Who Knew It with Matt Stewart - 193 - Claire Hooper, Chas Licciardello and Lena Moon

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

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Hey, mates, it's the titular Matt Stewart here in 2026, letting you know about the 200th episode. It's happening live in Melbourne on the 27th of June, 4 p.m. at basement comedy club. And I've announced the first three guests, Jess, the Big Bopper Perkins, Mish, Big Wet, Whitrop, and Dave, the carryover champ Warnocky. There'll be at least one more guests announced. But in the meantime, grab your tickets. Welcome to Who Knew with Matt Stewart, the show where the guest's right or wrong answer. I'm the titular Matt Stewart and our first guest. It's currently touring her show, fun show, kiss kiss, it's Claire Hooper.

It's me. I love listening to the intro, which one of us is it going to be? And it is kiss, kiss, kiss. I mean, is that up to the... I was saying XX for a while and then somebody in a radio interview said kiss kiss. And I was like, what a missed opportunity. Of course it's kiss kiss. So then I started, you know, like in my backstage announcement.

Is it all you're ever a fun show? Kiss, Kiss. It's so much more fun to say. Yeah. It's cute as shit. Cute as shit. Our second guest this week is currently touring her show. Sounds like a brag. It's Lena Moon. It is. It's me. And you missed out on using the Holly Valance on Kiss, Kiss, on all of your Instagram posts then. Or a new song about Pauline Hanson.

Okay. No. She made it. Oh, I haven't heard it either, but I read. Holy Valance? Holly Valance made a song for Paul Enhancing. Why? Our third guest might be able to. explain that more.

He's host of Planet America, a weekly show, disseminating American politics. It's Charles Lichidelo. Hello there. Yeah, Holly Valance is Maga. She's married some rich dude in England, and she's now all about not paying taxes and about supporting Trump.

Which is so funny. And Australian in England, to be Maga is a long way around. I know. I'm still trying to figure out my identity. Maybe if it just lands in your lap like that, you know you just haven't met the right billionaire

yeah that's right yeah so the way I mean big big stuff going on in America always right chas you started the show almost 15 years ago were you expecting it to be still running no if you look at the rest of my career

the fact that went for more than two years is astounding um yeah no Trump really uh really gave us a bit of a bit of CPR ironically compared to what he's doing for the rest of the world it was great for us but the problem is that it just means that my entire life is just rented to to Twitter and American politics and just constantly learning with some disaster like literally while we're recording this in the what hour or whatever we're going to be recording there's going to be two assassination attempts there are going to be four tweets about Jesus

no 12 indictments and I'm going to spend next three months catching up this is what my life is. Endless hamster wheel of just drudgery. We've got a bunch of American listeners. I imagine they find it pretty bizarre that there's an Australian TV show dedicated to American politics. They do, they do freak out about that a little bit when we interview Americans for the first

time and they're going, they need us to explain it, like to really break it down. Okay, so hang on. You're where? And they especially freak out because for those who have watched our show, they'd know we are quite nerdy and we are considerably more nerdy than American news is. And so they're usually shocked that we ask better questions and they get from the American news.

And you get big powerful players from American politics on like regularly, right? Like people have been in the cabinet and whatnot. Well, it's because John, John, I think it's because John, John's name is John Barron, which for those who aren't really into American politics wouldn't realize that is Trump's fake name. And so I think like when he rings up the newspapers and talks about himself, he calls himself John Barron as Trump's spokesperson John Barron. And so I think they think they're going to talk to Trump. And so we get really important people.

But then very disappointed people. That's amazing. All right. And it's on if in Australia's Monday nights. Monday nights after Media Watch, which is very convenient because it means that by the time the next Media Watch comes along, that's what, six and. three quarter days, that's too long for that. We're out of date by the time the next Media Watch happens.

So they can't cover us. We're very excited about that. That's clever timing. There's no safer place on the lineup, on the TV lineup, then right after Media Watch. Yeah, look, on one hand, you could go, well, that's wonderful. That really says good things about your show that you've got such this wonderful time slot. By the other hand, they don't really recognize the standard clock.

And so it means we're going to. start sometime between 932 and 947 every week. Is that right? Do you watch, me? You watch Matt? I normally watch it on clips online. Yeah, I love it. It's like goggle box for intellectuals, isn't it?

Pretty much. That's a great way to put it. We should put out a promo because they do better than we do. All right, so the way this show works is ask a relatively obscure trivia question. Our contestants have to write a convincing fake answer. I then read their answers as well as the real one. and I have to guess which one is correct. And the first question comes from listener Kelly Clark

from Balladong Nunga country over in W.A. And the question is, what does the German word cats and jammer mean? What does the German word cats and jammer mean? So, yeah, just got to come up with a fake answer, convincing if you want. I know, Lena, that's not normally the way you play the aim. Yeah, I play this like a kid who's like didn't study, for the test.

Like, I know that you can't study for it, but I mean, no, it's like I have nothing in my head. As soon as you ask the question, I'm like, I don't know anything about the world. I've played it before. I got Dave Warnocky to host one time so I could play, so I could see it from the other side. And it is a funny thing where you're like, wait, my brain just, I've lost it. And I'm an improviser.

Like, that's one of my things. I should be able to make something out of nothing. When it comes to this, I'm like, what is language? Yeah. You ask a single question. Anyway, so let's see what happens. Man, what are you here for? You must really want to promo your tour.

Yeah. Oh, I just have not much on. Yeah, like if you call me today, I probably would have been playing ano-117 packs Romana and not talking to anyone. It's fun in between that though, right? The existential dread or whatever you feel. Yeah, I've just learnt to live with it.

Yeah. It's just always there, like the sun. While you're writing your answers, this is how the scoring works. You're at one point if your fake answer was guessed by another contestant another point if you correctly guess the answer and by the way I'm also playing as the house. I'll put in two of my own fake answers for each question with the help of the question writer and we get a point for each one of those that I guess choose so each of us can screw up to three points per

round which seems fair but the probability apparently favours me the house and that's why in the third sorry in the final round the guests get triple points and the house does not even things out and most of our questions I should say come from our great patron supporters if you want to submit a question sign up on any level by patreon.com slash do go on pod linked in the show notes. And also I should say, we film the episodes these days if you want to check out the full video app, check out the do go on YouTube channel.

Or you can have a look at the clips on Instagram or whatever. Who knew it? Pod. The answer to question number one, what does the German word, Katzenjammer mean? Here are your options. Technically spring pajamas,

but use colloquially the clothing you wear. when good weather arrives. Option two, to preserve a gamey meat for later consumption. Option three, a steel curved blade reminiscent of a cat's claw used in whittling for fine details. Option four, when you're told on by a cousin, but to your favourite auntie or uncle, so you don't end up in trouble from the Yiddish Kudsenyama,

meaning cousin crying. Or finally, a hangover, literally translating to the wailing of cats. Oh, okay. Claire, what do you think? Oh, no. Is it because I said, okay, is that why you asked me first? Like a teacher and, you know, looking for the class member who's been a problem.

I'm going to bring you up to the chalkboard. Well, deal with this, because you've made a terrible error in starting with a person with the right answer. Okay. It's the hangover. Hangover, locked in. Dang it. I see, I did this every time because I was going to

go with hangover but then I do this thing we're like well we should diversify the risk well Claire did that one and I don't want to copy her because copying is bad apparently but um you wanted you wanted to hangover didn't you pardon I wanted hang over to hangover too it's the only thing I relate to out of all the things we've discussed I do a lot of wittling actually um um okay no because I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna try not to humiliate myself okay I can actually get points and I think it's the hangover one all right locked in Are you the kind of person? Sometimes people come on and they're like,

it's like being at a restaurant with a group of people and you want to pick a different meal. No, yeah, that's part of it. But it's like sometimes you do want the right answer. Yeah. And the good food. Yeah. You also want lasagna.

Yeah. Charles, what do you think? Well, a couple things. First of all, I don't think copying is frowned upon anymore. Isn't it? I think it used to be frowned upon, but now I think AI has replaced it. That's true.

Copping's actually very moral. A human copying another human? That's true. Yeah. And it's also like we have watch content now and we have like people sitting in front of or literally doing the same video as someone else. And that's that counts as a career. It's very much looked at up.

Also I'm like you. I have no desire to not humiliate. So it's a lifetime of practice. And so. I am not going to go for the one, which probably is correct because Claire seemed very, very confident. I don't know. I just thought it would be good to come on strong. It does sound like the right one though.

