WHOA That's Good Podcast - Obeying God When It Doesn’t Make Sense Yet | Sadie Robertson Huff | Maisey Redman | Emily Beaney

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Londoners — and besties — Maisey Redman and Emily Beaney join Sadie for a real talk about calling, purpose, ministry, finding home in new places, and what it actually looks like to say yes to what God’s telling you to do. They also share why they’re both fired up about revival happening in the UK. Maisey just moved back to London and opens up about the powerful moment she knew God had seen her and heard her prayers — it was His way of saying, you’re exactly where you’re meant to be. Emily shares how she first stepped into the influencer world and how she’s turned her platform into a ministry that points everything back to Jesus. The two also get honest about not being the “cool girls” growing up, why that’s ended up being one of the best things for their faith, and how they’ve learned to walk closely with God—even when life feels a little lonely. Listen to UK MP Danny Kruger's speech in the House of Commons on "Christian Restoration in the UK" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JlYf_VGv64 This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://www.ponchooutdoors.com/whoa — Get $10 of and free shipping on your first order! https://covenanteyes.com/sadie — Visit the website to learn more and start your journey toward a healthier, stronger marriage today. Start taking your sleep seriously with AGZ. Head to https://drinkag1.com/whoa to get a FREE Welcome Kit with the flavor of your choice that includes a 30-day supply of AGZ and a FREE frother - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's such an amazing chat. then a bee almost took us out and Emily's allergic to bees which I didn't know at the time which you didn't even mention you were so low key about that once I got stung I had a wellie on

a wellie boot It's like a walking boot It's like a walking boot It started already What you wear when it's raining But I was wearing one at a Christian conference And a bee went in my boot Stung it

Stung me and then my leg blew up and then they had to cut the boot off me. No, are you kidding me? I just swell up. You really were chill because I was like, we should go inside because there's a bee. I'm actually so chill around bees. Because I remember someone telling me,

you just have to be still. And so I'm, so I just sit still because I'm like, I would rather you just float around, give me some attention and then leave, then sting me. Give me some attention. This is one of the best things about traveling and doing life with Emily

is that there's never a dull moment. She's the best storyteller. there's always a story like a bee got in my wellie and that makes no sense to remember okay what is really funny about this is that so there was some other girls from london here who i adore we had coffee together too and you know it's really funny because we speak english but there's a lot of differences and things that we say one of the things that they were saying which i learned from you was um which i'm going to budge it uh cheeky snog snoggy no that is yeah what what was What's it?

Cheeky snog. A cheeky snog. That's cheek. That is quite cheek. For five seconds, think to yourself, what do you think a cheeky snog is? Okay. Now share the results. This feels naughty to say.

It's just like a, um, I feel this feels naughty. It's just like a kiss, a kiss. A kiss with someone, maybe you shouldn't. A kiss with when you're in a committed relationship. Well, it's so funny. Is our friend was telling us this. And she was telling it to my friends, so Sarah Gracie and Laney are there. Yeah.

They didn't know what this was. So she was in the middle of telling us about how her and her boyfriends started dating. And she was like, and there was a cheeky snog in the church. And we thought she meant, like, everyone thought she meant there was someone in there who was, like, there was someone in their church who was rude to them. Like, there was someone who was like snobby. That was a cheeky snobby. Like she was cheeky and snobby. And then I was like, that doesn't mean that.

They were kissing in the church. It was just funny. And then she was like, I fancied a few boys before him. Like, I fancied. I wish we said something like that. We have like crushes fancies. Yeah. And then she kept saying like that things were lovely,

but it would be like something very chill. And I love that. I kept saying, oh my golly. And everyone at Congress would go golly. I always say, oh my golly instead of oh my gosh. I love it. We're going to pick up on some of these things. And we might need some pause and define what that is along the way.

But yes, everyone in America obviously loves. a British accent. So people are already just tuned into this podcast and loving everything we're talking about. But tell us, like, you guys are living in London, which is such a dream, such a dream destination, one of my favorite places that we get to travel to. So tell us what is a typical day in London for you guys look like? Well, Macy's is crazy because you actually walk past Buckingham Palace every day on her way to work. Yes, the king lives. I know. I know. So I just moved back to England. So I've been living in America for such a long time. And I, it's so interesting because I would have never thought that my next move to England, I would be in the center of London.

I work in the center of London right now. So I was just praying that in the right timing I'd get to come back. But now I'm literally in the center walking past the palace every day. Wow. So my every day is where people travel from across the world to come and see. Wow. And right outside of where the offices that I work, you walk down the street and you can stand on this golden plaque and it signifies the center of the city. So I can see Trafalgar Square or like all of all of the places that tourists would go.

So my day's day life, you just can't make it up. It's like this extraordinary, yeah, daily, just on my lunch break, just go and walk to the palace or go and watch the changing of the guards, which is on a Wednesday. and you can go see all their guards, the king's guards. Wow. It's so cool, yeah. We're going to circle back to that later because you told me a bit about just how God even has been speaking to you about being in the center of London, because even though it's so many people's dream to live in London, it's such a huge move for you, which is really hard.

Any transition, any move for anyone is tough. And so just what God's been speaking. So we'll circle back. Emily, tell us a little about what your days look like. My days, well, I do social media full time. So my days are a lot of going out with girls in London, getting brunches, taking pictures out on the streets. It's like the classic, like, I do like fashion stuff. So we stand on a street awkwardly and take photos of our outfits.

Which is like, oh, that is like, imagine telling someone from like Joseph's era, like the Egyptians. Imagine telling an Egyptian, girls stand on the street and they take pictures or like a Victorian child. Like they stand on the street, they take a picture. They post it and then like that's their job. They're like up a chimney sweeping and I'm like, well, my job is I take pictures of my clothes. Like, how would they react? I would love to one day go back in time and tell them. That really is actually funny to think about.

I always think about that with people in the Bible. I mean, this is very convicting. But I think about that if Paul was like learning about social media and he was like, happy with me. Yeah, he was, he'd be like, oh, so you. have access to share the message of Jesus to this many people at any time you want by just pressing the button where we're all at the hub you're at the hub and dad's whole message about how much Paul moved and how he went here and he went there and then he was sailing here like how

much he had to physically get up and go to get the message out and we like have access it really is crazy but you are sharing the gospel you are merging faith and fashion in a way that not many people are doing and it's it's really epic so I want to dive into all that But you guys, one thing about London, that's pretty cool. You guys walk, like, most everywhere. Everywhere. It's been so weird driving here. It's, that is interesting.

In America, this has been, I don't want to speak in to generalize. But most times, if you go on a walk, you get in the car and you drive somewhere to walk. And in England, I will just walk to the station, walk to work, what to go get lunch. And I check my phone. I've done 10,000 steps. You just don't even think about it. It's completely different culture. You have to, like, work to get 10,000 steps here.

Yeah, you see so many tick. talks and the girls are like um how i keep my physique 10,000 steps a day come down to the beach with me and I'm like what do you mean you have to go down to like what do you mean you're making it happen? I'm like do you not just do it like is that just not happening and they're like I drive to the gym and then I go down to the beach I do my 10k steps do Pilates I'm like go you're a very good action. It's so good which by the way um maisie got us a paddington book and I was reading it to honey and honey then wanted me to read it like maisie which was a challenge, I think I did pretty good.

But then she upped the challenge and said, now I'll read it, like, Emily. And so I got my accent a little bit more uppity, and I crushed it. And she was actually like, well, it was pretty good. So I'm working on my accent as well. I'm super excited about it. But, no, I love London.

I love the culture. I love the walking everywhere. One thing that is funny, too, about you guys that's different than Americans, is when we go on a walk, We wear, like, athletic clothes. Leisure. Y'all never wear athletic clothes.

You always look cute. Yeah, we wear, like, I'd wear what I wore every day. If I'm going on a hike, like, I'm going up the mountain, I'm going to wear my salamans, and I'm going to wear my, like, an Arcterix. But if I'm going on or just a walk, that's just a normal day. I love it. Yeah, it's interesting. When I was in London, I was very inspired by, like, most people wear cute outfits.

Yeah. And piece it all together, fun. And I'm like, okay, wow, I can take some of this back to America. This is a good thing. So anyways, I just love your culture. I love everything about it. I'm super glad y'all are here to dive into all of this. Okay, let's be honest, sister.

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London because when you're on the podcast last, you're living here, then you get to move back home for a bit, which I know is so special. And what was God doing in your heart to call you all the way back to London while your family's here? Yes. So it's been a long journey. And I never really knew when people said, where's home for you? I'm sure lots of girls can relate to this. You know, their dad might be in the military or they've had parents who have had to move around a lot. Maybe they've grown up in a missionary family. You sort of grew up and you're like, where, where's home for me? When people ask me, where, like, where's home to you?

I would sit and think, actually don't know because I am British. That's my citizenship. But I've lived so much of my life in America. So never quite knew where, where am I from? Where do I belong? Where do I see my life going? Where am I, if I get married one day, where do I see myself settling down? So when I was in university in Chicago, these are questions I was asking, where do I see myself going?

Where do I want to lay down roots? Because I've had this privileged problem of getting to live in five different states and so many places, three countries. But yeah, actually, there's a certain point where you think, I want to lay down a route somewhere. I want to belong somewhere. And someone told me that you bear a certain kind of fruit when you're rooted somewhere. So it's not a bad thing to be called lots of different places. But there's a certain fruit. Yes, when you can be known by a community and you walk with them and you can put roots down.

So I remember being in college and I woke up one morning and there was a census that came out in England and the headline read Christianity is now the minority faith in England and I did not expect to have this reaction but I burst out crying which completely surprised me because before I was. I had moved to America when I went to boarding school, high school in England, I was the girl, I went to a Hindu festival and I completely rejected my faith. I was, I genuinely in my mind was thinking, how am I going to keep relationship with people because I'm not going to be a Christian? I decided that I was going to, you know, completely change my life. And so what a contrast from living in England, literally going into a gathering of another faith and other gods, to then sitting, reading that headline and being grieved that Christianity was now the minority faith. And even here, I wrote down some statistics.

