WHOA That's Good Podcast - Finding Out We're Pregnant with Baby Number 3! | Sadie Robertson Huff | Korie Robertson & 2Mama
Episode Date: February 17, 2025Sadie is joined by Korie and 2Mama to talk about the big surprise news from the Huff fam. Then Sadie poses some questions to her mom and grandmother for some wisdom and advice on their marriages: when... did they first fall in love with their husbands? Do they have any "ick" moments with their spouses? And how important - really - is God in a marriage? This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://hiyahealth.com/WHOA — Get 50% off your first order today! https://sadiepens.com — Stock up on Mr. Pen Bible journaling supplies today! https://gominno.com — Get your first month FREE when you use code WHOA at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Terms and conditions apply. What's up sisters and friends? Happy Monday everybody. I hope you're having a great start
to your week but it is about to get so good because I have two legends in the house today.
I have my mom and my grandmother. Some of everyone's favorite podcast episodes we record
are with these two ladies.
And we're actually gonna be talking about relationships.
Last time I did a full long lasting relationship podcast,
I had Uncle Si, Uncle Alan and Dad,
which surprisingly was so good.
I shouldn't say surprisingly,
but you never know what you're gonna get with them.
That is true.
This one won't surprise me if it's so good because y'all are well that's good people
Uncle Si is a questionable character but they had a lot of good advice I know
y'all will too but before we get into that I made a big announcement on social
media last week that we're pregnant! Yeah! We're so excited! Family's growing! So happy! I It's so exciting. I guess it would be funny to share how I told the two of you
because y'all were the best reactions.
I was shocked.
I will say I was shocked.
Yeah, I had no idea.
I'm surprised you were shocked.
I had no idea, which Honey had been saying that, you know.
Well, we haven't even shared that anywhere.
Yeah, I haven't even told that story, Oh, you haven't even told about that?
No, like Honey has been, so back in October,
Honey started telling everybody
that I had a baby in my tummy,
so much so that like we went into a coffee shop
that's like our local coffee shop,
everyone goes there and everyone that we knew was in there.
And she was like, my mommy has a baby boy in her tummy.
And I was like, what?
And everyone's like, you do? And I'm like, no, no, I'm not pregnant.
And it was so, because it was so specific.
It was like a boy and it was, and I was like.
Three year olds say things.
So like I totally just was like,
oh honey, she's just saying that.
Did not think anything about it.
She wasn't just like saying it.
She was like announcing it.
And then she told Lydia, some of my best friends,
she was like, my mommy has a baby boy in her tummy,
but don't tell her I told you.
Like it was so convincing.
So then all my friends thought I was pregnant,
but just weren't asking me,
but I wasn't pregnant at the time.
And then she told another friend's mom that I was pregnant.
Like she told so many people.
So all these people have been waiting on my announcement
when I actually wasn't pregnant.
And then later on actually
did find out I was pregnant which was such a shock but great shock but we were totally surprised
and so you know this season of our life has just been so crazy and so full with filming and all the
things that come with that and that wasn't necessarily our timeline or plan that we thought we were gonna have a baby. So I was just like totally overwhelmed
and thinking how am I gonna tell my family
that I'm pregnant right now?
I was mostly nervous to tell mom because,
I mean, I knew you'd be so excited,
but like, I mean, the show has been so much.
Know how busy we all are right now
and how busy you are right now.
Yeah.
And whenever I found out, like I knew I was gonna, Know how busy we all are right now and how busy you are right now. Yeah.
And whenever I found out, like I knew I was gonna like, you know, cause you can track
things I was like, whoa, I'm due two weeks before LO conference, which we'll talk about
later.
But like everything that's hitting me like, well, this is the craziest timing.
This is so insane.
Oh my gosh.
How am I going to tell everybody that I'm pregnant?
Cause they're going to be so surprised.
I'm so surprised.
So I waited a few days.
We would film like every single day I would see everybody.
And I didn't-
And you don't normally wait.
I don't wait a second.
Like when I found out I was pregnant with Haven,
I FaceTimed my mom to tell her
and I was literally five minutes down the road,
which I do regret.
I wish I would have driven over to your house,
but I couldn't even wait.
And so then Bella's been making fun of me
because it's like, I waited to tell you and mom,
and then she's like, five days.
I'm like, five days more than I thought I was gonna wait.
Like, I can't hold a secret like that.
Especially because we were together every single day,
and like, I was just trying to act like my whole life
was not about to totally change,
although it was totally changing.
I just remember whenever I told you,
I was super anxious,
because life is so crazy right now.
So tell you I'm pregnant,
and you about fell on the floor.
You're like, what?
I just about fell on the floor.
I was shocked. You did not see that coming.
I did not.
I'm so excited.
Obviously, I cannot believe you're about to be a mom of three,
and anytime a baby comes is the perfect time.
Yeah.
But yes, I had no idea.
And you helped me so much though,
because I was so nervous and felt so overwhelmed.
And you kind of just need like one person to say to you,
especially your mom, like, this is such great news.
Like, this is amazing.
You're going to be the best mom to three
and it's all going to be OK.
And it's OK that it's at conference time.
Like, it was like all the encouragement I needed.
And I knew those things, but I just needed someone else to say it to.
And then when I told Two Mama, it was so funny
because Two Mama was going with me
to this little appointment we have for Haven.
And I had literally just told somebody,
somebody had asked me, is Sadie gonna have a baby soon?
And I was like, no, they are waiting.
I think she wants the girls to be like four and five
before that had even happened.
So I had just literally like the day before told somebody.
So that was just all in my head
that I had done the right thing.
I said-
Well for the record, I had just told everybody that
like a week before Christian's parents were asking us
about like when we're gonna have a third.
I was like, oh, we wanna wait a few years.
Like, we're gonna wait till they're in school
and all this stuff.
And I need my body to recover and all this talk.
