WHOA That's Good Podcast - The Biggest Body Image Mistake You Can Make | Sadie Robertson Huff | Sisters & Friends

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

Sadie, her mom, Korie Robertson, and her sister Bella Mayo offer rock solid advice on defeating an unhealthy body image. Sadie opens up about her personal body image struggles and the tools she uses to overcome them. They discuss whether having a puppy really prepares you for a baby, the value of pre-marriage counseling, how honesty can produce good fruit in relationships, and one VERY important key to a successful relationship.  - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up sisters and friends welcome back to the podcast I am so excited because today we have real life sisters and friends and my mom on they've obviously been on with us good a few times and given so much good advice but today I think you're going to get a little bit more perspective on our relationship, we're gonna talk about fun stories. Y'all, I keep putting myself in these really awkward positions bringing on people who know me way too well to this podcast. So it's gonna be so fun. Welcome to the show, Bella and Kasewag.

Hey, hey. This our first time together. Together. What a trio, y'all. Well, no, we did it all for the COVID. Oh, we did. We did, yeah. We blocked that out of our memory.

And now, blocked. 2020's blocked for our memory. Well, we were just kind of laughing because Bella's sitting here and she has a new puppy. You want to feel about your little puppy puppy? Yeah, so we got a new puppy yesterday and she's so sweet and so colorally, but she has been quite the Hattled

If Ella just gets a call her to the hassle because it's like we got her and like right We got her we brought her home and she just throws up everywhere all over the rug And Jacob was like, did we pick the sick dog? I was like, no. This is a dog scary. I feel like it's in here and she's all tired. She's a dog. And I'm like, Bella, I have not slept in much.

Almost a year. And I was like, wake up girl. But hey, no judgment. I got, I've stretched my no sleeping muscles. Okay. No, I'm not. Let's never forget when Bella got the dog a Christmas And we cut we literally said Bella puded on Christmas He was rough here all day. It was rough Christmas But it was not an effort though because someone decided that

They just could not wait and they had to give it to me two days before Christmas. Okay, so how do I need it? We had to start by skinning. No, we had to start by skinning. I did not. Okay, but you decided to give it to me two days early until I was on two days of exhaustion by Christmas. Yeah, not sleeping.

Okay, so back story, Sadie was moving and we all felt bad for Bella because Bella had slept with Sadie since she was like born. They slept together in the same room. We had different rooms, we still had beds. We built a new house, we built them different rooms but Bella's was basically just like a closet because she never slept there. She always slept with Sadie and then Sadie moved, was moving away so we were like, oh, let's get Bella up. Happy because she'll have something to sleep with and all be safe. I bet you wouldn't. I did want to know.

No, she did. No, I just weren't prepared. I was not prepared. And it was like, I got it two days before Christmas. So I had two days of just not sleeping. By the time I got to Christmas, I was just worn out and ready for Christmas to be over. Yeah, she was over. I was done with Christmas.

It was like the grand. My Christmas was two days ago. I was regretting it. What year was that? 2016? Because that's not a grand. It was like, so it was either 2015 going into 2016 or 2016 going into 2017. Around the same. I think it was 2016 going in 2017 because I think I moved 2017 January of 2017.

But I remember the reason I said it's because we were going to make sure it's a say Bella Pudon on Chris was 2016. You know. I was talking about that shit. Oh God, you know. She made a picture of me. That's like, yeah, there's like a picture of her from Christmas and she's like, you're so miserable.

Every picture of me, that picture of me, that picture of me. It was not this one. I value you. Like, a couple of people on Instagram because I was like, oh, I'm going to interview a mom and a bell a day. What do you want to ask?

And somebody was like, when does Bella want to have kids? And I think we should just go ahead and say, like, you definitely need a dog to prep. No, it's not the same. I'm not gonna say that's the same because like, you're a thing. No, because like a baby, I don't know. You have, you do your body kind of prepares you

for an ad-mine. But, or even if you adopt and you have a baby, I don't know, there's something about a baby, you just looking at a baby's tears and your baby is like- I feel like I was like- baby with liking up in the night. She's your baby. It's puppy. It's like sweet, but it's also just like the annoying make overpower. I think it's true, but I also think Cobbode did prepare me for some stuff.

Really? Oh yeah. Totally. Even just a responsibility of taking care of something. Right. Yes, it's not the same as a baby because you can leave the dog at the house for a few hours and the dog is fine. You can never do it with your baby. So just like taking care of something and being responsible, but also like the sleeping thing, I think it's like yes, you love your baby so much and you're okay with getting up through the night, but just dealing with actually just being tired. Like they didn't bother me that I had to get up with honey.

I love honey. She's so sweet. I like to cuddle her, but I'm like holy cow. I have not slept in a long time I think Kaba prepared me for all the dogs And she was like oh like she normally never does this but if she does bark it just means she has to go potty I was like oh and I said if she does do that that means you have to get it with her and take get potty. I was like, I was like, I was like, and I said, if she does do that, that means you have to get it with her and take her potty because she doesn't normally do that, which I don't even know why I even told you that.