So in 2001, when I was one years old, were you one as well? No, I was zero. Oh, that's so cute. So in 2001. 71.7% of the population identified as Christian. in 2011 so this is in england in 2011 59.3% identified as christian in 2021 46.2% of the UK population identified as christian and the decrease of that so that in 2021 the decrease if you look at the age demographic it's the younger generations who are deciding i don't identify as a Christian

or i don't identify with any faith and so you know i don't think that's the age demographic it's the younger generations who are deciding i don't identify as a christian or i don't identify with any faith. And so, you know, I don't think I understood then, but that bitter response of crying for like a week, I could not stop crying. I almost had this moment, which I now know was the Holy Spirit, I believe it was, this whisper inside of me of this is, you know, you have to follow the tears, follow the tears. If you're, if you're reading something about an injustice or you're reading about a problem and it sparks emotion and you follow that don't ignore that follow the tears and so for me it was a really simple but long process of following the tears and then I graduated university and I was in a prayer room the and that night

which is so interesting now I'm just remembering this that night was the night that our friendship started wow so we had met very briefly I think before but that was really the night our friendship started we were in the prayer room and we had this conversation about England and faith and I remember thinking I'd love to be friends with this girl like I live in America but I hope we get to keep in contact

so crazy actually now she's sitting next to me but we were sitting in this in this prayer room and this girl was doing a drawing at the front she's doing what's called like a prophetic drawing sometimes in churches

people would do a painting or something and so she was doing this drawing and I wasn't paying that much attention but then at the end of the at the end of the night she I saw that it was a windmill and I thought that's so funny because I was just visiting England for a little bit of the summer when I landed I went straight to a windmill and my godfather said to me Maisie God's going to bring you home to England one day and then I'm in this prayer room and this girl's

during a windmill and I thought that's so interesting so I just I walked up to it and I was looking at it and the girl came up to me and she said is this does this resonate and I said well I don't know if it resonates, but I just landed and went to a windmills. I thought this is really cool. And she said, actually, I want you to know that God's been highlighting you to me the whole worship night. He wants you to know, she didn't know anything about me. She says she wants you to know the winds are changing and God is going to bring you home. She didn't know I lived in America. And so she says this to me and she says, but you're going to have to give up control because you're holding on to the control. You want to know how it's going to be. You want to know the timing. This is in

23. Wow. But God's got the timing. You need to trust him. And it's going to be something you feel and the job that God's going to invite you into, you're going to feel so unqualified. It's going to be so different to what you're doing. And for context, I was working with children, doing homeschooling, tutoring, nannying. And fast forward now, it's a very long story, but fast forward now, it was a long time of waiting, so many doors closing. There was a sudden moment where so quickly the doors opened and it was time to come home and there's a verse that says that the doors in which God opens no man can shut and the doors that God shuts no man can open and I felt that way when when he opened the door and it was time to come back I actually was

loving my life in California I loved my church I finally found the right friends like I just hit this sweet spot I love my job but it was time to come home the winds were changing and I got invited to do, I actually interviewed and was able to do a job that was exactly that the word said so different to what I thought I would do. I felt so unqualified, but God spoke it. And every day since then, he's qualified me, qualified me for what I needed for every single day, so different to what I was doing before. And I think, just to wrap it up, I think, I would love to read this if this is okay.

So there's an MP, so he's a member of parliament. His name's Danny Kruger And he is an incredible man of faith So in England it is not It's not a badge of honour And it's not popular to be a Christian If you say you're a Christian you mean it If you go to church

I think you want to be there It's not that culture where I just go Because it's culture I think just my perspective is It is costly to be seen as a Christian in England When I was there I felt that everybody who went to church Was on fire

Like sold out because if statistics are 46.2% and it's a minority, you're not going because it's cool. You're not going because it's just what you do on a Sunday. You're going. It comes with the cost and you're going because you really have encountered the Lord. And that's what it seemed like. So I love church culture there because it was smaller than the church is here, but it was on fire. It was very exciting. It was very exciting.

But it didn't mean to interrupt you. I just experienced that when we were there. No, but that's good because we've grown up in England. So to hear your perspective, I mean, that's so encouraging. that's what you picked up on because we feel that too it was incredible it's like sunday service was one of my favorites ever because it actually felt like the church and looked like the church you'd see an axe like there was space for prayer space for if the Lord was speaking a word just reading of the scripture after the sermon was done it was just so like what

the church should look like in my opinion because it just it looked a lot like acts you know And I feel like our churches should model what the early church, you know, launched and began. It should prayer, scripture, words, space for God to actually move. It wasn't like as programmed as we experience here. And everyone there just, you could tell they went because they wanted to be there. So that was very refreshing. It was very refreshing. We were teary-eyed.

It was beautiful. It's beautiful. What was you're quite amazed? So it's by Danny Kruger. And if anyone's actually interested, as I'm reading this, if anyone's interested, you can actually go into YouTube and put in Danny Kruger a message about Christianity and culture. And it's a beautiful message. Even if you're not from England, it will speak straight to the heart of where you are in your town

and where your school, I think it speaks to everybody. So he delivers this message in the House of Commons, which if you don't know, this is a group of people who are members of parliament who are serving. the UK government and they act as voices for people in different parts of the country and they speak about different issues trying to create solution and so he's basically Danny Kruger's coming into the House of Commons and he is talking about the issue of Christianity in culture and that England is historically a British is a Christian country founded on Christian values and England is has

has created some of the most incredible men and women of the faith, like William Wilberforce, who led the movement of the abolition of the slave trade. And some of the hymns that we sing all around the world have come from, like, British people who have been hymn writers. And so there's such a rich culture of faith in England that is, it's like a deep, deep world of faith. And at this point right now in history, we're seeing in England, that there's a separation of the church and state. If we look back historically, every time that's happened, there's been total chaos. And so he's basically saying this is why we should not separate the church and the state.

Here's why it's not a good idea. But it's basically a call for a new restoration and for the UK to return to its Christian values. And so he says, this is a quote, he says, a wind is blowing, a storm is coming. And when it hits, we are going to learn if our house is built on the rock or something. sand well the strong gods are back and we have to choose which god to worship i suggest we worship the god who came in weakest form jesus christ and um well i it's so and and and even what he says in that message too he says he says god is a jealous god so he's not even just saying you know our country should be built on christian values we should um we should serve the community we should he's saying

actually this country should be built on Christ not just the values but mind Christ and he speaks and just lastly just to wrap up sorry I'm talking for ages but he speaks about these two things he says thin religion and thick religion so thin religion is a country built on on just on just the values and just trying to do the right thing and you know just going to church once a week

that's thin that's brittle it breaks when the winds come and the storm comes that breaks doesn't it? Yep. But the thick religion he's saying is people who genuinely believe that Jesus he died on the cross he was beaten, he was marred beyond human resemblance

he died on the cross for our sins because we're all sinners and we couldn't do it by ourselves. He died on the cross he was buried and he rose again and in his resurrection we have eternal life and hope and so you've got these people now we're living in a time where they're

preaching the gospel in the House of Commons and they're bullied for it and teased for it and mocked but it's like these seeds are being sown and so when the storm comes I just believe there's going to be fruit in our country we're going to see so much fruit

because of these people who are so faithful like Danny Kruger. It's so great Meezy Okay friends Real Talk when life gets busy the first things to go are usually the things that really matter maybe you're juggling classes social stuff, work, maybe even a relationship, and before you know it,

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there's so many things I want to say about what you just said but one thing I want to shout out and just make it personal to those who are listening you know a country is made up of individual people right and so like it's got to be what the people bring and I think so many times we think oh if our government would do something about that if someone would do something about that

I wish you know some crazy revival would break out But it's like, it starts with you. The Bible starts with you. You're a part of the change. And so you have to ask yourself, like, do I have thin faith? Do I have fake faith? So everyone has to look at their life and say, like, nothing's going to change until my foundation is Christ, you know, until I catch fire, until I repent and come to the Lord. And I think one thing that I love about you so much is how deeply personal you take what's happening in the world around you.

Like, following the tears, it's that prayer. like break my heart for what breaks your sword and when you break my heart for it I'm actually got to like go and be a part of the change and I love how you said like I went back home and all of this is attached to your going back home because you're realizing there's a problem there's a lack of faith I'm a believer I'm on fire I want to go be a part of the change and the work that you do not everybody knows what you do but you are in that change and I think everyone has to realize like they have to take the gospel personally. You have to take your relationship with God personally.

You have to take the things that are going on in the world, the darkness personally, and realize that it's your job to respond. And I think too many people just go, hope somebody does that. But it makes me think of Nehemiah. You make me think of Nehemiah because his heart broke for what broke to the Lord's.

He was like the weeping prophet. He would cry about what was happening to Jerusalem. And he was a cupbearer of the king. Like, not the guy you would have thought was about to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. but yet his heart broke for it and he was positioned beside the king and so what did he do he used what he had where he had it his influence and he began to you know talk to the king about the problems gone on Jerusalem and then he was able to go back and rebuild the walls but he didn't do it himself

like there was an army of individual people who also took on the personal responsibility to use their gifting to grow the kingdom and I just that story makes me think so much of both of you but particularly with what you just shared, you going back. And I love that you said I went back home because you started by saying, I don't know what home is, but, like, you know that's home. And I think that's really cool, too, because home is, I was thinking about this other day when I was talking about being in London, and I said, and then we went back home. And I was like, I mean, to the hotel.

Because for me, I've taught our girls this since we travel a lot. I always tell them, like, home is wherever we are. So, like, if we're together, we're home, you know. And I feel that. I feel such a sense of home when we're together. And so it's sweet because I'm like, oh, we went back home. It doesn't matter like where we're staying. Like, and I know this is home.

Obviously, we're planted in Louisiana. We're so grateful for that. We have our home here. But also I want our girls to feel that like safety of like wherever we go. Like there's a sense of home. And I think home is where you're called to be at that time. You know, if you're called to be in London at a time, even if your family and your house is here, that's home right now. if we're called to be in London for two weeks, which is such a small amount of time.

And I'm like, let's make this feel as much like home as we can. And it's because this is where we're called to be right here right now. And so just to encourage those who are listening, you know, you might feel like, man, I want to feel that sense of home. I want to feel that sense of grounding. And I think there are places, obviously, that you get to plant roots. But if you're not in that season yet where you can't establish roots, I do think you can create an environment of home. to feel, you know, confident in where God's placed you. Emily, I want to talk to you because when we were in London, we get to have lunch.

And what is so cool, the way we met is I needed a babysitter for Honey and Haven because I wanted them to feel like home. I wanted them to have fun while I was doing work. And so I was like, man, it would just be so great if someone could come watch them and make it fun. And Masey recommended you. And you were like, well, I do social media full time now. So I have time. Free time.

And whenever I did a Zoom call with you, you were like so cute. You were wearing this sweatshirt. It was like, I love Jesus. I can't remember what it was something like that with your cute little blouse over it. And you were just like asking me if they knew about these toys in London, all this stuff. I was like, oh, she is going to make this so fun. And you did. You blew me away.

I was like taking videos of all of the little things that you created for them, the space you created. So your heart is just so beautiful. But I was so thankful we got to have lunch for a bit. And you were telling me that there's not many influencers in London who are sharing their faith. And you're actually kind of telling me about what a typical influencer in London looks like. I want you to speak to that because here in America, there's a lot of influencers who are Christians and sharing their faith. Like that's a very popular thing, which is amazing and so great. But people, like I want you to wrap your mind around what you're doing.

Here it's common. There it is not common. So talk about how God begin to call you into that and what culture looks like in that area. Honestly, I did not want to really do that whole life. I wanted to be a farmer growing up. I can milk cows. I can shear sheep. I would go in like work on farms up north in Lancashire in England, which is like up north.

