WHOA That's Good Podcast - Cost n’ Mayor Are Living Their Best Dance Lives (And Having a Blast Doing It) | Sadie Robertson Huff

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

Sadie’s been following Cost n' Mayor since the pandemic days, and she’s so pumped they’re finally joining her in the studio! Austin and Marideth were in town helping out Willie and Korie Robertson with a dance for the recent talent show on "Duck Dynasty: The Revival," and they swung by to chat with Sadie about all the things—how they met, how they fell in love, the story behind the name “Cost n' Mayor,” what it’s really like working in the dance world, and how they both are having so much fun dancing together. Austin is eager to share what he's been learning and loving about his relationship with God, Marideth opens up about a huge, career-changing moment during an audition, and Sadie shares a story from her "Dancing with the Stars" season where she had to say a bold “no,” even when the producers were pushing her to say yes.  This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://drinklmnt.com/whoa — Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order. Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/WHOA and use the code WHOA to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Happy World That's Good Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week, but per usual, friends. Ooh, it's about to get so much better because we have two incredible guests on the podcast today that I'm genuinely geeking out about. We have Austin and Meredith. Altho? Altho? that I am genuinely geeking out about, we have Austin and Meredith, also, also, also. I botched the intro and I practiced it.

I practiced it. I practiced it. We're rolling with it. Also known as Cost and Mayor. I know you guys follow them on Instagram and now we get to hear their stories. So welcome to the podcast. Oh my gosh. Thank you.

It's so exciting to be here. We're so excited to be here. We're pumped. I am so pumped. So we have to tell so exciting to be here. We're so excited to be here. We're pumped. I am so pumped. So we have to tell everybody why you're here because it is so funny and they might have just seen it on TV.

But you guys came to film the show, which was just a hilarious storyline in general. My mom invited y'all to come help them learn how to dance for a talent show And just give us a little behind the scenes from your perspective. How did that go? It was fantastic. It was really good and hilarious And the willingness that your parents have to just absolutely go for it and commit to the bit is so amazing It was inspiring. It was really going for it

is so amazing. It was inspiring. It was really, really fun. Your dad was going for it. Yeah, going for it on such an intense level. We had so much fun with them. It's also so funny that we have so many mutual friends with you through like, Dancing with the Stars and the whole nine and to like,

have gotten to meet them first before we met you is so random and hilarious. Oh, I couldn't believe it. So I have been a huge fan of you guys since probably COVID, you know, following along. Cause I remember back in the day, like I was trying to learn all the dances and stuff. And I literally tried to teach Christian.

I was actually so embarrassed because you know, when you're about to meet someone and you're like, I probably like DM them something weird at some point. I used to like go check. Thankfully I didn't. You went and checked. When I went and checked, I was like, did I like say something at some point. I said like, go check. Thankfully I didn't. You went and checked. I went and checked. I was like, did I like say something at some point?

Like, hey, love to meet y'all, which would have been sweet. But like, what did I say? So I went back to check and I never DM'd y'all, but I did tag y'all in a dance of y'alls that me and Christian tried to do, which. No way, did we comment on it? No, you didn't. And that's okay, because y'all didn't know who I was.

Wait, we have to dig it up. But I was really trying to get seen. I'm like, have positive hair. Wait, we have to go find it. Keep talking. I know, very embarrassing, because Christian and I aren't the best dancers, but we've found that, you know,

we all found joy in dancing during those days. And it's so funny. Yeah, I literally tagged you on like, oh my gosh, I would notice. So sad we never saw we have to do it. Why? Look at the Lord. Look at the Lord. What was missed there. And you are here now. True, true. It was so funny. And so anyways, I tried to teach my parents different dances and y'all were just so good to kind of try to learn from, even though way more advanced than our level of expertise.

And so anyways, you know, mom and dad asked y'all to come down without telling anyone in the family, and when I found out, I was like, what the heck? Like, no one's gonna tell me this. I literally said, if y'all wouldn't have told me this, and they would have left, I would have been so mad. I know, and we wanted to reach out, because they would have left, I would have been so mad. I know. And we wanted to reach out because we love the podcast

and we wanted to do it. And then when they told us it was a surprise, we were like, oh my gosh, we're going to go to Louisiana and not do the podcast. It's so lame. So I'm so glad we could pull it together last minute. I'm so glad it all worked out. This is the best thing ever.

And I can't wait to learn your story because I know so much about your dance life, but like your actual life and I'm excited for other people to learn that too and maybe people know this but I think it's just so fun y'all story is so cool and so beautiful but first I have to ask y'all the question I literally ask everyone who comes on the podcast it's a big one it's a heavy hitter but for both of y'all what is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given? You first. You're gonna make me go first?

Yeah, I'm gonna make you go first. I've been wrestling with two, and the one is like, is it, I can't decide if it is like advice, but the first one I'll say, the first one I'll say is, and this kind of hit me like when we started to kind of like create our own projects and our own things, and it was when we kind of like create our own projects and our own things. And it was when we kind of realized that we, I think we were talking to like our, it was right when we

got our new manager. And he was like, you can't be afraid to just like create things and do things because you have been like dancing as a performer in this industry for so long, but now being in, you know, that 2020 era where you have TikTok at your disposal, the only thing that's standing in your way is just hitting that post button. So you can kind of create anything you want. You can, if you have an idea that you want to try out, just film it and post it and see how it goes. And if it fails, you'll learn something from it. And if it goes really well, then it worked. But you can't be afraid to just like try those new things

and just put them out there because when you don't, then it's just, it's a constant like hold back. So I think it's just, if you have an idea or something you want to try out, just find an outlet to try it out on and try it. Which was groundbreaking advice, especially at the time, because we were so used to being performers in the industry.

