Who Shat On The Floor At My Wedding? And Other Crimes - S3 E8 Doggy Bag - Part Two

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Just as Detective LK and KW thought they were closing in on the truth, one shocking revelation blows the whole case wide open.Confusion mounts, new leads emerge, and a tender goodbye is said to Joao, ...the four legged creature at the heart of the story.Buckle up for the ride - the mystery of this canine's demise is far from over.The next case opens on November 6th. Follow us on Instagram @whoshatontheflooratmywedding for case evidence and behind-the-scenes.
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Starting point is 00:00:00 Previously on Doggy Bag. There's this couple. They wanted to go to Paris. It all started with five Dutch women and a story. She had booked the tickets to go to Paris by train with her husband. A story they claimed to be 100% true because they were only two handshakes away from the source. But it was extremely expensive because it was like the week before the Olympics. have a dog. It's a Portuguese stray dog. So he wanted to bring the dog to the doggy daycare,
Starting point is 00:00:36 but then their dog was sick. And the people there were like, your dog is a bit sick. We don't actually want him in here because it's going to make other dogs ill as well. Well, the dog isn't that sick. Let's just take him to Paris. Why not? I mean, what can happen? So they arrived in Paris, went for a big walk with the dog, and they got to the Chant-de-Lise. Brands stores of Louis Vuitton and Gucci and Chanel. In front of the door of the louis, Louis Vuitton shop. The dog dies. The dog just died.
Starting point is 00:01:05 The dog collapsed. The dog sneezed and fell dead to the ground. So they panic. Like, what the suck? What the hell should you do with a dead dog in Paris? And you're sad, and they were sad. So there was a little bit of chaos on the Champsidesz. There were other tourists and people around,
Starting point is 00:01:23 but there were also people coming out of the Louis Vuitton store that worked there, who were like, we don't really want a dead dog lying in front of. of our store. It's not a great look. So can you maybe move the dog? So the people of the Louis Vuitton shop said, okay, we can help. And they brought out a Louis Vuittal shopping bag and said, here, you can put the dog in it and take it with you. And they put this dog in the bag.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And they started walking again. And then suddenly there's this guy on a motorbike who is crossing them and he took the bag out of their hand. And steals the bag. the bag with the dead dog inside it and drives off. Yeah, that's the story. That's what happened to the colleague of a friend of mine. But with every new link in the chain, this story shifted.
Starting point is 00:02:12 The incident no longer became associated with the Paris Olympics. So not the Olympics. So not in the lead up to the Olympic. That's not a detail I heard of it. This is hilarious. Then we met Peter and Emma, number six and seven in the chain. sisters. That's when the story started changing dramatically. The dog, once a Portuguese rescue dog, were suddenly no longer Portuguese. And the couple who owned the dog were no longer
Starting point is 00:02:41 Dutch. The owner is not from the Netherlands. The owner is from London or something. They were British. What? The owner is from England. No! Oh my God. Oh my God. This is never going to stop. Next came Mario Line and she dropped another bomb. The couple were actually American. Can't believe they're from the US. I thought they were British.
