WHOA That's Good Podcast - From Insecurity to Freedom – It Was All God | Sadie Robertson Huff & Indi Kent

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Sadie and Indi Kent launched what are now global ministries in the simplest, most personal way: by hyping up their sister. Sadie recorded a heartfelt video for Bella about living original, while Indi wrote a letter sharing everything she wishes she could tell her younger self about surviving high school (aka some of the most emotionally chaotic years of a young woman’s life). Today, Indi’s Pink Letters land in the inboxes of high school girls around the world each month, bringing encouragement, truth, and a reminder that they are fully known and deeply loved as God’s daughters. In this conversation, Sadie and Indi get real about high school struggles, the fleshly desires that challenged their faith, and how those memories can still feel loud years later. But just look at what God has done. To learn more about Pink Letters, visit https://pinkletters.co.uk/ This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://jonesroadbeauty.com — Get a free Shimmer Face Oil on with your first purchase when you use code WHOA at checkout! https://timtebow.com/tree-whoa/ — Get your copy of If the Tree Could Speak by Tim Tebow on Amazon today! https://fastgrowingtrees.com — Get 20% off your first purchase when you use the code WHOA at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Happy Monday. I hope you're having a great start to your week, but this is about to bring some joy no matter where you are because we have such a sweet sister and friend on the podcast today. And I cannot wait for you to hear her story. She's doing incredible things through pink letters. And I can't wait to get to that. But she's just an incredible friend. I'm so thankful to introduce her to all of you if you don't already know her. It's Indy Kent all the way from England. Welcome to Louisiana again. I know. Come on. Two times in one year. Yeah, I love it here. It reminds me of where I grew up. Really? Small town. Yeah.

I'm like, everyone hates on the small town, but I'm for it. I'm so for it. Yeah. People come here and they have, you know, they're like, what? Why do you live from? I'm like, no, you're missing the magic sauce. Like, this is where it's at. It's so special.

Everyone lives around the corner. Yep. Like yesterday, I actually went to Hobby Lobby. And I had like, I had a hat on. And I was like, call my husband, like, just talk to me. see like way too many people I know. I mean, that sounds terrible, but you know how it is. That's a small town.

The blessing of it is that you see so many people you know everywhere you go. On a bad day, you're like, please don't look at me. Everyone knows my business. Everyone. It's so funny. Okay, so tell us a little bit about where you grew up because it is a little different than here. It is. Yeah, so I grew up in the UK in a tiny little village.

And my mom has five siblings. My dad has four. And so, like, one of five, one of four. And so there's a lot of cousins and everyone lives in the same village. So still to this day, like, everyone lives in this tiny. That actually is really similar to us. Yes. And my grandpa led the local church.

Wow. So we were all at the same church. We all went to the same primary schools and, like, was in the same friendship groups and just grew up walking around to each other's houses. And what's crazy as well is that my, dad was a musician he was in a band and he was in a band with all of my uncles and so we also traveled together when they when the band would go travel and go on tour tour bus life bus tour bus life that was like my childhood and so that was me and all my cousins so we all lived in this tiny like village wow

yeah we were all traveling like all over the world but then you just come home and you're like no one like no one like one cares here. That is awesome. And so yeah, it was the best, but family has always been, like, so cool to, like, who our values and who we are, even just as of my family. But, like, there's so many of us. It's just always been, like, so ingrained in us. That's so cool. Family, yeah. And y'all, there's six of your siblings. Like, we had so much in common when we first at lunch, which we'll get to and how we met. But I was like, wow, our lives are so similar and it's so cool when you meet someone who lives like in a completely different part of the world and you have so many similarities. It's like six kids and the tour

bus life and you know you're kind of going around in the world but then you come back to this like really quiet small town where no one cares you know in the best way and I think that's such a blessing. Tell us a little bit about your dad's bam because people might be Googling Indykin's dad right now. He was a man called Delirious which was kind of like 90s 2000s era and they were a Christian rock band that traveled around and then yeah I was all my uncles in the band

which is hilarious so it was just all family but it started from like hosting youth events in this village that's special yeah it grew from like yeah literally the local youth group which is so cool that's crazy how old were you I wasn't born when it's started. Yeah. So I think my, it was before my oldest sister Ellie was born. So she's

28 now. Wow. And so yeah, it went, it ran for like 17 years and we just got to, we just got to travel the world. It was honestly the wildest childhood to like be chatting with your mates and they're like, what are you doing for this summer? And I'm like, I'm going to every state in America. Like, it's crazy. But for a day. It's not like, I'm traveling. in the world. I'm like seeing the car park of a venue and I'm going to Walmart. But yeah, like it's not travel in the world. But it was, yeah, it was the wildest childhood seeing people like experience Jesus in so many different ways like around the world. Everyone does it and experiences him in such different ways to do with their culture. And it was, yeah, nuts to be able to see,

to see that. And once you see something like that, you're just like, I don't think I could ever deny him now. Wow. I was just like, he is so real. And I just got to see his realness everywhere. And it was like, you guys don't know what these guys are doing, but yet you're somehow on the same page. Wow. And then you're speaking in a different language, but you're kind of saying the same thing, but in another language, I'm like, only God can do this. Yeah. It's so cool. It's, it's so cool. A lot of people had told me about your family before I met y'all in the context of people would say like, oh, you got to meet Indy because she's doing so many similar things as you, but in the UK, or you need to meet Martin Smith because he has the purest heart and the way

they lead their family and Anna, because, you know, we're about to step into going on a little bit of a tour. And I used to tour before I had kids and before I got married, but then whenever I got married, I was like, oh, that feels a little crazy to do with our family. family and there's just like new territory. Yeah, right. And they were like, no, you need to meet Anna and them and you need to ask them all their advice because they, people would say they're like the fun family on the road that's actually like pure-hearted.

