WHOA That's Good Podcast - Fan Favorite: Si, Willie, & Al Robertson Answer if He Is the One

Episode Date: July 20, 2026

Sadie assembles a team of marriage experts — a combined 134 years of marriage advice! — ready to take on a big question: How do you know he's "the one?" Uncle Si, Willie (Sadie's dad), and Willie's big brother, Al, join Sadie for a fun conversation about relationships, marriage, and the only question you really need to ask about someone you're considering spending the rest of your life with. And with these four, you know there are going to be some fun laughs too! This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored by: https://loveoneinternational.org/whoa — For just $20 a month you'll provide life-saving support to a child in need. Plus, right now, when you join The Love Club, you’ll receive an exclusive Love Club hat! https://go.goodranchers.com/WHOA — Get $50 off your first order and get free meat with every order on top of the $50 off if you decide to start a plan today! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Happy Wednesday, everybody. I hope you're having a great week, but it is about to get, I would say so much better, but it might get pretty crazy for the next hour because I have invited three very unhinged guests on this podcast. However, this is why I asked the three of these incredible men and my family on the podcast. One, they have been the biggest podcast that we have had on well, that's good, because you guys have loved the conversations we've had with them. But two, because so many of you guys ask for relationship advice. We have so many relationship advice questions sent into us literally week after week.

And I feel like these days people are so picky about who the one's going to be and you're searching for this like perfect prince charming. And maybe you're just not looking in the right place. But these three men on the podcast, these bearded men, a little while, a little crazy, have years of marriage experience under their belt. And so I am so excited that I'm going to get to ask my dad, Willie, my uncle Allent, and my uncle Sy, their best relationship advice and ask them the questions that you guys actually sent in. So I'm super excited about this. By the way, they didn't know this was the topic. But who better to have for relationship advice and people who have been married for so many years? So I'm going to start with the question that I'm wondering if you guys will be able to answer.

How many years have each of you been married? Dad, we'll start with you. 32. 32. 40 for me this year. Wow. Next week it'll be 40 years. That's incredible.

Uncle Sy? Well, 71, so it's 50 something. 50 something. 53 or 54? I thought you were saying 71 years of marriage. I was like, I think you're off. What, April, 70, something. 71.

I actually got out of the out from under contract with the United States of America Army. Okay. And then when I went before the judge, I had to get him to throw out all the three-day waiting periods and all this junk. You know, and he said, wait a minute, son.

You just got out of a four-year contract with the military and you fixed a sign one for a lifetime. I said, yeah, if you'll do the paperwork and okay, you know, wave the days. You know, so he did. And he said, okay. All right. Could you not do them both?

Could you not be in the military and get married? Well, no, no. I was just, I mean, on your contract, I didn't know. I got out. I got out from one to one and then signed one for, you know. I just didn't know if it was like you had to wait until you got out of that. I don't know. I didn't want about this advice, you know, I had to wait until I got out of the old contract.

You weren't made. You can't be making all these new contracts. You do know, you do know, you weren't married to the U.S. military. Well, they thought I was. Okay. That was on their part, you know, bad thinking. You know, I didn't leave. I live and, you know, dream this mess, you know, I got drafted.

You know, I'm like Ron White when he said, hey, I didn't get drunk in public. I got drunk in the bar and they threw me in public. That's the way I worked with the military. That's his marriage advice. That's your marriage advice. Well, I tell you what, I'm saying. So how many years do we decide you've been married for it? He's un-sure.

71. Do the math, boys. It's just a question, Mark. It would be, do the math. He's 71. I'm 76. 53 years, that's incredible. So we have 53 years.

What are you talking about? What was the 71? What was the 71? He got married in 71. Oh, the year was 70. Okay, I thought you were saying. 71. Okay.

54 years, though, is incredible. 50 years. 32 years. So you guys can see now while I have you all in the podcast. This is like a lot of advice that you guys have to give. I mean, it really is incredible and something that I'm so inspired by to look up to so many people in our family with. The whole kid, too, it has learned.

to say yes ma'am at a very early stage in the marriage. Learn to say yes ma'am. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. It's a lot of heartaches and a lot of presents, a lot of flowers. You know, just learn to say, yes, ma'am, you're right. Well, hey, that's good advice because people ask what your best piece of marriage advice would be.

And so would you say that's one of your best pieces? That's one of the best ones. I love that. And then the next one, okay, no, let me rephrase you. That's the second. The first one is, okay, do you. you have a relationship with the Creator? That would be Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

Okay, tell me. That's the first. That's good. Tell me how you feel like, because there's a lot of listeners or podcasts who are believers in a lot, who maybe aren't believers and haven't seen marriage last, you know, 53 years and they haven't seen anyone

in their family's marriage last that long. How do you feel like your relationship with the Creator, with the Messiah, has actually impacted your long-lasting marriage? Hey, it's everything. It's good. Okay, because, you know, I was sitting and watching TV today and listen to Christian pop music, okay? And I was thinking about the whole world, we're very unappreciative, okay?

Number one, God created all this wonderful creation for us, okay? All the food that's there for us, you know, the fish, the mammals, the fruit, the vegetables, okay? And most people don't even think about that. You know, all of that was here for you to begin with, okay? It was there. You didn't have to go look for it. It was given to you. You know, and all of it is a gift.

Mm-hmm. You can't pay it back. You can't earn it. You know, all of it's a gift. So, yeah. I'm also thankful for TVs to watch Christian pop music home. Something else to be thankful for. No, no, I'm serious.

Hey. There is not enough appreciation, you know, because we've got the United States of America is the greatest country on earth. Okay. You know, anytime you drive by somebody's house and there's three annual automobile sitting in the, and then they're going, woe is me. Yeah, 90% of a country is obese. Okay. Okay. Hey, look.

You're all in there all ways. Oh, and I'm laughing at obesity. I'm laughing at obesity. I'm laughing. No, it's 65, too. That's the real. Well, you've got obese, and then you've got obese. Well, no, no, but I'm just saying.

I'm not part of that either. You're not part of that. You really don't. Only in this country, get a man to have a turbwide trailer with a dagum American flag on the top of it. That should be seen from space. Look at it, look at it from the satellite. You'll see his house.

No red, white, blue, baby, and all I got. I love what you're saying. The one thing we have been really trying to teach, honey, is gratitude. I think we probably say to honey at least 10 times a day, are you grateful? Are you grateful to do that? And then she'll be like, yes, I'm grateful. Even before, she'll be like, hey, mommy, can I have a popsicle because I'm grateful? But we're just trying to teach her like, you should be grateful for the things you have

and the opportunities that we get to be a part of because it is a gift. And it's so easy to just, you know, think that's normal or think that's life. No, you got to be grateful. This is something that's not promised to us every day. And I want to say something about St. Christine's relationship because obviously I was around early to watch them. And side being in the military for 24 and a half years. And had, what, four tours at least overseas. You're in Germany.

