WHOA That's Good Podcast - How Candace Cameron Bure Tackles Business, Fitness, Motherhood & Faith in Hollywood

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

Candace Cameron Bure joins Korie Robertson to share an honest, intimate look at her struggles and joys as a wife, mom, actress, producer, director, entrepreneur, author, and Christian woman in the entertainment industry. Korie reveals how they first met and why Sadie might have skipped "Dancing with the Stars" if not for a phone call with Candace. Then, Candace talks about how she makes business decisions without compromising her beliefs, what motivates her to speak boldly about her faith, how she approaches the entertainment industry as a mission field, what she loves about growing older, the blessings of young motherhood, her recovery from an eating disorder, and how she motivates herself to stay fit. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am so excited to be guest hosting. Well that's good. But before I even get started with the hosting part, I just wanted to tell y'all that, well one, just thank you for listening. I mean, this has just been incredible. Sadie came with the idea to start a podcast. This has been like three years ago. and I checked before I came on here because I wanted to be able to tell you all

because I know Sadie will not like brag about this, but this podcast has had almost 15 million downloads, which I think is pretty incredible. So thanks to y'all for just joining and listening and as a mama, I'm so proud of my girl and what she's done and all the incredible advice that has been given on this podcast because you know it makes a difference. I know I talk to people all the time all over the country that tell me what a difference

this podcast has made in their life and you know this takes a lot of work and Sadie works really hard to do something great for you guys and I just wanna thank you all for listening and watching. I love you. All right, well, welcome to whoa, that's good. This is so much fun. This is my first time to ever guest host of course been a guest on Sadie's podcast,

but she is still on maternity leave, taking care of baby honey. And so she asked me to guess hosts, and I was so excited to get to ask Candice Cameron Baray to join us today. Thank you so much for being here. Oh, they're asking me. Well, so Candice and I have been friends for quite a while.

And also, not only cherish your friendship, I also admire you from afar on Instagram and the way you just live your life. So out loud for Jesus and sharing your faith as someone in the spotlight and a woman that is just super successful, but also super faithful. So I wanna thank you for that.

And I feel the exact same way about you. Aw, thank you so much. Well, I thought we'd just start out by sharing like how we got to know each other. And I feel the exact same way about you. Oh, thank you so much. Well, I thought we'd just start out by sharing like how we got to know each other. I don't even know if you remember exactly how we first met, but it was very significant to me because I needed you in that moment.

So it's when Sadie got asked to do dance. And with the stars, the producer of Dance With the Stars told me, you know, that who she had chosen for Sadie's partner was also your partner. And Sadie was 17 years old, barely turned 17. And I was like, I feel like I need to talk to somebody that I trust, that I'm gonna entrust my daughter to this person for like six weeks.

And they don't normally, of course Sadie did not know who her dance partner was going to be. They don't tell you who your dance partner was, but because I was the mom, she was like, okay, I'll give you a little insight. And he actually danced with Candice. So if you want to talk to Candice, and she can kind of tell you a little bit about Mark, Mark Ballis was her partner, and you know, just about the experience and kind of put your mind at ease. So I called Candice out of the blooms like,

okay, as a mom, mom to mom, should I let say you do this? Yeah, and you were great. You were so nice. Thank you. I was, um, I was so surprised when you had called me. And I'm like, Cory Robertson wants to talk to me. Like, or what? This is so exciting. And then you asked me all about Mark and how he was. And of course, I had glowing reviews of Mark because of one of the biggest experiences of my life.

And Mark was so wonderful and protective and careful. I mean, he just knew the drill, but he also is a sensitive guy and like knew, just knew how to do it really well. So I was like, if she wants to do this, go for it because Mark is a great partner. Yes, that was so good. It really did put my mind at ease. That's from mom to mom and your kids are the same ages. Our kids and our kids have been friends for a long time. And so that was

crucial actually. I don't know that Sadie would have done dance with the stars, had I not been able to talk to you and felt good about that. And more became just like such a big brother to Sadie and the whole experience was amazing. So it was great. So all right, so now that we got that out of the way, I wanna ask you what everyone gets asked on this podcast, what is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given? Oh my gosh, I should have prepared for this. I should have prepared for this. I should have prepared for this.

