WHOA That's Good Podcast - Live From Love

Episode Date: August 19, 2020

This week, Sadie welcomes Franni Cash Cain of the band, We The Kingdom, which recently released their debut album, Holy Water. Listen in as Sadie and Franni discuss marriage and the quest to find "the one", how to overcome gossip, and how to navigate friendships while in a season of dating. You can learn more about We The Kingdom at www.wethekingdom.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up? Well, that's good. FAM. Y'all, this is a very special episode. Clearly, because I'm actually in person with our guests and we have an amazing guest today. If you don't know her, this is franny. Is your last name still cash? It's Kane now. That's like so similar. I know only two little change. That's awesome. So, franny, Kane, use to be franny K-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- I love it so much. What's the name of the album? Thank you for listening. It's called Holy Waterway. Okay, I wasn't I was like you might get a butcher this because I love the song so much That's like my favorite song in the album. They're all great But that is the album name for a good reason so I'm gonna go check that out and this episode is gonna be also a little bit different It's so fun because I actually have somebody to answer the DMs with me So a lot of times we go through the DMs you send on the world that's good podcast Instagram page and today it will be answering them

but it will be a franny so we have some more wisdom and fun over here. But first because it is the world that's good podcast and you've never been on it. What is the best piece of advice that you've ever been given? Oh it's so hard because I've been given so much good advice and I was kind of thinking through this, because I love your podcast, and I love the asset question. And one of my friends, one time told me, she's a dear friend and a dear mentor of mine,

but she told me to live from love and not for love. That's great. And I love that because I think when you live like you're loved by God and everything out of that, just there's a beautiful flow from that. You're not trying to earn as a privilege, you're not trying to earn as a fraction. It, you're not trying to earn as a affection. It doesn't matter the good or the bad things that you do.

It just matters that you're loved. And I think, yeah, everything is sweeter from that place. That's so good. Your motivations are pure, I think. I love that. I'm still trying to learn what that means in every moment to live from the secure place of knowing that God loves me, but it's so cool. I love it.

It takes out that desperation. I feel like, you know how we joke, we're like, girl, you thirsty, but really like, we're very, very desperate for that love. And Emma Lewis, sister said this other day, I thought it was genius. She's 17, but she should be like 45, because she's so smart.

But these girls were talking to her about relationships. And she was like, yeah, like I've been in some really bad relationships and then they said, oh, and then you met Jacob, which is her boyfriend now. And she said, no, then I met Jesus. And I was like, come on, Bella. And she was like, because how about not met Jesus, then I wouldn't have a relationship with Jacob. And I think that's kind of just like goes along with what you're saying is that when we live in that place It's like we know love. We've met love You know, then you can walk into love in other ways whether it's a boyfriend

Your husband your Friendships or anything so I love that one a great way to kick this off But people sent in some great deems, and I know you recently got married. We talked about the name change So somebody asked a question about that. They said, I've recently been struggling with the idea of the one. How do you know when your husband was the one for you? Do you think that God handpicks the one that you're supposed to be with for the rest of your life?

Wow. That's a great question. I don't think that there's one person for you. I think that if that was the case, we would have all messed it up. By now, I do think that there's a person and there are people that you can be more compatible with. At least for me, with my story, I started dating Austin a little over year and a half ago. And I had so much anxiety at the beginning of it. I just, I just gone out of a relationship that it ended okay. Just wasn't the person that I felt like I was

supposed to marry. So I was still trying to recover from that and didn't want to have my heart broken again and all that. So I had a lot of anxiety with Austin and I think I felt that fear of having a relationship fail. I took that as God saying no and he's not the one out of that. So it really sent me into a long process with the Lord where I was just really confused. And I think I would get discouraged when I heard other people be like, oh, I knew two weeks in. And I was like, I was five months in. And I didn't.

