WHOA That's Good Podcast - Red Flags, Rap Music, and Santa—“WABBY” is back! | Sadie & Christian Huff | Will & Abby Robertson

Episode Date: September 23, 2026

Will and Abby Robertson join Sadie and Christian for some of the questions that get asked ALL the time, and nothing is off the table! They get real about dating red flags, whether attraction can grow, and how the things you watch and listen to can shape you more than you realize. They unpack the pressure to go viral, Sadie gets real about her good and bad experiences navigating online criticism, and everyone weighs in on one of the hottest Christian-parent debates: Santa Claus. https://goodranchers.com/WHOA - Start your plan and get a FREE GroundBeef Bundle with your first Good Ranchers order http://primallypure.com - Get 15% off your order when you use code WHOA at checkout! https://savanutrition.com - Get 15% off your order when you use code WHOA at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's drink element, lminti.com slash woe. Ready, happy woe that's good Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week, but per usual, it is about to get so much better. Today is going to be such a fun episode because we are actually answering some of your most asked questions in the voicemails.

We condense them, put it in a little piece of paper, and y'all, we have some fun ones. We're going to be talking about red flags in dating. We're going to be talking about going viral and getting followers, and we're going to be talking about Santa Claus. We can't wait to discuss all these things that you guys have asked, and we have some incredible guests in the house. We have co-host Christian, of course, and we have Wabby. Will and Abby Robertson. Welcome back to the pod. Wabi. What up?

Wabby forever. It could be Wabby or ale. I like Wabby better. I agree. I think Wabby might be the better to say. I agree. Hey, look, it's ale. It's ale. It's ale. What kind of ailness do you have? We're just thinking with Wabby. We like Wabby. We like Wabby. We've had some fun episodes with y'all, and today we kind of are doing something fun, too.

We took a lot of the voicemails people have sent in, and these are the most asked questions condensed down. But before we get into that, because y'all are on and we never really get to talk about pop culture on this podcast, what are some of the shows? y'all are watching. We have quite a few. Y'all always have quite a few. Do y'all color coordinate? Because it's a vibe. No.

Well, we did. This is not a unified effort. Is it really? That's really wild. That is so cool. We both felt green today, I guess. She went up, she got up and did Pilates this morning. And so I, like, I had to move my car, but I got back in bed.

So I didn't know what you were. I didn't even see each other. We didn't even see each other. So I put on this in the green. hat. And then I came home from Pilates and showered and put on green too. I feel like we tend to do that a lot, though. We do.

We do. Yeah. And it's very unintentional, but I feel like, you know, since we're married now. Just, you're the most, like, together couple, though. You really are. Yeah. You very much, like, you really don't see one without the other. Yeah.

You're Pee and J. We are. That's why they're wetties. That's why they're wavy. That's right. Okay, shows. We watch Big Brother. we've been watching St. Dennis Medical,

which has been really funny. St. Dennis Medical is really funny. It's like the office, but it's in a hospital. Yeah. Yes, it's very funny. Have you all watched Abbott Elementary? You all would have liked that. You all should watch that one.

But we watched Abbott. What do you watch it on? Well, both are on Netflix and Peacock. Okay. So like the NBC kind of took over all the peacock stuff. I mean, yeah, yeah. No, Peacock took over all the NBC's stuff. stuff. So it's Office,

not Brooklyn Nine-Nine, but Parks and Rec, St. Dennis, all that is on Peacock. And so we watch a lot of our stuff on there. And then, what else do we watch? We've been watching New Curl. Yeah. We've been watching the Office superfan

episodes. Oh yeah, the superfan episodes. I think I can count on one hand the amount of shows we have watched together. Really? Really? Oh, no, I know, really. It's crazy. I'm trying to feel I also have kids. So, I mean, it's very different. It's so hard to watch shows consistently when you have kids. I don't know when you do it. But that's why I like to hear what's going on in the world whenever I talk to y'all. I'm like,

let's know who I'm watching. But I am watching Disney with the Stars next pro. Yes, we are watching much. By the time this comes out, it'll all be over. It will be on. Yeah. But I'm loving the next pro. It's been really good. At first I was like, okay, like by the end of this, am I really going to love them like the pro? Like am I going to want? And then I did. You have fallen in love with the characters. It's so sweet. Yeah. four people, by the end, I was like any one of them could be a pro, and I'd be excited, but Alan. I don't watch. I wish Alan stayed.

Justice for Alan. Really, falling in love with just the plot. Yeah. I didn't, I'm barely watching it. I wasn't expecting me. Well, Robert O. In his hosting.

I love at the end. He's like, Robert. And goodbye. It's like, I'm Robert Ovin. It makes it seem like he's live. Like, he goes into this whole monologue afterwards and it's, It's really funny. It's so sweet.

But it's awesome. It's really cool. I love it. You watch shows without me, though. Like, you've watched some shows recently. Not really. What have you been watching? You'll be like, I'm going to watch my show.

What's that mean? Well, I watch an episode of Reacher, but that's like a once a week thing. That's only like a seven episodes. Yeah, but you've never seen Reacher. Okay. Hey, that's a show, Christian. If I'm watching like my show, I don't have any, like, like my shows right now. That's the only other show I watch, at least right now.

