Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 179 - Jackson Baly, Joel Zammit and Adam Carnevale

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. Episode 178 features comedians Jackson Baly, Joel Zammit and Adam Carnevale!Support the show via... http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!Check out Matt's new stand up special: https://youtu.be/ZgukEPerWZc?si=SW8PttGAB-ly_GF8And his last stand up special: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESee the podcast/Matt live: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/Theme song by Evan Munro-Smith, Logo by Murray Summerville and edited by Connor Schmidt! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, mate, it's just Matt here. The titular one, that's right. In 2026, I'm doing new stand-up shows with great friend of the show, Seren Giamana, at the Adelaide Fringe at the Rhino Room, March 3rd to 9th, and doing a live who knew it with Matt Stewart. While we're there, Saturday, March the 7th, also at the Rhino Room. And if you're in Melbourne, we're also coming to the Cooper's Inn for the Melbourne International Comedy Festival from April 7th to 19th. You can find out details for all these shows that Matt Stewart Comedy.com. While you're there, please sign up to my mailing list. I'd love to not be relying on social media to let you know about things. And I promise I won't spam you. Just every now and then, I'll send out an email with some info that I think you'd like to know. Anyway, let's get on with the show. Welcome to Who New With Matt Stewart, the show where the guest's right the wrong answers.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm the titular Matt Stewart. And our first guest is the big boss of the Sanspans Media Empire. It's Joel Zammett. Oh, hey, how you going? I'm very confused. Yes, that's me. Wait, you forget that this is your empire? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh, all right. Your empire of Oz. That's so funny, it was going to empire of sand. This is so much more eloquent. Yeah, yeah. I was trying to be like, yeah, it's easy to forget what you don't want to remember. He's like, oh, yeah, this is my fault. Yeah, you did this.
Starting point is 00:01:31 This is my fault. We need a little block. This is my fault. Yeah. Our second guest this week is D&D, Dungeon Master Maestro, Adam Kana Valet. Hello, nice to be here. Thanks for having me. Does Master and Maestro, that maybe means the same thing.
Starting point is 00:01:49 No. He could be a master maestro. I'm not sure. You're making fun. I wouldn't dream of it. It's a maestro something to do with music. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Okay. The maestro, yeah. He's the maestro. Yeah. You know? Yeah. How do we recognize you smell? I get it.
Starting point is 00:02:04 M-A-E-S-T-R-O. Yeah. He's the maestro. It feels like it could be like German for master or something. Yeah, I think there's a chance. But what does that mean? He's the master of music? They'll be absurd.
Starting point is 00:02:16 He's the master of the orchestra? That would make sense. It sometimes abbreviated as Moe. The Big Moe himself. The Moe of music. The Moe of music. He's a bit of a Moe music. He's a bit of a Moe music, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It's ubiquitous with Italian musical terms. I completely forgot that. Every time I'm thinking of Italian musical terms, I'm thinking my story. For my story. Quatro. Quatro is a musical term, I believe. Focetto.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Focetto. Castrato. Castrato. Mama Mia. You say that when the music's really good. Cappuccino. Auropeggio. That's one. Yeah, beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Oh, my God. I don't know if that's an archa. And our third guest this week is Australia's preeminent, amateur, Cryptozoologist Jackson Bailey. Thank you for having me. All right, so the way the show works is ask a relatively obscure trivia question and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I then read their answer as well as the real one, and I have to guess which one is correct. And the first question comes from listener, Kayla Hodquitz from Le Moyne in Maine. The question is, what does the word anting mean? While they're writing their answers, I'll explain to the listeners how the scoring works. So you get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other.
Starting point is 00:03:36 contestant and another point if you correctly guessed the answer. By the way, I'm also playing as the house. I've put it into my own fake answers for each question with the help the question writer and we get a point for each one of those that are guests choose. So each of us conscript to three points per round, which seems fair, but the probability actually favours me, the house. And the house always wins off. If you've listened to previous episodes, you'll know that is not necessarily the case. To even things out as well, the guests get triple points in the final round where the house does not. Anyway, most of our questions come from our
Starting point is 00:04:09 great Patreon supporters. If you want to submit a question, sign up on any level via patreon.com slash do-go on pod, which is linked in the show notes. Or you just, you know, just search that, I suppose. And yeah, if you want, while they're still running their answer, I can tell you that you can follow
Starting point is 00:04:25 us on Instagram and Facebook, et cetera, who knew it, pod? You can see clips and stuff up there if you like fun. And I know you do. That's why you're listening to this show. A show for people who like fun. All right. Answering for question number one. The question
Starting point is 00:04:43 being, what does the word anting mean? Here are your options. An action you can take in older versions of Texas Hold'em poker. After everyone else's had a chance to fold in a round, someone can double their ante, forcing every other player to do the same or fold. That's option one.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Option two, feeling restless and anxious to the point you can't sit still. Option three, the act of birds allowing ants to crawl all over them and eat parasites. Oh, yeah. Okay. Option four, in poker to put in twice the ante that is required to play the round. Option five, working together with others to make a job easier, most commonly used referring to friends helping someone move house.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Like ants. Like ants. Ants cooperate. Or finally, a regional form of fly fishing utilizing non-traditional bait, such as ants. ants, hence the name. Just piercing an ant. Throw it in. I don't catch fish, but I just
Starting point is 00:05:45 hate ants. I just use it to torture ants. I don't think that one's real, but the idea of getting like some sort of, I would assume if you had to do it, you get some sort of food covered in ants and then you throw that in. That's a lot of. You can get big ants too, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Wait a second. If you cut like a bit of bread or whatever, covered an ant and then you hook that up. And you see you're throwing the water, the ants are going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd have to pierce the ants. You've got to pierce the ant. Don't some types of ants, maybe now I think this is real, some types of ants like grabbed together to float on water.
Starting point is 00:06:17 That's true. I have seen that. They make a bridge, yeah. The largest living ant species is the giant Amazonian ant with females reaching up to four centimeters. But not giant to them. To them, it's normal. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:06:31 We should learn to be more respectful. To the giant Amazonian ant, that's normal. You know? I'm sorry. You wouldn't call us giant humans. They might, though. They might. They might.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And we'd be right to rebuff that. Yeah, exactly. Actually, I'm normal. What was the second Pokemon? To put twice the ante that is required to play. Twice the Ante. I might go the first one. Lock it in.
Starting point is 00:06:55 The first Pokemon? Yeah. I'm, yeah. So the first Pokemon was like an old rule in Texas Hold'em. Where you double the anti. and everyone else is forced to double the ante. Yeah. I like that there's two.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm doing that. Yeah. Why am I looking at? Well, you're doubling. Mm-hmm. You're doubling the ant. Doubling that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 He's anter, number one. This MF is anting over here. God damn. I shall go. I'm going to go the fishing. I'm going to go crazy. I nearly weren't that. I nearly weren't that.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'm going to go crazy. Yeah, I nearly weren't that. Yeah. Because I know, I've seen those big floating raft. I mean, I don't know who use them to fish, but I've seen those. Floating rafts of ants. I hope that's true.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Because I like it when ants dream. We hate ants. This guy hates ants. I am having a war with ants the moment. So yeah, yeah, yeah, good. I'm also having a war with ants. Yeah, it's the ants season then. Ants love war, though, so it's great for them.
Starting point is 00:07:55 All right. These are the answers. Feeling restless and anxious, that was the house. As was working together with friends or others. Move that's whatever. Good answer. The second poker answer about putting in twice the answer, that was Zamet.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's why I'm going with the first one because I'm like, well, unless someone did the exact same thing as I did. What are the odds? What are the odds? What are the odds? What are the odds? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Mr. Odds over here we call. Mr. Odds. What else do we have? We had, what else is going on? Regional form of fly. fishing. Jackson was really close to going on for it, but Adam went for it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Got your ass. That was Jackson, yes. Gotcha, dude. That's so funny, because the other one was going to be the second Pokemon, so I was literally passing up between the two of you. That's so funny. Did you like how even after you'd locked in, Jackson still decided to lie to you? Just to the phone.
Starting point is 00:08:55 No, I've done the exact same thing. I've done the exact same thing before. It's part of it. I have in the past very serious, I think in the past I've been like, oh, I'll go my one and then swapped. Oh, that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah. Can we choose that one answer? No, you can't choose your own, my friend. But you can do that. You can fake it out. No, right. I'll give you all the time you need.
Starting point is 00:09:16 But eventually I'll be like, are you sure you're locking that one in? Yeah. Yes, that's the right answer. Why? So then we've got Jackson and Joel. Um, it both went for the other Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:09:32 That was Adam Carnival. Oh, my God. Man, got my ass. Yeah, got my ass. God damn it. And that means the correct answer is, uh, anting is the act of birds allowing ants to crawl all over them. That's absurd.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Of course it is. What do you say? This bird's the inting right now? Come on. I'm anting! I'm anting! And there's one, like,
Starting point is 00:09:52 funnily enough, I saw a video of it this week. There's different, they can either like smush them up, which you guys would love. Yeah, rob them over the same. I would love that.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. But there's another kind, which I hated the video I saw. was a bird just getting, to an ant's nest and making them crawl all over it. So it's this bird, you almost assume it's a dead bird
Starting point is 00:10:13 being eaten by ants. But it's doing that just to... Clever. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and also a snack later on, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clever. Some do it so that they're...
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah, the ants are gross to taste, apparently. So them rubbing all over them, their feathers take the gross taste and then they're nicer to eat as well. That's amazing. Are you making like the bird is making itself gross to taste?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah, that's what I thought was happening. Well, yeah, but if something eats you or bites you, they're going back, they're like, p'er. Yeah, it tastes like it. They've already bitten you. You're already dead. Yeah. Well, plenty of frogs work like that.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Plenty of frogs of, you know, poisonous to eat. That's true. That's true. That is true. It doesn't help you necessarily, but maybe it helps your children. Oh, that's really nice. That's really nice. You know, they say the perfect society is a society where old
Starting point is 00:11:04 frogs, poison animals their children will never be by. Wow. So poignant. Here's question number two. This comes from Aaron Burgess from South Australia. It could be Aaron Burgess.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Okay. The question is, name a species of bird. Okay. A real one. Okay. Thank you. That should specify. Wait. You come up with it you were. Wait. So is the objective.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Is the objective we give you real ones And we have to pick the fake? No, sorry. Yeah, I thought I was helping. We have to write a fake real sounding bird. Yes. You're eventually going to try and pick the real one from your fake ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And while you're writing your answers, here's some more info on anting. Got on a wiki, Anting is a maintenance behavior during which birds rub insects, usually ants on their feathers and skin. A bird may hold a single ant in his beak to rub over the body or line an area of high, insect density and wallow as when dust bathing.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Ant secrete chemicals like formic acid to aid their defence against bacteria and parasites. It has been hypothesized that formic acid may help birds avoid similar ailments by acting as a deterrent. Alternatively, anting could make the insects edible by removing the distasteful acid or possibly supplement the bird's own preen oil. Whoa. More than 200 species of bird are known to participate in this behavior. behavior. Big. Here's a fear of mine
Starting point is 00:12:36 for this question. You are so quick. Yeah, well see, I just wrote a name of a bird. Oh, what? Do we need to come up with just the name? Yeah, just the name.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That was my assumption, but that was my fear. I was like, maybe Joel and Adam are writing more and then mine will stand out because it's not just. It is just the name. Just the name.