Like, you know what I mean? Like it's the bus you want to be on, but it's like wholesome fun. And like they just bring all the kids and they love Jesus so much. And it just gave me so much hope that, okay. And I know other people do that too, like Carrie and Cody. Oh, yeah. Are doing an incredible job with that. And Carrie is actually the one that told me about you.

And likewise as well. She was like, you've got to meet Cidi. I was like, okay, one day. Shout out to Carrie because she got us here. But I just heard such wonderful things. And so, you know, to know you now and to hear your experience and your stories, like, I hope that, you know, one day, honey is telling somebody like, we got to see God in the craziest ways. And he's so real and you can't deny him. And like, of course, that is the reality that he is so real. And we're seeing it. But so many times I think, like, people get so jaded, you know. and people can do things for the wrong reasons, but to be around so many like-minded, pure-hearted people,

like everyone I know truly, I'm thinking of all the people we've had on this podcast, people that I know who are doing, like pure hearts. Like, we have great leaders in the world right now, and I'm thankful for that, and your family certainly is that. So I mentioned how we met. So Carrie actually told me, she's like, you got to meet this girl.

She's amazing. She's doing these pink letters. It reminds me so much of your heart. Like, you just need to meet her. And then we happened to be going to London with our family. Yeah. And I think I DM'd you. Yeah.

I just DM you. And I was like, hey, I've heard a lot about you, you know, all this stuff. We should meet. I didn't realize like how far you lived from London. And you were like, yeah, let's have breakfast. I felt so bad. We even met in the morning. No, no, no.

I was like, I am going. Like, no matter what it takes, I'm coming. Because you've been. How did you even get there? Was it like? I just got the train. The train. I thought that was so cool.

You're like, yeah, I was just on the train this morning. And I popped on over. I was like, wait, how long was that? No, honestly. I mean, where I live is kind of like a commuter town for people who work in London. But still, I was like, I'm seeing this girl. It's crazy. Yeah.

And we had like the best conversation. I literally didn't even realize how much time had passed. And then all of a sudden, remember Christian shows up with the girls? He's like, we have a whole day. And I was like, wait, what? It's been like two hours. Are you kidding me? We could have talked literally all day because we had so much in common.

And then everything you were saying, I was like, yes, I want to champion that. Like, I want to be a part of it in any way I can. I want to shout that out to the world. And you were vice versa. You're like, hello, sister seems amazing. I want to come to conference. And then you and your mom and your sister ended up coming to conference. And it was the biggest blessing.

Oh, my gosh, we loved it. Tell this story a little bit because you wrote this in the cart. because you had like prayed about coming or something before we even met? This is nuts. I, at the beginning of this year, I was just like, I would, I have so many dreams this year. And so I just drew them out. And I just did like a picture journal. And I like drew all the things that I would love to see.

And you know when you're like, these are sometimes like God things. It's like, God's, if this is in your world, but also I'm like, some of them were like cute little like. Yeah. If that happens, that would be so funny. And so I drew a ticket of the L.O. conference because me and my sister every year, we were like, we've got to go. Like, one day. We've just got to do it. Like, it looks so fun. And just, we've watched you from afar. And we're just like, this girl is so legit. Like, we've just got to, like, see what she's doing over there. And so, yeah, I drew a tiny little, like, LO ticket. And then. And this is before we met. Before we met. Before we met. Before all that. Yes, literally. And then, yeah, it was literally we met in February. So it's crazy. So it happens. So. quickly and then that is crazy so I just had to shout out God for that and dream journals because I'm that I love that too like I've done at the beginning of your like kind of vision for the year and this would be

so cool if this happened and so many of those God has done and it just increases your faith because you're like whoa like you didn't even have to do that that was just like the fun thing but you did it he's so kind he's just like the sweetest gift you're like only my dad would know that yeah oh that's so cool I love that okay friends for a long time my relationship with makeup was a little complicated. Trying to cover everything up, took forever, and I'd look in the mirror and I'd barely even look like me. We don't want that. And now it's a busy mom. I don't have time for a 12-step routine anyway. I just want my actual face, healthy and radiant. And that's why I love Jones Road Beauty. And I have loved them for a while. Their miracle bomb is a

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After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them from. Please support our show and tell them that our show sent you there. The reason why so many people wanted us to meet is because we do have a lot of similarities and your heart is so for sisterhood. And you started something called pink letters. So I want everyone in the world to hear about this because I just love it so much. But tell me a little bit about what you do. also the backstory on what led you to do it. Yes. Okay. So I really struggled at school, like particularly

high school. And I was one of the only Christians in my school. So that was like super tough in itself. But just the like amount of stuff I had to go through as a teenage girl. And like I don't, I don't think my experience was like anything extra. Like I just think I probably had the baseline of what girls go through at school. Plus being a Christian, which is, you know, already made me stand out in my school. Yeah, speak to that a little bit because that is different here than it is there. Yeah, in the UK, like, if it's not such a common thing to basically say you're a Christian, if you're not, like, practicing following Jesus and, like, committing your life. So, like, yeah, in the UK, if you see a Christian, you're, like, you're going for it. Not cool. It's not a cool thing to say.