If you're bluffing, you've bluffed me out. But having said that, I don't care. I don't care if that's the right answer. I'm going to go for the cousins for two reasons. Number one, because there was way too much information. The person who wrote that, we've tried very hard and they deserve his own. Number one. And number two, that's the answer I want to be.

right. I desperately want that cousin's answer to be right. I want that word to exist in the world. It needs to exist, even if it doesn't exist. So I'm going to wish it into existence now. I'm going cousins. I like that. I like that way of playing the game because in this small gap between answering and finding out the real answer, it is, it's real to you. It's Schrodinger's answer, isn't it? That's right. All right. Except for, what was, what was Kelly? She knows the right answer. Kelly knows. Yeah, Kelly knows. Oh, and it is a very cat-based. Everyone's answered cats.

And isn't that what Schroding was about too? Oh, yeah. Cat in a box? Yeah. It was a cat in a box. It was a cat in a box. It was a cat in the box, yeah. That's something we all know and agree on.

Yep. I wish that was a question. Yeah. All right. Here's the answer. Spring pajamas. That was Claire Hooper. It was lovely, wasn't it, guys?

It was a beautiful vibe. Thanks. Preserving gamey meat. That was Chaz. That was really good, jazz. Thank you. Steel curved blade reminiscent of a cat's claw. That was leaner.

That was good too. That was real good. That was real good. That one took work. And when I fight crime, I'm going to use one. Yeah, you should. Yeah. It's like a little sight on a handle.

That's how I imagine that. A tiny, tiny sight for tiny, tiny wittles. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's cute. I think someone should make that. Now, the one for the one for you. from the Yiddish cousin crying.

I'm afraid that was Kelly, the question writer. Yeah, it was very clever. Yeah. Very good. And I don't know if the Yiddish part was true or if it's all nonsense. But I think bonus points if that's all bullshit, I reckon. So I point for the house there. And that does mean that Claire and Lena are correct.

It is a hangover, literally translating to the wailing of cats. Did you know any of that? No, but it did. I did. cat in it. I don't know why. That's why I did cat claw, but just, I had a feeling because the word started with the word cat. Yeah. Our languages aren't that different. I picked up on a vibe, yeah. Yeah, there were a couple of cats in there. I'm an empath. And then I like how Claire took the other half for the pajamas, cats' pajamas. But it, well, yeah, it was, it just really felt, again,

it felt like a thing that should exist, like a lovely word to describe those clothes you put on. on because the weather's changed and it's changed for the better. T-shirt weather. That's a thing, isn't it? T-shirt weather. In English, T-shirt weather in German. Cats and German. It also feels very German to liken a hangover to a cat screaming.

I don't know why that feels very German to me, but just the concept of them being like, this is a belly cat, yes. Have you ever had both at once, Wiener? A cat screaming and a hang-o. Yes, I have. Thank you for asking. And a German. No.

No, that was the one missing element. No, because I had a cat that for a solid year of the end of his life, he would just stand in the hallway and scream. And then he bit Celia Pequala on the face, but we don't have time to get into it. Yeah. Yeah. You've got to see the shows. Got to see the show.

You've got to go and see Bragg. Oh, I forgot the name. Hey, I appreciate it. Sounds like a brave. I mean, I almost handed you a really good show. But then I tried. I think trying to was like, like, Well, I thought what you were doing there was just lobbing up

the opportunity to Lena and Lena refused to take it. And she didn't even say her show title. I brought it up. Sounds like a brag. It's called sounds like a brag. Also, by messing up and then backing over it four times, you've got five times. Yeah, that's true. Much better value.

Plus. All right, we're up to question two. Two different people sent us in. Callum BW from Tazzy and Amber O'Leaky from Aberdeen, Washington, and they just wanted to come up with a fake species of amphibian. So you don't have to describe it or anything like that, just the name of an amphibian species. And while you're writing your answers, here's some more info on cats and jammer. Wictionary writes of its etymology, cats is cat, and jammer is wailing all lamentation.

According to one source, the hangover sense derives from an earlier version, Coltsonjammer, which is literally puke misery, which is also pretty good. All right, the answers are in question number two. Which of these are real species of amphibian? Wait, hold on. You worded that really differently before. I said, yeah, before I said to come up with a fake species of amphibians.

Yeah, hence my answer. Yes. Okay, and now you're saying which of these is a real species. Okay. Yes. Well, you couldn't give me a real one. Oh, were you trying to come up with something that sounded fake? Let's see if it stands out to everyone.

Boy, do you want a chance to do that, no. No, no, I'll commit. Now I can't wait to hear it. I don't know, but one is not like the others. I'll say that and maybe I'll yeah, all right. Here are your options for question

number two. Which of these are real species of amphibian? Trembling toes toad. Glowering gussy. Pink-eyed salamander. Bubble butt frog. Problem squeaker frog or a giraffe. I guess which one's mine.

Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I really haven't left the house much. This is, that was very funny to me. Okay, um, oh, Matt, I don't know, man. What was the first one? Trembling toes, toe. I'll do that one. Thank you.

Look good. Chaz? There was, it was a problem squeaker frog and a bubble butt frog. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Okay. Yeah, that's. I kind of went a bit vague after I heard the word giraffe.

I'm just trying to recollect my head. I like it. It's also not as a giraffe. It's so fun. For some reason, that makes it extra fun. I have my school reports with me, and there is a thing in year eight for a different reason, but there is a thing in year eight where they're like, Lena needs to work on applying herself to activities that don't come naturally to her

and not give up easily. Right? And I feel like that kind of summarizes what happened on the last question. Okay, sorry. I'm going to go, I'm going to go problem squeaker frog because I don't really understand what that means. And so I think that's probably more likely to be the real one, but I don't know.

All right. Locked in, Claire. Oh, my gosh. Oh, see, okay. So you don't want to, You just don't want to play the game too strategically, but I'm like, there were two that I thought might be Chaz's, and now I'm like, well, then Problem Squeaker can't be hit.

Surely at this point in the game, he wouldn't be picking his own. Like, surely he wouldn't. But already I'm thinking about it too much. So I'm just going to pick the one that I think would be nice if it was, but I bet it's not. But I still wonder to be the pink hide salamander piece. I think it's really interesting. No one chose to just giraffe, but that's fine.

You could just choose, Matt, you could just choose giraffe for her. Couldn't you? For whom? For whom? I want to put the house picks giraffe. Thank you. Thank you. That's nice. Okay.

Here's who wrote the answers. Glaring Gussie was the house. Great. Bubble butt frog was Claire Hooper. Yep. Good. Good job. This is going to shock a few.

A giraffe was leaner. What? Now the house picked that one, so I think you'd point to. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay, Lena went for trembling toes, toad. I'm afraid that was the house.

Claire, sorry, went for Pink Guide salamander. That was Chaz. See, I knew it, and yet I just couldn't help choosing it. I wanted to be real too. Well, played. Is it? Yeah, does it sound beautiful? Does it sound like it's got an eye condition?

It sounds, well, it sounds like both at once, which is why it's so perfect. It sounds like an incredibly beautiful creature, but also it's kind of ha-ha pink eye. But it also, like that salamander touches its butt and then it's eye. That's how you get pink eye? What? Yeah. A beautiful creature that needs antibody. Yeah.

But it also, it's very scientist to, like, they are so desperate to, like, talk about the differences in them. Like, because they're like, well, it's a salamander and there's so many different types of salamanders. So let's, all right. It looks like it's got pink eye. Like, that felt, it felt right. Because I'm clearly good at science. And this means that Chaz is correct, it is the problem squeaker from. Yeah, which I'm still confused by and I've read a bit about it.

Are we ever going to find out what that means? What part of it is a problem? Well, I think it's like it's from... Maybe the fact that squeaks. Apparently, yeah, it's from Cameroon and Eastern Nigeria. And its Latin name is Arthrolipitis. Arthur Rolp it's some of that palava. And apparently palava comes from a West African word meaning problem.

I know the word palava. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that was a West African. But also problem. Imagine that. Imagine being an animal and someone's gone, you're a problem. Yeah.

That would hurt my feelings. I'm just doing my best. Hey, some animals are annoying. Oh, true. Okay, true. But imagine that being your scientific name. If that was me and a scientist told me you're a problem, You know what I'd do?

I'd go off to Cameroon. That's what I'd do. It's straight there and make it like you get away from. So everyone gets, I think House gets a point. Oh, Chaz gets two points and Lena gets a bit of a pity point as well. Let's not call it that. So after two rounds, Claire's on one point, but everyone else on two points. As we go to...

I regret. I regret choosing the poetry. I'm going to have to play hard. And you also really, you were gifted Lena appoint as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, well. I don't regret that. I nearly chose giraffe myself.

