WHOA That's Good Podcast - If This Is How Everyone Feels, I Don't Want It! | Sadie Robertson Huff | Maia Huff | Blakely Huff

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

Y'all settle in for a fun, lovely, loving, and vulnerable conversation with Sadie, her sister-in-law Maia, and her cousin-in-law Blakely. Blakely and Maia both share their stories of when their relationship with God truly began: Maia's was after a breakup and a vicious spiral of shame and depression, and Blakely says she came to a crossroads with God and was tired of being a lukewarm believer! While their stories are quite different, you'll be encouraged and blessed to hear how God was — and is — working and leading in their lives. Both women came to a point where they knew they needed to be all in with the Lord — and if you're at that point, keep going! Jump in! Then they tackle finding community in different seasons and places. Maia's life with Chance (Christian's brother) in Minor League baseball means moving a lot, and she has a bunch of ways to encourage you to be invited and do the inviting when it comes to meeting new people. Blakely has great advice on navigating long distance friendships and remembering that giving grace to others is so important, and Sadie reminds us to always assume the best of one another!  This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored by: https://www.trymiracle.com/whoa — Get 40% off + 3 FREE towels with code WHOA at checkout! https://www.12vc.com/sister — Commit to the 12 Verse Challenge and help fund 12 Verses of Scripture a year for people who have little to no access to Scripture! https://hungryroot.com/whoa — Get 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But let me tell you something, it's about to get so much better. You are in the right place at the right time because we have two incredible guests on the podcast Let me set up just a little bit because you guys might know them you see me post about them But I have Maya and Blakely on the podcast today. Let me tell you who these people are So Maya is my amazing sister-in-law She's made a chance you guys all just got to know last week on the podcast and Maya has an incredible podcast herself We reference this on the podcast last week in this together.

She puts out so many incredible things, so many great conversations that she's stewarding so well. And then also we have Blakely, my cousin through marriage, Christian and Chances' cousin Blakely, who is just the coolest, the sweetest. You guys are gonna absolutely love her. And they're actually working together right now. You wanna tell us a little bit

about what y'all do together real fast, which first of all, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, we are so happy to be here. We're so happy to be here. It's awesome. A long time coming, guys. Oh my gosh. A long time coming. But I refuse to do an over the phone podcast with y'all. It's like, it has to be together.

In person is the best. Only. We get to see each other. Yes, exactly, yeah, in this together. And Honey loves it, cause she gets to see Bakley. Is that what she calls you? Bakley and May May. Yes. And we get to have a slumber party tonight,

which we are going to go all out for. So we have to stop to make after this. We've got to go get some stuff for our slumber party. It's so funny because we're walking around the office. And for those who know the office space up here, so the podcast studio is in the Duck Commander warehouse, right, and so there's like Duck Commander, there's Tread Lively, there's L.O. Girls,

there's a variety, and Martin, for those who watch Duck Dynasty know who Martin is, he's like sitting in the break room area, and we walk by, and he's like, man, y'all are a puppy. What did he say? Like y'all are a puppy. We went to Starbucks before that. I know, but that's just who y'all are.

Let's be real, Starbucks or North Starbucks? Yes, true. We don't even drink caffeine. No, we, yeah, we, you have a little bit. Not much, yeah. Which is like, yeah, baby caffeine. Yeah, you're right. It's so funny.

Well, I truly am so glad that y'all are on the podcast. Maya, we just got to have Chance On. I know, it was the sweetest episode. We were in the car together, dying laughing, and then kind of tearing up, and then we die laughing. We were like, also to know the context of these stories that are being shared. Oh my gosh, and let me tell you,

from embarrassing stories, there's about 20 million more that could be shared. All theirs, and I won't do it right now, but maybe another time, we'll just have to go through all the embarrassing stories. Whenever I was like, Christian, do you have an embarrassing story of Chance? I was like, well, do you? Which one is one coming to mind at the moment?

That was so funny. And then Blakely, this is your first time on the podcast. I know! It's so fun. Welcome. I know. We were all the way, we were like, we love doing podcasts, it's so fun.

So since y'all are podcast queens, because you guys, are you on it like all the time now? Or what is the status? You're just- You're good them out though. You're a regular guest on the- Last season you were on quite a bit. It was basically Blakely and Maya on there.

And then Chance- We recorded it on our phones. On our phones. It was very, you know, just hodgepodge together. But with each other like super close and then just have the phone right next to it. It's okay, mine did not look like this six and a half years ago either.

It was hodgepodge in the car. I remember like in my Jeep, I had my little mixeded P3 player. And I had a little microphone. And I was trying to like, yeah. But that's so fun though. Because that's just how it's getting started. And it's so awesome.

You have so much good content out there. If you guys aren't following them on social media, I don't know what you're doing. I say that often in the podcast, but I really mean that. These are people you want to be following. So tell us a little bit about what y'all are doing together right now. Yeah, Jack of all trades master of that

is what it feels like. So we started out with ministry stuff, doing a course and then some gatherings. And Maya has been doing ministry stuff for a couple years, but we started doing some stuff together and then pivoted to more of a creative agency, specializing in social media management and- Email marketing.

Email marketing. Marketing, brand strategy, all that kind of stuff. We really wanted to go the full ministry route, but that route was just very hard to do, just like full time, like going after it. And so we're like, you know, what could we do, God? I mean, it was truly like a, just all over the place, like just like, God, wherever you lead us, we'll go.

And so it was a few months of kind of figuring out what that looked like. And so it's been so cool. Cause if we never would have dreamed, it would have come to like a creative agency, but it has been, it all makes so much sense. It has been so much fun. And so we've been so thankful to get to work together on it

and just really working out of the overflow of our lives and whatnot. So it's been so cool. I love it. It's been so cool to watch, by the way. You guys have done so many cool things. It's helped so many people and now seeing where it's landed, I was telling you this at the lake,

I was like, it's so cool to see where it's landed because all the different things that you love and it's a lot of things that you love and equally are really good at, then you're like, I wanna do this, I wanna do that, I wanna do that. It's like all of a sudden it has come to this point where it's like, oh, I'm actually getting to do all of it in such a unique way that I didn't think

I was gonna get to do. And so it's been really cool to see where y'all have landed. Yeah, completely. And I think what's so cool is like you said, there's so many little things that, and maybe you're somebody listening to this and you're like, man, God, I have so many different little passions

and I have no idea how they can all work together. And that's what's been so cool about Overflow Creative is like, we love ministry, we love helping people, we love business, we like get to work with swimsuit brands, with real estate agents, with people who are doctors, with ministries, yeah. And now we're like, man, we love all these things. And now to get to put it all in one place

and truly help people with it, it's like, wow, all of the kind of road we've been on that's been kind of windy and trying to figure out, it like, it all makes sense. So maybe somebody's listed right now and you're like, man, I got a lot of things that I love and I don't know where God's gonna bring it. Just keep writing them all down, keep praying into them.