I still didn't know, but I kept praying and being like, Lord, I literally will break up at any moment. If it's not the person that, that I'm supposed to marry is if it's not the right time, if my heart's not in the right place, whatever it is. And eventually, like, I definitely had that moment where I just had so much peace, so much confidence that he was the person that I was supposed to marry. I do think though that if I had married someone else who loved the Lord, and I think I would bless that, but I definitely think it's good to wait for his direction and through prayer and all that. So that's great.

I love that. I actually 100% agree with you because I think if we put the pressure on ourselves that it's just one person We like view it as like this treasure hunt like we had to find the one person and how you can find the one person Of seven-born people like the Lord is gonna lead us to those people But there are the one if whenever they're compatible with what God's doing in your life. Right. And they're pushing you forward. And, you know, in Genesis, it's a very simple thing of talking about the one. It's like, God's like, I'm going to create a helper for you because it's not good for me and to be alone.

Right. So I'd think about that. Like, is the person helping you? Is it good for you? Is it a good relationship? Are you better with them? Right. Are you running towards your God's eyes, dreams?

And I was the same with Christian. Like, when we started dating, we took it slow at the beginning. Really slow, because he was my sister's friend. And I was like, he's my sister's friend, you know? And so I was like, I don't know if I can see this, but I thought he was so cute. And I thought he was awesome. So we just kept talking, kept talking, kept talking.

And then I was the same way I was like, Lord, this is not the relationship that you have for me. Like I would give it up in a heartbeat. And even though I'm starting to love him, I love you more. Like again, like from love, like I love you more. I don't want to do anything that's gonna separate me from you, God.

I want something that's gonna bring me even closer to you. And then I started realizing like Christian really was bringing me closer to him. I was so much stronger, I was so much more confident. And I think that's when you know like, okay, this person could very well be the one. All right, so we have so many great questions. Somebody says, how do you keep your friends close while you're in a relationship? And I want to ask you this because I kind of struggle with this and my friends and I had so many conversations about this.

But when you start dating, you're like, it's so hard to navigate, but what did that look like for you? Most of my closest friends are long distance. They were in college or in different parts of the world. And so that made it even more challenging, I think. But I think it is really important to try, at least in the first half of your dating, the first part of dating. I think it's really important to really have your girls.

Talk to them, to call them, to tell them what's up, tell them what's going on, how you feel about him. Because even it was so sweet at our wedding, a couple of my best friends who had really been filling in on all the deep, my the process of how I fell in love with Austin, they got to talk about that at the wedding. You know, I remember this stage, this stage, and I just think that's such a gift to have people

that get to see and be a part of your journey. I do think there's a transition that needs to happen towards engagement and to marriage where you definitely have your husband be the first person. So true. But even then, I think when I go spend time with my girls and with my friends, with my band, with my people,

then it's awesome to come back. And I feel even more like full for awesome. You know, I'm like, so I think it's important to even when you're married, have your people and spend time with those other people. But I mean, I love doing everything with awesome, so it's hard. So true. No, I feel the same way and it's funny because like when you do go do whatever, like go hang out with your friends or even he goes and hangs out with his friends. It's so fun when you come out together, especially when you're married.

Because you have like fresh content. She likes so what happened, you know? It's the best. It makes you like fall in love all over again. It's so true. I was just going to tell you. So true, because when you're with your friends, when you're with your husband, you're like this too, like you're, you know, you're yourself, you're goofy, you're crazy.

But when you're with, like your friends, it's like this other level of like untapped craziness that, and then you go back and you're like so that high. Totally. That's awesome. I love it. But yeah, for me and my friends, we'd navigated that a little bit. Like Laney and I, best friends, and she and I had always prayed that we'd meet our

husbands at the same time. And it was so cool because literally on me and Christian's first day, Laney came because it was like a group thing. Sarah Grisley, all of our friends like came. We went to a loop Brian concert and Christian was there. And Laney was like mad at me. I didn't know until later because she was so mad that I was going to date before she had a date because she was like, we said,

we were going to have the same time. And I'm like, girl, sorry, like I am out the Lord. I cannot like make this happen. And who knows if she's my husband. So this whole talk. So while we're there, I don't she? She's my husband. So this whole talk. So while we're there, and I was there, she knew. So while we're there, she goes,

