Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 179 - Jackson Baly, Joel Zammit and Adam Carnevale
Episode Date: February 16, 2026Who Knew It with Matt Stewart is a comedy game show podcast hosted by Australian comedian Matt Stewart. Episode 178 features comedians Jackson Baly, Joel Zammit and Adam Carnevale!Support the show via... http://patreon.com/dogoonpod and you can submit questions for the show!Check out Matt's new stand up special: https://youtu.be/ZgukEPerWZc?si=SW8PttGAB-ly_GF8And his last stand up special: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhESee the podcast/Matt live: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/Check out Matt's podcast network: https://dogoonpod.com/Theme song by Evan Munro-Smith, Logo by Murray Summerville and edited by Connor Schmidt! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to Who New With Matt Stewart, the show where the guest's right the wrong answers.
I'm the titular Matt Stewart.
And our first guest is the big boss of the Sanspans Media Empire.
It's Joel Zammett.
Oh, hey, how you going?
I'm very confused.
Yes, that's me.
Wait, you forget that this is your empire?
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
Your empire of Oz.
That's so funny, it was going to empire of sand.
This is so much more eloquent.
Yeah, yeah.
I was trying to be like, yeah, it's easy to forget what you don't want to remember.
He's like, oh, yeah, this is my fault.
Yeah, you did this.
This is my fault.
We need a little block.
This is my fault.
Yeah.
Our second guest this week is D&D, Dungeon Master Maestro, Adam Kana Valet.
Hello, nice to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Does Master and Maestro, that maybe means the same thing.
No.
He could be a master maestro.
I'm not sure.
You're making fun.
I wouldn't dream of it.
It's a maestro something to do with music.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
The maestro, yeah.
He's the maestro.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
How do we recognize you smell?
I get it.
M-A-E-S-T-R-O.
Yeah.
He's the maestro.
It feels like it could be like German for master or something.
Yeah, I think there's a chance.
But what does that mean?
He's the master of music?
They'll be absurd.
He's the master of the orchestra?
That would make sense.
It sometimes abbreviated as Moe.
The Big Moe himself.
The Moe of music.
The Moe of music.
He's a bit of a Moe music.
He's a bit of a Moe music, you know.
It's ubiquitous with Italian musical terms.
I completely forgot that.
Every time I'm thinking of Italian musical terms,
I'm thinking my story.
For my story.
Quatro.
Quatro is a musical term, I believe.
Focetto.
Focetto. Castrato.
Castrato.
Mama Mia.
You say that when the music's really good.
Cappuccino.
Auropeggio.
That's one.
Yeah, beautiful.
Oh, my God.
I don't know if that's an archa.
And our third guest this week is
Australia's preeminent, amateur,
Cryptozoologist Jackson Bailey.
Thank you for having me.
All right, so the way the show works is ask a relatively obscure trivia question
and our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer.
I then read their answer as well as the real one,
and I have to guess which one is correct.
And the first question comes from listener,
Kayla Hodquitz from Le Moyne in Maine.
The question is, what does the word anting mean?
While they're writing their answers,
I'll explain to the listeners how the scoring works.
So you get one point if your fake answer is guessed by the other.
contestant and another point if you correctly guessed the answer. By the way, I'm also playing
as the house. I've put it into my own fake answers for each question with the help the question
writer and we get a point for each one of those that are guests choose. So each of us
conscript to three points per round, which seems fair, but the probability actually favours me,
the house. And the house always wins off. If you've listened to previous episodes, you'll know that
is not necessarily the case. To even things out as well, the guests get triple points in the
final round where the house does not.
Anyway, most of our questions come from our
great Patreon supporters. If you want to submit a
question, sign up on any level
via patreon.com slash do-go on pod,
which is linked in the show notes.
Or you just, you know, just search that,
I suppose.
And yeah, if you want, while they're still
running their answer, I can tell you that you can follow
us on Instagram and Facebook,
et cetera, who knew it, pod?
You can see clips and stuff up there
if you like fun. And I know
you do. That's why you're listening to this show.
A show for people
who like fun. All right.
Answering for question number one. The question
being, what does the word anting mean?
Here are your options. An action you can take
in older versions of Texas Hold'em
poker. After everyone else's had
a chance to fold in a round, someone
can double their ante, forcing
every other player to do the same
or fold. That's option one.
Option two, feeling
restless and anxious to the point
you can't sit still.
Option three, the act of birds allowing ants to crawl all over them and eat parasites.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Option four, in poker to put in twice the ante that is required to play the round.
Option five, working together with others to make a job easier, most commonly used referring to friends helping someone move house.
Like ants.
Like ants.
Ants cooperate.
Or finally, a regional form of fly fishing utilizing non-traditional bait, such as ants.
ants, hence the name.
Just piercing an ant.
Throw it in.
I don't catch fish, but I just
hate ants. I just use it to torture ants.
I don't think that one's real, but
the idea of getting like some sort of,
I would assume if you had to do it,
you get some sort of food covered in ants
and then you throw that in.
That's a lot of.
You can get big ants too, I guess.
Wait a second.
If you cut like a bit of bread or whatever,
covered an ant and then you hook that up.
And you see you're throwing the water, the ants are going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd have to pierce the ants.
You've got to pierce the ant.
Don't some types of ants, maybe now I think this is real,
some types of ants like grabbed together to float on water.
That's true.
I have seen that.
They make a bridge, yeah.
The largest living ant species is the giant Amazonian ant
with females reaching up to four centimeters.
But not giant to them.
To them, it's normal.
That's a good point.
We should learn to be more respectful.
To the giant Amazonian ant, that's normal.
You know?
I'm sorry.
You wouldn't call us giant humans.
They might, though.
They might.
They might.
And we'd be right to rebuff that.
Yeah, exactly.
Actually, I'm normal.
What was the second Pokemon?
To put twice the ante that is required to play.
Twice the Ante.
I might go the first one.
Lock it in.
The first Pokemon?
Yeah.
I'm, yeah.
So the first Pokemon was like an old rule in Texas Hold'em.
Where you double the anti.
and everyone else is forced to double the ante.
Yeah.
I like that there's two.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm doing that.
Yeah.
Why am I looking at?
Well, you're doubling.
Mm-hmm.
You're doubling the ant.
Doubling that.
He's anter, number one.
This MF is anting over here.
God damn.
I shall go.
I'm going to go the fishing.
I'm going to go crazy.
I nearly weren't that.
I nearly weren't that.
I'm going to go crazy.
Yeah, I nearly weren't that.
Yeah.
Because I know, I've seen those big floating raft.
I mean, I don't know who use them to fish,
but I've seen those.
Floating rafts of ants.
I hope that's true.
Because I like it when ants dream.
We hate ants.
This guy hates ants.
I am having a war with ants the moment.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, good.
I'm also having a war with ants.
Yeah, it's the ants season then.
Ants love war, though, so it's great for them.
All right.
These are the answers.
Feeling restless and anxious, that was the house.
As was working together with friends or others.
Move that's whatever.
Good answer.
The second poker answer about putting in twice the answer,
that was Zamet.
It's why I'm going with the first one
because I'm like, well,
unless someone did the exact same thing as I did.
What are the odds?
What are the odds?
What are the odds?
What are the odds?
Yeah, exactly.
Mr. Odds over here we call.
Mr. Odds.
What else do we have?
We had,
what else is going on?
Regional form of fly.
fishing. Jackson was
really close to going on for it, but Adam went for it.
Got your ass. That was Jackson, yes.
Gotcha, dude.
That's so funny, because the other one was going to be the second
Pokemon, so I was literally
passing up between the two of you. That's so funny.
Did you like how even after you'd locked in, Jackson
still decided to lie to you?
Just to the phone.
No, I've done the exact same thing. I've done the exact same
thing before. It's part of it. I have
in the past very serious, I think
in the past I've been like, oh, I'll go my
one and then swapped.
Oh, that's a good thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Can we choose
that one answer?
No, you can't choose your own, my friend.
But you can do that.
You can fake it out.
No, right.
I'll give you all the time you need.
But eventually I'll be like,
are you sure you're locking that one in?
Yeah.
Yes, that's the right answer.
Why?
So then we've got
Jackson and Joel.
Um, it both went for the other Pokemon.
That was Adam Carnival.
Oh, my God.
Man, got my ass.
Yeah, got my ass. God damn it.
And that means the correct answer is,
uh,
anting is the act of birds allowing ants to crawl all over them.
That's absurd.
Of course it is.
What do you say?
This bird's the inting right now?
Come on.
I'm anting!
I'm anting!
And there's one,
like,
funnily enough,
I saw a video of it this week.
There's different,
they can either like smush them up,
which you guys would love.
Yeah,
rob them over the same.
I would love that.
Yeah.
But there's another kind,
which I hated the video I saw.
was a bird just getting,
to an ant's nest
and making them crawl all over it.
So it's this bird,
you almost assume it's a dead bird
being eaten by ants.
But it's doing that just to...
Clever.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, and also a snack later on, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clever.
Some do it so that they're...
Yeah, the ants are gross to taste,
apparently.
So them rubbing all over them,
their feathers take the gross taste
and then they're nicer to eat as well.
That's amazing.
Are you making like the bird
is making itself gross to taste?
Yeah, that's what I thought was happening.
Well, yeah, but if something
eats you or bites you, they're going back,
they're like, p'er.
Yeah, it tastes like it.
They've already bitten you.
You're already dead.
Yeah. Well, plenty of frogs work like that.
Plenty of frogs of, you know, poisonous
to eat. That's true. That's true.
That is true. It doesn't help you necessarily,
but maybe it helps your children.
Oh, that's really nice.
That's really nice.
You know, they say the perfect society
is a society where old
frogs, poison
animals their children will
never be by.
Wow.
So poignant.
Here's question number two. This comes
from Aaron Burgess from
South Australia. It could be Aaron Burgess.
Okay.
The question is,
name a species of bird.
Okay. A real one.
Okay. Thank you.
That should specify.
Wait. You come up with it you were.
Wait. So is the objective.
Is the objective we give you real ones
And we have to pick the fake?
No, sorry.
Yeah, I thought I was helping.
We have to write a fake real sounding bird.
Yes.
You're eventually going to try and pick the real one from your fake ones.
Yeah.
And while you're writing your answers,
here's some more info on anting.
Got on a wiki,
Anting is a maintenance behavior during which birds rub insects,
usually ants on their feathers and skin.
A bird may hold a single ant in his beak to rub over the body
or line an area of high,
insect density and wallow as when dust bathing.
Ant secrete chemicals like formic acid to aid their defence against bacteria and parasites.
It has been hypothesized that formic acid may help birds avoid similar ailments by acting as a deterrent.
Alternatively, anting could make the insects edible by removing the distasteful acid or possibly supplement the bird's own preen oil.
Whoa.
More than 200 species of bird are known to participate in this behavior.
behavior.
Big.
Here's a fear of mine
for this question.
You are so quick.
Yeah, well see, I just wrote
a name of a bird.
Oh, what?
Do we need to come up with
just the name?
Yeah, just the name.
That was my assumption,
but that was my fear.
I was like,
maybe Joel and Adam are writing more
and then mine will stand out
because it's not just.