And I know for us, it was a long way, but we feel like we finally really arrived to it. Not exactly the destination, but we feel like really confident in this next step with Overflow Creative, which is sweet. It's so good. Y'all are amazing, and everything y'all are doing is so cool,

and I know y'all are gonna help so many people because I have a list of questions that people have sent in for you guys, and all of this you can speak to so much, but some of the topics submitted were like college life, dating, friendships, being business owners post-grad, and I feel like you guys are like pro to talk about all of this. Do we have 24 hours?

There's a lot of things we can talk about. Y'all are well-wisdomed, but the first question I do want to ask y'all is how do each of y'all turn your swag on? Oh my gosh. I was not expecting that. I didn't know? Oh my gosh. I was not expecting that. I didn't know you were for real about that. I was not expecting that.

Oh my gosh. I'm actually kidding. You didn't tell the back story. Okay, back story on this, because there is a spiritual message in this that I totally actually wanna ask you about Blakely. But, so Blakely was sharing a story about how this girl wanted to go on a walk with Blakely

or was going on a walk. You know how we're good friends, right? Well, this is like one of the coolest people ever. She just like, she has so much swag. She is Miss LA, she has swag. Like, well, she can just throw something on it, it's cool, no matter what. Like, and you look at it and you're like, that's so cool.

But if I did that, I don't know if it'd land kind of thing. And so anyways, Blakely was like, we were going on a walk together and she's like super model status. And I'm like, and you were like, I'm just know if it'd land kind of thing. And so anyways, Blakely was like, we were going on a walk together and she's like super model status. And I'm like, and you were like, I'm just like me, you know. I'm like hair in a disastrous bun and here we go. But I'm like, when I'm looking at Blakely, I'm like, but, but like, don't you feel like sometimes

when you look at people like that, you're like, I could be that, like if I just like turn my swag on. This is the delusional confidence. You're like, yeah, you're like, I'm gonna just turn my swag on. I was like, I could be that If I just like turn my swag on. This is the delusional confidence. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna just turn my swag on. I was like, I could be that if I just turn my swag on. And I was like, but I just don't turn my swag on. It's a choice, it's by choice that I don't have my swag on. But what I actually meant by that is like,

you know, you look at someone and people sometimes are like, they are really cool and you don't feel that cool, but you're like, maybe if I put in this effort or whatever, but then you're like, but I'm not going to, because that's just not who I am. I would feel, it would be fake if I did it, because that's naturally who she is, and it's really cool and it's respectable.

But if I did it, it would actually, it wouldn't even feel right, because it's not me. It would be like imposter syndrome. But I do think so many girls fall in that lane of like trying to be like that person, and then they feel that imposter syndrome. But I do think so many girls fall in that lane of like trying to be like that person. And then they feel that imposter syndrome. And then you don't feel that you're enough when it's like, no, it's not that you're enough.

It's just that now you're comparing yourself to someone who isn't you or even who you're called to be. Because a lot of people look at you Blakely and they're like, man, if I was just like Blakely Huff. I mean, I remember like whenever I first heard about like you and Hatton and from Bella and Sterling and like thinking y'all were just some of the most beautiful people I'd ever seen,

just so naturally effortlessly cool. They're very like, like very cool. Like just cool, you know? You are like Malibu cool, you know? Like your style is so cool and all that stuff. It's literally same for you, Maya, when I first met you, like you think the same things about these people. And then it's so interesting when you hear the person

you think is the cool, say it about someone else because you're like, you have the swag, you know? Yours has always been on. Yours has been turned on for a long time. It's just the button has switched. And so anyways, we've been kind of laughing about that, but I do think it's actually a good message in and of itself.

I do want to ask you, Blakely, like you seem really comfortable and like confident in your own skin and in who you are. Is that something that comes natural to you or is something that you work towards? That's a really good question. I feel like, honestly, it's been something that I Feel like I struggled with identity stuff a lot and I know it sounds so young but this it really does start

We talked a lot about middle school today, but a lot in middle school like really figuring out I mean those are the years that Either goes really south or you're like starting to figure it out And I feel like those were the years that I really struggled of like, who am I? Who do I wanna be? Just comparison and all the things. And I was on the dance team.

And so as you can imagine, there's so much of that when you're around 20 girls all the time. But I honestly, it's just as simple as I started following Jesus going into high school. I feel like it was just this thing where I was just so obsessed with God that I just really didn't care about what anyone thought. And I think sometimes in the past,

I've wanted to downplay that reality when I've been asked that question before of like, has that always been natural? And I think truly as I came to know and love Jesus, I just was so infatuated by him that I was like, honestly, that sounds exhausting to try to be someone I'm not. And then them get to know me for this false version of myself and then have to like revert to who I actually am

in fear of like, oh gosh, are they gonna now like who I really am? And so honestly, a lot of that was encouraged by my mom and just being exactly who I am. I love that. That's so cool. And it kind of goes with the whole message of like, you see when you're looking at another person and you see they are,

you're like, I wanna be like them, and then you try to copy, then you don't feel enough and you feel lessened. But truly when you're looking at Jesus, you're getting to see who you are, like who you are called to be, who you were created to be by your creator. And it does bring forth such a confidence

and like you can own your space because one, you realize it's really not about you. It's not what you look like. It's not about what you bring to the table other than your relationship with him. And it does shift things. And I'm saying thing middle school, man. It is like, I know, and I think sometimes we like

side sermon, but I think sometimes like we almost hesitate to like speak to young people, like in serious ways. He's like, oh, they're so young, but it's like, no, man. That is like middle school, you know too much and not enough truth. It's very hard. And I remember in eighth grade being like really insecure and wanting to find confidence

and really starting to find that in God in the years to come. But it's like an ongoing thing. I think you constantly have to like find yourself at the feet of Jesus. Maya, I wanna hear that about your life as well. But I wanna ask you specifically about like you and Blakely, even just like working together,

because one of the things we were talking about, even just in my prayer before the podcast is like, y'all are such a beautiful picture of like, whenever girls don't compete with each other, but like link arms, celebrate each other's gifting, really bring out the gifting of another person and you see something like even more beautiful become of it. I think too many girls have too much insecurity

and competitive mindsets to do that, but you guys are like a beautiful picture of what it looks like when you come together and create something beautiful. What has that been like for you, starting a ministry business with one of your cousins and friends? It has been so much fun.