I didn't realize this is like a major, major question. What's the best piece of advice? Okay, this is the first thing that just popped into my head and I feel like lots of people have heard this advice, but my mom gave it to me. And she's kind of said it my whole life, but I actually remember a time during dancing with the stars that she gave me this advice again.

And she was like, honey, would you feel comfortable if Jesus was standing right in front of you? Whatever choice you had to make, whatever act you're gonna do, whatever you're about to say, would you if Jesus were standing right there? Wow, that's good. I guess I've ever had because What is my moral compass? Yeah, and when I know that my maybe my mind, my heart,

whichever it is is like, if it's on the fine line, that is like the ultimate maker to know whether I could stand before Jesus comfortably and be like, I said that. So that's so good. That's so good. I love that so much and it's so true because he is. He is with us all the time, everywhere we go. Wow. But sometimes we easily forget, yes, I think that's great advice. And I see that and how you've lived your life.

And that was actually one of the things I wanted to talk to you about really, because you are one of the people that are in the spotlight, celebrity, you're on full house, fuller house, all the hallmarked movies, all the things you do, but in through all of it, you have lived with your faith out loud. And I know there are other believers in Hollywood and there are people who are Christians in Hollywood, but very few of them live as out loud as you do for Jesus. So tell me kind of like, why do you do that?

Like what motivates you to keep doing that? Keep speaking about your faith. I love Jesus. Do it just I can't not. It's not hard of me that I can put aside for my work or when I go out with certain friends or other friends. It's just he, I truly believes the most important person in my life and it just comes from me. It exudes from me and I can't put, I can't put the pause button on it. So of course, like there's times when I use discernment, when to share my faith or when to talk more about him

or less about him. And it is kind of tricky in the entertainment industry because as a person who wants to live her faith out loud, you know, I, I understand and respect that not all people share that faith and yet it's what's important to me. So I feel like there's a way in which we can we can share that isn't offensive to people if they don't believe because it's not it doesn't have to be for you if you don't want it to be. But let me tell you I would love to share it, but it's your choice to make. And if it's something you don't want to think about or talk about or have a relationship with or watch some of my movies or shows because they have a faith element, then by all

means, like just pass it along. And that's kind of it. I, I, I hope that the way that I do share my faith, I know it's authentic to me. And again, it's never about trying to shove it in someone's face. It's just like when you're getting married or you're having a baby or you just got a new job or bought a new house, Like when you have some exciting news to share, you just like that's, yeah, you wanna do a share it. And that's how I feel about Jesus. I love that.

I see that in you and Sadie actually said one time. I remember she was a little discouraged because she just kind of felt like people didn't really understand her. Maybe she was like, why, she's saying so much about this or whatever. And she was like, I'm just a normal girl. I just happened to really, really, really love Jesus. You know, it's like, it's so true. That's it. You know, and it is like you said, it's something that

I think as Christians, we can be a little scared about like, oh, how do we, you know, win and how, and all that. But when it just comes out of like, okay, it's just who I am and it's what I'm excited about. And so it's natural to talk about Jesus when it comes out of your life in that way. Yes, it does. And the more you do talk about Jesus or God or the gratitude or the blessings that he's given you, it builds your confidence.

So sometimes it's just little small steps if you're scared to share those things with people, but the more you do, the more confident you will become in that. I think that's where I am at my age now at 45. It's like, every year I learn what's more and more important to me, what I really put my value in and what legacy I want to leave. And that right there just gives me confidence. Age gives me confidence.

I think it does fall. But it really grows my confidence being able to confidently share my faith. Yeah. I think that's so great. I was thinking about with your mom's advice and with dancing with the stars and knowing that Sadie felt that way on days with Source 2. And like us kind of getting into entertainment and Hollywood and other Christians kind of been scared for us like, oh, you know, be careful.

It's dangerous or whatever. You know, what happens to your kids or whatever are you're doing reality TV and, you know, for me, I felt the same way it's kind of like you know like they can only film who we are and what we do you know and like here are faith informs all of it it's not just one part of our life it's not just okay our faith is what's happens when we're at church it's like who we are within our marriage, who I am as a mom, who I am as a friend, who I am as a business person, who I am when I come to work or whatever.

