Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep712 - Rob Saul Returns, StutJo Returns, Opie & Ron, Whitney Cummings, Bill Burr

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Rob Saul has come back to podcasting and the Dabbleverse. Why? We don’t know. Why was he gone? We’re not sure. Does he explain anything? Not even a little bit. He’s completely changed his life for the better and we couldn’t care less. Cringe of the Week includes Adam’s trip to I Love the 90s featuring Tone Loc, Vanilla Ice, and Vanilli. Mario Bosco is gross and possibly slow. Then Caron Feldman, Stuttering John’s former manager, joins the show with some bombshells about John’s behavior on the set of One, Two, Many that includes hookers and blow. Brendan Schaub smoked a cigar backwards on Joe Rogan. Bill Burr finally lets his real feelings out about how difficult it is to live with Nia. Whitney Cummings does an advice show full of terrible advice and even worse jokes. Ron Berman once again triggers Opie with a question about Anthony that abruptly ends the show. Stuttering John broke his wrist and refuses to tell us what really happened, allowing our imaginations to run wild. Megan and Annie join us for a round of “Is It Gay?” and a sports themed edition of “Opie or Burr.” We finish up with your comments and voicemails.  Watch this episode here: https://youtube.com/live/vLt_wFNDc7M  Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Come to Hackamania! April 10-12 in Las Vegas, use promo code WATP for 10% off – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got reviews and voicemails. But first, Rob Sal is back and refuses to explain why he was gone. It's a mystery for some reason. But Adam, who's the Rob Saul whisperer, has been checking in on him. And we might want to start with Rob's return a couple months ago. Yeah. We played it on this show. I might have been a cringe of the week or something.

I think it made the rounds throughout the dabble, various people in enjoyed this quite a bit. This is what happened when Rob thought he was making his triumphant return just two months prior to now. And I already see like I got so the TV goes down

it unplugs the audio. He's trying to juggle the dog at his lap everything is messed up. We have complete silence at this point. That's when he's like I should leave again and lose more.

Yeah, he looks very different here. That's a good point. He looks so different now that he's back. He went on Stuttering John Show. We'll talk about that in a later segment. I do love that noise. He lets out right before the TV goes. Yeah.

Not again. It's like the cartoon character who keeps running it. He gets off the cliff and he looks out. It's like, oh, shit! His feet are still going. This is one of the greatest clips. Thanks for Rob for coming. back just when he had an excuse to play this again.

Makes it worth it. Right there. So anyway, he comes back after this all happened. And immediately, you're going to be shocked to hear this. Starts off with tech issues, which is shocking, I know. You wouldn't think about Rob Saul being unprofessional. But it does happen. But thankfully, on top of the tech issues, he was using the wrong microphone.

He also has chuck full of excuse. which is a great way to start any program or return. Yeah, there we go. I don't have anything to give an intro because I let my stream yard expire. So I'm waiting for a new, um, a new card in the mail because I had to replace my debit card to sign up for the paid stream yard. Here, I'll play a little intro here. Yep, he's, he's hearing it.

He's hearing his headphones. Oh, look at how happy he is, too. It's a professional radio guy. I got momentum going. Yeah, it's Rob's on the radio, everybody. So he doesn't realize that that's not happening for him. And, yeah, he couldn't buy Stream Yard because he didn't have his debit card or something like that?

Oof. Yeah, and that's all he has is that one debit card that he lost and he's waiting to be replaced. So no purchases until then. Wow, that's a parallel with Stuttering John Melendez right there. Really? A couple credit cards you could choose from? I could see Stancho making fun of them for that.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Why don't you just borrow Vince Deppercard? Won't your mom pay for it? Fucking idiot. You thin fuck! He's lost a lot of weight. We'll get into that.

But this is great. He's dancing. He's having a good time. I'll try sunglasses. Hold on. Yeah. So he still thinks music is playing. And now he's feeling it.

Look at how cool I have guys. Rock it out to my music. Got my glasses on. Hey now. Hits the post. Hit the post. Perfect. I assume.

Right. There's no way of knowing, but he seemed confident about it. He's shouting over it because it's so loud. Yeah, he's taking it down now. All right. All right. So then someone points out, he's looking at the chat or something. Someone's just like, that we can't hear anything that's going on there.

Rob, finally figures it out. Am I on the right microphone now? Yep. This is, this is disastrous. It's not great. I see. the shades came off. No one will notice.

Just don't try any attention to it. All right. Well, the important thing is that you get back on track and do what you were planning on doing all along. And this is seamless. Test, test, test. Can you guys hear this now? And now, live from the night view...

Yeah, now we got to do the intro. The Rob Saul show. Please welcome South Jersey's favorite single dad and radio's most bitter to Morsay. Rob Sol. You guys can hear that. now, right? Unfortunately, yes. There we go.

Now me dancing before is going to look ridiculous. This makes sense. What was the AI prompt? The most bland morning music possible for a radio show? Yeah. But played by Jeff Lynn via traveling Wilburys. Yeah. Good

catch. It's so good when you're going. All right. So he's back. He's dancing. He's having fun. He's been gone. Some people didn't notice. but he's been gone. He wants to tell us what's been going on.

He's been in Florida. Rob has been in Florida. We're going to find that out. He talks to John about this later on. He talks about it on the show. He's having fun in Florida. By the way, I was down there taking care. A little TCB, I call.

Taking care of fucking business, if you know what I mean. So I was down there and I got to tell you, I met some of the most fantastic fucking people I've ever met my life. It's weird. You know me, guys. I hate everybody. And they hate you back. Expecting.

Fully prepared to hate everybody. But I clicked with a group right away. And I just got to send them love because I miss them now that I'm not in Florida anymore. Okay. I'm guessing it was a local chapter of dog fuckers. They don't call themselves dog fuckers. Okay. All right.

This little two on the nose, you know. There's a national association of dog fuckers. So, yeah, he's like calling out his new friends. He's very excited about it. They're probably all watching. I want to say hello to Alex, Emily, Tila, Sue, Marco, Andres. Am I missing anybody? No, but hello.

I think some of them are watching. Yes. There we go. All right. So there you go. We're not watching. There you go. Hi, guys.

I miss you guys very much. I fucking love you. I love these people. He's a run. He's a disaster. This is a man in his 40s, I assume, may be older than that, who just made friends for the first time. He's like, guys, I guess how many friends I have? Let's go to the Apple Newton here and check it out.

Yeah, very cool. How did he meet a group of people? Wow. I have theories on that. I bet you do, too, Adam. I might have one or two. Okay. Well, he let something slip in a little while.

Now, this is what we're seeing here. And spoiler. Rob is tan. He's lost 25 pounds, and he's no longer drinking or doing drugs. And he was in Florida for... I mean, by explaining what's going on here, he's in four different months. Yeah. And he's improved his life in multiple ways.

Starting to put it together. Yeah, it's an amazing spring break. The best spring break up. Oh, I was going to say Scientology. It's possible. All right. Let's keep this role. We keep the fun rolling here.

Yeah, we did go out. to the beach. And you know who I would always swim with? This woman right here always am. Miss you, Rob. I miss you more, Emily, and you know, my family. My new family, Noga. You think maybe he's coming off a little desperate here,

Adam? No, no. I think they're all exactly at the same level of neediness as him. I think they're up. That is so needy right there. I miss you more than you miss me. Uh-uh. Uh-huh. Uh-uh. Cringe of the week. I noticed the filters cranked out in just his shirt.

Is there something naughty there? I mean, you don't get Florida lifestyle, Chris. I live in Florida, so I get the shirt. You don't understand it. All right. But I'll explain it to you after the show. I mean, I met you guys in, I was in Boston for the first time, and we had a great weekend.

We had a blast. If I was like, Jenny, you're my family now. Yeah. It would be like, a couple days afterwards, I was like, I love you. I love you. What a great gig. Such a good gig.

All right, buddy. A little off if that happened. All right. So your clip number nine here. And do you want to set this up at all? Well, Rob went to Florida and he seemingly did no research on anything there. Very much the way like somebody on a K1 visa looking to marry someone goes to another country and does no research on the country or the laws or what you need to do.

to get married. He hadn't thought about anything going on in Florida. And by the way, you can't watch porn in Florida. Did you know that? Like, I went to put on some pornography to take care of myself. And sorry, I don't mean to be disgusting. But yeah, it's like, I guess in Florida, like in Jersey, you can't do it. So I, you know what I did? I ended up looking at yourself in the mirror, because that's what I do. Interesting. We got a cliffhanger here, Adam. What do you think it was?

I can give you four choices. All right, yeah. Let's get some multiple choice in here because I'm at a loss. He wanted to jerk off, couldn't watch porn because of the laws in Florida about porn sites. So what do they do? I'll give you some choices. One, Sears catalog. Two photos from Mother's Day past.

Ooh. Yes. Finally, a rerun of Caesar Maloney. on. Lastly, he didn't do it. He didn't masturbate instead. He read a book or he learned to trade or went out another podcast or, you know, did some volunteer work.

What do you think? Probably went and cleaned up some highways, I would imagine. Grab some garbage off highways. What do you think, producer Chris? I'm with you, man. Okay. That would turn me off completely. All right.

Let's find out. You know what I did? I ended up getting one of theirs like, um, uh, voigt. Something. I downloaded it on my phone where I paid a monthly subscription. I just canceled it when I got back to Jersey. Because, you know,

I, I, yeah. VPN, VoIP is voiceover IP. Yep. I got a VoIP thing. It's so stupid.

So he had a trick the internet to thinking he was not in Florida in order to watch porn. No, listen. I need to spend money on it. I don't understand. I've never said this before, but I have a house in Florida. I never had a hard time watching porn when I was there.

Yeah, me neither. Am I going to jail? I don't know what these people are fucking talking about. It's like they can't watch porn in Florida. Also, I'm pretty sure, like porn hub or something requires that you show your ID, like it to upload your ID or something. Like, Rob's 18. Do you have to show your debit card?

That's the problem right there. Do you always that he said in the story he was like, you know, I went to watch some pornography. to pleasure myself. Why would he say that? Yeah. You don't have to say that. What are the other reasons you're looking at pornography? Yeah, we got it.

Like Pete Towns. Yeah, I was going to say. All right. Well, yeah, so Rob's new family is watching this, obviously. And he's being really gross. I regretts having to say that. Yes. I love that the regulars already know what porn.

Rob Saul prefers. Jeez. Oh, boy. I hope my family in Florida isn't watching anymore. I don't want them to think less of me. Beastiality. Ding, ding. Okay, is that the answer?

He's like, ah, you guys, you know we're too well. Well, that's the polite way to say dog fucking. Right. Yes. Don't tell my new friends. Sounds so fancy when you put it like that. About that. Oh, he was calling his new friends family.

Yeah. Oh, they're moving quick. Yikes. They're moving a little too quick, in my opinion. You're going to see this is a battle going on with him, trying to please these new people, which represents who he wants to be, the old who he was,

because for him, there's a very clear before and after. Anything he did before, you can't mention to him because he was drunk and he was out of, shape and he was out of his mind. Now he is sober, he is healthy, he is fine. So this is the only time that counts. He's going to lose this battle. He loses it by the end of this episode. Spoiler, Jesus. Trying to get a slow build going here, Adam. On Valentine's Day, I was at the beach. Yeah, in Jersey, I've never been on a February 14th on the beach. Yeah, I don't know, Deb. I don't know why I'm saying this.

You should keep a VPN. Yeah, that's what it is, a VPN. Yeah, they're helpful for different reasons. You learned something. Wow. How fun for you. You get to be at a beach on February 14th. No one's ever done that before.

Very cool. Imagine going to a place that's warm in the wintertime. Alone. Well, he made new friends very quickly, too. You assume they'd all be assholes. But they were really cool. Didn't sound like they were with him on Valentine's Day. Well, I don't know if that's true or not, but this is what I do know.

I know that if you request things, some of the old staples from Rob, he can't say no. He is looking to please, like you were saying before, Adam, Rob has a persona that we all know from the Dabbleverse when he was John's co-host for a little while there and then trying to do his own thing, going after Shulie and my wife and stuff. And so if you request it, it's all required. last weekend. Can you just say Shulie new aggressively? Why? Oh, for a clip. Yeah. Shulie new. All right. We're back, baby. All right. Clip, clip, clip, clip, clippers. Who were the clippers around town? Doom still in the game? She is. Stalin 19? Yes. Yeah. That's correct. Definitely. but yeah now that people know they can just request things from them

they're just like oh shit we can just say dance monkey and he'll dance all right cool he sounds like a junkie who just got out of prison he's like yeah who's who's clipping now please clip me please somebody clip me yeah that's funny who's holding who's holding my shuli uh i keep looking at this like it's the camera because that's where i see myself with the cameras here baby it was you there you go one laugh if he didn't do the laugh I'd be pissed well done Rob

please knock your TV over again yeah that's the hit sweet one right that's the best bid he's ever done you should get updated on Shulie's show I don't know there's a lot of maybe it was used going on but I can be wrong all right so Tommy Jordan Tojo is hanging out in the chat

hanging out with Rob he's everywhere He's like slash. There's a lot of Tommy Jordan's. There's just one. So one of the Tommy Jordan helpers is there. And he's, Rob's got questions for Tommy. A tweet that he sent out that said,

never go fool Rob Saul. What's that mean? No. Like, does Rob Saul like gay or something? Don't go fool gay. I have no idea with that. That could mean many, many, many things. Yeah.

Drug addict. Like, whatever. Don't go full Rob Saul with anything. Marriage. Oh, it's retarded. Everybody knows you never go full retard. It's from a movie, a very popular movie. Never go full Rob's up.

What does that mean? It means you're retarded. And the fact that you don't know that proves it. No, no, no. Let me list my negative traits first and you pick one. He immediately said gay. What does that mean? Dogfucker, small dick.

What are we talking about here? It's about the failed marriage, isn't it? I knew it. Like when your cousin steals your wife from you? Is that out of this? What's going on? That was a long time ago. Does it have to do in the bath?

I took him with my brother. All right. So, let's get in some bragging. He's having a good go at it in Florida. I went into Florida at 190 pounds. I am now at 165. Give it up for your boy. Rob fucking saw.

You look like Paul. Sorvino all of a sudden. So apparently Rob is now our boy. Rob saw. He's very proud of himself for losing some weight and props to him. I'm proud of him as well. Going to Florida and losing weight. Not an easy thing to do, you know?

Yeah, I know. Nice restaurants. I get the grill out bag. A lot of fun things to do in Florida. Not a lot of them involve exercise, but that's just me. Things are different, I guess. So this one, this one's for you, Chris, that Adam pulled. And do you have any set up to this?

I just think it's a perfect, perfect short film to represent the Dabloverson, Rob Saul. Go! Yeah. Who's going to tell me what? Good stuff, Rob. What a show. I know that when we go. go away at a certain point.

And then we make our big triumphant return. I'm going to show up wildly unprepared. Just be like, I just figured I'd wing it. What's going out of the chat? I don't know what are you guys talking about? I'm a retard? Huh? You know?

If you're going to like launch a new show, all these idiots do the same thing. And we'll get into Grillo too. I don't have clips, but what Grillo is doing now getting on Supertip. So I was watching Patrick Melton talk about this yesterday. And so Grillo finally got a supertip set up. It took like an army of people to help them get this thing set up. I bet. Finding it gets it set up.

And then he's like, all right, I got super tip now. Like, where's my money? Give me, give me, give me. Yeah. It's like, now money starts rolling in. Like all these fucking idiots don't put any time or effort into a show. They just go online. They're like, and now the money starts rolling in.

Chaching, chich, I call this episode. They think as long as they let us know that they know they're not trying, somehow it lets them off the hook. Right. Rob does this. He lets us know he only, he's only doing this to prove people. people wrong that hate him and to say hello to his friends in Florida he misses. That's it. So it's a completely selfish reason.

It's not for us. He also just like doesn't give a fuck. He just gets up and leaves during his stream. I sped this one up for us so that we can get through it a little quicker. Oh boy. All right, guys, I got to pee. I won't end yet because I know you guys are still chatting and stuff. I'm going to come back.

Just let me hit the head. head. All right. He's like Rick Moranis at that party at Ghostbusters. He thinks like people are in the chat. I've got to like run around and how you doing? That's funny. ERP, just going to let these dogs out.

I'm just going to have the dogs. Okay. Go on the night. It's fine. Take time. We're having fun over here. We've got any board games. Great.

I'm not doing drugs. Right. Is he expecting a pile of money when he gets back? I have returned. That's right. I have returned to Studio de Saul. Yay. Yeah.

Said no one. Oh, good. He doesn't seem as sober as he did when he started. Maybe he's just tired. He's probably just tuckered from walking out of those dogs. Yeah. It's been a long show. Sometimes the dogs need a little encouragement to get up from where they're sitting.

you got to rub them in certain places to get them excited about going out doing that What about you? Takes a lot out of them. Red rocket, red rocket. There it is. What is Rob going to be back again?

You know, is he doing a daily show? Is it weekly? What's going on? It may even be tomorrow night. Oh. Why the hell not? Well, you know,

today I did come with zero content. I remember in Florida, I told him I'm going to stream, give you guys, shout out tonight. And they go, well, what's the topic? And I said, listen, there is no topic tonight. I'm free balling it.

I just want to say hello. Show everybody how fucking handsome I am. And talk to people. What a lazy asshole. At this point, I'm going to mention that Rob emailed me a couple days ago and offered to come on WATP. You did? Oh, yeah. Oh, I can't wait to have Rob Saul on this show.

Can you make sure you prep nothing and bring no energy and say nothing? That's fucking awesome. That's just what we want on WATP. Good stuff, Rob. You're killing it. Did we mischaracterize anything that needs to be addressed? Is there a opinion we had that he can explain to us? Like, there's not really anything.

I should go back and look at the email. I don't know what the pitch was. I'm not sure. I'm back and come on. I'm trying to impress these cool kids in Florida. Can you please put me on the shoe? That must be one of this. Because he actually just said he was like, I told them in advance.