And I would spend my half times going and doing work experience on farms. And my dream, I remember I used to go out onto fields and I would feel like David and I would pray out like, Lord, would I end up in these fields? Would this be where you bring me to? and I remember someone actually gave me a word when I was like around 15 which was when my heart was for farming and she was like I see he was a David and she was like but David was the shepherd but he was actually then brought out to be a king and he had to influence people and I remember being like that is not my thing I grew up with amazing and I talk about this I didn't have friends growing up and we didn't really have good friends I was bullied all the way through school I used to wear wellies to school those rain boots because I wanted to be a farmer so bad I would do gardening in my lunch breaks at school because I wanted to be outside so bad. I was just like that weird kid that everyone thought was really strange and like very, very uncool. And so when I remember someone saying to me like, I see you as a David, yes, you're in the fields right now, but he's going to bring you out into leading. I was like, that's not for me. And I actually said, I really love, I remember

saying like something along the lines of like, I really love that you speak to people like that, but I actually don't think that words for me. And I got given that word at nearly every like all the time I would be at a church conference or I'd be a church or I'd be at a youth group and someone would say I see like leadership over your life and I'm a really shy person like with crowds like I have the most insane stage right you've ever met like of someone you've ever met in your life like I'm so surprising even like speaking in front of like 15 people would I would like my heart I'd be like oh my gosh like even coming on here I was like sat and my foot was shaking and I was like that little I can tell when she's never so she was I literally shook and I was like

stop shaking your foot there's only there's a couple people in here and that made me nervous and I'm like every time someone would say to me I see this leadership calling your life I'd say that's really kind but I actually don't think that's for me and I used to always say to people like oh people always give the same words to everyone they always say you're going to be a leader and my friends would be like I didn't get that word and I'm like no no they'll give it to you every Christian I always call you a butterfly that's going to bloom you're a flower that's in the field that the Lord sees and you're a leader like I feel like those are the three things that people would say. And so then I just would reject it, reject it, reject it, reject it, reject it. And then I was

working at a jewelry stand, actually, for my friend, Annika. She's an amazing company called Recognise. And in it, their company, the whole point is they recognize people. And she said to me, Emily, this is so weird, but I think you're going to influence so many people with your life. And I remember being like, well, that's a different way of saying. It influence those people. And I really respected her. And I looked at her as like, She's this amazing business woman who started a company that, you know, gives back to people with, like, what they do with their charity work. And I was like, wow, you're like an amazing woman of God and you're telling me I'm going to influence people. Like, that's really big.

I remember being like, oh, thanks, Anika. Like, people have always said that I'm going to do leadership stuff, but that scares me. And she was like, well, you know, pray about it. Like, I think you are going to influence people. And I'm still wanting to be a farmer. So I'm like, in the fields I'm going to influence all the sheep. And then I actually had deleted Instagram because I felt it was all fake. And so, you know, I did the cool kid thing and I deleted it.

I was like, goodbye. I was like 19. I was like, goodbye Instagram. And then a few years later I felt, well, a bit later I felt the Lord would be like, in worship, I just kept hearing, you know, get Instagram. I'm like, you know, people always say measure up what the Lord's saying to you based on what the Bible says and like how he speaks in the Bible. I'm like, in the Bible, it does not tell you seek validation, seek, seek followers, seek

so I was like, this doesn't seem like the Lord. It's just my head. I want an excuse to download it and see what everyone's up to. And I just literally, every worship time, I'd hear it. And I'd be like, I think I have to get Instagram back. And I remember I downloaded Instagram and I put the most cringe thing up. I took a photo of me holding flowers in a field. And I literally posted the thing being like, Jesus loves you, blah, blah, blah.

And I was like, that's it. that's what I'm meant to be doing. And then I just felt from the Lord be like, I want you to post joyful, fun things for your friends and family. And I was like, okay, you know, he's not telling me to try and be an influencer and puff up my lips and, you know, move to L.A. This sounds fine. So I'd literally start posting for a while. Just literally, if you scroll down, they're literally just videos of me being like, here's my outfit and like, here's what I'm doing.

And then it came to February two years ago and I felt the Lord said, I want you to post every day till June. And I'm like, what? My friends and family are going to think I'm a freak. Like, why would they? No one wants to see me on their 4-U page every day. I do it, whatever. We have some London girls here. Lazy, who you guys know, and Emily, welcome to the podcast.

Hi, thanks how are we are. This is such a lovely way to end our trip. I know, truly. I mean, just for context, y'all, we were sitting on my backport. each other day, chatting. He had such an amazing chat. Then a bee almost took us out and Emily's alerted to bees, which I didn't know at the time, which you didn't even mention. You were so low-key about that. Well, yeah. Once I got stung, I had a wellie on. A wellie boot. Sorry, it's like a walking boot. Yeah, like your Wellington boots. It started already. What you wear when it's

raining. But I was wearing one at a Christian conference and a bee went in my boot. Stung it. stung me and then my my leg blew up and then they had to cut the boot off me no are you kidding i just swell up it's not like you really were chill because i was like we should go inside because there's a bee i'm actually so chill around bees like because i remember someone telling me you just have to be still and so that i'm so i just sit still because i'm like i would rather you just float around give me some attention and then leave then sting me give me some attention like hey this is one of the best things about traveling and doing life with emily is that There's never a dull moment.

She's the best storyteller. There's always a story, like a bee got in my wellie. And that makes no sense to America. Okay, what is really funny about this is that, so there were some other girls from London here who I adore. We had coffee together too. And, you know, it's really funny because we speak English, but there is a lot of differences in things that we say. One of the things that they were saying, which I learned from you, was which I'm going to bodge it. cheeky snog

snoggy No that is What's it Cheeky snog A cheeky snog That's cheek That is quite Five seconds

Think to yourself What do you think a cheeky snog is Okay Now share the results This feels naughty to say It's just like a I feel this feels naughty It's just like a kiss

A kiss with someone Maybe you shouldn't A kiss with When you're in a committed relationship Well it's so funny is our friend was telling us this, and she was telling it to my friends, so Sarah Gracie and Laney are there. They didn't know what this was.

So she was in the middle of telling us about how her and her boyfriends started dating. And she was like, and there was a cheeky snog in the church. And we thought she meant, like everyone thought she meant there was someone in there was someone in their church who was rude to them. Like there was someone who was like snobby. She was cheeky and snobby. And then I was like, that doesn't mean that. They were kissing in the church.

It was just funny. And then she was like, I fancied a few boys before him. Like, I fancied. I fancied, yeah. I wish we said something like that. We have like crushes fancies. Yeah. And then she kept saying like that things were lovely.

But it would be like something very chill. And I love that. I kept saying, oh my golly. And everyone at conference would go go golly. I always say, oh my golly instead of oh my gosh. I love it. We're going to pick up on some of these things. And we might need some pause and define.

what that is along the way. But yes, everyone in America obviously loves the British accent. So people are already just tuned into this podcast and loving everything we're talking about. But tell us, like, you guys are living in London, which is such a dream, such a dream destination.

One of my favorite places that we get to travel to. So tell us what is a typical day in London for you guys look like? Well, Macy's is crazy because you actually walk past Buckingham Palace every day on her way to work. Yes, the king lives. I know. I know. So I just moved back to England. So I've been living in America for such a long time. And I, it's so interesting because I would have never thought that my next move to England, I would be in the center of London. I work in the center of London right now. So I was just praying that in the right timing I'd get to come back. But now I'm literally in the center walking past the palace every day.

Wow. So my every day is where people travel from across the world to come and see. And right outside of where the offices that I work, you walk down the street and you can stand on this golden plaque and it signifies the center of the city. So I can see Trafalgar Square or like all of all of the places that tourists would go. So my day's day life, you just can't make it up. It's like this extraordinary, yeah, day. just on my lunch break, just go and walk to the palace or go and watch the changing of the guards, which is on a Wednesday, and you can go see all the guards, the king's guards.

Wow. It's so cool, yeah. We're going to circle back to that later because you told me a bit about just how God even has been speaking to you about being in the center of London, because even though it's so many people's dream to live in London, it's such a huge move for you, which is really hard. Any transition, any move for anyone is tough. And so just what God's been speaking. So we'll circle back.

and like tell us a little about what your days look like my days well i do social media full time so my days are a lot of going out with girls in london getting brunches taking pictures out on the streets it's like the classic like i do like fashion stuff so we stand on a street awkwardly and take photos of our outfits which is like oh that is like imagine telling someone from like joseph's era like the egyptians imagine telling an egyptian girls stand on the street and they take pictures or like a Victorian child like they stand on the street they take a picture they post it and then like that's their job they're like up a chimney sweeping

and I'm like well my job is I take pictures of my clothes like how would they react I would love to one day go back in time and tell them that really is actually funny to think about I always think about that with people in the Bible I mean this is very convicting but I think about that if Paul was, like, learning about social media. And he was like... I didn't think you're happy with me. Yeah, he would be like, oh, so you have access to share the message of Jesus to this many people at any time you want by just pressing the button where you're all

at the hub, y'all were at the hub and dad's whole message about how much Paul moved and how he went here and he went there and then he was sailing here, like, how much he had to physically get up and go to get the message out and we like have access. It really is crazy. But you are sharing the gospel. You are merging faith and fashion in a way that not many people are doing, and it's really epic. So I want to dive into all that. But you guys, one thing about London, that's pretty cool, you guys walk, like most everywhere.

Everywhere. It's been so weird driving here. It's, that is interesting. In America, this has been, I don't want to speak to generalize, but most times, if you go on a walk, you get in the car and you drive somewhere to walk. And in England, I will just walk to the station, walk to work, walk to go get lunch. my phone. I've done 10,000 steps. You just don't even think about it. It's completely different culture. You have to like work to get 10,000 steps here. You see so many TikToks and the girls are like, how I keep my physique, 10,000 steps a day, come down to the beach with me. And I'm

like, what do you mean you have to go down to, like, what do you mean you're making it happen? I'm like, do you not just do it? Like, is that just not happening? And they're like, I drive to the gym and then I go down to the beach. I do my 10K steps, do Pilates. I'm like, go. You're a very good accent. It is so good. It's very good, which, by the way, Maisie got us a Paddington book, and I was reading it to Honey. And Honey then wanted me to read it like Maisie, which was a challenge. I think I did pretty good. But then she upped the challenge and said, now I read it like, Emily.

And so I got my accent a little bit more uppity, and I crushed it. And she was actually like, whoa, it was pretty good. So I'm working on my accent as well. I'm super excited about it. But, no, I love London. love the culture. I love the walking everywhere. One thing that is funny, too, about you guys that's different than Americans, is when we go on a walk, we wear, like, athletic clothes. Leisure. Y'all never wear athletic clothes. You always look cute. Yeah. We wear, like, I'd wear

what I wore every day. If I'm going on a hike, like, I'm going up the mountain, I'm going to wear my salamens, and I'm going to wear my, like, an arcterics. But if I'm going on or just a walk, that's just a normal day. I love it. Yeah, it's interesting. Like, when I was in London, I was very inspired. by like most people wear cute outfits and piece it all together fun and I'm like okay wow I can take some of this back to America this is a good thing so anyways I just love your culture I love everything about it I'm super glad y'all are here to dive into all of this okay let's be honest sister shopping for men in our lives can be so tough so whether that's your dad a husband a brother they usually have no idea what they want it's not helpful but y'all

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Go try one out. Maisie, let's talk a little bit about you moving back to London because when you're on the podcast last, you're living here, then you got to move back home for a bit, which I know is so special. And what was God doing in your heart to call you all the way back to London while your family's here? Yes.