Meanwhile, God's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll see about that.
Good story.
And so anyways, when I told Two Mamas, I was like,
hey, like I need to film something for the show.
So can you record this while I'm driving? And Two Mamas, I recorded, we had to put this in the show. So can you record this while I'm driving?
And Two Mamas, I record, we had to put this in the podcast.
He's like recording and I'm like,
oh yeah, so Two Mama has no idea that I'm pregnant.
And you're like, what?
Hey, hey, we're going to Jackson.
Little girl's day, but making sure Haven's all good.
She's back there.
There's that little sweetie, hey Haven.
Sister. And two mommas going with me because the boys are busy and I figured this would be a really good time to tell a two mama that I'm pregnant. What? No you're not. Are you serious? What? I, no I cannot. Am I supposed to be really taping this?
And it's so funny, she's like.
Total shock.
Yeah, it's so funny.
She's like, are we really supposed to be filming this
for the show?
And I was like, no.
Yeah, I was like, what are we doing?
That was so perfect. I'm so confused.
Yeah, that was so exciting.
And I'm, you know, how we are here,
it's another one, we're excited, we love it.
There's, God's timing is the perfect timing.
And when this baby comes, it's gonna be the perfect time.
That's right.
So how many great grandkids does this make?
Well, this will make, we've got one coming in June,
and then this one, and so that will be 12.
Whoa.
So, so far, like my grandkids,
I've had seven boys and seven girls.
I'm one of six, three boys, three girls.
I have, right now, five great-grands
and five boys and girls.
Wow.
And then the one coming in June is a boy.
Oh man, so that would mean this would be a girl.
The pressure is on.
Uh-oh. Ah! Okay, that would mean this would be a girl. The pressure is on. Uh oh.
Ah!
Okay, that is crazy.
We're gonna have we'll see.
We're gonna be so excited.
Yeah, we'll see.
But that is interesting.
It's interesting.
Yeah, we do kind of even it all out.
We always even.
Yeah, that's how, that's crazy.
Okay, wow, three girls, but who knows, we'll see.
We did have three girls in one year.
But we had the boys.
Hallen, Haven, and Ella.
Ella.
No, Hallen, Haven.
No, sorry, you're saying it wrong.
I'm sorry.
Hallen, Honey, and Ella.
Yes, Hallen, Honey, and Ella were all in one year.
Right.
So maybe this will be the boy year.
We'll see.
Well, this is so crazy, but we're so excited.
Okay, so this episode is about relationships
and you guys both have some long lasting marriages.
Tumama, how long have you and Tupapa been married?
We've been married 53 years.
Oh!
I know.
Tupapa would say.
That's a Tupapa move, but yes.
53 years.
It's crazy to think about.
It really is.
Mom, what about y'all?
We are 33 years.
Wow.
I haven't thought about that we're exactly 20 years.
That's how I can always remember mine if I ask you yours.
Because I'm so bad about it.
Mom is really bad at remembering.
She's bad at it.
I'm also bad about my age.
I'm like, wait, am I 51 or 50?
I don't know.
33 years.
Which is a 20 year difference too.
Yes.
I know that too.
That's awesome.
Okay, so I have some fun questions for y'all.
Okay, what is the thing that initially made you
fall in love with your spouse?
You gotta think back 53 years.
I know, I have to think back a long time,
but it's really not that hard
because I'd started going to this Christian camp.
Some of y'all are familiar with that, Camp Chioka,
because we talk about it a lot.
So I'd started going to that camp,
and I spotted this cute young man and his girlfriend.
His girlfriend.
And his girlfriend.
And his girlfriend.
What a twist.
My very first year.
And I was like, okay, well,
I guess I really don't ever have a chance with him
because he's two years older,
he's got a cute girlfriend and a good car.
So that's probably it.
So that was it.
And back in those days, we didn't have any way to communicate.
I mean, there was no Instagram.
There was no Insta anything.
So I did not go to camp the second year, but then the third year of camp, I went back.
The first year, he didn't notice me at all.
Not at all. Not at all. Short hair, braces, glasses,
about as big as this microphone stand.
And so he didn't notice me at all.
So when I came back,
the third year, a little bit older,
had contacts, the braces were off.
But he had-
Hair had grown out a little bit.
Hair had grown out,
but he had a girlfriend still.
The same girlfriend? And I had a boyfriend. Oh wow but he had a girlfriend still. The same girlfriend?
And I had a boyfriend.
Oh, wow.
He had a different girlfriend,
which seemed to be the story of his dating life.
So, but we became, he noticed me at least,
we became friends that year.
So he became part of my letter writing crew.
That's what you did in those days, you wrote letters.
So the next December the 27th, I got,
I went to a camp reunion.
He was not dating anybody.
I wasn't dating anybody.
And so-
Perfect timing.
Yep.
The stars aligned that from the beginning,
what I loved about him so much,
he didn't live in the town I lived in.
I had to go two hours to camp,
but I knew that he was just a godly young man
and he came from a good godly family.
That was important to me.
I dated a lot in high school.
I know.
I dated a lot.
I'd be like, I would have a different date
each night of the weekend.
I did, I did.
But I was like testing the waters.
It was a different time, you could do that.
Which I do think we should bring back some of that.
I wish you could bring that back.
We could just go to the movie with somebody and that's it.
Get to know them.
Just get to know them.
Right, exactly.
So, but I knew from the ones that I'd been dating,
they were all great guys,
but what Johnny had was a love for God, a great family.
He was super funny.
Now, sometimes the things that you think are really funny
when you're 18 are not that funny when you're 70,
but he was super funny and just a great guy.
So I just love being with him.
That's so sweet.
I love that.
Oh, I love that.
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Mom, what made you fall in love with dad?
Well, we met at the same summer camp,
as a lot of people know, they know our story,
but fourth grade, I saw him across the way,
and I remember thinking he was really cute,
even that young, he had these great dimples.