The performer, like the background. And usually you have to like, also before you ever get to share anything with the world, you've got to go through your agent. So many levels. And three auditions. And the casting, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many levels before you actually get

to share something with the world. And when he was like, nothing's stopping you just do it You're yourself. Yeah, we were like, you know what you can do that Yeah, we can do that crazy when someone says something to you. That's like obvious But because you've been in the mindset of something for so long You're like so simple my good advice choice is very obvious too, but was life altering for me in the moment I had a great mentor in college who were you done with that? I hijacked the conversation. Yeah, I'll talk about my other one later.

Okay. Let's go back to number two. So I had a great mentor in college who, I used to babysit her kids all the time, but she, I was kind of wrestling with like, oh my gosh, should I move to New York? Should I move to LA? Like I want to pursue dance, but what if it's wrong? What if this doesn't work out? What if whatever? Like I was just what ifing myself to pieces. And she looked at me one day and she was like,

if it doesn't work out, you'll just come home and do something else. And I was like, you're like, oh. I was like, yeah. That's so good actually. You know what? I think there's so, especially in the dance industry.

I mean, like, in all industries, really. But I was so used to putting so much pressure on myself to, like, go the path and succeed and do the things that I wanted to do and it had to work out and it had to be perfect. And she was like, she just, like, gave me permission to fail. And I was like, and she was like, what's the worst that could happen? It all falls apart and you just do something else. And I was like, and she was like, what's the worst that could happen?

It all falls apart and you just do something else? And I was like, you're like, it's the case. I guess it'll be fine. That is so, such good advice. And the truth is like in your twenties, it is the time to do that. It's the time to try it and figure it out.

And if it doesn't work, then it probably leads you to the thing that's going to work. I think Sarah Blakely talks about that a lot, the woman who started Spanx. It's so inspiring, because she has this dream, but who knew that was gonna blow up to what it was? I know, her story's amazing, which is so cool.

The worst thing that could happen is it didn't work out. The best thing that could happen is she's Sarah Blakely. Oh, she's so inspiring. And Shark Tank is, to me, the highest flex, because I love Shark Tank. But I, no, that is really inspiring, and I is, to me, the highest flex. Because I love Shark Tank. No, that is really inspiring. And I love what you said, Austin, because I think that we were talking about this yesterday

when we were going to do one of y'all's dances, but the one that we had chosen was not your original dance. You're like, oh, this isn't one of our originals. And you're like, we can do that. I'm like, no, we should do one of your originals because it's y'all's thing. This is so cool. And then I always got to thinking about last night,

like the trends and that like feed the algorithm of social media. And it's so interesting because we all do like the same trends. And so you go on TikTok and like you're watching the same trend be done by like every person. Which is just kind of interesting thing, but we do it and we're entertained by it.

But then it's like so refreshing when someone gives you something new and something different, because you're like, oh good, like finally I'm not watching the same trend and hearing the same song, like it needed to be something new. And I think whenever we get into this like pattern

of the world, it's like everybody wants to look like everybody else. And it's like, that's fine and you can coast with it, you can be entertained. But like when someone gives you something original, when someone gives you like a side of them that the world hasn't seen, it's like, oh, what a gift. Because not only do you see a new thing,

but you're also seeing like a new side of God if we're all created in his image. And it makes me think like, don't be conformed by the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. Be creative, like do more things. Like that's so much more of a gift of this world would be transformed by the renewal of your mind. Be creative, do more things. That's so much more of a gift to the world. And so it's funny because I'll do trends and stuff like that

because they're fun and whatnot, but it's always your original content that people gravitate to. That's why people wanna follow you. And so such a good point, such a good call out and to just like create something. And if it doesn't work. To live original.

To live original. It all goes back to that. Yeah, it sure does. But it's actually just so true because I do think that people are afraid of that because again, what if people don't like who you are? What if it doesn't work? But I think when you think about social media,

like there are some things that don't work, okay, this gets way less views than that. But at the end of the day, it's like, no one else cares but you. No one else is looking at like, man, that video of theirs got so much less views and then they're embarrassed. No one's looking at that.

And if you're doing something that isn't you, you're attracting the wrong audience, which is a lesson that I've learned over and over. I wish that would have been my best advice. That was just a whole thing that I struggled with. And I mean, we'll get into this, but back when we were individual performers in New York, I think that I spent a long time trying to be somebody

that was not me. And I would just go into auditions. And there was like a moment where it was right before the pandemic and also made finding Costner and that whole journey so sweet. But there was a moment before the pandemic when I was just in an audition room. And I was like, if I, it was for an agency.

And I was like, if this agent wants to take me onto the roster based on the way, who I am in the room right now, I will book all of the wrong jobs. Because this isn't who I want to be. This isn't who I am. And it's the same with social media. When we're making content that doesn't feel authentic to us, we're attracting the wrong people.

And so staying true to yourself is so important, not just like... we're attracting the wrong people. And so staying true to yourself is so important, not just like. ["Spring Day"] All right, friends, real talk. Being pregnant in the summer while chasing toddlers around should count as an Olympic sport.

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what it might've looked like at one point it was like, oh, getting booked in these things, but then you get there and you're like, that's actually not what I want. Like, I don't want to be booked in those things. I want to be a dancer, but not if it means in that area of life. Tell me a little bit more about the dance world,

because this is so intriguing. So did y'all both grow up dancing? Ish, I started when I was about nine years old. I started out playing T-ball because my dad was like the rec coach. So he was like big into baseball. He coached rec, he coached like high school, middle school, like for years.

So I just kind of like fell into suit doing that. But there was one baseball tryout that we had gone to that I just showed up, like hadn't even gotten out of the car yet. And I just showed up and I was like in full tears, like freaking out. And I just had gotten to the point where I like, it just didn't like, it didn't excite me anymore. And I thought he was going to like be super mad, you know, and I told him, I was like, I don't think I want to try out for this baseball team.

