Who Are These Podcasts? - Ep716 - Financial Audit, Grillo, Stuttering John, Opie, Burr, $2 Corky, Keanu

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

We start off with the fattest and most obnoxious guest to ever appear on Financial Audit with Caleb Hammer. Sarah is obese and very, very dumb. With that said, what’s going on with Caleb’s show? Is any of this even real? It all seems like an amateur improv act. However, it is funny when they make her stand on a scale.  After Kevin Brennan excels as our Cringe of the Week, Bill Burr tells us about how he has a new bit in his stand-up set talking about being nice to his wife. Steve Grillo partnered with John’s friend Vegas Beer Sales Jerry and it could not have gone worse for him. Chaunce Hayden joins his show and calls StutJo a loser alcoholic who has lost everything. John’s not gonna like that. Keanu Thompson cried on Hughezy’s show because being mean to people is not cool unless she’s being mean to people she currently doesn’t like. John’s new cohost, $2 Corky, debated Lucy Tightbox and got destroyed. Lucy then joins our show to go into a deep dive on $2 Corky and his history bullying a guy named Patrick Tomlinson. Opie is so excited that Howard Stern is getting sued, he inserts himself into the story like only Opie can. Stuttering John has reached a new level of pathetic. How is he the victim when he's the one who brought a lawsuit to Shuli and me?? Watch this episode here: https://youtu.be/QHB3FdpnnDQ Support us, get bonus episodes, and watch live every Saturday and Wednesday: ⁠http://bit.ly/watp-patreon⁠ ⁠https://watp.supercast.tech/⁠ Come to Hackamania! April 10-12 in Las Vegas, use promo code WATP for 10% off – https://hackamania.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Kevin Brenning gets laughed at by Bob Levy. Bill Burr has a new bit about being nice to his wife. Steve Grillo gets major pushback working with Vegas beer sales, Jerry, and has Chaunty Hayden on to give his take on Stuttering John. Opie was contacted for comment about Howard Stern's lawsuit from a major media outlet. Keanu balls or eyes out on. Husey show. $2.

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And, of course, financial audit is the show. where people are behind on their rent or mortgage and they have credit card debt piling up and they need help. How do I get out of this debt? How do I write my life, stop spending frivolously and start saving money? And Caleb's the guy who's going to sit down with you and go, here's how you do it. He's real good with the straight talk, real good with the no bullshit. This show has, it's morphed.

It's morphed into something that I don't think it used to be, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I used to enjoy this show because he would have people who were like really dumb. didn't understand how finance has worked. And he just said, I'd be like, well, yeah, yeah, you can't spend that much money. You don't make that much money. You know, that's kind of how this whole thing works. Well, lately, and I mentioned his name on a show recently, an herb beta patched said, oh, there's been some great episodes lately. He sent me a few.

And there's this one with Sarah, 27 years old. And she talks about how much money she makes. But then, so she has a sales job. She talks about how much money she makes at her sales job. And it fluctuates because there is. commission involved. But then she explains there's there's more to it than just what she's making in sales. Four thousand hours. How are you surviving that at all? Um, well, I have outsourced, if you will. And outsourced to what? A sugar daddy. I don't think she understood what outsource

means, but she says I make $4,000 roughly a month in my sales job. Then I have a sugar daddy for additional income. Uh, so there's a lot to unpack here. and Caleb's going to do a great job doing that. One of the things I've noticed on this show, the production has got very weird. They're doing a lot of, like, visuals and throwing in clips and stuff like that. Sugar, Daddy.

And you clearly consume a lot of sugar, so... You're one to talk. Girl, we're not on the same level. Let's go bar for bar. BMI. Okay, so this is where the hostility begins. And it seems like Caleb fights with everyone who comes out here now. This show has turned into somewhere

between the Howard Stern show and Jerry Springer. Yeah. And the reason I say that is because Jerry would never confront the guests. He would let the audience do that, but he would mostly just bring them on, explain their story. But you'd bring people on that people wanted to mock and ridicule. And that's what Caleb does. He brings people to people on mock and ridicule. He's more like Howard Stern is that he'll go after them directly and tell what a piece of shit they are, which he does.

But he's not like Morton Downey Jr. because he hates them. He really hates them. Oh, that's actually a good point. Yes. That goes back a little bit further. on our references, but yeah, that's a good point. So it's on after the, the fat jokes begin.

Well, all I will say this, I'm sitting at this desk and my stomach isn't trying to leap onto the fucking table. I'll just say it makes sense that you made a cookbook. I can't imagine there's anything else. It's a healthy cookbook. Then you're clearly not using it. That's why you haven't looked inside to know what's there.

Have you heard of the gin? Uh-huh. Who are you talking to? Do you go? Who are you? Look at you. I'm just saying if you're going to say, something about me, we're going to talk about you.

You can, but we're just on such different levels. Like, no offense. Not really. Girl, listen. Yeah, you tucked it in and hit it now because I mentioned it. And that's something I've never had happened in the history of my life. First of all, I've never had a stomach try to escape my literal clothing. So you see we're off to a bad start here.

He seems to be concerned about this young lady's weight. When are we going to get to the finances? It's funny. There's very little finance talk on this episode. It's mostly that just insulting each other. And if she weren't so fat, she'd have other issues that Kail would be concerned about. I mean, first of all, there's a flavor for every... What?

Is it my arms? It has to do with your arms. The sleeves? No. My tattoos? No, it's what's on the tattoos. Where? Trying to crawl towards me.

My hair? This is very hairy. Okay. So he points out that she has very long arm hair. And so she gets a rib back at him. And I want you to listen to the reaction in the room. Now, of course, Caleb is very successful. He's got a big staff of people. And it's a big production that they're doing for his show. And so you can tell that the people are watching and enjoying. Okay. It's really crazy to talk about hair when it looks like your beard can't connect. So have you ever going to be? I don't know. That was actually good. That was actually a good one. Thank you very much.

Sounds like his staff was waiting for someone to room it back a little bit. They had a little bit too much pleasure from that. It sounds like that was the whole point of this and having her on was for this to happen. Yeah. For them to just have a back and forth because, uh, listen, Caleb's not that fat. Compared to Sarah here, he is right. They're at different levels. Unless I'm mistaken, he's recently lost a significant amount of weight.

I think so. Yes, I think he's looking better than he used to. And, you know, as soon as you lose weight, you start fat shaming just as fast as he can. Oh, yeah, it's fun. For sure. Finally? Look at Vinny Paulino. Holy shit.

He lost like 30 pounds and we started the show called Weight Watchers. It's just like, I start making fun of faddies now. All right, Vinny, I mean, slow down there, buddy. There's more than 30 pounds. Shut up, Vinny. I know. So she goes on to explain that she has both her husband and a sugar daddy. And here's, uh, here's the big review.

deal. So part of the reason I'm out here at this specifically is I needed a good excuse to come to Austin to meet the Sugar Daddy. He's here. He already exists. Yes. Let me see this man. Yes. Of course he's not going to be on camera. Well, no. I feel you're going to judge him. Yes. Why is he so desperate? He's old. Wow. Yeah, but he's not like ugly. It's the thing. First of all, desperate is crazy. No, it's not. There are people that are attracted to... No, there's not. What the fuck is happening?

This guy's getting cussed. But he doesn't even... He's a... Okay, the dude's like a bearded, tatted, dude. Looks like a genuine normal dude. What the fuck is happening here? Okay, I... How the fuck?

So you rolled down to Austin to get some Asian old sugar. I'm a little confused. What the fuck are you giving to him? I mean, what am I not? Okay, exactly. So he's confused because this whale shows up, starts showing photos on her phone of this old Asian guy that she's fucking, or I mean, the sugar daddy, I should say. Did they say he was Asian? Did they?

Yeah, Caleb just did, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, so it's like an older Asian gentleman. And then her husband's just like this normal bearded, tatted up dude. And so he's like, what is going on? What is the attraction here? I don't understand it. and something happens during this show that's never happened before on financial audit.

And it's quite revealing of this woman's lifestyle. Because he has no problem taking the allowances. What do you mean allowances? I give him an allowance of $300. You give him an allowance. Yes. Yeah. Interesting.

Oh. Oh, that's mine. Okay. I'm not from here. And so I really didn't know what to get. So I got it. Come on. Oh, is that just door-dashed?

Yes. I didn't have time to stop before I got here. There's such a f***ing beast. This is one of them for anyone else in here. I'm only going to want one. I just don't know which one I want. Oh, my fuck. Dude, you're actually insane.

So DoorDash shows up with three big coffees. And it's very revealing that she's like, well, I'm not sure which one I'll like. So I'll just order three and drink the one that I like. I would think from a financial standpoint, that would be a bad decision. vision. Oh, I forgot this was a financial show. You're right? Yeah, the show is about her finances. Now she's a debt and could barely afford her lifestyle or can't afford a lifestyle. Her grammar lends her money, apparently. Well, that's sad. It is very, very, very, um, like bad improv and heavily edited and very different from the show it used to be where things kind of played out and he got to actually be funny. This is like, they're going to hit the same beats every week with different people. Yeah. I know what you mean. And it's, he doesn't come off. well on these shows me just goes after people for their appearances and like this woman should be ridiculed don't get me wrong if i was there i'd also be ridiculing her but i'm also not a financial advisor so i got a guy who lasted jerks on the internet so that would be like appropriate for me to do that

but he's just turned to do a guy just come in and i'll just rib you for the whole some good natured ribbing the whole time you sit across from me it feels like there's writers or it feels like they rehearsed or there was like improv they, you know, liked and decided to do again on camera. I didn't get that sense. I know what you mean. I didn't get that sense watching the whole episode through. Because it does like build, you know, at first it's just kind of like, you know, you're kind of fat. And then they kind of gets more and more interesting as it goes.

But she's kind of dumb. And he does point that out here. What is on? Oh, my God. No, you're obnoxious to talk to so far. Sorry if I'm being too rude, but what the fuck? I have not just answered a question. You must go through microphones regularly with those decibels.

Anywho, he just... How microphones work, you fuck. They can't get busted out over sound? This? With a loud noise? Are you fucking stupid? Anyhow, hold on. You see, to be very clear, you see what you're doing so far.

You haven't answered the question. Okay. Well, let me get a sip of this coffee and then we'll talk about it. So she thought that you could break a microphone. microphone by yelling you do it too loud. It's neat. Yeah. That's funny.

It used to be the peak of the show when Jack Benny would take off his glasses and get all exasperated and look at the audience. Like, I can't believe it? How many more times can you do that? Yeah, I know. It happens throughout the whole hour and a half long episode of this where it's just like, can you believe this woman? It's like, yeah, yeah, at this point. We can believe it for sure.

Zoinks. Yeah. All right. So she reveals the issues she has with her husband. Her husband does not work. He's trying to be a video. game streamer. So she's the breadwinner. And

fortunately, for her husband, she's finding other ways to make money. Have you told him he needs to get his shit together? Yes. Because you've told him what's going wrong and what you don't like, but if you told him what you need to see as a partner. Yes.

And you've been buried how long? Five years. Okay. And you are going to go sleep with an Asian. Today. With an old Asian man, two day. Right after filming. this? Or last night? Are you serious? So this has already been done. The cheating

has already happened. And what did you get? How much money? A couple thousand? Whoa. What the fuck? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. There are attractive women in Austin that would love a couple thousand dollars. What the fuck? But they're not me.

Like, so you personally, that's what I am advocating for. So, Kayla's big issue with this is that she would get $2,000 to sleep with someone. That can't be, right? I've seen high-priced prostitutes before. They're in good shape, usually. There's like a word for this. He seems to have that kink where you like torture the person with money.

It's like a thing. Yeah, that is a thing. Yeah. I think this guy has it, clearly. You're right. He does like humiliating these people that come on. So she's got this sugar daddy he calls him. But basically, he just,

just a John. He pays her $2,000 to fuck him. And it's going to go beyond that as far as the perks go in this relationship. We have a relationship. He likes me as a person. Plus, he's going to pay for me to get the BBL and the weight loss surgery. BBL. Absolutely. Your entire body's a BBL. Who's a bad. Stacked on itself? Huh? I need to be a baddie with a fatty. You are the fatty. She wants to get a Brazilian butt lift. Gosh, what that means? Yeah, can you imagine being shaped like this woman and your priority is getting a Brazilian butt lift?

Yeah, I love when you see men like that and they're like, I need to get a hair transplant. Right. That's not the problem. All right. So, anyway, she might not have her priority straight. I think that's pretty obvious. Let's find out. Let's get into the finances here.

And we haven't talked about finances yet. Finally. Yeah. What is she spending on going out to restaurants? I got to eat. How much was going out to eat to last month? Oh, you want me to guess?

No, actually, I wanted anyone else in the room. Not you, the person on camera. Does it even really like matter that much? Because, well, give me the answer, you f*** dumb ass. Why are you so bad at podcasting? I'm literally just a girl. I have no idea how much I spent on it.

Yeah, I'm trying to have you guess. Why are you literally so bad at conversations? $400. It's $1,000, you fat. That is what's happening. This is what I say Jerry Springer-esque, because you've seen the documentary on Jerry, right?

Mm-hmm. Where these people who are brought in are real people. The situations are real, but they really, the producer tell them to, like, really play it up and really put it on. And so they try to get them to be an exaggeration of themselves. That's what this feels like. That's what this feels like. It's like, there's no way this woman is just like, how am I supposed to know how much I

spend on food? You're like, you've seen the show before. These are the questions. He's going to ask you. I mean, it doesn't even make sense that he would, that. they'd be confused by this. It just smacks an extensive pre-interview. Right.

So here comes the series of insults. It's kind of fun. I mean, there's no way that those numbers are right. Okay, well, they are like, shut the fuck up. Like, what am I supposed to say to that? They're just obnoxious. Shut the fuck up. I don't know who you think you are.

You think you're like this elevated person exactly. You're not. Everyone looks down upon you. You're disgusting. Your arm hair suffocates men. So all you love to say is, Nothing in civilization. You are looked down upon.

You are, in fact, why our health care system is insanely expensive, by the way. That's why your back hurts because it can't control your fucking eating. You're disgusting. You're a slob. Wrong. And you try to position yourself as this elevated figure on this show? No. Fuck you.

So this show's become, I guess, just an entertainment show, like a Jerry Springer kind of thing. Let's all point and laugh this person, this spectacle kind of like, what I'm not pointing are all the commercials that are in this. Oh, shit. Because he's hocking all sorts of financial instruments and programs and things like that. You know, it's almost like delete laws with his pamphlet that you get or the, whatever it is, the card that you pull out when you get pulled over. It's like, if you're interested in making fun of fat people, then learn how to balance your checkbook by going over to my website. Oh, okay.

Now it's a bit of a disconnect. It used to make sense on this show, but now I'm not sure why we're doing this. This feels like they did a lot of focus group testing and the angry moments where he's making fun of them tested really well. So advertisers are encouraging. Just give more of that. And now it's just taken over the show. And they didn't realize that if it's just that, there's actually no show. It just feels like a montage of anger and insults instead of these brief rare moments that came out of an actual financial audit.

Right. I mean, remember when we used to watch the show and there'd be like a ticker in the corner that would show like, how much debt they had. Like, let's go to your Amex card. $25,000. Okay. Let's go to your car payment. And we just start adding up and you just be like, holy shit, this person's $500,000

of debt. And they make $25,000 a year. Like, that's interesting. How are we going to fix this kind of thing? That's the part that crosses over to the Dabbleverse because it's like they're delusional. Right. And you're like, you don't, you're choosing to not know how much money you have. And you could fix it.

You just don't want it. That's the part where we've talked about this. I think with Tukis talked about this a bunch of times. like wouldn't it be fascinating to see Chad Zumach or Kianu? Oh, that'd be great. What are these people, are Kermick? Like, what do these people just stream nonstop and make almost no money? And you're like, why aren't you getting a job?

What are you doing with yourself? $700 on toothpicks. Right. How much on baseball caps? Scorch. Yeah. But no, she's, this is actually a good line by Caleb here. I'm literally just a girl trying to make ends meet.

You're not just a girl. You're about three of them. producer chris would have approved of that god bless him we miss him already miss him some goddamn all right um so this is funny because so Caleb's all upset that she's a prostitute you know he's acting very much of a puritan here he's like but you're married wait you can't do that and uh Caleb is a fatty and uh here's some proof right here yourself to pay for it it's not yes it is you got paid to bang That is... No, it's more...

They're bleeping the word prostitution for some reason. I will never understand this show with all... Caleb swears nonstop. He says fucking every sentence. And they have to do that ding fucking register sound. It's so obnoxious. I don't understand that, but I really don't understand why you can't say prostitution. That's what they're saying here.

You need yourself to pay for it. It's not... Yes, it is. You got paid to bang. Um... That is... No, it's more like we have a relationship and we're cool. And, um... That's what it is in the end.

Let's be honest here. Let's be honest here. That's what it is in the end. She didn't try yet. I want to see what this was on top. I think it's marshmallow. It's marshmallow. Go ahead.

I liked the first one. Would anybody like this other one? It's their signature drink. I mean, it's tough to make fun of someone for being fat for so long. And they'd be like, is that marshmallow on top of that coffee? Yeah, I'll have that. That sounds good.

You're a grown man. Do you want marshmallow right now? It's kind of weird. I guess it's Easter. So then he starts making jokes that I would call racially insensitive maybe. Maybe stereotype. Why don't you just leave? I mean, I love them.

You somehow find people. And there's also a lot of black guys in Dallas. So you'll be doing very well. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that's more my favorite flavor. Okay. So I don't know if you know this, Anna, but black guys be banging fat white chick.

Oh, you ever hear about that? No, but you should put that in your stand-up. That's funny. Thank you, buddy. Maybe I will. We're actually doing a stand-up show. Has this been announced yet? I'm hosting a stand-up show, a creep-off stand-up show in August in Rochester.

Vinnie Paulino and I. Wow. Maybe I'll put that into my tight five. Yeah, you can add a chunk. I'll get a chunk out there about fat bitches, be banging black guys. All right. This is really, we're finally building to the, crescendo of this episode.

And it's pretty funny because he's been calling her fat this whole time. And she is very large. But she lies about everything, including her weight. And that's why you're a disgusting piece of shit. I mean, in my mind, this is better than me spending money on drugs. So. Okay, so that makes it okay. Food is your drug.

You're going to die at 35. It's really not. It's literally just food. You need food. You're morbidly, morbidly obese. How much do you weigh? How much do you weigh? Uh, 2.14.

205. No, you. There's not a chance. You line. Let's get the scale. Okay. First of all, what is this? Howard Stern?

No, it's Caleb Springer. Yeah, have you seen that where he makes the fat lady get on a scale? You got me f***ed up thinking I'm getting on a scale. Can't step that high? I can't believe a 27-year-old knows about Anna Nicole Smith, not what he got on the way machine. It's on the TikTok. That clip is viral on the TikTok. No shit.

That explains it because that's so funny. He's like, hi. You say her 205, whatever she said, we're getting a scale. And she's like, wait a second. The Howard Stern show. It's like, yeah, this is kind of the Howard Stern show now. So he sends one of the guys out to go buy a scale at the store. And about 30 minutes later, the scale arrives.

Wow. Okay. Let's bring them in. One. Oh, you're really going to make me step on a scale? Yes. I think you should too. Okay.

I will happily. Here it is. if it can even count that high. Oh, my God, spare me. Do I take, do I get to take my shoes off? Or do we like, are we going to make a difference? What they always do on my 600 pound life, they like take their wallet out. That's what's going to do it.

The scale arrives and when she gets up to get out of the scale, like, bro, looking at this woman sitting down, like, well, she's obese. But you have no idea until you see her get up out of her chair. Get up and stand on a scale. Oh. Whoa. I mean, do we even have any evidence If an Asian guy was able to fuck this woman? Was penetration even accomplished in this?