It is just the name.
Just the name.
See, I was going to, you know,
right,
then I was going to write
like a scientific name for it.
And then I went,
no, that will make that stand out.
For my best not.
Also, I could speak Latin.
You don't know exactly.
I don't know either.
All right, the answer for question number two are in.
Here is question number two.
Which of these are real species of bird?
Tasseled tit.
Green-breasted mango.
Red-eyed pelican.
Flombade grouch.
Atlantic crackle or stupid idiot dumbbirds.
Now, stupid, idiot, dumbbird.
We laugh.
It could be.
That's it.
Particularly pissed off scientists.
That's stupid enough for us to mock it,
but then actually it'd be correct.
Or that's Adams.
I reckon Zammett
at your go first this time.
Okay, okay.
So what do we, we have a tit?
Tasseled Tit.
Now, that was not, it's an obvious one.
We were all thinking of like when you name a bird.
Of course.
I mean, I wrote something Tit.
Now I deleted it.
No, I best not.
It's a little hanging fruit.
Perhaps most obvious bird option.
Yeah.
Not going to go with.
Titty. Next one.
They're well, speaking,
low-hanging fruit, green-breasted mango.
Now, green-breasted mango,
okay, okay, okay, why would they
call it? A mango's not a
bird. No, he's right.
No, no.
No, no, no, don't do so.
There's a red-eyed pelican.
A red-eyed pelican. A pelican is a bird, I know that much.
Yes. He's right again.
I don't remember the irises of a bird.
Of the pelican.
But magpies have red eyes.
Yeah, red eyes.
The macbys have red eyes.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so let's, okay, that's a
Maybe.
Flambade grouch.
So a flambade.
Okay, so a burning grouch.
Yeah.
Flombade is an interesting choice.
Atlantic crackle.
That could be, yeah, is either the paliscon of the crackle.
Or a stupid idiot dumb bird.
I love the stupid idiot.
And a bird is a bird.
And a bird is a bird.
But I do think that could be Adams.
That does sound like the answer of someone who's like, this.
No.
This, no.
This, no.
I'm running out of time.
Stupid idiot.
You got to remember.
you two picked Adams from the first round.
I know.
I got me good.
He's playing the game.
So I'm going to go with, um,
uh,
let's go with the crackle.
Crackle.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you think, Adam?
I got a stupid idiot dumb bird.
You got up to the stupid idiot dumb bird.
No,
wait.
Actually, I'm going the crackle.
Okay.
Two crackles.
Hang in a second.
The fact that Adam would nearly choose
with me.
Cacency
trustworthy and legitimate
I too will go
stupid idiot Don Byr
No wait
Wait a second
I'm tempted to go red-eyed
Pelican
I'm so sorry
Can I go the red-eyed pelican
Actually?
Of course you can
Thank you
Tempted to go red-eyed pelican
But I don't
I don't know
How many kinds of pelicans are there
And why would they call it
red-eyed?
but the
caught the last
caught an overnight
slot
yeah
kind of looks
after me in the edit
any any jokes
of bomb get cut
so
yeah
it won't be
so
yeah fair enough
I guess I'll go
the red-eyed
palikin
I'll go the red-eyed palikin
I'm not confident
in it though
one atl
all right
all right
now but that's stupid
dumb
stupid dumb
idiot birds
and Adam
did pick
at that one time
I'm so sorry
can I change it
one more
right
whatever the first one is
tasseled tick
that's the one
okay
interesting yeah
I don't understand
how you're playing
in his game
he's four steps ahead
he's like 40 chess
whatever the first one is
no there were too many
pelicans
I'm gonna go to tasseled tit
there's no is it
too many people
pick the pelican
yeah
Adam's trying to
only one
so now there's
Jackson for the crackle
no
I'm for the crackle
me for the pelican
him for the tip
I'm sorry
I've changed too many times.
It's funny, you changing has got me
with the...
I won't do that again, I apologize.
I apologize.
I was in his mind,
it was funny at first
and I took the joke too far.
You're at eye palikin.
Wait.
Oh my God.
I literally just changed
your name.
I deleted it and wrote it down again
on both of the answers.
We've produced a duplication.
glitched.
Oh, man.
I thought you were fucking with me
when you said that again.
I'm like, no, I just...
No, I didn't.
Oh, no.
Oh, that's so funny.
Okay.
So Joel is the crackle.
Correct.
Jackson is the Pelican.
And Adam is the tit.
Yes.
Okay.
I am a...
But which answer to you?
All right.
Can you put me down as the correct one?
This is there are the answers.
Flombade Grouch was the house.
Yeah.
The stupid idiot.
Dumbud.
that was Adam.
What?
No way.
No way.
He picked it the diabolical genius.
It was a callback.
I was hoping it would double trick you or triple trick you.
Oh no, I've been triple trick.
I've been triple trick.
Now, Tassel Titt, Adam went for that.
That was Aaron the question order, aka the house.
Gotcha.
Good job.
Jackson Bailey went for the red-eyed pellic and that was Zamet.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And Zammott went for the...
the Atlantic crackle.
That was Jackson.
Gotcha.
They brought each other.
It's nice.
Basically nothing happens.
Yeah.
No, no.
You mean, you both got a point on Adam.
Oh,
that's true.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I am a point behind.
And that does mean,
that the correct answer is the green
breasted mango.
Damn it.
Mango is a fruit.
Sambo is not a bird.
It's a bird.
I'm not a bit of it either.
But apparently mangoes are birds.
This is crazy.
Can I say,
so the reason why it's called
the something,
I forget bird, is because I forgot that there are names for birds.
I was just like, that's enough.
How did you do that?
That's almost impressive to forget that this kind of birds.
I'm terrible with proper nouns.
That is what the mango looks like.
That's a freaking homing bun.
Oh, mangoes are green sometimes.
It is known.
On the outsides.
Apparently they are.
Large hummingbirds with slightly curved bills.
They're known as mangoes.
Interesting.
So we go, okay, the evolution is hummingbird mango.
Yeah, okay.
Sure, we go from a hum to a mango.
Sure, bird scientists.
So after two rounds, Zamora the House on one point a piece,
Jackson and Adam on two points a piece.
Nice.
Here is question three.
This comes from Keirah Jacobson, who's a Canadian living in Gisbon in Victoria.
And the question is, what is the name of Canadian musician,
stomp and tom's 1977 album okay
1977 97
okay what's the name
yeah a Canadian musician named stomping tom
well what genre he is
would everyone like to know the genre
I can look it up
stomping tom
country and folk sing a songwriter
that makes sense
country and folk that sounds about right for a stomping tom
you're looking like a guy who might be in
the work of stomping tom right now.
Where we go back?
Bolo ties?
Bolo tie, yeah.
I didn't, I don't
dress like this normally.
Just for special podcasts.
Adam, I see you get your answer in
so I can tell you a bit more about green breasted
of mangoes.
Aaron writes, I was Googling unique bird names
and this one called my eyes. It sounded more like
a fruit than a bird.
Damn it, you're in agreeance there with Aaron.
Yeah, I am. It does sound like a fruit.
Making me want mango.
Yeah, mango is not one mango right now.
Ordebon.org writes,
mangoes are rather large hummingbirds with slightly curved bills
living around forest edges and clearings in tropical lowlands.
This species is widespread in the American tropics
and ranges as far north as northeast in Mexico.
It has stayed north into, straight north into Texas at least 20 times.
Scattered records elsewhere.
As far as Georgia in the east,
And as far in the north as Wisconsin,
which really shows.
That's a pretty, they've gone about.
Yeah, they travel.
That's crazy.
That bird has seen more of the world than I have.
And I assume it's the one bird that's done this.
I believe it is.
It's just one bird.
It's just one bird.
Just one.
Big wings band.
It's funny to say that with the same cadence
where like you're trying to sell someone a system
and you go, it's just three steps.
It's just one bird.
It's just one bird.
It's just one bird.
That simple one, bird.
Oh, the answers are in.
These sound fantastic.
Each of them.
Thank you very much.
I like it.
Yeah, I mean, I probably shouldn't comment on it because I don't want to...
You don't want to give the game away.
All right.
I was going to say answer three.
But that would really fuck it up if I just...
And the answer is.
Oh, no.
All right.
Question three.
What is the name of Canadian musician
Stompin Tom's 1977 album?
Stompin Tom stomps around.
Okay.
Option one, option two.
Dog gone, stompin Tom sad.
Option three, the self-titled album.
Okay.
Option four, Stompin Tom at the Gumboot cloggeroo.
Okay.
Option four, my raisins are wrinkled.
Or finally, yet even more stomping
with stomping tom
okay
Adam what are we thinking
I'm wondering
so the word gum boot
because the stomp and Tom is Canadian
is that correct
I'm wondering if gumboot is a term
used in Canada
or if they have it
I wouldn't right yeah
because think we
what do they call them in the UK
Wellington? Wellington's
Galoshes
what do they call them in the US?
Maybe that's galoshes, is it?
I have no idea.
I assume it would not be...
Do we call them gumboos because they were made from gum trees?
I don't know.
I don't know.
The sap from a gum tree?
I think doesn't...
Didn't we originally make rubber from the sap of gum trees?
And that's maybe why we call them gumboats?
Yeah.
That would make sense.
Yeah, I would assume, yeah, you're right.
That was why, like, yeah, I don't think it's that one because of the strength.
And then there was a couple other...
There was something...
What's the one with raisin in it?
What are that one?
My raisins are wrinkled.
My raisins are rankled.
Is raisin a regional term?
I don't know.
Great quote.
What else we call on it?
Now, when we're like...
I don't know.
Now would raisins...
This is this going to sound crazy?
When were raisins in vogue?
But like, you know, but we used to have like ads for raisins?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Raisins were popular.
That's what I mean.
But I always say raisins were like a 90s thing.
Yeah.
And the one was like, like, dog sad.
Yeah.
That seems like if a caveman.
Yeah.
Can you give me the last two again?
Sure can.
I remember being a little compelled by them.
My raisins are wrinkled.
And yet even more stompin with stomp and tom.
Even more stomping.
And then it was self-titled.
And then there was the, what was the first one?
Stompon Tom stomps around.
Stumpin' Tom's around.
Yeah.
Then there was a gum boot one.
And doggone stomping Tom said.
Doggone com.
I'm going to go.
Because I've spent too long on this.
I'm going to go,
sorry, what was the last one again?
Yet even more stomping.
I'm going to go yet even more stomping with stomp and Tom.
Great stuff.
Okay.
Can you give me the one at the something saloon?
What's that one?
Stompon.
Stom and Tom at the Gumboot cloggeroo?
I think that's the closest to what you've described.
Yeah.
At the Gumboot Cloggeroo.
I'm going to pick that one.
I think maybe that's crazy,
but I'm going to go out on a ledge,
and I'm going to pick,
I'm going to pick the gumboot club room.
I'm going to get Adam some points.
I'm going to have a dog one.
Okay.
It does scream out of him, isn't it?
It reeks of it.
It was very unfair of you to accurately call me out in the last question.
All right, all locked in.
Yeah, why don't?
Here's who wrote the answers.
The self-titled album, that was Adam.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
my God.