I planned ahead that I wasn't going to have anything planned for this show. I told them a week ago. I got nothing. Yeah. And it's funny that they're the ones who are just like, cool, what's the topic? Oh, you're doing a show? Cool. What do you talk about on your show?

You guys. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I miss you guys. What happened to the green screen? Remember, Rob used to have that green screen behind him with a shitty AI where there were like multiple guitar necks against the wall that were to test to guitar. The chandelier and all that stuff. Amps.

Yeah, yeah. What happened to the green screen? One day, I took mushrooms and I got all crazy. And like the green screen was like ripped or torn and I like throw it outside. But I was on a really like wicked mushroom trip and I got rid of the green screen. So just use this for now. Am I taking mushrooms wrong? I was just going to say, what's the most vital?

Violet you ever got on mushrooms. I can't even imagine. You threw a can in the garbage. If anything, if anything, I'd be like, oh, good, I have a project. I can take off my green screen now. You know, you're looking for shit to do. Kind of, yeah. Yeah.

It's a wild thing to be, like, be outraged myself. Like, fuck all these shit. Guys, we don't, we don't, we judge. We just thank him for sharing. If anybody else in the room is something they'd like to share, they're welcome to. You're right. This is against all the rules of N.A. My apologies.

Rob's not used to this. He's like, I'd be criticized for what I did. I was high? This is, I haven't heard this in a while. He's specifically paranoid about you criticizing him for this exact thing. Oh, boy. Here comes Lady Kay. He's on drug.

Well, now, I mean, I, yeah, I'm not on any drugs or anything, you know, currently. But yeah, I did. That was a, man, that was a fucking crazy. That's the only time I ever, you know. Got, uh, uh, turn it off there. What? Mushrooms. Uh, well, that's, that.

That was really weird. He pulled up the thing saying, oh, here comes Lady Kay, robs out drugs. He pulled that off immediately. And then didn't know, well, that's all your time.

What are you talking about? He looked like Clinton in that deposition where he saw the picture and had a memory he wasn't supposed to have. It's like, that was cool. Oh. Rob,

you know, one thing I was really proud of with Rob this week because I was watching him, on this, I was watching him on John's show. And I went, okay, he's no longer drinking, which is great. You know, he's lost all this weight, which is awesome. And he doesn't have dogs in his lap. That's fucking great right there.

Like, yeah, Rob, stop dittling dogs during the show because then rumors get started. Right. So it's really great that he finally... And if you're sober, you've got to have something to look forward to at the end of the day. Yeah. That's a good point, too. Milk it. Yeah, that's a really good point.

So thank God I get the dogs off of his fucking lap. All right. Oh, you relapsed. There he is, growling and grumpy as usual. All right. Okay. Geez. All right.

But what are you doing? All right. I guess he doesn't want to get down. Jeez. It's some co-host. The dog was so clearly trying to get away from him the entire time. The more it growls, the more he sticks his head into it and kisses it. The more it growls, the more he pushes it into him.

it's like can't you hear what the animals trying to communicate at all So if I'm not mistaken These are not his dogs They're as neighbors dogs They're almost always his neighbor's dogs Always the neighbor's dogs Do you think the neighbor's dogs are just like

Who the fuck are you? This guy's been God No means no For moms right They're like we found a new neighbor to hang out with What is it with Rob and John That they need your animals They can't have their own

They've got to have yours It's almost like they They don't have the responsibility at take to have their own. Ah, there is. But it's like a social cue. When somebody offers to babysit your kids, you're like, oh, thanks. If they're, like, really insistent about it, you're like, no.

I'll just take them camping for the weekend. Oh. No, you will not. Tommy Jordan comes back to help out, which is always good. Tommy, uh, I just got back from a two-month hide. And I had everything over here. So he says, I may have OCD, but if you stick that mic arm on the other side of your desk, it won't block the TV.

There's a TV screen that. you can totally see multiple arms of this mic stand blocking. In lieu of a green screen. We have the TVs. Right. So Tommy Jordan's going like, hey, man, does you know? But on the other side, but it's on the other side of me. So I switched.

Boom, knocks the sound up. Yep. There we go. Yeah. Jesus Christ, he's a wreck. Yeah. He's kicking out of the fucking way out.

And he's just thanking Tommy. Thanks so much for helping Tom. Thanks. All right, so I just got to say I'm supportive of anyone cleaning up, but Rob, you got to do drugs again, man. No, no, no, no, that's not the official stance from where these podcasts. YouTube terms of service. Get sober, stay sober. We support you in your journey.

But yeah, seriously, he was way more fun on drugs. Well, both of them do no show prep. Right. That's true. I'm just saying if you're going to be a wreck, he might as well be high. Yeah. Look at me. If you're going to be anti-Semitic.

That's what I was going to say. You might have to say. Yeah, right. All right. So, Grillo was out of the show. Grillo returns to his show. This was last night?

No, this was two nights ago. Yeah, Monday night. He came back. Then he immediately came back again, but had a lot less energy than he did the first time. Oh, that's not good.

Do you guys want Steve Grillo on tonight? I wasn't going to stay on that long, to be honest. I was just popping in because everybody thought, it was going to, I was going to be a one-off again, you know. This is the proving us wrong show? The excitement seems to have died down about me being back.

Which is why I'm sad. This is so funny. Guys, like, and Rob claims to be a radio guy and know how to broadcast and something like that. He's terrible broadcasting. But they thinks that if he comes back one time, the audience is just going to build and build and build. Like, if you thought day one was exciting, day two is going to be amazing. It's like, no, you have to be consistent. Yeah.

It's put a good quality show at a consistent time and place unless you're fucking melting. But you know what I mean? We saw your day one. Right. Right. Don't half ass it. He had the biggest audience he's going to have on day one. I brought nothing.

Fucking idiots. Why would you do that? He's also very, very sensitive. And the reason the joke Chris made is okay, no matter how horrific it sounds, is because anyone in Rob's life that knew him. And he was like, I just got sober. I think the next day I'm going to start my show again, they would say that's a terrible idea. You should not go right back into this thing because he was like, high energy the first night. Now he's done.

He's down. He's depressed. And it's not going to get better from here. So this was all a bad idea. Yeah, especially bringing Grillo out of the show. News, you just spoke with John. And he just, no, he texted me. I didn't know he wasn't on.

And Nassumia was like, what happened with John? I said, I don't know. So let me reach out to him. And I just said, John, what up? I guess people wonder where you are. And he goes, Steve, I got something big going on. I quit. I'm out.

All right. So that's the big news that happened on Monday night. John was off Sunday. He didn't stream on Monday. And then we get the news from Grillo saying John is done with the dabble verse. He was supposed to be podcastings of the 31st. We decided, nope, fuck this. I don't need this shit.

And that's where the news was broke on Rob Sol's show. Big deal. For Rob, nice get. Yeah, and he's got something big going on. Right. This is exciting. And I'm sure John wouldn't, like, say an untruth to someone. Fuck with people.

So, Grillo, who's known John longer than all of us, still falls for this shit. He's an idiot. Grillo really is stupid. He's next level stupid. And he's fighting with Carmic X. These two morons. It's brilliant.

It really is. Because people are feeding karma. shit the gril's out about him, and Kermick's going off on Grillo and you don't know what to do about it. Shaded that, and then apparently someone told him I called him an ingenuous fairy, which is words that would never come out of my

mouth in consecutive sentence. And apparently went off on me for an hour today, which I'm not going to be... This is my only response. I'm just giving me more clip time, pal. Yeah, what way? You called them an ingenuous fairy? No, I didn't call him anything.

I'm actually quiet. He was on my list of people to thank when I started my show today. These two idiots can't communicate. This would be like if Keanu was talking to Keanu. Like, no one's paying attention to anything. He's like, yeah, so Karmik's fighting with the things I said this thing. Wait, who's fighting? Wait, who's not?

Why he did the thing? He's like, yeah, I know, right? Isn't that crazy? Like, no one's paying attention. No one gives a shit. What is it in genuous fairy? What is it in Genuous Ferry? What does that mean?

I don't know. But if you get that card in Magic the Gathering, it's pretty good. Get that in your deck. Having a genuine fairy. So what was Rob doing in Florida? Because he's not telling us. We just know that he's improved his life. And he's looking great, as everyone's been pointing out in our chat this whole time.

And he lets a word slip in this next clip that I think is a clue to what was going on. I had a, my counselor tried to put me on, um, uh, a man. a medicine to help me sleep that slows down your metabolism and makes you fat. And I said, no, it makes you fat. I'm trying to lose weight. And he says to me,

just do ozempic and balance it out. I am not taking a fucking tranquilizer to go to sleep and get fat and then jamming an ozempic needle in me. Listen, I did it the hard way, folks. I did it the right way. I fucking was in that gym every day,

swimming laps in the pool every day, counting fucking calories with calis. calorie AI on my phone, intermittent fasting. Yes. This slow was fasting. Impressive. His counselor was trying to get him to take some medicine that was slow as metabolism. Hmm.

Is it a guidance counselor? Yeah, or maybe like a summer camp or something like that, but it's, it wouldn't be summer camp. Well, if it's sober, he might have a sponsor and you might not want to use that term. But your sponsor? prescribe ozimping for you or tranquilizers? That's a counselor. Dealer or whatever. Keep her aware.

So Rob won't answer the question. In fact, when he was on with John Mulan does, John's just asking him like, where did you go? What are you doing? Why are you back? He's just like, I don't know. That's where I live. I'm in New Jersey.

What do you want? You know, just like, just answer the fucking question. He won't answer the question, which is, you know, annoying. I'm like, what's the point if you don't want to talk about it? But it sounds like he was in some type of rehab or something to get his Weight loss thing, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, very possible.

Some kind of fat camp or something. And so, actually, that's interesting. You go to fat camp. I never thought about this before. There's all these chicks who are fours, you know? And you're like, at the end of this, in a few months, they're going to be sixes and sevens. So if I, like, get in now with them, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you've got to pick out the ones that are going to be hot.

You're like, that one if she loses 30, my person. be decent. You know what I mean? No, I don't. Just a thought. You know, Carl, in Breaking Bad, when he goes to the Narcotics Anonymous meeting to sell them meth. That's not a high point for the character.

That's not like his best moment. This is probably selling chocolate to the fatties. I didn't say it was a good person. Why are you guys thinking I'm a good person? I never claimed that once. Fair enough. So this is one last clip out here. This is when Rob went on John's

and I believe he's simulcasting this, right? It's very confusing. happening. I really don't know. It's a lot of streaming. I think that's my can in this environment. The only problem, Rob, is like in this environment, like you said, just like when I go live, I don't want

the devilverse, but they come to you and they want to just fucking trash you. And that's what this whole devil verse is about. Like, they can't handle anyone being happy and trying to do something. Yeah. Yep.

That's the appeal to me. I think that's a good assessment of what the dabblerverse is. You see people doing stuff and being happy? And when I think of the dabblerverse, I think of happy people. And I just got to get in there. Yeah, it's ruined their parade. Because they're trying, you know? Right.

I have more of that clip when we get to the Southern John segment because I have a lot of thoughts about John complain about the dabbler verse and Rob Saul complaining about the dabbler's he's fucking retards. Never go full of Rob Saul. That's what I say. It's good advice. It is good advice. All right. Adam, thanks for watching so much, Rob, and sharing that. Did you chat him at all?

Did you try to get him wound up at all? Oh, I just said something nice at the beginning. I told him he looked great, and he seemed like he was ready to turn over a new leaf. This was like the first couple minutes of the first episode. I said, looking good. He's like, if this is Adam, said really nice things and then was doing shooley impressions about 20 minutes later. Great. Well, we tried.

All right. It is time for our... Gringe of the week. This is an assignment that I never assigned, but Adam takes it very seriously. He is looking everywhere he can for what is the cringe of the week. We have a number of competitors coming in today for cringe of the week. I found some good stuff at the I Love the 90s music festival in Irvine, California. You went to that for research purposes, correct?

Yes, it was a tax write off. Okay, good. I needed one more right before tax time here. And I just want you to take in the scene of this first clip. All right. This is, well, I don't have to explain what this is. You'll know. That's a tonal of right there.

Vanilla Ice. Performing his classic from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. There's Ouse on my face, I think it's called. Something like that. Yeah. Friend of the show, front of the benefits of the show, Lucy Tightbox. What does he go see this movie in the theaters recently? They're still showing this movie in theaters for some reason.

This Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with the Go Ninja Go Ninja Go song from Vanilla Ice. And Adam, just one piece of advice for you, my friend. Hit me. When you're filming, especially if you're going to use it on a podcast like WATP, you want to turn your phone this way, you know? I see. Get that aspect ratio to be 16 by 9. That is great advice.

This was actually not my intent when I went to this show. Okay, I was going to say, because I'm sure you film, you know, homemade porn. And you could go either way with that, depending on how you want to watch it back. But with this, you really want to go 16 by 9. I just do whatever the client request. It's how they want it. Very good point. Now, if you stick with Vanilla Ice here for a second, when he plays his hit song Ice Ice Baby,

he plays a clip from the Adam Sandler movie he's in on a loop. So you watch it like six, seven, eight times. It's great. That's hilarious. So it's like just because there's Adam Sandler for a minute. So it's like, wow. That was a big deal. Then it comes back.

again and then again and you get real sick of it and you're like why is he playing ice ice baby 15 minutes into his set and then you realize that the music actually sounds a lot like the intro to john's show damn okay somehow vanilla ice is cool with us doing this but this is too much for john wow we'll find out i haven't been struck yet but we'll see see what happens this next clip is actually what made me realize i have to share this with you guys this is Vanilli from Millie Vanilli The one who's still alive, yep The one who's still alive, thank God

And doing a cover song you know But I don't want to reveal which one See if you can catch this Because he came out and the audience was so excited And then so disappointed Immediately in everything he had to offer But he's talking Wow

She's doing an excellent rose impression at the end there Yeah So he didn't sing Girl you know it's true He did He did, okay It's not It's

They're letting him sing That's fun I swear to the karaoke at Chrissy Baker's Content Hotel was way better than what I was just watched. Chrissy Salem is better than this. Now you've got too fine. I'm sorry.

When he does the milly-vinilly dances that he used to do with the other guy by himself, it's really sad and lonely. And you learn he wasn't the dancer in the group or the looker or the singer or the songwriter. He is the waiver. It was wild the goodwill that he completely just, you know, did nothing with.

Yeah, what a horrible song choice. So did you have fun of this concert? It looks like you were having a blast there, Adam. Yeah, young MC opened. He was great. That's cool. That was cool. Everything else was a deep disappointment.

Tone Loke, who's up there a lot, he's fun. They have drummers now. They play with tracks and a live drummer. They all shared a kit. Was Cardiff having fun there? Did not see him, and he was the reason I went. Yeah, I thought you'd probably meet up with Cardiff at the, you'll remember the 90s convention. It was the whole plan.

I wanted to get some. merch, get them to sign it, get my picture taken. Right. No potato. Dude, it's hard to find the potato these days. Doesn't do anything now. Sucks. But if the I Love the 90s tour comes your way, each act plays for 20 minutes, there's different acts in every city, you get to drink

in between and then run back, they just play the hits and great covers like that. That maniac was crazy. Everyone went, oh. You're not selling. Yeah. You're not selling me on this one. I had a blast. All right.

Mario Bosco I love that Adam is obsessed with Mario's thing where he goes to restaurants and gets free food for no reason mispronounces things Also he's gross

Yeah I don't need to see Muckbang from Mario Bosco Got one of these gyros You mean a porkirot? I got the best Porkyto in town Yeah? Yeah Oh wow let's try it

Can I get a pork gyro? Poor Gitter coming up. It's all over his face. His mouth's still full. That's horrifying. Yeah, what's he doing? He's like single-handedly convincing everyone to not go to whatever restaurant he's advertising. I never realized.

I never looked closely at Bosco, and I didn't realize what a stuttering John he was, where he's just so bad at everything he does, but nobody will say anything. Right. Because, you know, so he just kind of gets away with it and thinks he's like a scholar and a chef and he's none of those things. I love this comment. Yes. I've been trying to place what he looks like. Yep, that's it right there.

I was thinking of Ellen DeGeneres. Yes. Not quite. You called this clip Mario is a slow. It's a slow. It's a slow. Telalingo. Bye, Mario.

Good morning. Graf. Jose. Goodjourno. Fagre. Buenos days. Good days. Buenos days.

Good morning. Good morgan. Good market. Morgin. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good and morning.

No, Morgene. No, Morgene. No, Morgine. Good Morgine. Morgin. Morgin. Good Morg. Deutsche.

Deutsch, Duts, German. No, good morning. Good morning. But this is so chemoneso, Danish or Denex. Good and Morgan. Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well, Japanese. Go, my, my, Mario.

Hi, boy. Hi, yo. Hi, yo. How you? How you? Hi, yo. Hi, boy. Hi, put.

Go, ma, ma, ma, good. Oh, yahoy. Oh, hao. Oh, hi. Oh, ha, you. Oh, ha, you. Oh, hey, wait. Oh, wait.

Oh, hi. Oh, how you? Ahu. Oh, you. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Good morning. Oh, ha. Ahu.

Oh, aye. Oh, aye. Oh. Oh, you. Oh, you. Oh, you. No, do my problem. Oh, hi, you.

Holy shit. This growing up a Italian thing is terrible. Are we picking on a little kid, Adam? Is that what's going on right now? It feels like that. It does feel like that. It does feel like that. It feels like people think that Mario Bosco is 14 years old.

He's acting like it now. He's just not good at anything. He tries and everyone has to put up with it. And I can't imagine anyone wanting to eat at that restaurant after seeing that. No. It looks terrible. In communities across Canada, hourly Amazon employees earn an average of over 24, dollars and 50 cents an hour.

