WHOA That's Good Podcast - Goals, Growth and When Its Okay to Fail | Sadie Robertson Huff & Korie Robertson

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Sadie and her mom, Korie, are kicking off the first episode of the year together with a real conversation about goals, fresh starts, and what they’re actually bringing into this next season—and what they’re leaving behind. Korie shares why goals still matter (yes, even if you don’t hit all of them) and why writing them down can be a game-changer. She opens up about how she reflects on past goals, resets when needed, and looks ahead without pressure to have it all figured out. They also talk honestly about failure — why the Robertson family isn’t afraid of it, and why it’s okay to pivot, pause, or even let go of dreams that no longer fit. Sadie shares her new life verse and word of the year, and together they unpack a question so many of us are asking: how do you know when it’s time to walk away… or when you’re meant to stay and stick it out? Plus, Sadie invites listeners to join her as she reads through the Bible this year—starting right now. This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey friends. Okay, treat this like a voice memo text from a friend because I'm literally voice memo and y'all from my car. We're adding this into the podcast because I kept saying that I'm doing the Bible in a year with the Bible project, but I'm actually doing the Bible in a year at the Bible recap with Tara Lee Cobble, which I actually said Terlea Lee Cobble, but I said the wrong name. And that was silly and I said it like a lot of time. So if that's distracting you, I'm so sorry. I actually have done a lot of the Bible project stuff, and I love it. But this year, as a goal, I'm going through the Bible in a year with Tara Lee Cobble for the Bible recap. So, sorry about that.

Hope you all love the episode. There's so much goodness in here. What is up, everybody? Happy New Year. This is so exciting. The first, well, that's good episode of 2026. I'm so thankful that you're here, whether this is your very first time to listen or you've been kicking alongside me for about. seven and a half years. Super thankful to step into a new year of podcasting. And today we're going to

have a lot of fun because we have everyone's favorite guests on the podcast. No offense to Christian. We have my mom. Welcome K-swag back to the podcast. I'm so honored to be here for the first episode of the new year. And also seven and a half years. That's amazing. Isn't that wild? I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I remember when you were in high school talking about things like this. podcast, blogs, and it was kind of like the start of all those things, like, you know, YouTube pages or whatever. And I remember saying, like, I think the people that succeed in that are the ones who just stay in it, who don't quit. It just don't quit. And look at you.

It's true. You didn't quit. You just stuck with it. You just kept going doing it week after week after week after week. And so many people have been blessed by it. And we've all been blessed by it and learned so much. So I'm super well done. Thank you.

It was cool. When we were in LA this past year at Dance with the Stars, we ran into Alona Marr and her sisters. And they just started a podcast. So I was like, oh, I saw y'all start a podcast. Congrats. And they're like, yeah, like it's awesome. And I said, I've been doing a podcast too.

And they were like, oh, what's it called? I was like, well, that's good. Oh, that's so cool. I check it out. And I said, may I just think podcasting is like the best, I think, especially in today's day and age, like where there's so much short form content. It's so great to just have conversations. with people. I learned so much from them. And they were like, well, when did you start yours? I was like,

oh, about seven and a half years ago. And she was like, what? Are you like the first podcast ever? I was like, no. But I was earlier on the now like the wave of. I feel like everybody has a podcast. That was definitely not the case. Seven and a half years ago. But I think you're right. Like there is something to like longevity. And it's really cool. So many new listeners are like, where do I start? Like do I start at the beginning? Like I do want to help categorize that for people. That's one of my goals this year to help categorize our podcast for new listeners because I don't necessarily think I'd say start from the beginning. We've grown a lot.

I've grown a lot. And like if you want the perspective of a, you know, 22-year-old then start at the beginning as I was navigating. No, but that's the thing. It was like you were learning. Yeah, and that's what the whole podcast was set up to be. It was just to get advice from people and learn from people. And I think that that's the best podcasters to me. Actually, we were talking about another podcaster the other day and you were saying how he didn't really say very much.

She just kind of like threw out a question and let other people talk. And I said, I think the best podcasters are those that are genuinely learning, genuinely curious, generally like want to hear from whoever you're sitting down with. And so I think that was what made it special. It's true. I've learned so much. I don't know where I would be without getting to sit in the seat and listen and learn so much. It's actually funny to think about that so much of my growth in life has happened while other people. people are listening. And sometimes learning on a podcast is a beautiful thing. Most of the time it's a

beautiful thing. But sometimes I do get stumped in it because I'll be just fully listening. And I'm like, oh, I'm interviewing. Like, because I am a podcast listener. So I'm listening to our guests. I'm just all in. I'm like thinking how it relates to my life and some things I want to implement after this conversation. And then I'm like, oh, my turn to talk. Okay, next question. But I think from the beginning, I used to have questions, you know, set out. And now I do a lot of studying, but I just know the kind of conversation I want to have, the overall direction I want to go when I'm searching for, but not necessarily as many, like, this is what I'm going to ask you.