I'm gonna do that. And I was, well, it didn't really work because I was sleeping and I heard her barking and I was like, gosh, she's so annoying. She kept sleeping, kept sleeping, I woke up in the morning with diarrhea all over her head. Everywhere. And I said, that was your own fun,

because I told you, if she does, Mark, that means she's got to go. Well, y'all know my role. I will keep your babies anytime, any day, they can spend the night, how will babies sit? I'll, anything. But your dogs, you will never keep hiding.

I'm not even talking about it. I never even think to ask. I never think to ask I love like our dog but I don't like just love Dogs in general like other people's dogs even even my grand dogs Mom barely can really don't dogs sit spas when dog goes out I'm giving this fast I can put your hair Mom told me the other day she was throwing spas the bowl in the house

I can put you in her. Mom told me the other day she was throwing spas the ball in the house. I don't know how to say that. Oh my gosh. See, this is where I get this room because like, Christian always thinks I don't love cobblers much as him. And I'm like, no, I do love cobblers so much.

It's just I grew up in a household that treated dogs like dogs. You grew up in a household that treated dogs like family. Like human, human. Which our dogs were family, but like they were a dog in our family. Not like a human, like you do all this extra stuff for them. And so I have learned, I have adapted. I'm still not all the way there.

I still drink cowbo. Cowbo was starting to be more human and then when I had honey, she went straight back to dog. It was like, you almost got human status and now you're very much a dog again. Yeah, it's just true. Okay, so a lot of people want to know about first year marriage. Obviously, we've all experienced it first year marriage.

So, some was a little bit longer ago. Some were pretty, actually, you're in your first year of marriage. So, we have a current first year of marriage. Um, um, two and a half years in. So, I've just had my first year of marriage. Two and a half years in. So I've just had my first year of marriage. That's crazy. That's only two and a half years. Yes.

Doesn't it say I'd be in Christiana married forever? Yeah, I'm in a high five. I was four years into talking to someone the other day. And they were like, Louis, who did our wedding, he was like, y'all been married for 10 years. No way. No way, two years. I'm like, yeah, two and a half years.

I actually thought you were gonna say four. I thought she was gonna say like 30 and a half cone of a pool. We're seasoned. Yeah Well, we have gone through a lot of life together. I think having a baby definitely makes you like more grounded in that Um, and then and we traveled a lot and done things together started stuff Building a house like doing more adult things now. So that's true And then your first year of marriage was 20s. Wait, I'm 30. No, 30. 30.

Oh yeah, I've been married 30 years. It was just 30. It was 29 years ago. Yeah, wow. So remember. So I'm sure you do. Alright, so Mom, why don't you go ahead and start because you gave us a lot of advice going to the arm first year because you and dad's first year was It was a year. It was a member.

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did you work? Because this matters. I was 18. Yes. I was very young. And Willie was 19. So he was very young too. So neither of us had a whole lot of maturity under our balance at that point. And so I think that probably did play into it all though. Like I'm so thankful that we got married young because we grew up together and we had all these experience, all of our college memories already together. And you know, we have, I think, young, you know, young, getting married young, I don't think is an necessarily bad thing. But, I will say, the maturity level probably could have been a little higher.

Imagine mom just not being mature. And you're like mature person. Now, dad on the other hand, you know, seemed to be able to picture that, you see. I'm giving a little bit where I say we were both immature because really There was balance there. No I know I was too. Hey, that's a lesson in marriage right there. Everything becomes a wee That's right. It was a wee. We were both. That's right. Yes. No, so it was yeah There was a lot of fun, but it was really hard like we had a hard first year We fought like hats and dogs. We were both I think I guess we both have strong personalities obviously

Um, if you do anyagram will lose it eight with the seven wing. I'm a seven with an eight wing, so like, yeah, we got, we got some strong personalities going there. And yeah, that first year of marriage, it was tough. Like I said, it was fun. I think that's kind of how our life is. Like we would definitely live life with passion. Like, like, things are fun. We go hard, we play hard, but also we fight hard too, and and we do and the first year of marriage there was a lot of that and

we came from two really different up-bringings I mean I always like to say because I think this is so true it's like we had the most important part in common which was our faith like but other than that there's like nothing else that really looked the same within our families. Like our faith and hospitality. Both our families were super hospitable. We had people in their home a lot. Yeah. Very generous.

But other than that, really, you know, there was a lot of how we were raised. That was very different. So I remember telling people whenever I was younger, like my grandparents were so different. I was like, once I had my family, my grandparents don't eat meat. The other side kills. They're just for living. They're professional hunters and vegetarians, you know? Yes, they're pescatarians, you know?