Chris Brat's new show comes out, I think in October. What am I watching that's airing right now? It's on Netflix. Which I will watch the Termin'Lest when it comes out. That's Chris Pratt's new show. Yeah, you like in 10 shows. Then I also watch House of David every week. You like in 10 shows? I like reality shows. We still need to watch them. We like funny. You're watching like 10 shows right now and House of David's not one of them? We did need to stop and watch that. Crazy work. I did need to stop and watch that. I started watching the Fast and Furious franchise.

actually. Re-watching. Okay. I'm all about family. Yeah, it's all about family and cars. We've also seen some good. You just snort? Wow.

All about family. I'm so glad you feel comfortable on this. I don't think I've ever done that in my life. I've never snorted. I need it except the skin worse. Sadie. Christian, I'm honored that you feel that same here.

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Oh. I'm dead. That actually did happen. Also some good movies, Spider-Man. We saw. Spider-Man. It was great. It was so good. Paul Patrol. Paul Patrol was fire. I cried. Oh, you cried.

I literally cried. Honey was like loving that I had cried. She thought it was the funniest thing about. I was so proud of Marshall. That pup overcame some stuff. Oh, man. I really was. There's something about when he hugged Ryder. It was Ryder's pride. I'm literally going to cry again talking about it. It's really just the fact that a fire dog has an amazing character arc.

You mean it's a Dalmatian. Is it? Okay. You know what? I didn't even think about that. Like, I didn't even think about him. You didn't think about the fact that March was a Dalmatian, which is why he's in charge of the fire? Nope. Baby. And then the fact that it was a volcano, that's good writing. That's good writing. Okay. Anyways, Palm Patrol. It's going to hit harder next time you want you. Moana live action was great. I don't care what you say. I still haven't seen it.

I want to though. I loved it. I don't know if I'm going to watch it. Yeah, you didn't even let Moana too. Just tough to hear. I liked Moana too. Who said that? John Luke.

John Luke and Mary Kate were heavily opinionated on how it was not as good. I thought both of them were good. I liked, I do like the first one better. I think the first one is better in every way. This actually. fits really well into our next question. Is it wrong for Christians to listen to secular music slash watch secular movies? We get this question a lot. You want to speak into it and then we'll go? Yeah, I'll say just from like my experience, I have kind of felt like different convictions from

Lord. Like just as far as like what really like I guess determines the outcome of my day. Like it's something changed me. I don't even remember what movie kind of started it, but just some movies and TV shows, it's like, okay, I know I shouldn't be watching this. I know this isn't healthy for my eyes to see. And it makes you think about the verse that's like your eyes or the window to your soul. And I've just started thinking more about that as I've gotten older and been more intentional with what I put into my soul.

And I think it's important to just listen to your own convictions. and if you think I maybe shouldn't be watching this, chances are you probably shouldn't be watching this. Yeah. So that's my kind of take. Same thing with music. I think it changes the atmosphere of the room. I think it changes the atmosphere of your,

or I guess your mind, just in general. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I love music and I love everything about every genre of music. And I think in just this past year, I have come to the like realization like wow I'm really making unconscious decisions and with my habits and like the things that I'm not supposed to be doing because I'm listening to stuff that's not holy and the stuff that's not like benefiting like my brain and my lifestyle and I'm not I'm listening to things that are extremely like there's not benefiting like my brain and my lifestyle and I'm not I'm listening to things that are extremely like there's And so, um, that, you've seen the direct like impact. Oh, 100%. Yeah. I've seen the direct impact that that it's, it's made on me and on a lot of people in our generation. It's just like I,

it's kind of shaped who you are in a way. It's kind of weird because like I'm, I love hip hop and and I love Christian hip hop. I love secular hip hop. But there was one day like I was drive, I was on my way to go work out. And like, that's what I listen to to work out. And I listen to secular hip hop. And I throw, I throw some Christian hip hop in there. But then on the way, I was like, man, I got to start listening to more uplifting stuff. And I remember watching one of your stories and you're just listening to worship music. And I was like, I want to start doing that. So I just, I deleted my entire secular hip hop plays that had like over. eight hours worth of songs on there that I had like built up over the years. I just deleted it all.

And, um, and it's benefited me a lot and how I can just now, it makes it so much easier to, in a drive, if I'm just hanging around the house, put on some worship music. It's so, it's so easy. And I feel like it, it really alters your brain and your lifestyle and it. Yeah. That's so cool. It's super weird, but it's like very impactful. Wow. It makes me think of your first tattoo. Have nothing to do. Isn't it what the fruit? It's Evisions 5. Yeah. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It's really good. We talked about this on the, on the duck car room podcast. We did. Did you really? Literally our very, most previous episode. Ducco room crossover with our conversation.

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Again, that's primarily pure.com with the code whoa. I love hearing that from y'all. Like, it's super cool to hear what God's done in y'all's life even recently because I remember that for me. Because I used to watch everything everybody else was watching, listen to everything everybody else was watching. And honestly, like, didn't even feel a conviction in it. You know, I would watch Crazy Anatomy and scandal and all that stuff back in high school

and didn't even like think, oh, I shouldn't necessarily be. watching this even though it was bad and now like I can't watch that like I don't want to watch it you know I'm like no I would feel so uncomfortable to watch that because I'm so much more I'm just a lot more like I care about what like the state of my mind and my heart and once you like know what it feels like to like have peace and like have just like the fruit of the spirit it's like you don't want to do anything to like compromise that it's like no I don't really want that and I was thinking about, I was in this Bible study last week, Oneika McClellan leads it. It's on Thursdays. It's on Zoom. Anybody can join. It's Shoreline's Orchard. Is that an Orchard Girls Bible study?