No.
Clever strategy.
My raisins are wrinkled was Keira.
Okay.
The house, the question writer.
Stomp and Tom stomped around, which feels so real to me.
I can't believe I'm saying this.
That was made up by Zamet.
Whoa.
No one even looked at it.
Yeah.
No one looked at a time.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yet even more stomping with stomping Tom.
Adam went for that.
That was Jackson.
Yet even more stomp.
That really feels like the natural follow-up to Zammett's one.
That's what I was imagining
in my world he'd really like
stomping around with stomper tom
still more stomping
yet even more stomping
this guy can't stop
yeah
stompy
yeah Zama went for doggone stompin'
Tom said that was the house I'm afraid
So there was no greater compliment than them thinking
that you'd written that one
Adam kind of all right
It was good
And that means Jackson is correct it is stomp and Tom
Tom at the gumboot cloggeroo
That's crazy.
I guess they do use the word gumboot.
Yeah.
What I was thinking is I was like, maybe we're thinking about it wrong.
Instead of gum boot like a Wellington, it's just like a...
It's like a boot from gum or whatever.
You know, you know, they say, buy gum, you know?
Like a gum is just like...
By gum, boot.
Boot.
Boot I need.
No one has ever been...
No one has ever sounded more stupid when being correct.
Really.
Gum is just like a thing you say.
Like a gum shoe?
Like a gum shoe?
Yeah, like a gum shoe.
But if like you felt well I'm a bit better than a gum shoe.
I'm a gum boot.
Yeah.
It does seem like well.
You're going to your gum boot.
Wellington's might have been the original term.
Wellies or Wellington's.
Yeah.
Named after the Duke of Wellington.
And then in countries like South Africa, Australia, New Zealand,
they're often called gumboots.
This name originates from the
gum rubber used to manufacture the boots,
emphasizing their waterproof and durable quality.
So it is.
It doesn't look like,
and it looks like in America,
or in Canada they obviously use the term gumboots,
but it looks like in America,
on one source here,
it says,
no one uses them.
It doesn't say goloshes,
rain boots,
rubber boots,
and slush boots.
Slush boots.
I'm finding the lyrics to go.
Gumboot cloggeroo.
Tonight I'm due to bushwhack Sue and take her to the gumboot cloggeroo.
And we'll do a little gomboot clogging.
Oh, clogging.
Do a little gumboot cloggeroo, of course.
I thought a cloggeroo was a comment on the, like, the poor quality of toilets.
Yeah.
I'm picturing the cloggeroo being like, all they, just a wall of.
Yeah, yeah, it's cloth.
Yeah.
And I'm like, this.
I'm like, it's a comedy song
I guess I'll go see Stomp and Tom
It makes way more sense.
He loves clog shitters.
Yeah, I really like the way in this song
They've spelled bowl,
obviously like a bowl of soup
Or in this case, clam chowder.
Is it B-O-O-L-E or something?
No, it's because he's singing it,
but it's B-O-E-E-E-E-D-O-E-E-D-O.
Because he's saying a bo-e-o.
Stew and a bo-e-o-e-o.
of clam chowder.
Do country singers from Canada
still sing with that southern twang?
I'm sure they must, some
equivalent, surely. There are Australian
ones if we do.
But you can tell with
the Australian country, you can tell,
you can still hear the Aussie accent.
I think through it. Probably you can't be
the Canadian. I would imagine.
Yeah.
I think, yeah.
Surely. I would guess.
There's probably slightly more talk singing
than maybe classic pop.
music.
Yeah,
for sure.
The accents all sort of smooth,
the accents all
sort of smooth
out a bit.
Yeah.
As opposed to
like pop punk
where,
uh,
yes.
The Australians who do that
Californian sort of voice
always felt a bit funny.
Yeah,
that is a lot of you.
I see where you influence.
Yeah,
I guess,
but,
uh,
come on guys.
Um,
all right.
Have I told you,
I've told you the real answer.
Yeah.
I've lost myself down to the clockeroo.
Yeah.
To come to a man.
Gumboo cloggeroo.
Gungboo cloggeroo.
I'm there, brother, I'm there.
So the house got a point there from Zammett.
Jackson got a point from Adam.
And Jackson also got the point for getting the correct answer.
I'm going to crazy.
Yeah.
So halfway mark, the scores.
It's heating up here.
Yeah.
Zammot on one.
Adam in the house on two, but now out in front.
On four points, it's Jackson.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The king returns.
Return of the king.
Right?
Question four.
comes from Jim Bates from Sacketts Harbour in New York.
And the question is, what is the name of the linebacker
who played for the LSU Tigers, Cleveland Browns,
and New England Patriots in the 2010s?
It doesn't really matter.
It's just a footballer with an interesting name.
Okay.
Okay.
American footballer, linebacker, which is a position.
Can't be more specific than that.
He's at the back line.
Well, you're writing your answers.
Here's a little more info about stomping tone.
According to Kira, Stompin' Tom was a Canadian singer-songwriter.
His character was rough but genuine, as the National Post noted, his persona wasn't shtick.
Stomp and Tomp and Tom was one of the great Canadian storytellers and a uniquely collegial one as well.
The proper venue for a Gordon Lightfoot performance is a concert hall where the audience connects silently and contemplatively.
The proper venue for Stompon Tom, on the other hand, was a smoky bar room where people connected.
by slamming their beer mugs together.
Oh, yeah.
Hopefully obliterating whatever differences existed between them.
That's beautiful.
Here's you something, Tom.
I really like...
That's beautiful stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I really like that.
Hey, while you're still writing your answer,
let's go for a quick break.
All right, we're back.
The answer in.
Here is question number four.
What is the name of the linebacker who played
for various teams, including the LSU Tigers,
Cleveland Browns and New England Patriots in the 2010s?
Here are your options.
Franklin A. Runner.
Okay.
Lench peanut butter
Hendrickson.
Panned sauerkraut.
Barquevious Mingo.
Alanus Morissette.
Or Hingel McRingalberry.
It's a bit...
I kind of knew this going in,
but it is a bit like that Key and Peele sketch.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
The problem is none of them...
Well, sometimes you get one that's so absurd
you can immediately eliminate it.
Yeah. But with something like this, I mean, what's the Hingle McDi-Dinglebury?
Probably Henrik Sourcrowd is not a linebacker.
Right? I don't know.
But is Hans Sourcrow.
Yeah, I'm like Han Sourcrow.
Like surely, but then again, I guess it is notable.
Yeah.
Their name is Hans.
You'd bring it up.
But Sourcrowd, does anybody's real surname Sourcrow?
Can you give me the first names of each one?
Not the last names?
Just the first names because I need to know them in like, you know what I mean?
first.
Franklin?
Franklin's a name.
Lynch.
I don't know if that's a name.
Lynch.
Lange Hans is a name.
Barcavius.
That can't be a name.
Alanus.
That's a name.
Engel.
That can't pick your name.
That's one for one.
I think you've got the right idea, but you're coming at it from the wrong direction.
Because first names, you can just make up a first name.
You can just make up a first name.
You can just take something random.
Yeah.
You could be crackled.
The number of, you know, like,
freaking famous people who are calling the kids
Apple and stuff like that.
But a surname comes with history.
Can we get the surname?
Just a surname. Just a surname.
Rana.
Okay. That could be possible.
Hendrickson.
That's a name.
Pretty normal.
Sourcrow.
That's not.
I don't know.
That's food.
Hard dissection.
Mingo.
No, I don't know.
Morissette.
That's a name.
That's a name. We know that's a name.
McRingalberry.
No.
Seems unlikely.
That seems so unlikely.
The ones I'm tossing up between and it's insane is Alanis Morissette.
Because that would be like notable, but it's not absurd.
If there was a lineback whose name just happened to also be Alonis Morissette.
And what was the one that name started like bechievous?
Barquevius Mingo.
Barquevius Mingo.
I might lock in Barquevius Mingo.
I like the, Becivius Mingo.
The last one, which was not a name.
or whatever.
It seems silly.
But then the runner one,
because it's a line,
what's a linebacker do?
A linebacker does running,
I'm fairly sure.
I'll do a bit of running.
American football is a lot of running
back and forth across the field.
Yeah.
So I'm like,
the runner,
maybe that's notable.
Yeah.
Because you're like,
well,
he's running.
And he's a runner.
He's a running.
Isn't notable enough
for someone to ride into the,
that's what I'm thinking,
which is like,
well,
I don't know,
a linebacker is at the running
position in that team.
I don't know.
I think it's,
The linebacker, not the one, yes.
That's the one where they're standing behind.
They throw to them.
And then that person does like the goal around.
The quarterback, they're the thrower guy.
Yeah.
And they throw it to the linebacker, I think.
This is, I have, I feel more like that SpongeBob meme where he's a big nerd.
Yeah.
Look at me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I give you this advice.
You look like you could be staying on the sideline coach.
Yeah, you look at your coach right now.
You do.
Close your eyes and remember what I normally.
I know, I know.
Hey, I have seen Friday Night Lights,
but that's the extent of my knowledge.
I know what a coach is.
That's pretty universal.
That's pretty useful.
That's not even a sport.
I'm not a coach.
I'm pretty sure a quarterback, he's the one who throw?
Yeah.
You're bird Reynolds in the whole nine yards.
Yeah, absolutely.
I believe the linebacker then gets the ball
and then the idea is, yeah, they try to get around the line.
Okay.
So run up, but it's like, I mean, yeah,
notable.
That is notable, but then
like the McRingleberry or whatever is
very stupid and funny.
Mingor.
Peanut butter Hendrickson or...
I'm going to go with Hans.
I'm going to go with Hans sourout.
I was kind of thinking Hans
Sommackrant.
Yeah, Lynch
peanut butter Hendrickson.
Yeah.
There's a great mix of things in there.
Taking some of the best of all the others.
A real surname.
A food.
Yeah.
And a weird first note.
Yeah.
It's kind of got a bit of everything.
It does.
Smorgas bored, really.
Oh, that would have been a good fake name.
Oh, yeah.
Smorgers board.
Because peanut butter, I'm like, oh, that's their nickname.
Board, if it's not.
What if their name is peanut butter?
There are no rules, apparently.
There are rules in the name.
Whatever you want.
There's a list in Australia of men.
It's a linchpin.
It's not allowed to use.
Yes.
There's like a lot of countries have that.
It's just like you can't.
I don't know if peanut butter is on it.
Yeah, don't think it is.
I wonder what happens if you go from a country,
if you emigrate from a country with a looser naming convention.
Don't.
to another country with a tighter naming
It's so funny to imagine to be...
That's on your passport, though.
So you have to...
But it's so funny, you go your passport,
and they look down and they go,
Grambus, and you go, yeah, Grambus.
And they go, oh, you're just going to step aside.
You can't change your name.
Yes, my legal name is fuck-f.
Sorry, are we allowed to swale?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're a little bit too, and it's up to
what he does.
Oh, exactly.
But I think he just,
he normally just tells me,
if he thinks the episode is child friendly enough.
There's like a,
either either he or no way,
by somewhat he believes.
Yeah.
I don't know what his sort of.
What his margin is.
