Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 128 - Andy Matthews, Lena Moon and Suren Jayemanne

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. This episode features Andy Matthews (Two in the Think Tank), Lena Moon (Twitch) and Suren Jayemanne (Good Tucker)!Check out Matt's stand up special: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESupport the show via http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!See the podcast/Matt live: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, it is the titular Matt Stewart, just letting you know before we get into the show that I am about to be in Adelaide! March 11th to the 15th doing my new show Bad Boy, also doing a live Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. These are all at the Rhino Room and you can get tickets via mattstuartcomedy.com or you know, just find it by the Adelaide Fringe website, either way. And then doing the Melbourne International Comedy Festival as well in April at Spleen Bar. Get on over to mattstewettcomedy.com. You're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. Welcome to Who Knew It with Matt Sture at the show where the guests write the wrong answers. I'm the titular Matt Sture and our first guest is touring his new show, There's a World Where

My Head Ought to Be. It's Sarenjai Mana. Hello guest is touring his new show. There's a world where my head ought to be it's serenjo mana Hello. Yeah, that is it. That's coming to Adelaide and Melbourne. That's the tour so far But wait, yeah, when is this coming out this episode in February great like soon. Oh Well, then you've got a month till it all starts, but it's exciting, it's got a great poster, and it's a well written show. Yep. I never know how to plug things. Well I think you nailed that.

Thanks. Because I think you could, if you, the less you said there probably would have been the better because now I think there's some doubt in people's minds that is it actually well written? That's what I'm thinking. Never give details, yeah, devil is in the details. Complete silence next time. No comment.

Our second guest this week is touring her show, Rube Goldberg machine. Welcome Lena Moon. Hi. It's exciting to be here. My show is also... No, my show is about me trying to buy a projector from a JB Hi-Fi. And it goes for an hour.

That's awesome. Yeah, that's the show. My post is not as good as yours though. Yours is pretty good. Thank you. I had nothing to do with it. No, actually I really liked the font and then I guess the rest of the poster is just me. So I might need to investigate that.

Yeah, no, it's good. The font's really, yeah. The post is good. Your show is also well written but you're mostly referring to the font. Yeah. Yeah. Our third guest this week is host of Two and the Think Tank.

It's Andy Matthews. That's right. Hello. Host. I'm used to co-host. I was taken aback. I didn't realise Alistair had left the podcast. This is a terrible way to find out. But you know what? I'm glad it came from a friend. Is that is that the kind of is that right?

You can't host a show together. You have to co-host. I think if I claim to just be the host of the two in the Think Tank podcast, I feel very dirty claiming that I feel that's wrong. I have only half of a host or your know, you're the host. One of two hosts. Your sidekick. That's how you normally do it.

That's what we talk about in the secret Discord that we have without our staring at me and the fans of the show. But I'd rather not, you know, put that out there on the public record. Okay, well we'll just say we were joking then. Yeah. It's such a good gag, guys.

Thank you so much. Well written too. Yeah. So the way the show works is ask a relatively obscure trivia question and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer. I then read their answers as well as the real one and I have to guess which one is correct. Hey, well, I've got you. Why not follow us on Instagram, Facebook, etc. Who knew it? Pod. We're filming this episode and I'll maybe put a clip up if I remember.

So. The last time I was on and you said you were gonna put a clip up, you never put a clip up. And I was checking. Oh my god. Regularly. Okay, well I should. I'm gonna get into that more. I think we're starting to find out why Al left the think tank. I do, you know, throughout that whole episode after you told us you were recording, I was, part of my brain was always thinking, is this it? Is this the tidbit? Are we doing it now? Is this clip worthy? Apparently there was nothing quite worthy of clipping. All right, so the first question comes from a listener, Kelsey Prowse, given a handy pronunciation guide, rhymes with mouse or house. Kelsey Prowse from Mount Gambier in South Australia.

Oh my gosh, that is near Adelaide where you're doing your show. Yeah, come on down. Kelsey runs with mouse. Would love to have you at the show. Her name is Prowse. Yeah. You remembered the remembering convention. Not the name. Yeah, that was a pitfall that she set me up for. Because in my head, I had grouse or mouse, and I knew that neither of those were the...

But anyway. Well, Kelsey's question is, what is a Miffah? What is a Miffah? Oh. While you're writing those answers, I can tell the listeners a little bit more about how the scoring works. I should also say Lena and I are also at the Adelaide Fringe and Adelaide Kelsey. If you want to come to our shows as well, you could do that too. Same week.

Yeah, you and me. Yeah. Probably people could go back to back. Yeah, if you want to come to our show as well, you could do that too. Same week. Yeah, you and me. Yeah. Probably people could go back to back. Yeah, if they want. Are you a rhino? If they're ready for it. Yeah, rhino. What time? 8.45. Oh, oh, we clash. No. So they got to come two nights out. Yeah, two nights out or come to my show and go, excuse me, got to go to the bathroom.

And they will have missed my show because I'm an age 15. Mrs. Doubtfire way between two shows. So I have just got to pop out for a moment. While they're writing their answers, here's how the scoring works. You get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other contestant, and another point if you correctly guess the answer.

And by the way, I'm also playing as the house. I've put into a moment fake answers for each question. And yeah, with the help of the question writers as well. And we get a point. I like to think of the question writers and the listeners and me all being part of the house. It's us against the contestants, you know? I think of you listeners as part of the house.

So, you know, next live show, you don't have to boo because you're one with the house. You know, there's plenty of room. Did you get booze at your last live show? At nearly all the live shows, the house gets booed. Which is fine. Yeah, because that little sort of soliloquy is new. Yeah, there's a lot of defense here.

I think it's funny to call yourself the house at a gig. Yeah, yeah. But I was again, I was concentrating on the tasks, so I only heard, did you make that joke and I just repeated it? No, no, no. Okay. No, no. Because I didn't mean I wouldn't call it a joke.

I very seriously call myself the house at the shows. Oh, that's nice. And it, I mean, I'll do it tonight as well. Makes you sound like a casino. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's where that's from So anyway, each of us can scrub to three points per round which seems fair But the probability actually favors me the house and the house always wins

So if you've listened to previous episodes, you know that it's not necessarily the case. You gotta stop saying that man They say that about casinos Anyway, most of our questions come from our great Patreon supporters. If you want to submit a question, sign up on any of our Patreon.com slash dugongpod linked in the show notes. I think some people think that that is pre-recorded. I think today's episode proves that it's done fresh every week. Like Subway sandwiches, baked, but still somehow stale.

How do they do it? How do they bake them right there in front of you and still make them taste like they've been there for months? It's incredible. But seriously, Matt, I'm going to try and use this episode to tell you you've got to stop feeling bad about being the house and winning as the house and scoring points on this game. I feel like you were like, I don't know why, but you were really cruel to yourself about this and it's a really nice thing that you do making the show and having people on and letting us play this game that you've made that is a lot of joy. Every time when I listen and you apologize for, you, you, um, apologize for, you know, getting points as the house and you don't even like, you don't even give

yourself a chance to win because of this three point final round thing. It's like, I want you to know that it's okay. You are okay. You are enough and you deserve success and happiness. And I'm, you know, that's important to me. And I think it's important to the listeners and I'm you know that's important to me and I think it's important to the listeners and I'm in a privileged position to be thank you to be able to say it to your face. I don't know if you know this Matt but that's actually the model of casinos as well. They want to win. Because, they always, yeah. Oh, no, they do want to win. Because if they lose, they have to give their money away.

Yeah. That's just a little fact that people might not know. Is that true? That's something to do with, yeah, right, there you go. The answers are in. Here's question number one. What is a Miffah? A long stick with a wet furry hook on the end

used in ice hockey to retrieve underwear and hot dogs thrown onto the ice by fans. It's option one, option two. A person who wanders around in a constant state of amazement in awe of even the most mundane. It's option two, option three. An apparatus used to perform fluffing of couch cushions. Option four, a person who adds milk to their cup

before pouring in the tea. That's option four, a person who adds milk to their cup before pouring in the tea. That's option four, perhaps. Option five, an inflatable cushion lawn bowlers use to protect their knees. Or finally, someone who introduces themselves to someone and then provides a rhyming guide with a variety of options that ends up leaving the other person rather miffed. Example, tiff rhymes with miff or stiff, to which the other person responds, nice to meet you, stiff. Sorry, miff.

Sorry, tiff. Oh, whoa. We've been inception. Yeah, whoa. So it's either a type of person or a type of thing, right? It feels like that's the way it breaks down. And I guess, you know, maybe I'm just describing the two categories of objects.

So maybe that's one. I'm realizing what I'm saying isn't actually all that insightful. As I was having the thought, I thought, you know what? That's quite an interesting way of breaking this down. People will wanna hear. And then as I was saying it, I was thinking, well, no, you're just saying those are those are things those are words.

And it's even split three things three people. Yeah. So I think it was I think it was well worth saying I don't think you should beat yourself up about that. I was being a real Max Stewart wasn't I? And I'm not gonna do that anymore. So you got the long stick with a wet furry hook person wondering around. Why is it wet? I think it just gives better grip being wet so it's like a mop you know. It distresses me to see you ask a follow-up question because I was convinced that was your answer. Or maybe, just maybe, you're messing with me. You're this good at the game. Well now I have to ask a follow-up question about all of them. The second one's a person who wanders around in a constant state of amazement.

Why would a person be doing that? An apparatus used to fluff couch cushions, someone who adds milk before the tea, an inflatable cushion for lawn bowlers, or someone who introduces themselves to someone and then provides a rhyming guide. Variety of options. Two sort of sport kind of ones. I'm good. And two cushiony ones. And two stick ones. We're so good at seeing patterns.

Category. There's actually a lot more objects than people and things. That really distresses me, that sentence. I'm gonna say it sounds so much like a name that a lawn bowls person would give to something. Like a Miffah. Whoever wrote that, whether it was one of us or God himself has done such a great job,

I'm going to choose that one. OK. Lorne Bowles, please. What about you, Saran? I'm going to lock in the hot dogs in the NHL, in the ice hockey, purely because I feel like America is very capitalistic kind of place. People are definitely, they throw heaps of stuff onto the rink in America and I reckon someone would be like, I'm going to invent, I've seen on Dragon's Den, I can

picture it. This is a Miffer, this is for, yeah. So it's not retrieving them so the game can continue, it's people who've seen a business opportunity and said, I can resell this hot dog and it's been on the ice, ice famously kids. It's been chilled, it's been chilled. Yeah. It's a cold dog,, ice famously. It's been chilled, it's been chilled. Yeah. Yeah. It's the original state. It's the cold dog, I just invented the cold dog.

Yeah, exactly. I'm locking it in. All right, locked in, that leaves you, Lena. I, like, I wanted to do the lawn balls one too, cause it really felt like it was that one. But I feel like we've been big brained, and the introduction is some sort of clue to the answer. Like, they've done that.