He was, he didn't have a beard yet.
Great dimples and smile.
Yeah, it's actually, you can see it.
It's pretty much your face in a boy form.
He was so cute.
And he was funny even then, even as like a fourth grader.
He was funny.
And then a few years later, he actually came,
started coming to our youth group.
They went to like the little country church
and we went to the city church, which, you know, in Westmoreland, Louisiana. But anyway, he started coming to our youth group. They went to like the little country church and we went to the city church, which you know, in Westmoreland, Louisiana. But anyway, he started coming to our
church and kind of joined the youth group. And he was so cute and so fun and funny and just on fire
for the Lord. I mean, when he and Jace joined our youth group, it just became dynamic. People started
coming and it was exciting and fun because they were always sharing the gospel with people and
inviting people.
So he had this like charisma that drew people to him.
And it was at our house.
Right, the youth group was at our house every Sunday night.
So he was there with, I mean, literally a hundred kids.
Wow, because you were the youth leader.
I was one of the youth leader helpers,
volunteers at that time.
And so every Sunday night they were at our house
and we just thought it was the funniest, cutest thing
and loved the Lord.
Yeah.
You didn't really, y'all didn't date from fourth grade on.
No, no, no.
So we kind of liked each other off and on
through high school, different,
or middle school even in high school,
but it just never, the stars did not align, yes. He dated all my friends and we went to different schools. Not only did he date all your friends he told you as his
youth leader he was gonna marry all your friends. All my friends yes exactly. Everybody he dated he would say I'm gonna marry that one.
Willie's like what he goes he goes all in on anything a sport a game a relationship. That's true, whatever it is.
I just point out, like, if you think out there
that you've dug too deep of a hole,
you can't dig too deep of a hole
as to telling your future mother-in-law
that you're gonna marry every single one
of your future twice friends.
Exactly, yeah, that's pretty it.
You had dug a pretty deep hole.
He had, yes, he had.
So he's very passionate. He had those dimples, hole to climb out of. So he's very passionate.
He had those dimples.
He was so cute.
He was so cute.
He'd win you back over, yes.
But there was a point where he asked me out,
and I said no, because he had dated one of my friends,
and I didn't think he treated her very well.
And so I was mad at him.
And he sent someone to ask me.
He didn't ask me directly.
He sent someone to ask me if I would go on a date.
And I just said no.
And he says he remembers this guy, a friend of ours,
and it was Jimmy.
Jimmy goes back to him and he said, what'd you say?
And Jimmy says, she said no.
And he was like, just like, no?
He just said no?
Because, well, he was, he, you know.
The girls didn't tell him no.
Exactly.
So I think that left a mark.
So then I actually was the one who called him
when we started dating because I had rejected him,
you know, a couple of years before.
And then we had both dated other people
and we saw each other at the mall.
This no dates us, this is so funny.
We saw each other at the mall and looked across the way
and I had heard that he had broken up with his girlfriend
and I had just broken up with my,
I'm looking at I had broken up with his girlfriend and I had just broken up with my boyfriend and I had just broken up too.
So we kind of see each other across the mall and we're like, hmmm, no it's just we both
remember that meeting.
And so I called him because I had rejected him a few years before so I knew I had to
make the first move.
And he called me back and yeah, the rest is history.
So sweet.
So what was it that made you start to fall in love with him
when y'all started dating?
When we actually started dating,
I think, you know, we were friends.
That was a really special part.
We were very young, we were 18 and 19,
but we had known each other since fourth grade.
So we were friends, we loved each other's company.
We loved being together.
We laughed a lot.
And I think I knew that life with him
would never be boring.
And I thought it would be a fun adventure.
Yes.
And it would be a fun adventure.
And yeah, he was, like I said,
he was on fire for the Lord.
I knew that.
I think our families,
when you look at them from the outside, we're so different, very like looked very different from the Lord, I knew that. I think our families, when you look at them from the outside,
were so different, very, like looked very different
from the outside, but the core values were the same,
of faith, family, love for family,
love to be around each other, in each other's families,
and generosity, hospitality, all of those like core things
that are really important, I knew were the same.
I think it's funny how our stories are similar in that,
you know, she kept seeing Willie,
because we called him Jess at the time,
but it wasn't the right time, wasn't the right time.
Same for me, with two Papa, you know,
I was like, well, he's got a girlfriend,
he's got a girlfriend,
but yet we married them at 18.
So the Lord was like,
you're not going to meet them any sooner than this.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
That would have been too soon.
I think that's such an interesting point of y'all's story
because I think that that's the truth
for most people's story.
Like it has to be the right timing.
I mean, Christian and I,
like Bella met Christian two years before I met Christian,
but it would not have been the right time
for me to meet Christian.
And like when we look back at our timeline,
we were in the same place at the same time
a couple of different times and never met,
but it wouldn't have been the right time.
But I think, and I didn't even know that.
I didn't know we were in the same place.
I didn't know of him, so I didn't have the urge
to expedite the process or rush the process.
You weren't stalking him like I was.
I wasn't stalking him, but also,
but you were stalking, but not really.
Stalking is different than stalking women.
Right, it's different. Stalking's like, oh, he's cute, he's a girl,
he's a nice guy.
Stalking then was looking around a tree at kids.
Stalking now is a way to nothing.
That is such a good point.
Ain't nobody looking around a tree, okay?
We're looking at every post you ever made
from the past four years and who tagged you in it.
And I think that that's hard.
And when I say I called him, it's like the home phone
where his roommate took my number down on a piece of paper
to give him to call me back.
That's like such a different time.
But I think that's really cool because you didn't have
the resources to control it or manipulate it or rush it.
And I think that if we didn't have the resources
to do that, like texting and Instagram messaging
and Snapchatting, like we might just be a little bit more
patient with God's timing in our life.