And so I think that when we can, our faith can encompass all of that, it just comes out. It just comes out of us. And so people can't really get around it. And I think that's a good thing, actually. That's a good thing. Yeah.

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I've noticed that you do even incorporate some of your faith into all of it, some of your different licensing. How do you kind of like decide? Now I guess this is shifting a little bit to business advice here because I know I know you have tons of things coming at you. I'm sure tons of decisions to make about like should I do this or should I do that? And I think a hard thing a lot of times is knowing like what to say yes to and what to say no to. How do you make those decisions?

Yes, well, I've had a journal that I've been writing in for years. A lot of them are just big prayers, big dreams, things that I would love to do or accomplish in my life. And so I have sought those out over the years. And I keep praying about them. I mean, that's the start of all of the things that I've done is to know that these things didn't just happen. Happ has or leave. They didn't all just come about. I have been working towards the goal. I have been praying about them for many, many years. So something like a clothing line might seem like, wow, that's so great.

And I'm so excited that it's come to fruition. But this is something I've been praying about for probably 15 years. It was like, it's been on my list of things that I would love to be able to do. And with all of my faith products with Day Spring, that the whole Candace Cameron Burray brand of devotionals and Bibles and and Home Decor that's Faithfield.

Again, it's like another outlet that I've I'm like God how can I share Jesus more with people and I am an entrepreneur. I love I love business but I love pretty things you know know, and so this was been on the list for a long time too, because every time, well, there aren't even that many Christian bookstores around anymore. A lot of it, you have to get online, but certainly in California, unless it's in a church, like there are just no Christian bookstores, which, which usually sold like home decor, whether it was pillows or candles or something

that were faith-inspired products. But I couldn't find them. And the things that I did find, I felt like they were so old fashioned or something that my grandma might love, but they don't fit my style and they work at the temporary. So again, it was the goal. I was like, I would love to have these kinds of products

that would be aesthetically pleasing for my style and my home. And so a lot of these things I've sought out to get to the bigger question about how I choose who I partner with. Even with skincare, the skincare that I use which is Dr. Lancer and I'm on QVC all the time with that. But I've been using it for 13 years. So I actually knocked on their door and I was like, how can I partner with you? Because I believe in

this, I love it. You've changed my skin, which has changed a lot of my life because it has given me confidence. And so sometimes I've knocked on the door, sometimes opportunities have come to me, but at the foundation of it all, it has to be authentic to me. It has to be real. It has to be truthful and honest. If I don't use it, if I don't love it, there's no way I will sign my name on the dotted line no matter how much money it is because yeah. And I know you feel the same way too. You guys miss this same way. It's like there isn't enough money for me to push something that isn't real that I don't believe in. And I wouldn't want my customer or the people that follow me.

There's a trust that we have. Yes. Because I'm honest with them and I don't ever want to break that trust. Yeah. I think that's so good and so important because there is so, yeah. I mean, you can look online at any moment and things are just being thrown at you constantly, but you know, when they can look at somebody like,

okay, I know Candace, I trust that what she's saying is something that this is important to her and this is something that she uses in her real life. I think that's really important. One of the things she said at the very beginning of that that I wanna make sure like people do not miss is that 15 years of prayer and writing in journal and thinking about and dreaming about so many people you know can look at somebody on Instagram or look at you you know

or listen to you and think oh it just happened overnight this like huge success just pops up people are just like you know sending her things you meet you know all of a sudden and it is over time, and I know that, I know this about your life, that you did take some time off whenever you had babies and you didn't work, you didn't pursue your acting during that time, and there's a quote that I remember that impacted me whenever I was a young mom,

it was just that you can do everything you want in life just not all at once, and I remember thinking that, okay, the patient, it's like, this is what I'm doing, this is what God has for me right now, but there's gonna be time when I can do this or I can do that or I can do that. So I'd love for you to just kind of speak to that, that decision to take time off then

and was it the right one for you and how has that affected your life? Yes, I love that God gives us seasons in life and I feel like just what you just what you said so many of us feel like we have to do it all at once. And the truth is we we can do it all just not at the same time. Yeah, put it down for a while. You can go back to it and pick it up at a different time in your life. put the balloon down for a while, you can go back to it and pick it up

at a different time in your life. And that's how I felt when I had kids, you know, Val, you know, my husband was a professional hockey player in the NHL for 12 years. And that was not the type of job that he could just put down or like take a point from. So once you're you have your window and

we had kids very young, you know, two years after we got married and one of us wanted to be home and raise the kids and that was not an option for my husband playing a professional sport. So I knew that I wanted to stop working

and mind you, my life isn't typical in the sense that I wanted to stop working. And mind you, my life isn't typical in the sense that I started work at five years old. So here I, I'm going to do a year old now saying, like, I'm going to stop working, whereas most 22 year olds are just getting their life started. Yes. But I'd already worked for more than 15 years and decided to take a break.