I feel like that, even that question just makes me teary-eyed because I'm just like, wow, how good is God? And it just really is absolutely the sweetest thing. And for anyone who maybe finds themselves comparing themselves in a lot of competition, isn't that just exhausting? I've been there before. So I know that's my middle school, that's my high school,

that's my college, like and even now it's like I will find myself especially when I'm scrolling on social media or whatnot and that's when I become like honestly the least confident in who I am and who Maya is because I'm looking at like oh well like her lips are bigger or her hair looks cooler or whatever and you're looking at their outfits and then you're like man that is and like so I really have to kind of stray away from that, but it's just been like truly the sweetest gift to get to be together and like not compete, and like truly feel like, like whenever I see Blakely

like doing the things that God's called her to do, I am like, let's go, like I am so excited because of I love her so much, that, and you so much, like, you know, I love just. I love just seeing a woman and sisters doing what God's called them to do. And I think the reason that I can say that is that Jeremiah 29 or 23, Jeremiah 23. I think so.

But it's talking about, it's the verse about talking about how we're rooted. Whenever you're with the Lord, the Lord is like your ultimate source. He's a river and you're rooted and you're established. And when you're rooted by that source, then you could flourish, you can truly flourish. And what I think about, and as that source,

we think about it as being so not infinite. We think about the source, like think about it, everything here is scarce, like popularity, followers, money, it's all scarce. So in our mindset, when we think about flourishing, we think we have to compete with people to flourish. We think, oh, no, no, no, in order for me to be rooted, there's only this certain amount of space at the river bed

for me to be rooted, like no one else can be. And so what I've really realized through that scripture, we've studied it a lot together actually, which I think is maybe why that is so sweet to see in our relationship. I didn't think about that. But we studied that a lot together because we wrote a bunch of stuff about it.

And I think realizing that I realize, you know, with God as my source and with him being the one that all of my life flows through, I don't have to compete. I don't have to stomp on other people's buds that are planting and that are blossoming. If anything, I'm like, yes, this makes it look even more beautiful here.

And so I feel like that has been kind of a really, obviously going back to like the really root of our foundation is the Lord. And I know that that might sound like a cheesy answer for some of you, like, well, my friends aren't like that. And I think just really encouraging you and challenging you to like maybe kind of find that and maybe kind of like, just open up the conversation,

because you will be mind blown at what God does whenever you're just cheering your sister on and how it just changes your own heart. Like it really, I mean, we talk about this so much, but this life is just not about us. It's not about me. And so I think it really turns like our whole desire is that we become more in the image of Jesus.

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from seeing your sisters thrive? And I think the world kind of goes this route of competing, or it's like, because you feel like if someone does something good, then it's like indirect competition to you. But when you flip your mind to kingdom thinking, and you're able to celebrate like you're a team, it's fun.

It's like so much fun. It's so freeing for your mind. It's like you really do celebrate. And it's not something you have to like force yourself to do. It's something that just naturally comes in overflow. And it's beautiful. It's a beautiful gift. That's kingdom thinking.

And so again, like you said, for those listening, it's like, what? I've never experienced anything like that. That's the beauty of like the kingdom of God. And we're going to talk more about that. Just briefly, and I mean, not too brief, share as much as you want. But I do wanna hear a little bit of your testimonies

because obviously like you're so on fire for the Lord, both of you. We actually have like opposite spectrum. Cookies and cream. Yeah. I love that. Testimonies. Well, I think it's good to share

because people listening already are like, wow, like they love the Lord. They're so rooted in who they all are. And I know it's good to share because people listening already are like, wow, they love the Lord. They're so rooted in who they are. It wasn't always like that. And I know it's not always like that. And I know y'all's stories you share with me. And so I do think it's important to share because one of the most powerful things about this podcast

has been people coming on sharing their story and girls on the other side or guys on the other side going, man, that's me where I'm at right now. But that's where I could get to in Christ. And that's so motivational. So, Maya, that's me where I'm at right now, but that's where I could get to in Christ. And like, that's so motivational. So, Maya, take it away. Oh gosh. Go girl.

Oh man, this is a fun one. We're cheering you on. Thank you, I appreciate it. Restore the power. Restore the power. Yes, so I grew up and my grandmother was super, like she loved the Lord so much, but in my home, we went to church on Wednesdays,

like whenever for like afterschool care. And my mom and my dad believed in God, but we weren't like super like went to church on Wednesdays, like whenever for like afterschool care, and my mom and my dad believed in God, but we weren't like super like going to church on Sundays, like following, like reading scripture together or anything like that. So I like always, I grew up in a Christian home, but it wasn't like we were super, you know, just talking about it all the time or anything like that,

or really following God, I would say. And then I would say my middle school years were just tough and you know, girls are obviously sometimes rough to be around and can be brutal and share all the things that you don't want to hear. And then on high school I went into I was in high school and I was in a long-term relationship and then went into college in that same long-term relationship and so I was thinking I was going to go to medical school so I was like okay I'm going to go in-state tuition to Florida State University because I was gonna go to medical school. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna go in-state tuition to Florida State University because I was gonna go to medical school afterwards.

And so I got a scholarship there and I was so like just thankful. So I was in Florida State and I was there and I was completely lost. I, in high school, had no idea who I was or like what like honestly the Bible said about me or just any sort of truth. I knew like the Christian things,

like I knew don't have sex before marriage. I knew, you know, don't drink, don't party, whatever. I had no idea why. I had no idea. I just heard people say it. Like I was going to small groups, but I just didn't have that like, like that understanding or that, or anything like that.

And so then I go to Florida State University, which is just as probably everyone knows it, a wild party school, which it definitely can be. And that's what I just fell into. And I remember I had great intentions going into Florida State. I really wanted it to be my mission field, but then I got my mission field and I just drowned.

I just truly was just struggling so much. I was just like gotten to the, all the culture of just drinking and partying. And I mean, all the time, like it was, it's maybe if you've been to Forest State, you understand this, but you know, some schools it's like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you go out, whatever.