And so they eat things that swim, but not things that walk or fly. So, TubeBubble always says they grow up, they are, you know, living in a neighborhood. And Pebawfield would call them yuppie because Pebawfield and Pebawfield and Pebawfield live at the end of the river. They're like, mothargrass and they're like motorgrass and like motorgrass like two

puppets sing as he doesn't see anything that walks replies and Peppa feels singers if it flies it does yeah because it does how little fishes like professional fishermen like he does like all this kind of stuff yeah that's just totally opposite and like your dad works like more of a desk job And it's like work a whole like in that way, but not really we joke these work all it But it's clean shaved all of a sudden and Peppa feel like is out in the woods all day every day Two mom and two papa probably have a trash bin where they do their trash

Both of them burns all his trash. I mean just like totally And I'm okay cooked like literally two to three meals every day. Like really good from scratch. And my mom has like two to three meals that she knows how to cook. Yeah, that's such a good food. I was just like whipping it up from scratch.

She was like, who wants to mac and cheese and some slap and jello. Yes. Spaghetti, she got that too. But actually she's been doing holy fresh. So she's very proud of her cooking skills. I told her that a day. She's getting a lot better. She told me she's cooking so bad I said well in

bite-a-saber she said yeah y'all need to get on our hello fresh yeah she's all about it how do you make these sloppy jays girl it's just me and smart he saw it's all it is it's butter on the bun everybody that's the extra tag. They're on the right. I love her slimy jays. Yeah. So they're just very opposite. They're just very opposite.

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were dirt poor. I mean y'all were like arguing over who could get a baseball card that week or a magazine. Like talk about that time. Yeah. Some of the meals that you prepared. Yeah, so the early days, you know, we were in college and like I was, I went a little bit faster because really was like trying to work and like support us

through college and but Yeah, we had we were on a very tight budget like we had all of our money like an envelope So I don't know if that's even that's not a thing anymore obviously because you don't use cash But you know like all of our money was in envelopes and they like you know It was food and it was you know each of our budget items and so like we would go to the grocery store really like literally This was one of our fights. We took a grocery store. We had, you know, each of our budget items. And so like, we would go to the bookstore really, like literally this was one of our fights. We did the grocery store. We had like, you know, three dollars left

out of our food money for the week. And like, I wanted about people magazine and dad wanted about baseball cards because he collected baseball cards. And so like, it was just a fight. Like, who gets to buy the one little thing? And dad, you know, of course, he's very persuasive. And he's like, yeah, these baseball cards,

like it's a collection, like I'm saving money. I'm saving money. I'm like, this is gonna be a lot of money someday, you know? I'm like, yeah, right. I'm like, you and dad are like me and Jacob. I know, I was about to say that. I was at the airport the other day. I was like, ooh, people magazine, Jacob was like,

what is the point? Like what is the point of reading that? That like why would you do that like wouldn't you rather spend six dollars on a t-shirt that I can sell for $20? Yes, we always say that like that now Reminder yourself like they're mad because Bill and Jake got Mary when Bill was 18 and Jake was 21. So talk about y'all, y'all are in it though, y'all are in the midst. Yeah, we're still in our first year of marriage and it's so fun and we love it and but I do see like it is a lot of just like learning how to like mess each other's different personalities especially when you come from such different families

we both come from super different families too and even just like with money and stuff like the same thing about like we were got our new puppy and Jacob was like we don't need dog bowls we have have bowls at home. Why would we need a dog bowl? We already have bowls. How we need a dog that would blanket. I'm like, we need a dog bed. We have tons of blankets, it's like fun. It's just like merging those different views,

I guess, is so fun and different. But I don't know, it's so much fun. I think. One thing I'm really proud of y'all and Jacob was talking about it the other day is like, y'all have put in the time like you really invested in pre-marriage counseling which, yeah, y'all did that so well and I know y'all like help them and advise them to go to your pre-marriage counselor and how much that helped you and then,

you know, you've actually put in the time to seek help when you need it. Go listen and it really spends time talking through the hard things. And just being able to be honest, when you're going through something that I think helps so much, we used to, when we lived right by setting and Christian, we would see them every day. It was not like you can just be in an argument, walk in and be like, oh hey, so we talked about everything and like if we were arguing, we would tell them

and they would say what they thought about it, you know, and like, I think that's so important. Just being honest with where you're at and not like keeping it all behind closed doors, you know. That is so true. So it's like so tempting to just want to keep it behind closed doors because you're embarrassed or you don't want, you don't want to be wrong

or you don't want people to think that they are like, you know, you don't want people to see them wrong or maybe they're wrong light because you understand the context of the fight better or whatever, but we have found like every time we open up about it to the right people. Yeah, like so much wisdom is brought in, like whether it's y'all or two of our best friends,

like we had like an argument where we were talking about this and the podcast didn't have it lazy, but like, we didn't argue with Clayton and Lany one time. And I was like, I was like, so uncomfortable the whole time. I was like, I don't like this is happening. But like, at the end of it, I was like, man, I'm so glad because we all got so much closer because of you. Yeah.

