WHOA That's Good Podcast - Mia Robertson on Being Upset with God: ‘Why Did He Make Me This Way?’ | Sadie Robertson Huff

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Sadie's cousin (and biggest hype girl!), Mia Robertson, is in the studio spilling all the tea about her life lately! From mission trips and leading worship to working at Camp Ch-Yo-Ca and her dating adventures, nothing’s off the table. Sadie also hits her with some audience questions you guys sent in. They dive into why Phil and Kay Robertson's love story is basically The Notebook IRL and how their relationship has been such a strong example for Mia as she’s on the hunt for a good guy. Plus, Mia gets super real about how being on TV with her cleft lip and palate started out as her absolute worst nightmare, but now she’s genuinely grateful to God for the journey it’s taken her on.  This Episode of WHOA That's God is Sponsored By: https://helixsleep.com/sadie — Get 20% off sitewide today! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Try the new AG1 flavors and get a FREE Welcome Kit with your first order. http://activeskinrepair.com — Get 20% off your order when you use code WHOA at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Y'all, this is the greatest start to a podcast when you show up matching, when you have your cousin here. And so welcome back to the podcast. Your first time solo. I know. I was kind of nervous. But I've not really anymore. Good, good.

Well, we already started chatting and we weren't, like, recording, so we thought. And I was like, are we recording this? Because this is so good. And they're like, well, we got some of it. But it made me so excited for this talk. And last time you were on with your dad, you were almost on with Bella this time. Because you all have been, like, friends forever since literally birth. Yeah.

But I'm actually so glad it's you because I feel like so many people when we ask Instagram, like, what do you all have for Mia? So many questions. are so inspired by who you are and they don't even fully know the gift that you are so hopefully in the next you know 45 minutes we can unpack a lot of that um i have to say because we just recently i guess at this point a month or two ago had reed and cole and john luke on the podcast we talked about pep-off bill and it was like just it was one of my favorite podcasts ever and it also got one of the biggest downloads of listens and watches and people are like i just love

seeing your cousins, like y'all just talking about childhood and stuff. And I know you and Pebbleville had a really special relationship. There at the end, that last week you were there every day. Every time I was there, you were there, you had been there. You had some really sweet moments. But tell me a little bit and tell everybody a little bit about what your relationship with Pep LaFill was like growing up. I feel like me and Bella talk about this, like, when we were younger of like, she'll be

like, just watch. Like, I feel like, like, he just likes you more. Memo K likes you more. And it was like, no, it was never that like that. It was just that I was very clean. And I loved to clean. And, like, Pepo Phil knew that Memo K was kind of a hoarder. And so I would be like, let's clean it up.

And I feel like he saw that. He was like, yes. He respected. I feel like that was really, like, the only, like, set of part. I feel like he loved this all equally. He was like, that girl right there can clean. That is so great. And that he just needed that.

But one of my favorite things was that he wasn't very, you know, affectionate but every time I would come in he'd be like come here come here and he would just like he wouldn't get out of his chair but he'd like come stand in front of me and he would just like look at my face and like you look beautiful they're doing a great job like on your face and it just meant a lot to me because I'm not really the biggest hugger and that was what I needed to hear like yeah the words I really needed that and especially with someone like pep ball feel like that's just exactly what you need yeah and it's unexpected because he doesn't do that for everybody you know to stop and really see you and to speak into your life like that is so cool yeah when you said that about the cleaning thing

I was so not expected that you're like I'm clean I'm like he like he was dirty like he never took a shower no but it's like no all her stuff the actual cleaning I was like okay yeah that he had respect for I'm okay I'd be like me is in charge y'all listen to her and I was like yeah if y'all listen to me I know how to clean but and then I'm trying to think about something And, oh, this is actually really funny. One of my favorite memories I was thinking about is that when we were, like, younger, we would have sleepovers. Lily Merritt and Bella would share, like, the big guest bed. But one thing about them is that they sleep.

It's like, you wake up, you're, like, off the bed. Like, Bella's, like, on top of you. And so I hated it. And so I would go sleep on the couch. It was like, Mia's couch. And every morning, he would come in at, like, 5 a.m. And, like, turn on the TV, full volume. full volume like the weather the news and he'd be like hacking in his cups he'd see me and then

I would just wake up and then we'd just sit silently and just watch the weather and watch the news and we would never say a word hey that's so sweet we did it every single time that's so sweet I love that so much and that is like so him too and so my dad I don't know if your dad is like that but that would so be my dad like whenever we hate it whenever mom is out of town and dad will wake us up for school because if mom was there she would like come get in bed with us like good morning like try to wake us up and dad would just flip the lights on and go get up yeah that's exactly what he did let the lights on it's so funny because it always worked yeah like when mom would wake us out we would always like accidentally be late or sleep in but when dad would wake us up it would just be those lights

and he'd say get up and we were like boom mom would be like why do you do that with him I'm like it's the fear yeah no it is I'm like I would be so scared he would come back upstairs I know sleep because that would be the worst yes that's so funny it was really sweet though seeing you there at the and your dad even said your dad was like a silver lining in the suffering was the grandkids got this opportunity to kind of have like a more affectionate relationship with pebble i feel than we did for most of his life but it wasn't just that we were being extra affectionate he was like yeah he wanted you to hug him he wanted you to hold his hand and uh it was just really sweet seeing you and bella being so intentional with that.