So it's been a, it's been a, long journey. And I never really knew when people said, where's home for you? I'm sure lots of girls can relate to this. Their dad might be in the military or they've had parents who've had to move around a lot. Maybe they've grown up in a missionary family. You sort of grew up and you're like, where's home for me? When people ask me, where, like, where's home to you? I would sit and think, actually don't know because I am British. That's my citizenship. But I've lived so much of my life in America. So never quite knew where, where am I from? Where do I belong? Where do I see my life going? Where am I, if I get married one day, where do I see myself settling down?

So when I was in university in Chicago, these are questions I was asking, where do I see myself going? Where do I want to lay down roots? Because I've had this privileged problem of getting to live in five different states and so many places, three countries. But yeah, actually, there's a certain point where you think, I want to lay down a root somewhere. I want to belong somewhere. And someone told me that you bear a certain kind of fruit when you're rooted somewhere. So it's not a bad thing to be called lots of different places, but there's a certain fruit. Yes, when you can be known by a community and you walk with them and you can put roots down. So I remember being in college, you know, woke up one morning and there was a census that came out in England.

and the headline read Christianity is now the minority faith in England and I did not expect to have this reaction but I burst out crying which completely surprised me because before I had moved to America when I went to boarding school high school in England I was the girl I went to a Hindu festival and I completely rejected my faith I was I genuinely in my mind was thinking how am I going to keep relationship with people because I'm not going to be a Christian I decided that I was going to

completely change my life and so what a contrast from living in England literally going into a gathering of another faith and other gods to then sitting reading that headline and being grieved that Christianity

was now the minority faith and even here I wrote down some statistics so in 2001 when I was one years old were you one as well? No I was zero Oh, that's so cute. So in 2001, 71. 71.7% of the population identified as Christian. Wow.

In 2011, so this is in England. Wow. In 2011, 59.3% identified as Christian. In 2021, 46.2% of the UK population identified as Christian. And the decrease of that, so that in 2021, the decrease, if you look at the age, It's the younger generations who are deciding I don't identify as a Christian or I don't identify with any faith. And so, you know, I don't think I understood then, but that bitter response of crying for like a week, I could not stop crying. I almost had this moment, which I now know was the Holy Spirit, I believe it was, this whisper inside of me of this is, you know, you have to follow the tears.

Follow the tears. If you're reading something about an injustice or you're reading about a problem and it sparks emotion and you follow that. Don't ignore that. Follow the tears. And so for me it was a really simple but long process of following the tears.

And then I graduated university and I was in a prayer room. And that night, which was so interesting now, I'm just remembering this, that night was the night that our friendship started. Wow. So we had met very briefly, I think, before. But that was really the night our friendship started. We were in the prayer room and we had this conversation about England and faith. And I remember thinking, I'd love to be friends with this girl. I live in America. But I hope we get to keep in contact. So crazy actually now she's sitting next to me. But we were sitting in this prayer room and this girl was doing a drawing at the front. She's doing what's called like a prophetic drawing. Sometimes in churches, people would do a painting. something and so she was doing this drawing and I wasn't paying that much attention but then at the end of the

at the end of the night she I saw that it was a windmill and I thought that's so funny because I was just visiting England for that first for a little bit of the summer when I landed I went straight to a windmill and my godfather said to me maisie God's going to bring you home to England one day and then I'm in this prayer room and this girl's during a windmill and I thought that's so interesting so I just I walked up to it and I was looking at it and the girl came up to me and she said is this just this resonate and I said well I don't know if it resonates but I just landed and went to a windmill so I thought this is really cool and she said actually I want you to know that God's been highlighting you to me the whole worship night he wants you to know she didn't know anything about me she says

she wants you to know the winds are changing and God is going to bring you home she didn't know I lived in America. And so she says this to me and she says, but you're going to have to give up control because you're holding onto the control. You want to know how it's going to be. You want to know the timing. This is in 2023. Wow. But God's got the timing. You need to trust him. And it's going to be something you feel, yeah, and the job that God's going to invite you into, you're going to feel so unqualified. It's going to be so different to what you're doing. And for context, I was working with children, doing homeschooling, tutoring, nannying. And fast forward now, it's a very long story, but fast forward now, it was a long time of waiting, so many doors closing. There was a sudden

moment where so quickly the doors opened and it was time to come home. And there's a verse that says the doors in which God opens, no man can shut. And the doors that God shuts, no man can open. And I felt that way. When he opened the door and it was time to come back. I actually was loving my life in California. I loved my church. I finally found the right friends. Like I just hit this sweet spot. I love my job. But it was time to come home. The winds were changing. And I got invited to do. I actually interviewed and was able to do a job that was exactly that the word said so different to what I thought I would do. I felt so unqualified, but God spoke it. And every day since then, he's qualified me for what I needed for every single day.

So different to what I was doing before. And I think, just to wrap it up, I think, I would love to read this if this is okay. So there's an MP, so he's a member of Parliament. His name's Danny Kruger. And he is an incredible man of faith. So in England, it is not, it's not a badge of honour and it's not popular to be a Christian. If you say you're a Christian, you mean it. If you go to church, I think you want to be there.

It's not that culture where I just go because it's culture. I think just my perspective is it is costly to be seen as a Christian in England. When I was there, I felt that everybody who went to church was on fire, like sold out. Because if statistics are 46.2% and it's a minority, you're not going because it's cool. You're not going because it's just what you do on a Sunday. You're going. It comes with the cost. and you're going because you really have encountered the Lord.

And that's what it seemed like. So I love church culture there because it was smaller than the church is here, but it was on fire. It was very exciting. It was very exciting. But it didn't mean to interrupt you. I just experienced that when we were there. No, but that's good because we've grown up in England. So to hear your perspective, I mean, that's so encouraging.

That's what you picked up on because we feel that too. It was incredible. It's like Sunday service was one of my favorites ever because it actually felt like the church and looked like the church you'd see an axe. like there was space for prayer space for if the Lord was speaking a word just reading of the scripture after the sermon was done it was just so like what the church should look like in my opinion because it just it looked a lot like acts you know and I feel like our churches should model what the early church you know launched and began it should prayer scripture words space

for God to actually move it wasn't like as programmed as we experience here and um everyone there just you could tell they went because they wanted to be there so that was very refreshing it was very refreshing we were teary eyed it was beautiful it's beautiful what was you're quite amazed oh so it's so it's by danny kruger and if if anyone's actually interested as i'm reading this if anyone's interested you can actually go into youtube and put in danny kruger a message about christianity and culture and it's a beautiful message it's it's even if you're not from it's England it will speak straight to the heart of where you are in your town and where your school I think it speaks to everybody but so he delivers this message in the House of Commons which if

you don't know this is a so it's a group of people who are members of parliament who are serving the UK government and they act as voices for people in different parts of the country and they speak about different issues trying to create solution and so he's basically Danny Kruger's coming into the House of Commons and he is talking about the issue of Christianity in culture and that England is historically a British, is a Christian country founded on Christian values and England has created some of the most incredible men and women of the faith like William Wilberforce who led the movement of the abolition of the slave trade and some of the The hymns that we sing all around the world have come from like British, British people who have been hymn writers.

And so there's such a rich culture of faith in England that is, it's like a deep, deep world of faith. And at this point right now in history, we're seeing in England that there's a separation of the church and state. If we look back historically, every time that's happened, there's been total chaos. And so he's basically saying This is why we should not separate the church in this day Here's why it's not a good idea But this is basically a call for a new restoration And for the UK to return to its Christian values

And so he says This is a quote He says a wind is blowing A storm is coming And when it hits we are going to learn If our house is built on the rock or sand Well The strong gods are back

And we have to choose which God to worship I suggest we worship the God who came in weakest form Jesus Christ and and well it's so and and even what he says in that message too

he says he says God is a jealous God so he's not even just saying you know our country should be built on Christian values we should we should serve the community we should he's saying actually this country should be built on Christ not just the values

I like the values, but mine, Christ. And he speaks, and just lastly, just to wrap up, sorry, I'm talking for ages, but he speaks about these two things. He says, thin religion and thick religion. So thin religion is a country built on just the values and just trying to do the right thing. And, you know, just going to church once a week. That's thin, that's brittle. It breaks when the winds come and the storm comes. That breaks, doesn't it?

Yep. But the thick religion, he's saying, is people who genuine, genuine. believe that Jesus, he died on the cross. He was beaten. He was marred beyond human resemblance. He died on the cross for our sins because we're all sinners and we couldn't do it by ourselves. He died on the cross. He was buried and he rose again. And in his resurrection, we have eternal life and hope. And so you've got these people now, we're living in a time where they're preaching the gospel in the House of Commons. And they're bullied for it and teased for mocked. But it's like these seeds are being sown. And so when the storm comes, I just believe

there's going to be fruit in our country. We're going to see so much fruit because of these people who are so faithful like Danny Kruger. It's so great. Amazing. Okay, friends, real talk. When life gets busy, the first things to go are usually the things that really matter. Maybe you're juggling classes, social stuff, work, maybe even a relationship. And before you know it, you're endlessly scrolling without thinking. and crossing lines that you said you wouldn't. That's where Covenant Eyes comes in. Their victory app is such a game changer.

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we think, oh, if our government would do something about that, if someone would do something about that, I wish, you know, some crazy revival would break out. But it's like, it starts with you. The revival starts with you. You're a part of the change. And so you, you have to ask yourself, like, do I have thin faith? Do I have fake faith? So everyone has to look at their life and say, like, nothing's going to change until my foundation is Christ, you know, until I catch fire, until I repent and come to the Lord. And I think one thing that I love about you so much is how deeply personal you take what's happening in the world around you. Like, following the tears, it's that prayer, like, break my heart for what breaks your

Lord. And when you break my heart for it, I'm actually going to like, get to, like, and be a part of the change. And I love how you said, like, I went back home and all of this is attached to your going back home because you're realizing there's a problem. There's a lack of faith. I'm a believer. I'm on fire. I want to go be a part of the change and the work that you do. Not everybody knows what you do, but you are in that change. And I think everyone has to realize, like, they have to take the gospel personally. You have to take your relationship with God personally. You have to take the things that are going on in the world, the darkness personally, it's your job to respond. And I think too many people just go, hope somebody does that. But it makes

me think of Nehemiah. You make me think of Nehemiah because his heart broke for what broke to the Lord's. He was like the weeping prophet. He would cry about what was happening to Jerusalem. And he was a cup bearer of the king. Like not the guy you would have thought was about to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. But yet his heart broke for it. And he was positioned beside the king. And so what did he do? He used what he had, where he had it, his influence. And he began to, you know, talk to the king about the problems going on Jerusalem. And then he was able to go back and rebuild the walls, but he didn't do it himself. Like there was an army of individual people who also took on the personal responsibility to use their gifting to grow the kingdom.

And I just, that story makes me think so much of both of you, but particularly with what you just shared, you going back. And I love that you said I went back home because you started it by saying, I don't know what home is, but like you know that's home. And I think that's really cool, too, because home is, I was thinking about this other day when I was talking about being in London. And I said, and then we went back home. And I was like, I mean, to the hotel. Because for me, I've taught our girls this since we travel a lot. I always tell them, like, home is wherever we are. So like, if we're together, we're home, you know.