And yeah, just being able to humble yourself and accept those arguments and just realize that those make you stronger and they help you realize like how each other needs to be loved for the next time. Yeah learn from them. Christian and I, we like had a great start because yeah, Primordial counseling was awesome and it was so good. And you know it's funny because I was like 22 and Christian was 21, which is so young, but to our family that was older than everybody, because y'all got married at 18, and then John Link got married at 19, and everyone just

keeps getting married so young. And so I felt like I was so mature when we got married. And we had a great start. Everything was so fun. It was awesome. I moved to Auburn, lived with him there. And then when the pandemic hit, and we moved back to us to Rose, when we kind of started to see our differences Because before it was like I think we were just so blind about love. It was like Everything is awesome Everything is cool. You're part of a team and then the pandemic hit and we were like, whoa Like we just do things differently like I like to be super busy and he likes to just be more chill

And when we had all the time in the world and you got to create your whole schedule, I realized I'm like piling it in. I started college and did all this stuff. That was so crazy. And then Christians like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is our time to chill. And that's whenever we started having arguments, but man, like you said, we've come to such a great point

place and we learned so much about ourselves in that time. Now we respect each other's differences, rock with each other's differences, and I think that that's one thing that I wanted to say to people who are in their first year marriage and you're learning how to navigate being different than the person you live with. And you're learning how to navigate even living with someone. It's just respecting one another. And if you respect each other and you know,

you realize that it's up to you guys to create the home you live in. So like if you want to fun home, you're going to be fun people. If you want to have fun, go do a dance video, go outside, throw the ball, do something fun. Or if you want to have a peaceful home, then you got to create peace in the home. Turn out some worship music, have good conversation, invite people over, it's up to you guys to create that. And respecting each other and hearing each other's differences and not making the other person have to be like you or the other person not making you be like them, is such a huge thing.

Because then you can both live in the fullness of y'all together as one. And that's why I love that verse, like two are better than one for they can help each other when someone falls, or they keep each other warm. But a lot of times I think when people get married, they're just like, oh, we're one. And yes, that's true.

You are one, but you're still two people to make one. And you being who you are individually is what makes one awesome couple. You know? That takes a little bit time. When you said, good. I was just gonna say I think to just like On top of that like just understanding like what the other person needs and like maybe like why they need that

You know, I'm like I think just talking through like look. I'm not trying to be like like how you said like you like to pal And I'm like Jacob loves like go do stuff all the time and like I like to just like maybe have more time at home And just like be with us sometimes and time. And like I like to just like maybe have more time at home and just like be with us sometimes. And I think just like talking about like look like I'm not trying to be like a recluse and stay at home all the time. I just like time to spend with you to talk, you know?

That's all. It's not like anything. I'm not trying to like, frame for your style. But you know, just that's just what I like to be, you know, and so like, now that he understands that, like, we do both, you know. Right. Yeah.

What? I don't know. So, he said, like, recluse, I don't know. He said, recluse, like, I'm not trying to, did you say, I'm not trying to recluse. No, be a recluse. No, be a recluse. You can say it either way. Recluse or recluse.

I've never heard that before. I think you can say it either way. Reckless or a record. I think you can say it either way. I'm sure the people with toys are really good. The only person that worked from those, Memo K, so. Well, that's scary. I would not bet on that being right. And Memo K, for now, is the one way you might want to look it up. Look it up.

He said like Memo Joe would be like, okay. Yeah, memo kay Yeah, I don't know why I just actually think I say reckless. I think you do too. Well you also say orange orange Orange orange orange and ranch. How you say ranch? Ranch I'll say that normally That makes my house a breakfast. Is breakfast is up here? No. You said pillow. I say pillow.

I say pillow. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that.

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I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll say that. I don't know how I'll's play. I'm very, very much. I was like, I said, Jacob, was it catcher? And you were like, I catcher? I was like, I was. Okay, no, this actually got me this. So whenever you and Lani were doing like, cousins, I saw some of the comments and someone said, say, he sounds like Botog's wife.

And that's when you were doing your cousin boys. Oh, no. I was like, oh, I've got to work on that. I got to work on that. That's so scary. That's so scary. Oh my gosh. That's terrible.

Yeah, well I'm sure you're all laughing at us. We can put it each other because we probably sound country. Yeah, all of the actions. Yeah. So I want to go back to respect. Because when you said respect, I was like. For ESP, E-S-B-E-S-E-T. You can go.