And so obviously you're not gonna take away Instagram
and Snapchat and texting, but like, let it be a lesson
to you that if it's God's timing, like rest in that
and wait for that.
Because I think people do a lot of damage
in trying to manipulate the timing.
Trying to speed up the process too.
Cause you can speed up that process so much.
I mean, there's something so different about
getting a letter from somebody that you think you love
and being able to process that letter
and write them back with the thoughtfulness
of quick Instagram.
Like intentionality.
So it's, yeah, it's a whole different world.
Yeah, so maybe we can bring back some of that.
Okay, question, do you, I wrote this down,
like are the things you love about your spouse now
still the same as what you originally felt a little bit?
Or, and I know it's changed, it's been 53 years.
Do you still see those same things in them now
and what has grown?
What about your love for them has grown in specific ways?
Well, I think you still,
I hope that you still see the same things
that drew you to whoever you're married to.
I certainly do it too, probably,
because he's still crazy and silly and funny
and will literally do anything.
And I am so the opposite of that.
Like I don't do silly, crazy things
and embarrass myself in front of everybody.
And he will literally embarrass himself
in front of an entire movie theater.
Oh my gosh.
So all of those things are still there,
but then you gain so much more
because then you see them as dads and grandfathers
and I'll cry if I say too much,
but then you begin to see who they really are on the inside,
not that outside.
Like he was super cute.
I know y'all might not believe that.
He's so cute.
He's so cute.
He was super cute and super funny.
But beyond that, he then was a good worker
and took care of us and loved the kids
and all those things.
So your list, you have a list still
of good things and bad things about anybody in your life.
And you have to be careful not to let the bad list grow
longer than the other one
because you can nitpick little things.
But it's all those other things that, you know.
Yeah, that's really good to watch for.
I love that.
That's so good.
Yeah, I would say yes.
I mean, he's still funny.
Life's never boring with him.
He's still really passionate.
He goes all in with what he does.
He loves the Lord and loves to share the gospel with people.
So all those things.
Another thing I was thinking of when you said that,
like this image came to mind of him
making me an omelet before school.
This is my senior year when we started dating.
And he would, he made like really, he cooked for,
he cooked even then.
And so he would make an omelet for me
and I would go over there before school, which I didn't get up early for anybody or anything. Mom can attest.
So the fact that I would wake up early to go over there to eat his omelets,
you know, and he still, you know,
makes me omelets or I'll be sitting in the morning reading,
doing my Bible reading, writing in my journal. And he's like,
do you want an omelet or, you know,
do you want to make your breakfast sandwich or if he doesn't offer and he's like, do you want an omelet or, you know, do you want to make your breakfast sandwich?
Or if he doesn't offer, I'm like,
you thinking about making a breakfast sandwich?
He's like, sure.
And every time he's like, yeah, I'll do it.
He's always ready to make me a sandwich or an omelet
or feed me in some way, take care of me in some way.
So he's still, all those things are still the same.
And then like mom said, things grow,
things you don't know or you don't see.
And also things, there's a lot of ways that he's changed
and grown in really good ways, like refined.
It's just like I've grown and changed
and there's things about me that have refined
that God has refined in me.
I think that, you know, sometimes we talk about
people don't change and there's an aspect of who you are as your personality
and those traits, but there are things that God
really does change in your life.
And those are things that are like,
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And those are the things that can change and grow.
And really, it's amazing how you get to see that.
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Yeah.
But then it's so cool, because of course they've changed
and grown just as, like you said, y'all have and we all do.
And I think that's a really good point.
Like people say people don't change,
but the whole gospel is centered around like you changing,
you know, like denying yourself and picking up your cross
and like allowing Jesus to change your life
and the Holy Spirit and he will.
And so that's so cool.
This is kind of like a trendy thing right now
where people say like, what's your ick?
Like what's your ick about your spouse?
And it's like, which T-Mama has a lot of icks.
Definitely a trendy thing.
It's like, what is something that your spouse does
that's immediately just an ick?
Like Bella would say her ick about dad
is his Tim Tebow t-shirt.
No offense Tim Tebow, but it is bad.
It's not a good look on him.
It's like turquoise, tight and not good.
It's from a Tim Tebow golf tournament
and Jockey sponsored it.
And so it's turquoise t-shirt
and it says, show them what's underneath.
And it's like a logo for Jockey underwear.
And it's so bad. He wears it, he slept in it lastockey underwear. And it's so bad.
He wears it, he slept in it last night.
He had it on this morning.
He wears it all the time.
I actually washed it one time and it got like wadded up
and like stretched and I was like, oh, sorry.
I think I messed it up.
And he was like, oh no, I think it's still fine.
And he saved it.
And it's so weird.
Yeah, that would be an ick.
What's something that is just funny that you're like,
oh yeah, that's an ick?
That is, man, that is a hard one.
I can go because Bella and we've had this conversation.
So I know, cause at first I was like, what would that be?
I don't know, what is it?
And then I was like, that's travel habits.
Oh yeah.
And report travel habits.
That's an ick for sure.
He carries like so many, like one,
his backpack weighs a ton because he never cleans it out.
It's just ridiculous.
It's like so much stuff.
It's just like spilling out of it.
Then he carries like three different cups.
I was gonna say six cups.
Plus a coffee.
Like so much cups.
Like three different like travel cups.
That's hilarious.
Then a coffee and then like tea under his arm. So it's just like he's walking
through the airport. It's just so jumbled and disheveled. Not to mention he always has his
pants like, like a Delta blanket as like a scarf. Sometimes it's just one leg. Yeah, it's that. One leg. With his show and what's on his t-shirt and he's stretching in public.
Yes, that is his public.
Yes, and I'm like, you know, like there are nicer backpacks
and like there are things.
I actually bought him for Christmas a little cup holder
thing that you could put on your rolling cart
to maybe it'll get better.