Mine was like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And I was just at the time, like it looked like I had everything. Like I was just, at the time, it looked like I had everything. I had friends, I had a boyfriend who was nice to me, not leading me in the right ways, but he was nice, he was nice in that way, and I was at school, and that was my freshman year,

and I remember that summer, I kinda had a break from everything, and I was like, wow, I was like, I don't really wanna go back to school. I was like, this wow. I was like, I don't really want to go back to school. I was like, this is, I was like, I couldn't put my finger on it because that summer I felt a lot better. But I was like, I didn't put on the finger,

the finger on that, like, that's what was kind of causing a lot of my, like starting to kind of go into like this depression, this anxiety, this extreme insecurity of like, just truly like looking at other people and being like, oh my gosh, I wish I had that and like acting in like bad ways because of one of those things. And, and then my sophomore year, I just, it was honestly all the Lord. It was the 21st night of September. This is like the craziest,

this song is my, it was so weird cause I was so excited for the 21st night of September. I was like, do you remember? And I told all my friends, I was like, I don't care. We are going to dance to that song. It is gonna be the best night of all of our lives. 21st night of September comes around. I'm sitting on my boyfriend at times room and I'm talking to him and I'm like,

I don't think that we're supposed to be together. And we've been together for three and a half years. And I was like, I don't know. I really, it was not like I knew I was gonna have this conversation. I have no idea. I've been feeling it for a long time because I was starting to realize that

whenever I was close to my boyfriend, I was far from God. And then whenever I was close to God, I was far from my boyfriend. And I was kind of getting to this age, my sophomore year when I'm like, you know, that people are talking about, you know, you get married after this, whatever. And I'm like, I don't want that to be my life.

Like I was like, I don't want to live a life where I'm close to somebody and far from God. Like I want them to bring me closer. And so I was processing kind of all those my sophomore year. And then I sat in his room that night and I was like, I don't think, you know, we're supposed to be together. And it was the craziest thing because he goes, yeah, me either. And I was like, you don't think, you know, we're supposed to be together. And it was the craziest thing because he goes, yeah, me either.

And I was like, you're not supposed to say that. Like, I was like. I was like. It sounded better coming from me. Yeah. I was like, whoa, that really is not what I thought. It makes it mutual. And that night we broke up on the 21st night of September.

I thought it was gonna be the happiest, like, dancing night of my life. And then we broke up. And after that, I wish that I could say, I just was full steam ahead, God, I love you. But I had so much shame, so much shame from just different things from partying, drinking,

things that him and I had done that the last place I wanted to go to was God. The last place I felt comfortable was going into church and being like, hey, I'm here again. This is what happened. And I was really living this just double life. And I just after that, like I said, I wish I could say I went straight to God's arms,

but I just ran, I just hid. I actually went into like the deepest spiral of drinking and like just partying led me to just so much heartbreak. And I, gosh, it's always like crazy thinking about just what has happened in your life. So led me to all of that. And then I had one night where basically things just went way too far. And I woke up the next morning and I remember all my friends were trying to console me and they were all like, they were all in my room

and they were like, Maya, like, it's okay. And one of my friends said, she goes, it's okay. And she was totally trying to console me. And she goes, it happens to everyone. Like this is how everyone feels. Like you drinking too much, like the trouble with guys and all this different stuff. Like this is how everyone feels.

And I was like, if this is everyone, I don't know what came out of my mouth. I said, if this is everyone, I don't know what came out of my mouth. I said, if this is everyone, I do not wanna be like everyone. I was like, I cannot do this any longer. Like I am so anxious. I'm so depressed. I am losing my mind.

And I felt really frustrated because I was like, I love you God, but why is this happening to me? But what was happening is that I wasn't, I believed in God, but I wasn't following Him. I wasn't giving Him my life. I wasn't giving Him my heart. I wasn't giving Him my obedience. And so I almost was like frustrated

because I was like, God, I do know you. Why is this happening? And it's like, well, because I'm doing things that are not in accordance with His word. And literally His word says that these are the things that will happen. And anyway, so just was so depressed, so anxious. And then long story short, that night,

one of my friends was in a drinking accident that night. That night, and I answered the phone with my friends and I'm like, just so sad. And I'm like, you know what, maybe they'll kind of tell me a little bit about like how I was back in high school and like, you know, how God loves me so much or whatever. And I answer the phone and he's like, Hey, your friend was in a drinking accident.

You need to pray. And I was like, that is the last. And I just bawled. I was like, that's the last thing I want to do right now is pray. And I started praying for God to save his life. And while I started praying that I realized all the times that God had saved my life. And so that night I was like, God, I don't know what this looks like.

I don't know how to follow you completely, but I'm so tired of doing the lukewarm thing, giving you half my life and I want to give you it all. And it did not look perfect. I fail all the time still, and I'm still working out how that looks like. But since then, truly the freedom that is found and giving it all over has been the greatest joy of my life.

So that's kind of the, in a way, a Spark Notes version, even though it sounds long. But so I kind of went to just like the opposite side of the spectrum. And so, yeah. Wow. I'm like, wow. So amazed.

First of all, like, your vulnerability and ability to just like tell the story is such a gift to me, to every single person listening. It's so refreshing because it's so human and so real and so honest. And it's crazy because even as you kind of stop for a minute and like, it's crazy to think about what like what you've done in your life, the things you've been through. And it is, and especially whenever you're on the other side of it, because you're truly a new creation.

And even looking at you, I'm like, you're such a new creation. I don't know that version of you. I don't know that person. I know Maya, May, Maymay. Truly a sunshine of a human on earth. So it's so heartbreaking to hear where you come from, but like so cool to see where God's taken you.

And I love the line where you said like, this is how everyone feels and I don't want to be like everyone. And I feel like that's like the beautiful thing of being like set apart. Like you don't have to be like everyone. That's actually not the way everyone should feel. I remember having a very similar like epiphany

where I was like, everyone feels this way. Cause I remember my friends talking about like, oh, that's just how every girl feels. And I remember being like, why? Because that's not like the blueprint for our life. That's not like what the Bible lays out. I mean, yeah, you're right in the sense of saying, the Bible does say these are the consequences of the sin.

This actually is how everyone will feel, but you don't have to, but there's an alternative. There's another way. So it's like so cool that you found that hope. And now to see where you're at, obviously there's a lot more to your story from then now. There's a lot of probably things that you could go down that road and share,

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Yes, I'll be the cookie. Mai and I always laugh because I feel like our stories compliment each other really well. For me, growing up, I would hear a testimony like that and feel a lot of guilt and shame even with my own story of like, it's not as crazy or I didn't go down those routes, honestly. And like, I didn't have that crazy come to Jesus moment

where I hit rock bottom and God's like, I'm like, thank you, Lord, for saving me. So I think for a lot of years, I shied away from sharing my testimony because I was just believing this lie. And the enemy loves to do this. I was just believing this lie that my story didn't have the same significance or crowd appeal or whatever, but it has been, I'll share my story.

I love that. Well, first of all, I'm so glad you said that because the other half of people listening to this have felt what you felt. Y'all are a good representation of most people's testimony. There's a lot of people who have a harder testimony, and then there's a million other testimonies. No one's the same.