I hope, Connor,
you do some sort of edit where I do not really appear in this episode.
And people are confused why I'm sitting here next to Joel.
Never gives an answer.
Never give an answer.
Yeah, let's look at like Hans.
Why not?
Okay, how that's that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's, so I really liked Alonis Morissette,
but I'm not a big, I'm not, I can't get into it completely because I genuinely don't know.
Is Alonis a gendered name?
Probably yes.
I don't know, but also.
Lench a name.
Yeah.
But I think Alonis is not a gendered name, but I think that matters less and less.
the, you know, like
it is 2026.
Exactly.
But yeah.
The ones that once would Jen did.
Daryl is very much
these days a very masculine name.
It used to be.
The reverse.
Can you give me the list of names again?
Frank?
Can you cut out the ones they've already picked?
I don't want,
I don't want someone else.
I don't want someone else's
sloppy names.
Okay.
Okay.
Franklin Aerunner,
Lynch Peanut Butter Hendrickson,
Alanus Morissette
or Hingled,
Kringlemer.
Give me Hingle.
Lock in Hingle.
Woking Hingle.
Hingles looked in.
Here's the road of the answers.
Franklin A. Rana, that was Adam.
Okay.
Yeah.
For the American football fans,
really frustrated with Adam's description of a longbacker.
He was blagin.
He was blagin.
Who's blagging his wife?
He was on the blacking wagon wagon.
Yeah.
He was a blacking.
The lawnbacker's like a defensive player.
I have no idea.
A longbacker.
I don't know.
I think you might have been talking more about a wide receiver.
Sure.
Great, man.
I thought it was great blagin.
Yeah.
I was flamed by the side of the sand of my hands.
Or were you talking about a running back?
Maybe.
He could have been.
I know they do 78, 62, 5.
And then they throw the ball backwards.
What do you imagine those numbers refer to?
I think a play or the numbers on the back of the gym?
Is it like a code?
Yeah.
They've been a curious.
Candidating their own team
Is it maybe something to do with like
The plays they have?
Maybe.
No, that's got a bit of jury candidate
Because I love the idea of watching your guys run forward
And then one runs into the crowd
To kill the price to do it or something.
You go, oh, he said the code wrong.
That was like the,
but one of the naked guns had that as a baseballer
Yeah,
and picked up the plate
And there was a gun underneath.
They just sort of walk in like a robot towards the queen.
That was actually Queen was in a second?
That's right.
That's good stuff.
That is great funny.
Good on them.
Okay.
So what have I said?
Yes, Adam did Franklin A Runner.
Jackson did Lench Peanut Butter Hendrickson.
Yeah.
It was nicknamed in inverted commas.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't hear that, unfortunately.
Lynch.
And it would have been, yeah.
Yeah.
I felt like I would have been given you away if I said.
No, of course.
Of course.
I thought Lench would have given me away, honestly.
I thought Lynch is a great name.
I was actually thinking Dingleberry was you
Because you've used that name in D&D before.
Oh, there you go, I see.
Well, he might have used Dingleberry,
but he didn't use Hingle McRingleberry,
which Adam went for,
but that wasn't, I'm afraid,
Jim, the question not, okay, the house.
You're almost going to go for Alainas Morissette.
And, I mean, I'm looking at it,
and you're asking if it's a gender name.
The name is Alan is.
Do you think about it?
Oh, yeah, that's true.
What does that mean?
Oh, my God.
But I feel like it's a clue.
Yeah.
Put it on the cork board.
It's a clue.
And that was Joel Zammett.
Yeah.
Both of you were like, oh,
you were so close.
The flippers.
A lot of flippers.
Here I am going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Choose it.
Go on.
Do you think that's a good answer?
Zama went for hands.
I'm afraid that was the hell.
What?
No way.
You're idiot.
That's food.
Didn't you know?
And that means Jackson is correct.
It is Barquevius Mingo.
Oh my God.
Birth certificate, real name.
That rocks.
I didn't know if I should mention this,
but Barquevius is actually a very old,
like Mediterranean name.
It kind of sounded like an old name.
And then Mingo,
was that the other one?
Yeah.
I was like, I don't know all the surnames.
But I know all the foods.
I don't know all the surnames.
Yeah, I don't know all the surnames.
Wow, what a line.
That's really interesting because, yeah, apparently the mom made the name up.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, she just happened to.
Well, maybe the spelling's different.
That's cool.
All right.
So, geez, that was a big round for the house there.
Yeah.
Jackson is from Zammett and Kanavelay.
Yeah.
But Bailey, Jackson B. Bailey.
Jackson B. Bailey is, yeah, still leading.
Zammots on one.
Adam Kanavalet on two houses up on four points now.
but Jackson's still out in front.
Five.
Damn.
Someone called the cops to get Jackson off the play, the field of play.
Is he's on a hot streak?
Thanks a lot.
Where's this going?
Where's he going with?
Why, the police?
This doesn't, he's definitely fucked it off.
This doesn't seem like a police matter.
It works better if I say security.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's true.
On a hot streak.
like a and the
like
you know what actually
is running naked
through the
is that you're saying
the street
is like him running naked
yeah like running naked
on the field
yeah
that makes sense
you know what
I retract
thank you for
understand
that I'm explaining
I didn't realize
people hadn't got it
yeah
I retract my statement
I just kind of assume
everyone's on my level
yeah
get on it
if you're not
get up here
without him
or the penultimate
question here
okay
Come. Two people sent this in separately.
What the heck?
Rachel Johnson from Melbourne and Jason Westner from Chester Springs, Pennsylvania.
Cool.
Send him the question.
Charles Old Hoss, that's his nickname.
Radburn, which is such a great surname.
Yeah.
Charles Old Hoss Radbourne was an American professional baseball player from 1880 to 1891.
What non-baseball act is he also known for?
He's sort of known for another thing,
like a non-baseball thing that he was like,
this is his history remembers him.
While you're writing your answers,
here's some more info about Barcaevious.
According to Jim.
According to Jim.
That's a bit of fun.
Okay.
Oh, that's really good.
Got a Jim,
the question writer,
which I think was the full name of that sitcom.
Barcaveas won a Super Bowl with the Patriots in 2017.
And Mingo is the son of Hugh.
Mingo and Barbara Johnson, his unusual name, first name was created by his mother,
adding the first three letters of her first name to a name she liked, which was Kivius.
Of course.
And he has two brothers, Hugh and Hugh Tavius.
Whoa.
Who have a similar name and convention after their father.
Hugh Mingo is what I would name if I was a mad scientist and I was making Flamingo man.
Oh, he would say, oh.
It's a Hugh mingo, you know.
Oh, what about a green breasted mingo?
Oh, now that's good.
Sounds delicious.
Sounds underripe, you know?
Yeah, it does.
I really?
I think, I think Barcavious works.
Yeah.
I don't know if Hugh Tavius does as well.
Especially when your brother's Hugh.
Yeah.
Because if it's like I don't know, I feel like one of them is going to feel superior, but I don't know which one.
Yeah, that's so true.
If I'm Hugh Tavius, I'm like, yeah, your name's half of my name.
Garbage where I'd be like, yeah, I'm Hugh and you're Huteavius.
My name's a name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is true.
Yeah. So I don't know.
Somehow it feels like if you name one of your kids like, like, I don't know, Johnson,
and then the other kid, Johnsoner.
Yeah.
Not John and Johnson.
No, Johnson and Johnson.
Yeah, like Hugh and Tavius.
John, Johnson and John.
Johnsoner and Johnson.
The other one somehow.
I am Johnsonist.
It doesn't work if you're not standing next to your siblings.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It's good to have names that only work when you're next to your sibling.
All right, the answer in.
Question number five, Charles Old Hoss Radbourne was an American professional baseball player in the 1880s.
What else is he known for?
Here are your options.
He was the man who killed John Wilkes Booth.
Hmm.
He was the first person to be photographed giving the finger.
Okay, okay.
He was the first man to get fired out of a cannon under non-circust conditions.
Feels like the opposite of like a sterile mud environment.
We've tested this in both circus and non-circic conditions.
He was the first man to circumnavigate the world on a bicycle.
He traveled to and from his day job by hugging the leg of his pet elephant.
Or, finally, hog chasing.
Hog chasing, full stop?
Ah, no full stop.
Okay, hog chasing loose.
I'm less into it now.
God damn.
Okay.
Hog chasing, he was well known for hog chasing in his day.
Yeah, that's a good way.
If you say he was well known for X in his day, conversationally, see what feels right in the mouth.
He was well known for being the only man.
Okay, so the guy who killed JFK's killer.
Yeah.
No, Lincoln's killer.
Lincoln's killer.
Yeah.
So, yeah, Lincoln's killer.
I think now, was this the guy that also castrated himself?
Oh.
I don't think so.
That might have been, what's the guy who, what's assassin am I thinking of?
The guy who castrated himself was pretty sure he was part of the party that got John Wilkes' book.
No, I think it is him.
I think, yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah.
I think the guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did a full do-go-on podcast episode about John Wilkes Booth.
Yeah.
You didn't call him.
It's so funny if that is true.
And I either talked about and don't remember or left out what is undoubtedly an interesting fact about this guy.
Yeah, the guy that got John Mooghbub, I'm pretty sure.
That's a lot because I might find the answer.
Yeah, kidney stones and basically got a knife and...
Chucked it up the Gucci.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cut his own Gucci open.
Yeah.
and did some squats to get rid of it.
Yeah.
Do you remember?
But do I remember his name?
What I want to know, though, is does the timeline?
Yeah, does the timeline work as well?
Because also, I'm like, that does seem like, you know, yeah, an answer one of us might have put.
Yeah.
Because when was Lincoln president?
1800s?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Civil war.
Civil war, the end of slavery.
It ends, I don't know the exact year.
Late 1860.
I believe. I believe that would work maybe.
So yeah, I'm pretty sure like the person that had, who did,
well, one of the pilot did kill John Wilkesburg, was fairly like famous for other stuff.
He was like a mountaineering kind of man, like a frontiersman.
Yeah, okay.
Kind of be crazy. I don't know if he played baseball.
No, no.
Hugging an elephant, I don't know if elephants, I mean, look, things are pretty loose back in the day.
You could do whatever you want it.
You could own anything, really.
But importing an elephant.
I don't.
It is kind of a terrible way to pilot an elephant.
Yeah, it's not how I would do it.
So I'm navigating the world in a bicycle.
I don't know if that's even possible.
Yeah.
I think there's...
Do you count it if it's boats over the oceans?
If you say on the bike on the boat, it counts.
Yeah, yeah.
You're cycling around.
You're an exercise bike.
No, I don't know that counts.
In fact, if that is true and he did do it that way, I'm calling bullshit.
So you don't think it counts.
I'm going from, Sam going from the tip of Australia, tip of Queensland, North Queensland
to like Indonesia.
Yeah.
And I ride my bike off the tip onto a boat.
And then for the entire journey, I'm circling.
That's fucked off.
There's a guy.
There's a guy who's like, I'm basically walking around like the world or whatever,
only by foot.
And he had to like, you know, swim across like, you know, like, you know,
like icebergs and kind of jump between or whatever.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, the hardest part I think was getting detained in Russia.