I'm going to let myself be hoodwinked by someone and say that it's the final one where it's the right man, even though I'm pretty, pretty, pretty aware that it's a joke. Yeah, you are you fucking insane? Like I get once again, I get once again, I hate to flaunt my status as a big listener of the show, but occasionally when I'm listening somebody makes a choice that is so bad I actually can't believe that it's really happening. And here I am actually getting to watch it happen in real time. And I feel like I should do something. Like I feel a responsibility to like throw myself

in front of the microphone and stop you. Amy, what do you think's at stake here? What do you think's at stake here? My intelligence? I'm smart, it's in different ways. Do you think my, like what do you, honestly, it's not like we get squid game to the end of this. Can we stop the recording? It's just like, honestly, it's not like we get squid game at the end of this. Can we stop the recording?

It's just like, okay, it's pretty obvious that you're the only woman on the podcast at the moment. That's obvious, yeah. And as such, and I know this is an unfair pressure to put on women, especially in comedy, but like you are at the moment representing other women. And when you make choices like this, I just really worry about what it does, how it comes across.

Okay. Think about, think about if you were a young woman starting out in comedy, now listen to this. What would they want to see? And what would it, what would that make you feel about your role in a room like this, you know? Yeah, it's interesting because I would be like, maybe we're at a point where women are allowed to be stupid again. But we absolutely are. Yeah, but on their own terms.

Yeah. This time it's not foisted upon them, it is the choice. Especially when there's a man they're telling you if you're right. Yeah. Like, he's in control. I just really wanna pick that one. Okay.

Now that it's locked in, can I say, I hope Andy doesn't campaign against my answers that hard for the rest of the show. The thing is, is that unfortunately, now there's been a fuss made. It's my mission for the rest of the podcast to pick every answer that I can pick. I think I might win this episode.

Because nothing has brought me joy more than what just happened. And I've been to Disneyland with like a private guide. It was the best day of my life, but I think that beat it. What about a rhyming guide? You mean my answer. Let's go through who wrote the answers, let's find out. Kelsey actually wrote the one about a person who wanders around in a constant state of amazement. Lena wrote the one about the apparatus used to perform the fluffing of couch cushions. That's a good option. I thought it was pretty good.

That's a really good option. See, I bring it. I actually thought that was the right answer. Lena went for the one about the rhyming go. Uh, example, Tiff rhymes with Miff or Stiff. To which the other person responds, nice to meet you, Stiff. Sorry, Miff. Sorry, Tiff.

Ah, that was Saran. Oh, I've been hoodwinked. You've been... small brained, haven't you? I've been hoodwinked! You've been... small brain-dumped. I've been brain-dumped! Small brain-dumped. And it won't be the last time! Oh. Uh, Saran went for a long stick with a wet furry hook at the end.

That was Andy Matthews. Which, Lena, you did call... Yeah. You, see? You saw right through me. Did I saw right? How many layers of this game are you playing? Actually, you're right as well, because the fur, like the ice,

the rink might keep the hot dog fresh, but the furry hook would be capturing all sorts of bacteria. You're right, it doesn't make any sense. That's your flaw. That's your flaw. That's your flaw. Okay. Andy went for an inflatable cushion that Warn Bowls use.

Unfortunately, that was God himself, aka the house slime. Yeah. Meaning that no one got the correct answer. A person who adds milk to their cup before pouring the tea. You know as a person, we all pick things. Yeah. I'll tell you why.

That doesn't need a name Mmm, I would say that action doesn't need its own label This is a problem. You can't take names away from things once things have a name you can't you can't withdraw it Just stop using them. Mmm Denaming. Mmm. We'll have a denaming I really don't think it's caught on that much because like in searching for more information There aren't a lot of references to it. It has the vibe of like oh this is my nickname and everyone's like I'm not calling you that. Like no. Dave Warnocky tried to get Cobra going for him and yeah. That that exclusively feels like that nickname is

for people who have been to jail. And as far as I know not appropriate for Dave, yeah other people who've been to jail or people who have a flared foreskin Yeah Milk in first Miffah and apparently tea in first people are called Tifas. Okay. Seren I think came up with a rhyming guide for that. So Seren gets a point, which it's rare for you to get a point early Seren, I hope you can rhyme this all the way home.

You are welcome. The house also gets a point and Andy gets a point. I don't know if it'll make the edit if it did. The woman has to score. No, don't put that in. Well, can I have a point for guessing it was Andy? Has that ever happened? But you did.

Well, did you guess? You hypothesized. Alright, language is important. I'm happy to give pity points if... Okay, let's not call it that. Never mind. Alright, we're up to round two. Question number two comes from Kayla Hodquitz Never mind. All right, we're up to round two. Question number two comes from Kayla Hodquitz from Lemoyne in Maine, one of our

regular question writers. We've got a few who send in so many questions. I've started doing it that I'm giving at least one every 10 episodes. So rotate the questions around a bit. I could just about call it the Kayla Hodquit's rule because Kayla sends in so many great questions. Same as Jim Bates from Sacketts Harbor, New York. Yes. A name that I know so well just off the top of their dome. You're doing great things for Sacketts Harbor visibility. Well I think Jim Bates

is really putting Sacketts Harbor on the map. Sacketts Harbor. It's freaking fun to say by the way. As is Kayla Hodquit's. I mean if anybody deserves a name, a rule named after them. really putting Sackett's Harbor on the map. Sackett's Harbor, it's fricking fun to say by the way. As is Kayla Hodquits. I mean, if anybody deserves a name, a rule named after them, it's her. In fact, I might take away Miffah's name and give it to her. Okay.

You know Miffah's not a single person. Yeah. So Kayla's question is, which of the following is a real name of an amphibian? You know Mipha's not a single person. So Kayla's question is, which of the following is a real name of an amphibian? So you've got to give us a real amphibian species. You know, you've got all sorts. What have you got? You've got frogs, toads, newts, salamanders. The list goes on. While you're writing your answers, here's some more info on Mifas. Kelsey writes, a Mifra is the term to describe a person who adds milk in first. Kelsey also writes, what kind of psychopath would even consider adding the milk first?

But here are some arguments for Mifas, as provided by Kelsey. Prevents uneven heating. Adding milk to hot tea can cause it to heat unevenly which can Denature the milk's proteins this can cause the milk to lose flavor and form a sticky skin on the top of the tea Also cools down the tea adding milk first can cool down the tea which can prevent China from breaking Really? I mean geez how hot is your tea? Disrupt a whole nation. It can also reduce the bitterness of the tea. But Kelsey asked the question, how did the Queen make her tea? According to her former butler, Grant Harold, unsurprisingly, Lizzie was a stickler for tradition. The Queen drank loose-leaf tea which once brewed poured through a strainer into a bone china cup before a splash of milk was added which makes her a tiffer.

Tea in first. I get it now. Long may she reign. Mmm. Alright the answers are in for question number two. Which of the following is the real name of an amphibian? Tiger-legged monkey frog, Isaac on Newt, and this dry-sobbing froglet, the screaming tree frog, the horn-breasted water dragon, or the great ocean toad? OK, well. They all sound pretend. They do, that is it, isn't it?

They really do. If I were to categorise these names, and I will, I would put them in the category of sounds pretend. Pretend sounding names. They sound like a kid saw something and said it. I think, yeah, I mean, that's what scientists are, deep down, isn't it? Just kids seeing stuff and said it. I think yeah I mean that's what scientists are deep down isn't it? Just kids seeing stuff and writing it down. That's why I think I'm gonna go with Isaac on Newt.

It is my favourite of the answers but also it feels conceivable that a scientist with a sense of humour might be like pitch it to their other scientist colleagues. Yeah, that's clever. I'm like convinced that's Debate yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What do you think Lena can Can I, sorry, can I, there was, can I hear, there was a great ocean. Great ocean toad. That's just a great pun. Scientists are famous for a pun. You'll see the horn-breasted water dragon. That's a very, that's very high on the list for me. Yeah, that one sounds real. Evans dry sobbing froglet. See, that one, that one, that one sounds real. The Screaming Tree Frog. Evans Dry Sobbing Froglet.

See, that one is, that one, that one is Andy's maybe. And to be honest with you, I picked that one. Oh wow. What are you, Paul? I love how you're playing this game. I am playing Lena's game, which is my this. It's like this. I think Lena's really hot quits in this game. Or Tiger Leg Monkey Frog is the other one.

No, I'm going to go with the one that. Evans dry sobbing froglet. OK. Dry sobbing. That sounds unsatisfying. It sounds like an urban dictionary definition for like a sex thing. Um, that happens to, you know, that like teenage boys are like, have you ever done that? And it's like, none of them are fucked ever. Like, it's like, um, yeah, that's what I'm going to go with.

OK, um, it's got to be either the screaming froglet or the horned thing. Froglet? Screaming frog? Just screaming tree frog? Ah, screaming tree frog. For a second I was like, it can't be screaming because frogs don't make any noise, but then I was like, no wait, they famously do. So back to square one.

Nothing in space. I'm back to square one. In space, no one can hear frogs scream. I'm gonna go with the screaming tree frog. In space no one can hear frogs scream. I'm gonna go with the screaming tree frog. Alright, screaming tree frog for Andy. Here's the answers. Great ocean toad, that was Saren. Well done. You're gonna do us a favour by always putting Saren's as the last one?

Well, I mean, it's a bit of a trick I do sometimes, but the funniest one lasts. And that does tend to be Just ran that was random chance I just change them at random at the end there. Yeah, cuz I The Horn breasted water dragon and he was so close to that was Lena. Whoa, you almost lured me in with your- And I can't tell you how much I would have lauded that over you had that happened. And I really, I felt it happening and I was like, just agree with him when it says it sounds real then you can-

I want you to know I was never gonna choose it. We can't prove that. I just pretended to entertain it to cast, you know, just to cast a bit more. Yeah well we can't prove that. There's actually no way to prove that. Okay. Andy went for the screaming tree frog. Would you read what I've written in this envelope please?

Whoa. Andy went for the screaming tree frog. Would you read what I've written in this envelope please, Stuart? Whoa! Andy went for the screaming tree frog, which was... The correct answer! And we don't need to hear any of the others. Haler, I'm afraid. That was a Hodgwitsk. I've got Hodgwitsk! I dunno, it might be a reference to the grunge band, the screaming trees. Mark Lanigan's old band.

Perhaps. The Evans dry sobbing froglet? Lena went for that, even though she said that was Andy's, and yes it was Andy's. So thank you very much. I don't know what game you're playing, but you did tell me last time you broke the game. I'm starting to believe you now. I'm so sorry. You know what, there are people listening right now who are so annoyed by you. Matt, I'm really sorry, I have earnestly made a career of it.

It's all I do on Twitch. Like I fire up a game and I'm like, but what if I turned this into something else and a lot of people leave? Yeah. I will stop. I'll stop. I respect that you're not really breaking the game for everybody. You're just ruining it for yourself.

And I think that's, you know, that's nice. It's entertaining. For sure. No, I'll stop. I'll try and play it will be so satisfying for you to come over and win from here. It's more like you've started a third of the way through the game. I will um I will fight all my instincts. Then Saran went for Isaac on nude I'm afraid that was the house got himself me um no one got the correct answer. Tiger-legged monkey frog.