Hard is hard, life is life, human is human. It's the same hurt that we all experience on whatever grand scheme of it you wanna say. But I do feel like a lot of people have said what you've said in the sense of like, I've felt shame to even share or I felt guilty because I feel like it's not as impressive or it's not as big or whatever that looks like.

And so I think that that is like extremely relatable. And I'm glad you even said that. Thanks. Yeah, and it's sweet because every time I share it, whatever that looks like. And so I think that that is like extremely relatable. And I'm glad you even said that. Thanks. Yeah, and it's sweet. Cause every time I share it, I'll probably get emotional because it's just, it's the greatest love story.

And it is this moment of saving that is just as beautiful as Maya's. So yeah, basically I grew up in a somewhat Christian household. We would go to church on Sundays, but I think by no means were we really like living that out on a day-to-day basis. And growing up, I always in church was,

I just am very practical. And I was always the kid that was like, I hate this. I do not wanna go to church on Sunday. I don't want anything to do with this. And I think looking back now, I understand that that stemmed from just this misunderstanding of the point of church because I didn't know that a relationship with Jesus

was even possible. So all that to say, in middle school, actually, I had a friend who was just constantly inviting me to Wednesday night youth group. And I remember like one night sitting on our kitchen floor because for some reason we would always sit on the kitchen floor. And my sister and I, I was like,

what excuse can I use this week? Like I do not wanna go to that, that's for weirdos. And I don't remember the excuse I pulled out that week, but I gave an excuse and then she kept inviting me. And gosh, that's like a whole side conversation of just persistence and inviting people because you never know when that will change. Because for me, it did change.

She kept inviting and she eventually invited me to this weekend retreat. It was called Blitz and it was our eighth grade spring break, like the first weekend of spring break retreat. And our whole family, Christian, Chance, my siblings, were all going on this amazing vacation. And I was like, you know what, no, I am going on this Blitz retreat

because it was probably spurred out of a fear missing out of what all my friends were doing and there's probably a cute boy going or something. That's zero. That's zero. That was definitely a cute boy. My crush was definitely there. But anyways, my parents ended up waiting.

Everyone else went on the trip. My parents waited on me and I went on this weekend having absolutely no idea, I'd never done anything like that, of what would come. And it is as simple as God just like totally changed my life and saved me that weekend. And the huge part of my testimony is, and as both of you know, we grew up with a lot of things

and quite literally anything money could buy you from the amazing trips to whatever I wanted. Just all the things. And I think the reason that weekend hit me so hard was because for the first time in my life, I had found this fulfillment that all of those things were supposed to bring but didn't. And I'm a very passionate person.

And in that moment and during that weekend, it was just like, oh my gosh, like I have been searching for this for so long. And it's so silly, it's like, cause I was so young, but it felt so, just it felt just like how I'm saying it. Like I have been searching for this for so long. And like, this is what I'm like, I do not care. I remember we, I finally made it to the trip and I told everyone, I was like, I do not care. I remember we, I finally made it to the trip

and I told everyone I was like, I do not care if we have another trip this summer, I'm going on our week long missions trip. Like this was the best thing has ever happened to me. And I was going into high school at the time and I remember just feeling like, okay, I have a decision to make if this is something I really want to go all in on.

And my and I talked a bit about this in the car, just of how like, yes, it's a one day decision to follow Jesus in the moment it feels like that, but it really is an everyday decision after that of saying yes to Him. And so I felt like God had me at this crossroads of like, okay, is this actually, are you actually gonna be serious about this?

And I just went into high school and I was like, Lord, I know I'm gonna lose a lot of friends. I know I'm gonna be looked at for not, you know, going the typical route, but you, I know you're worth it. And it was just as blunt as that. Like, I know you're worth it. And like, I just, yes, like you have my yes. And going to high school,

obviously like still made so many mistakes and was just really learning what life with God looked like and lost a lot of friends, but God is so faithful. I mean, every time I would lose friends, he would provide exactly what I needed, whether it was one person. I think sometimes we think that when we start following God, He's gonna provide just this like surplus of community

that we see in other people's lives. And I look back on my story and I'm like, some seasons it was one person and some seasons it was 10 amazing friends. It just looks so different. And so anyways, went through high school and obviously had ups and downs, but just really growing with God

and learning what that looked like. And then I actually finished high school early and did like a program, like a discipleship program sort of thing in Hawaii that really introduced me to the Holy Spirit and just this like new aspect of following God. And I was just even more enamored of like, oh my gosh, like I'm not going to college anymore.

My parents like, you're going for a semester. You're getting your booty there. And if you don't like it, you can go back and do whatever. But I ended up ending up at Pepperdine, which was amazing and such a blessing. And I could share for two more hours up at Pepperdine, which was amazing and such a blessing. And I could share for two more hours of just the whimsical path it's been with God.

I like to say God is like the ultimate spider because the webs he weaves are just crazy. Our lives are just so true. Life with God is just the greatest adventure. So there's been lots of ups and downs. And we were even saying today, we talked for a long time about how just life with God can be really hard at times and really stretching.

And I think that's been a huge part of my journey is just coming face to face with the reality of, yes, this is the greatest thing in the world, but it also does have a lot of sacrifice. And whether that's breaking up with someone or living somewhere that you don't wanna be living or just all these things that comes with following Jesus, but it's always worth it.

That's so beautiful. And so cool too that you had that moment in eighth grade and the, I love how you said that's always worth it. That's so beautiful. And so cool too that like you had that moment in eighth grade and the, I love how you said like, that's how blunt it was, that's how real it was. Then high school, yes, you know, you, we make mistakes because we're human and we're always going to, but like who you said, like that prayer that you said, whatever you said to God,

I was like, that's who I know you to be today. Like that stayed so true about you to today. Like just your love for him, the realness, the excitement, the whimsical is a good word for it. And I remember, I actually remember when I first like started getting to know you and I remember telling Christian, I was like, oh my gosh, like it was so cool to get to have a conversation with Blakely because I remember, you know,

when you go into someone's family, you don't know how they're gonna be and you're not really sure. You're kind of like finding your place and like who you connect with and whatnot. And everyone in your family is so amazing. I have an incredible family, but it was really cool because you were the first like super spiritual

conversation I got into. It was so refreshing and I was like, oh man, this is so fun to talk to Blakely about. Just, I remember, cause I was in the midst of your Hawaii time and like what the Holy Spirit was showing you. And I had just kind of come out of that time of my life where like, I had just really got introduced

to the Holy Spirit and the power of the Spirit and what that looks like. And sometimes that sounds weird to other people, but man, there's so much beauty in it and getting to hear your side. And I just remembered telling Christian, like that was such a cool conversation. Like, can't wait to get to know her more.