But like, yeah.
So you're like taking a boat at all is cheating?
Yeah.
That's crazy to mind.
You're not biking.
You're taking a boat.
No.
That's like getting a treadmill and being like, I walk the world.
No, you're a treadmill.
If you're on a treadmill and people carry the treadmill around the world,
they did so much better job than you did.
You accept, you would accept, if I would a bike around the world,
you would accept to stay on land if I had to go up to the North Pole or something like that
and then come back down so that I would be on.
land the entire time on my bike.
That is acceptable.
I reckon yeah.
So if I, just on the North Pole, did a little that.
Would you say that was going around the world?
A little stinker's version.
I'm just trying to, that doesn't seem logical to me.
To please, I think if you were going to bike around the world, you, what about this?
Once I reach the ocean, I exchange my traditional bike for like one of those bikes, like a paddle boat bike.
Like a paddle boat bike.
Yeah.
That's a hundred percent count.
I agree.
I don't know if you could do that.
that, but that would be entertaining to find out.
I think Hamish and he tried nearly die.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
From memory.
So I think I can there rule out.
The ocean's very big and waves get very big.
And you'll get very tired.
So I think, yeah, I don't think he did the bike thing.
I thought half these, every time I'm on the show,
like that can't be the right answer.
And then it's the right answer.
Well, I think the bike thing is, it could have happened.
You just wouldn't count it.
I would not count it.
I would, I would refuse it.
Do you wear a boat?
Do you have any sort of mechanistic?
on this show, may I ask,
do you have any sort of mechanism for
if a contestant does not count
what your answer?
Yeah, but contestant wants to contest the answer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I believe this is what he's known for,
but I don't think he should be.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, so, what are the other thing?
So, God.
Killed John Wiltspooth,
photographed, given the finger, first person to do that.
Okay, matter maybe.
When was the finger invented?
Oh, great question.
I don't know.
People always love to quote that English
longbow fact or whatever.
I don't know if that's actually true,
but I think
I think it is quite old.
So, no, like, in baseball,
like the high five is apparently, like,
that's, like, the 70s, right?
But this is the whole thing about, like, that work.
But this is the photographed as well.
And he died in 1930 something?
Well, we just know he played baseball
from 1880 to 80, 91.
Okay. So there would be, like,
yeah, early photographs happening around that time.
Oh, yeah.
Not a lot like
Okay, okay
What's the next one?
You got the bike, you got fight out of a
Cannon under non-circust conditions
You got
Traveled by Elephant Leg
Or hog chasing
Maybe hog chasing
So you're thinking hog chasing
A full stop
No full stop
You're thinking photograph given the figure
Hog chasin and the man
Who killed John Wills
Yeah, those are three
I'm those are my options
That I'm thinking about
Because the others seem pretty ridiculous
They're all ridiculous.
I'm going to go with finger.
Finger.
Finger.
Interesting.
Finger for Zamet.
What do you think you know?
I'm going to go.
He's going into his mind palace.
Oh, yes.
He's thinking about biking around the world.
He counts.
Talk people through what you're saying.
What was what I'm seeing right now, Adam, go into your mind palace.
I'm going to describe it to people.
Okay, so firstly, I've got to say what I'm hearing, which is faint classical music.
As Adam explores the vast palace.
he's built in his mind.
But he might access any information
that he's ever received
in his life. He wonders, his fingers
rub again. He looks like
he's in a lot of me. Something bad is
happening in the palace. Samut, get him out.
The house is crumbling.
It's a crumpling. It's a marble.
Put me down for bacon around the world, please.
Back and around the world.
Baking around the world.
I think I'm going to go, and I'm really
not confident in it because I don't know if the
timeline works, but I might go
John Wilkes Booth?
I really wanted to say
Hog Jason.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The time.
I don't know.
It's hard to say
but I'm going to go.
Yeah.
All right.
The answers.
Traveled to him
from his day job
on the leg of an elephant.
That was the house.
Okay.
Okay.
Uh,
hog chasing.
Yeah.
That was Zamet.
It's good.
It's good answer.
It's so much.
Get a full stop.
Drop the jury.
Every other answer was written out really eloquently.
And then I'm like,
oh,
fuck,
too.
No,
hog Jason.
God.
That nearly tricked me
because it wasn't so eloquent.
I was like, maybe what's funny about it
is just that it was hog chasing.
I was thinking, when I heard hog chasing,
I was thinking, oh, like,
what it occurred to me in that moment
was writing something that wasn't that big a deal.
He was just like, when they say,
oh, he was known for this,
just like among his friends.
Yeah, it doesn't have to have to be.
But he's also like a gun baseball player.
He's hogs.
He's also chest and hogs.
He's also, just and hogs.
If he was a modern day sports person,
that's what he did.
I went 100% behind.
I was thinking about that.
I forget the baseball guy, the name of him,
but he was just known for chasing fire, like, fire,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rube Goldberg.
Inverald.
The Rube.
Yeah, yeah.
Love that guy.
Anyway.
Who else do we have?
We had first band to be fired out of a cannon under non-circus conditions.
That was Jackson Bailey.
Yeah, figured as much.
Far enough ahead, I could do a joke one.
Uh, first man to say,
navigate the world on a bike.
Oh, too early to hear.
That was Rachel.
Okay, the question right.
Okay, the house.
Man, I love giving it to the person
who wrote the question.
I love them.
That's your favorite thing in the world.
Jackson Bailey went for the man
who killed John Wilkes Booth.
That was Adam Carnival.
Oh, I did.
As I was writing it,
as I was writing it,
I was like, as if they're going to do the time line.
Oh, damn.
Turned out to be Mr. Knows the killer of John Wilson.
Didn't know the guy's name.
He knew about his gooch situation.
It's so funny to know someone's gooch situation, but not their name.
His name is Boston Corbett.
Apparently, a friend recounted Corbett telling them that, quote,
The Lord directed him in a vision or in some way to castrate himself,
which he did with a pair of scissors.
He then had a meal, attended a prayer.
meeting and then
someone was sent
to get medical treatment.
Yeah.
It was like, hey, great player.
Your balls are drool.
You're sitting in a puddle right now.
This is a good way to do it though.
And that would have been like with a knife.
With a knife, it's hard to do it yourself.
No, you want to do it?
The Romans did.
We just get a big rock.
I was going to say a big cleaver.
What are you just a rock?
Yeah, so I think it was a way to make
Castro back to day.
You place the balls on a rock,
then you get another rock,
you just crush them.
Okay, that makes sense.
And then they wither and drop off.
But I think you need a second person for that.
You need a second person for that.
You do it like a sheep's tail.
Oh, you dock yourself.
Yeah, that's smart.
Your balls on a rock,
then you pick up the rock and you drop the rock from a high.
Yeah.
I don't see that as being easy.
Cissors I can do on my own.
I don't know.
Cizzes is just one and bang.
No, it's not.
Because the rock you drop and it's too late.
It's gravity.
Cissors, you nick it little.
be like maybe this is a mistake.
You could do the exact same.
No, you just...
No.
Dexas, what are you talking about?
Rocks, I'm awful rock.
Rock's the word of category.
This is how rock work on gravity.
No.
No. Rock beat scissors at us.
No.
No, rock beat scissors out of.
Next you're going to say paper.
Paper cut your balls off.
You're insane.
Two of you were insane and I hate you.
God.
So the correct answer.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So the correct answer was he was the first person to be photographed giving the finger.
God damn.
My deduction makes sense.
I knew talking shit about the bike would have been there.
You really worked your way through very honestly there.
So going to the final round, which is worth triple points.
The scores are now, Zamin on two points,
Adam on three points, but out in front on five points of pieces,
Jackson and the house.
Ooh, baby.
Someone called a fire engine because Jackson's on a hot street.
Whoa, that's really good.
Damn, man, that's quick, dude.
That's rude.
He's really good stuff.
So it is triple points final round.
Still truly anyone's game.
And the final question, we always finish with a movie synopsis.
Remember, triple points, you could, if you nail this round, you get nine points and easily win.
That is true.
Any of you three.
It could happen.
All right.
Final question comes from Paul Meller from Oldham in the UK.
The question is, what is the synopsis of the 1979 film Murder by Decree?
but about a creed
just a short
brief synopsis
short paragraph
three four sentences
if you give us that
that would be helpful
you want me to give that to you
yeah
while you're writing your answers
I'll let the listeners
know a bit more
about this guy
Charles Old Hoss
Radbourne
and the finger
really more importantly
this is from an article
in USA Today
a football player
from the University of Tennessee
raised a pair of middle fingers to the University of Alabama student section on Saturday.
This is a story from last year.
A Michigan player offered the same twin salute to the Penn State crowd on the same night.
Their double digit discurtecies were sophomoric in tone, but historic in nature.
The middle finger predates the Middle Ages.
Deogenes raised his to demosthenes in ancient Greece.
And the Romans had a name for the obscene insult,
Digitus impudicus, or impudent, impudent finger.
Impudent?
Impudent?
Impudent?
I believe it's, I would pronounce it impudent, but I don't know if that's right at all.
I think that sounds better.
Okay.
So the finger form of FU goes back to millennia or more.
But the first known photograph of someone flipping the bird comes from American sports.
means Tennessee's Rashan Golden
and Michigan's Lavert Hill
are the latest exemplars of an uncivil
sporting tradition
begun at least as far back as
1886 by workhorse pitcher
Charles Old Hoss Radbourne.
On opening day of
New York's polo grounds that year,
Radbourne's
Haggud's Radbourne's baseball team
by the way, the Boston Bean Eaters.
Oh yeah, that's good.
So his Boston Bean Eaters were playing
against their rivals
the New York Giants
and if you see the photo
taken that day the team photo
you'll see Radbourne in the back row
far left with his middle finger slyly extended
it's hard to notice at first
and then there it is
once seen it can't be unseen
Old Hoss given the old middle finger to the giants
or maybe the world is a timeless insult
frozen in time
If old Hoss can appear in a photograph
from the 19th century Robert Thompson tells you
today. That's enough tradition for me to say that the middle finger is a part of the great
American pastime. Old Hoss is in the Baseball Hall of Fame. He won a record 59 games for
the Providence Grays in 1884, just a couple of seasons before his hide-in-planesite
middle finger photo. Unless you think that the placement of his digit could have been some of
a benign accident, Bradbourne went rogue again in 1887,
when he appeared on an early baseball card with hand on hip,
middle finger extended.
Radbourne biographer Edward Aikorn chose that image
for the cover of his book 59 in 84.
Old Hoss Radbourne, bare-handed baseball,
and the greatest season a pitcher ever had.
He's got this innocent expression on his face,
and then he's doing that on the side, Aikon says.
They airbrushed out the finger from some of the cards that were released,
but obviously the image survived.
Acorn editorial page editor of the Providence Journal says
Radbourne was known for a sense of humour and a taste for drink.
One of his relatives claims he drank up to a quart of whiskey a day
at the height of his career.
And now Old Hoss is sometimes better known
for a single finger on his left hand
than for winning 59 games in a single season with his right.
Ah yes, Old Hoss and the bird.
beautiful story and well told by USA Today.
A lot of bird.