Can you share a little bit about singing with him at the end? Yeah. So one thing about me is I love music, and I got there for my mom, obviously. She just sings all the time. And I got asked, like, this summer to be out at camp and, like, run campfire. And so I've been, like, studying these songs, like, making sure I know them. And I worked with my mom with him a lot, just, like, am I missing any good ones? And we just started singing them.

and then the next day we went to go see people Phil and I was like I kind of want to sing they had talked about like how a couple people from our family had been there and sang with him

and he really enjoyed it and I was like I want to do that like I feel like he'd really enjoy that and he did and he would reach out his hand every time and he was just so much more at peace and we sang

I'm trying to even think we sang so many songs but one that really stuck out to me it was like the day before his death and we sang surround us oh lord and he just was holding him him okay's hand the whole time and which i have like an audio message and i like can't even listen to it's like so like we were just all of us we're so emotional and so we had to sing happy once after yeah so we sang victory and jesus and i put that on my instagram because that one's more like happy and we kind of forgot the words but it was just really good to have those final moments of like

just singing about his goodness. Yeah. And which I feel like people are like, that's so weird. Like, but that's just kind of how Christians are. I think we're crazy anyway. Yeah. But it's like we're not sad. We're sad that he's, you know, in pain.

But we're not sad that he's passing on. Honestly, we're just like kind of a prayer of like, please like don't keep him here. Like we want him to be with you. Like so I just like felt so much at peace. So like even though tears are still shedding. Yeah. But that's like what I want for me. Like, I would want all the people that, like, I love to sing with me.

Yeah. Like, that's what I would want. It's so cool. It was cool. I was with Mom Okay when she went to the choir. It was like probably two weeks before he passed. And she was just crying and singing at the top of her lungs. But it was like crying with a smile, you know?

And I was like, this is so beautiful that as she's singing, she has these tears in her eyes. And it was starting to connect with me. The word she was singing were words she just so truly believes and desperately. believes in a sense because it's like this is what our hope is in and so if this is what our hope is in then we can be confident that as he passes and one day we all do like that's where we're going and it was just really beautiful to see how worship kind of carried through a lot of the end there um you led worship at his funeral which you did such a fantastic job like i honestly do not know how you did it because um i was crying like a baby the whole time worship got me i could not stop

crying like i was watching the funeral on any clip they pan to like me and christian i'm just like crying so i was just like had so much respect for you that you could lead something so beautifully and um hold yourself together in such a um just so much strength and so much grace and you sounded so beautiful were you nervous for that i actually wasn't i was more nervous about the Acapella ones because I was messing up the harmony and practice. My mom was like, you have to get this right. Me and Layla were like, oh no, we're going to mess up. We're out of our range here. But I lead worship with Max and like Layla, but especially Max, like so often, he comes and Leans worship with me at my church. And we always sing because he lives. Like that's like, anytime

they know Max is singing with Mia, they're like, we know they're going to do because he lives. and also my favorite worship song to lead is how he loves so I wanted to do that and just like I think the overall message is just amazing and it's such a simple song especially to play too like it's the same four chords and it's so easy to pick up but just I just kept thinking of just like how much the father loves us and I just thought what better way like we need to do it and like everyone needs to be reminded of this and we did because he lives and I mean that's just That was perfect

It's so true Oh my gosh yeah When y'all hit that at the end I was like oh shoot Yeah yeah And like me and Max we were like We knew we were gonna do that We didn't have to talk about it

And just like Will up there It was just I just kept thinking of like Wow like if like one thing didn't happen Of like the Lord working in his life Or like he didn't listen Or like we would not be up here All together and just like how beautiful

Like that is And like this is coming from Like I actually been thinking about this all week I don't even know what song that's from but it's that bridge and it's like you take what the enemy meant for evil and you turned it for good it's like Satan like had film was like

he was just like such in sin and then like he's now using that like God is using all that evil and sin to turn it for good for his kingdom and I just kept thinking about that like wow like saying is so mad like he just did not see this coming he can't see the future he did not see this coming

like so I just I wasn't nervous at all Wow. You didn't seem nervous. You seemed like you were in so much freedom and even just watching the funeral back, seeing your smile and like you seem so confident. It was so beautiful to watch. Yeah. Hey, this is Christian jumping in for Sadie while she is on maternity leave. I want to tell you guys about what Sadie and I both have done to make our whole day better. We've been an AG1 family for years now and I'm all about the AG1 next gen. When I start my day with it, I know that I'm setting myself up for a huge win. It's got a multivitamin, pre-end probiotics, superfoods, and antioxidants, all in just one scoop once a day.

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I know, because, you know, I was trying to start it out, the alto part. My mom was like, it's higher. Like, this is the alto part. She's like, I know. Me and Laylor just kept looking at each other. It was high. I'm like, okay, this is not me. But you get sounding good.

We definitely messed up on the harmony and we were like, we kept looking at each other. No, y'all sounded great. It was so sweet. And like Maris came up on stage. That was so cute. And like to enter prime with her little hand up. There's nothing like a kid worshipping. It's so good.

Okay, well, that was beautiful. You did an amazing job. So, so many people are interested in what your life looks like now. You're in college. Currently, you're actually at Camp Shioca, being a counselor. Tell me about that. How's that going? It's been good.

we're in the second week right now with campers. And so last week I had eight-year-olds. And this week I have 16-year-olds. So it's definitely been a bit of a transition. Eight to 16, you know, a little bit. And I have the same co twice in a row. So I guess that means we're doing a good job together. But it's been really awesome.

And I'm like, you know, over campfire and I actually feel like I'm like a leader. And just like I've so many people have been sick this week that I've been on worship every single night this week. and so i was like oh man like i have to like late again like i feel like i'm tired like and i want to be with my like my kids and but it's been so rewarding like such a rewarding thing and this has been like the best week wow like it's been so good and we had survivor day they came in woke us up at 3 30 a oh my gosh this morning no oh i was like so sorry but like four days ago and i let my girls do a prank two hours before they woke us up. So, but I didn't want to spoil it. They're like, we have to do a prank. And I didn't want to be like, we have to go to bed right now because then

they would know. And I wanted them to have the thrills for every day. That's a good counselor right there. So I was like, you know, I got to put them first. Like, I want to go to bed so bad. I know I'm waking up in two hours. Well, I got two hours of sleep that night. That is so funny. So you are like, you are not like most college students. And I don't say that because you are who you are because you've done all these things. You're not like most college students because you're just telling me a story before we started that you were supposed to go to Ireland

and London, which I knew because when I saw you a couple weeks ago, you were like, so excited about this trip to Ireland and London. It's your dream trip. And I was like, aren't you about to go on a trip? And you're like, yeah, I was supposed to, but I'm not anymore because I feel like I need to be at camp. So let's unpack that for a second

because not many college students are canceling their Ireland, London trip to stay at camp. What is God doing in your life right now that's keeping you grounded where you're at? and why choosing not to go on a dream trip to stay at summer camp? Yeah, so last summer is when I applied for this trip. And I really, like, had peace about, like, oh, yeah, I need to go devote my last summer, like, to missions.