Starting point is 00:03:11 This story is crossing three countries now. But she gave us a very important name, Tony. Tony's friends know what really happened. So we need to get access to them. Do you know what? Once it leaps country, I feel like Tony is going to be a weak link
Starting point is 00:03:31 in the actual details of this story and I feel like it's going to change quite dramatically when we change country. When are we going to stop? When are we going to go, right, that's enough everyone's having us on? Welcome to our brand new series when the cops say no, we say yes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 This is Detective Lauren Kilby We're supporting semi-live from our underground detective agency. I'm here with assistant to the detective, Karen Whitehouse. This season, we're launching the world's first speed-solving detective service. Each episode, we're going to take on a new non-crime crime submitted by one of our lovely listeners. We'll meet them, hear their story and present back our groundbreaking theories in an attempt to crack the case. Part detective show, part game show, part panicky race. This is when the cops say no
Starting point is 00:04:29 We say yes Welcome to Doggy Bag Part 2 In the last episode Karen and I made a bold decision that may or may not have major consequences We decided that we needed to secure the largest Louis Vuitton shopper bag
Starting point is 00:04:48 So that we could re-enact this crime And to see if a dog weighing at least seven kilos Could fit inside without breaking it There was only one way to do this. Infiltrate Louis Vuitton, wearing hidden mics concealed within our bow ties, and claim that Karen's imaginary daughter
Starting point is 00:05:07 is collecting luxury bags for a science project. What's my daughter called, and how old is she? They're not going to question you about your daughter's credentials. As we close in on Louis Vuitton, Karen reveals her secret weapon. I need to have a few bags at least. I need to have at least two other bags before I go into Louis Vuitton.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Bags? Yeah, from other shops. so it looks legit. No! We don't have time for that. Well at least one. Just try one. Let me try one.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Oh my God. What? Like I've got to help give myself the best chance for success. She will first obtain a bag from another luxury brand to establish her credibility and lend weight to her fabricated story. So I go into Armani? Amani? Oh my God. See you in there.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Hello. Karen infiltrates Armani with surgical points. with surgical precision. Oh, perfect. She gets the bag. It's a huge bag, but Karen doesn't exit quietly, not without singing the praises of her fictional daughter.
Starting point is 00:06:07 This could be a masterpiece in the Rokes Museum soon, I'm sure. Bag in hand, confidence radiating. Karen is ready for the final stop. Karen, that was fucking amazing. Or are you going to say this is similar to this? I'd love to grab another one. Okay, fine. That's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That actually works. That's the whole point. I understand. All right. Let's just relax. You did really well. Okay, yeah. Okay, I'm just going to do it really quickly.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm just charging. Charging heads. I see you in there. Hello. Hi. Oh, I have a question actually. My daughter, sorry. My daughter is doing a school art project and she's making clay sculptures.
Starting point is 00:06:45 She's 14. She's making clay sculptures out of like carrier bags like this. I'm wondering is it possible if I could have one of the carrier bags just? carrier bag, just so for she, because she wants to build a model of different types of bags. They try to offer her a very small bag. She's looking for big ones if possible. Thank you. Gemma's very grateful.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Thank you. Ah, amazing. Are they the biggest ones that you do? Sorry. Amazing, perfect. Thank you so much. That's the biggest one that you do. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I really appreciate it. Thank you. Look out for her exhibition in the Rikes Museum. It might take five years. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. She sent me out. I don't know why I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:28 She should, yeah. Where were you? Why did you take so long? I was browsing. I feel like there must be a bigger one than this. That's tiny. You could fit a dog in that though. That is not, that would not take Dolly.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yes, it would. Yeah, it would, maybe. There's a dog over there. Do you want to ask it? No. It's time to carry out the canine weight test with Karen's 10-kilo dog, Dolly. Come here, Dole.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Come here, Dole. Come here, dog. Good guy. That's it. Now, sit, I'm going to just lift you up to see if the bag will hold your weight. So, one, two, three. It's holding. Totally fine.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Dog weight test complete. The Louis Vuitton bag holds dogs up to 10 kilos. You can see a photo of Dolly in the Louis Vuitton bag on our Instagram page. At who chat on the floor at my wedding. Okay. This chain has got so much longer than we ever anticipated. We have, officially, I'm looking at our countdown clock, we've got 27 minutes left.