Because I've learned, like, sometimes the conversation goes to places that you didn't expect, and when you're, like, trying to drive it and, like, trying to get it back to where you kind miss out on where maybe it was going to go, where it was going to lead. So I've learned a lot, and I'm thankful for it. I think people should go back and listen. And I think that's a great. I think we need to do that this year is categorized. it all so that way people can find. Like if you want to, if you want to find something that's

talking about anxiety or whatever or fear or, you know, what marriage or relationships or whatever, you can actually go find that because there is so much wisdom. Yes. There really is. It's crazy. And so many amazing guests. Our first guest is Bob Goff. Like that was super epic and so fun. I did not realize it. I know. And I used to only do like 20 minute long episodes and then at the end of the episode I would call you. And we'd remember it. It was the good and bad. advice segment and I'd be like that's hilarious someone said on Instagram this is good advice or bad advice and there's some whoa that's bad and there's some good and it was kind of a nod to like learning how to discern when something like sounds go but it might not be true um so there's some there's some

gems back in the day okay I forgot about that you were living in Nashville so you would call me and randomly like I didn't know when you were going to call and you were recording yeah so it's changed so much in the best way glad to have a studio now I used to like record wherever whenever I had my little microphone, my little, oh, what was it called? Now I can't remember what it was called. It was like a box. I had everything I needed. Mix, yes, mixed pre. Yeah, that was awesome. Mixed three. And I would take that everywhere. And it was, it's been such a fun journey. This today on this podcast, we're going to talk about a new year, new start, resolutions, word for the year. We're going to talk about what we've learned from last year, what we're taking

with us, what we're leaving behind. We have a lot of things to talk about. Do you have anything, mom, on just starting a new year? Why do we set goals if so often we don't keep them? Why should we set intention? Why is this kind of conversation important at the start of the year? Well, today, you really prompted me because of having this on my calendar to like think about this a lot and said this morning I woke up and it was just like so on my brain. And I pulled out like all my old. That is so funny that you did that. These are like my calendar books from the last like four years. Also, you're going to have to link that because those are cute. These are good ones. Actually, this is a really good one. I keep ordering this one. So anyway, one of the things that I was

thinking about in it is I've always loved the new year. I think I've always felt like it's important to set a goal for the year. Once like the word for the year became like a thing, I was like, oh, this is so fun, this is great. I think it's important to kind of like have a restart. I mean, you can always restart. You can restart midway through the year or whatever, but it kind of just sets your mind because you're starting a new year. Like, what are you leaving behind in the path? What past? What are you taking forward? All those things I think are great for a new year. And one of the things that I started doing probably five or six years ago, because I was never a really good, like, I love to set them, but, like, writing them down in a place that I could go back

and look and keep them and know whether I followed through with them and all that. I would write them on some random piece of paper or write them on whatever, then it would get thrown away or set aside or put in a box somewhere, and then I never went back to it. So several years ago, I started doing it actually in my yearly calendar and writing down. And so every year what I do is I'll write down my mission statement. So several years ago, I went to a guy Pete Richardson, who does this whole life planning. He's been on the podcast. Fantastic listen.

Right. He wanted to go listen to. You haven't heard that one. Yes. And so helps you kind of formulate your own personal mission statement. So if you don't have that, that's something that you can do. And so each year I kind of like rewrite that. I write down.

I have a little things of like what I love. And it's just like what I love. And it's just like notes about what I love. I love in a deeper sense or what I love, like, I love to be creative and build, like, I love to build. Because you do be loving chapsed. I do, I love my aqua form. But, um, it's us.

But anyway, I do, so I write things like that or then I write things like life, maybe, maybe we'll do this one day in life. It's just like these, these things that I write every year. And every year, I just move them to the next. I didn't even know you did that. You didn't know I did that. I literally didn't know you did that. So here it is.

Whoa. So each year I rewrite this in my next calendar. And then I can assess. I can be like, okay, did I actually do that this year? Did I live that? What are the things that I can check off? I'm like, oh, I did that life dream. I can check that off.

I'm inspired. Or whatever. Then I'll write like a mission statement for like my work and for my business for the next year. So each year I just kind of like a lot of it is just recopying, recopying whatever. right the year before. And then I start, then I go into kind of goals for that year. So it's like, what's my word for the year?

What are some specific goals that I can set? And the goal thing is like, you don't always hit all of them. Yeah. It's an intention. Yeah. And I think that is where people get like tripped up. It's like they're like, oh, actually this, I read this. Most people quit their goals by January 8th.

Oof. No, that's it all. Oof. Eight days. You're only eight days in and you're already quitting. So it's like, don't set it like, oh, I quit it and I don't go back. It's just an intention. It's just like an idea of like what you want to do.

There's one that I kind of move every year and it's learning, learn a song on the piano. And I still haven't done it. But it's there. It's there. And I'm moving it to this year. And maybe this will be the year that I do that. Great. Okay, friends, growing up in Louisiana, seafood is just a part of who we are.

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Every time I do like, ask me anything, people are like, did you ever run the mile? Did you ever do the pull-up? And I'm like, well, no, I had three kids in between the time I said that. However, what I did do, though, whenever I set out that goal to do that pull-up, I was like, this year I'm doing one pull-up, still can't do a pull-up. Still have never done a pull-up in my life. still would love to do a pull-up one day in life. But what I did do is I started working out a lot more that year. And I literally got a trainer.

I worked all those muscles learned how to do a pull-up. And I never was able to do it. But I got so much stronger. And that's the intention. You know, it's not about doing the pull-up. You know, it's about getting stronger. Yes. And so maybe one day I will.

Remember the year that my goal was to stretch every day? That was last year. Is that last year? That was last year. Well, I didn't do it. And Christian. In London, that was February. So we were one month into the year last year.

And already. And you were struggling to stretch every day. And Christian was like, he was being so good trying to help me and like remind me. And I still didn't do it. He's the best goal setter and sticking to it person. I know. Yeah. Like if he says he's going to do it, he's doing it.

He's so disciplined. Yeah. And it's very inspiring. Every year, I almost have discipline. for my word and then I'm like, no, I really don't want it. I'm disciplined for my word and then I back out. Every year I think I probably should choose discipline for my word because that's the thing that I'm the least good at.

Oh, that's funny. And then every year I'm like, but yeah, I don't really want to do that. Okay. Speaking to that, though, I think this is another like concept to why these conversations are important is that they do provide accountability. Like when you set it down, you set an attention, it makes you accountable. And that's why you don't want to choose discipline for your word because then you'd be accountable to following it. Exactly.