Somewhere Benji is screaming. Don't do it. Don't do it. He's sipping for her. Still Benji's best bit ever. So, all right. So she gets on the scale. This is the big reveal, Adam.

I know that you're on pins and needles over there. Oh, bro. It's not even about it, wrong. My fuck. 260 Oh You're rounding up Yeah by point one

So she was off by 55 pounds She estimated what her weight was She's not good at math She's made that clear I mean come on it's true It's true She can't count her finances She can't count LBs

So a lot of things that are difficult to do So Caleb does some quick research on the internet To figure out what this means for her current situation Overweight stops to 29.9. And then there's obesity class one. I didn't know where there were classes of obesity because that's where I end. I didn't know it upgrades with like a skill tree.

Right. Obesity class two exists. Fantastic. But you're not that. Oh my God. You're in morbid, morbidly obese. You're in obesity class three, something I didn't even know existed, which is 40 plus. And you are 42.

Who? So she's obesity class three. He's very excited to explain this to her. She goes on to say, I used to weigh 340. So similar to her argument about like, well, I'm not spending my money on drugs and spending it on food. I guess she used to be a meth head. She was skinnier then. Again, another W for meth.

I've come around on meth over the years. When we started the creep off, it was like mad meth gets a bad rep. I don't know who their PR company is, but they need to work harder for them. But lately, I don't know. I don't know. Seem like a lot of good things come about it. I see Adam writing notes. I keep track of the positives of meth every time you mention one.

Equals good. He's already down right now. Argument to make with my family. During the intervention. Do you want me to be a fat fuck? Is that what you guys want? I one more clip on here where she explains what she thinks she should weigh. By the way, you should weigh 140.

I don't know what he explains what she should weigh. And then she pushes back. By the way, you should weigh 145 pounds. That's not even That's stupid Yep, that's actually at the top I'm good with 180 Okay, well you'll probably be considered like

Overweight, maybe level one obese I don't know I feel like some of that is It's stupid Even when talking about her ideal weight She's off by 35 pounds for some reason But that's what we're going on With financial audit and our buddy Caleb Hammer

I feel like if I may They are like good friends And he's like come on show, let me be really mean to you. We'll get a scale. And she's like, yeah, okay. Like, she's not offended in any way. She's laughing. She has a good sense of humor. They have a good rapport together. It feels like a real, like, staged, fake kind of just edited to death thing. Also, the fact that she'd go on, like this video has like 1.3 million views or something like that.

The fact that she would go on and just be like, oh, yeah, I'm cheating on my husband, getting paid money to sleep with this guy and he doesn't know about it. It's like, right. I'm going to go on YouTube and talk about that? That's, yeah. That seems odd. What are you in the dabble verse? What are you, gilly? Unless that, much like Aaron, unless that is that guy's kink.

And he wants her to financially, you know, make him struggle and embarrass him. People have that. That's very possible. And we got so much to get to today. Thank you for allowing me to present what I was watching yesterday. The guys were over at my house putting in the new carpet in the studio yesterday. And I'm upstairs in my office editing. this video. And, you know, they see like the artwork or something like that. So they probably

deduce that I'm a podcaster. So the guy is over my shoulder. He goes, so what do you like edit for Caleb or something? I go, oh, no, I do a show making fun of podcasts. And he goes, oh, good. This guy's a fucking prick. And he just started like laying it into Caleb Hammer. I was like, okay, cool. We're not, we're not alone on this. What were his issues with him? All the stuff that we were talking about. Like, like, he just goes after people in a very harsh manner and it's not even like trying to help them anymore. It's just being overly critical. And then we started talking about two bears one cave.

It was very interesting, this guy. Yeah, he had a lot of hot takes on stuff. You know, I always questioned it when Opie mentioned these maintenance people coming to his house that had a podcast or wanted to talk about wheeze. I'm like, that doesn't really happen. But I guess it does. No, I mean, it was very interesting because once I told him, I do a show about shows, he's like, oh, what did you think about Stavros taking over the summer for two bears one game? Yeah, we covered that. We wanted all sorts of stuff.

I guess, you know, a lot of these guys, uh, blue collar types. They listen to podcast all day. I do sense. It does make sense. All right. It's time for our... Gringe of the week. This one comes in from Jackie Marlowe.

And Kevin's going on... Kevin's going on this whole diatribe about junkies. You know, he's very annoyed with these people who can't control themselves. And something silly happens that Bob Levy enjoys quite a bit. For himself. Go ahead, Sorcer. I mean, this is what we're dealing with. Junkies are weak.

They're pathetic, and it's never their fault because you guys labeled it a disease. But what is really a lifestyle choice? Shut the fuck up. It's a lifestyle choice. Thank you. I've known a lot of, I've known, why are they giving balloons? So it's the gayest thing that's ever happened on my show. Being a junkie, being a junkie is a lifestyle choice.

I don't care what anybody says. You can call the disease, but it's a lifestyle choice. But what if you? I want that. The first few times that happened to John, and he was surprised by it. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. KB thinks he's better than John's, for some reason. But for some reason, he still doing the same hand gestures and getting balloons flying through his show.

And even before the balloons came in, using that for far too long and when it's not appropriate. Yeah. But that was nice to have Billy Echner on the show. Finally got that guy. Sursor. Oh, that's who that was? Yeah, Sorcer and Lucy just did a show about trolling over on the Once Over with a Kaley YouTube channel. All right, let's check in on our buddy Bill Burr.

That's your beat. What do you see in from our buddy, Billy, on his Monday morning podcast? There hasn't been much. I don't want you to think I've been avoiding him. It's the same downward spiral. It's just not entertaining. He doesn't put any effort into his podcast. O.B. is trying really hard.

Right. Or the best he can. That's funny. There's just something kind of laborious about listening to it. And there hasn't been much to share. There was a little bit this week I wanted to where he talks about he had a uniquely good set of comedy that he wanted to talk about. Oh, I feel like he's usually good, but let's see.

Maybe he's got new stuff. All right. I actually killed the other night for 10 minutes talking about being nice to my wife. Ugh. I already hate it. I already hate this bet. 10 minutes on being nice to his wife. That's what he said.

I hope it was layered in sarcasm. Do you want to know how he did it? I do. How do you do it? Don't ask me how, okay? I never thought, I mean, I have gone a complete 180 as a person. And it's been paying major dividends. But like, after all these years and all of the stupid shit that I said about women,

And that's another thing I'm working on this chunk about that addressing that shit, what was really behind all of that, which of course, surprise, surprise. This would be no surprise to women who listen. It had nothing to do with the ladies with all my fucking issues. So anyway, I'm very excited. Oh, Bill. Sounds kind of funny. We compare him to Opie because their podcasting style is so similar these days.

But he's also becoming Howard Stern. It's like every person who would be a fan of his. He's undoing that. Yeah. I love this guy. He speaks his mind. He doesn't give a shit of what he says. He's just like,

guy, this is some harsh things I really feel bad about now. Like, oh, okay. Well, never mind. You would love this set I did last night. It was,

careful. Yeah, right. I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings in it. It was a really good comedy set. Go fuck yourself, Bill. What are you doing? Maybe he found a way,

maybe it's brilliant. I don't know. I just know he's not sharing it with this podcast audience at all. Right. Right. But he's proud of himself. Yeah,

He wants this on everything to just take his word for it. Well, listen, and you and I've been talking about this for a while. This podcast is not for us anymore. I think when he started the podcast, it was for us. We are Bill Burr fans. We're comedy fans. And we're interested in what he has to say. Now he's doing a show that is for his therapist, his wife.

I don't know. Maybe his kids. It's a contractual obligation. It's a contractual obligation. It's a contractual obligations on the sponsors, obviously. But you phone a clip in this. next one. Now, we play a game on the show that Simon puts together for us. And it's called the Opier Burr game. And he reads something from their podcast who to decide who said it because

they're very similar to these two. And I think you found a clip that would fit right in on that game. It's crazy. Yeah. This could very well be the Opster. And just like that, that's how a dad does a podcast before his kids get up and he has to make him breakfast and take him to school. How do you like that. Huh? You like that? Bill, we didn't say we didn't like it. Why are you getting all fucking hostile?

What's the matter, huh? You chastised the NHL too soon and now you feel like an idiot. Well, maybe there's some of that. All right. Okay. I mean, the giveaway would be Bill and NHL. But other than that, I could totally see Opie. I mean, I'd let it go a little long, but.

Yeah, yeah, I can totally see Opie, patting himself on the back for doing a shitty podcast before he gets his kids ready for school. Did that feel like we were in the middle of his therapy session? And the therapist was about to, like, interrupt and be like, okay, okay, can all three bills just quiet down for a session? I want to talk to the one that's paying for this visit. One bill at a time, please. All right, this next clip is a long one.

Yeah, we don't have to play all of it. I just wanted to give the audience a taste of what they've been missing because this guy is a master storyteller. Like, he hasn't lost it. He just won't share it with this podcast. And he gives a story that it is impossible for anyone to enjoy. We'll throw it in the back of your truck, all right? Um, fucking unbelievable. Dude, 60 years old. I remember, uh, it's a comedian. So you could maybe just fucking chill for a second. Um, this fucking nitwit.

Was he talking to a dog or something? I don't know. He won't tell us. Okay. Um, anyway, I went to a buddy's 60th birthday party on Saturday night, as they say in Boston, Saturday, Thursday, Friday. Thursday, Friday. say or sadie. Why don't you come by on Sadie? We'll throw it in the back of your truck, all right? It's fucking unbelievable. Dude, 60 years old.

I remember, uh, it's a comedian. I opened for him in 1993, was when I first worked with him. I was 25 and he was 27. Just like, what the fuck? How did this happen? It was funny. He goes, uh, you might want to Uber over. it's going to be a zoo over here.

And like, I'm just thinking it's going to be a rager, right? And I go over there, and it was a bunch of adults. It's like, dude, we're like late 50s, 60s. What is a rager? We stay up till 10.01. Oh, no. But anyway. Bill, this is the most hack material.

What is going on? Is it just old age? Is that what's happening to him? it's a combination of a lot of things. We stay up till 10.01. This is the great Bill Burr, everyone. I had a great time at the party. Ran into some people that I hadn't seen in a long time.

Cool. And that one happened. I was talking with this. Yeah, I'm going to name names here, but I was talking to somebody about the first time I opened for this dude. Yeah, don't make it interesting. Don't explain who the dude is or talk about who you talk to that we might know. Definitely don't do that.

that. Whose birthday it is. Yeah. What adults you were talking to, what comic you ran into, who it was used to open with. I used to criticize Howard Stern when you go to the Jimmy Kimmel parties, but at least he fucking named every name. You know, he'd be like, yeah, I was talking to Jennifer Anderson at Jimmy Kimball's house. You're like, oh, it's a name dropping, but at least I can understand what's going on here.

And the story will make sense now. And if he's really trying to protect these people from internet trolls, he's already given out enough information for anyone to figure out a comedian two years. That's a good point. Who would even know who's happened? There's 20,000 people engaged somehow in this, and I'm going to tell you something that's going to shock you. This is sped up to 1.25.

Oh, this is? Yeah. I can't tell. We were working in this Chinese restaurant in Worcester, Massachusetts, called the Aku Aku. And the headliner had a video camera, like literally with like the VHS tape in it. So it was like he was doing the local news.

And he was filming the crowd, coming in for the late show. This is like when you could like still smoke inside in like nightclubs. And by the third show like you, I don't think there was three shows that, you know, towards the end of the second show, like your eyes were burning like you fought a fire. It was ridiculous. I remember I had like a smoker's cough. And I started realizing that when I came home, I needed to take a shower before I went to bed.

So anyway. Remember that? Adam, smoking in bars? I dozed off for a second. Oh, sorry. Yeah, he's talking about how he used to smoke. Cigrast where you get home. Yeah, we know.

He was filming all of these people coming in and just shitting on all of them. Going, look at that fucking guy. Jesus Christ, fucking animals. It was a Dick Doherty gig. And I remember just laughing my ass off. Oh, no. Just thinking, like, how this guy just didn't give a fuck.

Because some people were sort of picking up on that. He was, like, trashing him. And then, like, Oh, fuck. Yon. Oh, my God. Put himself to sleep with the story. Jesus, where you go with this, Bell?

A hour later, he was going to be on stage in front of him, and they could, like, heckle him back, and he just didn't give a shit. Yeah, I think he was living in New York by then. I don't know how I remember all this, and he had a Volkswagen jetta. I think he was living in New York back then. I don't know how I remember all this. Was it a jetta? He didn't even see all that.

Sure. New York's a pretty big city. Not a jetta. He had the Ford or a sedan. That's what I do remember. Was it a Honda? It's like Sondering John's like, my brain is a trap. I just remember everything.

What he actually said, and then we all left our asses off. Right, yeah. And there was this fucking guy, this other guy we used to work for. And he would always, I think I told this story before, he would always, he would never have the money. You know what this is? All right, I just figured this out. This is a phone call you have with a mutual friend who didn't make the party. Like, oh, yeah, no, I was.

actually was a lot of fun. I caught up with so-and-so and what's his nuts. Remember we used to hang out with what's his nuts? He'd bring the video cameras. There'd be context. We'd know what we were talking about. No one he's talking about, right. This is not like a conversation for a podcast audience.

He would owe you like $35 and you'd have to make seven trips to his house. He's boring himself. He's yawning during it. Nothing. In Boston to get all the money. It was like, a big guy, a big guy, big guy, big guy. I can give you like seven bucks. I can give you like seven bucks.

I can give you like $75. We don't know him. Big guy, big guy. That's what he used to say. Oh, big guy, right? It's a punch line coming up. Okay. One time this dude was coming up from New York and he's opening for the guy.

Before he goes on stage, he says to the guy who never has any money, he goes, I'll do it. He goes, I forgot my watch. Can I borrow your watch? You know, I do my set. You know, this guy who had no money, he had a nice watch. So, right? So that's my buddy borrow the watch.

He goes up on stage. Does his set. And the second he gets off stage, he just jumps in his. car and leaves and drives all the way back to New York. So the next day, the guy who never has any money called him up. He goes,

hey, big guy. Big guy. He goes, you got my watch? And this dude goes, yeah, he goes, do you got my check? And the dude with no money just goes, oh, big guy. Anyway. That was the payoff? And that was like, I don't know, over 30 fucking years ago.

You better fucking Uber. It's going to be a zoo. So funny. That's the thing about it. Like, I still feel like I'm 25. Okay. You can cut it. You do not feel like you're 25.

You talk like an old man. You're boring as shit. Holy. This guy used to be one of the best guests at Open Anthony. He was unbelievable the way you'd mix it up. And even when they were doing their stunts and their shock jockery, he was great on there. I'm just holding on. I'm holding on to that he still has it.

He's just not sharing it with the podcast. I know. I know. You went and saw him recently. He was very good at stand up. But, you know, I don't know. I have a feeling even if we knew it was Richard Pryor that he was talking about. It still would be a very boring story.

Oh, yeah. No, it's a nothing. It's a nothing story. The way he delivers it is even uninteresting. Like, he's putting himself to sleep with this show. I don't know what he's doing. So that's what I've been sparing you guys with. I'm not going to share any more stuff like that.

Only when something pops out, that's exciting. It's a cemetery over there. All right. So next week on WATP, you know, we'll be getting back from Vegas and a busy weekend. We're just going to watch an entire episode of Financial Audit together. And then we'll just listen to an entire episode of Bill Burr. Great. Perfect. We'll love it.

You know what people don't love is Grillo. Holy shit. Grillo decided that he was going to start making some money in the Dabbleverse. And so he starts a show. And he's like, guys, I'm in the Dabelverse now. Come over and watch my show. Why would we do that? I've got stories about the Howard Stern show.

We've heard them all. We don't care. Whatever. But then he gets on Super Tip. And he goes, as soon as I get Supertip set up, then the money starts pouring in. That's how that works, right? So he gets on Supertip. And he's got Billy West on his show.

His guest is Billy, the great Billy West, awesome guests for Grolo. And he can't get Supertip working. And then he gets it working. But then he doesn't want to be distracted by it because, you know, you guys see how we all run Supertip. It's on a whole other browser. You have to like look at it. Sometimes I look over here because that's where it is. It's so unprofessional.

It's so amateur when you do that every time. I know. And so Grollo goes, so there's no way I could be like talking to Billy West and they're like, look over at Supertip. That'd be too much. So he decides to call Vegas beer sales Jerry over to run Supertip for him. So Vegas beer sales Jerry sits down next to Grillo while he's interviewing Billy West. And he plays the Super Tips for him. Well, this gets out there, obviously.

And our buddy Fudcichol hops on X and says, no supertips to Grillo. Vegas beer sells Jerry is running Grillo show now. And Jerry will absolutely pass on your personal details to John. It's not about Grillo. It's about Jerry, protect yourself. And he links to a thread, a post in Dablers Anonymous, where everyone's talking about we can't supertip Grillo

because Vegas Beardsells Jerry is a known doxer. We don't want him stealing people. personal information and then feeding that to his buddy John Melendez. And Grillo handed this very well, by the way. Grillo being, you know, he's a rookie in the devilverse, but you'd think that he was a pro savvy veteran the way he handles this. Of course, Doom is in there. So Thorold Joe Burrow.

And then there's Steve Grillo with, shut the fuck up, you stupid asshole, you know nothing. Problem solved. What a fucking idiot. Done. It goes away now. So he posts that that our buddy J.T. at JT the Watcher. Can't wait to see you and Jerry this week at a hackamania.

I'm easy to spot. Be nice to hear your apology in person. So that did not get a great response from people as far as him just lashing out and saying to go, fuck yourself. You're a stupid asshole. So, Grillo after this comes on his show and he's got a safe face. He's kind of winning back the super tips. So I'm not following Grillo.

Look at that. I'll follow you, buddy. here we go. So he wants to save face and he comes on and says, guys, Vegas beer sales who? I don't want anything to do with this dude anymore. I do not know Jerry the beer guy other than the fact that John said he was a nice guy and that he could help me out if I ever needed anything. Okay. I don't know what he does for John. I don't know what he does for doxing people. I'm against doxing people. I don't like doxing people. I think it's a fucking awful way to go about your life. Okay. Okay. Okay.

But why is he wearing George Lopez's kids close? I don't know. So the grill is making every wrong decision here. He's so easily manipulated. He's so easily rattled. It's just like, you guys don't have to do work with this guy anymore. I never will again. I promise. I didn't know. All right. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it. Steve, what are you doing? It's such a weird, uniquely Long Island guy, this like bravado over the top tough guy who's really, really sensitive and can't handle anything. Right. It's very much job to let us. Actually, these two have a lot in common. But grill comes out and starts schooling

all of us. But if you think that I would let somebody come on and take over my show, this is my show. This is my show. This is where I do all this by myself. Okay. If you think someone, I'm going to let someone come over and give out your personal information or give out anything that from my personal information that is absolutely fucking ridiculous

ridiculous okay he stopped on an Eastern night to come over because I asked him to fucking help me because I wanted to do a good interview with Billy West okay so you guys are fucking idiots you guys think you know she you don't know anything

it's like that's not really a good way to state your case If you think we're friends Just because he came over to my house On Easter Sunday to do me a personal Favor and spend time with me Then you're fucking out of your mind I got news for you

I'm actually ignorant about everything So how dare you be having Acknowledge of something I do not Yeah I lie Dude this is this is the craziest part of this story Have you heard this yet Adam even following this good

I'm glad you're not Because you know You're not home right now You've got better things to do listen to who tipped off Grillo about this call to not give Steve Grillo super tips anymore. I hear enough about what this guy's doing with John,

and I'm going to tell you right now, I don't fucking approve of it. If he's done it or if he hasn't, I don't fucking know. But when I got a phone call from fucking Tim Sabian at 6 o'clock this morning, showing me all these goddamn people taking money out of my pocket to not super tip me

because I let him. somebody who I really don't know sit next to me and all he did was push your fucking button on my computer and all you people out there are going absolutely bad shit because I told someone to shut up and now I have to apologize

or you're going to put my information out there what is wrong with you people seriously this fucking idiot's like hey John I'm back I'm in the devilverse now what's going on welcome me into the devilverse and then a week later it's just like you guys are threatening to fucking docks me

demanding apologies over shit. Can't you just give me money? I know, he's so stupid. God. The best part, though, is Tim Sabian called up at 6 a.m. To tell him about, like, I was just checking Axe and I don't know, man, Fugacl says that not to give him you money. It's like, Fugle said that?