No, I spent 12 and a half years in Europe. All right. So half of that time. The one in Vietnam. Half of that time in Europe. And so it's, and I'll say this for all. military families, me just watching side, Christine, it is not an easy life to have somebody gone for months or even a year at a time to come home, to take care of kids, to move your

whole family without your husband being there. And look, Christine did all that on her own. I know it. And so that's why I'm saying. I would just leave, okay, and she would take care of all. And that's, I've always appreciated. I mean, you know, 54 years of marriage would be amazing for anybody, but for a military families, I think it's even more amazing.

It is, but it's a strange, okay, like I missed a lot of my kids stuff. Okay, and I always said I thought I was a horrible father until Christine, when I would say that, when I was down on myself and having a pity party, she would break out the photo album. So, well, hey, what about this right here? What about this, you know? They got me, and I don't know if everybody's ever seen it, you know, I was Easter Bunny, a six foot three. pink Easter bunny and full costume. Okay, delivering eggs to all the kids.

Okay, so stuff like that, she would break out the photo album and say, well, right, no, you don't, when you was home, you was home all the way. Yeah. Okay, it was, you know, I'm all in, in other words. That's good. It makes me think of that verse, like,

two are better than one, you know, and it talks about, like, pity a man who falls and has no one to pick him up. And, like, it's those moments in marriage where you really see that verse come to life because you're down on yourself. People, if you haven't been affiliated with the military, they have no idea what sacrifice the wife goes through when her man goes off to war and has to go places.

Okay, because she's got to be both mom and dad then. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, yeah, it's a tough go. And a lot of marriages are caused because. I lost because of that, okay, because of the stress just put on them for being alone. You know, because, hey, two can fight better than one. You can turn them back to back, you know, and see them coming from every direction.

That's good. Okay, by yourself, okay, they can slip up on you. Yeah, that's good. That's so beautiful. You know, Uncle L. and you and Lisa were just on the podcast recently, and that has been one of our biggest podcasts, not even just in numbers of people listening to, but just the response people have had, just learning so much from your story and your marriage. So that was kind of what inspired me to bring you all back and talk about relationship advice.

I know you gave a lot of advice on that podcast, but what are some of those things that you look at and go like, man, this is the best piece of advice I could give after, you know, 40 years of marriage. Friends, it is so encouraging to see what can happen when a whole community decides to keep showing up with love. And that's exactly what has been happening through Love One International's Love Club. So many of you have already joined and I am incredibly grateful because that steady support is helping. change real lives and y'all are just the best for doing that. Loveland International serves children in Uganda who are facing severe malnutrition by providing the life-saving medical care and nutrition that they need and they don't just step in for one moment and then walk away.

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Visit Love One International.org slash woe. Again, that's LoveOneinternational.org slash woe. Well, and as you know, because we shared it on your podcast, our marriage was just sort of had, it's not two halves, but it's 15 and 25. I mean, there were two really different marriages because the first one was a lot of struggle. You know, Jesus wasn't a part of our heart, even though we were right there in the church,

kind of hiding in plain sight. And then when Lisa finally made a full all-in move to God, you know, obviously everything changed for us as we talked about. But so my advice comes more off the last 25 years is when you both finally get in the same lane and you're both finally going for the same goals, is really just to be there and help each other in that journey.

I mean, Lisa's amazing. She does so much to encourage me just by the way she is. And a lot of things I'm not good at, she is. And so we do that together, you know. And I mentioned on your podcast that the first advice I got was never compliment bad cooking because you'd eat it the rest of your life. And it's funny because your dad's here now. And I don't know if dad told him that as well, but since your mom can't cook,

I guess in his case it was be prepared to cook for your marriage, right? Because that's what happened. I mean, you know, it didn't have to worry about compliment bad cook, and it just never really took off. That's the greatness of marriage, though, and I'll use a wagon with horses, two horses. Yeah. Okay, your first few years was rocky, okay, because y'all was harnessed. You was married, but you was pulling different directions. You wasn't working as a team.

Right. And when things got right, when God moved in and got the marriage got right. Yeah. Then it wasn't pulling two directions. Well, the way we describe it size, we say the first 15 years of our marriage, we were playing tennis, but we were playing singles tennis. Wow, yeah. And then the last 25 years, we decided to pay doubles, and our enemies were on the other side. But we were now engaged together as part of it.

You were talking about smack, take that. Smack, take that. Well, I wasn't asked me to smack to the rackets out. No, no, and it was together. Yeah, exactly. You know, won't get out of my house. That's why I look at it. So I was basically combined tennis and MMA fighting.

Just in case you're a visual learner. Let's see this podcast. You'd ask Ms. Kay, if she was here right now, okay, you've got to fight for your marriage. That's true. That's her line. That is true. Look, it's just like a garden. Okay, if you're going to want good vegetables in your garden,

then you're going to have to prune, pull the bad weeds. and throw them away, you know, and then you go ahead to nurture your garden. Well, your relationship, Byron's relationship, you've got to nurture it. That's great. You're good with analogies. I think that's like the tenth analogy he's given on this podcast.

No, seriously. The battle rages. Okay, that's why I was saying, hey, smack him, y'all. Because it does. The battle's raging here, guys. The evil one, hey, and guess what he attacked? He attacked the family unit. Mm-hmm.

It's true. It's very true. All right, dad, 32 years into marriage. What's some of the best relationship advice you have? Well, yeah, they gave all the good ones, so they're going to be hard to beat. Way behind in this race. Got a dip into the sign analogy bag. He's got more analogies.

I mean, I've always said try to give more than you take. And so just from my mentality, it's kind of like, Back when we used to have things called checkbooks, and you're supposed to. Me and size still have. You still got a checkbook? That's one I'm still struggling with. Do you know the other night, we ordered pizza, and the guy shows up at the door, and I'm like, Mom, do you have cash? And she's like, do you take a check?

And he's like, no. That was this week. A check check? In 1996, do you take a check? She was about to write him a check for the pizza. Man, good thing. Yeah, what was she going to do next? Barter?

She ended up, I said, I'll just call and give him my car number. We'll trade you some eggs and cheese and whale blubber. I was like, hey, look around. Look around. Do you see anything if you like? It was funny because she was kind of like far away. And I was at the door. And she's like, ask him if he takes a check.