I just, I don't like it anymore. It's not fun for me. And he was like, okay, cool. That's fine. You were like, phew. I was like, whew. Yeah. But then as time went on,

I didn't really have any other hobbies or anything. And so my mom was like, we need to find something for you to do. And so she put me in this triple threats class, which was like singing, dancing, acting, like all in one. And I was like, absolutely not. We're not doing it. And I went into the class and loved it. Obsessed. I came out of the class and like asked to sign up for like every other style that the dance studio offered. He's a triple threat to this day.

I don't know about this day. I'm putting Sad about to this day. Fierce. Fierce. I'm putting Sadie onto the word fierce. From here on out on this podcast, y'all will hear me say fierce. It's fierce.

We're bringing it back. We're bringing it back. We're bringing back that and the tones. And Tim's. That's so good though. Did you know before that, that you could dance? No, no one in my family had danced before. Wow.

I mean, my dad like kind of played the guitar, but that's kind of the only musical, I guess, ish space. I mean, my mom was an art teacher. So there was kind of that art aspect, but no dancing, performing, or anything like that. That is so cool. Did you sing at all, too?

I did, because I started to do, um, this is your note. I did the community musicals and then when I got into middle school, high school I also did the plays and musicals there too. That's awesome. But yeah, did a little bit of everything. And then from there did you go on to continue to pursue a career in it? So once I kind of started taking more styles, I started to like the hip hop street styles more too. And so when I was 16 is when I started teaching

for the first time and I really liked teaching. And then in 2017 is when I moved to New York to really start auditioning and trying to get an agent and stuff like that. So yeah. So in the dance world, and I want to get to yours in just a second, So yeah. So like in the dance world, and I want to get to yours in just a second, when you moved to New York,

is the hope like Broadway, is it, like what are all the dance options? The dance options are endless. I mean, there's musical theater, but there's also commercial, which is like- Music video, touring, TV, TV. All that kind of thing. That's like, you can, touring, TV, yeah. All that kind of thing. That's like, you can, yeah, I guess it depends

on your agency, but you can move to New York or LA. For me, I had gone to do commercial. I wanted to do tours and backup dancing and TV movies, all that stuff. Did I do any of it? Nope. Now look at you now. I know, and that's, I'm sure we'll get into that later too.

People leave agent quickly though, unlike myself. I did, yeah that's, I'm sure we'll get into that later too. I did. I'm like myself. I did get an Aiden. Did not. Oh shoot. Okay, tell me your dance background. I started dancing when I was 14. I was late to the party, which was good though.

In hindsight, I'm very glad that I was like a full human being before I was a dancer, because I think when you start dancing super young, your identity is so wrapped up in dance that it's hard to like, I don a dancer, because I think when you start dancing super young, your identity's so wrapped up in dance that it's hard to like, I don't know, it's just hard to separate out your dance and regular life experiences. But, um, started dancing when I was 14,

had an awesome coach who really trained us in like foundational street styles, which was really rare. And then, so we kind of have reverse flip-flop training, where I started in street styles, which was really rare. And then, so we kind of have reverse flip-flop training where I started in street styles and then progressed to theater and really fell in love with that second. But then when we met and found each other, it was such a unique thing that kind of led to us

choreographing together because we both could speak like the street styles language vocab and also the musical theater vocab and so our style is very like influenced with both of those things and not a lot of people have both of those training elements so it has really worked for us in like a unique way. That's super cool. Yeah. It's also really encouraging you started at 14 because as a mom to little ones it is so crazy how young the pressure starts of like, oh well, if they're gonna be good, then you have to get in. It's like, nah, she's only three years old.

Like, I think she's gonna be fine. But like, I've heard so many people with that story. We had a gymnast on at one point, and she was an Olympic gymnast, and she was like, I had no idea, I was like six years old, I had a birthday party, and I was like doing cartwheels, and they were like, you're pretty good. And my mom was like, okay, let's just like try.

But it started out so chill. And then, you know, because if God gave you that, then he gave it to you. He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it in the right time. Like he can turn water into wine, he can expedite some processes. He can teach you what he needs to teach you.

So y'all's meeting story is hilarious. So you gotta tell us, how did the two of you meet? We booked the same job when we were... It was actually crazy that we didn't meet in New York because we had so many mutual friends and some mutual mentors, but it was just like jobs taking us in different places that we just never crossed paths. But then we booked the same job at Six Flags Great Adventure

in Jackson, New Jersey. It was extremely glamorous. And we did... It was a Halloween show where they painted us as zombies, like head to toe airbrushed us every night. Oh, my gosh. Elaborate costumes, like... Doesn't that sound like the perfect backdrop for a romance?

Love it. First sight. You saw her, you were like, -"Dang, that zombie thing." -"Dang, girl." She's the one. Yeah, but it was a super fun time. That cast was amazing. Most of them came to North Carolina for our wedding and it was our whole wedding. It was so much fun.

But that job was awesome. So you all met. How did you all fall in love? From that point, how did you start dating? We actually didn't date until after the job was over. Yeah. But we were always like cutting up during like rehearsals and stuff when we were hanging out. Like we're always laughing.

You definitely have like similar energy in like the best way. Like I love whenever couples, you can genuinely tell their best friends. Like whenever, which we're going to get back to your piece of advice in a second, but whenever she was like, oh, did I cut you off? And you're like, it's okay, girl.

You just see like the chemistry, it's okay, girl. I don't care. Like, you just see like the chemistry, it's the best thing ever. So you all had chemistry, but when did you finally be like, okay, there might be something more. Yeah, it wasn't until after, like the show was over and everything was done that we,

that's when we realized we're like, how didn't we meet before this? Because we like, we're going to the same dance classes in New York, we were in the same group of friends, and we were like, this is so weird that we kept passing each other. I think we realized that we were in the same dance class

at one point. Oh yeah, we've since gone back and found footage from classes that were both in at the same time. We didn't know each other yet. This was before we knew each other. It was so weird. It was like, oh, we took that class, but we didn't know each other. Yeah, we didn't was like, oh, we took that class, but we didn't know each other.