Starting point is 00:12:54 See, I was going to, you know, right, then I was going to write like a scientific name for it. And then I went, no, that will make that stand out. For my best not. Also, I could speak Latin.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You don't know exactly. I don't know either. All right, the answer for question number two are in. Here is question number two. Which of these are real species of bird? Tasseled tit. Green-breasted mango. Red-eyed pelican.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Flombade grouch. Atlantic crackle or stupid idiot dumbbirds. Now, stupid, idiot, dumbbird. We laugh. It could be. That's it. Particularly pissed off scientists. That's stupid enough for us to mock it,
Starting point is 00:13:39 but then actually it'd be correct. Or that's Adams. I reckon Zammett at your go first this time. Okay, okay. So what do we, we have a tit? Tasseled Tit. Now, that was not, it's an obvious one.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We were all thinking of like when you name a bird. Of course. I mean, I wrote something Tit. Now I deleted it. No, I best not. It's a little hanging fruit. Perhaps most obvious bird option. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Not going to go with. Titty. Next one. They're well, speaking, low-hanging fruit, green-breasted mango. Now, green-breasted mango, okay, okay, okay, why would they call it? A mango's not a bird. No, he's right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, no. No, no, no, don't do so. There's a red-eyed pelican. A red-eyed pelican. A pelican is a bird, I know that much. Yes. He's right again. I don't remember the irises of a bird. Of the pelican. But magpies have red eyes.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, red eyes. The macbys have red eyes. Yeah, yeah. All right, so let's, okay, that's a Maybe. Flambade grouch. So a flambade. Okay, so a burning grouch.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. Flombade is an interesting choice. Atlantic crackle. That could be, yeah, is either the paliscon of the crackle. Or a stupid idiot dumb bird. I love the stupid idiot. And a bird is a bird. And a bird is a bird.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But I do think that could be Adams. That does sound like the answer of someone who's like, this. No. This, no. This, no. I'm running out of time. Stupid idiot. You got to remember.
Starting point is 00:15:02 you two picked Adams from the first round. I know. I got me good. He's playing the game. So I'm going to go with, um, uh, let's go with the crackle. Crackle.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. Okay. What do you think, Adam? I got a stupid idiot dumb bird. You got up to the stupid idiot dumb bird. No, wait. Actually, I'm going the crackle.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. Two crackles. Hang in a second. The fact that Adam would nearly choose with me. Cacency trustworthy and legitimate I too will go
Starting point is 00:15:37 stupid idiot Don Byr No wait Wait a second I'm tempted to go red-eyed Pelican I'm so sorry Can I go the red-eyed pelican Actually?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Of course you can Thank you Tempted to go red-eyed pelican But I don't I don't know How many kinds of pelicans are there And why would they call it red-eyed?
Starting point is 00:16:01 but the caught the last caught an overnight slot yeah kind of looks after me in the edit any any jokes
Starting point is 00:16:11 of bomb get cut so yeah it won't be so yeah fair enough I guess I'll go the red-eyed
Starting point is 00:16:17 palikin I'll go the red-eyed palikin I'm not confident in it though one atl all right all right now but that's stupid
Starting point is 00:16:25 dumb stupid dumb idiot birds and Adam did pick at that one time I'm so sorry can I change it
Starting point is 00:16:30 one more right whatever the first one is tasseled tick that's the one okay interesting yeah I don't understand
Starting point is 00:16:38 how you're playing in his game he's four steps ahead he's like 40 chess whatever the first one is no there were too many pelicans I'm gonna go to tasseled tit
Starting point is 00:16:47 there's no is it too many people pick the pelican yeah Adam's trying to only one so now there's Jackson for the crackle
Starting point is 00:16:56 no I'm for the crackle me for the pelican him for the tip I'm sorry I've changed too many times. It's funny, you changing has got me with the...
Starting point is 00:17:06 I won't do that again, I apologize. I apologize. I was in his mind, it was funny at first and I took the joke too far. You're at eye palikin. Wait. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I literally just changed your name. I deleted it and wrote it down again on both of the answers. We've produced a duplication. glitched. Oh, man. I thought you were fucking with me
Starting point is 00:17:34 when you said that again. I'm like, no, I just... No, I didn't. Oh, no. Oh, that's so funny. Okay. So Joel is the crackle. Correct.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Jackson is the Pelican. And Adam is the tit. Yes. Okay. I am a... But which answer to you? All right. Can you put me down as the correct one?
Starting point is 00:17:55 This is there are the answers. Flombade Grouch was the house. Yeah. The stupid idiot. Dumbud. that was Adam. What? No way.
Starting point is 00:18:03 No way. He picked it the diabolical genius. It was a callback. I was hoping it would double trick you or triple trick you. Oh no, I've been triple trick. I've been triple trick. Now, Tassel Titt, Adam went for that. That was Aaron the question order, aka the house.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Gotcha. Good job. Jackson Bailey went for the red-eyed pellic and that was Zamet. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Zammott went for the... the Atlantic crackle.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That was Jackson. Gotcha. They brought each other. It's nice. Basically nothing happens. Yeah. No, no. You mean, you both got a point on Adam.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am a point behind. And that does mean, that the correct answer is the green breasted mango.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Damn it. Mango is a fruit. Sambo is not a bird. It's a bird. I'm not a bit of it either. But apparently mangoes are birds. This is crazy. Can I say,
Starting point is 00:18:58 so the reason why it's called the something, I forget bird, is because I forgot that there are names for birds. I was just like, that's enough. How did you do that? That's almost impressive to forget that this kind of birds. I'm terrible with proper nouns. That is what the mango looks like.
Starting point is 00:19:19 That's a freaking homing bun. Oh, mangoes are green sometimes. It is known. On the outsides. Apparently they are. Large hummingbirds with slightly curved bills. They're known as mangoes. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So we go, okay, the evolution is hummingbird mango. Yeah, okay. Sure, we go from a hum to a mango. Sure, bird scientists. So after two rounds, Zamora the House on one point a piece, Jackson and Adam on two points a piece. Nice. Here is question three.
Starting point is 00:19:51 This comes from Keirah Jacobson, who's a Canadian living in Gisbon in Victoria. And the question is, what is the name of Canadian musician, stomp and tom's 1977 album okay 1977 97 okay what's the name yeah a Canadian musician named stomping tom well what genre he is would everyone like to know the genre
Starting point is 00:20:17 I can look it up stomping tom country and folk sing a songwriter that makes sense country and folk that sounds about right for a stomping tom you're looking like a guy who might be in the work of stomping tom right now. Where we go back?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Bolo ties? Bolo tie, yeah. I didn't, I don't dress like this normally. Just for special podcasts. Adam, I see you get your answer in so I can tell you a bit more about green breasted of mangoes.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Aaron writes, I was Googling unique bird names and this one called my eyes. It sounded more like a fruit than a bird. Damn it, you're in agreeance there with Aaron. Yeah, I am. It does sound like a fruit. Making me want mango. Yeah, mango is not one mango right now. Ordebon.org writes,
Starting point is 00:21:06 mangoes are rather large hummingbirds with slightly curved bills living around forest edges and clearings in tropical lowlands. This species is widespread in the American tropics and ranges as far north as northeast in Mexico. It has stayed north into, straight north into Texas at least 20 times. Scattered records elsewhere. As far as Georgia in the east, And as far in the north as Wisconsin,
Starting point is 00:21:32 which really shows. That's a pretty, they've gone about. Yeah, they travel. That's crazy. That bird has seen more of the world than I have. And I assume it's the one bird that's done this. I believe it is. It's just one bird.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's just one bird. Just one. Big wings band. It's funny to say that with the same cadence where like you're trying to sell someone a system and you go, it's just three steps. It's just one bird. It's just one bird.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's just one bird. That simple one, bird. Oh, the answers are in. These sound fantastic. Each of them. Thank you very much. I like it. Yeah, I mean, I probably shouldn't comment on it because I don't want to...
Starting point is 00:22:15 You don't want to give the game away. All right. I was going to say answer three. But that would really fuck it up if I just... And the answer is. Oh, no. All right. Question three.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What is the name of Canadian musician Stompin Tom's 1977 album? Stompin Tom stomps around. Okay. Option one, option two. Dog gone, stompin Tom sad. Option three, the self-titled album. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Option four, Stompin Tom at the Gumboot cloggeroo. Okay. Option four, my raisins are wrinkled. Or finally, yet even more stomping with stomping tom okay Adam what are we thinking I'm wondering
Starting point is 00:23:06 so the word gum boot because the stomp and Tom is Canadian is that correct I'm wondering if gumboot is a term used in Canada or if they have it I wouldn't right yeah because think we
Starting point is 00:23:21 what do they call them in the UK Wellington? Wellington's Galoshes what do they call them in the US? Maybe that's galoshes, is it? I have no idea. I assume it would not be... Do we call them gumboos because they were made from gum trees?
Starting point is 00:23:37 I don't know. I don't know. The sap from a gum tree? I think doesn't... Didn't we originally make rubber from the sap of gum trees? And that's maybe why we call them gumboats? Yeah. That would make sense.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, I would assume, yeah, you're right. That was why, like, yeah, I don't think it's that one because of the strength. And then there was a couple other... There was something... What's the one with raisin in it? What are that one? My raisins are wrinkled. My raisins are rankled.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Is raisin a regional term? I don't know. Great quote. What else we call on it? Now, when we're like... I don't know. Now would raisins... This is this going to sound crazy?