Employees also have the opportunity to grow their skills and their paycheck by enrolling in free skills training programs for in-demand fields like software development and information technology. Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. All right. I teased this earlier, very exciting right now. We have over 1,300 people watching and you tune in at the right time because I'll tell you, Ben Ratner, former producer of the Anthony Kumia show, reached out to this person who was

Cedering John's manager. I'll let her explain more. But Ben reached out and then he connected the two of us together. So I just got connected with Karen Feldman, who's coming on the show. And Karen has some John's stories that I've never been told before. I'm very excited. Welcome Karen Feldman to the show. Hi, Karen.

Hi. Hey. Good to see you. You guys are funny. We're having a good time over here. It's a fun, fun romp on WATP. So, Karen, tell us a little bit about the background, you managing John and what your role was with him.

Okay, so he came to me in 2007 for representation, telling me he had a project, and I needed to help him secure the funding. And I would be a producer on it. I got hired as casting and I would help hire the rest of the people, like the line producer who quit after a couple of days or a couple of weeks, and he didn't want to hire anyone else, so I was doing her job. I was working at my office all day and on set all night.

And what I, you know, I go into these parties. partnerships as a manager, expecting to be treated with respect and not get burned and, you know, have loyalty and honesty. And what I got from John Melendez was the total opposite. And what I saw on that set, to this day, still haunts me. Okay, I want to get into that. So we're talking about one too many, a movie that John made in 2007, put it out in 2008, and he was on the Tonight Show at this time. So you would think that, hey, this is a guy.

This guy's going to have connections. He knows people. He's a mover and a shaker in Hollywood. This is going to be a good client for me. And he didn't. I mean, he had gotten fired from the Tonight Show. When he came to you, he had been fired? Yeah.

And how did he find you? Through mutual people that I had known in Hollywood that were people that wanted me to represent them that had nothing to offer me, people that wanted help with their projects but had no funding and no way of getting funding. And their projects weren't even written. And when he came to you, it was to represent him. As a manager, so he could be an actor and to do this film? And to do this film. And you took on both roles.

Right. And, you know, I thought since he's a comedian, he would be able to be easier to sell as a, you know, when you're representing clients. He's got some big credits. It'll be easier to get him in the room. Yeah. Right. But it wasn't. Nobody wanted to deal with him.

because they had heard stories about him. And the stories that they heard, I hadn't heard because I like to not listen to the gossip if I don't have to. And I'd like to go into something with a clean slate. So when you would pitch him, you'd say, I got this guy tonight show Howard Stern. Here's a comedy role. What do you think?

What would they say? We won't bring in stuttering John. Did you hear any specific reasons or any? They heard that he had bad manners. He swore too much. He didn't take direction. He thought he could run everything himself. And I saw that all on the film.

Yes, you were actually there when the movie was being made. We had some back and forth. You mentioned that you were there late nights while it was shooting. We shot on the weekend. and then at night during the week. There was never any days off. I was at my office from five in the morning until seven, eight at night. And then I'd go over to the set.

Sometimes I'd be a little late. Sometimes I'd be there right on time. We'd shoot all night. I'd go home. I'd shower. I'd go right back to the office. And I'd do that all over again for the five weeks. I'm sure he paid you handsomely for that.

That's a lot of work. Are you kidding? He didn't pay me as a producer. He paid me $3,000 for casting, and he didn't even pay me my fee as a manager. So he owes you money. And he didn't even thank me or invite me to the screening at when they sold it to National Lampoon.

I found out about that through the director that I got. Michael D. Lorenzo. You brought him in? I brought him in. Now, at that point, he's a TV star. He's famous for being in the thriller video. He's a name of some kind. How did you convince him to do this?

I just told him he could direct, and I interviewed a couple of directors, and he was the one that got it. I talked to John about it, and he was the best one, just like the role that Jeffrey Ross played. he didn't want Jeffrey for the role who did he wanted he wanted Patton Oswald and then he wanted someone else and then he went to

Jeffrey Ross and then he went back to Patton Patton turned it down flat and then he hired Jeffrey Ross interesting I always thought that role was written for Artie Lang was he ever thrown his name was thrown out there yeah

yes but Artie didn't want it and then the one that The one that, yeah, it was a horrible script. Horrible. And John can't act. No. There's some hostility between Michael D. Lorenzo and John in the commentary of the DVD.

Do you remember anything happening between them? Yes, because the DP quit after three days. Really? Really? Yeah. Why? Because John was very possessive and he was yelling at everybody. and also he was sending PAs to go get him alcohol and to bring him drugs.

What? While there were kids on the set. Oh, that's not good. Those were his kids, though. So it's okay. No, the kids started in that movie. The kids have started the movie, and there were sag teachers. And what he would do is he would smoke a cigarette.

He would take two or three drags, take two or three. three sips of a beer, put the cigarette in the beer and be done with that, and then snort the cocaine, and then open a new can of beer, do the same thing over and over. It was always late to his call. How do you get away with smoking, doing a line on a set like that? I don't know. We found, I also found condoms all over the rooms. And he was married at the time. So explain that to me.

got him Mark Cuban. One of my clients got Mark Cuban to come in for free. And then I represented Mark for a short time. But Mark didn't charge anything. He just wanted to be in a movie.

And, you know, he was a better actor than John any day of the week. But the things that he pulled on set with sending PAs for beer or

vodka and then cocaine and then cigarettes when they were not higher to do that and I would say that to him and I used my very firm voice like you're going to get in trouble

and there's going to be a lot of penalties he went over budget and I had to raise more money because he wanted to shoot certain scenes in New York, which we didn't budget for. So the investors had to put in more money and they were not happy about it. Then the line producer quit because she had a falling out with John. What was that falling out about?

Do you remember? He didn't want to pay her what she was owed. And so he had me do her job. He didn't want to hire someone else. And I'm not a line producer. And I didn't get paid for that. What was the budget of the film? Do you remember?

It was over a million. Okay. So a million dollar budget, he ended up going over it. I assumed that your pay was in that budget. Correct? It was, but I didn't get it. He took it. He took your portion of the money.

Yes. Did you ever think about suing him? Was there any settlement offer or anything? I thought of suing him, but then he got divorced. and I had no way of finding him. And because at that time, SAG didn't protect managers like they do now, because I'm part of SAG. I've always been a SAG.

I started in the acting world way before I started being a manager. I've been a manager since I was 22, so 25 years. but way before managers were even really known, there were just like very few. And, you know, I've read people like Lou Gossett and Aaron Moran, and they didn't do to me what Lou Gossett burned me, but, you know, he ended up giving me what he owed me. How much does John owe you right now?

He owes me close to $40,000. Wow. I mean, this is, by the way, you're not the only one. We've heard about this from multiple people that John borrows money or promises things and then never returns that. Yeah. And he owes it to me because I worked my ass off on that film. He didn't even thank me at the rap party and everyone was disgusted. I walked out. He didn't invite me to the premiere, which Michael de Lorenzo said he didn't want to go because of that, but I told him to go.

Michael was a sweetheart. Yeah. He really is. What about Bellamy Young who played his love interest? What was their relationship like? I don't think she really liked him. His wife was cast. Yeah, she's at the end of it, you cast her.

She's very good. She's a casting director, right? Yeah. Or agent, yeah. No, she's none of those. No, in the movie, I mean, she plays. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. she was an actress and then she got out of it because she had kids right and uh what was their

interactions like on set like what was their dynamic like she she was disgusted with the things he did how could you tell because i had to talk with her when i told her that he didn't pay me she was like i'll try and get you paid but you know then she divorced him Who do you think John was having sex with on set? Prostitutes. Oh. So it wasn't even just like underlings working on the movie. He was bringing in Coke and prostitutes.

Right. Wow. I'm the Hollywood Dream. I don't mean to like movie three or four to start getting into that shit, you know? We got to get a PA. Seriously. Well, he could get in trouble if he messed with the crew. I mean, he could have gone.

If I didn't beg them and slip them a couple extra bucks, which really came out of my pay because I didn't get paid at all, they would have reported him for him sending them on, for him sending them on beer runs, Coke runs. There's a famous incident that was reported where he apparently went to the bathroom for real in a fake toilet on the set in front of the crew, which is like not legal.

Do you remember this? Yes. How does that happen? He was so high out of his mind. He didn't know what he was doing. Then why isn't it a better performance acting wise? Good question. Because he doesn't know how to act.

He's not an actor. He wrote the script. He should not have played the lead. Someone else should have. That knew how to act. It would have been a moment. much better movie. So what was the feeling,

you know, the second week, third week of shooting, even at the rap party and stuff, did people feel like this was going to be salvageable? Michael wasn't sure. The actors were just happy it was over. Yeah.

A lot of them weren't really happy about doing it. Bellamy did it because you know, she hadn't been discovered yet. Yeah, she's great. Yeah, so she hadn't been discovered yet. But she wasn't the first one I made an offer to.

There were others. Who passed on it? A ton of actresses. Holly Berry. No, he didn't want Hallie Berry. He wanted Mandy Moore and he wanted... Mandy Moore! Yeah, he wanted a bunch of ridiculous Nancy gave it.

And for the one that played, the one that was in Zena, the Princess Warrior. Lucy Lawless. Was that the one that was in the movie? No. She didn't want to be on it, but her agent said she should do it because they got paid a lot of money. Oh. So talk to me about selling this to National Lampoons because that's something to three. I had no part of it.

Okay. I didn't even know about it. I was told it would never get sold. And then I guess the person that financed it wanted it to recoup his money. National Lampoons had already gone belly up shortly before and then got bought out by another company and they bought it. Then they screened it. Like I said, I wasn't invited. And then I only heard about it because of Michael.

And then I tried to watch the movie on one of the streamers. And it was, I couldn't even get past the first two minutes. It was so bad. These sets are wild in this movie. It looks so low budget. It looks like every scene was shot in the same place. They just put different curtains up. Like they're in the nightclub or they're in the bedroom.

Can you talk a little bit about what the set was and how you manage that? Alicia, who was the set designer, was horrible. She was really, she shouldn't have been working on a professional level, in my opinion. I, I, I, no, it really shows. Yeah, she comes from a horror world. And, you know, when I, I didn't hire her, she worked on a couple of me. movies with the line producer that was ultra low budget films. So she hired her.

We had a good AD and a second AD. And they didn't want to take the line producer's job because they were like, we're already having hard enough time with our jobs and we just want this to be over. All right. So how long did you work as John's manager? From 2007 until we wrapped and then I fired him. How much did he book during that period? Nothing.

Was the relationship ever good with John? At the beginning, when he promised me and signed a contract that he was going to pay me my producer's fee in front of the investors, he was going to pay me my commission, and he was going to pay me for the casting. Outside of saying he was going to pay you, did he have any redeeming qualities or talents? No.

Okay. He was a liar from the get-go. So then why did you stick through this horrific project and see it through to the end? Because some of the people were there because of me. Yeah. The actors, the big actors, the director. they all came on based on my name.

You had Bonnie Arons in there. Yeah. She was my client for eight years. Wow. And a lot of the people came on because of me as a favor to me, and including the director. And if I would have walked away, they would have walked too. So Jim J. Bullock was one of the big names.

Of course, he plays John. therapist. How long was he on the set for? How long did he stick around for that shoot? Two or three days. Does he remember that he was in that movie? If we asked him if we brought him on right now, would he know? Probably not. Yeah, I'm guessing.

Because I don't think Bellamy remembers. I ran into her and I said I was there when I hired you before you got your real break. And she's like, don't remind me. She's, fuck that out of her. Yeah, she remembers. Belami remembers.

She definitely remembers that. Yeah, but she says, don't remind her because she knows how bad it was. Luckily, she's just fine in it. She does the best she can do with what she was given. Yeah, she was pretty well. Yeah, she was the best in it out of everybody. She was the best.

John really made a big impression on you that seems to have stayed with you this whole time, but I'm having a hard time getting just some specific things outside of general awfulness. I want to know what ruined this relationship or what was the specific thing. He was just a liar and the things I see. saw him do on set in front of kids. Yeah. Little children under seven years old and over and under 10 is something that I just, I could never forget and I could never forgive because he knew SAG regulations.

So you're talking about specifically the drinking and smoking and drug use? And prostitutes. And the, a couple of kids found. condoms. Right. That's not good. Used condoms? Yes.

That's the worst kind. Yeah. It's the worst kind of find. You know, I, when we were rapping, I told him he had to pay all these actors and vendors and he didn't want to. And I said, you're going to get penalized for this shit. And he goes, I don't care. And then finally he paid them because SAG got involved.

But he didn't want to pay these. actors that you deserved it or the vendors and what's his justification for not paying people who just did a job what's his justification for not paying me yeah what would he say do you think he just said you'll get paid and that never happened and every time i called him he avoided my calls if you're just joining us we are being joined by karen feldman who was managing john milandez during the time that he made the movie won too many, and it seems like she had a very tough time during the filming of this movie. It seemed like it was a bit of a disaster,

and something that's stuck with you ever since. If you had clients at this level before, or is this the worst client you ever had? This is the worst client I've ever had. I've represented Academy Award winners, Golden Globe winners, Emmy winners, and none of them were selfish or arrogant like he was. That's amazing.

John seems so entitled. Like he deserved this. He's very entitled. And that was the problem is he thought he deserved everything. And he didn't. He didn't earn it. He didn't work for it. What's it like having a horrible experience with somebody,

having it stay with you so long it keeps you sedated, and then finding out. there's a universe dedicated to hating this random person too. When I found out, I was very happy to, you know, to join in because I didn't really know how else I could voice my opinion on such a horrible human being. I think you're going to be very popular. Do you want to give out any contact information? People want to reach out to you? Yeah, my email is Feldman, MGMT at gmail.com.

My company is Feldman Management. My phone number is 424-332-9034. I represent actors, writers, comedians, casting directors, and producers. Do you have your phone on you right now? Yeah. Okay. You're going to get a lot of people. calls, emails.

It's not always going to be who they claim to be, and it's not always going to be from the number it even says it is. So just have fun with that. Okay, good. I've been, you know, I've been down this path. So, Karen, to Adam's point there, when did you find out about the dabble verse? Was it when Ratner reached out to you? When what? So when Ben Ratner reached out to you because he was going through the whole list of the credits on one too many,

and he reached out to you. And is that when you discover that there's this whole dabble verse? Yes. So this is new to you. Yes. I just got a call from someone I don't recognize. Yeah, it's going to happen a lot. I wouldn't recommend it.

I wouldn't recommend it. You know your phone never, but if food starts coming to your house, just accept it, enjoy the pizza. And I didn't give out my address. Okay, good, but they're going to find it. They already have it. In fact, no, I have an office address listed. That's it. Okay, good, good, good.

You know what you're doing. Yep. I'm looking at Reddit right now. They have mapped to your home. No, I'm just kidding. Karen, do you want to look at some chats from the people who are watching the show and address some of the fine folks who are throwing a few shekels our way? Like Red 473F your mom says, because you show us the needle marks on her arms so we can connect the dots. What needle marks? Good answer. It's a chicken pox joke. James Q. Legend. To be fair, she represented John Wayne Gacy also. Is that true? No. Okay. The real other than Akumia, what was she managing before a trap house? Is that true?

No, good people. Good people. Real good kumia won too many methadone doses. Welcome to the day. I love your work. All right. Come on. You're killing me here.

Can't read that one. The one pun, remember when she offered her husband in Breaking Bad? I do. The akimbo pro I can fix there There you go That's the right That's a proposal Clay Dabler

A friend of John Melinda's platforming This loon to the fame SJ is a new low Is that true? Really? Is bringing people up that worked with John And asking them questions They can defend John And explain to us how we're wrong

And how we paid on time She's a producer on the film Shut up Clay Dabler Your opinion stinks Take it from here Karen wherever the leaf wins. Shut up, Dabler, your opinion stinks.

Noah Steve, five or four, says billionaire Mark Cuban, but more prepared than Senator John, stop. The movie Friday was four days of camera shots, $400,000 budget equals cult classic. One too many equals L. I am surprised it took them three weeks to film that movie, right? Longer, four weeks. It took four weeks to

fill one too many weeks? Yeah, because they went to New York, which wasn't in the budget. originally. But that's just for the street shots when he's trying to find the ATM? No, and he went with Bethany and then they ended up flying not first class or business, which was against SAG regulations, and they had to fly all night, two days and it was horrible from what the D.P. had told me and Bellamy had told me and John had told me it was a nightmare.

All right. I'm just speculating here and tell me I'm completely full of shit. But is there a reason why John wanted to go to with Bellamy to New York? Is there something else going on there? Because there's no, there were the two leads. So they wanted to do a couple of it. The movie was based on John. and his wife's life, I believe. Right. Right what you know. Me trying to cheat up my wife while she's there. So they went to New York to shoot certain scenes. Okay.

That's why they only took her and they took some of the crew. Okay. JJ Thrash, five blocks. I think two teenagers from Encino excellently thawed this lady out from a frozen block of prehistoric ice. she finna wheeze the juice soon she finna what is it Pest out West says predicting John's third stroke when he sees this

what do you think John's reaction will be when he sees this because he will finally someone spoke out I hope that this encourages others who've worked with John especially on one too many but other projects in the past because it seems like this is a trend you asked me a question that he

said something in 2008 about changing? Mm-hmm. Do I think he's changed? Yeah. You would ask me that in an email? Yeah. I don't think he's changed at all. It's interesting because a lot of times people think fondly of John when they think back

to him on the Howard Stern show. Like, oh, John was fun. We all like John. And then you go back and you rewatch these things. You're like, oh, no, he was always a piece of shit. Right. Right. That's what I heard. Yeah.

See, I'll admit, you know, before 2019, I went down a bad road. I got out of the industry. I was acting. I was modeling and, you know, and doing PA work. I got out of the industry. I had my sag card. And I took a bad road. and for four years.

And then in 99, I got clean and sober. And I've been sober 26 years. So I can see the behavior even before it starts. Yeah. And that's how I recognized what was happening on the set. Well, he has changed. He's gotten significantly worse. Yeah, he really has.

Oh, yeah. Manigan says, does this nice lady know if Drunky actually gets a pension from Sag? after you probably wouldn't know that i don't think so you don't think so why is that i don't know okay uh whatnot chaser curl this is great book more tranquilized guests tranquilized i mean i already have adam on here seems like a lot ray de vito the gummy smoker why would you monsters let this junkie docks herself well she's trying to get more people interested in it's it's a management company that's on the uh internet already you can find it uh dan varnie says warn her about john we all know what he does of people that are mean to him.