It's kind of a negative. Yes, it's not like a moral, yeah. It doesn't have the same thing here. And you didn't really know a lot of Christians in your high school. No, I was literally, yeah, I think I was one of the only Christians in my school, which was really hard. And so I just found, I mean, I was one of the only girls that wasn't experiencing anxiety or panic attacks or self-harm. And it was just so hard to be, to see. also see how just the world wasn't like wasn't aware of what was going on. It felt like

none of my youth leaders understood what was actually getting spoken about. Like what guys were actually saying about girls. That's like really hard to repeat. But we should be repeating. This is what's going on or how people speak about your body and the things that are supposed to just be jokes. And like how, yeah, how much. much just happened and I just also was probably one of the first kind of generation to have phones at schools which now I think they're like kind of retracting but it was a free-for-all when I was in school and so social media in school Snapchat in the toilet it's like in the bathroom sorry um wow so it was it was so much and I remember when I left school I was like I could not think

about like that was so hard I was Christ so much going into school and trying to be so strong in my faith and be bold and like I'd get grilled about my faith and what I believed and it was so testing for my faith but I remember just leaving and thinking I just do not want to go back like that was so hard what if you can remember like some of the things specifically that felt so hard because I feel the same way high school was brutal and Snapchat was awful and Twitter was just absolute war zone like it was just so mean. And Snapchat was so inappropriate. Twitter was so mean and cruel.

And Instagram wasn't even like, that wasn't even the big thing. Instagram I felt for us was kind of like I just post whatever I want and it doesn't really matter. Like it's not what it is now. But that was so hard. I feel like girls were awful and guys were very. inappropriate. I remember all that. Like you're taking me back to it as you're talking about. I forgot. But when you mentioned Snapchat and you mentioned, you're like, oh yeah. I'm like, oh yeah, that was rough. And things guys were saying, like, I know. It was bad. But obviously, it's probably gotten a little worse because

social media is only ramped up. Yeah. And just inappropriateness. But what are some of those feelings that you remember having? Like, when you say like baseline, high school girl, struggle, what does that look like. I mean, I remember, and like I went to a nice school, so I don't want to paint this picture. I'm like, I went to a lovely school. But I remember I would be sitting in class and do you guys have like the pair of compasses, you know, where it's like you draw a perfect circle with the, the like tool that helps you draw a perfect circle. Do you know? Okay. Probably. Probably. We call them a pair of compasses, but it has a needle on the end of it because you stamp it in the paper and then you can like make a perfect circle. I was sitting next to a girl who was slitting her wrists with the needle.

Oh my gosh. And then I would be in piano and I would see scars up my friend's arms. Wow. Because they would be playing the piano and their sleeves would raise. Wow. And I remember going into the toilets to the bathroom and hearing crying in the corner and one of my friends had gone to a clinic and got an abortion. Wow.

And like this is the, that is the reality. Like, it is so hard to get your head around that young girls are going through all of these things. But that is my experience and that was like still, you know, six, seven years ago now. And so there was just so much that also you keep to yourself because there's just not really much room to bring that out to the table, especially if it's not your, you know, your only personal experience. You know, where do I process that? Where do I bring that out? You know, if my youth leaders aren't quite aware of, you know, what's going on.

And like, it's a hard thing to talk about. But also, like, guys saying just, like, so much stuff about your body. When you said that, I remember, like, I specifically have this memory of needing to get up. up to get a tissue and not wanting to get up because I knew what certain guys would say literally just from me walking past the front because they would be so inappropriate. Yeah. And I was like, man, that's crazy. I had forgotten how that made you feel, you know?

And I remember like as a girl, you're kind of trying to walk that line of like, you know that's inappropriate and you know that's wrong but then you're in high school so like you want the attention and it's like no but that's not right yeah but if that's what guys want like you're yeah the testing of your faith of like am i going to dress this way because then guys will notice me more but do i really want that from guys do i want them to notice me like that but then am i you know that's that's that's a hard yeah i know it's so true even you see that i remember like making a choice that i wasn't going to roll my skirt or we wore like school skirts because we're in the UK you have uniforms and it was like a kilt but um every

girl would roll their skirt and i was like that is one thing like that i'm not gonna fall susceptible like i'm not going to fall to that i'm not going to i don't need to do that but there's something so like fun about that oh just like just a little one but i'm like no okay like what is my things that i really believe in and yeah it is i mean but then it's it's it's hard because in the same breath, there's also some really funny, I have some funny memories. I remember this guy. I remember this, I was pretty, you know, when it's like little buds, you know, let's be honest.

It's like, there's nothing there. But I remember a guy coming up to me and being like, indie, if you didn't have feet, would you wear socks? And I was like, no, probably not. I was like, well, why do you wear a bra then? Oh, my God. like, wait, that's actually kind of funny, but also devastating. That is so hilarious.

That's so funny. Okay, but like that is like the funny part of it. So like you kind of have to laugh as well. Whereas like there are moments. There's really tough moments. But then there's also moments. You're like, okay, we are all teenagers and like we're all figuring this out together. And it's kind of there are moments where you just got laugh.

