WHOA That's Good Podcast - Remembering Our Papaw Phil Robertson | Sadie, John Luke, Reed & Cole

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Sadie is joined by John Luke and two of their cousins, Reed and Cole Robertson, as they remember and celebrate their Papaw, Phil Robertson, who passed on May 25, 2025. Papaw Phil loved God, he loved his wife, Mamaw Kay, he loved his family, and he loved hunting — and that's exactly how he lived, by example, for everyone he encountered throughout his life. Reed remembers a particular lesson that was learned the hard way, and John Luke recalls his two hunting outings with Papaw Phil. Sadie remembers childhood days spent at the original Duck Commander and how the kids all took part. Phil Robertson was truly a legend. He lived by example and was a man of simple faith — and we can ALL learn a lot from his life and legacy!  https://helixsleep.com/sadie — Get 20% off sitewide today! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order. https://drinklmnt.com/whoa — Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We can see your feet. This is the one podcast you can see your feet actually. I'm glad you just wore socks. Yeah, I know. Sometimes I just don't wear socks. You can go straight pebble fill and be barefoot with weird toes. Yeah.

I'm starting to get a weird thing on my toes like pebble fills. They're starting to like curve weird ways. I've always been curved out like this. Yours have. And do you have the- I have weird toes too. I have toes that are like fingers

and then my pinky toe is like this long. That's my pinky toe It's like a appendage. It's like would be better if it I didn't have it Yeah, actually, you know, we actually were just watching the episode with you and I think it was Jonathan wash them Oh, yeah We watched that the other day too and y'all took your shoes off and I was like, I think read my head speed This is funny. we're talking about this. ["I'm On Your Now"]

All right, what's up, Woe That's Good fam? Y'all, today is gonna be such a special episode. I'm genuinely so excited for the conversation we're about to have because this is like childhood in action right here. We have my cousins Cole and Reed and my bro John Luke on the podcast. Reed and Cole are Jason and Missy's sons and we literally grew up together and like, you know, cousins grew up together, but we grew up like together. I feel like all of our childhood memories are so intertwined and so many fun stories.

And a lot of them were actually with Pebbleville Memoque down at their land. And so we wanted to do an episode honoring Pebbleville and his legacy and his life. And just for the grandpa that he was, we're gonna share all the good, amazing things about the man he was and some of the really funny things

about Pebbleville being your grandpa. So I can't wait to dive in but to start just in the nature of oh that's good I always ask what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given. I thought it'd be sweet if we all gave the best piece of advice either Pepple Phil gave you directly or that you just kind of learned from his life. So John Luke, you want to kick us off? Oh, wow. A lot of pressure. Yeah. I mean, there's so many things.

Like I could go into talk about advice about things he's shared about like life and the gospel and loving your family and those kind of like spiritual things. But the advice that he gave me that I think about most often is Whenever I was working for him one summer so I was like 14 and we were building duck blinds and like working out there and

you know, I'd be working on something and I'm like can get I'm kind of a perfectionist so I would be like Trying to make sure the board straight and make sure the screw is sure the screw's right. Trying to like do all the stuff. And he would always say, hey, good enough we're duckmine, let's move on. And I think about that a lot in the sense of like, sometimes you're working on something and you gotta like keep the most important thing the most important thing.

Like, it's just a duckmine. Like, don't spend all your time working on something that is not gonna matter in the end. Keep the big picture and just keep moving on. That's good, I like that. You know what's funny, I just thought about this because I haven't asked you a best piece of advice in a long time.

When you were first on the podcast, you remember when you said, if you have to eat a frog, eat it first thing in the morning? I think about that all the time actually. So sometimes those little one liners like, hey, it's just a dope vine, like keep going. Actually stick with you the most, you know? I love that.

All right, Cole, you got some good advice from our pebble field? Yeah, I think so. I was trying to think of like some one liners or different things like that. And there's so many that he had, So I was trying to think of some one-liners or different things like that, and there's so many that he had, but I think the biggest thing was just the way

that he led by example, the way he led his life. I mean, one of his one-liners was, let me show you how to do this. You know, you're getting food, there's a bunch of people in line, he just cuts right in front of you and says, let me show you how to do this. He'll show you how to do it. But I think to his larger life and just,

for me it's been so convicting when I look at my own life. I look at the life that he led and the amazing man that he was and then I look at my own life and I'm like, oh my goodness, I am so short of the man that he was. And then I look at my own life, I'm like, oh my goodness, like I am so short of the man that he was. But, you know, it's such a large burden that legacy can be that we carry on,

but what an amazing legacy that it is, I think, that we have the opportunity to walk in his footsteps. So, I think a lot of times he did not lead with his words. He led by just getting up and showing you how to do it. Yep. It's great. That's so true, actually. So true. And I feel that. I've thought about that a lot. Christian and I have both talked about that. Like, so much of what we're inspired by, by the way he lived and looking at our own life, being like, man, we don't do that, we don't live like that. Like, we're a little bit off from that.

And then it's so cool how much of how he lived that's really actually tied to the Bible. Like, he just laid it out there. What was the verse? It's like 1st Thessalonians, where it's like, it says, make it your ambition to live a quiet life. And then it talks about working with your hands and not depending on someone else.