I was like, I do want to highlight. I feel like a highlighter on that because I do think that's so important. Whenever you respect one another, you care. And you truly care about the other person's feelings and the other person's likes and wants and desires and dreams and all those things, then it makes a huge difference. I do think it's important. I think it's great to fight it out. I think it's important. Like you're living together. You need to like negotiate how you're going to do this life together. And you're so I think that, you know, couples that are like oh we never fight

that actually kind of scares me because I'm like there's somebody that's like actually not saying their peace in this environment because there's no way you can just totally get along all the time you know so I do think it's important to do that but you have to do it with respect and I think one thing I always think about too it's like that you know the idea of like treating others as you want to be treated to I think it's so important because like, we can, if like I say something to dad, like I sometimes have a think about, if I turn that around, if he said it, like that to me, how would I feel, you know? And if you can do that and put yourself in that position and be like, okay, how would

the sound, if he actually said what I just said to him, in the tone I just said it to him, if he said that to me, how would that make me feel and how would the sound if he actually said what I just said to him in the tone I just said it to him if he said that to me how would that make me feel and how would that how would that sound? You know, and I think sometimes we don't even think about that and and how we treat one another so true I was so sure I was he got what pastor I was I See this is how it's you get through the scenario we're just gonna bounce off each other But I love it pastor Tom said the other day when he was talking about like humbling ourselves And not being prideful and he said pride is the one disease that makes everyone sick But the person who has it and I was like, oh, that is so true It was a really good one. And especially in marriage like you know whenever you're prideful and you're like

I didn't say it like that or whatever like you're like hurting that person So yeah, it's like just takes and normally when you're saying that you do know that you said I'm like, yeah, when you're like hurting that person. So yeah. And it just takes, and normally when you're saying that, you do know that you said it. I'm like, yeah. When you're just trying to stick with it, like, no, no, I didn't. You're being sensitive. It's like, no, you're being prideful. Like, humble yourself, you know?

And man, I said that message was so good and so convicted. Thank you. That was really, I love that. I wrote that down because it is so true. It's like whenever you are prideful, you probably is when you don't know it. That's when you really have the blind spot. You know, it's actually making her well, it's not making you sick because you don't even

realize it about yourself. So yeah, I think, you know, listen to your people. That's right. And that's what your people got to be honest with you. That's why if you haven't had argument with, you know, your spouse or your family members, like, you know, you might not be able to learn. You might not be growing in some blind spots or some weak areas. So that's what's so important.

It's like, have the hard conversations, even their hard, dive in, even when you don't want to, because the next day, like, you're so much stronger. And, gosh, of course you know, I wouldn't have had arguments that we had. We would not be at the place we are now. Like, we're so healthy now. We're in such a good marriage. We know each other so well. And that would not have happened. Had we not gone through some tips here and there.

Yeah. What we're gonna say about that. I was gonna say that I think, if we actually touch on this, but if we all thought about one thing we've all learned, I think we've all learned that tone is important. Oh, that's a good thing. It's a tone.

It's a tone. Everything y'all. A tone. Yes. We talked about that when y'all were kids a good thing. It's a ton of things. We talked about that when y'all were kids a lot too. Like, I cannot handle the tone. Like, how many times does Sadie say that there's to Christian? No, I hate to Christian, but how many times do you say, watch the tone?

Watch Sadie also. Watch the tone. Yeah, I always say watch the tone. I always say, if you had a mirror, if you had a mirror, you could see. That's probably coming from watchoffers. It's like tons. It really does matter.

It's like the same thing, but you say it in a different way and in a different tone. I know. It's different. So many times I tell Jacob I'm like, if you would just calm it down, it'd say that in a nicer way, like I would accept it and be like, that's really fun. You could say that but when you say like that just It's half our arguments are about the tone seriously, and it's not just him It's me too. It's the tone. Uh-huh. Whenever we were growing up

What where is like what were some of the stuff that you had to get on to us for? I didn't know what you had to get on to me for honest I'm just exposing myself on this podcast Here some of the things um I already know what you're going to be for. I'm just exposing myself on this podcast in here. Some of the things, um, let me think. I remember, I'm like specifically, remember the time that you spank me whenever I was like 10 years old.

Yeah, I think you were like nine. No, it's like the last time I ever, I was shocking to me even, but like you sat back and I think it just shot me so much. I was a rematch, she did girl's hat. You were feeling really sassy, you were feeling yourself that day. Oh well, we were outside.

I remember that, at that Arla, old house, and you sat back and I just went, oh, what? Oh, it just popped me on the butt. And then I turned around and I said, did you just speak? You're like, yeah for that. Yeah, all that sense you need Mean to say this but he was like, I know like you've said like you're because he was telling me I need talk back to my brain And he's like, I know that like you said like your brother's talk back and I went and my sister

Oh, man, I remember like whenever I was like talk bad to you and then you you are a sitting duck in that moment Like you know, I'm about to get it. I cannot really that Take a remote to life and be like rewind 15 Where you have channeled that though. You have, no. It was like, it made you part of who you are. Like, yeah, I've channeled that. I feel like I don't remember that stuff because I do feel like there is parts of it

that as a mom you do look at and you say like, okay, this is something that needs to be like channeled and worked, but also it's part of them that's gonna make them great Yeah, yeah, well, that's a good point because I remember when I was little I was sassy and dramatic and but dramatic and like Not like drama. I was not in drama I made a drama and like just dramatic in my storytelling dramatic when I feel like I always had a band-aid director on my ankle for no reason