Like, I'm only going to be at camp for two weeks. Like, like, I need to be, you know, going as far away as possible. Like, I need to reach so many people because I need to, like, do, like, the words work. Like, when am I going to have another summer? Like, this is my last summer. and been planning for it all year. I've met with my group once a month. Like, they put me in charge of, like, so many different things.

And the more I learned about the trip, I was like, I don't know if this is, like, what I had in mind, like a mission trip. And, like, it definitely is a mission trip, maybe to some, but it was not a mission trip to me. Like, I think mission trip is, like, you're really giving your all. Like, you've got to, like, I'm totally fine with, like, being uncomfortable. like I don't mind like when I'm my other mission trip this summer we're sleeping outside like that's fine with me just felt like for me like I wanted to use the body that God had given me in like such a way of like really pushing myself

and it just didn't feel like that it kind of was starting to feel like this is just a cool way to like go on vacation and like go to these places and last week during junior week which is rough week now you got 10 8 year olds that are all homesick and just sick in general. And that night going to bed the first night, I was like, I don't want to go to Ireland. And it scared me. I, like, sat up in bed. And I had been woken up four times that night

by girls and need to go to the bathroom. And so I was like, yeah, I'm just going to stay up this whole night, I guess, and think about it. And so I did, and I just like, man, Mia, you're crazy. Like, this is your dream trip. You've literally been telling people about it. Like, what would people think?

Like, they've given you money. Like, what are they going to think about this? So I was like, okay, let's think about it. Let's think about it more. and my passport had still not come in yet. So I was like, maybe that'll be my sign. Yeah. If my passport comes in, or it doesn't come in time.

And then I got the call and I said, like, your passport's going to be here in time. And I was like, dang it. I was like, wait, I should actually be, like, excited. I was like, okay, maybe this is the sign. Yeah. And then everyone started getting sick at camp. And they were like, me and we need you to lead worship every day. I was like, okay, feeling like I'm needed here.

And then it like hit me like, oh, I'm actually needed here. Like, I don't need to go chase, like, something for myself in another country when the Lord is calling me right here in Calhoun, which is so, like, crazy. Like, Calhoun versus Ireland, it's like, yeah, everyone that's not a Christian or just on paper is probably like, that is so. Or even a Christian, because you would be like, oh, like you said, like the more exciting ministry is in Ireland, the more exciting ministry is in London, so you think. But it's like, no, you're sitting here, literally getting woken. up all through the night, my eight-year-olds. Yeah. And then lastly worship, and you're like, this is ministry.

Yeah. And this is exciting ministry because it's where the Lord has me and I'm needed with my gifts. Yeah. I think that's so cool. One of my campers came up to me, she's nine. And she said, Mia, like, I want to get baptized. Like, I'm, like, just our theme this week and just, like, came here to camp and, like, I'd already talk to my family about it.

And, like, if I met, like, a counselor that I, like, she's nine. And, like, telling me, like, like, all. these profound things. She's like, I want you to baptize me and I'm coming back the first week of July and I want you to baptize me. Wow. And I'd actually have baptized her older sister last year. And she didn't even know that. Wow. And I was like, I'm not going to be here. Yeah. I'm not going to be here. And I was like, this is another sign. Like the Lord's calling me to be here. And I was just like, I'm not going to be here. And so now, like, her older sister's here this week and I'm going to tell her like, whenever she comes, they come and pick her up tomorrow. I'm like, I'm going to be here. But it was just so. But it was just so.

many little things that like came up like yeah I'm supposed to be here and so I called my mom like this was like a few days ago it's like four days ago and you know told her I was like let me let me say my peace like I don't want to get mad and because she's really I mean I honestly I haven't raised that much money for it anyway which that could have been assigned to I didn't really like go door to door I only raised $400 out of 2,300 and my trip is in two and half weeks and 300 was from my mom and dad. So that could have been a sign who, like, I was not going door to door and asking. But I called her and I told her to where my head was at. She's like, Mia, you need to go, like, where you're feeling called to. That was it. Wasn't mad at all. I was like, oh, okay, she gets it.

Like, I just felt like so blessed to have a mom that, like, is a spiritual leader. Or, like, I come to her and, like, she listens. And she understands because she also would do the same thing. So that was my answer, and I told, you know, John Lick, Ms. Carey, like, I'm staying. And Ms. Carey was like, I've been praying that you'd make this decision for the past six months. I'm like, okay, y'all are praying on my downfall. She was like, yeah. Powerful woman right there. Yeah.

That is awesome. You know, last time you were on this podcast, you were talking about, like, wanting a flip phone or something, and that clip, like, went viral. Everyone loved that because it was so contrary to what, again, most college students are saying, like, who wants a flip phone, you know? Who's like, get me off the map? I don't need any of that kind of stuff. Like, I just want to be in the presence of the Lord and good people. Like, have you always been like this? Or is this something that shifted when your relationship with God got deep?

I don't know. I feel like definitely in high school, like, I did not want to stand out at all. I definitely, like, was trying to conform to the norm. Like, I didn't want attention. And, like, the more I, like, prayed about that, that's definitely, like, from me having close-foot palate. Like, I didn't want to be set apart. But then, you know, the Lord literally tells you you're called to be set apart.