I'm gonna go scout out my options. She walks over and like, Ler is so dramatic. It goes to scout and she goes, he's pretty cute. And I was like, you think he's cute? And my mom was there. So I was like, you think he's cute. She's like, that's my friends. Like, nephew, I'm gonna go to Todd's

and let me introduce you all. And Leroy is like, no, no. So she does. Sure enough, that's Clayton like nephew. I'm gonna go Todd's and let me introduce y'all And then he's like no, so she does sure enough. That's Clayton who Laney married to After me and Christian got married. Yes, so they met on our birthday got engaged two weeks after us got married two weeks after us So I mean literally at the same time For that is yes, and I said just say like Laney like we joke about her be mad But she actually really was mad and it's like funny because you know we can't see the full picture that God has right so sometimes like we get frustrated And we take that out on our friends But like if you just like move that to prayer like wait and see what God is gonna do

We can see how like this beautiful story for us and it's funny because like now we laugh at Laney being mad But I mean God just had this epic plan and that's not always, God's plan is gonna be different for everybody, isn't it? We need you're gonna meet your guy two weeks after your best friend, you know, that doesn't always happen. And there were hard things that me and Lany had to navigate

through that were totally different than that. But I say to say, like if that's you, hang on for a little bit. I'm just trust God in the process. He writes great stories. He really does. He really does. He loves stories.

He's really good at it. He's so good. Thinking back to when you were single, because I know we have a lot of single ladies out there. I see a guy's too watching. What are some of those prayers that you pray in the time and what do that time look like for you whenever you were single?

I honestly, I loved being single. I really did because I think that God does write beautiful love stories with a man and a woman, but he writes even better love stories with himself. That's awesome. And I mean, I could cry thinking about it. God really drew me so close to his heart and loved on me so much during that time

where it was like, just us. And it was so special. Like, I remember, I went I've heard of why I went so I did why when and during my time there I just experienced so much closeness to the Lord and obviously not every season of my life has felt like that there've been some really really hard seasons but that one in particular was a season where I felt God pursuing my heart and calling me away with him and like come away my beloved let me talk to you and and that time was so beautiful I just I remember where I felt God pursuing my heart and calling me away with him. And like, come away my beloved. Let me talk to you.

And that time was so beautiful. I just, I remember getting this ring where I would like, every time I looked at it, I would think of the Lord. And it was, it was really sweet. So it was just a time for that. And then one of my friends was like, you can go on dates with God. And I was like, no, like, because I'm Jesus. It's not just our boyfriend.

He's a reverent, high, and amazing. He's a God of all creation. He's Jesus the Savior of the world. He's a reverent, high, and amazing. He's a God of all creation. He's Jesus the Savior of the world. He's so much, but he is our lover. And so being able to go on days with the Lord and like read my Bible or pray or whatever, it was like so rich. I took a trip by myself one time

and by myself I was like, bringing the whole time. And it was amazing. And I think like, I actually never, I didn't know if I was gonna get married and to know if I wanted to be married. I didn't know if that was what God had for me. So I never really prayed like, for my future husband.

Which I probably should have now, but God, he covered. No worries. So, yeah, you're back. I never really prayed for that. I really just like, think that that time of falling in love with Jesus was what prepared my heart for marriage.

And I was even thinking about this morning, I was like, I've been, and obviously there've been crazy seasons, but I've loved the Lord for a while. And so it's been like, we've had a way longer relationship than Austin and I ever were. That's kind of nice to be like.