That's true. He might lash out at you. He'll threaten to sue you and stuff like that. He's full of shit. He won't do anything. He's suing me currently, but he won't sue you. Don't worry. You have nothing to worry about it.

Everything I'm saying is true. I have hundreds of people from that set that I can pick up the phone that will back me up. There you go. What's he going to do? Sue me for... He'll threaten to. He'll threaten to. He's going to say that the only reason you're doing this is so you can do the

podcast and that you'd say, anything just to make some, you know, appearances on some podcasts and you're doing this to kiss up to the hosts and that you have no specifics to back it up. Well, shit. I have everybody that was on that show, that movie. Who hates them the most? Who's the one who would just be so happy to find out about the double verse? Who's that?

Probably the line producer that walked up. Oh, yeah, we should find that person. Ben Ratner, I know you're not the producer for my show, but you might as well be at this point. get out that. Clyde Five Buck says one of the biggest interviews in WTP history, and her audio stinks. For the love of all that is good, fix it. She sounds like she's in the ocean.

You know, her and I actually tested this earlier, and it sounded better back then, but it's okay. I think we can all make out what's going on. I just fixed my earphones. Okay. You sound all right. I can hear you.

Detroit Dabler. Thanks for the scoop lady. Dablers appreciate. We sure do. This is great. 37 says, follow-up from two weeks ago, Carl. You were wishy-wash on your opinion on Matalica's load and reload.

I'd like your opinion on the record. Hi, Adam. I fell off for Metallica at those points. I was already long gone. Earl David Reed, 401. Imagine how many years this woman has told the story before we've heard it. That's why John can find Hollywood work. Yeah, he's got a bad reputation.

I've never talked about it before. But he probably hasn't. I mean, you mentioned he had a bad reputation when you were trying to sell him. So he even had a bad reputation back then. But I've never talked about it since I, since I represented him until tonight. He was on the Tonight Show during the filming of that movie because they did a little premiere with Jay Leno on the show with him, where they did a screening at the man's Chinese and everybody was leaving early and they caught it. Did you, so he was negotiating with you for a manager while he was on the Tonight Show and he couldn't get representation and he couldn't.

get any bookings? No. That's surprising. While they were premiering the movie. Well, just while you repped him. He was on the Tonight Show. Right. Yeah, he wasn't, he couldn't book anything.

He was performing stand-up at that time, really, right? He was trying to? Yeah. Yeah. And they shot some of the film at the Tonight Show, right? After hours. They're in his offices, I think. No.

None of it was shot at the Tonight Show. Okay. Everything was shot at the... Trap House. Yeah, at the Hobar. Hobar. Okay. Next, Pecks, producer Chris,

reminder to ISO, Karen, say Clay Deppor's opinion stinks. Yep, I think you made a note. I think you saw that. And also, we shot at a couple of scenes from New York on the street that they used for CSI, New York. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

CBS Radford, but nothing was ever done at Jay Leno's. Okay. He tells a story about shooting in the offices after hour. That's a lie. That's a lie. Maybe you're shooting something else. Not Johnny Mill. Yeah, right.

If you're shooting, all right. My DP would have told me if they shot there and they didn't have it scheduled. I had all this. You know, I'm the one that signed all the checks, except obviously, own, but... I took Savannah Guthrie's mom says, I thought Sunflower Dragon would be hotter. This is not Sunflower Dragon. This is Karen Feldman, C-A-R-O-N, is how we spell Karen, if you want to look her up and get

Dutch. Wherever the Leaf Wind says, we should say about a Go-FundMe to get her paid. I believe she has a Go-FundMe. Don't you have a Go-FundMe? I did when my, when my husband died. Okay. We can't see you right now. Is it still active your Go-FundMe?

No, it hasn't been active. years. Okay. My husband died during COVID. I'm sorry to hear that. Kim Bole. A lot of COVID from cancer. Oh, that sucks.

I'm very sorry to hear that. Kim Bowley just gifted five, and this is a really bad time to segue into this, but five gifted memberships, Kim Bowley. Yokes says, John's response to this lady is going to give us all six months of content of not more. I miss Tiger. You see, this keeps happening, Karen. Like he worked on the world, what was it, the arm wrestling challenge.

Yeah. Whatever that was called. And he tells stories about what it was like. And then we find people who work there. We find copies of it. And we find out it was not like what he said. In fact, it is what you are saying. So this is a pattern that keeps repeating.

You're not the first one. You won't be the last. This is fantastic, though, Karen. You're going to be very popular for quite some time. Wherever the Leaf wins, can we please get the line producer, we'd pay. Yeah, I know. I'm with you on that. Chaka John coming in on supertip.

GG slash WATP. Karen, these people can be idiots, but welcome to the dabbleverse. You're clearly a pro manager, so get ready to avoid calls from John and his minions. I'm sorry for what John did to you. Well, sad. Thank you. Jacob Shedd says, I can't imagine John typed out a 90-page screenplay. He's too lazy for that.

Somebody tells me another person did the heavy lifting. I did. You typed it? No. You wrote it. No, God for me. His wife did. His wife did.

His wife wrote it. Probably. That makes sense. It does. Carl is bad enough to have her to badmouth me, but I just realized she stole all my oxy contents from my recent shower far. So that voice right there is a stuttering Juan. No, I'm a slobbering Juan. I'm sorry.

Totally unrelated to stuttering John. We don't know. if there's any connection or all. It's like watching MLC and she's taking pictures of the chats for later. I know, Jenny Knoxville. Ask her if it was the worst script

ever written. That I've read definitely. Yeah, it was pretty bad. All right. Karen, thank you so much. You've been very generous with your time. Is there anything else you want to tell us

that you didn't get a chance to talk about that you wanted to communicate to the fine folks here in the devilvers? If you want to email me, I will see if I can find the line producer. I know she moved after that movie. Hopefully not to Greenland. No, but I can find out where she is.

That would be great. Yeah. That would be fantastic. Yeah, I'll find out. I know she has her own stories about John. She wanted me to quit because she saw the way he was working. gave me to death and that I was not sleeping, that I was rushing from set to the, to take a shower to go back to the office and change, you know, and take a shower, change clothes that I wasn't getting

any sleep. And even when I got sick one day from the food poisoning of the gross food that they had, you know, catered or whatever, I didn't take off. I lied in an office at the CSI, New York shoot when we used the streets on a Sunday.

It's a tough business. Did John have a smell or like a hygiene that was going around? Did he have a... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he liked to shower. No, he does not like to shower. No. No. It's dangerous. Did he use the fake shower on the set?

All right. I'm ready. I think he used the towel. Okay. Wherever the Leaf wins. Anyway, we could get like 20 plus people from the production on a stage at one time for QA. We could turn the production of one too many into a Broadway play. Yes.

Yes. I like it. I'm going to go see Greg Sesterro Friday night screening the room here at my local theater. And I really think there's an opportunity for John. to do a similar thing with one, do my name. Maybe not job, but maybe people who worked on it. The Kimbo Pro says, she sure can spin a yarn. I don't know what that means.

Ask her if it was the word. Oh, yeah, I read that one. Okay, very good. Karen, if people want to get in touch with Karen and want to have them, have her on your show, she seems to be enjoying talking about John and her experience. It's Feldman, MGMT at gmail.com, right? That's the best place to reach you. Yes.

Excellent. Or if you want to hire her to be your manager, because she's a hard worker and she works hard for her clients. Reach out to her for that as well. All right. Karen, you getting some... You are calling me from Canada. Yeah. We love Canadian.

Oh, hello. Guarantee. That's what's happening right now. Okay. I'll text you so that if you want to... Okay. Thank you so much. All right, Karen.

Thank you so much for coming on. And good luck with your phone. I hope you don't have to block people. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Wow.

Wow. That's fun. I told Adam, but this might go sideways. But I think it worked out pretty well, actually. All the things considered, it's probably pretty good. Well, let's just finish up this segment with this. My shower turned on me. Yes, it did.

no wonder you were skeptical of showers all along. Who are we talking about? Cringe of the week? I think we're... She really paints him like a monster. It's tough to... Like really bad. And I believe all that stuff.

I wouldn't be expecting a few of those things that she just said. No, the bit about kids, doing all that stuff around kids. I mean, you... That thing that his mother-in-law said to him over Thanksgiving has haunted me since he said it on his show in Calabas. I didn't know the source until they'll live in with the past episode. I'm so glad you released that little segment because it's so telling and it's something I think about.

Because she's saying that in front of his children on Thanksgiving. He's like, you're drunk as he's giving the toast. Telling us this story thinking we're all going to be on his side. Thinking we're all like, what a rude woman. Like how dare she ruin that for you? The funny part was, John goes, my mother-in-law yells at me, I'll give him the toast. She says, you're drunk. and my kids are right there.

It's like, that's the problem. Right. That's your mother-in-law's fault. You're drunk in front of your kids. Well, if she wouldn't have pointed it out, it wouldn't have been a problem. Right. So to hear him doing those things on set in front of kids where there's like a union and like guardians and people there, it's a big deal. That's how that shit goes down at Nickelodeon because people see bad things and they don't want to say anything and they don't know.

And John doesn't look too reasonable. And I kind of dismiss this a lot because John likes to talk about how he likes cocaine and stuff. and we've heard a lot of these tales, but I guess I didn't realize that that's where we're at, like as soon as he has a little bit of power. This is the thing that I always makes me nervous about, like John and Kevin Brennan, like the way they boss people around

and try to control people's lives, it's like all of a sudden, they have a couple APs on set, and it's just like, all right, go get me beer, go get me Coke, go get me a hooker. It's like they're just bossing people around to do their bidding.

It's like, John was not cut out for this. He doesn't understand. Mr. Melendez, are you going to pay us back for that? Yeah, he doesn't know. He doesn't know they don't work for him. They work for the film. They're not there to get you prostitutes. They're there to take care of things so you can stay here.

Where's that line producer? Yeah, start producing lines. That's not what they do, John. You're misunderstanding. All right, I'll take the keep-up producers. Yeah, the key grip. Where's this best boy I'm hearing so much about? He must be wonderful.

He's not so great. Holy shit. Wait until jazz there's finding people I used to work with at marketing companies. I can't wait. He was like Marty McFly. He skied in to work every morning in a hoodie. Anyway, so Stephanie Miller put out a tweet. This is why I'm a pro, Adam.

This is why I'm the best of the business. That's a great segue. He does it. Yep. Back to cringe of the week. You want to set this up at all? Nope. She tweeted some bullshit.

Stephanie Miller says, A listener sent this screenshot of Rachel Maddow and I'm not sure who that woman is. Oh, Stephanie Miller. Of two lesbian broadcasters saying, listeners sent this screenshot and said her daughter asked, Mommy, why do we get all our news from lesbians? Laughing emoji. Because Pumpkin, we're not distracted by dick.

So you're saying that there's no way a. daughter asked her mother why all the news comes from lesbians? I think whatever the kid asked, she definitely responded because I'm not distracted by dick, honey. That's definitely it. So those are the only people who give us news. Interesting. Didn't know that.

Brendan Schaub was on Joe Rogan and did something incorrectly. Oh, yeah. He made a fool of himself. You can't even believe it would happen. Here's a quick clip of it. See if you can spot it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is, it is subtle. And they cleanse them.

I'll give me a hint. Don't worry about what they're talking about. All right. That's not the, that's not the issue at hand. With Eddie's track record, I don't know, I'm listening. I'm a like it. I don't know, but it is.

Okay. Brennan's got a cigar at his hand. Yeah. And you might notice. It's backwards. Yeah, that band is way down there. Yeah, he lit the wrong end of the cigar. I'm not a cigar smoker myself, but it's really easy to know which sides the side you should light and which side you should put in your mouth.

How can you tell? Well, there's a number of ways to look at it to see one of them being that band down there. So memes started being formed. What you think you look like when you're smoking a cigar, what you actually look like when you're smoking a cigar. Shab put out a tweet to get out in front of this. Oh. He says, I smoked the cigar backwards on purpose to make you guys forget that lame-ass London card.

Ha, ha, ha. Good stuff. He did that on purpose because of UFC, right, guys? Do you want to see his explanation on the Shab show? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's see why he smoked his cigar backwards. I smoked the cigar backwards.

Here's the Why mean you can't really tell them? Well, he goes, M.M.A. Guru goes in other news, Brennan Shops smoked the scar backwards yesterday night. Yesterday night. All right. Orra, he doesn't play by society's rules.

At least he was nice about it. He could have been way meaner about it. Here's my thing. One, I don't know cigars. I only smoke them with Joe Rogan on the fight companion. I've no other opportunity to smoke them. I'm not going to smoke at home. But I do, like, out of all the vices that I've,

you know, obviously, I still do nicotine, haven't drank in a long, long time now. Don't do any drugs, no more, none of that stuff. I will do a cigar when I'm doing Fight Companion. Those are Joe Rogan cigars. I love a cigar. I love a nice cigar. Don't know shit about them.

But correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not trying to defend myself. I'm an idiot, clearly. But correct me if I'm wrong on this. There's no filter to a cigar. So it's not like a cigarette. If you're smoking a cigarette backwards, well, buddy, there's a filter in your script. with a cigar, there's no filter.

Correct. If I'm rock on this, that's very funny. What makes it backwards is just the labeling on there. So most traditional premium cigars don't. No, they don't. They don't. The big cigars you smoke don't have filters because there's cigars. So there's no really, I guess the way you'd be doing it backwards because you're looking

at the label on it. But I cut it and I was like, fuck it. You know, I cut it and it's all the same shit. It's all the same shit. But I get it. I get it. I get it now, too. Like, that's where the band is.

That's where the band is, yeah. Yeah. I guess the trouble would be is you're smoking the chemicals from the... The band? From the label? Yeah. Plastic, whatever that is. No shit.

Yeah, I don't know shit about success. Sorry, guys. Sorry, y'all. Do you know anything about burning plastic? Is that something that's come up before in your life? Holy shit, that's funny. I guess that's the problem. Sorry, guys.

Sorry, y'all. My guru called me out. good. Still love you, bud. Still love you. That's funny. That's a fun one for Brendan, right? Leaned in a little bit. He thinks the problem everybody had is that we think he's a cigar expert. Guys, I know you all look at me for your cigar news, but I'm telling you, I'm not the guy. Was he trying to say maybe I'm right? Because if you do it the other way, you're going to inhale.

But the way he did it, you're burning the band. So you're inhaling the plastic thing. That's why it's the other way. So you don't burn that. little plastic thing. Of course. People don't smoke it to the end. It's not a joint. Right. Leave that.

That's how you know. I mean, you'd peel it off, if anything, right? Yeah. You'd be like, I'll just get this, get rid of this thing because I don't want to smoke plastic. That would be the move. That would be smart. All right. Adam, you introduced us to the former violinist from the Dave Matthews band, Boyd Tinsley, Tinsley.

Tinsley. Tinsley. A couple of weeks ago. Sorry about that. He has a, yeah, he should be. He has an Instagram page where he shows off his new instrument he invented called the Box Z or Box, however pronounces it.

And he puts up a lot of videos where he's just playing along with Dave Matthews band and other jam bands and stuff and just kind of rocking out. We get to hear his musical process. I mean, listen, you don't think of violinists as percussionist, so it's pretty amazing that he made that transition. You know, he's very good at both, obviously.

Is he, though? Is he? He's terrible. What's going on with them? There's an update? and what he's up to you right now? Yeah, it's definitely a cry for help of some kind because he posts these a lot

and it's the same rhythm every time and once a day I check in to just hope that it's going to be like, hey guys, this is Boyd. Remember me? I'm doing a gig or just anything other than this kind of insane rhythmic loop he's in where he can't move his left hand

and only his right hand shakes. It's very disturbing. I love it. Is he's got that overhead, Mike, where it looks like he's paying attention. Like, all right, we got to get this right. Let's see. I'll try it up here. Let's check the levels. No, no. Let's bring it over here. And then

the mix is just fucking god-awful. None of it makes any sense at all. You can barely make out the sign that's being played. Or any of the instrumentation on the music. Yeah, it's just like when Rob Saul sets up all that gear and then you just hear this empty voice echoing in a studio apartment. Seems like a giant waste of time, actually. All right, well, thank you for keeping us updated. on Boyd.

More news as it develops. We're hoping he turns it around one of these guys. Do I have a Bill Burr stinger? I don't, do I? Do I say this every episode? Probably. I'm sure that our editor Ed is pulling his hair out right now. I've said just four of them, Carl.

Just play Brother Man. Seriously, no difference. So Bill Burr recently on the Monday morning podcast, was talking about a new act that he might develop. And Adam, you were picking up on this. Sounds like he's talking to himself here. I don't want to give people a preconceived notion before we hear the clip.

But it's very odd what he's talking about here. Yeah, they just said if you were to do a puppet act, what would your puppet act be? Okay. No, I would turn it around where, you know, the guy doing the voice always plays the dummy and the puppets always smarter. I would be berating.

the puppet. Hey, Woody, if you know what it was best for you, you'd shut the fuck up, or you're never going to talk again if you know what I mean. You know, maybe you should stop watching the Twilight Zone and get your fucking ego in check before he sent you through a wood chipper. All right? Now, stop looking at me with that stupid look on your face and entertain these fucking cunts. That's what I would do.

But I would do it with smiling, right? Hey, Woody, why don't you shut the fuck up? Oh, you never say another fuck. No, I don't need to do that because I'm talking, right? Who is he scolding there? Shut the fuck up Oh, I forgot to mention He's cured from anger

Yeah, right. Therapy is working. Therapy is very much working. But I do with a smile on my face And my teeth never separate So you can tell him very happy As I do this bit. Hi, you would cunts

And I'll get accused of, you know, psychoanalizing or reading too much into it If I say he's letting his anger out At someone specific in this bit But I don't have to say it. Bill did it for me. You know what? I would have a puppet.