And so there's like beauty in that. And then there's also so much challenge in that. And so I think that's why some people are like, well, I don't want to do it because then if I say I'm going to do it and I don't do it, then I failed. Or I would be embarrassed. And I think you got to like stop that way of thinking and just say it's not a fail if you don't do it. It's not embarrassing. Like this is your challenge to yourself to become better. and if people start laughing, it's like the man in the arena, like, hey, you get in the arena,

and then you can talk. That's so good. One thing I think our family is good at is failure. I think we're okay with it. Like, we're okay with, like, having an idea and it not happening. And we just kind of move on, and I think that's a positive in a way, you know, it's not because we can take a risk and try something and say, like, okay, this year I'm going to try this. And I don't do it.

I'm like, okay, I'll move it to next year. maybe I will next year, or maybe it was not a good idea in the first place, you know. Speaking of, let's give a real life example. So, Dad, you know, he's known as Willie Robertson, Boss Ha. He's known as a successful businessman. He has literally traveled to several schools and taught business classes. He is a good businessman. But let's go back to Dad making a nine on the ACT.

He struggled through college and majored in physical education. doesn't do anything like that. Right. How many other jobs did he think he was going to be a professional bowler? Oh my gosh. Through our 20s, I cannot tell you the amount of ideas that he had or the things that he was going to do. He wanted to be a DJ at one point. He had an idea to like travel and like do this DJ.

I don't even know. Professional bowler, professional scribble player, personal golfer. He tried to get on the basketball team in college. And the coach was like, no. So yeah, he tries a lot of. things. And he still does stuff like that. And so does. He still tries so many things, which I think is so good. Like each year, he's not just saying, oh, I've reached success and that's it. It's like, no, there's so much that I had in me that I want to try and a lot of those things fail, but some

hit. And so it's not, you're not a failure whenever certain things didn't work out the way that you thought it was good to go. You learn something from it. And now he's really good at bowling. He's really good at Scrabble. He's really good at all these things he thought he would be like a professional end. Now he has skill sets for. So when you set something out for the new year, that might not be the thing you end up with, but you have skills in that direction. Yeah. And that's something to be proud of. That's good, which also takes me back to our first conversation about, like, not quitting in your podcast.

So there are things that it's like there's value in staying and just continuing and just not quitting. But it doesn't mean that like it has to all reach a certain success within one year's time. It's like, okay, in 2026, if I don't do this, it can be, it's an intention. setting, you stick with something that you love and that you're passionate about and just keep going, keep going, keep going. It's great. Maybe years, we always talk about for like, Duk Dynasty happened 40 years after Phil invented the Duk Hall.

Yeah. And there was a ton of years that it, most people would have quit. I mean, most people. And maybe even should have quit. Yeah. To be like, you're not even able to support your family doing this. You should go quit and just get a job or whatever. And so I think that it's good.

It doesn't mean that you're failing at something if it just hasn't come to be yet. Yeah. When did you start doing these calendars? I think like 2019, I mean, is when I started writing them, actually writing my actual intention out. I think it was probably after I saw Pete, which I'm trying to remember what year that was, that I started actually kind of like writing my mission statement down and writing down specific goals. I think writing down goals are really important. Also, notes on your phone are great.

I mean, I went back and saw a note on my phone about some things that I had just prayed about and set intention for years and years ago that I found recently. And I'm like, whoa, that all happened. That all came to the fruition. Like, we actually, actually accomplished that goal that I had set. And I didn't even kind of like, almost didn't even realize I had set it as a goal. it was just something that I kind of dreamed about or wanted. And then I was like, oh, I didn't realize I wrote that down. Yeah.

So I do think writing it down. And like I said, doing it this way for me has been helpful because it's in my, I look at my calendar essentially every day. I know a lot of people just do digital calendars now. But I think there's value in having a calendar like this. Now you can look back and read it. I actually think the digital calendar hurt us maybe whenever we started just relying on that because you can't see your month as a whole, your week as a whole. You can't see kind of your life as more of a whole.

You're only seeing the day. More like the day, yeah, which maybe there's value in that because only worry about today. But also, I think seeing kind of things as a whole, like your life as a whole, your year as a whole is helpful in some ways. It's good. I like it. I'm inspired. I think I'm going to get myself one. Okay, what are some of your goals for 2026, real time?

Well, this is real time because I haven't really totally set them. Usually I will say, I think I take January to kind of do a little like prayer and fasting and time. And so I haven't set them all, but this morning it got me like really getting serious about it since we were having this talk. And the word that keeps coming to my mind for this year is growth. So you think that's your word for the year? I be my word for the year. Disciplines getting moved to 2027. Growth is this year. I saw J.P. Pekluda. He put on one of his things. He was like suggested word for the year and it had like three and one of them was discipline. I was like, nope. I didn't see it. It's not a sign.

Growth is one that just keeps coming to mine, which I told dad and he was like, mine's going to be tumor. And I was like, why? Why? Why you ruin my word by saying that. Now it makes me think of that. But anyway, he's nuts. He had another, he's like, or gorder or so. He just started saying like other growth. Thinking of a growth on your body. But he's so bad. But that's one that I'm thinking of.

Sometimes I'll try to put like a verse to go with it. And so this morning I read a verse I thought was like, oh. I got my Bible if you know where it is. Okay, it's John 15. Okay, do you. Starting at 4. And so here's what's interesting about this. When I first read this first, this morning, I thought, oh, maybe that's going to be my word.

And then as I... Abide? Well, yes. But actually in NIV is Remain. So Remain or Abide. So then I'm like, oh, maybe it's going to be Remain. You're going to read it in your transition? I'll read it in mine.