It was crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But um. It's actually so cool though. Yeah, we just started like hanging out all the time. Austin thought we were dating way before I thought we were dating because we were just hanging out. And then he'll tell the story and he'll be like, oh yeah, back when we were like, we're

dating. And I was like, that's not what happened. That's such a guy thing though. Yeah, we were dating. You're like, did you ask me? Like on a date? No. You know, like-

Doesn't count. Doesn't count. That's so funny. So y'all were, we're all still living in New York when y'all dated? Yeah, briefly until COVID rocked our worlds, but yes. Okay, so let's get to when COVID rocked your world. When COVID rocked your world, you weren't married yet.

Correct. But y'all moved back to North Carolina closer to your family? We had only been, at that point, we had only been actually dating now. What I consider. What she considers actually dating. For like what, a few weeks? A few weeks. Yeah.

And we had no intention of moving back to North Carolina. I was just like, let's go. Or moving to North Carolina. Yeah, truly. We, we, they shut down all the dance studios, all of our jobs. And so there was really no reason to like stay pinned up in our 12 square foot apartments. Yeah, New York was like the worst during COVID. It was bad.

And you really, it was hard to get around. And it was just, I was like, let's go wait it out in North Carolina with my family for a couple of weeks. And then we got stuck there for a long time. Again, after three weeks of dating, I moved into her parents' home. And everyone's always like, was that such a jarring reality to like be like stuck together in the same house?

Like, it really wasn't though. It wasn't, but it was because we, the job that we met on put us in such a specific scenario where we were like shacked up with the whole cast. Like we were, there was no, like everyone's like, was it crazy to like live in the same house and like brush your teeth together after like two weeks? Yeah, there was like a two week rehearsal period

for that show that we had, like the entire cast had like lived in a house together. Yeah. Right. And then the shows only happened on weekends. So we would go back to New Jersey. On like Thursday nights and see until Monday. And like continue to live together through the weekend and then just do that for like two months straight.

So it was that weird. Because even like the Dancing with the Stars world of things, it was like my glimpse into the dancing life. And it was like crazy just how close everyone was. Whereas like, if I was in a different scenario and there was that many people who were that close, I'd be like, this is kinda weird.

In the dancing world, that's so normal. Because they tour together, they live on a bus together, it really is, you're just that close. They're all huggy and lovey, and you're like, this is weird, but then by the end of it, you're doing it too. This is like the dance world. So I do get that a little bit.

You're used to seeing people in their pajamas brushing their teeth and making their morning coffee and seeing them in their own private moments of life. So it wasn't, we were used to each other by then. And to your point, we did the same thing. We came back to Louisiana. It was Christian's spring break, senior year of college. And that's whenever COVID all kind of went down. And so we came back to Louisiana, it was Christian's spring break, senior year of college. And that's whenever like COVID all kind of went down.

And so we came back to Louisiana, we're staying at my parents' house and we were just thinking, oh, we'll just ride this out for a couple of weeks thinking that was gonna be it. And then all of a sudden now we live in Louisiana. Like it was just like such a crazy time for everybody, obviously. So when y'all move out, dance world's like shut down.

Are y'all thinking like, what are we gonna do? And I know this is kind of where Cosmere started, but you gotta tell the whole story, like how did y'all dream that up? How did it actually get kickstarted? All right, is it just me or did Summer somehow make your schedule even more chaotic? That's why I am so pumped about AG1.

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into another. We would choreograph something, choreograph a piece and then come back and I would teach her mine and she would teach me hers. But it took a while for us to be like, we should just choreograph together. That's so funny. Such a weird time. So then we eventually started doing that. like we should just choreograph together. That's so funny. Such a weird time. So then we eventually started doing that.

And so the cost and mayor name, this is the story. Before we moved to North Carolina, we would, when we were hanging out, not dating. Hanging out. Not dating. We would like play cards, like Rummy, because we're 90 years old. Oh, we're big cards. I'm also 90.

So we'd be like hanging in the park like playing cards, but we always had a note like on our phone that kept all the scores. And so we made the note and we said, hey, Siri, make a note that says Ost and Mayor, because that's what we called each other for short. But the closest real words that Siri knew was cost and mayor. And so we had this note on our phone that said cost and mayor, and it had all of our card game scores. And we just thought it was funny.

And it was a running joke forever. Yeah, for a long time. And then this was when Finstas were really popular. And so when we were getting to the point of making a Finsta or a TikTok, we were hot. Really popular. Yeah. And so when we were getting to the point of making a Finsta or a TikTok, we were like. We were getting to the point of making a Finsta? That's how bad COVID got. I love how that was the hard-hitting story

that you wanted. It is. Because most people would think from the outside, how did you start your platform? How did it blow up? Because you try to think strategy and all these things. And like. Zero strategy.

Because most of the time when it works, there isn't any strategy. That's the thing. Like most of the time when you try to have strategy, it doesn't work out. It's the Siri. Yeah, exactly. And now we're ready to start a Finsta.

Somehow, someway, because this is who you are. It's what y'all are doing. So you start a Finsta. We actually didn't. Oh, you didn't. Finsta didn't even happen. It was- TikTok was like the whole- The whole thing. you started a Finsta. We actually didn't. Oh, you didn't. A Finsta didn't even happen. It was— TikTok was like the whole—

The whole thing. Was the new Finsta. Yeah. And it was actually your mom who was like, you know, TikTok's becoming like this big thing. It was my mom. What? Shout out to mom.

She was like, you kids—like the kids are dancing on the internet and you guys could do that. You should start posting. Like trying to find us something to do. And I was like, okay, mom. And so we made a joint TikTok account and named it Cost and Mare. something to do and I was like, okay, mom. And so we made a joint TikTok account named at Cost and Mare. We actually, like, I remember debating whether we should make separate TikTok accounts or one TikTok account, which is so stupid.

