WHOA That's Good Podcast - It’s Been a Heavy Few Weeks. Let’s Talk About It | Sadie Robertson Huff & Christian Huff
Episode Date: September 29, 2025Sadie presses pause on her maternity leave to pop back into the studio—with Christian—for some real-life updates and encouragement. Hospital visits, sickness, diapers … and that’s just Sadie! ...With kids getting sick too, a newborn in the house, and the chaos of adjusting to a family of five, life already feels like a lot. Add to that trying to process what’s happening in the world, and it can be hard to carry the weight of it all — at home and beyond. “I’m excited for this revival, but I’m exhausted,” is how Sadie felt initially. She shares what it’s like to wonder where she fits in this spiritual warfare, in the fight between good and evil, while still trying to keep her own heart and family intact. “We’re smiling now, but it was a very hard week.” After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, Sadie opens up about her fears, her worries, and what she ultimately had to do to keep going. She and Christian also talk about what hit them most at his memorial service — and why Erika Kirk’s presence (and what she said) was, honestly, next-level inspiring. By the end, Sadie is asking for one thing: uncontainable, invasive faith that spreads into every part of her heart and life - just like a mustard seed! This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://harbor.co/sadie — Get $50 off the Harbor baby monitor when you use code SADIE at checkout! https://gominno.com — Get your first month FREE when you use code WHOA at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today! https://shopbeam.com/sadie — Get up to 35% off PLUS 2 free gifts with code SADIE Chapters: 00:00 So much has happened in the past 2 weeks 03:17 Post-LO Sister Conference 2025 09:34 Adjusting to life with 3 kids 11:36 Watching Charlie Kirk's memorial 14:05 Good & evil & trying to balance it all 24:55 Revival is happening! 29:00 What to do next 37:00 Erika Kirk's faith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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That was cheesing big time.
Thank God I looked in the right place this time.
Anyways, hello everybody.
That was my intro.
I thought we were still.
How do you casually come back after you've been gone for
so long.
Y'all, what a fun time to be listening to Well, that's good.
They've been some solid episodes lately.
Happy Monday to everybody.
I hope you're having a great start to your week.
I hope it gets better from here.
Me and Christian wanted to pop in and do a little podcast.
I'm still on maternity leave.
We'll still have some podcasts coming up that we pre-recorded, that my mom recorded,
and is continuing to record that are so good.
But I really felt like I wanted to come on and talk about just life because so much has
happened in the past two weeks that I kept trying to write an Instagram caption. And I was
like trying to squeeze all of these big thoughts into one little caption. Then I was like,
okay, I'll do a video. Then I'm trying to squeeze all of these big thoughts into one and a half
minutes. And I was like, I literally host a podcast. Why am I doing this? Like, why don't we just talk about it?
So here we are. Here we are doing it and talking about it. So here we are. So I'm actually going to
read the Instagram post that I made this week just to kind of catch you up to speed on
kind of what's been on my heart, the base level. And then we'll talk about just everything
going on in the world and in our home because, man, it's been wild. But this is what I posted
on Instagram. I said I'll keep it short and simple, but I didn't actually keep it that short.
I realized after I wrote it. I said, I'll keep this one short and simple, although I really have a
lot to share about the last two weeks of life. The last two weeks in the world,
and the last two weeks in our home.
My thoughts are going to have to be on a podcast
because Insta can't handle it.
And here we are.
Here we are.
I actually type that before we decided to do it.
That was my accountability to myself.
It's been very overwhelming.
So much good and so much evil.
So much darkness and so much light.
Rock bottoms and revivals all in two weeks
in the world and in our home.
My spirit is excited but also exhausted.
Does anyone else get that?
and I really kind of want to unpack that idea
that my spirit is so excited
but also very exhausted
and I think probably a lot of people feel that way too
so over the last two weeks in our home
the big girls got hand, foot, and mouth
I don't have to read this part,
we'll just tell this part of the story.
What I really wanted to read was that part
that there's been a lot of, yeah, rock bottom moments
and revival moments.
There's been a lot of light,
there's been a lot of darkness,
there's been a lot of good,
there's been a lot of evil in our home
and in the world, and it's very hard sometimes to carry the weight of all of that when the world
is going through so much and your home is going through so much, especially because, like,
we're seeing all this on social media, and then you look up and you're still, like, living in
the moment that you're living in in life. And for us, that's three kids in craziness and sickness
and whatnot. So, yes, excited and exhausted. We'll get to that. But let me catch up to speed in the last two weeks
in our home.
So, you want to start?
It's right after conference.
Yeah, well, there were some stuff that happened before conference, too,
with, like, Rhinovirus and all that kind of stuff.
But, yeah, post-conference, Haven was the first one to get hand-foot and mouth,
and she went down pretty hard.
She did, poor baby.
If you've ever had hand-foot-mouth, that is just...
Yeah, so we tried to kind of quarantine her.
She stayed at Sadie's mom's house for a couple days.
We were scared that Kit was getting it.
And I want Kit to get it.
And it was quasi-successful.
Kit did not get it, but Honey ended up getting it.
So we tried to, you know, quarantine her away, but Honey still came down with it.
And that did not go too, too well.
And then right after they are kind of on the ups of that, you go down with a major, brutal.