And I was like, oh, okay. Right on. So, like, anything that, like, I guess, like, makes me me, I just, like, lean into that. That's great. And, like, people are, like, you're so interesting. I'm like, thank you. Like, my mom is always, like, she has no idea what I'm going to say or what I'm going to do next. But I just feel like that's, I get that from my dad, too.

Just, like, he doesn't conform to the norm and he got that from Phil. And so, like, I see a lot of myself, like, in Pepoff. Phil and my dad, of like, they don't do what the norm. You never know. You never know. Social cues. Sometimes, like, they're still going to do what they're going to do. And I feel like that's me.

But I think that's, like, that's what the world's interested in. Because, like, that, you get to see another side of God when people are, like, fully themselves. We're all made in the image of God. And so giving people a glimpse of who you were originally created to be is giving people a glimpse of, like, the creator, you know? And it's so cool because so many people shy away from that. And like you said, conform to the norm. I think that's why you go on social media and it's like sometimes boring because everyone looks

the same. Everyone's doing the same trend. And there's like the person who's kind of doing the offbeat thing that you're like, that's cool. Yeah, I was like, that's so me. Like anytime I say I'm like, oh, I was like, yeah, it's so neat, right? And like, that's what you click with because that's what makes you you and what makes you human and what people appreciate about you. But it's so interesting, what a scheme of the enemy to be like, no, that's the thing you need to hide. That's the thing you need. Well, of course, because that's the thing that's going to show people the creator. That's the thing that's going to resonate with people. And, you know, I asked Instagram what questions they have for Mia,

and we had so many great questions. But a lot of people did ask about your cleft lip and palate and just how you're doing with all of that. But someone actually has that as well. She said, I still struggle so much with comments about my cleft. How did you handle that? And how did you begin to overcome that? Okay.

So I actually shared my testimony like the other day at camp. And like the beginning was about my cleft lip palette. it and it was definitely hard because you know when you're a kid it's just your it's just your brain's not fully formed yet and so when people say you know terrible stuff to you it really affects you and then I talked about like the episode where like stayed by Mia where it was like that was my biggest insecurity like was on television really and I obviously like at the time like I thought I guess maybe I thought it was cool but I don't see myself I guess like really being excited about it because I didn't want people to just, like, know me as like, oh, the Robertson and the

houseclotha palette. Like, oh, yeah, that's that girl, like, that's coolful palette. And that's kind of what it became known as. And so, like, that's when, after that episode is when I, like, got my first hate comment. And it just said, you ugly. Like, not even write grammar. Like, I don't even remember what it was. Isn't it so weird that, like, I, because I remember my first one, and it said you look

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Like my mom had my Instagram account and like, I know that she like must have gone through deleted comments because like I just know that she did because they all started getting really nice randomly when I would see it. I was like, thanks mom. But, um, it's a good mom. And I don't know what she'll ever meant that, but someone someone has deleted comments. But, um, I feel like the more, I guess like my confidence grew like in the Lord and what he had planned for me. Like, the confidence within me grew, but it took a long time. Like it was not overnight, I put Bible verses like on my mirror. However, like, I'm beautiful and wonderfully made, and I was created in his image.

And I think the hardest part for me was like I was upset at God. Like, why did he make me this way? Quetflip Powitt is more genuine, like generally genetic. So I was like, okay, like why me? It's just such a rare thing to not be genetic. And then it's like now like because of an episode, which like I didn't like at the time, like now like my part of my job is like talk to club appellate families. Like that would have never happened if I just wouldn't have been a little bit uncomfortable. Like the fruit of that was seen.

It just wasn't seen until later. Yeah. Wow. So just I feel like waiting and just praying like it takes a while. Yeah. And one thing that helped is like having support system. and my support system at 8 was Lily, Mara, and Bella. And I would always say, like, oh, I just don't think I'm pretty.

And I always thought they were so much prettier than me. And Bella got on my phone. It's still on my phone. It will go off today. Every day at 4 p.m. It says, You're beautiful dash bell. And she got on my phone and put it on there. And it's still there.

Every day at 4 p.m. It reminds me. And, like, just little things like that still on my phone. I'm pregnant. I need that. That's such a sister and a friend. So it's like, there are my sisters, and, like, I just feel like, that's just so important to have, like, girls in your life that pour into you, and I have that at eight.

So it's like, you're never too late. It's also never too early. Yeah. But that helped me, and to actually know, like, I was created for a purpose, and I just, like, to help people. Like, yeah, like, I would never wish 12 foot pound on anyone. But, honestly, like, I've been thinking, like, I'm glad I have it and not someone else. Like, I, like, I'm, like, at peace with, like, what I have.

and like if like someone is not like I will take that burden from them I'll help help them through it like and I'm just fully at peace with how the Lord has moved in me but I definitely could not always say that yeah that's so I think that's so honest and so real and I think that people need to hear that because whether you have cleft love and pellet or you don't most girls struggle with believing that they're beautiful or feeling confident in who they are and mad at the way God made them for X, Y and Z reason And, I mean, even for me in middle school, it's just hard because people say mean things and not just on TV at school. Like, I had this girl at school who every morning would say something rude. It would be like, oh, did you just forget to fix your hair today?