What the fuck? What does it tell me Tim Sabian's coming on next week? Well, yeah, seriously, Tim is way deep into the devilverse. This is what's going on. Now, if people don't know Tim Sabian, as he was executive over at Sirius, But then he started, he went over to Westwood One and was heading up their podcasting division. He's the one who hired Opie to start the Opie Radio podcast back when he worked for Westwood One.

I would love to talk to Tim Sabian. Well, he's got an eye for talent and he knows that to hold on to it. He'd be an interesting guy to talk to. Also, Will Heron, what are you doing? I love your clips, mossy clips. Check it out on YouTube. But now he's got himself floating up so that we're looking at Grillo. We're seeing Will Heron's dumb fucking portrait.

Why? Why is that? You see, if you put it on the side, we would cut it off like that aftershock Steve Grillo a little bit. That's a good point. All right. So then Chanty Hayden joins the show. Now, old Howard Stern fans know Chanty Hayden as he was responsible for stepping out magazine, which was like a gossip magazine.

And I think he was an employee at the Howard Stern show for some time, right? I know he was calling in all the time. He had a regular segment where we talk about Hollywood gossip. and did we not play clips of his book on here, or was that a different person? Him talking about John and some gossip. Yeah, I don't remember if we played Chauncey or not. We might have, because, yes, he has written a book.

But, yeah, Chauncey was very much involved in the Howard Stern show. And so, of course, Grillo was an intern on the Stern show for many years, even though he wasn't going to college at the time, which doesn't make any sense. But anyway, so Chauncy comes on and gives his take out. this. So that's what I'm going to apologize for what? I don't have anything to apologize for. Chansy, what do you think about that? Wow. Well, listen, Steve, from what I, from what I understand, from what you just said, this is my advice. Stay away from the dabbled verse. Stay away from anyone

that's a part of it. Stay away from that whole scene. It's toxic. It's so, it's just so wrong. It's so evil. John's a crazy motherfucker. Shulie, all those guys are crazy. And it's all about hate. It's all about how you could hurt the other person, the most. I know about it. And I glare at it from the outside of the spectrum. But I tell you, avoid it. Because you're only going to get yourself in hot water.

It's a bad scene, man. The dabble verse is a bad scene. So I don't know if I agree with Chanty at this one. It's just like, everyone's just out to hurt each other and pull this bullshit. It's like, well, that's kind of how you approach it, I suppose. There's a generalization. Yeah, but isn't it interesting, though, Adam, that everyone, everybody associated with the Howard Stern show knows about the devilverse. Oh, yeah. They're all following it.

How could they not? It's the only place where when they search their names, it comes up. Right. We're the ones still talking about the Howard Stern show other than radio gunk and, you know, a forum here or there, subreddit. By the way, if you don't think I grabbed this ISO for my show, Davover's Live, trust me, I did. The Davover's is a bad scene. Yes. The Davover's is a bad scene, Chatsy?

Watch out. For you asking, is, is he a mic? Kind of. Is he blind? He is? He has eye problems? Oh, is he a mic? I think he on the mic. No, no, no.

Is he a Michael? I don't think so. I thought he could see. But, yeah, he's just not using his eyes today. He's very squinty. He also doesn't look like a man named Chonsie, but I don't know. know what I expected him to look like. It just wasn't that.

So he says, you got to stay away from the dabble first grow up. I like these guys just like, dude, what did you think this was? Why are you now scolding your audience? But they demanding an apology. It's like, yeah, yeah, who gives a shit? What cares? What is it you were expecting to do for this money that was coming in? That's the thing.

What was the bit? It's always the, I used to work on the Howard Stern show and people are like, yeah, so did John. Okay, what else you got? Still got to put on a show of some kind. Yeah. So, yeah, Chanty lays into John Mawandas here. This is fantastic. John is not a good guy. I think most people that know John know that he's not a good soul, but he's also a lost human being. He's a raging alcoholic. I can't imagine going from what John had at one point in his life. He was an icon, a national, maybe even a global icon.

You could say the name Stuttering John anywhere in the world, and it would be like Pepsi Cola. It was that kind of brand. You agree with that, Adam? It was one of the last big, great name recognition, ancillary characters on a show. I would not quite put it on par with Coke and Pepsi, Apple. This is like Chauncey kind of living in a bubble a little bit.

Like, yeah, in New York City in the 90s, a lot of places in the Northeast, you know, if you go to Philly, yeah, definitely. like everyone knows who Stuttering John is. International? No. Not even close. And maybe Sturham, but Stuttering John is an international.

I mean, not really. It wasn't SpongeBob. It wasn't this global phenomenon. He has name recognition. People heard that name or they thought they'd heard of that name. Well, I just told you about the contractor who came over and put the carpeting in, who was a big podcasting fan, and we were talking about Two Bears One Cave and financial audit and all these different, like, comedy podcasts.

he's really in a comedy podcast. And I asked him if he knew Suttering John once. He goes, well, no. Wow. It's like, yeah, I mean, to younger people, Sittery John is not a name that they would know. I didn't pull it, but in the Opie today, he talked about, he's like, you know, I go around on leashed in New York City. And I hear what people are talking about, and nobody's talking about Stern. But I hear everybody talking about Rogan and Bill Burr, that's what he said.

Opie's not listening to anyone talk about anything. No, he's so full of shit. And if he's doing a focus group on the. Upper West Side of Manhattan and saying that's what all of America feels. I think it's a, I don't think that's accurate. But anyway, I don't want to miss the part where he says he's a raging alcoholic. He's not a good guy. There was a lot to unpack from that little clip right there.

And I agree with a lot of what Chauncey is saying. So to go from that to where he is now, has got to be one of the biggest falls from grace anyone has ever seen. And I find it very sad. and I find it sad for John. And to watch him in the state he's in and the way he looks, his health, the drinking, everything about him, it's just gross and disgusting. And I'd like to think it's a character he's betraying

and maybe in real life he's not like that. I don't think so. I think that's John now. And it kind of breaks my heart. That's interesting. So this is the guy who's known John for a very long time. and he's like, this fall from grace is epic. And I agree.

I think that's the reason why John is the greatest locale on the internet. It's not Chris Chan, who's just like a loser making videos for social media. It's a guy who had real jobs, a real career and show business. And you couldn't fall further than John has. He's trying to raise money to sue Shulie right now. Things are not good for John. And Chossey's paying enough attention to people. pick up on that. He's also picking up on this.

It's sad. He lost his wife. He lost his kids. I don't know what he does for money or any income. Everybody hates his guts. He smells. I love it. I'm like, yes, let's go, Chatsy. This is hilarious. It's funny, too, because he's just like,

dude, I don't want to get involved in the Davelverse. It's so evil. It's awful place. He's just like, fuck, Suttery. I enjoy what a piece of garbage he is. His kids don't die to. It's like, oh, okay. So you're not that worried about I treat the devil verse apparently. My favorite part is thinking about how John's watching

and just screaming at Grillo, screaming at the TV, why isn't he responding? You know, I love my kids. You know, he's got all the stupid talking points that he's doing. How could he say he's not a good person when it's been documented

that John has said he's a good person like many, many times? Right, yes. So then Grillo goes on to explain like, well, John and I are in a good place right now. You know, we've had our ups and downs or right now we're getting along. And this is a good thing.

observation as well. That's the reason why I get mad at you for having me on it. Like he may trash you for having me on as a guest. Anything could happen with John. But John's not a good guy. He's a bad man, but he's also an alcoholic. And I think that's part of his problem. Well, no, see, that's where you're wrong, Chaunty, because alcohol is going to

meetings. John is a drunk. Nah. Oh, well, good. Well, oh. I'm a functional drunk. Couldn't help himself there. He really stepped to that.

But Johnson's right. When this gets back to John, you know, when Vegas beer sells Jerry and Dikka are just like, wow, look at who's trashing you over here and Grohl didn't sing up for you. It's going to be a phone call. It's going to be a whole thing. Probably has already happened, although John had surgery this morning, so maybe not. But Chanty then goes on to say, you know, John should really just leave the Internet and fix his relationship with his kids. Which I'm sure John would not want to hear that. And then he's very critical of Shulie.

for making fun of John for a living. So he's just calling out everyone in the Dabbleverse. And at that point, Stuttering John calls into Grillo's show. Now, John is on his show with Husey, and he gets a note from Vegas beer sales, Jerry. Oh, you know, Grillows won't talk to me anymore. People are saying I docks people for you. So he won't work with me anymore. And so John sees, he knows, like, oh, Husey, I got to go.

I got to call Grillo. So John's on his show calling into Grillo's show, and this is what happens. Oh, jeez. Oh, boy, you're on the air. You're on the air with Chauncey. Hey, Chauncey, how are you? I'm good. How are you, John?

Oh, it's terrible. We call it New Africa now. Steve, I'm like you trash from Jerry now. Oh, no, I didn't know. Hold on a second. I just said I didn't understand the hate for Jerry. I know, but, dude, I'm getting threats left and right. I just said I didn't.

Steve, I love you, brother. Grow up a pair. Jesus Christ, what an asshole. Yeah, I don't want to deal with your bullshit. I'm just trying to make money over here on my show. Grow a fucking pair and deal with my bullshit, asshole. It's like being associated with anyone who's associated with John is not helpful. People realize that very quickly.

No. Did you like that line from Chanti? John. Let's watch that same conversation happen on John's show. Watch how little attention John is paying to Jonti's answer because he's just like, oh. Watch this. Good. How's Ireland?

I just had Adam Uzi from Ireland on the show. Oh, it's terrible. It's, we call it New Africa now. Oh. Hey, Steve, when you get a chance, I'm hearing a lot of you like, you're trash and Jerry now,

and he ain't. Oh, no, hold on a second. I love that. How was I don't know what I do it? Oh, we call it New Africa. Oh. Anyway, he doesn't give a shit. Yeah, but do you know Adam?

He's also from Ireland. Yeah, he just wanted to say that I was just talking to a guy from Ireland. And there's our cool connection that we have, right, Johnson? Do you know him? Right. I'm surprised he did say that. I mean, he might know. Husey.

If the guy's paid attention to the devilverse, he actually probably does. I can't believe he had a guest on that he asked to leave so he could go hop on another show to scold them to defend Jerry's honor. You can't believe that? I just watching it in real time is wild. It's amazing. So this is, he continues to plead Jerry's case. And if people are worried about this guy stealing their information, then I just won't use him. That's the only reason I just want to, because I know you called me this afternoon.

I just wanted to tell you the lying here. That's not Jerry. Jerry's a fucking great guy. Yeah, Jerry's a great guy. He also signs off on affidavits that he didn't write, perjures himself and a lawsuit. He also helps John strike channels. You hear that all the time. Jerry get the timestamp.

get the time stamp Jerry he also went to Hackamania to get photos of Cardiff and then send them to John that John then showed on his show fortunately Jerry's a buffoon and a boob and so he wasn't able to get a photo of Cardiff even though Cardiff was hanging out the entire fucking weekend

but he got a different guy and thought it was Cardiff because he's stupid I didn't know anything about Jerry at Hackamania and I remember at the end of the weekend I asked you or somebody like this guy's being really aggressive about getting my phone number to the point where I was like, hey, look, man, I've had a lot to drink. Like, I'm not going to give out a phone number right now. And he was pissed and angry.

Really? He did. He was sent there with a mission to get my phone number so we could cross-check it with the fake Google number I gave him and find out that if it's real, that I gave John. Yeah. So I never gave it to him and he was really pissed. It was like when you call an airline and you're like, oh, wait, this isn't the airline. They're too aggressive about my credit card.

I think this is a scam. Yeah, right. He was just a little too aggressive. Yeah. You know what I mean, I don't think, yeah. We don't have anything. in common and you really need my phone number. Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah, he's a doctor. So what do you wanted to do? Well, right. So Jerry was sent there by John with submissions. And we're going to get to that. Well, why don't we get to that now, actually? That's actually the interesting thing that's happening here. So this is John, getting the news on Hughesy show that Jerry's being called out by Guerrillo. I just got news that I just don't. You know what?

I do not. It is amazing to me. So now Steve Grillo is trashing my friend Vegas bare sells Jerry

saying he'll never work, he'll never hang with him again because he's accusing Jerry of doxing people and Jerry's never doxed anybody. So Steve is believing what Chitway is saying, and making these statements, these unfounded statements against a sweet guy who only tried to help him. This is, this is the kind of nonsense that happens, Adam.

Okay. So he gets the text message. So read it to Adam and explain how upset he is. He's like, I got to go. I got a call. And the people in the chat room are saying, no, no, John, you forget, maybe. but Jerry was Doxing Cardiff, at least attempting to dox Cardiff. Mr. Saw-Vaz-Bahen never sent picture of Lardiv.

Let me read that since he couldn't read it. He wrote Vegas beer Jerry never sent picks of Cardiff? Because we've seen John put those pictures up on his show from Hackamania, too. John wasn't there. Baran-Mikov of Lardiv. Pictures are not doxing. and one picture is not doxing. Oh.

Sorry. Evans Gate. One. You sent Bayes Berseltz an event to dox. No, I didn't. Lie. See, isn't that funny? So he goes, pictures.

Well, it was just one. It was just that one picture that I've shown on my show multiple times. I'm trying to dox the guy and ruin his life. That's not doxing. Oh, I mean, it definitely is. And then just the story that you had right there. You know, Evans Gates's like you sent Vegas beer sales to the event to Docs Cardiff. And apparently he had other missions, too.

Yeah. Get Adam's phone number was another mission. I mean, him and I talked for a while. I don't know what information I was able to give to him that he was looking for. Because I have my guard down when I'm at these events. I don't give a shit. By the way, you want to talk to me about the lawsuit this weekend. I will be telling you everything that happened.

It's wild. The details are amazing. If Jerry wants to talk, music, I'm down. We had a lot of fun talking about music. It was just the aggressive need for personal information. He's a piece of shit. He can go fuck himself. If he shows up to this hack of mania trying to, I mean, Carter's not going to be there this year.

So I don't know what his mission would be, but he's a garbage human. And even though we say that, there's not going to be a picture of him at the door and a bouncer there instructed to kick him out. Nobody really gives a shit, John. And John's got all of his facts wrong. So we just heard what happened. Grillo got a phone call from Tim Sabian saying that someone on X is saying not to give you super tip money. You should look into this, right? And listen to what the information that John.

Don is getting. Shitway called Grillo yesterday morning and scared Steve. You see? I knew it. I fucking knew it. So he just gets a random note from a Randall saying like actually it was Shulie who called in to tell Grillo. He was like, I fucking knew it. It's like, none of this happened, idiot.

So it happened at all. He's like, and scared Steve? Is Steve a child? Did you, did you frighten him? Did you scare my friend? Yeah, I guess. He won't come out now. He's stuck in the bathroom.

Well, speaking of shitware, Shulie Agar, he then joins Grillo show with Choncy. And I like the way that Will edited this because it shows what Chanty was saying about Shulie, which is why I thought he was joining the show, to be honest with you. Shulie, who make their living just attacking a pathetic character like John. May I welcome the master himself of the Uncle Rico show Shulie? What a great intro. Thanks. The master of the d'amelvers.

What's going on? She died. It broke my heart. And now for the comedy stylings of Julie. And then Julie. And then Joe bones. Oh, I Jedd Xxie. Oh, and then Chulie.

Yeah. Hey, hey, Chaunce. Good to see you, man. It's been. Wow, what a fun reunion they're having. Chewley's a piece of shit. He just makes his living and making fun of John. That's all he does not.

That's why I would never do that. Because if I had a show, maybe I'd bring up John. like once or twice, but just do a show about John? What was he doing? Then Shui just up was like, hey! What's going on, buddy? How's it going? And I don't know if Shulie wasn't listening at that time or something because

Chauncey actually gets the invite to the Uncle Rico show. But I just wanted to pop on and say hi to Choncy. It's been a minute. It's good to see you, pal. I know you're watching the Dabbleverse. If you ever want to pop on, let me know. Hit me up, okay? It's a good time to come on because a lot of people are on here right now.

So you got his show going on. See Chauncey's reaction? He did not even speak a word. Hey, if you want to come on my show, you know, we'll have you on. He's just like, uh-huh. He just spent this last 20, 40 minutes saying this is a cesspool of evil. Nothing to do with it. Full of hate.

You want to come on my show anytime. Yeah, I don't think surely was following a log, I guess, because that would not have been the question to ask Chaunty at that time. But, all right, let's get into this. this is Keanu C. Thompson on Hughesy's show. And she gets a little upset here. Moon crickets, thanks for the two.

Kiki faked broke wrist from scoop. Gino faked jaw. Yeah, okay. That's why I had a cast on my arm for fucking six weeks. It was great. It was a really great time in my life. Thanks. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe you should get back. I'm sorry. I'm exhausted. I'm going to go. Can, honey. I don't like this. But no, I'm like, that, that just like breaks me.

Like, I don't, first of all. I'm being honest with you here. It's like, it's like, it really fucking, I, it's Easter. I don't want to talk about fucking Jason anymore. That was almost a Kevin Brennan joke. We can't talk about that. It's Easter. But she's being sincere.

Like, guys, let me not break up my former abusive boyfriend. It's Easter. Come on. Like, I, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm fucking exhausted from it. It's like, understandable. Well, you poor thing, Keanu. This is what I talk about a cry bully. She goes out and talks all sorts of shit about everyone nonstop.

Can't wait to dish on any information she has. She called me a nervous wreck. She goes, oh, Carl, he's a nervous wreck. I don't cry on podcasts. It seems like someone, something, a nervous wreck. would do. Very poor taste. All of you.

You have zero boundaries. It's so fucking gross. And I'm like, I don't like being like, rethinking about that stuff. And I'm like, it's not your fall, Husey. Of course, I love coming on this show. You're like hilarious.

And I like, I genuinely, even you old man with your tissue, I like you too. I'm just like, I have just like a, I think I'm a little, I think I'm a little bent from the fucking Jason. stuff. So I'm going to get out of here. I don't want to, like, have a, have a moment, which I already

just did. So, yes. Yep. Uh, get some less. Thanks. That was your fault, Buckman. Everyone should be ashamed. Uh, I like Mabby. She's fine. Dede's fine. But she's like, everyone should be ashamed of themselves. The cat is the same person. She thinks that calling me clubfoot, Carl, would bother me. me or talking about my staggle teeth. She thinks these things bother me. So she says them over and over and over again. They don't bother me.

She's retarded, but whatever. But then someone says something that bothers her. She's like, this is too far, you guys. You're making me very sad and upset. I learned a lot about Keanu from that conversation she had with her mother, where she tried to do that prank call. Yes. She just does a, like, calls the pub that her mom goes to a lot and just said,

if you see a woman there ordering a pizza, something, something. and her mom was devastated. And, like, Keanu was giggling, and her mom started crying and freaking out in a very, like, lost, helpless way. She said something like, that's the only place I'm comfortable going by myself and you took it from me. She had to walk back this whole thing. And Keanu lied to her face. Yeah. We all saw it happy.