Okay, well, first it was so casual.
It was like...
It was never casual.
Well, it seemed like it was going to be casual.
and Christian has since
claimed that I'm the queen of jinx
and I do not receive that for my life
You are the, it's the, it's the
You are the jinxing queen
That's that he's been singing to me
Yeah
Ceddy's the, it's the
Which I don't necessarily know
If I truly believe in jinxing
But I have just seen it firsthand
Almost every time Sadie says something
The reversal of that happens
But you know what I think it is?
I think it's just me being an optimist
person living in a tough world, okay?
Every time I say something positive,
something negative comes at me.
Like literally right after. The opposite of my positivity
hits me in the face. So I don't know
what I think about that either. I think you just need
to be more neutral. Yeah, no.
The glass is always full. Overflowing, baby.
Anyways. No, you went to go see your cousin.
No, no, no. The day before, I took
a nap. That's when it all started. I took a nap. And then I woke up
from the nap and I did not feel right. I was like,
you know what? I'm still really tired.
my head really hurts. Something's off. And so then that night, didn't really eat a lot for dinner.
I was like, something's kind of off. And then I was like, babe, you're going to have to do bedtime.
Like, you're going to have to put the kids too bad because I feel so sick. I just feel so nauseous.
So it's laying down. And then finally, after everybody went to sleep, I finally like, okay, start throwing up.
Everything's not going well. And so I'm like, okay, stomach bug manageable, right?
So I have a summit bug. I had fever throwing up all the things.
Well, then I go to the doctor the next day and test for flu and COVID because I also had, like, body aches, chills, fever, all the stuff.
And thankfully, negative flu and COVID.
And she's like, yeah, I think you just have a horrible stomach bug.
And this is where the queen of jinxing start.
Your response.
I said, oh, yay.
And then she said, yay, like the stomach bug is still not yay.
Like, you're clearly really sick.
I said, yeah, but that's just 24 hours.
At least I'll be done with it today.
that's so where the kicker happened
four days later
yeah so I was like the flu
would be down for a week
something like I'd take it
like brutal for 24 hours
get past it move on
anyways that didn't happen
I kept getting more and more sick
and then by that night
I realized I had mastitis
which if you've ever had mastitis
who is very painful
if you know you know horrible
so I get mastitis
that's really bad
I continue to have fever
and the stomach stuff
just amplify. So it gets to this point, it's like really bad. So the next morning, I text
my doctor again, hey, I'm actually like worse today, ironically, and I have mastitis and all the
stuff. And she's like, okay, you probably need to get a shot. And she was like, I'm going to give
you a shot at like 3 o'clock. Well, I try to make it until 3 o'clock. By 1 o'clock, I was so, so
sick that I was like truly worried about myself. So anyways, called the doctor and they're like,
yeah, you actually need to go to the hospital. Then I called my OB doctor because,
I just had a C-section six weeks ago, and so all that was kind of maybe into the question
and my mastitis. And he said, oh, no, like, I'm omitting you to the hospital. You need to go now.
They're going to have a room for you. All the stuff. So I get to the hospital and things get
way worse, but the drive to the hospital, you were so scared. Well, yeah, because you kept being,
you look like you were about to start passing out. Yeah, it was really bad. So we're on the interstate,
you know, got the hazards on. We're going pretty fast, way above the speed limit.
And, yeah, you're just out of sorts in it, and you're just not...
Yeah, it was really bad.
So then we get there, and I, like, can hardly stand up.
They're like, do you want a wheelchair?
They're like, yes.
Wheeled in the hospital.
So then I get up there anyways.
Things just get bad.
So anyways, that night didn't get better.
Finally, the next morning, they changed my antibiotics, and I got a lot better.
So once I got on two different antibiotics and all the different things and all the fluids,
It's crazy enough, even with all the fluids I had, I still was dehydrated.
That's how crazy it was.
I mean, it wasn't better than X-D.
I mean, it wasn't better, but I was like, it was bad, okay?
It was pretty bad.
So, yeah, I really-
There's many details that we will-
Yeah, we're leaving out for your sake.
You don't need to know.
We're living at many details.
That will never be shared publicly and really not even probably.
That is for whoever happened to be in the room, Christian.
He said he felt like he was taking care of an old person.
I felt like I was at the assisted living, like the assisted care.
It was really, really bad.
And so, yeah, and he kept quoting our vallostomy in sickness and in health for better or for worse, which was comforting, but also that was pretty bad.
Because like the mastitis thing on top of the, which we think it was probably E. coli, honestly, it just was a really bad combination.
And so anyways, that was kind of what's been going on in our life.
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to. There was a million things that I just felt like never ending. Like you could not catch your
breath. Like it just one thing truly after another. And so that's all like happening in our home.
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is so busy. You know, we're still like trying to figure out our routine and bedtime and
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Now on top of that, we're in the hospital.
And, you know, we're watching Charlie Kirk's funeral and we're thinking about all the things that have happened in the past two weeks that have just been so heavy for the world.
Like, obviously, with Charlie being killed, that was devastating.
And you're just seeing this act of evil happen that can just, it was just really eye-opening, you know?
And, you know, everyone's saying we're all Charlie and that's true.