And I feel that. I feel such a sense of home when we're together. And so it's sweet because I'm like, oh, we went back home. It doesn't matter like where we're staying. Like, and I know this is home. obviously we're planted in Louisiana. We're so grateful for that. We have our home here. But also, I want our girls to feel that, like, safety of, like, wherever we go, like, there's a sense of home. And I think home is where you're called to be at that time, you know. If you're called to be

in London at that time, even if your family and your house is here, that's home right now. If we're called to be in London for two weeks, which is such a small amount of time. And I'm like, let's make this feel as much like home as we can. And it's because this is where we're called to be right here right now. And so just to encourage those who are listening, you know, you might feel like, man, I want to feel that sense of home. I want to feel that sense of grounding. And I think there are places, obviously, that you have, that you get to plant roots. But if you're not in that season yet, where you can't establish roots, I do think you can create an environment of home to feel, you know, confident in where God's placed you. Emily, I want to talk to you

because when we were in London, we get to have lunch. And what was so cool, the way we met is I needed a babysitter for Honey and Haven because I wanted them to feel like home. I wanted them to have fun while I was doing work. And so I was like, man, it would just be so great if someone could come watch them and make it fun. And Masey recommended you. And you were like, well, I do social media full time now. So I have time.

I have time. And whenever I did a Zoom call with you, you were like so cute you were wearing this sweatshirt. It was like, I love Jesus. I can't remember what it was something like that with your cute little blouse over it. And you were just like asking me if they knew about these toys in London, all this stuff. I was like, oh, she is going to make this so fun. And you did. You blew me away.

I was like taking videos of all of the little things that you created for them, the space you created. So your heart is just so beautiful. But I was so thankful we got to have lunch for a bit. And you were telling me that there's not many influencers in London who are sharing their faith. And you're actually kind of telling me about what a typical influencer in London looks like. I want you to speak to that because here in America, there's a lot of influencers who are Christians and sharing their faith. Like that's a very popular thing, which is amazing and so great. But people, like, I want you to wrap your mind around what you're doing.

Here it's common. There it is not common. So talk about how God begin to call you into that and what culture looks like in that area. Honestly, I did not want to really do that whole life. I wanted to be a farmer growing up. I can milk cows. I can shear sheep. I would go in like work on farms up north in Lancashire in England, which is like up north. And I would spend my half times going and doing work experience on farms. And my dream, I remember I used to go out onto fields and I would feel like

David and I would pray out like, Lord, would I end up in these fields? Would this be where you bring me to? And I remember someone actually gave me a word when I was like around 15, which was when my heart was for farming. And she was like, I see he was a David. And she was like, I see he was a David. And she was like, but David was the shepherd, but he was actually then brought out to be a king and he had to influence people. And I remember being like, that is not my thing. I grew up with, Macy and I talk about this. I didn't have friends growing up. And we didn't really have good friends. I was bullied all the way through school. I used to wear wellies to school. Those rain boots because I wanted to be a farmer so bad. I would do gardening in my lunch breaks at school

because I wanted to be outside so bad. I was just like that weird kid that everyone thought was really strange and like very very uncool and so when i remember someone saying to me like i see you as david yes you're in the fields right now but he's going to bring you out into leading i was like that's not that's not for me and i actually said i really love i remember saying like something along the lines of like i really love that you speak to people like that but i actually don't think that words for me and i got given that word at nearly every like all the time i would be at a church conference or i'd be at a church or i'd be at a youth group and someone would say i see like leadership over your life And I'm a really shy person, like, with crowds.

Like, I have the most insane stage fright you've ever met, like, of someone you've ever met in your life. Like, I'm so surprising. Even, like, speaking in front of, like, 15 people, I would like my heart. I'd be like, oh my gosh. Like, even coming on here, I was, like, sat and my foot was shaking. And I was like, stop that. I can tell when she's never, so she was. I literally shook.

And I was like, stop shaking your foot. There's a couple of people in here. That made me nervous. And I'm like, every time someone would say to me, I see this leadership call in your life. I'd say, that's really kind. But I actually don't think that's for me. And I used to always say to people like, oh, people always give the same words to everyone. They always say you're going to be a leader.

And my friends would be like, I didn't get that word. And I'm like, no, no, they'll give it to you. Every Christian, I always call you a butterfly that's going to bloom. You're a flower that's in the field that the Lord sees. And you're a leader. Like, I feel like those are the three things that people would say. And so then I just would reject it, reject it, reject it, reject it. And then I was working at a jewelry stand, actually, for my friend, Annika.

She's an amazing company called Recognise. And in it, their company, the whole point is they recognize people. And she said to me, Emily, this is so weird, but I think you're going to influence so many people with your life. And I remember being like, well, that's a different way of saying. It influenced those people. And I really respected her. And I looked at her as like, she's this amazing businesswoman who started a company

that, you know, gives back to people with like what they do with their charity work. And I was like, wow, you're like an amazing. woman of God and you're telling me I'm going to influence people like that's really big I remember being like oh thanks I'm like people have always said that I'm going to do leadership stuff but that scares me and she was like well you know pray about it like I think you are going to influence people and I'm still wanting to be a farmer so I'm like in the fields I'm going to influence all the sheep and then I actually had deleted Instagram because I felt it was all fake and so you know I did the cool kid thing and I deleted it I was like goodbye I was like 19 I was like

goodbye Instagram. And then a few years later, I felt, well, a bit later I felt the Lord would be like, in worship, I just kept hearing, you know, people always say measure up what the Lord's saying to you based on what the Bible says and like how he speaks in the Bible. I'm like, in the Bible, it does not tell you seek validation, seek, seek followers, seek so I was like, this doesn't seem like the Lord. It's just my head. I want an excuse to download it and see what everyone's up to. And I just literally, every worship time, I'd hear it and I'd be like, I think I have to get Instagram back. And I remember I downloaded Instagram and I put the most cringe thing up.

I took a photo of me holding flowers in a field and I literally posted the thing being like, Jesus loves you, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, that's it. That's what I'm meant to be doing. And then I just felt from the Lord be like, I want you to post joyful fun things for your friends and family. And I was like, okay, you know, he's not telling me to try and be an influencer and puff up my lips and, you know, move to L.A. This sounds fine. And so I literally start posting for a while, just literally, if you scroll down, they're literally just videos of me being like, here's my outfit and like, here's what I'm doing.

And then it came to February two years ago and I felt the Lord say, I want you to post every day till June. And I'm like, what? My friends and family are going to think I'm a freak. Like, why would they want, no one wants to see me on their four you page every day. I do it, whatever. And then it was funny because the same girl, Annika, so it gets to June, I've been posting every day, nothing's happened, no followers. And Annika says to me, Emily, I feel like in the next few weeks, you're going to be leading thousands of people. And I was like, what?

And I'm thinking, oh, no, someone's going to make me go on stage for something. Because I'm thinking leading. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have to go on stage. I'm so freaked out. I remember I had this crazy, like for genuinely two weeks, it was like my heart would not stop beating for two weeks. Because she said in the next few, two weeks, I remember I looked up online what events are happening. like avoid every church setting possible like I'm not going I'm not being no one's pulling me up on stage because I get up there and then it was funny because

the next day at church the Lord I felt the Lord give me this idea for a video which is so far I've been making very mediocre not not videos you probably would follow but for friends and family pretty fun but this felt like an executed video like it was it was where I would put one outfit on and then I turn it into four outfits I was like that's a planned video That's like something I have to set up and think about. And I was like, okay. And I really felt the Lord say it. And I was like, but I was too overcome by then my nerves for what was going on over here, this word that I was like, no, it didn't even think about it.

So I forgot about doing the video for about two weeks. And then I was in worship at church. And I felt the Lord gave me the idea again. I went, oh, I forgot about that idea. So I go home and I film the video and the next day I post it. The next day is two week mark. And I wake up and I have 20,000. followers. Wow. And I remember I literally woke up and I had chills and I went, oh, I'm going to

lead thousands of people. I've just led thousands of people. Wow. On social media. And like, it was like crazy because he's, he's planned this. And I remember I would get, I got a few DMs being like, I'm so glad you've got loads of content for me to like stalk himself. And I was like, he told me to post every day till June. And it was like, oh, he like planned this whole thing out. Like he knew that girls would want to stalk me and have stuff to follow and they would want to like see more outfits and it was like he teased things up perfectly and like you said yes any door he opens no man can shut any any plan he's got no man can put away and like he had a plan for me to lead thousands and not a way that he knew he obviously knew that i would be too scared to get up on

a stage and talk to these girls but he knew that i'd be totally fine because in my head it's just a number it's like posting a video and numbers see it but actually those are individual girls and i don't get stage fright when i post on instagram and he knew that and by the end of that summer it was my full-time job and it was crazy it's like what the Lord can do well one yes and like even though you might be scared or like whatever I was scared thinking about the word that someone had given me actually he was doing something completely different and I made an assumption of God that he was going to do one thing and he was like I'm I'm not over there I'm not all the way over here doing something that I know that you can do I've I've

prepared you and I've made you confident for this this mission and it's crazy because then a few months later I was like at a church event and I was like they said on stage they said whatever you're doing in your job you should be leading people to Jesus and I was like huh this is now my new job and um like you were saying it's it's very different the influences space in London I'd I'd been doing it for a few weeks then I mean months then and it that's like you go to a lot of events in London like there's always events and you know these events there's lots of drinking here's everything we can give you like oh you want you want the bag that we're set you have the bag you want a new jumper you have this jumper

they like want to impress you like every brand wants you to have everything you want so that you might post a story about them so that you might give them a little bit of you know encouragement like oh guys I love this brand and so I was going to events every single day like and you'd show up and everyone is absolutely obliterated drunk like everyone is being given everything they want like you get given a full outfit of clothes and so that in your stories you're you're wearing the brand. You get given a drink the minute you walk in. There's food. And then everyone wants to take your picture and you almost for a minute touch like, it's like a god. Like you feel suddenly like, I'm so important. I'm so valuable. These people think I'm so worthy

of their attention. And whenever I read about in the Old Testament when they look up at the mountains and they would say, you know, in the summer it says look up in the mountains. Where does my help come from? He was saying that because when he looked up in the mountains, every mountain had a temple to a different God. And so he was looking up going, I look up to these mountains. I can't get help from these mountains. These gods are fake. These are idols that I look up to. My help comes from the Lord.

And I feel like with Instagram, we have the same thing. I look out into my Instagram profile. Where does my help come from? And I felt the Lord say, when I was at church and they were saying, you should be, you know, your job where you're working. You should be bringing people to Jesus, the people you're working with. And I was like, I don't have anyone I work with. I work in my room and I post an outfit video. How do I tell these colleagues of mine who essentially everyone who follows me is essentially

my boss. They've all given me a job. They've given me a platform. And how do I tell them about Jesus? And so I was like praying about this. And then the Lord gave me the idea of doing show people what it's like inside a church building, but in your niche and my niche is fashion. So I started doing these, what people wear to church videos, what people are wearing at Christian

festivals, what people, I did what people wear at L.O. Sister Conference. Like, you know, I, for a few years now I've been doing what people wear at church videos. And it's become a ministry for me, like a ministry that I would never, of ever, when I was in the fields, picking up lambs to give them milk. Never did I think I would be filming what people wear to church videos. I used to wear overalls covered in sheep muck. Like, I used to milk cows and they're above you, and you have to wear a waterproof jacket in case they poo on your head. Like, it is, I've gone from that being a bullied girl who no one in school thought was cool. I was bullied so bad for being the weird kid at school to being the person that people follow and people look to for advice and fashion.