She said, no, no, I hung up the phone. I wasn't even talking. I didn't even leave a message. No, no, we know that you, we just saw it. And then a second later, she's like, they won't hear that. Yeah, they don't care. It's like, Keanu is so fake. She's so phony.

So she leaves the show crying because someone talked about her boyfriend. She might be phony, but that's real, right? Like, these are real tears. She's not pretending to be upset. She feels this way. Oh, she does definitely feel this way. And, yeah, she comes back on the show. And I don't think this was a smart move.

No. Are you okay, Kiki? No, I'm, I'm, God damn it. Sorry. Yeah, I'm fine. I just like, I didn't want to not finish the, damn thing. Sorry. So, I just think like, yeah.

I'm, uh, yeah. I'm sorry. Kiki, it's not a team sport. You're not, everyone's not counting on you. We're not all in it together. It's not. We already got a full roster on here. You know, we got all the starters are in. We're good. You don't have to come back to the game. I'm not trying to gather. I'm a little snibbling when I left, but I think if I come back and I'm still crying, it'll look good. Self and just come back and laugh with you guys is all. It's just, uh, that's, that's a lot.

people saying that that is the worst thing I've I've ever gone through I think and I think that yeah just I'd rather just sit here and and be cool with it because I just like people saying that weird shit about Jason it's you can say it and that's fine but I'm a fucking human being and like I'll sit here and like be all right with that that's fine so it just there it's disgusting It is fucking the worst That's the worst thing that ever fucking It happened to me and or and just people saying, you know, like

Thank God for Jason Scoop or like praise him or whatever The man fucking violently abused me for fucking years and it's like If I get emotional about it, it's like, uh, you cry baby God damn God forbid I have like a little bit of emotion about it It was horrible. It was fucking horrible. What in, like, in my fucking family and, like, having them see the fucking shit that people say, like,

it's disgusting. But I'm going to just, like, sit here and have a fucking, like, thick skin about it, and that's fine, right? Or am I in the wrong? Am I still a fucking asshole? You did damage control. I think you changed the mood. Everyone, I think we're good.

Worst things she could have done. Come back and explain how much this, bothers her guys. I don't think you understand how much this bothers me. Maybe I didn't make that clear. This bothers me a lot. And it'd be one thing if Keanu was a sympathetic character. That's the thing that she's understanding. It's just like when John asks women sex questions, you know, he has someone on to talk about politics. It's like, you take third input. It's just like, ooh, what's wrong with you? It's like, ah, Howard does it. It's great. Some people could be sympathetic characters. They can come on and be like, guys, I'm vulnerable about this. It bothers me.

And people like, oh, this poor woman. You know, it sucks that she's getting bullied like this. Kenno teams up with Suttering John goes after everyone nonstop, nonstop name calling and everything that she can to hurt people's feelings. And then someone hurts her feelings. She's just like, I don't know why I ever did you deserve this.

It's like, what do you think? And also, get a fucking job. What are you doing? You should not be streaming on Husey show for nobody humiliating yourself on Easter. What are you doing with this? None of these people are making any fucking money doing this. They're just humiliating themselves.

Maybe if they just did it more. That's the ticket. One more clip from this. Kiki gets the Oscar, best actor in the DVD. I'm guessing. I would just like, if somebody fucking spit on you, put bruises on you, alienated you from your family, fucking broke your wrist. I don't understand how that, I'm a human being.

I don't understand how like that might not make something. emotional. I am I insane to say it or am I in the twilight zone like yeah it's a not an easy thing. You're insane to show weakness to these savages. That's what you're saying. I know let me but I'm a fucking human. Yeah, of course, but it just shows you the kind of I just want to say that what she's saying is not insane. It's all true. The twilight zone thing you're feeling is that you do exactly that to not just Carl and I but to so many. other people. And I would never be one to say that because Gino said something, you're complicit, but that's what you do. The entire reason you said we couldn't be friends before I met you

was because of things that Patrick Melton said about you, who I'd never met at that point. And you drew those lines. So if that's what you guys are going to do, going on accusing people of crimes and of being criminals and complicit, but somebody mentioned something to you and it's not fair. Yeah, that's the Twilight Zone. in your feeling. That's the black mirror. Dane to say it, or am I in the twilight zone? Like, yeah, it's not an easy thing. You're insane to show weakness to these savages.

That's what you're crazy. I know, but I'm a fucking human. Yeah, let me understand this. Let me just like, if you're having a bad day, just bounce off and whatever. Don't tell people what's setting you off right now, you idiot. I mean, let me understand this. Of course, but it just shows you the kind of people that, like, inhabit whatever, this. is here.

We knew that, though. We knew that. I'm fine. I'm fine, but I'm allowed to fucking cry if I... And I just want to come back and not... See, Kano can't even wrap her head around what's going on here. She doesn't even understand the concept. I'm allowed to cry.

You're not a child. You're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. That's not what people are arguing here. What Lemys doing is trying to help you out and saying, stop telling the trolls of things that bother you. Stop it. Why are you doing that? How dumb can you be?

And now we should remind the audience that this is a podcast that reviews podcast. These are real people going through real things. And we understand the implications of them and are sympathetic. What we're criticizing is their need to make this the podcast and then freak out when people respond. This is the show. You're allowed to comment on the show, right or wrong. I'll run away from it because it's just like what kind of person does that make you to say that to me. Oh, so that she pulls the old, well, you say that makes it so you're the jerk.

Oh, I didn't look at it that way. Now I feel dumb. Got me. Lucy is in the green room. I want to go through it before I bring her on, because I'm going to play some quick clips of her with $2. Dan, Corky on Husey show, because I think that's an important element before we set up what Lucy is going to present to us, which is some of a nice podcast, stupid Dan's backstory. and what he's been up to before entering into the Dabbleverse and becoming Suttering John's co-host.

So this is, did you see this yet? Adam, you probably did. I don't know. I don't think so. Lucy hops on Hughesy show. I think it was on Saturday this past weekend. And $2.00 Dan is there. Of course, he's on there a lot.

And so he's got some questions for Lucy, of course. Who did this? So, Joe Burrow? I do have. Two quick questions for Lucy. They're very easy questions, and this is, I'm not going to be like Carl. I'm not trying to do a got-you. The first one, very easy.

Why aren't you using your regular costume? Why'd you cover up for it? It's like, that's not the Lucy tight box that we know I'd love. I don't know if it's cold in Rochester, but I'm saying that for Hughesie, really. But the most important question I have, though, really, that's kind of a joke question. When's the last time you've ever disagreed with Carl on anything? And do you feel a pressure that you have to kind of agree with whatever Carl is having is his theme of the day? Before I let Lucy answer this, this is a weird thing that I can't remember if Kevin Brennan started this or maybe Chad Zumach that everyone agrees with me on the show thing.

We're not debating US foreign policy on the show. This is a show where I bring in clips. I go, hey, look at John's drooling. And there's snot running down his face. and you guys go, oh yeah, I see that. It's pretty funny.

Like, what is there to debate? It's, it's projection, obviously. That's all it is. I don't understand this. Like, Dan's a huge

fan of Opie and Anthony. This show is modeled after Jocktober. I don't remember the episode where Jim Norton goes, hold on now, Sam Roberts. These guys actually sound pretty funny. I don't know

that we should be picking out this morning show. They actually saw like they're doing a pretty good job. What would be the point of that? You know, guys, maybe if we just laid off and they'd get better and improve.

Right. Like, what are they even talking about? I must be doing an amazing job because if that's what their fucking thing is about me, it's like, Carl has people on his show and then they agree with Carl. Like, yeah, I did a research, I pulled clips, I presented it, I set it up, and played it, and then we talk about it.

Now, if you want to see people disagree with me, watch the creep off. That fat fucking Vinnie Paulino is a piece of shit. I'm going to murder him one of these days. He's lost a lot of weight, and we're really proud of you, Vinny. It's a different show format. We have a competition.

Well, I will answer the first question first. It's editing day. I was editing right before this. So this is what I look like when I'm in front of my computer and editing videos. Yay, very exciting. As for disagreement with Carl, I disagree with Carl all the time. If you listen to WATP regularly, anytime that I'm a guest on there and he says shit, I will regularly say, nope, you're wrong in the same way that I just did to Husey.

Give me an example. What's a big thing that has been maybe that you and Carl have debated and you guys have been on opposite sides of? Our opinion on Keanu. Our opinion on Keanu. That's the perfect example. We're literally talking about that right now. This is the perfect example. Carl has made it very clear his opinion on Keanu, and I feel very differently than that.

I think she and I have had nothing but nice interactions. I know she's been a shithead to other people. I know that there are challenges to the way that she does content to the way that she talks about things. But I've had nothing but good interactions with her. Do you agree with Carl when he says that John? Suttering John is like the worst human being alive. So that's an interesting question right there. And once the last time I said that Suttering John was the worst human being alive.

Oh, I wrote it down and you say it often. Yeah. I mean, what is he, he just, that, she destroyed him. And he physically got smaller and smaller and smaller. He had nothing prepared. He really thought he was going to say, do you ever disagree with Carl? And she was going to go, I'm here. Yeah, we're not allowed to on that show.

I don't know if you know this, but he rules with an iron fist over that. on WATP, when does court giver push back on centering John? That's his issue. He's a lap dog. He goes on judgment. He's like, you're the best job. He gave $100 to John's go fund me to sue me.

And he goes, do you agree with Carl that John's the worst person in the world? I've literally said, I like John. It doesn't make sense. He's suing me for $300,000. I don't hate John Melendez. I find him entertaining. It's why he watches show so much and play it. We would love for his show to be successful.

No one is trying to keep him down. I literally petted him on the back and said, you got this, buddy, when he was going up to the stage at Roddy's. Because you're in love with him. Fine. I'd never say he's the worst person to ever exist. A worst human being alive is a very complicated question.

I don't know that I could pick one person for that. Considering we have actually in the community, I would say John's not the worst person around. Yeah, there's a ton of shitheads alive. I bet Carl wouldn't even say that, in fact. I don't. He hasn't. I don't say that.

It's very true. Yes. Eso would be a worse person than John Melendos, for sure. But, you know, he comes off as so jealous, this $2 corky. Oh, he looks like the negative of an animation cell of a drawing of Cartman from South Park. Right. And he's criticizing other people's looks. But he started a podcast called Nice Podcast Stupid.

He wanted to be WATP. It never got any traction. He's not an interesting guy. He's not a good broadcaster. Nobody cares. Because he's a strong thinker and refuses to suck up to you. That's right. That must be what it is.

Sucks up to John Wanda's smart move. Good for his career. It's honor in that. That's not me saying that I like him. What about him is horrible? He's an asshole to all of the people that I love and care about all the time. He does horrible things. He has doxed me.

He has done shitty things to a lot of people. And I don't think that you can disagree with that either. When I'm doing my... On your side of the fence doesn't. and things like that to me. You don't think I've been doxed by fans of Carl? Have I?

This is insane. Corchius now has the stuttering John argument where it's like, what has John done to you? He docks me. John literally went on a stream and talked about where Kaylee worked and talked about

contacting her employers. That's the kind of shit that he does. He docks his people and fucks with them in their real life. And then Dan goes, you don't think someone who likes W. WATP is docks me? I don't know.

The fuck does that mean? What does that do with anything? His arguments are getting farther and farther away from Lucy and more just about like stop it. Just stop it. Yeah. It's, why is he talking to Lucy about WATP is the question I would have. Have I docks to you?

But you're in that camp. But you're in that camp. What does that even mean? What's he talking about? He's talking about the trains that collect everyone and take them to, am I wrong? Oh, that camp. That makes sense. I don't know.

one more clip on here and then we'll bring Lucy on because I'll give props to Hughesy and Lemmy for realizing that this is a retarded argument that they're having and stepping in a little bit. And also, it seemed like you were blaming Kelly because, I mean, I'm going to know, Kelly because Carl funds were doctrine you're giving you shit. People don't like women. I'm very sympathetic to women in this thing. You know, I understand.

It kind of sounded like you were using being doxed by Kaylee's friends as fodder to shit on Kaylee is what it sounds like. I have nothing personal against Kaylee. I have no issue with Kaylee at all. But also you told me that all that I'm doing is shitting on John. I'm making commentary on something. I do a lot of not shitting on John also. And so I think that if you're going to come at me with questions like that, It would be really nice, Dan.

If you actually watched my content and did see all of the things that I was doing, I think I would appreciate that. I watched it last night. If I wasn't, and also if I wasn't, you know, getting accused of doing things that I haven't done. You asked me a shitty thing that John did. I said he has doxed me. I just don't understand why you guys treat John like he's the antichrist. That's what I still can't.

He is kind of a piece of shit, man. The whole doubt. He's a piece of shit. John is. And how much of a piece of shit, John is. And how much is fucked over. Your ex-boyfriend is a piece of shit. Everybody's a piece of shit.

No shit. No shit. How is John worse and everybody else? No. Are you just going to try to hurt people's fucking feelings? Yep. No. Are you disagreeing that John,

are you saying that John is just a great person? And that everybody should just be fucking nice to him? What is this? What is happening right now? Well played, Levy. Outstanding. I love that. Because,

Corkey just got buried. He got buried of that debate. He didn't know what to do because he's, he comes at things in the wrong way. He's a contrarian. So he's like, everyone hates Southern Johnny. I think Senator John's great.

Like, okay, we're going to go from there. He's got nowhere to go. Which you just saw. You can tell it's like, John, he has these fantasies.

I'm going to say this. And then they're going to say this. And then they never say that. And he doesn't know what the fuck to do. So big round of applause for the great Lucy typebox. who is joining us now. Tight, tight, yeah. Wasn't a fucking box.

Lucy, great job on Husey show on Saturday. Well, thank you. I just want to say that I agree with Lemmy, and I absolutely do not agree with you, Carl. Fair enough. That makes sense. So I didn't say the link or the script is what you're telling me right now.

Correct. Fuck. This is going to go really bad, Adam. I might pretend my internet's out again in a little bit. If Lucy doesn't start agreeing with me. Just yes, and just go along. All right, all right. Are you talking into the mic, Adam?

What the fuck? I'm talking to hear it. All right. So, this nice podcast, stupid Dan guy, or as John calls him, Corky. Corky has a little bit of a history. He's been involved in trolling on the internet before. And it comes down to this guy, Patrick Tomlinson. And this ties back to the O&A forum.

Can you tell us what is the history here? there is a lot of history so we are going to get into some stuff relating to two dollar dan two dollar corky whatever we're calling him today but before we do that we absolutely need to talk about patrick tomlinson and i think a lot of people here are probably at least a little bit familiar with him because like you said o and a forums became a giant giant uh guy he got fucked with a lot he got um swatted 47 times because of something that he is so this is patrick here we have We have a nice little visual so that we can see what he looks like. So he was a science fiction author and allegedly a stand-up comedian. I've never actually watched any of stand-up comedy. And what ended up happening was that he posted a tweet. He was not involved at all in the Opie and Anthony forums. He posted a tweet about Norm McDonald.

And if you'll pull up my image number two here, we can read this all together. So Patrick's tweet about Norm McDonald was Hot take, I've never thought Norm MacDonald was funny, and I'm pretty sure all my comedy friends who did were either nuts or screwing with me. And that is blasphemy amongst all the O&A people. He did write hot take, meaning it's going to be controversial. I think you're feeling sympathetic. Well, you know what I mean, though? It's like, if someone goes down there's just like, hey, guys, I don't think Mitch Hedberg's very funny.

I'd be like, well, you're wrong. One of the funniest comics ever. But I'm not going to get mad about it. It's like obviously you're just trying to like stir shit up. You're trying to troll people. Well, I got to tell you, the ONA pests on the forum were very, very upset about this. And based on that, they decided to start trolling the heck out of Patrick. Now, was Patrick Thompson?

Did you have a show? Was he a public figure? Is there a reason why they would do that? How did they even find this tweet? That's a good question. I really don't know how they found it. And honestly, there's so much backstory to this. It's near impossible to actually search down the history of anything.

Okay. That being said, as far as I can tell, it was literally just they saw that tweet. He was the science fiction author, so I guess he's sort of a public figure in the sense that he was an author, but he was mid-tier at best. And in addition to that, he would do some, like, he was kind of like messing with people on Twitter. So, like, he would, like, respond to people. He made a lot of political commentary, stuff like that.

So I'm sure that's how they somehow initially found it. but they decided that he was the biggest of the lullcouse. He is effectively the stuttering John of the ONA Forum universe. Right. So O&A goes away. The forum exists. These are all the pests live. And the pests used to love fucking with the morning shows during the Jocktober

segments and get their Facebook pages taken down and really just like fuck with the station and stuff like that. I thought they were known for being non-reactive and level. No, no, no, just the opposite. And then for a long time, they set their sites on Opie. and trying to fuck with him and his real life, and then I went over to Anthony and then Jim Norton. No matter who was involved in that show at some point,

these pests would aim at them and fuck with them as much as they can. So I would imagine it would be pretty brutal for a guy like Patrick Tomlinson, who's just putting out a tweet that he thinks is going to be controversial, and all of a sudden all this giant form of people who I want to, you know, ruin your life. Yeah, completely ruin his life. And I will allude to the fact. I think that some people probably already know, and some people can certainly guess,

that $2 Dan was one of those pests that fucked with him a lot. And we're going to get into some of the things that $2 Dan did or allegedly did. But he certainly was involved in this. In fact, he was even named as a John Doe in a lawsuit than Tomlinson filed. And we're going to get into that lawsuit because there's a lot of crossover between the stuttering John lawsuit for that as well. Okay. Before we do that, let's check out a couple of things that these pests were doing in order to fuck with Patrick over this Norm MacDonald tweet. So if you'll pull up number three, this is a post on like a free pickup website, like a Craiglist sort of thing.

And Patrick had created, he had made these handmade Adirondack chairs that he was very, very proud of. He made them out of palates. And the pests start posting this stuff and saying, hey, this is free for anybody to pick up. But also, if you come and pick it up, please just don't bother me at all because, you know, my elderly mother is, you know, asleep right now. or I can't deal with any of this. So this particular post says, please come have these Adirondack chairs. These were made for me by my locally mentally handicapped man.

They are very comfortable and look quite stylish. We have to downsize due to our mortgage being foreclosed. First come, first serve. If this post is still up, they are still available. They are in the rear of, and then they give out Patrick's address. Please do not bother us when we're breaking the step up as we're under a lot of stress because of that foreclosure. Okay. So they're just inviting people to go rob him.

Yeah, inviting him to go rob him. Now, Patrick is an idiot, right? He's an idiot. Regardless of how you feel about him, I think some people do kind of feel sympathetic about him because he didn't ask for any of this. He was just posting about Norm McDonald's, which, obviously. What $2.00 corkey says about Suttering John that everyone's just picking on him, he didn't ask for it. And that's why he's a sympathetic character in the dabble verse. But which side was $2.00 corky on in this case? well i think that you know the answer to that if you're asking such a leading question but i'll just agree regardless i'll give you that um so patrick starts responding to all of this stuff so if you'll pull up my number four this is patrick's response to the chairs on twitter and he is like devastated like you never you guys were just talking about this with keanu don't let people know what bothers you they will just throw that in your face all the time yeah absolutely all the time so patrick goes on twitter and he says i came home to out that our handmade Adirondack chairs were stolen by innocent people responding to a fake Craigslist

ad made by criminals stalking and swatting our family. Concert was fun though. Hey, guys, can't keep them down. Hey, trolls, you know that thing that you did? It worked. And it bothered me. It worked really, really well. It worked really well.