Anyways, it's so good. And she was talking about how like praying that God would change your taste buds. And she was talking about like in a diet, if you go from like eating sugar all the time to like no sugar, it can feel like, oh my gosh, like it's so hard at first because you're like dying to what you love. But then over time, like, the Lord changes your taste buds. And it's like, oh, that doesn't even taste good anymore. I don't even crave that anymore. And it's the same thing with, like, music and shows that you watch. Like, at first, it's like, oh, that's going to be hard because I just deleted eight hours of something that I've spent so much time building up this playlist. But it's like, oh, I don't even crave that anymore. Like, that doesn't even taste good like it used to,

you know? And it's so true. Like, sometimes you have to make that hard cut and it's going to be hard because you're like dying to self. But then God gives you new taste buds. He gives you a new appetite for the things that are pleasing to him, to the things that are holy, to the things that actually fill you up. And then it's like, oh, I don't want anything artificial. Like I want something that fills me.

Yeah. And I've experienced that in my life. That's great. That's good. The amount of random thoughts I've had since we started talking about this question because there's so many, at least in my mind, and I'm trying to articulate everything I'm thinking, because it's more nuanced

than I think people want to give it credit for but I think in saying it's more nuanced people might hear that I'm trying to blur the lines so my point is watching Paw Patrol or Spider-Man is different than watching Wolf of Wall Street Yeah which is secular It's not like a Christian show

Or me listening to Ed Sheeran It's different than me listening to future or some other derogatory rap person So my point is kind of like what Abby said you have to find that conviction level for you. And I'm not saying, you know, I think, I don't want the person to hear. It's like, it will teeter the line as close as you can get. That's not what I'm saying.

But I do think that there are certain circumstances to where it's like, yes, this is actually just awful for you. And this is something that it's like you can still be in the world, but not of the world. And I think sometimes when you separate yourself so much, you do lose a sense of, awareness, a sense of relatability, even from the sense of like you have Paul in the New Testament who can relate to things that Athens and Greece was doing with games and Paul talking about athletes and stuff of athletics because he understood the culture of stuff. And I think something that your family does a good job in is that with secular things, it's you always try to pull truth out of it. And it's whether it's watching some secular movie, it's, okay, how,

where do you see Jesus in this? Where do you see, like, what's a messaging that you can actually, you know, take and pull lessons from? One of the best, like, ways to get analogies that really open people's eyes, especially in this generation, like, one of my favorite ones was, like, preaching on Moana, you know, because people are talking about Moana. And then when you have an analogy that represents something, some aspect of the heart of God, and people can go, like, oh, I recognize that.

Just like in the Bible, like Jesus would use parables, and it would be, like, relatable things to them at the time. Whereas like some of the parables don't seem relatable to us because that's not what we do in our day, but we understand what he was saying. But to them, it would have been like, oh, I got it. Like, that's what I see every day. So it is really cool, because you can see God and all of those things. But I do agree with you. Like there is such a difference. Like, for instance, Kit, Kit's a little worshiper. Like this morning we're listening to worship. She has her hands raised in the air. She says like, Jesus. Like she loves Jesus. She loves to worship. But that girl's favorite song is London boy about Taylor's.

Swift. Every time she hears that beat, you know, I love my London boy. She's dancing. And, like, I don't feel bad that she's listening to London Boy. You know, it's a secular song, but she's just, like, dancing and having fun. And so I do think it would be different if I was, like, playing some Sabrina Carpenter super inappropriate, you know, it's like, you got to weigh that discernment. It's kind of like when you were talking about, well, it's like, for me, I would find myself listening to, at least early on in my walk, these terrible rap songs. And it's like, well, then I'm, Well, then it's like, no wonder I'm wanting to go watch pornography or I'm lusting or I'm having these thoughts. Well, I just listen. While I was working, I was listening to an hour of a rapper talk about these awful things.

And it's like, oh, well, that's why I'm thinking these things. But even when I was reading the question, I was thinking about it even for me being in college of like, you're in secular classes all day listening to secular professors. And it's like there, you can't just separate yourself so much to where it's like you can't be. in those settings. So that's why I'm talking about not blurring the lines because I took so many colleges in college that were like, you have to learn how to be in those settings and not let that dissuade you. So I think sometimes if you just fully exclude yourself from it, then it's like when you are put in the position to where it's like you do have to endure something like that, you don't know how to handle it in a healthy way. So yeah. It's good, babe. So good. All right, shall we move

on? Okay, this is a question that we get asked a lot. And it's, is it true that attraction grows over time? Because a lot of people call in and they're like, okay, there's this guy or there's this girl and they have so many qualities that I like, but I'm not like physically attracted. And it's like, is that a deal breaker or can that grow? And it's a tough spot for some people to be. And anybody has some advice on that? That's so tough. I think. that's real idea to say that's tough I was like do I think Wilta's hot today as I did when I first

I'm not gonna lie I mean I'm not saying that I didn't I find very I found you very attractive whenever we were just friends and I think from that instance of me still just like baseline yeah I find you attractive

but as our relationship grew it was finding, it was seeing more and more ways of like, holy cow, like she's very, like, it more ways. Attraction did grow. Attraction. Attraction. Attraction. Attraction.