I do like that one. Too many animals. Yeah, it sounds that one. Three animals in one. Of all of them. Is that the one you're talking about, Lan or a kid came up with that? Yeah, because it's like you can't use another animal to describe an animal. But once you have a look at it. That's right. Where does it end? Yeah is quite common, you know It's like tiger snake Okay, but to that oh it is that is a tiger lucky Yeah, exactly because all frogs look like that yeah, well get this I call it a target like a frog-legged frog frog. Yeah, exactly. That's some frog legs.

Tock-a-legged green frog. This is the thing. They don't hop. They walk in a way that makes them look like monkeys, apparently. Scratching under their arms and eating a banana. The way that it looks when monkeys walk. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. You know, like that. Yeah. Because I associate monkeys with climbing and swinging more than I do. But I know, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, like that. Yeah. Because I associate monkeys with climbing and swinging more than I do. But I know the walk that we're, all right, agreed. Mm. Just became a bit like a primate.

A primate. A primate there. Yeah. The same sort of energy and, yeah. And enthusiasm. That's an episode of primates. But. What do you mean by that?

We are absolutely tearing each other apart tonight, mate. I love it. I love it. No one will get out of here alive. And no listener will get through understanding exactly what's going on. No. Referencing other things that people don't necessarily understand. Spending five minutes just doing sort of visual impersonations of a monkey. That could be a clip. It might be though.

That won't now. I didn't feel it. In the moment I was like this isn't a clip. This isn't a clip. This isn't clip-able. No. Question three comes from Piper Gallaher from Eugene, Oregon. And the question is, what is the name of track four on car seat headrests 2016 album Teens

of Denial. What's the name of track four on Car Seat Headrests 2016 album, Teens of Denial? While you're writing your answers, I'll let the listeners know a bit more about these fun little frogs. This is according to the Cleveland Zoological Society. Native to the swamp lands of South America, these tree frogs are also commonly known as the Waxy Monkey Tree Frog. They have wax secreting glands on their back, elbows and butt. I guess that's where the waxing comes from. The wax is rubbed all over their bodies, sealing in moisture and allowing these tree frogs

to take advantage of drier conditions. Unlike most frogs, the Tiger Legged Monkey frog does not jump from place to place, but rather walks like a monkey, hence its name. The tiger-legged monkey frog has an orange underbelly that is covered in small black stripes, much like a tiger. Not a coincidence. This tree frog looks like a tiger on its lower half, a normal green frog on its upper half and walks like a monkey.

We think it's the coolest frog in Cleveland." That's according to the Cleveland Zoological Society. The answers are in. Here is question three. What is the name of track four on Car Seat Headrest 2016 album, Teens of Denial? Ouch. I've been bitten by the love bug brackets. Will you suck out the venom? Who's got the... Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Option two.

Untitled four. Option three. Open bracket. Joe gets kicked out of school for using, close brackets, drugs with friends. Open bracket, but says this isn't a problem.

Close bracket. Oh, the rare double bracket. It's like a maths equation. Yeah, you've got to solve the bracketed areas first. Yeah. Or what do Americans call them? Parentheses. Parentheses.

Oh my God. See? See, there's stuff in there. Yeah, it's coming in. Did you do a whole do go on on grandma? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Parentheses, open bracket, brackets, closed parentheses. Option four, Curds and Jared way. Option five, lasagna is the pasta version of a book.

Open bracket, a book is the word version of lasagna. Close bracket. Or or finally dad why? So you got ouch have been bitten by the love bug when you suck out the venom untitled for You got the the rare double bracket Joe gets kicked out of school using drugs with friends, but said it isn't a problem kids and Jared way Lasagna is the passer version of a book a book is the word version of a lasagna. What, Dad, why? I actually like this band. Yeah. And I listen to them.

Oh, I can't remember. They're like. Anyway, this is hot. I think I have a guess. I don't think it would have been sent in if it was untitled for and I don't think it would have been sent in if it was the dad. Why and I don't think it would have Been sent in if it was the dad why? Right, so I think it's one of the other four I think yeah, I have a theory but I'm trying to remember like it's like I can remember that I listened to car seat headrest

But I can't remember what the music sounds like. Does anyone ever had that feeling? Oh, yeah Yeah Does anyone ever had that feeling? Oh yeah. Yeah? Yeah, I think I've had that file. I listen to a lot of her. All you can do is read the title on the file, but you can't actually access any of the data. Yeah, I can't access it. Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember.

I was the same as you. I didn't, it didn't stand out to me, but I'm sure I used to listen to them. Could you run them through me? I think I know what it is. Run me through more one last time Yes Just and you can do it in just in gist form out of being bitten by the lovebug. Yep, I'm total four Yep, Joey gets kicked out of school for using drugs Kurds and Jared way was under as a pasta version, right?

Yeah, dad why right? What is Jared way? Is that a reference? I think it's good. He's a musician. He's He wrote the Umbrella Academy comic, I think, and he's also My Chemical Romance front man. Oh, OK. Yeah, I think it's Coates and Jared. That's my guess, but it could also be the lasagna one. Yeah, I like I feel like they actually do have it. Not that you meant to bring in prior knowledge.

Yeah, please. I think that's so cool. Drugs with Friends. So all the parentheses going on, I don't remember that. But you don't need to, that makes it long. I think the Drugs with Friends is to me the most appealing and I think somebody who has listened to the podcast would enjoy the double parentheses and would like to draw that to Matthew Stewart's attention.

So you're both going with the drug one? I'm gonna go with the double parentheses. I'm gonna be so mad when I find this out because I'm going to be like, I'm an idiot. Are you locked in? I'm going to lock in the Kurds one. Okay. Here's who wrote the answer. You could have scooped this. You could have made bloody fools of us. No, because I don't remember any of it. I remember like, I remember, anyway. You know what? I don't feel good about Anyway. You know what? I don't feel good about copying Sarenne's answer because I feel like I was influenced by him.

I know I've locked it in but is it too late for me to change my answer? You can always, yeah. If you plead undue influence. Leading the witness. Oh my god. But one of them's mine and I've already ruled out two of the others. So I don't really have any choices, do I? Which one's yours?

Well, I've just established we've just learned it's a light lock, so I'm not going to change mine now. I'm not going to tell you what mine is because I don't want to. It's been zipped. The answers have been zipped. Yeah, they've been zipped on. They're ready to transfer efficiently. Um, I'll go back to sort of the one same as jumping back on in bed with Saren. Okay, yeah, they always come back in bed with Saren.

That's the undue influence. All right, here's the right the answers. Ouch have been bitten by the love bug. Oh, that was the other one. I should have gone to that one. Will you suck out the venom? That was Piper. Okay, such a would have gone I should have gone to that one Will you suck out the venom that was Piper? Okay? One it does sound I've forgotten that it's at the tone I think mmm. Yeah, there were there was a lot of brackets Yeah, but but it feels like car seat headrest would use brackets Yeah, I mean even that the band names long like a shoe. Yeah, he's banned out They like they're very like they're kind of I know them. I just like I there was a phase I listened to them

But anyway, sorry, this is driving me crazy Wikipedia calls them indie rock. Okay, I'm way off then Jared way off. Yeah, Another one, which is absolutely not going to be the answer. But Luzania is the passer version of a book. That was Andy Matthews. Thank you. Oh, OK. It had that like cheeky. Yeah. Vibe, you know, if the question was, what is a Garfield quote? I wouldn't pick that.

I can't remember what I've said so far. Untitled for Saran. I said that. Yeah, I thought I'd put in. I thought it'd be a little curveball that might trick you. But now I wish for the fun of it, I made it untitled parentheses for. Dad, why? That was leaner.

Yeah. Curds and Jared way, I'm afraid was the house. Meaning that Saran and Andy are corrected is Joe gets kicked out of high school for using drugs with friends and says this isn't a problem so that is a long time yeah but that's that's that's fair yeah that's the band yeah we're doing it that's who they. See what happens when I try to play Matt? I end up. That's pretty similar to what you did when you didn't try to play. I like it though. Yeah, except that I have to feel the sting of rejection.

Yeah, but not this. Now you've failed on every conceivable level. Now I've actually failed because I tried. Yeah. I think you're still right in this. We'll see. Well at the halfway mark, scores are, yeah to score Lina. On two points to Saren, three points to Andy but out in front of four points is the hole. Yeah. Boo. That feels right. The next one comes from Joff from Kolek and from LOL Radio. Oh Joff. Hey Joff. Joff. Hey Joff. We've probably all been interviewed by Joff. I haven't. Not me. Me and Serena have been interviewed by Joff. LAUGHTER Joff's question is,

what is the title of Gene Simmons' autobiography? Gene Simmons, the bass player from Kiss? Kiss, yeah. What was his autobiography called? Released in 2010, I think. This doesn't feel obscure enough to be a question on this podcast. Yeah, you what you wouldn't. I reckon I know the answer.

OK, everybody reads. Everybody reads. Everybody reads. Everyone reads. I don't. I don't. I enjoy a bit of literature. Andy, I should say, if you do know the answer, so please play the game as if you don't

and don't give it away that way. I'm gonna play it right up until, like up to and including definitely getting the wrong answer. While you're writing your answers, here's some more info about that car seat headrest song. Piper writes, one time I went to a car seat headrest concert

and I had an anxiety attack. Oh. Yeah. Um, it also said this song is about a guy who's experiencing a bad trip with lines like, last Friday I took acid and mushrooms. I did not transcend. I felt like a walking piece of shit in a stupid looking jacket.

And also the line, there was one guy there who kept asking me, how does it feel? And I didn't even know how to begin to answer that question. So I just said, I don't wanna talk about it. Hey, while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. With the Fizz loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan, You know, for texting and stuff.

And if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz. Switch today. Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. All right, we're back. Your answer in for question number four. What is the title of Gene Simmons' autobiography?

Sex, Money and Rock and Roll in that order. Oh, that's pretty good. Sealed with a kiss. That's option two. Option three. I want to lick and lol all night. Open bracket, apartheid was not okay. Open bracket.

Open bracket. Uh, option four. Kiss and make up. Option five, thank God I didn't choose the cat face makeup. That's really good. Or finally, the Vagene Simmons monologues. That's really good as well. And he would do that. He would.

And that would have been probably, did you say it was 2010? 2010, yeah. That's gonna be, that's gotta be peak Vagene monologue. So sex, money and rock and roll in that order, sealed with a kiss, I wanna lick and lol all night. What the fuck? That was not okay. Kiss and make up. Thank god I didn't choose that cat face make up or the Lejean Simmons monologues. I think it's, I don't know, like it is about, like the bad pun ones are kind of making me feel like that would get published.

But again, I don't want to be honest and be hoodwinked. I would much rather be naughty and never show my cards. Be vulnerable. Oh, if I had a dollar for every time my therapist asked me to do that, I would have two dollars. Oh, that's enough. That's a pattern. Yeah. Yeah, we're working on it.

But yeah, it feels like it's the like sealed with a kiss one or the kiss, the kiss and makeup kiss and makeup one. Yeah, because they have sort of the published ones. I reckon. Who's the front man of? I always thought it was him. Paul Stanley. Well, yeah, they both, they split the front man.

Yeah, the two mainstays. The big tongue? It's Gene Freely? That's another one? Yeah, he- Great name. Yeah, that is a great name. And was, yeah, was there one called Peter Chris or something?