I thought it was cool and I had a lip to go with it like I just was dramatic in personality and then You know people like in our family like siblings when I go away from being dramatic and stuff and then I get insecure about it And then one day recently I had an epiphany Maybe it wasn't when we were on vacation and I ran the table with saying that was so dramatic and I was the most dramatic of the siblings. And I was like, yeah, you know that used to really bother me and that embarrassed me. But now I realize that is something that gave me

and with what I do and doing podcasts and doing Instagram and doing YouTube and speaking and telling stories, like that is like a gift. And you did help channel that in my life because There was a negative side of that at one point, you know where I did like always fake an injury Or I did like sass back or Sometimes embellished stories 95% true, you know and like y'all had to like definitely

Channel that but it's come to like a good place. Yeah Christian I talk about that all the time with honey and she's only one year's old But we always talk about like one of the things in her that might seem like a negative But that we can just really help her become a positive like Even just she she is like already so crazy and wild, but we're like man What a what a awesome thing like yeah, I did she's gonna do so many great things and just speaking out like all those Good things that this is gonna become even many great things and just speaking out like all those good things that this is gonna become, even though we know

in the next 15 years, it will be some hard moments. So I think that's cool. So good, yeah. Well Bella has like, she's got like a quiet stubbornness and whenever she was young she's really like, I mean she knew what she wanted to wear, what she wanted to, she had her own ideas about things, but it was very quiet and kind of subtle.

But I knew it was there kind of like under the surface, but it makes her who she is. She doesn't, she's not gonna, if you, you can't pressure her in a doing something she doesn't want to do, she won't do it. She just, she, she has an inner strength about her that, you know, as a child sometimes came out of stubbornness and she would drive me crazy because literally like she this girl would not wear shoes like we would I'd put her shoes on we get where we go in her shoes would be off and then the thrown in the back and I'd have to go find them and put it back in again like she's had forget the eyeliner face when everybody told her

I didn't look good. No, when she... It's like, 7th grade grade. She started wearing makeup and she did lip with eyeliner. And it was so sad. And all her friends were doing liquid eyeliner. I know. I was not pulling it out of nowhere. I was seeing it. You were saying it.

But I was trying to copy. And Bella is like, our family is honest there. Like, if you're out on it's bad, we'll say,'ll say like, well, can you use the help on your eyeliner? But Bella would not accept any help. We're just like, all right. It was like, okay, so when you wear liquid eyeliner, like this is perfect. It has to be perfect.

But it also has to touch the lashes. Okay, that's, that's where the liquid eyeliner goes right above the lash line But not above it like almost on the lash line Bella's liquid eyeliner was right like above the lash line So it wasn't connected to the lashes it was just a squiggly line Close to mid-highland One time a guy all the way and the other side would like stop right there. You never did the wing, like the angle,

it was just like a trail. I still can't get it. You don't need a liner. You don't, you're out there too. Yeah, I don't need it. Well, I was gonna say, you said you were dramatic and I was going to say before mom even said I was silently stubborn, my silent dramaticness

when I ran away. Oh yeah, yeah. Bella was just a minute. Bella's our only child that ran away. Bella ran away. I ran it, I only meant total of 100 feet. Yeah. Bella ran away from home one time and it was very dramatic.

Yes. Why didn't I even know why you ran away? But you were like, I'm leaving. You don't remember? No. And after the ping pong battle at the door because you were wrapping that Chris's presence and you all went and told me why you locked me out of the room that was connected that was the same day I think that's it so Bella gets mad

all the time and I'm out of it to the front yard and say she's not coming back and so I at the time was reading Twilight which I had only made it 10 pages in and I had been reading it for a long time. And I was like long to be on a dinner too. And yeah I was running for Twilight. And I was like Bella come back and she wouldn't come back so I went outside with her and took a chair. A long chair and the Twilight Blush. And some lemonade and then a sip of cup. That was really sweet. I used to have an actual picture of that but I have a mental picture and it's so sweet. That's just your boyfriend right there with her.

When she was run away from home, yeah, until Bella was ready to come here. My plan was only really to make it to Uncle Bill and it curls, but I really, I couldn't get there. I thought I'd walked so far. I was in the driveway. I was so full of that.

I thought it wasn't like super long. But Bella really rarely got in trouble. I think she had. Will was only 10 minutes older than her. And like, he got in trouble so much. Bella saw that and was like, I'm just going to fly under the radar. We and Jell-Aid were like trouble together.

We were so annoying to each other. Actually, in my next message app coming up, I'm talking about one Jell-Aid used to go, I'm not touching you talking about one job like you said I'm not touching you I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. It's just like Well, you see the same thing. Yeah, well you see the same thing like just close He wouldn't even say I'm not touching you. Just do the same thing. Yeah, that's the worst like because then Then you turn around in the car and then he'd be like around in the car and then he'd be like, I don't like, are you kidding? Are you kidding me? Oh man. Okay, before we end the podcast, we gotta talk about body image because a lot of people

sent in questions about body image and you've walked with us on body image, you've also walked through your own self-abody image and I think two mama, the goat, has some great advice that she told you one time about body image. Well, I don't know. This wasn't specifically body image, but this was just something that I think really shifted my perspective. And I was like middle school. And I'll just never forget it. Like I remember her saying it, and it really impacted me. And I think it helped me a lot, honestly, to not struggle as much.