A traction did grow. Attraction did grow as our relationship was progressing. But I don't think there was a point in time for me where it's like, it was like, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But like put yourself in in the person's shoes that's asking this. Yeah. they aren't thinking that their connection is attractive or they're not.

Yeah. I think, okay, that is hard because I do feel like that would be a really tough position. It'd be like, man, I really do like some of the qualities. I'm just,

like, not attracted. Yeah. But I do think attraction can grow. And I think it's the same way as, like, your taste buds change. I actually pray this when I pray for our girls and, like,

their futures and, like, who they're going to marry one day. I'm like, Lord, I pray that they would be attracted to the things of you and unattracted to the things that are not of you. Like, that's a prayer. I pray for them. Because I think about myself in high school and you start to become attracted to the things that aren't good for you instead of attracted to the things that are. I think for you, like, this is kind of a funny thing to say. But like, you had a type before me and I wasn't really that type.

But you were very attracted to me. And so I think that proves like there is an attraction for the things. that are not good for you, and there's an attraction to the things that are good for you. So I think you should pray, like, Lord, give me an attraction to the things that are of you. And if this is a person that I could potentially spend the rest of my life with, like, help me to become physically attracted. And I think that the Lord can enlighten your eyes to be attracted to the things that maybe you didn't see before or you might see them in a new light.

And so I actually do think that can grow. I think prayer can come with that. I also think your relationship, like, if they're a friend, I've heard people say this. Actually, like, I've, some of my very close friends who are married now, I remember when they were, before they even dated, and they just were like, I just don't, I can never see myself kissing them. Like, they're just like my friend. Well, of course, because you've never seen them as a girlfriend or a boyfriend.

So, like, go on a date and then see if you can see that. And now they're married. So, yeah, maybe you've never, like, given that space yet, like, actually go on a date. like change the setting if you've only seen them as a friend change the setting to be a little romantic. If it's like, nope, that did not work, then you know. And if it's like, oh, our attraction grew, then like, step in. So I don't think it's like dooms day. I think you have a chance.

Yeah. I don't think it's time to, like, call it off. Yeah. Like just keep pursuing if it's your person, then, like, it will grow, I think. Yeah. And it's so true that, just judy is fleeting. You know, we all know that. Yeah.

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you like, you know, the chase kind of thing in a way. Then as you meet a guy who's maybe you don't find him as attractive, but he actually pursues you. He opens your door for you. He, you see him be protective in situations where the other guy you were with kind of just shuts down. And that's what you, that's what forms the attraction. But yeah, I do think the physical attraction grows over time to where you put yourself in the situation with someone that, you, you see more of their character outside of just the friendship side of things. And I see, yeah, I think you see the way that they treat you and love you and defend you and protect your thing.

That's where the attraction grows. But you'll never know that if you don't put yourself in those situations. True. That's great. Word. Word. Okay. On this note, how do you know if it's a red flag or a deal breaker?

I want to answer this one. Okay, hot take. Okay. He said, I'm ready. All right. It is a red flag or a deal breaker. I don't know what you're about to say, but I know you can be ready for this. I'll say, if the person is untrustworthy, it is a red flag and it's a deal breaker.

To where it's if you're constantly having to wonder what they're thinking, where they're at, what they're doing, if there's no accountability for any sort of friends, I think it's a red flag. And my point with that is when we're dating, you're in a different place, I'm in a different place. if if if if if I tell you one thing and then you find out I'm doing another thing and that repeatedly happens again then there's no trust so I think the biggest red flag is if you find you can't trust a person in the dating process you'll never trust them in the married process and if you convince yourself that you're just going to form all this trust whenever you get married it's not true so I think for me the biggest that's just the biggest red flag is if there's breaches of trust repeatedly no accountability

no humility, it's a red flag. That's good. I think that's the deal breaker. It's like, if you can't trust the person. Yeah. So.

I think too, like confusion. Like someone who's just, you know, you're never sure if they're going to text to you. It's just like they're playing with your emotions. Like, you have to guard your heart.

Your heart is the well-spring of your life. Like, protect your heart. Like, stand up for your heart. Stand up for yourself. I think so many girls and guys just, you know,

it's like oh that's just how dating is these days you know it's like that's how people are going to be that's not how everybody's going to be that's not how your person has to be so i'm not saying like break up without having a conversation like you could maybe have a conversation but that's not respected and if your heart's not respected deal breaker because that person has got to come in and guard your heart as well yeah i think too many people would just let people just stomp all over their heart that's the most protected that's the most like treasured place for you it's where everything comes from. Yeah.

So I think that's a deal breaker that I don't think people think is a deal breaker. I mean, people are too okay with that. It's not okay. It's rude. That's good. Do you have any red flags? You're wearing green, so we don't want to talk about green flags. Okay.