We've been together for way longer than you. You know? We've been together like 23 years. Yeah, that's all. That's all right. But it was sweet, so I think, yeah, I mean God wants to love on you. I love that. You know we've been together like 23 years But it was it's sweet. So I think yeah, I mean god wants to love on you. I love that. I love it It's really good at it. So that's great. I love it. I was awesome What was your no, hey, I woke up there. I love it. I like your vibe fire because I'm like no I need to think about this you know whenever I was single I will say I made the mistake of constantly

trying to just have a guy in my life, have a boy in my life. And when I look back, I'm like, why did I do that? You know, why did I do that? Like, I was just totally dating today, dating because it was nice to have somebody there, nice to have somebody around, but hindsight 2020, that ended up hurting me a lot.

You know, like, there was just more hurt and time that I could have spent just myself with the Lord. Now again, God covered me and he's so good. And throughout the whole time, I felt like I was deep in my relationship with the Lord, but at the same time, I was distracting myself with other guys.

And so I had moments of single pockets. And you know what, it's crazy. I love them. And I was saying, like, it was so good. And it was so good for my worship at the Lord. But then I kept going back into that lure of like wanting a boyfriend. And so I think when I met Christian, the amazing thing is the day before I met him, I told my friends because I knew I was on the cycle.

Like everybody saw it. I kept dating guy after guy after guy. I said my friends, because I knew I was on the cycle. Like everybody saw it. I kept dating guy, I forgot after guy. I said, you know what? I'm done with this. I broke up with this guy. I was like, I'm done with this. I'm like, I'm not dating anybody for like at least till the end of the year.

It was in July. I was like, give myself six months. I was like, I am stopping this pattern. All this stuff. And my friend was like, okay, I'm recording you say this. It was actually Lany Staring Gracie. So I turned on the recorder.

And I'm like, this is St. Rob. this. It was actually Lani Sarah and Gracie. So I turned on the recorder and I'm like, this is St. Rob, I'm done dating until the end of this year on the stuff. And the next day, I was at the beach and I saw Chris Merch. Yes, and I was like, dang it, I immediately was like, why did I make that video? But I knew, because my pride was in the way, pride was saving me this time.

And I looked at them at first I said delete the video and then lady was like no, she's like you do not do not do not leave So I was like okay, I will not talk to him. I will avoid him So I sent the home of avoiding him at all costs and he was like back there standing by Sarah and Gracie I remember I was like he's gonna date one of them and I'm gonna be so mad I made that video but I was was like, we're not talking. So I avoided the whole night. So at the very end of the night,

did he know that he'd pick up on the side of the hour? Well, later, yes. But at the time, like no, all my friends say he was like trying to catch up to me the whole time, but I was like high tailing. So we were like all in a circle at the end of the night. And it was so funny. I said something about, I had just gone skydiving

and I was like, oh, it was amazing. And then, Christian said, oh, would you ever go like, short-cade, Jimey? I was like, no, and he was like, I wear it. And I'm like, he's a man. You know, like, starting to like, thank you's kinda cute. And so then, at the end of the night, he says,

Shady, you know I'm the only person in my family that you don't follow on Instagram. And I was like, oh, really? Ha-ha, and I like knew I did it. And I was like And I was like, oh, really? Ha ha. And I like knew I did it. And I was like, I was like, oh, that's crazy. And then I like avoided it. I was like, can't follow him.

Because I never started DMing. And I love you now. And so then I gave it like three days. There's no hotel girls. Hey, give yourself three days. Three days is a good time. Jesus spent three days in the tube. You guys give yourself some time to think, right?

So I thought about it. And then I was like, okay, you know what? I'm not dating him by following him on Instagram. Just following him on Instagram. So I follow him and I get this notification pop up. And I was like, did he already do it? Me that is so weird. Like that was so fast.

And I click on it and he had DM me two years ago and I ever saw it. And it's like what guy writing a really beautiful story. He had seen me at Passion and he was like, I love LureZoo in real life. That's so sweet. So we started not talking, but literally just talking, getting to know each other.

