WHOA That's Good Podcast - Our Birthdays: Gratitude for the Peaks & Pits | Sadie Robertson Huff & Christian Huff

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Sadie and Christian both just celebrated their birthdays and they're taking a minute to look back at the year that was. Sadie and Christian are getting vulnerable and sharing each other's peaks and pits from the past year, plus what they want to take with them moving forward, and what they're choosing to leave behind. And for the first time, Sadie and Christian share publicly their big pit that had them each questioning their core beliefs, how they worked through it, and what they learned in the process. And look, we know birthdays aren't always fun and quite often we may NOT feel like celebrating, but Sadie has some great advice for anyone who chooses to avoid marking their next year and how you, as a friend, can still celebrate them in a way that's honoring their wishes. You never know how life-changing it could be!  https://helixsleep.com/sadie — Get up to 20% OFF AND 2 free pillows! https://liberty.edu/Sadie — Get your application fee WAIVED when you start your future with Liberty University today! https://athleticgreens.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D & 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up? That was poorly timed room, right when it started. Okay. What's up and welcome back to the world that's good podcast. This is your co-host, Christian Hath, the better half of my wife, Sadie. Now that was a bad start. Now that was it. Everyone's gonna roast you that you just called yourself the better half of my wife, Sadie. Now that was a bad start. Now that was it. Everyone's gonna roast you that you just called yourself

the better half. No one's gonna roast me. I'm roasting you right now. Well, hello everybody. I hope that you guys are having a great summer. Right now we are currently pre-recording this by gas to go live right after both of our birthdays because it's our birthday week.

So at this point in life, we will have already had our baby, which is crazy. So if you're listening to this and you're like, why are they not talking about, you know, their new baby, what are they talking about, you know, all the things that are actually having our life. It's because we recorded this before all of that happened. So I hope you're enjoying my mom hosting the piecast. She is the best. And we just want to do a little birthday episode because we love birthdays. Birthdays mean a lot to us. And I know birthdays can sometimes be actually

like a weird conversation for people. People get really freaked out about aging. People get really frustrated about birthdays in general. People feel like birthdays sometimes are a reminder of what they don't have, whether they're all the things that they do have. And so I was like, I would love to get to do a birthday podcast with you.

Your birthday was June 9th, I was June 11th. Together we decided our birthday is June 10th, and today is June 14th. That's true, here we are. So here we are, talk about birthday. Was the birthday, but said, you're right here in my idea. It definitely was not your idea. I thought it might have been my idea.

No, no, it was not your idea. I'm 100% but I will say, going back to birthdays, this kind of goes all the way back to before you're dating. You actually tried to get the hook up with me by telling my sister that we have a birthday two days apart and you were like, hey, Bella, you should tell a Sadie that we could have a combined birthday for you together. I did. Well, I thought it would be a sweet.

This is before we knew each other. Yeah, before we knew each other. Well, yeah, I know you. I knew you. I knew of you. I knew of you. Yeah, but mine, birthday was June 9th. It always has been.

And your birthday is June 11th and it always has been. and your birthday is June 11th, and it always has been. And I was like, it really would be a good idea. I was pitching it. What if we did a birthday party? I was like, I could combine birthday party. Maybe this could be our- And why did you tell Bill of that? Well, because I thought it would be a good segue

to meeting you, and I just thought it just felt right, you know. You touched me. Like, Sadie, this guy, Christian, I know, has a birthday June 9th, which, have you ever heard of like the foot in the door policy? No. So it's when you say, it's when you, yeah, so it's when you do something like outlandish, like you pitch something out landish. And then they kind of like settle on something. Maybe that's actually feasible. Yeah. So it's like, if I have this big elaborate birthday plan, then it's actually feasible. Yeah. So it's like, if I have this big elaborate birthday plan,

then it's not happening, but then maybe it's gonna meet you in the process of planning for the birthday party. Yeah, that's smart. So basically, if I come in and I'm like, I want, you know, I asked for like a $100,000 raise, but really that I just want like a $10,000 raise, then $100,000 seems so outlandish

that when we really settle on 10, this really is what I wanted. But I wanted to get your mind and another spot. Wow, you were really working it way back in the day. No, I literally just had that thought. That's smart. You were working it. So he throws out this idea that we should have a combined

birthday party, of course Bill had never mentioned that to me. But what's really sweet about the whole thing is even though that was not mentioned to me, fast forward, a couple of years later, two years later. Two years later, and on June 9th, what do we do? We have the best combined birthday party ever, and we got engaged. And we got engaged.

So your plan actually might have been prophetic. It might have been. It might have been, it was actually really, really sweet. So like I said, Ella, birthdays. I've always loved planning parties. For birthdays, my mom would always say like the month after my birthday, I'd be planning it for the next year. And it really is true.