But anyway, and he leaves things everywhere.
He just left yesterday. he was flying to Nashville
and was like, Will sent me a video of him
running back to the car because he left his clothes
in the car.
He left his whole bag.
He left his bag.
Christian was like, how do you do that?
How do you leave your bag?
He checked in, got on the flight
and realized he left his whole bag.
He had to run out of security and get back in.
It's like, some things don't change.
That is exactly how he was.
Travel aid.
That's a good one.
Tia, why did you take it one?
Okay, I mean, this is like hard for me
because it's been a lot of years,
but I guess I'm just gonna say,
like he has no fashion sense and doesn't care at all that he doesn't have any at all.
Now when we were dating, he was like the coolest guy in town
with the leather jacket, with the fringes,
and like he wore that hippie ears.
But after that, it's like.
He never found himself after that.
He never found himself after that.
And so he just really doesn't care at all
and I'll try to like help him
and I've given up pretty much.
It is funny because you're so fashionable
and so like you'll look like incredible
and he comes in his Hawaiian shirt, cargo, whatever,
shorts, his little like shoes.
And those socks and just some kind of shoes
that he slips on with those horrible toes.
I mean, it's like, yes, and I think those are the things that you have to just like,
you just have to love them in spite of themselves because he has a Hawaiian shirt with mom's face.
Oh, yes. He loves and embarrasses mom every time he wears it.
And I never know when he's going to wear it because I'm not with him.
Then he comes to some event with this shirt with my time he wears it. I never know when he's gonna wear it, because I'm not with him,
and he comes to some event with this shirt
with my face all over it, and I'm like, what?
So funny.
Okay, this is an interesting question.
Does stuff about your spouse bother you more now
or less now over the years?
Because I feel like, for me, even just five years in,
I don't get as annoyed about things as I did at the beginning. even just five years in, I don't get like as annoyed about things
as I did at the beginning.
Like it just doesn't bother me.
But I mean, I'm five years compared to 50 years.
What does that look like?
I think that's the same.
I mean, I think things change.
You're like, okay, that doesn't bother me anymore,
but I've got something new.
There's always a new thing.
There'll be something else.
But you know, I do think as the years go on,
you learn to pick and choose what things are
valuable enough to your relationship that you
One they bother you and two you say something about it that they can't they're not gonna change
It's just gonna be an annoying thing. So you finally just say that's not worth it. Yeah
I would say Willie style like he has his own style and I just have to not care. But he's always had a good style.
He's had a two pop style.
Well sometimes. He goes through phases.
He has a good style when he has to go somewhere publicly.
That's true. Yes he does.
He does not have a good day to day style.
Yeah.
And you just don't know. He can just choose whatever.
He went through this phase where he got some, got some, like, old clothes from some man
who, like, passed away.
His wife gave him all his old clothes,
and he just loved them, like, polyester pants
and shirts and everything.
And I'm just like, just let him be.
You know, that's just his thing.
He wants to do it.
It's just funny and fun, and I don't care.
So, yeah, style.
And also, like, Willie does not like to be controlled.
So if I tried to pick his outfit,
or like pick, then he would purposely wear the opposite
because he would feel controlled by me.
So that is like, yeah, something you just kind of
have to give up.
Another thing he does do that used to drive me crazy
and now I'm just like, you know,
I just shut, it doesn't take me time.
He leaves every cabinet door open.
I knew you were gonna say that.
Like when he cooks, which he does all the time,
which is amazing, every cabinet door is open.
His bathroom, we have these like, you know,
like a mirror that all the things were,
how do we call it, like a medicine cabinet mirror.
He just leaves it up, you know,
he just does not ever close a cabinet
or a door.
But it's one of those things that I'm like, okay, it takes me, you know, just a few seconds
to just come behind him and close them.
So used to I would kind of like, be like, hey, you know, try to get him to close the
cabinet.
No, I just don't find any much in it.
I feel like that's a good one because I do remember that annoyed you for so long and
then you're like, okay, I'll just do it.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you have to just, some things you just have to be like,
okay, that's not gonna happen.
I'll just do it.
It's okay.
Yeah, that's good.
So y'all mentioned how there will be like seasons of things
like, okay, this bothered me for a while, then it doesn't.
Or this outfit was terrible.
Then he got off that kick.
Like there's just like waves.
I found a picture the other day
and Johnny had a shirt on that he was wearing recently.
And I said, look, this is 23 picture the other day and Johnny had a shirt on that he was wearing recently.
And I said, look, this is 23 years ago.
You have on the same shirt.
Might be the time.
That's the time.
It is time.
Some things make it longer than others.
Some things are little waves,
some things are tidal waves.
But like, okay, talking about just going through
hard times of life, you know how people always say,
and it's biblical, like don't let the sun go down when you're angry. And I feel like whenever you first get married, it's very
literal. You're like, I cannot go to bed. Anyway, we had to resolve everything, which
is a really good thing. But then over time, there are certain things or problems or things
you're walking through in your marriage. It can't be resolved in a day. It's going to
take time. Can you speak to just times in your life
where like a season lasted a year, years?
Like, how do you walk through that
and like still being in love with your spouse,
like pursuing your spouse,
but like going through a time that's just really hard
and knowing time is what it's gonna take
until you get to a better place.
Like, what does that look like?
I think you pretty much kind of said it with all that
because there are times you marry,
especially for somebody who's married 53 years,
that there were, like, if you say,
don't go down, don't go to bed,
you would have been up for days, you know,
never gone to sleep because you can't solve some things
that quickly, but you can still go to bed
with a resolution that we love each
other, nobody's going anywhere, we've got these kids we're raising, tomorrow we'll figure
that out. You can always do that. I think where people get in trouble is when they don't
say that. They say, I don't know if we can work this out. Divorce is on the table. Yeah.
I'll see you tomorrow.