And for like two months, we had just talked to friends. We didn't flirt. My friends would be like, Christian, I'm like, no, don't even say it. We're not flirty at all. We're talking about the buy like we didn't flirt. Like my friends would be like, Christian, I was like, no, don't even say it. Like we're not, like we have not flirted at all. We're talking about like the buyover. We were talking about like books or reading sermons we're listening to.

And what it did though is that repositioning in my heart is like I'm not gonna date for a while. It slowed me down to get to know him as a person. And like every other show I had been in literally lasted two months. For us, we like taught two months, getting to know each other before we ever stepped into dating. And so for you, maybe you're her story

and you like, rocked single, and you were like, I definitely did not have as much as I should have. It's hard days, but just in the sense of like, I traveled by myself, I got to know myself, I had this sweet time with the Lord. Like he is the creator of all things, but he's also the one that I love, like those things. Or maybe you're like me, and you just like consistently,

like put a guy in your life to just date somebody to date. Like God's gonna cover you in all things. He's holding things. He is love himself. But at the same time, it's never too late to stop a pattern or a cycle that you're going on and just reposition your heart with the Lord. And it's never too late to say, okay, guys, I'm in a great place with you. And now this guy is great. And that doesn't mean you're replacing God with this guy.

You're just welcoming me into your story. And so wherever you're at, God's in it. And he's good because he's literally like writing the story of your life and with you and all things. I love that we just talked about that. I love it too. I do think there's another cycle that we just talked about that. I love it too. I do think there's another cycle that we can have in, in our heart sometimes where we feel like we have to know the person is the one. So true.

The first date that we go on. And I think, I think I did that, where I dated guy and be like, God, wants me to, I didn't want to be the one that wasn't like God's will so I'd be like, God probably wants me to marry him. And it just wasn't and I put too much. So I think that going on a date here and there is so, it can be really healthy actually.

So true. To treat the person with respect. And if it's like, you know, just a good coffee or dinner date, like that's good, I think. I agree. Don't have to put the pressure on. I love that you'd spent two months just feeling it out. Like, same with Austin and I, we were really good friends

for a while and didn't put any pressure on it. And even after we were officially dating, I didn't know if we were gonna get married. And I don't think that's a bad place to be. I think keeping your hands open is healthy and until you know that God has for you to be a person. Because people say like, date someone with the intention to marry them.

And like, that is so true. Like, date someone with the intention to marry them. That doesn't mean you have to marry them. It's totally. You know, that's what my mom would always say, because I'd be like, well, love is patient, love is kind. Like when my boyfriend's in a fight,

she's like, for, yes, that's God's love. And that's for marriage. Like those are whenever you're going to really have to like fight through things and work through things. So when you're dating somebody, and they show signs that they're not the one, it's okay to break up, because you're considering the one in the total.

You're true, you know? I think that's such a good point. Yeah, awesome. Okay, so this is so relatable, but I want to kind of add a little bit to this, but they said, how do you deal with someone who is spreading false rumors about you? Oh, I feel like I don't listen to high school, but I am still dealing with it as a young adult too. I struggle to not get angry.

I wanted to fend truth. Do I be silent? Do I speak up? So basically, I struggle to not get angry. I wanted to find truth. Do I need to be silent? Do I speak up? So basically she's going through a lot. And I feel like a lot of people feel that way. And I do think that people think that's just for high school, but it's not. So for you, have you dealt with that?

And too, I think you could even go into the social media aspect of things. I mean, you all have a following, dealing with comments or people and all those things. How do you go through that? Well, first of all, I mean, I'm so sorry. That is so painful. That's so that is so hard and that's really sad. And even though you know who you are and your God's child and your everything that he says you are, that still is so painful. And it's been painful for me when I've experienced slander, when I've experienced that and, and yeah, and for me in terms of when there've been rumors spread, I think the best way is to go, the Bible says if your brother

has an aunt against you to go to your brother and, and to confront him and it's like, when your brother has a problem with you, you go to him. And so I think it's important to go to the person that is spreading the rumors or who is, yeah, saying false things about you as being hurtful to you and until like talked about it by them coffee be like, hey, I just don't understand, you know, what's what did I do to do this or you know, whatever just to have a really good healthy conversation. And if they're not willing to talk about it and if they're still better towards you or if they're still spreading those rumors to, I mean,

really the only thing that you can do is love. And I think, obviously, there's probably going to be a righteous anger that you feel. There's gonna be an anger that you feel I felt bad. And there's a difference between the toxic anger and the righteous anger and the toxic anger. I mean, that can only be healed through forgiveness, which takes a long time.