And then it says, for then it will gain the respect of the outside world. And he quoted that and he lived like that, you know? And I'm like, okay, how do I start implementing more of that in my life? So it's so true, we've been having those same conversations. That's one of my favorite things that he is, Realtree did a video probably like six or seven years ago

and he's talking about that. He's quoting that verse and just the way he says it, he says, make it your ambition. And he says, make it your ambition like three or four times in a row. And to live a quiet life, he leans in, he goes, mind your own business. And to work with your hands so that you may not be

dependent on anyone. And there's not a human being on this planet, I think, that lived that more than him. And when we talk about advice, it's not so much of, hey, he sat you down and he said this, you know, he lived that way. And he was a man of few words when it was just you and him, most of the time. And so, but you did get these one-liners from him and then it was backed up by his actions. And so even stuff where I'll watch him on a video from before I was born or like the video

that Realtree did where he's, it's showing a day in the life of his work day essentially. And then he's preaching the gospel at the end of it. That backs up watching him and taking that in, it backs up those little one-liners that he said. And on a more humorous note, I guess, I just started dating Brighton. We'd been dating a couple years,

and we were in high school, you know, and it was me and him, and we were riding back from a duck hunt, and he said, he said, Reed, you having sex? And I said, no, sir. And he said, all right, well, you having sex? And I said, no sir. And he said, all right, well, you keep that thing in your pocket, it'll be all right.

You know? But it's like, hey, that's short, quick, to the point, makes a lot of sense, and I'll never forget it. You know? So real. So, I mean, he did have those. He had some one-liners. He had a lot of one-liners.

Some may live on, and some we hope do not resurface on the internet. He was very straight to the point. And it's so funny. I think about one time, um, this was so funny. It was like in the midst of the dance of the stars era, me and Derek came back for your Mary Kate's engagement and we met, okay, and Pell-O-Fell. We're going to cook him dinner, which that is like the thing. And that is something I just love to do whenever I, you know, there's been so many different emotions this week and some laughing, some crying. And I think a lot of the tears come from like,

oh, I'm gonna just miss that, you know, like that we would always bring our guests down to his house because they, that was the place to have dinner. It's like, where's the best place to have dinner in town? Momoke and Pellafield's house. So we brought Derek down there and they were like, you should go show Pellafield the dance y'all been working on. And I was like, okay. And he was intimidating, okay?

He was not like the grandpa. Okay, he kind of changed with the younger generation. Like they all sat in his lap. We would never. No. I would never even consider that as an option. And so I was like, okay. So I walk over to him, I'm like,

hey, Papa Phil, do you wanna see me and Derek's dance we've been working on this week? He said, nope. I said, okay. And he wasn't kidding. I was like, okay. And then he goes, I saw it on the TV. And I was like, oh, you did.

So he was like, actually watching. He said, yes, it was strangely cute. Like that was a compliment. So he did have this funny way of saying stuff and he's very honest. He did not care to see our practice run and that was totally fine. But the thing that for me, like y'all have said,

he wasn't necessarily a man of a lot of words. He wasn't sitting you down and just always saying, hey, here's all the advice. But he lived it so loud and so largely. And one of the things I've been thinking on is in that verse is how it says you will gain the respect of the outside world. And it's such a contrast of living a quiet life because if you think you're going to

live a quiet life, you think the outside world isn't going to know about you or what you're doing. And yeah, this is a man who had no phone, had no computer, lived literally in the middle of nowhere. When we drive people down there, they're like, are you sure you're going the right way? Like, it's so out there. And yet, to see this week, just the outpouring of love and impact that man made on people's lives

with the gospel, like literally millions of people, it's just amazing. He's like such a public figure who lives such a private life. You don't see that much, you know? And when I was talking to him, one of our last good conversations we had was back in December at their house. And I was telling him about Passion Conference coming up

and what I'm preaching on. And he was just loving like the conversation. But I noticed all of his references to ministry that he brought up was never on a stage. It was always someone at his house, someone down at the river he was baptizing, someone who sat on that couch by his chair. And I was like, man, that is like the truest form

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That's drinkagone.com slash woe That has been interesting seeing seeing the response from people and I mean Basically every news outlet has posted an article or done, you know a bit on it at night and seeing it all over social media and everything. First off, just interesting to think about, if he was still alive, he would not know any of that. He would not know. He didn't even really have a concept of social media or what it is, and the total outpouring of response,

he wouldn't have even seen it or even really cared about it. You know, like. If you told him, he'd be like. Okay, yeah. Even the political stuff, he never cared until later in life, you know, he started to really care. But before, I would say, I mean, I would say before the show, I mean, when he had the big, they had the big box TV,

you know, with the big speakers on the bottom, like really old school. And I don't know what type of screen they used to be or anything like that, but the weather channel was burned in to the bottom corner of the screen. So you would change the channel and it still had the weather channel emblem there.