It's been a bird.
It has been a lot of bird talk.
That's true.
Answers are in.
Final question.
What is the synopsis of the 1979 film Murder by Decree?
Option one.
A series of short vignettes whereby members of the British aristocracy order people to be murdered.
Each story results in the downfall of the character ordering the murder
Made on a shoestring budget
This underground cult film demonstrated the post-punk regard for British monarchy
Alright
Option one option two
A racist cop receives the heart transplant
From a black lawyer he hates
Who returns as a ghost
To ask the cop to take down the men who killed him
Okay
Classic buddy cop pairing of
a black ghost and racist cop.
But there was that movie where a black man,
it might have been a black nationalist,
and a racist man, they get sewn together
in a stuck on you type situation.
Ever seen that movie?
It's not very good.
Yeah, crazy.
Yeah, crazy.
Option three, a 1979 red scare propaganda piece
starring all-American housewife,
Joan Dillinger.
Joan is sure.
shocked to discover that her husband Elliot is guilty of murder but will not be charged
as Elliot an adjudicator for their local communist council was ordered to round up
America's still, Americans still displaying the flag on their front lawn.
Dutifully, Elliot rounded up 16 of their neighbours for execution only to discover
after the fact that in their fever to prosecute them, the council hasn't yet decreed
that displaying the flag is a crime.
Elliot, now a murderer, is disgusted with.
himself and what he has become
and Joan must watch as he
unsuccessfully tries to get himself convicted
of murder. Okay.
Okay.
Option four.
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson
attempt to solve the Jack the Ripper
murders in foggy Victorian London.
They're aided by their
combined intellect, a psychic
and Sherlock's lethal
weaponized scarf.
Will they find the killer before
anyone else is murdered.
Weaponized scoff.
I like that.
Now that's interesting.
Well, finally, stranded in a seedy backwater,
gangster on the run,
Red featherweight McGee,
finds himself embroiled in a bizarre,
small town court case.
A woman is being accused of breaking the town's
sacred and magical golden amulet,
and the town is intent on a hang-in.
Now, Red finds himself in the unlikely position
of prosecutor with the clock
running out and a life
on the line.
These all sound like great films.
Now I watch every one of these.
Every single one.
Yeah,
movie marathon after?
Yeah,
I mean,
only one of them exist.
We can watch one and then we just sit and imagine the others.
Tell stories about it.
All right.
I think Adam, it's your go.
Give me.
All of them again.
I'll give you the first line of each, maybe.
Yeah.
A series of short vignettes.
A racist cop receives a heart.
transplant.
A
1979
Red Scare
propaganda
piece.
Sherlock Holmes
and Dr.
Watson
attempt to
solve the
Jack the Ripper
murders
or stranded
in seedy
backwater
gangster
on the run
Red featherweight
McGee.
McGee.
Featherweight
McGee.
I said first
sentence
I gave your
first half
sentences
probably.
I don't think
that last
one could be it.
Where's the
murder by
decree?
Hmm.
Hmm.
When were,
okay,
so 77 was it?
79.
79.
Okay.
Commy scare.
Now,
that seems more like the 60s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like if we're making films.
Well,
yeah,
but it's very common back.
I get it,
I get it.
But no,
in the 60s,
that would have been
the big,
the big commie scare for sure.
That's like the commies.
People still do red scare stuff.
Of course we still do.
And there is,
yeah,
what the Cold War was probably?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When was,
cooling down?
Yeah.
Go Wolverines.
What's that movie?
Oh, yeah.
Red dawn.
Red dawn.
Red Thorn's the 80s, yeah.
I think, and I'm just, you're asking about the, like, the murder by decree would be having this woman hanged.
Ah, okay.
If the court decides that way.
What the court's doing, it's not a murder, is it?
Well, that's the decree, I guess.
I see.
I, it's a state execution.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think give me ghost cop, racist cop.
I'll go with that one, please.
We're going to go and go play ghost cop, racist.
I'm a ghost cop, you do a racist cop.
It's a death version.
I'm not here.
No matter what I do, you can't say I'm here.
Woohoo!
Could be a version of duck, duck, goose.
Ghosts cop, racist cop.
Ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost, racist cop.
Okay.
All right.
Jackson, what do you think?
Okay.
The idea of a weaponized scoff is something.
about that feels so specific
that it feels like it could almost be real.
But then I also think about
that first one with the British monarchy
makes me think of the video nasties
which I think was the 70s,
maybe that was the 80s,
which was like there was this real
like faces of death,
Cannibal Holocaust,
like let's just make
the most fucked up movies we can.
Was that in the 70s?
It might have been the 80s.
Cannibal Holocaust is like a lot.
Isn't Cannibal Holocaust?
Actually might not be part of the video nasties.
Oh, I was going to say,
for Cannibal Hardlecost was like 76.
Yeah.
So I just,
there was this kind of gonzo,
gory,
you know,
filmmaking.
I can't think of the gonzo you're thinking of.
Without a little muppet.
I'm thinking of,
yeah,
I'm thinking of the Muppets.
I'm gonna,
yeah,
I don't know if I quite buy that one,
but I'm gonna go with it.
I'm gonna go with the,
Option one.
Aristocrats.
I was thinking that as well.
That was gonna be my other choice.
Like,
I don't know,
like a vignette.
It just seems also something
that one of us would come up with.
But then I know that a lot of
The video, like, Faces of Death, which is a famous video nasty,
is just like a series of things happening.
Yeah, there's a series of grisly murders and real murder footage.
So, I don't know.
I'm going for it.
Okay, okay.
All right.
Then we've got the scarf one, which has been seen pretty funny.
We've then got the Mick, the last one, which is just like, I don't know,
the hanging of the woman.
Red feather white McGee.
Yeah.
Red featherweight McGee.
I don't think it's that one.
You've got the, what are the ones that haven't been chosen, sorry?
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson with the weaponized scarf.
The Red Scare.
And yeah, the red featherweight McGee.
You know what? Actually, I'm so sorry.
There's one last option in this round.
I said I wouldn't do this again.
Can you give me Sherlock Holmes instead, please?
I was about to be like, he wanted Sherlock Holmes before, but that could be a thing.
He was going to trick me.
Adam's trick.
He was going to lock in Sherlock Holmes for me.
Yeah, it could be Adam's trick.
He wanted Sherlock Holmes.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
He said something about the scarf was compelling.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
I did so.
What did you say?
You were like something was...
I forget what I said.
I pay more attention to this guy.
He's selling the important stuff.
Like, tell him.
I speak the truth.
Tell him.
Tell him what you were telling me earlier.
What was I telling you earlier?
You guys happy with Adam to change his answer?
Oh, I'll allow it.
Nor.
No.
I'll try it.
Then I'll stick with my original.
whatever that was.
I want to go to the Doctor Who one.
Okay,
for whatever.
The Doctor Who one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's free Doctor Who on his scarf.
Yeah.
So you want that one?
I've got racist cop, ghost cop.
Yeah.
No, actually, I'm happy with racist cop.
It's a good pick.
Yeah.
You're going back to racist cop.
Yeah.
I never left.
Give me Dr. Hu or whatever.
The Sherlock Holmes.
Here's the right.
The answers.
The one about red featherweight
McGee being stranded in a seedy backwater.
That was Jackson Bailey.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have picked that for you.
And what I was saying about the...
Yeah, yeah, you nailed it.
That was a sure.
Yeah, it was a sure answer.
Sometimes they're sure.
Yeah.
I think that would be an interesting
movie to watch.
The one about the Red Scare
propaganda piece.
That was Adam Kahnivalet.
I thought it might have been.
almost all of my time trying to write an army one.
And then I was like, that's too obvious.
And then I wrote one you picked immediately.
It was too long.
I didn't actually pick it as yours.
And I just was like, that's too long.
It's not real.
I also feel like I don't know how to write a IMDB.
I just don't think I know how to do that.
Yeah, fair.
Okay.
So that means one of the three of you has got it right.
That's exciting.
That is exciting.
Jackson Bailey, the current leader of the game.
game went for the short vignettes.
I don't think that's...
Adam Carnivali went for the racist cop ghost.
Okay.
And Joel Zammett went for Holmes and Watson.
Before you give the answer, do any of us want to double our money?
You're going to answer.
Do we want to buy insurance from the house?
Does that mean, wait, who's left?
Is, um, uh, if any of us said, I have, no, your one hasn't been revealed yet.
that our ones have been revealed?
No, they've all been revealed.
Mine hasn't.
Yeah, his one hasn't been revealed.
So one of us have picked Joel's one.
Right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very true, very true.
And that person is you, Adam.
The racist cop with a heart transplant.
That seems a bad right.
That's so funny.
After I asked, do either of you mind if he changes?
I'm like, well, Zammat's going on.
Like, yeah, about three points.
I've got so happy with myself.
Also, if you want to watch this film, you can.
It's called Heart Condition.
Oh, gosh.
Do you want to know who it's starring?
Yeah.
You want to have a guess.
Nick Cage.
Quite famous people.
It was in the 1990, 1990, actually.
Okay.
9090.
Julia Roberts's brother.
No, not Eric Roberts.
Um, are we took, yeah, you say.
Bob Hopkins.
And then Danzel Washington.
Oh, wow.
What?
What?
I highly recommend this one, the full insane.
That's crazy.
Again, another entry in the Joe Zammert Library of Movies only he's seen
that maybe only exist when he's watching them.
Now, Jackson, you went for the short vignettes.
That was Paul Meller, the question writer.
Shit.
And that means, Zatman is correct.
It is the scarf that has been weaponized.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
I've seen it sounded so insane that I'm, yeah.
Well, it's meant to be good.
Like Sherlock Holmes and a psychic.
I remember hearing about like there's like,
because they do like some weird shit with Jack the Ripper in,
in film, I guess.
Because there's that one where it's about time travel.
Mm-hmm.
They got to go back in time to like find the emo,
Jack the book comes back in like,
it's like a TV show, yeah?
I pretty was a movie.
Oh, maybe.
Maybe something else.
Yeah.
That's so funny, you netted yourself six points by telling me no.
But you also, I was then I'm like, what I was going to switch to the scarf.
I'm like,
say,
I'm like,
are you sure
you want to change?
Yeah.
Shut up,
man,
I never left me.
No,
I put a bag on him.
That's so funny.
But this movie is well.
I'm rotten tomatoes
got an 81%
approval rating from critics.
And Paul writes,
I watched this on Tobe the other day.
I really liked it as a fantastic cast.
Christopher Plummer plays Holmes.
James Mason,
Donald Sutherland.
What?
It does indeed have a weaponized scarf too,
basically is a weighted at one end
and Sherlock uses it
to clomber.
people.
He says it is both serious and at times fun.
I would recommend it.
It sounds right up my alley.
Yeah, that sounds great.
All right.
Final score check
in fourth place.
Just outside the medals.
It is Winter Olympics time at the moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what else.
Terminology.
On three points is Adam Carnival.
Brons is still a platform finish.
You're outside of, you're a podium finish.
You might be watching the podium.
was an option.
In third place,
second the bronze,
on five points leading the whole way
until the end.
It's Jackson Bailey.
Embarrassing.