Oh, well, yeah, rude. Like, it just be like the rudest things. And it would just always make me feel so insecure and, like, question what I looked like or who I was or she'd comment on, like, my personality. And it, like, makes you confused, you know, because. if you don't have an anchor for truth, then anything somebody says to you is going to like confirm those insecurities you already are feeling. And that becomes what you believe about yourself. So say, let's say, like, you do have to fight that. Like, you have to combat that. And for me, it was the same thing. I put scripture on my mirror and, uh, surrounded myself with

scripture and started like speaking truth or myself, not allowing myself to believe the lies. Actually not letting that girl speak to me. Like when she would come up to me, I'd be like, hey, if you're about something rude, just don't. You know, like, you have to fight that. And I think so many people just kind of let themselves get punched, you know, like, they just read the comments. They just let people speak into it. They just keep putting on more makeup or keep changing their body. And it's like, you never find peace with that. You never get to a place on that path that makes you finally go, oh, wow, like, I believe I'm beautiful. I believe because you're always going to believe those voices or you're always going to be chasing the next look or the next

trend. But it's when you look yourself in the mirror and you say, I'm at peace with the way God made me. I am fearfully and wonderfully made. I was made with intention. I was made to be, you know, so much more than the way I look and start speaking that truth. Like, that's when you start to go. I'm at peace, you know. And so I think it's so fair to say, yeah, it wasn't always like that, you know. It takes work. It takes intentionality. It takes a 4 p.m. message on your phone that you start to actually believe for yourself, you know? And so I just, I love that. Someone actually said, this is like in the faith-based questions because I kind of categorize them all, how do you not get mad at God for letting bad things happen? And you kind of touched on like

being mad at God. Like, why did you make me like this? You know? And I remember going through a time whenever just the show was so crazy back in the day. And I was in high school and I lost so many my friends and didn't know what my future looked like because everything I had thought was going to happen had shifted and I was getting like all these closed doors and I was like what in the world and I was like God why did you put me in this position if I was going to lose on my friends why did you put me in this position if I'm not going to know what I'm supposed to do in my life like just that wrestle can you speak a little bit more into like overcoming that wrestle and that feeling towards God because you're a girl who just talked about this summer I'm going to devote my

life submissions and anything for the Lord. I'm sleeping outside. But it's kind of cool to hear you say years ago. You were pretty frustrated at God. Yeah. I feel this is a really hard question because I'm not an angry person. Like if you know my dad, I mean, I've never heard him raise his voice at me or really anyone. And I definitely got that from him. I feel like I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been like truly just angry. And like that's not normal and I know that. But that's pretty cool though. It is cool, but sometimes I'm like, man, like, I don't know if it's because I've become desensitized or just like I'm so like, you know, people say mean things. Like now when people say that about me like the little kids last week, they're like, what happened to your lip? I'm like,

it doesn't bother me. Or like, oh, like, were you burned? I'm like, no, like it doesn't bother me at all. But, you know, I would say like prayer has changed my life. And that was what I was missing. Like, I honestly figured out the power of prayer last summer, which is crazy because I'm 21. But I feel like I was so much more like easily annoyed just like why like God would you do this. And I wasn't like having a super deep relationship with him. Like we had a relationship but I didn't pray about every little thing. It was I prayed about like stuff like something bad had happened. Yeah, in the midst of and like I felt like that was good. Like that's what you're normal. like that's so normalized of like you just pray whenever like you need him and not praying when you like

are just going through life just in relationship like that's such a good like relationship is you talk all the time not just like only when you need something and I didn't want me and the Laurel's relationship to be transactional and so last summer I mean I just like really was like we're diving in we're praying every day and it would just be like little things like I'd be walking to my next class and I'd be walking to my next class at school. And then I just walked my class and like, hey God, like, thank you so much for this day, like, just like little things. Like, thank you so much for doing this. And just little reminders of just thank you. Like, yeah, just having a gracious heart. And I feel like that's made me just not so like angry at the Lord of like just constantly putting more good. And like, like,

you know, when you think good, you do good and you feel good. And that's so like cliche, but it's so true. Like if you're spending time so like so much time like mad at God, how. how are you, like, kind of going to get out of that without, like, having a heart change and a mind change. So I would say, like, that's my biggest piece of vice is, like, the power of prayer is so, like, I could talk about it forever, is so crazy of, like, then whenever a decision happens, either way, it's like you have peace because you know it was from the Lord. You don't have to, like, try to question.

It's just like, oh, yeah, I don't have peace about that. Yeah, that's so good. It's so cool because, like, science actually backs up what the Bible says. And it's almost like science thinks that they beat the Bible to it. It's like, nope, actually you can go back to 2000 years. This thing's been, you know, it's like, this has been here. And it's so cool because, you know, that verse, it's like with everything, with prayer and petition, present your request of the Lord.

And then it talks about, what does it say, like with Thanksgiving and gratitude. I can't remember the exact phrasing. But it's basically talking about like when you're feeling anxious, like go to the Lord in prayer with Thanksgiving. And like scientists and different people who, who study all of these psychologists, they actually say that gratitude and fear cannot, like, dwell in the same place. So, like, if you have fear, anxiety, the more grateful you are, then that fear will go away in the sense of, like, okay, if I'm scared, something's going to happen

to my kid, instead of just, like, letting the train go of how scared I am, just say, God, thank you so much for my baby. But, of course, they wouldn't say that. They would say, not thank you to God. They just be like, I'm grateful that I have a baby. I'm grateful that I, whatever. And I've actually found that to be so true. with prayer. It's like the more you pray and gratitude, the less anxious you are about the day-to-day life things, the less frustrated you are about the day-to-day-to-life things because you just have such a greater perspective. And that's something that like reading the Psalms really help me see because they, the way they pray, yes, they go to God in like the crucial moments. And it's actually

really cool how they pray to God in the crucial moments because it is not polished. They're like, God, destroy my enemy. I'm like, no chill. Like, don't worry about coming to God. God sounded good because they did not. But more than that, what struck me is, like, just how much they praise God in their prayer. Like, God, you are holy. You are the creator of the universe. You are, like, it's like how big you are, how in charge you are, how glorious you are. And then you're just like, oh, wow, like, that's the God I'm talking to.