Like, that could happen to any of us, you know, that that is part of counting the cost of Christianity.
and speaking truth and what that looks like.
And so that was just kind of a really sobering moment, I feel like, for us.
That was a really hard couple days in our home watching what was happening and that.
And then the, you know, response from the world and just the mockery and the some of the
most hateful things that you just ever seen.
And so it was just a very eye-opening week.
Yet then, and I'll unpack this because we're throwing out of it.
a lot at one time, but like we're watching this funeral happen. And obviously it's like, whoa,
there's like a revival taking place. Like we are sitting here watching some of the greatest leaders
in our, I mean, the biggest leaders in the world worship God. Um, so that's amazing. And articulate the
gospel and preach the gospel and be unashamed. And you see what Erica did with just boldness and
bravery. And so I sell it to say, like sitting here the past two weeks, trying to understand
what's happening in the world. Oh, and let's not forget to mention everyone thinks the rapture's
going to happen. And so you're on Instagram and it's like, the rapture's happening, today's the day,
tomorrow's today. It didn't happen. But because no one knows the day or the hour. But when everyone
starts talking about it and there's this like anticipation that this might happen and Jesus is coming soon
and this is what you need to do, and this is what you need to do, and we're going full force.
And if you're not on this train, then unfollow me and blah, blah, and everything's just like,
ah, and I'm sitting here just like, I don't even know if I'm, like, going to be able to make it to the bathroom.
You know, like, honestly, like, you're dealing with, like, real life.
Where's my diaper?
Like, I say that to say, like, you're dealing with, like, the mundane annoyances of life and, like, the real reality and gravity of the world.
And that is what I want to talk about on this podcast because I think everybody, maybe not everybody,
but a lot of you probably feel that way.
You're going through your 24-7.
You're having your highs.
You're having your lows.
But at the same time, you're carrying this weight and not even weight in a bad way, but this reality
that, man, there is a spiritual war at hand.
There is a spiritual war at hand.
That's real.
Jesus is coming back.
Is it today, tomorrow?
I don't know.
Could it be a thousand years or not?
Absolutely.
But there is a reality that he's coming back.
And we are in a fight of good versus evil.
And so how do you balance it on?
I'm going to be honest with you.
This podcast is not like I have all the answers.
It's not even that I even know what scriptures I'm going to turn to.
I have a Bible open.
I haven't planned one scripture to turn to or read.
We haven't discussed what we're going to say.
I have three screenshots.
But I just wanted to open.
up the conversation because when I posted on Instagram and on Facebook, many of you said I'm
feeling the same way, you know, like I'm excited for this revival. I'm also exhausted. My kids have
the flu. I have the stomach bug. I'm in college. You know, just I'm, you know, going through
the hard things in my everyday life and trying to ask myself, where do I fit in this revival?
where do I fit in this spiritual warfare in this good versus evil fight?
And hopefully we can unpack a little bit of that for y'all.
Before we start unpacking a little bit of that for you all, I will read one scripture
that I turned to because whenever I got home from the hospital, honestly, I felt so
exhausted and we're laughing now and smiling.
But it was a very hard week.
And I'm normally, like I said, glass half full, overflowing.
I can normally make anything bad sound positive or like pull out a message from it,
kind of push through it.
And I didn't really feel that way in the hospital.
Honestly, like there was a moment Christian came in.
I was just crying.
And he was like, are you okay?
I was like, this is just really hard.
Like, it's just really, really hard.
And I rarely say stuff like that or get that way.
I'm normally like, it's okay.
I'm okay.
God's good, you know.
but I was just like honestly this is really really really hard and I still felt that when I got
home from the hospital and I kept wanting to make an Instagram post and part of the reason I
couldn't make it is because I didn't really have anything super great to say I didn't have a
message spun I didn't have this like great inspiration for what I had just gone through I didn't
have the the words or even the what I felt would even been the right tone to share
yet and I just felt like the Lord was like just sit with me like I'm not asking you to do something like
you don't have to go make some post you know every video I tried to make or post I was just like that's just
not honest that's just actually not how I feel or kind of where I'm at right now and so anyways I sat
down and I opened my Bible and it was amazing because I had worship playing in the background and it
was the song, this is the air. I breathe. It's just like so peaceful. And as soon as I opened my
Bible, I just started crying. And I think it was just because I have been like scrolling Instagram and
like seeing all these other people post such amazing things. Like all of these Christian leaders
were posting like such great things about what's happening in the world and like so many
encouraging things about this revival. And I've been feeling like I need to post that. Like I need to
say something, but yet also, how do I do that whenever I'm hurting right now? And I'm tired
and all this stuff. And so when I sat with the Lord, I was just like, oh, like I just felt like
living water, like so refreshed, wasn't like scrolling and stream trying to like keep up with
this thing. I was just trying to sit with the Lord. And I think that's, that's like a beautiful thing
because I wasn't like, how do I get on board this revival? But like, God, I just actually need
you to revive my soul right now. And I think that's kind of how you carry the weight of like the
world and your home or how do I be a part of this revival in the world and this revival in
my home. It's like you have to be revived first. You know, like to be in the revival, like your
spirit has to be like revived. And that doesn't come from like the pump up of somebody else or
the hype of a situation. Like that comes from living water. That comes from God himself.