And I'm thinking like, he doesn't take a check. And I'm like, do you take a check by any chance? He's like, no. And I'm like, all right, I'm just going out to call. And then mom was like, I found cash and came running out. I don't know what this says about her marriage. I didn't know she had a check. I didn't know we still had one.

I thought that was a... Maybe this seems to be a counseling session. She has a checkbook. But, you know, she never has cash. That is true. I was surprised she pulled out as cash. I wasn't there, obviously, because I am the bank. It is true.

You weren't there, obviously. I'm an ATM. Because we ordered pizza. Because mom wasn't cooking. Which means I'm not there. Yeah. That's true. Okay, but back to the checkbook.

Yeah. So I never did balance it. just because I never could figure that out. But I would always just know I've got, yeah, I've got to put more in than I spend. And so you just kind of had this knowing. And so I feel like that's marriage as well as to where you're giving and not just taking it. Because there'll be times where you'll tend to take way too much. And just like a checking account, you can overdraft that sucker, you know,

and then you'll have problems down the road if that happens. I also like the teamwork. I mean, I think when you figure out how to work as a team, I actually love that tennis. It's actually really good, yeah. Definitely been there before where you tend to fight against instead of fighting together. And also, I think, you know, for us especially,

is just trying to take yourself too seriously and have fun. You got to have fun. You got to have fun. You're going to do stupid stuff sometimes. Because everything's so serious, you know, in life. and so I think sometimes we can get too serious. And so sometimes life is too short to be miserable. Yeah.

You know, I like what you said at the beginning. Keep it positive. It's so true. Okay. Keep your relationship as far as it is up to you. Keep it positive, laugh a lot and smile a lot. Okay. Yeah.

The material we... Worst thing you can do is go through life miserable. Yeah. We use the material still to this day. Well, it's been around a few years that Bill Harley did. And it's called a love bank model. And it's just what you were describing. I mean, it's a bank analogy about when you're putting more love into the relationship

instead of pulling out all the time, you're going to build up a bank that's going to be there for the difficult times. You go through the rough seasons. And so just like your bank account. It's got to work. That's God's thing because, hey, what did he say? He said it's better to give than receive. The giver always gets more than the receiver.

Always. He always does. I love that. You are talking about laughing at yourself. I feel like all of you guys are really good at laughing at yourself. I think that's like a Robertson strength and something that's really valuable in our family is the ability to laugh and not take yourself too seriously, not take life too seriously. And I remember Christian and I got some marriage advice before we set into marriage and they said,

there will be a moment in an argument where you're both mad and everything's heated. And someone does something kind of funny. You know, it's like you say something that like didn't actually make sense or something happens externally. That's funny. And it's like your pride tells you, do not laugh, do not laugh. Like, hold it serious because you're going to be mad. And the person was like, just laugh.

Like, just let the argument break. And there has been times in our marriage where it's like, everything's heated. And it really does happen where somebody will do something just kind of stupid. And like, it is hard to laugh in those moments. But allowing yourself to kind of laugh does help a lot. But, hey, laughter is a good medicine. Okay, because if you're having a bad, serious arguments, screaming at each other.

And you've, most of the times if you're clear your head and step back and look at what you're arguing about or screaming about, it ain't worth the effort you've put into it. Yeah. But it was sheer stupidity to begin with. That's the kind of arguments I'm talking about. Obviously, there are a bigger moment. So there are some stupid arguments you start. And then you're like, we are literally fighting over the fact that there's tomato sauce on the

carpet. Like, it can be the dumbest stuff. But this is kind of funny. This week, Christian might make me take. this out of the podcast, but this is just hilarious timing. So we have been just like, just not seen eye to eye this week. We were just frustrated each other so often. Well, I don't know if you all notices, notices, but Christian has been growing like a really good beard. And his beard was looking good, but in my mind, I'm like, I think the beard's the problem.

I think the beard is like making you like too serious or something. Like, I don't know if it's like booster testosterone or like. I ain't so proud of it. Yes, what has happened. So I'm just like thinking in my head like I think he needs to shave like I think I think we need like a fresh start and so we're on a walk and I'm like I think you should shave your beard which honey said something first that kind of gave me like the opening honey is like daddy you should shave your beard and I'm like yeah you should shave your beard and he's like you you think I should shave your beard that you've been saying it looks you and I'm like yeah but I think I think we just need like a fresh start like I think that the beard is just like making you take yourself too seriously or something and he goes do you know that's why I shave my beard

three years ago. And I was like, what? He's like, you said the same thing to me three years ago when I had a beard. And I was like, it is the beard that proves my point. And said then, maybe that's what's wrong with all of us. No, he shaved his beard. I promise you. What am I told you moments? There was a difference in his personality yesterday. He was so much lighter. I was like, I think you just needed the baby face back because that beer was taking life too seriously. So I don't know if that has obviously been fine for you all, but sometimes you just need to shave your beard. You see a fresh start. And the past...

I never heard that. Wow. I've never even heard that. We actually looked it up if beards make your, like, testosterone levels higher or something. And it said, no, it doesn't. But I personally think that there's something to that. Really? No, seriously. And I wasn't saying it to be funny.

I was like... Were you pulling his beard like a night when he slept and stuff? I mean, maybe you are secretly sabotaging this. I was just like, it just... He took on a new persona when he had the beard. It was like... more like just serious, like his personality. The macho and he came out.

Now, what is this beer? Was this beer like a Captain America looking beard or was it Michael Sarah? It looked good, okay? It looked good. It wasn't like a, you know. No, it wasn't crazy. No, not enough. It wasn't even me.

It was, it wasn't. I was like. No, she, it's the attitude he had. It was like, it was like, it was producing. It was not. It was producing. masculinity. That's what she's trying to say. It was the feel. There was something deeper beyond the surface. But anyways, that's just my small theory. Well, before my beard, I had a super feminine

accent. Remember I was like, I often got mistaken for a woman on the phone. And then when I grew the beard, people started calling him Willa. My voice deepened. I learned something there. That's when I actually, you know, what's interesting about the shaving of the beer the last time I shaved my beard. Do you remember when this was? Shave, shaved, not. I do remember when it was, but I don't, like, I remember you walking in the house without your beer, but I don't remember it. Bella was young, like two, maybe. I mean, that's how long ago it was. So I thought, in my mind, I thought Corey was going to be like, oh, look at this, look at what I've been missing out. Yeah, I didn't build this up, you know, like, why would you cover this up?