Sure. Or is that a magician? Yeah, that's- Gene Simmons. He's the big tongue guy. Yeah, Gene Simmons is the big tongue guy. Okay, so that, so I'm gonna say that, looking makes sense. And also, I want to live in a world where, you know,

someone like Jane Simmons, who I look up to, is anti-apartheid. So, I might do a little bit of a Lena here. It's interesting that we're coining at that. But I'm happy for a legacy. Very happy for a legacy. No, I'm not going to lock that in. But I feel like I'm happy for a legacy. Very happy for a legacy. No, I'm not going to lock that in, but I'm really visualising.

I feel like Kiss and Makeup, definitely one of the band would have had that as their theme. Yeah, it feels right. If one of us just came up with that right now, well done to us. Yeah. Because that, we should, we should be ghost writing.

It's Andy's. Isn't it, it's funny when like a word play like that is so perfect that it feels bad again. Yeah. It's like it's so perfect. That's a phrase. And both parts of it makes sense to him. And the band. The band called Kiss wore makeup, but somehow it just feels a bit lame.

Was were they ever like a fractured band? What's the band? Oh yeah, big time, big time. Oh, because they were a, what's the word, band that existed. I think it's because one of them didn't, they didn't know how long the makeup was. Like they thought that just one day one of them rocked up in a cat makeup for fun. And then six, 30, 40 years later he's still wonderful. It can't be good for your skin.

Honestly, I honestly think the cat makeup one is almost like a front runner because it feels very like, hey, you know my universe. Yeah, yeah. You know, like it's- It's inside, basically. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what? That one's Linus, that one's Linus. I'm gonna go kiss and makeup. The cat, that's for Saran. The, I think, was it Peter Criss might have been the cat? Cause no, Ace Freely? What do you reckon? Andy, you're pulling out names before.

God, it didn't even work. He's not even remembered. Like, you can't even remember who it was. Well, I think it started off that new members who came in picked new characters. Right. And eventually they just basically franchised it. You're in, you're the cat.

Oh yeah. It's actually a pretty good idea. It's very Wiggles, isn't it? Yeah, they just basically franchise it. You're in you're the car. Yeah, it's actually a pretty good idea It's very wiggles, isn't it? Yeah, you get the skivvy. Mmm. You're purple Yeah, isn't there some certification with the with the makeup or something? Oh probably I remember hearing this Hierarchy or something. Yeah, there's some place that's like they Have like a little card which has the design on it. We were talking about the museum in France where there's a whole lot of eggs with all the different clowns.

Yes, that's what I was thinking, that was Pope's. I was like, I don't remember the eggs, but in my head they were all different than Pope's. I see what you've done. You've got egg, you've got eggs Benedict, you've got Pope Benedict, you've got popes, it's popes. It's either popes or it's hollandaise, I can't remember. What, sorry, what would a pope look like?

It's gotta get the popes. So that they can make popes. They have to give their heads a bit of an egg. But that's every hat, there would just be a series of eggs with crosses drawn on them. And when they announced a new pope, the steam that comes out is actually from the... Some of it is from the scramble that morning. I'm gonna get poked.

Oh man. Hold on, I'm also caught up hearing that there's a wall of boiled eggs. How are they staying fresh? Oh, yeah, I guess it's just the shell. Maybe they do that thing where they put a poke a little thing and suck it out. That makes way more sense than what I was thinking. But it is, yeah, there's a little... I think it was a question, I learnt that through the show. My head, it's just lunch on the wall.

You know, you're asking how much info I retained? That egg thing was, I learned that on this show and I retained the egg bit. But I reckon that week there was a pope question and I've merged the two together. I thought it was gonna be, you retained 3% of facts. Like, all of the knowledge you have taken in, 3% of that you remember.

But no, you remember three percent of every Little slivers there are eggs somewhere There is a fact that has eggs in it You let me off the hook because I was floundering with the business card Yeah, I'm looking in kiss and make up. What do you think, Lena? Damn, I want that one. You can.

I'm going to go for it, even though I think it might be Andy's. Okay, I know that that is the correct answer. And I mean, I don't want to choose it, but it is the right answer. So I have to choose it. All right. Well, yeah, that that. Well, look, I haven't said what the right answer is yet.

Let's find out. No, but I think we all know it is the right answer. Andy Reid's. The chief's coach, Andy Reid, is that what you're doing there? Yeah, I was I was referencing a person outside of the room that isn't involved in the game that has nothing to

do with the question. Well at the time recording he only lost the Super Bowl a few days ago so it's pretty relevant. Yeah I'm bringing him up yeah let's talk about it. All right let's find out who wrote the answers. Sex, Money and Rock and Roll in that order that was Joth. It's a good one. It is good. I was really good. That was like very realistic. Yes That did that does feel like him. You reckon that would be his order. It's all business I reckon it might be money sex and rock and roll kiss famously are all about They would have a line of eggs But he also has made public comments about the number of women that he has slept with.

It's a big part of his deal. It would be sex, money, rock and roll. It's not the number of women. It's not as high as the number of dollars they've made though, I don't think. Well, let's find out. Something else. Ow.

And that was good mouth noise you made after you said that. That'll be edited out. Yeah. Sealed with a kiss,'d be edited out. Yeah. Okay. Sealed with a kiss, that was Lainey Moon. Yeah. And yeah, I saw you trying to make that one of the ones for contention. I thought I'd pull an Andy.

Yeah. An Andy where are you? Yeah, because you brought it into the world of kids and makeup. I did. I did. You know, they're on par. I did. You're trying to tie them together.

I like that, that was clever. Because I forgot that Andy knew the answer. I'll be honest. I didn't think, when he said that I'm like, why would he know that? But he did. Yeah, why would I? Remember I think it's quite a famous rocko autobiography by one of the most famous bands. Okay, Joff I don't know if you're hearing the tone there from Andy, but he's like Lift your game mate. These questions are meant to be little known trivia facts. Joff did a great job of

coming up with the alternative name. I think we just picked the right I picked the you three I think in these guys don't know rock. You would be correct about me. I want to lick and lull all night. You mean the two people that write for Spicks and Specks? Ah, yeah. Damn it, I did forget about that. I want to lick and lol all night and you can see how we got the job at Spicks and Specks. Apartheid was not okay. That was Andy Matthews.

That one made it to air, right? That would get on me. For sure, for sure. Thank god I didn't choose the cat face makeup. That was Saren. That one made it to air, right? That would get on me. For sure, for sure. Thank God I didn't choose the catface makeup. That was Sarenne. The ABC is famously not one to shy away from political controversy. No, they're pretty go-getter in that way.

I mean, you're saying apartheid was not OK. I think they've been. I think as we've established in recent, this is very topical. The Antoinette Latouf court case, which is currently going. Oh yeah. Oh Matt. Yeah. I was just watching the news while I was reading a book. So yeah. Any reads. Oh the cancer soup. The Vagene Simmons monologues, that was the house. That was very good. Meaning the correct answer was, and this is gonna shock some of you, kiss and make up.

So it means all three of you get a point there. It's a really good name. She's on the board. It is great. It is, it's just the perfect. Yeah. Perfect, it's kind of like, oh I can't not call it that.

You'd almost be annoyed by it. Yeah, you almost have to write the autobiography just to be like fuck. I gotta use this name Yes was like I had the title for a show a few years ago dry ginger male And I'm like, I'm well, I'm not gonna get a title like that again Did you almost think I don't want to burn it this early in my career? Maybe I've got a say I should have probably saved it. But if I did then Would have been taken recently someone who was it Nick Schula Nick Schula applied to do a show last year in the festival like Matt

should do that a couple years ago tried to call it that yeah Zeitgeist which is you know just it's one way to find out that Nick Schula doesn't follow your career though okay here's question five the penultimate question it comes from Josh Johnson from Lebanon Pennsylvania and the question is Okay, here's question five, the penultimate question. It comes from Josh Johnson from Lebanon, Pennsylvania. And the question is, what happened in Baltimore on the 28th of March 1984? What happened in Baltimore on the 28th of March 1984? Andy, you would have been but a baby then.

Is that true? Yes, I would have been two months old. Do you remember this date? Yes, I remember it well. Because you knew that last answer and it cheesed it always. While you're writing your answers, here's some more info about that book. Kiss and Makeup. This is according to the publisher Penguin's website. The autobiography of Gene Simmons, frontman of 1970s rock band KISS, one of the most infamous rock and roll legends alive, and the man who made face paint cool. KISS has released 37 records and sold 80 million albums worldwide. Gene Simmons has also acted in films and on television, has written and produced albums

for other recording artists, has managed the recording career of, among others, Liza Minnelli and was the founder and president of his own recording label, Simmons Records slash RCA. He also launched his film and TV producing career with Detroit Rock City for New Line Cinema and he lives in Beverly Hills, California and was recently the star teacher on Channel 4's Rock School. Guessing that was true in 2010 when this book came out anyway. Here for the first time, Gene Simmons, the notorious main man of the explosive rock and roll group KISS, tells his story, delivered in Gene's own honest, outrageous and uncensored

voice. He tells of his early beginnings in Israel, of his arrival in New York at the age of eight, his first taste of 1950s pop culture and his developing thirst for fame, fun and girls. Undoubtedly one of the most infamous rock and roll legends alive. Gene tells the never-before-revealed story of Kisses Reign as the biggest and most popular band in the world. Finally the real story of the man behind the makeup. I didn't realize it was from Israel. I thought it was Italian for some reason. Gene Simmons. I gotta read the book obviously. The answers are in for question number five. Question five is what happened in Baltimore on the 28th of March 1984?

In the suburb of little Berlin, an event where a scale model of the Berlin Wall made entirely out of twizzle sticks was to be knocked down by a team of gerbils driving, in inverted commas, tiny bulldozers, went horribly wrong and eight trainee lawyers lost their lives. Oh God. You do. That's where you send the trainee lawyers to the model. Berlin Wall. That's option one. Option two. Baltimore's NFL team was secretly relocated to Indianapolis to avoid seizure by the

government. Whoa. Option three. During the 170th anniversary celebration of the riding of the Star Spangled Banner, a firework accident led to the USS Constitution warship catching fire. Is Baltimore, is that on the coast? I think so, yeah. Yeah, it's like crabs and water. Yeah, that's a water, I believe. They call themselves the fighting water crabs, don't they? I've been there. Yeah. All right.

This is my fucking memory is so like, it's like I have to be blessed by my memories again for them to be in there. Like I feel like they have to anyway. Sorry. They have to dine to come down. Yeah, yeah. And I suppose. It feels like it's like an old injury flare up. That's when I get to have my memories.

It's like joint pain is like, oh, that's, yeah, I've been there and this is a fact. Like, it's really annoying. Did you like, was it nice? Yeah, it's great. It's pretty, I've been there twice for Thanksgiving. I can't believe I can't remember anything about it. For Lena, it's a traumatic flashback or it's nothing.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm like a sleeper agent. So that's option three. Option four, during a showing of Ghostbusters, four men wearing bedsheets, dresses as ghosts, burst into the theater. Movie girls thought it was a practical joke until they realized they were being robbed.