You know, it's like, he literally just watched the weather channel. That was the only connection to the outside world. Right. I'm sure it's the outside world. It was the weather channel, you know, cause he had to know the weather channel, that was the only connection to the outside world. Right. I'm sure it's the outside world. It was the weather channel, you know, cause he had to know the weather. Yeah. And so, and even in, um, even in, uh, when he started to decline and, and, um, I

was down in, in, um, January down here, duck hunting and he just, you know, he didn't want to say much, but he just, he wanted to know where we went, what we saw, what the weather was like, you know, he just, he wanted to know the stories and he just, that's just, that's what he cared about. You know? That's what he loved. My favorite thing that was ever said about him was when Aunt Jan told,

who baptized him again? Bill Smith. Bill Smith. Told Bill Smith, if you convert Phil, he'll convert thousands. And that was 60 years ago. It just, it really is incredible to see just how many people, I mean,

we've all gotten hundreds and hundreds of texts over this week and it's just, everyone is texting me and they say, so sorry for your loss, but he's in heaven, heaven got a titan this week, is what I've gotten a lot. And everyone's sharing their own personal stories of how, even if they never met him,

how he impacted their life and their faith and how they grew closer to Jesus and grew in their faith through by just watching him. And at the end of the day, He cared about preaching the gospel, but He didn't care that they were watching Him. He didn't care about any of that. He's gonna do it no matter who was listening. That's right. It's so true. And that kind of the same thing, it hearing all the stories and especially seeing it in the news, what I think is so awesome is almost every newscaster who talks about it, who's met Phil, talk

about eating a meal or riding around side-by-side or going hunting. They'll say like, oh he was an awesome guy, like I just remember going down there and we had shrimp in his house and he was like saying all this or they'll say we did this podcast, but then we went out, you know on the boat and drove around and Almost none of them say anything about hearing him speak. It's all about Being in his house. Yeah their relationship it's so cool to because thinking about how I would have never went and snuggled up to Pebbleville like Bella and Mia and Merritt and

Lily and all of them did. Jace was in there the other day when we were kind of all up there visiting with Memo K and sitting with Pebble Hill. And I was sitting there and I was just holding his hand for a long time. And your dad is so funny. He said, man, I would have never thought I would

see some of you grandkids holding Pebble off of his hand. He said, quality time must be overrated because he didn't spend much time with y'all and you're still holding his hand. And I was like, you know what's so funny is like, in some sense it is funny because we didn't have that relationship always where I would have held

his hand or went and gave him a big hug. But I never questioned his love for me. I never questioned his love for our family. I never questioned his, and I think that was it. He was so respectable because you knew his priorities. He loved God. He loved them okay. Loves our family, loves the duck hunt.

And like, that's what he did. And you didn't take offense. Like you didn't feel like he wasn't there for you. You didn't feel like he wasn't loving to you, even though that wasn't the way he expressed his love. And so it didn't feel weird to hold his hand and sit with him and talk to him. There at the end, even though that was something I had never done before, because my love for him and respect for him was so great.

And I think that's what's cool when you think about other people who have felt so touched by him, who are like, I don't have that relationship with him. But man, I've been so impacted, man, I have so much respect. And in some ways I feel like that. Like I was telling y'all before this, I mentioned to dad and mom was like, Oh, just like my biggest regret is I never went duck hunting with him. And dad said, he didn't want you to. It's true. Not that he didn't love me, but that was his thing.

He wouldn't just invite anyone. So I do want to hear from y'all. What was hunting like with Pebble Phil? Okay, let me start because this is going to be the shortest. So I only went hunting with him twice, okay? And both times, the first time I went, this is what he said, he, I had all my stuff, I had my gun, and he sat down and he said, John Luke, you're what's called a limit extender. So you just, you sit there, you're gonna add to our limit, and you just watch and observe.

And then the second time, same thing. We got in the boat, he said, you just stay down there on the end there. And just, I would be in charge of getting the snacks together and stuff on the second dive. But that was it. Because he was so intense. Yeah, he was so intense.

Everyone was, in terms of hunting, I mean, you were dead weight until you proved yourself right a long time I really show up and carry your part in the hunting world and then you know You maybe would get a thumbs up But otherwise you're just dead weight that would be like the greatest thing ever if you got the thumbs or the approval as I've heard from Christian to even blow the Duck call because like Christians out there trying to hunt with all them and hunt with your dad and he's like taking on the serious approach

of like don't blow that duck call until you get better. And Christian's been actually like trying. Even if you can. No, there's what a lot of people don't realize and this is duck hunting in general. There is a hierarchy inside of the hunting group. So you've got usually the landowner is the leader, you know, so then, and then you've got the next best hunter and they sit on the corners and everyone else is

in the middle, you know, and they, you say, put your hands out like this. You don't shoot anywhere. Don't be waving your gun around, you know? So once you get through all that, you're like, okay, well, then you've got just sweat equity grunt guys and they're picking up the decoys and they're loading up all the gear and stuff like that. So the key is one line, make yourself useful. If you can do that, you're welcome to come.

Do that and don't kill anybody and you're fine. So I mean, it really was inspiring because I mean, I love to duck hunt, and I've probably hunted with him the most out of the grandkids, I guess. And, but, I mean, it took a long time to kind of earn that, what you're talking about, the thumbs up, you know, hey, good job, you know? I mean, it's not an easy thing to get into, you know,

with, in terms of our family and that group, you know. So, I mean, it's intimidating for sure. It's for real. Yeah. People always be like, you don't go duck hunting with them? Like when I would say I've never been duck hunting, it's not like for fun.