But then righteous anger is good because it shows you your heart's motive, your desires of your heart, your passions for justice. And stuff. And I think that if you let it, the Lord use your passion for justice that you've experienced through being hurt, then it will be great to help other people, you know. And so in terms of like the comments, I think our music, some of the songs are different from what other people have heard in the Christian music world and stuff and there's some things we talk a lot about

vulnerability or all these kinds of things and we do get a lot of comments where people are frustrated or offended or yeah, there's been some really hurtful comments about how the music is like Helleness because it's like rowdy and it's like we need to go back to the hymns of old and demons are like crazy stuff and you're like what's like, rowdy. And it's like, we need to go back to the hymns of old and demons are crazy stuff. And you're like, what? Like, how did you get there from there? Like, yeah. But obviously, there's a story there.

I mean, I don't know. There's a story why they are offended by genre, the type of music or what we're talking about. And I've tried a few times. It can get hard with a lot of comments and stuff. But a couple of times, it can get hard with a lot of comments and stuff, but a couple times I'll just like audio message like, hey, I don't really understand. You know, what, why do you think this is not our hard at all?

And I've actually had some amazing conversations over social media with people who will be like, you have been so kind. Thank you for approaching me. Like, I totally understand what you're saying now. And I did it before. And it's like love covers and multitude of wrong, which is really hard sometimes. But that's been cool to see those great outcomes come out of really initially bad situations.

I love that. Yeah. What about for you with sure you experienced that? It's definitely hard for sure. I actually just recently was super challenged by this. It was like one of the executives at Nike, She was at the Global Leadership Conference and she was talking about how they used to get so much hate And then one day they were like why don't we just ask them like how we can help like how we can help Just hear them out and I was like that is so cool like that they would ask the people who are hating on them

How they can help make things better. And, you know, like you said, sometimes you're going to take that advice and then sometimes sometimes it's just not right. Like you said, like you can approach somebody once and maybe it'll go great and if they're don't have the ears to hear and they don't want to listen, they're still going to be in their place. You have to, you know, stand up for yourself and be confident enough to say like, okay,

I know who I am. Exactly. I wish you the best, but there's nothing else to talk about, you know, stand up for yourself and be confident enough to say like, okay, I know who I am. I wish she the best, but there's nothing else to talk about, you know? I actually remember recently I was getting this girl, she was hating on my page, over some things that I was really passionate about, like mission work and mission trips and stuff, and she just didn't agree with it. She felt like you should help your own country, which we do help her own country, but it was just super big hate. But it bothered me enough that I felt like I should DM her. And I never really tap into it because my family's been in this for like six years and we get all kinds of hate and things.

And also way more positive, but also, you know, you have those people in the one just for so big. I know. I know. The one you remember. And so I'm going to reach, and I'm just gonna like, kind of enlighten her. It's like, what my heart is, why I care about this,

and maybe help her understand a little bit and just see like why she's so bothered. And so I messaged her privately, and she, me at response, sorry, don't have time to read this. And in that moment, I was like, okay, this girl has time to go on my public page and publicly sail that, but privately she's at time.