It would be a woman and she would just be mad at me. Oh, boy. And she wouldn't be looking at me the entire time. She'd just be looking the other way, shaking her head. And I would just explain to the crowd what I felt I did wrong, which would get her to start to look at me. But then when I started to say what she did wrong, she would be rolling her eyes and shaking her fucking head, you know, rolling over. Oh, no. Is the puppet in bed with you?

Yeah. I always thought this podcast was for his wife to try to fix their marriage. Like, hey, I'm happy. Everything's great. I don't swear around the kids. Everything's great. Sounds like the wife is tapped out. She's no longer listening to this podcast.

And I was just like, yeah, I'll tell you what this act would be. It'd be my fucking cunt wife being a bitch. That's what it would be. There's no pleasing this asshole. It's like, whoa, all right. I see what's going on here. He's made some announcements that might be progress. He's given up the idea of being.

anger free because he can't keep it up. Yeah, it's probably not good for you, right? Yeah, it's not healthy at all to keep that bottled up. That's how falling down happens. But he's trying to find the places where he can let it out. And I think you're right. The podcast used to be the shining example for his wife and therapist to be like, look how great I'm doing.

And now it's his private little place to let all the anger out so we can go back out and smile for the real world. That's awesome. It sounds like a lot of work at home. Sounds like a lot of energy. It sounds like a huge pain of the ass. and I think he kind of devolves that in this. One of the biggest fears I ever had was becoming the yes dear husband,

because then I feel like you've just completely lost yourself in the relationship, and it's not what happens. You do the yes dear thing, and then you know what happens? They're nice to you, and then the whole fuck. And then you're actually working together. You're rowing in the same direction, where if you're doing that thing where, you know, you're trying to win. There's nothing to win.

I finally figured that out. Like, what am I trying to win here? So he's like totally giving up. He's like, I'm just the yes dear guy now. Like, whatever. I'm not going to win an argument. I never do. So I'll just go along with whatever DSA.

What do you think, Chris? Because I think there's a part of this that is maturity. There's a part of this that's like, you know, what have you won? Do you what I mean? You can have a happy life or you can be right. You can be right and make people miserable. Maybe if you compromise or just listen, there's something else there. I just don't know why this way of thinking applies to her only and not anything else in his life where some compromise or learning might be warranted.

Sure. Nothing else in his life nags him so much. It would be my guess on that. I actually have a clip from Mark Norman on Joe Rogan. and the great Cardiff Electric set this over to me just a day or two ago. And it's very telling when you see a guy who's friends with Bill Burr and you get a quick sense into what their relationship is, Bill and Nia's relationship is. Check this out. I never said that.

No, you're miss, first of all, you're taking something that was sarcastic. Yes. And you're making it like a quote as if this is like what my real feelings were. Yeah. And they kind of want it to be real, which is strange. You know, they go, we hate racism. I heard this thing where they're like, Bill Burr's a racist, and somebody tweeted his wife's black. And they were like, well, sometimes you'll marry black women to dominate them.

And you're like, giving up, man. And then his wife tweeted. You don't know that relationship. Yeah. Sometimes people marry black women to dominate them. And Joe goes, you don't know that relationship. It's the exact opposite of that, which is very funny. Like, that's just a quick line in there, buried in a podcast, an hour and a half a man.

But Cardiff was listening. He's just like, oh, that's interesting. That's interesting that Joe Rogan, it seems like all Bill's friends know that he's pussy whipped. I was so distracted by Mark Norman effortlessly, casually smoking a cigar without a thing. I know. Yeah, I was focused on that. I apologize. We should have done this clip before the cigar, front and shop cigar thing, for sure.

We have one more clip from Bill Burr. He's watching news in French for some reason. Every morning. Why is that? Because he says he's learning French by watching it. Oh. All right. Well, let's find out what he's learning.

But I know what they're talking about. It doesn't necessarily... I could actually understand. Like, this other day, this dude was talking about war. And I was thinking, is he talking about World War II? This is France. I don't know if it's some sort of, you know, Francis...

What is this guy? De Gaul or whatever? You know, Remembrance Day or some shit. Is it a holiday? I don't know. Then I heard Tel Aviv. Then I heard Le Bredte d'on. And I'm like, now he's talking about us.

And I was trying to gauge by his tone where he was sitting. I mean, you know, what we're doing on Iran, is he talking about that? But I mean, I'm like able to listen to a conversation like that. It's pretty fucking exciting. I mean, the topic is as dark as it gets. But like, you know, I don't know. Good for you, Bill. Yep.

I like that he doesn't understand what they're saying, but he's just like, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the current war. Cool. It makes sense. I haven't taken any lessons about how to speak French, but if I heard attack Presidente Tel Aviv. Yep. I'm going to figure out what they're talking about. It doesn't mean I now am fluent in French.

And he learned drums by listening to ACDC. Exactly. That's right. It's not the way to do it, I would say. All right. Whitney Covings is a show called Good for You. It has tons of viewers. People seem to love it. because Whitney Coffey is so funny and interesting,

and she just speaks off the dome and it's always witty. And lately she's been talking a lot about Jeffrey Epstein and AI and geopolitics and things that maybe aren't necessarily all that fun. So she decided, what if I ask the Internet what they want to know about and see what they say? Hey, y'all, welcome to the program. This week, I will not. be talking about if dinosaurs were real or not. I won't be talking about the moon landing. No, I really wanted to do an episode that was an advice episode. I asked the internet what they

wanted me to talk about. I was overwhelmingly not getting requests to talk about geopolitics or AI taking over. I think people wanted a little break. Yeah, or maybe you suck at those things. maybe no one's looking for you at you for your geopolitical opinions on things because you stink you're not Tim Dillon it's like oh turns out people don't want to hear the same old shit I've been talking about and thinking I'm funny what is that on top of her shirt there I'm glad we're back to the horrible tops she has advice this is an advice show that she ends up doing and we'll get into her clothing because she talks about her advice for purchasing clothing so we can maybe analyze it at that point.

But let's first find out what her expertise is in. If she's going to give advice out, I want to know what is she an expert in? I am an expert on making mistakes. I've made them all. I can help you avoid some. Oh, making mistakes. And then you probably learn from those mistakes

and don't like, I don't double down and then triple down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You repeat them, right? You repeat them. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Whitney, we know you make mistakes.

The question is, do you, learn from those and grow as a person. Doesn't see what you do. That's the problem. So she starts talking about the type of advice that she wants from advice shows. Can you help me with that? I just want to not tweet something that I can never untweet. It's going to be screen grabbed and taken over to the threads.

Oh, you want advice on not putting your foot in your mouth with Ms. Rachel? Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. We can help you with that. Slow down. Right, yeah, take a breath. Give it a second. Sleep on it.

We decided to go after a beloved child entertainer. So she tells us what this show is going to be like in case we didn't already know. This will be in no particular order. I'm going to be all over the place. It's going to be very stream of consciousness. Yeah. She's usually so succinct and prepared. I'm shocked to think that this is going to be all over.

A special episode. Yeah, wow. All of a sudden is just going to be all over the place with this stuff. All right. That's good. Well, she explains, and this is actually some really good advice, she explains why she is the way that she is and what that does for her. But you know what? Allow this to be an example of why being authentic makes you money.

I'm sorry. Is there anything about this woman that's authentic? Even her view count is not authentic. She speaks the bullshit. What is she talking about? It's just got to be your authentic self. you've changed your format four times on the show. You're copying every other successful person that you see.

Being authentic makes you money. What is this hand gesture she's doing? What is this thing? She keeps doing. She would probably know. I'm not familiar. What that means. She was talking about money at the same time.

Oh, okay. So her big advice, women in the 30s is to freeze your eggs. She says, I know it's expensive, but you got to freeze your eggs because you don't want to like decide to settle for a guy when you're 38 and then end up having kids with someone that sucks and whatever. And she explains, okay, it's expensive to freeze your eggs. But there are ways to save money and she's got some good advice on that. You don't need that new bathing suit. Nobody cares. Nobody has ever gotten a promotion or a husband because of a new bathing suit. This is the kind of advice show she's doing for us, everyone. It's not good advice and it's not funny.

So I'm not sure what the point of it is. I'm sure what she's going for with this. But don't worry, she assures us she's not trying to be funny. I'm not kidding. This isn't a joke. I'm not even trying to be funny. This is just true. I do prison body weight workouts.

If you have time or money for an overpriced gym, but not time and money to freeze your eggs, we will have words. It's hilarious because she is trying to be funny by saying I'm not trying to be funny. but then she also isn't funny. I thought she was going to tell us how to freeze our eggs at home. That would be a better advice, right? Yeah.

Save some money on that. Get that bathing suit. Right. I'm going to tell you, she has a crutch that I picked up on, and it's the, I'm not kidding, I'm not trying to be funny thing. We're going to see it crop up from time to time. And I don't know if that's something that she got from Tim Dillon or something, but it doesn't work for her.

because she's not hysterically funny. You know, she tries to say outrageous things that's going to catch you off your guard. But even Pat, who's sitting there and paid to laugh at her, is just sitting there silently the entire episode. She tells you everything. You need to know, even when her husband was in, her fiancé. And her fiance is like, I love this show. This show is great. She's trying to be funny and laughing and stuff.

And he's like, all right, next question. It's like, no one finds this funny. And I really wish she would take her own advice on this one. This seems like something that she should be listening to herself on. By your mid-30s, frankly, you shouldn't be saying much at all. You should only be talking if it's absolutely necessary. Most men aren't going to hear you anyway. So choose your moments wisely.

So everyone's like, when you do talk, they're like, whoa, Helen Keller, said something. Keep them guessing. Is that incredible? The lack of self-awareness on this woman? She's like, I got some advice for you. don't talk so much. Yeah. Did your agent tell you that?

Who's giving you that advice? Fiancé. Yeah, fiance, manager. Seems like really good advice. Maybe you're talking too much. Taking the piss, right? This is all hilarious. Is it?

That's what she's doing. She's not trying to be funny. She said that. Yeah. I don't know. That's what Andy Kaufman said. Right. Well, this, I mean, yes, you're right.

She is, this is a goof. This is a comedy show. This is the laziest comedy possible right here. You're also going to get AAA. You're getting AAA. I don't know what to tell you. You're getting triple A. And while you're at it, you're going to go to AA.

All the acronyms. This is your decade for the acronyms. You're going to AA because you're going to get ahead of it. Because you are addicted to something. You're addicted to something. If it's not alcohol, it's bad relationships, it's drama, it's shopping, it's LaBoo's, it's lip balm, it's the rent fare, whatever it is. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you go to AA because you shop too much, it's not going to have you back, right? Probably not invited to the next meeting after that. Which is sad because it's an open invite. This whole thing where it's like you should get AAA. And while you're at it, get AA. Like, why? Because it's similar. Shut the F up you see.

right yeah it's fucking stupid it's really bad uh hopefully she was just making that up on the fly and write that down ahead of time i don't know there was video involved oh i know they put in a lot stuff in post like wow isn't it funny we put in the logos for these things no we just hear it and know it and the close up i still cannot get used to that there's a single it's a single camera shoot and they just go back and forth between a you know they zoom in a little bit and then they pull back out it seems completely arbitrary Yeah. Oh, it is.

Yeah. And there's a thing about comedy playing best in just like one uninterrupted take, and they're cutting every five seconds with her to, like, force some punchline and fake rhythm that's not working. Yeah. There's a couple of places where the editing is awkward and shoehorned. And I like it when she goes off on, you know, a little bit of a rant. You know, she lays down something that seems absurd,

but then really, like, tackles it and goes after. This is a great example of that. Yeah. You're going to stretch in public. You're going to stretch when you're waiting in line. I go to the airport and you're all just standing there. Just standing there. Just atrophying in front of my very face.

No one's stretching. No one's doing squats. No one's practicing for a, yeah, sport that they'll never get drafted for. No one's practicing their three-pointers. No one's tackling anyone. That is honestly, I sit at the airport. I'm looking at everyone. And I'm like, really?

Really? You all have two hours to kill, and this is the posture you choose. This is the way you're choosing to spend this. I'm hanging from the Hudson News gutter, indoor gutter, doing dips. Way to stick the landing. She didn't know where she was going with that. And I was just like, I'll do it another thing. hanging from the gutter.

Good stuff. Honey, I hear you're disappointed in me. I don't know what I've done, but I'm sorry, and I just want this to go away. We just please have dinner. Are you still working out material, or is this just... Are you actually mad what's happening? So, like I mentioned earlier, she has this crutch thing where she tells you she's not joking or that she's being serious. and I guess that's supposed to be funny

and supposed to add to the comedy. If you are paying full price for clothes, you should be in a mental hospital. I'm not even kidding. But you wouldn't put someone in a mental hospital for paying too much for clothes though, right? Is that why it's funny that she's like, I'm not kidding?

Because he's like, well, no, you probably are kidding. Because you wouldn't, that'd be too much, right? A mental hospital? Yeah. maybe your friends can take you aside, you know, and be like, yeah, let's try goodwill. But a mental hospital? Seems so excessive. I think she was kidding.

Wait until you hear this fucking ad. She doesn't add for Lola blankets, whatever the fuck that is. And I don't think this is the copy. I think she can't help herself. And she just does this. I don't know if you guys know this about me, but when I'm not podcasting or doing stand-up, I am an actual burrito. Blankets are my number one thing.

I'm not kidding. Lola blankets, I'm not kidding. You don't need anything else. You don't even need a boyfriend or husband. You just need a Lola blanket. I'm actually not kidding. Three times. Yeah.

Is that their slogan? In the first paragraph, we're not kidding. We're selling blankets on the internet. We're not kidding. Seriously. Blankets on the fucking internet. Why bother going to a store where you can actually touch them and put them in a shopping cart?

No, no, no, no. Not the Internet. We're not kidding. What is her message for young women? Is it to shut the fuck up and hide? Yes. Shut up, wrap yourself in a blanket, and don't do anything ever. Yes.

And buy shitty clothing. It's so funny when she was talking about, like, people who spend, you know, retail for clothes. She's like, you can just find this shit used to have the Internet. It's like, yeah, I can tell. Yeah. I can tell someone got that from a gift or something. I'm not wearing this. Oh, I didn't buy this.

I made this earlier. Oh, yeah. You're right. There's band-aids. What is that? Gauze. Oh, God. I'm not kidding.

It's a bad shirt. I'm not kidding. That is one of the worst that she's worn, and she's worn some bad ones. I'm not joking. I'm serious. I'm not kidding. She's got to be exhausting. Yeah.

I mean, I'm exhausted. All right, now she gets some advice. So, again, it's for women in the 30s. Sometimes a woman er 30s will find the right guy. And what should you do? Let's say you do find the right guy. She's got some more great advice for those ladies. If you do find the right person in your 30s, shut up.

That's it. That's all it is. Just you have to shut up. You have got to shut up. Interesting. This seems to be the overall message from this episode. Yep. Women should be seen and not heard.

Everyone except me. Right. Why is she the exception to this rule? This seems like a good rule. Doesn't see what the worst. She has a daughter, right? She does, yeah. So maybe she's just talking to that one person in particular,

under 30. Well, no, her daughter's young. She just had a kid. Yeah, sounds like she won't shut up. Well, yeah, babies do that. You know what? If you're under 30, no more talking. Right, yes.

Well, so the advice she's giving is, okay, so you got this boyfriend, he's great, and you found the one, but you want to bust his balls a little bit. You want to keep them in check a little bit. And she explains why you shouldn't do that, which is fascinating based on how all of us know who Whitney Cummings is. I implore you. If you find one, thank the Lord every day and worship that person. Don't test them.

I know it's in our nature. Just be nice. Just be nice. Nobody wants to be roasted or made fun of it called out. Even if he says, yeah, I love a girl. She gives it to me. She really, he doesn't like it.

No one likes it. No one likes it. Take this from me. Don't make fun of them in public. Ever, ever, ever. Even if there's something to be made fun of. Even if you're in the right, you have to shut up.

That's wild. This is a woman who blocks the word cougar from the chats. Give them a list of words you don't want to hear. Yes. Is that crazy? And hop up and down like a child. She's famous because. of the roasts and she goes, people don't like to be roasted.

They don't like to have their balls and busters. Never, ever do that. She is a different person. What happened to her? The internet happened to her. She got roasted and she didn't like it. Right. Even if they're in the wrong, let's say they perform in Saudi Arabia. For example, whatever. It happens.

Yeah, right. Don't bust their balls about it. You know, that's kind of a dick move. She was jumping out of her chair. Don't say anything. Yes. It's crazy. That's the thing she's most passionate about. and then because she is a rose comic and a pro she gives us an example of what might be some good natured ribbing between you and your significant other

that you should try to avoid this is really good back and forth with her and Pat you cannot make fun of them old Pat over here shirt guy none of it you're right you're correct Pat is shirt guy okay

good stuff the fuck was that Pat's shirt guy Don't say that to him. He's going to get real upset if you do that. You look pissed. What's going on? Is it the name of the show, good for you?

Isn't that a little sarcastic? Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. I would think so. That's too much. We've gone too far already. What the fuck happened to this woman?

I don't understand the point of this episode. I'm sure it's all to as a goof and to be silly and not in this funny. I'm giving advice and my life's ridiculous, I guess. But then she takes a lot of it real seriously. It's like, no, no, no, no, you really need to shut up. You really need to stop talking so much. It gets a lot like Opie, where she's riding that line between political parties trying to maybe carve a new one. Opie's trying to not offend anybody.

She sounds like she's trying to start something new. She just doesn't know what it is and it's so specific there's no audience for it. I disagree. There's 800,000 people tune into every single episode of her show. Oh, good for you. What's going on with Opie? So Opie's back his house in the Hamptons. Is his family there with them, Adam?

Did he say? I couldn't tell. I didn't see or hear any evidence, even trace bits of evidence that they were there. Interesting. Even though it's daylight and the time you'd think the family would be around while he's podcasting. He probably has a premium spot where he's out overlooking the ocean. You know, I think the family would want to be out there, right? Yeah, and they might be.