I mean, it would have been a great turn-up, wouldn't it? Question three, really clear. I picked this based on one of your old jobs. This question comes from Ian Irving from Belfar. So I think you should have an advantage here, maybe. The question is, what is the name of a small independent bakery in low-street? Stoft in the UK. It's just the name, you know, it's like a...

Say it again? I wasn't listening. What's the name of a bakery in the town or city of Lowstoft in the UK? It's just like a small independent bakery with a silly name. You just got to come up with a fake silly name for a bakery. Got it. And while you're writing, I went to the kids encyclopedia to find out more about the problem squeaker frog, aka arthurolpitus palava.

It's a small frog you can find in the mountains of northern Cameroon and eastern Nigeria, and its name palava comes from a West African word meaning problem. In terms, this is what they point out as an interesting part of the frog. The frog's eardrum called the tympanum is easy to see. That's what they call an interesting fact about the frog. Its fingers and toes are thick and rounded, slightly swollen tips. These frogs do not have any webbing between their fingers or toes And the skin of the back of their belly is a bit bumpy and wrinkled

Is it a problem then because they're like We believe frogs to be webbed and this is a problem Oh yeah This one is not webbing us question everything We have to redefine Frog Yeah And that's a problem for us

I'm really caught on the problem thing It's question number three What is the name of a bakery in Lohstoft in the UK? Low Stoft's Doe Soft Cake My Day, Punk You can dough your own way Tart of the Deal Low Stoft

Oh, Tart of the Deal You've really got to pronounce that tea better Tart of the deal Thank you Yeah, because that is not what I heard What did you hear? I heard it slur Oh

I'm not even sure what's slurred Don't worry about that's beautiful. Low soft and two smoking buns or do, D-A-Postri E-U-G-H. Do you mind reading them again? I'm a bit nervous about reading one of them. They're beautiful. Now I've got a second thing to think about as I go to bed tonight.

I reckon you'll get it later, but don't worry about it now. I'll get as I'm leaving. I feel bad that I heard it. I heard it too. I definitely heard it. I was going to vote for it. Same because I was like maybe that's why it's known because it's super problematic. I just can't figure out.

All right. So, Chaz, it's your go first here. Can you read them out again? Sorry. Okay, my day, punk. You can dough your own way. Tart of the deal. Low soft and two smoking buns.

Or dough. I'm going to say you can do your own way. Because once again, that is a great. great idea for a bakery. You just say, okay, customer, over there. There's the oven. Pay me. Oh, true. Yeah, those businesses are so smart. Self-service. Like, supermarkets have all done that. You ought to sit there and wait an hour for the thing to bake. That's a long line. And it costs more than normal bread probably as well. I guess you'd have to have like a laundromat vibe. You'd have to be able to put it in and come

back or read it. Oh, true. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Lena? I think it might be It's hard It's really hard The problem with like pun Business names is Probably most of them exist somewhere Yes

So which one of these is in low soft I think there's two that are very specific That's what's killing me is because it's like The reason you've mentioned the town Feels like it has to be because it's in the name right That's what's making me Kind of go around in circles Because why else would you bring it up

Yeah, true. It's either that or it is like Claire says to be specific, because if you just say what's the name of a... Oh, yeah, okay. But then you'd be like, well, technically it's still true. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Okay. Can I have the two that have the town name in it again?

Yep. Low Stoft, Doe's Soft. I'm going with that one. And low, stuffed and two smoking buns. Yeah, I'm going with the first one. All right. The second, yep, yep. All right.

I'm trying to it, low, soft and two smoking buns. What's the air? I know. It took me ages. It's lockstock and two smoking barrels. It took me ages. Great. But it took me a bit of time.

I like how they turn barrels into guns and then into buns. Yes. Which I think is awesome. Well, maybe before the movie title, there was lockstock and two smoking guns just as often as barrels. Yeah, that's right. Maybe. Maybe it's a real IRA thing. It can be.

Do you know what I mean? I love the way, how generous you've been with the frogs and, you know, work on that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. I think Clay got too far this time. I guess too generous. Okay, got it. This is an outrageous thing to do, but I'm just, I'm going to go with Dole.

Doe? Okay. Thank you. No worries. Okay. Is it right the answers? This podcast is a humiliation ritual for me. I just need you to know that.

No, I think it's fantastic. You're mailing it. Because if, okay, wait a second. I'm loving it. Just wait. I love it. I'll just, can I, so low stuff and two smoking bun. I think I just worked out which one was the giraffe.

No, can we not coin that? That summarises an experience I don't want to mortalize. This is a real leaner's giraffe. Yeah. Fuck. Sorry, can I say, though, you'll notice that that was edited, right? You'll notice that the first message was edited. Oh, yeah.

Because I did just do low stuff in two smoking barrels. And then I thought, Oh, that's got nothing to do with a bakery. So I ended up and put a bakery adjacent word in it. And then realized how nonsensical it was. I mean, these sort of names are often pretty stretched. It maybe could have been like low, soft and two baking barrels. No, yeah, no, there's heaps of better versions for sure.

Yeah. Smoking bums is pretty fun as an idea. And I can see, like, the artwork they're. put on the sign. Yeah, it felt British. I think it was really good, Lena. Thanks. You should vote for it.

Really? Okay. You're going to get another point, Lena. If I win out of like weird pity and bad brain, I don't... I think I'm going to keep track of the pittiness of the points as well in case of time. They should be half. Now, the most problematic one, tired of the deal, that was me and I still can't figure out what it is. Matt, it's so funny.

That you have. Say you're the second T, which is the important T? Second three. Second T, man. Second T. What if that letter was a different letter? The second T. That's beautiful.

This is how Matt lives. You won't edit this out. I don't know. Kind of, this is really embarrassing for me. This is remind me very much of the Don McLean classic Vincent. This world was never meant for any of birth to his romance. Connor,

can you remind me if you figure it out and let me know what is. I think it actually shows that you have a beautiful sensibility and you clearly don't use bad words. I'm not. I'm sure I'm sure it's something I say all the time. No, Matt, don't say like that. Think about the vehicle that Doctor Who travels in.

Shorten it. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thanks for putting in terms I understand. Yeah. Now, Lostov dose of dose of.

Lena went for that. That was Claire Hooper. Yeah, because you went location. Yeah, I also went location. Which is smart. But also you had do stuff in it. Yeah. It's fun to say, too.

I knew you'd enjoy saying it. Lowstof's dough soft. It's hard to say. It's a tongue twister, but I like it. I think it would probably look better on a sign than, like, if you were the person answering the phone and the low soft bakery, you'd get sick at saying it. Yeah, yeah. Now,

Here we go. Chaz went for you can dough your own way. That was written by Ian, the question writer. It felt right, though. I get it. And you should open that story, you're really sure. I'll go and make my own dough. Claire went for dough.

That was Chaz. Yes. You're locked in. I love to pick Chaz's answers. You two are locked in. It's beautifully, except that it's costing me so many points. And no one liked or went near the correct answer, which is maybe why the business is out of business now.

Cake my day, punk. Yeah, it's not that great. You know why? Because it was the one that, like, it was almost, it was as bad as my one. Yeah, yeah. But it felt worse. I don't know.

There's something about it's awful, isn't it? I think it's interesting how a lot of us went bakery and we went like savory, right? I'm not going cake straight away. But I probably should have. I think, yeah, maybe in Australia, we think a cake shop's a specific second thing, maybe. Yeah, you'd almost be expecting you to be ordering a cake from a patissiere. You wouldn't necessarily go to it. Like a bakery does.

It implies like leavened does. You know, like a bakery is where you have, like, yeast. Yes. This is playing right in your... I know, I'm whatever. Shut up. But don't you know what I mean? I agree.

No, yeah, totally. There's cake dough and there's bread dough and you expect the bread dough at the bakery. Yeah. Also, what kind of bakery calls their customer punk? What's that all about? Yeah, true. It would be so much better without the punk. Like, cake my day, that's charming.

That's like cheeky, but it's still charming. What do I know? What do you know? You know a lot? I've never run a successful bakery. I don't know a lot. I'm still in last place. During lockdown, I watched Greatest Jane Bakeoff so much.

And I've lost a lot of the terms. But what's that thing where you like wrap it up in glad wrap and you put it under in a draw? Proving. Proving. Like there's things that I'm like, I could have said that word a couple years ago. Is that proofing or proving?