Starting point is 00:08:49 In that case, Karen, would you like to apply for an extra? extension to the crime solving time. I absolutely need to get to the bottom of this. We're going to have to just keep coming back to Doggy Bag, Part 1, Doggy Bag, Part 6. Part 1, part 2, part 3, part 6, part 100, part 1 million. So I agree, let's apply for an extension now. This is, we're using our extension, our first extension. Who do we apply to?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Ourselves. Okay, so brilliant. Okay, wait, extension granted. Brilliant. So how much longer have we got? As long as we need. It's time to get our hands on Tony. Hi Tony, I hope you're well.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I'm the producer of True Crime Comedy Podcast called Hooshart on the Floor on My Wedding and Other Crimes. The concepts that we as unqualified detectors attempt to solve bizarre or funny mystery. This is an email we sent to Tony yesterday. We're currently investigating a case in the Netherlands, which is a story involving a dog, the Louis Vuitton store on the Champalise, and a thief on a scooter. We spoke to Peter and Maryline, who told us this story and said you might be able to connect us with the owners of the dog. Our ambition was to try and find out what happened to the dog to try and get closure for the owners as it is a sad story and the dog deserves justice. From that point
Starting point is 00:09:57 onwards we have tried to track down the owners and we have unearthed a crazy chain of people who passed on the story and we believe we are getting that we are finally getting closer to the source and owners of the story. It's been completely bizarre as with every person we speak to the story has changed and we're beginning to wonder if it's even true anymore. Tony would you be willing to help us on this quest for the truth? We are praying for your help and assistance. Don't say praying Because I'm not praying We are hoping
Starting point is 00:10:26 We have a lot of hopes I wouldn't say we have a lot of hopes I do Fine, say it then Introducing Tony You're called Tony Cool, sure, whatever A man who is about to change
Starting point is 00:10:44 Everything What I hear it It's that this person a girl from the US went on holiday to Paris with their family
Starting point is 00:10:54 and they had been looking forward to it for quite a while and you know going to Paris going shopping Ival Tower eating baguettes
Starting point is 00:11:03 and croissants and whatever but they had this dog the dog was quite ill and they were already doubting like okay can we bring the dog or not
Starting point is 00:11:11 they wanted to and they went to the set and they said it should be fine and the dog survived the whole plane travel, they were walking over the Champs-Alicse, and they were in the Chanel store.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Literally in the door opening of the Chanel store, the dog started imploding, basically, and just died all of a sudden. So there was like a whole scene, and they were like crying and in terror, basically. At some point, a couple minutes later, this Chanel employee came up to them, and They were like, hey, it doesn't really work well for a store to have a dead dog here right in front of it. So this employee gave them a Chanel bag, a shopper, basically. So they were walking over street in Paris with the dead dog in the Chanel shopper. And what happened next is a guy drove along on a moped and grabbed the bag.
Starting point is 00:12:17 that's how they're that doc got stolen Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony I don't know how familiar you are with luxury goods and fashion but I really hope you're confused and you don't know the difference between Louis Vuitton and Chanel
Starting point is 00:12:38 please tell me you just got that wrong and you meant to say Louis Vuitton what I got was Chanel oh my God that's what I heard yeah Up until now, this has always been in the Louis Vuitton store. It's the only thing that has remained consistent, Tony. The only thing, and you have just broken the one red thread that we have with this entire crime. You, Tony. To the point where detective sent me undercover to go into the Louis Vuitton store to ask for their biggest bag
Starting point is 00:13:11 so we could do some weight tests to see what size of dog could have actually fit in that bad and been actually taken away without the bag breaking. I went through that whole exercise, but nothing. God, I cannot believe it is just gone. I was waiting for this moment. Everyone is lying to us. Everyone is fucking with us, Tony. Do you not understand?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, it's frustrating. Go to Paris, maybe. Ask the people in the store. I had to call Chanel. Yeah, no shit. Now we're going to call... No shit, Tony. We're going to call everything.
