listened to it, and I remember that producer Chris doesn't like him.
And I just wanted to ask, he has a dent in his head.
Yep.
Because that's some fucking fantastic music.
Okay.
Love you, bye.
You're right, sir.
Steely Dan rules.
I got problems.
Yeah, you should suck it.
I should suck it.
With your steely Dan opinions.
Get out of here with that shit.
All right, one more voice, man.
We'll get out of here.
Savers are playing.
Okay, I wanted to apologize.
I feel really bad.
Progroup for Chris, I don't hate you.
You're my hero.
They say never meet your heroes, though.
That's why I'm not coming to Hakomania.
Sorry to say.
but yeah not going to be there
bye
all right that was the same guy calling back
apologizing to you
you don't have to come to hackamania
because you can stream it
and watch it wherever you want to
hackamania.com promo code
w-tp by the streaming package
watch all the live shows all weekend
watch me sing Steely Dan at karaoke
that will not be happening
can we watch that
there's no karaoke this year at Hackamania
nuts
sorry
All right.
I think we've done it all, right?
Yeah.
Right.
To those girls.
Let's hear those girls.
Come on.
Nobody can.
There's one.
That's not true.
I got to go.
Bye.
I got to go.
I got to go.
I got to go.
I got to go.
Okay.
Bye.
Man, that was a good episode.
That was a good episode.
Enjoyed that.
All right.
Ready to roll the credits?
Yep.
All right, guys.
Bye.
Until next time.
Bye.
Bye.
This is Nate from Flint, Michigan.
And guess what?
This voicemails over.
All right, everybody.
You know, this was a great podcast.
It was very revealing.
Okay, bye.
I'm virile.
I'm horny.
And I'm cool.
Cool.
I'm an asshole.