I mean, I'd only been dating for a couple weeks. So, um, but the other day we were reminiscing about that and I was like, wow, who knew that that was gonna be like, a life-altering decision? Who knew? It's so funny, last night, after we had dinner with y'all, which we got crawfish, which was so fun. 25 pounds of crawfish, thank you. We literally ate 25 pounds of crawfish.

It was the best night of my life. Which was so bold of us to do that, two people who had never eaten crawfish, but the fact that we finished it is impressive. It was so good, I'm still dreaming about it. But the fact that we finished it is impressive. It was so good. I'm still dreaming about it. But my dad, we had called him after, not about that. But we were like, oh, dinner was so fun.

And then he was like, yeah, hey, why is their name Cost and Mayor? And I was like, actually, I don't know why it is. It's so weird. And I was like, is that their last name? I was like, no. And so I love this story, though. It's like so just that, but that's the thing. Like those are the things that normally work.

It's the effortless things that just like, I mean, that's how well that's good started. Me and my mom were at a college event, at a sorority event, and my mom and I both had like mics on that were, you know, didn't have like the handheld where you can put it down. We both had the hot mics. The Brittany mics.

I mean, We're here. And they asked me what my best piece of advice I've ever been given was, just scrolled in. So I answered the question. And then my mom goes, whoa, that's good. Cute. And that's literally how it started. And then I had been kind of wanting to start a podcast,

and I couldn't think of a name or what the concept was, which is very important when you start a podcast. And so then after the night, I was like, oh my gosh, that would be such a good podcast concept if I asked people what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given, and then I say, well, that's good. It's so small, it's not big, but then it works because it comes from a natural moment.

So I love that that's y'all's name. So y'all start doing this for fun, it's fenced to status. When did it start becoming like, oh, like we're actually doing this. Like people are watching. Really when we started doing original stuff, because at first we were kind of just like, we were getting the lay of the land.

We were like, what are we doing on this app? And so we were doing dance trends as you did. And as we all did. As we all did. And it was like, we were just doing it for fun. And then we posted one video that was like, I'm trying to think, it was by Nathan Lust, who's hilarious and our good friend now. But he had made this silly dance,

and then we tacked on this, like, more, like, we tacked on this, like, section that we made up onto the end of it that was like, this weird, like, I don't know. Super foundational like hip hop groove. And people loved it and they were like, oh, I love this part that you added. And that was when we were like,

maybe we should just do all of our original stuff. And then once we started really like, just doing original stuff, that's when it really started growing and becoming a thing. Were y'all like, what was the moment y'all looked at each other and were like, oh my gosh, like, we're doing this.

Like, was there a moment that you were just kind of shocked by how much it had grown? I mean, we were definitely shocked by how much it had grown for sure. We never intended for it to become such a huge thing. If anything, it was gonna be a way for us to, we were still such in the mindset of like, oh, maybe this can be a great tool for us

when we go back to New York as individual performers. And that was still very much the track we were on. Oh, maybe this will be a great piece of leverage to get us into auditions or to get an awesome agent. Or we were still very much in the head space of that's where we're going. We're going back there. Which is so interesting.

So it took us a long time to reroute our thinking to a new destination. Yeah, that's so cool. So you mentioned that there is like tension in the dance world as far as like going into all these agencies and them saying that you have to do this or you have to do that. And I've experienced that in a small sense,

like back in the day, whenever I thought before doing all I'm doing now that I was going to maybe do acting. So all the agencies and all the casting and all the, and it's just like, whoa, it's a lot. And then you actually, you know, got the moment to kind of have your freedom and dance and all the, and it's just like, whoa, it's a lot. And then you actually, you know, got the moment to kind of have your freedom and dance and have fun, but you still felt like I'm gonna go back to that.

That is like an interesting thing because you didn't love it, but that was like the path that everybody took. Like talk about that tension a little bit that probably most dancers feel, because you were, y'all were able to kind of create something that feels right with who you are and represents who you are and do the thing you love. But I feel like a lot of people are stuck in that.

Like I love to dance, but it doesn't fit my morals or I love to dance, but it doesn't, the end path isn't exactly what I want. How do you have the confidence? I mean, you're obviously speaking hindsight, 2020, like y'all because of 2020, we're able to get out of it. But what do you tell people now who are stuck in that tension?

Yeah, it took a long time for us to really believe we didn't have to follow the dance traditional path, which was why during the first, probably whole year of Costume Air, we still thought that we would go back to New York and be individual performers and like, which was why during the first probably whole year of Costume Air, we still thought that we would go back to New York and be individual performers and hope we booked the same jobs.

I remember having the conversation because prior to the Six Flags job that we did, I was coming from another job that kind of overlapped by a few days. And I remember having a conversation like, what if we go back and like, we get booked for separate things? Like, how are we going to like keep this like posting together? Like, that's going to be really interesting. Like, I remember having that conversation and I was like, I don't know. Yeah. And I really like I said earlier, I, I was become, I had gotten to a point right before COVID where I was really just like discouraged and frustrated as like a, I mean, it's frustrating for males and females in this space, but I think like, I was so frustrated going to all of these commercial calls where if you're a female going to these commercial calls, you're wearing like a four inch stiletto and your whole little look.

And like, that was just the game. Like you had to do that to even get an agent, which isn't even the audition. That's just like, you gotta do that so that you get the person who's gonna maybe get you the audition later. Like it's, that felt like the thing that gate kept success. And so you kept going.