And so it's just really cool cause that's how you meet people. Like, I've never seen you shy away from your love for the Lord, but you also have friends in all places, which is just like, I think a testament to you just being so who you are, no matter what room you're in.

And you guys both are like that. And I really mean this. I really, really mean this. I am so blessed that I am your family members. Like, y'all are too, I know, and I really, I wish that there were more words to articulate how deep that really goes for me. Like how y'all are too of the coolest,

and I mean cool in a much broader way than just the term cool kind of encapsulates, encapsulates, I can't say that word. But y'all are such incredible people to know and to be family members with that it's just amazing to get to see you guys thrive on what y'all are doing and then come on the podcast and share them like sheesh I know everybody on the other side of this is like good lord I didn't know that was going to be hit right where I'm at. I haven't even got to one question. But like, it's really fine actually,

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was how to find community after moving, which I think we could talk about in a little bit broader way, because you mentioned sometimes in life it's one friend, sometimes in life it's 10. Talk a little bit about the ebbs and flows of community, because Maya, I know that's probably really a good question for you,

because you're in the minor league season of your life, so moving to new places, not even having a lot of time to even make community. What does that look like? And has the, I don't want to say, I mean, I don't know if I should say the value of community, but the importance of community. How has that shifted in your mindset? Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that is, gosh. So I had friends in college and then Chance and I got married and I was surrounded by a lot of friends before we got married and then Chance and I got married and my husband plays baseball and so we're in the minor leagues, everyone thinks, oh fun, professional baseball. Well the minor leagues, it is so fun. We are so blessed, like 100% so blessed,

but we live six months one place, six months another place and then they could tell you anytime when to move or where to move, so we move a lot. And so our first, we got married, and we first moved to Tampa, and then we moved to West Palm, and then we moved to Delaware, and then we moved next to West Palm,

and then we moved to Delaware, and now we're in Niceville, and we've been married for two years! So it's been fun. And to answer just the question first about how much community has changed and it's important to me, I think whenever you have something,

especially in college, when you're just surrounded by people and then you go and you're like, wow, there is no one around me. Like when we moved to Delaware, I completely did not know a single soul. Like did not know in that whole state. Like I did not know a single soul. Like did not know in that whole state. Like I did not know one.

And that's like so, like it is unique to minor league baseball, all the moving around, but it's very common for post grad. Yes. I've heard so many people talk about that for post grad. Like they're moving to a new place for a job and you don't know anybody. Yeah, you don't know anyone.

And so, I mean, a lot of my friends were kind of in the same boats and whatnot. And so you move somewhere and you're just like, wow, I don't know anyone. And I think that at first, like I was like, oh my friends were kind of in the same boats and whatnot, and so you move somewhere and you're just like, wow, I don't know anyone. And I think that at first, like I was like, oh, this is kind of fun. I get like a lot of alone time, you know, you're kind of like, oh, this, like,

I didn't really get too much in my head about like, oh, I can't make any friends. I was just kind of like, oh, you know what? And then you kind of sit in that isolation a little longer. And then you sit in that little isolation a little bit longer. And then you're like, wow, I have not talked to anyone besides on the phone in like a week, you know, that's my same gender.

Cause you know, I got the baseball friends, but you know, I would like talk to somebody else about something else. And so I think that really, I would say really this past year when we were in Delaware, I really, really just became just so, so much so desiring community. Like I was just thinking about my friends and my family. Like I would literally, I'm not like a super, really just became just so much so desiring community.

Like I was just thinking about my friends and my family. Like I would literally, I'm not like a super like lovey-dovey, which is kind of funny. Like I'm just not like a cuddly lovey-dovey person. And I would just be thinking about like, oh my gosh, I can't wait to be like with my friends and I can't wait to hug them. And I can't wait to like be with my mom.

And I can't wait to like see my sister, my dad, and like my Mimi. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm just so, I just was so, much so, just desiring that because I had just been alone for so long. And so I think it really just made me appreciate the people that I had so much in my life. And I think sitting in that silence, and what is so interesting is I didn't have,

it's not like I moved from there and I had a ton of friends that I left behind. I was in that season and we were there for about six months and there would be some girlfriends that would come and visit, but I really only made probably one or two friends in that entire six months of being in Delaware. And I think what is just, what I really learned in that season was one, the gift of community and the gift it was,

but also the gift of sometimes the Lord allowing you to slow down a little bit and allowing you to have the Lord as your first foremost best friend. Like, I feel like when I'm home, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go run to this, I'm gonna go run to that. And I feel like that season of just kind of like, not having a ton of people to go hang out with really taught me the beauty of God

being like my best friend. And even like it strengthened my marriage just so much. But that was like one of those seasons. But I feel like that was a season and that's never anything someone should stay in for their whole entire life. You know, like I don't say that and that's not your excuse right now.

I'd be like, okay, great. I don't need to have any friends. God be my only friend. It's like, no, no, no, no. Like I still had to call my friends and the beauty of like why you need community is I'd be like, hey, I don't need to have any friends, God can be my only friend. It's like, no, no, no, no, like, I still had to call my friends and the beauty of like why you need community is I'd be like, hey, I'm really struggling with this mindset, like, you know, can you speak truth or me?

Or like, you know, just have a conversation. I had those friends, I can't imagine if I didn't. And then I would say when we lived in West Palm, it was a little bit different because there were so many young people down there and it was so much fun because I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna put myself out there. I was like, I am just gonna DM people

and ask them to come hang out. And what we did, and this is like- And you did that. We did, and I love, and my West Palm girls are listening. I love you so much because they were the best in the entire world. And it was so fun because of how we became friends. It wasn't like, you know, I had this moment

and I saw her in the coffee shop and God said, go speak to her. And then, you know, it wasn't like anything crazy like that. It this moment and I saw her in the coffee shop and God said, go speak to her. And then, you know, it wasn't like anything crazy like that. It was, I was like, hey, do you wanna come to game night? Like I would, I would see some of them be like, hey, like I'm having a game night at my house. Like, do you wanna come?

And I was like, invite whoever you wanna have. And what's so great about games is like a tip. Game night is pro move. It is, it's so because of, it's so helpful for the people who maybe feel awkward. Like I am an extrovert. I love people, but there's something so awkward

when you're just sitting around and you don't know anyone and you're like, man, this is uncomfortable. It's like internal pain. Yes, it is. You're like, oh gosh, I'm kind of sweating right now. Just feeling uncomfortable. And so game night was like the best thing. So we ended up inviting some friends over for game night,

like just people that we didn't know. Like I remember our first month, Chance and I didn't know anybody. We were like, who are we gonna hang out with for Halloween? And we were like, well, we can do a Halloween party. We were like, well, we don't know anyone. So we actually can't do a Halloween party. So then we ended up after that.