Oh, you tend to use that. You know the slur? Proving. It's not like proof reading. You say proving with a V. Right. But it's spelled with an air? No, I'm curious because I just,

I don't know if you've noticed, but I say a lot of the words that exist in the world wrong. Oh, you just. What rough puff was another one? Oh yeah, rough puff. Yeah, much quicker than a... Just make a rough puff and you'd walk around and just go, oh, it looks like, what are you just going with a rough puff this time?

It's a cutie, isn't it? I should have called it the low soft rough puff. Okay, question four comes from Kendra G from Toronto. The question is, what is the nickname of Dutch athlete Fanny Blankers-Cohen who won four gold medals in track and field at the 1948 Olympics? What's her nickname? Dutch athlete Fanny Blankers-Cohen won four gold medals in track and field at the 1948 Olympics.

What's her nickname? And while you're writing her answers, here's a little more info about the bakery. Ian writes, honestly, I just found this while scrolling Google Maps as I am visiting the area. Pretty sure it's closed. So I will be just making something up now. Okay, so this is Ian's fan fiction version of the backstory. Founded in 1981, two years before the movie's Sudden Impact starring Clint Eastwood, the movie with the famous Make My Day quote.

It was visited by Clint, who took inspiration for the iconic quote as well as four hot cross buns and a loaf of sour dough. Closed in 2018 as a rival bakery called The Food, the Baps and the Ugly opened and ran it out of town. Really? Really? That sounds like a joke. If you drifted in and out, it started with Ian saying that he couldn't find any information about it, so I'm going to make it up. So I did drift in and out.

What's hard when you're doing the question? Really, those bits aren't meant for you necessarily, but it's, unfortunately, you are all hearing it live as well. I would also like to point out this exact experience we just had, this is having ADHD in high school and not knowing. Yeah, yeah. This is the exact experience. So I learned stuff like this and I miss the stuff that's like, but it's not been confirmed.

Right. So then I go out into the world and tell people stuff like it's real and then find out. find out the hard way it's not. Anyway, I've got to figure this out. Yeah. Hey, while you're still writing your answer, let's go for a quick break. All right, we're back.

And the answer to in for question number four, what is the nickname of Dutch athlete Fanny Blankers Cowan, a four-time Olympic gold medalist. Here are your options. Happy feet. Lightning clogs. Fast Fanny. The flying housewife.

Fanny runs. Or the sludge. Far out. What do you think, Claire? Happy feet, lightning clogs, fast Fanny, the flying housewife, Fanny runs, or the sludge? Oh my God, the sludge. If someone nicknamed me the sludge, I would walk into the sea. That feels like a high school nickname.

Yeah, what do you think, how would, why do you think they would name her that? Oh, just, I don't even want to. Looks like you're moving slowly. Yeah, I don't even really, yeah. Holy, holy, molly, eh? Yeah. Fanny runs. Flying housewife, fast fanny, light and clogs, happy feet.

Yeah, I'm really, I'm probably not going to pick the sludge. But, I mean, I might regret it. I'm trying to decide whether the evolution of language is the joke, i.e., fernie, fernie, Fanny. Or is it that it is a revoltingly dated thing to say? The Flying Housewife. Yes. So I'm trying to decide between the two vibes.

Or is it, yeah, pre-Pixar movie or whatever. Oh, yeah. Wait, what date was it? 948. Oh, yeah, but, you know, language is. Yeah, no, that's what's trying to figure out. The sludge. I'm just thinking the sludge now could be one of those, like,

you know how we call people with red hair bluey or whatever? It's like, it could be one of those ironic, like, she's actually super fast. Yeah, nimble. Yeah. I don't feel, yeah, okay. All right, all right. I hate that it's me first.

I was so confident at the start of the game. And now I'm doing terribly. And you walked it in as well. That's the first time when you were confident. Yeah, that's right. I know, but I don't feel that this one. Right. So let's go with.

You know what? Let's go with the Flying Housewife. Is that what it was called? Yeah. Yeah, all right. I think Lena. I'm doing Fanny runs. Fanny runs.

Yeah. Yeah, but what's your answer? Oh, no, Lena. Lena denied the five, too. Oh, do you? I spent so much time buried in my own brow that I miss life, you know? Yeah. It's too late.

Charles, what do you think? I'm really torn. Honestly, this is a really tough one. I reckon they are all possible in terms of like, like why we'd be thinking of these. Like, like what how this came up from the internet, 80 years later, it has to be a weird thing. Yeah. Like funny runs would be a classic kind of strange language thing that just passed through the times. Yeah, and also you know, the sludge, the same kind of thing.

But they just, I mean, my first thought was the housewife, the fine housewife for the same reason that Claire was saying that, yeah, this is the 40s. but on the other hand, this is a women's sprint. Every single person there in the 40s could be called house one. And I thought, well, maybe she didn't call herself that. Like, maybe her country called her that. Yeah. In which case, maybe she was, since she was such a fast woman in Holland that they called her that.

Look, that sounds like the most likely. It does sound like it. But I'm kind of secretly hoping it is Fannie runs because then I'll tell everyone about it. Yeah. That's not the end of the time. But, yeah, I'm going to go housewife. I'll go to housewife.

Okay. Here's the right. The answer is the sludge. That was the house. Okay. Which I had to change the last second because Chaz and I had written very similar ones. Chaz's was fast fanny.

And yeah, I had fighting fast fanny or something like that. I was probably a little too close. And the sludge is my brain thinking quick. Wow. Apparently. Well, that's better than a giraffe. You're amazing, man. The fun thing is that, you know,

it can be someone that makes no real sense, but in this scenario, you start making sense of it. Yeah. That could be ironic. That's right. Or it could be, yeah. This is how cults are formed. It has people to start making, like, excuses.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. But the very act of opening your mind enough to contemplate a possible answer to enter as your own submission, means your brain is too open to the possibilities of all the other ones. Yeah, yeah. Like it's this weird, it's this kind of weird gymnastics you have to do

where you like open up enough to have an idea and then shut down back to your logical brain in time to answer correctly, which I've not been doing. Oh, that's a really good point. Yeah, we're in different rooms. So you got happy feet, that was Lena. And you were saying you missed it, it was 948, but I think it was still a lot of fun.

Yeah, yeah. That's why I played it cool. and double down on how language works. But also, my first one was clogs, and I was like, that feels inappropriate. Well, lightning clogs was Kendra, the question writer. Yeah, it's good. It just felt like me going the only thing, and the only things I really know about Dutch is like oven and clogs.

And I was like... Dutch tilt? Oh, I went to film school. Dutch oven. That cabin, I should have thought of that. That was a great option. Of course Dutch tilt Yeah, that should be the first one

There's so many Dutch things No, but I know But like No, I'm just thinking about it now Yeah It's why they've got a lot of things named after them But clogs is

I mean, it's just a funny word As it is It felt it felt right Because it's feet related Now Fanny runs Lena went for that That was Claire Hoop I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm actually I respect it Yeah it's fun right It really made me laugh And hold on, was that an edit? I wanted to just double check. You said that was an edit?

No. No, I did not edit it. What was your edit going to be? Oh, it was going to be, I was, I'd spent a lot of time putting the word before Fanny. You know, like, Fast Fanny. Oh, yes. Running Fanny. And then I was like, I just do Fanny runs.

Fannie runs. And I got it. I got what I needed from it. Hey, you take that point. And you weren't it. Thank you. You weren't it without the edit. And that means, Chaz and Claire, are both correct.

Is the flying housewife? Oh, so patronising. Do you know what's difficult about this is that sometimes the answers are so clearly the answer or good that I'm like the house wrote it. Do you know what I mean? They're just so good at it. I'm like, oh, the question writer wrote it because I'm like, you had time to think about this, you know? You've picked the question. Yeah.

Yeah. It's clever. But sometimes it's just the way the world is, you know. Oh, man. Things have gotten real tight with two rounds ago. Lena and the house on three points about in front on four points apiece. It's Chaz and Claire. Oh.

Big round for Claire. Well, done. Why? Oh, that one. Yeah. Well, you got two of the three points. Why? Thank you.

What do you mean by that? What are you saying? I just say now to do you just have a good run. You're having the guy? He's complimenting you. Okay. Question five comes from Alex Lloyd from Croydon in the UK. And the question is, on the 11th of April 2004, Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson hosted the Nick

and Jessica Variety Hour on American TV. What happened in the third segment? So Nicholas Shane, Jessica Simpson held an old school variety hour show on American TV in April of 2004. What happened in the third segment? While you're writing her answers, here's some more info about the Flying Housewife.