And so it just happened to my Bible Psalms 22. And, and,
And it said, why have you forsaken me?
That was like the title.
And I know it sounds like dramatic because God didn't forsake me.
Actually, God was like so kind to me.
The day we were in the hospital, there's like a rainbow over the hospital.
The day we got home, there was like a rainbow over our home.
Like God's presence was so clear.
But also just heaviness, you know.
So I just read it and I just like, wow.
And it starts with saying like, God, why have you forsaken me?
And then verse three, it says yet.
And I love that.
I love when the Psalms say yet.
he's like turning the page.
He's like, yes, this is hard, yet you are still holy.
And then it talks about how Israel, like, trusted in God and he delivered them.
But then this part made me cry because I was holding kit when this happened.
And I had been like, you know, like I said, pumping the whole time I was in the hospital and, like, feeding her.
And that was like a big priority to me, even though it was really hard.
But I just wanted to make sure, like, she was fed with my breast milk because for those who know about like breastfeeding,
there's so much nourishment in that and so many like you know antibodies and all the things she needs
and i've been trying to keep her well and her not sick so i wanted her to get that and um i read this in verse nine
it says yet you are he who took me from the womb you made me trust you at my mother's breast on you
was i cast for my birth and from my mother's womb you have been my god be not far from me for trouble is near
and there is none to help and that just got me because it was like you made me
trust you at my mother's breast. And David is like reflecting on this idea that like when I was an
infant and I could not take care of myself, you established trust in me because every time I was
hungry, I was fed. Every time I needed something, you provided exactly what I needed. And here I am,
like as a mom and through the fight of sickness and through the fight of spiritual warfare and through
the heaviness of life, like, I was going to make sure, no matter what, Kit was fed.
You know, like, that was my main priority.
And in the midst of all that, Kit did not know what was going on.
She didn't know anything other than that.
She had what she needed exactly when she needed it.
And she's well.
And so I just was thinking about that, man, like God's establishing trust in her right now
through even this moment that she's well provided for.
And it just spoke to me so much.
wow, God, you did that for me.
Like, you do that for me.
Like, through it all, you fight to deliver me.
You know, you have already fought to deliver me.
Like, you have everything I need.
Like, I trust you, God.
And then when it says, be not far for me, for trouble is near.
And there is none to help.
I was thinking about how many people in the world feel that way right now.
This lack of hope, like, oh, man, like there's no one to help.
Like, so many bad things are happening.
You're looking at the news every day.
And it's like headline after headline of,
bad news, bad news, bad news, and all this stuff. And it's like, where is our help? Well,
the only help we have comes from the Lord. Like, the only hope we have is in Jesus Christ.
And so, man, that just encouraged me so much. And then I turned the page and at Psalms 23,
the Lord is my shepherd, of course. And it's like, the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. He restores my soul.
And I was just thinking about how I just felt this need to like keep going, like, be a part of
this revival, like be in the moment, like, say the right thing. And it's like, no, actually,
it's okay if you don't have that yet. Like, the Lord could actually lead you to green pastures,
like lead you to the place that you need to lie down because you might need to restore your soul
before you can keep going on this journey. You know, before you can keep walking, you got to have
your soul restored.
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Every word I read, it just spoke directly to me. And it was just such a reminder to me that
in times like this, your word is a lamp into my feet and a light into my path. Like,
that is, that is the thing that's actually going to get me through this. And so that was the
exhausted part of my spirit. But the excited part of my spirit is that I do believe we are
seeing a revival. Christian and I couldn't believe what we were watching.
It was like prayers for years.
Yeah, the memorial service is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.
It really was.
I mean, it was, yeah, I mean, two hours of worship before it even starts, it seemed like longer than two hours, you know, as people were kind of starting to come in.
And, yeah, just the worship from people there, you could just feel it through the screen.
Like, it literally felt like passion conference or it felt like, you know, something like that.
It just was, it seemed like such a holy moment.
And then, yeah, getting to see some of the leaders of our country.
you know, like J.D. Vance or Markerubia,
and even some of the things Tucker Carlson said were just unbelievable.
Just preaching the gospel.
Just preaching the gospel to, I mean,
people are saying 100 million people tuned in on Sunday.
And that's not even to mention those who have watched after
or conversations that have been had from that.
And it's just, yeah, it's just remarkable.
J.D. Vance said,
I haven't spoken this publicly about Jesus Christ.
So I've talked more about Jesus Christ at last,
week and a half and I have my whole public, yeah.
Like just the impact that people had and, um, like that, like that is, it's unbelievable.
And then not even just that, but like what happened from the, uh, memorial service, it seems
like so many people on social media are like sharing more. Um, I've seen like people even doing
videos forgiving, um, people that like killed their family members because Erica modeled such a
beautiful thing. So it's not just like, oh, that was a cool moment. It's like the ripple effect of that
really is revival. And I don't even, I mean, it's not just that. Think about all the things
that have been happening on college campus this year, like unite things and the baptisms, even after
Pep-Ball Phil passed away. I feel like we saw such a revival in people's lives. Like,
there's just been like a lot of public, big revival-like moments, having people like really think
about life and what's after this life and how they want to live their life now. And it seems like
more and more people are actually coming to Jesus. Yeah, and that's the tough thing too.
you know, you can't have a revival without having opposition that's just going to come with
it. You know, like you can't have, like that's what we're saying, right? If Sunday went on,
the revival of Sunday would not have happened if Charlie Kirk would not have been, you know,
killed. So it is a, it's a heaviness. It's just the heaviness of, of, of the fallen world that we
live in and, you know, a life is Christian. I think here in the West, too, we don't really have a
category for suffering. Um, you look at,
at the New Testament, you look at the Old Testament, you know, God's people, you know, suffered.