I don't know. We wouldn't know. We wouldn't know. Well, Opie's having some issues and he's fired up about it. Opie, why are you late for the Opie radio podcast starring Ron the waiter? I'll tell you why, because the cable company out here, way out east of Long Island, sucks a dick. That's how we start today. Am I frozen, Ron?

Tell me I'm frozen. Just tell me I'm frozen. Just make it hurt. Am I frozen? Am I good? What's going on? Yeah, you're in it out, man. It's like you're coming in from a different dimension, man.

All right? Oh, you're frozen right now. Of course I am. You had your mouth open like you were doing a porno. All right. Oh, porno. Oh, God. Old men talking about having slow Wi-Fi.

Yes, sign me up. Let's go. This is exciting. This was the actual opening of the show. It started just like this. Mm-hmm. I hope he's pissed off because, uh, I guess the cable company isn't servicing him. How would it like to be serviced?

Yeah, his Wi-Fi isn't working. as well as he'd like, as you can see, he's freezing up, and the cable company is not helping him in the way that he'd like. And you know how they always say in morning radio and morning television, just anger. That's what we want. We want bitterness in anger at five in the morning. That's what you

want to get to the car, too. More people eating dicks. Well, the kids were screaming all morning. Now I'm commuting to work, and this guy's pissed off. Good. This is just what I want. So, yeah, you made a note on this next clip that runs

relationship with technology is fascinating. Yeah. This is like the dumbest thing to think as Opie's complaining about his Wi-Fi issues. Well, Craig here for the last six hours. I hate them all, Ron, I hate them all. When you, by the way, you're definitely freezing, on freezing like you're frozen right now. When you're freezing, yeah. What's it on my end?

Am I just normal? Or am I freezing too? No. The answer is who gives a fuck? Why do you care what Opie sees? Well, hold out when he leaves the room, am I still here? It's fucking wrong with him. But your internet's working, right, Ron?

Yeah, yeah. So don't worry about it. You're fine. Am I upside down? What does that mean? Yes. But what Ron does understand is human interactions. And when Opie tells Ron that the cable guy came to his house, used the bathroom,

took a shit in it, and left, Opie called the cable company to complain and tell on this guy. Oh, no. For real? Yes, he did. And he doesn't know why his internet isn't work. Wait a minute. So you're going to deny him a shit?

You're going to, like, really? I'm not, I guess in the end, I'm not happy about it, but I'm okay with it, if you want to know the real answer. But I'm not okay with the fact that he took advantage and this shit was brutal. I mean, the fuck abandoned. What do you think he timed it out? The shit. Like,

I'm in this house and I already know I can't do anything for these fine people, but I need to take a shit. Where's your bathroom? He says. I'll weigh in on this, obviously. Go ahead. I'm not the shit wearer,

but I'll weigh in on this. Anyway. I agree with Obey. I agree with the settlement here. You're just like, really? You're in my house and you got to take a shit. But then it would complain.

It's like, and it was brutal. Like, well, that's the time that you do like say, I'm sorry, I got to use your bathroom, right? Like,

If you were just in there to read the sports section, I'd be like, I'm moving a lot. What do we doing here? Yeah, right, exactly. But if it's like, this guy's like having a fucking emergency. Yeah.

And he's spraying the walls. I'm like, yeah, well, I get it. You know. I did lay cable. There you go. I feel like the cable guy came to his house and he's trying to come up with radio.

And that's as creative as he can get. Oh, so maybe there wasn't even a brutal shit that was taken. Or a cable guy. Yeah. Or cable. internet or a family. He was being a real asshole earlier about it until Ron was like, dude, hit him with some

common sense and all of a sudden he started walking it back going, well, if you want to know the truth of it, I think he's delusional either way. But he called the cable company the tattle tail on this gentleman. He had an emergency, a bathroom emergency. That's what he said. That's why Ron's like, what's wrong with you? Jesus Christ. You know Ron is chat in some.

stranger's homes before. Ron's shitting right now. That guy looks like he shits. So if this phone call actually happened and Opie just admitted that he was okay with it, was he complaining about the smell of it? Right. Like, clearly that was mighty taco. Not cool.

Right, yeah. What is the actual complaint? Did he shit up the sides of the bowl and didn't clean it? Toil paper clog? What are we talking about here? Just you want to talk about his diet? it? Is it what the man's eating? How far are we going with this? Right. I mean, you've noticed

I don't know if it's just a West Coast thing, but sometimes repair people will ask if they want us to take their shoes off. Yes. Boots on. There's all sorts of little. So I bet there's a kind of professionalism thing you can grade or a social, something you can find a way to give him no stars and just

ruin the man's fucking day for having the audacity to need a bathroom in the hamptons. Right, yeah. All right, well, there's a Opie's got a family duty story. that he came It's this story. They just love it so much.

We love it so much. It's a story that we bring up a lot in this family. Like, remember the time? Uh-huh. All right. Time the technician came and then when the sides of the toilet were covered in brown streets because it was so big.

Jesus. His family must love him. No, they're dead. Oh, okay. That's too bad. So Opie gets triggered by the chat pretty easily. And I don't think he should. react like he does, but there's obviously a lot of frustration and rage over the fact that Anthony

has this loyal fan base who stick up for him and follow him around and enjoy his program. And Opie doesn't have any of that. Hey, wait, wait, wait, shut your fucking mouth, asshole. Opie loves wine. I'm not a drinker, asshole. Wrong guy. This is, by the way, a free chat that just says Opie loves his wine. And listen to how Opie's responding to this.

It's one of the, one of the stupid-ass fucking things that these haters are trying to start that I'm a drunk or something. No, it's another guy, asshole. I've never, by the way, I've never seen Opie drink wine. But Opie does occasionally like, he likes the fruity beers. The IPA, you like the fruity beers. I'm not a drinker. These guys are so pathetic. It's like, dude, I am, there's so much real stuff to make fun of about me.

So much. But they have to go. and just make up garbage. Fucking garbage. Anthony is here. Frog guy. I know it's so fucking ridiculous. Someone accuses opium doing something.

It's just like, no, that's Anthony you're thinking about it. No, we're not thinking about anything. We're just busting your balls because it drives you mental. So he reads a free chat and freaks the fuck out over it. Yeah. Just drawing more attention. Right.

And getting more of these free chats. Now there's a reason, though, that he read the free chat. And Adam, I think you were picking. about something that was happening, the subtext of this, where Ron's trying to communicate with Opie and Opie is looking for any excuse to talk about anything else. Yeah. For some reason, Ron's trying to talk about his mother, and he keeps bringing it up, and Opie keeps cutting him off.

And if you saw Ron spent that whole last clip away from the screen where he is not normally, just like staring at him like this. Yeah. Because he's been trying to talk to him about his estranged mother, and he won't let him. So why is that? Why, Opie, he always shuts down Ron. And Ron seems to have pretty interesting family stories and family dynamics that he wants to share on the program. Opie brings nothing except for the cable guy shit in my toilet.

So you'd think he'd be like, Ron, yeah, tell me about your estranged mother, your relationship. What's going on with that? Not to mention Opie has had an estranged mother. They did not talk for years and years. It's a unique thing that they share. Opie's mother just died. Opie expressed nothing but regret for the time he wasted. So Ron keeps bringing up, you know, I haven't seen my mother in like 30 years.

He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let me talk about shit some more. Yeah, or let me just complain what people are writing in the free chat. Yeah. And this goes on. If that doesn't work, they move on to something else. No. But it's the other guy. Because most of these guys are hating on me because they like the other guy.

So whatever the other guy does, I guess I do. The other guy is a raging alcoholic that never took care of his issue. So Opie turns someone busting his balls into pointing out all of Anthony's character flaws for some reason when it has nothing to do with Anthony. Opie's making this about Anthony. That was crazy what we just saw. Yeah. What just happened right there?

He's just like, because again, I got an Opie's mind. And a lot of these people have this weird mentality where they think, It's nothing I did. Someone's doing this to me. Someone's forcing other people to do things to me. So when someone criticizes Opie, he's like, oh, you're just an Anthony fan. Right. Where it's like, no, they could just be observing you and calling you off for sucking.

And I get that mentality. We see that a lot here. It's just where he has to go to the point where so people are accusing him of being what Anthony is because that's what haters do. They're like, you're just like the person we love. The fuck is talking about. It doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't. It's such a leap.

Really, it's just his own mentality where it's like, why aren't you in Anthony's chat calling him out? That's what I think. Because he'd love that. Yeah, we're just hearing his thoughts. Yeah, that's what he's rooting for on here. But imagine you were in the middle of talking about a family loss and I interrupted you. Just berate someone who said Adam likes cigars. I can imagine that. As I said it, I was like, that could happen.

That sounds good. We'd have to talk afterwards. Yeah. So, Ron, again, is trying to share this information, whatever. on his mind about his mother, and I hope he's just not having it. Was it an nursing home? Or assisted living. Okay, all right.

Exactly. Exactly. I'm not bringing up mommy. I didn't see her for many years at the end of her life. So how about we, uh, ex-nay on the mommy? I'm already bothered by the cable company out here. Now you're, now you're bringing up mommy. You know, I wouldn't have my mother still alive.

Well, I think I would feel it. I would feel it. I went through that, Ron. I was wondering. And then I got the call for my sister. Hold on. Jesus, Obie immediately turns it into, it's all about him. So it's like, oh, yeah, like, what are my mom still alive?

Like, oh, yeah. Like, how would you find out? Like, how would you know? Like, what are your connections to your mom now? Instead, it's just like, I know, man. My mom died, I got the call from my sister. Like, yeah, no, I know. We went through that in November.

We all remember. You know, what you were just doing sounded like the beginning of a really interesting podcast. Right. Let's find your mother. Right. I just lost mine. I'm obsessed with you finding yours. Like anything.

Do you want to reconnect with her? Do you want to try to, you know, rebuild this bridge? What are we talking about here? It's like the fifth time he's brought it up this episode and Opie won't have it. Maybe just listen to him. He's like, I miss my mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all do.

Anyway, what is Beyonce up to? Right. So then finally, Ron, I think maybe gets fed up with this and just throws a Bob Anthony. If you're still here watching this, this is awesome. Because Opie, the way he responds to this is so telling. I'll just want to play. This is crazy.

But I don't understand why when you guys separated, he, like, took most of the listeners. That's what it seems like. It seems like when you guys separated, a lot of people went to his side. Am I getting that right? No, no. He's got a bigger audience, yeah, but no. No, you're also played into the garbage, Ron. Stop.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he has more of the fan base. But I'm doing just fine. You're playing into their garbage that I have nobody. And, you know, stop. You know, stop.

Stop. Just stop. All right. Let's wrap up. Wow, that always shuts down the conversation. I got to go. It seems like more of the Opin Anthony fans are fans of Anthony than they are of you. That's all bullshit.

Does he have way more of Opinity fans? Yes. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck just happened there? I'm fine. I am fine. Lots of people love me. My family's right there.

I'm fine. I gotta go. We're done. Like, what the fuck? O'Bee, and he's just like, that's garbage.

You just turn into the, like, Aaron Imble going, oh, you're just reading Reddit? He actually said, I've got nobody. Yeah.

Wow. What a victim. Also, back to the cable guy. Yeah. Imagine Opie dressed like that, letting him in, you know,

to his house in the Hamptons. Oh, you must be the plumber. Is the owner here? Yeah. This looks like a house I can take a shit in. All right.

Good point. He's in nothing but like mansions with, you know, multi-millionaires hanging out. And he's just like, oh, I can't shit near. Oh, there we go. This guy will get it. He's a $10 ring light and some snacks on the floor. He's like, this is be fine. As a blue-collar guy like me, good.

That must have what it would be like to be Opie's family. Like, if you're his kid, if you're asking, that's his, because I'm the father, that's why. No, just stop it. He just had no reason. Just stop it. Just stop it. Goodbye. So we have a clip from this morning show.

And, you know, Opie always accuses Anthony of being the racist from Opie and Anthony. We've pointed out many times on this show the way that Opie treats people in New York, whether it's the guy rotating his tires or the Chinese tourists in Central Park. He definitely talks down to minorities. And he's got a version of racism that he doesn't even recognize. But this is something that you picked up on from this morning show. Do you want to set it up at all? You just did perfectly.

Look at me. What I was going to say, so I took six years of Spanish and I ran into some, I'm trying to remember exactly who told me this, but they're like, they taught you the proper Spanish. The shit you learn in school, they don't even use on the street. It's dirty Spanish. If you don't know dirty Spanish and you try to use your dumb Spanish in the back of these restaurants or whatnot,

they're going to laugh at you. You're going to sound like a fucking loser from London. Ebonics that they're speaking? Opie, is that? EBOX. Remember that? Yes. What's he talking about there?

Also, he doesn't like the Brits. Right? Dirty Brits. Dirty Spanish. And the only time you're ever going to speak Spanish is, you know, in the kitchen. That's it. It's the only time it's going to come up. So you're not going to be able to talk to anyone.

That's weird. That's weird. Can I get a little sympathy? Stuttering John, of course, shattered his wrist, as he's going to explain to us. But before we get into that, John is gearing up for more lawsuits. I don't know why he thinks this is a good strategy,

but this is what he thinks is cool. When all I'm doing is I'm striking to protect my copyright. That's all I'm doing. And if you look at what YouTube came out with in January, you're not allowed to legally download anybody's show. But that's... That's for another lawsuit. He's so stupid and smug.

What he's talking about here? Because he never read the article. He just read the headline. If you read the article, it'll tell you that there's no way you have a lawsuit because the one attorney was looking for some kind of loophole where it's like, well, it's against YouTube's terms of service to download the videos and the way that they downloaded it. And therefore using it as clip. Like, it's neither here nor there. It's not against the law.

It's not to do with a lawsuit. It doesn't do with civil law. He's so stupid. He's just like, yeah, well, you downloaded my show. So I'm going to sue you. not. What he's doing with DMCA strikes against Shulie's channel is definitely against YouTube's terms of service. And because he's come out and said, he understands how fair use works. He's actually weaponizing it. And I believe that Shulie and the gang have a legitimate case. So I don't know why

he's talking about bringing on more lawsuits and being smug about it. He's really just the dumbest man to ever exist. All right, let's find out about John breaking his wrist. That I shattered my wrist so bad, it's broken in four places, four places. Cape Coral. So what they do is when you get into the emergency room, they want you to straighten out your wrist. So, but it was so painful. but in order to straighten out

they start putting a bunch of weights down here they have a thing here and they start putting more and more weight and because I'm the Duke and I have a high threshold of pain kept saying put more put more they put every weight they had

holy shit he's so stupid this isn't like bench pressing we were like come on let's go I can do more it's like no they just have to put enough weight that they need to put on in order to straighten out the bones so that they can match together and heal properly. I actually had this happen to me in us in fourth grade.

I broke my wrist, both bones across here, and it was not in a good place. So they had to, like, yank it and pull it back into place. It's very painful and it sucks. But what Chatt is saying here is so stupid, he's just like, come on, Doc, more weights. I can handle it. Is that all you got?

Right. Is it they'd be like, well, it's already fixed. But if you want us to, I guess, you know, I could also punch it. Yeah. Hey, Bula, get in here and sit on this. Yeah, right. They told me it was the most abuse and the most weight any arm had ever had. What happened to that bicept of his?

God, it got real tiny all of a sudden now that he's showing off his cast. So he wants to paint himself as being extremely tolerant to physical pain, but absolutely completely sensitive to any kind of verbal abuse. Correct. All right. That sounds like a great dating profile. He obviously is thin skin, because look at how bruised his biceptus over here. That's not good.

All right, so John plays a little game with us when we're trying to figure out how he broke his wrist. He goes, I'm going to give you two lies and a truth. So I've never heard of that game before. I've heard of two truths and a lie, but this is two lies and a truth. He's going to give us three different scenarios to decide which one is the reason why he broke his arm on Sunday. But before you give this one, I just want to point out real fast. We have all said for so long that whenever John is lying, he looks up and to the side. Just watch it play up.

Yep. And he also stammers and stutters when he's lying. So the first one, the troll showed up my house, started talking shit to me. I took care of business. And he looks a lot worse than I do. Scenario two.

Duke goes in a shower, comes out of the shower, slips, and falls. and here comes scenario three. Here it comes. Duke finally gets on his motorcycle to take a little cruise, some asshole trumper in a pickup truck cuts him off.

He flies over the handle bars and fucking breaks his arm. Okay. Yes. Which causes me to speak slower. Holy shit. He is so slow on this episode. So I like that in this scenario, these three scenarios. I like the one is like, only a Trumper in a pickup truck would want to run a motorcyclist off the road.

You know, those people who voted for Harris, they look in their reviews. You know, they're going to have the side mirror before they're ever changing lanes. Of course. It's just the Trump voters. Don't give a fuck. No, that's what they're known for. That is. That is what they're known for.

So John goes, which one do you think is the truth in these three scenarios? Well, we know it's not the troll showing up to his house and getting into a fight. It doesn't even make sense. It's not the type of injury you get from having a fist fight with a troll at your house. Though I would like to see that. Plus, it sounds hilarious. So if you think about these three scenarios, and Anthony's in the chat, he thinks it's a fourth one. We'll get into that.

If you think about these three scenarios, two of them would involve police reports. Yep. Right? And John wouldn't be able to shut up about police reports and dealing with the authorities on it and all these things. He calls the cops at the drop of a hat. Calls the cops because at Lisa Jordana is in his driveway. And he wants to play pool in his buddy's house. Chad Zumach leaves a note on the door and we get a week worth of shows.

Yes. But he beat up a troll who came to his house and he forgot to mention it. Right. It doesn't even make sense. But then John says, look, you know, rather than just tell us what happened, he wants to confuse us. And there's a specific reason for that. And he has to bring up the movie The Breakfast Club to explain it to us. What do you care?