Now, again, there's so much stuff with Patrick. I wanted to show you a couple of other really funny trolls. things before we get into the lawsuit, before we get into the $2. Dan stuff. So if you'll pull up my number five, this is another thing that the pests from the O&A forum did to Patrick. So they went on to like all of these different websites and they started reporting for him for things.

So this particular report says, my neighbor referring to Patrick, has trapped a badger and is feeding it in the basement. He has trapped. He did this is British, by the way, because that's not someone in Wisconsin would spell neighbor. but okay. Well, you know, I mean, they still bought it. They still bought it. So he trapped it somewhere on Friday and drove it home and showed it to me. And then if you'll pull up my next item here, number six, some other things that they say about this badger, he has a trap and used the car to drive the badger back home.

It is still alive and he keeps feeding it. Now, I've got to be honest, I kind of think this one's funny. Who calls the authorities about a badger? Right. Yeah. Unless the badger was like really annoying and barking in the backyard all fucking day and night. Like my neighbor's dog. Oh, sorry. That's a me thing. So more things about this badger.

This is where it kind of starts crossing the line a little bit, at least, in my opinion. The post continues saying he's keeping it in the basement, the badger. The house is a duplex, but his wife owns both properties. So that's a nice little slight. We're saying, fuck you to Patrick there. And then it also includes something that we might recognize from the dabblerverse. he does own firearms and is anti-law enforcement currently suing MPD. So they're trying to get people to go swat him.

They're trying to get people to go fuck with Patrick. And they're doing the quad thing. This guy's got guns. Yep. Yeah. That's exactly what that is. And it's, you can tell it's the quad joke because we're all laughing so hard because it's so funny.

It's very fucked up to try to get police on guard. They're just jokes, people. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was super, super funny. So people start fucking with him more in real life. They go to the bars that he's frequenting. They start showing up even on Zoom court meetings. So he ends up having a traffic appearance.

And he has to go to Zoom court. And again, let me tell you, this will also harken some Aaron M. Holt stuff here. Before we play this clip, so this is going to be my number seven, before we play this clip, again, this is courtroom setting. Patrick is trying to defend himself against some traffic violation. And I want to tell you that there is a narrative about the fart that is quite prevalent in the ONA forums. But we will get into that after the clip. Okay. Station you received, you can mail it to the clerk of courts and out of Gamy County.

Very well. Thank you. Actually, will you pause it for a second? Yeah. Right when the fart happened, obviously. I'll back it up. You might notice, okay, all of these, there's tons and tons and tons of people in this Zoom. court meeting.

All of these people are people who hate Patrick, who are ONA forum guys. And you'll notice there are some fun names. There's a Norm McDonald's in there. There are definitely, they are fucking with him hard. Lucy, I don't know if you notice.

Terry Clifford is there. Now, Terry Clifford is a radio personality from our neck of the woods from Rochester, New York. Used to be on the B. Yeah. B, E. And she was a target of Jocktober quite often.

So that's why she would show up on there. So yeah, These are all everyone giving a wink and a nod to each other. All the pasts. We're all here to troll. Patrick. All right. I'm not quite sure who's making all the background noise or the feedback noise,

but it needs to stop. Hello, friends. I'm Patrick Estalmondson. Oh, yeah, this is John. This is the plaintiff. Patrick Tomlinson. I'm hearing a lot of background noise. He'll have a daughter like a pussy.

3706. Please mute your device. all these idiots they have no idea what they're doing no they don't so now we heard that very obviously fake fart noise sure but the ONA forum swears

swears that the fake fart noise spooked Patrick so much that there was an additional fart that was really him farting after that oh he got tricked into farting by a fart yeah he yeah he got he whoopie cushioned himself into

farting I guess I don't actually understand that argument, but that's, it's not like throwing up where you see someone throw up and then you have to throw up. Yeah, it's like yawning. Yeah, or yawning. So again, I don't know if that's real or not, but people, people are very convinced that there is a real fart in there. So Patrick, in response to all of this harassment in his eyes, decides that he is going to start threatening lawsuits. And the subreddit and the forums start daring him to do that. Now, Tomlinson, through his own boobery and having no luck in court, he decides to do yet another similar move

to what we have seen in the Dabalverse, which is that he starts DMCA striking the ONA subreddit. Okay. Now, does he own copyright? Like, what does he think he has copyrighted? I have no idea. Yeah, okay. He's just using the DMCA, he's just weaponizing it.

He's weaponizing DMCA, absolutely. He's handling it. He's handling it so poorly. Now, this actually does produce some pretty interesting. stuff. And again, I wasn't able to pull all of the stuff because they're so very much. People instead of using like real photographs of him, they start drawing their own photographs of him, which are hilarious. But Reddit, not wanting to be the judge of what is and what isn't copyrighted, decides that they're going to take down anything that's claimed. So in that sense, Patrick feels like he has a victory.

And this leads him to his next move, which of course is that he files a lawsuit in 2020. trying to force the ISP cloud flare to reveal the names of the individuals that are behind the ONA forum and also requesting that they pay him damages from all of the harassment that he has suffered. Oh, and he figured out what that is worth? Of course he did. He did such a great job with it. In fact, so what we're looking at now is actually going to be the end of this lawsuit. What he does in this lawsuit is he has a not-for-profit help him out pay for all of the legal fees. He says, I can't afford to do this lawsuit on my own.

But, you know, I'm just a poor mid-tier writer. I'm not going to be able to do any of this. So I need to have somebody help me. He gets a not-for-profit to help him out. And he sues these guys. And as it turns out, the ONA forum guys fight back and they fight back hard. They go to discovery. They are pushing back every single step of the way.

He was expected that. No. He was not. He was expecting a quick settlement. Do you know anything about that? I don't. I don't know anything about that. Isn't that funny, though?

Yeah, we got the demand letter from John at first. It's just like, give me a bunch of money. We went, go fuck yourself. And then we get the lawsuit with, apparently, he duped some attorneys into thinking that there should be money to be made, but not the case. So this is very similar to that. It's very, very, very similar. and a problem that Patrick ends up having

is that this not-for-profit no longer can fund him. Yeah, I would imagine at some point they're like, we're going to discovery now? Yeah, we're not doing this. No, we're not doing this anymore. And as it turns out, there was no go-fund me in this situation. So he had no way of recouping his losses.

He could not continue the lawsuit. And so he was forced to voluntarily discontinue the lawsuit where he had been suing these guys over harassment. Okay, so Patrick, handled this very poorly. However, he has not a friend in the world in this scenario. Not a friend. He's by himself with all of these people fucking with him.

So he finally gets someone to help him out. Like, can we bring this lawsuit? He probably has a legitimate case because I don't think he's like a public figure that you can just like start telling people to steal his chairs from his backyard and stuff. It seems like harassment that you would allow that to take place. He's an author. At what point is the popularity?

Like, he's an author. He's putting himself out there. Well, this reminds me very much of Chris Chan. So if you know about like Kiwi Farms and Chris Chan. Like, Chris Chan was a mentally handicapped autistic guy who was posting videos and, you know, made up this Sonic Chu character and was very passionate about it. And people just started clowning him and eventually it ruined his life, you know, to a pretty large degree. And it seems like Patrick Tomlinson is similar. Like, yeah, okay, he's doing stuff.

He's putting stuff out there. But this response that he got is, seems unwarranted. I feel like even Patrick Thompson wouldn't be teaching substitute teaching during the Zoom court hearing. Right, yeah, yeah, he'd be smarter than that at least. Even Chris Chan knew better. He's just farting. It's fine. Everything is so normal over here.

The sympathy fart. I believe it. Yeah, it's real. So because Tomlinson has to voluntarily discontinue this lawsuit, he says, I can't proceed on this anymore. The lawsuit is now gone against the ONA. moderators. However, there was already pending a motion to quash that had been filed by the moderators of the ONA forum.

And in this motion to quash, they requested legal fees. $23,000 in legal fees. Yep, yep. That makes sense. It makes an awful lot of sense. Someone sues you, and you fight back. It costs a lot of money. Cost a lot of money.

That's actually a chump change, but yeah. It feels very similar, though, to the anti-SLAPP stuff that we're talking about within Stuttering John's lawsuit. Yes, it does. And this is a case where that was actually granted. Was it really? So now Patrick Thomas said he's getting harassed by all these people, didn't deserve this, didn't ask for it in any way. Didn't handle it well, but whatever, decides to sue them, but you guys can't do this, runs out of money and now he has to pay them. He sure does.

She has to pay an anonymous moderator. I think that that moderator has now been named. but at this time it was an anonymous moderator from the ONA forum, and Patrick is now ordered to pay that guy money. Who's the good guy in this, Lucy? Did you figure that out yet? Stuttering John. Okay, good, that makes sense.

Yeah, that makes sense. In addition to that, though, so this is now, he owes $23,000 to this moderator. That figure ends up ballooning up to over $50,000 with interest in penalties because it gets delayed a very long time. Sure. But also, it is my understanding. And again, I have been researching and researching and researching.

I've actually had a lot of help from the amazing Raper But on this one. Yes, thank you, Raper But. But it is my understanding that, in addition to having to pay those legal fees to the moderators of the ONA Forum, that he also ended up having to pay earned income taxes on all of the money that the nonprofit had spent on. his legal defense. Oh, yeah, they 1099ed him. Like, well, here's all this money we sent you. So that's like income for you. It sure is. Oh, that sucks. And he had gotten very good attorneys. He had been bragging and bragging and bragging about these amazing attorneys. I want to say it was something around like $200,000 that he had ended up paying for these attorneys or that they had

ended up paying for these attorneys. So he ended up having to pay about $40,000 and earned income taxes. Fuck. is my understanding. That's wild. So now he's got... This is not going well for our front Patrick Thompson. No, it is not going well for him. So now he's got to pay.

I believe that the end figure ended up being someplace around $80,000 combined with, you know, the government knocking at his door and also with this legal fees that he ended up having to pay the ONA mod. He must have paid the government because I assume otherwise he'd be in jail. Paying the government would be the top priority in this scenario. in this scenario, yes. That would be the top priority. And that image that you were just showing is actually proof that he did, in fact, satisfy

the judgment where the ONA mod was supposed to be paid. Oh, yeah. So that was satisfied in 2024. Yep. Okay. So this means that he has paid out of pocket for this lawsuit that he voluntarily discontinued at least $70,000. Is Norma Thule is funny now, Patrick?

Now that's pretty fucking funny, right? I should hope that he thinks that. Right. Patrick? The OJ jokes, the Michael Jackson jokes. Not bad, right? So, all right, we got to get into $2, Dan, of course. Okay, yeah.

So let's tie this out into our friend Corky, Suttering John's co-host. We've got to tie it into Corky. Yeah. Now, obviously, the lawsuit stuff is all very similar to what we're kind of going through right now, but what it really interests us in the Dabbleverse is the $2 Dan origin, because, of course,

he was one of the pests on the ONA forum. And he very heavily was fucking with Patrick Tomlinson, very heavily. Now I'm going to say this before we start talking about him because it's really hard to tell what's real on the internet and what isn't. A lot of people say that Dan did a lot of things. I don't know how many of these things are actually Dan. What we're going to be looking at now are some allegedly leaked emails from Dan. we got to take them with a grain of salt. I have no idea if these are real or not.

People really seem to think that they are real. I can't verify that. I will tell you that they do have his name. I have redacted his name. And I will tell you also that these were from a video. I snag these from a video from Cryptic Web Chronicles, who has done an amazing job of documenting all of this. So I got to be honest, if there's ever somebody I was going to trust,

it would probably be this person. So this is allegedly. an email that came from Dan, and it was sent to the bar hooligans, I think, that Patrick Tomlinson usually goes to. So it says, hi. On Wednesday last week at about 4 p.m., I was at the bar when I started talking to a regular by the name of Patrick Tomlinson. He told me that he was a writer, but as a conservative, as the conversation progressed, I realized he had his penis exposed through his zipper. he was retracting his foreskin repeatedly while carrying on the conversation like nothing was happening. As a gay man, I wouldn't mind this at all if it were somewhere more private.

But it's not what I was there for and I found it very intrusive. I don't want to go to the police, but I would hope that such behavior is not tolerated. Horace email, Karkie. Wow. Good stuff. You worked foreskin in there? Good stuff, buddy. You know, I'm just noticing because, Carl, I don't like to agree with you, but you noted the

behavior the neighbor neighbor spelling being not U.S. We also have behavior here. So is he Canadian then? Because that would be a neighbor to Wisconsin. Interesting. A northern neighbor could be. Very interesting. Okay.

There are some other bar shenanigans that end up happening. We know for sure, at least I believe that we know for sure. Again, it's really hard to figure all this stuff out that Dan, $2, Dan actually went to this bar and did something. with voodoo dolls where he was making fun of Patrick and the fact that his ex-wife had left him very abruptly for another man. And again, in addition to that, we just get a ton of these trolls that really do appear to be from $2 Dan.

So here's yet another one if you'll move on to my next item. This is about a motorbike. So very similar to the lawn chairs that we saw earlier. This is a post that gets posted that says, hi, I have an old motorbike no longer running and not registered. There's no title and I just need it gone. I'm moving house. It's located at the rear of Patrick Tomlinson's address in the car park off the valley,

off the alley under a tarp. I'm away most days so I can't help with moving it. Is this something you'd be interested in? This Sean the Scrap Guy narrative goes crazy because they get Sean the Scrap guy to start going, who is not involved in any of this, by the way. Of course, right. They start getting him. Exactly.

We're going and we're picking up more stuff. However, it does end up getting a little bit more personal. So if you'll open up my number 11. I just understand what the jokes are with this. When you, like, have someone like steal from him, steal his property. Like, cool, man. Good stuff. No, it's just fucking with him.

They swatted him 47 times. 47 times. That's insane. Who has time for that? The internet does. The internet has endless amounts of time, Lucy. The internet has so much time. It's true.

You are very right. Okay, so these ones are very interesting. Now, you'll notice that this particular set of messages does not have Dan's name affiliated with it. I don't know which one of the pests on the ONA Forum did this one, but it does kind of show how much they're kind of elevating things when it comes to Patrick. This is setting up a doctor's appointment for Patrick's wife. Okay. And they fill out all of the paperwork saying that there is a foreign object stuck in her vagina. along with frothy white discharge from Canada.

See, that was a callback to what we were, anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is in Dan's voice, though, that I can see that. I can see him saying that. They do a bunch of other things to fuck with him. This one, again, there's just some really funny stuff that is going on in here. So I pulled up another one. This is a letter.

They're an email that Dan allegedly wrote to J.D. Vance. This has nothing to do with Patrick Tomlinson as far as I can tell, but I kind of like this one. He's a known satirist. I don't know if you knew that. I'm learning so much. $2.00 core is a known satirist. Yeah. And hilarious.

This one, you might actually like this one. We got to have some fun after the badgers and vaginal discharge from out. All right. So it says, hello office of VP Vance. The investigation and application of human semen is well known for its health benefits, including anti-aging properties and cancer. or prevention. I have been adding mine to the work coffee machine almost daily for a couple of years now, and everyone looks so much younger already, even the men. See for yourself on my company's website.

By comparing my co-workers' 2020 pictures to now, my question is, with the assistance of RFK Jr., will Mr. Vance help fight to make this cure all mainstream? There's tremendous health benefits to be had in this country and overwhelming and and overcoming the stigma is the start. I look forward to your reply. Horrious. I like that one. What's the website? Any significance to Insight Software?

Is that where Patrick works or anything like that? I have not looked into that. I have not looked into that. I do have one other thing. So I mentioned that $2 Dan was included. He was one of the does in the lawsuit that Patrick. filed. What does that mean when you say he's one of the John Does?

It means it was previously anonymous and then why was it revealed? So why was it revealed is a really complicated question. It was anonymous because nobody actually knew who the moderators were on the O&A forums. So when Patrick Tomlinson filed his lawsuit against them, he had to name them all as John Doe's. I believe there was 60 of them. And Dan, I believe, has been proven to be one of them. If I remember correctly, he has actually been proven to be John Doe 34. Again, who the heck knows?

How does that get proven? Is it the court that does that or is it Patrick? So I think that actually Dan revealed it himself. I think that he revealed it by his response because what a lot of the John Does did was respond to the actual lawsuit. So I don't have Dan's lawsuit or I don't have Dan's response rather, but I do have some other people who have responded to this. And Carl, this is the image that I didn't send you. So if you'll pull this one up, but it's over on my end. All right. So all of the Does end up responding to this lawsuit. And what's amazing about this is that they continue fucking with Patrick through how they respond to

the lawsuit. So John Doe 36, who again, I do not believe is $2 Dan. He was accused of sharing a photograph that Patrick Tomlinson said was edited. in order to falsely portray a lewd and sexual act. And so John Doe 36 responds, I swear under the penalty of perjury, punishable by death, and by $23,739.25, the amount of money we're requesting, that the image of Patrick S. Tomlinson, sucking President Donald Trump's cock, is 100% real and genuine.

They're taking it very seriously. they're taking it so seriously. I think so. I've been here. They really are. What a scoop, though. Yeah. Yeah.

Tomlinson's been getting busy. So this again, this is just kind of like a brief overview of what has happened within that. I want to point something out. This is what's, I think, fascinating about this. And I'm glad you did the deep dive into this. Because what we're seeing now with $2. Korky is that at one point, he had an entire forum on his side. So we can go fuck with someone and everyone's like, yeah, this is great.

Let's fuck with them. Let's steal its stuff. Let's make sure that we take all of his money. This is so cool. And he wants to recreate that. Korky wants that again. He's like, how do I get this thing again where I can get everyone after someone? And this is the thing he's trying to do with John right now.

And I have clips coming up in the John package where he's telling John like the silent majority hate Carl and Shully. They're with us. They're on our side. He's trying to recreate that. He's looking for that angle. to recreate that thing. He would be, he would enter into any realm that would accept him and give him the power that he craves.

He wants to have his own pests. There are certain people who can't handle this responsibility. You know, I look at guys like Mersh, these guys who like get a fan base and then they're like, what can I do to weaponize my fan base now? Let's get them to do this to this person, do that to that person. It's like, those are the people who can't handle actually having popularity. and Corky is one of them. They're also, it's uniquely sensitive to any kind of criticism

when they came from the forums and used to criticize religiously. It just feels wrong. They're like, this is not supposed to work in this direction. Fuck you. Karmic is the exact same way. He used to be a pest in his own world. And the second it turned to him, he's like, what the fuck? Where does this even come from?

Who are you? Yeah, he's regular meltdowns about it. But yeah, it's amazing they can't see that it goes, what comes around and goes around. And so I think that that's what Korky's experiencing now where it's like, why is everyone against me? It's like, because you're ball-washing John and we think it's a troll and you're doing it poorly. That's why. Could you suck at this? I've heard you say many times, Carl, where does that person get off being upset that I'm criticizing

them when they criticize everyone, right? It's fair. It's give and take. I've never heard you say, where do they get off criticizing me and just leave it there. Right, exactly. We talked about that with Keanu, just a segment again. Exactly. You criticize podcast. It's going to happen. Right. I know what I'm going to get myself into. Lucy, there's another element of us. There is. Is that where we're at right now? Okay, go on. Yeah, yeah, please. Let me add one more thing. So you are exactly correct. Overall, $2 Dan was loved in this community. He really got a lot of respect for that. I'm sure. But when I say that, I also should put the caveat on it that there were a lot of people who also really disliked him. So he was getting a fair amount of hate also. And I think that that's

what you started looking into. Right. So, and thanks again to Raperbutt, who sent me over a bunch of songs that were being produced by this forum that accused Dan of having a poopie diaper. Apparently, $2.000 corky poops in his diaper. Did you know this, Lucy? I do know this. And I finally figured out why he poops in his diaper.