So yes, there's gonna be some seasons
that there's some issue that y'all are just not
figuring out.
And it's not gonna happen overnight,
but you can still say, but we will figure it out.
We are resolved to figure it out.
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I think that's it. I think the word hope to me is like so important in any relationship.
It's like there's hope that things will get better and things will and whether God's working
on you or whether we're going to him or working on y'all together that just that hope that
like, okay, things are going to get better at some point whenever in a marriage or a
relationship or anything, when you lose hope, when you're like,
this is never going to change. And I just think that is, I
always tell this story, I've told it on your thing before
about being in a therapist office and saying, I kind of said
it offhandedly, I'm like, oh, it feels hopeless. And she just
stopped me. She was like, no, like you serve a god of hope.
Nothing is hopeless. And so I do think that like some people can get,
when you get trapped in that where you're just like,
oh, this is it, this is all this marriage is ever gonna be,
he's never gonna change, I'm never gonna,
like we're never gonna be in love again,
or we're never gonna feel this way again,
that is, that's the beginning of the end, you know?
So if you can just say like, nope,
like this is not how it's meant to be.
Like my marriage, God wants me to be in a great marriage
and I can be in a great marriage with this person.
Like it's not that this is perfect right now.
It's not that, but it's that like,
yes, God wants us to have a great marriage
and yes, that can happen to have a great marriage.
And yes, that can happen.
It doesn't look like it right now.
It doesn't feel like it right now.
I don't know how, I don't have any idea how this is gonna be,
but I have hope that it can be
because I believe in the promises of God.
I've made a commitment to this person
and all the reasons why I need to stay in this are there.
And then, and then I just miraculously works it out.
I mean, literally it really, it is that way.
I mean, yes, there's hard things.
There's steps you have to take.
Go to get counseling, talk, you know, do the hard thing,
do all the things that you need to do.
Talk about, negotiate with your spouse.
Like work on those things, work on yourself.
There's work to do, like of your own work,
but also I just know in my life I've looked up
and been like, wait a second,
that actually just got resolved, you know?
And you're like, it's not like it used to be.
This has gotten better.
Somehow this doesn't really seem like a big deal anymore.
Or I was like, wow, he's actually changed that.
Or I actually changed that about myself.
And it does happen, but you have to give it time
and you can't give up, and you can't give up hope.
That's really good.
I love what both of y'all said.
And I think it's really cool thinking about the heart
posture you take, not losing hope, going to bed,
and yeah, you might have problems.
Yes, you might have things you need to resolve,
things that are going to take time.
But going to bed with respect for your partner,
going to bed with love.
Because I love how that verse is, don't go to bed angry
at the believer.
And it's like, that's a heart posture you're taking.
So it's like, yeah, you might be angry about circumstances.
You might be mad about what's happened.
You might know that you need,
but like making your heart posture,
I'm gonna choose hope.
I'm gonna choose to say that we're gonna work this out.
And it's really cool to hear you say like,
man, there are some times where it's like,
you're surprised you made it through it.
You're like, whoa, okay, like, God, you're doing it.
Like, we're walking through it because that just shows
that like, yeah, times can get really hard.
I was just thinking about that.
You talked about that literal, don't let the sun go down.
Like, if you think about that figuratively of like,
the sun going down on your anger is like this,
like I put it here and like, I'm just angry.
You know, like if you don't take it as literally,
like there's another way you can look at it.
It's like God's saying like, hey, don't just stay angry.
You know, like know that there's gonna be a new day
and a new way to look at things.
It's really good, yeah.
One thing you said to mama that I've heard you
and your sister, Joanne, they'll say like all of our life
is that like divorce is not an option.
Like don't put divorce on the table.
So that like, it's interesting just because the friends,
I have friends who are so young
and we're all walking through marriage
and helping each other out.
And that hasn't really been a thing for us.
But then outside of our friend group, just people our same age, I've just heard that
thrown out a lot.
And I'm like, man, like that's so sad.
You know, like it's so sad that these words are already being thrown out.
And I've just been like, man, that would be so hard because we've gone through hard times,
but that hasn't been like a word,
that hasn't been an op, that hasn't been on the table.
And I think like you guys have always told us like,
don't put it on the table, you know?
What is it like, have there been times
where y'all have felt like divorce would have been a lot easier,
felt a lot easier, but we stuck through it?
Like, what does it look like to not let divorce be an option,
but go through really hard times
where it feels like divorce is the option,
is what I'm saying.
I don't know if I would say there were times
that I thought divorce would have been easier,
but there were definitely times when my kids were little
and my husband had, two papa had a very demanding job,
like he, there was no eight hours,
it was 12, 13 hours and I had three little kids.
There were plenty of times that in my brain I'm like,
wait, I'm a single mom, but I'm married.
So those kind of things can go through your brain,
and what you have to do is quit saying that.
It's what we say to ourselves, because I could do that.
At night I could be like at seven o'clock at night,
I'm getting everybody a bath,
I've taken everybody to gymnastics,
I've done all the things,
we've done school, we've done homework,
and then Johnny walks in,
and it would have been,
and probably on some days, I was angry about that.
Oh, you've got to be at an office all day,
and had grownups around you,
and had adult conversation,
but I watched a lot of my friends do this,
and you go down that path too many days,
then you're gonna put divorce on the table,
because divorce seems easier than what you're doing now.
I've never really seen a divorce that's been easier than that.
It's always hard.
Life is hard at its best.
It's just hard.
And so you're trading one problem
for lots of other problems, perhaps.
But if you, I love how Corey was saying it,
you've got God at the center of your marriage
and you just keep clinging to that
and every day will get better or different
or some other problem will take over from,
you know, we have these little issues, then Johnny had colon cancer.
Well, everything else kind of took a backseat because now we're dealing with stage four
colon cancer.
So when things like that hit you in the face, then like, okay, that little annoying thing
that he does about telling me every little thing that he reads in the newspaper,
you know, which is annoying.