Like, how have I gone from raincoat with poo on to wearing cool clothes that people, people call me cool and I'm like shaking in my boots like, no, I'm the bullied girl. But only the Lord can take that girl and make her the person that leads people. Wow. And that's so the Lord, though. It's so what you see in the Bible. It's David. It's literally David's story. And I was spoken over you so many times.

There is so many aspects of your story that you can learn from and pick up on it from the obedience. I mean, I think about you doing that for six months every single day. And you had to have felt embarrassed. It was so embarrassing. Yeah. But the Lord said, do it and you did it. And I can just think of so many girls who have started something thinking the Lord said it and then got discouraged month three going, well, this isn't working. Why am I doing this?

nobody likes it, this is weird, stops, and then misses out on like the whole point, you know? Like, I don't want to put pressure on people to say, oh, you're going to mess it up. I don't think that God works like that. God is so kind, so gracious. If you messed up in the past, you didn't obey in the past, get back on today, like say yes. Ask the Lord to speak to you again. You haven't messed up the path for your life, so don't hear that. But how beautiful when you are obedient.

And at that six-month mark, that two-week mark, you post that video, not. doing it because you thought it was going to get thousands of views, doing it because the Lord said to do it. It's just gold's idea. And then everyone's looking back at all your past posts, so those didn't go to waste. That wasn't a wasted time. That's what it looks at when God's working in those waiting seasons of your life. And so much of that story is just so amazing. And I think about too, even from the start, you said something that I really want to call up, because you're talking about as a Christian, the Lord calling your social media and you being like, God doesn't call me, you know, to be validated. Like, God doesn't put.

in the Bible. And I think, I really do think that the enemy uses kind of those voices in people's life to stay away from social media because the enemy can use it like that. Like it can be such a dark place. If your heart's not pure, it can be for validation. It can certainly be that. But even in David's story from the start, he says, man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart. He says to Solomon, who's going to look for the king. And I think about that where, yeah, man might have their idea, they might misunderstand, they might do whatever. But God's looking at the heart. And although God does not say you should have Instagram, Jesus does say you're the light of the world, you know, not to hide your light, but to actually let it shine. And I love even the

verse for Paul. This has been one for me that I've taken and use it in the context of social media. It's whenever he says, imitate me as I imitate Christ. Like, it's not, don't look at me. It's actually, no, I invite you to look at my life as I imitate Christ. And I think if you feel confident that you're walking in a life of obedience, life of Christ, and willing to say when you're not, willing to repent and go, oh, y'all, I messed it up, you know? And I've had to do that on social media a lot of times. That welcomes people into what it looks like to follow Christ. I think that too many people steer away from that because they're afraid of what people are going to think of them. But it's like, no, like Christians need to be in that space. And I think that

I actually do think the Lord calls us to that. And there's so many places in the Bible. Again, if that's your thing, you know, if that is what he's calling, you too. And I love how you said, like, I use my little niche of fashion and then I do that in the church. And that's the point. That's the Nehemiah story. It's use what you have. I love reading the story of Nehemiah because it's all these people coming together with their gifting and they do something incredible together, you know. It's so beautiful. Sorry to interrupt. No, please. I thank God. I mean this. I thank the Lord that Emily and I were not the cool girls growing up because that was that was God's providence that was actually was his mercy to us that was his

kind don't you think that was his kindness because I think our history with God is so important and I and and if there's any girls right now listening think I I'm not the cool girl I'll never be the cool girl that's actually a gift in your life that's the greatest gift that's the greatest gift and I think out of out of that place you your whole life you'll realize like I pray that our whole lives, Emily and I will realize and no, it's the things that happen, the places God invites us to go, isn't because we're the cool girl? Is it because of what we've done or who we are? It's literally the grace of God. He's the one opening the door. And we meet Emily and I were talking earlier, we weren't made to romanticize our lives. That's a lie. We've been sold. We're meant to lay

them down. Yeah. So even if, you know, girls who are called to what Emily is doing and how Emily does what she's doing. I see someone who's not romanticized in their life. She's laying it down. She's always saying, how can I use this for the glory of God? If God's given this to me, how can I use it for his glory? But not even just doing things for him, but with him. And, you know, being, being lonely and being bullied, you learn how to, the scriptures say, God, he's my hiding place, hiding place, you're a refuge. And if you live out of that place, you're never, you're, God's never going to let your feet stumble. They will have hard days.

His promise, he will not let you stumble. He won't let you fall. And those days actually make you. They make you who you are and they develop your relationship with the Lord. I think about my freshman, no, I think it was going to sophomore year of high school. All my friends tried out for a cheerleader

and I was like, okay, I'll try out to be a cheerleader too so we could all hang out. It would be so fun. Guess who the only person who didn't make it was me. And it was actually so brutal because only like 33 girls tried out. I still remember. 28 made it.

I was like one of the five that did not make it. I could have been a sub. They could have tapped me in. They never did. They never call it. It's fine. But what was actually... Oh, that's genuinely so hard.

No, it actually really was very hard and embarrassing because, you know, the whole school knows who makes cheerleader and who doesn't. And I remember one of the hardest parts, though, was whenever they all got to go to cheer camp. It's like in Florida, and it's like all my best friends. But I didn't get to go because... I didn't make the team.

And you know what's so interesting is, like, God was teaching me so much during that time. Like, I really had to, like, really work that out with him. And what was cool was I was sitting at home and I felt like the Lord put on my heart to encourage them because they were talking about how hard cheer camp was and everything. And, of course, I'm, like, wishing I was there. But I was like, okay, what can I do to, like, be a part of this? And so every day I made funny videos, just myself. They were so embarrassing now looking back, I don't even know it's funny.

But the Lord put it on my heart. I wouldn't have known it was the Lord at the time, though, but it was. And so I recorded myself doing funny videos and I would send them a video a day at cheer camp to like make them laugh. And now like at 28 years old, making cheerleader is not a big deal to me, right? But God working in me and like who I was and what I could bring to the table and what, you know, I could do was something so special. And I think about now, like I'm still making like funny videos to cheer people up. you know but like cheerleading is not a thing and so i think like yeah god establishes who you are in those moments and teaches you like what's the thing that he put on your heart one thing i really love about the story for for both of you guys is that when god put a word on your heart to do something specifically it was social media you didn't look at social media to teach you how to do it you weren't going okay how do the influencers do it how do i meet the algorithms requirements how do i like this is how i'm going to do it because this is how it's been done you got with the lord and the lord said six months, post a video every day. And the Lord put on your heart, do a video of you doing

four different outfits. And that's why when you come to your page, people go, oh, this is unique, this is different. This is original. I want to follow this. Whereas so many people, the reason why trends look the same is because people are not getting with the Lord and saying, God, what do you want me to do? How do I walk this path that you've given me? What does it look like for me to be original in a world? I'm in the world, not of the world. What is it like for my originality to be the light of the world and then you get to do something that no one's ever seen before and people gravitate to it for you going back to london you could have been like okay i'm just going to go london should do whatever you know what's everybody else doing is like lord what do you

have for me in london how how am i get to stand here even if i don't feel qualified for this job and like do it with the best of my ability and the lord's graced you for it and so i just encourage girls who are listening like if god's put a word on your heart if it's something that everybody does and it's more like social media or if it's being a nurse or if it's being a teacher, whatever it is. Like ask God, like, how can my originality come through in this space? Because I just going to bless people in so many ways. And it's going to show God, it's going to show you how personal God is in your story.

Because I love how you both can look back and go, whoa, that was God. I want to wrap this up, Maisie, by you, if you don't mind sharing. Because I know it has been a hard move. But when you were standing on that golden place, at the center point, you didn't realize that was the center point. Can you just share how the Lord, again, because I feel like when you do things that only you and God know and pray about, then when God blesses you back, you know he saw you, you know he heard you. And that's when that relationship becomes so personal.

So I'd love to end on that story. Oh, it'd be my honor. I think also when I was younger, there's something in us. We always want that confirmation of like, I just want to double check this is you. And I think it does talk about this in the Bible, but that we shouldn't chase after those words and confirmations. But when they come, it is so beautiful. You cannot make it up.

And it's a gift from God. So if you're also in a season where you aren't, no one is giving you a word at church, you don't have that confirmation. Don't be discouraged. Because God's grace, it's like a river. It's in every single day. And he's going to give you the right things to remind you,

you. I'm with you. I'm for you. I've got plans to prosper you and not harm me to give a hope in a future. So even as I'm sharing the story and you might, you're still waiting on that. I believe it's on its way. And it's so intentional exactly how God knows how he made us. He knows how we receive. And yeah, I just know he's going to encourage you right where you're at. But I, when I first got to England, you have a lot of people, I had a lot of people saying to me, Oh, we can't wait to have you over dinner. We can't wait to invite you back. And then when I moved, it was an interesting time for me

because it was almost like crickets. The people who said they were going to invite me over didn't. And the people who said they were going to walk with me, they didn't reach out. And so it was a confusing time. It felt really disappointing. And so one of my main prayers was actually with my parents. I prayed with them both that God would bring the right on time people,

the right on time people at the ripe. time, not in my timing, but, you know, I had believed that there are people and actually God's got new family for me. I'm so blessed to have old family, but God's bringing new people and new families as he's doing a new thing in my life. So I ended up meeting a family at Emily's, Emily and I's church called St. Paul's Hammer Smith. And if you're ever coming to London, you should definitely come through. But we met a lovely family there who host something called a Shabbat meal, which is a traditional Jewish meal to mark the Sabbath and the beginning of the Sabbath. And you sit around the table. It was actually just all people our age. And we sat around

the table and it's traditional at that table. There's lots of symbolism which remind us of God's promise and what the scriptures say. So you light a candle and you remember that Jesus is the light of the world. And then it's a few adaptations because we're Christians. Yes. Sorry, that's a good point to say that it was led by a messianic jew so it was all about jesus and then we traditionally the husband and and the wife they would bless the people around the table and so we ended up just blessing each of the person who was next to us so we were all pretty much I mean I didn't know anyone at that table apart from two people the guy next to me he I'd never met him before he prayed a blessing over me

I prayed the blessing of the person next to me and then after he had prayed that blessing we were eating the meal around this table and this guy said to me I had this picture of you it was so it was so clear he was standing in the middle of

Trafalgar Square which is right by where I work and you were standing on this golden plaque and if you look up the centre of London geographically it will take you to this to this plaque to this one point. That's the centre of London. And he said, I want to tell you that God's brought you to England for such a time. And he has you in the centre of his will. So remain in the

centre of his will. Just as you sound, he said, I saw you standing in the centre of London. And that's a reminder that you are in the centre of God's will. And then that was at a point where I had gone for a walk for my lunch break. I was just walking into the bank to set up my card. And I was asking God, you know, I know you brought me here. I don't know fully yet why, but I know that you have. And I was walking and I just, it was so weird. I just stopped in Trafalgar Square right at this point, right by this golden plaque. I didn't know at the time it meant this, it was the centre of London.