Starting point is 00:24:15 When were raisins in vogue? But like, you know, but we used to have like ads for raisins? Yes, yeah, yeah. Raisins were popular. That's what I mean. But I always say raisins were like a 90s thing. Yeah. And the one was like, like, dog sad.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. That seems like if a caveman. Yeah. Can you give me the last two again? Sure can. I remember being a little compelled by them. My raisins are wrinkled. And yet even more stompin with stomp and tom.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Even more stomping. And then it was self-titled. And then there was the, what was the first one? Stompon Tom stomps around. Stumpin' Tom's around. Yeah. Then there was a gum boot one. And doggone stomping Tom said.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Doggone com. I'm going to go. Because I've spent too long on this. I'm going to go, sorry, what was the last one again? Yet even more stomping. I'm going to go yet even more stomping with stomp and Tom. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Okay. Can you give me the one at the something saloon? What's that one? Stompon. Stom and Tom at the Gumboot cloggeroo? I think that's the closest to what you've described. Yeah. At the Gumboot Cloggeroo.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'm going to pick that one. I think maybe that's crazy, but I'm going to go out on a ledge, and I'm going to pick, I'm going to pick the gumboot club room. I'm going to get Adam some points. I'm going to have a dog one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It does scream out of him, isn't it? It reeks of it. It was very unfair of you to accurately call me out in the last question. All right, all locked in. Yeah, why don't? Here's who wrote the answers. The self-titled album, that was Adam. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. my God. No. Clever strategy. My raisins are wrinkled was Keira. Okay. The house, the question writer. Stomp and Tom stomped around, which feels so real to me.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I can't believe I'm saying this. That was made up by Zamet. Whoa. No one even looked at it. Yeah. No one looked at a time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yet even more stomping with stomping Tom. Adam went for that. That was Jackson. Yet even more stomp. That really feels like the natural follow-up to Zammett's one. That's what I was imagining in my world he'd really like stomping around with stomper tom
Starting point is 00:26:34 still more stomping yet even more stomping this guy can't stop yeah stompy yeah Zama went for doggone stompin' Tom said that was the house I'm afraid So there was no greater compliment than them thinking
Starting point is 00:26:49 that you'd written that one Adam kind of all right It was good And that means Jackson is correct it is stomp and Tom Tom at the gumboot cloggeroo That's crazy. I guess they do use the word gumboot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:01 What I was thinking is I was like, maybe we're thinking about it wrong. Instead of gum boot like a Wellington, it's just like a... It's like a boot from gum or whatever. You know, you know, they say, buy gum, you know? Like a gum is just like... By gum, boot. Boot. Boot I need.
Starting point is 00:27:19 No one has ever been... No one has ever sounded more stupid when being correct. Really. Gum is just like a thing you say. Like a gum shoe? Like a gum shoe? Yeah, like a gum shoe. But if like you felt well I'm a bit better than a gum shoe.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I'm a gum boot. Yeah. It does seem like well. You're going to your gum boot. Wellington's might have been the original term. Wellies or Wellington's. Yeah. Named after the Duke of Wellington.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And then in countries like South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, they're often called gumboots. This name originates from the gum rubber used to manufacture the boots, emphasizing their waterproof and durable quality. So it is. It doesn't look like, and it looks like in America,
Starting point is 00:28:06 or in Canada they obviously use the term gumboots, but it looks like in America, on one source here, it says, no one uses them. It doesn't say goloshes, rain boots, rubber boots,
Starting point is 00:28:21 and slush boots. Slush boots. I'm finding the lyrics to go. Gumboot cloggeroo. Tonight I'm due to bushwhack Sue and take her to the gumboot cloggeroo. And we'll do a little gomboot clogging. Oh, clogging. Do a little gumboot cloggeroo, of course.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I thought a cloggeroo was a comment on the, like, the poor quality of toilets. Yeah. I'm picturing the cloggeroo being like, all they, just a wall of. Yeah, yeah, it's cloth. Yeah. And I'm like, this. I'm like, it's a comedy song I guess I'll go see Stomp and Tom
Starting point is 00:28:59 It makes way more sense. He loves clog shitters. Yeah, I really like the way in this song They've spelled bowl, obviously like a bowl of soup Or in this case, clam chowder. Is it B-O-O-L-E or something? No, it's because he's singing it,
Starting point is 00:29:14 but it's B-O-E-E-E-E-D-O-E-E-D-O. Because he's saying a bo-e-o. Stew and a bo-e-o-e-o. of clam chowder. Do country singers from Canada still sing with that southern twang? I'm sure they must, some equivalent, surely. There are Australian
Starting point is 00:29:35 ones if we do. But you can tell with the Australian country, you can tell, you can still hear the Aussie accent. I think through it. Probably you can't be the Canadian. I would imagine. Yeah. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Surely. I would guess. There's probably slightly more talk singing than maybe classic pop. music. Yeah, for sure. The accents all sort of smooth, the accents all
Starting point is 00:29:58 sort of smooth out a bit. Yeah. As opposed to like pop punk where, uh, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:05 The Australians who do that Californian sort of voice always felt a bit funny. Yeah, that is a lot of you. I see where you influence. Yeah, I guess,
Starting point is 00:30:14 but, uh, come on guys. Um, all right. Have I told you, I've told you the real answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I've lost myself down to the clockeroo. Yeah. To come to a man. Gumboo cloggeroo. Gungboo cloggeroo. I'm there, brother, I'm there. So the house got a point there from Zammett. Jackson got a point from Adam.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And Jackson also got the point for getting the correct answer. I'm going to crazy. Yeah. So halfway mark, the scores. It's heating up here. Yeah. Zammot on one. Adam in the house on two, but now out in front.
Starting point is 00:30:46 On four points, it's Jackson. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The king returns. Return of the king. Right? Question four. comes from Jim Bates from Sacketts Harbour in New York.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And the question is, what is the name of the linebacker who played for the LSU Tigers, Cleveland Browns, and New England Patriots in the 2010s? It doesn't really matter. It's just a footballer with an interesting name. Okay. Okay. American footballer, linebacker, which is a position.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Can't be more specific than that. He's at the back line. Well, you're writing your answers. Here's a little more info about stomping tone. According to Kira, Stompin' Tom was a Canadian singer-songwriter. His character was rough but genuine, as the National Post noted, his persona wasn't shtick. Stomp and Tomp and Tom was one of the great Canadian storytellers and a uniquely collegial one as well. The proper venue for a Gordon Lightfoot performance is a concert hall where the audience connects silently and contemplatively.
Starting point is 00:31:52 The proper venue for Stompon Tom, on the other hand, was a smoky bar room where people connected. by slamming their beer mugs together. Oh, yeah. Hopefully obliterating whatever differences existed between them. That's beautiful. Here's you something, Tom. I really like... That's beautiful stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really like that. Hey, while you're still writing your answer, let's go for a quick break. All right, we're back. The answer in. Here is question number four. What is the name of the linebacker who played
Starting point is 00:32:23 for various teams, including the LSU Tigers, Cleveland Browns and New England Patriots in the 2010s? Here are your options. Franklin A. Runner. Okay. Lench peanut butter Hendrickson. Panned sauerkraut.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Barquevious Mingo. Alanus Morissette. Or Hingel McRingalberry. It's a bit... I kind of knew this going in, but it is a bit like that Key and Peele sketch. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Okay. The problem is none of them... Well, sometimes you get one that's so absurd you can immediately eliminate it. Yeah. But with something like this, I mean, what's the Hingle McDi-Dinglebury? Probably Henrik Sourcrowd is not a linebacker. Right? I don't know. But is Hans Sourcrow.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, I'm like Han Sourcrow. Like surely, but then again, I guess it is notable. Yeah. Their name is Hans. You'd bring it up. But Sourcrowd, does anybody's real surname Sourcrow? Can you give me the first names of each one? Not the last names?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Just the first names because I need to know them in like, you know what I mean? first. Franklin? Franklin's a name. Lynch. I don't know if that's a name. Lynch. Lange Hans is a name.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Barcavius. That can't be a name. Alanus. That's a name. Engel. That can't pick your name. That's one for one. I think you've got the right idea, but you're coming at it from the wrong direction.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Because first names, you can just make up a first name. You can just make up a first name. You can just take something random. Yeah. You could be crackled. The number of, you know, like, freaking famous people who are calling the kids Apple and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But a surname comes with history. Can we get the surname? Just a surname. Just a surname. Rana. Okay. That could be possible. Hendrickson. That's a name. Pretty normal.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Sourcrow. That's not. I don't know. That's food. Hard dissection. Mingo. No, I don't know. Morissette.
Starting point is 00:34:26 That's a name. That's a name. We know that's a name. McRingalberry. No. Seems unlikely. That seems so unlikely. The ones I'm tossing up between and it's insane is Alanis Morissette. Because that would be like notable, but it's not absurd.
Starting point is 00:34:43 If there was a lineback whose name just happened to also be Alonis Morissette. And what was the one that name started like bechievous? Barquevius Mingo. Barquevius Mingo. I might lock in Barquevius Mingo. I like the, Becivius Mingo. The last one, which was not a name. or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It seems silly. But then the runner one, because it's a line, what's a linebacker do? A linebacker does running, I'm fairly sure. I'll do a bit of running. American football is a lot of running
Starting point is 00:35:09 back and forth across the field. Yeah. So I'm like, the runner, maybe that's notable. Yeah. Because you're like, well,
Starting point is 00:35:16 he's running. And he's a runner. He's a running. Isn't notable enough for someone to ride into the, that's what I'm thinking, which is like, well,
Starting point is 00:35:22 I don't know, a linebacker is at the running position in that team. I don't know. I think it's, The linebacker, not the one, yes. That's the one where they're standing behind. They throw to them.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And then that person does like the goal around. The quarterback, they're the thrower guy. Yeah. And they throw it to the linebacker, I think. This is, I have, I feel more like that SpongeBob meme where he's a big nerd. Yeah. Look at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 When I give you this advice. You look like you could be staying on the sideline coach. Yeah, you look at your coach right now. You do. Close your eyes and remember what I normally. I know, I know. Hey, I have seen Friday Night Lights, but that's the extent of my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I know what a coach is. That's pretty universal. That's pretty useful. That's not even a sport. I'm not a coach. I'm pretty sure a quarterback, he's the one who throw? Yeah. You're bird Reynolds in the whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, absolutely. I believe the linebacker then gets the ball and then the idea is, yeah, they try to get around the line. Okay. So run up, but it's like, I mean, yeah, notable. That is notable, but then like the McRingleberry or whatever is
Starting point is 00:36:32 very stupid and funny. Mingor. Peanut butter Hendrickson or... I'm going to go with Hans. I'm going to go with Hans sourout. I was kind of thinking Hans Sommackrant. Yeah, Lynch
Starting point is 00:36:43 peanut butter Hendrickson. Yeah. There's a great mix of things in there. Taking some of the best of all the others. A real surname. A food. Yeah. And a weird first note.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. It's kind of got a bit of everything. It does. Smorgas bored, really. Oh, that would have been a good fake name. Oh, yeah. Smorgers board. Because peanut butter, I'm like, oh, that's their nickname.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Board, if it's not. What if their name is peanut butter? There are no rules, apparently. There are rules in the name. Whatever you want. There's a list in Australia of men. It's a linchpin. It's not allowed to use.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yes. There's like a lot of countries have that. It's just like you can't. I don't know if peanut butter is on it. Yeah, don't think it is. I wonder what happens if you go from a country, if you emigrate from a country with a looser naming convention. Don't.
Starting point is 00:37:29 to another country with a tighter naming It's so funny to imagine to be... That's on your passport, though. So you have to... But it's so funny, you go your passport, and they look down and they go, Grambus, and you go, yeah, Grambus. And they go, oh, you're just going to step aside.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You can't change your name. Yes, my legal name is fuck-f. Sorry, are we allowed to swale? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're a little bit too, and it's up to
Starting point is 00:37:54 what he does. Oh, exactly. But I think he just, he normally just tells me, if he thinks the episode is child friendly enough. There's like a, either either he or no way, by somewhat he believes.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah. I don't know what his sort of. What his margin is. I hope, Connor, you do some sort of edit where I do not really appear in this episode. And people are confused why I'm sitting here next to Joel. Never gives an answer. Never give an answer.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah, let's look at like Hans. Why not? Okay, how that's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's, so I really liked Alonis Morissette, but I'm not a big, I'm not, I can't get into it completely because I genuinely don't know. Is Alonis a gendered name? Probably yes.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I don't know, but also. Lench a name. Yeah. But I think Alonis is not a gendered name, but I think that matters less and less. the, you know, like it is 2026. Exactly. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 The ones that once would Jen did. Daryl is very much these days a very masculine name. It used to be. The reverse. Can you give me the list of names again? Frank? Can you cut out the ones they've already picked?