And still does that.
And still does that and Googles everything.
Okay, maybe that's not so bad.
Yeah.
Because God's seeing us through colon cancer.
Yeah.
So sometimes I think it's just we need to have a talk with ourself and say, stop this.
Yeah.
You know, this is life, this is reality.
Everybody's got problems. Nobody's marriage is any better.
I mean, there may be better connections, I don't know.
But everybody's dealing with the same kind of thing.
So tell yourself, I gotta snap out of it.
That's really good.
That's kind of an old term from the 50s
when your dad would walk by and you're kind of pouting,
he'd say, snap out of it.
And you'd go, okay. People might need to hear that. We need to kind of pouting, he'd say, snap out of it. And you'd go, okay.
People might hear that.
We need to say that today.
We need to revive the snap out of it.
So it's really good.
Well, I think that's been really helpful,
like having a friend group.
Like I mentioned, like I have a friend group,
but we talk openly.
But one of the things I really love about our friend group
is everyone's so respectful of their spouse.
Like you share things that you want to grow in
more personally or maybe some things you need prayer for,
but it's like respecting your marriage too.
And I feel like that's what I mean when I said
I've heard people outside of that have conversations
and I'm like, man, like you're on a spiral.
Like if you're talking like that, you are.
Divorce is on the table.
I love how you said you spend a few more days like that
and you get to those places.
So snap out of it.
It's really good advice.
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I think that's something that you did a good job of teaching us as we were growing up,
and I hope that I taught y'all too,
is you are in control of your thoughts,
and the loops that your brain gets is,
you can stop those loops,
and you can change your patterns of thought,
and whenever you get in that,
if you allow yourself to get in that with your spouse,
of a loop of all the things wrong and all the things, then you know, you can go down a road and spiral
and like you said, get on the crazy train or whatever.
But one of the things that I always find is helpful is remembering your story, you know,
and I think it's biblical.
You see like the Israelites constantly like forgetting what God brought them through,
forgetting the miracles, forgetting all the things.
And that's something that we can do really easily.
But remembering why you fell in love,
telling that story to your kids,
remembering the things that God has brought you through
already in your marriage,
remembering those special moments of when you had your babies,
and talking about those good things
and those good memories can get you out of that spiral of, oh, he's
not doing this or this or that or that, you know?
And just look at it as a long haul.
You know, another thing, Mom, I remember very specifically you telling me about some of
your friends who were couple friends who you said talked about divorce at one point, and
then they made it through.
And then they're like the happiest married
empty nesters there are, you know, it's like,
but they just had to make it through that hard time.
And there was a time when they were like,
as soon as these kids get out of the house,
we're getting divorced
because they didn't think they were gonna make it.
And then after the kids got out of the house,
they're like, oh, some of our problems got solved
miraculously and now we're still together.
And I remember you telling me that and thinking like,
oh, I gotta look at this as the long haul.
What do I want in the future?
Do I want Willie and I to be sitting together,
playing with our grandbabies?
Do I want us to be able to have a life together forever?
And so is it worth whatever this momentary thing
that I'm going through so that I can have what I want in the long, you know? And so is it worth whatever this momentary thing that I'm going through so that I can have what I want
in the long, long haul?
And absolutely, every time.
That's really good, I love that.
I think if you're out there listening to us talk today
and you have, you've been divorced
and you're dealing with this,
I think there's ways that you can make that work too
by putting your kids first and being strong,
strong leaders in your family and be kind
to each other and speak kindness over each other and all those kind of things.
So it can be done.
So we're not saying this is the only way to raise great kids.
But certainly, this is the way God intends it to be.
If we step outside of that, God's still there for us and He's still gonna help us make it through.
That's really good.
I saw someone recently and it was their anniversary
and they had hit a lot of years.
It was close to y'all.
Won't say that amount because I don't wanna narrow it
to their story, but whenever I said,
"'Happy anniversary, thank you so much.'
I said, "'How do you do I said, how do you do it?
How do you make it that many years?
And they said, just don't get divorced every day,
just make that decision.
And I was like, it was kind of sad
because I was like, that's a sad way to look at marriage.
Like every day just trying to get divorced.
It's like, do you love each other?
Like, is there anything more positive you want to share?
Like, okay.
And you always just kind of negative
and they were probably just joking,
but there's no like positive, like,
I love them and we raised this amazing family
and all this stuff.
So I want to ask y'all 53 years in, 33 years in,
like is it possible to continue to fall in love
and like it still be sweet?
Like you hold hands, not that it's like movie,
but it's like, you're actually in love.
Like you enjoy your spouse.
Oh, I definitely think that's,
I think that's entirely possible.
And even more so after the kids are gone.
Yeah.
Probably.
If you can get through that.
And I know those of you who have little kids,
it just seems
like eternity every day is like an eternity, but it does go by so fast.
And you have to think about it.
I was telling John Lucas the other day, you have to think how many years you have after
that.
It's a long time.
It's crazy.
If you get to live a long time.
Yeah.
I mean, Cory got married when I was 38.
That was really young.
And so my last one got married when I was 38. I was really young. Yeah. And so my last one got married when I was 42.
So from 42 on, my kids are already married.
That's crazy.
And that's really young.
So you're going to have a long time.
And that's why we say cherish the times when they're little.
Have your date nights.
Stay interested in the person.
Get to know them.
It's so hard to not let everything be a focus on the kids,
but you cannot let the kids be your total focus on your life.
You just cannot.
Now, when they're toddlers, you have to,
because if you're not watching them, they'll die.
But beyond that, beyond that,
you have to take care of your relationship,
because they are gonna grow up and leave you.
As much as you don't want them to.
When they get older, you're gonna like,
don't leave me, but they do.
And then you have all those years left.
So yes, you've got more time to fall more in love
with that person.
Yeah, so good.