If you look at the New Testament, you know, take up my, you know, take up your cross and follow
me. And there's persecution, you know, everywhere you look, right, in the New Testament. That's,
and that's the stoning of Stephen, which a lot of people compared the stoning of Stephen to
Charlie, which was cool. They were both 31 when they were martyred for their faith. It truly
becomes a catalyst for a move of God. And it's, you know, it's tragic, it's sad. It's horrible to
watch. But it has been cool to see what God's done in it over the last few weeks.
It's like the true example of what the enemy took for evil. Like he took and made something
good come from it. And yeah, just the impact that that has made has been really cool. And one thing
that I wanted to say about revival, because maybe you're looking at this and you're like, okay, where do
fit in revival, you know? Maybe you're like, okay, that's for the church leaders or that's for this
person to do or that person to do. But how am I a part of it? And I think when a nation is like
revive it, it's that it's a nation. It's everybody. Like we're all a part of this. And that's what I
really wanted to say to everyone on here is that like if you're looking at this and just scrolling
through it, don't just scroll through it and scroll past it. Like realize something, you can be a part
of it. It starts with a revived spirit like I said. And
how to really revive your spirits to give your life to Jesus Christ.
So if you're listening to this and you're like, okay, I am so interested in this spiritual
thing happening in our country, but I don't know what this means and I don't know what this
is.
Essentially, if you know John 316, that is like, that's kind of like the base of why we all get
to be a part of this revival for God, the God of the universe, love the world so much
that he sent his one and only son, Jesus Christ.
to die on the cross for our sins.
And if you believe that, and if you actually believe Jesus Christ came and died for your sins
and you won't perish, you'll have eternal life.
If you believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins, went back to heaven, and one day
he's going to come back and get you, then one, if you believe that in your heart and confess
that with your mouth, you can be saved and realize, like, you're a part of this.
Like, you're a child of God.
You had a savior who died for you.
He went back to heaven and then talk about the rapture.
One day, he's coming back.
you're a part of that. And what does it look like now? What do you do with that? Well, the Lord
says the greatest, Jesus says the greatest command is to love the Lord your God with all your heart,
soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself. He also gives us the greatest,
I mean, the great commission at the end of Matthew and he says, go make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them and then by the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey my commands
until the end. And so I think in the simplest form, what do you do with all this? You love the Lord of
God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. When you love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and
strength, it's going to change the way you live your life. It's going to change the way you talk to
people, the way you look at people, the way you post, the way you write captions, the way that you
walk into a restaurant, the way that you go about your school life, the way that you parent your
kids. And then if you love your neighbor as yourself, you're going to start changing the world
because you're going to love those people around you.
It's going to change their life.
You're going to invite them into this revival.
And then three, you go make disciples.
You teach people about Jesus.
You read this word and you don't just read it and meditate on it.
You let it flow out of you and you teach other people.
And that's not, that's, Jesus didn't say, to all the pastors, love Lord,
your God, our heart, soul, mind, restraint, to all the pastors, love your neighbor yourself.
To every pastor out there, go make disciples.
No, he said that to everybody.
That was his command to everybody.
That was a broad command to everyone who's following him.
And so I think to simplify what it means, what do you do?
Because I think so much of it, we're like, what do I do with the rapture?
What do I do with this revival?
Like, he says what to do.
And it's really as simple as that.
And I think one thing Charlie Kirk did really well is he loved the Lord,
who's got with all his heart, soul, mind, and stream.
He loved his neighbor.
He loved his family.
So, so beautiful.
and he also made disciples, you know, he went out, he taught people the word, he unpacked things,
he sat with people who were different than him, he reclined at the table with sinners, if you
will, and he spoke truth, but, and that is what impacts other people. That's what, when we're
all looking at Charlie Kirk, we're like, okay, why did his life leave such a mark? It wasn't just
what he said. It was how he lived, you know, how he lived, loving God, loving his family,
family love and his neighbor.
Yeah.
I think the thing that was so cool about Charlie was that, yeah, he really could have dialogue
with anybody and everybody, people that were different than him that had different beliefs
than him.
I mean, it would be really hard for me to have a, like a level-headed, honest conversation
with someone if I knew that they hated me.
You know, like, I just, I could, sometimes it's hard enough to have conversations with people
that, you know, think the same thing as you do, but.
They're just maybe being mean or something like that.
We're just like one disagree.
I feel like sometimes, yeah, but like talking to another believer and you'll differ on something.
It can be like annoying.
But like having a open dialogue conversation with someone that hates me and like can't stand me.
Like there's so much grace in that and there's so much, I mean, humility in that, you know?