Starting point is 00:39:12 I don't want, I don't want someone else. I don't want someone else's sloppy names. Okay. Okay. Franklin Aerunner, Lynch Peanut Butter Hendrickson,
Starting point is 00:39:22 Alanus Morissette or Hingled, Kringlemer. Give me Hingle. Lock in Hingle. Woking Hingle. Hingles looked in. Here's the road of the answers.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Franklin A. Rana, that was Adam. Okay. Yeah. For the American football fans, really frustrated with Adam's description of a longbacker. He was blagin. He was blagin. Who's blagging his wife?
Starting point is 00:39:48 He was on the blacking wagon wagon. Yeah. He was a blacking. The lawnbacker's like a defensive player. I have no idea. A longbacker. I don't know. I think you might have been talking more about a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Sure. Great, man. I thought it was great blagin. Yeah. I was flamed by the side of the sand of my hands. Or were you talking about a running back? Maybe. He could have been.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I know they do 78, 62, 5. And then they throw the ball backwards. What do you imagine those numbers refer to? I think a play or the numbers on the back of the gym? Is it like a code? Yeah. They've been a curious. Candidating their own team
Starting point is 00:40:27 Is it maybe something to do with like The plays they have? Maybe. No, that's got a bit of jury candidate Because I love the idea of watching your guys run forward And then one runs into the crowd To kill the price to do it or something. You go, oh, he said the code wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That was like the, but one of the naked guns had that as a baseballer Yeah, and picked up the plate And there was a gun underneath. They just sort of walk in like a robot towards the queen. That was actually Queen was in a second? That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's good stuff. That is great funny. Good on them. Okay. So what have I said? Yes, Adam did Franklin A Runner. Jackson did Lench Peanut Butter Hendrickson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It was nicknamed in inverted commas. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't hear that, unfortunately. Lynch. And it would have been, yeah. Yeah. I felt like I would have been given you away if I said.
Starting point is 00:41:17 No, of course. Of course. I thought Lench would have given me away, honestly. I thought Lynch is a great name. I was actually thinking Dingleberry was you Because you've used that name in D&D before. Oh, there you go, I see. Well, he might have used Dingleberry,
Starting point is 00:41:31 but he didn't use Hingle McRingleberry, which Adam went for, but that wasn't, I'm afraid, Jim, the question not, okay, the house. You're almost going to go for Alainas Morissette. And, I mean, I'm looking at it, and you're asking if it's a gender name. The name is Alan is.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Do you think about it? Oh, yeah, that's true. What does that mean? Oh, my God. But I feel like it's a clue. Yeah. Put it on the cork board. It's a clue.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And that was Joel Zammett. Yeah. Both of you were like, oh, you were so close. The flippers. A lot of flippers. Here I am going. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Choose it. Go on. Do you think that's a good answer? Zama went for hands. I'm afraid that was the hell. What? No way. You're idiot.
Starting point is 00:42:18 That's food. Didn't you know? And that means Jackson is correct. It is Barquevius Mingo. Oh my God. Birth certificate, real name. That rocks. I didn't know if I should mention this,
Starting point is 00:42:35 but Barquevius is actually a very old, like Mediterranean name. It kind of sounded like an old name. And then Mingo, was that the other one? Yeah. I was like, I don't know all the surnames. But I know all the foods.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I don't know all the surnames. Yeah, I don't know all the surnames. Wow, what a line. That's really interesting because, yeah, apparently the mom made the name up. Yeah. Oh, dude, she just happened to. Well, maybe the spelling's different. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:43:04 All right. So, geez, that was a big round for the house there. Yeah. Jackson is from Zammett and Kanavelay. Yeah. But Bailey, Jackson B. Bailey. Jackson B. Bailey is, yeah, still leading. Zammots on one.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Adam Kanavalet on two houses up on four points now. but Jackson's still out in front. Five. Damn. Someone called the cops to get Jackson off the play, the field of play. Is he's on a hot streak? Thanks a lot. Where's this going?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Where's he going with? Why, the police? This doesn't, he's definitely fucked it off. This doesn't seem like a police matter. It works better if I say security. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. On a hot streak.
Starting point is 00:43:51 like a and the like you know what actually is running naked through the is that you're saying the street is like him running naked
Starting point is 00:43:59 yeah like running naked on the field yeah that makes sense you know what I retract thank you for understand
Starting point is 00:44:05 that I'm explaining I didn't realize people hadn't got it yeah I retract my statement I just kind of assume everyone's on my level yeah
Starting point is 00:44:13 get on it if you're not get up here without him or the penultimate question here okay Come. Two people sent this in separately.
Starting point is 00:44:24 What the heck? Rachel Johnson from Melbourne and Jason Westner from Chester Springs, Pennsylvania. Cool. Send him the question. Charles Old Hoss, that's his nickname. Radburn, which is such a great surname. Yeah. Charles Old Hoss Radbourne was an American professional baseball player from 1880 to 1891.
Starting point is 00:44:46 What non-baseball act is he also known for? He's sort of known for another thing, like a non-baseball thing that he was like, this is his history remembers him. While you're writing your answers, here's some more info about Barcaevious. According to Jim. According to Jim.
Starting point is 00:45:07 That's a bit of fun. Okay. Oh, that's really good. Got a Jim, the question writer, which I think was the full name of that sitcom. Barcaveas won a Super Bowl with the Patriots in 2017. And Mingo is the son of Hugh.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Mingo and Barbara Johnson, his unusual name, first name was created by his mother, adding the first three letters of her first name to a name she liked, which was Kivius. Of course. And he has two brothers, Hugh and Hugh Tavius. Whoa. Who have a similar name and convention after their father. Hugh Mingo is what I would name if I was a mad scientist and I was making Flamingo man. Oh, he would say, oh.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It's a Hugh mingo, you know. Oh, what about a green breasted mingo? Oh, now that's good. Sounds delicious. Sounds underripe, you know? Yeah, it does. I really? I think, I think Barcavious works.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. I don't know if Hugh Tavius does as well. Especially when your brother's Hugh. Yeah. Because if it's like I don't know, I feel like one of them is going to feel superior, but I don't know which one. Yeah, that's so true. If I'm Hugh Tavius, I'm like, yeah, your name's half of my name. Garbage where I'd be like, yeah, I'm Hugh and you're Huteavius.
Starting point is 00:46:26 My name's a name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is true. Yeah. So I don't know. Somehow it feels like if you name one of your kids like, like, I don't know, Johnson, and then the other kid, Johnsoner. Yeah. Not John and Johnson.
Starting point is 00:46:43 No, Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, like Hugh and Tavius. John, Johnson and John. Johnsoner and Johnson. The other one somehow. I am Johnsonist. It doesn't work if you're not standing next to your siblings. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's good to have names that only work when you're next to your sibling. All right, the answer in. Question number five, Charles Old Hoss Radbourne was an American professional baseball player in the 1880s. What else is he known for? Here are your options. He was the man who killed John Wilkes Booth. Hmm. He was the first person to be photographed giving the finger.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Okay, okay. He was the first man to get fired out of a cannon under non-circust conditions. Feels like the opposite of like a sterile mud environment. We've tested this in both circus and non-circic conditions. He was the first man to circumnavigate the world on a bicycle. He traveled to and from his day job by hugging the leg of his pet elephant. Or, finally, hog chasing. Hog chasing, full stop?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Ah, no full stop. Okay, hog chasing loose. I'm less into it now. God damn. Okay. Hog chasing, he was well known for hog chasing in his day. Yeah, that's a good way. If you say he was well known for X in his day, conversationally, see what feels right in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:48:18 He was well known for being the only man. Okay, so the guy who killed JFK's killer. Yeah. No, Lincoln's killer. Lincoln's killer. Yeah. So, yeah, Lincoln's killer. I think now, was this the guy that also castrated himself?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Oh. I don't think so. That might have been, what's the guy who, what's assassin am I thinking of? The guy who castrated himself was pretty sure he was part of the party that got John Wilkes' book. No, I think it is him. I think, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. I think the guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I did a full do-go-on podcast episode about John Wilkes Booth. Yeah. You didn't call him. It's so funny if that is true. And I either talked about and don't remember or left out what is undoubtedly an interesting fact about this guy. Yeah, the guy that got John Mooghbub, I'm pretty sure. That's a lot because I might find the answer. Yeah, kidney stones and basically got a knife and...
Starting point is 00:49:14 Chucked it up the Gucci. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cut his own Gucci open. Yeah. and did some squats to get rid of it. Yeah. Do you remember? But do I remember his name? What I want to know, though, is does the timeline?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, does the timeline work as well? Because also, I'm like, that does seem like, you know, yeah, an answer one of us might have put. Yeah. Because when was Lincoln president? 1800s? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Civil war.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Civil war, the end of slavery. It ends, I don't know the exact year. Late 1860. I believe. I believe that would work maybe. So yeah, I'm pretty sure like the person that had, who did, well, one of the pilot did kill John Wilkesburg, was fairly like famous for other stuff. He was like a mountaineering kind of man, like a frontiersman. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Kind of be crazy. I don't know if he played baseball. No, no. Hugging an elephant, I don't know if elephants, I mean, look, things are pretty loose back in the day. You could do whatever you want it. You could own anything, really. But importing an elephant. I don't. It is kind of a terrible way to pilot an elephant.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah, it's not how I would do it. So I'm navigating the world in a bicycle. I don't know if that's even possible. Yeah. I think there's... Do you count it if it's boats over the oceans? If you say on the bike on the boat, it counts. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You're cycling around. You're an exercise bike. No, I don't know that counts. In fact, if that is true and he did do it that way, I'm calling bullshit. So you don't think it counts. I'm going from, Sam going from the tip of Australia, tip of Queensland, North Queensland to like Indonesia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And I ride my bike off the tip onto a boat. And then for the entire journey, I'm circling. That's fucked off. There's a guy. There's a guy who's like, I'm basically walking around like the world or whatever, only by foot. And he had to like, you know, swim across like, you know, like, you know, like icebergs and kind of jump between or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Really? Yeah, yeah. Like, the hardest part I think was getting detained in Russia. But like, yeah. So you're like taking a boat at all is cheating? Yeah. That's crazy to mind. You're not biking.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You're taking a boat. No. That's like getting a treadmill and being like, I walk the world. No, you're a treadmill. If you're on a treadmill and people carry the treadmill around the world, they did so much better job than you did. You accept, you would accept, if I would a bike around the world, you would accept to stay on land if I had to go up to the North Pole or something like that
Starting point is 00:51:45 and then come back down so that I would be on. land the entire time on my bike. That is acceptable. I reckon yeah. So if I, just on the North Pole, did a little that. Would you say that was going around the world? A little stinker's version. I'm just trying to, that doesn't seem logical to me.