Starting point is 00:13:40 We're going to be just constantly on the phone to all the luxury shops. This is so bizarre. Oh, my. my god. So I'm going to tell you because because I got this from my friend Joanna and she actually told me this when we were in Paris together but it happened to a friend of her girlfriend and her girlfriend's from the US from New York. It apparently happened to a friend of the girlfriend. I worry that this is going to be a lot. We're going to go around the world with this one. So it's Joanna's girlfriend's friend. Yeah, yeah. So you're not that far away
Starting point is 00:14:21 anymore. Well, as a journalist, we're trying to track down the exact timings when you heard this story. Do you have a clear date of when you... I have a super specific date for you. I heard the story on January 27th last year, so 2024. And when Joanna told you this, did it seem like it was a very recent event? Or was this like a story from years ago? The story itself, it did seem quite recent. But then again, there was no mention of COVID measures or mouse masks. So maybe before 2020.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I don't know. Yeah, you've got to know, I'm a journalist myself. So I'm also trying to make links here. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It's actually very convenient. a lot of the people we're speaking to are, like, working radio or a journalist. There's also a slight hint of smugness because they're sort of enjoying us appreciating how difficult it is to actually get to the bottom of a story. They're like, yeah, good luck with that.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Would Joanna speak to us, do you think? Have you mentioned it to her? Yeah, so I did ask her twice. Let me just check my text conversation, whatever. Okay, wait. So we got Joanna. Yes. We got Joanna's girlfriend Joanna's girlfriend is called Virginia Then we got friend number one Yes
Starting point is 00:15:48 And then friend number two And then that's where we need to be So it's one handshake more than I Promise you, so we're for that Oh yeah Yeah Still in the US Not sure about New York
Starting point is 00:16:02 But I'm seeing her tomorrow actually I'm seeing Joanna tomorrow She's coming to the Netherlands So I'll ask her So Virginia's friend who lives in New York, and it's that person, that's friend one. So Virginia is from New York, and then friend number one and friend number 12, no idea about these people. I only know that they're American, I'm not sure if they're from New York. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:24 But surely Virginia wouldn't be lying to her girlfriend. No intentional lying, but misremembering is definitely a risk. But friend one and two are the couple that owned the dog that are friends with Virginia, right? No, they're not a couple. What I meant to say is that Virginia has a friend, and then it happened to a friend of that friend. Oh, yeah, okay. No, no, no, no. It's still fucked, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've got four more people to speak to, basically, and no clear line of sight still. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So we would like to know what you would like to personally say to the person that, let's say, made up this story. They've fabricated it, and you've been spreading the lie that they came up with many. years ago. What would you like to say to that person? Well, to start off, I don't think it's fabricated because it's a too bizarre story. I have no idea why I would make this up. And so if it has been fabricated, then that would be my message. Like, why the fuck would you made up such a bizarre story for attention? No need for that. We're going to offer to arrange a memorial service for the dog with all of the participants of this episode. Would you like to be invited to our Zoom memorial service
Starting point is 00:17:40 I'd lost that brilliant well I think that's everything that we wanted to cover me Lauren have you got any
Starting point is 00:17:45 other questions no I that is enough Tony that is enough you've given us a lot to think about
Starting point is 00:17:52 and you've changed the story in ways we did not expect to happen so Chanel Chanel
Starting point is 00:17:56 Chanel If you could let us know if we could get Joanna's sure I'll check her I'll check her
Starting point is 00:18:05 tomorrow what have you guys gotten yourself into. Thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Tony. Thank you guys. Good luck with the search. Lauren. Fuck. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yeah, because all of that for nothing. All of it. The whole fucking thing. Louis Vuitton undercover trip for nothing. For absolutely nothing. And I'm not doing that again. You're doing it next time with Chanel. I'm not going to Chanel. I'm just not going to Chanel. I'm just not doing it because then it's going to change to like fucking, it's going to change to Armani and we've already got the Armani bag. I've kept that so that's good.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Tony definitely threw a few curveballs our way on that call. But we left feeling like he was cooperative and on our side. That impression didn't exactly last. I've been chasing Tony and we really need to speak to the next part of the chain. Karen has chased Tony multiple times. So I went, we would be gutted if the chain ended here. We need to get to the bottom of the mystery.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And if there's anything you can do to reassure her that we're nice people with a good cause, it would be appreciated, praying hands. And then he responds, you're not nice people. Two days later. Yeah, exactly. He says, hey, I don't have any updates yet, exclamation mark. I'll send you a message when I do. Then I went, okay, thank you, fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Now, time passes. A week later, I go, hey, Tony, just checking in to see if you've got any doggie bag news. Is there a chance we could be put in touch with Johanna to ask her about her girlfriend if she'd be willing to chat with her? Silence. More time passes and more chasing occurs. How are you doing? How did the book launch go? You seem to have had an exciting start to the year.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Massive congratulations. Sucking up. Sucking out, flirting. I was just following up to see if there's any chance you could support us with the next steps in our canine investigation of the show. Janelle doggie bag mystery. We really hope we can speak to the dog owners, fight for justice for the dog, and get closure for many people of this chain.