Well, I love that. You say that because, yes, there's so many funny moments. And when I think back, although I was like, I was like, I was strong in my faith. I also really struggle with that. And thinking about the wrestle that was, now I'm like, I'm more confident to make those decisions. But back, like, the other day, I put on my little, like, leggings and it had like a cropped jacket. And then right before I left the house, I like caught a glimpse myself in the mirror. I was like, I shouldn't wear this. Like, this is not appropriate. I was like, and I literally said to Christian, I said, I look

so much cuter with this crop jacket. Yeah. But I'm going to go back in there. And I'm going to put on a bigger, well done. Sweat shirt. And I was. And I was like, I was like, and I was. And I was I was like, and it's, it's frustrating because I look a lot cuter in this, but that's, to me, I actually do not want a man to look at me and appropriately. And so I'm not going to do that, you know, and, you know, people can argue that all day long and be like, well, men need a bubble. I'm like, okay, yes, but also, like, I can respect myself in this way. I don't want that unwanted attention. Yeah.

So if I'm home, I'll wear the crop jacket and look all cute for my husband, but I don't need to, like, wear this to Academy to get my hunting gear when I'm about to be around a bunch of men. Like, you know what I mean? Discurement, you know? It's so true. It's just like I've grown in that where it does. Like, it's okay. I don't have to look that way.

But I'm also married now, so I feel more confident. But when you're in high school, it's like, oh, I don't want that attention. But then I kind of do, like that my flesh is telling me I do. But I know that's actually not right, you know? And so I empathize thinking back to high school. It's easier now to say that and laugh about it. It's really hard when you're in it. And so many college girls and high school girls are listening to this podcast and going like, wow, you see me.

And I love what you're saying about like the youth pastor and not speaking to that because I was in church that whole time. And no one, I never heard, you know, the youth pastor be like speaking to that problem necessarily. Like we talk about modesty. We talk about that. But like, can we talk about just the flesh wanting and desiring something and how to die to self and how to, you know. Yeah. You know, push back that flesh and really invite the fruits of the spirit in and how to trust that God sees you and has you in those moments.

Like, there's just a deeper conversation to be had. Yeah. So I just, I love what you're saying. And I know we're going around about way to tell the story. But no, no, I like love that. It needs to be said. I'm glad you're saying it. Okay, I want to share something that shifted how I see Easter.

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It was like repeat, just like the same troubles, the same struggles with hot and cold friends. Like one day you're my friend, one day or not. Hold on. Like explain that. Like so many different things that they would then go through. And it was like I was, it was like a mirror holding up to my face.

I'm like, oh my gosh, I know so well what this is like. for them. The reality was so hard to like face and then I just was really struggling. I was like, why, why? How can I do something that would just like help? I can't solve every problem. Like I can't, I am not the savior, you know, I can't save them. But what can I do that's in my hands that could just help my little sisters? And I was talking to my little sister Ruby and I said to her, like what can I do here? Like how can I help you? Like I just feel so frustrated at this problem and I just don't know what to do.

And she said, do you know what? Could you just write me a letter of like everything you'd love to tell your younger self? I was like, I think I can do that. Like I can buy some paper, I can buy some envelopes, I can buy some stamps. And so I then was a local, a local youth leader. A yoga leader. A yoga leader. And I was a local youth group leader.

And so I was like, I wonder if the girls in that group would like one too. And so I basically made a Google form. So sketchy now looking back to it. It was like I was 18 and I put it out on Instagram and I just said, if there is any girls in the ages of 11 to 18, that would love some encouragement every month. I would love to send you a letter and share everything I would like to tell my younger self not to do what to do or how to navigate certain situations and Just encourage you in this in this time

And that day I was just not expecting it at all, but I had like hundreds of sign-ups and I was like Wow, this is so needed like there's so many girls looking for encouragement in this time in this season. I was just looking for help and and guidance. Someone who just understands. And so I went out and I got pink paper and pink envelopes because I was like, that's fun and girly. And so that's where pink letters came from.

So cool. And yeah, it was so funny. I just started writing very simple letters and it gets addressed to the girl, which is so beautiful. So like the name gets inputted into the letter. And what started to happen was these girls would get these letters and they would just start plastering them. on their bedroom walls or in lockers.

And there's this one story I love, which is this mom was cleaning out this her daughter's blazer at the end of the school year. And she was like emptying out all the pockets to put it in the washing machine. And she found one of these pink letters in the inside pocket.

And she asked her daughter like, what is this? And her daughter had said, oh, that's like, that's a pink letter. And inside the letter, it says that if I need to remind myself who I am and the truth of who I am, go in and read this, going to the bathrooms and read this.

And I'd basically taken scripture and put it into this letter. And so this girl had opened this letter so many times and read this truth over herself in the school cubicle, toilet cubicle, that she, it completely faded. Wow. And this mom was like, I just have to tell you, like, this is what's going on. And so that was wild for me to see. But then also the fact that this truth is living,

on bedroom walls. And so then now we, my husband's a designer and he designs the back cover of it. And so we make a poster on the back of kind of what the letter's about. And so now there's like posters. It's like what was magazine covers is now what I pray is truth, you know, on like on people's bedroom walls. So cool. So yeah, that's and now, yeah, it's just those.

We've had the pink letters all over L.O. conference. Yeah. All in the bathrooms and they're so cute. Like the little designs that are so cute. And I'll be like, God sees you. You are loved. Oh, hey, girl. Like, they're so fun.