Like, I mean, it is fun, but it's not like just a hobby to them. They spend all year long. And that Benelli thing you were talking about, that was actually really cool for me to see and just some of the clips I've seen of like what he was actually doing out there. Cause y'all would work all summer out there, like you said, and cut boards and build the blinds and

kill how many snakes. I don't even know, but that always freaked me out. That would have made me tap out before I got out there anyways. Um, but yeah, it was a serious job. He taught me how to kill a snake. That's for sure. We were driving through and there's, there's a little levy and there's all these crawfish holes because we catch crawfish and stuff and, and, uh, well

that's where all the snakes like to get to. And so we're driving and I see when I'm like, there's, there's one. And we get out and he's like, all right, here you go. Hands me the 22. And I'm like, pow, nothing I miss. And I'm trying to get back on him. He said, let me show you how to do this. And he grabbed him and,

ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. And he's like, you empty your bullet son, that's it. You empty the clip. And it's like, okay. And he's like, all right, let's go find another one. It's just like, all right, cool, sweet, now I know. I was gonna say that earlier. He would say it all the time, he'd say like,

let me show you how to do this, or he'd say, I'm gonna show you this one time. And he'd say that, and you gotta be watching. But that goes to the teaching moment. It's like, he wants to teach you, and he expects you to pay attention and to listen. And that's like that respect there. He's like, I'm gonna show you this one time,

but he's gonna really show you, he's gonna make sure you're seeing all the process and you're gonna know what to do, and then he's going to then trust you to do it now. Well his personality made him a great teacher because he was all about shock factor. Like when he preached, when he spoke, it was all about shock factor.

And he liked that, you know? And so just like with killing the snake, he wants to make a point, you know? And so then it's like, with that compared to, we've got this little teaching moment, and then it's like this shock factor of like I'm like you know PTSD here just like what just happened it's like well I'll never forget that okay I know like you just empty it till it's dead and move on to the next one you know okay got it. That is so funny.

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And you can't hardly imagine sitting in Piafella's English class. Um, but you know, you can imagine learning how to kill a snake. And that's what he later, not later in life, but early on decided, this is the thing I'm going to go with and I'm going to be really good at it. And again, even just how good he was at what he did and how much dedication he put in made you did and how much dedication he put in made you respect him so much and want to learn. So speaking of shock factor, there are some things so shocking.

We will not repeat. But what are can y'all remember any times Peppel Field truly shocked you with what he said, whether to you on a stage or just some of those really funny things only Peppel Phil would do. There was this other guy in the church who, he was like, I mean, probably like 40 years old when we were kids and he was single and that didn't have anything to do with it.

Oh yeah, do you remember this one too? Anytime this guy would come up and Phil would pray for him or say anything about him He'd be like, you know, we'll call him Jim. You know Jim. He's a eunuch He's not a eunuch. He's just single Nothing about being single. If you got too old and you weren't married yet you were just immediately eunuch. You were the eunuch Look, I mean the guy that has worked with him for a long time, his name is Dan, everyone knows him.

Dan has always been single. And he has called him the eunuch, basically since the time he met him. He had absolutely no filter, that's for sure. Unfiltered. That's for sure. Him and Jay walked in and Memal K had this group that they would all come over and they would have a Bible study and they

would make muffins. And he walks in and him and Jay walk in together and they walk past the table of ladies and he looks down at a lady, awesome lady, looks over at Jay and right, I mean he's right here. He goes, Jay, Miss Kay's running with some ladies that are heavy. The whole room got silent, he said, and by heavy, I mean heavy. It is like, you can't blame him, you know, lady was a little overweight, you know,

it's not, some people just, most people, 99.999% of people never say a word, but he just said, hey, it's good for that she knows, you know? One thing about Momo K and Paula Phil is like, they laugh so much at themselves that other people laugh too when they make fun of her. There was no, people online get so caught up in all this stuff and people get mad about it,

but people thought it was funny. Like, part of it was he was so unapologetically himself. Again, you knew he loved you. Actually, yesterday, another guy who came in town from LA, he is, he's an artist and he looks like an artist. And he said, when Pellafill met him, he goes, you an artist? And like, it's the first thing Pellifil said, he's like, yes.

And he's like, you know, just went on. And he was like, at first I was like, is this offensive? He's like, no, I think he like sees that in me. And it was just funny because I don't know how he did it. It's kind of like dad does that too. I think you know, they love you. They laugh at themselves so much that people just laughed with them Yeah, cuz he could take it too and that was that was the thing like not a lot of people gave it to him

But he could take it but it it he would look you in the eye and he would just say who you are and you're like Yeah, that's it. Like he Looks at someone says oh heavy heavy, or he'd call me, he'd be like, oh string bean. He'd like say things like that. But it's like, there's no judgment. There's no like, it's just he's looking at you and he's like, yep, that's who you are. I'm with it, let's go eat.