Yeah. Not the reaction. Complete opposite reaction. Please put it back. And she went, oh, wow, it looks so different. And I'm like, that's not a good reaction. And I haven't shaved since. As we're celebrating 250 years of America this Fourth of July, here's a question. I feel like more of us should be asking how much of our meat on Americans' grills is actually coming from America.

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Hey, who knows? That's just like a little sidebar from marriage advice. Now they were older, though, and side just found this out, too, because Jase did this a few years ago, when you shave your beard off at IRAs now, it's a huge mistake. Because a lot has happened under there. That was rough. Man, that was. I mean, a lot has happened, and it hadn't been good. None of it has been good.

None of it is good. Man, that turf needed covering up, man. That needed some hayback on it. Mia just busted out ball it. I mean, that tells you all you need to know. They all did. Like, I wasn't sure if he was healthy. My favorite was Phil was making it feel.

It was like, yeah, do you see that face? He's like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what you'll look like if you do that. That's why I never shave my beard. Well, that's good. I'm going to tell Christian, don't shave your beard. Like, you can shave your beard now and then later in life when you're older if you want to have, you know. Remember when Phil shaved his beard last?

How did you remember? I remember. It was a bet at church. I remember. 88 was the last time I saw it. It was a bed at church with him and the preacher. And so the preacher, dad had to shave his beard and wear a suit, I think, to church. And I forgot what the preacher.

And so the dad lost the bet. Did they pull that off? He did it. But it was such. The preacher had to leave the ministry. That was what he got. Oh, great. Get rid of him.

Okay. He's been better. He lost his job over the bat. He's very bitter But Phil's face, it looked like somebody took a samurai sword and cut off half... I mean, he looked like he had no chin.

I just remember looking and going, he is the strangest looking, man, because his, like, my face is this size. And so, like, he was like, there you are you. And I'm like, man, that's this too weird. Y'all is, yeah, it's so long and so thick that it would totally change the shape of your face.

Yeah, that would be so crazy to see you. I think we were living at two mama's house moving into our new house when you shaved your beard. Because I remember you walked into Mama's house. And I remember you, like, I was looking at you like, and you're like, do you notice anything different? I was like, I couldn't figure out what I was looking at. I was like, what is happening? Which is the same when you cut your hair.

And I was like, I thought that was that Nash. Yeah, none of y'all recognized. Including dad. Willie comes in and sits down and dad looks over and gives him the nod, which is mean somebody just wanted into dad's house and never says a word to. Well, we talked. No, we start talking for like 15 minutes. And then.

Everybody said, well, is that? Well, he just said, who are you? I was like, I'm your son. Yeah, I don't know who you, he was up. I thought you just wanted to Gary's friend. I didn't know who you were coming in. He came in like he owned the joint, you know? But you knew when he gave you the knife.

He didn't know who you were. That was so crazy. Okay, getting bad to relationship advice, though. This is where you knew this was going to go. I knew. Well, I threw it out there when I knew talking about Christian's beard scenario was going to take us on a whole ramp. Actually, when that's negative. I was curious.

You know, you're saying that was a negative. It was. That's off-brand for us. It really worked for y'all because y'all have had beards in 52 years of marriage. And, you know, we're five years in and I'm thinking the beer's not working for our marriage. I think we should just go clean-shamed. It's early. That's true.

Hey, to each their own. Okay. I like, he's ugly. No. That's what I'm like, don't cover that face. You look so good. What if I said that, like, to Corey, like, your hair. and then she's bald, you know, like.

Well, I was approaching it gently. Well, I saw that problem. I was approaching it gently. I was like, perhaps that attitude. What about your hair style. Hey, I can see it. She comes in with a flat top. I'm like, oh, okay.

Whatever it takes with the relationship. Hey, there are certain things that, I don't know if this is true. Maybe this is bad advice. But I feel like there are certain things like the guys should not say to the girl, but the girl kind of can say to the guy, where it comes to, like, hair, you can be like, hey, I think beard or no beard. We're all aware of that. Yeah, but like, if you were like...

We would not be married this long if we didn't learn that one. That's a number one. Like, you don't mention... That is true. Because if I said, hey, I think maybe no beard is better, you look so cute, whatever, it's fine. But then if Christian's like, man, blonde over brunette or whatever, that would be like, dude, for real?

Mom had a golf ball-sized thing on her throat, and I didn't say it. I mean, obviously I recognize it, and I'm like, I ain't going to be that guy. She goes, it's like, I've got a thyroid problem. Like, did you notice this? I'm like, kind of. No, you said, yes, I thought you were growing an apple's apple. That's what you said. You think I'm going to say it?

I'm like, nope. Like somebody teed up a golfer. I'm like, I ain't saying a word about that. It's like the, it's like the, it's like the classic question. It's just made my butt look big. And the answer is, I love your butt. Yeah. I mean, there's, you got to know your spouse.

We don't get into any sort. I love your butt. You have to know your spouse and what they need. And, you know, some people like Bella. Bella, like loves honesty and she can take, well, I don't know if she can take it. You know, it's one of those. You can dish out if you can take it. But, you know, you know the spouse.

And I know Christian can take that, you know, comment for me. But he also knows that I don't want to take that comment for him. so don't tell me why I should do in my hair. I love the honesty podcast. This is it right here. Yesterday, mom's talking to me. I'm looking at her feet, and it looks like she's been like running through a burn pot.

Like, her feet look dirty. And I was just like, wow, your feet, your toes kind of look dirty. Yeah, I was like, what is that? And she was like, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's my 20 minutes later. She was like, okay, I'm going to get my toenails. She literally straight there to get them done. Oh, that is so true.

That's hilarious. Okay, so one of the biggest questions, I'm not kidding, we get this question asked so many times, anytime we say, what do you want to stop about in the podcast? People always ask the question, how do you know if the person is the one? And it's actually kind of sad because there's so much anxiety around this question. It's like, how do you know if he's the one? I don't want to make the wrong decision. And a lot of people asking this question, there's a lot of people who are single asking this

question more generically, but a lot of people like, I'm in a relationship. I'm scared to make the wrong. decision kind of thing. And I don't know if that's because they know like they're red flags, I need to get out. Or if it's just like this big anxiety of how do you choose the one to commit to a lifetime? Like you said, you're going into this contract for a lifetime. It's obviously a huge decision. Thinking back on that time of your life, how did you feel confident enough to know this is the person who I'm going to marry? Did you feel 100% confident? Maybe even is a good question. But we'll circle back to that. Dad, you want to go first? Yeah.