Kendra writes, she won gold in the 100 metres, 200 metres, 80 metre hurdles and 4 by 100 metre relay and was a 30-year-old mother of two, which earned her the nickname the Flying Housewife. In 1999, she was voted female athlete of the century by the International Association of Athletics Federations and her Olympic victories accredited with helping to eliminate the belief

that age and motherhood were barriers to success in women's sport. The answers are in for question number five. On the 11th of April 2004, Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson hosted the Nick and Jessica Variety Hour on American TV. What happened in the third segment? Here are your options. Oh my God. They held a chicken and tuna blind taste test.

Mm-hmm. That's good. Nick Lechay sang a duet with Kit from Knight Rider, the car. Oh my God. The backdrop fell apart, which was played off as a pre-planned skit, but was later admitted that it was due to poor design. Oh. Option four.

Jessica audibly farted. Oh, come on. Option five. President George W. Bush read a book titled The Pet Goat to Nick and Jessica who dressed as children. Well, finally, to celebrate guest Nicole Ritchie's recent engagement, Nick Lachey dressed as a fireman and performed a dance for her where he stripped down to shorts. It's just dawning on me how crazy America is that all of those felt real. They all felt so good, didn't they?

Yeah, yeah. This is, you three knew the assignment here, I think. And, yeah, all right, Chaz, what do you reckon? What year was this again? This is 2004? 2004. 2004, okay. I reckon I'm tossing up between the fireman serenade and the set falling apart.

I am, oh, look, it's just a coin toss. I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, fireman. Fireman. Once again, this is my fantasy. This is a bit of what I want. Later, what do you reckon? I'm torn between like the absurdity of what an American production would pre-plan, which is a lot of those options are like getting bush to, you know,

like that is like, that is the absurd thing that I wouldn't put past a production department. But I also know that the saving face of it all. So it feels like the backdrop thing is a possibility. It's really hard. I'm going to go with the backdrop and, yeah, falling apart. It does. That does sound good, doesn't it? Yeah.

Do you mind reading the first one to me again? Sure. They held a chicken and tuna blind taste test. I mean, why is that even in the list? Well, oh, so you don't know? You don't know? Yeah, those. You don't know.

It's iconic. Was it something like she thought... Excuse me, please, this is the one thing I know. Okay. So she was in the first season of their reality show of them living together. She was eating... She was eating... Oh, maybe I don't know it as well as I thought.

She was eating chicken. And she said, is this tuna or is this chicken? And then she asked if chicken was fish. Oh, she just... It was so absurd. Yes. And it became a meme. It was one of the first like memes.

And I think it was someone about maybe someone had called Tuna the Chicken of the Sea. That's right. That's what it said on the packaging. It said the chicken of the sea. And she was like, is this chicken or is this tuna? Yep. She was eating tuna.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean, I, I. The chicken of the sea. I remembered. Yeah.

Like this was a vague memory. I think it really put them on the map in Australia. It did. And she kind of got bullied for it for a long time. And that. This is her owning. it. Yeah. It feels, yeah. Yes. Um, okay. Oh, oh, no. Okay.

It was alright. Uh, well, you think I could. Oh, I can't even remember them all. There's a fart. I want it to be that. I really want it to be the fart as well. I want it to, everyone wants to be the fart. Um, you know, H. John Benjamin? He was one of the riders on this, which is wild. That's what? Hang on. Is that the Archer voice? Uh, yeah. And Bob's Burger. And the Bob's burgers. And the Bob's That's wild. And he's in like wet hot American summer, I think. That actually doesn't surprise me that much because it just feels like the kind of gig you'd take as a comedy writer.

Like if I got offered, hey, do you want to write segments? Oh, I'd be like put me in coach. Yeah. Man, it is all. Far out. Yes, I'm so sorry. Chicken and tuna. Duet with Kit the Car.

Oh, yeah. We've got about that one. That's a great one. Set fell apart. Jessica orably farted George W. Bush read a book. Put me down for the fart. I don't care.

Sorry, I want to change to Night Rider. I want to change to the cart. Okay. Yeah. All right. I just want to give love to every single one of those answers. They're really good. Yeah.

So Claire went for the fart. Okay, well, all right. And Chaz. Oh, yeah, the fireman. All right. Here's who wrote the answers. Okay. The chicken and tuna blind taste test.

It's amazing. and knew so much about this, as Lena wrote that one. Yeah. I was really trying to sell it. I was trying to take it off your hands so that you wouldn't have to do it yourself and you're like, I got this. Yeah, I didn't realize that it would kind of tank it. But also, I actually realized as you're reading them out,

I was like, that was too normal. What I pitched was normal compared to what happened next, you know? Point for acting. Come on, I was totally sold. Yeah. That's the least performance there. Totally. Thank you.

I tried to do a bit of chas baiting with the George W. Bush one, but you probably, because that is the book he was reading when 9-11 was announced. But obviously three years later, no, and three years later it was probably a little sensitive. Yeah, something tells me if they came to George Bush with that proposal, he would say, yeah, I might pass. All right. The backdrop falling apart. Lena almost went for her.

That was the house. It was very good. Well, well done avoiding that one. Jessica audibly farting. I'm so sorry to break the bubble. That was Chas. It was really,

you know what, though? That was one where I'm like, it absolutely isn't the answer. I must vote for it. Now, Chaz returned the favour because he went for Claire. about the fireman dance. That was beautiful.

Thank you. Did I get it? And that means Lena. You can fantasize about that. You can fantasize about Jessica farting. Yeah, that's true. That means that Lena's late change was correct.

It was Nick Clashay sang a duet with Kit the car. Wait, how is that not just like in my TikTok feed all the time? I know. I couldn't believe when I read it. It's on YouTube. There's only the whole episode, the whole specials on YouTube. And it's only had 11. thousand views.

I feel like that should be doing the rounds every time a love is blind season comes out. Like as soon as Nick Lachey's back in the zeitgeist for that period, because he's the host, we should be getting... Sorry, this is how my brain works. I'm aware where's all the Nick Lachet stuff. Okay, I'm going to go home and watch that, I think. Yeah, I skimmed through most of it last night. Yeah.

And it's like, it's not great, but it's better than I thought it was going to be. The car is singing. Yeah. Great. H they're going to look at it soon as we finish recording H John Benjamin does this ad sketch where it's Nicola Shaves and he's like he's cutting himself shaving

and then you don't need to shave when you can Nicola shave it's actually just Nicolet She coming to your house and shaving you and then it's a sketch of Yeah it goes for a few minutes That sounds incredibly like the last thing you think of Before falling asleep And he's got it made

Yeah Yeah he's like He wrote that down and didn't just fall asleep. But also the Knight Rider thing now hearing that H. John Benjamin wrote on that, it does feel like something that a dude like him would pitch. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've been in writers' rooms.

It probably would have happened when just the station they were doing it for would have had the car and storage out of the back. He's like, can we have that? Yeah, yeah. I feel like we shouldn't just bustle past what you just drop. then Matt, when you said that that Nicola Shave sketch went for a few minutes. I'm not interested in the second beat and the third beat and the fourth beat. Well, I think the final tag was now including Nicola Shaves for women and it's like him shaving a woman's legs by a pool. Okay.

And the crowd went well for that from memory. Right. Okay. So that's in the special? That's in the show. Okay. Didn't you have to say. There was a one-off.

Can you remind me what the special was for? I was just them doing like a throwback to Sunny and Share style. Okay. Apparently it was big in America in the 70s, I think. You know what? I wish we had more. I wish we had, did variety specials. I love variety. I love them. Yeah. I wish we had them here more. Yeah, I thought. I reckon it was fun.

I love that. Yeah. Yeah. As someone who is a little bit older than you guys, and I remember when Australia did have those kinds of specials. Oh. Let me tell you don't. But like, think about if we did one now. If we did one with a little bit of them. all the like cool sketch people and you know, all right, I'll do it. Who'd be the celebrity couple hosting? Ed Owen and Lloyd.

That's great. That would be really good. That would be highly watchable. Yeah. Chaz, can you make some calls? Yeah, sure. I'll make that immediately. Everyone takes my calls in the TV.

We're up to the final question. We normally finish with a movie. plot synopsis, but we're doing a different one this time. It's a video game synopsis. So the question, oh no, you might, if you know it, Lena, just play like you don't know it. So the question comes from CJ Tor from Chicago, and the question is, what is the plot slash gameplay of the video game, The Longing? Just a sentence or two? What is the plot slash gameplay of the video game, the longing? Yeah, it doesn't have to be long. Just a sentence or two.