Starting point is 00:52:02 To please, I think if you were going to bike around the world, you, what about this? Once I reach the ocean, I exchange my traditional bike for like one of those bikes, like a paddle boat bike. Like a paddle boat bike. Yeah. That's a hundred percent count. I agree. I don't know if you could do that. that, but that would be entertaining to find out.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I think Hamish and he tried nearly die. Yeah, that sounds about right. From memory. So I think I can there rule out. The ocean's very big and waves get very big. And you'll get very tired. So I think, yeah, I don't think he did the bike thing. I thought half these, every time I'm on the show,
Starting point is 00:52:35 like that can't be the right answer. And then it's the right answer. Well, I think the bike thing is, it could have happened. You just wouldn't count it. I would not count it. I would, I would refuse it. Do you wear a boat? Do you have any sort of mechanistic?
Starting point is 00:52:47 on this show, may I ask, do you have any sort of mechanism for if a contestant does not count what your answer? Yeah, but contestant wants to contest the answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe this is what he's known for, but I don't think he should be.
Starting point is 00:53:04 No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so, what are the other thing? So, God. Killed John Wiltspooth, photographed, given the finger, first person to do that. Okay, matter maybe. When was the finger invented? Oh, great question.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I don't know. People always love to quote that English longbow fact or whatever. I don't know if that's actually true, but I think I think it is quite old. So, no, like, in baseball, like the high five is apparently, like,
Starting point is 00:53:27 that's, like, the 70s, right? But this is the whole thing about, like, that work. But this is the photographed as well. And he died in 1930 something? Well, we just know he played baseball from 1880 to 80, 91. Okay. So there would be, like, yeah, early photographs happening around that time.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, yeah. Not a lot like Okay, okay What's the next one? You got the bike, you got fight out of a Cannon under non-circust conditions You got Traveled by Elephant Leg
Starting point is 00:53:59 Or hog chasing Maybe hog chasing So you're thinking hog chasing A full stop No full stop You're thinking photograph given the figure Hog chasin and the man Who killed John Wills
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, those are three I'm those are my options That I'm thinking about Because the others seem pretty ridiculous They're all ridiculous. I'm going to go with finger. Finger. Finger.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Interesting. Finger for Zamet. What do you think you know? I'm going to go. He's going into his mind palace. Oh, yes. He's thinking about biking around the world. He counts.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Talk people through what you're saying. What was what I'm seeing right now, Adam, go into your mind palace. I'm going to describe it to people. Okay, so firstly, I've got to say what I'm hearing, which is faint classical music. As Adam explores the vast palace. he's built in his mind. But he might access any information that he's ever received
Starting point is 00:54:53 in his life. He wonders, his fingers rub again. He looks like he's in a lot of me. Something bad is happening in the palace. Samut, get him out. The house is crumbling. It's a crumpling. It's a marble. Put me down for bacon around the world, please. Back and around the world.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Baking around the world. I think I'm going to go, and I'm really not confident in it because I don't know if the timeline works, but I might go John Wilkes Booth? I really wanted to say Hog Jason. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I don't know. The time. I don't know. It's hard to say but I'm going to go. Yeah. All right. The answers.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Traveled to him from his day job on the leg of an elephant. That was the house. Okay. Okay. Uh, hog chasing.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yeah. That was Zamet. It's good. It's good answer. It's so much. Get a full stop. Drop the jury. Every other answer was written out really eloquently.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And then I'm like, oh, fuck, too. No, hog Jason. God. That nearly tricked me
Starting point is 00:55:47 because it wasn't so eloquent. I was like, maybe what's funny about it is just that it was hog chasing. I was thinking, when I heard hog chasing, I was thinking, oh, like, what it occurred to me in that moment was writing something that wasn't that big a deal. He was just like, when they say,
Starting point is 00:56:04 oh, he was known for this, just like among his friends. Yeah, it doesn't have to have to be. But he's also like a gun baseball player. He's hogs. He's also chest and hogs. He's also, just and hogs. If he was a modern day sports person,
Starting point is 00:56:16 that's what he did. I went 100% behind. I was thinking about that. I forget the baseball guy, the name of him, but he was just known for chasing fire, like, fire, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rube Goldberg. Inverald.
Starting point is 00:56:30 The Rube. Yeah, yeah. Love that guy. Anyway. Who else do we have? We had first band to be fired out of a cannon under non-circus conditions. That was Jackson Bailey. Yeah, figured as much.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Far enough ahead, I could do a joke one. Uh, first man to say, navigate the world on a bike. Oh, too early to hear. That was Rachel. Okay, the question right. Okay, the house. Man, I love giving it to the person
Starting point is 00:56:55 who wrote the question. I love them. That's your favorite thing in the world. Jackson Bailey went for the man who killed John Wilkes Booth. That was Adam Carnival. Oh, I did. As I was writing it,
Starting point is 00:57:06 as I was writing it, I was like, as if they're going to do the time line. Oh, damn. Turned out to be Mr. Knows the killer of John Wilson. Didn't know the guy's name. He knew about his gooch situation. It's so funny to know someone's gooch situation, but not their name. His name is Boston Corbett.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Apparently, a friend recounted Corbett telling them that, quote, The Lord directed him in a vision or in some way to castrate himself, which he did with a pair of scissors. He then had a meal, attended a prayer. meeting and then someone was sent to get medical treatment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It was like, hey, great player. Your balls are drool. You're sitting in a puddle right now. This is a good way to do it though. And that would have been like with a knife. With a knife, it's hard to do it yourself. No, you want to do it? The Romans did.
Starting point is 00:58:06 We just get a big rock. I was going to say a big cleaver. What are you just a rock? Yeah, so I think it was a way to make Castro back to day. You place the balls on a rock, then you get another rock, you just crush them.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Okay, that makes sense. And then they wither and drop off. But I think you need a second person for that. You need a second person for that. You do it like a sheep's tail. Oh, you dock yourself. Yeah, that's smart. Your balls on a rock,
Starting point is 00:58:32 then you pick up the rock and you drop the rock from a high. Yeah. I don't see that as being easy. Cissors I can do on my own. I don't know. Cizzes is just one and bang. No, it's not. Because the rock you drop and it's too late.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It's gravity. Cissors, you nick it little. be like maybe this is a mistake. You could do the exact same. No, you just... No. Dexas, what are you talking about? Rocks, I'm awful rock.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Rock's the word of category. This is how rock work on gravity. No. No. Rock beat scissors at us. No. No, rock beat scissors out of. Next you're going to say paper. Paper cut your balls off.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You're insane. Two of you were insane and I hate you. God. So the correct answer. Yeah. Oh yeah. So the correct answer was he was the first person to be photographed giving the finger. God damn.
Starting point is 00:59:16 My deduction makes sense. I knew talking shit about the bike would have been there. You really worked your way through very honestly there. So going to the final round, which is worth triple points. The scores are now, Zamin on two points, Adam on three points, but out in front on five points of pieces, Jackson and the house. Ooh, baby.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Someone called a fire engine because Jackson's on a hot street. Whoa, that's really good. Damn, man, that's quick, dude. That's rude. He's really good stuff. So it is triple points final round. Still truly anyone's game. And the final question, we always finish with a movie synopsis.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Remember, triple points, you could, if you nail this round, you get nine points and easily win. That is true. Any of you three. It could happen. All right. Final question comes from Paul Meller from Oldham in the UK. The question is, what is the synopsis of the 1979 film Murder by Decree? but about a creed
Starting point is 01:00:14 just a short brief synopsis short paragraph three four sentences if you give us that that would be helpful you want me to give that to you yeah
Starting point is 01:00:23 while you're writing your answers I'll let the listeners know a bit more about this guy Charles Old Hoss Radbourne and the finger really more importantly
Starting point is 01:00:36 this is from an article in USA Today a football player from the University of Tennessee raised a pair of middle fingers to the University of Alabama student section on Saturday. This is a story from last year. A Michigan player offered the same twin salute to the Penn State crowd on the same night. Their double digit discurtecies were sophomoric in tone, but historic in nature.
Starting point is 01:01:00 The middle finger predates the Middle Ages. Deogenes raised his to demosthenes in ancient Greece. And the Romans had a name for the obscene insult, Digitus impudicus, or impudent, impudent finger. Impudent? Impudent? Impudent? I believe it's, I would pronounce it impudent, but I don't know if that's right at all.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I think that sounds better. Okay. So the finger form of FU goes back to millennia or more. But the first known photograph of someone flipping the bird comes from American sports. means Tennessee's Rashan Golden and Michigan's Lavert Hill are the latest exemplars of an uncivil sporting tradition
Starting point is 01:01:48 begun at least as far back as 1886 by workhorse pitcher Charles Old Hoss Radbourne. On opening day of New York's polo grounds that year, Radbourne's Haggud's Radbourne's baseball team by the way, the Boston Bean Eaters.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Oh yeah, that's good. So his Boston Bean Eaters were playing against their rivals the New York Giants and if you see the photo taken that day the team photo you'll see Radbourne in the back row far left with his middle finger slyly extended
Starting point is 01:02:22 it's hard to notice at first and then there it is once seen it can't be unseen Old Hoss given the old middle finger to the giants or maybe the world is a timeless insult frozen in time If old Hoss can appear in a photograph from the 19th century Robert Thompson tells you
Starting point is 01:02:39 today. That's enough tradition for me to say that the middle finger is a part of the great American pastime. Old Hoss is in the Baseball Hall of Fame. He won a record 59 games for the Providence Grays in 1884, just a couple of seasons before his hide-in-planesite middle finger photo. Unless you think that the placement of his digit could have been some of a benign accident, Bradbourne went rogue again in 1887, when he appeared on an early baseball card with hand on hip, middle finger extended. Radbourne biographer Edward Aikorn chose that image
Starting point is 01:03:19 for the cover of his book 59 in 84. Old Hoss Radbourne, bare-handed baseball, and the greatest season a pitcher ever had. He's got this innocent expression on his face, and then he's doing that on the side, Aikon says. They airbrushed out the finger from some of the cards that were released, but obviously the image survived. Acorn editorial page editor of the Providence Journal says
Starting point is 01:03:44 Radbourne was known for a sense of humour and a taste for drink. One of his relatives claims he drank up to a quart of whiskey a day at the height of his career. And now Old Hoss is sometimes better known for a single finger on his left hand than for winning 59 games in a single season with his right. Ah yes, Old Hoss and the bird. beautiful story and well told by USA Today.
Starting point is 01:04:14 A lot of bird. It's been a bird. It has been a lot of bird talk. That's true. Answers are in. Final question. What is the synopsis of the 1979 film Murder by Decree? Option one.