But then as you read, listen for how growth comes in. Growth comes in when you remain with God. Remain in me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself. It must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine, you are the branches. If you remain in me and I and you, you will bear much fruit.

Apart from me, you can do nothing. nothing. So I was thinking about how like, okay, well, this is a, this is a message of growth, a garden, a tree that is growing. And it's saying, if you remain in God, you'll bear fruit. You'll grow. You'll grow fruit if you remain in God. By remaining in Him, that is how you grow. That's good. Which I was like, whoa, that's really cool because I was like, okay. So I don't know. It's remain by, grow. I don't know. But I was just thinking about how. how like in God's economy, it's the opposite. Like remaining in him is how you bear fruit.

That's good. Where in another, in the world's view, it's like growth is like change and do this and go and get after it and all that. In God's economy, remaining is how you grow and how you bear fruit. All right, let's be honest. Buying clothes for the guys in our lives can be such a gamble. You want something that he's actually going to wear instead of something that ends up in the back of the drawer, and that is exactly why I love Pancho outdoors. Whether it's your dad's

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heard about them please let them know that whoa that's good set you there christin kane said something a passion this year that was like that is so good it was i don't remember exactly how she said it but she essentially said um being marked by god will always be greater than being marketed by man. And she was basically saying, if you're marked by God, it will just come to you. Like, the right thing will come to you. The thing will come out of you. But what we do is we freak out about like marketing ourselves. And we got to get out. We got to do do do. And then like it'll be a success or then it'll get out into the world. But she's like, go read the Bible. Like no one was marketing themselves. Like they were marked by God. I was like, that is so good, which speaks to

that like just remaining, abiding. Yeah. Kind of speaks to that verse that we talk about with Pebble Phil always said, like, you know, you will gain the respect to the outside world if you're just working with your hands. Living a quiet life. Like, it's the opposite of what I think. On that note, too, this is a verse that I thought, this is going to start to be a life verse for me. So it's 2 Corinthians 12. And this is a verse that most of us know the idea of, well, I'm going to read more of the passage, but the verse that most people know, my grace is to say, efficient for you. My power is made perfect and weakness. So this is a pretty popular verse. And then it gets down to for when I am weak, then. Okay, before I say what I'm about to say, what do you think this verse says? For when I am weak, then I am strong. He is made strong in me. Okay. So this is the funny thing. Most of us think that verse says, for when I am weak, then he is strong. That's like how we remember that verse. That's like what we talk about. That's what we're write about, but it actually says, for when I am weak, then I am strong. So Paul wrote this, and he was,

he didn't say for a when I'm week, he is strong, although that is true. He said, for when I am weak, then I am strong. I was thinking, I was like, first I thought I am strong. And then I thought, well, maybe, no, it's talking about God is strong. But it's actually saying you are strong. Oh, wow. When you're weak, you're strong. And so he breaks this down. And I love this so much. He says, on behalf of this man, I will boast, but on my own behalf, I would not boast except for my weakness. Though if I should wish to boast, I would not be a fool for I would be speaking the truth, but I refrain from it so that no one thinks more of me than he sees in me or hears from me. So to keep me from becoming conceited, because of the surpassing greatness of the revelation,

a thorn was given to me in my flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me to keep me. from becoming conceited. And he says, three times I pleaded with the Lord that he would take this away from me. But he said to me, and then this is in red letters, which is interesting because this isn't like the Gospels. So this is like Jesus saying this to Paul. My grace is sufficient for you.

My power is made perfect in your weakness. Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly in my weakness so that the power of God may rest on me. For the sake of Christ, then I am content with weakness, insults, hardships, persecution, and calamities. for when I'm weak, then I'm strong. Like, that is a complete opposite way of looking at life. Like, exactly.

I'm not going to become conceded. Right. And some of these things, and I started thinking about this, even with the idea of, like, insecurity, because some of these things you think, like, by this point, I'm like, I should not be insecure. Like, I should be, like, so confident, rooting God.

By this point, I should not have anxiety. Like, it's kind of like the thorn in your flesh. You're like, why do I still have this? God, I've asked you to take this away, like, so many times. But I started thinking about, what if that isn't like those things in you is not saying like you have a problem in your faith is actually saying like this is your opportunity for faith so like your insecurity isn't like a problem that a faith problem it's not like you have a lack of faith that's your opportunity for faith

yeah it's like I'm going to start looking at it like that this year like whenever I have hard things or insecurities or overthinking moments like I'm not going to like shame myself and go like oh why don't have enough faith to just overcome this but like this is actually an opportunity for me to have faith that God, like when I feel this week, I'm actually at my strongest state because I am dependent on you. Yeah. Isn't that cool? That's so good.

And it's so true. If you look about, you know, looking back, thinking as you were saying that on my life, it is those times when I'm like the most dependent on God. Yeah. When I'm the, I feel the weakest. Yeah. But it's the time that I know that like I'm most dependent on him. My faith is the strongest.

You're the strongest. Yeah. And that's cool. And that's cool. I love that. And I love you and that he said, like this is to keep me from becoming conceited. Like I keep asking.

He's like, no, like this is, this is where I have you. This is like you're supposed to feel that, you know, which is kind of a crazy way of thinking about it. And that his grace is sufficient for us. His power is made perfect.

I love that so much. I've heard it a million times. I've read it. I've quoted it. But I don't know. I guess I've dwelt on it more lately. Yeah. I thought, well,

there's a lot of richness to that. Yeah. a challenge to actually think about things oppositely than you do. I actually think my word for this year and it's kind of like you. I'm pondering. I think this is my word for the year, but I haven't attached to scripture to it.