I would continue just going and going and going to these auditions and trying to make it work because every mentor in my life was like, this is just what you have to do. This is the way. This is the only, it was just so ingrained in my brain that that was the only way you could do things. And then, like I said, had that moment right before COVID

where I was at a call in my stilettos girl in the whole getup. And I was like, even if I nail this, then what am I going to do a hundred jobs of this? I don't want to nail this. This is not what I want to nail. And so when, when we finally got traction with Cost and Mare and it was really becoming a thing that we started to see a future for, I was like, oh. And that was the moment I really got to like, it felt like God's plan was starting to click. You never know what he's got going on, but there's always those moments where you're like,

oh, maybe this is my way around. Because I had really struggled with it. I was like, God, why would you lead me into this career that I feel so called to do? And then, you know, like walk me into a room where, yeah, where I have to compromise my morals and who I am. And I'm not saying there's not a place

for a sexy sensual dance and a place for a costume that reveals your lines. I think that there's a place for all of those things. But I was, I think in the commercial industry, there's really some like compromising, hyper-sexualized stuff that I just like was not with. Wasn't who I was. And so when Cost and Mare really started to take off, I was like, okay, God, I'm starting to see the vision.

You've given us a different way and we're gonna have to take it. That's great. I love that. Yeah. Have you ever woken up looking like you just survived a wrestling match with your Sheets? Yeah, maybe we all have. Christian is the one who tosses and turns,

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And I'm like, well, I can't do that. Like I love to dance because ever since Jason Mastrara's I like fell in love with it. But I'm like, I also like literally I'm preaching on stages and like writing these books and telling people to like be confident in who they are and not compromise your morals and like stand strong in your faith.

And so that would be be a confusing message for me to be saying all these things and me to be dancing inappropriately and to talk. So that doesn't work. At the same time, I totally believe that dancing is a gift that we've been given from the Lord. It's something that you find joy in in life. It's a form of art.

I want to do that. And so y'all gave even me just for fun an outlet to like, okay, I can copy these people because they're putting out stuff that's like family friendly. You were always dressed very modestly. Like y'all have really fun, funny dances, but nothing that ever makes you go,

ooh, I probably shouldn't watch that or like whatever, you know, you don't want your husband to see or whatever. And so it was just very refreshing content in the dance world. I was really thankful for that. And that was, I remember on the show, at the end of the Dance of the Stars, there was this finale dance

that they wanted all the girls to do. And it was like, we're all gonna wear these outfits that were like very skimpy. And we were gonna dance to the song Boss. It was the fifth harmony, you know, so it's really like power girl song. And like, the fun of it would have been that, but it got like very inappropriate.

Like it was kind of, it was just very inappropriate. And so I was like, I'm so sorry, I can't do this. And I remember it being like a big deal. Like it was like, well, if you don't do this, and like, this is the finale dance, and all the finals are gonna do this. And I remember it being like a big deal. Like it was like, well, if you don't do this, and like this is the finale dance, and all the finals are going to do it, and then they're not going to be able to do it. And I was like, well, I don't want them to not be able to do it.

I just don't want to do it. And that's the terrifying thing about the dance industry, because it feels like you don't have a choice. It's like no other option. 100%. But then finally, I was like, I'm so sorry. I don't want to do it, so I'm not going to do it. So I didn't do it, and they still got to do it.

And so there is a choice, you know? 100%. And that's the thing, there always is a choice. You always have a choice in anything in life. And I had a mentor when I was in eighth grade tell me this out of Bible study. This might be one of the best pieces of advice I got. She said, five seconds of awkward

will save you from a lifetime of regret. And it was like so true. Well, that's good. It's so true. That's so true. Sometimes it takes you a minute to regret." And it's like so true. Well, that's like goosebumps. It's so true. Sometimes it takes you like a minute to be like, this is supposed to be so awkward. It's going to be very uncomfortable. And it's normally a little bit longer than five seconds. But I'm so glad that me doing that dance is not on the internet, you know? And like also they got to do it. And so it didn't hurt anybody. There was a choice. And for you, it was like sitting there in the cell, I was like, I don't really want to do this.

Like, this is not really where I want to go. And you just, you had a choice. And now, like, y'all are doing something together as a married couple that's literally, like, reaching probably more people than you ever thought you would in the dance world. Like, millions of followers, millions of views. Like, how cool is that?

It's the coolest. I mean, that is such a testimony and such a good example for people to hear that you always have a choice, and not only that, but when you choose the path of the Lord, He's directing your path, and it's going to be better

than whatever the world can offer you. So much better. Because had you succeeded in that industry in that way, you would have never felt fully, probably satisfied in what you were doing because something was off. But now you get to be fully yourself and do fully what you love. Like, what a gift.

And it's been so crazy to see the way that God has opened up doors for us that align with His plan for our lives. At one point I was like, oh man, you know, if we do this whole costume, I think it's going to be great, but you know, we're going to have to, we're going to have to give up all of these dreams we had as professional dancers,

like going on tour and like doing music videos. And like, we've gotten to do the coolest stuff. Like the way that, I mean, the first tour we did was Pentatonix, which was awesome. And we're literally on stage doing a national tour, dancing to like, Hark the Herald Angels Sing, Glory to the Newborn King, to a reen, they literally still give me goosebumps.

Like arenas of people. It was amazing. To see God be like, and they've never used dancers on a tour before. I actually was such a fan of Pentatonix when I was in high school, me and my best friend. And I remember a day we were listening, we were like watching the documentary or something and she was like, you should dance for them one day.

And I was like, girl, they're a NACAPELLA group. They're going to use dancers. They're going to use dancers. And then we just like the way that it all came together and God perfectly orchestrated, it was insane. And like, we've gone to work with such great artists like them and Andy Grammer. And people that really support us and also share our values in entertainment.

It's been insane to see the doors open. I always try to encourage people in that, because I think when people think, OK, I got to choose this or that, the career path or whatever. And it's normally not as simple or as, it's not like as dumbed down as that. You might choose this, but if God put all these things in your heart, there will be a way that He allows you to use all of them.