And it makes you realize that some people aren't saying something because they really are mad or because they really care, but they just want the attention because she continued on my public page to talk about it, but she went and responded privately. And so like you said, you have to understand that like when people are saying stuff like, there's a story there, there's something going on in their own life, maybe it's insecurity, maybe it's an attention seeking thing, maybe they see where you're at in life

and they wanna drag you down. And so that's why it's so important that wherever you are, whoever you are, whatever your story is, that you are so confident in what God is doing in your life and you're confident in the answers that you would give. Just like I could mess it up and say, Hey, I see you're upset. This is my heart.

And that's why you want to be really in touch with what God is doing in your life and who you are because you can answer those questions about who you are and not let what they say become who you are. And that goes from Instagram or in high school, like high school gosh. Yes, I remember getting some hate and high school. It's so, it's hard. It's so hard, but knowing who you are and you might be like, how in the world do I know who I am?

How do I get to that point? And it's really just for me, I mean, just finding myself in scripture. Like God speaks so much life over you. He literally formed you, created you the fact that your breathing means that he has a plan. And so keeping all of that in mind, that when you go outside and you see this beautiful creation, that guy created you too.

And it makes all of this a lot easier. Have you ever read the story, Punch and L.O. Maxlucato wrote this book? Yes. Lucia, she's, so in this book, it's like this town of wooden characters. And they all give each other stars or dots for the good things that they do.

They give them stars. If they do bad things, they get these black dots put on them and it just sticks to their wooden characters. So this one girl, Lucy, is the only girl in the whole town who doesn't have any stars or any dots on her. And this one little mimic, they're called Wemmicks. His name is Punch and Nellown. He's just covered in black dots. So he goes to her and he's like,

how, how do you not have any of these stars or dots on you? And she said, it's easy. I just go spend time with the maker every day. And I love that because I think we think like, oh, we're doing good if we get all these like praises from people. But even that is like, that can be dangerous. You know, if you let that just, like you said, decide who you are or what you believe and what you stand for, it's like, God gets to decide that. And spending time with him is the only way you'll be able to get to that point.

So I love that book. And like, honestly, whenever to all to read kids' books, it's so good. So we should go read it. If you have not read it, seriously go read the book. I remember reading that book like an elementary school, like our library teacher, read it to us. And now like it's so much more impactful than it was things.

I didn't really get it as significant whenever you're younger, but you're like, wow, like spending time in my maker, like whether it's the compliments, you need to get back to him or the insults you need to give to him. And let God just bring you back to who you are. Sometimes you need a little humbling, and sometimes you need a little, a little booster.

Exactly, that's so true. That's a good point. All right, so this is the last question I'll ask as somebody said, and I love this question. I love the authenticity. She says, how do you deal with your busy schedule? I feel like I can barely find time to go to school, work, and sleep.

I feel like I can never fit in all of my things, and I know with you, you're literally in a band, you're married, you have several things, so many more things things and I know with you you're literally in a band you're married you have several things so many more things and I know about because I recently put a video on Instagram you have friendships to maintain you have a relationship with the Lord how do you find time what does that look like for you? This is funny they're asking me that because last week was like oh promoting the record it was a lot of stuff which I'm so grateful for because I'm so passionate about the music

I'm so passionate about what God is doing in the band and what he's doing in the world. So I'm so grateful to be a part, but it was getting the point where I was like, my voices gone. Like I can't even, like, goodbye. We were working really hard, so it was exhausting, and I definitely was like, you know, can't keep at this pace forever. I think the balance of having said it it side time where you rest is important, I think not resting all the time. But like the work that we have is such a gift from the Lord and being able to look at it as

a blessing is awesome, but also taking that hour in the morning to rest, you know, take things slowly. And I think honestly a lot of us, I think if we were honest with ourselves, if we spent a little bit of time off of social media, we would find time to like, chill, read and pray and all that. So I think, I mean, I own my word. I'm so grateful for the new iPhone thing that says,

like, you've been on your phone. Ooh, I'm gonna hit you face. Every Sunday, I'm like, ooh, I know. I know. So I think that's good. That rest time is important because we can always make time for the things that are important. It's good.