I mean, I may have to carve that question up and really think about it as to why that's the case. I don't know. I could ask Sinehouse since you guys are older than me. It seems like that may be a more nuanced question, 2024 type question. I'm not sure if that was the same 50 years ago if that was the biggest burning question. And maybe I'm wrong. No, I agree. In fact, I was going to say, and mine least,

Lisa's relationship. And we would disagree. If she were here, she would say, even her mindset 40 years ago, that I was the one. I mean, she had been in love with me since she was young. She mentioned that on the podcast. But I didn't, I didn't believe that then. I still don't believe that to this day. I don't think there is the one. I think there's the one you decide I want to spend the rest of my life with and commit to this person. That's the way I viewed Lisa. It wasn't like I was like, oh, man, she's my soulmate forever. She was the woman that I knew. I'd just come out of the world and I knew she loved me. I knew that she thought I was the one.

But I didn't view her the same way. I thought I'm making a commitment. I was like, Cy, I was like, I'm all in. I'm a brand new Christian, and I want to live my life with this person. And I knew it wasn't going to be easy. And so what's happened to our marriage over the course of the years, I made a commitment all in. So we went through a bunch of difficulty,

but I was still committed through the process no matter what. So I never viewed it as sort of this mythical thing about the one. I just think it was the mindset of this is the one I want to spend the rest. And once you make the call, we're in. I mean, we're committed. We're going to get through this. We're going to get through whatever or shortcomings. So in my case, well, I definitely didn't view it that way, you know, 40 years ago.

But if Lisa over here, she would say she did. Well, I think that's better, though. I think it's good to not look at it like that because I think if you view it as like there is one person out there for you, you have to find the one. Then I think if you get married and then you go through hardship, it leaves more room open to be like, did I choose the wrong one? That's right. I married the wrong one.

It's like, no, it's not like you committed to this person and you didn't make the wrong decision. You didn't, that's not like, oh, there's someone else out there who would have been more perfect for you. I think that the thing is, like someone said it like this. Like, could you marry this person? Yes. Is this God's best for you?

And that's kind of whenever I was dating. I was kind of looking like that. Like, I could marry this person. I don't think that this is God's best for me and where I'm going in life. And that kind of help me. make that decision. Whereas like when Christian and I came together, I thought he was absolutely incredible. He is the one for me. I knew he was the one. I felt like it was God's best for me. Our lives were aligning. The dreams that we had, passions we had, our morals. Everything was like aligning. Was it perfect? No. Is it like some kind of, you know, I found the unicorn in the world? I think that's the thing because I think when you put that pressure on yourself to find it, it's like you're doing it. Like you have to find the one. And if you don't, what if you miss it? And then you set yourself up for failure. I don't think it's like that. You find the person, you feel like is God's best for you. You make a commitment and then you go through life together, committed to the covenant you made for the Lord. And you

have God, you know, helping you stay together. So I love that you said that because I actually think it's that mystery. It's that it's the one. What if there's another person? What if I do this and I make a mistake that like puts people in that anxious state? It's not necessary. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales, using automation, analytics, and smarter workflows to simplify campaign delivery and access better data across the business. The result? Less time spent on operations, more time connecting brands with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. And I think that's how people, you know, especially now, we try to make sure, do all your, we're like, let's like you're on a vacation. You're like, you want to make sure everything's perfect. And a lot of times you're letting down because you're like, oh, this is not what the,

it's not what the picture looked like. And this is not. And so we're trying to do that with human beings and people. And so I think you definitely need to look at warning signs. You definitely need to look at, oh, this person is not, you know, we're not lined up on this or they don't seem as fun or they, man, they got angry really fast. You know, there's things that you can look at. I think parents play a role in that where they came from. Obviously, religion falls in that or how they view that. We're all going to change.

I mean, I would think I'm a lot different than I was at 18 years old, you know, just where I'm at now versus where I was then. But I knew Corey had a lot of the same, the same things that I liked we liked being together and and then we had went through with marriage counseling we went through you know just even telling your stories and where that's at so you definitely look at that but I think when you say is this you know the one then I start thinking well okay what does that mean is it the one of my 20s is one of my 30s what will happen when there's children what happens when there's I mean it's hard to go through all those scenarios and deeper than what you always just the one Okay, and it's more profound than that.

Okay, because you're hitting on the stuff that you need to look at. Look at the parents. How are they? You know, what are their beliefs, you know, what is their mode of operation? You know, how they, how do they, you know, it's deeper than that, okay. How does the mom treat the dad? How does the dad treat the mom? How do they view their dad?

How do they view their mom? All those things are so important. You're looking at two things, okay? individuals, okay, male, female, okay, and just you've got baggage, you've got sex baggage, both of you. So, you know, you've got to be realistic about what you're, what's going on here. What do you want out of this relationship? You know, what are you willing to put into this relationship?

It's deeper, it's deeper than most people because, oh, is he the one or she's the one? that's childish. Okay, you come in the real world. That's good. That's so good. Two different individuals. Come in the real world. You're two individuals.

You was raised different than he was raised. They believe different than you. So it's profound. Okay. So you need to be, you know, looking at it realistically. Yes. And you're talking about, you know, what have you got in common? Yeah.

You know, what have you got in common? What are your beliefs? Or do you think alike? Yep. Because you're going to have differences, okay? Or are you okay with thinking differently? It's not. When I hear the one, it sounds like some kind of idealistic euphoria of like it's always going to be good.

Yeah. Because that was the one. I always feel like it leads that way. It's miraculous. But you know what happens where when you look at that way and that's where you go into it, said he's right, then you can also bring into what if they're not the one. But then the other thing is you leave no room for growth. In a relationship, it has to have room to grow into something better.

And I think Lisa mentioned this when we were on here, but she's recently been dealing with breast cancer and doing amazing. But she said, because we looked at it, she was more of the mystical, look, me more of the practical, we're just going to go through this life. That she said, and I was a little surprised when she said it, she said, now I know how much you love me. And first thing I took me back and I thought, well, babe, did you not think I loved you for it? She said, no, I knew you did.

She said, but I didn't know the level you did until you took care of me through this cancer stuff. And so I realized that was a growth on my part that God had brought into that. So I was in for all in through whatever happened. And so that has grown the relationship and the marriage in a good way. It's the thing about, okay, are you willing to put in the time? Yeah. Okay. That's right.

You've got to nurture this relationship. Okay. It's not miraculous. Okay. Two people coming together that men and female, it's not miraculous. You're going to have to put a lot of work involved in this. Okay. There's a lot of things that you're going to have to overlook and just accept.