But that was a big decision because I was at the height of a very successful television show. But I knew it was the right decision for us because we didn't want someone else raising our child. And again, I, there's no right or wrong in that department. It's what is right for you and your family, but like babysitters were great when I wanted a night out or to go to a hockey game, but I didn't want full-time care. I wanted to be the full-time care for my child. But it was hard, you know, it was hard in that season

to surrender to it. It took me a few years just because I was so used to working, but I'm so grateful. God grew me so much in that season in my life, and it was 10 years that I stayed home and dedicated to just raising my children. But I always prayed and knew that if God wanted me back into the workforce, which I wanted to go back into the entertainment industry, that he would open that door.

And at the same time, if he didn't open that door, I was confident that entrusted God that he knew what was best for me. Because certainly staying home and raising my kids was what was best for me. I could look at that in retrospect and say, thank you, Lord, for putting that on my heart. And because he did grow me so much. But, you know, as we, Val and I had decided that time after he retired from hockey, we started praying about going for me to go back to work and, you know, God flung those doors wide open.

I was actually shocked because I was so at peace that going back into entertainment wasn't in the cards. I was so okay with it. But that wasn't the case. So, you're obviously nuts. So, I went in full force and really worked my butt off. And I wanted everything that I do, but it almost gave me this different, one, a different viewpoint of going back

into the workplace because I genuinely saw it as a mission field in my industry, but every industry is a mission field that you don't have to be an entertainment. Every outlet is a mission field for Christ. So I saw it from that point of view, but then it also gave me this almost renewed energy of like, I felt like I had something to prove, but not in the sense that I just wanted to do it for myself. Like, wow, God made this opportunity and I want to work. It's part of the thing and honor him and I'm just going to go for it. And I have. I love that. Yeah, you definitely have.

I looked up because I was like, how many hallmark movies have you actually been in? And I looked up, says 26 hallmark movies. I think 26 hallmark movies. Yes. A lot. I've done over, I know I've done over 30, maybe even over 35, that you know, other movies.

Other movies. Yes. And then your full house and fuller house and all the things you do in your books and children's books, you have gone full force. And I love that. As you said, you were 45 and 47, I think. And I always forget my age.

I'm terrible at that. But to be able to look back at your life and see where God prepared you in those times, I remember being a young mom and thinking, okay, is this it? What do you have for me? What's my life gonna look like? What's it gonna end loving that moment

in that time period, but also being like, huh, what's it gonna be? What's it gonna have? And but also being like, huh, like what's it gonna be? What's it gonna have? And now at 47, I'm like, I got so much time, I can do it all of it. Like I can do it. I still feel young, I still feel like I've got so much time that, you know, and I remember just in that,

you just feel like your life is like gonna be done at 30 and it's not, it's definitely not. Sometimes like when I'm in a room and now that I'm working usually I'm the old person in the room like our camera operators, you know sound, costume, just make them here all 20 years younger than me. I don't feel any older than them. Yeah. Number. I'm like I miss young in spirit. That's right. Everyone else. And you you are as old as as you make yourself as as old as you feel. You know, it's only a number. Yes. My parents in our 70s, my dad is in the 70s, and they are young and spirit. Let me tell you.

Yes. We have that in our family too. I'm so thankful. My grandmother turned 90 and she's amazing. She's actually making homemade ice cream for Sadie's birthday tonight, like right now. And at 90 years old and taking care of everybody and still cooking and just, just, and, and looks beautiful and fabulous and so yeah it's just I do remember because I had baby's young I was just like you

we were married at eight I was 18 when I got married so I was young how would were you when you all get married? 20 yes and it's had baby's young and I remember I had two I had you know John Luke and Sadie carrying on both around camp because John Willie ran the camp, was the camp manager at the camp at the time. And I remember some young college student calling me maim. And I was like, 24, you know, and he was like, yes maim. And I was like, I'm not that much older than you.