What's that game about? And while your answer being written, I'll let the listeners know a bit more about the Nick and Jessica Variety Hour. The show's blurb reads, America's favorite young married couple, Nick Lashay and Jessica Simpson, multi-platiner mildness, known for their hit MTV series newlyweds,

star in their first ever television special, featuring a fun-filled variety hour of music and comedy. In a throwback to the days of Sunni and Laughing, the beloved Nick and Jessica breathed new life into the variety format, showcasing their singing and comedic talents in a series of sketches and musical performances with such guests as Jewel, Kenneth Babyface Edmonds, Kenny Rogers, baseball Hall of Fame star Johnny Bench, Mr. T, and Muppets, including Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy.

According to Alex, whether or not it was any good you can decide for yourself as it's all on YouTube. A highlight is when a stagehand runs out to put a microphone in front of Kit just as the song starts. A positive letterbox review from a user called Just Rich, No Trash reads, this is exactly what the title says it is. Nick and Jessica do skits that are actually pretty damn funny. Saying Mr. T telling Nick, give me some sugar, that was worth the dollar 25 I paid a dollar tree.

Then Jewel does a duet with Jessica singing who will save your soul. And it is absolutely perfect. Not to be out done, Nick sings just the two of us with Kit, the car from Night Rider. Amazing. I won't spoil the rest of this special, but this fills the quota of zany goofiness that I need in my life. But I'll give you the other end of the spectrum. A couple of quick negative reviews. User JC 230 writes, The things I watch for baby face. This was fine as these things go. Wild at H. John Benjamin did voiceover and wrote for this. The 2000s were a different time where a couple like this could get an hour of television. And Maeve Gart writes,

What hath God wrought? All right. Final question. This is for triple points and things are tight. Oh, no. I had enough trouble without knowing that. Your equal leader at the moment, Chas on five points,

leaners on four, house on three. Here's the final question. What is the plot slash gameplay of the longing? Prow the Transylvanian forest at midnight as a vampire wolf, drinking the blood of small animals. But only that of a vivant. village's baby will truly quench the longing.

Second one. You're a servant in an underground kingdom and must wait for your king to wake from his long hibernation. In that time, you may explore caves, read books, decorate your room and perform other simple tasks to wait out the 400 days in real time before you can wake up your king. Option three. A story focused on thriller slash horror. and survival set in the Appalachian Mountains. You play as Tony, a 35-year-old man, taking a mental health hike after a marriage-ending

argument with his wife Patricia. Upon trying to return home, the Appalachian Woods begin to warp Tony's sense of time and space, forcing him to find new ways to survive and search his soul about the deterioration of his relationship. It's option three. Option four, you're a poet who must compose a letter for your beloved. The problem is you may only. right about things you've seen.

So you must go around the world and observe flowers, rainbows and love birds so you may include them in your verse. Oh, wowie. Well, finally, you conduct an illicit affair for as long as possible without getting caught. It has become controversial because of the realism of the sex scenes. Okay. Oh, my God.

Lena, what do you reckon? This is really hard. This is so hard. These all feel very belitt. And games, like, it's changed recently, hasn't it? that they're like kind of high concept. They are. Because I,

my favorite genre of game at the moment is published by, usually by a company called Anna Perna. And they do what I call, like the craft beer brewery of gaming, which is sort of like, all the stories are about like couples who listen to records breaking up and like, you know,

like mum's dying and stuff. But they're like great story. And, you know, so it's like, it feels like so. many of these could be that. But then you get into like the sort of territory of like the dungeon crawling like yeah, it's that, that a lot of these feel really, um, realistic. And I mean, I really like the wolf one, but I don't think it's right. I just think it's a smart. What, you take on it?

Would it be too full on for a, a game to have the baby blood? No. No. No. It is like, because there's a few horror, horrific ones. Yeah, that one feels horror. And that's part of the genre. Yeah. But also it just feels like, I don't know. I don't know, you get desensitized into concepts through a video game. So this is challenging. What was the love letter one? You're a poet who must compose a letter to your beloved, but you can only write about things you've seen.

That sounds like a sick game. And I've played games like that where you kind of, like I played a game that was literally scrapbooking. And the words float up out of the object and they join the rest of your verse. It's a kind of semi-cozy game that you'd probably play on Switch. Like I feel like I can. Oh, it's absolutely a switch game. Yeah, yeah.

This is hard. What was the last one? The one about an illicit affair, and you try not to get caught. Yeah. I'm going to go, look, I don't know if it's right, but I really like just the take on the poet one, so I'm going to go with that.

I feel like I'm really risking my gamer cred here, because I don't know it. I think I've heard of the title, but I don't know. There'd be so many games. There's so many games. games. Yeah. Anyway, I hope someone makes that one if it isn't it? Claire, what do you think? Yeah, that's right. I mean, that was a good pitch. I was also thinking the poetry one just because I could actually see. And, you know, like it just feels like something, it feels like

one of those concept games. The part of my problem was I was trying to, I don't know Chas well enough to guess his answers, except they're always the ones that I want to answer. So that's all I know about you is you are right the ones i'm going to guess um and i was like trying to work out late i was like well the appellation mountain one it's compelling because nobody would voluntarily try and spell appellation without the help of the internet right so i'm like but then also it sounded too much like fire watch which is an actual game oh and then the ridiculous one about waiting for your king to wake it's so stupid that i'm like well maybe that's the one but i'm I'm just going to go in on the, I'm so sorry, Lena.

I'm going to piggyback on there. I'm going to choose poetry. Poetry? All right. Locked in. Kind of with Lena and the, the wolf one sounds right, but then it sounds like the kind of thing someone make up because it sounds so right. That's a funny loop to get into it.

Isn't it? I think it sounds right, so it must be wrong. Exactly. Yeah, I like, you know what? I am going to embrace where I've been going the whole time and going with what I want, rather than what is necessary, right or wrong. And what I want is that really weird game about the king. That's what I want.

So I'm going to go for that. All right. Here's who wrote the answers. This is going to be fun. The one about eliciting, having an illicit affair, I should say. That was Chaz. One of the rare ones that Claire avoided Chaz's answer. Amazing.

The one about the Appalachian Mountains, Claire correctly guessed that was Lena. Yeah, you got me. It was inspired by Firewatch. It was inspired by, yeah. I was like, oh, maybe I'm being really smart here, and I can do a Firewatch take. But I'll, you know, I was like, it's definitely made by the same developers. If not. Okay, that's exciting.

That makes me feel good. I'm like, at least I can get the tone of. A fire watch game, yeah The one that Chaz and Lina both thought sounded too real to be true somewhere About the vampire wolf, that was Claire

And you reckon it should be a game No, I just, I've just played It just feels like a dumb game I'm playing Valheim at the moment And it's, I'm a Viking And I'm killing trolls and like Raths and stuff And I was like, oh, it does kind of feel

Yeah, I just put the baby in to make it noteworthy, you know. I mean, it is a pretty full on idea. Yeah, sorry everyone. No, but it makes sense. Relax. I just, this is how I relax. I'm just trying to get the baby. And me, I mean, it just, you can, the problem is, is like, it's the thing we're talking

about Colts. Like, you start doing the logic of it. Like, well, yeah, that would be the rarest blood. So I can see why the wolf would be longing for it. It's the freshest blood you can get. It would be the hardest one to get. Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah.

All right. Well, so the two left, you've got the poet and the king. And I should say that CJ who wrote the question, he said he works in gaming. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So his fake answer was very believable, apparently, because some of you guessed it. It was the poet one, he wrote. Well, it was a good sound in game.

C.J. make it. Holy molly. Is it the silly king one? It is. That makes sense. Outrageous. The detail of exactly 400 days. Yeah, that does sound like it.

Yeah. That's good. You can play it. That's awesome. You're getting your wish. The longing. 400 days in real time. Does that mean when you're not playing?

Just that weird servanty thing of like imagining, oh, you must be so desperate to serve your king. You can't wait for your king to wake up, you poor little peasant just grub underground, find things to do while you wait for my... You know what I, like it's so sad. This is what CJ said about. He said the longing is known as a cozy video game,

which are known for simple, pleasant task in an interesting and fantastic a world, many of which have interesting narrative secrets. This game does feature a timer that actually counts down 400 days, and once the timer goes off, you can choose to wake up the king, let him sleep, or leave the caverns early.

Oh, that rules. I'm going to play it. Play it is, what are you going to do? I'm going to stream it. Because, like, it's, yeah, for sure. Like, I wouldn't put it past me. I played a game last year called Blueprints, which my favorite thing about this game is if you go on Steam and you read all the reviews, every negative review is like, oh, this game's the worst 200 hours played. Because it is one of those games that, like, it ruined my life for three months and myself and my ability to talk to anyone because it was one of the best games I've ever played.