Sneaking into the silver medal position
on six points as the house,
but leapfrogging into the lead
with eight points.
It's Joel Zammett.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
You really rags to Rich's story.
You really deserved it.
You did, though.
You, unlike Jack and I,
you forged.
Exactly.
I never intended to be on a silver platter.
I would describe your early leaders
to tee on a silver flower.
Yeah, dude, absolutely.
So that's it.
Where can people find you?
You can find us.
You go to sandspansradio.com.
You can find all the podcasts we do.
You find me and Zammett on the podcast,
Plumbing the Death Star.
Yes.
On the podcast, baseless speculation.
you can find it.
Yes.
If there is a podcast on that website, one of them will be on it.
That's pretty much a guarantee.
If you like Dungeons and Dragons and Narratives,
you can find the three of us on D&D's for nerds.
We also do a podcast called Beyond the Map,
which is horror narratives.
It's very spooky, very underrated.
Please listen to that.
And I also do a podcast called Thumb Crams,
where I talk about video games.
So just go to San Francisco.
Radio.com and you'll be
fucking fine. Yeah, a bunch of stuff.
There's a bunch of good shit there, dude.
So good. So good. So good.
So good. Where can we find
you though? Yeah. I can find me, Matsude
Comedy online. I'm
doing Adelaide Fringe and Melbourne Comedy Festival
coming up with Srenjai Amana.
We're doing like a spit show. Nice.
Newish material.
Whoa. A bit of fun.
Newish. Newish.
I'm like, it's not brand new. I'm not
I'm not going to make you sit through that.
I have made other people sit through that before now.
But if you come to these things,
they won't be...
It's never making.
It's always a delight.
That means a lot.
Thanks so much for joining me at your place here.
Anytime.
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Now that you know it, I've been Matt's show it.
Goodbye.
Oh, I'm not decided.
This is a good story.
Yeah, me too.
No, sorry?
No, I'm just recording.
We're recording, so it's a good story.
I'm going to hit record, so anyway.
Yeah, do you mind have kind of puts it in somewhere?
I don't mind. No, no, no at all.
So I...
That didn't sound right.
No, I don't mind.
I am Adam Carnivali, and I have sound mind and body.
I'm comfortable with you, including this.
as some post script or...
You're comfortable with Connor putting it in somewhere.
You could put it in instead of an ad.
Connor could put it anywhere.
This could be like the B movie
where every time someone says my name,
it plays this clip.
So, I...
I haven't seen the B movie in a while.
Is that what happens?
That's Jerry Tidefield.
Mugnumorpus, yeah.
I, to demonstrate to a friend
that in many ways,
language is on the listener
to understand
rather than the talker to be
understood. I once invented
an expression at the checkout with said
friend where to tell the
I was having trouble getting my bank card out.
And I said, oh, I'm so sorry,
I'm all apples and eggs today.
And so I have
since just started using that.
And no one has ever
called, it makes sense.
It makes sense. Well, it checks out because you know, you don't have
apples and eggs together. Yeah. You're an
absurd meal. Yeah, exactly.
Or like, I'm like, I'm not paying attention to this
person enough.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm the server.
I'm like, yeah, buddy, sure, please leave.
And there's got to be a part of you as well.
It's just like, wow, in case this is a common phrase, I'm not.
Yeah, I'm not questioning.
Yeah.
Because in what mad context is somebody going to say, you know,
well, I'm all upstairs downstairs today and you go,
you'll what?
No one says that.
Oh, is that man.
I like, yeah, fucking up all the, like you say,
oh, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it kind of thing.
That is good.
I love those, like, they all spoonerisms or whatever.
Allopres and all the ones and just deliberately fucking up, like, you know,
any sort of prunciations.
Yeah, yeah.
Making new words.
It's good.
It's good.
Talk fucked up.
Yeah.
Burn this bridge run it comes.
It comes out so it comes out so smooth.
It doesn't.
It works perfectly.
And you're like, yeah, right.
Let's do that.
Yeah, okay.
You miss 100% of the best shots that you hit me with.
Exactly.
A mixed metaphor.
Or something else.
I think that might be a mixed.
Because a spoonerism is where you take.
It's like, it's more about the word than the, that's like if you're like,
stunning, sorry, cunning stunting stunts.
Cunning stunts.
That's a spoonerism.
It was that.
You miss.
one of the recent plumings.
I didn't even,
none of us picked it up,
not even me,
but it was like the brightest,
there was the brightest flame burns,
the brightest.
It's something I said.
And I'm funny.
That's really,
I'm not a student.
That's good thing.
You got right to the heart of it,
didn't it?
I think so.
What else needs to be said.
I always say,
the brightest flame burns.
Twice as bright or one else.
There's a classic Zowie one of those too,
isn't it?
Like, don't think.
Oh,
uh,
think hard.
Yeah,
think harder,
not smarter.
Yeah, which is great.
And then I guess it was Ralph and Ralph's like,
what do you mean?
We're like, shut up, Ralph.
Think harder, not smart.
Think hard.
Yeah, you're not to think smart,
you're just going to be such an idiot for.
Think harder, idiot.
Think harder, not smarter.
Do I need to remind any of you how this works?
No, I'm not going to record one in months.
I'm just, I'm good, dude.
You need to remind it for yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll do.
I mean, I'll explain at the start, I guess,
in the way that I do,
which is basically wrote
when none of it goes in
and I imagine a lot of the regular listeners
would be the same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
E.
E. A.
Ah.
Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
Caveman vocal warmups.
Caveman vowels.
Eh.
Uh.
Would you think of yourself as preeminent?
I would consider myself preeminent.
I'm about to be eminent.
I wouldn't consider you as amateur.
Oh, that's ridiculous.
But you get paid.
Well, yeah, but not for cryptozoology.
In a way.
That's so funny.
You get paid for something?
In a way.
I'm actually a perfect.
I love the idea of you just have to get paid for anything.
Yeah.
And all your hobbies are pro?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, how do you become a professional cryptozoologist?
You can't, there's no, probably got to go into the field, look for beaten foot.
I don't think that.
What are you just do that?
My friend, you could count yourself a scholar of crypto.
of cryptozoology.
So there's no official you can't study it.
I believe there used to be a scientific journal, which no longer exists.
Scientific journal.
Look, my bullshit meter is blaring right now.
I've just put a line through amateur.
Yeah.
Third guess this week is Australia's pre-aminent cryptozoologist Jackson Bailey.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Welcome.
It's a pleasure to be on the show.
It's so good to have you here.
I almost used a question, but I'm like, there's just too much of a chance that Jackson will know this.
obscure beasts.
I do know the obscure beast.
I didn't end up using it.
Can we hear what it was?
And we'll find out of Jackson knew it.
I'm interested.
Test my metal.
The thing is on a little bit and I'll probably use it on a future episode.
It's funny if I don't know it though.
How embarrassed.
Yeah, yeah.
What is the common house cat?
I thought I knew it, but he said cat weird.
I'm going to say dog.
What are you answering?
What is the response?
Let me find it.
Cat, I think I'll say,
Dog.
Ah, you've beaten me again, Jackson.
Deemest.
Deemest.
Mr. Bond.
I raise you.
Dog.
It's like the world's dumbest.
Mariotti and Sherlock.
You may think you have
litigants.
Yeah.
Moriati, but I raise you
I understand
we keep doing this over and over again
just me and you back and forth to the point
where we've already mapped it out in our brains
we've all done it, we've moved the chess pieces
so just for your final answer
let's just cut to the chase
dog again
got me again
so it was
wood was
oh yeah I know woodbos
British Bigfoot dude
yeah yeah yeah
of course dude
famous on heralds
still seen to this
day.
Oh my lord.
Never heard of it.
Yeah, dude.
There's even specific instances.
God, what's the name?
The shock monkey or something?
Oh, the black shark monkey.
That's fake.
I think Woodwo's is proof
that Bigfoot doesn't.
I know you can't prove a negative.
But I think Woodwows is proof that Bigfoot doesn't exist.
Because the UK, that island is pretty inhabited.
Well, I believe.
There's not a lot of space for an ape to go,
to go on notice.
As Australia's preeminent
professional critics
We shouldn't have given him this power.
I will say that I'm fairly sure the Woodwows
or Woadwows
is actually just represents a man
that's gone feral rather than
like a mystical ape
which I think is really funny because then people
put it on their heralds
which is such a funny thing to be like
and my house my great noble house
represented by a man that went mad in the woods.
Like if you're a berserker.
Yeah, that's true if you're a big barbarian.
We saw a modern day wood woes.
When was it?
Way back when, when I was on the UK tour with you guys,
and we saw a man going, late night in London.
Yeah.
Would have been like maybe just past midnight.
A man going from person to person grabbing phones and smashing them on the ground.
We did see a modern woodwoes.
A modern woodwows.
Somebody should put him on their harold on their house grass.
Yeah.
The phone smash and phones.
Wow.
Lord Eddington of House phone smash.
It's a pleasure to meet you.
Lada at Woodworth.
Yeah.
Whoa.
That was really good.
I just discovered a new button on my watch.
More than a lot going on.
It's a busy episode.
God, that's cool.
I wonder what that one does.
That's the reason.
The walls are going to fall away
and it's going to be like a great glass elevator from Willie Walker.
We can fly into the scene.
I know how good the combo is going
when someone in it goes,
whoa, I just notice a new button on my watch.
I'm just very curious,
this watch confuses me a great deal
because there's, do you see this number up here?
Yeah.
So that, you would assume,
now obviously I'm so sorry,
the people at home concert,
you would assume that's the date.
It goes up to 50.
It's not the date.
That's very mysterious.
I don't know.
It's particularly mysterious.
I have no idea.
what that number is.
Is it like a meter thing?
Like can go 50 meters underwater or something?
Maybe.
You should drop one of a ball.
I can make it go up.
I press this button and it goes up.
And currently right now it...
Sometimes.
Well, now it's on 16.
Maybe it's about to help you count to 50.
And that's spinning now.
Just for counting.
Just for counting.
If you need to count...
And that's a bounces on the way.
Small venue.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
You know, Adam's bamboozled me with his watch.
It's crazy.
He's got too many crazy watches.
I get the feeling this episode is going to have a long post-credit scene.
I feel responsible.
Even smarter.
Cut it all.
I'll leave that to Connor.
I don't know how much he does cattle.
Well, we'll see.
I was going to say, oh, listeners should tell us, but.
They wouldn't.
To them, everything's left in.
It's a heady thought.
To them, everything's left in.
Good. Thank you.
I forgot for a second there that so answers can be edited out.
I was going to keep talking.
Oh, I go, no, this bit will just get chopped.
And, yeah, this is a good show if you know of anyone who likes fun.
I mean, this is the show.
How's everyone doing tonight?
Are you getting birthdays in the house?
Yeah, so, so, so.
What are you doing?
What are you from?
What else? What else?
On this podcast, we're going to do some crowd work, if you don't mind.
Okay.
Hey, so tell me what do you do?
What?
Where you're from, Vanita?
Where are you from?
Too amusing to me to try and do crowdwork and just not have an answer.
So where are you from?
Michigan.
What?
Michigan.
No way.
And where's...
What's that like?