Oh. It's option four. Lena might know the right answer and she might until I realized I was being robbed. Oh. It's option four. Lena might know the right answer and she might, I mean, I'm crazy. Was that one of your trips to Baltimore? That was me. I was one of the guys with the guns. Option five, the Baltimore Ravens pitched the wire to HBO.

They were rejected and went back to workshop. They went on to school the idea to the show's actual creator, who later successfully pitched the wire and were able to get it made. Or finally, during- The root of David Simon to write The Ravens completely out in all five seasons. The inception of the show. The backstory of how the show got up. Really funny.

Yeah. Well finally, during a panel at the 1984 Baltimore Book Fair, English novelist and prophet George Orwell, for the first time, publicly admitted he got it wrong. A lot of fun in here. Yeah. A lot of fun. Yeah. And the ship that burnt. I actually had the people who were rock Yeah. And the ship that burnt. I actually had a lot of fun.

And the people who died. And the people who died. Yeah, the tiny lawyers. If they were tiny as well though that would explain why they were so vulnerable to the small bulldozers. Oh my god, yeah, there's a lot of sadness here. Yeah. I actually think, I don't know why, but that robbing story is really familiar.

And you've been to Baltimore twice. And I feel like I'm like, yeah, they've said the word and I'm the sleeper agent waking up. And I'm like, I'm like foggy. I'm like born identity. Is that what that's about? I don't watch boy movies. Yeah yeah because you're usually in a sheet yeah rubbing people at them no I'm pretty sure I like look if someone wrote that well done you've unlocked a memory for me yeah because it feels like I feel like I've heard a similar story or like I've seen it in something

like I don't know anyway it's probably Andy's. You're locking that in? I am gonna lock it in. I don't think it can be mine it's too real. It feels real. Timeline makes sense. 1984 would be Ghostbusters. I also don't think it could be mine because I know which one's mine. True. There are other reasons I can come to that conclusion. When you look it up, Ghostbusters came out in 1984. Oh, see. Yeah, I think it is that one. I think I'm going to look it in. It was released in June.

And when did it happen? In March. Oh. It could be like a pre... Could have been pre... Could have been pre-screening. Yeah. Also, you know what else happened in 1984?

I mean, if he's giving us that information and that's not that's that's fucking crazy. The house is done a lot. You did not tell me before to try and win more. No, I well, I didn't tell you to cheat. OK, I might be wrong. It just I don't know why it feels like such a familiar story. Like, it's like it's weird that it. Yeah, I don be wrong. It just, I don't know why it feels like such a familiar story. Like it's like, it's weird that it, yeah. I don't know.

I'm gonna go with it even though we just got new information that makes it sound right. I'm gonna go with the ship fireworks. That one also sounds very credible. You're on the ship? Yep. That's the Star Spangled Banner. Yep. Yeah.

All right, looking that in for Andy. What do you think, Sam? Can I hear them one more time? Sure can The little Berlin Berlin Walls. Was that when the Berlin Wall came down? 1984? That doesn't. I was no it was a few years before but you know this is maybe recreating it for Pre-creating it because it didn't happen till 89 Soon as boys start talking about history, my brain leaves.

But I think they were keen to knock it down for a while before it. So, you know, the way activism, the best activism they could think of was to use twizzle sticks. Yeah, yeah. It does feel like an American kind of thing where they're like, oh, we're going to rename chips to freedom fries. You know, yeah, that's true. They love to fast food and politics are inexorably intertwined.

So that was the first one. Then you had their NFL team was secretly relocated to avoid seizure by the government. That one did. It felt like there was it needed another sentence of context. Because it's like, why were they going to be seized? Yeah. And that's like, why were they going to be seized? And that's like, is that something that really happens in the city? Yeah, true. That's a good point.

If you want to look it up and give us any more facts. Did that happen? Yeah. Do you want to tell us what the answer is? Since you look at things like that. Then you had, yeah, the ship went down at the 170th anniversary of the Star Spangled Banner. It has the Ghostbusters robbery, or the Baltimore Ravens pitching the wider HBO.

Which is crazy. It's a big day, because they also, I think that same day they left the Sydney. Or the Baltimore Book Fair where George Orwell admitted he got it wrong. I'm saying that Star Spangled Banner thing but okay so that would say 170th anniversary that would put that in like 1714. That Star Spangled Banner that's a reference obviously to the Stars and Stripes, the flag. Was the Stars and Stripes, did that exist before?

I don't know when the flag was made. Before the like American Civil War? Right? Because that's about all the states being united and the, you know. That's a good point. What was the, so we know what the Confederate flag looks like. Yeah. What was the flag? The Union. Yeah, the Union flag.

So I don't I don't know. Maybe it had less stars on it. But I know that the first the woman, the name of the person that made the first flag's name is Betsy Ross. And the reason I know this is because I went to college in Philadelphia and I like went and did all the like, you know, old town things. Oh, yeah. And everyone was like, you've got to go to the Betsy Ross house because they've like kept where she lived. And I got starstruck by the person playing Betsy Ross.

Just because they've been so much hype. So then by the time I got there, I was like, hi, hi. And then she was like, she's like, do you want me to show you how I cut the stars? And I was like, she's like, she wanted me to show you how I cut the stars. And I was like, I really do. Like I couldn't speak to her. Because I'm so excited. She was just making that up, right? She was actually dressed as Betsy Ross.

She was playing Betsy Ross, but I just like, I lost my mind. I was like, thank you, Betsy. Can I say what an honor it is to be here while you have a memory? Yeah. I'm actually stoked that happened. I know, can you see the joke?

It's like witnessing the birth of a baby giraffe. Isn't it lovely? It's so nice when they come. Yeah. Yeah. Is that similar feeling to like a Disneyland meeting Goofy or something? So on that same trip, I did also get starstruck by Aladdin.

So I think I might just be neurodivergent. So, yeah, that's the end of that. I'm going to stick with my answer. OK, what? I've lost control of this. You invited me on your podcast. I have not yet answered. I'm going to say. of this. You invited me on your podcast. I have not yet answered. I am going to say, I feel like it's one of the two that Amy or Lena have said as well.

I think it's the Star Spangled Banner. Is that what you're going with? That's the sound of the ship sinking. Well, we all got thrown by you looking up when the Ghostbusters came out I think. Oh no I'm gonna lock that in. It's the Ghostbusters. You're locking in the Ghostbusters? I'm locking in Ghostbusters. Alright.

Well here's who wrote the answers. In the suburb of little Berlin with the Twizzlers and the Goebbels and the Gerbils. It was a tiny gerbil! You invented a new animal! The Twizzlers are eating the gerbils. That's the name of a frog. That was Andy Matthews. Well done.

The 984 Baltimore Book Fair where George Orwell said that and publicly admitted he got it wrong. 30 years after his death. I did have I nearly said that. I nearly Your jaw will say publicly admitted you got it wrong. So it is after his death. I really said that I really said that felt like a you, especially because it was a last coincidence. Baltimore Ravens pitching the wider HBO.

Now, to me, this sounded like a Serenity. That was Alina. It's very, very fun. Thank you. Regular listeners have told me that they play a game when But that was Alina. It's very, very funny. Thank you. Regular listeners have told me that they play a game when Saren's on where they are guessing the Saren answer. I think today's been a harder game than usual for guessing Saren.

Alright. So anybody's guess? The Star Spangled Banner fire, I'm afraid, was Josh Johnson, a.k.a. The House. God damn it. Yeah. As was the Ghostbusters one. Damn it! Josh Johnson got all the points there, meaning the correct answer is that the NFL team was secretly relocated to Indianapolis to avoid seizure by the city's government.

Josh, I need you to somehow tweet at me if you just like cut, copied a different movie, the robbery thing, or if that's, how did I remember that? Are you thinking about the time that those guys came into Batman and shot a bunch of teenagers? That's exactly what I think. Oh. I'm like, oh my god, I remember this.

Okay, I got some of the details wrong. I only retained 3% of information. Oh no. I got it, some guys did go into a thing. I remember it was a really sad thing that happened in a movie. Oh no. Unfortunately, it's not that day, not that city. Wow, the house cleaned up, baby!

Well done, Josh Johnson. House did really great. On the back of Josh Johnson. And I think you were on the right track. I'm just quickly looking it up, Star Spangled Banner, I don't think it was written at that point. So you were working towards figuring it out. I'm not really sure. But it was interesting, you also went with an NFL answer and the real one was NFL. You were working towards figuring it out. Oh my, Willie.

But it was interesting, you also went with an NFL answer and the real one was NFL. There's like three things I know about Baltimore. The Baltimore Ravens, the wire and also they- Ed Garland Poe? I can't, no, I can't remember the spice. There's like a spice that's really famous there. Pumpkin spice?

Maryland, it's the- Maryland chicken? No, it's like a seven spice. Anyway, someone's gonna be mad at me because I can't remember. Old Bay seasoning? Old Bay, Old Bay. Yeah, it's like a really big seasoning.

And also my friend lives there. I think Edgar Allan Poe maybe died there and that's why they're called the Ravens. Ravens, that's cool. But that team, that team wasn't the team that left. It's a really bizarre story about an owner. I'll tell it while you're writing your question as well. I'll try and give it to you briefly.

An owner was fighting with the city. So he secretly under the cover of darkness had trucks move the whole organization into state before they enacted a law that would have made him keep the team there. So the Ravens ended up coming back later a team from Cleveland. They became the Baltimore Ravens. And then another team went to Cleveland to become the Cleveland Browns Who were the team that moved to go? It's very confusing

It's just like billionaires playing toys on a big board. That's team that moved to Cleveland. Did they pitch Drew Carey? Yes They go on up straight away, yeah. All right, final question comes from Elliot Cosby McCullough from England. And the question is, what is the plot of the 1981 film Looker? What is the plot of the 1981 film Looker? While you're writing those answers, here's the story of the Baltimore move. According to Wiki, although the Colts had been successful since arriving in Baltimore for the 1953 NFL season, Memorial Stadium was claimed to be inadequate for both them and Major League Baseball's Baltimore Orioles. In May of 1969, the City of Baltimore

announced it would seek a substantial increase in Memorial Stadium rental fees from Colts owner Carol Rosenblum and the team itself. Rosenblum had already called Memorial Stadium antiquated and had threatened to move all Colts home games out of the stadium unless improvements were made. all Colts home games out of the stadium unless improvements were made. By November 1971 Rosenblum announced that the Colts would not return to Memorial Stadium when their lease ran out following the 1972 season and that he was not interested in negotiating with the city anymore. He wanted out of Baltimore for several reasons. Team revenue, problems with Baltimore Orioles ownership relating to the stadium revenues, as well as a running feud with the Baltimore Press

and his new wife's desire to move to the West Coast. So wild that, you know, his wife wanting to wanting a move led to all these changes in the football teams in the NFL. Ultimately, after the 1971 season, Rosenblum engaged in a franchise swap with Jim Israe, taking ownership of the Los Angeles Rams while Israe became the new owner of the Colts. Israe lasted in Baltimore for a little over a decade before he covertly moved the team. According to Josh, on the night of March 28, 1984, owner of the Baltimore Colts, Jim Israe, ordered the secret move of his team to Indianapolis

after a dispute with the city of Baltimore over a new stadium. The Maryland General Assembly passed legislation so the city could seize the team via eminent domain. To avoid this, Israe hired the Mayfield Transit Moving Company to move the entire team's possessions and equipment in the middle of the night to Indianapolis, Indiana. The people of Baltimore were so furious that 12 years later they got another NFL team back in a similar situation when the Cleveland Browns were moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens. Oh my god.