And some of the conversations that he had with people that were different.
than him and that couldn't stand him, it really challenges me to, yeah, to not be so comfortable.
I think sometimes we just love being comfortable.
We want to, you know, talk to people who think the same way we do.
We only want to spend time with people that, you know, that agree with our beliefs.
And I think something he modeled really well, which is honestly what Jesus did was, yeah,
reclining at the table with task collectors and centers.
You look at Zacchaeus.
You look at all the people that Jesus hung out with.
And all the Pharisees and everyone were so confused why he was hanging out with these people.
And then Jesus was accused of being a glutton and a drunkard just because he spent time with these people.
And I think that's what's really cool about Charlie in his life was that he made space and he reasoned with people, which is what Paul did in the synagogues in Athens.
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And I think that was really what Charlie did.
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I think one thing about the funeral that was very convicting to me, I told Christian, I was so inspired by the memorial service for so many reasons.
but I also left like convicted in my own faith and I was like okay this is a man who I didn't realize like his security team and police would literally tell him before he went out at times like we cannot ensure your safety you know and then he would still go and to be honest like that has been a really big fear for me like public speaking is scary and not for the reasons that a lot of people are scared because you're scared to give a speech I am personally scared because of security reasons and I've been that way for a
very long time. And so I have to really like work through my fear for those things and always like
check the safety boxes and all the different things. And the fact that he would go anyways, even
without saying that, just really speaks to like how much he believes it. But then on another level,
what really spoke to me is how like Erica, who is a mom to two kids, who just lost her husband,
who has every reason in the world to not walk out on that public stage when she stepped in there.
Like just knowing what she's gone through, her husband just passed away.
She has little kids.
She 100% did not have to go up on that stage.
And she also did not have to be the CEO of the company.
I think if it were me, I would feel so much fear in that moment knowing like my husband
just died because of this.
Like so much is crazy.
Like I'm just going to stay home, be with my kids.
Like we're going to go hide.
We're going to go like be protected.
And honestly, everyone in the world would be like, that's great.
Like absolutely do that.
like just be just be still be quiet be with your family um that would have been the tendency i would
have probably wanted to have is like to just like just hide honestly out of fear um but the lord clearly
is called her to something the lord clearly has put this spirit in her in this determination this
drive and uh the fact that she's saying yes to that was such a act of faith and bravery it like took
my breath away i was like wow and i just asked myself like would i be
able to do that. Like, would I have enough faith to do that? And I was just thinking, like, how
if you're going to really follow God, whenever Jesus says, like, pick up your cross and follow
me, the magnitude of those words and why really struck the disciples at the time is, like,
when he says pick up your cross, they know what crucifixion is. Like, they had to see that.
People go through that. And so they know when he's saying that, that means, like, you might
die for this. You know, like, you actually might die for this. You're going to have to pick up
your cross and follow me. And I think in my life, I have to ask myself that question. Like,
am I dying to myself? Am I willing to pick up my cross and follow him? Because even in the
smallest things, I just be honest, this morning, I went and I picked up some muffins for our team.
And as I was leaving, I saw this homeless person. And I felt the Lord say, give them a muffin.
and honestly like the first thing I thought was like no because that's scary like that's risky like
what if they you know have because you know people say like they might have a weapon or whatever
and normally like if I'm not with you I get kind of scared of that kind of stuff and I was like
this is ridiculous if I cannot stop the car and give this person a muffin then like what does it like
where is my faith like what what where is loving my neighbor like I'm not I'm gonna let fear that
something might happen keep me from like doing something the Lord just asked me to do
loving my neighbor. So I stopped, rolled down the window. I was like, hi, do you want to love for it?
They're like, yes. And I give them my love. And I'm like, God bless you. And then they're like,
God bless you. And it was so sweet. And I'm just like, okay, God, keep giving me moments like that
and simple obedience to like just strengthen my faith. One thing I posted on Instagram recently,
I just like can't stop thinking about is the mustard seed revelation. I have to read this to y'all
because it really is so cool.
My friend texted me and she was like,
have you ever heard of what a mustard seed really is,
like the real meaning of it?
And I was like, I mean, I guess not
because I've heard people talk about the mustard seed all the time.
But I mean, nothing like that crazy besides like the smallest seed
and it can grow into big tree and all stuff.
Plains deep roots.
But this is so cool.
So it was like this thing on Instagram and it said,
we have been told the meaning of this verse wrong. I just learned the true meaning of what a mustard
seed means. And so it goes through Matthew 17. A desperate father brings his son, who's tormented with
sickness, seizures falling into fire and water. The disciples try to cast it out, but they fail.
Jesus rebute the spirit and heals the boy instantly. The disciples asked, why were we unsuccessful?
And Jesus's answer is eye opening. He says, because of your unbelief, if you have faith as a
grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain move, and it will move. And nothing will be
impossible for you. But his disciples had faith. They had been walking with him. They saw miracles. So why was
their faith not enough? And why would Jesus say faith like a mustard seed if that only meant a tiny
amount of faith when he just said, you don't have enough? So this is where something always felt off
about this as it was explained to me. The person said, she said, we've always heard even the tiniest faith
is enough. Just little faith is enough to move a mountain. But the Bible never says small like a mustard
seed. It says faith as a mustard seed, and there's a big difference. If the disciples
already had some faith, then why did Jesus say that's still not enough faith? This is why
this verse confused me until I found out what the mustard seed truly is. In the first century,
the mustard plant was invasive. Once it took root in the garden, it spread fast. It crowded out
and destroyed other plants. It dominated the soil until it owned the whole field. It was feared by
farmers because it couldn't be controlled. It became massive and it was impossible to get rid of.