You see us as you want to see us. And there we go. What do you care? What do you care? Any fucking scenario I give you, you're going to see it as the way you want to see it. You're going to do what all you fucking losers do. you're going to

write your own fucking conclusion. Now, what are those ones did happen? The only problem is you're going to make up whatever scenario you want because you don't give a shit

about the truth. You can't handle the fucking truth. Get some more movie tropes in there, John. I know. Isn't it amazing? This fucking guy. It talks about copyright all the time and playing

clips and then he's playing the breakfast club a major motion picture. While quoting a few good men. Right. It's like all of a sudden clips are okay, but only when he does that, it's short enough and illustrates his point, so it's okay. Now, people think that maybe there's another thing that happened. You know, that's why John's bringing up like, oh, you're going to come to your own conclusions. So this is the fourth scenario.

You're going to come up with whatever you want. So here's my fourth scenario. Fuck off. Because any fucking, if I told you and told you to God's honest truth, you're going to make up shit. Oh, John was drunk. John was drunk in a bar. You're going to make up any bullshit that you want because that's what you do. So this is the problem with what John's doing.

And Anthony's in the chat saying this exact thing. but if John would ever tell us what's actually going on in his life, we might believe him. If John didn't tell us he was working for an ad agency and writing a Pepsi commercial for the Super Bowl, when he was really teaching seven-year-olds about music theory, you know what I mean? Like, then maybe we'd be like,

well, if he told us he slipped coming out of the shower, he'd probably slipped coming out of the shower. Yep. But because he lies about everything all the time, and it always ends up coming out, he has a good excuse for a lie, don't get me wrong. You know, he's has a good reason.

Because he's always lying. That's why he was done to the conclusion that, like, maybe he got drunk and fell. Maybe he was staggering around somewhere. I'm new at the soap thing. I know. The fact that he'd even be near a shower. Right. Makes that unrealistic.

You know, John, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you one question. There was a day when you were living in Calabasas where you were the happiest we'd ever seen you. You were so proud because you had fixed your own turlid. and you gave a very long involved story about how you got this done. Everyone believed every word of it. No one questioned it. That we believe.

This we don't. Right. Very few details. You know, when it comes to any of these stories, there's nothing being told here. I mean, obviously,

no one thinks that a person showed up to his house or that he got to an accident on his Harley. The shower thing is possible. But none of these have any details or anything like that. So John's conclusion is like, why would he even tell us? Why should I tell you it? Why should I really tell you? Why?

Why? What good does it do? So he's admitting right there, it's probably none of those things. He's like, I'm going to give you two lies of the truth. And then he tells us those three things. And he goes, why should I tell you what happened? Then why did you even tell us at all? Right.

Yeah. Well, one reason would be to elicit sympathy and get superchats. Sure. Yeah. it's hard to put the victim. Why are you doing a show where you answer these questions? Why did you tell us all about it? Right.

Yeah. John does a show where he loves to talk about his life. He learned about it from Howard Stern. He's going to just be real with us. And then like something happens. He's off the internet for two days. He shows up. He broke his wrists and stuff.

He's got the photos from the hospital to prove it. And he's like, why the fuck should I tell you guys what's going on? I thought that was your show format, sir. I don't know. I thought you're incapable of lying. Your OCD won't let you lie. You have to tell the truth. And then we remember that thing you told us and bring it up to you and you get mad.

I don't lie. I don't like to lie. That's a good point. All right. So as we know, Rob Saul is back. We played in the first segment of this episode. Rob Saul is back doing his show again, the Rob Saul show. And he pops on John's show.

So Rob had Grillo on. Monday night grill says John's out of the devil verse. He's quit. He'll never be back. And then John's on his show the next night. And so Rob Stall's like, hey, I thought he quit. I'll hop on there and find out what's going on. And so again, Rob doesn't want to answer any questions.

So how you doing? So I brought you back. Well, I live back here. But, you know, I was just away in Florida doing a little teaser. No, what brought you back to podcast? Oh, brought me back. I'm back home. I had my, I planned on starting before I,

I went to Florida, but then I was out in Florida for a couple months. And, you know, I already had the podcast studio redone before I went to Florida. And I was planning on bringing in a friend of mine. She was going to co-host with me. And then, you know, I... But no offense, Rob, if you're back in Florida, why would you hit me up? You know, but I didn't want you. That's hilarious right there.

I think that's John's thought of this. Because I'm here, I'm like, Rob, what's the... the fuck does Florida have to do with anything? You can podcast from anywhere. What do you mean you had to go to Florida for two months of it? Stop me from doing a show you're going to do with this other part. Like, what do you, why would you just spit it out? What's going on?

Purposely not giving us the information that people are asking for. Well, a two months vacation. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah. No, John's not asking the questions. What were you doing in Florida for all those months? Why can't he ask them that? Oh, Florida.

My feelings are hurt. Exactly. John's first thought it's like, you could have been buying me dinner. Exactly. Why weren't you buying me beers at the pub, asshole? I was on the east coast of Florida. It's not that far. You could have made it over and visited me.

I don't know if you clipped it, but I think Rob did try hitting him up. Yes, he did. He didn't have the number correct because, you know, Rob's had to change his number multiple times because John's Doc Jim. Yes. One time.

Once. It's a whole thing. Rob, he's just absolutely the worst broadcaster. There's obviously a lot going on here. He just came back. He was gone for months. He won't tell us what's going on. This is a very easy question to answer, and he can't do it.

So you're good now? Is everything cool? What do you mean? Is everything cool with what? With life? Yeah, everything's good. I feel good. I, uh, you know, I'm, uh, you know, I'm doing good.

Jesus. The guy quit drinking, quit doing drugs, lost 25 pounds, has a fancy tan. There's no dogs in his lap. All these things have changed. It's like, so what's going on? I don't know. What's going on with you? What?

It's the worst guest ever. Yeah, he sounds ashamed of being of doing better. I didn't understand this at all. Yeah, I think he knows, and it's clear, John hates hearing that. He doesn't like that. Anything that's good for him

as a threat to John, and John's forced to put on his fake smile now that he has to do when he's seething inside. Right. It's uncomfortable. You still drink beer, right? Yeah, I understand. I don't do booze anymore, but beer's fine, right?

Or a hard seltter. So the question is, why are you back in the dabblerverse? You know, Rob went running from the dabbled verse. He tried to be the villain. He tried to play this character where he was the new Duke when John left. And then turns out there's everyone just hated him. He didn't really pay it to him. And he wasn't make any money doing that.

It kind of just sucked. And he embarrassed himself. So, yeah, why would you come back to the dabbler verse, Rob? So what brought you back to this shit hole? what the dabalverse yeah yeah i mean let's you don't get a choice i mean it's not like i said hey uh i'm coming back to the dabble verse i just hit go live on my youtube and the dabble verse comes that there you go

what happens you don't that you don't pick the dabble verse the dabble verse picks you boom that's retarded yep this guy could have started the show where he's just fingering dogs or whatever the fuck he's into like something that's passionate about has nothing to do with the dabble verse instead he comes on gets Grillo on the show immediately and then goes right on Suttering John's show and he's just like

why are you back in the devilverse? I am? You're on John's show. Surprise. Yeah. You're talking to Ava and John. You think he might be in the devilverse, Rob?

You're screaming Shulie New in Groucho Marx's glasses and a fake nose. He's like, how can I help it? It's out of my control. What do you mean? So stupid. So then John

also proclaims he doesn't want anything to do with the dabble verse either. The only problem, Rob, is like in this environment, like you said, just like when I go live, I don't want the devil verse, but they come to you. And they want to just trash you. And that's what this whole devil verse is about. Like they can't handle anyone being happy and trying to do something. All right.

I'm going to do the John thing real quick. If you guys don't mind. You can't have it both ways. John has $2 corky on the show. And $2. Korky is just like, my mission is to take down Carl and Shully.

And John's like, all right, let's go. He's like, yeah, fuck those assholes. We're going to take them down. And then John goes down and goes, I don't even want to be in the dabbled verse.

And I just, I don't know why people want to show people's parade. Everyone was just trying to have a good time. And then people just want to go out there and crush him. It's like, are you aligned with $2. Korky or not? Are you talking about Shulie and me and Anthony on every episode?

Or are you not? I don't want to be in the devilverse. Then why is the only topic of conversation shitwire and Lady Kay. Amen. What the fuck's he talking about? He can be talking about anything else and he refuses to. Are you implying that he's striking these channels because he doesn't like seeing these

podcasters happy and having fun? Trying things. Yes. 100%. That's what I'm saying. All right. Anyway, sorry. I just,

I did that you can't have it both ways speech. I feel dirty. I feel dirty for having done it. You were overdue. I know. It goes without saying, obviously. Oh, so, yeah, so Grillo got the news, or Grillo gave Rob the news that John was gone from the devil for. So what's up with that, John?

I went live and I saw a lot of people weren't on and somebody said, oh, John's live. And I'm like, what? Yesterday, Grillo was on my show and he said, John is done. He's quit. And I said, well, for how long? He goes, no, he's done for good this time. And now I'm on. I even had my name as the Duke on there.

Oh, no, Rob. That's, I told him to do that because I, she said, hey, you know, you're coming back. I just, I text them and said, just tell everybody I'm done. Oh, okay. Oh, boy. But now for you, just for all these, like shitware, without me, he's like, his heart's like, oh, no, oh, no, John's.

Oh, my God, John's done. What am I going to do? You know what I mean? Yeah. That's great. I love Ava gives no reaction. Rob just like, yeah,

yeah, well, John's living out one of these childish fantasies again. I told him girl to say that because I bet Shulie was freaking out having emergency meetings at the Shulie network and he's calling Frog and frogs.

He's like, get Mike Morris on the phone. What are we going to do? Get me Mike Morris. We shouldn't have been so mean to him, guys, we shouldn't have been so mean. If only we can go back.

Why do we run him off the internet? But this is John being a seven-year-old and having that fantasy. of like running away from home. And mom and dad were going to be like, oh, no, we shouldn't have grounded him. Oh, we miss him so much. Like that's, and he does this in real time.

And it's embarrassing his friends. His friends are like, yeah, John, I sure she was freaking out about it. Yeah, it didn't work. Good, the first seven times. Good prank. That's the other thing, too. It's like, John wants to be like,

why do you guys think I'm lying all the time? Because you lie all the time. Or maybe that was a prank. I don't know. Maybe that was something. He said, his logic went along the lines of like, of course you have to believe I'm leaving and not coming back.

I've done it so many times before. Right. Fault so wide about it, even more times than that. And come back so it's not leaving and not coming back. Right. He also conveniently forgot to mention that he told Grillo to tell everyone that he had a big job coming up. That's so big, he doesn't need the dabbled verse anymore. Because all of your lies to protect people and things also involve making yourself look great.

So you had to drop that in, make sure Grillo said it, and then forgot to say that you did. Yeah, I mean, that goes back to the example. I pointed out earlier where it wasn't just like I don't want people to know that I'm teaching at a school again. It was I'm also creating a commercial for Pepsi for the Super Bowl. It's like I worked in ad agencies. Like there's a lot of other tasks to be done than creating the Super Bowl commercial for Pepsi. Like that's so grandiose.

It's so retarded else. It's not happening in Fort Myers or Cape Coral. That's not where that's happening. One was a lie. One was truth. You fell for it. So Rob is great because Rob comes back. And he's just like, yeah, man, this dabbelverse thing, it's, it's crazy.

Like, I come on live and all of a sudden, Chad Zumach's coming after me. I don't know what this guy's problem is, but I'm back on my show and Chad Zumach is trashing the hell out of me. And by the way, Chad Zubak is fat and he's fucking not a good comic. And he should really just hang it up. I don't know what he thinks he's going to do. And he's a compulsive liar and a pathological idiot. He's like going out of that.

Like, hold on a second. Rob, do you not want to fight with Chad Zumach? Because he went off on him for like a good seven to the half minutes. Yeah, well, you know, the Dabovars chose me. That's what I mean. Like, these idiots act like they don't have any say in any of the stuff. Oh, yeah, well, what about you? It's like, it's like if Rocco was just like, look at, Tuki chose me as the Vassal, all right?

I mean, Tuky was going to be somewhere. I don't like to do the puppet. I don't enjoy it. I don't want to have Tuky soup. Actually, he probably has said all those things. Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah. All right, so Rob, Rob, though, Rob has changed. and he's going to let us know that

and John said something that's pretty funny here. Rob, I've defended you so many times. And I'm, you know, and believe me, I'm not a perfect person and I've done some pretty heinous shit on the internet that I'm not proud of. And, you know, I am one of the main reasons for leaving and trying to get myself together

is watching myself on shows, making a drunken fool of myself. And that's just not the guy I want to be. That's already out there. I can't get rid of it. You live and learn. You make mistakes. The only thing I could do is move forward

and try to change the person I am now. Awesome. John was not paying attention to that. He was tuned out. Not one word. Oh, you can become a better person and going forward. Stop being a drunken buffoon on the internet that humiliates themselves. Yeah.

He's not paying. Any attention to that. And also, is Kate Meaney watching this? Do you realize, like, you can't take it back once you do stuff on the Internet? People know about it. He's kind of, like, try to be a better person going forward, live and learn. I mean, I appreciate what Rob is saying. I feel like he's learned a real lesson, although he's not handling himself great.

He's in the high would have done it very differently than what he's doing. And also, Rob, you're welcome. Yes. From all of us to all of you. Of course. So John will never learn when someone's just like, yeah, I quit drinking. and I'm trying to be a better person. John's like, well, I guess that's fun for some people.

Not for me. Anyway. Wow. A lot of Rob Sell content on the show today. Jesus Christ. Wait for Davenvers live tomorrow. Should we be talking more about Rob Saul? With your host, Rob Saul.

Yeah, right. I should ask him actually. He wants to be on. There you go. It's a funny idea. That'll be tomorrow at 3 p.m. on who are these podcasts channel. Blind Mike had to go an hour earlier.

So we'll be on a 3 p.m. Eastern. dabble verse live tune in for that all right let's get into the game everyone's been waiting for is it weird or is it gay what will let us say today is it gay welcome megan hello hello good to see you and annie good to see you oh hello oh hello gosh this this this Vegas thing is coming up we are all going to be hanging out in Vegas together very soon which is excited I'm so excited. Me too.

Hackamania.com. If you can't be there, stream it, watch the shows. We're going to have a blast. And one thing we'll definitely be doing in Vegas at Who Are These Podcasts live on Saturday night is playing. Is it Gay?

We'll probably bring some people up from the audience to play along with us. Yeah, we'll get some. Do we get to guess whether they're gay or straight? Yes. That is the new game. That is the new Is it gay. The way this game is played is we watch Aaron Imhol set up some type of subject

and then try to figure out if he's going to, going to call it gay or not because Aaron lacks creativity or wit. And so he thinks that comedy is calling things gay. Round one is worth one point as of the next four rounds after that. And then we have a bonus round or a final round worth three points. Let's go. And the police did not like that. They were fine with smashing in his door.

They were fine drawing guns in his home. But they weren't okay with him making a silly song about it. And so they sued him. embarrassed themselves in court, had to talk about their divorces. One of the deputies' ex-wives testified, but for Afro-Man. Oof. So they put themselves through this, and ultimately, Afro-Man decked out in the coolest red, white, and blue American flag shirt suit that, by the way, only black people are allowed to wear.

Is it gay to wear a loud suit as a white man? Adam Yeah Carl I don't think it's gay I'm gonna say no Chris Gay

Annie I think it's gay I'm the only one saying not gay All right let's go Loud dressing in suits is the gayest fucking twink thing you can do

if you're a white man Aaron I give you the better You know I think he's talking about what Nick or Kata That's a good point. I should have piece that together. You know, once again, I gave Aaron the benefit of the doubt, and he screwed me over.

This is what ruined our relationship in the first place. All right. I'm on my heels. This is round number two. I'm going to say the lead guy on wanting to monitor people's farts is an Asian dude, 100%. We'll then benefit our health and how people around the country are now helping to collect this data. Yes, he is. actually. Can you believe that? You'll see, Annie.

You'll see it. Dr. Brantley Hall's lab looks more like a factory these days. Multiple 3D printers running, creating this. It's about the size of a nickel, and it goes on your underwear. Oh, it goes right in your asshole. Oh. So I'm just farting on a button. And that button's going to analyze and judge

me every time I'm like, like, I am the amalgamation of my farts? Is it gay to have your farts monitored with a button. Annie. No, that seems like a healthy decision. Chris. I'm going not gay. Carl.

It's gay. Adam. The way he's clutching his pearls right now is gay. Yeah. You're going gay on that, Adam? I sure am. I mean, it has to do with the butt. I know.

Everything with the butt's gay with this guy. This seems really grubhing. This just seems like a big old practical joke. Son of a bitch. All right. That's not my day. Round three. Coming up and is it gay. I think third world immigration might be dangerous to our English culture.

Oh no. Oh shit. He's got a brain virus. Somebody get them. I think the child grooming gangs is a problem and we ought to nip that in the bud with all these mozzies come in here grooming our 14 year olds. Oh, no, I think he's got meningitis, bro. I think they all have a taste of it. You think so? Well, can they call it the windshield of your car, the windscreen? Who the hell does that? Is that a good?

They call it the boot? They do call it to boot. But they came up with all that shit first, so technically. Is the English term of calling the trunk of a car the boot, gay, Adam? Yeah, sure, whatever. Adam did it do this. This is my carmick thinks he can do accent. because it's shit like this.

Yeah. I'm going to say, yes, it's gay. Chris. Gay. Annie. I think it's gay.

All right. I don't think it's gay. He doesn't make it less gay. It's pretty gay. It's pretty gay. Broadcast school. It really paid off. Jesus Christ.

I think it's gay. I agree. It's gay. Good show, guys. Good. is there. All right, round four. I'm finally on the board. That's neat. I don't you guys care about me.

We got, so Daddy liked the chocolate milk, did he? Apparently. But he also liked like Lafemniquita. He thought... I know a lot of people that liked that show. What was... I can't remember what her name was, but he liked that cold Russian bitch on Lafemniquita.