Although this scripture is amazing and this is going to be something I think about this year, it doesn't necessarily go exactly with my word, but the word renew. And I'm going to read the definition of renew, not that we don't know what it means, but it's cool to read definitions. I did that this morning too.

Like that's like I know what this means. I'm going to read it again. Because it pulls out like just the gravity of it more. So first, resume after an interruption. And not like this, these were the best interruptions of my life. But I have been having children for years. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, I'm like resuming back into life not being pregnant or

postpartum. Yeah. So that's kind of cool. And then to, okay, so then it says to give fresh life or strength to revive, to extend for a further period the validity of, or to replace something that is broken or worn out. And I think like all three of those go with so much that I really need to apply to my life. I think that there are some things when you go through life and you do go through a time of like a time period that changes you of like having. children and like coming back to you and like you're not who used to be you are a new person but you have these old habits and some are good and some are bad and some you need to take with you and

some you need a ditch um i think i'm kind of like processing that and feeling that um and one of the things last year when i think about last year and this this kind of going into like what do you leave behind and what are you taken with you which will i'll ask you that next but something that I am taking with me that I did this past year. And this is going to sound interesting because it kind of goes against what we were just saying is that I was willing to like change things that needed to change and like in big ways.

Like our life changed a lot last year. And I'm not going to go into all the details on this podcast. But like we made we made a lot of moves. Like we switched things that we just needed to switch. We moved places we need to move. Yeah. We just changed some things. And I think for a long time, the reason I stayed at some of those things that it ended up leaving was because of this whole message of like, you got to say planted.

Because when you're planted, then like that's how, you know, that's how you begin to thrive and that's where the harvest comes. And so many messages in the church is like the importance of being planted. And I so didn't want to be the person that was like not planted or not committed because I know there's value in that. But last year, there were just some things that kind of rose to the surface that I, Christian, and I both started feeling we need to make a move. Yeah. And I didn't realize how much I, like, how afraid I was that people were going to think, like, oh, you're wishy-washy.

Like, oh, you just gave up because it was hard. And it wasn't that those things were hard. It was like there was a lack of peace there. There was just something we knew for our family, like, we needed to make a shift. And I think there's, like, a lot of spiritual maturity. and like knowing when it is time to make a move and like growing and discern it when it's like, okay, we need to make this move

because this is going to be the best decision for our family right now, even though like maybe nobody else gets that and maybe no one else understands that and that's okay, but this is what we need to do for us and for our kids. And I let back of the year and I'm like, I'm proud of us for making those moves

because now on this side of it, I'm like, that was the best decision. Like that was the best decision. And so I do think even a renewal and like, okay, there's some change. But like now what does that look like for us this year? You know, stay like now sewing some seeds in this new space that we're in. And so it's kind of hard to be vague.

I always say on a podcast, like there's a difference in vulnerability and transparency. And like you're not going to be super vulnerable with, you know, 100,000 people who listen to this. But transparency is helpful. Yeah. And I do think that in this year I have learned that there is a time. there's sometimes a time to leave. And there is a lot of, that is a hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to leave when you actually are used to like the value of staying.

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you were called to that you you were staying in you're staying faithful in and then other things can't they are going to come and go and that is part of life and you know the longer you live the more you see is like okay yeah that was there for this time period in my life and it was great then and there's nothing there's i can go forward in gratefulness for what that was but also i can move onto something new because that renewal like god is doing a new thing yeah and us and so i think that I think that there's wisdom in that. It's not that you're not staying. You have to stay at everything you've ever done. I mean, if you stayed at everything you've ever done, then you would, where would I be? You would never grow. You would never change, you know. And so true. I think that that's really,

that's really wise. I remember when I was probably around your age, I felt like God gave me kind of like this vision that for this. And I've always remembered it and thought about it. Because I think because I did see people that seemed really stuck. Like they weren't happy in their job. They weren't happy with where they were. They weren't happy with all these things. And they complained about it a lot. And they just like, but they just didn't do anything about it, you know?

And I feel like God gave me this vision of just being like stuck on the side of the road in a trench. It's just like people can just get stuck in a ditch and they just don't get themselves out. You know, and it was just this visual for me of like, okay, when I get stuck in a ditch, I just want to like figure out how to get out of it, you know, do something different. Yeah. Call someone to help, you know, get a, call in a tow truck. Like, do something to get out of it rather than just staying stuck in this like rut. And sometimes it's like you're like stuck in a actual ditch.

And sometimes it's like a rut that you're just like, you know what a rut is? It's like you just kind of get stuck going that direction and you can't like pull it back. And so it was just this visual for me really in my 20s of like, okay, I got, I don't ever want to be like stuck in a rut that I'm just getting pulled in one direction that I don't even realize it. I don't want to be in a ditch and I'm just like complaining about it, but I'm still in this ditch. You know, like I want to be able to make change and create change and do something different whenever. That's good. Whenever I think a rut is so so applicable to probably what most people feel in their 20s because you start off your 20s thinking you have a clear path for like, what the next 10 years is going to look like,

but then life doesn't ever go the way that you kind of think it's going to go. So you do start veering. And some of that is good and some of that is bad. Like there are things that I picked up along the way that are great. And there are some of that is like, oh, that's not so great, you know, that I want to kind of steer back in the right direction. And I think that's really good to, like, be aware of that. And I think, too, the changes that we made last year,

one of the things I think I'm trying to do well. And it's interesting because like two people said this to me, passionately spoke this over me. They're like, you're in a season change. And they were like just encouraging that that's a good thing. And that's a natural thing. And just do your best to do that well because season changes are hard. Like they can be kind of harsh sometimes.