Starting point is 01:04:31 A series of short vignettes whereby members of the British aristocracy order people to be murdered. Each story results in the downfall of the character ordering the murder Made on a shoestring budget This underground cult film demonstrated the post-punk regard for British monarchy Alright Option one option two A racist cop receives the heart transplant From a black lawyer he hates
Starting point is 01:04:57 Who returns as a ghost To ask the cop to take down the men who killed him Okay Classic buddy cop pairing of a black ghost and racist cop. But there was that movie where a black man, it might have been a black nationalist, and a racist man, they get sewn together
Starting point is 01:05:18 in a stuck on you type situation. Ever seen that movie? It's not very good. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, crazy. Option three, a 1979 red scare propaganda piece starring all-American housewife, Joan Dillinger.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Joan is sure. shocked to discover that her husband Elliot is guilty of murder but will not be charged as Elliot an adjudicator for their local communist council was ordered to round up America's still, Americans still displaying the flag on their front lawn. Dutifully, Elliot rounded up 16 of their neighbours for execution only to discover after the fact that in their fever to prosecute them, the council hasn't yet decreed that displaying the flag is a crime. Elliot, now a murderer, is disgusted with.
Starting point is 01:06:07 himself and what he has become and Joan must watch as he unsuccessfully tries to get himself convicted of murder. Okay. Okay. Option four. Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson attempt to solve the Jack the Ripper
Starting point is 01:06:24 murders in foggy Victorian London. They're aided by their combined intellect, a psychic and Sherlock's lethal weaponized scarf. Will they find the killer before anyone else is murdered. Weaponized scoff.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I like that. Now that's interesting. Well, finally, stranded in a seedy backwater, gangster on the run, Red featherweight McGee, finds himself embroiled in a bizarre, small town court case. A woman is being accused of breaking the town's
Starting point is 01:06:55 sacred and magical golden amulet, and the town is intent on a hang-in. Now, Red finds himself in the unlikely position of prosecutor with the clock running out and a life on the line. These all sound like great films. Now I watch every one of these.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Every single one. Yeah, movie marathon after? Yeah, I mean, only one of them exist. We can watch one and then we just sit and imagine the others. Tell stories about it.
Starting point is 01:07:21 All right. I think Adam, it's your go. Give me. All of them again. I'll give you the first line of each, maybe. Yeah. A series of short vignettes. A racist cop receives a heart.
Starting point is 01:07:37 transplant. A 1979 Red Scare propaganda piece. Sherlock Holmes and Dr.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Watson attempt to solve the Jack the Ripper murders or stranded in seedy backwater
Starting point is 01:07:48 gangster on the run Red featherweight McGee. McGee. Featherweight McGee. I said first
Starting point is 01:07:55 sentence I gave your first half sentences probably. I don't think that last one could be it.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Where's the murder by decree? Hmm. Hmm. When were, okay, so 77 was it?
Starting point is 01:08:06 79. 79. Okay. Commy scare. Now, that seems more like the 60s. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Like if we're making films. Well, yeah, but it's very common back. I get it, I get it. But no, in the 60s,
Starting point is 01:08:20 that would have been the big, the big commie scare for sure. That's like the commies. People still do red scare stuff. Of course we still do. And there is, yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:27 what the Cold War was probably? Yeah. Yeah. When was, cooling down? Yeah. Go Wolverines. What's that movie?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Oh, yeah. Red dawn. Red dawn. Red Thorn's the 80s, yeah. I think, and I'm just, you're asking about the, like, the murder by decree would be having this woman hanged. Ah, okay. If the court decides that way. What the court's doing, it's not a murder, is it?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Well, that's the decree, I guess. I see. I, it's a state execution. Yeah. Okay. I think give me ghost cop, racist cop. I'll go with that one, please. We're going to go and go play ghost cop, racist.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I'm a ghost cop, you do a racist cop. It's a death version. I'm not here. No matter what I do, you can't say I'm here. Woohoo! Could be a version of duck, duck, goose. Ghosts cop, racist cop. Ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost, racist cop.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Okay. All right. Jackson, what do you think? Okay. The idea of a weaponized scoff is something. about that feels so specific that it feels like it could almost be real. But then I also think about
Starting point is 01:09:41 that first one with the British monarchy makes me think of the video nasties which I think was the 70s, maybe that was the 80s, which was like there was this real like faces of death, Cannibal Holocaust, like let's just make
Starting point is 01:09:55 the most fucked up movies we can. Was that in the 70s? It might have been the 80s. Cannibal Holocaust is like a lot. Isn't Cannibal Holocaust? Actually might not be part of the video nasties. Oh, I was going to say, for Cannibal Hardlecost was like 76.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah. So I just, there was this kind of gonzo, gory, you know, filmmaking. I can't think of the gonzo you're thinking of. Without a little muppet.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I'm thinking of, yeah, I'm thinking of the Muppets. I'm gonna, yeah, I don't know if I quite buy that one, but I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna go with the,
Starting point is 01:10:28 Option one. Aristocrats. I was thinking that as well. That was gonna be my other choice. Like, I don't know, like a vignette. It just seems also something
Starting point is 01:10:34 that one of us would come up with. But then I know that a lot of The video, like, Faces of Death, which is a famous video nasty, is just like a series of things happening. Yeah, there's a series of grisly murders and real murder footage. So, I don't know. I'm going for it. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:48 All right. Then we've got the scarf one, which has been seen pretty funny. We've then got the Mick, the last one, which is just like, I don't know, the hanging of the woman. Red feather white McGee. Yeah. Red featherweight McGee. I don't think it's that one.
Starting point is 01:11:01 You've got the, what are the ones that haven't been chosen, sorry? Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson with the weaponized scarf. The Red Scare. And yeah, the red featherweight McGee. You know what? Actually, I'm so sorry. There's one last option in this round. I said I wouldn't do this again. Can you give me Sherlock Holmes instead, please?
Starting point is 01:11:27 I was about to be like, he wanted Sherlock Holmes before, but that could be a thing. He was going to trick me. Adam's trick. He was going to lock in Sherlock Holmes for me. Yeah, it could be Adam's trick. He wanted Sherlock Holmes. I don't remember. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:11:37 He said something about the scarf was compelling. Yes, that's right. Yeah. I did so. What did you say? You were like something was... I forget what I said. I pay more attention to this guy.
Starting point is 01:11:49 He's selling the important stuff. Like, tell him. I speak the truth. Tell him. Tell him what you were telling me earlier. What was I telling you earlier? You guys happy with Adam to change his answer? Oh, I'll allow it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Nor. No. I'll try it. Then I'll stick with my original. whatever that was. I want to go to the Doctor Who one. Okay, for whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:14 The Doctor Who one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's free Doctor Who on his scarf. Yeah. So you want that one? I've got racist cop, ghost cop. Yeah. No, actually, I'm happy with racist cop.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's a good pick. Yeah. You're going back to racist cop. Yeah. I never left. Give me Dr. Hu or whatever. The Sherlock Holmes. Here's the right.
Starting point is 01:12:40 The answers. The one about red featherweight McGee being stranded in a seedy backwater. That was Jackson Bailey. Yeah. I wouldn't have picked that for you. And what I was saying about the... Yeah, yeah, you nailed it.
Starting point is 01:12:51 That was a sure. Yeah, it was a sure answer. Sometimes they're sure. Yeah. I think that would be an interesting movie to watch. The one about the Red Scare propaganda piece.
Starting point is 01:13:03 That was Adam Kahnivalet. I thought it might have been. almost all of my time trying to write an army one. And then I was like, that's too obvious. And then I wrote one you picked immediately. It was too long. I didn't actually pick it as yours. And I just was like, that's too long.
Starting point is 01:13:20 It's not real. I also feel like I don't know how to write a IMDB. I just don't think I know how to do that. Yeah, fair. Okay. So that means one of the three of you has got it right. That's exciting. That is exciting.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Jackson Bailey, the current leader of the game. game went for the short vignettes. I don't think that's... Adam Carnivali went for the racist cop ghost. Okay. And Joel Zammett went for Holmes and Watson. Before you give the answer, do any of us want to double our money? You're going to answer.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Do we want to buy insurance from the house? Does that mean, wait, who's left? Is, um, uh, if any of us said, I have, no, your one hasn't been revealed yet. that our ones have been revealed? No, they've all been revealed. Mine hasn't. Yeah, his one hasn't been revealed. So one of us have picked Joel's one.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very true, very true. And that person is you, Adam. The racist cop with a heart transplant. That seems a bad right. That's so funny. After I asked, do either of you mind if he changes?
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm like, well, Zammat's going on. Like, yeah, about three points. I've got so happy with myself. Also, if you want to watch this film, you can. It's called Heart Condition. Oh, gosh. Do you want to know who it's starring? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:44 You want to have a guess. Nick Cage. Quite famous people. It was in the 1990, 1990, actually. Okay. 9090. Julia Roberts's brother. No, not Eric Roberts.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Um, are we took, yeah, you say. Bob Hopkins. And then Danzel Washington. Oh, wow. What? What? I highly recommend this one, the full insane. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Again, another entry in the Joe Zammert Library of Movies only he's seen that maybe only exist when he's watching them. Now, Jackson, you went for the short vignettes. That was Paul Meller, the question writer. Shit. And that means, Zatman is correct. It is the scarf that has been weaponized. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:15:31 That's so funny. I've seen it sounded so insane that I'm, yeah. Well, it's meant to be good. Like Sherlock Holmes and a psychic. I remember hearing about like there's like, because they do like some weird shit with Jack the Ripper in, in film, I guess. Because there's that one where it's about time travel.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Mm-hmm. They got to go back in time to like find the emo, Jack the book comes back in like, it's like a TV show, yeah? I pretty was a movie. Oh, maybe. Maybe something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 That's so funny, you netted yourself six points by telling me no. But you also, I was then I'm like, what I was going to switch to the scarf. I'm like, say, I'm like, are you sure you want to change? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Shut up, man, I never left me. No, I put a bag on him. That's so funny. But this movie is well. I'm rotten tomatoes
Starting point is 01:16:12 got an 81% approval rating from critics. And Paul writes, I watched this on Tobe the other day. I really liked it as a fantastic cast. Christopher Plummer plays Holmes. James Mason, Donald Sutherland.
Starting point is 01:16:25 What? It does indeed have a weaponized scarf too, basically is a weighted at one end and Sherlock uses it to clomber. people. He says it is both serious and at times fun. I would recommend it.
Starting point is 01:16:37 It sounds right up my alley. Yeah, that sounds great. All right. Final score check in fourth place. Just outside the medals. It is Winter Olympics time at the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:50 That's what else. Terminology. On three points is Adam Carnival. Brons is still a platform finish. You're outside of, you're a podium finish. You might be watching the podium. was an option. In third place,
Starting point is 01:17:06 second the bronze, on five points leading the whole way until the end. It's Jackson Bailey. Embarrassing. Sneaking into the silver medal position on six points as the house, but leapfrogging into the lead
Starting point is 01:17:19 with eight points. It's Joel Zammett. Congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah. You really rags to Rich's story. You really deserved it. You did, though.