You know? We always joke, we're like, does he know our name? Because he would call every grandkid by a description of them. I was little Caraway forever, because my middle name is Caraway, and then I was the preacher girl. And then Bella was cheetah girl forever,

because she loved cheetah girls. I think Bella remained cheetah girl. She called me Fabio for a little while. Fabio, because of your hair. I had like long hair, yeah. The other day, actually, Bella was sitting with him a week ago, and Bella said,

Pebble Phil said the most Pebble-filled thing he'd said to me in a long time. He grabbed my face and he said, you have a really pretty face. It's filled out. He said, it's filling out, but that's a good thing. And she was like, actually, something about it was very comforting because you're like,

that's him, he just would say things like that. He really looks at you and you know doesn't he doesn't care He's not making a judgment statement. It's just like just that's who I see you as and everyone were Referring to loved him so much and felt so loved by him One of the things I'm gonna talk about was our childhood growing up down there, because I have so many fun memories of all of us spending the night down there. A lot of memories scared we were going to wake him up. You remember the fear? Oh yeah. I was going to say earlier, I can count with three fingers,

the physical touch interactions I've had with Papafil. And one of them was me holding his hand a few days ago. And then. And all three were yesterday a few days ago. And then. And all three were yesterday, three days ago. And in January, when I came down and duck hunted, I gave him a hug and he kind of pushed me on the chest like that and he said, love, like that.

And I'm like, okay, I think he said, I love you just now. And then the first one was the last butt whooping I ever got because, well, actually that's not true. I got paddled in high school one time by a football coach but I remember you though getting spanked my pillow and me being like that's the most terrifying thing I could ever have. He had one rule that was it it was lawless down there. Completely lawless but he had one rule do not wake me up from my nap. And I came in there one time hollering and doing whatever

and he came out there and he said, all right, let's go. I remember like it was yesterday, just the anticipation. I was like, I don't even remember if it hurt or not, but I remember the anticipation of, because he laid me over the bed and then he walked to the closet to get a belt and came back.

Oh my gosh. And he whooped me and I'm like, okay, I will never. And, but everyone else learned from that too. I think- I don't think anyone else ever got so- I think Alex was before me. Alex got one before me. Yeah.

But that was, that was rough. I had one one time, but let me just say- From people I feel? Yeah. Really? They set us up for failure on the nap thing because it's a double wide the playroom is next to the bedroom walls are like just just paper wallpaper so like you were it was hard to not be loud or wake

them up you just had to be outside speaking of the Sharpie on paper that was such a thing down there. Any message you needed everyone to know, you just wrote Sharpie on paper. And I remember, this will be funny to people who know who Godwin is, but Godwin's daughter, do y'all remember Johanna? Oh yeah, she was our arch nemesis.

We love Johanna now, but she was our arch nemesis. And we wrote on the Sharpie on paper and put it on the playroom like grandkids only and we got in so much trouble for doing that. And then we ended up, I think that was around the time we ended up building our fort outside. Talking about lawless and reckless, we were like very young with hammer and nails.

And when we say fort, that was the most epic, I mean, in my mind, it was the most epic. I mean in my mind Yeah, the fort was cool, but the thing that was really dangerous was the booby traps we made Yeah, we were like dig holes and put nails in there like legitimately like this would like Kill something like definitely maim somebody and we were doing all that and then running through it. We definitely had that. One time he sent us out, it was John Luke and I. And we were, I think John Luke was,

I can't remember, we were like eight. We were eight years old. And he said, hey, y'all go down there and burn that trash. There's a can of diesel down there. And I was like, well, okay, well, we get down there. It's one of our main jobs. Oh yeah, like we were burning trash. What's like, he sent us down to get the diesel.

Well, there's 15 cans full of gas and diesel and all kinds of stuff. It's like, you picked the wrong one. John Luke and I are at least maimed forever. Right. And it's like, we were just like, well, let's see, you know, and I remember we tested it, you know, we were smart. We were smart. Yeah, we tested a little bit, you know, one of them, you know, it's like, OK,

that may not be good. He said it wasn't going to blow up if we use diesel. You know, it's like we're trying to figure it out. It's like we're eight years old. Yeah. And that was the time, too, that Lyle Sinky came down there and he was there and he said, Oh yeah, y'all y'all use diesel. Good job. He said, y'all want to see some really cool stuff.

And we're like, okay. So we go down to the river house where Lyle was living at the time. And he had this giant brush pile. Well, he dumped gas all over the whole thing and then drew a line all the way back to his front door and lit a match. And it was a giant mushroom cloud of just black smoke blowing up everywhere it's like it was it was flawless. The burning of the trash just to give y'all the mental image this was these like metal can trash cans and we were

like haul the trash in and like pile them up and then just dump the diesel in and then light it and run was the method there. And I will say this I still do that to this day on job sites and everything I just throw my stuff in the burn barrel light it up like think of Petball Field every time. Yeah use some good life lessons. Y'all sometimes summer just has that hectic energy. It has family vacations, weekend road trips, play dates, and pool days. With all the fun and chaos, staying hydrated kind of becomes a full-time job. But I got you, fam.