We can tell you about some green flags. And a red cup. What are your red flags? Red flags? I would say if you're not like, well, I don't know. It's hard to answer. like now with a husband and like trying to go back to dating but i think if you're not like thinking of your other person i feel like that's a red flag because you just you want that in a husband you want

that and a partner you want them to consider you just like they do the lord hopefully like i think that's probably the the top one that comes to my head for sure it's good i don't know Oh gosh I feel like we hit them good Yeah we hit it We hit the big ones Yeah Okay

Christian laid the hammer Let Christian just said Let me tell you Don't be a liar and don't be manipulative Let me tell y'all something Those are definitely big red flags Okay This is kind of a life update

And makes him with a question Bob you got a new job I got a new job What? I got a new job Um, you said that was so funny. Sorry. Uh, yeah.

So I am a part of team, but commander. Let's go. Um, I am working in the media space, the creative space, social media, other things like that. And just, yeah, that's pretty much it. You got your first rude comment today. I got my first negative comment on the TikTok I made. on the Buck Commander TikTok. So if you're,

if you ever want to check them out on TikTok or Instagram, I made my first video. And I got the word corny. I woke up this morning. We were late to taking the kids to school. Open Instagram, I was like, you know, barely awake. Top comment was this dude is so blank three letters.

You can fill in the blank. First thing I woke up to this morning. And guess what? my day was going great and it was still going great didn't affect me at all that's great I have to circle back because a lot of people comment on it as it was so sweet when you were like And the word it rhymes with a ray

We got it, thank you We got it We got it I didn't know where you were going People were calming that day that you were like Has anybody actually ended up having a worst day After Sadie says I hope you're having a great day

But for usual, it's so much better. So many, like, so many people thought that was so funny that you said that. And they were like, Christian, yes, that's so real. So thank you for serving the real stuff, Christian. Yeah, you're welcome. That just made me laugh. Yeah, I woke up this morning. I was like, oh, no, I, there was like one comment and like maybe four new followers,

which, you know, it's not the best when you wake up in the morning, but it's okay. And I was like, one comment, which, that goes into our next question. I know. That was why I was throwing that little nugget in there. That's what I was doing, too. We're in the same page. We're a team. Here you think.

We're teasing each other, and it's just kind of exing it out. So we need to do opposing teases, not simultaneous teases. Okay, I'll throw this one to you again. Catch it. Well, that kind of segments into our next question. Can Christians care about going viral slash gaining followers? You know what's funny, too when I first read this, I thought it was, does Christian care. Like, I thought they were talking about you. Does Christian care? Like, does Christian

tend to care about that? And I was like, yeah, he actually, let's talk about it. But this is good for all of us because y'all are so good at TikTok, social media. That's like what you guys do. And now, Will, you're doing it for Buck Commander. So, like, you're growing in that a lot. Christian, you've been, like, doing such a good job with your social media as well. So this is good for us to talk about. What do y'all think? Another hot topic for me to talk about. But I will let Abby start. I'll say it's good to care. I think not caring is a little weird.

But I think the question you have to ask yourself when you're like, maybe you're creating content or you're just being yourself or maybe you're just posting like your life for your people is who's getting the glory for this. And how important is it? like if if God doesn't give me these followers or if these people don't follow me, then like am I still okay? Like is it affecting my personality? Is it affecting like who I think I am who God says I am? I think that's the difference between like being healthy and caring about gaining followers or trying to go viral or being on social media.

It's good. It's really good. I'll take a, uh, I'll take a snippet of one of Ella worship songs. It's called followers. I don't care if it costs me followers. Exactly. You're the way that I'm walking.

You're the way that I'm talking. Yeah, I don't care if it costs me followers as long as I'm following you. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's one of the realest ways you can be like as an influencer. and seeing like how critical a lot of people can be in posting just the the realness of your life. And I think for some reason, I mean, I feel like a lot of people can be critical on Christians and living and having certain lifestyles. And yeah, I just, I feel like you never have to chase the approval of the people that

are always liking and commenting and having something to say about what you're sharing in your life, just because, I mean, Jesus already gives you that approval every single day. And, you know, I feel like that's my, that's my take. It's good. Okay, if you are a pumpkin spice person, this is such a fun one for fall. Sava just launched their pumpkin spice protein. Hallelujah. It gives you all the cozy fall flavors.

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Like, if you're honoring the Lord in what you're posting, I believe he'll grow that. And like, if you're following the Lord, then other people will naturally follow you. Like, I think as long as your source, your, your approval that you're seeking is the Lord's approval, then I think that's the most important thing. I agree. I think you should totally care about your content. You should care about what you're putting out there. Yeah.

But you shouldn't put way into how it performs. forms always because to me that's that's not even like it's like that's not the part of your job yeah like that is like either the lord's going to send it out or the algorithm's going to send it out or it's not all i can be in control of is the content i put out and then at the end of the day it be like proud of what i put out and i think like back in the day there was such a thing where it was like oh if it didn't get enough likes like delete it or whatever and now it's like no just let it be like let it live because also just like study content and over time, you start to gain people's trust.