Starting point is 00:20:12 With any chance you can help us get in touch, blah, blah, blah, we'll be very respectful, blah, blah, and congrats again with all the journalists sick achievements, blah, sucking up. Nothing. So he completely is ghosting us. Two weeks after I send this message.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'm just going to play it from WhatsApp. I know I've messaged you a few times. you can probably tell we're so keen to try and finish this episode and we've got a lot of people in the chain asking us why have you stopped investigating it and I know it's probably a lot to ask but if there's anything you can do to put us in touch with the next person in the chain that we can just take it off your hands and ask really nicely if they were doing an anonymous interview it would mean the world the episode we've already edited it and I just hope we're able to actually publish something
Starting point is 00:21:05 and not just because we've spent quite a long time editing and trying to investigate it. Guiltra. So I really hope, pray that we can continue this with your help. Please let us know. We'll just take off your hands if you could give us an introduction. It would mean a lot. Why has Tony gone silent?
Starting point is 00:21:22 What is he hiding? Who is he protecting? Why is he preventing us from reaching out to Joanna ourselves? He has no idea how much people want to get to the bottom of this. Come on, Tony, you son of a bitch. Get these girls on board. My favourite thing with this episode and this story, they're all journalists and they've potentially been spreading lies. And as much as it's silly, this is being broadcast as an episode to quite
Starting point is 00:21:46 a few people. So they really genuinely want to know if this story is based on truth or a lie. He then responded and he said, so sorry for not going back before, I just had the chance to speak to Johanna only earlier today. So there was a massive hiccup in our chain of communication. She chatted with her girlfriend and unfortunately they are not open to talk unhappy face tried to persuade her but they feel they have
Starting point is 00:22:12 very little to add and in addition they also haven't been able to reach out successfully to the friend to whom this happened oh my god they are not open to talk they're closing the door but why exactly
Starting point is 00:22:27 they know something I said hi Tony thank you so much for checking with your friend Johanna, totally fine that she doesn't want to be on and record an interview, but would she be at least willing to send us a short written message to confirm her position in this story? To be completely honest, the fact that they did not want to speak to us and the fact they were unable to get in touch with the real dog owners does make us believe this story is indeed an urban legend and just not true at all. So we wanted to reach out and give them a final chance
Starting point is 00:22:54 for them and the dog owner to defend their honour and send us a short final written message we could read out on the podcast to explain their suspicious silence. And then nothing. Oh my God. Do we know? We don't know her full name, eh? No. We can't stalk her.
Starting point is 00:23:12 No. I sent him all of, I just thought I'd pressure him to respond to that reaching out of one last message or something from the doggone because it's so suspicious. Didn't get anything. And then I thought, well, I'll pressure him by inviting him to the memorial service. We thought we would get answers. We thought that someone, Tony, Joanna, anyone, would help us make sense of this. But instead, we were met with silence.
Starting point is 00:23:39 At this point, there's only one thing left to do. A virtual memorial service for Joao slash John. After everything, the least we can do for the chain, who've stuck with us through all this chaos, is give them a chance to say goodbye. Here's the invite that went out. And it just says, RIP, in loving memory of Jowel slash John, in the date, 2013 to question mark, question marks.