You know, it's a thing, I guess the best way to say it's like, I guess the best way to say it, like you told me. You've got to grow together. Yeah, that's good. I think too, like, I love how we're kind of talking about it's not this miraculous, this mysterious thing. It's like, are you the one? And where's the sign from heaven where it's like, it's more profound than that. It's more practical than that. It's like, do you align in the things that are important in life? Are you, you know, is your faith at the center? How does their family do things? How does their family do things? Do you see yourself going in the same direction whenever you're... That's why I said, okay, the relationship with the creator,

with the Messiah is super important. Yeah, yeah. Okay, because when you two come together, okay, male and female, then children start happening. Okay, then it's a two ballgame, totally. New season, man. This is funny. So thinking about the fact that you said this is kind of a 2024 question,

I do think when you think about why people think that way. I mean, think about all the movies, you know, it is like serendipity. It's very miraculous. It's kind of cheesy almost because of how everything aligned and it is full of signs and the butterfly feelings and all the different things. And there's a part of that in relationship. Absolutely. Whenever you're first dating and it's all fun and stuff like that.

Well, then you throw in, okay? And there's a lot of it out there. Okay. He grew out with you. without a father. You had mom and dad that you were nurtured by your whole co-existence. Well, he didn't have a dad to show him how to be a man.

So you got some serious, serious issues are going to be happening. That's why, and it's a normal thing, okay, because like just to tell you about me, okay, when I thought, you know, me and Christine, You know, I actually called my mother and had a discussion with her and was asking the same question they asked. Mm-hmm. How did you know dad was the one?

You know, and mama told me and said, hey, look, you know. You said, he said, hey, he was my cousin, so. There's a little truth in that. Yeah, there's some truth. No, no, but I'm just saying, okay, you've got to look, okay. Next podcast. This is more, especially when you say, okay. Okay, you know, she didn't have a dad growing up.

Okay. He didn't. You know, there's so many human issues that come into play here. That's why I said, hey, no more you've got to be realistic. Yeah. Okay. This is not miraculous. And, hey, don't trust me.

Hey, you're going to have to get a job. We're not going to be able to live off of love. Say it. We're going to have a house to be living in. No. I mean, knowing Granny and Paula, I don't know that they sat around often and wondered. I wonder if I chose the right one. It was more of a roll up your sleeves mentality of survival.

Well, no, no. You know what I'm saying? Love and we're committed. And I'm not saying it has to be like that. That's why I said, hey, you got to be realistic about it. Yeah. But I think Sadie's right when she says you see that, especially in movies, and you see it now on social media.

You're looking at somebody who's putting all this stuff up where it makes it look like, and you're like, oh, I want that. And so I think a lot of people are waiting because they're going, oh, I've got to have the perfect one. And so the reason we've all been married a long time and we look as young as we do is because a lot of that time where a lot of people are spending waiting to find that out. We're already married.

And so we're already sleeves rolled up and doing that. I think Aunt Lisa were right. You don't know. You don't know if you're going to be courageous or you don't know if you're going to sacrifice until the situation comes out. It's kind of like if you think about presidents, like you got through the greatest presidents,

oftentimes it was because there were some world challenge or some national challenge that they stepped up and they pulled that off. And other ones just didn't have the opportunity because they didn't have the same challenge. And that is marriage. I mean, you don't know. Like when Corey and I were, you know, dating, we didn't go through. Okay, let's go through when we adopt a child and this happened. You know, how, I mean, those are, you don't see that until it comes. You can see some traits and you can hope.

And let's face it. And we can also just be like, oh, you. you're totally not what, you know, you can change or sin can come in or other things can happen, you know. Which is why. Or you don't, you're not courageous. You're not, you're not sacrificial or you wander off, you know, and say, that's it. I'm done with this.

Which is why the faith component is so important that we have something bigger than each of us even to help pull to. Because sometimes that's going to happen. Our marriage verse, our life verse, is Philippians 2, 1 through 5. Because in there, when Paul's talking to the church, he's talking about trying to have better relationships when he gets the end of it and talks about looking out for each other's interest better than the other. And he gets the end and said your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus. So he gives you that ultimate example to then go to because he knows it's going to be difficult. And who did, who did, had a more difficult time on earth than Jesus didn't? He wasn't

even married. Yeah. And so, but he shows us what it takes to do that for one another. So that's why it is important. I mean, Lisa and I never began the path we needed to until we got on the same page spiritually. And so to your audience, which is obviously younger, I would say work toward those goals now. Yeah. Because when you go through those things later, you're going to need that. I mean, you're going to need each other, but you're going to need something with the Almighty God. I always said this way, let me go check with a higher power. Mm-hmm. Yeah. See, I think the thing that's... I'm not quite sure how to handle this. Mm-hmm. Let me check with a higher power. Yeah. I feel like there's seasons in life where you're just

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I think the thing that's hard nowadays for those listening, especially the younger crowd, is that, you know, we have the Bible to learn this from. This is like the truth of God's word sets up the picture of marriage, you know, what God brought together, let no man separate. We have all of these things. But people aren't reading the Bible, then you don't have a structure of truth. You know, you don't have something to learn from. And then if people don't have parents who they've seen that example from,

then they really don't have that. And so they are learning from social media. Your picture of marriage is only what you see on social media, which isn't the place to share all the hard stuff. I mean, there are ways you can share some of that. You can be vulnerable, but in what, a 30-second reel, you know, a one-post slide. Most or not. But you can't see.

And most are not. Most are not going to show. None of us are going to show it. Not even is at the place to show it. I don't even think. I think sometimes it's not like, oh, I'm not. not trying to be super real on Instagram. It's just like, I don't feel like that's the place to share all the vulnerabilities of my marriage, you know? And so you can't look at that and go, man, this is the

whole picture of marriage, because that's not the place to show the whole picture of marriage. Or then you look at movies. Well, that's a created script and a line. So if you don't have your family to learn from, if you haven't gone to the word to learn from, and this is your picture, then it does give you a skew perspective. And I actually have an example of this. The other day, honey, came up to me. She's all. dressed up in her prince's outfit which is very on brand for honey and she walks up to me and she says mommy let's do a true loves kiss and she turns her head and she puts her hands on my face and she kisses me and she backs up and she goes that didn't work and i was so funny because i watched the movies

with her in all the moments as soon as they had the true love kiss it's like magic like you know the princess and the frog they turn from frogs to humans like all that something magical happens when that true love kiss. So Honey was like, we're about to have true love kids and something's about to happen. And then we kissed and she goes, it didn't work. Like, nothing happened. And I think that's a small example to show what a lot of people walk into when they walk into marriage without knowing that having a realistic view, you know?