Two most social. Yeah, we did no new one. And so it was sweet though, because after that first month, we were like, okay, let's do game nights. Let's invite people to things. Let's just be the invitors. And there's so many people just waiting to be invited.

That's like what I learned. So many people were just waiting to be invited. And so it was sweet, cause people just kept on, like they would invite some of their friends and then they would invite some of their friends. And this was like a really sweet story. We were doing a game night in like our, the little pool area and like the neighborhood apartment pool.

And this guy walks by and he looks at us and I'm like, oh gosh, cause we're doing a big game night. And I was like, I wonder what he's gonna say cause we're not really supposed to have this many people here. And he walks by and then he walks by again. And he kind of like looks at me and I'm like,

hey, nice to meet you, you know, trying to make sure he's not gonna tattletale me. And then he walks back by again and he's like, what are you guys doing? And I'm like, oh, a game night. Like she lives here, we live here, you know, we all. And trying not to get in trouble. And he goes, oh, I just moved from like New Jersey

and y'all, like this seems so fun. Like I'd love to come sometime. And I was like, wow. Like it was just like, and his boldness was so awesome in that moment and just being like, hey, like I would love to come. And you could tell he walked by a few times. And I think just realizing like even having it maybe

in a public space, I know it's kind of like a weird like advice, but you know, there's so many people who just really want to be invited or just really longing for that. And so one, like be the person that, you know, is inviting but then two also don't be afraid to be the person who's like, what are you doing? What like, what are you doing tonight?

Or one of my last little thing about community, but there was this girl, Michaels, I thought was so adorable and so cute. And I was like, gosh, she's awesome. I love to paint. She was getting paint stuff. I was like, and I had just moved to West Palm and I was like, oh my gosh, she is awesome.

Like, you know, starstruck. And I don't even know this girl. And I was like, man, I should like ask her to hang out. And I chickened out. And I think about it all the time whenever I was like, man, I should like ask her to hang out. And I chickened out. And I think about it all the time, whenever I was in West Palm. And I would be like, man, I never saw her again. And I'm like, man, I just wish that I would have been like,

hey, you know, like, and kind of like in that moment, just having those 10 seconds of courage. And for sometimes it's only three seconds that you really need to have. And so maybe that's you right now, and you're just kind of needing to have like that three seconds of courage. You'll regret not.

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My cousin said to me one time, five seconds of awkward will save you from a lifetime of regret. And I think about that all the time. That's me right now. That's so true. It will be a little bit awkward for a second. I think that that's so good.

That's such good advice. I love inviting people to everything because no one's gonna be offended by getting invited. They're offended by not getting invited. That's a really, really way. It's so true. Everyone loves being invited to things. And I think whenever you're a kid,

like you're taught, don't insert yourself. And that's true. You don't invited to things. And I think whenever you're a kid, like you're taught, like don't insert yourself. And that's true. Like you don't invite yourself over to someone else. I was like, they have to invite you. True. I completely agree with that as a child. You should not do that. But as an adult, I think you take that same mindset.

Sometimes like, oh, I don't want to insert myself. Actually, most people as young adults, like want you to come, like you say like, hey, do you want to go to COVID? They'll be like, yeah, I'd love to. They're looking for friends too. And so, yeah, I think sometimes it maybe stems from that because, yeah, as a kid you don't do that,

but as a young adult you kinda need to do that because that's how you make friends, you know? Like someone's gotta put themselves out there in order to get the relationship going. But Game Night is such a good, it's so good, not awkward. And even like doing something around shows. Like, hey, do you want to watch Survivor on Wednesdays? Stuff like that is fun because then you're like talking

about the show and it's not as much awkward, which leads me to last night, Chance told you that we watched The Golden Bachelor. No, oh gosh, you watched it without me. I'm sad, I'm excited to watch this. It was really funny. And he also watched Survivor with us. And he was like,

me and I are gonna watch Survivor now. Like he is so obsessed. And it comes on tonight. So we'll watch it. One of y'all needs to go on that show. It was so funny. Cause like one thing with Chance being on the podcast, I was like,

it probably helped people understand me and Christian's dynamic because me and Christian are so different. But like, if you know Chance, you're like, oh, it makes sense that Christian and like cause me and Chance have more similar energy. So me and Christian, Chance were watching The Golden Bachelor and me and Chance are both crying

and Christian's like, are y'all crying? And Chance is like, I don't know if I could watch this show cause I think I'm gonna cry every week. And Christian's like, are you kidding? It was so funny. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. But those kind of things are always fun because it's something to do

that's not like directly on the person. You don't have to have awkward silence. Great entry. But Blakely, one thing that y'all are actually good at is long distance friendships. And people also ask about long distance friendships. So how do you maintain long distance friendships? You're probably queen of this

because you're like world traveler. Oh, goodness. We were- Keeping up with family too though. Like keeping up with family. You do a great job with that. We were laughing today because I just have to say outright

before I start talking about this. I have recently been not the best at this. High-cats keep you humble because you're like, I know if you're listening to this, the people I haven't responded to are gonna be like, no, she's not. Guys, I have like 800 on runmats. It is horrible. So I am like-

It's like a fact check. You're like, now that the cameras and the lights are on me, let me just preface this by saying- Let me before I say this. No, but all jokes aside, yes, I need to get better at this. However, I feel like this is such a big part of my life because I have friends all over not only the country, but in different countries.

And it's definitely something I feel like over the years, I've had to learn tips and tricks for, and always just leaning on the side of grace over the years, I've had to learn tips and tricks for and always just leaning on the side of grace with other friends with this and just praying that they give me the grace. So if anyone's listening to this that I have not responded to, give me grace. But yeah, I think one of the biggest things with long distance friendships, there's like kind of two sides of the spectrum with this. I think I'll start with this. One of like the best quotes I've ever heard is there's friends for a reason, a season

and a lifetime. And I think when you go from the transition from college to post-grad to just being in your young adult life to I'm sure eventually getting married and having kids. Friends just begin to look so different in your life. And I think I'm in such a season where I'm learning, okay, who do I want to invest in that is not living in the same location as me? Because I only have so much time.

I only have so much emotional capacity to get on the phone and talk for an hour about everything going on in my life and their life. And I think as I've gotten older, I am just, that time has become so much more sacred to me because time feels so much less and less every year. And so I guess that's just one side of the spectrum is like, I am very much so in a season of like,

God, give me the sermon to understand who to invest in and who to put my time in friendship wise, because it's not possible to maintain 20 friendships on the phone. And I'm so hard on myself with that, where I'm like, I'm failing, I'm so quick to, and I know this sounds weird to say, but it's something I'm like really working through.