Starting point is 00:24:06 We don't really know. I just guess that when he would have roughly been born and we don't know when he died if he even did die. And then there's a lovely black and white picture of a sort of scruffy mongrel dog actually has a little bit of Portuguese heritage and a little bit of American heritage. And it says, you are warmly invited to intend a virtual room memorial service for Jowal, later known as John, a much-beloved rescue dog. of unclear origin. And then it has a memorial program, which is, you and I will do a case update.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Then Detective Lauren Kilby's doing a eulogy. And then I'm doing a reading, owed to a dog in a bag. Everyone in the chain responded, including Tony. Then out of the blue, he said, yeah, I'll try and be there. Okay, so what's the purpose of the memorial to honour Juel's life? Exactly. Should we get started? Okay, welcome everyone to the memorial service for Jouelle,
Starting point is 00:25:07 also known to some as John. We gather here today to honour a very special creature. Whether Jouelle was real, imagined or something in between, his impact is undeniable. Thank you all for joining. us here in this cyber memorial, a shared space to reflect, to laugh, to grieve and to remember. This is a collaborative service, so if you feel moved to speak, please do. Each of us played a role in Juel's journey and every voice matters here. Okay, I think we're going to start with some introductions
Starting point is 00:25:45 from the chain. Please introduce yourselves and let us know how many people you spread Juel's story to. My name is Janika. I heard the story from Lena and I think I told the story to maybe 40 people by now. Yeah so Lena is my colleague and I'm trying to count how many people I told this story because it's like an ongoing thing. Probably around a hundred because there are also some group presentations in between. Weddings where I start telling it to one person and it ends up being 20 people listening. So yeah about 100. I guess. I heard the story from Giselle. Giselle was on a plane right now, so she won't be talking.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I told Giselle the story and many other people. And I heard the story from Emma. And I think I told to approximately 30 people. So I'm Emma and I heard the story from Peter, who is my sister. I think I told the story to maybe 30 people. I'm Peter. I'm the sister of Emma. and I heard the story from Mario Laine. I think I told the story to 15 people.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I'm Marilyn. I heard the story from a friend of mine who said he heard it in Paris, where he met not a dog owner, but one of the friends of the dog owner. And I think I told the story about 15 or 20 people, mainly colleagues. Listeners, you may have noticed that a certain somebody by the name of Tony has not introduced himself. he did not show up for the memorial.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Wow. Okay, Cardo, you're the biggest spreader of information here. You spread the most. Super spreader. You're a super spreader. We can count 235 people we've been told. And I think on average, most people tend to tell at least between like 20 to 30 people. So if we imagine the sort of ripple effect of this, I would suggest I'm no statistician,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but I would suggest at least the third of the whole population of the Netherlands, No, no, no, is this story. Okay, so we're going to give you a case update now, everyone. That's the next order of the service. This is not typical for a memorial. We're giving the members of the chain a case update. We wanted to let them know how the story developed with every new person we spoke to. Now, things start to change when we get to Mariline.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Mario Line tells us that the dog owners are not Dutch. Anything you'd like to tell the group? Marieland? For what I heard, they're definitely not Dutch. They came overseas. Which I think everyone else in the lower end of the chain here remembers our big fear for this was that if it switched countries.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, it was a tough moment emotionally for us. Highly inconvenient. Sorry to make it inconvenient for you guys. It's time to tell them the truth because everything changed when we got to tone. Then we spoke to Tony, the person who told Marieline. And it's a shame he's not here today because he has a lot of answering to do in terms of the next part of this story. But he was telling us, again, as Mariline said, that the dog owners actually weren't from the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They were American and that they flew the dog over from the US to Paris. and the big thing is they said the dog died outside the Chanel store nothing to do with Louis Vuitton what I did research is that there's a weight limit of a dog that is able to fly from the US to Paris and that is an eight kilogram they have to be able to travel in the cabin they have to be eight kilograms or less And we did a test with the bag that we managed to get from our undercover operation.