I remember thinking whenever I didn't do acting and stuff like that, I was like, okay, that's great. I started kinda going down this path of ministry. I didn't think I was stuff like that. I was like, okay, that's great. Like I started kind of going down this path of ministry. I didn't think I was gonna have a following in that. I was thinking, this is where the following dies. This is where this part ends of my story. You know? Like, I don't know how this is gonna go on social media,

you know? But then, like what in the world? I would have never expected that. Like I remember after Dance With The Stars, and I had like a million followers, being like, this is crazy, oh my gosh, like, whatever. And then, like, pursuing ministry and thinking like, this is just, from here on out,

probably gonna like start losing. And now it's like gained to five million, and I'm not, I don't care about like, I'm not trying to say, ooh, look at how many followers. I just mean like, God, I didn't expect that. I didn't ask for that. I didn't even, but yeah, you continue to grow this platform, and, look at how many followers. I just mean like, God, I didn't expect that. I didn't ask for that. I didn't even, but yeah, you continue to grow this platform and it's all for your glory.

And like, praise God that I get to do this and that people listen and that it encourages people. Cause at the end of the day, it's not about me, it's about them. It's about what they're getting and receiving at the other end. And so I say it to say like, you might think, okay, if I choose this and this means this.

And a lot of people think, and the world kind of convinces you, if you choose the path of the Lord, it's over for you in the world. But everybody craves God, the things of the Lord, love, joy, peace, patience, all these things. And so when you give people a glimpse of the goodness of God, like people want it, people cling to it. When you give them a glimpse of joy and dancing

or an outlet to be creative or to do art, like people, I want that, you know? Oh, thank you for giving me like something fun. And so it's just interesting. I feel like how the world convinces you like, that's the end of the road, or it's this or that. But it's really not, you know, it's really not, especially if you're walking it out

the way God actually lays it out. It's beautiful. The same mentor that gave me my good piece of advice also told me one time when I did a lot of ministry with like high school girls in college, which I was so passionate about. And I had considered doing it full time. And I was also, which was something that I really,

I always, I thought that I was going to go into dance. And then when I started doing ministry, I was like, oh my gosh, I have such a heart for this. Like, I love working with these high school girls. I love it so much. And I was like, oh my gosh, I have such a heart for this. Like, I love working with these high school girls. I love it so much. And I was really wrestling with going into dance or ministry. And I was like, I just, I've got so much guilt for like,

I think dance is what I'm being called to, but like, what am I going to not pick ministry? Like, how can that be God's will for me to like not pick that? And she was like, you're not picking dance or ministry. You're picking ministry and you're selecting your field. You're picking ministry no matter what. Dance is your ministry. Is my ministry.

And that was like, oh my gosh, you're so right. Like I'm either gonna minister to high schoolers or I'm gonna minister to the dance industry. And it's not picking this or that. And people need to realize that because you need, like you are at the light of the world, you know, not like the light of the church, like are the light of the world, not like the light of the church. You're the light of the world.

So you need to be in the world to be the light of the world. And same thing, it's like, oh, if you do TV or if you do that, whatever, it's like, no, you're using that as your place to ministry. So the best example is whenever Jesus calls Peter, he's like, come with me, I'll make you a fisher, a man, saying like, you're a fisherman, that's what you love to do,

I'm gonna teach you how to do that with purpose. And then he's still fishing, you know? So it's like, Jesus takes the things that you love to do, and he's like, let me teach you how to not do this with purpose behind it. And if you don't have purpose behind what you're doing, you're always gonna feel like something's missing because everybody in life wants to have purpose.

That's why you do what you do. And so if you're doing what you're doing with minus the purpose part, you're missing it, you know? But it's when you put that piece together and you're like, this is it, that's fulfillment, you know? Austin, I want to circle back because we never heard your second piece of advice. The second piece of advice.

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Like, doing things because I thought I had to do them because the dance industry was telling me that this is the only way to get it done. Like, you've got to follow these five steps to get there. And I was like, okay, done and done. I will, you know, I will drop everything I'm doing and I will do what I can to complete those steps. And so, it

was really crazy when he, like, led me to Meredith and brought me back to North Carolina and living with her family in the Bible Belt of... Brought them to the Bible Belt. The United States. Showed them a real good time. And that's when I started, we started like listening to church every Sunday morning during COVID. And it was the way that the pastor there was just, like, he was making it so easy for me to understand like God's Word and how it relates to my life, like how a book written so long ago is still relevant to my life today. And I was like, what? That's crazy.

And so, I started to get more and more intrigued and he was still kind of like, it sounds bad, but God lives to crumble down your world so that he can build up his. And I just read about that in the devotion I was doing the other day, and I was like, that's so crazy. Picturing Jesus just wanting to crumble down like your world so we can build up His is like such an interesting thing.

But it's really, it's so true. And so, I remember like my, like the date that I like was like, okay, I need to like, I need to, you know, find Jesus again. We were, it was in like, it was just like a terrible day, and I was like, just going through so much. And she had said to me, she said, I like, think about it like this. You go, you have a list of like, your groceries,

like 50 things, like a big list on your grocery list. You go to the store, you grab the grocery cart, but you're picking all those groceries up, but you're trying to hold them with one hand. It's like, why would you do that? Like you're trying to still hold all of these things by yourself, but you're pushing an empty grocery cart.

It's like, take those things and put them in the grocery cart. It's like right there. That's really good. Like that's God for you. You can put them in the grocery cart. It's like right there. It's really good. Like that's, that's God for you. Yeah. You can give him like the things you're angry about, frustrated about, sad about, like the things you're anxious about, happy about, like even the good things, lay them at the

feet of the Lord and he will literally like time them out for you in the way that he sees fit. And that just like opened up everything for me. And I was like, dang, that's crazy. That's really, really crazy. That's such a good analogy. That's so good. I love that so much.

So it's actually her knowledge that she can drop. That one's on the house. That's on the house. That's so funny. That's so beautiful and that's so true. Like so many people are walking through life just carrying it all. And it's like, I love the visual of like, but in your pushing it, like you

have it, it's right there. You literally have access. And you're trying to like juggle all these things. It's great. Just put them in the cart. I love that so much, man. That's going to speak to so many people and it's so good. Y'all's story is so cool and your life is so beautiful.