The answers are in for the final question. It's worth triple points for you three. Still truly anyone's game. I will put up a poll, that's suggested by Andy, to see if people want the triple points to remain. And in that poll, will the house get triple points? Yes.

Yeah, cool, cool, cool. Here is your final question. What is the plot of the 1981 film, Looker? Option one. When 16 year old Greg and his cousin Blip discover an abandoned car they decide to investigate. Liking what they see, Greg applies for a learner's permit. It takes him a few ghosts to pass the online test in the derivative coming of age story. Greg then completes 120 hours of driving practice, captured in real time.

Once ready for his fees, Greg heads to his local testing centre where he is paired up with one of the toughest examiners in the system, Looker. One of the longest films ever released. It has to be seen for the reverse parallel part seen alone. Is that you? It's got you written blue. I nearly rented this video business. This is option one.

You still go to video, easy? Option two. When a nerdy college student invents the world's first search engine, nicknamed Looker, the last thing he expected to find was a cache of damning NSA documents. Now on the run, can he tell the world before he's silenced permanently? I think I didn't quite get the, I didn't hit that last bit right.

Yeah, but I dismissed that instantly that one. I was like, there was no way somebody was building a search engine in 1981. Like it's pre internet. And then I was like, but then maybe there was some fucking early version of like, you know, when did war games come out? You know, it could just be almost like a theoretical, you know, like we kind of theorized a lot of that stuff. It does have a bit of Michael J.

Fox, young Michael J Fox I think you're right though Because we have to have like really conceived at the internet before understanding There's a lot of exposition It's like imagine this okay, um cuz we haven't built yet, but we might So you need a way to organize that information. Okay. All right, they're the first two options.

Option three. Looker is a slasher film set in 1967 Ohio. We meet head cheerleader and overachiever Kimberly, whose picturesque is in the stuff of legend. What? That's not a full sentence sorry this reads like a screen also pictures life is the stuff of legend maybe would have been what they meant to write maybe that's very presumptuous of you to say.

Sorry, can I go? Sorry, my vision went a bit blurry there. Here we go. Looker is a slasher film set in 1967 Ohio. We meet head cheerleader and overachiever Kimberley, whose picturesque life is the stuff of legend. Just want you to know that up until that point you absolutely had me. I know. And you were going to win this.

I know. And this is when it all fell apart. I know. Straight A's, popularity, and the starting quarterback Brad's arm. But when the members of the cheerleading team stop showing up to practice, Kimberly starts to question the world in front of her and the perfect picture she has built for herself. God, this would have been good if it wasn't. As bodies start to pile up,

her suspicions turn to Brad and Kimberly as they must start to look closely at the details and mess of the world in order to save themselves. Yeah, that's a great pitch. That's option three. So what's interesting about it is cause she's a looker, he's a looker, she has a look at her life. No, no, it's really good.

It's really good. Option 4. A rank of lowly angels pejoratively called Lookers behind their backs are tasked with heavenly busy work. Monitor humanity, observe but do not interfere. That is until one Looker, Gabby, falls for the man she's been assigned to watch, soon finding herself stuck between her heart and the command of almighty God. Shit. That's really good.

Has the film ever had the word pejoratively in it? That's the only thing that's thrown me off there. Pajorative does sound like one of the words that Matt Stewart's dad would have told him was a good word when he asked for a list of good words. Oh my god. That is true. That is one of those words. The two that I remember most pejoratively and avuncular. Option five.

Dr Larry Roberts, played by Albert Finney, is a plastic surgeon to the stars. But when some of his supermodel clients start turning up dead under mysterious circumstances, Roberts decides to investigate, since murder is bad for business. Roberts quickly discovers that all clues lead to Digital Matrix, the ominous corporate entity that has contracted many of his clients. Digital Matrix CEO John Reston, played by James Coburn,

is found to be employing new technology to evil ends for his ad agency. Subption five, or finally, a highly experimental move. It begins as a public information film about waterslide safety, but in the midst of a dramatic reenactment, an actor is hit on the head by a toddler on a waterslide who gains the ability to see through people's clothes. Therefore, the movie transforms into a psychedelic sex romp as the man played by a sexy young Tony Shalhoub has the ease of his ability to diagnose skin cancer in Strangers but keeps getting into embarrassing scrapes.

Finally he finds peace and a chance at love in a nudist colony. The way you read that it momentarily sounded like I was was like, was it the toddler? Oh my god, they got the ability to see three boys. It's just not what I was thinking. It's not the toddler just, if the toddler wouldn't affect, it wouldn't really affect them at all. They'd be like, no. But we do know it's a,

oh at that point we don't know it's a sex romp, right? Yeah, but all that I'm like, I guess that would just be them looking around then. Yeah, in my head I was like, creatively that's a sensible choice because otherwise it would be too creepy. But the movie wouldn't play on screen, the kid would just sort of stare at stuff and then stare at something else and get on with their day. And see no difference between the two things.

Yeah, just they're not like that affected by nudity I think. Anyway, oh that's so funny. Um. Young hot that's so funny. Young, hot, Tony Shalhoum. Tattoo that on me. Yeah. And now another one of dad's favorite words back then. Tortology, which I think hot Tony Shalhoum is one of those. But I repeat myself.

So you got Greg and Whip. Yep. You get the driver's license. Nerdy college students. These are really funny. Inventing search engines. Yep. You got the slasher film in Ohio. Okay. You got the angels up in heaven. That's my answer.

Same. You got Dr. Larry Roberts played by Albert Finney, plastic surgeon to the stars. Maybe that's my answer. Yeah, actually. And then finally, the sexy young Tony Shalhoub, who right to the very end, I was picturing as a toddler.

I'm very, very young Tony Shalhoub. To one of you said that that's what you were thinking, I was like, oh yes, was thinking. I should say I hadn't read any of these out loud before. He's never in the list of greatest child actors. Yes, or sexiest. Sexiest child actors Tony Shalhoub. Or sexiest. Sexiest child actors, that's not a list you see. Certainly not on mainstream websites. It's just fun to picture Tony Shalhoub in the young muppets. In that sort of baby muppets version of Tony Shalhoub.

He's still like an animal but just shrunk down. I'm annoyed at myself because as soon as I realised realized I've done a typo I was like I Don't know what to do now. Do I correct him? Do I let it slide? How do you? You have written I think the best it yeah, I would have picked it for sure. What is annoying is that I know I did a good job Yeah, but I also screwed myself over because it is typo'd. Do you find that you sabotage yourself like this a lot? Constantly Andy. Yeah. Recurring typo'd. Do you find that you sabotage yourself like this a lot? Constantly, Andy. Recurring theme. Yeah.

Do you, Saran, why don't you just pick the answer you would have picked? Yeah, let's just give him a point. Play like a, play, why don't you play this with honour? Yeah. In the spirit of the game. But having heard you reread the, again. Well, this is convenient, isn't it? Correcting the typo.

I, yeah, had it upon reflection, a different. Now I think it's the Albert Finney, the um. I think that's probably it as well. I think the one, the one with the angels and Gabby, now Gabby, you know, Gabriel, the angel Gabriel, so there would be, like that's, that's the kind of thing they would put in there. But then with a gender flip, because I'm pretty sure the angel Gabriel is a man, and then I think Gabby is a woman.

I said, you know that? 81. Yeah. And this would be going for a Christian audience, I presume. So I don't know that they'd want it, but then would they? Why do you think they're pejoratively called lookers?

Ah, you know, all looks, no. That's all I can do. They look, they can't interfere. Oh, okay. Oh yeah. Whereas like the higher up angels are called touches and meddlers. Meddlers.

Gratish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Handsy. I'm gonna go with the higher one. Can we? I don't know, why not, Finny? Someone could pick the slasher. Someone could pick Tony Shalhou.

Is that one yours Andy? Andy if you were to describe the looks of Tony Shalhoub in a word, what would it be? Timeless. Yep. What of a code? Yeah. I just see out of all the people in this room, Andy's the most likely to have written the name Tony Chalune. That is a great name, he's so great. He is always at the front of my mind. You struck me as someone who's watched Monk Andy and I mean that. He's in there but it's sort of formless. One day he's a toddler, one day he's a fully grown- A shapeshifter, always with the same head. All right, I'm gonna go,'m going to go Gabby and the Lookers just for something different. Gabby and the Lookers?

Yeah, even though I know Matt wrote that. Because he used one of his two words that he knows. Well, no, we've added tautology in terms. That's true. So now I've got three words, three good words. But Matt also did, he did have a quick answer for why the angels are called Lookers. Yeah. So I think you're right. What if I told you I didn't write any of these?

Whoa. What if I told you that? I mean, I think we're just happy. I think we'd find out in a couple of minutes if you're a liar. Call me Albert Phoebe. If you want to. It's up to you. I'm going to call you a miffy.

A gay? A miffa. A miffa. So no one's interested in 16 year old Greg and his cousin. I knew it was yours. I just knew it was yours. At least 120 hours long, right? Yeah.

At least. I think it's more than that. It was very confusing when you read it in the newspaper, the runtime 120. You're like, oh, two hours. Like, yeah, yeah, it's 120 hours. But also in 1981, there was no way anybody needed to get up that number of mandatory hours

to get the word is right. That's 1000% it's like no one used seat belts then. Yeah. As my dad would say, back in the days before drink driving. Yeah. There was, yeah, they didn't care much about it yeah I'm thinking it was all farm roads in Melbourne back then I'm pretty sure nothing was sealed yeah hmm kiss by seal

I think it's about a band of seals. Nope, sorry. Bad riff, put it in. Put it in. Bad riff, put it in. I think Serena and Andy are locked in. Lena? I'm going with the one, the doctor. You going out, Albert Finney?

Yeah. Alright. You're both cowards for going for the right answer. Well I got in trouble for going for the wrong answers. I didn't have the courage to go for one of the really silly ones. Yeah. So. It's not too late Andy, what do you wanna do?

Shaloubi baby! Are you serious? Are you serious? You didn't watch Shaloubi. Do you know how that looks? Do you know how that looks? You are a young man doing this podcast. You are.

People look up to me. People know you are smart. Okay, you are wrecking your brand as a guy who reads. I'd say this, Andy, to you. You are the only white male contestant, straight white male on this panel. And it is a tough time. Yeah, as we all know, we are-

Making wrong choices all over the place. Yeah, okay. Yeah. There's a lot of responsibility- I won't choose that because also that is my answer. We all know we are making wrong choices all over the place. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of responsibility. I won't choose to. Because also that is my answer. So I will go back to the Gabby one.