Starting point is 00:29:54 We put my 10 kilo dog in that bag. And we can confirm technically it was possible. It supported the weight of a 10 kilo dog very easily. So could absolutely have taken the weight of an 8 kilo dog and under. So now is the time for a group vote, knowing what we know of this story, whether you think it's an urban legend or if you still, think this is true. So please raise your hand if you think this is an urban legend. Do we vote? Yeah. Wow. Split verdict. 50% still believe the story is true. It's only the
Starting point is 00:30:40 journalists that want it to be real. I understand that. Your integrity is at stake. I have a lot to lose. The crazy thing is, and I'm very, very intrigued that Tony has not turned up today. Initially, when we tried to speak to him to get in touch with the people, the source that told him the information, I just couldn't get hold of him. He didn't respond. But then he said, look, I've just spoken to the couple who told him the story, and they do not want to get involved. They don't want to speak with you. He was told by his friend, Johanna. Johanna's girlfriend, also living in London. It was a friend of a friend of hers, is the actual dog owner, apparently.
Starting point is 00:31:26 But they don't want to get in touch, they don't want to speak to us, and they also can't get in touch with the next part of the chain, apparently. I should ask. I have no idea. I only know that he told me that they didn't want to talk to you. I didn't ask any questions about it. But yeah, there's something going on, so we're a bit stuck now. I think we should go straight to the memorial given the time. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, roast Tony open forum, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So he's the first man in this entire chain. Yes, correct. And it gets stuck there, so... It gets stuck at the man. Yeah, read what you want into that. Here is Jowel's eulogy, friends, storytellers and detectives. Jow, later known as John, was more than just a rescue dog. He was a European traveller, a luxury store loiterer,
Starting point is 00:32:16 and an accidental martyr in the curious intersection of grief and fashion. Real or not, Juel slash John has become something greater than truth. He is a tale, a small shaggy metaphor for everything weird and wonderful about being alive or dead. We remember him not just for the story of his death, but for the mystery of his existence. And though his final journey may have been in a vivid orange Louis Vuitton bag or a Chanel bag, snatched by the moped riding thief with absolutely no idea what was inside, his real legacy lies in the gasps, laughs and shrieks of disbelief he left behind. May Jouelle slash John rest in peace wherever he is now,
Starting point is 00:33:01 perhaps in the back of a Parisian wardrobe, or perhaps he was never anywhere at all, but here in our imaginations. I'm now going to do a short reading in a poem. for Joao slash Jean. Ode to the dog in the bag. In Paris he trotted, for pause in a dream, down boulevards bursting with cross-hunt and cream. A sniff here, a park there, no leash could restrain, the heart of a hound once rescued from pain. Then fate with its teeth, bit sharp and unjust.
Starting point is 00:33:37 By Louis Vuitton or Chanel's bright windows, he lay in the dust. A bag was his coffin, Couture, his goodbye. orange and branded beneath the Parisian sky. But lo, a thief came with scooter and greed, mistaking the mut for luxury need. He grabbed the bag fast. Oh, what a mistake for inside Joao who'd started to bake. So now we remember, with honour and gopheirs,
Starting point is 00:34:03 the dog who was legend, despite nature's laws. He might be rumour or cunningly spun, but what we know is that Joao was second to none. beautiful karen well spoken this was just the closure I needed yeah instead of getting you
Starting point is 00:34:25 actual answers we're just reading out some really fancy poems and we hope that this is enough definitely helps so that concludes our memorial service for zhao are there any final farewells well zhao has given me a lot
Starting point is 00:34:41 of joy he also helped me through some awkward social engagements because you have a great story to tell. So I'm very grateful for his existence in whatever shape or form that may be. And I would also like to thank you guys for diving deep. Joao or John brought a lot of joy to my life because I just really like the anecdote. Despite that he's dead, it's still a beautiful story. So thank you for your work. Dear Shao, I hope that you are in dark heaven if that exists. And otherwise, I hope your body is kind of treated respectfully somewhere in the physical world or in some kind of spiritual world.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Thank you for all the hard work. But this fact that this couple doesn't want to talk to you, for me, makes it even more true. I think that means something. Either that the dog felt like a child for them and it's not funny at all, or maybe they are like, famous or some kind of Russian oligarchs that want to stay anonymous or something like that. So I think there's a lot more to this case even than we know now. Yeah, I want to say that even though Jueu might be, or he's probably dead or might not even be real, I'm very glad he will always live on in not only our memories, but maybe in hundreds of people's
Starting point is 00:36:06 their memories, and also in this podcast. So I'm very glad. Okay, well, thank you so much for joining this emotional roller coaster and holding hands virtually with us. It's meant a lot to us. You've caused us joy as well through all of the different iterations to your story. You've caused us pain as well and problems in our investigation with a lot of people. But that's what we enjoy. You know, we don't want an easy ride. It's about the journey and not necessarily the destination.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So I don't really know, no one really knew where we're going and we still don't know where we are. We don't know what's going on and we don't know what will happen next. Well, let me tell you what happens next. A few weeks after the memorial service, I was heading to Paris for the weekend. And there was no way I could step foot in Paris without an undercover visit to Chanel on the Chonseilise. The potential crime scene. Okay, I am walking towards Chanel. As I got closer to the store, I noticed that there were scooters every single.