I want to ask lastly about your wedding because it was such a party and it's just like the most fun celebration. I actually watched the intro to y'all's wedding this morning, like all your friends coming, your parents coming and the dancing. Like it just, that's what a wedding should feel like and should be like.

Can y'all just tell us a little bit about your wedding and the joy that y'all felt that day? Cause it's so beautiful. It was so fun. So fun. It was like the most fun wedding I've ever been to, which was awesome. It was so cool to see like such a mix of like our friends from the industry, our friends from home,

like our families and like, I don't know, it was just an awesome day of celebration where we got to like stand up and say,'t know, it was just an awesome day of celebration where we got to like stand up and say, you know, like we love each other so much and we're putting God at the center of our relationship and to be able to like make that declaration in front of our friends and family, especially like people that had seen

such a transformation in us. Like there were so many people from the era of our lives where we were doing the show in New York. Like, so many people from the cast where we met, so many people that had seen us in a lower point in our walks with the Lord were like, we were, we had sort of fallen out of rhythm with him. And I think for them to see the transformation

in our lives was so powerful too. And like, to get to stand up and know that we were like doing it together and that God had called us to be married and love each other and find him more deeply in our love for each other. And to get to show that to our friends was so special and that's important. Yeah. And it's like, you know, I think so many people these days are like, you know, why get married? They're like, why get baptized?

Why like do these things? But those are your moments to make like a public declaration and confession of like your faith, your love. And it's like, it's not just about you. It's about the people you invite too, you know? And so like that, it was just so beautiful and like seeing like your friends and family. Some you could tell like they were from their dance era

They're dancers, you know, and like they jumped in and I just had like the confidence to do it But it's like they did it because they love y'all and because like that's what y'all That's what y'all's relationship has like it's been a bonding force in y'all's relationship and it's just so beautiful and I wanted to bring this up because I was thinking about y'all this morning and I thought about the verse, like two are better than one. And it's just so true. But that verse, it's like two are better than one for they have like a better return for their labor.

And I thought about y'all like literally doing your work together. And that verse is so like a picture of y'all's life. But it's so interesting how you said when y'all first started, y'all literally go in different rooms and come back like, here's my choreographer, here's your choreographer. And like in this world we live in, it's so individual,

like individualism is such a big thing. Like this is my thing, this is my thing. Like should I do my own TikTok? Should you have your own? Like that is such a thing, you know? But like what has been the beauty of doing it together and continuing to do it together? Like what is some of y'all's favorite things that you've learned in getting to do it together?

done, but imagine doing it by yourself. That is just wild to think about. I'm not going to dance with Pentatonix by myself. That's weird. That's so weird. No one's coming to that show. Pentatonix would kick me out. You're not helping ticket sales get out of here. Like all that stuff, it's just like, imagine doing it by yourself. Like we just have so much fun. Well, and I think that a career in dance is very physically and mentally demanding, and to have each other to lean on is really amazing. I mean, like, I know you've gotten a glimpse of it

with Dancing with the Stars, and it's like, when, I don't know, when you're on a bus for like a month, it's like, it's crazy. Your whole routine gets blown up and like, it's really, it's strenuous to be traveling all the time and to be like, in front of audiences all the time. And it's good to have a person that can keep you grounded and remind you who you are and like, be with you when it gets tough.

And it's just amazing to have somebody to lean on. And it's such an opportunity that I think is really cool that God really has a chance to show me other avenues that I can strive in and other avenues that you can strive in because we have, we work so well together. We have very different strengths. But we do have very different strengths, but those strengths work so well together. We have very different strengths. But we do have very different strengths, but those strengths like work so well in tandem.

And we probably would have never figured that out if we hadn't worked together. And like come into our purpose in an even deeper way, if we hadn't have found that in teamwork. That's so cool. I just love your story so much. I've always been a fan, but now I'm even more so of just who y'all are and the story that y'all tell.

Lastly, I wanna ask about this because last night, y'all gave Honey the cutest card game ever. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh, she was so excited. She's like, can we play when we get home? Which we didn't end up getting home till so late, but I cannot wait to play it. And so tell everybody about the card game y'all started

and where to get it because this is very exciting. Everyone who's ready to dance now, you have an invitation to dance. That's so true and that is my favorite thing about the card game is that it's not just for dancers. I honestly think it's more fun if you play with people that don't dance because it's hilarious and it's supposed to.

Like karaoke, it's kind of better when you can't dance. It is like karaoke. Yes, it is exactly like that. It's so fun, totally for the whole family. It's a dance card game where you make up, it's basically what you watch us do online, just shoved into a card game box. So good.

And so you can make up your own dances with like random song, random persona. It's hilarious and fun. You can do with a friend, you can do with solo. Yeah, it's kind of like funky dance charades. It's definitely a trip. I'm so excited. It's available at Walmart. It is, it's kind of like funky dance charades. It's definitely a trip. I'm so excited. And it's available at Walmart.

It is, that's so exciting. Which is so cool and so crazy to say every single time. We're so thankful for that, but yeah, you can pick it up at Walmart. It's called Make a Dance. Make a Dance. It's super fun. Okay, Make a Dance, and you can get it online too,

like Amazon, anywhere. Okay, awesome. Everyone, go check that out and go get your dance on. We're actually going on a family vacation in two weeks, and I am totally bringing it. And we'll definitely be posting some of that. Lots of videos. Some good videos. But thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you for sharing your story.

Being who you are could not cheer you on any louder from this point on. And thanks for sharing your story with all of us. Oh, my gosh. Thanks for having us. You and your family have been so kind and welcoming to us. We've had the best time. You gotta come back. We gotta. Gotta have more crawfish.

I know. Be dream about the crawfish till next time. She really will be. I am obsessed. you