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And I have this vivid memory of us singing songs we should not have been singing at such a young age playing hide and go seek and we'd climb up on all those things and get into the boxes playing and see and we were singing and then we were singing big girls don't cry it was like this track at the time that we thought we were so cool and I remember Reed you would always like make up new words that would make everybody laugh and those were some core memes. The Hidens League was so dangerous thinking about it now. So dangerous. Like we would be, we'd turn the lights off and then the whole warehouse is fair game.

So it would be pitch black and we're climbing up the ladder, climbing up on the things. Yeah we're like, I mean, when he's up the feet on the air, hiding in boxes, he can't see anything. And too, it was like, you know, we played the version of hide and seek where there was a base. Yeah. You play hide and seek, and if you get found out, you got to run to base unless you're out, you know,

or if you get tagged, you're out. And I just, I remember like these just panicked, like jumping and running through boxes, and it's just pitch black, you know, and it's like these were racks I mean it was a big metal building and it was racks that were probably 20 feet tall Yeah but they would store all the products on and we would climb up to the very top and get in boxes and so we're like Climbing up trying to climb down. Oh, he's getting close and we're jumping off from one rack to the other and like

It's the only light is like from like underneath the doors and like the the big like garage door like the light there's just a stream of light on the ground what what do you all because for me when i think about eating down there because obviously i'm okay always made like the best food but also i think about honey buns like the snacks they had where pecan swirls. I still cannot go, I still do not go duck hunting without at least two honey buns in my blind bag. That's like nostalgia

or memory. It is. One thing that is so funny now like us having kids it's like you can't imagine them doing the things that we did down there but at the same time like that was some of our favorite memories from childhood. And I want them to be like that. The other day I was looking at Honey, I was like, oh my gosh, you need to be outside more,

you need to get dirty more. She's such a princess. I'm like, you need to go play hide and go seek in a warehouse and learn what life is really like. And so some of that, you really do wanna pass down, you wanna carry on just that, even just being a country kid from Louisiana and like building forts outside,

like I really wanna make sure I pass that down. I wanted to ask you like, what are some things that y'all see even in your dad? Because there's stuff I see in dad that's so much like football field. Obviously there's like the funny, not so good side, where we're like, okay, you could say I love you more. You know, you could hug us more, those things.

But like, there's also so many things that recently for me, my dad started making like mayhaw jelly. And that has been like the coolest, greatest thing, like carrying on that legacy. And he spent so much time, more recently than ever, I feel like since we started filming outside, like doing just projects around the land. And I know he's doing that because I think he learned that I mean I know he learned that from ProBot Phil and as his life is getting a little more busy

he's spending like more time in the woods so I appreciate that. What are some things that y'all have seen the legacy passed down to your dad and y'all? Yeah we were talking with him sort of about this the other night but I mean when we look at Phil and see how much He did not care at all about what everyone thought my dad Out of all the qualities Phil had I think my dad got that one where he doesn't care what people think you know Whatever they say about him. He does not care. That's probably the biggest thing

Which is a blessing for him There's so many things that they all just do the same, which I don't know about your dad, but like the coffee that my dad makes is the same nasty coffee that Phil always made, you know? And it's just, it is the most disgusting thing ever. I mean, they, you know, and I really like coffee and I like strong coffee and I'll drink it. But there's this hilarious story of, the last couple of years, some guys have, as Phil's kind of declined and gotten older and he couldn't, because he used to just work on that land.

I mean, his whole life, every day, all day long, just by himself, he managed all those acres and all that property. And so some guys have come and in exchange for being able to hunt, they help out around the property and you know they've got skill sets. One of them's a general contractor so he's helping build blinds and stuff like that. Well they were in the blind one time and Phil, he left his coffee cup and he said, who's got

some coffee down there? And one of the guys, he said, who's got some coffee down there? And one of the guys, he said, oh, I got some. And he said, that was just the one morning. He just kind of said it. And as he said it, he realized that that morning he didn't make coffee and he had stopped at the gas station and filled up his coffee mug. So he pours Phil a cup of coffee and he takes a sip

and just spits it out everywhere, dumps it out. He says, hey, don't you ever bring that crap in here again. He said, let me tell you how to do it. He said, you get you a $20 bun coffee maker. You put the filter in, you take Folgers Black Grounds and you fill it all the way up to the top and you let it roll. And he said, yeah, but if you fill it all the way up to the top and you let it roll and he said yeah but if you fill it all the way up to the top it overflows water

everywhere and it gets all over the counter and makes a huge mess and he goes hey you got you a woman don't you he's serious about that coffee but I mean I went off on a rabbit show there but that's actually I was actually going to ask you how he made his coffee Well that's actually exactly how my dad makes his coffee He was showing me how to do it, how he makes it And he was like you fill it up And then every couple minutes you turn it off Or it'll like overflow

And then sometimes it overflows and gets in there And I said, well why don't you just put less coffee You can't put less coffee It's not going to be strong enough It's got to to overflow in there. They gotta be some grinds. Yeah It is disgusting But I will say there that is a core memory for me of drinking coffee that makes the hair on the back of your neck Stand up and the duck blind, you know as the sun's coming up and hearing wings over your head, you know It's a spiritual experience for sure. That is cool.