Starting point is 01:17:29 You, unlike Jack and I, you forged. Exactly. I never intended to be on a silver platter. I would describe your early leaders to tee on a silver flower. Yeah, dude, absolutely. So that's it.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Where can people find you? You can find us. You go to sandspansradio.com. You can find all the podcasts we do. You find me and Zammett on the podcast, Plumbing the Death Star. Yes. On the podcast, baseless speculation.
Starting point is 01:18:00 you can find it. Yes. If there is a podcast on that website, one of them will be on it. That's pretty much a guarantee. If you like Dungeons and Dragons and Narratives, you can find the three of us on D&D's for nerds. We also do a podcast called Beyond the Map, which is horror narratives.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It's very spooky, very underrated. Please listen to that. And I also do a podcast called Thumb Crams, where I talk about video games. So just go to San Francisco. Radio.com and you'll be fucking fine. Yeah, a bunch of stuff. There's a bunch of good shit there, dude.
Starting point is 01:18:37 So good. So good. So good. So good. Where can we find you though? Yeah. I can find me, Matsude Comedy online. I'm doing Adelaide Fringe and Melbourne Comedy Festival coming up with Srenjai Amana. We're doing like a spit show. Nice. Newish material.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Whoa. A bit of fun. Newish. Newish. I'm like, it's not brand new. I'm not I'm not going to make you sit through that. I have made other people sit through that before now. But if you come to these things, they won't be... It's never making.
Starting point is 01:19:10 It's always a delight. That means a lot. Thanks so much for joining me at your place here. Anytime. Hey, if you're listening and you liked it, why not give us a five-star review, maybe even tell your friends if you think you know anyone who might enjoy this
Starting point is 01:19:29 saw any of the Sandspans' pants shows. And cheers for tuning in to Hounier with Matt's children. Now that you know it, I've been Matt's show it. Goodbye. Oh, I'm not decided. This is a good story. Yeah, me too. No, sorry?
Starting point is 01:19:49 No, I'm just recording. We're recording, so it's a good story. I'm going to hit record, so anyway. Yeah, do you mind have kind of puts it in somewhere? I don't mind. No, no, no at all. So I... That didn't sound right. No, I don't mind.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I am Adam Carnivali, and I have sound mind and body. I'm comfortable with you, including this. as some post script or... You're comfortable with Connor putting it in somewhere. You could put it in instead of an ad. Connor could put it anywhere. This could be like the B movie where every time someone says my name,
Starting point is 01:20:19 it plays this clip. So, I... I haven't seen the B movie in a while. Is that what happens? That's Jerry Tidefield. Mugnumorpus, yeah. I, to demonstrate to a friend that in many ways,
Starting point is 01:20:33 language is on the listener to understand rather than the talker to be understood. I once invented an expression at the checkout with said friend where to tell the I was having trouble getting my bank card out. And I said, oh, I'm so sorry,
Starting point is 01:20:48 I'm all apples and eggs today. And so I have since just started using that. And no one has ever called, it makes sense. It makes sense. Well, it checks out because you know, you don't have apples and eggs together. Yeah. You're an absurd meal. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Or like, I'm like, I'm not paying attention to this person enough. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the server. I'm like, yeah, buddy, sure, please leave. And there's got to be a part of you as well. It's just like, wow, in case this is a common phrase, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not questioning.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah. Because in what mad context is somebody going to say, you know, well, I'm all upstairs downstairs today and you go, you'll what? No one says that. Oh, is that man. I like, yeah, fucking up all the, like you say, oh, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:21:32 That is good. I love those, like, they all spoonerisms or whatever. Allopres and all the ones and just deliberately fucking up, like, you know, any sort of prunciations. Yeah, yeah. Making new words. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Talk fucked up. Yeah. Burn this bridge run it comes. It comes out so it comes out so smooth. It doesn't. It works perfectly. And you're like, yeah, right. Let's do that.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah, okay. You miss 100% of the best shots that you hit me with. Exactly. A mixed metaphor. Or something else. I think that might be a mixed. Because a spoonerism is where you take. It's like, it's more about the word than the, that's like if you're like,
Starting point is 01:22:03 stunning, sorry, cunning stunting stunts. Cunning stunts. That's a spoonerism. It was that. You miss. one of the recent plumings. I didn't even, none of us picked it up,
Starting point is 01:22:10 not even me, but it was like the brightest, there was the brightest flame burns, the brightest. It's something I said. And I'm funny. That's really, I'm not a student.
Starting point is 01:22:23 That's good thing. You got right to the heart of it, didn't it? I think so. What else needs to be said. I always say, the brightest flame burns. Twice as bright or one else.
Starting point is 01:22:32 There's a classic Zowie one of those too, isn't it? Like, don't think. Oh, uh, think hard. Yeah, think harder,
Starting point is 01:22:38 not smarter. Yeah, which is great. And then I guess it was Ralph and Ralph's like, what do you mean? We're like, shut up, Ralph. Think harder, not smart. Think hard. Yeah, you're not to think smart,
Starting point is 01:22:49 you're just going to be such an idiot for. Think harder, idiot. Think harder, not smarter. Do I need to remind any of you how this works? No, I'm not going to record one in months. I'm just, I'm good, dude. You need to remind it for yourself. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I'll do. I mean, I'll explain at the start, I guess, in the way that I do, which is basically wrote when none of it goes in and I imagine a lot of the regular listeners would be the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Yeah. E. E. A. Ah. Uh. Uh. Uh. Caveman vocal warmups.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Caveman vowels. Eh. Uh. Would you think of yourself as preeminent? I would consider myself preeminent. I'm about to be eminent. I wouldn't consider you as amateur. Oh, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:23:37 But you get paid. Well, yeah, but not for cryptozoology. In a way. That's so funny. You get paid for something? In a way. I'm actually a perfect. I love the idea of you just have to get paid for anything.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Yeah. And all your hobbies are pro? Yeah, exactly. Well, how do you become a professional cryptozoologist? You can't, there's no, probably got to go into the field, look for beaten foot. I don't think that. What are you just do that? My friend, you could count yourself a scholar of crypto.
Starting point is 01:24:06 of cryptozoology. So there's no official you can't study it. I believe there used to be a scientific journal, which no longer exists. Scientific journal. Look, my bullshit meter is blaring right now. I've just put a line through amateur. Yeah. Third guess this week is Australia's pre-aminent cryptozoologist Jackson Bailey.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Thank you. Thank you very much. Welcome. It's a pleasure to be on the show. It's so good to have you here. I almost used a question, but I'm like, there's just too much of a chance that Jackson will know this. obscure beasts. I do know the obscure beast.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I didn't end up using it. Can we hear what it was? And we'll find out of Jackson knew it. I'm interested. Test my metal. The thing is on a little bit and I'll probably use it on a future episode. It's funny if I don't know it though. How embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yeah, yeah. What is the common house cat? I thought I knew it, but he said cat weird. I'm going to say dog. What are you answering? What is the response? Let me find it. Cat, I think I'll say,
Starting point is 01:25:15 Dog. Ah, you've beaten me again, Jackson. Deemest. Deemest. Mr. Bond. I raise you. Dog. It's like the world's dumbest.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Mariotti and Sherlock. You may think you have litigants. Yeah. Moriati, but I raise you I understand we keep doing this over and over again just me and you back and forth to the point
Starting point is 01:25:44 where we've already mapped it out in our brains we've all done it, we've moved the chess pieces so just for your final answer let's just cut to the chase dog again got me again so it was wood was
Starting point is 01:25:58 oh yeah I know woodbos British Bigfoot dude yeah yeah yeah of course dude famous on heralds still seen to this day. Oh my lord.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Never heard of it. Yeah, dude. There's even specific instances. God, what's the name? The shock monkey or something? Oh, the black shark monkey. That's fake. I think Woodwo's is proof
Starting point is 01:26:20 that Bigfoot doesn't. I know you can't prove a negative. But I think Woodwows is proof that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Because the UK, that island is pretty inhabited. Well, I believe. There's not a lot of space for an ape to go, to go on notice. As Australia's preeminent
Starting point is 01:26:39 professional critics We shouldn't have given him this power. I will say that I'm fairly sure the Woodwows or Woadwows is actually just represents a man that's gone feral rather than like a mystical ape which I think is really funny because then people
Starting point is 01:26:55 put it on their heralds which is such a funny thing to be like and my house my great noble house represented by a man that went mad in the woods. Like if you're a berserker. Yeah, that's true if you're a big barbarian. We saw a modern day wood woes. When was it?
Starting point is 01:27:12 Way back when, when I was on the UK tour with you guys, and we saw a man going, late night in London. Yeah. Would have been like maybe just past midnight. A man going from person to person grabbing phones and smashing them on the ground. We did see a modern woodwoes. A modern woodwows. Somebody should put him on their harold on their house grass.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. The phone smash and phones. Wow. Lord Eddington of House phone smash. It's a pleasure to meet you. Lada at Woodworth. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:27:44 That was really good. I just discovered a new button on my watch. More than a lot going on. It's a busy episode. God, that's cool. I wonder what that one does. That's the reason. The walls are going to fall away
Starting point is 01:27:58 and it's going to be like a great glass elevator from Willie Walker. We can fly into the scene. I know how good the combo is going when someone in it goes, whoa, I just notice a new button on my watch. I'm just very curious, this watch confuses me a great deal because there's, do you see this number up here?
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yeah. So that, you would assume, now obviously I'm so sorry, the people at home concert, you would assume that's the date. It goes up to 50. It's not the date. That's very mysterious.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I don't know. It's particularly mysterious. I have no idea. what that number is. Is it like a meter thing? Like can go 50 meters underwater or something? Maybe. You should drop one of a ball.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I can make it go up. I press this button and it goes up. And currently right now it... Sometimes. Well, now it's on 16. Maybe it's about to help you count to 50. And that's spinning now. Just for counting.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Just for counting. If you need to count... And that's a bounces on the way. Small venue. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You know, Adam's bamboozled me with his watch. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:03 He's got too many crazy watches. I get the feeling this episode is going to have a long post-credit scene. I feel responsible. Even smarter. Cut it all. I'll leave that to Connor. I don't know how much he does cattle. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I was going to say, oh, listeners should tell us, but. They wouldn't. To them, everything's left in. It's a heady thought. To them, everything's left in. Good. Thank you. I forgot for a second there that so answers can be edited out. I was going to keep talking.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Oh, I go, no, this bit will just get chopped. And, yeah, this is a good show if you know of anyone who likes fun. I mean, this is the show. How's everyone doing tonight? Are you getting birthdays in the house? Yeah, so, so, so. What are you doing? What are you from?
Starting point is 01:30:01 What else? What else? On this podcast, we're going to do some crowd work, if you don't mind. Okay. Hey, so tell me what do you do? What? Where you're from, Vanita? Where are you from? Too amusing to me to try and do crowdwork and just not have an answer.
Starting point is 01:30:18 So where are you from? Michigan. What? Michigan. No way. And where's... What's that like? Where's that?