Back to Gabby. All right. Here's who wrote the answers. Soren's one was written by Soren. So I've had the 120 hours of driving with Greg and Blake. Like you couldn't even get through one sentence. Take it seriously. Greg and his cousin Blip.

Normally you all would take a twist of ridiculous halfway through, but you did it halfway through the first sentence. Anyway, um, nerdy college student who invented the world's first search engine. That was Elliot the question writer, aka the house. Uh, the slasher film, the one that everyone probably would have picked. So heartbreaking. I might, and that was me cause I couldn't, I couldn't figure it out. It doesn't say, but it doesn't say the words. No, I know if I was quicker and I just couldn't figure out what it was meant to be.

But also Matt, the words weren't in there. So I would say you're right. But it was only two short words. No yeah but the words weren't there. It's fine. You can't blame yourself. It's fine yeah. Someone didn't write them. Remember Andy's speech from the start of the episode. You're too hard on yourself. Anyway, that was laner's and that deserved points. There were two typos in mine I realized as Matt was trying to walk his way through it. I tried to cover those but I... Yeah. You didn't mean Tony Shalhoub? He didn't mean young. Yes, psychedelic sex romp with a toddler Tony Shalhoub. That was Andy Matthews. That was Andy Matthews. The rank of lowly angels, pejoratively called Lookers.

I added two things to Elliot's answer there. Pejoratively and Gabby. Those are the two things that I pulled out. I ruined Elliot's answer with, I thought I was punching it up. Sometimes you can overwrite stuff. You're beating it to death. And that means Saran and Lena are correct. It is Dr Larry Roberts

played by Albert Finney. And would you believe this is a Michael Crichton adaptation? Yeah, I would actually. And apparently it's really bad. Or quite bad. What's your favourite Michael Crichton adaptation? Yeah, adaptation. He didn't do that one. bad or quite bad. What's your favourite Michael Crichton? Adaptation. Yeah, adaptation.

He didn't do that one, I don't think. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. I think it's Passenger 791. He did Passenger 57? I don't know. I just tried to pick it.

What's that? Like an airplane movie. Like an airplane book store. He did. Didn't he do Jurassic Park? He did Jurassic Park. He did it up. What's that like an airplane movie, an airplane book store? He did, didn't he do Jurassic Park? He did Jurassic Park. He did Westworld. He did Westworld. He did Prey. He did Congo.

Damn, I'm thinking of John Grisham. I don't know why. Why do you think I get those two confused as well? What's yours, Selena? I don't read. No, but we're talking about adaptations. I don't adapt. Okay.

So this is what Elliot wrote about the film. A key part of the plot is that the corporation wants to digitise the model so it can use them in advertising without their consent. Something relevant 45 years later in the world of deep fakes and digital resurrections of dead actors. Grim. Sounds like it's ripe for re-examination. Yes, but the critics didn't like it on Rotten Tomatoes.

Only 32% gave it a positive. Audience liked it slightly more, 41%. One of the sort of average reviews came from Vincent Canby for the New York Times, writing, the plot is pretty silly, but Mr. Crichton's handling of it is even sillier, though it is bold. You gave it two out of five.

All right, final scores. Can you believe this? On equal third, it's Andy and Lena on four points. Jumping into second position on six points, it's Serenjoy Manah. Hello. Meaning the house unapologetically wins on eight points. Yeah. I'm proud of you. Well done. Stand tall.

Andy, if you had have gone for the correct answer in that last round, we would have tied. For first place. For first place. Oh, well, there you go. How's it feel to be down here in the mud? Terrible, terrible. I can't believe it. I threw it all away down here in the mud? Terrible, terrible. I can't believe I threw it all away.

And then get in the mud, get in. This episode. I don't belong here. I belong at the top. I could have had everything. You could have been a contender. It works as sunblock. But what you've done there, Andy, though,

is you've hoisted women up, I think. Well, before I got down into the mud with the women In a way me bringing a smart man down is hoisting women up. Yeah, that's equality Thank you for calling me a smart man. That's really nice I don't know it's calling your brand I don't like that that it is but I'll take it I just know you as smart I don't know The funny thing is that is true

My brand is kind of the opposite but people also confuse me and Andy Which I always take it. But I just know you as smart, I don't know. The funny thing is, that is true, my brand's kind of the opposite, but people also confuse me and Andy, which I always take as a compliment. They ask me about growing up in Tasmania, and I'm like, I think you think, it happens all the time, with friends, like people who know me quite well. Family members, my parents.

I've also seen your shows, and they're very smart. Yeah, they are very smart. But then I also- You did a show about string theory. But I consistently get invited onto your competitive game shows and lose dramatically. And like I'm always introduced as being really smart and then I always lose. Okay, well thank you for letting us- I don't think intelligence plays a big factor.

No, this one's not about intelligence. What is this game? I think in two different answers tonight, you went for ones you, when you thought a different one was right. Because I like, like, I like deceiving and part of me is like, I could come in and just play hard, right? But then I also love being cheeky. Yes, that's what I think it is.

It's a cheeky dog. Inside you are two wolves, you know? Yes, and they're badly held. One of them's real cheeky. And one of them's a little cheeky cub! When you... You should come in and play the other wolf one time. I tried to play both today.

Yeah. Yeah. Which one? Mish, which one do you think I play? Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big,

big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, that she's all the way in. I think I've actually said this on this podcast before. Misha's painfully smart. Like, I like, we would do trivia in lockdown and I would crack the shits like five minutes in like a toddler, because I was like, I hate this. I feel dumb.

I'm having a bad time. How would you describe a toddler? Tony's jelous. And Misha's so smart. Like she's so, she just has, it's like she, it's like she doesn't have to. She's holding the other 97%. Yeah, she is. She's so, she knows so she just has it's like she it's like she she's holding the other 97% Yeah, she is she so she knows so much stuff

It's so like it's like like if you ever want to do trivia take Mish I would rather burn Alive then go to a trivia night because they make me feel so small Anyway, you can cut that out now when you come in and you unleash the other wolf, can we call it going full moon? Cause I think that would be really cool. Sure, I do think it's really interesting that we're saying that, not the smart wolf didn't get any play today.

No, you played both wolves. I just wanna see you play the one wolf. Yeah, one wolf. Yeah, stick to a wolf. Yeah, pick a wolf. You were a crescent moon tonight. The smart moon had a great answer, just had sort of clumsy paws. Yeah, that's wolf. Yeah, one wolf. Yeah, stick to a wolf. Yeah, pick a wolf. You were at Crescent Moon tonight. The Smart Moon had a great answer, just had sort of clumsy paws. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I mean, if they did pick it, you won the show. I know, it's really annoying, you know,

using the degree that I earned and like, unfortunately, it is a beautiful metaphor for my life because the ADHR demon, I couldn't see the typos, which is a common problem for me. I think what I might do next time is, I'll pre-read your one. Thanks, you can proofread it. That would be good. As long as I get a credit when the film's picked up.

Well, yeah, when we pitch it at Sundance. This episode's gonna have a really long post-credit scene, everybody. Just hang around for it. I think we had a lot of fun. Where can people find you Saren? On Instagram at Saren Comedy and then yeah, I'll be coming to Adelaide and Melbourne very soon, March and April.

And is your old special still available online? No. No. Missed out. That's why you got to come see him live. Yes, come to the festivals. And Lena, they can see you in those places as well? Yeah, I'm doing my, this is my first ever solo stand-up show. Oh wow. Yeah, I'm very excited. I'm doing it at Adelaide for Four Nights and Melbourne for the first two weeks and my Instagram Instagram is Lena I Moon, one word, but you can find me on Twitch just using my whole name,

Lena Moon, and yeah, that's enough, right? Yeah, I think that's enough. Come find me on those things, yeah. And Annie Matthews. Hello. Where can people find you? You can listen to me on the To In The Think Tank podcast with my co-host, Alistair Trompe.

You're the host, he's the co-host. That's correct, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get it. Great podcast, up to what? Episode 460 something or other, yeah. And that means that 500 you're gonna do? We're gonna do a 500 sketches episode. Yeah, where we come up with 500 sketch ideas.

I've never done that. I'm not, no. I feel genuine fear about it every single day and it's ruining my life. It has been for the last, at least three months. Great. Yeah. Something to look forward to.

Yeah. People can see me doing my new show, Bad Boy in Adelaide and Melbourne at least. And also I'm doing a Who Knew It live in Adelaide at the Rhino Room as well. So get tickets at softmatshowattcom.com. Thanks so much for listening everyone. Thanks so much for joining us.

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You've been on the show before? Yes, but I ruined it, yeah. Oh, you ruined it, had you ruined it? Was it us and Claire? Yeah, I undermined everything. Okay, are you gonna do that here tonight? I'm not intending to but the whole show threatens my intelligence. I don't recall you being a wrecker.

Well, that's good. Because I think of a few people in that way, but not you. So you called out all of the people associated with Auntie Donna as people who wrexed her. Oh, did I? I think you either said it to me personally afterwards or on the podcast. Because I don't think that's the case. Okay.

I think they're the ones who take it the most serious. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, no, because what happens is... The people who, yeah, they're not wreckers. They're... Okay. I would say they're the exact opposite of it. Oh, really? Okay, well, maybe I misremembered.

I just feel stupid when you ask the trivia because I'm like I should know this No, you're not meant to know No I know but every time I hope that instinct is still in you It's still there and so I just go I turn into like a kid at the back of the bus I want to do it today Welcome to the front of the bus tonight

You're driving What? I'm yeah you yeah I'm giving you the keys you're sitting on the bus drivers lap he is drunk yeah I have to be there yeah yeah I'm actually helping he's doing the pedals but you got the wheel and the gears. Yeah, because we're going full throttle. Anyway, we should. It's it is a feat of science. I will defend the subway mayonnaise,

even though I'm pretty sure it's I it feels like every time I look at it. I'm like you are melted That like outdoor plastic white outdoor Like it feels like that's how they make it but boy, oh boy, is it full of flavor? Mmm, and I don't care. I don't know what they do to those furniture items to make them that delicious I've some ways sponsoring this, then that was all a joke. And sometimes a casino will, you know, on a podcast, put out a heartfelt plea to the listeners

that next time at the live taping, you know, they don't boo them. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's that's fair enough, isn't it? For a casino to do. Also, House rhymes with Kelsey Grouse. Yeah, well I wonder why they didn't use that as an example. But it also rhymes with Kelsey Grouse. Don't correct him.

Saran, I want you to know that you are enough, and you deserve to feel like your comments are heard and appreciated. I mean I heard it. It was just wrong. Thanks, Andy. This is the first time I'm in the studio and there's a big clock there and I can see the time just melting away. Yeah. But I'm excited for the first round. All right. Well, are you in for a treat?

Her match. Her match. Did I tell you that my cousin was the queen's butler for a while? Whoa. Yeah. What? You did not?

Yeah, he was one of her footmen. Is that the same thing as being a butler? Was one of your cousins also a blacksmith? Like it has like the most like old school, like those jobs. It sounds like a 17 year. Yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean? The Queen's butler. He was the Queen's butler. He butled for the Queen.

That's amazing. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Was it the guy I just mentioned? Uh, I didn't actually listen. Wow, you were new writing at the time. Let me say it again then. His name was something Harold. Does butlering run in your family? No, that's not. No.