That's actually where I got my start in coffee. Really? Yeah, so whenever, I was 15, 14, 15, and I was working for him in the summer. So I was staying down there, and we'd start before daylight. So we'd get up at like 4.30. He'd come in the room, he'd turn the light on,

he'd walk out, and I was like, when he turns the light on, it's like, you gotta get up. So he would go out and get the fuller and stuff ready, whatever we're gonna be doing that day. And my job was to make breakfast and make the coffee. So the coffee was in this, it was like an aluminum, it's called a percolator, and how it works is you put the coffee grounds in this aluminum filter and the water like bubbles up through it. Well, in his filter, he had taken a, like a fork

and stabbed the holes so that the holes of the filter were bigger, which meant the grounds would just like get in. So whenever I would make the coffee, there'd be just a thick layer of coffee at the bottom of grounds at the bottom. So when you would make the coffee, there would be just a thick layer of coffee at the bottom of grounds at the bottom. So when you would finish your cup, the whole bottom cup would just be filled with the grounds. That's what he liked.

And that's what he liked. And that's what I started drinking too at 15. Because it was like, that's what you do. It's all you got. That is so funny. Gosh, I love it. Y'all have to make me feel special one day. You will literally spit it out.

You can have the experience. You will gag before it even gets to your lips from the smell. I'm sure I will. Summer is Tim's ice latte season. It's also hike season, pool season, picnic season, and yeah, I'm down season. So drink it up with Tim's ice lattes now whipped for a smooth taste. Order yours on the Tim's app today at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. I love how you said it was like a spiritual experience in the blind and that was something

he always talked about, like being out in creation, the creator. I love how he started his prayers like to the creator of the cosmos. You know, you didn't hear many people talk like that, but he was so always surrounded by creation that he was so worshipful in that. I want to ask you all how he impacted y'all's faith, and I know that's a kind of a big question. I know he baptized you down at the river. What are some of those things that you all experienced with him in a spiritual realm that just really inspired y'all? Yeah for me, I mean

Just growing up hearing him talk about the gospel being in church seeing his like work outside was you know all so impactful and Baptized me at 14 and then Later on seeing him just like living his life really. I mean, I kind of, I shared this story the other day, but one of the last things that got to do with him in the hospital was a group from church came

and we sang a cappella and he at this point like couldn't really speak, but he was aware of what was going on. So we were all singing and we were acapella and he at this point like couldn't really speak but he was aware of what was going on so we were all singing and we were singing victory in Jesus and he was like you know you could tell he kind of understood and you know singing those words like well now I'm blanking on the words seeing those words like truly thinking like he believes with everything he has he has victory in Jesus he knows wholeheartedly like he believes with everything he has, he has victory in Jesus.

He knows wholeheartedly like he's coming to the end and he's gonna be in heaven soon. And being able to go in that, with that amount of confidence, like me at, you know, 29 years old, been a Christian my whole life, in that moment I was like, man, this is like real. Like, I get it. I see the faith. I see what faith can do. I see how God has worked in his life and I see his faith in that even like in the end where things like we would, from from our perspective things are going wrong

He's like no, this is all part of the plan Yeah, kind of bridging the gap with what he passed down to our dads that has gotten into us just his his How ferocious he was with preaching the gospel and mean, he was trying to baptize everybody. He never had a conversation with anyone that he wasn't trying to work the gospel in, or just straight up telling it to him, you know?

And I mean, we watched our parents our whole lives. I mean, they had people sitting in our living room growing up on the couch preaching the gospel and going and finding some water and baptizing them. And I mean, our whole lives like three nights a week forever. Um, you know, and they would, they would come in, they would sit down. My dad would preach him the gospel. Um, and he'd say, you need to go back and you need to read the book of John, and then you can come back and we'll have a Bible study.

And but you got to start there. So I was probably, I was 12 or 13, and I said, Dad, I want to be baptized. And it was a carbon copy of what I've seen him do. I've said this like so many times. I mean, I say this every time I speak, but it was just a carbon copy of what I'd seen him do hundreds of times before. Go back, read the book of John, and come back and talk to me. You know, and it just, it made me, it made me realize that now as I've gotten older and I live in Nashville and I have my own family and I'm involved in my own church and we lead a Bible study and I've got people coming in my house now. You know, it's just, I can hold onto that of, there is absolutely nothing that can waver me

from what I'm doing is right. You know, the thought of, okay, I've seen this done for literally generations. I know how to do this, you know? And I just think that's so valuable because that's something that, you know, you can't really, you can't just have a conversation with someone and teach them how to go preach the gospel.

I mean, you can, they can say the right words, but it's so much more than that. And it's just, it has inspired me so much to just be bold in my faith. And it's inspired me too in my study too, because I'm like, hey, I need to always be prepared to give an answer, you know? And so I'm studying more and I'm preparing

and my faith is growing like that. And it really is amazing to think about, you know, of just an example. It's great. Mm-hmm, it's so true. And it was always done in love. Yep. You know, like I think a lot of times,

we think of someone going out, you know, trying to convert as many people to Jesus as possible. There are a lot of different strategies people take and a lot of people will drive fear. But with, and Phil, he, you know, he's known to yell in a lesson, you know, from time to time. But whenever you're sitting with him, talking about Jesus, it's always with love.