And I'm kind of like that now with honey. Like I've been planning her party for the last couple of months. And you know, it's in May. It's currently the end of March when we're filming this podcast. And I just love it. I just love to like celebrate and do fun things. And so for our birthday, it was like the best party ever. We planned this summer Olympics for all of our friends. We had about 40 of our friends come from,

my friends came from Nashville. His friends came from Auburn. We had friends in Louisiana. We had your family from Florida. I mean, we just had like all of our people in one place. And honestly, I did not think we were getting engaged in, because Christian had always said that he wanted it to be like a little bit more of a private setting. And I was saying, I wanted to be more people, but you were like, I wanted to be like me and you, but then we can like go see everybody after. And I just didn't, I just did not think you would do it then, just like everybody was there still baffles me that you did not know that I know I don't know how I did not know I think because I got my hopes up so many times at that

point I was like I'm not get it over think this this is not it and so we play this like some Brawl Olympics games it was so fun I mean highly recommend that for a birthday party we're all like in our 20s, which is like hilarious, as you would think we were 12, but some of the things that we did and the intensity we did them with, but all the day we just like competed and it came to this like climax, this ending that was hilarious. I'd like planned this out literally on a wide erase board for like days. I like, I thought this really there. So basically I had this obstacle course throughout like our entire neighborhood. And you had to carry an egg classic.

Don't break the egg kind of thing. And the egg started at one house and then you would do a task there and then you go to the next and you would do a task there and then you'd do the next and so on and so forth. And so, like, for instance, at one house there was a tennis court. And so, you know, you had to hold the egg, but you had to make a left hand or the opposite of what you are, uh, tennis serve in the box, then you would run the egg to the next place, which happened to be like a little, uh, pudding, like golf coursing. run the egg to the next place, which happened to be like a little pudding, like golf coursing. Actually, it wasn't pudding. It was like a you had to make that in the

hole, then you had to bring the egg to the next house, which had a pool where you had to dive in swim, get this little like thing at the end of the pool. You know, go to the next house, which also had a pool, go dive through that pool, get the next thing. And this is all like teams. So you're passing the egg, then the egg finally makes it to this house where then you have to cook the egg for someone to eat and approve of your egg, and they had to run to this bridge where then we were, where we had to drop off the bridge into the pond, get on a floating unicorn, I know this sounds like a dream, it doesn't even sound real.

I mean, because it's so bizarre. And me and Chris, and all these other people who are on the unicorn. I mean because it's so bizarre and me and Chris are outlanding. And all these other people who are on the unicorn, we are paddling, it came under the last hour paddling as fast as we can. We all get to the sand bar and at this point everybody on your team had to get to the sand bar for you to run up the hill to go underneath the like big finish line and getting 40 of our friends in our 20s, so I'm in their 30s, are booking it, and we are hauling as fast as we can up this hill.

Everyone is sweating, we're muddy, we have like, it's just crazy. And guess who's team one? We did. Crazy. So sometimes I forget we are on the same team. Why? Because I don't know, just competing. I did. Crazy. Sometimes I forget we were on the same team. Why? Because I don't know, just competing against each other.

No, I remember, it was our birthday. We had to win together or lose together. And we won, thankfully. And then I'll never forget it was so funny. So after that, I guess, well, whenever we did the whole unicorn thing. We also got matching shirts. So we made like two sets of shirts for like, we took a picture before,

like a sad face, then like a happy face. And if your team won, you get the shirt with the happy face. It was like in color for whatever. And then if you lost, your team got the, like the sad shirt with, it was like black and white. So extra. We planned every detail of this party. Like it was so fun and people were the shirts for a long time. They kind of faded out. But anyways, it was so fun. And then after it, we had just gone out of the pond because we were the unicorn people. And I like that did kind of hurt whenever we rolled out of the unicorn. And I think you told me that you hurt your ankle and I was like oh like I'm hurt

and too let us go sit down for a second so Christian we go get ice I remember we went and got ice and we're like sitting down for your ankle we're like sitting down and all of a sudden like no one was there like it was like weird like everyone was gone and everyone I guess went to get ready for the night and it just made Christian sitting there and Christian just started getting so nervous and when Christian gets nervous he stutters you do and so he starts like I'm just stuttering from anyways yeah no you really don't though it's just when you get nervous well I sometimes so he starts like stuttering and I'm like oh my gosh and I start looking around like I'm literally looking for a camera I'm like is he about to be posted me right now and like I had the most vain thought I'm like, oh my gosh. And I start looking around, like I'm looking for a camera. I'm like, is he about to be opposed to me right now?

And I had the most van thought. I was like, I just got out of the pond. Like my hair looks terrible. I am mud on me. This is no, man. I have like this champion tanked up on. I was just thinking like, okay, whatever it's not about the way I look.

It's fine. this is awesome. And then you don't like say that, you like say something else. And then you were like, you should go get ready. And you should go put on your favorite outfit you've ever worn in your life. And I was just like, oh, M&G. I know I didn't go to college, but I love college and I think that college is so important. I actually did take a semester just to learn.