He liked all the girls in Charmed. My dad watched Charmed Religiously. I think my dad either had a thing for Amy Brennan or Time Daily because he really liked judging Amy. Or Mr. M. Holt's taste in 90s television gay. Annie? Not gay.

Chris. Not gay. Carl. Was Charmed Alyssa Milano? Yeah. Not gay. Definitely not gay. Adam.

Was Tyne Daily, Gypsy? I'm going gay. All right. And steal a point. My dad, now that I look back on it, boy, did he like some old gay shit. What? He said, what the fuck? I've been jerking up to gay stuff all this time.

This is how I find out. Is it gay? Wow. Son of a bitch. All right. How do you feel about that? I feel terrible. I never felt worse.

I feel confused. You're still in the game, Carl. Come on. Buck up. I got to look at the rest of the staff on Charged staff. There's the cast on Charmed, I guess. Round five coming up. This is worth one point.

What are the scores right now, producer, Chris? Three-way tie with three, and then there's you. Then there's me. All right. This is where, like, as I get older, I'm becoming less of, like, a conservative Republican. Because it's like, this is where liberals maybe have a point on some forms of limits and regulations because like you shouldn't be allowed to do that to somebody. That should be illegal.

That should be wrong. You shouldn't be able to see some brain dead dipshit who's been underserved educationally. Doesn't know what he's getting himself into. You know what you're getting him into. You know it's bad for him, but you go, well, need to make my sales quota this month. That should be illegal. Sell into a guy like that. That shouldn't be right.

Landers says predatory lending. 100% it's predatory. I mean, is there a word worse than predatory? Is there a word? Is it gay to overcharge for a used Mercedes when you view your customer as a brain-dead dip shit? We're talking about John buying his car? Yeah, it was a whole story of a guy buying a used Mercedes. Yeah, okay.

Aaron thought he was being overcharged. So, uh, Adam? I'm going not gay. Carl. I think it's not gay. Chris. Not gay. Annie.

I think it's gay. All right. Annie's trying to pick up a point here. Let's see. Rapey. These are, that's a rapy lending. Fong you dude says, did he say, all right. Not gay was the answer.

All right. is going into the final round worth three points three way tie with four then there's you well hold on a second Annie just got that one wrong how many points does he have what do you mean Annie got that one wrong she said she said it was gay oh I'm sorry

yeah two way tie me and Adam with four and I have two yes sir so I'm within striking distance god damn it I told you you're in the game shut up the way that this round works shut up the way that this round works is it will not be just is it gay we'll have a three different choices to choose from and this is worth three whole points

and this is very important for all of us we don't care about what happened the rest of the episode we don't care about interviewing people we only care about winning is it gay i haven't had a beer in months like i had an old-fashioned on valentine's day and before that i think maybe new years was the last time i had any alcohol and i was just sitting there like you know i'm kind of on a streak and I kind of don't want to break the streak. So I passed on it. I passed on the having of beer yesterday while I was clean in the house. I was like, it's going to make me feel bloated.

I'm going to get tired. I don't want to. I will. I'll have another one at some point, but just when I feel like it. And these other guys were talking about how much they drank, and one of them's 35. The other one was like 50. And they're talking about how, like, yeah, if I really go out and tie one on, I'll have about 20.

I'm like, Jesus! By the way, this conversation was happening in a sauna at the gym. So. Cool. Everyone does not get out much. When he does get out, he talks about it a lot. I know. All right.

How many beers does Aaron think it means to go nuts? Three, five, or six? Adam Five Carl Yeah five was my instinct too He's trying to talk about how he doesn't really drink I'll go three

Chris Man I'd hate to see him bloated But I'll go with six Any I think it's five All right Let's find out I think that having five is like

Fucking I'm going nuts tonight I'm having five I might pass the fuck out. Congratulations to congratulations to Adam, who wins that one. Well done, sir.

I feel great. I can tell you for like a million bucks. Great game, Megan. Thank you. Putting that together, as always. Tripped me up. I'll tell you that. Speaking of games,

Simon, from the worst ever podcast, comes in with a sports edition of the Opie or Burr game. Hello and welcome. I'm your host Simon from the worst ever podcast, and today I have a special edition, a sports edition of Opier Burr. Let's play. Round one. You know, LeBron had a chance to stay with the Cavaliers, but he went for the, you know, the lights of Hollywood and the nice weather. And now he's just hanging out on a shitty team, basically. Yeah, I know they won a championship. in the bubble, but most people don't look at that as a real championship. It'll count in the end for him.

Time to register those votes. Producer Chris. Burr. You think that's a burr? You know, I'm off on this. Opie talks basketball. Bill talks hockey. Okay.

So based on that, I'm going to go Opie. What do you think, Adam? Ooh. I am going to go burr because it had like specific. knowledge of how the game is played generalities. Good point. Annie? I'm going to go with Burr.

And Megan. I'll go Burr. All right. Everyone thinks it's Burr about me. I stink. Stick. And here's the answer. You know, LeBron had a chance to stay with the Cavaliers, but he went for the, you know, the lights of Hollywood and the

nice weather. And now he's just hanging out on a shitty team basically. Yeah, I know they've worn. A championship in the bubble, but most people don't look at that as a real championship. It'll count in the end for them. Winning the NBA finals is for losers. Let's play. Round two.

I have not watched one second of football in two weeks. I watched the Pat's highlights. I've been super busy, you know, with the kids and all of that. Time to register those votes. Megan wants to you. Burr? Annie? I think it's Opie. Adam.

I'm going with Opie. God, if this is Opie, that's an amazing misdirect. I think it's Bill Burr. Producer Chris? Opie. Why would Opie care about watching the pets? He likes the Jets, the Bills, and I forget the other team that he likes. Maybe it's the Pats.

Fuck me. I forgot me. I left in Boston for a while. All right, let's sign out. And here's the answer. I have not watched one second of football in two weeks. I watched the Pat's highlights. I've been super busy, you know, with the kids and all of that. Because my kids are actually alive.

Let's play. Round three. I saw this thing on the NBA draft, which really interests me. So, of course, we all know the NBA is fucking fixed. We all know that that Luca Donchich, whatever his fucking name is. was not making the NBA enough money in Dallas. Time to register those votes.

PC. Burr. I'm going burr. What do you think, Adam? Burr. Annie? Burr. Megan. I mean, I was going to go Opie

because you already talked about basketball with him. So I'm going to go Opie. You're going to go Opie? So the reason why there's an exception is because he said fucking twice. That's my key. This one's Bill Burr. But he was bitter about money and that's Opie. That's true.

Let's find out. And here's the answer. I saw this thing on the NBA draft which really interest me. So, of course, we all know the NBA is fucking fixed. We all know that that Luca Donchich, whatever his fucking name is, was not making the NBA enough money in Dallas. That's why I only watched the WNBA. Let's play round four.

You know all the Bill Belichick haters are now all over this going. See, he needs Tom Brady. Time to register those votes. I think that's the Opster. What do you think, Megan? I was going to go Burr. Adam? Opster.

Annie. Oobster. P. PC. Oh. All right. Let's find out. And here's the answer.

You know, all the Bill Belichick haters are now all over this. Don't see. He needs Tom Brady. Only losers need partners to succeed. Well played, Simon. Yeah, Josh from Jersey says, Patriots equals Burr. I know that was, I think the.

misdirect attempt right there. Bill Belichick you'd think Brady, you think he's talking Bill Burr. Babble, babble, babble, babble. What are the scores right now? Producer Chris? We can't catch you. You are four for four.

Crushing a bunch of twos and a one. Let's keep it going then. Let's play round five. But if they're calling her white bitch, then, you know, fair is fair. then she should be able to, you know, you know, drop the nuclear bomb.

Time to register those votes. Oh, that's an interesting one. And here's the answer. Oh, my God. I thought I hit the pause button. I didn't. Whoof. Where was that when she was giving out her home number

and her address? Oh, shit. That's what I got right away. I got to go for it. That was amazing. We'll start with producer Chris. Opie. Megan.

Opie. I think it's Opie. Annie. Burr. Adam. I'm down with O.P. All right. Annie's the only one who's got Bill Burr. Let's find out.

But if they're calling her white bitch, then, you know, fair is fair. Then she should be able to, you know, you know, drop the nuclear bomb back. It worked for Kramer. Congratulations to whatever white bitch won this week. This is Simon for the worst ever podcast reminding you to vote for Carl. Thank you, Simon. So it's great. Thanks, Simon.

So it does a great job with that game. I like it a lot. We'll figure out a version of that for Hackamania, for sure. That was five for five for five. I just want to point out. Sunflower Dragon is here with five bucks. That Karen Feldman interview was compelling, great job. I agree.

I was very interested in what she was going to have to say. And another person who John knows a lot of money to. Yeah. Go figure. $40,000. Yikes. Adam, what do you get coming up? What do you want to promote on the show today?

Before I promote something, I just want to remind people, think to your mind. Think to yourself. what would the producer of one too many from that many years ago look like and be doing right now? Like what did you expect? Did you expect it to be like the Sony gates and like this top floor office and all these cigars and like very limited time in between projects? If you haven't spent a lot of time into Hollywood, that's exactly, exactly right. And Chad Zumach of all people plugged the show today because he said we were covering Rob Saul and he hoped we did a good job with us. That's hilarious.

Thanks, Jeff. He's only doing it because we would never plug him ever. We wouldn't do it. So I'm going to encourage everyone to watch Tuki Soup whenever you can. That's right. Very good. Annie, we're going to find you. They can find me on Twitter.com.

And if they want help setting up their super tips, reach out to me. Give me a DM at Insanity, InS, A-N-N-E-I-T-Y-Y. You really want to do that for people? I'm going to give it a shot. See how it goes? I have a weird passion for like setup talk, tech talk and stuff like that. And Moody is working on a super tip helper program. And I'm going to help beta test that so we can get it out to people to make it even easier for them to use it on streamyard.

Oh, that's fantastic. That's very cool that you do that because I'm just listening to Gorillow and all the people he needed to help him set that up. I'm like, oh, God, there's no way I'd want to get involved in that. But it's nice of you to do that. The Supertip system is very important. Saving the Dabbleverse, as we all know. And no one's using at Supertip.G slash WATP. I'm kidding, of course.

Megan, you always check out the comments we get on Spotify. Yes. You can comment on individual episodes, and Megan's always there seeing what people are writing to let us know what's up. I got a lot of wonderful comments this past week. So thank you all. You asked for it?

Yes, they were very funny. But I only grabbed a couple. mostly show-related. From episode 710, the jacked-up review show, Slow Dancer says Brendan Shob's album was still better than the WATP music episode.

What? That's outrageous. Slow Dancer, how dare you? We have D-Tave-76 saying, When I heard Mario Bosco try to say Amityville, I almost choked on a sip of water

because all I heard was Enimaville. Am I a psycho or did you miss it? Megan is beautiful. Thank you. You don't have to write that. She'll still read your comment, but it's always appreciated it. Maybe.

And then I was listening to episode 7-11. The, what was it called? The one about Magic the Gathering. Yeah, that was the soul ringers. That was fun. Yeah, it was fun. Necrodes said Can't believe Welfare Queen

Maddox is wasting his snap benefits on magic cards. That's crazy. I don't know anything about card games, so. All right, let's play cards. I don't know we can call Magic the Gatherer a card game per se.

It's like Texas Hold'em or anything else. Yeah, yeah, there's a table for that. It's her table. Yeah, right. Bring your own deck out. No problem, though. Annie, you probably play a little magic. No, that's the one card game I didn't get into.

Okay. I was into Yu-Gio as a kid and I got into Pokemon as an adult, the card game. Never got into magic. What brain is the game to play if you're into card games? Yeah. We all know that. Dr. Steve, of course, will be joining us in Vegas at Hackamania. Correct.

Should probably do something with him. Yeah. You know, it's not going to be here much longer. Jesus. She's probably hang out with him for a minute. Yes, that is the plan. Anyway, any new reviews. No. So I encourage people if they aren't on Spotify to leave a review or go update your old one.

Yes, we always appreciate that. When you give us five stars and shit all over us, we have fun with that. We get to read them on the show. It helps the algorithm. It makes people think that people are listening to our show and then it matters. So listen to some voicemails coming in on the Gary and San Diego voicemail line. It's a bunch of crap. Swing in a minute. Rock and roll. Cow photographer calling it. Carl, Kyle Fonker. I was listening to your light. I think it's the latest episode. I think I'm caught up now, Star Wars. And it made me think of Red Loder Media's recent Star Wars trivia.

And I used to be a huge Star Wars fan. And watching that trivia, I was like, I don't know if anything about Star Wars anymore. And I was kind of proud of myself. Just wondering if you had a chance to watch that Red Lutter Media, Star Wars trivia, and if you had the same experience, go fuck yourself. No, but I definitely would. I'm not keeping up on Star Wars very well at all. Hey, Carl, a long time no talk.

Uh, if you would, yeah, let's go to the cows and let's just do a regular show. Let's just go back. Hell, fucking Cobra Commander, you know, silly voices. Ha, ha, ha, funny. You know, it'd be great to do that. But at the same time, fuck you, Doug. Shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're saying.

All right. See you. Don't call me back. Sorry, the guy who did the Cobra Commander voice is no longer out of the show, sir. Yes. Sorry to break the news to him. How did dog offend this guy? Oh, fuck, Doug.

How did dog offend you? He's an asshole. Go fuck himself. I see both sides of this. I like it. Paco calling it. Yeah, what's up, Carl? This is Paco.

I was listening to your show on Saturday, and I just want to say, you didn't get enough for what you say. You know the part where you're like, yeah, I got three reasons why John would want to be friends with me. And then you go, I'm a bureau. I want to him.

dude that I couldn't stop laughing man I don't think you got enough for that dude thanks buddy I'm fucking I don't know that shit was good uh shout out to pet smart all right bye shout out to pet smart thanks bacco um every day again I get a couple of men on the voice bad line not very often my speech therapist just called it oh chompers chompers chompers you buck tooth smile talking stubfoot have an ass lovable dunderhead speech therapist here. I can tell that you're not doing your drill that we worked on. So, first of all, X specially.

There's no K, there's no X. It's just especially. You should probably go watch a documentary on philanthropists. Oh, boy. It's just philanthropy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Also, Flintez, got a dip song in his name.

You always say, Fuentes. I don't know why you separate those vowel sounds. You know, shout out to Cripple Jesus. Love you. Love the show. Shout out to Cripple Jesus. Holy shit. I miss him. If he's listening to the show today, boy, I've had some wild ones.

I made a bunch of words of the show today. Producer says, yeah, I know. It's been around. You're a real ingenuous fairy. Fuck off, everyone. Hi, I'm Cripple Jesus. and you're listening to Who Are These Podcast? I miss Crippled Jesus. He was great.

My speech therapist calls it again. Chomper's speech therapist again. Got a little brain teaser for you. Paradox. So how's it possible for someone with such an alarming lack of shoulders to carry your show? Boom, Rosed it. Shout out to Paco, you know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying.

Steely Dan's been a topic of conversation on the show. Go away. Gotta go. There's a Steely Dan story coming in. Yeah, I'm calling about Steely Dan. I don't really have a take on them. Both of my parents love them. My parents been divorced for like 100 years.

Anyway, I went with my mom to the Steely Dan show, probably like 10 years ago in Detroit, Ty Knob sitting on the hill. I had a nice little buzz. Sure enough, my fucking dad's drunk ass comes stumbling by, and she was just so disgusted. Look at him, drunk as usual. Shit was fucking awesome.

So, Philly Dan's cool for that story alone. Anyways, all right. It sounds like your team mom, if I had to guess. I know everybody's calling $2, Dan. corky, for some reason, I can't get out of my head once I thought of it. He looks like the legendary Arbe Villeshays. He has that hat on and those sunglasses. He does...

In Boston Plains. All right. This is interesting about Jack Tover. In between WATP and Creeposs and all that, I've been looking at some Jocktobers. And to hear Opie talk about... Oh, these shows do nothing. He ranted on a show in Wisconsin that was talking about pizza delivery and about how these shows talk about nothing. And they just, oh, he should have been a big radio star way before he was.

Now he's reverted back to it. And everybody go to The Creepoff, vote for Carl. Vinny that fat fuck hasn't done his goddamn consequence yet. Go. He's trying to worm out of it, too. Vote for me. Patreon.com slash The Creepoff. Yeah.

Oh, we would make fun of all these morning shows. It would just... Babble, babble, babble. And that's all he's got now. Send me some of those. I want to find them. I want to put together some of those. That would be great to hear.

The Jack Talber stuff, yeah. Just him being like that about things he's completely different. Yeah, email that to us. Hey, this is the Mormon wizard from Colorado. I just wanted to call him about the bonus episode. It's been when John talks about how he pisses in a sprite can and then keeps it overnight and then spills it all over himself. And we'll still say he's not a whack packer.

I don't know that makes sense. Anyway, never kill yourself. All right, thank you. I won't. Yeah, that was a very interesting bonus episode we did on Patreon or on our YouTube page. If you subscribe to that, we did a living in the past considering John. Some great segments on there. And people are enjoying it.

Hey, Carl. This is Lance in Tennessee. and this is a plug for the Patreon. Listen to the most recent living in the past and you bring up a question that I can't get out of my mind now. Does Gino take off the bandana

during sex? I need to know. I mean, I could text Chiato and ask her but that she'll tell Kevin Brennan. He keeps it on and adds a cape. I cannot imagine how his hair smells. Yeah, he can't take it off. It's already Italian, so, yeah.

There's also another tiny little bandana. It's his emergency bandana. That's good stuff. Let's get the fuck out of here. I got to go. Bye. I got to go. I got to go.

I got to go. I got to go. Okay. Bye. Carl. I love you. Are we down here? I think we are.

Go fuck yourselves. have a good week. All right, everybody. You know, this was a great podcast. It was very revealing. That was a great episode. That was really great. Man, that was a good episode.

I was a good episode. I enjoyed that. Okay, bye. Now it's funny again. Thank you. Please clap. I force the broad breaks. I force them.

Some people earn them. I force them.