So when Jesus spoke and said have faith as a mustard seed, his listeners at the time did not hear
tiny. They thought uncontainable, invasive, dominating, and unstoppable. This is the kind of faith
Jesus was pointing to, not just fragile or small. Once planted, it spreads into every part of your
life. It is unshakable and unwavering. It does not politely coexist with fear and
doubt. I needed that. It overtakes uproots and destroys lies and systems of this world. It takes
full authority and establishes God's kingdom. This is not tiny faith. That is aggressive, consuming,
crazy mountain moving faith. Y'all, that got me fired up. I was like, Lord, give me faith like a
mustard seed, because that is so, that is so what I need in my life. I feel like so often,
And, like, I have faith, obviously, like, I preach the gospel everywhere.
I love Jesus.
I'm always telling people about Jesus.
But, like, there are parts of my life.
Like I said, this morning when I'm like, go get that person a muffin, where it's like fears
like, oh, but what if something happens?
Or it's like, hey, go speak here.
Oh, but what if something happens?
And I don't want to leave this and blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, no, God, give me, like, uncontainable, like invasive faith that truly spreads
into every single part of my heart and in my life to know that you really are who you say
you are, you've called me to what you've called me to, and the Holy Spirit resides in me,
and I truly do believe in the hope of heaven. And I was just thinking about that when I saw
Erica, I was like, that is mustard seed faith. That's all consuming your whole life for the
gospel. Yeah, that's so good.
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i mean her her response was i mean it was it was incredible it truly was convicting and i think that's the thing too
you know you think about you think about charler kirk in his life and whether you loved what he'd do whatever
he was doing or you disagreed with him or whatever because that truly never i posted this on
instagram after he had passed away i had never really watched his stuff i didn't know before
until like yeah i mean i i'd seen his stuff on social media and i just i never really just took the time
to kind of watch it um but since he passed i've just been so intrigued with it and i've watched so much
of his stuff and just the things he was doing was was unbelievable and that's what i'm saying too
whether you disagree with it or whether you you know you you you didn't love his style or whatever
the man was 31 years old and he his memorial his funeral was watched by over a hundred million people
and they all heard the gospel and i just think that it's so like it's just mind-blowing to think about
someone who was 31 did all the things that he did his wife forgave the person who assassinated him
in a public event and that message
of the gospel is heard her forgiveness is seen modeled by a hundred million people like just
I think I don't know I think sometimes it can just be like it was really cool but if you
actually think about that it's insane did you see Jimmy Kimmel's response him like crying
talking about how powerful that was I was just thinking about that like you know we're so
quick to be like even with someone like Jimmy Kimmel who showed up canceled you know because
of what he said, and it's so easy to, as a believer, I'd be like, you know, like, oh, yeah, like, justice for that,
whatever. And yes, justice, but also, like, do we also believe for him, you know, to, that God can
actually move in his heart and that the Lord, that he would be repentant and that the Lord would
forgive him and that he would, he would also be revived in a part of this revival and come to know the
Lord. And it's like, can we rejoice in the fact that God's moving in his heart, you know? I feel like
so often it's like oh did you like charlie did you not did you do you like jimmie kimball do not and it's
like hey we're talking kingdom you know we're talking kingdom work yeah and i think too since his
since his passing you truly have seen light and darkness right you truly have seen people
that have mourned the loss that have celebrated the funeral and that i've openly talking about
but then you've also seen people who have celebrated his death and made a mockery of it and it's it's
so blatantly demonic and evil that I think we're at a time where the scriptures is that people
love the darkness more than the light. And I think you really are we're out of crux in
history where you truly do see light and darkness. And as a believer, you know, as a follower of
Jesus, walk in the light as he is in the light. We have no part of darkness. We cannot take any
part in the, you know, the Bible says that we wrestle against, we don't, we don't,
we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the principalities. And I just feel like
you've seen that so evident the past few weeks of just, of just darkness and just demonic
spirits and, and, and as believers, you, you can have no part in that. You, you, we are in a
kingdom, we were a part of the kingdom of light. And first John one talks about walking the
the light as he is in the light. Are you pulling out first on one?
No, he did. Wow. All right, read it. Same page. You were talking about that. I was like,
that's good. I do think when we're speaking to like the times we're in and you ask yourself,
like, what can I do? You know, I talked about what to do to, you know, come to know the Lord,
what to do with the fact that we're in Bible, love God, love your neighbor, make disciples.
I think what you cannot do is be lukewarm. Yeah. I mean, lukewarm's out. Like,
Lukeworm's always been out newsflashes in the Bible.