And when people go look at your page and you might have the one viral theme, but then they're going to keep scrolling, like, do they put other stuff out? So like, what did they post when no one was watching, you know? And that's what kind of like builds your following as a person instead of just like, oh, I just went viral. Or it's like, no, I actually have like grown a platform that's sustainable. But I always go back to Psalms 127 unless the Lord builds the house, the labor is labor in vain. So it's like, God has to build the house.

and you can just do the best that you can do, show up, work for the Lord, as if you're working for the Lord, not for man. So I'm doing this for the Lord because God put this in me to do, but I'm not doing this for the approval of man. And I think, too, like you have to realize, you know, people make all these big statements.

Like, you'll be like, you know, you see influencers like, oh, I'm going to lose so many followers for those or I lost some of followers. And like, I never make those posts, but I lose so many followers all the time. And then I gain so many followers, you know? And I wish people could see, like, every month when my Instagram gives me the report.

And it's like, you lost 25,000 followers. Oh, my gosh. No, literally, like, I'll lose, like, $25,000 a month. And then I'll gain, like, 30,000. And it's crazy. But it's like, I don't put, I can't sit there and be like, well, why did 25,000 people unfollow me? I have no idea.

But out of however many people, 25,000 people, maybe with some accounts where, like, getting deleted on a Sierra, maybe some people were like, I don't know why I followed her anymore. I followed her 10 years ago. I don't watch the show anymore. I don't this.

It's not personal. And I think that like, speaking of my book, it's not personal. Thank you. But like sometimes we put too much weight on that. And I think if you start to like work for the approval of man, it will drive you crazy and it will drive you to become somebody that you're not. You were never meant to be. When I was on Dance with Stars, it was like the best example of the fact that people

are fickle. Like week one on Dancing with the Stars, I was like so well loved by the audience because I think I was like a surprise to the audience. audience. People didn't really know who I was. I was just like the Duck Dynasty kid and I didn't have dance experience. So everyone was like, she's amazing and like she's this light in the world and she's doing so good. And then week two, I did this dance that like people did not like as much, especially the Christian community. And then I was like she's terrible. Like she's, you know, it was like the worst criticism. I got low scores. Like it was just like so bad. And then week three,

I was like so embarrassed and like how do you even go back into like a live TV show if you got so much hate the week before and then everybody love me again. It was like better scores love from the world. It was just a really good picture of like how fickle people are. So they will love you one minute, they can turn on you the next. I feel like even

just this summer we experienced that. I was even talking to my counselor to be vulnerable here and I was like I feel like I felt when I was on days with stars because it was like we went through this crazy thing with Kit and we had like so much love coming towards us and then like during that time

a podcast thing was posted of me, this clip, and it ended up getting like so much hate from the church. And it was like all these pastors making these reels about me. And it was like so hard emotionally because I'm like on one hand, like we're going through something like really hard and getting so much love and appreciation. On the other hand, I'm like getting so much hate. And I just remind myself like, okay, this platform is not where like I go to listen to like approval or like to go and get advice or like I got to like go talk to my people I need to go see like what my friends think what my mentors think like I need to go sit in church and just like be with the

body of Christ and when I stopped like you know being online just like put my like was like planning where my feet are I felt like I was just so much more grounded. It's just a good reminder like if you are trying to grow a platform or you have a platform like these are things that are a struggle you do have to wrestle with. Like, it's not just, it's easy to be like, oh, yeah, I don't care. But you do care. And there's aspects to it that you should care.

For sure. And there are aspects to it that you have to lay down. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I'll start by saying the videos that I've made trying to go viral have flopped and the videos that I never thought would do well

are the ones that ended up going viral. To the point to where it's, you know, you can only manipulate your content so much. And I think the thing that's, that bothers me, especially about Christians trying to go viral and getting influences to where when you do have that moment of going viral and then you just try to recreate it, then I think there's habits to it of where you lose yourself in the process of trying to attain it. So whether you're the person that, you know, you spoke out against something politically and then

people loved it. Well, now all your content is just riddled with you posting political stuff and being more divisive because people like it. and that's the thing. It's like people do love that division. And I think sometimes people try to feed that. And like what you said, I had a moment two weeks ago where I posted all, I mean, when I said awful, it was like, so I deleted it. And then I was like, man, I shouldn't have deleted that. But it was because I did, I did care that it didn't do as well as I thought I was going to. So maybe I'll repost again in a couple weeks and see if it does, see if it does well. And I shouldn't have done that because I did want it to, to, you know, to, to, to, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, to, to, to, to, to. do well. And not that there's always wrong with, you know, with wanting things to perform well and to get the reach out and those kind of things, but I do think that it can become crippling to where you do manipulate your content towards like, this is going to do well. And at the end of

the day, like Sadda said, you're at the hands of either an algorithm or of God sending it out to people. And I think the moment you think you have the algorithm figured out and you try to teeter to that, you end up becoming miserable because it doesn't work out. And two, you just spin your wheels trying to recreate what happened the first time. And I think it's an unhealthy state to film content and always having your mind, I'm going to do this to go viral. Not that going viral is a bad thing, but I think it's when you change who you are to fit that mold to what people want. I think that's a dangerous spot to be in. Yeah, you don't want to build a platform on a version of yourself that's not authentic to who you really are just because people like that version of yourself.

Then you're going to be chasing something. that's not you. And like at the end of the day, you know, you're putting out something that's like a representation of you. So when people meet you, like they're meeting you, not the version of you, you put online. So there's just not longevity in that. So I think that's just important to keep in your mind.