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my sisters and at this point it was like I read it was like freaking out and it was so sweet and you were so intentional and I have to say like one of my favorite things about the way you planned for our engagement is whenever We got in the car Christian had gotten all my family to write letters to me and it was like the most kind and thoughtful Being and just like made me feel so loved in that moment and I think like yes that moment was about me and you, but for you to allow my family and your family to speak words of life and encouragement over us in a relationship, which is super affirming because that was something I really desired in marriage for our families to love each other and for our families to approve of our relationship and I know

not every situation is going to be like that and some of you out there have maybe a hard relationship with the family that you joined into and that is tough and there are reasons for that sometimes for sure. But for us, like, that was something that we worked hard towards and so to see that, you know, come to life on that day, which is a really peaceful thought, and it was really sweet. And I wanted to actually read an insert from my book, Live, because I talk about birthdays in it,

and I talk about how words of life can really just change things, because sometimes birthdays are super fun and super extra. We just shared ours was a couple of years ago, and sometimes they are super fun and super extra. Like we just shared ours was a couple of years ago and sometimes they are not fun at all and sometimes they, you know, it's your birthday and it doesn't feel like your birthday. It's your birthday and it's a reminder of what you don't have

instead of the things that you do have. And so this is a little bit long but it's a pretty cool story and it's from the chapter literally called Happy Birthday in my book live It says one time I planned a birthday party for a very good friend someone I loved yearly as her birthday junior She made it clear that she was not excited about this one the closer it got the sadder she became until she Eventually told me to call off the party when I asked her why she said I just don't feel like my life is worth celebrating

I was crushes she felt that way, but I went ahead and canceled the party to honor what she wanted. Just to keep things real with you, I need to tell you that I was angry about this. Not angry with her, but angry at the live enemy I convinced her to believe. Kind of like the anger I have when Christian used to say that he sucked. My friend is an incredible person and the enemy has blinded her to that on her way you loving it what is it? Well yeah cuz I still say I suck sometimes. I need you guys to stop saying that. My friend is an incredible person and the enemy had blinded her to that on her birthday. She was so special in so many ways but she ended up in a funk feeling alone and unlovable. Then making things worse she didn't allow

her friends to be with her and show her how much she really is loved. Sometimes we dig her own pits. She's the kind of friend who is the life of everyone else's party, but when it comes to her own party, she's not feel we're celebrating. On the day of her birthday, I had no idea what to do. On one hand, I wanted to honor her request and ignore the day, but on the other hand, I wanted her to know she was loved and at least worthy of a gift. I prayed about and asked how what to do. By the way, nothing is too silly or simple to pray for. He's so in the details that I got an idea. I gave her two cards.

She opened the first one, which on the outside said, this is a card about nothing. On the inside, I simply wrote Love Yet Sadie and added the date. It was almost as bad as someone replying K to a text message. When she opened it, I said, this is not honor the day that you wanted to have. She read it and laughs sarcastically.

When I gave her the second card, which was more like a mini journal, I said, this is not honor you as a friend. On the front of it, it said, what if? On the first page, I wrote, what if you saw yourself in the way everyone else around you sees you? Then I can promise you that you would know

how worth the celebration you are. That day happened to be her 31st birthday. So in the corridor I wrote a list of 31 reasons why I wanted her to be celebrated. She read it in Wept. She later told me that on the night of her birthday she read over all 31 reasons why she was worth celebrating and said that it was the first night of her life that she had realized and believed that she is lovable. Remember friends words do have the power of life. Go on to tell a story of another friend who didn't want to celebrate her birthday because she had someone pass in her family and how it's really hard to feel like celebrating when

your life doesn't feel like it's worth celebrating or things in your life don't feel worthy of celebration but I think that celebration goes so much beyond a feeling of fun or excitement. The celebration is really a discipline you know to shift your perspective to what is worth celebrating and I think life in and of itself is worth the celebration always because life is a gift and it's given from God who is the creator of the universe who is love himself. So therefore if you have life that means you're loved. If you have life that means you have purpose. If you have life no

matter what the past year of your life has looked like, that means that there is something that God still has for you. That there's a reason why you had breath in your lungs. It was just so cool to see that friend at 31, you know, go from this place of feeling unlovable, unworth celebrating that she literally canceled her party to two years later on her 33rd birthday. She ran a marathon because she was so grateful for the life she had and the brush she had in her lungs. And it's just the power of words, you know, words change things, words of life change things. And so you gave me the gift of words on our birthday,

not just from my family, but from you. You gave me the gift of a promise. You gave me all these gifts. And it means so, so, so much. You know, when I think back to that birthday, yes, the Olympic Games were fun, but and it was my favorite birthday ever, and one of my favorite days of my life, but I think about the words that were said. I think about the words that you said to me before you got done in one knee. And so, just if you're sitting in a situation in life

or you're walking through it with a friend, just don't underestimate the gift of words. You might not know what to give them. There might not be, you know, Lulu Lim and Alfa in the world that can make their birthday better, words. You might not know what to give them. There might not be, you know, a lululemon outfit in the world that can make their birthday better because of how bad life is, but the words that you carry and the words that you say are going to be the thing that are going to change people's lives. And so I wanted to read that because I think that, again, birthdays can be hard, but there's a reason

why we have such a fun time celebrating them. And there's a reason why you shouldn't be ashamed to grow a year older. Like, you know, I hear people in their 20s, they feel like they're so old, you know, whatever they turn 25 or whatever. I'm like, I just turned 26, I'll will turn 26, you're turn 25. I don't feel like old at all. I'm like, you are older than me though. I know what are you.