Because it feels like the kind of thing that's like you've got a linear tube butler. My dad butled. Yeah. I butled. My boys will butle one day. You were prestige butle, but buts. Prestige butts. Yeah. Matt, how much stuff is in your brain?

How much stays? I don't retain. I would say maybe retain 3%. That's still heaps. That's so much. That's a lot. Because you do two hugely informative podcasts. Yes, but it won't all be like that 3% will be like,

oh, I do know that he was around in that century. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Not usually very helpful. It means I'm good at trivia quizzes that are multiple choice. Right, so you can vibe it. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, I know it's that one, but... Your brain is running a sort of a compression algorithm where it compresses, you know, an hour-long podcast down to a sort of a gist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. For storage reasons. Yes. What do you

get? Yeah, they've been zipped. I've got a zipped memory. An undervalued function, the zip. Oh yeah. I love it. We talking about like- Clothes? Clothes, clothing, bags. No, we're talking about zip files. Really?

Yeah. Do you like zip files? I don't like- I think they're gonna become extinct. Oh, I don't like undoing them. Right. But I love making- Back up, you're in trouble. I can't remember the last time I've zipped. Right. But I love making...

Back up your troubles in an old zip file and smile. I did it a lot recently and I did have a moment where I was like, I appreciate this. Yeah, you could tell. I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it as I'm saying it. I'm hearing it as I'm saying. I'm loving it as you sign it. Good lyrics. The I because I just had to know the song I liked. And this is why the parentheses felt right, was the song was called Drunk Drivers slash Killer Whales. That's the song I know.

So the brackets and the use of punctuation. And that was obviously a reference to the Guns N' Roses guitarist slash. Yes. Is that correct? Hey, while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. Hey, while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. Hey, while you're still writing your answers, let's go for a quick break. Just got one clean for Connor there. God, you're a pro.

He's so good at it. And it is also so obvious where the edit points are. Every riff that's getting cut, you can sort of feel it. The good ones, they just get cut and put in everyone's favourite part of the show. Oh, at the end. Oh, yeah. I think the zip stuff might go in there and maybe... Uh, what? He left a big pause, is all I'm saying.

I loved it. I would leave it in. I like the zip stuff as well. Love the zip stuff. But yeah, some, you know, some of the best riffs go there. You've got to leave some good stuff at the end. Imagine if it was just all bad riffs at the end. It was all shit. Can you do one episode that's just all the failed riffs at the end? I normally request Connor just cut seven completely.

Yeah, that's probably better. But we could do it. You know what? Do that. Do that. That's that. Wow. God, you're good. For a one-off compilation episode with no context to what the questions were. Just bad rips.

Just a bunch of people going, yeah, no, mm, mm. Yeah. Our next question comes from... Do you think this would be on it? Yep. Do you think this would be on it? Yep. I think I'm the villain of this episode. Normally it's the house,

but I feel like I have become the bad guy. You're playing into his plan because he wants to win some sympathy for the house. Yeah. But you did give that heartfelt speech at the start, which felt like- But he told me to say that. He told me to say that

okay you're a scripted everything I say is a speech if you talk for long enough yeah and I do but I also believe I think I think maybe Tom Gleason also used it years ago, perhaps. Yeah, right. But no one told me that. Hmm. No one told me that. So you don't follow Tom Gleason's story?

I also don't think Nick Schull is a ginger. Yeah. How, how expected are we to be Googling each other's names before we name our shows? I guess you don't have to because the festival, the festival is doing it for you. You think you're as good at calling your show Dry Ginger Mail? Why are you? Well I'm just concerned of all the possible shows that have also been called Rube Goldberg Machine. You know, it's such a catchy title and concept. I reckon you're okay.

It's a great title. Yeah, not many people know what they are, but's a catchy title. You're okay. It's a great title. Yeah. Not many people know what they are, but that doesn't matter. Did you Google a bag of Vegeta when you called yours that, Saren? Just check nobody's done this yet. Aw, damn it. Yeah, I didn't. But the festival, it's amazing that they picked up. That they... That's how memorable it was, I guess., but the festival, that's pretty amazing that they picked up, that they, yeah.

That's how memorable it was, I guess. Is that his actual name? That's not a pun, is it? I was thinking it was like, Rube, you're a Rube, but his real name is Rube Goldberg. Yeah. Yeah. There you go, works on one level. Yeah, that's the level I needed to work on.

What about Rude Goldberg? Is it too late? No, all right. It is very much too late. Yeah. OK, so your show is someone's name. It's a machine. So they're machines that are designed to make simple tasks harder.

Oh. So that's, I mean, it's the theme. It's not really. Like I said, the show is about me buying a projector. He was a real guy, but he never made them. He only drew them, right? Oh, again, so the show isn't really about that. I haven't done it.

How much do you remember about the Rube Goldberg? I feel like 3% will be enough. Yeah, he did them as great illustrations, but I don't think he ever. No, but people have taken that mantle. Yeah, yeah. Like I would, I describe myself as a Rube Goldberg machine. My favorite one I've seen online, this like as a, as a comedy thing,

but it was this long Rube Goldberg and it ends with the plug being pulled on a love one. Yeah, great. That's so good. Yeah, a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Wish I'd thought of that. What are we doing? You've, no, I haven't even asked the next question. Fuck it all.

His birth name was Chaim Witz? Why would you change it? That's a sick rock and roll name. It really feels like he's like, Genus feels like a real nerd sort of name. But maybe that happened after. Chamewitz, that's sick.

His stage persona is the demon. What would you pick? If you could pick it, what would be your stage persona? Kiss makeup? So that'd have to be one of those four? Nah. Represent yourself. The froglet.

What is a froglet? Well that's that's freaking hard man. Yeah. That's so hard. It's pretty hard. Yeah. And it's wild. How did I even come up with that at short notice? Yeah. How does my brain work? Well that I'm interested. That's a word that I don't think any of us have heard for probably ages. Like ages at all. Yeah. Yeah. The wombat. That's what I would be. It's my favorite animal. No you picked froglet. The sale of the century rules? Yeah it's locked in. Dammit. The wombat. Yeah the wombat's pretty sick. Interesting. They are tough. Wombats. Yeah they're hard as shit. Yeah they're butts. Yeah you can't.

I mean they poop squares. Yeah I was can't, I mean, they poop squares. Yeah, I was just about to say, poop cubes. Great fun fact. It's probably the most common fun fact. I think it might be. About wombats, isn't it? And it's also, it's disappointing if you hear the fact before seeing them,

you're like, I guess they're cubes, sort of. Yeah, yeah. So I'm picturing, you know, you're picturing a dice. I'm picturing a Minecraft block. Yeah, yeah yeah no they're a fun little time though if you ever go camping at Tidal River down down south oh boy watch your snacks how far south are we talking? The southernmost parts of Victoria. Mmm. Whoa.

Yeah. You're talking the tip. Yeah, I'm talking the freaking... Of Wilson's prom. Yeah. Just the tip? Well, yeah. Bloody hell, I don't think I've ever been down there.

You can hike to the southernmost point. There you go. I knew it's a day hike. Is that the southernmost point of the mainland of Australia? I've done it. Is it really? Yeah, I did it. Oh, further south than on the? Yeah, I did it.

Oh, further south than on the west side? I believe so. How about that? Sounds beautiful. Which is, like, the idea that South Australia... It is actually beautifully south. South Australia... It's taking the piss calling themselves that.

Yeah, it's a confusing situation. What the hell? Should we change it to mouth Australia? Yes. Because that would make sense of like the great Australian bite. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, that does make...

Mouth Australia. Do you reckon? You know, they have that wine region. That'd be great. It'd be like the mouth of the South. They could use that. The mouth's open. Oh no, they couldn't call it the mouth of the South because we've said they can't have

the South. So they'd have to call it the mouth of the mouth. But still, you know, they'll be fine. Yeah middle mid mouth Sure. Yeah. Yeah, cuz it's really central, you know Mmm. Yeah Sort of yeah, we fixed it. Yeah Move on. Okay

Hey man. Hey. Feeling pretty confident? You feeling good? No you, you feeling pretty confident? Oh yeah, about, about how this is going down. You'd be pretty pleased with yourself wouldn't you? The house is doing pretty good tonight. Yeah. Feeling good about it? You sicko. Feelingo there are people on here just to beat them at this game what a kind of freak does this? you disgust me what kind of freak? what is where did you get off? hmm here obviously at the site of your people who trusted you. Yeah. Triple points for the final round of course. Yes indeed. Gonna make it look like that's fair. But I agree with those who

write in and say that you should go back to you should remove the triple points for the final round thing. I'm a traditionalist. I'm a conservative in that sense. Yeah, fiscally. We should go back to- Points. That's right. Points-ally.

Points-ally, yeah. I think we should go back to the way things were. That was a while back though. Sure, sure. And there'd be kids growing up today who don't know anything different. This is the only system They've ever lived on that. Maybe I'll put it up to us some sort of a vote, you know, I've always been Both a believer in democracy and a coward

Hates making decisions for himself. Are you pandering to the listeners again? No, I'm not pandering unless they want me to yeah If they if that's something that they would enjoy, then yeah. Of course. Of course I'll panda. Just tell me. If they could let me know.

Tell me. I'm gonna put up a poll, do you want me to panda? Panda poll. I feel bad about not spending more time writing my answer. Oh, this is just so hard. I like put so much pressure on myself. Is it because you're the only one here who studies screenwriting? Yeah. And I'm like, well, if I write it like exactly like the Screen Australia pitch format,

no one's going to be impressed by that. And it's boring. And then every time I hear everyone else, everyone else's stuff, I'm like, damn, that sounds really good. No one knows that you're supposed to make it really boring. Right. Yeah. Yeah. OK.

Just copy one of those if you've got access to them. Yeah. Just give us your most recent pitch. No one wanted it. You wouldn't either. The final nail in the coffin. Yeah. If no one picks it. You wouldn't either. The final nail in the coffin is not a picture here. Yeah. Yeah.

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That was haunting. Yeah. Yeah. I liked how we all sort of joined in on the crew. I love a good one part harmony. I don't know what that is. Don't know what that would mean. I think we did it.

Oh, the shark has pretty teeth, dear. A baby shows them to his wife. She says there's something in the front there. It might be spinach. It might be rice. It might be spinach, it might be rice. What kind of rice are you eating, Sarad?

Whoa! That rice has gone bad! I'm just sticking to the rhyming guide. I went to drama school when I was a kid, just like a holiday program thing, and they made us learn that song, the Mack the Knife, for like a, I think we were gonna do it in the final performance, but I quit before we got to that. But I just remember when like the teacher was like

explaining what that song was about, I was like, oh, this is horrifying. It's such a jaunty song for such a, just such an awful, everyone's like, it's a song about murdering animals. Serial killer. And it's like, and he's fun, and it's just like, what do you mean?

Come on, everyone. Yeah. And cheers for tuning in to Who Knew With Matt Stewart. Now that you know it, I've been Matt Stewart. Goodbye. Goodbye. Sorry, I talked to you goodbye. That was not.

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