And the more you talk to him like that, the less the little things of the world worry you or bother you because it's like your perspective is in light of like the creator of the universe. And I think it's really inspiring that you said, like, kids comment, stuff like that, and it doesn't get to you because that is such a real thing. Like, I have other friends who have, like, physical features on them that are notable to where kids say stuff. And that's always been, like, hard for them, you know, because every time someone says something, it's like a reminder, oh, you notice that. But it's, like, so cool to hear you say that you've kind of overcome that. Just letting people know, like, that's actually possible to overcome. Back to school season means new routines, packed lunches, and at least a few playground injuries. That's why I'm super pumped to tell you all about today's sponsor, Active Skin Repair.

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Like, I was born with it. But they were like, well, I think it's so cool. That's like, oh, like, yeah. So I just feel like also just like, it doesn't always have to be like this so serious thing. Like, oh, they can't talk about it at all. Like, it's like, no, you can. Like, it's obvious.

Like, so just like kind of just. I don't know, not shoving another, because I don't want to be ashamed. Yeah. Like the Lord made me. I don't want to be like, oh, you can't talk about it. It's great. I'm not ashamed of who he made me, but, I mean, I wasn't always like that. That's great.

So I would say, just like, if you know, if you feel that way, just like, don't, like, hate yourself. Like, it just takes time. It's great. It's really good. Mia. I love that so much. Okay, gosh, there's so many questions people have asked. Let me, let me look at them for a second.

Okay, quick one, favorite worship song right now. Okay. I'm trying to think we just did. we've done worship every single day. I think my favorite one right now. Oh, okay. So it's called the blood. Honestly, it couldn't tell you who it's by.

But the bridge, it will change your life. And I found this song like in fall semester. And I had never heard before. They played it at school. And I was sitting there like, this is the greatest song I've ever heard, like, ever. So I like got up my phone was recording it. So I didn't forget it. and I sent it to camp and I was like we're doing this song this summer and so I let it last week or I think maybe this week

and everyone's been like risk saying the bridge like over and over again what's the bridge it says it's never been about performance perfection oh I love this song yes striving for acceptance let me tell you it's all about the blood wow and it just keeps going and it's like yeah like it's never been about that and like so many people like especially counselors are like this is what I needed to hear wow so I mean I I love that song. I listen to it all the time and it's never gone old. That is good. So whoever wrote that song, like, shout out. That is a shout out.

That song is amazing and it has changed 200 Camper's Lives this week. That's so cool. But that, and I would say probably made for more. Yep. I love that song. That is such a fun song to sing. It's so funny because whenever that song first came out, I was like, we're doing this conference this year.

And someone on our team was like, do you think it's like a, what did she say? because you know how there's songs that are more like individualist singing their songs that's like more music as a group. I was like, oh no, that song is going to be so good with a group. And then she's like, okay, I don't know, but I'll trust you on this one. And like, of course, that song exploded. It's like sung everywhere. And she's like, okay, I was wrong on that one.

Yeah. But I love that song. I think it's because when you sing it with a group of people, it's like seeing so many people step into the truth about like who they were created. to be as opposed to like most of the time you see the world living for so much less than who they are and what God made them to be. It's like, come on, rise above. Like, this is how you worship through it. This is how you like put truth to something. Yeah. And we did that song on, on Wednesday. And it was like very spontaneous. The guy, like we just finished prayer night.

They've all done the prayer walk. They come back into the gym. And I've been singing for an hour and a half. And the guy comes up to like close out. And I look at him. I was like, we're another song and he's like looking at me like okay we have a schedule like they're about to be up late and i was like we're going to do the chorus if made for more he's like we're going to sing this next chorus everyone and i just start from like i know who i like and he's like okay they're doing the whole song and we probably sang it for like six or seven minutes that's us and it was like that was just like oh wow like the lord was just everybody's hands are raised like and everyone was like people were crying on the floor and it was like yeah and he's like the guy that like i

talked to you about it. He goes, I actually thought about that song about doing that, like, outside, but I didn't know how to tell you because none of y'all had your phone. And I just wanted to sing it. Like, wow, we were supposed to sing the song. That's cool. And it was, I mean, that song's amazing. Because even the start of that, I know who I am, because I know who you are. Like, how many people in high school can say, like, I know who I am? You know, not many. That's, like, the struggle of high school is, like, you don't know who you are. And that's why, like, everything hurts and everything's sensitive. And you're trying to figure out. who you are. But like for a song to come in and like give you words to say before maybe even

believe them for yourself, it's the same concept as writing scripture on the wall. It's the same concept as putting something in your phone at 4 p.m. It's like, I'm going to speak this until I really believe this. And then the chorus and the bridge going into like the reasons why you can know who you are. It's so good. I love that. Okay, someone said, what Bible verse or truth has carried you through this season? This season? I wrote my Bible. I'm trying to think. I've been reading I'm just it out girl bust it out um I would say right now which first of all I'm missing my Bible is just really going through it we have this is Philippians she's just not even in here anymore hey that's a good sign that's a well love Bible I actually thought about this is first John which

like the reason why I kept this Bible which I've gotten new in there's so much water damage in here is because of this right here which is first John like four and five and it's just talks about love and I think that's the theme of just like grief right like just my life is just something kind of grief but like feeling like the love of my family and my friends and like so many people that have poured into me right now and just I mean I got so many texts and calls and people were checking in on me and it feels like the love of like the father and like how I kept thinking like how pleased he is like it goes back to song how he loves was just like that's been kind of the theme and it's been intertwining with

grief and it's just made me just like so much at peace um okay i don't even know if i can even like get this through but i just like first john five and we also started doing the you know love one another and this is kind of like where this comes kind of from that says everyone who believes that jesus is the christ is born of god and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well this is how we know that we love the children of god by loving god and carrying out his commands like I think the concept, which this can go, you know, as deep as you want, but like the concept of love now is just like not the love that I know God has for me. And it's kind of made me like kind of except I feel like the bare minimum. And so this has kind of been a reminder of like what

true love actually is because I feel like we don't really see that often, but I saw it in Kay and Phil. Like how like, I mean, where they were at in the last months of his like life is just that's not were Kay's dream destination, but she didn't complain. When she was in there, she didn't complain. And like, I just saw that. And I was like, you don't see that really anymore. And like that, I mean, that would, that would be hard to live there, some of those people that were in there. There were some crazy people in there. Some crazy people. And she was not, yeah, she wasn't at that level, but yet she chose to be. Yeah. And it's just things like that, or I was like, that's what the Lord is on marriage for. That was like to have an actual partner and putting each other first.