And that's a fact. Thank you. But I don't feel like old. I actually I'm like, you are older than me though. I am older than you and that's a fact. Thank you. But I don't feel like, oh, I actually feel like excited about what's to come. And I think part of that is because I see like my mom and your mom and our grandparents and like they're just, they love life. And it makes me excited about life, you know?

Yeah. Christian and I, we have these birthday questions that we always ask each other. We've asked each other these questions Ever since we started dating so the past four birthdays, I guess and This is something my friends started. I didn't start this. I learned this from them But there are four birthday questions that we always ask and we're gonna ask each other this on the podcast We have not shared each other's answers with each other yet So we find to actually think about but we always ask ask, what is the, what was the peak of the year?

What was the pit of the year? What is something that we're leaving behind this year? And what is something that we're taking with us? So, Gresham, why don't you start? What was the peak of this year? That is a very good question. And this is almost like, if I had no idea what your typical, like, like with the best food advice You've had Because I really have to think about the peak of my year I've had a lot of peaks and a lot of valleys so it makes it more peaks at this more valley Y'all all your moms out there know that a new baby means long nights of taking care of a baby.

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Yeah but it was fun like yeah getting to travel and also just all the things that God did in our life this year. I feel like you really grow our faith and moments that may be mentioned in the pit But yeah, I would say the peak was with with this scared this few things It's good. I love that my peak this year, which again We could say so many different things But I think when I think about the year and things that stood out to me was definitely a resistor conference last year Because it was like such a Answered as so many prayers for so many years that I was praying with like

revival in our city and God doing something bigger than what we can expect him to do or even ask for a dream of a match and pray for him to do like God just did it and it was like so many things we've been working on for years I've been working towards a conference for years I've been working towards a yellow worship team for years like all these things that have been in the works for years but sometimes I didn't see what they were gonna happen and Like for those who don't really know this and I don't know that I've ever shared this publicly But I want to do a conference for years and I had so many people tell me like

Absolutely not Comments are too hard to do. Comments is don't make money. No one's gonna come to a conference in Westminster, Louisiana There's so many logistics that aren't gonna make sense There's not enough flights for everybody. There's not enough hotels for everybody like it was just like no no no no no But I so felt the Lord put that on my heart to do and specifically to do it here in our hometown because this is where I've been praying for years, for God to just blow our expectations. And I just love that it's here because it's just like, it's when you do something in a small town with even just a small thought process and in a sense, I guess a small minded in a sense, I think it just makes God look so much bigger

because it's like, okay. Because some of the things were true. Like, we didn't have flights there. No, like that all is true. Like all of those things are true. That is like very much fact. Like people were not crazy for telling me this is a bad idea or no,

but it was like I knew God said do this and it's so cool to see that like God did not size down to our town or size down to our thinking or size down to our logistics. Like God was as big as can be as big as he is right in the mix of our small town and that was just really cool and there was a moment at conference specifically where Taya was like leading worship and she was supposed to go into the song, build my life and I knew that because I knew the setlist and she'd start singing a little worship song open and she'd only heard of something I before. It was so unexpected. And here all of a sudden, and Taya is not only singing like she is leading like open.

And all of these girls are like singing open and to clear this over their life. And I'm sitting backstage and I'm like, just cannot stop crying. And I remember Emily Volkotan, who was standing right beside me looked at me. She goes, why are you crying? She's like, is it because Taya is leading an L.O. worship song at L.O. Conference in your hometown. I was like, yep, that is it. That is exactly why I'm crying. And it was just one of those moments where you just start like, God, this is only you. This could only be you. So that was definitely a peak moment of the year for me. Yeah, so much happens in the year, I forget about that. That was a peak. Yeah, and you and Honey were there and all of our friends and family.

And that was the other thing that was cool, is all of our friends and family were there. Like I looked around and the choir was like my grandma. And on worship team, we're like, some of my friends since I was babies, like baby friends, you know, and then will my brother. And my mom was helping lead a breakout session. Lini was leading a breakout session. You and dad, I mean, there was like all of our family and friends pouring into this mission of vision for like girls to be on fire for God.

And it's just like, it was amazing. It was beautiful. Our church was there serving like, it was just so cool. That was 100% a peak. 100%. So now we talk about the pit, Wamp Wamp. But here's the cool thing about time up pits. And why we always bring up the pit. Not armpits, but pitfalls. True, we don't need to talk about the pit, wom wom. But here's the cool thing about time up pits. And why we always bring up the pit.

Not armpits, but pitfalls. True, we don't need to talk about armpits. Unless you want to talk about native beauty, I'm just kidding. Which you do say I smell bad right now. Yeah, and you probably should put on some native beauty. But that's not the kind of pit we're talking about. We were talking about the kind of pits

that are like the worst thing that happened in the year. But the reason we do talk about this on our birthday is because it actually really is cool to look back and to see some of the things That you went through that are really hard that God brought you through or even just openly talk about some things that are really hard That you're still walking through and like bringing in someone into that picture And so I feel like sometimes like when we do the peek in the pit, especially when we're at dinner people They're like, oh, like I don't want to go too serious. And it's like, no, it's good to talk about that because you can talk about what God brought you through.