It makes me think of Jesus's words when he says, and by this, you'll know that you're my disciples if you love one another. And we knew that Phil was Jesus's disciple because of the way that he loved everyone. Didn't matter who you were. I mean, the amount of famous people that came down to his house, because of the way that he loved everyone. Didn't matter who you were. I mean, the amount of famous people

that came down to his house, and he treated them the same as, you know, the homeless people that showed up too, just to hear from them. Was always done with love. And that's something, you know, that has definitely impacted me. And another thing is what you said, John,

like just about how confident he is. Like I think of the verse in 1 John 2, where he says, I write these things to you so that you may know you have eternal life. I look at the way Phil lived his life. I mean, there was not a doubt in his mind where he was going in that he had eternal life and where he stood before, you know, God Almighty.

And, you know, in my own life, I've struggled a lot with doubt and uncertainty in my own faith and lots of different things. I've got a degree in philosophy, so lots of questions have, I've wrestled with a lot of questions, I guess. So when I look at Phil and see the throughout his entire life from the time he was converted to the time he went to be in heaven he never wavered and always had such a strong confidence in his faith and who he was before God. It's great. It's so beautiful. It's so real like y'all. I think one of the things called I love you mentioned is that it was always done in love because I think sometimes people's perspective of Pebbleville from the outside who haven't leaned in and learned more about his life or

really listened to his sermons is that he's harsh or he's judgmental and he that really was not who he is in the heart of what he did. Like he always said, love God and love your neighbor. And he really did that. It did not matter who showed up at his house. He was going to treat them the same. And to him, the most loving thing he could do is to give them the gospel. Because he was the first to admit, I mean, to

have the humility to make, let a movie be made about like the worst parts of your story. To me that, I gained so much respect for him because they could have made a movie about a lot of other things about Pebble Hill and it would have been more of a highlight reel. But he let them share the hardest part of his story when he was really living in the depths of sin. And then you see his transformation with the gospel really did what baptism meant to him,

that he really did go from dead to life, that he was old to new. And then that set him on a trajectory he was on for the rest of his life. So to him, the most loving thing he could ever do is to give people the hope of Jesus. And that's what he did. It was so beautiful. And same for us. I'm so grateful that my parents like had so many

people in our home, uh, richest of the poorest, didn't matter who they were. And the Bible would often get out and they'd start studying. And a lot of times we'd go down to the pond or to two mama's pool. I've seen pictures of my dad baptizing people in hot tubs and like ice, in what's that pond, that like cow manure was everywhere and in the pond.

And they do that because that's what they saw their dad do. They believed it wholeheartedly. And like you said, I remember whenever I asked dad to baptize me and he told me to study more. And then we'd talk about it. Like it was so, it's so real. And it's the same thing for us now. Like that's why baptism is so important to me.

You know, when we started our conference and people are like, Oh, baptism's logistical nightmare. I'm like, I don't care. It's not about the logistic. We'll make the whole floor wet. We'll clean it up later. and people are like, oh, baptism's a logistical nightmare. I'm like, I don't care. It's not about the logistic. We'll make the whole floor wet. We'll clean it up later. Because this is going from dead to life.

This is our public moment. And we've just seen the importance of that passed down from Pepaw Phil. I'm so, so grateful for that. He is a legend. He will always be a legend. And I'm so grateful he was our grandpa. So grateful for the lessons we learned from him and the fun that we get to have as kids and

just want to say thank you all for in a you know hard week but also a sweet week for coming on and sharing some stories. This was great. I've been thinking about this but I really thought about this morning because I saw this article about it was talking about Phil and you know it was life and everything and talked about how he came to Christ at 28 and I was like 28 like I'm 29 and thinking about his legacy all Really all the videos we have everything we see it from him is from the last 10 years

Like he was baptized at 28. It took 20ish years for him to get to the point where he was when Duck Dynasty started, and then everything came up. And he was doing all the things in those 20 years prior. So it's like, for me thinking about, because I've thought that too, of like, oh, there's so much pressure with who

he was and who my dad is and who my uncles are, but I'm like, I'm only 28, like I'm just getting started here. It's a lifetime. Also thinking about Phil and how confident he was in the gospel is because of how bad he was. Like the blind movie going through his life, I remember when we were making The Blind and I was involved in some of the early writing processes and seeing the early scripts,

and one comment that kinda kept him up was, Phil is so bad, no one wants him to succeed. Like you had to actually make it look better than it was. It really was better. Even some of the early cuts of the blind everyone was like Kay should just leave him. No one wants him to get back together and that's the problem is like he's too bad to even be come back from this Kay should just leave. And that is the miracle of the gospel and the miracle of Christ. That he was the villain, he was the abuser, and through Jesus, he completely changed his life around to where now, and even as

a six-year-old grandfather, he's involved in our life and has taught us stuff that would have never happened if that change wouldn't have happened at 28. Even in that video of him when he was way younger, you know, and he's trying to baptize those two guys, you know, kept calling them two fellers. Yeah. And he's like, he preaches the gospel and he's like, I mean, that's good news. He's looking at me, he's like, I mean, at the very least, that's good news for me.