Starting point is 00:37:09 everywhere. Where are you, Chanel? Where are you? Oh yeah. I think we're here. So I guess I'd better hang up my fake phone call and just go into Chanel. Bonjour. Merci.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I've got a bit of a strange question for you. I was wondering. I live in Amsterdam and there's a story that's going around in Amsterdam about something that happened at this store, the Chanel store on the chancelise. It's regarding a dog about a couple who was walking with their dog down the chancelise and the dog collapsed and died outside the front of the Chanel store. The story goes that one of the shop assistants came out with a big Chanel like shopper bag for them to put their dog in and leave. And while they were walking, a scooter came past and stole the bag because they thought it was something expensive from Chanel and stole the dead dog. I was just walking past and I just thought, why not ask if this actually happened? The voices of the shop assistants have been altered to protect their identities.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I have never heard about this. How long have you worked here? I haven't been to here for two months, but I've been to you for two months. Thank you so much. The shop assistant goes to ask her colleague if they know anything about the incident. Get some perfume on while I'm here. I think it's fake. How long have you worked here?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Have you heard about it? No, never. Yeah. We don't have the big bags. Like we have the small bags. Oh, you've only got small bags here. Because we don't sound the person, that's why we don't have the beef bags, you know? That's why you and the dog did.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Fortunately, we can't even give the big bag. So then... We cannot give out bags. But is there another Chanel store on the Chonseilise? No. So this is the only Chanel store, and it's like a perfume, makeup. So you didn't even have the bags to give. You couldn't even give in a bag if it did happen.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I don't have to give out bags. You're not allowed. The staff are not allowed to give out. free bags. They probably cost a lot to make the bags. No, they don't think of the company, yeah, I understand. Okay, well thank you. Merci, very much. Oh, wow. The Chanel store on the Choms Lise sells only beauty products, small elegant items that slip neatly into small bags. None of those bags could possibly hold something
Starting point is 00:39:58 as large as a dead dog. And even if the bags were large enough, store policy forbids the staff from giving out free bags for any reason, including the removal of a dead dog, which leaves us with one conclusion. More lies are in circulation, and whatever happened, it could not have happened outside the Chanel store. As we face lies upon lies in this case, one question remains. Is any of this real? Since the release of Doggy Bag Part 1, new evidence has surfaced, evidence that changes everything. What we can tell you, dear listeners, is this. The story is far from over.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Doggybag Part 3 is now in production, as we dig deeper into the case and trace the origins of this story. What began as a local mystery has now unraveled into a complex international timeline. crossing borders, spreading through multiple countries and leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions. If you've encountered this story, we need your help. DM us on Instagram at WhoShat on the floor at my wedding? Every detail matters. Every lead could be the one that cracks the case.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Together we'll uncover the truth. Together we'll find justice for Juel. Slash John. Thank you.

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