And we definitely had some major pits as well. Major pits. I wonder if right now you could like enter like the, like the, well, well, wow. Maybe we can do that in the post. Yeah, maybe we could get that in. I don't think we should take this product, because this is real, and this is organic. Okay. Well, well, okay our pit

Well, we were in the pit together and it's the same pit So really we can both talk about the pits. Yeah, do you mean as you go? Well, we yeah, you can start and I'll Inner time. Okay, so this story we have not shared publicly besides I shared it if gathering this year. And um, which I don't think we should share it to to public. Yeah, we're not. I shared it if gathering this year in a vague way. And I will share it again in a vague way because it's kind of just our story and needs to just be a little bit more private.

But I shared it if gathering it still hasn't been posted online to my knowledge yet, but I think it is important to share to some degree because I think sometimes we have this balance, her Christian eye where it's like We want to share the hard stuff because we don't want you to think that our life is perfect because it in no way is And it's not that we're not sharing the hard stuff to protect some kind of image But sometimes we don't share some of the hard things that we walk through for literal like protection of our family because when we share a hard thing we know it's gonna be on every headline, it's gonna be all out there, and then people are subject to you know just hearing a story from a headline and not hearing it from us,

and so when we're more private with things it's coming from a play sub protection. And then this case certainly protection because it had to do with our daughter. So long story short and long story protected. Christian and I were out on the passion tour. And some of you might, even this might be an answer to why we didn't go on the next week of the passion tour. And some of you might, even this might be an answer to why we didn't go on the next week of the passion tour. We were set to be there a whole another week in all these cities. We didn't have not going, we never said anything

about it as to why we weren't there. I hinted at it on Instagram that we went through a hard time and we're coming out of it and all this stuff and never really gave details. And so basically we're out in a passion tour when my mom and Honey actually were out with us the first start of the week. And then I was like so sick.

This pregnancy, I was throwing up all day every day on the bus. Like it was just really hard. And my mom was like, say why don't you just take Honey home with me because you are like clearly so sick. Like I think it would just help you because you know, she could take honey,

I could just lay down all day, throw up as much as I needed to, go out speak at night, come back lay down. And so it was like, you know, that might be a smarter decision. Symantec, honey home, we stay out on the road. And it was a night we were in Tallahassee, Christian's family was there.

It was honestly one of the best nights in ministry that we had had on the road. I mean, it was just really powerful night. Amazing response. I felt like God was really speaking to me, speaking through me. And it was just awesome. And then I got a call from my mom right after

and she was like, hey, so you need like, she was pretty calm. She was just like, hey, like, we're gonna go ahead and take honey to the hospital because we kind of just noticed something that we just want to get checked out. And I was like, wait, what? And the reason why I immediately started crying and knew something was wrong is because I'm always the one that thinks we need to go to the hospital and my mom's always talking me off the ledge like, you don't need to go to the hospital, you're fine, she is fine, all the things.

I'm just a little bit more of an overreactor, my mom is very much like chill, like mellow person. And so for my mom to be like, we're taking her to the hospital, I knew something was wrong enough that my mom is taking her to the hospital. And so anyways, my mom's like, assuring me that she thinks she's fine, she was just like,

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with your first purchase by going to athleticgreens.com slash woe, that's athleticgreens.com slash woe to check it out today. So my mom's like sending me videos of honey, she seems totally fine, she's laughing, giggling. So I was feeling like a little bit better, but still just something in my heart was just like, I have got to get home. Like I do not want to be out in the road right now.

Now mind you, we were nine hours away at this point from West Monroe where we live. And so we were about to take the bus, not to West Monroe. We were about to take the bus to Nashville because like I said, we still had more of a tour to do. But I was like telling Christian, like I do not want to take the bus, not to a busmer. We were about to take the bus to Nashville because like I said, we still had more of the tour to do, but I was like telling Christian like, I do not want to be anywhere else but home right now. Even if there's nothing wrong with Honeywood Jack, hope and expect that there isn't, I would

really just be home and then get home in the morning and then show wake up and we'll be with her. You know, whatever. So, Christians like, okay, like if that's what you want do. And our team was there, we were like, okay, we decided we're gonna start driving back to Monroe and go ahead and at least just miss the day in Nashville. So we started driving in about an hour into our drive. My mom calls and this time it's a lot more serious

and she's crying at this point and my grandma's crying two people that I don't see cry a lot and They are like telling me that honey is now gonna have to be airfited to Shreeport to a different hospital because the situation was actually really bad and You know that's just like the worst phone call ever. And it was extremely scary. And Christian and I were eight hours away with no faster way to get there than drive them a night.

While we didn't know what was going on with their daughter, what was going to happen to our daughter. And there was a lot of what ifs, a lot of unknowns. And it was literally the worst night of our life. We had probably more tears than we've ever cried. Well for sure me, I can say. No, for sure, definitely. Yeah, for sure.