You know, I feel like even when you think about natural seasons, when it shifts, like you get allergies. Like, yeah, it's cold. It, like, there are changes, and some of it's really good and it's beautiful, and then some of it brings some hard things. And everything that we walked through last year that was changed was even though it was the right decision, it was still hard. It came with hard conversations, uncomfortability, walking into new things that felt like, ah, we're here again. Like, we feel like a freshman all over again. Yeah.

Someone says that, like, every four years you feel like a freshman again because that's life. and it's like, oh, that's actually true. We've been changed to your schedule. Changes to your schedule. Our schedule changed completely. Yeah. Like we had no, like, schedule, like up until this year. Then we're like, okay, we got, like, actually live by a legit schedule.

So that was new for us. Just because our family, we had been traveling for so long and doing all these things that required, like, different schedules. This year we got a little bit more, a little more scheduled. But all of that was a little bit hard and uncomfortable and different. But that didn't mean it was the wrong decision. And I think that's where, like, people, like, turn back because they're like, oh, this is hard. Okay, maybe I'll just go back to what it was.

It's like, no, if you know you're supposed to change, if you know you're supposed to make a move, even if it's hard, even if it's uncomfortable, just knowing, like, there's a peace in knowing you're following God, you know, there's an assurance and a confidence and knowing I'm following God. And so there was never a time where Christian never were like, oh, okay, we should have stayed because this is hard. It was like, no, every time it was like, this is the uncomfortable part, but this is where we need to be. And now we're a few months out, not even years out, months out, and we're going, this is a right call. This is so good. Look at what unfolded from making those moves this past year, which is super helpful.

That reminds me of that when the Israelites, when they just left Egypt and there's that point where they want to go back. That story's crazy. I love this story. This is one of my favorite parts of scripture. It's like this point where they're just like they want to go back to slavery because it's hard. It's different. It's scary. They're not, they're like, wait, but back there, at least we had something, there was some comfort in what you know, I guess.

And so they're just complaining and complaining about it. And then God actually says to them, like, stop talking, like stop talking and keep going. Like that is literally what he says. Like, stop talking, keep going. And I just love that so much because it's like, we all were just like, sometimes we just keep talking to God about our complaints. And he's like, nope, just keep going. I got something better for you. Just keep going.

And me like, stop talking. Stop talking. In the most loving way. Stop talking. Exactly. It's so true because then you look back and you're like, yeah, you really did have a plan. So that was great. Thank you.

Yeah, exactly. Sorry about all the doubt. To mess it up. Yeah. Sorry about the doubt. Hey, when I'm weak, I'm strong. Yep. That's good.

Yeah, so that's something that I am taking with me from my share. I think leaving behind, a lot of times when you take with you kind of leave behind, the opposite thing you take with you. But kind of that like passivity of like just staying, just being like, you know, not, like I want to be willing to go where God's get is psycho and willing to have hard conversations. And I think even to this past year I realized like even our friends, like through our friend group, we went through like a lot of really hard things. And really deeply hard things.

And I just like we all just kept showing up for each other. and in like the really, really raw moments where it was like, you'd be driving over there and thinking, I don't know what I'm going to say. Yeah. This is going to be hard. Or this, what if I, whatever, like, you're having all those thoughts. Like, what if I said the wrong thing?

This is going to be awkward. It's hard. Like, where do we sit in the attention? And I'm so thankful that we showed up for each other the way we did because now we're at the, like, walking into a new year. And one of the things we've said about our friend group is like, we are stronger than ever. And we have built a foundation over in our early 20s.

like not realizing what we were going to walk through in the later 20s when you just get to more like real life hard things. Yeah. That we're like from the rest, like from this point on, like it's not getting easier. Like we're going to keep going through hard things the rest of our life. Yeah. And I'm so thankful for the foundation we have built to like actually be able to walk through hard things together. And I've been so impressed by like our friend group walking through it the way that we have

because we didn't like shy away from it. We didn't grow apart because of it. We didn't, like, we ran into the hard things. And I think all year, it was like a year of, like, doing the hard thing and confronting hard things. And I'm thankful we did. It was always worth it, even though it was hard. Absolutely.

Yeah. You have a great friend group. That's awesome. A lot of years foundation. What were you pulling up? I was thinking about, well, I was pulling up two things. I remembered that I had pulled up also remain and how it that means. And it says to continue in the same state or condition, which, um,

It's was, I was just thinking about it's not like remaining in this one place necessarily, the same state or condition, which is with God, like within that state. And so that's why I, part of what I loved about that word when I looked at it this morning. But then, then growth can, could be the opposite of that, but just that kind of that idea. Then the other thing to go back, I was, when you were talking about renewal, I was thinking about how like as women, which is most, I guess most, most, women are listening to this podcast, but men listen to you. So, I mean, this relates to you as well, or maybe disregard. But it's like we are kind of in a, just our bodies are naturally, like, in a constant state of renewal. It is so true. Literally, like, hormonally and having babies and all the things, it's like your body is kind of like months a month. Honestly, like, you're in a kind of a constant state of renewal. And so I think that is kind of a beautiful thing that God gave us as women of like, we know renewal and what that looks like and what that looks like. that feels like. And it's a challenge. It's not like not always easy. Like there's

there's hard things that come with that. But also there's like so much beauty that comes with that too. Yep. It is so true. This year at passion, I said, oh, passion's looking a little different at 28 and I did at 22. I'm pumping every three hours. I came home. I was like, I'm proud of what the Lord did through me on stage, but I'm also really proud of the 55 ounces I'm carrying home for a kit to eat. Your body's making new. Your body's in renewal. Literally, every three hours. Like you're making new milk every three hours. It's crazy.