I mean, of course, I think every woman girl struggles with their looks, appearance, everything, but at some point, but I was like middle school, I just started kind of like, we're in makeup and getting very much into like, how I looked and like- Are you going to look with eyeliner? Oh, prop, not liquid, that wasn't, but definitely I had to have the like pink, like shiny pink lipstick, the powder compact, you know, all the things in my my purse like carrying it to every class, you know, all that. It's compact, compact powder.

Okay, yeah, you know. One thing about the eyeliner that I think I should have said was that I wore the eyeliner one day for school pictures. And my friend, not so much friend in class, was a boy and Layne know who to be and said, what is wrong with your eyes? And he said, why are you wearing this? And he said something like, he told me that looks stupid basically. And I never wore a lemon can. That's awesome.

That's awesome. Well, and on your stuff. Okay, so yes, it was definitely that phase. The hair had to be just bright. Everything had to be perfect before I would go out. And so we were on like a road trip and we stopped at a gas station and I needed to go the bathroom, but I wouldn't go in because I wasn't like ready. And I'm like, sitting in the car, I was like, no, I can't go in.

I don't have my lipstick on and my hair done or whatever. And my mom looked at me and she was like, if you think other people are thinking that much about you, then you are sadly mistaken. Like no one's thinking about you. No one's looking at you. No one's noticing you. And it was just like the stupidity for me.

It really was, because thinking of like, you know what, it's so true. Like everybody's worried about their own stuff. Nobody's really looking at you that closely. I mean, I got in Vizelon yesterday or you notice in my I don't think you told me out it looked for yes, and my teeth are really sore today But if you My mouth is so like all torn up, but where to go? Thank you in a Vizelon. I know

So which I mean, you know It's it's I guess it's one of this things, it's like you get older and your mouth starts moving and I'm like, okay, I should I get braces? I don't know if I can do the braces thing at this age, even though I'm our people, do hey, but I don't know if I can do the braces, so I'm going with the Vizzelon. We'll see all that works. But anyway, I just remember that in thinking like, you know, I am thinking way too much about myself. And so like, sometimes whenever we talk about like body image and stuff like that, and it's like, this is like, we talk about how it being like a insecure thing and we're very, but actually we're really like, it's actually kind of a thing where we're thinking

too much about yourself. Not that you're not thinking enough about you're actually thinking too much about yourself. We're spending too much time on all the little things about yourself that nobody else even notices or cares about or is worried about. They're worried about their own whatever you like or whatever. And so I think that that really did shift it and really had an impact on me. And so, you know, I think like I said, everyone struggle does it to some extent. I mean, you're picking out your flaws to some extent

But I do think every time I just have that memory in my head and like you know, I'm really thinking too much about myself Yeah, never do that's true. Uh-huh. So you want to go ahead? someone Sent in a question today and they said how do I make myself think that I'm beautiful? And I think that, you know, for a long time, I probably thought like that too, like the way she formed that question, like how do I make myself beautiful? And how do I make myself was like,

buying all the skin products, or getting all the latest makeup, or buying cute clothes, or working out, or whatever it was, like to make myself think I'm beautiful, but I think that you have to read and find your definition of beauty, or ask ask yourself what is beautiful, you know? And I think when you have this idea in your mind that beautiful is a certain size or a certain weight on the scale or it's a certain makeup look that you're

going for or whatever it is, a certain hair style, then you're never going to be beautiful, confident in that beauty because that beauty is always changing because there's always going to be someone who did it better. The next day is a nutrient, but whenever you redefine beauty to what beauty actually is and for me, the beauty is being made in the image of God. Yeah, I mean, what I have inside of me is so original and unique to the world that if I don't be me, no one gets to see this beautiful side of God, you know that he's put in me. And so the more confident I have become in the image that I'm created in, that has really nothing to do with body image.

It has more to do with like the actual image and personality that I have. I think the more beautiful you become and confidence is beautiful. Like joy is absolutely beautiful when someone's peaceful and loving, that is beautiful. Like joy is absolutely beautiful. When someone's peaceful and loving, that is stunning. Like some of the most beautiful people just leave through their personality, you know? And so really just redefine like, what is beauty?

It's not this image that you're not gonna obtain. It's the image that's already in you. That's right. It's good. Memal Joe used to always say, pretty is, is pretty does. Yeah. She said that her mom used to say that to her, and she said that to my mom, and my mom said it to me, and I said it to y'all, you know, like, what is beautiful is coming out from

the inside. It's not what is what you see on the outside. Yeah. One thing too, I remember when you were little, and you act in bad behavior or whatever, I'd say, well, don't act ugly. You know, when I hadn't ever thought about that, certainly what that meant or whatever. But now that look at it, you know, we'd say like, oh, you're acting ugly. Oh, she's doing it or whatever.