I've been trying to figure this outrageous. Can I say this real quick before you reveal this? because I don't know the answer to that. I'm very excited about it. So we've been trying to figure out, like, what, well, there's all these songs about Dan pooping in his diaper. We're trying to figure out like 50 songs. Yeah, yeah.

There's like all these playlists on YouTube, and I got a few examples that we'll play in just a moment. And I go on one of the songs, and I see the top comment underneath it on YouTube is Dr. Steve. And I go, oh, great. Okay, a friend. It's how he talks to him. Like, Steve, why the fuck do they keep talking about corky having a poopie diaper?

And he goes, I don't know, but the songs are very funny. So no one fucking knows the origin of this thing. God damn it. So, Louie, you cracked the code finally? I think I have. I think that it all comes back to this one audio clip that I have sent you about why Dan has a poopy diaper.

Okay. Let's find out. And how often do you wear poo-poo diapers? Quite frequently. In fact, my wife jokes that I should get a, I should get a diaper because I tend to have to go to the bathroom a lot. Okay, so that's what I'll come back to because there's a lot of comments about his Mexican wife who they say is a maid and cleans toilets and mail order.

Mail order bride who cleans his poopy diaper. I mean, do we want to see some examples of this? There's a couple songs I thought were kind of toe tappers that I enjoy. This is Dan the Diper Man is one that I enjoyed quite a bit. Who's the man who comes to town with a dirty diaper? wet and brown, he strokes his cock meat up and down. Dan the diaper man, he shits himself, and the joint goes wild, and you're going to go to prison child.

Before that stay and goon a while with Dan the diaper man. So fill your diaper up with poop and come, and beat your wiener till the tip goes numb. From Flavia's bum. It's Dan the diaper man, Arm man. Maybe it's more the vibe of that one that I enjoyed the most. The other thing that we find out from these songs,

because I was checking out a lot of these songs. Apparently, I heard Dan recently brag about having a million-dollar house. Apparently he once braided about having five sinks. Whoa. Can you imagine having five sinks? That's the dream. That's a lot of places to pour water. Is that some grillo?

I'm coming in my sinks right now. That's not grillo. That is, uh, $2 corky right there. That's why John called him corky. That's what he looks like without the sunglasses. I feel like there's only a couple guys in the dabblerverse,

and they all just fall into one camp. There's like the me and the Rons and the Caleb's, and then there's the grillows and this guy and the skinny chads. Aaron Immol has the same theory. He thinks it's just a hundred people bouncing around every show. He might be right, but there's only one Lucy typebox. That's true. This is a fun one.

I enjoyed quite a bit. It's your dive and it smells. really right, that's a muller. When you've got a latr lover, and she's your toilet scrubber, that's a mullin. Wear a diaper and stream. Super chats are your dream. That's a mullin.

She cleans and she scrubs. In her apron and gloves. She washes your butthole while you sell your mugs. That's a mullin. anything at a mug club. He was on Patreon trying to get people to support his show. He's one of these guys who puts the cart before the horse. He's like, I have a podcast.

Nice podcast, too. We got a Patreon. You can buy merchandise. It's like, yeah, we got to get like an audience first. It gives a shit. It's the correct order of things.

Could you guys want to see? I was going through this playlist that's on YouTube. This is platinum hits Dan volume two from cryptic web. Yeah, there's volume one also. Oh, yeah. There's a lot. But someone just pulled this link of Dan talking tough.

which is always fun to watch. He takes this very seriously. I am here to tell you, Dan Mullen, the man, the Dan man, me, there's no sunglasses.

No. There's no, there's no hiding behind a character. This is the real shit right here. Uh-oh. It's over. Playtime is over. You want to play with the big dogs?

Get in the ring, motherfucker. Is he mixing metaphors there? Play with the big dogs. Get in the ring? Okay. Dog fighting. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. Anyway, that's tough guy.

$2 corky. Getting us all very nervous about messing with him. I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. I was just washing my hands. Why did you get a sink in there? You got to sink right there. This guy's living the life. Fancy motherfucker over here.

I'm impressed. All right. Well, great presentation. Lucy. Thank you. I'm really enjoying digging into this. And again, I can't say thank you enough to Raperbutt for helping me out with it. I might do a bigger deep dive into the lawsuit because, again, there's a lot of very interesting filings in that. And it really does mirror stuttering John's lawsuit so very much. That was amazing, Lucy, seeing how every step of the way from that first Norm MacDonald tweet to when his chairs got stolen, he could have just stopped, shut down

the internet and his life would have been so much better. And you think about the hundreds of other choices he made to keep that going, thinking it was going to turn out differently until his life was ruined. You know, I'll also bring up, so I went to look up Patrick Tomlinson to see what he was up to right now. I checked out his Twitter. He's still very active on Twitter. He has turned his comments off. So perhaps he has finally learned a lesson to the tune of $70 or $80,000 later. But, you know, maybe. Or he's just a legend like Howard Stern. Yeah.

Well, I think that the ONA forums are still ongoing. So, I mean, you know, we could start a whole new thing. Emily was in there chatting with who she thinks is Opie. So. Yes, yes, yes. See, Carl knows about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know about him.

Only because Emily told me about him. Anyway, yeah, I saw in my subreddit, like a year or two ago, someone kept posting about Patrick Tomlinson. So I started looking into it. So I'm like, what is this guy? Like, you got to be covering this guy, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I went to it. I didn't really see anything that I was like, well, this guy seems like a sympathetic character.

He's not doing a show that we can make fun of, so it didn't really make sense. But I'm wondering if that was quirky going into my subreddit and trying to get me on his side a year and a half ago two years ago to try to like, you know, similar to when Chad Zuma came on WTP. It was like, Carl, I got to come on. We got to roast this guy that I used to be in competition with in Cleveland on the radio. It's like, okay. You know, it comes down He's like, yeah, fuck this. It's like, you're not having fun with this at all.

Like, this is a comedy show that we're doing, sir. Relax. But that's another similarity you pointed out that they all have, which is there was a point where they were cool. Yeah. In their mind and then that was somehow taken away. Yes. And they'll do anything to get that feeling back.

And that's why it hurt Dan so badly when someone used his image in a super chat. And shy goes, that Hugh looks like corky. And Dad's just like, Yeah, it's taken out of context. I wear shades now. It's a whole other thing. I got shades. I'm way cooler now.

Guys, I will see you soon. I can't wait to see everybody at Hackomania. It's going to be a blast. Come up and hug me for too long. And I'll see. Once over with Kaylee on YouTube for all the Kaylee and Lucy content you could possibly want or desire. All right. Let's get into our friend, Opie.

Adam, you've been talking about. checking out the Opster. And there's one thing that we know about Ron Berman, Ron the waiter, is that Ron needs money. Yes. He doesn't live in a great place in Astoria, Queens. He doesn't seem to have a ton of money. He's hoping to latching on to Opie will be his big break,

and he'll start making some money. Of course, they had the Ron days, or whatever they called it, where Opie was. Ronica. Ronica. Opie was doubling the Super Chat money to give to Ronica. to help him out. And what have you been saying all this time?

What have you been telling you've been DMing Ron directly? What have you been telling Ron to do? I've been begging him to please open a PayPal or a Venmo or Zelle. Tell us your PayPal, Ron. We want to donate to you directly. What is your PayPal? And what is Ron always say? He thinks we're trolling him.

He thinks it's a setup. He thinks somehow like maybe I can use that to get into his PayPal and get his info or something. I said all I want to do is promote it. on this show, I promise you people will help you, but he won't do it. And I always thought it was because Opie probably tells him, you can't trust these trolls. You don't know the internet like they do.

He's very naive about that stuff. So I was shocked to hear this announcement on the Opie show today. I do, I will say this, though. I finally got a PayPal. So I am moving into the, I'm moving into the future finally. I don't know about that shit, but I finally got a PayPal.

PayPal. Is that like Benmo? Yeah. It's the same thing. Okay. Yeah, but I finally got PayPal, finally. And I'm going to stuff with that finally, but I'm, okay. So, Opie's all bragging about having PayPal. Sounds like Ron might have a Venmo. Seems familiar with Benmo. He sounds confused. He seems, and suspect, like, huh. Okay. That thing that I wasn't supposed to promote him in this show. And Opie is just being fucking flat out mean now. And I'm going to, I'm going to put my PayPal account out there and the money's just going to pour into my PayPal. Oh, a boy could dream. All right, listen to me.

Five things that won't exist in five years. I went house keys. What an asshole. What an asshole right in front of Rod's face. Like, yeah, if we just put your PayPal out there, people might give you money. Wouldn't that be neat? Anyway. Yeah.

This is the guy who talks to Ron, who's desperate for money about, you know, I can make a million dollars if I just chose to reunite with this guy, but I won't. So I won't be sharing that with you. unbelievable. Where do you want to go next? Let's hit number four. I just don't get it. Okay.

Deep too, believe or not. All right, I got to go around for real. I will see tomorrow. I know we're doing well when it's hard to leave. So good luck I ran. Good luck I ran. Ron Berman comedy and all the social. See tomorrow.

I end with this. I ran. Open the fucking science. What? I don't know. I ran over the fucking streets. Is that what he said? That sort of sounded like. Is that a reference to something? Not that I know of. Okay. Was that funny? No, no, no, no. It was just the first time he didn't end it by hanging up on Ron or embarrassing

Ron. And I don't know what it was to say. I was hoping it had some kind of meeting. Well, I guess Iran is a country. Not as you're familiar with that. I've heard of that. In English, I ranking back two words that could start a sentence. Iran all the way home would be a terrible joke but it would be a joke. Right. It would be something. I read... I don't know what that was.

This is interesting. So this is from this morning's episode. And Howard Stern's in the news because he's getting sued. And we talked about it on Point-Doublepoint. But I actually want to explore it a little bit more with you because more information has come out since then. I read the initial article that came out, but there's been a little bit more of it's trickled through. So Ron has a question to Opie about... because this disgruntled employee of Howard's and Beths

was living at and working in Howard's Mansion in the Hamptons. And so Ron's intrigued by this. He wants to know about this from Opie. How close is your little outhouse to Howard's mansion? Are you on the same beach? Are you on the same body of water? No comment, Ron. Oh my God, you live near?

Huh? Does he look down upon you from the hill? Pretty much. In his giant mansion? You know when you're at like Thanksgiving dinner? Oh, that's right. You have no family, so you don't really do Thanksgiving. I'm sorry for bringing that up, Ron.

Oh, that's nice. Whoa, that came out of nowhere. Rod just busted balls. Like, yeah, he's probably got like the big mansion. You got the little cottage, right? Is that what you're talking about? Oh, well, your dad fell off the ladder because he's drunk and you never forgave him. Yes.

It was literally that. move. What the? Yeah, that's wild. But the other thing is interesting about this is Opie famously got his apartment in Manhattan on the upper west side right near Howard. Then he goes and buys a house in the Hamptons right near Howard. Wow.

And let's not forget the clips you played last week of Opie remembering his career as if he were Howard. He was literally quoting private parts talking about why Ope and Anthony was popular. This guy has a real fucking. mental disorder when it comes to Howard Stern. He thinks he is Howard or was Howard Stern. He started talking about his father in proper modulation. I don't know if that happened, but I actually, I want to watch a little bit of this

because Opie was commenting, and Opie and Ron were commenting on this lawsuit that came out on the show. And of course, Opie has the inside knowledge when it comes to Howard Stern. You know, I don't even know if we cover the biggest story of the day. Do you know what the biggest story of the day? I thought he was Will Heron's killing it with the clips lately. I'm pulling mostly mossy clips on the show today. It was nice of him to put the little head in the corner.

I know, just leave it up in the corner. It's, you know, you're stealing from so throw Joe Burrell, but that's fine. Is it a power plant and bridge day with the Trump? Is it the mom, Donnie? No, no, no. What is the story of the day, Ron? You got it right there in front of you. I think the biggest story of the day is, here we go.

the guy who got you fired is now being sued that may be the biggest story today the guy who got you fired is now being sued by their personal assistant particularly beth stern who turned out to be a fucking wacko the guy that got opi fired oh how it's stern opi thinks that howard stern got him fired opi thinks that howard sturn got him fired videotaped a co-worker, Roland, shitting at work, and then teased him that he was going to show it to other people. Roland went to HR for that reason. But Howard's the one who got Opie fired? Because that seems more important, right?

It seems like you're more important guy like Howard's the guy who gets you fired rather than the talent booker. Unbelievable. That felt very, very scripted and leading the way Ronnie said that. He was told to say that. No one would refer to Howard Stern is that.

Fucking mommy dearest, Jesus Christ. But also, Ron famously doesn't know anything about anything. He doesn't know anyone from the Stern show. He never listened to it. Never listened to Open Anthony. He doesn't know anything about any of these, like, comedy things that everyone knows. He knows everything and he knows all about it in detail because he talked to the source who gave him all the intel. That's where he gets all this information from.

So maybe in Ron's mind, Howard Stern equals guy who got my buddy Opie fired. And how does he think Howard Stern fired him? I think, I think Opie goes into it here. Well, look. What a fucking, what a good luck. I don't. You know who she reminds me of? Yeah.

Fucking Alec Baldwin's fucking, uh, wife. Oh, I thought I was going to say when Alex Bob would shot that woman on set. Nope. Okay. Alex, it's my turn now. Oh, God. Of course. Shut up.

Of course. I'm talking now, Alex. These powerful men, they need, they need, they need a tough woman at home. They need a tough woman. I'll be honest with you. And this is going to piss off a few people. And there's exceptions to my rules, obviously. But I think if you're a woman and you don't want to have kids,

you should be very suspicious to that. Some women can't have kids. I get it. And that's... But it's been revealed on the Howard Stern show. I'm not speaking of school that Beth did want to have kids and asked Howard for that. And that's why there's 900 cats in the house now. It's like, well, I'm not going to have kids.

But what if I give you a... all the cats you could possibly handle. Well, that's satiate that? Does he have any idea how deeply offensive that was? It's very, it's very defensive. Of course, he did say it was going to get people bad, but he's also just wrong about that. Like Beth did want to have kids.

It sucks, because they wanted to have kids, and they didn't want to go down the adoption road. I get it. But if you're kind of like, you know, in your 40s now and you don't want to have kids, she might even be 50. I don't know. That's weird.

And then you don't want kids, but you want not. 900 cats in your house? It's 900, right, Ron? By the way, I mean, and by the way, you got to be careful. You got to love Opie's not at the inside track on this. It's like only open would have this information, you know, like he was working at the same company as Howard.

They were competing against each other for years or other radio stations together. So he's going to give us information that only an incident like him would know. Well, yeah, like, Ron, before you go off on your end, I want to, I want to actually thank you for getting that info out there that Howard Stern did get me fired and he also got me blackballed because he couldn't handle me and my nonsense at Sirius XM. Is that amazing? That's delusional. That's so delusional.

So not only did Howard get Opie fired, but it's also the reason why Opie can't get another job in radio and maybe why I can't get guests. Yes, John said the same thing and it was paranoid delusion. Of course it was. Like, you're on the pain no mind list for Howard Stur. you always have fed. Well, maybe not always, but at least for right now and for, you know, since you left serious, he doesn't give a fuck.

So got me blackballed because he couldn't handle me and my nonsense at Sirius XM. It's a fact jack. It's a fact. Dude, even Opie's eyes right there. Like, this is crazy. He just said it's a fact. He just said it's a fact jack. What is happening?

Are we pulling the puppet strings behind the scenes, Adam? What is going on? All of our local saying the same things now and actually the same way. It's like they catch the same disease and I have all the same symptoms. Handle me and my nonsense at Sirius XM. It's a fact jack.

I've never seen Opie's eyes so wide or staring directly into the camera like that before. I don't Opie's going to say he's playing it up or this is a character, but you know, it's very clear who the villain is in this picture. If you didn't hear a word, if you just looked at that, I don't know what you think a villain looks like, but there it is.

Fact Jack, when I snuck into his area at Sirius XM, he basically put the hammer down, get rid of them. And those stupid fucking people at Sirius XM listened to Howard Stern. What he said was, we got a Titan security. I don't want this guy filming me and posting it on his Instagram. He didn't say fire this guy. And they're like, the guy with all the ratings that were on faction, we can't fire. him. I would make less of a big deal about the guy who showed up to

Sirius XM to shoot him. Yeah, right. That's very true. Obviously. But thank you for acknowledging that, Ron. Thank you. He couldn't handle you, but he can handle a crazy cat lady. So you know who would have to make a great couple?

Beth Stern and Curtis Sewa. Oh, Slewa, because he likes his cats too. I get it right. Oh, that would be discussed. So the story goes, Um, Howard. Wow, I didn't even know this.

Oh, my God. Howard's got like, he's got a house with people coming and going all day long. There's a huge staff. And this woman was supposed to be like Beth Stern's assistant, I think. And she was it like 20,000 square feet or something like that in this home? You need people to run this house. It's like a big. I don't even know this, but you know that he's like a staff of people over there.

Yeah. All rich people do. it'd be crazy if he didn't. He has two kitchens, not because he really loves to cook. Right. He got the job where she gets to live in that huge house on the ocean. And I think it's Southampton out there. Southampton.

I kind of know that area. Ooh, a little humble brag. Yep. This is from before the clip that we played from this morning, by the way. But this is so revealing hearing how he covers the same story that we covered. the other day because we read that as or they wanted it to be like and then he they asked me to like move into their house like I had to live with them when I'm buying for the job like it was this creepy thing and Opie's like and she gets to live with them and watch the Sopranos on Sunday and

eat in bed with them. It's like no. Well, it's so that's the new information that's come out. And we talked about that point devil point where we were just like well yeah, of course you have to live with them. That's the job. You know, you're managing the house and whatever. But it turns out she was working for serious.

XM as the office manager. And she'd gotten promoted. And then they said, hey, you're doing such a great job. Why don't you become my personal? Like, Beth's like become my personal assistant and Howard's personal assistant or executive assistant, whatever the title was. And then they, so she moved in. So she just had a normal office job. Yeah.

So maybe she was a little reluctant to be like, oh, okay. So I live there now. I don't know the details, but that previous job sounded like a really good one. And this sounds like a step down. Well, I think it was a big pay increase. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah. And she was let go because they were downsizing.

A guy that's pushing being a billionaire is downsizing. That's weird. Is that why she was let go? I didn't read that anywhere. That could be true. I didn't read that they were downsizing. No, he's painting a picture. He's trying to.

He's, I think Howard's at, I think Howard's at least 75 years old and he's downsizing. as he's 72. OP. I think he's at least 75. They're just like easily known facts. Who here in this picture has been very vocal about the need to downsize for the last two years. No shit. Right.

And he's like, can you believe this guy? He can't afford his apartment anymore? Close to a billionaire. That's weird in its own right. I think this woman was a lot to handle. I'll be fair. I think she was a lot to handle. And the Stearns were like, we got to get rid of her. And now she

ran. She's got a lawsuit. And she's like, I want out of my fake NDA. She says the NDA thing is fake because I want to talk about what I saw out there in South Hampton with the 900 cats they're raising. Oh my God. All right. So that was Opie's take when he heard the news. Let's fast forward back to this morning. So I guess the media reached out to Opie to get a comment on this. They sure did. I didn't, I didn't see. this. I've not heard about this yet. And the media, Ron, I got to tell you, man, the media reached out to me not today yesterday. And I

said, I don't, I don't know what you're talking about. They're asking me questions, Ron. Wait, hold on. The media reached out to you who? Like, WABC? What? Oh. Anthony's channel, WabBC. You're like the really important media? Like

WABC? It's hilarious. I don't know if we did that on purpose. but either way it's very funny. I think he did. Do you want to guess what the media was that reached out to Ope? Can I get like a multiple choice or something on this? You got it. I'll give you a couple.