You better be realistic, okay? Because, you know, life is tough. Okay. You know, and like you're talking about, okay, when the storm hits, okay, if you don't have something and anchor you down, what are you going to do? Mm-hmm. You know, because it's like to deal about, hey, if you won't stand for something, if you won't stand up for something, then you'll fall for anything. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And I think another thing is not even, not even the social media or that. We will look at people like, let's say you look at mom and I and say, well, look at that. 32 years of marriage. Look at the kids. You know, that's another thing. Like, did your kids turn out, you know, good? And so, but you forget, Al mentioned his marriage verse. Ours was, for the first 10 years, was Jesus wept.

Because Corey cried every other day that we were married. And so I had this unique way I make a very cry every day. Corey. But you don't know that. You don't see that today, do you? Like, you don't factor that in. You don't, you know, and so. once you factor that in, you know.

I mean, the first year, Corey, about 10 years into marriage, maybe 15. And Corey's like, yeah, we got married that first year. And I remember like, oh, you know, and after a year, I was like, what was I thinking? And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't know, were we, was that opening for me? Like, I didn't know what were we thinking. She was like, well, you know, it was hard. I was like, what were we thinking and get married?

I was like, I literally never thought we said, why did we get married? but apparently you were one year into this. And so you don't see the struggles which you come through. You will tend to look at and notice what the good things are, which is great. Yeah. But it's that you have to. This is so good, though. It's that, you know, is it the one?

And so I can look back. And I always say this about it. You can look back and go like, no doubt. This was the one. You know, I dated other people. Corey dated other people. Looking back in our life is like, oh, for sure. this is the one.

It's impossible to look forward and try to wager that and guess like I'm going to guess exactly what that is or I'm not going to get in a relationship until I know for sure. Sadly, a lot of people are just lonely waiting for what they think is the one. What made you the man you are, both of you? Biology? I don't know.

No, no. What made you the man that you are? Come on, Dr. Cy. I don't want to play this game. Why don't you just tell me what the Just tell me what baby's that. What made you the man you are? I'll tell you what made. Your hardships.

Yeah. All the hardships you would do, okay, is made you who you are and it also made Corey who she is. Yep. Yep. So true. Okay, because here's what happened. The storm arrived.

Okay. If you do it correctly, you come together and fight the storm. Mm-hmm. If you do it wrong, you try to separately, do it separately. Yeah. You're going, it's failure. Yeah. It's so true.

Everything you went through that was hard, okay, made you a better and a stronger man, and it made her a better and a stronger woman. Yep. You're right, Sam. It's so true. And actually, it's so cool to hear y'all say this. This is why this is, like, such incredible advice, especially for the young audience, because, you know, it's so much better.

We talk about relationship advice all the time, but I've only been married for five years. but get someone here who's been married for 52 years, 40 years, 32 years. Like now we're talking like real wisdom where you can look back and say these things. And I just think that a lot of people, just like that honey analogy, you go into marriage and you think it didn't work. Because you're not feeling the magic. She didn't feel the magic. You're not feeling the magic. Things aren't working out.

And then you think, oh, I picked the wrong one. And then, you know, people end their marriage so soon. But I love how you're like, you're looking at it. And you're like, man, the first 10 years, you know, this happened. And then for you, like 15 years, not that y'all didn't have great moments in between, great things happened, you had kids during that time, all that stuff, but it was really, really hard. But yet you stayed the course, and now here you are 32 years in, and you have just built such a beautiful legacy. You know, you have kids and grandkids, and we're working together in this

beautiful thing. Had you have gone in and said, well, that didn't work. You know, you would have never seen, I mean, Memo and Campbellville are such a good example of that because had Memo like he just said, that didn't work. You know, that was definitely not what I was expecting, but they stayed together. It would have altered everything. It would have been altered. We would not be here right now. It's not that it's not fixed.

That's not that it's not fixable. It just would have altered from what you see now. And I think that's a great, I think it's a super great point because you, you, you, I think sometimes, maybe perhaps some of your listeners may think, well, I'm not interested in what they're talking about. Like, I'm not interested in this, however you're living your life. I want to live exciting. And, you know, this is, you know, like you guys are, you know, they're not thinking about being in that moment and you're all our ages. But I promise you will be. You will be when you get to this point in your life. You will hope that you have, that you know that you can leave and you have

the security and you have the love and you have the trust and you have all this, you know, hardships that you've been through because I'm telling you when you you know there will be a time of your life when it's not all just in your 20s and just you know everything's so exciting and we're just going to travel and we're going to do this I'm telling you you'll want this

peace in your relationship at this age. No no because I'll use the Robertson family and use Phil Robertson as the center point okay if Bill Smith had not went to Phil Robertson and preached the gospel to him

none of us would be where we're at right now. None of us. Destinies that are determined by a decision. It's usually a decision to fight and to do what's right. That's why I was saying, okay, everything that challenged you, okay, has made you a better person. Because, hey, like you were talking about, you went through it. Yep.

Oh, you're not interested in what we're telling you? Well, you're not interested in life. Okay, because trust me, when I tell you, the storm's coming. Okay, whenever it hits, you're going to have to deal with it. Yep. Okay, and that's why I said, hey, if you don't have a relationship with a creator, you're doing it alone, and tough gold, tough gold, my man, our lady. Tough gold, my lady.

Come, come, my lady. But I'm serious, okay. You know, hey, life is tough, okay? You're not wrong. Well, and it's not even, I think, it's probably the storms will come about like they do in life. You know what I'm saying? We don't live through, it's not storming every day, you know. They're going to crop up, they're going to blow through.

And a lot of days it would be great. Because you got to, this is what I love this quote, you got to learn to ride the waves of life that slam you into the rock of ages. Because it will feel like waves sometimes. Sometimes you're going to be riding the wave surfing it. Sometimes you're going to be under it. Yeah, you're going to be under it. Yeah, and you've got to learn to ride the wave because seasons come and seasons go. You just can't factor in all the possible.

I hear people, you know, I can just hear them talking about, it's not always just, you know, marriage or the right relationship. I hear it about jobs. And I hear it about, should I live here? It's just overthinking everything. What did you? Yeah. But you can't factor in. You can't.