I was pretty hysterical, I was like calling everyone I knew to pray, but in doing that I was just so freaked out. My friend who was with us was like, say, you're literally gonna pass out if you don't stop and like breathe for a second. Um and so yeah it was just really dark and a lot of dark questions, a lot of dark thoughts, um yeah a lot of just hitting us with a reality that we've never been hit with before. And so anyways we end up getting there that morning and um God had done a lot in in the situation and she was at a good place

and a lot of the fears that we thought might happen weren't going to happen. And although we were so grateful for that and we were so grateful to see her and see her healthy and see her healing, it still left those with just like a lot of doubt in our faith, honestly, and frustration. And I had never walked through that kind of like doubt and frustration with God before. I don't really get mad at God. I'm definitely like a defender of my people.

And I can always kind of like defend for the good. One of my friends or my family or my people, you can tend to lend a little more towards that anger, righteous anger. And I just happened. But in this moment, like I was and that kind of came from a year of... As but I was saying, yeah, because this moment was kind of like the climax of like... A year. A year of. Because it was one of those things where like we had said every time we had gone to do something ministry like traveling something bad it

happened 90% of the time it landing on honey it was just it was weird it felt like every time like I had a speaking event come up something bad happened honey or something bad happened to our family one of us got sick one of us got I don't know it it was just weird. It was just like, call it coincident or not. It seemed like every time we were doing something good for God, something bad happened to us. That's what it seemed like.

Yeah, so that moment was just kind of like the height of, yeah, like a build up of a year than that kind of being like the pinnacle of, yeah, just the terribleness. Yeah, and so I was just like, God, are you kidding me? Like, why would you do this? Like, why is it that every time I go do something

like it seems like for you, like something bad happens to us, like do you not have our back or you not force you to with us? Like, what happened to no webbing formed against the show Browser what happened to your strength in our shield like like really just like throwing back at God like who he said He was going to be and like why why do I not see that right now? And I love David Platt said he said you know you have to ask yourself this question in your faith like do you believe that God is good

He is holy and he is powerful when those attributes of God are not displaying your current situation. That was very convicting for me because here I am and I have always believed that He is good, He is holding His powerful. But right now I don't see those attributes. So do I really believe it? Whenever I can't see it, which of course that is faith, right? But it's hard when you're faced with something like that, and I love John Mark Comer says it like this to you, he said, everybody has a public belief, a private belief and a core belief. And your public belief is what you know, you shout out to the rooftops, you know, private belief is a little bit more like what you believe when you're at home with your family. And you have this core belief. And that is what you truly believe when the things you desire and love most are stripped away from you. And I think that honestly, I think this is the first time, one of the first times in my life.

I think I could look at it in some other ways and maybe there were times like walking throughout fame and some of the, you know, pains of just media and people being rude to you and cancel culture and all that that I walked through that might have, like, led me to a core belief moment. But I think that this was the first time that it was as hard for me because to me, I can take mean comments, I can take being canceled whatever, it's not like the end of the world to me, but my daughter being in pain,

that's the worst thing that could happen to me. And so core belief, what do I believe in this moment? Yeah, and we were in the pit for a while Yeah, and so this is super quick. No, and so again like the hospital moment was the hospital moment We ended up being there for close to like a week in and out and That was a lot of wrestling and stuff And then it led into our home life of this wrestle. And I think it was like super hard for our marriage because Christian and I have always

had God as our firm foundation. Like he was the thing that's unshakable. Like that is our core. And that's what our relationship is based on. And when we both begin begin to question the character of God, it made us like mad at each Heather distant from each other, questions like everything just got shaky because our firm foundation got shaky. Yeah. And our personnel is just handled things differently. Yes. You know, like you get fearful, I get angry and I need affirmation for the anger which you weren't giving me and you needed comfort in your fear Which I wasn't giving you because I was angry. Yeah, we were just the two. Yeah, so the two just you know They don't mesh well together when they're not Performing well no and in those kids. We were not helping each other at all like I say this about that situation

You know when you go through a hard thing together as a couple, it either brings you closer, it kind of separates you. And it began to separate us because we handled that as two individual people and not two or better than one, you know, like we were not acting like one, we're acting like two. And that was really hard. And I remember, though, what began to change for me, and then I want you to share what changed for you. And this is like the beauty of sharing the pit is, you know, you really get to see your testimony, you really get to see what God did. And so like we painted the picture of how dark it was, how bad it was, all this stuff.