Starting point is 01:30:27 Would you say that's near? Kind of east coast? And where... What? It took a while to... What the hell? What do you think about this? Crowdwork.
Starting point is 01:30:36 but it's subtly, it's subtle at first, but then becomes growingly obvious to the crowd that the comedian is trying to get a date. Yeah, I think that's really good, dude. I think that's comedy, that's really good. Or crowd work, but it becomes suddenly obvious to the crowd that the comedian's losing their mind. I've got a friend who's writing,
Starting point is 01:30:57 like trying stand up for the first time, and he was like trying out jokes on me. And at one point, as he's like reading out his jokes, He laughs to himself and he's like, I am so funny. And I was like, you got to, between like every joke, you gotta do that. You gotta remark about how funny you are. Something kind of really funny to me of a comedian being like in between jokes, hmm, I am.
Starting point is 01:31:19 You guys are in for a treat. I've written some good ones. This is my best work. Constantly hidden them. Anyway, it was very funny. Sorry, please. No, I'm like, I'm like of that. I might have that.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Yeah, try that out. You can use anything we've said here. anything that's come up you're welcome to it. You're going to say you're of sound mind. Yeah, I'm your sound mind. And Matt Stewart is welcome to use anything I've said
Starting point is 01:31:44 in a stand-up set. At two. Can you smell ants, Matt? I can't smell ants. That's crazy. Is that a specific skill? Yeah, it is. Like if you get close to an ant or you squish an ant.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You don't think so. You don't know. You can smell ants smell. I can smell ants. I can smell it. There's an ant of, there's definitely a smell. Ants smell. Ants am I'm lucky enough to possess the ability to smell ants.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And you guys are evolutionarily, I guess, left behind. Look, I don't know if it's actually a benefit to you, but you do have a uniquely strong sense of taste and smell. I had a coffee earlier today. Not like an hour ago I was having a coffee. And I thought it tasted funny. I'd made it here at the studio. Jackson's like, oh, maybe it's old milk. That seemed insane to me.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I actually, I should say, I discovered that upon tasting your coffee. Sorry. I said the problem is old milk. Not off? Old. And then Jackson, to the day, guessed how far away it was from its expiration day. Yeah. It's a proud moment of mine.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah, it was crazy. I got a milk palate. Bloody hell. Yeah. It does, yeah. apparently it is a genetic quirk to be able to smell ants. Oh, really? You are evolving.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Me and Zameter is the next step evolutionarily. I've always described you as quirky. Human ant smellicus. Amo-antzmelicus or something? Have you guys got the thing where you can smell dishes that have been, that had egg on them and then been washed? It's like a real... I've tested this theory.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yeah. I've got it and it sucks. Yeah. Every cafe you go to the... The water cups and everything smelled gross because... Interesting. A little bit like egg. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah, that is interesting. Damn. I hope I'm not making this up. I mean, I can definitely smell something. Something's going on. Have you ever heard of stinky sneezes? No. Someone sneezes and it smells?
Starting point is 01:33:52 There's like this conspiracy online. Yeah. Where some people will sneeze and then it smells like crap, like Kappa, like do, do. And they are convinced that they have this condition called stinky sneezes and that the medical community is trying to hide it from them. I've had like one or two stinky sneezes in my life.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah. It's like you have either halitosis, tonsil stones. There's like a bad breath of some kind. There is no reason for it to be sneezing. People are stinky, sorry. People are just like every time I sneeze. it stinks. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:31 What I assume is when I have a sneeze that smells, it's that in my sneeze I'm dislauging some like flam or something stinky. Something stinky back there that's coming into the forefront. But it's not a every sneeze. Most of my sneezes are odourless or pleasant smell. Wow. Pleasant smelling fantastic.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Yeah. It's quite sweet. Did Gordon Lightfoot, did he do the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Is that that MF? I'm not sure. The only one of his I know is If you could read my My God
Starting point is 01:35:02 Yeah, yeah Yeah My thoughts would tear Just like an old time A movie We're a different parts of the song It goes two different ways That's a really
Starting point is 01:35:17 That's a really The hero would be you The heroes often fail It's a very dark song and you don't realize that on some, anyway. Well, I think a lot of people maybe around our age is first heard like more of a dance version. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:35:39 And so the original is a very slow sad song. Absolutely. I know that's not true, but I'm going to, using this time to cut and paste that. I know, you're all looking at me like this. We're all like, what? This is a fucking wild. I keep trying to, yeah, because I'm an idiot.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I keep trying to, because I can see myself kind of in my periphery and I keep wanting to be like, is my hair okay? But then when I look over, I can't get it good to my hair. Your jacket is kind of bunched up behind you a little bit. If you pull it down at the back, I might...
Starting point is 01:36:15 I mean, it's fine, but if I could tweak any element of you... If I could tweak you if I could tweak you... If I could tweak your... Tweet your nipples or whatever. You've always been a bit of a tweaker. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:36:31 What a list. Sure. Hasn't been a sure whole episode? Finally a sure came out. You know when you're like, this will do. We'll see what happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You know, at the end too. Sure. Non-circus conditions. Well, you know, if I said like first made you fight out of a cannon, you go, that's notable. Yeah, but I say under non-circust conditions, the imagination sparks in what circumstance. How could it possibly be notable?
Starting point is 01:37:14 Like, what, how did he do that? Surely that's happened prior to circus conditions and prior to it like the late 1880s or so. Do you really believe that someone's been fired out of a canon under not under what circumstances? Execution. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. Punishment. That's an awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Like, hey, we're going to do this to you, your friend. So you've got to tell us what. Yeah, yeah. It's so funny to imagine like someone accused of piracy or whatever. And they're like, choose your form of execution. And you go, the cannon. Assuming you'll be shot with the cannon. What?
Starting point is 01:37:52 No, no, no. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. What would that do to a, I mean, they fire guys out of cannon. So it happened. How do they survive that really? I don't understand. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I'm no canon, Dr. Jack, but I'm fairly certain. It doesn't have to do with the particular, like, I guess, gunpowder that they're using to, to, like, propel you forward in a certain way. That's weirdness getting fired. I guess, you know, you are in essence. I don't get, I don't know how, I'm no doctor canon. I don't know how a cannon works regularly. You know what? I'm assuming, yeah, you put the cannon ball in.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Yeah. You get one of them big, like. you know, those rushes. Yes. It looks like a jimmy sweep. You shove that into the hole. Yeah. And then you light a fuse, which presumably there's a bunch of gunpowder at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:38:40 And then it creates an explosion. And then I guess it's like the launches it forward. And then the force of the air is nowhere to go. And so he goes forward. And isn't it to do with like if it's a, if the cannon isn't like, yeah, doesn't it need to be smooth? It needs to be a bit more like rough so that it can actually like spin. Spin as it goes further.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Interesting. So I guess, you know, you just climb in there. Yeah. Just, you know. I guess any of us could get fired out of a cannon, really. Yeah, really. I would love to, frankly. It looks like fine.
Starting point is 01:39:09 I think I'd have a blast. Yeah. I think it would be really exciting. Hopefully into a net. Yeah. And like, my question would be is that the blast that happens. Because presumably it's to do with gunpowder. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:22 If they don't have enough gunpowder, presumably you don't lose your legs. That's what I'm wondering too. Because ideally it's like, it's like, what's going to hurt you the most is the fall, right? Yeah, the land. You know what, so if I'm landing to a net, it should be fine. Yeah, however, if they've packed it full of a lot of gumpowder,
Starting point is 01:39:37 um, does that mean my legs go into my head? Is there a way that, like, do I have to, like, do I have to curl up like a cannonball to be fired? It feels like, do I need a certain, but do I need a, like, a certain size of the canon, because if it's like a large orifice, say, I don't know if that's the right word to use for a cannon hole, I believe it is. Yes, the canon orifice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Like if it is rather like, you know, small, so it's a tight squeeze to get in there, is that going to hurt me more? Are you going to come out? Because your shoulders have ground against. Because I guess if it is like the push. Yeah. If there's like a larger hole,
Starting point is 01:40:14 that means there's more force going out and therefore it's going to hurt me less. Yeah. Whereas if it's a tight little squeeze, oh no, my shins are now into my hips. Yeah. And I'm bleeding a lot. But I wonder if a smaller hole means you're going to go for,
Starting point is 01:40:30 though? Because like, hey, I don't know. Yeah. And I guess you, you know, in this situation, you might want it smooth because you don't want to spin. No. I don't want to land and then throw up. I feel like Johnny Knoxville has been fired out of a cannon.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Well, yeah, probably. I mean, again, there's like all old Jack, I'll surely have been fired out of a can. But that's because, you know, we know how to do it. Well, that's the thing. Well, there's big cannons, though, right? Yeah. They're not like a cannon.
Starting point is 01:40:54 Because I was scared for a moment, I was like, maybe it's the kind of thing where actually you can't get fired out of a cannon, and that's a liberal myth. Can you get fired? Yeah, because they would design that cannon to fire a guy. You're not using a cannon that fires regular cannon balls to then... This is what came up. Blowing from a gun is a method of execution in which the victim is typically tied to the mouth of a cannon,
Starting point is 01:41:26 which is then fired resulting in death. That's crazy. I don't know why. You're fired out of a cannon. You'll fire... Yeah, I know. It's what I'm saying. They used to do some horrendous shit.
Starting point is 01:41:36 They would like strap you to the cannon, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am so excited to have spent... I apologize for wasting your time. That's okay. With an answer that you will immediately pick it out of the line up. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Well, see. Apparently, when you fight out of a cannon, it's actually a piston. you're not fired out like a cannonball. It's just a big piston that jettisons you into the air. I'm guessing they... I believe the piston is fired, right? I'm guessing there would have been some R&D
Starting point is 01:42:08 and be like, let's put him in, or... Because otherwise you'd just be hit by the force, the shockwave, which isn't really what you want. I think the piston, it's like a block that they put in the cannon and then they fire the piston. And the block goes... The block hits you like a cannonball.
Starting point is 01:42:25 But you're standing on the block. Sure, yeah. Yeah, right? Wait, are we talking about circus or about execution? No, no, no, no, circus. Oh, okay. The impetus. You're standing on it, so it fires the block so that you're...
Starting point is 01:42:37 I think the form of execution works like that as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you can't move. They strap you to the cannon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a, it's a, there's like a platform in there that you're standing on. And they fire them.
Starting point is 01:42:48 They fire, but it goes just to the end of the cannon. Yeah. And then you go shooting out. Yeah. Well, I'll be. Yeah. We're all learning a lot today. He's learning about cannons.
Starting point is 01:42:59 And he's learning about his watch. It's all fun stuff. Exactly. I'm learning about this. Yeah, you're learning what is a bird and what is food. And sometimes it can be the same thing. You know? And cheers for tuning in to Huneer with Matt Stewart.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Now that you know it, I've been Matt Stewart. Goodbye. That's really good. That's like how a big mouth bass might say. Goodbye. And they swims away.

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