A, the Daily Mail. B, TMZ, C, me, was it me? D. Radio Gunk. Oh, no. Oh, I'm nervous now. Is it the Daily Mail, TMZ, Adam, or Radio Gunk? I'm going to go with Radio Gunk, although I wouldn't put it

Pass, yeah. Here's the big reveal. ABC, what? True social? It was like a blogger, I think. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying, you know, it was TMZ?

TMZ? Reddit? It wasn't TMZ. It was Adam. A guy in Hollywood? It was Adam. Who the fuck's Adam? He writes, hi, Ope, hope you,

oh, wait, wait, hi, Opie, hope you have been well. I'm doing a follow-up to this lawsuit against Howard Stern from an ex-assistent. And then he gives me the link. He does articles for the Daily Mail. And he goes,

Oh, a little misdirect. I thought that was you. All right. So what's the Daily Mail? Sit, Eugene, sit. I feel a little bit better about that now. So, you know, the Daily Mail might not be the most reputable. It might be a bit sensational,

but it's a worldwide news outlet that millions of people check, which is exactly what Opie and Ron could really use. How does he handle this? And he's a U.S. senior show business reporter. That sounds important. Now, he's a proud. He's a seasoned, grisly, like, fucking New York City detective. He's a slew.

He's getting him dirty with this story, Ron. And I said, Oh, ho. I said, no what I did, Ron. I gave him the link to that amazing YouTube video. where we talked about it yesterday. Oh, my God, you go to my YouTube channel, Opi Radio. It's right there.

We had a lot to say about it yesterday. I go, I have no further comment, but you could check out, you can check out what we said about it here, and I gave him the link, Ron. Opie's so stupid. He's looking for an exclusive. Write three sentences.

Give him something you can put in the print. Opie, from Opie Radio on YouTube, says, he's so dumb. It's like, it's the, when the, New York Post reached out to me when John sued us. I couldn't wait to, yeah, what do you want? What do you need? You just send him episode 606.

It's four hours long and say, find it. It's in there somewhere. No, I'm like, what do you need, a phone call? You're going to tell him up an email. You got questions for me? Like, yeah, let's get this publicized. How about building a relationship? Maybe you'll just get along so well he'll want to cover the show.

Like, Ron knows you're fucking this up intentionally. What an idiot. But he's too cool for it. Yeah. There was a time when, yeah, Opie, be like, I don't need to talk to the Daily Mail. That time was passed. One time ago, actually.

Not talking to the Daily Mail and saying no comment is one thing. Sending them your thing to plug. Yeah. It's just obnoxious, you know? All right. Where do you want to go next with this? Ron mentions a buddy he's been running into in the neighborhood that's worth bringing up. Okay.

But, um, uh, what were you talking about? Can I say one more thing before we move on from Howard Stern? Oh, we're not talking about Howard Stern. Oh, really? You've been talking about the whole fucking. By the way, I'll take you inside that process, too. The only reason we're not talking about how we start today is because there's no new info. That was the only reason.

So I was mocking that. But actually, if there was new information, I'd be all in because he's a jerk. Oh. Okay. This is the thing that people would be interested in hearing Opie talk about. Yeah. And Ron wants to talk about it and I'll be shuts it down. All the wrong instincts.

Every time. Every time. It's amazing. He's great. 900 cats. Yeah. We all read the article. We know.

And you know what, with the 900 cats, if she didn't do that, it's the exact kind of thing that Opie would be like, what's she doing in that house? She could be doing so much good. All that empty space. You could be saving animals lives. Right. What's the right number? We don't even know how many years is it over, right?

It's just like over the past however many years it's been 900 cats in and out of there. Yeah, that's a good thing. Right. They might be handling it poorly. I don't know. That seems like a lot, but we don't know what the right number is. They all get hung up on these numbers. Once is always okay, two is fine, and it starts to be too many.

I don't know how to do the math with these guys. Yeah, this next part that Ron reveals is interesting. Okay. Dude, what about the guy that, what about the film director who wrote a movie called Searching for Howell, we still can bring him on? Remember that guy? Well, I do remember that, Ron. Well, yeah, we ran in him the other day. I'm like, dude, we still got you on the back burner.

Just be patient. Yeah, we can possibly talk about that. There's a guy, just to give people background, there's a film director in my neighborhood and Astoria. He's a legit film director, and he was going on the Howard Stern show to promote his new film. Yeah. And Howard literally just made fun of him and never really let him promote the show.

He made fun of the guy because he looks like, whatever. And then he was so upset about it. He made another movie called Searching for Howard, making fun of Howard Stern. All right. Yeah, that could be fun, I guess. Listen, really fast, because you were talking about, what were you talking about animals that smell or something, right? Jesus Christ. That actually sounds like a perfect guest for you.

Right. And I love that. I was slighted. I can't relate to that guy at all. A guy was slited by Howard and then decided to get revenge by making a movie about him. And I was like, yeah, yeah, maybe. Anyway, so poop smells bad, right? Yeah, I got this asshole from the Daily Mail wants to promote my show.

I got all these assholes and ruining my life. Leave me alone. He refuses to do. put out an entertaining product. He refuses to it. It's great. And Ron is just drowning, like begging for a life preserver and Opie's just enjoying watching it. So the question comes up. Why is Opie still in New York City?

We've talked about this before. He complains about it all the time. He seems to hate it there. And he gives his answer. I would say me and my wife and are still here because of the kids. It's as simple as that. Because I can't pull them out. They're too old now.

to bring him somewhere brand new to start over in a new school. And so I feel to answer your question, Barrister, I feel stuck. I'm not going to lie. I feel stuck. This is insane. We literally covered this seven years ago on WATP where OPE said, I'm not leaving New York City, even though he didn't have any obligation to be there anymore, no reason to, because the kids are in school.

And now we're saying now they're too old to take him out of school. Yeah. You missed the window there, buddy. Could have moved to the suburbs when you had a chance. I don't think there's an age that I could be where I would find a clip of my father saying exactly that. Right. That I wouldn't feel devastating. Right.

Like, my father feels stuck. Yeah, we're torturing ourselves. Yeah. Because Anna's got a lot of fucking friends. Anna's popular in school. So we have to, if I can stay here and ruin our lives. and that they wouldn't sense this, sense this misery in that they would want to be around their father,

like, ranting into the radio every, wait, this is my life. Fuck. Yep. Let's find out why Opie hates this program, WATP. I had a very dark house. So when I see wood paneling, it actually, I'm embarrassed to say this, it triggers me.

I don't like wood panel. Hold on. It's literally wall-to-wall wood panel. I know. Oh, God. And it looks nice. It looks nice, but it's one of those things that actually triggers me from my upbringing. It looks nice.

What paneling could be lovely? What do you mean triggers you? Someone touched you on someone touched your privates? What do you mean? I had a tough upbringing with the mom. Oh, so your bedroom, you had wood paneling in your bedroom? No, no. We had the old school.

wallpaper that's hilarious I love Ron giving us the whole tour of his apartment just by spitting his webcam yeah and I love how Ron has serious problems and when Opie's like you don't know

how damaged I am Ron looks at him like no I don't right so so what there was wood paneling in your bedroom and your uncle moasted you no no my mom was just kind of a pain of the ass yeah in the rec room we had wood paddling oh okay And there was nowhere else you could go because it was everywhere.

No, my bedroom was fine. Yeah, yeah. That Star Wars wall pipe paper. It was pretty cool. Maybe he said something like wells. He was looking at houses in New York and he saw a well and that triggered him. Yep. Everything triggers him.

There's a street in front of that house? No, I can't have that. There was a car accident in front of my house when I was growing up. Oh, yeah. We lost a dog that way. I can't have a street in front of it. A couple dogs that way. Anyway, fuck Beth and her cat rescue.

All right. So this is kind of a fun clip that you pulled because, um, They're talking about a tiger biting a child at the zoo. And Ron has an interesting question about this. That's the scenario. Whose fault is it? And should we kill the animal for biting the kid? What do you got on that, Ron?

I put you in a tough spot because you don't, you're not invested in kids. First of all, what were the parents? I said. They were on a park bench. No, no, no. I mean, they were. Caucasian? What kind of parents with you?

You're once again auditioning for the Anthony Coobia show. Yeah, he goes, what were the parents? What a weird question? What's going on with Rod lately? Why is that okay to laugh at? I don't understand it. Yeah, I know. But other things aren't.

Right. Yeah. Obie's like, oh, that's racist. Ha ha ha! Good stuff. But, you know, Missy wishes Hitler a happy birthday on 420 every year and everyone says that she's anti-subi.

It's like, yeah, sometimes they're jokes. She clearly meant it. That's the problem. She clearly dead. That's what you do when there's a evil dictator who's been dead for decades. He might see it, fingers crossed. On social media, that's true. You never know. Is he looking up at it or looking down at it is the question, I guess?

You want to say whether chemistry? This is the best example of it. Watch them cook. Trump said he's going to take out nine million people. And the show I'm in the middle of a great rant with a good punchline and you had to jump in, didn't you, Ron? Rock you go. So I had to watch.

Did you try to jump in again? No, so go ahead. Oh, thanks, Ron. And now the punchline that I ended up watching shrinking instead doesn't work anymore. It wasn't going to work only. That's hilarious. right there. Rod does talk way too much.

The other guy's talking. You don't need to correct them. It's fine. But when they are talking, you start chewing. And when that's not distracting enough, you start bringing up the food and showing everybody. This is the guy that this is the best guy hoping you get. You know, Adam, you and I were chatting about this privately.

You weren't far. You're not far now. I don't know. I'm not sure where you are now, but you weren't far from where Opie used to podcasts on a weekly basis. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. I'm around the corner. I'm staying at a hotel not far from Gepard's.

And if he was going to go live there, I was going to run down with the laptop and see what I could get done. Right. What happened to that relationship with Matt from Gepard's? Like, they don't do that anymore. Oh, yeah. He came to his senses and decided he was tired of taking a loss every time they were broadcasting. Dude, they broadcast from the front room where the door is. You have to walk past Opie's duct taped webcam and there's his stupid ringlight and all of his buffoons around.

him in order to like walk into the restaurant. I'm pretty sure at one point, Matt's like, can we stop pretending we're podcasters now? It's not happening. I mean, the Get Part streams get even less views than the streams in their homes. Right. So even the people interested in this would not want to be there for that.

Can you imagine what people just walking by looking for a bar to jump in when they see this happening in the front by the door? They're like, I'm not crossing that. Well, hopefully when the weather gets nice again and they can open up those windows, then Opie can yell at people. they're walking down the sidewalk. That's my favorite part of the Gepard dreams.

That's the best bit. Harassing the elderly. That's always good. Or if there's like an attractive woman that can cat call, that's good stuff too. Oh, that's timely. Do you mind if we just see the punchline that he had planned for this Trump bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a victory for Donald J. Trump.

Where's your Biden now? Who, Biden? Where's your Biden now? What's he talking about? What does that mean? I don't know. What does it mean? Where's your Biden now?

I ran the streets. Where's your Biden now? This guy's watching war coverage. I got one for this. Yeah. All right. This is going to hit. An idiot.

The more I watch, the less I understand what's happening. You have one more clip out here. Should we hit it and get out? Yeah, hit that last one. Okay. And then we're on to Sittering John. Prepare to use it as a clip. It's very short.

It sums them up perfectly. Okay. What were you talking about animals that smell or something, right? Dog shit. We're talking about shit. Rod just came to life right there. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about animal shit.

That stuff stinks, right? It sure does, Rob. He's right. It stinks. He sure does. It stinks. Um, Now, I don't like to comment on this lawsuit that's still ongoing because we have a date set, April 22nd, coming up here in Rochester.

And John claims that he's coming. He'll be here with VTL, I guess, are driving down together to appear. Even though John was not asked by the court to appear, his attorneys were. John is saying that he's going to come. And, you know, we did file an anti-SLAPP. This is all out there. I can talk about this. We did counter with an anti-SLAP because it's something.

seemed to us like he was bringing a frivolous lawsuit in order to cost us money, drain our bank accounts. He was trying to punish Shulian me with this lawsuit. And when he says stuff like this, it kind of makes me think that maybe we are right about that. Donation to help pay for your surgery. Good luck. Thank you. Beautiful. Thank you. You know, you're giving me faith in humanity. I mean, here I am up against Dr. Steve's GoFund me. I'm up against my insurance company. I'm up against two people that fucking use my name, voice, and likeness to profit without my written consent. I'm up against their fucking TV lawyer.

And I'm gay now. Now I'm up against surgery. So thanks for the help. Dan Link Dufus's channel. That's why he likes to pop in the I'm gay now thing. That wasn't John saying that. John's the victim, everyone. Do you hear what he's up against?

He's up against Dr. Steve's GoFundMe. John wanted us to not be able to afford defending ourselves. Doesn't that what that sounds like to you? He's upset that we're able to defend ourselves against this frivolous lawsuit. I remember when he threw me off his show once he said something like, oh, oh, so you can do what you want to do, but I can't, and then he couldn't finish the sentence, I think because he realized what he was trying to say is, but I can't control what you do.

Like you having a GoFundMe is nothing to do with him in his case. It's a separate thing. It's an insane thing to say. It's the first thing he noted too. I'm up against. The first thought was Dr. Steve's GoFundMe. He's so angry. And so he finally did start his own GoFundMe.

We'll get into that in just a moment. But first, let's get back into $2. Porky talking to John about why you should start his own go fund. Give to me. I think your fans, your backers, it's time for us to fucking step up to the plate. I think people need to get behind you because there is a silent majority. I swear to you, and this is not me being bullshit artists or anything. There is a silent majority that is sick of the cult of Carl and Shulie.

And this could be a way, even if they don't necessarily like you, it could be a way to stick it to Carl and Shulay. And for that reason, I think a GoFundMe makes all the sense in the world. It really does. And I think you'd be surprised. I think you're underthinking about the potential here. I think this could be tens of thousands of dollars. Well, you're right. I was underthinking.

You got me there. So he's obviously trolling John to say, like you set up a GoFundMe. I'll make all this money. If he's not, then he's the worst friend ever. He's just setting out to be humiliated, right? It's one or the other. So he's either setting him up to be humiliated because he's not going to make tens of thousands of dollars.

John's a very unlikable loser whose family won't talk to him. Or Corky's trolling him and going, yeah, so it would go fund me so that way we can all laugh at you. We don't make any money and get nowhere near your goal. Either way, I don't know what John's doing with this guy. It shows how stupid John is that he's still allowing this loser to be his co-host on the show.

And then Corky tries to, So what Corky does, his M.O. He just throws out wild accusations. Like we saw that with his debate with Lucy and he just got shot down immediately. Well, you've never done this. Yeah, I did. Here's the example. Like, uh-oh.

So when he's talking to John, he can just say like anything about anyone. And it doesn't matter unless John actually knows something for once for a very specific reason. What? And that other, I'll tell you, that other Luigi Greenberg character. I'm a lawyer. Prove it. Like, I'm supposed to take the word of a fucking talking cartoon that you're a lawyer. Yeah, I'm a lawyer too, okay?

Yeah, $2 Dan, Esquire. I'm a lawyer too. Let me give you my advice. Well, he actually is a lawyer in Texas and he's Hispanic. I know who he is. I know who his wife is. I know, but, you know, but again, I'm not going to fucking say it. Oops.

Sorry, Corky. That thing you just made up, that Louis de Greenberg's out of lawyer. You see, John has to threaten him with doxing him. So John has to be like, actually, no, no, no, I might dox this guy. And he needs to stay in line because I know who he is. I know his wife is. And I will out of him. I think the John goes, I'm too good of a guy to dox him. I'll just threaten it overtly. Cool. And tease. I'll dribble out a little bit of info. What did he say after he said he's a lawyer? He said he's what he spent, did any, uh, what, uh, is he Caucasian? Yeah, right. Rod Perman wants to know about this.

Isn't that funny? He goes, well, he's actually a lawyer in Texas, and he's Hispanic, and I know his wife's name. Okay.

But you see we're like, $2. Corky there, he's just in over his hat with all this shit. He just thinks he can run his mouth. He's like a Chad Zumach who's like,

I can get in here and mix up and run my mouth. Like, yeah, but you don't know anything and you're not entertaining and you're just lying all the time. Yeah, as long as nobody ever asks

a follow-up question. Right, yeah. As long as it was checking me, you know, that'll be great. John shows up on his show yesterday.

So of course, this is the Nope, this is the day before his surgery He was gonna have, I believe he had a surgery today On his wrist And John shows up in the worst shape I've seen in quite some time It's hysterical Oh, Jesus

Look at his shirt Look at this thing Check, check check check Damn it It's fucking painful now It's not a V neck, it's a U neck I don't even know how you make a shirt like that.

No fucking medication. I'm going nuts. That's a moo-moo. Look at him open the water. Okay. So again, he's opening his water with his teeth, which he almost re-broke his arm last time he did that because he slipped in the puddle. How is he not learned? It's very easy to put the water bottle under your other arm or put it between your

legs. Just put it somewhere where it won't move. Just use your one good hand to twist it off. I mean, John, he can't solve simple, problems. In this instance, I don't think he wants it to look easy. I think he wants it to look as hard as possible because he's suffering so much. You want sympathy right now, yeah.

While also constantly winning. Oh, disgusting. Ew. Fuck. Fucking can't even put a fucking shirt on. They put that fucking stupid depressing on the new shampoo I got. and you got to keep clicking it before it pops up. Yeah.

And I fucking, I'm there with my mouth trying to open a goddamn thing. And then the whole thing comes off. So I have to say, Adam, I think that proves you're wrong. He literally doesn't know how to solve simple problems. You might be right. He wasn't even on camera, but he's trying to get his shampoo to dispense. He's using his mouth to do that. He really doesn't understand that he can hold that with anything else.

and twist it with his one hand. He might be right. It's their fault. Whoever they is, which I'll assume is shulie. I love it. All right. So there's a guy in the chat who's telling John, this is last night, and John's drinking Bush lights.

It's the guy in the chat says, listen, you shouldn't be drinking alcohol before surgery. They tell you 24 hours before surgery, you don't have any alcoholic beverages. Huh. That should sound right. I think that is right, actually. We'll see. Well, John disagrees with it for sure. Evans Gate

No doctor would say He drank the morning before surgery Yeah, I know They told me don't drink Don't drink any liquid Past midnight You stupid fuck And I confirmed that today

So what the fuck is your problem here Dummy Even Hughesie's laughing at him He's the guest out here Because Stupid John See the thing that says no liquids after midnight.

And John's just like, yeah, yeah, that's no problem. I'll be drunk and passed out before that. It's like, no, but liquids, right, right, but also like no alcohol for 24 hours. And John just reads what he wants to read. He's like, no, no, no, just stop drinking. Alcohol's a liquid. Exactly. Lady Kay, you don't understand this.

So he's just seeing it and going like, no, no, no, I'll just stop drinking by midnight. It's no problem. I can see why Hughes's silent. What would he know about this and drinking and any of this stuff? You might just stay out of it. Dude, this whole appearance with Hughesy on here, that was at the grocery store, just listening to my earbuds.

And Hughesie would just make as usual Hughesy jokes, which are fun or, you know, whatever. Whatever. John would lose his mind over every single one. Holy shit, you're so funny. Dude, oh my God. You just said that thing. Like, he was just praising.

He needs Hughesy to be on his side so badly. He's also not usually having a co-host is actually trying to make jokes and be entertaining. So he was like blown away. way by that. It's like, whoa, this is wild. So, um, this is, again, someone telling John not to drink. And then, uh, this is John playing the victim. Evans Gain, avoid alcohol 24 hours before surgery. Look up. Thank you, Doc.