Like, then they carry so much depth and so much truth. And I love how God has just taken this simple thing because I always tell people, like, use what you have, like, what's in your hands? Right. And that's such a practical story of, like, you going, what can I do for my sister? I mean, it's the ultimate sister and friend moment. Like, what can I do for my sister? Can you write me a letter? Yes. I could probably do this for some more people, too.

Local youth group. Can you write me a letter? Yes. Now it's multiplied, but like you didn't do it for it to reach the world. You did it to reach your sister. And I think that like if more people had the heart, what can I do for my sister? You'll be amazed at how that can touch the world. Wow. Yeah. And I think so many times like we're thinking too like of the world that we miss like the sister moment. And like that that is where the magic's at.

Like that's where God really gives you the heart of like what to speak to. Because I think of even for me, whenever I started Live Original, I had written the book, but I hadn't spoke or done anything like that. And I was like exact same thing. I was struggling in high school. I was insecure. Everybody I knew was insecure. Everybody I knew struggled with body image.

Everyone I knew struggled with the whole guy thing. Like it was just hard. and I was tired of it I was like why is this so like why is this so normal and why has this just become okay it's almost like we expect to struggle with those things we expect it to be like that so it's not even like

something that you talk about as a bad thing it just is what it is I was sick of it and at the time I was also feeling a lot of I think guilt because a lot of people would this was when goals was a thing like your goals and like I would post pictures and just be like goals goals goals but I was like so insecure wow so I felt this like guilt of like people think I'm confident and I'm not yeah and people think like this image is the goal but I actually really

struggle and so um anyways I had just like gotten out of the shower my hair was like well I had no makeup on I like had I think I had like my pajamas on and And I, we'll talk about sketch. This is so sketch. I turned on I movie. That's the only thing I had on my computer. And I like, hit the button. And it was like literally curtains.

And it said three, two, one of the curtains came off. And I was like, hey, I'm Sadie Profferson. Oh my gosh. The confidence is incredible. I didn't even have a YouTube channel. I didn't even do this. I just was like, I'm just going to do this for me. Yeah.

Because I just want to have this. And for my sister, literally my little sister. And so I make this video and I'm like, and God looks at, you know, I talk about how like, man looks at the outward difference, like, God looks at the heart. And I like, talked about the heart and about how I'm insecure. And I was like, this is what I, now I wouldn't do this because I feel like I'm more aware of like sharing body size, like what you wear. But I went through the sizes that I was. And I said, and I'm insecure and I struggle. And like, because I remember at the time, I was doing a little bit of modeling.

realized like every one of the models was tiny but they were insecure and they were like still striving for something else and I kind of was me saying like I'm not going to keep like waiting until I get to a certain thing to be confident like I'm just going to be confident now and I'm going to live original so I do this message of live original my sister gets back from youth group she walks my room and say what are you doing I'm like um I just made this little video yeah and I was like and I just really made it for me and if you think like it should go and out like you tell me or if this is like cringy. I don't even know if we use the word cringy,

but I was like, if this is like not cool, then like tell me. Oh my gosh, you can count on your younger sister to tell you. I know. Like that's the scariest person to show something to. And so Bella watched it and she was like, say, this is really good and this is actually really helpful. And so she helped me make a YouTube channel. And I posted the video on YouTube.

And to this day, it's my biggest video I've ever posted on YouTube. And yeah, to this day, nothing has beat it. I've done this for like, what, 10 years? Nothing has beat that. No way. Maybe our wedding video, but I don't even think our wedding video beat it. And it was crazy because right after I posted it, Good Morning America, literally called and had me on the show to talk about the video.

Wow. Because it was so vulnerable. And at the time, like now we see people do stuff like that. That wasn't like you didn't just get on and just share your biggest insecurity with no makeup. You know, that just wasn't a thing. And it was so contrast to what was out there on social media. And I was talking about faith and Jesus. So you go where America had me on.

I got to tell the story of Live Original. And that kick started everything I'm doing. But again, it was for my sister. It was for me. And so I think that you do have to simplify, like what's in your hands, what's in your heart, what's the need around you. I heard a girl yesterday. She, it was so crazy.

She's one of our LLO Local ambassadors now. And I was just, I thought I was meeting her for the first time. And so I was, you know, hey, tell me your story. Like, how did you get involved being an ambassador? Because we were meeting all of our local ambassadors. And she said, well, actually, we met a few years ago in a coffee shop. I go, oh, my gosh, I remember. And I said, you asked me like a really specific question, didn't you?

She was like, yes. She's like, I actually came up to you and I said, I want to do what you're doing. How do I start? And she said, you said to me, well, if you're looking at my life and you're thinking it's a stage or you're thinking it's a podcast, whatever, she's like, I said to her, don't think like that. Start with where you're at with what you have. And she said, when you said that, I was like, duh. And so she was like, I started to look for local things to get involved with Bible studies and stuff.

And then one thing led to another. And my team doesn't know we had this encounter. This is years later. And now she's our local ambassador leading the Bible study because she's been doing this for the last couple years since we met. Like what? It's such a good example of like, what do you have in your head? hands. What's in your heart? What do you have in your hands to actually do something about it? And if God decides to give it a platform, God will. Yeah. But if not, you bless your sister, you bless your

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see the number of girls that I was sending a letter to and I just felt so responsible. I was like, I'm going to screw up all of these girls' lives. Just because you had so much input, is that what you felt? Yeah, I was just like that whatever I write in these letters has the impact to change a girl's thought process or to, you know, have her act a different way. Like, you know, that is the impact and that's why everything is rooted in scripture, but more like I was. just so, it felt so weighty. I just felt like, I cannot. I feel like I just felt so serious in a way.