And it's hard, but it's so good. It's so good. I love that. That's a really good perspective. Any resolutions for this year? Yes. I was literally about to ask you that.

Look. You have to go first. Okay. I, this is accountable. Y'all hold me to it, although I'm scared of y'all, but please do. The Bible project by Terry Lee Cobble.

She was on the podcast a couple years ago. I think a couple years ago. And I never did it. And I would told everybody to do it. And then I didn't do it. So this is me saying, this is my year to do it. I am on the day that I should be on. But I kind of cheated because I started early.

I started at the end of December and started reading it. And then it was actually funny today. I was like, oh, no, I missed a couple days. But I'm actually on the day I should be now. Oh, good. That was a little pre-press. You can officially say here that you're on the day. I'm with everybody on the Bible project, and I'm super excited about that because I can't think of the last time I, like, read through the Bible.

I don't even know. I don't know that there has been a time that I have read through, start, like, on a plan like this and actually, like, finished it. I know I have read through the Bible at different times, like reading a book, here, a book there, but never, like, consistently like this. So I'm super excited for that. Now, simultaneous to that, which I'm really excited about, I'm going to be reading the storybook Bible. to Honey and Haven every night. Sweet. And so that's my goal to finish the storybook Bible with them this year

and then to finish my own Bible project this year. And I'm really excited about seeing like each day the difference in what I'm getting fed and what they're getting fed because it's the same. But you know, Jesus says, like unless you have faith like a child. So it's kind of nice to like have a little bit of a deep dive with Terri Lee, but then having like this beautiful childhood perspective at the end of the day. So that's my, that's my Bible reading.

goal, which that's going to be awesome. And then my other one is, okay, I do want to start working out again. I don't have any goal other than to just do it. Like, yeah, because currently I'm at nothing. So this, that's going to be a big jump from here to there. Um, let me, what I'm on is to get strong. I was going with, if I was going with like growth, I was going with the G words to try to. So I was like, okay, get strong. Like, what is that, how am I going to do it? How that looks? I don't know. but I'm going to get strong this year. Yes.

Because I actually feel like, I, just with three kids, like I feel in shape because I'm chasing them and that kind of stuff. But I also want to set aside time to actually work out because I love the way I feel whenever I do. Like it's so good for my mind, mentally, all that kind of stuff. And at this point, again, Renewal, I have no excuse. Like, I'm not pregnant. I'm not like, I mean, I'm kind of postpart in five months,

but like it's time. It's time to go. And then my last one, so I only have, you know, these four. and these are what I'm going to stick to is wake up earlier than I need to wake up because I'm such like I've always been like this. Like my team knows this about me. I'm not going to be early. They're going to laugh at this now because now I am late.

But back in the day, I was never, I was never late. I'm always right on time because I schedule myself like exactly to the time I need to be places. If I have to like, you know, get up, I'm not going to like give wiggle room. I'm getting up when I need to get up knowing like it'll take me this long to get ready. Yeah. But what I realize now becoming a mom is that like you set the tone, you know, you set the tone of the day. And if I'm late, everybody's late. If I'm rushed, everybody's rushed.

Because I got to get ready so that then I can get everybody else ready and going. And so Sundays, if I sleep in, then, like, church is just, it's so chaotic in the morning because then everybody's in a rush. Like, I know I set the tone. So this morning was my first morning to really do it. And I got up, like, way earlier than I needed to. And it was so nice because I got my Bible project done. I had to feed kit earlier, which was great because she woke up with me. That was just a little godsend.

You had to have my cup of coffee, make honey's lunch. Like I got to do so much stuff this morning. And then when Christian saw me, he goes, how do you already have like your hair and makeup done? I said, I already showered. I'm ready for the day. And it was like such a different tone to get salon. So I'm going to wake up earlier than I have to. That's good.

That's a really good one. And that's a hard one because, you know, I've never been the morning person, the morning mom. I wish I were more of a morning mom. I would have been a better mom, I think, if I had been a more of a morning mom. You're a great mom. Thank you. I'll take that. But yeah, actually, that is, that's a good one.

I feel like I might take some of yours. Okay, take us. Let's do it. Let's do it. Because, so this is just a funny aside about getting up in the morning. So the other day, now I get up earlier than I used to. I was going to say, you've kind of been doing that. I do.

I like to get up now. I used to sleep late, but now I like to get up. but my time is more like 7 to 7.30. If I wake up before that, I just won't get up. And I'm like, why do I just not just like get myself up earlier than that? Because then I'll have more time, which I would love. But the other morning I was, I guess it was the day after New Year's or whatever. And I remember I was like laying in bed and I kept waking up.

And then it's like my brain, it's that whole like, do I need to wake up? No, I don't really need to wake up. Yeah. Oh, that is me. And it's just like a waste. I'm way too nice to myself too. Me too. You had a long day as soon.

You should just keep sleeping. Yeah. There's nothing else you need to be doing right now. Why don't you just stay in the bed? It's like your brain is like... Gersh and always says. He's like, I wish I was as nice to myself as you are to yourself. I was like, man, it's been a rough way.

I'm really nice to myself, especially about sleep. I'm like, sleep, you really need sleep. I know. Rest is important. I am definitely. This morning, it was funny. My alarm went off and I was like, well, I actually did set my... Like, I was, you know, when you sat in alarm, like, this is not the one I'm going to wake up to you.

Like, I'm going to wake up on this one. Although, I know research has told you that's a terrible idea, yet I continue to do it. I kind of like it. I'm like, I'm thinking about the five and I'll wake up. Yeah, it gives you, you're like, it also gives you that little treat. Like, oh, I get to say 10 more minutes. So, so alarm. And it was like 515, it goes off.