like but putting the Lord above both of you like it just has been really carried me through and like giving me hope and peace because like all my friends are getting married like they're getting serious relationships I'm like I'm not settling these are my grandparents they're doing this like I don't think like this man is going to do that for me like no like it has raised my standards and like sometimes I'm like oh like man like I wish it like maybe I didn't have that but it's like no like I want I want that I'm not going to settle for less and like the Lord's It's not something less for us. And I feel like that's a reminder.

So I'd say, yeah, first round five is a good one. Yeah, that's good. It was so sweet. Mom Mokey said, you know the verse that's been hitting me lately? And this was like the day before he passed. And we were all sitting outside of his room. I said, what's that? She said, and I thought it was going to be a verse about heaven or a verse about dying.

And she said, but the greatest of these is love. And she said, because that was my great love. And she said, that's been the love of my life. And she said, I've always been faithful to him. I've always been by his side. And of course, she had dad. And he wasn't always faithful to me, but I was faithful to him. And it's just, it's true.

I mean, their love is like something out of a movie, you know? Like, it was very notebook like, you know. My friend told me that. She was like, it's so notebook. And I was like, yes, it really is. And then everyone started, like, talking about it. And I was like, no, like it actually is. Is it more notebook than people even know?

Because whenever they. were separated for like a month because she was in the physical therapy and he was there they like could not sleep at night she was so mad she was in such a bad mood like when you would go visit her because she just wanted to be with him and like the first day that she got there he like slept on the floor basically beside her like it's like he finally had peace because they were together again and it's just so sweet like you it truly is like you you don't see that a lot you don't hear that a lot and I love how you said the world settles for like so much less than what god actually actually, like, intended love to be.

Yeah. I want you to unpack a little bit more because you said this isn't go as deep as you want it to be when you started talking about love. Like, what do you feel, I don't know, just being in college and seeing people get engaged and seeing that, like, what do you feel like, I don't know, even the exact even question for this? I think I'm just really inspired by how you are not choosing to settle when it would be so easy to.

And, like, what encouragement would you get to girls who are obviously, like, in college, and it's hard because love is like talked about everywhere. The Bachelorette is like what everybody's watching. Like everybody wants to be in a relationship. What's keeping you just content in the day to day? Friends, you know that I am not about sharing an Instagram filter version of my life on, whoa, that's good. Sometimes days are just hard. Life is crazy, especially when you have kids running around and just be a little messy.

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and like to see how it's so like equally yoked, like, you know, Brighton bad day, he's like, I'll pay to all the kids, like, don't even worry. And like, he'll cook dinner after he's worked all day. It's like, that's what I want and that's not really what I'm seeing. And like, just like the guys in general. It's like, if I, this is my thing is like, if I could be in a relationship, I definitely, like, I definitely could, but, like, I don't want to be in one with the people that are, like, trying to be in one with me right now. It's just like, I don't know. And I know, like, I also have peace about it from the Lord. Like, no, that's not. It's not the one. And something, which this, like, kind of, like, rocked me. I saw it on a video. And it was, like, women are picking men. Like, oh, he's so, like, he's so fine. Like, he's so fine. Like, he's so. cute like while he's six four like he plays sports and they're like he this man is going to have to help guide you through the death of both your parents like the biggest things are going to go through

and i was like oh yeah you don't think about that at first so my thing is if they say like one thing that's kind of like uh i'm i'm out because especially like if it's inappropriate about women or just inappropriate in general because i've never heard my dad say that never heard my brother say that. And if I hear a guy say that in front of me, I'm like, yeah, no. Yeah. Like, not your guy. No. That's so good. I mean, I always tell my friends that, like, some my friends who aren't married and they're

like, struggle with that. I'm like, but you could be married. It's not that you haven't had the opportunities, it's that you chose not to be because that wasn't your person. Like, and I think so many girls feel like when they're single, they're like desperate. It's like, if you can be single and not get to that place to desperate, that's

when you make the better decisions, you know, because if you were desperate for a relationship, you wouldn't care what the guy said. You'd be like, well, he's cute. Well, he's sweet to me. Well, whatever. Like, I can overlook. And no one's perfect. You got to, like, give grace. And they have to give you grace because you're not perfect. But also, it's like, but there is a standard. There is something you're looking for. There is something. Because, again, like, people do not think about the things that really matter when it comes to marriage. Like, this is the father of your children. Yes. Is this going to be the person that walks through hard things in life? And it's really cool because

Christian and I, you know, have almost been married six years and we've never walked through a death until this together. And I've never gotten to receive love from him in this capacity that I have now. And I have been so blown away. And it's like meant so much. It's like so sweet. I mean, backing up to like December when pebble-lawful first started going downhill, he's like, do you want to watch Duck Dynasty? And like, we can just talk about him. And of course, I'd just cry and it'd be so sweet. And then like the week he passed, like just gave me so many hugs. like, what do you need? Do you need to take a bath? Do you want me to take the kids? And I was just so thankful I married a man with that much compassion. And of course, I didn't know exactly how he

was going to be in that because we had never lost one before, but I had seen enough to know the way that he took care of me. And I would always say, like, he's such a strong person, but he was so sweet to me and so tender to me. And like, yeah, you want to see a man that, like, reserves a spot in his heart for you that's, like, tender. He loves you, like, the love of the Lord, you know? I think that's why it's so cool to read verses like John, like in John where it's like no one's ever seeing God, but we see God through the way that we love one another. His love is perfected in us. It's like there's something so amazing about the fact that we love a God who is love and therefore can embody by the power of his spirit the love of God to one another.