Avoid alcohol 24 hours before surgery. Look it up. Thanks, doctor. Like you know anything. You don't fuck. And what an asshole thing to say. Right. Trying to help him out. Siege worldwide. eight six. Good luck tomorrow. Thank you. Thank you. Skull!

Look at that. We're up to 165 bucks. Look at that. Come on now. Don't eat. Okay, so this is his new GoFundMe. And the title is, James Madison made this.

The title is they used his voice, sold his name, now he's fighting back. I fucking called this, Adam. I'm sorry. I had to take a victory lap. When John was asking for $30,000 before, I said, this isn't about surgery.

This is to pay his legal fees. Because his attorneys aren't responding to anything. We don't think his attorneys are going to show up to the court date. They're no longer his attorneys. They haven't told the court that. They haven't told my attorney that. So I don't know. But whatever, it's fucking crazy.

All of a sudden, John's now admitting, last week it was I need money for surgery. And now it's like, I need money for, I almost said my defense. He's the one super. us, Adam. He brought a lawsuit to Shulie and me, and we went, this is horseshit. We're going to get a great attorney and fight this. And so far, very successfully, we got to move to Monroe County. We got the judge to say, yeah, we need a pretrial hearing because what the fuck is going on. And so John's scrambling. He doesn't know what to do. His attorney isn't responding to any of this stuff. And so now he's trying to raise money so we could actually maybe pay a lawyer for fucking once. The guys brags on how he's never paid a lawyer. Cool.

Good luck with that. He just knows that as soon as the judge hears that they stole the wooden chairs that they stole the wooden chairs from his back. I mean, the couch cushions from his front, they'll sympathize. Right. But this is insane where now he's trying to play the sympathy card. You know, he's the Duke, and he's killing all of us, and he's the best. And then, whoa, is me. Donate, donate, donate.

Help the Duke fight against these bullies. Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not the one that got somebody to tape them illegally.

Uh, okay. There's a lot I want to say, but I can't. But as soon as this thing gets, since we're past this thing. I have a lot to talk about with this lawsuit. John's stupid. He's next level retarded. Of course, what he's referring to here is that apparently shooly somehow manipulated or somehow forced Kate Meaney to record phone calls that they had.

Oh, it was extortion. He blackmailed. I'll say nothing. I'll say nothing. He's so delusional. He's so insane. I'm not the one. that held paper views and live events.

I'm not. Right. You wouldn't get it. I was just trying to help this young lady. Oh. He was just trying to help a young lady. So he is the victim. He is actually the hero.

Not just the victim. He's the hero. He's trying to help a young lady. We're the ones having pay per views. It's unbelievable what he has to go through this project. Just like with that Patrick Tomlinson guy, like I want to know if Lucy can find out what he told that law office that agreed to work for him for free because it's really just pointing to this stuff on the internet and going, they're making fun of me.

They're making song parodies. I'm so glad you pulled this up really fast. This is the worst picture you could ever pick if you're trying to raise money for something. It's the least sympathetic, more smug, I'm fine. I don't need help. Self-satisfied grin that says stay away, don't donate. Well, let's also point out that this is the laziest man who ever worked on the Howard Stern show. and the photo they have of them is with his feet up on the desk,

arms behind his head, not a care in the world. John, anyone caught on the phones? I don't know. Maybe. I'm going to send him money. I'm going to send him a lot of money right now.

My potato almost ready? I don't know. I don't know. All right. So he's raised $225 of $15,000 that he's asking for. And of course, the number one donor, 225 would be a lot less if we weren't for $100 from. That's right.

$2. Korky gave $100. So this is a troll? He's all in. I don't know what his end game is. I think he's lost sight of whatever he's doing. Because that he's just buddies with John and giving him as much money. More money than anyone else.

He wipes his mouth with $100 bills. It's mostly anonymous donors. Most people don't want to know. Let's read the description of this. They sold his voice without consent. Now he's fighting back. They didn't just talk about Southern John Melendez. They used him.

They sold access to his voice. Access to his voice. They used his image to promote it. And they did it without his knowledge or consent. And then it goes on to... They sold access to his voice? It doesn't make any sense. John believes in free speech.

He's lived his entire career. But free speech does not give anyone the right to take someone's identity, package it, sell it, and keep the profits. That's not commentary. That's not parody. That's exploitation. Oh, okay. Good stuff.

James Madison, Cape Coral wrote this. So it must be a buddy at the bar. Who set this up for him? James Mass, that can't be a real name. It's not a former president. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of our founding fathers, I believe. It could be a movie of the week.

Remember the guy who used to ambush people and ask them offensive questions is now fighting for limits on free speech. Yep. It's unbelievable. Easy Street. This is really funny. So John posted this on the Howard Stern subreddit. His GoFundMe.

And so someone in Dan was anonymous, Thompson Margera, who was chatting us earlier. Says yesterday, John put up the link to his GoFundMe on the Howard Stern Reddit thread that has 225,000 weekly visitors. It has gotten 0.0 donations. The comments are hilarious, though. So this is, spread your ass cheeks one. assume that's John says a beloved Stern show icon is down on his luck please donate

anything will help be on the right side of history and donate here who says be on the right side of history I said James Madison quote if I knew it I think that's John Valandez I'd rather give money

to high pitch Eric or Jeff's dead arm than stuttering John I'll upload that that's funny Tom Giosado famously said he'd rather get cancer than give John a raise or that's my grandmother in a donkey show that donate money to John

people don't like John. Appropriate picture of him leaning back, relaxing, not doing anything. Anyway. How did the shit wearer get to all of these people to turn them? Right. Yes, it's amazing. It's crazy how Shulie was able to do that is when nobody likes him. And the most famous thing he ever did was way shit.

Now, he's promoting his GoFundMe on the show. But he's not giving out the URL. Correct. and he's fucking helpless as usual. You'll see in the scroll, in the scroll in the scroll below him, there is a GoFundMe URL.

It's not attached to anything. It's not how GoFundMe URLs are even built. It's just like 0B.E.0221.E.4. So, someone asks him like, how do I give you money? Source of a gypsy. What's the URL? Isn't that it right down there?

Sorcerer? Is that not it? What's it? I thought that is it, no? What's the URL? I don't know. I don't know. It's too, hold on. All right. What do you think he's going to do next to Adam? I'm watching him act like he's a victim of his own go-fund me now. I know. He can't get anything right.

I got to go with the URL on top of all this. Jesus Christ. No, but you know John pretty well at this point. What do you think he's going to do next? He's going to say, just super chat him, and he'll make sure it gets there or something. That's a good theory. That's a good theory.

I don't know how to tell you a sorcerer because all you got to do is just punch in, like John Melendez. I don't know. Hey, Jerry, can you have to be. Tell me with the URL. There it is. Vegas beer. He puts his friends to work.

That's what he always does. Like, I don't know how to do that. I'll just make my friend do it for me. Because I don't know how to... This is not my forte, if you will. What is your forte? Getting laughed at by an entire legion of people on the internet. I'd love to hear him bitching about Beth Stern and her assistant that she at least paid while he's arguing these people.

boxing them around. I meant to give my commentary on Stern's lawsuit. Like, it really all just come down to like this NDA that she's like, I never signed this NDA. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, you can't. And they get specific things in that NDA. You can't talk about our sleep schedule.

You can't talk about our hobbies. You can't talk about what we eat for dinner. It's like, why are you bringing these things up? Like, now you're making us want to know all those things. Oh, what do you eat for dinner? Yeah. Like sleep schedule. Like, is how we're not doing a morning show anymore?

Is you recording it the afternoon before? because that's what we all think. So now they're like bringing all this stuff up in the NDA. That makes us think like, oh, what specifically do they not want you to talk about? Because it's being a blanket that you can't say anything about what you've witnessed in this house, you know? It must be something as simple as like they don't want to reveal that they sleep in separate bedrooms because everyone's going to read into that.

They live in different wings. They don't see each other. Like shit like that. But of course, that's going to lead us to speculate on it. What is interesting about this. lawsuit. And I was kind of on the side of Howard and Beth when we talked about it on point devil point. Maybe I sell them. I don't know. It seemed weird that she was, you know, voluntarily employed by them, then gets fired and then says it was a hostile work environment. So, well, you didn't

quit. However, and now it's come out that she was promised to raise in December. In December, they're like, you're doing great. We're going to give you a raise. And then February, they fire her. So something happened between those two dates. And she's like, oh, well, if I'm fired, then I really want to tell people my story. And they're like, well, too bad you signed this NDA. He's like, no, I didn't. Like, no, there it is right there. She's like, that's not my signature.

It's not. Oh. It's just, her name's just typed down there. She's like, I never signed that NDA. I don't know why you guys think I signed an NDA. So that's what the lawsuit's about. He's downsizing. He's downsizing.

Anyway, that's what the lawsuit's about, which is actually. fascinating and I'm very interested to see what happens because for me I've worked in enough places where just disgruntled employees want to unlawful termination suit or whatever it is. It's like it didn't work out. I'm sorry. We all try it. I don't know. I don't know.

Go get a job somewhere else. It's fine. It's a big risk for an employee to take, especially if they work in that world because if this doesn't work out for them, they're never working in radio again. Just ask Opie. Right. But seriously. Black Bob by Howard's there.

Who's going to want a hire assistant that sued their former boss for the exact things celebrities are afraid of. Like, she must think she has a case. I don't know what it is, but it's fascinating. All right. I teased this earlier, Adam. This is the clip of the clips. This is the one I witnessed live when it happened.

And I went, wow. A super chat comes in. Earlier in the program, as Hughesie's on the show, John or a chatter brings up the fact that Hughesie's microphone has all these LEDs on it. And it's distracting and childish, right? So then the Super Chat comes in talking, referencing his microphone and check this out. Adam, that mic is so gay.

It's got food and security. Oh. That's the fuck up. Some of these people slip through. They slip through. Nice. That was a good one. I wonder what it means.

Oh, I don't know. that's a reference to John's middle daughter, Lily. We covered it on the show that she claimed she had food insecurities when she was in college. And she is gay. That Mike is so gay as food insecurities. And Jack goes, ha ha ha, he got me there. It's like, whoa, I thought talking about your kids are so off limits that it drives you into rage and get you like wanting to fight people in the bar and stuff. What just happened?

Why is he laughing at that? He's so drunk he thought they were talking about blind Mike. dude he he doesn't give a shit about his kids and vice versa he never did they were a shield i know i know but i just thought that that was such evidence of that i've never seen anything like it before he took two hundred dollars to let them promote and advertise making fun of his kid through posting that tweet and is apoplectic when you make fun of him that's all he cares about don't make fun of me. Watch Hughesy's reaction to this account. I'm sorry.

Husey, when he realizes the joke, this is a genuine laugh. Adam, that mic is so gay. It's got food and security dogs. That's the fuck, wow. That's a sober Husey right there. I just want to point out. I don't know about that, but you're right,

John did laugh. He did. His instinct was laughing. He goes, that's a pretty funny reference. It's pretty good. What Not Chaser with five bucks. on Supertip.g.g.w. W. ATP. Them that day, this is how a teacher adults that graduated NYU. Yeah, he's smart. Truly used his Jew magic to hypnotize Senorita Mini to record me.

It's true. We have various magics. That's true. Yeah, I can second that. Sorry, my dad converted. Um, we don't have any games today. Everyone's gearing up for Hackamania. We have some great games at Hackamania. Megan will be there.

And of course, Annie is on route. She's not here either. She'll be at Hackamania with us. You'll be there, Adam. You can watch us live or anytime thereafter by going to hackamania.com and, uh, purchasing the stream. You'll get all of the shows that are happening at Hackamania. Anything else you want to promote, my friend?

Oh, no, just that we're going to be there in Hackamania. and we want you all to join us. It's not too late. It's never too late to book a flight to Vegas, and it's certainly not too late to check it out on the stream. You're not going to want to miss this. I agree. You can still use promo code WATP if you want to buy tickets at hackamania.com.

Let's hit some voicemails, and then we'll get out of here. It's a bunch of crap. Swing in a mix. Rock and roll. John's got a show coming up at Poughkeepsie, New York. Pookeepsie. How do that pronounce that? Pookeepsie, New York.

He thought it was the night before his court hearing for some reason. It's April 17th. And I wonder who's going to show up to that. You know, Dave Smith comes to Poughkeepsie every year. And I am so much more looking forward to fucking John coming to Peky. Oh, this is going to be better than my content hotel. I fucking cannot wait. Yes, dablers will be showing up to Pekipsy, New York, to see Jen.

By the way, over 1,700 people watching live right now. Hit the like button. Are people hitting the like button, Adam? Are you watching? I haven't seen it, but it would be great if they did. It'd be great if they hit the like button. We appreciate you. And let Aaron know.

We have more viewers that. This is a guy from the monumental waste of time podcast, leaving a voicemail. Hi, Carl, how are you? This is Karen from Philly of the monumental Waste of Time podcast. We're recording right now. I just wanted to check in with you, man. Like, I've reached out to you a couple times, like about, you know, two, three times seriously

in my life and you know, maybe four or five times smart assy. Just trying to get in touch with you. We're a little confused about like where you stand on Joe. Like I'm getting the impression that you actually like him

but you know, but you have to criticize him and I understand that. But I really want to like talk to you because I have a really great idea for Joe. Okay. And we've been covering three friends in one booth. I have a really great idea for Joe called Late Stage Greatness,

which would be about his return to big time comedy. And I just want to run that by you see how you think about it. If you could give me a call, my number is 267-516-29-9. Okay. If you could please give me a call or text me, that would be amazing. What's going on right now, Adam? He said he was out of his show, so I assume, or her, whatever, she was there going on?

I assume I could just play the number because they said, hey, this is our show. I'm almost certain we shouldn't have done that. I'm almost certain. It can't be good. Well, they said they were doing their show at the time, so I assumed that was okay. I feel like those numbers are a mix of something not good. Oh. I'm just guessing because 516 is a Long Island area code.

Anyway, so that's what our voicemail line is for. It's not for booking or for putting together bits with us, FYI. I think Karen Feldman's calling that number right now. You know who did call that number was Heather W. Left her phone number on our voicemail items. I did not play that on the show. Good. This is funny.

Hey, Carl. I'm just getting up, greeting the day, kind of looking at the sun. and my first thought is, you live near a fucking car. Dude, I'll never stop getting cloned for that. Fucking John. Gets me every time. I should sue.

What? No, no, no. It's your lawsuit. I'm staying out of it. I just want you guys that have fun. That's fair it out. A quick question, and I want to preface this by saying,

I only listen to WATP. I don't listen to any other show in the devilverse because those guys are all fucking. DORCs. But what happened to Cardiff? Did he just fall off the face of the earth? Chris, call me back, please. That's a good question.

Cardiff used to come on the show pretty regularly. I always sent him the link. He'd make games for us. I'm excited to say the return of Cardiff will be at Hackamania. What? Topeka dabbler is making a comeback. Wow. Yes.

Cardiff made a special game for Hackamania for us. So he just got a little burned down on the stuttering job stuff. That's all. He wrote me. He's just like, I can't anymore with this time. I get it. You got to respect that.

He's making two games a week for a very long time. It's a lot of work putting those together, so I appreciate it. But go check out, check out Cardiff at Cardiff Elect. He does great work over there on his channel. Yes, we all enjoy his unique brand of low-key hostility. That's true. People are running shirts. He was love you, love the show.

John said that he wanted $30,000 for his surgery. He was going to start a go-fund me. Isn't that the amount of money that you? you guys raised initially with GoFundee from Dr. Steve. I know it's a little bit more, but it seems like John is trying to balance the scales a little bit because he was so angry that you guys were able to raise money and he didn't want that.

Don't call me back. Nothing pisses him off more than seeing that GoFundMe number. He's still stewing about it. He's still upset. And you're, you heard quirky there go, you start to go fund me to stick it to Carl and Shulie. I don't count other people's money. I don't give a fuck.

if John raised $100,000 tomorrow, it wouldn't change my day. So the fact that you're going to stick it to me by raising money. But obviously it does affect people like Corky and John because they see that money. They're like, God damn it. Why are they getting the money? Yeah, he listed that as something that had happened to him was a good thing that had happened to you. Right. He's also like a real homeless hobo who like doesn't know how to be rich.

You can't believe he ever had money because when he dreams of it, it's always 30,000 or 40. It's just this random catch-all number that will fix everything in his life, even though he's blown through millions. Right. Well, someone in the chat pointed out, he said 30,000. I think that's where he's going on. He started out at 15,000. He's made 225 of it, which is not a high percentage.

Kind of embarrassing. Always been a great negotiator. Discount Don Jameson with $5 Canadian. Oh, hey, guys. Oh, hey, Don. The year is 2030. What are you both doing, and where is the dabble verse? Whoa.

I didn't know there's going to meet an interview question. So four years from now, Adam, what do you think? Well, Rob Saul is obviously the new Duke. Okay, that makes sense. He falls off the wagon. Yeah, I've replaced Ron on Opie and Ron. Okay. It's now Opie and Adam.

That's good. Yeah, that's a good question. Where is the devil verse in 2030? It's grown so much in recent months even. I'm just, it's just getting a lot of attention and a lot more people are coming in and enjoying it. So it's been growing and maybe it takes over the internet. Maybe it becomes a household name. Maybe you walk into the office and you just go,

I checked out the devil verse this week. I'm like, oh shit, did you see what Hughesy said? And Schmiel Buckman's show? I was like, yeah, of course. When all the people that love the Howard Stern show and love Opie and Anthony, when all of them learn that there is something that is picking up, you know, where they left off and trying to keep that spirit alive, I think when Howard retires.

and Opie's, you know, confesses to his crimes. I think there'll be a slot there for us to take over. Yeah, that wasn't a Chaunty hate and it's fun. We're having fun over here. Everyone's cool. Yeah, Chaunty ain't talking about it said it's a, it's a hell cesspool and then just cannot stop ragging on John in the worst way possible. That was hilarious, wasn't it?

I didn't even pull all the clips. He said so much shit about John and chili for that better. But those fuckers are mean to that alcoholic, deadbeat loser. All right, this is a longer story, but worth it, I think. It's funny. Carl. Calling in for WATP, man. I just got back from Hawaii, 10-day trip there.

Anyways, you know, flew in a nice seat, all that. My wife and I were sitting there. My daughter's asleep on her one and a half-year-old. I look over. She's watching that heated rivalry. Holy shit, dude, it was like gay fucking porn. I mean, I'm a problem with the gay. Whatever, dude.

But that, like, holy shit, dude. I was like, what's on your phone? She's like, I can't. She's right. It was the whole thing, dude. My wife was watching gay porn on a plane. That's it. All right.

Got to go. I can't go anywhere that people talking about heated rivalry. Have you watched this show, Adam? I have not. Are you curious about it? Are you bi-curious about it? No, I've always been very secure with who I am, but I do love hockey. I love hockey, too.

It just sounds like it's a lot more gay sex than it is. Action on the ice. Yes, it does. But no matter who sees it, they're all like, It's so good. Isn't that crazy? That seems to be the case. All right.

I bet it's awesome. I'm sure it's great. I'm going to leave you guys with this. The dabble of horse is a bad scene. I got to go. Bye. I got to go. I got to go.

I got to go. Okay. Bye. Man, that was a good episode. That was a good episode. I enjoyed that. All right. Ready to roll the credits?

Yep. All right, guys. Bye. Until next time. Bye. Bye. This is it. It's over.

Okay. Goodbye. Goodbye. Hey, bye. Goodbye. Okay, folks. Guess what? The episode's over.

Over. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. Bye. This is where producer Chris will put on the drive. out that makes me giggle, but alas. We were talking about shit.

We were talking about shit. There you go. That's perfect. All right, guys, thanks for hanging out. I was a marathon stream. See a lot of you in Vegas. I'll see you in Vegas, Adam. See you in Vegas.

Later.