It was like, God, you need to be with me in every single letter. And like, I need to know you're in every letter to know that like the Holy Spirit carries with these letters and meets the girl. Because this is another thing is you can give someone advice and it might be the right advice for one girl and the wrong advice for the next. And so it has to be like the Holy Spirit has to be part of it where he he can cover. I'm smiling because I get this. That that right there was crippling for me for a really long time before I would like preach places, especially at like passion where it was like such a big room. Yeah. And I would be like, well, if I say this, then what about the person who just went through dot, dot, dot, duh. And then how is that going to sound? And then ultimately it's like,

you have to offer that to the Lord and trust that God. I remember hearing Priscilla Shire pray before she spoke one time. And it's really weird because you know how people pray before they speak, but you don't really remember what they prayed. Yeah. But I like remember her praying this. She prayed, God, would you take this word and divide it into every heart in this room? Wow.

And I remember thinking like, that's it. Like you're going to divide this message and you're going to divide it into the way that every single person needs to hear it. And they're going to hear it the way you intend. for them to hear it. And it's amazing because I remember one time specifically preaching a message and then I thought about someone I knew in the room and what they just went through. And I thought, I wonder how that landed on their ears. Just because what they're going through is hard, not that what I said wasn't true, but that might be confusing to them with what they just went through. So I took that person to coffee and you don't always get that opportunity, but I actually knew this person

so I was able to. And I was amazed at the way she heard it and how God met her in it. And I felt like the Lord reminded me like it's not my responsibility necessarily. Like that's the Holy Spirit's job. You know, like it's our job to be faithful in what he called us to do. And the Holy Spirit is going to like work the heart. But that is a weight that I really do understand. And I think that, but I also think that's why God chose you.

I think that's a pure heart. I remember Shelley Giglio telling me one time, I was so scared to speak at passion for this reason. And I was like, I just saw, how do you trust me to do this? I don't. And I was like, I just don't, like, what if I say the wrong thing? And she was like, this is why we trust you because we trust God in you. And she was like, and because we know that you're dependent on him. And she said, I would never ask someone to go on this stage who was totally confident.

And I was like, that's actually really cool. Like, she's like, I wouldn't trust someone who was totally confident. Wow. I like trust the person who's dependent on the Lord. Yeah. And so I think it's a beautiful wrestle to wrestle out with the Lord. But I think the way and the way you carry it is something beautiful but can feel heavy. Yeah, 100%.

It really can. And there's a fine line of fear and then like holy fear. Mm-hmm. Just like the fear of the God, the fear of the Lord, really. And then fear of man. and how, you know, on a good day, it's like, great, let's go. And then on a bad day, you're like, I've screwed up this letter. I send a letter out and I'm like, what have I just said?

Yeah, like, what have I just? But, yeah, you're so right. And it's a funny thing as well, like, with it being so simple. Like, it's not, it's not anything that, like, exciting, you know, what it is to me, But also it's like it's just pen and paper and a stamp and an envelope. And it's been a real challenge as well of the natural projection of kind of organizations or businesses in what kind of comes next. And it's been really, it's been a real challenge where I feel he's called me, he's asked me to

write these letters. and then where my mind goes is great so then I'll I'll do this and then I'll do this and this and this and this and this and like I'm gonna okay great and that's what that's what you've got me to do and then I'm like wow no just letters at the minute like just obedient with the letters yeah and it's been seven years now and honestly like the the the perseverance he's built in me through this like there's been so many times when I'm like getting older now maybe I don't really understand or you know should I should yeah what what should I do

should I keep going or is this like has it had its time should I pass the baton to someone else like but the simplicity of the just like I just want you to do this like just this is what I have for you and like keeping it and maybe one day he'll be like great let's do this let's do this together let's do that

But even that of like, oh, yeah, okay, just where I am right now is okay. Yeah, but it is weighty. That is something that, as you're talking, I'm like, hmm, that's so interesting. I feel like I feel like it's almost a scheme of the enemy to plant those, like, doubts. Like, like, oh, do I not get it now? I'm older or whatever. Because I feel that, like, when you're talking, I'm like, man, I, I say the same things.

And then I'm like, but then when you hear other people talk about the way they see you, the way you're like, really, do you think that? Like, because you're like, I don't see that myself like that or I don't see this like that. But I think that one thing that I think in general this generation struggles with is committing to something and persevering through something. And we sow so many seeds in the ground and water. and then we just walk away and just were like, that didn't work, do this, do this, do that.