But it's really a conversation. And it really is, it really is a tough one. Well, how it starts is I can be a pretty confrontational person. So if I'm like, I want to go build a platform on, like, like, like, something like these hot topics like what's a red flag can christian listen to secular music it's like if i if i think like i'm the one that's going to go speak into this thing good motive but then when it becomes i'm going to this is going to become who i am and i realize that people like it when i say the hot thing then you just end up like that becomes who you are and i think that can become a dangerous thing

to when it's like you only like at that point you're only doing it to go viral you're only doing it to go viral and I think that just becomes a dangerous spot so that's true that's just my personal opinion putting an accent to lighten the blow this is my personal opinion have you all seen those videos and it's like an accent to make things a lot of serious it's so real we all do it this family is on the brink of civil war mobland the hit original series is now streaming on paramount plus we are the heraldans don't know than it And Google us. From the underworld of Guy Ritchie.

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Some people, this is a really big topic. In fact, it's such a big topic. We have been asked this question so many times through voicemail that we want to cover it. And it's going to be interesting to cover it, Will. Abby before having kids because sometimes we have an idea of what we're going to do before kids and it changes when we have kids, which I feel like Christian and I have experienced this. So the question that you've all been dying for us to answer. Drum roll, please.

Santa Claus! Oh, ho! Santa! Merry Christmas! Oh my gosh! That was epic. Will you tell your kids about Santa? This is such a hot topic, y'all.

And, you know, the parent in Sturm culture, it is a hot one. So I would love to hear your thoughts. Free kids, what you think you're going to do around the topic of Santa Claus, and then we'll share ours. We've talked about it a little bit, but not a lot. Obviously, because we don't have kids yet. But I think right now what I'm leaning towards is to tell them about Santa. Also, I want to say this does also completely depend on their personalities. Like, it's true.

If they are very susceptible to lies, get very hurt when their total lie or a fib or something that is lighter, it won't hurt them. But like, if they're very affected by that, I would say this will be probably pretty different. But I think the main reason for Christmas is Jesus. I think having that as our first priority is like our main goal. But then also I can't imagine our kids' lives. like growing up, I can't imagine my life growing up without like the magic of Christmas and like the joy that comes from like giving and receiving gifts and Santa. It's just, I just can't imagine like life without that.

So I'd say we probably will introduce Santa to our kids depending on their personalities. It's good. And have Jesus as like the main obviously reason for the season. Yeah. It's great. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree.

I think it was interesting growing up, believing in Santa and then coming to the realization that he was not, in fact, real. Which was a bomb dropped on me by Sadie and Bella. It was actually me who told him. It was Sadie and Bella dropped that bomb. And it's so sad because I was really excited to tell you and did not go over. age. Do you remember? I think chances

in like middle school. Dude. It was time. It was time. It was time. It was time. It's me and Belle Lydden. They both knew.

Yeah. But like, I want to say it was like eight, nine, 10. I don't know. I'm not sure.

But I remember it was heartbreaking. But then I very quickly got over it. Yeah. But I think, I don't know. I just, I think there's always going to be

the, the one side of people saying, no, we're not going to share. That moment, we're not going to say, oh, there's Santa with Christmas. Because then once they break the news of, oh, Santa's not real, well, then they're going to be like, is Jesus? Is God? Is God real? But I feel like for me, I never thought of it that way.

But like growing up in a Christian household, I think our parents did a really good job of the balance of things that we celebrated on the other side of just like holidays and stuff like that. But when it came down to it of the real reason of most of the things that were happening in the world, that it's all because of the Lord. And it's all because of Jesus and for what he did on earth. And I'm thankful that they taught us that. And we still know that God is very real. and he is the reason for all the seasons.

That's good. That's good. I think our family is a good family to ask this question too because between our siblings, we actually all do it differently. Some people have told their kids, like, you know, it's not real, it's mommy and daddy, like that kind of thing. And then others have, like, kind of been really excited about it

and all the different things. And so we am, this is, by the way, like almost every topic. And parenting, that's a hot topic in the world. Between our siblings, we've parenting. different, which I think is really sweet because we all love each other so much and we agree on the main things. And then we do certain aspects of life a little differently and we respect each other for that. So I don't think there's like a right and a wrong way. Like I don't think you're wrong if you do it and you're like wrong if you don't do it, whatever it is. But Christian

and I, we can share. But it's so. I do think if you're wrong if you constantly cast judgment on the other person. So I will say. Yeah. We're not like wrong if you do sin or not. But I'm saying like obviously you can do it the wrong way if you're judgmental and all that kind of stuff. But I think like for us, we, I went in being like, oh, for sure we're doing something like, I can't even imagine not having Santa Claus is so fun. It was some magic Christmas. And I was also the kid, by the way, that whenever I did find out, I was like, was God real? I actually did go there.

But then I was like very quickly, okay, yes, these are two different things. Like, okay, I understand. And so, yeah, I had that thought, but that didn't, like, I didn't dwell on it. It didn't change me. Like, it was good. And I was the one that told you. I was the one that told our cousin, Allie. I would always get the permission from the parents to tell all of our little siblings and cousins.