And again, like there's so many details, we're not gonna share that, let us why we were in the state that we were in. We were for our podcast. We, oh my gosh, it would just be a whole series. Sadie's book will be soaking wet at this point. Because I'm crying. Yeah, I would. So we're not going there. But um, I had this moment with God where it was just very honest. And I said to God, you know, I just can't do this anymore like I'm not

gonna keep doing this ministry stuff God if if it means that my family's gonna suffer like I just and this is like so to I mean it's so not even biblical what I'm saying but it was emotional And this is so not what it looks like to follow. That one judges for a kiss. This is not, this is not what it looks like to follow, like Jesus, like Jesus, like pick up your cross, leave everyone, leave your family, leave your mother, like, and yes, like I would say

that I believe that until I'm in this moment. And now I'm like, this is too much, like I don't wanna do this anymore. Like if my family's gonna suffer, then like, I don't wanna keep going out and speaking. I don't wanna write a book. If I just get to mean that to suffer, then like I don't want to keep going out and speaking. I don't want to write a book. If it's going to mean that our marriage is going to show like why is it that every time we put something out

or we do something, it seems like we get attacked. Like I mean, we're praying for your protection. We're already this whole thing. And so I said, God, like I know I remember this, it's just like that. I know you say to count the costs, but if she's the cause, if this is the cause, I can't do it.

And immediately I felt, it's two times in my life, I have felt the Lord responding this way and both times it has completely shifted my perspective of who God is. And I felt the Lord say I understand. And it was like the most empathetic heartfelt, believable understanding. And the reason that I felt the Lord said that I understand is because as soon as I said it, as soon as I was like, if she is the cause of my daughter's the cause, it's too much for me,

I realized that like from a father's perspective, his son is too much for me, I realize that like, from a father's perspective, his son was the cost for me. Like, This episode is brought to you by Soda Genero. As Soda Genero, touch isn't just for screens. Physical connection is so essential to how we communicate. It's infused in everything we offer. Since Soda Resistable, PDA is guaranteed.

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that I've known my whole life, but it never became so real to me that with my core belief was challenged. Like John 316, I have heard it my entire life. I had quoted it, I have preached it for God so loved the world that he gave his one only son that whoever should believe in him should not perish but have eternal life.

I got to know that verse, but I've always looked at it as like, oh, Jesus endured the cross. Like thank you Jesus that you suffered. But what I've never really put into perspective was, well, like from a father's perspective, you gave him up to do that. Like you did that. And so, you know, having this understanding of this revelation that God is not putting

me through this, but he's actually like walking with me through it, like that we do live in an evil and broken world and bad things Are gonna happen because it's the nature of the world we live in like God's not making the bad things happen But God impatizes with us when we walk through the valley like oh, man I love that verse even though I walk through the valley of shadow dead. I love fear of evil It doesn't say I'm not gonna walk through the valley of shadow dead It says I don't have to fear evil. Why? Because he's with me.

Because his rod and his staff, they comfort me. So this revelation of, I'm going to walk through valleys. Like, I'm going to be in pits. I'm going to have to count the costs. But how much greater will it be in life to count the costs to walk through the valley to walk through pits knowing that God is with me as a comforter, then to walk it without, you know? And only a comforter, but one who understands the depth of the valley, the depth of the pit,

the pain of the cross, the cost, that that really means. And so that broke me, that began to shift things in me and you had your own breaking later. That's good. Yeah, and so I conveniently had, or not I had this plan, but conveniently after, about a week and a half after that had happened, I'd had this miniature treat planned

that I was going on, it's like a lottery system thing that I got accepted in. And you had gotten that months ago. There's some saying, it was like, yeah, almost four months before this had happened. And it's just, I'm saying it's convenient or interesting that it was a week and a half after the situation. Being going into it just super hard hard hard and hard did not really feel like I was gonna get anything out of a retreat you know I've been on

a lot of retreats and I just kind of felt like it was gonna be just one of the same old things and like a day and a half into it I been on a lot of retreats and I just kind of felt like it was gonna be just one of the same old things um, and I could day and a half into it. I was on a walk with one of my friends who was there with me and I said Like I really don't see myself leaving here like actually impacted by this at all which is kind of funny Yeah, it's like a I really just did not you didn't really want to be there Well, well there was reasons why I did not want to be there one because we did not have our phones and I was anxious of like if something else happened to honey You know, how am I gonna know because I don't have my phone. I can't text you say hey, how are things going because you know Did I have a phone or a watch or anything?

So yeah, I just for multiple reasons just kind of thought like maybe I would skip this one and you know, reapply for the next one or whatever. But yeah, that night after I said that to my friend on a walk, yeah, the Lord just really broke me down and really just revealed just anger that I had in that situation and doubt and uh yeah just a lot of it. It kind of came from you opening up and sharing with like a bunch of men. Uh huh. Who like walked out with you prayed for you, taught out with you and um I don't know, forget seeing you when you came back from the retreat, like you look different. Like you look so light, you're like tears in your eyes and the smile like there's a softness

about you. I feel like God really softened your heart and and from the really that day on, like I feel like you've changed in a lot of ways. I feel like our marriage since last October, which was like the hardest time we've ever faced in our marriage, October November, to now being the strongest, I would say we've ever been, is really because our faith got shaky, you know, for a time which pushed us to really answer these like big questions of what do we really believe

like what is our core belief as a family? And now that foundation is more solid than ever, individually and together. For me, I had to go through some of the hard pit to find the revelation of who God is. And you had to go through that too to find the revelation of who God is. And for us both finding that,

it has actually made us as a couple so much stronger. And so, you know, it's one thing to say, God's at the center of the relationship and it's another thing to really live like it. And I feel like we set it for a long time. And in some ways we live like it. But I feel like now there's no question that that is the center, that is the solid foundation. And I feel like there were some messed up things in our thinking that we had to flush out. Like, like I said, this is so not even biblical, this is what I thought.