And then you look back and it's like you didn't grow anything and the fruit didn't happen. But like, because people are in such a rush and they think like, okay, I need to be doing my dream job or everything God put in me by the time I'm 25, and that's just not realistic. Like you might be on the path of that. But like you've got to sow seeds and water the ground

and like plow it takes time before you actually see things grow. And even when you start to see it grow, and it's beautiful, God's going to, by his grace, keep putting more to grow this, like, guard and to grow this, like, field. It's not, it's not just necessarily one thing. Yeah. But I do think there is something to, like, sticking with that ground, sticking with that plan, sticking with that design that he gave you, even if it takes a lot of time. And ultimately, there's a blessing in that. Yeah. And I was actually just telling Honey that the other day with her schoolwork, I was, like, telling her, because I showed her something she did, I

the beginning of the school year. And she was like, that's terrible. And I was like, and she's so hard on herself. I said, and I'm showing you that to show you how far you've come. And I was like, and even in the same vein, she's doing gymnastics. And she like wants to do this back hands for me. She's four years old. And so I'm teaching her like how we're going to, for right now, honey, all we're going to do is we're going to sit and then we're going to jump up with our handshake. That's all we're going to do. And she practices every day. She's like, I just want to do it. I just I'm ready to do it. And so, honey, this could take you a long time to do it because practically, your arms aren't even long enough yet to protect your head.

Yeah. But we're going to do stretches right now that eventually when you do it, it's all going to come together perfectly. And I was telling her, use the example of a tree. And I was like, you see all these trees? I'm like, do you know how they had to start? A seed in the ground and water. And I said, and then roots had to grow, honey.

And then one day this tree came. And I was like, right now what we're doing is we're establishing the roots in the ground. We're doing the fundamentals of a backhand spring. and when your body physically grows big enough to do it, you're going to be able to do it because your roots are going to be strong. And I'm trying to give her that vision for the future. And so I think God gives you that vision for the future to go,

okay, what I'm working on now eventually is going to build to that. But I can't give up right now what I'm doing and throw this away and go any other way to get there. Like I physically can't get there yet, you know? And so I think it's cool. I just, as you were talking, I was like, man, I'm experiencing that in my own life. You are.

And then the lesson I'm giving honey speaks to us. Sometimes I do feel like childlike faith. I feel this way. I feel like I look at that verse differently now that I have kids because when I break it down for them, I understand it more of myself. And I'm like, oh, that makes so much sense. I physically just can't get there yet.

But that doesn't mean that that's not the right goal and that's not the right vision. I just have to work towards it right now. And the steps to get there really simple. It's sitting and jumping. You know, but it's building something. Oh my gosh. That's so beautiful.

I remember whenever we started low and I had all the what-ifs. What if I fail? What if it isn't where I need to be? And looking back, I can see so clearly that God had his hand in the whole thing. Starting something new is exciting, but it's also very scary. And that's why I'm thankful for Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from massive brands to tiny startups.

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Again, that's Shopify.com slash woe. But I think what you're doing, it's so cool how God's are. showed you glimpses of the impact like Uganda what I know tell us about that that was nuts I had a girl reach out to me with her mom and they said we're going on a mission strip to Uganda to this home where girls are in like rehabilitation they've like teenage teenage girls who have either pregnant or have just had a baby and they're living in poverty and don't have the support around them And so it's kind of, it's a home for teenage moms. And we would love, and they said,

we would love to take some of these letters out to these girls. And I was just like, mind-blown that letter, that I could write a letter that would reach a young mom in Uganda. And so we worked on a letter and we translated it partly. And it was, I was praying about it. And it just was like, God was, so clear. I'm just like, I just want you to, them to know that they're my daughter. Like that. That was all I got from God was like just repeat it as many times, but they are my daughter.

And I think like, there's something so powerful about like the dad and the daughter thing. And it just like wrecks me every time. He's such a good dad. And we like, that is like, our first love. Like, that's who we see. That's like our reference point for everything. And so then to like write a letter to probably a lot of girls who don't have a dad was just like the wildest thing. Like God, you would use me to say that, to remind them that. And so yeah, I got to like, got to write, yeah, this letter out and they took these letters out

and they send me a picture of this like line of women with their pink letter standing. And it just has like a, my husband drew a little girl holding onto a hand. And they were just holding it up. And it was just, it's wild. But it's so like kind of not jumping back, but slightly when, you know,

You know, you said just now, like, oh, honey's so hard on herself. I'm like, it's so interesting, and I don't know if you relate to this at all, but like, there's still such a, like, fight of, like, God, am I doing what you want me to do? Like, am I, and it's like everyday fighting for, like, oh, I just want to do what you want me to do. Every day, like, I still sometimes, I just want to do the right thing. I just like, am I doing enough? Like, am I reading my Bible enough? Am I putting enough time to it?

Sometimes I'm like, gosh, I just so distracted. Like sometimes, you know, I don't spend, you know, my days thinking about it. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, you've given me this, like how. But how I actually had a friend, this lady, she's a pastor in our local area. I don't actually know her that well. but she just said that she wanted to come and see me. And she sat across from the table and she just said, sorry, I just wanted to come here and tell you that God is just so thankful for what you're doing.

Wow. And I was just like, wow, to think he is thankful, like, you know, of like, gosh, I feel like I'm just constantly trying to please my dad, constantly trying to like, how am I doing, you know, all these wonderful things like oh like but he just like he's so proud of like of you yeah and like what you've done and like he's so proud of honey and he's so proud of us and it's like such a wild concept to think like the king of kings yeah knows my name yeah but also calls me daughter yeah and is thankful for what i'm doing yeah of my tiny little letters and my you know

know, words that I, you know, I'm trying to, you know, get from him and, you know, sitting at my desk and no one was, and even for you, I'm like, no one's, there's so many moments no one will ever see. But he's just like, so wild. It's so wild to me. Just wants your presence. Like, you do see that when you become a parent because when your kids get home, you know, or you get home from work or your kids go home from school or, you know, or you get home from school or

whatever, like you don't want them or need them to do anything for you or like impress you or perform or do whatever. It's like you just want to be with them. You just want to hang out with them. I just want to hear how their day was. And like, and you're just so proud of them. Not because they did anything. Like my kids are four and two. They're not doing like super impressive things. But like in a baby, but you're just so proud of who they are. They're just everything about them. Their smile, the way that they light up, the way that they make people laugh, the good friends that they are to other people. Like you're just so proud of him who they are. And it teaches you the lesson of like, oh, that's how God sees me. Like you see it. Oh, you see me. Like I see them. Oh, I've looked at this wrong. You know? And I remember one day it was before conference last year.