Absolutely, and there's things that you do
that you didn't do before.
Recently, dad and I have been more on getting to bed
and watching a movie or watching a show together.
And I mean, for a lot of years, we haven't done that.
He liked his shows and I'd read or I'd get in bed
and watch my show or whatever.
And now we're starting to find shows together
and it's like, we get excited.
It's like, oh wait, is it 8.30?
Should we go?
Because we're old.
We're like old people all of a sudden.
We never did that before.
I mean, we used to always be up till midnight.
We were, or we would do other things or whatever.
And now, literally, we're like, okay, is it time?
Let's go watch our show together.
And so there's always new things you're gonna find.
I mean, that's something really little,
but you'll find that you do together
that you're like, oh, that's something, like a long time ago that I might have wished we had done together, because's something really little, but you'll find that you do together that you're like, oh, that's something like a long time ago
that I might have wished we had done together
because I'd be like, oh, he won't come to bed
when I want to go to bed or whatever.
But I was like, whatever, that's how we did it.
And then all of a sudden, like we're doing that.
And like, oh, that's so nice.
We do that too now, which we never did
because Tupama never left his desk.
He worked all the time.
And now we find something on Netflix.
We can't wait to go in and watch.
We share that.
Sometimes y'all are watching it,
we'll all share what we're watching.
And so, yeah, something,
there's gonna be new things that come up.
They change, you change.
It really is so interesting,
because like the other day,
Christian and I were doing a like relationship Q&A,
and someone said like, what does a date night look like for y'all? And other day, Christian and I were doing a relationship Q&A. And someone said,
what does a date night look like for y'all?
And Alissa and Christian said, it's been a minute.
And we were laughing because we were like, oh, gosh,
it has been a long time.
But then we were like, but that's just where we're at.
We have a three-year-old and a one-year-old,
and we're filming.
And our nights are really important to be with the kids,
because I'm working.
And then the weekends, we don't want to do anything because
we're with the kids like so we haven't done that often but I was like but we go
to lunch together when we can during the day and that's been like really sweet
for us but then I was in the nature of your work and filming here with him
life is right now but I'm with him all the time which has been really sweet
and so we were like talking about that and then I was thinking about how like
you and Tupac
are going on so many dates.
And Sheree and Chandler right now, they are empty nesters.
They're going on these dates.
And you and dad spend so much time together.
But y'all are filming, and y'all are in a crazy time.
And dad cooks for you a lot, and y'all
have your at-home dates, which is really sweet.
But everybody's life just looks different, and seasons look different. And so it's cool that now y a lot, and y'all have your at-home dates, which is really sweet. But it's like, everybody's life just looks different,
and seasons look different.
And so it's cool that now y'all show is y'all's thing.
And for me and Christian, we try to go to lunches.
You do have to kinda just adapt with the times
and where you're at, and not compare it to another season
or another person, because it's just different.
But this has been such a fun conversation.
I honestly feel like everybody's going
to wish we had another hour.
And I kind of do too, because it's just been so fun
to hear just the beauty of y'all's stories
and all the good advice, but also
the honesty about the hard stuff.
The last thing I want to ask y'all though,
is a lot of people ask me in DMs or question boxes,
how important is it that you marry a godly man?
How important is it?
Do we really, what does it really look like
if we're unequally yod, all those different things?
And both of y'all said, when you met,
to Papa, when you met Dad,
one of the things you fell in love with
was that they loved the Lord.
And when you got to the hard times of your life,
the thing that you fell back to
was the sinner of God in your relationship.
How important is it for people listening
who are believers or look at this lifestyle and go,
man, I kind of want that.
How important has faith been
in the role of y'all's relationships?
I think for us, of course, it's been the cornerstone.
I think back at some times
when maybe we were having rougher times in our life,
but we were still involved at church,
working with the teenagers.
Those are the things that would pull us back together
because every Sunday night, the teenagers were at our house,
we got to get it together, clean up the house and be nice.
And not in a negative, bad way, but that helped us,
that gave us a center of things that were going,
when other things were going on around us,
God was so much a part of our life and that pulled us always back together. But I would never say that if you marry
somebody who's not a Christian, he can't become that because certainly that's such a testimony to
stay with somebody and continue to love the Lord and bring them around. But if you have a choice,
I would look for somebody who loves the Lord because you start off with one plus
and your plus side, you've got that.
That's good, that's great, I love that.
I would say it's vital.
I just think that it is so important in our relationship.
And also I think because there's that structure of marriage
and what God had intended for marriage
and the way and the commitment.
I mean, we feel like we made an oath before God
for our marriage.
And if you didn't have that,
I think when the tough times came,
you'd be like, nah, why?
Why stay?
So I think the fact that, you know,
to marry someone that loves the Lord,
I think is really important.
Another thing too, I remember,
there's something my aunt said at a women's thing.
She said, you're not your husband's Holy Spirit,
he has one.
And so like, if your husband does not have
the Holy Spirit working on him,
then it's easy to give up hope because like,
sometimes like, you really wanna be your husband's
Holy Spirit.
You wanna be like the one saying,
hey, you should do this or don't do that
or like, hey, work on that.
But if you know that he has Holy Spirit inside of him
and that God is working in his life,
well, as well, it's easier to be patient with them
to be like, okay, I'm gonna let God do his work.
I've got prayer, I can talk to God about it
and I can know that He's working in His life
because He does have the Holy Spirit inside of Him.
And I know that He's gonna work that out.
I don't have to work that out.
And so I do think that's another
just really important part of
being someone who loves the Lord.
I love that, it's so good, y'all.
This has been so good.
Thank y'all so much for coming on
and sharing your stories, it was so good. This was fun. Thank you for having us. This is so good y'all. This has been so good. Thank you all so much for coming on and sharing your stories. It was so good.
This is fun. Thank you for having us. Come back. Okay. We will.