It's like the idea that was like, what ugly is not on the outside? It's how you know what kind of attitude, how you act or whatever. And what's pretty is the same. It's what's on the inside. It's beautiful is what's coming in from out from inside. And of course we live in this world and we of course I got gray hairs that I cover with hair color and you know I want to look nice and I want to be present in a little bed.

I don't want to spend all my time thinking about that. I don't want to waste my life thinking about what I look like or thinking about something that is just going gonna fade away. You know, I want to spend my life thinking about other people and serving and and living the life that God calls for me not worried about what I look like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think one practical thing too is like I know me and say you have both gone through this and like the past years and I'm sure mom when she was younger but like I think as a woman like we go through like seasons and like whether it's our fault or not of like different maybe different sizes or different way and

like we do fluctuate like we're not always gonna be the same but I think sometimes like when we are maybe like heavier than we usually are, we get so focused like, I am this way or whatever, and like this is me, but like we don't realize like this is like fleeting. Like we won't, like this isn't forever, and I think sometimes I'm like, oh, why am I like this, do do do do,

what am I gonna do, you know? And it's like this is just like a season, like I'm just because I've gained a couple pounds right now and doesn't mean this is forever. Doesn't mean it has anything to do with me and who I am gained a couple pounds right now. Doesn't mean this is forever. Doesn't mean it has anything to do with me and who I am. This is fleeting. I think that's something we can practically think about. Sometimes even right now, I'm like,

oh, sometimes I'm just like, no, chill. It's not forever. This is just a season. That's true. Obviously, we have to watch ourselves from being unhealthy, but also we can just notice that sometimes it's just for a season. And sometimes you just, I don't have things to change, you know?

I think whenever I used to have a lot of acne and I was so stressed out, this seasonal thing, I was just like, what can I do? I got to fix it, I got to fix it. That's the only thing that I noticed when I looked in the mirror. I thought about it when I was like so stressed out. Kind of like this seasonal thing. I was just like, what can I do? I got to fix it. I got to fix it. That's the only thing that I noticed when I looked in the mirror. I thought about it when I was talking to people. I would think that they're looking at it.

Of course they're not. But I remember one time, mom, you're like, stop buying products. No more masks. No more facials. Just stop. And I was like, no, you don't understand because of a stop. And it's going to like, it's going to get worse. And you're like, no, you're making it worse

because of how much you're stressing and how much you're trying to fix it. And so a stop to start using on your stuff, nature-medic, they do. And it cleared up, fixed. And I was like, well, if we can do that with food too, like the more you think about it, the more it's consuming your mind

and what you think about it's like stress to fix it. You know? Stress to fix your way, you're aggr- me everything, you know? The more we stress, we're actually making it worse for ourselves, you know? Totally. I think that like you said, you have great hairs you cover up and you want to, you still have a vis line and you're doing things to be beautiful and like me too, like I love like clothes.

Like that's something that like actually like to express myself and I like I love like clothes. Like that's something that like actually like to express myself and I like to buy cute clothes. I like to get up and do my makeup and the day I know a lot of girls don't like it. I actually do. I think it's fun. I like to fix my hair. I like to you know see what's trendy and all that.

That's not a bad thing, but if that's my priority or that's what I, that's an idol in my life that I find any kind of contentment is. So that's whenever I think it gets unhealthy, but when I'm prioritizing who I actually am all the other things become fine It's like oh man like now I get to try out the skincare liner And now I get to like buy these clothes and I don't care if it's on turn or not because I think it's cute and like When I feel beautiful on the inside, then like beauty shines on the outside, but there have been times where I might have looked beautiful on the outside,

but I just didn't feel it at all on the inside because that was my priority. And that's what I talk about whenever I used to model. And I was like walking the runway and I just did not feel beautiful at all because the inside of me was hurting or the inside of me wasn't in a good spot. And so man, you can be walking in a runway

and not feel like you're beautiful in New York or you can be, man, chilling out with your friends and feel beautiful because it's who you are. Yeah. I think that's a good thing to note. You know, you're not gonna get to a place in life that you're gonna say, like, that would make me feel beautiful. You have to get to the place in life

within yourself that just is like, I am who I am and I'm content with that. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Well good conversation y'all. Snap, snap, snap. Good stuff. Well guys, I hope that you enjoyed listening to this conversation. These are conversations we have all the time really We we talk a lot which really are best friends my mom and Bella are two of my best friends in life And I think that is a gift and a great thing. They're the two people I see pretty much every single day And it's fun to get to talk and let y'all listen in. I hope y'all learn some stuff And just know like even that first year marriage stuff. Maybe you're not married yet Maybe you're in college, but hey, you got some roommates and that all that advice

Yeah, maybe you're in college, but hey, you got some roommates and all that advice applies so much to just relationships in general. Then you respect people when you honor people, when you make things fun. Life is just more fun. People will feel more love. And so take it at this advice, run with it, and just know you got some sisters and friends. Cheers and you on. you