Where's that?
Would you say that's near?
Kind of east coast?
And where...
What?
It took a while to...
What the hell?
What do you think about this?
Crowdwork.
but it's subtly, it's subtle at first,
but then becomes growingly obvious to the crowd
that the comedian is trying to get a date.
Yeah, I think that's really good, dude.
I think that's comedy, that's really good.
Or crowd work, but it becomes suddenly obvious
to the crowd that the comedian's losing their mind.
I've got a friend who's writing,
like trying stand up for the first time,
and he was like trying out jokes on me.
And at one point, as he's like reading out his jokes,
He laughs to himself and he's like, I am so funny.
And I was like, you got to, between like every joke, you gotta do that.
You gotta remark about how funny you are.
Something kind of really funny to me of a comedian being like in between jokes,
hmm, I am.
You guys are in for a treat.
I've written some good ones.
This is my best work.
Constantly hidden them.
Anyway, it was very funny.
Sorry, please.
No, I'm like, I'm like of that.
I might have that.
Yeah, try that out.
You can use anything we've said here.
anything that's come up
you're welcome to it.
You're going to say you're of sound mind.
Yeah,
I'm your sound mind.
And Matt Stewart is welcome to use anything I've said
in a stand-up set.
At two.
Can you smell ants, Matt?
I can't smell ants.
That's crazy.
Is that a specific skill?
Yeah, it is.
Like if you get close to an ant or you squish an ant.
You don't think so.
You don't know.
You can smell ants smell.
I can smell ants.
I can smell it.
There's an ant of, there's definitely a smell.
Ants smell.
Ants am I'm lucky enough to possess the ability to smell ants.
And you guys are evolutionarily, I guess, left behind.
Look, I don't know if it's actually a benefit to you, but you do have a uniquely strong sense of taste and smell.
I had a coffee earlier today.
Not like an hour ago I was having a coffee.
And I thought it tasted funny.
I'd made it here at the studio.
Jackson's like, oh, maybe it's old milk.
That seemed insane to me.
I actually, I should say, I discovered that upon tasting your coffee.
Sorry.
I said the problem is old milk.
Not off?
Old.
And then Jackson, to the day, guessed how far away it was from its expiration day.
Yeah.
It's a proud moment of mine.
Yeah, it was crazy.
I got a milk palate.
Bloody hell.
Yeah.
It does, yeah.
apparently it is a genetic quirk to be able to smell ants.
Oh, really?
You are evolving.
Me and Zameter is the next step evolutionarily.
I've always described you as quirky.
Human ant smellicus.
Amo-antzmelicus or something?
Have you guys got the thing where you can smell dishes that have been,
that had egg on them and then been washed?
It's like a real...
I've tested this theory.
Yeah.
I've got it and it sucks.
Yeah.
Every cafe you go to the...
The water cups and everything smelled gross because...
Interesting.
A little bit like egg.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that is interesting.
Damn.
I hope I'm not making this up.
I mean, I can definitely smell something.
Something's going on.
Have you ever heard of stinky sneezes?
No.
Someone sneezes and it smells?
There's like this conspiracy online.
Yeah.
Where some people will sneeze and then it smells like crap,
like Kappa, like do, do.
And they are convinced that they have this condition
called stinky sneezes and that the medical community
is trying to hide it from them.
I've had like one or two stinky sneezes in my life.
Yeah.
It's like you have either halitosis, tonsil stones.
There's like a bad breath of some kind.
There is no reason for it to be sneezing.
People are stinky, sorry.
People are just like every time I sneeze.
it stinks.
That's crazy.
What I assume is when I have a sneeze that smells,
it's that in my sneeze I'm dislauging some like flam or something
stinky.
Something stinky back there that's coming into the forefront.
But it's not a every sneeze.
Most of my sneezes are odourless or pleasant smell.
Wow.
Pleasant smelling fantastic.
Yeah.
It's quite sweet.
Did Gordon Lightfoot, did he do the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald?
Is that that MF?
I'm not sure.
The only one of his I know is
If you could read my
My God
Yeah, yeah
Yeah
My thoughts would tear
Just like an old time
A movie
We're a different parts of the song
It goes two different ways
That's a really
That's a really
The hero would be you
The heroes often fail
It's a very dark song
and you don't realize that on some, anyway.
Well, I think a lot of people maybe around our age is first heard
like more of a dance version.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And so the original is a very slow sad song.
Absolutely.
I know that's not true, but I'm going to,
using this time to cut and paste that.
I know, you're all looking at me like this.
We're all like, what?
This is a fucking wild.
I keep trying to, yeah, because I'm an idiot.
I keep trying to, because I can see myself
kind of in my periphery
and I keep wanting to be like, is my hair okay?
But then when I look over, I can't get it
good to my hair.
Your jacket is kind of bunched up
behind you a little bit. If you pull it down
at the back, I might...
I mean, it's fine, but if I could tweak
any element of you... If I could tweak you
if I could tweak you...
If I could tweak your... Tweet your nipples or whatever.
You've always been a bit of a tweaker. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Oh my God.
What a list.
Sure.
Hasn't been a sure whole episode?
Finally a sure came out.
You know when you're like,
this will do.
We'll see what happens.
Yeah.
You know, at the end too.
Sure.
Non-circus conditions.
Well, you know, if I said like
first made you fight out of a cannon,
you go, that's notable.
Yeah, but I say under non-circust conditions, the imagination sparks in what circumstance.
How could it possibly be notable?
Like, what, how did he do that?
Surely that's happened prior to circus conditions and prior to it like the late 1880s or so.
Do you really believe that someone's been fired out of a canon under not under what circumstances?
Execution.
Oh, yeah.
Fair enough.
Punishment.
That's an awesome.
Like, hey, we're going to do this to you, your friend.
So you've got to tell us what.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so funny to imagine like someone accused of piracy or whatever.
And they're like, choose your form of execution.
And you go, the cannon.
Assuming you'll be shot with the cannon.
What?
No, no, no.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, fuck.
What would that do to a, I mean, they fire guys out of cannon.
So it happened.
How do they survive that really?
I don't understand.
I don't know.
I'm no canon, Dr. Jack, but I'm fairly certain.
It doesn't have to do with the particular, like, I guess, gunpowder that they're using to, to, like, propel you forward in a certain way.
That's weirdness getting fired.
I guess, you know, you are in essence.
I don't get, I don't know how, I'm no doctor canon.
I don't know how a cannon works regularly.
You know what?
I'm assuming, yeah, you put the cannon ball in.
Yeah.
You get one of them big, like.
you know, those rushes.
Yes.
It looks like a jimmy sweep.
You shove that into the hole.
Yeah.
And then you light a fuse, which presumably there's a bunch of gunpowder at the bottom.
And then it creates an explosion.
And then I guess it's like the launches it forward.
And then the force of the air is nowhere to go.
And so he goes forward.
And isn't it to do with like if it's a, if the cannon isn't like, yeah,
doesn't it need to be smooth?
It needs to be a bit more like rough so that it can actually like spin.
Spin as it goes further.
Interesting.
So I guess, you know, you just climb in there.
Yeah.
Just, you know.
I guess any of us could get fired out of a cannon, really.
Yeah, really.
I would love to, frankly.
It looks like fine.
I think I'd have a blast.
Yeah.
I think it would be really exciting.
Hopefully into a net.
Yeah.
And like, my question would be is that the blast that happens.
Because presumably it's to do with gunpowder.
Yeah.
If they don't have enough gunpowder,
presumably you don't lose your legs.
That's what I'm wondering too.
Because ideally it's like, it's like, what's going to hurt you the most
is the fall, right?
Yeah, the land.
You know what, so if I'm landing to a net, it should be fine.
Yeah, however, if they've packed it full of a lot of gumpowder,
um, does that mean my legs go into my head?
Is there a way that, like, do I have to, like, do I have to curl up like a cannonball
to be fired?
It feels like, do I need a certain, but do I need a, like, a certain size of the canon,
because if it's like a large orifice, say, I don't know if that's the right word to use for a cannon hole,
I believe it is.
Yes, the canon orifice.
Yeah.
Like if it is rather like, you know, small,
so it's a tight squeeze to get in there,
is that going to hurt me more?
Are you going to come out?
Because your shoulders have ground against.
Because I guess if it is like the push.
Yeah.
If there's like a larger hole,
that means there's more force going out
and therefore it's going to hurt me less.
Yeah.
Whereas if it's a tight little squeeze,
oh no, my shins are now into my hips.
Yeah.
And I'm bleeding a lot.
But I wonder if a smaller hole means you're going to go for,
though?
Because like, hey, I don't know.
Yeah.
And I guess you, you know, in this situation,
you might want it smooth because you don't want to spin.
No.
I don't want to land and then throw up.
I feel like Johnny Knoxville has been fired out of a cannon.
Well, yeah, probably.
I mean, again, there's like all old Jack,
I'll surely have been fired out of a can.
But that's because, you know, we know how to do it.
Well, that's the thing.
Well, there's big cannons, though, right?
Yeah.
They're not like a cannon.
Because I was scared for a moment,
I was like, maybe it's the kind of thing where actually you can't get fired out of a
cannon, and that's a liberal myth.
Can you get fired?
Yeah, because they would design that cannon to fire a guy.
You're not using a cannon that fires regular cannon balls to then...
This is what came up.
Blowing from a gun is a method of execution in which the victim is typically tied to the mouth of a cannon,
which is then fired resulting in death.
That's crazy.
I don't know why.
You're fired out of a cannon.
You'll fire...
Yeah, I know.
It's what I'm saying.
They used to do some horrendous shit.
They would like strap you to the cannon, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am so excited to have spent...
I apologize for wasting your time.
That's okay.
With an answer that you will immediately pick it out of the line up.
Come on.
Come on.
Well, see.
Apparently, when you fight out of a cannon,
it's actually a piston.
you're not fired out like a cannonball.
It's just a big piston that jettisons you into the air.
I'm guessing they...
I believe the piston is fired, right?
I'm guessing there would have been some R&D
and be like,
let's put him in, or...
Because otherwise you'd just be hit by the force,
the shockwave, which isn't really what you want.
I think the piston, it's like a block that they put in the cannon
and then they fire the piston.
And the block goes...
The block hits you like a cannonball.
But you're standing on the block.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, right?
Wait, are we talking about circus or about execution?
No, no, no, no, circus.
Oh, okay.
The impetus.
You're standing on it, so it fires the block so that you're...
I think the form of execution works like that as well.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But you can't move.
They strap you to the cannon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's a, it's a, there's like a platform in there that you're standing on.
And they fire them.
They fire, but it goes just to the end of the cannon.
Yeah.
And then you go shooting out.
Yeah.
Well, I'll be.
Yeah.
We're all learning a lot today.
He's learning about cannons.
And he's learning about his watch.
It's all fun stuff.
Exactly.
I'm learning about this.
Yeah, you're learning what is a bird and what is food.
And sometimes it can be the same thing.
You know?
And cheers for tuning in to Huneer with Matt Stewart.
Now that you know it, I've been Matt Stewart.
Goodbye.
That's really good.
That's like how a big mouth bass might say.
Goodbye.
And they swims away.