You can't know what? Or does God want me here? wherever I'm at, God's there. You know, he's here, he's there. He can be here, he can be there. You can't go where he ain't there. And I think sometimes we try, you know, we're going to try to map this out. And the Bible never says, here's your, here's, Jesus when he left and say, here's what

want you to do, try to figure it out. Yeah. I want you to try to figure out what's going to happen. That would have been a great game because he said, I know, you don't. And he never said, try to figure it all out. But, man, I listen to people going, it's all about, I'm just looking for the sign and we talked about the signs and Christianity can be the same way. It's like, well, if I see a sign, well, man, we're all the way back to, you know, we're all the way back

to the New Testament on people looking if I see it, if I know it, if I knew for sure, and now we're losing the faith part. Like I'll say, you're losing the faith and the adventure and the courage and we're, you know. Here's the answer to this. I figured it out. No, no, here's the answer to it. Don't try to figure it out. Just trust. Just trust and try. God will redirect you. Trust God and try. That's all you got to do. That's it.

Trust to them. And look, then, hey, when it happens, and you go, well, that was so easy. Well, to that point, though, Dad, the New Testament,

it really kind of breaks down the argument because, like, you remember whenever Jesus they were going to a place and it said the Spirit of God would not let them in, so then they went to the next place.

And I think about Paul, and it's like, God actually was like, do not go, what was it? Like, don't go to Jerusalem. And it's like, that's such an interesting thing,

because he actually was not led to go to Jerusalem, but he went to Jerusalem and he endured hardship, but he also preached the gospel there. And so it's like, I feel like God, you're with him. He's with you. You know, he's with you everywhere you go. If you're not supposed to go, he will redirect you. If you get there, he will sustain you.

If you endure the hardship, he is there with you. And I think so many people, yes, you try to figure out, like, what is God thinking and looking for the signs and stop looking for the signs. Like, just walk with him. The Holy Spirit is God. guiding you. He is leading you.

The signs will not save you. Yes. Okay. Yeah. That's why I was going to add this. You know, you need to read about Job. Okay. God turned Job over to Satan to do what he was.

He could do anything to do except not kill him. You know, so hey, you need to learn at an early age, patience. Okay. That's why they go. And try. Trust and tries, huh? Trace and try. And one more.

And be patient. Be patient. What did you say? So, do you know, destiny is determined by decisions? Is what you said? That was such a boy-esque moment. That's so true. And I think when it comes down to it, the anxiety comes around making decisions, you know, especially

that's the, that's the bummer. Deciding who you're going to marry, deciding where you're going to live, deciding what job you're going to have. And in your 20s, you're filled with so many decisions that you get so much anxiety about making them. but you have to decide because it is determined by your decision. If you do not make that decision, you're stalling your future, you know? And I think to your point of like, you're going to want to look up one day and be like, man,

this is where I'm grateful for where I'm at. It's kind of like, you know, we were talking about wanting to have kids young. Okay, well, if we want to have kids young, got to get married young, you know. And then we were like, we want to have our kids close together. And then after we had honey and then I was like a year and a half out, I was like, okay, well, if I want them to be close together, then I don't need to have, you know, And so, you know, so much of it is up to the Lord's timing on those things, yes, especially getting pregnant. But there is a cause in your things, but it's like, okay, if this is where I want my life to go, I have to make a decision.

Or else it's not going to go there. And so if you are in a relationship with someone right now who is showing you all the signs that he is not the person you're going to marry, you have to make a decision to break up and get out of the relationship so that you can be prepared and ready to say yes when the right person comes. if you're in a relationship right now where you're like, we are 100% going to get married, but you're stalling for every reason. You got to make a decision. If it's a job, you just have to make a decision because that's what's leading you where you're going to go. And trust that the Holy Spirit is in you and guiding you into those places.

You're not going to mess it up if you are staying, if you're just staying in a conversation with God, you're not going to mess it up. And even whenever you go through those hard times, he is with you. You just got to learn to ride those waves alongside of the creator. And so honestly, I've learned so much from this conversation. I'm like, this was amazing. I honestly thought this podcast would go a lot of different ways. I thought it might just be so crazy with the three of y'all

because y'all are so funny and we can go all these different places. But there has been so much depth, so much wisdom, so much advice that I've personally taken. That was one of the things that surprised me with a bunch I'm with in my park, yeah. Okay, because people asked advice. Okay. and there's four of us in there, and we each give our take on it. And I was shocked. I didn't tell them, I said, I figured all three of y'all, all four of us was a bunch of dummies.

I said, but I was just shocked at the good advice we do give people. It's great. I mean, the fruit of your life does the talking. No, no, because I told Al once when him and Lisa were having trouble, I said, well, now you know how Jesus feels. And he said, what are you talking about? I said, well, if nobody's ever harmed you or done you wrong, you have no idea of what forgiveness is until you have to make the choice. Oh, he hurt me.

Do I forgive him or do I hold it against him the rest of his life? Editor's note, too, when Sauss says, no, no, that's a positive, not a negative. That's not no, I disagree. No, no is yes, I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that can be very confusing to a little. We'll put that in the show now. Here's the thing, okay, in my travel, you know, here's what I see in the world.

A lot of misery. Yeah. Number one, I do not see enough smiles. Number two, I don't see enough laughter. Number three, I don't see nobody joyful. Okay, and the reason they're not, they're not realistic. Mm-hmm. okay that's why I said okay the first the most important thing is you've got to have a relationship

with a creator don't even get on obesity obesity yeah hey what you saw that by kicking away from the table oh it's hilarious that's just to go let's go away from this table say that's a freebie boy I just said we're having so much good advice no but honestly so much good advice and just I have to saying, wrapping this up to young people, like to have people like y'all in my life, I'm just so grateful for her uncle, and a dad and grandparents who have set such a beautiful example of marriage and faithfulness of the Lord. Like, I am so grateful for that. And I know not everyone has in their life. And I'm so thankful that you guys came on my podcast to share that. Because I do think a lot of the advice we're taking is from, you know, influencers that we see and different things. And

that's not necessarily a bad thing. Influencers are great. Social media is a very. a great tool. But you also need to look at, you know, you might not have thought Uncle Sy was going to have a bunch of great marriage advice, but why not? He's been married for 52 years. You know, you need to surround yourself with people who actually the fruit of their life does the talking. You know, they have longevity to the advice and the wisdom that they're giving. They're able to look back and take from things, not just giving it to you where you're out. And I'm including myself in that. Here I am doing this podcast week after week, and I'm learning alongside of you from so many different age ranges, so many different people, and I'm so grateful

for that. You need the generations. You need to learn from those who are older than you who have actually walked the walk. And so I'm so thankful for y'all coming out of the podcast. This was incredible. Thank you guys for sending in these questions. We really do value all the questions that you ask and really do think about who can we bring on to really speak into this. And I think you guys know it. So thank y'all so much.