And I'm like, okay, that wasn't even the one I was going to wake up on. And then I was sleeping. I was going to sleep until 5.30. Then Kate wakes up at 520. And I was stoked. It was like, I later jumped out of bed. I was like, yes. I was like, she got on time with me.

Like, I couldn't believe she woke up at that time. And I was like, man, Kit, if we could get in sync, if you were my alarm, that'd be way better and then waking up to this alarm. But who knows? I think that was just a treat for the first day doing it. But anyways, do you have any more that you've written down? Life with babies is to get used to whatever they're doing, they change it. Yeah.

Well, so I hadn't like done my real specific goals yet, but I do want to learn one. song on the piano this year. And I'm going to play it at our Christmas talent show. Oh, that's a great accountability. So here we go. I told Will, I want him to sing. Like, I'm going to learn a song. And then Will's going to sing.

It's perfect. And then we're going to do it for the talent show. So, okay, I got to do that one. So one of the things, well, I want to play more tennis this year. I have to do that. I'll be with you on that. Yeah. But I did write, get strong.

So I was going through these like, G's under the category. Like, get stronger. I want to, like, actually. Okay, Pastor, with your G's. I know, it's doing some of those Gs. How did piano go with G? It didn't. That's why I said I haven't gotten it all together yet.

It hasn't all come together yet. Also, I want to go to the River House more because so we have a space right about how we're feeling Kate Live that is just like peace and it's fun. And we have an old time of record player and you just play that. DVD player. There's no like Netflix. Old school time. sit on a porch, and I need to do more of that this year. So those are some just kind of like fun things, but obviously Bible project, that's a...

I'm still trying to figure out where another G was. I'm not saying my G's yet because I... Here's what I write for G's. Get strong. Grow a garden. I want to do a garden. Grow my heart. You say grow my heart?

No, Grandma hard, grandma hard. Grandma hard. I write Grandma hard. You're a grandma hard. You're a growing a garden. I know. See? I'm all hard.

I love that. Okay, those are my G's that I've written so far. But I haven't like come to more. I just had to call you out and I said, I'm going with cheese, learn the piano, grow strong, and go to the river house. I was like, is it go to the river house? Was that the G? Well, this was when I was using growth. Then I got on Remain.

Then I was like, okay, I don't know for sure. My word. We're going to switch it to ours. Exactly. I love it. I did write grandma hard because I want to like go hard in the grandma paint this year. I want to go hard in the grandma paint this year. That's living where you're at in the season.

I love that. I also have some work goals do, but you know, that's a whole other thing. I want to write a book this year. You are writing a book this year. I'm already in that. I'm doing that too. We're doing that together. We have like a whole new entertainment thing that we're launching this year.

That's very exciting. I want to help grow Duck Commander this year. And that's, there's a lot of exciting things happening there. So I have a whole new, like, project that I'm working on that we're going to announce. It's going to come back on the podcast to talk about. I think you're always your word. I have some really good projects that are happening, like, business-wise to this year that I'm really excited about. Awesome.

I actually, Renew really is my word because we're going on tour in February for L-O-W. We haven't gone on tour a tour since I got married because I need to take a pause because life was happening. And I'm writing a book, but this is the first time I'm not doing it with a ghost writer, co-writer. So this is totally new. Like I'm coming back in, but I'm doing this totally differently. And it is very hard and very challenging. I do have someone helping me now who's like helping me organize my thoughts, book map. And I'm so blessed by her.

She's amazing. Definitely takes a team even though I'm trying to do the words. But hard. And then let's see, I'm doing, I feel like I'm doing a lot of things similarly to that I did in the past. Like I'm having another opportunity to do them. Yeah, that's good. Haven't announced it yet. I have two things I'm doing in May that I did back in the day that I'm getting to come in at a new spot in my life at.

So that's super cool. So just really excited to step into this year and be renewed and what God has for me. So this was great. I'm inspired. I'm pumped about this year. I'm excited. It's going to be a great year. Grandma hard.

Come on. Also, if anybody wants to do these with me, please feel free to do it. Like I said, I'm going through the Bible Project. All right. I'm thinking about Bible Project. It's really, really, really good. And then I'm reading the storybook Bible. So if anybody wants to get that, I just literally prime that to my house because Donna Stewart,

I asked Donna and Ben, like, how did y'all start introducing the Bible to your kids? And I told them, like, you know, we watch Minow and watch those shows. And then we go to church, we talk about the Bible. But, like, I don't know how to read the Bible to them with it being, like, understandable. I guess. There are parts that I read, but like as a whole. And they were like, storybook Bible. And then JP was sitting beside us. He was like, you don't do storebook Bible? The storybook Bible is like, what you do? I was like, oh, well, now I do. And so if y'all are mom out there wanting to read to your kids, that is awesome. I'm going to work out. I have no other

details, but I'm going to do that. That's my G. I'm going to get strong. Get strong. And then I'm going to plan to wake up, not plan. I'm going to wake up earlier than I need to. So those are mine. If anyone wants to join. We're very good. And we're going to play tennis. We're going to play more tennis. I'm not going to grow a garden, but I will benefit hopefully from some of the things that you grow. I'm going to get back in the garden this year.

Thanks, Mom. Well, here's the 2026. Let's going strong with a lot of intention and see what God's going to do. And what I do encourage you, final send-up, write it down because you'll be amazed. Next year, you're used to come what God did in you this year. If you don't have, you know, physical paper to write it down on, and you're like, oh, I need to get that. I need to get that. Don't wait for that. Go ahead and write it in your notes right now so that you're accountable to it because I always do that. I'm like, oh, I'm going to write it later. And then I don't. And so I'm super thankful for whenever I do dry it down in my notes on my phone. So do that now as a little accountability to yourself and let's full send it people.