You know, some of the things that we thought about God, some of the ways that we question Him, that we just shifted in our language, we shifted in our house, and it's made the biggest difference. So, lots of people are interested in this. Yeah, when it's just human, you know, like if you have an expectation of something and it doesn't, you know, look the way you think it's gonna look, there is disappointment. And that's just what you do with that disappointment, you know,

because like we talk about it, then the day God's not prom, like, you know, sometimes we put our expectations on something that God hasn't promised us, but we think it's a promise But it's really just an expectation And what you do with that disappointment when it does come because it will come, you know, you are gonna be disappointed But it's you know, how do you How do you wrestle with that? You know, is there doubt? Is there anger or confusion? Possibly, but you don't you know forsake that

or a certain confusion, possibly, but you don't, you know, forsake that within the day. Yeah, I think like for me, it's not that you can't doubt God, he can handle it. It's not that you can't ask our questions of God. He can handle it. I mean, we see that throughout David's life. Like, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Like, there are gonna be moments where you feel like that.

It's just, I think for me, I don't want every time I have a disappointment in life or something goes wrong for me to immediately go to doubt. Like I want it to go to a trust and God of saying like, I don't know why this is happening in my life. I understand we live in a broken world, but God, like I choose to trust you. And I love Ben Stewart said at passion that both of us really, that's so good. Where he was talking about the storm and how when Jesus was on the boat with the disciples in the storm came and they immediately were like, so afraid of the storm and they began to doubt God.

I do even want us to live and all that stuff. And Ben Stewart said it so beautifully when he said, you know, they were more certain about the power of the storm than they were certain of the power of their God and their boat. And Christian and I said after passion, like, we do not want to be a family that's more certain of the power of the storm than we are certain about the power of our God. It doesn't mean that we're still not going to be a little bit like, holy cow, there's a storm and this is hard and acknowledge the hardness of it or maybe the fearfulness of it, but there's a deep trust in the fact that my God's on the boat. And I don't want to raise my kids in such a way

that they're more scared of the storm than they are certain of the power of God in the boat. So yeah, we've come through a lot of things like that. So we only have a couple more minutes and we have even got got last two questions. Well, these are two very quick things. Okay, I'm just gonna just bam, bam. What do you leave them behind?

I'm leaving behind anxiety from the pit that we just talked about for a long chunk of time. And I'm taking with me laughter. That's good. You feel like you laugh for this year? I don't know. I just just felt it. Okay. That's good. Well, I think that actually is good though, that you're living behind anxiety from the pit because that's true. Like sometimes you go through something in a year and you can carry in the bad things with you to

the next year. If you don't stop and say like, actually, that's not coming with me, you know, like the revelation of how good God is is, but the anxiety is staying behind. Thank you. Let's get, okay, I'm leaving behind something that I shifted in this year was, remember, I decided that my mind was crazy because my mind was all over the place because I was trying to do 10 million things, while also keep up with social media

and do all this stuff for work and be a good mom and be a good friend and be a good friend and be a good wife and I just always felt like I was just like being pulled in every direction and I was just like never taking like mental breaks to just let my mind rest because like honestly I was like saying every time I rested I was like scrolling social media which is not restful and remember I was like oh my gosh my mind is just crazy. So I decided to delete social media and Just like take a year off from scrolling and it was like the best decision ever because my mind is just so clear So I'm not saying I'm leaving behind social media and that but I am leaving behind no, but I'm leaving behind a scattered mind Okay, it really is intentional actions like it's not always go like social media because I'm obviously

going to get social media back because I see it as a good tool for so many good things. But also, I'm like, there's got to be intentionality in your thought process or you will have a scattered mind. You will have an anxious mind. I mean, like, so many things in the Bible about think about such things. Like, set forth on your mind like always, like it takes intentionality to like have good thoughts. And so I'm taking with me that intentionality and leave behind the scatteredness. Good job, babe. Thanks.

Great job. Well, this was a really great episode. Well, this was so great. And we just are so thankful that you, you know, you took the last 50, so minutes to spend your time with us today on June 14th. So we love you guys and I cannot with you, but for real, this actually was really helpful,

even talk it out for us. And if this was for no one but us, then I'm glad we did it. And I hope that y'all are encouraged. And as your birthday swings around this year, that maybe it'll help you get past some of the things that were hard this year and move forward into the future God has for you. And maybe you can leave behind some of the things that I've held you down for so long and take with you. Some of the things that God has been teaching you and instructing you in. And man, we're grateful for the peaks and the pits and all the things in between.

And I'm grateful for you. You should have, you should have just ended. You should not have asked me to do the ending. Did you really do the ending? I did ask you to do the ending. You were way better at that. I did not ask you to do the ending. Well, there was some miscommunication there.

Love you guys. Love you guys. Bye bye. you