I stood out this golden plaque and I looked out and I just started crying, just started crying. God, this is, this was such a big move and I'll never be able to explain to anyone else for what it's like, but know that you know that I miss my family. family and I feel so out of my depth in so many ways, but I know I, there's not, I don't have a shadow of a doubt that I'm supposed to be here. I know I'm supposed to be here. And so it was just a moment when he said that, oh my word, that would have been so beautiful. Yeah. If I wouldn't have stood in Chicago Square a couple weeks ago, but because I had, I felt so seen by God. And so, that's one of those things where you step out of your comfort zone and you're like actually I don't feel that faithful right now because I've got lots of questions that's exactly that's the god we serve

he allows us to petition to him 70% of the Psalms it's not just a happy book 70% are questions and lament and actually the more that we taught to God we were made to do that we become we start to becoming the center of his will. Because we're not just trying to do things for him, but we're doing it with him. Actually, my mom says to me, live life in the plural. It's not just Maisie wakes up and she goes to school. Or Maisie wakes up when she goes to work. It's Maisie wakes up with Jesus. Maisie goes on the tube with Jesus. Jesus walks Maisie into work and they do it together. And so when he said that to me, it wasn't even just like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be here. Oh, God is with us. Emmanuel, he is with us.

It doesn't matter where you are what you're doing. He's with us. Great. Yeah. It's so beautiful. One time a security guard told me, and I love this because he was talking about how he had to go through so many scary things, like as a security guard and as a police officer, like, he would have to run into the most dangerous places.

And he told me one thing that changed his life was he read this book and it said, the safest place you can be is in the center of God's will. And it gave him so much peace because you realize even if I'm in dangerous places, if I'm in the center of God's will for my life, it's the safest place I can be. And that has blessed me so much over the years, like, just go into different places and doing different things with anxiety of, like, the safest place I can be is in the center of God's will. I think not only the safest place, but, like, the most important place, like, even if you're in the six months of doing something that no one's watching, you know, or if you're moving somewhere and you haven't felt that confirmation as far as, like, nothing's blown you away yet. you're not getting invited, like when you're in those spaces, if you know you're in the center of God's will, then you have peace in it. You know, it's like I might not feel great about it right now. It might not feel good, but I have like this deep confidence that this is like God is with me.

And it changes everything. You guys are so incredible. I'm so blessed by y'all's friendship and sisterhood. I'm like, only God did, you know, you be from all over the world, but originally London and you be from London, me be from Louisiana. And we all have like, this commonality in Christ. It's so beautiful. We're not just soul sisters. Like it's not like a, oh, we have our sweet girly moments, but I say to Emily, and I feel swear about you as well, we're sword sisters. Like in nature, the lionesses, they don't hunt in the day. They hunt in the night. That's because of design. And they don't do it by themselves. They actually go together. The lionesses, they arise, they gather, and they go in the darkness. So we were made,

we were made for that. The darkness is not dark to him. So the darkness shouldn't be dark to us. It's beautiful. And we're meant to, this is the time to arise and gather and go into the darkness together. We shouldn't be afraid. Come on with that word. That's great. Y'all, I just encourage everyone who's listening, follow along on their socials.

Cheer them on. If you're in London, I hope y'all connect and we can have some more sisterhood going on in London. But truly, follow them along. Emily has a podcast, ribs and nits, right? Check it out. It is beautiful. You're going to be so encouraged by it. It makes me laugh.

also so good. Like you teach in the word, girl. It's so beautiful. But thank y'all for being here as a blessing. Thank you so much for us. We love the sisterhood. We're all so blessed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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church setting possible like I'm not going I'm not being no one's pulling me up on stage I'm because I get up there um and then it was funny because the next day at church the Lord, I felt the Lord give me this idea for a video, which is so far I've been making very mediocre, not videos you probably would follow, but for friends and family, pretty fun. But this felt like an executed video, like it was where I would put one outfit on and then I turn it into four outfits. I was like, that's a planned video. That's like something I have to set up and think about. And I was like, okay. And I really felt the Lord say it. And I was like, but I was too overcome by then my nerves for what was going on over here, this word that I was like,

No, it didn't even think about it. So I forgot about doing the video for about two weeks. And then I was in worship at church. And I felt the Lord gave me the idea again. I went, oh, I forgot about that idea. So I go home and I film the video and the next day I post it. The next day is two week mark. And I wake up and I have 20,000 followers.

Wow. And I remember I literally woke up and I had chills. And I went, oh, I'm going to lead thousands of people. I've just led thousands of people on social media. and like it was like crazy because he's he's planned this and I remember I would get I got a few DMs being like I'm so glad you've got loads of content for me to like stalk and stuff and I was like he told me to post every day till June and it was like oh he like planned this whole thing out like he knew that girls would want to stalk me and have stuff to follow and they would want to like

see more outfits and it was like he teased things up perfectly and like you said yes any door he opens no man can shut any plan he's got no man can put away and like he had a plan for for me to lead thousands and not a way that he knew. He obviously knew that I would be too scared to get up on a stage and talk to these girls, but he knew that I'd be totally fine because in my head it's just a number. It's like posting a video and numbers see it. But actually those are individual girls. I don't get stage fright when I post on Instagram.

And he knew that. And by the end of that summer, it was my full-time job. And it was crazy. It's like what the Lord can do through one yes. And like, even though you might be scared or like whatever, I was scared thinking about the word that someone had given me but actually he was doing something completely different and I made an assumption of God

that he was going to do one thing and he was like I'm not over there I'm not all the way over here doing something that I know that you can do I've prepared you and I've made you confident for this mission and it's crazy because then a few months later I was like at a church event and I was like they said on stage they said whatever you're doing in your job you should be leading people to Jesus

And I was like, huh, this is now my new job. And like you were saying, it's very different the influencer space in London. I'd been doing it for a few weeks then, I mean months then. And that's like you go to a lot of events in London. Like there's always events. And, you know, these events, there's lots of drinking. Here's everything we can give you. Like, oh, you want the bag that we're, you have the bag.

You want a new jumper. You have this jumper. They like want to impress you. Like every brand wants you to have. have everything you want so that you might post a story about them so that you might give them a little bit of you know encouragement like oh guys I love this brand and so I was going to events every single day like and you'd show up and everyone is absolutely obliterated drunk like everyone is being given everything they want like there we you get given a full outfit of clothes and so that

in your stories you're wearing the brand you get given a drink the minute you walk in there's food and then everyone wants to take your picture and here's a and you almost for a minute touch like it's like a god like you you feel suddenly like I'm so important I'm so valuable these people think I'm I'm so worthy of their attention and whenever I read about in the old testament when they look up at the mountains and they would say you know in the samar it says look up in the mountains where does my help come from he was saying that because when he looked up in the mountains every mountain had a temple to a different god and so he was looking up going I look up to these mountains I can't get help from these mountains

these gods are fake these are idols that I look up to my help comes from the Lord and I feel like with Instagram we have the same thing I look out into my Instagram profile where does my help come from and I felt the Lord say

when I was at church and they were saying you should be your job where you're working you should be bringing people to Jesus the people you're working with and I was like I don't have anyone I work with I work in my room

and I post an outfit video how do I tell these colleagues of mine who essentially everyone who follows me is essentially my boss. They've all given me a job. They've given me a platform and how do I tell them about Jesus? And so I was like praying about this and then the Lord gave me the idea of doing show people

what it's like inside a church building, but in your niche and my niche is fashion. So I started doing these what people wear to church videos, what people are wearing at Christian festivals, what people I did what people wear at L.O. Sister Conference. Like, you know, I for a few years now I've been doing what people wear at church videos and it's become a ministry for me like a ministry that I would never of ever when I was in the fields picking up lambs to give them milk never did I think I would be filming what people wear to church videos I used to wear overalls covered in sheep muck like I used to milk cows and they're above you and you have to wear a waterproof jacket in case they poo on your head like it is I've gone from

that being a bullied girl who no one in school thought was cool I was bullied so bad for being the weird kid at school to being the person that people follow and people look to for advice and fashion like how have I gone from raincoat with poo on to to wearing cool clothes that people people call me cool and I'm like shaking in my boots like no I'm the bully girl like but only the Lord can take that girl and make her the person that leads people wow and that's so the Lord though it's so what you see in the Bible it's David it's literally David story and I was spoken over you so many times. There is so many aspects of your story that you can learn from and pick up on it from the obedience. I mean, I think about you doing that for six months every single day and you had

to have felt embarrassed. Like, it was so embarrassing. Yeah, but the Lord said, do it and you did it. And I can just think of so many girls who have started something thinking the Lord said it and then got discouraged month three going, well, this isn't working. Why am I doing this? Nobody likes it. This is weird. stops. And then misses out on like the whole point, you know, like I don't want to put pressure on people to say, oh, you're going to mess it up. I don't think that God works like that. God is so kind, so gracious, if you messed up in the past, you didn't obey in the past, get back on today, like say yes, ask the Lord to speak to you again.

You haven't messed up the path for your life, so don't hear that. But how beautiful when you are obedient. And at that six-month mark, that two-week mark, you post that video, not doing it because you thought it was going to get thousands of views, doing it because the Lord said to do it. It's just gold-side-in. And then everyone's looking back at all your past posts. So those didn't go to waste.

That wasn't a wasted time. That's what it looks at when God's working in those waiting seasons of your life. And so much of that story is just so amazing. And I think about too, even from the start, you said something that I really want to call up. Because you're talking about as a Christian, the Lord calling your social media and you being like, God doesn't call me, you know, to be validated. Like, God doesn't put in the Bible. And I think, I really do think that the enemy uses kind of those voices in people's life to stay away from social media.

media because the enemy can use it like that. Like, it can be such a dark place. If your heart's not pure, it can be for validation. It can certainly be that. But even in David's story, from the start, he says, man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart. That's what he says to Solomon, who's going to look for the king. And I think about that where, yeah, man might have their idea.

They might misunderstand. They might do whatever. But God's looking at the heart. And although God does not say you should have Instagram, Jesus does say, you're the light of the world, you know, not to hide your light, but to actually let it shine. And I love even the verse for Paul. This has been one for me that I've taken and used it in the context of social media. It's whenever he says, imitate me as I imitate Christ. Like, it's not, don't look at me. It's actually, no, I invite you to look at my life as I imitate Christ.

And I think if you feel confident that you're walking in a life of obedience, life of Christ, and willing to say when you're not, willing to repent and go, oh, y'all, I messed it up, you know, and I've had to do that on social media a lot of times. That welcomes people into what it looks like to follow Christ. I think that too many people steer away from that because they're afraid of what people are going to think of them. But it's like, no, like Christians need to be in that space. And I think that I actually do think the Lord calls us to that.