Bible says, and it's pretty harsh when it talks about Lukeworm Christianity, but I think for
whatever reason, we coexisted with Luke born for a long time in our country. Like, we don't want
to ruffle any feathers. You don't want to, it's like, no, actually, there is really a battle
of good versus evil, light versus darkness. And there's not that middle space. Like, it's,
you're all in, you know, you got to be all in. You didn't do much of school growing up, but, you know,
You know, like the...
Boom, roasted.
Which I say that, but then, is it, is it a Venn diagram where it's like the, it's like the two circles and then like the overlap in the middle?
Oh, yeah.
Is that called the Vid diagram?
Okay, Vend diagram.
Well, like, in the Venn, you know...
Fair point.
Thank you.
Well, I'm saying the Venn diagram in the middle part, in the middle part, that was kind of where the lukewarm, you have, you know, light, darkness, you have, you know, flesh, the spirit.
But now it's like they're so, it's just separated now.
There's no middle ground.
There's no gray area.
It's black and white.
It's just you can have anything to do with it.
And I actually posted First John after his passing, too, not only just First John one,
but I encourage everyone listening after this podcast.
Go read the whole book of First John.
It is just, it's so prevalent to the times that we're living in.
First John 1.5 says this.
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaimed to you that God is light.
And in him, there is no darkness at all.
If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk.
in darkness, we lie and we do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as he is in the
light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus, his son cleanses us from all of our
sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our
sin, he is faithful and just to forgive us of our unrighteousness. If we say we have not sin,
we make him a liar and his word is not in us. So just to unpack that just a little bit,
what God is saying is
what John is saying
in first John here is like God is light
and so if we're in him
we can't have any darkness
at all because we got to walk with light
but then you ask yourself
well how could I possibly do that
because I'm human and he's a holy God
well answers that because the blood of Jesus
cleanses you of all your unrighteousness
and making you able to be
in relationship with God so you don't have to
lie and say I don't have sin
or you don't even have to feel shame and say well because I have
sin. I can't walk in the light. No, you're human. You're going to have sin. Roman says for all of sin and
fallen short of the glory of God. So it's not that you have to be perfect, but you have to come under the
blood of Jesus Christ. So you got to repent. You got to repent before Jesus. You got to confess your
sin. And then when you do, the Lord cleanses you of all your unrighteousness and you're able to walk in
the light as he is in the light. And so, yeah, you actually can fully walk in the light of Christ.
We don't have anything to do with the darkness.
We repent and we turn.
You know, there's that verse that people have been posting.
It's like if your nation, what is it, repent.
Second Chronicles.
And turns to me, I will heal their land and that kind of stuff.
And a lot of this really does start with repentance.
You know, it's coming to Jesus and saying, like, I have sinned.
I have fallen short.
I need your blood, Jesus.
Help me to walk in the light as you were in the light.
rid me of all darkness. Don't let me live in the darkness. Confess that to someone else.
And then walk in the freedom of the light. Man, that is an invitation for every single person
out there. And so, you know, I think to wrap this up, there's so much going on in the world,
and there's so much going on in your home and in your life. And I think hopefully what we have
modeled is what it looks like to just have a conversation about it all. I don't
think you're meant to just like wrestle with these big thoughts in your mind. I also don't think
you're meant to numb them. I don't think you're just supposed to ignore them. I think that they
have to get out. For me, I'm going to be honest, like there was a day where I just felt the Lord
kind of put on my, I don't even make it even sound like spiritual. I knew for me, I did not need
a look on Instagram that day because my soul felt weary and felt heavy and felt that burden to
like do something or produce something. And so I was like, okay, resist it. Like resist that.
turn to the word and that's where I you know felt fed and so don't just keep numbing it don't just
keep scrolling don't just keep you know living in panic living in fear don't keep living in sin certainly
not like go talk to somebody confess sin go talk to somebody talk about your fears get in the word
read the Bible if you don't know what it says or understand it get with a pastor plug yourself into a
church um this is not the time to be numb this is not the time to be lukewarm this is the time to
lean in. And like I said, it's okay if you're exhausted. You can lean in exhausted. And it's
awesome if you're excited. Lean in excited. We get to be a part of history right now, y'all. That is
very, very exciting to be a part of. We are, like I said, a part of a revival. And we're seeing
things that no one I don't think has ever seen before. I mean, to mama, my grandma, she was like,
I've never seen like anything like what we just witnessed.
watching that memorial with the leaders of our country, speaking the name of Jesus Christ and
preaching the gospel. She's like, this is crazy. And it's really cool when you have generations,
you know, around you who are 72, even 94 Memo Joe and going, this is cool. Like, of all the
decades I've lived, there's something here. It's hard. It's real. It's a fight. But God is on
the move. And as a believer, we have anchored hope. And so I hope this encourages you.
I hope we can kickstart the conversation for you guys as you're walking into it and let us know
your thoughts below if this encouraged you. We'd love to know. That's good. And last thing I'll say
too, you don't have to have everything all together, your thoughts together, everything all
polished. I think this is a testament to that. You don't have to have the answers to everything or
have everything buttoned up perfectly, but just start the conversation. Yeah, talk to mentors,
talk to friends and just have the open dialogue like what charlie did honestly so don't think you
have to have it all together or you have to have all your points polished to start the conversation
just start talking about things that are bothering you uh things that you're confused about and
grieving and have the conversation to start there's great
You know,