I'm really quick to give others grace with long distance friendships when they fall short, but when I feel like I've let friends down, it like absolutely eats me alive. So that is where I'm at. But on the other side of it, long distance friendship is not something to shy away from. I have had friendships in the past

where they just go totally A-wire and don't, is that a word? I think that's a word. Is it A-wall? A-wall. A-wire. I like A-wire. I like A-wire, it's not even more hectic.

Yeah. I go A-wire. I'm not gonna look that up after this. I go A-Wire. I like A-Wire, it's not even more hectic. I go A-Wire. I'm not gonna look that up after this. I go AWOL. No, they go AWOL. And I'm like, where are they? I can't get in touch with them. And it's just not possible to maintain friendships

when it's one-sided, first of all. And so I think in order to have really flourishing friendships that are long distance, both people have to be to some extent both willing to put in the time to call and text and even I have friendships where we can go for honestly like weeks and months without really talking. And those are the best friendships when you get back together and you're like, I, we just have this unique ability to pick up right where we left off.

And almost, I think it's the understanding of you're in a really busy season, I'm in a really busy season, I know that your intent would never be to not, you know, be for me or wanna keep up with my life. And so it's just an interesting thing of figuring out. And I heard one time, and this has really served some of my long distance friendships well,

just like really understanding each other's love languages. And I know that sounds silly, but I have some friends that receive letters really well. And like that's something that means a lot to them. Or I have like my sister's so good at like randomly sending flowers. Or like she'll like send cookies randomly. Or I was sick the other day and she sent me like a juice.

And that was really, I felt really, really loved by that. And so I think that's been a huge trick for me that I've learned with long distance friendships of like literally asking, how do you best receive love? Is it quality time? Cause let's get on FaceTime. Is it words of aff?

Cause let me write you a letter. Is it gifts? Cause let me send you a Venmo. Is it acts of service? Let me, you know, whatever. I don't know what that would be. That's intentional friendship at its finest. And I think that everything he says is so good, so true,

so practical. And I would say whenever you have kids, that has to be true, you know, because I think I'm in the space of friendship with long distance friendships that most of my long distance friends, we have kids now. So we all understand we're probably not gonna get on the call because if we did,

it wouldn't even be beneficial because we'd be like, ah, it's all crazy and honey's doing something wild and Haven's screaming and sorry, there's a tantrum pause. Like there's so much of that. And so, yes, still try to call, still try to FaceTime, still text, keep up. But there's such a trust in our friendship, you know?

There's such a grace, you know, that's just naturally extended. There's such a assuming the best, you know? You don't even assume there's something wrong. And especially after you've done so much friendship and life with people that it's like, even like Lainey, Lainey's a great example. She's like been a best friend for a long time now

and we've lived in different places. I don't ever assume there's something bad because I know if there was, she'd call me and tell me. You know, like you trust the person. So if that's the case and you have a friendship like that, you can assume the best. And if there was something wrong, you know your friend would tell you

because they're your friend. And if your friend needs you, then you know they're gonna tell you because they're your friend. And you also know that no matter how busy they are, if I said, I need you, they call you. And so it's just like assuming the best and knowing that you're gonna pick up where you left off.

It's such a gift. We always joke like sometimes when we assume the best and knowing that you're gonna pick up where you left off. It's such a gift. We always joke like sometimes when we assume the best, well, like, this is just like a funny thing. We'll like say what we assume and it'll be really funny. So like one time I was talking about this girl's Instagram, like have you seen what she's been posting? Cause it was like so inappropriate. And my friend was like,

she probably doesn't even run her account anymore. She doesn't even know. She doesn't even know that's being posted about her. Like we're like assume the best. She has no idea. Like she's just naive to the whole thing. She doesn't even know that's being posted about her. We're like, assume the best. She has no idea. She's just naive to the whole thing. And obviously that's like an extreme and more of a joke.

But it's like, don't even let yourself go down the judgmental side or go down the freak out side or the fear side or insecurity side. But if there's someone you're actually worried about, obviously pick up the phone and call them. Have a conversation. But yeah, I think that's such good advice. We literally have way too much to talk about and no time.

I know, I know. And no time for you. We should have said here all day. I know, but it's so good. This is so refreshing and it's something that's relatable to literally everyone. I would think everyone out there is probably trying to navigate community and friendship

and the lack thereof sometimes. And then as women, how do we feel confident and not compete and not compare? And then in life, like following the Lord, like all of the things we've talked about are so richly deep and true about our every single day life that I'm like, I wish we could get to every single question. But anyways, we really could talk for hours

and we probably will off of the podcast. Yes, we will. Because we're all talkers, which is a joy. But y'all are amazing. I mean, I've already said on this podcast once, twice, three times, I'll say it again. You guys are amazing. You're setting the tone for what it looks like

to be godly women. You guys radiate just the joy, the fruit of the Lord, like love, joy, peace, patience, all of it. You guys guys radiate just the joy, the fruit of the Lord, like love, joy, peace, patience, all of it, you guys just radiate it. And I know you all are human, you all are normal, you go through the everyday struggles, but the way that you pursue the Lord is so contagious. It makes people around you want to pursue the Lord more,

makes me want to pursue the Lord more, and it's just a gift. So thank you all for taking the time to literally come all the way here to be in person. We could have done like, you know, virtual, but I'm like, I wanna do it with you all in person because you all are so fun to talk to. So thank you for making space and sharing your stories.

Yes, we are so proud of you and how you encourage just every single person, including all the people listening to us as well. Like that is the sweetest thing to tangibly see that firsthand and to be on the receiving end of that. So you are exactly how you are on this podcast with both of us. And that is the greatest blessing.

So we love you so much. And this is all very real just for anyone listening. That's exactly who she is. Literally. It was like the sweetest thing. We walked into the studio and Maya and Blakely were like, this is so cool. And then Maya hugged me and I'm so high for you.ly were like, this is so cool. And then Maya hugged me and I'm so high and free.

I was like, I'm crying. I was like, it was just so sweet. And just to circle back to what you said about like, it's a real joy to celebrate your sister. And like we literally are sisters, which is such a gift, but like in just sisterhood in general, like to celebrate your sister, when you're so rooted in Christ,

it's an overflowing joy that you have. And the way you looked at me and celebrated me and hugged me literally made me cry, because what a beautiful picture of sisterhood at its finest. And so you guys are the real deal. We love you. Now I'm crying again.

We love you. I'm gonna go.