And there's so many places in the Bible. Again, if that's your thing, you know, if that is what he's calling you to. And I love how you said, like, I use my little niche of fashion. And then I do that in the church. And that's the point. That's the Nehemiah story. It's use what you have. I love reading the story of Nehemiah

because it's all these people coming together with their gifting and then they do something incredible together, you know. So beautiful. Sorry to interrupt. No, please. I thank God. I mean this. I thank the Lord that Emily and I were not the cool girls growing up

because that was God's providence. That was actually was his mercy to us. That was his kindness. Because I think our history with God is so important. And I, and if there's any girls right now listening, think, I'm not the cool girl. I'll never be the cool girl. That's actually a gift in your life. That's the greatest gift.

That's the greatest gift. And I think out of, out of that place, your whole life, you'll realize. Like I pray that our whole lives, Emily and I will realize and no, it's the things that happen, the places God invites us to go. Isn't because we're the cool girl? Is it because of what we've done or who we are? it's literally the grace of God he's the one opening the door and we meet Emily and I were talking earlier

we weren't made to romanticize our lives that's a lie we've been sold we meant to lay them down so even if you know girls who are called to what Emily is doing and how Emily does what she's doing I see someone who's not romanticising their life she's laying it down she's always saying how can I use this for the glory of God

if God's given this to me how can I use it for his glory but not even just doing things for him but with him and you know being being lonely and being bullied you learn you learn how to the scriptures say god you're my he's my hiding place hiding place you're a refuge and if you live out of that place you're you're never god's never going to let your feet stumble though he will have hard days his promise he will not let you stumble he won't let you fall and those those days actually make you they make you who you are and they develop your relationship with the Lord. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy

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only like 33 girls tried out I still remember 28 made it I was like one of the five that did not make it a sub I could have been a sub they could have tapped me in they never did they never call it it's fine but what was what was actually really so hard no actually really was very hard and embarrassing because you know the whole school knows who makes cheerleader and who doesn't and I remember but one of the hardest parts though was when whenever they all got to go to cheer camp. It's like in Florida, and it's like all my best friends, but I didn't get to go because I didn't make the team.

And you know what's so interesting is like God was teaching me so much during that time. Like I really had to like really work that out with him. And what was cool was I was sitting at home and I felt like the Lord put on my heart to encourage them because they were talking about how hard cheer camp was and everything. And of course, I'm like wishing I was there. But I was like, okay, what can I do to like be a part of this? And so every day I made funny videos, just myself. They were so embarrassing now looking back.

I don't even know it's funny, but the Lord put it on my heart. I wouldn't have known it was the Lord at the time, though, but it was. And so I recorded myself doing funny videos, and I would send them a video a day at cheer camp to make them laugh. And now, like, at 28 years old, making cheerleader is not a big deal to me, right? but God working in me and who I was and what I could bring to the table and what I could do

was something so special and I think about now I'm still making funny videos to cheer people up but like cheerleading is not a thing and so I think like yeah God establishes who you are in those moments

and teaches you like what's the thing that he put on your heart one thing I really love about the story for both of you guys is that when God put a word on your heart to do something specifically it was social media you didn't look at social media to teach you how to do it.

You weren't going, okay, how do the influencers do it? How do I meet the algorithms, requirements? How do I, like, this is how I'm going to do it because this is how it's been done. You got with the Lord, and the Lord said six months, post a video every day. And the Lord put on your heart, do a video of you doing four different outfits. And that's why when you come to your page, people go, oh, this is unique, this is different. This is original. I want to follow this.

Whereas so many people, the reason why trends look the same is because people are not getting with the Lord and saying, God, what do you want me to do? How do I walk this path that you've given me? What does it look like for me to be original in a world? I'm in the world, not of the world. What is it like for my originality to be the light of the world? And then you get to do something that no one's ever seen before. And people gravitate to it for you going back to London. You could have been like, okay, I'm just going to go London. I should do whatever. You know, what's everybody else doing? It's like, Lord, what do you have for me in London? How am I going to stand here, even if I don't feel qualified for this job and, like, do it with the best of my

ability. And the Lord's graced you for it. And so I just encourage girls who are listening. Like, if God's put a word on your heart, if it's something that everybody does, and it's more like social media, or if it's being a nurse or if it's being a teacher, whatever it is. Like, ask God, like, how can my originality come through in this space? Because I just going to bless people in so many ways. And it's going to show God, it's going to show you how personal God is in your story. Because I love how you both can look back and go, whoa, that was God. I want to wrap this up, Maisie, by you, if you don't mind sharing, because I know it has been a hard move. But when you were standing on that golden place at the center point, you didn't

realize that was the center point. Can you just share how the Lord again? Because I feel like when you do things that only you and God know and pray about, then when God blesses you at, you know he saw you. You know he heard you. And that's when that relationship becomes so personal. So I'd love to end on that story. Oh, it'd be my honor. I think also when I was younger, there's something in us. We always want that confirmation of like, I'll just want to double check. This is you. And I think it does talk about this in the Bible, but that we shouldn't chase after those words and confirmations. But when they come, it is so beautiful. You cannot make it up. And it's a gift from God. So if you're also in a season where you aren't, no one is giving you a word.

church you don't have that confirmation don't be discouraged um because god's god's grace it's like a river is in in every single day and he's going to give you the right things to remind you i'm with you i'm for you i got plans to prosper you and not harm you to give a hope to give you hope in a future so even as i'm sharing the story and you might you're still waiting on that is i know i believe it's on its way and it's so intentional exactly how God knows how he made us he knows how we receive and yeah I just know he's going to encourage you right where you're at but I when I first got to England you have a lot of people I had a lot of people saying to me oh we can't wait to have you over dinner I can't wait to invite you back and then when I moved it was an interesting time for me

because it was almost like crickets the people who said they were going to invite me over didn't and the people who said they were going to walk with me, they didn't reach out. And so it was a confusing time. It felt really disappointing. And so one of my main prayers was actually with my parents, I prayed with them both that God would bring the right on time people, the right on time people at the ripe time, not in my timing.

But, you know, I had believed that there are people. And actually, God's got new family for me. I'm so blessed to have old family. but God's bringing new people and new families as he's doing a new thing in my life. So I ended up meeting a family at Emily and I's church called St. Paul's Hammersmith. And if you're ever coming to London,

you should definitely come through. But we met a lovely family there who host something called a Shabbat meal, which is a traditional Jewish meal to mark the Sabbath, the beginning of the Sabbath. And you sit around the table. It was actually just all people are, And we sat around the table, and it's traditional, at that table, there's lots of symbolism which remind us of God's promise and what the scriptures say.

So you light a candle and you remember that Jesus is the light of the world. And then it's... There's a few adaptations because we're Christians. Yes, yes, sorry, that's a good point to say that it was led by a messianic Jew, so it was all about Jesus. And then we, traditionally, the husband and the wife, they would bless the people around the table. And so we ended up just blessing each of the person who was next to us. So we were all pretty much, I mean, I didn't know anyone at that table apart from two people. The guy next to me, I'd never met him before.

He prayed a blessing over me. I prayed the blessing of the person next to me. And then after he had prayed that blessing, we were eating the meal. around this table and the this guy said to me I had this picture of you it was so it was so clear he was standing in the middle of Trafalgar square which is right by where I work and you were standing on this golden plaque and if you look up the center of London geographically it will take you to this to this plaque to this one point that's the center of London and he said I want I want to tell you that God's brought you to England for such a time and he has you in the

centre of his will. So remain in the centre of his will. Just as you sound, he said, I saw you standing in the centre of London and that's a reminder that you are in the centre of God's will. And then that was at a point where I had gone for a walk for my lunch break. I was just walking to the bank to set up my card and I was asking God, you know, I know you brought me here. I don't know fully yet why, but I know that you have.

and I was walking and I just it was so weird I just stopped in Trafalgar Square right at this point right by this golden plaque I didn't know at the time it meant it was the centre of London I stood out this golden plaque and I looked out and I just started crying

just started crying God this is this was such a big move and I'll never be able to explain to anyone else what it's like but know that you know that I miss my family and I feel so out of my depth in so many ways

but I know I there's not I don't have a shadow of a doubt that I'm supposed to be here. I know I'm supposed to be here. And so it was just a moment when he said that, oh, my word, that would have been so beautiful. Yeah. If I wouldn't have stood in Chicago Square a couple weeks ago. But because I had, I felt so seen by God. And so, that's one of those things where you step out of your comfort zone and you're like, actually, I don't feel that faithful right now because I've got lots of questions.

that's exactly that's the god we serve he allows us to petition to him 70% of the psalms it's not just a happy book 70% are questions and lament and actually the more that we taught to god we were made to do that we become we start to become in the center of his will because we're not just trying to do things for him but we're doing it with him actually my mom says to me live life in the plural it's not just maisie wakes up and she goes to school or Macy wakes up when she goes to work it's Macy wakes up with Jesus Macy goes on the tube of Jesus

Jesus. Jesus walks Macy into work and they do it together and so when he said that to me it wasn't even just like oh yeah I'm supposed to be here our God is with us Emmanuel he is with us doesn't matter where you are what you're doing he's with us

great yeah it's so beautiful one time a security guard told me and I love this because he was talking about how he had to go through so many scary things like as a security guard and as a police officer like he would have to run into the most dangerous places and he told me one thing that changed his life was he read this book and it said the safest place you can be is in the center of God's will and it gave him so much peace because he realized even if I'm in dangerous places if I'm in the center of God's will for my life

it's the safest place I can be and that has blessed me so much over the years like just go into different places and doing different things with anxiety of like the safest place I can be is in the center of God's will I think not only the safest place but like the most important place like even if you're in the six months of doing something that no one's watching you know or if you're moving somewhere and you haven't felt that confirmation as far as like nothing's blown you away yet you're not getting invited like when you're in those spaces if you know you're in the center of God's will then you have peace in it you know it's like I might not feel great about it right now might not feel good, but I have like this deep confidence that this is like God is with me.

And it changes everything. You guys are so incredible. I'm so blessed by y'all's friendship and sisterhood. I'm like, only God did, you know, you be from all over the world, but originally London and you be from London, me be from Louisiana. And we all have like this commonality in Christ. It's so beautiful. We're not just soul sisters. Like it's not like a, oh, we have our sweet girly moments but I say to Emily and I feel this way about you as well we're sword sisters like in in in nature the lionesses yeah they don't hunt in the day they hunt in the night that's cause design and they don't do it by themselves they actually go together the lionesses they arise they gather and they go in the darkness so we were made we were made for that

the darkness is not dark to him so the darkness shouldn't be dark to us and we're meant to this is the time to arise and gather and go into the darkness together. We shouldn't be afraid. Come on with that word. That's great. Y'all, I just encourage everyone who's listening. Follow along on their socials.

Cheer them on. If you're in London, I hope y'all connect and we can have some more sisterhood going on in London. But truly, follow them along. Emily has a podcast, ribs and nits, right? Check it out. It is beautiful. You're going to be so encouraged by it.

It makes me laugh, but it's also so good. Like, you teach in the word, girl. It's so beautiful. But thank you all for being here as a blessing. Thank you so much for you. We love this sisterhood. We're also blessed.