And like, what a gift. And so I love that you're not settling. I love that you're like, no, I don't need that. I know. I feel like my mom sometimes is like, you should just go on a date. And I'm like, like like I don't know some guys like especially here like they know my parents and so my mom's like just like and so she's honestly convinced me to go on some dates and then I'm like I really am just like I come back home like no she's like well I want to sleep proud of even put yourself out there I always think it's good to take the date because you never know and never know but I always like kind of know beforehand I'm like mom she's like really pushing me but now she's like that was more like I guess more like in the past yeah but now she's like I trust you actually like you have good judgment. Like, I trust you. I know, like, exactly, like, you are not. I'm not just one that's just going to, like, dive. And I'm like, oh, maybe it'll work out. No. Like, I'm like, nope. And my mom,

like, isn't like that as much, but she, like, trust me. And that where she's like, I wouldn't do that. But, like, that's what needs to be done for me. Well, you clearly, like, hear from the Lord and feel confident to go where he says go or to not whenever you don't feel like you need to. And I think that both are good because I think a lot of people hear from the Lord, when it's time to go, but a lot of people don't hear from the Lord when it's time to stay, you know? And I think to trust him in the just staying or trust him in the being single or trust him in the just being content with where you're at is like such a powerful thing that the world is not used to. And I'm always a fan of going on the dates because I think going on dates with so many different types of people

like made me really confident and knowing Christian was the one for me because I was like, oh, okay, like this is different than the other ones like there was something just different and it wasn't crazy different it was just like I love being around you I don't want to not be around you I want to talk to tomorrow like I just wanted more instead of coming home being like nope you know like you know but then some people are like I've never been on another date with anyone that's my husband that's my mom can't po-a-ville so to each their own but yeah I feel like I've been on so many bad dates that I'm like it takes me a lot of you would admit like say I'll go on a date I've been on so many bad ones I'm like wow I don't know like how we're going to go another day again like this was terrible

I really think I'm trying to convince my friend to start a podcast called I went on a date with and then they just tell bad dating stories like bad dates but then at the end of the podcast she has such a great idea for this because she's like what if I interview people and we talk about like bad dates we've been on but then at the end it's like someone like a memo okay who comes and tells her stories and then you have hope yeah because it's like both are true like we all go through the bad days, like things that people said to me on dates, I can't even believe. I'm like, that is shocking that happened. But then look at me a Christian now. Like, there's hope. I'm still waiting. I'm like, oh, the good one will come. Hold hope. They've just been like bad.

I feel like bad in a row. But, you know, I'm holding on hope. The hope is getting slim. But, you know, I hope he's about it. So it's like the word's timing. And I also think like with Cole, like my older brother like um especially here like people just get married young and um i was like oh no like if cole gets married like right out of high school like i feel like i'm gonna have so much pressure and like i just feel it's like oh my gosh like maybe everyone's supposed to do there's something wrong with me but like he like took his time and like just like waited and like dated you know girls for like a couple years and then they still didn't work out and like he's just waiting for his perfect person that he now has and was like that gave me so much piece of like

yeah like their love story is awesome like yeah just because it doesn't look like someone else's doesn't mean it's wrong yeah so she is so sweet she's literally the best she's like oh i'm so glad you looked out you got the best brother's the best sister-in-laws and they looked out too i literally like i just love i just love our family so much and like you don't know like oh they're like the glue now like they're the missing piece and so like they come in and just like oh yeah like this is awesome that's so So it's giving me peace, just a lot of peace. And, like, also, my parents are great because they have no pressure. They love being grandparents.

Like, they're like, yep, yeah, it don't matter. Like, you take your time, like, and that's really important. Sometimes it's hard, like, you know, walking that pressure, and it definitely is definitely here. It's awesome. Especially, like, just in college, it's hard. It is hard. Well, I think, like, you handle the pressure so well because so many people let pressure make them go to Ireland, even though they're not supposed to, or they let pressure, make them,

them go date somebody that they shouldn't, you know. And I think the fact that you can say, like, okay, the pressure's there, but the pressure is not going to push me. Like, the thing that's going to push me is being obedient to my Lord's light on my heart. And you walk that out so beautifully. As always, Mia, it is a pleasure to get to talk to you and get to just hear what God's doing in your life. I'm always so inspired and leave a better person.

Last time you were on the podcast, I called your mom. I was like, they're so amazing. Like, Jason, Mia were so good. You just have raised such an amazing. daughter. I just want to tell you. And I feel the same way again. I'm just like, man, I'm not that much older than you. So I don't say I'm proud of you because I'm older than you. I just say I'm proud of you as a sister and a friend. Like, I'm just proud of the way you live your life. I'm proud to know you to be your cousin, to be your family. And I'm so thankfully

you took the time to come answer some questions. Well, I'm proud too. I feel like anytime like people at school, like they're like, oh, like, oh, like, is say you like really that awesome? I'm like, yes. Like literally like, and I think there's some people where you're like, oh, like, oh, yeah, they're so great but it's like no I'm like buy her book like yes like she's literally a queen you're like always with a hype girl I will always be your hype girl like actually and I just feel like anytime like there's like a hate comment on your post I'm like it makes me so upset I'm like y'all know her you would never say this I can't even remember what happened one time it somebody was being rude and you were with Bella and Bella was telling me the stuff you were saying

about the fact that they were saying that about me and I was like me it's such a real one that I love her so much. Like, they must have never met you. Like, they must have not. Like, but yeah. So I'm like, say a defender forever. You are the greatest. That is so funny.