But if I ever meet the developer, I will punch him in the throat. And so that's kind of where I'm at with gaming. So it feels like something like that. I'm like, well, child's play. 400 real days, please. I'm really excited about that playing for 400 days because I figure at the end of that 400th day, I will have forgotten some of the things I've been reading.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Wonderful. You'll start thinking of the king as Trump. Do I wake him? Before I give final scores, Chad's where can people find you? you can you can find us uh you can find me on on twitter the uh the i've got like

a million accounts chaz lujez underscoring at u s a pep chaz at pep chaz d a v e pep chaz dr dave and uh just got a plant pep youtube channel we got all the planet america stuff and my podcast stuff which goes for like 12 hours much like that game actually my podcast is like the American politics equivalent of that game. So you can find it there. Planet Pet. Awesome. And Lena? I'm on Instagram at Lena I-moon, which is where I post all my

tour stuff. But I'm on Twitch. I do stream. So I'm just backslash L-E-N-A-Moon on Twitch. So Twitch or TV slash Lina-Moon. So I'm getting back on there now that the tour is slowing down. So yeah, if you like video games and you want to watch someone play them poorly,

that's what I do. Possibly playing the longing coming up. I'm kind of, maybe I will. Yeah, I wouldn't put it past me. We've watched a guy ruin a stew on my stream. Ruined a stew. Yeah, this guy's doing a perpetual stew, but it's like he's made a biohazard. And we watched that for like four and a half hours.

So, you know, sometimes it's just about hanging out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Claire? Where can people catch me? The Claire Hooper on Instagram is probably the best place. Because I've got shows happening around the country a little bit over the next few weeks. Lots of things. I'd love people to come out and see.

Awesome. All right. So final score, check time. We know. It all came down that final round. In fourth place, doing really well, I'd say, on four points. It's Lena Moon. Thank you so much.

And two of those points are pity points. Oh, yeah, that's right. Claire stopped to ask you for pity points, can you? I noticed as soon as it heated up into the, as soon as Claire realized that maybe show score was not the first one. Well, look, if you'd put more giraffe, I would have known what to point towards. I can't believe you got the Firewatch one.

That is... I'm pretty impressed by myself. Yeah, that was really good. In equals second place, just one point ahead on five points apiece. It's clear on the house. Yeah, that'll do. Meaning out in front with that big triple points

of the last round for getting the correct answer. On eight points, it's Chaslett-Jadello. Oh, but if I'd gotten used with the wolf... Oh, if I find it. I got this guy. Twice I was so close. I know. I thought they were both about to say I'm going back to that, but really ziggin and zagging. Playing with your emotions, I thought. Yeah, that hurt.

I felt cruel. Felt me. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks so much everyone for listening. Give us a five story. Why not tell your friends if you think you know anyone who might enjoy it. And cheers for tuning in to who knew with Matt Stewart. Now that you know it, I'll be Matt Stewart.

Goodbye. I want to say something to you to you. you before we start. Hello. Hello, Claire. Hi there. Hi. I have a, I wonder if you share my frustration on this.

Like you might be the only person on earth who shares this frustration. Okay, hit me. I'm a person who likes to multitask when I work. So while I'm reading, while I'm writing, so forth, I often have something on YouTube going at the same time, a little corner of the screen. If there's no sport, it will usually be some kind of game show or something like that, just going in the background, right? You can probably see where this is going.

Okay, so one of my favorite shows to have in the background is House of Games. And the English run is all up there. Like they've got like literally, I actually know 150 episodes up there online. Recording in progress. So I just have it in the corner there. And after a while, I was listening to, I was just, I was just, I listened to it. I really enjoyed it. And I thought, they're very slow.

The responses are extremely slow. This is strange. So I look up, I look up on Reddit or whatever, are the buzzers delayed on House of Games? And sure enough, there's a podcast where the fellow saying, yeah, we actually have to delay the buzzers. The celebrities all go way too fast all the time, and they go over the top of my question.

And it's just terrible viewing. so we delay the buzzer. But there is one place where they don't delay the buzzer, and that's Australia. I thought, well, that's interesting. So then I was, you guys obviously don't have your stuff up on YouTube, you on my eye view, but YouTube's easier for me. Anyway, so I was having a look to see how it worked.

And I couldn't help noticing. Charlie Pickering, when he was on your show, was buzzing before you even began the question, knowing that the questions are usually, not terribly hard, and he had a pretty good chance of getting a right after the questions delivered entirely to him alone, because he's already buzzed. And I thought to myself, if I was Claire Hooper, I would be fucking pissed off at destroying the show by constantly just removing all competition and just buzzing before anyone even, because

the way it's designed, you then have to read the whole question to him alone. Does that annoying you? Producers had a word to him and some other players who wanted to play, that so they have had so they but but of course then for something like someone like you you're like I'm not watching the rest of this week because this is really fucking annoying but actually yeah after one app like that or maybe two in the case of Charlie producers come up and they say you're gonna have to wait um it's really nice though like some people like Dilruk you could see he'd know it really quickly and you could see his hand twitch over the buzzer and he would like

you could see him actively playing the like we're making a show it's not all about me winning, but some people didn't have that ability. I can't believe, because we had the, we had the lovely game engine guy over from the UK helping them set it up, and I cannot believe he didn't give them the tip of delay the buzzers. Like, so you're still going to have them, but you're still going to have the first person to come in light up first. But like just the, like a two-second delay would have made a massive difference there.

Yeah. Anyway. Next season. But also, I think I only enjoyed that show because I've got a lot of forgiveness for my, for my, for my, um, poor performing friends. You know, like my friend, when I see my friends be competitive in a way that ruins the game, I still love them. Um, you are.

I can see how it would be really irritating, but I was like, this silly guy, he just cares so much. Yeah, that's so funny. No control. And the other person, the other person I feel, felt sorry for it was Dave O'Neill who was on the same game and all he wanted to do was make jokes he literally was just buzzing in to get wrong and but he couldn't buzz into make jokes because Charlie Pickering was buzzing in first to try and show him on how bright he was. We already know Charlie.

We knew he was smart. He didn't, yeah. Yeah, it's a funny. Oh, well, the good news is there's no season two. Oh, that's not good news. I was just saying to the guy, sweet. out of the Portuguese start place. I just went.

I'm so sorry, we've got to get started. I just bought my coffee from there, and he was like, oh yeah, my partner wanted me to ask you if there's going to be a season two. The hardest bit of the entire job, the job was so fun, I loved it so much. And the hardest bit has been constantly informing members of the public that there will be no season two.

Like, that's the drag. He's like, oh, no, I'm, unfortunately. That's my whole career. I just like also. At least you have the knowledge, I assume you have this. Oh, yeah. Nobody ever told me. The reason there's no season two is because there's never going to be a season two.

It's because it was never going to be made for budgeting reasons. Yeah. I love how the government is how we make TV. I think it's good. I think it's really good. Yeah. I think it's really good. I think it makes things make sense.

People deciding based on numbers on a page. Yeah. But I actually reckon. I reckon it is good to have offerings from the corporates, you know, like businesses that are set up to make entertainment. It is good that there is an alt offering from a government body for all its flaws, because it does mean some people who are never going to be bankable might have a shot. They don't. They don't.

Actually, they don't. But, like, in theory, in theory, diversifying the makers is a good idea. Yeah. And we don't have enough, like, really eccentric, rich people here, like in America who do just. funned stuff. Like that's how stuff gets made. We don't have really crazy, really rich people,

except for David Walsh and he just built. Yeah. Didn't Clark Palmer want to make a second Titanic? Oh, so true. You're right. I'll take it back. We have important people here doing important things. I've just remembered how bad I am at this game.

There's no bad. See, this is the thing. We just heard about it. about it. You better be a Dave O'Neill. No, I am. I am every time. Yeah.

But the last time I did it, Surin and Andy were both like, Lena. Come on. From Seren, that is rich. Yeah, because he also tries to, like, be silly. We got him to,

we challenged him to take it seriously one week, and he won by a long margin. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me either. Because he normally just writes pure joke answers and callbacks and stuff. Oh, I love him so much. I wish I were that cool. You could have told me that, Matt, before I filmed.

No, you're looking real. No, well, I just, I mean, I say that. It doesn't have to be. They don't all go out. Bad episodes in the past where people are like, I'd prefer not to be, can this be an audio one? I mean, that's what a podcast were designed to be. It's good.