Allie was the funniest. She was like, what? Mother Nature, Father, Time. I was like, no. Oh, from the Santa Claus movies. Santa Claus movies. Oh, man. Which is crazy because the Santa Claus movies are my favorite Christmas movies of all time.

Especially the second one. Same. And I use an analogy from Santa Claus in my book. It's not personal. It's on pre-sell right now. You can go buy anywhere books sold. But not what we're talking about. But no, actually, so I would just thought like for sure.

And we do love Santa Claus. In fact, you can tell me about your new tattoo here in a second. We're also an elf on the shelf. Oh, we're on the shelf. Oh, we're a heart where we love it. I go all out. And I love it. We have elf on the shelf.

He stays. We have elf on the shelf, and we also have Snoop on the stoop. We have a snoop dog They stay in one place What was our else name again? Wait Why am I forgetting I can't remember

Ours Elfred right Our friend That was ours That was our family Chippy Collins Chippy Collins Chippy Collins

Because that's actually from the movie Chippy is from the elf movie And Collins is their best friend So they named him Chippy Gollens And we go all out It's the elf movie on Netflix. It's like the elf on the shelf movie. Oh, the elf.

Oh, okay. And they love it. So Chippy Collins? We go all out. But I will say we are very big on like, this is the magic of Christmas. But like, God and Jesus are the reason for Christmas why we celebrate. This is just the Christmas fun. It's just the byproduct.

It's the fun. It's the magic. But like one day Honey was crying because she was scared of Santa Claus coming. And I was like, it's just pretend. It's just fun. And like, I told her that. That's good. And she never was like, he's not real.

She was just like, okay. And then the next year, she was bought it in again. It's like, let's ride later. It's just Santa Claus. Let's do Chippy Collins. Let's do the whole thing. So I always made it light. Like, it's just fine.

It's just pretend. Just like I would, just like I tell her. Like when we were at Disney World and we were on the Little Mermaid ride, she's so scared at Ursula. I'm like, it's just pretend. It's just the magic. It's just the fun. So I use Disney kind of as a correlation to Santa because I'm always like, it's like,

it's magic. It's fun, but it's not really real. Like you're not going to meet. Elsa in real life. And then she was like, but we did it. Disney World. And I was like, you're right. Pretend Elsa.

So it gets kind of hairy there because then she's like, wait, is she real? Is she not real? But all that to say, we keep it light. We keep it fun. It's all just fun. But Honey wrote a letter to Santa Claus last year. It was the sweetest thing ever. We put it in the mailbox, went to the North Pole, the whole thing.

And Christian just got Honey's name that she wrote on her letter to Santa Claus tattooed on him. Sweet. That was her signature to Santa. She's just the innocence of childhood. That's so sweet. So we think Christmas is so fun. We think Santa Claus is fun. We think Chippy Collins is the greatest.

I remember writing a letter to Santa and getting it back very quickly. Mysteriously quickly from the Northville. Now too, if it's like if someone tells honey in a situation and she comes up to us, we're not going to be like, you have to believe this. Like this is true. You know, I think there's like, I think there's definitely aspects of it that, like, we're not going to force them to believe this thing. No, we just keep it fine. I literally told her last year it was pretend.

I remember after learning that Santa was not real, and then it was like everybody else was, well, not, like, all the other holiday beings. I was like, well, over time, I was like, oh. So mom puts. the money under the pillow. I also can't wait to do that. And then I'm like, oh. It'd be so fun. Easter bunny.

And then the all that stuff. You know what's crazy? As a kid, I would like pull my teeth and put them under my pillow. Never tell my parents. So they just like noticed, I guess, and always had money under my pillow. Or there was. You would just pull your teeth and then just, no, not like. Not like you just yank your teeth out.

She just re-entered? No, I would lose teeth. She just... No. No, but or it would be like, I'd do that and my parents would like come in. I'd be like, there's no money under my pillow. And they'd like make me go brush my teeth and there'd be money on the pillow and the tooth would write a letter about how she forgot or how she was like running late or something.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. See, that's parent magic right there. I just, I can't wait to do that. For our kids. I mean, that's just fun, this lighthearted. It's fun.

It's fun. Yeah, yeah. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. I would, like, go to be waking the girls up and be like, Chippy Collins didn't move last night.

I'd be like, oh, that's actually how I found out. Me, which I don't know if this is too much to share on the podcast, but like. It might be. Okay.

You don't know what Shippy cut my underwear? That was the funniest. Is that what you're talking about? No, I didn't know what you were going to say. Chippy cut my underwear. I got scared because we share pretty much everything. No.

Well, I'm saying Chippy cut my underwear, and then I walked out and just in my boxers in the morning and my booty was out. And the girl thought it was the funniest thing ever. And I'm like, that is peak. His acting was peak performance. That's peak childhood. I'm like, that's one of the best memories. He's like, is the device and Chippy is. And he turns around.

It's so funny. And Chippy had those scissors. See, it's the greatest Just imagine that you had chippy hanging from your And honey talked about that every day from money And she of course told the whole school She told the whole school Oh

Beauty Yeah Boots See something like That's the beauty of it I don't want to neglect my child It's the magic of Christmas It was

It's a hairy Christmas Sorry Oh my Oh my Go. I'll put your pants. It goes. All right.

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