Yeah, what do you do? I love that. And that's a great point. It's a great point. If you go on your screens, I want your phone. It will literally tell you how much time you spent on Instagram. So take that and then bring it into all the things that you need to do.

Love Instagram is fun, but it's not the most important thing in your life and the least bit. And I think when you're actually living your life, then you have an overflow to be able to post on social media for stuff like that. But I love that you ask that question to me too, because I've struggled with the balance. And I think what I define was like, rest is so important, but rest isn't always going to look like a week or longer. A month longer.

Sometimes you can't do that, but like you said, it can be that hour. It can be for me, like, it's actually restful for me to play tennis. Like, that's not everybody's rest, but that helps my mind like, stop for a minute. Like, it's rest to go work out. Like, I like doing that. And it's funny. We recently heard a president speech and not president Trump, but a president from the past. They were asked, and what is your time? Look like in the White House? And he said, every morning, I woke up and for an hour, I read the Bible and then I went through a mail and then later in the afternoon, he said, and I didn't read the news because I was the news. And then he said, and I worked out for an hour every day. And I was like, the president of the United States had time to read his Bible for an hour and work out for an hour.

I'm like, if the president can find time to do that, then we all can't. It just means waking up a little earlier, karma at that time, going to bed a little bit sooner. But that's so hard. And I feel like when you're walking about to show the Lord, assuming people say, how do you find time to read your Bible

or do a devotional? And you know, with the Lord, like, it doesn't just have to look like spending time and a devotional at six in the morning. I always say this and like, God did not set that date. Like, he did not set that time. Like, he's not disappointed with you if you sleep till seven because that was not his date that he said, that was your date.

And so like, that's not how the relationship with God always works. Like, relationship with him is 24 seven. Like, talk to him all day long. If you like read your Bible, like meditate on the truth, the Bible talks about that. Those you meditate on the world will be like a tree planted vegetables living water. But it's not like if you don't do your devotional then

it's like a crucial thing in your relationship with God he's there all the time. I wanna ask you one last thing, just personally, you know, you talk about people, commenting about we the kingdom and stuff that y'all put out and like, I love holy water. I love what y'all are doing. I think it's awesome.

What is from you and your family? Like, why do y'all do it? Why do y'all write the music? What are you saying? Like, what would you want people to know your heart is behind what you do? That's a really a great question. The band kind of started as an accident.

We didn't like ever sit on being a family band. That's honestly being young. I was like, that sounds like terrible. But it's not. It's amazing. The Lord really directed our paths to lead to this point and it makes total sense and it's been really, really sweet. I think the one thing that we want people to take away from this record though, I mean, people ask like, what is the record about and it literally is it's our first record. So it's about everything that we want people to take away from this record. Though, I mean, people ask, like, what is the record about? And it literally is, it's our first record. So it's about everything that we've experienced. I'll be until this point, which is a lot of stuff.

But I think that the art behind it is that people would feel deeply and dearly loved by the Lord, by Jesus, no matter where they are in life, because he loves us so much. And so I hope that the record gives people permission to be able to enter into whatever place they need to be in, whether that's a place of sadness or vulnerability with God, whether that's a place of deep joy, whether that's a place of deep rest and peace or whatever. I'm hoping that if people will be able to find a song

for each sort of season in their heart. It's awesome. That can help them experience a deeper connection with God and with people. But I love that. Because that's what it's done for me. So I'm so grateful for the songs. I mean, some of them have been around for a really long time.

So it's cool to know, like sharing them with people. I love that. That's so cool. Oh, we're so excited for USAWEE because I always, like, speak in week and time out my whole team. I love it. And my husband and my family, like, we love it. And we're excited for y'all. You haven't gone to got the team. I love it. It's been in my family, like we love it and we're excited for y'all.

If you haven't gone to got the album, go get it. Holy water and thank you for being here for being alive. Thank you so much for having me. This is awesome. See you guys. Bye. Thank you so much for listening to the WoW That's Good Podcast. I have so much been doing this.

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