I just have two kids. I just started early, you know. Yeah. Great. Yes. Well, okay. So since we were talking about kids and Sadie's home with baby honey right now, is you have any mom advice? Like what would you say is your best mom advice? I know I'm throwing

this one on you. Man, I'm sure from you, Emily though, she is not going to get any better advice from anyone else. Yeah, you guys are parents and grandparents and great grandparents. So my advice. Well, being a young mom, I, I I think I would tell her to try to enjoy. Sounds so it's like you're wedding day. Like try to enjoy the moments. Yeah, but I think being a young mom, I was still very occupied with all the other things that the people my age were doing that didn't have kids and look back on it and go, I wish I just spent more time like staring at your toss, or live, or max's feet, or things like, I'm so proud to be here. Yes, do things.

And I'm like, there's so much time later to do things, and a young parent, it really is, because I'm like, I'm 45 and I've three grown adult children. Yes. And my whole life ahead of me to do all these things. So enjoy, enjoy, yeah, just enjoy like all the little, little tiny things because you'll have good.

It's so true. I tell say that to you all the time. Like just into what you just the little, I mean, we we always call babies like the biggest time wisters because like they can. They can waste your whole day. You're like, wait, what did I do today? I just basically stared at you and fed you and changed you and all that. But there's nothing better. There's no better job than, and it just, it's like a blink in their grown adults. What about having adult kids? I'm loving this phase of life, having adult kids.

I know you are two. Your kids are so much fun and it's just it's a fun fun stage of life to be able to transition to be in friends with your kids. Yeah, I love it. I love the teenage years so much because I love I love conversation and I love different personalities. I love me. You know it's like if it doesn't sound like there's an argument in our house, then it's not. It's not the same thing the way night. Yes.

We are all really spirited, opinionated people. And of course, we're not arguing, but we are just like, we go out at it. So if you don't have much of a personality, you're not going to have fun in our house at dinner. Yes. Oh, my goodness. So we know the feeling. Yeah, it's great. So having young adult children, I just, I love seeing who God has made them.

It too. And I love seeing where they're going, but I love hearing all their thoughts and what they want to do with who they are. And sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't agree and those are the best conversations. Yes, I love that too. When you get to the point, I mean, I feel like you always learn from your kids,

like even as when they're babies and children, like God is teaching you something through them, but as they can become adults, you're actually learning from them. Like, you know, we're talking about what are you reading? What are you listening to? What, you know, what podcast? What, and there's this like exchange of learning and growth.

It's just a beautiful thing that I'm really thankful for. I love that too. I will, I will tell you all share this with you over Val and I. We're having a difficult time like at the start of last year when the pandemic had hit. And it was just a struggle for a little bit. We had to work some things out and we kind of talked to the kids a little bit and then Lev was like, can I a couple days later? Can I please talk to you too? We're like, yeah, sure. Lev, like, Can I please talk to you two? We're like, yeah, sure. I'm getting my book. I'm getting a Bible out.

Like, Bible, and he was like, yeah, really preached a sermon for 45 minutes to our fix. And he was like, not what I'm saying. This is what God's words and this and this and this. So I just would like you to think about that. That's the best. It was awesome. I was like, that good. I needed to hear that. You know, your 21 year old son is speaking into you.

Yeah. That it's like, wow, that is as a parent, like such a gift. That's so good. I love that. When you sew those seeds into them when they're young, and you just reap that reward when they're grown, you're like, oh, okay, I taught you that in a moment. When you did it, I need to teach you. And now you're coming back and teaching me.