If people want to know how I spend 22 hours a day reading news, this is the state in which I am. Do you have to do something to offset it? Like, do you just have to go, do you have like a cat you stare at or like just something that kind of is the antithesis of Twitter that you can, you know? Well, actually, if I just move my head,

you can see I like the dirty chin-ups. Okay, that, yeah, I actually do think exercise is the antithesis of Twitter. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Every hour or two, I just do like 10 repetitions of some kind of exercise. And it convinces me that I'm fit.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you do that one where your feet are over the bar and you do like sit-ups with your, no, do you hang upside down like Batman? Oh no, no, no, no. I don't do that. Although I do do everything else that Batman does. That makes sense.

Just not the hanging upside down from all the vigilante stuff. I do all that stuff. Yeah, that stuff I do. Yeah, talking in a low whisper a lot, hanging out with a really plucky dude. named Robin. Oh, you were thinking, see, I was thinking of the butler. I was thinking of Michael Kane. Oh, okay.

Yeah, no, I went for Robin. I love a small man who's excited, I guess. Everybody needs a small man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah, crime. I should have asked this at the start, but Matsiel, would you like, are you talking scientific name or are you talking common name of this? Common name.

Oh, thank God. Yeah. Okay. God. That could have been awful. I'm feeling really good about this one, you guys. You've gone common. I just want everyone to know that I feel really good about this one.

I know, I've seen it, and you should. Thank you. It's just amazing. All of a sudden, yeah, you've changed your strategy this week. No, I haven't. I'm playing hard. I'm playing hard. That's what I said.

Oh, no, yeah, yeah, sorry, yes. Yeah, I mean, it's just a, it's a strange name for a frog. Yeah. Yeah, really is. It's like, I don't know, it's bizarre. I can't, it's going to trouble me all night, I reckon. How many do you think about going to bed? I think there's something in the translation.

You know, like, palava, I think there's, there might be some nuance to the word palava. And so it doesn't mean, it doesn't exactly mean problem, like problem child. it might mean more like nuisance. Yeah. And so it is just there. Like it's understood that when the frog, if you got a frog outside your house with that particular squeak, you're not sleeping that.

True. So like it, I think it might be a translation. I reckon that makes a lot of sense. Very, very empathetic answer, clear. I like that. That's lovely. I feel like you're bullying me for being nice.

No, I'm not. Because I did what people do on the internet do and just took it personally. Yeah. Right? I heard the problem thing and I got mad. It's because you've been reading your school reports. It is. Yeah, I'm regressing.

You're really triggered by the word problem. Yeah, okay, yeah, it is in there a lot. Like, I reckon if I did one of those like word counts, we search it and see, be like, well, I think there's a problem with talking too much. I mean, has a problem with focus. Oh, God. How did they not know? How did I get diagnosed at 28?

That's crazy. Lane, I need your attention over here. Sorry, yep. And I can just stop talking so you can concentrate if you like. Oh, okay. Cool. Oh, I mean, we can keep talking if you want to. Actually, it's like, oh, another edit from Lena.

The first one didn't feel very good. I quite liked it, but yeah. I liked it, yeah. I think this one's maybe more guessable, but the other one was also fantastic. Yeah, we'll talk about it later. All right. Oh, my goodness. What?

I don't know, maybe. I can't read the emotion on Matt's face right now. No, I'm just being, I've been tickled by all of these answers. Well, nicknames that could kind of be anything, you know? True. Yeah. Who's to say people didn't call it that? Yeah, I think I might have come up with a better one.

Oh, yeah, do it? Nah. You can edit. Did you know you can edit messages? Yeah. I have edited. I've edited some of mine. I'm going to stick with it.

It's a bit of fun, don't worry about it. Yeah, I mean, yours may, I enjoyed it. All right, Sue. You much of a game, a Chaz? I used to be, these days I just do nothing except for work, so I don't really have the time. But I do, I do play a bit, I do play sort of phone games as well. a little bit not uh i'm kind of hoping that my daughter gets me back into it because she i'm expecting her to it's kind of her job to introduce me yeah yeah i kind of went through a

period of about two or three years where i was a bit obsessed with on my phone with gench and impact but um i'm now of return to where i started which is poker so um all right oh phone poker phone poker yeah yeah it's uh it's um but yeah i do i do i do i do i impartial to it. I kind of, yeah, I've kind of got that, um, that's an aspy edge that I sort of, like those repetitive, not, not the sort of more modern games, more repetitive kind of games. There's sort of the classic, you know, like your Tetris or your flight control, like those kinds of guys where you just do the same thing over and over again, because they're and faster and faster until you and bank can't do it. That, that, that, they're the ones I'm really

good at. Right. I had a flight control mug, because at one point in time, I was ranked four in the world in flight control. What? Yes. Yes. That's like my style. Fourth in the world, that's crazy. Flight control?

Flight control. It's a game from about 15 years ago where you're landing planes. Yeah, yeah. You're not, it's not flight sim. You're in the tower. I love that. No, you're in the tower. Yeah, great.

And yeah, and to be fourth in the world to flight control, I had to play, and I did play in one sitting for like 14 hours. Yeah, come on. Bit me there. Don't talk to me until you've played 24 hours straight of a game to raise money for a comedy tour. You really start to really start to wonder who you are after about. I play a game called Ano-1800 or Ano-117 and it's a very, very, very, very slow city builder with a very delicate economy. It's very nerdy.

But every two hours a voice comes in and is like, Hey, you've, you've been playing for two hours. Like, I reckon you should stop. When the game's telling you. Yeah. And when you get to, when you get to 12 hours, he goes, turn the game off now. Please.

A hand emerges from the team. So funny. Yeah. Oh my. No, you go. No, you go. Oh, they just start to worry about you. Okay.

That's going to say, yeah. That's kind of sweet. I thought that's kind of, or is it that they're like, don't finish the game too quick. No, no. It's a sympathetic game dev kill switch, I think. Love it. Yeah.

All right. Well, and Claire, you ever in the games? Gaming? Yeah, occasionally. Thanks for asking. I have no interesting stories. No, that's all I'm just said. All three of you have an interest here.

We've discussed games before. Yeah, we've discussed games. I don't. I look forward to a day when I return to gaming in a more committed fashion, but it is really time consuming and I have children. and also have a real tendency to lock in and only think about it. You know, like I'll be watching a TV show and the pieces of the game are floating in at the edges or whatever I'm watching.

That's how deep I like to go and I cannot afford to do that at the moment. Proud the Transylvanian Forest at midnight as a vampire wolf drinking the blood of small animals and... Sorry, I'm not good at reading. I'll go again. Pral the Transylvanianist. Oh no. And this often happens when I get towards the end of the game.

I'm like, I can't. I can't read the words anymore. Growing up in the hair out, Chas. Yeah, yeah. No, I, for the last that 15 years, ABC makeup have been drilling me. to keep my hair short because it makes it easier for them. Right. It's just all about them.

And I just thought, you know what? I'm getting very close to the age, or I'm not going to have hair anymore. So I might as well grow it while I can. So I'm having to go. Oh, it's looking good. Every single week, every single week when I walk into the makeup room, there's rolled eyes, there's passive aggression,

there's heavy size. They hate it. I think you've got what you'd call a shock of hair now. I do. I do. I do. I do. It does.

It would have a bif font. Oh, I'm also, I'm also sort of culturing the Cruella Deville white streak as well. Oh, a bit of Mr. Sheffield. Yeah, a bit of Mr. Sheffield, yes. If only it was as attractive as Mr. Sheffield, but no, sadly, there are no nannies who, not a piece of milk, I'm afraid. We were talking about the baker episode. Was it, was it you, when you went to America, you tried a different donut every day

or something like that? No, I'm misremembering it slightly. Yeah, you are a little bit. Look, I mean, I've got so many fast food stories. That's just kind of my thing. But I think what you're referring to was when I went on my honeymoon, my wife, she got food poisoning on the first day. And so she just stayed in the hotel.

And I instead decide to try every single bird. burger joint. Burgers, yes. The other round food. Just walked around Manhattan all day and all night eating burgers. And then I'd wake up at like 5 a.m. because I had jet lag and I would just go on a treadmill for like two hours and then spend the whole day eating burgers with them.

It was very romantic. My ex did the same thing when we traveled through America. He was determined to eat every burger from every burger place. and he also started a hashtag called Lena Eats and it was just pictures of me eating and I was like this, I guess it's an even playing field if he's doing it with the burgers

and I'm, he's, I don't know, I don't know. And you were away he was taking my husband. Yeah, but it was often because we were going, you're traveling so we were just drinking all the time. So it was a lot of me just like eating mac and cheese with my hands on the subway and stuff. At least you're doing it together. Yeah, that's right.

At least we were together. My wife was vomiting. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. I mean, I suppose we're working together. Yeah. Oh, yeah, she was mom. That's right.

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