And I was just like overwhelmed so many things. And at the time, had two kids and felt that that was crazy. I know three was going to be crazier. And I was just like, I felt like I just wasn't doing enough in any area of my life. Like I was like, I'm not doing the best job I could do as a mom or as a wife or as someone leading L.O. And it was like, nothing was going like great on my behalf. I was just like, I'm just not giving anything my best. And so finally I was trying to. And so finally after like a final.

finally felt like got the kids down and I did this and that and blah blah I was like okay I'm gonna go spend time with the Lord and I had geared up to come to the Lord like repentant like I'm sorry Lord like I haven't spent time with you haven't like I was just about to like apologize like I just haven't been enough and I go outside and I sit on my porch and before I could even say a word I just felt the overwhelming presence of a loving father and I started to cry And I was like, you don't need me to say I'm sorry. You don't even want me to say I'm sorry. Like you don't even, because you're not sitting here thinking I'm not doing enough.

You just love me. You're just actually for me and you're kind. Yeah. And it was so, I can't even explain the feeling because it's like when God speaks to you. I was trying to explain this to Honey the other day because she was like, when you say God told you that, because she heard me talking about Kit's name story. Oh, yeah. And she was like, did you, like how do you hear?

hear him if he doesn't talk. And I said, well, he does speak, but instead of like hearing the way you naturally hear with your ears, when God speaks, he speaks to your heart. So it's more of a feeling you feel. And that's kind of how I would explain this moment. It wasn't, I didn't feel somebody hug me, but I felt like I was hugged. You know, like I felt like I was loved. And later that night, we have security cameras. And I said, Christian, can you like pull up our cameras and go back to when I walked outside. And it was so cool. We watched it back. It was as if I, like, it was so crazy looking because I walk outside and I sit down and then all of a sudden I'm like, just melt and just cry. And I was like, that was the moment. I felt so loved. And it was

just like the coolest thing. It was just the coolest experience. And so it's amazing to walk with God. It's truly a relationship. It's not, um, it is a relationship. It's a 24-7 thing. It's a father to a daughter and it is stunning. I want to ask lastly about how Pink Letters operates because I know there's sponsorships involved and I know girls are listening like, I want a pink letter or moms are listening and they want their daughters to have pink letters. Talk about how you get one, how the sponsorship works. I think it's a beautiful model too. Yeah. So it's quite special. It's in the way that the mom or the parents, parent or anyone in this girl's life sponsors them.

And I think it's significant because it's like you're choosing to sew into that girl, like almost like subconsciously through something practical. But then also I think it's allowing someone ahead of a girl to basically say, like I care about your well-being. I also care about I know. I see you. I think that's it. I see you.

So what happens is that you go to the website and you can sign up your girl. The website is pinkletters.uk. But it's like a global website. You can, anyone can go on it. And you can sign up a girl. And you just sign up one girl at a time. So if you've got sisters or siblings, just put them on separate signups. But it's $5 in the US.

It's £3.15 in the US. UK per month and that pays for the envelope and the paper postage mailing and basically from that the girl you sign up will get a letter every month until they turn 19 and so yeah you can you can sign up as many girls in your life as you want and there will be a letter at their doorstep that's so cool can you sign yourself up you can okay yeah yeah yeah you can awesome I love this so much so what what's the age bracket one more time so 11 to 18 you're allowed on so basically on the day they're 19 then you're a loud one it's like just I guess the teenage years that's really really really cool so all of you moms listening I know you're going to want to get this

for your daughters I think it's the most beautiful thing obviously you see who's behind it purest heart so pink letters dot UK you can sign your daughters up you can sign your daughters up you can sign your youth group up, whatever that looks like for y'all. I love your story, indie, and more than that, I love who you are. I think you're incredible. And whenever I met you, I was like, everyone in the world needs to know about this. And so if I can even do the small part and blasting this out to people, I'm grateful. But not even just that, just introducing them to another incredible influence.

I know you use your Instagram in such a cute way, too. I shouldn't say cute in a really beautiful way. cute seems like undercutting what you do but um her fashion is so amazing um so her Instagram is fashion and so cute you and your husband like your husband it's so funny because he's from florida but he's like the most British looking person I've ever seen I know I know I was like I had to go across the pond to find you yet you get less and less exotic as the days go by he sounds British now I'm like I could have found you down the street he looks like in like British movies like Notting Hill. Like he looks like he should be in that movie for some reason to me.

That's so funny. It's so funny. But y'all are so adorable. And then she also has her pink letters and serum as well that you can follow. But if there's any influencer worth being followed, it's indie. So go check her out. And thank you for coming all this way. I guess you didn't have to come from the UK. You came from Florida. But thanks for coming over here for the podcast. Such an honor. Thank you for having me. This is the best. Such a gift.