There is no greater reward than that. I love that. Actually, I was talking to a friend the other day, and she was saying that she and her husband were having a little argument and her kids are young and she said her son, he's like five yelled, mom, dad, you need to get in there and cook together because they were like arguing. They were in the other room just arguing and he just like yelled at him like, mom, dad, go cook. That'll solve this problem, you know. Sometimes we need our kids to set us

straight. I love that so much. But that's like with parenting advice and you said it. It's like all those seeds that you're sowing. Yeah. Some people don't sound like they hear it or acknowledge it. It sounds like it goes in one ear and out the other, but it doesn't, it always comes back and it's never a waste of time. Never worth the effort, even in the hardest of days. So good. And just just planning them in God's word because like that's the truth that like doesn't change. And so it's whenever I always feel like, you know, there's so much in the world right now that's changing. There's so many, you can be tossed and turned and always

think about for our kids. I'm like, I hope, I just hope that we planted their roots really deep in God's word and that they know that they can always come back to that. And I love that he just got the Bible out and and read straight from it because that that never changes. That's so good. Yeah. Okay, before we end, I want to have to ask you this, because your fitness, every time I watch it, I'm like, all right, every time you post something where you're working out, I'm like, all right,

I'm gonna start doing it, you're killing me, I'm so impressed, so give us some tips, like how do you, I know with your life you're in a set of busy, because that's Maxi. Maxi's always like, okay, I'll just get in some kind of little workout routine, and then I have to travel, or something else happens,

and then I get out of it. So how do you, like, your consistency, how do you do it? Give us some tips, fitness tips now. Yeah, I mean, some days I have to motivate myself, like I don't want it, but I just do it. But I know how much better I feel. I think that's also been a lifelong battle for me because I have struggled with needing disorder like a long time ago, but it's always been, it's always been

somewhat of a challenge. So once I finally found certain fitness Sports or like Kira Stokes the trainer and her app once I found things in fitness that I really loved Then it it helped me balance out what some of the struggle have been yeah, and so I just I love it and then I know I feel so much better Mm-hmm And I feel better than I don't have so much better. And when I feel better, then I don't have to struggle with the things that I struggle mentally with.

So I know that that's something that is pre, what am I, I'm blanking out on the word, but proactive. I am being proactive for my mental health to do the fifth work. So that's a big, big part of it. But I also compete with myself. I'm a really competitive person. I'm like, oh, I gotta get my steps in. I have to beat yesterday's.

Okay. I'm about it. It's like once you get into it and I break all the time because like when I'm filming a movie I won't pretty much not work out for three weeks because I can't do the type of fitness that I do with the filming schedule but as soon as that's over, man, I pick right back up. It takes me a couple days to get back but then by the by the fifth day I feel good again like myself and I can do everything that I used to do but I Think the consistency of just knowing how much better I feel. Yeah, it's good Mentally is what keeps me going. That's good. I love that

Sadie is like you and the competitiveness like she can't wear her Apple watch because it makes her feel like she needs to beat herself from the day before like the the little apps that, you know, tell you what you did. So she's like, I have to like put it aside sometimes because she'll be competitive with herself. Yeah. I don't have quite as much of that. I need a little bit more of that in me. I'm actually, I like to have a goal.

So like, if I have, you know, I signed up for a half marathon and like that got me because like, then I had to train for it, you know, I signed up for a half marathon and like that got me because like, then I had to train for it, you know? And so I trained, I loved it, I enjoyed it, I ran every day, I did the half marathon, I quit running, I was like, all right, I gotta sign up for something else, you know? But I think that's good, it's that finding what it is that motivates you,

that makes you want to do it. And I actually love the way I feel when I do it consistently. It's just the consistency that gets me. But I love that. Just get back on. You say that you don't do it sometimes during your filming, but then you just get right back up. All right.

That's good. Yeah. It also really helps to have a buddy. And I feel like because our house is a very physical house because Val isn't athlete. I mean, he runs an hour every day. Yeah. It doesn't matter what he's done the day before. It doesn't matter. He's on a plane. It doesn't matter. You know, if he had some wine, it's like he gets up and he runs. Yeah. So and then all my kids work out too. So we're just an active family. So, it's needed to be motivated that way,

but all my whole point being, have a buddy, or have a couple of, have some girlfriends, just like let's go on a walk today, let's do an action today, something that helps a lot. Perfect. Thank you so much. It's so good. I feel like we talked about,

we've reigned the gamut, pretty good, motherhood Entrepreneurship Business fitness faith all of that so thank you so much of it so much fun to catch up with you I just love your family say hi to Val and all the kids for me and Just got blessed you and all that you're doing Thank you And your whole family and I will yes, I hope to see you all in person. Yes.

Yes, I hope so. Alright, thanks so much Candice. you